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[EVO Shift 4G General] sixxt9:
I've honestly been completely happy with my shift until reading this thread. That Photon Q kinda intrigues me ... I'll wait and see how the dev work goes with it first though. A phone is only as good as the software behind it. The rom development around here as well as the price point is what made me get the shift in the first place. So it'll likely take similar efforts to pull me away. Slide out keyboard is a must for me though. I'd go back to an OG flip phone before I went touch-exclusive.
[EVO Shift 4G General] kcrudup:
FWIW, I'm part of a team that builds Custom ROMs here on XDA, and I build Android handsets for a living, and all I did was root mine (so I could run apps that need it) - the stock SW works just that well.

But the kernel's been released and Moto's got a minimal overlay, so you could easily play around with it.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Chad The Pathfinder:
It looks like development for the Photon Q is coming along well.

http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)&utm_content
[EVO Shift 4G General] sixxt9:
I guess the major thing I'm worried about is how well I'll like the interface coming from Sense. I've tried the AOSP Shift builds and I could take them or leave them. But I havent looked at phones in awhile because I was so happy with the Shift that I didnt even know the Photon Q was announced or anything. It's definitely piqued my interest.
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
Yes the Photon Q looks very interesting. But like you I'm also very happy with my Shift. Plus I'm a Sense Guy. Don't like stripped down Roms that I have to add a bunch of stuff to.
[EVO Shift 4G General] megaghostgamer:
I've got the LG Spectrum not going back but I haven't been developing for the evo shift lately because my old Dell Inspiron 1501 broke :D I'm getting the inspiron 15R but the lg spectrum just got booting ics but of course its not public yet.. gotta wait but when it is ill be on it and won't be on here as much. Don't get me wrong with cm9 on spectrum that means a lot of good developers will join therefor more roms therefor more for me to port over here. Where do you think mega ics came from? :D its from the official ics leak for the spectrum that we are STILL waiting for. Verizon of course is holding us back. Thank you Verizon -_-.. but yeah I'll stick around here just not as much
[EVO Shift 4G General] kcrudup:
I'm genuinely curious- stuff like what?
[EVO Shift 4G General] VICODAN:
I agree. I just finished playing with a photon at a sprint store and talking to a buddy that works there.

Initial thoughts: great looking brand new phone... However keyboard will need getting used to.

For all you htc fanatics forget it. Htc is not making another shift. He even suggested to stay away from htc hardware wise. (this is a guy that fixes phones all day) and I agree with him after going through 7-8 shifts.

HTC can make a great durable phone brand new but they don't know how to refurb them whatsoever.

So I'd say if you want a "shift 2" the photon is it. That's the phone Sprint is offering for probably the next 2 years.

I also had some concerns about signing another 2 years and when LTE would be up.

They were pretty confident in the dates they gave me.. ill spare Sprint here and leave it up to your imagination, but LTE will be up everywhere very soon.

Still not sure whether its worth the money. 3g speeds are still abysmal but I think with ics, faster cpu, optimized network, evdo rev b even though speed test is the same rate stuff just "feels faster" like youtube.

Personally, I'm waiting for a price drop. My shift works great.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Quetzalcoatl:
Holiday season is coming up lol

That's how I got my free shift.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Chad The Pathfinder:
I'm reading, reading, reading and hopeing that by the time I have to give up my shift either there will be a sense port already available on the Photon Q or I'll be able to port one myself. :D
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
Well I have to first say that I'm defiantly a Sense kind of guy. That being said, I'm used to Rom that's loaded. I don't like having to add things like Google Apps to name one. Not to say that one kind of Rom is better than the other. In the end I guess it just comes down to a matter of preference, and like I said I prefer Sense :) .
[EVO Shift 4G General] megaghostgamer:
Well said :D just found out about this boot manager thing from strapped365 and it made life with custom roms 10x easier! I can now flip through roms super quick :)
[EVO Shift 4G General] VICODAN:
sense? You mean NUISANCE?

Sense sucked until drob311, one_love_420, and dread7us fixed HTC's own rom for them.

