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[Motorola Atrix HD] orangeisnon:
I don't even use the Atrix anymore. The SD card tray died, so I switched. The last time I used the gold battery I was halfway across the country and needed my phone, and the Chinese gold battery only lasted a few minutes longer than the EB20. I switched back to the 40 and haven't gone back.

Shiggy diggy
[Motorola Atrix HD] jjmai:
It actually fits? Any bulge in the case?
[Motorola Atrix HD] LobotomyTH:
Not one that's terribly noticeable.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
Hi guys

I bought a EB40 battery to do the mod.

I had no issues replacing it until I tried to turn on the phone. I had the charger connected, green LED light on, but the phone just turned on until the M Logo. Then, it shuts off and do the same again. It's like a loop in the M logo. I put the EB20 back and it worked good.

So, my question is, am I missing something or my EB40 doesn't work?

Thanks!
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Did u try and full charge first?
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
I can't, because the phone turns on by itself. Like, when it shows you the battery image charging. Only that it doesn't even get there, it gets stuck on the M logo.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Sounds like the battery has a dead cell or its just not compatible
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
This is my battery. Is the right one?
[Motorola Atrix HD] pijes:
yes that is the correct one. does the back of the phone feels warm when its in boot loop? do you see any slight expansion or bulge on the battery?
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
Nope, everything seems normal. I even let it "charging" for a few minutes but didn't noticed any difference. I will go to change the battery on Sunday, let's see if it works then.
[Motorola Atrix HD] samks1:
Onite 3400mAh

Just put in a Onite eb40 3400mAh battery from amazon $23. Working once I get it calibrated. I had to cut of course and I am surprised the back cover fits. I can't get my otterbox defender to line up with the buttons now. The rubber was worn in places to begin with, so I guess it's time to buy a new case.

EB20

2.226W 3.7500L 0.113Thk

31g

Onite EB40

2.2565W 3.6905L 0.1675Thk

54g
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
So, I finally changed the battery and made the mod. My Ballistic case no longer fits :( You can easily tell that there is something different on the phone because there is a bump and some specific places don't seal that good. I hope it is worth it. Will use it today and tomorrow and report back.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Aingaran:
Problems

Im using EB40 mod for few days and my lcd cracked surprisingly, i placed it down, and when i took it up i saw a crack in lcd. it started from the bottom screw. Is there any possiblity that this could be due to EB40 , because it packes the phone tightly.
[Motorola Atrix HD] philipmathieu:
Lost the screws

As the title suggests, I lost the two battery screws in the midst of the replacement. Anybody know if replacements are out there? I know they are T5 heads.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Buy a replacement junk unit and take the screws from there
[Motorola Atrix HD] pijes:
more than 6 months with EB40 then this happened
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
*EDIT - THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN EVERY CASE AND IMPLYING THAT IT DOES IS THE SAME AS FALSE ADVERTISING
[Motorola Atrix HD] pijes:
I'm not saying it would happen to every EB40 mod, just sharing that it happened to mine.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mm166:
Mine Atrix is same way for a long time. Because of that I started to use case.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
edited out by self censure.

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As for the topic, I admit I did not read this whole thread yet but I also want to say that just a day or two after I did the mod, two of the back lid's little plastic notches broke due to the extra battery thickness.

Can't show a picture right now, but I now have a ~1mm crack on the side of my phone - all the way from power button down to the bottom corner.

[emoji31]

It sucks because I love the new power reserve, but I don't really see how I could avoid this happening again if I buy a new back cover...

For the person with cracked screen, my bet is that it is probably a battery mod side-effect in the sense that: how tight did you go on those back screws? You might have put too much tork and somehow put stress on the motherboard/lcd. But that's just a guess...
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Apart from how common/uncommon this issue may be, it does reveal a potential failing point that I'd not considered before. Thanks.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53078481
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Well, I'd like to share something more on my experience with the battery swap and it's not a really fun one...

As mentioned earlier, after the change, all the little plastic extrusions on one side of the lid broke off due probably a combination of me snapping the lid in place either inappropriately or too frequently and/or the fact that my lid was not in perfect shape to begin with since I bought this phone as an "almost" new state.

I have yet to get a replacement lid, but the engineer in me feels like I might buy this for nothing and that same could very well happen again because that 3400mAh battery is very thick.

