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[Nexus 7 Android Development] syzkk:
thanks for the answer, however I switched to Franco last night, and this morning its dead again. Will test a bit more to see how it goes...
[Nexus 7 Android Development] george241312:
hey any1 know whats the FASTEST kernel ...
[Nexus 7 Android Development] vn00914361:
There is no fastest kernel
[Nexus 7 Android Development] smt8544:
In terms of synthetic benchmarks, I find the fastest kernel to be _motley's along with the remounted partition and fsync off to boost IO. I haven't used any other kernel personally but _motley's seems to be highly regarded.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Tired of the Bull:
I've had no problems with wake or battery drain since switching to Franco. How did you flash the kernel, through the Aroma installer or from the Franco app?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] syzkk:
I use Franco app
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Tired of the Bull:
Motley certainly rules the benchmarks. Unfortunately, many (myself and this ROM's developer included) have had lagging and just general responsiveness issues in apps and games with motley. There is also a wake problem with the Bricked kernel. So as a general rule I'd suggest that everyone try a couple different kernels in the apps they use everyday and compare for themselves. I have seen a huge disconnect between benchmark and real world performance.

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I did as well and I've had no wake or battery problems since the switch to Franco. I'm not sure what other factors could cause your battery drain problem except a rogue app that is keeping the tablet active while not in use. If the problem continues you may want to switch to the stock kernel to test and see if the problem is the kernel or an app.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jamesst20:
This ^ :)

Yep mothley has good benchmarks but bad usability :/ not smooth at all

Bricked it the smoothest kernel I ever used but has this wake issue sometimes :( But in my case I will keep using it since it doesn't happen often and all I got to do is to hold power 15 sec and it will reboot

Franco is the second smoothest kernel and then come third faux123. Trinity and mothley = Good benchmarks, not smooth
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Digi421:
I am facing a similar problem, also with Kindle. I open the app, download a book but when I click on it to read it, the app just closes. There's no message about ANR or anything, it just closes. Happens with every book. Worth noting that this only happened after the last OTA upgrade to 3.1 - it worked fine in 3.0.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] _Johnito_:
Thanks for this ROM ! I tried it for just a day and it features a lot of the best stuff. However i have to admit i am nowhere near the expected stats ... I tried with stock, motley and Bricked kernel and my device never scores more than 4170 points overall. I had the best results with SmoothROM + Motley. With stock rom and kernel, it does indeed score approx. 3600 points as expected. Am I doing anything wrong or is it just something i dont get ?

The strangest result is about I/O. Mine is 1895 when i see the optimized one on your quandrant test is ... more than 7000 ! I also have a sensible difference in CPU: 12530 while yours is 15139. In the test, my SmoothROM + Motley hardly beats the Asus Transformer Prime.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Tired of the Bull:
Something is definitely wrong somewhere. My numbers with no tweaks using Franco kernel are:

Total: 4882

CPU: 12310

Mem: 3200

I/O: 6009

2D: 249

3D: 2444

I read somewhere about a cause for poor I/O scores on some units. Let me see if I can find the info.

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Ok, a couple things to do, start by checking your free space. There is a reported I/O lag if free space falls too low (below 3g I think) then try installing the Franco kernel and setting fsync to off.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] SquireSCA:
Don't worry too much about Quadrant scores. My HTC EVO 4G LTE blows my Nexus 7 out of the water across the board in that benchmark, and the Nexus is running this ROM and Frano's R18 kernel. The Nexus wins by a good amount in CPU, but then gets crushed by the phone in every other catagory...

So I wouldn't put too much credence in Quadrant. I don't even know if it can use the quad-core capability of this tablet. Antutu seems a little more reliable.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
God help me but I don't see the expanded desktop button on the power menu. I saw Navigation and Status Bar controls, disabled them, still not working for MX Player and doesn't fill in for default. Maybe he changed it?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jamesst20:
Well the nav bar issue is wheter caused because your in Tablet UI mode (give a try to Phablet and tell me if it works) or the player itself.

For the scrolling, it only depends of the apps, some browsers have scrolling optimised some not (Try Opera or Boat Browser, they have very good scrolling in what I remember). It also depends a bit of the kernel, you can try switching
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
Haha. Reverted it back to Phablet UI. Nailed it.

Everything works fine with it. Tablet UI is really beautiful and easy to use, but I'm planning to stick with Phablet for now. It needs some updates. :)

If the developer updates the ROM, I get a notification right? Or do I have to re download the ROM and flash again, without wiping?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ggp759:
Flashed custom recovey to a wifi nexus 7 and then the latest version of this rom with motley kernel. Stuck at the android guy with the light going around him. Any help please?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jamesst20:
Np and yeah Tablet UI support was left by Google. Developers had to fix thousands things to get it to work but it is still not perfect but great enough for a daily use I believe.

If there is an update available, Goo Manager will notify you ;) and for wiping, it is very recommended since there are a lot of changes every updates and most of the time, previous settings gets broken by dirty flashing because they have different layout in updates, etc. :P

I bet your earphones are the Apple's one?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jamesst20:
Tips : Do not dirty flasj

Tips 2 : JROMFlasher

Tips 3 : Hold Power + Volume Down for about 16sec
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
By your wording it seems that you did it the hard way. Boot into recovery mode and wipe. Then use JROMFlasher.

Don't do it yet though. Just an attempt to help, I am also new. Better find someone reliable :D
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ggp759:
how can i boot from this bootloop to recovery?

edit: sorry for the post found it.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
Thank God! Yeah, I switched to Phablet UI. You're gonna fix the tablet UI next update right? :)

I have Boat installed, well, for Flash purposes. Opera seems promising, I'll try using it for a week.

Just a question, based on the compliments and praises on this thread, which is the smoothest, stable and has good battery life?

Cause me too, I think I only have 5 hours usage of my tablet, doing all gaming, movies, xda and surfing. Is that normal?

Thanks in advance!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
Power and volume buttons, hold Em like jamesst20 told you a couple posts back
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
[MENTION=4469201]jamesst20[/MENTION]

How did you know that? :D

Ahh damn so this shtty Apple earphones was the reason all along. I like it's build quality and color. But if it collides with my device then I'm exchanging it for some good wireless ones.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
Depends on rom, kernel, settings and useage. This rom is great. You said you watch a lot of videos and play a lot of games, so useage is really high. So that leaves you with 2 things left on the list you can control. Try some different Kernels until you find what works best for you. And settings, research, try settings and or mods/tweaks to dial in your device for optimum performance. You will ALWAYS have to compromise on some things. It's the eternal struggle better performance OR better battery life. You gotta find what works best for you.

Cheers
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
Hmm.. right. I should be testing Kernels once my computer gets fixed.

I'm starting to think though that it may be my device or charger since, like, when this was new, I could use and play while charging, and the battery gets charged. Now, even when it's charged it's just slowing down consumption. Not even maintaining it at its current charge.

And sometimes I charge it powered off, the battery charge barely increases. Haha.

Since I unlocked the bootloader no warranty for me. Oh well, I don't regret anything. This is still the best Android experience I ever had, thanks to this ROM.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
I'm glad it's all coming together for ya!!

Cheers
[Nexus 7 Android Development] numus:
Still trying to figure out why my nexus 7 randomly freezes and locks up...
[Nexus 7 Android Development] savagehax:
Smooth ROM is flawless on my 7!!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jamesst20:
Well I only tested one pair of earphone on my nexus 7 ( dont listen music on it :P ) and my SystemUI kept crashing when I was trying to change volume and It happens that the only one I used on it are the Apple new earpods and nobody ever complained about this issue so I guessed it was the earphone itself that was incompatible ;)
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
The V4A audio MOD will make you WANT to listen to music on your N7.....or pretty much any other Android device. It is truly amazing! And did music television when I was living in Austin, TX, so I know a thing or two about sound! Just don't use those Apple ear buds! Lol :p
[Nexus 7 Android Development] dummy1001:
Hi,

I am using this Rom and I am more than happy. I tried PA and Prime Directive before but SmoothROM is definitely my preferred one!

Note I gave my grouper to my wife and have a 3G for myself. Is there a possibility that I can use this Rom for my 3G? I am thinking of using this Room and adding baseband. Off this is possible, where could I find the how to?

Thank you for any advise!

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
So I flashed Stock. Apparently it was lagging. Takes at least 1 second to go to recent apps, and scrolling through my app drawer is not as smooth.

I tried LeanKernel. Seems to be at stable and perfect for me. One problem I also had on Franco was downloading apps on the Play Store. I was downloading Iron Man 3 : The Official Game. I was around 46 percent and then it'd just stop moving. I checked the download progress and it seems to be stuck.

I hope I will be able to download it this time. And I'll flash the mod you gave me now. :D
[Nexus 7 Android Development] bjazz69:
I seen in an earlier thread that someone had a problem getting there nexus 7 to read a USB drive but there seem to be no response for a solution since updating to 5.1 I can no longer read my USB drive any ideas would be appreciated
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jamesst20:
USB works perfectly ---> it will be broken if you did a dirty flash
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
+1 no usb issues here either!! :D
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
Is wiping cache & dalvik only considered as dirty flash?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] bjazz69:
Clean install when inserting USB drive I get a notification preparing USB storage but I can not search an files on the USB I am using solid explorer. When I remove the drive I get removed USB storage the indicator led on the USB drive blinks when it is inserted just can't read it from app. When clicking on mount usb in settings nothing happens. The drive works in my s3
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
Yeah.... The MOST important factory reset. They're all lined in recovery, any recovery.... but you don't even gotta worry about all that if you use the jromflasher2 ;) which is EXACT the reason it was developed, to make life easier for everyone involved (both you as well as the Dev)

Cheers

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I finally have ran into a bug, but I'm pretty sure it's a known one. It's having to do with tablet mode. I really love it and have been trying to get used to it habitually since the N7 is a tablet. The issue I have had a few times now is a double clock/day display in the nav bar. It only seems to happen when the N7 goes to sleep. I will try and get you a screenshot if it would help. I know the tablet mode is still being ironed out. Jamesst20 what do you think about the patch for tablet mode? I don't want to go that route, but if it's a solid option........ Just lookin for some feedback.

Thank you!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
I think it's my turn to help. ;)

Go to ROM Control, Clock, then Clock Style. Make it Right clock. I made it center the first time, and turned out my clock got doubled so I had to check clock settings. And it was fixed.

Well if it's already on Right then I'm pretty sure I'm not much of help, well you gotta do the same. Switch to Phablet. Haha.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] sus4ntoh:
Which kernel you are using? I had the same problem with Franco kernel even though with clean flash using James' tool. In the end I settle with motley kernel.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] TonyG916:
google apps included in the rom download?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] bjazz69:
That did the trick thanks
[Nexus 7 Android Development] HKSpeed:
Edit: never mind. I resolved my problem by installing nova launcher
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
Thank you Sir, that did the trick! I do appreciate it.

Cheers,
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Spacemonkie4207:
V4A?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2191223

Viper 4 Android....... Check it out, it's a game changer for sure!!!!

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Is there a way to get the alarm to show in the status/nav bar while using tablet mode? I was able to in Phablet, and I double checked the settings and that option is still ticked, however it's not showing.

Thanks
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
Considering the fact that Google left tablet UI, our only resort for tablet UI are the skilled developers who are familiar with Android's build. I don't know why they left it though, it looks promising to me. Except on portrait. Hehe.

You might want to request our master [MENTION=4469201]jamesst20[/MENTION] to fix that.

And oh, just a report. MX Player seems to be buggy with the navbar, even on Phablet. Usually you have to press anywhere so the pause, previous, next etc. buttons would appear but it's being covered by the navbar. I have to raise brightness so it appears, or hide the navbar using the power menu. :)

Maybe it's AOKP's fault this time. Just kidding. I hope they fix these issues, or probably reverse engineer stock ROM and look into these issues without compromising performance.

And also, about the battery life, it got pretty good now. I didn't know I had to adjust brightness in recovery mode. And charging + watching at the same time seems fine now. :D

I really thought of flashing CM10.1 first cause it was getting pretty famous, but I went here on xda instead and checked the "best ROM for Nexus 7" official thread. SmoothROM pretty much dominated. I can see why. Keep up the good work sir!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jamesst20:
AOKP offers more feature over Cyanogen and nobody is looking for Tablet UI compatibility on their side. In older version, SmoothROM was based of CM and I had to fix tons of things to get the Tablet UI to work :P
[Nexus 7 Android Development] meazz1:
Few months ago I rooted my little girl's nex 7 who is 6 yrs old. It was running different ROm and she was not happy with it. All she could tell me that she did not like her tablet after I had rooted it. She could not tell me what exactly she did not like, given her age I just knew she did not her the new UI.

Anyway, I installed SmoothROM last night on her tablet and all her games. This morning when I asked if she likes the new UI, she for the first time after it has been rooted few months ago, told me she really likes it.

Thanks for the ROM!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
From the mouths of battery babe's! There's nothing on the planet like the honest non - biased sincerity of a child. Thanks for sharing that!

Cheers
[Nexus 7 Android Development] justmiike:
After using this for a few months and using the Motely kernel, I am very impressed.

Battery life is stunning. I used it to read and to browse around the net and played a few games on and off in about 5-6 hours, from 100% it went to 75%. That's amazing. I have over-clocked it to 1.6 as well.

Loving the long battery life.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] savagehax:
I'd like to over clock mine as well. My only concern is how bad is that for the device. I over clock my PC but it's a much bigger beast with a nice heat sink.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] justmiike:
It's normally set to 1.3, so setting to 1.6 is seen to be stable and I haven't seen any reports as of yet that it does damage the device.

Like with all things, it would shorten its life, but we're talking about several years here.

As long as you leave the minimum alone and only over-clocking the maximum, it will be fine.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
Hey [MENTION=5020091]rydog66[/MENTION]!

So I flashed the 4cyl turbo thingy using TWRP. My problem is that I forgot that it needs the battery to be at 100 percent (cause it calibrates the battery) before flashing, but I flashed it with 70~.

Aand battery life pretty much became horrible. Charging even with my device powered off is very slow

My fault. I backed up data and boot. I wiped the system, and re-flashed the ROM. Then I restored data. Do you think the changes made by the mod is gone?

Although, my battery life is still pretty bad, well, I haven't given it a rest since I started customizing my Nexus 7 for the good. It was charging almost 24/7. I hope that fixes it.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
You're good. Your device will straighten itself out with a cycle or two of normal use/charging. Don't panic.... It's not gonna blow up lol. Do you notice any difference n performance?? I install/run entropy, init.d, buildprop scripts and turn off logcat. I'm happy as hell! That is the only tweak I use. For a while I was also using CrossBreeder, but Exit_Only added some stuff like entropy support so I streamlined to the one mod. That plus this SmoothRom & Viper 4 Android and I'm good! Great performance, uber-smooth, great battery, looks & sounds awesome!! :thumbup::cool::thumbup:
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
Yeah it seemingly got faster, but I haven't entered any commands yet.

Do I need to make the battery to like, 10 percent? Well I don't see the good battery part here, unless those commands will make it like that. I really hope it straightens itself out. I'll drain the battery and let it rest for a while.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
You don't need to do anything special for the battery. There are only 2 real commands you need to run, and maybe change the entropy value from its default moderate...... I bump mine to aggressive. That's your call tho. rambooster and 4cylturbo are all you really need. We should change threads or PM tho outta respect if we continue this conversation.

My apologies jamesst20 for getting off topic in your world.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
Hmm.. yea. But that'd be a good idea, he can actually include it in the Aroma installer as an option for more performance. What do you think, [MENTION=4469201]jamesst20[/MENTION]?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
I know jamesst20 already bakes in some of is own tweaks, but they all play nice with NOS. However Exit_Only's packages evolve at such a ridiculously rapid pace, some people don't get it. For a lot of people they just plain cannot keep up. Lol
[Nexus 7 Android Development] :
This is the first ROM I've ever flashed. It works AWESOMELY smooth!

Anyway, when I want to use one of the stock wallpapers, my navigation- and my taskbar are transparent. I don't want them to do so. When playing a game they're not transparent anymore, but it's still annoying.

How do I turn this off?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Azure Dragon:
Me too, and it's also awesomely smooth here!

Go to Settings, ROM Control, then General UI. Tap on Transparency Settings. Adjust to desired settings.

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[MENTION=5020091]rydog66[/MENTION]

Nevermind my PM. I realized it wasn't installed now after wiping system and reflashing. Using android terminal emulator. :)
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Spacemonkie4207:
Hello everyone :)

Smoothrom has been so stable so I haven't been to the nexus 7 firms in quite a while. I'm currently on Franco kernel bit I find it had issues with WIFI randomly disconnecting, which kernel is most stable do you guys find?

Thanks again for the great ROM

Sent from me
[Nexus 7 Android Development] :
Thanks, that was the only thing I disliked about this ROM. Fixed it!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Adinaky:
I personally use the M-Kernel, which is perfect for me. I find it very stable, it works very well and I never had any problems with the WiFi. You may have some problems with 3g disconnecting (of course only if you're a 3g user), but the dev is working on it. Give it a try! Maybe you'll find it as good as I did.

P.S.: If a54 is not stable enough, then try a53, which is one of the most stable.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] gsw5700:
Try motley, rock solid.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Spacemonkie4207:
Seems like kernel is personal preference.

Sent from me
[Nexus 7 Android Development] guyd:
Using Motley here, and I'm completely satisfied!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] savagehax:
The thing I want to use motley for would be to over clock. However I have tried to find extensive information on how harmful it really is to our device. For instance I over clock my GNex but I know that it started out to be like a 1.5ghz CPU they just factory under clocked it for stability and battery. I'm unsure of the 7. But I would love to new rocking like 1.5 on the 7. Any info on how harmful it could be to the device? I'm sorry in advance if this is a question that has been asked a thousand times. Just really curious.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Pdj7969:
I have to say that this is by far my favorite N7 ROM thus far. I was using CM10.1 nightlies for awhile but that got boring. I then jumped on Dirty AOKP for awhile, then switched to Dirty RootBox when development stalled on the former, but grew tired of random force closes and performance issues. I was going to give Paranoid Android a shot when I found this one. I have to say, after 3 weeks, I have no complaints. A couple quirks here and there, but it is running flawlessly and is reinforcing my decision to go with the N7 over other tablets. Thank you so much for all the work you do!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] p4rot:
Is it me or this ROM is the most popular for the nexus 7?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] savagehax:
Don't know if it is most popular but it wins in my book.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] TheAtheistReverend:
Agreed.

Using Motley, not a care in the world. Smooth as butter. Battery lasts me long time.

Tried CM10 CM10.1 Rasbean Paranoid and a couple others.

Ever since the base change to AOKP, I can not imagine a better rom than this one.

How'd he get it so damn FINE?!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
This rom works for N7 3G now?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Adinaky:
Well, I forgot about that, I was only talking about the kernel. I'll remember it next time.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rydog66:
YESSIR it is. I have tried several but settled on Motley. I have had no issues at all & find it a good mix of battery life and performance.

Cheers