yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nook Color Android Development] jekagan:
Swype is a PIG

If any of you are using the Swype beta, I've found that it's a major drag on system performance, even when the input panel is not open. It worked splendidly for me on the MiRaGe 7.2 build, but has been horrible on CM10. The moment I switched back to using the default Android keyboard, the Nook was noticeably snappier in nearly every respect. I might be imagining things, so I'm curious if anybody else has had a similar experience.

Anyway, just a heads up to all you folks, FWIW. I'd personally love to be able to use Swype, but not at the expense of making the rest of the experience unbearable. Maybe I just need to sit tight and wait for the JB 4.2 keyboard.
[Nook Color Android Development] DanAdamKOF:
I just did this. I can't input an underscore in the terminal emulator for some reason, but I got all the info nonetheless. Also, this is the only line I saw involving the touchscreen: "input: cyttsp-i2c as /devices/platform/omap/omap_i2c.2/i2c-2/2-0022/input/input2" so I put down cyttsp. I noted it in the survey but I haven't had my nook plugged in while on the 12/16 nightly.

For the record I filled in the survey while on the 12/15 nightly.

Did this by booting into cwm recovery and choosing to install zip. Restarted, disabled wifi, and let it sit. As soon as the screen turned itself off, I pressed Power, and it came back on. I turned wifi back on and let it sit again until the screen turned on. Clicked power, and it came back. Let it sit for around 5 minutes, clicked power, and it came back on.
[Nook Color Android Development] bluepen61:
I have 12/17 nightlie and 1 sod, after clean install and download of Titanium Backup app (app only). None since. Installed or restored all my apps except Swift key 3 Tablet and Nova Launcher. Have not set e-mail though Google calendar works through Touch Calendar app.
[Nook Color Android Development] khaytsus:
This has either fixed or greatly improved things for me on my NC, I've had 10 suspend cycles on both AC and off AC and no SOD so far. I will continue to try it off and on and see if it continues to behave this way.

EDIT1: Almost an hour later, 30+ suspend cycles, leaving it for 15+ minutes at a time, no SOD. :D

EDIT 2: Four hours later, 100+ suspend cycles, disabled Green Power and letting wifi suspend on its own.. No SOD :D :D
[Nook Color Android Development] Lakland:
HI Devs!! I have the 12-16 nightly. What I am having now is that the nook stays awake all most of the time. Yesterday night I was on 30% battery. In the morning the Nook was with no battery charge.

Any thoughts or recommendation from other users experiencing this issue?
[Nook Color Android Development] trsanning:
I have had this same issue since upgrading to cm10 as well. I tried several different cards and they all function the same way. I get the non-alpha garbage. If I format the card on PC then copy a zip to SD using PC I can use that to upgrade but within hours the card is unreadable to certain apps and I see the garbage text again. I have tried formatting with cwm and with twrp and nothing works. I am glad I am not the only one having this issue. I thought it was something I was doing.
[Nook Color Android Development] Lakland:
Also I am installed CM10 on the EMMC :D, not SD card
[Nook Color Android Development] WoodmanMN:
I installed 1217 over 1211 that I had backed up. Same procedure I used to flash 1216 (I go back to cm7.2 if I'm not happy with performance). So far, no SoD since last night. Stock install, no battery life apps, no task killers, WiFi sleep at 5 minutes. Min 300, max 1000, pretty much box stock cm 10.

I will try removing Swype to see if performance improves. Overall, not bad though.
[Nook Color Android Development] duane1221:
Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I also booted into cwm and did install zip. after it was installed, rebooted, but it is stuck on the bootloader screen with "Loading..." just sits there. I have done it twice with the same result. Flashed it over 1216 nightly.:confused:

UPDATE: I was successful in flashing the new kernel, no SOD's after about 5 sleeps and wake ups so far :D
[Nook Color Android Development] lollyjay:
My similar problem went away by using a sandisk class 4.

QI0CM787SV, 12/11/2010

ES1.2, cyttsp

PA Encore 2.99 16DEC2012 nightly
[Nook Color Android Development] deesto-xda:
Does this build require a SanDisk brand card?
[Nook Color Android Development] Mr-Glass:
Has anyone else noticed how slow moving files from Laptop/PC to NC sdcard is - I noticed this all the way from the Alpha but never mentioned it.. I just moved 145 mb of books over and it took about 4 minutes.. I have two NC on this rom and both are the same way. The card speed does not seem to make a difference - One NC has a 16gb class 6 and mine has a 32gb class 10 - Not a huge deal - just worth noting for me..
[Nook Color Android Development] lollyjay:
No, but many have had better performance. Search other posts on this thread.

