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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quarlow:
In summary, my point about types of speculations in this forum holds true.

I found all the same articles too, not a single one confirms its att, you are just taking others' speculations as fact.

I searched on xda, Google, with all sorts of terms for over an hour. All I could find is speculation on the same vague HTC statement all over the place. I asked a few times for sources of evidence that isn't just more speculation.

As I said, AT&T is probably HTCs biggest customer, and the One X probably the biggest seller. So maybe HTC is trying to mitigate their biggest single source of returns.

Cost for device returns would probably be worked out to a per subscriber cost. AT&T has the same cost for any phone return, dumb phone up to smartphone. They all need to be shipped, and checked. Can someone provide non-speculative proof that a phone that is easy to flash like a Samsung phone has a higher user-caused brick rate? I would expect them to have a lower brick rate because of how simple they are to flash back to stock, and I found plenty other speculative (no actual evidence either way) articles agreeing, when I was looking for who wants the BL locked.

I was all for AT&T hate when throttling was new. But I have this weird need for something more than speculation. Especially when that speculation doesn't all add up to me (mainly Samsung selling 10+ times the devices unlocked, more than a year (almost 2) after others started locking bootloaders).

...

But ... Wait .... What is this? ... I have seen the light ... HTC - perfect, AT&T - bad. Am I cured?

Sent from my HOCKS
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WookieFan:
LOL, I am SO not saying that (last addendum). Just don't have much proof / substance for HTC insisting on locking their own bootloaders. But I am happy to accept that as fact if anyone can find a trusted publisher to even suggest that.

So yes, speculation compounding speculation.

I wish I had the data to present, but obviously I don't.

Another thing to consider is that Samsung has far greater leverage with AT&T than HTC does. Samsung can pretty much write their own check and they still lock bootloaders for premier devices (as far as I know, excluding Nexii).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
You mad?

I don't see why it matters who's at fault here. Fact is, we are where we are.

How about HTC=bad and ATT=bad?

Please cite where ATT is HTC's largest customer and where the HOX is their best selling device. I seriously doubt it's accurate. You do know there are other countries than the USA in the world? China happens to be a pretty big market, in case you haven't heard. And there's another country called India. Despite what you may think, people over there have phones, too...

Clearly letters from ATT stating the effect of "we don't allow unlocking bootloaders" and letters from HTC stating "we are at the mercy of the carriers sometimes" isn't enough.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quarlow:
Actually I'm mostly over it. Not really mad, just wanting some real information. I'm tired of compounded speculations, that everyone calls facts. I will freely admit that my speculations are wrong, if there exists reliable evidence to support that. I just cannot find any.

I said several times I was speculating about AT&T being HTC's biggest customer. I would speculate Huawei dominating China with pantech and zte. With the number of people in china and India, if AT&T wasn't their biggest customer wouldn't they be doing better financially? Not too sure about India, other than people on xda saying how hard it is to get US phones there (purely anecdotal repeated observation).

I can get behind there being enough blame to spread around. But, that's not the sentiment of the rest of this thread. Not even close.

And I have yet to see any of those letters you keep mentioning. I would like to see them, even if it is just first level tech support speculating.

FWIW I got my phone with 1.85 installed, and I unlocked my bootloader.

I am out of motivation to keep trying to argue. Everyone had their mind made up before entering this thread (yes, I will admit, even me), and a speculation contest won't move this thread any further, so here ends mine.

Sent from my HOCKS
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] c5satellite2:
Blame lies with ATT. They are HTC's customer. Most likely reason is security. ATT has a lot of corporate and government accounts that want secure phones and are not allowing rooted phones on their networks(more and more everyday). RIAA, Hollywood, and paid content providers who are in bed with the carriers also want DRM secure phones and the carriers make money on their bundled software that they don't want us to be able to remove.

The biggest reason may be that carriers like ATT are going to become essentially banks/credit card companies with their secure payment systems using NFC. Cell phones will become credit cards and ATT will have huge amounts of cash flow that will need to be secure.

We will be seeing a lot more of this in the near future from all manufacturers. Writing is on the wall. Sad. Always about money and control.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SkuzeeII:
I agree with OP, I went with the One X because HTC was promising a single line of phones that they would support throughout the year. Now I'm sitting here with my HOX feeling feeble while everyone else is getting hyped for the Butterfly and HOX+. Also the lack of root capabilities, while AT&T's fault is still frustrating and if HTC had any pull on AT&T they could probably force them to take it off. I don't know if I'll stick with Android for my next phone, but i'm almost determined to stay away from HTC because of everything that's happened.

