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[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Geo2160:
Don't try and make excuses for Sony for using crappy displays in their flagships and "augmenting" them with dubious software tricks (bravia engine). To the guy who said that IPS is better than PenTile: The XT doesn't have an IPS panel, it's not even a good quality TFT panel.

The S2 doesn't have any ghosting nor burn-in issues. And the two aren't even related. Ghosting is just that, ghosting while displaying and animation. The burn-in is a whole different issue, referring to the "aging" of the blue LEDS in some areas of the screen where they have to display a static image most of the time (the status bar mainly). I didn't notice any of those in 1 year of owning a GS2. If anything, the ghosting is worse on the XT.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] --anx--:
The "guy" was me...and the ghosting that depends on display age its fake: with the galaxy nexus, ghosting appeared after 2 WEEKS OF USE...and it was pentile.

I don't know about LCD that's not with Pentile matrix...I'm talking about pentile displays...about other I just don't know all the real related problems.

And I'm not trying to defend Sony choices about displays...I'm just saying things in reply to other things...Sony don't pay me...they have for sure great lawyers on his side... :sly:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Wampcia:
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My XPT vs XPU booth have 100% brightness. Quality of this display looks like bad joke and it is not only problem of gamma calibration but very small of color view angle. I ll send this phone to service
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] doministry:
I don't know but my S and T were very similar to each other.

P.S. those angles are nonsense anyway.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Wampcia:
Mabye nonsens but in reall looks ugly, all menu themes looks like washed, white.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] mpiekp:
But theres something wrong, if you need to view it from that sort of angle....
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Beready:
Let's be honest just take your phone and just turn it a little up or down and you will see the change in color immidately that make me little upset about this phone but then again I not gonna die from it either I take the goods and the bads and balance it and I'm happy at the moment with this phone till the Z comes out and have to get in my hand to see how it handles in my hand and if I'm sold for sure I gonna sell this phone asap !!!

And hopefully I not have to buy any phone anymore for atleast a year see my CV with phones :lol

I had them all by now but I wanna stick with Sony bcz of the design and the cool factor, they are great phones imo and blink out on the smarthphone market :)

And they support the developpers what you want more !!!
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Wampcia:
It s joke or provocation ?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] mpiekp:
Neither, surely you use your phone in your hand in front of your face, not held a foot to the side. Straight on the colours are fine and the images sharp.

I don't get everyone's beef with the display.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] gregbradley:
Yes, I turned my phone through an angle of 180 degrees and the display was rubbish, I couldnt see a thing.

:angel:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] thejosetree:
A good viewing angles are not very useful, but they help to give a sense of premium quality.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] gregbradley:
Obviously i was being facetious in my last post but this one is gods honest truth.

I managed to view my Xperia T's screen absoultely perfectly at an angle of 360 degrees. There was no loss of colour, no loss of defintion. It was just like normal

When i have time tomorrow I will test at 720 degrees and report back
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Gasai Yuno:
gregbradley, I think this forum needs a “highfive” button instead of “thanks”. I find the lack of such button disturbing in light of your last post.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] gregbradley:
You can always hit the thanks button 5 times :highfive....
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] mpiekp:
I have tested 720 and find it less than satisfactory, particularly troublesome @180 and @540, but find doing so in a darkened room whilst standing on my head improves things greatly.

Why oh why can't all manufacturers be the same
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] gregbradley:
I have just retested 180 degress. Last time I rotated on its long axis and I couldnt see a thing, this time i rotated about a line parallel with the viewing angle.

Report

Coulours are fine, defintition is good. Sound just the same, but the picture appeared upside down.Will try various other axis to rotate the phone about tomorrow and report back
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Arcano:
360 degrees, 720 degrees... those are high numbers.

¿Are you people using Kelvin instead of Celsius?. 'Cause I can't try anything over 400 degrees, my oven won't reach any further.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Wampcia:
My colors changing even at an 15 degree angle - more "washed" :(

It is probably "3th quality" oem display.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] doministry:
Viewing angles discussion is a nonsense.

