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[Nexus 7 General] drpepe:
Phew I guess my friends and I have just been unbelievably lucky.

It is possible that we all have faulty devices and just haven't noticed, but I guess a fault that has no noticeable effect on my device isn't something I'd worry about!
[Nexus 7 General] wideasleep1:
Its always a few who cannot reconcile their displeasure that come here mystified that everyone cannot see exactly the same issue in exactly the same way and resort to ad hom attacks and thread trolling guised as 'helpful' or 'opposing view' when in truth these folks need to resolve their own issues, move on with life, and allow those of us that enjoy our hardware and our fora without re-soiling every thread with the same crap ad nauseum. Drop the faux 'logic' tack and learn to move on. It's long overdue.
[Nexus 7 General] LGM1970:
Happy with my Nexus

Bought my Nexus 7 (c80 model) a few days ago. No Screen lift, dead pixels or any of the problems that some others have been reporting. Seems perfect...so far :)
[Nexus 7 General] DroidRunner:
I don't feel bad because you had 7 different chances to sell them on craigslist and buy another tablet. That's like saying I slipped on the banana Peel 7 times but never bothered to throw it in the trash.
[Nexus 7 General] maztahbr:
You are wrong. The problem is there... right there...

SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW ...
[Nexus 7 General] CHollman82:
You're wrong because switchbitch says you are wrong, according to her ALL N7's have faults, and all of the people telling her otherwise in this thread be damned.
[Nexus 7 General] redmonke255:
Myself and three friends have the nexus 7. None of us have problems.

The vocal minority of xda is hilarious. Nobody takes them seriously.
[Nexus 7 General] alferret:
LMFAO

Haters need to start up a site all of their own and stop filling sites like xda with threads and posts that continually say the same bloody thing. It gets tiresome having to sift through all the crap when trying to find info or constructive comments.

Transmitted from either Nexus7 - Tab2 - GT-N7000 - i9100
[Nexus 7 General] Jeff_in_LA:
You are 100% right. People who are happy don't come on here, they are an unheard voice. Same with "yelp.com" - a complaint department.

You never call your car dealer and say - "Hey, my car is running great" - no one bothers.
[Nexus 7 General] maztahbr:
C‘mon... this complains its starting to get hilarious
[Nexus 7 General] simacca:
Same here, only difference is that I've had mine for a few weeks now. Am very happy :o
[Nexus 7 General] Switchbitch:
Yet with so many of you claiming you have perfect, faultless units, why then should I not keep exchanging my faulty ones until I get one of these perfect ones that are oh so common?

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Yes, perhaps I should ignore logic and go on my merry way blissfully ignorant. Great advice.

It's still practically impossible to get multiple faulty units in a row unless there is an extremely high fault rate. Perhaps you would like to lay out a convincing argument against this 'faux logic'?
[Nexus 7 General] CHollman82:
I already did, you ignored it. It's possible that a production batch was faulty, a shipment to a local store only got units from that batch, thus you could exchange it dozens of times and every one would be faulty. In this scenario the overall fault rate could be less than 1%... even though you could get dozens in a row through exchanges. How about either you don't ignore the argument this time or you don't present your flawed logic again?

The only thing wrong with mine after over two weeks of ownership is slight screen lift that I don't notice anymore and does not bother me at all after putting it in a case. That's a pretty minor thing to worry about, especially considering almost all other tablets have a laundry list of common faults as well. In fact, just about every electronic device ever sold had such a list, **** happens with complex electronics and manufacturing. The Nexus 7 is projected to hit 8 MILLION sales by the end of the year, do you really think that all of them have problems? The few hundred people complaining on here represent only a tiny fraction of a percent of all owners.
[Nexus 7 General] dparrothead1:
I wish y'all would stop quoting Switchybitch's post. This person is on my ignore list and the only time I have to see this redundant, idiotic crap, is when someone quotes it!!!
[Nexus 7 General] DroidRunner:
That's your argument? You said they don't exist....

You keep trying to find the one that has no flaws, but you claim they don't exist......:what:

Let us know his that goes....or better yet, don't.

Sent with my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 General] Switchbitch:
Because people keep claiming they have perfect ones. Why should I not keep trying? I'm trying to prove to myself that good ones are out there, but the evidence to the contrary keeps building with every unit I get.

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I invite you to explain why my opinion is idiotic. If you cannot, then refrain from posting your inane complaints which serve only to pad out the thread with your own brand of redundant, idiotic crap.
[Nexus 7 General] DroidRunner:
Reported, because this is just stupid.
[Nexus 7 General] Switchbitch:
Reported? For what purpose? A vain attempt to silence those of us who are less than happy with the Nexus 7 because most if not all of the units have faults? Because you think the mods take pity on you for being a little upset that your beloved N7 isn't as perfectly, flawlessly magical as you once thought? Pack your things and dawdle on over to MacRumors my friend, they are waiting for you with open arms and they have baked a cake just for you.

There are literally hundreds of people on XDA complaining about the quality of the Nexus 7. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this forum supports the open communication of users whether their experience be good, or bad.

Don't like the thread? Then stop clicking on it.
[Nexus 7 General] maztahbr:
Sugestion:

Make a vote pool with EUA regions, Canada, europe and asian country that sell nexus ( g play either) so we can track the most problematic places or stores
[Nexus 7 General] demandarin:
Its funny how, by a landslide, no one regrets purchase. I love my Nexus 7. Mines is running stock rom with trinity kernel. My other one is now running Team EOS stable 3.0 release. No regrets at all for me ;)
[Nexus 7 General] jager420:
Didn't read all six pages but replying to first comment-

I bought the device the day it came out and my right side of the screen was lifting. Called Google and they sent me a brand new one. Been using that one without a problem. I have left the tablet stock. Haven't tweeked anything. I love my nexus except for the fact I can't watch videos on some sites cause of flash. Hope sites start moving to HTML5 quicker.
[Nexus 7 General] Switchbitch:
Do you think the quality would vary by region or store? Why?

Any Nexus built to the same design will have the same design flaw. The reports seem to indicate that every region has the same rate of defects too.
[Nexus 7 General] DroidRunner:
What are you talking about? I never said I wasn't happy with ,y N7. Stop trying to get people to argue with you. Super annoying.
[Nexus 7 General] Switchbitch:
I don't regret buying mine either. It's a pain in the ass having to return it all the time but when it works, it's brilliant. If and when Asus sort out their QC it will be the best 7 inch by a large margin. This is mostly why the faults bother me so much; because this device has such potential otherwise.
[Nexus 7 General] espionage724:
Product defects are luck of the draw. For example with my Desktop, I hear of people complaining about the cheap PSU I have, saying it blew up instantly, could take other hardware out, etc. Sounds dangerous yea? I got that same PSU and a year later it's working great...
[Nexus 7 General] Switchbitch:
I agree, but 7 faulty units goes beyond luck of the draw and weighs heavily toward a high rate of faults. There are lots of people on XDA who report having 5 or more faulty units also. The odds against 1 single person in the world getting 7 faulty units are astronomical unless the fault rate is very high. Several people reporting the same experience on the same forum slides the scale significantly towards the high fault rate scenario aswell.

It doesn't matter how many people have bought a Nexus, nor does it matter how many people come running to XDA to complain about their faults, nor does it matter how many people don't come here to say they do not have a faulty device. Maths is maths and the probabilities speak for themselves.

I've experienced luck of the draw plenty times before; I've had countless electronic devices and a few had to be returned once in their warranty lifetime. The Nexus 7 is in a league of it's own; 3 months ownership so far and 7 returns.
[Nexus 7 General] CHollman82:
WHY do you keep saying this? It's simply not true and I've explained why twice now :eek:
[Nexus 7 General] maztahbr:
Thats is what the pool for. Maybe we can find if this was a assembler line specific problem, distribution, or any other thing
[Nexus 7 General] Switchbitch:
I have had several faulty units from different stores. Other posters have had several faulty units from different stores, in different countries. If it was only people who had purchased from my local store that were complaining, then it would make sense to consider the possibility that a run of units were bad and all ended up in the same store. However, this isn't the case. The units I personally have had were C6, C7 and C8 units. that means the fault would have to have existed for 3 whole months at least. That means if there is a 'production batch' that is bad, it's a 3 month long batch. People with C9 units are also complaining about the same faults so make that 4 months. I would also like to add that the last unit I had, a C8, was the worst one I have seen yet. This is not an isolated issue, it is ongoing, and it is global.

