yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
if i used IDA compiler for this, i would for sure provide better readable output. this is just bytes which can been seen in a hex editor, no need for IDA binary show here.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
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new info: some people on Polish forum found out that they had something like 'unregistered device' when they checked the update availability. As i remember, somethin' like that was also in the past with v10h, what u guys think?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] friartuckme:
isnt that when they have a version that has not been released for there country. like they have installed v10H when its only V10F that is released in there country.possible im wrong in which case i apologise
[LG Optimus 4X HD] profyler:
exactly.

this only means that he chjanged the firmware to another one, that is not where the phone was originaly bought.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
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Nope, they hadn't used kdz flashing.

@edit HEY! I need someone from Netherlands, whether He / She could talk to LG in that country and ask about closer date of Jelly Bean release. They already knew about JB update in Q1 (and LG OS confirmed it soon then), so maybe they know somethin' now too?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] tnsantos:
I think it was a problem on LG's servers. I also got this message when I tried to update two days ago. My ROM is v10c brazilian.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Tim_Pan:
i don't think this info is useful.

i ever got the error.and updates would go on after i wiped the phone.

i think it have something to do with the cache.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] pgergo:
Pro primo: That thing looks a bit off-topic. /Ok, the thread is dying slowly anyway/

Pro secundo: Here in Hungary, a lot of 4x users encountered the same problem, and the reason /probably in all cases/ was that their devices are off-region /i.e. non-european/, primarily Taiwanese/CWT/ and from the Emirates/ARE/. They can't flash updates OTA, only via .kdz.

Btw. those who own devices meant to be in Europe /regardless of wich country/ didn't face this problem.

Question: If /when :fingers-crossed: / the bootloader will be opened, but /at least in the first round/ only for "Europe Open"/NEU/ devices, could that mean that the off-region phones won't/can't be unlocked, since their IMEIs are registered in an other region?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] AlderCass:
Yikes I really hope not! Even though I'm European and flashed the euro_open 10H I bought the phone on eBay from Taiwan so not a European IMEI... :eek:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Vosetal:
I think that bootloader is a part of rom, so when we flash new rom new bootloader will be installed too. As I undestand "locked" bootloader validates system files using some secret algorithm before system loads.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
i think a better question can be,

- what is a rom?

- what is a bootloader?

- what is system files?

- what is locking?

and finally what is unlocking meant to mean for regular users.

bootloader open a kernel and ramdisk to start the linux system using its system files and any change to the linux kernel and its ramdisk is locked, meaning you cannot change how it loads system files. so when bootloader checks for locked ramdisk and kernel, no system files are checked and no bootloader is booted from system files at all since its starting your operating system before its found.

a rom is basically ReadOnlyMemory and can be anything you want it to be, and here comes the problem with users making alot into a small thing called bits and bytes.

im sure that was just a confusing as having bootloaders within locked systems in a rom which has bootloader installed when you flash the kdz :)

unlocking is freedom, how its done is for now unknown, but based on facts from previous Tegra3 platforms, its all about a code you use to open it or an app extracting and making it possible. that app can be part of the new JB update as an system application which will help developers unlock the freedom of the device, but with LG claiming you brake their warranty on the device.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Vosetal:
I have a small experience from long long time ago with boot block on Amiga (yes it is very long long time ago). Boot block had to contain first the few initial characters (something like AMIGADOS), then our code, then the checksum was calculated differently from the other blocks. So if you wanted to make a custom boot block but had to follow this rules.

So I guess if you want to make a custom boot partition for our phone you would have to follow some LG's rules that are more complicated than those above ( with encryption and who knows what else).

