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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rayiskon:
Stop playing wannabe engineer games, and let Google handle it the way they see is best. So far they haven't let us down. Google is the only party actually investing in android to take the user experience to a higher level. None of the OEMs have contributed sh** , they only care about profit with providing the least customer support they can with getting away with it. Just remember what samsung's early touchwiz looked like, bloating stock android and turning it into a cheap iOS copy has marked android for a long time as a cheap copy. If it wasn't for Google's great job with ics and jb, we'd still be called copycats.

If the guys at Google think that multiple nexus devices would help in partially solving android's biggest problem, i.e. the adoption of newer software versions, so be it. It's a bad propaganda when u see how many guys are still stuck on gingerbread. So f**k OEMs and thumbs up for Google.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 3devious:
No wireless charging? Fail.

I like LG feature phones, I've never picked up one of their smartphones. I would have had the Spectrum but this came out first. I'll probably try a W8 phone just to see what it's like. It has a lot to live up to since I just got my GN to a point where I liked it better than my original Droid. If that sucker wasn't so underpowered 3 years later (lol,) I'd still have it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jasonhunterx:
Allowing company's to make there own nexus is the best thing android is about choice now you have a choice of a nexus phone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] leppo:
hardware-wise, the GNex is perfect for me. i don't know what would make me care enough about getting another phone... couldn't care less about extra cores, higher-res cameras, etc.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
Well except for the little fact about them being the most successful android manufacturer, and one of the most successful phone manufacturers in general, that there is
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] funkyblue04:
That is fine. Just release, 32gb then. I want stock and 32gb. I hate the cloud.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lrs421:
That's mostly because of the sheer volume of devices they put out. It's borderline nauseating. The market is saturated with Samsung phones at every price level. Their device support is questionable though. But with the Nexus we only rely on the hardware and luckily don't have to depend on them for updates.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
plenty of manufacturers do that though, hardly sound reasoning to claim that is why
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lrs421:
Lol @ you guys who say you won't buy this because of the manufacturer, half of you are kidding yourselves. The hardware is solid and you won't have to rely on them for software support.

After being burned by Samsung on the captivate, the bdp1200 bluray player and a dlp TV I said I wouldn't ever buy Samsung again, yet here I am. I've had my Nexus for 10 months and I've NEVER had to deal with Samsung during that time. One of the beautiful things about Nexus devices.

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I should've known that replying to your post would do no good. I forgot who I was taking to.

That's the point. They all do this to some degree in terms of making other products, which is what the other poster said before you hit him with the successfully Samsung bit. They all have multiple devices but not to the extent of Samsung, they have something like 4-5 tablets available right now and I wouldn't dare tally up their phones. Easy to be "successful" when your face is out there so much.

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I would like this too but it appears Google wants to move everyone to cloud based storage, that's my take on it at least. I have 20 gigs of music stored locally on my phone and I would like to continue in that manner. I've become too accustomed to 32GB devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] n0i2:
If these specs are true I think lots of people will be dissapointed by the lack of a removable storage option, the low capacity of the onboard storage and the non removable battery.

Also isn't an IPS diplay worse than a SAMOLED? Not sure about it, but i remember watching a comparative video about these two on youtube once...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jasonhunterx:
Wish us GSM owners had that luxury of 32GB
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] -A-P-M-:
I heard mostly bad things about LG related to their software, while hardware looks ok. For LG Nexus, Google will take care about software, so maybe Nexus based on Optimus G will be good phone. Galaxy Nexus never had top hardware, while Optimus G got very good hardware, even better than SGS3. So I have high hopes about next Nexus, despite it will be made by LG.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
nice ad hominem attack...

seems all you're capable of.

anyhow he said Samsung should stick to washing machines and televisions which was what I was replying to.

your circular reasoning is also laughable. So it is the reason for Samsung's success, but other manufacturers do that same thing and it doesn't lead to the same success.

You would be a terrible debater.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CMNein:
The only reason I won't buy the next Nexus this fall is because of 15k in other financial obligations before the end of the year, for that reason, I'd invite any lottery winners to send me a new phone, and 15k if you're feeling generous.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lrs421:
I apologize for trying to engage you in discussion, once I hit the submit button I knew it was a mistake. I can't argue with you in every thread nor point out your flawed logic. Considering you've already caused an international stir in this thread I'll just add you to my ignore list out of respect for the OP and his topic. Something tells me I won't be missing anything meaningful.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mario24601:
LG look nice...I was hoping for a Samsung N2 updated phone, I wonder if only the LG will be released as a unlocked version from Google Play? Also, not sure how I feel about the capacative buttons on the LG, I thought the screen/soft button would be better like on the current Nex and on N7 (which is what Im using). They just seem to work well...those with experience with capacative, are they ok?

