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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
I owned a skyrocket before this phone and I actually didn't mind touchwiz tbh...

To the comment about "why don't you develop a rom" I find that kind of a cop out.

Not everyone has learned to write code. I spent 8 years in uni and work 60 hours a week as an electrical engineer.

That is the equivalent of me saying "why don't you do that?"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] InfDaMarvel:
How about a new OS, such as webOS? That's in the works. Sense and touchwiz launchers have been ported I believe.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
I'm actually stoked for that...

Some dual boot action would be killer
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lrs421:
Not a cop out at all. I'm a big believer in DIY. I like to know how things work, a position I've evolved to. As I said, wasn't trying to be a **** but if you want it why not build it or learn how.

To your point, it could be quite popular if no one else is doing it.

By the way, electrical engineering is your job. If we pay you for that service you should provide it. Dev'ing is usually a hobby, see where I'm going with this...

I know you weren't trying to be offensive, neither was I.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Because these are AOSP supported devices, and its relatively easy to build an AOSP ROM compared to trying to port some closed source stuff from Samsung or HTC...

People buy the Nexus to get away from the other skins. I know its all about choice, but I don't see how you can be surprised that there aren't Sense and TouchWiz ROMs.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lrs421:
This.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ali magdy:
It will be nice if HTC or Samsung make their UIs open and easy to put on any device like google did with their stock UI. But they are too greedy to do it.

Sent from a neXus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Its not that they're greedy as much as they want to be reimbursed for their investment in their UI. Why would they bother making all of their own customizations if they were open sourced to the other companies they're competing against?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Why would you get a nexus to have sense, touchwiz or blur in the first place? I thought people wanted a nexus for freedom but then you turn around and people are whining to be put back in the cage. That is what iOS and WPx are for.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] withbloodskies:
Sense to me is free, I've had sense and it was great. Slow because of the device but nonetheless was amazing. Touchwiz is actually really neat too. I bought a nexus because its a pinnacle of modern smart devices as of now. Cheap, great specs and its big, comes with aosp.

I didn't buy it for aosp or any variation of ROMs. I can say though what the **** is the point of having 100+ different ROMs if all of them are the same? I'm using PA but most ROMs I've looked at or tried is basically the same recycled stuff over and over. Rarely do they have any type of new features.

Yes variety would be great. If I had a computer I would learn how to make ROMs and I would help the developers trying to port sense. I love sense.

Being stuck on aosp isn't bad, its the amount of the same damn ROMs over and over that technically piss me off. I understand there is themed/customized/slim/stocky ROMs but its easy to include multiple of those. JbSourcery and CNA do a great job of this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] snarf.snarf:
On other phones with skins there are many aosp roms because of the relative unbloatedness. We already have that stock.

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Sent from my Sprint Nexus 3
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
There are already people trying to port touchwiz, sense and blur, the Vicious team I believe. Progress is slow, but Sense is the furthest along.

The reason why we have I suppose less variety than skinned phones is because those phones come with the respective skins preconfigured to the hardware it's running on. Ours did not, so that means in order for us to have said skins developers pretty much have to write/port drivers for the hardware in our devices that don't match up to HTC etc. devices they are grabbing the rom from. This is very slow business, and lots don't bother since phone turnover rates are ridiculous.

This sounds like a bad thing, but on the plus side AOSP was designed for our exact hardware, so it runs better and is more compatible with stock google releases. For those of us who just flash AOSP on to our respective phones anyway it makes the Nexus line a better choice. If you prefer a specific skin, it's best to just buy a phone that comes with it, and go from there.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] unlvmike:
And this is the beauty of android, they come in all shapes, sizes, and flavors. You want something else then I am sorry to have to be the first person to tell you, but you bought the wrong phone.

Sarcasm
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
at least someone gets what I was trying to say..

people are pretty defensive round these parts eh lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
..so..that was it? You think there's too many roms out there? Yeah, you're right, there's alot, with very little variation between most. But so what? Filter through the crap and find one you like, which it sounds like you already did.

You want Touchwiz or Sense or ____? Well we already explained why it's not here right now. There are people working on it, if you think it's taking too long, well, maybe you should help them, or help us by not *****ing about it.

Sorry, I'm just trying to figure out what the point of this thread was, besides complaining about stupid crap.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
Just a statement that it is ironic that devices I had with less development had more variety.

