yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stefan863:
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I think I ruined the usb port inside my phone :(, It doesn't connect to my computer anymore and when i charge it, It sais that I am connected with a USB...
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stefan863:
to be honest with you to I have no idea, but because i rooted my phone I can't do updates anymore :(
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sun90:
i asked u a simple question ' is ur phone booting normally with that custom rom or not', hope u understand simple english if so answer the same:)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stefan863:
Ohhh sorry. Yes, but with the Yellow Triangle
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sun90:
dwnld 'Mobile Odin' from stores and u can flash stock firmware from ur phone itself:)
[HTC Incredible S] thakur90:
I feel its time to move on isnt it?

what do you guys think, the development rate has declined steadily and also there's hardly any developer left!

I guess by november its will be moved to legacy devices on XDA!!
[HTC Incredible S] ragz:
Hmm, jellybean roms, a new transformer promised, at least or 2 or 3 excellent developers rumours of viper mod, yeah nothing left here, bye..
[HTC Incredible S] djbenny1:
this thread is 10 seconds of my life i wont get back
[HTC Incredible S] WILLI120:
Don't forget about Desire X port;) That'll be my favorite:)
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
If someone can extract the ROM.zip from it lol

I guess this is where the senior members step up :)

Like what's happening now, people new to deving are releasing stuff

We learn a lot from xda, a year ago I would not have thought I would be in the possession on a new device ruu trying to port it :)

our device isn't dead, its just starting to show its age. I am here until may next year haha

Sent from my Nexus 7
[HTC Incredible S] WILLI120:
Would also love to try but I'm too busy right now to do anything... school, drivers licence, more school and also I just bought FIFA 13 yesterday:D This stuff keeps me away from being more active on xda, but I still do my part by making banners, sigs and stuff esp for Nik right now:) Good enough:D

Can't just some random dev rise up from us and port this Desire X ROM?:D Man you would be treated like Jesus! Or at least his little unknown brother:P
[HTC Incredible S] ahmadx:
why not to ask NIK for help

Hello,

Why you not simply ask Nik's help for porting the Desire X

if you don't have much time
[HTC Incredible S] WILLI120:
I'm not a dev but I just would have given it a try if I had the time... Nik is actually busy by PX Transformer. Also his first One X ROM. And of course he has a life, too with personal stuff and he even goes to Milan soon;) So he has got enough work by now. And I guess he still didn't got his new IncS from our hero fjordell (sry if written wrong:P) since shipping can take time.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThatsMajor:
I just bought a Nexus 7, and I'm looking for something sturdy that would hold up in a backpack or in my back pocket; any ideas? everything I see seems to be fairly soft
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adoq111:
Will be work USB OTG with classic micro usb cable, for example from charger + this connector which is USB-USB?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacKubeX123:
No.

I had got one of these for my Galaxy R hoping the same as you do, but it didn't work. Some information digging later I realized that you need a (micro in this case) USB connecter that makes the phone act as a host.

This dual connecter can only be used to extend a cable or something similar.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adoq111:
If I know, Galaxy R dont support USB OTG. Did you try it on your SGS3?
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Guys,

I'm releasing my own custom rom for the HTC Titan, because of requests.

Requirments:

HSPL

AT&T: radio 16

Euro: radio 17

Features:

-Windows Phone 7.8 (8835)

-Windows Phone 8 Startscreen

-Windows Mobile Device Center

-USB Video Out

-Bazaar 1.7

-Regedit

-Digital Power

-Search Key Remapper

-DFT Bluetooth File Transfer

-XAP Deployer

-All languages

-No font issue

Download:

v1.5*

http://www.mediafire.com/?z4dlr4m1u3ykuk1,8hd7go0i5ly87pz

v1.6

http://htcfanboys.com/download/sianto1997/?action=view&file=13900

Added all languages. (deleted langpack)

Added all the keyboards.