Yeah it's got a nice pretty flip clock with weather. Cool. Moving on to bigger and better things now.
[EVO Shift 4G General] VICODAN:
Thanks for the protip.
[EVO Shift 4G General] VICODAN:
I really don't like ICS or JB launcher UIs at all. I just want to run LPP.
[EVO Shift 4G General] megaghostgamer:
Me either my spectrum is getting ics buy lg has its own ui but if you look at mega ics thats the launcher I'm getting :). Neat IMO and I never did like stock launcher either
[EVO Shift 4G General] Quetzalcoatl:
Meh, I'm alright with nova launcher. Bought it when it was for 25 cents. (I never thought it was worth the original price for the additional "features" you get),

Wish my phone had a bigger screen so I could use a launcher like chameleon.
[EVO Shift 4G General] sixxt9:
Didn't realize Sense was so bad stock. My friend was running Supreme on his Shift and playing around with his phone is what made me get a Shift in the first place. I was rockin a blackberry before that. My first real, daily android interaction was with Sense/Supreme ...
[EVO Shift 4G General] VICODAN:
Yes, Supreme is awesome.
[EVO Shift 4G General] CNexus:
Shift all the way for me, upgrade in February but I'll probably save it for sometime in the future.
[EVO Shift 4G General] sixxt9:
Not sure if this has been discussed already, but can you restore a nandroid to another phone (same model of course). The reason i'm asking is because i did the buy back thing when i got my shift, and i now have a spare that i picked up off a buddy when he upgraded. Figured i should sell my original shift back now and get the money for it. Then either upgrade later or just stick with it.

If not, or if no one knows, i'll just reinstall the old fashioned way. That's no big deal to me. I was just curious...
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
I remember trying this once just to see what would happen. I remember it working. By that I mean it Booting up, and functioning. But I cannot remember if everything worked 100% correctly. It's was a really long time ago. I would probably just Re-Flash. But that's just me :silly: .
[EVO Shift 4G General] sixxt9:
As long as I can call and text issue free for the most part I might run with it. I work extended shifts the days I work so if its tolerable I'll do that to get me through and reflash when I'm off.

We've been approved for overtime so I'm planning on picking up some extra days every week til the end of the year.
[EVO Shift 4G General] CNexus:
I've actually seen some threads in other phone forums where they would just post their nandroid backups for testing and stuff, so I'm assuming that this would work, if the phones match anyway.
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
In theory it should work perfectly. But in the real world it's not always the same unfortunately :(

TEAM MiK MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[EVO Shift 4G General] thronnos:
I was scrolling back in the development section. Good times back there.

Shifted from a Zombie Wasteland
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
Ride doesn't have to be over yet.

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[EVO Shift 4G General] CNexus:
This thread feels like a funeral for a long lost friend...
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
They'll be no funerals quite yet ;) .
[EVO Shift 4G General] CNexus:
Lol yeah I hope so, seems too early for everyone to give up, just hoping that our devs keep coming back and being committed like they are :)
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
I'm not so sure about Devs coming back to the Shift. Some may continue the work they already have going. But the big thing is for New Devs to step up ;)

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[EVO Shift 4G General] CNexus:
Yeah thats what I meant, I just hope they keep coming back and keep developing :)
[EVO Shift 4G General] sixxt9:
Just as a follow up (if anyone cares)

Apparently my nandroids weren't generating md5 sums, so i had to do some searching on how to fix that issue. Got that all sorted, super wiped (thanks Dread) and restored my backup. It boots fine but runs a bit laggy. I feel i'd have some slightly better luck if i wasnt running A2SD but oh well. Currently letting miktweaks fix permissions to see how much that helps. Just need it somewhat stable enough to back up a few settings and things then i'll do a full wipe and fresh install.
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
Well I hope you get it all sorted. What settings are you trying to backup ?
[EVO Shift 4G General] sixxt9:
Just settings from certain apps. I ended up getting the Photon Q with my buyback money, and i'm not even gonna try to restore data between devices lol. A lot of that will have to be re-inputed, and some of the settings will have to be changed. Just tryna get this as close to "home" as possible. I'm starting to get used to Motoblur, but i miss Sense tremendously.

So glad i bought that extra Shift. The PQ's keyboard's taking some getting used to as well. I did find the ported htc_ime keyboard so at least texting feels like what i'm used to when using the touchscreen. The main issue is our internet's off at the house right now and they only allow the big wigs at work on wifi. So until i get a day off to go to my buddy's house i havent reinstalled most of my apps yet.

Once that's set and i take care of a few things i might look into doing some minor dev work. The shift community's been too awesome for me to turn my back. Actually havent even posted yet over in the PQ threads lol
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
Well glad your all sorted in a way. Good luck with the MPQ :) . I've read good things about it so far. Just don't forget about us here in the Shift Forums ;) .
[EVO Shift 4G General] Chad The Pathfinder:
I checked out a PQ today and liked it a lot. I'm still going to wait until after the first of the year though before changing. Maybe by then there will be a sense port to the PQ. :D
[EVO Shift 4G General] sixxt9:
I like it a lot. There's a few things I'm still not used to, and with the extra row of keyboard buttons and the spacing/layout slightly different it's been taking some getting used to, but overall it's pretty sweet. I'm just running rooted stock right now, but i've stripped out all the bloatware. Waiting to see how things go with the kernel development and all that. They only seem to have cyanogen roms stable so far and i'm not a huge fan of CM.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Chad The Pathfinder:
I'd say it'll be extreemly hard to put sense on any Motorola. :-/
[EVO Shift 4G General] Quetzalcoatl:
AOSP all the way. :)
[EVO Shift 4G General] :
I'm just waiting for a new phone. I can't upgrade until July :(. I do love the Shift, its keyboard is amazing, and the custom ROM developers are great! However, my Shift is starting to show its age, as it is running very slowly. Sometimes, it takes 5 seconds of ringing before I can even answer a phone call, as it freezes on the screen. Also, my GPS frequently fails to lock on, often taking fifteen minutes of searching before it gives me turn-by-turn navigation. However, if I view the "Directions List", it has the route mapped out already? Very strange.
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
Sounds like it's time for a Fresh Flash of a Rom :)

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[EVO Shift 4G General] Dogahn:
I think for a while I was kicking myself for getting a shift over a photon. Turns out I like the size and weight of the shift, it hits a certain sweet spot there being heavy enough to notice but not so much to despise. Fits my hand rather well too, Photon made my hands feel clumsy. Oh and the FM Radio, use it all the time. Its actually my backup radio at work and it's easy on the battery too can listen all day on a full charge in airplane mode. It's lasted quite a few backpacking trips too, couple of 10,000ft mountains with the GPS tracing on. Versatile little beast.

Dogan

I'm just about done with sense though.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Chad The Pathfinder:
Yea it sounds like you need to do a complete wipe of everything a start from scratch with a fresh flash like prboy1969 said.

My wife has a Photon and I like it a lot but I love the physical keybaord. When my shift no longer loves me I'll likely be getting a Photon Q.
[EVO Shift 4G General] cmoG530:
I left the speedy for the Atrix and then to the galaxy nexus. For a little bit, I was likened to speedy, but I saw just how that device wasn't for me. It was getting ditched left and right from developers. No updates, I saw that it was too small, I disliked the processor and I saw that I didn't really need a physical keyboard after all. I liked its looks, but that's all it had. So, I had to leave. Came back through these forums to see if anything has progressed and well... I'm happy that I left. No knock to any of you, because we all have different preferences, but the speedy could have been made so much better than what it is.
[EVO Shift 4G General] mij9895:
I still have my Shift, but my primary phone has been the LG Viper since May. It just got an official update to ICS, and I'm loving it. But this phone sure wasn't built like the Shift was. I'm on my 2nd Viper due to defects in the first, and i think this one is bad too. Never had that happen on my Shift. Too bad the Evo LTE has so many problems connecting to LTE.

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You still have a Touch Pro 2? I always wanted one of those. They were the coolest keyboard phones in the old school phone arena.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Chad The Pathfinder:
I still have mine too. :D
[EVO Shift 4G General] trsix:
Whiner

John Ch3 "5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (KingJamesVersion)

Sounds like you made a bad buying decision.

When I invoke Him in my rituals, I unashamedly call Him the Master. And I do see myself as being subservient to Him; I refer to myself in my rituals as His "servant and friend." However, my subservience to the Dark Lord translates into spiritual subversity and personal liberty.
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
Not only do I still have it. It's still about mint :) . Say a 9 out of 10. Plus it's dual Boot. WinMo / Android :D . It was one of the koolest phones of the time IMO.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Apxiundns:
I've dual/multi-booted many a computer, but I haven't yet explored that with a phone. Are both systems fully operational (can make calls, text, access the internet)? And where/how did you find Windows Mobile drivers to make that work?

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Oh, and I'm staying with my HTC Evo Shift 4G (even though my area doesn't now or won't anytime in the near future have 4G). It's just the right size and weight for me, I have to have a phone with a physical keyboard, and it's a rugged little sucker. I just hope all you awesome, highly skilled developers stay with it just a bit longer.
[EVO Shift 4G General] bilgerryan:
The Touch Pro 2 was a Windows phone to start with. And I'll probably be with the Shift for another 6 months if it doesn't die on me before that.:D
[EVO Shift 4G General] mij9895:
Wow! That's awesome. I wish I could have gotten one, but never had the money to do so. :(

Fort Wayne is an active LTE build out market, but yet you are sticking with the Shift? Wow, talk about dedication.

(This is the current state of active LTE in your area, btw. Click here.)

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Nice!
[EVO Shift 4G General] bilgerryan:
Fort Wayne also still has Wimax;)
[EVO Shift 4G General] mij9895:
I didn't know that. Thanks.
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
They were back in the day when I was using it. But that was a years ago. The information to do it is still out there. Don't get me wrong it wasn't the fastest thing out there. But it was fun :D .
[EVO Shift 4G General] mij9895:
I'll be leaving the Viper for the Galaxy Nexus in the very near future. 2 Vipers, both defective. What a shame. I am only on my 2nd EVO Shift, lol. I don't plan on ever getting rid of it.
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
Yeah the Shift is a Beast :D . It was always highly underrated, it still is. I know quite a few people apart from the forum who have traded it in, then really regretted it. BTW like the Sig ;) .
[EVO Shift 4G General] konichwa:
Yup..I'm one of them. ;) I do like the screen but honestly.. I miss my QWERTY
[EVO Shift 4G General] konichwa:
I MIGHT BE BACK!!! HHahahahaaha ;)
[EVO Shift 4G General] YoungCorruptionV2.0:
Why is that?
[EVO Shift 4G General] konichwa:
because I can return my Galaxy S2 and get my Shift back if I want it ..thinking about it. ^_^
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
Use the Force, it will guide you ;) .
[EVO Shift 4G General] Chad The Pathfinder:
I was using the force last night with an experimental sense 4.0 and got to the boot screen! I'm need Yoda to get past bootloop though.
[EVO Shift 4G General] bilgerryan:
And get SD to mount
[EVO Shift 4G General] Chad The Pathfinder:
Yes Master.

:)

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I have been working on it. I thought by experimenting with http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1707177 as a potential guide for and ics sense 4.0 I was hopeing to learn more and possibly find a solution for the sd card and other issues. If I'm on the path to the Dark side by mistake, would some one please show me the right path?
[EVO Shift 4G General] bilgerryan:
The guide is for gingerbread, it says cm7 base:) astray you were lead
[EVO Shift 4G General] Aaargh!:
I left for the Photon Q and am pleased so far. Do miss the Shift and all the developers creating new roms, kernels, etc. You want to see a slow forum, check out the ones for the Photon
[EVO Shift 4G General] Chad The Pathfinder:
Yea I know but its been my expierence that you can use guides as a starting point and as you learn why something is in the guide you can then add your own creativity and come up with something cool. Or "Kool" as ob1-prboy might say.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Chad The Pathfinder:
FYI I got a sense 4.0 ROM to boot with this guide! It doesn't work right yet but Woot!

Edit: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1707177
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
Hellua nice :D .
[EVO Shift 4G General] Chad The Pathfinder:
It has a lot of the same issues as ICSense and One Shift so I doubt I'll work on it more but I learned some more about how to port sense. One step closer to mounting the sd card. :D Maybe... :rolleyes:
[EVO Shift 4G General] bilgerryan:
There are couple failed port attempts that I never got to work but I learned from them, I learn from every new ROM or port, some stuff still doesn't make sense to me tho, like JB killing the GPU on every port attempt.
[EVO Shift 4G General] JESUSARIUS REX:
hey guys, I'm eligible for an upgrade, and i have no idea what to do. i love my shift, but it is really starting fall behind. Im sticking with sprint, and ive been weighing these three options. Keep in mind I know for sure that it must have a lte quad core.

a. The LG Optimus G. i really like the hardware on this phone. and i also know that LG makes well built phones, considering my first phone ever was an lg and i pegged it on the concrete. still works today.:) what worries me is no SD card slot.

b. Galaxy note 2. Yes I know. Its a samsuck. But I'm a big tall person, and this phone would fit in my hand really well. I like the size ( always have trouble using my shift with my big fingers ) and SD card, and removable battery. Only problem is samsucks touch-urine and that it's hard for me to purchase a Samsung.

c. Wait for HTC to come out with a sprint one x+ equivalent. Like I said Im going lte quad core. I love sense and HTC'S build quality, but HTC said they weren't going to release any new devices until 2013, which means no holiday deals. My first smartphone was an HTC, so I have emotional ties to HTC as much as I do LG lol.

I just wanted to know others thoughts. its hard to leave the shift, and I have no idea what to choose.:( As of now, I'm leaning towards the LG, but I just wanted to know what some of the shift community members think.
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
Personally I'm going to wait. But if I was forced to, it would be the EVO LTE.
[EVO Shift 4G General] thronnos:
I'm upgrade eligible now but I am waiting. I have an Evo LTE as well. And it's a great device. Don't get me wrong. But 2 years is a long time with dual core and 1gig of ram when quad core and 2gigs are almost mainstream with top devices.

Shifted from a Zombie Wasteland
[EVO Shift 4G General] bilgerryan:
I'm looking at the Optimus G for when I upgrade, it may not have sd but if I remember correctly it comes with 22 gb of internal. And quad core and a 13mp camera, where can you go wrong with all that?
[EVO Shift 4G General] JESUSARIUS REX:
Actually 32. :) for me its not that I can't expand it. 32 is plenty. I'm just irritated because I spent good money on a class 10 16 GB sdcard lol.

That's the thing. The lte is a stellar device. It can run anything on Google play. But for how long, considering quad cores are becoming mainstream. I think HTC screwed themselves by not releasing a one x+ equivalent on sprint before the holidays.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Quetzalcoatl:
HTC ****ed up on the lte evo lol They underpowered it compared to other phones released around the same time. iirc people said it had trouble connecting to lte and keeping a connection
[EVO Shift 4G General] bilgerryan:
Keep it in your Shift ;) Or as an extra backup for data. Plus things should work a little more smoothly without an external sd. :)
[EVO Shift 4G General] JESUSARIUS REX:
ya i think ill do that. might pick one up next weekend

:).
[EVO Shift 4G General] rhodiggah:
COME TO THE DARKSIDE!!!! SGS3 :eek::D:cyclops:
[EVO Shift 4G General] Quetzalcoatl:
My friend has one....I'm jealous of the thinness and big screen.
[EVO Shift 4G General] JESUSARIUS REX:
I hate touchwiz. The only Samsungs I'd consider is a note or tab.
[EVO Shift 4G General] penroid:
Two years with the Shift and I'm still not getting rid of it.

I have just upgraded to the Motorola Photon Q with Sprint.

Sprint keeps texting me that I can get a cool $28.00 for my Shift but my beauty is in great shape and is worth more than that in alternative enjoyment.

Trying out more roms and just put on the CM10 Jelly Bean listed here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1993690
[EVO Shift 4G General] TarantinoAKASerge:
I just bought myself the Optimus G today.
[EVO Shift 4G General] bilgerryan:
What are your first impressions? I'm trying to get as much input from people who will use the device the same as me. It's probably gonna be my next phone, I just like to have feedback.
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
Have to tell you. I still love my Shift, always will. But the SGS3 is a The Freaking Beast Droid :D .
[EVO Shift 4G General] cmoG530:
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[EVO Shift 4G General] TarantinoAKASerge:
I really like the Optimus G, the speed and battery life are both amazing. The only downside is that this phone really doesn't have much development as of yet.
[EVO Shift 4G General] JESUSARIUS REX:
Pretty much
[EVO Shift 4G General] konichwa:
Well I'm still here..turns out the gs2 epic 4g touch worked best with a better ROM. Overall I'm pretty happy.. the latest Swype beta is nearly spot on. :)

Yeah..miss my shift from time to time though! U people's r awesome