yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
I won't speak for marksedge but here is my take.

It does come with Agat's recovery. I chose it because I have been using his work for a long time now and have never had any stability or other performance problems with them. I don't really care that much about battery life because I always keep 3 batteries with me but I would say his kernel is as good as any other kernel on battery. I don't even tweak the settings at all and get a full day of decent use out of it. And by full day I mean the 16ish hours of the day that I am awake and have the phone on.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] marksedge:
I ran about 13 hours on moderate use ...pretty swell i heard some speculation about the 4g speeds being different ..thats the only hick up i would say but for the most part smooth sailling ..im pretty satisfied
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pbassjunk:
Don't flash the odex zip from the AOSP 4.1 alpha 6 recovery. Just hard bricked.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
So the phone won't boot at all?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] slick_rick:
Flashed deodexed data wipe and got black screen after gs2 boot screen. Seems as if the kernel is not getting replaced by agats during flash. When I booted back into recovery, it was still AOSP CWM6 recovery and not agats recovery.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
This does not include a kernel. You have to flash whichever kernel you want to use.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] slick_rick:
Ahh OK my mistake then :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] g.richardson68:
odd little hiccup

Downloaded the rooted_deodexed_FI27_rom_data_wipe.tar through goo.im, seemed to DL fine but wouldn't transfer to phone. Tried twice and both times it failed (once when it was damn near finished) and it said file can no longer be found and the phone shuts down. Had to pull battery. :confused:

I just DL'd the same file through android file host and it transferred to SD card just fine.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
Easiest easy to download and install is from the phone, preferably connected to wifi. It is a "smart phone"

I've never had an issue downloading in the computer then transferring, but there are just too many variables... Internet connection, browser, USB cable, SD card, etc.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] g.richardson68:
Worked. Thanks given.

Yeah, I could've DL'd right to the phone but seems to DL on PC faster. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong or just a little goofy. (Could be the phone's smarter than me:o) Either way, the android file host download went off without a hitch. Just Mobile Odined the tar and agat recovery and worked like a charm. My first Mobile Odin experience was definitely a pleasant one.

So, a thanks to the OP and a thanks to you, sir, for the input.

Edit: Your little IP, ISP and OS tag thing is creepy. lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
That's why I have it lol. You can get one from the danasoft page.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rovar:
Only creepy for noobs or computer challenged people.

Tappin' Typin'
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] g.richardson68:
:rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rsngfrce:
Flashed odexed no data tar and Agat 6.2 kernel with Mobile Odin, modem didn't update. Mobile Odin doesn't update the modem, right? I don't see that mentioned in the OP?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
Mobile Odin doesn't update the modem or bootloader files.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
I posted a workaround for adding the contacts back into the dialer for deodexed FI27 here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1938133

Can someone try it out please? I have a user reporting that they cannot get it to work without FC. Tnx - TD

Edit: I am also using the same fix for FI25 without issue.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tnkclark:
After installing these mods, I did get the icon for contacts back on the top of the dialer screen. However, I got "Unfortunately, Contacts Has Stopped" for both Contacts and Favorites when trying to run from the Dialer. Both run OK when not in the Dialer.

The menu button at the bottom of the dialer screen has Contacts as the first choice, however.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
Are you certain you are running a deodexed release of fi27?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cd7:
Sorry but I had the same problem - contact icon is there but app freezes when any key is pressed. I had to use your stock zip to return. I am on crawj FI27 deodexed. On the other hand your ext. toggles and battery mods work great....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
No problem, I've yanked the files. I'll see what I can find out.

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Ok dialer fix reposted in themes/apps please give it a try again and let me know how it goes. Tnx
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cd7:
Works very nicely! Thank you, thank you...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tnkclark:
I checked again. FI27 is deodexed with no data clear. Flashed the .zip with CWM from FI03. Here is the menu opened in my dialer - note the first item.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
Ok gotcha. I forget that submenu was there.

I posted an updated version. Have you tried that one yet?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdsbj6508:
Is there anyway to add TW5 to this ROM?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdsbj6508:
I'm getting random reboots anyone else?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Stratus41298:
I'm not sure what i'm doing wrong here...

I'm no stranger to the rooting process. I followed the instructions for the Deodexed no wipe version exactly but am stuck at the boot screen. I did a factory wipe anyways just to see if that was the problem but nothing. The package installs without error as well. The phone is coming from Blazer's old ICS themed GB ROM. Is there another step I should have done to get to ICS?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
This rom does not come with an ICS kernel. You have to flash an ICS kernel first.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
What? I thought this came with the stock FI27 kernel?

You should just need a safe CWM, which all Gingerbread kernels are. Then reboot to recovery, wipe data factory reset, install from SD card, select the zip, select yes, then reboot.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
Nope, the one I d/led by Crawj deodexed version has no kernel. He states this somewhere in the thread.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Stratus41298:
That's what the OP said. I dunno. Guess i'll try a different ROM. Thanks anyways.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
Yeah you're right... No kernel included.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
There is a zip in apps that you can use to install it. I haven't tried it myself though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
Not one here.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
This is what the op says. "These Do Not include a kernel."

Edit: I just saw where the problem was. Right after that it said the tars include the kernel. I must have copied that from an old post and missed it. I apologize for the mixup. Op has been fixed. The reason I don't include a kernel is because most people already run with their favorite recovery. So instead of forcing a specific kernel on people I let them choose what they want to flash. That is why I include the link to rwilco's fabulous kernel repository. I will update the Op with a warning about coming from something other than tw.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
Duplicate post.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
Defending the newbies.

In their defense, the OP could be a little intimidating and difficult to understand if you're just getting started or are not familiar with the differences between GB and ICS to begin with. So we're going to see a certain amount of this anyway. And at least it's not an everyday question that happens over and over (and over). ;)

Going to go post in the FI27 discussion thread now. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cd7:
None here either. Running smooth all around. Thanks again for your work!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
Well in this case it was my mistake. I copied an old post that said the tar included the kernel. I cleaned up the Op and also put a note to let people know about coming from Roms that aren't ICS. Thanks for the suggestion.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
No problem. What I really meant is that for new users, it's really hard for us old timers to keep things simple so comprehension just isn't there because they may not understand to begin with.

So it may read 'flash ICS kernel or you will boot loop your phone'

But the newbie reads 'flash wah wah wah wah'

(Charlie Brown listening to adult speak) LMAO
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdsbj6508:
Yeah I tried it but no luck:(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mship:
There is good Its running as smooth as butter. I havent had one issue with this. I have tried a few different roms since Calk gingerbread and everyone of the roms have had something that has driven me crazy. Also because of the kernal issue all of the custom roms seem to have a problem with 4g and 3g speeds. I have been running this for that past four days now and decided that it was a good time to make a nandriod since it was running so good. SO I decided to put one of the ICS kernels (Agat's) with a recovery, but the three that I tried gave me horrible 3g and 4g speeds. I am now back on the stock kernel because I need my 4g. I am lucy enough to be in an area where I have good 4g coverage so I will take advantage. But other that the kernel issue, which is not an issue on stock, this rom is great.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
Just for general info on the ICS kernels:

ALL FI series stock kernels seem to have the 4G cap removed. This includes stock repacked.

ALL 3 custom kernels by Sleshepic, Rujelus22 (Kuban Kernel), and Agat63 have a 4G cap for some reason. Agat is currently working to find out why on his btw. ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sam Sung:
HI,

Background:

I don't really flash roms. Since I have limited time, I generally root and install cwm for nandroid backups.

I've been running GB 2.36 for a while (rooted w/sfhub autopkg and agat recovery). Basically stock, rooted with cwm (swm also from sfhub's pkg). I decided to try out (what I thought was the latest) one-click FF13. After installing, I was offered FI27 OTA, which I took, losing root. Since I lost root, I odined Stock_Rooted_Odexed_FI27_Rom.tar.

All seems well, and I am rooted, but am a bit confused about recovery options. Apologies for the (likely) elementary question. If I'm given the right direction once, that's generally all it takes:

Before I restore my Titanium backups, I'd like to create a Nandroid, but am not sure what recovery or cwm to use. Could someone clarify things?

Also, once the recovery situation is taken care of, will I be able to safely nandroid back to and from previous EL29 Nandroids?

Thanks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
I use either Agat's FI27 repack or source kernel. Repack is more like stock. Source built adds overclocking and other options. I have restored back and forth many times.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rsngfrce:
Just to add to that, if you prefer to stay close to stock and don't care about the mods, it is best to use the repack, because the source version (which I personally use) has 4G speed issues (hopefully to be resolved, but Agat got his GSIII friday... :()
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cd7:
Personally, I've used repack and source from Agat - great kernels with recovery, available in most release versions with nice tweaks - especially battery life. However, recently I'm giving the stock FI27 a chance - mostly due to 4G speed and GPS consistency. I do flash stock el26 w/cwm to nandroid and flash mods like TDs Ext. Toggles and battery mods. Then I just flash FI27 kernel.

Bottom line, there's always a trade off: battery life, 4G speed, etc. But, overall the developers do such fantastic job; especially with what they have and I for one am greatful for the options they provide....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] djelmonstruo:
Can someone post a screenshot of the 3G speed for NYC area (Bronx, Manhattan) this is my very poor speed :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sam Sung:
Thanks to crawrj, rsngfrce and cd7 for your responses and thanks for the links, rsngfrce). Looks like Agats repack is the all-round recommendation.

Since posting, I also found this method here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyEvJ92to64

which refers to here:

http://sxtp-forum.com/showthread.ph...27-Modem-Kernel-ROM-Root-Stock)&p=491#post491

Another discovery is that FI27. like FF18 and FH13 have presented similar issues (here, anyway...on 2 different E4GTs) in that it seems to constantly drop the wifi connection, requiring turning wifi off and back on. This, even though the setting 'keep wifi on during sleep' is set to 'always'..I also hate the latest Gmail client.

I guess I could try reinstalling via above and also trying the agat repack to see if the wifi issue is corrected. If not, I may end up back at EL29, enduring the occasional update nag. Problem is, my time is limited at the moment, so I may wind up with EL29 until the dust settles anyway.

Thank you for your help. Any ideas on the wifi issue appreciated, and thanks to all who put so much time into these forums and the developement of the roms, etc. Very much appreciated!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rsngfrce:
Busybox version 1.20?

EDIT: Found my issue is caused by the kernel.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wings9130:
I'm using build "re-calked e4gt 0.2.1.Fl25. It is stock rooted and my phone runs slow. It is just slow. Every time i try an ICS stock rooted rom it does this. Under kernel version it shows 3.0.41 AGAT_Kernel #v0.5.4. Is this a problem with the kernel? I want my phone to be fast the way I had it on GB stock rooted. Can someone advise me on what to do. Do I need to try a different rom or kernel or both? Help would be greatly appreciated.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rsngfrce:
Re-calked is not stock. If you have issues with that rom, you should probably ask them in the thread for that rom.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wings9130:
Oh ok. I'm looking for a good stock rooted rom that runs nice and snappy like the stock phone does. Does this rom run that way in peoples experience? Just so sick of flashing different roms with bad luck so I thought i'd ask. Also the kernels i see on here don't have cwm in them. Does it have any recovery built in and do i need to flash one of these?

http://rwilco12.androidfilehost.com/?dir=Kernels/Stock (TW) Kernels/ICS/ZIP
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rsngfrce:
Personally, I have always run stock roms. This thread has the newest official release (FI27) and is what I am using, working good for me. Some people seem to prefer prior unofficial release FI03, some don't seem to like any of the ICS releases.

As far as kernel's... The rom in this thread does not include a kernel, so you need to install one (or I assume it will keep whatever you currently have). The page you linked to features stock kernel's which do not have CWM. You probably want something from http://rwilco12.androidfilehost.com/?dir=Kernels/Recovery Kernels/ICS, which are kernel's with recovery. Agat recovery (repack or source built) are popular kernels. The source built version has more features/mods but currently has 4G speed issues, the repack is closer to stock and doesn't have the 4G issues. Personally, I use the source built version. There are threads about both versions elsewhere here.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tungsten c:
Deodexed vs Odexed

What is the difference/advantage of using Deodexed or Odexed if any? How can I find out if the one loaded in my phone Deodexed or Odexed?

thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rlanza1054:
Wow, I just got on to ask the exact same question.

Trying to understand the differences between ODEXED and DEODEXED?

I know that NODATA actually means it keeps your data and apps and settings before the upgrade, it is a strange term for Newbies.

Thanks to those that answer the question for both me and Tungsten.

Rob
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
An odexed system runs faster and smoother because the system files are split into 2 sections which allows for faster and more efficient reading and loading of the data into and out of memory. The system is running as efficient as possible.

However, running an odexed system does not allow for customizations like themes and makes changing the look and feel of the system more difficult.

Most users will run deodexed since it allows for adding custom written changes beyond just adding and removing applications and changing built-in system changes.

I'm not sure if there is an easier way to tell if the system is odexed but you can tell if you're odexed by using a root explorer app and navigating to /system/app. If every file is there twice but one has an .odex extension, then the system is odexed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
Great thread with really good information. I said it before and I'll say it again... it's awesome to have you working on the E4GT again, Crawrj. Thank you muchly
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tungsten c:
tether and pone call ....

Guys I don,t know about you but after using one of the files provided I can actually tether and talk on the phone at the same time...before when a call came thru my tether will drop.

Awesome

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Can we go back and forth.. say use the deodexed non data file first for a while and then applied the odexed non data file later?

When you say as efficiently as possible it does also mean less battery usage?

When it comes from stock (Samsung) is it odexed or deodexed?

thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
Thank you. I really appreciate that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
Yes you can go back and forth as much as you want. Just remember that if you make any modifications and you switch you lose those. For example if you install a theme and switch to Odex you lose the theme. If you install the Hotspot mod on Odex and switch to Deodex you lose it. The best thing to do is install one and right before you switch to the other do a nandroid backup. And each time you want to switch you backup your current setup and restore the other version.

I have not done any battery statistics but I would say there is no difference in battery. If there is a difference I am sure it is negligible.

