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[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ are you serious about the HD2?
[Windows Phone 7 General] trappxl:
Yes I am serious about the best dev phone HTC has ever made. I think its great DFT got the thing to boot WP8. Now, I will be more impressed if they get it to run somewhat decent, but that doesn't mean I'm fiending for one or crying foul that MS lied to us about WP8 on older hardware....
[Windows Phone 7 General] mcosmin222:
MS didn't exactly lie to us in its entirety.

There are features that require new hardware, such as NFC. They didn't explicitly say WP8 will not run on older devices, but that features of WP8 will not work. If we take those features out we are left with the 7.8 upgrade.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dazza9075:
minus te new unified kernel :/
[Windows Phone 7 General] trappxl:
Agreed, but if you read other places online, the fact that DFT has gotten WP8 to boot on a HD2 has people screaming bloody murder without seeing the OS run first on it. That's the breaks though, people look at the improbable become possible they first complain about why wasn't it done sooner and in an easier manner in the 1st place.

If the 7.9 update rumors are true, MSFT might split up the features they're choosing to give WP7 users into updates.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] mcosmin222:
Wut unified kernel? I don't think the kernel is really that unified.

And the native apps...well...I think that will come sooner or latter, if their true intention is to keep 7.8 as the lot to mid-high end of the windows phone offer. It will probably not come in 7.8 but maybe in a latter update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dazza9075:
Well we only have what they said to go on, but apparently it is at least partially unified, ARM win 8 / ARM winphone 8 but your right, we don't know for sure, it is however logical to have a similar kernel across all platforms, reducing production costs and tightens security and user consistency soo...
[Windows Phone 7 General] mcosmin222:
I don't think the kernel is the unified thing, but some other abstraction layer above it that makes all technologies run with little code changes.

Given that C# for example, works somewhat differently on WP compared to WinRT and Win 8 makes me think that the kernel is not as unified as they make it out to be. It's more like the wide spread present of the .Net Framework under different aliases that unifies things.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Gizmo_x:
some more thinks that Wp7.8 will not have is native code ^^ like Wp8 and IE10.
[Windows Phone 7 General] trappxl:
Do people think that 7.8 is the last update WP7 devices will see? I heard a rumor that there is still something else to come after that...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Gizmo_x:
then someone is ______ you ^^.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dazza9075:
no there were reports of two more major updates, 7.8 and 7.x?

it was also suggested that WP7 would have 18 months of support from WP8 launch, id said this months ago as most folk will come to the end of there upgrade cycle within that period so in theory there shouldn't be many WP7 users by then

of course this is all speculation until it actually happens so its all a bit of a stab in the dark
[Windows Phone 7 General] trappxl:
Not quite. There have been a few articles on the intersweb talking about this possibility. I'm not sure if MSFT will invest the time to keep updating WP7, fine tune WP8, and work on WP9 (if we now believe that they will reboot the OS every two years). But it would be nice though as there are some in the WP7 user base that cannot or have chosen not to jump onto WP8 for the foreseeable future.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] dazza9075:
realistically we are talking a year of WP7 support, they need to keep the ecosystem alive and stopping all support now is a good way to kill it off, people are still developing for WP7, developers didn't suddenly ditch the WP7 revenue stream and they wont so long as there is a market there to make money off.

I wouldn't count on massive upgrades, but after 7.8 id perhaps expect to see proper Skype integration at the very least.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ctiger:
Don't know too much about other countries, but in US, MS had spent a lot to push the WP7 with the recycle program(they called it competition). I can't tell the background business decision but no matter what MS spent quite a lot money on that push, which might have handed 20% of all WP7 for free, maybe? I thought put some more money to carry those users along with them is worthwhile for the overall ecosystem. Because those phones won't die instantly when WP8 released, even you brought in a loyal user and upgrade to WP8, great, profit, that user is not going to flush the old phone into toilet, he/she's going to sell it, give it to friend... because most of those are still brand new devices. And nowaday ecosystem is quite a big thing, you really want to spend just to get enough eyeball staring at you. dumping them just doesn't make sense. I didn't understand why they abandoned WM users all together either, but those devices were kinda old school, with resistive touch anyways.
[Windows Phone 7 General] trappxl:
Ctiger, MSFT had to drop windows mobile. While it had great functionality (still say that both it and Symbian has more than Android), it wasn't going to be viable given some bad runs with consumers. That's why I am hopeful that MSFT is still smart and encourages devs to still do apps for WP7...you're right in that people will still find the OS and older hardware useful. I'm pushing for a friend who wants to dev apps to do for both WP7 and WP8 because there is still cash to be made from those WP7 users who cannot or won't jump to WP8...

