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[Miscellaneous Android Development] alexbobspoons:
Another thing that has occurred to me that may be affecting this...

When I look at the nabi on the pc through the cable-link, I cant actually find the apps and the folders seem to add up to about 0.5GB rather than the 4GB they should do.

As a result, its likely that when I used the pc to copy across the data from the internal sd to the external sd, the apps probably didnt go across either.

Is there some special way of being able to see the apps on the pc, maybe some kind of hidden folder option??

This wouldnt really explain why nabi-store and goole-play are still installing to the tiny internal sd (regardless of which is showing as "internal" in the settings after external2internal app swaps) but I just thought it might shed some light on things.

Im not fussed about the internal2external app managing to stick at boot as I would be prepared to swap it manually each time. Its just that in swapping them, while they show swapped in settings, it doesnt actually seems to have done any benefit at all. Stuff still goes internal.

Is deleting the internal a crucial step and if-so, how do you go about that still managing to have all the stuff ported across to the external card?

Please help if possible

Thanks

Alex
[Miscellaneous Android Development] alexbobspoons:
Our Nabi2 has now decided not to even look like it is swapping the sd cards.

When I boot up it sees the internal card and the external(large) one.

I run the external2internal app ...... and then look in settings and both the internal and external card both appear as a 4gb card, almost like the external card dissapears and the internal one is cloned and fills both spots.

Bizzare

Im not sure if my sd card needs reformatting maybe.

Can I also ask, when trying the external2internal swap, how do others transfer all the stuff across from the internal card?? Do you use a pc and plug in the cable and just use explorer to drag and drop, or does that miss hidden bits?

Is it better instead to use something like titanium backup (which ive never used) to move everything over to the other card?

Is it then wise to use either pc and explorer.. or titanium backup.. to then delete all the stuff of the real internal sd card so that its only on the external (and thus the tablet cant mix em up)?

When I access the nabi2 through the pc cable, I dont think the "sdcard" location actually shows all the apps anywhere, I couldnt find them. This is making me think that the internal sd card stores the apps somewhere else within its partitioning, which may in turn be why they dont seem to want to go onto the external sd card when it is only swapping sdcard and sdcard2 (I dont really know, just clutching at straws really as we now have zero space and am running out of older apps to stealthily delete).

Thanks for any help.

Alex
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bait-Fish:
Having given up on Ext2Int, I can't help you much. You've read this thread as well, right? Just in case there's more info for you.

I must admit that using FolderMount feels a bit messy to me after a while now. Not the app, just how many linked pairs I've created to keep making space on the internal. Probably 15 now.

If the SD card isn't present on the links are off, either manually in-app or which seems to happen sometimes after the app updates, the apps will be broken. Their data since moved to SD, won't be present. Might be messy to restore. Better just to reinstall the app.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] alexbobspoons:
Hi thanks yes I saw that thread but couldnt find much to help me in there (maybe my newbie-ness).

Is folder-mount actually effective for small apps that dont have additional data be directed elsewhere? Can you simply redirect the main app? If so Id love to know your paths please and if I could do the same for our nabi2.

Interestingly, the external2internal app now has decided to "look" like it is working again as if all is well.... yet installing apps still seems to go to the small size.

I can only imagine that "sdcard" is not quite the proper path location for apps to install to?

Or maybe I need to reformat my external sd card in a different way, or maybe partition it?

Its so bizzare. The settings in "storage" tab can show the external sd pretending to be internal and showing 25GB of available space, yet if I go down a couple of clicks in settings to "apps" it lists all the installed apps and underneath says available space 400mb-ish (which seems to be the cut-off point for installing no more apps) its almost as if the tablet is not setup to install apps to "sdcard" and rather is installing to a different (possibly hidden) directory thus swapping sdcard and sdcard2 isnt having any affect on installing apps.

Keeping fingers crossed I can find a solution to it soon, desperately need the space.

Im still not fully sure if I copied all things to the sdcard2 properly by simply using explorer and the pc cable.

Thanks for your thoughts and help, appreciated :)

Alex
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bait-Fish:
Still meaning to put up a FolderMount how-to but time has gotten the better of me and I need to edit it more before posting.

FM will not move apps, unfortunately. Yes, that's the bulk of my space too. But, by using the app DiskUsage to view the internal sdcard, you can scout around and look for big data stores.

I have moved /DCIM (pictures from the camera), and various apps datas below /Android/data, /Android/obb, and /data. Not those folders outright, but sub or sub-sub-etc. folders for a particular app (depends).

Those are the easy ones. FM will move the data from the origin to the target. The trickier finds are in / (root), like /data/data. . . FM cannot move root files so you'd have to do that yourself with Root Explorer, ES File, Astro, or similar root file browser. The process is similar, use DiskUsage to find the data, set you linked pairing in FM, then let it or move your files manually like I just explained.

The free version of FM allows you 3 pairs. An in-app purchase to premium allows unlimited and also shows folder sizes as you are seeing your paths.

Already having Int2Ext running on your Nabi might make it more difficult. I am not sure if the two would interact together well. Just guessing.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] atriad:
I have a support question. I've received a nabi back from repair. The screen touch calibration is waaaay off. To the point the main 3 buttons (back, home, menu) are impossible to use. I can't get into "daddy" mode, I can't run recovery. I don't believe USB Debugging is turned on, but I can't check as I can't get to option.

Am I screwed?

-- Update

I've been able to turn on USB Debugging by flipping the tablet around so I can type individual letters. The touch screen is still way off. Any way to calibrate it? Or should I just turn to stock and send it back out? The recommended Vol + and PWR recommended on Fuhu's website does nothing for me.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] alexbobspoons:
Thanks Bait-fish Ill look out for your how-to when you get some time, Im sure many would be grateful.

I had a dabble with disk usage but not sure if im looking in the right location and also it seems most of the stuff I found was apk files, not much cache or data so it may be the FM wont help me if I cant move apk files.

I cant help thinking that although many have problems with ex2int the fact that some have apparently got it working makes me think maybe its delicate on the settings so maybe we just need a really comprehensive how-to guide by somebody who got that working confirmed successful, however Im not sure if that applies to any of the guide writers here.

If ext2int worked properly for me it would solve everything.

Fingers crossed for a solution soon as I still try and tactfully delete apps I think my son wont miss.

Thanks again Bait-fish

Alex
[Miscellaneous Android Development] alexbobspoons:
I had another look with disk-usage

When opened it seems to have three choices of location (which sometimes goes down to 2)

These being:

apps storage

sdcard (or internal storage, cant remember without seeing tablet and Im at work)

external storage (or sdcard2)

So Im wondering if the apps storage is a different location and not actually strictly speaking the sdcard. It would explain why the settings show "storage" as internal storage 24GB free space yet under the "apps" tab it shows "internal storage" as about 500mb

Does that make any sense at all? Maybe apps stored somewhere slightly different to the assumed "sdcard" location (thus swapping sdcard and sdcard2 having no affect)

Any ideas please?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bait-Fish:
DiskUsage is said to show actual space and usage, versus in Androids settings, storage. That one gets confused... or something to that effect, when we change the links, pairs, etc. Please pardon my terminology but I'm learning too.

Yes, DiskUsage will show /sdcard (= mnt/sdcard = internal). Also the external. And, it will also have an option to dig into the root folders. After I use FolderMount to link pairs of folders, those pairs also show in DiskUsage's list.

Because you are using Ext2Int, maybe that is causing thing to look different in DiskUsage for you from time to time.?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] alexbobspoons:
Hmm possibly yes ext2int is maybe muddying the water.

The fact that it still doesnt seem to give me an idea on where my ext-sdcard space is kinda worries me.

I just get the idea that despite whats shown in settings, ext2int may be doing nothing at all, in which case I either used it wrong, or it doesnt work and thus I am stuffed without being able to expand the memory.

Whats the likelihood of the clever techies out here being able to break this aspect of the Nabi2 to be able to get apps on the extsd? So many phones seem to have done it with apps available installing or moving the apps to sd.

Im worried that this has had time thrown at it by techies to no avail and is now sadly left, which is a problem for me.

Hopes it gets resolved

Thanks again for your help!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Waleslie:
gapps breaking external sd card mount?

Since the first Nabi 2 was working out well (updated, rooted, gapps, etc), I picked up a second Nabi 2 for my kids. I first allowed the tablet to update to 2.0.5. I then used Nabi Lab to install TWRP, root, and gapps. I self-modified NabiLab to install TWRP 2.5.0.0 instead of the default 2.3.3.0 it includes.

Everything seemed to go well, however a problem popped up with the external SD card. It seems that on first boot or reboot, the SD card isn't mounting. If I check settings -> storage, it shows no SD card. Only when I manually eject and re-insert the card does it show up.

I went back to stock and re-ran through the process. The tablet seemed to function normally through installing TWRP and root. Several reboots all immediately showed the presence of the external SD card. Once I flashed gapps through TWRP (this would be the version of gapps that came with NabiLab), the non-automatically mounting SD card problem showed up.

I am able to TWRP backup the first tablet and restore to the new tablet, which does not result in a problem with the SD card, but since that tablet has a lot of stuff / junk on it, I'd really prefer to do a clean install. Does anybody have any ideas?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] aicjofs:
I have mentioned before that it will likely have to be done at the ramdisk level, if it is going to work at all. I also said that I was going to work on it, but that hasn't happened because kids haven't had an issue. They have been on vacation for last month so I don't even have access to the Nabi's, plus I'm currently on vacation on the way to pick them up.

I get some weird stuff with my external sd card. Sometimes the Nabi see's 3 of the same folder on the external. Eject and reinsert and it's all normal. It seems you have it isolated to gapps, have you tried any out of the box ideas like a different sdcard, formatting the card, letting it boot after gapps with/without card installed, etc. It doesn't fit the logic from your description, but it's worth a try to see if we can get more information. 100's, if not 1000's have installed the same version of gapps and I don't think we have heard this particular issue. Obviously I'm not implying it's you, but rather trying to think what might be different about your system, ie. Sdcard model. I'm on vacation so I don't even have access to a Nabi to try anything.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] alexbobspoons:
Aicjofs I am already deeply in debt to you for your invaluable help when my sons nabi2 died with backup problems you are a star. If you are also able to help with the issue of the ad card then wow you will be very much a superhero.

My thanks for your help thus far and my huge thanks for your future intentions also.

I understand that it may not be possible to fix the issue but it doesn't take away from your kind efforts.

Fingers crossed for success and again my thanks for even trying.

Alex
[Miscellaneous Android Development] justinglock40:
Play Store for NAbi Jr.

Is there any way to get this working on the Jr?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] n3wt:
You can read through this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2182901
[Miscellaneous Android Development] kcallis:
Custom ROM

I have become tired of the stock rom. Does anyone know of any other ROM besides the rooted stock rom?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] aicjofs:
There have been failed attempts of hacking a custom rom together. The Nabi2 source code is out there, no one has went down that road yet.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Waleslie:
Non-auto-mounting SD card chaos

Okay... Here's where I stand. My son has been using the first Nabi 2 that I bought (Amazon back on Black Friday). It has gone well. I had purchased a second Nabi 2 for my daughter (this time from Target). It updated and rooted well but the speaker was really scratchy, so I TWRP backed it up, restored it to stock, and exchanged it. The new tablet, restored from the backup has this weird non-automatically mounting SD card issue. On most reboots, the memory card is not seen unless I manually eject and reinsert it. This is a real pain in the butt... and means that FolderMount doesn't really work.

Both tablets have the same Patriot Memory 16GB memory card. I've swapped them back and forth. Always works fine on his tablet, never works out on hers.

