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[Miscellaneous Android Development] Giorgi-geo:
downloaded gapps thanks.

i can play 720p youtube videos, but video is slow compared to audio, like slow-mo video. phone cant handle it. is it the same for you?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
Hmm, youtube video.... I know that my 8-bit 720p video's can play, but not 10-bit. I'm not sure what type youtube video's are. Perhaps running programs make it slow too, when I watch video, I have nothing running in the background :laugh:
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Giorgi-geo:
they are 8 bit, about 3mb/s bit-rate.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
Bad news everyone: I lost my entire Ubuntu installation. All my work, and all my backups of it is lost, except for my repository on Github, which is the only good news out of that.

The bad part is I now have one dead drive, and 1 hard drive I can no longer use for Ubuntu. Even though I regenerated the sectors on it, Ubuntu won't start so I have to start over, which means I have to use a new hard drive, which was graciously loaned to me, and I have to set it up all over again. Which will take bandwidth, and my costs are just going up and I'm losing more data. So I ask for everyone to have patience, as I said before, I want to continue doing this work, and the least that I am asking now is to just wait.

Probably your card is fragmented. You said the audio plays fine? I think 3MB/s video bitrate is too fast for our phone, the best I can manage is 1500KB/s :(

Now have you tried overclocking? ;)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] pizzaboy192:
2 suggestions: use a few cheap USB flash disks to hold your important projects. Keep a clone on your main HDD, but keep the important stuff on the USB drives. they're cheap, and when they fail, you can still read from them.

Also: don't install over your previous Ubuntu install. Just install along side and access the failed drive. It should still be recoverable.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
I virtualize Ubuntu. On the day I was to offload all my files from Ubuntu, that's when I noticed Ubuntu was acting slower than usual (the drive it's on is 7200RPM).

So now my only problem is time and internet bandwidth necessary to set up Ubuntu again. My kernel is safe on Github, but any changes I was working on are gone. Since what I was working on didn't work, I have to start back to the beginning, Rerun build #119. That's not a problem, but my bandwidth is limited, and I have well over 1GB to download when I install Ubuntu (OS update, development environment, kernel cloning and toolchain downloads). Everything else, such as kernels of other devices, I used github's "download as tar" to save to my windows drive, so those are fine.

At least my brain didn't crash like my hard drives. I already know where to resume, so time is most important right now.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Giorgi-geo:
If anyone wants flash player, in my experience this one worked the best. i tried other versions but they lagged more

http://www.mediafire.com/?872334a3gee98yb
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
Sorry about the delays, I managed to reinstall my Ubuntu.

I have CDMA testing for anyone who wants to, please use the LGNPST method to default to CDMA, and download attached files and root copy the .so files into /system/lib/, and put the build.prop file into /system. This is for Gingerbread 2.3.7, the non-cyanogenmod ROM

NOTE: CDMA testing is different, you might need to tell the phone your carriers name. For example these two lines in build.prop:

ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric=310120 <--find your carriers numeric code

ro.cdma.home.operator.alpha=Verizon <-carrier's name​

Also keep in mind these 2 lines:

ro.ril.def.preferred.network = 4

ro.telephony.default_network = 4​

That is the network the phone tries to find when you turn it on. If your phone cannot get a signal, change to 3, or 2, or 1 or 0. I cannot test these as there is no CDMA service where I am at. You might also need your carrier's sim card in the phone. For example, my phone came with a Verizon sim card.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] pizzaboy192:
I have some free time coming up between now and next week, so I will try it out then. My phone has no contract, but i should hopefully be able to place a call to Verizon's activation network. No way to test 3G as of now, unless I want to try ESN cloning. I don't want to trying ESN cloning though.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Giorgi-geo:
so i wanted to ask. would there be a huge difference in performance if we would run android from ROM? like replace windows mobile with android? also another question, why is our phone slower then other android phones with similar specs? Why I'm asking is i installed GTA3 and GTA VC, And imagine my surprise when they successfully launched :D. i was actually able to play both of them, but they were lagging and crashed after few minutes. so then i watched video of gta3 on Motorola Droid. As far as i know fathom has better CPU (600Mhz vs 1000Mhz) (plus i have it overclocked to 1.5Ghz), better GPU ( I think), and ram is the same. so why does droid run gta3 very good but fathom can't?

Also this has been bugging me for a while, on every site with fathom specs, RAM is specified as 256MB, but in WM it only shows 211MB (Android shows 197MB), do you know why is that?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] pizzaboy192:
1.: running Android off NAND will always be faster. It's just a matter of finding a way to flash an Android compatible bootloader when we currently have no tools or idea how.

2. The Fathom may be faster on paper, but we don't have optimized code like the Droid does. I don't know if we have GPU working yet, and many other things are flaky at best.

3. it has 256MB of RAM to share between the processor and the GPU. Windows Mobile uses less memory for the GPU than Android does. I would assume there is a way to denote how much RAM the GPU gets, but I have yet to dig around enough to find it in Android.

I hope that helps. The Fathom will probably never get a ROM port, as we don't have a bootloader like HTC devices do (Unless you can mail a Fathom or three to DFT and hope they break into it and make a MAGLDR for the Fathom).
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Giorgi-geo:
Ok thanks, that helps :)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
I will look into this. There is one thing you can do to help me, and that is the March 2012 build. Have you tried GTA on there? That ROM is the only ROM that I was able to go far into Defense Zone 1, every other ROM kills that game after level 2.

Using Systempanel Lite, try to "end all" programs before launching the game. March 2012 frees up the most RAM that I have seen for our Fathom, so that might help.

One last thing, if you install a logging program such as Catlog, you can see what causes the crashing when using programs, just send me the log file and I might be able to know (that's how I fixed headphone error)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Giorgi-geo:
Ok will do :)

is there a way to backup this android that i have right now, with everything installed, and then return it after I'm done? and can you link me to march build?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
Hmm, do you have another MicroSD? It would be easier if you do, but if you don't, you do not need to destroy your current Android setup. Just copy all the directory's in your microSD to your computer, and then put a folder with the March 2012 build in your micro SD, make sure startup.txt points to it, and make sure mtype is "2524" and boot it up.

Link to March 2012 build is in the first post of this thread. If you want to be absolutely sure, you can try Titanium Backup to backup your Android setup.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Giorgi-geo:
I dont have extra sd card but i will copy it to pc no problem.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] pizzaboy192:
the other way is to rename your current Android folder to something like Android_old and name the new one just Android. It should work just fine like that. you could even change your startup.txt in the old Android folder to point to the new folder name. If your SD card has enough room, that would work rather well.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] g680423:
all the games are stucking which rom to download
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
Hello, a late (or just on time) present for everyone. The attached kernel was built before my Ubuntu install died, build 120 has battery saving changes similar to my very first kernel. Now, if you don't have anything running, it is possible to get the extreme battery savings my first kernel had.

Everything about the kernel is the same as build 119 but with a change to enable better battery life (tested with radio off).

I don't recommend that as you'd have to rename a lot more folders depending on what you have installed, I did that once (renaming just the "Android" folder) and it ruined all my apps between the 2 builds I was switching between.

Cyanogenmod Nov 26 build is stable, but no 3G internet. Good for gaming though.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] g680423:
Cyanogenmod Nov 26 build is stable, but no 3G internet. Good for gaming though.[/QUOTE]

einsteinecker that's a great room thank you you have done a wonderful job, you made my day the gift you sent was extraordinary You rock!:victory::victory:thankyou
[Miscellaneous Android Development] cac2us:
Fathom Revived

Great to see the development on the Fathom has been getting further along.

Is there a REAL link to the CM Nov. 26 build?

I keep getting a boatload of crapola trying to infest my machine and still no file...

Can someone please post a link that will download a real file please...
[Miscellaneous Android Development] pizzaboy192:
I have a copy that I downloaded on my desktop, but I will not have access to it until January 14th. I can upload it to my site then.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] cac2us:
Thanks, I have been tinkering with my DInc II and my Spectrum.

Still running WinMo on my Fathom.

I saw that Ubuntu is going to be running on the Google phones.

I downloaded einsteinecker android from your link and I might try it soon.

I have the pay as you go data on my Fathom, so I won't be setting up data when I run Android on it.

WiFi here at the RV park is free so I will import my apps that way.

Thanks again for your support..:good:
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
I tried to upload to pizzaboy's ftp, but I keep getting disconnected, it has to be my isp because they pulled a stupid stunt on Christmas and the effects of their nationwide network reset is still being felt now.

So, I figured maybe this will help. Instead of using the multiupload link, here's the links to the file itself:

http://www15.zippyshare.com/v/2601852/file.html

http://bayfiles.com/file/tQMv/v11caS/Android.7z

Unfortunately, the depositfiles link is dead, but I highly suggest the zippyshare link, it's quite fast and if you don't have a crappy connection like me, I'm sure you won't be disconnected mid-transfer.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] g680423:
is this a new one?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
No, it's just links to Cyanogenmod November 26.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] pizzaboy192:
I've uploaded it to my site.

http://pizzaboy192.com/downloads/fathdroid/Android.7z
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Giorgi-geo:
Hey. sorry I was busy these days couldn't test your march build. just tested November build and it's great. wasn't able to download gta yet but i'll test that too.

One bad thing is that in Ajeet's build the native players could show video. I think I already talked about this. now they just show white screen. Is it possible to look into ajeets build and see why video worked there but not here? most of all this sucks because of Youtube app, it playes sound but screen is white, you can test it. and we cant watch youtube in browser cause flash player lags too much, so no way to watch youtube videos online

Great thing is that we no longer get charger error and sound and microphone always work. almost forgot can you confirm that GPS is not working? i tried it yesterday and didn't seem to work.

Thanks again for your work!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
Thanks for the feedback. I'll look into that, and I have a feeling it might be our phone is confusing the Youtube app due to incomplete hardware accelerated video playback. I should either complete the hardware playback or disable it completely, so I will definitely look into it. (MXPlayer has white screen when hardware video playback is enabled)

I am currently trying to recreate Ajeet's .32 kernel, if he could do it, so can I. I've looked through that kernel and it is the most developed one out there, so hang on folks :)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] g680423:
sw video playback works no white but lags in 720p movies
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
So I think I pinpointed the source of the problem, but I only checked Ajeet's 2.3.7 because I don't have a internet enabled WiFi network. Have you tried Cyanogenmod Nov 26? Does that also give a white screen?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] g680423:
same problem but no lag works with sw...... sometimes audio stops working:crying:
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
The .35 kernel is very un-optimized :( There is hardly any developers working on a .35 kernel for the qsd8x50 Snapdragon CPU, so I really want to go back to .32, that is where the drivers are compatible.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] g680423:
i cant see market or google play in cynogenmod what to do?? someone told me it can be fixed with this but i dont know how to do here are the file

pls hlep

http://www.mediafire.com/?3o07fz2wo5u94t9
[Miscellaneous Android Development] g680423:
thanks to colox188

need to unzip the files and paste it (while running android with a rootexplorer) at /system/app. after this restart android and the market should appear.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] kank_fraud:
Hey someone help me.

I am new to this Android on WinMo thing sho I have never used haret.

First thing, I have downloaded the Nov 26 version as I don't see any working link for the latest version.

Now I have copied all the files to a Class 10 32GB card and I tried the first run and it hangs.

After 5-6 runs, finally I see the cyanogen mod 7 logo, but after a few seconds it hangs there too.

And well still stuck in cyanogen mod 7 logo, dowsn't go any further.

So pls can anyone help.

And lastly, is it necessary for me to run clrcad.exe everytime I start, and for what is it required.

Well after I reset the device to try again, it doesn't always load to the boot logo.

Sometimes it stuck before even showing the logo

Thought I will be able to run android on this, somewhat, but I guess my phone is not willing to give up on WinMo

Even after 20 tries, it still freezes on the boot logo and sometimes when I start haret, the phone restarts.

