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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
No issues here while plugged in also. I use it alot plugged in also. Is there a way, through stock settings, to recalibrate touch or S Pen?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
May be you are from US and hence the difference in the main power out makes your device more confortable
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I found it. It's electromagnetic interference caused by an improper earth connection (ground). The user and their finger touching the screen are part of the ground. Since all the charger's are the same it's either something to do with with environmental issues and the user or something to do with the power source not providing sufficient grounding. I have no idea why it affects some people and not others. Try rubber boots. ;) Here's the summary. The PDF has the long version with enough detail to make you want to poke your eyes out.

Projected-capacitance touchscreens commonly used in today’s portable devices are vulnerable to electromagnetic interference. The interference voltages are coupled capacitively from sources that are both internal and external to the touchscreen device. These interference voltages cause charge movement within the touchscreen, which may be confused with the measured charge movement due to a finger touch on the screen. Effective design and optimization of the touchscreen system depends on understanding the interference coupling paths and mitigating or compensating for them as much as possible. Interference coupling paths involve parasitic effects, such as transformer winding capacitance and finger-device capacitance. Proper modeling of these effects yields a detailed understanding of the sources and magnitudes of the interference. For many portable devices, the battery charger can be a key source of touchscreen interference. The charger interference coupling circuit is closed through the capacitance of the operator’s finger on the touchscreen. The quality of the charger’s internal shielding design and the presence of a proper charger earth connection are key factors affecting charger interference coupling.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/66yy4mtnlx09imb/Minimizing-Touchscreen-EMI.pdf​
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dale_cooper:
Picked up a note today, shady craiglist deal lol....

15 minute impressions - I'm still syncing my play account and installing apps.... there is noooo doubt definite homescreen lag while this is going on. Hpefully it goes away when the apps are done installing, its interesting that nearly every review online mentions the homescreen lag yet the people on this forum see none - I don't get that. edit - seems ok now.

Split keyboard is awesome. Weight of the device is awesome - I will take plastic all..day...long... to achieve a light device (at least in a tablet). S-pen is awesome. Peel - wow, can't believe it automatically recognized all my devices, incredible app, not sure how much I'll use it but really neat.

sidenote - Its disgusting that there are such few tablet specific apps for android; I've been on my nexus 7 so I guess I hadn't been realizing it.... but man facebook is terrible on the 10" screen.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mlhdk:
I not into root, I only run stock rom. I love my note 10.1 - but I just tried ipad3 today for the first time, and I need to say....... Samsung is far away from the same smooth! My god I thought it was a hype, but note 10.1 is Miles from the same smooth as ipad3. I know we have more "freedom" but what does that count when you table is laggy and slow? I have android devices for several years, but now I consider to change. I know Google released nexus 10.1 with jb 4.2..... But what does it help us Samsung users?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
I never notice any lag while installing apps from palystore thats one of the strong points of note it can take whatever you can throw it at and more i have not noticed any lag till date when the applications are being installed and they are installed and uninstalled at a lightning speed like a an Red Bull F1 car with the driver on red bull
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ron2k_1:
I think many people emphasize the difference between iPad and an android tab. There is no denying that the homescreen paging and screen rotation is super smooth (I mean really KY Gel smooth). But let me say this, that's UI (USER INTERFACE), which is really the unusable part of the tablet. I mean what is the practicality of having a super smooth paging of homescreens and app drawers and super smooth responsive rotation feature. Where a quad-core android tab would kick any iPad butt is in OS and app loading time and app processing time - but nobody pays any Miami d to that...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
What app loading time are you talking about can you please give us details of the applications where you are facing the problem with loading times. I agree that android OS is still some way away from IOS but then there are lots of fundemental things which an ipad cannot do to. The reason Ipad has no lag because I feel Ipad has no homescreen its just a bunch of icons which anyways will eat resources
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dale_cooper:
I seriously don't know how this is possible....

Its incredibly weird that my device, fresh off a system restore lags..meanwhile your tablet - same hardware runs perfectly all the time. Meanwhile, multiple multiple review sites complain about lag - were they using the device wrong, is it sheer chance? I don't think so...

I will say that I haven't noticed the lag now that I've gotten things installed. Homescreens do shutter a tad still; in comparison to the nexus 7 which is 100% smooth all day every day.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] hoss_n2:
May be you are using the July roms, it was somewhat laggy but the update released in September fixed allot of issues
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dhd1802:
ron2k is spot on with what he said about the ones in-store. the only time mine ever lags is when the ammount of ram used goes above 1.5GB, which is quite frequent if i dont close apps fully.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
Mine lags regardless whether I clear the RAM or closed all application. My theory is that I am on a crappy firmware.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ap27:
I think some of the Samsung widgets may also be the reason for lagging. But there's no denying this is one capable tablet. I usually have 8-10 widgets strewn across 3 homescreens with a pretty taxing Live Wallpaper (True Weather LWP, its beautiful!) and i can only see the slightest hiccup every now and then while scrolling through homescreens.

Also, I feel that the hiccups come up more often when my battery dips below 30% or so. Weird.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mathen:
I had an ipad2 ,but now am happy with n8000.It boots faster than iPad.It does every task better than iPad.Only plus point in pad3 is its retina display.Or else its just plain pages of app icons.No widgets, no shortcuts.(not even toggle wifi shortcut!)

I will say, its meant for kids and senior citizens ,for the ease of use(no offense).;)

I used to admire the vast app collection for ipad.But now things have changed.Most of the popular apps are available for android too.:cowboy:

Browsing internet on ipad is poor experience.:eek:While on my N8000 pages load fast and displays it just like on a pc.:cool:

With android the possibilities are limitless! with Ipad you are stuck with few apps and an itunes for every task.

OI had the taste ,thats why I am saying android rules.:good:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DarkPhoenix:
I just got mine and they forgot to include the Iag. I'm thinking about returning it due to lack of Iag. :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
Deleted ALL widgets and hiccups everywhere. Switching apps. Opening notes, loading next page of pdfs. Bookmark in Internet. Search function on the top left.

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What firmware u r running on
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sledgie:
Only time i have lag is when my storage is <500MBs

Although i will say with the newer firmware, i do lag slightly more than before. Before i could get close to max capacity <200MBs and then start to lag. This feels like it keeps more data in memory then before and then transfers to storage
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
I am also using the Asus LWP with the weather widget my is always on power saving mode while i am not playing heavy duty games likes asphalt or mass inflitrator and though in economy mode it still works without any lag though I do not have many widgets
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Kahjye:
i think this is a great device!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
I have got sick and tired of people talking about lag with galaxy note, so I decided to upload a video, hope this proves that there is no lag as reported by some and please excuse the quality as I am not a professional with them

http://youtu.be/ZBLg1C3IbWk

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Now please tell me what lag are you talking about
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DarkPhoenix:
LI3 currently.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dale_cooper:
I'll watch that at lunch but to play devil's advocate, I could point you to multiple review videos where lag is clearly demonstrated (the verge's video review is one I know off hand). Now please tell me why samsung would ship a factory unit that lags (when all the stock widgets and other BS touchwiz trash is littered everywhere). It is a FACT that it does in stock form. Do you think the reviewers loaded up their tablet to create a conspiracy and intentionally make it lag? No, it comes that way.... mine doesn't really lag now but its not smooth like a nexus device. Regardless, why as a company would you ship something that lags? It's not good quality control and as a person buying their products, you should expect more.

Have you played with a nexus 7 Samir ? Are there some nexus 7 units that lag? Not my knowledge, and it got unanimously high reviews because of that.... and it's cause google/asus cared to make it that way. Will the nexus 10 lag? Probably not... cause google cares about UX.

I've gotten around the lag now and my device seems to be fine... but its part of a bigger problem with how Samsung presents their devices in stock form with touchwiz. It's "messy"
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
Again I would say I do not believe most of the tech site reviews they are biased, I have not used Nexus 7 nor am I comparing this to it or any other tablet the only point I am trying to prove is that there is no lag let me try and add all the widget that are there and then test it we shall see if there is lag still.My contention is not that not is the best device or the perfect device but that the talk about lag is not true

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Another video coming up shortly, now what tell me if i need to so something else to prove the no lag theory also all this was done while power saving mode was enable
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
Thanks hope now people will agree or prove otherwise
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] KoRoZIV:
What pen is that?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
It's this one...

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-S110EBEGSTA

It's half off in the U.S.at the Samsung accessory store.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1956021
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
Thats expensive but looks cool is it better while using of it also
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
I'm still completely stock and never have lag. So the statement about "its a fact stock lags" is false. IMO,build quality is also more than satisfactory.

