yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
So, at the end it means that Xperia Z will actually work on our LTE? Well, anyway, thanks for your explanation. You've been more helpful than any other people I talked to.
[Xperia Z General] jatt101:
So the xperia z only supports one of Rogers LTE bands, would that cause any problems?
[Xperia Z General] crookx:
Would also love to know if the xperia z can work on Rogers bands lte or 3g.
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
I dont think it will work. Only 3G or H+ will work for C6602 (the one without LTE)

C6603 is missing Band II 1900.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/08/xperia-z-white-paper-confirms-lte-c6603-and-hspa-c6602-versions/
[Xperia Z General] jatt101:
Wouldn't it be able to partially operate on one band only?
[Xperia Z General] Funk2641:
Yeah, the 850 3G band
[Xperia Z General] jatt101:
So technically it still would work with Rogers because it has one of the bands it operates it on. But I'm confused, if that's the case, then why would you need two bands and why wouldn't Sony release the phone in Canada
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Yes, it would. You would only get service in the areas that use the one band. There would be no service in areas that use the other band.
[Xperia Z General] crookx:
Thanks, i guess i either get the xperia z without lte or go for the zl.
[Xperia Z General] charliechocolate:
so disappointed about the xperia z and canada conflict.. really wanted this as my next phone :(
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
Huh? I thought the Xperia Z WAS the 4G LTE version and the Xperia ZL was the normal 3G phone? :S ?

Besides, does anyone know if the C660x model/version of the Xperia Z that o2-uk will be selling, will be the 4G LTE version??

Many thanks,
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
You're completely wrong. ZL is a different phone (same specs, different design).
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
In that case, which of the two is the better one?
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
I'd say Z, for better design, better from facing camera and water proof. ZL, on the other side, is almost the same size as S, with same specs as Z, has a IR blaster and maybe better compatibility with your carrier.
[Xperia Z General] shadym1lkman:
FFC

Exmor R*:

Z: 2.2MPx @ 1080p

ZL: 2MPx @ 1080p

*edit: thanks @DdcCabuslay on the correction on the sensor.
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

I thought the FFC was Exmor R not RS.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
There are different versions of both phones.

In Europe the C6603 will be sold, which works on all European GSM, UMTS (3G), HSPA and LTE networks.
[Xperia Z General] dzadzev:
Xperia JB boot animation
[Xperia Z General] goothu99:
looks like all 2013 phones will be having a non-replaceable battery
[Xperia Z General] lukesjeans:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Just thought of something....what's the cosmic flow live wallpaper look like? New theme?
[Xperia Z General] augie7107:
Place in system/media if rooted
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Same as the old.
[Xperia Z General] lukesjeans:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Darn, thought it would look cool with new theme scheme.
[Xperia Z General] KP_:
Hmmm, there's a rumor floating around that the Z will get a big brother in the form of a Sony Tablet Z. Current rumored specs are 1.5GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 CPU, 2GB of RAM, a 1920x1200 resolution screen, Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, 32GB of storage, water and dust resistance and a 6000mAh battery all in a 6.9mm thick shell (probably shaped like the Tablet S though)

Seems like Sony really wants to make a dent in my savings account :D
[Xperia Z General] thejosetree:
Breaking news
[Xperia Z General] Gregz78:
more and more products with the same hardware... Perhaps Sony is gonna have a good update politics in the near future
[Xperia Z General] KP_:
Yeah, about this, GSMArena reported that Sony plans to update the Xperia Z with Android 4.2 JB soon after launch. How soon was not specified and remains to be seen. I'm not overly optimistic though.

However, right now the lack of news about the ZL worries me more than Sony's update policy :(
[Xperia Z General] ThilinaC:
Anyone remembers what happened with Xperia S and update of gingerbread to ics won't be that much optimistic,but hopefully sony surprises all of us by giving fast updates to 2013 Xperia series starting with Xperia Z.Otherwise in profit & customer satisfaction point of view their target to compete in the high end smart phone league won't do them that much good considering rivaling companies speed of updating their high end devices to the latest android versions !
[Xperia Z General] windozeanti:
They need timely software updates to beat Samsung.
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

I was wondering where this thread went

But I question why Sony wants to release the XTZ so early in the year and practically overshadow the XTS.

Also it seems like we'll be able to calibrate the display on the Z/ZL.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/1...tware/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
[Xperia Z General] shadym1lkman:
Excellent, good way to fix the washout.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Sony Xperia Z GETTING ABUSED
[Xperia Z General] taxas:
Does any one know what kind of screen it uses? Super lcd 2? tft ??
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Neo IPS
[Xperia Z General] taxas:
neo ips? what is that? have any links?
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

No links, but I think it's like the SLCD3.
[Xperia Z General] taxas:
cant find anywhere stating that it uses SLCD3 in the matter of fact i cant any info about the display. and when i say Info i mean hard evidence not just something someone said that he/she thinks
[Xperia Z General] vinnyjr:
Love this phone, has great specs. The only spec I have not seen a lock on was the interior memory. Most of the good phones that are coming out are limited to 16mb of int memory with few having sd card support. The only company that is giving the customer a larger memory is Samsung. My SGS3 has 32gb of int memory with ext sd card support. Love this in any top notch device, anything less is not enough. If the phone does not come with sd card support then I would hope it has 64gb of int memory. If it comes with ext sd card support then I want a minimum of 32gb of int memory. I did not buy the Note 2 because the US version only comes with 16gb of int memory and sd card support, after the OS you are left with less than 10gb of int memory and that is not nearly enough with the large volume of memory that todays apps and games require. Please give this new device plenty of int memory and ext sd card support. 64gb of int memory with sd card support would make this beast sell, sell and sell.

Thank You Sony.
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

I said I think, but I forgot to add the "its the same as". Check XperiaBlog. It should have the right info.

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It is just like XT. 16 Gb internal + External card support. I agree that the internal could have been 32 or even 64 Gb, but.
[Xperia Z General] katamari201:
The display iS NOT, I repeat, NOT IPS. All IPS screens have 170+ degree viewing angles. That's sort of the whole point of IPS. The display on the Xperia Z has poor viewing angles, especially when you look at it with a corner pointing towards you. The whole screen turns white and washes out. Many reviewers have commented on the poor viewing angles, saying it looks like a cheap budget device when sitting at a table. I don't even need to read their comments. I can see it clearly in all the pictures and videos, when it isn't PREFECTLY dead on. People do use their phones at different angles, and it is constantly being moved around since it is a mobile device after all, so the poor viewing angles and washout are very noticeable.

Sony is really pissing me off again. I like their phones, but the screens always break the deal. I just returned an Xperia P to Amazon because the washout and white glow just killed it for me. The screen reminded me of the first Sony phone I bought and returned 5 years ago. It was one of those music bar phones with rice shaped buttons. Why Sony is still ignoring the competition is beyond me. Everyone uses IPS now. Even Huawei and Oppo, arguably knockoff brands, are using the same 1080p IPS screen of the Droid DNA. I would rather have the Xperia Z over the Oppo Find 5, but considering the Find 5 will be released much sooner, have a much superior screen, and has the exact same Exmor RS camera, that sexy glass body of the Xperia Z isn't enough to mitigate that awful screen, in 2013 no less. I hope LG releases their 5" 1080p phone soon.
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Well, firstly it's what some truthful insiders are saying. Second, look at this:

You think that is bad? I think you, just like many other people, are complaining with the mouth full.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Guys,

Lets keep single thread for Xperia Latest n Upcoming ranges please..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1641113

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] mharckk:
damn. xperia z is sexy, now im confused if im going to upgrade from XPS to XPZ :D.

im thinking of saving money this year. :)
[Xperia Z General] Drike19:
Anyone know which model will come to the US? I have tried to do some research but have come up empty.

I'm hoping to get the ZL because I like the small footprint of the ZL and I dont need it to be water or dustproof.
[Xperia Z General] romiros:
Sony use this display => http://auo.com/?sn=149&lang=en-US&c=36&n=204 in Xparia Z. LCD TFT with good quality. Not IPS. ;)

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Do you look here?

http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/phones/
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

US will get both Z n ZL

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] Drike19:
Is there a source to confirm this? Not that I don't believe you, I just want to be sure.
[Xperia Z General] ichigo786:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Sorry quick question.

Do the Z & ZL models come with removable batteries?

Also what are the differences between the Z & ZL?

Any idea on UK pricing or release date?

Thanks
[Xperia Z General] dontbelive:
AW: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Xperia Z is almost with glass (back , sides , front , up , down )

And xperia ZL is with plastic back cover and remove able battery

Z is water , sand resistent

Sry for my english :S
[Xperia Z General] DdcCabuslay:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Wait I thought ZL battery isn't removable.

Edit

It isn't

http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_zl-5203.php
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/phones/
[Xperia Z General] ichigo786:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Damn shame about the non removable batteries for both the Z & ZL.

Freaking unbelievable!! Well I'm off to find another phone, really is a shame because I really was beginning to like the Z.

P. S. Thanks for the replies above guys / gals.
[Xperia Z General] z.o.cc:
Xperia Z display

about display sony Z/ZL it's a neo-ips japan display, no doubt about it.

www j-display.com/english/news/2012/20121004.html

443 ppi as sony spec.

500 cd/m2 as sony spec.

thinner LCD, sony said zero air gap design in their promo video...

narrow frame ...

about view angle is only +160 not the best respect other IPS... but equal angle "> 160 degrees, top/bottom and left/right" prove that it's a IPS.

I've heard that also the OptiContrast influence the viewing angle.
[Xperia Z General] KP_:
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble but http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z/specifications/#tabs says both Z and ZL have TFT panels :(
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Every display is TFT. There are different TFT display technologies.

Panel Technologies TN Film, MVA, PVA and IPS Explained
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Sry bt why everyone wants removable batteries? How long u use the phone? 1year, right..just use for 1 year n then change the phone !!

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] KP_:
Thanks for this. Guess I can learn something new each day :D
[Xperia Z General] Brac20:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

For anyone wondering about the screen quality here is a quote from android central's hands on.

"Some Sony displays have suffered from washed-out colors and poor viewing angles, but the Xperia Z seems to have made some strides in this area. The Z’s viewing angles didn’t seem quite as wide as the Droid DNA we brought along for a side-by-side comparison, but it’s still a great-looking display."

I LOVE the screen on my One X so it'll have to pretty decent for me to switch. Fingers crossed.
[Xperia Z General] Felimenta97:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Some people stay with the same phone for more then 1 year...
[Xperia Z General] arcwindz:
2 years at the very least, 3 years preferably. Even more if it can still do most tasks that 'recent' gadget can do. Why would you spent so much on high-end just to change it in one year lol. It is there to stay, for me at least
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
I really to want to buy the Z, I just hope the display wont suffer from having a yellowish look to it on a white background, like with the Xperia S.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
France to Receive Xperia Z in Late February, No Xperia ZL
[Xperia Z General] Norair:
Xperia Z iPhone5 Display Comparison

two picture to see how Xperia Z competes with the iP5
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
Z looks amazing in these images, im sure in reality it would be even better than ip5 etc.
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
Xperia Z passes through the FCC

The Sony Xperia Z has passed through the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) revealing a bunch of teardown photos and even the handset’s start-up guide. The C6602 HSPA+ model is the one that is involved in the tests, rather than the LTE C6603 model.

What we learn from some of the pictures is that the handset will include a linear oscillating vibrator for vibration duties rather than the harsher rotational vibrator. Another factor we note is that the battery looks like it will be tricky to remove and replace, unlike the Xperia S which also had an embedded battery. You can check out the full FCC documents here.

Thanks Dacha!
[Xperia Z General] Rubenos:
Guys, does the Z has IPS or not? Any sources except for the Sony site? Because I really thought it had IPS
[Xperia Z General] mmisep:
Sony site is not enough?
[Xperia Z General] Warhero141:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Any comparisons with the bravia engine 2 disabled?

Because most people do a lot more besides watching videos and looking at pictures on their smartphone.

Kinda biased comparison IMO.
[Xperia Z General] Brac20:
Is IPS a must?

I admit the screen is the best thing about my One X. But does it matter if you can't view it at a weird angle? I use my phone head on.

Other than viewing angle what other benefits do IPS screens offer?
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

It has been explained more then once around here by my fellow Belgian Ambroos ;)

Xperia Z has an IPS screen. All IPS screens are TFT screens, sony just can't call it IPS due to copyright restrictions
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
looks like the US is getting the HSPA+ model :(
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Yes, and the ZL LTE model.
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
Sony Xperia Z offered with free wireless speaker in the UK : http://wp.me/peL1j-lV7

clove has the product up too..
[Xperia Z General] Warrimonk:
I feel like a lot of people here are getting super worked up over details that are not even a huge deal.

Not enough storage? It has a micro SD, slot and 16GB built in! I can understand needing more than 16 or even 32gb to store music, photos, videos ect.... but are you actually complaining because you can't live with 80GB??? That seems a little absurd.

Also regarding the non-removable battery.....

The battery should not start to show any major wear within the first year. The warranty is also lasts exactly one year.

Obvious solution? Just take the phone apart and replace it. We are at XDA Developers here, there is a 90% probability that there will be a battery replacement guide within a month of the phone release.

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The only things that I think are worth worrying about right now are the release date and the price. The sooner the release date the better. I have been looking at upgrading from my i9100 for quite a while, and every time that I am about to buy a new phone something better is announced and I end up waiting.

Nexus 4 (missed order) -> Droid DNA and Oppo find 5 (ended up not having expandable storage) -> Xperia ZL (Finally gets it right) -> Maybe SGS4 if Sony does not hurry up.

Has anyone heard anything regarding North American Price or Release date???