Sound Enhancer

Nokia collection (in marketplace)

v2.0

http://htcfanboys.com/download/sianto1997/?action=view&file=14418

* Because of my other roms.

THIS ROM IS TESTED WITH SUCCESS ON EURO HTC TITAN

Thanks to ultrashot! & dotcompt (Deepshining) & Heathcliff74

Pic of proof:
[HTC Titan] noelito:
Great! Can't wait to test when I get home!

---------- Post added at 06:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:55 PM ----------

Are Nokia camera extras installed and is the soft camera button present? And are all the Nokia ringtones included too?
[HTC Titan] Budniu:
What are languages in the ROM ? What exactly mean "Opitonal languages (LANGUAGEPACK)" ?
[HTC Titan] drupad2drupad:
Thanks for sharing!

Is this based on DFT or Stock?

Also is it another Nokia hybrid? If yes, can HTC apps be removed and not come on restart?

Plus another question, for TellMe, what packages have you used?

Screenshots?
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
It comes with all the languages (not in the rom) and an easy to use guide.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Just the normal packages (I just tested it once)

It is a Nokia Hybrid, but it comes with htc flashlight and photo enhancer.

Thank Ultrashot for his tools!
[HTC Titan] Budniu:
Ok THX - not multilang.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Camera extra's should be present, soft shutter button isn't, but a great idea for next release
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Is multilang better then? This saves size!
[HTC Titan] drupad2drupad:
So over all how is this different from the other 7.8s floating around in the forum?!
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
All apps are english, Font is fixed, languagepack included...

Just saying.. I didn't planned this release. I build this for myself. But because someone asked me!
[HTC Titan] wolfpt:
how to install and here is HSPL ??

Hi all , is my first time to update a cooked room in my titan , can you explain me how to install the correct hsp for eu TITAN ??

tnks
[HTC Titan] drupad2drupad:
Read the HSPL Guide or FAQs that are stickied. They have everything step by step.

---------- Post added at 07:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:41 PM ----------

Font fix and language packs I think are the main deal for many.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Sure I can!

Just download this file:

http://www.mediafire.com/?uhbrh0217585io3

Part 1

1. Extract rar file.

2. Put your phone in bootloader mode. (volume up and down pressed on boot).

3. Open the folder SPL from the supplied rar file.

4. Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe (as Admin).

5. Follow the Instructions.

6. Put your phone back in bootloader mode again. (volume up and down pressed on (re)boot).

Part 2

1. Open the folder HSPL.

2. Open DFT_HSPL_WP7SG1_INSTALL.exe (as Admin (again)).

3. Click next.

4. Click next (again).

5. Select HSPL.

6. It should install HSPL (put your phone in bootloader mode again)

Part 3

1. Open the folder Radio 17.

2. Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe.

3. Follow the instructions.

4. Put your phone in bootloader mode (again).

Part 4

1. Download my rom (first page of this tread)

2. Extract rar file.

3. Run TitanAdvancedRUU.exe (as Admin).

4. Follow instructions.

5. Install optional languages at first boot (supplied folder LANGUAGEPACK).

6. Set up your phone

7. Enjoy
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
I think so too.
[HTC Titan] drupad2drupad:
BTW when you say fonts fixed do you mean that odd space after letters like J are fixed too?
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Totally. Thats not an issue with any of my roms.

Any questions?
[HTC Titan] wolfpt:
im trying install portuguese language , i put all 4 cabs in same folder then wp7cabsender i press S AND say; cant find specific ....

what im doing wrong ??
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Just saying: read guide!

