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[Windows 8 General] dazza9075:
what layout? desktop is there, the task bar is there, the start menu is significantly enhanced but is still there, you don't have to use metro and its apps if don't want to, and if that is so the metro interface becomes an interactive start menu that takes no more time to open than the old start menu, and is much quicker to load programs as and when you need them

it DOES take a bit of getting used to but once you get the hang of it its great and much more efficient, I have nothing to gain from trying to show people that perhaps what they have read or experienced for 5 min isn't the be all and end all of Win 8.

If you choose not to open your mind to the possibility that win 8 is actually pretty efficient when you get the hang of it then its no skin off my nose. That would simply be your loss but if you have based your decision from nothing but the words of others and perhaps a 5 min or even a couple of days trial on your own then your decision is a fail and your opinion is worthless.

If you have used it for a good while then I would have thought that the other issues Win 8 has would be the first things you bring up against it, but these issues are rarely mentioned by those that have not used it much, probably because they never used it long enough to experience them, which is why we get fed up with pointless "metro" comments with no further substance

Using your analogy of a daft car reference, if I dropped you in to a Bugatti Veyron as it were your first experience in a car, you would need to learn to use the obscenely powerful car for a while, getting to know it before taking it for a spin around the Nurburg ring . Not learning to use it and spinning off and crashing every 5 min wouldn't be fun so unless you learnt to use it you would never enjoy it.
[Windows 8 General] tricsio:
The simple answer is Windows 7.
[Windows 8 General] dragon_76:
A: Pin your desktop apps you use all the time to the task bar. Duh.

B: If you have ever launched an app from the desktop you have used the new "metro garbage". Most users don't even use the Start Menu but if you took away their full-screen launcher (the desktop) they would be lost.

C: Since it was introduced, the Start Menu has changed with EVERY release of Windows. Windows 7 Start Menu is not the Windows 95 Start Menu

Most people only multi-task between two applications and multiple studies (totally unrelated to Microsoft) have found that people are LESS productive when they multitask.

Don't even get me started about your claims of "get stuff done quickly" related to classic Windows, according to every study ever done on that matter, if you were worried about "getting stuff done quickly" you would be using a Mac. There has never been a study that shows people are more productive on Windows than on a Mac.
[Windows 8 General] conmanxtreme:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/10/pokki-brings-the-start-menu-back-to-windows-8/

Just install this and you'll be back to normal
[Windows 8 General] dazza9075:
install that and .....have a seizure :)

each to their own I guess but I cant for the life of me work out why anyone would want to take a 3rd part app that looks like a malformed, limp bastardized love child of Win 98 and Metro over the efficient informative metro that is already there.

I must be getting too old to understand all this "living in the past" new age nonsense :D
[Windows 8 General] GoodDayToDie:
Ways to avoid Metro:

Launch programs from Windows Explorer (hell, leave Explorer open to the Start Menu folders if you really want to).

Launch programs from the taskbar (after pinning them there).

Launch programs from the desktop (all too many programs still try put themselves there by default).

Launch programs using Run (Win+R, same as on basically every other Windows version).

Launch programs using the command line (cmd.exe or Powershell, yes, they're both present).

Launch programs using the Address toolbar for the taskbar.

Close your eyes, hit the Windows key, type the first few letters of a program name, and hit Enter, while pretending you're on Win7 (or even Vista, which added this feature).

I honestly don't get this fixation on "Metro" (in quotes because of Microsoft's stupid name-games). It's honestly almost irrelevant to my WIn8 experience; I use this OS in pretty much the same way I've used all other NT6.x versions, using Start as little more than an unusually large search box with a really handy one-click access. It got a bit bigger in this version, and accessing "Settings" or files now takes a couple more clicks than is used to, but otherwise it's functionally the same for me. I did find the Charms bar a little confusing, for the first 5 minutes. Now I simply know to use it for things like accessing the power controls, and it's no big deal at all.
[Windows 8 General] jojoshua1:
Another windows millenium

I'm sticking with W7
[Windows 8 General] Rolandh:
I kinda like the look of it, don't think I'd ever use it on my Win 8 Install when I upgrade as it looks more confusing than Metro, I'll probably use Start8 in combination with Metro until I get used to Metro though.

