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[Asus Transformer TF700] huy_lonewolf:
To be honest, what he said is true. While I completely agree with what you said, all the points you have mentioned are rather specific to Android OS, not the SoCs itself (apart from the graphic effects, which result in lower frame rates, though not that significant). In term of raw horsepower, Apple has always been the king of SoC, even the upcoming Snapdragon S4 Pro with Adreno 320 cannot compete with both the A5X in iPad 3 and A6 in iPhone 5. Even though I detest Apple for their unethical business practices, it is true that in term of SoCs, no one can compete with Apple, which still baffles me to this very day, especially when nVidia is known for making gaming GPUs. Imagine you could put the A5X or A6 on the Infinity (or Snapdragon S4 Pro) on the Infinity, lags would probably disappear straight away.

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So after reading all the posts above, am I right to say that the I/O problem is pretty much unchanged? I am having a TW version and still waiting for the update. There seems to be a mixture of results after this update, so I am not quite sure what smoothness level you guys are talking about. Can anyone compare the Infinity on JB with the Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 7? Are they all on the same smoothness level or the Infinity is still slower?
[Asus Transformer TF700] icanfly77:
you dont lose photos and anything stored in SD card mount after factory reset do you?
[Asus Transformer TF700] ishbuggy:
No Mouse Support!

I have a big problem with the TF700 JB update. I can no longer connect a mouse to my tablet's dock via usb. I tried my mouse (Microsoft Arc Touch) and two other mice I had at work, but none would connect. I use it all the time for remoting into PCs and not having a mouse makes it incredibly frustrating (especially with the awesome infinity screen). Has anyone else encountered this?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Ali I Hagen:
I would also be nice if users shared their JB experience including if they have performed factory reset and what serial nr is (C60/C70/C80).

Just to get an overview! :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] cmdrdredd:
When you select factory data reset it lists what is lost.

Google Account, system and app data settings, downloaded apps, music, photos, other user data.
[Asus Transformer TF700] icanfly77:
So it wipes the whole /sdcard/ mount ?

Thats where my photos and music are stored... it sounds strange I mean with my S2 a factory reset just blows away the main partition.. sdcard partition is retained

EDIT: OK I think I got my answer it does wipe /sdcard which is lame.. it's just a data partition normally I thought should be able to stay intact after wipe.. is there any way to bypass this so it doesn't delete /sdcard? Like CWM or receovery options? I got close to 64gb of movies and music on there..
[Asus Transformer TF700] jjdevega:
I don't think there's a way to bypass it.

Just move all your photos and music to ext. Sd (Removable) Factory Reset wont touch the Removable sd card and just dump the rest off to a portable HD or laptop/PC. Then move it back after
[Asus Transformer TF700] pfoxdizzle:
I have been getting freezing and reboots sporadically since updating to 4.1. I did a factory reset and it did not help any. When it works, it works great though! Much faster than it was before.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jjdevega:
Could be an app or Launcher causing issues.
[Asus Transformer TF700] pfoxdizzle:
I am using the stock launcher and the last time i got a random reboot was when i was using google now.

Edit.

Just got another reboot while in the play store. This is getting frustrating
[Asus Transformer TF700] drvsbsm:
Take the card out. That easy.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Philthy82:
Pros: looks smoother to me so far, I'm sure other benefits will pop up as I use it more.

Cons: The two main things I wanted Asus to fix on the Infinity are still the same - Wallpaper not scrolling when swiping home screens, and PS3 controller not being picked up by bluetooth. Both of these features work fine on the Prime, not sure why Asus would disable them on the supposedly superior Infinity. Can anyone else verify bluetooth still doesn't pick up a PS3 controller for them, so I know it's not just my issue?
[Asus Transformer TF700] drvsbsm:
Runs like a champ here not quite as well as the nexus 7, but really the N7 is in another category. Infinity has a lot more pixels to push, a giant step in the right direction for us. Next update will iron out what little is left. Asus is usually good with updates but for now I'm slipping like butter installed over ICS with no problems or factory reset. Now we need custom kernel that cranks the Tegra 3 like on the Nexus 7. Pushing the GPU to the max over clock.

EDIT no IO issues since install it has gotten smoother as well.

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PS3 controller works from what someone posted.
[Asus Transformer TF700] lafester:
what apps do you have installed?

hard to do with internal storage.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Quozl:
Yes PS3 controller is working, what I did was, first turned on blue tooth and tried connecting the PS3 controller, it found it but wouldn't pair as the usual 0000 and 1234 PIN codes didn't work.

After some research I read that you have to plug in the controller via USB to let it pair and then it will work via bluetooth after pairing via USB.

Tried this and it now works perfectly via bluetooth, now going to go and try it in some games.

EDIT: Working perfectly in GTA III, Sonic and Dead Trigger

Cheers Q
[Asus Transformer TF700] drvsbsm:
If see my bad, at least transfer seems a lot faster now on JB. You have to do what you gotta do to save them files.
[Asus Transformer TF700] originalnabisco:
I really miss the scrolling wallpaper from the Prime as well. In fact I think Jellybean took away what was left of the scrolling wallpaper. What I mean was if you use a stock wallpaper on Apex/Nova and scrolled (pre-JB), it would scroll EVER so slightly. Now, not even using Apex/Nova will wallpapers / images scroll :(

I can still get Live Wallpapers to scroll but I'd prefer not to use them.
[Asus Transformer TF700] CandyAndy:
Overall JB seems much smoother and this far haven't got any fcs on google apps as it should been. This has been a huge improvement.

Nevertheless this is nowhere near the smoothness of Galaxy S 3 on jelly bean. Also I just had a weird issue that when I pressed power button it took almost 1 minute before the device woke up. I already thought now it is busted big time and was trying to find some small thing to press the reset button and in the meanwhile the screen went on. Seems like almost didn't wake up from sleep.

Also one huge issue seems to be battery. It is just melting away now.

Unplugged 1,5 hours ago and already down to 70%. Ridiculous that my phone battery now seems to hold much longer than my tablet.

Lets just say if the battery would be same as on ICS this would be a very nice update. Now everything seems so much smoother than its actually very much usable. I hope the battery settles after a day or two but now while I wrote this review (on computer, Infinity screen closed) the battery dropped to 68%..just amazingly bad.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtstatic:
Things I've noticed so far:

-Overall scrolling very fluid in desktop, browser etc. most of the time. I use dolphin browser now, flash plugin was also kept from my previous installation so I can still watch videos on websites etc..

-Still get occasional stutters / hold ups when things get heavy. Perhaps the I/O issue still the main reason here, not bad though if you just wait for a second or two and it will get better again :)

-In some applications noticeable improvements in refresh rate / smoothness, for example sketchbook pro and photoshop touch are actually quite usable for sketching now. This is what surprised me the most :)

Overall I'm quite happy. It's almost perfect for me now. Of course I still feel it could be a bit better, but probably not possible without hardware change. The fact is that this is still pretty much best android tablet out there until someone comes with another full hd screen tablet with better hardware..
[Asus Transformer TF700] bmemoret:
JB on TF700, WW version
[Asus Transformer TF700] Svashtar:
My only, but this is a big one, concern currently is a fact that i can't change DPI.

Sucks big time.

I'll go back to ICS if there will be no solution.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jupppo:
OK, after a day of usage a little summary. I updated without any pteperation, just did a cold boot after. You have to give the tablet some hours to settle after.

- Battery seems to be a bit better now

- WiFi is even stronger than before, I pick up much more nets in my flat

- Flash doesn't work in Opera anymore, but still in Firefox

- Firefox runs significantly quicker now

- UI is smoother

I think its time to unlock and root now. Does anyone know whether the unlock tool works with JB, because it explictly say it works with ICS only.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rikc:
Positive stuff so far:

- Definitely smoother, JB goodness, just like my SGS2 when I went from Cyanogenmod 9 to Cyanogenmod 10

- No more FC's (though I had a lot of apps disabled with Titanium Backup before, bit more conservative this time). Only one strange reboot just after upgrading.

