[Galaxy S III General] Entropy512:
I'm not sure what "working relationship" he's talking about.

A number of us do have a contact within Samsung, who is fairly high level. However, their management never allows them to actually do anything.

The answer to any request is always "No". We have no relationship, we just have abuse and patronization. IMO, we have nothing to lose.

I THOUGHT we were finally establishing a working relationship during the whole defective eMMC fiasco. I even met, in person, with a number of Samsung engineers. I thought it was going to be the start of something new.

Boy was I wrong. Among other things discussed at the meeting were ways to improve communications between Samsung and the community. We discussed creating a private forum here where a select few established community developers could discuss/communicate with Samsung so that if another disaster like the eMMC defect mess happened again, we could catch it and address it early, instead of having devices brick right and left for months.

Samsung management killed every idea for improved communication. After the meeting, and now, we are nowhere beyond where we were over a year ago.

On top of that, we had an agreed plan forward for how to deploy protection to users of affected devices so that the bricks would stop.

This meeting was in mid-late July. It is now mid-October, and not a single device with defective eMMC has seen an update with the fix. Now, if no devices had received updates at all, I might be willing to let that slide. However, the Epic 4G Touch received an update significant enough to warrant a source release recently - the fix is not present. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32579727&postcount=820

Samsung lied to us just enough to keep us quiet until the eMMC ****storm passed.

Now, on Twitter, they say they're "discussing" the documentation issue. They have been "discussing" this for over a year. We have received nothing. We bust our asses to make Samsung's devices more attractive to a given market segment, established with at least 100,000 users of just Exynos 4210-based devices for CyanogenMod, and what do we get in return? They lob grenades at us like I9100 XXLQ5... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1756242

Note that the date of XXLQ5's release is early July 2012. Samsung had been aware of this issue for AT LEAST a month ( http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-diligently-working-towards-hardbrick-fix/ ), and had the nerve to endanger a device that had previously been safe.

We don't have a relationship, we just get used and abused.

Going back, we never have had a relationship. Look at SamsungJohn's posting history - Lots of promises of a "great thing coming" across multiple forums. NOTHING. A second round of promises of a "great thing" coming - NOTHING. Months later, a claim that they'll send some representatives of XDA to one of their developer conferences. TOTAL FIZZLE. Samsung promises a lot, but NEVER delivers.

Hell, they can't even be bothered to comply with the GPL these days. The source code releases for all Note 10.1 variants are broken and don't produce a workable wifi driver. When contacted about this and asked to provide sources that matched GT-N8013 UEALGB, they claimed that UEALGB was a leak. The truth? UEALGB was preinstalled on every Note 10.1 unit sold in the United states for AT LEAST a month.