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[Asus Transformer TF700] tomcat420m:
Of course you're going to experience a lag, lil or otherwise. The more apps open the more limited resources you're using. All depends on multiple variables. Tablet or a PC. Limited resources, the more you run eats from that, the slower it's going to go.

From my 3VO running bad ass Elegencia v3 ROM using XParent Blue Tapatalk
[Asus Transformer TF700] Malkaridae:
If you look closely when he tapped at 0:58 the address bar is highlighted, he then proceed to type "g" on the dock which brings you to 1:02. What I don't understand is what he's trying to do 0:53 looks like tapping url or scrolling or just finger movement.

Cheers
[Asus Transformer TF700] Sycobob:
Yep, you're right. Carry on.
[Asus Transformer TF700] pierrekid:
Not sure if your trying to be funny or you are actually hearing my detector lol. I dont know if you own the dock, but that is what happens when you begin typing when the text field in browser is selected, so why would my finger be near the screen if im holding the phone in one hand and typing via dock on the other :D

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
[Asus Transformer TF700] pierrekid:
Lol yea at 53 i was trying to decide what to do next, my finger wasn't actually on the screen. Lol so just finger movement

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
[Asus Transformer TF700] darkwolfelite:
Sorry to say but I had 3 of these damn things and none of them could hold its own against the note 10.1. And yes, the 3 infinity's i went through I had each one for almost a month. So I gave each one a fair shot. Then decided to get the note 10.1. Now im not here to say you guys made a bad decision or bought a wet steamer . Everyone will like what they want to to like. But I can tell you my note 10.1 doesn't lag EVER! Even when multitasking and downloading a huge file via wifi. The note JUST WORKS! Flawlessly even and without the need of jellybeen:laugh:
[Asus Transformer TF700] HoushaSen:
I don't really want to make this another thread of Note vs. Infinity, but this is my third Infinity and I did own Note for 3 weeks. Why I came back to Infinity? Screen difference is so noticeable. And though what you said is generally true in my experience as well, the difference was too subtle at least for the purpose of my use. So comparing screen resolution which I notice every single seconds staring the screen vs. perhaps a few seconds of lag when Infinity is installing application (I don't notice lag when downloading 1GB+ file) is something I had to weight.

One thing I can say is though Infinity does seem to have some build quality difference whether due to internal or updates related. Despite no change in my use, habit, and types of applications installed this third unit I got works far superior to my original two. Based on the original two units, I was a bit skeptical coming back to Infinity, but just missed screen so much I decided to give one last shot to convince myself the purchase of Note 10.1 was indeed right choice. For the good surprise, my third unit worked far stable, speedy, and nearly zero ANR.

And Note 10.1 is not complete lag free either. Whether you call it lag or different, but Note 10.1 occasionally took forever to load a web page (same ones that usually opens up instantaneously). It even gives complete white screen while loading PDF (huge one). The difference (originally) compared to Infinity was that Note had great interrupt that as soon as you tap on other button like home button, or perhaps open new browser tab, Note 10.1 immediately responded i.e. Not really hanging. Where Infinity used to do was give ANR. But this has changed at least on my third unit.

But any event, I feel actually happy that I came back to Infinity as I could never make Note 10.1 to display in FHD, but my Infinity now runs nearly as smooth as Note 10.1 (far better than original 2 units.) so essentially as of now I got the system I want. Am I 100% satisfied? No.

My ideal tablet would be

- Full HD or even higher screen (Like new Ipad)

- Blazing fast (like high end PC i7 + high end game graphics GPU)

- Inductive Pen (Like Note 10.1)

- True multitasking (Like Windows 8)

- Never crash/freeze (Like.....)

- Reasonable price (at most $800)

- Long battery life at least 10 hours

- Light Less than 1.3 pounds

- Full application compatibility (can play all windows games, mobile games)

- Stereo sounds

- Docking station (like transformer)

- Dual monitor output

- GPS

I guess.. for now this is good enough list for me... and yes. no tablet does this. Simply we have to choose what's important for us..
[Asus Transformer TF700] tomcat420m:
You guys, lol. yes I am wrong about the more is apps you run, the device it"will run faster with more apps open.

From my 3VO running bad ass Elegencia v3 ROM using XParent Blue Tapatalk
[Asus Transformer TF700] lesonal:
My infinity is so smooth I can't believe it's not butter
[Asus Transformer TF700] markbraggs:
CleanROM

My infinity was never all that fast, even after the Jelly Bean update (even after wipe, clean install!).

Rooted, unlocked, and put CleanROM on this thing and all I can say is...WOW. This thing *flies*. No lag anywhere, I can have 6-8 tabs open at a time with no lag whereas on stock I could only have 2 open before ANR messages started popping up.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33099613#post33099613

With the most recent update, my I/O bottleneck is absolutely gone. I/O went from about 1200 on stock ROM (and cleanROM version 2.0) to nearly 7000 on CleanROM 2.2.

Yes. Seven thousand.:eek: The bottleneck is gone, and this is now without a doubt the fastest, most fluid tablet made to date.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
Does this ROM by any chance remove SQLite fsyncs? That would explain the major increase in I/O performance. The first post of the ROM thread only mentions SQL tweaks.

If that's the case, I'll pass. I don't like the added chance of data loss/corruption, even when traded for a major performance boost.
[Asus Transformer TF700] huy_lonewolf:
From what I have read so far, this ROM does not disable fsync, given its risky nature. I am still unsure about unlocking and voiding my warranty, so I have been doing some research. If I am not wrong, people are discussing about fsync on the CleanROM thread right now, but it seems CleanROM does not need to disable fsync to reach its current performance level.
[Asus Transformer TF700] RussellEstridge25:
FALSE sir, it lags when switching between multitasking screens. Its all over YouTube.

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I would LOVE to see the cleanrom2.2 in action on YouTube!!!!! Please.... convince me to unlock!!

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[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
The OP of this thread contains two videos of CleanROM in action...
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
Yes. And SQL is limited to singular in-app database calls and has no affect on system IO nor the OS itself.
[Asus Transformer TF700] RussellEstridge25:
I thought those were stock...

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[Asus Transformer TF700] DARK SIDE:
My infinity is very slow.Updated,but still lot of lags.It works like a single core mobile phone.Crap...

Sent from Asus infinity tablet
[Asus Transformer TF700] junrider:
Its good to see the infinity getting nice scores. This is my quadrant score on my note 10.1 on latest updated fully stock ROM, no root. I/O is 10 points off 7000 and a quadrant score of 5657.

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Looking back at the OP's first post it said it was running on JB.
[Asus Transformer TF700] the_unlocker1997:
I think it looks super smooth
[Asus Transformer TF700] pierrekid:
Yes both videos are me running on complete stock. Though i am hearing and seeing good things from cleanrom as well.

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
[Asus Transformer TF700] cyiam40:
CLEANROM 2.3 really makes the TF700 fly smooth! Its in the developer 5section and is highly recommended.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
I meant that it would increase scores for I/O benchmarks that normally incorporate one or more SQLite tests as well.

And saying that SQLite (SQL is a language, SQLite is the database engine used) is limited to in-app calls is downplaying it quite a bit IMO. The entire Android OS makes use of SQLite databases for various settings and preferences, user data and more. It can make a great impact on general performance of Android if SQLite operations are slow.
[Asus Transformer TF700] james6478:
what weather widget are you using on you homescreen ?
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
My bad - you are correct - OP is stock. With what is being done in the OP (swiping between home screens and swiping up and down in the Browser), CleanROM will not appear that much different. However, where CleanROM really shines is when you have a bunch of stuff running or are downloading a bunch of apps in Play store - with CleanROM, you won't experience any "pauses" at all, even when doing these things.... Basically, anything that accesses the filesystem is much faster in CleanROM - and that is *without* disabling fsync!

Plus, animations are a little smoother as well.

Seriously, if you aren't using CleanROM, you are denying your tablet the performance it deserves!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/database/sqlite/package-summary.html

http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.html#db
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
I don't really see where you're going with this. Are you saying SQLite and fsync is not an issue on the TF700?

I'm well aware of the different ways apps can store data. SQLite is still very widely used though, and poor I/O performance can heavily affect system/general performance due to SQLite fsyncs slowing it all down. Background services fetching new data, etc. Even the Android Settings application uses a database for storage. And content providers are often used as a "public interface" for exposing/sharing data that's stored in or is going into an SQLite database.
[Asus Transformer TF700] RussellEstridge25:
Yea your bad :P lol i kid i kid..
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
Einride, you are correct, disabled fsync in Zeus rom is a work around method to improve I/O issue.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
I don't see where you're going either. Apps are developed based on a set of assumptions and pre-defined functions as outlined in the API. They're also developed for the aggregate body of devices; not to compensate for issues (Asus' NAND choice) that a minority of devices might suffer which are probably unknown to the programmer. That said, when a programmer's coding and needs to select a storage solution they'll pick the one that's most appropriate. In normal application the choice of creating a proprietary (to the app) SQLite database or using Android's internal storage isn't based on performance as they're both presumed to be the same. In the stock TF700 they are.

SQLite fsync’s are there for a reason - to prevent database corruption in the event of an inelegant app closure. SQLite with fsync enabled isn't a problem on the majority of devices and I've never seen anything documented suggesting that disabling it for performance gains is either appropriate or a good idea. As someone posted above the Note gets the same score with it enabled as a tweaked TF700. As does the S4 LTE version of the TF700 which has a dedicated IO controller on the SoC. You guys, to compensate for a h/w issue, have disabled fsync and are claiming victory over Asus' well documented IO issues. The degree of performance gain is totally based on how heavily individual apps or system components rely on SQLite vs. Android storage. Look at the Androbench scores on TF700's with their SQLite settings tweaked. The disk read/write components are the same or worse than stock. That's because SQLite has nothing to do with disk reads and writes outside the minor databases it’s used for.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Actually, if you are referring to CleanROM - the author, Scott, has already confirmed that he did *not* disable fsync...

EDIT: Also, regardless of what Androbench numbers report, there *is* a performance difference when fsync is disabled. Benchmarks are not always indicative of real-world performance...
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
Also keep in mind that Zeus rom was a fastest rom on ICS. Since Asus upgraded to JB, it's a totally different operating system, we have seen the performance greatly improved already out of stock JB. It has a newer kernel and rom. If you compared benchmark between stock ICS and stock JB, it's a big different. I compared raw sqlite read/write between stock JB and Cleanrom and they pretty much the same (infact stock is slight better in most area), however, Scott seems to manage to manipulate ram and share processes which make a great user experience. Currently, if you compared JB stock rom and Cleanrom, they both as smooth and snappy except for multitasking where Cleanrom is a clear winner.

EDIT: I also found that the stock JB started to lag when the amount of available ram is dropped below 150/175 and the major ram was consumed by the browser. When I let the table sit in idea for awhile the available ram is about 400. Opened 6-7 apps only reduce the ram from 400 to like 350. However, if I open either Boat or Stock browser and open about 5-6 websites (2 are facebook, one youtube, 2 online movie streaming site, one is yahoo home page) and immediately I noticed I only have about 200 left. So if I continue open a few more and the mount of memory went to red alert. I then closed the browser, however the amount of memory remained the same, the only way I can clear the ram is run an memory recover app or closed the tablet and let it sit for awhile. So my conclusion is the browser do take up a lot of memory compared to any other apps and the process of memory is to slow to bring back the unused memory, which caused the lag or stutter.Another thing that I noticed that if I don't use the browser (with multi-websites) then my tablet is pretty fast.
[Asus Transformer TF700] pierrekid:
Im using HD widgets, pretty cool app!

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
I asked if CleanROM achieved this performance jump by disabling SQLite fsync and you quote me stating that SQL is limited to singular in-app database calls and has no effect on the system IO and OS itself. SQLite performance has a great effect on general performance and even perceived performance of this damn thing!

I've always said that the real culprit of this device is the useless NAND Asus chose and that nothing can ever really fix this, but there are obviously plenty of workaround and tweaks to somewhat overcome these limitations, as the author of CleanROM has proven. I was just curious to know if disabling SQLite fsync was one of those workarounds. And if that was the case, like I already have said plenty of times before, it'd mean counting me out as a potential user of said ROM since I ultimately prefer data consistancy over performance in this case. I haven't said we should disable fsyncs, I've said the exact opposite, in fact!

Of course performance is going to depend on the amount of SQLite usage, but even light use of that can really wreck this thing due to the horribly bad random access performance of the NAND. Having several processes trying to access the NAND at once, SQLite operations or not, makes this thing perform really, really bad.

Androbench seems to benchmark just the actual NAND device, of course the SQLite tweaks won't change any results then. Other benchmarks also test SQLite performance, which will be affected. And most importantly: increased SQLite performance (either directly or indirectly by improving NAND random read/write access) DOES AFFECT general performance of this tablet. Not just benchmark numbers, but actual user experience. You can keep stating that it's a minor issue, but it's not. Zeus ROM disabled fsync and got a big performance boost in return. Risky, yes, but also disproves your point about it being irrelevant.

Okay, that's it, I've spent enough time about this. Keyboard dock or not, it's annoying writing anything more than a few lines in this forum app.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
We agree. Sort of. The "boost" everyone talks about is primarily from what they're seeing in SQLite benchmarks. How that applies to actual performance improvements in everyday use is going to be based on the apps each individual user interacts with and how much those apps rely on SQLite. If an app doesn't use SQLite there would be no performance improvement. As for Google Apps they're meant to share content and data across apps so I doubt (a guess) that those apps and the OS itself would be using singular or private SQLite databases heavily as opposed to Android internal storage which is universally accessible. Again, a programmer picking private or universal storage isn't thinking about performance because choosing one over the other normally wouldn't affect app performance.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
Yeah, the actual performance gain will depend on apps used and usage pattern, no doubt. So we do agree. Sort of :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] busdriver319:
Camera problem

anyone has problems with Camera since the last firmware update on the tf700?

jittery and no longer crystal clear video....

also auto flash no longer avail...

is this a bug?

:eek:
[Asus Transformer TF700] DARK SIDE:
Nope.Still ok on mine..

Sample in dark

Sent from Asus infinity tablet
[Android Apps and Games] assafbz:
* StatusCall is most powerful when both sides (caller and recipient) have it, so share it with your friends to enjoy all that it has to offer.

What does it do?

Let's explore some scenarios to demonstrate

Scenario 1 (without StatusCall):

You call a friend -> he’s busy -> you wait for him to answer -> he doesn't answer -> you spent 3-5 seconds waiting for him to answer.

Scenario 2 (without StatusCall):

You call a friend -> he’s busy -> you wait for him to answer -> he answer and says he’s busy -> you spent 1-2 seconds waiting for him to answer and possibly paid for the call.

Scenario 3 (you and your friend have StatusCall):

Your friend set his status as busy (not available for calls) -> you call your friend -> StatusCall screen pops up saying he’s not available for calls but he is available for sms -> you send him an sms instead -> no time spent, no money spent.

Scenario 4 (you and your friend have StatusCall):

you set your status as busy -> 3 friends try to call you -> their call is stopped and they see you are available to sms -> the send sms -> you saved 3 distractions while you were busy.

Scenario 5 (you have StatusCall, your friend does not):

You set your status as busy -> you friend calls you -> you don’t answer -> StatusCall auto reply sms with your status suggesting him to send sms instead.

What Is It?

StatusCall is a social call, sms and status manager.

StatusCall helps you:

- Manage your status and share it.

- Stay updated with your friend's status.

- Prevent incoming calls when you are busy.

- Avoid calling friends that are busy.

- Manage your availability schedule.

- Save time and money.

* StatusCall is the only app that stops the call before it even started.

Enjoy...

Main Features

- Stops outgoing calls to unavailable contacts and suggest another course of action.

- Auto sync StatusCall contacts.

- Auto schedule status changes.

- Auto reply sms

- Notifications on contact’s status change.

- Send contact “I’m looking for you” message.

Privacy & Transparency

Please note, your privacy is very important to us.

We use your phone number and your contacts' phone numbers to sync your status list.

We do not use or share any data other than that.

We do not use or share your contact's data.

We do not keep your data in a way that will allow to restore your contact list.

search StatusCall on google play.

Assaf
[Xperia Arc General] drali500:
In the beginning of this topic I like to thank all the people here that helped me and inspired me for the past 6 months and made me love my phone more and use it to the max.

I just got a heartache when I saw the news of jb not coming for our beloved device which is capable unfortunately .sony used their own ways to make the rumors come true .

So I will sell it today I am not a fan of Sony anymore I will buy nexus or s3 or HOX, so goodbye my friends and god bless you all.

Special thanks for :

Aeon

Thilianic

JJdoctor

Pandemic

Jader

Maxio

Besttt

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And many more of you .

Sent from My Xperia U_R_J_I_B_S
[Xperia Arc General] justkiddinghere:
I also expected that atlest arc s will get jb
[Xperia Arc General] guille26:
Lot of us won't buy sony again. I'll stick to samsung or maybe LG Nexus 4. A lot of people ask me for advise when buying a new phone, Sony is banned from now on.
[Xperia Arc General] tinyXperia:
Only Sony if they release acceptable hardware with unlocked bootloader. Probably LG or Nexus for me next year.

Via Mobile
[Xperia Arc General] chauhanjayc:
this is what i think

i dont know more about this

but as i have noticed and i have seen as weel

compair to SAMSUNG and LG sony is giving at list 2 updates as well as if you take a close look at UI and hardware design then you will realize that sony is making such nice handset of the level where in samsung LG cant even think

one very true incident

in my family most of people are using sony and you all guys wont believe they all have even not update to ics they has to say that its more then enough

so if you think keeping general customer in hand then they all are satisfied

but you for development crezzy genies like you all guys sony should at list provide 4.1.1 or 5.1 to arc s as that is the most and the last expensive handset by SE(sony ericsson)

here i have just shared my opinion i may b wrong or right but this is what i think
[Xperia Arc General] jader13254:
I don't like sony because...

- Screens are not so good imho

- Outdated Hardware

- Crappy build quality just lost my arc while jogging and now its screen is cracked and i can pay 130$ haha Never... I'll buy new phone

- Exmor R actually really sucks compared to Note 2 Camera for example

- Really Slow. My arc on stock ics had 0.00MB free RAM.
[Xperia Arc General] mr_torture:
- Screens are not crap. And it doesn't look unsharpen because of contrast but because of much lower dots-per-inch density. And, comparing an phone released in january 2011 with one released in may 2012... Really?

- Get yourself an Samsung/Apple device, and let it fall while you're jogging. Let us know the result.

- Exmor R Sucks?

- Yes, the ICS update is quite slow, mostly because of laziness of Sony programmers, not because of crappy hardware.
[Xperia Arc General] jader13254:
1. I said it look unsharpen AND low contrast. I hate sony screens

2. Ok. I dropped my iPod 3 times at same day and no probs at all

3. Yes, very high colored Pixels (dont remeber word)

4. Yeah
[Xperia Arc General] drali500:
My Mighty WhiteHOX has arrived

Goodbye SONY & welcome HTC
[Xperia Arc General] mr_torture:
Good luck with white hox! :D

http://gizmodo.com/5931430/htc-one-x-after-4-months-weird-batteries-and-wimpy-gorrillas
[Xperia Arc General] gogobaba:
Well about the ppl comparing arc s and samsung galaxy s 3 are u ****ing kiding me? ?? 4 cored phone vs single core ? with around 1 and a half year defferance ?Sony was never really good at developers phones.Sony/sony ericsson was good at making beautiful phones and thats what arc is and now xperia T.In my opinion arc s gives all the productivity the main stream user needs.If u were looking for a developer's phone u should have bought nokia n900 or HTC HD 2 and test whatever software u want.I still have friends that are all new software inthusiasts and they are still using hd 2 with ICS on it.So... pls stop crying about sony not adding more and more updates to there 2011 phones.U cant ever compare arc s to sg s2 because s2 got 2 times the proccesor power and if u bought atnt version it got even more soooo ***** please