yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
1) I doubt any of the people answering emails know what they are talking about (at any company).

2) Not having an app is irrelevant. The Nexus7 doesn't come with a camera app either, but you can install one and use it.

Until someone (who knows what they are doing) gets one and tries, I doubt we will know.
[Nexus 7 General] alen_gh:
there is no doupt Voice calls are posible on 3G Nexus 7, i'll get it in few days with Voice calls and SMS option in my 3G pack
[Nexus 7 General] xtian63:
Magic jack app

if you have an existing Magic Jack account with a Magic Jack Device(USB or ETHERNET) then your lucky just install Magic Jack's App on any Android and use your Magic Jack account, the one you use with the device with 10 digit number (xxx)xxx-xxxx not the *01 number and you can send and receive Calls within the US for FREE

but if you dont have an actual Magic Jack then you can get one for $39, im in ASIA and i get calls from CANADA and the US
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
GrooveIP + Google Voice works great on my N7 through wifi. I suspect it would be the same on 3G.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
People seem to be missing the point.

Of course VoIP type apps will work. They work on the non-3G models. As long as the 3G provider doesn't try and block them (which is hard to impossible) and the quality of service is good enough, then you can use Vonage/GoogleVoice/SIP Providers/Magicjack/etc. But that isn't the question.

The question was, if you get service that includes a VOICE package (ie: the T-Mobile $30 unlimited data + 100 minutes voice prepaid plan), can you install and use a standard android dialer app and make phone calls USING the carrier's voice network.
[Nexus 7 General] iso1600:
i doubt it'll have an actual Voice radio- most likely data only.
[Nexus 7 General] decemberpei:
updates from google customer support:

`The N7 3G just provides data connection capability and does not support voice calls. However, like I mentioned in my previous email, you can make a voice over IP call such as for example via Skype. I hope that answered your*question.`
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
Again, while this very well might be the case (and is certainly likely), I don't believe it until I see it. It all comes down to the hardware being used.
[Nexus 7 General] the great heisenberg:
I was wondering if that $30 t-mobile plan would apply to tablets.It would be really sweet if it did. Any word on what type of Sim Card the HSPA+ model uses?
[Nexus 7 General] Ydnaroo:
It uses a microSIM. Got mine waiting. :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 7 General] carstairs:
I've been thinking about my mobile devices a fair bit lately and have realized just how much redundancy I have. Sold off my Kindle Fire and am staring at a Galaxy Nexus that's about to take a nosedive in value. Tempted to pawn it for a 3G Nexus 7 if it's practical to use for phone calls (which I almost never use, but I need it to be possible). Google Voice messaging is easy, it's the calling part that'd be more difficult. Knowing how Groove IP and whatnot work on the GN, I'd hope that it's alright (and there's no problems not integrating with the stock dialer when there isn't one!), but I'll have to see.
[Nexus 7 General] zoum79:
So do we have a final verdict on this, does the 3G N7 have the hardware needed to make cellular phone calls or not? If yes, what is the workaround to activate this function?
[Nexus 7 General] jamesd86:
It was released today, let people get the device in hand.
[Nexus 7 General] DominatingSystem:
Would it be possible to send text messages ?

That would be awesome...
[Nexus 7 General] compact_bijou:
This is why a dedicated N7 3G Discussion Forum and a dedicated N73G Dev forum is needed.
[Nexus 7 General] dwheadstone:
Where was it released ?
[Nexus 7 General] compact_bijou:
And so it begins. Stupid questions ........... INCOMING!!!!!!!

Sent from my sodastream
[Nexus 7 General] kRt_uK:
Better if you stay as a reader in the forum.
[Nexus 7 General] flicnflack:
This seems quite interesting

http://cjix.info/blog/misc/carrier-programming-on-cdma-android-phones/

even though it is relating to cdma

The Carrier configuration in the Android OS

ie

These settings apply to phone calls. If one adopts the Sprint configuration on a Verizon Wireless phone, for example, the phone would ring very briefly on a call, but would be unable to actually make or receive calls

.
[Nexus 7 General] Clownfishy:
Just been reading the development thread setup for this. It never ceases to amaze me how these developer guys just get stuck straight into this stuff.......amazing.......just love reading their posts even if I have no/little idea what they are talking about!

