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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] crzycrkr:
And sometimes people get lucky. Usually the people that think like that come on here and start threads about how the glass on their new phone scratched so much easier than their old one and there must be something wrong with it. Sooner or later the odds catch up with even the most careful. A piece of grit gets attached to the microfiber, or in the bag, or in the pocket that only the phone goes in. I've been on these, and other boards, long enough to know this is simple fact. Go without a screen protector long enough and you will scratch your screen.

High quality protectors are very affordable at this point and have amazing feel and clarity. No reason not to use one
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] *Madmoose*:
Glass replacement screen $8.99 ($5.99 for white). Takes 5 mins. Better than buying an endless supply of screen protectors that attract greasy fingerprints and scratches like no other. Just my opinion.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Mashed_Potatoes:
I'm pretty confident about myself. I've took the Wave 3 to the beach numerous times, and yes, it had sand on it. (I like to listen to music on the beach).

If i get a scratch, i'll deal with it. I change phones every year or so anyways.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] john.r.raynor:
I couldnt disagree more with OP. These high end devices all scratch easily I find. As do the screen protectors but then you can change the protectors regularly and have that perfectly smooth screen.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Rakcoon:
It only takes one. One scratch to make you regret not having a sp.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] colint3:
not s-pen sensor

It is NOT talking about the S-Pen sensor it is talking about the sensor by the camera.

I have a Glass screen protector on mine and the S-Pen works great.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Optimistic Pessimist:
To not use a screen protector, whether it be PET film or Tempered glass, is similar to not wearing eye protection whilst using power tools.

Sure, most of the time you can get away without eye protection and not have wood/metal particles fly into your eyes and blind you, but the moment you get metal dust/filings into your eyes causing irreparable eye damage and possibly blindness, you have wished you wore eye protection.

So why risk it? If you don't like the feel of PET films (glossy or anti-glare) then go for the tempered glass. Can't see your self paying that much for tempered glass, then get PET films. (Note: ebay has some tempered glass protectors that are comparably cheap)

Remember Gorilla Glass is only 'scratch resistant' not scratch proof; just because a boat can float on water, doesn't mean it can not sink or capsize.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cntrybywlkr:
I know I am looking at putting an Iloome Screenmate Fex on my Note 2. This is a flexible glass screen protector. I was going to put a Zagg invisibleSHIELD HD, but found from reviews on YouTube the S Pen does leave indentions and the protector is noticeable when using the S Pen.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mamaboo:
to protect the screen or not....

here is my 2 cents --, since day one I have always used a high quality sp (screen protector), and ALL my devices have not so much as a spec of damage. I do like the way they all work/look/feel without the protector, but I do not like having to replace a whole screen or even have to deal with a permanently damaged display if I have an accident.

I use otterbox defender cases that plug all the ports (to avoid water damage) as well and always securely clip devices to myself or a stand keep it from falling or to keep from losing it.

the biggest reason I use an sp is this: because you will be less likely to have a shattered screen with an sp in place in the event of a drop onto concrete or stone like surfaces. I especially like the kind similar to the 'zagg' brand for this reason.

I have never had any functionality problems from using an sp, and we are talking 3-4 years of use on Samsung captivate, note 1, note 2, tab 7", tab 10.1 and an ipod touch. better safe than sorry!

my favorite sp are the ones that minimize fingerprints and glare, the notes' s-pens smoothly glide on those surfaces, and drag on the zagg kind. I have devised a way to apply the zagg brand so it is smooth and perfect, thus minimizing the drag...(lol...drag of the zagg?!)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Daciple:
I've used protectors from Verizon & the HD from Invisible shield.both great & don't affect spen function at all!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cntrybywlkr:
I too use the Otterbox Defender case which has been on my Note 2 since activation. The only bad thing is after a couple months the rubber exterior has become so stretched out (this is with the case never being remove since it was first installed) that it no longer stays attached to the hard interior case. This isn't the first time I had issues with the Defender case. I have had the same issue on my SGS3 and Atrix 4g. I have contacted Otterbox but the keep replying that my pictures do not cover the info they need. So I have decided to move away from Otterbox altogether and apply an Iloome Screenmate Flex and a Samsung gel case. I have always used case and screen protectors and on the day that I sale or get rid of my old devices they looked like they just came out of the box.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] senozlu1:
If you are in a office environments you may not need screen protectors but I own auto repair shop no screen protectors than I'll have scuffing where i swype my finger thats why I use them on my new device day one.....
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] SAJdroid:
For all the people still wondering , this my my real experience . I had a tempered glass screen protecter ( arn 9 $ cheap one ) . I dropped my phone accidentally , the screen protector shattered ( i was using a cheap one so it shattered) , but my screen of note II was safe !

Moral of the "experience" - Screen protectors/ Guards are not just used to scratch protection but its more useful if you have reduce the impact of fall on the screen . Note II is a big phone and I am sure many of you would have/ or might drop it.

Regarding sensors / spen - based on experience for last 8 months it had no effect what so ever !!!!

Suggested Screen Guards ( premium ) - Iloom( personal favorite) , spigen , Techpro , Nitro , Siedo
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mamaboo:
amen to that

the otterbox does that to me, too, so I did find ones that are similar in a different brand but cheaper so if they break then it is no big loss. I find the ones with the soft case on the inside --not the one where the soft rubber is on the outside, are the better choice. otterbox makes both, but even the otterbox on my ipod broke and I never take that out of my bedroom---or my bed for that matter. I use it to watch tv at night only and it looks like the case has been through world war three, but the ipod looks great...

I am on a quest for the absolutely best accessories for my note 2 (and on a quest for a note 3 as well). the best place for this info seems to be my beloved xda forums...!!!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] LaiFany:
Having a screen protector is instrumental IMO. At least that's what I thought after witnessing my friend scratching her own screen with her finger nails. :p
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ashouhdy:
I use them cause atleast i feel safe and use the phone with much more freedom
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ArvinBoggs:
I'm using a screen protector and have to problems with the sensors.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cooolforce:
The thread title has my agreement. There is no need for a screen protector with Note 2. I have been using it from the last 2 years and I haven't got even a single scratch,not even the small ones. I cannot say anything about other phones but screen protector for note 2 is a no go and waste of money.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] madmuthertrucker:
I like the feel of the stock screen.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Braneless:
Tempered glass screen protectors look, work, and feel just like the oem screen - with the added benefit of sacrificing itself when the phone is dropped or scratched.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] madmuthertrucker:
Well maybe I'll try 1. The plastic ones, zagg & ghost armor, have peeled on me. Nothing beats the feel of glass.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Athos008:
Despite the Gorilla Glass, I have 2 little scratches. But I I don't regret not use a screen protector, hate it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] weblist:
Last week i drop my phone very hard on floor.. luckily i put tempered glass screen protector.. my screen protectpr was shattered.. and my screen is safe! :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sonusman:
Very happy with the cheapo $6 shatterproof tempered glass protector! Smudge resistant, VERY responsive (actually, my finger slides across the screen better with it on!) and idiot proof to install. Glad I bought it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] zzzhead:
Interesting. Maybe ill try the tempered glass
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] hafridi:
A small piece of advice - DO NOT BUY SCREEN PROTECTORS FROM EBAY

lol sorry had to be capitalized. I have 5 screen protectors that look ugly and make my phone feel like it has pixel discoloration.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Braneless:
Uh, no...you should say "do not buy cheap crap from eBay". I ordered a Seidio Vitreo tempered glass protector and it is absolutely fantastic. Looks and feels even better than the oem screen.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] hafridi:
Lol true,

Link please :) I need to get one for myself... I have no screen protector on my thing and i want it to be safer :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Minglesny:
Same here, a link would be appreciated it :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] downloadkct:
Im buying 1 from Diamond just because my screen is gliched already, and the screen protector covers a bit :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Odeira.Oloap:
I used to NOT use a screen protector on my Note.

(Backstory - I used to buy dirt cheap, like 2USD cheap screen protectors on my Note. First, it didn't last me 15 days. Then I got the screen protector that came with a Capdase case; a good 2 months or so before scratches. Then I went completely screen protector-less for 2-3 months, not sure exactly how long. By the time I put on a screen protector I still have now by November '13, there were small scratches on my Note's screen - I'd like to chalk it up to the friction of the S Pen; I use it ALL the time. Or maybe with my pants?)

Now I have a thick screen protector. It's supposedly a 'privacy film' that kills the side visibility of the Note, like much of the current Sony flagships, LOL, it does what it says on the tin, though I don't like the matte texture and how it feels weird transcribing something in handwriting on it.

Take it from me. DO NOT USE MATTE SCREEN PROTECTORS. It is just plain weird to write over such surface with my S Pen. And it makes the actual writing less legible (and possibly less accurate.) :good:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] big0ak:
I've used invisable shield on my Note 2 for the year I've had it and have had no issues from it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vballrkc:
yeah i hear ya. I mean, if I wanted to store my phone in the box in came in all day while I wasn't using it it would stay mint too. The screens don't scratch from people using them, it's while they're not being used that the scratching happens.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] bebiisgod:
I used XOskins screen protector for a while. I didnt like the red hue on the edges of the top and bottom of the phone but I liked the feel of it. I removed it and I cant be happier. Never had an issue with sensitivity either. I missed the glass feel of new phones tho.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] james.r.macy:
Zagg Invisishield privacy protector here

I work with silica sand and let me tell ya without my protector my phone would be jacked
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Jefferyh2002:
Use a real glass screen protector. Thats the ticket. Try it you'll like it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sonusman:
Yup! I had one of those flimsy membrane types before and had troubles installing it, and didn't like the feel of it on the screen. Got a tempered glass one, a cheapy off of ebay for $6 (which included the shipping!) and could not be happier with it!!!

