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[HTC Droid DNA] retepdgp:
Whoa... Where did I say HTC is my favorite company? Just because a simple "Love HTC" comment is in there now way implies it's my favorite company. I just think, at this point, the good definitely outweigh the bad.

Edit: If you based your phone choice on reviews, why did you end up getting the Rezound? The Razr and Galaxy Nexus (Owned Both) were reviewed way better than the Rezound.
[HTC Droid DNA] Squirrel1620:
Sorry, to clarify. I was saying htc was my favorite.

I don't like the screen of the razr, and at the time it was locked down. And the nexus, well I love it I just don't like aosp. And the camera isn't as good as the rezound. I love sense too much otherwise I would probably have the nexus in my hands. I've had a chance with the sgs3, wonderful phone, I would prefer that if I could afford one atm.
[HTC Droid DNA] retepdgp:
I thought the Nexus was a great phone, but I had terrible reception and could never get a solid 4G connection where both the Rezound and Razr never had a problem with. Also, like you mentioned, AOSP eventually gets boring. It's not fun to have 10 different ROMs that are all basically the same thing. I was tempted to get the SGS3, but since I have to pay the non subsidized price, I figured I'd wait for the New HTC phone.
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
I've always been a sucker for sense and HTC phones. I'll be for sure getting this one.
[HTC Droid DNA] texascfdad:
Voice and data is not possible on Verizon 3g. Just like if you had a 3g only phone. The only way its possible is with a 4g connection. So if you re in a 3g only area (like I usually am) it won't work, you have to have a 4g connection to use it. Its not the phone, just the way the cdma network is designed.
[HTC Droid DNA] Argumentation:
Actually, the rez and the thunderbolt can both do voice and data on 3G, due to them having 2 cell modems, one on the snapdragon SoC and one stand-alone chip. :good:
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
I've done voice and data on 3G numerous times
[HTC Droid DNA] dragonrazorz:
Yea me too 0_o
[HTC Droid DNA] LakerStar25:
Yep same here my Thunderbolt did my Rezound does and even my S3 can. I use it often.

Sent from my Sense 4 ICS Rezound
[HTC Droid DNA] kiint:
"Aside from the battery issue will anyone still be interested in buying this phone??? "

I was going to, until I read this:

"According to HTC Source, the phablet will not have a removable battery nor will users have access to a memory card slot to augment storage. Users will be capped with 16 GB of internal storage and will likely have to rely on cloud storage for additional storage."

Good news everyone! Lets make an awesome device and then cripple it in numerous ways!
[HTC Droid DNA] funnyangrykid:
see, there lies the problem. Having Capped Storage making us rely more on Cloud Storage but the Data you use with your phone is ALSO capped. i think they should have Unlimited Everything and only pay like 75 (Shoot i'll even say 95) for the plan. No cancellation fee. seeing how Verizon has the best Speeds, then the more customers they'll attract which equals more money for those greedy meanies. Just tryna say, they can do better than this. Unless they're planning to sell more phablets like Apple products with there 16 gig 32 gig and 64 gig but will also include an external SD Slot.
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
Well if storage is capped at 16 gigs their sells are going to suck unless it's going to be priced reaallllly low. I have almost that much used on my phone and I have no music on it at all
[HTC Droid DNA] texascfdad:
I stand Corrected
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
Lololololololol

I literally laughed out loud at your Utopian view of how Verizon should offer plans...that was cute ;)

We all know Verizon exists solely to screw customers and rip them off as hard as possible.
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
They are too concerned with money, instead of making happy customers.

They should be glad they have the best network, it is the only reason I stay.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
yeah, thing is, they don't care about like that one person, for example, you, ya know? so if you switched to sprint or something, they wouldn't care, because they'd boast that they have 2398428934823894239842983 other customers with like 298348929843 new activations daily..when a company gets that big, they don't give a fart.
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
Yup.

Darn you Verizon and your awesome network!!!!
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
I know its less than ideal, but I think its very likely that if its a badass phone running nice software, it could have very high sales figures with no external storage. XDA members make up a tiny percentage of sales for a manufacturer, the majority of their sales will go to people who will walk into a store and look at the phones, and don't have a clue what the specs mean as they shake their head and hear the sales pitch, pretending to know what they're talking about. When an associate says "It's got four times more internal memory than the phone you've been using for a year. There's really no need for an external sd card, lots of phones don't have them, and that's just a place to collect dirt and cause glitches anyway," that's all a lot of people need to hear, especially if they saw a commercial showing off some cool unique feature and walk in the store wanting to be convinced its a good phone.

I do think XDA members matter not because of their own phones but because if they are a geek or think they're a geek, the people around them come to them for advice when buying a phone.

I really hope it has an sd card, but I don't think lacking an SD card means it will be a flop and won't sell. It's very easy to convince the public that internal memory only is a feature instead of something negative. Look how many people spend money on Android anti virus software, and in that case it wreaks havoc on battery life, UI speed, available RAM, places a hideous icon in the status bar, etc.

If its a flagship device, ideally it needs to have a portion of its sales come from iPhone owners who are switching over from Android. Convincing users who havent had sd cards to buy a phone with internal storage only shouldnt be too hard.

Anywho, I think for the general public what the phone has effects sales more than what it doesn't have. Hell, people buy phones just because it has "beats" lmao
[HTC Droid DNA] killahrey:
i will say 16gb seems a bit low. Though i really could care less. I don't use much memory on my phone. I never had a problem using only the internal storage on the rez, which was also 16gb (more like 11gb though). hopefully there will also be a 32gb version. regardless, this is my next phone.

I already do use the cloud as my primary storage, google music for my music, and pictures/video i have instant uploaded onto my 50gb dropbox. If i download a video which is usually never i delete it right after, i mean who watches the same episode/movie twice on even a weekly or monthly basis? all my other forms of entertainment wouldn't even take up 100mb, maybe the occasional game but once i beat the game, app data is backed up to dropbox via titanium backup.

if you aren't using some form of cloud by now you aren't the buyer htc is targeting. i sure am.
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
Even if it is an awesomely spek't phone no one will even know about it anyway. Yay bad advertising. Everyone will wait for the next best thing or already have an S3 lol
[HTC Droid DNA] ANDR0lD:
Just putting this out there....any storage that I have on my 32GB SD card could be put on my Internal easily with some space to spare.

Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[HTC Droid DNA] ANDR0lD:
On a different note.. http://htcsource.com/2012/10/global...irms-the-existence-of-the-htc6435lvw-htc-dlx/

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[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
32 gigs :'(:'(:'( pplllzzz lol. But then its not gonna have s-off forever probably or aosp :'(:'(:'( by that time maybe we'll see a 1080p nexus from HTC lol.

Has there been anything on GPU yet? The adreno 320? Why not make the front cam 5mp and have 2mb of ram? :D
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
2mb?? That's like 1980's status :p
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
:eek: I was thinking mp still :p:D
[HTC Droid DNA] freddie813:
Cloud is ghey. I even have 4g at home now, as of July. There are many buildings like the gym, work, etc where any signal is non-existent.

Personally I'm not going to get hyped up until I see official specs from HTC. They better hurry up. My thunderbolt has served me well but it's day is coming.

Sent from my Thunderbolt
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
I think I will buy this phone. Rezound is great and I love it, but certain things are starting to go bad. Like my headphone jack is getting wonky, doesn't quite work. And my power button takes a few presses to respond.

And I can always swap my sim card between the two.

But I can guarantee that it will have more than 16 gigs of storage. It has to.
[HTC Droid DNA] blestsol:
There's an Hox+ in the marketplace with 64gb of space. Please follow suit Htc.

Gs3
[HTC Droid DNA] dplane:
Can't wait to see more news on this. Not impressed by the LG Nexus leaks/rumors thus far. I wonder though about battery life on it with LG's new battery tech in combination with the S4 pro. They also claim their LCD is much more power efficient than Sammy's AMOLED..at least when displaying whites..interesting. Would be nice to see a screen comparison between the LG and HTC's LCD2 tech like on the HTC one series.

It doesn't look like the DLX will be a Nexus but unlike the Rez, at least it being a "Droid" branded device should mean VZW is more likely to actively push this device on the masses. If the Rez would have been the Droid Rezound we might have had a much larger groups of folks running around with one.
[HTC Droid DNA] JeramyEggs:
Let me preface this with saying that I really like HTC. The droid incredible was far and away my favorite phone. I picked it up today,and played with it for an hour. I miss it even though I have his big brother. Every phone that has come out on Verizon since the incredible has been underwhelming. Every HTC device. The build quality, and battery life have been horrible. I keep seeing where people have traded in their Thunderbolts, and Rezounds multiple times. I hear stories how the Onex overheats as well. I hated the galaxy s1, but have to admit that the Note 2 is going to be the big seller on Verizon. The note is just more powerful. The benchmarks are out, and Did doesn't seem to pack the same punch as the Note 2. Plus all of the features that Samsung packed in are nice. Not a huge fan of Amoleds, but if I had to choose, the Note would be my choice. This phone won't see the light of day, though I wish HTC would return to is former glory. I really like HTC, and will be senseless without it...:(
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
Well of HTC didn't keep digging their own grave. Cutting corners and having poor quality control isn't a good way to getting back on top... :(
[HTC Droid DNA] dplane:
lol
[HTC Droid DNA] chris23445:
I was totally hoping they would announce this guy at their event in September. But then they unveiled new Windows 8 phones.

Hopefully this comes out soon, and is as good as everyone is hoping!
[HTC Droid DNA] ANDR0lD:
A source says right now that this phone will probably go for $200-250 on contract....waiting to here off contract prices

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[HTC Droid DNA] dragonrazorz:
Hopefully under $500
[HTC Droid DNA] ANDR0lD:
I'd like that too :) but my guess is $625 but that's just me haha

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[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
LOL under $500? the inc 4g is like around $500. this phone will be around the GS3 pricings.
[HTC Droid DNA] xxfallacyxx:
Retail pricing is going to hurt so good.
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
It will! :)

$600 is a lot but it is worth it.
[HTC Droid DNA] xxfallacyxx:
Eh, selling the Rezound will help take a dent out of the retail price lol. Plus I've been sitting on some MTG cards... selling those buggers. Can't believe I'm getting $26 for a single playing card that I haven't touched in years.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
i'd sell my rezound but once the DLX comes out, we'll barely get what, 200?
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
If that. In the marketplace they're like $150 or something like that and on eBay, sure they're for $200-225 but you'll only end up with like $175 max :/ have verizon swap it for a GS3 before you sell and you'll have a better time
[HTC Droid DNA] TCM55:
I really hope this thing has an micro sd card slot or a 32GB+ internal memory option. My music alone eats up 17 GB, add in nandroid back ups & recorded hd videos and that hits 32 GB quite easily.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
eh honestly, i don't sell things ever. like i really have no intention on selling it because again, i have to buy phones off contract and i don't do insurance, so these phones are my backups. either way, the rezound is good for SOMETHING, if not a cell phone activated currently ya know?
[HTC Droid DNA] dragonrazorz:
Im gonna keep my rezound since its the first one that actually worked n didnt lag :) it still feels to me, aaaaaand Im hoping for something smaller than 5 in for my next phone anyway ha the rezound is just under perfect for me..id be good with something like a Rezound 2
[HTC Droid DNA] who MIKE D:
I'm really excited about this phone but I will probably wait to see it rooted before I buy it since I'm sure its gonna be pretty locked down by HTC and Verizon :(

Oh and this phone under $500 off contract, yeah right! We'll be lucky if its under $650
[HTC Droid DNA] fernando sor:
owning the rezound and the evo 4g lte this is what ive experienced. before the lte i would have never been ok with a non removable battery on my main phone. the evo is more of a dev phone so i wasnt as worried. i have five batteries for my rezound lol. and now im pretty confident that htc and qualcomm have figured this out. ive gotten as much as six hours screen on time with my evo with 19 total in one day.

i will say this though. you need to keep your phone clean. no dirty flashing. and when we did tranquility rom we found we had to hex edit certain htc apks instead of using apktool or we would have performance and battery issues. so as long as your rom dev knows what they are doing you should see excellant battery life with new htc phones and qualcomm cpu's
[HTC Droid DNA] dragonrazorz:
Sounds like my $500 price isnt gonna happen ha theres always next year
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
it'll be the same next year, man. MSRP on flagship and high end phones is ALWAYS above $600. the razrs, rezound, nexus, etc always were. hell, the rezound still is i think
[HTC Droid DNA] freddie813:
Now the right half of my screen doesn't respond to touches, on my Thunderbolt. Ugh. Spend $100 on a replacement, $150-200 on a Rezound, or snag a GS3 for $300-350?

Wish there was a date for this phone to be out

Sent from my Thunderbolt
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
If u are just gonna run AOSP or something you might as well just get the GS3 lol
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
Spend $10 on a replacement digitizer

Sent from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
Then their network speeds will be slow and they won't be able to afford to upgrade the hardware. Verizon has the best network because they charge more - and they're quickly expanding and making it better, not just sitting on it.
[HTC Droid DNA] dragonrazorz:
I meant, hopefully by next year, I can get it cheaper off contract..used or somethin like that ha im milking my unlimited as long as I can
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
ah good call. yeah i hear ya. I'm doing the same lol
[HTC Droid DNA] freddie813:
Eh, that's the problem. I really really like Sense. I just think it makes Android look polished. I looked at the GS3 a month ago but just wasn't impressed with it. I think mostly because it was just a new UI to adjust to. And at the time I didn't have ICS on my Thunderbolt. Maybe a second look is worth it. I like there there is a TON of accessories out there for it.

Good call. I hadn't thought of that. Might be the best route to take, to try and hold myself over until the release of the DLX

Sent from my Thunderbolt
[HTC Droid DNA] dragonrazorz:
Looks like its only Japan for now

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...h-1080p-slcd-3-display-and-a-japanese-launch/

Hope we get a version, thus could be my upgrade :)
[HTC Droid DNA] A2Aegis:
"2020 mAh battery"

Absolutely pitiful.
[HTC Droid DNA] who MIKE D:
Oooooh, look at those screenshots...they brought back the quick launch widget
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
Emmm that phone looks delicious. But not with that battery size. Looks like I'll probably be moving on from HTC soon... They keep shooting themselves in the foot.
[HTC Droid DNA] boojay:
With this latest flagship, I can foresee HTC losing more market share and tumbling their way closer to bankruptcy. Whoever their team is, they need to give their heads a shake. They went from being a global leader to being a non-factor.

Swyped from my Android/iPhone Killer
[HTC Droid DNA] freddie813:
I'll still rock it. If they ever give us a date. Otherwise I'm about to give up and snag a GS3
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
Could they have picked a worse name for such an awesome phone?
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
Right I don't know what the deal is here. Is this phone gonna last longer than the GS3 in terms of battery life? Unless they have some ground breaking new tech I'm not seeing that happening with a 1080p 5in screen
[HTC Droid DNA] blestsol:
That display will probably feast on the battery lol.

Gs3
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
they're idiots for not having atleast 2500 mah. that pisses me off. anyway that's only the Japanese version... so it truly does seem that it will be a carrier wide phone.. but ours most likely is droid branded.. crazy
[HTC Droid DNA] tw33:
The article says the phone will prolly be jap only but the screen will show up elsewhere, will be nice ti see what shows up with the next rumors
[HTC Droid DNA] xxfallacyxx:
I think we're still getting a 1080p HTC phone.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
we are. lol
[HTC Droid DNA] xxfallacyxx:
That's why I think that. :P
[HTC Droid DNA] Squirrel1620:
This. Will. Be. My. Next. This phone.

I'll just tell myself its called the rezound2 :p
[HTC Droid DNA] xxtsxx:
did anyone else see that this version is waterproof? http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57533910-94/htc-j-butterfly-5-inch-smartphone-destined-for-japan/
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
It's newer tech LCD is supposed to be a lot more efficient than older models. That said, it probably will still be pushing it.

It's very possible that the Japanese model was given a smaller battery due to people there tending to use their smartphones less throughout the day (I dont know that this is true, just saying it's possible).
[HTC Droid DNA] dplane:
Unless HTC's SLCD3 is dramatically more efficient than its first and 2nd gen (read; Rez & One series) I really want to see HTC bumping up the battery life for any US bound version of this. As some folks rightly said; ever since the Razr Maxx and now its HD brother..there is no reason to not include a battery with very large capacity on a device this size. I also hope the Adreno 320 which hopefully is in this device is powerful enough to see a minimal performance difference between pushing 720 or 1080p. While I still love the Rez for the innovative technical marvel it is/was, I did always feel like some of the support hardware was slightly inadequate for the screen.

Having said that all that...this is way more exciting to me than the GS3 or Note2. The only Sammy branded items I buy are tv's..:silly:
[HTC Droid DNA] willsully1221:
I want the HTC DLX so bad... but when someone asks me, "hey what phone is that?" I don't want to have to go, "it's the butterfly..."

The phone is still sick as hell. Hope the Verizon - US version is still going to have the 2,500 mah battery and 12 mp camera. I love having a great camera on my phone.

Edit: Although, Sharp did make the screen for this phone and created it so it doesn't need as much backlight (or something along those lines) also the S4 processor is very power efficient so I'm not too worried about that. And (I'm sure its already been mentioned) but it looks like it will have the micro HD slot.
[HTC Droid DNA] dragonrazorz:
I love the red going around the edge, just like i loved the red on the rezound
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
I actually like the black and white one too
[HTC Droid DNA] killahrey:
Heh I hope they end up calling it the A Butterfly, I'd be damn sure to let everyone know what its called. Lmao. It would make everyone trip freaking balls that a beast like that is called A Butterfly.

HTC DO IT HAND YOU WILL HAVE MY MONEY LAUNCH DAY!
[HTC Droid DNA] Sutanrei:
1080p sure does seem promising but the phones are getting too big. o0
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
I thought the same thing when I went from my Incredible to my Rezound. Now when I hold my Incredible it feels tiny.

I wonder what "too big" will be for me. I haven't had much hands on time with the SG3 or the HOX.

I'm hoping that 5" will be perfect. I sure hope HTC announces something here in the US soon, I'm getting way too antsy and my work upgrade has been sitting too long ;)
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
that slot you think is the sd slot is the slot for the sim card :(
[HTC Droid DNA] freddie813:
Not that anyone cares, but I bought a Rezound on craigslist for $100 to hold me over until this phone is released
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
Not a bad price lol.
[HTC Droid DNA] freddie813:
I didn't think so lol it's not perfect but still better than my Thunderbolt was. I plan on rooting, s-off, New Rom, etc tonight after work.
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
The one on the top? Got anything to confirm this?
[HTC Droid DNA] dplane:
Float like a HTC Butterfly, sting like a motherf**** 1080p bee.

There..that's the advertising slogan they should go with.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
yes lol but i can't actually say it unless he allows it :p
[HTC Droid DNA] coltstrgj:
I definitely agree that battery should be removable, and there needs to be an sd slot
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
Haha I figured. Glad you couldn't actually say it ;)

So I'm kinda liking the non removeable battery idea if it makes the phone feel solid... as long as the battery life is decent anyways. I just need it to last through a single day at a time.

I'd definitely like a sd card slot too, but I think I could live without it.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
I just want the battery to be like my s3... the battery in this thing rocks.
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
It's got a 2100 mAh battery right?
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
yeah and it's great. so if that 2025 or whatever is fine, then i'll take it..but the bigger screen wworries me.
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
Yeah I know what you mean. From what you've "gathered" is it a non-removable back for sure, and are battery stats / battery life known at all? I remember Football's tweet said it had a 2500mAh battery which contradicts the new J Butterfly stats.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
yeah i've got no idea what the mah is, but it's def a fixed battery, that's for sure...which i mean, i don't mind, bc it'll be a nice solidly built phone in that case...but come on, that big of a screen needs atleast 2500!
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
I'm kind of excited for a non removable battery door... I have an extended battery for my Rezound and man the battery door is squeeky. Drives me nuts.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
remember when everyone *****ed and moaned how cheap feeling the nexus battery door was when it came out?

yeah, i like it 10x better than the rezound battery door. same with the s3. that chinsy plastic won't break, and it doesn't EVER get squeeky. they had it right.
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
Rumors are that the next nexus device will be released in a few weeks. :D
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
this isn't it lol
[HTC Droid DNA] nerogold:
http://tinyurl.com/9uxqacu

from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium
[HTC Droid DNA] rfarrah:
Android Central's report: http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-htc-dlx
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
Ugh, the back is so ugly.