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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] marcxs:
16/32/64 GB Note 10.1

I see this in my country too, Switzerland (Europe). Perhaps this will lead to an JB update, who knows...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vertron:
+1

I think the only way to decide if the screen on the N10 is good enough is by seeing it in person.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] saltorio:
Obviously I have yet to see the N10 in person. But having just got my Note 10.1 on Friday, I have to say I'm very impressed with the screen on it. The viewing angles are great (I was showing friends some YouTube vids at a party yesterday while holding it it on my lap, and I could see the screen quite clearly from almost directly above it at nearly a 170-degree angle). Most of my friends (who are big into new tech) thought it was incredibly clear and bright as well.

I've been playing around with it quite a bit, and can easily view and read PDFs of RPG manuals and magazines in full-screen (ie: not zoomed in).

I've seen and played with the iPad 3, and frankly don't see much need for the extra pixels on a 10" screen, as the screen size is really too small to take advantage of them without icons/text being ridiculously small and hard to see.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lord69:
How does sd videos look on a hi-res tablet like nexus 10 compared to note 10.1?

Has anybody watched a dvd for example on ipad 3?how does it look?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
it wont make a huge difference because of the screen size you need to understand the smaller the image the less detail we can see so this resolution is relevent for a HD tv yes there will be a difference between a note and N10 screen but not as much as was between SD and HD more of something like HD and full HD

Also I think we are getting to much into screen resolution processors and UI what matters is whether you like what you see and what you hold and does everything it is suppose to do because the technology is never constant and every month you will have a new more powerful tablet
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lord69:
That's exactly why I asked this. Because dvd content in a 1080p panel isn't a very sharp. So I wanted to know how much this size factor really matter....

Have you experienced this yourself?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] AndroHero:
Call me when the N10 can match this kind of battery life :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jjdevega:
Looks like N10 has been spotted at a local Wal-Mart! Far ahead of schedual for the 13th! It was a 32gb version. Looks like I'll be going to Walmart tomorrow lol

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/0...walmart-ahead-of-official-november-13-launch/

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It comes with a pretty heavy 9000 mah and standby time is at 20.8 days (500hrs) So I hope it does last long like we are getting with our Note. Can't wait to test it out.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ap27:
Early reviews all complain of sluggishness, heat and shorter battery life than our Note. Shorter by about 2 hours.

Even the Nexus 4 had reports of slowness in benchmarks and such.

I hope to god both of these have some kind of software issue that is causing the heat and battery drain. Fix that and these will be absolutely killer.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ultramag69:
Mate, JB was just released for our Note 10.1(N8000) in Germany. This should be followed by the other countries soon but since I've never been patient I flashed the German JB... It has shifted the note into a whole new league... What was good before looks poor in comparison... UI is faster and smoother, new features are awesome and I think, even thought the nexus series is still ahead in the software race, when we catch up it will be light years ahead. Hell, it's light years ahead now...:good::laugh:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sharkeecz:
http://androidheadlines.com/2012/11/tablet-wars-nexus-10-vs-galaxy-note-10-1.html

fight has winner...and it isn't SGN10.1
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Lumsdoni:
I'm in the market for new tablet after my old ipad got stolen and it was this choice.

I thought the N10 was getting my money but now Tesco have taken £80 off, and Samsungs £50 cash back offer suddenly the note looks a bargain at £268. And also looks like Android 4.1.1 is hitting the note soon/already. It's thrown a really spanner into the works.

I'm starting to lean towards the note as the display looks fine to me and the pan function has some real benefit to me.

Written by a million monkeys on a million Chromebooks in the basement of the Googleplex
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
What a useless review. I obviously chose to stick to the Note, but that doesn't make my opinion right either. But the only two criteria on this review appear to be updates and the screen. OK, if those are what's important to you, the choice is obvious. But there are many other factors to be weighed and none of them are really present in the review. No benchmarks. No talk of multitasking. No talk of inter-application work. Really useless.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
Well Note has not won any comparision by tech sites, not will it win any also this is one page test without any parameters which does not have any substantive value, anyways with the JB on note the whole ball game has changed and nexus 10 will have to some catching up.

