yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
Looks like the VZW employees got some training material (or are getting soon...).

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/06/verizon-starts-htc-droid-dna-training-for-the-holidays-no-mention-of-a-date/

There's also some hearsay that the wallpaper on the image that flaring afro posted matches the press invite.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
damn. i'm not selling that phone then. my dealer price for GS3 is 577 and we only make 56 on it. sigh.
[HTC Droid DNA] Tag798:
Emails from my rep, I work at a vzw premium retailer...

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We pay $572 and we make a little over $100 on an upgrade... I wonder why your commissions are different than ours..
[HTC Droid DNA] rfarrah:
So.... are you allowed to share any more details? External SD card? Battery size?

If not, we understand. :good:
[HTC Droid DNA] Ndaoud360:
What HTC should do is have 2 version 5.0 inch and 4.7 inch for people who don't want a so called "phablet". I would get the phone in 5 inches if it was really cheap. I would get a 4.7 inch version no matter the price.
[HTC Droid DNA] Tag798:
I haven't actually seen the device yet... just emails from our rep telling us when the device will be available and pricing... today is my day off but I've heard there are new trainings available so tomorrow I'll let you guys know if I see anything else.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
probably bc its a franchise. we make a set amount on smartphone, and then smartphone compensation. in the end, a GS3 when we buy it at 577, we make $59 on a standard upgrade, but like $160 sometihhng on a new act. it's garbage. we sell S3's like crazy, though. i just sold 3 in one shot today, and i'm all out lol a customer came in adn was like, we'll take 3 s3's please. i was like, hells yeah.

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your acct manager seems smart..my acct manager had no idea the Note 2 was coming out :\ i knew it before him and he was like, "nah the LG intuition is verizons competition for ATT and the note"

i was like, "no, it's not. it's a multi carrier release." he's like, "i didn't hear anything"

i was like, wow, i know more than my acct manager. why am i a lowly salesman? sigh

or do you m,ean your HTC rep? ours is nonexistant. our balckberry rep comes in all the time, and LG sometimes...HTC, there is none. i saw my samsung guy 5 times before the nexus came out.

whats your franchise chain name? my boss is curious lol
[HTC Droid DNA] Tag798:
Were a sub agent of Moorehead communications and it was one of our account managers who sent the email out to the owners and it was forwarded to me... we don't actually get reps from manufacturers... that would be awesome
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
dude i just told my boss thats who you worked for..and he laguhed and was like, no joke, i've been looking into becoming a franchise for them. that's awesome. i'd love to get more money lol
[HTC Droid DNA] willsully1221:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Veri...ew-rendering-and-Google-unboxing-date_id36481
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
Looks like there will be an international version with multiple colors (that isn't the Butterfly).

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/12/htc-droid-dna-coming-in-white-brown-and-black-in-other-countries/

I would have never considered anything but black personally, but notice the white one has red touch buttons. It might mean that the DNA's will glow red like a lot of their recent phones do. Also, brown as the third color they decided on?
[HTC Droid DNA] rfarrah:
I would be okay with Black or Brown, I think! I just WANT it. NOW.
[HTC Droid DNA] xxfallacyxx:
phone arena seems to still be under the impression it will have a 2020ma battery. Hmmmm
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
Just 1 more day until we get the official specs, 8 until it will be available. Not too bad.

They also say it's a dual core which was proven wrong months ago. They obviously aren't using any good sources for their specs.
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
Here's one more bit of info confirming the 20th release.

From VZW's google+

Verizon Wireless

Nov 9, 2012 - Public

Want a sneak peek of the new Droid? Come to our unboxing Hangout on Air on 11/19 – the day before it launches – and see the latest Android technology.

Not long now!

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So I was looking around to see if there was any more info on the J Butterfly having a SD Card (review, unboxing, etc) and after a lot of looking I ended up on HTC's Japanese website. I figured if anyone's info was correct it would be theirs. Now I can't read a word it says in Japanese, but luckily enough for me, some of it is in English :D

http://www.htc.com/jp/smartphones/htl21/#specs

Looks like it has 16GB ROM ／2GB RAM and a 32GB microSDHC.

