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[Galaxy Note II General] nascar24usa:
I really have no idea but it appears the N7105 is international version with no LTE, at least that works with ATT. The N7100 is the model number with LTE that will work with ATT. Is this true? Negri Electronics is selling the N7100, the spec says "4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100". Does this work with ATT 4G LTE? Is this the model, if you want LTE, to buy?

I preordered from Negri a week ago, but definitely want LTE in U.S.so keep order or cancel? Many websites reference in specs LTE but others call for 2 models....anyone really know. Clove U.K. simply calls device Samsung Note 2, no reference to N7100 or N7105. It clearly doesn't show in specs 4G LTE, only 3G.Handtec (U.K.) calls out phone N7100 with the following spec:"3G: HSPA＋ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps) 4G LTE: 100Mbps/ 50Mbps (HDSPA 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)

So which is it? Does anyone know?
[Galaxy Note II General] DanielW81:
I am not sure, but in the fcc documents for the N7105 there's no mention of lte at all.

So I believe that the n7105 is the international without lte.

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[Galaxy Note II General] Jeff_in_LA:
If you live in the US, you want LTE. It's awesome in every respect. It's like having a FIOS line in the palm of your hand.
[Galaxy Note II General] mix1987:
In Singapore, Note 1's model number is GT-N7000 while Note 1 LTE is GT-N7005. I do believe that Samsung's naming format for their international handsets doesn't differ from country to country. Therefore GT-N7105 is Note II LTE. just my educated guess.
[Galaxy Note II General] lawtq:
Correct! The models ending with 05 are LTE
[Galaxy Note II General] Sebring5:
There are at least 5 different versions if not more. Although it is LTE capable, the version sold for England does not have a LTE chip, The German one does but it will not work on ATT. There are no LTE networks in Europe that I know about compatible with ATT LTE bands. If you buy one in Europe plan on using 3G and 2G on ATT. Make sure it has these bands:

2G Network	GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network	HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100

ATT uses 850 and 1900 for 2G and 3G. You need both.

To use ATT LTE you need a chip for this:

LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100.
[Galaxy Note II General] Lucidmike:
From what I can tell, even if you happen to buy out of country versions that are compatible for some LTE frequencies for example AT&T, it may not be as compatible as phones you would get from AT&T directly because of the mix and match LTE spectrums that AT&T and all other carriers have purchased. I'm guessing the days of importing International versions are over if you care about good LTE coverage.

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[Galaxy Note II General] nascar24usa:
Negri Electronics Pre Order Samsung N-7100 Note 2

_______________

Negri lists as follows:

Negri Electronics (Las Vegas) pre order lists the Note 2 as follows:

3G/4G bands 850 , 900 , 1900 , 2100

DATA GPRS Yes

EDGE Yes

Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps

2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100

4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100

If accurate, this will work with ATT LTE, yes?
[Galaxy Note II General] limpman:
here is the lte version from hk web site but not yet official by samsung.

http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=145083
[Galaxy Note II General] vetea:
according to what you can read here : http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3807&c=samsung_gt-n7105_galaxy_note_ii_lte_32gb

N7105 is LTE for LTE2600 (B7) and LTE800 (B20). Those frequencies have choosen for LTE in France
[Galaxy Note II General] lawtq:
I wonder if the Korean LTE one released today will work in uk when our 4g is up and running. Anyone know?
[Galaxy Note II General] mwarner:
I didn't realise just how many Note II variations have been / are being released!

GT-N7105

LTE2600 (B7), LTE800 (B20)

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3807&c=samsung_gt-n7105_galaxy_note_ii_lte_32gb

SGH-i317

LTE700 (B17), LTE1700/2100 (B4)

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3826&view=1&c=samsung_sgh-i317_galaxy_note_ii_lte

SHV-E250S

LTE850 (B5)

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3851&view=1&c=samsung_shv-e250s_galaxy_note_ii_lte

SPH-L900 (CDMA)

LTE1900 (B2), LTE1900 (B25)

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3832&c=samsung_sph-l900_galaxy_note_ii_lte

SCH-R950 (CDMA)

LTE850 (B5), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE1900 (B2), LTE700 (B12)

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3877&c=samsung_sch-r950_galaxy_note_ii_lte

Reading the following suggests that the Korean version (N7105?) supports all three networks - SKT, KT and LG U+:

http://sammyhub.com/2012/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-note-ii-for-south-korea/

... and, according to the following article, the only frequency supported by KT is 1800Mhz:

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/08/15...e-for-8001800-mhz-lte-service-on-next-iphone/

This would suggest that the Note 2 for Korea supports 800, 1800 & 2600Mhz.
[Galaxy Note II General] webbyboy:
Korean versions:

SK's SHV-E250S Supports Band 3 and 5

KT's SHV-E250K Supports Band 3 and 8

LG's SHV-E250U Supports Band 1 and 5
[Galaxy Note II General] Liquidpain:
So basically if I'm on ATT here in the states with my Note 1, I should cool my jets and wait for the official US ATT version comes out instead of jumping the gun and getting an international version. Am I correct?
[Galaxy Note II General] exparanoia:
This GT-N7105 sold on NegriElectronics details these LTE bands:

4G Network	LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
[Galaxy Note II General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Unfortunately, I think Negri Electronics is misinformed over the specs of the N7105. Although they list the necessary LTE bands for AT&T, I believe that may be incorrect. According to Android Authority and the FCC, the N7105 does not support USA/Canada LTE bands sadly... I hope we're all proven wrong soon though!

Alternatively, assuming all other features and hardware of the AT&T/Rogers Note II are exactly the same as the international N7105, then it's likely possible that we can simply flash N7105 firmware out of the box, but continue to use the modem.bin from the carrier firmware for continued LTE functionality. That's what I did with my OG AT&T branded Galaxy Tab, and it worked brilliantly!

So, to recap:

1. Int'l N7105 is likely NOT North American LTE friendly :'(

2. North American carrier branded GSM/LTE Note 2's will likely have 99.9% identical hardware to Int'l N7105 (the .1% difference being the tweaked LTE radio and modem.bin driver file)

3. Possible workaround for North American users would be to get GSM carrier Note 2, retain modem.bin from carrier firmware, flash Int'l N7105 firmware, flash carrier modem.bin, and viola! North American LTE friendly Int'l Note 2!
[Galaxy Note II General] exparanoia:
Hmmm, I may have to contact them for clarification and cancel my order if that's the case.

Will update when I get feedback from them.

Edit: Talked with a Negri CS rep, and he suggested I cancel my pre-order and wait until they receive units to verify compatibility. That's what I have just done.
[Galaxy Note II General] EmptyArea:
Engadget have a review up with the lte bands and model numbers. BUT

they don't list the 7105 as having band 1800 which is EEs network yet EE are set to sell the lte variant next week. :-/
[Galaxy Note II General] battletank:
EE's LTE Variant

T-Mobile UK called me yesterday to confirm that they've received stock of the Note 2 LTE. I received a text to confirm that one of these is scheduled for delivery to my home within the next four hours (by midday UK time). Once it arrives, hopefully I can tell you exactly which bands in addition to band 3 (if any) are supported.
[Galaxy Note II General] lawtq:
Thought u couldn't even attempt to buy these until after the 15th? U know someone behind the scenes?
[Galaxy Note II General] Dexter_nlb:
i was looking at the N7100 boot and there is a cpb binary that loads the radio firmware, and looking at its binary content, it looks like its checking OEM hidden information and use lte maybe depending on this, but could also just be a chipset id.

but!

maybe its there, just not enabled for N7100.

we probably need to check the modem.bin, from a stock N7105 when it arrives and maybe hack the cpb binary to utilize LTE for that chipset if the details are placed in a OEM area, together with the flash counter.
[Galaxy Note II General] battletank:
No, nothing so fancy. I tried to order it online on Sunday night, but received no confirmation email, so I phoned the following morning. The helpful customer services lady said she'd call back when they'd arrived in stock. I got her return call yesterday afternoon, and confirmation of the delivery via UK Mail first thing this morning.

As soon as the package arrives, I'll share what information I can.
[Galaxy Note II General] lawtq:
I see. PM sent
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
Very interested to hear what bands the UK EE LTE Note2 version covers as I will only purchase if it covers 800 1800 2600

A Guy at Orange UK sales yesterday had no idea where to find the info on the phone, can someone direct me to the menu showing the bands (if its in the menus).
[Galaxy Note II General] :
This isn't the future I was promised. One phone multi bands, with multiple radio's, seamlessly switching back and forth no matter where you are in the world. I should find my 3rd grade teacher.
[Galaxy Note II General] exparanoia:
I re-visited Negri Electronics' site this morning and they seem to have change the LTE bands in the description of the GT-N7105.

These are the updated bands (not sure if accurate but worth pointing out)

4G Network	LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600

Changed from:

4G Network	LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100

Anyone know if that would be compatible with any of the North American LTE bands?
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
I just called T-Mobile UK to ask for details & they stated they have not as yet received stock of Note2 LTE
[Galaxy Note II General] lawtq:
This is what I was told also. Was told they're getting them end of week to try and have them at peoples front door on the 15th.
[Galaxy Note II General] battletank:
If it seems too good to be true...

Yep, so a phone arrived. It was the LTE version of the S3, not the Note 2; they *had* charged me for the Note 2, just I think the woman who phoned me to tell me it was in stock got confused.

And let me tell you, T-Mobile's process for returning incorrectly delivered handsets is a pain.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
Why worry, its incorrectly delivered so it's their problem not yours, I would be in no hurry to put myself out to return it if your correspondence with them has been to purchase a LTE Note 2.

Your under no obligation to even walk to a post office. Make them collect it .. if they want it back.

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Lawtq.... exactly, I spoke to an Orange UK Rep who insisted his iphone5 had the two future UK LTE bands 800 & 2600 in it & Told me all 4G phones sold in UK will work in the US.

When I corrected him he said it had 4G in his iPhone menus so must be correct :D

These are the people we are dealing with!
[Galaxy Note II General] battletank:
Aha, but that's where their system is brilliantly unpleasant. I have to reorder the Note 2 if I still want one, and I won't get the £79 I paid for my first Note 2 order credited until I return the first handset.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
Order the note2 from Orange & you have a S3 for £79 if they don't collect it :)
[Galaxy Note II General] veletron:
T-Mobile told me that UK LTE was 700MHz !!! At that point I gave up trying to find out about note2 lte.

Nigel
[Galaxy Note II General] EmptyArea:
The only credible source is Samsung. Period.

*Edited reliable for credible.
[Galaxy Note II General] karthigan:
Must Be N7105....

Hi Everyone,

As per Telus Carrier in Canada, Note 2

is coming

as of October 30th.

As per their Specification Information (on Telus Website): LTE: 700MHz (Band 17) / 2100MHz (Band 7).

So, based on this information, I am guessing it will be the N7105 Model of Samsung Galaxy Note 2.

Furthermore, it is also confirmed as per GSMArena website.

The N7100 - International Version -

DOES NOT

have LTE.

I am just going to wait it out and see what happens. What interests me is the LTE Speeds and would like the members of the XDA community to support more custom ROMS. They already have some good custom ROMs for the N7100 version. The custom ROMs really improve the device from a stock out-of-box perspective, including better speed of operations, smoothness, and less or eliminated "carrier-branded blogs", and the most important of them all: better battery life.

Since between N7100 & N7105, not much is difference, except with the LTE Chipset, do you think Custom ROMs would be hard to come by? or the custom ROMs designed for the N7100 would be ported to the N7105? I mean, the only differences that would be expected is the "modems", right?
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
I was checking the specs on the N7105 here http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3807&c=samsung_gt-n7105_galaxy_note_ii_lte_32gb

Its shows 800 & 2.6 LTE as secondary parallel bands which is what I've been wanting to see on one before i buy being the current & future planned UK LTE bandwidths.

But i want that confirmed from UK Orange/T-Mobile & they can't even clarify a model number :-\

Its important for me to get the specs confirmed from the people im giving my money to as i can hold them to it if its not correct.

Also on that page is a mentioned N7108 ??
[Galaxy Note II General] karthigan:
So Many Models....

So with regards to reply for

Pat

above, it appears we have multiple model #s for the Galaxy Note 2, with the following Cellular Networks that is supported:

Samsung SGH-i317 Galaxy Note II LTE

GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)

Samsung GT-N7105 Galaxy Note II LTE

GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)

Samsung SCH-R950 Galaxy Note II LTE

CDMA800 (BC0), CDMA1900 (BC14), CDMA1700/2100 (BC15)

Samsung SCH-i605 Galaxy Note II LTE

Dual:Cellular-Network_Operation: Parallel operation

Secondary+Cellular+Networks: CDMA800 (BC0), CDMA1900 (BC14), LTE700 (B13)

Secondary+Cellular_Data+Links: cdmaOne, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A, LTE

Samsung SPH-L900 Galaxy Note II LTE

GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)

Samsung SHV-E250S Galaxy Note II LTE

GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)

Samsung Galaxy Note II SC-02E

GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS800 (B6), UMTS850 (B5), UMTS2100 (B1)

Samsung SCH-N719 Galaxy Note 2 CDMA

CDMA800 (BC0), CDMA1900 (BC14)

So, which one to choose ? LOL! I wish the Canadian Carriers Release the Model #s!!!

Given the fact that the Canadian Carriers - Operate on the 700MHz (Band 17) / 2100MHz (Band 7) frequencies for their LTE Network anyways & 3G is on 850/1900 Mhz (GSM), I think the safe-bet models would be: SGH-i317, SPH-L900 & GT-N7105.

Also, Bell Canada (which shares the LTE Network with Telus) - All of them operate on the bands: 700 Mhz / 2100 Mhz (AWS) for their LTE Networks.

This

is not

to be confused with AWS Freqency for Wind Mobile, Mobilicity, etc. carriers
[Galaxy Note II General] exparanoia:
Samsung SCH-i605 Galaxy Note II LTE

Looks like it should work on Canadian LTE networks. LTE700 right.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
Hmmm, thanks for that list but none of those show the three UK LTE bands

800Mhz

1800Mhz &

2.6Ghz that I'm seeking, in addition to the GSM/3G UK Bands.
[Galaxy Note II General] karthigan:
Hey, I think it won't be the SCH-i605, since it is targetting towards CDMA networks. The Big Three (Bell, Rogers & Telus) use GSM-based networks.

So, I think GT-N7105 & SGH-i317 would be the choices. Also, since "GT-Nxxxx" series were never really distributed among the big three, we always had the "SGH-ixxx" models here in Canada.
[Galaxy Note II General] Funk2641:
This is wrong. The N7015 model has Euro LTE bands, not Canadian/American bands.

The Samsung SGH-i317 Galaxy Note II LTE is the one used by ATT/Telus/Rogers/Bell. My proof:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-reveal-atts-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-sgh-i317/

If you recall, the ATT version of the GS3 was the exact same as the Rogers/Bell/Telus version.

You want SGH-i317
[Galaxy Note II General] karthigan:
Hi

Funk2641

, I do agree with with regards to the SGH-i317 model.

However, I believe GT-N7105 should work as well, since in accordance with GSM Arena's Website: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii_n7100-4854.php - under "4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100 - N7105".

Unless it is a mistake on their website

, the Carriers in Canada (The Big Three) is running the LTE on 700/2100 Mhz.

Therefore, that's why I think GT-N7105 would still work on the LTE network in Canada.
[Galaxy Note II General] sewe:
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-n7105-galaxy-note-ii-16gb-unlocked-marble-white.html

GENERAL2G NetworkGSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G NetworkHSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100

4G NetworkLTE 800 / 1800 / 2600

Skickat från min GT-I9300 via Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note II General] Steve113:
Other than the LTE difference between the 7100 and 7105. Is it true that the N1700 is more powerful?

There is at least 1 video suggesting this (i dont know how true this is):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6frJcsAh0

Or better yet are there any benchmark videos out there to compare the two side by side.
[Galaxy Note II General] km2783:
in Hong Kong at least...

http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consum...-N7105TADTGY-spec?subsubtype=lte-mobile-phone

800/1800/2600MHz for the GT-N7105 according to Samsung's site, for Hong Kong, though. But it does mention that it's the GT-N7105.
[Galaxy Note II General] exparanoia:
I'd like to know that too. A side-by-side comparison/benchmark for the N7100 and any LTE capable Note II. LTE isn't worth a 25% reduction in performance.

Hmmm, that's what Negrielectronics posted as well.
[Galaxy Note II General] SaiDriod:
HK Website show FM radio & Battery Differences for 7100 & 7105

I found this.

Take a close look at FM radio & battery standby (2G especially).

It implied that LTE version seem to consume more power even though same 3100mA.

Can someone run a check on this please?

Sadly i can't post out side link. So search in Google.

samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/productcompare GT-N7105TADTGY &prdb= GT-N7100TADTGY
[Galaxy Note II General] EmptyArea:
4g will use more battery. I don't think there's any debate on that, but if we're talking 05 vs 00 with 4g disabled I'm guessing/hoping there's no difference.
[Galaxy Note II General] kelzad:
Thats what I would love to know as well!

Battery life test for N7100 vs N7105 with 4G disabled.
[Galaxy Note II General] exparanoia:
Yes it's obvious that with 4g enabled it will use more power, but as in the video he posted (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6frJcsAh0) The N7105 loses 25% on a benchmark versus the N7100, I believe that is more of a concern than is battery life since that is to be expected.
[Galaxy Note II General] jeffs99:
Yes..,.

