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[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Danny 0311:
Please explain something to me, because maybe i've got this wrong. You steal from a company, then complain when you get caught? Whether or not you like your carrier's policy(you can leave when your contract is up), sooner or later, you will have to pay the piper.:confused:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ecapox:
It does not, and will not, apply to anyone other than Verizon. Thid is because Verizon uses the 700mhz spectrum thst they purchased from the govt. This purchase came with significant restrictions. These restrictions force verizon to not limit tethering for their customers. Again. This does not, amd will not, apply to att or tmobile. Verizon only.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] sly-tendencies:
My mom was on the old school unlim. plan, and she uses a decent amount of data per month. Due to her high data usage, AT&T issued a warning letter to stop tethering. She called AT&T to explain that she didn't even know what tethering was, and everything seemed fine. 2 months later she got a letter stating that AT&T downgraded her to a 5GB plan because she kept tethering. BS.

Stock ICS on my S3 :(
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Dj Cake:
i got busted for doing it back when i had my iphone, gave me a last warning as well so now that i have my S3 im scared to even attempt it. Wracked up almost 9 gigs last month so losing my granddaddehh is no option for me.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ehaze:
just normal usage or you download stuff?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] waiters:
I need to call bs on that. Att doesn't assume you are tethering because of data usage.. They assume you are tethering because you are tethering... They can tell..

I've done 50gb/month without tethering notifications because I didn't tether..
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] goojman:
Do you work for At&t or wut dude??
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] SoCoMagNuM:
I dont see that "stealing" when you pay for data..you should be able to use it as you please, whether it be on unlimited plan or tiered plan. ESPECIALLY tiered plan. If you pay for 5GB a month it shouldnt matter how you use it. ITS YOUR DATA that you paid to use. Doesnt matter if you want to use it for sauce on some BBQ wings, its data that you paid for and if you want to share it then thats fine as long on you dont go over your limit.

Charging an extra $15-20 to have that privilege to share data you paid in advance for...THATS STEALING.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Cmoore0965:
"Should be able to," doesn't mean anything. It's in the contract you signed. Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with your principal views on data. But the bottom line, when it comes to people seeking consolation, or empathy when unpaid tethering gets caught, is that you knowingly, and in full understanding agreed to those terms. They wanted money, for tethering, you declined, agreed not to, then did it anyways.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ed20910:
I am not sure what At&T is doing/using to catch tethering but it is working. I have used it over the past 2-3 years sparingly. I had not used it 1 day over the last 6 months. Used it 1 time for about an hour of web surfing and got the threatening letter. My wife has used in the past consitently without a problem and recently go the letter. I think they are specifically watching the unlimited plans looking for any excuse to take it away without being the "bad guy". I don't agree with their limiting how or what we use the data for but do understand I signed a contract. If I don't agree I can go else where. I have been throttled also and it sucks. How many that are complaining actually read the agreement before signing. They even block the phone from using tethering by default. We have to bypass it to even use it. To each their own. Do it, get caught, deal with it. You wanna sue, sue. Find the right lawyer, who knows. A lady got paid for her coffee being too hot! Just my $.02
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] troycarpenter:
Just so you know, back when the Atrix OG came out, AT&T loosely defined tethering as hooking any external device to the phone. Using the lapdock was defined as tethering (and still is because Webtop still checks for a tethering plan before it will allow the tablet interface) and (get this), hooking up a TV to the HDMI port and watching Netflix was also defined as tethering (no joke).
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] gerbig:
It seems clear they monitor all our traffic, or at least they have that ability. Kinda freaky if you think too much about it...

Our phones are very capable and there's all kinds of legitimate phone usage that would be hard to separate from computer usage. If I were building a system to heuristically determine what traffic comes from a computer and what comes from a phone, I think the first thing I'd look for is desktop software trying to update itself.

A VPN gateway would be ideal, if perhaps a little suspicious on its own. But setting up a VPN isn't always easy/cheap/possible.

I've started disabling Windows update as a precautionary measure when tethering. It's probably a good idea to do the same for Adobe and Java, but I don't think they reach out to the update servers as frequently as Windows update.

Anyone know a good software firewall that makes it easy to block traffic based on the program it comes from? I can imagine a setup where whenever I tether I configure my system to only allow traffic from whitelisted programs. That seems like it would be the safest. All background Internet processes would be halted and their heuristics would only see what I allow them to see.

I have no idea if this would actually hinder their ability to detect tethering, but it makes sense to me....
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vrmaier:
sandvine

After reading the sandvine PDF, it appears AT&T has contracted sandvine to do deep packet inspection to determine who is tethering. They are looking at IP address, # of simultaneous sessions, HTTP header info, protocols, device type, device screen size.

