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[HTC One X+] kreindler:
;)

i didnt say sensation xe is getting more support than the sensation.

you got me all wrong....

SO> "Two flagships a year is fine, especially when the two in a year are nearly identical. The One X+ is just for people that don't want to take a gamble on buying a One X, especially when they could get an HT23 model or something similar that would likely have a massive number of defects."

- in my opinion 2 flagships a year is way too much.

"In your eyes, HTC is "going bancrupt" no matter what."

-again wrong

"Either they don't release the One X+, and the One X sucks compared to the GS3 and every other smartphone out there."

- wrong again. in my opinion - NOW in this very moment - the HOX is the best smartphone money can buy. I wouldnt change a HOX for 2 GS3, as I have a special medical condition and I am allergic to high end phones with cheap plastic.

"If they do release the One X+, they release a phone on par with everything else... and suck anyways, because they're "abandoning the older models", even though they will get the exact same amount of support."

- it will not be because of the HOX+ they will drop the support for HOX. NO. But when HOX 2 or wtf it will be called comes out, they wouldnt remember the HOX or HOX+ existed...

The example with sensation was meant differently>

Do they now offer an apropiate support for the sensation xe launched not even a full year ago?

Obvious answer is NO !!!!

Now, try to take a wild guess when the same will happen with the HOX+..... I am not Nostradamus, but i think i can predict the next flagship after HOX+ somewhere before end of july.

What will happen with HOX+ then????

We will see promises after promises that it will get the latest android etc, but in 1 month they forget they promised anything.

This is why i am complaining about.

Not about the device itself or the fact that they want to improve something...

Now let's be honest. Look at apple. Why are they having such a success????

Well first because when you buy an iPhone you know that for at least a year it will be the coolest iphone around.

Second - even after that it will get support for ar least another year and a half or two.

Now, don't get me wrong again - i dont like iPhones... But can't HTC learn smthing from apple?

Take the iphone 4 for example - it had the obvious design fault of the "death grip".

How did apple handle the issue? They changed the design one year later.

HOX got the complaint about the battery that it could have been bigger etc But the issue was not that critical as in the above issue.

Now, what did HTC do??? Rolled out a new flagship, to make the next customers happy for 6 month till the next flagship and tease the owners of the HOX.....

And in the above example apple is not the only company having this success strategy.

Take nexus phones for example... Do you see 2 flagship nexus models each year??? Don't think so....

Hopefully HTC will also get the point sometime soon... it's a pity because the devices are really nice, nice built, performance etc...
[HTC One X+] barondebxl:
For me, its gonna be either this or the LG nexus 4. I can't wait for monday the 29th!
[HTC One X+] rickinyorkshire1:
o2 are now stocking this phone. I can't link to the o2 site as i'm a noob on here. :p
[HTC One X+] Schumi 01:
Here you go young man. LINKAGE :good:
[HTC One X+] victor711:
Jack Tong also mentioned the One X+ and One S SE updated edition, which will hit shelves in Asia on October 30. No other markets were mentioned, but we recon they shouldn't be too far behind the schedule.
[HTC One X+] rickinyorkshire1:
I'm hoping T-Mobile get it in stock for the 17th of next month when my 2 year contract is up.

On a side note, do I have to enter captcha details everytime I post?
[HTC One X+] Hunt3r.j2:
In which case, you're saying that the Sensation is being abandoned. Either it isn't and you're very misleading, or it is and it doesn't matter, because HTC needs to start dropping support for 2011 devices because of just how insanely difficult it is to support 20+ devices. The people that care about updates will be able to get them via the One S C2.

That's great. My answer is that your phone does not become any less shiny because a slightly updated version comes out to try and boost mid-cycle sales. Do you hate car manufacturers because they do midcycle refreshes of their lineup?

That's great, but most people don't care. By and large, people buy off of spec lists because they don't know what they want, or whatever an ad tells them to buy.

Stop kidding yourself. 4.2 launched in June. The PDK was only released for updates after 4.2. A 2-3 months to develop updates for the One X and One X+ is pretty much par for the course.

