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[Nexus 5X General] wurzelsepp3:
I think they are doing the same they did with the Nexus 7, and also offer a 16Gb model for an additional 50$.

I do however like that it is GSM only, because it reduces the price and there is no LTE in my area anyway.
[Nexus 5X General] springy:
Guys, it is a Dev phone... this is not the real thing. 8GB will probably not be used.
[Nexus 5X General] funkyblue04:
There has to be a 32gb version you mean...
[Nexus 5X General] gr3if:
To speak in terms of Google and the nexus as a technical lead device 128gb should be the one...
[Nexus 5X General] titooo7:
Why do we need such powerful gpu, fullhd camera and 1080p playback if we only have 8gb of memory.

That amount of could be seen nt easily with 3 gameloft games and one video of 5 minutes recorded at 1080p.

I don't know if there will be a 16gb model, but the 8gb one will be a fiasco.

And don't tell me it's a Dev phone please, I don't think any dev will spent 400$ in a phone with 8gb of internal storage without microsd slot.

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[Nexus 5X General] funkyblue04:
We will have awesome specs and a crippled device. I am tired of hearing about SD Slots. It's not going to happen people!

Focus on it being at least 32gb.
[Nexus 5X General] gr3if:
Man really... Why should you build an expensive 32gb phone for testing purpose?
[Nexus 5X General] Kojaes:
So i am betting on 399$ 8gb and 499$ for 16 gb.

8gb being loss leader .
[Nexus 5X General] Nebucatnetzer:
The Nexus has never been a lead device. More something like a average standard for the next Android version.
[Nexus 5X General] @rbiter:
I am betting I won't buy this piece of crap if i can't load apps and music on it. Seriously? Wtf do I do with a headphone jack and 8mp camera for if I can't use it?

If people are smart you wont be buying this phone and sending a message to Google that we need storage space. Otherwise you're just a crack head.

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[Nexus 5X General] Kojaes:
Wtf with these kind of posts . Listen there's 8 gb version which is great at my country because we have cheap unlimited program .

and you can add an extra 50 /100 $ for 16 gb . whats the problem ?
[Nexus 5X General] SIGUEL:
I think we're over reacting, there will be a 16GB model (1 of the test phone had 16GB) and prolly a 32GB model (like the NEW Nex7 models). I wouldn't make any sense crippling to only 8GB.

8GB $350

16GB $400

32GB $450

SKYNET
[Nexus 5X General] Mooem7:
I really hope there's a LTE variant coming out not to far down the road. The 8 GB storage I MIGHT be able to live with, but no LTE is a no go for me. I mean there has to be a carrier variant that is a little more full featured than what it looks like they plan on offering through the Play Store.
[Nexus 5X General] crazyfool_1:
People understand all we have is a prototype so far right? Why would Google release an 8GB phone except for loss leader and in even in that case there will at LEAST be a 16gb version as well.. It's a prototype, pages and pages of *****ing about its not enough storage when they haven't even unveiled the phone yet lol
[Nexus 5X General] z3nith66:
Thinking that the OS itself takes some of the storage, so you won't even have 8GB and that a game like The Bard's Tale has 1.5GB (future games will be even bigger) it doesn't make much sense to release it with 8GB storage, especially for a device that boasts the latest and greatest in hardware capability.

I'm hoping to see 16GB minimum, I believe that 8GB was for the prototype only.
[Nexus 5X General] heat361:
I wish there was a video of the device in action
[Nexus 5X General] derPianist:
On weekend 4shael is going to upload a Video.

via Google Galaxy Nexus

Pianist ain't Weasel though you've been SPANK'd
[Nexus 5X General] @rbiter:
Making sure my voice is heard. There is little reason to release an 8gb version. After formatting, os and miscellaneous files there will be ~5gigs left. Load up a few apps and you're looking at 4gigs. Add the overhead leftover when you top out your storage there really is only about 3.5gb usable. What kind of **** is that?

Anyways, like I said making sure my voice is heard. The way Google is acting lately and OEM's with their bs overlays and not moving to software buttons and I am starting to consider other os'es. If I wanted to be limited I would biy an iPhone. The cloud is just a move to have access to everybody's data. Not that I mind cloud nor am I concerned about privacy but internet access isn't available 100% of the time aaaand more importantly you can't beat the accessibility of local storage, not to mention the positives of local storage far outweigh the negatives. Too many people laying down and trying to pander that these corporations know what is best for us so these same people are shoving it down our throats. How many 64gb android phones are available? What 0? There are very few with 32gb and SD slot available and the ones that are still use physical and/or capacitive buttons. I don't know about y'all but I use my phone for media and 16gb is not even a drop in the bucket for me. I want to do more videos and put more high quality music/media on my phone but I have to keep compromising because everybody is addicted to smartphones and very few are smarter than their phones or the corporation that keep putting shackles on you.

