yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S II General] chrcol:
lol I am not a samsung worker.

However I am not someone who is a google fanboy either and just jumps on the bandwagon that the newer android versions beat the older ones.

I use my phone a lot to make calls and the dialer on ics/jb is just plain aweful. Talk about taking huge strides backwards.

Also that I dont like some JB features eg. turning the lock screen into a home screen clone.

finally I have found just about every JB rom to be slower/less responsive to use than ICS/GB roms. sentinelrom appears to be an exception although I would put it at equal responsiveness to GB.

the S3 I have just turned on to play with and have a look at the S3 TW dialer (as n screenshots looks better than AOSP ics/jb dialer). The dialer is better than AOSP but sadly the rest of the samsung rom is not much to my liking. Also the S3 feels cheap with its very thin and floppy back panel, lack of usb cover and badly designed with tiny hard to press home button although the large screen is nice.

Having now used both the s2 and s3 my ace feels sluggish and I a motivated to get a good rom for either the s2 or s3, at the moment it still looks like I am heading to using cm7.2 on the s2.

I watched a youtube video of what looked like a radio phone in, it was a discussion about android, and they had a caller who liked touchwiz, for the entire youtube video they were mocking him because he preffered touchwiz to aosp. That I think was wrong, as there is nothng wrong with preffering other things to AOSP/google.

It seems what I want is a hybrid rom, I want AOSP based (as its light) but with a good dialer. the dialer in CM7.2 would be perfect and it seems the only way to get that dialer is to actually use CM7.2.

But back on topic. I do understand devs been annoyed with the lack of source code but its clearly not as big a problem as is made out to be as is custom roms still been made, the most noise appears to be coming from CM devs.

However samsung I think are been stupid, its doing their reputation no good and I have to wonder what their motives are for holding the code back.
[Galaxy S II General] Bruaca:
I think you don't understand the problem of the not having the source code of the exynos!

Devs are working well. But this is mostly a hobby for most of them.

I don't know how there are still guys working on this device or even on Samsung devices.

And I am not a fan boy too!

Only if I could have a real Linux distribution on this thing like on my computers...

Maybe someday it will be possible.
[Galaxy S II General] Bruaca:
RIP???
[Galaxy S II General] gazdajezda:
Seems so...
[Galaxy S II General] Lirkaren:
My S3 will r.i.p when I get my Nexus 4 tomorrow, don't know if I should run it over with the car or dump it in the middle of a lake, mabye I do both. :)
[Galaxy S II General] :
Or simply give it to someone -_-
[Galaxy S II General] Fulfen:
Send it to me, it would be nice :)
[Galaxy S II General] Lirkaren:
No one deserves this crap phone.. My S3 is freezing up to 100 times a day (not kidding) due to Samsungs crappy fix for the SDS problem the S3 has.

The phone needs a new motherboard if it's gonna' work like it should again. The screen has a small 3 cm crack, I hit the phone out of frustration due to the freezing, it can freeze 10 times in 5 mins.. Trust me no one want's this junk phone!
[Galaxy S II General] :
If you planning to kill it completly better solution is to give it to me, i will pay post taxes if you want
[Galaxy S II General] Codrea:
Just dump this trash to someone that Think s3 is nice lol.

Moving from s2 to nexus 4 feel very worthed anybody just change this exynos device to nexus :D
[Galaxy S II General] :
i would do that, but, i don't have money for that
[Galaxy S II General] szymko1995:
And only 16gb of memory is not enough for me.

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[Galaxy S II General] :
yep, neither for me :)
[Galaxy S II General] travellinground:
wish they would.
[Galaxy S II General] ElliSkyline:
I must say, this is my first time checking this thread in a while and i still got my S2 but all i can say is good luck.

Samsung will never push it, if they would they would of done it by now and its almost the end of 2013. And wheres that 4.2.2 update they were talking about?

I'm some glad i got my Nexus 4 now!

I'll never buy an Exynos powered device again!!
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
Yeah they screwed the community yet again by releasing useless crap to calm us down. I would buy a Nexus 4 immediately if it had a replaceable battery and a micro sd slot. While this is not important to have to most people, for me those are the most important reasons to buy a smartphone and since Samsung is practically the only manufacturer who provides both I am stuck to Sammy. CM10.1 works very good with the S3 and CM10.2 is already in a good state. So things are maybe not sooooo bad.
[Galaxy S II General] ElliSkyline:
Yeah that is very true useless!

