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[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
what you got answered was the all public standard reply. but the technical installation tells a different story, and how LG have tried to protect their property with security checks, wrapping binaries with checksums and trying to make it harder to unlock both bootloader and root. they are not opensource property friendly, and got no reason to yet.

If they start removing security on the device, asian manufacturers might copy this device more easily. being a Korean company they could be more protective around their licenses and copyrights. just look at television sets, they use Linux for the frontend on tv's as well, but backend is tightly secured with checks and RSA encryptions wrapping firmware updates, and keys encapsulated into the firmware installed the first time. they are all about protecting rights and not really open to share anything, probably because they do not make enough earnings on their sales yet.

Just look at their news on their mainpage, they try to show people they support cancer research, they support women in asia for different reasons and alot of other areas are covered to compensate for their copyrighted closed material they do not share at all. but it gives them at least a better official frontend toward enduser sales.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] QweJay:
Why HTC could unlocked the bootloader but LG not （ Very few users? ）

Sorry about my bad English
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
HTC did NOT unlock anything, they just included functionality in their system to open the existing bootloader, so far, that the serialnumber needed to be exposed to HTC, so warranty got broken the instant the user accepted to unlock on htcdev.com which makes the device alot harder to sell to anyone knowing about the problem.

it is not unloacked, so anyone can change and install a different bootloader re-arrange partitions, all they got was opening the kernel and recovery partition for different installs.

having a unlocked bootloader, Means you can restore the mobile from APX mode and reinstall a completely new partition setup and different bootloader if needed.

LG have not invented such a strategy, so no devices currently enabled LGdev.com unlocking as example since the idea is not implemented.

so LG can only completely unlock it or they can keep it as is.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
Yah but with HTC phones...you'd still need to have S-off in order to have AOSP built ROMs.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Daffiestlime:
So how close are we to Jelly Bean "stock" roms and such now? The 4X is on sale where I live, and I'm really considering if, if I can keep updated and install roms in the future.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Säx:
No roms yet, official jellybean maybe in january. Bootloader is locked, but people are working on it
[LG Optimus 4X HD] cartermg120:
Would it be possible to create a rom that boots from the SD card? Such as hd2 (I no its a windows phone) or is that still restricted due to all the obstacles we have with this phone?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] profyler:
january is too optimistic. i would say march. (it took ~4 months from 09A to 10a when the phone was beeing developed and released for sell, so i based my thought that JB will come only about 4 month after we saw that it was being developed in november)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Säx:
Didnt know that even, kinda disapointing though... But lets stay positive still :) maybe LG has a seazure or something and realeases jb early :D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
use the search tool please.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Croaker24:
Any progress in unlocking kholk?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] lenny.chem.dat:
I follow kholk on Twitter. His last message was:

So we have to wait for him to get his phone back and find a new way. Be patient, guys.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Gildegan:
And for those who are willing to change or regretting changing from a galaxy s III, the phone is very faulty and have one mayor issue, it have a "sudden death " problem that a lot of people are experiencing.

So, be grateful that our 4x doesn't have faults of that type.

Enviado desde mi LG-P880 usando Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus 4X HD] mikkis2k:
My friend has an SIII, he bought it the second it got released.. he is still happy and hasn't goten 1 single hickup.. :P It's just the same as the xbox red ring of death.. my xbox is as old as release.. it's still running:P
[LG Optimus 4X HD] QweJay:
Is there something news?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] galdeano:
is this realy so dificult to open the bootloader or we have the wrong guy to do this ?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] MCslo:
Dear Sir,

please read the whole thread and you will find your anwser somewhere in there. But I know you are just lazy and wont search for it,let me tell you that I would be very happy if you could do this "easy" task yourself and save us from eternal waiting, so we can live happily ever after.

When you are done with that you can try a more demanding task, kicking yourself in the head.

People these days! Only waiting for **** to fall out of the sky.

Did u even donate?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] chalid:
What are you guys expecting from an open bootloader? Can't really understand all the fuzz around it. The locked bootloader isn't the problem - there are just no devs for the phone. An open bootloader won't change that.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nedooo:
That´s what I said, but unlocked bootloadrer won´t hurt :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
Devs usually aren't motivated to work on devices with locked bootloaders.

Locked bootloader = No custom kernels which = no custom roms which = No dev support.

So everything really starts with the bootloader to see the real development potential of an Android device.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nedooo:
No custom kernels which != no custom roms
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
who told you that?

i (semi) released CM10 as backup for those who wanted to see it, and they seen it. kernel had nothing to do with modem not working right.

you can do a lot of different roms without kernel changes, but oc'ing and updating kernel is out of the way, if modules cannnot be compiled and loaded.

