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[Galaxy Note II General] htc6500uk:
The reason that frequencies lower than 1800MHz are preferred is that the lower frequencies suffer less attenuation from buildings etc. Perhaps this is the reason why EE 4G estimated coverage maps specify outdoor coverage. EE are using part of their unused 1800MHz 3G spectrum for their initial 4G service.

Nobody except EE knows whether the bandwidth to their cell sites has been increased for their 4G service. The suspicion is that the 4G service will use part of the existing 'pipe' currently being used exclusively for their 3G service. This would explain why some 3G users are saying that their 3G data rates have dropped. It's just like the contention ratio that affects adsl users. The total bandwidth available at a cell site is shared amongst all the users. If the data pipe is not large enough for the number of users it does not really matter whether thay are using 3G or 4G in the same way that a Fornula One car will go as slowly as a tractor in a traffic jam!
[Galaxy Note II General] jah:
Car phone warehouse refunded me on my 3 week old GT-N7100 as they mis-sold it as 4G. Peeps here will have similar issues with Phones 4U?
[Galaxy Note II General] Surreytoon:
Has anyone had unlocked a network locked N7105, and if so who did you use?
[Galaxy Note II General] RambJoe:
Someone unlocked it and used Three, and got 20mbps on DC-HSPA+.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pyr0x64:
I used www.fastgsm.com

paid $19.99 via paypal (approx £12.50) for a simple imei unlock and had the code within half an hour.
[Galaxy Note II General] RambJoe:
http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Built_for_internetting

Wish I could have got my Note 2 LTE on Three. :(
[Galaxy Note II General] lawtq:
That was me :) use app called unlock phone safe & fast from unlockunit. Cost about 20 dollars

Now I'm just looking for stock T-mobile n7105 rom
[Galaxy Note II General] Surreytoon:
Lol! Who needs EE 4G?!
[Galaxy Note II General] lawtq:
Not me at all! :D
[Galaxy Note II General] htc6500uk:
Would I be right in thinking you are referring to the US T-Mobile rather than the UK company as I had been told that t-mobile UK did not network lock their 7105.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pyr0x64:
My n7105 was direct from t-mobile uk and it was locked to their network.
[Galaxy Note II General] lawtq:
No I'm on about uk t-mobile and the do lock their phones the mothers! Anyone know where I can get their stock n7105 rom?
[Galaxy Note II General] olisun39:
Is Three rolling out LTE or DC-HSPA+?
[Galaxy Note II General] RambJoe:
DC-HSPA+ at first I'm guessing. 50% will have it by Christmas.
[Galaxy Note II General] Surreytoon:
I was under the impression Three was already rolling out DC-HSPA+42
[Galaxy Note II General] RambJoe:
Yeah but now they are marketing it to compete against EE.
[Galaxy Note II General] htc6500uk:
The screencap is using Three UK

Three will have 50% of UK covered with DC-HSPA (42) by Christmas 2012 which will mean they will have more high speed coverage than EE4G for the forseeable future.

More info at: http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Built_for_internetting
[Galaxy Note II General] D3_:
Doesn't the N7100 only have HSPA, not DC-HSPA though?

I read elsewhere on XDA that the N7105 supports DC-HSPA but the N7100 doesn't, which seems a bit silly to me.
[Galaxy Note II General] htc6500uk:
You are quite right - the 7100 does not have DC. I was referring to the speeds achievable in the real world using the Three UK network and did not mean to imply that this was done with any particular phone. I was using a Huawei E587 myfi dongle (which handles Dual Channel) with my 7100 linked to the Huawei via Wireless N to get this speed. I am not sure if the 7105 is DC capable. I have read conflicting reports and, in any case, can't find anywhere selling them sim-free/unlocked in the UK. EE/T-Mobile/Orange have them but they are locked and only available on contract.

I'm now trying to get an unlocked Huawei E589 that will do DC-HSPA as well as LTE on both the EE 1800 band as well as the bands other UK networks will be using from next year. I gather all the LTE devices from EE are locked to their network which adds another hurdle.
[Galaxy Note II General] MISSDIVA:
I've just joined the the T-Mobile Note2 LTE handset party. I upgraded this morning and to my utter astonishment, I was allowed to keep my old contract (Flext 35), my monthly payments will be £21 and I had to pay £169 for the handset. Its an 18 month contract and I will unlock it so that I can use my Three PAYG Sim card in it.

