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[Droid RAZR M General] boriquajake:
Can you flash a recovery if you can't root first?

Did I screw myself over by not attempting either root or unlocking before I got the latest update from Verizon? I have been dilligently looking up instructions and it seems like things should be fairly straightforward. Run motochopper and root, (first having all the drivers and whatnot) then run motopocalypse to unlock, right? Well every time I try motochopper I get this:

Seems odd that it would say it failed and then say it worked. Not knowing if this was normal I press on and try motopocalypse and get this:

Motopocalypes notices that I don't have su and even though part of the message is that unlocking complete in the results it shows "unlocked: no".

It appears that the answer to the next two questions is Eff NO!, but I'll ask anyway: Is it possible to flash a custom recovery without having root? Can I unlock without having root?

Heheh, I'm the kind of tool devs probably hate. I always root my android devices out even though I'm sure I never fully take advantage of all the fun to be had. I have only a vague understanding of what all the terminology means and I ask questions that show how dense I truly am and I've been owning and rooting android devices with the help of forums like this since the T-Mobile G1 I got back in like 2007. I'm also familiar with the special headaches associated with Motorola as the next android device I ever owned was the Cliq.
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
*****xt907 root method for locked bootloaders

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2379833

I find a lot of tips on root exploits But you summed up that which can not find.

If I am unlocked and want to "rsd" this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2375181--How does a Noob find the steps. Matts util needs root to flash cwr.

Can you help direct me?
[Droid RAZR M General] St.Noigel:
Try this - just reboot to bootloader, run ADB and type :

CD - dir with ADB
[Droid RAZR M General] boriquajake:
You can fill whole libraries with what I don't know about android but...

I'm pretty sure I can't do anything like flash new recoveries or boot to the locked bootloader without first having root. Am I crazy, but isn't gaining root the first step in any of this stuff?
[Droid RAZR M General] Ebiforever:
Same Problem

I am having the same problem, is there away to unlock after the recent verizon update. Any help would be appreciated
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...oot-razr-m-xt907-for-locked-devices-on-91878/

All on the newest SW you now HAVE ROOT ACCESS!! At least.
[Droid RAZR M General] boriquajake:
Root without unlocking the bootloader

Again, I'm not to smartest kid on the short bus, so I don't fully understand everything that these things entail, but it was my understanding that in order to flash a new recovery and install custom ROMs one needs to have an unlocked bootloader in addition to having ROOT access. Is that correct?
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
SafeStrap will get you by.
[Droid RAZR M General] boriquajake:
I promise I will also google SafeStrap but....

SafeStrap is one of those things I have heard mentioned for a long time, but I've never been sure what it does and what it's for.
[Droid RAZR M General] Ebiforever:
Re

I have used the above method to go to an older version before the update, when I try to use motoclypse it wouldnt unlock the phone, Maybe someone can help me and I am skipping some steps. DO you run the motoclypse when the phone is on or do you run it when you have it restrated on the fastboot page?
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
While the non bootloader partitions get downgraded the NEW bootloader is untouched. :(
[Droid RAZR M General] Ebiforever:
Re

SO this means that one cannot unlock the phone? In the link you provided a lot of people saying it worked successfully for them, Do you know if I am missing a step?
[Droid RAZR M General] Magicman500:
Unfortunately, it seems as though you cannot roll back the the change to the Trusted Zone code (The initial vulnerability that made unlocking possible). I don't see any posts on that thread saying it worked, but I have seen quite a few claiming that it doesn't. Unfortunately, we appear to have missed out forever. Hopefully I won't make the same mistakes on the next phone I get.
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
You have to be unlocked to flash aftermarket recoveries.

You are correct for recoveries, but you can flash ROMs with SafeStrap.

You can flash ROMs with SS, but you can't flash kernels or custom recoveries. It's a band-aid and it still leaves your stock recovery intact.

SafeStrap is a method used to flash custom ROMs on a locked bootloader. It keeps your stock ROM intact and you set up a "slot" and flash the new ROM on there. Keep in mind, you need to use one of the older SS compatible ROMs.

http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/how-to-safestrap/

Downgrading will not allow you to unlock. The OTA patches the security hole.
[Droid RAZR M General] Empanser:
Alright, noob here so bear with me.

