yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
Link to the official thread​

If you find someone posting in this thread direct them to the official thread. The more threads the folks post in the less time available to focus on the main goals.

ROUND 3:

THE ICS LEAK AND THE THEAD HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM XDA AS WELL AS POSTS MADE BY epinter FOR THE PAST COUPLE DAYS!

The official reason as to why this happened

FBI warns users of mobile malware (Google states Jelly Bean has protection that older versions of Android does not)

Cnet Article: FBI warns users of mobile malware

Support My Moto Campaign has been specifically mentioned in latest Cnet article.

A big thanks goes out to Casey Newton and Roger Cheng for mentioning us here at Support My Moto!

Over fourty articles covering Motorola's removal of the ICS update and over ten articles that mention the campaigns

This is the Official Support My Moto Campaign Thread

​

[YOUTUBE]B7HrYgO6uP4[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]SBtWZktkVlM[/YOUTUBE]

Support My Moto! at supportmymoto.com​

A unified campaign backed by developers and you requesting Ice Cream Sandwich & Jellybean updates, source code, and unlocked bootloaders for the owners of Atrix MB860, Atrix MB861, Atrix ME860, Electrify MB853 ,Photon MB855, DROID X2, MB870, XT882, MT870

The main goals of the campaign is to have a unified front in submission of requests for Ice Cream Sandwich & Jellybean updates, source code, and unlocked bootloaders for the owners of Atrix MB860, Atrix MB861, Atrix ME860, Electrify MB853 ,Photon MB855, DROID X2, MB870, XT882, MT870.

What we would like to happen;

Unlock would make JB ROMs available to anybody that wants it.

Updating would cover more moto owners and thereby minimize the impact to Moto's profits and public image.

A clean plan of how the $100 credit is to work as "We're looking into it" type statements are very damaging.

The reason we ask these things is that it gives Motorola room to work with. Once/if Motorola decides to open up a line of communication then specifics could be discussed. Ideally unlock and an update would cover almost all Moto owners. Either way, both solutions would be of benefit to Moto. Even though I'm fronting the campaign I would like to see as many people walk away from it happy, or at least not want to attack each other.

This is achieved by filing Better Business Bureau Complaints, FTC Complaints, emailing The Consumerist and signing the petitions. These things and more can be achieved at the

Support My Moto Website

#supportmymoto Support My Moto IRC chat to discuss issues and tactics

For IRC chat on your phone try AndChat
​

If your company or employer has decided to remove Motorola from the approved supplier list for cell phones, please contact us. We would love to hear from you.

Please remember to submit Support My Moto to the news sites and tech blogs for coverage.

If you are a developer and would like to sign on, post "Count me in!" and I will add you to the list on the website and here as well.

SIGNATURE PIC TO SHOW SUPPORT IS ATTACHED TO THIS POST
[Atrix 4G General] CSharpHeaven:
Just a short note to the hopeless members, if I may.

It is perfectly alright to follow something you believe in even though the outcome to you may be evident in a negative way but this campaign is about more than software updates. We consumers should never make it easier for the corporates to get away with their moral obligations. Thank you!
[Atrix 4G General] hoslayer13:
Agreed

supportmymoto.com

supportmymoto.com
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
I now have a link to the Official supportmymoto petition on the site. I should also have the site cleaned up this eve and add irc chat for better coordination of our efforts.

I'm looking for those that speak Chinese and Russian to get the word out to those forums. PM me if you can help out.
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
Support My Moto Team​

DEVELOPERS

Th3Bill

mof9336

peetr_

zacthespack

Magiman7

upndwn4par

mmontuori

Syl

samcripp

spleef

android-DEP

shabbypenguin

tiger013

k0nane

stevendeb25

epinter

Notorious544d

pinguy1982

italosnt

Contributors

azrienoch of XDA Developer TV

na7q of motosunfire.com

QBKing77 & His Youtube channel Please be sure to send some "Thanks" his way for the video!
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
Found this in my inbox from the man himself

:D

With the coverage from cnet (and articles that have cropped up because of it) the anger over this issue is getting out.
[Atrix 4G General] Deggy:
Feels good to be part of something awesome like this. Motorola can't ignore all this coverage for too long.
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
I've been keeping the Main thread updated to what's going one as well as the site
[Atrix 4G General] upndwn4par:
Even though everyone should be visiting the official thread, it would be a good idea to update the dev list on this thread since many of the devs that have recently supported the cause are from this forum. Just a thought.
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
UPDATE:

"Update My Moto" has closed their campaign. Their site now redirects to supportmymoto.com. Even though I felt the leak was not enough, as it only covered a very limited number of devices, I stated that I would support their decision.

With supportmymoto.com (yours truly) attending the Big Android BBQ, please bump the various threads and spread the word.

Yet another reason to spread the word!

FBI warns users of mobile malware

Google is stated as saying the following;

"Google is aware of this and new features on its latest Android mobile OS -- Jelly Bean 4.1 -- aim to beef up the system's security over past OS iterations. With Jelly Bean's design, Google hopes to defend against hacks that install viruses, along with other malware."

Again, the call goes out to supporters to spread the word and I hope to see some of you at the Big Android BBQ!
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
Joke of the Day!

How do you install the Google Calender App on an 8 month old Tegra2 Moto?

You hit it with a hammer and by a 2 year old HTC Incredible S!

(Out of 44 phones released by major manufacturers in 2011 that have been upgraded to ICS or better, only two are Moto's. This isn't even including the Nexus line. HTC, LG, Samsung and even ZTE, of all people, seem to be able to upgrade their Tegra2 phone to ICS. WTF Moto!)
[Atrix 4G General] matriX1218:
I've never seen such a liar company. Even if Motorola unlock the bootloader and give us the source code, I don't think so I'll ever go for Motorola again.. I feel like begging for my phone and of course I've a standard too... I'm corporate customer and I bought this power house for all my current and future corporate need... Seems I'm pi$$ed of... :mad:

Sent from Motorola Photon 4G via Reliance
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
BIG UPS to those guys on that list!

You guys definitely put more work into the Atrix than Motorola themself.

Thank you for your passion and sharing your work with us since day 1... :)
[Atrix 4G General] Android03:
I couldn't agree more... I wish I could just sell my Motorola and buy an Galaxy S2, But the Atrix 4G has potential to be much better!

Thank you devs! :highfive:
[Atrix 4G General] Victor B:
Props to all those devs supporting this. The Atrix is a great phone, and deserves the support from Moto and Google. I honestly don't know why more effort wasn't put into pumping this phone up.
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
Even with the leak more pressure still needs to be put on moto. Keep spreading the word, boycott their products, give them an incredibly bad 4th quarter earnings. If even then they won't work with the customer, the industry will take notice.

Motorola and Micromax are the only manufacturers, that I can find, to release Tegra2 phones and not update any of them to ICS or JB. Micromax only released one T2 phone so I can let that slide, sorta.
[Atrix 4G General] aaron.a:
First person to statistically prove that webtop 3.0 on lapdock gets better battery life than 2.0 ... what? =)

Let me clarify; Prove the end user experience on ICS is an improvement over GB. Then lulz
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
User experience better than WT2, maybe. WT3 still has many of the user experience bugs I covered over a year ago with Evo Desktop PC. Better user experience than Webtop+ or Ubuntop, not even close. Editing any type or large document or image editing proves that.

Battery life? WT3 is marginally better but with all it's drawbacks it's like trading Win7 for Win3.11 because Win3.11 runs faster on your PC.
[Atrix 4G General] aaron.a:
Good point but judging by the campaign webtop is positioned as a tool for browsing the web, web docs, music/video entertainment and phone functionality. My money says 3.0 takes the win in ALL of these categories. And showcasing this fact on YouTube IMO is the desirable, passive ***** slap moto deserves, as opposed to this boycott moto mentality that is generally ineffective.

Engadget headline: xda Devs lol'd in moto's face
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
"ineffective", I think not. This campaign has already lost moto over a million dollars in sales. One contract cancellation alone cost them a possible $800K sale. You have to remember that Moto didn't ditch a couple phones but millions worldwide. Add in the press coverage by over 40 outlets and the proof that Moto was full of crap, you get the idea as to where this is going. If the estimated sales figures are correct (total estimates place the figure at over 3 million Tegra2 moto's sold worldwide) and only 20% of those affected ditch Moto, then the loss is around 600K devices (if Moto only makes $100 per device that's a 60 million dollar loss). Even Apple couldn't ignore numbers like that.

As far as WT3. It's a launcher. Already proved that a couple days ago. The is nothing really unique to WT3, it's a gimmick. If ICS was out on the Evo back in April of last year, WT3 would have been a one for one copy of Evo Desktop.
[Atrix 4G General] infeu:
support this campaign! and people please think before you buy products from moto since you know their support really crap!
[Atrix 4G General] TonySkate:
+1

Enviado desde mi MB865
[Atrix 4G General] aaron.a:
Ineffective was a poor choice of words on my part. I'm not trying to argue that a boycott of sorts doesn't make a difference and I personally will not be upgrading to a moto device. That's not to say I don't cherish my atrix however. Its just a difference in priorities mate. I feel like a kick to the nuts of the devs over at moto who concluded that an ICS update would not enhance my experience will help me sleep better a night than a few lost customers ;)
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
ICING ON THE CAKE

From Th3Bill;

well, I guess that we're kinda SOL for the Photon to use the libs from Atrix without source.

Got that little nugget of info from Joker (jokersax)

(I was going to play nice at the BBQ put gloves are off at this point. I will be civil, but for those going, do not expect to see more than that in any dealings I may have with Moto)
[Atrix 4G General] ravilov:
Who's to say it was a dev decision? I think the devs actually had very little say in that.
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
Who ever it was thought that tossing a few million out the window was cheaper than paying a couple devs to make it work.
[Atrix 4G General] eddhard:
Congrats on making the portal.
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
Wait! what? huh? when? (been buried in work at the BBQ and got home not long ago)
[Atrix 4G General] gametstr:
Isn't it about time to start a petition towards nvidia to release tegra2 sources? Or wouldn't it make any difference?

i found this http://www.change.org/petitions/nvidia-useful-driver-for-tegra-2-chipset# but its closed

and kudos on making the portal.

Thanks
[Atrix 4G General] rancur3p1c:
know what would work better than a petition? If we all organized to go picket outside AT&T stores. Have signs that say don't buy Motorola. Then when people ask why we tell them how they lie about support and new versions. That would get their attention.
[Atrix 4G General] Lokifish Marz:
In order to consolidate things and save me some time I'm going to lock the thread and direct you to the main thread.

Link to the official thread​
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
Link to the official thread​

If you find someone posting in this thread direct them to the official thread. The more threads the folks post in the less time available to focus on the main goals.

ROUND 3:

THE ICS LEAK AND THE THEAD HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM XDA AS WELL AS POSTS MADE BY epinter FOR THE PAST COUPLE DAYS!

The official reason as to why this happened

FBI warns users of mobile malware (Google states Jelly Bean has protection that older versions of Android does not)

Cnet Article: FBI warns users of mobile malware

Support My Moto Campaign has been specifically mentioned in latest Cnet article.

A big thanks goes out to Casey Newton and Roger Cheng for mentioning us here at Support My Moto!

Over forty articles covering Motorola's removal of the ICS update and over ten articles that mention the campaigns

This is the Official Support My Moto Campaign Thread

​

[YOUTUBE]B7HrYgO6uP4[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]SBtWZktkVlM[/YOUTUBE]

Support My Moto! at supportmymoto.com​

A unified campaign backed by developers and you requesting Ice Cream Sandwich & Jellybean updates, source code, and unlocked bootloaders for the owners of Atrix MB860, Atrix MB861, Atrix ME860, Electrify MB853 ,Photon MB855, DROID X2, MB870, XT882, MT870

The main goals of the campaign is to have a unified front in submission of requests for Ice Cream Sandwich & Jellybean updates, source code, and unlocked bootloaders for the owners of Atrix MB860, Atrix MB861, Atrix ME860, Electrify MB853 ,Photon MB855, DROID X2, MB870, XT882, MT870.

What we would like to happen;

Unlock would make JB ROMs available to anybody that wants it.

Updating would cover more moto owners and thereby minimize the impact to Moto's profits and public image.

A clean plan of how the $100 credit is to work as "We're looking into it" type statements are very damaging.

The reason we ask these things is that it gives Motorola room to work with. Once/if Motorola decides to open up a line of communication then specifics could be discussed. Ideally unlock and an update would cover almost all Moto owners. Either way, both solutions would be of benefit to Moto. Even though I'm fronting the campaign I would like to see as many people walk away from it happy, or at least not want to attack each other.

