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[Asus Transformer TF700] TheKraken:
You mean like this:

EXCEPT, the Nexus 10 does not have a full size USB socket, only a Micro-USB socket, so the idea is moot.

As mentioned previously, you'd also need a Micro USB - USB OTG cable
[Asus Transformer TF700] MentaLrz:
I'll be getting one. I was going to get the Nexus 7 but the screen was too small for me to regard it as a tablet. The 10 is perfecto.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
You need to add one of these...

http://www.amazon.com/Zuweiyu-Femal...556101&sr=8-9&keywords=usb+to+micro-usb+cable
[Asus Transformer TF700] Vertron:
Exactly what I was looking for, but micro usb. Still might work if we can find a tiny usb to micro usb converter.

Unfortunately using a cable is no good as the idea of it is having it in the device without it taking much space.
[Asus Transformer TF700] RussellEstridge25:
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[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
This looks cool...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...words&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pe-_-NA-_-NA
[Asus Transformer TF700] Maeltne:
I refuse to have anything stick out of the side of a mobile device.

I really like the SD card options of the ASUS tablets (in the keyboard dock). That would be a great addition to the Nexus device; something that bluetooth keyboards just can't do.

I'm still debating; but sitting strongly on the "wait till the next asus" side of the fence.
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
i agree with this. especially if you store movies on your card. who wants to have to have a cable connected just to watch movies.
[Asus Transformer TF700] RussellEstridge25:
Are you guys serious?!?! Oh boohoo! I have to have a tiny little cable dangling off to the side to watch movies...... cause a dvd player would be much better. PEOPLE!! Wake up and stop being so picky! I don't care what any of you say, it would still be convenient as hell. Ya whip out the smallest cord and storage device known to man, and watch all your movies... no biggie.
[Asus Transformer TF700] samsonite727:
Hey

This is my first post and I thought I would contribute with a picture of a micro usb sd card reader.

I can't post any link now due it being my first post but just type the following in ebay.com and you will get the result to the reader

OTG Samsung S2 I9220 I9250 I9100 S3 I9300 Micro USB

Hopefully, this would work on the N10
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
ok, so lets say you are on the train. you want to watch a movie thats on your thumb drive. you are sitting (or maybe even standing) there with the cord dangling, while people pass you by and accidently pull it out. Not to mention, you have your tablet in a case that allows you to hold it with one hand. Now you also have to worry about that cord hanging. Now matter what, the sd slot is more convenient than a cord.

you think having to whip something out as opposed to not whipping something out, is more convenient?

besides, who want to carry the cord and the storage device with them, when they have the convenience of not having to carry it?
[Asus Transformer TF700] RussellEstridge25:
I don't ride trains, i wouldn't be pulling my tablet out in an area that people can run into it?? I just wouldn't trust it in that crowded of an area. And i mean really, why can't you hold it and tuck it in the case or back behind the tablet. But personally, i won't be worried about it dangling, cause if your that worried about the cord getting knocked around, why are you holding a 500.00 tablet with one hand?
[Asus Transformer TF700] rikkoko:
I get what you're saying, and sure it isn't much of a big deal, but an SD card slot is so basic... I'm still astounded that there isn't one on this tablet. :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
32 GB (or even 16GB) may be fine depending on where you are and what you're doing. For commuting and stuff around where you live it's not an issue swapping video and audio files (assuming the IO's as fast as the Note). Once you've watched a movie or TV show there's not really a reason to keep it around. Around town and traveling in major cities you do usually have the Wi-Fi option for streaming (or swapping) also. Where it's an issue is things like long car trips, long plane flights, and traveling overseas where Wi-Fi's not always available and free. That last category is where I see the extensions we're talking about coming in to play.
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
because the case you might be using is made that way.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Keion:
GFLOPS!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] B00T_Sp0rk:
Whelp, you've successfully pulled me from the depths of lurking to comment on this one.

