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[Galaxy Note II Android Development] flez1966:
I get the popup, it stays on for like 3 seconds then goes off on its own, i dont click it. (battery in status bar shows charging)

here is another logcat

alogcat is started, the screen is touched twice to verify its capturing, then i initiate wireless charging by applying 5v from the touchstone charger to the phones internal charge pins, i do this for 5 seconds, then stop charging for 5 seconds, this is repeated 5 times, then the log is saved.

http://pastebin.com/H7Zyi3y7

I never said I was 10, I said I was thick lol, I'm 46 ............
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] harpocrates:
no..you implied you were 10 by asking instructions for a 10 year old... and considering how you have responded to the task you make me look like im 10...im 34..this saturday ;)

I have given the info to ptmr3 to look at since he is the dev and i will go through it with my limited programming skills and see if i can recognize a patern....i wanted to compare your usb charging log to mine but my alogcat stopped working so ill have to try and adb a log at home...when i have time...someday...this year...
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] flez1966:
Lol well anything i can do to help others get it going i'm more than willing to try, even though i have all the bits working for mine i still have not yet glued it all up etc, I may get round to it, one day. more important is making my cordless mouse work with it, it eats batteries, and is always going dead at the most awkward times..

my big plan is a docking station so i can use it on the monitor at the side of my bed to watch movies as i drift off to sleep on a night....

if i get that done, it will charge overnight and this wireless charging will never be used..... /of to put the spare receiver in my tablet..
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] harpocrates:
I actually did another test the other day which indicates that this is disabled by software for us.

I had a PSU set to 5v and connected to pins and reboot phone...while still connected this way... had a half transparent overlay message appear on the bottom left saying safe mode..in other words the pins aren't disconnected via hardware..otherwise the phone wouldn't know something is going on.disconnected pins, rebooted and message went away... that's progress :p
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Framedtrash:
Can confirm this mod also works on the n7105
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] aaronrkelly:
My GF has a Note 2 from US Cellular.

Popped off the battery cover and right off the bat you can tell its different from the international version because it lacks the two charging points......but I wondered if they were under the plastic back plate but just not visible.....so she dove in and tore it apart.

Used a disassembly video we found on YouTube....so I wont bother with the "unscrew this" - "pry here" crap.

This is what you see once you get it apart.

See them two little spots....yep, thats what your looking for.

Now I gotta "modify" read "hack the **** out of" the back cover so you can access those little points with the phone reassembled......so I used a dremel to hog out the back plate.

Stick all the Palm crap on the original battery door......see those little fingers are going to fit thru the hole and contact the charging points on the circuit board.

.......and success. WIRELESS CHARGING
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] be_vigilant:
Finally got some solder and completed the mod.

Unfortuantely it doesnt charge through a TPU gel case. I also find I have to place the note quite accurately on the touchstone for charging to be enabled. A couple of mm off and charging stops. I think I might pull apart the touchstone see what I can do with it.

Left my phone wirelessly charging all night, worked perfect :)

Thanks again :laugh:
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Framedtrash:
Wouldnt the hp touchstone charging dock for the touhpad work ??

Its a hell of alot bigger then the little dock

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0055QYJIS
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] flez1966:
There's not a lot in the small touchstone to.mod, I'll be playing with it later as I want to get it into charging mode without it sensing the silver foil.. its ruin from a small pic chip do I'd guess one pin is an input from.the detector circuit, just have to find if out good high or low and try tieing it and see if it times out etc.

There's pics of the internals of the small charge about 6 pages back

I just lost my net to home, so only logging in on the note now...

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Is that silver sticker the magic foil or is that stuck on your coil, I can't see it showing through etc
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] :
making a video of it will be highly appreciated thank you man.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] harpocrates:
Its also a lot more expensive :p

Like 5times more..

I believe in theory it should.. it's based on inductance so that's why they have a coil and magnets on the case.. but it all depends on how the HP dock is set up for the coil on that side. the positioning might not work..

If anyone has an hp dock and is willing to try I'd love to know. Not spending 25 bucks to find out though
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Ryan_G:
It should be the same with the T shape silver foil, as I believe it uses the parts from one of the Palm case.

I could be wrong, It will be interesting to see whats under the cover whether its a Pre or Pixi or their own coil.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] skibumza:
I've got the touchpad dock. My pre back arrived today, so assuming I can find my meter, I'll try it before taking the pre back apart.

Me and soldering iron don't agree, so going to get a friend to do the soldering for me.