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[Windows Phone 7 General] Turbotab:
My thoughts on WP7 after updating to the official 7.8 ROM via Navifirm. IMO, the resizeable tiles do make the phone feel fresher, but seem slightly laggy at times. To be honest, 7.8 doesn't bring a lot of changes, no Skype in the background, no IE 10, it feels that the update was more a token gesture from Microsoft.

I don't believe MS will spend much more energy on WP7, the final nail is how cheap WP8 phones have become, less than 3 months after launch you pick up HTC 8S for £10.50 on contract, the Lumia 620 is set to cost £180 unlocked, by summer it will be well under £150. I recently spent some time with an HTC 8S, the biggest improvement was the browser, although the camera is not very good, the biggest disappointment is that the processor is only ~ 10% more powerful than the SoC in the Lumia 710/800/900. If MS would port IE 10 to WP7 it would feel like a new platform!, it won't happen though!

Lumia 710 etc (Scorpion Core) 2.1 DIMPS/MHz x 1400 MHz = 2940

HTC 8S (Krait Core) 3.3 DIMPS/MHz x 1000 MHz = 3300
[Windows Phone 7 General] mcosmin222:
I don't think the roms on navifirm are complete,
[Windows Phone 7 General] trappxl:
Turbotab, I think in theory HTC was planning on pulling a Nokia and releasing the 8X, 8S, and the Titan 3 successor, but due to the screen issues they're going with the 8X and 8S for right now. I do think MSFt may not due more than 7.8, but based on Nokia releasing the 505 and their support for the overall Lumia line, I wouldn't be surprised if we may see tweaks after that, or Nokia delays 7.8 for a bit to just bake everything in.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] Turbotab:
They are downloaded from Nokia's servers, they seem to be pretty complete all the promised features are present, Bluetooth Share, Ringtone Maker, Bing Lockscreen, Resizeable tiles.

I'll check the firmware version when 7.8 is available via Zune, but I feel they held off releasing 7.8 just because of the usual staffing issues over the holiday period, who wants to be paged because an update goes wrong over Christmas / New Year.
[Windows Phone 7 General] trappxl:
Looks like 7.8 could start rolling out as early as Jan 31st. How do people feel about that?

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[Windows Phone 7 General] vnvman:
Good, I'll still be able to test it before I sell this phone then...
[Windows Phone 7 General] ts1506:
I just got myself a Lumia 510 , and it came with WP7.8 out of the box.

BTW , its for my mom , so it doesnt matter whether we get updates , or apps etc. She doesnt use anything other than contacts , messaging and phone
[Windows Phone 7 General] trappxl:
That's funny! Are you thinking about making the jump to WP8?

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[Windows Phone 7 General] vnvman:
Absolutely, I'm just waiting for the 920 to be back in stock, I should be able to get my hands on that beast in 2-3 weeks max, apparently the 920 has sold well here in my city, weird because I still have to see one in the wild, lol...
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Selling well and not producing enough are two different things. Thus WP7 is still outselling the new Nokias.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] vnvman:
Yep, I think it's the latter, actually. Oh well, I beg to differ anyway :p

However WP7 outselling WP8 is probably linked to the fact that it's hella cheap right now, emerging markets and first-time smartphone buyers gotta love that...You can find the 800 for 179€ here where I live, and it's quite a steal if you think about it. Honestly there's no device with such a premium feel for that price out there, specs may not be killer but at the end of the day I don't think that such kind of user would care much about that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mcosmin222:
There is also the fact that wp7 is a tested platform, extremely stable, very few bugs. Ever since i updated to 7.8, my phone has been literally free of bugs, as with 7.5 the music player would sometimes freeze the entire phone. In 7.8 it is gone.

