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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] techdeisel:
Obviously u just read what u want mine is the play store but its themed dark and it returns the old icon which I and lots of others like and trust I am not behind in anything android please pay attention read and understand before u post on my threads
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] techdeisel:
Oh and my Google play for Isc is .16 so what's the news in your reply
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mine420:
Sorry I was confused didn't mean to offend you, the title of your video is "Android x86 3.2 got new google android market 3.4."

which confused me since the sony ion has a snapdragon cpu in it which has ARMv7 instruction set not x86 so I was confused why you would put android x86 on a device that has ARMv7 instructions rather than x86 instructions, .16 as in 3.4.16 or 3.9.16? There was no news in my reply just trying to figure out your video and what it was about. Sorry if I offended you.

at first I thought you were talking about the inverted black themed google play like here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1634469 but I guess I was confused
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] techdeisel:
Okay that's no problem I understand just sounded like you were looking for something that I didn't say was in my video which is the case don't know why but for some reason the video you are describing and willing to is not the video that I posted for this thread video as I explained to the other gentleman this is merely stating how much I like the phone the things I've done to the phone showing and displaying them which includes a themed version of the play store that not only displays it in dark black and blue but also changes to the original market Icon which I and many others like better then the play store Icon but it still play store version 3.9 .1.6
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mine420:
there were two videos in your post before this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmjIPgB0hpE&feature=plcp and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKuspFbugcU&feature=youtube_gdata_player I was talking about the first video which is the one that confused me.
[HTC Rezound] pmgreen:
Is it possible to get S-Off without the wire trick? I'm fearful that I'll brick it using wire.
[HTC Rezound] mjones73:
Nope.
[HTC Rezound] funnyangrykid:
one does not simply S-off their Rezound without the wire trick.
[HTC Rezound] LOBBS:
The wire trick is really not as scary as its made out to be. I got S-Off on my second try or about five minutes from starting up Controlbear for the first time.
[HTC Rezound] michaelbsheldon:
Wire trick

Just be sure you touch ONLY the two contacts they specify and no others. I learned hard way awhile back.
[HTC Rezound] LOBBS:
Easiest way to avoid that is simply to cover up the other contacts with electrical tape.
[HTC Rezound] SynisterWolf:
yes and no.

yes because you can use a paper clip and not a wire, no because you still need to make the 2 contacts touch.

:good:

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the cluster of 5 pins in that one area are all ground pins. you can use anyone of them. the power is supplied from the rectangular ones placed all over.
[HTC Rezound] topgun1953:
From Nike: "Just Do It" :D
[HTC Rezound] carngeX:
I couldn't get S-off to work with any paperclips that I had tried; spent like 20 minutes trying to get it to work with several paperclips. I used a speaker wire from my home theatre, and it worked the first time lol.
[HTC Rezound] SynisterWolf:
with the paperclip. you need to make sure the paper clip is flat as possible. its harder with a clip then a wire.
[HTC Rezound] 1Raiders:
I'm paperclip all the way
[HTC Rezound] shrike1978:
I've used the core wire from TV coax on every one I've done.
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
I use solid core Cat-5. Got it on the first try.
[HTC Rezound] 1Raiders:
Do you have a retainer? That would be perfect.

Charliestheman helped me. Maybe if you're scared to do it you could send it to him and he could send it back s off.
[HTC Rezound] LOBBS:
A 14ga solid copper core insulated ground wire worked for me. Had a length left over from some random project.
[HTC Rezound] Squirrel1620:
+1 on that. Works perfectly
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
Yep. I think coaxial is too big, and a paper clip is too stiff.
[HTC Rezound] shrike1978:
Stiffer worked better for me. Easier to hold a connection to pin 1.
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
Again,

this is not a dev thread. Moved to general
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Sorry if this sounds too noobish. But why cant android have a type of multitasking like symbain. We could choose what apps will be open and when they need to close. I liked the app management much better in symbain. And all that happened in low specs phones.Any way to have a symbian style multitasking???
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] dav.:
press the home button for few seconds.

its not exactly a multitasking feature but its something close to it.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Thats what, we can only see the recent apps lis. It doesnt show which apps are still open and which are closed and niether do we have power to keep an app open till the time we wanted like in symbain.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
Yes you can! in settings /apps

you can see running and cashed apps

I can't screen shot maybe some one else will

Ics and jb
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Well that's fine... but still android doesn't give us control on app... suppose I was playing a game...i get an sms or call...i minimise game and reply... then when I try to go back to game it would have already closed and I will have to start all over..in symbian we could have that stuff with much lesser specs...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] taaviu:
Did you even read your phone user manual? Trust me, with android multitasking working very well. Its built in every android. Just press whenever you want home or back button...make your app choices...enjoy...and if you want return back previous app, press and HOLD again home button...chooce your game or app and enjoy again :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Have you ever used a symbian s60 smartphone?... Compared to it android multitasking sucks... Android multitasking works with atmost 2 apps then all get closed...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
"Real multitasking is not about the task-switching UI, it's about who controls which processes are allowed to continue running in the background. If the OS terminates processes that the user started without confirmation from the user, then that OS does not provide real multitasking."