No developers = No future , it cannot be told any different

edit:

i misunderstood != is actually correct, you cannot compare custom kernels to custom roms, those are != so your logic is correct. but i think you meant what i originally answered ;)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] sui785:
I dont agree with your arrogant behaviour.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] phynix5800:
Better arrogant than painfully ignorant.

Gesendet von meinem LG-P880 mit Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus 4X HD] GiulioPasini:
Yep, for example, I have a Defy too, and it doesn't have a unlocked bootloader and there are a thousands ROMS for it :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] QweJay:
And the problem is who can make the custom roms work on O4X（locked bootloader）.

Sorry about my bad English
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Mr3_jacob:
I found somebody compile a new kernel（3.0.3）for Optimus 4x HD,But I'm not sure whether it is working. sorry for my poor English..

link here：goo.gl/zxIWQ
[LG Optimus 4X HD] QweJay:
I PM him.He said he was testing but the driver didn't work and it need to replace the boot.img kernel files to built a new rom.

Sorry about my bad English
[LG Optimus 4X HD] emre81tr:
Sounds good
[LG Optimus 4X HD] razerblade17:
i hope others developer will support lg 4x development..
[LG Optimus 4X HD] :
wooow sounds really good :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Tim_Pan:
I tested the kernel..and stuck in signature verfication
[LG Optimus 4X HD] QweJay:
Some people tested and got the same results:(

Sorry about my bad English

Sent from my LG-P880
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dante501:
U got to mention the major flaw all Samsungs have is the screen burn in. The 4x doesn't get screen image burn ins. I like that a lot.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
AMOLED screens do tend to burn in after a while.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nedooo:
Yup != stand for not equal ;)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] hwqdaniel:
I hope kholk can do it！
[LG Optimus 4X HD] mikkis2k:
it will take weeks or months now.. he bricked his phone..
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
i find the whole story a little bit odd by now. Many posts upto the donation fullfillment and ordering, but from here on nothing but a tweet.

He could at least have honored the xda users and reported back here, when something as drastic as bricking a device and maybe more technical follow up on what happened, to keep users happy.

but following his steps,

I want to start a donation thread, i will remake my OneX custom rom release and then i can continue our cwm recovery updates for o4x, it might take months to complete but no one seems to worry :)

i believe this post in another section explains the circumstances similar to this thread and events happening.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ppn2604:
I have to agree with you ...

After following this thread since the beginning, I was wondering later on why kholk isn't able to post some news here.

At least he's getting paid by us for trying to unlock the bootloader. So you're completley right in saying, he could at least show some guts to report the bricking of his device in this thread.

Still it wouldn't hurt, to post something regarding this unlocking project and telling us, what he is planning now for his next steps ...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] :
@Dexter_nlb

any news about you CM10 port?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
i am honest and no, my device is no longer with me and is carried by anothe family member, and i am not allowed to get it back (she will get really mad). but i follow and if the chance comes and a replacement is found, i might get it back.

at least i got a new linux box and reinstalled ubuntu and believe i got the proper machine now to compile cm10 and actually make my own if/when i get to do such release.

so if i continue i can hopefully stop calling it a port and make it a personal compile :) wouldn't hurt at all here.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] :
great, thank you for your sincerity :) i hope you find time for do this :)

agan thx.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
I was thinking that you guys still believe in Santa too... I didn't donated, that's why I kept my mouth shut but, my thoughts were not wrong... Hope to see that I'm wrong one of these days.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] XperiaPlayer:
Tbh, I dont think the bootloader is ever going to be unlocked by us. There are too little actual developers in this section, the phone is hardly sold anywhere (well i only saw it in the UK for the first few weeks, never seen anyone with this phone). I really do think that kholk has just done a runner with this phone and stuff. We havent had any status updates or anything. I appareciate he could be busy or something but a little post wont do much, I didnt donate, cause I like to see a finished product before i donate or pay for stuff. (Thats like going into a store, pay us the money then you can have your item in a few days. Store shuts down, never hear anything from them again. You just wouldnt do that)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] profyler:
To soon to asume anything
[LG Optimus 4X HD] XperiaPlayer:
Still, at least something to tell us what is going on is not really going too much out of the way since people have donated. People donated for him to have a crack at unlocking the bootloader, all we've heard is that he bricked it that is all. We haven't been told how he bricked it and what he has actually done so far.The twitter feed is dead. As far as I am aware its currently unbrickable due to other protections.etc, I really don't see what he could of done to have bricked it.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
It's not to soon to assume that "someone" should give some attention and show some respect to the "sponsors". I call for that lack of respect.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] profyler:
people donated (including me) because they wanted to. We didnt have a contract signed showing that he need to report every week.

if he finds something useful, im sure he would post something here. hes a recognized developer, and like I said , to soon to start blaming the guy and making presumption.