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[Nexus 5X General] titooo7:
The reason why we keep talking about the 8gb model is because ven gsmarena informed that a 8gb model will be sold. I really hope they are wrong and as other people say the only LG nexus with 8gb will be the prototype.

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[Nexus 5X General] SIGUEL:
I don't know if you suddenly forgot, but, there are other Android phones with similar specs and 16/32gb + expandable storage, maybe, just maybe the Nexus is not the phone for you.

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[Nexus 5X General] heat361:
Really when did he say that lol

Edit: never mind I asked him myself and he said over the weekend thanks
[Nexus 5X General] 4shael:
I said it yesterday, and where is "lol"?)
[Nexus 5X General] franchise:
Damn. I didn't mean to thank you but oh well.lol

Anyways ,yea the 8 GB model would suck but when I think about it. Google has/is big on the cloud storage stuff so I can see why it would be an option. Low storage = making everyone use the cloud.
[Nexus 5X General] heat361:
the reason for the "lol" is because I have been watching this thread very closely and I don't know how I missed that
[Nexus 5X General] brar.arsh:
Does your phone gets updates or it has already been blacklisted by Google?? :p
[Nexus 5X General] 4shael:
I think i could did it in PM )
[Nexus 5X General] jjsoviet:
8GB at $399

16GB at $449

32GB at $499

The 8GB version is likely to be the loss leader device as some have said. I'm betting big that higher storage variants will be available to appease a wider demographic.
[Nexus 5X General] 4shael:
I think there are no public updates for unreleased phone yet)
[Nexus 5X General] heat361:
Oh OK :)
[Nexus 5X General] brar.arsh:
Source?? :laugh:
[Nexus 5X General] mista1982:
When we will see benchmarks ans the full review?.. yesterday you tell, that today will release the Review..

Thanks for your good job!
[Nexus 5X General] 4shael:
Yep, it will be ready very soon!
[Nexus 5X General] brar.arsh:
Dont use "VERY SOON" word.. :cowboy:

Samsung used the same word on 29th August for Jelly Bean Release and it has been almost 1.5 months and still nothing.. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 5X General] redbullcat:
Hey 4shael. Asked this yesterday but you seem to have missed it. No problem though :) is there any possibility you could compare this phone to a Galaxy Nexus and publish some photos? I'd like to see it compared for size, thickness, etc.
[Nexus 5X General] Greg Tolan:
I have been hearing that LTE is locked down similar to the way CDMA is but without explanation. Why can’t they make an unlocked LTE device? I thought LTE is GSM technology which would mean that it should be portable. This thing needs to be pentaband HSPA+ 42mb with ATT LTE bands or it is DOA in the United States. Making an inferior device as far as cell/data technology is not acceptable. Imagine the iphone 5S without LTE….
[Nexus 5X General] jjsoviet:
It's just a speculation. I didn't say it's official or anything. :P
[Nexus 5X General] samarth1:
You can blame the messed up US cellular industry for that. Rather than adopting a common standard like GSM, every one of the big 4 carriers operate on their own bands, which are mutually exclusive. And I'm sure Google doesn't want to release 4 different versions of the same phone to keep costs down. All said and done, it will be GSM pentaband, and will support HSPA+ 42, which is plenty fast, and bordering on LTE speeds in certain places. It is a compromise for selling a device for $399/449 on the Play Store rather than at your local ATT, Verizon, T-Mobile, or Sprint store. And when Google tried it, we've all seen how badly Verizon messed up the GNex launch. There is certainly a possibility that they will release a specific carrier branded Nexus like they've done with the GNex for Sprint and Verizon, but that will most likely be Q1 of 2013. It's unlocked, GSM only for now.
[Nexus 5X General] heat361:
There will be no Verizon model according to the source that leaked the price do to the fact that they would not let Google handle the ota updates
[Nexus 5X General] samarth1:
What a shambolic time we live in. Where the carrier exerts more power on the OEM and consumer that feeds it than the other way around.
[Nexus 5X General] kiy0shix24:
Where is the leak of the price?
[Nexus 5X General] Greg Tolan:
Right, so Google could make a phone that is pentaband GSM and ATT LTE compatible without ATT stopping it, much the same way ATT can't/didn't stop Google making a pentaband galaxy nexus work on their network. Basically..if they put the tech in the phone ATT is just dumb pipes for LTE, like GSM...is that correct?
[Nexus 5X General] samarth1:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-N...-October-29th-8GB-memory-and-GSM-only_id35460

