yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC One X] PAGOT:
Guys and all who are saying its their business to share and not share. Personal ROM etc.

One thing is. If they put out their ROM they shared it already. So its out there.

There is no halfway like lets kill just half of the pig. Sorry for an bad example, but lets stop to argue about personal and its up to them.

They loose the virtual right "up to them" the moment they put it out for download if they wanna stay true to this community.

I hope I was clear enough :)
[HTC One X] uqadwe:
I am only curious what will happen if that person won't be sharing anymore. Will that be a good thing for XDA?

And again, i do remember that someone else did something similar some time ago, it was on the Sensation section.
[HTC One X] PAGOT:
He will loose "fame" , "thanks" . "money" like that's ever gonna happen :)

If he can't share the right way, the community won't be at loss here.

So yes, to answer your question, its good thing to XDA.
[HTC One X] uqadwe:
No, it will be a good think for you maybe. Your opinion doesn't necesserly reflect the community perception.

Again and again, we are still refering to only one person, when in fact these is not the first user with this problem.

I see your avoiding to talk about that.
[HTC One X] PAGOT:
uqadwe,

please stop talking OT. I do not know who you are talking about. I do not use Custom Roms only CM as my only Custom Rom. So that is strange to me. I have no idea about your quarrels. And I said this happens through devices, roms, etc.

I do not know who the only person is. Nor I need to know. Please stop talking or pinpointing this to someone, no one reacts on it nor will someone.

Also if you know what the community is about and was in it a bit longer you would also understand the perception better.
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
Yep it would be a good thing, xda can live without people like that.

To tweak a rom or create an app those leaks are not necessary.
[HTC One X] matt95:
i completely agree, nothing to say or add...this is the real reality
[HTC One X] atrako1973:
Nothing good comes out of this thread ,it should be closed
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
There should be a dedicated sticky thread for people to post thier opinions and/or rants re these issues, also (slightly ot) there should also be a Jellybean *****ing thread set up for all the cat fighters in that thread, will save the mods a load of hassle keeping the JB thread clean! Its been like a warzone in there and the ota discussion thread! sick of it!!!! (rant over)
[HTC One X] diegosps:
This thread remember me in some way the PS3 scene, where some developers goes crazy when someone leaks his work, that was in first place Sony's work and only possible because of the shared work from other developers.

Anyway, I do agree with OP.
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
@Exocetdj,

I understand your sick of it, same counts for me but sometimes it's good to discuss general subjects like this.

People can keep quiet forever while others continue with the same attitude forever.
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
Good point man, general discussion is good and having a healthy debate is good, just said I was sick of the ***** fest in the jb thread. Maybe they should have a dedicated anything goes thread for the one x forum, would save the mods a bit of hassle (or maybe not lol) :) just seen too many flame wars recently and I know that isn't healthy for what this forum mostly is used for , helping out fellow Ord sufferers, having a laugh and learning more about the best operating system out on a mobile. :)
[HTC One X] D.O.C:
XDA-Developers is about development.

Rules are already laid down to protect the integrity of our forums, with the sole objective so that development persist, no matter of individual or collective choices.

If a user decides to share a RUU, fine, if not, fine again, and here is the reason why: fortunately development does not depend on RUUs, it depends on sources, and, obviously, developers to work with them. Sources are out there published under a licence that allows anyone to modify them and contribute to them in order to achieve a better product, reason why kernel sources have to be posted everytime you decide to share your custom kernel. Android is open source, reason why xda has boosted over the last few years.

HTC ROMs are not intended to be developed over them (ask their lawyers, heck, ask developers around what they find easier, to compile and modify android sources, or stock firmwares).

Now, development does not depend upon sharing. Sure, sharing is a great thing, it speeds up development and makes it greater, but, it does not depend on it. That is why sharing in our forums is a private choice.