thats just my opinion.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Winudert:
Before release, I thought Optimus 4X HD will be a great hit. I've been wrong. I bought this device after release, but because lack of popularity this device sucks. We are still in Ice Cream Sandwich and developers doesn't give a **** on our device (EA, Rockstar). It's true. Yes, I have SGSII, but still. I will buy a new high-end phone in 2013, I don't have any other choice.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] XperiaPlayer:
Ive gone from an unsupported phone (Xperia Player, sure its got better now but when I bought it there was nothing, locked bootloader, no kernels, poor game support.etc) to an unsupported phone again. I bought this phone because I couldnt afford the GS III/One X and this looked exactly what i was looking for on paper, reviews were good and it was practically brand new. Oh i was wrong again. I cannot cope with the poor battery life on this phone (10h underclocked to 1.2Ghz Dual Core, every stock app that isnt necesary removed, everything pratically turned off) when phones such as the One X (My dads is currently on 2days 10hours at 47%, he is using it constantly as well, I dont even know how this is possible....). LG frankly dont care about this phone and I should of realised that this would have happened. Ah well my fault for going with LG, not exactly the most common phones out there now.

In response to profyler sure people donated because they wanted to but he also said he would look at and we havent heard anything from him at all other than a twitter post saying that he bricked it. If he was really looking at it all propperly he would of posted asking us how to unbrick it, which probably is just a simple fix. Just because he is a recognized developer doesn't mean anything. Its been too long, we can make as much *assumptions as we want, we have the right to afterall. Sure I didn't donate but I just think something fishy is going on. I may be wrong but still like you said thats just my opinion.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] mikkis2k:
same here.. im putting an order on nexus 4 in febuary, if the phone hasn't goten JB update by then.. :P
[LG Optimus 4X HD] profyler:
me too, + it was better looking

Dude, there is something wrong with your phone, send it back to support. 10hours is ridiculous. you must have a bad battery or something. mine last 24Hrs with moderate use. (still not a good thing anyway)

I knew this when i bought the phone, Lg is poor and have always been like that in support, peolpe say its changing, but i personally doubt it, i`ll believe it when i see it. We didnt bought a phone wich was saying in the cover "free upgrade to JB". If someone buys a LG phone, he must understand what he`s getting.

I dont agree with you. If hes a recognized developer, it means a lot of things. If you "think" that something is wrong, you cant be sure on whats going on... I said on the bounty that i would be satisfied if he at least tries to unlock it. if he`s ytying hard on it, i feel ok, even if he cant do the job.

Anyway thats my opinion, we dont have to agree on everything, right ;)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
if i had a little more support from those few that could compile cm10 properly, i could have more or less, have the build released as i did with my backup edition of jellybean, but of course using standard cwm installs not backups :)

So far more people, seemed to doubt that cm10 was possible to install without kernel compiles, or that we would get custom roms like my OneX port(sorry , i did not post, but it was work-in-progress, no daily driver).

Example:

I Had alot of fun playing with my HTC Flyer , because porting was much easier, and more hardware releases were compatible even with graphics. and i provided some hope for HTC Flyer.

With OneX and O4X being so similar and that i had wifi, and basics working (except modem) would mean it was not that far away.

There is still hope for O4X! even if no one provides the unlocked kernel. unlike my GalaxyNote2 which is swarming with many remakes of a stock releases, and only a few real compiles, its not always the bunch of releases making it fun, its the few that actually can, which makes a difference.

on GN2 only one made the CM10 officially supported being a real good developer, just one (not me!) would be needed on O4X to get the few fixes in a wrapper, to get CM10 or OneX modem support working i guess ;) its seen before.

Maybe i just did something wrong and latest JB can be prepared better compiling from scratch, but you need the one good developer to get it moving, locked or not, its not a showstopper, you just make workarounds like i shown with booting OneX port,CM10 and CWM :)

Lastly,

Why would another person, like that guy that early on showed O4X owners it was possible to make cm10 run easily, NEVER release anything or even make a github with his changes. I guess it was because that release was never real, but a fake video on a developer phone, where it was easy to remove lg apps, replace settings,build.prop and the launcher and no one could tell the difference. Some people like silly jokes, i guess it no fun anymore. you should all have written something on his g+ account and if anything was true, get the build released and leave it to others to adapt, like GN2 has seen many editions of CM10 after the compiled fixes were in place.

Really hope to see a unlocked bootloader or a real custom cm10 port using 2ndinit or something worth replacing stock roms, a stock roms with apps removed is really not much fun ;(

(i am having xmas holidays, so writing alot is relaxing for me :) )
[LG Optimus 4X HD] profyler:
You mean Ricardo ciqueira`s Optimus 4X from CyanogenMod? yeah it was a developer 4x without locked bootloader as he spoke on G+....
[LG Optimus 4X HD] XperiaPlayer:
Dexter_nlb the question ive been trying to ask how does one get a compiled CM10 to boot on the device. (Ive compiled cm9 many times before so sort of understand how it works). I understand that we need to utilise 2nd-init, but I haven't a clue where to get started. If you could advise in any way where to get started I can have a pop at it. I remember seeing a P880 device tree on github somewhere, but I dont know if that would be any use. Would CM10 work with the LG Kernel? The most ive ever done with phone development is ported MIUI and ICS to the Xperia Play and various other stuff back in the windows mobile days.