The only version of the Note 2 that will be compatible with AT&T LTE is the AT&T version coming out soon. None of the international versions 7100, 7105 will work on or is compatible with AT&T LTE. HSPA+ yes, LTE no...
[Galaxy Note II General] SaiDriod:
Exactly, I see alot of review on 7100 but the detail as in 7100 vs 7105 are still not complete. This week Singapore will lunch 7105, so when I get it I will update again.
[Galaxy Note II General] vadgri:
Nobody in the video mentioned that tested SGNII was actually N7105. So it may be American LTE version on Snapdragon chipset.
[Galaxy Note II General] exparanoia:
The North American version (at least the Wind/Mobilicity/T-Mo) http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3853&c=t-mobile_samsung_sgh-t889_galaxy_note_2 has an Exynos.
[Galaxy Note II General] vadgri:
This is not a LTE one.
[Galaxy Note II General] damitch300:
Will there be a Dutch (Netherlands) 4G (LTE) version of the GNOTEII?
[Galaxy Note II General] vadgri:
I could not find which LTE band is allocated in Netherlands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

If same as at the rest of EU then N7105 should be OK.
[Galaxy Note II General] bpwsource:
Explanation?

Can you provide some more detail and explanation as to why the LTE N7105 will not work on ATT LTE? According to the specs it can support US band frequencies.

Thanks.
[Galaxy Note II General] Steve113:
has no one been able to do a benchmark and a quadrant tests between 7100 vs 7105?

surely this device has become more widely available by now.

I cant see anything on youtube
[Galaxy Note II General] tbong777:
YES WAIT..if you want LTE. I am doing the same even though LTE is not here yet for ATT. I have seen it run on Verison at 12MBPS DL very nice.. Worth waiting for if you are going to otherwise spend $600 for a phone. I could upgrade to an iPhone 5 sell it and buy an International Note II.

The cost would be the same if I just waited...so I will wait.
[Galaxy Note II General] bpwsource:
I posted my n7105 antutu benchmark results in one of these threads. it was around 12600 total, I believe. there are screenshots attached to the thread as well.
[Galaxy Note II General] hammody:
Hi,

I'm planing to buy a galaxy note 2. When I found out that the first released version is non LTE, I decided to wait for the LTE version. Especially the price of the two devices is the same (kinda no brainer). However, I started to see some comments that not all ROMs and tweaks for the non LTE (7100) would work on the LTE version (7105) - please correct me if I'm wrong. So thinking about it, the non LTE note 2 is more common and will have much more support from developers. In addition, the only network that has LTE in the UK is EE, and the note 2 doesn't support its frequency (1800 I think).

So what do you guys think?
[Galaxy Note II General] apn3a:
any news on the battery life of n7105? is it true that it consumes more battery even with LTE off?
[Galaxy Note II General] veletron:
According to the specs that have now appeared, note 2 N7105 does do 800,1800 & 2600. But, have you seen EE's pricing? ? Utter madness. A data centric network with no Data!! Aside from LTE, there is another reason to get the N7105 though, and that's its DC-HSPA+42 support, the 7100 only does HSPA+21.

Nigel
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
Exactly, they can shove that, I'm not even going to consider an EE plan until the competition arrives. But will pick up an lte note to replace my note. Now its confirmed to have 800MHz & 2.6Ghz.
[Galaxy Note II General] veletron:
http://m.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer...products/lte-mobile-phone/GT-N7105TADTGY-spec

Mobicity would appear to be the only place you can buy it from in the UK. No idea what they are like.

http://www.mobicity.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-note-2-4g-lte-n7105.html

£649 (OUCH) it was 599 a couple of weeks ago. £485 for the non lte version so that's one massive premium. I asked three if they had plans to sell 4g ready phones - was told 'no not until network launches' so ill just stay out of contract until then. Three also commented that they had not decided how to market it - I.e whether they would add 4g to their existing network so that folks with a 4g phone would just get it, or rob folks blind for it on a premium contract like like EE has.

Nigel
[Galaxy Note II General] EmptyArea:
You can buy from Orange for £509 inc £10 credit. Its locked but for how long :p
[Galaxy Note II General] veletron:
I moved from 3 contract to EE sim free rolling contract. Not impressed with EE very slow speeds compared to three, and lots of pregnant pauses. The data delivery gives up for a few seconds rather too often. I suspect their 3g offering will get artificially slowed down to make 4g look better too.

Nigel