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[Asus Transformer TF700] Diogenes5:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...ush-4-million-pixels-are-they-PenTile_id36103

Looks like the display is RGB PLS but in order to make it RGB, they had to make sacrifices so that it has a possibly below-average contrast ratio of 500:1. I've never heard of any IPS panel with a contrast ratio of lower than 1000:1 so it may just be speculation. It also seems like the screen won't get very bright either because of the PLS tech (300 nits).

I like the above-average 1300:1 contrast ratio of my infinity and the option to use Super-IPS.

That being said, everything else about the tablet is beastly.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
The article isn't very clear. They talk about the two possible displays being used based on what was shown at FPD but go on to describe a third one with no evaluative comments. We need to wait until either GSMArena, Swedroid, or AnandTech publish a detailed analysis.

The Infinity's display doesn't rank well in color reproduction. For people that use their tablets outdoors nothing will compare to Super IPS.

In going to the higher resolution panel, ASUS hasn't improved color gamut or accuracy. Things are a tad better compared to the TF Prime but not appreciably so. White point is kept at around 7500K across the brightness range. Where ASUS does deliver is in contrast ratio and brightness. In its default state the Transformer Pad Infinity can deliver, at max brightness, 460 nits. Similar to the Transformer Prime, ASUS offers a Super IPS+ mode for outdoor viewing that drives the panel and backlight to just under 700 nits. Black levels suffer a bit at the Super IPS+ setting, but otherwise the panel is actually a bit better than what ASUS used in the Transformer Prime. The result is a contrast ratio of over 1300:1, or 1135:1 in Super IPS+ mode. The brightness and contrast improvements are appreciated as is the increased pixel density. It would have been nice to see an improvement in color gamut and color accuracy with the Transformer Pad Infinity. Let's hope ASUS is saving the best for its Windows 8 tablets later this year.

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[Asus Transformer TF700] Diogenes5:
1) As I said I was skeptical myself since I've never seen an IPS display with under 1000:1 contrast.

2) As for color gamut and accuracy, Infinity is average that is true but in line with basically everyone else at 60%. Nothing comes close to the new ipad's near-100% gamut.

3) I forgot the back camera is 5 megapixel too. Another way the infinity differentiates itself (though a good 5 megapixel camera beats a bad 8 megapixel one).

I'll take a wait-and-see attitude until we can get some confirmation that the Google Nexus build quality is up to par.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
I'm curious, do you guys actually use your tablet as a camera? I think I've used it once because I always feel like an idiot. And my phone has a better camera and is always with me. Here's an example from another thread (upper right).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Diogenes5:
Yes, I've used it all the time. I don't really care about looking like an idiot as I always end up looking like one anyways :D.

The main thing is that you can easily edit the video after you take it and it's really easy to show the video to other people later. The screen displays everything at full resolution and the HDMI out also easily allows for that.

The zoom is kind of mediocre though and I think done through software.
[Asus Transformer TF700] RussellEstridge25:
Hahahaha!!! that is the perfect example of why not to use your tablet as a camera, who wants to carry around a tablet and use it as a camera? not this guy
[Asus Transformer TF700] Thats OK:
I do it's great for shooting stills and video.

Hard to beat a 10 inch viewfinder for composure.

Don't carry the tab around as an incidental shooter however.

Wish it was possible to position the lens.

I know it's a tablet not a camera...
[Asus Transformer TF700] RussellEstridge25:
I for one, CAN NOT WAIT, To get my nexus 10!!!!!!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Keion:
Just craiglisted my TF700T.

Can't beat dem GFLOPs.

Don't know how I'll survive without my consumerist sheep tablets for two weeks. We'll see.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
You're smart for selling it now; you'll get more for it than when people can actually get their hands on an N10. Other than the PR from the announcement there's been no real promotion. You'll start to see advertising closer to actual availibility. It'll also probably be stocked at the same B&M resellers that carry the N7. I got $100 more for my i9100 by selling it before the i9300 was available.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Keion:
That was my idea, sell it before the value depreciates too much.