---------- Post added at 11:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:26 PM ----------

This is it:

device_tree https://github.com/TeamNDVRu/android_device_lge_x3

vendor https://github.com/TeamNDVRu/android_vendor_lge_x3

kernel https://github.com/TeamNDVRu/android_kernel_lge_x3 (Maybe this is how it was used on developer devices?)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
I didn't saw no one doubts on his skills as developer and he's the one who's making his reputation. This was my last comment.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
and that could run on ours as well, but that person seemed not eager to share the compile or changes to make it work at all, just a video of something which people hoped to be something good. but never got to be anything but an apple with worms.

if it was, try it out, write me when you are making the cwm bootup. or download the jelly2.zip with my port from OneX, it might be a good way to start with ADB enabled at boot, so you can more easily debug or stop startup (remember to keep vold script intact though).

you also need to leave drmframework and the /vendor/drm* files alone, as the boot will check for those exists and checksum them, if it fail , phone is semi locked and kdz restore is the only way out (if the new recovery boot with adb enabled is not installed :) this can be VERY helpful)

he did put him self into harms way, as promissing alot once before and having alot of less happy users shouting because nothing was delivered, so its not a first, but a remake of 2011.

it has been seen before, DrewGaren (also here on xda, as GS3 dev now) did pretty much the same to Flyer users, got all the donations and even started begging for more, since he was unemployeed, and then when he released another persons release just changing its build.prop a little, made alot of users unhappy. but circumstance different, a locked bootloader is alot more work and yes, can probably cause bricking if you get that far.

sorry, maybe little OT, but it could get you a custom rom release or CM10 even if kholk do not deliver unlocking.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] XperiaPlayer:
Ok, what im going to do is set up a new virtual machine environment for CM building and try and build CM10 using the device_tree, vendor and kernel files from that github. If i get any further than that il post here :D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nickslg:
great good luck
[LG Optimus 4X HD] hwqdaniel:
I know it！just want a hope！
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
remember you can get my jellybean backup from here, just put it into a cwm backup folder, and restore. maybe it can help you with testing your compiled binaries and copy from adb into the system, remember "adb remount" does not work, so manually remount and change ownership on folders you wish to copy (sorry, couldnt get adb root to run normally), i believe the 2ndinit and most is in place for running it, just dont replace vold (which is now vold.bin) and check how the script works and you can easily modify the boot.tar i made to fit your needs.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Jygar:
Hi Guys,

I'm hoping LG release JB I think there is hope, Sony aren't doing the T till February so it's not all bad. To be honest I like the handset with the exception of the battery life lol.

Only had it since Monday and really didn't want an S3 as they feel cheap in the hand and have the mobo death issue. Yes the One X is a nice alternative, but the non removable parts aren't for me, plus it's taken them a fair amount of time to get JB out the door.

IF things are delayed with JB then I'll get a N4 even though my NS died after 8 months.

The good news is there has been a recent update with 10h (UK build is still 10f) so they must still be developing for it.

Matt
[LG Optimus 4X HD] :
Our phone will receive JB, don't need to hope :)

I love my handy, this was like you say the true quad core phone alternative, then the S3 has some mobo problems, and the one x can't remove the battery or put a sd card inside.

This rumours that our OX4 not receive any update in the near future is wrong, this is just LG that don't like to give any informations about software update.

And please stop asking the LG support about future updates, i'm working in a big anti virus company and I don't receive any infos too about future releases (ETA)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SimonTS:
Matt,

V10h runs perfectly on an unbranded UK phone. Just install it manually instead of waiting for the OTA.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Jygar:
I know, but I'm not that eager to start tweaking the handset yet.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] The Troll:
i said the same about dec 21st..
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nickslg:
ill second that ive been running v10h on an unbranded uk handset since it was released on here no problems with it at all
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Jygar:
Thanks guys I might do it over Xmas.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] :
seems that some ppl forget very fast what they read a day before :D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ronhoover88:
Just got this phone, jumped from S2 I really like this phone, hope we get development kick started:beer::thumbup:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Kinemi:
I really hope that kholk can do something about it, i love this phone and just thinking about how jelly bean would run on this phone... The perfect match !
[LG Optimus 4X HD] mikkis2k:
If he does.. it will be months! He sent it to the manufacturer.. he bricked the phone :) JB will come in q1 2013 i hope.. if not, I'll order a bew Nexus 4 :P
[LG Optimus 4X HD] krzychuz:
good luck with 16gb and no sd slot :p