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[Droid RAZR M General] dew.man:
Another nice thing about the camera button being flush is that the M cases all fit

:laugh:
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
Exactly. Have any of the major case manufacturers put a case out yet? Or are Verizon and cheap eBay cases the only options still?

-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
[Droid RAZR M General] mattlgroff:
Mine is flush as well.

I got a guide already up

http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/4716-how-to-root-your-razr-i/
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
Nice I'll check that out soon.

-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
[Droid RAZR M General] alwaysbelieve1:
What you do turn off LTE because whenever I seem to do that battery life is the same whether it's on or off?
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
I didn't test to see if battery life on the M was better in 3g mode than in LTE mode. I assumed it would be but I don't know for sure.

The i doesn't even have LTE as an option so I can't see how it would affect battery life.

-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
10/6/12 noon update: I've run the Razr i through a full charge cycle, and here are the results:

For comparison, here's a result from the Razr M:

I will also note that the RAZR i had GPS on and in use for 1 hour 45 minutes in its battery cycle. The M had no GPS use. But the i still beat the M pretty handily. Overall, based on these early results, I'd say it appears the i will get about 10-20% more battery life than the M... maybe even more. I also think the RAZR i has the best battery life of any smartphone I've ever used (including HTC Incredible, Droid Bionic, HTC One X, One S, Galaxy Nexus, Sony Xperia Ray, Razr M, and a few others).

I updated the OP with this info.
[Droid RAZR M General] The Jones:
That is some awesome battery life! I just got myself the RAZR i and I am really impressed by it. My first Motorola device and I really really like it a lot! But that is some awesome battery life you are getting, I have never had more than 3 hours of screen on time with any phone I have had from One X to One S to Galaxy Nexus. Amazing. Any hints!?
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
I use a solid black background to conserve energy with the amoled display. I keep brightness around 25% unless it really has to be higher. No haptic feedback. WiFi when possible.

Otherwise, I don't do anything special, and I definitely do not use or recommend apps like juice defender or smart actions for battery conservation.

I only have one Google account syncing and I don't get that many emails. That screen on time was mostly web browsing, xda, messaging, and maybe a little you tube.

-Sent from my Razr i.-
[Droid RAZR M General] alwaysbelieve1:
Why don't you recommend the smart actions to be used because I thought that supposed to actually help and since it's built right into the phone software is in that naturally what it supposed to be doing for this particular device?

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[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
I use the smart actions and they're great. In fact, Google clearly wanted this phone free of most Motorola features, but kept that. I suspect Google may well take the feature for a future build of Android, or at least other Nexus devices.
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
I just don't like crap running in the background. If I wanted to use something like smart actions, I'd use tasker, which is more powerful anyways.

-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
[Droid RAZR M General] alwaysbelieve1:
Tasker is too complicated IMO.

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[Droid RAZR M General] zvoner5:
I'd love it if you could help us with the razr i stock wallpapers. They're not available anywhere and I'm sure I won't be the only one who appreciates it :)
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
How do I extract them?

-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
[Droid RAZR M General] jntdroid:
adb pull /system/***

don't know what directory they're in, but just specify the directory tree
[Droid RAZR M General] zvoner5:
I found this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1673250 . Doesn't sound too hard :) nice to see such a quick answer from you.
[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
I like Smart Actions. It's powerful, but more important - it's

dead easy for Joe Public to use

. It must be considered fairly good given the fact Google wanted to strip every Motorola feature/app out of the new devices.. you may have also heard that Webtop has been axed too (not that it was ever in the M or i, but nor will it appear in anything else).

I even wonder if Google is going to take Smart Actions, and any other ex-Motorola app (the good stuff) to go into a future version of the OS available not only on Nexus devices but, potentially, every Android phone.

I am speculating here, but it would make sense.
[Droid RAZR M General] alwaysbelieve1:
I'm curious what are everyone's Smart Actions setups?

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[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
I got a bit carried away....

