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[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Not really demanding them, more like, them learning to accept the frustration of users who want an open system if they only release closed or semi closed systems, they can do what they want, what they cant expect is customers who care about these things, to accept articificial restriction, that limit progress, as an acceptable thing, but yes your right, they can do what they want, they can cater to the currently niche market, or run the POSSIBLE risk of their CURRENT actions finally biting them in the ass years from now, if that niche market becomes dominant.......do the smart thing now, or the damage control later,.....they may never even feel the effects, but why run the risk, when its just documentation we're asking for........oh, im sure theres a reason, theres gotta be right, otherwise why havent they release it, big or small, theres a reason, just wished they'd tell us what it was,..........as these patitions would be more affective if we knew the honesr reasons

Ill give an example

Bought the tf201, terrible i/o issues, no gps, wifi/blutooth issues, build quality not so great.......waiting, waiting, for asus to fix in hopes most problems can be fixed by software.........in the end, after many months, full refund, and a note10.1 purchase, and many tf201 users have done the same............now for me, i luv my note, ill play with it for a while, but i know once the novelty has worn of, and i start seing great things coming out from the the dev comm, and samsung have moved onto their next product, dropping support for current products with alot more life to give, i wont be buying a samsung product on principle, as in vote with my wallet, because they wont listen when we ask nicely, we're helping them in this respect, most of the times companies will have to go out and ask consumers what they want to then create it, if they cant see this gift horse, then theres something not quite right
[Galaxy S III General] undercover:
Oh, tell me about TFP... Went through 8 (eight) of them. Settled with ipad 2 and very happy with it.

Looks like if one is into the whole Dev community, he has to bite the bullet and stick with nexus line regardless of its limitations. :( That's the way it's going.

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[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
You see, you and me, perfect example for samsung...........please samsung dont be foolish enough to stop the count at two

Is there anyone here who has experience with polls, maybe explain a little the possible outcomes, i.e. the amount polled to achieve accuracy on predicting real world outcomes, or any titbits that may be relavant, favourable or not, i'd still like to see it

Perhaps a detailed analysis on our poll may help this cause if we have marketing language to copy and paste to samsung, assuming its favourable, if not, i guess it'll take a few more years
[Galaxy S III General] NuK3DoOM:
I hope they really help the developers.
[Galaxy S III General] :
How about creating a group on LinkedIn? I think it can be very effective. ;)
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Maybe as a informative post, to the linkd crowd who happen to have an exynos product, i dont think we can count on showing numbers

Something simple can make a big difference, some information we who are following the thread take for granted, like, "open source enthusiasts, if you have an exynos based product i.e. list of products, and dont like closed systems which may have experienced on an apple product, let me tell you why samsung may not be any different"

Perhaps a brief description, outlining the situation, noob friendly explanation why that bad (long term support by devs, after manufacturers drop support, fast update etc etc)

Perhaps mention all devs who have commented about it, and if thoses devs are okay with it, add some quotes, particularly quotes mentioning devs dropping support due to lack of manufacturer support

At the bottom, mention the petition, "if you disagree with samsungs stance, if youd lke to hear more , there is a partition you may be interested..........."

Include link to this thread, with enough info for them to participate if they want without having to go to another site i.e. this thread

Samsung contact details, fb, twitter etc etc........tech sites who have covered the story, youve got most the info on op, most would be a copy and paste job, perhaps a few extra sentences here and there, to explain things some of us are already accustomed to

Making a linkedl account would help, but i think it would be the next time this flairs up once samsungs silence has lasted another couple of months, DEFINATLY a good idea, but i dont think we should expect anything, at least not instantly............are we even allowed to do that on linkedl?a petition account
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
I can't see anyone with a linkedin account wanting to abuse it in that way to be honest....not the best business practise tbh ;)
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Unless it can be themed in a way the meets the purpose of linkedl, id have to agree with slappy, shame, this is how you spread these things.(although, almost in all cases, slowly, think htc)......maybe an fb page, if theres not one already, although samething, more informational then to garner support, and let the chips fall where they wil
[Galaxy S III General] undercover:
You guys need to stop throwing resources around and concentrate at one thing. Facebook or Twitter looks good. And keep trying to get more people to sign the petition. One thing for sure, too many people can't be arsed. Everyone has to pull the finger out and do it, not once, but again again and again until they give in. I am seeing exactly the same thing as you with my campaign, not enough people that care for real. Stark contrast to the "htc unlock bootloader" that ran last year. That one was great, loads of support from everyone.

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[Galaxy S III General] :
Just came across Samsung developers Twitter, it seems to me that this is the most relevant Twitter account for us.

https://twitter.com/samsung_dev
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
How should I write a twitter post to make it sound straightforward yet not demanding?
[Galaxy S III General] Ensifolk:
Hell Yeah

I regret selling my Galaxy Nexus for the GS III ! I'm an X S1, S2, Note user as well! And if it's gonna be like that from now on with Exynos processors, Im never buying a Samsung again. Awaiting any Nexus device that has a screen of 4.8 - 5 inch ... HTC Nexus 5 ! I hope :(
[Galaxy S III General] mariosraptor:
I believe we must be demanding. The soft way does not pay. So let's pay Sammy the hard way. Boycott. I have suggested the S3 and S2 to many people as a mobile phone shop owner.

I can very easily suggest any other good product.

Everyone should do the same until they change the way they treat us and do not see us customers as money bags!
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
That place looks promising
[Galaxy S III General] putero:
The code

Give us the ****ing code!!! Its Open Source!!!
[Galaxy S III General] conantroutman:
Sigh......

Read the thread :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
Fixed that for you.
[Galaxy S III General] b3ndech0:
+1 !
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
I'll give Sammy a few more months. If nothing's happened by then (which nothing will), I'll start suggesting Sony phones to whoever asking for advice. Not HTC, because locked bootloader, never again Sammy for unwillingness to cooperate to make a better android world.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
:good:

Let me finish that thought for you

"......even though i think your hardware is top notch, in the meantime will not in anyway shape or form advertise for you on a user level due to your lacluster software support, mainly third party dev support, thankyou"

:highfive:

On a personal note, i mean to give samsung time, everything i write is the possibility on how i may contribute, if asking nicely is ignored, on a persnal timescale, i'd say 2 to 5 months, because, perhaps you do need time, but if theres no word in that timescale, ill just assume you dnt care, and you can count me as a lost customer, yes lost, not gained, lost, until you change your stance,........thats not meant to be an ultimatum, im simply saying, your product will lack something i want, and if OTHERS provide, well, ask apple what THAT feels like..........and for the luv of christ, dont resort to suing , yours sincerly, a hopefull customer :)

Just a thought, will samsung consider being compared to apple a good thing, or a bad thing............i have sneaky suspicion profits will say, a good thing, oh well, lets see how apple does over the next few years. You can copy all you want, as copying good things is the natural course of improving and old idea, we wouldnt be where we are, without the evil deed of copying /gasp, but dont copy the bad things, bad samsung....bad..

Sidethought edit

The accusation of copying and the resulting law suits, with you know who, id be willing to bet which community has the most loudest voice, not necassarilly the most, but perhaps the loudest, in oposition to that company that shall not be named............apple............sheet, dammit....$%$.....

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If its a new place, perhaps kind curtious simple and straight to the point.

If others have already posted, give them another user to count, +1 if need be, although a word or two may be better, especially if you can charm the pants off them................yes, thats the one, lets maranade them, lets maranade the hell out of samsung ......with the love songs, .............hey, *shrugs* FEELS like weve already done everything else, .........for now :)

Honestly, go with your heart dude

And without further ado

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Yep, i went there.........ear.to.ear.grin
[Galaxy S III General] gavin-phelan:
Peeps if takes months even a year/s so what just think as long as we stand together and keep demanding what we deserve we will recieve as without the customers any company would not be what it is today so dont give up. Theres not a day that goes by that i dont write to samsung demanding what was and should be available in the first place

#freethegalaxy :cool::thumbup:
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
I reckon we should elect a leader here, one voice if you will, no no no no, wait, just wait, and then somehow, now bare with me here, somehow have him meet with samsungs top enchalada, and then have our guy marry off his son, to their guys daughter......

1-marriage

2-better relations

3-documents

4-profit

Whadduya think?can we do it

:D:D:D

Gotta have some fun, relief the stress man, although my apologies for exposing you guys to z-grade jokes
[Galaxy S III General] Turbotab:
Here is a code for you, maybe try compiling it

01100110 01110101 01100011 01101011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 00001101 00001010
[Galaxy S III General] b-eock:
Haha XD i doubt he knows binary

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Wow now i just read that. Little harsh dont you think?
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Nuclear codes?Bomb them? politely? :silly:

Disclaimer

I in no way shape or form endorse using wmd's on samsung, duh.....:angel:
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
I tip my hat to you sir.

Very clever! ;)
[Galaxy S III General] Turbotab:
Sony is far from perfect, inserting no-sue clauses into PS3 firmware updates, not updating 2011 phones to JB, and making the rest wait until Q1 2013. On the plus side, Xperia T seems to running CM 10 without any issues, thanks to decent Qualcomm support.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/19/3525420/sony-xperia-jelly-bean-update-announcement
[Galaxy S III General] Galaid:
It would be good to explain to Average Joe what features would we get if Sammy open The source.

- smoother butter (even smoother than stock?)

- fm radio on cm1x

- hdmi on cm1x

- ...
[Galaxy S III General] :
We didn't hear from them since 12th... :(
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
AFAIK, it isn't hdmi or fm driver sources were even asking for.
[Galaxy S III General] Crunozaur:
tweeted/liked the facebook page. you have my support~!
[Galaxy S III General] schrickm5:
I have suggested to my friends and family :

Wife S2

Mother in law G Nexus

Father in law S3

Wife's sister S2

Wife's sisters husband S2

Me S2, G,Nexus, now S3

My boss S3

I should have been a phone sales man instead of an accountant.

Getting a bit tired of not being able to get a CM10 rom that has successfully implemented the teams original expectations due to this issue.

Looks like it will be LG for me next also.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
+1
[Galaxy S III General] SiriusCybernetik:
LOL You mean 'Mothership' like in 'V'?

:D:D:D
[Galaxy S III General] dark_polok:
+2 :D
[Galaxy S III General] CallMeVentus:
Now this is what happens when a company gets famous .

Their attitude for sharing changes :)

Sent from Ursa's claws.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
The apple affect
[Galaxy S III General] Galaid:
The benefits of insisting on sources are not clear to the people. You and me included. :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] gavin-phelan:
I see that xhanfire wrote on twitter that he hopes samsungdevsus hand out sources later and he and samsungdevus were at the big android bbq so im wondering if he was talking to them?

Sent from the third galaxy B)
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
He replied to me quicker than Samsung.

I hope they grill the Samsung reps... Get some more pressure on. :D
[Galaxy S III General] :
Let's hope for the best! :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S III General] dumb donkey:
Samsung developers session is streaming live from big android bbq now, check XDA portal for link. They have already said they'll be talking about exynos source and we'll probably find the outcome of this campain soon enough! lets hope for some good news! :)
[Galaxy S III General] TheCraig:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LyYXh1V8ov8 - We don't care about the S Pen, WE WANT EXYNOS SOURCES!
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
While I do appreciate that they brought it up, I doubt we'll see more than an apology from Samsung today. Still hoping for the best!
[Galaxy S III General] vistagamer:
I'm also hoping for the best!
[Galaxy S III General] dumb donkey:
I agree, just being optimistic :rolleyes:. The first thing they mentioned was they don't want to be flamed and pleading with people to be nice in the Q&A session later. Doesn't sound too promising.
[Galaxy S III General] sargorn:
*blink blink*
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Did he just say what I think he just said?
[Galaxy S III General] sargorn:
Mhm.
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
I think we can call that

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:D
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
I had a hard time understanding it myself, but hopefully what it all means is that we'll have the full source by 2013?
[Galaxy S III General] TheCraig:
I think I heard Exynos 2013, the quality is terrible but...

If I'm right:

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[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
They just need to release it quicktime...

They said ''over the coming weeks the parts of necessary sources will be released to community.'. I'll believe it when I see it tho...

If this truly comes off all the doubters and negative people in this thread can be very proud of themselves.
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Positive. :D
[Galaxy S III General] kobazik:
Believe it or not ?

@ChainfireXDA: "It seems Samsung is saying there will be sourcecode for the needed Exynos parts... I'm not sure it's everything TeamHacksung needs, ..."

@ChainfireXDA: "... but I'm sure they'll let us know. It all sounds very promising though. First stuff should be seen in weeks, complete before 2013."

"After months of speculation, Exynos will go open source!!!"

http://www.sammobile.com/2012/10/21...nos-will-go-open-source/#.UIRNmGlUJEg.twitter
[Galaxy S III General] Zatta:
Looks like we achieved something here, pretty unexpected good news, I hope I'm not misinterpreting stuff..

Taptalked u see .. əəs n pəʞlɐʇdɐʇ
[Galaxy S III General] magarto:
That's great! Awesome!

Enviado desde mi Samsung Galaxy S2 usando Tapatalk
[Galaxy S III General] TheCraig:
Awesome today for me, Got my S3 today, and the Exynos sources were released! (Fix: They probably will be released)
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
Waiting on the response from someone that actually knows something so that we don't celebrate for nothing. ;)
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
Looks like I won't be selling my S3 after all.

Hopefully they aren't just saying they will release just to shut us up and then not release when everything dies down again.
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Wow, seems we actually achieved something here :D:D:D

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this.

http://www.sammobile.com/2012/10/21...nos-will-go-open-source/#.UIRNmGlUJEg.twitter
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
That won't happen as they just made a commitment in front of a lot of influencial people, and it would cost them dearly not to keep their promise.
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
WELL DONE TO EVERYONE'S EFFORTS HERE!! AND CODEWORKX AND ESPECIALLY ENTROPY512. And ANTONLIV92 AND MANCITY FOR STARTING THIS THREAD. WE JUST NEED SAMSUNG TO HURRY UP NOW!!

ITS NOT IF - BUT WHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL THE NEGATIVE PEOPLE AND DOUBTERS THAT HAVE POLLUTED THIS THREAD FROM EARLY ON SHOULD BE THOROUGHLY ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. :mad:

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!
[Galaxy S III General] mikey199:
Woot woot! Great news!
[Galaxy S III General] :
Gotta say... I doubted this campaign. I didn't think it would work.... So well done to everyone who contributed :)

Victory is yours. Cheers guys!
[Galaxy S III General] hectorcore:
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow, TY men for your hardwork, Mission completed, Codeworkx, gohanmoral, My respects, can back to the development of the S3.

Sorry for my eng
[Galaxy S III General] ricey1986:
Booyaaa well done everyone big pat on the back
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Maybe me stirring up a little trouble here and getting banned for 10 days was worth it after all!!

:cool:
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
Seriously guys, stop celebrating before this is confirmed by somebody in the know.
[Galaxy S III General] nucgaek:
Pretty sure the second dot point confirms it

"proprietary binaries for these platforms... " which includes exynos 4
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Well its not going backwards so it's good enough for me. They promised very specific things WERE asked for and REQUIRED.

It would be a cluster**** of epic proportions on Samsungs part to not do what was on that slide.
[Galaxy S III General] jonny68:
Well done to all concerned:good:
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Well done lads,

:D

Lets hope they deliver, if nothing else, we got more ideas on who to contact the next time, hopefully there wont be a next time, so under the assumtion that samsung will finally deliver, i say thanks samsung, and more importantly the individuals at samsung that made this possible, thankx to you guys and gals :D

Edit: oh, and how can i ever forget, BIG thanks to all you guys, users, devs, thanks for taking the initiative, keeping the pressure, and crossing the finishing line...........you guys rock

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[Galaxy S III General] Mr Woolf:
I hope all the negative doubters who whined "you're doing it all wrong" "you'll only wind them up""they won't listen to you - you're not polite enough" "I'm on you're side, I'm just playing Devils advocate" will now suck back and join me in congratulating all involved.

(all those doubters involved (and they know who they are) seem to be very busy elsewhere at the moment.........)
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Seems like they are serious about this: :D
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
Here's to hoping it is a good result, and here's to all the people that stemmed the tide of abusive comments that were getting posted, which were never any advantage to anyone. ;)
[Galaxy S III General] Hybridesque:
Looks promising, will believe it when we see it. When do we chase them up?
[Galaxy S III General] pulser_g2:
What they have promised is not what is required - we need specific things. Samsung are offering sources which are already available (in some form or another) for their development board.

What matters is the code and documentation for the PHONES.

They're offering Origenboard stuff again, which will likely end up out of date, and not working on the phone implementations (ie. why does hwcomposer not work from the origenboard on the s2 or s3?)
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Yes, they have gone very quiet!!!

We'll see what happens in a few weeks... Fingers crossed!
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
So basically they are providing you with the sources you already have. That's just great... :(
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
stop making a complete and utter prick of yourself :cool:
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Wished youd come along earlier, boy do i feel silly, getting caught up with good feelings......damn these good feelings :silly:

Looks like we need more info here, before celebrating
[Galaxy S III General] pulser_g2:
I'd not gloat quite yet... I notice you berate mods and other senior XDA users, but haven't actually awoken to what the developers are saying:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33092439&postcount=10618

Yes... they gave you something. You have fallen in to their trap! As such you're just making yourself look silly here by gloating... You have nothing to gloat about, have a look at what has ACTUALLY been promised, and what wasn't mentioned.

1) RIL

2) Yamaha Audio

3) Anything platform related like *phone* HWCompser/HAL

That announcement focused on the Origenboard development board, whose sources are already available (albeit old and out of date). That's not news, that's called fire-fighting...

And to see people gloating shows Samsung has "won" over you guys...
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
Beat me to the punch. I was just about to post that link.

Sad, but it helps me make up my mind to dump the S3 as soon as theirs a better option in the Nexus arena.
[Galaxy S III General] pulser_g2:
Oh he does it all the time, trying to put himself onto a high horse...

Unfortunately in his excitement at trying to get cheap digs at people, he didn't actually READ what was said... He just believed the hype that's out there...

Let's take a calm response, let's see what happens, but what was promised is NOT what was requested...

Either way... Samsung have lost sales, as I was about to buy a Note2... But now I won't :)
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
Join the nexus boat whydon'tya? ;)
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Great :crying::crying::crying::crying:
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Glad to see you are still checking in. I forgot you are ALWAYS on here. ;)

Well - I'll either sell my S3 or I won't. I don't especially care now. If it turns out this was all smokescreen bull**** then so be it. That bridge will be irreparable burned with Samsung. As it will be with many people here. If there's no new information in the next few weeks like they said I'll be disappointed. But not surprised unfortunately.

I love winding you lot up btw. :p
[Galaxy S III General] :
It's still not over..!
[Galaxy S III General] hectorcore:
Let us continue the fight
[Galaxy S III General] da.trute:
People use it a lot, George from Samsung on facebook is able to look into cases, move them along and provide updates etc.
[Galaxy S III General] Tenacious:
What don't you post this in other exynos forums, all international Samsung phones and tablets are using exynos this way you can get even more people on this.
[Galaxy S III General] :
:eek:

Only the SGSIII and the Note II are using Exynos CPU.
[Galaxy S III General] Tenacious:
No sgs 2,note,note 2 etc. are all exynos
[Galaxy S III General] atulalvenkar:
No. SGS2 and Note I use Exynos CPU as well.
[Galaxy S III General] stefankorun:
Dont focus on the USA pages as s3 got snapdragon over there.
[Galaxy S III General] lozfromcorby:
update the entry of the s3 on wikipedia to highlight our plight. companies check their wiki entries all the time for bad press/spin.

will post on the facebook pages after work. :D