Stock is Odexed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jmejiaa:
Thanks. been ignoring the "Update now" message all day.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
What update now? You shouldn't be getting that. Are you on FI25 or FI27?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
Flashed the deodexed data wipe zip on top of Agat's source kernel. Added TDunham's FI25 dialer mod (works great on FI27), Timmetal's FI27 white digital battery mod, and a bunch of Rujelus22's inverted apps. All good here and I'm a happy camper. Only thing I miss is the HD You Tube app I had on FF18 but can't get it to work on this version. No biggie

Edit: I also added TDunham's volume rocker camera mod and flashed the FI27 modem zip found in RWilco's modem depository. Best modem I've tried so far for my location
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tungsten c:
What will be the best way to get CWM if I am using the file for this post?

Filename: Stock_Rooted_Odexed_FI27_Rom.tar

MD5sum: a0e563b4048e0bc5a6f04d424407d447

Thanks

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Does anyone noticed that the stock camera does not work properly?

Not a big deal since there are many camera apps out there just an observation.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
You will want to Odin or Mobile Odin a kernel that has recovery. I use Agat's FI27.

I have not noticed any problems with the camera. What is happening?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tungsten c:
My camera just lingers (stock camera) it lingers like open I can see the picture llike if I was going to take a picture but the buttons dont work so I can never make the picture and it makes like a grinding sound (vibration). Some time It will go away most times I have to reboot. Its doing this in two different samsung epic 4g touch, I did the same procedure in both and both have the same problem. It only happens in the stock camera app.

Any other camera works fine so far.

hope this helps.

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Do you jave a quick link to the Agat's FI27.

thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JonSCSL:
I would try to reflash the FI27 zip if you haven't tried it yet. It just might be a bad or corrupt flash.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tungsten c:
i have the same problem in two different phones I flashed both the same day one after the other. I an not to worry about it since I use a camera app and works just fine.

I really miss my CWM recovery anyone has the link to make sure i get the correct one?

thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rsngfrce:
What is "the correct one"? If you want to stay close to stock, best option is probably Agat FI27 repack.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tungsten c:
thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
I just tested the stock camera on my phone and had no issues. I am running the Odexed version. Which file did you install?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tungsten c:
Filename: Stock_Rooted_Odexed_FI27_Rom.tar

MD5sum: a0e563b4048e0bc5a6f04d424407d447

I installed the above file onto two epic 4g touch and I have the same issue with both. but I am using camera fv-5 and I have no issues.

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I first did an update over the wifi from sprint so I will have the kernel then I did your file, I figure that way I did not have to worry about kernel. This also happens wioth some after market camera apps, I guess it has to do with the way the access the camera functions. Camera FV-5 is good enough for what I need and works great.

This issue I have in two identical epic 4G touch phones both were upgrade from Sprint first and then rooted, both had been rooted all along with stock rooted option originally and then with the upgrade before this one and now this one.

Hope this helps. I am very happy with your product and the camera issue is not a big deal to me since I can use an aftermarket app.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
Thanks for the info. I did an update keeping all of my data but I used the zip. I will install the tar file later and see how the camera works.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
I'm getting crazy fast Wimax speeds on this Rom with the FI27 modem and Agat's FI27 Stock repack. The trade off is battery life isn't quite as good because you can't tweak the kernel with Ex Tweaks. I recommend the CPU Sleeper app and disabling Sprint's proxies. Here's how

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=17629420
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bmfluitt1984:
If coming from rooted odexed fi27 do I still need to flash a kernel
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
No you are good.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tungsten c:
Crawrj

I did a total wipe and restore the phone one app at a time. My issue with the camera is no longer there.

I guess the moral of the story is to wipe your phone after a flash and restore the stuff or just use a "With Data Wipe" option all the time.

I guess with the different updates something got corrupted and the camera would not work, or maybe an app installed. The funny thing about it is that I have the same issue on two different phones how hard is that to create twice?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
Wow, that sucks. Glad you figured it out though. Unfortunately it is just the luck of the draw. I haven't done a full wipe since I went from Gingerbread to ICS, other than testing of course. I always restore my backup and upgrade to the current version after I am done testing and building.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cephraim:
FK09

Will you have an FK09 version of this soon?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Dalmus:
Has anyone actually gotten the Beats equalizer to do anything? It seems to have no effect on anything on my phone... speaker, Bluetooth audio or headset.

Is there a trick to get it to do something? Or is it only certain things it works with?

I've tried it with the stock player and Mixzing. Both players' internal EQ settings work fine.

Thanks for any tips!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] DrgnRebrn:
Mine works. I can't say if I've done anything specific to make it work, as it just came with the ROM I use.

Samsung Galaxy S3

OdexedBlue ROM

LI3 Stock Kernel

LIF Baseband

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