QI0CM787SV, 12/11/2010

ES1.2, cyttsp

PA Encore 2.99 16DEC2012 nightly
[Nook Color Android Development] deesto-xda:
Right. But your other post seems to indicate the brand made a difference in alleviating actual problems:
[Nook Color Android Development] ibilln:
Leapinlar apparently sleeps from time to time, so... Since early in XDA development of software for the

Nook Color

. the NC has been known to be unreliable using any

SD card

other than

Sandisk

Class 4

.

You might say to yourself, well, Sandisk Class 6 or 10 has got to be even better! Or, that some other brand costing more would be better! You would be, as others here are, frustrated in those assumptions.
[Nook Color Android Development] adverbius:
Some thoughts on the theory regarding uSD types and superiority of SanDisk HERE
[Nook Color Android Development] deesto-xda:
Thanks. Well that stinks: these days class 10s are cheaper than class 4s. I wish I'd known this a month or so ago: could have picked up a 16 GB class 4 card for just $6 USD on sale! I'll keep looking for a deal.

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That's more than theory: those are benchmarks! ;) So it seems the difference must be with random I/O, where the SanDisk cards really seem to shine.
[Nook Color Android Development] adverbius:
If you're coming from CM7, then yeah. I saw a huge difference between native USB mode and default MTP on Android 4.0+. You can turn USB transfer mode on, though, in Settings through the menu in the Storage section. Helps a bit with speed of transfer, but can take extra time to connect.
[Nook Color Android Development] Mr-Glass:
Yeah it is the difference from CM7 I was seeing - I just flashed a CM7 backup and it was probably two times faster - I have always used Mass storage - I sure will live with it for the benefits of CM10
[Nook Color Android Development] duane1221:
I flashed the attached ZIP over the 12 18 nightly this morning. Unfortunately I still got SOD's after 5 minutes of sleep or so. I have tried a number of performance parms, interactive 300 - 1000 zRam disabled gave the SOD also. I know this is working better for other users so I am open to any suggestions as well.

Thanks

Here is the dmesg http://pastebin.com/8v9wJeVs
[Nook Color Android Development] leapinlar:
Generally the benchmarks say SanDisk class 4 are the best, but other brands and classes do work. I have found that the new SanDisk Ultra Class 10 works very well too. Usually the recommendations are for running the ROM off SD, but now I think CM10 kind of likes those for just media cards too. It is much more sensitive to SD card behavior than other CM versions were. If it does not like the card, it mounts it read only.

Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD
[Nook Color Android Development] grayfoxmg1:
I've been using a Samsung Ultra Class 10 for a little over 2 months (since it was a special on Laalo), and thus far CM10, and the current port of PA, haven't had a problem with it. Though I am running my ROM off EMMC.
[Nook Color Android Development] samcoinc:
I have been running the latest test from steve (cm-10-encore-kernel-v3.0.8-4066-g845dfa4.zip ) and have been running all day without sod - even at 1.1ghz

Yay? (ES1.1) I was getting sod's with the 12/16 and later nightlies (skunkworks)

:)

sam
[Nook Color Android Development] davidr415:
The issue has never been poor performance using it as storage. Only an inability to stand up to the rigors of using it for the ROM location and all the many short reads and writes necessitated by that type of use.
[Nook Color Android Development] grayfoxmg1:
ah okay, well when I get home I'll load up CM10 on it and see how it handles(I'm currently running PA off my EMMC)
[Nook Color Android Development] leapinlar:
Yes that is generally true, except now CM10 on emmc seems to want a stable SD also, even if just used for media. So I think the SD recommendations apply to it too.
[Nook Color Android Development] pdahiker:
I have been running leapinlar's experimental kernal dirty installed over the 12-15 nightly for a couple of days, and no SOD's and overall much better performance, except with Chrome browser, which is sluggish for about 3 minutes and then eventually comes around.

