yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] terpfan1980:
If I've been following along correctly, CM10.1 looks like it would include LTE support, but then again, the same places I've been reading that (here, over in the appropriate forum area) seem to say that CM10.1 is still very much a work in progress with more than a few things not quite there. Some might not see it as show stopping while others are more leery.

To be honest, I'm much more of a stick with stock and just accept the OTA updates kind of guy as I tend to be both lazy and scared a bit of going rogue. I've been more adventuresome with my i815 than I thought I might, but a lot of that has to do with the price I paid for it.

I'd consider taking the approach you have (using the Straight Talk network) but I really didn't want another bill. My Mrs. takes care of the VZW bill for the family, so in reality, me having the Tab 7.7 with LTE is costing me nothing other than the time I invest in it.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ldriod:
Really frustrating when such a device is questionable for one of the most pivotal OS upgrades.

If only the nexus devices were of like quality in build...

Waiting for the day of a premium nexus device!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] goattee:
Re: No Jelly Bean goodness for Galaxy Tab 7.7

The Thai Samsung status page has changed the status language. It now says "to be updated."

http://www.samsung.com/th/article/firmware-update-announcement.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] bassem.mohsen:
is that a confirmation or would be the beginning of letting us down? :S
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] goattee:
I am not optimistic that Samsung will release new versions for the 6800 series for these reasons:

- Thai seems to be a rather vague language that depends on oral interactions and the listener understanding the context.

- Samsung Thailand has not been the first office to announce Android upgrades. On the contrary-- updates appear here without warning.

But there is one reason to remain hopeful: the table names a specific version rather than specifying 4.04 and making it clear that ICS is the end of their commitment.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] robotsoul:
I'm guessing just like the rest in here - but the fact that the text was now changed, but not pulled down after the news broke a few days ago tells me it's coming - some day... It also shows the same status as the S Advance, Ace 2, and Tab 7+ (all of which have been announced elsewhere as "officially coming"). The bad news - I also guess it will be April at the earliest, since others are listed for March.

Also possible: Samsung has taken a "leapfrog" strategy with some devices (the S Advance and Ace 2 above for example - shipped with GB - skipped ICS - confirmed for JB). Wishful thinking is that they roll the 7.7 into a 4.2 or (less likely) 5.0 build in the summer.

Also possible: Samsung says "one update is enough" and screws us. I have a Galaxy W that shipped with GB in Late 2011 - and never got an update - never will. Using CM9.

A brief rant: I know they're huge and all, and I won't make excuses for them, but in terms of product portfolio - they've kind of taken a spray-n-pray approach and that's left them with too many devices (and way too many chipsets) to maintain properly.

I firmly believe the slightest amount of market research would reveal that the majority of Samsung customers (or any other brand in the Android world) bought their brand/model of android phone or tablet for the USPs of Performance/Specs and Design - NOT the TouchWiz experience. If they would just accept that deliver a quick and powerful device with pure Android - the updates might not be such a struggle - and I'd bet the sales push higher as a result. And that goes for all the brands.

Show of hands - who bought their Sammy for the unique TW experience? [crickets]
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] UpInTheAir:
Re: No Jelly Bean goodness for Galaxy Tab 7.7

I would highly disagree with your later comments. The tens of millions who buy there products are totally happy with their products and reliability as it is out of the box (+tw), that's why they now become returning customers and their customer base.

Users like yourself, are in the very very very minority.

If it weren't the case, Sammy wouldn't be the giant it is today, and also producing Google Nexus Tabs.

And yes, I like TW, because it's simple and clean. ;)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] skeeterpro:
Agree. TW is clean and familiar. I appreciate updates primarily for the "under the hood" tweaks/improvements. But, as I've said before, ICS works well and the tablet itself performs beautifully as is. Now flashing a ROM/kernel that would assure one of never encountering that dang brickbug....then I'm good!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] bassem.mohsen:
Time is shifting, what's luxury yesterday becomes a high demand today.

people are changing their mindset every couple of years, and updates become a trend of today :)

yes, sammy achieved high sales for their beauty of hw and screens.

but today you can see people are looking for sony because they publish complete source code, support their devices with updates.

and people start looking to nexus devices a lot these days, and their major concern not the beautiful screens but it's the most updated os from google.

Trend is changing into high ppi and latest updates for the devices.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Marquzz:
I agree.

I see alot of S3's here in Sweden, probably the most popular phone here after the IPhone, and very few of their owners have even changed the background image. They cannot care less about what Android-version they're running.

I would say that most (~90%+) of the buyers have no clue at all what kind of hardware is in the phone. They simply see advertisement and listen to what friends, family and colleagues rekommend. Then they walk in to a mobile shop, or parhaps a elektronic supermarket, and ask a clerk there. The clerk will probably recommend a popular and expensive high end phone, whichever that is for the moment. Then people buy that one and are happy (or not).

They don't know what launchers are, root for them has something to do with beer and ROMs are as unknown to them as dark matter. When I tell friends/co-workers about Android v4.0, v4.2 or Jelly Bean they just look like a big question mark, and if I start to explain they just yawn and walk away.

People just want their devices to work, that's the big thing. Whether the phone has 4,3 inch or 4,7 inch or HD resolution or quad core or whatever, is irrelavent.

I would go as far as to say that people DON'T want upgrades, since those messes with things in their phone, maybe they need to do a factory reset and things are not where they are used to after the upgrade. Things like that just pisses people off, and I'm certain that Samsung knows this.

The only reason I see why manufactures should honor the leet enthusiast core, is that these folks in a large degree have an impact of what phones "normal" people buy. I recommend phones to people around me all the time, and they often go by my recommendation.

As for Samsungs "spray-and-pray" tactic, I think it's good for business, as long as the devices work as intended. If a buying is not satisfied with their phone, they most likely choose another brand next time. So if quality is sacrified for quantity, then they're on a slope track down to red numbers (just look at HTC). Then the manufacturer must focus on fixing their reputation. But as long as people are satisfied with Samsung products, they will continue buying them, nothing else really matters.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] robotsoul:
...that was actually the point I'm pressing here.

Nobody buys the Sammy because Touchwiz is better than XXXX. They buy for the up-to-date industrial design (if you're most influenced by trends and fashion blah blah) or performance (because you actually use it for more than a phone and facebook - or you simply must have the biggest/best whatever). These are the basic "under-informed" buyers - no criticism intended. Just about everyone I know is like this, or they settle for what they can afford if it isn't the latest/greatest. I concede that xda is a special subset of well informed buyers.

As noted - the enthusiasts make the noise - and they write the reviews. If they are not happy, word gets around. And yes - now that Android has rapidly matured from GB to JB, it seems a trend in reviews that update expectations are much more of a buying consideration. Nobody cared much when we went from 2.3.3 to 2.3.6. The android world is much, much bigger now. The more high profile Google makes its product launches - the more people hear about the new features - the more they will demand them from their next device.

So I ask a different way - how would sales have been affected if the enormously successful S3 had sold with pure Android 4.1?

Among the two kinds of buyers I mention, I guess zero effect. Among those well-informed? Maybe I'm wrong but I bet planned upgrades would outsell TW in a feature vs feature.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] bassem.mohsen:
I agree with you, trend now changed, and more people are rooting every day and becoming power android users.

why people taking samsaung side in the discussion and defending them, S III has quad core and was fast on ICS and there's no lags.

but on ICS our tab isn't smooth enough for our tab. so we need for its butter smoothness.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] long6688:
Re: No Jelly Bean goodness for Galaxy Tab 7.7

Would you guy talk less and concentrate on working on custom rom instead? Yawn, talking do nothing for us. We dont meed your opinion
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Alcibiade:
I guess we are now all impatiently waiting for your custom ROM contribution...

