yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III General] :
That's not "all international Samsung phones and tablets".

SGSII and Note I using Exynos dual chipset, but SGSIII and Note II are using Exynos 4412 quad.
[Galaxy S III General] Tenacious:
But all of exynos phones are affected by lack of source it doesn't mater is it dual core or quad core or is it 2012 or 2011 line or older.
[Galaxy S III General] :
The lack of sources are mutual but the chipset is different.
[Galaxy S III General] :
maybe you should try to understand some things before you make some conclusions.
[Galaxy S III General] Jack Barrett:
Perhaps somebody who speaks korean might try to post about it on their official developer forum and ask?

Seems like a korean developer is answering.

http://innovator.samsungmobile.com/...880&parentCategoryId=4&platformId=1&nacode=ko
[Galaxy S III General] nycplayboy78:
Posted On FaceBook and Google+

Posted on Sammy's FaceBook pages and their Google+ page....
[Galaxy S III General] XDA mark:
Did anyone try telling AndroidCentral (.com) about this? Pretty nice and big site.

Pocketnow/ technobuffalo as well.
[Galaxy S III General] :
Tiped them right now. :D
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
You are awesome! :victory:
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
T.....Y....P....E...D........;)
[Galaxy S III General] Maddinuser:
From Samsung Mobile USA:

Hi , thanks for your inquiry! Unfortunately, we do not have any info on this. I will pass this information on for further evaluation. We appreciate your feedback. Thanks!

:good::confused:
[Galaxy S III General] Net.silb:
If we actually want actual source code we have to go here: http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=inquiry
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
I thought you meant 'tipped'??

As in tipped off? Not that it matters of course...

Keep posting people. Viva la revalucion.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Did anyone else get the feeling, they were expecting a "ruckus" at the meeting, even going so far to ask us to not "flame" ........seemed mighty important them..........i guess it WOULD look bad for them, being critized by users at a convention........mm mmmm

Samsung, we need more clarification, man
[Galaxy S III General] Nick14:
the fun thing is that they still think devs are complete idiots !? as they dont think the devs already checked out insignal git because as it still sounds like they are going to release the same repeated source code...
[Galaxy S III General] :
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33092439&postcount=10618

Read this post...
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
best we can do right now, if nothing else, is post links to any additional info that clarifies just what samsung are releasing, do we have any contacts for the guys who were on stage?
[Galaxy S III General] Nick14:
so why are people celebrating ? hahaha as it sounds clear as water that they wont release anything that they dont "have" to
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
Because Sammobiles made it sound like Samsung were releasing the things we asked for.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
We dont have solid info yet, for either side to give a definate answer, give it a day or two
[Galaxy S III General] alojo:
I think this is good.

The flooding made to Samsung bleeding. I think their communicate is just a little of their blood.

You are winning, xda guys

keep up!
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
Sammobile is constantly posting sh*t and misinformation.

I don't believe anything they tweet.
[Galaxy S III General] Nick14:
those sources would fit the ramos tablet better then the S3... as XpLoDWilD post he sums iit pretty well
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/10/21/after-months-of-speculation-exynos-will-go-open-source/

Refering to this

"After months of speculation, Exynos will go open source!!!"
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Sammobile ****ehawks.
[Galaxy S III General] pulser_g2:
SamMobile leap onto bandwagons like they are going out of fashion.

They weren't there at the BBQ AFAIK, and they produce a half-baked article which is so full of technical and grammatical inaccuracies that it may as well be journalism from the Sun...

The sources I'm trusting right now were the ones I know from XDA who were there at the BBQ, asking the poignant questions that mattered. About Exynos. I'm waiting to hear more from follow-up conversation, and hopefully it will get put onto the portal article at http://www.xda-developers.com/android/live-samsung-developers-qa-at-big-android-bbq/
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
+1 thanks for the link
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
My two cents:

1. Sammobile is a bunch of illiterate jump-to-conclusion kids.

2. I don't believe Samsung will provide us with anything of use.
[Galaxy S III General] Nick14:
[Insert inappropriate image here]
[Galaxy S III General] conantroutman:
I find your lack of manners disturbing.
[Galaxy S III General] Stevemeister:
I think Samsung Exynos can only do so much. Exynos sources are just one part of full sources. I think Samsung Korea (main office) needs to provide full sources. But IF Samsung Exynos would provide full documentation and up to date Exynos sources that would be a huge step in the right direction.

I'm not getting my hopes up though, I will believe it if I see it.
[Galaxy S III General] hectorcore:
Now what?

Enviado desde mi GT-I9300 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
Tea?
[Galaxy S III General] hectorcore:
continue in the fight or we surrender

Enviado desde mi GT-I9300 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] DeadSOL:
Earl grey, please! ;)
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Two sugars please
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
+1
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
fine taste :thumbup::D
[Galaxy S III General] Rildiz:
Keep your tea I'm going for the sad-but-wisdom-giving beer and a old scone.

Even entropy512 agrees.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33096323
[Galaxy S III General] mputtr:
I'll be waiting to see actual results before i do the victory cheer...

Samsung has already shown that they can talk alot but they haven't really shown that they have backed up their words.
[Galaxy S III General] f0xy:
Lets just hope Samsung have heard us correctly and release exactly what we need maybe more? :)
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
Damn just woke up and was about to take my phone off eBay... then I continued reading a few more posts and realised that it's just smoke being blown out into the masses....

But I bet the people that are against this tactic (and are trying to stop it) also thought for a sec that Samsung had woken up to the fact that they're about to lose a lot of money with future sales and came to their senses :p

And for the record, I'm only talking about requesting answers from Samsung, not abusing them.

Anyway I read the CM thread and there's still hope. Keep it up guys..

Don't get blinded by the smoke :cool:

I have a feeling a lot of good will come from the BABBQ having the right people there from both sides of the fence.

Btw I'm removing my S3 from eBay.

Ima give it another month or 2 then the bridge will be irreparable.

Samsung can use the data collected from me while there's still a charred piece of 2x4 smouldering.

Don't make me leave you forever Samsung

Edit.... now off to buy me a gixxer 750 or 1000.... yewww :beer:
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
I think alot of us were just frustrated with the generic responses we were getting over these past days, and got lil excited when it looked like samsung were giving us something other then a geniric response, and not only a response, but what looked like everything we asked for, plus that he-man toy figure i asked for when i was 6.......no, im not THAT gratefull :D

But yeah i agree, maybe we should keep going, trying to open a dialogue with samsung, ask if they can release as much info as they can, as quick as they can, tell us what their goal is, and give us an eta, on any of them, which would show us that somethings getting done when a eta comes and goes, because like it or not, due to numerous promises being broken, expect alot of distrust until those who distrust see you keeping your promises, that is if they dont go back to being silent
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
Read http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33096323&postcount=10634
[Galaxy S III General] copycutter:
Get the thou man, trust me you won't regret it! I had a k7 thou for a couple of years and selling it is still one of my saddest days ever. ;)
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
Yeah I was always leaning towards the 1000.

The 750 would of been more than enough for maybe 3-4 months... but after that I'd probably be kicking myself
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Maybe there`s a little hope:

Ups didn`t see the post above^^
[Galaxy S III General] copycutter:
I went from 07 r6 to the gix and it was fine. If anything the r6 was more of a psycho :) the gix is as comfy and friendly as u like provided u don't get too creative with the throttle if you're not prepared.

OT; every time it seems we make positive ground on these Exynos sources, then it's just more "hurry up and wait". Has anyone heard from the devs that have been in direct contact with Samsung about this, like codeworkx?
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Mmmm, the post just before yours
[Galaxy S III General] CallMeVentus:
Your changes in your stand are appalling....

Sent from Ursa's claws.
[Galaxy S III General] copycutter:
Still seems to me that the post contradicts itself. Things are changing. But not really. We have more contacts. But no word from any of them. We know more about the problems inherent with the sources. We have no way of fixing it yet.