I was going to join Three on their One Plan as was getting truly fed up with T-Mobile but I couldn't ignore such a bargain LoL

Has anyone else managed to get a decent upgrade?
[Galaxy Note II General] gingerprince:
The Mobot hath spoken.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pyr0x64:
Stock Everything Everywhere (T-Mobile/Orange UK) firmware:

http://www.hotfile.com/dl/178173798/d66029d/N7105XXALIJ_N7105EVRALIC_EVR.zip.html

I double checked by unpacking the cache image and checking the (EVR) csc file contents.
[Galaxy Note II General] lawtq:
I love you!
[Galaxy Note II General] Chivalryyyy:
Hi.. Just wondering... Did your contract have the old terms and conditions that allowed 3gb of data a month? And if so had the upgrade kept that 3gb allowance?
[Galaxy Note II General] MISSDIVA:
Tmobile gave me unlimited data last year after I complained about my data allowance,with this upgrade,I still have it:D So when the rep told me what my new price plan was, I swiftly accepted it.
[Galaxy Note II General] Chivalryyyy:
bloody t mobile...

Just got off the phone from retentions... i have 2 phones with them.. and on my phone thats due an upgrade in 4 weeks the best they would offer me is 31 a month with £220 up front!!! and that's with a 1.5gb cap///

They wouldnt let me keep my current tariff (600 mins / 500 txt / 3gb allowance for £23 as they said they couldn't offer the Note 2 on any tariff under £25....

ARRAGGGGGGHHH!!

whats even more annoying is he them told me if that if it was my OTHER phone i was upgrading they could offer the note 2 for £26 with £100 up front ?? i was like.. what the hell?? both phones are on my account! how can they be so different for upgrade offers? both cost £23 a month...
[Galaxy Note II General] flez1966:
On 3 I get a H+ in the status bar. I cant say its been faster for me than t-mobile as they have cut me off beffore I have had a chance to get any measurements... as the stupid store(online) assigned the wrong phone number, thankfully handset wasnt locked, so i just put a three prepay in...

Why worry about 4g on your phone when its not on your network...

And all you will do is zip through your data allowance faster!

on my local 3 station to a server 50km away, 10 mb down 2mb up.

on my local 3 station to a server 40km away, 6.1 mb down 1.7mb up.

so I think I can live with a phone that gets those speeds, 4g or not, how much speed do you need for two player tic-tac-toe....
[Galaxy Note II General] Burko:
I decided to go for a 12 month 4G contract, works out that over the course of the contract I pay £762. (£56 per month, £89 handset cost)

Which with the N7105 retailing at £550ish (is it even out Sim Free in the UK yet?) the unlimited calls, texts and 3gb of data is effectively costing me around £17.50 a month, which doesn't seem to horrendous.

At the end of the 12 months I will decide whether to stick with a 4G plan or move on to a Sim Only plan on a DC HSDPA enabled network which should offer similar speeds.

As a side note, I did a speed test this morning and managed 26meg down and 9meg up. This is connecting to the head office cell which should be one of the most heavily used at the moment.
[Galaxy Note II General] raxje:
On the EE website the 12 month contract at £56 has an upfront cost of £159.99 for me.
[Galaxy Note II General] Burko:
I noticed this the other day, they have now raised the initial price of all of the 12 month handsets.

Looks like I got in at the right time.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
Yes, After the launch & alot of questioning EE stated that their tarrif pricings were the result of many months of hard work getting them just right & finding the "sweet spot".

Then after a short time they wacked an extra lump of money on all the 12mnth contracts ..... they may have spotted that a 12mnth contract & a sim only deal from them for your second year worked out cheaper than a 24mnth contract. AND more inportantly would leave you out of contract to maybe look at the competitors offers whose 4G would all be up running.
[Galaxy Note II General] Burko:
Exactly my plan... look to move in 12 months if they don't change their pricing, they will have to compete with all the other networks offerings by then.

Wouldn't even mind going to T-Mobile for DC-HSDPA speeds, this was just a way to get the N7105 at a decent price.
[Galaxy Note II General] irzero:
lol you are being robbed.

£56 a month? AND £89 handset? LOL

the 3G Note 2 is £420 and the only reason the 4G version isnt is because its not out yet. The 4G one will probably be as cheap or slightly more.

There is hardly any 4G signal. I would rather use 3's network with unlimited everything with speeds between 10-15mbps (faster than Skys ADSL)

Prices are WAY cheaper and unlimited data for a fraction of the cost?
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
I think the guy wanted an LTE phone & 4G contract, when i read your opening line "you are being robbed" i was hoping you were going to enlighten us with a cheaper way to get an LTE Note2 on a EE contract, but you didn't :-\

Also the 4G signal may well be confined to a few small areas but there's an awful lot of people living & working in those areas enjoying the signal.
[Galaxy Note II General] irzero:
There is no way to get a cheaper LTE other than wait for Three to launch a better network and deal.

If you sign up to these deals then basically you are just throwing money at EE. Their network isnt even a network its like a giant WIFI signal over some cities.

EE has suckered people in with their marketing and a promise of a "next gen" network.

Basically they have just taken advantage of early adopters with rip off deals and "3gb" of data? what a laugh that is. So basically they turn up the speed but limit the amount you can use it whilst charging much more?

This is like creating a 5 lane motorway but only letting you use 3 miles of it whilst sticking a toll booth at the end. Its useless.

I expect nothing less from the ****e network that used to be Orange.

EE 4G customers are a shareholders wet dream.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
N7100 wont have the resale value of a N7105 next year & people in the 4G coverage areas with suitable phones are indeed paying alot for it but they aren't being robbed are they, they are paying exactly what that service currently costs.
[Galaxy Note II General] Burko:
Please show me where I can get an N7105 for £420 in the UK?

I work about a quarter of a mile from the EE head office, so guess what... 4G for the entire day.

When i go home... I have wifi, and when i'm out in London.... 4G.

So like I previously said, i've paid £761 for the handset and 12 months of all the calls, texts and data i'm likely to use.

if the phone sim free is £500 than i'm paying £21 per month for the contract, I can live with that.

oh and the reason for getting the N7105 variant is that i can then switch to a DCHSDPA network after 12 months if i want to, the N7100 does not have this ability.
[Galaxy Note II General] irzero:
The 3G version is now £419. The 4G version isnt out yet because it would make EE's prices look like a rip off. There is clearly an exclusive period agreed with Samsung on the 4G variants. But that will end i expect at some point.

£761 is how much i paid for 2 years and a Galaxy S3 with £100 cashback. £661 Net for the 2 years with unlimited everything on Three. i get 10-15mbps HSDPA+ Ill probably get a note for £419 which is £160 net cost after i trade in the S3. total £720 with 2 years service.

11meg means you can download at 1.2mbps There isnt one thing on the web that you cannot do at 1.2mbps but there is a heck of a lot of stuff you cant do once you run out of your 3GB allowance.

Im failing to see where the benefit of EE is at all. You pay 50% more for the deals and lose unlimited data in return for speeds which are only sometimes 50% faster than HSDPA+
[Galaxy Note II General] Burko:
The point is i wanted an N7105. not an N7100.

Like i said, the 4G is an added bonus, it's not something I cant live without, I wanted the N7105, i got the N7105 at a price which i thought was reasonable. Some people think its too much, thats their choice.

For 12 months i will have 4G, i then have the flexibility to choose which network to go for taking the benefit of DC-HSDPA, if I had gone for the N7100 id be stuck on single channel HSDPA.

oh and by the way, i was with Three a few years ago, and i will never go back, no matter how cheap they are....... Put it this way, i hope you dont ever want to leave them....
[Galaxy Note II General] irzero:
Yes i know Three can be a pain but they are only a pain when you have a problem. The best way to leave them is via PAC Code and then its automatic. I have had just as bad problems with 02 and Orange so i dont give them any kudos i just go to the cheapest since they are all crap.

I think you are paying alot for what is essentially very little benefit. You forget that in 1 years time the Note 3 will be out with a 1080p screen and 4G all around.

Its a very high price to pay for early adoption. i understand what its like as usually im an early adopter but the deals are so poor even they put me off.
[Galaxy Note II General] Burko:
To be honest, thats another reason why i went 12 months, so if the note 3 was a significant upgrade, id be out of contract and able to get it.

The problem a lot of people had with 3 was that they left them, heard nothing for years and then started getting letters from debt collectors claiming that bills were unpaid.

When i first saw the EE plans i laughed as much as you did, the cost was stupid, but the 12 month plans seemed to be a lot better value, and i was getting bored of my s2 and needed to get a new toy, lol.
[Galaxy Note II General] irzero:
Since i only get 11-14meg on my home broadband i really dont want to pay all that money for 4G lol
[Galaxy Note II General] EmptyArea:
Just to chime in...

I paid 509 cash for my n7105

Unlock was 11 so that's £520

12.9 pcm gets me unlimited data 5k texts and 20mins. Its 1 month rolling so if I need more minutes I'll switch to whatever I want.