No one put a gun to your head forcing you to read the thread.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jmcdonald58:
I think I understand your point, for me I ran sense for the longest I loved the options it afforded me I was able to run aosp,cm,aokp,tw thanks to the development there lies my issues while owning a HTC device I found myself running aosp/cm/aokp more an more and getting tired of waiting for HTC to release the source/kernel codes it's also bugs me that they release new devices while not sending out upgrades to a device less than 1 year old so seeing how I was running non sense most of the time I bailed now I am updated with the latest from Google running Shank Rasbean/aokp and Pa works great for me I see HTC

will finally be pushing an update this month for the one series so I will be able to update my girls phone for me I found my device finally it's the nexus and that's all I will buy contract free and unlocked from Google some say the next one could be HTC
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ali magdy:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1566304 this is Xperia S rom ;) . I wish one day we get a working sense 4.x rom.

Sent from a neXus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pierceye:
My guess for the point of this thread would be two-fold. 1) Education. The OP seems to be genuinely curious about why there aren't skinned ROMs, so he's asking a question in a forum of knowledgeable people. I was curious myself as to why there aren't any of the skinned ROMs available. I learned why by reading this thread. I also learned that there is a team of devs working on several different skins. 2) Discussion. A question or answer here might inspire a dev to look at something in a different way, giving them an idea. So, my question is, why go on the offensive with the OP? This thread is more than a month old. If the mods thought it was inappropriately posted or without purpose, I'm sure it would have been closed by now. By attacking the OP, they and others who are less educated about Android are less inclined to ask questions. That in turn increases the likelihood of "OMG I BRIKED MY PHONE!!! HALP PLEASE!" being posted in the development section. Could the OP have phrased their first post so it sounded less critical? Sure. Would Q&A have been a better place? Probably. Does that justify implying they are stupid for asking a valid question? NO! If you've got a genuine problem with a thread, report it to the mods and move on. Acting offensively toward someone who is trying to learn does nothing but denigrate community as a whole.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
there is no irony. its a matter of porting something that is super proprietary to a phone it was not meant to run on.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jmcdonald58:
I couldn't agree more with your statement I have been around a couple of years and its amazes me the attitude some bring with their comments including some developers everyone has to start somewhere and not everyone knows it all it should be a fun learning experience for all though it seems that some of those with the best knowledge seem worst at conveying that in their posts and unfortunately it creates a pile on effect to the one who ask, it's a small% but it brings down the overall perception best policy is to read up before asking or you are liable to get blasted by the gang´s enforcers aka team members
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] beekay201:
you didnt buy it for aosp. most of us did. you're bored? (points to android source) build/customize/modify your own. it's rather ironic to see someone critize others while he has done nothing.

sent from my i9250
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] withbloodskies:
Yet here you are bashing an xda member. One of the reasons xda is getting horrible. I don't bash the developers for their work. I don't bash them at all, I just don't want to see the same recycled garbage plastered over in the development thread. The same can be said in the droid incredible dev thread. Although there wasn't much recycled stuff it was there. Besides like others have said, don't like it? Report it and move on. Showing your response just shows your immaturity.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
You act shocked that a Nexus phone has mostly pure AOSP ROMs, just like a HTC phone has mostly Sense ROMs.

This is the way it's always been.

It's ridiculously hard to port something other to a non expected device, not enough have interest for it, on the flip side, it's easier usually to port AOSP to a non Nexus phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] withbloodskies:
Why would I be shocked? I did a lot of research on the nexus before I bought at least a months worth. I knew it was aosp heavy but I expected at least some variations or something. As for sense having mostly sense ROMs you couldn't be more wrong. In the gingerbread time sure, we had sense 2.1/3.0/3.5. These were huge! But then the aosp started flying off the walls, Senseless Roms " of pure aosp, a very slim version of sense and also" Cm7, official Aosp ROMs based on gingerbread too "kush" then we had the ICS launch almost a year down the road then we got the jelly bean leaks? Either way..

You would expect devs to try besides the current team who disbanded Sense for obvious reasons. Now I guess working on sense 3.6 from my understanding. Determination can come along way, it could be something used for years to come. I kinda feel like this community is just based on aosp hardnaughts who will die before the nexus touches your version of "bloatware" or sorts. Very displeasing and highly dislike, at least in the incredible forum people worked together instead of picking one another off to die. Probably should just go to Rootz and see how that community fairs, its gotta be better than this nexus community? I may have not had my nexus for the longest of time, I was excited to join this community and it was amazing at first but now everyone is showing their true colors and trying to get rid of people like myself.

I'm not saying sense and touchwiz isn't hard to port, cause it is. I'm grateful for some devs trying and hope we do get something.

Honestly.. I'm just saying I don't care for the millions of ROMs in our development thread. Its cluttered and most ROMs are useless, let the ones with the best ROMs stay and develop and maybe add to the team for help and unique extras.