It was easy to install, looks great, resists smudges, and have dropped the phone a couple of time with NO problems to the screen. I often have the phone in my coat pocket with my keys. Not a single scratch.

Best $6 I have spent on a screen protector! I paid $20 for the Invisible Shield when I bought the phone. I will never buy a product like that again.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] geekcop:
Been using Zagg for as long as I can recall. A little pricey, sure, but I spend a good chunk of my work week in the high desert of Los Angeles County where wind and sand are a constant. Zagg has worked like a charm. No problems installing and I don't notice it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] marty141:
+1
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kuromusha38:
true, no need for screen protector. Pointless and make the experience less enjoyable.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] skyred5:
Didnt really read through all 44 pages of the thread. When it comes to screen protector on phones, for me personally it goes down to the changing of phones once every few years. You sell the phone in perfect condition, get a good price and get a new phone. And one minor scratch on ANYWHERE, like really anywhere on the phone and the value drops.Even for my casing I make sure that all sides of the phone are covered.

Having a screen protector will probably protect the screen, as well as the value of the phone.

But it doesn't matter if you intend to use a phone for 10years. go ahead and use it without a screen protector.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vantt1:
Well, it's about time to promote my own thread again.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] scoobz0202:
Personal preference obviously. I don't really see the use for them but I can definitely see the use. If it makes you feel better then whats the harm.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] hungimahar:
I think the OEM Samsung made screen protector with frame is the best one for the note 2. Especially from a value point of view and it also covers the chamfered edges which is rare for a screen protector.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] toughmenot:
I ve been using sgs2 and note 2 for about past 3yrs, both with screen protectors and did not notice anything wronh or any sensor related malfunction in both cases. It may not be needed in gorilla displays but gorilla too geta scratched for sure. Once the gorilla is scratched, you need to live the rest with the scratch and there is no way out. Use a screen protector and it gets scratched more frequently but you can change it whenever needed. So I go with the screen guards.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vantt1:
The oleophobic coating on your phone's touchscreen can wear off after 6-12 months to the point that you notice that it's not repelling fingerprints like it used to. If you use a screen protector, you can prevent this from happening, but then you won't be able to enjoy the luxury of an oleophobic screen.

Decisions...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] jrbxx7:
Tempered glass protectors with the coating...u won't even notice it's there

TaPpEd from my HyPeR NIII
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] zaubertuba:
To Each His Own...

If using a screen protector gives you peace of mind, I don't see the trouble with using one. I *do* have some very fine scratches on my Note 2, but they're not noticable when the screen is on. Still, as rugged as Gorilla glass is, it's not the "end-all be-all." ;)

For myself, I've had three screen protectors--A Zagg, a stock UAG protector, and an off-brand aftermarket "cut to fit" protector.

I never liked the look or feel of any of them, particularly the expensive Zagg. And for me they *did* seem to mess with sensitivity of my stylus.

I finally ditched them all and am going "au naturale," as it were. I use my stylus a lot and I much prefer both the look and feel. The glass is also easier to clean than any of the protectors. Any good cover with a bezel is already decent insurance, and a full coverage wallet or sleeve is even better.

But I've noticed the screen *can* be scratched, so I'm not going to try and talk anyone out of a protector if they can be happy with the look/feel of it.

Just weigh what will make you the happiest with your device, and go with it. No need to discount somebody else's experience or preference with their own device/situation. :cool:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] jaiswal_nishkarsh:
I have always used screen protectors. I remember using it on my SGS for a year and when it was removed, the screen looked like that of a brand new phone. One year without it and the screen has many fine scratches. Now Samsung says Gorilla Glass 2 is quite tough and it won’t scratch but they said same thing about its first iteration so there was no way I was going to trust them with my Note-2. Moreover I do not believe that these protectors dull the screen, it looked quite clear while applying and after one year I have never had a real issue with Spen. Although I am not a big fan of the matt finishing ones as they do take away screen sharpness and have bloom effect.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] SaDiCuL:
The gorilla glass is not invincible.l!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] don2012:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2743212
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] barry99705:
Found out my phone in it's holster will rub against the pocket clip on my knife while mowing the yard...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] glennlevi:
My phone came with a screen protector already on it when bought (and its not 2nd hand).
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] monkor:
Why on earth wouldn't you use a screen protector?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] erica_renee:
You live in a super protected environment. or you have more money then brains and do not care. The s-pen must have a smooth surface . Just my thoughts..

screen protector from day one. I use the cheaper ones for both my note 2 and note 10.1 the gel like ones do not work well with s-pen

