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[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
I don't think so.I haven't used CM9 for long, and it was some time ago. In CM7 (think it was version C) never faced it.Even in CM10 it appeared after some time,not from the beginning. After some tests again yesterday, if I close the play store app and load it again after an update or new app has downloaded it will either give me a message about memory (todays message was in English despite the chosen language was in Greek) informing about no space internally or in USB (I guess the sd card is USB). I ran df command directly after that and it showed the available spaces as above. A bug in symbolic linking? In lib2ext? In play store?

It is interesting to state that if I install a big game (above 30 MB) I get the low storage memory message that also appears in the drawer. I guess that everything goes to internal memory and afterwards moves to ext. It is not a simple symbolic link as I understand...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] scoutme:
R: [ROM-alpha] CyanogenMod 10 (Android 4.1.2) [20121017]

As far as I know, android uses internal storage during applications setup and update, and that's why free internal space must be a little more of what you expect in order to let it work properly. Lib2ext moves new libs to ext after first reboot
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
Kabaldan, do you have any plans to move to 4.2?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Erovia:
@_crAss_: I asd him on irc sometime ago and this was his response:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] zemko:
has anyone problems with camera app in latest builds (since January) ?? When I start Camera app it took about 20 seconds then it starts and is ready to use, and then focusing take many seconds too...this last since 2013-01-06 build, before I had 2012-12-22 and it was pretty smooth
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
Stock cam forced closed all the time for me, so I use UCAM with no problems.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
Try with MIUI Camera.I am now using it after deleting stock camera and it is more smooth than UCam also.

pnsdhrn
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
Since there are many of us now I think that have been using CM10 as a daily driver for some time I would like to ask what have you found the optimal size of swap or compcache that you use best.

For my testing the past months I can say that after the swap usage goes above 80MB the phone becomes unusable. If the free swap remains under that there is no problem even with 1 GB of swap space.

The best solution is a reboot every three days to get rid of the laggyness.

I am also trying to use different kind of OOM settings for different swap sizes. I have not concluded to something solid as the best combination, but the change in setting certainly has an effect.

Currently I am testing 64MB and 72 MB with different OOM settings...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] zemko:
I used 64MB, before december without problems, than I tried 128MB and I use it today too and also without problems, zRam 18%, Ram manager pro - Balance (more multitasking) and there is some occasionally lagginess which last only couple of minutes, but it looks smoothier than with 64MB swap
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
Since saturday I installed zepelirox script and did the procedure that has to do with modifying certain files through the pc in order for the changes to stick. I activated also all the new hacks for multitasking and so on. I chose the balanced profile for the 512 MB devices and the results are very very good.

First of all I decided to leave the swap file unrestrained to about 1 GB of swap partition I have on the memory card. I have been power using the device opening and closing various programs constantly, leaving programs that run in the background on and so on and the swap so far has not used more than 60 MB. This usage before the zeppelinrox script gave me above 150 MB of usage in just a couple of hours and of course after that I needed several minutes in order to just manage to reboot the phone without pulling out the battery because of the laggyness.

Also before sometimes because of the laggyness when the phone started to ring, the audio was stuttering and in some extreme occasions the screen to answer the phone never appeared or appeared in delay and the other party had dropped the call before I managed to answer the call. This is not happening any more.

All in all another big step...well I will play around with 512 multitasking setting a bit and see if there is a change for better or worse.

Another big step towards a perfectly stable daily rom.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Erovia:
Are you talking about the V6 SuperCharger? It bootlooped my phone the last time I checked it. Maybe I give it another try.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
Caller screen

I am facing a problem for some time.When I make an outgoing call or when an incoming call comes the caller screen of my Milestone does not keep on.It goes black and appears sometimes the blue screen saying "call finished" when the call is done.Because of this disappearance of red caller screen I can't manage the calls such as call forward,call divert,call wait etc.However, when the keyboard slider is slightly opened the caller appears also.What is the remedy for this? If this is the problem with the senser will the disabling of the senser help to solve the issue?And what is the procedure to disable the senser?Whether this can be done in the Build.prop?If so,which line is to be edited and what is the correct command?Waiting with thanks for detailed instructions from anybody....

pnsdhrn
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
Yes I tried the last version in conjunction with the Ultimate Jar Power Tools and faced no problem at all.

I just run the script, after the script finished, I downloaded the exe file for the pc, activated usb debugging in developer options and the script did everything on its own. It just needs to have the phone drivers installed.

