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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] arozer:
Folks, before I get flamed for posting that and before a Moderator closes my thread, please read what I have to say.

I live in Atlanta, where LTE supposedly is everywhere. Or so I thought "supposedly" when I had the Evo because ever since I got it, I've only seen it connected once(I thought maybe it just wasn't available yet.)

Then I thought maybe it was my phone since people were reporting getting 4G speeds a lot in Atlanta, so I argued my way into getting another one from Sprint. Same thing. Never connected.

Then I got myself a Galaxy Nexus. The phone was great (til I broke it) and it was always connected to 4G.

(I even made a thread about it here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1846041)

When my brother came to visit me, I even tested his Evo LTE. Same thing.

Then I broke my Galaxy Nexus and bought a Galaxy S III. To my surprise, it also always connected to 4G.

I went to Sprint and compared it to an Evo LTE to see if that one would connect. I checked the settings to make sure LTE is on and it still wouldn't connect.

Even my 3G speeds on the Samsung devices are better.

Thus, I learned so far that Samsung's antenna's are a LOT better than HTC antenna.

(FYI, I do not work or am endorsed by Samsung in any means. Matter of fact, I think their phones feel like cheap plastic pieces of sh*t and I wish I could have my HTC again (in working condition.))

Maybe we need to pressure HTC into putting in better antennas in our phones.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubyknight:
Are you sure you were on LTE on the Samsung phones? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the EVOLTE is an LTE only phone and doesn't connect to Sprint's legacy 'faux-g' hspa network while I believe the Sammy phones do. My first Samsung phone was the intercept ( a miserable failure) and my second was the nexus s 4g(terrible reception but great phone). I've had much better luck with HTC phones when it comes to hardware.

I've only been to ATL once on a business trip and managed to connect to LTE before Sprint officially launched it so I was impressed

Edit: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE,Samsung-Galaxy-S-III/phones/7019,6330

^Here is a decent source to prove it. I blame Sprint for being d***headed enough to insist on having an exclusive version of the One-X with features that didn't leave enough room for all the radios we need. They should have just taken the One-X as it was intended by HTC. Personally there us no 4g in my area at all so the Evo works fine picking up 3g
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] arozer:
I see where you're coming from but yes these are both LTE.

Galaxy Nexus was Sprint's first LTE phone launched, then Evo and I believe then GS3.

And the speeds I'm getting (in good areas) are 20MB plus.

At work, I get a constant 3-5MB.

So I do not think it's T-Mobile's HSPA that I'm connecting to but actual LTE.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
Even if it's true, false, or up for debate, you won't get a good discussion on it here.

I foresee posts about plastic phones, pentile screens, and TouchWiz.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubyknight:
Well the point is that I think Sprint has a bigger hspa footprint than LTE so you may be getting hspa and then LTE when you enter its range(thus the good 20mb spots). Even if the Samsung radio is slightly better you should still be able to connect on the Evo...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] arozer:
I know. I figured. I was think perhaps someone could come up with a better answer here. On Samsung section, I would only get things like "Yeah Samsung all the way!!!" Etc.

I see what you're saying.

Also, I agree with the Evo should still be connecting. Not sure why it wasn't 3 Evo's at that.

(I tried all 3 different radios. Even lost my S-OFF and my Root in order to try the latest radio because I was that desperate for answers.)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] newboyx:
Sprint doesn't have a hspa network. There are no phones that connect to Sprint’s previous 4G network (wimax) and their current 4G (LTE) network.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] arozer:
Yeah that's what I thought too. Isn't T-Mobile the only one left with HSPA?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubyknight:
And honestly, Samsung vs. HTC aside, the problem is more on the carrier than HTC... Or both I guess. I used 2 friend's One X and GS3 next to each other in hspa+ 4G and they both were very close as far as load times. The GS3 person ended up swapping in her gs3 for the One X after seeing the software difference though :P Sprint just forced HTC to skimp on the radios with the extra evo features jammed in.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] newboyx:
At&t uses a hspa+ network for 4G as well as LTE.