But in fact on my T nothing is washed even on extreme angles.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] ronhoover88:
Absolutely... Its an invalid argument as no one is going to see their device screen in any angle other than directly at the screen...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] doministry:
Maybe there is an angle which you use sometimes but it's just a little variation from the direct view.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] nedooo:
No burn in on SGS2?!?!

You don't deserve place in XDA!!!

This is a well known fact, what is your next statement: "Well you all should know milk is actually black, but only rare ones like me can see it"...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] sidneylopsides:
My mate's S3 is about 8 months old and has burn in from the keyboard, and now from his wallpaper he's had on four only a month or so. It's a blue planet sunrise picture. The arc of the planet is visible on a white background now.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] huntedsoul12:
Sorry for off topic but guys anyone having a problem with the blue flickering screen while opening keyboard in youtube :(

I have no idea whats this about, so decided to put it here.

Sorry for trouble.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Geo2160:
You know, I'm not blind. You don't need to use fonts that can be seen from the moon. And I suggest you google the term "burn-in". OLED screens do not burn in, they just wear out. Plasma screeens burn-in . And again, unlike you, I have actually owned a device with an AMOLED screen for over a year and haven't noticed any issues.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] maxboy:
Then I'm like you, actually owned a galaxy nexus and hated it because of amoled, so I passed it to my gf, she wasn't keen on tech stuff but she is also complaining ghost and burn effect.

Now she wants nexus 4.......
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Gambler_3:
Oh really? Never played a game with tilt controls? :rolleyes:

Never happened that more than one person is trying to look at photos/videos on a phone? :rolleyes:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] embrion:
I'm to lazy to check newest posts BUT I was today in store and they've had Ion and two Ts (black and white). I've compared displays by viewing one of preinstalled photos (red flover or sth.) and when looking at them straight, Ion and T were identical. Some rather subtle differences appeared when viewed under angles but nothing as huge as at original post.Funny thing is I could actually see some differences (even looking straight) between both Ts. White one had slightly more saturated colors but again nothing huge. Probably different batches of displays.

Everything tested at 100% brightness with Bravia Engine enabled.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Miustone:
One X with mBE2 (Locked BL) -> Xperia T mBE2 (Locked+Unlocked BL)

I can see a huge diffrence between the One X (from my mom) and my Xperia T:(

mobile Bravia Engine is only working with Locked Bootloaders right? But the Colors and The Contrast are on the One X a lot better then the Xperia T's (With Locked Bootloader and 100% working Bravia Engine)...

not Sure if mBE2 is working on the One X:confused:

all the same... the Xperia T has not such a good display as the HTC One X (direct comparison)

spelling errors caused by Google Translate:silly:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Gildart:
T does't have good display,,,TX had good display ,, right?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Miustone:
don't no :rolleyes: all i can say is the Xperia T is an amazing Smartphone... I had already a S3,Galaxy Note 1+2 Galaxy Nexus ect. All these devices are great, but the Xperia T in my opinion is at least as good:o Sony Ericsson was good, Sony has yet to achieve what Sony Ericsson had already reached.

Ps: i are probably spoiled Amoled :D The Xperia T Display is not colorful, but sharp, clear and bright

spelling errors caused by Google Translate:eek:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] lee480:
I don't understand why people like AMOLED. AMOLED screen colours are oversaturated and cannot even display basic colours like white properly.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Miustone:
I can understand you! but it is clear that one has the Amoled displays a false impression of true colors:rolleyes:

Amoled is not the best, but our Xperia T display probably no more
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] nemer12:
man..i had a HTC ONE X (sold it) and bought SX T.. but the SCreen is way more better than SXT dont know why..because what I've heard that the HTC ONE X Screen is also made by SXT
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Gildart:
see this,,right is xperia tx(white),,left is xperia t(black)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Miustone:
Hmm its really strange:( let us hope to improve the colors with working Bravia Engine 2

jeha your right! TX is really better ! embarrassing for the 2012 Sony's flagship...

