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[Asus Transformer TF700] chucky7910:
Ok so I'm going to add my two cents into this.

I for one think the JB upgrade is amazing. I had two different primes, then switched to the t700 with the help of best buy. For whatever reason I had issues with the JB update failing on my infinity so I just exchanged it for a new one. After rooting, saving root, and then upgrading and restoring root I have to say the transitions, app start up and overall performance is amazingly different. The transitions between pages on the desktop are as smooth as my wife's ipad is. Now I did do the upgrade on a stock brand spanking new infinity though. I did find that on my original infinity I got a much smoother experience overall if i did NOT use any other launcher except the stock launcher. In fact I eventually had to remove almost all of the "tweaks" to improve battery life because I found it to interfere with apps and performance.

I will also say that I have always used Chrome browser and have found it to be quite a bit better with JB.

I think its very plausible that peoples experiences with JB are variable due to differences in the hardware or QC of various lots or, and perhaps more likely, how different people have "tweaked" their T700.

Remember anytime you do something to the programming of a tablet that is not stock you risk doing something that could have adverse effects. This was most likely the case as to why I couldn't update to JB on my first T700,

I agree with those that say you should completely wipe and bring your tablet back to full fledged stock out the box form, then update to JB. I was going to do this with my other T700 but simply didn't have the time to mess with it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] LEGOracer69:
What if I have stuff dumped using NVflash, and I have later updated to JB, I have lost root, and my device was unlocked, not AndroidRoot like before. And after update I have downgraded to ICS (option in status bar)
[Asus Transformer TF700] dgjl:
I've had the TF700 for about 48 hours now and I upgraded to JB our of the box, so no need for reset of any kind. For a fair while I was quite ambivalent. Yes, it was better than my TF201 (which I bricked) and the screen is outstanding. But I couldn't understand the prasie for the Stock Browser - I found it not much faster than Dolphin on my TF201 - and I was expecting a lot more (sometimes it was slower...) and it was laggy and juddery until the page had fully loaded; then it worked very well. I tried Dolphin on theTF700 and found it wretched - but last night I put on Dolphin Beta. Now this is a marked improvement over stock and previous Prime experience :good: JB is also smoother throughout, though perhaps not much faster. Stock browser has now be relegated to a JB flash player and I'm a lot happier. But it's the screen, the screen that beautiful screen that makes all the difference!
[Asus Transformer TF700] LEGOracer69:
Okay I have upgraded to Jelly Bean, but I'm stuck at installing recovery:

sending 'recovery' (6756 KB)...

FAILED (data transfer failure (Too many links))

finished. total time: 39.584s

C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>
[Asus Transformer TF700] LEGOracer69:
OKAY!! I dedicate this post to everybody with problems! If you are connecting to PC WITH dock conected it won't WORK!! unplug the DOCK!
[Asus Transformer TF700] HoushaSen:
Don't know what exactly is but I noticed my stock browser got slower. Probably had nothing to do with, but only thing I could have think of was the installation of System Tuner Pro by 3D, which I did it couple days ago but had primarily been using Chrome to test out different thing since. So initially cold reboot. Still felt slow. So I uninstall the System Tuner, and reboot. Suddenly got back faster. And the difference is significant enough that if I had not known the stock browser after original JB update being so fast, I would have basically said horrible stock browser as before. But knowing, it could be better i tried different things. I now have System Tuner Pro back installed, but stock browser seem to run fine. So may be had nothing to do with.