If people with C5 units have screen lift, and people with C9 units have screen lift, and the issue exists with every Cn in between, then every single unit is still being made exactly the same way; with a fault that causes stresses to build on the left of the unit which either makes the screen lift, causes display problems like backlight bleed or in worst case scenarios, cracks the digitizer. The only way to solve such a widespread problem is to halt production and modify the frigging design. It's not just a screw in some robot on the assembly line that needs turned, it's a whole re-design of the unit. Some N7 owners are reporting that Asus are now applying epoxy to the inside of the screen/bezel to hold the screens down. So they know the problem exists and are applying a crude fix instead of re-engineering the thing as they need to.

Firstly, you say I have flawed logic then present some truly flawed logic yourself. The people complaining here do represent a tiny fraction of a percent of all owners, I agree. That's because the people that post here are a tiny fraction of all the people who have bought the device. What do you assume is the fraction of owners of faulty units who do post here? I can tell you it is nowhere near 100%. In fact it is highly unlikely it is even close to being above 1%.

After all that, you go on to admit that you also have a faulty unit. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. It is irrelevant whether you care about the fault or not, you have a faulty unit!

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When I have time I intend to aggregate the statistics from posts and polls on XDA; if I eliminate all the posters who only joined after buying their Nexus, then the remaining users can be considered a random sample since they didn't just come here to complain.
[Nexus 7 General] darius359:
I checked the forum before buying mine and still went for it despite reading about all the issues. I have my HTC Sensation running with a stock ROM (IC Evolution 2.4) but because my stock C70 Nexus came otb in perfect running condition with no hw flaws, i only needed to unlock and root the device. Excellent purchase. Great toy.
[Nexus 7 General] Linexus:
I need to fix my C70 because the screen-lift problem, but beside this everything's perfect.
[Nexus 7 General] copota:
Sorry to hear you got a bum unit.

I got rather lucky. I bought mine used, 16GB C70, off Ebay for $170 & free shipping, though the $25 Play Store credit was already claimed. I followed new listings for about two weeks off and on before I came across this unit. Luckily I was one of the first to see it, since units posted at that price last on Ebay for 20 minutes tops.

I've had it for a month, and when I received it, it was flawless. Still, after a month of usage, and endless roms and kernels, it's working perfectly.

The battery life is absolutely amazing. On days of light usage, I can go 4 or 5 days without a charge.
[Nexus 7 General] James-NC:
Ordered mine on day one and have never had any issues.Works great with everything I throw at it.

When I use mine it is hard to believe all the crap complaints you read on this site about things being wrong with the N7.It really makes me think a lot of the defects are in people instead of the device.:D
[Nexus 7 General] O_G:
MOD Notice​

Now people, we need to calm down. I understand that feelings are running high on this subject, but there is no need to argue with each other. I think closing this would be a bit hasty, so i am prepared to leave it open as long as discussion remains civilized. If you have a issue, then feel free to post, but dont do so in a argumentative way, lets discuss things like adults.

It really does appear to be a split between users who have had problems, with some having none. There is do need to call users who report there device is fine a liar, because i am one of them. No dead pixels, no screen lift, nothing. And i really have no reason to lie about it.

Now lets proceed in a civilised, respectful way. If you are unable to do this, then dont post! Any further argumentative behaviour will result in this thread being closed, which will help nobody.​
[Nexus 7 General] phillip1953:
I've had my c80 n7 for a month now. Everything works fine with none of the issues I have read of. IMO, it's much better than I would have expected a $250 tablet to be.

Posted via my Amiga 3000,EVO 3D or PC
[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
If this forum is enough to scare you away from buying an item, I suggest you avoid all forums everywhere at all costs, whether it be an Apple forum, Microsoft forum, Ford forum, cell phone forum, etc. Forums, by nature, attract two types of people. Enthusiasts, and people who are looking for a place to vent their issues. Same thing goes on here. It's an easy way to reach out to as many people in a selective group (aka Nexus 7 owners) as possible.