What's good about new Sammy that comes out now is you can get a snapdragon version of the phone compare to an exynos. So yeah things are not so bad after all

By the time they push 4.2.2 for S2, KLP will be rolling out. Just don't buy Exynos variant that's all :p
[Galaxy S II General] bogdan1980:
Regarding nexus 4, with no microsd, there are lg Optimus g, it's super fast, it's 32gb, 13mp,but community is small. I bought it for my wife. But she still use s2...

Galaxy S2 powered by Dorimanx!
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
I didn't thought that I would ever update this thread after Samsung screwed us yet again but there is hope now. Samsung released an Insignal update of their Exynos Sources and it is something that devs can actually use with AOSP although it is really hard to implement. What good comes from it? If everything goes well, a working hw-composer and even tv-out.

The Test build is going to be for the I9300 but since the S2 has an almost identical SoC it's not far behind if everything works out for the I9300. It's great news and that's what we need :)
[Galaxy S II General] gazdajezda:
Yes, this is great news! Hopefully that means project butter will work at last :)
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
Hopefully everything will work out well and the sources won't break too much :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S II General] lasic.2000:
Hey, does this mean that this will help deva with every Exynos 4412 ( ok it does, but i mean is this what we wanted or part of this? )

Thanks, great news :D

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[Galaxy S II General] gazdajezda:
I believe the answer is yes :) We must just wait that devs analyze and use it properly...
[Galaxy S II General] gazdajezda:
O yes, it seems we actually are really close to butter, in S3 test build it works:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2524285&page=65

Yupeee :)
[Galaxy S II General] Rapepini:
So, if I'm not wrong, we'll get a better and smoother experience in AOSP Roms, right? :D
[Galaxy S II General] gazdajezda:
Exactly, S3 users already can test it. It's a noticeable faster ;) There are broken camera and video playing but when it will be fixed and applied for our device, it will be a holiday for us :)
[Galaxy S II General] ekarraldi:
statute cutcmy

is great news :good: :D
[Galaxy S II General] Jockson:
Custom roms with working project butter on the S2? Yes please. Kinda tired of touchwiz but can't use anything else because it is so much smoother. How likely is this going to happen?
[Galaxy S II General] hell-zerg:
I really hope that this build will help our Galaxy S2 and give us a better, smoother and more stable CyanogenMod ROM :laugh:
[Galaxy S II General] Bleeding-Edge-Armour:
God I hope you're right....

I can't help but feel that this might be too late, I'm not even sure if have any active device maintainers for our device anymore :crying:
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
Why too late? It's working on the S3 and the new Sources improved graphic performance noticiably. There are camera issues but I think the brilliant devs can fix this as they always do ;)

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[Galaxy S II General] zio1981ita:
I hope that some dev could try to implement some kernel upgrade

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[Galaxy S II General] Bleeding-Edge-Armour:
I suppose waiting forever for this might have made me a a bit of a pessimist :P
[Galaxy S II General] Firoz24:
When these things including in s2 i9100

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This topic should be stick. So everyone can see this. What do u say guys?
[Galaxy S II General] lomistars:
Yea why not, it's a good idea, that might help devs also
[Galaxy S II General] gazdajezda:
Eh, don't bother, just look optimistic forward and that's it :)

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You can always do some coding and help devs tgat way...
[Galaxy S II General] seanp25:
Exciting stuff.

Was close to moving on from SGS2 but not if this works out.

Are there any devs working on this for S2 now?
[Galaxy S II General] Bleeding-Edge-Armour:
I wouldn't really know where to start, I'm not saying I have no experience with coding, I just don't have any when It comes to maintaining devices :P
[Galaxy S II General] javy1986:
If you read back a little you will note that the parts required for the S2 is fairly similar to the stuff that is required for the S3, Devs will focus on the S3, when (and if) this works out, porting stuff to the S2 will follow.
[Galaxy S II General] norskedroid:
Thanks for the updates on this. Glad someone is keeping an eye out for news!

I've bookmarked the link you posted above to continue looking for progress, at least on the S3.

FYI- been keeping my S2 on NeatRom Lite, on Version 5.4.1 now. Have tried several AOSP and AOKP ROMs, but sticking with Sammy for now. Anyway, as my S2 keeps meeting my needs, I have not been compelled to upgrade the phone, as long as Devs keep giving me reasons to stay!