Ill take android and its shortcomings (which are constantly being improved) over Ios anyday. Been there done that with apple and ios. The os and its limitations get boring and old fast. Ipad is great for my 2yr. Old though ;) lol
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] KoRoZIV:
Thanks. I'll have to ask in my local store if they are going to sell it sometime soon.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dale_cooper:
Look at this from a business perspective - so if you were within the project team at Samsung; an executive manager. You would voluntarily make the decision to release a VERSION of a product to review sites knowing it was poor? If so, you're a shameful manager; because most people who see those videos are going to leave thinking the product is half effort. Why would you introduce settings (or widgets) after a factory restore that induce lag (I DID experience this, I'm not crazy, and so did others). It's like Samsung's UAT levels are just poor.

I understand the complexity from a code perspective that touchwiz adds on top of android. My point is that in my opinion the implementation isn't fully tested or fleshed out; I like the features, just frustrated they didn't make it cleaner.

I understand your other points.

Samir - you're saying that the review sites intentionally made their devices lag? alllllllright then. I disagree, but ok

I wish I bought mine new, I would definitely exchange it to see if a different version had better hardware (which I suspect it does).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
Another link as promised

http://youtu.be/nJtFr7dq21k

thats one of the reason the second reason is that the tech sites are biased I would not be surprised if they get favors from apple

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I do not think the thread is got boring infact I feel its the other way around as now we are bringing the truth I love my note and hence if there is any stupid **** nonsense being said about it I will put all my effort to prove its wrong again there is nothing personal against anyone over here but I really find it surprising that how people are going to any extent to prove that note is a laggy tablet and justify most of what the tech sites review have said. I have small humble request for them if you are a note owner then why dont you put a video up to show the lag you feel, until then i have got two words for you .... do i need to tell you what those are keep guessing

PS i have listed a device call micromax funbook try getting a hand on that and use it you will know what laggy device really is
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
It happens. I’ve done this for a living and It's happened to me. We on this forum have a pretty singular view of the Note because we're discussing it in isolation. I'm sure the product teams at Samsung that are responsible for the Note probably oversee a dozen or more past, present, and future products at the same time. By the time a product is ready for launch it's been finished for weeks and the product management teams are on to the next product leaving PR, sales, and marketing to take over. I have no idea why some of the reviewer's units performed the way they did. But less than perfect products get sent to reviewers and normally they're pretty good at working with the manufacturer to understand whether issues are specific to their unit or more widespread. There was far more negativity from the media over the Note than what's been reflected here. I have no idea why but I'm sure that those here that are happy are genuinely so and not fanbois

This is an example of a bad unit getting out to the media and how it was handled. It's an imperfect world we live in.

In our original review of the ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Prime I did the best I could do given limited testing opportunity with the platform before the NDA lifted on all the reviews. I made the commitment back then to come back with additional findings after I had spent more time with the platform. Today I'm back to make good on that promise.

Two more Eee Pad Transformer Prime samples later and here we are. Next week retailers and retailers should begin shipping the first orders of the Prime out to customers. There were a number of gaps I wasn't happy with in our original review of the Prime, and I've spent the past couple of weeks trying to fill them. Even what I'm presenting today isn't perfect, but when combined with the original review it should paint a more complete picture of the Eee Pad Transformer Prime.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5175/asus-transformer-prime-followup​
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ugotproblemz:
Stock N8013 here. No lag no errors nothing. I'm not even rooted. Device is perfect out of the box....unlike some tablet that I know *cough ASUS cough*
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dale_cooper:
Nakel - I really appreciate that response... seriously, awesome perspective. Love your ipad perspective because well there is an ipad3 on craigslist for a great price that is really tempting me. Part of my attraction to trying iOs I'm kinda worn out on android (phones, original transformer, nexus 7, now the note)

yes for some reason the images when browsing just don't look right to me. Here's the thing, I think my initial hardware impressions with the device are really clouding my overall judgement. I'm highly contemplating ordering a white one from amazon (I'd prefer white anyways). Everytime I pick up the note, it feels "weak" and will creak slightly if I move it around (if I had a case, I probably wouldn't notice this, regardless it rubs me wrong).

I need to use the device more - i used it all last night and I'll fully admit it was quite enjoyable (I do wish I could use chrome and gmail in split screen). I even did a quick little sketch which was fun and entertaining. Need to just keep playing with it and get a nice slim case.

I'm stopping by best buy on my way home to see how their white demo unit feels.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Nakel:
Dale, glad I could be of help! The main thing to remember is get whatever you like the most. Depending on your use, the extra weight of the Ipad may not be as big a deal to you as it is to me. Lots of people like Ipads for various reasons. Nothing wrong with that. Hell, given the choice I'd rather buy from an American company. Keep in mind with Apple though you're buying into a very draconian DRM system that is designed to keep you buying Apple forever. Apple products will always be designed to discourage you from using any content but that which you buy from Apple. That's the main thing that I dislike about Apple.

