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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
I feel as if he just means Android is a more Windows like experience compared to iOS which is an obvious more Mac OS experience.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yeah...even then. I can't see any similarities between Android and Windows, or even Windows Phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
Similar icons maybe.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zerocool79346:
He was trying to say that Android is unstable because it runs on so many variations of hardware. What he should have said was Linux, but trolls aren't very good at their reasoning.

BTW, I'm curious, how exactly is Project Butter implemented?? You can give me a link if you'd rather not type up an explanation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
There is actually quite a bit to it, but I think AndroidPolice has done a great job in breaking it down.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...roject-butter-how-it-works-and-what-it-added/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
I don't see Android as unstable, just maybe not complete.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Agreed. I see it as a long term work in progress.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
Having beta products for half a decade is Google's specialty.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Deal with it or move on.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fire n mage:
Please, we all know that you are a isheep pretending to own an Android to gather information on how to further develop iOS.

but in all seriousness, please sell your device and leave this place.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsomaniax:
Been running paranoid droid since 1.6 when I first got the phone 2 months ago, I always feel the phone is slower and laggier than it should be.

Please see the benchmark from androbench below. Is it alot slower than normal?

paranoid droid 2.21 (4.1.2)

trinity kernel alpha 67 (optimized for 4.1.2)

OC to 1.3ghz/384gpu

interactive

noop I/O

3.8gb free space

Would love to know what's causing the slowdown. It lags most noticeably in settings app, google now, camera, and phone app

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Here's a quick video i made demonstrating some of the lag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq7mhqmKZtA

[YOUTUBE]Tq7mhqmKZtA[/YOUTUBE]

would like to know if others have a similar experience as me. Whether this is normal behavior or is there something I need to change/tweak?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Serious_Beans:
Dude wtf are you running it at 300mhz? That's not a problem with the phone...you're probably messing with it too much. You ever try stock ROM? Until you use stock jb ota you can't say the phone lags that bad. Its lagging for you because you did something wrong or are using the wrong settings/kernels/roms
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Anthonok:
That's horrific. Time for a full wipe.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fire n mage:
Yea do a full wipe and go to stock for awhile also try a different ROM sometime. never lagged that bad for me, but roms tend to sip my battery more than cause lag, also consider changing your governor, and i/o scheduler
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsomaniax:
Not sure what i did wrong. I do have 197 apps installed though.

yeah full wipe is definitely coming in the near future.

I tried out all the I/O schedulers. Noop seems to be the best already. I even changed it to performance governor instead of interactive. Still no difference..

Might have to give up all the customizations and go back to stock rom :/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fire n mage:
197 apps? Could it just be the lack of RAM for all the apps run in the background? I'm unsure but I think it could be possibly you just don't have enough ram for all those apps. I would assume the initial lag you get when opening an app would be from the phone trying to delete other apps out of the Ram. I know it's not a computer, but when you download lots of stuff your computer gets slower. That seems like the best comparison i can come up with. Can anyone confirm this idea?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsomaniax:
from what I understand, that wouldn't be the case since android is very smart at multitasking, it closes apps by itself if it needs more memory for newly opened apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
yeah, it's smart, but it's probably also thinking "wtf is this guy doing, trying to keep 200 apps installed on me"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kindred7:


Edit: quoted the wrong person originally.

Try changing your I/O to cfq and governor to pegasusq if available. I'm on xenon with little issues beyond the xda app.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KWKSLVR:
I know this sounds crazy, but try clocking your GPU normally. I realize that pretty much every GNex should handle a 384mhz OC, but maybe yours is an exception. Mine will lag in the launcher and in Google Now with a 512mhz OC. I don't think it's an app issue unless you've got some poorly coded applications. I've got almost 160 with no issues. Download System Panel (I know, I know, it costs a few bucks) and run it in the background and after a couple of days you'll be able to figure out if any apps are out of wack.

You may just need to reflash your ROM or fix permissions. Over the past week I had serious, serious lag on CM10 nightlies, I flashed the latest M-Release and all was well.

Put your GPU stock and use Rom Manager or Recovery to fix permissions and see if that helps. Google Now is definitely lagging, but do keep in mind that it's a feature that runs the fastest on a stock ROM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsomaniax:
You, my friend, is the fkin MAN!!!

I was getting ready for a full wipe when I saw your post last minute. So I proceeded to test out the Trinity 1344/307 kernel (TNP1344-307-JB-STABLE63) as one last try.

Lo and behold it solved my lagging problem. Although it's not lightning fast(I do have ~200 apps), it's now very very smooth compared to how choppy it was before.

So I guess bottom line is that not all Galaxy Nexus GPU's are created equal and mine just happen to max out at the stock clock at 307mhz.

THANK YOU FOR SAVING ME FROM HAVING TO WIPE AND REINSTALL ALL THE APPS!!! :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vash1053:
I'm not impressed with JB at all. It is laggy and has created tons of instabilities and/or odd behaviors in various apps I use.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] withbloodskies:
Well don't let me stop you but get your hands on 4.1.2. Its just amazing.

As far as apps go that just depends on that devs.. everything I use is fine. I don't understand the Facebook desktop browser thing but I'm fine with it.

Its not that its slow but that it closes my browser constantly. I'll admit some things aren't perfect on jb but its better than ICS for sure lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
So you say stuff like this all day long but I'm the one who gets warnedbecause of calling you a troll?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
That's not the OS's fault... that's the dev of said app fault. -_-
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dinjek:
Seems that Project Butter need 4 cores and 2 GB RAM, then Android will be lag free.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Pro tip: Stop talking about Project Butter like it is an OS. It is a collection of fixes that have helped Android quite a bit. Not only do you not need quad core for Android yet, you don't need 2GB of ram. Not yet.

In fact, you don't need Project Butter at all for Quad Core and 2GB of ram.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Until they add more stuff to the OS again, I hope they start to slim Android down in the next releases or completely rewrite it. Nothing beats the freedom of Android, but nothing is worse than lag. Lag isn't too bad though on the Gnex.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Really though, what has fattened up Android that has slowed it down?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msedek:
Yes you need 4 cores running stock at 1.6ghz with 2gb ram :D.. Gnote 2 has no contender.. Name any device iphone/HTC whatever... Gnote 2 will blow it up....

Iphone its a high end device and so it's Gnote 2 if you match those 2 equals android leave ios in Shame..

I do really think android does a good job in low/medium end devices... Try to run ios in a low end device and see.. What people does wrong its to compare low/medium end devices with high end..

But if you want android running at it best.. And no lag at all blowing up anything go get a high end device and stop complaining about some lag here and there out of a poor grandfather old hardware running cutting edge software...

Edit: Btw Gnote 2 its still cheaper than icrap 5 :D

Enviado desde mi GT-N7100 usando Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Samsung has shown that the SIII can run ICS nice and smooth with dual cores.

I'm not saying quad core and 2GB is a waste. Just not needed for a smooth experience.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I don't really know I guess. It seems that when the jump from Gingerbread to ICS happened it slowed the interface down a bit. It was especially noticeable on my old Rezound. I thought maybe features they added to ICS may have been adding to the amount of background processes. Like I said over in the other thread though, JB is much better than ICS it terms of performance. And also like you said maybe the phone just needs a better GPU.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I guess I always figured it was the resolution jump that really hurt Android performance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I never considered that I guess. Hopefully performance will catch up now that we have resolution to where it needs to be. I can see the case of resolution causing lag on the Asus pad infinity vs Asus 300 as an example.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
No offense, but I really don't understand what this complaining is all about here. JB is a massive improvement in terms of smoothness compared to really laggy ICS. Of course you can still notice kinda jittery scroll in some apps but it doesn't change the fact that JB provides the most fluid experience among all android releases so far. There's still a field to improve, it's not perfect but... calling it laggy is pure nonsense! This weekend I played little bit with my friends iphone 4S and my brother's Lumia 920 (windows) and I seriously haven't found any of them noticeably snappier than my GNex with 4.1.2 (I think Lumia seemed little jerky in this comparison). I would say GNex (with really average old omap4) is one of the snappiest android powered phones today (if not the snappiest) which in my opinion is the best proof of how good piece of software JB is.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Some people want perfection in an imperfect world.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Yes JB is definitely an improvement. And when comparing it to my friends iPhone 4S it can hold its own, but the Gnex seems to have moments of choppiness that the iPhone doesn't. When comparing it to an iPhone 5 (which is newer hardware of course), the iphone 5 is a much better performer. iOS is so boring though and maps are really pretty bad I must say.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I agree. To be honest I haven't found iPhone 5 smoother than 4S. I haven't spent much time with that though so I believe you :) It's understandable since our obsolete tiomap (I know it's devs' most beloved chip ;) ) cannot really be compared to apple's latest CPU. (Their dual core 1ghz A6 is almost equally powerful as Samsung's quad core exynos 1.4 ghz.) That's crazy. Anyway I believe these moments of choppiness can be eliminated in future releases.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] maniaryan:
that's the problem with some of the ROMS out there, too much swag not enough horsepower!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KWKSLVR:
Sorry my suggestion didn't quite get it for ya! Sometimes it's a good idea to start fresh after a bunch of flashing, well worth the effort to keep from chasing "ghosts". :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
Its probably you, me and my girls gnexs are one hundred percent stock and are butter smooth
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
I wonder if this just comes down to your standard of smooth.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You mean all these conversations about brand of Nexus, lag, performance, OS choice, etc. all comes down to....a person's opinion?

