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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Vaste92:
In Italy we have:

Low range:

Tipo (140€)

U and Miro (199€ why the hell miro has the same price?)

Mid range:

Sola (260€)

Go (280€)

P(350€)

High range:

S(420€)

Ion (550€)

So, 8 smartphone that covers all the ranges. But I can't understand why Miro and Ion were released. Miro has outdated specs, while Ion will be replaced by T!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Mr.Krypton:
lol @ quad core !!! Samsung targets the average consumer and earns more. some user know Quad Core is Speedier than the Dual Core... truth is behind Anrdoid... If you're a University student & studied Computer Architecture you should have known these stuffs :)

the truth is android is not yet ready for the Quad Core.... There are less amount of android applications are there to use almost all the threads within CPU.... Dual Core is more than enough !!!

Take a Lumia, It runs on a Single Core... bt It's performs more than Android which consumes the Dual Core.... you should have check a lumia ;) Next I'm willing to buy a Lumia.... and a 2013 Sony Phone ;) 2013 Will be the Quad Core Era :angel:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I've studied Computer Architecture. And there's nothing stopping Android from using all four cores. Even though I think it is still overkill.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Mr.Krypton:
sorry for that I was about to delete that... Yes nothing stopping but manufactures doesn't optimize it well !!! then take a lumia for a test single core vs quad core GS3 which is smooth ??? :good:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Rapier07:
Well there actually is. Android isn't yet optimized to use all the 4 cores and same goes for the applications. This is a very famous analysis done by a team working at Intel.

Tapatalked !!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Applications don't use quad core, but they don't really need it. But the framework can use all four cores since JB.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Mr.Krypton:
Intel's Prediction or whatever it's correct 100%, btw Intel Soc doesn't work well on Android as the announced motorola sucks at benchmark.. even I'm not a great fan of benchmarks !! because It sux... doesn't show the real value !!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Sirence:
The only people that would choose an expensive phone over a cheaper one with nearly the same performance because it says quad-core on the package are people that have no idea about phones.

A new Xperia s costs 320€ here while sgs3 for example costs 500€. What could anyone use a phone for that makes it worth to pay 200€ more??

The benchmarks might be a lot better but what does that help me in a phone? Messages will still take the same time to write, and viewing pictures won't get any better either.

Gesendet von meinem LT26i
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ashqmallik:
SONY is actually doing pretty good with their new Xperias. Each is unique in their own form. I dont support Samsung much coz they dont develop their old phones as fast as despite of new ones where Sony and HTC sticks up with their old phones. SONY actually cares for their consumer so when they found out abt the ICS and screen bugs, they acted faster. If Xperia S wasnt any better than S3 then they wouldn have been choosen by Google to get the AOSP Vanilla. Let it hit and it will be the next Galaxy Nexus ;). Not a big fan of Quads coz the Duals are doing more than Quads for me. Manufactures wont go much with Quads now, not for the next 1 and half years. Will be gettin my quad then :p.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Rapier07:
Yep. They are gradually implementing it with newer updates but still full utilization isn't possible yet, Jelly Bean included.

Tapatalked !!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Elsydeon:
I think Sony made an official statement somewhere that they deliberately chose not to go with quad cores for the sake of better battery life. Which I can believe, because their phones tend to pack smaller batteries compared to their competitors, which all have started using 2000+ mAH batteries by now. Sony seems to always keep theirs in the 1700-1800 range...why, I don't know.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] louis.b:
Honestly who cares about low end smartphones except for their owners. The point of low end smartphones is to make it as cheap as possible and you get what you pay for. Of course Sony can choose to support them but not for the sake of their flagship phones getting new software updates late. Honestly look at how Samsung has been selling a lot of low end smartphones and yet dont support any of them but they are still doing well, because they focus their resources on 2 high end ones that are the best sellers and the face of their company. As long as they cover the flagship ones, the press will automatically forgive their neglect of the lower end ones.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] doministry:
True that...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Rapier07:
These owners form a major part of their consumer base.