As the video what I watche yesterday it looks a tad confusing finding certain things as they are tucked away in wierd places.

Roland
[Windows 8 General] dazza9075:
thank you for your wonderful words of wisdom

it is confusing to start with, i will admit that, but like learning to ride a bike, it makes life much easier once you know and its something you dont forget :)
[Windows 8 General] Rolandh:
That's why I'm gonna have Start8 Installed so that when I can't find something I've got a fall back until I get used to the new layoutthen I can discontinue it or use the Classic Desktop when I wanna show off my Wallpaper.

I've been used to a Start Menu since 1999 when I got my first Desktop with Windows 98SE and the Windows 7 one has to be the best Start Menu that Microsoft ever created. The last Windows version I used that didn't have a Start Menu was Windows 3.11 when I was studdying IT at College in the mid '90's with the old Program Manager Interface, going from Program Manager to Start Menu was easy but I've got a feeling that going from Start Menu to Metro UI will take quite a bit of getting used to.

Roland
[Windows 8 General] dazza9075:
The irony is, the same arguments we have against moving to metro are exactly the same as when we moved from 3.11 to 95, i was in the middle of that argument back then and it turns out we were right and wrong to argue, 3.11 was more efficient than endless lists of start menu but the tech of the time didnt permit us to use icons to their full ability,we have that now in metro. Of course no one wants to remember that initially the start menu was not widely excepted,they would rather assume it is be all and end all and everything else is worse.

but hats off to you,you have a plan, i dont agree with it as i think the best way to learn is when you are forced to but at the very least you have the mind set to give it a shot,which is a damn site lot more than what many folk are willing todo
[Windows 8 General] Rolandh:
I've seen posts around here and on the Windows 8 Google+ Page from people saying that they won't upgrade to windows 8, the irony will be when they have to buy a new Notebook, Netbook or Desktop they will have no choice as most if not all of the Hardware Drivers will more than likely only be Windows 8 Compatable and not run on Windows 7.

I think that if you you don't try something in this case the Metro UI then you have no right to bash it and say you don't like it and refuse to upgrade & ignoring all the other benifits of Windows 8 over the Metro UI is just being ignorant.

I tried one of the very early previews on my Netbook, didn't like it due to the resolution of the screen not being up to it, but on my 15.6" Notebook that has the required Screen resolution it should work fine and I'll be able to make an informed decision about it.

Roland
[Windows 8 General] Rolandh:
I tried Start8 and hated it, the Metro UI/Classic Desktop combo is much more easy to use than what Start8 is, so glad that I didn't pay for Start8.

Roland
[Windows 8 General] hoola20055:
Just my opinion.. Win 8 is amazing! The desktop is a tile click away! Everything I use and need the most is right there waiting on ONE click! And utilities and programs/apps I hide are 2 clicks away. I don't understand why everyone is making easier...difficult. and I'm a hick from the sticks!
[Windows 8 General] tp2215:
I totally agree, takes a little getten used to but when u do its awesome!!!
[Windows 8 General] earthsound:
a great option for those who like the familiar

Without getting into a debate on the merits of your personal preferences for a Windows shell/UI, I will suggest, for those that want more of a traditional interface in Windows 8, Classic Shell.

It's open source, has a large variety of options, including different start menu navigation styles: Windows XP classic, XP simple, or Vista/7, IE9/10 options, and other small optional improvements to the interface.

Attached is a screenshot of the settings menu (all of them) for the Classic Start Menu portion of Classic Shell. The "basic" settings UI is the default and has a less dizzying array of options.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Comet1966:
Just wanted to share this photo thats on the sprint website. I was wondering why they have it on there?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Because they're bad at photoshopping screenshots onto phones. Garbage like this happens all the time lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mariojp:
Ha. Stock Google on a S3? Are Sprint sending out rooted phones with custom roms? X-)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Well its not even stock. It has 4 soft keys like most custom ROMs for the GNex do.
[Android Apps and Games] carlo67:
hi

I would like to know if is there app to Magnifying the phone screen ??

it will do follow the finger on screen with small box with Magnify
[Android Apps and Games] x000x:
you mean kind of like Bubble magnifier for iphone?
[Android Apps and Games] carlo67:
I don't know lol I haven't got a iphone loll
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] isaac3232:
Hey guys

Suddently I noticed a blue little tab appered on the side of the screen.its like an app drawer.how do I remove it? Cants find how please help.thx
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peoples_flip:
Search is your friend...

Hold down the back button
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hchxoom:
Longpress the back key. Its used for multiscreen, and you enable/disable via longpress of back softkey.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tsuki-ame:
Oh my, thank you so much! I was going crazy trying to get rid of it!
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bahanx1:
Does it have a real name? How do you customize the apps in the tray.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tot31:
You can even move it to the bottom...
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cd1yat:
Its the multi view tray and can be edited for approved apps that work with it if you scroll to the bottom and find the edit button
[LG Optimus 3D] 2old4toys:
which is better and why?

one gripe I have with my cube is the weak battery life. maybe the evo3D is better in this respect. Also more resolution to display 3D so looks better?

Your genuine experiences please
[LG Optimus 3D] jambo21:
I bought the evo3d for one of my relative. So I can tell you this:

1. Once it's out of the box you can notice the plasticy feel( it seems cheape ) and after like 5 monthes you start seeing scratches on the metal ( painted black) around the screen

2. The screen colors are crappy (specially the black , it looks gray)

3. You can't control the 3d effect , and that is so annoying and can cause you a headache

4. No 3D converter . And the 3d feature is much less usable than our o3d

5. The ics update didn't add any new feature to the phone

6. The battery life almost the same( maybe slightly better than our o3d)

7. Extremely smooth ( way better android experience) may be because he didn't install apps as mutch as I have. And the multitasking is great due to the 1GB ram

The bottom line : maybe it have ics and 1gb of ram but still as 3dphone the O3D is way better and yes the evo3d has more pixel density but the colours are really... really crappy ( like the colours on the Desire HD)
[LG Optimus 3D] bether:
I had EVO 3D and sold it after two weeks and bought O3D.

Evo 3D made worse 3D images (vertical misallign & pink color of photos).

Almost every model has hardware/software bug: vertical misalligned 3D cameras :(

Watch the EVO's images on the Phereo.

Here more about it issue:

http://www.pocketables.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11089

http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-3d/100796-screen-misaligned-2.html

http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/399362-huge-vertical-disparity-in-3d.html

Comparsion EVO3D vs O3D:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-evo-3d-vs-lg-optimus-3d-taking-the-fight-to-another-dimension/

Possible fix for 3D vertical disparity:

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/35152-jbmiuiandroid™-2929-cam/
[LG Optimus 3D] pandaball:
The Evo 3D's 3D features are crap, but the better processing power somewhat offsets that.
[LG Optimus 3D] shredman09:
It depends on the version of Evo3D you have. Originally the Evo3D shipped with dual 5MP camera lenses thus creating MUCH better 3D photos (with a bit of Custom Rom tomfoolery!) After the first batch they then switched to only the main lens being 5MP and it was compromised. With greater space between the lens the 3D is deeper but the parallax screen has a smaller sweet spot for 3D. Overall a better phone if you were lucky enough to own a first batch Evo....(especially with 1GB of ram, the memory management is also much better. Smoother UI as a result!
[LG Optimus 3D] Rho'd Berth:
The EVO 3D had indeed 5MP lenses, but you can only make 2MP 3D photo's.

Already the first batch had this terrible low quality 3D pictures. (O3D only makes 3MP 3D pictures, btw)
[LG Optimus 3D] 2old4toys:
Thanks for your replies!

Yes... I notice several people expressed vertical alignment issues on the Evo3D that is quite a problem if 3D is a big deal to the user (as it is for me).

Searching on Phereo for photos from O3D vs Evo3D... not an accurate measure, but how is it that there seems to be so many more Evo3D owners than O3D owners?

Am I right to say there's a lot more activity on the Evo3D forums too?

Maybe HTC has a stronger brand name that help them sell more than LG? Any official figures?
[LG Optimus 3D] OS_Hacking:
Even the EVO 3D has 1gb ram but O3D get a higher score in antutu benchmark
[LG Optimus 3D] wayno140:
I use the camera mods in the forum and it takes 5mp 3d pics now thanks to decomf
[LG Optimus 3D] Kaleptik:
That may be true but benchmark scores are useless in the actual use of the phone.

If both of these phones didn't have 3D, the best phone to choose would the the EVO3D.
[LG Optimus 3D] k41n0:
Well, considering the O3D equip an A9 dual core cpu, overclock may be possible and safe (i believe).

Anyway, i did buy an EVO 3D for my father an even if it is a great device too, the Optimus 3D give a way better 3D experience (better 3D photos and videos and the fantastic 3D converter). In my opinion HTC didn't developed the 3D function so well as LG did, maybe third party developer will fix this in future.
[LG Optimus 3D] 2old4toys:
If neither of these 2 phones had 3D, I am 100% sure I would never have considered owning them at all...

Anyone here agree?
[LG Optimus 3D] yourguitarist:
I would have an atrix2 or an HTC vivid if this phone didn't have 3D. It's a shame because I hardly use the 3D anyway. :(
[LG Optimus 3D] raulz28:
I haven't owned either but my brother has the thrill which is the same as the optimus and I have an old HTC Inspire and I would easily go with the Evo it has way better development. My single core phone can run JB like a champ I can't imagine how much better the better Evo can run it
[LG Optimus 3D] 2old4toys:
Seriously? I need to look into that! Link pls...
[LG Optimus 3D] jean-le-petit:
hi, i have my O3D since september 2011, with a biggest battery (mugen power 3200 mah) i need to charge it every 2 days in intensive use or every 4 days in normal use. All my friends says it does really good photos compare to their galaxy s2 s3 or iphone, and when i start a 3d video i just can hear a "whaouuu". LG make a good phone but they forget it fast so we just got the ics update but i try jb on my galaxy s2 and i don't find something i absolutely need on my o3d.

With some adjustment (custom rom and kernel), you can have a really good device.

Until now i have never look a better 3d phone.

Mine is overclocked to 1.3ghz.
[LG Optimus 3D] M3wThr33:
I feel like I'm in the twilight zone here.

I have both phones and I can't fathom why anybody would put up with the Thrill 4G. I'm starting to think my device must have been corrupted or something. I was given it for free at an LG event and used it for all manners of hackery.

Comparing the two is night and day.

The Optimus 3D has a much nicer camera and more onboard storage and that's where the advantages end.

The other negatives aside (LG's UI compared to Sense, MUCH lower resolution, worse battery, hilariously behind OS updates), the device is REALLY laggy. Looking elsewhere online, I see SOME people confirming my experience, but not on XDA. Are you guys just more tolerant or was I unlucky with the device I was given?

Unless I constantly clear the RAM, the device just hangs ALL the time. I've tried constantly to figure out the source of the lag but I can't. I thought it was FaceBook, removed it. Helped for a bit. Thought it was Swiftkey, removed it. Thought it was FolderOrganizer, removed it.

Basically, the phone is unusable to me except from running ONE app a day. And often when it freezes, it'll just reboot, too. I've wiped the firmware and custom flashed and ran stock OSs so many times and the result was always the same.

On the home screen, it's quick, after it caches everything up, but as soon as I jump into a program, it's about 4-5 seconds for any reaction to touches. Is it corrupted RAM? I mean, what would cause this device to be so incredibly laggy half the time but still operate fine, otherwise?
[LG Optimus 3D] 2old4toys:
Having now picked one up just a few days ago I can make some 1st observations between the HTC EVO 3D vs the LG Optimus 3D!

EVEN

The stereo cameras are vertically aligned in my EVO 3D just as good as my Optimus 3D! (A pleasant surprise since the number of very badly aligned 3D photos posted by EVO 3D owners on Phereo.com site indicates many have wonky left right camera lenses!)

EVO 3D Positives:

Visibly higher resolution display in 3D photo playback on the EVO vs Optimus. I can definitely make out more detail when viewing 3D material and the vertical parallax barrier lines are much less obvious on the Evo 3D screen.

Native EVO 3D camera support for .mpo and 2ndary option to save 3D photos as .jps.

EVO 3D negatives

Lower captured 3D photo resolution on EVO 3D vs 3D Optimus.

Recorded 3D video on the 3D is unacceptably jerky compared to 3D Optimus???

Jerky playback of both 1080 and 720p downloaded 3D SBS squeezed video samples from YouTube. Whilst playback of the exact same videos on my 3D Optimus is quite fine!

Need to investigate further if a class 10 card will help on the 3D video record and HD 3D playback issues on the EVO 3D.

Will probably post a video that focuses mostly on the 3D differences of the 2 phones once I'm done with my findings.

*update Choppy 3D video playback is not due to the speed of the memory card but an issue of the EVO3D upgrade to 4.0.3 ... bummer
[LG Optimus 3D] 2old4toys:
Hi Shredman09,

Any way for me to verify if my particular EVO3D has two 5 megapixel cameras or not. I googled but to no avail...

Many thanks in advance.
[LG Optimus 3D] 2old4toys:
The 2 megapixel 16:9 wide screen ratio 3D still photos from the EVO3D although brighter, are also noticeably less detailed than 3 megapixel 4:3 3D photos taken from the 3DO. May need to experiment more with the EVO3D's 3D camera options.

The view on the EVO3D screen for framing shots is brighter so easier to see in sunlight vs the O3D.

The EVO3D has a slightly wider angle lens in 3D camera mode vs the O3D. I had to step back to get a similar framing of the same subject when shooting with the 3DO.

Wider interoccular separation for EVO3D provides greater sense of depth in 3D photos vs the O3D at the same distance from a subject. However it also means the EVO3D is less suited to close up macro shots vs the 3DO.

Early impressions are from the two... the 3DO does better job for 3D camera performance largely because of the significantly greater resolved detail in the final image. I cropped the 3DO image down to 16:9 to match the EVO3D using 3DSteroid to make a better comparisson. The issues in EVO3D's sharpness are not immediately obvious on the phone's 3D screen but once you see the 3D photos displayed on a 3D TV at 1080p, the O3D clearly shows up how blown out details are on the EVO3D.
[LG Optimus 3D] drastic00:
Interesting. I thought the lenses on O3D were too close together, as the eyes are about 5cm apart. Depth is, in fact, best on close ups...but opposite for Evo. Interesting.
[LG Optimus 3D] 2old4toys:
Sorry for not replying earlier but now I have both the EVO3D and O3D (sounding boastful) I'd say you've been unlucky that your O3D is sadly and simply a faulty unit. Absolutely, that kind of performance would be unacceptable as the norm, but then again... You got it as a freebie! I wouldn't grumble if I were given a free phone near its initial release date.
[LG Optimus 3D] drastic00:
Yeah, could be his "hackery." Unless he has some sort of pre-release variant, they are (aside from firmware and baseband maybe, and the AT&T branding) the exact same device. I just noticed a couple of days ago my Thrill says "P920" on the inscription inside the battery cover.

Maybe he means Evo and not Optimus? Ah well, anyway...
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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] -Street Hawk--:
Are you able to control PS3 using your phone? Are you able to play games from it directly?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DARKCHYLDX101:
Yes. I only tried out one game so far. Personally the games aren't that great. Hopefully they add more in the future.

Edit: You meant the console I Don't know. I don't own a ps3 and I don't see an option for it. It just looks like a game hub for Playstation Mobile games.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] -Street Hawk--:
Oh so it's not like you can control your PS3 and play an existing games. ..it's USELESS than thumbs down sorry.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] d3adbroke:
Worked for ne on blackstar but like you said not many games at this time
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DARKCHYLDX101:
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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] COA4178:
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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DARKCHYLDX101:
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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kornklown69:
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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] RowdyFrowdy:
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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Kflan22:
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