With the webapp in the past I faced many problems as well.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32229149
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] zemko:
does anybody using Instagam on latest builds? Have you faced some problems? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2142655
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
With the 512 MB multitasking profile the results are even better. Right now the only problem I face is with the clock app which force closes when I choose the alarms. This of course is easily solved with a third party alarm clock app in addition to ucam and quickpic I have installed.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
Some more problems have been sorted.

I had the trouble with the stock clock app, which forced closed everytime I chose the alarms.

It only needed to be disabled, cleared of its data and then enabled again.

Also I noticed that opera mini doesn't freeze anymore if you do not exit but just press the home button, open some other app and then return to it. And I do not remember updating it (something to do with zeppelinrox script???).

Before CM10, when I wanted to have vibration on, I just used the drawer shortcut, and the settings stuck after reboot. With CM10 after the reboot it always reverted to off and the only way to make it stick is to change the profile settings.

Finally the workaround I am using for play store is as follows. I choose to update an app, wait until all the needed data has finished downloading , exit, turn on an app that needs lots of memory (eg. navigation software), exit, activate play store again and then it continues to install. At least it takes just 20 seconds.

After the installation of zeppelinrox script much less laggyness is observed after 2-3 days of usage.

Phone works like a charm. I think that all the problems I had faced with CM10 are either gone or a usable workaround exists.

Way to go kabaldan and zeppelinrox. Thanx again to both of you who managed to make the chuck norris phone run CM10 this good!
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
No more further developments

It seems Kabaldan has no activities for Milestone developments for about a month and Skrilax also is concentrating on Photone now.So there sees no new Nightlies in CM10 Buildbot for about a month.

pnsdhrn
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] sdthelord:
Tried the same this weekend. So far everythings runs fine.

But the howto is a mess ;) I miss a clean and straight forward thing so i was basically just hiting numbers and running scripts hoping it will be fine in the end. it is now. but i had 5 several xda threads open and didn't get any more clever...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
I hope Kabaldan tells us of his new phone :)

As far as zeppelinrox script with jar tools is concerned I had the same trouble until I managed to get it sorted out. At least it was worth it.

Also I installed MIUI cam app from CM9 thread and it is better than Ucam.

Finally, even if we get no new updates,still we have a pretty stable and fast CM10 rom.Who would have thought that even 6 months ago.

The only other phone I have kept longer than the milestone was the HTC TyTN I bought in 2006 (it still runs cooked windows mobile 6.5). I guess I will keep milestone for a year or so more...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
I found out yet another good camera cum video apk for our CM10 Milestone.It is better than UCam and even better than MIUI Camera.And the UCam with it's latest update is much worse and not usable now.The present found out apk is Zoom Camera.It is smoother,feature rich and much more lighter than MIUI with 309KB in size.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
Kabaldan seems to have no activity throughout the last month. The nightly builds seem though to have some change in size...I guess it is probably random though due to the compression algorithms...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] mrvek:
There are some changes to all of CMs in the last couple of days.

I doubt kabaldan would just leave without saying a word. Plus, he said he has some fixes he is working on, perhaps he will find time to finish, IDK.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Strokesws:
After various tests my opinion is that CM7 is the fastest Milestone's custom ROM. CM10 is a big achievement for us all, thanks to kabaldan and the others. But I don't think that someday CM10 will be fast and smooth as CM7. :good:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
Have you tried CM10 with all the tweaks we have gathered here? I would agree with you if we are talking vanilla install. But after all the tweaking in my opinion the difference in performance is marginal in favor of CM7.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] scoutme:
R: [ROM-alpha] CyanogenMod 10 (Android 4.1.2) [20121017]

You're not considering CM9. Vanilla CM9 is almost on par with CM7, and more consistent than CM10. Did anyone try those tweaks on CM9?

Apart from that, I'd like to see a new thread, a short one, named "CM10 tweak guide" (maybe one per CM version...). Could be useful as a fast reference.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
I doubt whether your findings are 100% true to facts.I have used CM7 from 7.0.1 to 7.2.4d,CM9 from 9.0.0 to 9.1.0d and CM10 from 20121017 to 20130220 as daily users from their inception progressively following the new introductions from time to time.In all these I found the last mentioned CM10 is the smoothest,the stablest and the most user friendly. And speedwise it is not in any way lagging behind CM7 and CM9.I suspects it overtakes it's predecessors sometimes.Also you can tweak it to your own like with third party apks as it is more flexible than others.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Having read many posts made by yourself (and others of course), and being in the mist of experimenting (again) what CM10 can do (been using CM9 to great avail for over 4 months now), I though it would be cool to have a dedicated thread (if possible) or a post in here showing the steps people "versed" on CM10 for Milestone by now would have made to put it to work in a stable condition.