It ironical that a Nexus tablet should be best when it comes to Android OS but Note wins hands down that says a lots of things one stock Android may be fast but it is by far not the best and samsung has been able to customize Android in a way which Google never even thought about and hence S3 is the highest selling cell phine
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
It's pretty weak on detail but they got the pros and cons right.

N10

Pros

• Powerful Cortex A15 based processor.

• Stunning high resolution display; above full HD and well above anything else out there.

• Latest version of Android, 4.2

Cons

• Phone apps will look even worse on this display.

• What you see is what you get;they’re no extras here

Note 10.1

Pros

• S-Pen and its suite of apps are brilliant

• Pop up apps are great for multi tasking

Cons

• Run of the mill low resolution display

• TouchWiz can be a little heavy at times

• Updates will continue to take a long time

I'd call the performance between the two equal. The N10's got more power but it's used up by pushing an insane amount of pixels. As has been posted before photos, video, and non-computer generated graphics look as good on the Note's display as on a FHD display because of the way they're rendered. Text and computer generated graphics (EG: icons, UI elements) will look better on the N10. If you hold your device 15+" from your eyes they can't process more than 229 PPI at that distance so to a degree anything above that's wasted. And quite a few reviews have begun talking about app incompatibility and awful rendering for apps not capable of supporting the N10's resolution. That'll be corrected over time. Probably the biggest issue not mentioned in the above pros and cons for the N10 is the 32GB fixed storage max of which 20GB is probably available to the user. That's pretty light for a 10" consumption device. So picking one over the other depends on your hot buttons.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] tenderidol:
Fixed/limited storage is less of an issue for tablets with low resolution. What good is that crazy PPI, if you don't have apps/games that could take advantage of it, right? Well, if you look at the size of some of the games that can run at iPad 3 resolution in iTunes, some of them are almost 2GB in size.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
Well people do not buy tablets to use as a photo frame so the insane resolution is not the most important factor in the tablet we still have to wait for actual user reviews which will start coming out next week once the tablet is launched on paper it looks great but thats not always the case in reality so lets wait and watch
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I didn't even think about that. Most of my MKV 1080P full-length movie rips are 10+GB each. If I'm traveling I'd be able to fit two on the N10 or a movie and two TV shows. To get more content on the device I'd probably have to down-scale them. Even streaming 1080P via Wi-FI at full resolution takes a fast and stable connection (EG: not hotels, restaurants, coffee shops, and airports). If not, it ends up down-scaled any way. Does HD video content from Google Play get downloaded at 720P or 1080P? So the biggest advantage of the N10's display will end up being text and UI graphics. I'm sure there will end up being expansion options that use the microUSB port but that's just more stuff to carry and lose. I bet they do end up offering a 64GB version at some point.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dmarco:
Bro, you can't go wrong with the Note 10.1 trust me when I say that it is the most versatile and user friendly tablet ever. Don't get caught up on that whole resolution bull****, our Note is a BEAST!!!

:D

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My thoughts exactly. That review was not only useless, it was also blatantly bias!!

:p
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sharkeecz:
I think so. All opinion are helpfully for somebody with open mind.

I chosen SGN10.1 and I'd do same even GN10 is in the market. S pen is more important for me than resolution.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
I see this posted by many, but I guess I'm different. I really don't use the S pen much at all. It's more a novelty for me. But I still think the Note 10.1 is the better choice for me. Love the multi-tasking, the smoothness and the battery life.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] UndisputedGuy:
Would those who have the Note 10.1 say it's smooth? Lag free? No hangs? Good for Gaming? Have an Asus Transformer and am a bit annoyed with the lag and hangs. Also, what's the Samsung £50 cashback offer?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
Yes, the note is very stable and smooth right out the box. Its version of touchwiz doesn't lag at all. I'm still completely stock and I never experience lag.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] beetmonger:
Meh. No hands on there, like they just read the specs sheet. Seems to be lots of groupthink in reviews these days.