I have over 10 years networking and server administration background. The easiest way to hide this is to VPN. Otherwise we will need to strip/edit packet info realtime. Much more difficult.

Also, long time fan of XDA. One of my first posts. Great community. Thanks everyone.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] lgkahn:
Well ill tell you one thing I have been an ATT customer since before they were Cingular and I tether maybe a half hour once or twice a year when visiting our inlaws and there is no internet or open WiFi. If they give me a hard time I am walking and they will loose a lot of money for all four of us. No mater what they say as far as I am concerned data is data.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] NYYFan02:
I promise you that what you consider a lot of money is a tinkle of piss in the ocean to them.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ConeyKiller:
It'd be like Time Warner or Comcast saying you pay for one internet connection, so you can use one device. I guess I should shush up so I don't give them any ideas!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] anfiann:
They own the network and have all the info which shows his unique ids attached to his account.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] altitude909:
Tethering is allowed (and included) on tiered plans.

Personally, I think they should just cap the speed of the plan you grandfathered in and leave it unlimited, if you had 2g then it should stay there. That's what you initially paid for and there is no reason they should change that service and offer you more. Do you think anyone would bother tethering if they only had EDGE speeds?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ViciousDiarrhea:
I only tether when I absolutely NEED it, which isn't much. There was this one time I went to Orlando and tethered to my laptop the whole weekend and no notices.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] blackxored:
I'm pretty sure that's flawed. The existence of your tethered devices is not much more detectable than when you're behind a proxy. The device will most likely masquerade all packets from the originated source and every piece of protocol information is going to be reset and only maintained by the phone (connection origin and destination, etc). Most likely, this could come to UA detection (plain old sniffing), flow rate, or your machine or phone leaking.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] javadahutch:
Just got this text yesterday....haven't tethered in over a month....been a subscriber with this plan since August 2012
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] aybarrap1:
I personally do not tether. I love my unlimited plan and for this reason alone I keep from doing myself from tethering. I do actually hit the throttling point a couple times of year as well so it makes it worth while. However, I agree that tethering should be allowed in any data plan without paying for the privilege. The debate as far as whether we are paying for the amount of data or the use of the resource is pointless. I pay a set amount to AT&T to use their network resources so I can utilize data...period. I understand why they throttle unlimited users on the data plan. However, whether I am using my phone by itself or a tethered device to reach that cap should not be considered. In no way do I intend for my cellular data to replace my home internet. I stream too much video and do too many downloads.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] viny2cool:
I got a text message from ATT last month saying "Do you know tethering your smartphone to a computer requires a tethering plan?" , then when I called ATT customer service for something else, they routed me to notice department. The rep goes, you are tethering on your unlimited plan and I said I don't have unlimited plan (I have 2gb for $25/mo). She was little dumb so I yelled at her and she removed all the notices from my account.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] raydaddyg:
Tethering plans

Hey I work for att and they are rolling out their mobile share data plans. Even on unlimited data plans AT&T will restrict your data speeds if you break, I think, 5 GB. And when I say restrict you're gonna wish it were dial-up speeds. With the mobile share account you have have up to 20 GB of data and all types will give you tethering capabilities plus the ability to add a tablet onto your account for $10. Let me know if you have any specific att questions.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] skrambled:
Oh hai! We already have tethering capabilities built into Android. Why does your company feel the need to find more ways to rip off loyal customers by charging for things that AT&T didn't create? If we have a 5gb limit, it's should be ours do with as we see fit.

It's like when you used to try to charge people to use the lame, weak AT&T Navigation app when the Google Navigation app works much better and is completely free.

Please pass the word around that these actions will be costing you customers when contracts end, including mine.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jp6285:
its very easy to see when somebody is tethering. the data is coded and displayed as a totally different type of usage to the reps. from my understanding (mind you this was a few years ago) it has to do with how many hops the data makes.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] majikfox:
Actually, you're breaching the contract.

Here's your wireless agreement, opened to the relevant section.

And quoted:

if you are on a data plan that does not include a monthly megabyte allowance and additional data usage rates, you agree that AT&T has the right to impose additional charges if you use more than 5 GB in a month; prior to the imposition of any additional charges, AT&T shall provide you with notice and you shall have the right to terminate your Service (early termination charges may apply).

So in other words, if they terminate your plan for tethering, you have to pay an early termination fee before you can resume service.

You may also have to pay an activation fee and pass a credit check.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] altitude909:
Good post. Surprised this wasn't the first reply to the all this whining. People seem to think they are entitled to something just because they pay for it, what they are ACTUALLY entitled to is spelled out in legal terms in the "Wireless Customer Agreement" not "I pay for it so I should get whatever i want". If you had a 2 year unlimited contract, that was valid for 2 years. Anything beyond that is at their discretion.

Here is another critical part absolutely has to understand

1.3 Can AT&T Change My Terms And Rates?

We may change any terms, conditions, rates, fees, expenses, or charges regarding your Services at any time.

We will provide you with notice of material changes (other than changes to governmental fees, proportional charges for governmental mandates, roaming rates or administrative charges) either in your monthly bill or separately. You understand and agree that State and Federal Universal Service Fees and other governmentally imposed fees, whether or not assessed directly upon you, may be increased based upon the government's or our calculations.

IF WE INCREASE THE PRICE OF ANY OF THE SERVICES TO WHICH YOU SUBSCRIBE, BEYOND THE LIMITS SET FORTH IN YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE SUMMARY, OR IF WE MATERIALLY DECREASE THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IN WHICH YOUR AIRTIME RATE APPLIES (OTHER THAN A TEMPORARY DECREASE FOR REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE), WE’LL DISCLOSE THE CHANGE AT LEAST ONE BILLING CYCLE IN ADVANCE (EITHER THROUGH A NOTICE WITH YOUR BILL, A TEXT MESSAGE TO YOUR DEVICE, OR OTHERWISE), AND

YOU MAY TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT WITHOUT PAYING AN EARLY TERMINATION FEE OR RETURNING OR PAYING FOR ANY PROMOTIONAL ITEMS, PROVIDED YOUR NOTICE OF TERMINATION IS DELIVERED TO US WITHIN THIRTY (30) DAYS AFTER THE FIRST BILL REFLECTING THE CHANGE

.

If you lose your eligibility for a particular rate plan, we may change your rate plan to one for which you qualify.

So, by using their service you agree to these terms, whether you have read them or not. If you tether more than 5 gigs on a grandfathered plan and they change it to a tiered plan, there is the door if you dont like it.

"We may change any terms, conditions, rates, fees, expenses, or charges regarding your Services at any time" is ALWAYS part of the contract. It was on the unlimited plans and it still is now. They will abide to whatever terms you sign the contract for its term but beyond that, they have no obligation to keep those terms and have EVERY right to adjust them as they see fit as the technology changes.

The fact they allow 5 gigs of tethered data on a plan that was around before tethering existed should be enough. They are not stupid, just because got a unlimited plan on your iphone 3G (on a MUCH older and slower network) 4 years ago and kept it doesn't mean you are entitled to a unlimited, modern LTE wireless modem for all your other devices and thinking that somehow there should be a loophole that would allow that to fly is ridiculous
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] lgkahn:
Hey jerk we are not complaining about unlimited data... we are complaining that if we are on a tiered plan...not unlimited... we should be able to use our data up to our limit however we see fit tethered or not! The carrier charging extra to tether is just greed on there part
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] zelendel:
OK guys this subject has been beat to death for over a year now. A search would have shown you this.

Thread closed

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oakieville:
i have tried pm disable com.samsung i tried all kinds of things how can i disable the system update and notification
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=30205683

If you're not rooted, i have seen a stock method posted before. Might take a bit to find..

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] patrao_n:
When you didabled it did you wipe cache and dalvik?

sent from my BAD A$$ Epic touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oakieville:
Yes i am rooted and i already have fotakill installed
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oakieville:
Yes i wiped cache and dalvik but when i type pm disable com.samsung it says invalid arguement or something like that then goes thru a bunch of stuff at the end it does say something about killed com.samsung or something like that also if type the command to get a list of services it doesnt have com.samsung
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] playya:
pm commands dont stop OTA but check system/app folder to make sure that FOTAkill have proper permissions set.

Edit: Also there is another thread in here with some other choices if you have not tried them already
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] patrao_n:
Just making sure. You did type su then hit enter before you put the disable code right

sent from my BAD A$$ Epic touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oakieville:
Yes permissions r set
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oakieville:
Yes i typed su first
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oakieville:
Could u pls link to the other thread thank u not sure which thread u mean
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pmcavalier2002:
I've flashed this .zip file (I've attached below) and have had no problems with the OTA update prompt. But be sure to wipe cache and davlik. But here is your link request http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1832496
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oakieville:
Im not sure wat my prob is i flashed that wiped cache and dalvik rebooted after about 2 minutes system update appeared
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
What rom are you running btw?

Have you backed up the rom then tried to take the update to see if it is really the ota and not something else?

