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[HTC One S] Kamilr97:
Cross-platform benchmarks are highly inaccurate. These scores mean nothing really, we'll never know how good the A6 chip is unless android is ported over to the iPhone 5.
[HTC One S] youngSWi:
I'm on the evo v 2gb of internal space. I have like 40 apps and 16 games including mc3, bf2, and dead trigger. Still got tons of internal space.

If you are running out of space and have root, try App2SD off the market.
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Why do you keep posting the same post twice?

If 16GB is fine for you, then go for the S.

It is much faster, however, in real world use, there won't be a HUGE difference, the main advantages of the S4 one S, I would say would be the heat or should I say lack of heat build up for the S compared to the GS2 particularly for long gaming periods and more power efficient, thus longer lasting battery.
[HTC One S] louis.b:
HTC: no hype, no substance.
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Now you are just trolling aren't you :rolleyes:

Guess once again you ignored all the great features of the one S, XL and X? Have you actually read any reviews for the phones or are you just like all the other typical sales people in the phone shops who don't have a clue at all?

Not notice how nearly every expert review has spoke very highly of the one X and especially the one S and XL?

They get no hype, but they have a lot of substance, certainly a lot more than apple's products.
[HTC One S] newbieandroid:
Why are all of you mad that a newer phone has a better SoC? I thought that's how technology works. When the iPhone 4S came out no one paid attention to the hardware.

Anyway because of the software on my phone I can find the weather faster. It's simple to find downloaded applications. The icons look elegant and professional. Sure we don't have games like Infinity Blade Dungeons but I'm sure with the launch of the Android Console we will have great games.
[HTC One S] WCCobra:
Normally, I would completely agree with you. However, in this case they are claiming a dual-core device with 1GB ram is faster than a quad-core device with 2 GB ram in a calculation benchmark. Not only can the GS3 hold more in-memory data, but both the GS3 and One X have 2 additional cores to handle more simultaneous processing than the iPhone 5. If by some miracle Apple designed a way to over come that HUGE disadvantage, I will take back everything negative I have every said about Apple. Taking some random benchmark numbers as proof of the iPhone superiority is meaningless.
[HTC One S] :
My thoughts exactly and the S3 running JB gets faster than that
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
It isn't just because of the GS 3/one X compared to the iphone 5 though.

All of the android phone/tablet results are wrong/dodgy looking.

The GS 3 is more powerful than the nexus 7 and the one S/XL is more powerful than both (of course depending on the test/app, but in majority of benchmarks they both come out higher), also it isn't exactly fair comparing the nexus 7, which is on jellybean against phones still on ICS, once the GS 3 and one S/XL get the JB update (assuming optimization is good) then they will surpass the nexus 7 in that test due to the better hardware.

The international GS 3 (quad) only has 1GB RAM, the USA version has 2GB RAM, but it has the S4/adreno 225 chipset instead of the exynos quad.

Also as said above, pointless comparing the two when it comes to benchmarks due to completely different OS's.

BTW, just because the CPU's have an extra 2 cores, does not mean that it is better/more powerful........

i.e. look at all the benchmarks of the XL (S4 CPU) compared to the GS 3 and X (quad core versions)

Surprisingly an extra GB of RAM doesn't actually make that much of a difference either (in benchmarks for android).

The A6 dual core is supposedly just like dual core krait but slightly better, so no doubt the iphone 5 will be the fastest phone in theory.

Plus you have to remember due to the how well iOS is optimized and how it is far more restricted with what you can do, multi-tasking etc. it doesn't need all this extra hardware grunt like android devices.
[HTC One S] WCCobra:
Lets assume the iPhone 5, with it's new CPU, RAM and optimized OS, is 100% faster (per core) than all Android devices. If the iPhone 5 could process 1000 calculations per core/per millisecond (2000 total), this would mean the best android device would only be able to handle 500 calculation per core/per millisecond. Therefore a quad-core Android device would still be able to process the same 2000 calculations per millisecond as the iPhone 5 and should be rated the same.

