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[Galaxy S III General] acey_zero:
Yeah, I think that is similar to where a lot of us are. You might check out the upcoming Sony Xperia V. Not quad core, but it looks pretty nice and has SD slot and removable battery, plus it's waterproof. Or else you could maybe get a US version GS3 or even just a skyrocket, those seem to be pretty well supported due to the Qualcomm CPUs.
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
Nexus 4 for sure.
[Galaxy S III General] stefankorun:
Come on, lets not give up now.

Anyone telling how we are requesting something more that we were not promised to get please stop. I am not saying you are not right but we are not loosing anything by spamming Samsung and if we get what we want the s3 is suddenly 100% more future-proof and everyone is happy - on xda at least :)
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Buy an n4, I know I would if I were economically independent.
[Galaxy S III General] yoramweil:
Thanks god! Used a VPN service to order my N4 from the american play store and did it Very long 4-5 weeks to wait.... I will sell my S3 and still win.. Also by getting access to the US google music app running (signing up from a US IP address) I don't need this is extra storage Ive used mostly for music......
[Galaxy S III General] browy:
You guys are so lucky you live in America and be able to buy the nexus 4 on google play store. Where I live, we have to wait until next year and the price is almost twice as much. I think I'll keep my S3 and get stuck with this Exynos4 crap.
[Galaxy S III General] NatTheCat:
Above & Beyond #ABGT

Sent from a Ticking Time bomb
[Galaxy S III General] yoramweil:
No provlem here. Get a VPN service to have a fake US IP and ship it to one of the companies that ships to your countries. Easy as it gets.,..
[Galaxy S III General] Stevemeister:
I saw this schedule on the Insignal forum. They removed the old schedule from the Origenboard site and linked it to this one.

19 december should be the day of a stable release. The stable release probably wont include the proper HWC libs and beside that its freakin' ICS (released 19 oktober 2011). (Entropy already said that on G+)

I think we should either start spam attack number two and ask for JB sources and proper HWC libs for the last time or just leave it be and for those who want run AOSP should leave Samsung alone in the future (and devs too).
[Galaxy S III General] dogans:
I just read the PDF and yes, it says the sources are for ICS? I don't get it, we're asking for JB and are getting old ICS libs? :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] rockyseenu:
LOL - It's really funny how buggy an official document looks from a large company like Sammy :D

they have date "31-Nov-2012" [ Hope it's not form Mayan's calendar ;) ] and they have mentioned 2011 instead of 2012 :eek:

BTW - As per an earlier statement from Entropy - It doesn't really matter if it's ICS source as long it's a clean one. Because he said it's easy to make it work in JB with few changes.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
I partially agree. On the note that it's cheaper to buy electronics I agree, but the poor Americans suffered hard when Apple had an injunction on the Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy Tab, and so long most people there are brainwashed Apple fans, they're going to continue to have a bad time. :/

I feel for them. (the non-Apple fans)
[Galaxy S III General] mr.raton:
I wonder will Xperia V be officially supported by CyanogenMod team? I see only Xperia T on get.cm at this moment...
[Galaxy S III General] acey_zero:
I don't think the V is released yet in most of the world (it might be out in Japan now, not sure). I am betting it will have very good Cyanogenmod support, but we will see.
[Galaxy S III General] Entropy512:
That's correct. The V isn't available for general purchse yet.

As to CM support, look at some of codeworkx's posts:
[Galaxy S III General] nextavenger:
I hope we get the sources soon. This is a big reason for me not pick S3 or Note 2. I don't care about Sony phones as specs are crap compared to the competition.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Yeah well the decent hardware in the S3 isn't of much use if one intends to roll with aosp, now is it? I'd prefer a well documented chip any day of the week be it dual core or quadcore over this S3. If only I had understood that back when I bought it.
[Galaxy S III General] SiriusCybernetik:
Want my SGS1?

It's almost like, only 2.5 years old and it runs JB 4.2.1 flawlessly.

Only 150$...
[Galaxy S III General] sabaramo:
Delete me please
[Galaxy S III General] Entropy512:
Specs are crap? T has the exact same CPU as the USA GS3 variants.

That combined with superior software (JB "butter" is far better supported on OMAP4 and Qualcomm - hell even the GNex has a smoother UI than official Samsung JB on Exynos4) makes it blow away Exynos4.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
^

This. Before the N4, there wasn't any phone on the market that could beat the fluidity of pure stock Jellybean á la Gnex.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
[/COLOR]

If these are the right componants, i suspect devs for that product (a supposedly OFFICIALLY recognised dev friendly device, and sold and marketly? advertised as such) may notice the same hiccups that our own devs have noticed, unless they have done as you say, released working and relevant sorces and documentation

Assuming that this product is the same, in the sense they have the same issues due to similar componants, i suspect a thread like this one will pop up on a forum dedicated to this product, and may be worth looking out for incase they decide to petition samsung.

The impression is that this is dev device, samsung would recieve an internet established and international recognised -1, or unlike depending on what particular media service you happen to be on, for substandard software support on a product sold as an dev friendly device, theses trends have a nasty habbit to grow, as much as wither away, what i want to know whats the reason for risking it, whats wrong with transparency, makes me wonder why.
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
i was just going to ask about that news about the odroid-x board... Now that they have a development board, would samsung be required to release the necessary documentation to get it to work and would that be somehow be able to be brought into the sgs3 development.
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
No. There has been a previous board called the ODROID-X (not 2) out for almost 6 months. It has not really helped.
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
ah, well that's a damnable shame.

I'm assuming documentation for that board probably doesn't help at all does it..
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
They may have technical physical documentation about the chip (useful for manufacturing or for Adam to make unbrickablemod), but they have access to the same library sources anybody else does, and its the library sources needed for CM, not the technical documentation
[Galaxy S III General] GabrielSousa:
so, our HOPE is lost ??? :( :( :(
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
on looking at the insignal github im feeling very assured that we will be getting something good very soon... jellybean based commits are already added here :D

http://git.insignal.co.kr/samsung/exynos/android/platform/hardware/libhardware/
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Don't know if I should be happy or not. It could be more useless broken shizzle.
[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
did you look at the jb commits' date as well?
[Galaxy S III General] Nick14:
I dream of a day when people would check the date and the source and see if it's usable before posting it... if it was the devs would have posted it already
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
damn.. looks like older commits.. silly me, was tracking the progress in cm code review and ended up entering the wrong branch
[Galaxy S III General] Mimsy:
Samsung Exynos tweeted that sources for Exynos 4412 are already up and provided link to kernel sources... Honestly, I'm getting really pissed about this.They are treating whole devbase as a bunch of mentally challenged idiots (excuse my language). Guess I'm jumping the Nexus 4 train.
[Galaxy S III General] cmajetic:
funny that everyone says he will get nexus 4 instead which is a big downgrade (excluding processor), why not xperia v or something?
[Galaxy S III General] Mimsy:
AOSP support on Nexus devices is awesome, I have Nexus 7. Xperia V seems nice because its dust & water proof, but it's more expensive, fatter, 1 GB RAM compared to 2 GB and CPU is dual Krait. I don't see how V could be compared to N4 (except for microSD slot). Anyways, lets not derail the thread.
[Galaxy S III General] norpan111:
What's so bad about nexus 4?

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[Galaxy S III General] Entropy512:
Good software more than makes up for some minor hardware deficiencies.

Look at the GNex as a perfect example. In almost all real-world usage (not benchmark epeen) it smokes 4412-based devices because the 4412-based devices are shackled with crappy software.
[Galaxy S III General] acey_zero:
Isn't the fate of the Nexus 4 being added to AOSP still uncertain?
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
why would it be uncertain. The nexus line is made specifically to be as close to vanilla as possible and AOSP is in that same concept/ideology.
[Galaxy S III General] cmajetic:
yes maybe but it can have the best software possible and still has crap camera (nexus4 too), very less storage and non removable battery, camera is a big problem imo, less storage too, I don't understand how you can produce a development phone with 8/16 GB, what's with all the backups? roms? mods? no space for them... so no matter if cm10, aokp and other roms are working fine when you just can have 2 backups max if you want to see pictures and have music too.
[Galaxy S III General] Idan73:
The reason why it's not aosp has nothing to do with os closeness to vanilla, it is vanilla, but rather either lg or qualcomm not willing to disclose drivers and/or documentation and/or internal workings of the processor. Same complaint as exynos4.

Enjoying JKay Deluxe on GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
Its more the radio stack than the processor
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
I have yet to see qualcomm or lg refusing to disclose drivers unlike samsung. hence why i said it is not uncertain.

and it's still a nexus device, there's no reason to hide anything.
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...f-in-aosp-now-still-not-officially-supported/
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
that looks waaaaaay better than anything samsung has offered. they get stuff that are working and more to come and the devs here get broken code and more broken code...
[Galaxy S III General] mavric2008:
Hi I have flashed a wrong binary on my SHW-M250S due to which is not getting up...not even download or recovery mode. I need samsung exynos chipset script so that i can Trace it...some says the minimal boot OS got corrupted...some says i need to replace the chipset...Can anyone help me with this?
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
um.. you're in the wrong thread and wrong forum. You should check out the galaxy s2 forum for your phone model

you should create your own thread and ask about this in the right place
[Galaxy S III General] Caloy_:
I've got an i9300 and I've had CM10 and AOKP on it. It seems to work fine. I don't have any other device to compare it with though. So I'd like to know exactly what it is that I'm not getting due to the lack of Exynos source code.
[Galaxy S III General] bornlivedie:
UI: laggy animations

Camera: Recording effects broken

Camera: Touch 2 focus issues with enabled flashlight

Bluetooth: audio streaming sometimes becomes laggy or stops at a distance > 1m

FM Radio: unsupported

TV Out: unsupported, will never work (proprietary, undocumented)
[Galaxy S III General] trm0815:
I was wondering if the quality from the pictures differ from cm to stock. Does anyone know?
[Galaxy S III General] NeoCream:
Not really (if you have installed the modded AOSP Cam 1.63 from the themes section).

Although, currently you can only record movies in MONO and this is truly an quality issue.

The stock camera might offer you some features which the AOSP cam lacks.... but you can find some cam apps on the market to cover those gimmicks.

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This message was created by the Mars rover Curiosity using a pre-alpha version of the SGS4
[Galaxy S III General] trm0815:
Ok thanks for letting me know!
[Galaxy S III General] jhericurls:
I'm running AOSP on my N4 now. The N4 is so much quicker than the S3 running CM10. Switching between apps is crazy fast.
[Galaxy S III General] Entropy512:
Yeah. The "no N4 in AOSP" was resolved within two days. AOSP 4.2 was pushed on a Tuesday, the mako and hardware/qcom repos were pushed late evening the same Thursday.
[Galaxy S III General] nextavenger:
Maybe they will be able to provide or give some sort of sources?

http://translate.google.com/transla...bile.pconline.com.cn/review/1212/3097634.html

Same specs as Galaxy S3
[Galaxy S III General] :
I don't think so...
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
but you dont have usb otg ;);)
[Galaxy S III General] sodeknetters:
Interesting! Android version is still 4.0.3 though...
[Galaxy S III General] kylesinho21:
Is there no sources yet? :(

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[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Wow, really?! Gosh, I never knew a Nexus device could run aosp faster than a device as far from aosp as possible! :silly:
[Galaxy S III General] Mrboxfacetramp13:
Why can't Samsung see where they are going wrong. I'm running CM10.1 and I really think that the sources would help
[Galaxy S III General] cmajetic:
lol funny story:

today I asked at a cheap store here in Vienna how much the nexus 4 and the xperia t is, when he told me the price of the xperia t a Samsung promoter came along.

He said: whaaaaaat? so expensive? The sgs3 has almost the same price and is much better.

I said: I already have it, but there is dust between the display and the screen and it is not supported for development (blabla you know) and the contacts application needs 3 seconds to display.

He said: you already flashed a different firmware? you know Samsung counts it.

I said: lol with triangle away it is gone in 2 seconds.

He said: but, but... its Samsungs right to keep their processors documentation.

I said: you're right but it's my decision what smartphone im gonna choose. bye.

This senseless conversation showed me that I'm gonna change my sgs3 to a nexus or Sony without a question. The Samsung guy had no idea about anything and wanted to tell me that Samsung is so much better because of the quad core lol
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
the fact that he knows about the counter shows that he knows much more than the average sales person.

On the other hand, how do you expect their promoter to support an agenda that is opposite of what he's hired to do? You put the guy in between a rock and a hard place which is not really nice at all...
[Galaxy S III General] cmajetic:
yes but what he thought? that I'll buy another sgs3 instead of another phone? makes no sense, he was just like: Samsung is the best and best and best...
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
that's his job... are you expecting a direct tv salesperson to promote verizon fios or time warner cable? heck no.

you're asking him to do the exact opposite of what he's hired to do....
[Galaxy S III General] Idan73:
I once took out sgs2 in Apple store while I was servicing wife's iPhone and they, doped on lsd or some other happy pills tried to sell me unlocked iPhone.

Needless to say, they seemed to have had bad trip and I could swear guys behind counter were looking for stakes, crosses and garlic.

Yes that is their job, so I took it easy on them. All I wanted anyways is just for them to fix the damn phone and leave me alone.

Enjoying JKay Deluxe on GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] norpan111:
You really should ask what the iphone could do for you that the s2 already can't do. ..

Yesterday I was having Christmas dinner with some friends and all the boys (like 7 ) actually had Samsung phones, I thought everyone used iphone. .. Now it's time to go back to iphone because it's not mainstream xD Samsung really seem to be the new fly where I live

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[Galaxy S III General] Mayflex:
Just switched from the s3 to the nexus 4 and it feels like an UPgrade in pretty munch anything :P

Especially in terms of build quality and Software

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[Galaxy S III General] Ausboy 2011:
Lol OK than....
[Galaxy S III General] spamtrash:
Hmmm....:rolleyes:

this thread is more than one month old now. Plenty of people contributed.

Samsung reaction is.... 0.0%.

Therefore, just to be honest (i'm an owner of 3 I9300;s), I personally think that is the best way to wote by your wallet, ladies and gentlemen.

If your next phone WILL NOT be Samsung, then, maybe, they will understand something.:rolleyes:
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:


Samsung have promised to release sources by end of the year, now it's debatable whether what they release will be of any use, but will it kill people to wait a whole 3 weeks?
[Galaxy S III General] Mika83AC:
Yes it will. We're already waiting to long for this and the devs are moving to other devices. So this is time critical ....
[Galaxy S III General] fakpuppet:
Which is exactly why the pressure should have been put the entire time instead of waiting for a sign of active delivery of the sources on Samsung part. They would respond - if at all - to constant pressure exclusively. The lack of it shows to them that they can buy time and play on the card of gradual dissipation of our energy. Its an old and effective technique... the greatest odds to successfully bully out the sources would then be unrelenting pressure. We all know that.

So what's with all the 'gentlemanly' waiting I wonder...
[Galaxy S III General] Sincci:
Pretty much all the devs have already moved on. There's absolutely no guarantee from them that they would continue the CM deveopment for SGS3 even if they would have the full source code/documentation. Besides, if those devs would truly care about the community, they wouldn't have sold their devices months ago (and making a huge deal about not supporting Samsung ever again) since they couldn't wait for Samsung to release the sources right away.
[Galaxy S III General] Mika83AC:
That's not about "care about the community", this is about fighting agains windmills. If Samsung is not moving there is nearly no chance to support the exynos phones in a serious way. The worked on it endless hours and are now sick of it.

Selling their phones is only logic, because the don't have the money to by endless numbers of phones...
[Galaxy S III General] Sincci:
But how does it change the matter if those devs have already sold their devices? Are you suggesting that they might repurchase them if Samsung would release the full source code?
[Galaxy S III General] Mika83AC:
No, i fear that it's already to late. So now we can just learn from it for the future and don't by Samsung devices any more ...

And we have to pay high respect to xplowild, codeworks and entropy (there are some more but i don't know their names) for trying to make the exynos devices work for us as best as possible!
[Galaxy S III General] Dav_prime:
Its too late for me, awaiting my nexus 4 as we speak. All of this mess made me choose not to buy a new S3. In the end I decided doing what I want with my device is more important then an SD slot.

Granted the S3 had a few nice features (and I would have liked to play with multi window) but the devs here are always on the ball and I'm sure mods and hacks will pop up that will allow me to add the features I like.

I will probably be flashing CM though, perfect ROM for me, just a shame the S3 was not the perfect piece of hardware for it.

I wonder if Samsung cares that its driving power-users away?
[Galaxy S III General] Jmldsilva:
Hello i am trying to buy an raspberry pi. And i found our hardware board selling when i was googling. I am thinking if you can install linux or ubunto how can they put hdmi or other functions working and we don't. I am just askink. Not to afirm....
[Galaxy S III General] Mimsy:
I've lost all hope... It seems Samsung will keep playing dumb and man, I really thought this phone would have awesome support since GT-I9000 has it (stupid deduction, I know). It pains me to see my old sgs 1 performing so good on AOSP. Guess I will wait for N4 or first decent cortex-A15 based phone with good AOSP support. I really love CM/AOSP and I'm tired of Samsung's bloated stuttering firmware.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Well to be fair, the i9000 would never have had that awesome support (in the later stages, at least) if it weren't for the Nexus S which came with exynos 3.

Much like in the case of the N10 which should have somewhat full aosp support despite the exynos 5. Only then Samsung is obliged to throw out the sources else they'll break their bad rep even further :p
[Galaxy S III General] wednesday13:
I hope we get a nexus exynos 4 device next year pls don't move to a15 yet..
[Galaxy S III General] Sincci:
So let me get this straight.. in your opinion we should stop advancing the technology and use over two year old technology on the new nexus devices so that you could get proper sources for your SGS3 to run AOSP version of Android and thus avoid buying a new phone? Sounds like a pretty awesome business plan for Samsung!
[Galaxy S III General] cmajetic:
yeah I don't think there will be a exynos4 nexus device next year... when the actual nexus 4 now has a better processor...

from now on I won't buy any Samsung product anymore and I'll just keep my Samsung PC monitor because I have no money for a new one :P
[Galaxy S III General] blazevxi:
I don't know for sure, but I guess Samsung's mobile and tv departments are separate from each other.
[Galaxy S III General] stefankorun:
I am so ready for sending some massive spam again.
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
Deleted.
[Galaxy S III General] blazevxi:
I don't think spamming is the best way to go about it
[Galaxy S III General] Stevemeister:
Well we got their attention with the first spam attack.... 19 december a stable release of source code should be released according to the schedule. If it doesnt bring any improvements (which it will probably not) than we should start a new action...
[Galaxy S III General] blazevxi:
Well spam as in flooding them with pointless requests. As long as it's civil I'm sure there'll be no problem.
[Galaxy S III General] Sincci:
And just to remind once again, it might bring improvements to the Origenboard, but not necessarily to our i9300 devices (or the just might be not compatible with CM), but most likely it will be broken on the release date on both devices (which the may or may not fix later on, who knows) just to meet the deadline.
[Galaxy S III General] cmajetic:
the only thing that would maybe work is when cyanogen/aokp teams would completely stop development of all Samsung devices (also the ones with no exynos4) then I'm sure it would have influence because a lot of users want to flash from time to time another rom, you don't need to be a flashaholic. so they would stop buying Samsung completely.

but I don't think you would be happy with that ;)
[Galaxy S III General] Mrboxfacetramp13:
Hopefully Sammy see the flaws in there logic and release their source codes or CM and other AOKP teams find work arounds

Moderators please approve me
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
lol... what on earth a samsung monitor has to do with this saga.......... cant believe u guys can get this deep:eek::eek:
[Galaxy S III General] more2come:
To Samsung, the Exynos 4 chipset is already dead. The first Exynos 5 devices are already out there (Nexus 10 Tablet), the A9 is history. I'm finally ditching my S3 for a Nexus 4. It's kinda sad, because the S3 is a true flagship device. but a device is just as good as the (community-)support it gets, and Samsung is completely letting us down! If someone is interested in an international S3 (pebble blue), write me a message.