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[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Really? Are you sure of this, where did you get that information from?

I have it from a very reliable source at AT&T, that they know nothing about the ICS holdups on the A2, for the US.

You do also know that there have been a whole bunch of lay offs at Motorola in the last few few weeks, right? You think that might have something to do with it?

Next time you want to say something like this, either back it up with fact, or please refrain. And that last statement goes for everyone one in here that is frustrated and posting things that are not correct. If you don't know for sure make sure then either say that, or that it is your opinion on the matter at hand.

--EDIT--

Look I totally understand the frustration, but either making things up to make yourselves feel better, or taking your frustrations out with basically slander is not a good idea, that is all I am trying to say here. Just be careful how you guys say things. Being frustrated and stating such is all well and good, but posting things that are not true or can not be backed up, is not, also slander is not cool either, especially if it is not true.

I am in no way standing up for AT&T or Motorola's decisions here, just saying that everyone should think before posting statements like these.
[Motorola Atrix 2] FluffyCow:
I should of phrased that as my opinion. From the lockdowns they supposedly wanted on the first iPhones(that apple happily supplied and then some), to other experiences I've had, makes it seem that way(only caring about making more money, not having happy customers above all). I'll take the post down if it angers you, and others, so much. Please know it wasn't a shot anyone here, or anyone they personally know.

My point and opinion was more to the effect of how come almost identical Motorola devices have ICS already, yet only the AT&T devices don't..? Kinda funny, IMO.
[Motorola Atrix 2] athani:
Will you Sir, kindly disclose your source in AT&T, so that readers here may judge its reliability themselves. Sort of like, back up with facts or refrain?!
[Motorola Atrix 2] Scrondar:
Both Moto and AT&T can bite me, but seriously, do you all think either give a rat's a** about this phone anymore? Hell, it's old, old news to them, especially in the face of the glam around the SGS 3 (and that other overpriced status symbol from Cupertino). Sorry, but the A2 is not a priority for anyone except those of us who own one and like it. I've been holding off on flashing the first leak here, mainly because I'm on stock 2.3.6 and don't want to deal with having to go back to 2.3.5, etc. Rethinking....
[Motorola Atrix 2] souljaboy:
What I heard, (and would seem logical) is that the layoffs were management/marketing/etc. related, no need for two layers of bureaucracy when you are under googles management already... I really doubt any engineers at all got laid off.

If at&t has nothing to do with it, why does the ME865 already have the first wave(s) of ota sent out?

I'm sure your friend isn't lying, but you can't know everything in a company compartmentalized like that...

Similar would go for the bootloader, but its a different subject.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
I have several times on this forum, Search... I also am under contract at att right now, and I have been very forward with my info, even though I am really not allowed, and you are more than welcome to do a search on how accurate my info has been to date.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jim-bridgman/1b/209/690
[Motorola Atrix 2] seedoubleyou:
...says the guy who got kicked off the Motorola forums for telling the mods to f' off...
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
That is because they bashed xda, and said that I could not talk about xda on the moto forum, nor about rooting or roms, or dev.
[Motorola Atrix 2] athani:
That's no good, Sir. You claimed some fact here. So you must back it up here. Nobody is bound to go on a goose-chase searching for something that you might have posted on the www. If you can't, it's ok. But your rules apply to you too? If you can't back it up, don't....

And about you getting kicked off some forum for speaking about xda, why should you be ashamed to follow the rules of the forum that you voluntarily joined? If it's against their rules, it's against their rules.
[Motorola Atrix 2] souljaboy:
For gods sake, just ignore this troll...

Its more of an achievement to get kicked off a sub-par forum, and it is a sub-par forum if you cant talk dev stuff on a mobile forum, wth...

That said, my point still stands, it has to be bureaucracy that explains the things I wrote about.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Scottyfer:
I thought he backed himself up rather well. His source shouldn't have to be revealed by name, all any of us needs to know is that it is someone/a group of people within AT&T that know what they are talking about.

Sent from my MB865 running CM10
[Motorola Atrix 2] mtnlion:
Gentlemen lets call an end to this and move on before MD has to step in. You know how grumpy he gets after cleaning threads.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
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[Motorola Atrix 2] athani:
Thanks for the post. My apologies though. Not proof of fact that you asserted. Anyway, leave it.
[Motorola Atrix 2] troycarpenter:
What I find interesting is that Moto released an OTA update for the first leak before they released an OTA update from GB to ICS.
[Motorola Atrix 2] seedoubleyou:
I think this thread is swiftly getting off-topic and into the lands of mayhem that the mods would prefer us to avoid.

I think this all stems from the frustration of us now having a multitude of half-baked and incomplete custom ROMs, or stock ROMs with too much of what none of us wants, leaving us antsy and anxious (and impatient) for what we could have based on what we see with other phones and XDA forums.

I think we have these things because we believe that if we get these things we don't have, whether it is, depending on the week, an unlocked bootloader, or an official ICS or JB ROM, everything will miraculously get worked out by the "almighty devs." This of course places unnecessary pressure and high expectations from the beggars on the "almighty devs" and leads to in some cases an inflated ego and additional frustrations from everyone.

Not to flex Buddha or anything, but if you let go of your attachment to what you don't have, your suffering goes away.

Just be content that you have a working phone. The fact that you paid money for it (as opposed to bartering hides or pooka shells) is the nature of capitalism, and the fact that you can take pictures, navigate to the store to buy another phone, or launch virtual birds at virtual walls with it is simply a nice to have.

Simply be content and be patient. Pain is real, suffering is optional. :cyclops:
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
What proof would you like? All I had said earlier to people was to stop saying things like hey this is at&t's fault with out any proof or backing it up. And you basically go and attack me. I have shown with two things now that I am on contract at at&t, so it is very likely that I can walk across a building and speak with the people who do handle the handset division, no?

I think I have backed up my information quite well. Even If I do give you the person at AT&T that I talk to about these things, do you even know who they are and how to get in touch with them at AT&T? So my point still stands, if you want to blame a company for something back it up.

This is my last post in here about this.
[Motorola Atrix 2] athani:
You Sir, are a Gentleman and a Scholar :)

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Proof or no proof.. like I already said, leave it. BTW, I never did attack you. Just asked you to follow the standards by which you measure others. Thank you. Over and out :)
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
I provided more backup in here, than anyone else has. I have been in here for 11 months now, and proven my self time and time again, and all you had to do was search here in this forum, to find my past postings, and things that have come to bear, and proof has shown itself, right here in this forum.
[Motorola Atrix 2] seedoubleyou:
I don't think there's enough time in anyone's life to read through the search results for 'jimbridgman' where you talk about your work experience...

As I have said in other threads, short of being a master of Boolean logic strings, XDAs search is hardly effective for exactly what you need with what most call "simple" search terms.
[Motorola Atrix 2] souljaboy:
Jim, he's/they're not gonna stop if you don't, its a virtual gangbang going on here.. :D
[Motorola Atrix 2] seedoubleyou:
now there's something else that you can't expect to punch into google and expect a pleasant and reliable result :D
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Thanks, I am done at this point. if there are anymore posts in here on this subject, I will just PM MD and prbassplayer, this is now way out of hand.

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That is not my fault, just saying that there is more proof of my past history here in this forum than anyone can shake a stick at.
[Motorola Atrix 2] zephxiii:
I have a hard time seeing that. To me it's more of a resources and priorities thing at Motorola....they were the ones that never went on with the soak....
[Motorola Atrix 2] mtnlion:
Two words for Motorola's development department...... out source.
[Motorola Atrix 2] seedoubleyou:
BTW Jim, I just called your office there and told them that I was you, gave them your user id, and that I was locked out of my account. They went ahead and reset your password for me.

(just kidding)

You may want to delete this since its a moot point.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
No, no worries, it is just that things here, get posted as fact all the time, and since this is writing and NOT speech, it can be hard to tell when some one is 100% serious, sarcastic, frustrated, etc.

If just seemed as if you believed it was fact, and it had seemed that others were also posting this same sort of thing, too, so I thought I would clear it up a little. I was not really upset, just wanting everyone to realize that there are several things at play here. And think about it, Motorola has yet to release the soak itself, yet, why would at&t stop Motorola from something like that, when they have already approved the software.

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Yeah good luck with that, att security is pretty hardcore, and you have to give a voice sample to have your password changed.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
That's funny. :silly: Though, I think if Jim wanted to protect his identity he likely would have done so beforehand, and now that his contact card has been quoted, it's definitely a mute point to try and erase it.

I work with AT&T for my own business, though I have nothing on the level that Jim has as far as his 'insider' info, I still hold his knowledge paramount over others (no offense guys).

Can we all just stop questioning "who knows what" and "why" and so on? We're all getting a bit ramped up all over again. It must be that AT&T/Moto high tide that gets us all acting like 'tards.

Seriously though, let's stop the bickering -I've already gotten my share of conflict today, and am urging you all to keep MD out of this. We're better than this guys, so let's make amends and keep going forward as a community, not as a redneck backwoods divided family. There's no need in assuming either a Hatfield or McCoy alliance here, we're all in this together...
[Motorola Atrix 2] seedoubleyou:
must suck if you have a hangover, head cold, or crappy AT&T phone connection...the irony... probably about as effective (or helpful) as face recognition...

they still probably wouldn't appreciate tripping upon your user information on a forum known for the "darker side" of development.... just sayin'
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
That contact card could've been created by anyone. No sensitive information is on there, only the AT&T corporate address in Dallas, Texas (anyone could find that) and a user alias (whether that's the real on or not).

But, we seem to be veering off path here -again.

There's still 6 more days in quarter 3, just sayin'...
[Motorola Atrix 2] seedoubleyou:
The word is 'MOOT' , not mute( sorry, pet peeve)... and I erased my screen cap out of courtesy once I saw that the OP read mine... out of courtesy..
[Motorola Atrix 2] FluffyCow:
If the soak violated what AT&T wants, since the a2 is an AT&T handset, theoretically they could block it depending on the terms of the moto AT&T contract.

That said, #$%& it, I'm ICSing tonight. Screw em all, love the devs. ;)
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Motorola would never have been able to send out the soak invites as they had done, if AT&T had not approved of the software in advance, as had been done, from what I understand of the situation.

Just make sure you ONLY install leak #1 and DO NOT accept any OTA while on ICS!
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
My pet peeve is when people smack when chewing their food. I guess we all have our quarks.

Also, I've had enough to drink today to kill a small army, so forgive the flying fingers. It's a three day weekend for me...
[Motorola Atrix 2] seedoubleyou:
Nor worries at all, and I raise my soon to be glass (in an hour or so) to you sir... For making a Monday what it should be!

Also... to remain on topic,...in my opinion, AT&T and Googlerola are the epitome of an oversubscribed network with too many users and not enough worker bees to keep up with the quality of service that their users demand. I believe it is prioritization and long-term wins. We are but a small pitiful band of rebels in the eyes of the empire...
[Motorola Atrix 2] souljaboy:
Have you guys seen this engadget post ?

Apparently, Punit Soni, VP of Product Management at Motorola Mobility, whos been in office for 4 weeks, got flooded with requests about the bionic ics on his g+, caved in soon, and that should be why a day later the sept. 22nd update on the well known update roadmap happened, with even the design getting changed, the bionic getting a release date of Q4, and the a2 Q3 date getting vanished altogether. Read up on the g+ page for more.

I'd say this is the way to go... it seems to me, they have good intentions, but are having difficulties deciding whats in demand and whats not...
[Motorola Atrix 2] zephxiii:
Yep, that's what started it all and i think part of the problem is that I don't think the amount of AT&T A2 users is all that huge...hence we got to make noise.
[Motorola Atrix 2] hankbizzo5:
:silly:
[Motorola Atrix 2] ajsedlacek:
I think this is the case. I don't think the Atrix 2 did all that well in terms of overall sales. It was released 10 months after the Atrix 4g and the Atrix HD was released 9-10 months after the Atrix 2.

I don't know how they are setup within MotoFail but most companies have all of the models of a particular product lines development handled by the same team. All the Atrix's handled by one team, all the Razor's by another, Droid's with the next, so on and so forth. With this you have 3 phones that were released within 18 months of each other that need support and maintenance/updates.

Could be an explanation as to why the HD had an OTA within 30 days of being released.
[Motorola Atrix 2] RoadToNever:
Maybe, but going by the total amount of xda post we're about equal to Bionic. Now factor in that the Bionic was released 9 months earlier...

I'm not saying we need ICS more than Bionic owners just that we shouldn't feel more any more intimidated to make noise.
[Motorola Atrix 2] prbassplayer:
So enough. Thread locked. Info is there for those of you that want to read it, so much derailing....
[HTC ChaCha] leyz86:
Hey guys,

I was very delighted and surprised to find the dialer bug in battery usage is gone after an OTA update minutes ago.

Updated software number: 1.57.861.4, stock rom.

So thankful that htc hasn't abandoned this phone. I can't wait to check my screen on time after the latest fix!! Did you guys get the same?
[HTC ChaCha] afeudale:
Good news! Which carrier did you get the OTA update from?
[HTC ChaCha] AotoImi:
If someone have this RUU of this update, share it please, i'm need it

p/s: sr for my english :(
[HTC ChaCha] tokafondo:
Can it be made a flashable .zip or a .apk from that?

That would benefit everyone and not only phones from certain carriers.
[HTC ChaCha] jporch316:
Whay country / carrier are you in?
[HTC ChaCha] samyangel:
No body get the same as yours. Where did you find it?
[HTC ChaCha] quince2001:
I'm in the UK - and have not received this update. How did you obtain it please ?
[HTC ChaCha] stayfidz:
OP is dead?
[LG Nitro HD] julienlefebvre1981:
ok

1- i brick my phone

2- i restore it using uptestx_mod2 etc....

3- phone working

4- i brick my phone a second time (probably because of unbloating some crappy apps)

5- this time uptestx didnt work i get the "check your connection" message

6- lg update tool give me the same answer it seem something is blocking Lg software to access internet

7- at boot i got security error message or the fastboot message

the first time i brick my phone to restoring it i follow this tutorial: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1412367

need help please

thx
[LG Nitro HD] julienlefebvre1981:
ok i was following this guide: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1597488 and now i am running the ****ty korean rom

now where im stuck is when i run superoneclick the program freeze at rooting device step#7 :(

should i try another rooting program ??

network card dont seem to work too so wifi not working and data too........

unlockroot.2.3.1.exe seem to have worked... i can see the supersu icon now

but wifi and data still dont seem to work..... is there any way to install an apk file (rom manager) without a file explorer ??? i mean i got the apk on my computer then copy them to sdcard but if i cant go to playstore downloading a file manager im screw ??? no ???
[LG Nitro HD] julienlefebvre1981:
installing apk without market: http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/install-file-manager-android-market/
[LG Nitro HD] Swetnes:
All you have to do is follow the rest of the unbrick guide to push the original att rom onto the phone reboot. Now you are in att's original gb rom. From there install rom manager from the market to install cwm. Then you are good to go to install any P930 compatible rom.
[LG Nitro HD] julienlefebvre1981:
i wish network card will work...
[LG Nitro HD] Swetnes:
Not sure what you mean by network card? On the computer? Sim? Have you used adb on your computer to push boot, firmware, baseband, and system.img files from at&t? If you haven't that will solve all your problems.
[LG Nitro HD] julienlefebvre1981:
i dont know why but phone is rebooting everytime i plug usb cable from computer....
[LG Nitro HD] julienlefebvre1981:
yeah i got it :highfive:
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andy_nu:
I cant sign into gtalk through my phone aokp b1 It was working until we had that sign in issue and now i dont get the glowing signal bars. Anything i can do without deleting my data and starting over? ive tried clearing caches in cwm but still no luck, also removed gapps manually and clearing data then reflashing gapps.

EDIT: backed up everything but gapps with titanium backup and reflashed. works fine now.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mumsawitch:
Just a little background..

I bought this SG Note last April and I haven't rooted it yet because it still has its warranty. I upgraded it to ICS when it came out here in the Philippines and I have issues with ICS because it often overheats when I talk to someone on the phone and when I charge it. I don't have that problem with GB.

Anyway, I recently went to Samsung's service center to get it checked because I had other problems with it (it's fixed now, thank god). I told them about the battery which drains very fast. They replaced it with a new one last Wednesday. I don't have any problems with it anymore.

Here's the problem, I charged my phone last night and when I woke up this morning, it stopped charging because apparently it was TOO hot. I didn't charge it again until now. The problem is, it charges so freaking slow. I charged it at 6pm (with 43% battery) and when I check up on it at 8pm, it went up by 1%. What seems to be the problem?

It's still plugged in since 6pm and it's now 11pm here with 80% battery. Ugh. What's the problem :crying:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] R@J$3K#@R:
Are you using the original charger?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] letters_to_cleo:
first..if your on stock ICS... don't compare your experience when your with stock GB and with ICS, because there are too many reports (unaccounted though), that ICS pretty much sucks on the battery side thing.

Anyway, I bet your in stock kernel right?, try to see if you can flash a custom one. Usually heating problems has two sides of the coin.

Either:

1. You have a defective charger

2. It's time for you to explore other realms of possibilities, e.g. root, flashing a custom rom (for better UI and performance) and a custom kernel to handle your charging issues. There are custom kernels that helps voltages and keep your phone charged up fast.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mumsawitch:
Yes and no. I used the original charger earlier but seeing that it was charging so slow, I used my Huawei's charger

If I rooted my phone, that will void the warranty. Are there any other alternatives?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] R@J$3K#@R:
Try to use the original charger

Using other chargers can even damage your battery

And even though you root your phone and void your warranty,once you flash a stock rom and reset flash counter,you will get back your warranty
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] letters_to_cleo:
rooting your phone will void your warranty BUT Samsung is only keen in checking your binary counter (if it's raised to 1 or highter)... After rooting, you can flash ChainFire's TriangleAway App to restore your counter back to 0.

Other alternatives than rooting, is first.. buy an original charger and go from there.. Drain your phone down to 5% and charge it back again till it's full and observe if it's going to be hot again. Simple as that.

Also, if you have other wall outlets, do also try to use other ones. Who knows maybe the one your using your phone to charge on to, might be close to being short circuited, and henceforth that might fry your phone in the long run. See if there are other wall outlets in your house you can use to charge your phone WITH a brand new charger.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mumsawitch:
I see. Will use Samsung's charger again.

I'll still weigh in my options in rooting my phone. I'm too scared. I might brick it.

Will still think about rooting it. Too scared. LOL

Okay, that opened my eyes to something. Will do that.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] R@J$3K#@R:
Try flashing hydracore kernel

You will be automatically rooted and thats a safe kernel

You can even move to any other roms from this kernel directly
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mumsawitch:
Is there a thread here somewhere about hydracore?

I want to know more about it from people who used this.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Viper2005:
-make sure that you're not only using the original charger, but that you are using the original micro usb cable. The note can detect if you are not using Google an original cable and slow down charging.

-is the replacement battery a Samsung battery or a third party one?

-depending on how hot the battery got the first time, it may have damaged the battery and thus affect the charging.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] R@J$3K#@R:
Here it is

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1749863
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mumsawitch:
- Yeah, I'm using the original charger with the original micro usb cable.

- Yeah, the replacement battery is an original Samsung battery.

- I'm scared of that. Damn