I completed the survey, my current setup is:

Min/Max CPU - 300/1000

CPU Ondemand

I/O Scheduler CFQ

zRAM disabled

16 bit transp = On

Surface Improvement = Default

WiFi - Off during sleep

Launcher = Apex

I'll run with this for a while before updating. Great job on this ROM, it runs pretty darned well - maybe some life left in the old Nook Color yet.
[Nook Color Android Development] Dave08:
Steven676, I completed the survey. Most recently I was having SODs on 1205, 1210, 1215, now 1216. I don't know why this is, but if I update by Cyandelta I will start having SODs almost immediately. If download the entire new rom and install it over my existing one, wiping cache and dalvik and fixing permissions then I usually don't have any SODs for a day or two. (I've also tried doing factory resets, with no difference in the outcome.) Will try the new kernel now, since I have an ES1.1 device
[Nook Color Android Development] unicyclingEMT:
No. I'm using a Samsung card with no problem. I think the issue is that not all cards are created equal. And SanDisk tends to make faster and better quality cards. I have a bunch of cards and my SanDisk class 4 cards are faster than a lot of other class 10 cards.

Good luck
[Nook Color Android Development] grayfoxmg1:
So did load this up on my Samsung Class 10, and it seems to run fine. However when I later loaded it up on my Class 10 Ultra Sandisk I noticed an increase in speed and performance. So if you were to ask for my advice(in which case you should ask someone who knows more than I do), I think most Class 10 SD cards will work for this, but you won't get the full experience until you go Sandisk.
[Nook Color Android Development] tonestertm:
This statement is partly true. If you look back at the history, you'll see that early Class 10 cards were generally very poor performers. It seems that newer ones as a Class do better (at least certain Samsung and Sandisk), but we don't really have enough data points yet. (I've been running off a Sandisk Class 6 for over a year.)

At any rate, this has probably been enough SD card discussion for this thread; It's all been covered at great length elsewhere.

Use a card with good 4k (QD=32) Random Write speeds, determined by Crystal Disk Mark and an external (USB) reader. See this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1005633

if you don't understand any of that sentence, or Leapinlar's useful links here, (especially B12)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1621301

and here,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1941858

Now, back to our regularly scheduled thread... please? :fingers-crossed:
[Nook Color Android Development] wastemantej:
Hi everyone,

I flashed build 12/16 on mc (16 gb class 4). And liked it very much keeping aside the fact that browsing speed (Maybe improved on future releases :fingers-crossed:)

I haven't got sod's of any kind :)

And the sad thing is I am unable to use bluetooth. Sometimes it is discoverable, sometimes doesn't however unable to send or recieve files.:(

And regarding battery drain it has come down from 97% to 89% about in 8 hrs of standby.

That's it for now.

Excuse my english :silly:
[Nook Color Android Development] Dave08:
SOD overnight on 1217 kernel. WiFi off before the NC went to sleep. About 25% of battery used overnight, due to SOD.
[Nook Color Android Development] eghill1125:
Figure I'd chime in. I believe I am currently running 12/17 nightly over top the unofficial build from earlier (Eyeballers??)

I am getting SOD's with this and I have a ES1.2 Nook. Not sure if it is the old traditional SOD though. I do not seem to lose a ton of battery like I used to way back when, but it is still SOD and loses battery. This is with the WiFi set never when charged or whatever that option is and 15 minutes.

With the WiFi off completely and not used, I am not seeing the SOD's. Not yet anyways. Would be nice to have the WiFi on when I need it though.

Other than that, the build is real nice and I applaud those who have done this. Hard to imagine we would have this capability on our Nooks, but you guys do some real amazing work.
[Nook Color Android Development] deesto-xda:
Still no SODs here, but I had to give up on my current SD card, which was just getting thrashed. I re-formatted another card, let CWM recovery re-format and partition it, and am now having no permissions/write/garbage file issues on the card with this ROM. I hope the new card (which is also _not_ a SanDisk; I just don't have one at the moment) doesn't end up the same way. Consequently, I re-formatted the other SD card and am using it in another device, with no problems at all thus far.
[Nook Color Android Development] steven676:
To be perfectly clear, is this the kernel from the 12/17 nightly, or the special v3.0.8-4066-g845dfa4 that I posted?
[Nook Color Android Development] pdahiker:
I did a clean install (full reset) of the latest nightly - 12-19 - and WOW, this one is much better! I haven't been able to find a single issue, speed seems great and so far nary a sign of an S.O.D. I left all settings at default and performance so far rivals CM 7.2.