Ex: Stock app problems (which-what was the workaround-if any exists);

Other apps (same situation as above);

Camera and gallery apps used (which work the best and why the need to use them), and other things like that.

Agree with the statement that a tweaked CM9 might be close to CM7 (stability wise), but when I´ve used CM10 I could not say the same. Probably because I did not stick to it long enough. :silly:

It seems CM10 is as far as development goes on the Milestone (hardware constrains), and as such, I thought it would be a good idea to try and gather as much info on the latest build as possible so to put it to work as a daily driver maybe, with as much smoothness and stability as it possibly can have (CM9 works rather flawlessly on my phone).

I believe it would be interesting to read for people who are still trying to "squeeze" everything the "Stone" as to offer.

Just an idea though :good:

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LOL, did not read your post before hand, so I posted something in the ways of your idea in the post below your last one... :D Funny indeed. We though the same.

Relating the tweaks on CM9, I have tried a few (V6 Supercharger-Swap) and, as said above, my phone is super smooth and stable with them. It´s just that CM10 has got some things 9 doesn´t which are a pain in the ass for me (CM9 "faults": inability to delete frequently called contacts list; enter key automatically sends an sms-pain, pain in the ass this one!! Off the top of my head, its mainly this two things.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
I created a new topic with all tweaks, modifications etc.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
Where we can see it?What is the link to access it?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Erovia:
@pnsdhrn: It's in the Milestone Development section. Here.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Awesome! Will definetly check it out man. :good:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
Thank you.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] scoutme:
R: [ROM-alpha] CyanogenMod 10 (Android 4.1.2) [20121017]

Did anyone successfully install whatsapp on CM10? I get the "tablets not supported error"...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Tiago Costa:
Yes, I'm using it normally. Maybe you need a full wipe to get things working normally. My phone was ridiculously laggy, but performance reached an accceptable level when I did a full wipe.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
MMS

Do any one have problems with MMS messaging in CM10?My phone does not send MMS eventhough I completed the APN set up for the MMS as per the default settings specifications provided by my Carrier provider.When I press the SEND button the MMS shows 'Sending'.But it never sends.What should be the problem and what is the remedy?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] scoutme:
R: [ROM-alpha] CyanogenMod 10 (Android 4.1.2) [20121017]

I actually wiped everything... I think it's a dpi problem. I need to find a way to change screen density in jb. I'll keep you informed...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
I have whatsapp installed, updated to the latest version and working fine...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Erovia:
The dpi can be easily altered by editing the build.prop file.

(Although it is not recommended. It will break the compatibility with most of the apps)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
Do any one have problems with MMS messaging in CM10?My phone does not send MMS eventhough I completed the APN set up for the MMS as per the default settings specifications provided by my Carrier provider.When I press the SEND button the MMS shows 'Sending'.But it never sends.What should be the problem and what is the remedy?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] scoutme:
Ok, I confirm that lowering dpi, starting whatsapp and updating dpi back did the trick
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Just noticed another issue with CM10. After a Titanium restore I realised some of the apps (normally the bigger one´s) did not directly install onto the Ext partition like the others. If I go to aplications>on SDCard they appear with a mark (meaning they are on the "tradicional" SDCard spot (the "old" app2ext android option). Trying to move these apps to the internal memory ("linked" ext partition) gives me an error of "low memory, cannot move aplication". There is plenty of room on the Ext partition though.

I´ve tried using Titanium to move the apps to internal (Ext) and it worked ok (apps moved), but whenever I go to open any of the moved apps (with Titanium) none start, with an inicialization error... if I move them back to the SDCard they start just fine...:confused:

So, I´m stuck with some apps on the SDCard, unable to move them to the ext partition. Anyone has had this problem before?

Any ideas? Thanks.:good:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
I have faced this problem. What I do is I delete all temporary data and cache of most programs that store lots of information (e.g. browsers, skype, navigation software) and then I can install...After a reboot everything is moved to ext.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
Install an apl CacheMate Root from Playstore and with it clean caches and temporary files thereby releasing a lot of memory space.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
I´m using History Eraser. I do believe this program does the same as the one you have mencioned. still, will see how it goes, if other methods do not work I´ll try that app out.

P.S: I haven´t forgotten the mms issue. Maybe tomorrow I´ll get money back into the Milestone and after I will see how that goes on my phone :good:

Thanks man.

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I´m in the middle of trying your idea out. I will see how it goes. It is kind of hard to imagine what apps occupy more space though (although some are easy ofcourse).