Texted with Translate by Google:silly:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Arcano:
Totally agree. A fellow of mine has an S3, and colors are way wrong compared to my T. This screen is one of the best I've had.

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Enviado desde mi móvil.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] nemer12:
go an compare HTC one x screen vs xp t screen

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSDUMGV8Xvw

you can make an ideea on HTC ONE X vs SX T vs GS3 screens...put the video on 720 p..

and as I said..its wierd because HTC ONE X screen = made by sony.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Arcano:
I see more saturated colors, to a point where you cannot distinguish between ground and sky in some scenes, while the difference is clear in the Xperia T.

See this example taken from your video:

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7500/compde.jpg

But hey, everybody has personal tastes. If you like the HTC better go for it.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] nemer12:
I had htc one x...and the verge and others sites said that is the best display on market..

and also I had hTC ONE X = but it was a poor experience..so sold it and buyed Sony xperia T, also I had a xperia S but had the tint problem(yellow), I want sony because they are kinda unique in design very cool phones..
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Geo2160:
Actually, it's not. Most of the IPS LCD screens used in HTC devices (and Apple for that matter) are made by Sharp. Sony doesn't even make any IPS panels. Sony, understandably, use in-house designed and produced screens, similar to the ones used in their TVs, which are all regular TN panels with numerous tweaks and improvements. Unfortunately, TVs and phones have completely different needs when it comes to screens and TN panels have some pretty nasty limitations. I think they'd be better off using IPS panels from another OEM for the time being.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] 1337rice:
IPS is a TYPE of TFT LCD...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] nemer12:
" I did some poking around, and my HTC One X (AT&T) review unit has a Sony display:"

Grey one = HTC ONE X (with Sony panel)

White one = HTC ONE X International version ( also maybe made by SONY)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOimsQ5UTMc

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4LZqpHm0jg
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Geo2160:
You are right my good sir. I meant TN, not TFT. Gonna edit now.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] nemer12:
just pls go in whatsapp or facebook ..and pull the notification bar down ..leave it as for 5 second..then pull it up and pls tell me if ur display will show facebook/whatsapp(after u pull the notifiication up while in app) a very whitey image and after 1-2 seconds all the colors are OK
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] sidneylopsides:
You can see the Opticontrast in action when doing that.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] TimAhKin:
I just tried with whatsapp and nothing like that happened. I'm on 50% brightness with adapt.. enabled.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] nemer12:
the only ones with Opticontrast = xperia z and ZL.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] sidneylopsides:
Ok, whatever that power saving feature is they turned on in the display controller that makes everything look washed out for a few seconds.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] nemer12:
I dont think that power saving feature has something to do with this.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] doministry:
Yes it does exactly that, it happens to all white elements of the UI.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] nemer12:
ok, i understand but I dont have power saving on :( ...also installed a PARanoid software and same problem :| .
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] doministry:
It's not about any powersaving app. It's built in into the system.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Supersonic335:
xperia T vs xperia V display-very Disappointed how T'screen is wayyyy worse:confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVR-A_sMFk0
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Torres77an:
I think I'm gonna sell my Xt I haven't been so impressed with the screen lately either

Sent from my LT30a

using xda app-developers app
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Torres77an:


Though I find my screen to be some where in the middle of those 2 it certainly isn't as washed out as the Xperia T on the left but isn't as nice as the V on the right

I know that Sony suffers from inconsistency so I'm heading back to the Sony store first thing tomorrow morning to do some comparisons
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] peetr_:
This is useless thread.

Someone likes the screen on the right, but I still like the screen on the left. No matter what everyone says. ;)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Arcano:
You're not alone, I like the left one better too. I guess some people still think in 16 colors, and only want completely saturated hues. :)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] peetr_:
We can call it blue (for example), but one hundred eyes = one hundred tints of blue in the same pixel. :)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] leopard_vn:
My screen.I didn't notice anything unusual as you describe.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] cornbaby93:
I realized that the angle you took the pictures are directly on xperia ion.. It makes a difference..
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] imgrshpr:
there is definitely an issue with the T screens. i own a T, and the viewing angles are AWFUL!!! washed out at the slightest tilt. i used to own HTC DNA, that screen was such a beauty!!

it seems that there are several different screen types in the sony phones, JDC, Sharp, TDM, and Sony. mine is a TDM (toshiba). ive heard that the sony ones are much better :crying:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] herzzreh:
I actually love it... keeps people on the subway from minding my business.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Shobr:
How is it with jelly FW
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] bartjeh1991:
Anyone knows a solution to get more colours into our xperia T?

Like an app or something, or build.prop tweaks?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] herzzreh:
Crayons and a wipe cloth?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] leopard_vn:
Please guide me.Way you verify display of XperiaT?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] persept:
I personally like the Sony Xperia TL screen better than the old LG Nitro HD I had, though the Sony's screen does seem a bit reserved and seems to have less contrast, I think the color is more true to reality.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] imgrshpr:
the phone must be rooted. run a terminal emulator, type SU, followed by DMESG. scroooooooooooolll till you find "found panel vendor: mipi_xxxx_panel"
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] SirFork:
I like the display having a limited FOV but most of all its ability to look great even with the brightness levels turned down the colors still look great.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Mahdian57:
never worked for me. I mean can't find this words: panel, mipi, found and . . .

current rom: JB also not work in ICS.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] olimjon:
you must have root access just type in terminal

- su

- dmesg|grep -i panel
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] _Raziel666:
Does this work on CM ROMS or just Sony ones? What is the proper xxxx value?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] olimjon:
dont know CM but in Stock you should get something like

found panel vendor:mipi_xxx_panel mine says tmd (toshiba mobile display)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] _Raziel666:
How many vendors have been reported so far?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] olimjon:
There are a few lines but I think the first line shows what panel you have

Sent from my LT30p
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Mahdian57:
What'S wrong?!
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] olimjon:
Restart your phone then double press space after grep

Sent from my LT30p
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Mahdian57:
Thanks
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Mahdian57:
Mine is good and I don't have washed colour. except I think white color needs balancing.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] pan.tadeusz:
mine is tmd panel and I was comparing with two Xperia Z and one T.

found another T with deeper shadows and much warm tonality but less contrast and something like mine was brighter especially in dark areas.

angels looked the same - were ok.

hard to say which one's better. both are good for some reasons i think :)

but compared to Z mine XT was much better - i mean brighter, more contrast colors and better deeper black - whole image looked more crisp than on Z.

colors in those two Z were always colder and less saturated.

1280 vs 1920 --> I was looking for better HD and found both looked exactly the same.

don't know about panels of those Zs (sharp or JDC?) mine XT is TMD
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] dubist:
im from Germany and i got the Xperia T from o2 Germany and i noticed the problem with the washing out colours from side view .

But perhaps the protective foil that came with our Xperia T is too bad on angle view ?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tom369:
I don't think the screen protector would be polarizer-like to give such effects. It's just the screen itself having poor viewing angles.

And in the first place: why do they put screen protectors on their phones? It's quite funny, is this a proof their screens are really so prone to scratches? Maybe at last they should apply something like Gorilla Glass on it.

And generally I think Sony has yet to understand the importance of the screen in a modern smartphone.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Spectre51:
Its a film to prevent the screen from shattering into a bunch of pieces. Just keeps the glass all together if it does crack and acts as a screen protector.