I can deeply sympathize with the eternal quest to always wear the best specs on your sleeve, but unless you've got Romney-style pockets it's a loosing battle. The way I see it, you should be asking yourself one question: In five years, when the SoCs in both of these devices are comically outdated, which device would you be more likely to find a casual use for? Yeah, that two geebees of ram and A15 architecture are tempting, but when it comes down to it this device is only an incremental update over our TF700s. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there are any apps that our tablets chugg on that this thing is going to scream with. Sure, the Nexus might be a slightly more future proof but in all reality they're going to expire in terms of usability with the newest software pretty damn near the same. The expansion options in the TF700 may seem trivial in comparison to the performance gains in the Nexus right now, but when both of these things are obsolete I'm going to be glad I have a full usb port when this thing lives permanently tethered to my tv or strapped to the back of my headrest in my car and I want to shuffle media content around on the fly. To be honest I would probably pick up the Nexus if I didn't already own a tablet, but in the long run this thing does not seem to be enough to make me want to ditch my Infinity and take a hit on the resale price, and if I ever want to use an older device in a few years for a dedicated purpose I think I'll be glad I kept my Infinity.

Oh, and the Infinity has sex appeal. But different strokes, I suppose.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Did anyone hear any official news on a keyboard dock?

Unless a keyboard dock option is available, this really is not even a true competitor to the TF700.

Add to that the lack of a MicroSD slot and there is no way that I would replace my extremely versatile TF700 with a N10! I don't believe that the screen resolution increase will even be noticeable to be honest (unless you have superman-type vision) and speed isn't an issue with my TF700, so I don't see the benefits of the N10 over the TF700 - actually, I just see disadvantages.
[Asus Transformer TF700] dknotty:
No comments about file transfer using NFC?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Diogenes5:
Its not convenient thats the thing ... Having the dongle dangle off adds something that can damage the device even more if its dropped. Tablets are also suppose to make our lives easier. If i have to lug things around to enjoy my tablet to its fullest, then I might as well use my ultrabook from work (I lug around the miuse and power adapter.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
To be honest, my Nexus 7 has NFC as well and I *never* use it...
[Asus Transformer TF700] dknotty:
Well if you have say an S3 with a 64gb microSD card then technically you could transfer files, though not sure what NFC speeds are like or how that'd work in practise.
[Asus Transformer TF700] RussellEstridge25:
yes it would be nice to have an external memory slot but you proved some of my points in your post. It is future proof!! The screen isn't the selling point here but it does give room for growing with apps even though apps are not the only reason why is that nice of a screen would be nice to have. I know some of you bought this tablet because of the doc, well I didn't. I kept thinking to myself if I wanted a keyboard attached to my tablet I would buy a laptop! and if I really want a keyboard attached to it I can get 1 for about half the price of the doc that you bought. yeah it doesn't add all the features your doc does but from what I've read around the forums it's been causing problems as well but that's not the point. ever since I bought this tablet I've been disappointed the quality sucks, the support sucks, the bootloader sucks, the speed sucks, did I mention the quality sucks? I understand most of you want the internal memory as do I but I can deal with that for an awesome device.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Snah001:
Better sell your TF700 and buy a hannspad.

These hate posts are for sure totally not usefull.

Objective? No. Reasonable? No

Why you bought it at the first place? Didn't want the dock but (proven) more than 80% of TF700 buyers buy it BECAUSE of the dock.

So sell your TF700 and move on with your life.

Suits you better.
[Asus Transformer TF700] SRCP:
No microsd no buy. Same reason I'm not buying the One X + (that and the battery not being removable). I really wanted the One X and now the One X plus because my Inspire has been an amazing phone, built like a brick, I'm really happy with HTC but I really wanted removable storage so no buy.

Anyway, I don't need such a high res on a tablet, the tf700's res is quite enough for me, heck the prime's was enough for me. This tablet does everything I need it to do.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
I'm sorry, but the whole "if I wanted a keyboard attached to my tablet I would buy a laptop" statement is getting old... Here's why:

1) A laptop does not have a touchscreen.

2) A laptop does not allow said touchscreen to be removed from the keyboard with the flip of a switch.

3) A laptop does not have an extra battery in it's keyboard, which charges said touchscreen.

