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[Atrix 4G Android Development] sms2000:
You could ruin capacitors in the voltage regulation module or other components. Now your phone may work at lesser clocks but is too unstable at higher.

There are no Tegra2 phones default clocked above 1.2GHz (some Chinese phone).

When you use OC kernel the phone boots at the top clock without thermal protection. My Atrix simply fails to boot at 1.45GHz.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] eddhard:
Just to add to the confusion. I've been running 21-10 build for a while now. Its pretty stable with very few reboots and temp stays around 40 deg c. International 1100
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Moonshield:
I ran the 21/10 version for some days, with no reboots what-so-ever, but lousy battery life (around 5 hours) and excessive overheating, even in deep-sleep mode. However, had no screen tearing or weird screen coloration, just a lazy wake-up from deep sleep or after a phone call. And for some weird reason, I miss too many notifications, not sure if it was me or the rom...

Anyway, I reverted back to epinter's CM10, at least until the battery life/overheating will behave better.

:cowboy:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] consolation:
My temp with JB was about 37~43ºC, few degrees more when actively using the phone. Until it would spontaneously climb with about 20º/min delta, then reboot around 60ºC. With GB/CM7 my idle is in high 20s, low ~ mid 30s operating temperature. Ambient temperature indoors is about 18ºC, bit warmer in my pocket. :rolleyes:

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Here is something I noticed, when using System Panel I can see gingerbread putting one core to sleep when load is low.

This NEVER happened with the leaked ROM, even if CPU spy showed deep sleep working.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] francescod:
I'm monitoring the cpu activity on CNA 3.6.6 and I see that 2nd cpu never goes sleep...we should try to see how it works with a "standard" Cm10 by Epinter or even a Cm9 with the latest kernel done by faux.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Moonshield:
On epinter's latest CM10 I got the following CPU behaviour.

I'm using the 1.3Ghz kernel that epinter made for this version, with max freq 1ghz, and a screen-off profile at 800mhz max freq. As can be seen, I got most of the CPU-time in offline, where the 2nd core is mostly either offline or at max freq.

Hope it helps...

:cowboy:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] consolation:
Seems the problem is with the leak kernel.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Yes, we know. Problem is that we don't have source. That why there is few project and guys who trying to port, make new version of kernel...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nghiemlong:
How could you wait for 1day :(. I could not get it work.

Finally I get it works:

Turn on auto-sync first. Once you have sync some emails, it will works even you turn off auto sync.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] consolation:
Is that the royal WE? There have been a number of proposed causes for over heating. Faulty ril libs being the one devs point to most. I got thermal runaway even in airplane mode. If the kernel is not able to control the most basic power management it's next to useless in the long run. That leaves a new kernel from sources or binary patching.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jjwatmyself:
Nice and sleepy over here on epinter 1026
[Atrix 4G Android Development] eddhard:
I get deep sleep and my second core shuts down when not in use. I'm now getting about 10 hours regular use.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] consolation:
On the leaked kernel?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] eddhard:
Yes I'm using the 21-10 build. I've been lucky with my matrix and had very few problems with custom ROMs. I had a lot of reboots with previous builds but cm10 21-10 is my daily driver. The only real issue I have is the xda app crashes a lot.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] attrixnor:
to resume , the new libs or like kernel is too buggy to use the atrix normally :(

is there any news about the lg source adaptation?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] consolation:
@eddhard, what governor are you using? In something like system panel you can see CPU1 go into sleep mode while CPU0 is running, not just deep sleep, which is different?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] eddhard:
I'm using the on demand governor.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ebswift:
Back to epinter's for me. It's looking more and more likely that we won't get stability until we see a ported kernel :/. This one was *almost* there, but simple issues like being unable to hangup after a call due to the screen staying black are showstoppers. It's especially bad when you reach someone's message bank and don't want to leave a message - so you have to quickly pull the battery. I'll jump right back on board if there's anything that can be resolved here though.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Cocolopes:
I need testers

Well I was bored and searching in xda I found this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1584508

Flash the file and in terminal type SU and then CPU...and some option appears.

I use it to make my CPU1 sleep...and it works.

I can set individual governors to the cores. I use conservative for CPU0 and conservative for CPU1...and disable the option FORCE DUAL CORE...and the one that says STICKY MODE...(I realy dont know what is).

Well maybe is a placebo effect but I think may phone it less warm.

I just have to know how to see if the second core its running or not when I use a game or something.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] eddhard:
Interesting find. I'll be having a look at this in the morning.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nghiemlong:
How can we make the camera capture 16:9 image like GB?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Cocolopes:
Can you tell me if there is a way to see if my CPU1 is working or not? I mean...I see is in sleep but I dont know if is active when I need it...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] andrea_marcello:
I want to try but the download link on post is broken,can you link a mirror?Thanks
[Atrix 4G Android Development] prabhuthelegend:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g9zcnni3sm04zh1/CPU_Editor_RLS_4.zip
[Atrix 4G Android Development] eddhard:
Try system tuner. I think this should go in an apps thread though as it is a little off topic.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sms2000:
I recently uploaded my own overlay APK In Epinter thread (post #4510).

The APK shows "always on" overlay window with CPU temp, clock and on.off status.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] andrea_marcello:
I try with your same option for governor of cpu, set max clock speed at 812 and min to 214, force dual core disabled but not sticky mode:

the result is a phone more cold, but the same battery drain :rolleyes:

I haven't reboot, on 23 build
[Atrix 4G Android Development] clemare:
I run this rom today until 15.00 hours. It runs really cold and most ofthe time in deep sleep (when display is off), but the battery drain is the same as "that" ROM. So the conclusion is, this kernel uses a lot of battery:

Not the wifi (because I use juice defender)

Not the 3G (same reason as above)

Not th CPU (deep sleep works)

So what left is... video chipset

Yes, all the accelerated by hardware is being used by the Jelly Bean, and our chipset is not prepared to be ALWAYS on. The fact is I read that our video chipset is enabled only when needed, but this rom was designed to be always accelerated. The only solution is have the source code to deactivate HWA when you are using normal stuff... but as far as we know, that is not an option.

:(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Cocolopes:
Can we make a hwa blacklist in buildprop to let the user define wich app use hwa?

from the (m)ATRIX...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] attrixnor:
good information,

perhaps we can compare with a consuption software the atrix with stock rom and with new libs roms to checks when the system drain the battery ?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Moonshield:
mmmmmmm,

Is it only me, or it looks like Bugs Bunny has left the building?

;)

(This is not a complaint or a demand for an eta, just a note....)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] quetzalcoatl2435:
There's nothing new to build. All these builds were taken from epinter's github, and he has stopped development on JB with these new libs pending a kernel port.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Bert.C:
Im sure i saw in one of the roms ive tried, maybe epinters cm10 theres an app that lets you select what uses hwa and what doesnt...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Moonshield:
10x!

That was my thoughts. So as for now we have a cm10 version where practically everything works, but the power usage and heat emitted are poor, am I right?

Does anyone here use this build as their daily driver? I tried the 21/10 build for several days and found it to be really difficult to use daily...

:cowboy:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] julian_fern:
Been using 21/10 since it came out, since i lost my USB cable. Have to charge it everyday, but aside from that, it works well. No random reboot or anything, but there is the black screen call bug that makes me mad sometime...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Cocolopes:
Can you provide the build prop and the app? I will try to use it.

Same here...my battery drains to 65% in 6 hs with the phone in idle...:(

from the (m)ATRIX...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] clemare:
Almost right. The only problem is wirlth battery.... the heat is not a problem anymore.

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That could work, but what I think is the kernel maintain active the HWA even when it is not needed. But we can try....

Anyone knows a program to monitor the HWA chipset? If we can control that, it is possible to force when shutting off that part of the hardware
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Manzing:
I think this is what you're looking for, from the EPinter CM10 rom.

it adds an hardware acceleration support by app in parameters / Specific options (not sure for "specific", i'm using french ver).

Don't know if this will work though. :o
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Cocolopes:
I just go back to GB...so someone has to try for me....sorry and thanks

from the (m)ATRIX...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] eddhard:
I'll give it a shot. I'll report back later.

Maybe not. Check the screen shot.information
[Atrix 4G Android Development] consolation:
That's odd...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] eddhard:
I don't trust it. It asks for too many odd permissions. I apologise if it is legit but I have reported the post.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Zeljko1234:
What are you talking about. Hwa setting apk? Of course that ask too many permissions :rolleyes:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] clemare:
Don't worry, this comes as part of epinters rom. We trust in him.

You can try epinters rom to see by yourself. ;)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Hairo The Blue Mage:
what gapps should i use with this builds? the 4.1.2 from epinter works?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ticiano_arraes:
Yes
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Starbomba:
Considering it has the ability to turn on and off the HW acceleration of every other apk on the phone, the permissions seem fair enough. Plus it was made by a trusted dev, and i haven't had any issues with any of his ROMs.

Sent from my Atrix 4G on epinter's CM10
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Manzing:
I picked these files out of last Epinter's rom, and if you don't trust, don't install... i just did it to help.

I've tried myself and installed it on someones CM10, and it does not work (no new settings available in parameters), even if i add Epinter HWA related lines in build.prop. :mad:

Besides, I've removed many things from the rom like lucky patcher, and other odds stuff, add Atrix tweaks and configured it, set many parameters and the phone is colder than before, and the battery life seems to be improved.

Though I have this horrible bug that prevent me to put phone in sleep mode, automatically or manually, it always reboot after... :(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] eddhard:
I've now tried it. There are no files to actually tell the system what the build.prop is pointing to. Hwblacklist lines don't mean anything to the system.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ingelectronico:
This seems an excellent suggestion, and I would like to know, which are the apps that require hwa to work? For sure camera is one, and the only one I am concerning about.

Thanks in advance.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] clemare:
That has sense... if you can stop some hardware from an APK, it have to have an interface to pick the request at kernel level. This kernel is from you know who, and the interface doesn't have to exist at all.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] eddhard:
You miss under stand me. Now I know the source I extracted it and compared the files I can confirm it is epinters. There is more needed to enable it than a build.prop edit.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ravilov:
Gee guys, ease down on paranoia... :rolleyes: :p
[Atrix 4G Android Development] eddhard:
Even paranoid people have enemies.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Lokifish Marz:
I am not sure about any of the leaks/releases after the 20th but I do know where the other ones came from and the reason why they would match epinter's builds. I will not say where they came from but will say they didn't come from epinter.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] amelor:
Anyone more has the bug with 456 mhz cpu limit? Ive installed fresh rom on clean phone and after a while stack with 456mhz limit, it is annoying. I tryed setcpu, flash pds, and no results. Only solution is to clear cache and dalvik cache but after a while the same bug, rom is clear without any apps only cpu spy.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] andrea_marcello:
Rom control

Hi guys, on upndwn4par thread of his rom rom appear that there's an apk in system called NvCPLSvc.apk : i try to install and select balanced energy on settings and my battery jump by 10 hours to 15.

I have opened the apk and I see thatt there's something maybe interesting:

first of all a file called libnvcontrol_jni.so, and other files.

I don't know if there anything usable. I hope so ;)

PS: I try to install it on this rom but without success :(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] :
I can't get the phone to post with the 1.3Ghz kernel and this cm10 ... I wonder why? any reason? Can u direct me to a kernel that works on cm10 and is above 1Ghz?

This kernel kernel_oc1300-cm10-20121026_1456-epinter-olympus doesn't work with cm-10-20121023-UNOFFICIAL-olympus

Is there anyway to use ethernet on JellyBean phone? Like micro usb to ethernet female would be awesome for my line of work in networking so I won't require a laptop when I'm on site.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Probably your SoC could not handle 1,3GHz. Why do you need more than 1 GHz? It produces more heat, drains battery, shortens chip life and many other components like wlan, bluetooth and digitizer.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] :
Because the kernel works fine on 10-29 cm10 but not this 10-23 one. This kernel kernel_oc1300-cm10-20121026_1456-epinter-olympus doesn't work with cm-10-20121023-UNOFFICIAL-olympus. It works fine on the 10-29 cm10 rom though.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Because one kernel is for CM10 with "those libs" and another (overclocked) is for CM10 with old libs.

Anyway, overclocking is bad idea. As described above...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] :
Could u link me to the kernel that works on cm-10-20121023-UNOFFICIAL-olympus? The main reason is to have the ability to modify voltages and the stock 10-23 kernel doesn't allow it... I'm going to run at 1Ghz max so its not like I don't know anything about overclocking, I'm an overclocking king. I just want to dial in the voltages bro...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Unfortunately there is no such kernel for CM10 with "those libs". This kernels is closed source and that's the biggest problem right now. If you follow Atrix's threads you should know it already ;)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] RaiderDuck:
Just installed this ROM today. Biggest improvement I've seen already: Unlike AOKP, CNA, Paranoid Android or MIUI, this ROM actually shows the album thumbnails on Spotify. They must require HWA or something.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] :
Battery drain seems excessive it's crazy as I can just watch 1% go down ever 30 seconds or so it's pretty intense I mean we might be talking about a good 2-4 hours of use per charge on the cm10-10-23...

Can someone just post a perfect working flashable zip for the Ramfix? Make it easier for us all to gain damn near 100MB of ram...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] eddhard:
There is no such thing. The ram fix need specific info from your phone. Its very easy to do.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] RaiderDuck:
It's theoretically possible, but it would have to be a pretty complicated script to tweeze your phone's information (which can be different in Recovery than the OS proper), place it in the correct location and then run. I suspect the Devs in these forums could do it, but they'd probably want some $$$ to offset the days of work they'd miss coding the thing.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] THUNDERASS:
Anybody still working on cm10 with new library or kernel? We dont have any update for 2 weeks
[Atrix 4G Android Development] clemare:
Nope... nobody. "Those libs" are from a Leak. Nobody have the source code, so you will not see any improvements, only hacks that enable one or two things.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Yeah, I think it's the end of the line for the Atrix, seriously. I said I wouldn't mind helping test stuff still, but it doesn't look like there will be much to test. I don't know if I've said it enough but I can't wait until I get the Nexus 4. Anyways, theres really not much we can do with all of this. We got a leak. We need either a newer leak (doubtful) or a leak of source code (extremely doubtful). If you're stuck with the Atrix, just be happy with what you have. Everything runs pretty nice really, even the camera works really well. As long as you charge your Atrix when ever you can you're fine. You could always go back to Gingerbread, but I don't know who would do that after trying Jellybean or even Moto's ICS leak.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] RaiderDuck:
If we never have a fully functional ICS or JB with HWA for the Atrix (despite the best efforts of some awesome Devs), let's remember why: Because Motorola lied to us and refused to support their own product (even after selling the Atrix based on a specific pledge to keep its OS current), because they'd rather blackmail us into buying a new Motorola phone. We can't do anything about the first part, but we can darn well remember which manufacturer did this to us when it's time to buy another phone. BOYCOTT MOTOROLA!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
I 100% agree. Hopefully at the least nobody on the Atrix subforum will ever buy from Motorola. From now on I'm doing straight Nexus devices and that's it. I honestly can't trust any Android smartphone manufacturer besides Google. We all know there's never been a terrible Nexus device. Every one of them was liked, I doubt that will ever change. It's funny too because this isn't even the first time I've had trouble with Motorola, I've had trouble before they even did Android. But I trusted them and that was the mistake. Anyways, I will NEVER trust them again.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] attrixnor:
hum ...

i just buy a atrix, because it's the actual best hardware/price and i think i can live with GB too :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] cb5264:
It is just plain annoying to see features/apps everywhere you cannot use...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Zeljko1234:
May I ask what you are trying to accomplish with your pessimistic posts in Atrix forum? We know that you're getting Nexus 4. Do you wish that everyone else should follow your path?

Here you said that you will donate your Atrix. Did you contact mmontuori?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ravilov:
Well...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33709872#post33709872
[Atrix 4G Android Development] attrixnor:
i agree with Zeljko1234, go for a nexus 4 if you want , google is pure commercial , ok you have more function but there are new bug and security hole too. as linux user i prefer having a old os with good security and that work correctly as a new os with problem ...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] consolation:
So you are going to punish Google for cancelling our update by only buying the product they have highest margins on. Makes perfect sense...

Just so you don't forget: Motorola promises update, Google buys Moto, Moto cancels update. Google bought the company for their patent portfolio, they don't care if the brand gets driven into the ground. Hell, it seems to have driven people like you into buying their premium Nexus product, Google will be laughing all the way to the bank...

F**K Google...

Irony is, since I'm going back to iOS, I'll probably keep my Atrix far longer than I would if android was going to still be my primary phone OS. Spare phones don't get upgrades much. So, here's hoping someone manages to compile a working kernel.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] DannyBiker:
Exactly, if you really want to screw the peole who cancelled your update, go with WP8 (it's what I'll do) or iOS.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Uhh, you really found better, both with closed source. Apple is probably another reason why Atrix ICS is canceled, fingerprint.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] DannyBiker:
I'm not saying it's good or bad, everyone is free to do whatever he/she wants. I'm just saying that saying you're going to buy a Nexus to punish Motorola is a stupid move as it is Google who cancelled the update. So people who do so will just do exactly what Google wants you to do : buy a new Android phone...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Zeljko1234:
I agree. Especially because Motorola is part of Google now :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] plemen:
Please take your off-topic anger/banter to the general section. This thread is for cm10 not what you and a bunch of disgruntled are planning on doing with your next purchases.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] consolation:
There's a report post button, no-one likes volunteer hall monitor...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Google didn't cancel the update. Just because they own Motorola doesn't mean they really control them. It's still separate in the way Motorola does things. Plus I'm not punishing Motorola really, I just don't trust to buy from them, and I know I can trust Google when I buy a Nexus device.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] clemare:
In fact, we know that they fired a lot of people just before moto cancel the upgrade. So 1+x=2....x=?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
They did, but it was still motos decision to cancel the update, not google.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] consolation:
And Google appointed their guy to sort out the "update mess," who then proceeded to cancel them. C'mon Bravo, they are holding the smoking gun with the corpse at their feet...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
PLEASE stay on topic, guys. Thanks!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] RaiderDuck:
I agree. So should we discuss religion or politics next? :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Anyway, I've been running this ROM for a few days now.

The Good, Part 1: It's smooth and powerful. The only games I've played extensively (Vanessa Saint-Pierre Delacroix And Her Nightmare and the Angry Birds quasi-sequel Bad Piggies) are both beautiful and hella smooth. AOKP and MIUI weren't bad at all, but this one takes it to a whole new level,

The Good, Part 2: Chrome, video playback and Spotify album thumbails all work properly now.

The Bad, Part 1: I'm getting weird freeze-ups and crashes. Interestingly, these are the same crashes I'd get running stock GB. I'm starting to wonder if the stock Motorola HWA contained in "These Libs" isn't the cause of all this (which means Motorola didn't know how to properly code for their own frakking hardware).

The Bad, Part 2: Battery use is awful. I'm lucky to get six hours out of the battery now. I love this ROM, but may have to go back to AOKP if this ROM can't even stay charged through my work shift. I tried installing JustUnBean's Inverted Gapps to reduce battery usage, but have no idea if that did any good.