[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
This thread (not you) has gotten stupid on many different levels.

1) Reviewers are shipped early or pre-production units to evaluate well before commercial release and sign NDA's that they won't disclose anything until a set day and time. They don't go to BB and buy their units off the shelf the day they become available so it's fair to say their units may not perform the same (better or worse) than a consumer's.

2) Android is far from a perfect OS. Even in pure "Nexus" form there are force closes, app misbehavior, and infrastructure anomalies that affect its performance in certain areas. The whole "project butter" effort is basically Google admitting that they had issues in everything before 4.1. We'll find out in 5.0 what's broken in 4.1/4.2 when the new "it's so much better at..." PR is released.

3) Android apps range from carefully written to crap. Who know what's been loaded on any given device. With all the fragmentation of the OS itself there are apps that haven't been updated since they were written for 2.3/3.0. The individual apps (or a specific combination of them) can definitely affect an individual users experience.

4) There is no definition of "lag." It's purely subjective. Everyone's arguing whether someone's claim of lag is true or false. Since we have no idea what the claimant's definition is or what s/he has running on their particular device it's a pretty esoteric discussion.

5) TW and Sense have a lot going on that a Nexus device doesn't. With the tens of thousands of lines of code they each represent it's fair to say every one of those lines of code aren't necessarily perfect. They also use a lot of resources. So it's logical to assume that burden has some effect on performance. But when someone with a Nexus device adds back the 10-20 apps contained in TW/Sense they've introduced as many lines of code and an equal or greater burden since they're not optimized to work together. My personal view is that TW/Sense's increase in overhead is a fair compromise to get the integration and additional features they provide. Those that disagree shouldn't get a device with an overlay and there are now Nexus options in every device category so you don't have to.

To help people understand whether the Note "lags" or not, I and a couple of other people have posted videos of our devices performing. I have over 100 apps loaded and 30+ home page widgets. In my view, it doesn't lag any more than any other high-end device should with the same 100 apps and 30+ home page widgets. I've never used a memory manager, battery monitor, task killer or any other "utility" that interferes with Android's in-built system management as they are known to do more harm than good. YMMV. So for those claiming "lag," unless you're willing to post everything you have loaded on your device and the specific conditions that are causing what you deem unacceptable performance this conversation isn't going to go anywhere. And your individual experiences have no meaning to someone who doesn't have their device configured

exactly

the same way you do, uses it

exactly

the same way, and has the

exact

same expectations..

Peace out.

[YOUTUBE]UDvXvoAgAT8[/YOUTUBE][YOUTUBE]i2FSpJUKqyg[/YOUTUBE][YOUTUBE]Pv-eBVgooI4[/YOUTUBE]