It's what I did with my prime when I upgraded to the TF700.
[Asus Transformer TF700] RussellEstridge25:
Lucky for me, when I got my second tf700t from Amazon, the 30 day return started over :) so now I have till november 26th to return it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] htcplussony:
Reading Engadget's review. Really poor battery life. The penalty for having such a high resolution screen is a bit high right now without IGZO helping.

EDIT Anandtech's performance review is up too.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Diogenes5:
Man endgadget review is eye-opening. Most of you who sold before reading any reviews are fools.

Apparenty the infinity has better battery life and is performing better in cpu benchmarks. The mali is about 4x faster as a gpu but is powering more pixels so the difference is somewhat mitigated.

The contrast ratio is also below average at 740. Brightness is average at 350. Infinity has 1300:1 contrast and 600 nits brightness in ips+. The endgadget reviewer explicitly states they'd rather have the screen of the infinity.

One of the biggest things putting me on the edge was battery life. Apparently the nexus 10 has worse battery life because of all the pixels. I really do think 1920x1200 is the best resolution, anything more is pointless given print and media files available.

The appeal of the nexus 10 to me now is the ram (my nexus 10 floats only 100-200 mb with my 8 apex screens full of widgets), the dual-band wifi, and the obvious potential of performance gains through modding. The infinity only became an absolute beast due to the community and gained 20% speed with fixed io issues with microsd mounting.

Parting words from endgadget:

"At under $400, the Nexus 10 is a compelling package, but despite that display it can't quite muster best-in-class performances across the charts. In fact, other than a relative lack of resolution (1,920 x 1,200 vs. this guy's 2,560 x 1,600) the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 is, we think, an overall better package. It's thinner, lighter, faster, has a much better camera, offers better battery life (particularly if you opt for the keyboard dock) and, frankly, we'd take the brightness and contrast of that 600nit, Super IPS+ panel over this one with its extra pixels."
[Asus Transformer TF700] wctaylor79:
Wow so review are in. Nexus 10 will be a beast, but good to see the 700 hanging in there. Makes me feel better about unlocking earlier this week and running some cm10 and Clean rom . It really did make this thing what it should have been. (sad it took that to do it) I wish the best to the nexus 10 people though. It will be very nice and will be a great tablet to have. If I had the extra money I would jump all over it, but for now going to enjoy my 700 more. :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Hmm, sounds like the Nexus 10 is not such a "beast" after all... It can't even keep up with a *stock* TF700 apparently... Imagine what it would be compared to a CleanROM TF700! :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] puff8stuff:
Or imagine what a fully optimized N10 will be able to do
[Asus Transformer TF700] Diogenes5:
I incorporated data from Anandtech's preliminary review. The display is pretty mediocre aside from the resolution. It's RGB stripe thank god but has pretty mediocre contrast at 740 accoding to anandtech. Brightness was also in the Anandtech review. Contrast is pretty important for those of us also using our tablets as a reading device. Also the raw number of pixels the N10 has will make its battery life short. That's just the tradeoff involved.

I disagree that the $399 version will necessarily pilfer sales from other hi-end android tablets. There's still no removable storage, and the nexus 10 will have worse features in certain areas. The Infinity has a lot of differentiation with its dock, microsd slot, super-ips mode, better camera, etc. What it will definitely do is grow the market. There are many casual users that will be attracted to the Nexus 10 driving platform adoption and increasing the install base of android tablets for app-makers.

That will help all tablet owners.

TBH, if not for clean-rom and data2sd mount I would probably have gotten an N10, but as it is, I'm happy with my transformer.

And lets not compare the 16gb Nexus 10 to the 32gb Transformer Prime. Comparing the 32gb model is fairer. I think most people on XDA know that a 2560x1600 display CANNOT be well-served by only 16gb of storage. Only very casual users will be able to pull that off.

Congrats to all those who decide to get one. Welcome to the android tablet family (again for those who sell your TF700's)
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Hmm, I wonder why the TF700 is missing from 90% of those benchmarks? Obviously, they were comparing the TF700 with the N10 (at least in the battery category). Why not include the other results? Seems like they are picking and choosing why devices to compare it against depending on what test they are running...