Now, I highly doubt iPhone 5's CPU/RAM/OS provide it anywhere near 100% faster processing compared to all android devices. I agree that the heavy optimizations Apple has made to iOS and its hardware allows the iPhone to function far better than the Android equivalent on similar hardware. This does not explain why or how in a simple calculation benchmark Apple outscores all Android devices, and in my opinion this just provides more proof that most benchmarks are pretty useless in both regards. The Android devices are still just as powerful if not more powerful than the Apple devices, yet iOS functions just as good if not better than Android on the less powerful hardware.
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
I see what you mean by your first point and agree. Unfortunately with android, a lot of apps/tasks don't fully utilise dual core CPU's let alone quad CPU's :(

Regarding the second point, it is due to better driver/software optimization with the hardware and being able to get the full potential from the hardware, after all Apple only have like 5 phones to work on, where as the likes of HTC etc. have loads of phones with different hardware and software that they need to work on. Plus when I bring up about iOS not having as much to do as android, this will still apply even if all the tasks are cleared/stopped when the benchmarks are being performed, there will still be tasks running in the background that can't be stopped.

Software/driver optimization plays such a large part in performance and battery life. When you compare the GS 3 S4/adreno 225 2GB phone to the quad version and the XL (S4), the S4 GS 3 performs much worse than both when it should be performing much better, at least as good as the XL if not better, even in the battery benchmarks it is considerably worse (the GS 3 S4 version), when in theory it should be the best given the SAMOLED screen, S4 chipset and a bigger battery (although I always take battery benchmarks with a large pinch of salt), of course as you and I have been getting at in our posts, benchmarks don't have any relation to real world usage so in proper use it could be much better. Although some benchmarks are very good accurate i.e. GL benchmark, linpack and sunspider etc. others like quadrant and this Geekbench benchmark aren't great.
[HTC One S] louis.b:
Well unlike other sales people who just keep going on about the specs sheet I also care about customer support and quality control. Im not gonna recommend something which will end up being defective and get returned. Honestly The only HTC phone i will buy at the moment is the HTC One XL because in Australia it has 32GB of internal storage and it has the s4 processor. The rest of HTC products are just not reliable. And this is from my own personal experience owning 2 HTC phones and from following the HOX forum since it was announced at MWC.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
I think everyone missed my sarcasm behind creating this thread. I was showing how my One S got a higher score than the iPhone 5 and ergo all the other phones in the world apparently.
[HTC One S] qwerty warrior:
only beef i got with android is that it has a huge java stack on it that just ruins it

i wish if it was built on a clean linux
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Yes specs. do mean very little if the software isn't optimised to work with the hardware, but having great specs with good optimisation for the hardware can make the device very enjoyable to use i.e. the one series phones compared to the likes of the desire HD. i.e. the one S has the S4 chipset, F2.0 aperture lens etc. and to top it of, have a great chassis with sense V4 (not many people like sense but I love it) have made the one S a wonderful device to use, it has a great camera, superb audio, superb performance and battery life and this is due to the specs./hardware and having good optimization.

With the one s, the only issues, which the majority of people experience are:

- signal issues (supposedly improved a lot with the latest updates)

- some black models chipping (grey model doesn't have this issue)

The one X is very poor regarding quality control, however, supposedly with the new software updates and new batches the problems that plagued it are no longer as much of an issue any more i.e. the screen flex, wifi problems, signal problems, poor performance (still not as good as the S/XL, but with JB it should be in the same league as the nexus 7).

Apart from the one X, desire HD and a few different versions of the international mobiles, the majority of their phones are very good for the lack of problems etc. Every company has quality control issues as well, just not to the same extent as others, even the iphones have their fair share of problems.

As for customer support, I have read bad experiences and I have read great experiences, same applies to every other company pretty much except for Apple, they have top class service all the time and can't be topped.
[HTC One S] nor-ric:
I catched it, instead! And it made me laugh! :good:
[HTC One S] kvnx1337:
I dislike benchmark-Tests at all. They do not show anything. I dont think the iPhone 5 will be faster, btw what means faster?

0,0000001 sec faster while opening a app? Or what? Or the Boot-Path? There even the One S is faster.

