yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
I have a build that i just made .....

Its agrabrens device tree

And agrabrens kernel...u wont have any reboots with it ....

Plus video playback will be working....

I have to upload tho....and im not home
[HTC EVO 3D] saboxerman:
I, too, do not want flame wars or anything to that effect. I'm not a troll. To be honest, my experience is all flashing and trying different things to see if I can narrow what issues I have. Basically, most of what lies under the name of something (HBOOT, Kernel, etc) is unknown to be currently. I have a general idea of some.

I only posted what I did as the only thing I did different was change the HBOOT. I figured maybe that had something to do with the flashing process (allowing something to be flashed or not flashed).

Please forgive my transgression. If you look at my history of posting, I do try not to aggravate. It was too my folly thinking this ROM was linked to another (please don't ask me how I came to that conclusion, probably misread something).

Ramjet, per the volume issue, I kept it out of this one, while I experienced it here as well, because I had PM'd someone else and basically came to a dead end as it wasn't a common issue and couldn't be reproduced.

Thank you for explanations as I do read them and try to remember it as I will most likely continue rooting my devices in the future.
[HTC EVO 3D] HammDroid:
I haven't had any reboot issues yet, but looking forward to it nonetheless.
[HTC EVO 3D] ashton4life:
YA! You Tube!!! Video!! I havent had a reboot at all since I installed last night. I havent used the phone that much either. Great news Lens_flare Im looking forward to testing the new upload!:o

Edit: How funny I just said the same thing as HammDroid above me! ^ lol
[HTC EVO 3D] DJB628:
I know I have discussed this before and others have also. Again out of nowhere I am not receiving text, I am able to send but they don't come in, after working fine for a few days now. My question is this, Lens, will a Logcat help you resolve this issue that I am having and others have in the past, or is there something that can be done to avoid this issue. I an all ears hear. I am currently restoring sense again, but there has to be an easier way and a reason why this happens to some and not others ?? Just looking for suggestions, I love this Rom as has been my daily, but I need to be able to get text, as I need it for work. Please advise. :good:
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Just to be clear, my understanding is that the device tree you use may affect whether or not a kernel boots with a particular hboot, and also whether or not features work with a specific device (in our case the Evo 3D), but those are two separate issues that are affected by the device tree used and not the hboot per se.

I've never seen it stated anywhere that the bootloader (hboot) can affect things like video and audio performance once Android has booted, but have asked before if that's possible and never was able to get an answer. Are you saying that is the case and that the bootloader actually affects Android itself beyond the initial boot process?

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
It may....hypothetically.....

All depends on the rom.....my device tree and kernel is now both agrabrens
[HTC EVO 3D] DJB628:
Bump

Any takers on this matter, I know I am not the only one that has this issue. I am back on Sense and no issues, I knew something was wrong this morning, when my phone rang off the hook asking why I never responded to their text, LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Then if that's the case, what is the preferred hboot to use with this ROM? I'm still not clear how a device tree would depend on a specific hboot, or how changing the hboot would affect Android runtime features.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
It doesn't matter for now when I release next build just use whatever u use for agrabrens cm10
[HTC EVO 3D] FatalIll:
ETA on releasing the next build? Im going to wait for the next build to flash this for the first time.
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
Good to know......

The only tine you will get an ETA is if i tell you first lol....

Happens often
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Users are running agrabren's CM10 on pretty much any hboot below 1.58 including 1.04 (ENG), 1.4, and 1.5, which is why I'm confused about a possible dependency between Android itself and the bootloader. When the 1.58 bootloader is installed, the kernel won't boot but the rest of the hboots work fine.

This whole thing started because someone suggested that changing bootloader could fix video and audio problems. That still doesn't sound right to me, but if it's true there might be a specific hboot that works best with a particular ROM.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
No it is possible......its sorta hard to get into it.....

If you want you can gtalk me

Lenssflare@gmail.com

I can help u understand it better
[HTC EVO 3D] greeg32:
Ramjet73, if you don't mind reporting back what you learn, it would be much appreciated. I'm very interested in the answer. Thanks to both of you!
[HTC EVO 3D] Mazda:
This is correct! An HBOOT isn't going to fix issues with a ROM, like video and audio problems........that's just false!
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
Thats not what Dastin said.....