Other thing you may want to check is RAM usage. One time I felt system was slow, and noticed RAM usage went up to only 100+MB left. Even after reboot still only 300+MB left. But I kept using it for 30 minutes or so and felt system got faster. So went back to look at memory, now I had ~500MB free. Again, may just be coincidence, but another thing to watch out for.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rikc:
If you don't like the performance simply disable any unused apps and services. It made a great difference for me with ICS and also gives the edge in JB. You can disable a lot after 'uninstalling updates'. Rooted people like me can then use TB to disable the last few tidbits they don't deem nescessery. For instance I even disabled google maps (which is also running a service) because I do seee it's use on a phone and use it there often, but don't really use it on a tablet that I use as a laptop most of the time.
[Asus Transformer TF700] maedox:
Just for the record I have cold booted and factory reset my tablet after upgrading to JB, and not installed anything 3rd party. Yet I still find the performance in many areas to be infuriatingly bad. To the degree where I get so annoyed by waiting for apps to respond that I put the tablet down and go do something else. (Probably a good thing in many cases :p)

Many people mention disabling apps and so on. That's all well and good, and might actually help, but don't you agree that it shouldn't be necessary? There's no denying Asus has shipped a product that doesn't perform as it should, and it's all down to them using a flash storage device without dedicated RAM on-board. That's what gets me, because I know it could have been absolutely ridiculously awesome if they had just used common sense and put in a few extra bucks to get a proper storage device. I feel like they are betting on most of their customers not bothering to return the tablet, or best of all, that they won't notice the completely unnecessary shortcomings.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
I just don't see the performance issues that you keep talking about. Maybe you have a bad device? I'll get the occasional "pause" while downloading a few apps in the background at the same time, but other than that, this things runs beautifully...

Can you give us a few specific examples of what you are doing and what performance issue it causes? That way, other users can attempt the exact same thing and see what the results are.

Regarding the "we shouldn't have to..." comment. You are correct - in a perfect world, everything would just work perfectly out-of-the-box. Sadly, we don't live in a perfect world. You also have to remember that this tablet is a "cutting-edge" Android tablet. I think there may be one other full HD Android tablet and even that doesn't have a keyboard dock option. My point is that most folks buying this product actually *expect* that things are not going to be perfect out-of-the-box and that it will require some patience and/or tuning to get the device running "perfectly".

Regardless, the performance of a TF700 that doesn't have any hardware issues is *certainly* not *nearly* as bad as you make it out of be. Some would even say that it performs very well!

Again, please give some specific examples of some of the performance issues are seeing. Maybe you really do have a faulty device....
[Asus Transformer TF700] icecreampaintjob:
browser screams

okay this is getting weird it does seem like these devices perform differently because mine it's absolutely screams in the browser. as soon as I updated it started hitting 8 hundreds on sun spider and almost 200,000 on browser mark. I couldn't be more pleased with the butteryness of this tab . truly do you think they're all different
[Asus Transformer TF700] furou:
I get great smoothness when opening the app drawer and sometimes switching between apps. However, sometimes it gets laggy, especially while downloading in the background.. browser experience is pretty bad. Android keyboard has lag every now and then but at least it's not as bad as with Asus keyboard.

Seeing as how user experience varies so much, I suggest those who report great performance and smoothness to upload a video on YouTube so the rest can compare. It can help people like me who are wondering, is my device running as fast as it could? Am I being nitpicky or should I consider sending it back? It would be very helpful to actually see what everyone is talking about.
[Asus Transformer TF700] drew68:
I had to factory reset twice and now mine is running a lot smoother. The first reset didn't help but the second did and now i'm happy!
[Asus Transformer TF700] urrlyx:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32316636&postcount=31

Mine is just about like what you see in that video.
[Asus Transformer TF700] SurferLTU:
From all reviews and my own experience of using tab since JB update it is clear that JB's smoothness or whatever butter it is called is very inconsistent. One day it runs like F1 another it's pain in the *ss... it seems that performance of stock browser and all system pretty much depends on free RAM... each time when system becomes very slow I restart tab and it helps for some time...but after lots of activities it slows down again...

I'm not computer technician...but it seems that system needs better RAM management... I hope Asus will fix this...