Tapatalked !!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ashqmallik:
For the sake of design offcourse! u cant keep a phone slim n trim :p if you use that much of a battery. 1700-1800 Li-po Batteries are exceptionally thinner than 2000+. U cant have so many features if u use too thick batery e.a HDMI/MINI USB/NFC/Big Lens Cam/Quick Launch Keys. I am not saying that u cant keep it thin, they are probably working on some new battery system, i guess it is Samsung and *coughsApplecoughs* whos trying to develop a new more powerful but thinner battery. See the LG phones, they pretty much end up thick, where motorolla surely claim to have a lot of juice in their phone bt intends to dry out sooner than expected :). With Snapgdragon Chipsets installed, i dont think u need more than 1800 worth of battery to run it for a fair amount of time. Sony focuses on their designs yet give their consumer almost the exact amount of working power with their phones. My Xperia S works for almost 17-18hrs with some tweaks (sometimes more) with a single full charge, sometimes dry up to 30-20% after a heavy usage, mostly for lots of Gaming+Video Playback and yeah Web Surfing! but still it can take up the heat to max 7-8hrs :). Music time is the best with Xperia, never actually found my phone "juiced out" for listening music. I'll say thats pretty good, couldnt have done it if i had a Tegra 3 processor :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] darth5zaft:
The press will forgive but the owners will not

And these handset represent their biggest user base. Can't really get a repeat purchase or upgrade from these lots when u has piss them off.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Maximus999:
Not at all. Of course Sony should support the flagship devices, but supporting the lower and middle devices builds a sense of loyalty in consumers that will drive future sales. By playing to the gallery Sony would end up making a huge mistake, the 100% support level they are providing is unique in the Android ecosystem and it has made people take notice of Sony. Repeating that for 2012 devices and updating all of them to JB will make the press take notice as well, being the only Android OEM to give 100% support will put Sony one step ahead of the rest. People can buy Sony without wondering whether they will get the latest version of Android, they know because they can look at past action. With HTC and Samsung, will they know? Only if they buy the top end devices. That leaves 80% of Android users shafted.

Sony's problem is that they update the wrong devices first, in 2012 they updated the 2011 devices first, and we are in October and there are still 2012 devices on GB. That was a mistake, they should have concentrated on getting ICS out for all 2012 devices first and then done the 2011 devices later. That the Xperia U and Sola still have GB is pretty poor, though we hope they are both about to receive the update in the next couple of days, but even then the devices have been out for more than three months and are still running a 2010 Android version.

I have seen the JB roll out schedule and it looks like they have got it right this time. The late 2012 devices are first in line, then the NXT range and finally the rest of 2012 devices and possibly 2011 ones. That is how it should have been this year, NXT first, then 2011 devices, but at least they seem to have fixed the mistake with the JB roll out and have given the flagship devices priority.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Where did you find that jb rollout schedule? :eek:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ashqmallik:
Well said bro :highfive: but where did u find out about that JB rollout?? I dont think it was official :confused: Coz as far as i've read, they are still investigating prior to the JB. They should actually give it a go already, coz as far as Xperia 2012 devices go, i think we got better specs to run JB than nexus and so forth.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Maximus999:
Better not to say...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] louis.b:
Yep, that's why Samsung's sales have been so poor.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
why not? dont make it a secret rofl
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Maximus999:
The information was given to me on the agreement that I wouldn't post it on the internet, even anonymously. Don't worry, though. It's good news, and I think Sony are going to have a press release in October about it, but I can't be sure.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
oh okay.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] del1701:
Well this sounds promising, let's hope it's true :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ashqmallik:
As "Mike Tyson" said in the movie Hangover .. NOICEEEEEE :D:D NOICEEEEE :D :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I have some kinda bad news for you. There is no fixed release schedule that I know of, but there are timeframes.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Rapier07:
There can be other sources too apart from yours

