yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Imoseyon:
that's weird. That should not happen. Kernel doesn't touch /system/bin/su at all...
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Pithism:
also will this work with the 3g model?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] brickedman:
v1.0 is up testing now.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] opz187:
Where is 1.0?

Edit: found it
[Nexus 7 Android Development] unomedmen1:
Link for 1.0 is not in OP, where can we download from?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
Go to rootzwiki then nexus 7 dev and it should be there
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
Updated to V1.0 in OP
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Imoseyon:
oops i "released" 1.0 yesterday but forgot to update my thread on rootz. Lol, doing it now.

v1.0 brings BFQ I/O scheduler, tuned Deadline scheduler, and lkflash script (for flashing future releases).
[Nexus 7 Android Development] unomedmen1:
So far so good, smooth as always. Thanks
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Pithism:
ill ask again my question again,

does this work with the 3g model?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Imoseyon:
I've heard that it does
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
Updated to V1.1 as in the OP and Title

From My Fusioned LG Spectrum Tapatalk Style
[Nexus 7 Android Development] golf60:
Is it possible to include fix permission script inside this kernel?

Thx for this great kernel!!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Tone_Capone:
I can't wait to get undervolting with the checkv script! Easily the most useful feature of this kernel on my Galaxy Nexus!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PsychicJian:
In my Nexus 7 this kernel is a must have!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] opz187:
They're gonna include UV?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] nadiros:
First off - I Iove this kernel on my Gnex. It simply has everything I need. Love using Leantweaks through terminal to adjust as I please, and have never had an issue worth reporting.

I'm just not getting it with this device though. Sure it runs great out of the box as expected, however I can not get frequencies to stick...overclocking dun werk! I have flashed the 1.5ghz power hal and adjusted top end to 1.5 using TricksterMod with no success as well as System Tuner as I believe Imoseyon suggested. No dice. I don't understand Tegra 3 idiosyncrasies or power hal. But why does the clock stick with other kernels?

This is not to complain. Honestly I think if not today then soon this will no doubt be the best kernel for the N7. Funny thing is I want to use it but won't compromise on tweakability lol.

Wish sometimes I could flash n go like regular folks but no.... that's no fun :D

Thanks a ton for your work sir :thumbup:
[Nexus 7 Android Development] wavrunrx:
i was on trinity kernel, which caused my n7 to freeze and reboot once i pulled the OTG cable. because of that, i switched over to leanKernel, and have the same issue !

i've double checked that im currently on LK btw.

is this a known issue w LK, or is something else at play here ?

**edit:

this kernel:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2009702

does not cause the freeze/reboot.

(kernel is located at the bottom of the first post)
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PsychicJian:
Not yet.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Imoseyon:
nadiros,

You gotta flash one of the powerhal zips: http://imoseyon.host4droid.com/grouper/

1.5Ghz version: if you want to OC to 1.5Ghz.

Nofreq version: it will not manipulate your max frequency at all.

Stock version: if you want to stay at 1.3Ghz max.

wavrunx,

That is a known issue. One of these days I will get an OTG cable so I can troubleshoot. :)
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Imoseyon:
v1.2 is up!

http://imoseyon.host4droid.com/grouper/

http://revision.io/embeds/leanKernel-grouper
[Nexus 7 Android Development] wavrunrx:
i live in cupertino;

want me to mail you via usps an otg cable ? (free)

shoot me a pm if you want :good:
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Imoseyon:
wow you're super close, wanna meet for lunch? haha j/k you got a PM
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
updated to latest version 1.2, and cleaned op a little bit
[Nexus 7 Android Development] opz187:
Row scheduler is pretty new.. What's row all about?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ÜBER™:
Read over write. It prioritizes read over write in input/output. Or I/O :)

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jfed:
I dont know if I got the lean kernel... I flashed to the original nexus Rom so I dont know it it is working faster. lol does it work on original rom? I do a lot of work on my tablet and I have to have everything work smoothly so I started yesterday back to the stock rom.

Joe
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
Did you flash the kernel?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jfed:
I downloaded the1.0, 1.1 and 1.2 and flashed them in order. is there another download?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ÜBER™:
Why.. did.. you flash them in order?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jfed:
I thought each download had different info:

Am I wrong? my bad.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ÜBER™:
Lol would you buy an '99 car then gradual buy each year after to get to the latest? :D
[Nexus 7 Android Development] wavrunrx:
LOLLLL

classic :cyclops:
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jfed:
lol I know i was having a senior moment. : )
[Nexus 7 Android Development] CharliesTheMan:
Edit: Mods Please Delete
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Imoseyon:
This test build may fix the OTG reboot problem: http://imoseyon.host4droid.com/grouper/test_builds/lk_nexus7_jb42-v1.2.1.zip

confirmation would be great..
[Nexus 7 Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Hey, something new to test! I will give it a go as soon as I pick a ROM to flash. I just downloaded Jelly bro but was going to switch it up. Nah, double checking my setup now, If its Jellybro and Lean then I will flash it in a few min here....

