yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
And got a reply from koush. He said changing the lun file in the recovery.fstab will allow the mounting of both. Not sure what he meant. But I will get you one working with touch hopefully later today.
[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
It's alright. Odds are won't be using the app for anything anyway.

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[HTC Rezound] dragonstalker:
i'm actually working on an updated cwm touch for ics/jb roms. cool that they have updated their repo.
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
I modified the recovery.fstab. It will make the install menu just a little different wording though. It will mount the external_sd when inside of recovery. I will figure out how to mount both. Oh it is a touch recovery still.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joh56l6duehehdn/07X_lIR-gA/CWM_Touch_6.0.2.3_Vigor_PH98IMG.zip
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Forked it from here. https://github.com/Flyhalf205/android_device_htc_vigor

I've actually updated it a little. Added TWRP into it. You can use if you like. It's pretty much exactly what is needed for CWM and TWRP if you were building your own repo
[HTC Rezound] dragonstalker:
Appreciate the work. Thanks a bunches.
[HTC Rezound] YTHero:
I feel like an idiot right now. I downloaded the recovery from the site in the OP (touch version), but I can't get it to install in the boot loader. I renamed the img to ph98img.zip, and the bootloader basically says it's not a valid file. So then I zipped the img file using ES File explorer and named the zip file ph98img.zip. The bootloader loads the zip, goes to parsing and then stops without installing the recovery.

I'm trying to install this from my phone because I'm out of town and don't have access to my pc.

Sent from my rezound.
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Here! https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joh56l6duehehdn/07X_lIR-gA/CWM_Touch_6.0.2.3_Vigor_PH98IMG.zip

Download this. Rename it to PH98IMG.zip on the root of the sdcard....blah...blah...blah lol
[HTC Rezound] YTHero:
Worked perfectly. What is the normal way to make a flash able zip from your phone?

Sent from my rezound.
[HTC Rezound] siulmagic:
thanks alots man, appreciate it
[HTC Rezound] CharliesTheMan:
To make it easy I usually grab a PH98IMG.zip I know is good, and then Sie 7 zip to delete the old recovery.IMG and drop the new file in its place named the same and everything.

That method with 7 zip keeps you from having to extract and then rezip and sign and all that business, because it let's you work in a zip file in its original form.
[HTC Rezound] CUBENSIS:
What's new in 6.0.2.5?
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Nothing. Lol. Koush just changes the number before he updates a batch of devices.
[HTC Rezound] Damasterjj:
I've always use amonra how does this compare?
[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
I've been using it for a few days now. Very similar and now with official support we also have both sd cards accessible without issue. Only difference I know of is the wipe/formats. You can't do a downgrade of the partitions to ext3

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[HTC Rezound] hgoldner:
You also can't wipe boot with TWRP (which you can with Amon Ra). Otherwise, has many more features than Amon Ra.
[HTC Rezound] dalvear88:
This recovery is great! Only thing i can't get it to do is backup my current ROM from the ROM manager app. Anyone else have this issue?
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
You need to use an old ROM Manager like 5.0.1.1
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
HERE: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q1uuiqke2vodgv4/RomManager-Good.apk

Thanks Nils for the apk given to me
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
I opened this bug a long time ago and many versions of RM later still not working including his latest.

https://github.com/koush/ROMManagerManifest/issues/413

Maybe you and I can figure out what he changed to not pass the version of RM correctly
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Might be able to edit the actual working version of RM version to one so that I won't be updated in the market. I can see what I can figure out.

I also asked him on https://plus.google.com/u/0/116726734801652090927/posts/V3pDeNrGote He seems to reply pretty well on it. We'll see if he ever fixes it.
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
I just ran through a bunch of tests and the only versions of ROM Manager and CWM touch that work together correctly are:

CWM Touch_6.0.1.9 and RM 5.0.1.1

CWM Touch_6.0.2.3 and 6.0.2.5 don't seem to work with any version of RM

Strange but my guess is a mismatch of the fstab's
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Interesting. I just updated my ROM Manager today to 5.5.1.1. Tried it with CWM Touch 6.0.2.5 and it worked fine. The 6.0.1.9 Touch is an actual port from the Nexus 7.if your using the one I ported over.