I'm glad they put it on. Saves me from having to buy one initially as I always put on screen protectors.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ ion
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Ryknex:
I've Found A Very Strange Facts On This Sony 'FLAGSHIP' Facts

Its Like: The Biggest Screen=Flagship (AND THAT MAY NOT ALWAYS HAVE ALL THE FEATURES)

And We Will Always Keep The 2nd Best Phone (Just Next To Flagship One) In The Front...Disappointing The Flagship Owners:mad:

It Just Happened With The NXT Series, Xperia S Is Flagship, BUT Xperia P Is The Best Featured (Carrying, Metal Unibody,Wi-Fi Direct, White Magic, Capacitive Button On The Tranparent Bar, Now They Are Putting 'Extended Battery Life (So Called Feature) On Its ICS Update)

Just Like That They Are Bringing Xperia V (With LTE, IP57 Cert, 342ppi, Bravia Engine 2, 4.0 Bluetooth Over Xperia T), Now I'm Not Bringing Any Of There So Called Flagship:mad:

F**K The "Flagship"
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] batman_112:
After reading this thread, I am thinking of returning my Xperia T upon its arrival on Monday! I bought it from Clove and they shipped it to me via DHL to the US...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] hygor88:
I received my Xperia T on Friday and the colours on my screen are way better than those shown here... I've actually been blown away by how crisp, clear and vibrant the display is. I'm still playing with the phone (LT30p UK version) but am thrilled so far and it seems like a great replacement for my old Xperia Arc.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] batman_112:
That is great to hear! I also bought mine from Clove UK and I am expecting it tomorrow. I am also replacing my arc (which I enjoyed)! :good:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] dubist:
i had Xperia Arc -> Galaxy S2 and now Xperia T and i love the Display and the smoothness :D

the problem with the display must be an seldom case , tested my display 10min ago and dont have this blurry washed out colours.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] batman_112:
Where did you get yours?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Logi_Ca1:
Prospective Xperia T buyer here... So there's no consensus on the quality of the screen? I hope OP could alert Sony's facebook to this (let's hope your country's Sony is more responsive than mine, mine totally doesn't get the idea of "Social Networking")
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] dubist:
from o2 Germany
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] blindwarrior:
Need an additional test

Can you post another comparison, this time of a similar level of brightness between all 3, rather than the same setting on the slider?

It looks like the conclusion that the T's display @ full brightness is inferior to the ion @ full brightness EDIT: IS VALID (lol bad omisssion), but what about a realistic level of brightness? Does the T outperform the ion at that level?

And it's hard to tell from the pictures, but which phone is actually brighter at 100%? Is the T any brighter?

If we have that comparison, we are a step closer to making a good judgment about this.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] thejosetree:
Begginning of the post, three devices at 25% of brightness.

Anyway believe me that in any level of brightness the T look washed out, and Ion look awesome.

I can't do anymore test because I've returned the device.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] miki_69:
will you be getting new XT? If so, please post images of new unit, I'm interested to see if this is an isolated case eg "lemon"...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] robito99:
yes the same here. the xperia t looks washed out. i compared it with some other xperia (s,go,active,arc s)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] For_itembine:
I heard it has a plastic screen protector on it. did you take that off?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] doministry:
This is just a spam guys.

Faulty handset or strange angles.

Xperia T has definitely a great screen confirmed by the owners.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] sidneylopsides:
I'm just getting some pictures comparing the T, S, One X and IPhone 5. I'll do a video of angles.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] peetr_:
People please, it's just a device.

Device, which is not so expensive at release date, like devices that are offered by other manufacturers a few months already.

Even if the display is not the top of displays, it is not bad. I think I've seen all available videos and photos of the screen and my feelings about it are not bad. Some other users here are writing, that it's nice.

Looks to me, that the truth is somewhere in the middle. And screen is such part of the phone I can adapt to without problems.

Try to compare prices of GS3 or OneX with X. T at their release dates. And overall, this X. T hardware is better.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Snow_fox:
I'd greatly appreciate some pictures comparing it to the One X.

I have seen the Galaxy S3 screen and I know opinions are absolutely useless but, I am really impressed by the One X screen as it appears very sharp, very crisp and the S3 feels very "dull" even if it seems more "vibrant" (Sorry I suck at describing this kind of stuff.)

And I might be crazy but, I don't consider bad viewing angles entirely a bad thing.. If it is harder for other people to see what I am doing.. more power to me..

So a chance to see some One x Vs T pictures would really be beneficial to me.. My girlfriend is a much more visual person than I am.. I care more about the Dev support..