Negative stuff so far

- Dolphin beta will auto-disable flash when you install it fresh! So keep your installed copy safe! (I know this from my SGS2)

- Er... nothing? (I use Holo launcher with 1 desktop screen anyway because I don't like all those screens so no background complaints)

BTW, get your flash player here! (Yes, Adobe let's you download the APK from it's website only does not support it anymore).

http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html
[Asus Transformer TF700] pierrekid:
For those you saying flash wasnt taken away, try out espn.com and see if you can play any videos from the browser. That will really tell you if your browser fully supports flash

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
[Asus Transformer TF700] jupppo:
Works! As I said my Flash in Fireforx is still there and working. Flash in Opera is gone.
[Asus Transformer TF700] HoushaSen:
The biggest upside of JB update for me is the boosted speed of Browser. I essentially deleted all the third party browser now. With stock browser in balance mode Sunspider gave me 900's. Not it is by any means the reflective of the real life experience, but browser is certainly much faster.

The only thing I cannot figure out is after factory reset, I have lost stock browser bookmark sync. Does anyone know how to restore it?
[Asus Transformer TF700] misiek_to_ja:
Is it possible that Asus finally solved the OpenGL out of memory issues (crashing Gmail, browser, stock launcher, Nova or Apex lanucher and other apps if Force GPU rendering is enabled) ? Can anyone else confirm that they don't see OpenGL 0x505 errors in their logs anymore (or the indicated apps don't crash) ? I'm little hesitant to install JB as LBE Privacy Guard does not work on it, but if it solved these OpenGL issues I will give it a try.
[Asus Transformer TF700] suroboyo:
:good: so far, i'm not complaining... smoother yes, but could be better. overall, it's satisfying.

what i don't like is that they take out the unmount storage icon for the removables at the notification. is there any other easy way to do that instead of jumping into settings?
[Asus Transformer TF700] HoushaSen:
Its in the notification. If you pinch out the notification you get the option to unmount.
[Asus Transformer TF700] micaman:
Following a factory reset:

Pros

-Overall a lot smoother

-Stock browser is lighting fast, so much so that I have stoped using boat browser. Speed is similar to what browser2ram did for the stock browser on ics.

-WiFi is stronger. Added -5 to -10 dbm in strength and now able to pick up networks that were not there on ics.

Cons

-none that I can find at the momement although i did have one force close browsing on FB. Mind you I was pushing the stock browser hard.

Conclusion

I finally have the tablet I thought I was buying back in January when I purchased my Prime. Now its time to enjoy it rather than trying to make it work the way it should have out of the box. Thank you JB!
[Asus Transformer TF700] iritoi:
better battery

Besides smoothness, I've noticed another very important enhancement. Surprisingly, the battery drain is less with JB on TF700. Now it's 10% per hour, before it used to be at least 15%, although the WIFI reception has even gone up...

It is either my euphoria keeping the battery better, or indeed, JB has improved it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ChefChaudart:
I got many self-reboot.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pretoriano80:
Same here, JB seems to drain less battery so far and also perform better than ICS. I wasn't expecting a miracle from this update but Asus did i nice job with JB... OH, and we can finally lock the system bar, i was really missing that feature on ICS.
[Asus Transformer TF700] fatpandas:
might as well chime in. generally feels much more responsive and a lot smoother to me. i use gmd gesture control to jump between windows and the transitions are now a lot faster and smoother. and loving google now. as far as my experiences go, everything is good.
[Asus Transformer TF700] james6478:
try mantano as a pdf reader. ive tried many, i love this one. and its free.
[Asus Transformer TF700] nwijma:
Same problem here. You could use Cmarks to solve this, but an integrated solution would be better.
[Asus Transformer TF700] SayWhat10:
I'm getting a bunch of random reboots
[Asus Transformer TF700] james6478:
ADVANTAGES

1. OS in general is smoother/faster

2. Stock browser is fast and smooth

3. Animations are nice

4. google now :)

5. Camera + gallery is alot nicer (also photo capture in video is a good feature)

6. system bar lock

7. improved stock music player

8. improved notifications (i used stock tho, which looks nicer imo)

DISADVANTAGES

1. still choppy here and there, but i hope this will eventually go away

2. chrome is still really choppy. I dont understand how google can make the android broswer smooth, and not make a latter piece of software worse???

so all in all, a lot more advantages than disadvantages
[Asus Transformer TF700] SayWhat10:
What exactly does the stock browser sync to?
[Asus Transformer TF700] dlotters:
I came from unrooted stock, the firmware update applied with no problems but when the tablet attempted to boot for the first time following the update was where my problems began.

