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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Every Android device with an overlay has a slew of these same types of threads. Three had to be locked on the One X forum because the "I'm never buying an HTC phone again" people kept fighting with the "pragmatists" that know the drill and that, regardless of manufacturer, the Android update process is a cluster. If it's cathartic everyone should feel free to vent. But it's not going to change anything and no one on XDA can get you an update any faster. If HTC were pushing out high quality updates twice as fast as Samsung I'd be right there with all the people that are pissed. But all the manufacturers suck pretty much equally so there's really no where to turn other than a Nexus device if you want ultra-fast updates.

I’ll say this, and I don’t mean it to be offensive, but saying “I’ll never buy a ‘____’” device again or “’_____’ is so much better” is just a sign of naivety. Android updating has been screwed up forever and is likely to remain that way as Google keeps introducing new updates faster. So the options are: 1) live with it (my choice), 2) get a Nexus device, 3) leave Android entirely, or 4) ***** and moan to people that can’t help you. You pick. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] TheWerewolf:
Uh... Samsung Electronics makes about $4B *profit* a quarter. In fact, during the same quarter they got nailed with that decision, they invested $2.4B into new LCD display production facilities - mainly for LCDs going to Apple.

$1B is a lot of money - but it's really not that huge a deal for Samsung. And let's face it, a LOT of people's opinions about Apple took a beating over that trial (rightly or wrongly)... the good PR for Samsung, who, bizarrely, was seen as the underdog in the fight, is priceless.

Look, they said they were going to deliver the update before the end of the year, possibly sooner. It's Dec 19th. That gives them 12 more days.

And from what we can tell, it *is* rolling out for the 8000s and the EU 8010s right now. Given the legal restrictions on Samsung in the US (and THANK you for the screwed up legal/patent system y'all have in the US because that impacts us up here in Canada), Samsung has to do even more fiddling for the US and Canadian markets, which is the 8010 Canada and 8013 models.

So... relax. And if you REALLY can't wait - do the 8013 update that's described in another thread here. It's not optimal, but it works just fine.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] se1988:
Oh man, you give the troll in me too much to work on...

Better just let it go back to sleep.

I was referring to the "I ******* hate samsung" type of posts.

Excuse me for DISCUSSING my opinion with other PEOPLE in this FORUM.

I did not mean to hurt your feelings.

However if you ACTUALLY think that samsung ever could provide a reliable ETA for updates, and you bought a device based on such info, you have been fooled big time, friend.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Interesting you'd say that. I think outwardly it's starting to appear as if the only way they can continue to "win" is to throttle everyone else. The iP5 is certainly evolutionary and the iPad Mini's taken a beating for its lackluster display while simultaneously cannibalizing sales of big iPads.

And Android's appeal is gaining...

We like to debate which Android device is "better" amongst the different offerings by multiple manufacturers and even Google themselves. But we have choices which spur competition and advancements in technology and features. Through the Note series we have new ways of creating content and interacting with the device. The DNA/Butterfly has a better higher PPI 5” display than the iP5 and all of next year’s high-end Androids will too. You can get Android phone in sizes from 4 to 5.5” and tablets from 7” to 13” inches starting at $199 for a nicely spec’d entry level tablet. What choices to iUsers have? Apple's starting to look tired, out of touch, defensive, and repetitious. The more they go after everyone else the more desperate they seem about their own future and ability to innovate. And if the younger demographic turns off to them because of their conformist approach and anti-competitive behavior their stock’s going to drop a hell of a lot faster than it currently is. I liked them when they were the underdog and were a feisty thorn in MS’ side. I don’t like them now that they’ve become everything they parodied in the famous 1984 commercial and “think different” campaign.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
Cm10 guys and quitchya *****in!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lekou:
battery

guys im the onlyone who has battery/charge issues with jb ?? ?

i tried every jb rom, and the latest 8010 german jb release but the battery life sucks a lot! even with the charger on power and just browsing the internet, the battery actually discharges (and maybe faster than use just the battery!)

its such a serious issue that u have to go back to ICS cause u actualy cant work with JB with battery run out so fast! i even use thelowest brightness, power save, and stills falling when charging! and im not talking about games. . . in 2 hrs it goes to 5% with charger on!

anyway enough sayed, i was just curius cause didnt saw any discuss about this as its so anoying that (atleast for me) i had to flashback ICS who everything goes smooth. .
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
Cm10
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] crystalstylez:
Not everyone wants to go the AOSP/CM10 way. Most people if they are in this thread wants a stock rom.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] diggedy:
I just had said update on my oneX and it made **** all difference to my phone. I had a nexus 7, new updates are nice but all in all, there's little difference between the latest ones to make it worthwhile getting worked up over.

But just to be clear, im agreeing with you :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] kakepner:
amazing

What is amazing to me is that the 8013 wifi tablet does not need to go through the hurdles that the lte or 3g models need to go through. Samsung has all the neccessary software in place to do the update. I think they come up with new items like premium suite to add to jelly bean and that just delays the final product even longer. They should just do incremental updates and then it can compete with galaxy nexus 10. Either that or since they make the Nexus 10 they have an release schedule agreement with google to delay the progress on competing products.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] billybobray:
Any news? Does the jelly bean update allow you to run any apps in split screen mode?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Justinchi:
where have u been, lol? You can run all sort of apps in split screen mode with some tools on the forums.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1998133
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] se1988:
But it does not allow you out-of-the-box like note 2 or S3. But I'm sure it will get the feature soon.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mickfitz:
Asia still waits...

Wtf Samsung. Give me Xmas present.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fards:
Eh?

Press the /\ in the middle of the taskbar, there's quite a few there, out of the box
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
The Note 10.1 was the first Samsung device with multiview when it launched on ICS in August. JB just merged the mini-apps and multiview apps and added a few more.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Smokie Smokerson:
I dont mind the wait for a 'huge' update like jb, but what I don't like is not even having the Samsung update that fixes the Exfat sd card reader so the sd card I have with my note 10.1 is pretty much useless to me with fat32. Now that is annoying.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
And removed the lag between switching snote with any other multi windows applications..

7 days til Sammy breaks my 2012 jelly bean upgrade promise. Let the count down begins
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Purely a guess but since they've not really rolled out any 4.1.1 updates in meaningful quanitities, and 4.1.2 is being pushed out where JB first started (Germany), maybe their taking a delay and skipping 4.1.1 entirely? The N8010 ROM seemed to have issues the first and latest 3G ROM didn't.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Smokie Smokerson:
I thought it was easier/faster to update sim-free devices..

4.1.2 was just released yesterday for my S3 here.. so im still crossing my fingers to get the note 10.1 this week.. otherwise, 2013 it is!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
I have my note 2 with jelly bean to play with and I just can't go back to that choppy note 10.1. Jelly bean makes a huge difference and if Sammy announce more firmware delays, I will be very pissed off.Those unpolished roms out there now seem to not worth my hassle flashing.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Sy Borg:
That makes sense to me. Why bother delivering 4.1.1 to anyone now?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rueben68:
Choppy?? I don't know what you are smoking but my 10.1 is not choppy at all....now granted JB is better than ICS you bet it suppose to be ...lol choppy.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] billybobray:
When I go from one multi screen app to the other it does have some lag there, if jellybean fixes that's I will be well happy. What worries me is if they're skipping, is there a possibility they will just leave us behind and bring the 10.2 out with the upgrade, they aren't the greatest company.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
Well it is bloody choppy and I am not the one smoking here. Read my other threads for my detailed description. Or are you going to say that it doesn't occur on your particular firmware or your eyes are too slow to see, and therefore I must be lying? Son, stop smoking, or you are not going to see your fingers and lose your brain soon.

