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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Err0xx:
I *clearly* said in my post that it is a combo of SOFTWARE and HARDWARE. They didn't feed me any lies. The new spen has roughtly 3.5 times the detectable hover-distance. With the current spen, you'd have to be around 4mm distance from the screen. With the new one, it's detectable up to 14mm from the screen. If you're trying to "hover" while, say, as a passenger in a car and you hit a bump, it's easy as hell to accidently "tap" the screen with the hover-distance of 4mm, but much harder with 14mm.

I didn't mean that new hardware was required for all of it to work, but new hardware is required to work at the intended 14mm, which is a zillion times more useful.

The other "spen feature" I was referring to is the Note 2 being able to detect when the spen isn't in the silo. That is HEAVILY hardware dependant and the Note 1 will never have that capability. Don't assume all the "tricks" or "features" I mentioned are software only - I never said that.

Let's see if that S3 processor in the original Note is able to handle the new spen features such as the hover select in videos, etc. I'll wager it isn't.

Good luck having any of this "implemented" as slow as ROMs, both CM10, AOKP and otherwise have been to put in any spen features thus far.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Scythe024:
i love what they did with the note 2 and pretty much set on upgrading for the quicker response and better screen as long as theres no black crush. Although after owning a nexus 7, im really curious to see what the next google phone will bring. if it is a 5" phone, i may jump ship
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] petard:
I might. If I get another Android soon it will probably be the Note 2. The I717 has such a garbage processor and too little RAM for ICS and JB to run well. Apps always getting killed in the background, especially Chrome.

My next phone with be a Windows Phone though, either the Lumia 920 or an ATIV S. I'll see if I miss the gigantic screen and might get a Note 2, also. Either way, getting rid of my I717.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mazdamiata210:
I heard from an AT&T retail employee that the Note II is going to be released next quarter.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Err0xx:
I agree that the processor and ram are indeed very lacking. I thought they were decent till I got my 3g Note 10.1.

I will be browsing and come back to the Internet 25 minutes later, after using no less than 20 apps, and bam- its right where I left off on the Note 10.1. If I close the browser on the Note 1, and go to 3-4 apps and come back to the browser it has to reload. The 2 gigs and quad exynos are marvelous. Can't wait for the note 2.

Same issue with 3d intensive live wallpapers (Which I LOVE). They make the Note 1 lag - don't care what ROM you're on or what launcher you're using, it lags the device. On the note 10.1, don't care what live wallpaper you have, it doesn't impact battery at all or cause ANY lag. On 3g all day, with auto bright and 3d live wallpaper, I'm getting around 10h screen on time and 23h unplugged before hitting 15% - that's with more than 65% of the 10h using a Bluetooth keyboard to take notes to Google docs with a constant Internet connection and the other 35% playing music over Bluetooth streaming from Google Music with the screen on nonstop. That's killer battery life from the note 10.1 and I expect similar (maybe a bit less) from the Note 2,which will be amazing.

The reason I expect em to be similar is the note 2 has exactly half the screen size of the note 10.1 and a little less than half the battery capacity, with similar processors, RAM, gpu, etc. Considering jellybean is more energy efficient, I expect that the way it handles the OS tasks to offset that battery difference and make the note 2's overall battery performance very similar to the Note 10.1's.

Come on ATT pre orders!

Sent from my Galaxy Note SGH-I717 running STOCK ROOTED.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] wase4711:
i heard from one that it isnt coming until next march
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Scythe024:
Engadget was saying all US carriers will have it mid oct-nov and they already reviewed a sprint note 2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] diamantericos:
I saw that too i want i want i want.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DeRock13:
I love my Note, but I'm going to upgrade.

I'll be able to get it at about the subsidized price out of pocket (Buyback at Best Buy) without extending my second line so I can cancel it a couple months later.

