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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DarkBanHammer:
One could say that about any interface if Google keeps this ui then it will get boring...lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] akira02rex:
You're exactly right.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jayochs:
I actually went through everything to put the stock ota on it last night...so I downgraded back to 4.0.4 and relocked etc...eventually got back to jb on a fresh phone with everything wiped. Seems super smooth so far, so now im just going to reload some apps and see if that smoothness stays.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] diesel2k:
I have two colleagues with S3 and both are dead jealous over the JB smoothness on my Nexus. I am running stock. No Android can compare to the smoothness of this

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] evil_penguin:
Hi5:highfive::highfive:

Same here.

My many friends have S3 and one X.

When ever they see my phone ,they are jeloues .

Believe me , they wanted to exchange their phone with me :cool::cyclops:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fire n mage:
Don't they realize their phones are better hardware wise? i would've traded phones, sold it then get another gnex cheap, profit lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jayochs:
see, the thing is, i'm really prone to noticing any lag on any phone, which really sucks. for example, the way in which the jellybean/ics stock android dropdown comes down isn't fast enough IMO, and i notice that on the S3 and how much faster touchwiz's dropdown works, and in a more perfect 60fps. flipping between home screens on CM10 would lag and get choppy and hang up all the time on my nexus, and i can't understand how, since that launcher is so bare bones and stock. it got as choppy as my rezound on stock sense 3.5, except whereas my rezound was just like, an ugly 30fps, it never got hung up halfway between swtiching screens like my nexus did on CM10 and other roms. so far, on my OTA JB stock rom though, i'm not noticing that, and it's as fast as how an iphone scrolls (dare i say this?! lol)

but yeah, i notice all the little things, so this thread was kinda just created in my frustration last night, but i was just curious if anyone else notices the same things i do. i got the nexus figuring this thing was a fast beast, but i guess i expected too much from a phone the same gen as my rezound lol

but obviously it's faster and less bloated than the rezound..although i still love the rezound because i'm an HTC fan first, and the camera on the nexus is on par with my Env Touch lol...but compared to using the S3, it's so hard to go back to the rezound now, even running aosp
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
You need to run a stock based Rom with Franco kernel OC'd up to around 1500 to not have lag on the Nexus IMO. I have the GSM one but I assume its the same as the CDMA one. CM and AOKP are laggy for me on this device.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phazerorg:
That was probably a good learning experience, but in the future you can avoid all the downgrading and relocking and whatever else it was you did by just flashing the Google stock 4.1.1 images in fastboot: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

Efrant also has a great guide here with lots of information: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1626895
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tgyberg:
Yep, franco at 1500 on BAMF is out of this world smooth. Confirmed! :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] woody296:
I picked up one of these rascals last week, loaded with stock jellybean it seems plenty smooth to me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jayochs:
damn, good call. i'm still 'new' to the nexus; i'm so used to flashing and running all this stuff on HTC phones. i had the nexus toolkit, and they didn't have a factory stock image for the brand new OTA, so i tried to just flash the factory image from a JB build before that, and the nexus tool kit just freaked out and said stuff wasn't in the correct folder after it downloaded it or something, so i said F that. found a guide that said to get the OTA, to flash back to the old 4.0.4 build, then flash recovery, then flash new OTA etc...so i just did that. was pretty simple, wasn't too bad! phone seems A LOT quicker and less laggy now than it did
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dannejanne:
Can't beat stock when it comes to smoothness!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rootyourphones:
The nexus isnt worth the 400 price tag includeing tax I bought one and sold it for 250 . Price has dropped I even sold my two year old iphone 4 for 420 lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] androidkid311:
I'll tell you this now...no gadget can hold its value like an apple product lol. I'm getting my nexus this week,can't wait coming from an s2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phazerorg:
Yeah, you'll find a lot of people around here advise against the toolkit... at least until you really know what you're doing. It's a great time saver, but if you haven't spent the time to understand all the stuff underneath it, it can really screw you over when something goes wrong. Unlike other phones where you sometimes need somebody's toolkit to work some magic, the Nexus toolkit really just automates some steps you can do yourself. If you haven't done those steps yourself at least once, you can find yourself having to learn them at a very inconvenient time :)

Somewhat back to the original topic of your thread - I've run a few ROMs but I'm currently back to stock JB (rooted). I'm finding it's incredibly smooth and does everything I need. I hope it's working out well for you too! One of these days I plan to compile it from source myself, just to see how that compares... if I ever find the time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] infinia:
Yeah thought OP was talking about cm10
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
Its an issue with CM10 and the surfaceflinger.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DarkBanHammer:
Get the new cm 10 nightly this has already been fixed
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] woody296:
Then the person buying the iphone was a fool, I sold 2 32 gb iphone 4 for 275 each over the weekend to pay for 2 i5's and had very few calls. Craigslist has hundreds of them. The galnex is worth about the same money used.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SahilC:
Still not stable. Flash trinity. Trinity ftw.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
It's much better than 4.0 but it still has a ways to go to achieve pleasantly lag free.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] akira02rex:
I think this boils down to the users ability to put up with animation lag. The reality is, is that the processors on both apple products and any android product lag but Apple has managed to always make the animations smooth to give the illusion that it's "fast" and "lag-free". In my person opinion... if you're concerned about a stupid animation not being lag-free then buy an iPhone. If you want huge customization and don't care about pretty animations then Android is your man.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jayochs:
apple's seemingly fast OS is due to animations? figured it was because of how it's coded and puts the UI first if anything.

either way, still running stock JB and just activated the nexus as my phone again because that's how quick and speedy stock JB really is compared to the AOSP stuff i've been running. awesome!

only thing that sucks, lightflow isn't working right at all with the OTA build...worked fine on the leaks we've been using (i ran bamf paradigm for a long time..even worked on CM10) but certain notificatinos just will not light up, grr.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tgyberg:
Yea the Light Flow dev seems to be having a hell of a time getting his app to function properly on JB. Sucks big time!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] z0mghii:
I also noticed stock is more smooth than AOKP and CM10. Is there a stock rom that has toggles included like aokp/cm10? That's the main reason why I don't want to go back to stock.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
You former Rezound owners will remember that it is all Proteks fault :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
It is. iOS put UI elements on highest priority. Webpages stop loading when you start scrolling. I'm not sure if it's the process scheduler, the app threading, or smart offloading to the GPU, but I would like Android to give similar priority to the UI so there isn't a delay between when I press a button/link and when it changes colour.

Jellybean is smooth, but not consistently so. My homescreen will lag whenever Launcher gets purged from main memory (e.g. run a bunch of memory-hog apps, then press Home). After the initial lag from redrawing the homescreens, then it's smooth again.

When someone asks this question "is Android <version> laggy?" I want to answer "yes and no". When it's smooth, it's super smooth. When it's not, it's not.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
Those days.....

-Brought to you by Marino's Galaxy Nexus-
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
There were a couple epic threads in the Rezound forum :)

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kevinchen1102:
u should wait for the official update.jb is much faster then previous android os.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fire n mage:
Lmao, almost as funny as that thread where someone realized Nexus its easiest to root. XD
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragn4rce:
What kind of XDA member uses an iPhone??? Or even knows what XDA is.

And they did say they declared war on lag. Meaning the war is still in movement. Wait till the war is over. ;)

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If I have helped you.... hit that sexy thanks button. ^_^
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
One who will soon become an android user.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] withbloodskies:
I share the OP's woes and actually just flashed what is a stock bone dry ROM for some reason I never thought to have tried. To my eyes it actually cleared up all the lag and stuttering I've had. Weather this from the 4.1.2 update or no "extras" I think I'll stick stock. I like what the devs do but after flashing this stock ROM I don't even want to flash any other ROM because of lag and stutter :what:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
That seems a bit extreme.

I keep hearing people say this. I've yet to find this alleged customization.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AirBoss24K:
I can't say I share the stutter problems much. I get the worst case of the stutters when my phone decides it's time to download updates for my apps. Even then. that's not really a problem. Running CNA 3.6.5 with Franco.Kernel nightly #283.

As a side note, this is my final required post needed for me to go comment in the development section. All I want to do is be able to provide feedback to these awesome devs who give us the opportunity to mix and match. Happy posting! =D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Or disable overlays in developer options and remind themselves just how slow ICS was. It will perform just like ICS when you do that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I'd love to see how you quantify that 300 times faster.

Ignorant comment.

You should have said,

"My iphone 5 is faster hint hint stay away from android."

It would have looked fanboyish, but at least it wouldn't have looked idiotic.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ropaisoft:
Please don't feed the troll.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
But...what if the food was laced with cyanide :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
What a ridiculous topic.

-Brought to you by Marino's Galaxy Nexus-
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] norpan111:
Well.. Your fantasy sets the limits to basically you have no fantasy. Iphone users doesn't need this because the only choice they have is what background they want

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Same here, two weeks ago I sold my S2 and received my maguro yesterday and I think I made a great choice. (Nothing against S2...it's an awesome device, I just got bored with TW.) Maybe autorotation isn't perfectly smooth....but what can I say? I love butter and GNex. I've never used smoother android!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
+1...

if you can't see the customization than that is a personal issue. I have seen so many crazy customized phones and layouts that blew my mind.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
Rooted or not?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] norpan111:
Depends on how costumized you want it.. Without root you can still change lock screen, launcher and individual apps like dialer and sms if stock doesn't suit you. Only there you have tons of possibilities.. Add to that cm10 with theme engine with full of cm10 themes on play store to play around with.. Oh, and millions of widget styles that you can create your own user interface the way you like it. If rooted you can do a LOT of stuff to costumize... Just look what miui have done to android.. And all the "skins" oems puts on it.. There's really millions of styles and functionality of android.. If you still can't see how android is costumizable then I don't know what is...name one os that is more costumizable than android? Don't take me for a fanboy.. I've own a lot of different gadgets and they're all good in their way. But android.. Excels at costumize.. There's really no discussion

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Simer03:
No stutter with rasbean and trinity

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
I don't consider swapping out system apps customization. Just a waste of time.

And widgets are just big icons.

What I would consider customization would be theming and other things of that nature. Stock Android has no theming whatsoever.

This is not a criticism of Android, by the way. Customization is a bad thing.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fire n mage:
Well the theme idea is from t-mobile's theme app which was implemented into CM at #7 i believe? Anyway, it use too be a stock feature for some phones. And launchers have themes so the feature is still there, just not for the entire system itself, only launcher/icons.. Wait, why the hell is that a bad thing?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fire n mage:
Maybe you would find this helpful?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mdb.android.fakeiphone5
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
Your right its not customization, its liberty not something you get with the fruit company.

Widgets are not giant icons you can interact via the widget instead of using the whole app ... icons do not do that. ...

As Fire brought out third party launchers... lockscreens... etc are easily available. Customization a bad thing? You've obviously got the wrong phone bud... go get at 5x4 icon grid...and change the wallpaper.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] norpan111:
Yeah but you forget that android isn't about STOCK Android.. If you want to costumize your Android, go ahead. Doesn't matter what you call it... Theming is a kind of costumization. What do you want to do with your phone? No mobile os today can be customised as much as "stock" android. Where are you going at? I fail to see your point

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Sounds like a lot of people in here are arguing semantics.

If I decide to (I wouldn't) add a fart cannon to my car, I replace the stock exhaust. If

I change my launcher on my phone to something else and remove the original Launcher.

Sounds like customization to me.

If you change it from its original form, you have customized it. It doesn't matter how you did it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
I am amazed at the ability of a former developer (of a Samsung device no less) to continually troll this forum.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kioshi:
I bought a one day used Galaxy Nexus off ebay from someone who specified this phone had little to no reception. I bought it anyway, installed JB radios and run AOKP rom. Mine is smooth as hell, it was only laggy because of stupid UCCW app....maybe you have an app that is draining ram and slowing it down?

I'd try running AOKP rom build 3. Mines fast as I said and I've underclocked it to 720mhz with low voltages..I have Google Now running 24/7 and no lag for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zAlbee:
<snip>

Android is customizable. There is no debate. Last week I downloaded and installed Nova Launcher Prime for 25 cents. It requires no root, it requires no hacking. It lets me customize the **** out of my home screen. I changed my Google search bar back to the ICS theme (instead of JB theme) or I could remove it. I changed the homescreen animation (to revolving door, many others possible), changed the spacing of icons. I could also change the grid to ANY size MxN icons (you could even do 5x4 like the iphone 5 zomg), and the display and animation for the app drawer.

Notification Toggle lets me add toggle switches for wifi/data/BT/rotation/brightness seamlessly to my pulldown menu, and is fully customizable and themeable. I use JB theme, and it fits perfectly.

A number of other apps let you customize the lock screen, with widgets or what not. These apps are all for stock Android, and are found on the Play Store.

Hell, Android itself lets OEMs customize the UI on top of that thanks to being open source.

Now I am annoyed that I replied to MikeyMike's post, because we could have been discussing where lag might still occur in Jellybean and its causes/solutions, but instead here I am arguing the most obvious fact in the world, derailing the thread, all because of that troll post.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Serious_Beans:
My phone stutters here and here but so does every phone...even iPhone 4S and S3. For the most part though the phone is "butter" smooth. The only time it lags is when an app is installing..other times its just slow animations. Also project butter isn't about removing lag its about smoothing out the animations so they aren't as jittery and making the experience more fluid but if the processor locks up doing something its gonna lag whether its an iPhone or an 8 core computer.

Seriously every device out there lags here and there. If you really believe other devices never lag go get another because the hardware of the nexus isn't changing and it won't get much less "laggy" even with software updates.

BTW my opinion might be bias because I am running Franco kernel which definitely helps in terms of speed and battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] N1XM1X:
no lag on my gnex running PA 2.18 with AK 104 kernel.. love it more every day
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Razer(x):
If you've got lag issues you should try SLIM rom, is highly underrated
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
I don't even consider those other heathens Android. ;)

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
Just giving my perfectly honest opinion based on simple observations.

If it makes you feel better to call me names, then so be it.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kindred7:
The only lag I see is when scrolling in this xda app!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ags29:
Not sure if anyone has said this because I did not read through the thread, but just to answer the question in the OP: FLASH THE 4.1.1 STOCK ROM! Lag = Gone.

It has been the biggest surprise to me to find that the stock rom performs better than any other I've tried, but more specifically.. I've been on it about a week now and cannot remember seeing it lag... Ever.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Serious_Beans:
Are you on stock kernel as well?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ags29:
Yup. Oh and the battery life is even better than it was on other roms. Not mentioning any names but I tried pretty much all of the most popular ones and the battery on stock is on par with or better than everything else. Ok I'm done. Just wanted to share my experience.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fire n mage:
No this is how it should be, google puts alot of work into their os, so I would assume my experience using it would be worthwhile. That being said, I agree with your opinion, but I like roms for some of the features they allow me to use with my phone :D

@Serious, i was using lean kernel on stock and experienced no lag, only changed color settings and volume Level
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
Forcing hardware acceleration helps that out. The app starts to act funny if you do that though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SahilC:
My xda is SUPER smooth, lol

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] retskrad:
Anyone who says Jelly Bean is free of all sorts of lags is honestly a liar. An example is animations is still choppy when u release your finger from the screen. Also when you open the App drawer. In every app, the first swipes is choppy like hell then it gets smoother. Why is iOS and WP7 smooth in the apps the first swipe to the last?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zerocool79346:
For the 100000 time. Because they are developed and written COMPLETELY different, Google has amazing answers for this question, and it's really simple to find them, give it a shot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fire n mage:
I think Android has alot more processes taking up ram, so often times, it ends processes to free up ram for another task, so, that's why after you open up the drawer or application once, the second time is much smoother, assuming it's still using ram.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Anyone who claims to speak for everyone else's experiences, usage habits, and apps installed is equally a liar.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
No doubt Jellybean lags at stock, clocked at stock. It runs better with a stock based rom that is overclocked to about 1500. It seems like the newer Android 4.X.X software consumes more resources and the way that Android is written, it renders on a main thread instead of a separate thread. Processes can interfere with the UI. IMO better hardware is needed than is in our phones to run Android 4 and above lag free. Its not bad on our device but I notice it. It's kind of frustrating that Android still has this lag problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
You shouldn't have to over clock to achieve something that Windows Phone 7 has on Nexus-One-Era hardware.

It is certainty frustrating, I'll agree with you there.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
nova doesn't do this on the app drawer
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Then don't use java based anything. Anything that uses java will be slower unless the hardware is beefed up to overcome the performance issues of using a JVM.

Nothing that runs inside a VM will be as fast as something that runs native.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
Then the question is why the heck did they use Java?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Edit: Last comment was mean. My apologies.

Some reasons:

Google bought Android. You don't buy a company for its OS to scrap it. It also takes a much longer time to build from the ground up. In addition, Java is used almost everywhere, and taught equally as much. That brings in new potential developers in droves by familiarity alone. Java can be coded on virtually any OS, and many different IDEs. Android apps can be built on all major platforms, unlike some (*cough* Objective C*cough*). The SDK runs on virtually any OS. I am sure there are more reasons.

Android performance is not.that.bad and hardware is getting less expensive all the time. I mean, it could have been like another Java OS that we all learned to hate. BBOS was (still is?) terrible with performance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
that actually isn't overclocking as it is the chips native clock speed. they underclocked it actually....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] retskrad:
Android will never be truly smooth. It will never have a consistent framerate because android wasnt built with smoothness in mind i guess, they wanted android to be like windows. The "smoothness" introduced in jelly bean is just hacks and nothing more. Google knows about their faulty architecture and is trying to cover it up with fancy names for the hacks like "project butter "
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Please quantify any of your claims.

What hacks were used and how were they implemented? How does Android try to be like Windows? Define faulty architecture. Do you even understand Project Butter?

Android is improving all of the time. If that is not sufficient, then find another device. That is sound advice for anyone, and not a jab. iOS and WP7/7.5/7.8/8 are viable choices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zerocool79346:
I somehow doubt he will ever respond to you. Either that or he's furiously googling to find a basic understanding of your questions.