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[Nexus 7 Android Development] jamminjon82:
Slim bean is really good with this kernel
[Nexus 7 Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Well I haven't slept all night so I couldn't even remember command to get RIL. :rolleyes:

Anyhow I connected to my Galaxy Nexus and One X running JB. Both devices were recognized and I closed both windows before disconnecting from here and no freeze or reboot. I just came right here and posted but I did close out terminal first

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Android Development] shmega:
I seem to be experiencing unusually high battery drain on the latest test build 1.2.2
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
whoa forgot to keep up with this thread! updated op with version 1.3!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] carlz0206:
Re: [ANDROID 4.2.1][KERNEL] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.3, 2/1/13]

Can i use this in tilapia?And multirom?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Imoseyon:
I think so?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] eric-filth:
Re: [ANDROID 4.2.1][KERNEL] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.3, 2/1/13]

How the best way to undervolt this kernel? Because Trickster dont let me do that.

Scripts?

Enviado do meu Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ÜBER™:
LeanKernel doesnt have a UV interface... so no UV is possible.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
updated to version 1.4, updated linaro toolchain, updated some stuff from android, cm, and the mainline linux.

dont forgot to flash powerhal fix for overclocking
[Nexus 7 Android Development] carlz0206:
Re: [ANDROID 4.2.1][KERNEL] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.4, 2/11/13]

1.4 is fast and smooth like butter but it doesnt support multirom:( gonna try this for a couple of days,hope next update i can use it with multirom
[Nexus 7 Android Development] m0nn3:
AW: [ANDROID 4.2.1][KERNEL] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.4, 2/11/13]

Hello, does that Rom support mount USB with an otg cable with out an extra app? Also auto mount USB stick?

Thanks for your work!!!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] opz187:
Imoseyeon.. Leankernel needs some 4.2.2 love! This is the only kernel I use
[Nexus 7 Android Development] stonebear:
The dev reckons 1.4 will work with 422.

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/35483-kerneljb42-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-v14-21012/page__st__350
[Nexus 7 Android Development] i3am5not8real13:
Re: [ANDROID 4.2.1][KERNEL] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.4, 2/11/13]

been using 1.4 on dirty rootbox 2 and dirty aokp 5( both 4.2.2) on multi rom with no problems
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
updated op to version 1.5, merged some android 4.2.2 code
[Nexus 7 Android Development] unomedmen1:
So we can flash this on 4.2.1 right? We DON'T have to be on 4.2.2 for this to with I assume.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
yes it also works with android 4.2.1
[Nexus 7 Android Development] unomedmen1:
Cool, bout to throw it on then. Thanks
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ΦDroid:
Does anyone know if Paranoid Android is based on stock? It's by far my favorite ROM, so I would like to use this kernel with it.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
Re: [ANDROID 4.2.2][KERNEL] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5, 2/19/13]

This kernel works with any rom
[Nexus 7 Android Development] mkhtfld76:
Re: [ANDROID 4.2.2][KERNEL] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5, 2/19/13]

Always come back to LK. Lean and Mean.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] zcostilla:
+1. Same here. I value battery life as my top priority in my tablet.

Zac
[Nexus 7 Android Development] timfimjim:
No it's based on aosp or cm I think
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ezas:
Re: [ANDROID 4.2.2][KERNEL] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5, 2/19/13]

In one sense all ROMs are based on stock. But to answer your question PA is based on AOSP and this kernel will work on it. Most of the kernels will work on most of the ROMs on the N7.

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[Nexus 7 Android Development] waz675:
Re: [ANDROID 4.2.2][KERNEL] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5, 2/19/13]

I'm starting to find the same thing :D
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Cliniclyinsane:
Re: [ANDROID 4.2.2][KERNEL] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5, 2/19/13]

Aosp

Vanilla Rootbox and \m/-kernel
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Imoseyon:
v1.5.4 is up. Should fix OC for those that had trouble going past 1.3Ghz.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
updated op to version 1.5.4
[Nexus 7 Android Development] AssailantLF@gmail.com:
As the developer of this kernel, can you speak about how this compares to Franco kernel? That and this are both boasted as being the quickest and most battery conserving, and they're both recommended for the popular SmoothROM, so I wanted to get your possible thoughts. I know both are fantastic and completely usable, but the nit-picks are where it counts :P
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
well for one im not the dev, imoseyon is, and also why dont you flash it to try it out:D
[Nexus 7 Android Development] OSNPA:
Re: [ANDROID 4.2.2][KERNEL] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

One thing I know, this one supports USB audio, a deciding factor for me.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] AssailantLF@gmail.com:
I ran some comparisons with device boot time and a few bench marks. Franco kernel is good, but Lean kernel just blows it out of the water. On ParanoidAndroid at least.