But what I really want to add is that whatever you do, be very careful not to damage the plastic bolted on frame that the lid snaps onto. I say this because following my "lid pop off" and thinking that I had nothing to lose damaging the soon to be replaced lid, I've tried to do some hot knife plastic soldering to try to make it snap in place.

Unfortunately, that didn't go to well and I've kept using the phone with one side of the lid being wide open. Well that (inducing some rubbing because of me constantly trying to pry/close the side gap) and my plastic molding experiments made what appears to be some thin metal lining just under the surface of that frame start showing up through. I suspect that what this is some sort of in bedded contacts/antenna(s) . Bottom line is that my phone is now f'd up and I lost my GPS. Not only that, my wifi reception is now roughly half was it used to be; 20 feet away in straight view of the router gives me only one or two bars....

So, I'd like to be proven wrong on this, but I've pretty much tried anything software related to fix these issues without any luck. My next line of action will be to try to find such a plastic frame to buy and see if it fixes all that. But who knows how hard is gonna be to find that part...

I just love the extra power; no doubt about that! It's just awesome to no longer need to worry about constant low power, but if I knew that all this would happen, I'd probably have stayed clear of the swap in the first place or at least, been more careful and wait for a new lid before using the phone with this battery.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Tim3tripp3r:
Al, eBay has a pretty constantly changing supply of all the parts you might need to fix your current dilemma.

They aren't to badly priced either IMO.

Sounds like the mid frame or the back unit that clips on to the mid frame.

Good luck :)
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
No worries, I live in cheap smartphone (parts) wonderland...

I should be able to get this at a fraction of ebay's prices. I just wasn't aware before this ordeal that there were antenna in that frame...

But that will have to wait for a bit; Chinese New Year eve tomorrow and I will be away for a week...

My phone's GPS would have been very helpful tonight though....

[emoji34]

Thanks
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Indeed. The circumference of that secondary frame piece is almost entirely covered with antenna components that look like black electrical tape and are barley noticeable on the black plastic frame. The antennae have bits that fold around the secondary frame toward the front of the phone and make contact with the main boards somewhere in there. This manual describes in nice detail what each part is (and saved me from further damaging the particularly fragile LTE antenna component around the speaker).

http://www.techinsights.com/uploade...2013/techinsights-motorola-atrix-hd-mb886.pdf
[Motorola Atrix HD] AtrixHDMan:
Top this and the battery still isn't dead.
[Motorola Atrix HD] michael8s:
Can somebody suggest me a good case which will fit Atrix HD with a EB40 battery?
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Most cases should work. Mine is in an otterbox with the mod
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Mine (my 2nd extended battery btw) is with the original back cover which had the "kevlar" [not too sure it is in fact kevlar] that separated from the cover surrounding [the whole way] on one side. I did a little bit of shimming, super glueing and rough edge buffing and it's all good!

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[Motorola Atrix HD] michael8s:
I think I will have to buy the third one. The problem is that with EB40 battery, the back cover doesn't fit tightly, so when a phone accidentally falls, battery moves a bit and breaks the battery connector (has already happened to me twice).

Although, a tight case or glueing will probably solve the problem.

btw, is it possible to somehow fix a broken connector?

If yes, it will be possible to stick two batteries together and by connecting connectors get even more battery life.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
I know what you're talking about. That has been an issue for me the past few months. The EB40 should have an adhesive on the back of it. I always never took of the cover to this adhesive, but since using this adhesive (installed in July) I have had no issues. By using the adhesive, you eliminate the risk of breaking the connector.

As to the fixing, afaik there is no repairing. Not sure if anyone has tried to use 2 batteries. You might be able to do it, but you would probably have to jumper the gold connectors together (middle of the connection cable) since it does make contact with the board (left side to left side, right side to right side). Its questionable if it will work, but you'd also have to remember that you'd need some kind of modified backing to make it work.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Yep, as I mentioned previously I believe, my first EB40's cable also got damaged one day I was out for a bike ride... I had the adhesive on, but it had been reused and in time lost its grip. I was using only a soft silicon gel case only (no original back cover, so it didn't surprise me that the tape eventuality failed.