I was pondering this choice and went with the note 10.1 for the s pen functionality and microSD. Coming from a TF101, I'm quite happy with the screen, build quality, and performance.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mi7chy:
Exynos 4412 is clearly superior to Tegra3. I also had a Nexus 7 but sold it because the Note 10.1 is not only faster for all games (unlike Nexus 7 where some games like Nova 3 are jerky), but more stable (unlike Nexus 7 where sometimes, for example, Dead Trigger will hang/wait or close) and the front mount stereo speakers are awesome. Note 10.1 is clearly the current best Android tablet on the market. Make sure you get the 32GB version.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Some of us that have the 3G version (N8000) are running the official JB ROM. Like Demandarin said, even on ICS, the Note was fast and fluid. JB makes it even more so and adds a bunch of new features like S-Voice, more multiview options, and a bunch of productivity enhancing stuff. I've been using it for three days and (knock on wood) haven't experienced a single issue so I'd consider the update tight.

In comparing a N10 to the Note the differences have become even greater because of the Note's JB enhancements. I personally couldn't live without the S-Pen. In JB there are even more and better ways to use the S-Pen. But people use their devices differently. Some people hate overlays like TouchWiz. For purists and those who could care less about S-Pen, the N10's display and direct-from-Google s/w make it a strong choice with great value for money. For people that are really in to getting stuff done with their devices the features Samsung's added to the Note over stock Android make it a strong choice. The N10's weakness is its lack of storage capacity and possible battery life challenges because of the enormous amount of pixels it’s pushing. There are also app compatibility issues for the time being because apps aren't designed to run at the N10's mammoth resolution. The only drawback of the Note is its pretty basic screen resolution. It's fine and only really noticeable on text but it would be nice if it were at least FHD.

I'm assuming you're in the UK. This thread talks about a promo Tesco's currently running.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1981861
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] UndisputedGuy:
Thanks for the replies. The Note seems better in most ways but that screen resolution is so appealing for some reason. Also, I assume the nexus 10 would perform better and it also has support from Gameloft etc. if i'm not mistaken
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dmarco:
Dude, honestly, it seems like you want someone to drag you by the hand ( much like a child ), walk you to the store and force you to buy the Note 10.1 instead of the N10 ( because for some reason you are still so hung up on that stupid resolution thing, when clearly the Note 10.1 is better in every other way) however, we are all grown ups and like to pretty much think for ourselves instead of letting the media tell us to buy this and that. You are getting great input and advise in here from people who know their S#%T yet you still think, Oooh that resolution, so by all means, go and buy the N10 and hopefully you'll realize that you've made a mistake within the allowed time for you to go and exchange your N10 for the Note 10.1, otherwise, that resolution mistake is really going to bite you in the ass bro! :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] UndisputedGuy:
I think I'm being cautious. Would you describe the screen on the 10.1 as bad? I currently have the transformer TF300. It got great reviews and such and was my first tablet purchase but then I found out about the I/O issues and the lags and hangs. Does the Note 10.1 have any similar problems?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's what a review said. I've had mine since August and I agree. It's a great display; better than other similar resolution displays Samsung's used previously. But text and UI elements will look better on a higher resolution display. But I'm not willing to give up S-Pen and multiview to get more pixels.

"Coming after the pixel-packed Full HD screens that we’ve found on Acer’s Iconia Tab A700 and Asus’ Transformer Pad Infinity 700, the Samsung’s 1,280 x 800 pixel display also appears mundane. The only compensation is the quality on offer; with a maximum brightness of 414cd/m2, a contrast ratio of 828:1, wide viewing angles and vibrant colours, it’s by no means a bad screen - the only thing lacking is pixels."

