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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Madscud:
I have an Xperia Active (ST17i), it came with GB and a friend of mine helped me unlock the bootloader to install an ICS version.

A month or so ago, the 4.1.B.0.587 update became available through the official update server. My phone detects it and wants to upgrade, but since it detects "modified software", it does not complete the update successfully.

I am not rooted.

There have been a lot of bug reports about that version and I don't even care about upgrading it anymore. But is there any way to remove that "Could not install" notification that's stuck there? It just annoys the hell out of me.
[Xoom General] rubber guard:
Anyone believe we get this? any talk anywhere of what this might beam for legacy (GED/Nexus) devices? Im pretty sure it was in some server logs.

I would assume it would be late Nov/possibly not even till January for that to happen.
[Xoom General] Cubanluke88:
Considering its an incremental update, we're only just approaching 2 years of age and I doubt there will be any major changes that would preclude the Xoom from handling it, yeah I think we'll get an official update.

I'm excited to see this Nexus 10 though. It will be the proper successor to the Xoom; the successor we deserve.
[Xoom General] Winesnob:
More than likely will receive, though as noticed in JB and even some parts of ICS, we didn't get all of the features bestowed upon the products bearing the Nexus name. There is ( in my opinion) a defining line between "Nexus" and "Google Experience Device".

Xoom will likely handle all 4.x iterations of Android, but would not expect to reach 5. All depends on hardware requirements and coding to accommodate older and newer.
[Xoom General] Cubanluke88:
Like what?
[Xoom General] Winesnob:
Face unlock

JB stock wallpapers

New X (Nexus) boot animation

Sound Search widget (Google ears)

Single finger expandable notifications with 4.1.2

These are the top omissions that come to mind on the Xoom, there may be others.
[Xoom General] rubber guard:
didn't we get sound search widget? was it removed in 4.1.1? I thought I had it at one point (maybe I sideloaded, IDK)

also didn't realize we missed so many features (not gonna include wallpapers/screen boot though)

forgive my lack of knowledge, but do we need an updated kernel for these updates?
[Xoom General] swimdude1120:
The Jellybean wallpapers change with the dpi. At its stock you get the old ics wallpapers, but if you change it to say the dpi to that of the nexus 7, you then have access to the new wallpapers.
[Xoom General] Cubanluke88:
None of those things were removed/omitted because the Xoom can't handle it though. I think some were just overlooked and some are just not practical (face unlock - we used to have it and it was stupid on a 10" device).

I have sound search widget on my Xoom (albeit not stock - is this not included in stock?). JB wallpapers and boot animation, well those are easily added and the Nexus animation was probably not added because the Xoom is not a Nexus by name. The only one that is significant (i.e. not easily added by the user) is the single finger expandable notifications and I would definitely like to see that but oh well.
[Xoom General] roadratx:
I needs me some Project Butter on my 4G Xoom
[Xoom General] oldblue910:
Google had submitted the JRO03H 4.1.1 ROM to Verizon for testing (it was leaked here back in early August), but now that 4.1.2 has come out, I'm sure Verizon is testing that ROM now. On Motorola's official update page, it lists the VZW Xoom as getting Jelly Bean Q4 of this year, so it should be any time now...unless they're just going to wait for 4.2, then submit THAT for testing and have it be our official JB update...which means longer waiting. Ugh.

Owning a Verizon Xoom and Galaxy Nexus is very frustrating from an update standpoint. Updates direct from Google, but only after Verizon tests the ROMs and approves it for rollout. If only Verizon's network wasn't so goddamn awesome and the LTE so freakin' fast.
[Xoom General] roadratx:
Awesome reliability, but my Nexus switches back and forth between 3G and LTE so often, its not worth keeping the LTE on. As soon as I get two LTE bars, it tries to switch to 3G. Freaking stupid Nexus radios
[Xoom General] oldblue910:
Yeah, even on Nexus devices, the radio firmware is the one thing that the OEM still handles. Samsung has had one hell of a time trying to get those Galaxy Nexus radios working right. :(
[Xoom General] Winesnob:
I've never seen face unlock on the Xoom. Was this in Honeycomb? When I got my Xoom earlier this year I let it update successively to 4.0.4, and never saw face unlock. Why was it stupid on a 10 inch device - it still does its function, correct?
[Xoom General] oldblue910:
No, no stock ROM for the Xoom has ever had face unlock. Some of the custom ROM developers included it and it works OK, but definitely not as good as it does on the Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 7.
[Xoom General] Cubanluke88:
Ah thats correct, face unlock never came to stock. As someone else said, custom roms had it but it was removed. I remember using it on my Xoom and it just wasn't practical with a 10" device.
[Xoom General] TheStickMan:
How come 4.2 will still be JB? 4.0 Was ICS, 4.1 was JB ..
[Xoom General] oldblue910:
It has happened before. 2.0 and 2.1 were both Eclair.
[Xoom General] Cubanluke88:
Personally, I'd prefer it if they saved name changes for X changes where version is X.Y.Z
[Xoom General] Neurotica:
The rate at which Android evolves, this would be a perfect way to move forward and create less Confusion.

