yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PuffMaN:
Did you try to pull the battery and boot recovery? Could be ur droid is freaking out bcause its out of space. If you can boot recovery, do a factory reset, and if that wont work reflash the rom.

Verzonde jonge! Van mijne Nexus 7! Verrekte kut!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keronja:
Yes but no luck. I tried RUU it went thru on my PC but still a black screen. I took it apart and everything is connected OK. When I press POWER the buttons light up and I can hear the music when booting, also fastbood devices detects it. But I still have the black screen problem.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
Sudden SLCD brick? Weird. Check droidzone's guide out. Maybe it helps.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=831734

Or maybe your screen cable got somehow disconnected.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PuffMaN:
Highly unlikely, unless he pushed a hammer on his screen to open his skype :p

Verzonde jonge! Van mijne Nexus 7! Verrekte kut!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agungasd:
Anyone tries nightlies yet? I'd been flashed 11-12 4.4.1 and 13-12 4.4.2 version and getting force close with setup wizard, can't change the home launcher too. I'd been managed to get launcher working by deleting setupwizard.apk via aroma but then gapps not working and cant login to google.

Otherwise, everything still amazing
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deluxion:
I'm on ev_bravo-nightly-2013.12.10-squished and haven't noticed any force close or reboots.

Planning to flash 14-12 now.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stathvag:
Just flashed 14-12 with 4.4.2 gapps core from EVupdater. Everything works perfect!!! No FC's no reboots.

Keep up the perfect work!!!!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keronja:
Will try, I took it apart already and everything is well connected, will now try this guide and get back to you.

True that :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keronja:
I did the check to see if my phone is unbraded it came back with HTC_032 so which one of these http://www.shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo should I download?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !@ndre@!:
What is the best memory management script for this ROM?

Now I've installed the build-in A2SD script but, if I don't move the dalvik cache to the sd-ext, I can install only few apps.

If I move the dalvik cache I can install all the apps that I need but the phone becomes very slow.

Is there any alternative script which works better?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sverfaillie:
Running this ROM with the build in a2sd xdata script. This option links the entire /data directory externally. Including the dalvik cache. I have a 1.5 GB sd-ext partition on a class 10 sdcard. Works perfect for me, and my phone remains very responsive. Big advantage of xdata option is that you don't need any internal data partition anymore, so you can increase your system partition, I use 270mb for system partition. If you don't have a class 10gb card, I recommend to invest in one...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !@ndre@!:
I have a class 10 sd card but I noticed that moving the dalvik cache on it makes my phone very slow.

Generally I use:

a2sd install

y

n

y

What have I to change for trying xdata?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sverfaillie:
Simply type

a2sd xdata

instead of a2sd install.

One note of advice. Although there is a volume check at every start of the phone it happened to me that the initial reverse mount fails. So your phone boots with using the original internal data partition. In that case you need to open a terminal and do a a2sd checkext. Reboot afterwards
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !@ndre@!:
I think that my sd card is not very fast.

With sd tools I have more or less 11-12MB in write and also in read.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sverfaillie:
That's a class 10 : 10mbit/s .... So fast enough.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !@ndre@!:
I've seen online the benchmark of some class 10 SD cards with more than 15 mbit/s..

Tomorrow I will try xdata!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dimmy1405:
wifi tethering?

in the final evervolv build, does there is solved the problem with the wifi tethering?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] enix2k:
can't uninstall apps

Just flashed ev nightly build 20131215 today...

It is very smooth and fast.

But I found the rom has some system apps can't be uninstalled,

such as google currents, picasa uploader?

Every time removed, after reboot and them backed... >"<

Why and how to remove these system apps?

Help and thanks!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dimmy1405:
Before flashing the rom, open it from pc the zip file, locate the system apps, you will see there are the APK files and just delete the apps you dont want
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weslyr:
It's my turn again to ask some questions :)

1. i noticed that the evervolv updater tool can download the rom/gapps files and also reboot into recovery (very neat).

But when I download the files and let the tool reboot into revocery then there is no automatic flashing of the files (i have to manually browse to the zip and flash it).

- Is this normal (manual browse/flash) or do i need a specific compatible recovery version?

2. I'm using A2SD install (yny) and this works fine. But I have two apps that are very big and i would like to have those specific apps on my sd-card (instead of only the dalvik cache on sd). When I'm moving the app to SD (either through Android apps setting or in Titanium Backup - data move) then this works fine (i can see that the used internal space is less than before the move) and the app is still usable (although a tiny bit slower). But when I reboot, then the app has dissapeared and I have to manually install it again.

- Is this normal? Can anyone verify this behaviour?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sverfaillie:
I cannot comment on 1 as I always do an upgrade manually. I would guess that there is no possibility to instruct recovery to load an upgrade file. Seems dangerous to me.

On 2, if you lack space you can do an a2sd xdata if you have a class 10 SD card.

Move to SD is not working. It's a known bug.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2012katas:
For the first one, evervolv's nightly updates use openrecovery script so that installation can be automated, it works fine for me with twrp 2.6.0.0 by nikez :)

Second one is a known bug which might be fixed in later releases...........

Btw the latest nighlies based on 4.4.2 are incredibly fast and smooth........w8ing for nikez p3 though :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weslyr:
Thank you for the answers all!

I'm going to give TWRP a try then, because i'm curious to see the automated updates at work (it seems neat).

The version on nikez.nu is 2.6.0 though (while the latest seems to be 2.6.3 on http://teamw.in/project/twrp2). Is there a way to install the latest version for our device or is the 2.6.0 version the only option for now?

btw here is the TWRP changelog for the latest version:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WatsonDue:
With our phone, and a2sd, what is really important on sd cards is random write and random read values.

Choosing a sdcard only looking at his max sequentially speed is a nonsense.

Also, usually cheap class 10 sdcards has very bad random i/o.. that will make your phone become slow.

Last, if you want performances, just keep dalvik cache on internal memory, that is much faster than any sd card.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !@ndre@!:
I know that keeping dalvik cache on the internal memory is the best way but, if I keep it there, I haven't got enough space for installing all the apps that I need.

Now I'm trying with a2sd xdata but the performances, obviously, are not good.

Is there any other memory management system that gives me more space on the internal memory than a2sd y/n/y without moving the dalvik cache?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WatsonDue:
I don't know how to do with KitKat, but with JB I slimmed my rom a bit, to fit in a 190 MB system hboot. This way I have much more space in /data, and the phone is quite faster. The app "App Cache Cleaner" do the rest, freeing some space now and then.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !@ndre@!:
I have a problem with Titanium Backup.

If I click on the memory section it starts computing the space used by each app but, after several seconds, it crashes without a force-close.

Have you got the same issue?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weslyr:
Well I went ahead and installed TWRP 2.6.0.0 from nikez.nu (using "flash_image recovery recovery-bravo-twrp-2.6.0.0-2013.07.16.img" command in terminal as root) without a problem.

The automatic flashing works very well! It's quite awesome to update from the Evervolv update-tool to the latest nightly without doing a thing (all steps like wiping and browsing/flashing are all automated). And i definately like the touchcontrol and filebrowsing capabilities in recovery (no more weird volume/power button actions).

Btw i'm on the latest nightly (2013.12.18) with the evervolv core-gapps (kk4.4.2-20131211) and sofar no problems (except for the 'move to sd' bug which is already elaborated on). Very smooth!

I had this problem too with the latest trial version of Titanium Backup. I then tried the latest pro version and that solved the issue (no more crashes when checking disk usage fo apps).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxens63:
Any news about MMS not working ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serrano:
About external sd-ext size limits

BTW, sorry for this, as it's a bit off-topic, but these days people are bringing back the topic of using a2sd xdata, probably because of the issue with Android internal Move 2 SD feature which has been detected in Evervolv KitKat for HTC Desire.

I've been using a2sd xdata for a long time with different Android versions, with a class 6 SD card of 32 GB and it works pretty well. Definitely not as fast as keeping dalvik cache on internal memory, but fast enough for me. According to what I read time ago in several threads, the recommended size for the external sd-ext filesystem is 1 GB-1.5 GB, because larger file systems may cause issues (cannot find the exact quote but there were many of them by the time). And that's why I've been using an sd-ext partition of 1-1.5 GB for a couple of years without any noticeable issues, manually using the Move 2 SD feature on a per app basis when I needed extra space... until a couple of weeks ago, when I hit the "Move to SD"/ "Couldn't install on USB Storage or SD card" issue reported here (and by many other people):

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=48220237&postcount=591

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=48389796&postcount=4246

So I grew the sd-ext file system to 2 GB after that, and it's been working perfectly without any glitch for two weeks already. Any reason I shouldn't extend it further to... for example, 8 GB? Does anyone know a valid reason to stick to the 1-1.5 GB limit? When using a2sd with the recommended performance-oriented set-up (yny options), dalvik cache can get filled as you add apps even before you run out of sd-ext space, therefore justifying the 1-1.5 GB sd-ext limit but, when using a2sd xdata (yyy options), dalvik cache is on sd-ext, so there is no risk that dalvik cache can get filled before you run out sd-ext space.

Other problems you may have when installing more apps in your extra sd-ext space is that you run out of memory (RAM) because of new running services and/or your mobile slows down as new periodic tasks wake up, etc., but these kind of background processes can be put under control with apps such as Greenify (as long as their functionality is not critical for you).

Anything I'm missing? Any other reason to stick to 1-1.5GB? :confused:

PS: Just resized my sd-ext from 1.98 GiB to 7.84 GiB with gparted. So far so good. A small pause because of an fsck of the now smaller FAT partition (sdcard0). I guess the sd-ext fsck will take a bit longer now, but that shouldn't be a problem, so let's unleash the app-aholic!

PS2: I guess I should get a new phone... but I'm curious about how far our old trusty Desire can be pushed with the help of our devs!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dimmy1405:
Seems you have been experimenting with the ROM, I have 1gB ext, now that I'm critical with the internal memory, trying to download from Play Store, showed me "Couldn't install on USB storage or SD card" but I am using Aptoid to download apps, this app first downloads the file as apk on SD card then installs the app, which I think Play Store downloads directly on internal memory the app which takes up the space where the app should be installed...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serrano:
Maybe your problem is neither in Aptoide nor in the lack of space. Check your logcat. If you find something like this:

12-11 22:41:53.597: E/Vold(120): Error creating imagefile [B](Read-only file system)[/B]
12-11 22:41:53.597: E/Vold(120): ASEC image file creation failed (Read-only file system)
12-11 22:41:53.597: W/Vold(120): Returning OperationFailed - no handler for errno 30
12-11 22:41:53.607: E/PackageHelper(12760): Failed to create secure container smdl2tmp1
12-11 22:41:53.607: E/DefContainer(12760): Failed to create container smdl2tmp1

... then probably it is related to the issue of moving apps to SD (sdcard, not sd-ext). It also manifests when you install apps which are configured to be (partially) installed to SD by default. AFAIK, the issue seems to be related to changes in Vold/storage configuration in KitKat.

For the moment, my Desire is doing well with 8GB sd-ext, plenty of space. But I cannot move apps to SD, even though I don't need to anymore.... and I cannot install some apps which go to SD.

BTW, as a workaround, if you have enough internal memory, you can try to force the app to install in internal memory. According to this, an Android APK manifest attribute android:installLocation could be changed from auto or preferExternal (probably the one your app is currently using) to internalOnly.

So, grab your app APK file (for example, with the Chrome extension APK Downloader), and unpack it with apktool:

apktool.bat decode app.apk applocaldir

Modify applocaldir/AndroidManifest.xml, from this:

<manifest android:versionCode="4" android:versionName="1.3" [B]android:installLocation="preferExternal"[/B] package="..." ...

To this:

<manifest android:versionCode="4" android:versionName="1.3" [B]android:installLocation="internalOnly"[/B] package="..." ...

Build the modified APK:

apktool.bat build apklocaldir app_internal.apk

You may have to resign it, for avoiding PackageParser errors: package has no certificates at entry ...

I had to do it, using the key store created by the Android SDK (the password is android):

jarsigner -verbose -keystore %USERPROFILE%\.android\debug.keystore app_internal.apk androiddebugkey

And then you can install it again. I think that there are tools such as BatchAPKTools and APK Multitool that may streamline the process of unpacking/packing/signing, but I haven't tried them. The described process allowed me to install a famous Tennis app on last Nikez ROM which was previously failing with the infamous "Couldn't install on USB storage or SD card" because of having a preferExternal install location and because of the pending issue related to vold/storage configuration in KitKat (of course, it got installed on sd-ext pseudo-internal memory, not on real internal memory).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dimmy1405:
Thanx for your effort, I have successfully installed the desired apps via Aptoide that I couldn't install from Play Store... I have plenty of apps installed and I'm running out of memory already... I'll attach the screenshots here of my installed apps, all I will ask from you is to tell me your opinion is my DESIRE (ROM) doing well with the memory?

Thank you!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weslyr:
I believe I encountered the same problem (I was trying to install an app that was installed by default on SD).

Everytime i tried to install the app I got the message "Couldn't install on USB storage or SD card" .

I used the following workaround to get the app installed by the Play Store:

- enable the Rootfs mountpoint as RW instead of RO (I used Ghost Commander app to do this).

Unfortunately this method doesn't stay after a reboot...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !@ndre@!:
I don't remember how to correctly install LowSoundFixer. On /system/app or it's The same in sd-ext? Permissions?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aledex:
I have nightly-2013-12-18, and the dialer doesn't work... It crashes as soon as I try to phone someone or to display all the contacts...

I am now trying to download 2013-12-20, hoping it fixes the problem...

EDIT: mmh 2013-12-20 seems to have a problem with wifi authentication, I advice to avoid flashing it.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kostelo:
I am on 18/12/13 nightly too and I have no problem with the dialer. Maybe you should try a clean flash after full wipe and start over, just for a test.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sverfaillie:
I have the impression that the camera focus is not working 100%. Can somebody confirm ?

Using nikez kk p2 and the nightlies.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dimmy1405:
i think it is working as it should except the fact the is a little bit slow and it seems like it is not focusing

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i cannot get the device id... "send heartbeat to server" i click on it, it does nothing, in the settings menu i click dump to log... nothing.. any help please...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxens63:
Looks like the cam is working, but doesn't save any data anywhere.

And can anybody make MMS working ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serrano:
It's working pretty fine for me. You may try with other camera apps, including Google Camera (download it here, taken from BaNkS GApps thread).

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Try with Device Id.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weslyr:
I saw that APK and have been wondering since:

- isn't the stock KitKat camera (which is provided in the current Evervolv rom) the same as the Google camera?

If not, what are the differences in features?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serrano:
AFAIK, performance and stability, probably some Nexus 5-specific fixes (as the APK is taken from Android 4.4.2 for Nexus 5). Anyway, there are plenty of alternative camera apps to try, including CM Focal.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Co.Tibi:
I read somewhere that KitKat has an option to emulate NFC functionality so that it would actually work on devices without the NFC chip. Does it work on Desire?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mhoekstra:
Evervolv or kitkang?

