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[Nook HD, HD+ General] Tigrisan:
No, unfortunately, you need root access to load Play. It won't work if you don't have that. Plus, anything you've sideloaded will have to continue to be sideloaded if Play isn't working. Somewhere in this thread, there are great instructions and/or a link to them on how to root for Play, but I'm not so worried about Play right now so didn't bother. I'm betting in the next couple weeks, there will be a root that will run from an SD card (I think it was verygreen's that I used in my Nook Tablet) so I can wait for that.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
No. You need root in order to make the mods. But after root you can just install Play Store without the rest of the gapps.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] kunchers:
Thanks, leapinlar and Tigrisan -- you've been very helpful. Excited that so much progress has been made in such a short time. I was going to hold off getting the HD for a couple of months until I found this thread.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] aeturnus77:
xda app, google voice, amazon store

hmmm so I've been reading throguh these forums and maybe i missed something somewhere but ...

I have a NON-rooted nook HD, and I'd sideloaded the Amazon Appstore, and it installs fine. I go to install something from it, and bam! can't. I get the nook protective message telling me I can't install. Did I miss a setting for installing apps from unknown sources or is there another method that needs to be done?

Also, I cannot get the xda app to install, it gives an error when i adb install it: [INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_NO_CERTIFICATES] Any Ideas? I've seen some posts here saying they've posted via the app.

Andddd, anyone have any luck yet with Google Voice and all it's FCs?

thanks :)
[Nook HD, HD+ General] tonyp22:
I seem to have put myself between a rock and a hard place. I've rooted successfully but want to use the SQLite Editor method for the database modifications. I used the Go Launcher Go Store widget to buy SQLite, and the Google store interface made it seem like it did download (it even said Installed but I know better), but I can't find the apk anywhere. I did a search with Root Explorer and figured I'd just copy it back to my laptop and then do an adb install, but it sure looks like it never came over - which is a little annoying since it does now show that I bought it. I know there's the nook-tools method, but now that I've gone and bought SQLite Editor I want that apk! Any way I can make that happen?
[Nook HD, HD+ General] dbh369:
Anybody have a fix for 'recent'? If I use the one from b&n, all I get is the apps that are loaded by b&n, not all the side loads. Is there another 'recent apps' (history) app so I can actually switch back and forth?
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
You have to be rooted to be able to enable unknown sources. For info on how to root and enable unknown sources, look at my HD+ tips thread linked in my signature.

And those people that posted from the app (me included), installed after rooting and enabling unknown sources.

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You got your cart before the horse. You have to have unknown sources enabled before you can have play store install anything. If you look in /cache/downloads, you may find the uninstalled app there, but play store usually deletes it after installation, so may not be there. Only other solution is to install on another device (once you bought it, it is available for all your devices) and pull or copy it to your PC. Then ADB install to the HD+.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] aeturnus77:
That indeed got it done. Thanks!
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
You can install an app called task switcher by Jason Parekh. Put a shortcut on your home page and you can switch between active apps. Does no good for closed apps though.

Edit: Or better yet, get the app 'recent plus'. It says it is for Nook Color CM7, but works on the HD. It needs to be put on the home page as a shortcut though. The stock recent button does not bring it up.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] r1c47:
Nook HD/+ sensors

Can any of you confirm whether the HD/+ has either GPS, compass or gyroscope?(for example, does the "gps status" app show any measurements?)

Also, can you enable that bar in the bottom of the screen that these new phones with no buttons seem to have by using any of those launchers you guys have recommended?

Oh! and does USB OTG work?(I assume you would need a USB hub or someting)
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
No to both questions. No GPS and no custom navigation bar. Stuck with stock navigation bar (which is always there and very usable, BTW).
[Nook HD, HD+ General] tonyp22:
Understood, but I didn't want to mess with the nook-tools method of putting stuff in /system. In any even, I rerooted by Nook Tablet and got it from there. I had wiped my Tablet (too soon, it seems) to get it ready for the new owner.

Anyone else notice in GoLauncher, when looking at the Running apps, they can't be terminated? I seem to remember when I used GoLauncher in my NT that you could terminate running apps from that panel. Or was that ADW? Can't remember, I had both.

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The clear screen protectors are finally in stock at my local B&N. I was going to pick one up tonight and started thinking about how to clean the screen before installing the film. In the past I've usually installed the screen protectors on Day 1 so the screen never got full of oils etc. With the clear glass screen I can see loads of oily deposits that I'm not sure the micro-fiber cloth alone can remove. Should I just try that, or maybe a bit of 93% isopropyl alcohol to dissolve the finger evidence?
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
Have B&N install it. They do a good job and for free. They clean it with some swabs, I think alcohol.

Don't know about go launcher.

PS, you got the right idea about getting rid of your Nook Tablet. I have two Nook Colors that I use now for helping folks, and a Nook Tablet. Now that I have the HD+, I never pick the Tablet up. I liked the rooted stock on it, but the HD+ is so much better. If only I could get Google Voice to work. Oh well, I am sure CM10 is coming.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] lollyjay:
I think if you long-press one of the apps, you will get an "X" so you can kill the app.

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[Nook HD, HD+ General] tonyp22:
Yeah, tried that. Didn't seem to work.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] RALIR:
Thank you, Taosaur. I did all the things you mentioned. I started the Superuser and got and granted the "allow" permission. I then verified it using a Terminal app and noting that "su" command worked. Lastly, I copied Nook Tools app into system/app folder by using ES File Explorer after enabling root access in ES File Explorer. Then and only then I looked in the App drawer of Nova launcher. When I did not see it, I then tried Apex Launcher as well, but no luck.

At that point, I had given up on Nook Color tools and decided to try the SQLite Editor approach because I thought that through that one step, not only can I enable "Non Market" apps, but also prevent automatic OTA updating. For that I followed Roustabout's procedure, deleting the wal and shm files of the database tables that I edited. This I tried 3 times, each time ending up with 8-time reboot failure and finally ending back up with stock ROM, losing root in the process.

Now I have just gone back to stock ROM and sideloading all my apps. It works for my needs, but I am just cocerned that I have no way to back up all apps and settings through Titanium backup.

Thank you.

Regards,

RaliR
[Nook HD, HD+ General] dbh369:
Great, thanks. I tied it to a shortcut in notification toggles so i could reach it without going to home screen.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
What does that mean? You tied it to a shortcut in notification toggles?

BTW, is there some trick to getting the notification area open. I have to tap, tap, tap and still usually don't get it to come up.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] dbh369:
Notification Toggles is another app that lets you put shortcuts or other actions in the notification bar of android. I use it on my phone to quickly switch wifi, etc., but since I can also add an app shortcut, now I just need to hit the notification symbol at the top, hit the shortcut and I'm able to switch apps. Otherwise, I'd have to go to the homescreen where the shortcut is. That's all.

And yes, sometimes I have to keep hitting the notification area. One thing seems to be the screen needs calibration, I often miss what I'm trying to tap, need to hit a little low...
[Nook HD, HD+ General] Tigrisan:
Well, as I suspected, I managed to screw something up trying to root. I'd sideloaded a lot of apps after my HD+ first updated and things worked really well. I had few quirks though the one thing that didn't work was Play. So, after having lots of things working, I decided maybe I could try rooting though I felt it might be a bit beyond me. The instructions were very clear though, so I figured, "Why not?"

Well, I ended up with the dreaded 8 boot sequence and a wiped device and now, though I can sideload, I can't gain permissions on several of my sideloaded apps and I can't figure out what I'm doing so...unless you're really good, wait until someone comes up with a root off an SD card.

I haz a sad...
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
I don't know what you did to upset your system to cause a reset. Roustabout's instructions were not using SQLite Editor, he was pulling and using an editor on his PC and pushing them back. Maybe you pushed them to the wrong location or deleted a file in /system while you deleted those database files.

If you are rooted and have SQLite Editor, it is very easy to block OTA and enable unknown sources. SQLite Editor does all file manipulation for you. No need to delete any files. Just open the database with the app and change the values. Click save and you are done. No danger of a reset. If you want to know which databases and what values to change, look in my HD+ tips thread linked in my signature.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] Taosaur:
I've been using Recent Plus bound to the Home key via ADW Ex, but it takes a double tap--one to get to the default home screen, and one more to bring up Recent Plus. I might try the Notification Toggles method.

Re: blocking OTA, I know Roustabout said elsewhere that his method failed and he did get updated. I still haven't received the update, despite taking no steps to block it and being online quite a bit.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
How did you do that? I use ADW EX and I can't find that option.

Edit: ok, I found it. You tie home key to an app. But it does not take you to the default ADW screen on the first click, it takes you to ADW but on whatever screen you were on last. Then the second tap brings up recent. But I think I could live with that. Trying to get the notification area open on my device is a pain. In fact I set up a down swipe gesture on adw to bring up the notification area, it's so hard to activate.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] roustabout:
actually, I was using sqlite on the device - at the time I was using it, I was unable to grant it root, so I copied the settings and devicemanager databases over to the /sdcard directory, made my changes, copied them back to their respective directories in /data and rebooted to be sure I was not about to start work all over again.

Later I got the play store running as well. It turned out that I needed a more up-to-date sqlite editor to work directly on the files in /data.

This weekend, my HD+ updated to 2.0.4; I think I need to look at the possible values for OTA, and I also think it's possible that I checked for updates via the menus at some point and that was considered a 'manual update' as far as the devicemanager.db was concerned.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
Yep, that's what you did. Lesson learned folks. If you have it set to manual, don't manually check if you don't want updated.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] roustabout:
The good news is that I lost neither root nor my apps due to my bumbling.

I wonder what's happening with the settings.db and devicemanager.db pulls but those should work without resetting the device. And really, if you use a current copy of the sqlite editor, you can change those databases right where they live.

I got into settings just now and set "location_providers_allowed" to "network," then set 'allow mock locations' in developer settings to 'enabled.'

Suddenly, I'm able to get network location in maps, earth, etc. once I grant an app permission to use my location.

And thanks for the pointer to Recent Plus - a very nice addition to the HD+
[Nook HD, HD+ General] aeturnus77:
So I've finally got this thing running almost how I want it, except for messaging. I use GO SMS for go chat and it just will not allow me to send a go chat wifi message. Is this because it still relies on a messaging system and this doesn't have one? I can do this on my CM7/10 nook color..

Thanks to everyone working on this system :)
[Nook HD, HD+ General] Taosaur:
We're basically using Recent Plus to band-aid the Gingerbread recent apps function onto the HD+, but at least we have the option. On the NC it would be bound to long-press on the 'n' key, but I haven't found any way to do that on the HD+. Either standard ICS recent apps or getting non-Nook apps into the HD+ recent apps list would be an improvement. It is cool having recent books/comics/magazines (that you accessed via the stock reader) listed in there.

The telling points are whether you got a Superuser Allow/Deny dialog after enabling root permissions for the file manager (and/or after attempting to mount /system r/w) and whether the NookColor Tools APK was listed in the /system/apps folder after you attempted to paste. If neither of the above is true, the failing was likely in your file manager, not in your rooting or your launcher. From the Nook Color days, I always use the Root Explorer app when it comes to mounting /system r/w for any purpose, because it has that simple r/w|ro toggle at the top of the screen and practically every other file manager on the market has flaked on me at some point for this simple operation.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
I thought I would pass on an experiment I just performed. I was on version 2.0.2 and I had OTA blocked by editing the database to manual. And since folks said 2.0.4 was ok and did no damage, I decided to test the theory that pushing check for updates causes it to update. Well, it immediately checked and found the update and with no further input from me, downloaded it, rebooted and tried to install it. But it failed for me and it said to reboot to try again. I feared I was in a bootloop which would reset me. But the next boot completed without trying the update again. I was still on 2.0.2. So I went to /cache/recovery to read the last log of recovery and it said it aborted due to not finding build.prop. Then I remembered I had done the symlink trick with build.prop so I could play with settings to see if I could make Play Store see more apps as compatible. So the update installer script reported no such file and aborted. Also I learned that the update file is downloaded to /cache/recovery and is named bn_bnvt600_update.zip and is apparently deleted after the install, or attempted install in my case. It also checks a key in /res/keys and verifies that with something in the zip before it starts installation.

So what I learned:

So i guess it was an informative experiment. Might be some useful data for some folks.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] tech6:
Will a 64GB or 128 GB card work in the HD+?

Before I purchase a new SD card, in the forum someone made reference to the fact that the Nook HD+ will take a 64GB card is that true? Or really does it matter what memory size you purchase for it? Right now I'm using a Kingston HC 32GB card that when you save documents and video on it doesn't copy over the items. The folders are there, but the items copied over are not enclosed.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] tebra:
I just make the update from 2.0.2 to 2.0.4 and confirm that I keep root, apps and config.

But when opening /data/data/com.bn.devicemanager/databases com.bn.device.fota.mode was turn again to "auto"

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It don't works for me.

Could you explain a little bit more what you have done to get network location?
[Nook HD, HD+ General] hwong96:
Maximum size sd card for HD/HD+ is 64gb. It's in the specs.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
location services

First, after my aborted update I discussed earlier, the database setting stayed at 'manual'.

Second, I had trouble making roustabout's change for locations too, but figured it out. I was confused on the second part of the change. So I will reword it for you.

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You may be confused by the terminology. When you plug in to your PC and copy files to 'SD Card', then you look on the HD, it is not under 'sdcard'. That is because you just put the files on ext_sdcard, not sdcard. To see ext_sdcard, go to mnt, and look there. If you want files to go to 'sdcard', copy things to 'internal storage'.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] roustabout:
After my device updated, the fota setting in the database was still at manual, for what it's worth. Great to know that the symlinked build.prop truly blocks updates, even for the curious :)

Thanks for clarifying where to find 'mock locations.'

Also, there's a decent file explorer in the BN appstore now, and if you're rooted, it can show you your whole file tree. It's not as nice as root explorer, but it's free and since it's a BN app it's available as a recent app in the OS menu without dropping back to your launcher and running recent plus. I haven't tried using it to invoke to sqlite yet.

I think it's called Open Explorer.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] Taosaur:
Not sure what specs you're reading, but B&N only rate these devices for 32GB SDHC. Both the Nook Color and Nook Tablet had the same rating, though, and reportedly had no problem with 64GB SDXC cards, and I've seen third-hand reports that the same is true of the HD/HD+.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
I read that spec too that said 64GB.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] hwong96:
Go to BN developer's reference guide. It is in plain view. Updated as of Nov 16th.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
BTW, Costco thru today has the SanDisk 32GB Ultra class 10 microSD on sale for $14.99 $15.99. I picked up a few. And if we ever get CM10 on SD these should work great. I use them on my Nook Color.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] tonyp22:
I've been reading through someone0's instructions for installing the Google environment, and read that the GoogleMaps must be sideloaded, but when I downloaded the GoogleMaps.apk as provided in his link, it was saved as a ZIP file. How am I supposed to sideload that?
[Nook HD, HD+ General] Tigrisan:
Resave it as an .apk file. Or you can rename it as an .apk file. I usually copy and rename the new one, so I have XXX.zip and XXX.apk
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
He had to zip it to be able to attach it to the board. If you unzip, the apk should be inside. If he just renamed it rather than zipped it, just rename back
[Nook HD, HD+ General] tonyp22:
I think he renamed it, as when I tried to unzip it it decomposed into multiple files and directories.

BTW, do I have to use the adb shell method to run ./gapps-ics-inst.sh, or can I just copy the files to /data/su (and chmod) and execute the .sh from something like Root Explorer?
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
You can do it inside the Nook. But you need terminal emulator to run the script. Use root explorer to copy and set permissions (set the sh file to execute). Then get terminal emulator from somewhere and install it. Open it, type su enter and, after getting superuser permission, the prompt will change to #. Then CD to the /data/su folder and type ./gapps-ics-inst.sh enter. Everything should install. Reboot so gapps finishes installing by updating dalvik cache. Then you can log into play store.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] codya321:
So I am a bit confused... I used to have no problems, but now when I plug my nook hd into my pc and turn enable adb, windows acts like it is trying to mount the device over and over.... Any thoughts? this is driving me crazy
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
You need to go into your windows device manager and under USB controllers, disable the USB mass storage device. It is the drive that is only supposed to show on Macs to help them get MTP working. Sometimes in Windows it tries to open there when it shouldn't.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] tonyp22:
Thanks. Any good free terminal emulators out there?

What's weird is the Go Store app that came with GoLauncher allows me already to access Google Play, and I can buy stuff from there, but it won't install.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
Yes there is a good one on play store. And there is one that comes with CM7. Take it out of the rom.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] tonyp22:
Thanks again. Any thoughts on why the Go Store app in GoLauncher won't work the way it should? I can login, I can buy, it says it "Installed" (based on the app's web page), but I don't actually get anything installed when I try it from here.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] codya321:
I dont see a USB mass storage device option in my device manager, i tried disabling the other options... but no dice... any other thoughts?
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
What other options did you mean? You mean other devices under USB controllers? You should only disable that mass storage device if it is there. Also go to portable devices and disable the MTP driver. It may be called bnvt600.

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Don't know anything about that store. Did you enable unknown sources? Also look in /cache/download and see if any apks are there waiting to be installed.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] codya321:
Alright, so that worked.... but now i cant get abd to recognize my device? any more thoughts? i really appreciate your help
[Nook HD, HD+ General] tonyp22:
Yes, and the Amazon App Store when launched from GoLauncher works fine.

There is no /download under /cache
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
You had not said ADB stopped. You just said you had annoying popups. I went though this exhaustively with tonyp22 a few days ago. Go back and read the last 30 or 40 posts in my HD+ tips thread linked in my signature. The one that is now closed.

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Like I said, I know nothing about that store.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] dbh369:
OK, if you go to http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34168454#post34168454 and start over, you'll get adb and MTP mounts workiing. I had exactly the same symptoms, here was my solution: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34460453&postcount=90

Key points: 1) get the MTP driver to mount first and 2) use the google adb driver to get windows to recognize the device properly.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] madsquabbles:
seems this one has a screen as sensitive as the nook color's. i had some weird going on with zooming with one finger and couldn't get it to stop. then i remembered

that the nc did the same thing. seems the oils from your finger are enough to cause a "touch" and register a two finger touch. so either make a habit of wiping the screen often or get a screen protector.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] dbh369:
I can confirm that hitting the "Software" tab under Settings/Device Information and updating the software will NOT wipe root/Play access, or any application information. However, going to "System updates" and hitting check for updates may be a different thing (no updates were present when I tried...)

PS, anyone know where Verygreen or Someone0 went?
[Nook HD, HD+ General] hwong96:
PS, anyone know where Verygreen or Someone0 went?[/QUOTE]

There is no HD/HD+ forum so they cannot post developments since threads were closed by moderator. Hang tight. Remember, no ETAs.
[Nook HD, HD+ General] leapinlar:
I don't think verygreen went anywhere, he is just very busy working on CM10 on SD for us. Be patient.