Respect and appreciation to all those devs out there.

Norskedroid.
[Galaxy S II General] RohanAJoshi:
. [MENTION=4195614]Scarface1991[/MENTION] :

so, that sources also includes HAL for all of above ?
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
That message from Samsung was before 2013. It was the Time where they promised that they would deliver but released useless crap on insignal. Then just a couple of weeks ago they released finally something useful. I don't think that they released everything that they promised but it's a start.
[Galaxy S II General] RohanAJoshi:
can you add link to that releases ?
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
I don't have the link right now for the insignal stuff but on the first post you can see the commits used in the Omni experimental build. Many Users said it improved graphic related performance stuff (like UI scrolling, 2D, 3D) noticeably.
[Galaxy S II General] GeeckoDev:
It basically enables us to use hardware overlays, which means that the GPU has less work to do because all the compositing work is managed by fimd. Better performance (butter), lower power consumption. :good:

Getting back to work :angel:
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
How is it possible that you are a Senior Member and not at least a Recognized Developer? I mean it's clear that you are a skilled developer.
[Galaxy S II General] XpLoDWilD:
pfft, [MENTION=5145944]GeeckoDev[/MENTION] is just another frenchie... :P
[Galaxy S II General] GeeckoDev:
I'm trying to teach a lesson to these old apes that thought that exynos was dead. :laugh:
[Galaxy S II General] seanp25:
Looking good.

When there's a build for SGS2 with the new HW graphics stuff, will it be only for Omnirom, or can it be used in CM10.1, CM10.2, CM11 also?
[Galaxy S II General] gazdajezda:
Bring it on ;)

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This is open source we're talking about :) The best part is that porting future Android versions now will be much easier and ports will be more complete... All in all: GREAT :)
[Galaxy S II General] Shillopellos9:
Please some dev answer to the question : is there gonna be support for s2 pls ive been watching this thread for days and all i see is for the s3 im not trying to rush the devs (amazing work btw :good: ) but as a flashaholic im anxious to see a test build or something for s2. :laugh:
[Galaxy S II General] infatality:
It's will comes when it's done.. Don't worry.. S3 SOC very much similar with S2..
[Galaxy S II General] :
Can't wait for 4.4 with integrated sources :D
[Galaxy S II General] hardem:
But Samsung can't give sources from the chips from closed-source brands...
[Galaxy S II General] manan001:
I hate sammy as they never take care of loyal cudtomers
[Galaxy S II General] zavorrax:
So what are you doing here? Sell your s2 and buy a nexus
[Galaxy S II General] MistahBungle:
Samsung should release proprietary source code why exactly ? Almost no company does.
[Galaxy S II General] seanp25:
Bit of bad news, seems the S3 test build actually didn't use the new hwcomposer at all.

Any performance boosts people reported were just placebo :(

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47881263&postcount=404
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
But he won't give up. Hopefully he will be able to make it work.

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[Galaxy S II General] mauriicio21:
Geeckodev reported in twitter anything like this, he is working to fix (dont remember if is about new graphic driver our mali)

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[Galaxy S II General] gazdajezda:
Yep. I feel very optimistic today ;)
[Galaxy S II General] seanp25:
work on this has stopped for now...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=48274770&postcount=422

hopefully someday our SGS2 will get a new breath of life
[Galaxy S II General] gazdajezda:
Yes, unfortunatelly :crying:
[Galaxy S II General] endstille:
ooohhhh :( i was hoping so bad and refreshing this thread every few hours to see some progrss on our i9100 :(
[Galaxy S II General] wulsic:
It sucks maybe but everything takes time let gecko he has a life too and i think it wil be in the very next months;)
[Galaxy S II General] Spyr0s:
This kind of task could take two or three months, it's not something that someone can fix in a few hours IF it can be fixed.
[Galaxy S II General] seanp25:
How many experienced devs have we left on i9100?

