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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
A lot of android screens have twice the screen real estate so it is not a 100% apple to apple comparison. And OEM's and carriers don't help the matter either piling on their bull****. I think android can become comparable to iOS but we probably won't see that for another year or so from Google and likely that means 18-24 months with OEM's and carriers playing catch-up as usual.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bagelicious:
That's exactly what I was thinking. I didn't care for the Nexus S 2 years ago and sold it after 3 weeks. I wish I could've picked up a different Nexus.

I don't care what they call it or if they remove the Nexus name. I want vanilla android with updates pushed by Google as soon as they can. No carrier or manufacturer BS to slow it down. They can call it CockKnocker for all I care. It'll still be awesome.

Variety is what people love about Android - choice of screen sizes, manufacturers, battery sizes, etc etc. Why not introduce that into the Nexus line and make it even better?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Winesnob:
I would love to see multiple unlocked devices sold by Google. No reason they can't take a cue from Apple and build Nexus devices that work on CDMA, LTE, and GSM (iPhone 5 CDMA variant). Ideally find a manufacturer that can build a "universal" device. Add any SIM you like, but device is sold and maintained by Google.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
I only find that appealing if you can turn off CDMA and lte radios completely.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albundy2010:
Take any sized screen android device and compare. It wont matter. If you do the math and compare the effective/normallized battery life apple devices win for the most part. Are their any android devices with the same exact screen size/resolution for a direct comparison? Of course not. Nor do we have the exact same SoC's and motherboards to do a traditional test like we would do with a pc.

There is enough to get a conclusion that iOS devices/iphones are just more efficient in general though. And google could really do some work to try and make the os more efficient. .

Yes the OEM's dont help. Actually they may. It is not like nexus devices running stock android have been leading the pack with battery life. Root it and freeze stuff with titanium backup if you want.

Again it all comes to. Imagine a android device with the iphone 5 specs running on that size battery. I doubt there is anybody that actually thinks it could come close to the battery life that apple manages to get with that thing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
one os multitasks while the other doesn't...

that makes a huge difference imo
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jxr94:
Ironically enough, it was pretty arrogant of you to make a such a baseless claim. Pfft, and people call Americans arrogant...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albundy2010:
Nexus phones have never been popular with the public. I only seen one in the wild myself in New York. Nothing was ever stopping OEM's from making stock like android devices. Very few did. The G2 for example. They where still late on updates.

They loved to put their custom stuff on them to make them stand out from the others. I really don't see OEM's jumping up and down to make a stock device that falls into this new meet the nexus requirement rumor.

I dont see them changing their ways just to toss the nexus name on a device to compete with um..other nexus's and their own skinned devices.

This entire rumor seems like a bunch of FUD to me. I can see google working with multiple oems and making a couple of nexus devices. But not this entire they make a device and it gets the google nexus stamp of approval talk. Time will tell
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
Just going with the general consensus from all my traveling..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albundy2010:
Turn off multitasking all together and compare.

Gosh. Why cant some people just admit that one product does something better then another. This is exactly my point. Always a excuse.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
No need to get cranky I was just saying multitasking definitely uses some juice.

I can't say I've ever "turned off multitasking".

How would you even go about that
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albundy2010:
Dev options. Dont allow any backround processes.

Even without that. Most of us advanced users disable things on startup. Dont let our devices constantly update things in the backround etc. Frankly it is really just a fanboy excuse for android being worse battery wise
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
hardly a fanboy I just find ios boring...

is the battery life really THAT much better?

take the 4s for example
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albundy2010:
I hate iOS. I would never run it period. Also I don't like apple products in general. I don't like OSX etc. I dont let my personal preference interfere with the facts though.

In general the battery is better. Some of the iphones over the years where better than others.

You have to normalize the batteries when comparing two different phones. Think of it like a car. Car A has a 15 gallon tank. Car B has 12. Normalize would the miles per gallon. This is how apple can only manage to put what we could call a tiny battery in the iphone5 with all its powerful hw.

Imagine when the nexus device is announced on stage Hugo says this device has 1400mAh non removable battery. That alone proves my point.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] edrickmph:
will this be compatible to our galaxy nexus? or can our galaxy nexus be updated to 4.2 (key lime pie?)?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lrs421:
Yes it will. The Nexus S went from gingerbread to ics to jellybean. The Galaxy Nexus will live on.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
so the presumably lg nexus device will swap out the original 2100 mah battery for a 1400mAh battery

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ok can you explain why my girls iPhone 4s couldn't make it past lunch during her work day and her gnex leaves her with 60 percent t walking out the door.

battery life is subjective upon use and signal making broad statements doesn't just fit.

Our shut IT manager from work brags that he doesn't have to charge his iPhone all weekend. After watching his Facebook feed during the weekend I gathered sits at home on wifi all day with all pictures of his cats he uploads.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Winesnob:
Control by software at boot - read the SIM, determine the carrier, disable radios that cannot be used. User would still be able to set personal network preferences from the remaining options.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] evil_penguin:
Project Roadrunner sounds very interesting.

And new play store ...

Can't wait.

Hope its true.

Go android :)

- proud owner of galaxy nexus ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
That example doesn't normalize the comparison. Car a could be a truck and car b could be a compact car. Car b is probably gonna do much better at mpg because it was designed from the tires and up to do that, but the truck is a workhorse and able to carry a lot more and it wont be a big deal to carry an extra tank of gas in the back.

I am not denying that iPhones get better gas mileage per tank of gas. I am also not gonna deny that I see many Iphones at work being charged throughout the day but when I charge mine for whatever reason some icrapper has to point out I am charging my phone.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albundy2010:
The car thing was just a basic example. Of course all that stuff plays into account.

So does signal and usage on a phone, Take the same user. Same network. Same usage pattern etc the iPhone in most cases gets better battery. Legit reviewers do this like anandtech. Standard test in a controlled environment.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
Project Roadrunner is what I'm most interested in by far.

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I care because development will be split now probably throughout at least three Nexus phones.

I enjoyed one Nexus phone being the father of Android phones in theory.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonnyg1097:
I wonder if Google made this deal with OEMs to make mulitple Nexus' phones/devices because they are going to open their own retail store. I mean they have the chrome books already, and then the cell phones, and the tablet.

</wishful thinking>
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albundy2010:
Don't think a retail store selling chrome books , nexus phones tablets makes much sense. Is not a strong enough demand for them.

Could have the same retailers sell it that have the nexus 7. Building a store and all the cost that goes along with it. Doubt ir
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Could be the play store will be the place of retail.

I hope people are not getting their expectations too high with nexus. I think Google is aiming for the middle class market mostly with the middle of the road nexus. Perhaps if all the wheels keep turning and the devs keep lubing the gears perhaps oem's will start catering to the high end market which will get more traction with @osp. Markets this big always get a market for that. Somebody is gonna push a desktop and laptop ARM market sooner or later. Wouldn't bee too surprised to see something like 32/64/128/256 cores in computers and servers in the near future and probably phones like padfone2 could start it. Linux in general has adapted fairly well even with big guys like nvidia and Intel holding out on support. I think OEM's fail to see that their skins are stalling progress with the whole iPhone mentality. Open source people usually like to share things so everybody benefits. Others like to nickel and dime and keep you in the fence.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonnyg1097:
Yea I was just joking around with that comment. Like you said rbiter more than likely the play store is replacing the need for a physical retail store.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
If the first new Nexus is based off the LG Optimus G, then it will not be a middle of the road Nexus. That phone is sporting pretty high end specs.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
that is what i am guessing. amazon does very well on it. an google is not serious about selling the hardware itself. they just want to sell you a pipe. apple does the same thing basically. they are not in a position to sell the hardware itself. they too have to contract it out and bring it together in one piece. apple just wants to make money on the hardware, the software and their cut on the apps. putting an oem overlay on top of it is just stomping on the original product.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
With the way the Play Store is going, I would like to see Chromebooks be sold on the store too.

I just wish they'd lower the price on them.

They make wonderful Linux boxes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
basing that off of what? the cpu? the screen? high end phones have active noise cancellation, wolfson or cirrus logis dsp's, sd slots, hdmi and/or mhl, all the bells and whistles on the camera, better gpu's. the nexus 7 and galaxy nexus are not really high end. all that hasn't been confirmed yet. and i am not saying the s4 pro and adreno 320 are slouches. it is the whole package. the gnex didn't have anything really to put it up there. the gnex was kind of a letdown for the extra features. no noise cancel, no wolfson, no sd, no badass gpu, letdown on the 1.5ghz we were expecting out of the box and no awesome camera. we got ICS first.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] prajju123:
The customization thingy. i read that in this ver. u can choose to use stock or ux. does this mean that lets say my s3 is updated to 4.2, i can change to stock and future updates come immediately like the nexus without rooting and i dont have to wait for oem to update? this is a dream come true feature. :laugh

but then again, look at the s3/note 2, their features are more than just adding themes. some features are really worked at hard but i have faith in samsung.

Still i am wondering why the s3 in singapore come shipped with android 4.1 since last week, yet i have not received my 4.1 update, which i bought 1 month ago.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
A device does not need overkill camera features and sound to be a premium device.

CPU, GPU, RAM, screen, and storage makes a device premium IMO, followed by build quality.

-Brought to you by Marino's Galaxy Nexus-
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albundy2010:
I don't want a piece of crap by any means but build quality is last. I mean that as it is used today. Build quality is always referred to now as just a design preference by people. Wrongly so IMHO. Oh this phone feels nice and its made out of xyz while that this phone made of plastic is off a lesser build quality. Or this one is lighter or thinner etc. That is not quality. Its just design.

I care about all the internals first. All the way down to DAC . The outside I don't care much at all. As long as it isn't pink or some madness
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Serious_Beans:
High end just means the newest phones lol. Also the nexus had noise canceling and I am pretty sure it's the only phone with a hardware decoder. It also was one of the first phones to release with 720p resolution. On screen buttons. Latest software. A lot of things make the nexus high end.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
Nexus devices are high end in different ways to usual phones. Usual phones are competing in a specification war and releasing with old versions of Android (Some new phones are still releasing with ICS), the hardware makes them high end. Nexus devices release with moderate hardware but are far ahead of the other phones in terms of software. A Nexus will always have the best user experience for many people due to the fact that Android itself is designed to run flawlessly on this one phone. The software makes a Nexus high end.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Winesnob:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Andr...alaxy-Nexus-New-Motorola-Devices-297417.shtml

This. If accurate, 4.2 will retain the Jellybean name (based on the build nujmbers beginning with J).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
Doesn't matter what they call it, they can call it Android 4.2 "LOL" edition and I'm okay with it. It's just a name. I just want 4.2!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mike.b93:
+1

Now that the rumors have started coming out of every hole I can't wait to have the new Android version on my phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
Check your system update ota.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ssvijay:
Why any special OTAs??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] derPianist:
Omg cant wait to have CM based on 4.2 :D:thumbup:

via Google Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] likebutta:
I hope they eventually add scheduling appointments or events via Google Now (voice)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tarun95:
Only thing I care about is good gaming performance. If they can improve that I am set with this phone for a year. Not bothered about the project roadrunner since my battery life is already excellent.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sblantipodi:
Waiting for the ota
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SkyKOG:
Seeing that jellybean only got the market share of 0.8% till date since launch.... don't know how key lime pie would benefit ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ssvijay:
If u are talking about other android devices .. Yep its true. But we own the Google phone so we obviously will be benefited </Selfish>
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SkyKOG:
Hehe :)...good for you :thumbup:

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
They should make Google Now an actual assistant instead of being an app that answers questions. Here's what I'm getting at:

1) You set an alarm using Google now

2) You also have an appointment on that day

3) When your alarm rings and you dismiss the alarm. Google Now begins to tell you about the weather and your scheduled appointments for the day building on features already in Google now such as the time to leave so your not late.

4) and maybe add some of those gimmick questions like *will you marry me* because that kind of stuff attracts iOS users.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Lol. Why did #4 put a visited in my head of 'here little kid want some candy'?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
These things sound interesting. Hopefully Roadrunner isn't a flop like Butter.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 063_XOBX:
I don't know what you're basing that on but the general consensus on PB is that it was great.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spjetrovic:
Word on the street is that Google will announce a new incremental Android update when unveiling this year’s new Nexus-branded handsets, Android 4.2, which is apparently still going to be called Jelly Bean. And it looks like the new software version has already been spotted.

http://www.androidauthority.com/and...rola-razr-nexus-motorola-nexus-tablet-120541/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Great is too great a word. There is room for improvement in lots of places. And Google needs to implement the double tap and draw zoom and make it better. It's very clunky in maps but making it smooth like pinch to zoom and implementing in browsers, pictures and other stuff is good.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
it's because he's a huge troll that ****s all over everything in these forums
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] androidkid311:
+1 well said :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
Project butter was that new zooming feature?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] godofwar424:
I think this is a great idea for Google!

People buy into iOS because they know that Apple will only let things that work in. They have that reassurance that they will get a phone that just works and won't have any major software issues on release ect. They trust Apples word.

Now by Google offering a Nexus certification means that people can rely on the fact that Google will provide a top end experience with continuous updates and support, as well as still allow people the choice of various specs/sizes and form factors. (the main selling point for Android. People like choice!)

This will do alot to boost Android for them people who like iOS due to its reliability ect.