View attachment 1383994

This photo has just made me realise that I've got two rules effectively duplicating each other! Sleep rule & Night-time battery saver. :eek:
[Droid RAZR M General] mattlgroff:
You can find them in my System Pull..

http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/4687-system-pull-stock-kernel-81531002retailengb/
[Droid RAZR M General] The Jones:
One of the things that made me wonder about smart actions was that for location based stuff it needs WiFi to be on. All the time. Even when I am not connected to a WiFi network. Is this not inefficient compared to network cell location and no WiFi??
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
I don't think Tasker had that problem.

-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
I rarely, if ever, turn off Wi-Fi. Most of my time is at home or somewhere else with Wi-Fi, so Wi-Fi is faster than mobile data (most of the time).

When I travel to London for an event or something, I won't have Wi-Fi on my local trains, but will when I get on to the London Undergound.. so it's really not worth turning it on/off all the time, and running the risk of a rule not working properly (or me forgetting) and suddenly using 3G data for a huge file download or video stream.

I don't turn off Bluetooth either, as the power drain is negligible in my opinion. (I say opinion as I'm sure someone will be along to point out just how bad Wi-Fi and Bluetooth is to the battery!).
[Droid RAZR M General] The Jones:
Sure. Neither do other automation apps. Hence my question. So far I must say that wifi appears to be having little battery drain however, I have noticed it not reconnecting very well when switching the screen back on. Not sure what the right answer is!
[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
I only have one rule that uses Wi-Fi to check my location and, to be honest, I don't even need it. It ups the ringtone volume and that's it. I set it because I was reviewing the phone and was testing different options.

The battery life is excellent on the i anyway. I have not even seen what happens when the battery gets critical (as in below 10 or 5%) because I'll have put it on charge long before that happens!
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
Random note: Play Store is telling me that the game Rayman Jungle Run is incompatible with my i. That's the first app incompatibility I've encountered.

-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
[Droid RAZR M General] mattlgroff:
You should post this on the Motorola Support Forums in this thread.

Looks like Motorola will actually try to make it compatible or investigate why not or something, Couldn't hurt.
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
Thanks. posted.

-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
Having just bought a 64GB microSDXC card (which works fine) I tried to download some SD card testing tools.. One failed to install (invalid package) and the other gave errors - not on the card, but the internal memory.

The only other app that I had problems with was Chrome, which was fixed before release.
[Droid RAZR M General] alwaysbelieve1:
What's your set up, each's settings, that makes it so much better for the battery and yours personally?

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[Droid RAZR M General] Notrega:
Wifi just has to be on to create the rule and set a baseline for the Wifi network and what towers you are on. Then it cuts on/off as directed.

Confused me too

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[Droid RAZR M General] decebal:
Can you please tell me if the Adobe Flash is working on the "Razr I" ?

thanks

Adrian
[Droid RAZR M General] Simplestas:
It won't, it's disabled

in /system/lib/arm/config.xml:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<filter>org.mozilla.firefox</filter>
<filter>org.mozilla.firefox</filter>
<filter>org.mozilla.firefox_beta</filter>
<filter>com.android.chrome</filter>
<filter>com.adobe.flashplayer</filter>
<filter>com.adobe.air</filter>
<airprefix>air.</airprefix>
<airfilterlib>libCore.so</airfilterlib>

Maybe if someone with root edits that file it'll work, but even if it will, performance will be sub-par.
[Droid RAZR M General] decebal:
And another question that I cannot find on the online specs. Does it support DC-HSDPA since I'm in an area wih 41Mbit connections it is for a couple of years a better alternative to LTE.

Thanks again
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
I don't know for sure but I think it maxes out at 21 mbps.

-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
[Droid RAZR M General] jntdroid:
Everything I'm seeing on the M and I show 21.
[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
I've never seen DC on mine. The manual suggests it can show DC and 4G, but clearly they've not revised the manual properly from the RAZR M.

While it might have had DC-HSPA, there's no way 4G was ever going to show!

BTW, has anyone noticed just how many benchmarking apps read that the RAZR i is dual-core?

EDIT: My phone has just popped up to say there's a system update (81.5.31002.en.GB). It's only 6MB so it's clearly not Jelly Bean, but I wonder what changes there are?

Further edit: I see that the above seems to be the retail version that people who have bought the phone have had, so looks like I was a bit behind with the pre-release software.
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
Yeah 31002 is what I've had since I bought it.

-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
[Droid RAZR M General] alpha beta gaga:
phositadc have you noticed slight jerky animation here and there on the i? i've just taken delivery of my i here in the uk and have posted this over on the i forum
[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
The only jerky animation I see is on the home screen when you press home or pinch to get the overview. You don't get it anywhere else (or I haven't) and it's a real shame Motorola couldn't code this better. It's the one thing you'll see a lot of, and certainly in a store if you use a demo unit.

Naturally, people will assume the processor can't keep up or something - but that's not the case. It's a badly coded routine to scale the screens down (or up) and nothing more. Everything else is smooth, and this is before 'project butter' for when we get Jelly Bean.

Replace the launcher with Nova (or similar) and everything is back to being lightning quick.
[Droid RAZR M General] alpha beta gaga:
exactly apart from the bits in my op, everything else on the phone is smooth and even smoother after adjusting both 'window animation scale' and 'transition animation scale' from 1x to off. hope it does not affect the phone in another adverse way though
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
Yeah that had been my experience too. I really have no complaints about smoothness. Even iPhone stutters every now and then. Occasional stutters don't bother me, but yeah they do exist.

-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
[Droid RAZR M General] alpha beta gaga:
i think having the jellybeaned nexus hasn't helped. nothing short of smooth there but batt life and size is a no no for me so looks like the i will be a keeper :)
[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
Hopefully we won't have to wait too long for JB here.
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
And hopefully jelly bean won't screw anything up! So sad when a long awaited software update finally arrives only to kill performance, battery life, or something else important.

-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
Yes that's always a risk, as I've discovered with the Xperia S.

I doubt much will go wrong though, as it's pretty native Android OS (besides the Motorola launcher and Smart Actions, and that circle widget!) and so shouldn't mess up. Nor should it take Motorola/Google long to get JB ready for release - although they only ever said 'soon' at the launch,

As someone who reviewed the first RAZR at the end of 2011 and saw ICS rolled out about 3-4 weeks ago in the UK, and ICS rolled out just yesterday for the Xoom 2 Media Edition, both with 'ICS coming soon' told to me by Motorola at both launches, we could be looking at anything from next week to next July...
[Droid RAZR M General] Simplestas:
Hi guys! Can anyone with Razr i tell about audio quality? GSMArena review found high amount of distortion. They also tell camera is awful. That's strange, pictures posted here don't show much difference between M and i.
[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
Better than my Sony Xperia S. Nice and clear, and no distortion that I've noticed (in fact, can't remember any phone that has distorted that I've looked at).

The camera can be noisy in low light, and HDR can make some images look a little unnatural (exactly the same happens when using HDR on an HTC phone). Generally speaking though, as with the photos posted here, the camera is actually very good and the LED lamp is very bright.

Again, comparing with my Xperia S, that takes extremely noisy shots in anything but good light. I think that if you want a decent camera, it's looking increasingly like the phone to get will be the Lumia 920.
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
I've had both (returned the m today after 2 weeks) and I think the i has a better camera. Can't comment on audio really except that the i sounds fine on my Bluetooth headphones.
[Droid RAZR M General] Le_Poilu:
About video testing you can find everything needed for that here:

http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/

Many file format, many quality .. all absolutely free ;)
[Droid RAZR M General] mattlgroff:
They replied, seemed to be an issue with compatibility on the RAZR M as well. It's really great to see Motorola listening to the community :)
[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
I'm wondering how to put stuff on the external SD card (mnt/external1) than the internal one (mnt/sdcard) and have asked a question here so as not to affect this thread.