I know it's "par for the course" for you phone to be obsoleted in 6 months, but the thing is HTC specifically said they wouldn't be doing that. Then they went ahead and released new flagships anyways.

That's not even to say that it's a bad device, other than the smallish battery and current inability to root i love my HOX, but as a company HTC has pissed me off.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Badger2point0:
Oh man, this is exactly how I feel and you just summed it up better than I ever could. I had moved away from HTC originally but came back with the One line of phones for that (presumed) promise of software updates and a more predictable yearly hardware refresh cycle. Yet here we are again with HTC, who instead of releasing a simple software update have created an entirely new phone with the most minor of upgrades just to house that software update, they haven't changed a bit. Personally I don't know why they stick with this business model, it seems to me that this way of operating just pisses money away, not to mention the loss of repeat customers.

If they ever do move to a proper hardware refresh cycle I'm sure I could be lured back in but for now this One XL (an awesome phone btw) will most likely be my last HTC device.

Here's to hoping for a future full of awesome Nexus devices.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slimslim:
Lol and lol.

I hope HTC will release a device every 2 years when I (ME and MYSELF) eligible for another upgrade, so in this way I won't feel hurt deep down inside. Forget about the others that are due to upgrade in the next 6 months or 1 year, they'll have to buy the same device (a year old by now), but again, HTC will keep ME as a loyal customer.

Oh, it doesn't work this way? Damn then, screw HTC, I'm sick of their practices, I'll think twice before buying an HTC next time, I'll go for Samsung, they never do this to their loyal customers... Oh, I forgot the cheap feel and the crappy samoled that made me choose the HOX in the first place. Nevermind, LG then! Mmm... Maybe not, Motorola! Yes! And I'll go to Verizon then cause there's no Moto decent device for ATT, screw my unlimited da... Damn! Can't decide yet, I'll get a Nexus!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Badger2point0:
Ummm... Okay? Not sure why you seem to have taken personal offense but just for the record neither of us said anything about a two year release schedule. Releasing a flagship once a year is a very good practice as proven by Samsung and Apple, it provides a reliable structure for customers to plan future purchases instead of the random surprises that HTC is currently throwing around.

Also not sure where you're getting the whole selfish vibe from. Are you suggesting that asking a company to support the millions of customers who purchased a device under the impression that it would be supported is greedy? If so I'd have to disagree.

So please remember that these posts are peoples personal opinions about a company/phone, there's no need to get upset and start ripping on other members.

Have a drink, relax. :beer: ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pak-stars:
Htc and samsung have great phones. Its AT&T is the one that messes up everything for the customers as far as development. I havnt seen a phone that couldnt be rooted. This is the whole reason people buy android phones. The one x is a great phone even stock.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] al_g:
The majority of people will never root their android or jail break their iPhone. But I do agree that it is really AT&T who messes things up, great cell network, horrible customer service.

Also stock I wasn't happy with the battery life of my HOX, but CM10 fixed that and now I can go 18 hours on a charge instead of maybe 12.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] superchilpil:
Att has pretty decent customer service, Verizon on the other hand is a horrible company

But my opinion to all is buy a phone that you would like stock just in case you can't root it or buy a nexus device and stop complaining.

No amount of complaining is going to make anything better
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slimslim:
Wassup. It was directed to the op and was a rant since the thread it's (hopefully) at the end of its life :) .

And btw, the One X+ is more of a refresh than a flagship, they even look the same, just some specs bump.

Now, I'll ask you this: you have an upgrade coming next month what would you choose? The gs3, the iPhone 5 or the Hox (it was the first of the three to be released)

(My answer: Hox+) that's why for me Hox+ make sense.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] foxbat121:
I agree that phone maker should concentrate on makeing quality of the phones instead of quantity of the phones released. But that seems to be the thing with Android. Google release major OS updates twice a year. Phone makers to do the same thing with newer hardware or risk being left behind.

Samsung has never stick to one flagship phone a year schedule. Don't know where you get that impression. We have already posted million android phones released by Samsung within the past 12-month a few pages back.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Badger2point0:
Yeah, I get it, the HOX+ will be a great phone I'm sure for those that are upgrading from something older but you gotta admit that it sucks for current HTC customers who will be denied an update so the company can push a new phone.

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I was referring to the international GS2 and the GS3 more or less as they're the true Samsung flagships. Not really accounting for all of the weird carrier deviations of those phones that are tweaked and changed for other markets.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] foxbat121:
I thought you should have known this before you buy any phone.

To save your the trouble to search for what we have already posted, between GS2 and GS3, Samsung released:

GS2 LTE/Skyrocket, Galaxy Note 1, GS2 LTE HD.