I did format my SD card, as well, and did a Titanium app and data restore. with no issues there.

Awesome job on this one! I would recommend those who have had issues to try this latest build.
[Nook Color Android Development] Lakland:
Same here i just installed and wow!!!! Also the keyboard is fast. Thanks dev we are there,
[Nook Color Android Development] WoodmanMN:
+1 on 1219. Running stock speeds and performance settings and it's downright snappy. Only lag was while restoring apps from Google's backup. I also did a clean install. Good job devs!
[Nook Color Android Development] les02jen17:
Pretty interesting feedbacks, considering that based on the changelog here (http://changelog.bbqdroid.org/#encore/cm10/1355902730) nothing's been changed. Does that mean that there could be changes that aren't being added in the changelog? :confused: But what the heck, I'll go on ahead and flash it and see it for myself. :laugh:
[Nook Color Android Development] trsanning:
I just want to make one more comment on the sdcard topic. I went out and picked up a 16gb class 4 sandisk and it did resolve my issues I was having with the card mounting read only.
[Nook Color Android Development] WoodmanMN:
I don't know if anything is different on 1219 from 1218 or not, I just decided to do a fresh backup of 7.2 to have an out, did factory reset, flashed 1219, gapps 1011, did another full wipe, and fixed permissions. Been running very well with only minor lag when downloading my apps and no SoD so far. Much better experience than I've had before.
[Nook Color Android Development] pdahiker:
Agreed. I was coming from 1215 and the experimental kernal, so wanted to do testing with the latest and greatest. Wasn't expecting the level of performance that I am seeing. Most impressive improvement is in web browsing on three different browsers - stock, Chrome, and xScope - all load pages better than I have experienced in browsers in 7.2.

By the way, xScope is a great lightweight browser that handles video very well - and in my testing yesterday with embedded H.264 video files, the playback, fast forward and loading performance was much better on the Nook Color than I have ever seen.

It would be nice to see the change logs, however, to see what brought about this significant improvement, but not a huge deal for me.
[Nook Color Android Development] Kaptinkrunk:
is there something wrong with the nighlys i cant download the last 3?

i am unable to download the latest 3 forsure no matter computer or nook???

and it wont let me download from goo at all on the nook
[Nook Color Android Development] dombeef:
Try again, I had the same problem this morning, and i am installing the update right now, there was probably a problem with the servers, but it is working now.
[Nook Color Android Development] hwong96:
I just updated with cmupdate to the latest nightly (20121220).
[Nook Color Android Development] Lakland:
I am running 1219 nightly. A obervation on nook app. I open the app and it sync with BN servers. But when i open a book, it gets stuck for ever in the loading circle. The book do not load. The rest of the apps are running excellent.
[Nook Color Android Development] leapinlar:
I don't have any problems with the Nook app on this build. But that may be because I run an older version (3.1.0.19) of the Nook app because the magazines do not load right in the newest version. Look a few posts back and I list a link to get the older version.

Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD
[Nook Color Android Development] pdahiker:
I downloaded the latest version of the Nook App from the market and downloaded one of my books. It took about 5 minutes for it to open (I almost gave up), but it did finally open. I think this may be due more to the crapiness of the Nook app and not this ROM. This is why long ago I stopped using it.
[Nook Color Android Development] lollyjay:
I'm also on newest version of Nook app. Running PA2.99. Nook app loads in 5 sec and book loads in 6 sec. Must be another problem. We will have to find out eventually...