Koush does know about the external storage problem. He will be fixing it so he says on that link a few post back.
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
Hmmm

So you were able to install from external with the latest RM and the 6.0.2.5 you posted above?

I choose install zip from sdcard then pick rom zip from ext_sd with rom in root and it fails.

By the way when I instal 6.0.2.5 from post 1 it says it is 2.3 in recovery

I will try again
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
I might have posted the wrong file in the OP. Will check into this when I get home.

But I just tried a backup. I will try to install a file from sdcard and sdcard2 and see. But last time I checked it let me install from internal sdcard but not the ext_sd

EDIT: So looks like v5.0.1.1 RM works with internal and external .zip files and it does have the external storage option available in the RM settings. It could revolve around that setting sorta. If RM won't recognize an external sdcard then it won't flash from one inside of CWM.

EDIT: The file in the OP should be fixed now. I added touch and non touch
[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
Another quick bug report. My S-On installer is not compatible with any version of CWM.
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
That is curious. How different is the script from what Joel uses in his kernel installer. His seems to work fine for me. Nils should work on here also. The classic recovery I made from source worked so I don't see why it wouldn't work on the official.

BTW. That last bug you found about RW not recognizing CWM. There is a setting inside of RW to select to make RW think it's installed. So easy fix. You ever thought about putting your stuff on RM? Make my life more convienvent to get your kernel lol
[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
Technically, it's 99% the same just with the aroma overlay for Sense version/Init.d mods. I'll test it again. Nah, I havent thought about it at all lol
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Just think about it. You (Snuzzo) would bring a purpose to use ROM Manager again lol I'll do some testing on your installer script and see if I can get it working too.

EDIT: Blah it was working for a second lol

EDIT 2: I think I know why mine is working. MUST DO MORE TESTING!!!
[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
Throw me a pm on how to get on it.
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
I think I know why. If you look on your internal sdcard you will see the PH98IMG.zip file there corerct. Well when Koush forked my github. She changed the recovery.fstab a little bit. Changed the internal sdcard to "sdcard" and external sdcard to "external_sd" WHY DID HE? I have no idea lol. But I think that is why it isn't working

EDIT: Your post wasn't posted yet above lol :P

EDIT: inside of copyToSD.sh. Any way of changing that to a /dev/block or somehow declaring which mount is the actual sdcard?
[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
It's already defining the proper block for the external sd in updater-script. Just tested again, not working for me on the OP Touch version. Not even putting a PH98IMG.zip on either cards.
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Even though it is defining the proper block. When it is told to copy to sdcard. It is going to whatever the recovery.fstab has set as sdcard which in this case is the internal sdcard. I just updated the 2 recoveries in the OP. Seems to be working again. I just changed the mount names back to how I had them set. Try again with either one please.
[HTC Rezound] zounduser:
I left the rez, and recently found another mint condition for really cheap. So im back! While i wait on my DNA to get back. Us this working 100% n0w? Thanks

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[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
@Flyhalf

The one in the OP works gorgeous.
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
@flyhalf205

6.0.2.5 works great with RM 5.0.1.1 and OTA Updater and Aroma but still the same problem with later versions of RM as I reported to Koush re. CWM says RM is too old. By the way, same problem with his versions

Thanks for the update
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Yes!
[HTC Rezound] zounduser:
Sweet. Thank u sir.

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[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Does OTA Updater use the internal or external sdcard? If we can move all our downloads to the internal everything will work with the newer RM. I have my internet downloads to internal_sd so I just click when finished and auto loads with RM and installs fine.

And can someone elaborate a little to Koush to what I am talking about at https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_vigor/pull/1

I tried but he thinks I am talking about mounting both partitions still

He needs to get the mount names back to how they were so our s-on installers will work properly. Thanks :D
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
The OTA updater can use either. It is a build.prop setting. However then it has problems with TWRP. AR I think only works on externel but I will have to check
[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
@Flyhalf

I can do aroma menubox/if-else updater scripting for choices on a different recovery version but again, your current one works with the scripting as is. Up to you just let me know if I need to change anything on my end my friend. :)
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
That would work but isn't that getting a little too advanced for the simple s-on user? lol Maybe there is a if-else code we can use inside of the copyToSD.sh that would look for the external_sd first then redirects to sdcard.

I will get to working on it when I get home tonight and see if I can find any solution.
[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
Not too advanced no, to the end user it would just be a simple "choose your recovery" "twrp" "cwm" "amon ra" then if "cwm" run this else run this in updater.
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
You would need two CWM listings though. Official CWM and Flyhalf205 CWM. If selected the official CWM it would copy it to internal sdcard. Unless I just did away with my copy of CWM. I keep mine up here because it keeps the correct mount names
[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
If official comes your current-in-OP-mountpoints then all is well and no updates needed. Where-as the latter happens, yes would need a 4th choice but still an if-else will suffice and I know exactly where to place that portion of the script.
[HTC Rezound] zkrp5108:
Does CWM work on this phone now it used to have issue but i walways preferred it. I see alot of amon ra required in peoples roms will this cater to that issue.?
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Yes...............Download is in OP if you didn't know.
[HTC Rezound] zkrp5108:
I did lol thanks
[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
@FlyHalf

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_vigor/pull/1

I finally had found the time to comment on your pull request. LOL
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
Flyhalf205

When I download with the good version of RM all I get is the 2.3 Touch Recovery. Has Koush not put 2.7 up yet?

Also, even with 2.7 installed it shows 2.3 as current in RM
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
I actually make and build the 2.7 builds. Koush is probably going to keep 2.3 until he does a massive device batch upgrade which he did recently. RM actually grabs the latest version from https://github.com/koush/ROMManagerManifest/blob/gh-pages/devices.js So even with any newer version of CWM. RM will only see whats on that page.

I hope that made sense.
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
Understood.

Shame 2.3 does not work with any version of RM on the Rezound
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
What if we changed the mounts to emmc and sdcard to match the recovery mounts. Do you think if we changed it the newest RM might work? Since the new RM is suppose to support the sdcard.
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
Might work. Worth a try anyway.

Thanks
[HTC Rezound] ktdt00:
Hey guys,

I've read and re-read the OP and the thread and I'm still not exactly clear.

1) Can I use the PlayStore version of RM now or do I still need to use the "good" version from the OP?

2) Is the official 2.3 version of CWM that RM downloads a "fixed" version or do I need 2.7 from the OP?

I installed PlayStore RM and official 2.3 CWM and it appears to be working but maybe I haven't tripped over whatever is wrong with the official versions yet?

Thanks!!
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Nothing is wrong with the official version unless you are S-ON. That is a different story. You can use both. If your s-on use the OP version. S-OFF you can choose whichever one makes you feel good at night lol
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
@ NilsP

Seems like RM works with the CWM in the OP on AOSP. I assume because the mount names match up. So changing our Sense ROMS mounts to emmc and sdcard would make it work but is that too complicated for users? That is how it was on the DINC
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
I hesitate to do that because of the confusion it could cause going to and from different ROM's. Since most people are abandoning RM it just does not seem worth the effort. Especially since people can just stick with the GOOD version of RM in your OP and your posted version of CWM if they want the combo.

The best would be for Koush to make your version work with RM.

Thanks
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
Re: [RECOVERY][12/31/2012]ClockworkMod Touch v6.0.2.7

Do you have any idea why he is not interested in making your touch version work with the latest RM.

I use RM and CWM for a lot of reasons and getting tired of seeing updates to RM that never work.
[HTC Rezound] Quantumrabbit:
If all of you would put a 1 star review on Google Play, I bet you that would change fast.
[HTC Rezound] Snuzzo:
+1 @ Nils

@Flyhalf

Did the EMMC/Sdcard issue ever get cleared up? I've not been following the commits on CWM since switching back to TWRP.
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Re: [RECOVERY][12/31/2012]ClockworkMod Touch v6.0.2.7

The biggest reason it isn't going to work is because of the mount paths. They don't match the recovery paths. Emmc and sdcard is what HTC should have made this phone. Do you use the version in the OP?

Has not been cleared up. But the version in the OP has the correct mounts.

Are you s-off Snuzzo? So the mounts shouldn't mess with you then

Btw Rom manager works great with twrp
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
Yes, I am using your latest with the working RM. I would just like to be able to update to the latest RM. Just don't understand why he won't take what works for the Rezound in the older RM and put it in the latest RM.
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
I bet you aren't using my latest :p But I have a few ideas I might try I didn't think about before with getting the newer RM to work. But I have no hope that they will work.
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
Your right. I am on 2.7 touch

Installing 2.8 right now

EDIT: 2.8 works with old RM fine. Don't expect it to work with new RM so will wait for your suggestion
[Thunderbolt General] gammaxgoblin:
Can anyone offer an explanation of the insidious posts and flaming of anyone who even mentions the possibility of a status update? Is it fear that the dev will abandon the work? Is it a chance to appear noble? A chance to seemingly gain the approval of the dev? What is the motivation?

I would really enjoy is this thread could stay high level and without accusation and judgment!
[Thunderbolt General] mgenova:
Im no dev but I would imagine the requests for an eta for a devs work gets annoying. Kind of like kids in the back seat of a car yelling "are we there yet are we there yet!" So the get flamed. Sit in the car and be quiet. You'll know when were there.
[Thunderbolt General] bwpopper:
This.
[Thunderbolt General] natypes:
It seems highly ungrateful to ask when a dev is going to be finished with something. They are doing this in their spare time and without pay other than donations. They don't 'owe' us anything.
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
As noted, these folks do this generally because they enjoy it. It's also a "spare time" kind of thing, I would hope ! They have NO schedule nor obligation. They aren't being paid to do this.

Also realize, official updates from the carrier or manufacturer happen what, once a year ? Twice a year if one's lucky ? A custom ROM probably sees 2-3x the number of updates if not more !
[Thunderbolt General] gammaxgoblin:
All good answers. However I'm more so asking about they mentality of the people who feel it necessary to "protect the dev" and why they feel it's their responsibly to do so ?
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
I dont feel I'm "protecting the dev" by telling someone to stop asking for an eta. It's unnecessary to ask for an eta. The dev will tell us when its ready until then just relax. Go back to a more stable Rom until there is an update if there is a bug you can't work around. It takes time to test for bugs and fix them.
[Thunderbolt General] FirePsych:
Boredom and frustration and impatience. Pretty much the same things that make us do most if the dumb annoying stuff we do.

Actually that's probably true for the askers as well as the defenders.
[Thunderbolt General] trter10:
Because 1) are tired of seeing "ETA?" posts and 2) don't want the dev to stop work because they like what they are doing
[Thunderbolt General] gammaxgoblin:
Is the asking for an eta what is inflammatory or is it the responses that chastise the asker what escalate the argument? What would happen if the post asking for an eta was just completely ignored by everyone as though it wasn't there?
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
If it is ignored enough you'll have 50 more is it done yet posts to follow that. If people would just be patient the updates will come.
[Thunderbolt General] heath2805:
Most devs see what's being posted, even if they just glance over threads. I'm sure it makes them angry to hear nothing but complaining about their hard work. And to top it off w/ ETA' s is ridiculous.
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
This is the internet we're talking about! People don't know how to ignore anything!! :D
[Thunderbolt General] gammaxgoblin:
What I'm really trying to ask is why do people feel obligated to defend the developers, not why we shouldn't ask for etas?
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
A**-kissing :D :D
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
How come it means someone is defending the developer if people get mad for someone else asking for an eta? It's just a courtesy that the community has extended to devs for as long I have been on xda.
[Thunderbolt General] gammaxgoblin:
I don't know, I don't understand the behavior, which is why I am asking. And it is very cool that this discussion has stayed civil! Tyvm.
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
I think the problem is that those of us who get mad are probably older members that understands the courtesy. Now there are a lot of new members that weren't around for the original arguments.
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
There's probably no "think" about it. Check the join date (not the 'post count' because many people are "lurkers") of those who ask for ETAs and I'll bet a pattern will be clear ! ;)
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
It would be nice if they just went back to lurking and let the devs worry about making the Rom and not etas.
[Thunderbolt General] gammaxgoblin:
Not necessarily. An example would be how I joined here when I got the droid 2. There was no point in being on xda for the droid 2. So no lurking, just no need to be here. Now with the thunderbolt,xda is the place to be.

