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[Galaxy S III General] stefankorun:
For all the haters after the release - you are some ungrateful pricks! I hade Optimus 3d and LG didn't respond to ANY of our many spams and messages about an issue much bigger than releasing source sodes - the phone didn't received calls literally for some time after GB update.

Samsung on the other hand: 1. responded right away (generic response or not doesnt matter) 2. gave you a proper response (will or won't they release the sources) 3.the answer was positive.

So shut yourselves about camera or other fu*cking additional drivers and be happy for what you get.
[Galaxy S III General] AndreiLux:
That's the more important part.
[Galaxy S III General] DrGomez:
Amen to that. The O3D incident was pretty much a big scandal and NOONE gave a sh.it
[Galaxy S III General] b-eock:
Yeah it is something, but that something might as well be nothing. Its on the OrigenBoard platform. So its OLD, doesnt directly relate to the phones processor source, and will be buggy.
[Galaxy S III General] AndreiLux:
It would be appropriate for people who have no knowledge of things to stop spreading uninformed idiocy throughout the forum.
[Galaxy S III General] jshashwat93:
So are you implying everything required is going to be released by Samsung?
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
So there it is.
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
I think a quick spam of 'thanks' on Samsung social media pages wouldn't hurt. Give them a bit of good publicity..

Give a little, get a little....

After the code is released late Nov/Dec, then you can make your mind up as to where to go from there.. after the dust has settled..
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Everything? Hardly. The most important parts for us? Yes.
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
I'm no fan of thanking anyone until they have proven to be true to their words. The gratitude will come when they do release working code. Till then... I won't be giving them any credit...
[Galaxy S III General] sharingan92:
Dont you mean viva la revolution?
[Galaxy S III General] TrueNix:
Got a reply from Samsung Mobile Russia

Samsung Mobile Russia Ruslan (and everyone signed for this comment), thanks a lot for your involvement in Samsung community. We absolutely agree, that "developers are the lifeblood of the Android ecosystem". And we're very thankfull for the loyalty of Samsung Android community, you are talking about. We'll share this request with our Samsung Russia Head office. Best regards, Samsung Mobile Facebook

Link
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
I actually meant ¡Viva la Revolución!

And clearly you have some sort of dysfunction.
[Galaxy S III General] nycplayboy78:
Response From Samsung Support

I just now got this from their FaceBook page in response to my posting on there:

Samsung Support - Hi Dana, thanks for reaching out! Unfortunately, we do not have any info on this. I will pass this information on for further evaluation. We appreciate your feedback. Thanks!

3 minutes ago · Unlike · 1

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Hey guys is this of any help as it pertains to the current situation?

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/08/samsung-releases-galaxy-note-ii-source-code/
[Galaxy S III General] :
No...
[Galaxy S III General] ManCityFC:
It's crucial we keep doing this everybody. As I said, the message content isn't really important as long as it gets the request through. We can succeed here.....but persistence pays.

The message seems to be getting across, and the fact they don't seem to be deleting posts is positive, and the replies are encouraging. This is a very savvy company. They know we will all stick together and keep this coming and they know full well how important we are to them. Arrogant? Maybe. But it's a fact. They will have noted HTC's fall from grace with the developers and enthusiasts, and will have noted peoples interest in Sony all of a sudden. They will also be reading this thread....make no mistake about that. They will have noted that this is organised and will want to know what the source is, so be polite. Ha Ha.

I'm going to hit them again tonight, and tomorrow night, and the night after.......an so on, because we need to ensure this doesn't run out of steam.

Good work everybody! Up the revolution.

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A nicely timed release to counter what we are doing no doubt. Oldest trick in the book. Ignore it and carry on. :banghead:
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
Posted on G+
[Galaxy S III General] braudrist:
Can the source codes for the Exynos not be cracked by some genius or is it just impossible? Just curious :D
[Galaxy S III General] RoadXY:
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...veloper-support-for-exynos-based-phones-r1151

This is not directly related but part of the quest
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Just sent that inquiry.

Erased my email in paint.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
I'd love this to work, but we're small fry they've sold 20 million plus devices without making the sources available so I'm not going to hold my breath. HTC showed that couldn't care less for the development community over the DHD upgrade fiasco so I don't really expect Samsung to react that differently, certainly the rssponses were getting mirror the positive HTC replies received in the past and don't forget these are PR people well versed in quietening down public dissatisfaction. Keeping the issue in the public eye is what needs to be done though and keeping our fingers crossed.
[Galaxy S III General] ManCityFC:
Guys, I have just tweeted @samsungmobile and copied in about 60 or 70 devs and other prominent people in the Android community. (even a Mr Rubin!)

Anton, can you add this to the OP. We don't want to bombard devs with tweets. It only needs doing once then they can choose to re-tweet or not (I have asked for a re-tweet).

Edit: @Baadnwz Has just re-tweeted. Excellent!! Thanks Adrian!

Edit 2: Capychimp has also. Get in! Thanks Capy!
[Galaxy S III General] mikeydoo_20012:
@SamsungExynos this account just posted this...

ROM developers: Samsung releases Android 4.1 kernel source and other open-source bits for Exynos-equipped Galaxy S3 http://bit.ly/OacykK

Everyone reply with what we need... :)
[Galaxy S III General] Net.silb:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/contact-us
[Galaxy S III General] mikereidis:
We're not talking about a few special numeric codes writable on a single page.

We're talking about MANY thousands (100s-1000s of thousands ?) of "lines" of source code, and documentation to understand it.

One certified genius might be able to reconstruct it, in perhaps hundreds to thousands of years of full time work.

Reverse engineering is easily 10 to hundreds of times as much work as "forward engineering".

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I would also like to see the code and docs for the audio libraries.
[Galaxy S III General] anup123456:
https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos

Need to bomb here.. :P
[Galaxy S III General] Fisken:
Done, on all FB but one, FB think i'm spamming the pages so now i can't post on page's wall the next 15 days :good:
[Galaxy S III General] ManCityFC:
Thanks Mate. I have tweeted them too.

You can all check my Twitter account @MitchLambert to see who I have tweeted, and if I have missed anyone, then feel free to jump in and tweet them.

Great work. This is really gathering steam now. Excellent!! :good:
[Galaxy S III General] :
Exactly...
[Galaxy S III General] AndreiLux:
No I was just saying he's talking out of his ass, the Origen board isn't old hardware. Over in the CM thread people are now starting to say it's a different old CPU /facepalm.

@wolfboy1984 Entropy is quoting the old Insignal Git that has been there for an eternity. I don't know how that makes it relevant to anything Samsung says will release in November.
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Especially Samsung, who said we will do something about the Emmc issue and still they release unsafe kernels even today. I guess they can`t blame us that most of us are very skeptical about their talk.

At the same time we at least accomplished that and I`m happy about that and now Samsung has a last chance and if they screw up again, then they will gain a very bad reputation inside the community. I really hope that they will do this right this time.

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Yeah, it wouldn`t make any reasonable sense if they would release something that is already there in one way or another or if it would be broken and absolutely unusable for AOSP.
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
Fair enough...

Fool me once... shame on.... shame on you?!

:confused::confused::confused:

Can fool me can't get fool again!

:o
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Hmmm...
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Hmmmm, indeed......i assume your talking about this whole source debacle affecting the next nexus sales, hhmmmmm indeed, .............if not, hmmmmmm, what do you mean?:D
[Galaxy S III General] stefanACM:
I think Samsung this time doesn't have chance to fail. If they release something old or useless they will have amazing response from community (there Twitter account will be bombarded as Hiroshima on August 1945. :eek:)
[Galaxy S III General] Hybridesque:
Interesting Twitter conversation off that post. We'll see what they do.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
looks similar to the old one posted by entropy or some other member :( hope im wrong
[Galaxy S III General] Eddiemc:
I hope you're right, but I'm afraid to get my hopes up. Since last week I've been hoping for a breakthrough, but this sounds way too good, way too early. If Sammy has come through already, they are really a good company. If so I won't regret investing in this hardware.

I doubt it though. Guess I'll wait for Entropy or Cody to shed some light on this. Might just be the same useless origen stuff we've already got?

But imagine if it is what we need. Wow, 4.2 could be running smoothly on our device shortly after the official release. Cm10 will improve massively.. Omg, dreams dreams dreams.. To be able to have the perfect software on my choice of hardware..
[Galaxy S III General] jhericurls:
Well Entropy just posted this over at the CM10 thread

Seems like this movement is showing fruit, when so many come into this thread saying that we're wasting our time.

Goes to show if we stand together as a community, we can make a difference.
[Galaxy S III General] AndreiLux:
They released the 5250 development board and site together with a 800 page user's manual, something which we didn't have before for any SoC. I'll have to see what they uploaded on the Git as it's quite a lot.

Edit: from what I can see at first glance they have 4.1.1 Jellybean sources up there and apparently the newest stuff.
[Galaxy S III General] DeadSOL:
So... good news, eh? I never expected that! :good:
[Galaxy S III General] #illidan:
Has Christmas come early? :tearsofjoy:

I believe that there is cautious room for optimism. Samsung could actually be changing its stance from being closed to open source but only time will tell the extent of change. Based on a codeworkx post there aren't still big on open communication with developers but that shouldn't matter much of the developers contact can come good & we get the source we need.
[Galaxy S III General] ajm786:
Question. If Samsung is releasing Exynos code, does this mean that you will also be able to write custom ROMs for the Galaxy Note II? I know this is a Galaxy SIII thread, but the Note II still uses an Exynos CPU.
[Galaxy S III General] rockyseenu:
Yes. It will help entire exynos family devices :)
[Galaxy S III General] w1nter456:
Yes, but not all. Note 2 have 2GB of ram while s3 have 1GB. It will help some factors but it won't really solve the problem
[Galaxy S III General] more2come:
This seems to be really good news! Let's see what xplodwild, entropy512 or codeworkx can make of this!
[Galaxy S III General] Hybridesque:
Think part of this was coming before we started, not that I'm saying we didn't have a part to play. The Nexus 10 tablet is probably the main reason, which is good as I'm looking for a new tablet!

Because Sammy are doing the Nexus 10, they have to document and provide source for the Exynos 5 that's in it. But it's good we're getting stuff for our Exynos 4 too!

Let's hope this release of code continues and gives us reason to trust Samsung again, and it continues in a good fashion for the foreseeable future.
[Galaxy S III General] lozfromcorby:
Was just about to say same thing re nexus 10 being main reason! Sold my iPad 3 yesterday evening so hopefully have a nexus 10 to join my s3 soon enough!
[Galaxy S III General] GalaxyGusta:
That's some existing news but I'm not a developer so I don't know if it's really something exiting
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
It's not. Codeworkz said over in the CM10 thread that it's the same old crap.
[Galaxy S III General] :
Entropy512 said over in the CM10 thread that it could be something interesting to play with this weekend. :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S III General] w1nter456:
It is old, it is ICS. He said could help some minor improvement, I think should be HDMI/dual display as I found it in the sources.
[Galaxy S III General] w1nter456:
Ya, i said the current sources won't help us much, but not as bad as codeworkx said.
[Galaxy S III General] Sc0rp10:
by the way the author on the git has a very interesting name :laugh::p

http://git.insignal.co.kr/samsung/exynos/android/platform/hardware/samsung_slsi/exynos4/
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
"could be" doesn't mean it is.
[Galaxy S III General] :
"could be" is better than nothing.
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
I prefer maybe! Sounds more hopeful to my simple mind :D
[Galaxy S III General] SiriusCybernetik:
So definitively not so old stuff.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Fair enough, and especially when Entropy says it! :good:
[Galaxy S III General] Sincci:
Well, at least that's much more optimistic than what Codeworkz said at the CM10 thread:

So, it's pretty clear that he has no plans to ever support Samsung devices anymore, even if Samsung would open all their Exynos documentations and sources. I respect his decision and he does have every right to do so since he doesn't owe us anything, but at the same time I wouldn't take his word as a 100% truth anymore due to his personal "vendetta" against Samsung.

I do appreciate everything that he and the rest of the Team Hacksung have done for the Samsung Galaxy communities and I do hope that eventually those "promised" sources would help the CM10 (and upcoming CM11?) development at least in some way and that it would perhaps even attract new devs to join the development crew. Anyway, it's still way too early to judge whether Samsung keeps their promise and deliver all the necessary information and sources that the devs need to make stuff work correctly. I personally would like to be at least a bit optimistic and hope that they'll release most of the stuff before the end of this year rather than overly pessimistic and not even give them a chance.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
+1 :good:
[Galaxy S III General] AndreiLux:
The Git came up a few days ago:

The Git got updated yesterday after the 5250 release.

The Git got updated again today with newer stuff. Fact is it already they have 4.1.1 tags on the repository for various things, they have much of the header files with documentation that people have been requesting (If they are the right thing or not is to be seen).

So let's just quit this daily idiocy until the stated November date by Samsung, and only then can we evaluate things.
[Galaxy S III General] cmajetic:
+1 too but it is confusing me that one dev says it looks very promising and the other one says it's pure ****...

but codeworxx is a douchebag for me, he gets a phone for free, tries to get cm10 running flawlessly for 2 weeks or so and gives up because he couldn't manage it. That is no development imo.

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9300 mit Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] Codekrypt:
You know your talking about a developer who tried really hard to improve CM10 for the I9300. Have some respect. Oh and please do not post again.

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Do we have any other devs here following the thread, who'd be willing to add their thoughts and opinions on the usefullness or not of what samsungs already released or will be releasing? Sounds like one or two of you may know a few things, if so, do you mind metioning your knowledge on the subject........dont worry, i personally, at least wont be asking you to dev for us, if you choose to id be delighted, but i leave that to you.......i just think this thread needs more dev insights
[Galaxy S III General] Eeelgen:
It's quite noticeable that _you_ haven't been around here for more than two weeks if you think it went down like that /facepalm

Afaik not even Entropy was that optimistic in his last post after having a look at the new insignal stuff
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
Well.

Finally samsung is beginning to take some action...

first, the multi window coming to it in december: http://bit.ly/QI3v9r

And, the exynos sources to soon be released: http://bitly.com/QBm3rO

both of them being good news.

Just that the delays in both of them are unknown.

Unlike HTC, samsung acts really slow.

the one x is already enjoying android 4.1.2 officially. while samsung has made us wait till december.
[Galaxy S III General] gaspernemec:
I dont think it is because of 4.1.2, but because of multi view and its optimisation? Hoes hoxes build include multi view?
[Galaxy S III General] stefankorun:
HTC just started (last 24h) rolling out JB and the version is 4.1.1 not .2 (source). Samsung got there a week or so faster.
[Galaxy S III General] Sincci:
It doesn't and 4.1.2 itself is not a big leap forward from 4.1.1. It's mostly just a few bugfixes here and there and some minor ui tweaks. I wouldn't really stress about getting that 0.0.1 release when 4.2 is coming out on monday.
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Codeworkx was the man who brought CM10 for the I9100 by fixing one serious problem we were having, No sound and he was somehow able to fix it. I have a lot of respect for codeworkx but it's clear of course that he hates Samsung for their undocumented crap in the past and who could blame him? Let's just wait and see what Samsung has to offer this time.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
There will always be a new upcoming dev to replace the missing. Mayb not instantly but i assure you there will. Dont think that one dev is the answer to all your prayers. You will see . May even be better who knows may have 5 new devs to replace 3 who leave. There is always a new generation that will move in and take over.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
+1 :good:

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+1 :good:

Edit. Sorry for plus one posts, ran out of thanks, hope thats cool......good point lads
[Galaxy S III General] Puenos:
First.. multi window intel was from sammobile.. wouldnt be the first time they got it wrong and the community hyped up for nothing..

2nd.. Samsung also talks alot.. actions need to be taken.. not the first time.. just look at S3 JB? They told the world "soon". And soon can mean tomorrow.. next month.. or half a year..

