yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III General] justnoone:
I do apologize if i offended you, but for my opinion, If it's really patent marked, then at least samsung should respond with some explanation as to why not they are not releasing it, not like they would just say no to the developers, they should at least issue some letters to the developers explaining or pointing out those reasons that may affect the releasing or opening it out on the public.

Till then, developers and android lovers may continue practicing their rights to ask samsung to release it.:)
[Galaxy S III General] ManCityFC:
You just made a very good point....and HTC suffered a similar fate when they dicked the Sensation devs around. Look at HTC and LG now. Look at their forums. People are deserting them on here.....or at least we did!

That's why Samsung could use this as a great bit of PR. Give the devs what they want, tell them they were just compiling things for them to make it easier, and be the devs biggest friend. They've nothing to lose by doing it, and everything to gain, for the reason I pointed out in my statement. It's what makes them the polar opposite of Apple, and I bet every single person on these S3 forums has sold at least one or two phones for them. I know I have!
[Galaxy S III General] fejorca:
Done posting on all pages
[Galaxy S III General] htc6500uk:
I think the same problem re code will affect the Note II as it is based on quad-core Samsung Exynos 4412

The text should not just refer to the S3
[Galaxy S III General] nfsmw_gr:
Well...i posted on their page...

So the only thing is to wait.

I wish they post a documentation about the exynos chip...
[Galaxy S III General] DeadSOL:
Long live the freedom of Android! :D
[Galaxy S III General] mug2k:
What are the upsides of getting the documentation ?
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Instant world peace, a cure for cancer and proper butter smoothness on non Samsung/ Touchwiz JB roms.
[Galaxy S III General] funkyblue04:
The original video of XDA re the Exynos chip turned me off buying a GS3. I was about to because the GN is usually a watered down version of an existing Samsung flagship. I have been waiting for the next GN and will continue to do so now. No decent CM = No sale!
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
great idea!! but inst there any other professional way of contacting them or sign a petition?
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
A petition could be started, but honestly they are not really effective either. In the end Samsung will do what Samsung wants. If the dev's already tried the correct channels and were unsuccessful, I think it will be pretty hard. The only real way to get samsung to notice is stop buying exynos based devices until they do release proper documentation. If they see they are losing $ then they will notice, but until it affects their wallet, then they wont care.. If they are still selling millions of devices without the documentation and making tons of money why would they care?
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
true, but samsung is not fully closed right? they do drop their opensource codes in the right time, whether its complete or not is another question ;) So pushing them further might be a good idea.. but if thats what samsung thinks just like you said.. then we need to take the hard way.

Would love to see some great devs here contacting samsung in the right channel and see their response
[Galaxy S III General] jackie_jagger:
I hope this works, but I also hope you guys know that those facebook pages aren't exactly maintained by Samsung themselves - those are handled by different PR companies - it can help but it could also mean that the information doesn't go all the way to the top.

just my 2 cents.
[Galaxy S III General] stefanACM:
Please give me a little time I will try something because I have lot contacts in Samsung. I think I can get some parts of source that we really need.

Also I posted this text on all groups
[Galaxy S III General] budisuharto:
Sorry to sound naive but what will this release achieve? Isn't it 'open' enough?
[Galaxy S III General] zoot1:
You need to visit this forum more often.. For starters read the last few pages of CM10 discussion thread.. You will get to know the aim of this endeavor..

The Source Code for the Operating System maintained by Google is "Open Source" but the device specific hardware driver documentation is either "Closed" or "Outdated".
[Galaxy S III General] vsTerminus:
It's unfortunate, but all this really comes down to is two simple facts:

1. We, XDA and the greater community of tinkerers, developers, and enthusiasts, are not a large enough group to impact Samsung's sales anymore, even if we all jump ship this very moment.

2. Because of number 1, Samsung has no financial incentive to release the documentation and source we are asking for.

They will continue to sell millions of devices to the masses, regardless of how they got there. Like I said, it's unfortunate. I love my SII to pieces and I don't really want to move away from them next time I buy a phone, but I will go where the community (and the Cyanogenmod team) goes.
[Galaxy S III General] godzdpk:
done !
[Galaxy S III General] anup123456:
Done..

Request everyone to do it !

I have a gut feeling they will release it if a huge mass appeal is made.
[Galaxy S III General] kobazik:
I think @SamsungExynos is better place to ask as they were the only one that replied.
[Galaxy S III General] DeadSOL:
Yes, let's all calm down now. STOP fighting among yourselves!

Look, the senior members of XDA really need to be respected. If they're saying something, try to listen to them. Yes, XDA is a large community and we have power in numbers but we look like a rioting mob right now. Let's let the seniors guide us and consolidate this movement!!!

Once again, we're all part of the same community and we have the same goals. Be civil to your fellow members and take action in a proper way.
[Galaxy S III General] CallMeVentus:
I've been observing this thread.....a few notes:

1) This place is not a flaming arena . So don't flame and be on-topic; follow what the title says .

2) Those who are on-topic , great . Those who aren't , well , start being on-topic !

3) Stop pouring cold water all over people by saying negative comments . If you think they will fail , keep it to yourself -- they're mentally prepared for it and do NOT need your additional comment about it .

4) Good luck with this . I tried to do something like this before and Samsung just doesn't speak up .

Sent from Ursa's claws.
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
thread cleaned...

everyone please stay on topic and stop the bickering... If it continues I will just have to close the thread.

Be respectful of each other even if you do not agree with the person.
[Galaxy S III General] w1nter456:
Hi, I like your comment.
[Galaxy S III General] Prawesome:
Looks like some serious fighting is going on over here :banghead:

Look,if you believe that this will happen, then keep supporting it.

If you don't believe that this will happen,and think the OP and others are childish,then don't post.As simple as that....

This thread and its mission have become quite famous,with a huge group of people supporting it like this,I personally believe it could happen.

EDIT:Mod cleaned up thread before I posted :D now this post looks like one of those posts which backs things up unnecessarily and adds to the spam
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
May be they are regretting it now;), either way let's knock the door again and again until we get a decent response but carefully... Don't break the door:cool:

Edit:

To all here, whether this has been tried earlier or not, whether we got a response or not let's try this once again. We have nothing to lose but if we succeed we can sit in cushion chair when key lime pie gets released. Let's stay United and knock their doors decently and politely and without breaking the rules ;)

《swagged from aokp》
[Galaxy S III General] :
Thanks!
[Galaxy S III General] GalaxyGusta:
This thread has 44k views I hope all of them posting to Samsung related media
[Galaxy S III General] danielalarcon:
Posted!

As some already said, it won't hurt to try, we don't miss anything by attempting it, I did my 2 cents by posting in all the options explained at the begining of the thread, good luck!

Samsung needs to hear this, hopefully sooner than later, why do they think they get to sell so many phones around the world? because "advanced" users like us (I dare to include myself) just recommend mouth to mouth all the time, parents, cousins, fellow workers, friends, etc. So probably for every person that posts here, this has influence in around 10 - 15 selling devices, from those 15, say at least 2 per each one of them, that's about 30 recommendations because of 1, obviously this are just big round predictions, I myself believe it's far more, I wouldn't like to change to another phone brand when my S2 needs to be changed, but, I agree, I would go wherever the CM community goes, Codeworks is already trying out the Sony T, so you never know......

Go community!!! :good:
[Galaxy S III General] :
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-exynos-documentation-issues-121487/

:)
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Might sound good at first, but I don't believe that for a second. Not after reading what Entropy512 posted. Seems like they made a promise before which they didn't keep at all. What makes this promise so very different?
[Galaxy S III General] rockyseenu:
I agree. However i kinda have tiny hope that this will be fruitful. To answer "what makes this promise different?" - the earlier promises were made in private (atleast within XDA). But this one here is floating in cyberworld and if it stays in news for a while then we can get something.

Hoping for the best!!
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
I am too hoping for the best, although it just feels like this isn't going in the direction we want it to.
[Galaxy S III General] f0xy:
Is anyone attending the android developers meet up? Exynos will be there, although not sure if it will be the PR team or actual developers... details below

http://www.svandroid.org/events/85444922/?eventId=85444922&action=detail&sf6516858=1

---------- Post added at 04:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:49 PM ----------

Hmmm let's keep positive :)

I'm not up to scratch on the failed promise but let's see what happens here because its out to the public?

Was the failed promise behind closed doors I.e dev to dev?
[Galaxy S III General] jj03:
I hope this comes off. I remember the grief myself and other community members of i8910hd forums gave samsung to continues supporting our device. . Not as if xda is asking for as much...just a bit of respect.

Flange.
[Galaxy S III General] kicksilver:
I'm in.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Yes, whereas this is PR funky to angry horde.
[Galaxy S III General] Entropy512:
They made a public promise that they were "working diligently" on the eMMC brickbug issue.

However, at this point, there is not a single solution deployed to any device that came from Samsung as opposed to the community. They did post a solution to LKML, and they deployed that solution to the I9300 - but the solution does NOTHING on an I9300 (It has a safe chip that doesn't match any of the model IDs the patch checks for). The devices that need it are Galaxy S2-family devices, NONE of which have received the official solution.
[Galaxy S III General] f0xy:
I hear you :( dang! ha

well anyhows they have just replied to my tweet, but unsure if its a step forward or another hurdle

https://twitter.com/SamsungSupport/status/256060662596395009

just send @SamsungJohn a tweet to see if we can get some kind of update/proof they are actually taking us serious

Regards
[Galaxy S III General] bullyfrog:
From what i read about our xda devs previous encounters with him, he's next to useless..full of empty promises..
[Galaxy S III General] anup123456:
https://twitter.com/SamsungJohn

this guy can help us..

He updates sources on opensource.samsung.com

Let's tweet him ? :)
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
That guy lied us straight up in the face back in the SGS2 days.
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Just wrote this message to The Verge:
[Galaxy S III General] baza14:
It seems it's only very good PR for Samsung for now. Many sites posted articles about their tweet even they didn't release nothing so far.
[Galaxy S III General] :
Yup :thumbup:

Sent from my LT30p
[Galaxy S III General] sodeknetters:
Thanks for sharing. Good article, compact, precise and (by the looks of it) pretty realistic
[Galaxy S III General] :
But now they have to because of this tweet.
[Galaxy S III General] conantroutman:
Ffs.....

Tell me you're kidding.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
They don't have to. That tweet meant nothing of value. I hope they release those sources, but they're not bound by anything to release anything other than the kernel source, really.
[Galaxy S III General] f0xy:
Nothing from Samsung today :(
[Galaxy S III General] christan:
sent a letter on source code page and posted a tweet at samsungexynos :good: lets hope we can get sth out of this crap ...
[Galaxy S III General] Kaar3l:
+1
[Galaxy S III General] Jmldsilva:
+1
[Galaxy S III General] djluis48:
You should really extend this campaign to other Exynos devices. Selected ones. Like the GS2 and all of its variants. The more people, the better.
[Galaxy S III General] :
Yes thats true, however you can also write that your phone is S2 and S3 for those who got both phones or only one.

this is a great idea, now only hope that a great company will listen to the "developers"
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
What conspiracy?

I just woke up and after reading these posts it seems like a lot went on while I was asleep.

My post was deleted and I'm not sure what else was deleted.

It's not a conspiracy at all. For a long time devs have been trying to bridge the gap between xda developers and manufactures.

Over a year ago I remember Samsung made a huge leap forward and agreed to sit down and work a bit closer with developers.

Samsung got huge wraps for doing this.

It's one of the reasons I have a Samsung in my hand right now.

So Samsung got some great articles on this and XDA also benefited by Samsung helping out if there was ever problems with software/hardware... just say there was a problem with phones being bricked, developers could contact employees at Samsung and they'd release a patch or sources to fix the problem... everyone benefited.