Due to my work's policy for exchange based mail, my tablet was encrypted. It was also full of files and so forth, and this seemed to confuse Jelly Bean somewhat. It sat on the Asus bootsplash screen for about 12 hours straight before I finally caved in and resigned myself to the fact that it wouldn't be starting any time soon and I had to factory reset it and wipe my encrypted data partition before it would start properly.

Annoyingly, the only thing I really miss is my progress on Let's Golf 3 :D Everything else is a minor hassle to re-add.

Overall, I'm loving the smoothness, it's rivaling my Nexus 7 now which is awesome!
[Asus Transformer TF700] HoushaSen:
Chrome bookmarks. The reason I prefer stock over chrome are: 1. Faster. 2. Flash support

After factory reset, chrome got much faster for me. Though I still prefer stock as it supports flash.

I don't get random reboots but got couple browser freezing and could not do anything. So had to reboot. No ANR or force close and now browsing point of view, it become my ideal tablet. So I hope this gets fixed..
[Asus Transformer TF700] napkun:
Bluetooth audio lag is gone :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] jjdevega:
Im pretty sure this can be done on both Beta and Dolphin HD. To get flash working on the latest update you will have to navigate using Root explore...

data/data/mobi.mgeek.TunnyBrowser/Shared_prefs and delete mobi.mgeek.TunnyBrowser_preferences.xml. Then go open Dolphin settings/Web content. You should now be seeing flash player saying always on.

I just applied this and it works on Dolphin Hd. ( )
[Asus Transformer TF700] SurferLTU:
Good update...

....the only thing I can't connect to my old Nokia via Bluetooth anymore... restarts by itself while connecting and hangs on with "Asus" logo on the screen.... :eek:
[Asus Transformer TF700] Samzebian:
All you have to do is force gpu rendering under developer options. BUTTERY SMOOTH!
[Asus Transformer TF700] zenaxe:
So far so good. This is the longest I have gone on my 700 without some kind of app crash. I used google maps, nova 3, horn, modern combat 3, nova launcher, and gmail all without rebooting or using a memory cleaner. This is the first time I've been able to use three graphically intense games in a single session without some kind of manual tweaking to avoid the NVIDIA driver bug. In fact, I've NEVER run Nova 3 on the 700 without it eventually crashing before this.

For me this was the biggest issue I had with the TF, everything else is icing for me.

I'm so psyched that it's fixed (even though I still can't believe it took them this long LOL ).
[Asus Transformer TF700] xRevilatioNx:
Here is the Google Now commands..

http://www.addictivetips.com/android/google-now-commands-smart-cards-list/

Enjoy!
[Asus Transformer TF700] cvflowe:
Can I ask, what animations?

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Can I ask, What animations?
[Asus Transformer TF700] xRevilatioNx:
The display transitions going from app to app.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ali4ek:
Different font in notifications.

Power saver option in Settings.

The speed and smoothness of 4.0.3 vs. 4.1.1 is about the same.

It's OK - not great, but not bad either.

The browser is terribly slow, the time it takes between I tap a bookmark and when it's fully loaded is VERY long, compared to my desktop.

Overall, the upgrade is nice, but not really noticeable.

The tablet is still great for watching the movies on the bus; sadly, not really for anything else.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jjdevega:
Good thing its just your opinion;) Mine as well as many others seems to have the opposite experience.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cmdrdredd:
Well comparing a tablet to a desktop computer is real fair. Yeah my overclocked 3570k with 8GB of memory and sli gtx 670s is faster too.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ali4ek:
As long as "butter smooth" is not used as a meaningless mantra on and on, I'm fine with being the only one with "lukewarm" experience.

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I'm only comparing my user experience.

There are many factors, I'm sure.

Including wired connection on the desktop vs. wireless connection on the tablet etc.

But my point is the desktop always wins when I just want to sit with a cup of coffee and browse the Internet, unless I HAVE TO use the tablet (can't sit in front of the desktop etc.).

Am I the only one with the following experience?

I tap on a bookmark.

Chrome window pops up, a new tab is created, then NOTHING for good 3-5 sec, then it loads.

Scrolling is jerky as well.

On the desktop it's more like click, 0.5 sec, fully loaded.
[Asus Transformer TF700] micaman:
Desktop Chrome vs TF700 JB stock browser

[youtube]ahaHXj_NXHM[/youtube]
[Asus Transformer TF700] cmdrdredd:
Chrome is just not as optimized as the stock browser in JB right now. I don't use chrome on my android devices.
[Asus Transformer TF700] RSchlierbeck:
Confirmed

I can confirm the same experience. Chrome seems very slow to load and has no real improvement in responsiveness. To add to that I have found a strange new behavior. Navigation on some web pages does not work. If you search for something on Amazon and it gives you multiple pages. Try to click the 'Next' button. Nothing happens at all. I don't remember this happening on ICS. Just an observation.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ali4ek:
Good point, thanks, I'll try switching to stock JB browser and see if it improves the experience drastically.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Samzebian:
Just enable developer options, then force gpu rendering. So much faster

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And what do you mean by system bar lock!?
[Asus Transformer TF700] xRevilatioNx:
Stock Android Browser is fantastic! It takes buttery smooth to a whole new level. This is the way I wanted to see the browser work since day one. Finally!
[Asus Transformer TF700] sparkym3:
Add one to the list of random reboots. I have seen 1 while using Google plus, and on reboot it finished the start-up animation then went to a black screen and hung. I reboot manually and everything has been fine since then. Hopefully it will not become a pattern. (I was seeing random reboots before upgrade to JB).
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
They introduced sandboxing in the latest version to enhance security. They did this with multi-processing (multithreading). Multithreading creates background IO. Asus' NAND solution doesn't like background IO.

"Chrome for Android brings Chrome’s multi-process architecture to complement Android's security framework."

http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2440264&p=mktg_mobile_security
[Asus Transformer TF700] unixman2000:
No issues so far...

I had a stock Infinity tablet, no root, etc. Updated to .30 before JB came out. Last night downloaded the new system update and in about 20-30 minutes was running on JB. Everything works, I did not have any issues during the update. Speed seems to have improved, Auralux kept crashing on me in ICS but in JB, no crashes.

I'm still testing and I'll start using Chrome again if JB truly fixed it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] LRiley:
was a little choppy after install but after I let it sit overnight its real smotth now
[Asus Transformer TF700] woodsonmh:
Overall everything works from great to okay. I started with very low quadrant scores. Score were 400 to 500 under my old scores. removed bloatware, did system restore. Scores jumped 200+. I know system restore is a pain, however it usually helps performance. Some of the issues I've seen on thread would be solved by reinstalling app or system restore.

I know test scores do not necessarily reflect users experience, but it does give me an idea where I'm at, after updates and installs. It appears they've slowed down 3g and 2g. The scores are mostly in the 50 fps, and i use to see a lot more 60fps. It should not be a problem with video playback, because most videos aren't over 30. I don't know about games but reports I've seen they are running fine. I wonder if they did this for compatibility issues. Someone mentioned they thought tegra3 could not handle screen resolution on infinity. They may have slowed things down so tegra3 could deal with input stream. Glitches might be buffer overload. Interesting is that 3g score is same the score as my acer 500 tab which is a tegra 2. Unfortunately i lost all my screen saves during update.

Woody
[Asus Transformer TF700] codeworks:
For those that have updated both a TF201 and a TF700... Several of the comments on here seem to indicate that the Tegra 3 is not powerful enough to power the HD screen and that even with the JB update, they are still experiencing lag.

For those that updated a TF201. Are you experiencing any lag at all? Smoother than a TF700?

Thanks.
[Asus Transformer TF700] pinn___________:
Lo,

after installing JB from /cache , I'm having difficulty with recovery. Used to press power down then up combo which got me into custom recovery, but now when I do that I'm presented with four icons, mount usb, boot os etc

So if I choose recovery, first I'm presented with an enter password screen for team win recovery - just cancel this as I haven't set a password.

Then in recovery I cant wipe as it won't mount the system etc, or backup.

Any ideas why? Oh, I reinstalled twrp just to be sure.

Thanks