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[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/06/sony-xperia-z-spotted-early-on-ces-show-floor/
[Xperia Z General] lukesjeans:
Here's a closer look as well https://mobile.twitter.com/briantong/status/288049737838493698/photo/1
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
OH DEAR GOD why is it so

sexy

:D
[Xperia Z General] jonleyo:
Bigger Xperia t without the arc style...
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
Mystery Solved***

Xperia Z (yuga) has its own capture key

Comes in black white and purple

Google Translate: After images of Xperia Z black pretty clear in the past and reveal the white from Xperia Poland, the images of 3 color Xperia Z appears, and questions about the shooting button own you also have to be answered as many questions.

Specific Xperia Z (Yuga) has three black, white and purple (grape) pretty fancy video camera next to the hips and appear slightly flattened seeds with key press on Xperia ZL (Odin). Only about 22h before Sony event at CES 2013, we will re-filled in its new products.

http://sonyviet.vn/2013/01/xperia-z-co-3-mau-den-trang-va-tim-co-phim-chup-hinh-rieng/

Im starting to think the Power Button is a bit too high up.

.__________.
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
Sounds good - but somebody pointed the button is actually the speaker...
[Xperia Z General] gbil:
There is NO button for the camera. What you see at the bottom of the right side is indeed the speaker.
[Xperia Z General] Gregz78:
It's not a speaker, those are the charging nodes like on the Acro S

-> In reality, they are on the middle - upper part on the left side... sorry:p
[Xperia Z General] gbil:
Yep those are dock-like contacts.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
It looks like XPERIA C650X 'ODIN' is being changed to C670X and will be the H2 flagship releasing in June/July.
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
What's your source for this?
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
A Sony insider at the CES. Supposedly it is a last minute change.
[Xperia Z General] anishs:
Please be wrong.
[Xperia Z General] andreasa64:
If thats true, then i will get the Sony Xperia V insteed. Can´t wait 6 months on that phone..
[Xperia Z General] Rycon33:
if it's on H2, it would be nice if they can put quad-core A15 CPU inside already there instead of the current A9 in Z :D
[Xperia Z General] Norair:
Good news Guys

Sony has something special at CES in Xperia Z...sorry but i can't say
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
If he is right, this thread title will have to be changed accordingly with the C650X 'ODIN' bit being changed to C670X 'ODIN' (Xperia ZL). Oh, and by the way, the ZL (ODIN) is better than the Z (YUGA).

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What's H2?? :confused: ?

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Still deciding myself here between the Sony Xperia V and the Sony Xperia ZL (ODIN)
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Qualcomm APQ8064 is not A9 it is a custom design very close to A15. A15 is to power hungry. Look at the Nexus 10 and what size battery it has. Even with the large battery the battery life is not the best.

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H2 = Q3/Q4 second half of the year.

I want Odin as well because of the small footprint.
[Xperia Z General] Rycon33:
lol :D 2nd half of the year, same as q1 q2 etc... 1st quarter, 2nd quarter

A9 core-architecture will be old news at that time, A15 will rule this 2013
[Xperia Z General] darth5zaft:
So will Odin have an IR blaster or not?
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
Small footprint?? :confused: ? Could you clarify what you mean by that please? (Sorry, don't wish to sound :silly: )
[Xperia Z General] Knight77:
Sorry I don't remember but when should Sony officialy unveil the phone? I mean tonight? Tomorrow? time?

EDIT: found official countdown http://blog.sony.com/ces/
[Xperia Z General] Rycon33:
same 5-inch display as the Z but with smaller bezel(especially the top and bottom), so the actual physical size of ZL(odin) will be smaller than the Z

see the slight size difference here http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/01/sony-xperia-z-and-xperia-zl-side-by-side/
[Xperia Z General] anishs:
Releasing it in H2 is crazy.. I wanted ODIN because it had smaller bezels and it got rid of the waterproofing for a camera button and other things.

Mainly I wanted it because of the Smaller Bezel...
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
Would have clicked 'thanks' but it said I ran out of 'thanks' for today?!? :confused: Thanks! :p Anyway, how do the ZL (Odin) 's dimensions compare to the Sony Xperia V's 129 x 65 x 10.7 mm (5.08 x 2.56 x 0.42 in) dimensions? Thanks
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
I highly, highly doubt that. Would be illogical since the Z and ZL are basically the same phone in a slightly different shell.
[Xperia Z General] Rycon33:
we will know tomorrow at least for the Z, but I think ZL will be launched together as well (or at least will be mentioned aslo)

we'll see
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
It will have a 5" screen and be smaller than GS3 and about the same size as Xperia Ion. The front of the phone will almost be display only.
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
Again, I would have clicked thanks here, but it said I've run out of 'thanks' :confused: The main reason I was initially going to go for the Sony Xperia V instead of a 5 inch phone like the Sony Xperia XL (Odin) is because I have heard that the GS3 has a huge monster size. But if what you're saying is accurate, the Sony Xperia XL should have/be extremely close to these dimensions: 133 x 68 x 10.8 mm (5.24 x 2.68 x 0.43 in) - those are the Ion's. And that would be smaller than the Galaxy S3's overall size but with a bigger screen AND better specs than the Sony Xperia V too!! :D Awesome!
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
That is the reason why Sony is pulling Odin(if true). It would be competing with Yuga. Like you said it is the same phone in a different shell.

Why have two identical flagships?
[Xperia Z General] anishs:
Because they might be for two different markets like the Xperia T/TX/V/TL Right?

The waterproof Yuga was supposed to be for Asia and Odin was supposed to be for North America. This made sense because Sony never launched a water proof phone in NA, even the ads they released for waterproof phones were Japanese.

I don't know, lets wait till the presentation later on today.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
That's contrary to my info regarding US release dates for the Odin. Will find out more this week.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
I sure hope that your info is more accurate.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Together they have a bigger production capacity and more choice to offer to customers is always a good thing - especially when it doesn't go at the cost of different SoC sets.

What I'm hearing from my people in Sony is that both are still set to launch tonight and hit the market without all that much intermission.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
I sure hope you are right :laugh:
[Xperia Z General] Norair:
Guys wait just 4 hours and 30 minutes...i promise you these phones are something special
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Both are coming to the US.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Oh I really can't wait 'till I can get my hands on one of these! There hasn't been a single phone on the market - ever - with a spec set this impressive. Top-notch performance, an extremely sharp and good display, awesome design, really nice materials, waterproof, ...
[Xperia Z General] Gregz78:
Chinese manufacturers are preparing phones with the same hardware 3-6 months to come ? With a price of 350-400 $ ?

Perhaps i'm dreaming but Sony has to put his little magic in this, to transform those phones in something different ....

Cloud gaming, Wii-U like game experience with PS3 / Vita ? Who knows :confused:
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
I have nothing against Chinese, I'm Chinese myself and I can't trust any Chinese companies. And yes I know most phones are assembled there. On top of that they are just not major players in the game atm. Nearly everyone are focused on sam apple Sony htc and that's it.

And I thought there were news that brands like zte have issues or something, Chinese government spying north America. Read it somewhere. Lol
[Xperia Z General] Gregz78:
Official : Huawei Ascend D2 quad core 1.5ghz , 1080p display, water and dustproof, 3,000mAh battery

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/huawei-ascend-d2-official-5-inch-1080p-display-1-5ghz-quad-cor/

Don't know the price but... come on Sony, do something different :)
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
XPERIA Z PICTURES LEAKED. Looks nice

http://www.digi-wo.com/article-31-1.html
[Xperia Z General] anishs:
Yes! No one is happier than me hearing this :victory:
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
I doubt any random Chinese manufacturer can make a phone as

thin

and powerful as this, including the waterproof stuff (without sacrificing battery life or performance). Sony has some brilliant engineers and designers, they can pull off Apple-like hardware stunts.
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
What's your source? And also, what about the UK?
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
He is the source :P If Spectre51 says something about US availability (on AT&T) it's pretty much always true.

UK should have the Z, maybe the ZL at a slightly lower cost slightly later too but that I'm not sure about.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
ZL specs

http://developer.sonymobile.com/products/phones/specification/xperiazl/
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Not playing the "No ZL today" card anymore now, are we :P

Z specs: http://developer.sonymobile.com/products/phones/specification/xperiaz/

ZL specs: http://developer.sonymobile.com/products/phones/specification/xperiazl/
[Xperia Z General] Funk2641:
So is the ZL the North American version? Judging by the network bands, it is
[Xperia Z General] MaskedMagi:
Sony Xperia Z officially revealed, all the leaked specs seem to have held true. Special battery mode promises up to four hours extra standby time too. Let's hope that turns out to be accurate...

2330mAh battery doesn't seem to be removeable, but at least there's a microSD. Shatterproof film over tempered glass sounds promising too :)

http://www.stuff.tv/news/ces/ces/so...peria-z-with-5in-1080p-screen-and-13mp-camera
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
So confirmed - bye bye camera button for Z. Stupid Sony.

Now let's just hope ZL will be available in Europe too.

That's the phone for me.
[Xperia Z General] lukesjeans:
Sony removed a lot and I actually am not liking the new ui. Where's timescape? Z is beautiful tho.
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
What has changed in new UI?
[Xperia Z General] lukesjeans:
Lock screen ...... Themes ......I'm coming from arc so I may be behind a bit but timescape! Geez ....still, its better than touchwiz
[Xperia Z General] brangalm:
Z is a beautiful phone, although I kind of like the camera button and dimensions of the ZL better. Also the bezel on the ZL is awesome, so thin!

Either way, no removal battery :( although close to 2400mAh. We'll have to see how these hold up in real life performance.

Don't care much about the UI as I'll be flashing CM on it anyways.

Gooooo Sony!
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
So... That OLED TV demo...lol

But I'm really excited for these phones. I wonder which one will come out in Canada.

EDIT

Just found out via Sony Mobile Canada on Facebook we will be getting the ZL. No carrier info or release dates.
[Xperia Z General] AK4TAY7BEN:
Now comes the tough decision deciding between the two :eek:
[Xperia Z General] papped:
Easy for me, ZL because of the 1700mhz umts.
[Xperia Z General] AK4TAY7BEN:
Hm the ZL seems more T-Mobile friendly and is upgradable to 64gb via sd card. It also has a slightly bigger battery... but I really like the Z's waterproof features. I'll just have to see how it plays out
[Xperia Z General] anishs:
I seriously want to thank you for all the info you've given throughout this thread, and I was a sort of right only the ZL will be making an apperance in Canada (which is what matters to me and I preffered that model :victory:) .

The only thing that I might have an issue with is the small back cover which looks kind of flimsy (I might play with it too much and make it loose :/ ).

Apart from that the ZL specifications look pretty much identical to the Z. Maybe the two models will have minor camera differences? it seems to be the case because the Sony website says that the Z has a 13.1 MP camera and the ZL has 13 MP. The Z has a 2.2 MP front camera, the ZL has a 2 MP front camera. That shouldn't be anything major.

Now as long as the release date is what you've already indicated earlier in this thread then this is definitely my new phone!

Thank you!
[Xperia Z General] Funk2641:
There's a biiig difference, only the ZL works with US/Canada 3g/LTE. That pretty much makes your decision for you
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDS3Nf75NhI&feature=player_embedded

ZL
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
Spec said they are both coming to the US though.

If ZL coming with full LTE, and Z only 2G then theres really no point for Z. I checked out the network frequencies, doesnt work here in Canada.

Im confused.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
NP...release date on the ZL from the last info I got was still early March. Z on the other hand well there is lots going on with it. Might still be March, might not be till June, might be available unlocked, might be carrier exclusive. This is US availability only I am talking about. If I get more info I will share.I am so hoping for it not to be a carrier exclusive. I want an unlocked Z...of course I want the ZL too. Fingers crossed.

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I don't have info about the UK as my contact only has info regarding US releases. But his info is and has proven reliable.

