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[Galaxy S III General] :
At the bottom of the page...
[Galaxy S III General] qwerty12:
If you mean the "generated by..." line, that's when the page was rendered for display on your screen
[Galaxy S III General] stefankorun:
Wow, it is the first time I see this thread on the third page. Samsung did find a way to calm us down :)

On I side note I would like to know what can Samsung suffer from the release of the code? Other manufacturers stealing nice algorithms or the only point is to restrict development of "older" devices AOSP firmware so we buy more new stuff from them?
[Galaxy S III General] Lownita:
I think that aosp/root users acutually are such a small percentage of the entire customers, it wouldn't really bother.
[Galaxy S III General] stefankorun:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1956870

Look who is making the new Nexus. Freaking irony.
[Galaxy S III General] LarsenB:
No way! Thanks for the update!
[Galaxy S III General] DrGomez:
LG is the worst phone manufacturer in the universe. And in terms of customer service... they suck just as bad. Now some more people will have the pleasure to find out about that *rant mode over*

Dunno why the hell Google partnered them for the next nexus -.-
[Galaxy S III General] Zatta:
They are taking about that particular phone, not about all lg phones.

Taptalked u see .. əəs n pəʞlɐʇdɐʇ
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Nope, not this guy, thanks to that comment......well, not unless they announce specific support to the open community AND follow through......cheers :good:

See how that works sammy

Lets see now, unless they reverse their stances, i have

Asus -prime

Lg - bootloader

Sony ericson - mini pro- bootloader

Sammy - wait and see
[Galaxy S III General] DrGomez:
and you are defending LG why?
[Galaxy S III General] Net.silb:
Since the Nexus 4 is a Nexus device it will receive completely different support (from Google rather than LG) than other LG phones, just look at the difference between GS2 & 3 and the Galaxy Nexus...

Basically, I'm planning on buying the Nexus 4 next month and selling my GS3...
[Galaxy S III General] -A-P-M-:
+1

Most negative comments about LG are related to their SW. For LG Nexus 4

is Google responsible for software and it will run vanilla Android, with all sources and drivers avalible. Their hardware is great and even more powerful than SGS3 hw. Also materials are more premium (less plastic). It will first get updates, and stable custom roms in short time. A few CM developers already wrote they will sell SGS3 and get LG Nexus 4.
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
Not really sure if the hardware is much to write home about, as it lacks external SD-card support, does not have an exchangeable battery nor Super Amoled Screen(might seem as a plus for some people). The S4 Pro is great, but considering that Samsung are already on the 5250 which is a full-fledged A15 SoC with a T-604, I'd rather wait for the SGS4, now that Samsung are starting to release their Sources and update them more regularly. Either that or wait for next year's Nexus that is actually an upgrade from the SGS3.

Lot of impatient people here I guess.

Samsung said they would release the necessary sources on November 12th, so at least give them until then before leaving and supporting an even worse company.
[Galaxy S III General] :
I really hope that they will...
[Galaxy S III General] E:V:A:
I just can't keep quiet on this one.

No matter how bad you think LG is, they write the best Service Manuals I've seen around. Ever!

So if they give crappy service, it must be because they're occupied writing manuals, just like Qualcomm...
[Galaxy S III General] scoffyburito:
I'm sold!!
[Galaxy S III General] :
So am I!!
[Galaxy S III General] jhericurls:
Me too, if they release a 32GB version.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
Personally I'd rather have a phone that doesn't need a service manual.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Perhaps we should just wait and see how lg handles their nexus phone, before we rule it out or not
[Galaxy S III General] Rildiz:
Voice of reason.

I know that I'm actually debating getting the new padfone but not sure how Asus handles their Dev 'support'
[Galaxy S III General] vittogn:
Locked bootloader!

If u are happy to lose your warranty (that in EU is 2 years) you can unlock with their tool.
[Galaxy S III General] banderos101:
Cant claim extensive knowledge, and i only have the tf201 prime to base this on, what i do know is that they locked your bootloader, giving you the option to download an unlocker tool from asus, which would void your warrenty if used, not to mention, the tool itself didnt work for some users, and if i rem3mber rightly borked others.......so no more warrenty and borked tablet......GREAT!

Things to look up when considering asus next product

-quality control.........gps, bluetooth, wifi, camera......and screen defects [hardware]

-io issues.......looks like thats been an issue since tf101, i think even their latest tf700 has the same problem

-os issues........many reports of, reboots, screen flickering

To me buying a tf201 felt like russian roullete,

I wont rule them out, but ill never impulse buy from them again, and unless i hear good things, and none of the bad ive mentioned, THEN id consider an asus product that catches my eye

Just to be partial, many prime users comment to say they are happy with their product.....maybe they have lower expectations....or there is a reallly bad qc issues??i dont know, id just advise caution with asus
[Galaxy S III General] Turbotab:
OK, some potential good news. Samsung have launched the Arndale development board for Exynos 5250, you can add various modules such as Camera / GPS etc, so it looks like a complete development package. There is a lot of cool information on the device, at the link below. As to the quality of the sources / documentation, well it states on the wiki that their source tree will open in December, so we will have to wait I suppose, but what do any developers think, is this a positive sign from Samsung?

http://www.arndaleboard.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

The Mali T604 of the 5250 has already been benchmarked, it is powerful, but I don't think the A6X will removed from the top table:mad:

http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedet...ro25&D=Samsung+Arndale+Board&testgroup=system
[Galaxy S III General] :
Let's see what the CM team have to say about this...
[Galaxy S III General] Turbotab:
What will be interesting in a couple of months is to compare the quality of the documentation of Samsung's developer github vs the Raspberry PI project.
[Galaxy S III General] labbe-:
http://officialandroid.blogspot.com/2012/10/nexus-best-of-google-now-in-three-sizes.html

there you have it. LG Nexus 4 16GB $329 unlocked and without contract. Might be I'm getting one too if I don't have to pay very much extra for delivery to Finland. Hope Sammy will get their **** together and deliver the needed sources, but I want CM as it's meant to be and only a Nexus can deliver it properly.
[Galaxy S III General] Net.silb:
Hell Ya! Buying it as soon as it comes out, selling my S3 and making a profit from it!!! :laugh:

As Codeworkx twitted: "Nexus 4? buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy... bye bye samsung. :D"
[Galaxy S III General] coachpotato:
Now that Samsung have made a Nexus tablet, I'm hoping that Google would force them to provide source for Exynos. Simply because they are now part of the Nexus program (that Google controls) and I highly doubt Google would go along with a device that they don't have complete access to.
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
Apart from N10 is built on Exynos 5, not 4. Dont suppose Google really gives a crap about anything that doesn't effect them. Exynos 4 and the SGS3 does not concern them.
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
Thread gets funnier by the day ;)

Utterly mystified on how you think you can make a profit on your s3? :confused:;)
[Galaxy S III General] graffixnyc:
While it's true it wont help us with exynos 4(I don't think anyway), If the GS4 has the exynos 5(which it should unless they release something else by then) it will for sure help with AOSP rom support for it but that doesnt really help the GS3
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
Don't quote me, but I think he means he'll buy the N4 for $329 and as long as he sells his S3 for anything more than that, he'll have a new phone plus extra money in his pocket..

Maybe :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
...I kinda guessed that was the thinking behind it.....which, as we all know, isn't making a profit.....so I thought I would have a quick cheeky one.....being the irascible old git I am! :D
[Galaxy S III General] #illidan:
Google why is a 32 GB Nexus 4 so difficult to make?:banghead: Non expandable 16 GB isn't enough because most people you don't have a tablet uses their phones as media consumption devices & the world isn't ready yet to move everything to the cloud. USB OTG is an option but that isn't a solution. Hoping that a 32 GB comes out sooner than later:(
[Galaxy S III General] :
As fas as I know, this thread has nothing to do with Nexus 4. So please stop bragging about you getting one...
[Galaxy S III General] #illidan:
I'm sorry I didn't know that everyone sticks to the topic over here based on the last few pages. Seems a bit unfair to single me out but anyway it won't happen again.
[Galaxy S III General] :
I was not talking to you specifically... :sly:
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
this thread is turning into some kinda "relieve the stress" thread. people feel relieved when they say " im selling my s3 and getting a nexus4". But the funny part is no one is going to care about that crap :D
[Galaxy S III General] jshashwat93:
I get what your saying but really what stress? I still believe I am holding the best phone out there. I'm surely giving Samsung the one month they have asked for.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
SOme people think saying " im getting a nexus" will piss off many including samsung,but actually it wont piss off anyone ;)
[Galaxy S III General] :
Exactly. So please stay on topic...
[Galaxy S III General] :
They are bragging about taking steps to support the dev community... :rolleyes:

https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos/status/263033787045273601
[Galaxy S III General] jshashwat93:
Seems like Nexus 4 is scaring them. The question is whether they will actually release the required material or not.
[Galaxy S III General] Turbotab:
If anybody thinks that Samsung releasing full sources and solid documentation for the Exynos 5 SoC won't affect the 4412 in S3 etc, then you are crazy.

It will signify that senior management has green-lighted the process, meaning any resistance that the Samsung technical team encountered before when attempting to provide a good framework for the open-source community has been massively reduced. Poorly documented code is not the sign of a good developer, and I'm sure that this fiasco has been a source of embarrassment for Samsung developers.
[Galaxy S III General] skivnit:
funny thing is...how many people here will ditch their s3?100?300??1000? lol thats just too small..it's all about the average user..
[Galaxy S III General] zoot1:
Something for you all to read :p

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1938623

I don't know how true the news is...everything seems to a rumor around here!!
[Galaxy S III General] LJE:
You'd be surprised how many people would take into acc what happens in a month or two when buying their next phone.

And lets face it, using my S2, S3 S4/5 etc is a walking advertisement for Samsung.

Even ONLY 100 people holding nexus 4's instead of a Samsung product would affect Samsung.

Using my Samsung draws attention almost everyday. A lot of people ask me if that's the new iPhone. *noobs*

So if they can't tell the difference between an iPhone and an S3, they won't tell the difference between an S3 and an N4.

They don't see things like smart stay or tilt to zoom. They see things like the speed/smoothness of my phone and the way my widgets/ui is set up. (Nova prime)

I'm looking forward to having CM10 running with all these small annoying bugs sorted out when/if Samsung pull through in a month.

If that happens I will promote the **** out of Samsung and definitely stay loyal to them.

If they don't release what's needed I won't diss them as they don't have to release anything, but I will jump ship and move on.

Btw my boss will be leaving apple after seeing my phone today.

One more for Samsung... no thanks to the adds on tv over here :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] Turbotab:
Ever been to party and got there as everybody else is leaving? then you have now:laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Loøoool nice 1. Service manual woww. Must buy it now .

Come on samsung do us faithful customers proud. And entropy states its mainly up to the mainteners. So even if codeworx and xplod leave. Cm lovers only need other mainteners to step up and the team will back them. Im pretty sure thats what i got from his huge comment in the other forum. But it does sound good

The only thing seperating me from my current device is the galaxy s4.
[Galaxy S III General] gavin-phelan:
Hope all goes our way soon
[Galaxy S III General] Ensifolk:
I have been a reason for MORE than 100 people to buy Samsung all around my family and friends. Trust me, If samsung doesn't release their source code, this is my last Samsung device, and Im even selling it for a Nexus 4. Think about how many others are going to do the same, and not to forget that in the near future, we aren't buying ANY more Sammy's. It's a loss in the long run, for those who are saying Sammy won't give a ****....Stop acting like Touchwiz fan-boys. My only regret is? That I didn't read much before buying my S3. I bought it blindly for sure thinking it has a damn smooth CM10 looking at its hardware, not aware of the exynos chip. I regret selling my Galaxy Nexus :)
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
You spew hatred over Samsung, yet you say you regret selling the Gnex? Nexus or not, the Gnex is also a Samsung.
[Galaxy S III General] TheCraig:
I admit I kind of wish I had a One X now... I should have researched a LOT more before I finally bought it but the only reason I wish I had a One X was because of how smooth CM10 would be, Come on Samsung its not to late to get that One X, I love your phone, this is my first Samsung android phone and I'm loving it but I'm more worried about not getting past Samsungs official updates, once they stop we're left in the dust with crappy documentation (Maybe none if they go back on their word) running unstable ports.
[Galaxy S III General] AndreiLux:
Sorry but you're an elitist idiot. You blindly bought a product for something unrelated to the product. I recently bought a new router and thought I'd install DD-Wrt on it, but it didn't have any compatibility for that model, I didn't get upset nor am I somehow starting to bash on Cisco because of that. You recommended something to 100 people for the wrong reasons, and most of those people won't give a crap about CM or even know what it is. Unless you're going to personally install and update their phones with AOSP and knows what else, you're just making stupid claims to those people.

Sometimes you people seem out of touch with reality and out of your mind with this hyperbolic drama. Not being able to run CM doesn't reduce the value of the product, CM is just something additional and a bonus. You regret selling your GN? That's some heavy hipster bullshít. The S3 on JB outperforms it handily on stock firmware.

Some people need to peek into HTC's world where they take months to release kernel sources. The Optimus 2X just got yesterday their very first CM10 nightly. If all of their users started whining as much as some people here we'd have the UN thinking these companies are committing genocide or something. I know it can be better and it sucks, but get some damn perspective and rationality.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Can Someone please explain this 900 page manual on the Exynos4412 That was apparently released around a week ago?
[Galaxy S III General] Flynny75:
Not quite what CM needs, but perhaps useful nonetheless. My faith in Samsung to deliver what CM needs has not been totally extinguished.
[Galaxy S III General] AndreiLux:
Where'd you get that one from? It's 3mB smaller than the official version.

Anyway it is exactly what it says, a user's manual. This is what developers use when they create the platform from the scratch up.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Ahh Ok... Thought it was something new.. No i just converted it into a proper PDF which must of reduced the size. When you download it its actually not a PDF file.. but when i opened it with Adobe i then saved as pdf.
[Galaxy S III General] Ensifolk:
I didnt tell the bunch of people to buy it for the sake of running cm10! I am speaking for myself....i wont buy a samsung anymore becz of their crap sources. And yes i totally regret selling my nexus, i regret ditching the aosp based phone when i didnt give a heck if it was manufactures by samsung or not...its a nexus my friend...nexus 4 the meet is soon...this is my opinion, just respect it rather than calling people stupid. You just made a lovely point for those like me who like aosp roms, we shall only buy nexus phones ! Not htc,sammy or any other rather than crying for the sources and aosp based roms builds.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
People dont care a damn about staying on topic!! Whiners just stay out of here or start "official moaners thread" ;)

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Your post was so damn helpful for getting the source from samsung thanks a loads :rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Well so far samsung is saying they are going to release so we just have to wait and yes that tweet will be good if it happens. For the people who come on here to whine, Why dont you just leave now why are you waiting? You seem like you have made up your mind by the way you are bad mouthing samsung. And are you saying you bought the samsung S3 only to run CM10 or AOSP?, Well then Andreilux is right its completely Idiotic. You knew from day one it was not a AOSP phone, So how can you blame samsung for it? Again as andreilux said if they release the source well then thats an added bonus to an already great phone. Over 30 Million users probably close to 50 Million by now. They are not going to panic because you and your relatives or even your whole town leave. The amount of users is almost 3 times the population of Australia lol There will always be a new dev ready to work with the S3. But seriously don't come on here and tell us about how you going to leave this and that. .. Because to be honest I don't really think we care if you stay or go. Peace... take it easy
[Galaxy S III General] ballsofsteel:
I bought the s3 a couple of months ago thinking that it would have great development support. However, I did no know of this exynos source thing beforehand.

Are all sources for the chips open in the Nexus phones (N1, N S, Gnexus, Nexus 4)? Since my previous phone, the first gen Galaxy S shares almost everything (SoC, ram) with the Nexus S, does it mean that it actually has better support than the s3?
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Well they certainly will release something but the BIG Question is will this Origen Board stuff be compatible with AOSP and the actual devices itself or will it be broken and useless on the actual device like before.

One thing that makes me at least a little optimistic is that in my opinion it wouldn`t make any sense if they would release something that is completely broken and incompatible like what the devs have now. Why would they release something that is already there and useless?

Here`s a example of the situation right now from about 10 hours ago:

Samsung Exynos Tweet:

Xplodwild answer:

So yes the big question is will it work on our devices but we will see when they release this stuff...
[Galaxy S III General] Thealshear:
Guys Samsung started updating their git

Look :D

http://git.insignal.co.kr/samsung/exynos/android/platform/hardware/samsung_slsi/exynos4/
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
If its the 6 day old stuff, yes they already know about this. Apparently its not the up to date stuff anyways so we shall keep waiting till end of novemeber hopefully by then its all updated with JB exynos stuff

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1+

My thoughts aswell
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
6 days old (and possibly broken stuff) for the ics branch.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
the link mentions some files named lib hwcomposer and stuffs, probably @entropy512 should have a look on it :) i really appreciate all his efforts
[Galaxy S III General] Jack Barrett:
Hwcomposer file includes some date from 2011. Is this last updated?

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Oh i see on top

update android.mk for all subdirs Crystal-ICS404-2A25RTM exynos-ics

So they provided for now the ics sources.

It means we will definitely get very soon jb sources.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Yeh i think they had these sittin in the draw for a while now they decided we should have thenmm . So hope it al works out and continiue to release all the updated stuff we need
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
can you explain that a bit more?
[Galaxy S III General] DEEBS808:
Definitely getting a nexus 4. But keeping my s3.
[Galaxy S III General] f0xy:
Maybe some good person can see if it will work for cm9!
[Galaxy S III General] Jack Barrett:
On top of all published stuff is this ICS thing (their sources for ICS). They have also JB sources which will be uploaded soon. So keep checking this site
[Galaxy S III General] didicola:
at least we will have fully working cm9 for the time being
[Galaxy S III General] alojo:
Camera as good as Stock's included?
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
If it will be compatible for AOSP and on the actual devices itself. As of now no dev said that they can use it to make things better.
[Galaxy S III General] didicola:
time will show us...;)
[Galaxy S III General] borjaag:
I don't understand it very well...

Can devs do something with these documents?

http://git.insignal.co.kr/samsung/e...are/samsung_slsi/exynos4/commit/?h=exynos-ics
[Galaxy S III General] Entropy512:
It's taking the words of various developers and completely mangling them.

The maintainers have quit, but no official Cyanogenmod-wide decision has made, and never will be made.

Other devices could get CM from new maintainers, but that's questionable.

It doesn't have JACK **** to do with FM. CM9/10 is completely missing FM infrastructure on ALL devices. If we had an infrastructure for it at all we could probably get it working on Samsungs. The Si4709 isn't exactly a complex chip.

I posted regarding this almost a week ago... We looked at it over the weekend, not useful.

Broken crap almost identical to the old Insignal and Hardkernel source drops that have existed for months. Produces a HWC that is indistinguishable in operation from no HWC at all.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
How are we to greet this post?
[Galaxy S III General] :
Edit: wrong thread... :p
[Galaxy S III General] wolfboy1984:
With as much contempt as usual I'd imagine.
[Galaxy S III General] saranyan:
So all the SGS3 maintainers have officially quit?
[Galaxy S III General] ThunderBolt_BR:
They will no longer support new devices using exynos chips (except if it is a Nexus model).

They still are supporting SGS3, at least until they realize how true is Sammy's promess to provide sources.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
With all due respect, until a new device is released it has no maintainers anyway and I would expect if one dropped with sources and docs that maintainers would come forward. If it drops with the current half baked crap they won't. I'm not overly worried as if the current release pans out someone will take up the helm if not I'll have to survive the next two years with sammie based roms.
[Galaxy S III General] overflyer:
Seriously, only 1493 likes at FB so far? :(