64GB cards work fine on the Razr i and are now very cheap, but there's a clear limitation if most things can only be installed on the 8GB internal storage. I appreciate most people who have just got the phone probably haven't had the problem yet, but you will. :)
[Droid RAZR M General] no_means_no:
I don't know if LTE is overhyped. I'm following these two models since they're announced. And I don't know much about the differences in the cpu architecture. Usually I'd prefer the RAZR i, and I don't know if the M will be available in Germany. But it wouldn't have ruined them putting the LTE antenna in, I think.
[Droid RAZR M General] freak4dell:
The Intel chip doesn't support LTE. They probably could have put in a discrete LTE radio, but that would have increased costs, and they might not have had room in the chassis. LTE is also a drain on the battery.

I don't think LTE is necessarily overhyped, but I do think people put too much focus on it. On a consumer level, LTE isn't that big a deal. Of course, there are technical factors that make LTE a better option, which is why carriers are moving to it, but at the moment, HSPA+ is good enough for me. With T-Mobile US, people routinely get 7-10Mbps on HSPA+, which is more than enough for anything I would do on a phone. I have a great connection at home for the really bandwidth intensive stuff. People in areas with increased spectrum who have capable phones see over 20Mbps. I'd be happy with anything over 3, to be honest. As long as I can browse the web, get my emails, and stream music, I'm happy. Eventually, when the T-Mobile LTE network is widespread, I will make the switch to an LTE phone, but I think I'll manage to survive without it for another couple of years.
[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
I think it is overhyped because people talk about it as a major selling point of a phone but a vast majority of users never need a 20mbps connection on a phone. I've had lte phones and never really even notice the lte except that it drains my battery life faster. Yeah people that stream movies benefit, but I think more users than not (except for maybe xda types) don't watch movies on their phones.
[Droid RAZR M General] fastboot_oem_unlock:
LTE Advanced will be better hopefully.
[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
3G was a major leap for consumers as it made mobile data practical. 4G will be important too, but it's not essential for most people who already have data speeds way beyond their needs (enough to stream HD video on HSPA+ for example).
[Droid RAZR M General] alwaysbelieve1:
Once you have and use LTE you won't want to live/stream without it. My battery lasts me all day and I still have enough left for another half day.

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[Droid RAZR M General] phositadc:
I have had it for months, and I couldn't care less about it. I don't stream. For email, messaging, news, and browsing, 3-5 mbps is MORE than enough.

Haven't studies shown than like 90% of wireless users use less than 500 mbps per month? I'm guessing none of those people stream either. Xda users are a unique crowd... many of them do actually benefit from LTE. But take an average user who had no idea what rooting or tethering is, and I don't think many of them benefit from LTE, despite the fact that all the carriers and advertisements are telling those users it's a "must have" feature.

-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
[Droid RAZR M General] no_means_no:
I really hope it's not the last phone in the line of smartphones with a 4" to 4.3" display in a small body and a good performance. I think my next phone (still on a Defy+) should have LTE...
[Droid RAZR M General] jonmorris:
I'm planning to use LTE with a Huawei MiFi (portable hotspot) for mobile broadband. I really don't need it in my phone and using a phone with tethering kills the battery.
[Droid RAZR M General] dew.man:
I also had the Razr M with LTE and now the Razr I with HSPA+ and while the LTE was nice, I had no problem giving it up and don't miss it one bit. To me, the slower speeds are only noticeable when I'm trying to download large files, and that's not something I do very often considering the data cap. If anything, having the slower data speeds encourages me to better schedule large transfers around times where I have WiFi to avoid getting hit with overage charges.
[Droid RAZR M General] Mr-XXX:
Thanks for the good comparison phositadc! I'm currently tossing up between the I and the R and am wondering if you would be able to do a battery comparison with LTE disabled on the M (leaving 3G enabled).

The reason why I want to know this is because the M will be officially released here in Australia for $600 AUD at the end of the month and I'll be able to get an I for $540 AUD right now.

My carrier doesn't have LTE so that is why I'd be interested in a battery comparison without LTE running on the M.
[Droid RAZR M General] no_means_no:
I just can't un derstand why they're building a high-end device with no LTE option inside. Is it 24cents more expensive???:silly:
[Droid RAZR M General] freak4dell:
The Intel chip doesn't support LTE.
[Droid RAZR M General] cormie:
UPDATE?

Hi, so months down the road, how are you getting on with the i? I'm thinking to purchase it myself, liked your comparison so just thought I'd see how you're getting on with it and did the JB update bring any negative effects?
[Droid RAZR M General] laagkeet:
I'm curious as well. I'm from holland and g4 is rolling out right now, I'm dubbing about to get the m version imported from the usa or just buy the i version here in holland
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] Bejjo:
Hello Guys..I am Experia user,.now I want to learn about how to mod Galaxy mini.

questions :

~Have I change a kernel to upgrade or install custom rom ??

~which one of stable rom ?? based Cm7, Cm9 or Cm10 ??

~which rom will give me more free ram and perfomance ??

Any one would help me ??Thanks....

(sorry for my English )
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] dheeraj (dhlalit11):
first you will need to be on gingerbread

then you should install cwm recovery from Odin (no unlocking required)

then just choose your favourite rom and flash with cwmr
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] Bejjo:
I search and get a thread that I can start to root and instal cwm on froyo ,is that right?

how about kernel and unlock bootloader ??do you mean the default kernel has support all custom rom ??
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] dheeraj (dhlalit11):
no need to root froyo just upgrade to gb with the help of Odin multi downloader

we have recovery.img so no need to change the kernel and in every rom its supported kernel is baked
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] Bejjo:
so I must upgrade to official ginger then rooting and instal cwm ??
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] dheeraj (dhlalit11):
yes you will need to be on gingerbread either official or unofficial

and rooting is not required to install cwm recovery

and a big warning is do not use rom manager on this phone to install cwm, mobile will get brick
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] Bejjo:
do you mean no need root to upgrade & mod this device??
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] dheeraj (dhlalit11):
yes no root for installing custom rom

as we are not flashing recovery from from manager and Odin do not require root

but if you want to be on stock and want to modify it then you will need root
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] Bejjo:
Thanks for your time....nice to see this forum,God bless you !!!
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] Galaxy_Rohit:
Bootloader unlocking is the case of HTC phones. In Samsung phone, you don't've to worry about unlocking bootloader

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[Asus Transformer TF700] hayder94:
Hi, after I updated my Infinity with JB, I noticed the screen ocasionaly flickers, like for half a second one random line of pixels on the left side turns black, and other distortions, very ocasionaly and quick. Is anyone having problems like this?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Strga:
yeap, sometimes a white horizontal line appears for a second o less in my tablet. I have to tell you that I don't have yet "the buttery" in it. Waiting to have time for a factory reset to improve the performance.
[Asus Transformer TF700] hayder94:
I saw other posts from the prime and the infinity as well, that after a while it gets worse, and a factory reset doesn't help at wall. I whant to resolve this without having to exchange it. I'm sick of having to go to the store and exchanging it. It's my 3rd Infinity.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rlarson)mn:
I have not had what you described above happen to eithor the TF101 or TF201 I had prior to my current TF700T. My TF700T has not shown any of the issue you described after my upgrade to JB. It sounds like something you should take up with Asus right away since it could be a hardware issues and would be covered by your warranty.
[Asus Transformer TF700] hayder94:
anyone else?
[Asus Transformer TF700] lnew:
I also get a screen flicker since upgrading to Jellybean on my

rooted TF700. I suppose I'll try a factory reset and will report back.
[Asus Transformer TF700] houtx2:
Yes, I get that too. Kind of annoying.
[Asus Transformer TF700] KaliS-Pugilist:
I also get it....was wondering of it was just me. I got my new infinity a couple days before the JB update so I wasn't sure if it was a result or not.