What developers ever quit a project over being asked for etas?
[Thunderbolt General] gammaxgoblin:
The site has a lot of policies about appropriate speech and behavior. What haven't these type of sites created a policy about etas if it is an actual problem?
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
ProTekk ?
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
I think workshed may have moved over to rootz because of it. I know newt won't dev if he gets asked. He already said he won't.
[Thunderbolt General] gammaxgoblin:
I would imagine such a clearly drawn line would be stated in every opening post, unless telepathy is a prerequisite.
[Thunderbolt General] gammaxgoblin:
He is still developing.
[Thunderbolt General] nitsuj17:
^ this to a large extent

honestly though? (only speaking for myself, not all encompassing answer) i just find it difficult enough to navigate through my own rom threads if im afk for a day or two and have to sort though hundreds of posts....that i dont need to see a bunch of "when is the update coming?" "or yo when is something new coming" posts

ill usually inform when im nearing an update or think i can get one out....just find it aggravating from someone with 14 posts that joined xda 2 months ago feeling entitled to more information than im already providing
[Thunderbolt General] gammaxgoblin:
So ultimately you are saying that in one specific case in which you have a personal relationship with a developer and have knowledge beyond the average user, you defend his work because you know he has threatened to cease development. That is understandable.
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
I guess you don't realize it so I'm going to tell you. Nitsuj is a Rom developer. A good one at that. The threads they post roms in are for bug finding and or discussing fixes. Who in the hell wants to read through all the crap that gets started with asking for an eta? Plus, if you're the developer why should you have to sift through the bs because one impatient person wants to ask a stupid question? Now not only do we have people asking for etas constantly we have people that can't find useful information and keep asking the same question over and over. Hopefully the mods don't close the liquid threads because a couple of impatient "lurkers" we'll call em want to ask when the update is coming.
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
He was developing for the Rezound and stopped because of "needy" users.
[Thunderbolt General] gammaxgoblin:
That was directed at you, not the post that directly above it. Lol sorry.
[Thunderbolt General] gammaxgoblin:
This thread keeps going the direction of "why not to ask for etas" I know why not to. I'm asking why do various users feel the need, and what is their psychological motivation, for impolitely flaming those who ask for the eta. I would understand the dev flaming the asker, but what makes others feel it's their place to flame and that is ok?
[Thunderbolt General] killahrey:
because we feel like it. /thread
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
What I would like to know is how come it is impolite to get pissed at them asking for an eta? It is just as impolite for them to even be asking. We aren't the devs bosses so why should they even be obligated to give us an eta? We also do.t pay them for making the roms. Sure they may get some donations here and there but it certainly isn't going to pay their bills.
[HTC One S] YousufWalton:
OK so i used the RUU for putting it back the tmous 1.8 and the 1.53 wont work, I did this after the update screwd my Wifi up wanting to go back and NOT update. i keep getting error 155 or what not it just wont work, i relocked the boot loader etc etc. and nothing just wont work. i did make a CW backup yesterday of my orginal thing will that fix my problems untill we can figure out why my ruu flashing wont work?
[HTC One S] YousufWalton:
if anyone wants it, i could possibly give the backup i made before doing the ota update. if it owuld help anyone to fix this. it was done just yesterday.
[HTC One S] usaff22:
What error does it say for 155?