You'll have no problems with IO or multitasking with the Note. As an example here's something I was doing the other night. I was downloading a 850MB file from Samsung Media Hub while at the same time watching a movie on my TV being broadcast from my tablet to my AllShare Cast dongle. While surfing the web too. Exynos Quad is a beast and the Note has 2GB of RAM which really should be the standard for a multi-use tablet.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] UndisputedGuy:
How many apps have you got? When I do a factory reset my tablet is quite smooth, it's only after I put widgets and games back on does the lag resume
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I have a 100+ apps loaded and 30+ home screen widgets. People here laughed because I have zero blank space on any of my home pages. Here's a video I took a while ago while it was still on ICS. It's far faster and smoother post-JB.

[YOUTUBE]UDvXvoAgAT8[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Magnesus:
Fortunately Note 10.1 has none of such problems.

I was suprised because I was used to I/O issues on TF101 and thought they are software problems.

The screen on Note 10.1 is better than on TF101. It's quite good, proper saturation of colors, good black (for an IPS screen, some PVAs have better and OLED should win over them all).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] UndisputedGuy:
Wow. Saw your other video as well. Just having appy gamer, appy geek and news international widgets on my homescreen makes the tablet lag. Has JB removed the slight lag shown in the video?

Also, how's gaming? Does Shadowgun dead zones beta run well on the Note? How are gameloft games? Are they optimised well enough? The 3 gameloft games I've got on my tablet don't even run that well, don't have as good graphics as possible and lag quite a bit. At the moment, none of go past the loading screens
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Yes. Shockingly so. I'm kind of an extreme example because of the number of widgets I use so even on ICS people with less heavy home pages than mine probably had better performance.

Demandarin could probably answer better than I can because he's more of a heavy gamer. The N10 and Note are both Exynos/Mali so compatibility should be similar. Keep in mind a lot of games won't run initially on the N10 until their developers adjust for the mammoth display resolution. Teg3 gaming has its advantages because of the Tegra Zone and unique calls built in to the SoC that developers can use to maximize visuals and performance. But there are quite a few games that don't play at all on Teg3 devices. So I guess it comes down to which games (or "brands") you're most likely to be using.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] UndisputedGuy:
Thanks again. Is there a manual or something of the sort demonstrating the features of the S-pen?

Can that drag and drop image feature you used be used with word apps?

Also, does the Note feel quite cheap and plasticy?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's a link to the PDF of the ICS manual. There's also a user's guide in the Play Store that's more "how to" oriented. I don't know if you can download it to a TF300.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73155531/GT-N8013_English_User_Manual_LGB_F3.pdf

Samsung's use of plastics is almost legend. I don't think it feels "cheap" and I can definately say Samsung devices are durable and survive abuse fairly well. Here's the internals of a Note compared to a TF700. Which looks better made? The spiffy aluminum-back device or the plastic one? ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sdelliott31:
Like many of us, I have had many tablets over the past couple of years, both Apple and Android. There was a time when I thought I'd never get an Android again. That was with the Dell Streaks I believe. Not only do I own the Note 10.1, but I own the Note phone. This is the best tablet I've ever owned, period.

Front speakers are Awesome. Screen is better than iPads 1 and 2 as well as TF 101 and 201. GPS is great. Battery life is amazing. I have zero lag and I'm on stock, but deleted some APks. The Spen isn't that big to me, but when I do us it it is flawless. Multi pane beautiful. Games are sweet. Unlike the transformers, this doesn't have that hiccup on screen flip. I had each on custom ROMs eve and couldn't get away from the hiccup. 2gb of Ram in the Note 10.1 gives it some staying power.

I'm a fanboy now, admittedly. Don't forget despite the lactic construction, it is very light. The only thing that is just average is the cameras. But still good for tablet standards.