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Just tried the pre back on the touchpad dock and my meter didn't register any voltage or current. I don't have the pre touchstone yet. Hope to get that by the weekend. So could be my pre back is dead or the touchpad dock won't charge the pre back, or it needs load. The dock charges my touchpad just fine so I know that works.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] harpocrates:
See of you place it at different locations on HP dock if it makes a difference... like i mentioned it depends on how and where the primary coil is in order for the induction to work. but thanks for letting us know

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And its voltage you should be measuring as current will be drawn when its being used so it won't register.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] willingtan:
Peeling the silver sticker

Hi!

How do you peel off the Silver sticker with out cracking the it....? It seems very delicate.

Thanks!
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] harpocrates:
I used a thin crafting knife and peeled the edge first slowly and then when i could grab it with fingers i pulled gently. Its tougher than you think, but still proceed with caution.

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Received my dock and case today. Setup everything and ive confirmed with a multimeter that it gets 5.62 volts (without the gel case ..:P).

Now working with a dev so we can figure out how to enable pins through software as the phone knows they are there but has them disabled for charging. Maybe by tmobile request so they can come out with their own charging base?
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] perryh1:
pics of the inside of 889v

i don't have the sprint one or the international one to compare to but i took my note apart and tried to take the best pics i could of the inside if this helps anyone figure out if this is hardware or software related, I have the 889v which is the canadian wind mobile version, believe its the same as the tmobile version
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Frank2:
I tried it with the perseus kernel, but the current is max. 420 mA. The kernel developer means the problem is the touchstone-system. So, is it possible to charge with higher current or is there a limitation in the touchstone charger?
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] flez1966:
I very very much doubt that 400ma is too low etc.

I'll try to limit the current to the phone and see what happens on mine tomorrow, just gone to bed etc.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] harpocrates:
I posted earlier that i have indications its software because when i rebooted the phone with the pins connected to 5v it came up with a message saying safe mode. I disconnected power to the pins,rebooted again and safe mode message disappeared.. I'm off to a business's trip next week but I'm thinking of flashing an international ROM and checking.. radio may not work and some other features but it will help me find out if it's software for sure..
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] suprstar29:
The at&t version has the charging pins, going to try the mod over the weekend, I'll let you no if it works
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] harpocrates:
If you have access to a power supply you can try that with 5.6 volts
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Ryan_G:
I thought it was kernel related from a discussion on another thread, thanks for testing and posting about Perseus Kernel. It might still be the phone limiting it as 'AndreiLux' was unsure whether the raised charging rate would increase wpc. If the touchstone is limiting the current then I'm unsure what to do next, I will experiment when I'm back off shift and on my rest week again. I have a spare touchstone which I could look at modifying, but I'm going to be connecting a microusb lead to the contacts of the Palm Pre for a friend to stick on his Galaxy Note 1 so I will check the current from that and also several other phones to see if they all give the same readings.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] henge:
Had some operator error!! Realized my problem and the AT&T Note 2 is confirmed to be working! Sorry about the mix up everyone!!
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] ZeAuReLiEn:
Flip cover

Hi

Can this mod be done (or purchased) with the Samsung flip cover case ?

I found already made wireless charging cover on eBay, but none with a flip cover...
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Ryan_G:
Yes you can do this mod on the flip cover, it fits fine. I think somebody posted about it on this thread somewhere.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] robotnikz:
Awesome! Will try it out soon..

Sent from Galaxy Note 2

WanamLite 1.5
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Ryan_G:
Nice let us know how you get on and post some picture of it when you've done it.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Frank2:
Here is a german tutorial: http://allaboutsamsung.de/2012/11/b...en-fur-das-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-nachrusten/
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Ryan_G:
Good find, its got some good pictures one of them of how to do the mod with the Palm Pixi.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] harpocrates:
I have a theory i want to test on my T-Mobile note but have to do it when in back from business's trip next week. i want to flash an international ROM and try the wireless charging.. want to see if its software blocking the wireless charge.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] dahanist:
Telus?

has anyone tried this on a Telus Note 2 (Canadian Carrier)?
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] vinas1:
AFAIK the Perrseus kernel raises the charge rate to 900mA, which last I tested would work fine for the 2,000mA OEM Samsung GN2 charger, but chargers that put out less amperage would not work reliably. I tested several different chargers from 250mA to 1,000mA. My tests showed that a 750mA charger would work, but a 500mA charger would not charge the phone unless it was very close to full (approximately 80% or higher and it would work). Once this kernel was switched back to stock, those same chargers all worked fine. My theory is that the charge rate of the Perseus Kernel overcame the capacity of the smaller chargers and cause them to either not work, or cycle in a connect,disconnect loop.