Let's hope they keep going on this. I for one am holding off buying a nexus 4 as if this works, I am going for the nexus 7 3g :)
[Nexus 7 General] nfaust01:
Seems like this thread has halted with things to try. Does anyone know of a dev that could possibly take a look? I really think we just need a radio flash plus the framework-res hacks and it should work. But i am not a android dev so cant really help. Maybe someone with custom radio experience could chime in.
[Nexus 7 General] Polarfuchs:
There's this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2025377

There seems some progress by Synman
[Nexus 7 General] nfaust01:
Awesome just read that entire thread. Seems there is much hope now. Thanks for the link.
[Nexus 7 General] eemarchetti:
Do I have to "root" my Nexus 7 to make it work???

Sorry the newby question...

Best Regards
[Nexus 7 General] Clownfishy:
It's still not working but yes, it looks like it will need to be rooted

Kind Regards

Clownfishy
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
Since you could install the new modified framework directly through custom recovery, which doesn't inherently need root to work, no, you don't need to be rooted. But is there any reason why you wouldn't want to?
[Nexus 7 General] Synman:
Speaking of which is friggin awesome... TWRP is the bomb.
[Nexus 7 General] Synman:
Has anyone actually tried this? From Phone if I go to Settings and withinInternet Calling the SIP list is empty and the only other option is an answer incoming SIP calls option immediately above the blank list.

Even with DPI set to 320 I have no, even remotely, intuitive means of adding one.
[Nexus 7 General] clubtech:
If you read the thread you will see that i does work for people here and it certainly worked for me. You must be doing something wrong.
[Nexus 7 General] Synman:
I fixed it by dropping the Holo.DialogWhenLarge theme ... took care of APN Editor at the same time.

I wasn't missing anything. The density clearly changed but the Preferences activity was still being rendered as a dialog without any action items available.
[Nexus 7 General] flicnflack:
Synman

would this be of any asistance http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=modem-int/xgold-ril.git;a=tree;hb=HEAD
[Nexus 7 General] Synman:
Has already been covered in the DEV thread... Its actually my last post there as well as a number of earlier visits in the thread.

But, thanks regardless. I have no problem with redundancy.
[Nexus 7 General] GoneNomad:
I registered for this site just to thank those who have been wading through this issue (especially user "phonic" for his persistence in trying to get across the difference in making voice calls via any VOIP method using the data connection, and making voice calls directly via GSM).

I realize that some of what I've stated below isn't strictly on-topic, but it does follow the same theme that this thread and this related thread: TMobile $30 5GB plan DOES NOT WORK on Nexus 7 GSM! discuss, because all of these posts about finding a way to make Nexus 7 GSM voice calls work are moot without GSM voice service from AT&T or T-Mobile.

Since I've spent the better part of this morning wading through 50 pages of posts in these two threads (among others), in order to help the next people who come here with the same questions I had, I'd like to recap here to save them some time, which after all these pages really boils down to just these simple facts:

With no modifications, the Google Nexus 7 HSPA+ data can (apparently) receive (but not send) SMS messages, but cannot make or receive GSM voice calls. Software can be added fairly easily to allow the Nexus 7 HSPA+ to send SMS messages. There appears to be no practical way for a Nexus 7 HSPA+ to make or receive GSM voice calls, right?

T-Mobile offers a terrific no-contract plan here that includes 100 minutes talk, unlimited text, unlimited data (slower speeds after 5GB) for only $30 per month. This is less expensive than T-Mobile's Mobile Broadband refill cards here, which are $35 for a 3.5GB month pass or $50 for a 5GB month pass (with NO additional slower-speed data after those limits).

Apparently, some of AT&T's no-contract plans do not have the limitation that T-Mobile has imposed, and will allow the Nexus 7 HSPA+ to access the internet and send/receive SMS text messages. But AT&T's plans are not nearly as cost-effective as the $30 T-Mobile plan mentioned above, and since the Nexus 7 is not LTE, it cannot take full advantage of AT&T's faster LTE network in the areas where it is available. So I think this should make T-Mobile the go-to carrier for the Nexus 7.

WalMart does sell a similar $35 3.5GB T-Mobile Mobile Broadband pass that is valid for 60 days, but it requires that the hardware be purchased at WalMart, which usually means a higher price for that hardware than the best online deal, and fewer choices (e.g.: no Nexus 7 HSPA+ from Walmart). This Walmart $35/60 days deal is permanently locked to the IMEI number of the hardware, and cannot be transferred with the SIM card to another device bought elsewhere.

I believe the above statements are a correct assessment of the situation as of today.

If anyone else has any verified information to the contrary, I hope they will post it.
[Nexus 7 General] brotsalami:
Thx

Dear All,

thank you very much for your efforts to bring Voice Calls to

MY

Nexus 7 3G. I would love to sell my Nokia N900 on Ebay. :fingers-crossed:

As I have seen the noob video right now, I am not going to ask if there are any news to that topic, so please don't answer this question.

Thx & Regards

brotsalami
[Nexus 7 General] flicnflack:
HTC Tablet

Htc are working on a 7 inch Tablet with phone enabled http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/378841/htc-to-launch-windows-tablets

Will this force google to enable GSM on our device
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
No, of course not.

Not only is this a windows phone, but there are already android tsblets that support phone calls, so this isn't some paradigm shift.
[Nexus 7 General] lionelvo:
Google nexus 7 3G can send SMS

Can receive and send, just install GO SMS PRO and language pack on the GOOGLE PLAY and you can send SMS/MMS and receive without problem. But for call with Sim card i'm sure can but how ? (with bluetooth kit)
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
Your post was completely pointless.

1) The guy said he was clarifying what he could and could not do "with no modifications".

2) He already mentioned he knew sending SMS was possible by adding additional software, such as Go SMS Pro.

3) Voice Calling via 3G is not possible at this time and is looking more and more unlikely as time goes on. The limitation has absolutely nothing to do with having a bluetooth headset or not.
[Nexus 7 General] hwb11:
I don't care too much for voice calls, but I really would like to be able to send GSM codes to top up my prepaid card without having to put the sim card into my mobile.
[Nexus 7 General] Clownfishy:
I have been reading and praying that the development thread would solve the problem so we can make voice calls on the Nexus 7. Looks like we are going to need some more help on this and was just wondering what else we non-devs can do? I am going to contact Jordan to see if he could mention it on the weekly video news in the hope it will attract more help.......just not sure what other help we can offer to help the developers out?
[Nexus 7 General] hasafly:
Ready for it!!

Hi guys,

if i can do something i appreciate to help too. I have an Nexus 7 3G, so i'm ready for it......just tell me what i have to do.

Regards.
[Nexus 7 General] sashusmom:
Pray Harder! Lol :silly: Happy New Year!
[Nexus 7 General] kashifabidi:
Hi!

I am also getting my N7 today.. let me know in what way i can help, I would love to... I just lost my GS3
[Nexus 7 General] XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX:
There is something similar with the iPad. If jail broken. Use groove IP. You'll have a connection all the time and a permanent number and its free
[Nexus 7 General] Clownfishy:
Let's hope they get voice working over GSM

Kind Regards

Clownfishy
[Nexus 7 General] andreapier:
Hi, i just bought a Nexus 7 some days ago and saw the development thread about getting gsm calls working.

Unfortunately i noticed that development is being slowed by some hard problems to solve.

Can anyone summarize what techincal difficulties devs have found until now and if there is any hope?

Thanks
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
The technical issues were pretty well outlined in the dev thread.

Suffice it to say, no one has successfully gotten 3G calling to work.

While many believe the hardware (radio) is capable of it, the firmware certainly is not. So it looks like the only solution is to find a radio firmware that is compatible with the radio, the tablet and 3G voice calling. Whether or not that's possible is still a big unknown.
[Nexus 7 General] :
Id say the best non technical thing to do is pool together and message Google for a patch that disables whatever restrictions for game voice. If enough people push then maybe they'll do it....or at least state reasoning for not. The problems looking like we need a compatible hybrid radio from a device that already has voice enabled but the problem is they'd have to be completely exact as far as programming. That's what caused a couple of the guys who've been spearheading this to radio brick their tabs recently. Or find out where Google stores imei numbers throughout the device and see if we can manually change it.

Its not recommended that you decompile or root through your radio or system files unless you have a good understanding of them lest you irrevocably break something
[Nexus 7 General] varta:
Could You please post here some link to a contact form or some email where we can contact Google directly?

