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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jaggyjagz:
How is the AT&T version at least 3.5G on tmobile? It will only get edge speeds for data without AWS. And why wouldn't the tmobile phone get 3.5G on at&t? I believe it should get at least HSPA+ speeds, shouldn't it?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] TEKHD:
HSPA+ IS 3.5G my friend... LTE=4G
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jaggyjagz:
You didn't answer my question at all - How is the AT&T version at least 3.5G (HSPA+) on tmobile without AWS? That isn't possible. It doesn't support AWS. It won't support 3.5G/HSPA+.

Secondly, why wouldn't the Tmobile phone get 3.5G on AT&T? It should have enough of the frequencies to get HSPA+ speeds as far as I'm aware.

Are you completely mistaken or am I seriously misinformed via all the threads here?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] prepaidguy9081:
Im on a tmobile note on the new inyernational port. I show 3g, h, and h+
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] TEKHD:
Note 1 does get 3.5G on T-Mobile with a modem flash... As well as the Note 2 can (with a modem flash) also LTE is unlocked on the AT&T version, so that means you can get LTE at least on AT&T of course and with the modem flash you can get HSPA+ on T-Mobile like my note 1... Now, Seen various post from the t-mobile version claiming getting only edge on AT&T some others claiming actually getting 3.5G (HSPA+) I even asked for screenshots (as evidence) to someone and I was backfired... So... Assuming the t-mobile version does get 3.5G on AT&T without flashing anything else or by flashing a modem too... The AT&T variant is still the best choice since you can have LTE on AT&T and HSPA+ on T-Mobile were the T-Mobile variant is stock in HSPA+ on both sides...

Edit... Confirmed 3/1... I would say... T-mobile variant does get 3.5G on AT&T... So it gets 3.5G on both sides of the fence... While the AT&T variant LTE on one side and 3.5G on the other...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] tchort:
So I just wanted make sure I got this... If I got an AT&T Note II, put a T-Mobile SIM in it, without rooting/flashing anything on it should work on T-Mobile HSPA+ or do I need to flash T-Mobile modem in order for AT&T Note II to work on T-Mobile HSPA+?

I'm on T-Mobile but have an opportunity to get Note 2, so planning on picking one up today.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] TEKHD:
Yes, you need to flash modem... Otherwise it will be on t-mobile edge
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] tchort:
Thanks, also after t-mobile modem is flashed, I can flash t-mobile roms on it to get wifi calling? or need to stick with at&t roms?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] TEKHD:
If you have a t-mobile sim... Yes, you can use wifi calling from t-mobile roms but if you are asking if you can use an at&t sim with wifi calling then the answer is no... Wifi calling only works with t-mobile customers...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jaggyjagz:
We aren't talking about the Note 1 - We are talking about the Note 2.

Secondly, you are wrong. The AT&T phone will ONLY get EDGE speeds with t-mobile, not HSPA+ as you are saying. (Unless, you flash the AT&T phone & the flash works). The AT&T phone is NOT AWS capable and does not support the 1700 band. You are giving false information here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] tchort:
Yep, I'm a T-Mobile customer, so idea is to get AT&T Note II, unlock it, pop tmobile sim in it and use it on T-Mobile network. So sounds like best case is unlock it, flash t-mobile modem, t-mobile rom and i'm good to go..

Thanks for info..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] TEKHD:
FALSE INFORMATION??? If you flash the modem, it gets HSPA+, where the hell is the false information... Did you read what I wrote? JUST LIKE THE NOTE 1
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] SMARTPHONEPC:
Why do you want to get the AT&T Note II over T-Mobile's to use on T-Mobile?:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1970661&page=5
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] SMARTPHONEPC:
What about the 42Mbps HSPA+ on T-Mobile vs 21Mbps HSPA+ on AT&T issue that people used to bring up? Is this modem flash problematic in terms of warranty or updates-could you link us on that for those interested?

The AT&T model is $650 vs $700 on T-Mobile currently so if they truly are hardware identical..

BTW, doesn't the T-Mobile come with 50 GB Dropbox & headphones unlike AT&T (for those that value that)?

So I assume you disagree with http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1970661&page=5 ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] TEKHD:
The $50 premium has been well criticized... As well as the missing 50gb dropbox on AT&T... (that you can get as I did by flashing any international rom) anyway... I can confirm there are no headsets on the AT&T... Headsets come with the t-mobile version? They sure don't justify the $50 dollar premium. But yes they are truly identical, only software controlled by their respective carriers... And yes, I disagree... I can honestly say exactly what I mentioned on my previous post, Right now... The AT&T version at least has the LTE radio unlocked (for AT&T) ... If the T-mobile version will ever have the LTE Radio unlocked, remains a huge question... We can only hope that it will... Regarding the modem flash, you can flash the t-mobile modem on the att variant and you will get 3.5G (HSPA+) What I am waiting for is for an Hybrid modem (as there is for the Note 1) that works for T-Mobile and AT&T... So we can just add a dual sim card adapter (like the one I ordered from ebay) and you can just swap sims by an app... And you will be able to switch sim cards without the need to swap sim physically and without the need to flash modems... So the hybrid modem is what we should all be waiting for... We all have the same phone guys...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] SMARTPHONEPC:
Headphones in T-Mobile unboxing linked in my last post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7rplDuYLOg

What about the 42Mbps HSPA+ on T-Mobile vs 21Mbps HSPA+ on AT&T issue that people used to bring up? Is this modem flash problematic in terms of warranty or updates-could you link us on that for those interested?

Regarding LTE on T-Mobile: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34464925&postcount=43

Personally I don't think I want to go F'ing up my warranty until I have my Note3 (or another Note2 replacement)..:cool:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jslappa:
What say actual users?

My problem is that I have read so many posts on multiple android-centric sites, and everyone tells a different story.

It appears that the N7105 ROM is the only one that can visually show you the steps from 3G to H to H+ to LTE. Has anyone seen "LTE" on their T-Mobile Note 2 while on AT&T? Whether you have or have not, please list as much detail as possible. I'll go first...

I have the T-Mobile Note 2. I have a family plan with AT&T, and a T-Mobile prepay SIM.

Flashed with N7105 (International LTE) ROM

CWM

Stock Modem

First let me preface by saying that I do NOT have LTE in my area. The closest town with AT&T LTE is about 45 minutes away. But I can absolutely confirm that I get 3G, H and H+ on AT&T with my T-Mobile Note 2. I also can confirm that I get 3G and 3.5G on T-Mobile.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] SMARTPHONEPC:
As I understand it, the T-Mobile LTE hardware has been disabled but is expected to be enabled via OTA update in 2013. I haven't heard anyone being able to enable it yet so if enabled please post link.

Refs:

http://www.autoomobile.com/news/tmobile-samsung-galaxy-note-2-lte-2/1008173/

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/25/3554328/t-mobile-galaxy-note-ii-lte-support

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6386/samsung-galaxy-note-2-review-t-mobile-/9

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34464925&postcount=43

Practically speaking I'm going to give T-Mobile a full trial as in my tests where I primarily use it T-Mobile seems to offer best avg speeds with the most flexible plans. Verizon's LTE can peak faster outdoors in my neighborhood but its avg speeds are not meaningfully faster & surprisingly as LTE is supposed to penetrate buildings better was practically unusable indoors while T-Mobile was still solid indoors in my neighborhood tests..I will continue testing here as I now have family & friends with devices on every major carrier.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jslappa:
I hit the thanks, and will keep an eye out for your impressions.

This was the exact response I read that led me to believe the T-Mobile Note 2 (so long as it was carrier unlocked) has the following:

1. T-Mobile 3G, 21Mbps, 42Mbps

2. AT&T 3G, 21Mbps, LTE

Then, when T-Mobile finally brings LTE on line, an update will enable T-Mobile LTE, giving it's Note 2 the best options. But this thread makes it sound like you cannot get AT&T LTE even if the T-Mobile Note 2 is unlocked. What seems clear is that the AT&T Note 2 does not have the 1700 Mhz UMTS, as seen on AT&T's site.

http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/samsung/galaxy-note-ii-titanium-gray.html#fbid=InZs7e4SiEk

furthermore, Brian Klug at Anandtech went so far as to posit that he saw no reason why an unlocked T-Mobile Note 2 couldn't run on AT&T's LTE. There's got to be one person who has a T-Mobile Note 2 unlocked who can check to see if LTE is enabled for AT&T. if so, the T-Mobile model may be the better performer. It was also interesting to note that the same referenced Anandtech article suggested that it may be impossible to tell exactly what radios were or were not in any given carrier-branded Note 2 simply by looking at the servicemode. It seems all the models' data is aggregated there, and not carrier-specific.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] SMARTPHONEPC:
Last post I mentioned "As I understand it, the T-Mobile LTE hardware has been disabled but is expected to be enabled via OTA update in 2013. I haven't heard anyone being able to enable it yet so if enabled please post link."

There have been posters with the T-Mobile Note 2 running HSPA+ on AT&T but I haven't seen anyone report LTE on their T-Mobile Note2 yet as the LTE hardware remains "dormant" until perhaps the expected 2013 T-Mobile OTA update..

Let us know if anyone knows otherwise but so far I'm still leaning toward picking up the T-Mobile Note2 by December 1st particularly if it gets the official multi-view update..The Ink effect update also looks cool (but not as functional as the advertised split-screen mult-view mult-tasking or the advertised screen recorder function should that ever arrive..)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] distortedloop:
I've got an unlocked T-Mobile Note 2. Stock, but rooted. Unlocked via cellunlockr.

With my AT&T SIM in it, it definitely gets AT&T HSPA+ service. It performs the same on speedtest as my HTC One X.

AT&T LTE hasn't made it to my party of Los Angeles yet, but if I get a chance to go over the hill this weekend, I'll give the AT&T a try and will report back.

I'm really impressed with T-Mobile's 4G, it's just about as fast as my Verizon LTE phone everywhere I go. Not as good at pending into buildings, though, but neither is AT&T.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jslappa:
Wish I was at home. Im in a damn line at Toys R Us trying to score sine deals for the kids. But my Note 2, Moga controller and my freaking Westone ES5's have me just as comfortable as can be. And thus 3100mAh battery has me not worried in the least about my battery dying!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jlczl:
Yes. False information. The at&t version does not have the AWS bands that T-Mobile customers need to achieve 3.5g aka hspa+. No flash will change that hardware limitation. If you have any proof to the contrary please post it for the benefit of the community.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] TEKHD:
Using it right now, with t-mobile modem... No hardware limitation, is the SAME phone... Nobody understands is the same phone for every carrier... Lol... Exactly as Note 1... See youtube my friend... Note 1 can't be done too? Right? Same phone on all gsm carriers, except t-Mobile's note 2 is crippled with LTE disabled...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jlczl:
Link or screen shot?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] prepaidguy9081:
Hoping that the locked lte is unlockable in the future. But on straight talk I dont need it currently
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mxmarcus:
Do I need to unlock the t-Mobile phone when using straight talk (at&t)?

Yes I have the note 2 t-Mobile but would love to go prepaid. Straight Talk in my area runs on at&t because T-Mobile is spotty
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] prepaidguy9081:
Yes
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jlczl:
Still waiting on the link or screen shot proving this.

By the way, I noticed you didn't get an answer to you're question in this thread where you're looking for a way to get t-mobile 3g on your at&t Note 2:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1993212

Nor did you get an answer here, where you state you dont have it working either:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2002790
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] prepaidguy9081:
For an att sim card from straight talj

4g h and h+ working [forgive me I forget the correct full names hspda or somthin]

I have root

I flashed any tmobile rom ive tried frosty. Jedi. Xquizit. Intwrnational port.

Programed att straight talk apn

Thats it

No modem needed

Now for lte idk. I dont worry about it cuz straight talk dosent use lte
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] TEKHD:
I did it myself... I finally got the dual sim adapter, so I don't even have to swap sims, both sims are always on the phone... Just flash the tmobile modem and done... No special procedure... I have been using a t-mobile rom, with wifi calling, the issue is that there is no tmobile rom with wifi calling and multi window... If I want multi window I have to use the International rom, and If I want wifi calling I have to use the tmobile rom, there is no rom with both! Yet... (until the multi window update ota get to tmobile...) what I am waiting for is for a hybrid modem that let us get LTE on AT&T and 3.5G on Tmobile, because with the tmobile modem we get 3.5G on both carriers... (HSPA+) no LTE on AT&T... Anyway... I have been doing speedtest with LTE and 3.5G on AT&T and there is no difference (at least were I am located)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] _Dennis_:
I am going out on a limb here but if you don't see a difference between HSPA+ and LTE then either:

1) The LTE sucks where you are

Or

2) The LTE you are observing is actually HSPA+

Does AT&T show a difference on the notification bar? I have no idea since I am on T-mobile.

Can you verify also that you get HSPA+ on T-mobile on the 1700 band vice the 1900 band? T-mobile is refarming their 3G/4G to 1700/2100 and 1900 bands.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] prepaidguy9081:
Xquizit has both. Install version 4 set up wifi calling cuz the menus gone in v6 bit itll work and multi windo controle has been added.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] distortedloop:
My thoughts exactly about TEKHD's LTE/HSPA+ comments. Re: notification bar differences, would the T-Mobile's framework file have the icons for AT&T-related signal indicators? I don't recall noticing anything different when I had my AT&T SIM in my unlocked T889...IIRC, it showed 4G when i was clearly on a 3.5G AT&T signal (4-5Mb/s speeds).

Re: your last sentence, can you explain how to check that? Where would I go to see what band my current signal is using?

Thx.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] _Dennis_:
Not sure. I would just try to use a different phone. One with only 1900mhz and no aws support.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] TEKHD:
Confirmed working International ROM N7105 on AT&T I317 Note 2... Same hardware as I mentioned a million times... ROM will be posted in DEV section soon... Now AT&T users will be able to interchange knowledge and flashable zips between international Note 2 and US Domestic Note 2... Note 2 forums will soon melt together for the benefit of all of us... Not sure where T-Mobile's Note 2 will be at the end... Lets hope it also get good news later on...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31627542
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] prepaidguy9081:
Word :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] _Dennis_:
The ROMS between AT&T, 7105, T-mobile, and Sprint have all heen used interchangeably in the T-mobile dev section. We just reflash our modem (or the dev pulls the modem out of the ROM so we leave ours alone). Thing is flashing the wrong modem will likely kill ur imei or not allow you to get cell signal at a minimum. By saying ROMs are interchangeable you are not telling us anything new.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] acey_zero:
Wow, this is amazing. So the AT&T version is pentaband too, it just has some of the bands disabled in software? And with confirmation that the international roms can be loaded on the AT&T version, it sounds like that is the version to get!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkshado:
Possible lead?

I don't have a Note II yet, so keep in mind that the following is a complete shot in the dark, untested, and so on.

To try this out you'll need:

a SIM-unlocked, rooted SGH-T889/T889V

a text editor

adb

a known working LTE micro-SIM with proper plan provisioning

LTE coverage

Re-applying the CSC will factory reset the phone. Keep in mind that it may also relock it. Update: It doesn't with the ServiceMode menu unlock method.

Background: I've been following all the T889 LTE discussion for the last few days; I'm using Virgin Mobile Canada (which would normally make the I317M my model of interest) but I also have a T-Mobile USA SIM card for stateside travel, and wouldn't mind being able to switch to Videotron either if the need arose. So AWS HSPA is not entirely a luxury. I also have a modicum of experience with CSC modding. So I decided to download the Odin-flashable ROM for the T889V from Sammobile and poke around.

It turns out there's a line that reads: <CscFeature_Setting_DisableNetworkMode>lte</CscFeature_Setting_DisableNetworkMode> in /system/csc/others.xml and other others.xml files located in the GLW, MCT and VTR CSC folders, in the case of the T889V ROM.

Could this be it? Maybe this only unhides some settings. But I figured I might as well post about it and see where things go. What I'd try:

Remove the lines.

Reboot the phone.

Check network related settings for LTE.

Possibly re-apply CSC as per this post.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] its_dale:
New to android and this forum..

i have a Tmobile unlocked G-Note 2, I have an AT&T SIM card in it and do not get LTE. I work 2 blocks from an ATT LTE tower, and had "LTE" display on my iphone 5, but this unlocked tmobile G-Note 2 only displays "4G", not "LTE".

For those who dont know; ATT's newer phones display either "4G" or "LTE", not both. Many are under the impression that 4G LTE is the same.. that's not the case for ATT. At home, my ATT iphone 5 would display "4G". At work, my iphone 5 would display "LTE". My current Tmobile GNOTE 2 with an ATT sim always displays "4G"
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] TEKHD:
T-Mobile Note 2 has LTE disabled, dormant, offline, whatever you want to call it... at this point in time (maybe forever, hopefully not) you will not be able to get LTE on any carrier. so you are getting 3.5G (HSPA+) no matter if you sit in top of the LTE antenna. By the way... AT&T phones show 4G icon for 3.5G and 4G LTE icon for 4G (LTE)...

This is my speed more or less no matter if getting LTE or 3.5G with AT&T... (I mentioned before it was the same for me in my area when in LTE and 3.5G with AT&T...)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jlczl:
This has gotten way off topic. The op was asking if the t-mobile GN2 worked with at&t's hspa or lte. It was answered factually that it would (hspa), out of the box once unlocked. Then some people (TEKHD) stated the at&t GN2 would also work with t-mobile's hspa which it actually doesn't because it doesn't have the necessary AWS band. Now the fact that at&t's GN2 can be loaded with the N7105's ROM is supposed to prove that it can? It doesn't mean anything to the point of this thread.

You state your speeds while on at&t but the question is, "are you getting T-Mobile hspa+ on your at&t GN2?" as you originally claimed you could?

I have yet to see any proof that this is possible.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] TEKHD:
Buy a Note 2 from your nearest AT&T store and root it, then flash the tmobile modem and you will have your proof... Is out of topic... Sorry! Lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] PaceyPimps:
Yes you can use and unlocked AT&T Note II on T-Mobile but you will not get HSPA+42 only HSPA+21 This is why i like the T-Mobile version better as it will get AT&T HSAP+21 if unlocked but no LTE but will also get HSPA+42 so for prepaid its the best version. What i want to know is how to unlock the LTE i wonder if anyone has successfully flashed an AT&T rom on T-Mobile Note II or vise versa ? Or can you atlease flash the modem
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] prepaidguy9081:
+1 unlocking lte would be phe-nominaly austentagious
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] winlinmac001:
Can't you flash an AT&T firmware on a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 2 handset to get the necessary AT&T LTE Frequencies since the LTE radios on both AT&T's and T-Mobile's Note 2's are the exact same?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ssCISengineer:
You dont have to flash any modems or radios....just unlock the phone!

It takes all of 5 minutes literally!

I put an att sim card in this weekend after unlocking the phone For free all by myself and I can confirm I received not only voice but data as well. Hspa plus on att network

It works
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] distortedloop:
They are not the exact same.

T-mobile's T889 supports LTE on AWS and 700 (band 17).

AT&T's i317 supports LTE on AWS, 700 (band 17) and also on 850 and 1900 (band 2).

Edit: I'm going to back pedal on the below for now. More reading leads me to believe that AT&T only uses 700 & 1700 for LTE, and that the 850/1900 bands are for international use.

So yes, our phone has the ability to work on SOME of AT&T's LTE network, but not all of it; it will just depend on which frequencies they're using in your area. AT&T's large 3G network has been built out originally on 1900, with a hard push to go 850 to improve building penetration a few years ago, I suspect most LTE will be re-farmed on those frequencies; if that's the case, you won't get LTE with our hardware in most areas. I hope I'm wrong!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] winlinmac001:
Is the TMobile LTE Radio capable of handling AT&T's LTE on AWS, 700 (band 17) and also on 850 and 1900 (band 2), provided necessary firmware update pr modded-ROMs enables those frequencies on T-Mobile Note 2's Qualcomm Chipset?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jlczl:
Some people believe so but since the LTE radio on the t889 hasn't been software unlocked by anyone (that I know of), there is no definite answer on that question yet.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] winlinmac001:
But you are not getting LTE at the present moment with AT&T on a Tmobile note 2 handset