Its whatever obviously I won't get my point across the hardnaughts but that's okay.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Most people fail to see, the rookie devs, the amateurs, the guys with too much time on their hands, the guys with too little time but addicted and the pros are trying to create their own sense or touchwiz. Or the next cyanogen or aokp. Based on aosp. Yes it gets repetitious, maybe boring but that is what aosp, better yet, Open Source is about. Something might get cherry picked from some rookie's port because that person had a great idea or got the ball rolling for the next update of android. Somebody needs to develop OSos. Open source operating systems ftw!

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
And I would have agreed with you if he had chimed in anything to that effect or that he had learned something, or thanks or anything besides just fueling the hate posts.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tone_Capone:
Isn't this why the theme engine is so awesome? Or have we lost sight of how many features ALL of these different roms (Sense, Touchwiz, Blur, AOSP) have in common. Jeez, sounds like someone wants something that just flat out doesn't exist...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
I would sat it's you who hasn't learned anything...

everyone took things way too far.

I'm actually shocked by some people attitudes on here
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] abrarabbu:
I really don't know what's going on in nexus community. Here people just want to add one or two of their features to Alsop or cm and make a ROM for themselves and name in such a way that they have done a great job.

Its nexus a Google pgo e and it must be capable of doing a lot compared to others

Sense is ported fully on galaxy s3. How was it possible? ??

And now that many devices with on screen buttons are available, someone can try to port them.

Example moto new ui from RAZR and xperia nxt ui from XPERIA T.

Xperia ui will look awesome on our device once it is ported.

Please make two sections like wise in some other devices forums.

One should be original android development and other should be just Dev for this copying stuff.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eksasol:
We buy a Nexus so we don't have to use Sense and Touchwiz and Motoblur. I thought there is some Sense port for the Nexus? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1535715

Unfortunately, Sense isn't open source, if it was, tons of phones would be running it already. I have no problem with it, I would like to see Sense and Touchwiz and Motoblur roms made for the Nexus. I think this problem would been solved if the companies released launcher in the Market and just charge money for it, but Sense is extremely integrated into the system.

For now, make do with this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.BlackDub.theme.Sense4 (or buy an HTC phone if you want to use Sense®).

I'm just going to go ahead and say that base on my previous experience with Sense, although I don't have WireShark installed on a running Android phone to prove it, there seems to be way too much data mining and user info being uploaded with Sense usage. The way they hid CIQ in their phones in the past also left a bad taste for me (other manufacturers also did, but HTC went a step further).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jameslepable:
This forum has gone to the dogs. I'm so glad my first phone was a crazy cheap Android phone. Even if it wasn't the best everyone helped each other out to understand and learn fundamentals. Some guy buys his first nexus device and just finds the irony in the Google flagship Dev device does have as much variety in choice for roms as other phones. In a way trying to spur would be devs to think about different. Then the trolls come a long and rip into a guy for just asking questions. He isn't criticising any 1 person he is asking for reasons why only aosp roms.

I got the nexus for stability and variety. Not just for aosp (although stock on a whole is greater).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jpisini:
I didn't mind sense on my EVO there were dozens of good Roms with it. I even miss a few features. I bought a Nexus though because I wanted to have the latest OS and now I do. I have been having so much fun with my Nexus I haven't even rooted it yet. That is a record for me normally that would have happened already. I say enjoy the Nexus for what it is a great Android phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sdobron:
OP: People buy Nexus for AOSP. If you don't want AOSP don't get a Nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
I'm glad you can tell everyone why they bought a nexus...

What else can you tell us all about ourselves?

I also never said I didn't like aosp, I'm using PA and I love it. I also like variety, apparently that is a huge issue with a lot of people on these forums
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lrs421:
In fairness, the question has been answered by several people in this thread.

1) Closed source = not easy

2) It's being worked on, slowly because of reason number 1.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
I know I get that and did from the start, I was just surprised considering I had other phones that managed to have ports and these had muchhhh less development.

Anyhow I think this thread has gotten to the point of beating a dead horse ten feet into the ground.

I don't think the attitude given from many was necessary however.

"You don't feel how I do about "opinion A" so you're an idiot" etc.....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lrs421:
Granted, just as a suggestion you may have gotten more balanced responses asking this in the xda general section. Asking in the GN forums among avid aosp fans will get you these types of responses. Fair or not.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I think that is only somewhat the case. I am a HTC Sense fan but bought a GSM Nexus because I wanted updates, was sick of bloat, and wanted to be free of carrier BS. I think AOSP is pretty boring and plain, but like it as a base to add mods to.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xdiable:
On the other phones you've used are there cross company roms (Motoblur or Touchwiz for HTC or vice versa)? If your old phone was from HTC I bet all the non AOSP rams are various builds of Sense ported from other HTC phones. To be honest most dev's on other phones don't develop anything. They just combine bits and pieces from different stock roms to create new ones. Now the rom situation of the Galaxy Nexus is the same except the stock rom is AOSP so 99% of roms are going to be variations of that. Trying to port Sense, Touchwiz or Motoblur to the Galaxy Nexus would be a nightmare that no ones going to under take.

