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[Galaxy S III General] Sincci:
Sigh, do you guys really think that posting childish pictures and trolling their twitter account is going to do any good? It's not the end of this year yet and they have a release schedule, but you are still acting like they should release everything at once just because you are unhappy with your CM10?

@AntonLiv92, I really think you should step back a bit, your current actions are more likely going to hurt the cause than help it.
[Galaxy S III General] w1nter456:
Hi there, you should stop posting useless comment before you commenting. Hey, I meant, some people do have brain knows that Samsung releasing useless sources. I know he is a bit of childish which really is, but just let him do it. Success or not, he decide, not you. You don't have the right to shut people mouth.
[Galaxy S III General] Squall-Leonhart:
Next you'll divide by zero.
[Galaxy S III General] sak500:
Already out.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2003832
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
xD
[Galaxy S III General] sodeknetters:
Unfortunately you linked to yet another clueless post that is, well... clueless. Please leave it be for a few weeks.
[Galaxy S III General] :
ಠ_ಠ
[Galaxy S III General] :
Whenever they post they released the sources, they lied
[Galaxy S III General] f0xy:
I'm tweeting Samsung John see if I can get him to give some solid info
[Galaxy S III General] divided by zero:
um...
[Galaxy S III General] Sensamic:
So who's gonna buy the SGS4????

:D:D:D
[Galaxy S III General] jseb14:
EM! ITS AN OPTION! if it comes with a SnapDragon S4 pro quadcore at 1.8 ghz or an intel atom dualcore or quadcore! OR just something documented i dont care if it is a 700mhz monocore PowerPC processor with 128bits of ram BUT DOCUMENTED AGH!
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
That's much better, though he has been contacted in the past I'm hoping for a decent info from him.

S4 will not be affected by this saga at all, it will be best suited for aosp as there are decent sources for exynos5 dual (nexus10). s4 will be using exynos5 quad.

《posted from samsung rom》
[Galaxy S III General] Ausboy 2011:
We hope exynos5 quad at least ;)
[Galaxy S III General] wednesday13:
I'm glad apple won the 2b$ lawsuit. Samsung deserved it.

Fukkin companies are greedy, stuck at sg3 for 2 years but learned a lesson here and won't buy Samsung next time.

Damn Samsung.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
what lesson?
[Galaxy S III General] Rildiz:
Well....not a bs story...
[Galaxy S III General] :
We need more... :D
[Galaxy S III General] Craxx:
After I sell my s3 and don't get a Nexus4 I bought a galaxy nexus.... and with xylon jb 4.2 it is so smooth the S3 never was. Just a thought for people want a nice and smooth fone:)

Best regards

Craxx ;)

Send from my Xoom with eos Jelly Bean Mz601
[Galaxy S III General] bortak:
People, for the love of christ please STOP posting **** you saw on 9fag and then edited to suit your own needs by using memes wrong.

This is not this is not tumblr, this is not reddit, this is not 4chan, this is not 9gag. This is not a place where one uses memes. This is a place where people discuss things about phones. Memes have nothing to do with phones, and every time I see someone post a meme, I facepalm.
[Galaxy S III General] :
What's the problem with that? :eek:
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
I'd hate to say this but using memes are stereotypical of juvenile reaction.

When someone uses a meme, it quite often comes off as childish or trollish. Hence bortak's reaction (I think)

I opinion would be that we wait and see till the "end of the year" to see if Samsung does indeed make good on their promise. If not, then by all means, go ahead and continue what you're doing.
[Galaxy S III General] Rildiz:
To be honest I do agree that memes are rather juvenile. But then again the bulk of the consumers, which every company is afraid to piss of, have the attention span of a walnut. So its a very appropriate way of sending a message.

Everyone will understand the hell reference with a picture. The majority will not read a wall of text explaining why it is hell.

But then again it might just be ignored since it isn't funny.
[Galaxy S III General] haydar100:
I dont think pestering @samsungjohn is going to get us the needed sources. He's from samsung usa and not from korea. it would be nice if some korean members could get in touch with the korean samsungjohn and ask it for us :P
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Just buy yourself a nexus one then it well exceeds that spec and is thoroughly documented. Personally although I love open source I'm not quite that evangelical, and end up getting seduced by specs.
[Galaxy S III General] Entropy512:
As has been well established, he's of no use. All he does is send Google I/O Tab 10.1 owners to a special support email and tweet about kernel source releases 2-3 weeks after everyone knows about them. Not a single useful thing has ever come from SamsungJohn in the history of XDA.

If you want some "historical Samsung jerkarounds" do a search for his posting history. Promised a "big thing with XDA and Samsung" - total failure to deliver. Promised it a second time - total failure to deliver. Promised to send 3 XDA developers to a Samsung developer's conference. Total failure to deliver.

If anyone refers you towards SamsungJohn, they're trying to get rid of you and send you into a black hole of uselessness.
[Galaxy S III General] haydar100:
:D i know it's not funny but why didnt you just drop support for the exynos SoC ?

Just send them a mail in the name of Cyanogenmod that you are going to drop full support for all samsung devices if they dont release working sources :)

i guess the bigger android websites will notice this and make some bad pr for samsung ^^ this is something they will FEEL
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
You're saying it like Samsung's going to care the least.
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
This thread is full of facepalm.

Between silly memes and kids thinking they are going to war or people threatening an enormous multinational company with the loss of 10k or so customers, I have come to the conclusion that you are all Samsung plants put here to make all the normal xda members avoid this thread like the plague, and in turn, not support the cause.

Well done, mission accomplished.
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
Wtf. What will it accomplish to post something like that? If you don't like this thread, leave. The people posting here have made it clear that they have no intention of giving up (or in your belief, growing up) so what's the point? It just starts flame wars and makes you sound like a whiney little girl. No offence of course, its nothing personal, but its like you're getting offended on behalf of Samsung. Samsung are big enough not to care, its apparent that they don't care, so neither should you
[Galaxy S III General] gazdajezda:
Dont know, but my next 600EUR definitely wont go on Samsungs account... So, who's gonna laugh last? They are not the only one and also there are others with phones, performing better than Samsungs, speaking about CM. If they cannot give us needed source then they can go somewhere. Its their problem, really.
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
The exact reason I posted here.

They won't grow up.

I have no problem with people carrying on this cause, I have a problem with it being run in such a childish manner.

I have said the exact same thing since this thread was started.
[Galaxy S III General] sfjuocekr:
Grown up people come from SA, not their spinoffs.
[Galaxy S III General] Nick14:
i agree with you a 100% !by going the troll way is one of the most stupidest ideas i ever seen... if they truly want to make them release the sources is by throwing facts directly at samsung like the Google+ post andrew does aswell as starting a campain where you dont recommend any samsung products as it would directly effect their sales as a huge part of people lets say 30% ( imaginare nummber now ) that go out and buy a phone usually ask a friend if it's good and read diffrent comments on it like blogs,tech news,forums etc
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Everyone I personally know couldn't care less for aosp roms or even custom roms at all. I guess we can not recommend Samsung phones by making up a little lie. Like that they break easier or whatever.
[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
No need to lie. I personally have scared away couple i9100 users by pointing them to Entropys saga.

The superbrick for example is fixed by CM team and still not fixed by Samsung. Thats some effective anticampaining they are doing there.

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] Hybridesque:
I've been warning against Exynos4 devices too... Sending them Sony's way for now.
[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
Yeh Sony seems great. Just stumbled upon the Xperia V today which has European LTE, pretty excited about it. Hopefully it is released within this year before I move to Canada for couple months though, otherwise I have to torture myself with the SGS3 during that time. No use buying an LTE device from there, after all it's only couple months.
[Galaxy S III General] Rildiz:
Some people behave like they are 12 some behave like they are 50. We probably are between that age group in majority. And that is wonderful, it's like an civilization in itself. And it is we who buy the electronics, we who decide what is good/cool/practical. Trying to stop someone from expressing themselves is something that should be left in the dark ages.

We might not agree on how it should be presented since we all come from different places in life. And that is the great thing. We have the juvenile, we have the professors, we have the stoners, we have the engineers and we are all ready to vote with our wallets.

No matter the presentation, the package is the same.

Stop lying, keep your promises and please remember that we all once loved Samsung.

@entropy512. Thanks for filling me in on SamsungJohn, knew I had heard of it somewhere before but could never make the connection.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
This is the kind of over reaction that appears endemic here, yes having AOSP fully working would be nice, but the S3 is far from torture without it. BTW after the root it fiasco and the way they have treated PS3 owners I will never recommend Sony to anyone sources or not.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
lol.. too much hatred, too much thinking, too much talk,its afterall a mobile if nothing happens regarding sources just use it as long as you can and get a better device that can satisfy your needs.
[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
Relax man, it was just an expression, jeez. And you clearly haven't read anything the dev's have said about Sony lately if you are that clueless about their current state.

It's not all about sources, some of the Sony devs actually maintain their devices on their free time. And regarding the PS3 owner thing, sony mobile is based in sweden at least for the time being and have practically nothing to do with thei ps3 branch. Sure, they are moving to Tokyo so time will tell if their development support will last.
[Galaxy S III General] harise100:
Regarding Sony: I had a Xperia Neo, which I passed on to a younger sibbling. Guess what - never ever will it get a real Jelly Bean ROM, because there are no Linux 3.x sources from Sony, wereas the S2 is getting full JB support by Samsung right now - Both are 2011 devices.

I very much appreciate the AOSP ROM on my Nexus 7, because it adds a lot of useful functions without losing anything. On the S3... just say "FM Radio".

Good luck for you guys, but my next phone will most likely be a S4.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Personally I couldn't give a stuff about Sony's current state, it's past behaviour that stops me recommending them.
[Galaxy S III General] saranyan:
Samsung is currently reviewing the development release plan in terms of including #Exynos 4 Dual (4210) source code and docs

https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos
[Galaxy S III General] funkyblue04:
S4 will be useless unless it has a top battery.
[Galaxy S III General] :
Another meaningless tweet...
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
I still think that baiting Samsung is wrong.....bombard them with some of this instead :thumbup::D:thumbup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQvmCzILBfE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy S III General] stefankorun:
Nice, keep the pressure up Anton. I am not sure if we need to add memes or not but plain text the is the classic way to go.
[Galaxy S III General] SUer:
This idea of yours doesn't seem to be working Anton. Have you no other ideas?
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Advertise for next super phone when given an opening, in their twitter/facebook, in a friendly truthfull way

Make people aware that samsung phones have been known to brick, it would be unkind of us to not inform futúre customers of the posibility and known bricks

Wish samsung a happy cristmas turn out *hint........yes, thats a bluff, as i agree, we are a niche market, we do affect other markets, but its over a greater amount time, and the actions of other producers of android devices, right now, i reckon sammy is'nt worried, because they see nothing to worry about, which is stupid and short sighted, but thats their choice, it'll be later, if they continue like this and others bring better products, thats when these things will come and bite them on the ass.......

Edit for clarification: on the tablet /phone market
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
We had them on the back foot a month ago.

I can't believe they lied and we fell for it.

Well played Samsung.

The best thing to do is make a date in this thread. Plus the S2 thread. Say, 12th Dec.

If nothing happens by then, EVERYONE ask them why they didn't release what's needed.

That's a fair question.
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
Setting a date that Samsung does not know about nor do they agree to makes no sense.

How do you expect a company to just suddenly agree by a date of demand that surfaced out of nowhere?

just my 2c.

I would rather wait to see if they will fufill it by "end of the year" regardless of which day it is.
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
That's what samsung want....

All they need is for things to quieten down until after Christmas.

After Christmas the noise will be like water off a ducks back.

They'll have the leaks for the S4 and the s3 will be old and forgotten about.

Hindsight..... in a month everyone will be thinking "why the **** did we think Samsung would keep their word"

The 12th Dec is long enough for them to start releasing what they made us believe they'd release right?

Its been over a month already.

Just my 2 cents
[Galaxy S III General] Julianocas:
They are playing with us just to convince us that we will have something, but will never release a think in order to make us not spam among Internet that S3,Touchwiz, etc. Sucks, and somehow (reddit, 9gag, 4chan) spam and make average user think twice before get an Samsung for holiday.

Well played Samsung...
[Galaxy S III General] Sincci:
But the question is, did Samsung actually promise to deliver a full source code for the Origen Board by the end of this year (as their schedule would suggest), or did they promise to deliver full source code for Galaxy S2/3 and other Exynos-based phones? So far the answer seems to be the former one, but with so much misinformation and just general ignorance going on, people seem to think that they meant the latter one.

Also what if they do deliver the source code, but the CM devs tell us that the code is so full of sh*t that they are not going to touch that one, no matter what (because, you know Samsung is full of liers and they suck anyway etc). Are you going to then blame Samsung for not giving them a fully functional code and documentation for free (again, afaik they have never said that the code would be compatible with our phones, let alone with CM) or are you going to blame the CM devs for giving you a false hope of having a fully functional CM release on Exynos-based phones (and again, none of the devs have promised this, they have just said that it would make it much much easier). Because to me, it seems that some people think that the source code release would automatically mean a bugless CM release.

I'd also like to remind you that none of us actually can legally DEMAND Samsung to release anything other than the GPL'd code (which they have already done). Anything on top of that is an EXTRA. If they have promised to deliver something by the end of this year, don't start giving them some other deadline that suits you better and start calling them liars if they fail to meet it (even if they are not aware of such "deadline"), you don't own that code/documentation, they do and they can easily postpone the release as long as they want. If they do release something, it's a goodwill from their part, but they could as easily decide just not to if it seems that people won't appreciate it anyway (especially with all this trolling, posting silly whining meme pictures on their twitter, people telling them to f*ck off).
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
exactly.

Just because it's a new year doesn't suddenly mean there will be no backlash if they don't deliver as promised.

You also have to consider that the pool of people here in XDA is like a drop in a bucket to Samsung and the total sales that they have made on the s3 alone.

We're asking for something they're not required to provide. If they do so, it's voluntary by them. Keep that in mind.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
Nice to see some fruitful

discussion

going on here .

Super edit: well said Andrei

Edit:

Having an odd feeling that some people might register there for spamming ;) pls dont do so unless you have something really to share there :):)
[Galaxy S III General] AndreiLux:
For ****s sake remove that link. We don't need morons invading that platform just a few days after it went up.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
How dare you bring a bit of common sense into this thread. We bought this phone, with no promise from Samsung that it would run AOSP, so of course it's our right to demand Samsung give us the source code right this very minute, or we'll scream and scream and scream till were sick.
[Galaxy S III General] funkyblue04:
Samsung know what the devs what. If Sony release what the devs want, so can Samsung!
[Galaxy S III General] Poshdaz:
I suspect that Samsung can provide as much code as they they like on the chip side of the business.

Actually figuring out the difference between the standard source provided by them and the 'dirty' hacks implemented by the mobile division is the tough thing.

All you will hear is 'it works on our board'.
[Galaxy S III General] Mopral:
You're right: Samsung can release sources...

...but the real question is: do they want to release sources?

They never release sources for SGS1 and SGS2 so I think there is not much hope to have working sources for SGS3
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Yes, but we have no entitlement to the sources. Just maybe a little patience and humility wouldn't go amiss, when requesting they make them available. Samsung set a deadline for the end of the year is it really going to kill anyone to allow that deadline to pass before we demand heads on sticks?
[Galaxy S III General] cmajetic:
maybe it is not only samsungs fault, maybe the cm10 developers aren't motivated enough anymore to get it working...

at least 99% of the thread doesn't know (including me) and will never know, you just see something released by samsung and some guys who say: this is crap...
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
Partially right on the second part, the things samsung has released so far is crap and it's concluded by our elite devs too. But hopefully things might get better as the time progress.

《posted from samsung rom》
[Galaxy S III General] wednesday13:
Will the Meizu MX2 contribute to the sources?
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
what they need is documentation, not another dump from another phone that has a similar chip to it.
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
Potentially still useful, Meizu wont use ****ewiz framework, Samsung probably wont write the kernels for them, and Meizu probably wont intentionally make things difficult to work with. Meizu might be more willing to help than Samsung
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
I don't think Meizu would legally be allowed to provide the documentation that they have on the exynos 4 chip even if they have it. (I'm assuming that the MX2 does contain an exynos 4 cpu).

Imagine the legal hot water they would go through if they released it without Samsung's consent.

I'm not against taking a look at it, but I think the main thing they need is the actual documentation, not another dump from another phone.
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
What they need is the library sources, not the technical documentation for the chip. That would be useful to for Adam to make an unbrickablemod, but really not very useful for CM. If indeed Sammy has to supply the libraries to Meizu, then either they get source libraries from some repo other than insignal (ie, one that works), or Sammy gives them the same binaries CM gets and Meizu make the same framework hacks to make them work. Hopefully its the former and Sammy has not put some sort of NDA on Meizu.
[Galaxy S III General] thor9934:
Meizu MX2, have a MX5S processor so that wont help us a bit, but the Meizu MX 4-core does indeed have an 4core exynos processor

---------- Post added at 11:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:08 PM ----------

oh i just found out that MX5Q is the 4412 clocked at 1,4, so i guess that the MX5S could be a 4412 clocked at 1,6 like the note II
[Galaxy S III General] alojo:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/3S6k5dCwjpy

Merry Christmas
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Depressing reading as ever, but if you take that past behaviour you'd give up expecting anything and move on.
[Galaxy S III General] vanhellsing:
I hope samsung release exynos source code this December :( .... MERRY CHRISTMAS! CHEERS! :highfive: :crying:
[Galaxy S III General] Dav_prime:
I am stuck with this, I trashed my S3 when it fell out of my pocket cycling (phone VS road at 30 mph does not end well!) and need to replace it in the coming weeks.

For me expandable memory and a removable battery are the reason I wanted an S3, it felt to me that Samsung were listening to what the poweruser wants and providing stunning hardware that can deliver it. I assumed, wrongly it seems, they would also support dev for custom roms after hearing friends rave about custom roms on the S2 (starting to wonder if they were raving about sammy based roms now).

The thing is I love AOSP and find touchwiz a horrible experience. I was not happy with my device until I flashed CM9.1, I thought I finally had an ideal user experience and ideal hardware. Since CM10 and the problems from closed source I have become frustrated again. The phone was OK on a samsung rom with apex launcher but not a scratch on the properly working CM experience, and I am unwilling to downgrade on a device more then capable of having the latest and greatest version of android.

So my problem is this. Do I buy the hardware I want in a replacement S3 and suffer from a horrible user experience? or take a huge hit in versitility with an N4 and gain the perfect AOSP experience?

If somone from samsung is reading this thread then I ask they consider this. Ultimatly I will be making my vote with my wallet. With all this lack of support my answer to many when they say "what phone should I buy" is "get a nexus" after this experience, now I have the chance to follow suit. If google get N4s in again before samsung make their move the desistion will be made for me. Sure ill miss my spare battery and entire media collection on-the-go but a fully working AOSP experience is going to win out. Then again im sure I can buy a few accessories to negate the issues to some extent. Until then I'm keeping a close eye on this thread and holding hope that samsung will listen to their customers and provide the support we all desire. The ball is in YOUR court Samsung.
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
I'm pretty sure Samsung put the ball in their pocket and they're going home