TOC for 1 year. £674.80

For the right phone, on the day I wanted it, I'm happy.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
http://www.samsunggalaxyseriesdeals.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-note-2-lte-payg.html
[Galaxy Note II General] irzero:
not much use is it.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
Nope...., apart from having the current 1800Mhz 4G band & both future 800Mhz & 2.6Ghz UK 4G bands built in. ...& having around an £80 higher value at point of resale (similar to today's price difference) this time next year or so.... & at today's interest rates hardly any less of an investment than money in the bank. .....so yea, what have the Romans ever done for us.
[Galaxy Note II General] DjeMBeY:
SW London..... DC-HSPA+ is AWESOME!!! :))))
[Galaxy Note II General] Burko:
Nice, so you have an N7105?
[Galaxy Note II General] maverick1103:
I was just about to ask that question...
[Galaxy Note II General] Burko:
From his posting history it looks like he has an S3 LTE.
[Galaxy Note II General] maverick1103:
That makes sense then, I was getting all excited then!!
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
If you guys are asking about DC HSPA+ (42mbps) i was under the impression all note2 variants have that.
[Galaxy Note II General] maverick1103:
No 3G version has HSPA+ (21mbps) see here "In terms of connectivity, the European 3G Galaxy Note 2 we’re reviewing (model number GT-N7100) offers data speeds of up to 21Mbps down and 5Mbps up over HSPA+, as well as 802.11n Wifi over 2.4 or 5GHz. There’s also a European LTE version (GT-N7105) that offers 4G connectivity, though that’s unavailable at the time of writing. Over HSPA+, however, the Note 2 was as fast as any comparable smartphone, obtaining data speeds of up to 13Mbps down and 4Mbps up on Three UK’s network. However, the lack of DC-HSPA+ support may cramp your style if you’re used to getting these higher speeds."
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
OK thanks, well that makes an LTE more attractive to me than a dual sim i think.
[Galaxy Note II General] Burko:
The N7105 is available, (I have one) just not available Sim Free.
[Galaxy Note II General] maverick1103:
Sorry this was an extract from an article (old one) is that I copied and pasted for the guy above.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
I knew it was an old article no confusion at my end, shops & eBay have had LTE's for couple of weeks.
[Galaxy Note II General] maverick1103:
The data regarding the the DC-HSPA+ was for you, not about the LTE version being available. :laugh:
[Galaxy Note II General] DjeMBeY:
Yeah, I've got i9305... I'm just testing DC-HSPA+ and was curious how N7105 can handle it...

Today I've found very interesting post: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34789343

He's using N7100 and getting speeds over 20Mbps!!! WTF?? HTF???

Any one can confirm this???

I was 100% sure it won't work on DC-HSPA+(42mbps)....

Edited: He's liar.. Speed Test on WiFi.... :banghead:
[Galaxy Note II General] maverick1103:
Lol just read through that thread, what a muppett, didn't realise his WiFi was still turned on!!

I was going to wait for the N7105 model but as it's only available on EE decided against it and went with 3 and their One Plan. Tbh I always have WiFi available its very rare I don't and 3's speeds where I live give me about 7Mbps when I'm out and about which is plenty quick enough for me! Not worth the extortionate prices if you ask me!!
[Galaxy Note II General] E_Goldstein:
Erm yeah his using wifi LOLOLOLOL this is what I can get on 3 on mine i want the n7105 lol
[Galaxy Note II General] DjeMBeY:
I'm impressed with your score mate!!! I've spend 6months in Hull and was using 3UK.. Never got more than DL 6Mbps on my old SGS2...

Kingston Communication wil be pissed off..... :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Galaxy Note II General] E_Goldstein:
Thats just my closest server on the app im not in Hull. But yeah damn good speed
[Galaxy Note II General] gr8ednz:
Is there a software update that allows lte for N7100

Vodafone New Zealand has just rolled out 4g lte where i live (auckland) 1800mhz. The problem is they're charging twice as much for half the bandwith !! Now i believe they're providing software updates to enable lte capable devices includind my own (N7100) & am wondering if anyone here knows of a workaround to hook into the network. & also what their software update would consist of (modem???) ? Cheers.
[Galaxy Note II General] D3_:
N7100 doesn't support 4g/lte
[Galaxy Note II General] baileyjr:
This is on my N7105 on the "3" network in an area which is supposed to have DC-HSPA+ coverage. I have my doubts personally.