Who woulda thunk it!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pandiculator:
You cannot have too much swag!

And more on topic, I've not noticed any lag on my gnex of any kind across pretty much every ROM I've flashed and even stock JB.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fire n mage:
Why don't you just sell your gnex dude, i saw you post on some other thread how much you basically hate your phone. Get aa phone 4s or something, not even being sarcastic
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] avez197:
What is this "lag" you speak of? Haven't experienced this since my Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smallsmx3:
Since the 4.1.2 update any little hiccups my phone had disappeared
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Open an app and count how many seconds it takes to load. If it doesn't load instantly, that's what I consider lag. Every Android device I have has had this. Sometimes they do load instantly but often they stutter when opening and switching between processes. Also an Android phone will start out running fast sometimes and then slow right down, then we will have to "tweak" it again to speed it up. That's why I can never stay stock and need to root.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I see 'lag' as the stuttering, which is low framerate in reality.

If an application is slow to load, I consider it just to be...slow :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
if an application is slow to load, i call it bad coding.

lag is stuttering
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] withbloodskies:
Its slug not lag. Lag is something occurring in online gaming.

If its the app, its the devs fault for not making the app better. If its a new app give it time. Sometimes the device can be slow, but this technically hasn't happened since ICS. Being on JellyBean 4.1.2 I haven't had a single slug or stutter.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I dunno...you can have some pretty good coding and still have a slow to load app, no thanks to java.

No stuttering is not lag, because you can have lag and high framerate.

Insert <random online game>

:p

Yea I realize I am contradicting myself. I just don't want to edit my previous response.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
I agree. Speed and smoothness are two different things. Android is plenty fast, but not particularly smooth.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 063_XOBX:
Then no matter what hardware you have you're going to have "lag". You'll never be happy if you expect everything to be instantaneous. Even with top of the line desktop hardware you won't have that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gabster21:
It's not Jelly Bean that lags, it's the phone.. Recently switched to the Note 2, don't know if it's Touchwiz or the extra processing power but there is virtually no lag, I mean NONE!

On the Nexus I used to cringe before flipping through homescreens, thinking "is it going to stutter this time or not?".. now I can come right out of any heavy app/game and everything is buttery smooth! Using Nova on both phones with same settings.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] evil_penguin:
Cool story bro.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gabster21:
Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] b1337:
Wow this is dumb
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dustrho:
LOL! Thanks for making me spit coffee out while riding my train into the office.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tameracingdriver:
Same, I thought it was just me, but I really do think my phone is faster / smoother on 4.1.2 than 4.1.1.

Although 4.1.1 was smoother than ICS I still thought it had a way to go. Now, my phone is super quick and responsive.

Totally stock as well, BTW.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] defconoi:
My old s2 which I gave my gf outperforms the gnex on cm10 with cm10 on it. PS2 has absolutely no lag, it does have more memory available though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheBigX:
Be happy with your GNex. I have a SGS3 here and I'm not happy with it!

Worse Stock Rom -> Laggy ass hell, even on JB

Not so good custom roms -> bugs, high battery usage etc...

I will get a GNex today (I switch back to my old one - HAPPY!!!) and will never get a non-Nexus device again!

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
I tell people the Galaxy Nexus is better than the SGS3 and they say unpleasant things back. You're not the first person I've heard give this opinion too.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
It only stutters if Launcher gets purged from RAM. That's why it stutters the first couple of swipes only. After it finished loading into memory, it's smooth again. I used to see this all the time when running VoIP in the background and moving in/ out of airplane mode. Now I stopped using it and it happens rarely. If Note 2 has more RAM, that explains it.

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
The iphone 4s and 5 open just about everything instantaneously. I am talking about native apps like dialer, mail, calender etc. I realize that they have a lot less to their interface though. Don't get me wrong the GNex is fast and better off than a lot of Android phones, but there is a pause. I am getting sick of playing the "need better hardware and processor" game every 6 months, for Android to perform smoothly.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Just wow. That has little to with interface and more to do with CPU speed and I/O of storage and ram. Loading up apps on my quad core Intel sandy bridge takes time to load apps and I have 256gb ssd and 8gb of 1600mhz ram. I think what you're describing is impatience. And a dash of you're doing it wrong.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I don't think you guys know what I am saying. Native apps like the phone dialer for instance, should open instantly. There shouldn't be a blank screen for a second or two before it opens. I am talking about OS functionality not third party apps. I realize that things will need to load, but when comparing my Android phone with my friends and family iphones, it just embarrassing to see their year 4s beat my Nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
Again, this probably means that those native apps were preloaded into memory and never purged. Apple probably wanted something like the dialer to load instantly always, so they never purge it. I wouldn't know about Mail though. Third-party apps certainly take time to load on an iPad 2.

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It's all about whether you think "native" apps should take priority over third-party and other apps or not. For me, I never use the dialer anyway, so why should it have priority to stay in memory? (Seriously, who remembers numbers anymore? I have been using the contact list/addressbook since the advent of the cellphone.)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
I don't think you know what you're talking about. Android OS runs just like I want it to, an OS. Which happens to have phone functionality. Which I do not want loaded in ram all the time because I am doing more than things than flapping my gums worrying about why my phone doesn't load stuff like the other guy. As I said you're doing it wrong. Completely wrong. You have the wrong phone and need to sell your gnex asap and get an iPhone so it you can do revolutionary things like pop things on the screen instantly. And honestly, as smooth as iOS is it still isn't instant in a lot of cases, especially doing an OS thing like loading apps. Smdh.

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[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ro7nin:
I searched the forums and don't know what to do. I installed cwm through ROM manager. I was able to boot into cwm from ROM manager. I did a nandroid backup. I tried installing aokp build 4 but got an error (don't remember what it said now). When I tried to reboot it stays stuck on the Google screen. I don't know how to get back into recovery. I've tried rebooting by holding down power and the volume up and down buttons. It just goes back to the google screen. What can I do?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rycon33:
When you're at the bootloader, in fastboot mode, connect your n7 to the PC and execute in the command line

fastboot boot nameofyourrecovery.img

Or just use the toolkit in the sticky at dev section.

Tapatalked from my N7
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ar3na:
Hi,

I had the same issue on Friday. Started after i reflashed the recovery via Rom Manager,

I fixed it by doing the following.

Download and install this toolkit. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1809195

I managed to get the device into bootloader mode by holding the Power + Volume up and down for around 20 seconds.

Flash the Google Factory image. For me this was the only way to recover it fully. tried various other things first.

After that completes you can go through the full root and flash procedure again. The toolkit makes it all so very easy. Thanks to the developer for that.

Thanks

Ar3na
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hell-Intimidator:
Hello, I have a question about SMS Notification. I'm not sure if it's possible way able to read on notification bar instead of it set up as privacy? (such as click the SMS on notification bar to open it) Because I noticed my wife's Nexus have a ability to read the message before she upgraded to 4.1. If nothing, I'll wait for 4.1 or maybe even a 4.2 on my M.

Thanks

Sent from my XT907
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul_Days:
I once downloaded I think it was an AOSP dialer for my 4.0.4 ICS ROM. I hate Samsungs' contacts especially when searching for one. I searched and searched and cant find it, its the same one as seen in Jelly Bean. Links please?

Thanks,

Paul
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sun90:
try updating OP of ur previous thread ma8:)

opening thread after thread for ur issues is a bad practice and against XDA rules:)

hope u do understand:)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Obagleyfreer:
This one?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul_Days:
My bad....i'll try doing it as you say mate. Thanks for the heads up...i thought the contrary....if someone else wants to search for the 'JB/ICS dialer' they can find it without going through the hassle that I went through...

Paul
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul_Days:
Ummm.... Maybe...is that the one that in the people section first shows the favorites and then scrolls through the contacts?
[HTC One S] Daemos:
My friend's HTC One S has a problem, the home screen doesn't show the bottom or the right half...not a hardware problem as the screen shot shows the issue. Any solutions without wiping their data? Only does it on the home screen fyi.

See attached file for screen shot
[HTC One S] frdd:
Could always try a RUU. This WILL wipe user data though so better backup the important stuff.
[HTC One S] invasion2:
And the SD card. Root his phone, flash a ROM, see if that fixes it.
[HTC One S] Daemos:
Fixed! Just forced stopped htc sense and let it restart. Not sure why rebooting it didn't do the same.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] raed81:
is there an app that displays name only without a picture as a caller id like the pic below ?

thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] raed81:
Anyone?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] patrick_1:
I'm thinking....

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...dium=organic&utm_term=caller+name+id+name+apk
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alljokingaside:
Hey,

So a few months ago, I installed either an older version of Busybox, or the newer version I installed never stuck. Basically, I have two folders that contain the busybox commands: /sbin and /system/xbin. In Terminal Emu., when I enter a Busybox command, it seems to only acknowledge the older folder (/sbin). eg if I type in "busybox ifconfig..." or "busybox ipconfig...." I'm told that there's no such command, in so many words. How do I go about fixing this?

Would it mess anything up if I moved the contents of the newer folder (/system/xbin) into /sbin ?

Also, should there be a busybox file located anywhere (ie a file in root that's executed when "busybox" is typed into Term. Emu?) I can only locate the one in the internal sdcard directory ("busybox-stericon")

Thanks
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alljokingaside:
bumpity