I wouldn't try to fix the ribbon myself, but try to find a demo video maybe and see hiw risky it is to play inside a battery... Don't take chances though: protect your eyes and wear safety eyewear if you risk anything.

I wouldn't try 2 batteries in parallel either: it might work, but I don't how the charging would go and how can anyone can carry such a brick around... And really, batteries are never something I would want to mess with anyway (and see explode - stick to the protocol

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Lastly, if you still have the original back cover and don't plan on using it again, you might want to try and see if you can do like I did and let (or help it) tear on one side then do some handcraft work. I did mine quickly and it not the best looking job, but I think that once the shimming/glueing/buffing is done, no other case will beat it...
[Motorola Atrix HD] mega_man:
hi guys i installed the eb40 battery in my atrix hd but its showing ? mark icon in the battery place and my phone wont charge any help
[Motorola Atrix HD] Dark9781:
That means either you didn't connect the battery properly, the battery is bad, or you broke one of the connectors.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mega_man:
i restarted the phone and it got fixed
[Motorola Atrix HD] gzrecoil:
Sigh. I REALLY want to do this, but a little back story how I got this phone.

I sent my Atrix 4G in for repair 5 times, and spent well over 20 hours on the phone and around 3 total weeks without a phone. After much negotiations and pushing, they offered the HD instead of the two.

However, this will void my warranty, and since I had to send my 4G in 5 times, I am hesitant to make this mod and cancel my warranty :/
[Motorola Atrix HD] deeje00:
There's pretty much no risk involved as long as your careful. It's very easy. But nice move convincing them to upgrade you like that lol.

Sent from my MB886
[Motorola Atrix HD] gzrecoil:
I'm not worried about the risk of doing the mod, I am worrying about the phone crapping out.

My digitizer went three times, along with that my bluetooth & wifi radio broke twice, as well as a few other miscellaneous issues...

Those are the things I'm worried about, and if any of those happen again, I assume Motorola won't help me if I slit a piece out of the back of my phone.
[Motorola Atrix HD] shanghei:
Well for the money, (and after this mod) I agree. I see them go for under 250 on ebay.

---------- Post added at 05:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:38 PM ----------

Anyone mind telling me where everyone is ordering their EB40 ?
[Motorola Atrix HD] fromanbr:
amazon! look for cellphone repair shop seller!
[Motorola Atrix HD] shanghei:
Since this is causing a bit of a bump on the kevlar, there must be some pressure on the joints that snap the back case closed on the phone, over time couldnt the phones case easily pop off at a slight bump or so? Sort of like a fat man putting on small pants and all that pressure on the button.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Av8tor86:
I dont believe so. I use an otterbox commuter case and it fits so tight that there's no way the back is coming off. Even an inexpensive plastic or rubber case would keep that from happening, but again i doubt it would happen anyway.

sent from my Atrix HD MAXX
[Motorola Atrix HD] deeje00:
I had to cut the rubber in my commuter for it to fit.

Sent from my MB886
[Motorola Atrix HD] shanghei:
I dont use any case
[Motorola Atrix HD] shanghei:
Wonder what was the reasoning of not putting this battery in the phone in the first place, seeing how it can fit into place so easily. Atrix HD may have had more success.
[Motorola Atrix HD] SirHoover2010:
Yes but do you have to cut into the phone at all to make it fit or is it as easy as opening the phone, changing them oht and closing it back?
[Motorola Atrix HD] deeje00:
Have you read back any of the previous pages? You can come some plastic or you can not. It'll work either way. Would have been smart to include it to begin with but it would have in the original razr also.

Sent from my MB886
[Motorola Atrix HD] JoelChanning:
Is a T5 screwdriver needed for the battery swap?

And in the video, it shows a thin plastic tool to pry open the back-case - are there any common household items that can do this okay?
[Motorola Atrix HD] deeje00:
T5 is what is needed. And just anything that's a hard plastic you can pry with will work.

