[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Hey man, thanks for not taking it personally, i was wondering if i was coming across agressively, which i hope im not, as im quite enjoying this discussion saying that, ill finish of with expanding on my points and my logic behind them, which ill agree, can go either way, yours or mine,

" For example - aside from my SGS2, I have a Sony Xperia S. The xperia was meant to be the best phone out (at that time) and no phone was going to rival it. Rubbish. I got it, not because of the aforementioned reasons but because I really like Sony's older devices and not had problems with them, and right away I realised it was a rubbish phone. It had problem after problem and even though those problems were major things, I've still got the phone because after a couple of updates, it's bearable to use. I got the S2 since then and won't be changing phone for ages because it's still one of the best phones out. Yet I still get excited when I see new Xperia devices coming out. That's purely down to loyalty and that's how a hell of a lot of people base their decisions."

Well, i can testify to a few myself included, to a mass exodus of customers moving on to another product due to abysmal support from a manufacturer, that being asus and specifically the asus prime, granted, the prime had pretty bad hardware defects, but thats the possible situation i was refering to with the "your not holding it right" scenario

" This is where it will make the least amount of difference to them. Think about how many people own mobile devices worldwide. It's a phenomenal amount. Now look at the users on XDA. 4.6 million. That number is nothing in comparison. OEMs don't make devices for us XDAers. They also don't target there phones at us. They make and target devices at the general public. The average person in the street won't know anything about rooting, flashing, development or anything that we know about, so they won't know about the Exynos documentation problem and even if they found out, they wouldn't care because it means nothing to them. This is exactly why Samsung doesn't need to worry."

I kinda agree with you here, at least in the short term, but long term, we're not just talking about 4.6m xda users, we're also talking about the users that 4.6m have mentioned a competitors product, if some of them mention it to one, brilliant, if some of them mention it to 5, excelent, 10, oh my......hope you get my point........and then lets expand that, what if one of those users end up mentioning it another ten (keep in mind, theres no limit to the amount of users they mention it too), and then one of those users mention it to another ten and so on and so forth..........also keep in mind that all of these methods are long term methods, and never meant to have imediate results, if samsung was to feel the affects, itll probably be years from now, i just hope samsung are smart enough to realise, that they snuck up on apple with our help, it can happen to them with a competing product, not because we're spitefull, although there'll be a little of that, its because we'll be attracted to the best product that suits our needs, and in a dev comunity, thats unlikely to be a closed system

" Correct, but Samsung already has money and plenty of it. If they cared about each individual sale they made, they'd have released the documentation already. This now isn't about money."

Money thats constantly being spent, in the hopes that a steady profit margin is reached, if not surpassed, but ill give you that, samsung is a big company who sells many products and likely to survive, :D

Anyways, its just my opinion, i have no delusions in thinking what i say will come to pass, just a, what if.......

Nice discussion, its late and im tired, so ill leave the last word to you my friend if your so inclined, gd nite:good:

Edit : excuse my poor grammer