Now also wonder how much this new phone will cost, the current Nexus seems like a good bargain at $350.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
prime example:

HTC
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CMNein:
Capacitive buttons worked well on my I9100, but after using soft buttons, I don't want to take that backwards step.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
once again, brilliant ad hominem...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lrs421:
I'm curious how any of these devices will be priced if they come to reality. It's conceivable that if 5 new Nexus's are released the GN may no longer be available through the play store. I agree with $350 being the ideal price for unlocked. Can't wait to see how this pans out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Sony has contributed.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mario24601:
So which did you like better? Capacitive or soft?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CMNein:
Soft by a long shot. The less physical buttons, the better IMO.

Edit: referring to the Home button on the I9100.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mario24601:
Thanks, thats what I was thinking too. I guess I may just get a current Nex, just wish the camera was a little better, thats all the upgrade I think I needed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albundy2010:
People. The optimus g has capacitive buttons. That does not mean a nexus based off it won't have on screen buttons.

You never saw a Samsung nexus with a physical home button did you?

Its not like Google buys a phone from a OEM, unlock it and and develop/ releases it with stock android.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mario24601:
Ahhh so even if has cap buttons, once it becomes a true Nexus then we may have soft buttons? That would be cool...to me seems that cap buttons are too low on the phone and on screen buttons seem more comfortable to use, I really like how it works on my N7 so hoping to get that same feel.

*I guess I will wait a bit after all to see it :) Using a old 3 year old phone right now since I returned my i5 hope they release this one soon! And hope its around $400 or so.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qwer23:
Exactly. Rumors even say that the design of the next Nexus is more like the Galaxy Nexus than the Optimus G.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albundy2010:
If google wants on screen buttons on the device. It gets on screen buttons. If google wanted to use a different chip in place of the s4 pro, it gets the different chip. And so on

I personally think on screen buttons on a phone is the dumbest idea they ever had. I actually wish they would see it that way but I doubt it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jordanprudent:
Don't see why everyone is hating on lg. They have some of the best hardware and screens. If Google is supplying the software and its aosp then there is no problem. Dev support will be second to non the phone will have excellent tech spec then where is the issue. People are relating a lg nexus to lg's previous phones , I owned the O3D and the phone was good spec wise but dev support was limited ( what was there was good) and updates to later android were non existent. If Google are supplying the updates then go lg this will be a winner

Sent from my supercharged iPhone 5 killing galaxy nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Life's gutwrenching.

But seriously, how is reception on lg phones? WiFi and cell radios?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] biscuitownz:
After experiencing many problems with previous LG phones, I won't be buying their nexus. I hope the other manufacturers don't follow through with the nonremovable battery, that just makes things extremely hard to repair if something needs replacing within the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TECK:
Personally, I'm more concerned with the investment XDA developers have to do, in order to test their apps.

Until now, it was simple. You buy ONE phone and test it properly. With multiple devices a dev might need to buy all of them to test things...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Simer03:
Huh? Its by far their best idea ever! Why take up real estate for buttons not everyone uses...

Sent from my Nexus Prime
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albundy2010:
Every time you look at your screen you use it.

Why take up screen real estate on small screen with buttons? Why have a nice 720p screen and have a black bar with buttons on it wasting space. You end up making a larger screen to fit the same amount of info onto the screen as a smaller screen in anything that is not full screen.

The 4.65 screen on the gnex is basically a 4.3 inch screen or so except when using something that makes the buttons go away like video playback. Real world example is place a gnex next to the htc one x. The screen is only half a inch shorter but it looks so much smaller because of how much is wasted on buttons.

There is room for the buttons on the bezels of the phones. The gnex has plenty of room on the bottom for them. That is wasted space. Having them on screen is wasted screen space. It is just flat out dumb IMHO.

I like the buttons on the 7 and bigger tablets. I wouldnt mind them on a device where there is no bottom bezel looking you the face with plenty of room for the cap buttons as much either.

Apparently big OEM's like htc samsung and LG agree as well. They have not jumped onto the onscreen ICS and above buttons train with their larger display devices for what I am talking about. Let alone a 4 inch screen for those that dont want a huge screen.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mike.b93:
Plus you can just hide them if u want the app to have the additional real estate (as a dev). Like when watchin videos.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rtimoff:
After using GNex( couple of months), its pain in the ass... I'm talking about this ugly hardware button. And every time when I need to push it, I feel a gag reflex and disgusting

And btw, looking forward for next Nexus device. No matter from LG or HTC... it must look sexy!:D

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albundy2010:
Don't get me wrong. I absolutely can't stand that home button on Samsung devices period. I'm for all capacitive buttons like the nexus s and HTC one ( took them fools to long to fix that menu button issue but eh) and the new optimus phone.

It is also a blatant rip off from Apple. They did that combined with copying iOS icons etc. They deserved to get their butts sued for it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
I personally love software buttons! one of the best innovations of android imo
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
Yup nowadays people associate software buttons with the Nexus line due to the Galaxy Nexus. Going back to capacitive buttons will be like removing a Nexus trademark.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mike.b93:
I wonder is Google employees read this stuff in here. They could get some nifty ideas for the new nexus line and see what users think... :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
I wouldnt be surprised if they do, free market research ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rand4ll:
I think this new lg looks nice. I will have to check it out. I also find the need for removable storage moot, I have never had a problem running out of space on my nexus by even half and store all my music on the cloud. This phone is very interesting.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragn4rce:
We already have split development.

Toro, Toro+, Manguro.

Nothing new.

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If I have helped you.... hit that sexy thanks button. ^_^
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Slacker101:
True but porting between them is relatively easy considering not much changes. Chip set differences etc are a whole new ball game.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rtimoff:
You know, 20y ago there was a company - Gold Star(LG now). Тhey produced microwaves. I know people who using this microwaves to this date. So, probably LG not too bad company:p

Just imagine- 20y old microwave, and its working!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
This is what I mean.

Just different radios for different carriers is nothing, All three variants are basically the same, now add different makers, chips, etc, whole another game,
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] funkyblue04:
Not really. If it is a proper Nexus device then it will have drivers/source released. Blame the us carriers for using crappy bands the rest of the world does not use.

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That is you though. Google forgets not everyone is in America and data is a premium. Plus I hate streaming. Just give me 32gb.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jeff_in_LA:
Everyone saying they are keeping their current Nexus, will be ebaying it the day this comes out. I see this every time.

Looks awesome, I'm in for sure.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] funkyblue04:
I just want a new camera and 32gb.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mixtapes08:
Multiple phones means separate development and that's not gonna be good to us users.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] springy:
I think Google will sort it out to some extent. By using open source kernels and limiting the hardware that can be used for the nexus will allow ports of ROMS easily between different nexus; well hopefully.. Haha
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
I don't think separate development will be bad for xda folk and the like. I do think more developers will flock to multiple nexus and development for your usual unlocked and carrier phones will probably start to stretch thin. Google will provide all the source and drivers so development will be much easier for nexii. Hopefully this will play out in the consumer's favor and more open source phones will hit the market.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lrs421:
Exactly, lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CMNein:
I'll just wait, and keep my eye on international sales, before I buy so I don't get stuck with the black sheep of the Nexus line.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Simer03:
Im waiting for the Nexus One X announcement!!!

Sent from my Nexus Prime
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rand4ll:
I think it is overblown though. There is enough good AOSP developers that we don't need them all on one phone. Half the ROMs we have are the same thing repeated and my guess is that all the big name ROMs will be on every device. Point begin is that even with the devs spread around each device will have a good set of AOSP ROMs to choose from and in fact it may be better as there won't be so many ROMs that are so similar and each ROM can really easily be differentiated.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] InfDaMarvel:
Multiple devices is bad for development. We already have multiple variants of the gnex.

As far as software buttons, I love them. They keep the device clean looking.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] albundy2010:
Saying that the different versions of the gnex hinder development is like saying the sprint and Verizon iPhone hurt Apple development.

Its just silly. What "hurts" anything in the nexus line is the carrier CDMA version bullcrap. They get left behind on updates officially compared to the gsm model

Then we always had people for years that say screw the OEM skins. We want stock android. Now that there is rumors of more than one nexus phone coming out its the opposite. Oh there should only be one device. The exclusivity... oh it it will split devs up yada yada.

Here are some current facts. There is currently four " nexus" devices that Google maintains. The nexus s. The gnex. The 7 and the Xoom. Yes the Xoom is not a true nexus but is supported by Google directly and in aosp... I left out the varients of each device.

That is a humming bird , tegra2 tegra3 and omap soc all running jellybean. I suspect at least one if not two of those devices will be dropped off official support soon as well. But now we are seeing this Google shouldn't launch multiple nexus phones because it brings a issue of updating them yada yada. It is just silly
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KennyG123:
Please continue this discussion in the thread for upcoming and other devices in the stickies.

Thank you for your cooperation

Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jkel777:
I just rooted and unlocked the bootloader on my HOX, but now I'm a little confused about what to do. I know I need to flash a custom recovery (I was going to flash TWRP through the goomanager app), but did I lose root when I unlocked my bootloader? Because when I open goomanager it doesn't ask for superuser authorization. So, do I have to install SuperSU again, then install BusyBox again as well? I'm a little lost here. But I'm glad I was able to root and unlock with little to no problems lol. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] AAccount:
I managed to compile twrp for the SGS3 GT-I9300. I loved this recovery on my SGS1 (until I couldn't get it to activate on devil kernel) and my Galaxy Tab 10.1. It has saved my rear end several times while testing the A1 kernel. With its on recovery terminal I could dd flash the stock kernel. CWM Touch is nice but I ABSOLUTELY LOATHE the blobs backup format. It makes it darn near impossible to save nandroid backups on your computer. I can understand the logic behind the blobs format but I still hate it. Also, I think it's a shame that the American/Canadian Qualcomm SGS3 has TWRP but the international power house doesn't.

I just downloaded the twrp source a few hours ago so this is TWRP V2.2.2.1. Unfortunately, the external SD does not mount but I did manage to get adb to work. I think that you could always adb push a rom zip in the event you cannot boot, forgot to make a nandroid, and forgot to have a "just in case" zip. Also, when rebooting, YOU MUST CHOOSE REBOOT SYSTEM. If you just poweroff, it will reboot into recovery the next time. If you forget and choose poweroff and it reboots into recovery, just choose reboot system and everything will be fine.

Attached is A1 (the character my A1 kernel is named after) holding my I9300 showing the recovery. The source is also uploaded, which includes files that I've changed in case anybody is interested to know how I did it. There is a rootzwiki page with instructions I followed. Just a few minor deviations from the instructions. I did "make recoveryimage" instead of "make amp amp..." that they recommended. And the obvious deviation, our device is called i9300 not tenderloin. That's the HP Touchpad.

I flashed the latest CM10 nightly from it, the latest siyah kernel and a touchwiz zip and nothing went wrong. Also tested backup and restore. Went fine.

Here is a youtube video demonstrating TWRP on the Galaxy Nexus by some random person on youtube.

[YOUTUBE]D2VlpVKj1eI[/YOUTUBE]

Credits: team win, siyah kernel developer (recycled your zip to make the recovery zip). None of the code is original from me. I only tweaked the recovery.rc to enable adb.
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] shay2911:
sounds Good .

I'll wait for few replies

and I'll test it myself later on

Could you add A video of you showing all the menu's around this recovery ?

one more thing:

did you check that all the functions are working ?
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] AAccount:
Checked flashing. Flashed a cm10 nightly, siyah kernel, cm camera fix, touchwiz launcher. All of those are working. (Say what you want about touchwiz but Ive always liked the launcher) Just checked backup and recovery.

And... my phone is not yet dead as evident from my signature. Video?? How?? Just tape it running from my tablet??

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] shay2911:
yea if you could film it from your tablet or even post an video that shows this recovery on S1 ( you said it was used on s1)

btw where did you find camera fix for cm ?

Edit:

found this video on youtube add it to the main post

this recovery looks amazing

I just flashed this Recovery seems Good one thing bugs me there the slide to confirm it's not smooth but besides the smoothness of the it's great
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] Tom v H:
Thanks for your effort. I love this recovery, it rocks.

I use it on my Asus TF300.

Please also add externalSD support.

Thanks.

SGS3 I9300XXDLIB
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] gavin-phelan:
Wont let me download :s

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Dees_troy is making twrp and im the tester
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] Satch09:
Wow! Did a full 1.17Gig backup in like 10 seconds! Awesome, man thanx a lot, I hated backing up because it took ages especially heavy ROMs like ARHD and the like but now it's a breeze!! One question, am I able to restore CWM backups with TWN?
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] JJEgan:
Excellent interface backed up and restored no problem .

jje
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] saintsinner25:
Works really well.and love the options it has.much more interactive and useful than CWM imo.sorry please dont mind me no disrespect to the fellow developers.

Thanks :) subbed
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] sak500:
Dont give BS m8, it took 7mins to backup ARHD ROM. HOw can you backup almost 2gb of rom in 10secs?

BTW great recovery, much better than CWM been using for ages. Thanks.

Edit: Tried installing few zip mods although it says files installed but there is no mod done.
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] gamin92:
Finally ported to int. S3 ! Thanks AAccount ! This recovery is way much better than CWM.
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] sangosnip69:
Nice work mate, I was waiting for this.
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] saintsinner25:
Tried mounting the system and then installing the mods? Should work that way i guess :S

Sent From My GT-i9300
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] bala_gamer:
Wow... great work Aaccount :) hope you soon add ext sd too
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] Satch09:
Either I'm doing something very worry but it is about that and 2gb is not almost 1.2 gb, 1.9gb is almost 2gb.
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] saintsinner25:
Ext Sd seems to work :| it does read that i have an external sd and the amount of space left in it and all

Sent From My GT-i9300
[Galaxy S III Original Android Development] gavin-phelan:
Will you be fixing ext sd