Sent from the Galaxy Note 10.1 Using Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] grandline:
Note 10.1

I think, Note 10.1 is awsome.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mi7chy:
It's a no brainer if you were able to get in on the one day Fry's sale/pricing snafu and Best Buy price match yesterday on the 32GB Galaxy Note 10.1 for $350.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dbairduk:
There are some great prices on the note 10.1, I am still undecided on whoch to get. The £258 Tesco deal on the note is looking very tempting though!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sledgie:
Damn. I would have loved to get another one for a gift. I think i even saw BB sell the 3G version online, or at least Amazon.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] UndisputedGuy:
I recently used a nexus7 and was quite impressed. Would people say the Note 10.1 is as smooth or smoother?

Also, does the Note 10.1 have a floating browser?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ap27:
The Jelly Bean release for the Note adds the floating browser. With JB it rivals the smoothness the N7, though its certainly no slouch with ICS. JB just feels more optimized.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] UndisputedGuy:
Thanks for that answer. Using the nexus 7 surprised me with how smooth it was and I'd expect the nexus 10 to be just as, if not, smoother than the nexus 7 so I was wondering for comparisons sake. I guess the many extra features make up for lag as long as it isn't too bad
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
The wild card is the massive amount of pixels the N10 has to push. It's got a far more powerful CPU/GPU and 2GB of RAM but a display of that resolution is going to need it. The jury's going to be out until the N10 is in people's hand and we see what the real world experience is like. The Note's display resolution isn't something to right home about but from an efficiency and power draw perespective it contributes to its performance.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Blueback22:
I made my decision today and returned my Note. The deciding factor? I hate Touchwiz.

Now if only I could find a N10 at a Walmart ...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] hoss_n2:
Not a good reason, you can easily just disable it, but it is still your choice you are free to decide
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
Games run flawless on my note. I have most of the heavy hitter/graphic intense games. For ex: Dark Night Rises Batman game, sjadowgun beta multiplayer, mass effect, deadspace, Death Dome, Nova3, Dead Trigger, FPSE PlayStation emulator, and more. All games play flawless with no slowdown, lag, or issues.

My Nexus7 is a gaming beast also. I wish they would make Wild Blood compatible with note 10.1. That game plays great on my nexus7 and asG3.

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I agree. Note 10.1 is very smooth on ics. Even with touchwiz. Note will be even faster/more fluid on jb. My nexus7 is very fluid on jb.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] UndisputedGuy:
What do you hate about touchwiz that made you return the tablet? I've not really used touchwiz and don't plan on rooting/installing a custom ROM. Is it really that bad?

Also, thanks demandarin for your answer with relation to gaming. Nice to know. Do the games run with high graphic settings? My transformer annoyingly has low graphics settings for some gameloft games
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mi7chy:
Had both. Note 10.1 is smoother everywhere overall and more stable. Some games on N7 like Nova 3 is not only more jerky but also less stable. Sold the N7 and will be getting the N10 instead.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
It's a personal preference thing really. Some people like naked Android and run ROMs on their devices that remove all the manufacturers customizations. Others run different launchers that hide the overlay. Back in the day when devices were underpowered the overlays caused them to run slow which is why a lot of people got rid of them. If there's a performance difference today it's measurable in milliseconds.

There's a lot of value in what Samsung's added to the Note that won't be in the N10. To me, these things are more important than getting a couple of milliseconds back in transitions and other effects. But as they say, to each their own.

- Multiview (enhanced in JB)

- Pop up play

- S-Pen/S-Note

- AllShare Play and Cast

- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)

- Mini apps (enhanced in JB)

- Enhanced audio and video codec support

- IR port

- Browser h/w acceleration

- S-Voice (added in JB)

- Air View (added in JB)

- Group Cast (added in JB)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ap27:
This.

Hardware is now at a point where a skin that hasn't been properly optimized doesn't completely destroy the user experience.

If you look at the Tab 10.1 and even the Tab 2 10.1, they definitely took a hit in performance due to Touchwiz. The biggest example of this is the Tab 7.7, which was an amazing product, but was ruined by Touchwiz and Honeycomb together.

The Note 10.1 is the first Samsung product I've used where I actually don't mind keeping Touchwiz. It has some useful bits and doesn't make the tablet sluggish.