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Because there are people like me waiting for JB update desperately due to the ****ty GN8010 firmware. And that 4.1.2 update is insignificant and pointless compare to an update from ICS to JB, and hence not worth the delay. You know what Samsung software engineers are like and you surely have seen how they can drag a task over an excessively long period of time. You want a direct update to 4.1.2? Make your wish now and it may or may not come true by Easter next year. I am not fancying about 4.1.2, but only concern about whether Samsung is going to break my 2012 Jelly Bean 4.1.1 update promise.

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I can confirm that multiwindow apps are completely lag-free between switching (including S-Note) on my note 2 with jelly bean, and I am expecting the same for the note 10.1 jb update.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ugotproblemz:
tis the night before chrismas....AND WE STILL DONT HAVE JELLY BEAN! =[
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
Merry Christmas and an unhappy note 10.1
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] smrsxn:
There will be no update for xmas...

Samsung mobile usa posted a xmas advertisement for note 10.1 with ics features.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqI_IgOJgok&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
Sorry Americans. Sammy lied to you about the 2012 Note 10.1 jb update promise
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xuanphucn:
I knew it. samsung is a liar. Guys, we need to stand up and fight for it
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
Those of us in the US shouldn't expect to see Samsung committing to upgrade the 8013 to JB until after Judge Koh issues her opinion on damages in the recent case that Apple brought in California (Apple's got a second case filed in California that won't go to trial until 2014). Both Apple and Samsung will appeal once the judge's opinion on the damages awarded by the jury is issued. Apple should be very concerned about the turn of events since the jury issued its verdict in the case before Judge Koh--the US Patent Office invalidated two of the patents at issue (rubberbanding an pinch-to-zoom) plus a jury in Delaware held that 3 other Apple patents violate patents issued to a consortium that includes Nokia.

The EU is expected to take action against Samsung for supposedly not licensing its technology at fair terms to EU companies. It will be interesting to see if EU "international" products stop getting first upgrade love once the EU takes formal action against Samsung.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
Rubberbranding, pitch to zoom? Why doesn't Apple stop selling iPhone until the notification centre case go to trial??

Screw Apple, look at its share price. Now it is running out of innovation and just trying to sue people for a living.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
samsung has hedged its bets bigtime since beginning litigation with apple in germany at the debut of the galaxy tab 7.7 and the note. it wont stop cutting us short as long as they are in the number two position. they need a structural revamp, take a strong counterposition against apple and really get their customer service up with the superior product they produce.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] crystalstylez:
I still doubt this. They are just taking their time as always.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] se1988:
I was referring to the ability to run ANY app in multi Window, not only the mini apps
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
Based on the jelly bean firmware on my note 2, the multi window feature is no longer just for miniapp, but for full app. And yes there are other non Samsung apps on the list too, and I can split Facebook with twitter on my screen. Others such as Youtube, Lecture Notes, google maps, etc. Whether it can be applied to ALL app I really doubt. However there is a way of editing meta tags to force it to work (though not guaranteed the ui will not fk up when resized) Search it, I saw it in XDA somewhere. If you want them to work out of the box (google play), it is not up to Sammy, but the developers to edit it themselves and ensure it is compatible.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] GSLEON3:
You forgot the $2 billion dollar processor plant in Austin, Texas. The one where Samsung is upgrading the facility (Built just two or so years ago) & expanding it to the tune of an additional $4 BILLION DOLLARS. People forget that Sammy makes half the products that are in just about EVERY device, not to mention their other electronics & appliances.

A billion dollars is the change in Samsung's couch. See Below:

1. Samsung Electronics (the world's second largest information technology company measured by 2011 revenues)

2. Samsung Heavy Industries (the world's second-largest shipbuilder measured by 2010 revenues)

3. Samsung Engineering and Samsung C&T (respectively the world's 35th- and 72nd-largest construction companies - Think Burj Khalifa in the UAE, yeah, BIG HIGH END REAL ESTATE)

4. Samsung Techwin (a weapons technology and optoelectronics manufacturer)

5. Samsung Life Insurance (the world's 14th-largest life insurance company)

6. Samsung Everland (operator of Everland Resort, the oldest theme park in South Korea) and Cheil Worldwide (the world's 19th-largest advertising agency measured by 2010 revenues)

Samsung produces around a FIFTH (20%) of all South Korea's total exports and its revenues are larger than many countries' GDP; in 2006, Samsung would have been the world's 35th-largest economy if it were a country.

None of the info above even accounts for the Galaxy S3 or Note 2 or any of the newest tablets. Nor does it mention any of the numerous Subsidiaries and affiliates of Samsung, of which there are many. Given that Sammy is having a record year, I am sure all the above numbers could easily be adjusted upward.

BTW, You are a bit off on your quarterly estimates, even from last year which are:

Revenue	US$ 247.5 billion (2011)

Net income	US$ 18.3 billion (2011)

Total assets	US$ 384.3 billion (2011)

Total equity	US$ 224.7 billion (2011)

Employees	369,000 (2011)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] se1988:
On the XXLSC leak for note n7000 multi windows works for ALL apps.

Of course some apps won't stretch right, others FCs, also Netflix pauses whenever it isn't the active Window, but all apps can be applied to multi window. How well it works, now that's another discussion.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xuanphucn:
sammy is holding that feature for the note 2 10.1, i guess:mad:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
Ok Sammy has officially broke my 2012 jelly bean upgrade promise. Now I am wishing to get it before the next Christmas
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Marlakai:
I don't know why Samsung has released JB 4.1.2 for Europe, yet haven't updated the firmware for their home country here in Korea. :(
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Beards:
They haven't released it in Europe but Germany per se.

We in Europe are just as confused why Germany alone and then taking so long after.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] AleT:
Could be that they found a problem with the German firmware, or maybe they're adding more fixes such as the exynos device fix?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
Lol. 2 months of fixing. What a joke.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] astrocowboy:
Korea firmware update

See this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2044709
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dnanj:
So do you have the N8013 and were you able to flash successfully? Any issues to be aware of?

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
In the EU, Samsung is facing fines potentially as high as €15 Billion for abusing patents by not licensing them at reasonable royalties and attempting to block devices that infringe on their patents that they refuse to license. It's interesting to note that the company that complained the loudest and got the EU to file a complaint against Samsung last month was Apple. This fine, coupled with the large US jury verdict awarded last year has many tech writers speculating that Samsung may embrace MS-based products in the coming year. I don't see Samsung pushing out JB updates in the US until after Judge Koh issues her opinion on the record jury verdict on damages issued in California. It will be interesting to see if Samsung begins to slow down updates to the EU market in light of Apple's influence with regulators. In the second case in US Federal Court in northern California, which won't go to trial until 2014, Apple is alleging that Jellybean violates a number of its patents and names most of the Galaxy line of tablets and phones as infringing products.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] qwerty1q:
Is there any date for 4.1.2 for N8010 in the UK, please?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
Sorry buddy, Sammy is on holiday
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Bulbous:
This EU thing has me confused, I understand that the patents involved are FRAND and should be licensed at reasonable royalties. Just who dictates what is reasonable? From what I heard the negotiations with Apple broke down when Apple refused to pay the amount that Samsung wanted. The same licenses ARE granted to other users, just Apple (who make a mint on ALL their products BTW) don't want to pay the same as others. How is this Samsung's problem?

I am sure that FRAND does not legally allow the Licensee (Apple) to keep reducing the price that they pay to the licensor. If it did then the patents are worthless.

So Apple refused to pay but still used the patents anyway. How is this fair?

Incidentally if JB violates Apple patents then why don't they go after the people that developed JB? or don't they actually want to take on another US company in the US courts?

Steve
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] schnurrbidurr:
This is the reply I got from Samsung UK Customer Services this morning:

Thank you for contacting Samsung.

Regarding your query please be advised that there currently is no official release date for a newer firmware version for your product. :crying:

Why am I not surprised?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lisa2blonde:
I have only had the note n8010 just over a week and already im frustrated with Samsung and JB upgrade. When my microSD arrives i think im going to try and flash the German version. will it be easy to flash a UK version when it's finally released?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
Actually, the Wall Street Journal speculates that as the patent wars heat up this year that the 4 big US companies (Facebook, Amazon, Apple and Google) are converging on each other's markets and may wind up battling each other in more patent disputes. As for the EU, if Apple can get the ears of regulators and get them to act on Apple's behalf, it's definitely a cheaper course of action. It may also signal to Samsung and other tech companies that the EU is becoming a problem market.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] schnurrbidurr:
Check here
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lisa2blonde:
Thanks... so it is possible to change 'something', perhaps SCS, to get future updates from UK. The last thing I would want to do is to attempt to 'go back' to ICS from JB but I would like future updates if possible. Have said that, if Samsung are giving up on distributing JB to the note 10.1 N8010 then it makes no odds i guess as that would mean no future updates either!

hmm... what to do...lol
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] timkd127:
This may have been asked already but i couldnt find it, does anyone know when JB is getting released for the 10.1 in the US?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jamesc760:
JB for US Note 10.1 won't be released by Samsung until after Apple extorts billions of $$$ from Samsung. When it happens, Samsung may be too heart broken to give us the update.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] timkd127:
:crying:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] schnurrbidurr:
l believe there is a way of changing the CSC with an app available in google play, but I'm not sure.

I'm currently in the same boat as you.My opinion today is, that I'm probably just going to root for now and sit it out. I have asked Samsung, why some countries get an update and others don't. Not that I expect an honest answer, though.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Justinchi:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1998133 Multiview Tool
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] tankjay:
Samsung Disappoints

Seems like almost everyone is getting JB other then 8013 owners in US - are we aware going to see JB on Note 10.1 and even if we do (magically) I don't think we will see any update whatsoever.

I am seriously considering Nexus 10 now (I kept Note 10.1 thinking with JB, Pen and Sam TW this is going to do the job for me but I haven't used Pent as much and I think we are at the stage where we can just forget about officially getting JB, only TW isn't enough for me to stay with Note 10.1.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] GETCASHMONEY:
I cant believe you are on this site and you haven't flashed one of the many jb roms available. Its so simple.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] tankjay:
I know, I have started think about it myself - I thought it's going to be here officially so let me just wait but now this is turning into total BS
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] klau1:
why is there canada version yet?

we're not even sueing them!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Markhypnosis:
You will get it. I got mjne today in the UK. Just be patient. It's coming.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] bombamanz:
Hi

I'm from indonesia and i got my JB like 7 hours ago, suddenly my note started to updating itself and voila mine is JB

So i guess everyone will get their JB today

4.1.1 tho, not 4.1.2
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] emilfr:
Same here,,, I also from indonesia and currently live with jellybean 4.1.1
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Smokie Smokerson:
Since you sent this from your 8010, i assume you got the update on it?

Honestly, i dont mind waiting for JB, i just want the minor update to 4.0.4 that fixes the Exfat sd card issue..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] klau1:
Is the JB rom known to fix the ExFat sd card issue?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
Actually, jb turns this into a whole new tablet. Its really remarkable. Some new developer options that fixed a glitch in my screencasting with the s-pen. This tablet is now complete...if only it had an hd amoled display....
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Smokie Smokerson:
No, they fixed it with a minor update from Samsung..

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Rob....it....in

:p
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
Hahahaha, well i had been waiting around for the 8013, and i just fi ally gave up and flashed the german 8010... but were literally less than an hour away from getting a system image of jb for the 8013!!!