Will report back

Thanks. :good:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
I´ve just cleaned caches and data on: Maps; NDrive; Skype; Android Browser, and several other "big" sized apps. Still I can´t move them to internal memory... I´ve also rebooted several times. I´ve wiped Dalvik cache also and nothing.

I don´t quite know if you had the same problem I´m having since you say "install it". For me the apps are already installed. I can use them perfectly ok IF they are on SDCard (the one´s that did not automatically move to internal/Ext partition). The problem I´m facing is that even if I try to "force" move them Android brings an error that there is not enough space (in which I believe would be the ext partition...). With Titanium they do move, but do not launch (if I put them back to SDCard they launch fine again)... Will try to expand the ext partition to see how it goes... Can you tell me what size your ext partition has got and how much space is there left please?

Thanks for any idea.:good:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
Run the df command (might need to su first) on a terminal window and see if there is somewhere a low space situation.

I have 889 MB allocated to the ext partition and I am using 537 MB currently.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
I´ve just emited a df on the phone. Nothing seems quite out of the ordinary really...:confused:

Attached are the screenshots. Maybe someone sees something I don´t?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] keny312:
I had download and installed this rom, but when first time boot up, it stuck in the boot up page, showing the wording ANDROID non stop....

any one can help? i did 3 wipe before install this rom.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
After instalation, and if you did the wipes as you mencion, wait for the phone to boot up. The first boot is looong. If it still hangs, pull the battery a few times and try again until it boots fine. It should work.:good:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Tiago Costa:
Do you have an ext partition in your sdcard? If you don't have one, this ROM will not work.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
I think you have to format SD Card with SD Formatter and do the partition to ext3 using Minitool to prevent the coming of Android and to appear the Cyanogen logo.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Eiertschik:
The Android logo (standard bootanimation) appears because the ROM (and the new bootanimation) weren't installed successfully.

CM10 requires an Ext partition on the SD card.

FuFu's Minimod Recovery can do this, but it formats the whole card so you'll have to backup your data first: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1091787

If you own a SD card reader you can repartition it with either Minitool or gParted by simply resizing the FAT partition to make space for the Ext.

It should be at least 512MB, I'd say.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] keny312:
Thanks for the info, dude !

:laugh::good:

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Many thanks, pal !:good:

will try it later......hope everything go well.

I wish to see the reborn of the legend@ MOtorola Milestone :cool:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
Can TWRP Recvery be installed in our Milestone A853 instead of Kabaldan's Open Recovery or MiniMod Open Recovery?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Eiertschik:
No.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
Thank you
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
4.2

I happened to see two threads where in CM10 4.2(http://www.androidegis.com/how-to/i...10-1-on-motorola-defydefy-plus/#comment-25946) and CM10 4.2.2( http://www.hackmyandroid.com/get-cm...-bean-on-your-motorola-defy/4101#comment-2331) have been released for Defy.I do remember that Kabaldan had said somewhere in this thread that Defy and Milestone belong to the same class and they share many features in common.If that is the case whether will it be possible to adapt these ROMs to our Milestone with some tweaking if our developers concentrate on it?Sorry for the fact that I am not an efficient developer.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
It is possible, but we are left with only kabaldan and he has chosen to focus on CM7 and 9 at this point. Let's hope he will spend some time with 10 as well again...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
OK.We can pray to God to let Kabaldan concentrate on CM10 also and particularly to 4.2 in that case.....
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Erovia:
Afaik, Kabaldan doesn't plan to upgrade to 4.2, because it would probably break a lot of already working feature.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
The Defy folks developed their 4.1 ROM from our Kabaldan's CM10 and from it they have upgraded to their 4.2.And we are stuck in 4.1 allowing our followers to supersede us!!
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Eiertschik:
The Motorola Defy has twice as much RAM and a better processor.

Upgrading Milestone to 4.2 wouldn't make anything better.

To be honest, i think everything beyond CM7 is not really usable on Milestones due to the lack of RAM.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
Well just load the latest CM10 and do all the tweaks that we have employed as described in the other thread. I think you will change your mind after that... (of course swap is needed)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
I second you.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] scoutme:
Even if I love CM10 (I did ask for a CM10 tweak thread, if you remember), I can't say CM10 gives a flawless experience as CM7 does. I notice some lag in critical apps as Phone and Contacts (while trying to answer a call, even if not for every call received) that made me revert to CM7.

That's sad, since CM10 interface is miles ahead of CM7; actually, since I work with my phone, I prefere excellent phone use and simple smartphone use over advanced smartphone use and mediocre phone use.

My 2c