---------- Post added at 10:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:19 AM ----------

Not quite. LTE and GSM are different protocols. Think of GSM and CDMA as the forefathers of the modern LTE network. LTE is a specific protocol that operates on different frequencies, and as such, a phone needs to be implemented to specifically support them, much like CDMA or GSM. GSM is convenient because most of the world also uses that standard, whereas CDMA and LTE are proprietary to a specific network in a specific country. So you can imagine how much of a pain it would be to integrate support for all those frequencies in one phone. Which is why even the iPhone 5 has different models that support different LTE networks.
[Nexus 5X General] :
I'm pretty sure that that's correct, yeah.

I remember reading something a while back(sorry, I forget where) that LTE devices need carrier permission to be activated, but GSM devices don't, which is why pay as you go offers with no monthly commitment(like we have in the UK where you top up only if you want to make calls etc) just work. This is how I run my phone and so I'd be very happy about a $399 price point for the 8GB version.

That would be about £325 here, if they follow the same formula they did here with the Nexus 7(exchange rate plus 30%, 20% of which is VAT - sales tax) pricing. Most high-end unlocked phones here are £400 to £500 and I believe the Nexus S was about £400 on launch here and I paid something similar for the Galaxy Nexus, too.
[Nexus 5X General] kiy0shix24:
Awesome, I plan on getting the 16gb if it goes for $450 but if not I will definitely pick up the 8gb. This will be a mega upgrade from my atrix 4g.
[Nexus 5X General] samarth1:
I feel your pain. I had an Atrix 4G, and that terrible screen burned my retinas every time i had to use it. Not to mention the old, sucky motoBlur. That was the only non-nexus smartphone I've ever used. Never again...
[Nexus 5X General] larkdawg03:
AT&T couldn't stop them from making a pentaband phone because GSM is open source. Anybody can use the technology/nobody has exclusive rights. So essentially AT&T and T-Mobile have to be on one of the 5 pentaband frequencies. However (from what I am gathering from previous posts) thanks to the messed up American cellular system everybody has different LTE bands and there is no standard. So either Google/LG would have to make a different version for every LTE network (which is NOT cost efficient at all) or they would have to have a pentaband LTE radio in the phone that can use every LTE band. And I don't that's possible. If it was battery life on that thing would SUCK.
[Nexus 5X General] samarth1:
That's right. And the LTE fragmentation is here to stay in this country, since all 4 carriers are busy rolling out more cities that support their own, proprietary LTE bands.
[Nexus 5X General] 4shael:
So here is the review: http://tech.onliner.by/2012/10/12/lg-nexus-4-review/ - sorry, no English, onle Russian, use google translate)
[Nexus 5X General] 4shael:
I can add to this review that front-camera has 1Mpx (1024*768) and battery capacity seems to be 1500 mAh
[Nexus 5X General] raze599:
Great review. The bugs in there make it certain that the phone you have is a very very early prototype and they would have improved upon it by now. It even says revision 1 on the back. Overall I think this will be a killer device.
[Nexus 5X General] Nebucatnetzer:
Well I reckon they saved on that part to for the prototype.

No sane person would build stuff like this in a high end phone which would go on sale.
[Nexus 5X General] raze599:
I agree with Nebucatnetzer, that battery is way too small to actually put in a mass production phone. Front camera I am also expecting something slightly better.
[Nexus 5X General] fredcorp6:
Hope the battery is at least 2400 mAh
[Nexus 5X General] ctfrommn:
I expect it wil end up being the same 2100 mAh as the Optimus G.
[Nexus 5X General] :
I think we are Google's focus group and they are using the media and leaks to test their product before they make final changes.
[Nexus 5X General] Nebucatnetzer:
Would be a smart idea and useful for both the company and the consumers.
[Nexus 5X General] raze599:
It would be a wise choice, and because the Nexus range isn't adopted by the mass market there isn't as much danger of other manufacturers stealing ideas :D
[Nexus 5X General] doodads:
Interesting review. The 1500mah confirms what everyone should know. A prototype is just a prototype. I did enjoy the extra high quality pics. The gnex looks fugly in comparison.
[Nexus 5X General] jjsoviet:
The fact that this first hardware version has some real good quality to it despite the software issues makes this a compelling choice for me. I hope the final, production model comes with at least 16GB and updated cameras and battery capacity.

Also, since the pogo pins are absent maybe the Nexus 4 has an inductive charging option? Would love to have it.
[Nexus 5X General] bendirkss:
The nexus isn't gonna have 2400 batter and 32GB storage and the best of everything. It doesn't introduce new hardware, it just takes some of the best that's already here. You buy the nexus for the software, not to get the best hardware.

Sent from my S3
[Nexus 5X General] mattdm:
I have to chime in about something from a few pages back.

I agree onscreen buttons are better than hardware buttons in most senses, but the point still stands...if the hardware buttons are gone, then why the hell is there still so much bezel space below the screen? Extend the screen down so that the onscreen buttons are where the hardware buttons used to be, then people won't complain about losing screen real estate, and the overall size of the phone will be more compact.

Also, the onscreen buttons don't go away when watching youtube videos on my phone...they just dim and turn into dots, but the screen space is still lost.

I'm hoping, given that this model is a prototype and not a production phone, that the final release will do away with the unnecessarily large upper and lower bezel.

Think about what you just said. If it takes the best of what's already there, it will have a 3300mah battery, 32gb of storage, and a microSD slot. 2000mah to 2500mah batteries aren't ahead of the curve these days; they're average. And 8gb of storage? The Nexus S had 16gb, and that was two years ago. We're not asking for the next Nexus to be a superphone with impossibly good specs, we're just asking for something on the upper end of average. What we seem to be getting is something woefully outdated and inadequate.
[Nexus 5X General] :
I really do hope this is an unofficial focus group, as there are some things that need to be fixed. The general tone on the internet from what I gather is not too positive at the moment. Google I hope you are reading these comments and plan on making changes :cool:
[Nexus 5X General] Zurginator:
Someone needs to implement an edge-swipe gesture to show the on-screen buttons -- have them work as an overlay, and hide them automatically.
[Nexus 5X General] raze599:
I'm pretty sure there was already something going on to try and implement that. Just as in JB if you hold the home the Google Now icon pops up, somebody was making something that if you hold the bottom of the screen those buttons pop up. I read it a while ago so I'm not sure what became of it.
[Nexus 5X General] Waza_Be:
For all the people stupid enough to complain about the 8 Mpixels and askin,g for 13:

From Jean-Baptiste “JBQ” Queru on G+:

Of cameras and pixels

I've never been impressed by high pixel counts. Generally speaking, I find that adding pixels in a camera of a given size has primarily 4 results: slower shooting, worse low-light performance, larger files, wobbly videos.

I'm surprised at all the talk about phone cameras reaching close to 10MP (and sometimes higher).

For me, a high-resolution phone camera could be 2.3MP, i.e. 1920x1200. That crops perfectly to a 1080p size for video and TV slideshows, that crops perfectly to 1800x1200 for 300dpi 4x6" prints. Assuming a 4.5mm sensor, those pixels would measure barely 2 microns, which is already overkill as you're not likely to get a lens sharp enough to create such small details.

Really, it seems that 1.1MP would work great, i.e. 1280x960. That crops perfectly to 720p for video, that prints as 213dpi for 4x6" which is reasonable, and that trivially downsamples to VGA or QVGA for videoconferencing. Those pixels would be 2.8 microns on a 4.5mm sensor, which is a reasonable match for the typical f/2.8 phone lens.

From now on, I'll mentally read phone camera specs as "1.1MP". All the extra pixels just get in the way.
[Nexus 5X General] ctfrommn:
Seems the better option would be to simply have them appear upon any touch input just like the back light does on the hardware buttons. that would be slick. I do prefer on screen also, my N1 screen is just too small to use them, but I definitely like the direction Google is going with this.
[Nexus 5X General] heat361:
Wouldn't it make sense to hide the whole software bar when your not touching the screen. Then when you touch the screen it pops back up sort of like when you hide the windows bar.
[Nexus 5X General] samarth1:
Thanks for posting this. It is sadly the fate of cameras (smartphone included) these days, that they're measured more by their megapixel count than their sensor size. I would gladly accept a 5MP camera all day long if it had a sensor the size of the PureView 808 or the Lumia 920. In our quest to make handsets thinner and thinner, sadly the camera module is one of the first casualties.
[Nexus 5X General] Lootes:
Anyone else notice that on the back it says Hardware rev. 1.0 0821? I am curious how old this prototype is and how many other revisions are out there? I am not sold yet on this being the final design. Also, I am not sure I will go another year without LTE in my device. I am just hoping Google has something up their sleeve in regards to that.
[Nexus 5X General] ctfrommn:
Indeed, and thats what I was getting at, I just didnt explain it as well.
[Nexus 5X General] iucidium:
But if LG are implementing their 'wide diameter lens' a La the Optimus G, were fine.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 5X General] Chad_Petree:
8 gb on a phone should be a crime ,16 GB should be the very minimum
[Nexus 5X General] klone96:
What are the odds they make an 'International' version they way they did with the Gnex ? I really like they way my White Gnex gets all the attention also do u think its worth going from Gnex to NexG or wait for a software update? The specs alone (So far) are interesting but it looks like a cheaper build of a Gnex. Also it does kinda suck for Googles flagship device to come out and not surpass other phones that are already out. If Google starts to do the same bs apples doing Idk what I'd do.. from 4-4s-5 lil changes made. Now from Gnex-NexG its the same! Both phones even look alike! Come on Google.. I hope this is just a testing device and not the official device
[Nexus 5X General] heat361:
4shael maybe you could upload a video of the device in use :)
[Nexus 5X General] martonikaj:
Simply based on the fact that we haven't heard/seen any leaks of this device with carrier support or branding, this may be the one and only model for the whole world.
[Nexus 5X General] heat361:
Google is trying to make an affordable phone hopefully the 8gb goes $349 and the 16gb goes for $400. That will force them to drop the galaxy nexus to $300.
[Nexus 5X General] xdviper:
I agree, but Google's flagship doesn't have to surpass other phones, it's just reference hardware.

I really hope that Sony comes through later on this year with an Android Nexus Device. I'm not liking this.
[Nexus 5X General] funkyblue04:
I do not care about affordable. I want pure Google with 32gb. I weant to stop my own movies and 1gb games and music!'

Why does Google keep crippling the Nexus? Look at Apple, you can even buy 64gb! They are not scared of having the cloud and offering storage space!
[Nexus 5X General] heat361:
If only game data could be stored in the cloud directly from google
[Nexus 5X General] aooga:
Here's my question...HOW THE HECK DO PEOPLE GET THESE!?!?!?!?!!?

I WANT ONE!!
[Nexus 5X General] xdviper:
Then how am I going to play Aspahlt7 on my Nexus7 while I'm on the train?
[Nexus 5X General] rohan32:
If you could get me a system dump, it would be greatly appreciated.
[Nexus 5X General] funkyblue04:
The problem is I do not want to use the cloud. I want LOCAL storage. Google just hates giving local storage. I can live without SD Card. My 16gb device is full and I'm tired of having to change and move stuff all the time.
[Nexus 5X General] krazie1:
How do you do a system dump? Whats the most efficient way, ADB or Clockwork Recovery Backup?
[Nexus 5X General] ironside2011:
How's the transitions like from app to app? And is there any noticeable lag on the browser.
[Nexus 5X General] heat361:
I know exactly how you feel and its not like ssd is sooo expensive and the price of ssd is going down everyday.
[Nexus 5X General] radiohead14:
are those two headphone inputs on the bottom? how loud is the speaker? how is the camera quality? thanks!
[Nexus 5X General] Rawat:
Quoted res is wrong. include notification and nav bars, and it's 1280 x 768.

Oh, and the square 320 PPI screen is probably wrong too. That's just the DPI setting for XHDPI screens
[Nexus 5X General] heat361:
I believe they are for screws the headphone jack is at the top
[Nexus 5X General] K.AuthoR:
Does it have a notification light?

No notification light, no deal. Please add that feedback to your device experience for me, if you would please ;)
[Nexus 5X General] klone96:
Look.. I don't want the NEXUS line of devices to be affordable, I want them to be the best android device on the market when they release! If that means its a $400-$700 device then so be it.. as long as its worth the amount I'm willing to spend. After watching the video of the Lg Optimus G I was excited and eager for Lg to make the next Nexus and as of now I'm disappointed. The only way this can be good if its one of the 3-4 different Nexus devices that are going to release then I can understand the lack of storage space build quality
[Nexus 5X General] ctfrommn:
I would assume that means August 21 (0821), at least thats what I took from it.