Well first... there is no first. The One X+ IS the One X. People were complaining about battery life, which something that matters every day and cannot be mitigated to any serious extent once the device is optimized to the maximum extent. HTC basically had the choice between sitting there and letting their downward slide accelerate, or launching something for the holidays. Apple can't even follow it's own strategy, the iPad 3 was only considered "the latest" for 6-7 months before it was replaced with the iPad 4.

Stop trying to compare Android and iOS update lifetimes, even Samsung doesn't bother trying to update their flagships after a year or so. The Galaxy S2 is basically completely forgotten by Samsung, 4.1 is arriving to that device well after 4.2 will have launched.

You're trying to assume that Apple is the model to go by for support. The simple answer to that is no, Samsung is the standard by which update rates are measured, because iOS is completely different from Android.

Either way, go ahead and not buy HTC. Samsung is already well on its way to monopolizing all Android devices. Within 2 years, I'm willing to say that they will be the only OEM that is still profitable barring any unexpected issues.
[HTC One X+] kreindler:
We just have different opinions mate:) I am and will remain a HTC fan and will buy HTC as long as nothing similar in terms of design quality and specs (all together) appears.. I just don't feel treated accordingly by HTC

:)

And regarding this:

Yes, in fact I do! :)) Main reason I wouldn't buy a new Audi A4 for example. Each year another model / complete facelift

Instead look at Mercedes - one model each 5 or 6 years....

I am pretty sleepy it's almost 4 in the morning over here:)

so>

Good night:)
[HTC One X+] daredevil_off:
it's delayed one more time!
[HTC One X+] catachresistant:
Strange, considering this guy already got his.
[HTC One X+] WA_Bob:
Hmmmm...... I wonder if the delay just applies to out of UK shipping or just to non-carrier version of the One X+. :confused:
[HTC One X+] ectodroid:
These delays are killing me :(
[HTC One X+] uqadwe:
I can confirm i heard this news from a reliable source.

But Expansys confirmed me this morning that the device will reach them on the 31 october
[HTC One X+] WA_Bob:
That's annoying. I wonder what Clove did to get on HTC's bad side? :confused:
[HTC One X+] CaelanT:
Err, no, they are not! :)
[HTC One X+] Dibben:
I sent a reply and have been told that they expect the phones to be delivered on Saturday...

Sent from my HTC Desire
[HTC One X+] Baldilocks:
According to the Expansys website, they aren't expecting the One X+ until November, 10th.

(It's been saying that for the past week now.)

http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-one-x+android-smartphone-unlocked-237901/
[HTC One X+] uqadwe:
No selfishness involved but I hope this doesn't affect European availability.
[HTC One X+] scotia_rfc:
I've been swaying back and forth for the last few weeks on whether I should buy this handset or not. Still not decided if I'm honest.

The whole delayed release etc reminds me very much of when I was waiting on the Desire HD being released. I ended up cancelling my order with Clove and going into a Phones 4 U shop to buy it, after trying to buy it in just about every other phone shop in a 20 mile radius of my home who wouldn't sell it Sim Free, keeping their stock for contracts only. I recon the only reason the guy sold me it was because it was his last one in stock.

I can't believe that only O2 in the UK are offering this on a contract basis, and virtually all of the phone shops I've enquired about it in have no clue what I'm talking about. They keep on saying to me "Do you mean the HTC One XL? That's the 4G version". This will surely go down as one of the biggest flagship fails ever. HTC's to of the range handset, offered by 1 UK network and unknown buy many high street suppliers.

It makes you think tho, why aren't HTC or the major networks pushing this handset like they did the One X or other models? Is there something else around the corner soon? It's all a bit strange. I think I'll sit tight with my Sensation for a few weeks and read the reviews from you guys. There's no doubt it's a cracking handset, just can't help wondering why it's not getting the promo it deserves.