Hello, first of all thanks for the hard work on these old devices i was just wondering wich one of the 2 4.4roms works best, im using it as a daily driver now with a galaxy ace2 as a backup phone (not related so ignore it if you like) any tips on a good midrange droid? camera doesnt have to be the best i just want a fast phone and it has be a device with custom roms for it
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LaidbackNikez:
Hmm? It basically means that a NFC-capable phone can store a and emit a NFC-card on the actual phone, like, say you have a keycard to your job, you could - in theory (if you know the keys to each sector) store that card on your phone and just place your phone to the card-reader, thus rendering that card obsolete. So, the answer to your question: No.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sverfaillie:
Hope this is the right forum to inform about anomalies I have encountered using this ROM (p2 and subsequent nighties):

Some observations on the WiFi behaviour:

In previous ROM's I used there was a screen to define the WiFi priority. Is this available in this ROM ?

After a reboot the ROM connects to the first WiFi point it finds, and not to the last one it was connected to. Is this the normal behaviour, or should it reconnect to the last WiFi access point ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PuffMaN:
[MENTION=3678722]LaidbackNikez[/MENTION] read this?

http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)

They say it is for Nexus devices, but our bravo is based on the n1 and is qualcomm powered. This could potentially improve our device's performance in your hands. Take a look at it, maybe it can be of help.

Verzonde jonge! Van mijne Nexus 7! Verrekte kut!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Co.Tibi:
I'm actually using this patches on nexus 7 2013 and the improvement is visible.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drb01:
WiFi tethering

Has anyone got WiFi hotspot to work? I can only get my LG G Pad to connect to the HTC Desire hotspot if it is unsecured. Otherwise the LG just says ""Saved, secured". With Cyanogen I had no problems. Am running the nightly from 26Dec and everything else works like clockwork.The phone says the hotspot is active.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !@ndre@!:
Has anyone tried it with our Desire?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Emmes:
i've just flashed both files successfully. But i don't notice any improvements in performance. Scored 3661 at antutu benchmark. Unfortunately i forgot to do an antutu test before flashing :(

Evervolv Nightly 24.12. without gapps installed
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quimbexa:
Does the youtube app work on the latest nightlies? Thanks ;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PuffMaN:
Are you on dalvik or art? Improvements are only on dalvik. Barely noticable on art, as stated in the article.

As far as i can tell, youtube is working just fine.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aledex:
I've tried too.

- Evervolv Nightly 24.12 with gapps 11.12

- XData

- Wifi ON

- Sync OFF

BEFORE: 3416

AFTER: 3574

As you can see:

+ multitask

+ CPU float-point

+ Storage I/O

- dalvik

- CPU integer

- RAM operation

- RAM speed

- 2D graphics

- 3D graphics

- Database I/O

...so I'm not entirely sure this mods actually help our desire :D

In reality they don't change anything, by the way.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quimbexa:
The proper app or the old one?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Emmes:
For sure i'm on dalvik!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Co.Tibi:
Can someone point me to the proper gapps for this 4.4 release. I beg you. Thanks in advance
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Emmes:
Latest Youtube (Vers: 5.3.28) is working well with 24.12. Nightly

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here you'll find the core gapps (12.14.):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2012857

i flashed previous core gapps (12.6.-KK4.4.1!) and even they work bugfree with nightly build 24.12.!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Co.Tibi:
I just installed the latest nightly and BaNkS Gapps and I get a weird issue after the first boot. The only thing that appears is the notification bar from where I can get into settings and I can't add any account (including google account). After I do a restart the phone gets start in a boot loop and I have to reflash... Anyone knows what I've done wrong?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Emmes:
Are you on stock hboot and which recovery are you running?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Co.Tibi:
Installing without Gapps works well. Does anyone know where I could get the standard Gapps for this nightlies with Google Play and all?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Emmes:
You cant install standard gapps because of lack of space in /system (250mb on stock hboot). On ext4 recovery you can check how much space is left on /system after flashing the rom. If it's too little then delete some unneeded files from system or you can also try this extra slimmed gapps from nbsss:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2265564

There's also an built-in Updater in the Rom itself where also the latest gapps can be downloaded (->settings->Evervolv->Updates->Gapps). Latest gapps then would be:

gapps-kk442-20131211-core.zip. But i dont know at which forum/thread/homepage these gapps were published...