Getting this hw gfx working would be much more beneficial that continuing work on CM10.2 and CM11 ports to i9100 when we still have only sw graphics. HW gfx will boost performance and battery life of all custom roms.
[Galaxy S II General] gazdajezda:
Yep, but without devs we can only *****in #$@!sung!!!
[Galaxy S II General] bartoloandre98:
Im so going to buy a nexus phone when my sgs2 stops working lol
[Galaxy S II General] GeeckoDev:
I should have some time to work on it now :good:
[Galaxy S II General] :
Good news, you're our only hope for now, so it's awesome that you have the motivation for it. Also, you'll have much more time if you stop mining for doge :sly::p
[Galaxy S II General] GeeckoDev:
Can't give up the doge :laugh:
[Galaxy S II General] seanp25:
Has there been any more luck in getting hwc working with the new drivers? Any other devs looking at it?

As it stands I think we have the drivers needed now from Samsung, just need some work on it, right?
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
Havent seen any commit for s2 related to hwc( not even any translation commit lol) in gerrit.... So i guess ... No...
[Galaxy S II General] jgcaap:
Sammy is loosing costumers because of these games
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
How many customers... ?? Hardly a few percentage of population cares about LATEST updates/ custom roms... Even less would worry before purchasing whether its open source qualcomm based or closef source exynos...

All they know is s3...s4 grand xperia z.. Lol
[Galaxy S II General] boss_y:
I have nexus 4 (for personal use) and s2 (for business use) and all I can say is that s2 is reliable and has good battery usage, nexus has all the updates. So I am happy bunny. :)
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
Bunny wid 2 carrots ??? :laugh: :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II General] chaoticnoize:
With pair of cute ears..
[Galaxy S II General] tuxnice:
no update for the S2 (as foreseen...)

www.androidcentral.com/samsung-lays...id-442-kitkat?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=dlvrit
[Galaxy S II General] GeeckoDev:
As long as we get update on Exynos 4412 devices, it's cool.

Also try the new Hope Dispenser™ :D
[Galaxy S II General] :
Although I don't own any samsung devices anymore (ditched my S2) i have to commend you on your work. What you're doing is awesome!

You're putting a big stick up Samsung's @r$e. I like that :highfive::good:
[Galaxy S II General] seanp25:
Thanks very much for your work on this Geecko! :)
[Galaxy S II General] Dr. Dose:
Reading teamhacksungs irc log in these days lets me feel like i am in my childhood and Christmas is getting closer and closer :) keep on rockin geecko
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
Just read it too... Geecko gave an ETA for new hwcomposer...:p i m extremely patient anyway :D
[Galaxy S II General] jgcaap:
What's this about?
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
A working hwc for the custom roms (source compiled) ... No more lags or stuttering in cm or any cm based rom ..
[Galaxy S II General] mauriicio21:
All AOSP roms, not only cm

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[Galaxy S II General] umair42:
That will be great.Waiting for it
[Galaxy S II General] gazdajezda:
Can't wait :)
[Galaxy S II General] jgcaap:
I wish... :(
[Galaxy S II General] GeeckoDev:
Statement here :cowboy:
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
Seeing ur teamhacksung irc....:p

Oh i see...u dont like to be watched..:laugh: :laugh:
[Galaxy S II General] zio1981ita:
Does this applyes to our s2? I saw some 4210 pull requests

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY1NDE

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[Galaxy S II General] FandangoL:
Uhm,

the patch seems could be in some way related to galaxy nexus, as it touches s6e8aa0 panel (check http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/20/behind-the-glass-a-detailed-tour-inside-the-samsung-galaxy-nexu/ for reference)
[Galaxy S II General] AlexanderDG83:
Come on Samsung, release Exynos souce code!
[Galaxy S II General] dinos3:
It is end story...
[Galaxy S II General] jgcaap:
Sammy lost customers... :p i hope iPhone pown them hard só that they can become more community friendly
[Galaxy S II General] threadstone:
Any news?
[Galaxy S II General] MistahBungle:
Oh noes. Samsung lost 3 customers. I'm sure they're devastated :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II General] FandangoL:
In fact. They sells more phones than all other vendors together. I imagine how they are crying for such big loss :eek:
[Galaxy S II General] Mostafa Wael:
we are having our S3 from Q2 2012 and we are now in Q3 2014 and i see progress is very slow. That's it!

I will NEVER BUY A SAMSUNG DEVICE AGAIN! And no i will not be getting an iPhone.

May be Xperia device or nexus

However i liked your idea and i hope that there is something to change in the time being, because the more the time passes, the more samsung will not pay attention to the issue. As it claims that it focuses on the flagship phones and the updates. :laugh:

Good Bye Samsung, you are done with phones...
[Galaxy S II General] DaniCalifornia:
You know... It's not about losing a costumer or not. Ofc they won't care if I won't buy anymore a samsungphone. But hell, I don't really understand this kind of policy.
[Galaxy S II General] zman01:
This is my last phone i bought from samsung :) I rather buy a nexus or a motorola. :)

I just cant understand why they cant release the sources..
[Galaxy S II General] sumit yadav:
Guys, can someone tell me what's this...

[Feeling confused]

http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=i9100
[Galaxy S II General] AndDiSa:
As far as I know those are the sources samsung used to build Android for the i9100 but unfortunately not all of the sources which are needed to develop / adapt the low level drivers for new android releases.
[Galaxy S II General] Medici87:
Could this information be used for developing Android L 5 ??

I don't know whether developers are aware of this available source code
[Galaxy S II General] AndDiSa:
I think they are and I doubt that those sources are sufficient. Nevertheless you can build Android 5 even without the missing sources, but you probably will need to find some workaround and it will not be optimized for the SOC.
[Galaxy S II General] nhmanas:
Imagine how fast will be our sgs2 if samsung release source code. Kitkat is way faster than stock jb even without source code (way way faster with siyah based kernels). Lp is on beta but it is good too. It is too painful to use our monster without source code... Knowing it's potential but not using it is painful for me
[Galaxy S II General] merquise:
It's painful for everyone, but what can you do...
[Galaxy S II General] drraptor:
Yes, I did the same when I sent the letter.
[Galaxy S II General] androidindian:
the samsung exynos twitter have not been posting new tweets since last 2 days now.. they used to post quite a lot everyday. i hope the guy who handles their twitter or pr hasnt left them lol
[Galaxy S II General] drraptor:
He must have resigned.:D
[Galaxy S II General] androidindian:
wow!

New update from Samsung exynos

https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos/statuses/256759390118506496
[Galaxy S II General] NOMIOMI:
its good news for us but its not the solution we will never stop sending them letters and request until they will release the source code
[Galaxy S II General] thomsch:
That's the attitude

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[Galaxy S II General] androidindian:
well the only solution is " Release the sources for exynos " simple as that! when they say we are working on a solution.. doesnt sound they will release it..
[Galaxy S II General] drraptor:
Pick pushing until Samsung releases the code.

Keep carrying on the work :good:

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[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
Nice one, at least they are responding.

Here is a quote from the user Pipolino inside the German thread I created. He wrote Samsung regarding this issue and that`s what they had to say:

Site:

http://www.android-hilfe.de/samsung...gen-den-exynos-source-code-freizugeben-4.html

We have great support from Germany :)
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
And yet another Response from Samsung Mobile:
[Galaxy S II General] jebuchanan:
No further status on this?
[Galaxy S II General] Adam Hui:
Hahaha... kaboom..!!! @SamsungExynos @SamsungMobile #release it or say give up!! CMON GUYS.. BUILD THE TASKFORCE..
[Galaxy S II General] yashchitale:
Message conveyed. Open Source ftw.
[Galaxy S II General] Kigsuha:
Hum I'm XDAN00B but what is Exynos Source code ?

If Samsung release it ? Future ROM will be better ?
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
It will be a lot better, look how fast the I9100G (OMAP) got Jelly Bean which was and still is of course daily driver material. Our normal I9100 had/has several bugs and some of them cannot be solved without Samsung releasing the Source Code. Great developers like codeworkx will leave development for our SII if Samsung doesn`t change it`s attitude. It`s already happening btw, look at the SIII, codeworkx already left the development for it and he already said that in future he won`t develop for Exynos based devices if Samsung doesn`t release the Source Code and proper documentation.
[Galaxy S II General] loop4444:
hahaha @yahyoh

this made my day XD btw im original author of that comic and you are my first liker be PROUD

(sry for offtopic ^^)
[Galaxy S II General] androidindian:
Let's keep the pressure on my friends.. And samsung won't have a choice but release it. This thread should be pinned to the top for sure!
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
I really hope I will see that day of Samsung releasing the Source Code.

My contribution for today on Google+:
[Galaxy S II General] Codrea:
It's really frustating wait response from samsung exynos..

Hope they release it soon!

Keep pushing together every body!