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[Galaxy Note II General] MadfishGTB:
Based on possible network pricing, data plan limits and general coverage of 4G I think I'll be happy to stick with the HSPA+ for the next 2 years... I can currently watch HD youtube videos with no problem so can't really see a need to go faster. For large downloads I can easily wait until I'm back in wifi coverage for them...

As for three offering free phones on £36/month contacts, well done! Best I could get was free on £40/month... Had to really fight for a grey one though as they have very limited stock and kept pushing the white one.

Almost fell for the three sales ploy that these were LTE ready, dodgy sales tactics nearly lost them a customer. Still thinking of canceling and seeing what deals I can get this weekend for unlocked handset only in the shops...
[Galaxy Note II General] lawtq:
So its been confirmed three uk got their facts wrong about the n7100 working wifh their LTE network?
[Galaxy Note II General] EmptyArea:
I totally agree but its at that 2 year mark which concerns me. I'd like the option to either retain my phone or sell it at a good price. I suspect neither option will be acceptable for a non LTE device. But as boils down to money, we need more info on prices rather than suspicion. See I'd buy a sim free 7105 and use it on a 3g plan for the time being if it was no more than £60 over the 7100 and covered the two bands I mentioned earlier.
[Galaxy Note II General] MadfishGTB:
I trust the guys on here a LOT more than members of the three sales team!

My phone was supposed to arrive Thursday last week but due to stock issues on the grey units its now going to be tuesday (hopefully)

If, and I'm sure it will be, its the n7100 then I know it won't be 4g able...
[Galaxy Note II General] lawtq:
I just called 2 reps from three uk, both assuring me these current note 2 handsets will work on their 4g service. I just dont believe but it'd be nice!
[Galaxy Note II General] tomh235:
As far as I know, three are updating their hspa+ to dual carrier 42mbps so you should get double speeds at least some point soon.

I also had a store manager assure me that they wouldn't be charging any extra for lte when it's rolled out so I wanna know for absolutely sure that I could get unlimited lte tethering at some point in the future before I upgrade now.

Sent from my MB860
[Galaxy Note II General] MadfishGTB:
You would be best waiting for the n7105 before upgrading if you are wanting the LTE capabilities...

Twice the speed of HSPA+ would be more than enough IMO plus I'm not keen on these reports of LTE draining battery life quickly...
[Galaxy Note II General] FloatingFatMan:
It's been stated plenty of times already, but to reiterate, only the N7105 model supports LTE. If you get the N7100, you will NOT be able to use LTE. Period.
[Galaxy Note II General] RambJoe:
Will it be available sim free in the UK? If it's not sim free, we won't be able to get it cheap from mobiles.co.uk etc.

Also I asked about the price on T-mobile web chat the other night, he said it would be £109 upfront on the £36 a month Full Monty. I am due an upgrade on T-mobile atm so I will try to strike a deal on the 15th (I tried phoning last night but they said they don't know the deals till then...).
[Galaxy Note II General] htc6500uk:
I WILL use LTE on my N7000 as I have the Huawei E589 mobile hotspot dongle so I can have my own LTE wifi hotspot. Think this dongle will be very popular as its far cheaper than a new phone.

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The price you were quoted for the 7105 was without the EE 4G extra subscription.Prices still unknown but probably extra £10-£15 a month with data cap on 4G
[Galaxy Note II General] ShaKki:
Well i got an option where i can choose LTE, but i get no connection at all when i activated it at APN Settings
[Galaxy Note II General] RambJoe:
Here it is!!

https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/pay-monthly/samsung-galaxy-note-2-lte-titanium/

Gonna try to get a deal over the phone, if not, does this work?

http://www.topcashback.co.uk/tmobile/
[Galaxy Note II General] MadfishGTB:
Problem with the t-mobile contract is although data is unlimited they do not allow tethering (although how do they know if you are tethering or not? never got that)

Not a bad price though, especially for the LTE version in the best colour :)
[Galaxy Note II General] htc6500uk:
But they have no prices yet for using LTE
[Galaxy Note II General] RambJoe:
Called T-mobile and they said they can't do deals till the 15th...

I can get £120 cashback through Quidco, is that better than any deals T-Mobile will offer me?
[Galaxy Note II General] MadfishGTB:
Same here, just got off the phone to them and they are just taking pre orders at this stage. Packages will be available on the 15th. Not willing to discus moving on prices but thinks that there will be a fixed upfront price on the phone without room to negotiate (same as iphone packages)

As far as 4g /LTE goes you will get the option to shift your contract to EE when it becomes available but there is no information on data allowances or pricing. I imagine it's going to be a pricey affair and not really worth it untill there is better UK wide coverage.

Only advantage I can see is having 4G capable hardware which will increase resale value at the end of the contract term...
[Galaxy Note II General] EmptyArea:
It's a shame they do not seem to have detailed specs. Does it support the 800 band..? Hopefully SIM free preorders will start soon.

Ignoring negrielectronics

http://www.ripoffreport.com/cellula...-com/negrielectronics-com-ryan-negr-3cc71.htm

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Someone who gets it:

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/mo...-think-carefully-about-your-chosen-phone.html
[Galaxy Note II General] MadfishGTB:
Apparently the staff are going for a 6 hour training program on wednesday which is rumored to be about the upcoming EE packages and pricing so might be worthwhile calling back and seeing what they know then...

As for tethering the official standpoint is it is not included in the unlimited data package BUT several customers have been tethering with that package without problem so unofficially it should work OK. This makes T-mobile a viable alternative to Three...
[Galaxy Note II General] EmptyArea:
Guess what guys?

The are two options from t-mobile for the Samsung Note 2 LTE!!!

One for sensible, competent, amenable people with:

Unlimited calls

Unlimited texts

Unlimited data

£39.99 upfront

And 24 months at £46pm

And...

One for applefans who think they'll try the big white one instead because the iPhone 5 is out of stock, which comes with:

Unlimited calls

Unlimited texts

Unlimited data

Only £29.99 upfront!

And 24 months at £61pm

Don't worry fans boys Samsung are apple to give you that sweet ripped off a smugness you get at home. +Bluetooth!

Source:

https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/pay-monthly/samsung-galaxy-note-2-lte-titanium/#cTab-more-deals (see deals)

Yours truly,

EMT
[Galaxy Note II General] Chivalryyyy:
There not the deals i can see on the tmobile site...

other ones i see...

Full monty plan..

Just £41.00 a month

Phone cost £79.00

Plan length 24 months

or £36.00 a month

Phone cost £129.00

Plan length 24 months
[Galaxy Note II General] stoney73:
You have to click the 'select phone and choose plan' button
[Galaxy Note II General] refaat_ashi:
When will it be available in tmobile.? Is it unlocked? Is it LTE 1800 MHz?
[Galaxy Note II General] MadfishGTB:
Packages should be available on the 15th of Cctober, LTE option will happen later and you'll have to migrate your contract from Tmobile to EE. There won't be any financial penalties for migrating but the package won't stay the same price or have the same features...

I imagine an unlimited data package on EE is going to cost considerably more and for the next year+ you're not going to see much use from it based on their UK coverage...
[Galaxy Note II General] htc6500uk:
I read that all EE 4G packages will have a data cap.

Their blurry coverage maps and predictions are for outdoor coverage only.
[Galaxy Note II General] Tinyk:
T-mobile when they first launched the Full Monty Tariffs included Tethering as standard with no Caps what so ever, they changed their terms about a month ago to not include tethering as Standard.

When I first got my iPhone the tethering did not work but after a phone call it was sorted, when asking tech support why it did not work from standard they explained that whilst it was included for free they were not activating it as standard to stop people using it that didn't know it was included. Luckily I got a copy of the terms and conditions from when it was included so don't expect to have any problems with downloading large amounts through tethering. Have to admit though their data speeds are pants compared to 3's one plan which I had previously. Just ordered this Note 2 on 3 one plan and looking at the web site I got it just before they went out of stock on the Grey version.
[Galaxy Note II General] MadfishGTB:
When you getting the grey one?
[Galaxy Note II General] htc6500uk:
Who needs EE 4G when this is what you can get nationwide for less money from Three on a Note II .....
[Galaxy Note II General] MadfishGTB:
Wow, I'm on three and although it's far I'm getting nowhere near those speeds. .. You sure you didn't have your wifi switched on? :) lol
[Galaxy Note II General] jutley:
I just got the white one with the original white flip cover
[Galaxy Note II General] mrvanx:
I tried calling tmobile about an upgrade to this earlier...........jam packed so got no answer!!!

At the moment Im on a desire Z and since there is no options for new qwerty type phones I thought I would go for a note II instead.