Tapatalked !!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
My source hasn't failed me once. All I meant to imply was that there's no exact date that you should mark on your calendars. It is something like "late October - early November", not "November 2" or something.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Maximus999:
Schedule as in "device A" in "month X", or as I have seen, device A, B, C in month X, device D, E, F in month Y. No week numbers or fixed timetable but an estimate of when things will be ready.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Rapier07:
Both of your sources say the same thing then. Seems promising :)

Tapatalked !!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Then I'm pretty sure we are talking about the same thing. Confirmed?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Maximus999:
Yes I think we are.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Galaxen:
The question should be when JB now shows up.. will it be as buggy as first ICS or will it transform the SXS back to the smoothness with GB!?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
with those improvements in performance google mentioned, sony just cant mess it up that much that it lags like our current ics imo.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
They should be able to enable VSync and whatnot, so it'll be quite fast. I don't think Sony's UI adds too much overhead either.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
That sounds right when looking at the smoothness of the one s on ics with a dualcore(yes i know krait but still) and sense 4 on top. Sonys interface is not really RAM hungry, just like TW.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Gambler_3:
This is true but it does not change the fact that samsung is faster when it comes to updating high end phones.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Static-Noise:
I have to say, I agree with the OP. I think that Sony have made a mess of things. They have clearly released too many Xperia handsets in too short a time space.

Most of all I'm very pissed that a Sony promotions team encouraged me and persuaded me into buying a Xperia S only days after launch. Since then I've had to return three devices, one for battery issues, one for software problems and another for the screen tint. This phone cost me €449- that's far from cheap. All that price for all those problems and a phone that isn't massively brilliant on reflection with other offerings. With all that in mind, I'm very upset that after forking out on this handset, Sony then release other phones only months later that are better than the original flagship device. It's a total disregard for customer satisfaction.

I've been a loyal Sony user for years, and I've even been involved with their marketing in Europe, but I find that this attitude and business approach is ridiculous. As a former business graduate I would explain and highlight as to why this is a bad move for the company, but this is a development forum, so I'll leave my thoughts with the aforementioned comments. My Marketing and Public Relations hat will tip this as being a perfect example as how NOT to approach a product range after a buyout.

Just my two cents.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Abaddon:
Clearly the reason I sold every Sony Smartphone I had and will never come back.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Gambler_3:
So no jelly bean update on ANY device before 2013. What a load of effing fail, just what I said they release so many phones they dont have resources to control.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Gambler_3:
So the xperia J is getting JB but not xperia arc S? And sony is making performance related excuses? Just ridiculous.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] reptile64:
The funny thing is that after the release of 2011 series with Android 2.3 (the latest version back then) I thought that Sony took a lesson and will offer upgrades faster than ever, especially for the newer models, now.. the ball is lost in the field once again, with so many devices and [I assume] a little number of developers they are doing the same tragic mistake as they did with Xperia X10 etc.!

I expected more from a Japanese giant of electronics especially after the divorce with Ericsson!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MadManMark:
+1
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Theonlyzii:
Sony has lost it completely

Jellybean in 2013 are you kidding me:confused:

You're making a very big mistake here
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Gambler_3:
Seriously whats most shocking is that this company is struggling to survive and yet they do these things.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] simon_cbb:
I personally think that if Sony does 3 phones, one high-end, one mid and one low, they will fail.

With so much product out there, this is the first time I've seen a Sony mobile being used wherever I have been.

As for Sola/U - I'd never have bought Sony if I hadn't seen the U. It's great design. Sola is an ugly duckling!

As for size differentation, everyone's going there.

I'm dying to see the S3-mini.

I think Sony's strength is that it's different in design and it's providing lot's of power to its 'low end' phones

Africa, India and South America are loving their little 'U'.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Geeve:
That's what I also hate about 2012 Xperia range of phones - they released +10 phones with relatively same specs and design. Xperia S (the flagship smartphone), go (the durable smartphone) and something between V, J and ion (the high-end, high-quality smartphone) would've been sufficient for this year - alongside with better software support.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] halfmanhalfmachine:
Yeah maybe it isn't that clear-cut. But while you can't really compare the two business models, I still find it funny that Sony (and everyone else) is releasing so many Android phones, but Apple currently has 3 phones and their low-end 2+year old iPhone 4 is more expensive than Sony's recent (~6 months old) flagship Xperia S at $588 vs $570 SGD respectively. I assume that the old iPhone 4 will sell more and be supported for longer...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
That's precisely why I say they do it deliberately. If it wasn't they'd do whatever it took to get their phones out with current software even if that meant releasing their phones with something close to vanilla firmware and then updating afterwards once their own stuff is ready but no time after time they carry on with a failing policy.

They can keep their designs, I'm moving on in 2013 from the S and that's why I'm not to bothered. You can be sure it's not to another Sony phone as I'm equally sure their 2013 line up will begin with 4.1 and not 4.2. Another year same story.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] doministry:
It takes time to be really up to date with everything.

You have to rememeber it took years for Samsung to be where they are.

They were struggling in the past for a long time, with wrong hardware and software decisions.

HTC was on top once but is not right now...

Most manufacturers update only some of their phones, not all.

I agree Sony has to be faster.

But they improved massively in the recent years, starting from X10.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Gambler_3:
They have should different update policy for expensive and cheaper phones as the expensive ones are competing with the likes of samsung and HTC flagships which do get updates.

Sony updating it's low end phones is an advantage but the low end phones are not going to make sony a profitable company again.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
Okay Time for some house cleaning there are to many threads like this and I'm putting end to them.

Thread closed
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 1212121212121212:
Sorry guys I'm a Newb. Just bought this phone yesterday to $350 brand new. Just wondering if I would be able to flash skyrocket ROMs on this nice phone. If I cant.could someone please link me to the right forUm where I can. I searched everywhere I cannot find it.

Thanks :)

PS: phone is rooted and has cm10
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
The answers other users in other forums have given u are correct. U cannot flash our roms
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Heeter:
Does anyone know which roms and forums on XDA work with this phone?

I would like to know too.

Heeter
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] retfeg:
bump
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Harry GT-S5830:
Question section please
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ÜBER™:
Oh cool another new ROM to flash :thumbup:

Sent From My Toro+ via White Tapatalk
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgt. slaughter:
moved this to QA where someone might actually answer this...

OP Development sections are for Development only.

-SS
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RockNrolling:
The notification drawer is part of the workspace. I believe you can change it's size by switching from tablet UI (small) to tablet UI (mid) under paranoid settings.

I don't think there is a way to have a dock and still have your launcher be sized for tablet mode. You might get that feature from another launcher like Apex or Nova.

You can get rid of the soft buttons and recall them in any app with expanded desktop mode. You can access expanded desktop mode by holding the power button for about 1 second, then select expanded desktop mode. To get the soft buttons back just select expanded desktop mode again. :D

Sent from my Paranoid Nexus 7
[HTC Incredible S] yazanallahham:
Hi

i have HTC Incredible S which was rooted by using Revolutionary and had custom rom installed on it version 2.3.5 and it was using CWM recovery, Everything was fine until i decided to install official ICS RUU which is

RUU_VIVO_ICS_35_S_hTC_Asia_WWE_4.10.707.1_Radio_20.74.30.0833U_3831.18.00.11_M_release_266513_signed.exe

when I tried to install it everything went fine but i got stuck on HTC Logo.

the weird thing here is that my device CID is HTC_J15 and the above rom doesn't support HTC_J15 CID so i don't know how it got installed also my device was S-OFF and usually RUUs cannot be installed on S-OFF devices (as I know)

after that i thought that maybe i have to remove the Revolutionary

i tried a method saying that I have to modify the HBoot version to be higher than Revolutionary hboot using HexEditor

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1405805

after flashing the new modified HBoot, now the phone is stuck on HTC logo and when I go to Hboot menu (Volume UP + Power)

I see this

VIVO PVT SHIP S-ON PL

HBOOT-8.09.0000

RADIO-3831.18.00.11_M

eMMC-boot

Apt 1 2011,18:34:39

Now my phone is S-ON and the bootloader is locked

when I try to unlock it to be able to flash a new correct hboot using the HTCDEV method which is :

fastboot oem get_identifeir_token

I get this

...

(bootloader) [ERR] Command error !!!

OKAY [ 0.008s]

finished. total time: 0.009s

when I try to flash an official Frayo or Gingerbread RUU it gives me an error saying that (main version is older) and this is because my phone currently has ICS rom

now if I try to flash the same RUU that i flashed in the beginning which is :

RUU_VIVO_ICS_35_S_hTC_Asia_WWE_4.10.707.1_Radio_20.74.30.0833U_3831.18.00.11_M_release_266513_signed.exe

it gives me an error message saying that CID incorrect.

I tried to search for the right ICS rom which has the same of my CID (HTC__J15) I did not find it

the one i found was damaged or something like that

it gives an error message saying : signature error.

ADB doesn't work because it needs a bootable rom.

I don't have XTC Clip.

Here is my device info :

C:\fastboot>fastboot getvar all

(bootloader) version: 0.5

(bootloader) version-bootloader: 7.09.0000

(bootloader) version-baseband: 3831.18.00.11_M

(bootloader) version-cpld: None

(bootloader) version-microp: None

(bootloader) version-main: 4.10.707.1

(bootloader) serialno: HT19VTD02617

(bootloader) imei: 358000045127055

(bootloader) product: vivo

(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-7630

(bootloader) modelid: PG3213000

(bootloader) cidnum: HTC__J15

(bootloader) battery-status: good

(bootloader) battery-voltage: 4031mV

(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic

(bootloader) security: on

(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP

(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT

(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: dirty-8a731c6e

(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 12

(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0

all: Done!

finished. total time: 0.016s

Fastboot is working but hboot is locked

Please help.
[HTC Incredible S] Nonverbose:
Can you get access to another Android phone and make a goldcard on that? That will bypass the CID error. Don't flash a Froyo on your phone unless you want a brick.
[HTC Incredible S] yazanallahham:
thank u

Hi

I've just found the solution (15 mins ago lol) is by making a goldcard on another device and then putting it into the damaged device then flashing the same RUU which is

ASIA_WWE version

the Goldcard is used to bypass the CID verification

now my device is alive again.

thank you very much.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chris9983:
Can this work
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kuhmo11:
I have one Wildfire. What i did:

- made backup of my stuff

- diwnloaded Revolutionary and rooted device

- flash CWM recovery

- flash new ROM

Now i have some restarts, i tried a few roms but only original works ok. I dled RUU and now i have hboot 0002, and i cant downgrade device etc. Did i miss any step (htcdev unlock)?
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hazou:
Dont use HTCdev tool. We have almost no experience with that tool and there isn't much support for it. And u cant flash radio when needed.

But what roms did u try and when did it reboot?

As far as i know u can downgrade hboot 0002, just look in the index thread or dev forum ;)

Hazou
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kuhmo11:
Yeah i saw about downgrade... But goldencard dont works, and after reboot i still have 0002. I didnt use HTCDEV (but i'm every time more confused, Sensation i had to use htcdev, One X i had to use htcdev....). I will try one more time.

How do i get rid of revolutonary sign in bootloader? Or in other words how to completly restore phone. And start again the whole process?
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hazou:
A ruu set you back to complete stock. If u still see revolutionary than the ruu didnt work fully. Try another one maybe

Hazou
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kuhmo11:
Yes i see revolutionary. I used WWE version, altough HTCDEV showa TELSTAR (if i remeber well) to flash.

EDIT:

I had to refla**** manualy trough fastboot flash hboot command. Weird. But now it's stock ;)
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hazou:
Nice and what are u going to do now?

Hazou