XDA delopers started with a group of individuals that wanted to "tweak and modify" their stock roms (some developers I can see around here, and I am glad they are still around). It was a time of sharing and development, and there werent as many "issues" with this kind of environment back then. We all miss those times, but it is time we let go, we gotta move on and adapt to our current circumstances and stop trying to go backwards .....in short, develop a new mentality towards how we accept and deal with our current users. Afterall, we are in a development forum right?

RUUs are propietary to HTC, if they get "leaked" into our forums, well, thanks to the leaker, but under no cirmcunstance XDA will allow anyone to be "forced" to do something that they cannot/want to do. Not to HTC or any user for that matter. We do not ask anyone to share anything. If a user decides to share, we all win, if he doesnt decide to share, well, that is his choice, but we (by we I reffer to us as a community) do not depend upon anyone to continue what this forum is about, which is and will always be, development.

Hope the above does not cause any confusion that we (or I) support nonsharing but on the contrary, sharing stuff makes development greater and more fun, but we do know that development does not depend on it :)

Have fun!, but please try to stay within our forum rules, since the nature of this subject I can foresee someone getting angry XD
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
And there you go problem solved :) thanks!
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
That's the most important thing indeed, human aspects and enthusiasm are second and is understandable in such a huge community.

Thanks for the explanation.
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
And there you go problem solved :) thanks! I was introduced to xda by a mate who taught me the basics about android, before that I thought rooting was something u did with a woman and flashing, well that could have got u in trouble ha ha! But thanks to this brilliant community I have learned a lot in the year I have been on here, met some bloody sound people and have also given half my immediate family and a few friend's phones a new lease of life with the knowledge I have gained. Hopefully will learn more and my bottom line is, I'm glad I discovered xda! Many thanks to anyone who puts thier work out there, and if anyone has work they want to keep private, fair play! Xda till I die lol:D ps, iPhone's still Suck he he!
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
That's the most important thing indeed, human aspects and enthusiasm are second and is understandable in such a huge community.

Thanks for the explanation.

I will keep it in mind.
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
Awesome Way of thingsif u ask me, my old HTC desire certainly thought so lol! That's when my obsessive Rom flashing disorder started, iv had my problems with it, sometimes spent hour upon hour on my phone tinkering away, poor girlfriend didn't get any attention for along time sometimes, but I'm better now (or am I lol) the relentless approach to development has sucked me in and made me a real good hobby thanks guys :) got a baby on the way but I know Il still have time for xda he he ;)
[HTC One X] mwilky:
But surely if they have the ruu and release something based from it, they are in no means protecting anything as they are releasing the files from the ruu into the open for other users to flash in the form of their rom? Fair enough if they say they they have a certain ruu but they can't share it, if they don't go and make a rom based off it, nothing is shared/leaked whatever you want to call it, but in reality, if they release something based off the ruu, they have already "leaked" too much, so surely they can't "get into any more trouble" if they release the ruu.

In the end all it is is a cleaner a base to work on rather than basing it on another devs rom.

I may be wrong, I don't want to start an argument with any one it's just my view on things, people are giving there opinions so I thought I'd give mine
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
No argument from me mate, this has been a good discussion as laurentius pointed out, can see when a clean rRom.zip may be better for working from than a custom base as the cooker can apply thier own fresh knowledge to that also, just nice to see such a wide range of opinions on the table rather than 'orrible flame wars.
[HTC One X] D.O.C:
Agreed 100%. But everyones opinion is important, and everyone is entitled to have a choice, and not for anyone to force it upon them.

To share or not to share.....it comes down at individual choices, not to be forced :).

Maybe they fail to see the big picture?, or maybe they have private reasons. I guess we should ask them, either way, will always be a user choice. :)
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
He he stealthy mods as always, moved to the old general forum :D thought it was a glitch in the matrix (soz for ot but having a laugh is also very important!)
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
Thanks mate, that's exactly the point. :)
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
One more thing....

I understand xda's point of view to protect this community but to my opinion they should care about the

human aspects as well.

Now it's like one individual is telling this community his rules which is causing a lot of frustration.

That's wrong and discourage people to share there work.

Someone mentioned it earlier in this thread, we can live without the leaked ruu's.

Actualy the moderator mentioned that as well.

All we need is a healty community.

Isn't there a way to stop these people telling us what to do?
[HTC One X] bippo:
thread moeved

For witch reason???? because here are no answers jet (really answers) the thread moved to Q&A and disappeared somewhere last pages I guess!:confused:
[HTC One X] Goku80:
Down to choice at the end of the day.

Sent from my ICJ powered by the greatness called NCX power.
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
With all respect I think the moderator moved the thread to temper the heat a little I ques.

I love to see this thread back to it's original location as well.

So if the moderators don't mind hereby a request?
[HTC One X] D.O.C:
Because it doesnt fit into a htc one x general nor development. The issue you are trying to get answers for non device specific. Since we all know you are (and the rest here) using htc one x, it got moved to the Q&A in the htc one x forum...so you get an answer.

Please do not try to start a nonsense issue about it. The discussion is healthy until now and it shall remain that way. If we start discussing nonsense, the thread will deviate from its purpose leaving all without an answer.

And again, you were answered already in regards of why xda will not force anyone to share anything. If you are looking for a specific answer from a specific developer, I would sugggest for you to send him/her a pm with your inquiry.
[HTC One X] Clark Joseph Kent:
No more requesting/discussions on/to movement of this thread, Thank You
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
Cool we moved again with the thread to HTC One X questions and answers, thanks mods! :D

As someone explained to me today the leakers are taking 'VERY HIGH RISKS' :p so we should embrace them with a warm heart. :o

We should respect them encourage them, kiss them etc... because they keep a community like this running.

They deserve all the respect sharing these HTC sources with us and you should listen to them if they have certain policies, even if these policies are holding back your development.

They are leakers and probably can't cook so give them the benefit of a few days holding the source behind so they have time to process your tweaks/apss into there published rom.

If they are finished with it and give you green light you can publish too. ;)

Let them use your tweaks, even if you found something very cool what could benefit us all, those people deserve all credits.

I know you created it but at the end you are dependent to such a great people who are taking such a high risk. :o
[HTC One X] bippo:
Very high risks

I personally think by "SHARING" with other developers the RISK will decrease, and the community will have much more advantages as from private SHARE.

I also maybe wrong but I can't help I don't like the NON FAIR dispute between Developers about KANG:(
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
It's not strange that you are getting not much replies in this thread.

Gross of the people who are visiting XDA are looking for a tweak, application or rom.

They are not as geeky as developers and chefs and therefore people think this thread is not interesting or important

as it doesn't live between them. More important is they fix there own bootloop or wifi issue.

I would love to see some chef opinions (and not only of topic requests to close this thread) but that doesn't happen as well I ques as they are dependent to these latest sources.

It looks like it's true that whole this community is depended to that one leaker and he's telling you what to do.

I think you're right if the source is spread wider it's harder to find the leaker and the community will have much more advantages

indeed as more devs/chefs are having the change to look into the ruu finding solutions for bugs and tweaking it for performance.
[HTC One X] Freddy1X:
At the end of the day, the spotlights shined on one man,

Some of the crowd throwing cheers, some of them boo with tears,

He said I don't need a** kissers, I don't need back-stabbers,

Because all he care was the donate button, so do him a favour, just buy him the beers..:silly::eek::confused:
[HTC One X] bippo:
favour

Nice story.....with no story....who cares..... nobody......show must go on!:p
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
Yeah that's why we can continue forever but nobody will change it as it happens behind the scenes.

This thread doesn't make friends, my ques is 'it's wiser to keep your mouth shut as the faster you will be

a friend with the leaker'. I never been like that and I never will be, even if the whole world goes against me.

And yes I agree as well that the leaker is very smart and benefits from the approvals the people give them.
[HTC One X] bippo:
I stop asking!

Sense of Nonsense I stop with asking...Is nobody there to do something about!:eek:
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
Hi mate, cheer up, at least we know now how it works.

Me on the other hand I'm happy I could express my taughts about it. :p

I did my best to support you, a pitty you are giving up.
[HTC One X] bippo:
no pitty and no war

I came up for SHARE community, but 2 people is too less for make the change. Then, when this would be solved, from "the dark side of the moon" will come another kind Private XDA kitchen. :eek:

And here (XDA) are amazing developers (also nice people in meantime) going the right way.;):o
[Motorola Atrix 2] shardul.phatak:
please forgive if this has been posted before

guys if you find any app which improves battery life please post it here

like i use

1) Fast Reboot PRO :- it reinitializes every app & clears memory (we can set period as per custom requirement)

2) Advance Task Manager PRO :- it kills unncessary apps repeatedly & we can set period of killing
[Motorola Atrix 2] Pilgrimtozion:
Beware of task killers - they don't actually save battery because the apps they kill are typically not using any significant amount of battery power to begin with. You'll only end up draining your battery.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pcmaczone:
I rooted my Galaxy S3 the other day with the intention of installing one of the JB rom's out there. I thought as my S3 was not locked that the official JB update would be a little way off yet. Yesterday I find the official JB being pushed to my phone. It went through the update process and then said it could not update because my phone had been modified. I checked the rom version and it is now 4.1.1 so it seems to have actually updated everything apart from the interface which is still ICS.

Is there a way to get around this? If I do a factory reset will that wipe the root? Or can I do something to hide the root from the update?

All advice much appreciated.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 123shree:
Well if its 4.1.1 then its jelly bean. The touchwiz interface for ICS and JB are the same...
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaidev.s:
for removing root , you have to flash stock Rom via Odin. then do a factory reset.:thumbup:

Sent from my GT-I9300 with a BIG :)

PLEASE HIT "THANKS" IF I HELPED U
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pcmaczone:
Thanks for that. didn't realise the interfaces were the same. Was expecting a bit of a facelift but then I guess it's what's under the hood that counts.

It did say it couldn't update the software because the phone was modified so I am wondering what, if anything I am missing.

One thing I did notice pretty much straight away was the battery seems to be running down quicker. Could be my imagination of course but I will test it over the next few days to be certain.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hans Kruger:
flash any stock Rom and change csc
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mooseboy85:
Can anyone help me please cant update to 4.1.1 jellybean offical. because phone is modified on 4.0.4 ics how can i restore my phone / unroot
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] art_arev:
Rooting will not stop you from updating OTA through KIES. It wont update through direct OTA.

Update via Kies or download the DLJ4 and flash with odin.You will have the same result

Cheers
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eeamshh:
flash any stock Rom using odin
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] art_arev:
You are asking for help in another tread about the same issue....and here you are advising somebody else...
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mooseboy85:
What is ota? Samsung kies see my phone as modified so it wont update. Cheers
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
OTA is over the air update found on your phone settings about software update .

Problems try the manual .

jje
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mooseboy85:
Its says no update available need help. Just a beginer.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mooseboy85:
Please could u tell me how to rest counter flash because it keeps going back to 1. And back to modified?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
It means their is no update yet for YOUR phone .

Why not join XDA and flash a stock JB rom .

Please could u tell me how to rest counter flash because it keeps going back to 1. And back to modified?

Run TRIANGLE AWAY .

flash stock/original rom and factory reset /

jje
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mooseboy85:
I did update once to jelly bean but when it finished said updates unaviliable to modified phone. So i resotored back to 4.0.4. Now it wont update. Not sure wat firmware to download to reflash i never backed my original. Tried using triangle away but it keeps going back to 1. phone status modified iwant a rooted jellybean
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mooseboy85:
Please could u help me i want to unroot my phone but dont know wat stock firmware to download to reflash with odin i never backed my original up.im on 4.0.4 xxblfb but my baseband is different. Cheers

---------- Post added at 06:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:32 PM ----------

Sorry to bother u again but wat stock rom do i reflash the phone with im using 4.0.4 xxblfb but my base band is different. + cant rest counter flash it keeps going back to1. cheers
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spez0r:
Hello there,

I've got an OEM N90 II. Tried to flash it with the tools from the manufacturer, but the tablet restartet while flashing.

Now it only boots into recovery.But I can connect to it with ADB.

What I did so far:

I've managed it to extract and mount the system.img from the ROM and ADB PUSH the system onto the device.

Now I've got ADB Shell access.

After that I've tried to flash_image the kernel and system, But when I try this, the shell doesn't respond and apparently nothing gets flashed. :(

I've also tried to flash kernel and system with DD. It said that it copied xxx bytes, but after a restart nothing changed. :eek:

Would be nice if someone could help me. :good:
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Princelierocks:
Hi,

I just installed Jelly bean latest kernel with its latest Rom Beta 2. After a while I wanted to change to latest nAn kernel and install a new rom that supports nAn kernel, when i tried to flash this kernel I was just getting a white led on my phone not even able to go in Xrecovery. When i installed the jelly bean kernel everything is normal again. I also saw the uninstall procedures to flash stock kernel which i did the result i got is, Iam just stuck at the sony boot logo no reactions further. Please someone help me to uninstall a kernel and go back to stock kernel with rom installed so that i can change my kernel again. Also let me know if my boot-loader will be relocked. Looking forward for your precious help.. :(
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dagger:
visit this link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10879507#post10879507

Ask further if you have problems...
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ElmirBuljubasic:
Do this! Wipe data, system, cache. Install gb rom. Turn off and flash the kernel u want. Now govin cwm snd wipe data & system again.. Now u can boot ;)
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stamatis:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1836074

Read ;)
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Princelierocks:
Thanks a lot.. worked for me

Hi, This solution worked for me. thanks a lot for the link..
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Princelierocks:
Thank you.. solution was awesome
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] chaoscreater:
Hi guys, I've just recently purchased a U8800 (NOT pro, just the normal one).

I did some research already and the more I read, the more confused I am. It seems that many roms, especially the MIUI ones all have similar problems related to performance, wifi issues etc.

And speaking of MIUI roms, I'm not sure which one is the better one (in terms of speed and stability). Here're the ones I'm referring to:

[ROM] MIUI V4 based Elite ROM SX - (Stable) - 2012-07-14

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1562661

[ROM][MIUI-V4][2.8.3][3.0.8]CrazyMiui|08/05|{SMOOTH,FAST AND STABLE}

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1690156

MIUI PORTUGAL V4 - 2.9.29.1 (Base GenoKolar)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1928336&highlight=miui

It seems that some of them are based on GenoKolar's MIUI rom, and that some are based on other people's roms.

The same applies to other non-MIUI roms, such as this one:

[ROM] Elora 1.10.13 - 2012-10-13

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1798031

which is a hybrid of DZO's Alora rom and some extra added stuff from other roms.

Anyway, I'm really confused by which one to try. I don't want to risk bricking my device or going through the trouble of testing each one and experiencing the problems or bugs, and then try the next one and so on. I was wondering if someone could kindly provide some suggestions as to which rom is the most stable and is decent in terms of speed/performance.

Also, by stable I mean that it has the least bugs OR that it has the minimum amount of critical bugs that could affect the phone's daily use.

Thanks in advance.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] n0_xQuZe:
Personally i think that for daily use ezet's CyanogenMod 7.2 with .32 kernel is the best considering performance,battery etc. but it is kind of outdated since dzo has made a pretty stable ICS rom(Aurora) which is a lot newer and smoother but with a few bugs remaining. Not to mention that dzo is from the same city as you haha!