I'm not counting carrier variants. For AT&T alone, it released GS2, GS2 Skyrocket and Galaxy Note within 3 months. Even after GS3 releases, we are now going to get Galaxy Note 2 any day. These are all flagship phones.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Badger2point0:
As stated by several the impression was that HTC would support this phone instead of releasing new ones as previously done.

skyrocket and those were also bad ideas, but I can understand a bit more since they carried LTE. The note is an entirely different market.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] foxbat121:
I didn't remember HTC ever said that. They say they would support the 'One' series which is a branding, not just one phone. Also, if HTC had any business plan at the begining of the year, they had to change it now because their bank account won't allow them to continue that.

Stop stretching it:) Samsung never was what you imagined is. I knew it because I used to own nothing but Samsung phones in past couple years.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeartFan40:
If your phone serves its purpose, that's all that really matters. Just because a new incarnation of the One X is released, doesn't make your phone less capable. In fact, the Q/C CPU in the One X+ is a power pig, and has a shorter battery life than the Krait CPU found in the Bastarized One X for AT&T/Rogers etc. I understand wanting the latest and greatest, but I got over that, because I found that switching phones every few months, not only gets expensive, but more times than not, I prefer my "outdated" phone, over the latest and greatest.

Let's not be so quick to throw the One X under the bus. It's fast, solid, has a decent performance to battery life ratio, is sexy, has one of the best screens of any phone currently available, and an impressive camera. Granted there's no Micro SD support, and a non-removable battery, I really liked the One X.

Just my 1.5 cents. ;)

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"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ergotelis:
All right, but i still can't find any other phone to buy at such price,seems quite good!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gridlock489:
Chillax

All I know is with CM10 I can get two full days of regular usage out of one charge, the UI is buttery smooth, and I get superfast LTE. I would choose the Evita handset over a Galaxy SIII any day. Thanks to the amazing devs for the Evita we have some truly incredible custom firmware, so I might even choose the Evita over the new HOX+! To be honest I don't care at all if HTC drops support for our phone in favor of a new handset. This is the opinion of an early adopter who immediately rooted, unlocked and hasn't looked back since ;)

By the way, judging from the fact that the OP is using a throwaway account, I think he was successful in trolling our forum. Perhaps we should focus on the positives of our phone rather than being envious of the latest and greatest...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pak-stars:
yup..has had phone since may but only one post???trollers lol

[Cyanogenized HTC 1X]
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Mister J:
Excuse me?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeartFan40:
Let's not start bickering guys.

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"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slimslim:
She was referring to the OP...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] guitarofozz:
All those reasons plus the slim choice of FULLY WORKING aosp roms is the reason I traded my one x for a GNEX straight across about a month ago. I don't care that I downgraded on hardware for an upgrade on software.

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You forgot the Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket LTD HD SUPERAMOLED LIGHTNING JUPITER LCD2 MAXX
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Mister J:
I didn't say "Excuse me" out of rudeness, but rather I didn't understand what the person said. I can see how it might come across as rude though, since you can't hear my tone of voice through XDA lol.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeartFan40:
Exactly. That's what the emoticons are for. ;)

Excuse me? :confused:

:)

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"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
[HTC EVO 3D] DroidManIc:
Is there a way to fix the notification on this ROM? Like a sprint VVM I can install?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] arrrghhh:
I didn't realize this, but the RAZR M seems to have a semi-official JB leak...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1934396

The device is VERY similar to ours, but I wouldn't risk just flashing this... I am wondering tho if a) this could help us on CM10 or b) if we're going to get official JB soon...

Let the rumor mill begin...
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] bryanfritz1:
Seems like a good starting point, the epic 4g got a lot of stuff from the nexus 4g and other first gen galaxy devices. I wish I new more I want to build but I have no clue, the worst part is I have a 4ghz i7 at my disposal with 12gb ram I am sure it would build fast.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
there is only one thing you can do at this time. send it to me ;P

im sure i have a nice amd dual core around here somewhere i could reimburse you with ;)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] solitarywarrior1:
Same here, I just bought a Q and i'm itching to get CM10 like i have on my Epic. I have an i7-2600k@4ghz and i'd love to put it to work towards such a noble cause! If only i knew how....
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] davidwritesmusic:
I'd imagine someone would need to do kernel work for our phone before any roms can lift off, anyone currently working on that, or have the knowledge to do it??? I'll help build the rom if someones good with kernel development :silly:
[General Questions and Answers] cjcoleman:
Searched the forums, could not find a solution...

