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[Desire General] simon12:
Right guys - thanks! (Sorry k3lcior - I'm limited to 8 thanks per day apparently).

I'm think that's my project this evening. Hopefully I won't be on here asking stupid questions if I get all confused but it does seem pretty straightforward when you put it like that.
[Desire General] jmcclue:
did it for ya lol

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] simon12:
One more question - I only see d/l for Linux or Windows. I assume there's no Mac version? (I have a windows partition on my mac so it's not a huge problem).
[Desire General] k3lcior:
There is no MAC version, you need to install it under windows.

Also dont forget about Fastboot drivers before you run the revolutionary tool, link here - http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
[Desire General] simon12:
Guys, I will be honest and say that this is turning into more of a farce than I thought possible. There are soooo many guides, info and contradictions in all those guides. What appears to be such an easy path is causing more headaches than I can be bothered with. In one guide I read that if I have used any tricks (which I have) to force apps2sd then undo them. I would not have a clue how to do this.

I already had HTC sync on the PC so I removed it as suggested.

I tried to run the fastboot drivers and I have no idea if they did run. I tried to use the revolutionary tool by extracting it and double clicking the exe file but all I got was a command window that did not allow me to enter the betakey and simply disappeared after a few seconds.

If I can't even get this far then how am I supposed to be able to do this?

It all seems far too complicated unless someone can explain just what is going on.

FYI - I am using a windows emulator on a mac, windows XP via parallels.
[Desire General] colin_404:
The phone part is easy, getting the computer to run Revolutionary in a vm not so sure.

Did u try running the exe as administrator?
[Desire General] simon12:
I assume so as I have only one account on there and I can add/delete programs, etc at will. TBH I hardly ever use the Windows partition. I think it was last opened about a year ago.

Is there no way to root, etc my phone using a mac???
[Desire General] colin_404:
U could try the Ubuntu live cd, I now know that u get it for mac.
[Desire General] pandashoe:
this is what i did to root then put a rom on mine it was quite painless after i get over the this is more hassle than its worth part of it like you are now lol

HTC Desire Rooting

root useing revoluitonary 0.4pre4 dont forget to get the code from the web site thats should give you S-OFF in the bootloader

revolutionary.io

install superuser then get Titanium Backup backup your current apps

do a Nandroid Backup from recovery then backup and restore-backup

then makesure you wipe, data/factory reset

choose a rom, download it,

on recovery choose " install zip from sd-card", find the rom and select it, wait for it to install, and,

you have a new rom on your phone.

All you have to do next is restore your apps by downloading titanium backup from the apps store

enjoy
[Desire General] simon12:
Is there a guide somewhere for that? Where would I get that from? I can have a google later but just about to run out of the house.
[Desire General] simon12:
I have managed to geta hold of an old PC laptop to try again and do this. Having read on http://androidforums.com/desire-all...ff-root-htc-desire-revolutionary-updated.html that I need to setup ADB & fastboot, I went to http://androidforums.com/desire-all...ff-root-htc-desire-revolutionary-updated.html and am again totaly confused. Do I actually need to do all this? I thought if I just s-off, root & partition I'm good to go. What is ADB and fastboot all about. I may as well be reading Chinese. Help anyone please???
[Desire General] k3lcior:
You need ADB/Fastboot for flashing custom HBOOT's and other "advanced" stuff (there are also different methods, you dont need that) if you feel to you can do it another time it's not required.

Just skip it, jesus u freaking out so much even if you screw up its nearly impossible to brick the device. (well unless you unplug your phone in middle of S-OFF process or flashing radio)
[Desire General] simon12:
I'm probably freaking out more because the PC I borrowed is so sh*t that it is taking ten times as long to do anything. It's still trying to install HTC Sync and it's been at that for 30 minutes plus it takes forever to open a web page and it's connected directly to a broadband modem via a cable.
[Desire General] simon12:
OK - another question as I go thru this: I came across this section:

ADDING CUSTOM RECOVERY

6) it's time to install your recovery file.

a) Boot into fastboot mode (from off, volume-up and power or volume-down and power then cycle to fastboot option)

b) Connect phone to PC through USB. You should see "FASTBOOT USB" on your phones screen.

c) Open CMD (Start > Run > type "cmd" and press enter)

d) Type "fastboot flash recovery c:\your recovery file name" where c:\your recovery file name is the exact location and name of the recovery file you downloaded.

I'm not sure now whether what you said above refers to this part of the process or if I can still skip getting that stuff and do this section. Or is there another way or is there something else I should do instead?

Also - what does this mean??: c:\your recovery file name is the exact location and name of the recovery file you downloaded.
[Desire General] simon12:
...and assuming I get that far(!) can someone suggest a good, safe, reliable rom for me to download and install? Anything from GB upwards, preferable ICS if it's stable and all the bits work. Thanks.
[Desire General] k3lcior:
You can skip that too, after you S-OFF youll get CWM recovery use it to flash the superuser package, reboot into your current ROM and install 4ext recovery.
[Desire General] simon12:
OK - I have put the Superuser zip file onto the sd card. Want to now run Revolutionary to s-off but I have a question that I cannot find the answer to:

Do I have the phone in its normal state to run this? If so, it is attached via a USB to the PC but do I have it set as a disk drive or not?
[Desire General] k3lcior:
Dont mount disk drive, make sure htc sync is uninstalled and fastboot drivers installed.
[Desire General] jmcclue:
charge only
[Desire General] simon12:
I just get a flash of the cmd window (which is blank) after I try to run the exe file. No way I can input the serial no/betakey or whatever.
[Desire General] simon12:
htc sync installed then uninstalled on pc

fastboot driver was installed from http://downloads.unrevoked.com/HTCDriver3.0.0.007.exe
[Desire General] simon12:
debugging still selected - is that ok?
[Desire General] jmcclue:
yes debugging needs be enabled

the revolutionary file u downloaded, extract it (extract to revolutionary-0.4pre4/) then in that folder double click revolutionary
[Desire General] simon12:
That's exactly what I am doing. Just redid it in case but same result.

I am extracting the entire revolutionary folder to a new folder called downloads/revolutionary-0.4pre4 then dbl click on revolutionary.exe to run it, click on run and i get a second's flash of a cmd window, then nothing.

debugging is on.
[Desire General] colin_404:
Try right click on the exe and run as administrator
[Desire General] jmcclue:
strange. ur using windows aint ya? did u download revolutionary for windows?
[Desire General] simon12:
definately
[Desire General] k3lcior:
Redownload the revolutionary tool, maybe it was interrupted.
[Desire General] jmcclue:
Download this (for windows) extract to revolutionary-0.4pre\

then in the folder double click revolutionary

i know this 1 works cos i just tried it and it said waiting for device
[Desire General] simon12:
Tried to right click - just get one option which is the person logged in (not me as it's not my pc) the pc has been recently totally reset and so I assume the current user is also the admin as it's the only account on there
[Desire General] simon12:
will do - may take a small while as I need to reconnect the stupid pc to my internet!(i'm typing on my mac)
[Desire General] simon12:
d/l it. Same problem. it's now of course named revolutionary-0.4pre4 (1) because the other one is still there but i doubt that makes a difference.

It MUST be this sh*t pc which is so slow it's like treacle.
[Desire General] simon12:
..and this is exactly the same problem though that I had last night when I tried to run this file using the vm version of windows on my mac so maybe it's something else.
[Desire General] jmcclue:
hmm very strange. what files are in the folder? there should be 6

AdbWinApi.dll

libcurl-4.dll

libjson-0.dll

mgwz.dll

msvcr71.dll

revolutionary
[Desire General] simon12:
that's correct
[Desire General] simon12:
Just a thought - is this an XP thing? Both the pc and my vm version are xp
[Desire General] jmcclue:
id say u will have to try and use another windows pc
[Desire General] simon12:
ooh - I have just tried my vm machine on my mac as a last ditch effort - and the window stays open!!!

Gonna shift a few filers over to that machine and go for it! Dunno why it never worked last night though.
[Desire General] jmcclue:
and does the window say waiting for device etc etc?
[Desire General] k3lcior:
No offense but if you cant simply run an .exe file then you probably shouldnt do this.
[Desire General] simon12:
yes! Just hooking things up now. My vm has had htc sync installed and uninstalled. gonna check that device manager sees the bootloader then should be good to go.
[Desire General] simon12:
...and we're away. "zerging root" whatever that is.

Right - hopefully plain sailing from here. Thanks all. Although it's been 'taking a minute or so ' for about 5 minutes. Hope that's ok.
[Desire General] simon12:
Mate, I have 10 years of history with windows computers and I well know how to run an exe file. If I dbl click on something and it doesn't work, then finally does I have no idea why. So no offense taken but in all honesty I don't think anyone else here was any the wiser as to the problem.
[Desire General] jmcclue:
it should ask to install clockworkmod recovery. choose yes
[Desire General] simon12:
I wish it would move on from taking a minute or so. And I don't want to pull anything at this stage as I'm aware of the damage it might do. How long should this take, this zerging root bit?
[Desire General] jmcclue:
lol my laptop is old and retarded and i only know too well that things sometimes just dont work. thats why iv created threads on how to install/flash things via PB99IMG

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really cant remember but just wait
[Desire General] simon12:
phone is telling me it's safe to remove the sd card ???
[Desire General] jmcclue:
what does the revolutionary window say?
[Desire General] simon12:
hasn't changed. not frozen tho as the cursor blinks.
[Desire General] jmcclue:
i would just wait then n see what happens

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any change?

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] simon12:
I pulled it ages ago. No change. Googled and found others have had same problem. Some put it down to htc sync, others to virus scanners, etc. I've done everything i can do. I suspect htc sync is still running in there somewhere but I am buggered if Iknow where. I've gone back to the laptop as the vm machine refused to load the hboot driver so I never got to see the bootloader in devices. That could be why it never got past zerging.

I'm about to chuck it all in. It all seems just too hard although it also seems quite easy. Maybe I need access to a better pc, maybe I'm just unlucky. I have no idea. I might try the alpharev unrevoked way of doing it later in the week but I've had enough.

Thanks for the help.
[Desire General] abaaaabbbb63:
You have to uninstall htc sync, but not it's drivers. Use the "programs and features" in control pannel.

I think this is the slowest rooting process anybody has ever done.

:)
[Desire General] jmcclue:
yh this is a bit of a balls now. what u should try is a windows pc (not vm) if u cant then i suggest deleting everything HTC installed on computer, reboot it then install the drivers only. u can get the drivers from bortaks guide in my sig

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] pandashoe:
did you install the andriod drivers in the device manager on the pc?
[Desire General] k3lcior:
You just made this x10 more complicated than it actually is...
[Desire General] simon12:
Well, I'm awake now after a very loong night of no success.

So, for the most part I was trying this operation on a PC (not my vm machine) running XP. The machine is very, very slow but does work. The machine is owned by my friend next door and he had recently wiped it and reset it to fresh, so much so that when we switched it on it asked for the warranty registration info.

I installed HTC sync on it, then removed JUST the HTC sync program using control panel - add/remove programs. I left the HTC drivers and something else HTC on there.

I successfully installed the android drivers on the pc. When I went into device manager I could see the Bootloader come up under Android Phone so that bit did work:good:

When I went to run revolutionary, I did everything as per the guides (it's not brain surgery) but when I tried to run the exe file, the cmd window would flash up and then disappear. I did manage to get the cmd window to run on my vm machine funnily enough but then it simply didn't move on as per earlier posts. One thing though, when I went back to trying to run revolutionary on the proper pc, I managed to see a quick flash in the window that there was a confliction with HTC sync. So that is my suspicion but I did delete it all properly. Now, I did find HTC sync also on the phone. I then deleted the app as well in case that was causing a problem but it made no difference.

SO - I think it's htc sync. I can TRY and wipe all htc stuff off and give it another go. The only way Iknow how to do that is Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs unless someone has a better way. Should there be any reference to HTC Sync on my phone as well?

You are right - this must be the longest anyone has tried to root the friggin phone - and not been successful!

I am willing to have another go but I may also try the alpharev/unrevoked way of doing it. Perhaps that will work. Just need the time to do it all again.
[Desire General] jmcclue:
u know in device manager it says Android phone, u have to right click it and update driver and manualy install fastboot drivers then it will say android bootloader interface, click the desire all things root guide in my sig, and look at s-off with revolutionary, theres a step by step there with a link for the drivers

Sent from my HTC Desire

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http://androidforums.com/desire-all...ry-windows-published-4th-november-2011-a.html

here u go, read this .

this is probably why it didnt work, revolutionary needs to boot into fastboot so if drivers aint there then it cant complete

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] simon12:
I know people are no doubt shaking their heads in disbelief, but this is where it gets confusing and contradictary.

So, I said earlier that I did manage to load the hboot drivers as it showed the bootloader under Android Phone in Dev Mgr. I figured that was what I needed to do.

I did read all the stuff about fastboot, etc here: http://androidforums.com/desire-all...fastboot-windows-updated-1st-june-2011-a.html and when I asked in an earlier post whether I needed all this I was told not to bother as that could be added later and I didn't really need it. "You need ADB/Fastboot for flashing custom HBOOT's and other "advanced" stuff (there are also different methods, you dont need that) if you feel to you can do it another time it's not required."

SO - what is the difference between the fast boot drivers anf hboot drivers? Is is the same thing?? When it showed bootloader in Dev Mgr, did that mean I had installed hboot, fastboot or what? You see folks, I said in my very first post that there is always an amount of assumed knowledge. I don't wish to appear rude or ungrateful because I am not. However there are so many guides that link to so many other guides that in the end the result is you go around in circles - otherwise known to you as a bootloop??

Can you please explain what you mean when you say "u know in device manager it says Android phone, u have to right click it and update driver and manualy install fastboot drivers then it will say android bootloader interface," because I always took this to mean hboot drivers.

I can assure you I haven't made this 10x harder than it needs to be.
[Desire General] jmcclue:
yh hboot/fastboot drivers same thing. ok go look here it explains how to install them and what i mean when i said right click andriod phone and manualy install drivers

Sent from my HTC Desire

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http://androidforums.com/desire-all...ing-unrevoked-windows-updated-14-04-11-a.html

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] simon12:
Under "Install the hboot Drivers", those steps are what I took. The only differencve is, probably because XP is maybe a bit different to what OS that was written around, the steps after right clicking on Android 1.0 are that the Wizard comes up and wants to search automatically which I declined, went into Advanced and ticked the box to allow me to browse for the drivers myself. Located the Android USB folder and it all went in from there. The Bootloader showed up on the Dev Mgr as being there under Android Phone.

From what I have said here, can you see anything that I have missed because it all seems too easy and I followed those steps to the letter. Can I uninstall the drivers and start again, although I can't see it being any different.
[Desire General] k3lcior:
Install htc sync for drivers, uninstall htc sync (keep drivers), install fastboot drivers from revolutionary website, have phone in debug mode, run revolutionary tool.

Simple as that, i have no idea what took you entire night whole process takes about 5-10min if you did it correctly.

If it doesnt work you didnt installed drivers correctly or you're running a2sd ROM.
[Desire General] simon12:
Yes, that is exactly what I did. In order I did this:

Installed/Uninstalled HTC Sync.

Installed hboot drivers SUCCESSFULLY so that I got the Bootloader on Dev Mgr.

Put the Super User zip onto the sd card, ready for later.

Had phone on, debugging on, set to charge only, plugged into pc: extracted and ran the revolutionary exe and.....cmd window flashed on for a second then off - each and every time.

It is easy - when it works! I will give it another go after resetting everything. I'll also make sure that the pc has no virus scanning and no firewall as I read that can affect the running of the revolutionary as well.

I ASSUME THAT REVOLUTIONARY IS SUPPORTED BY XP???? Just a thought?
[Desire General] k3lcior:
Try to run .exe with administrator rights and different compatibility modes.

I have no idea who is still running XP.

Also AFAIK you dont need to put the phone in "charge only" mode, just connect and leave it god damn.
[Desire General] simon12:
Aaaah - I did do something to the phone about a year ago that allowed me to use apps2sd. I saw it on a forum here or somewhere and it worked well enough that I was able to move lots of things across. If that's the problem, then how do I disable it or just wipe the phone and start again?
[Desire General] k3lcior:
Wipe and remove ext partition if you have 1 on SD, you make that later.
[Desire General] simon12:
It was in admin rights as I was signed into his account and he is listed as the Admin.

I was told in an earlier post that the phone HAD to be in charge mode not disk drive when running revolutionary. More damn contradictions!! You can see where it all gets confusing?
[Desire General] jmcclue:
have usb debugging enabled and mount as disk drive, try that. i thought it was charge only but i could of been wrong.

if u just plug in ur phone and just leave it then the setting on ur phone r set to charge only but ask me when connected r something like that.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] simon12:
This is what I did to the phone lastyear. A tip supplied by SuRoot on androidforums.com:

http://androidforums.com/desire-tip...ore-most-apps-sd-without-root-simplified.html

It worked and has kept the phone working longer than without it. Now, is this causing me a problem and if so can you suggest the best way to undo it or am I really just best off wiping the phone back to factory reset. BTW, if I do that, will I still have 2.2 and will I still have the same hboot as it was on eclair when I got it.
[Desire General] simon12:
Mine always defaults to disk drive and you have to manually select charge.

Looks like we may be narrowing this all down.
[Desire General] jmcclue:
lol mine is always set to charge in all roms i used.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] simon12:
Right - I give up. I tried two thing:

1. restored my vm machine to a point before I started all this. Trouble is, I can't for some reason make it accept the hboot driver. Each time I go to update the drivers it greys out the ok button when I start to select any folders from the c drive. It never comes back on again until I abort the whole thing and try again but with the same result so obviously that machine is no good to me.

2. I started again with the old pc laptop but got to the same point of running revolutionary and again the cmd window flashes on and off. I DO HAVE a HTCSync icon in the systray that I cannot get rid of, however it has a cross thru it because I have uninstaled sync and left the following: HTC BMP USB Driver and HTC Driver Installer.

As I say, I have done everything right and it soimply does not work.

There is still the question of whether I reset the phone from scratch and start again but that doesn'e explain why the cmd window won't stay on, whether the phone is connected or not.

Yes, I installed hboot, yes I get Bootloader showing in device manager. Yes I installed and uninstalled htc sync. Yes the phone has debugging on. It was left as a disk drive this time. Yes the phone was turned on and plugged in. Yes I installed the HTC drivers from revolutionary website (HTC Driver 3.0.0.007) or at least I dble cicked the .exe file so I assume it's installed. I can't think of anything I haven't done right.

I give up.
[Desire General] jmcclue:
everything u said here is right, and as u say its the revolutionary command window, i dunno why it wont stay open. everything else is correct and ready to go. reboot computer and try revolutionary again, thats all i can think of coz uv everything else done. like yesterday it just worked out of the blue

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] simon12:
I did do this from the pc after it was fully rebooted. I think I now want to boot it out of the door but hey ho.

If I went down the alphrev/unrevoked root, would that work? It was what I was going to do before the revolutionary thing was suggested.
[Desire General] k3lcior:
Both works just fine, if you do it correctly.