As long as the phone is under $750 no contract, and the SGS4 doesn't announce a groundbreaking new improvement. I am sold on the new Xperia.
[Xperia Z General] ThilinaC:
6.44" display leak :eek:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/21/3899758/leaked-display-component-6-44-inch-1080p-sony-smartphone
[Xperia Z General] Crucio_:
If there is a 6.44" model in the works then i could see it coming with some sort of style and being some competition for the Note II and any other phablets that are on the way. I think the Z is going to be the perfect size for my uses :)

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I have only seen clove and digital-phone.co.uk offering the deal with the free speaker. I think it is more than likely that more retails will also offer that deal, like nokia was offering the wireless charger deal on the 920.

The speaker itself looks pretty nice.
[Xperia Z General] Gregz78:
French sony online store also offers the speaker in white for the first 500 buyers.

It's a speaker but also hands free... why not if it's free in my hands :)
[Xperia Z General] batman_112:
Seems like it.

True.
[Xperia Z General] zaynal:
Xperia Z Promo Video for Japan market:

[youtube]y8BfPmitHaU[/youtube]

[youtube]1havbxKXn5A[/youtube]
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
Xperia Tablet Z videos.

Runs smooth, super thin, I WANT IT! thinking of collecting the entire z series since i already own the laptop :D

[YOUTUBE]xOrJ5UZN_Qo[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]PtW9cPpHw4I[/YOUTUBE]

English-

[YOUTUBE]Vv3O_gZpVoI[/YOUTUBE]

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btw in the second video: what is that button @1:28?

Did she just closed all the recent apps?
[Xperia Z General] zaynal:
Yeah, close all apps button (全アプリ終了).
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
Gotta Be Mobile (as well as Sony) say that the Sony Xperia Z will have a 443 pixels-per-inch display. However, I've seen elsewhere other websites saying that it will 441. Please could someone clarify once and for all which of these two it will actually have?? Many thanks! :)

Source: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/01/23/sony-xperia-z-vs-htc-m7/

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/phones/xperia-z/features/#tabs (Display)
[Xperia Z General] sidneylopsides:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

I'm sorry, but why would it make any difference whatsoever? A difference as small as that could easily be a rounding error.

Just read it as 440ish and be happy, it's still massively over most handsets.
[Xperia Z General] soldiers33:
wow people are so picky. no removable battery no this not that. Its a beautiful phone if you like it get it if not then go else where.
[Xperia Z General] nightwing369:
http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-xperia-z-vs-sony-xperia-zl-149773/

Great article. Personally I'm getting the the Sony Xperia Z, rather than the Sony Xperia ZL (Sony Xperia Z Lite :p )
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Actually, it is neither. It is 440.58ppi . Neither 441 nor 443.

How to calculate:

(Sqrt((1080*1080)+(1920*1920)))/5

This gives you 440.58 something.
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
??????

http://i.computer-bild.de/imgs/4/7/...-Folie-abgezogen-360x270-b6a3ac06989d13fa.jpg
[Xperia Z General] beeboss:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Does it mean to say that the logo is printed on screen protector and not on under screen or that the SP is easily removable ?
[Xperia Z General] ngvuanh:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

You also forgot that, we in fact don't know the real diagonal measurement. 5" may be also rounded up or down.
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
With regards to the SONY logo peeling off with the shatterproof sheet, the front logo does seem to illuminate so even if you were to remove it, you should at least still be able to get the illuminated SONY logo up at the top. Some might even like that more... it'll be like a Bravia TV where you have a solid monolithic front, then can have the SONY logo illuminate if you want.
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Aye, so correcting for that we get neutral correction lol :silly:
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
you know all the xperia/sony logos on the 2012 ones should be printed on the screen and not the sp. I saw a number of people removing the manufacture's one and they never mentioned this happening otherwise, this would have pointed out back then already.

the question is why is sony doing this to for the 2013 line? is the Z costing too much to make due to the materials? :confused:
[Xperia Z General] beeboss:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Personally I wouldn't mind if the logo removes with protector . It will make the design of front look even more minimalstic and sexy ..nexus 4 style :p but maybe it's just an issue with exhibition samples and ita will go away on commercial ones ..
[Xperia Z General] combatmedic870:
Does the zl and z have the same batteries?? the z gets an hour better battery life.

11 hours vs 10. 10 hours battery life is kind of not very long....for a non removable battery. im sure once a nice kernel come out for it it can be extended to 12-13 but still...
[Xperia Z General] beeboss:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

I don't think they will differ like 1 hour due to my experience , maybe 20-30 minutes no more. But trust me if Franco comes here with his kernel we will see a huge improvement because his modifications to internal drivers are 100% effective on all devices I have. Let's just hope :)
[Xperia Z General] paul-c:
Re: ***XPERIA Z and XPERIA ZL 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Wow, that better not happen if I decide to take the screen protector off the phone. Have to think that will be sorted out before release. I didn't have any problems with the SONY logo when I took the protector off the ion.

Sent from my Sony Xperia ion