Oh I'm starting to feel tired of these never ending fixes...
[Asus Transformer TF700] wfee:
I just got my Transformer (sold the ipad2) and I can't believe that this tablets performance is so bad. I hated the iPad but it was so much smoother than this thing. I'm honestly thinking of taking it back and getting the Note. I updated the transformer right out of the box and it's killing me that it still keeps hanging up, freezing and just down right slow.
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
So ever since i installed JB, i have been having a few issues:

1 - sometimes, my home screen will be blank. Only way to get my icons to show, is by going to my apps, or swiping to the next page and then going back.

2 - The tablet keeps rebooting. But, it doesnt come back. It just stay with the Asus logo and the spining icon.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
You need to refash with full firmware package (download from Asus).
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
Thanks.

http://support.asus.com/Download.as...&m=ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T&os=32

I can download this to a thumb drive and install it? If so, how? I am not rooted.

I download the zip file to my thumb drive. Can i install it using the method mentioned here?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1917195&highlight=hidden

If not, please, i would greatly appreciate it, if u can give me exact details on what to do. Thanks.
[Asus Transformer TF700] PolishPoet:
There is a definite improvement. If you haven't already try doing a factory reset. I don't understand why people are on their 3rd, 4th OR(INSERT ANY NUMBER HERE) SAME MAKE OF TABLET. I don't think there is any device that I'd do more than 2 of before I gave up on that and moved on the another brand/device. Is there a contest to see how many Transformers anyone can buy and return that I don't know about?
[Asus Transformer TF700] SayWhat10:
Or have you just done a factory reset?

That stopped my reboots after installing jb
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
i did a factory reset right after installing JB
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
If you're not rooted, download from Asus, unzip the file and rename to EP201_768_SDUPDATE.zip (if it's not named correctly). Now copy the EP201_768_SDUPDATE.zip to the root of your external micro SD card. Turn off your device boot into stock recovery and by default it should selected RCK (recovery), it should find the update file and install. It's going to wipe all data first before it installed so make sure you back up your stuff.
[Asus Transformer TF700] urrlyx:
Sounds very much like you have a memory leak. Have you tried a factory reset?
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
Thanks. I was able to get it done.
[Asus Transformer TF700] SurferLTU:
No I haven't.... I think I'll try ...
[Asus Transformer TF700] huy_lonewolf:
I am a bit perplexed as to why people have so different experiences on Jelly Bean. For me, my Infinity on Jelly Bean is nothing short of a wonder. I am running full stock, and I am already very satisfied with the performance, though of course it is not on the same level as the Nexus 7. The stock browser is really, really fast and I am pretty sure that it is the standard performance of the tab on JB. I have never had any reboot, shutdown, boot loop of any kind. None whatsoever. I honestly cannot imagine someone complaining that JB update is bad, it's like saying Windows 7 is slow and prone to crashing. I am not saying that the JB update is perfect, but when JB works as intended, the improvement is so obvious.
[Asus Transformer TF700] indie13:
I know its been said a hundred times but mine was a total dog after the update but I did a factory reset and the device flies. Really just do it before talking abiut poor performance.
[Asus Transformer TF700] danny316:
Can you help me out with a step by step guide on how to manually install the firmware please? I cant get it to install.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
Tell us your setup, locked or unlocked? firmware version (.26, .30), rooted? upgrade from what version to what version?
[Asus Transformer TF700] danny316:
I'm already running jelly bean but I read that maybe manually installing the firmware again would get rid of the lag and the random reboots. I already did a factory reset and that didn't work. I'm not rooted
[Asus Transformer TF700] Tek_No:
Was that "Factory Reset" a "cold reboot" or a real "Wipe Data"?

If first upgraded to JB over OTA: lags, crashes and reboots at random (even when opening a simple exchange email).

So I decided to start uninstalling apps to see if there was one that would be causing these reboots: didn't help.

Then I did a "cold reboot" but this did not solve the problem either.