On the hunch that there was a hardware glitch, I went to a different Target and bought a third one. This one behaves just like the second one. So I don't know, perhaps it's a hardware glitch on a batch that was shipped to Target in general (and then distributed to the local stores).

Just to muddy the waters... I backed up his tablet and restored it to the newest third tablet. The card mounting problem seemed to go away (at least for the 2 or 3 reboots I did). So I figured I would uninstall all of his apps and then use Titanium Backup to restore all of her apps. After uninstalling his apps... the card mounting problem showed up again. So this has me totally confused. Maybe it's an intermittent hardware problem. Although it never seems to show up prior to rooting and adding gapps.

One last piece of info... When the tablet is having the auto-mounting issue, it seems to apply to TWRP as well. I'll have to eject and reinsert the card and un-mount and re-mount the ext sd card under the Mount menu.

The one thing I haven't tried is installing her backup on his tablet. I'm leery of messing up the one smoothly running tablet I've got. I just can't get a solid read on whether this is a software problem or a hardware problem, although it seems more likely to be hardware issue, but then again it never seems to show up prior to rooting and adding gapps.

Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

Could someone make available a TWRP 2.5.0.0 backup of a stock, rooted v2.0.5 ROM with gapps installed (obviously check that the SD card is automatically mounting first)?

Hmmm.... could TWRP 2.5.0.0 be somehow causing this problem?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] kcallis:
Thanks for the info. Ok, at the very least is there anyway to make use of app2sd, so I can give my boy a little more breathing room?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] shane1:
i have a friend that ports roms for the moto hd devices and he said the nabi 2 is on github but has no vendor and according to him ( which hes good at what he does) means without a vendor roms cant be ported to the nabi 2
[Miscellaneous Android Development] aicjofs:
What I am getting from everyones issue is that all these methods people are using are only putting a portion of the app on the external, but still some on internal which is still chewing through space? or for others just not working reliably at all?

http://www.nabitablet.com/support/source-code

The dates look like that of original build, so whatever that was 1.9.23 or .16 I forget. I looked through it and thought that there was enough to work with, it's just old code. Never tried to build it though.

What does he mean? The vendor specific files? i.e. wireless firmware, some proprietor tegra bins/libs, camera, etc?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] shane1:
a vendor setup file on github. someone would have to build it. im not sure exactly what it is but not the one in the nabi system. im pretty sure you could still build a rom but it would have to be stock based from what i understand. nothing aosp. next time i talk to my friend ill try to get more details but thats the basics
[Miscellaneous Android Development] phreaq:
Does this work on the NABI-A, or Nabi 1? I have the original Nabi (not the jr), and couldn't find anything in the search,

thanks!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] n3wt:
Very probable that it would not. But check out this link:

http://nabitabletgroup.freeforums.org/rooting-the-nabi-tablet-t16.html
[Miscellaneous Android Development] aicjofs:
Any alpha testers feel free to try this different look for NabiLab

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=44258583#post44258583
[Miscellaneous Android Development] JuniorBevins:
Hello all,

I know it's a little old but I just found this and it worked on the Nabi 2. But you have to jump through a few hoops.

* I did have problems with the drivers, maybe because of my S3 Drivers being on there, but installing PDANet fixed it.

*The script also did not install gapps properly, it pushed it to the device...but it didn't install (I got the not found on e:/sdcard/ message). What you do is just use twrp to install it. Works like a charm then.

Good work! Thank you :)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Lost Dog:
Is the lack of USB charging on the NABI 2 a function of the hardware or the options not being compiled in the kernel?

I'm familiar with compiling my own kernel on my Linux Mint desktop however I've never tried to cross compile for an android device. I've downloaded the source code from the NABI support site and was able to "make xconfig" and browse through the 3.1.10 kernel option however I have no idea what to look for on the USB charging side of things.

Has anyone poked around with this? I'd love to get normal USB charging going as the small tipped charger got bent and is a pain to get positioned perfectly to charge.