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Funny enough its still possible T-Mobile might be picking up the Z. And actually the Z has the bigger battery if I remember right, only slightly bigger though.
[Xperia Z General] Amritttt:
Still i feel its out dated there is new Qualcomm snapdragon 600 & 800 and xperia is snapdragon 400 but it looks awesome might buy xperia z
[Xperia Z General] Knight77:
So for Europe only Z right? :(

Inviato dal mio Nexus 7 con Tapatalk 2
[Xperia Z General] -A-P-M-:
Xperia Z with dimensions of ZL would be great. Also I have seen somewhere that it will be available in March. That means in about 3 - 4 months. I hoped it would be released in January because Im really tempted to buy it. But in time when Xperia Z will be available, there will be HTC M7, SGS4... with probably better specs, newer Android (4.2 out of a box)...
[Xperia Z General] heorung:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ktIhuJA_92I

The Xperia Z is gonna be my next phone for sure
[Xperia Z General] gadget_lova:
Xperia ZL has captured my heart.

5" screen with a body smaller than galaxy s3.

Has micro SD and all the feature that high end phone should have.

It will be a true upgrade fromy galaxy nexus.

I just hope that it will have pentaband in its international version
[Xperia Z General] Knight77:
Any confirm about the IR Blaster function on these phones? Or anyway on the Z ?
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
For me really bad news.

Z is a global device, ZL is for selected markets. How stupid is that?

Why those idiots had to remove camera button from Z?

As I see from Sony's websites, ZL is visible in USA, Canada, Australia,

in Europe - strangely - Portugal, Belgium..

If ZL won't be widely available than screw you Sony.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
IR remote is built into the ZL not the Z.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ ion
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
The Sony Xperia Z specs look better than the Sony Xperia ZL specs, but I am concerned about the fact that the Sony Xperia Z appears to lack shatter proof and scratch-resistant glass. The Sony Xperia Z is due to be released Exp. release Q2 of 2013, whereas the Sony Xperia V is technically speaking available (although it is yet to officially come to the UK - will be sometime this month from what I've heard). The Sony Xperia Z's dimensions are 139 x 71 x 7.9 mm (5.47 x 2.80 x 0.31 in), with a 5 inch screen; whereas the Sony Xperia V's dimensions are 129 x 65 x 10.7 mm (5.08 x 2.56 x 0.42 in) with a 4.3 inch screen. Basically, despite the fact that more screen real estate in "phablet" like the Sony Xperia Z is useful, I am worried it might be "too big" compared to the Sony Xperia V. The Sony Xperia V does appear to have scratch-resistant glass though - and it also uses slightly different LTE to the Sony Xperia Z. The Sony Xperia V uses LTE 800 / 850 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600, whereas the Sony Xperia Z uses LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600. I know that 4G is still emerging on different mobile networks here in the Uk. But bearing every single one of these these points here in mind, I don't know which to go for, based on these points I've made here. Can anyone help me please?

Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5204&idPhone2=4958
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
Sony C6603 ‘Yuga’ pictures leak

Photos added to OP
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
Very true again.

Hopefully for the battery it's a long lasting battery. Nothing we can do about the 5 inch screen. Hopefully its not too thick on the sides I guess.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Yuga and Odin have the same internals but different designs. I sort of expect the Odin to look either more Arcy or more NXT-like (but without the transparant bar - it'd make the handset waaaay too long).
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Does anybody have any idea on the size of the phone? From the leaked pics, it looks like a large device.

The bezel is not as small as the rumors anticipated it to be.
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
I doubt they have the size out yet, no one knows if this is the final design.

Tx has a 4.6 inch screen and in my opinion it's pretty big already. So with a 5 inch, it would be bigger than tx dimension.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
I understand that the final size may change but the initial rumors were suggesting that the phone will be the same size as the ION with a bigger screen and a very small bezel.

The Dimensions for a 4.6" screen are Screen width = 4.01 Screen height = 2.26 and for a 5" screen Screen width = 4.36 Screen height = 2.45. That alone will make the phone a lot larger. The xperia Ion is 5.23" x 2.67". Theoretically the 5" screen would fit into its body.

We will see what the final product looks like.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Thats what I have been told so far. ion sized with 5" screen for odin, front and back glass. quad core CPU 1080P screen.