Whereas WP8 still needs a lot of bug fixes on both software and unfortunately, hardware part as well in some cases. It will probably take a while for WP8 to finds its foot, and this will probably happen by the time the second generation WP8 devices come into play.
[Windows Phone 7 General] trappxl:
Agreed, but I cannot help agree with the idea that WP8 at 1.0 is in much better shape than WP7 at 1.0. We will see how MSFT manages the next 6 months both with the new iPhones and the SGS 4 on the horizon. That will determine how well the platform survives and whether or not the new hardware in the fall will even matter.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] mcosmin222:
as far as the iphone is concerned, there isn't much to be said. They have their own market.

The real battle comes over with Android. A lot of people are pissed off at android due to the very random nature of the OS, and are very happy to switch to more stable systems like WP.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ctiger:
Is it my feeling or do the software (OSs) start to go into stabilized stages? Apple released a new version iOS6, but google didn't really release any major update to Android? And what's in the pipeline for Android? We all see that several major manufactures are updating their hardware like crazy, in this pace we will see 16 core CPU in 2014 and 128 core CPU in 2016, and also 5" screen this year and 15" in 2014 and 150" screen in 2016, oh, folded into pocket. As of iOS6, other than the flop of map app, and addition of the scheduling settings(turn off ringtone at certain time periods, which was a feature, an app I used on my PalmOS 5 years ago), ect. minor improvements, nothing really catch my eyes, or maybe they did some major cleanup or security updates because I heard of a lot corp users told not to update to iOS6 for a long time before they update their servers to work with iOS6. Only MS is working on the WP8, and now BB pops up a BB 10. Looks like we are seeing the next round of mobile devices.

BTW, did Apple take all the engineers from Palm? I found iOS a lot like PalmOS.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mcosmin222:
No.

There is a cap on hardware power, and android reached it.

for a couple of years we won't see anything better than quad core at 1.5Ghz
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
Maybe battery technology will creep up ?

Or those awesome bendy screens samsung is showing off ?

Or lytro cameras ?

There is no cap on hardware power, research, or development. Humans are awesome.
[Windows Phone 7 General] trappxl:
The war on battery tech has been fought recently with multiple cores running more efficiently, along with more efficient radios. Unless we get to a point where the shell itself the phone is made of has the battery in it (kinda like that extra battery rumored in the Nokia WP tablet), I doubt you will see much improvement in what compromises the battery cell itself.

The problem for me is that there's lots of good hardware out there currently that you can argue software doesn't fully take advantage of. That's why I like WP's potential...MSFT has tried to match software performance for the existing hardware pretty well. If they can clean the some of the UI inconsistencies and market effectively, WP can take a serious bite out of the new smartphone buyers across many price points.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] mcosmin222:
There are milestones in technologies. For now, qualcum and their ARm architecture kinda reached its peak for mobile phones. More frequency and you melt down the phone. Better battery and it becomes too big. Nokia seem to have capped the camera and the screen on lumias.

over the years new technologies will pop around (just like it happens in desktop computing) but it will take a while. For now, the dust settles.
[Windows Phone 7 General] NdotGdot:
Then they will start developing chips that are faster and less battery-consumung at the same frequency (they are already doing that), better batteries and they will continue to make the screens bigger, the devices smaller and the cameras better. As long as they can develop something that consumers think is useful, they'll continue making progress.
[Windows Phone 7 General] trappxl:
It still boils down to the age old question: what good is good hardware if the software isn't optimized for it, and the OS doesn't get updated? This is why I jumped to WP8 from a Focus S,as sweet as the Focus S/Titan was, WP7 is already a mature platform in that MSFT may not support much longer. I wish that the 7.8 update had more in it though as a better show of good faith and setting a stronger legacy support policy.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] trappxl:
For all the folks out there running 7.8: how do you feel about this update? How much has MSFT's handling of WP7 play into your likelihood of upgrading to WP8 or later when your upgrade eligible?

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sparksltd:
Has anyone managed to use the .nomedia method to hide unwanted photos etc? I can't seem to get it to work.

Edit: never mind I found a fix.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MercuryStar:
And .......?

Could you please let us know what the fix was?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donec:
You can hide photos from gallery by renaming the folder the photos are in with a "." period before the name.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sparksltd:
Well use a .nomedia application from market to select folders you would like excluding from media scan. Then go to apply manager and find gallery clear defaults and data then (not sure if you need to) goto media manager and do the same. Then reboot. :) Not ideal but it works
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidcarp:
Try using Quickpic from the market.... Hide pics and video and lock with passcode.

Dc
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] smashedpumpkins:
I purchased the following adapter so that I can display my Galaxy S3 on my in-dash head unit of my car. (It converts from digital to analog)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251158372122?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649<br /><br />I

I would like to also use this air mouse/keyboard to control my phone at the same time since my phone will be in the glove box.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-4GHz-Mini...Domain_0&var=&hash=item3f1c9ccddb<br /><br />[U

Will the two of them work together at the same time? Do they take advantage of the full 11 pins? Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] haxeeb:
Were yiu able to use air mouse on your s3?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AlphaOneSyndrome:
Take a look at the accessories page. What you are describing is mhl (mobile high definition link) with USB otg (on the go). This was the main reason for the 11 pin micro USB connector on the phone. This allows charging, video output and USB hosting all at once.

There's a problem. This is not yet supported on gs 3 outside Germany (they got an update we didn't. Note 2 has a smart dock that uses this.

A couple kernals claim support for this. Like I said, check the accessories forum
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfl0wers:
Which of the mount points below do I need to create a complete Odin or Heimdall package? I am not sure which mount points map back to which files. For example which one is gets dumped to the modem.bin file?

app_38@android:/dev/block/platform/sdhci-tegra.3/by-name $ ls -al

lrwxrwxrwx root root 2012-10-07 10:01 AP -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p4

lrwxrwxrwx root root 2012-10-07 10:01 CC -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p5

lrwxrwxrwx root root 2012-10-07 10:01 E2 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p10

lrwxrwxrwx root root 2012-10-07 10:01 ES -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p1

lrwxrwxrwx root root 2012-10-07 10:01 HD -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p12

lrwxrwxrwx root root 2012-10-07 10:01 LE -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p9

lrwxrwxrwx root root 2012-10-07 10:01 LX -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p3

lrwxrwxrwx root root 2012-10-07 10:01 MC -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p6

lrwxrwxrwx root root 2012-10-07 10:01 MM -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p7

lrwxrwxrwx root root 2012-10-07 10:01 OA -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p11

lrwxrwxrwx root root 2012-10-07 10:01 SS -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p2

lrwxrwxrwx root root 2012-10-07 10:01 UA -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p8
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgeos:
Here is my post looking for nvflash help. We can probably compare notes and figure this out. FWIW, I flashed the wrong ROM, so my partition table may be broken. I would like to work with you on this project if there is a chance I can unbrick my tablet in the process. Feel free to PM me.

So far as I can tell, this is what you are looking at:

SMD (Unmounted SMD Partition?) [emmc.img]
BCT (Unmounted Boot Configuration Table?) [bct.img]
PT (Unmounted Partition Table?)
EBT (Unmounted Bootloader?)
EB2 (Unmounted 2nd Bootloader?)
GP1 (Unmounted GP1 Partition?) [fusetrigger.bin]
ES -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 EFS (Smartphone Data) [efs.img] </efs?>
SS -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 SOS (Recovery) [recovery.img]
LX -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 LNX (Kernel) [boot.img]
AP -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p4 APP (Application in System or Rom) [system.img] </system>
CC -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p5 CAC (Cache) [cache.img] </cache>
MC -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p6 MSC (Miscellaneous Hardware Settings)
MM -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 MDM (Modem) [modem.bin]
UA -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 UDA (User Data) [data.img] </data> *may be very large
LE -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p9 LTE (LTE Modem) [lte_modem.bin]
E2 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p10 EF2 (EF2 Partition?) [nvblock.bin]
OA -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p11 OTA (OTA Partition?)
HD -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 HID (HID Partition?) [hidden.img]
GPT (Unmounted GPT Partition?)

EDIT: I found this guide on "How to build ODIN flashable ROMs for Samsung Galaxy S Series". Here is an XDA post for the Galaxy S. The details are probably a little different but the many of the principles should be the same. Please share any references you have. I really want to unbrick my tablet and make a package available to help other people in the same boat.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfl0wers:
I still am not sure when to put which partitions in a package for a ROM...

These are the resources I have collected:

RobMcGhee.com - Creating an Android Update.zip Package

http://www.robmcghee.com/android/creating-an-android-update-zip-package/

[HOW-TO]Create Custom ODIN Images for Backup/Restore - xda-developers

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1082288

[HOW-TO]Heimdall One-Click - ROM Packaging and Distribution System - xda-developers

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1348392

[TUT]Edify Installation Script Syntax's - xda-developers

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=936175

[GUIDE][HOW-TO] Create custom ODIN packages - Galaxy S III - RootzWiki

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30333-guidehow-to-create-custom-odin-packages/

[WIP] How to Write an Updater-Script with Edify Code - xda-developers

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=994940

Perka's File Stash

http://perka.zapto.org/

How to make custom Odin images [Archive] - xda-developers

http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-926546.html
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgeos:
In this thread we are building a file that can be flashed with Odin for the SCH-i200 (Verizon Samsung Galaxy Stellar). It contains recovery.img, boot.img and system.img. Evidently that should be all you need to add to an Odin stock ROM. You may add extra files if you want to.

FWIW, I need a PIT file. It would be absolutely utterly fantastic if you could dump a PIT file for me. If you figure out which partition contains the PIT file, you should be able to dump it with something like this:

dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p9 of=/sdcard/sch_i905.pit bs=4096

You might be able to view partitions by type with the following command, or something like it:

ls -l /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfl0wers:
I think this is correct. Good luck.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgeos:
After reading over your references, I think you want to package the following two files. I'm 90% confident about the partition to use:

factoryfs.img (mmcblk0p4)

recovery.bin (mmcblk0p2)

You may also want to include zImage (mmcblk0p3). You should be able to to get zImage, boot and the modem from other ROMs if you need them. You might not be able to dump the bootloader and modems from the device even if it seems like you can. Furthermore, including these files can be dangerous if you do not know what you are doing.

Yet again, dumping a PIT file would be fantastic. I'm sure I'm not the only guy who needs one and PIT files for the SCH-i905 are nowhere to be found. Since my device is currently bricked, I'll happily flash any ROM you are trying to build if you help me repartition.

---------- Post added at 09:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:04 AM ----------

The attachment can not be found.

EDIT: I managed to download the pit file later today.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgeos:
Thank you very much for dumping the PIT file. Unfortunately, Odin fails to re-partition. This may be because that is not the PIT file for the EG01 firmware (although I also cannot repartition without any firmware selected). In any case, if you make a ROM that can be flashed in Odin, I will try to flash it with the PIT file provided above.

FWIW, you can see which partitions correspond to which binaries if you open the PIT file in a text editor.

EDIT: I have updated my notes based on your partitions. The notes can be found near the top of this thread.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfl0wers:
I got the PIT file by compiling the new version of Heimdall, 1.4 RC1, and extracting the PIT while in download mode.

Also I found a PIT file editor/reader:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1832619

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/96305669/pitfileeditor.jar

Here is a screenshot of our PIT file load in this app:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfl0wers:
I think we also need the fusetrigger.bin gp1 partition. How do I dump that to a file? The reason I think we need that one too is these are the files included in the Stock EG01 odin file:

boot.img

cache.img

recovery.img

system.img

fusetrigger.bin

lte_modem.bin

modem.bin
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfl0wers:
BTW this looks like a better PIT file viewer/editor:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1916936