This is achieved by filing Better Business Bureau Complaints, FTC Complaints, emailing The Consumerist and signing the petitions. These things and more can be achieved at the

Support My Moto Website

#supportmymoto Support My Moto IRC chat to discuss issues and tactics

For IRC chat on your phone try AndChat
​

If your company or employer has decided to remove Motorola from the approved supplier list for cell phones, please contact us. We would love to hear from you.

Please remember to submit Support My Moto to the news sites and tech blogs for coverage.

If you are a developer and would like to sign on, post "Count me in!" and I will add you to the list on the website and here as well.

SIGNATURE PIC TO SHOW SUPPORT IS ATTACHED TO THIS POST
[Motorola Photon 4G] hoslayer13:
I just sent an email to Consumer Reports and it went like this:

It could have been better but it's very late down here. Anyway, before I hit the sack, I just voted for this to be submitted to the xda portal and for all others reading, I urge you all to do the same! :)
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
Thanks!. Hey,could you repost in the official thread?

Support My Moto Team​

DEVELOPERS

Th3Bill

mof9336

peetr_

zacthespack

Magiman7

upndwn4par

mmontuori

Syl

samcripp

spleef

android-DEP

shabbypenguin

tiger013

k0nane

stevendeb25

epinter

Notorious544d

pinguy1982

italosnt

Contributors

azrienoch of XDA Developer TV

na7q of motosunfire.com

QBKing77 & His Youtube channel Please be sure to send some "Thanks" his way for the video!
[Motorola Photon 4G] hoslayer13:
Done and done. I didn't know about it until I pressed the the link in the red font. I'm so used to blue hyperlink text. Lol

supportmymoto.com supportmymoto.com
[Motorola Photon 4G] matriX1218:
Done... :highfive:
[Motorola Photon 4G] NishantM:
I have requested an Indian Technology News website tech2.in.com to cover this news. Got a reply that they will cover this.
[Motorola Photon 4G] GPhoenix:
-- UPDATED: Copying this post to the official thread in the Android General forum.

AWESOME andr0idfreak!! Make sure you post their response or coverage here. ;D :good:

By the way, everyone if it is any constellations if you Google search "Motorola forum" then all the negative coverage of the fact Motorola is dropping ICS/JB updates for our devices are high on the results page. :cool: Only if we can get the same results to come up higher for a search with "Motorola" by itself.

Also, check this out the latest financial results from Google indicates that Motorola Mobility will be faced with additional layoffs unfortunately. You can go there to read up and post your analysis as to how their future may be affected by losing more potential customers due to their decision to drop ICS/JB for our devices. Let's see how that will resonate outside of the Tech circles when they think of Motorola Mobility and Google ownership. It is unfortunate for the employees who are being let go though. =/

Washington Post - Google broadening Motorola job cuts

Chicago Tribune - Google plans more job cuts at Motorola

Times of India - Google warns of job cuts at Motorola

NDTV - Motorola job cuts in Q3 to cost Google $340 mn; more cuts likely
[Motorola Photon 4G] NishantM:
Here's a screenshot of the mail sent to them along with their reply. They are one of the popular tech news website in India.

I'll post an update here once the news is live. The website is http://tech2.in.com

EDIT: Posting this on official thread too.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
I now have a link to the Official supportmymoto petition on the site. I should also have the site cleaned up this eve and add irc chat for better coordination of our efforts.

I'm looking for those that speak Chinese and Russian to get the word out to those forums. PM me if you can help out.
[Motorola Photon 4G] InsanePostman:
Did you get my PM about the broken link?
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
Officially Supporting Developers and Contributors List So Far;

Th3Bill

mof9336

peetr_

zacthespack

Magiman7

upndwn4par

mmontuori

motosunfire.com (Michael Phelps)

QBKing77 & His Youtube channel
[Motorola Photon 4G] KTT16:
Done! Good luck to us all! Thanks to the devs and everyone else supporting! :highfive:
[Motorola Photon 4G] GPhoenix:
By the way, do you think you can contact your connection at Indian Technology News to add a quick note about our campaign at Support/Update My Moto to get more awareness and have others sign the petition? I'm sure we can fill the 2,700+ signatures needed if they join us.

Now we also need someone from South America and possibly China to cover the story too so that it would be a global initiative. :cyclops:
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
Found this in my inbox from the man himself

:D

With the coverage from cnet (and articles that have cropped up because of it) the anger over this issue is getting out.
[Motorola Photon 4G] oldredhat:
Time just did a small piece based on the CNET one:

http://techland.time.com/2012/10/06/will-the-android-upgrade-mess-ever-get-fixed/

That's pretty far reaching.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
I've been keeping the Main thread updated to what's going one as well as the site
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
UPDATE:

"Update My Moto" has closed their campaign. Their site now redirects to supportmymoto.com. Even though I felt the leak was not enough, as it only covered a very limited number of devices, I stated that I would support their decision.

With supportmymoto.com (yours truly) attending the Big Android BBQ, please bump the various threads and spread the word.

Yet another reason to spread the word!

FBI warns users of mobile malware

Google is stated as saying the following;

"Google is aware of this and new features on its latest Android mobile OS -- Jelly Bean 4.1 -- aim to beef up the system's security over past OS iterations. With Jelly Bean's design, Google hopes to defend against hacks that install viruses, along with other malware."

Again, the call goes out to supporters to spread the word and I hope to see some of you at the Big Android BBQ!
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
Joke of the Day!

How do you install the Google Calender App on an 8 month old Tegra2 Moto?

You hit it with a hammer and by a 2 year old HTC Incredible S!

(Out of 44 phones released by major manufacturers in 2011 that have been upgraded to ICS or better, only two are Moto's. This isn't even including the Nexus line. HTC, LG, Samsung and even ZTE, of all people, seem to be able to upgrade their Tegra2 phone to ICS. WTF Moto!)
[Motorola Photon 4G] FernBch:
FTC complaint filed (Moto/Sprint MB855)
[Motorola Photon 4G] GPhoenix:
If Congress can stop/ban ZTE and Huawei for possible spying charges, etc. Could it be possible they force Motorola to provide updates for our phones to prevent vulnerable security leaks and such as well?
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
Seeing moto is losing contracts.........think about it for a second as to why those companies came under scrutiny.
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
Losing contracts?
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
The lack of updates/support is generally a deal breaker under many contracts. For example lets say you run a company that handles secure transactions via a card scanner attached to a phone. Seven months into your contract a security flaw is exposed that shows your data insecure and can be stolen. If the flaw is in the OS, a patch or full update is generally required. Well that phone happens to be a Photon that was declared "End of Life" the month before. The handset manufacturer say that can't fix it on the existing OS and can't update it to the next version. What would you do?

I am not saying such an exploit does exist, this is a hypothetical situation but is based on known exploits in the android OS.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Bock Abrams:
I kind of laughed when I heard Moto did not show at the BBQ, did they have a release on why?
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
Scared
[Motorola Photon 4G] hellot1M:
I work at a sprint store and I have strongly pushed people interested in the photon Q to buy a different device. Because of how they treated this photon and atrix and many of their other devices I will not sell another Motorola device. Since release our store has only sold 2 photon Q's
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
Wow. Eol soon
[Motorola Photon 4G] hellot1M:
Just thought I would let you know that between November 2nd and the 12th the photon Q will be free at sprint... not that I'm going to sell it just showing how desperate Motorola is getting lol
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
Funny
[Motorola Photon 4G] Slender Troll:
What would please us would be an update to ICS, thank you very much. Otherwise, Motorola, forget it. You are going to lose profits because of how you treat your customers.

Motorola Photon 4G
[Motorola Photon 4G] hellot1M:
Yes that's true. It is a great deal though for a $200 phone. I get people all the time that come in asking for a free phone. ATM its the only free smartphone for sprint. I let them know that its going to be free and then go into how I wouldn't buy if given the chance and explain to them why and then suggest the nexus. Its the best budget phone for sprint. Only $100 beats anything at or around that price. Photon normally 199 but when compared to the evo lte and s3 it doesn't stand a chance in sales. I travel between sprint stores and have explained to them Motorola's past and just found out today between the stores I've been to only 14 photons have been sold. Evos and s3's have sold over 200 each the past 2 months. But that's only archtelecom stores
[Motorola Photon 4G] :
I just checked the sprint site.

it's free if you add a new line to your account.

or you're a new customer.