I was getting scores like franco with 4500ish on Quadrant and 13880ish on Antutu, but with Lean and the exact same settings it was going up to 5144 and 14889. Also boot up was much faster with LK. I know bench marks aren't very official, but they're good enough indicators for me to make a switch when I see a good one.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] mkhtfld76:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

I try different kernels all the time. I always come back to LK though because its fast and smooth and I flash it and forget about it. Everything runs great.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] mkhtfld76:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

Installed quadrant just to post this...130000max,row,interactive gov. nothing tweaked

If it means anything. I don't run benchmarks myself.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] androidkid311:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

Damn! Used to flash this one the gnexus. Nice its here. Will flash this bad boy later :)
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ezas:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

I jump around to different kernels, and I consider this to be the best just flash and run kernel. Not to say that other kernels don't run well with their default settings. But this isn't bogged down with a zillion possible settings.

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[Nexus 7 Android Development] mkhtfld76:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

Exactly. I run most kernels at default settings anyway,but this bad boy is ready to roll right out of the box. Lean and mean. I stream Pandora while web surfing or playing games with no lag. Watch HD movies and TV that are streamed,also. That's the real way to test a kernel. Benchmarks don't mean a thing. L.K. does it all very well.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] AssailantLF@gmail.com:
I've gone from franco.Kernel to LeanKernel to M-Kernel.

Anyone else tried out Lean compared to M-Kernel? It's running just as well and even better in some areas. Default settings because I've never noticed kernel settings in any that I've had.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] putomacao:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

I tested a lot of kernels....and I dont know why I always go back and flash this one.... Maybe because of it`s awesomeness ! :o
[Nexus 7 Android Development] mkhtfld76:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

All of the ones that are still developing are good,motley,faux,m kernel,intersect raven,Franco - they're all good and have all improved. That's development... Hopefully Bricked gets updated soon. Another favorite of mine.

Forgot Saber toothed squirrel... its good too.

And Trinity!!!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ezas:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

^^^^^^^

This

I'm on M-kernel the most, for no good reasons other than it's always worked well for me and I respect the dev. This kernel and Franco are the ones I take for test spins from time to time for various reasons.

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[Nexus 7 Android Development] mkhtfld76:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

Metallice is a great dev. for sure.

Motleys newest release is worth taking for spin if you haven't already.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] spidertop:
Is "USB charging high current mode" enabled?

Because usb current seem to be not enough to charge using Gps
[Nexus 7 Android Development] mkhtfld76:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

TricksterMOD app in the play store is what I use to change any settings. You will need an app of some sort or if youre on a custom ROM look under Performance Settings
[Nexus 7 Android Development] nadiros:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

Is that even an option for the N7? Didn't know... I realize it is for the Gnex but I'd definately use that feature as well on this.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Pielvrx:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

Lost root, anyone else experiencing this. Thx in advance

Edit: downloaded the betas. Now on v 1.54 and working great
[Nexus 7 Android Development] feelpt:
Hi there

Installed this kernel yesterday and I'm very pleased with. Speeds like the top notch kernels and better battery life imo.

However there's something I didn't have with previous kernels, like m kernel or motley... Normally I leave the tablet charging in usb during the night, and 8 hours after it's charged.

With Lean kernel it didn't happen. When I woke up and grabbed the tablet, it was still in 85%. A little strange, because never happened to take so long to full charge.

Is there a reason for this?

In the past I experienced that the longer it takes to charge, the longer it takes to discharge, so this would be a good indicator. But still... One night and no 100%?! Weird
[Nexus 7 Android Development] pughie:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

Not getting that issue at all, this really is just a great kernel
[Nexus 7 Android Development] mkhtfld76:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

*This
[Nexus 7 Android Development] AssailantLF@gmail.com:
Battery issues can happen in any number of different ways, it isn't necessarily your kernel. You might have an app that runs in the background, or background processes, or some setting is switched the wrong way. Your best bet is comparing it to other kernels and maybe checking what's running/installed/using the battery.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] travisxcore:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

Try letting your battery die all the way once in a while too. Keeping your battery <10% or >90% along with not fully cycling it can damage it.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ezas:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

Not wrong but not right either.

There is a difference between damaging a device and something not being the best for it

.

I'm tired and I'm grouchy so I'm not going to explain this. There are very good articles on charging and best practices at the web site batteryuniversity.com

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[Nexus 7 Android Development] 3andala:
Works with Nexus 7 3G ?!

if not will supported in future or not ?