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If you do this, please update the t-mobile thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1978276

I believe people have had issues with the radio not working after flashing the international ROM and other more major issues so be careful!!!
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] nm8:
HI all, I have posted a "no solder" technique here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1986016
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Frank2:
There is something strange with the charging rate:

When I have placed the Note 2 on the touchstone the rate is 270 mA. When I have unplugged the USB and plugged it again sometimes it is 370 mA or 530 mA. I can do it again and again, the rate is sometimes 270 mA, sometimes 370 mA or 530 mA. Always stable one of these 3 rates.

I have the perseus kernel, so I made a test. I connected the palm coil directly to a Mirco-USB and to the Note 2. The rates are the same! No fast charging. I connected pin 4 and 5 for fast charging, the rates are again 270, 370 mA or 530 mA.

No matter what charger I am using with the touchstone: Note 1-Charger with maximum 1A or Note 2-Charger with max. 2 A.

I know the Note 2 have a charging regulation system inside to proof the quality of the charging source. When the source isn't stable enough it is falling back to a lower rate. Is this the problem? Is the palm coil power not stable enough?
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] erick161:
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[Galaxy Note II Android Development] harpocrates:
I assumed that radio etc would not work. plus i need T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling.

I just will flash to test charge by applying voltage and then nandroid back. This way of it works then it's verified its only a software issue

Sorry.. Mobile app won't let me quote your post
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] vinas1:
No worries, I wish you luck! :D I think nandroid is a good idea too. :good:
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] flez1966:
With ref to the charging rates quoted above and the highest being 570ma, that's an astounding about of charge for a wireless system, if you were expecting 2 amps, your in the wrong century.... 500ma would have been thought 'impossible' 20 years ago.....

Wireless charging its for topping up and overnight, not 2 hours fast charges

Just my opinion of course, maybe someone will get 2 amps with a bit of wire in a circle....
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Frank2:
I don't want 2 amps. 500 mA stable is really enough.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] jimsey:
using powermat coil and mat instead of palm

Hi,

I modded the S2 and note 1 using a powermat coil, also did same to my s3 but that was easier as it has the pins for wireless charging like the note 2.

I've just bought the note 2 and just stuck the coil in the back and attached it to the pins - it seems to charge OK but the coil is effecting the s-pen.:crying:

on my note 1 mod i put the coil inside a double skin case and put magnetic shielding between the coil and phone, but this takes up space and the shielding wont fit under the Note 2 back cover.

presumably if the palm version is not affecting the s-pen then it has weaker magnets?
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] flez1966:
The issue is maybe coil separation distance, it really affects transfer and its exponential, just an extra mm may lose you 100ma etc if it's best the limit, add in the fact if the whole thing is 50% I'd be shocked and you start to see how much juice needs to be flowing in that tx coil, I don't know how big a pixie battery or a pre one is but I guess it's about 800ma from looking at the size of the plastic backs, so to get 300ma would charge it in 2-3 hours

I think with a thin case 400ma will be stable.

Really missing having internet on my pc/laptop...stopping me doing so much...
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] opentoideas:
Where did you get this version of the coil?

Looks much easier than the oem palm one to fit

Thanks
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Frank2:
This is still the palm coil modificated by some chinese ebay sellers. There is only a new cover and contacts.

Take a look here:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/OEM-Palm-Whi...ories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item3a7b4968a0
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] opentoideas:
crickey! will mod myself then.

if they were selling the modded coil then it might have been interesting but at that price its not worth bothering.

thanks for the info :)
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Frank2:
Here is another cheap deal:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Wireless-Cha...307686?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item23211b87a6

..and when you use this coil-mod it will be to high, so the note doesn't fits to the touchstone without touching the table.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] opentoideas:
Just gone and ordered 2 each of the touchstones and backs mentioned in the op

I figured a spare back was a good idea in case I muck one up removing it and at only a few pounds its so cheap if I get it right first time in my flip case I have another to use on the standard back and at these prices the touchstones are too good to pass up
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Ryan_G:
Nice let us know how you get on, and also post some pictures of the flip case when its all working.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] avwuff:
I just tried hooking up some power to the two pins and it did not work. I don't know enough about the differences between each model to know if the Telus version is the same as the AT&T, or T-Mobile, or what. Why can't they just put out one phone for the entire world, for once, god damn it! :)
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] nm8:
I feel your pain and everyone else's who can't make the mod work. This is why I don't buy network branded phones. I'd rather pay a bit more and know the phone is not crippled by any means.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] opentoideas:
will do - and big thanks for leading the way with this.

there should be little difference with the flip case as its almost identical however the "hinge" connection is just where the contacts are so although there is a hendy mark which should help to align them the space could be tight.

will hopefully get the bits next week ;)
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] avwuff:
Maybe I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the international one (on which the wireless charging works) isn't compatible with the LTE bands that Telus uses... so that's why I buy it from Telus.