Because on Devices support there is no contact form nor email ( http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/request.py?contact_type=contact_policy&policy=hardware ) :(
[Nexus 7 General] :
hmmm I'll try to find it.
[Nexus 7 General] MatriarchRaszagal:
Search this thread. I think someone posted a link somewhere in the "beginning" of the thread. It was either in this or in the dev thread. I'm on my phone ATM, but if I find the post I mean when I get to my computer I'll post a link to it here.
[Nexus 7 General] MatriarchRaszagal:
Hmmm.. I've searched both this and the dev thread multiple times for words I thought remember from the post I was looking for, but either it was in some other related thread or it was removed in the dev thread when the moderator cleaned it ut a little. Either way I'm sad to say I couldn't find the link :(
[Nexus 7 General] Clownfishy:
As we seem to have come to a halt with this, i started to think that maybe we are barking up the wrong tree here. If it is the the radio firmware that we need, should we not be contacting Assus rather than Google as they are the ones that make it? If we know specifically what we need/would like, maybe we could craft up an email to them and see if we can get anything from the manufacturer....... Just a thought.
[Nexus 7 General] FReaKRaNT:
Wow, you are definitely eager for this to suckseed! :p

Cheers, FReaKRaNT
[Nexus 7 General] Clownfishy:
I wouldn't,'t say eager......desperate maybe :)
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
While I personally have no real use for it, since I can make free VoIP calls just as easily, I think it would be a nice feature to have and am upset that it was (apparently) actively disabled for no reason.

And even though I doubt I would use it in the US, if I travelled internationally it could be quite useful and convenient if you wanted to get a local SIM for data and voice, and opted to use your tablet instead of a phone.
[Nexus 7 General] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
Has anyone tried the line 2 APP yet??? I have tried that on many devices and works great. Not free. But always works when I need it.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
For the 67,983rd time, stop asking about VoIP calling through third party apps. Yes it works - we all know it works. That has absolutely nothing to do with the purpose of this thread. This thread is dealing with voice calling directly through the carrier (like on a phone).

IF it's even possible, it's not going to be quick or easy. Many highly skilled developers have already given it a shot with little success. So please stop making suggestions about modifying build.prop, using some custom ROM, editing the framework or any other "simple fix", because it's not going to work. And comments like "I have no skills whatsoever, but I would be happy to help in any way I can" is nice and all, but completely unnecessary because nothing you can do will help. Unless of course you have a degree in electrical engineering with a specialty in low-level radio firmware programming.. If you want to know the status of the work-in-progress, read the Dev thread (but don't post in it unless you can actually contribute, which is 0.1% of the people here).

If you want to do something possibly productive, as someone else said, try emailing Google asking them to enable it and/or expressing your displeasure that it wasn't in the first place.
[Nexus 7 General] Methanoid:
Wot he said.. bloody irritating to get a New Posts notification to find its just some twat with a pointless post (like this would be, except to reinfornce phonic's sensible message!!)
[Nexus 7 General] Clownfishy:
Yesterday I mentioned I would try and contact Asus and ask them if they could look through the dev thread to see if they would be prepared to offer some help. I have posted a question in the pre-sales contact form asking for help but failed to contact their actual technical support guys as you need to enter the serial number of your device and I do not own one yet! Can someone who owns the 3g version request some help by filling in the details on the link below or PM a serial number and I will fill it out. To me, it is looking like we need some serious help on this and Asus are best place to offer that help.......just gotta find out if they will!

Many thanks.

http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx
[Nexus 7 General] Synman:
That's some serious irony there... Asus's support site is .net
[Nexus 7 General] :
Earlier when I mentioned contacting Google I forgot that over in the tf201 thread they had so many problems a rep "Gary key" made a profile and began addressing issues directly and posting status updates. I know its just a placebo for us but if his accounts still active that is another route to getting they're attention
[Nexus 7 General] Clownfishy:
Just been reading the dev thread and things are not looking good. This got me thinking, if the internal hardware cannot make gem calls, is there such thing as a "tiny" micro USB modem which can connect to the USB port for when you want to make calls?
[Nexus 7 General] :
I haven't heard of any. If its gonna come to that will it really even be worth it when the VoIP services work without any extra hardware? It would be another option though. I guess I'm lucky. My unlimited data att Sim works with call forwarding enabled so all my att calls go to GV account

So no real loss of functionality. I'm beginning to look into middle ground solutions though so hopefully this doesn't die off.
[Nexus 7 General] Xandor_Maker:
ASUS

Hello guys.

I'm ASUS Repair Engineer.

Don't aspect to contact ASUS for as them help you with calls unlocking. ASUS will not help you with breaking Google device.