So finally I did a "Wipe Data", configured JB from scratch (entering Language, Wifi setup, etc...) and reinstalled my apps from scratch: since then JB is flying on my Infinity and so far I did not have a single reboot or crash...
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
You bet it would. Do a factory reset first (3 times), reflash your full version firmware (download from Asus site), (factory reset 3 times), restore/reinstall your apps. If you need root, you have to downgrade back to .30 then upgrade to JB. Do the same, factory reset 3 times, install .30 version, factory reset 3 times, root your device, install root keeper to save root, ota upgrade to JB, use root keeper to restore root. Many reported that factory reset 3 times will "super clean your system", I highly recommended.
[Asus Transformer TF700] danny316:
I think I did a wipe data since it erased everything from the device.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
99% of the time wipe data will not solved the random reboot or white screen issue.
[Asus Transformer TF700] okantomi:
Why are you suggesting doing a FR 3 times over and over again? I not trying to be argumentative, just trying to see the logic? Seems more like a ritual.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Agreed - a factory reset is a factory reset - can't see the need to do it 3 times (especially before *and* after a ROM install)! I can't see how doing three factory resets would do anything different than doing one factory reset...
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
i just performed my 3rd HR since installing JB, and not because i wanted to. I was ready to toss this device last night. If all doesnt go well today, i will sell this and wait for something else.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
There are people who reported that 1 FReset did not completely wipe everything (I can send you a link), this is more like your choice, it only take a few min more, not going to hurt anything. Just to be on a safe side, why not?
[Asus Transformer TF700] pierrekid:
I can confirm this. Although i did not have to go 3 times. I FR 2 times and after a cold boot, this thing is flying!

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
Thank you, case closed.
[Asus Transformer TF700] SurferLTU:
Second day after FR.... I would say factory reset is a MUST! :good:
[Asus Transformer TF700] okantomi:
Hey timrock, what's the problem? Is it performance or are you stuck?
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
you mean problems.

after jb - 1st hard reset

i was having issues with reboots ever since i installed JB. Reboots, and freezing. Also, the media on my memory card would not function without rebooting the device. Lastly, when going to the home screen, it would appear blank until i swiped to another screen and then back. someone suggested i hard reset and reinstall JB

did that - 2nd hard reset

reinstalled everything. still lag. i would turn on my tablet, enter my code and it would be fine. Mind you, im holding it in landscape. When i turn it back on while holding in portrait, it would not switch to protrait mode. even after i put in my code. the device would then freeze and reboot. but, it would not start back up. the icon just kept spinning. soft reset to get it back. At this point im totally frustrated. I even think about posting it online right then and there. But i dont give up. Oh, another issue was, when i try to type something, they keyboard would freeze, the cursor would be blinking, but i was unable to type. i couldnt even get rid of the keyboard. even if i go to my home screen, the keyboard is still visible. i put it to sleep and woke it back up, keyboard still there, even though its asking me for my unlock code.

3rd hard reset. As of now, everything seems fine. Got my apps back up and running. No reboots yet. Switching between portrait and landscape is not an issues. And my media works.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
Your issue should be resolved with factory reset, then flash back to .30, root, install ota root keeper, then upgrade to JB then use ota root keeper to keep root. Once you are on JB, go to settings and switch your default key board to Android US keyboard. Yours will run like a dream.

If you don't want root, factory reset 3 times and reflash full stock JB, then do the keyboard thing. You could try out the keyboard thing right now to see if it resolved your issue.
[Asus Transformer TF700] allan1313:
Ok my Infinity is running faster since the JB update but I am wondering if it can run faster. I get a lag when I try using Google search. Also some of my screen transitions are a little jumpy sometimes.

I am wondering if a factory reset will "cure" these problems. Quick question, If I already have root does that go away with a factory reset or can I save the rood on my external SD card? Kind of reluctant to wipe it and have to set everything up again.
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
i cant see myself going thru all those steps just to get a stable tablet. I had two reboots in the past two hours. Also, i use thumb keyboard, why would i switch to android us keyboard?