Maybe I am wrong?

-av
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] nm8:
sorry I don't know the answer, lets wait for someone to answer your q.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Ryan_G:
Telus supports the below frequencies

Band 4 (2100/1700 MHz)

The International LTE is multi band LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 but doesn't support the Telus Band, so getting your carrier version was the only option for you.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] SS2006:
can this be done for qi chargers? (Like the nokia wireless charger or LG Optimus G charger) i figure they work similary?
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Ryan_G:
I see no reason, you will just have to check the voltage and polarity is correct before hooking it up to your phone. It be interesting to see the qi chargers as they now the standard for inductive charging.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] nm8:
works on Bell Canada units:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34140856&postcount=29
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] skfalco:
Video for OP

Hi OP i will make a video tomorrow i just bought the touchstone and the cable, i think the soldering part is not worth adding it to the video right? just the migrating of the touchstone wireless charger and everything else, also i will translate it to spanish so everyone can understand =) there are plenty of mexicans here you know, wish me luck and see you tomorrow! =)

P.D. Hope you can add my video to OP if y ou find it useful
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Jade Eyed Wolf:
How do the alignment magnets from this mod affect the compass functionality? Do they also affect the S-Pen in any way?
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] theminor:
I'm trying to decide how to handle this mod. I keep my Note 2 in a Bear Motion case presently and initial testing shows that the case is much too thick for wireless charging to work in the case. So I'm thinking of doing two wireless charging units - one integrated into the case and one as a standard mod on the phone battery cover.

I need to figure out a way to get the wireless charging leads out "in the open" so that they can mate up to the case, or I suppose I could use the USB port, but that might not be as "elegant" in that the phone will not know it is "wireless charging" but rather normal charging. Probably not a big deal, though...

Any ideas as to a clean way to do this would be appreciated...
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] garyd9:
There are no magnets in the part you stick in the phone cover for the touchstone mod. The 4 silver discs are just plain metal. The actual magnets are only in the touchstone base.

There's no impact on the s-pen, but the unpowered copper coil can impact the compass depending on where it's placed. (I observed potential compass interference when doing the same modification on SGS3 (i9300.))

If you ensure that the coil is centered against the battery (not too high or low) then it seems to remove any compass interference

Gary
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Ryan_G:
Very useful to many users planning on doing this, thanks looking forward to seeing it.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Ryan_G:
just seen this post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34169298&postcount=115

apparently the AT&T Note II does actually work, could somebody confirm this and I will correct the first page
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] henge:
HOLY CRAP! man.. i am feeling lucky right now. it turns out the AT&T Note 2 DOES WORK! I am just thankful that I didn't ruin my phone!! Unfortunately I had some operator error! I am human and willing to admit when I made a mistake! The cover I was using was from a palm pixi (not the pre) so the piece in the cover was laid out a little differently. I thought I had determined which pole was positive and which was negative. However, it turns out someone must have unplugged the wires to my multimeter at some point. I didn't even check it (thinking I was the last person to use it) and the red and black were backwards!!! So this whole time I've been connecting the leads backwards on the phone. Finally realized my problem and it works!
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] snakeman65:
I've just done this mod on my n7105 in the UK. I've used aluminum tape from maplin and was having real problems with it. Turns out the adhesive side is NOT conductive! Ended up rolling the conductive site into a little roll over each of the contacts then sticking a bit of card over the top to keep it in place.

Is there any way to get rid of the annoying alert when it starts charging?
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] nm8:
Look in my solderless mod here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1986016
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] opentoideas:
Well the bits arrived...

5 min later and its all working.

Thanks again for paving the way ;)
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Ryan_G:
No problem, glad you've done it and its working. You've been added to the success list on the first page.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] nm8:
HI OP and everybody, I have taken a powermat universal receiver apart and look what I've found:

more images in post #2 in my thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1986016
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Ryan_G:
Yeah its alot thicker, then what I thought it was. Do you think that instead of the universal receiver, the receiver could possibly be thinner in the likes of the blackberry bold powermat cover.

Cool find, cheers for sharing it.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] nm8:
Can you give me a link please... But if it is one of those covers with protruding square back, then my guess is it will be the same size.