Anyway, hope for everyone that's pre-ordered that the release date stays the 2nd. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the handset.
[HTC One X+] redshark313:
My thoughts exactly, plus I also have a sensation. Does seem a bid weird, shame htc aren't doing so well - although I always root their devices, maybe that's their problem...
[HTC One X+] Schumi 01:
Now in stock on Gloves site, shipping out tomorrow. :good:

LINKAGE
[HTC One X+] WA_Bob:
Well now! Positive news finally! :D
[HTC One X+] deepsky303:
When the date have been changed? today i received this letter :

" Unfortunately we have no control over the manufacturer decisions with regard to release dates but they are currently saying that stock will be available to ship on Friday. "
[HTC One X+] hasoon2000:
I PM'd him. Maybe he can help us get development started!
[HTC One X+] uqadwe:
Expansys has it on stock too.
[HTC One X+] WA_Bob:
I hadn't heard either - Schumi 01 posted a link to Clove's page for the One X+ which says it will start shipping tomorrow. I assume that means their first shipment is in right now and we're just waiting for someone to drop it in the post box. If I don't hear anything myself tomorrow, I'll e-mail them myself to see what's up, but they seem rather good at communicating with customers so I'm keeping fingers crossed,
[HTC One X+] Schumi 01:
I also see MobileFun will have them in stock tomorrow ready for priority shipment

LINKAGE perhaps, the official release date is tomorrow then. Was going to order one, but just going wait a couple of weeks before i buy.
[HTC One X+] WA_Bob:
Looks like if you're in the UK you may be able to start walking into stores tomorrow and pick one up I dare say. Now, to see how long it takes mine to get here to me..........
[HTC One X+] Dibben:
Clove now have them and they are shipping tomorrow...

As per their Twitter page!

:thumbup:

Sent from my HTC Desire
[HTC One X+] Dibben:
Sorry, I just seen this post...

:o

Sent from my HTC Desire
[HTC One X+] Sashtheflash:
Tomorrow I get mine ;) swap for the one x because of sending it in more than 3 times
[HTC One X+] WA_Bob:
LOL! Yeah - Hard to keep track of what posted who some days. :silly:
[HTC One X+] barondebxl:
handtec too.
[HTC One X+] Sashtheflash:
There it is :

It's so much better than the X.... Incredible
[HTC One X+] Santolman:
Dit it come with urbeats included?
[HTC One X+] deepsky303:
At last :

"They arrived earlier than expected which is very good news. Your order is shipping today and you will soon receive your tracking reference."
[HTC One X+] ectodroid:
Still waiting.. delivery date has jumped from 6th to 15th back to 6th in my country :crying:
[HTC One X+] Sashtheflash:
Yeah there were in ear Beats included
[HTC One X+] scotia_rfc:
The clove website advises that it only comes with the standard HTC headphones, so if it has beats headphones then that's a bonus!
[HTC One X+] uqadwe:
Are you really sure that there are Beats headphones or standard ones?
[HTC One X+] WA_Bob:
"We are pleased to confirm that your order is shipping and you will receive your tracking reference by email later today.

Regards

Sales Team

Clove Technology"

Woot! Well, if they come with Beats ear buds, I'll have a spare pair then. Regardless, getting stoked for real now! :good:
[HTC One X+] celine62:
Expansys has sent me l this morning:d
[HTC One X+] uqadwe:
Congrats!

Anyone can confirm the Beast headphones?

I am almost sure they aren't part of the package. Considering it's only a small refresh I think this idea should have been considered.

What about screen flex/ripple? Is it present?
[HTC One X+] Sashtheflash:
Enough confirmation?
[HTC One X+] Sashtheflash:
I habe absolute no screen, flex, even when Pressing hard.
[HTC One X+] TheAquanox:
I've just received this email from Clove:

Thank you for expressing an interest in the HTC One X+, the new flagship device from HTC.