So other phones you've used don't have ports just kang's of the stock roms plus AOSP roms. If you want access to the OEM's skins plus AOSP you should probably get a different phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jordanishere:
Our devas are amazing, and our phone is supported by Google. What else do we expect?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dustrho:
Well said. I have been thinking the same thing for weeks now. I appreciate everything these devs do, but I would like a little more variety than just ROMs with different mods, tweaks and kernels.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
Hmm had a sense phone once. I am same thing with tons of the same tweaks and awful themes laid on top of sense.

This is a case of the grass is always greener
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimmyhook:
Probably because it's not easy to think outside the box and implement if you do think of something unique. Just being honest, the real answer is because AOSP is there to download, be tweaked, given a fancy name, and released. Instead of a complete overhaul to create something entirely different, it's just variations on a theme. Not being critical here, I can't do it. I do think Paranoid Android was the first really unique ROM I have seen.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xdiable:
Why did you get a Galaxy Nexus? Have you ever seen a Sense rom on a Samsung phone or Touchwiz on a Motorola? Im not trying to be a asshole but a look in the dev fourm would have maybe saved you from buy this phone. You can get the TW Launcher if you want a Samsung Touchwiz look and there's always MIUI but that's about it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xdiable:
This is going to make me sound like a asshole but you have no clue what your talking abut. The dev's on other phones are not "thing outside the box", there tweaking the stock roms, be it Sense or Touchwiz. The stock rom on a Nexus phone is AOSP so that's what the dev's are tweaking. On other phones the stock rom is Sense or Touchwiz so you get roms tweaking that and some AOSP/CM roms. What you don't see are dev's released Sense roms for Samsung phones or Touchwiz roms for HTC phones. To do that you would need acces to Samsung and HTC's source code which no one outside of those companies has. For some reason this seems really hard for some of you to understand.

If you want Sense roms and AOSP roms get a HTC phone, if you want Touchwiz roms and AOSP roms get a Samsung phone. Nexus phones will have AOSP based roms. Thinking in or outside of the box what change what I wrote above.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
actually I have seen sense roms on non HTC phones, etc..

ones with.much less development, hence the thread.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CMNein:
The other devices have debloat (+/- themed) ROM's and AOSP based ones IF you're lucky.

You do tend to see a lot of AOSP based ROMs here with a very similar feature set, but that's because if a feature is good, other ROMs borrow it, or develop their own take on it.

We lucky.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimmyhook:
You should probably read what I wrote before commenting, because you are coming off as an ahole. I want comparing devs on one device to devs on another, I was saying it's really hard to make a Rom in the first place, let alone something that looks and feels totally fresh and different. I don't care about sense, or HTC, I didn't even mention them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zeinzu:
The Epic 4G has Touchwiz, AOSP, and Sense ROMs. Sure as hell wasn't easy though, and took a really long time and a lot of developer dedication.

Sent from my AOSP Android 4.1.1 Galaxy Nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
As I said, for all the trouble it takes to port those closed source skins, most people just don't want it, therefore, no incentive for devs to waste time on it when they can perfect their AOSP ROMs which almost all of us want.

Do I agree having Sense, etc as options would be good for development? Of course.

Would I use it? Hell no, I wanted a Nexus for the AOSP ROM experience I hadn't had until I got the GNex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vangelis13:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1920946
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] josip-k:
Unfortunately,vangelis,that is not a touchwiz rom.its galaxy nexus rom with a touchwiz theme.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vangelis13:
Bummer..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
Then why don't you go learn how to port a non aosp rom to galaxy Nexus then?

Rom developers do this for free. Investing so much time into another framework is a difficult task to do especially when it is closed source.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
once again, I hate this kind of response..

many are developers by trade, or have been doing this their whole lives.

when people complain about battery life I don't say "run out and become an electrical engineer like me and then come up with a solution"
[Asus Transformer TF700] Arundroid:
EDIT 2: New update fixed the issue. :o

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EDIT: So I factory reset and the static sound is still there. Is it safe to assume that the headphones having no static means that my external speaker on infinity is somewhat damaged?

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Hi

After upgrading to jellybean I have noticed a loud static buzz that accompanies any audio I play through the infinity speakers. The buzz is always there regardless of volume levels. However there is no buzz using headphones.

In case I find no solution I will go about factory reset as a last resort. What is the best way to restore my infinity back to pre-reset condition? But my hope is that I can find something helpful to fix the sound issue.

Thanks.