Does anyone know if there is an application that can turn an android tablet into a video kiosk? I cannot seem to find any application that does this, only one that will turn it into a browser kiosk.

Basically, here is what I am doing:

I am going to be showcasing videos at a conference and need to have several tablets set up as a kiosk. Due to the lack of internet I will need these videos to play locally off the tablet. I will also need the tablet to time out back to a home screen after the video has been displayed.

Example: A person walks up to the tablet that is displaying a generic kiosk home screen. The person then taps the screen and is presented with a list of videos they can scroll through. They select the video they want to watch. After the video is done playing they are then taken back to the list of videos. If no interaction is made within 10 seconds or so the tablet times out and displays the generic kiosk home screen again.

Does anyone have any idea if there is an application remotely close to what I am seeking?

Type of android tablet and operating system is irrelevant as I can buy the ones needed.
[General Questions and Answers] rahilkalim:
Can you have it set up as a browser kiosk pointing to pages that are locally stored?
[General Questions and Answers] Handman:
Take a look at SureFox Kiosk Browser on Android Play Store. With SureFox you can play videos in local webpages and also set a idle timeout after which the browser will go back to a default home page.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] petecav:
i cannot enter Samsung Galaxy S2 II secret codes please could some one explain, i enter the numbers and * & # but nothing happens any ideas
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tony5593:
Are you on a custom ROM?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] petecav:
secret codes

yes rooted my phone about 4 weeks ago
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SSThing:
The codes will only work on Samsung Roms NOT on AOKP or AOSP based Roms
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] petecav:
secret codes

ok thanks very much
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] wsNN:
Please i need this widget, but no find this in google play..
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] HashyCode:
You can download MiniCM..that widget is include in the rom

Sent by Vince™
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ktg7777:
You can also use swithpro widget on Google play. Its 1.99$
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] demoniacs:
no promoting of warez:p
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ctolsen:
Hi,

I've been frustrated by having two sim cards in two different nations that both need to be on and active at the same time. My phone obviously only supports one card, but I thought it might be possible to remedy this with software.

I'm not necessarily asking if it exists, but if it is at all possible to use a number without its sim card, ie. by importing all the data into the phone and using some software to fill the sim card's place.

Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dealtsoul:
In no way am i a noob in rooting and modding android also I have always referred to xda for some time., but I have a prob with nvflash. I have completed everything up to rebooting in apx. The computer is window 7 and the apx driver is not installed. I have spent several days looking for the drivers but have came up empty handed. Any help in pointing me to the driver download will solve all my problems. :confused:

Also the tab is unlocked.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dealtsoul:
Any one??
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dealtsoul:
ASUS 300T Soft brick.

Well I got that prob fixed and did everything by the book. Now it hangs on the main boot screen. I have APX mode but the blob files are not recovering anything. I have fastboot also but all i get is errors when it trys to write the system or boot back. Recovery disappeared and can not even get in any recovery mode, much less install another. Any ideas? I see alot of help for people but Im not getting nothing. As for as I see this tab is a piece of junk. Never had probs like this from my HTC EVO, HTC EVO Shift, Galaxy Tab, Acer Icona Tab, or my HTC Vivid (Which I had to jump through hoops to get it right, but managed on my own.) Help would be great after days of research.:mad::mad::mad::silly::confused::eek:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dealtsoul:
Well as usual no help so post
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arcsuser:
guys i wonder what does this mean..

my phone is showing a phone with an arrow pointing to it and there is a triangle with a exclamation point..

what is this.. before i got to this..

i download walkman by TK (donwloaded using dolphin browser) and in the notification i press it and it says open with Rom manager to boot into recovery and proceed with the installation.. i press OK.. and it reboots.. shows SONY and after that annoying thing...

I CANT MADE MY PHONE TO BOOT INTO SYSTEM...

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guys if i dont get a quick answer..ill just install android again.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
You've booted into the stock recovery by the sounds of things.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StateOfMind1976:
I am afraid you have to reinstall stock rom by using Flashtool, if you are stuck at the Sony logo.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arcsuser:
how do i get out of this and boot to system?
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arcsuser:
so i guess i have to root again and install all the mods ive installed.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StateOfMind1976:
Yep, you have to reinstall stock firmware and root it. If you have made a nandroid backup you can restore that after rooting. If not, you have to install every app and mod one by one, unfortunately.

I have the same problem (being stuck at the Sony logo) over and over again after flashing a rom with Aroma installer.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] masi0:
Hi,

I have tried stock app with disabled exchange security but it did not worked for XT

Anyone knows how to make it work on our phone?

Thx