Coming from somebody who even had their Nexus 7 screen crack randomly without dropping it (I just bombarded ASUS until they owned up to it and fixed it under warranty), I still find myself recommending the Nexus 7. It's a solid tablet and performs wonderfully. The price point is good and, do I dare say, it's quite durable. It sure did well against the iPad in drop tests. I can't help but to think that the users out there with screen cracks likely had a unit with an improperly mounted screen. Reason I say that is the way it cracked. It needs to have some degree of force for the screen to crack. If it wasn't dropped, where did the force come from? It had to be from an improperly mounted screen, forcing the screen to "buckle" and thereby be subjected to continual force until it finally gave way. Just my theory at least.

But in all sincerity, if this forum would have been enough to deter you from purchasing a Nexus 7, do yourself a favor and stay away from all internet forums. For some fun comparisons, Google "iPad screen crack" and see what you dig up. You might be surprised, as a lot of the N7's issues you may have read about here aren't new or exclusive. :good:
[Nexus 7 General] sparksd:
I work with a lot of "tech nerds" in a s/w engineering environment and we have had similar discussions in the past - if you were to read associated forums before making a tech purchase, you may never buy anything. And I have found this to be true for not just computers, tablets, etc but for virtually all consumer electronics, e.g. smartphones, TVs, Blu-Ray players, audio receivers, even photo gear - read the forums and they will scare you off as everything appears broken. And always wait because shortly, a newer version is just around the corner.
[Nexus 7 General] dparrothead1:
http://news.sky.com/story/995063/t3-gadget-awards-nexus-7-wins-top-honour
[Nexus 7 General] Protibus:
I only have one thing to say. I bought the Nexus 7 and have had no problems at all with it. Speed is great, size is perfect, lots of excellent ROMs to choose from for it. Lovin every minute using it.
[Nexus 7 General] Switchbitch:
Exactly, there is absolutely no reason to close the thread and I have no idea why it was reported in the first place anyway. The only people getting upset here are those that claim to have perfect units. No-one is being called a liar, they are merely having their reports of perfection scrutinized in a perfectly rational manner. If I had a perfect unit and many others were complaining about having several faulty ones in a row, I would concede that there is a manufacturing issue and would consider myself extremely lucky. I wouldn't get upset about other people complaining, as I would be perfectly happy with what I bought. I have no idea why people are taking it personally; if anyone has a perfect unit then good for them, they should ignore this thread.

I still don't regret buying the Nexus as there's no alternative to it (and it's great if you can ignore the faults). If it had a direct competitor at the same price with the same specs then yes, I would be seriously pissed off that I bought the Nexus and would have exchanged it for the alternative device after the second broken unit. If I can't get a faultless unit by the time a decent alternative 7-inch is released (and there will be one very soon), then I will be dropping the Nexus like a hot brick.
[Nexus 7 General] Doraso:
Hi!

I went through 5 units before getting one without creaking glass and screen lift. My current unit does not have screen lift but the bezel is not as firmly attached as the other units I had. The result of this is that I makes some creaking, popping noises when I hold the device in theese areas. Nothing I will return it for but the build quality of the Nexus 7 is not good. Otherwise I love my Nexus 7. The unit has something about it that made me go through returning 5 units :)
[Nexus 7 General] AirBoss24K:
It's stuff like what you're saying here that's encouraging me to buy one. I'm a fix-it-up kind of guy, so if I really had a problem with it, I can't say for sure that I'd take it back unless it was a serious problem like the one guy who was having an issue multitasking. If I ran into that problem and went through all the troubleshooting he did, I would have hit the return to sender button on that unit, but a creaky glass issue? Meh, for $200 I could deal with that and might even consider trying to fix it on my own with some of the helpful tips that people have provided elsewhere on these forums.
[Nexus 7 General] carrsi:
Sold my iPad 2 and I got my N7 last week. No regret - it's an amazing device! :)
[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
I hear ya. If you buy into every single review, you'll never buy anything. I work in IT, so reading reviews and news is a continual thing with me. I have to constantly weed out the reviews to determine which ones are legitimate and which ones are fake. Two weeks ago I bought one of the most terrible Nexus 7 cases that exists. The only compelling thing was there were two reviews for it, both of which said 5/5 stars. But reading them, I knew they were fake. But I was curious enough to buy the product and see. I cannot put into words how terrible this product was. I even posted a review, calling out the other two reviews as fakes. It's a good read if you have a few moments.

You're definitely right about it spanning out further than electronics as well. Here's a recent scenario that my fiance and I recently ran into. She was having second thoughts about the hotel we're staying at for our honeymoon that we're leaving for in less than a week. When I asked why, she brought up the reviews. Granted, there were a handful of negative reviews out there (like a 1 to 25 ratio of bad vs good), but when I Googled the hotel name all that came up was "hotel of the month" and "this hotel wins yet another luxury award", etc. The hotel was designed so every room in the place is beach front with amazing views. Some reviews were negative because of the weather. But wait, how can you dock a hotel points because of weather? Don't ask me - I was just as confused. Point is, even things that are boasted about as being "top end" can still have some people unsatisfied with the product or the service. And sure, maybe it's a little dissimilar to compare a hotel service versus a product (or is it?), because I know some of the N7 issues out there are with users who have legitimate issues. Like I said - my screen cracked without me dropping it. But I called ASUS several times before they even received it just to remind them in a semi pushy manner that I will not be paying for the repair. Sure enough, they fixed it.

Despite my issues, I'd still easily recommend the Nexus 7 as one of the finest tablets on the market. :good:
[Nexus 7 General] lanwarrior:
I love my N7, but the lagginess issue is wearing me down...
[Nexus 7 General] damagedgoods:
Hey don't knock Chinese dudes in basements. That's who makes all my smack. :P

Got my Nexus 7 (C90) a couple of days ago as a free gift from Carphone. The built quality is excellent. Sure there are some software glitches but I blame most of those on Jelly Bean. I'm pretty sure a quick read of the forums here will solve most of them, like it has with all my devices. My only complaint is the single speaker but hey I knew that before I got it. I don't even need to buy a case as I've pikeyed the Kindle case off the missus.
[Nexus 7 General] lanwarrior:
Is this you crying over the N7?
[Nexus 7 General] Reno Skyy:
HAd myne for 5 days and I love it to death berly even touch my gnex any more
[Nexus 7 General] adamdavidson:
I'm the same way, I have an S3 and it's taken the backseat since I got my N7. It's pretty much texts/phone/tethering now.

Also, question, how do you use your N7 for texting? I live in Canada and would like to text from my own phone number on my tablet.
[Nexus 7 General] metalwraith:
someone i know bought one of those tablets you mentioned i think it was a "Coby" brand... typically doing cheap dvd, cd vcr players, etc.... they thought they were getting the best tablet around... they live down south and drive about 2hrs to get it... i just shook my head and rolled my eyes....
[Nexus 7 General] lanwarrior:
I use Google Voice app for both my Note and Nexus 7. Works wonder!

No MMS though...
[Nexus 7 General] steve1time:
Its 200 pounds in the U.K. not Dollars and thats not a small sum of money I am using it more than my laptop now though. I,ve now fixxed the screen issue myself. my point is if you purchesed a tv for 200 british pounds 'not sure how much that is in us dollars' and that developed known faults should we just say ah it was only cheap so it don't matter.
[Nexus 7 General] steve1time:
So you never ever reley on reviews or word of mouth ? Thats just being arrogant.
[Nexus 7 General] margaretiak:
So got my 4th n7 so hope so it will be the best one;)
[Nexus 7 General] BrianDigital:
your also not correct, I have recommended this tablet to friends and family, they have each bought them at different times and different stores. No one has a problem or screen lift, so they are not ALL faulty
[Nexus 7 General] ÜBER™:
No its the "*****, please" meme.

Sent From My N7 via White Tapatalk
[Nexus 7 General] styckx:
Pfft. I know a genuine Panaphonics when I see it. And look, there’s Magnetbox and Sorny.