We are pleased to inform you that we now have the One X+ in stock and can ship one out for you if you would like to place an order.

http://www.clove.co.uk/htc-one-x-plus

The One X+ is a beautifully designed, top of the range smartphone. Here's a reminder of what it has to offer:

.	8MP Camera with HTC ImageSenseT
.	1.7 GHz NVIDIA Tegra3 quad-core processor
.	Beats AudioT technology
.	25GB free cloud storage for 2 years
.	HTC Media Link HD
.	Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
.	64GB Internal storage
.	4.7" Touch screen, 1280 x 720 resolution
.	Gorilla Glass 2
.	Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0, DLNA, NFC, 3G (quad-band)
.	A-GPS with Google Maps
.	MHL for video & audio out
.	1.6MP front facing camera
.	134.36 x 69.9 x 8.9mm
.	2100 mAh battery
.	135g with battery

If you need any assistance in making a purchase, please contact us on the details below

Kind Regards

Sales Team

Clove Technology

TEL: +44 (0)1202 552936
FAX: +44 (0)1202 552937

Email: sales@clove.co.uk
Website: www.clove.co.uk
[HTC One X+] WA_Bob:
LOL! Yeah - That's either proof or you're very bored and trying to mess with us. :cyclops:
[Defy Themes and Apps] dog121:
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Defend mankind from a killer virus spreading

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heres the link for playstore the download content is 80mb so use your WIFI

runs well on cm7 not to good on cm10 maybe a few tweaks needed

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.redrobot.globaloutbreak
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sergiales:
Good time spent here!! I have learnt a lot! I have just sold my Gt5800 and bought a Desire. I like old mobiles :) because they are cheap and you can find great deals!!!

Good luck!!!
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riewe:
Won as the sale?

Good luck with the new phone =D
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] janjevac:
Good luck

I got Sony Xperia U just when it got out, but I've been using SG3 for almost 2 years and I will never get rid of it. I bought a prepaid card so I can continue using it as a second phone (I don't need a second phone because my company doesn't charge me for using their phone)
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Coren0327:
I'm also looking for buying an Xperia phone to leave my old Galaxy 3, the "U" is cheap and corret but the fact that you cannot add extra memroy (sdCard) stopped me. I prefer to wait and see for an other cheap Xperia, the Miro seems great but the processor has the same perf as our beloved Galaxy 3... So I'll wait :angel:
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Koucz87:
For me Gs3 was first contact with Android. it was good choice in my opinion to have it.
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AzNTypeR:
Lol, I've still got the G3 locked up in a cupboard as im using the Play now, just be warned. You will never go back to using the G3 again.. Ive only used it twice this year lool.
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Antibot:
Anyone interested in exchanging SGS3 with my SG3? Haha :)
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dilzo:
Haha pay me £1000 then I'll be happy to exchange.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] beforedenied:
Since the 4.1 update is coming to the i9100 next month, but is not officially scheduled for our phone, will the jb update for the i9100 provide us with full camera functionality on jellybean, or must we wait for i777 jb source to come out?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nick281051:
Wut

It has always worked

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
Can u smell the win? Can u?!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] beforedenied:
No it isn't? I mean, it works and all but in JellyBean ROMS, all that i have tried have 3rd party apps as the camera.apk, like jb camera +. There is no touch to focus, so i ask again, once the jb source is released for i1900, will there be FULL camera functionality for 4.1 roms?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MotoMudder77:
The only JB we have is AOSP.

We have AOSP camera.

Its not broke. theres nothing missing

Touchjizz camera might have different functions.

And if any JB AOSP builds come with a 3rd party camera, the Dev is a retard.

So to answer your question. Who knows. havent seen JB Touchjizz. how can we know what the functions are.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] beforedenied:
So on whatever ROM you're running, what camera.apk are you using?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
He just answered you man. The camera that comes with the rom. (he had called it the AOSP camera app).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] beforedenied:
Could someone possibly upload the camera.apk and give me a link? Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] clay101eve:
Win

Clay

Team Pirate

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 122ninjas:
Why not update your rom?

Bleh
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] beforedenied:
Update my ROM?? my rom is up to date... I'm running M1UI 2.10.12
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nick281051:
Well then no camera we give you will work

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ChefAnt:
First off, the rom you are running is NOT for the i777. It's a port from the i9100. So expect bugs and what not. It does have the JB AOSP stock camera. Every funtion is working for me on cMIUI 2.10.12. So must be you not wiping data/cache or doing something noobish.

