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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ccaparli:
nonsense

I dont trust gorilla glass and the company producing it. My last 4 phones mentioned that they had gorilla glass in the manufacturer's site (desire z, evo 3d, note 2) they have all scratched within the 4-5 days until my screen protectors arrive, and in xda i found that everyone swearing to corning because the phones that the corning mentions as they have gorilla glass, dont have gorilla glass used in their screens and HTC confirmed that.

Also the public tests that were made by trying to scratch the glass with knifes, scissors, blades, keys or screws are meaningless because they are softer than the glass used. They can not scratch gorilla, mineral or sapphire glass or whatever. Only glass that they can scratch is cheap plastic watch glasses or old phone glasses.

Although i am careful about my devices, and in Turkey replacement parts or services are extremely expensive, and i dont want to bother with them, so i use my phones or pc s or etc. as carefully as i can.

However a tiny, little, invisible, ignorable "one" sand particle can ruin these devices.

I have bought my note 2 in the middle of the june, and found an original buff screen protector, at a very low price. It took 3 days to come. in that 3 days in somewhere i have seen that there is a 3 cm diagonal shallow scratch says hello to me.

However that scratch can not be seen after applying the screen protector. ok there is little change in screen colors, or sharpness although the SP is clear, but i disregard it and i am happy with it.

In Turkey, cheap screen protector prices are between 3-8 TLs(1,5-3$) and high quality protectors like (buff, zagg, belkin, etc.) are between 20-50TLs (10-25$). Screen glass of note 2 is approximately 600TL(305$) in samsung service.

If anyone has expectations about a screen protector that after applying it, their phones are indestructible, or perfect, dont pay attention to them. SP s are cosmetic protectors, and protects only from scratches. (ok i have bought buff that the manufacturing company says "it protects from hammer bla bla bla". i am using it to protect from scratches, knowing that hammer bla bla is only for commercial. however what i loved for buff is it can absorb scratches and it s a long life protector)

in conclusion, if i can change screen protector for 10$'s, why will i risk myself to pay %3000 more money, as if we cant raise money from trees or cant find money in streets or parks or etc?;)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vballrkc:
Every phone I've ever had with a touch screen (an old iphone nock off back in the day, the first android phone the G1, Galaxy S1, Galaxy nexus, and now the GNote2) has been scratched and scuffed up to heck by the time my two years was done with that phone, with the exception of the Note2 cause I just got it. Glass is Glass regardless of what they say, "gorrilla" or whatever, it will scratch. it just does. You can't argue it. It scratches because it is so rigid and will not move, so something has to give. A screen protector offers a "flexible" layer to absorb the "grain of sand" or whatever it is that is rubbing against the screen in your pocket or bag. While a protector will not save you from a broken screen or large objects like knives, they do effectively cut out the small scratches and scuffs. If you don't believe me then you've never put a screen protector on a new phone and peeled it off a year later and compared it to a phone of the same age that didn't have a protector on it. night and day difference.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ikithme:
Except for the part where my perfect screen was scratched with normal use of the SPEN on the screen with no screen portector, I highly suggest getting one, yes gorilla glass is great but it doesn't hurt being cautious, I've NEVER had an issue with my screen protectors and the screen being weird.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] refusedchaos:
For me, screen protectors are great for that added protection of a "what-if?"

My screen protector does its job of protecting my phone from my keys
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Tny35:
My galaxy note 2 is the fifth Galaxy that i change.. and i never put a screen protection, and also, i never brake or damage the screen... If i buy a Note 2 i want to use fast and without problem with touch fell!!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] androwars:
protect it from glue

I use screen protector to protect screen from stron glue. Yeah last year my samsung galaxy's screen had a drop of strong glue you know chinese ones and screen now not a surface it has some glue drops on it frozen. So I need to use it. Use the ones that are like carbon fibre. :D They are the best.

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I think so, when I don't protect it, it becomes darker and darker at last it is black. :D I am working as an engineer in a heavy industry factory and my mobile phone really damaged. :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Prankey:
May be the difference lie in where I keep my phones. I used to keep my S1 in the supplied pouch and it was scratchless even after an year of use (though its body had a minor dent on top when it accidentally fell on a tar road - slipped out of the pouch :eek:)

My Note 2 got vertical scratches due to the belt holster rubbing on the screen and probably rubbing the sand in between the holster and the screen it was supposed to protect).

