yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III General] nucgaek:
And qualcomm's getting flak for no nexus 4 support on AOSP
[Galaxy S III General] Zatta:
Looks we are doomed then, aren't we?
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
So the question is, which one doesn't, COMPLETly, suck, in regards to dev support

If im reading the tea leafs correctly, right now, that SEEMS to be sony
[Galaxy S III General] Entropy512:
We don't know WHO is responsible - Could be Qualcomm, could be someone else. We don't know anything other than:

1) It's not supported right now

2) JBQ won't comment on it, which screams "lawyers are involved" to me
[Galaxy S III General] acey_zero:
Except most if not all Sony phones use Qualcomm, so...
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
where are TI when you need them :'(
[Galaxy S III General] acey_zero:
Yeah... this makes me think though, I wasn't too excited about the gt-i9260 (Galaxy Premier) when the details were announced, but hardware wise it is quite similar to the Galaxy Nexus, it just has the next TI CPU in the same line, and a different camera (plus a few other things I sure).

Would the hardware similarities possibly allow a lot of the Galaxy Nexus development to be leveraged for this device? If you look at it as a Galaxy Nexus with upgraded CPU and camera (plus an SD slot!!!!!), and retaining the removable battery, it sounds pretty attractive actually.
[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
and apparently future exynos 5 devices thanks to N10. it seems that exynos 4 is the disregarded middle sibling between e3 and e5

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
Cant you people wait for a month or so before throwing your words?

《Samsung rom》
[Galaxy S III General] XenomorphXx121:
I think Samsung have shown everything they had up their sleeves now and the multi window was the last.

Kind of like a see what we can do before they release the source codes to the dev community.

I don't see why they shouldn't release them now as it really isn't doing any harm.

I like the touch wiz and things that Samsung has put into their stock roms but can't wait until the codes are released and to try roms like the cm10 without any bugs and see what this phone can really do in someone else's hands.

Forgive me if I'm talking a load of rubbish, just wanted to give my input.
[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
i said it seems. so far it has been the case and the sources are being released for the origen board, so it doesn't necessarily mean they work with our device. not to mention the stuff that are missing from the origen board like camera and RIL like the devs have mentioned numerous times
[Galaxy S III General] nazfalas:
Samsung has confirmed that camera sources are going to be released as well, haven't they? (the roadmap includes them)

The Origen board comes with an optional camera module.

It's just that there are sources missing for other HWA components, I think.
[Galaxy S III General] Stevemeister:
Let's all wait till 14 december. If they didn't provide everything they promised by then they won't according to the scedule.
[Galaxy S III General] jtourettes:
Pretty much echoes my sentiments. I'm happy to wait as I love the phone but my next purchase will be affected by their decision.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Soooooo......it means, my tea leafs are bloody wrong:silly:

Hhhmm.......If i were a paranoid kinda guy......
[Galaxy S III General] :
If by the end of 2012 Samsung won't provide the devs with the needed sources, then we'll renew the flood of their social channels. Who's with me? :cool:
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
I think the die has been thrown and it's down to Samsung. If the sources don't appear its not down to ignorance but because Samsung don't want us to have them. I feel that was our last hurrah and if they don't want to release them you can wail and gnash teeth but your not gonna get them. Until then I choose to be uncharacteristically optimistic.
[Galaxy S III General] Nick14:
Or we start operation #BoycottSamsung ?
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Not just renew the flood, we're gonna spam them like they've never been spammed before.
[Galaxy S III General] Nick14:
#boycottsamsung

We wont recommend samsung products to anyone, aka warn dem spam their blogs,fb,twitter and telling anyone asking for a samsung device too buy a sony your better off! this until they releases the proper sources. This should put abit of fire under their behinds...
[Galaxy S III General] Poshdaz:
Fantastic that we have the choice of S3 with below par software thanks to Samsung, or great software with dull mediocre hardware from Sony.