I think im done with this device. I will just bite the bullet. Maybe i will send it to asus and pick up something else in the meantime. I have a huge decision to make.

I do appreciate the advice, but why would changing the keyboard settings help?
[Asus Transformer TF700] pierrekid:
Honestly, that's sounds exactly the same as the performance that im getting. The random jumpiness and "lag" when dealing with Google now is VERY minor and trivial. I think alot of us are wearing ipad goggles thinking that this tab is severely underperforming from the experience you get on apple and other similar products. Comparing my overall experience in terms of smoothness and transition, the infinity is exactly the same on jb if not better then the smoothness you will get with other tabs.

I understand some people have legitimate claims to significant lag or stutter on their tf700 due to hardware issues, software issues, ota problems etc....but this post is not for you guys. This is for those people who are nit picking at the VERY fine details of the new jelly bean. This tablet, after a clean install of jb, absolutely flies. If an occasional, and i really stress ocasional, 1/2 millisecond stutter has you so distraught that you are considering this jb update fail, i strongly advise you to reevaluate your standard in tablet performance.

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
[Asus Transformer TF700] TeCKNeiC:
EXACTLY what I am thinking. I swear some people are pushing their Infinity's to the max (i.e. downloading updates, torrents and trying to watch a video all at the same time) then get mad when the tablet stutters a little bit. Coming from the Prime when it was first released to this Infinity with JB on it after a factory reset is a friggin dream! My biggest problem was the out of memory errors that I first got on the Prime all the way to the Infinity with ICS. Those problems are gone! I can finally watch endless WorldStar Hip Hop videos (flash), fullscreen on my Infinity without the browser locking up on me and having to close the browser and reopen. I haven't even disabled the bloatware and I'm still extremely happy with it's performance now. Guess it's only going to get better after i do that...
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
Because there's a bug with Asus keyboard and JB. I suggest you should do it one more time before you return it.

1. factory reset (3 times)

2. downgrade to 3.0

3. factory reset

4. upgrade to JB

5. Go to settings and change Asus default keyboard to Android keyboard.

Let me know if it's better.

*** Don't give up, if you look at all the new tabs coming the specs are no where near this thing, from screen resolution, to front and rear camera and the keyboard etc.. That's is the reason I'm holding on to it. I'm pretty sure that some new custom roms will make this thing flies in a very near future.
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
i will give it a try. i switched to Android keyboard for now. if i get another reset, i will follow our suggestions. Yes, thats what im concerned about, nothing coming out has the specs of the infinity or better. Thanks
[Asus Transformer TF700] okantomi:
I know timrock from the Xoom forum and he's experienced and I trust that he's really having serious issues.

I take it that you are not unlocked and maybe don't choose to do so...if that's the case, it's a pity because all these issues could be resolved with a custom ROM like CleanROM.
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
If the issues continue, then I will unlock and root.

Question: if I choose the android US keyboard, how will I be able to use thumb keyboard when I'm not using the dock?
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
If you decided to unlock and use custom rom, wait for the release of full version of cleanrom. The current version removed a lot of apps and may not suitable for you. In the cleanrom forum, many ppl are trying to get some of the stock apps back.

For Thumb keyboard, just go into settings and make thumb as your default keyboard.(take less than 3 sec to do so).
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
Why is this happening?
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
What are you asking? what happening? keyboard?
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
yes, why is my lock screen being shown, with my home screen in the back. this never happened before

I had to edit the picture, so you probably didnt see it the first time.

Also, where can i find the tools to unlock and root. I guess i can do that now, and just wait for he new rom to come out. I already installed GooManager.

edit: i found the unlock tool, but it says its only for ICS. Do i have to roll back to ICS? Sorry for all the questions. I havent rooted a device since my Droid X.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tuncayt:
are u using apex launcher ? İ
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
no. Nova
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
Unlock tool should work with JB also.
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
i installed it and ran it, the device restarted. but how can i be sure its unlocked. no message popped up.