Sent from my MB886
[Motorola Atrix HD] JoelChanning:
thanks.

the video shows like the space is fairly tight. looks like it requires a very thin plastic? (seen some cell phone pry tools and they look like they'd be too thick)

ADD: found a good cheap T5 driver on ebay including a thin pry-er
[Motorola Atrix HD] mandrsn1:
I just used the side of my thumbnail
[Motorola Atrix HD] SirHoover2010:
Yea i did and found no concrete answers
[Motorola Atrix HD] smogtdi:
Tu ouvre le téléphone avec un pick de guitare , tu utilise le tournevis T5 pour retirer le connecteur de batterie, tu retire la batterie, en utilisant la nouvelle batterie, tu marque où tu devras couper, tu coupes et enfin tu ré-assemble le tout.

it's as simple as that.
[Motorola Atrix HD] deeje00:
I bought a kit on Amazon 5 bucks.

Sent from my MB886
[Motorola Atrix HD] JoelChanning:
SNN5910, SNN5910A, SNN5910B

which is the most advantageous model?

As foir cutting, from the posts already it sounds as if:

1. cutting is not necessary

2. cutting will make a more-natural fit

3. there will be a slight bulge once reassembled. If cutting is done, the buldge will be less.

...Are these right?

-at the top of the page, next to all the page number buttons, there is a search box "Search this thread"

-type "cut" into the box and hit Enter.

snip[pets from a few of the results:

Got mine for 42 with 2 day shipping. No cutting necessary. Sent from my MB886

I bought my battery from accessorymallonline. I didn't have to cut anything on my device. Just a little hard pushing under the plastic. There is a slight bulge in the case, but imo it feels nicer in the hand.

… the "where do I cut" questions. I have drawn … show where (not exactly) I cut to make the battery fit … and make sure you don't cut too far towards the top …

Well I "practiced" cutting the extra plastic and....the speaker is now fully functional -sigh- I guess I was just unlucky that it didn't work the other way, but at least I know what was causing my speaker to not stay connected now.

I just laid the bottom of the battery in the spot where it goes and used a razor knife to scor the plastic at the top. Then I removed it and carefully cut along the scored line. Sent from my Motorola Atrix HD MAXX That is how i did it as well

I didn't remove any screws but the battery ones. Cut the plastic where the white sticker is and fit the battery in that way. Sent from my Motorola Atrix HD MAXX

My battery came today. The swap took about 20 minutes (there was more cutting of plastic required than I expected). My phone is now charging. The battery adds way less thickness than I expected.
[Motorola Atrix HD] tiguy99:
Looking to join the ranks! Great write up
[Motorola Atrix HD] Fat Rat Bastard:
Thanx for the info on the Defender!

Thanx for the info on the Defender! I'm religious about using cases, and have been using Otterbox Defenders or Commuters since my iPhone 2g in '07. I only switched to a Commuter for my Atrix 4g as it was easier to get out of the case and insert into the dock as the dock connectors weren't long enough.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Neroga:
I did end up cutting the plastic, though. Got tired of having to hit the back of the phone here and there to get the speakers working. Didn't wanna put the screws in too tight in fear of damaging the phone. Exceptionally great battery life with the EB40. Especially underclocked @ 1.35GHz with the Powersave governor. Powersave makes the phone really sluggish, though. Even at 1.5GHz. Seems like interactive is good for balance between battery life and performance.

Sent from my Motorola Atrix HD MAXX
[Motorola Atrix HD] heifeif:
Wonder if no one with the mod can post sharp pics from the side (some angles)??

The only pics postet arent really expressive with bad quality imo!

Except the small bulk...would be interesting to see the cap of the SD/Sim-Card cover....

Dont get me wrong...the battery-mod is the best mod ever for this phone, but i love the goood build qual. of the phone too....and will not destroy this..
[Motorola Atrix HD] deeje00:
Well the there's about a millimeter gap over the sim door after the mod so it definitely looses its water resistance ability.

Sent from my Atrix HD MAXX
[Motorola Atrix HD] heifeif:
piiiiiiiicccccccsss???:confused::confused::confused:
[Motorola Atrix HD] vesoganev:
i just put the eb40 in. didnt have to cut anything, just pushed it under the plastic until the other side aligns with the battery bay, then used a small screqdriver to adjust the battery cable to the screw holes.

First impressions?

Everyone asking for a picture before/after.. well, you cant see the difference. But you can definetly feel it with.your fingers. there is a well pronounced edge around the eb40 once you snap the cover back on. If you put a case on it than you can see it, as the case will look misaligned.