Edit: Worse case scenario, I can edit the build.prop file so the ROM thinks it is a current ICS build so it won't nag you any longer either.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oakieville:
Im on stock rooted rom i have custom recovery so ota fails and i want to do it without editing build.prop i buy these phone broken fix them and flash to metro and sell them so i dont want to edit build.prop and miss lead the people buying them also figure out y pm disable com.samsung isnt working stupidity on my part i flash to metro so i remove the device manager.apk or it will keep trying to activate and the device manager.apk is wat that command disable i put it back then the command works but still got update notifations

This seems to work i got it from thread pmcavalier2002 linked to
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lecrote:
I've got a leather belt pouch and after 3 weeks the belt loop tear away.

So I'm looking for:

heavy duty horizontal belt pouch (nylon or leather)

Belt loop as far I don't like belt clip

Magnetic enclosure ( quieter than velcro)

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Dan
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pierceye:
Dickies makes one that might fit the bill. It's probably going to have a velcro closure though. Heavyweight nylon build, and one of the few pouch styles that fits an oversized screen.

http://www.alternativewireless.com/...hes-cases/dickies-tool-bag-phone-pouches.html
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gbarayah:
I bought this one from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Leath..._1_11?s=mobile&ie=UTF8&qid=1348684194&sr=1-11

Gets the job done. It has a clip and belt loops and a solid magnetic enclosure. I use it along with a Dizitronic case on my Nexus and its a nice, snug fit. Its generic but doesn't look cheap either. For $5, hard to beat.
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jxie215:
I tried to install Tab2Lite RC3 on my tablet following the instructions listed on the link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1888179&highlight=boot but now my tablet is not booting. I had CM10 Nightlies build on it before so rooted it before and I just went on starting from step 2 in the descriptions. I hope my tablet is not bricked :( What do I have to do to fix this?

*EDIT* I mean to say when I boot the tablet it shows the splash then goes to CWM recovery mode! :(
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mohamedselim:
I think reflash cwm 6.0.10 or 6.0.1.2 via pc odin

Then reflash rom but before make a factory reset ( will lose user data) and delete cash and dalvik

Or try a different rom as aokp or cm10 from www.teamhacksung.org

Sent from Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab2
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MultipleMonomials:
Are you saying that you tried to root a custom ROM? What model tab is this?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] edekalil:
I have a friend who is on att and wants an unlocked g2x I have. I put his card into my g2x and it makes calls and gets on the edge network

(the little E shows up). What I am wondering is, is the phone working at 3g speeds or 2g? He has an Iphone 3gs. Also is there any roms for the g2x that are more suited to run better on att? Any info would be helpful.

Thanks

Eddie
[T-Mobile LG G2x] justjackyl:
I believe the issue is your using a t mobile phone on att network. They both use GSM and CDMA But for the faster speeds the phone needs to be able to handle that networks technology. T mobile high speed is that HSPA+, not sure what att is or if they use it, if they don't, the phone won't run on their "whatever " highspeed. Make sense? Check out what att highspeed is.

I may be wrong.

Sent from G2x running BuROM v0.2 (root; mod stock 2.3.4) w/ faux's GB kernel 014b2-ext4.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] edekalil:
Thanks for the reply.

Eddie
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sickkside13:
Yeah that might be true but now T-Mobile got and ad on their homepage saying bring ur unlocked phone to T-Mobile maybe now att phones will have 3g speeds or 4g who knows i gonna try unlocking my work phone wich is a att Samsung skyrocket
[T-Mobile LG G2x] justjackyl:
No problem. Find anything out? Ive been too busy to look myself.

Sent from G2x running BuROM v0.2 (root; mod stock 2.3.4) w/ faux's GB kernel 014b2-ext4.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Aricrj:
I thought the G2x was a quad band phone that could work on either networks?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ghiamann:
G2x on AT&T

I have 2 G2x's (Me & wife). Both through Straight Talk. One on T-Mobile & one on AT&T. From the research I've done & personal experience with the two phones, the fastest data speed you will be able to get with a G2x on AT&T is Edge. I plan on switching the AT&T over to T-Mobile shortly. At least the 4G is fast where I can find it. :)

Ghiamann
[Nexus 7 Accessories] jt.61:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PU-Leather-...Inch-Tablet-Multiple-Color-/221095819899?var=

Anyone have this case and let me know your opinion on Oct because it looks like a decent case for the price.

Thanks
[Nexus 7 Accessories] phil112345:
keep an eye on this thread
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Troute:
You put leather in your title, it's PU not actually leather just to avoid possible confusion.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] R3dbeaver:
I, and many XDA members bought exactly this case....

here's my thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1823702
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ayopancheezy:
i would've definitely bought that if i saw it earlier. i just bought this one instead because Amazon was having a prime free trial and shipping was 2 days for technically $1.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D2POAS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

i love the color options and its simplicity.