If I get chance I'll run the same test on my mrs N7100 and see how they compare.
[Galaxy Note II General] DjeMBeY:
I'm getting double than that ;)

You can check it in Service Mode (on my S3 LTE, I'm dialing *#0011#) and if you're getting DC-HSPA you'll see it on the bottom of the screen.
[Galaxy Note II General] asdamixedherbs:
has anyone got anywhere near the 80Mbps supposedly offered in the 10 cities that have had double speeds?
[Galaxy Note II General] aguiamaster:
I do get a max speed 60mbps 4G TMN portugal

Upload max i saw was around 40mbps
[Galaxy Note II General] FloatingFatMan:
I really am surprised at how many people are confused by this. It's really VERY simple, folks.

N7100 does not support LTE

N7105 supports LTE
[Galaxy Note II General] astagg:
Just did at speed test for you, at my desk at work I get full H+ connection D: 12.42 Mbps, U: 2.32 Mbps, Ping 92ms

When its good its really good, when its bad though it gets quite slow. Guess it will come down to what the coverage is like in your area, for me it is mostly good.
[Galaxy Note II General] Chivalryyyy:
Wow.... Over 10 times the speed I get on t mobile.... Is that on the one plan?

If I wasn't so put off by 3,s bad reputation and customer service I reckon I would buy this in an instant

Decisions decisions...... :)

36 a month with 100 quid cashback.....
[Galaxy Note II General] :
I'm waiting till the LTE version is out, same price and get more and future proof.
[Galaxy Note II General] Cookie999:
What it actually says is "LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100 - N7105" Note the "N7105" at the end of the entry. Going by what I've read on here, the N7100 is 3G and the N7105 is 4G.
[Galaxy Note II General] ShaKki:
LTE is 3.9G to be correct.

4G is LTE-Advanced with 1Gbit which is starting to roll out mid 2013 according to some european providers...
[Galaxy Note II General] astagg:
Just got the 1-month rolling contract with unlimited data for £15 a month, can't remember its exact name. Yeah customer service does seem poor, had my first experience when wanted them to send me a micro-sim (to replace my normal size sim) and they said it would take 3-5 days to come in the post or cost me £5 to go to the shop. I took my old SIM to a pair of scissors to make it fit instead in the end.
[Galaxy Note II General] htc6500uk:
I can verify the Three network speed for HSDPA+ as given by an earlier post by astagg in this thread. I also confirm that it can be variable.

At least these are real world results on a working network and not pie in the sky theoretical publicity blurb.

Also confirm 7100 is not 4G, 7105 is.
[Galaxy Note II General] mentalmorg:
Hey there, I tethered my device last night to my pc using H+. While downloading a game on steam I got a steady 900kbs that may not be that fast to you guys but my home broadband from sky can only manage 380kbs. As you can imagine I am well happy with this. My contract is the one plan from three. I couldnt be more happier with my phone. Besides us lot from the valleys wont get 4g till 5g is released im sure. Haha.
[Galaxy Note II General] foxmeister:
Not true.

Three specifically do allow tethering on their One Plan.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note II General] saldawop:
Am not bothered by lack of 4G personally.

Whilst it would be nice to be able to download a HD film or Metallicas discography while I am out and about , I cant ever see me actually wanting to do so.

I very rarely tether, and if I do, its to a tablet, so again, just browsing the web or maybe watching a Youtube video or two.

I am currently with 3 and find their HSPDA speeds more than adequate for MY usage.That may well change in the future, but I will wait until there is no premium charged for it and it becomes the norm.

As said above, I dont see that happening in the lifetime of this phone.
[Galaxy Note II General] AjunNg:
You'd be surprised, phone up the 3 sales team and you can negotiate a free price on the phone provided that you join their one plan on £36ppm. Say something like you're on Vodafone at the moment, and are very interested in changing networks to 3. They'll grab you in an instant. If it doesn't work, phone again and hope you get someone with more authority.
[Galaxy Note II General] EmptyArea:
The important question is, what lte bands will the N7105 work on? And how much will it cost? There doesn't appear to be any reliable sources for either.

If it covers both the 1800 and the 800 band then device will be quite future proof. As an estimate after 24months it might be worth 30% more than the 7100 simply because all premium devices will have some form of LTE.

On consideration; the resale difference and the occasional usage difference that will come with an LTE capable phone does have appreciable value, I think everyone should agree to that. It's how much value that's subjective and until we have confirmed specifications for the phone and a price its futile to debate its value or importance.