So can we conclude that unlocking the bootloader is not related to the JB, but actually LG needs to share that "rules" how to make custom bootloader.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
not a conclusion.. its Nvidia and how they make the tegra3 SoC and then what changes LG apply to make security.

btw, AmigaDOS identified by is DOS! was nothing but an bootcheck to see if it was valid, not to compare at all with todays bootloaders. but they do have something similar on boot/recovery with ANDROID! in the header of the partition, but not really a security issue, as anyone can write that without security problems.

i already discussed the unlocking term with kholk and there's alot more to bootloader than formal unlocks provided in code, if you want 100% developer friendly device, they need to provide source code which is currently under NDA which means they get legal activities started when they publish the closed source.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] friartuckme:
good morning dexter_nlb

another question from me which is slightly off topic but kind of relates to the thread, with some lg's having different chipsets like the l7 has snapdragon and we have tegra 3, does having different chips actually effect how the process is done with how the bootloader and sbk work, (is that part the same structure wise)

sorry if its a stupid question, im just trying to learn/understand
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
yes , its very different for each.

recently the OMAP8830 got hacked due to certs got distributed for devs, but bootloader and flashing and hijacking "apx" mode as known on tegra3 works very different and protocol software changes too.

anyways security differs on those different platforms alot, so not even cross compiling :) is making any source work, its all about coding different functions to utilize it.

generic OS calls with ARM processors is one thing, but the security is built into the chipset. thats why Tegra3 is currently not cracked/hacked on ANY platform but only semi-opened by vendors like HTC with devunlock.com website, and asus with their app which do no longer work etc.. hardware keys are still not removed completely.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] BartimaeusPT:
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Is there any oficial form of comunication reviling the bootloader unlock ?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nbock97:
found something interesting for LG L7

Hey guys,

first I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this but it has something to do with the bootloader & the unlock of it! I also don't know if it's useful or just **** :confused:

well, I did look up for CWM for LG L7, because a friend has a L7 and he wants flash a zip (CWM needed), but he had only root no CWM so he asked me how he can use this zip -> I searched for CWM for L7 and found that

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38231332&postcount=2230

I thought LG L7 has also this hard bootloader from LG so I googled it and found this petition for unlock the bootloader on L7

http://www.change.org/petitions/lg-...locking-the-bootloader-of-the-lg-optimus-p700

so I think someone found a way to unlock the Lg L7 bootloader (point 3 in the tutorial) and I don't know but maybe it's the same lock as on 4X HD and if someone posted it before I'm sorry I didn't read the whole thread!

I hope this will help in someway, so that'll get our bootloader also unlocked ( I know LG announced it but it's LG and nobody knows if it will really come in Q1 2013 (expect LG))
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
although its for snapdragon cpu, i believe the bootloader and its appsboot is configured the same, so something similar might exist on our tegra3 mobile, but problem might be that the partition is now available as on snapdragon.

at least i havent found something similar, and this is certainly not flashable for our model
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nbock97:
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ok I did never thought that it's flashable for our device because I don't know much about this topic but I can imagine that a 1 ghz singlecore device and our beast can't be equal in development:) I just thought maybe LG used similar security "tools" to lock the bootloader so maybe it helps... pitty :( I wanna have that unlocked bootloader - now grrrr :p
[LG Optimus 4X HD] mastershefis:
Tegra3 has nothing to do with Qualcomm MSM7227A Snapdragon. It's a different chipset and different way to unlock ours and theirs.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
uboot is the same no matter which platform you work with, just like a kernel+ramdisk is visually built the same way, although kernel code works differently. the ramdisk scripts is very much like the one we got on arm which people can use on x64 or other platforms.

so his point is justified, if the uboot triggers the same code on LG mobile the same way on all their platforms uing structured data areas, someone might be able to find the highend code which is the important part, and whatever low level code actually communicate with the SoC is different, we do not really care.

so basically if LG uses the same uboot for some verification and this one represent a unlocked edition it might just give a hint on how to get around it.

but yes, chipsets makes security works very differently and as i previously wrote, hijacking it also is very different due to chipset difference.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] BartimaeusPT:
Re: [UNLOCK SOON!] Bootloader unlock bounty

Só no unlock yet :(
[LG Optimus 4X HD] mirujack41:
gotta wait Jellybean update only we can get the BL unlocked by LG officially:)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] BartimaeusPT:
Re: [UNLOCK SOON!] Bootloader unlock bounty

Is there any official statement or is just an e-mail??