I made the mistake of installing the OTA literally 15 minutes before I finally decided I wanted to root. I think I'm basically in the same boat as boriquajake, same motochopper problems.

Here's what I have in my head (my goal is to put PACman onto my phone), I'd love if someone would let me know if I'm heading in the right direction, missing steps, etc.

- I've got to root my phone so I can unlock the bootloader

- I've got to unlock my bootloader to flash a custom ROM

At this point, can a Razr M straight out of the box actually be rooted and flashed? (something about safestrap)

I love when you answer your own question by re-reading, after you post your question.
[Droid RAZR M General] b514488l:
Thanks Dan and all helpful members here! :good::good::good:

I downloaded the package, I installed the Motorola Device Manager (the ADB driver), I plugged the phone to my PC in USB debugging connection and I ran the batch file...

and I got a problem that I pressed the Vol+ and Power untl the phone vibrate When I release the buttons, the phone restarted !!!:crying:

Does any of you have any idea about this?

I am using XT905...

Big Thanks ~
[Droid RAZR M General] WhatTheCuss:
Tried this but it's not working out...

Here is the URL of my thread, please help out!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2389899

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Ok so I have followed the root method of "djrbliss" to the letter, every time I attempt the root it says "exploit failed", "cleaning up" and then "successful" then the phone reboots, I check to make sure it has rooted properly with one of the root checker apps and it says the phone doesn't have root access. So I have tried this multiple times taking suggestions from other threads and users such as ( clearing cache and doing a factory reset, and replacing the su and superuser files with the ones from the other cite) I was super jacked to root my new razr m but now I am not so sure, please help out guys.
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
Look for my reply in your thread.
[Droid RAZR M General] Grud21:
Nothing is working

Help i have a razr m and i can not get it to root. i need advice or something!!!

please help
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
Is your boot loader unlocked? What system version are you on?
[Droid RAZR M General] Grud21:
I don't think it is I tried to root I got superuser but it was not rooted. I'm on 98.18.78.XT907. I'll be honest I really don't have a clue what I'm doing.
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
Okay, you're on the latest update, which, in itself is not rootable. There is a work around they came up with on DroidRzr. Here's the link: http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...oot-razr-m-xt907-for-locked-devices-on-91878/
[Droid RAZR M General] jase5273:
The question I have, I didn't see posted anywhere, so please forgive me if it has already been asked. I am running system version 98.16.3, Jellybean 4.1.2, and I, for the life of me, cannot seem to get any tool to work to use for rooting. My bootloader is locked, and every time I try to get root, I get the error message that it failed. I've tried all the tips and tricks that I have seen all over the place, but it just does not seem to work. Is it because it's just not going to happen for me, or am I doing something completely wrong here? Sorry for the noob question, but I really want this to work, if possible.
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
Sometimes, the root process can just be a pain. When I initially received my phone, I set it up and then tried to root it. The root wouldn't work without me wiping cache/dalvik and factory resetting. At one point, I had to RSD back to stock. This time, I rooted the phone right after initial activation and didn't have to wipe anything. Some other people report having to run the utility multiple times to get it to work. Which root method did you try?
[Droid RAZR M General] jase5273:
I have tried using Motochopper, Matt's Utility, RSD... anything that I could possibly find. I have tried factory resetting, not setting anything up on the phone and then trying it, and it still didn't work. I've been trying for the past 2 days now. I also tried SamuriHL as well, and still get nothing. I'm just getting frustrated with the whole thing, and it's just not working. I thought it was because I was on a different system than everybody else, and then I got the OTA as soon as I turned the phone on, not thinking that the update may have something to do with it. I'm just all out of options. Any help with this would be appreciated.
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
Oh, so you are on the latest update. I missed that. The only method that I've seen work is the one that Sam posted on DroidRzr. You said you tried it? If it's not working, you might have to post in that thread. Here's the link:

http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...oot-razr-m-xt907-for-locked-devices-on-91878/
[Droid RAZR M General] jase5273:
Thanks a lot. I'll go post in that thread then. Appreciate your time.
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
NP, sorry I couldn't help much. I haven't dealt with that new root method.