No disrespect to Entropy, and I'm thankful for more insight, but I still see no change. Lots of words. No net result. Samsung "might be" more dev friendly".

They should make a "Let's get Exynos sources" roller-coaster. Would be epic. Up, down, up, down. Loop-the-loop.
[Galaxy S III General] Sensamic:
Maybe Samsung has decided as a strategy to not release the documentation, drivers and all that stuff because that way they make it more difficult for the customers who root and install roms to stay updated with the latest android versions.

Its pretty smart actually. Samsung, as any other company, all it cares about it sales. They know that if we get CyanogenMod 11 and 12 then we have less reasons to upgrade to the SGS4 or SGS5. So when they stop updating the SGS3 we are stuck and forced to buy a new phone.

People think Samsung is nice and care about its customers. Get real people. All they care about is your money.
[Galaxy S III General] Ausboy 2011:
I find it funny :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S III General] Jaytronics:
These clowns for some reason or another think that their crap don't stink. And that their hardware is some god send to the population of tech users. When all is said and done it runs the flipping OS'es in very similar fashions. For the life of menu don't understand the stupidity in the heads of the upper management in these companies. I swear, these people would serve the tech industry so much better if they were all packed into an airplane and shoved out from thirty thousand feet onto some remote island in the middle of the ocean. Any one up for the task? Lol! They are all jack asses. I wish there was some way that our community could start it's own SoC company and keep it open and quality. Any one up for that? Makes me wish all tech would just get fried and useless. We all go back to the basics. Live off the land and well, these tech holes die because they wouldn't know the first thing about surviving nature. Any way that is my rant for the day.
[Galaxy S III General] Ensifolk:
Is this any true ? Sammobile just tweeted that exynos will finally go open source...or just another joke ?
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
a face from the past! Hi mate :D. Complicated situation, worth reading back about 5 pages and check the links to various posts to get the full picture :)
[Galaxy S III General] Ensifolk:
I just read it all...and it seems the very soo dump of the s3 is still in me...as well as

Not buying the note 2 ! Hail the nexus again....
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
PR masterstroke if you ask me, if we keep at them they can even turn around and say "we offered to open source the platform and even that was insufficient" and backtrack without losing face. Or we shut up and wait and they can release what they've promised and it may well be incomplete and out of date and if we complain we seem ungrateful, genius pure genius.
[Galaxy S III General] Jaytronics:
Just pure douchebaggery on their part. Whatever, they will get theirs. Lol!

I just flashed the latest ROM five minuets ago and am finally getting thirty hours of battery time! This is sick!!
[Galaxy S III General] ThunderWolf78:
Which rom would that be?

Tapatalked from my GT-I9300 running high on CM10.
[Galaxy S III General] rlorange:
Man the cynicism in here is like oppressive humidity in Jakarta... I think the real reason Samsung is cagy on their sources is pure ego and pride. The software engineers know they will be embarrassed when they release sources and the international community fix the issues they can't.

Hark back to the SGS1 and Samsung's debacle with files system lag and their RFS file system.

Of course they should have ditched RFS in favour of the established and polished and free alternative ext4 and they did from the S2 on... but it took painfully long. Why?

Not because the software devs on Samsungs payroll resisted but because some douche bag higher up who instinctively found open source anything threatening decide to reinvent the wheel and create RFS.

This is not about soulless corporate greed. Its about ego, pride and C***s higher up the corporate hierarchy of Samsung out of touch
[Galaxy S III General] undercover:
That, Sir, is just an assumption, and assumption, as you probably know, is a mother of all **** ups.

Browsing from the app
[Galaxy S III General] :
I agree with you!
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
It's really hard to satisfy people, we should be glad they are opening up a bit.something is better than nothing. Lets see if Sammy can keep up their promise.

If people want everything the very next day then it will never happen.

《swagged from aokp》
[Galaxy S III General] rlorange:
Yes but is also an opinion.

---------- Post added at 07:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:58 PM ----------

Agreed. Cynicism is poison regardless of the factual accuracy behind it... better add a cynical disclaimer. In my opinion :)

---------- Post added at 07:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:00 PM ----------

Actually I like: Assume makes an ass out of you and me...:)
[Galaxy S III General] SiriusCybernetik:
Peace and love...
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Ok, allay my cynism (I prefer the term realism personally). What have we been promised, that according to developers who know these things, that we didn't already have? Has there been any movement implied or otherwise on the documentation required?
[Galaxy S III General] theq86:
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/10/21/after-months-of-speculation-exynos-will-go-open-source/ :laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] RoadXY:
Has been discussed in the last pages.

Please read back a couple of pages before posting (old news in this case).

Thanx.
[Galaxy S III General] Nick14:
Read the last 10 pages then post that link
[Galaxy S III General] :
Browse the previous pages of this thrrad.
[Galaxy S III General] GalaxyGusta:
We should not stop flooding their pages until the release

It might be just to cool us down

And after the release flod it with thanks
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Couldn't disagree more, what more do you want? They have made a public, if slightly vague, undertaking to release some sources. Give them a chance see what they release then spam then back into the dark ages, if you must, if they don't release what you need.
[Galaxy S III General] rlorange:
Nice work OP I confess while I try hard not to be a cynic I certainly wouldn't have had the motivation to push this campaign through... certainly not victory just yet but I think your perspective will be vindicated soon enough... :)
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Calls for clarification
[Galaxy S III General] phunkycow:
This.
[Galaxy S III General] mariosraptor:
Sorry if i am off topic but seems this is paying out. As

http://www.sammobile.com/2012/10/21...nos-will-go-open-source/#.UIRNmGlUJEg.twitter
[Galaxy S III General] ties169:
-.-

Read a few pages back before posting...

Sent from my Galaxy S3 with Tapatalk
[Galaxy S III General] Hybridesque:
The thread needs cleaning again... people getting confused because of sammobile.com
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Haha I`m in :laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] sfjuocekr:
Bit of a default taste sir, get some Darjeeling golden first flush!
[Galaxy S III General] victorator:
Keep spamming samsung pages!
[Galaxy S III General] funkyblue04:
As I Simple user I hope it is everything the developer's need. I'll consider a Samsung if it is. Otherwise I'll stick with Nexus. Interesting that Samsung was not chosen as well.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
To what end exactly?
[Galaxy S III General] CallMeVentus:
I bet they're like:

Sammy: "What do you want?"

People: "We want the Exynos' full documentation!"

Sammy: "And for what exactly?"

People :"..."

Sent from Ursa's claws.
[Galaxy S III General] victorator:
Until we get a fully functional CM10 build.
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
EDITED TO BE NICER. :D

This thread and its actions HAS made progress on this (whether some people like it or not) - that is undeniable.

Until Entropy152 himself says any different I'm sure the 99% here will keep trying and supporting. This is a worthwhile cause!!! :thumbup:

We will all know in a few weeks which way it will go in any case. Here's hoping Samsung follow up properly with they have told him...
[Galaxy S III General] undercover:
Both sides are right to an extent imo.

You have to stop spamming but have to keep them on their toes.

Just keep posting something positive, like "thanks Samsung, so nice of you to release the source" or "Samsung, woohoo, you just secured my loyalty with opening up source".

Idea behind it is to keep reminding that people are still waiting for it, but spamming has stopped. You keep spamming them in a bad way, soon all the news sites will call you fan boys and animals and Samsung will just pull the plug.

Browsing from the app
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
And you think spamming them when they've promised to releases "sources" will achieve that quicker?
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Samsung's made many promises in the past, all of which they haven't kept.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
But you have to give them a chance to deliver, on this one or why bother asking in the first place.
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
Maybe I just want the sources TOO much?!

I am supporting this thread. I have twittered at Samsung. And now I'm hoping and waiting that the dev's get what they need - It would be just great :D

If anyone has felt offended by any of my posts then I apologise to you.
[Galaxy S III General] ThunderWolf78:
I'll be following this thread for future updates on this but as of probably Friday I will be owning a Galaxy Nexus instead of this inferior piece of crap... Will still be a Samsung but not based on crapsynos...

Edit: Why? I got tired and the hardware isn't that superb anyway..

Tapatalked from my GT-I9300 running high on CM10.
[Galaxy S III General] b-eock:
Exynos is still the worlds greatest mobile processor... With or without source...
[Galaxy S III General] mobilevirus:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/live-samsung-developers-qa-at-big-android-bbq/

WIN!
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Open a dialogue, we asked a question, they responded, we're not sure what they're promising to release, so we politely ask them to clarify, better to find out now whether we're getting whats needed by devs, now, then to find out when they actualy release it, one person can ask and the rest can upvote, like, or add there own comment of support to the question that asks for clarification......im a bit disapointed that more questions were'nt asked at the meeting...........i dont see asking for clarification, as spamming, i see it as an open dialogue, we asked, they responded, we ask for clarification........dont burn bridges just yet.........if they dont respond, you can take that as a response, but give a reasonable amount of time before we completly turn our backs on samsung

Another thing to ask is if we can have a dialogue with any of the representatives at the recent samsung developer convention, asking for contact details for thoses representatives, if that gets an ok, then at least we have a potential open dialogue with those that are directly involved in the samsung side of things

So theyve giving some sort of deadline, if im getting the gist of it, we're gonna get something at least before the year is up...........entropy has mentioned new contacts, he also mentions that it looked as if samsungs employees are only now becoming aware of their own inner circles if i read that right

New contacts, and samsungs "self awarenes" is a step in the right direction in my book, lets hope its true........

I understand, the waiting is frustrating, the, lack of a better word, silence.

A short period of time feels longer when you increasily start to think.......are we being played.........and the simple remedy is, "talk to us" "let us know how its going" "keep us appraised" "whats the progress" "any eta's" "nice weather we're having"..........

Frustrate away, but dont burn bridges, just yet
[Galaxy S III General] ch0ka:
Hey man from the past ;)

What about reading the last 5 pages?
[Galaxy S III General] Zatta:
I fully agree on this. As it seems we are not there yet, however, they have taken contact with our devs and initiated something positive. Wet just need to keep some pressure, in a nice and friendly manner.

And remember, we are all on the same side, there is no need to derail this thread (again) by picking on each other.

Taptalked u see .. əəs n pəʞlɐʇdɐʇ
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
I'll take that post as a complement then! As you've already appreciated me more than most here... ;)

It's better to have been liked than never liked at all.
[Galaxy S III General] stefankorun:
I also share this opinion. If someone is able to compose a nice 'thank you but we won't stop writing here until we get what we want' note it would be great.
[Galaxy S III General] BatGnat:
Samsung Set To Open-Source Parts Of The Exynos

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIxMjU

Samsung Set To Open-Source Parts Of The Exynos

Posted by Michael Larabel on October 22, 2012

It appears that Samsung is preparing to open-source some code pertaining to their Exynos ARM SoC.

At an event this weekend (YouTube stream), Samsung said they will open-source the kernel and platform components of their Exynos SoC. This new code is said to be dual-licensed under the GPLv2 and Apache 2.0 licenses.

Samsung also says it will support ARM Mali GPU driver development, which it uses with its Exynos SoC. It's not known at the moment whether this means supporting the community Lima driver project or something else.

As part of this new open-source initiative, Samsung looks like it will be upping its Linux support for the Origenboard, its primary Exynos development board.

Up to this point for Exynos there's been bits of open-source drivers, like their Exynos DRM driver that is in the mainline Linux kernel but the 3D bits are not covered and they have no open-source user-space for 3D / OpenGL ES coverage.

It will be interesting to see what Samsung ultimately does with their Exynos open-source play since most ARM SoC vendors aren't too open-source friendly up to this point. It was just days ago though that word on the new Google Chromebook emerged, which boasts a Samsung Exynos 5250 SoC with Cortex-A15 cores.

Google certainly does like open-source for their ChromeOS work such as their work on Coreboot support for new hardware and Google's work on open-source graphics drivers for use by their earlier Intel-based Chromebooks.