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[Nexus 5X General] samarth1:
Still appalled at the blind hate towards LG and the Nexus 4 on this thread. Please read the Optimus G reviews that have been published so far. Needless to say, they have all been stellar, glowing even. The only issues they mention are software inconsistencies, android 4.0.4 instead of jelly bean, and an average camera software implementation, which we know will all be non-issues on stock android 4.2. If you are really finding reasons in the Nexus 4 to nitpick, such as the SD card slot you are never going to get, and the overwhelming majority of manufacturers moving towards non-removable batteries (Motorola, HTC, LG, and Apple), then I'm sorry to say that you're going to find yourselves waiting endlessly for something that is not going to happen. I find it quite ludicrous that we have this many so-called android enthusiasts choosing to ignore the fact that this phone sports the fastest SoC and the fastest GPU ever on a mobile device thus far, has 2GB of RAM, and a 4.7in non-pentile IPS LCD screen. Really, what else are you expecting out of a Nexus device? Or any high-end flagship phone for that matter? More so considering the fact that this will go on sale for $399/449 as has been heavily suggested. Please find me a phone with better specs for that price. If you are finding this much fault in a nexus device of all, I wish you good luck trying to find a comparable device that will be running the latest version of android at any given point in its lifecycle. And please don't tell me that you, or most people for that matter, will root if they want that anyways.
[Nexus 5X General] ctfrommn:
What device are you currently using? Even my old N1 gets better data speeds than my home internet. I WONT give cable companies a dime! I totally get the audiophile view, as I too demand high quality. I definitely think you are NOT a candidate for a Nexus phone. Great thing about Android and its open source nature. Ask Apple and Windows users about all the choices they have. I would guess in the next year or two you wont find a phone with internal storage.....cloud services and streaming is becoming the norm now. Im certain Google has there reasons for such limited storage surely $$$ is involved as they make next to none on the devices themselves. I would be curious to hear their reasoning though....I do agree they should offer many different choices as it sounds like people are willing to pay more for more storage.

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Well said!
[Nexus 5X General] Nebucatnetzer:
We're talking about a smartphone not a HiFi device.

99.9% of the people can't hear the difference anyway and the other 0.1% wouldn't hear it because the output is not good enough.
[Nexus 5X General] samarth1:
To add to this, tell me how many people you've seen out in the wild that hook up a portable AMP or DAC to their smartphones and listen to their 320kbps MP3/WAV/FLAC/AAC/OGG files on anything more than a 20-30ohm headphone. Hell, I would wager that most people haven't even heard of companies like Sennheiser, Beyer-dynamic, Grado, Audio Technica, AKG, Audeze, STAX, just to name a few of the top end, reference-quality audiophile headphones. Its safe to assume even if audiophiles cared about listening to the most neutral, reference-quality sound, they would do it in the comfort of their homes, and not on their smartphones.
[Nexus 5X General] Zurginator:
Things I noticed:
[Nexus 5X General] samarth1:
The 4 contact points you see towards the mid right side is the microSIM card slot. That is the slot where you take a paper clip and poke the little hole to insert the SIM card.
[Nexus 5X General] Drzfr3shboialex:
Not true. The nexus one and these nexus proved what you said wrong. You said nexus phones in general, not some or any specific. The only eh was the nexus s, all others were bleeding high end as well as the upcoming one.
[Nexus 5X General] funkyblue04:
No it will not be. Crap battery and limited space.

I have 2100mha now. I want a phone that can handle lots of high usage and last a whole day. Right now I have to swap a battery during the day. No longer possible. Plus I want a space upgrade. Also no LTE. Hardly best in class.
[Nexus 5X General] StrizzMatik:
So get an Optimus G. Bam, same phone with all the stuff you want. But have fun with that 4.0 LG skin...

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 5X General] raze599:
I would have thought the microSIM slot would be that shiny thing he labelled "Dafuq is this" ;) It looks the same shape as a SIM card and it may use a tray method to put the card in like on iPhones. But you're probably right because I'm just guessing by shape xD
[Nexus 5X General] samarth1:
Have you time travelled to Oct 29 and know for sure that it doesn't support LTE, or have a battery that lasts the whole day? Please read the Optimus G reviews, they've all mentioned that the battery will comfortably last you the entire day. On Android 4.0.4. On top of LG's proprietary UI. What difference does it make if the battery is removable or non-removable if it's lasting you the entire day? As for your request for a space upgrade, again, nothing has been confirmed so far. If the the Nexus 4 does indeed come out with 8/16gb onboard, I will accept that as the proper cost-cutting measures needed for the $399/449 price point. Or would you rather sacrifice the processor, RAM, or screen quality to keep costs down?
[Nexus 5X General] StrizzMatik:
Some solid points, but don't kid yourself with Google, it's just as shady, unethical and profit-driven as Apple/Samsung.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 5X General] Madarox:
Don't know about you but I definitely prefer it to have 2 less cores(a dual-core snapdragon S4 cpu would have been enough) and a less gig of RAM(which is pretty much useless anyways) if it will have an sd card slot.That screen is overrated too,AMOLED screens still got some advantages like the deep black levels and vivid colors.And for the people who use magnifying glasses when they use their phones,HD super AMOLED screens no longer have to be pentile since the note 2 uses RGB matrix.
[Nexus 5X General] samarth1:
People are going to pay for high quality music if they truly care about audio quality to the extent that you're describing. Most people certainly aren't audiophiles, and as such, do not know, hear, or care about the difference in sound quality from a 128kbps MP3 to a lossless FLAC, or a Beats by Dr.Dre to a Sennheiser HD800. They either settle for a compromise because it fits their budget, or simply don't see the value in spending that much on music they can't hear, or don't care as deeply about. As I have mentioned previously, would you rather that Google skimp on the processor, RAM, and screen quality to cut costs down to an exciting $399/449, or cut the onboard storage to 8/16GB seeing the current trend of streaming files online. And i'm not going to sit here and deny that companies like Google and Apple have a big hand as to the reason why people stream everything nowadays, because it serves their businesses well and makes its investors happy (as a business is expected to do, much less ones as big as them). People are going to choose what they deem to be a meaningful compromise in the budget that they have. I don't know about you, but if I was given an option to have the exact same specs as the Optimus G, without the carrier molestation, slow updates, and with 8/16gb instead of 32gb, all for a price point of $399/449, I would throw them 5 Benjamins and ask them to keep the change as a show of respect.
[Nexus 5X General] yousef8824:
Me too
[Nexus 5X General] samarth1:
We can agree that android doesn't need 4 cores and 2GB of RAM to make it run smooth. The Galaxy Nexus is testament to that. But confusing the lack of an SD card slot for cost cutting measures is a mistake on your part. It would probably cost them next to nothing to include it in the Nexus 4. But they're not going to, specifically because they want to keep the OS under 1 nice partition. And they've publicly said so since 2010, so it's pretty futile to expect them to include it in the Nexus 4 when they could have included it in the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus, but chose not to. As far as the argument for AMOLED vs LCD goes, both have valid advantages and disadvantages. I speak from personal experience and can say that I have terrible screen burn-in on my Galaxy Nexus, and hate the miscalibrated whites and greys, not to mention the terrible viewing angles, where everything distorts to a blue puddle as you turn the screen off-axis. And the reviews for the Optimus G have all shown the screen to be superlative when it comes to brightness, color reproduction, saturation, and viewing angles. Are the black levels not as deep as AMOLED? Yes. Am I willing to sacrifice inky blacks to have a proper RGB matrix, and the aforementioned attributes? You bet.
[Nexus 5X General] ctfrommn:
Hey, what ever happened to our illustrious thread host and his prototype? Seems to have dropped off the face of the earth.

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Further testament to why I love Nexus's. Tell me another 2-3 year old phone that is capable of running the newest version of Android as well. My N1 one still is relevant because of this and the awesome developers here.
[Nexus 5X General] Nebucatnetzer:
Good enough for listening MP3s and streaming services yes.

Because it's not necessary smartphones are designed to be portable.

I don't need studio quality sound on the go for that reason I have my studio monitors in my quiet rooms at home.

Sure it would be nice if people would care a bit more in general I'm sometimes a bit shocked about the quality and equipment people are using.

But hey they are happy with it.

And there are still options for people who like high end devices.

Maybe not entirely in the form they like but manufacturers have to make a compromise somewhere.

They are right IMO but it's your money.

You're getting a bit lost here.

Of course not but the Nexus won't be that phone and that was clear from the beginning.

Before, you have been complaining about the fragmentation but you would buy the S3 which has Touchwiz the heaviest and bloatest Skin of all?

Welcome to the capitalistic system. I'm not really a fan of it but that's how it works.

And I wouldn't mind at all if Google releases a 32gb version of the Nexus7 because I already have another tablet which fits better to my needs.

And I use like 3 to 8 GB on my GNEX maximum. So the 16GB are good enough for me.
[Nexus 5X General] funkyblue04:
Where are the reviews that say the Optimus G has decent all day high usage battery life? I've only seen reviews that say it is crap.

Most just quote LGs test.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...finally-entered-the-big-leagues/#battery-life
[Nexus 5X General] samarth1:
Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/19/lg-optimus-g-review-a-quad-core-powerhouse-with-nexus-aspiratio/

Phone Arena: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-Optimus-G-AT-T---Sprint-Review_id3154#1-LG-Optimus-G-Sprint

The Verge: http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/15/3506326/lg-optimus-g-review-att-sprint

Droid Life: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/10/15/lg-optimus-g-review-att/

Android Central: http://www.androidcentral.com/att-lg-optimus-g-review

SlashGear: http://www.slashgear.com/att-lg-optimus-g-review-16252010/

PCMag: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411011,00.asp

CNET Sprint: http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/lg-optimus-g-sprint/4505-6452_7-35427825.html

CNET AT&T: http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/lg-optimus-g-at/4505-6452_7-35477689.html

Please don't trust CNET word for word, as they have a notorious history of prematurely releasing figures without proper and lengthy testing, not to mention veering more towards subjectivity than others.
[Nexus 5X General] zymo:
It seems like the 8GB Nexus 7 will be discontinued and replaced by the 16GB Nexus 7.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...-being-discontinued-16gb-price-drop-imminent/

What I don't get is, that Google is now offering a 32GB wifi only tablet which will be used most of the time at home or somewhere else where you have wifi connection and can stream content to your tablet, but a smartphone only gets 8/16GB (max.)? Isn't this kinda weird?
[Nexus 5X General] @rbiter:
I know. I try to believe that there are a few corporations that aren't about green and really are trying to contribute positively to society, but Google is losing that real quick. What really is the point of a nice sports car with a 2 gallon tank? I am not being analogous with the battery but the storage. I want to be able to drive, see, experience and carry my experiences with me. The cloud is still definitely useful with more internal storage. Limiting the storage is just putting a ball and chain on your leg and throwing away the key. And many people are getting used to and liking it. Cloud makes you less mobile or cough up more needless profit for some fat cat.

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[Nexus 5X General] funkyblue04:
None of the reviews scream awesome battery life. I have a 2100mha battery now and no chance of getting all day usage. We will see I guess. Just make it 32gb.
[Nexus 5X General] ctfrommn:
Im guessing LTE is the reason for that. I get all day battery on my crappy 3yo 1400ma battery. Another reason you can bet LTE will NOT be made available on this phone.

Plus, the S4 pro is way more efficient then the old TI OMAP in the GN. I would guess that combo will deliver pretty substantial battery life.
[Nexus 5X General] heat361:
Yeah I read that too and I'm mad because I bought the 8gb sure I love the device and all but I could always use the extra storage.
[Nexus 5X General] Madarox:
It does cost them,after all the reason why google don't put sd card slots in their devices is to push their cloud services.If less people used these services,they will lose money.

Btw,for a person on prepaid like me it's pretty hard to count on cloud services for storage.I only use 3G when I need to,I don't have a data plan.It will cost me much more money to use cloud services full-time than to buy a 32GB sd card(which I already have).
[Nexus 5X General] gagdude:
This LG Nexus will have the fastest CPU available (S4 pro quad core), the most RAM available (equal to galaxy s3 and other super phones), a 720p display (equals S3 and HOX and Optimus G), a 4.7 inch screen (around the area of other super phones), has the largest battery besides phablets and the RAZR Maxx/ HD Maxx. So this is actuall going to be one of those nexii with high end specs like the Nexus one. Dude the nexus one was a super phone, the next best phone when it was released was the Droid, and the N1 had double the RAM and nearly double CPU speed, as well as snapdragon gen 1 vs a TI OMAP. I don't know what you mean by "nexus devices are not about hardware, they are about software" because if I wanted software I would get a touchwiz 5 phone, the new TW adds so many practical features and nexus is barebones.

In addition, the S3 and S2 have the most development, not the nexii

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Common misconception

http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card
[Nexus 5X General] funkyblue04:
Will NOT be the best phone. Battery will be good but not GREAT. I cannot last a day with high usage and 2100mha already. I need to swap batteries.

All those specs are great, but the phone will be let down by battery and space. Google hates space. There has not been a single rumour of a 32gb phone. Google will screw us once again.

Also the Nexus never needed much development. All drivers/code are released and CM10 works 100%. CM10 will never be perfect on the SGSIII because of the last of drivers/code.
[Nexus 5X General] Madarox:
This doesn't make sense,nothing would stop them from putting sd card slots in their devices and give the users the option whether to use them or not.Also at 1st there was supposed to be a GSM 32GB version of the galaxy nexus but then they cancelled it,what do you think the reason is ?
[Nexus 5X General] gagdude:
I didn't say it was the best phone, someone said Nexus is not about the specs and I was laying out the specs for him.

Thanks for reading the article.

" it allows the device to use ext file systems instead of a mix of ext and FAT. This is faster and safer -- both for the data on the device and the way it's handled, and access to our own personal data. A journalized file system means fewer file errors, and ext preserves file system permissions so random code can't find your pictures or documents folder.

Another benefit is that the host machine (when your device is connected to a computer) can't muck things up and molest the file system, as it doesn't have block-level access to the files. Instead, a proxy FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) file system is used to mount a psuedo-SD card folder so that your computer can read and write to it via MTP. This means you won't get errors from incorrectly unmounting your phone, and the device still has access to all the data even while plugged into a PC.

Does Google want you to use Google Play and its cloud services? Of course it does. But there is no secret evil cabal in Mountain View that held back the SD card slot to force it on you. In fact, you're still free to use other cloud solutions like Amazon, Dropbox, or even a shared drive on your desktop PC. Nobody has to like the fact that Nexus devices ship with no SD card slot, but let's stop looking for conspiracies when we already know the answer."
[Nexus 5X General] Zurginator:
Excitement + being bored + photoshop = this.
[Nexus 5X General] Madarox:
I did read the article but I think I misunderstood it.I thought that if there's no sd card inserted in the slot,the phone can use ext only without FAT32.I still think it's not that big of an advantage.I'm ok with things being a bit slower and less safe(even that I have no idea how is this supposed to be safer) if I can put a lot of songs,HD videos,HD games etc on my phone without being capped.
[Nexus 5X General] funkyblue04:
Then why did it cancel the 32gb GSM WORLDWIDE version? Limiting space to force the cloud.

I HATE MTP. It is SLOW AS ALL HELL and crashes, plus half the time it dies when copying stuff.

I miss being able to mount my device as a USB Drive.
[Nexus 5X General] hurte1:
All the people that say: " the phone needs better battery", the phone needs more gigs of storage", the phone needs sn sd cart" THEN THE NEXUS IS NO F*CKING PHONE FOR YOU SO GO AND BUY A F*CKING OTHER PHONE.
[Nexus 5X General] @rbiter:
Its not much of a smartphone it there isn't storage to help make it smart. You could've cussed us out without the caps dweeb. Go get some brain cells.

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[Nexus 5X General] gagdude:
I'm opposed to losing the SD card too, but that's googles choice.

You better read the article. Its not limiting space to use the cloud. I hate the cloud. But I'm not going to blame Google for this. Samsung makes the damn phone, OK?

Instead of whining, how about you just buy a phone for you

Kudos for understanding and not being a 10 year old kid
[Nexus 5X General] funkyblue04:
It is Google's fault though. They release the Nexus. They cancelled the 32gb version. I want stock Android and a high specced phone.

The LG Nexus looks good. I'll probably get one. I do not really care about the SD Slot as long as there is SPACE. Battery concerns me. Wish Android was as good at battery management.

I'd have already grabbed a GS3 but due to the Exynos chip issue it will never be 100% with CM.

I just hope Google puts 32gb in the the specs. We can have a high end Nexus that will be GREAT for everyone and really show what a decent stock phone is.

I love my Galaxy Nexus and want the ride to continue. Also hanging out for the 32gb Nexus 7 as well :D
[Nexus 5X General] jworkcoo:
Epic 4g gets CM10 nightly's :) Turned 2 years old in August:)
[Nexus 5X General] gagdude:
dude, we have the EXACT same views. But still, they are not trying to force the cloud. The article? Makes no difference to me. I don't care about security or faster transfers or whatever. I still believe Google that they are not lying to make them seem innocent.

See, I don't even have a data plan to save a load of money. But what if I'm out on the road and just wanna listen to my music? Then I DEPEND on internal storage. (Or an FM radio which is sadly becoming a thing of the past). I'm also jumping for the LG nexus despite this and non removable battery
[Nexus 5X General] @rbiter:
Yep. And to depend on internal storage you gotta sacrifice a nexus experience for some overlay with broken framework and bs OEM/carrier software or crappy bugs/firmware that may not get fixed because of lack of documentation or broken framework. Android is frustrating because there are so many options which is a plus but you gotta put up with some bs which makes the potential positive a worse choice than it should be. And then Google, carriers and/or the OEM's still want you to buy lock stock and barrel that you are getting the best deal in the whole world. Funny, because apple has or doesn't have this problem (depends on how you look at it) because you don't have a choice. You get one phone a year and it will be revolutionary because our revolutionary marketing tells you it is. Lol. With android, you're damned if you nexus and damned if you don't nexus.

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[Nexus 5X General] funkyblue04:
Maybe Google will surprise us with the next Optimus?

If only a major manufacturer would release "stock" as their skin.
[Nexus 5X General] gagdude:
FTFY, lol you had optimus.
[Nexus 5X General] TechKidTarek:
that is awesome you should tweet it to some googlers or upload to picasa or deviantart or upload to g+ and tag some googlers

if you decide to tweet it. can you send me the pic @tarekeleter
[Nexus 5X General] -A-P-M-:
This is first nexus with top specs since Nexus One, and I like that. I rather have a little less storage and everything else high end, so 16gb will be enough - I wont have 20 games installed at a same time, if I play only one or two. I cant wait to get it.
[Nexus 5X General] brar.arsh:
I am seeing many S3 users wanting to upgrade to nexus..

Bad sign for Samsung.. But am loving it..

Sent from Galaxy S3 running Jelly Bean
[Nexus 5X General] FrankyDoodle:
Not so bad, only those people on XDA want a nexus to replace their S3 and besides Samsung already sold the phone.
[Nexus 5X General] -A-P-M-:
I dont like TouchWiz a lot, also it isnt smooth as it should be. Since I flashed CM10 it is much faster and smoother, also AOSP looks much better IMO. Samsung still didnt oficially update SGS3 (international, unbranded) in my county (and many others) to JB. Also those JB builds which were released in some countries still got bugs and arent smooth as for example CM10. There is alredy upgrated SGS3 with 2 gb RAM and LTE, so our SGS3 is already dated after a few months. Also some versions will get Multiview feature and sone dont. So there are to many differences. Also devs like Codeworkx are leaving SGS3 and Exynos devices because of closed sources, drivers.

On othet side, Nexus is one phone per year, with latest and clean software and is open source with all drivers available, so devs can build great roms in short time. Also new Nexus got high end specs (even better than SGS3) and looks premium (less cheap plastic, gorilla glass on back etc.). So I cant wait to get next Nexus :)
[Nexus 5X General] Madarox:
Not really,most people here at xda want to run cm10/stock jb without any bugs and the exynos chip is not helping much with this but would the average consumer care ? Nope.A lot of people don't even know they can change the launcher lol.