Oh or because its your Device and Not everyone wants or needs one.. Some people are super protective of there Phone.. Thats just not me.. Its not like its a cute pair of heels that MUST BE PROTECTED .. Sheesh..
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] gub:
- You don't mind a few almost invisible scratches

- Screen protectors may be cheap but they are not free, plus installing them correctly takes time

- Screen protectors are not completely invisible

- Tactile feeling

- Touch screen sensitivity

- Screen protectors are less scratch-resistant than your screen

- You have a screen cover, which lessens the need for a screen protector

I understand why some people want to use screen protectors but it's all about compromises :

- You can have a cheap plastic screen protector but it will degrade your image quality more than even a badly scratched screen. Maybe good for resale value but poor experience.

- You can stick a high quality tempered glass screen protector using LOCA : almost as good experience as with an unprotected screen but it is a quite involved operation and the price is not negligible. As some point you will wonder if keeping your screen scratch-free is really worth it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] barry99705:
Got it mostly buffed out! Rouge wheel with my dremel on sloooow, then a follow up with brasso on a clean wheel on a little faster. Still alot of fine scratches, but I don't have any white rouge for my dremel. Really can't see them when the screen is on, and will probably totally disappear with a screen protector over top of them.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] fmarkos:
I don't have any problems with the screen protector on.

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] barry99705:
Unless the screen protector is made of aluminum, it's not going to affect the digitizer or touch sensitivity at all.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] erica_renee:
I love to Not LOVE your Signature .

Does that scratch mess with the S-PEN.

And my take on screen protector. I use the matte Finish anti glare Cheaper protectors on both my note phone and note 10.1 tablet . the surface is not super slick and makes the contact of the pen have a more real paper like feel.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] barry99705:
No. The part that makes the s-pen work is behind the screen. Doesn't affect touch either, though I'm sure I've buffed the coatings off. I'll have to look up that screen protector. Best Buy, att, and sprint stores don't have any note 2 screen protectors in the stores anymore.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] erica_renee:
oops

OOPS ..

I think you misunderstood what i was asking . I was wondering if without a screen protector using the s-pen across that place where the scratch was DOES It make the pen not write correctly. I had this issue with a scratch on screen protector once.. But it sounds like you got it Quite smooth by your above answer..

I know the coating on the screen is just for protection from scratches and glare on some devices .
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] barry99705:
No, the original "scratch" couldn't really be felt either. It was really just a bunch of micro scratches with the steel from one of the pocket clip screws rubbed into them. I could see where a deep scratch could catch on the pen though. That would be a bummer and probably not be polishable.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] barry99705:
Ended up getting a skinomi tempered glass screen protector. Holy crap these things are nice! It also completely hides the micro scratches. :victory:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] TheRegime:
I ended up scratching a little mark in my phone when i first got it. No clue how I did it with the gorilla glass. its deeper but not noticable with daily use. i dont use a screen protector but I do use a flip cover so the screen is protected when Im not using it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Crommy:
well gorilla glass is easily breakable once i dropped my phone from a table and it make the whole glass broken , and the second time with anther phone i placed a one liter glass bottle it scratched the protector and cut it but the screen was fine , so my advice use a screen protector, thos flip covers open in air while the phone is falling it exposes the screen to the floor
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Imranhakro:
I've been using "The ultimate shock proof screen protector" http://bufflabs.com/ since 1.5 years and this is the second protector that I am using in a row on my Note II. It works flawlessly, no sensor malfunctions, and NO PROBLEM AT ALL. I have a peace of mind that my Note II is very well protected, and i witnessed this fact when i peeled off the 1st protector and applied the 2nd. i literally stabbed the pen into it (peeled off sheet) and then knife and keys, but couldn't cross through. On the contrary my buddy's note II has slight scratches on the screen because he never used screen protection.

My advice is that you keep using your phone (your way) without screen protector, but you'll get to know it someday down the road that majority here who use screen protectors were not idiots.

You 'll get the answer of your curious question "I am not sure why people still use screen protectors on today's high end devices..."
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apprentice:
Firstly I do not believe people are idiots for using a screen protector, get that fact straight!

Secondly, I have owned countless touchscreen devices for MANY years and not had the problems you face. I believe it's because I use a case for my phones and always have. I also take good care of them. I quoted the instruction manual because at the time I believed it was worth mentioning as after all it was sanctioned by the manufacturer. I don't have the Note II any longer but when I sold it, it was pristine.

My gripe with MOST screen protectors, is that they make the phone look uglier than a phone does with very fine scratches. I have seen some horribly placed protectors with air bubbles and peeling, so unless you have a good protector and applied carefully and skilfully, I really believe I am better doing without.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Paul013:
Same happened with me. Cost me 6500 INR to get the display replaced..:(