If there isn't any communication on official site or internal com they can very well say, we are sorry but no unlock.....
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
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Both.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] BartimaeusPT:
Can you post the link on the main post???

Tks =)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-Optimus-4X-HD-getting-Jelly-Bean-update-in-Q1-2013_id39381

http://www.smartphenom.com/2012/12/android-41-jelly-bean-for-lg-p880-4x-hd.html

Oh, and seems like we will get 4.1.2 in few days. ;)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] JAsko_san:
Well those are good news - I suppose :laugh:

:D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] theofficialpimp:
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Lets all pray together that hopefully it is true
[LG Optimus 4X HD] juanacevedo:
Re: [UNLOCK SOON!] Bootloader unlock bounty

Those articles are from the beginning of the month. There's more articles stating that it's the 1st half of the year
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
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^ nope, those are for Asia not Europe.

@down yup
[LG Optimus 4X HD] someth1ng:
I got a global version of the phone - bought in Australia. Reckon it can still unlock its bootloader using the EUR kdz?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] alekthefirst:
Re: [UNLOCK SOON!] Bootloader unlock bounty

As dexter_nlb has said. The unlock method is probably on LG`s website or it is released as a tool or something. Where you have to agree to warranty-loss
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
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Nope. I think it will be like in P990 (2X), they gave new bootloader with new version of firmware. And that new bootloader is unlockable via nvflash or somethin'.. I haven't read about that. Whatever, that won't be a method after we lose warranty.

@down yep, somethin' like that. They will just open the way to unlock it. Or they'll do somethin' that we don't know about for now.

The question is, how it will be if they will do like it was with 2X? nvflash didn't work with our phone, it will be suddenly start working? o.o

Anyway, if the new bootloader will be attached to V20A .kdz, then You, Dexter will be able to unlock our phone? 'cause kholk as we know won't do it, we have to wait to His 'recovery' :(
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
i believe i am correct, if you believe that "something or nvflash" is the provided LG solution to unlock the device, This is similar to an App or a partition that unlocks it. Options are many, but an external program (app / nvflash / kdz flasher ) will be the solution to unlock. i do not think OTA update alone will open it.

L7 with a different chipset, still got it opened by flashing a partition with bootloader, so lg do not make it easy.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] BartimaeusPT:
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Unlock.... :D:D:D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38810529
[LG Optimus 4X HD] timon12:
this does not work.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] mfsr98:
Re: [UNLOCK SOON!] Bootloader unlock bounty

Obviously fake.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] igorstoja83:
Bootloadef is finaly unlocked :D:D:D:D:D check this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2180138 and this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2143311&page=136
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
bootloader for p880 is finally unlocked.

i report and close this thread now :D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Subhajitdas298:
Say 'Beast unleashed'... hurray.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] faisal222:
Step by step guide to unlock Bootloader should be Includded in the INDEX GUIDE..can someone do it ? Things should be organized..it will prevent from multiple same threads i think:confused:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] kangi26:
Bootloader is unlocked

Closed per OP's request
[LG Optimus 4X HD] webfreak1364:
The only problem is that I'm younger than 18 so I don't have so much money, and my parents don't allow me to make a paypal-acc.

So maybe think about that before you say that that isn't even a joke. Sure I'd able to donate more, but I can't promise that I have the money in that moment when the bootloader gets unlocked.

Ao sorry for my stupid idea that maybe 10€ + the fee for the transfer are more helpful than nothing -.-

When I say 10€ then the dev would get 10€ and not 2€.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
no problem, but you need to be 18 to do international transfers , sending money out of the country. and secondly, for Denmark we pay onetime fee for reception no matter if you pay all costs at your end. so you offer a more expensive solution than a onetime payment using paypal if i was the reciever. you should by now understand why its important to keep using paypal in such cases and not suggest alternatives.

