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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DarkStone82:
K900, I really want to believe you, however "due course" is an incredibly vague statement. Could be soon, as you said November, could be by end of year December near holiday season. Or it could be after their newer flagship phones receive the update. Sony should just say yes it will roll out in 2012 or no it will not roll out till 2013, I would be happier with that statement than "due course"

Just my two cents

Love my Acro S
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] acervenky:
Be positive guys:cowboy:

It will be much easier to port JB From P to U and Sola(Same Chipsets)

Hope that Sony Will Release It Soon.(Diwali:D)

Regards,

acervenky,

XPT
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Anilikos:
awesome dissapointment by sony
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] GiantAxe:
might be ust me but i dont expect much from a JellyBean update from sony themselves anyway, look at all the bugs that made when they gave us ICS. Its that we got XDA developers to fix stock firmwares, remove all the bloatware and optimize them cause otherwise the stock ROMS would be pure thrash.

the upside: Camera drivers, with that CM10 should be near usable as a daily driver.

kinda funny that there was another blog posted at that link btw, Sony not updating 2011 devices to Jellybean? I mean c'mon, they are 1 year old, they seem to drop support for their devices afther 1 year or something. So that might aswell mean that afther next year the Xperia S/P/Arc etc wont get updates either. :( lets just hope this isnt the case.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lee480:
I think they trying to do something special for both Sola and U. Both have unique features that the rest do not have.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Anilikos:
the fact is that xperia U is a 2012 model not getting the upgrade. Talking about coherence
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nemer12:
so no JB for sony xperia S this november?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] reaper61616:
If Sony tells as 'q1 2013' I will expect SW update q2...

BTW. Let everyone sell our devices and make some money and buy galaxy nexus or something like this.

Sony is f**king kidding!!!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
The next Nexus coming up will be mine for sure. Sonys just too embarassing.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] revan17:
Official Sony blog:

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...rades-jelly-bean-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/

Unofficial blog:

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/10/1...-xperia-devices-rolling-out-from-mid-q1-2013/

There's a big difference in those two sentences.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] techno-np:
Sony is releasing too many phones at the same time. That's why they are delaying and having problems updating their phones..and consumers get angry. Heck!! Now I also can't keep track of which phone is the new flagship..:confused:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] amarjit_rsingh:
Indeed a Good News for Sony Xperia Go Users :laugh:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] XperianPro:
Are you guys stupid or what Go and P are same as U and Sola,blog writer probably left them out by accident.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] revan17:
Point is the unofficial blog, which started all this BS, specifically stated early Xperia 2012 will get the updates AFTER the late 2012 models, which is not the case at all. They said we will get JB and they will give detailed timings of the release in due course.

JB was only released for little over 3 months, no? Logic implies they need more time for phones which are just rolling out, not for phones which are already on the market and already been worked on.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] PLovrin:
I don't understand this official announcement completely.. Will Xperia 2012 phones get it before T,TX and V or later?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Before.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] PLovrin:
This is very good:) Thanks!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] felipevsw:
"Xperia U users are excluded."

YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
Okay I just went through a cleaned this thread of the little flame war that was going on.

To the parties involved and I think you know who you are I suggest that if you don't like what the other has to say then add them to your ignore list problem solved.

Regards

E.

Moderator
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Mayank7795:
XU should get JB update.. :|

XU which has a dual-core processor should get the JB update...

But I would really appreciate the JB update if XU is really able to handle it as the problematic part can be the RAM.

I am a ICS XU user and I know the speed difference between an XU phone running Stock GB and an XU running Stock ICS.

After updating to ICS, XU has become a tad bit slow. The multitasking experience has gone down with ICS as XU is a bit low on RAM side.

Therefore, If Sony thinks that XU would be able to run atleast as smooth as ICS then I appreciate the update otherwise not. :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] richteralan:
Sony learned how to announce the announcement of an ETA for JB on Xperia S?

I am now inclined to sell my Xperia S but I'll wait for their ETA announcement first.

Sony, this is not the right way to get back in the smartphone game, if you really want to get back to it.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zed011:
They are making a lot of phones to throw into the market hoping that people will begin to notice them. Sure, they do this to try to offer more choices but do note they have limited resources and now divided attention to software development for each phone they release. Ultimately, the best user experience comes down to polished software and that is what impresses people the most.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] CrazyPeter:
Totally shambolic. Samsung and HTC are already rolling out updates and Sony is still 6 months away.

If the really believe they are going to be a big player, they are living in a dreamworld.