4) A laptop is not as thin as a TF700 with keyboard dock

5) A laptop is not as light as a TF700 with keyboard dock

6) A laptop does not last nearly as long on battery as a TF700 with keyboard dock.

7) A laptop does not run the hundreds of thousands free or inexpensive Android apps.

8) A laptop is not an instant-on device, such as a TF700 with keyboard dock.

etc, etc....

The TF700+keyboard dock is *nothing* like a laptop - it's much more convenient. If I wanted a laptop, I would have bought a laptop. That is not what I wanted. I wanted a tablet that I could dock if I wanted/needed a hardware keyboard - there is a huge difference between the two.

Then why did you keep it instead of returning it?? If someone is *so* obviously unhappy with a device they just purchased, why would they not just return it? I just don't understand it. Instead you think it's wiser to keep it and just keep complaining about it? Make no sense at all.
[Asus Transformer TF700] RussellEstridge25:
Umm... I am returning it. Im on my second one.. I still have about 25 days left to return this one.

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Why are you on this thread if you.dont want a nexus10
[Asus Transformer TF700] adampdx:
I signed up for pre-order. Pretty sure I'm jumping ship. I was waiting for the final word on the micro HDMI.
[Asus Transformer TF700] noobwow:
no mircoSD? no way'

with the CleanRom 2.3

I am happy with my TF700
[Asus Transformer TF700] wctaylor79:
bit the bullet and unlocked my 700.. been debating the nexus 10.. just too many positive options with 700 with the dock. yes nexus can use several different keyboards.. yes has 2 gig ram.. but the versatility of 700 won in my book. stock 700 would be a hard sell but I like to tinker and flash custom stuff so not worried about performance or updates.. nexus is awesome looking device but I like the metal backing and the dock.. will certainly follow the nexus.. but from my 700.. The screen., meh. I personally wouldn't see the difference.. now this time next year.. probably hop on the nexus 10 train when the next one comes around .. my 2 cents.. :)

edit. I know for one that loves to tinker.. nexus is best.. but with unlocked I can still do what I like to do.. :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] humdrum2009:
On a side note the Asus windows 8 tablet flies like the wind

Seems more responsive than the 700.

Tried it at worst buy lol.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Biohazard0289:
I decided to return my TF700 today, and await the Nexus 10 release. Sure, some people are saying its "ugly" but it's a beast internally.

I don't use the keyboard dock, nor do I really care to own one. I have a laptop to do any content creation, which I don't do on the go anyway. I'll be using it as a pure consumption device around the house, and it seems like a better fit for me. I even plan to pick up the 16GB model and save a few dollars.

That said, anyone comparing the two devices "Apples to Apples" is just wrong. They appeal to two VERY different types of users, and in my opinion don't even really fall into the same category other than "Android Tablets". The TF700 isn't a bad tablet, and overall I enjoyed using it (CleanROM 2.3 + Data2SD changed my life). No reason for everyone to bash it, it may be the most versatile Android Tablet around for some time and it keeps getting better.
[Asus Transformer TF700] hit173:
From the looks of it this bad boy is probably getting it's own keyboard witch would make me sell my infinity. But at this point I'll probably won't jump ship to the n10. Although, it is tempting since I'm a electronic junky and I love my devices running smooth and that's exactly what the n10 does and with better resolution.
[Asus Transformer TF700] SRCP:
Just out of curiosity, what are the issues with the tf700 that would make some of you want to trade it? I have mine and I can't really see anything. Maybe it's me, I still have my Inspire phone and the only reason I want to upgrade is because I'm having trouble playing certain high res videos (they stutter, or am I doing something wrong?) and the 8 GBs of mem.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Diogenes5:
The terrible i/o and mediocre battery life. Tegra 3 was the first to market with a quadcore cpu but it had to do so on a 40mm process. The infinity performed worse than the first gen ipad and transformer at first because the i/o perforamnce was so bad. Even on speedrom 2.3, without mount2sd, the damn thing stutters browsing the internet which is unacceptable really.

The battery life is pretty mediocre too. The Ipad3 doubled the battery in order to power the CPU and screen. Asus just basically spent all of its time fixing the transformer prime's connectivity issues and slapped in an HD screen. They should've increased battery size and doubled the ram to fit the new screen.