edit: Looks like you got it working. You should stick around over on DR, there's a lot of good stuff going on there.
[Droid RAZR M General] zombolt:
I just need to vent: I migrated from the Dinc which was thoroughly modded out to epic proportions. I know that having an unlocked phone and strong dev community greatly extends the life of the device. I did my research about which big red 4G phone to get, and over a mere week's time from when I did my research to when I got my device, that 7-13 update was pushed. Is there a bounty on getting this phone unlocked again? There is so much about this phone i like. I got used to Cm10.1 and I would do anything to get it on this device. Maybe have the good fortune of finding someone who wants to sell their device and let me swap devices?? Is a safestrap CM10.1 a possibility in the future?

Thanks for all your hard work. You know who you are.

Zombolt
[Droid RAZR M General] jase5273:
I think I'm gonna have to do that. The problem that I have now, is that I have a locked bootloader and can't get it unlocked. Apparently, with the Android version I'm on (4.1.2), it's impossible. I really wanted to flash a custom ROM and recovery on this phone, so I feel like all is lost right now. LOL. Wish there was a type of workaround for it.
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
You can install SafeStrap to run some of the older SS compatible ROMs. On this forum, Energy, and Eclipse v1.2 were originally designed for SS and should work. On DR, there's DeadCalm which was originally designed for SS but may have been modded for an unlocked BL and Flying Jelly which was originally desigend for SS (I'm not sure if it was ever modded for unlocked BL). Honestly, if you want the closest to AOSP on a locked BL, Eclipse is the way to go, just make sure you use the correct version.

How to SafeStrap:

http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/how-to-safestrap/
[Droid RAZR M General] jase5273:
Wow, thank you for this. I knew SafeStrap was out there, but of course, I'm confused by it. I will just read it step by step and see what I can do with that. Obviously if I have any questions, I'll make sure to address them appropriately. Of course, thank you again for all of your help. I really appreciate it.
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
Yeah, no problem and don't be afraid of asking questions. I've come off pretty rough in a couple of recent threads, but I'm going to stop doing that. Welcome to the community and good luck.
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
I am not a Dev. Only delved into the dx2 and the M. I assembled this for unlocked Ms. I wanted to try it out on my wife's M which is locked on ...78. I do not see how it could root one but I keep wondering about it. Will some Dev set me right?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2391641
[Droid RAZR M General] jase5273:
So I do have one question about SafeStrap. I've downloaded it, and it's a .zip file. I guess I'm wondering, do I extract it first and then move it to my phone? Or, do I download it straight to my device and do everything from there? It says to download the .APK, but I don't see an .APK file anywhere...unless I'm blind. Which would be really sad since I do wear glasses.
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
Sorry, I had to download it again, to see what happened. Anyway, when I downloaded from this page http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/downloads/safestrap/ , it just gave me an .apk. Try to DL it again and see what happens.
[Droid RAZR M General] jase5273:
Downloaded it 3 times, and I keep getting a .zip file. Should I try extracting it to see if I do get an .APK at some point? Other than that... I'm not sure what else to try. I'll try again and update. I tried searching on the link you gave me for some sort of an explanation or to see if anybody else has had that problem, but I guess everyone else has had success. Really tempted to go back to my Thunderbolt. :(

Edit: Found a different link for the .apk file. Gonna copy it to my SD card now and hope for the best.

Edit pt. 2: Followed all of the instructions, but I didn't get the splash screen. Still got nothing for it. Oh well, guess it was worth a try.
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
Okay, nice to see you got the .apk. Once the .apk is installed, you'll need to go into the app itself and choose the option to install recovery. Once the recovery is installed and you reboot the phone, you'll come to a screen that shows "Safestrap is disabled" or something like that. At the bottom, there will be 2 buttons (if I remember correctly, I haven't used SS since April). One button will say "enter recovery" and the other will say "boot normally" or something along those lines. If you don't hit any of the buttons, you will just boot normally and go into your stock ROM. If you do choose to enter recovery, you'll go into a TWRP based recovery menu. If you've ever used TWRP, this is exactly the same. You can run a backup in there, you can restore, you can flash, etc. However, the one thing that is different is setting up a ROM Slot. You'll need to set up a ROM Slot to be able to install a ROM. I always allocated 1gb for my ROMs because I don't use many apps. Some people have reported using 2gbs, but they reported a lot of lag because of the small internal memory of the M. Once you have the slot set up, you can flash to that slot. Don't ever flash over the stock slot. Now that ROM Slot 1 is activated, when you reboot, you will get the Safestrap screen that says SS is activated and you'll boot into your custom ROM. Sorry, I know this is a lot to take in, but here's a couple more links to help out.

Safestrap thread on DR: http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...ery-v31-0104-312-stock-flashing-all-versions/

How to restore a custom ROM over your stock slot: http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/11600-installing-custom-rom-to-stock-using-ss-312/
[Droid RAZR M General] jase5273:
I think I might actually be getting somewhere. I was using 3.11, and that didn't work. Installed 3.12 and I finally saw the screen that I needed to see. However, I forgot to hit the recovery button. LOL. I will try it again and hopefully I can stop bugging you with all my noob questions. LOL.
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
Sometimes you can change a zip to an apk and all is well. Somehow it gets messed with on the way to you.
[Droid RAZR M General] jase5273:
Thank you for that. I didn't even think of that. I actually realized what the issue was and I'm creating a ROM slot now. So, I guess now I can just download whatever ROM I want (stock ROMs, of course, since my bootloader is still locked, and I should be good to go... is that correct?
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
I don't know squat bout ss. Used it once & then unlocked.
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
Yes, just make sure they are SS compatible and make sure the slot is activated. Make a backup prior to doing anything. Also, one thing I forgot about, is the difference in system version. Most of the SS compatible ROMs are 4.1.1 based, you're on 4.1.2. You should be able to get them to flash and boot. However, you might run into issues with the gallery not opening or recognizing your SD card. It's because of the system version. I completely forgot about this, but I ran into this when I last used SS, right before the unlock exploit came out.

Also, keep in mind, if you flash a ROM on slot 1, and it does not boot, just do a hard reset ( pwr, vol-, and vol+) to get the phone to reboot. You'll get the SS screen and just go into recovery, delete the slot, re-activate the slot, and then flash something else.
[Droid RAZR M General] jase5273:
Noted. Thank you again, so much for all of your help. I almost thought I bricked my phone a few minutes ago because I created the ROM slot and tried to reboot... didn't even notice that there's no OS in Slot 1. Duh. But all is well. So thank you again for sticking with me through this. Now that I know what I'm doing... 8 hours later. SMH.
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
That's the good thing about SS, you'll always have the stock ROM there. No problem helping out, we've all been there at one point. My first android device was a Samsung tablet and that thing was easy. This Motorola turd made me do a lot of reading and a lot of learning. If you get to flashing something, let us know what works and what doesn't. Heck, I would make a separate thread about it, as I don't think anyone has come back with feedback about running SS with the new OTA.
[Droid RAZR M General] jase5273:
I posted my issue in another thread, but I guess I'll just continue this one. The ROM that I'm trying to flash... won't flash. I have the ROM on my SD, SafeStrap is working fine. I created the ROM slot 1 with 1GB. I go to install the ROM I downloaded, and it says that it's unable to open the .zip file and then it fails immediately. I've tried clearing data, cache partition, even on the stock recovery. All of this to no avail. Is there a step I'm missing? I followed the steps on this link (http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/11600-installing-custom-rom-to-stock-using-ss-312/) and I'm still not having any luck. Could it possibly be the ROM that I'm using? Or is there a step that I am missing all together?
[Droid RAZR M General] edlentz:
I may have bricked my Razr M

I have a tock Razr M that I decided to install CyanogenMod 10.1 on it. I installed the drivers version 2.3.9 and put the phone in USB debugging. I ran the run.bat file it appeared to work. At the time I didnt know what to look for. I proceeded to flash the recovery image, I got a "image file is not the correct size error. I am stuck at the fastboot screen and it is locked. What can I do now???

Thanks for any help.
[Droid RAZR M General] jco23:
what ROM are you trying to flash?

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when did you get your phone? if after may, then you're probably SOL to unlock the bootloader.
[Droid RAZR M General] edlentz:
I got it I think last november. I was running the stock rom and at version 4.1.2. I have read that that was the version where they locked down. I initially ran the root script and it I think. Is there a way to get back to stock???
[Droid RAZR M General] fargles:
Alright guys, I've tried rooting using two different methods:

motochopper and motofail2go and both yield the same results.

At the very end of the command prompt it says exploit failed, cleaning up *success* however it doesn't root.

I am on 4.1.2

Baseband: SM_BP_101032.020.32.78P

Kernel: 3.0.31-g101ca72

build date: May 24 2013 14:14:53

I have this feels that this current update blocked root and I'm going to have to .sbf. Am I unfortunately right or could it be something else not going right?

I did not wipe phone before trying to root.

Attached is screen cap of the command when it fails.
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
No. Look in gen. Forum For root method work around....

Should be sticked.
[Droid RAZR M General] fargles:
ahh, found it http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2379833 for anyone else that needs it, unless I'm the last person to root here lol
[Droid RAZR M General] treIII:
I am on the latest ota. Just got the phone. I have tried motochopper 1.2 and it says that it was successful after rebooting the phone etc. But when I go to super user it says the su binary is out of date. So I tap ok to update the su binary and it says failed. Can someone help? Thanks

Sent from my HTCONE using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
You need ver 112 See prev post.
[Droid RAZR M General] treIII:
I got it taken care of earlier. Thanks for reply. I just kept trying with no luck. Then I went to stock recovery and formatted then rebooted and it worked. Don't know why. But it's all great now. Trying to find a custom Rom to use with safe strap.

Sent from my HTCONE using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45514324#post45514324
[Droid RAZR M General] Dominus_69:
RAZR M Rooting failure

I'm having the same problem, factory reset then tried "motofail2go" and "motochopper". Neither worked. This is a new phone. I bricked my last one dinking with ROMTOOLBOX trying to change some icons or something silly like that. Anyhow, I have a replacement, same model from Verizon and can't root it to save my rear. Any suggestions or clues out there ?
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
Motofail was for 4.1.1. Look for Motochopper 1.3 to root the most current 4.1.2 it's over on Droidrzr.com.
[Droid RAZR M General] sloosecannon:
Motochopper 1.2*
[Droid RAZR M General] RikRong:
It was updated to 1.3. ;)

http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...oot-razr-m-xt907-for-locked-devices-on-91878/
[Droid RAZR M General] sloosecannon:
Oh so it was. Carry on...
[Droid RAZR M General] FirePsych:
Thank You!

Used the method in the OP about 6 times.

I'm on the April release with 4.1.2.

This worked the first time.

Whew!
[Droid RAZR M General] rtgnj42:
Question: the batch file is where you find the instructions, correct? when i open it on my computer it just displays the directory I opened it from. There are no instructions. I can't figure out what to do.
[Droid RAZR M General] r3flux:
For those of us on the 98.30.1 update there is currently no working Root exploit. Stuck with out root and a locked bootloader. I hate this!
[Droid RAZR M General] Gblake13:
Me too. Is there a devoted even working on it?
[Droid RAZR M General] dbreed53:
Thanks!

Thanks! My RAZR M is on 4.1.2, BUT, has Sys. Ver. 98.30.1.XT907.Verizon.en.US AND Build # 9.8.1Q-94-1, so I can probably not apply anything useful, but I was able to ROOT the phone, which I confirmed with "Root Browser" and "Simple Root Checker".

I am able to see all the ROOT folders with Root Browser.

SimpleRoot Checker reports "Terminal does Rooted" and "Busybox not installed"

Now, I will do a factory reset to see what build/Sys Ver I have.

It is a new phone that replaced my STOLEN RAZR XT912 that I was QUITE fond of.

I have had issues with this device and have another refurbished, replacement XT907 sitting next to it with;

9.8.1Q-78-1 that should also have 4.1.2 on it.

Before I send this 1st one back, what should I do to unroot it?