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[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
There will always be whiners and idiots. The only time I get lag in my phone is when playing heavy games, yes the iphone 4 plays better because of unification of iOS we all know that. If you want to play the latest games you will have to upgrade your android phone sooner than an iphone.

The nexus S on jelly bean utterly destroys any other single core android phone, is that not enough for you? I have an xperia arc S lying around running android 4.0.4 and it isnt as smooth as nexus S despite having a much faster CPU.

The only problem on jelly bean is the slow installing process for applications and boot time. I think that has everything to do with our phone having slower flash memory like the galaxy S had and there is nothing google can do about it. Android is a very powerful OS you have to keep within limits of your phones capabilities or else you will have performance issues. If you cant do that then get an iphone!!

I think there is also the problem of a misconception that the iphone is totally smooth and problem free which is absolutely not the case. The iphone 4 can heavily lag as well in various scenarios.
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
gambler, you brought up a good point about downloading apps... I noticed one thing when I reading the hype up to jellybean. I could've sworn I heard before JB was coming out that the UPDATING process for apps was gonna be faster because it was only going to be updating the files the app needed. However, it seems that it still updates the entire app. Anyone notice this?
[Nexus S General] ekerazha:
Those bugs are confirmed by Google and they are widely reported, maybe you have a special phone built just for you.
[Nexus S General] klinker:
Or maybe the devs here are better then googles devs :D

On the road with my NexusS...
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
just because alot of people complain about those "bugs" does not mean that 100% of nexus s users are experiencing them. hp420 said he hasn't experienced it also; that should show you that google is just confirming "yes, it's happening, but not for everyone"
[Nexus S General] robogoflow:
I actually had time to really play with jelly bean on a tmobile gnex and i gotta say you really notice a difference when you are use to the nexus s.

The only thing that slowed me down was the on screen keys but wow its smooth. The three things my phone does that disappoints me is the google now takes forever.(when i try to impress people, its takes so long that they lose interest and look away). The other is when im driving i voice command my google now to find directions and it takes so long that it has become hazardous. And the last thing is sometimes when multitasking from watching something on youtube, then i hit browser by accident and then back that then hit xda app the phone seems to like panic and just slow down. BUT!!! on the Gnex it was soo smooth. The phone was all stock by the way and just switching apps and google now are so smooth that damn i wish i have the money to get one now!

If you have Jellybean on your Nexus S and are disappointed like me, try it on the Gnex or Nexus 7(Gamestop has demo pads set up) before you hate the OS. I just think google is doing nice fancy stuff and it just requires standard hardware which at October 2012 is multi-core processors, Hd screens, And Gigs of RAM. The NS is just 1 gig single core with 512 MB of RAM.

Try to look at it this way. Im grateful the jellybean OS even exists!!!

Imagine.(might be harder for some to do this but its the only way to see the positives.)

Verizon Wireless gets what they want and they are the only carrier.

Apple gets what they want and everyone has a 4s or 5.

Everyone who wants a mobile phone has to be on verizon wireless with an iphone.

Thats should be enough said to make you love jellybean.
[Nexus S General] ekerazha:
If Google confirmed those bugs, it means that those bugs are in the source code, it's an objective fact, it's not an opinion.
[Nexus S General] styckx:
Not really. The bugs exist, especially the first one listed which is mainly affecting any paid app that require being loaded during boot because Google slid some DRM into the market for use w/ Jellybean.. Keyboards and widgets are two of the main apps affected by this bug.. Widgets disappear from the homescreen after a reboot, keyboards become disabled. The only way to fix it is to back up the apps in Titanium, uninstall it from the market and restore the backup.

Look in your /data/app-asec folder. This folder won't exist on ICS.. Now if any of those apps in that folder are a service that should be started during a reboot they will be ignored because the folder is mounted after the fact because it's sitting on the `sdcard'.

ie: It's supposed to start, it doesn't appear to actually exist so the start is ignored.. Paid Widgets and keyboards are two huge victims of this bug.
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
the majority of people here with a nexus s have their phones rooted. Maybe their roms fixed those problems and made jellybean better? sooo if it is a problem it must be a problem with stock jellybean.
[Nexus S General] eksasol:
Craving for Key Lime Pie now.
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
I have beautiful widgets and I have no such problem.
[Nexus S General] ekerazha:
Install beautiful widgets (paid app) from Play Store (no titanium backups, no cracked version, no alternative markets etc.), connect the phone to the PC and enable the USB mass storage... bye bye widgets
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
Yes I have the legit version from play store. And I thought you were talking about reboot I don't know about mass storage as I have been using airdroid mostly for data transfer I'll check this out.
[Nexus S General] ekerazha:
Sometimes

widgets survive a reboot (I don't know why), but they never survive a USB mass storage connection.
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
They ALWAYS survive a reboot for me as I reboot my phone every other day and not once has that happened.
[Nexus S General] klinker:
Me to...and pure grid calendar to.

On the road with my NexusS...
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
There's only that keyboard problem that I had until I did the titanium trick. I don't usually like to pay for apps so these widget problems is something I wouldn't experience
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
Wow so I did USB mass storage and this is ridiculous.

The saddest part is there was no such problem when I was not using the legit version of beautiful Widgets. So much for trying to help the devs I only recently started paying for apps and this is so disappointing. I don't usually use USB mass storage but for serious file management its the most convenient thing.

Is this an issue with galaxy nexus as well? I suppose it may not be since it doesnt have USB mass storage.
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
Actually I just remembered something.. For widgets they always have to stay on internal storage.. This has been ongoing from ics.. I've noticed it from 4.0.4.. The widgets will vanish from the drawer if u move it to us by mass storage.. It's unfortunate but I've learned to just keep my necessary widgets on internal storage and all my other apps in usb mass storage
[Nexus S General] klinker:
This was in Froyo and GB to. I remember this when i have G Ace.

On the road with my NexusS...
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
So even my ringtone got reset after USB mass storage what the hell is going on? I know during mass storage it changes tone but always goes back when you exit it. Do I uninstall all paid apps or something? :S

I don't have anything important installed in SD storage.
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
Seems like its an issue with nexus 7 as well? Unbelievable they havent fixed it yet. :S

And seems like the ringtone issue was just a one-off case. I have re installed beautiful widgets through titanium backup and it works fine now. Also the apex pro theme issue is also only with that one theme it seems not all the themes.
[Nexus S General] ekerazha:
The "titanium trick" is unacceptable... and you have to do the trick on every update.

Welcome to the club.

The point is that paid apps on Jelly Bean 4.1.1 are installed to /mnt/asec and they have the same behavior as apps installed to the external storage, also if they are installed in the internal storage.
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
either way man but all of my widgets that i have under "internal storage" NEVER turn black or ever disappear. I have all of my other apps that i dont use for widgets under mass storage.
[Nexus S General] ekerazha:
Conclusion: Google

MUST

release a fix for these issues. The fact that they still have to release a fix is already ridiculous, this is plain incompetence.
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
But what paid widgets do you have?
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
Actually I have none, but maybe just try keeping the widgets u use in internal storage and it'll work anyway
[Nexus S General] pjsnyc:
Normally, I don't do things like this...buuuuuuut I had the day off today, so I made ya'll a little video. After reading some of the comments on this thread, I completely know where people are coming from when it comes to Jelly Bean being laggy. I mean really - sometimes it would take a full minute for the app drawer to display my apps. I'd just sit there watching the circular wait icon to just do its thing...

...

.

...until I exercised some restraint on widgets. Not sure if its a coincidence, but as soon as I got rid of unecessary widgets (flipboard and google reader to name the apparent culprits in my particular case) jelly bean got much much smoother much more reliably.

Some background - this ROM is OMJs stock jelly bean build for the NS4G.

-I use Nova launcher

-the screen brightness was set to about 40% (except for when I was making the video).

-I installed the latest stable version of Air Kernel (65 fps, bigmem)

-2 google accounts syncing at all times.

-facebook messenger, instagram, foursquare, google+ services running

-I've been running this build for the past week or so. I took the phone off the charger at midnight (12:00) last night (time reads about 4:30 PM at end of video).

-A few apps update every few hours (instafetch, newsrob, nytimes, beyondpod, gtasks, evernote)

-I usually have 4G turned off until I need it

-All apps seen are up to date (I have google play autoupdate apps)

-I wish I had included the long-press home to show you the tasks window - its pretty smooth and pops up the thumbnails faster than ICS

Bugs I just have to deal with

-For some reason Google Earth crashes on me no matter what i try

-simply bringing up a search box can lag for a second or two

Obviously, your mileage may vary...but I am extremely pleased with how this operates overall. This video was taken earlier today. Please hit me up if you have any other questions about my setup. ..Sorry for the blurry cam, you can probably make most things out anyway.

[YOUTUBE]tKlP8rwJDg4[/YOUTUBE]
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
Yes one should not be using so many widgets on a phone like nexus S thats just asking for trouble. I use weather, music and airdroid widgets and there is no lag.

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Not a problem with any free widget, as I said I cracked beautiful widgets and there is no problem now lol thats the most ridiculous thing a legit owner ever did.
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
Well there's always around everything on Android.. That's the nice thing bout the Development community here
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
Yes but I think that can have a drawback as well in that companies can get slower to actually fix the problem.

Honestly the titanium backup thing is NOT a good solution, effortlessly getting the latest updates is one big reason why I pay for an app.

And also these sort of problems can make me hesitant to recommend android to noobs. It seems like google has abandoned the nexus S after jelly bean update, they didnt even fix the CRT animation of i9023.
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
I hear ya.. Can u blame Google tho? I they're probably busy making the new nexus and that's probably their priority right now.. I highly doubt that the nexus s is gonna get much support at the moment
[Nexus S General] jayjay3333:
"We’re releasing Android 4.1.2 to AOSP today, which is a minor update

on top of 4.1.1.

As a note to maintainers of community builds running on Nexus 7: please update to 4.1.2 at the first opportunity. Future variants of the grouper hardware will have a minor change in one of the components (the power management chip) that will not be compatible with 4.1.1.

The build number is JZO54K, and the tag is android-4.1.2_r1.

Enjoy,

Conley and JBQ

http://androidspin.com/2012/10/09/google-releases-android-4-1-2-update-to-aosp/
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
How can you not blame google? I am not asking for android 4.2 but they should fix this. It's one thing not updating a phone and quite another to just abandon it with a horrible bug. You bet a galaxy S or iphone wouldnt be left with such a bug due to massive users complaining about it which would get into the media and then the companies have to respond very quick.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxTTcc:
Hello all

I have a problem. I've installed miniCM10 JB 4.1.1. Everything was fine. I got smooth scrolling and my favorite game fruit ninja was running well. But as I set min CPU level to 245 to avoid the black screen bug, when unlocking, somthing whent wrong I think. I stared to have, buttons highligts, as thay are not touched. Picture scrambles, for a second for time to time. And fruit ninja has a heavy, I mean heavy lag. The game itself is running smooth, but touches appear after 3 to 5 seconds later. And some times touches are even not detected. I've experemented with various of options, in performance and developer options menu, no success. The menus and the ui are running smooth.

After that, i've restored the stock rom, via flash tool and stock kernel. Updated the phone via PC Companion, the phone running well, but even with the stock rom, I am getting the touch problem. Way ligher then it was in JB but is there. I've deleted any ext partitions on the sd card. Then flashed the alfs 8 kernel and installed GingerDX as it running perfectly on my phone, and the lag is the same as JB in fruit ninja. Other runnig smooth. Screen view is moving, even in recovery. Like you are not fixed your tv antena, and the picture is not centered but is shifted to the middle of the screen. In the upper side I see the bottom of the screen, if you can understand what I mean. So I am feeling that I have some hardware issue I guess. Any ideas.

Thank you very much.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dagger:
I think that its a h/w issue.

Take your phone to SE.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] athulele:
Yes, it is a hardware problem......I had the same problem - lag in touches, random touches etc. and now the touch is not working at all.:crying:

Your best option is sending it to Sony....:good:
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxTTcc:
Well it realy smell like HW problem. But the X8 is no more in warranty. So, what do you think will be the price for such repair.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fotak-x:
dust in digitizer connector??
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] athulele:
It is highly unlikely.......maybe if he opened the phone....:confused:

but for me it is a HW prob..
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fotak-x:
but i think its the digitizer
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxTTcc:
Possible, but I don't know where is the digitizer. I suppose I must remove the front panel, but I don't know how. I see there are some six corner screws on the back of the panel.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fotak-x:
there is some tuts to change digitizer u should use them
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxTTcc:
Can you link some, because I've searched but didn't find. Thanks
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fotak-x:
wate a lil bit
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxTTcc:
I am here. Thanks a lot.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fotak-x:
didnt find what i want but this is also good,im gonna do this to, just to clean up my x8 :good:

http://erkinson.altervista.org/en/sony-ericsson-xperia-x8-smontaggio-e-sostituzione-display-touch/
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxTTcc:
That was my initial idea. Oke thanks anyway.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fotak-x:
be carefull and dont break x8 :good:

use needed tools not something to sharp or someting that can brake x8 ....
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxTTcc:
You too ;):good:
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxTTcc:
Final conclusion: CPU is dead...
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxTTcc:
Escalated for good. Now I am waiting my new XPERIA ACTIVE ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] B-44:
Blue Angel still is a great device (especially regarding D-Two and his Android for BA-project:good:) with its large sized screen.

The only thing i always missed was GPS. Of course there are car cradles with GPS, but for hiking you always needed an extra device.

Unscrewing BAs i often wondered what this empty black box on top should be good for except carrying the antenna.

Took me some time for research till i found what i was looking for: Teleprovodnik Keychain Bluetooth GPS-Receiver.