Let's hope that the US version will have that as well as the larger 2500mAh battery that we've been hearing about.
[HTC Droid DNA] cslingerland:
We all knew this already..... but thanks
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
Last I read everyone was still "hoping" it had a microSD to fit all their media. Even Joelz said it didn't have expandable storage. Did I miss something?
[HTC Droid DNA] cslingerland:
no.. all he did was list the j butterfly specs which we already knew.. its been out for like a month.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
WAIT, the jbutterfly has an SD card slot?! when did we learn about this!? that's awesome and totally makes me want it....now for a 2500mah battery, and i'll def get it.
[HTC Droid DNA] MissionImprobable:
Never saw word one about the Butterfly having an SD slot. That's been one of the big talking points is whether or not the U.S. version would since it didn't seem the Japanese version did.
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
What if the battery is only 2000mah lol. HTC should hire someone to read stuff on XDA. They know people like the quality of the phones. They just don't ever give us what we want. Battery has always been lacking with them though. It's not like we won't pay for it. They put the best phones out on verizon.
[HTC Droid DNA] cslingerland:
ignorance of the law is not an excuse! lol jk :p but anyways... here. go to full specs then scroll down to storage.

http://www.theverge.com/products/j-butterfly/6223
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
I wonder if the max will really be 32GB. Seems kind of low for a phone coming out now. I also remember hearing of at least one phone that could use larger memory cards than the manufacture said, I forget what it was.
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
That's what I thought till I read HTC's site. I stopped trusting all of the other sites since each reported something different.
[HTC Droid DNA] NorthlandAZ:
All I can say is the phone is sweet......
[HTC Droid DNA] who MIKE D:
I may be incorrect but I'm sure it might mean it comes with a 32gb SD
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
just announced today. goto android Central. 16 gig, 11 gig usable, no mention of an sd card slot. not buying it now.
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
Presentation is over, camera has it's own processing chip and has a much wider lens (triple the area of other phones) so pictures include more. Also, 2 beats amplifiers - 1 for headphones and 1 for speaker. Only a 2020mah battery though. Oh, and it will have wireless charging. Only 11GB of usable onboard rom (which is about what I would have guessed), no mention of SD Card slot, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have one.

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/13/live-htc-and-verizon-droid-dna-event-in-nyc/
[HTC Droid DNA] treadwayj:
no sd slot unfortunately, but battery life is fantastic with the 2020 battery
[HTC Droid DNA] blestsol:
Oh no.

:(
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
That might be a deal breaker for me...

But here's a video of it with some specs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=R512phD0it4
[HTC Droid DNA] treadwayj:
i thought that as well, but since i had all my stuff auto uploading to various cloud services it's not as bad as i thought. disclaimer: i do still have unlimited data.

the screen on this thing has to be seen to believed, and its not as awkward as you would think holding it
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
Are you at the conference?
[HTC Droid DNA] treadwayj:
wasnt quite that lucky, but was lucky enough to get my hands on one :)
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
Even better!

I'm curious as to how the battery holds up vs my Rezound. As long as it can last a solid day, I'm good to go.
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
I'm giving up unlimited data with my new phone, and I really don't want to have to download and install games over wifi every time I want to play a different one. I wouldn't care if it weren't for the better games for phones that are coming out.
[HTC Droid DNA] treadwayj:
ive had mine for a few days now, and it seems like this things just sips the battery. i will admit that i was just using it on wi-fi since i didnt have a microsim and couldnt activate it, but that will change here in about an hour when i go to the vzw store and freak them out with it
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
Verizon has it and a lot of specs online now.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?&item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=6103

Looks like it was the front facing camera that's wider, not the rear like I thought. Also, usage time is 12.5 hours - the Note 2 and Razr HD both have about 10 hours more. :(
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
Usage time on the Rezound is listed at only 404 minutes (6.73hrs), so I'm not feeling to bad about this really...
[HTC Droid DNA] rfarrah:
I'm going to give it a shot. Preordered!
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
treadwayj, have you run anything that might push the processor a lot? I'd like to know how the battery does with playing N64oid or a GTA or something. I wouldn't want 30 minutes of that to make me not be able to last the rest of the day.
[HTC Droid DNA] treadwayj:
not yet, that is on my agenda of things to do today right after i go by the store to get it activated. and i think i will give it a try with tknr since someone said it runs beautifully
[HTC Droid DNA] rfarrah:
Treadway, how did you get it so early?

(...so jealous) :laugh:
[HTC Droid DNA] NAU420:
Some of us on the HTC Elevate got the phone a few days ago. The phone is nice and fast. I've been playing with it all weekend and the screen is awesome. The camera technology is out of this world. I have played a few games and used 4g for all my Google play store down loads. So far the battery can make a full day of use. The radio is great compare to the SIII. There is no sd card slot and the phone is only 16GB so I have most of my music on Google cloud.
[HTC Droid DNA] treadwayj:
thats the answer, i just went and finally got it activated so now i am fully funtional :)
[HTC Droid DNA] chinstrap:
$599 retail.

thats the bit of info i was looking for. :D
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
You in a 3g or 4g area? Just wondering what your opinion on the battery is now that you are on the network.
[HTC Droid DNA] treadwayj:
4g all the way, and i will probably be able to give a better opinion after i have been on it for a while
[HTC Droid DNA] rfarrah:
Thanks. I'm hoping they ship the pre-orders a little early.
[HTC Droid DNA] jmichaels1982:
I know i asked this before i am dying to know

can some one tell me if this can do simultaneous data and voice over 3g like rezound and thunderbolt. I read somewhere that they changed their LTE chip . Please confirm ! Switch the phone to 3g only and dial 611 while running speedtest . THANK YOU !

This is the only thing thats keeping me from pushing that pre order button
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
wait, i'm on htc elevate...by being there, you could order a phone early?
[HTC Droid DNA] antp121:
Umm how do you get on HTC elevate? Do I have to be initiated into the cult?
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
Start lighting your candles...
[HTC Droid DNA] treadwayj:
from time to time they allow for new members, usually by referrals from current members. if you want next time they mention it i will see about sending you an invite
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
Is it something different or further than when you register thru the site? I signed up earlier without any problems?
[HTC Droid DNA] treadwayj:
not sure which site you speak of
[HTC Droid DNA] NorthlandAZ:
LOL yeah you have to join the HTC cult!!!!! :fingers-crossed:
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
Elevate.HTC.com
[HTC Droid DNA] kunsam:
What were they thinking...:confused:

I mean, Congrats and all for this fantastic device! but where's the storage? Here we are, trying to push a 64GB card in our HD2s and the DNA comes with a measly 16GB!

If no memory slots, they have to come up with 16GB, 32GB and 64GB variants for the rest of the world.

Somebody please tell them!!!
[HTC Droid DNA] Hallaisen:
Where did you get this price from please?
[HTC Droid DNA] treadwayj:
it's the price listed on vzw's site, that i cant seem to get to right now
[HTC Droid DNA] Geoi1006:
Droid DNA? I say we start a petition to have Charlie Sheen be the spokesperson for this particular launch. Who's with me?
[HTC Droid DNA] jonah1234:
I guess it would be "winning" device of the year.

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[HTC Droid DNA] geoff5093:
It's listed on Verizon's website.
[HTC Droid DNA] LakerStar25:
Plus my friend on the inside says he's heard of of two dates for release Oct 25 & Nov 15 cause they wanna try to get it out first before the other phones coming out to get sales up and get the most attention on it since it's gonna be Droid branded.

Sent from my Sense 4 ICS Rezound
[HTC Droid DNA] Afro Samurai:
If it does end up having an sd slot them I'm all in. I got too much on my sd card.
[HTC Droid DNA] drkow19:
I really need micro SD, I can't fathom how pones get launched without user removable storage, when it is so key. Non-removable battery is odd, I've never used a device with one, won't start now. 5 inches? 4.3 is almost too big when I'm using my Rezound with one hand.

Okay, the only thing this phone has going for it are the CPU and GPU. I'm not impressed by the Adreno 225 in the SGS3, it only outperforms our 220 by around 5 fps in my testing. But the 320 is supposed to be like having 4 225's. Have you guys seen a video for GLBenchmark 3.0? The 320 will be required for that type of quality at high resolutions. GLBenchmark 3.0 and phones like this will be out around the same time this fall.

On a related note, sucks to bee OUYA right about now, stuck using a Tegra 3. Sure it was a smart move since that chip is cheapo now, but it will be outdated by a huge margin when it launches.
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
The real reason that OEMs are using non removable batteries is because you can make a battery much bigger in the same space as a removable one.

If the Rezound had a non-removable battery, they could make it have a 3200 mAh battery in the same space as the 1600 it actually has
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
True, and in that case I see no reason to not go with a non removable battery other than being able to pop your battery out if your phone locks up.
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
Agreed.

Although, I believe HTC came up with a hard-reset combination (similar to that of an iPhone)
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
All non removable ones do. Razr phones do power and volume down for like ten seconds. My HTC evo view tab is the same thing.
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
Thanks for the info. I figured there was a way, I just haven't messed with any.
[HTC Droid DNA] quepaso:
I was going to get this till news of no MicroSD + Non removable battery showed up. HTC isnt apple, they cant get away with crap like that.

I carry a spare battery with my rezound every single day and i have a 64 gig microsd i use, would never give up either features no matter what the phone.
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
Thing is, 90% of the population could care less about removable batteries and microsd cards
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
and we really don't know whats going on yet. most likely will have a non removable battery, but if they're getting as good batterywise as like the S3 with a built in battery, then i don't care.

SD card, however, i would enjoy. 16 isnt enough for me, as i put ALL my pics on it and music
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
If it doesn't have an SD slot, it should always have at least 32GB
[HTC Droid DNA] Tag798:
Lets just remember the inc4g that was also rummored to have a non removable battery and no SD card slot...
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
Has HTC sent a phone to Verizon that didn't have those things?
[HTC Droid DNA] Tag798:
The rhyme has a non removable battery
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
Does it? Hmm I've never looked at one lol.
[HTC Droid DNA] wlmeng11:
If it has good battery life, I wouldn't care about removable battery.

Sd card, on the other hand.....

Sent from my HTC Rezound
[HTC Droid DNA] Squirrel1620:
Yep sd card is a killer for me, after movies and music even my 1TB hard drive on my 1week old computer is almost full :/
[HTC Droid DNA] Evocm7:
Damn, reading this sucks since I'm only 5-6 months into my contract. Anyone ever gotten an extra early upgrade out of Verizon to upgrade phones? I'm sure I'm **** outta luck on this phone :banghead:
[HTC Droid DNA] csong95:
Why can't we just call it by it real name rezound 2 lol
[HTC Droid DNA] wlmeng11:
Or Dinc5?

Sent from my HTC Rezound
[HTC Droid DNA] LakerStar25:
Most likely gonna end up as Incredible X but it would've been better as a Rezound 2

Sent from my Sense 4 ICS Rezound
[HTC Droid DNA] blestsol:
He has one already. Meant its crossed off the gotta have list.

Gs3
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
I didn't realize that Ashton was here. :)

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IKR. Everybody here talks about getting new phones every few months or so, I am only 4 months into my contract. How do you people do it? Buy the phone at retail price?
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
Yeah.
[HTC Droid DNA] U01637:
sexy
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
Lol yup... I could get one on contract through if I wanted because I didn't sign one for the rezound lol but I couldn't bring myself to do that :eek:
[HTC Droid DNA] blestsol:
Trade for them or have hook ups.

Gs3
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
I might just say screw it and buy it at retail. But I also want to build a computer. Can't do both.
[HTC Droid DNA] nrfitchett4:
ummm, which 720p phone came out in the USA before it? Nexus didn't launch until almost a month later.

As far as this phablet or any phablet goes. I will probably get one as my next device, but it has to have a micro-sd or at least 32gb of storage.

I will not upgrade though so would have to wait until its been out a bit and could find one on CL.

And HTC, please put a monster battery in it. Don't undercut it like you have so far on every phone you've released.
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
HTC would not release a phone with only 16 gb of space.
[HTC Droid DNA] ANDR0lD:
So it seems that storage and or the battery is the deal breaker here. What I'm planning on doing to fix the battery issue, though there may not be one in the first place, is buy one of these: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005NGKR54/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8

I'll probably be okay with storage however I could ease the pain with one of these: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005FUNYSA/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8

Remember though, nothing is set in stone :) hopefully we will see some more leaks about it today.

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[HTC Droid DNA] ANDR0lD:
HTC also might release a 32 GB model as well, just a thought though :)

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[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/24/rumor-htc-creating-the-nexus-5-a-variant-of-its-1080p-phone/

whaaaat
[HTC Droid DNA] wlmeng11:
In the USA, I think Rezound was first.

But LG Nitro HD was before internationally.

Sent from my HTC Rezound
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
I sure wouldn't mind if that rumor came true!
[HTC Droid DNA] xxfallacyxx:
Damn.... wonder what full retail pricing would be? lol
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
One S had 16GB

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[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
lololololol

see ashton, doesn't it feel good to prove someone wrong? now you know why i always do it to you ;D
[HTC Droid DNA] Geoi1006:
Android Blogs are reporting that this is the basis for the Nexus 5, HTC 's triumphant return to the Nexus program. 2500 mhz battery and 1080 display. I see iFans calling foul on the name though. Apple will probably sue too as they've undoubtedly been granted a patent on any device with a name ending in "5".

Edit: And the number five itself for that matter.

Edit 2: Don't mean to hijack your thread. Thought this was relevant to the discussion though.
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
Maybe HTC will have to get creative with their 5's and screw everyone up by switching out the current "X" to a "V" which is actually a 5 in disguise ;)
[HTC Droid DNA] retepdgp:
Haha I'm not gonna lie, I kind of like that idea.
[HTC Droid DNA] wlmeng11:
Lol MHz

You mean mAh.

Sent from my HTC Rezound
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
but i need my battery frequency to be precisely 2500mhz or else!
[HTC Droid DNA] ANDR0lD:
In my personal opinion the latest tumors concerning the phone are true. It has all the specifications to be hailed as true. The DLX being the Nexus 5 would make sense also because the phone was not debuted at HTCs latest press event where they instead focused solely on the latest windows phone. What are your guys' thoughts? I have a feeling a lot of you "deal breakers" have certainly changes yours ;)

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[HTC Droid DNA] ANDR0lD:
Haha its absolutely okay, I am just the OP, I only seek to manage what information we currently know about the device, not introduce it :)

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[HTC Droid DNA] ANDR0lD:
OP is updated with latest links and specs, will continue to look for news as the day carries on :)

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[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
Wait. I know this is just rumor. But if. HTC makes one a Nexus like WTF ill he first in line lol. Nexus One was an awesome phone... Way better than the S imo and at the time better than the galaxy nexus...
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
i would take the nexus 5 part out of the title because thats far from confirmed. Leave it in the op tho by all means

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[HTC Droid DNA] antp121:
The dlx isn't confirmed either :P n00b.
[HTC Droid DNA] ANDR0lD:
I appreciate your opinion, does anyone else want me to do this?

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[HTC Droid DNA] wlmeng11:
Maybe put them side by side, but don't make them the same thing.

Sent from my HTC Rezound
[HTC Droid DNA] ANDR0lD:
Hey now there's no reason to call people names :)

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[HTC Droid DNA] ANDR0lD:
How bout that???

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[HTC Droid DNA] antp121:
He is a n00b :P

Sure.
[HTC Droid DNA] Squirrel1620:
Just downgrade your line to basic everything then open a new line up and presto, you have a contract priced phone. But it will cost a little more per month supporting the other line
[HTC Droid DNA] xxfallacyxx:
Haha yea... I'm trying to decide whether or not to get a new line, grab the rumored device at that time, and then swap for my Rezound.
[HTC Droid DNA] Evocm7:
Ya I might have to do that. Maybe I can find a friend that will take my other line.
[HTC Droid DNA] Squirrel1620:
That's what I did I have a friend paying the $20 a month for minimum everything
[HTC Droid DNA] ANDR0lD:
My plan is to have my mother use her upgrade to get the phone and switch it over to my line so I keep unlimited, then I'll pay for her next phone at retail price.

If that doesn't work to keep unlimited data then I will buy this phone retail since I calculated that I would save more money per year if I did that rather than submit to tiered or overage charges.

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