And others....

It depends.....apparently hboot can affect it on certain roms....this is what iv been told
[HTC EVO 3D] Nametaken:
Well that word make sense why my video has been working. I use 1.04 eng. I dont even use its features, it just sounded fancy so I picked it, lol

Or not, just read what Mazda wrote lol. None the less, my video works

Sent from my PG86100 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
OK, I'll try to summarize and lens can make corrections and additions as appropriate.

1. Lens said that the source build process depends on the firmware installed and will not run properly without the correct firmware.

2. For Android, the bootloader (hboot) only "bootstraps" the kernel and does not affect the runtime code for Android, therefore it could not cause ROM problems with audio and video.

3. The device tree used for the source build will determine which code is pulled into the build and that in turn could cause problems with audio and video.

4. Changing bootloaders is required because the offset for the header information in boot.img has changed and the older bootloaders can't handle loading the newer kernels and vice versa.

5. I've tried to find documentation that indicates the bootloader functions like BIOS on a PC, especially for things like the flashing of partitions in Android apps like Flash Image GUI and 4EXT Recovery Updater/Control do, and haven't been able to find anything yet. So far all the documentation I've found says that the hboot only provides the bootloader function for Android, even though it can do many other things when booted directly. It seems like some Android API's for version information and other hardware related functions might interface with the bootloader at run time, especially for ADB support, so if anyone has information on that it would be greatly appreciated.

Feedback/corrections/additions from anyone are welcomed. I started a thread in the General Forum a while ago about this whole question of what the bootloader does and what dependencies Android has on it, but didn't get much feedback there.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] Sinistertensai:
cause logically hboot would effect an app in read only memory, smh...
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
....firmware doesnt affect source build process....may affect firmware thats the rom is on however
[HTC EVO 3D] Sinistertensai:
you're releasing a rom, not a factory image. that wouldnt "effect" up lever parts on the device, youre writing to the ROM read only memory and kernel. hboot would have nothing to do with playback it's all in the libs like on windows if you have a registry error and you upgrade DOS it's not going to fix the error.
[HTC EVO 3D] Mazda:
EXACTLY!!! :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Sinistertensai:
who told you that hboot would effect videoplay back?
[HTC EVO 3D] Sinistertensai:
some advice dont listen to them anymore they'll end up making you look like a complete dumbass, just cause some one has a title doesn't mean they know something. im an RD if I told you the sky is pink even though it looks blue would you still believe me?
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
Dastin.....

And by firmware....meant in etc/firmware

Plus not sure why but people are saying that users on hboot 1.04 eng

Are getting video playback....working

I cant explain it...i dont think it has anything to do with hboot either but i dont know lol ...

All i know is i got a new build ...

With it working.....
[HTC EVO 3D] Kahroo:
So a update should be out sometime tonight?

Sent from my PG86100
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
We will see....
[HTC EVO 3D] Nametaken:
My set up is just cg kernel and hboot 1.04 eng. I have video, everything else is stock. Flash 11 was installed with a back up I had. Other than that, everything else is stock. Hopefully that little bit of info helps out.

Side note, when my phone sleeps, the screen will turn on but is just black. Can anything I mentioned here cause that?

Sent from my PG86100 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
I suspect that the "fixes" that people are claiming have more to do with clearing cache+dalvik after changing bootloaders or a fresh install of the ROM with proper wiping of the partitions. I prefer the 1.04 engineering (ENG) bootloader when I'm not running ROM's that require the 1.58 version, but users shouldn't install that version thinking it is going to fix problems with the ROM.

Thank you for changing the device tree used to resolve the video and audio issues as that makes much more sense to me. ;)

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] mryanfrost:
I didn't experience any until I installed SwiftKey. I'm not too sure what changed but I also changed the governor.

It usually reboots when I press power to wake.

I've also noticed my battery life is TERRIBLE. I barely got 2h30m active use on it today. And that's underclocked with governor on conservative and powersave.
[HTC EVO 3D] saboxerman:
I hope I did not contribute to any cause for tension.