The big question in my head is do they think those sort of timescales are acceptable? I hope they are embarrassed, if not they should be
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
My worst fears confirmed. Their 2013 line up will be launching with JB and not 4.2 as other competitors will be doing. I'm more convinced that Sony try to put android in a straight jacket. They choose to always be behind on software. It's deliberate. Of this I'm now sure.

We'll it's LG for me in 2013 unless Samsung do something about that toichwiz
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] crazeazn:
I know I'm in the minority here but is the xperia SL in this mix?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] IdeosDev:
If sony really decide that it won't release for the Xperia U or Sola.

Hopefully i can get it ported/somehow build over Xperia U or Sola :)

Luckily Xperia P is listed as i am going to get it after my final exam
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ultracity:
And Xperia U won't receive it? What is that? Very disappointed if this comes true...

Enviado desde mi Sony Xperia U usando Tapatalk.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Galaxen:
Sony is really a disgrace.. they are deliberately ruining their chances. Flooding the market with phones with "old" hardware and software promising upgrades.. which come long long after their releases and long after the competition upgrade their flagships. :confused: thank god for the devs here.:good:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mrsatan:
Very dissappointing move from sony. I wanted to stay with sony for my next phone but I may go with that LG nexus if they annouce a 32 gb model.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Carcass.br:
Not being a **** or something like that, but I really want to know why are you sure about that.

I know that is a logical question, but by now, from Sony I expect anything...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Mr.Krypton:
Xperia U will get it, I think they investigating it :(

and I posted this on FB
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] alexwu98:
Why does Sony take so long with their software? i just bought the 2012 top of the line Xperia TX and i have to wait till 2013 for JB? Good thing i moved on from my Xperia S already ..by the time the Xperia S is upgraded, my grandma will be using it, probably she'd moved onto a newer phone by then too
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mad_4u:
why don't we get our voice up and say Sony Stop

so we can work on Facebook and Twitter warning people to not buy any Sony phones at this time so Sonyu will be forced by it's customer to provide update on ally 2011-2012 Phone to JB

as Sony currently selling more Phone they only care about the income and they don't care about keeping customers as they already sold the phone to you and got your money.

1 Message to Sony can force them release updates ASAP, that if we work together by killing Sony phones sales.

at that time they would know currant customer comes 1st.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] alexpraga:
Frankly, I need my phone to work free of stupid bugs and giving me a smooth experience. IMHO Google is launching Android updates faster than manufacturers can cope with all hw adaptations and verifications.

This is not just about porting a new android release to satisfy a bunch of geeks that just care about flashing the latest JB to their friends from other tribes.

This is about launching a mature update on a product that is being used by a lot of regular people and just expect things to happen when they click the icons. You don't do that overnight with a component that was not developed by your team.

The question is how you separate these two target groups? Maybe we could register at a Sony platform and inform Sony that we, the geeks, are willing to sacrifice stability in use and participate in the testing of the preliminary pre-release versions they're developing.

English is not my native language so I expect not to have offended anyone as that was not my intention.

All in all I would expect that Sony had removed all minor bugs in my XPS ICS (. 45). But now they have to commute to a different JB baseline and everything will restart. That annoys me!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
Sorry mate! But you can keep your Xperia T. That phone has the worst display I've seen on a high end phone in a long long time. So so washed out. If you think it was a good choice to get that from the S then you've got money to burn. I compared both side by side and the T's display was just so inferior.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zangetsu2188:
The thing is, some or most users don't even care for android version update. I have an officemate with the same phone, I borrowed it and to my surprise, it is still running gingerbread. It works just fine so she didn't even bother updating it. And my sister's galaxy s II is still on 2.3.3 even though an update is available months ago.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
Sure there are folks out there that couldn't care less what software version they've got but unfortunately they are not the ones reviewing the phones. I agree that Sony has always targeted the more basic smartphone users but this policy hasn't exactly been successful has it. In reality they have been relegated to the 2nd tier in the game. I have never read or watched any review in which Xperias are held in the same category as Samsung, HTC or LG. Sony phones are always described as being good but just not good enough which is true.

Samsung has shipped over 30 million units of their GS3. We may not like how their phones are designed and presented but they are always spot on with hardware and software.

I can see 2013 being as poor for Sony as 2011 was. 2012 was better primarily because of the Xperia s and all the good will that followed Sony's takeover of the group. We all wished for the best but once again we have been bitterly disappointed.

I got the Xperia s cautiously. In fact I did not put my SIM in for a few days because I was sure I would return it. The display and very fast performance on gb eventually won me over as I thought the phone would get even faster once ics eventually landed. Boy was that wishful thinking.

I will be moving on in 2013 but this time definitely away from Sony. Two Sony smartphones, x10 and the S. I have been very disappointed with the software from both. I'd have to be crazy to go Sony again next year.

I'll leave the die hard fanboys to carry on with Sony and all its nonsense. I've had my fill of it
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zangetsu2188:
Yeah right. Just like what happened to Xperia arc when migrated to ICS, full of unpleasant experiences. Now with the S, the disappointing quick launch bug and so on and on.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lee480:
At least is very smooth for the XPU :P
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrBelter:
Looks like UK generic Xperia S is stuck with a bug ridden ICS for the next 24 months then.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] PrimeDeluxe:
Even HTC is faster now.

I think also LG will be update earlier :(

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] monivan:
Guys look! It's what my unreliable Sony page CAMBODIA told me!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rohit3221:
Can you ask him about U and Sola ?

Thnx!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] richteralan:
That would make a lot of sense.

Basically the whole NXT line is abandoned.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
Maybe it wasn't such a good thing afterall. At least in the Sony Ericsson days we got poor software and updates but there was some schematic to how events unfolded. With just Sony, we still have the same problems but with added confusion and chaos. First they updated the 2011 line up to ics before nxt. Now they're updating T and others before nxt. Maybe they've got something against their own creations. Strange as if it wasn't for nxt, particularly the S, they would have struggled to sell phones. Does anyone truly believe the T will sell as well as the S did. Talk about shooting yourselves in the foot.

This Sony ship has become a bit to ridiculous and chaotic for me, I'm deserting it in 2013 and I suggest to all.... Abandon ship!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Loris93:
Sony facebook pages can't be trusted.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] monivan:
I agreed with you!

They said "I don't know, maybe no jb"
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SnowOokami:
get your facts straight dude.

only certain branded phones can't be unlocked. All sim-only phones should be unlockable.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mccabeross:
Let us know when you have solid information...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] josie87:
Do you work for Samsung or apple?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] richteralan:
I guess I work for myself.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] chitose_ndy:
Well...

I think I should move to Samsung too..

I've been too loyal to sony and they just keep getting worse and worse..

From Sony Ericsson Jalou, x10minipro, arc, xperia S.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] alexwu98:
I own the Xperia TX and although theres 'apparently' no difference between T and TX screens, there actually is. If you look it up, there are A and B versions of screen used on the T/TX. The "no air gap" screen was used in the first batch, and the "opticontrast" screen is used in newer batches. I have the opticontrast screen and that said, its not washed out or has that white tint problem when you tilt it at an angle. And owning an Arc S, Xperia S as well as the TX, i can say without lying that the screen is just as good as the S, if not a bit more vibrant.:).
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zed011:
Are you going to ask that to anyone who posts criticism about Sony? They are losing respect and support by denying 2011 phone owners jellybean not because the hardware can't run it but because they chose not to. They cut off support before the 18 months are up. Now they are slow to release jellybean to the Xperia S that came out earlier that S3 which now already has jellybean. Is jellybean going to be the last update for the S? It seems that way from their past history. They do not stand by the products they release enough. We can't simply just ignore some of the disappointments of late. Some of us have had Sony phones for a long time. We want them to be successful but they are not doing themselves any favors right now. I cannot blindly support them the way they handle themselves these days.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] richteralan:
For the record, I will never buy a Samsung. I can't stand HTC Sense.

The Sony Timescape is actually THE best manufacturer skin.

But with their recent update schedule announcement......

---------- Post added at 07:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:24 PM ----------

The Google Update Alliance is dead.

18 months? Launch a flagship device one major version behind, take 6 months to update to again one major version behind, then take 3 months to announce the announcement of update plan, then take 6 months for the actual update to again one major version behind....

18 months?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] chitose_ndy:
Actually I agree with u. The UI from all the phone I think sony is the most beatiful.

And I can't lie that love Sony since the first time I bought Sony Ericsson Jalou.

I wish sony would make a great movement so that his loyal costumers like us happy and proud of Sony

Anyway, I just confused here in Indonesia.

Many rumors seems not right.

Like rumors about Jelly Bean or new phones.

I just can't trust any news in Indonesia itself.

:|
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] linsbr:
Sometimes I think people don't know how to read or simply don't want to...

A lot of people with knowledge of Sony development (including K900) already said that the JB release for some 2012 models is coming this year.. up until now K900 was a total reliable source, so I don't see why not to trust in this info...

The only major letdown really is not upgrading the 2011 devices, or at least the most high-end specs among then (Arc, Arc S and maybe Pro and Ray)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MadManMark:
Sony made an official announcement why would we not listen
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] itachilinux:
is it true? if true, i can wait... but if not... i will waiting CM10 or MIUI JB for Sola...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] josie87:
The 2011 JB... I had an Xperia Mini. It was fine with ICS. Sony promised us ICS, we got it (lately). The Mini is super with ICS and if you want JB, just flash CM10.

These 18 months are a misleasding number. As far as I know the manufactures will support every device with updates when necessary within these 18 months. This doesn't necessary include upgrades. As sad as it is.

Everybody here who is complaining should get an idea of development. He will understand how hard it is and how long it takes. Not to forget all these nasty, expensive certification and beta testing. All costs a lot of money and won't necessary raise your sells. Most costumers think they are good when they can distinguish between ios and android. The won't run for a new version of android.

So an os upgrade is like a present for the costumer, it costs you money as a company and you wont get it back in with this device IMMEDIATLY.

The immediatly is the keyword why so many companys don't even consider upgrading their devices on the day the hell freezes. In an interest based money system with CEOs planning a maximum of 4 years in advance (and really: their horizon ends there), it's only logical. I don't say that it's good, but try please try to understand that.

Why do you think we still have combustion engines in our cars, can throw away a lot of technical products ofter the warranty is over, and cellphones wich become obsolent as they are sold? It's the system, an iterest driven system needs always (fast, short-term,exponential) growth to survive....

@everybody who is pissed:

I didn't want to attack you as I asked who you work for. It was just that the tone and the language of some got that mean that one could get the impression of marketing. Critics is always ok, but stay constructive.

@again at wverybody who is pissed:

Please everybody start thinking about our economy system as a whole. It harms all of us humans arround the world and kills the environment. It's time for all of us to wake up!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] alexwu98:
^

Are you a Sony employee?? Nah just kidding, yea you got a good point there
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zed011:
If they can raise their reputation by going beyond and giving 2011 devices JB then why don't they? It could lead to more sales because they will gain the trust and confidence of customers even if they had to spend money to do so. Sure, there will be complaints about not updating after JB but any rational person would understand that enough time has passed from the age of the phone to not receive anymore updates. A lot of people are hoping that because JB is a building block on ICS with a huge improvement on speed, they would get one last update. Seeing how they spend so much more effort on releasing new devices surely they could spend some time to focus on software. You see so many people are frustrated with Sony by their recent announcement because that they made an unjustifiable excuse to not update them by stating that they cannot “guarantee owners of these smartphones the user experience you expect and we demand". Everyone here knows any devices that can run ICS will run better on JB, not slower. If they are going to leave a lasting impression on a phone like the arc, it is not a great one because it is slow and not bug free on a less than perfect ICS. The last impression you want really is a phone that runs very smoothly and operates well. I think this alone will make many people very happy and satisfied as the last update they will receive for the arc and other 2011 phones. Is this too much to ask for? Is the decision and money not spent doing this worth the negativity spread by 2011 device owners that could potentially turn away customers? Don't leave customers with a bad impression of you.

I'm not going to dwell on that because clearly they have made their choice already but I surely will not be surprised when a similar excuse is made for the 2012 NXT phones not upgradable to whatever android comes out after Jellybean be it Key Lime Pie etc. This is not a very likeable trend. Yes, development takes time and things do not get done overnight but they get paid to do their job with deadlines unlike developers here that devote their free time to develop roms for the people. I'm not saying developing is easy because coding anything isn't, but if Sony wants to reach their 50 million sales goal next year as their goal they really need to pick it up on the software side to back up the phones they will release. I don't think anyone wants Sony become like LG as the company who never updates their phones, although LG has started to change their ways since they really want to compete with Samsung.

I do hope JB comes as K900 predicts for this year. All I want is a smooth
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Galaxen:
I'm afraid this means SXS won't get KLP 4.2. What Sony should do is to release all drivers and libs and what not so that developers can do what Sony can't. What's the use of not doing this?

Skickat från min LT26i via Tapatalk 2
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 'cooleagle':
Thread closed as it's a duplicate, please continue the discussion here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1829591

Thanks. :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Till-Kruspe:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/10/1...-2011-xperia-devices-will-not-get-jelly-bean/

Damn it SONY!...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] sandy7:
man....i hate sony for this
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Till-Kruspe:
If no JB for 2011 xperia...make an ICS update to fix all the remaining bugs...or give some of the look or feature of NXT to 2011 xperia...

Well...I still love SONY... :good: