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[Galaxy S III General] conantroutman:
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[Galaxy S III General] :
Just tiped the following sites about what is going on here:

http://www.androidpolice.com/

http://www.androidauthority.com/

http://www.talkandroid.com/

http://gizmodo.com/android/

http://androidandme.com/

http://www.theverge.com/android

http://androidcommunity.com/

http://www.phonearena.com/android

http://www.androinica.com/

http://techcrunch.com/

http://www.techradar.com/

http://www.engadget.com/

:cowboy:
[Galaxy S III General] AndreiLux:
lol... Couldn't have put it in better words. That video is a shame of the cluster**** and unprofessionality that is XDA right now. Also the above poster is right. If you want something, at least know what the hell is wrong in the first place in an informed and technical manner. We don't need the chip's manual (By the way, they don't release it to anybody in the industry without you having signed an NDA. None of you realize the legal aspects of this, and yes you can actually get it that way if you ask distributor channels or Samsung directly through developer connections as on the Odroid-X board).

We just need some documentation on a few libraries which are causing some issues, nothing more. Get realistic and rational folks.
[Galaxy S III General] :
Samsung Mobile Russia just replied to my post:

https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileRussia/posts/519878114706478

:fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Lol. I agree, don't link video. And be more specific... I thought the exact things Codeworkx and Entropy outlined would have been added already. But obviously not.
[Galaxy S III General] :
Just got email from Darcy from AndroidAuthority.com:

:D
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32470485

This is what Entropy512 and Codeworkx have asked for specifically.

Just enough info to help the custom roms. Asking for 'everything to do with the processor' is amateurish, misguided and will never happen.

Please add to OP.
[Galaxy S III General] Jurian87:
I've tipped Androidworld, a large dutch Android community, about this, hopefully they'll do an article about it.

www.androidworld.nl
[Galaxy S III General] :
Please write a text like the one Suleiman wrote, but include the specific things the CM team needs, and I'll add it.

I don't want to write it myself because my English is pretty bad... :o
[Galaxy S III General] ManCityFC:
You're missing the point mate. I know what you have said here is correct, however to start asking specific technical questions isn't going to get any sympathy from the 'average Joe'. Samsung know exactly what it is the dev's need because they have already asked for it on numerous occasions.

The point of posting this question is to heighten the awareness of the problem to their marketing teams, that's all. Marketing teams don't want negatively crafted comments on their website, and they certainly don't want the layman 'liking' it. The marketeers will want this to go away as it raises sales objections on their marketing portals.

Please just post it up. We all understand what your saying but more people that post this, the more people will jump onboard. Call it peer pressure, social evidence, whatever you want, but if the layman sees a lot of people getting behind this, they will follow. Even the most technically inept people in the world think they know more than they do, and 'liking' this will act as an ego-boost whilst helping us achieve our goal.

Get onboard mate, there is nothing to lose! Re-word it of you want. It doesn't matter, as long as the message is the same ultimately.
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
What we need the most is a proper functioning source for hwcomposer and the other graphics subsystem stuff at https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_hardware_samsung/tree/jellybean/exynos4/hal

These are quite small and very specific lines of code. But would make a huge difference to ALL custom ROMs using the EXYNOS4 (inc Galaxy Note2 of course).

libhwcomposer is the most important

Next is libfimc/libfimg

Then, libhdmi/libhwjpeg/libs5pjpeg

Next after that is libcamera - the CyanogenMod developers have lived without the source for it so far, but it could be improved.
[Galaxy S III General] ManCityFC:
I understand what you saying mate, but see my last post. If you want to put it differently, then please do. It doesn't matter as long as the point gets across.

Samsung do know what we want, so quoting technical jargon is likely to confuse it more, but as long as you post something, I doubt it matters.
[Galaxy S III General] x92:
I think there is no point for samsung to release one or two source code of their current product and stop there. What I think what the developers really need is always updated source code and support(documentation).

Here is a quote from Codeworkx based on a interview:

Source: http://www.androidnext.de/schwerpunkt/codeworkx-cyanogenmod-interview-english/
[Galaxy S III General] ManCityFC:
Great work everybody. Nobody can accuse us of not trying! Responses are coming in and the media are starting to take a bit of notice.

The more we post, the better. This can work. Persistence Pays!

Great work Anton! Thanks for picking up and running with this. It is making a difference.

:thumbup:
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Obviously Samsung know what is needed, a little technical info is needed for the fan sites tho at least. If they are going to run it at least.

OP makes it sound like we are asking for EVERYTHING and we're not.
[Galaxy S III General] ManCityFC:
Fair comment mate. As I say, change it and post it. I'm working but later I will update the OP and no doubt Anton will, too. I am going to re-post on all these facebook pages tonight again too, so will post your version. Lets keep it fresh and factual.

No point bickering over the wording, lets just get the message out. We all have different styles. Nobody is right or wrong. The message is being heard, now we must persist with it. They will expect the odd "we're looking into it" comment the placate us, but we mustn't fall for it.

Keep pushing!
[Galaxy S III General] :
How's this:

:p
[Galaxy S III General] :
if you wanted guerilla marketing you should have done it right ie. finalize text (listen to Entropy512, codeworkx, AndreiLux, etc..) make a site something like freeexynos.com and make all posters link to the site with finished text to have some numbers collected, how many shares etc.

this way you'll burn out much sooner than Samsung will.

anyway just my opinion, it doesn't matter much. good luck.
[Galaxy S III General] RoadXY:
Now we must make sure that every Samsung owner (at least here on XDA) will make them selfs heard.

A post on the portal would be a great idea?
[Galaxy S III General] :
http://www.xda-developers.com/suggest-content/

Let's make it appear on the portal!

:highfive:
[Galaxy S III General] RoadXY:
Just use the link on top right of this page!

http://xdaforums.com/votenews.php?topic=1925709
[Galaxy S III General] MarcelMAH:
Some people (like me) like a clean phone and only install apps which they need... the stock ROM is filled with apps I never use. The second thing is that you don't need Samsung to release software anymore... when they quit support, CM will continue as long as the hardware can handle it and a dev is willing offcource!
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
I can't embrace and accept the fact that CM10 only works to say 95 percent because I need tethering and the Sammy camera app.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Because you have other devs creating apps and extra functions some of us would be interested in, off the top of my head, direct control of what permissions apps have access to, and apps like pdroid, and someone correct me if im wrong, but the guardian project is cm only.

Think to youself, what other future releases will be only compatible with the cm framework, being enjoyed by other manufactorers product, while us samsung users get to READ about it.

I guess its a matter of preference, if you dont care about this aspect of it, then no worries, but i hope you have a better understanding of where some of us are coming from

Edit : also, a dev may come by and create some trully spectacular things, but i doubt he/her, or any dev would be willing to port over to samsung because of the pain in the ass aspect of a semi/full closed system, your creating a very obvious barrier when you do this

Edit: also, some of this is a way for us to thank the devs who've spent time and effort on the products we buy, even though we get as much to gain from it as they do

Edit : sorry about the also's, but saying that.........also :D, another up and coming rom standard may rear its head, friendly competition, i hope.......... wanna bet, if it'll like a closed system...........damn, there are so many reasons, not all are obvious
[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
for now? cm10 is heck of a lot faster, even without the sources that are needed. only thing that is choppy are some animations. samsung can't make their rom faster even with all the sources they have. imagine cm when all the needed sources are available, sammy roms have no chance.

people like cm, because you lose all the bloat and heavy samsung apps. for me touchwiz was like using windows vista on an eee pc
[Galaxy S III General] cmajetic:
just wanted to ask but thanks for being kind.

so you would say cm devs are better than Samsung devs? especially the last post sounds like that.

When cm devs say, we do not support fm radio anymore you have to live with this decision too, cm is no community project, it is something like a light Touchwiz, sense, motowhatever

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9300 mit Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Hope you know that your more then welcome to ask honest questions here and we appreciate your kind resposes too my friend, however misguided :D, jst kidding........its refreshing not to get into some sort of thread war over these things, considering how passionate some of us feel that this should be a no brainer decision for sammy.

And no, cm, is not just an overlay slapped on top of an android os like touchwiz, it is i believe, a ?complete? overhaul of the android os, maybe someone with greater knowledge then i can be more specific here, i just know the basics, no doubt some may be wrong, but im still learning
[Galaxy S III General] MarcelMAH:
CM is plain Android with some optimizations and extra features (compared to plain).
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Cheers, you live and learn:good:
[Galaxy S III General] TecQuality:
ROFL, dude you're my horse!!!! Completely agreed with you :D;)

Sent from my GT-I9300 using latest Nightly
[Galaxy S III General] X_Heroine_X:
how this will help pple like me ?

newbie !
[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
cm IS a community project. it is an AOSP based rom, which stands for Android Open Source Project. if you don't know what open source means, please google it.

i do not know any of samsungs developers so can't really compare. cm devs, and in our device's case team hacksung, dont have all the necessary recources at their disposal to apply the full potential of our device. that being said, they have done an increbile job so far bringing cm10 to our device, and they do it for free on their own free time!

i agree with many that picture quality could be a little better, but i seldom use my phone as a camera so i can live with it. and this is one of the reason for this thread.

i have been following this thread closely and support the cause (will not comment about the methods), but i am a realist and sceptical about samsungs intensions, so havent sent any messages anywhere, because im almost certain they fall to deaf ears.
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
How many other people are like you? Submit a request to samsung directly (OSRC, see OP) instead of by any social network. If you dont make a sound, of course they will never hear you.
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
@AntonLiv92

How about you create a poll similar to this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32624976

I created also one in my thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1929188

based on the thread from eep2378 and since your thread is the most visited one most people would vote here. Maybe we could pressure Samsung a little more, if they would see actual data in numbers that people will leave Samsung if Source Code is not provided. They heard a lot of talk from us by now but no actual data in numbers was provided.
[Galaxy S III General] Daelyn:
Samsung saw this start out, the good intentions of people, where a bit worried about the mob spamming them and wrote a few calming answers to get a breath or two.

But now, I promise they're laughing their asses off seeing how everything unraveled and how people started hilarious flaming wars.

Enjoy your phones as they are. Samsung won't release the sources to such a stupid bunch of whiners. You can't even keep up appearances for a fortnight.

Real devs, admins, moderators etc. obviously excluded, but releasing the source for the benefit of potentially a few hundred great developers, a few tenths of thousands of enjoying and contributing users, and a couple hundred thousand whiners (can I get CrapWiz on my AOSP plzzzzz?) ain't a money making business decision.
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
Hey guys, wouldn't this be easier if we create a petition on a website like www.change.org or www.care2.com, sign it and then send the results to Samsung ? That way, they can see the impact much better than this (and count the people asking for this). We can get a lot of votes this way. Just a suggestion...
[Galaxy S III General] browy:
http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...t-achieve-full-potential-of-purchased-devices

Someone already created a similar petition with more than 11 thousand supporters, samsung didn't care. Try to capture the press and media's attention this time if you want to force them to listen to you. It might be the only way. Their reputation is something they mostly care about. That's why they invest millions of dollars for advertisement around the world. They surely don't want it to be damaged.
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
If we only could get big tech blogs like Engadget or The Verge on our side but sadly they don`t seem interested. Several people including myself have tipped them about this campaign and no answer back from them :(
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
I didn't know there is already a petition there. I agree with yo u about media. Media can make them losing clients and decrease the sells, so they don't want to end in mud.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Little story

Very first Ipod touch early adopter, i loved the idea, the posibilities, as soon as i found out that you had to pay for FIRMWARE UPDATES, at that time, i was'nt happy, so i sold it not to long after.

When i heard that they stopped charging, it was to late, the damage was done, i saw them in a certain light, and over the years, they havent disapointed. So what did i do, i moved over to a relativly new up and coming tech player, htc g1.....i.e. android, what drew me to it, openess

Fastforward to now, apple has a competitor, first software, now hardware, if samsung want to create a new competitor, ill be more then happy to oblige, its their choice.

Personally, im no where near there yet, being relatively new to my samsung device, and freely admiting its the best android device ive owned so far, .......... i say all this knowing what will happen if at the end of my samsung product life, ill be actively looking for a non samsung device, depending on how they treat this particular situation, it will negate or amplify my possible spite, nothing extreme, simply failing to mention to a friend that a samsung device has good reviews, to the extreme, mentioning samsungs open policy and explaining why that may be a bad thing, the balls in their court, longterm or short term, their choice

And yes, i believe without a shadow of a doubt that us whiners, or the more classic term, customers, have far more influence then some like us to believe we do

PEACE
[Galaxy S III General] :
Poll added.

Vote everybody! ;)
[Galaxy S III General] -A-P-M-:
They will care once they will lost customers. If nothing changes, this is defenetly my last Samsung's device.
[Galaxy S III General] :
When I tipped Engadget, instead of writing about this they wrote about Samsung releasing the Kernel sources (which is nothing) for the Note 2... I think they owned by Samsung.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
I would not be surprised to hear some kind of "understanding" between engadget and the big major players
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
Just read this news in gsmarena blog about "Samsung is working on black clipping issue" on note and the source they mentioned is this

why not we try our luck by raising an issue in the same source?
[Galaxy S III General] :
We have nothing to lose... ;)
[Galaxy S III General] Eddiemc:
Big props to all of you who are dedicated and persistent enough to keep this up.

Keeping this thread, nagging on samsung, pushing for documentation, posting on fb.. Not everyone can be bothered doing this, so thank you for keeping the pressure up.

Regardless of weither or not it makes a difference, not doing anything will definitely bring nothing. So please do not be persuaded to drop what you are doing, in the end it will benefit us all.

Thanks

-e
[Galaxy S III General] undercover:
Did a mod delete my post or it didn't get posted due to a glitch in app? If first, then I would appreciate if whoever did it PMd me with explanation, so I know what I did wrong and don't do it again in the future.

Browsing from the app to avoid massive signatures
[Galaxy S III General] androidindian:
Some more pressure from Allaboutsamsung, Sammobile and other android blogs on exynos:

https://twitter.com/SamMobiles/status/258179879458189312

https://twitter.com/AllAboutSamsung/status/258178780827373569
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
Guys let's keep up the pressure in a decent way. Let the round 2 begin...

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[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Amen, brother :good:
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Uhm, I don't think the poll question is fair. I will only abandon Samsung Korea, as it's only those who has the exynos chip in their phones. Samsung USA has qualcomm.
[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
you gonna move to usa so you can enjoy your samsung mobile phones then? that seems like a huge leap for me :cyclops:

i think it's fair for this forum, as it's for the international model and in usa they are not so widely used. and usually they put their exynos processors for their international models
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Personally I'll only abandon Samsung if there's anyone still releasing the sources, i left HTC over the DHD ICS debacle (who's forgotten the original desire debacle) so I ain't going back there, LG aren't renowned for releasing sources either Sony (46 dc ea d3 17 fe 45 d8 09 23 eb 97 e4 95 64 10 d4 Cs b2 c2) are just plain evil so where to go?
[Galaxy S III General] da.trute:
If the samsung s4 is another great device and the other companies are still selling ****e like the HTC onexappe with no SD card or removable battery - i'm sticking with samsung, dev or no dev its still going to be a better phone.
[Galaxy S III General] -A-P-M-:
Nexus
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Nexus ain't a manufacturer my friend!
[Galaxy S III General] Rildiz:
People the thing, as I see it, is not to let up. We need to keep up the pressure on Samsung BUT still with a civil tone.

Most I see now is a lot of hate, yes in some cases it might be deserved, but even an hated entity deserves to be shown

some kind of civil respect in the public forums. If you meet Lee Kun-hee in a elevator and it's just you two, then sure explain to him why he is a moron. But for now please use a civil tone.

And if you are then thanks keep up the good work :highfive:
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
The only advantage of having nexus is the fast update nothing else. It's the customization from the manufacturers that makes the devices stand unique in the market. almost all high end device have the option of choosing between aosp and oem roms, we have the love of both the worlds. Nexus device will never get sense or touchwiz or timescape ui in nexus or its additional functionality.

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[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
but with nexus the manufacturer of the phone doesn't matter, because the hardware is what google tells them to put in.

then there is the sgs2 I9100G, which has same cpu/gpu than the gnex but it lacks nfc and has better camera and removable storage. cody has said before that his gf has this and cm10 is running flawlessly with it.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100g_galaxy_s_ii-4327.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_nexus_i9250-4219.php

im thinking of buying this with bigger battery if this years nexus devices aren't to my liking
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
It matters if people are talking about hitting manufacturers in the pocket. If you do want to avoid, in my case HTC and Sony that doesn't leave a lot of choice if I then contemplate avoiding Samsung so I feel it's gonna be the least bad manufacturer and at that the moment I might stick with Samsung in spite of the sources debacle.
[Galaxy S III General] LarsenB:
What do you think is in the US versions of the Note2?
[Galaxy S III General] w1nter456:
Guys, Please stick with topic :)
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
We're discussing the poll the OP added.
[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
right, missed your point there, sorry.

well there is a rumored LG Nexus coming, didn't see that in your list of avoiding manufacturers.

granted, LG has a bad history and the rumored specs aren't that great, so i guess your only option so far is to wait and see the new nexus device(s?) and see where you should go.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
This thread pertains to the i9300 and i9305 specifically.
[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
and the Note 2 as well, as it has the same chip as our sgs3 :good:
[Galaxy S III General] LarsenB:
I was merely mentioning an oversight. So did you really need to mention that?

The Exynos IS in America now. So this will only ADD numbers to 1. 'Supporters' of our cause. And 2. The amount of disgruntled Samsung buyers... I'm sure the US users who have had it so good for so long on custom roms are in for a shock!

Get on twitter people! Not enough tweets happening IMO.

Edit I really hope somethin comes of everyone's efforts here!!
[Galaxy S III General] Entropy512:
We'll be long gone by then. Basically, the longer after we've dropped a device it takes, the more it's going to take for us to come back.

For example, just a few little bits here and there (to fix the most critical issues) would have kept us from leaving. But now that codeworkx has a Sony in hand, it's going to take a LOT more.

You want FM? Go to Gerrit and submit a patch.

Nothing is stopping you.

We haven't done it because there are a whole pile of other things broken that are much higher priority.

Oh yeah, according to codeworkx, the Xperia T is one of the first CM10 devices to receive FM, because, unlike on Samsungs, it was easy to do it in a clean fashion. (I could be wrong about this. However I do know for sure that HDMI is working on the T due to the availability of the required documentation.)
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Haha they posted their last Tweet about 25 minutes ago and everyone is asking for the thing we all want :D

https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos/status/258244102213210112
[Galaxy S III General] :
Nice! :D
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
@entropy

The first negotiation with Samsung failed miserably like you said. why not try once more?

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[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
I'm pretty sure it will be an even bigger "NO!" this time.