Just as a reminder without an official Samsung JB ROM, Custom JB ROMS will be disappointing either in battery life or performance (Or both...) by lack of proper drivers
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
I'm concentrating. Are you? Are you concentrating? Tell us what you see when you concentrate.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Fluxcore:
The evil kitty that lives in my house likes my Tab .
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] TeeeJaay:
Re: No Jelly Bean goodness for Galaxy Tab 7.7

*double facepalm* :banghead:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Nuclear Blast:
whats about this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2110251
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
What about it? Nothing resembling solid info, really. Pigs will fly sooner than a 4.1 update for the 7.7. Abandon all hopes--you're stuck with boring old 4.0. I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong, however.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] melorib:
It is not that important :p
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] madcat820:
Samsungs starts Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean update for the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 (GT-P3110)

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/26/samsungs-starts-android-4-1-2-jelly-bean-update-for-the-galaxy-tab-2-7-0-gt-p3110/

Samsung has just started to push Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean update to the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 WiFi (GT-P3110). You might not be able to update your device to Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean right away as the update is rolling out in phases. So, it might not yet be available for your country but don’t worry the update will arrive soon.

You can update your Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 WiFi (GT-P3110) through Samsung KIES or via OTA. Make sure you fully charge your device’s battery before upgrading as the update is quite big.

Official Firmware Details:

Android Version: 4.1.2 – Build JZO54K

PDA: P3110ZSDMB4

CSC: P3110TGYDMB4

All the new Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean Firmwares for the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 WiFi (GT-P3110) are present in our Firmware Section as well. You can use our Firmware Section to manually update your device if for some reason you can’t officially update your device via Samsung Kies or via OTA as you are using a Custom ROM or if your country has yet not received the Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean Update.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] XDAKhan:
What does this have to do with the 7.7?

Is it available for our model?

XK
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] L3773R5a:
It's all about the wait

call me optimistic but i'm pretty sure it's coming, it's just going to take some time. I can't post links coz i'm relatively new but search google for galaxy tab 7.7 jelly bean and you'll see one of the search results says that the update has been delayed so like i said, i think it's coming
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] UpInTheAir:
I'm still optimistic, but they're STILL releasing new ICS firmware. Checkout sammobile.com & samsung-updates.com >> P6800XXLQK ! Build date 27/3/2013
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] bassem.mohsen:
There's a release date for the JB, so no need to lose hope.

It's matter of time, no thing more.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] UpInTheAir:
Never said I'm losing hope, actual opposite..... "still optimistic".... ;)

Just pointing out Sammy are still releasing ICS, when they could/should be releasing JB this month. :)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] bassem.mohsen:
The build date and release date tells us they tested the ROM for 2 months, I think the JB ROM is under testing now and it's about to be out.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] long6688:
The in will be another 2 months =))

---------- Post added at 03:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:40 AM ----------

Supposed they build it right after lastest ics build (at best hope), on 1/4, it will be 2 months, so expect it in 1/6 =)), and it is the best hope, because it takes time to begin building jb, not only a few days but take months, they can release it right after they finished building ics

I wonder why they still working on regional ics and release them. Arent most ppl get to ics now? If they arent, well what do they care. Also, it cost money to do such things, to serve a minority, like pppl from spain in build lqi, how many ppl gonna upgrade?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] FlyerOne:
Would you like a little salt with that? :p
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] edan1979:
hahaha... :highfive::highfive:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] rkadve:
Please close this thread
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
Meh, I'm glad there's an update but if people feel vindicated then they might need to rethink their priorities in life. The weird narrative about people being naysayers or negative about an update being released is just silly. It's a consumer device, not an epic struggle or something. There wasn't any news from Samsung then when I made that statement.

Anyway, it's about time I wiped my Tab and started fresh since it just started acting weird.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] TonyBigs:
Maybe the OP/Moderator could change the title of this thread.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] sos_sifou:
Good news guys, jellybean is coming :)

http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-jelly-bean-206926/

Best regards

Sifou

Using a Samsung N7100
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] UpInTheAir:
Get a sense of humor ;)

Don't forget, XDA is about being positive, otherwise this community wouldn't be here.

Enjoy your new firmware until users start moaning about 4.2 :p
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] vbx:
Prolly not as much moaning. The reason why a lot of people wanted JB was because ICS was complete SHlT.

People mostly wanted JB because of Project Butter. If you really look at it, there not much of a difference between the two besides the buttery smoothness of JB.

Now, if I can get S Voice to work, I would be happy. So far I keep getting "no network connection". Can someone get s voice to work w/o rooting the tab?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] iOStoAndroid:
"People mostly wanted JB because of Project Butter. If you really look at it, there not much of a difference between the two besides the buttery smoothness of JB. "

Precisely, HC and ICS were both a pile of shiite.

I think Samsung got their act together after many comments made by users who complained about their poor product support.

Still no more Samsung for me, at least for now.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] hanzi54:
+1
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] RXP:
I think the step up for HC to ICS was huge. HC was so laggy, I hated using my tablet for anything other than a media player. ICS changed that. I can't imagine the step up to Jellybean is going to be as big as HC to ICS.

I mean in HC you couldn't even write to the SD card!!

I'm still waiting for mine (WiFI only) we had to wait longer for ICS too.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] TeeeJaay:
So Samsung decided to make the largest AMOLED screen for a mobile device partnered it with a slick, thin, and light design plus slapped on a dual-core processor designed by them, but then just suddenly leaving it out... Way to piss of customers Samsung! :good: :fingers-crossed:

More than half of the devices on the list that is getting JB has crap specs compared to our GTab 7.7
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] arniingi:
No Jelly Bean goodness for Galaxy Tab 7.7

I have not even got ICS for my region yet, and with the latest news no jelly bean for Galaxy Tab 7.7,

there will be no more Samsung for me.

I really hope there will be JB, but I really think its about that EU ban, and is probably all about the money,not customer service.

Bad move Samsung if true !
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ThE_SoUrCe:
at least. we know, at the back of our mind, our tablet specs kick the hell out of the other samsung 7" tab LOL. our baby is still a head turner, especially when you hold it without any book/jelly case. they'll notice how thin it is! in fact, it's as thin as iPhone5 LOL
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] skeeterpro:
You do realize that many here are running ICS from regions they don't live in? I, for one, am running the ICS firmware from Austria. Flashed it many weeks ago and it runs fine.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] funkyblue04:
This makes me so angry. There is no reason why it should not get Jelly Bean. There is not even a Tab 7.7 successor. I want a small tablet with an AMOLED screen and Samsung have made the only one. %$##%$%$#%$ Samsung.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] DakiX:
Maybe there's a surprise :D
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] melorib:
Of course I want Jelly Bean, but I am happy we have ICS, imagine we where stuck with Honeycomb :rolleyes:

I havent found any problem with ICS yet, other than the screen jumping to portrait sometimes, even though I set it not to :eek:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] vauxhallastra:
I've found quite a few issues with ICS, it's an improvement over HC, but it has wifi issues, bright line appearing, email app is a bit buggy, repeats sentences when I try to delete words,very odd. Phone app is annoying going into portrait mode. So jellybean would be welcomed as might be an improvement??
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ascariss:
Who knows what Sammie has in store for the successor of the 7.7 but I'm personally waiting for CES in january and hoping that something will debut there, perhaps even windows 8.

But this news is unfortunate but ICS is fine for now and once the new cortex A15 hits the market in some tablet, that might be my next choice for a tablet.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Kaiser Wilhelm II:
I agree. I love the GT6800 hardware but I'm still waiting for the official ICS upgrade on my Tab and if they aren't going to support JellyBean then I'll be looking to other manufacturers with better upgrade policies for future tablet purchases.

Bye bye Samsung.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
I'd like Jellybean on the 7.7, but really, I'm too busy watching movies, reading books, surfing the web, chatting on Google Talk, typing emails with my *****in' Motorola bluetooth keyboard, playing games, and enjoying a killer dashboard tab/nav system to give a **** about the update.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] vauxhallastra:
I just received this from Samsung.

" I am contacting in response to your enquiry received through our "Contact the CEO" forum concerning the list of products that you have seen that will be eligible for the Jellybean update.*The information that has been posted across the web is not a definitive list as released by Samsung, thus explaining why no posting is currently available on our website.*At the present time I am unable to confirm or deny exactly what products will be ultimately included and would recommend that you monitor our website for updates.*I am sorry that we cannot provide any further information at this time.*"
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] melorib:
Good attitude :good:

JB doesnt make that much difference from ICS :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] nocaldawg:
Can we just get some official ICS pushed out from Verizon?!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Gilbot:
Seriously.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] xrayA4T:
And you can add Google Now to ICS to get close too jb
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
Yes you can but it's a killer on battery life is decided to ditch until either it gets fixed or official JB comes out
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] arniingi:
Yes I know, Iam using open Austria P6800XXLQ2, but there are bugs in it I would like to get rid off,

so Iam waiting for firmware for nordic countries, mabye they will skip it and go straight to JB ( Yeah..Right..)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] UpInTheAir:
Isn't this XDA

Developers

?????? :confused: ???????
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] johnd603:
+1

Posted from my Verizon 7.7 w/HC
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jola013:
Yes, the wifi bug is a major issue for me.

Under certain circumstances (eg caused by the neighbours router), there is no solution for it!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] chzyken:
Assuming The Verge list is even official, I'm quite sure JB wasn't announced due to the European ban.

Doesn't seem like a smart decision to announce an update for a device they aren't legally allowed to sell to 1/3 of the global market. This is probably also why the first generation Galaxy Tabs are unsupported.

If anything, I would blame Apple for waving around the litigation stick.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] melorib:
No wifi bug on mine that I noticed, describe your problem :confused:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] inflamess:
Anyone going to galaxy tab 2 7.0?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] vauxhallastra:
I won't be getting a GT 2 7.0, its too much of a down grade from a 7.7 It would be a nice upgrade for the wife though.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jola013:
Just switch a Huawei mobile router (eg E583C/E585/E586 etc) on near your tablet and the wifi stops working immediately, even if you are not connected to this router.

This also happens with some other routers, one location where I visit there are a few other nearby routers over which I have no control, and the P6800 wifi (ics) will under no circumstances work there.

At my place, and also at my GF's place, it works fine.

If you do not visit an area where you have any of these situations you will not notice the problem.

And I have tried all of the ics firmware releases, they all have the wifi problem. I am currently using the Indonesian firmware.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] melorib:
I see, it works fine with my TP-Link, I guess the neigbours also dont have Huawei, thanks :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] marwanxx:
This is a worst news ever!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Rone1986:
Worst news ever? Cancer... :p

But seriously, XDA DEVELOPERS people. What are people on stock FW even doing in these forums? Can you spell REDUNDANT? :silly:

Last I checked, there are TWO JellyBean builds available: Paranoid and CM10. I prefer CM10, but to each their own.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] sos_sifou:
xda isn't only about ROMS, for some people, customisation is a enough!

I really like what a member said once "i don't have time to hack in my phone cause am using it as a phone, i would rather spend my time hacking on my Linux computer :)"

maybe CM10 nor paranoid is the cup of tea for everyone, but stock should be (for the majority)

best regards

Sifou

Galaxy Tab 7.7
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] XDAKhan:
Really...!?...Which ones?

XK
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] arniingi:
Stock clock and calendar widget is messed up in my language ( Icelandic )

it does not show name of days, just numbers, but when I put the english on its alright.

I do not have the wifi bug the others are talking about.

But beside that, I like this tab, right size and weight, exellent screen, the only thing that

might have gone better is the placement of the speakers so you get better sound watching movies.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] bruce16878:
one word, disappointed sum up my feeling with samsung.

Galaxy Note is samsung favourite son, tablet 7.7 is the abandoned son.