Also helping reduce the fragmentation of Android and the lack of updates for most Android devices. (Carriers should be killed for their update blocks)

Not interested in the fanboyish comments on iOS or Android being better, honestly don't care, its a phone OS, grow up..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
Project Butter would be great if it delivered the performance of other platforms. It doesn't, so it's not.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Winesnob:
http://androidandme.com/2012/10/new...idandme+(Android+and+Me)&utm_content=FaceBook

LOL indeed.

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http://www.androidtaskforce.com/201...d-features-were-just-a-hoax-nothing-was-true/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
Tsk tsk tsk :( oh well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
No. That feature is part of maps. It was clunky as hell at first, but the last maps update made it better. Google needs to work the kinks out of it and put it everywhere. Works better as a one finger option and you dont need two fingers to zoom. Makes one handing it easier also.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dri94:
Thats not OS. Thats gapps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I want Google Now 2.0 to automagically order pizza for me on my "junk food days".

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus on AOKP, Trinity kernel
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nikens:
And when i thought they have nothing to improve... BAAAAAAAM!!! All new fantastic options xD
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kevinchen1102:
how i wanna know is what they gonna name it.lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
updated OP with hoax. definitely disappointing that it was fake, but what's fake right now may come to reality. maybe Google will take these suggestions and actually improve battery life drastically and name it Project Roadrunner ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] edwinpang:
I will never buy that optimus nexus :banghead: hate lg but the specs are attractive :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
Not a fan of the chrome on the edges. Rumored that there will be a Motorola, Samsung and HTC version of the Nexus so keep your eyes on that instead.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lesicnik1:
Samsung is supposedly making a 10" tablet Nexus, so probably no new Nexus phone from them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
Samsung is a worldwide company performing multiple operations including: Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini, Samsung Galaxy Note II... they are capable of doing it.

http://socialbarrel.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-ii-confirmed-with-an-8-mp-camera/44880/

Please do your research before quoting me or anyone else. There has been MANY MANY MANY rumors that there are multiple manufacturers producing their own Nexus this year so there won't be only ONE nexus but multiple from Motorola, HTC, Samsung, and more?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] edwinpang:
I thought they provide extra ui
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
What do you mean by extra UI?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dri94:
Nexus means no extra ui....

Why are people complaining about lg. They sucked cause of low spec and software behind or bloat. This phone is high quality spec and vanilla. People have literally nothing they can say
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
It's a Nexus device. The definition of a Nexus device is a device running stock Android. So yes no extra "UI" even though I wouldn't word it as a UI.

No comment about LG, not a fan of the starting out at 8GB internal memory especially not without a microsd card (people will complain about lack of microsd expansion but it doesnt matter to me as long as there is at least 16GB but I prefer 32GB to be the starting)

People will always criticize and complain about something. It's all apart of life, every phone made was and will be criticized.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
From what I see from LG since I have owned a few is: the phone especially the chrome around the edges eventually after 1.5 years or so starts to chip off the chrome, but other than that I have always been satisfied with the hardware. Also since its vanilla android and a NEXUS all I care about it beefy hardware, and this phone sure has that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dri94:
thats actually a good point. most people on here are just screaming i hate LG. like its a trend on twitter though

butt....

interesting news

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/10/3482664/lg-nexus-4-carphone-warehouse-listing
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
People have said they hate Samsung when they first came out in the business. "Oh cheap plasticy phones!" "TouchWiz!" blah blah blah... look at where they are now.

Nexus phones, "no microsd?!?!?!?!?" ... yet still popular. It's a Nexus device, you'll be in good hands regardless :)

just ignore the trolls/haters/whatever you want to call them. if you like the device then get it

(you as in.. not the guy im quoting but generally speaking)

nice to see color variations, i just hope the internal memory will be decent (32gb starting please?!.. at least 16!)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
If Samsung can come up with a solid phone in the Galaxy Nexus, damn near any company can.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NeoMagus:
If you guys haven't seen, engadget is claiming off their logs of a JOO90B build of 4.2 running on Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
We already knew that the Galaxy Nexus will have Android 4.2 that was a given.

That post doesn't really say anything, like it says on the headline "surprises no one."
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dri94:
It actually does. Thevrumors of nexii have been vague. This is the first "hard" piece of evidence of nexii instead of just the lg
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Citizen_Snips:
Yeah but we all already knew sooner or later we would get 4.2...

It's just a matter of when it becomes official. But we still knew. So yeah...surprises no one lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dri94:
This is no way respinds to what i posted.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vince7:
Can someone please enlighten me but I can seem to find one. Is there a car dock with 3 pin functionality for the Verizon galaxy nexus?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vince7:
So sad....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] serty4011:
The GSM dock works fine with minor modification.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
This, you need to send a part down slightly.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vince7:
Part down?