Ok here is the deal:

1. Make a new folder in C:\.

2. Call it PhoneLang.

3. Extract Portuguese - Portugal.rar in that folder (using winrar)

4. Run WP7 Cab Sender (as Admin)

5. Go (after the reboot) to the region & language in Settings.

6. Tap English, your language should be selectable.

(So the HSPL method worked!)
[HTC Titan] wolfpt:
im doing that , WHEN press S dont update ..
[HTC Titan] marcox92:
HI Sianto

Tried to flash ur ROM today, process is OK but device freezes on first scree (the first after HTC)

Tried to reflash, same

Device Titan first series

Europe SIM free
[HTC Titan] Petulinek:
First you must flash correct Radio version. Radio ROM 17, you have incorrect Radio ROM.
[HTC Titan] marcox92:
differences between EB edition and sianto one ?
[HTC Titan] marcox92:
W8 and Sianto ROM

Phone not recocgnized by W8 ?

Any other experience on that ?
[HTC Titan] doublenico:
Hello,

Does this ROM is fullunlock?

When i try to use Bazaar i have the message "your phone doesn't seem to be full unlock.

Thanks foy you help
[HTC Titan] Petulinek:
Yes,its full unlocked.

Open Root Manager and set permissions for Bazaar ;)
[HTC Titan] doublenico:
Thanks :p
[HTC Titan] svyatko:
Hi fellas, is anyone experiencing an issue with Nokia Music application in this rom? The app simply won't launch. It tries, and then exits to the home screen.

Thanks

Svyatko
[HTC Titan] fbirraque:
Hi Svyatko,

After update to latest version of Nokia Music I started to have this same issue.

Maybe it's related with new feature of SIM CARD location that Nokia had implemented.

Regards,
[HTC Titan] svyatko:
Thanks mate.

Just wanted to check its not me:)

I have looked around to see if there is an older version of the music app somewhere, but didn't find any reference. Will try to google next.

Cheers
[HTC Titan] :
It doesn't work on any rom...(at least the latest edition). I used NM up to the latest update. Anyway, I get the same type of error. I launch the app...it tries to launch, but exits back to the home screen. I'm on my own ROM right now...but I've tried 2-3 other roms already and no dice.
[HTC Titan] svyatko:
that's cool. I have managed to dig up version 3.1 online, and that's working fine. Just need to make sure I don't hit Update :)
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
It should work. It works fine with me!

on v2.0
[HTC Titan] :
Are you sure? The Nokia Music version 3.5.93 (the latest version)?
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
I'm not, I just updated :(.

I don't get why nokia is doing this.
[HTC Titan] markpab:
Thankyou very much for this great rom Sianto! Never flashed a rom before, but your detailed instructions made it easy even for a noob like me! I love my Titan now, like a new phone. Everything seems to be working fine. Thankyou again.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Hi,

Currently I don't have access to my phone, so I won't make updates (for a while). However, I will get my phone back in 2013. Then I will work on updates again. You can expect them Q1/Q2 2013.

Cheers
[HTC Titan] rylovengeance:
Rom doesnt work with v16 Radio

This rom does not work with v16 Radio. I've ran into this problem a lot lately. My Titan is unlocked for Tmobile and the v17 radio wont accept a Tmobile card!
[HTC Titan] vivekiny2k:
Do I need the Y-cable mentioned in the HSPL guide? This is for an unlocked euro version.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
No you dont.
[HTC Titan] Obturador:
Hi There!

This Rom Have Nokia drive?

Best regards,
[HTC Titan] berrywr:
I beg to differ, it will accept a T-Mobile SIM card but you have to remember you must subsidy carrier unlock your device to do so; HSPL and/or interop/developer unlock won't do it by itself. Until T-Mobile refarms it 1900 band, you won't be able to use 3G/3.5G bands only 2G/EDGE.
[HTC Titan] kdskamal:
Yes, since it emulates itself as Lumia 900.

PS: Can someone upload the v2.0 of this ROM? The latest version cannot be downloaded.
[HTC Titan] rylovengeance:
I know that, how could I be using the Titan on T-mobile without carrier unlock?
[HTC Titan] mike_san:
Sorry but how can install these custom roms?
[HTC Titan] Wevenhuis:
​

Download link is not working.
[HTC Titan] Wevenhuis:
Does anyone still have the 1.6 or 2.0 file or downloadlink?