I gave up and tried the unsupported build linked by Georgi-geo

It boots but somethings doesn't work such as the music player cant see any files.

I replaced the system.ext2 file with the from from Nov26 build and that boots too, but it is slow.

Something is making the processor run at full speed and still it is getting real slow. And some files are getting created in the SD card with .rec extention
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
Hi, thanks for your feedback. Cyanogen mod does have that problem of running slow on first boot. In order to bypass that, I use the program from the other Gingerbread builds to close everything, because there's a lot of programs running at boot trying to do something (I think it's because the Android setup was skipped)

I have attached the program that I use, and I know it would be difficult to install it, but use the file explorer app, and install the attached file, and open that program, and "end all".

I should also mention this one important fact: it is best, from my experience, to turn off all radio's in windows mobile (wifi, 3G/CDMA, bluetooth) before starting Android. Clicking Clrcad is also important, and you must do that at least 5 times almost 1 second apart, before clicking on haret.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] g680423:
hi einsteinecker add that market files so that google play store and some other files are fixed to that cyanogen mod which i uploaded

http://www.mediafire.com/?3o07fz2wo5u94t9

need to unzip the files and paste it (while running android with a rootexplorer) at /system/app. after this restart android and the market should appear.

Instuction of how to is attached
[Miscellaneous Android Development] kank_fraud:
Oh thanx for ur reply.

The Nov26 build doesn't boot on my phone.

Only the unsupported build boots.

And also the latest build download link is broken.

The Nov26 build hangs at Cyanogen Mod 7 logo and I have tried it 15-20 times with same result, even with the new kernel 120

Is it possible for u to help??? :fingers-crossed:
[Miscellaneous Android Development] kank_fraud:
Well I was finally able to download the latest build of yours and it is very very smooth and stable. Music in PowerAmp sounds profound, but their is a big problem with all the music players I have installed.

None can scan the SD card.

So I see no files or albums in the Music Players.

Only way I was able to play was with a file explorer.

Whenever I try to scan otherwise, it doesn't show anything and if I try to open folders from within the player, it cant go further then /mnt/sdcard/

Did anyone have any such problem.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] kank_fraud:
But whatever files i'm able to play through PowerAmp using file manager, I would like to say its really good.

I knew the headphone amplifier in the Fathom is a real good chip.

Sadly we can't access the built in equalizer in the chip.

I hope soon Call and SMS works to the fullest.

Then I am switching to Android FULLY.

Great work einsteinecker.

Really great work.

Does anyone know any good player in WM6.5 also that gives as good output as PowerAmp in Android!???
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
Well, do you have another MicroSD to test? You need at least 750MB free space on your card when using Cyanogen Mod Nov26, and if it still does not work, you must reformat the sd card and create an active partition on it.

I know the problem with the SD card, which is why I'm trying to go back to the old .32 driver, since our Fathom drivers were written for .32, it worked there but not so much in .35.

As for music on WM6.5, I never tried. I did think of using Nitrogen, but since I like to listen to music on my bluetooth headset, the sound quality is mono so I didn't bother looking for better programs :silly:
[Miscellaneous Android Development] kank_fraud:
Thanx for replying einsteinecker.

Yes I ahve tried in four different SD cards.

2GB Class 6, 32GB Class 10, 8GB Class 4 and 8GB UHS-II

With none it worked.

But all the others worked in all the cards I had.

Out of curiosity are you developing for our phone still? :confused:

Have you tried to listen from the phone now directly.

Its really good, thanx to u, u deserve a pat in the back.

And as for WM music player, I think I have tried almost everything and none seemed to work as good as in Android we can find.

Well same has happended to me like you.

I had a seperate hard drive for windows and ubuntu on seperate partition, and well it fell from my hand when I took it out to clean off dust and after that the drive is dead.

I lost everything I was researching in Android.

I was actually trying to learn about another Android phone of mine.

Try to develop something for it, but after that, no more hard disk space for a seperate installation and no more space for also in my main drive.

Well I wish u good luck with this desire of yours to develop for our fathom.

I hope you suceed and we all can enjoy the fruit of your hard work.

I'll help in any way I can.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
Sorry for the late reply, I had a terrible headache yesterday. Yes, I am still developing for this phone, it's my only phone now, and I truly believe most of our problems can be solved once I figure out how to move backwards to the older kernel.

I am wondering if you are able to re-download Cyanogenmod Nov26? Right now that is the best Android we've got, I doesn't have 3G internet but the SD card will always mount, and it's great for watching videos and playing games. I am also still trying to figure out the Youtube app white screen problem, so if you don't mind using Wifi, Cyanogen mod Nov26 is as good as it gets :)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] kank_fraud:
I am able to download all the ROMs now but actually I am using it in Airplane mode and I like ur latest build "Gingerbread 2.3.7 (includes Kernel build #119)", which is the best I find. 3G and 3D gaming both works but when I turn on the GSM modem, the ROM gets slow so I use only WIFI.

I am not able to boot into the Nov26 build actually, so don't know how it is.

Well to the problems of SDCARD not being accessible, I have found a solution to it :angel:

You can experiment more with it, but I like it this way.

In the root of your system

Open init.rc in ES Note Editor

# setup the global environment

Find the line "export EXTERNAL_STORAGE /mnt/sdcard", change /mnt/sdcard to only /sdcard​

Next

# create mountpoints

Find the line "mkdir /mnt/sdcard 0000 system system" to "mkdir /sdcard 0777 system system"​

Next

# Backwards Compat - XXX: Going away in G*

symlink /mnt/sdcard /sdcard to symlink /sdcard /sdcard
​

Changing all these solved my problem but it might also work if u only change the no. 0000 to 0777 which in UNIX is supposed to give it read,write,execute permission or if u put /sdcard instead of /mnt/sdcard

I think changing it to /sdcard solved the problem cause in every android I have seen the no. 0000 to as it is.

Well I am a person who doesn't know to take small steps.

Reading all these small txt was hurting my eyes so I changed everything in one go.

Goodluck to u.

This is kind of a temporary solution. :p

BTW, on your ROM, the location of /mnt/sdcard and /sdcard are both different. I think this is the reason behind the problems with the sdcard not mounting. Some coding error is their.

It should lead to the same location in actual. Well thats the reason I think changing the location from /mnt/sdcard to /sdcard should work only without requiring to give 0777 permissions.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] einsteinecker:
I had tried this fix (except for the 0777) last year, but it didn't work for me. I tried it again yesterday, hoping the 0777 would do the trick, but it still doesn't work. Since the USB cable is the main problem, fixing that would fix the sd card problem for sure. Thanks for the try though :good:
[Miscellaneous Android Development] kank_fraud:
I can't get you! :confused:

What are u talking abt :confused:

What USB cable!?? :confused:

U can connect it

The solution I gave was for applications not being able to access the microsd card

For instance, If I open the music player, it cant see any music files.

If I open the gallery, It can't see any photos present.

But after I changed this, I can use any music player to find music files in the microsd.

The reason behind this is cause the location /mnt/sdcard is not actually pointing to the sdcard

It is a folder inside the system partition if I am not wrong with no permission to read or write.

Thats why even the apps cannot be installed to the sdcard and apps which need the sdcard for data cannot be installed.

After I changed the location, apps can see the files present in sdcard but still its not possible to install apps on sdcard cuz the location /sdcard is invalid for the apps.

The valid location is /mnt/sdcard.

Something is wrong with the system image
[Miscellaneous Android Development] kank_fraud:
I have also changed /mnt/sdcard to /sdcard in the file vold.fstab file in the location /system/etc

Sorry I forgot to mention
[Miscellaneous Android Development] g680423:
hi einsteinecker haven't heard from you so long ok fixed youtube now youtube videos are working in fathom till 480p without lag but 720p seems little lag i will post the fix if u need