However, after xda modding, the tablet runs more than fine for me. I am jealous of my soon-to-be Nexus 10 comrades for getting such a great device when I had to spend 2 infuriating months trying to fix my infinity. However, my infinity does what I want it too now and should last me until Samsung releases the Galaxy Note 10 HD. I want to get the nexus too, but I know Samsung will use what it learns from the nexus to power its next-gen tablets which will definitely all have micro sd and quad-core cpu's.
[Asus Transformer TF700] RussellEstridge25:
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/ne.../?icid=eng_art_photo_bck&title=Latest+Stories

For all of you debating... And remember the dpi can be changed to tablet mode. Also rumors of a 64gb model?!?!
[Asus Transformer TF700] MegaPrime33:
I just got my Asus recently, so I don't have any plans on trading up any time soon. After the latest firmware, mine was hanging up a lot on most apps, but it's actually gotten way better recently. Movies, comics, games, and music have all been playing smoothly, as well as going in and out of apps and system settings. I'm happy for now.
[Asus Transformer TF700] skipped:
I was going to buy the Nexus 10, until I realized two things:

1- The aspect ratio is 16:9... that sucks.. Even the Nook HD+ (9inch) is wider (because it has 3:2 aspect ratio)

2- It appears that there is no optically-bonded display.. so it will be useless outdoors..
[Asus Transformer TF700] Vertron:
16:10 actually.
[Asus Transformer TF700] RussellEstridge25:
do you actually believe that there's not gonna be any way possible to change that?
[Asus Transformer TF700] *B*:
Hi

I'm just about to get a tablet...so was looking about and settled on the T700 till news broke on the nexus 10, now I'm torn as I prefer the aesthetics of the asus, an well, just prefer the asus but the specs of the nexus are sweet. I'm going to be a casual user with a little modding fun so having the dock is not an issue, but it not having memory card slot is, as I am often over moth without net connection so need to be able to load up for the long haul.

So I guess my questions are............

When will the samsung own version get released and is it likely to have the card slot, and will it be at a similar price point to the nexus?

What sort of price point/specs will the next evolution for asus be and will the release date be around the end of this year?

thanks for any help

b
[Asus Transformer TF700] Diogenes5:
Next year around summer asus should have transformer successor. They are focused on padfone and nexus 7 in short term. I do expect a samsung note 10 hd within 6 months with s pen, quad core, and micro sd slot. They will do the same thing they did with the galaxy nexus from last year: leverage the information learned to make an even better device they can make money on (the galaxy s3 in relation to the galaxy nexus). Nexus 10 will help drive down costs of fabbing the cpu, ram, screen, etc. The good thing about the nexus 10 is that it will drive mass adoption of tablets and help the tablet market which helps everyone that owns a droid tablet.

I am envious of soon-to-be nexus 10 owners but my infinity does everything I want it too now and has the dock and micro sd slot.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
The next Samsung tablet is supposed to be a 7" Note. With the N10 out, and Google subsidizing it, it doesn't make sense for Samsung to offer a more expensive version of the same tablet. The 16GB dual core OMAP G-Tab 2 is still selling for $349. I also don't think Google would be too pleased if Samsung offered a N10 equivalent for the same price with more features even if Samsung could. The N4 is practically the same phone as the Optimus G and Google's version is undercutting LG's by a wide margin. Which unsubsidized phone do you see people buying? If Samsung were smart they'd get out of the "basic" Android tablet market with its cut throat prices and low margins and focus on "Note" tablets. A 5250-based Note 10.1 II with an active digitizer and a 2560x1600 display would be on my shopping list.

It's going to be difficult for Asus or anyone else to build a 10.1" device equivalent to the N10 and make a decent margin. They added a bunch of features to the TF700 and sold it for the same price as the Prime so they've already cut their margins once. One of the reason Samsung's margins are so high is they build a lot of their own components rather than having to turn to third parties like Asus and others do. With higher costs I don’t see how Asus (or others) can effectively compete and make it worth their while. With sales of $399+ Android tablets having been so disappointing, and now Google setting specs and pricing ($199/$399), I think you'll see a lot of current Android tablet makers call it a day and focus their tablets efforts on W8 where the playing field is a little less rugged with more volume potential.