Do all radios work with 1.6 and/or 2.0? (wifi, bluetooth, cellular, gps, fm, 3G)?
[HTC Titan] drupad2drupad:
Awesome, that's one annoying glitch I've seen mostly. Now that you said this is radio 17 for Euro, I'm tempted to give it a shot :)
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Did you run it as Admin?

Was your lockscreen unlocked?

Was your phone even connected?

The folder should be:

C:\PhoneLang

logs

tools

diff-xxxxx

diff-xxxxx

diff-xxxxx

diff-xxxxx

WP7 Update Cab Sender.bat

If all this is correct, and it doesn't work, install this, and try again:

http://www.mediafire.com/?paiwoqrkcga9iyh
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Try it, its great!

Everybody, let me know what you think of my ROM!!!
[HTC Titan] drupad2drupad:
Ok tried it! I'm checking it out - over all it does look swift. However, what fonts are these? They look pretty fat and shorter compared to stock ones. Different ones?

Also, one thing I've noticed is most WP7.8 ROMs are using dehydration hack by default, is it ON for your ROM too?
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
That, my friend, I don't know.

About the fonts. This was what I could get. It is better then the faulty ones supplied huh?
[HTC Titan] drupad2drupad:
Yeah, it is different. Definitely better compared to faulty ones sure.

I've checked, luckily enough dehydration hack is off by default in your ROM. I think based on that your ROM speed and stability is quite cool. Hopefully battery wont get a hit either.

Also, I've PMd you.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Yes, It's quite fast... and battery last just normal (in my experience*)

* I'm already using this for a few days
[HTC Titan] wolfpt:
Accent Changer didnt work. cant fix the color that u choose :(
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Reboot!
[HTC Titan] stuckwithname:
Have you got a UK English keyboard for this rom, loving the rom but need UK keyboard please ;)
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Will add English UK keyboard package in v1.6. I'll keep you informed
[HTC Titan] stuckwithname:
Thanks, will keep playing with this one until then :)
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Ok, fine!
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
v1.6

Hey guys,

I have good an bad news!

The good news is that I'm working on v1.6!

The bad news is that I have 5 different roms, and I need to release it for everyone of them. Its gonna take some time, but I'll get there.

Status: First testing stages on HTC Titan.

(I can get an mediafire personal account, so you'll have no parts anymore. It will just be one file. I need donations for that.)

THE TITAN USERS WILL BE THE FIRST ONES TO ENJOY THIS ROM
[HTC Titan] Planet X:
That sounds really nice. Tried to flash your ROM twice already but I am stuck on radio 16 and your ROM does not start through with this radio.

Do you have any idea how to get my radio updated? Tried already 20 times with different RUU flash tools. Also is dutcvh language included in your ROM?
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
It isn't in v1.5, but it will be in v1.6.

(ik kom ook uit nederland)
[HTC Titan] Planet X:
That is really good news. I only need to get the radio updated to radio 17. I have still no glue how that can be done.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Read part 3, and download the file in this post. (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32097753&postcount=14)
[HTC Titan] Planet X:
I have done that already 20 times. But my radio keeps showing me 16.23... I will try to update with RUU Tango but then my SPL will be 4.06 and I don't know if I will be able to downgrade then to HSPL again.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Flash a stock rom. via RUU. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1334468
[HTC Titan] Planet X:
You mean to downgrade after the Tango ROM? The Tango is my only option to get the Radio 17 I guess.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
I mean to downgrade to Mango stock, then flash radio 17. then flash 7.8
[HTC Titan] Planet X:
I have tried thatr already too. I have flashed taht one IMG_Eternity_HTC_Europe_2.05.401.01_Radio_Signed_16.23.06.10_16.32.00.23_ETERNITY_RELEASE.nbh and tried to upgrade the radio but no luck for me. The Radio is locked at 16.23.03.17 and never gets updated. Even after have gone back to stock the radio is different than the one from the stock ROM. Really strange.

I will try now go back to stock again. Do the HTC spl update to 2.06. And then HSPL again. If that does not help than update to TANGO release RUU_ETERNITY_Tango_00_S_HTC_Europe_4.06.401.03_Radio_Signed_17.5006.08.27_17.08.50.06_ETERNITY_RELEASE which has Radio 17. But will I be able to HSPL again without goldcard? I have no y-cable at the moment.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
You do have EU titan? I think so! You don't need goldcard. Read the HSPL GUIDE I gave you before.
[HTC Titan] Planet X:
Yes indeed. I have the European version. And I already HSPLéd after flashing Tango ROM. Only thing is my Radio still is the 16.23 version. Even after updating with the stock HTC Tango ROM. I absolutely don't know anymore what to do to get my Radio updated. The Tango ROM does not boot. Wonder why? Back to stock again.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Yes, then HSPL, and I reccommend flashing an wp tango custom rom first to test if it works.
[HTC Titan] Planet X:
It doesn't :crying:. The Radio does not get updated. Could you please make your new ROM available for Radio 16 too? I see no other way. I will now test the AT&T TGZ one as it is made for radio 16. But I guess no dutch in it either.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
You can flash this rom on radio 16!!
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Statusupdate

the languages seem to all work.

This will be in v1.6

FINALIZING TITAN ROM!!!
[HTC Titan] Planet X:
Yes, But the one before doesn't boot with Radio 16. This one will? Please :confused:
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Yes, but I think you should wait for v1.6,

Dutch Lang fully supported. Final stages.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
http://youtu.be/6a5wjA8sNNg

SNEAK PREVIEW V1.6

Any request?

Every language is working properly!
[HTC Titan] Planet X:
Looks sweet. Will try it when you are ready.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Uploading... Dutch + Dutch Keyboard working over here!!!!

Also Nokia Marketplace and HTC Sound enhancer are good addons...
[HTC Titan] Budniu:
You have new version Sound enhancer ? (with Beats Audio)
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Well, I couldn't open your link, so I can't check.

I don't think I have that version, but if you share it with me, I will put it in the next release!

Greetz
[HTC Titan] Budniu:
Ok try this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9leri8e7rdne96i/HTC_Sound%20Enhancer_beats_audio_PLK_w_ustawieniach.xap

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gdlh2skpvknshl8/HTC_Sound Enhancer_beats_audio.xap?m
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
v1.6

v1.6 is ready to be used as a daily driver.

Check the first post.

This Release includes

-all languages

-all keyboards

-HTC Sound Enhancer

-Nokia Marketplace

(Budniu: It's the same exept for the icon.)
[HTC Titan] Budniu:
Ok.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Is that in the meaning of:

OK:o

or

OK:(

?
[HTC Titan] PedrooNL:
Any solution for the calendar tile issues in this one?
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
No, but it has all the languages!!!
[HTC Titan] Budniu:
It's mean: OK:cyclops:
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
So you're going to use this on your phone??
[HTC Titan] Budniu:
Yes. Now I don't remeber but I think that in new version exist one more options: "Dolby mobile".
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
The DOLBY MOBILE is in my rom too!
[HTC Titan] Budniu:
Ok. I wrote - I don't remember:good:
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
All right!
[HTC Titan] Planet X:
It is not working with Radio 16. I always get your bootscreen Sianto Edition and it just stay there. I really would like to see whats coming after...

So back to another older stock ROM and try to update Radio again. Could you make a Radio 16 Edition too?

Edit: Don't need the Radio 16 version anymore. I am now up and running the v16 in dutch. Thank you. I fashed version 2.05 back and let my phone update through Zune. I installed the SPL 2.6 fix from HTC to make the updates work. After 4 updates my phone didn't boot trough as I know from different ROM's with wrong Radio versions before. But then I booted in SPL and saw Radio 17 has been installed. So I took the chance to flash SPL and HSPL again and my Radio is changeable now :P. I upgraded to Radio 17 again and your ROM immedeatley after that. And it has booted. Now I have to reinstall all apps and then I hopefully will enjoy Windows Phone 7.8 in dutch on my Titan.
[HTC Titan] gremsems:
Whats wrong with the calendar?