Pretty fair to say that I will never go non Nexus in future.
[Galaxy S III General] hectorcore:
#boycottsamsung Good idea

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[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
#farewellsamsung would be a bigger mind****, and avoid the usuall lame comments recieved by other members

Likely get a few people asking what this is all about, dont think samsung would like anyone answering that question

I'd say its still to soon for that, but i dont see any harm in respectfully asking for a progress report
[Galaxy S III General] :
Let's try something different, something more visual...

Create illustrations, cartoons and caricatures that will make Samsung look bad for not releasing the needed sources!

Something like this (15 mins of work):
[Galaxy S III General] :
https://twitter.com/AntonLiv92/status/269749477856903168

:cool:
[Galaxy S III General] Zatta:
Please behave, give them their time.

Taptalked u see .. əəs n pəʞlɐʇdɐʇ
[Galaxy S III General] :
As you can see, it's not about time anymore...
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Nice picture!
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Yes it is, they promised to have the sources and docs we required by the end of the year. To complain that they haven't done that before their, self appointed, deadline makes us seem like churlish kids in the back of a car continually screaming "are we there yet?".

Chill, kick back and relax Samsung will still be there in six weeks time for you to rail against, maybe they'll surprise us all.
[Galaxy S III General] :
Did you even read Entropy's quote?! The sources that they promised to release are not the core sources that the CM team need so much!
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Until the sources are released, no one, outside of Samsung, knows if they will be applicable to actual devices. As entropy has said current sources for origen board are at best broken, hopefully the ones released fro now on will be more relevant and with documentation implentable on our devices.
[Galaxy S III General] dibyajyoti:
Posted on all pages, plus the letter and tweets.. Lets hope they release it!
[Galaxy S III General] Sincci:
Does it even matter anymore? The CM team has made it pretty clear that they are unwilling to support Samsung's devices anymore, regardless of the outcome, so the possible additional source codes and documentation wouldn't make any difference. This has been their attitude the whole time, they are not going to wait for Samsung to release anything because they have already made up their minds because they feel like Samsung has betrayed them, they are always lying, never to be trusted again etc etc. And if the miracle would happen and Samsung would release the stuff that they need, they would just find some other excuse to not support it anyway.
[Galaxy S III General] hotsport:
I don't think all of the team said they will never develop CM roms for s3 anymore. But even if that is the case, having as much source codes (or documentations) as possible would greatly help other developers who willing to develop for s3.
[Galaxy S III General] browy:
Yes it does. Although the cm team has abandoned the S3, there are still other developers out there and they sure can use the source to make the S3 an even better phone if Samsung ever releases it.

CM team aren't the only developers you know.

Just for example, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 never has CM official builds, but there's a great developer named pershoot who has made it happen.

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] Entropy512:
And so far, while we've slowed down significantly, if we get useful sources there will be more activity... But don't expect a magic bullet. It'll take a long time to catch up on all the lost time spent spinning with little to no progress.
[Galaxy S III General] gazdajezda:
Chill mofo. I can wait till the end of the year... stop behave like 5 year old kid... give them time!
[Galaxy S III General] cmajetic:
5 year old mofos ftw :D

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[Galaxy S III General] stefankorun:
It does take a lot of time to commit sources to public.
[Galaxy S III General] fakpuppet:
You should really make another with a axe buried across its puny android eye with sparks and all flying about and a caption with a pun on AXEynos.

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And the wait would pay if those were the sought for sources, which they are not if you bother to look at the release schedule listing...
[Galaxy S III General] kamalmawa:
By enf of this year if they won't do it I will put my S3 on eBay and buy something more AOSP friendly or a nexus device.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
One thing is a bit sad, though. It's that most people were expecting an incredible aosp experience without even looking up beforehand if the phone is aosp friendly. That money is wasted money.

I bought this phone because I had to get away from what plagued the Gnex, and that I wanted upgraded hardware.
[Galaxy S III General] alojo:
Thanx
[Galaxy S III General] hectorcore:
Boycott Samsung, Is the plan "b" friends, we prepare since now

Sorry for my eng

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[Galaxy S III General] dibyajyoti:
Please also RT this on Twitter https://twitter.com/dibyajyoti/status/270223862480920576

[YOUTUBE]GTRKL5E9Iak[/YOUTUBE]

Azrienoch's video from xda perfectly describes the **** Samsung's serving us consumers..
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Could'nt of said it better, thanks to the man in the hat

You know, I dont think it would be a bad idea to "share" this video with samsung, as a gental reminder, only a reminder mind you, if any one decides to do it, hold out on any ireversable outbursts, if you need to outburst, wait untill the 2013 deadline., at the end of the day though thats upto you.....some likes and upvotes would n't hurt
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32524516
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
A user named Originator posted this on the SII petition Thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34326789&postcount=258

What`s also interesting is, that it`s written by "Mr. Kang HuiSung" who also published the last release on their git insignal site:

http://git.insignal.co.kr/samsung/e...m/hardware/samsung_slsi/exynos4/?h=exynos-ics

So another update should be available soon, but will it be useful, that`s the other question...
[Galaxy S III General] c_tho:
pardon my n00bness, but there is an exynos 4 open source release schedule on the origenboard website (which i am forbidden from posting due to aforementioned n00bness)... is that relevant/useful/promising?
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
According to Entropy512 it`s useless:
[Galaxy S III General] c_tho:
ahh, i see. apologes.
[Galaxy S III General] riggnix:
I kinda like what @SamsungExynos is twittering lately. stumbled over this wiki page: Software Release Plan/Status

Looks very promising. I especially like that release is scheduled for december 7th, my birthday :P

I hope this will be source that is applicable to Exynos4 phones too, and not OrigenBoard only. Let's see if Samsung delivers.

Great thread btw!
[Galaxy S III General] skem:
Simple. If Samsung fails to act before the end of this year, I will sell my S3 and buy a Nexus 4 instead.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Please, read the thread before commenting. Discussion of the release schedule has taken up the last couple of pages, and FYI entropy feels that the stuff on the release schedule is not what they need anyhow.
[Galaxy S III General] riggnix:
Didn't read all the 1000s of pages in this thread ;) I tried to catch what's going on though.

I know Entropy's opinion on that, he already said that months ago ;) I just feel like there's something new going on at Samsung. Maybe I'm just Daydreaming ;)

My point is: The roadmap doesn't state things like hwcomposer as seperate points, which would be preferable. But if they release source for OrigenBoard with proper documentation i think we have a chance to tackle these problems. The big question is what Samsung really is going to release. Their current statements leave room for some goodies, but as it's Samsung we're talking about i understand that most of you are pretty pessimistic.

Didn't mean to post useless stuff in the thread. It's a VERY long thread and i just didn't want to spend hours of reading it . No offense :)
[Galaxy S III General] cmajetic:
nexus 4 is a big downgrade and has other problems, read entropy's g+.

and: no sdslot, non removable battery, crap camera (read tests), and and and...

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[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Entropy update that post?? Its now nearly 'all there'.
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Interesting.
[Galaxy S III General] drraptor:
Link
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Search.
[Galaxy S III General] drraptor:
I have read it quite a few times but I am being lazy:)
[Galaxy S III General] yahyoh:
no i will not its very bad device with glass back meh :silly:

+ its not even in AOSP :p
[Galaxy S III General] VR2012:
I had to abandon my beloved aosp-rom now :(. Tired of having a bad camera, and a fast batterydrain. Please Samsung, release the sources.
[Galaxy S III General] :
By December 7, if Samsung betray us once again. We will start the most ****ing and massive campaign they ever saw....

Preparing posters, banners, videos, lots of stuff to throw this shame on their back.

December 7, sources or #FareWellSamsung. Let's spread the word about what S3 is and what it could be.

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Dude don't do this... I tried latest 4.1.2 from Sam****, its ****ing horrible. The only thing good is that camera, its a trade off. I don't think its worth.
[Galaxy S III General] bortak:
Yeah, as soon as I heard of the glass back I facepalmed. The way I see it is - more glass means there's more to break.
[Galaxy S III General] suua:
I just switched to HTC, i got an OneX, flashed CM 10, and in my opinion its much better then the s3 with cm10. Btw very happy witv the non pentail screen :) tired of all the samsung source thing.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Made jump the other way HTC DHD to S3, tired of all the we can't release ICS as it won't run properly BS. Still no DHD kernel source release for ICS.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
As if tegra from nvidia is having all the sources:rolleyes:

《Samsung rom》
[Galaxy S III General] suua:
I did't said that they are having all the sources. I said that its working much better. First of the camera on the s3 with cm10, is terible, touch to focus dose not work it force closes. Secont the one x dose not drains battery when the phone is in sleep. The s3 sometimes eats the batt without any reason! Im talking about running cm. On the onex camera works without any problem. Im having much better experiance with the onex+cm10 then i did with the s3+cm. Mabye its the hardwear, i dont know. Cm never worked really well on any galaxy s seris. I really hope samsung gives the sources to the devs what they need. They should support the devs not the other way around.
[Galaxy S III General] didicola:
go and see a galaxy s1 how it runs cm10 and you will cry way way smothest than any one x
[Galaxy S III General] Mopral:
GS1 is an exception!

It has almost the same hardware than the Nexus S: Samsung had to release sources for the Nexus S so devs used them for GS1

But, as there is no Nexus devices based on SGS2 and SGS3 hardware, devs are screwed for these two phones
[Galaxy S III General] SiriusCybernetik:
I confirm !

UI experience with CM10 on my SGS 1 is way smoother than on SGS3.

Edit: we all know why...
[Galaxy S III General] suua:
I still have an s1 my friend! And yes its running cm. But comperad to the one x? U kidding right;)?
[Galaxy S III General] cmajetic:
lol who cares, s1 what? is this the thing humans used 10.000 years ago to make fire?

and the ui is smooth on s3 with cm10, there are bigger problems to solve. camera for example.

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[Galaxy S III General] Skander1998:
I have an S1 too (not me actually, my sis, it's running CM10, can't get smoother so hit your head on a wall.)

AND no one cares :) Now leave.
[Galaxy S III General] :
https://twitter.com/AchwaqKhalid/status/270912643060097025...

:laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] Poshdaz:
Samsung. tweeting again about the useless sources they have put out so far :

In case you can’t find them, sources for the #Exynos 4 Quad-equipped #GalaxyS3: http://bit.ly/UFLBTw
[Galaxy S III General] didicola:
so this is real? http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=I9300

are they helpfull to devellopers?
[Galaxy S III General] :
I think Samsung is making fun of us...

https://twitter.com/AntonLiv92/status/271478978190127104
[Galaxy S III General] zykozz:
!!

And deleting all comments......
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
That`s really a Fu**ing joke what they are pulling BUT it`s not the end of the year, let`s see, maybe a miracle will happen and they will release something useful or maybe not....
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Hello samsung, who will you be this year.....father christmas, or Mr grinch

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[Galaxy S III General] Entropy512:
I haven't seen any evidence of this.

You will usually not see @ mentions unless you search for them properly.

For example, you won't see them at:

https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos

You will see them if you put @SamsungExynos (WITH the @) in the search bin, then click "All" at the top of the feed.

I cannot believe they would insult our intelligence by pointing to OSRC. It doesn't contain what is needed and we've had Update5 since before it went up on OSRC.
[Galaxy S III General] f0xy:
I'm ready to bombard them :)
[Galaxy S III General] VR2012:
I really do hope that a couple of thousands protests can give something. But i must admit that i am sceptical :(
[Galaxy S III General] kroat999:
I got a reply from samsung
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
#FreeTheGalaxy
[Galaxy S III General] budisuharto:
1.Does this mean that a Samsung AOSP ROM will NEVER be 100% stock like?

2. Does this mean that a Samsung AOSP ROM will never be as pure as a HTC Desire AOSP rom?
[Galaxy S III General] :
Hope all this passing on we pay off... :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Plus, your likely to involve more users from several products, with the same goal

You can add galaxy note 10.1 users to that list to, the more the merrier, might be worth posting a link to this thread in each respective xda thread of exynos products, i only found out about this through engadgets comments, and that was pure luck,

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What, the whole thing? :D
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
Hmm.. on second thought.

It might get a bit cold :P
[Galaxy S III General] gavin-phelan:
Joined twitter just to #freethegalaxy
[Galaxy S III General] Dav_prime:
Tip sent to pocketnow

Just tiped pocketnow to make them aware of this thread, hopefully a lot of news sites will get wind of this and cover it soon.
[Galaxy S III General] piratemurray:
About to send in my support.

By the way can someone explain what I'm missing here: The JB Opensource package 5 that Samsung posted here has some license notes with it also when you click the announcement icon on the line that contains GT-I9300_JB_Opensource_Update5.zip.

In the license information I searched for hwcomposer and found the following:

/system/lib/hw/camera.smdk4x12.so
/system/lib/hw/gralloc.smdk4x12.so
/system/lib/hw/hwcomposer.smdk4x12.so
/system/lib/libTVOut.so
/system/lib/libfimc.so
/system/lib/libhdmi.so
/system/lib/libhdmiclient.so

Aren't these pretty much all of the missing parts that we need (hwcomposer, camera, gralloc, hdmi)? And it looks like their are all declared under Apache 2.0 license. Does that not mean that sources should be available for them?

Or is it a case that sources are available but not understandable because the documentation is so poor?

Anyway, thanks. I'm going to post my support now!
[Galaxy S III General] b3ndech0:
maybe one of the mods could sticky this tread? and maybe copy it in to the other forums for exynos4 devices?
[Galaxy S III General] aydc:
They won't release those sources, because using the code, their competitors would have a better understanding of inner workings of Exynos.

Other companies release these sources because those chips are used in multiple brands like LG, Sony, HTC, etc. The relaease the sources because they must. Samsung however, doesn't have to, beause they don't sell Exynos to others.

XDA community doesn't matter at all, because our number is so tiny. Most of us are completely happy with stock/touchwiz anyway. So the people demanding this is a tiny portion of a tiny portion.

All I'm saying is, don't hold your breath.
[Galaxy S III General] qwerty12:
Nope. I do not know much about licenses (and, although it probably goes without saying on the Internet these days, I am not a lawyer), but the Apache license does not stipulate that modified source code must be distributed along with the binaries, unlike the GPL.

Hell, the Apache license even says that derivative works (which Samsung's hwcomposer probably is since they'll have put in (a lot?) of code to support their specific hardware) do not even have to be Apache-licensed. I believe the only rule is that you must post the original disclaimers etc. which Samsung are doing with the notices page
[Galaxy S III General] XpLoDWilD:
"We'll pass it", "We'll tell the team responsible for it", "We'll discuss it internally"

Hey Samsung, that's been more than a year you're discussing it.
[Galaxy S III General] gavin-phelan:
Xplod tweet this; )
[Galaxy S III General] piratemurray:
For those helping out on Twitter, here is an example that I used complete with hashtag. Hope this helps others.

I selected two of the libraries from the front page that were important to me and to make the tweet fit!! Here is the rest of them.

I tweeted @SamsungMobile and @SamsungExynos
[Galaxy S III General] sharingan92:
Would it be a good idea to start a petition or something similar using change.org for example?
[Galaxy S III General] qwerty12:
http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...t-achieve-full-potential-of-purchased-devices
[Galaxy S III General] sharingan92:
Thats ok but but is not specified to the exynos source needed
[Galaxy S III General] qwerty12:
Fair enough, but the point I was implying was that Samsung don't care for change.org petitions - c'mon, 11,452 supporters and people are still trying to get Samsung to change its policies even now :)
[Galaxy S III General] nazfalas:
They've been bad with the S2 and I don't see any reason why they should behave differently now.

2 days before christmas will be the day I decide if I keep my S3 (sources released or proof that they are going to be) or sell it.
[Galaxy S III General] Rildiz:
Poor poor SamsungJohn, another one to add in all tweets.
[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
seems like samsung bought some time with "releasing sources" to prepare for round 2.

DING DING DING motherf*****s
[Galaxy S III General] :
Sometimes even Santa can't help...

https://twitter.com/AntonLiv92/status/272258544777183232

:D
[Galaxy S III General] :
Please create more...

;)