Everyone but the people that bricked their phone.

Everyone but the developers that are still working on the eMMC brickbug.

So really only Samsung benefited.

From what I understand, (and this isn't fact. Just what I've read while here at XDA) this is what's dividing a few people here.

Some people want to keep on Samsung's good side. So Samsung keep 'helping' out.

And some people think enough is enough and realise XDA was used by Samsung's PR team.

Bottom line is that getting a boatload of people to ask for a definite answer as to whether certain source can and will be released is not hurting anyone. Nor is it giving XDA a bad name. (In my opinion)

If Samsung come out and said "these sources can't be released for legal reasons" a lot wouldn't believe it but this thread would die real fast and the world would keep spinning.

And at least we'd have a definite answer.

I don't think this will happen, I believe Samsung are hoping this thread runs out of steam.

I hope people don't let this happen and keep pushing for an answer.

*btw I could be completely wrong. Samsung could be helping out developers more than I realise. So take my opinions with a grain pfft salt. I'm just a small fish in a big dirty river, after some rainfall
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Campaign has already been extended for:

Galaxy SII I9100:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1929188

Galaxy Note N7000:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32622901

AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32624976

Edit: Sent a tip to androidpolice.com
[Galaxy S III General] GalaxyGusta:
Keep going guys the goal is giving Samsung a bad name for not releasing the sources
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
That's not the goal at all.

The goal is to get a few needed codes.

Keep some highly skilled devs from moving away from the S3

Get some Roms all buttered up.

Give Samsung some credit and extra $$$ by recommending the phone.

Everyone wins
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Yeah it`s just that Samsung doesn`t seem to get it, that it´s a win - win situation. All they got to do is release it. They would get the respect of the community and developers would continue to develop for their phones and we would buy their phones and be happy and Samsung would continue to be the best selling Smartphone manufacturer in the world. The only downside I see for them is when they don`t release it. Many people including myself would not buy an Exynos Smartphone again.
[Galaxy S III General] Jmldsilva:
I will follow CM, not SAMSUNG. That's for sure. :)
[Galaxy S III General] Sensamic:
People don't understand that they don't want to release this info and haven't done yet because they don't want their competing manufacturers to have info on their own made processors. It's like giving ammo to your enemy.

Also, who knows what they have changed in their processor. Maybe there's stuff they don't want the developers and users to know, like stuff that affects negatively to the battery or who knows what.
[Galaxy S III General] thomsch:
Done!

Enviado desde mi GT-I9100 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] hero000:
That's what I was thinking
[Galaxy S III General] Barracuda77777:
What ever the reason for them not releasing the info the developers need, I have already cancelled my order for the Note 2, I have also stopped recommending Samsung to friends and family, for the last 9 month over 30 friends and relatives based on my direct recommendation have bought either the S3, note or the s2.

I went out of my way to help them migrate from iOS to android, and the many calls i receive daily asking for help. Samsung will be wrong to assume that they will not lose money by losing people who are evangelist like us for their products. I will be buying my next device based only if CM can be installed.

My Note is running almost as fast as my s3 running cm10 although I miss the extra features that I could have if Samsung can only release the sources the devs need.
[Galaxy S III General] zebbe77:
That's what I decided some time ago but got it wrong whit the S3, thought it was more dev friendly than it is.
[Galaxy S III General] H_BM:
yeah without developer help sammy phone is just a crap
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
That's why it's struggled so much in the market, and failed to win praise or awards. Let's not kid ourselves the devs are helping unlock the potential to make a great phone even better.
[Galaxy S III General] chrisfu:
Hell, even just thorough documentation would do. As is stands the blobs are somewhat of a Pandora's box, and documentation would make them very very useful indeed. Source is just the perfect goal, with documentation being an acceptable but less-awesome alternative.
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
All the time.
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
The documentation is not for the blobs, its for the hardware, and the chances of getting hardware documentation are even slimmer than getting the source (for the blobs). Unless of course by documentation you mean header source files which would describe the interfaces exposed by the blobs, but not their inner workings.

People really need to know what they are asking for... consistency is really important.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
That's the problem with a mob, members know that Samsung have something we want! and that we should be given it now! , it's our right! how dare they withhold it from us! Let lynch the bastards..... I'm off for a lay down
[Galaxy S III General] itchy67x:
PLZ stay on topic and don't let fight again...

Samsung asked the dev's asked what they need... so it's not a problem of tech speak.
[Galaxy S III General] eitama:
+1. My thoughts exactly.
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
Ya, you're absolutely right, Samsung asked the devs what they needed and the devs told them.....A YEAR AGO. Its going to be the same thing again, I hope it isn't, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
Easier to just buy the Nexus 5 when it drops. Tired of Samsung's charade.
[Galaxy S III General] RazielSasy:
I also have given my contribution to the cause :good:
[Galaxy S III General] devilabit:
+1 for contacting OSRC

In case anyone is interested I also changed the wording slightly, see below.
[Galaxy S III General] :
OP updated! Your request sounds better than the other one. :good:
[Galaxy S III General] itchy67x:
I know that and i'm just realy hoping that this time ist not just PR **** that's all... or it will be my first and last samsung phone...

had never been gone away from nexus line :silly:
[Galaxy S III General] stefanACM:
Sent
[Galaxy S III General] 007shaolin:
going for nexus on my next mobile to. Samsung dont care about costumers anymore, they are getting to big and arrogant.
[Galaxy S III General] da.trute:
Yeah, cos google are a small company who never do anything wrong :)

Nobody gives a sh1t about their customers these days, its all about bucks, you are still better off getting the best spec phone at the time of buying, I never buy a phone based on customer service, its all about the phone for me.
[Galaxy S III General] itchy67x:
but right now google fits my needs more than samsung or htc..
[Galaxy S III General] egzthunder1:
Hate to break it to you but google doesn't make phones. And you just mentioned the names of two out of three companies that have participated in the nexus program :p

Justsayin

Sent from mALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!
[Galaxy S III General] egzthunder1:
This...

Sent from mALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
If Samsung doesn't give us what we need in max two months, I will stop recommending Samsung phones to friends.
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
.....ding...ding......seconds out....round 2.....:p
[Galaxy S III General] ysrini:
Done

Using it right now :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S III General] vertrag:
im from sgs2 user and i support this movement.. #**** to SoC makers that not, less cooperate with the community..
[Galaxy S III General] respider:
same here. In 2 months I'll get next nexus and stop buying samsung phones

If I'd like to buy a closed source phone I'd buy an iphone :angel: :confused:

I blame myself for not researching about this before buying though
[Galaxy S III General] devilabit:
Sure, just provide a link to my post in the OP as well, thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] itchy67x:
thx for advise :p...

but realy the "one x" sucks it's getting hot like hell and the bootloader is half open...

the gs3 sucks the other way arround ;)...

edit. and yes i have booth phones and my lovely nexus one
[Galaxy S III General] kroat999:
we are on http://www.androidpit.de/exynos-samsung-cyanogenmod
[Galaxy S III General] FunkAndSoda:
I sent an email to androidpit yesterday and asked them to support us.
[Galaxy S III General] jrxtepan:
Form Filled!

1 more to go... I filled my request... :)

(even tho I have a SGSII but it doesn't matter :cyclops: )
[Galaxy S III General] w1nter456:
Hi, I just post all over the facebook to request a proper documentation source code from them. Hope it helps.
[Galaxy S III General] dboechat:
http://sammyhub.com/2012/10/11/sams...eed&utm_campaign=Feed:+samsunghub+(Sammy+Hub)
[Galaxy S III General] tylerdurden83:
One of Italy's most famous tech blogs: http://samsung.hdblog.it/2012/10/11/sviluppatori-in-difficolta-per-la-mancanza-di-documentazione-adeguata-sui-nuovi-soc-exynos/
[Galaxy S III General] :
Done.