Secondly, why did I even read this thread?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] beforedenied:
Ugh everyone that is replying is giving me information alot more stupid than my question. The ROM i am running is for the i777, im not stupid, i know its a port, making it FOR MY PHONE. lol there are no bugs really. it does NOT have the jb aosp stock camera. touch to focus does not wok and why would there be any problems with the way i flashed my ROM? thats not the problem im not a noob. I dont know why you replyed to the thread, or read it for that matter, being as you gave no useful information and it was a question thread.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nick281051:
Your question makes no sense. We have fully working camera. Try not using miui who close sources their ****

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
Fixed that for ya :rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] beforedenied:
?

Phalanx, You are not very smart are you? Why do there have to be some many obnoxiousness people on these forums. They go around, finding threads of people asking for help, and antagonize them for things. If you're going to be a prick and give unless, sarcastic comments that completly in no way are reverent to the topic, why do they even let you on here?

May i just ask why you think that forgetting to do a full wipe and formatting /system partition would make my touch to focus not be supported? You probably don't even know what touch to focus is, and oviously don't know what problem i am having. If you really need to pick on people over the internet to make yourself feel better, then i guess i'll just ignore it, but there are better ways to spend your time.

Also, MIUI is not closed source. I don't know why someone would say that, but its not true. I had reason to believe that the reason that we had to use a third party application as the camera app because the camera drivers weren't released for jellybean, but i guess its because the MIUI camera doesn't yet work with Samsung based jellybean ROMS.

(http://androidcommunity.com/chinese-oem-xiaomi-publishes-miui-open-source-code-20120203/)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
Lol I was just pointing out u don't have to get angry at people giving responses to yer question man. It's all in good fun here. If we can't laugh at ourselves (myself included here of course, God knows how many mistakes I've made) what can we laugh at? Nothing personal man. But if I did offend I apologize. Not my intention. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] clay101eve:
Phail...

Clay

Team Pirate

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] beforedenied:
Ha, alright. I didn't mean to respond so dramatically, its just really hard to understand internet-sarcasm. And i wouldn't have got mad if you weren't doing it more than just here, but what really got me goin' was how wiping before install is kinda irrelevant.

Anyway, to be honest... My question has not been answered.

I, personally, cannot find a single Jellybean ROM for the i777 that has the AOSP camera,Stock android camera, MIUI camera, Samsung camera, or any other fully functioning camera. Maybe i am missing something, but they all seem to be using this camera:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moblynx.cameraics&hl=en

This is not the AOSP camera. And i am not incorrect in saying that it is not fully functional. There is no touch to focus. Now, some app developers have made apps (such as ICS Camera) that make you think they are touch to focus, advertising it as a funtion. But they are not true touch to focus. Yes, you can touch the screen and the camera will autofocus, but you cannot choose where in the depth of field you wish to focus. I have searched and searched, and wish someone could send me a link explaining this FULLY so i can shut up already. lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 122ninjas:
In aokp there is true tap to focus...

Bleh
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] beforedenied:
Ah, thank you. I will now attempt to figure out why there is no support for MIUI camera app with jellybean.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MotoMudder77:
Because no True DEV supports Miui. Its a collaboration of **** tossed together with real DEV's work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] beforedenied:
Since when? I mean, the camera worked great with ICS builds, but not with JB. I'm just wondering why they dont work anymore on ICS, i thought it would have been due to the lack of JB Camera drivers, and that it would be updated once JB was released for i777
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] clay101eve:
Not being rude but, why is this still being discussed? MIUI isn't supported here.

Clay

Team Pirate

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] :
Have you tried AOKP, Slim Bean, Paranoid Android, CM10 or any of the great options that ALL offer touch to focus, its the same as Samsung touch to focus, as I cycle between Touchwiz ROMS and JB I'm sure
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
Well, I know yer right about some of the mini builds. I haven't tried any in over a month but I do remember that when I did try a version of cmiui it had a broken camera so the dev included a third party camera app from the market that had adware in it, so every time I went to use the camera a frigging ad would pop up lol. I haven't tried miui since, but it sounds like either they got it working now, or they at least have a work around via using these third party apps. Maybe someone who's running it right now on the latest release can tell us the exact camera being used. ;)