The battery tests are obviously very dependent on how they are testing it - that's one one type of benchmark will show that the TF700 battery lasts longer and the other will show that the N10 lasts longer. Who's to say which is the more "real life" comparison.

Regardless, besides benchmarks, it will be interesting to see what actual users have to say. The Engadget folks sure didn't seem too impressed, that's for sure. Time will tell I guess...
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
Non-Apple high-end tablets don't sell; at least historically. So the N10 will either expand the rather small market for $399+ Android tablets or take share away from those already on the market. The Q2 stats are interesting because the Prime was the highest spec'd tablet available sporting all those unique features you mentioned; Samsung's offerings were the OG G-Tab’s and the G-Tab 2's. In spite of all Asus' unique features the public wasn't swayed and Samsung outsold Asus nearly 4:1 with 9.2% and 2.8% market share respectively. Asus' CEO said they shipped 2.3MM tablets In the third quarter on their recent earnings call. If the run rate of the N7 is 1MM a month as he previously quoted, that means almost all of their tablet sales are the N7 and that the Q1 and Q2 10.1" volumes are either the same or have fallen with both the TF300 and TF700 being widely available. So Asus' $199 tablet is selling over three times faster than their $399+ tablets. They've also said they expect to ship 10MM tablets in 2013 (not sure if that includes W8 tablets). Apple shipped 17MM in Q2 of this year.

The biggest problem for Android at the high-end is that for the same money people can buy an iPad. And they are. And this holiday season they have even more iPads to choose from. W8 tablets are going to make things even more complicated. It can increase the public's appetite for tablets, steal share from Apple, or steal share from Android. Analysts that follow the industry feel it'll mostly be the latter; with or without the N10. Holiday sales (Q4) numbers should tell an interesting story. With very competitive pricing on the N7 at the low-end and N10 at the high-end if Android tablets don’t grow market share in the quarter, or worse, lose market share to W8 while Apple maintains or gains, that’s going to set the tone for the future and you'll see a lot of manufacturers bailing on high-end Android tablets and focusing their resources where they can get a better return.
[Asus Transformer TF700] golfinggino:
people will buy the cheaper products first that is obvious, most people are cheap !!!! the nexus 7 is a great device i own 3 of them to test out different roms / kernels, i dont like apple products but the build quality is very good, i own the asus infinty / dock i bought it the day it was released in canada which is now the best tablet i currently own ( rooted / unlocked running paranoidndroid and custom kernel - stock on this tablet is crap ) it is basically the same speed now as the nexus 7 also unlocked / rooted / paranoidandroid / custom kernel ) but with a bigger higher resolution screen, i will check out the nexus 10 when it hits the stores and if the screen is that much better i will certainly buy it, samsung and asus are my first choice of brands so it will be hard to decide but i will probably end up owning both the infinty and the nexus 10
[Asus Transformer TF700] Diogenes5:
You make a lot of good points but you only pass quickly over a few things. For one, samsung does outsell Asus. I feel that is mainly because of brand-name recognition. Secondly even if they sell a lot of nexus 7, smaller tablets are lower margin in general. The revenue is much less and the COM is not that much cheaper. That is why apple's shares are going down. The ipad mini will pilfer ipad sales and hurt Apple's margins. Even if they sell relatively few infinities, its still profitable.

I don't think the thought process in buying is, "I have money therefore ipad." or "I am poor, therefore Android." People buy an ipad because it established the market and has massive brand recognition. People buy an asus because they are hardcore users and want the best specs.