I am using Incipio Silycrilic with the Atrix and i get these credit card thickness sized gaps between the silicone sleeve and the hard cover.

The cover feels securely snaped, it doesn't seem like its going to pop up any second.

My biggest problem is the gap between the sim/microsd door and the back cover. its again about a credit card thickness wide (checked with a credit card :)) I am planing on using a battery mounting adhesive sticker just for this spot if it keeps to annoy me, but will try to live with it for now, as i dont want to take the cover again and risk ugly bending or.broken snaps

I am attaching some pictures of the gaps. sorry for the quality, but the only camera i have is the htc flyer and it is not that good
[Motorola Atrix HD] shanghei:
Anyone not experience sim card bulge?
[Motorola Atrix HD] deeje00:
Not unless you glue that side down. The battery is right there.

Sent from my Atrix HD MAXX
[Motorola Atrix HD] heifeif:
I´m def. waiting if someone finds out wich battery is in the Razr HD and if it fits...

The bulg and gap at the sim cover with the EB40 is little to much...(just for me ;) )
[Motorola Atrix HD] baberswallet:
I am gonna have to agree with you on this one, everyone on here was like works great cant notice it then I see people just now mentioning sim card bulge and speakers not working and none of them can afford a camera.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Neroga:
A useless bashing post isn't necessary. You won't notice a difference in the phone's look with the EB40 or EB20 unless you know what you're looking for. If you don't cut the plastic you put a lot of pressure on the top of the battery and may have problems with the speakers not connecting. Cut the plastic up until the full battery is exposed. The previously posted pictures give MORE than enough detail on what needs to be done. If you're worried about messing something up or simply can't comprehend what you need to do then don't do it and stop posting meaningless and unhelpful posts.

Sent from my Motorola Atrix HD MAXX
[Motorola Atrix HD] deeje00:
It took me a good 15 minutes of struggling to get the case back on so excuse me I don't feel like removing it to take a picture of what the mod looks like. It's a minor gap you can tell the above pictures. As for the speaker not working as was said above me just cut the plastic away and there will be no issue. I did no cutting and mine works fine but to each there own.

Sent from my Atrix HD MAXX
[Motorola Atrix HD] Av8tor86:
I just checked. I have a small gap above the Sim card slot. My phone has been in an otterbox commuter since the day I did the Mod and honestly I can't see it so I don't care. Don't do the mod, and don't post in our thread if you aren't going to contribute something for the good of the group.

Sent from my Atrix HD MAXX
[Motorola Atrix HD] deeje00:
Does your commuter line up on the bottom? Mine doesn't.

Sent from my Atrix HD MAXX
[Motorola Atrix HD] Av8tor86:
Not really. There is a very small gap along the back at the bottom.

Sent from my Atrix HD MAXX
[Motorola Atrix HD] spaman49:
I am getting my battery this week and was wondering if there is anything i need to do to calibrate the battery life indicator. I read an earlier post that mentioned a full charge to no charge cycle. Is that correct or does anything need to be done?
[Motorola Atrix HD] davidjames4:
I would root your phone and use a battery calibration app available in the play store
[Motorola Atrix HD] deeje00:
I cut the rubber out above the battery and it still doesn't. But this case didn't really line up nice to begin with.

As for battery calibration I just put the battery in left the phone off and charged to 100 and it works fine.

Sent from my Atrix HD MAXX
[Motorola Atrix HD] Dark9781:
I am now the proud owner of an Atrix HD Maxx. Just got my battery and installed. Took about 5 minutes to do and no cutting nessecary. Just had to push the battery all the way down. The extra weight feels nice and there is a little bulge, but nothing really too noticeable or odd. Can't wait to get this fully charged to test how long this battery will last. Thanks smogtdi for discovering and testing this mod.
[Motorola Atrix HD] SirHoover2010:
Let us know if any sound issues occur
[Motorola Atrix HD] Dark9781:
I'll keep everyone informed. I checked the sound before putting the cover back on and there were no issues. So far the speaker is working as normal.
[Motorola Atrix HD] smogtdi:
sorry but I wasn,t the first. I only opened a tread specifc to th mod.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Dark9781:
So I found out this morning my speaker stopped working. Guess cutting the rubber is the way to go. Bringing my phone to the local store to replace it.