But as my S2 and Note 2 screens are always protected using pouch or a holster and almost never goes in the pocket, they seems to have been protected so far except for these accidents). I am extremely sensitive to scratches especially the mild ones due to which I couldn't stand a protector after using for few weeks no matter how good I tried. So yes while I understand your argument, my experience has been quite different when I take other care to ensure my screen doesn't get scratched from normal use. I normally avoid cleaning the oily layer unless I find dust on it and strictly use a clean microfiber cloth to clean it without putting pressure on the screen.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] thedadio:
I went without a screen protector for one week thinking all was good. Then checked screen with magnifying glass. 2 scratches. The screen has only been in my pocket or on the table at home face up.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
So do you think the scratches self-created or something scratched the phone?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] richardp702:
i prefer a bare screen but I understand the need of a protector for most people. Mine usually come built into my case like the otterbox defender or none at all.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] fade2black101:
Tempered glass
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] borijess:
What type of tempered glass is that?

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 2! ;)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vantt1:
It is the 2.5D Tempered Glass "Bulletproof" (I highly doubt it) screen protector. I like how it is symmetrical in its design.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-5D-Temper...e_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item3a8516e3d7
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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] LordRalh3:
Its amazing how oblivious some people are.... Of course your 3 dollar screen protector gets scratched up... Thats its whole purpose... Your screen doesnt get scratched, when it gets crappy you put a new protector on... 3 dollars every 6-10 months and your screen stays in good shape

gNOTE2 rolling in the north
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] fourpointsix:
The 6 deep scratches on my phone from the ONE time I dropped it make me wish I had a screen protector on from day one. Gorilla glass is hard, but it's by no means the hardest mineral you'll encounter on a typical day.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] koskhandeh:
I managed to scratch my previous phone, an S II (gorilla glass I) with a grain of sand while wiping the screen on the seaside... So, decide for yourselves :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] craigels:
I had no protector on my note 2 and I got 2 scratches on the screen
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
And what were you expecting?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] zoso28:
First of all I can't understand why you wouldn't want to spend $3 on the chance that they do help, but more importantly, there is a reason for them. Of course gorilla glass is a marketing thing, but it's the best option there is right now and despite the conspiracy theories, it is stronger than glass.

I read through & didn't see this mentioned, but basically it works by putting the molecules in a state of tension and compression. Because of this it absorbs impacts more efficiently than regular glass. The only problem is that if it gets scratched, like anything other than a diamond screen would, the entire structure is weakened.

So when an impact occurs, all of the stresses are channeled to that one weak point. When a little piece of sand in your pocket makes a tiny little mark that you barely notice, the gorilla glass is actually more vulnerable than glass. You put wax on your car to prevent acid rain from weakening your clear coat, so why not protect your $600 investment with barely noticeable piece of plastic to protect the integrity of your screen.

I spend about 5 mins putting mine on, and then don't give it a second thought. This is just my 2 cents, but hopefully one or two of you will decide to put one on & potentially save you from a huge headache. Take this with a grain of salt, but I've never had a broken screen or a single scratch when it comes time to sell my device.

Sent from my Note 2 now Free
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] rg1973:
True , is Samsung gonna replace r screen if they do get scratched ,, noo I think I'm gonna protect my 700 plus phone
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apprentice:
Oh, hold on, you are right, Samsung just put that in the manual for fun. I get it now. Afterall what do they know?

My bad.

I shall get a decent case AND you still won't find an ugly silly screen protector on any of my devices. Nope. No way.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apprentice:
You make the perfect point here. I love the screen as the manufacturer intended.

Oh and why on earth do people think that the S-Pen is going to scratch the screen?! It's designed to be used to come into direct contact with the glass. Do people honestly think Samsung are going to produce something which causes damage?

The last time I bought one of these things was about 3 years ago. I am an extensive user of my devices and work outdoors. I haven't had any scratches, because I look after my gear and keep it in a good case.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] luv:
Samsung just put that in the manual for fun. :p and that's why still for fun the sale "Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Clear Screen Protector - ETC-P1J9CEGSTD", they enjoy xda menbers discussions. Don't take it so personnally :p
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Audio Oblivion:
I never used any kind of screen protector for years... even before Gorilla Glass came along.

I was always careful with my devices and never had an issue. My HD2 for instance lasted a good 3 years with no protector at all and not a scratch.... not even a little one.

Then i got a Galaxy Note (first version). Treated it exactly the same way i treat all my devices... with care.

Within two weeks some light scratches appeared on the screen. I'm not even sure how it could have possibly happened but there they were staring me in face.

It annoyed me so much i sold the device and bought another which i immediately covered with a screen protector. No usage problems at all.

I use Martin Fields screen protectors and (on the Note 1 at least) if its fitted properly you wont even notice its there.

I will be doing exactly the same as soon as i get a Note 2.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] DMax99:
My cheap screen protector works with the pen. The only thing different is the feel of the tip of the pen. Cant really feek the rubber tip anymore, feels more like a plastic tip with the screen protector

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My cheap screen protector works fine with the pen. The only thing different is the feel of the tip of the pen. Cant really feek the rubber tip anymore, feels more like a plastic tip with the screen protector
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] EpicDom:
I feel like I'd scratch it badly because I'm quite expressive with my drawings. Right now I'm too scared to draw on my phone. It would be fine for normal uses, but I want to use it primarily for drawing.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] madman604:
no one seems to mention the resale value of a phone with a scratched screen VS a perfect one. Personally i wouldn't touch a phone with a scatched screen I don't care if its dropped or scuffed, but if the screen isn't perfect, no deal.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] twistedvegan:
When you pay £500 for a phone why would you not want to keep it in mint condition?

I've always used screen protectors but there is a massive difference been the cheap ones and the good ones.

The cheap ones will scratch if you so much as breath on them or put them in your pocket and will look awful within a week. That's why they sell them in multi packs

Zagg ones tend to be very tricky to fit without getting bubbles and involve getting the phone wet while you fit them. They also have an orange peel look to them and feel sticky so you lose the silky smooth feel of glass.

The best one I've found so far is the atfolix fx which still feels fairly smooth and has a matt finish so reduces glare brilliantly. It does reduce the brightness slightly but with the ability to adjust the auto brightness on the note 2 this is no longer an issue, though it may effect battery life slightly.

I had an atfolix fx on my gs2 for a year and it is still perfect with no bubbles or scratches and my phone gets used heavily every day. They've got them on amazon now for £7 including postage and I highly recommend them.

I've not tried any of the other brands but I'm sure there are plenty of good ones out there, the atfolix is the only one I've found that actually improves the screen. I used to get lots of comments from friends with gs2's about how my screen looked better.

If you use your phone a lot and plan on selling it on when the next flagship device comes along then a case and screen protector is essential, otherwise you may as well just take £100 and throw it in the bin cause the chances that the phone will still be mint when you sell it in a year are pretty slim.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Twistedchild420:
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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] farfromovin:
^ This! I used to spend $30-$60 per phone per year on varying screen protectors. Then I realized it doesn't even cover itself on the resale back end assuming you treat your phone reasonably well. Plus, everything quoted above.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] DMax99:
Sometimes its not just the resale value, but it makes me feel bad everytime when I seescratches on my phone
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] foxmeister:
The pen in its own won't scratch the screen, but if you get a bit of grit or sand between the nib and the screen, you may end up with a scratch.

Personally I'm not a fan of screen protectors, but I understand why some people are.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] drexappeal:
I'm a fan of SGP/Spigen screen protectors and intend on getting one. Who knows how "true" this really is. There's also warnings about using non-OEM micro-USB chargers and I've never experienced any issues with that on any of my devices either.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] planoman:
I have pre ordered the same screen protector. Do not know when I will get my GNote2 but will be ready. You also ge top dollar when you sell the phone if you have had it screen protected. Even if the protector get a few scratches, you can just peel it off to revel a perfect screen underneath when selling.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] erick161:
Its personal preference people. Its the same reason I buy a case for my phones as well. Extra protection. I've had a smartphone since the OG iPhone and every phone in between has always had a screen protector including my note...period.

The beauty of a good protector is...you don't know its there! And when it gets scratched enough, I swap it out for a fresh one. 99% of scratches on the film have never gone through the film.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] daddioj:
everyone has there own opinion on things. and heres mine. over 700 dollars. no screen protector = Idiot. lol.. i'm sorry you just dont know no matter how careful you are. i agree the phone is beautiful without one. but wouldnt risk it gorilla glass or not. glass is glass no matter if its gorilla monkey or donkey glass lol. even a faint scratch would annoy the living crap out of me
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] CGI_Ram:
No need for screen protectors on the Note.

Unless you plan on dragging it on the pavement or something.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ChodTheWacko:
It's in their best interest to put warnings to protect themselves, because they have no idea what you are going to protect your screen with.

It's the same reason the manual also says, 'Use only Samsung batteries, and samsung battery chargers.' - they can also damage your device too.

Bottom line - the N7100 uses the same wacom technology that the N7000 used.

There were tons of people using screen protectors of all types on the N7000 and they didn't have problems.

The N7100 will be no different.

- Frank
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] finalhit:
you guys know samsung doesn't like it when we root our phones right?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Braneless:
Hmm. I used my Galaxy Nexus for over a year with zero issues (which was great, as I hate screen protectors). My Note lasted exactly 2 days before suffering multiple scratches to the screen :(

Contrary to popular belief, the Note 2's screen can scratch Very easily under the right circumstances. Sand or metal particles will scratch Gorilla Glass in a hurry.

I use the Samsung flip cover on my phone; the soft fiber cover entrapped miniscule metal filings which promptly scratched my screen and promptly pissed me off. You'd be surprised at how easily it is to pick up sand or metal from the air or your hands. This is probably not an issue unless you use a flip cover or case which does not make direct contact or slide over the screen. Too late for me though.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] shelooga:
heres what i do to prevent scratches: treat my phone like it cost me 700$

when that fails: have insurance with no deductible

i dont get the point of screen protectors unless you plan on reselling your phone. i dont do that, so a scratch on a screen protector is just as annoying as one on my screen. personal preference. like how i prefer good beer to anything made by anheusher busch.

sure, its not for me, and the people that use it are retarded, but to each their own. ill only slightly mock you for being so clumsy or simple minded
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Braneless:
Well, here's the thing: I did treat my phone extremely gently, but **** happens. Now that it's done, a zagg's has concealed existing damage and will prevent future damage. As mentioned, I also hate screen protectors, but I hate scratches even more.

In regards to insurance, many people (including myself) believe that it is a waste of money (even for an expensive device) and a poor use of cash. Think about how much the average person pays per mo/yr for insurance and then consider what they actually gain from it. Different strokes, I guess.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] bertmansk:
Sorry to res this thread again, but I just wanted to share my 1-Euro screen protector story.

Back when I had an iPhone 4, just before I sold it after having owned it for 2 years (still pristine condition), I dropped it while driving my Vespa doing ~50 KM/h (about 30 MPH). The phone flipped a couple times and finally slid on the street for... I don't know, 30 feet. I was so angry, I just pocketed it without looking at it, and returned home.

Got home, checked it out. Needless to say, it was VERY scratched on both sides, even had some holes in the protectors. I took the front and back protectors off and not a single scratch or crack on either side.

My €1 screen protector(s) saved my phone, allowing me to resell my phone at full value. I know for a fact that without it that day, I would have had to replace the screen (glass) and back cover. Gorilla glass or not. Lucky none of the sides/bezel were damaged.

When applied properly, you can't tell the phone has a screen protector unless you go to look for it. It's one thing to have an opinion/disagree with someone, but I'm saying OP is 100% wrong.

Now using Glass-M on my new Xperia Z1.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Hälftebyte:
110% wrong

Gesendet von meinem SAMSUNG-SCH-I605 mit Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] emeianoite:
I'm used this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009EARWX0/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

since i've had my galaxy note 2 on release last year.

Never had any problems with it, I usually change them out every year to keep the screen looking fresh and throw out the damaged protectors. Easy to apply and they have no issue with my s pen, which I use regularly when I surf dur werbs.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vantt1:
Hahaha, joke's on the OP

This is why you shouldn't use a plastic screen protector. Instead, you should use a tempered glass screen protector! A few reasons why:

It's as if you weren't using one at all!

No rainbow effect found on clear protectors or fuzzy/grainy appearance from matte protectors

Oleophobic/Hydrophobic

Easy, bubble-free application

Does not peel off by itself

Doesn't only protect from scratches, but also from a bit of moderate damage too

Does not interfere with the operation of the S-Pen
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kms108:
I 've had a glass screen protector on my note2 for about a year, does what it suppose to do, and does it pretty well, with no affect to functionality.

Glass protectors are really cheap sold on ebay from little as 6 USD, no matter what quality it is, or brand, it does the job.

Spend only USD 6, and protect a screen costing 100+ USD.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] devildogmp:
I use a screen protector. No "malfunctions" at all. Is it illegal to protect my screen?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] emeianoite:
Are the glass protectors that much better than the normal floppy ones?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vantt1:
They are THAT much better. Why would you want to cover the beautiful glass display with a piece of plastic film? Tempered glass is the next best thing to not using a screen protector.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kms108:
Prices of the pet and glass protector isn't much different now, only a few $$$ different, why have less protection on a USD 500 + phone.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Mashed_Potatoes:
I've been using my phone for 2 months now without any screen protector, and i have no scratches. I have a microfibre cloth for cleaning the screen once in a while, and i take good care of my phones. I also try to avoid sand and sand-like particles. You just have to be careful, even glass can get scratched. (only by materials that are tougher than the glass itself, like some metals and sand)

I had an Anti-glare screen protector for a day and it was awful. The phone looked ugly, the screen lost a lot on quality. It looked like a cheap LCD panel from lets say, Samsung Galaxy Ace. I got rid of it after a few hours of thinking.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] calichelozano:
I have an n7100 with screen protector and it works perfectly. The thing is this protector doesn't cover the sensors and doesn't look ugly at all. I know it will save me from ugly scratches with fust, sand or a terrible fall. Must have if you ask me.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] crzycrkr:
Yet...you have no scratches yet. And you can try to avoid sand all you like, but it's everywhere. The reason the screen protector you had looked horrible was because it was a cheap anti glare. Any good quality PET or glass protector at this point is invisible once correctly applied.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Mashed_Potatoes:
Yet. I had a Samsung Wave 3 for a year, with Gorilla Glass 1 and no protector. Guess what, sold it, in perfect condition, ZERO scratches. And i didn't pay attention to it as nearly as i do with the Note 2.