Thanks!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] aicjofs:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2024105&highlight=nabi+teardown

Here is the Nabi 2 teardown. It's not connected. I think on one of the later pages we discussed what was necessary to do, but it's hardware based discussion.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Lost Dog:
Thanks! That's too bad it's a hardware mod. Still, there seems to be plenty of room in there to play with if a charging hardware package was needed.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] btate0121:
Has anyone built a rom with the Nabi bits stripped out? Given that 4.3 has kid friendly accounts now, this Nabi stuff is completely unnecessary for us. Rather than spend another $500 on tablets for my kids (nexus 7) i'd rather try a root and run on the Nabi.

Thanks in advance.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] knoxploration:
Would love to get 4.3 on there myself, as well, but there seems to be relatively little development for Nabi sadly.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bait-Fish:
Recently, madmack, the author of FolderMount posted,

I'm not sure what that means for other tricks and methods to make up for low internal storage like our Nabis have, but it tempers my enthusiasm for 4.3. Or, at least later revisions of it that may break our tweaks.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] btate0121:
Realistically... I'm not concerned with the future updates. Neither are my kids. LOL. What's getting tiresome is dealing with 8gb of storage and a bloated OS. If I can get them on 4.3 then Im happy until its time to replace the device. Definitely not buying Nabi next time. Definitely.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] gpshemi:
I'm not buying another nabi either. The value isnt there. No play store. Limited processor. Limited memory. Overly expensive accessories. I've ultimately decided for the money there are better solutions than a nabi...
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Eric Karz:
i thought nabi was good up till i see there are no XD OTA updates with the 3d screens software they showed in January 2013 .

(no dates-same ole "they are working on it ,soon, blabla)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] btate0121:
If I weren't so lazy and were a little smarter id make porting 4.3 a weekend project... smh. If I knew then what I know now. The navigation stuff is a HASSLE.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] gpshemi:
Now that I've owned two Nabi 1's, one of which failed and Nabi replaced, and now two Nabi 2's, I've decided they're overpriced china tablets with a cheap OS overlay. I think they should just market the software and forget the hardware.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] btate0121:
You have the right idea there. I was attracted to it because I thought of it as a kid proof nexus 7. My nexus has held up waaaaaaaaaaay better than the nabis have. We've had broken chargers, broken charge ports, crashes, lags, dealing with that sorry amazon app store.

Im done. Just give me a solid 4.3 device. I'd take an old tablet off of craigslist with a hacked port.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] gpshemi:
We had the same issues...countless chargers they replaced with countless phone calls, busted charge port that they ended up replacing the tablet for, no play store till you risk a root per their suggestion. Bought colored bumpers for the Nabi 1's...then they replaced with red Nabi 2's...so I got screwed out of the bumpers. The Nabi 2's have this screwed up uncomfortable checkered back...the whole thing is just screwy and poorly planned.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] btate0121:
I completely forgot about that dreaded checkered back thing.... whose silly idea was THAT. LOL. It sucks that they took your bumpers. Im starting to hate those things more. Lol. Before I could tolerate them... but now?!? LOL
[Miscellaneous Android Development] knoxploration:
I would put money on the checkered backplate being an intentional decision intended to prevent adults buying the subsidized hardware for themselves and then not using the Nabi stuff that tries to upsell junk to your kids.

To whomever said Fuhu should leave the hardware and just do software, I couldn't disagree more. The hardware (other than the rear of the case) is superb. My 4.5 year old hasn't put a single mark on it, everything works perfectly, and I couldn't be happier with it. But the stock software is godawful. It exists solely to try and have your kids nag you into buying them this, that, or the other.

The only thing I want to change about this tablet is to get all the Nabi stuff off it permanently, and get a stock Google experience on 4.3.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] aicjofs:
I'm pretty sure Keenhi does the hardware and android portion, and I think that's where the breakdown on the software front begins. Does Fuhu have to pay for updates?

http://www.keenhi.com/en/aboutus.aspx?id=200
[Miscellaneous Android Development] jmz:
oldest is fine
[Miscellaneous Android Development] DZLRULZ:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91720297/system.ext4.win