And remember donations are a free choice and comes with no demands and no expectations but the hope that it shows appreciation.

doing demands and workaround to offer money makes it all more complex than needed and waste of time.

if i gave redcross donations of €25, i would expect nothing back but hoping someone will appreciate the thought at the other end. less good example but pretty much the same.

if i bought a mobile from LG, i would have expectations and support etc, but if i didnt get it, next time i buy something else, very different.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] webfreak1364:
In my country also people under 18 can have an account by a bank, with that you can do everything like the ones of adults, but they are free.

I also sended money out of the country.

And my mother said (and she has to know it, she's an accountant) there's a way, that I would pay all fees...

Sure it's more expensive for me, but if I'm right, I can't make a paypal-acc, because I'm too young. if I'm wrong then please say me this, because if I'm allowed by paypal I'd make one.

Sorry for tipping mistakes, I've no time to get to my PC at the moment, so I have to use my tablet.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] muellersmattes:
You might as well ask an older friend or relative to do the transfer for you. That would be the easiest soulution. Or, if you don't know anyone who is older than 18, send it to one of the other donators who is from your country and he can then send it for you. Anyway, it'll only be applicable if someone manages to unlock the bootloader.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] heahmad:
start sending PM to other developer for sure they don't now about this
[LG Optimus 4X HD] saptemai:
10€, via paypal
[LG Optimus 4X HD] webfreak1364:
I'll try to organise something when it's time for it.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nomaj:
donation

I don't have paypal i my country - but I'm willing to help with 15e by wire transfer or similar.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] coux:
15eu here using paypal :cyclops:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
Has anyone in here already contacted KHOLK? Cos I just did as well...let's just hope he agrees to take on the challenge.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Caner092:
I hope you can unlock your phones and discover the wonderful world of Android. I can't understand LG and Motofail !!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
yep, no reply.. can u send him a pm too?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
Yah I already did too.

---------- Post added at 11:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:07 PM ----------

I think we're all seasoned veterans here lol. That's why we chose to go with this beasty phone! Of course without knowing about the locked boot loader. But I have no regrets. This phone is still a beast.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] razerblade17:
Any good news??
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
'official way' how about unofficial way? :D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] heahmad:
i hope so :laugh:

but we need "the one" :fingers-crossed: hope we will find him soon.

i have been reading about bootloader and the unlocking method for different devices for 3 week now

but no luck to figure out a way to help us.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] kholk:
I've received multiple PMs from various users from there.

Two of the users who talked about the 4XHD lock "problem" (reas0n and Fishweb74) said that someone here wants to donate the device.

I'll repeat here what I said to everyone who PM'ed me about the Optimus 4X HD and the bootloader unlock.

So. I'm not sure this can be done. Don't expect kexec on 4XHD (Tegra 3!): it would require something like 6 months of development (or even more) and...well...you know, it's not even a clean solution and I can't stay there 12hrs a day because I also have to study for the university.

Anyway.

Making this clear: I can't tell you "it can be done, I can do it" or "it can't be done, I can't do it, it's impossible".

The only way to verify that, at least for me, implies having a device in my hands so that I can examine and "debug".

Also, I admit that I would also be happy to take this new "challenge".

By the way:

If you want to donate a device to me, I want you all to know those things (bad experiences from the past, guys..):

1. I may unlock it

2. I may fail

3. I may brick it permanently while trying

4. I may create a nuclear explosion that may wipe the world while unlocking the device.

Sorry, I don't want to seem unpleasant because, in reality, I'm absolutely not.

It's just that I don't want flames and bad words on me if I won't succeed or if something bad will happen.

I think I said everything I should...

Let me know your decision.

The EternityProject Team Manager & Main Developer,

--kholk
[LG Optimus 4X HD] darryd:
guys, lg released LG 2x ICS rom with locked bootloader, people on this o2x forum need one day to unlock this...maybe somebody ask they to unlocked our bootloader...check this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1955212
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
Hey, what about a jb leaker to us, would u ask OP whether it's possible?

Thanks for Your post, kholk, i'll send u a pm soon and hope donators'll give u cash for 4X then.

