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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkendvoid88:
I work at a 3rd party store and the majority of our profit comes from new act's and upgrades on the contracts. Phones if sold outright typically give us 0 profit. Accessories are a different story some are more profit than others but it typically doesn't compare to the profit contracts bring us. It doesn't really make sense to me though, I think it's more sprint trying to lock us into GSM devices that only work on the networks that bring them profit via the 4.99 international plan add on that really only reduces the price by a few cents a minute in less than 50% of the countries that they have on there. Otherwise all of us would just be buying prepaid sim's and living the life. We still tell customers to buy a prepaid phone in the country they are going to or to use wifi at hotels and skype.

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last I heard it was about 500mA compared to the 2A wall charger, wireless charging can only supply so many amps, I hear theres a few tweaks to bump it up 150mA or so but even then that would be slow to me.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] xamindar:
You lost me here. Did you mean CDMA?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkendvoid88:
I was referring more to the international phones Sprint carries with full GSM functionality such as the Photon Q and Note II, both of which were stripped of their sim slot in favor of an embedded sim to lock you into sprints international plan and their partners overseas.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] randy2:
Ok I have a theory based on why it's so slow although I hope someone else does the mod as I don't have the parts for this I think the charging slowness might be do to using the qi standard and not palm every mod to date uses palm and not qi if in theory both will charge a phone as long as u have the right male female components but qi standard might allow a faster charge someone. buy a old htc wc thunderbolt case Take it apart and adapt it to a qi charging station
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
Wrong thread?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] randy2:
Yea. Mod please delete my bad
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
Yeh. But good to know that inductive charging is totally possible. Why they would disable this for no real reason is odd.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] randy2:
I picked up a white housing for my titanium note that i will get as soon as they come in
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] stickshift88:
i was thinking you could activate the ICCID (4g sim card) serial number from an iphone 5 since it uses a removable lte card so you could use a dual sim solution but the billing system will not allow you to edit the iccid of a note 2 or an sgs 3. Just thought i would give you guys a heads up.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] brincarus:
Use GSM other than sprint network

My question: The Sprint GN2 will work on GSM unlocking the menu over other country's GSM networks?

Let's say Movistar South America?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] leond:
Yuo can take the phone to other country and it will see GSM networks and will be able to use international roaming roughly an $4.99 per minute. There is no way to "unlack it" for use with local SIM beacause there is no place to insert the SIM
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkendvoid88:
Not yet
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] asuh:
:good:

As soon as I see some progress on this, I'll be very likely to finally purchase one.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] randy2:
As soon as bestbuy has my titanium note 2 i will begin my mods i have to use best buy due to the insurance and I have some of the componets, i have the international note 2 back plate replacement, i have a sim slot casing im still waiting on the dual sim adapter but im waiting on it like everyone else hopefully we will have tri-sim (internal and dual sim) wireless charging soon.

One piece of help someone can help me out with since i dont have the device yet does anyone know what is the pin mapping, their designations I have enclosed a picture with black lines connected to the pins, which is pin one and which is pin eight. I dont know the pin mapping on which way would the sim slot would align itself if anyone knows please tell me remember i dont have the device but as soon as i get it ill start the mods. Im trying to get things started before i even have the device.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] busyychild:
Since Sprint uses a LTE Sim card for the iPhone and possibly other LTE phones, would it be possible to purchase an unlocked Verizon, or other US phone and use the Sprint LTE chip provided that phone uses the same LTE bands Sprint does?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
Yep. Not yet. But I will pay for the mod that allows me to use any countries 3g GSM SIM card on the Note 2. For sure!!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] leond:
That is the problem - Verizon is on a different LTE band so most likely it will not work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Note_II

http://www.radio-electronics.com/in...ong-term-evolution/lte-frequency-spectrum.php
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
The Note II has the capacity for all of the spectrums. Unless the actual hardware (doubt it) antenna has been gimped. Once the SIM is unwired for piggy (or more specifically a standard additional SIM is introduced through a hardware hack)..by using a dual SIM app we should be able to access the GSM networks anywhere in the world by using the correct SIM.

Looks like the N7105 model hardware is missing the 1900 Mhz on the 3G band.

2G Network	GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network	HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100

HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100 - N7105

4G Network	LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2600 - N7105

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands

SIM	Micro-SIM

Edit: I'm not disagreeing with you. I am complimenting your post with additional info. I am really just interested in emergency 3G usage in another country...not 4G here in the US.

Edit 2:

Dual-SIM dual-standby

Some of variants, especially variants for Chinese market, have the dual-SIM dual-standby feature, such as GT-N7102, GT-N7108, and SCH-N719.

Too bad the above model probably don't work on CDMA at all.

Verizon and Sprint are money grubbers with this. They can use GSM but they know that they force customer through hardware to stay with them and can over charge them when they try to use the cell phones in other countries.

Lame. I may consider going back to Tmobile (SGS 6?) next round just for this reason.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Malkozaine:
So does that mean with a sim card hack I could get the Sprint Note 2 to work on the AT&T 3G & 4G LTE?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] randy2:
Yes with a sim card hack u can use on any gsm that the note 2 has an antenna for domestic or international
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Malkozaine:
Awesome.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] findthedr:
not necessarily. Although the Note II hardware supports it, Sprint might have locked GSM use in the US.

they have done this with other sprint branded phones that have a sim slot (iphone, photon, etc). Those phones can access GSM international but not in the US due to a lock at the level of the radio firmware.

Thus even if someone is succesfully able to mod a SIM onto the Note II, there is no guarantee it will allow GSM in the US.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
No. On any GSM 3G carrier that the Note 2 has a frequency for.

Not on 4G LTE though, as it uses a different encryption and needs "permission" or a SERIOUS hack in order to access it.

GSM should work no prob on T-Mobile and Att on 3G. This has been proven before with other devices. But, I agree with you. Sprint 3G via a SIM or Verizon via a SIM may not work...ever.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] findthedr:
which devices would that be? As far as I know, Sprint does not allow their GSM capable CDMA phones from accessing other US carriers via carrier lock.

Sprint and Verizon both use CDMA. phone IMEI have to be in their computer system to have direct access (i.e. not roaming) to their network.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] randy2:
The software or the unlocking of the radio has been done or will be done easily thats not a concern, there will be NO 4G LTE through the sim card mod due to encryption, you will still retain your sprint lte service because we are not disconnecting the chip just a splice bypass to allow sim card access for 3g sim card networks domestic or international. If best buy ever gets in titanium note 2's we can get this puppy on the road.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] findthedr:
All good in theory. the proof is in the pudding.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
Yep.

And ...I wasn't clear. I meant unlocking GSM phones to use on other GSM networks, in the US or abroad. I don't know about Sprint or Verizon phones with hidden SIMs or whatever being used in any GSM networks.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Malkozaine:
Well all I know is as long as this Hall world's I will be a happy man. What about you guys?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] findthedr:
Ok. thanks for clarifying.

Since this is a forum for the Sprint Galaxy Note II, I am limiting my comments to Sprint devices. Sprint has always carrier locked their phones for the US. In addition to that their newer phones have an embedded SIM. Even with a SIM mod, sprint note II owners would likely have to get around a US carrier lock.

Since there are other versions of the note II (i.e. on other carriers), the solution may be as simple as flashing the radio from one of those phones (such as a verizon phone) or it may not.

I just dont want people to go buy this phone with the false hope that a SIM mod will automatically allow them to use the phone with other US carriers. That may not be the case until proven otherwise.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
If Sprint has "US Carrier" lock. then what happens when your contract is up and you "own" the phone? Do they give some bizarre unlock code to us?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] findthedr:
1. continue on sprint

2. switch to a sprint MVNO

3. use phone in wifi only mode

4. sell phone

5. expensive paperweight

nope. In the older CDMA/GSM phones that had a SIM slot, they would say that it is not possible to use the GSM in the US. Newer Sprint phones dont even have a SIM slot and so they will say that it is not supported (i.e. cant switch to GSM US network).

technically you could use the phone on another US CDMA network (Verizon), but they too will only allow phones with their IMEI in their system (i.e. verizon branded phones).

CDMA carriers want to lock you into their network. Only reason Verizon is a little more flexible (regarding GSM being unlocked) is because of US government mandate as part of a wireless frequency spectrum purchase.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkendvoid88:
Nv_data.bin unlock?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] findthedr:
Although that works for locked GSM phones, it probably is not that simple for a sprint branded phone. More than likely it will require a radio flash.

Anyway, this is all conjecture until someone actually attempts to see what will and wont work.

People who claim its going to be easy are not familiar with the lengths sprint has gone, in the past, to lockdown their phones.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkendvoid88:
I figure if they unlocked the photon we can do it too
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkendvoid88:
Can't wait to have my pudding and eat it too :p
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Malkozaine:
Is it vanilla vor chocolate?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
The photon 4G LTE has been unlocked for any GSM sim!?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkendvoid88:
last I checked they were running a hardware mod for dual SIM and were using software to switch SIM cards but I'm not sure if it's network unlocked. Id assume it was, otherwise what's the point of a dual SIM mod. but we all know assuming makes an ass of you and me
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
If that's true....so boss. Kudos to them
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] asuh:
I believe the Photon Q is locked. I own the Photon WiMax 4G and it's unlocked. I used it easily with other SIMs in Europe earlier this year. This is the most desired feature that the Note II lacks b/c it's the phone I really want to switch to!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] findthedr:
1. photon 4G Wimax can be used internationally simply by switching the GSM sim card. It can use GSM for the USA by unlocking the bootloader, rooting, and flashing KDDI radio.