If I buy something, a book or a movie, I want to watch or read it on whatever device I choose to own. That may be an android tablet today, it may be something entirely else next year. I like reading books with Cool Reader, that's just not possible with books bought from Apple. I buy my books from B&N, because it's easy to strip the DRM. I buy my music from Amazon, because there is no DRM. I don't distribute or pirate media, but I want to use media I purchase on whatever device I own. Apple takes DRM to the extreme, both in content they sell, and in measures designed to keep your content off of their devices. Hell, remember the version of Itunes that searched out and deleted all of the mp3 files it found on your PC? I'll never trust Itunes again; what other games are they playing today if they tried that? I had to install Itunes on an old unused laptop for my wife's Ipad. Burn me once, shame on you; burn me twice, shame on me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dale_cooper:
Wow if thats the case, ipad would be bad because I never get music from itunes or the play store.. eeeek.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
You'd be surprised how many people don't know how to get their media any other way. For them, Play, Amazon Market, and the App Store are their sole source for media (and where Google, Amazon, and Apple make a ton of money). A lot of friends ask me which way to go; iOS or Android. I'll hand them my phone or tablet and ask them to play with it. If after a minute they're still staring at it blankly I'll tell them to go iOS. If they ask lucid "how can I...?" questions I'll tell them to go Android. Neither Android or iOS is a right or wrong decision.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Nakel:
Itunes doesn't do that now; I'm not saying that. But it did at one point... Makes me wonder is all.

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I like that!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] MercuryStar:
Ipad's UI looks and feels smoother because it does rendering (of effects, transitions) in a separate thread. Android (prior to JB) doesn't do this. This doesn't necessarily mean that programs start faster, but that they appear to, because the transitions are instant and smooth rather than jerky.

One of the major design goals for Jellybean was to make the UI smoother and they have done quite a lot of work in this area, such as adding triple buffering which removes some rendering bottlenecks and a redesigned animation framework.

The idea is to close the gap between Android and iOS which has had smooth transitions as a design goal since the start. With a decent CPU and GPU it should improve things a lot.

Whether this is the case in the final JB (ie, not the leak) for this device is yet to be seen. Keeping in mind that individual apps - such as Samsung's Touchwiz home screen - still have the potential to be jerky and slow in their internal transitions if they poorly implement animations. The system could be beautiful and smooth everywhere except the Touchwiz homescreen, and Samsung will still be slammed for a slow and jerky tablet. The performance of the homescreen is pretty vital to making the device feel fast. In my experience, even on 4.0.4 I have found that replacing the Touchwiz homescreen with Nova Launcher makes the tablet feel so much smoother because the home screen runs more smoothly.

As for me, if you want my personal opinion I wouldn't buy an iOS device for a couple of reasons - 1. glass screen which shatters if you look at it wrong. 2. locked down experience, even things like not being able to put in a MicroSD card loaded with files and documents. It wouldn't have anything to do with the smoothness of transitions on the screen ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
LOL?

- The inside material is reinforced plastic, but the coating (unlike iPhone 5) does not come off and it feels and looks like metal.

- Premium feel is subjective but the lighter weight may make you feel that way, but personally I rather it to be lighter

- Does the plastic frame flex? Definitely not on my Note, that was the galaxy tab problem, kind of old.

- The aluminium back of an iPad scratches as easily as a note. You either use a case or a body protector. Otherwise you will have a scratched tablet no matter which device you have.

- What do you mean by incredibly slick? The front is still gorilla glass, the back isn't that slick at all

- Nexus 7 is also made from plastic........... and similar materials have been implemented on Nexus 10, by Samsung.

On the other hand:

- The Note doesn't feel like a brick of metal.

- The Note does not overheat when playing games (unlike the iHotMetal)

- The Note does not scratch the desk or your skin

- The Note does not feel stone cold during winter

- The Note does not give you static electric shocks

- The screen on the Note does not shatter as easily when drop

- Most importantly, the Note has a Wacom digitizer, and that should be the only reason you are checking out the Note right? If you don't want a digitizer, save youself some moeny, you could have get a Nexus 10 or galaxy tab 2 with higher specs and lower price
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
On a related note, great news for Android. We have tied with apple in number of apps. Tuesday Google announced it broke the 700,000 apps marker. Just a week earlier apple toted having that many also in its app store. So ios users/lovers can no longer use argument over ios having more apps. ;)

Just a f.y.i