All just my opinion of course. ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Thats OK:
Barry,

I think pricing is the key.

These "upper" level tablets are too much money for what you get in just about all variations.

I remember those HP Touchpads selling at 100 dollar per unit loss when they were discontinued.

I still have a hard time believing it was costing HP 300 bucks per unit to build.

I wonder what the real margins are for these devices?

For the money paid say 400-600 dollars these things should be re-engineered at every version.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
People see the iFixit teardowns and look at a $200-300 cost of materials and think the manufacturers are printing money. There's a lot more cost in developing and selling a product that needs to be considered. Why do you think Asus chose the suppliers they did for the Prime/TF700 internals? With the selling price set competitively you pick up your margin by building your product less expensively. This is from a previous conversation.

Not really. All those tear downs that estimate the cost of goods used to build a device don't take in to account all the ancillary costs. If the Note's selling for $499 at Best Buy, they're probably paying about $415-425 for it with an incentive that reduces that based on volume. You have to factor in R&D, design and fabrication, tooling for the assembly line that produces them, X% (parts and whole units) end up in the garbage failing QC which drives single unit cost higher, packaging materials have to factored in, as does shipping, support, returns, and warranty repairs. Samsung sold 750K G-Tab 10.1's in the U.S. and spent several million dollars promoting them. So advertising, promotion, collateral development (online and traditional) as well as those $200K+ introductory soirées that Samsung holds are additional costs. By the time you factor all that in and average it out per unit built you can see that the COG is just the tip of the iceberg.

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[Asus Transformer TF700] Thats OK:
Hmmmm...

Right about 300 dollars for BOM and construction.

It's kind of no wonder the brand corporations don't advertise a lot.

Looks like the screen\digitizer cost is pretty high right now.

Interesting!
[Asus Transformer TF700] trublu:
The lack of extSDcard in the N10 is a letdown but I think I'm still going to make the switch. I have a 64gb card in my TF700 but copying to it is so damn slow I have to copy to the internal card sdcard first.
[Asus Transformer TF700] skipped:
I thought that too, but it is confirmed to be 16:9..

Here is the proof:

http://www.google.com/nexus/10/

Look at the specs in "Movies"

EDIT: I dont know what to believe.. I measured some pictures of N10, and it gives me an exact 1.6 aspect ratio (16:10).. But the specs in google's web are clear about 16:9.
[Asus Transformer TF700] hasenbein1966:
You guys are REALLY bad in math, aren't you?

On the Google page and everywhere WHAT is printed?

Right - 2560 x 1600 resolution!

And what's 2560 divided by 1600?

Riiiiiiiight! Fine! *pat* 1.6!

And that's - tadaaaaa! the same as..... *snare roll* .... 16 divided by 10!

:eek::p:cyclops:
[Asus Transformer TF700] i9100g user:
I think there are onscreen buttons which reduce the pixels from the screen don't know exact number though but could be cause of 16:9 ratio

sent from my gs3 GT i 9300

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[Asus Transformer TF700] hasenbein1966:
Argh... you guys can make one crazy...

Did you ever have a smartphone or tablet?? On EVERY device there is a status bar or a bar with soft keys! And of course that doesn't reduce the screen resolution! (And when you rotate the device, then - magic - the soft keys are on the other side!) Then you would have to call EVERY tablet with Honeycomb, ICS or JB "16:9"!

:cyclops::crying::confused:

sent from my gs3 GT i 9300

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[Asus Transformer TF700] skipped:
So its 16:10.. A little bit confusing.. And what about the screen, is it laminated (optically-bonded)? Or it has air gaps? I think this is key for outdoor usage. Anybody knows?

EDIT: I did some research and found that, according to rumors (beforme the N10 was announced), The Nexus 10 will have an outdoor brightness mode of as much as 600 cd/m2 luminance that enables viewing in bright ambient lighting. I hope this is true.