Nexus 7 is produced with Google standards, so ask them to add Call apk in next update.

See you around.

P.S. I'm an Nexus 7 3G owner to, so...
[Nexus 7 General] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
Maby they did this because they have some new Google voice coming out soon.

DEVICES:

NEXUS 7 32GB STOCK

(NO ROOT)

T-MOBIL LG G2X (LG-P999)

STOCK (ROOTED)
[Nexus 7 General] qingfengme:
Reply

Hi, Guys, Is there any infomation update from now..

Really hope there is any littlt break from this topic..
[Nexus 7 General] Xandor_Maker:
Hi.

Yes.

I was informed that Nexus 7 3G heve not only a software block but hardware block to, so if you need to unlock it, you heve to look for Intel (Infineon) XMM6260 datasheet and tri to understand what is missing part for calls.

That's it.
[Nexus 7 General] RoFunTech:
Voicecalls

:o well, since Skype and Yahoo Messenger works, no need any new implement,in my oppinion. However, FaceBook enebles wifi calls so that will rock the hell out.
[Nexus 7 General] Paul in Maryland:
Michael Liu describes living with his Nexus 7 "phone"

Michael Liu of Android Police has written about his experience--mostly a good one--using the Nexus 7 3G as a phablet. It's an intriguing read, and more than 100 comments have been left. Check Michael's words and photos, and readers' comments, at An Experiment: My Life With A Nexus 7 As My Phone.
[Nexus 7 General] Censura_Umbra:
My question is where do I get that $20 plan
[Nexus 7 General] leonhartxxx:
hello guys..i'm a newbie, i confuse reading this thread..actually for nexus 7 is already can make a voice call? in the first page, i can't understand point no. 3 :

3- Modified framework-res.apk (by modifying bools.xml entry to name="config_voice_capable">true) shows up the native dialer (phone.apk) on the UI

JB 4.2 http://xdaforums.com/show...958686&page=12

JB 4.2.1 http://xdaforums.com/show...&postcount=314

what should i do with that framework.apk, i can't install, i already try it..maybe someone can guide me how to do it.. thanks
[Nexus 7 General] bigbusa:
Hi folks, Just wondering there are a few threads, regarding this, one for devs to contribute only. Is there a way for us lest technical people be alerted when there is a Hack for this, Ie some mailing list that once a hack is found, all those who are interested get the email with a thread URL containing the steps.

Regards
[Nexus 7 General] sashusmom:
Subscribe to the dev thread! You will get all new posts if you click on the User CP at the top of the site.
[Nexus 7 General] WernerW:
news

anyone found something somewhere else?

...well. ok. where else would you look of not here at xda ;)
[Nexus 7 General] WernerW:
crowd funding

Hi all!

a user suggested that we (unknowing users:)) could collect some

money and give it to the first developer who comes up with a working

solution of our "how-to-make-gsm-phone-calls-on-Nexus-7"-problem.

so: here we go. please donate a few bucks so we gather a nice, motivating, price:

I gave 10 bucks and I hope that many will follow my example.

If you're a developer and came up with a solution please contact me to

collect the money! I'm really looking forward to hearing from you.
[Nexus 7 General] sashusmom:
Don't know if you get many donations like this. Usually a pledge is made and when a solution has come to light by a developer, pledges are paid to the bounty organizer. If people honor their pledges they usually pay up.
[Nexus 7 General] andr0i:
Sorry if this is noob question. I can't scroll down for 20 pages. I downloaded it, what should I do next? I try to decompile and build the update.zip. After update.zip finish, Android stucks in the logo and can't boot.
[Nexus 7 General] webid4me:
USSD codes

This may be slightly off topic. I do understand that voice calls has not been possible till now. But how about USSD codes?
[Nexus 7 General] qingfengme:
Reply

Is there any hope we can use NEXUS 7 3G as a cell phone.

Is been a long time without anything new, I wonder if anybody can tell.

Hope it doesn't bother too much.
[Nexus 7 General] Polarfuchs:
I don't think that there is hope.

Personally I'd rather wait for the ASUS Fonepad http://mobilegeeks.de/asus-fonepad-me371mg-erstes-bild-und-spezifikationen-aufgetaucht/
[Nexus 7 General] WernerW:
I've been hoping too for a long time.

...and ended up with buying a Note II instead :)

double price - but still a great value for the money.