3rd.. dont think its quite fair to compare Samsung to HTC.. afaik HTC uses Snapdragon from Qualcomm? It's a processor used in a few different devices, no?

And QC seemed afaik in the past quite nice regarding devs..

Exynos on the other hand is Samsung specific. No other manufacturer uses this architecture.. even though its ARM too..

So there are obvious quite some differences quite can't be taken lightly..
[Galaxy S III General] uvaman:
Did guys from Team H received from community 2 Sammie's ? If I am right they did so without them we wouldnt have anything from the TH..So with receiving SGS3 he still had some obligation to the ones who bought the devices..Thay dont need to have anything torwards Samsung but community def. So I cant quite agree with codeX and how he left this project. He is in personal war... And dont forget guys people are comming and going off, nobody will be here forever,not code,not xplo,faraby or even Chain...

We are moving forward and for codeX : Man enjoy with your new toys and see ya in Exynos 5,6,7 - Galaxy line THREADS ;)
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
Codeworkx has great knowledge, I'd really appreciate that, but his attitude towards s3 is so poor from day one, there are more points to talk about his attitude ;) but people care about that? No... All they need is a working aosp rom at any cost...

Now codeworkx lovers don't pounce on me:p

《swagged from aokp》
[Galaxy S III General] phunkycow:
(Offtopic)

AFAIK Team Hacksung got those S3's from Samsung, not the community. But even if that wasn't the case, they have _no_ obligation to continue development. It's a hobby, not a fulltime job.
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
I wish people would just stop talking about developers and what they might/might not do, etc.....and just leave it to them to do the talking......we seem to have a new breed......developer fanboyz.....****ing ridiculous!
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
The point is, we need devs to tell us the merit of how good and worthwile the code is, beccause i dont know about you, but my pragraming skills are pretty rusty :read: non existent:)

In respect to devs, we need one, old blood, new blood, doesnt matter, as long as they understand whats being released, and to let those like me know, whether the code is trully worthwile,..........but thats up to them, personally, i am in no way shape or form trying to demand or rush 'em........just hoping that we dont have another false start, like last time........
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
I agree, that is why I stay out of this thread at the moment.....I have no programming skills,zilch,nada, none at all! The developers I'm sure will inform us, as and when they get to sit down and look through God knows how much code, and then see if it will provide any enhancements for our device.

All that is happening here right now is people quoting, re-quoting, relating out of context, out of date and as usual just trying to stamp their egos all over each other.........now let's face it, if you consider yourself qualified to talk knowledgeably about this stuff, then the chances are you also know what to do with it.....if not, then?.....I will leave the rest to your imaginations......in the meantime, go helps some noobs or something constructive rather than engaging in ego wars and bull****!

Rant over :D

Ps, this isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but y'all get ma drift ;):D
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
My imagination says"what the hell you just say to me":silly:

No worries man, and yeah i agree with what you say, just sometimes........:eek:.......you know.......
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
ha ha.....seriously it wasn't aimed at you at all, I only quoted you to say I agreed with you.....it was aimed at the general zeitgeist of this thread at the present time :D
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
No hard feelings at all my friend.........i honestly agree with alot of points you've made, level headed straight talk and to the point, i can appreciate that .......bros before ho.....well, ....ya know :D
[Galaxy S III General] Hybridesque:
How are you able to tell they are updating it?
[Galaxy S III General] pulser_g2:
I don't think TeamHacksung received any SGS3s from Samsung... So they have no obligation to anyone. They do NOT owe the community anything. And they do not owe you anything.

The community didn't buy them AFAIK, and even if they did, everything is on an implies best effort basis - it's like how TCP/IP works :) (look it up if you don't get what I mean :D)

Personal war... but it's not so personal when there's plenty of people involved on it... I for one won't be buying more crap from Samsung without proper sources meaning I can run WHAT I WANT on it, WHEN I WANT. And I think you should fully support any developers saying the same, rather than accusing them of being engaged in personal wars...
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Agreed.