The connection issues are well documented and have been known to Sprint since at least April.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubyknight:
Well, I could be wrong then.. Whatever tech they used for their old fauxG is what I'm talking about. Is there really no phone that can use both?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sobaked2921:
I'm in dallas and my evo drops 4g left and right. Even when I find a strong siginal it switchs back to 3g. I'm currently lookin to sell mine an gettin a gs3 as I type this. It's bull**** payim 10$ extra for **** u can't use
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] arozer:
Was not aware. It's not just signal issues. It's HTC signal issues, correct??

You're talking WiMax.

And GS3 is not WiMax compatible.

Just be aware, on GS3 you'll still have to pay the $10 fee.

Only way you won't is if you switch to a non 4G WiMax or 4G LTE phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubyknight:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...e-else-having-sprint-gs-iii-radio-issues.html

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/96470

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/92898

Honestly though, both phones are getting threads like this daily so I'm having a hard time believing any signal related complaints anymore.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sobaked2921:
Just be aware, on GS3 you'll still have to pay the $10 fee.

Only way you won't is if you switch to a non 4G WiMax or 4G LTE phone.[/QUOTE]

I know but at least ill get better connection as I impatiently wait for sprint to finish the LTE lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] -viperboy-:
I'm honestly torn between HTC and Samsung, sometimes. I love how an HTC phone feels in my hands, nice and solid. Sense looks good but can sometimes be a performance hog. Samsung does some pretty unique stuff to their devices (multiscreen, s-pen, etc) and I like that. I hate how the whole damn thing is just a bar of plastic, just don't like what it feels like compared to HTC. But software wise, Tocuhwiz isn't that bad, IMO. It's much closer to AOSP than any other OEMs version of Android.

But if you want a good read on the upcoming struggles with Samsung's Exynos-based devices, read this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1922613&page=2

Start around post 16, some really good info from a CM dev. I like Samsung for always getting out their source early, but if it's broken and doesn't compile, then it doesn't matter. And if they can't help with any low level processor stuff because it's proprietary to them, they're not helping the community as much as they try to show that they are. Just my 2 cents.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] funcrusher:
Radio aside, how do you like the GS3 compared to the EVOLTE?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] arozer:
Don't really wanna answer cuz I think you're a POS but no, I don't.

I wish I had my Evo back sometimes.

Very solid phone. GS3 freezes. My keyboard can't keep up with my typing and I end up with words like "whuoi dasu unjhoos" (this matters to me. I text a LOT.. like 500 or so texts per day.)

The speaker phones sounds terrible.

It's durable as a cold butter stick.

Feels very plastic-y.

However pros:

Service,

More developers available for it on XDA,

Very light.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] funcrusher:
LOL!

I've actually come close to trading my EVO for a GS3 a couple times. No LTE here, so that's never factored in.

Basically 3 things have kept me from doing so:

1. People want way too much +$

2. Most that I've come across not in mint condition

3. I'm lazy

Oh, and also been trying to sell a car on CL, so haven't reposted my EVO for GS3 ad in awhile.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Anthonicia:
Doesn't most of the EVO's LTE connection problem stem from software? Bc last I heard the next ota is going to address it?

Personally, I won't have LTE for another few months at the earliest. So, it doesn't matter much to the majority of the US. Granted there are a lot of EVO users in the LTE startup cities. But does this mean a mass exodus from the EVO for 4g connectivity?

I can wait to see if an ota fixes the issues. I mean what are we gonna do, go to Verizon? Hahahaha.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] klbjr:
What are some of you guys new to Sprint or their phones? First off Sprint never had HSPA so not sure where you are getting your info. Their old 4G was WiMAX and neither the EvoLTE or GS III can use it. So it has nothing to do with HTC skimping on radios or the GSIII having more radios. Maybe better quality radios but that's up for debate. Also you aren't paying $10 for a 4G phone. You are paying $10 for every smartphone in Sprint's lineup except the Replenish. They added that for all smartphones like 2 years ago. They only fee that is exclusive to the latest LTE phones is the bump up to $11 monthly insurance and $150 deductible if its lost/broken/stolen.

Sent from my EVO using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] newboyx:
Every OTA so far has addressed the radio issues...

Yep
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] arozer:
Any smart phone prior to Evo 4G did not have the $10/month fee. It was introduced when Evo 4G came out.

You must work for sprint because you are giving text book excuses.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] stanglifemike:
I pre ordered the Evo LTE planning on not having 4G LTE in or around where I live and/or work. I live about 30 minutes outside of downtown Atlanta, Georgia. My Evo 4G and Evo 3D are both 4G Wimax capable, but only had one spot near me that I would actually get a 4G signal. Even then I had to be out in the parking lot of a strip mall to get signal and would max route around 10-12mbps download.

To my surprise I have 4G LTE at my house, my girlfriend's, and at her work!! I actually get faster LTE speeds in my house opposed to outside, which would have never happened with Wimax even if it would have been brought to my area. Sitting on my bed I get around 16mbps down, and 8mbps up!! I am more than happy with those speeds as I honestly never expected to get LTE in my area, much less in my house!! My LTE connection is strong and stable. I have went days without resetting my phone(have had a habit of resetting daily for many years, back to WinMo days before Android eve existed), and never had an issue with connection. Not sure what a Sprint S3 would get here speed wise, but I honestly don't care as I am totally satisfied with my Evo LTE even though upon my recent exchange I received the 1.15 hboot. Even though I can't currently s-off my phone(and may never be able to) I am fully satisfied and wouldn't even consider swapping it for another device!!

Oh, 3G speeds are twice as fast (up and down) compared to my Evo 3D

I realize that these are just my results and my opinion of the phone, but it does show that not all Evo LTE's have issues with LTE connections.

---------- Post added at 05:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:31 PM ----------

+1 This man is CORRECT!!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
I will concur that the $10 started with 4g. If you asked what it was for, they would say it was for premium features that the 4G would provide. A class action suit was started, as there was next to no 4g, so there were no premium services. To address the suit, they simply changed the rules and said any new smartphone would now have the $10. Not only did this make the suit go away, they made a crapload more mula.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mababer1:
I switched from the Evo 4g lte to the galaxy S3. Its actually not a bad phone at all. Rooting it was a breeze
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
The EVO LTE connection issues in regards to LTE signal have been discussed here already and also compared to the SGS3... No need for another thread with a title that's asking for a giant Sammy vs HTC debate.

This has also been discussed over at s4gru.com too. Hopefully its still a software issue and not hardware related.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ashley2012:
Hello! First time poster here. I'll start with a quick overview:

My mum had a galaxy s2 on an orange contract. She's decided to give it to me. However, when I put my tesco mobile SIM in the phone and try to call it says 'Mobile network not available'. I tried to see if it needs unlocking by dialling #SIMLOCK# but I got the same message.

How do I fix this problem? Is this a case of me needing to unlock the phone? My mum has never gone on the internet with the phone and so won't have installed any new firmware etc.

Sorry if this comes across as a simple question. Any help appreciated!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theunderling:
Yeah it is simple.

Root phone,backup efs then use helroz unlock tool.
[HTC Rezound] geronimo48:
I have noticed some people comment that they don't like Sense, but they don't say why. It seems fine to me. Can anyone tell me the downside?
[HTC Rezound] shrike1978:
It's a resource hog, plain and simple. The look and feel isn't bad, better than some of the other overlays for sure, but I much prefer stock Google for look and feel too.
[HTC Rezound] SirSigma:
With 3.6 and earlier, I didn't really care too much about Sense, but over time I started to really appreciate how they included everything I need instead of only a few things that don't work so well. I really don't like AOSP widgets, for example.

Then when Sense 4 came around, I knew I loved Sense after all. It's so polished and usable.
[HTC Rezound] shrike1978:
Maybe if I used widgets, I'd like Sense better. The only widget I run regularly is weather.
[HTC Rezound] SirSigma:
One of the things I find so invaluable about Sense is the calendar widgets. They are by far the best I've ever used on Android, and I've yet to find a Google Play app that provides widgets on the same level.

The music app on Sense is also really decent already and integrates perfectly with the lock screen.

Oh, and Peep is pretty decent as well. The Twitter app it comes with is rather nice.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
I don't like sense. There's too many visual elements that do t look right, even in sense 4. If I took the time to theme it just the way i like it, I might be able to enjoy it. But AOSP is so much smoother and faster.

The only thing I love about sense is that clock widget. I can never get the clones to work properly with my set up D:
[HTC Rezound] luke61456789:
The only problem is that weird in call voice bug Nd the camera sucks on aosp
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
It's cool but I just get bored with it. It feels simple.

Gs3
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
I've never used AOSP on the Rezound (I don't even have my Rez anymore) so I don't know what that's like :p
[HTC Rezound] CharliesTheMan:
I love sense personally. And since 4, sense 4.1, and sense 4.5 all have lots to like about them.

I like AOSP too, but I get bored with it after a little while and miss sense.
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
No. Boo on Sense.
[HTC Rezound] texascfdad:
I like sense, but its all I've used since my eris, inc1 and inc2. My wife has moto and I hate the look of it. I have flashed aosp roms before. Aosp is faster and smoother, but I don't like having to spend all the time to set up the look of my phone and the widgets aren't that greatand stock camera leaves a lot to be desired. Sense widgets are really useful and polished and the camera is one of the best. And it looks good already so I don't have to download a lot of themes and widgets from the market if I don't want to. I read an article that said sense takes away from the enginuity or innovation of android. But most android updates have included things that sense already incorporated previously. I had multi-touch pinch zoom and flash on donut, android added it in eclair. Sense had pinch to show all your homescreens in froyo but stock android didn't add it until gingerbread. But as mentioned before, it is a resource hog and you will get the most from your hardware with aosp. So its a give and take and really up to the user, but I prefer it.
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
The sense 4 launcher is great. And that is it.
[HTC Rezound] webleeper:
Loved the speed and simplicity of AOSP but the camera absolutely blows when compared to Sense.
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
This.
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
Totally agree. I never realized how ****ty the stock camera was until I started comparing my images from before AOSP and after switching to AOSP. Now that I am stuck with this ****ty AOSP camera, I am starting to realize why so damn many people use that stupid Instagram app!
[HTC Rezound] vgjunkie:
I like some of the integrations that Sense has. It's gotten better, but it's still a bit sluggish to me. I've flopped back and forth between AOSP and Sense ROMs.
[HTC Rezound] Obaterista93:
I liked Skyraider back on my thunderbolt, but that was 2.1. I liked the look of 4.0 but didn't really enjoy the feeling til 4.1. I switch between aosp and sense basically every other day. Lol.
[HTC Rezound] loonatik78:
Of ALL the mobile operating systems out there, plain old vanilla Android is far and away the ugliest, most unrefined SOB in the group. It NEEDS something to dress it up. I actually wish Sense would go further. Like how about a real dictionary? BlackBerry and Apple put Android to shame in that department. And why do Android stock widgets have to be so unsightly and feature poor? Android's stock camera app has pretty much sucked on just about every device I've ever flashed it on, too. I'm perfectly happy to sacrifice speed for functionality if all the speed is doing is making another ugly, unrefined app, widget, or screen appear before me quicker. I've never handed a phone to someone after flashing AOSP on it and have them say "Hot damn, that ugly crap is FAST!", but I have handed phones to people with tight custom ROMs and fast kernels and had them say "Wow... This is the smoothest (fill in the blank) I've ever seen!"
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
aosp is ugly and boring. seems very utilitarian. I love how my rezound looks, but performance wise, I like the speed of aosp. I'm a certified sense lover, especially after having the nexus and the s3, and I can't wait for the dlx running the newest version.
[HTC Rezound] shrike1978:
I personally disagree with the "ugly and unrefined" assessment. Simplicity is elegance. The more features added to a user interface, the less usable it becomes...that's a fact of design. It's one that Google and Apple are well aware of, but the OEM's have almost universally missed. I've never once picked up a phone with an overlay and though to myself "this it so much better than AOSP." It's always been, "this phone is nice, I just wish it didn't have this Sammy/HTC/Moto crap all over it." The beauty of Android is that if there is that feature that I do want and am missing, there's an app for it, so I don't have to pollute other user's experiences just to get it.

Then again, as I've mention before, I don't use a lot of widgets, so my opinion might be completely different if I did. I've also never noticed the camera, because I don't think I've used a stock smartphone camera since my original iPhone.
[HTC Rezound] chaos254:
I could not stand blur when I had my Droid X. Sense doesn't bother me as much and I've actually come to like it. I've been on newts 4.1 and I can't complain.
[HTC Rezound] JWhetstone02:
one word which keeps me on Sense.... CAMERA
[HTC Rezound] chris23445:
I personally love Sense. Every smartphone that I have had so far is an HTC, and I plan on keeping with that pattern (as long as they go back to removable battery and SD card slots).

I just bought a Rezound and I'll get it next week, I'm so excited to finally put a Sense 4 ROM on my phone! :D
[HTC Rezound] iamwalterwhite:
Sense has been able to successfully integrate the best parts about any kind of media into their UI. It is a FANTASTIC way for people who aren't technologically savvy to get their fix. It is the next best to iOS for a user experience due to ease of use. Me however, I like to tweak, push, and figure the best way to make something work (which AOSP does). It's a preference. I'd venture to say that somebody who loves Sense is less of a tweaker than somebody who loves AOSP. Don't get me wrong though; sometimes I like to go back to Sense because of the way the HTC has been able to make everything WORK. I'm just glad that we have both. It would suck if the only option that we had was Touchwiz. Hell, we have Touchwiz, Sense, and AOSP. How many phones can say that? Thanks to our fantastic Dev's... we can.
[HTC Rezound] evilstewie23:
Ha you said tweaker :D

Sent from my Rezound high on cm9!
[HTC Rezound] iamwalterwhite:
Sometimes the draw of flashing feels like the strength of... you know. Not that I would know from experience or anything...:D
[HTC Rezound] evilstewie23:
I feel you lol

Sent from my Rezound high on cm9!
[HTC Rezound] iamwalterwhite:
I believe that one of our devs even refers to us as "crack flashers". Just sayin"...

Edit: hahaha, even funnier because your sig says "high on cm9"!
[HTC Rezound] NEXUSBOY:
I love sense:)

my htc
[HTC Rezound] hgoldner:
I have run AOSP and Sense (2.0 - 4.0) ROMS, and still run AOSP on my tablet, but I keep coming back to 3.6. For me, the task, calendar and people widgets' interactivity with an Exchange account is the principal reason for me to have a smartphone of any kind, and coming from PalmOS, Sense just feels more feature-rich. I definitely don't like what happened to those widgets in the change from 3.6 to 4.0.

Sent into the innertubes from my Arnova 10 G2.
[HTC Rezound] CosMiiK:
the sellwa

Iv used 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, AOSP, and AOSP themed sensed ROMs. My favorite so far are 3.6 and 4.0. 3.6 for its theming capabilities. But 4.0 is very fast, especially on an OverClocked Kernal. After all, I did buy the Rezound over the nexus for sense and beats audio. The Specs of both phones are both great so really there isn't any need to brag about either.
[HTC Rezound] docbutts:
Of all the motoblur/touchwiz/whatever uis that I've used it definitely like sense the best, but I'm just a sucker for AOSP. Sense is really slick though.
[HTC Rezound] evilstewie23:
Except the camera and radios lol

Sent from my Rezound high on cm9!
[HTC Rezound] scy1192:
I like Sense, but I *prefer* AOSP (and kangs based off of it). I just like the cleaner look and speed. I'd take Sense over iOS or WP7 any day, though.
[HTC Rezound] Afro Samurai:
I can understand the love for AOSP/AOKP but I'm a sense guy personally.
[HTC Rezound] mjh68:
Pretty much how I feel. Asop is so bland , and I really don't see that it's faster than sense in my use.
[HTC Rezound] LOBBS:
I'm somewhere in between. I prefer the Nova Prime launcher to the stock HTC Rosie for its customization. I like to use icon packs and I want them both on the home screens and the app drawer. It just provides a more unified look throughout the phone. However, running this launcher over Rosie can get laggy. For these reasons, I gravitate towards de-Sensed ROMs. What keeps me from going full-blown AOSP is the camera and all the other parts of Sense that are just plain well integrated. I love the HTC Sense apps but can live without the widgets on my homescreens and with UCCW I can even live without the famous HTC clock.
[HTC Rezound] Superm@π:
I hate sense personally. Looks too happy cartoony as far as menu and Widgets. but if the camera is the only reason you like it then why not load a sense rom on boot manager and just switch when you know your going to need super HQ pics that day?
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
i am a huge *HUGE* aosp supporter. i love the clean, fast feel :) then again i also LOVE sense 4.X and on. 3.6 could have been skipped completely, and i wouldnt care. sense 4 is by far the best skinned version of android we have, and i keep going back to it :)