Just to be clear for what I do when I flash, this is the process I always follow:

Wipe cache (unless coming from a previous version of the same ROM I'm flashing, I'll attempt a dirty flash)

Wipe Dalvik (again, not unless I'm attempting the dirty flash for the reason stated)

Factory reset

Wipe system (only if I think it may cause an issue, e.g. going from a Sense ROM to this one. Could this have cause my issue with video playback?)

I only got the video playback to work after downgrading to the ENG HBOOT. Please know I'm not disputing anything reported about the function of HBOOT and what it does and how it works. I can only report what I did. My only thought, or question I think would be more appropriate, is can the HBOOT have an affect on how a ROM is flashed?

All information previously given, especially the post just recently by Ramjet was very educational and a good read.
[HTC EVO 3D] davidmargolin:
hey lens... one of the users at android forums said this at my repost of this rom... i dont agree with all of it but thought you may want some input...
[HTC EVO 3D] saboxerman:
Yes, I had a random reboot last night. It was on the charger about 10 minutes and then just started doing it. I restored a very old Gingerbread back up just to get it to start up because a fresh flash wasn't rebooting. Got to work, reflashed everything and have been fine so far.
[HTC EVO 3D] NineInchNails:
Wasn't me :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] Jsparta26:
Sounds like somebody is a tattletale.
[HTC EVO 3D] davidmargolin:
nah... someone posted it and i thought it would be usefull so i passed it on to lens...
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
No....i believe rd status is a joke....no offence....

I was most likely wrong about a simple statement....however i doubt that makes me a dumbass...,..

Anyway....id like to end the dicussion of this back on topic please ....no more comments
[HTC EVO 3D] Jsparta26:
My mistake. I withdraw my comment. Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] ashton4life:
Just thought I would say that all you guys are freaken awsome!! Some really smart people in here! Wish I could do half of what most of you guys can! Keep up the great work everyone! Sorry I mean Lens_flare....since he's the OP. :laugh: :victory: :victory::highfive:
[HTC EVO 3D] kMogs17:
I hate to go back to this post after lens said not to but i have a completely separate issue that might have to do with something said here. You claim that hboot could affect ADB correct? for some reason I cannot get adb to work over usb but i can get it to work over the network. I have never had this issue until recently and for the life of me i cannot figure out what the issue is. It doesnt seem to be rom specific either, though i havent tried a sense rom. Its really bothering me. And as a side note i just tried it with my transformer prime and adb over usb wouldnt work there either. does anyone have insight on this?? i am on a mac if it makes a difference with hboot 1.4 from revolutionary
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Actually, what I meant by that was that certain ADB commands like "backup" might use the bootloader functions to read partitions, but I'm not even sure about that. It's more likely that the files are read through Android services instead.

I don't think the bootloader version would be likely to keep ADB from running at all. The things that usually do that are drivers, USB cable, and computer (such as Windows 8) issues, or not having the phone booted into Android with debug on.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] DJB628:
When you say it was posted over at AF, in which section ?? I am the only one that has it posted in the 3D section, unless you are talking about the EVO V 4G section I assume ??
[HTC EVO 3D] davidmargolin:
you are correct... im taking care of the evo v section...
[HTC EVO 3D] kMogs17:
Ok well thats good to know. I have now tried multiple usb cables usb mass storage works on all but not adb, and i dont believe specific drivers are necessary when it comes to mac and linux, havent tried it yet on linux or windows but i will try both soon, and debugging is definitely on so i just cant figure out why it can detect it over wifi but not over usb. thanks for the info though
[HTC EVO 3D] Joshdaboss1994:
I managed to get my random reboots to stop, went into kernel tuner and turned vsync off, then changed both CPU governors to smartassv2, then went into voltage and bumped them all up by +12.5
[HTC EVO 3D] DJB628:
Got it :good:
[HTC EVO 3D] SBERG117:
Is there a issue with the download link?...I click it and get a "OOOPPSS" page...Thnx..
[HTC EVO 3D] davidmargolin:
yeah... heres the link... http://d-h.st/d3x
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
It's the new CM apps and adb configuration for su. If you want it to work without having to configure anything add:

persist.service.adb.enable=1

(make sure adb is always running)

persist.sys.root_access=3

(set the default to apps and adb approved)

to the build.prop

quick explanation of the hboot issues - it is what they lock down that is causing issues. If you get boot loops and stuff with a certain hboot, even if you are s-off, just extract the boot.img and after you install the rom, do fastboot boot location/of/boot.img and it should get you going again just fine. Other than partition management, though, it doesn't interact with the runtime system.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
So when you say partition management, does that include flashing the recovery or boot partitions from apps like Flash Image GUI and 4EXT Recovery Control? It makes sense to me that Android might use the functions that are already there in the hboot, but I can't seem to find any documentation to confirm that is the case.

Also, if custom recoveries use the partition management functions in the hboot, it seems possible that there could be slight differences in how partitions are flashed from recovery with different hboots. Maybe madmaxx82 or agrabren could explain some of this stuff since they are both developers of custom recoveries.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] danaff37:
I do know from messing around with dreams and magics back in the day that changing the boot loader could change the partition sizes
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
STATUS:

PA UPLOADING

BUGS:

3D

Video playback works 100% all hboots

Except the usual
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
It's a beautiful thing..... it all works.
[HTC EVO 3D] GIGZ1971:
Cant not install

Hello I'm not new to flashing but I can not install this ROM on my phone.

I'm using:

EXT v1.0.0.5 RC5 and I wiped more than once.

FIRMWARE: 2.89.651.2

HBOOT: 1.58.5858-JUOPUNUTBEAR

RADIO: 1.09.00.0706

S-OFF

When it boots it comes to the eyes then goes into a boot loop.

Any help would be appreciated
[HTC EVO 3D] SilverSuperman:
Im having trouble with my music to play thru my headphones when its plugged in, it seems its only with this ROM? instead it comes from the speaker! Can someone tell me how i could fix it? I would greatly be grateful!:cyclops:
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
It depends honestly. fastboot can flash even an hboot at times when dd if of will fail. It all depends on the specific method the tool uses. I have seen flash_image work occasionally, but it's unreliable. It's really trial and error as long as you have a way to recover.
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
This has been answered multiple times....all it takes is a search....

Flash to 1.50 or lower hboot
[HTC EVO 3D] GIGZ1971:
Your right and I apologize I figured it out right after I posted..Thanks for the reply thou:)
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
Changelog:

-20/11/12

-Official Build

-CM UPSTREAM

-Switched Back to agrabrens kernel and device tree

-Video Playback And Wimax 100% Working

-Linaro Toolchain

Download

•RECOVERY: Install Rom: http://d-h.st/WCD

Mirror: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3qj17bgj9y0lyx/pa_shooter-2.55-19NOV2012-031705-2.zip

•RECOVERY: Install Gapps: http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip
[HTC EVO 3D] hondoslack:
I haven't tried yet, but I wonder if this spam in my logcat, which starts here, has anything to do with it:

V/WiredAccessoryObserver( 354): init()

This is then spammed throughout the logcat:

W/WVMExtractor( 143): Failed to open libwvm.so
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Headphones work on update, I'm using them now.
[HTC EVO 3D] DJB628:
The Mirrored DB file is a different file and date ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] Brian706:
Damn. The elitism here is too much sometimes. I couldn't even read all the new posts. Yes, there are a lot of smart people here who know a lot, but do you really have to rub it in people's faces and talk down to people just because you know something? We're all here to learn and the majority of people are learning something new every day. Why not happily pass along knowledge? This is a forum. A place to share knowledge with others. If you don't enjoy helping others, then why are you here? If you need a forum to gloat and prove to yourself how superior you are, then you obviously have issues. Sorry to rant and I'll probably take a huge flaming for this, but please guys, let's keep it civil, friendly and helpful!
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
The dropbox link is the one I am running. I tested video, Wimax, headphones, wifi, all working.
[HTC EVO 3D] DJB628:
Amen !! :good:

---------- Post added at 12:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:46 AM ----------

K, not saying it is bad, simply making an observation that it has a different date. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Also, mms is good, even with wifi on.

Great job, lens.
[HTC EVO 3D] FatalIll:
I'm a virgin mobile user, I just came from MobsterROM v3.

I'm on hboot 1.04 using 4EXT Recovery. I wiped EVERYTHING and formatted all partitions, even SDcard. I flashed 2.55-2 and gapps. Snapped right on.

Only problem I am facing is pressing the camera button or going into the camera app "Unfortunately, Gallery has stopped working." Why?
[HTC EVO 3D] icon69:
If you could provide a log cat of what your experiencing I'm 100% sure it would be a lot more helpful and more likely to help solve the issue.
[HTC EVO 3D] Fam Money:
Confirmed video is now working for me using the YouTube app! I upgraded from yesterday's 2.55 and just wiped cache and dalvik.

I'm on 1.4 Revo and S-Off.
[HTC EVO 3D] FatalIll:
I don't know how to logcat, lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Mazda:
Check the second post of my AOKP JB thread........if not, use google :)

I think this is answered at least 5-6 times a day....is really not that hard! HAHAHHA
[HTC EVO 3D] Sinistertensai:
Elitism no filling someone in yes. My post was helpfull in the sense that I corrected the op if you see it as elitism that's your take I just call it logic.
[HTC EVO 3D] FatalIll:
I opened Terminal Emulator, logcat > /sdcard/log.txt, opened Gallery and Camera and dumped it to pastebin.

Hopefully someone can interpret it. I can't lol

http://pastebin.com/43j2fwqy
[HTC EVO 3D] trev23sks:
Video

Video Playback works except camera !
[HTC EVO 3D] Fam Money:
I'm having the same issue as FatalIll with the camera crashing. Here's the logcat......

@FatalIll - Here is the thread Mazda was talking about.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1726238
[HTC EVO 3D] dfeldt91:
Does the new version at least take a successful video regardless of being able to be played via the phone?

Would a user be able to shoot some video and upload it to a computer to view?

I'm downloading at throttled speeds and its gonna be a few hours before its complete so I'm just wondering...
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedumbrella:
I'm confused. Partially by the guy acting superior calling others elitists, but more important by what exactly the whole thing is talking about :confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] ZWYATT:
Camera will work if you install cg 3.6.4 and choose agrebrens camera driver.

Agrebren deserves all the credit for this.

He had video working a couple days ago in his DT.
[HTC EVO 3D] FatalIll:
Would also like to add, turning bluetooth on forces the phone to reboot. ugh.

Link?
[HTC EVO 3D] Fam Money:
F**k....does the same for me too!
[HTC EVO 3D] Brian706:
Mmmmkay. If asking people to be civil is acting superior then I apologize for making anyone feel that way. Wasn't my intention. I come here to learn. I don't know more than anyone else. I just don't like seeing people condemn others for asking questions. That's how we learn.

---------- Post added at 11:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:04 PM ----------

You must feel at least a little guilty if you think I was talking about you :p

Honestly I'm new here, I don't want to offend anyone or ruffle any feathers. Some of the posts just seem really snarky and unnecessary. Seeing the way some people get treated for asking questions or not knowing something discourages me from asking questions. A forum is a place for discussion, and i like to ask questions. I don't like feeling like I'm unwelcome or like I will get flamed for trying to learn something. If you know more than me, share the wealth! :)
[HTC EVO 3D] JustinOkay:
Hows mms workin out for ya? I know you can recieve with the moddified mms.apk but can you send as well?
[HTC EVO 3D] Kahroo:
YES YouTube works! Does TV Out work in this ROM?

Sent from my Paranoid Android
[HTC EVO 3D] mahalocat:
Very excited
[HTC EVO 3D] JustinOkay:
I can speak for most Virgin Mobile users when I ask this but will mms on VM ever be fully functional?
[HTC EVO 3D] Tierez:
On the last three PA builds my MMS started off fine and seems to break after a reboot. I can recieve but not send. Sending works until reboot no idea whats happening. I'm also on Sprint, after the first time this happened I tried what people recommended, flashing back to Sense, updating profile and PRL, then a new clean install of PA. MMS still breaks each time. This last time I tried not restoring any text related stuff from titanium, used only the stock messenger, but it still broke after a reboot.
[HTC EVO 3D] mahalocat:
Damn çamera
[HTC EVO 3D] TheLeapist:
Does 2.55-2 require a full wipe to update to or can I just flash it over 2.55?

Thanks for all your hard work OP!
[HTC EVO 3D] JustinOkay:
I'm thinking about flashing this. Before I do mind telling me whats up with the camera?
[HTC EVO 3D] Lens_flare:
nooooo