Cheers
[Nexus 7 Android Development] bigrushdog:
Imoseyon, love LK on tuna, just as smooth on grouper. Other kernels have too many buzzwords and bloat for me. This is just smooth and creamy. Keep it up!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] dadeo1111:
batteryuniversity.com is a great resource! Thanks for this link. Settles a debate the wife and I were having. She still wins, of course..but I was proven right. :silly:

And a big thanks also to OP azoller1 for the thread and leankernel dev IMOSEYON for a great, no problems, daily-driver kernel. :good::cowboy:
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ezas:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

Glad you found it helpful. It really explains things well about batteries and the articles are really well written.

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[Nexus 7 Android Development] zorril.nz:
I have a question. I have been using Lean Kernel 0.5 on 4.1.2 - Best kernel I could find for streaming radio while at work.

I have flashed the update to the ROM so now its on 4.2.2 and it appears that whenever the tablet goes to sleep it just fails to buff. I have activated keep wifi on option, disabled conserve battery etc.. Can anyone please recommend to me what else I could do? I have tried multiple kernels and lean still works the best with streaming.

Also: Streaming from my mobile via wifi and using the same app I have no problems!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] opz187:
I have a feature request. Well 2 actually, like everyone else this kernel is my fav. But i really miss the option to disable fsync, and undervolt. Any chance you could ever throw those in imoseyon? This kernel is still so boss even without them
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ezas:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

It's not exactly clear what your problem is. Are you saying that the radio stops playing when the device goes to sleep, or some other issue?

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[Nexus 7 Android Development] zorril.nz:
Yes that is correct. It's almost like the device goes to deep sleep or loses its connection - Yet none of those options are selected.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ezas:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

Are you running a custom ROM?

Is this a Wi-Fi only device?

What is the 'radio' app you are using?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] zorril.nz:
Yes, Cusom ROM is Smooth ROM V5.

Yes this is a WiFi only device

The Application is Tune in Radio Pro.

The application works fine on my Galaxy running off the same network.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ezas:
Smooth ROM . . . Yuck. But I'll give that combo a try and see what I get.

Downloading it now. Are you running any of the powerhal files with leankernel, or any other tweaks system tweaks?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ezas:
I don't have the pro version but Tune-in seems to be working fine here. I installed leankernel in the Smooth ROM 5.0 install and have left everything for the ROM/System/Kernel at default settings. All I did is went through the google setup. Downloaded Tune-In and picked a station. It's been asleep for about 10 minutes now and it's playing fine. Very smooth no glitches at at all.

I'll try it with headphones later tonight and change some settings here and there, load a few more apps, etc
[Nexus 7 Android Development] zorril.nz:
Hey mate, first I wanted to just say thank you very much for your help with this. I didn't expect someone to go to all the trouble of flashing etc, etc.

I cleared all app data on my Tunein app last night and uninstalled, re installed. I also removed 5BG worth of files on the device (just in case). I also wondered if it had something to do with a pesky app running in the background so I installed Greenify (probably not the best app to run to try and eliminate pesky apps but hell, I'm giving anything a go!

What ROM and kernel combo do you run?

I also installed the 1.5ghz Powerhal tweak (Even before the tweak it was doing the same thing).

Thanks,
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ezas:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

Hey I'm glad to help where I can. It doesn't take long to flash a ROM and install a couple of apps. Then it just takes a few minutes to restore a nandroid.

I ran Tune-in for about 1/2hr last night and no problems.

I've been running Dirty AOKP and M-kernel. Though right now I'm on Faux kernel just to try it.

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[Nexus 7 Android Development] sola fide:
Just curious about something: The OP here on XDA has SIO listed as one of the schedulers. However I don't have it listed as an option in the SetCPU app on my N7. Also, on Rootzwiki there is no mention of SIO being in the N7 LK. Is this a mistake in the XDA thread? Or am I just misunderstanding something? Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

It should be an option I'm using trickstermod app though
[Nexus 7 Android Development] sola fide:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

I tried ROM Manager as well and still only shows row and deadline. Did you flash one of the tweaked powerhals as well? Didn't know if it was in one of those.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] azoller1:
Re: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

He must of tooken it out in the newer versions
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ProGameAndy:
AW: [KERNEL][ANDROID 4.2.2] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V1.5.4, 3/2/13]

Do this kernel support cm 10.1 ?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] dakoookie:
Do you read?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] opz187:
Is imoseyon still developing the kernel?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] flaviocc:
This kernel runs on 3G model ? Aka Tilapia :)

Tks very much.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] dadeo1111:
Seems to be..

http://revision.io/embeds/leanKernel-grouper
[Nexus 7 Android Development] hhwong:
just to make sure, it doesn't work with cm does it ?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] opz187:
Of course it does. What made you think it didn't?