2. photon Q LTE has an embedded SIM which forces users to use Sprint's high roaming rates internationally. With a hardware SIM mod it can be used internationally at non-sprint rates. Whether it can use GSM in the USA with the SIM mod alone has yet to be determined (i.e. not reported yet).
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
If it can use SIM's in Europe, I would be shocked if a common T-mobile SIM "pay as you go" would not work in the US.

Is the hardware Mod for dual SIM difficult for the Photon LTE? Link to the Mod?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] findthedr:
I cant believe you still dont understand. I'll try again for the last time.

1. Photon Q and Photon 4g Wimax are BOTH made by the same Manufacturere (motorola) and BOTH on the same carrier (sprint).

2. Photon 4G wimax has a slim slot and works out-of-the-box internationally but WILL NOT work in the US (with non-sprint carriers) without flashing KDDI radio b/c limits sprint has put in place at the radio firmware level.

3. Photon Q LTE will work internationally with a SIM hardware mod. It is an ASSUMPTION to believe that motorola/sprint has not put in place a USA carrier lock that they were willing to implement in the past.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1929143
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
Hey..simmer down TONTO. Who said I didn't understand. You? I understood perfectly boss hoss.

1. First, I already knew this. Second, so what

2. I knew that before you ever said it (which exact radio I did not...but again....so what)

3. Again, already understood this from previous posts.. I was positing a possibility or likely hood in my statement.

Thank for the link, which is the only thing your last post offered.. Try to not get so excited. No one is paying you to chat in here so stop if you are frustrated (for no reason at all).
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] daiuton:
Okay guys (and gals), so come Monday I am going to design a cap that you could just slide over the top of the LTE chip, out of the top of the cap would be the connections. I will post pictures once I get the CAD drawings done. I will also point a link for to a voting system, so I can figure out who would want one and how much you would be willing to spend (so I know if only 20 people say they want one but only want to spend $2 and the manufacturer says it'll cost $10 then I know it's not worth it.).
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] kbrn:
I don't own a note 2 yet. But I'm thinking about using my upgrade and get me one, if you get to do this it will help me to get rid of my Motorola Photon which I use only for when I go to Mexico.. It would be awesome to be able to use just one phone while traveling again...

So if I do get a note 2 I'm down!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkendvoid88:
Sounds good if you can get it done. I didn't notice any really exposed leads that'd make a slip over easily feasible but if you managed to get a working one done I'd gladly pay $5-10 for it.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
Dude...anyone that wouldn't spend $20 bucks on that (edit... doesn't find a dual SIM setup valuable). I will give you $20 IF we can be SURE that, let's say...a T-Mobile SIM, which I have...or an Att go card SIM, will work in it. I know that we also need to run a dual SIM app as well.

I'm in right now for $20. If it is more, then we can discuss.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] daiuton:
Anyone have the chip mapped out? I'm probably going to use spring copper strips and then ribbon cable to come out of the top, bonded together with abs plastic, wish I had my 3d printer already. I probably will buy the other rear housing to make another version but we'll see.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] leond:
I've downloaded "SIM Card" app from the market and in CDMA/LTE mode it says "network unlocked" Network type LTE, but when I switch the phone in to GSM/UMTS or CDMA only mode it states "network locked" - It also shows the actual serial number of the SIM meaning that it can believes it has an actual SIM card.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] daiuton:
Eureka

ok so I got my measurements done, a little behind, but I wanted to post what my ideas are. Here is a link to my site, which also has a straw poll, please vote only once and only if you are interested in me making this product for sale.

http://inyourvision.com/sprint-lte-chip/
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] fryingpan0613:
I would be willing to pay $10 and I don't even need it

sent from my awesomely huge Note II
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] rkboid:
IF a t-mobile or ATT SIm would work in the US I would be willing upwards of $50.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] daiuton:
Well the white mid plate is $9 per so I would guess probably $20 with the full assembly but we'll see I still have to see if it would fit

Update: First drafts of the chip cover are up on my site, now I need to purchase a mid plate to get some diameters and see if we could make the SIM card fit.

http://inyourvision.com/sprint-lte-chip/
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] francisatrm:
i have been reading over this thread for a while now and its the main reason i joined this forum,as this is my first post, i dont want to get too excited. dude i will pay and even fly out to where i can pick up the "CAP" i even opened my device today and got it ready for your mod lol. i go on allot of international trips and this will be such a great help for me. i wanted this phone since it came out on att and waited if it to come out on sprint now that its here, sprint decided to go with an embedded sim. i also attached some pics that should help those who keep breaking the back plate. after taking off all the screws and before opening the device, i used a small dremel attachment to drill out the 3 plastic holes which are melted and fused to the back and filed down the snaps closest to the batteries for easier dissemble for future hardware mods.

please correct me if there is no need to use of dremel or a small drill to open up those 3 holes. it seemed to help me when i opened the device

at this point i will do anything to be able to add an international sim to this phone. its is really all that i need other than a 12000mAh external battery i carry with me on trips.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] francisatrm:
those cad images are really promising !
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
Give you $30 for the mod sir. Again, as long as it works and comes with the new backplate (titanium for me).

Which app will we need to use for the dual SIM functionality? I would be thrilled with 3g functionality with Att or Tmobile pay-as-you-go sims. I have both to test as well. If they work, I would assume that international sims work just fine as well. We can easily start a "compatible with X Sim list"

By the way.... if you pull this off, expect a crapload of people ordering from you...and therefore, I would like to be put on your short list if possible.

Respectfully,
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] leond:
Wow! this look impressive and promising! I would defenitly buy it if it will work with international SIM. I don't think it will ever work in US with AT&T or T-mobile as it is software blocked to see those networks.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] daiuton:
Revision 2 OTW

:eek:Wow uh seems alot of people would like this... please click the thanks if you like this project, not saying that XDA is a high school competition for popularity but it doesn't hurt to get noticed by the XDA cheerleaders...

I would like to caution everyone, this is still in the design phase, once the cap is built the software still needs to be tested, this whole project could be for nothing if we find the software, however unlikely, has been locked down and no developer is available to write some dirty code work around. With that if anyone one of the senior members or developers would like to test it let me know, I will get a couple test runs created for free for the developers to make sure the software works.

On to business, I have a couple other engineers that may be collaborating on this project, and from the straw poll so far it looks pretty even split, so I maybe looking at making the cap then designing the connectors next, one thing to think about with the midplate is we have to put the connection hardware back in to the plate(for the SIM). The goal of this project is to make something the lease damaging to the current build of the phone, so if you need to do a warranty claim its just a simple matter of removing the cap or midplate.

Revision 2 of the cap, I am putting a 1-2 degree tilt on the contactors towards pins, pulling up the height of the cap from .11cm to .1cm(maybe more) to compensate for any factory differences in the making of the board. I am hoping to get a quote next week on the cap, but it seems a lot of people want the midplate for the GSM note, so I may get a quote for the cap and then look at engineering two connectors one free floating (with the two connectors, one normal SIM one Micro), and the midplate which more than likely will have all the connections built on to it.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
What is the standard going to be for international SIMs? Is it micro SIm or normal SIM. Will we have to carry two different connector pieces just in case?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] daiuton:
The best will be the micro sim since we probably won't have room to put the full size and it is the new standard. Plus you can get a adapter.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] francisatrm:
Did you get the LTE cip mapped out?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] leond:
I think adapter is for the microSIM to be place in a regular SIM adapter and not the other way around. In countries I go to prepaid SIMs are still mostly regular ones not micro
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] spiicytuna:
I'd be in for 3 at the $20 price point.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] up7up:
I'd be in for 2 at the $20 - 30 price point.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] lepapirriky:
This looks promising.... I'll keep an eye for this when the time comea but for sute im interested
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] DarkManX4lf:
I'm interested as well. I hope this works.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] raptoreb:
I am interested in either solution you go with and would be interested in purchasing from you.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] lovekeiiy:
I have a side question, not to hijack thread. Under the Settings->Network->Mobile Networks->Network Mode, there is an option GSM/UMTS. Why would this be included if the phone doesn't have the GSM radio chips? My assumption it's there for all variants and sprint just didn't remove it.

I'm assuming there are no GN2 that have both radios.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] dtugg:
It does have a GSM radio. But because of the embedded SIM it will only work overseas and at like $5/minute.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] lovekeiiy:
oh ok. now I know.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] bluem6:
This looks interesting, I might be interested..
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] daiuton:
Sorry for the hiatus, getting back to work on this probably will have a Rev 2 tomorrow and go from there.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Sho'nuff75:
First time to this thread, just bought a GNII today and all I really thought I needed was tethering (for work). But I do travel a lot and your mod would be awesome! I'm in for this, I would want whatever method is best and easiest to bring back to store if needed be. I take that would be the mid plate? Count me in either way. :good: