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[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
Don't expect this thread to stay civilized for long. (sadly).

My random comments:

Regarding the Samsung side:

Neither OS is a true multitasking OS by desktop standards.

what is 'samsung integration'? being able to connect directly to samsung printers/tvs?

You should be more specific about 'more control over (apps/hardware) if you're doing a paper.

why is it a better search bar?

include: better integrated map system

I don't believe the audio is better than the iphone.

'offline maps support' should not be in specs.

Both phones are 16:9.

what's a multitasking button? the home key?

'faster upload'? Is that true?

I don't know about 'more durable' than the iphone 5.

S-pen doesn't give fruit ninja any more functionality. It's just an alternate input device.

It is nice that it doesn't block your view as much though.

Regarding the iphone 5 side:

faster download? What does that mean?

Do apps really launch faster than on the Note 2?

Why does the iphone have better landscape typing?

You never see appstore comparisons android vs iOS anymore. They both have hundreds of thousands of apps, good and bad.
[Galaxy Note II General] Ph4ZeD:
I'm not a fanboy, I enjoy all technology and I think Apple make some wonderful devices. I don't own either phone but here's my own way of looking at them...

Size: the main way these two phones differ is size. Do you use your phone more as a phone (texting/calling) or computer tasks like browsing the internet, emailing or playing games? I would say the iPhone is superior as a phone simply because its smaller, better for one handed usage. The Note 2 is better due to the multi-tasking, larger screen and expandable storage as a computation device.

OS: I consider iOs as well polished, but a bit out of date. It doesn't offer widget support and you can't even install different launchers. Android has the customisation.
[Galaxy Note II General] cyprusx:
Hey thanks for the reply

Neither OS is a true multitasking OS by desktop standards.

True compared to desktop but android does handle multitasking better as IOS tends to hang up apps in the background while android keeps them running

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/112013-how-multitasking-works-on-android-and-ios

Also the actuall multitasking menu is much better

what is 'samsung integration'? being able to connect directly to samsung printers/tvs?

Yes

why is it a better search bar?

Well its allot more flexible as its a widget you can place it anyway for easier access and I believe it has Google predictive text built in

include: better integrated map system

hmm maybe better Google integration already covers that? (Google maps)

I don't believe the audio is better than the iphone.

"Note II produced one of the cleanest outputs we have seen from a mobile device and that includes the recently tested Apple iPhone 5" (GSMarena)

what's a multitasking button? the home key?

ah I think I meant the menu button

'faster upload'? Is that true?

Yea well all the speed tests have the Iphone winning in Downloads and the Note winning in Uploads

I don't know about 'more durable' than the iphone 5.

All the drop tests have the Note 2 winning

Why does the iphone have better landscape typing?

The note 2 becomes too wide when holding it in landscape

hmm so you dont think Having less low quality apps is a positive because there too many apps anyway?
[Galaxy Note II General] cyprusx:
Hey guys I also posted this on the Iphone forums as well and he says that 50% of the positives for the Note 2 are wrong but he wont clarify what?
[Galaxy Note II General] Xaddict:
Google Navigation is not just maps.

It is way better than Tomtom and Copilot and is completey free and updated frequently(almost daily).

It includes satelite view maps and many other highly advanced features.

Galaxy Note 2

Specs

HDMI full HD video out.

USB storage OTG

SD card(and hot swappable)

Removable battery

Also a higher SN ratio, though not as high as others.

Bigger screen

Blacker blacks and lower battery usage due to amoLED's.

S Pen

It is way faster to input with the s-pen and swype compared to tapping a keyboard with fingers.

Asian language speakers can use character recognition.

There is a function to tap and drag which makes selecting ranges easier within the calendar.

This may have been removed from Note 2.

The s-pen is a very accurate input device unlike a finger.

iPhone 5

The Note and Note 2 have a setting where keyboards can be downsized and moved left or right.

This makes one handed use the same as on any small screened phone.

This voids the claim that iphone is somehow more sensible for having such as small screen.

Really, apple have no shame and will stoop to anything i their ads.

The retina sceen is a hoax.

Viewing distance is critical with resolution, e.g. ppi on apple's larger "retina" screens drops to 260ppi as they are made for viewing further away.

The eye cannot distinguish resolution above 300ppi anyway and having a small screen means you would have to hold it very close to notice even slight differences to an amoled screen.

In the real world, people don't do this with their phone, so what is the point of Retina?

It is just an apple marketing wank.

Buyer beware.

But milkier blacks

Once you put a phone in a case, it has the feel of the case.

and noisier.

OS

This is only a plus if you are living behind the walled garden.

Once you break free, you will find out how the rest of the world lives, with cooperation and compatibility between technologies. I have experienced both(macuser 15 years ago) and will always choose freedom over patronising appletalk.

Be frank, many people I know complain bitterly about itunes.

The imcompatibilty with other technologies is offensive to others like myself and a burden to apple users.

Not for me. I have big fingers and hands.

And when using swype, the larger keyboard is better.

And the difference is?

Not with Hondas.

My Note integrates brilliantly with my Honda's blutooth for calls and music.

Do you know how much it irks me as an adroid user to see ads for iphone integration in cars and bank apps etc?

Especially now that Android users actually outnumber ios.

About the fanboy thing.

Apple's got it coming.

Their arrogance and dishonesty are being met by quiet but resolute competition from Android and others.

I'm just not a fan of apple.
[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
The one handed keyboard setting is only of use if you use the stock keyboard/dialer/etc. I don't. Smaler screens win for one handed use. Period.

Higher Ppi is an apple advantage if you are being honest. How significant that advantage is is up to debate. As you said it depends on how close you hold your phone and how good your eyes are.

We are comparing phones not cases. Apple wins that one hands down.

Aaron from phone dog commented that his swype slowed down because there is more ground to cover. There are pros and cons.

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Yeah, it's kind of irrelevant. If you have so many apps that it is impossible to look at them all, then the only thing that is relevant is whether you can find apps that do what you want.

I think ios still retains the advantage in terms of getting newest programs first since there are less compatibility issues.

And in response to your other post - if they won't be specific about what the don't consider an advantage then they might just be trolling.

Keep in mind that certain features could be both advantages and disadvantages depending on the what you want to do.
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
That's because they are not desktops. But the note 2 offers great multitasking on a mobile device, people are never really happy but I love the multi window feature, in my opinion that is awesome multitasking.
[Galaxy Note II General] kylec:
This is subjective.

For me and likely many others, the larger screen provides a more comfortable landscape typing experience because the hands are less cramped together.
[Galaxy Note II General] foxmeister:
Given that Android allows you to have multiple installed keyboards which you can easily switch between, I cannot see how the iPhone can win here.

That being said, I have average side hands and have no problems with the stock keyboard in landscape anyway, but I do use a split keyboard on my Nexus 7.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note II General] mathen:
I am also confused between two.Note 2 has notification led too.I love them.But note 2 is too big for me .(why its bigger than note,which fell off and broke ,so I bought iphone4s 7 months back.
[Galaxy Note II General] cyprusx:
So can anyone think of any benefits to the iphone 5 ????
[Galaxy Note II General] allmine1976:
Obviously the iphone 5 makes you look really cool .
[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
Sure. The iphone is smaller, more portable, and a simpler device. If my parents wanted a smartphone, God forbid, I would probably get them an iphone.

There is no denying that what the iphone does, it does very very well. (till they screwed up maps). Comparing the note 2 took the iphone is a little weird. The iphone is like a cute BMW 2 seat convertible. The note 2 is more like an lexus SUV. They're just different markets.
[Galaxy Note II General] 30Seconds:
If you listen to music the IPhone has a lot of benefits, especially in the ease with which you can construct and sync play lists and generally manage music files.

One huge problem with the Note and indeed all Android 4.1.1 phones is that there is no way to adjust the volume via headphone controls any more, as Google has reserved the long button press for Google voice search. You actually have to take the phone out of your pocket to adjust volume.

I actually went up and played with an IPhone 5 yesterday as these issues with my Note 2 are a PITA, but I found that the sound quality was roughly the same or perhaps even better on the Note 2. I've ordered some simcard adapters and when they arrive I may try to live with both phones until the bugs in the Note 2 are ironed out.
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
exactamondo!
[Galaxy Note II General] cyprusx:
does anyone hear have much experience with IOS6, its just my final list has sooo much more Note 2 advantages, there has to be something on Ios6 that's better or exclusive, anything big or small????
[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
You're best off asking this in an iphone forum.
[Galaxy Note II General] rans0m00:
This might be a plus for iPhone.

You know what to expect. When you grab your friend or family members phone to make a call on or whatever it looks like most other iPhones you have picked up. If you like this type of thing then the predictability is good.

The apple eco system is not all bad. Younger brother has all apple products and they work great together. Just stay in their eco system and it's mostly all good if you like cookie cutter devices.

I personally think the iPhone 5 feels very nice in my hand.

This might not be the best wording but iOS is almost idiot proof. Nothing I have ever done to my phone (ip4) left it completely unusable. First time really playing with droid I was not so lucky.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mork2k4:
It wouldn't let me post in the developer thread due to lack of posts from me and told me to post here. I'm wondering if someone can answer my question. I'm running the 2.17 paranoid android rom and I wanted to know if there was a way to toggle 4g on and off like on cm10. I stream radio while I work and I can never connect to 4g in my building so I would like to be able to turn it off to extended my battery life. I saw his same question asked in the developers thread but saw no reply to it. Thank you if you can help
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] WiredPirate:
You can use a toggle app.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wmba.android.toggle4gforrazr&hl=en
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mork2k4:
Thanks :)
[Motorola Atrix 2] Godrillax:
I have a stock rooted Atrix 2. I rooted it literally yesterday (10/9/12) using the once-click method by jimmy's thread (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1327741). I have tried to update to ICS with wifi 3 times already. My last attempt, I unrooted the phone, removed bootstrap and even factory reset it. I still get "The software update failed."

What am I doing wrong here? I know there are a few others who are having this problem, but with all the problems in one single thread, it is hard to find an exact answer.

Sean
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
You had the A2 bootstrap installed? That's the problem if you didn't remove the files from the /system/bin folder.. if it was the A2 Bootstrap from here, then do this:

You will need to re-root.. but just being rooted should not affect your OTA install. Also, if you do have root, go and check /cache/recovery/last_log to see why the install fails exactly.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Godrillax:
I just flashed back to 2.3.5. then updated to 2.3.6. OTA and currently right now I am downloading the OTA ICS. If flashing back to 2.3.5. then updating to 2.3.6. to 4.0.4. I will try your method. To be honest, I am new to rooting and what not. I have done so lightly in the past, 2 years ago, but I'm back at it.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Godrillax:
Okay I fixed it...on the 5th update. After flashing back to stock rom to 2.3.5 with RSD, then OTA to 2.3.6. then finally OTA to ICS 4.0.4! ICS is pretty awesome. I am really happy with it :D

XDA forums is awesome, a lot of helpful sticky threads!
[Motorola Atrix 2] whodat006:
Thank you your advice was very helpful in updating my son's phone
[Motorola Atrix 2] huffa12:
I am having the same problem. Could you post how you did this?
[Motorola Atrix 2] ELPABLO07:
You will need to get RSDlite and flash the phone again with 2.3.5 to STOCK. Then just update to 2.3.6 and finally 4.0.4.

If you are in ICS leak 2 you need to downgrade "ICS TO GB" with Jim's tool. It has the .bat file to do so in cmd or you can also use the same file and flash with RSD.
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
^That will cause soft-bricks.

DO NOT

use Jim's tool if you are on ICS leak#2 or soak test or final ICS (all the same).

If you meant to say the first ICS leak, then, yes, by all means use Jim's tool to fxz back to GB.
[Motorola Atrix 2] ELPABLO07:
My fault! Yeas i mean leak one. Actually i already did it with v1.2 based on leak 2. Now im running ICS official update.
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Right... and that leads me to another point (not directed directly at you, of course): If anyone who has installed the ICS leak#1 ota package later flashes a ROM from the dev section based on Leak#2 or Final ICS, that changes nothing in terms of the bootloader - and you are still on Leak#1, and you may use jim's fxz/script package to downgrade to GB.
[Motorola Atrix 2] osantos88:
i'm having the same issues too so once you figure it out on here im going to be ecstatic
[Motorola Atrix 2] deveshmanish:
Just read the next post bro altered had already covered this ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE RIGHT BELOW THE POST you're quoting from...

Just saying...
[Motorola Atrix 2] notrealtechsavy:
I'm having problems myself this is what the log says or what I thought was important:

Parsing the directoryd_name: 1-0:1.0

Finding update package...

I:Update location: /cache/Blur_Version.55.13.25.MB865.ATT.en.US.zip

Opening update package...

I:1 key(s) loaded from /res/keys

Verifying update package...

I:comment is 1460 bytes; signature 1437 bytes from end

I:whole-file signature verified

I:verify_file returned 0

Installing update...

installing steflash extensions

installing omapdevtype updater extension

blk: partition "userdata" size 4961730560 not a multiple of io_buffer_size 524288

Verifying current system...

file "/system/bin/mount_ext3.sh" doesn't have any of expected sha1 sums; checking cache

failed to stat "/cache/saved.file": No such file or directory

failed to load cache file

script aborted: assert failed: apply_patch_check("/system/bin/mount_ext3.sh", "1810bb2cd607e2f6cfbeafa158bb3a89629d60b7", "3a8382950bd4a6226349607d099afcbd93653d48")

assert failed: apply_patch_check("/system/bin/mount_ext3.sh", "1810bb2cd607e2f6cfbeafa158bb3a89629d60b7", "3a8382950bd4a6226349607d099afcbd93653d48")

E:Error in /cache/Blur_Version.55.13.25.MB865.ATT.en.US.zip

(Status 7)

Installation aborted.

.ATT.en.US.zip (Status 7) Installation aborted.
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Your mount_ext3.sh has been modified from stock - you need to replace it.

Or FXZ back to stock..

Sent from my phone's mind
[Motorola Atrix 2] notrealtechsavy:
Thanks for the input I've searched for that factory to just copy and paste that in is there a better place I need to look? Also there is one right below that and it is a backup I guess and its slurred the same way I guess.
[Motorola Atrix 2] justanumber:
Success!

Great info and got me where I could update my phone. Thanks to all.

My Atrix 2 was rooted of course and reason I could not get update...

Know this may be off subject a bit... but wondering if anyone could point a noob to place where I can re-root after updating to new at&t update for the atrix 2? Searching for this info, but amount returned is bit overwhelming.

Hoping someone that has been successful can point me in right direction.

Thanks again for help on getting new update!
[Motorola Atrix 2] kirkgbr:
Search turned up this >>> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1742879

Be sure to read thoroughly before attempting.
[Motorola Atrix 2] justanumber:
Thanks! I am up and running the OTA update and rooted already.

I followed Step (6 here for root and worked great: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1779968

Then to get tether working, followed this advice (post 8): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32134903
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jproy12:
Quick question for you all, I was looking at rooting my phone, and been doing lots and lots of reading and saw that if I want to flash a ROM, I need to install CWM once I've rooted my phone in order to load any ROM's on it or anything really...

My question is, I have the Canadian Version of the GS3, the I747M, and found that it's a bit complicated to install on the phone? Is this true? There seems to be mixed reviews on this...

Saw that its version 6.0.1.2 and 6.0.1.4 for Touch for the Samsung Galaxy S3 (AT&T) I747. Can I just follow these steps:

http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-tutorials/how-to-install-clockworkmodcwm-recovery-on-galaxy-s3/

and load this CWM (for AT&T) being its not exactly the same as the Canadian phone? Is there something special I need to do to load 6.0.1.2 onto my I747M phone without any problems? I'm assuming that using the CWM for AT&T(I747) on Bell (I747M) shouldn't be any different? Correct?

Thanks

JP
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] lgsshedden:
this guide has all you need http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jproy12:
Thanks, I've read that thread but still doesn't answer my question above... Looking for a clear answer and not just some threads, I've done more than enough research, the reason I did a new thread for my question...

Thanks,

JP
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] lgsshedden:
sorry, when I read the thread I linked IMO it does answer your question: CWM is the same for ATT as Bell.

The thread details how to root and install CWM using Odin. You can after installing CWM 5.4.5 then use CWM to flash the 6.01.2 zip posted in the developer's thread or the touch version within CWM.

Once installed, its easy to update CWM -- the issue is the initial install.

Yes, there are many ways to approach this: rule one of offering advice though is only to offer advice based on personal experience of what does or does not work -- I gave you answer based on what I know to be safe, reliable and usable from direct experience.

Perhaps others will assist differently. The post you linked to is not an xda thread: you asked and I suggested an xda thread related for which assistance exists on xda.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jproy12:
This, that's what I wanted to know... so I need to install CWM 5.4.5 first on my phone? That's where I find it confusing, your thread is none the less great, I used it to root my Bell phone actually, but it's the CWM that I dont want any troubles with and find it confusing...

So having said that, which version do I install on my GS3 first so I dont have any issues during the inital install?

Thanks,

JP
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] slam666:
I installed 6.0.1.4 and had problem with backup so I am using older version 5.8.4.5, work fine.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jproy12:
Thanks, and you're on what carrier? I'll check to download 5.8.4.5 then...

Any other inputs is appreciated.

JP
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] amonrule:
I downloaded the CWM fm the thread you guys have mentioned and flashed it with odin. It works but some how rom manager does not recognises it. Can anyone tell me y?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jproy12:
I think this is why I want some clarification... Some versions works, others don't, just want to know what works and make everything clear...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] prscarp:
I would use TWRP, you can easily flash it once youre rooted using "Goo Manager" from the market. I much prefer it over CWM.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jproy12:
Thanks, I'll look into it!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] slam666:
Rogers as stated in my sig ;)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jproy12:
:good: Thanks! Didnt see it on Tapatalk...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ATS2:
You could also use Mobile Odin. I have flashed numerous times using Mobile Odin and all have been succesful. This is a great tool.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Gambler_3:
4" WVGA screen, 5MP camera, dual core novathor chipset.

http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s_iii_mini_specs_leak_packs_dualcore_cpu_jelly_bean-news-4926.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_to_unveil_4inch_galaxy_s_iii_mini_tomorrow_in_germany-news-4924.php

They are seriously going to associate the "S3" name with this crap?

Can samsung really not make a small phone as good as iphone? Is this the downfall of the galaxy S brand image? No doubt the average person will compare this with the iphone 5 and it wont look good.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] avercros:
Epic fail, we want exynos.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] dakaringer:
Wow.... seriously?

That looks more like a repackaged original Galaxy S hardware.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] got-petrol:
i was surprised not to see 2 gig of ram
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Mafiatounes:
Its the Galaxy S Advance with a new design and JB, not impressed at all Sammy

Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9300 met Tapatalk
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Gambler_3:
The worst part of it all is that its called the "S3 mini".

"We'll be launching a 4-inch Galaxy S III on the 11th in Germany, there's a lot of demand for a 4-inch screen device in Europe. Some call it an entry-level device, but we call it 'mini.'"

Some call it iphone and you samsung clearly dont know what you are doing here. It's not like they dont already have 4" entry level phones. :rolleyes:

They just want to trick customers into thinking this is a galaxy S3 in a smaller body. Epic fail samsung!!!!!!!
[Galaxy S III Mini General] ghostofcain:
I suspect to the average Joe it is, quad core doesn't make it text any quicker or reduce the number of dropped calls and as for the camera you obviously can't squeeze the 8mp in such a small body.

Seems to me Samsung can't win elsewhere they're being lambasted for releasing the i9305 and devaluing the i9300 by relegating it to second fiddle and here for the mini not shoe Horning the S3 hardware into a smaller, more desirable?, chassis with a better screen.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] disclaimernotice:
Facepalm indeed. If these specs are true, the s3 mini would be lousier than the s2 and the galaxy s advanced. I would expect the mini to at least be as good as the s2