Sent from my phone
[Xoom General] seajamiet:
We can as xoom owners look at ourselves and think yeah they will give us 4.2 but I think the xooms death for updates is looming. The nexus.10 is rumored and.that will almost certainly.replace the xoom if real for updates and as a product. We have had ics and jb now and if you look at other devices we have got our fair share of updates. I dont think.we will get 4.2 officially.
[Xoom General] tumpy:
I think we will see 4.2 on our xoom, Motorola will have to make another tablet better than the xoom first, The xoom is still the best tablet moto has made todate, The next tablet moto make now google has full control will be the tablet to beat and it will come with 5.0, Like xoom moto first tablet with 3.0 so will 5.0 a moto first...
[Xoom General] oldblue910:
Considering that it looks like they removed the Honeycomb-style tablet interface from 4.2 in favor of something more consistent with phone and phablet modes, I'm now seriously doubting if the Xoom will get 4.2 or not. Looks like 4.1.2 may have been the last update, especially when you consider that the Nexus 10 will now serve the Xoom's purpose of being the 10" Nexus tablet. This theory also supports the reasoning that Google did such a minimal, lackluster job with the Xoom's Jelly Bean update (using the ICS boot animation, no sound search widget, no single finger notification detail in 4.1.2, no JB wallpapers, etc.) They probably figured that since they were ending support for the Xoom soon (since the N10 was coming), they could safely mail it in with the Xoom update and focus on the new tablet mode that the N10 is sporting.

I'd bet money that 4.1.2 will also be the last update for the Nexus S as well. Purely a guess, but I'd say the only non-current Nexus device that will see 4.2 will be the Galaxy Nexus.
[Xoom General] Winesnob:
I can see both sides of this, keeping in mind that the Xoom was never branded a Nexus device. No factory images maintained on Google's pages, no Google boot logo. I am optimistic that they will will continue to support the Xoom at least until the name Jellybean is retired. It is vanilla Android, but missing the details that Nexus branded devices get to wear. The Nexus S is older than the Xoom and has continued support. I believe Google referenced the Nexus S as the reference device for development in the past several months, which makes me believe they will support it and others as long as the hardware can support the software a good user experience. And I'm not ready to drop the Xoom quite yet, though the N10 is rather enticing.
[Xoom General] Winesnob:
...other thoughts - 4.2 is not earth shattering (at least not from the leaks) like ICS or JB 4.1. I have no doubt it will be smoother and quicker, but it unlocks features for which code already existed in 4.1 but was not active (multi user for example). If Google was undergoing another revolution in Android (like ICS) then I would agree the Xoom was on the chopping block long with the Nexus S. 4.2 is a new opportunity to get more Nexus branded products into the market before holiday shopping begins. You have to admit, "Nexus" sounds a whole lot sexier than "vanilla Android". Google is establishing their brand (finally) and trying to grow the market, not step on loyal Android fans who own hardware that is still relevant.
[Xoom General] oldblue910:
All excellent points. I guess time will tell! :)
[Xoom General] Cubanluke88:
Pretty much this. The xoom hardware is nothing special, coming up on 2 years old, but it still handles the os fine. The Nexus One was only dropped because it's hardware could no longer support official Android. Well get 4.2, based on what the leaks have revealed. Well see about the future. I doubt Google is going to simply drop support in order to push the N10. That's not something Google does.
[Xoom General] ericbergan:
Step on over to the Photon 4G forum - Google killed commited upgrades to just ICS to a platform they own.

eric
[Xoom General] Winesnob:
I thought Motorola killed those. Photon 4G was not an AOSP device.
[Xoom General] oldblue910:
Wrong. Google had nothing to do with the Photon. That's all Motorola.
[Xoom General] Lothaen:
Honeycomb was 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2 if I am not mistaken
[Xoom General] oldblue910:
Correct. Also, 2.0 and 2.1 were both Eclair.
[Xoom General] rubber guard:
well there were server logs that had xoom w/ 4.2 correct?

and I would go on record and say:

nexus 10 is released, then xoom gets 4.2 (its last official update) before the big update to KLP/5.0.

Im basing this of the reports that 4.2 will be incremental rather than a huge jump (like 3.2>4.03 and 4.0.4>4.1.1)

IIRC we started at

3.0

and made stops at

3.1

3.2

4.0.3

4.0.4

4.1.1

4.1.2

missing anything?
[Xoom General] oldblue910:
I haven't heard about anyone seeing server logs with 4.2...any links? I'd love to see it!
[Xoom General] Cubanluke88:
I'd like to point out that no one but maybe Google knows that the next update is officially KLP or 5.0.
[Xoom General] 063_XOBX:
If I had to guess I'd say maybe winter of next year would be 5.0 probably going to be at least one more 4.x update before a major overhaul worthy of a new number branding. Similar to 2.(1,2,3)-4.0.
[Xoom General] rubber guard:
OK, I googled "server logs 4.2 android" and the articles I read didn't contain it. i could have been totally mis-remembering.

I don't claim to know, but was making a prediction. 4.2 will be released into AOSP, Xoom will receive it (after Nexus 10 launches). Save a minor update fix (like 4.0.3>4.0.4 or 4.1.1>4.1.2) I think it will be the last featured update the xoom officially receives. I may venture a guess that the "nexus program" is released at IO 2013 and KLP is released there, but I doubt a new nexus tablet is released. Maybe LTE Nexus w/ 5.0?

I think we agree, but Im going to assume something android related happens at IO 2013 (see above). Renaming/giving a new number is all about branding, hype, and buzz. They can have as much or little in an update as they want.
[Xoom General] rubber guard:
did anyone watch droid life show tonight? I know they talked about legacy devices and 4.2 but I tuned in at the wrong time (i was thinking 9 central)
[Xoom General] Lothaen:
Honeycomb 3.0.1 [HWI69]

Honeycomb 3.1 [HMJ37]

Honeycomb 3.2 [HTJ85B]

Honeycomb 3.2.1 [HTK55D]

Honeycomb 3.2.1 (update) [HTK75D]

IceCreamSandwich 4.0.3 [IML77]

IceCreamSandwich 4.0.4 [IMM76]

JellyBean 4.1.1 [JRO03H]

JellyBean 4.1.2 [JZO54K]

I don't see anything in 4.2 that would suggest it wouldn't make it's way to the Xoom

I would be interested to see what happens in 5.x that could mean that the Xoom's hardware prevents it. It has plenty of internal storage, it's a dual core (I can't see Google pushing everyone to quad cores yet) and it has 1GB RAM (same reason as the CPU).
[Xoom General] rubber guard:
reading this adds some doubt that we receive it. Not sure they want to completely throw our UI out and replace with the phablet one. Would current owners like? not like?

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/10/3...idLife+(droid+life)&utm_content=Google+Reader
[Xoom General] Lothaen:
Stuff already stripped out of Xoom stock updates like face unlock. Can't imagine its that hard to throw it into tablet UI.

Also wasn't the tablet ui available on nexus 7 if you tweaked some DPI or similar?

Maybe same here ...

Still hopeful that Google won't abandon the Xoom just yet...
[Xoom General] Winesnob:
I fail to see how this article reveals anything about the Xoom receiving 4.2. If anything it supports it - the only 10 inch tablet with 4.2 hasn't been touched by the public yet, and when it is it will still be then only one. There is little doubt that Samsung, Asus and others will start working on updates for their large tablets to 4.2 and getting them out over the next several months. It would be in Googarola's best interest to push it to the Xoom so there are 2 representative examples of the new large screen UI on the street for others to follow. I was surprised to see the Xoom at Office Max last week on "clearance" at $445. There is certainly not a fire sale happening with the Xoom tablets, so there is still relevance to the device.

What this article did do was explain very clearly Google's logic behind the UI change. It makes sense, and when I saw the first posted screenshots in another thread, I immediately liked it for all of Google's reasons (though I couldn't explain it in their terms at the time).
[Xoom General] XxLordxX:
I think it will be the last Xoom update. Google normally keeps a 2 year device life span, and this year, our beloved tablet completed 2 y.o. so I think, it'll receive this update and if we have luck, we'll receive the next. Of this one won't be the last, the next is almost sure :p, sorry but it's the truth.

"This Story Ends Where It Began"
[Xoom General] Winesnob:
Our beloved Xoom actually completes 2 years in February 2013. But I agree that this is probably it. Next iteration of Android will likely be a larger jump and either require better hardware or simply exclude the Xoom. Naturally the good folks over at CM and Team EOS will cook up something for us, even though it is technically illegal now to enable root access on a tablet.
[Xoom General] oldblue910:
This might be one of the liveliest discussions ever on the XDA Xoom forums!
[Xoom General] rubber guard:
lets keep it going...

JBQ is sick and I would doubt any AOSP news comes out until the release week of the Nexus 4/10 (which is Tuesday Nov 13)

we'll have to speculate for another 1-4 weeks before anything IMHO.
[Xoom General] krs360:
Really?? That can't be true. How can modifying something you have bought and own be illegal?

I guess this US only?
[Xoom General] jlvlawrence:
I can't decide if I should hold onto my beloved xoom, or sell it while I can still get something out of it. I'm definitely intrigued by the nexus 10. I just wonder if jelly Bean will be the last version of android this device sees. It is starting to show its age a bit, although Team EOS 4.1.2 runs like a boss on mine. I do also like the fact that I have 4g as well. I'd like to see a nexus 10 and xoom size by side to better compare them.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk!
[Xoom General] Winesnob:
Has to do with DRM, and the apparent inability to clearly define a tablet. Search the web a bit - there's a lot posted about the topic.
[Xoom General] krs360:
Yup, definitely seems to be US only. You lot have a really screwed up legal system!
[Xoom General] Winesnob:
It thought that was obvious from the Apple - Samsung trial in San Francisco. Horribly screwed up when a company can patent a pre- existing shape by rounding the corners.
[Xoom General] oldblue910:
I personally think that the whole concept of software patents is stupid. I believe patents have their place for tangible products. The idea behind a patent was to give someone time between prototyping the idea and going to market so that they can do all the necessary R&D that needs to go into it, plus manufacturing, etc.

None of these hurdles exist in software patents. With software, you're doing your R&D while you're coming up with your idea, thus rendering the idea of a patent useless. Just my $0.02.
[Xoom General] thenemis:
4.2 ...

camera taken from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1965895 work on xoom :)

only editor on contrast not work
[Xoom General] krs360:
In a very similar case in a British court, Apple was told to STFU, and make a public apology on their website for bringing it to court!

Trouble is, their apology is very sarcastic indeed, and does not contain the word sorry. They also refer to a load of other cases around they world which are not relevent. I have a feeling that when the judges see that, Apple will be found in contempt of court and be in BIG trouble!

Then I will laugh.
[Xoom General] tumpy:
I am in agreement with you, I also think that with 5.0 will be a first on a nexus from motorola be it tablet or phone...
[Xoom General] matt4321:
I remember with ICS it was released to AOSP the day before the release of the Gnex so I'm hoping we have something similar and we're closer than we think.

This is the first I heard of this, IIRC (I'm probably wrong, please correct me) but didn't the law or something saying it was legal to root devices run out, so it's now neither legal or illegal (no mans land). I swear hearing this somewhere sometime.
[Xoom General] Winesnob:
According to the new law, you can root/jailbreak phones, just not tablets. Doesn't make any sense from a functional perspective, but from a legal perspective no one could agree how to define a tablet.
[Xoom General] matt4321:
Weird. And this is US only right?
[Xoom General] rubber guard:
what did you do exactly? it appears you are rooted?

also, did anyone else take any of the apks from the 4.2 system dump?

I just dl'ed and want to know which ones will work
[Xoom General] thenemis:
i'm on cm10 , so yes i have root access.

i install the 3 libs, the 2 .apk (modded for all device) , set permission and reboot.
[Xoom General] logitechor:
In4.2 there is updated Google Apps. There is a Zip file of 4.2 Gapps around. If rooted flash in recovery. Works great. Clean up the System area by getting rid of some ringtones and videos and the Xoom works great.
[Xoom General] willysp:
Just a friendly clarification - that's incorrect. The purpose of a patent is to protect the intellectual property of an inventor once a product is in the market. i.e. if someone wants to use patented tech, they typically have to pay license fees or royalties to the original inventor. A patent normally lasts 20 years.
[Xoom General] evo481:
maybe smo should make some thread about 4.2 goodies in our Xoom...and how we can upgrade them? i see camera is playing and Gapps but it comes from nexus thread and it feels little awkward! lol

if anyone has done it pls do the thread for the rest here in Xoom sector!
[Xoom General] Asphyx:
Actually a patent is meant to protect a physical way of doing something and a copyright is meant to protect written works.

So what the poster said was essentially true, they are trying to patent the way you move your hands not thier product that is really just a written work that makes that hand movement do something.

The slide to unlock patent is an attempt to patent your hand movement (slide Left to Right) and is not REALLY a product they have created.

The product is nothing more than a program or code and should not be patented merely copyrighted,

If I remember correctly the issue with Facelock on the Xoom was about the piggish memory and storage requirements of the faceprints which is why even the custom Rom devs removed it.

Truth is it was not all that good of a feature to begin with and was easily bypassed.

As for the Wallpapers and Boot anim, are those really features?
[Xoom General] Winesnob:
Not so much features as an AOSP fingerprint to let the Xoom owners know we received the same update as other AOSP devices.
[Xoom General] ericbergan:
A patent can also cover a process, originally thought of for manufacturing or refining proceses. But arguments have been put forward that it includes computing processes and user interface processes. So you get into murky waters where code could be covered by patent, copyright, or trade secret, each with different implications.

eric
[Xoom General] rubber guard:
feeling less confident than a few weeks ago.
[Xoom General] Ghost-of-the-Sun:
"-There is no support for 4.2 on Nexus S and Xoom. Those devices should

continue using 4.1.2."

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA
[Xoom General] romdroid.:
Even if we don't get 4.2 official it will come anyway. There is some awesome developers who will make it work so don't you worry child!!
[Xoom General] rubber guard:
Shakes Fist
[Xoom General] oldblue910:
I am most definitely not shocked by this. That said, we can still expect a 4.1.2/JZO54K update for the VZW Xoom at some point down the line. Overall, the Xoom had a great run and got more updates in its lifetime than most tablets would get in five lifetimes. Owning one was an absolute pleasure. This will go down as one of the legendary Android tablets.
[Xoom General] Cubanluke88:
R.I.P.

Shame really. But I suppose this is a great way to push people to the Nexus 10. It also means they don't need to update the Xooms tablet UI.
[Xoom General] Winesnob:
Sad. But all good things must come to a close. While the N10 is really enticing, I'm hoping the folks over at CyanogenMod pull the 4.2 source into the wingray builds. I'll make the ROM switch and maximize the Xoom until the next major Android release.
[Xoom General] Lothaen:
Same
[Xoom General] krs360:
Shouldn't be too long...

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/13/android-4-2-headed-to-aosp-right-now/
[Xoom General] double1:
Although I believe the xoom will continue to get roms for 4.2 and beyond, the quickest tablet to get the update will be the n10. I like to be on the cutting edge of tech so I prefer to be the first to get an update. So long xoom, it was a good run. First 3.0 tablet, received all the updates before any other tablet except I believe the tf 300 got 4.0 before us, not sure on that one lol. Love my xoom and will be keeping it as a backup tablet, maybe stick it to the fridge or something. Cheers.
[Xoom General] logitechor:
The Xoom still rocks. Sorry Google dropped it. I was able to flash in recovery 4.2 apps including photosphere. The hardware on the Xoom seems capable of running 4.2. Seems a shame to stop the upgrades for a minor upgrade and not a version release. Oh well.