The smallest one i could find, fits exactly to the backcover of Blue Angel. (eBay, € 19,--)

So i took a BA-Antenna (pic1,left/middle), peeled it off its carrier straight to the connectors and cut off the carrier right next to them (1/left/top).

Took Teleprovodnik, cut the battery cables and added some wire to connect the battery jack in the middle of the GPS-board with two flat brass contacts fixed to BA's backcover. These contacts are positioned into the outer gaps between those of BA Mainboard (pic4).

[Red is (+), black/blue is (-)]

Now the GPS device can drain its power as soon as BA has booted. If phone is off, the GPS receiver can't drain battery capacity.

Two lucky incidents: on/off switch of GPS is right next to top of backcover, so i mounted a BA volume switch that now serves the on/off of GPS.

(Another possibility would be replacing the IR-Screen by a microswitch (does anyone here still use infrared connection?) and let the one on GPS board turned on.)

And second the LEDs for bluetooth and satellite appear to sit right behind the camera hole. (Yes, i had to dismount the camera; maybe one day i'll find some smaller device, but as i still use a 30 years old analogue Praktika, i don't really miss it.) (both pic3)

Unfortunately Teleprovodnik doesn't have data output through his USB jack, so cable connection is useless and i have to use bluetooth.

But after all it works- after some fight against bluetooth&gps-settings on my BA , i now have a fully working GPS in my blue angel- just tap on wireless/bluetooth on my homescreen, turn the switch and start navigation:cool:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] B-44:
One small problem had to be solved- the level of network connection.

During my mounting experiments i didn't treat the antennafoil very well, cut off some parts...

...and lost about 15% of of network level compared to a second BA on same Network.

Now that the whole system is running, i'll work on optimizing the antenna.

If you put it in the wrong place, it shields the bluetoothconnectors or GPS-signal.

Maybe i'll add some ringantenna...

edit: 10.11.: took new antenna, now folded the parts i in former version had cut off, partly for giving place to switch inwards, and: excellent!

No difference to a non-modified phone any more.

The problem had been less disturbing if you used onboardnavigation; with google maps for example

you sometimes saw where you are on the map, but not the map itself until you reached an

area with better coverage. Tested on O2, which isn't this strong around here.

With Vodafone it's running better, but i keep O2 for testing.

Still sometimes occurs, but now only in areas where i know radio coverage is poor or worse.

I'll add some more detailed pics soon.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] B-44:
Mounting the switch:

First drill two holes, size and place as shown in pic below.

Use a file to remove the plastic between them.

Take a volume switch for Blue Angel, cut off the outer two silver parts.

After checking if the range it serves when placed into the longhole

fits to GPS' switch glue it into the Backcover of your BA.

You need to take two small right angled pieces of plastic, placed on the right side

and in front of the two vertical ribs on both sides of switchhole

(from the now useless antenna holder, has three different sizes) to

connect the switchholder to the upper side of the backcover and a

7x2mm strip roundet at one long edge to support the switch from underneath,

parallel to the horizontal line in backcover under the switchhole

(can be seen on the pic where the red switchholder is missing).

In first version this strip was broader, so i had to cut off a piece of antenna,

which came out to be no good idea. Obviously.

Now antenna fits under the horizontal part of switchholder.

The battery contacts:

Here i've taken some pieces of brass, 2x10mm bent to a hook at one side

so after installation they come parallel to the battery contacts on motherboard.

To place them two gaps have to be filed into the backcover.

The middle of each of these two gaps has to be 2,4mm from the side of the contact hole (a).

By this the GPS contacts sit right between the two outer contacts on each side of battery connector.

(For my proper version i've taken the two battery housing ground contacts from a dead BA, see (c). )

To fix the contacts a strip of black plastic (the thin material from antenna holder,

there's not enough room for the thick one) is glued over them.

At the same time you're doing this remove plastic at point (b) so GPS' board fits in.

Inbetween i found out CMOS backup battery CR2032 cable&plug is similar to the original of GPS receiver,

so i can replace the original one by one coming in one piece.

(some pics will follow)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] Stevemann:
Awesome work!

Thanks.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] B-44:
Don't just say thanks- klick it! (Of course i'm nevertheless glad 'bout it...)

Project is getting better and better, antenna problem solved.

Now working on a proper version for my own everyday-use.

Because of gsm-network-coverage, double-sim should be next project.

Together with D-Two we're heading for Blue Angel 2.0 !:highfive:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] B-44:
...of course i'm just providing a pearl on the icicle of D-Two's cake...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] ares93:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BT-Mini-Key...0570828383?pt=GPS_Devices&hash=item1e66a0ba5f

Found this, in case anyone want to buy something less...russian. Just ordered one.

EDIT: Also, how's your battery life with this thing?