Does it have the Camera Extras too?
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
I don't know

Camera extra's should be preinstalled.

Wait I tested it...

ITS PREINSTALLED
[HTC Titan] drupad2drupad:
Nevermind, found it on their website. Will try on my phone and update FAQs accordingly! Thanks for this! :)
[HTC Titan] de_goeiste:
Great ROM

Very nice ROM. One bug, Dutch keyboard corrections doesn't work. Switched it to English and that one works. Have done a factory reset but still the same.
[HTC Titan] sianto1997:
Thanx for noticing. Will fix this in next release!
[HTC Titan] :
can someone comment on the color themes available for this rom? (such as how many?) This may sound ridiculous, but honestly I am finding Advanced Config to be messing up on all these roms...including some of the Tango roms -which in turns leaves me with broken accent colors whenever I change them...and I am too lazy to go look up the color codes and change them myself in regedit.

Anyway I am currently using DeepShinings ROM and the color scheme is absolute perfect for me...however since I am using radio 17, my service is horrid where I live (but is somewhat manageable depending where I am in my house)....so I was wanting to flash to another rom such as this.

I tried EB's rom and the Vietnamese one (WPV) - however they seem to lack on this. Anyway anything is greatly appreciated.
[HTC Titan] Planet X:
There has been around 12 available already but I liked the HTC Geen or Nokia Blue the most. So I fixed it fixed it myself with advanced Config.

@ Sianto1997: Could the keyboard spelling control be fixed in the registry too?

Could you please tell us the right key so we can fix it until your next release?
[HTC Titan] sysares75:
SMS Dictionary

Hi, when I use SMS or Mail or Whatsapp I don't have the Italian Dictionary. Any hints to activate it ?

Thanks

Matt
[HTC Titan] sharting:
Thanks a lot for this ROM I was waiting for WP7.8 for a while. There are 2 issues that I found:

1. The Picture tile, once you make it smaller it can't be resized to full size again (I saw this was a known issue for HTC Radar)

2. Yahoo Mail forgets my password from time to time, when I tap sync I am asked for my password. This happens usually every morning.
[HTC Titan] fkiehner:
Getting Incorrect vendor ID

Started step one and get 4% into the romupdateutility and the run bails out and I get the incorrect vendor ID message and the phone reboots back to normal operation. Any suggestions?

Running Titan, ATT, Tango.

Thanks,

Frank K.
[HTC Titan] malvo26:
You have a branded phone. First you have to unbrand the phone or use ATT roms
[HTC Titan] fkiehner:
Darn!

Guess figuring out what/how a goldcard is is in my future! Curses ATT!
[HTC Titan] malvo26:
If you go for the gold card don't forget to flash the EURO.rom first otherwise you'll get stuck somewhere.
[HTC Titan] ody360:
What Model phone does this ROM have setup to? Does it allow us to update Nokia apps through the marketplace?
[HTC Titan] Planet X:
This ROM is setup for Nokia Markeplace. Also the OEM keys are set to Nokia Lumia. You are able to download and use Nokia apps. Some are already preinstalled.
[HTC Titan] iamwin:
hi! can i flash my device using Windows 8 pro?
[HTC Titan] Planet X:
Yes, you can. Don't forget: run as administrator.
[HTC Titan] iamwin:
thanks!
[HTC Titan] yvomans:
Dutch Thesaurus not working

First of all, thanks for this great 7.8 ROM! Installed it on my Titan. Works like a breeze. Only one thing does not work; Dutch thesaurus when typing. Actually all other than English do not work. What could this be? Is there a (registry?) solution or some to get a workaround?