And this is the case in android phones. I just want to know why since symbain phones were able to do it and better specs android phones cant.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] taaviu:
:) no I dont used never any S60 phone.....but im using android phone every day over 2years(powerusers) and for me this multitasking thing working very well. Example: listening music, same time surfing web, some emails, news, some new apps...few calls and I can switch between apps always. About gaming...sorry dont know.

EDIT: Why we dont have any S60 device with good specs? ;)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] drafha:
Agree..

I also don't like the Android multitasking way..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Well i guess symbain doesnt require dual cores or quad cores. It does very well with a 600mhz processer and 256mb ram. We could have multitasked very well with just that.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Alarmmy:
Really? Are u sure u are using an Android phone? Or your Android phone is 4 years old? Im not trying to mock you, but what you just wrote is non sense. You make me think that You probably dont have an Android phone.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] taaviu:
OWNED :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Really? Have you seen a symbian phone even once and that way it multitasks? Why would i write nonsense? And i have xperia neo v. Android may be better than all os but it sucks in multitasking compared to symbain maemo etc...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Has it never happened to any1 where you minimise an app and use some other app and when you want to return to the 1st app it would have been closed?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] taaviu:
Without jokes...all SYmbian apps are about less than 2Mb. A ll l android apps are minimum 2-3Mb...good apps about 10 Mb. This need much ram...and this is already phone manufacturer fault.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Well i agree with this. Maybe this is the reason. But symbain too has bigger apps albiet not as big as android. It still multitasked.

Thanks.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] taaviu:
:)

Low ram problems are seriously phone manufacturers fault and if you surfing around android phone forums, you'll find every second complaining about low ram problems. Agreed with that. Again about multasking...but maybe its stock phone problems....i dont know...because im never used any stock android- its crap with stock :)

Im personally can tell you-my android phone multitasking (as much I need it) working fine, offcourse im with rooted phone.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Even i am on a custom rom...Custom roms do give better multitasking than stock ones. Multitasking does work when using small apps but its just that i get frustrated after getting a game closed when minimised.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] taaviu:
Give me please some example how your phone multitasking working and give me please example how it should be work? Thanx :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Ex: I am playing temple run game. I get a message. I minimise game and reply to message. Then i try to open temple run again. Some times it resumes where i left and sometimes it would have closed and starts all over.

It also happens with opera. I will be browsing and minimise it. Opera acts in a completely different way. The page loading stops and if i try to open opera it would get force closd. Then again it maybe opera only.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
I did agree that mulitasking works when using small apps. So it maybe true that games like templerun which are >20 mb may prove too much for the ram in our phones to keep in background.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] taaviu:
Thats my point :)

Agree with you...big apps causes problems. I can recommend you "ram manager".
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Does it really help??
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] taaviu:
its worth to try :) Free version also.

Like i said before...i dont play games, and my phone multitasking works fine. Yes and im also used this app....and there is difference between setting and yes it helped me.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Sure will try it then and post what happens.Thanks btw.

And thank you very much for inaugurating my thanks meter.:P

EDIT: Ram manager did improve multitasking... But in the pro version...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] drafha:
Agree with you, if I can give thumb to your comment I will.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] georgeiulian89:
I have used Symbian for the last 5 years,and trust me,the multitasking in Android is much better,the real problem is the phone RAM,get a phone with 1 or 2 gb of RAM and then you can see the real multitasking of Android.I'm using a Neo with stock rom,and i have problems only when i'm playing games that needs a lot of ram,otherwise,for me,multitasking is working perfectly (for example i can watch youtube video,pause the video browse the internet,return to youtube and resume from where i've paused without any problem).So this is a problem with phone manufacturers,not with the OS.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Suranjan16049:
me too don't like d way android multitasks..... I hv got one c5-00 5mp s60 v3 and a neo v... Even if i open 5 apps on my c5 my phone doesn't lag at all or close any app for ram.... But in my neo v it starts to lag if i open two or 3 apps at 1 ghz and it closes all d apps... I got my phone ics pre-installed ..... Don't know about gb..... Can anyone tell why this happens?

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i agree with u only at one point.. An android device must hv at least 1 gb of ram to work properly... This is a huge drawback of android os... Only bcz of this many people like symbian over android... And d second thing is battery of course... But for me i can live with d battery backup Android offers...

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this happens wen u don't use d 1st app for a long time.. I think android have got its own brain....and simply i don't like it... When i try to download anything using opera this happens... Very annoying
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Alarmmy:
I have a nokia express music 5800, and a nokia N97 mini. And they are nothing to compare with my current Galaxy S2. I needed to factory reset them every 3-4 months or they would be lag as hell or frozen when you opened 2-3 apps.

For Android 4.0 and above, i open a web page, then i reply a sms during waiting it to load. When im done with texting, i open the browser and my web site finished loading. It never terminates by it self. When i play game, i go back to home screen to check my SMS, then i go back to play game, and my game still there. So, that's why i said what you wrote was non sense.

Maybe you need a newer Android phone.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] darkerm:
I used a lot Symbian/Nokia devices(more than 7 Symbian OS S40, S60 S90 etc) and still using them but Neo is my Primary Phone :D

I agree that Symbian's Multitasking is way better than any Mobile OS.

Symbian is called the King of Multitasking.

Read this to know more

http://nokiarules.wordpress.com/201...e-than-20-applications-running-in-background/
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Well this is the neo forum. So naturally a question in this forum will be regarding either a neo/neo v/neo l. A sgs2 had more than twice better specs than a neo v so obviously will multitask much better.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Agreed...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Agreed multitasking works like a charm but only on smaller apps...Well the fault seems to be those big games that hog memory...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Alarmmy:
You still dont get the point. You wrote that Android had bad multitasking. But it is not. It is not about Android, it is about your phone! You cannot say in general that Android is bad at multitasking while it is your phone's fault that it is not strong enough to keep up.

It is just like you running a pentium 3 PC, and you say that Windows is bad at multitasking.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
I do get the point. But its just that symbain has such good multitasking at much lower specs. So when android is compared to symbian i can tell that android has bad multitasking.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] unisol107:
guys...to interrupt in...i have used four OS for 10 years...two being symbian, one nokia's proprietary java s40...linux based maemo(nokia n900) and now android and believe me...if i have seen real multitasking on any OS then it is maemo5 and then symbian.

they have real multitasking in the sense that the apps that we minimize are running in background and performing their tasks in real time without being paused...if anybody here doesnt agree with me...then he has never heard of nokia n900...go and watch how it multitasks on youtube...even a video playing on the media player keeps playing when you minimize it...you can see any app running in real time in the thumbnail preview in task manager screen...not just paused screenshots. i can say this bcoz i have used this device for 3 years and it is one of the best hackable phones.

maemo has a vast community supporting it till now after nokia dumped the OS.

symbian too has very great multitasking capabilities and if given new age hardware...it can prove itself....however it is closed source OS.

So...maemo and symbian both being great OS were ditched by unscrupulous policies of nokia and they are facing the consequences also...they are going to die with microsoft.

its a pity that a platform with so much potential gets abandoned due to sheer marketing strategies.

if maemo could be ported to devices with high end hardware it can surely become one of the choices for power users....only some tinkering with the code will be needed and our great devs here are experts in that...but unfortunately none seems to bother for it...or it has become outdated from a developer's perspective.

so mates...even if android has vast capabilities...its approach towards multitasking is different...and nowhere as good as on maemo and symbian.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] darkerm:
I have this Badass Nokia and do you know how much power it got?

look at this:

OS Symbian OS v7.0s, Series 60 v2.0 UI CPU 104 MHz ARM 9RAM: 10 MB

The surprising thing is that it can

1. Run an 2 MB+ Theme (running with a lot of icon),

2. TTpod(Song is playing in Background),

3. File manager,

4. Opera/Uc browser

5. and some little app in the same time with just only 10 MB of RAM and 104 MHz Cpu!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
100% agreed..............:laugh:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
YO!You really drove my point home... Such specs did superb multitasking while our androids cant........
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] georgeiulian89:
Comparing Symbian 7 with Android 4 is like comparing Windows 98 with Windows 7 :rolleyes: At least you could compare Symbian 9 or Symbian Belle,but really,Symbian 7? I've had a Nokia 6110 Navigator with Symbian 9 (s60v3) with 64 mb of ram and 369 mhz processor,and trust me,if i was using a more complex theme,it was impossible for me to use music player and UC Browser at the same time.If i was using default theme,no problem...So,this depends on RAM,not on OS.Is just like you're comparing Windows 7 on a 2 ghz single core processor with 512 mb of ram with Windows 7 on a 2.5 ghz quad core processor with 8 gb of ram...You'll have the same experience? definitely no. The same story is also with Android.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] darkerm:
Dude, I just made a little demonstration about how symbian can handle multitasking with low ram and such but I am not saying that Symbian is better then Android :D

Android is the best mobile os I have ever had :thumbup:

Btw, I used many different mobile with many different os even iPhone but Android is the one that match my style.