QI0CM787SV, 12/11/2010

ES1.2, cyttsp

PA Encore 2.99 16DEC2012 nightly
[Nook Color Android Development] bluepen61:
Didn't find the post, a simple google found it. And it does work smoother and better in some ways. Thanks again.
[Nook Color Android Development] J-ROCK:
Installed the latest nightly and once again after installing the Google plus app and letting it sit there , I got a SOD.
[Nook Color Android Development] webyrd:
Ran the "unofficial" nightly with no significant problems or SOD's, then ran the 12/16 nightly with no significant problems or SOD's until the evening of 12/18. The night of 12/18, I put the NC to sleep with about 75% battery remaining, after work the next day, the NC would not wake, held power button for about 30 seconds expecting an SOD, still nothing, attached charger and got the dead battery icon, never used this much battery sleeping before. Checked about 15 minutes later, NC had booted and showed 12% battery, used for about an hour, then did other things for a while, NC would not wake, had to hold power button 15 seconds to re-boot, never had an SOD while charging before, and NC was definitely charging the entire time same outlet as a clock that did not reset, NC battery level up to 75%. Had second SOD while charging, and then constant SOD's if NC sat for more than a few minutes thereafter, turned NC off on the night of 12/19 and did not get back to it until this evening, turned on and let sit for 15 minutes, SOD. Booted recovery, wiped data and cache, flashed 12/20 nightly plus GAPPS and Picassa, had SOD both times I left it sit for more than 10 minutes, just flashed cm-10-encore-kernel-v3.0.8-4066-g845dfa4.zip - let sleep 30 minutes, no SOD - will report back after overnight sleep.

I have been using the latest Nook app (currently 3.3.026.ANDTBL) with no problems on any of the builds.

MSBN QI0CM9PJ23L

DATE 12/25/2010

CODE OMAP3630 ES1.1

CYTTSP

OMAP3ISP REVISION 15.0
[Nook Color Android Development] WoodmanMN:
Wipe cache on nook app, should resync your books and work OK. Mine loaded in seconds, but I've had this issue before.

edit

Rebooted, getting SoD issues now. Fixed permissions, set WiFi to never keep itself on during sleep. Also noticed the WiFi region code defaults to Europe, and doesn't keep the change when U.S. is selected. Not sure if it relates to the SoD issue, but worth investigation.
[Nook Color Android Development] Lakland:
that does not work for me. I am installing 3.1.0.19 to see if it change for good

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It work, but this one do not have off line dictionaries :( I give up, Nook App latest version do not work on my nook :(
[Nook Color Android Development] bluepen61:
Nightlie, 12/17/12, wiped NC, plus \System, dual boot emmc, B&N alternate partition, CM10 12/17/12 on primary partition; 'shared' data on Sandisk 16 gb uSD card. @1100 set on boot, WiFi always on, Ondemand CPU governor, zRam Disabled (dot), purging of assets and samdpage merging unchecked, 16 bit trans unchecked, Unknown sources (in Security) checked, Android debugging (in Developer options) checked.

Ok, what a difference this is from all the other ump-teen beta's and nightlies I have previously dealt with! I have been struggling with lag for soo long, and disappointed with the battery charge life.

Because of intolerable lag on previous versions, I wanted to track down the problem. I did not setup Mail app, nor install Nova or SwiftKey 3 Tablet right away. I was trying to track down the app source, if any. After installing my regular apps and using them, the lag was minimal. Then I got brave and added Nova, work the NC for a while and later SwiftKey. No appreciable gain in lag. I assumed it was then Mail app causing the lag. To test, I set it up, gmail and my two Imap accts. No appreciable lag. Ha, now watching Tomb Raider! Thinking the lag may have been caused by my wallpaper, so I added, using QuickPic an image of #1 and #2 position AMLS cars on final approach to the checkered flag @RoadAmerica as wallpaper in Nova. Again no appreciable lag. I like the up-to-date Nook app, but the older version (3.1.0.19) works a little better.

Among apps installed and used: Titanium Backup, QuickPic, Opera Browser, Touch Calendar, Universalis, Nook (older and new ver.), Shopping List,TweetDeck, Note Everything Pro, Aldiko, Document to Go Pro, Dolphin Browser, F18 Carrier Landing, Micro CPU Monitor, Battery Solo Widget, Rhapsody, Quickoffice, PocketCloud Pro, SQLite Editor, Stopwatch & Timer, WiFiFile Explorer, ti5x, YouTube, sda, WordPerfect Viewer, Missal, Mahjongg Builder, MyPOD (Unlock), Olive Tree Bible Study.

The battery charge is greatly improved too.

Only one suggestion for improvement, I can enter CWM recovery (3.2.0.1) from the shutdown menu but not from the Boot menu. My NC is set as a dual boot on emmc issue I believe, since upgrading to the current version of CWM prevents me from booting into B&N in the alternate emmc partition. Both OS's are on emmc.

I don't believe I am typing this but this is quite stunning. :cool: I can now stop my movie, check email, and then return to the movie, where I left off. The lag is bearable.

Previously did the survey, and my NC version data is in my signature.

Thank you to all the devs for the work you have done to achieve to this level.