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I showed that to my friend at Sony and the only reply I got was, "No comment :)"

Take that for what you will.
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
No comment is very encouraging! lol :good:
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Based on ESATO members the pics are 100% Yuga and the back may not be glass even though it looks like glass. :confused:
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
I don't have info on the design of the Yuga, I was only commenting on design of the Odin and saying that when I showed the Yuga leaked pics to a Sony contact he said, "No comment :)"
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Anyone have any guesses on when the rumoured 6" phone will be announced in relation to the 5" Yuga/Odin? Unless Sony decides to push a Vita phone forward, one of these phones will be my next one. Can't wait!
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Interesting speaker/microphone placement. Symmetrical design. I wonder if they're actually stereo speakers?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Yuga= 1.5ghz, 2gb ram, water & dust resistant 2400mAh battery.

Odin same design from what I could see 2370mAh battery didn't see the rest of the specs but should be same CPU speed possibly ram as well.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
So no real difference then? Which is the real flagship Yuga or Odin?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Looking at them I would say Yuga with the bigger battery and water/dust resistance. Will try to find out more about the differences. Either way they look amazing.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Okay got to see some info. The Odin is slightly smaller dimensions but barely. Same CPU. s4 Pro quad core 1.5ghz 2gb ram. Both will have exmor camera sensor and do 1080p hdr video.

Only real difference I could see was the battery elements resistance of the yuga and the yuga has something called digital touch that wasn't listed for the odin. Not sure what that is. Yuga will be the flagship. These phones look amazing. So looking forward to them. Yuga is calling my name.

Kinda interesting though how similar these two devices are.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
Awesome thanks! Yeah I am surprised as to why Sony is doing that (T vs TX) and now Odin and Yuga. Not much difference. I assume both have a 1080p display?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Yep both a 5" 1080p display. Both glass front and back (shatter proof film both sides)

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Spectre51, thanks for the details.

What will be available in the US and when?

Can you post the dimensions of both?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Not sure what will come to the US but should be March/April timeframe. I'll see if I can get the dimensions again, didn't manage to write them down earlier.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
[Xperia Z General] -A-P-M-:
So Sony Xperia Z doesn't have Dragontrail glass ? Thats bad news...

Xperia ZL will be available in EU?
[Xperia Z General] anishs:
Yes I remember that you said it was around late feb/early March.

Apparently Sony Mobile USA will be launching the Z unlike Canada.

Actually all indications before the launch were that the Z will have the bigger battery although that isn't what they announced.

The ZL will have a 2370 mAh battery and the Z will have a 2330 mAh battery Gizmodo and Engadget confirmed this.

May I ask why you prefer the Z over the ZL? I feel like I might prefer the ZL because of the smaller bezels (very important to me) and the uncovered ports. The covered ports on the Z might be annoying (however useful they maybe) especially with the headphone jack. Although from the pictures the Z looks just a tad better from the sides and back than the ZL. The white ZL looks a little non-premium in white when you compare it to the Z because Z has that beautiful glass back.

The ZL looks much better in black!
[Xperia Z General] HYPER-X10:
I know it says it in specs but has this been confirmed?

I have seen no mention or display of this function in any review or promotional material so far. Why wouldn't they promote this feature? Also, I cant see an ir led anywhere?

Thanks for all the info you have shared :)
[Xperia Z General] -A-P-M-:
This is disappointing that ZL doesn't have premium materials like Z . They should rather offer one device which would be true flagship. ZL, with glass on back (like Z got) would be probably smallest 5" phone with top - premium materials. Now we can choose between premium materials vs compact size. Also good question is which one will get CM support, because I don't want to wait for sony to update a phones...
[Xperia Z General] ThilinaC:
Time to upgrade from my S3 to Xperia Z :D damn its been only 3 months but design of Z is too much to let it pass & S3 resale value is still lot high here ;) + ugly sudden death issue of s3

but only concern is 2300mAh battery of Z.I am not sure a 2300mAh will be enough to handle a 5" without charging daily :/ even 2100mAh of my current S3 won't stand more than a day with heavy use with its 4.8" screen.Also wtf is with March release :eek: sony gonna loose the competition again due to same reason.
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
Anyone able to help please? : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36436374&postcount=380