By the way, if anyone here has a developer phone with old system (v08 or..) please introduce yourself here, maybe that phone'd be very usefull to find a solution
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
DEAR DONATORS!

http://www.eternityproject.eu/donate/goal-2-lg-optimus-4x-hd-research/

Here's the link to donate the money to kholk from Eternity Project.

410euros are needed.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] kholk:
As said on the PM, thanks for your assistance.

I've sent to you various links, including:

1. Fundraising link

2. Expansys page with the best price of the phone that can be found for Italy.

Feel free to distribute the informations I gave you to the community if required.

P.S.: It's not dollars! It's EURO! :P

The EternityProject Team Manager & Main Developer,

--kholk
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
Yeah yeah sorry, i've already edited my post :D

And thanks for Your (future) support :D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] kholk:
No problem. I just wanted to make it clear, you know the conversion rates between EURO and USD....

By the way, first donation received.

Thanks to everyone involved!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] muellersmattes:
Thank you for taking on that challenge. I suggest you also have a look at prices in other european countries, it's down to 350€ now here in germany. Even with the shipping to italy it should still be a bit cheaper. Which means you can start earlier, and if you succeed it's more money left from the bounty :p
[LG Optimus 4X HD] pjgowtham:
This s a friend f u from defy forum..contact quarx..he might help u with bl unlock.:)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] kholk:
@muellersmattes

I usually search out of Italy too!

Just see, 350 euros in Germany, then shipping to Italy would be at least 20 euros. That would be 370 euros.

Now, yeah, it would be good, as it would cost -40Euros, but I still think it's better to buy in Italy because here the warranty is valid only if the product has been bought on the italian market.

That means that if I receive a faulty product from any other country, I would be f*cked.

I've already had that experience with a Motorola RAZR.... it was pretty painful!

...That's why I prefer to buy in Italy.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] muellersmattes:
Well, I didn't know that. I thougt it's 2 years regardless of where you bought it. If it's like that in italy I can fully understand that you'd rather buy it there.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dfreake:
goodluck, you need it:)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
correct, LG got european warranty on all their products, incl. mobile. its just a matter of contacting LG directly, if such an event occur.

Motorola on the other hand did not (still do not).

but maybe for just €40, i would not waste the energy.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] :
never mind :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] lenny.chem.dat:
Just sent 30€ to kholk via PayPal.

I hope you collect the money for the Phone. And Good Luck with all hacking attempts!

I'll keep my fingers crossed!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] phynix5800:
I donated as well - good luck kholk!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Bud Cord:
I just donated 10 EUR.

I'll pay another 10 EUR, when the bootloader ist fully unlocked.

Thanks in advance for your work! :good:

An annoying price difference:

Amazon Italy: http://www.amazon.it/LG-Optimus-Display-Pollici-Colore/dp/B008J1DBSA EUR 399,98

Amazon Germany: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B007UN4EI4 EUR 347,69
[LG Optimus 4X HD] profyler:
Didnt agree to donate until the unlock, but donated anyway =)

will donate more if it gets unlocked.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] muellersmattes:
I just had a look, shipping from Amazon Germany to Italy is 4,25€ +1,50/kg. As the phone weighs less that 1kg, it will most probably be 5,75€. So 353€ vs. 400€. If the warranty is no problem (as Dexter stated), i'd still choose the german one.

And I just donated 10€. Didn't want to in the first place, but after all it's not that much and I appreciate that you don't promise us anything. Wish you the best luck, nevertheless.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
€72.69 after few hours, You guys are damn fast :D keep going and soon we'll reach the goal
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ToniTheKillah:
That's fast.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] stigb1974:
would've been faster from me as well, but i have recently changed credit card and had entered wrong expiry date....:p
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Mcdomms:
Donated 10€ as well. I hope we'll get this beast unlocked!! Good luck

:fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] gavhall:
Just donated 30euro.......fingers crossed........:cyclops:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] jest osebno:
Donated 10€.

Good luck. :good: