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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beardymarrow:
Hi,

You need to then install gapps on top of the rom (unless you don't use any gapps?).

Did you format your partitions after changing hboot? What do you get in terms of sizes if you take a nandroid and then format all partitions?

On jelly hboot after installing Evervolv-turba-3.1.0p1-bravo.zip I get :-

mount point size free
system 250.0MiB 49.1MiB

and after installing nikez-lente-gapps-ev-jb-20120816.zip I get :-

mount point size free
system 250.0MiB 5.6MiB

so I think you need 250MB (or at least 245Mb) to install it all.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RuudM:
I think you're right! Probabley something in the format-procedure. Didn't notice the empty space because it looked like all was fine. Even GApps worked.

Something to watch in the future.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pro.gangster:
Minor Issues

Hi Nikez

I love your work and I use it as an everyday ROM

but I have some minor problems :

1- problem with battery drainage, hardly lasts one day with common usage

2- problem with app installation storage (does d2we works with it? i don't know anything about int2ext that everyone talk about here & there, I have Stock Hboot)

3- also having problem with WIFI, It doesn't work at all without installing WiFix, even after that, it's a little bit weird, if I go to Airplane mode, and I return to normal mode, it doesn't work till I reinstall the Wifix and reboot the phone

Thank you indeed.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dethrat:
Yey this ROM is out of pre-alpha and into alpha.

Check out the latest nightly way more stable.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paolo-red1:
New build is up

Wipe cache and dalvik-cache if you come from previous Evervolv kitkat.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !@ndre@!:
Have you got a chance log please?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paolo-red1:
this two commits: http://review.evervolv.com/#/c/9588/ http://review.evervolv.com/#/c/9585/ and others very minor from aosp
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rvolfonni:
I'm using 03.12
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Qizami:
Thanks. Finally I get rid of black squares in gmail (it was non usable for me!) and local news app. All OK now. (I didn't try previous nightly releases)

Does anyone have issue with Phone/Dialer app? When I start Phone app for first time (hold home, and swipe Phone window) , and then click on Dialer icon I get only blank rectangle at the bottom of screen, and after pressing BACK button and clicking on Dialer icon again, it shows up. I had same problem on Nikez's release, and onpaolo-red1's. Is that just me or general bug?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rvolfonni:
Great !!!

Now, with 05.12 : no more black squares.

I can now use Gmail again. :good:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kabir999:
Something strange happened with my phone today. I an on ev_bravo-4.0.0p1. My battery had died and I put it on the charge. After about a few mins I unplugged the charger and connected the phone to my computer via the usb cable to access the SD card. But as the battery was very low the phone died. After I rebooted, I noticed that the phone was acting like a new install and all the installed apps are gone. I have only 8 mb of internal storage now and can't connect to my google account. I can't even access my SD card via the cable now.

Can someone shed some light on what might have happened?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Qizami:
^ Check your SD card with card reader or other phone. It's look like card is dead or partition tables are screwed. And system can't mount /sd-ext partition. Try to reformat your card (make backup first) if your card is not dead, and make fat and sd-ext partitions again. Use GParted or 4EXT recovery to partition your SD card, do not use CWM for partition SD card!

You can also can try to format only /sd-ext partition, but I recommend to format complete card, and making partition from beginning. (This applies only if the card's not dead)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kabir999:
The thing is that the phone is able to read the content of my SD card such as photos and music stored in them. From storage in settings I am able to see my SD card an all. But the when I connect it with the computer the removable drive appears but I am not able to access it because when I click on it it just say insert a disk in the removable drive.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Emmes:
Look at your windows disk management ( RUN -> diskmgmt.msc ) and maybe you just have to give the fat32 partition a drive letter. Give it a try!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serrano:
Issue: Apps disappear after reboot when moved to SD

One more issue, apps moved to SD disappear after rebooting.

It happens with 4.0.0p1, 4.0.0p2, and build from latest Github Evervolv sources as of 2013-12-06 (pre-Kitkat 4.4.1 merge).

After moving an app to SD (sdcard, not sd-ext), the app works properly. But after rebooting, the app has disappeared.

Seems that when moving the app to SD, the app .asec file is moved to /mnt/secure/asec. A tmpfs is mounted on /mnt/secure, but there is no sdcard subfolder bind mounted on /mnt/secure/asec (I guess it should be sdcard/.android_secure) so, after rebooting, the app .asec file is lost.

The "lost" app still has its folder under /data/data, which prevents the app from being reinstalled.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willyvlad:
I installed 4.4Evervolv Kitkat(full wipe ,stock hboot) and I can not find terminal emulator and soft keys.Is normally?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paolo-red1:
yes. Download terminal emulator from market to install a2sd and if you want soft keys you can try xposed (search in xda)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LaidbackNikez:
I appreciate your enthusiasm.... But please stop posting unofficial builds here. It is just confusing.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paolo-red1:
lol, ok sorry. btw nighlties will resume in few days so there is no point that I continue
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schlork:
I had the same issue and reported here, but was advised to not flood the thread with such questions. So here again, just for reporting.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willyvlad:
i confirm it is working (a2sd),check partition alignment with ext4
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] konsuntier:
Where can one find the nightlies please? I looked around and couldn't find anything. Thanks.

Found it. It's dl.evervolv.com

Guess the latest nightly is "ev_bravo-nightly-2013.11.10-squished.zip" then, right?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Trukhin:
Tried ext3 and ext4, tried alignment = 4k. Doesn't work :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
How did you partition your sd-card? What did you use?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Trukhin:
30 minutes ago made the following steps, using gparted:

1. Delete all partitions from SD card (microSDHC SANDISK Ultra 16 ГБ, 30 Mb/s, Class 10, SDSDQUA-016G-U46A)

2. Make the fat32 primary partition (all available space, excluding 1024 Mb "from the right")

3. Make the ext4 primary partition using 1024 Mb from the previous step

4. Apply changes

5. Then copy our backup files to the FAT32 partition, including 4.0.0p2 and gapps for kk

6. Insert SD card in HTC Desire, boot

7. Reboot into recovery (Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4)

8. Wipe data/factory reset

9. Wipe cache partition

10. Advanced -> Wipe Dalvik Cache

11. Install zip from sdcard -> Choose zip from sdcard: install 4.0.0p2, then gapps for kk (successfully)

12. Reboot system now (command in recovery), boot

13. Apply language, Wi-Fi and Google settings

14. Open Google Play, install Android Terminal Emulator (by Jack Palevich), jackpal.androidterm

15. Open Android Terminal Emulator, make next commands:

su

Allow grants to Terminal

a2sd install

y

n

y (reboot)

16. After boot move Android Terminal Emulator to SD card, reboot

17. After boot Android Terminal Emulator has disappeared
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
Actually step 16 isn't necessary. Terminal Emulator, and all your apps will be moved to sd-ext automatically after you reboot. I don't know what you're using to move it to the sd-card, but don't.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Trukhin:
Settings -> Apps -> find Terminal, open it and click "Move on SD-card"
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
Again, don't do that. The a2sd script will move it automatically after a reboot.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pepie:
It didn't automaticly move Terimal by me but after all it only makes 800kb difference if you don't move it to your SD card.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
Yeah, because the a2sd script only moves data/app to sd-ext, leaving everything else on internal. Moving dalvik cache too would help a lot.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serrano:
Hi, I think we are talking about different issues. The issue I've reported happens when moving apps to SD via "Manage apps=>Move to SD card" (i.e. when moving part of the app to the FAT partition of your SD card, not to the ext#234# sd-ext partition).

As far as I've seen, a2sd works fine with 4.0.0p1 and 4.0.0p2. I've been using Nikez 4.0.0 pre-alpha builds since the first day he released them with a2sd (xdata mode, 1GB ext2 partition in a 32GB class 6 SD card) with no problems at all. Indeed, the issue I had was when trying to squeeze more space from my 1GB ext2 sd-ext partition, by moving some apps to SD card (FAT partition in sdcard). This usually works like a charm (with a potential small performance penalty that I can't notice, to be sincere), but with existing 4.0.0 builds there seems to be problem (maybe in the init scripts) as the moved app doesn't survive a reboot. I haven't been able to look at it yet. For the moment, I've grown my ext2 sd-ext partition from 1GB to 2GB with gparted, I have more space for installing apps, and everything looks fine.

BTW, It's a bit strange that your issue with mounts2sd was solved after changing the partition FS type from ext4 to ext3. My ext2-formatted partition is mounted using the ext4 FS (the ext4 kernel driver can also handle ext2 and ext3 file systems) in 4.0.0p2, so ext4 should be fully supported. Maybe mounts2sd tries to mount the sd-ext partition with ext3 explicitly. Anyway, you shouldn't have any problem with a2sd as included in Nikez builds.

---------- Post added at 10:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:47 PM ----------

Hi, I think he is experiencing the same issue I reported here Sometimes it can be useful to explicitly move some apps to SD (not to sd-ext, but to the FAT sdcard partition) even when using a2sd in xdata mode, if you run out of space in your sd-ext partition, but you still have plenty of it in your sdcard main partition and for any reason you don't want (or can't) increase the space of your sd-ext partition. In these cases, the .asec file is loop mounted from the FAT partition. In 4.0.0p1 and 4.0.0p2 this doesn't work anymore (used to work with a2sd on Gingerbread, ICS and Jelly Bean).

---------- Post added at 11:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:54 PM ----------

Be careful, that's a pretty old Jelly Bean nightly build. Evervolv has recently restructured their web site and "nightlies will return soon".

Besides that, Nikez builds may include patches don't merged yet in Evervolv's tree (and therefore not included in nightlies), even if nightlies have newer features/bugfixes. On the other hand, reporting issues related to nightlies may have a "colder" reception, as it's more difficult to determine whether the reported issues are related to the dev's builds or to new changes made in nightlies.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] konsuntier:
Thanks! It seems that I do not fully understand how things work. I thought several people maintain different builds of evervolv for different devices and that the evervolv nightlies for the Desire are "done" by nikez?

So you are saying that I should wait for nikez to post a new build on his own page, right?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serrano:
IMHO, the short answer is yes :)

AFAIK there is a centralized Evervolv set of repositories at Github. These repositories contain Evervolv full sources, including some device-specific source trees. Proposed changes go through a process of review and approval before landing in Evervolv git repositories, from which builds used to be compiled through an automated build process and made available for public download at their website on a daily (nightly) basis. From time to time (I guess corresponding to certain project milestones), some builds are released as release builds instead of nightly builds. Probably, these nightlies will be back soon, and available here: http://www.evervolv.com/devices/bravo.

Nikez, as an Evervolv team member, develops and submits proposed change sets to Evervolv. AFAIK (this is just my observer opinion) he maintains the bravo (HTC Desire) and macto (HTC Sensation) related source trees (including low level Linux kernel stuff), but he also contributes changes to other modules and reviews other team members changes. Nikez also releases Evervolv milestones (release builds which may include his own changes) at his own website (where I guess you also would be welcome to click the ads ;)), and provides support and expects development-related feedback from advanced users for his builds in the developer thread related to this General Q&A thread.

So, to sum it up (and I insist, this is just my opinion, the recommended approach is always to read at least the first post of these threads and to follow the rules):

If you want to be living on the edge and don't mind being on your own, use nightlies at your own will when they are available, or make your own builds from sources (and learn in the process).

If you want to ask any general (e.g. user-related ) questions related to Evervolv 's builds in this thread, you should use Nikez' builds (taking into account that are released as unstable pre-alpha stuff), as he has created the thread with such purpose, as can be read in the first post of this thread:

If you want to contribute with development-related feedback in this thread, use Nikez builds and try to stick to the topic avoiding general questions, and non-build specific development questions (e.g. how to get a logcat).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LaidbackNikez:
More or less spot-on. Thank you.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schlork:
Dear Serrano, many thanks for this claryfiing explanation. BTW as much as I honor Nikez work, he should describe in his first thread here what he is awaiting from the participants, may this would have avoided >400 pages of waste. ;)

Coming back to the topic.

Yes and No, as I was not knowing that "Manage apps=>Move to SD card" is supposed to move to Fat instead of Ext4. So when I executed "Manage apps=>Move to SD card" and after that couldn't find anything on ext4, I assumed that a2sd is not working.

You and abaaaabbbb63 clarified that now for me ==> many thanks.

Can I summarize in this way:

a2sd handles ext4 storage as kind of internal RAM based on external SD-card and moves apps automatically==> this is working?

"Manage apps=>Move to SD card" is what it says, it moves apps to FAT of external SD-card==> this is not working?

yes it is working with ext3, but it sounds like a perfekt, possible explanation that may "old" mounts2SD is only working with ext3.

==> With the next build, I will try a2sd again, for now I will leave as it is, as it works close to perfect.

Some minor things, I identified:

- Wifi turns automatically off, when I leave house, but turns not on again, when I come home.

- The Bluetooth symbol faded in notification bar, after I left car to which it was connected. Does that mean BT is on standby ==> no or less battery consumption and so therefore no need to switch off anymore?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serrano:
Take into account that development threads have an inherent development-orientation (that's explained somewhere in the XDA forums FAQ, IIRW). Anyway, the purpose of that dev thread has been stressed too many times already along its live (anyway, it's clear you were trying to report an issue, don't take it too seriously). And overall, I think those 400 pages were more or less worth it :)

Coming back to the topic.

Right. a2sd mounts your sd-ext as part as your internal storage memory. Move to SD card moves to FAT part of applications which are designed to allow to be moved (others can be forced via software like Titanium backup, with the risk that some features which require to be on the main storage, such as widgets, will not work), no matter if they are on real internal storage or in sd-ext directories taking over internal storage.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dimmy1405:
which version of android is the version that is at evervolv website, build from 2013.12.10....?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serrano:
4.4.1. But Google has just released 4.4.2 for further bugfixing 4.4.1 (no sources yet).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dimmy1405:
thanks, but I still dont understand the differences about the ROMs that are offered from the EVERVOLV website and ROMs that are offered from Nikez website...?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serrano:
AFAIK:

Evervolv's web site nightly builds: bleeding edge, built in an automated way every night from latest Evervolv's sources (including approved contributions by Nikez). Supported* neither in this thread nor in Nikez' development thread. Usually they get successfully built every night, but occasionally they may not even build due to compiling errors.

Nikez release builds: more stable releases built by Nikez, with a longer release cycle (similar to release builds found in Evervolv's web site for other phones) but officially still of pre-alpha quality. May include some patches not present in nightly builds (e.g. bluetooth and wifi tethering fixes that Nikez was evaluating or some cherry-picked patches Nikez may have considered appropriate) or maybe not. Supported in this thread and in Nikez' development thread.

*Supported: you may generally discuss about them in this thread, or give development-related feedback (e.g. issues with associated logs) in the development thread.

BTW... we shouldn't be talking that much about nightly builds on this thread! My fault! :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stathvag:
After updating to latest nightly build, gapps are not working. I can add gmail account but no sync and there is no playstore. I installed Nikez 4.4 Gapps Core on previous version and everything was working perfect. Now with the same zip only Google settings shortcut created. Only me experienced that problem? Btw many many thanks to Nikez for that great rom in any case!!!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willyvlad:
I have the same problem Core Gapps is not working on the latest nightly build
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serrano:
Your core gapps were not completely flashed due to lack of space. There is not enough space in the system partition for KitKat and core gapps since Android 4.4.1 was merged several days ago.

You will have to delete resources in your system partition before flashing core gapps (e.g. ringtones, notifications, applications such as Home.apk and all wallpaper-related apks, pico tts speech synthesis files for languages you don't need, etc.). The core gapps you can find here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2012857 are slightly smaller and newer, but you will have to delete resources anyway (you can use Total Commander for that).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schlork:
Why don't you use slim gapps? Only 8MB
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serrano:
To be sincere, I checked those slim gapps and compared them with 12-6_GApps_Core_4.4.1_signed.zip. I found several things missing which I guess are not necessary and had been properly left out, but it was the absence of GmsCore.apk (Google Play Services) what stopped me from using them, as I didn't know whether GmsCore.apk must be included in an initial core gapps setup or not.

I mean, when you are flashing your new ROM without a full wipe, probably you already have a newer Google Play Services in /data, as precisely this package gets upgraded in the background without any user notification. But when flashing a new ROM after a full wipe, I don't know if Google Play is enough to download Google Play Services. Also 12-6_GApps_Core_4.4.1_signed.zip is more recent and includes 4.4.1 updated stuff.

So probably is fine to use slim gapps after a full wipe. I just wasn't sure :)

Please, could you confirm that?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paolo-red1:
more system space

So for those interested I made a flashable zip that frees up space. It deletes tts, live wallpapers and two oriental fonts.

It flashes low_notification_fix app that with right permissions works. No more low sound after a call.

It flashes also few alarms/ringtones that I like but you can delete those in the zip if you don't want.

In attachment Email-kk441 from texasice (only email apk, if you want email+ exchange here)

I made it beacuse it is very usefull for automated twrp flashing after a nighlty download.

So you can flash: nighlty rom + bloatkill + Email-kk + gapps

You can use this to preserv 250 /system hboot or you can use a bigger hboot, like 260 or more at the expense of data partition.

View attachment bloatkill.zip

View attachment Email-kk441-2013-12-07-signed.zip
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] waterbender19:
I am not sure if this is where I should post this problem, but well here goes. I tried installing the P2 build but it always throws out a Warning that it could not find the file_contexts file. Even though checking the zipped file it is there. Anyone experienced this problem before?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jukyO:
Redownload file. If it does not work, change recovery to TWRP or 4ext.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schlork:
At least I think, I can confirm. I use Desire as second phone, minimum needed apps equiped, no games, no other fun stuff.

In this low equiped condition it works fantastic with slim gapps.

If there is anything I can test additionally, please feel free to tell me.

BTW, I always do a full wipe.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] texasice:
Next nightlies (12/13) will have build size fixed. Forgot to install pngcrush on new server, so the squished packages were just regular.... oops. expect ~10mb savings installed.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willyvlad:
now working ,this helps me a lot -SLIM FACTORY V4.0
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keronja:
I flashed with the last version, installed skype, clicked on the icon to start it and since then I have a black screen and now I can't start my phone. :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !@ndre@!:
I've flashed the last update by paolo-red1.

Now I see in Evervolv updater app that there are several nightly build.

If I update the ROM have I to reinstall also gapps and a2sd?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paolo-red1:
You can flash latest nighlty and you will have 9-10 more megabytes in /system.

I use them adding adaway, xda app and toptnp in my bloatkill, so it flashes them in /system/app.

Then I suggest using 12-6 gapps, beacuse 12-11 have fc's.

So in EvUpdater or recovery wipe dalvik-cache and cache and flash rom+gapps+whatever you want.

If you want aosp email remember to flash email zip.

edit: oh and you don't have to re-install a2sd. It will upgrade at the boot automatically, so the boot will take a long more.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keronja:
update: I can turn it on, the buttons flash but nothing is happening on the screen, it is still black...the computer seems to recognize the phone (I hear the connect sound in Windows).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2012katas:
pure peformance

anyone got pure performance/its tweaks working on kitkat..........i got bricked twice :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willyvlad:
Antutu - 3378 with dalvik cache and 3718 with ART (4ext on sd class 4) ,my personal opinion is that it runs better than GB :cool: