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[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
Well I suppose it really depends on how much of a development push will be behind the Sony Xperia Z and the Sony Xperia ZL. Does anyone think/know whether they will be popular on the XDA developer scene (and not just popular for anyone who isn't an XDA developer) ?? :confused:

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Good point, although Sony have provided the exact measurements of the device and if you take the screen resolution (including the above calculation) into account then surely it would explain whether or not Sony have rounded the quote screen size up or down?? :confused: Also, I have a hunch that it may be 5 inches dead on, excactly.
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
:good: The Sony Xperia Z is now up for Pre-order at Amazon UK:

Sony Xperia Z at Amazon UK. SIM Free. £549.99. "This item is due to be released on March 1, 2013."

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Xperia...OXKW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1359109415&sr=8-2
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
xperia z retail unboxing?

[YOUTUBE]ZHuj_jGdwio[/YOUTUBE]
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
absolutely stunning, wowww!! thanks for sharing mate..
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
Looking at that video, the display and the phone as whole looks stunning, especially in black.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
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How come???

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
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I'm guessing pre release review versions....
[Xperia Z General] beeboss:
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Would be interesting to know if the screen in the final version reacts unpredictabely when is watered like in this video or it will be improved .
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Will always happen, thzy can't do much about it. Capacitive screens work with an electrical charge flowing away through your finger when you touch it. When you put it in water it basically works as if you're touching the phone all over but with water instead of your finger.
[Xperia Z General] paul-c:
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It would be really cool of Sony to include the dock with the Z. Not that they have to, the headphones are a nice touch as it is.

Sent from my Sony Xperia P
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
They will be doing that in some countries. In Belgium for example you get the dock with your phone.
[Xperia Z General] sfkaudi:
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In Denmark to
[Xperia Z General] anirudh412:
If that really is the case, I am going to buy the Z no matter what! Forever, I have dreamt of a phone that it completely featureless on the front, and just the camera and a subtle branding on the back. Lying on the table, it would look so mysterious :good:
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
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what about in the UK? For example if getting the Sony Xperia Z through the o2-UK mobile network?
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
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If you saw the Xperiablog ..there was some damage which needed to be done and some tools required to actually get it off..its not so simple..just more of tampering required to get it off really..
[Xperia Z General] anirudh412:
Yeah, just checked it out. However, from the comments, seems like people were able to remove the 'screen protector' from their other Sony phones, so I am hoping it wouldn't be too hard. One can only wish :)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
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Please use this thread for all discussions and comparisons with Xperia Z, thanks.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2106733

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] avetny:
hahaha ! I also thought about it !!!:good:
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
As there are different sub-models of the Sony Xperia Z (4G LTE version and the 3G HSDPA+ version) which will be sold in the UK? Would really like the 4G LTE version. I'm concerned that it won't be sold here though. Any thoughts/news on this please? :confused: Many thanks
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Europe will only be getting the C6603, which has LTE. Both have HSPA+ by the way, there is no advantage to the HSPA+ version for Europe which is why it's not being sold here.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Yes they did and the phones did not sell well. The gap between announcement and release was to bit.

This will be the first batch of true Sony phones. They will be much faster to the market than last year.

But you have a valid point. AT&T is always months behind on European carriers to offer Sony phones.
[Xperia Z General] gregbradley:
wrong.

the x10 was the experiment xperia phone and it was a resounding sucess, hence the huge range of xperia phones since then.

But the true sony phone is a development,its an evolution....
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
I do sincerely hope that the phones are released no later than 3 weeks after announcement. Otherwise, the buzz is gone. Apple and Samsung do that very well. They announce their phones and then they're on the shelves 3 weeks later. I hope Sony does that.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
I totally agree with you. If Sony does not release the phones on time it will face even tougher competition and all the hype will be gone once it is available.

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The X10 was a Sony-Ericsson phone not a Sony phone. All the phones that were released this year were still designed by SE and not by Sony.
[Xperia Z General] gregbradley:
and that just goes to prove my point..if you want the latest phone, buy the latest phone out there, if you are going to second guess and watch the rumour market you wilnever buy...

its an evolution......
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
You're not making much sense. He stated the upcoming phones are the first batch of purely Sony designed phones, and then you said wrong. He countered, then you apparently agreed that the original statement was true. He's talking about the delay between officially announcing the phone and getting it on the shelves for purchase. At that point it has nothing to do with the rumour market.
[Xperia Z General] gregbradley:
What I was trying to say origanally was that if you keep waiting for the best rumoured phone you will be dissaponted, because as soon as you buy a phone its out dated, there will rumours of a better updated phone around the corner. Phone development is continous. With most people being on long term cobtracts its inevitable that even if you buy the latest phone it will be overtaken by a new phone within months, if not weeks.

Anyway, I dont normally post in these threads as rumour and persoanl opinion are just that, and everyone is right about their own preferences.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
AT&T = no. They were going to carry the Odin but dropped it recently. They will be picking up the fall release Xperia flagship. No info on that one yet they are being very tight lipped.

T-Mobile might pickup the Odin. They are talking about it it haven't decided yet.

Should be available unlocked from Sony if not.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
No bueno. I sure hope that they will have an unlocked version directly from Sony even if T-Mobile gets the phone.

Need a good LTE phone.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Yuga - 138.6 x 71 x 8.1 - 140 grams - water resistant

Odin - 131.6 x 69.7 x 9.8 - 147 grams - IR remote
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Anything else you would like to share :D
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
That's all I have for now. I will of course share more when I get it. Can't wait for these phones though they look absolutely amazing.
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
DAG NABBIT! I'm gonna be pissed at Sony if they force me to choose between a water resistant Yuga and an IR remote Odin! I want both in one device :(

... maybe they'll put it all in the 6" phablet? I don't suppose you have any info on that, do ya?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
I know I want both too. Nothing else at the moment.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Xperia Z General] ABDULHADIKH:
Hi

How you know this info !!!

And when they will be available!!

Thanks !
[Xperia Z General] zoneking:
can dogo reach ip57 waterpoof and has IR remote,too？

i am very thank you
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Since you have seen both of the phones. Is the design the same on both or are they different? What markets is Yuga for and what markets is Odin for?

How does the Odin compare to this?
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Thanks for all your helpful info. Will Odin use dragontrail glass on the back and front like Yuga? If not, could you maybe tell us which of the two devices you feel looks more premium or classy?
[Xperia Z General] cryingfreeman22:
Wateresistant is only asian version?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Nothing like it. Odin and yuga have same design/look just slightly different sizes. Look for the yuga leaked pictures.

Both have dragontail glass front and back.

Not sure on that yet. Odin definitely will hit US shores, hoping yuga does too. Yuga is the only water resistant one.

I have contacts ;). Should be March/April timeframe at least that's what's planned so far.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
I've already clicked thanks but I also wanted to say it - Thanks! :good: :D :laugh: Also, what was your source of information for this, please :o :) ? Many thanks and very kind regards.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Logic :P The C6602 has extra frequencies for T-Mobile USA that are useless in Europe. The hardware is exactly the same. There's no reason for them to release the C6602 in Europe.

Also, I suspect that flashing C6603 firmware (including baseband) on a C6602 will simply convert it because of this.
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Should be since they all have the same modem chipset... Would be great if we could swap basebands so the device would be universally compatible if ever you decide to go out of country.
[Xperia Z General] mattman83:
It's not going to work like that. If a modem could handle all possible bands, then that's what would be enabled. However it's not unheard of for the same baseband software to be loaded on multiple variants of the chipset and work happily. On my old desire I had a much more uncommon 3G 850/2100 model (normally 900/2100). Could flash the same basebands with no problems, however it was always still 850/2100.

M.
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
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Sony Xperia Z slated for February 9 release in Japan http://goo.gl/s14fn
[Xperia Z General] Crucio_:
Lets hope that EU will get it soon after :) Im in serious need of this phone in my life!
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
The Sony Xperia Z will be available on or after 28th February through o2-UK ;)
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
How many homescreens can you go up to on the Z?
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
As many as you want
[Xperia Z General] Crucio_:
I know thats only a month away but I wish it was sooner :P I had my s2 break on me on new year and sammy wont help me out in getting it fixed. I have had to use an old bb Bold of my mums since then so i think most can understand why im eager to see this out :)

Good to know about o2, i spoke to a person via there online chat service mid afternoon yesterday and they couldnt give me any details on a release date or pricings. Trying to work out if its gonna be cheeper to buy the phone outright or get a new contract :)
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Nope, 7 is the maximum amount with the default launcher. You can always install another launcher of course.
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
When it's released it's pretty much configureable by compiling and decompiling the launcher :) It's easy as pie.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
If you have root. Without root you can't just install a modified version over the regular one because of the signature mismatch.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Sony Xperia ZL looks like it’s coming to Bell
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Not a signature mismatch but just a conflict with package names. If really wanted to install a modded launcher we can just change the package name on the manifest file and install it as a user app. And just select the modded one as default launcher then.
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
Do you think that there will be root and SU access, CWM recovery and a CyanogenMod rom/nightly for the Sony Xperia Z fairly soon after it has released? Does the Sony Xperia Z have a lot of popularity amongst the xda developers/do you think there will be a lot of development for it? :confused:
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Yes and yes.

Sony's devices are extremely easy to root. All it takes is a bootloader unlock and a system image which can be downloaded from Sony Update Service very easily (as far as I know).
[Xperia Z General] kornklown69:
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Sony is working very closely with the aosp community
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
In terms of the release date for the Sony Xperia Z , o2-UK say: "Launches February 2013" (and as I already mentioned previously the date I was told by an o2-UK sales advisor is the 28th February - this is cutting it a bit fine to say it releases in February!)

Amazon UK says : "This item is due to be released on March 1, 2013."

Sources:

http://www.o2.co.uk/comingsoon

http://www.o2.co.uk/sony/xperia-z

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Xperia...OXKW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1359457347&sr=8-2

http://www.itproportal.com/2013/01/29/sony-xperia-z-release-date-and-pricing-confirmed/
[Xperia Z General] Brac20:
You can always just whack Apex or Nova on as the launcher and download an xperia theme?
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
Anyone seen this vid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9vNXTaqcTw&feature=player_embedded
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
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I have a Z here for a bit, any questions?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
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Wish it was in English :P

Do we need to buy new Sony TVs !!!

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
Are whites white,or is there any sign of a yellowish tint to the display??

Thanks
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
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Yes..few questions

1. Build quality, hows it?

2. Sample camera pics, sply Low light.

3. Install atleast 4 widgets on all screens, is it still smooth?

4. Call quality, sply Speaker mode.

Plz plz answer these !! :)

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] Brac20:
How does the screen compare to a One X?

Are the colours washout out like some say or is it just the usual LCD colours when compared to AMOLED?

How is the stock experience? Smooth and user friendly?
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
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Super solid. Like a block, no way to make it creak.

It's a prototype, says on the casing, and software is not final. Camera is fast but again not final, so samples probably aren't useful. Still only says 12Mp max.

UI is fast, no lag and it's full of widgets and shortcuts.

Screen is better than T, blacks could be better, but saturation and contrast look great. Not got a one x here to compare directly, but it's more like than the T screen.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
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Call Quality can't be tested?

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] kornklown69:
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I can't wait to try out nfc they have a version of beam from one device to the other
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
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Was all a bit rushed sorry, only had 10min.

Found some Sony Alpha pics in the gallery, they looked stunning on the screen. Easily one of the best I've seen.

The feeling is almost strange, there's no give or flex at all. Like it's a solid lump. There isn't another phone I can think of that feels so.... Solid! It feels carved from block rather than put together.
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
Would you say it feels more solid and feels better in Tge hand overall than the iPhone5?
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
Great to hear this. And seeing as you know the right people (because you got to use it already :p ) do you have any more of a definite, solid release date please?
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
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Easily more solid than the iPhone 5.

I've been told Feb 22nd for UK.
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
Check this out for the Sony Xperia Z !! :D http://vondroid.com/threads/sony-xperia-z-unboxed-pictures.5587/
[Xperia Z General] shadym1lkman:
Sony xperia ZL (6506)

Afternoon,

I can see from this thread that there are a great many different release dates for each of these phones and their variants in different regions. So I hesitate to ask, but I wanted to know if at least youd be able to purchase any specific model from the sony site itself or if the sale would be region locked. I wonder what the release schedule is looking like for the 6506 LTE ZL variant.
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
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Most likely region locked because of the network bands for each model. I don't know anything about release dates, but I'll be waiting for the 6506 here. Hopefully somebody has that info and hopefully it comes soon.
[Xperia Z General] brangalm:
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Thanks for answering. Any comments on battery life? That's my main concern.
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
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Sorry, no way I could test in such a short time. It was already around 10% when I first got hold of it. I noticed brightness was full, I found it more comfortable around 60%. The slider buttons on screen had a nice brushed metal effect, like the power button.

Burst was just as fast as I've seen, was told the sd card can affect the speed as the internal is faster than most cards.
[Xperia Z General] Fasty12:
lag?

Was there any lag or stuttering moving around the UI? Was everything locked at 60fps?
[Xperia Z General] Crucio_:
That makes me extremely happy :)
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
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No lag I could spot. Each homescreen had widgets on, chrome loaded a lot faster than on my T. That's the stock browser now.

Tv sidescreen app looked interesting, like a remote with a t.v. Guide built in. Nothing to connect it to though.

Ports solid, tried recording video as I put it in water, was so clear you couldn't tell.

Touchscreen sometimes clicks when putting in water, works fine when it's got drops on.
[Xperia Z General] Crucio_:
Here is hoping the white version comes with a white dock ;)
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
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The video recoding can stop with those under water "touches"?
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
If it accidentally touches the stop recording button, yes. Shouldn't really be a problem though as the 'touches' only happen during the transition and usually appear to the phone as a swipe gesture (which doesn't have any effect in the camera UI).
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
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It did take a photo while filming. Maybe simply keeping a finger on part of the screen would help prevent that?
[Xperia Z General] cs098:
yo can you post some pics and video using the xperia z would love to see the camera quality :D
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
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Might do, but from what I gather, you're extremely lucky if you even get one in your box, let alone if the colour matches your colour choice for the phone. In a vast number of regions you'll have to buy the dock seperately.
[Xperia Z General] pajry:
I'm not sure about that, at sonymobile is only black one available
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
This is the page for the charging dock for the Sony Xperia Z : http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/charging-dock-dk26/ . The page for the Sony Xperia Z itself has different sub-pages for the different colour variants donated by a '#' , without the quotation marks , followed by no spaces and the colour in lower-case: http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/phones/xperia-z/#purple . I tried using the same convention for the dock page and it stayed on the colour black, so I think that's going to be the only colour for the docks, unless they bring out other colour variants later.
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
No lagg whatsoever in the UI, it's extremly fast
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
Pretty good article for the Sony Xperia Z - especially for those (like me) who have been anxious to see how big it is in the hand - approximately anyway: http://translate.googleusercontent....photos&usg=ALkJrhhzSfw4e6Q9JcAKsY8-7coTaMB_ag
[Xperia Z General] voyagesauvietnam:
I really enjoyed Xpreria Z. I waiting for it to Vietnam
[Xperia Z General] MGSBigBoss:
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Any news on a CDMA variant for Verizon? Due for upgrade next month
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
No CDMA versions.
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
Sony Xperia Z gets officially priced in the United Kingdom

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z_gets_officially_priced_in_the_united_kingdom_-news-5458.php

(Posted on 01 February, 2013)

http://shop.sonymobile.com/gb/buy/xperia-z-black/1270-5659/

"The price includes all applicable taxes."

At Three UK the Sony Xperia Z has been priced as low as £34 per month and you have the possibility of winning a pair of Sony MDR-1R headphones too

http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Sony_Xperia_Z

At Digital Phone Company the Sony Xperia Z has been priced at £519.99

http://www.digital-phone.co.uk/pages/introducing-the-sony-xperia-z-smartphone.aspx
[Xperia Z General] funkyblue04:
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Crazy Expensive :(
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
£34 per month is not bad actually
[Xperia Z General] Al Gore:
What will be the largest microSD compatible for Z? 32 or 64?
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
64GB. Probably even 128GB.
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
No, it will be 32GB, giving you a theoretical 48GB - however, after a lot of reading around/research I found out that the system/rom files/whatever from Sony will take up approx 5GB; but 43GB free space is still pretty good, plus I don't whether or not Sony are including the 50GB free cloud storage that they did with the Sony Xperia V...
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Sigh. 64GB MicroSD's in FAT32 are supported, this has been confirmed by users who already have the phone.
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
XDA users? Or elsewhere? Do you have the link/links to the thread/s or article please? :) Many thanks! :)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
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I hope games data can be moved to sdcard (without rooting).

Its missing in Note 2

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
I'm not going to go through XDA to find those, use the search tool :P But you can take my word for it, I'm 100% sure it'll work.

Highly doubt it. The internal memory is mounted as /sdcard and you can only move stuff there usually.
[Xperia Z General] Crucio_:
Anyone from the UK able to say if phones from 3 are network locked? they have it listed on there site for Pay as you go for £449, could be a good choice for people to buy only the phone (like me).