;)

Sent From Xperia Neo
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] poyensa:
moved thread to General Section. Please continue this nice discussion :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Aarush:
Maemo was the best thing Nokia had ever done, hands down it was the best in multitasking

they dropped the axe on their own foot by dropping it

actually this discussion is pretty legit, the multitasking in android is nowhere near maemo!

you could dual boot android and maemo on it.

it was just like a palmtop running an OS like windows with all its capabilities

and you can do amazing stuff with the n900 still !
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Well i have never used or seen a maemo in action...But judging from what all of you guys are telling it must be better than symbian smartphones...

Then again my mind wonders why nokia just completely abandoned them...:laugh:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
It sure would have been nice to have a phone with android ecosystem and symbian multitasking.........
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] DeathCzar:
Thing is android is a much heavier system than Symbian. Symbian being old and designed to run on what is now considered as Neanderthal hardware, it managed Windows like multi-tasking.

But the recent editions of Symbian killed it. Every n8 user complains that his phone lags. Andlike not our Sony stock 4.0.3 ics lags, real bad lags.

Even the latest 1ghz Symbian belle devices by Nokia lag.

That type of multitasking is good. But when u have little apps. Which was the case with old Nokia phones. The newer Nokia's which have hundreds of apps, lag like a turtle and snail hybrid!

But with over 50 apps installed on my 1ghz android I used to face lesser lags even on 4.0.3 update.

So we are actually blessed that android doesn't handle multitasking like Symbian. If it did, I'd probably be an Apple/ Nokia user.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] darkerm:
@DeathCzar: You got an interesting point there buddy ;)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
Yep... Have to agree with you on that...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] mateusdalmeida:
Really, multitasking on symbian s60 and amazing compared to Android, my previous phone was a Nokia 6700S, I left him a video by clicking on the YouTube app and access the Internet by going to opera, my neo do this if the video does not load ..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Madaditya:
I think a little playing with the ps command in android,locking apps in memory and configuring Lmk dynamically via an app by a great dev can do this.

Just an idea which can be thought over.

However have you tried hacking services.jar using zepplinrox' ultimatic jar patcher?

It atleast increases the number of apps that stay active and running than stock,but yes you dont decice what runs and for What duration,the os is the only SUperUser here.

Btw those trying to teach the OP about pressing the Home button and doing multi taskin,i think hes quite experienced to know how multi taskin actually works on android,get a Symbian youtube video to know what he wants to convey :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ekerbuddyeker:
http://www.4-traders.com/AT-T-INC-1...lable-Nov-9-Pre-Orders-Begin-Oct-25-15415893/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] exparanoia:
Wow, why so late for AT&T?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ekerbuddyeker:
really annoying
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Milkman00:
I could be blind, but I don't see where AT&T said Nov 9th???
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] VTEChump:
Takes time to make sure all that crapware is installed and working. AGGGGGHHHHH, what a joke! I wish the international version supported LTE here in the states.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Itchiee:
http://www.androidauthority.com/att-samsung-galaxy-note-2-price-release-date-125124/

"AT&T Announces Samsung Galaxy Note II Available Nov. 9, Pre-orders Begin Oct. 25

Beginning Nov. 9 customers interested in picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note® II will be able to purchase one for $299.99 with a two-year agreement in all AT&T* stores and online. Online pre-orders for this highly anticipated device are planned for Oct. 25 at www.att.com/galaxynoteii."
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] diehardbattery:
Well, this puts me in a bind... I signed up with AT&T on Oct. 5th (just before they reduced the return time to 14 days). Was hoping it would get released on or before Nov. 5th so I could exchange my current phone (minus the $35 restocking fee). Would preordering still make me eligible for the $299 price as long as I returned my current phone before Nov. 5th? Sounds to me like I might have to go phoneless for those 4 days...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] spycedtx:
Best bet is to always call support or see a store rep for accurate answers. And extra friendly can go a long way with the reps who get yelled at all day.

Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Milkman00:
I saw that, but I didn't see an official AT&T announcement on the AT&T page.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] diehardbattery:
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?p...ticleid=35523&mapcode=consumer|mobile-devices
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] chrispyutec:
Can't believe AT&T is slower to release than T-Mobile. I had always looked at AT&T as being the big dog on the block, but it appears otherwise now.

I know we want to beat up AT&T because we don't like to wait for our new toys, but d*** they are being slow, and releasing after the smaller providers is just crazy. I sure wished the international was LTE because I would pay the difference and never look back.

AT&T you s*** a** !!!!