The option I have in mind is the £36 per month for 600 mins, 500 txts and 1.5Gb data (which has tethering allowed). Heres hoping the loyalty discount is kept with my upgrade !!! :D ;)

Not sure if my current contract, which is the same except I have the mobile broadband plus upgrade (which is 3Gb with tethering allowed), can continue.

We will see (if i ever get to talk to someone!).

EDIT:: I will be getting the LTE version naturally, I may not go to 4GEE when it launches if it is really expensive but atleast I'll have the option!
[Galaxy Note II General] htc6500uk:
This was definitely Three - I'm lucky to get more than around 7000 Mbs on my home broadband.
[Galaxy Note II General] stoney73:
Am in the same boat, though have taken the step of asking for my pac code to try and get a better deal from retentions. The waiting is a pita.
[Galaxy Note II General] mrvanx:
Well...got through after ~30min and the guy was pretty honest in stating I "might" not get the full discount I have now (which is of no surprise tbh) but he couldnt tell me the specific offers I could get until the handset is released tomorrow.

An interesting bit of info he mentioned was the computer system they use was newly installed on thursday and doesnt offer the same deals/discounts to everyone across the board. ie the discounts and special deals available to me are based on my contract and history......not sure what to make of it but he didnt sound particularly impressed with thier new system.

As usual this could also be B.S but it didnt sound like the usual BS sales excuse/talk we can all spot a mile away.
[Galaxy Note II General] jah:
Re: 3 and HSDPA+

I managed 10mb yesterday and get over 5mb most of the time.
[Galaxy Note II General] BlackCatFTM:
Called T-Mobile upgrades this morning and managed to order the Note 2 LTE.

Rep mentioned that delivery could take 7-10 days... not too chuffed about that, maybe she was just covering her back? (cant see it taking that long)

Conflicting posts from other forums suggest other people trying to upgrade to the Note 2 on T-Mobile today are being told to call back tomorrow instead which is when they are now expecting stock. Not sure why they took my order today though.
[Galaxy Note II General] EmptyArea:
@blackcat

Did you get the full specs of the phone, I'm yet to find a source that shows it will work on EE's network. Which is ridiculous I know.
[Galaxy Note II General] BlackCatFTM:
No, I didn't get full specs, but I did ask "Is this the LTE version that will allow me to migrate over to EE after launch?" The reply I got was "Yes. That's right".

With regards to source, have you seen the phone listed on T-Mobile site?:

{Cant post direct links as I have less than 10 post} t-mobile.co.uk/shop/pay-monthly/samsung-galaxy-note-2-lte-white/

It lists 4G in the spec list as well as a statement of "Buy this 4G ready phone new and move to 4G plan on EE when it launches."

So cant see there being any problems with it working on EE.
[Galaxy Note II General] stoney73:
I know that everyone will have different offers, but do you mind giving an idea of the package they gave you? As in, was it just their standard contract pricing (from this page:http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/pay-monthly/samsung-galaxy-note-2-lte-white/mobile-tariffs/) ?
[Galaxy Note II General] BlackCatFTM:
Yeah. I didn't get any loyalty offer. Wasn't really going to bother haggling as calling them at 8:30am on the first day the LTE phones are/were supposedly being released probably looked a little desperate and they were unlikely to budge!

So I got the Full Monty 36 plan. £129 for the handset, £36 a month for 2000mins, Unlimited texts and Unlimited internet exactly; as on the site for new customers. Sure, there are better deals around but I really so need the Unlimited web and 3 reception is patchy at best here so T-Mobile are my only real option for Unlimited web without going the SIM free route.

Bit of a mystery with regards to their stock though. It has been widely published that today is the day for the Note 2 LTE and I get told a 7-10 day wait. If anyone else orders I'd be interested what story they get from T-Mobile.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pyr0x64:
I tried calling T-Mobile a couple of times today ( i really hate the automated 150 system...)

But each time, I was given different excuses why I could not order.

Either the phone is not on the system yet or they cannot get pricing for existing customers

Or when I phoned retentions I was told they have no official launch date from Samsung.
[Galaxy Note II General] BlackCatFTM:
Odd. Really dunno how I managed it then. She put me on hold while she checked the system but was supposedly able to find it on her system and what she offered me matched up to what they show on their web site.

Starting to worry she has signed me up for a 2nd line just to put the order through but she made no indication of this so it should be an upgrade.
[Galaxy Note II General] mrvanx:
Just one thing to note (no pun intended), you can't tether (according to the T&Cs) with the full monty plan. Standard distance selling regulations apply I believe incase you want to change your mind on the plan.

The "Extra" internet quota allows tethering for definate, tbh im not sure how they would tell you were doing it anyways.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pyr0x64:
I was told that they do not have a system in place right now to tell if you are tethering or to block you
[Galaxy Note II General] EmptyArea:
It wasn't the ee band I was concerned with, its the lack of a reliable source for the other bands it has
[Galaxy Note II General] mrvanx:
JUST got off the phone with Tmobile upgrades.

They offered me my current contract (550 txts, 600 min, Tethering 3GB) if I pay £200 for the handset, I tried to haggle one of the new plans but no dice.

Im oing to call back tomorrow and find out when they will be shipping the handsets and also if I keep my current contract I will also keep my loyalty discount.

URGH! :)
[Galaxy Note II General] RambJoe:
Wow how did you even get them to acknowledge that they actually have Galaxy Note 2s lol?

I'm actually considering not even getting 4G and going with 3 because their customer service is so bad.
[Galaxy Note II General] EmptyArea:
So far the way I see it the price difference between cheapest lte version and cheapest non lte is roughly £200 $_$.

I'll give it a week, if nothing changes, then I'm getting the n7100.
[Galaxy Note II General] pjfriend:
Similar story with me. Called this morning. Promised order would be processed when stock showed on system this afternoon and I'd get a text to confirm. No text came.

I asked if LTE for sure. Guy seemed knowledgeable and confirmed it was.
[Galaxy Note II General] RambJoe:
Yeah the LTE phones in the UK are completely overpriced. It's worse as you can't buy them sim free from third parties, and EE have the market for themselves.
[Galaxy Note II General] BlackCatFTM:
So T-Mobile were happy to upgrade you today (if you had accepted their offer) pending them getting stock?

If so, makes me feel more confident that my "pre-oder upgrade" will be fulfilled correctly and wasn't a sales rep screwing up.

Anyone else had any luck ordering via upgrades today?
[Galaxy Note II General] Chivalryyyy:
Hope you can clear something up for me... i imagine your in a similar boat as me as in that you have a contract under the old T&Cs , allowing 3gb of data use...

I pay £25 for 600 mins , unltd texts and 3gb of data... and i am trying to find out what the situation is when it comes to upgrading..

If i upgrade,, do i keep my currant contract,, keeping my 3gb of data? or do i switch over to the new T&Cs and drop to one of there 500mb / 750mg / 1.5gb plans?

Or do i only have to accept the new lower data contracts if i take out a new contract and dont go the upgrade route?

cheers for any info :o)
[Galaxy Note II General] Clark Joseph Kent:
Thread open until verified...Thank You.
[Galaxy Note II General] stoney73:
Why do you want to close the thread? This isnt a duplicate.

Has anyone received their lte phones yet?
[Galaxy Note II General] BlackCatFTM:
Tracking several threads on numerous forums the general consensus is that T-Mobile were meant to have received the LTE handsets from Samsung by now so shipping could start yesterday but that shipment from Samsung to T-Mobile has been delayed. Information with regards to the stock and new expected shipping dates varies a little but it appears no LTE devices were shipped yesterday as previously expected.

Looks like the situation is changing all the time and more information is filtering to their sales/upgrade team so we just need people to keep sharing their experiences here.
[Galaxy Note II General] ash_c64:
Ok so everyone i talk to from t-mobile as a new customer keep telling they have the note LTE in stock?? But i am not willing to pay £129 for the handset plus 36/monthly so i am not buying it. I want to know if the phone will work with other LTE other then EE in the future before i buy it.
[Galaxy Note II General] jah:
Just called T Mobile they dont have any Notes in stock yet and no firm information on when they will be in stock!
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
This is my exact position also.
[Galaxy Note II General] pjfriend:
Just spoken to them. They've confirmed they have my pre-order and the phone is in testing at the moment. Expect delivery on Thursday or Friday.
[Galaxy Note II General] exparanoia:
We'll need benchmarks as soon as this thing is available. See how it compares to the GT-N7100.
[Galaxy Note II General] lawtq:
T-mobile? They finally have them in stock?
[Galaxy Note II General] pjfriend:
Oh yeah. Quadrant and what else?

They weren't showing in the inventory yet. Just arrived and they were testing before booking them in. Hope to dispatch later today or tomorrow.
[Galaxy Note II General] exparanoia:
AnTuTu.

According to AndroidAuthority (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6frJcsAh0) the LTE version performed 25% weaker than the International version. I'm not sure if there are other factors involved (running apps, etc) but it seems like a big drop in performance.

It would be nice if we could confirm or debunk that.
[Galaxy Note II General] lawtq:
Well its about time they're in stock! If tmobile are to be believed that is. That was just one benchmark. I'm hoping it'll be the same of I'm sticking with 3g
[Galaxy Note II General] pjfriend:
I hope the only difference to the N7100 is the radio. If not, it's going back. Nice as LTE would be, I'm on wifi enough to care far more about the phone speed.
[Galaxy Note II General] mrvanx:
Spoke to upgrades this evening and was told she couldn't check what deals they could do for me as it wasn't fully setup on the system yet!!?? I will try later this week when I can be bothered.

I guess its a different system they use for upgrades rather than normal purchases?? Lol!
[Galaxy Note II General] BlackCatFTM:
Well, I managed to upgrade at 8:30 yesterday with T-Mobile. Wasn't looking for a "deal", was happy to pay new customer prices so just stated the tariff I was after and they processed the upgrade and was told it would take 7-10 days. So maybe they don't have the "deals" for existing customers on the system but upgrades are still possible if you pay the new customer prices which adds you to the pre-order list. The other explanation is they screwed my order up.

If the rumors are true and they are "testing" the phones pending dispatch today/tomorrow then (positive thinking here) those with pre-orders may get shipped out of the door sooner than the upgrade "deals" appear. For me (who is desperate) that would be worth paying the say 20 quid I may save holding off for a discount but that's just me.
[Galaxy Note II General] BlackCatFTM:
Don't suppose you have received the illusive dispatch text message yet have you?
[Galaxy Note II General] pjfriend:
No, nothing yet. :confused: Will post when I hear something.
[Galaxy Note II General] :
Hi I had a phone call from orange retentions yesterday. They offered me the note 2 lte free on the business solo £35 a month tariff and said it will be delivered on wed 23 which is my contract upgrade day. Hope it's true but they did phone me so should be
[Galaxy Note II General] mrvanx:
Hi all,

Spoke AGAIN to tmobile upgrades and was told they are holding them back until the 4G launch at the end of the month!??!

Fairly sure im being fobbed off here now, might be worth a quick chat if you were told it will be delivered this week.
[Galaxy Note II General] pjfriend:
Called them earlier and told expected out tomorrow. They're not very organised are they? :/

Anyone know if the Three handset is the N7100 or the N7105?
[Galaxy Note II General] MadfishGTB:
The handset I got from three is the N7100 model... Wasn't bothered about 4G as it's gonna be a couple of years before it's of any real use in the UK and three's HSPA+ service is nice and fast :)
[Galaxy Note II General] pjfriend:
Thanks. They've been telling people it will be 4G when they roll out the service. Must be using magic!
[Galaxy Note II General] MadfishGTB:
They told me the same but it's not true... they are classing their HSPA+ service as 4G ( a few companies are doing this) where it is more like 3.5G It is fast though, HD youtube videos stream without any issues...
[Galaxy Note II General] pjfriend:
Between T-Mobile messing about, Three's white lies and doubts over the performance of the 4G handsets I think I'm going to cancel my pre-order and hang onto my N7000 for a while longer. Don't think any of them deserve my money.
[Galaxy Note II General] mrvanx:
Just took a look at the tmobile forums, take a look at the most recent post:

http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/discussions/index?page=forums&topic=80101803b651624013a242a123000739f

Bit annoying eh??
[Galaxy Note II General] pjfriend:
Cheers. Think that's pretty much decided it for me. :mad:
[Galaxy Note II General] Chrissssssss:
Hmm. I rang T-Mobile to cancel my contract today as I wanted to buy the Note 2 from mobiles.co.uk but he convinced me to wait til Friday when he said the Note 2 would be available through T-Mobile and they should be able to match the deal.

If the performance is going to be different and there could be a long wait (and possibly a queue/stock wait) then I think I'll ring back and cancel and get the N7100. Not bothered about having 4G at all.