Sent from the White Monolith
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Suzook1:
http://gizmodo.com/5945272/samsung-galaxy-note-ii-hands+on-bigger-better
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jev3gs:
Note 2 for sure for me. I left the i717 for the S3 and that cpu and 2gb of ram is really nice. How honestly I would have kept the original note if it was quicker.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Noob4Life:
Already planning on upgrading when it comes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sunny68:
Yes. Because I need 2GB ram. 1GB is not eniugh.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ElAguila:
After seeing that the US version would get the samsung processor I was decided on getting it. Now I don't know whether to upgrade to it or sit tight on my note until the Galaxy S4 is released next year. After seeing the specs that are supposed to be on it I may go with that instead.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gregsarg:
Nope...

I still havent been able to brick this one yet......g
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rhacy:
Knocking on wood... +1! Maybe next Spring.... Double the RAM would be nice...

Best to all,

R
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Dr. Evo:
Samsung Mobile USA follows me on Twitter. They sent me a personal tweet, today, and when I mentioned I was waiting on the GNote II they sent me this link...

The Next Big Thing: Galaxy Note II

Quoted from the article:

So basically all U.S. major carriers will see the Note II before November or mid-November at the absolute latest.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rambo6:
After running with the international versions of the Galaxy S and the Galaxy SII for a couple years, I bought a AT&T Note SGH-I717 which has the Qualcom hardware . I wasn't really happy with the performance and battery life and fact they omitted the FM radio. So I also bought the N7000 International Note. I must admit I like the N7000 better. Its Exynos hardware his smoother with better battery life than the AT&T Note. I skipped the AT&T Galaxy S III because it has the Qualcom hardware like the AT&T Note and no FM radio.

If AT&T gets the Exynos Quad Core Samsung Hardware with FM radio and LTE, Count me in!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] chriskwarren:
I have an upgrade coming Nov. 7. I'm in Canada, so I'm hoping that Bell will have it soon.

Or maybe, a quick drive to Buffalo NY (2 hours away) will get me the Note II in November, and I can sell my upgrade (if it takes a long time for it to be released here....)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] vicoleon:
I dont think so

I dont think Note will be ever be upgraded.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Suzook1:
US Cell is shipping by the end of Oct. My source at ATT assured me again, Oct 21 IS the day for the Note II to become available (and that means in stock)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] planoman:
Heck yes I am getting the Note 2! Can't wait to see that quad core and LTE in action with 2 GB RAM and all the new features!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jghidalgo307:
I read that the T-Mobile one won't support LTE even though T-Mobile is rolling out lte next year. If that's the case I'm staying with my note (heartbroken)

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Eric-1987:
Why do people complain about data thats not LTE? A 10mbps downlink is more than enough for any cell connection!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jghidalgo307:
Why pay the same price for a device that doesn't have the same capabilities as the other ones? That's like buying a civic at the same price as a Mercedes and find it ok because either one can take you places.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Suzook1:
Wow.......fastest speed yet. In Orlando FL
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Eric-1987:
You aren't paying the same price.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Err0xx:
Um yea you are. You're paying for an LTE device. If you're only getting 3g speeds, you've paid for hardware that isn't getting used. Go buy a Ferrari and get home to find out it has a Ford focus engine in it. I'll bet anything you'd want that fixed.

Or if the tmobile note 2 doest have LTE but costs the same as all the note 2 variants that have LTE, that's the same as the honda/Mercedes comparison above.

Sent from my Galaxy Note SGH-I717 running STOCK ROOTED.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] flymacs:
2 gigs of ram and quad core exynos with LTE! I'm in. Besides, I want to future proof as much as I can before Apple blocks it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gregsarg:
It's going to be a great device ..

And I'm glad that the good people here are able to upgrade and enjoy such an amazing piece of technology ..

Sadly I'm not upgrading yet ....

I'm gonna miss you ladies and gents once you hop into a new Forum ..

So before I forget ....(old age and medication )

Thanks for putting up with this old guy ....and y'all enjoy the great hardware ....g
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] petard:
The Galaxy S3 for AT&T uses a Snapdragon S4 which is very fast and battery efficient. The Note uses a Snapdragon S3 which is utter garbage. Not all Qualcomm chips are bad, but make sure to look up if the device is using a good one before buying it.

Plus Qualcomm chips have better ROM support. Samsung doesn't release usable source code for Exynos so custom ROMs tend to suck on Exynos devices.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Eric-1987:
Not exactly. You're paying for lte on Verizon and att not T-Mobile. Not to mention unlimited. So good deal to me and not the same price.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jghidalgo307:
I'm referring to the price of the phone itself. No contract.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DeRock13:
I'm not paying any more for LTE than before I had LTE on AT&T. It's the same price as before with my grandfathered Unlimited Data.

Sent from the White Monolith
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] erick161:
Really? But doesnt the international note have way more ROMs than we do...as does the sgs3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] petard:
Here is where I read it

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=31873214&postcount=7773

So it seems that if Samsung releases an official ROM with say ICS, then you can make decent custom ICS ROMs. But those proprietary files can't be used to make a decent JB ROM. You'd need to wait for a JB ROM to be released first.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Err0xx:
Ill bet the 16, 32, 64 gb variants cost tthe exact same on tmobile as the lte ones on other carriers. There is no price difference between lte and non Lte on att or Verizon. You're paying the same for a note 2 on tmobile as other carriers but not getting Lte.

You're either not understanding me or something. I dunno wtf your talking about.

Att 64gb Lte note 2 = around 499 on contract.

Tmobile 64gb non Lte note 2 = around 499 on contract.

Difference between att and T-Mobile note 2 despite the same cost = att has lte and t mobile doesn't.

What do you not get?

Att and Verizon have NO EXTRA CHARGE for lte compared to 3g......

How is that a good deal to you?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ray_Banci:
I really just wish there can be a minimal stock ROM for the note 2 with alot of RAM tweaks and SD card optimization and all that jazz- All the while leaving touchwiz inplace.

I really want my spen apps back so badly but cm9 is just too zippy and fast and clean for me to go back to a stock ROM.

-sigh-
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] baudilus:
I don't think we will get the different storage options. AT&T only sells the 16 GB GS3, so I expect the same will be true for the Note 2.

I think the $299 price is a little steep considering I only got the Note about 9 months ago. At $199 I would definitely re-up.

If JB on the Note comes with some of the same software features, I might be able to hold off on upgrading and maybe even cancel one of these phantom upgrade lines on my account. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Russtik:
I think I will keep my extra 80 lines of resolution.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ahmarchi:
2 words:

Hell 2 da yah
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Suzook1:
+1 on the 32 and 64gb not being sold by carriers. Which is a shame

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Think I'm gonna sell my note now before the market gets flooded in about a month :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Tx Redneck:
I reckon I'm gonna do the same.

Saved and Texan by the Grace of God, Redneck by choice.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] borijess:
How much is a used unlocked note going for.

Sent from the TermiNOTEr! ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Suzook1:
A number of reasons. No upgrade coming up. Want it for another carrier such as T-Mobile

I have had no problem selling recent models for good prices even after the next gen just came out

One mans trash is another mans treasure ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] borijess:
So u saying used gnote will get around 400 bucks?

Sent from the TermiNOTEr! ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Suzook1:
that is my guess
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] borijess:
How much will a gnote 2 go for off contract?

Sent from the TermiNOTEr! ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Suzook1:
Probably $699 or more. US Cell says $800
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] subzero_786:
i cant wait for the note 2! Really excited! especially with jelly bean!! its gonna be amazing!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] erick161:
Same reason I paid $475 used months ago. I wasn't up for renewal and wanted the phone. I suspect $350-400 now isn't out of the realm of possibility.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Clark Joseph Kent:
ALCON,

Warning lets be aware of our posts, and stop the back & forth of bashing/trash talking...if we have issues do not continue, just report it and move along.

Thank You.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] :
Nah. I'll stick it out til the end. Not paying full price.

Sent from my Galaxy Note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] borijess:
I might do the same. Cause these jellybean roms are getting faster!

Sent from the TermiNOTEr! ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] slowpc:
Ill see what my discount is at work for it full price.... + selling this one might might it not that bad for an upgrade...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Suzook1:
See what you find out
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ArborRes:
Undecided yet...my Note with flappjaxx's ASOPxXx-v2.1B5 Jellybean ROM running h0tcakez kernel v2.1 is as smooth as my wife's Galaxy Nexus running the JB ROM. It's quite tempting, though, I admit. @.@
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Eric-1987:
You realize our notes are faster than the nexus right?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ArborRes:
Yes, of course. However, most of early JB ROMs don't succeed in making our Note as smooth as the JB ROM on the Galaxy Nexus because they don't handle the hardware acceleration correctly. :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sdelliott31:
Having a family, I only have a set amount to spend on tech toys. I was going to keep my Note and get the Note 10.1 tablet. After a lot of reading I believe I will go Note 2 and get a cheaper tablet.

The Noteworthy Note. Running OBJECTION rc1 UCLF5 / h0tw1r3's r5s1 OC.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Suzook1:
Well just as a test I threw mine up on craislist last night including box,charger, extra battery and cover for $550 and got three hits in the first hour. Now I just don't know if I can live without my note for another 3 1/2 weeks.....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] BoOsT:
If you run AOSPxXx beta 5,its incredibly fast. The way JB is supposed to be.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jghidalgo307:
Where you live? I tried the same for 500 and crickets

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] petard:
$500 and $550 for Notes? Are you guys joking? How come so many people think their Notes are worth that much? I just laughed at those people on CL when I was buying my note last month. I got my Note from eBay for $380 in brand new condition and it included a 16GB class 10 microSD card and a BoxWave rubber case.

Some people on eBay even had the audacity to list their Notes with shattered screens for $350-$400!

If someone would give me $500 for my Note I'd do it right now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Suzook1:
Orlando FL. CL is either hit or miss but I've always had good luck with phones. We have a large contingent of international workers here and usually its a Brazilian or someone from S America that buys my phones. To then its a bargain.

Anyways, I have to wait until we get a confirmed release. All I have is a crappy windows phone as a back up and I can't use that for a month....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Gwanatu:
Absofrigginlutely. Here's my main reason: I'm using the i717 on T-Mobile, and no matter the ROM/radio combination there are always weird things the phone does. Sometimes voice is unstable, sometimes data is unstable, sometimes GPS, etc. Everything is very inconsistent and it drives me up the wall. It'll be nice to not only have a "proper" T-Mobile device, but the power and the features of the Note II are absolutely unmatched. I can't wait to have that quad-core Exynos in my device, going to be SICK SICK SICK!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 918273645ams:
I'm happy with my note as it is. Running PA smooth as butter. I'm going to wait until the next google nexus phone comes out :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mark1s:
I'm disappointed by the screen on the note 2 : still a PenTill display with even less pixels on a bigger screen. + I heard that Exynoss processors are not the as open to rom developers than Qualcomm Snapdragon.

I'm not in an hurry to buy a new phone since I just bought the Nexus 7, I'll wait and see if HTC release a new Nexus (hopefully with quad-core S4 processor and the 1080p screen!)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] madman604:
I did say no previously but now that my local budget carriers Wind and Mobilicity (both AWS) are getting them, I don't think I can resist.

Sent from a phone that's Note-worthy, via XDA Premium HD app.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] HarmonyFlame:
Wrong. The note 2 screen is not pentile nor does it actually look worse for having less ppi. Read phonearenas review of the device to get a better idea of the display.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] erick161:
You do realize a few things....

-The GNote2 is NOT a pentile screen

-1080p is basically pointless and is merely for bragging rights. Will require more processing power/battery

-which brings me to my next point...HTC has NEVER EVER EVER equipped their phones with a proper sized battery...ever.

-if its anything like the OneX, you will have no removable battery or SD card.

...just saying.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ArborRes:
Obviously you did not read my earlier post. I have been running that ROM already and now Beta#6! It is the best JB ROM available now!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Suzook1:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-Review_id3134/page/4

OK I'm sold
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jghidalgo307:
This just reassured what I really wanted to do in the first place. Upgrade.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] nymviper1126:
Was there a certain number you called? Mine is cracked as well, have insurance but not gonna lay out $200 thru insurnace. I will probally get the Note 2 as well, but want to get this one fix/exhanged first. Thanks.

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NVM, i called and said i may be upgrading(and just also added an s3 last month) and didnt want to pay/hassle to replace my cracked one(when it broke they wanted tons of proof /paperwork and $200). They will be crediting me the cost of the deductible that is being added to my bill, and that will also save my early upgrade pricing should i decide to get the Note 2(I definatly will now!). So I wont be shelling out anything!

ATT has been nothing but awesome. I also switched to that shared plan and have 2 lines now with 6 GB for around 145$ a month.(I had 5 and 3, but we dont even come close to using all that)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] McNoob:
Does the International Note 2 have the same hardware as the one for North America? I'm going to France next month and might pick up an unlocked one if I can get 3G speeds on Tmo (on the refarmed 1900 band) -
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] lmike6453:
I.am.upgrading :eek:

battery life, processing power, ram, screen size all increased by a reasonable amount NICE
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rg1973:
Yea international this time no more lame att
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kabuk1:
I think I may just be sold. I'm due for an upgrade in December, so hopefully Tmo will have it by then.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bullseye69:
All I can say is I love my note. (wife hates my new love) Would not mind if I could get the note 2. This note has gone through hell with me. And has many battle scars, dropped over 15 times on concrete and only nics and scars on the trim. If they make the note 2 like this one I see an early B-day present. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Belkiolle:
Definitely

My one gripe with the Note is the battery life and it looks like that is being improved. Everything else being improved is just gravy. I'll have to pay out of pocket since I'm not due an upgrade but I usually end up making 2/3 of that back by selling my old device to a Mexican friend who takes phones back to Mexico and makes a killing off me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] zivan56:
Depends how much it is...I think it will easily be $700 in Canada. So will probably wait a few months to get it...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] skinblues:
I'm considering selling my iPhone 4S and getting the original Note. I had the HTC Magic way back when Android was first released (Cupcake was a big deal) and since then I have had two iPhones, but it's time to return to Android. My contract isn't up until next December and this should last me until then, no sense in spending almost double for a slightly faster processor. Found one relatively new with a spare battery for $400 on craigslist. After selling my iPhone I should actually wind up with some cash in my pocket!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Suzook1:
Buy mine ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] skinblues:
It doesn't have hairline cracks, does it? haha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Zwarx:
Just traded my note for a galaxy nexus. I'm going to miss the screen size, but I'll take the nexus over the OG note any day. My contract isn't up until July 2013, so hopefully the note 3 will be right around the corner!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jghidalgo307:
Mine doesn't. :D

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Suzook1:
Nope. Honestly I've been lucky. Screen is perfect
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] giantenemybird:
This may sound insane considering the Note 2 is my dream phone, but I'm going to get the Nokia Lumia 920.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] cmart4:
I know what u mean..... the 920 looks awesome too, may get it as well as keep my Note. Prob is are there even any worthy apps in the window marketplace?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rootyourphones:
Was going to wait for it but i opt out for iphone 5 i rather have great build quality and apps i need instead of memory hungry battery eaten plastic phone but ill keep my note as a temporary backup until i find a sucker to buy it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] skifreek:
Have fun with the metal showing through on that 'quality built' iphone after a few weeks of handling it. And don't forget that extra row of icons, the most revolutionary advancement of them all!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mad383Max:
If my san gets his way, yes. Wants my note when i do.:what: Told him i was keeping it as backup just to get him going...