THe Nexus 10 is an important android milestone. A lot of people will buy the 16gb version. They will get a lot of casual fans interested in android tablets and their tastes will evolve. I came from an ipad because I was sick of the closed system and not being able to do things a power user needs to do like multitask. I also want touch Windows. I don't think there was ever a windows device I found really joyous to use. The market will always be there especially with mass adoption of android phones (3:1 against apple now).
[Asus Transformer TF700] mike216:
Hell no! Need sd and build quality. I'm a huge Samsung fan but like to get away from plastic when I can. It's got a little more ppi and new OS, other then that there's nothing to make me want to give this up

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Great points! Not to get to much of topic but was so surprised that Apple has the fan boys that will pay that kind of money for a 7" with last year's specs. The N10 should slaughter that if folks are willing to shell out a measly 50$ for a world of difference

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I feel better! Thanks champ. This monster is a lean machine. I love the build quality and design. They nailed it, definitely the best designed tablet made thus far.

I'm running cm10 and tried PA and both are right on point. I can't wait until time goes by. More buy the tablet and development makes this an amazing experience. We have cutting edge specs and XDA will bring cutting edge code!

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I'm going to be honest. I was extremely disappointed my first few hours with it. Two weeks later and an addition of Cm10 and clean rom I'm very pleased by the progress. I now have no buyers remorse even after reading about the N10. I actually feel much better knowing the next big thing may not be bigger. I guess if your marketing isn't your top priority you have to offer more for the same money. Don't you just love competition. Without apple and Google you wouldn't have a super computer in your pocket
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ReapersDeath:
So my friends, I believe its time for a Jelly Bean benchmark thread! The REAL Stock JB.

Before JB we where just a sliver past the HTC ONE X. Now we pass it by quite a lot!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] phyba:
First run on both
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] || Acer ||:
Hmm not bad

Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S III
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] lexusmike:
Try linpack. I'm getting some of the highest scores ever. 309 is my highest and it was something like only 180 devices scored higher.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] gtuansdiamm:
We don't need so many benchmark threads

They are irrelevant anyways
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] flashin_rom_diva81:
Really just trying to get my 10 posts anywhere I can.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] rt-hemiboy:
Reallyy???
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] gtpdjw:
LJ7 with KT 747 kernel​

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] epic4GEE:
Is that at 2106mhz? If so about a spittin image of mine.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] gtpdjw:
Yes sir lol crank it up. I just flashed about 1 hour ago so I will do another one tomorrow after the kernel settles in.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] budde2:
JB way better than ICS
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mababer1:
Updated it last night..
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] gtpdjw:
looking good
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] budde2:
Wow are you stock kernel or custom them scores are amazing
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] gtpdjw:
KT-747 custom kernel for JB touchwiz
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] budde2:
Going to have to check out how is batter life? If you don't mind me asking
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] gtpdjw:
Just flashed the kernel yesterday keep that in mind here is what it is right now.​

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] budde2:
Not bad 8hr and over 40% that's a few hrs less than what I'm getting on stock going to have flash and give a run. Thanks
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] spdrasr3:
Highly OC w/additional voltage almost hit 7000 in Quadrant, vr I/O, performance gov
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] AwesomeEvo:
Wow I was speechless.Lol I was using stock Rom and ktoon jb kernel
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] epic4GEE:
Lmao....dude you just increased the earths rotation....we're all doomed now:silly:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] AwesomeEvo:
I know it was just memory thing on the quadrant test but.to be honest I used superbad nd clocked at the highest speed in sio mode

Either way isn't that to high?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] budde2:
Just did this one last night and got my second highest score. 100% stock
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] brandondist:
What the heck man it got worse :(
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] budde2:
Can I get a link for this kernel please can't find it

Never mind found it this kernel is not able to be over clocked
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] gtpdjw:
Yes you can here​
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] budde2:
Found that thanks lol
[Motorola Droid RAZR] PiX3L-_-ViRu5:
I was wondering is it possible to root the Droid Razr without the use of a PC? I ask this question cause I don't own a PC and I am fairly new to this setup. So if anyone can answer this for me I would greatly appreciate it.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] gp126904:
As far as I know it is not possible to root without the use of a computer. I believe you must use an unlock utility to gain root access and therefore would need the use of a computer. The process isnt long at all so maybe a friend could let you run the utility on his computer?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DualJoe:
Hi,

i've downgraded from HC to FlyHigh/GB successfully. Now i want to update hboot and radio to latest version.

I've downgraded HBOOT from 1.11.0011 to 1.10.0000 with official O2 RUU (hboot 1.07) and then this (1.10.0000), exploited S-OFF and want to re-update HBOOT to 1.11.0011 again. Does S-OFF remain active and is it compatible to Gingerbread?

2) What's the latest radio.img? The official Gingerbread O2/Germany RUU from xda RUU archive contains HBOOT 1.07. I think the radio is that old as well.

Ok, latest radio seems to be '3822.10.08.07_M' and it is available in 'RUU_Flyer_HC_S_HTC_TUR_3.62.468.1_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.07_M_release_229074_signed.exe'. Will test that... Edit2: Works.. HowTo: Run the above exe. Wait until it has been initialized completely. Fish the rom.zip out of your temp folder (usually c:\windows\temp i think), extract the radio.img and flash it with 'fastboot.exe flash radio radio.img'.

Edit1: Weird.. i'm on HBOOT 6.10.1002 now. Did revolutionary done this? If so, i guess updating hboot isn't possible without losing S-OFF, correct?

My current hboot screen:

-Revolutionary-

FLYER PVT SHIP S-OFF RL

HBOOT-6.10.1002

MICROP-0850

RADIO-3822.10.08.07_M

eMMC-boot

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[RAZR HD General] recDNA:
If so.... A cool app for the unrooted Maxx HD would be one to simply make the navigation bar and the notification bars transparent on home screens so that our 4.7 inch screens actually LOOK like 4.7 inch screens! I'd pay a buck for that!
[RAZR HD General] robstunner:
Highly doubt that's even possible unrooted
[RAZR HD General] Youngunn2008:
Only way that's possible is by editing the SystemUI and framework files. Also smali java edits for transparent notification bar. That's not an app that's system level edits ... def need root.
[RAZR HD General] recDNA:
On support forums Motorola rep claimed shutting off nav bar entirely or making it transparent can both be done by app developers for unrooted hd. I did not ask about notification bar.

He cited viewing videos takes out both bars
[RAZR HD General] Youngunn2008:
U can have an app that will control edits made to code. But I have cracked open sysui files etc its where that stuff lives. And also I've had reps tell me some off the wall stuff so... lol
[RAZR HD General] recDNA:
Well, like A/R radio covers up notifier bar when on so it can be done in an app... Why not a browser like go browser or.... YourBrowser?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] morph3k:
Back when I had a droid incredible (a long time ago, havent used a droid since) i used to have an app to download ringtones for free. is an app like that still around?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jethro650:
They are a few, I use Zedge off the play store.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mrhaley30705:
I use zedge too. Also great for wallpaper and notification tones.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dayv:
Ringtone maker - free in the play store
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peterpandemic:
I just bought an i9300 locked to Orange UK. I want to use my o2 UK sim card with it. had to transfer to a micro sim, which went fine and new sim works ok in old phone with adaptor.

first i tried an app called GalaxSimUnlock. This looked like it had done the job, but i couldnt connect to o2. Restored EFS back to original state. I then decided to go with a true unlock via one of those gsm companies, and they sent me a code. Code was accepted, i get bars of signal, but no network connectivity. it says "Unable to connect. Try later" when i try to connect to o2.

My IMEI looks good (353xxxxxxxxx080) but i just cant get on o2. Any ideas where i can go next?

Baseband version is i9300XXLFB, rooted with CF6.4
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circuit89:
Remove your IMEI from the post. It's supposed to be confidential. Also as for your connectivity problems, try adjusting the APN settings. Can you make a call or text people?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jb.traveller:
Should you print your IMEI number?

circuit 89 you beat me to it.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circuit89:
Lol
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peterpandemic:
thought the IMEI might be important. "Not registered on network" when i try to call, texts don't get sent. i did check AP settings with what's on the o2 site and it looked good. will look for more to try
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peterpandemic:
tried using APN settings from ny old phone but still no good. put sim back in old phone to make sure its ok and it is. This should work right? when you get a valid unlock code the phone should then take any sim... right?