One thing I know. On the iPhone I cant open any Zip file, I pay too much money and its a tiny device. Android is for me the best smartphone OS. Even it is 0,0000001 sec slower while opening apps or loading a website. Doesnt matter for me...
[HTC One S] krsk77:
Which one is faster and better and why? Htc one x or htc one s
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
One S:

- faster and smoother, much better hardware, snapdragon S4 chipset is in a league of its own for power, power efficiency and heat

- better audio (should be the same as the X, but gsmarena's test, one S came out as having the best audio ever, GS 3 matches/betters it)

- better build and perceived quality due to the aluminium uni-body

- much better battery life due to smaller/lower res. screen and the more power efficient S4 chip

- more comfortable to use with one hand

One X:

- NFC

- more internal storage

- 720P and larger screen

However, if you get the S3 version of the S, then the performance and battery life will no longer be advantages of the S and you might as well just get the X.

I personally prefer the SAMOLED screen of the one S, due to blacks being black and colours more vibrant/over saturated

Anyway, this is very impressive!

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6309/iphone-5a6-sunspider-performance
[HTC One S] tritran18518:
- I need software improvement than hardware racing. It doesn't matter how many phone you have, as a company who doing business by selling products, you have to make they run at the best as they can. That is your responsibility and there is no excuse for not doing it. Look at what apple do to their iPhones. A three years old Iphone 3gs still gets official iOS 6 update today. Honestly, how many people think HTC will give update for our One S in 2015? ( don't tell me we have our XDA developers , and they will do that if HTC cannot. XDA developers are here to make the phones run better, not to fix those mistakes created by phone companies ).

- Google need to do a lot more to improve Android ecosystem ( get more app developers to make more high quality apps..), do something that can push phone companys/network carriers to deliver software update faster for their products, and most important: optimize Android better to take the advantage of new hardware.
[HTC One S] krsk77:
I'm still not sure because... HOX has quadcore and I will be using the phone for 2 years but, Htc One S is much better looking and I like the size more but, will all the games that come out in 2years still work on One S?
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Just because it has an extra 2 cores does not mean that it is better............

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31643039#post31643039

And yes, all games will still run great on the one S (s4) in 2 years time unless the game is truly demanding in which case not even the GS3 or one X will be able to run it either or the game is just poorly coded.
[HTC One S] krsk77:
Ok I think I'm sure about getting htc one s with s4! Thanks for help!!!
[HTC One S] Activzwerk:
android

Android ist better.....:cyclops:
[HTC One S] krsk77:
I mean htc one s with snapdragon s4 not iphone 4s it sucks. Android rulezzz!!!
[HTC One S] Orical:
Proof that Apple is full of it.

In both cases if it were not for Samsung Apple would still be in the stone ages but how does Apple get off judging Samsung while Samsung's hardware is used in the Iphone. Oh and the facts about the battery are really clear in this pic, Apple can say what they want but in any case its all a lie when they claim to have a superior device.
[HTC One S] el_smurfo:
Is your phone too slow? If not, why care? The iPhone is saddled with way more baggage (i.e. restrictions) so it doesn't matter how fast it is...My IT guy carries two phones, his work iPhone and his personal Android because you just can't run as many network tools on the iPhone because access to the hardware is restricted.
[HTC One S] Simco80:
You guys need to watch XDA TV on YouTube.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7dYK5raCBM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I think he sums it up really well.

Sent from my HTC One S
[HTC One S] khamim:
who need that spec? lol
[HTC One S] McGiver93:
check this. Android 4.0.4 Sense 4.1

Sent from my HTC One S
[HTC One S] nickmv:
Nothing that didn't happen when we went from GB to ICS.
[HTC One S] electr1cz:
Of course the HTC One S is better than the xperia s! I've owned it since it came out and have encountered no bugs at all so far. Custom ROMS only make it better.
[HTC One S] ridearoundsolo:
I just wish we had a better gaming scene, the game developers need to take note of rockstar games because they reached to a good handful of devices and had a display menu in the options which allows u to change how high the graphics can be set too, works for those on a lower end device and those with a better phone can crank them up to the max, reminds me of pc gaming
[HTC One S] fenxer:
Only one test and only one app……perhaps it will be a different result if you change another App.
[HTC One S] qzem:
I think this thread should be closed or at least move somewhere else,cause this has nothing to do with htc one s general section...
[HTC One S] Untouchab1e:
That makes no sense. You can't get an accurate performance comparison between the iPhone 5 and the high end Android devices, simply because they are running two different platforms. Besides, even if a direct comparison was possible, it's still not relevant, because system requirements for the two OS's are different.

What Passbook has to do with anything is beyond me...
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
It does since I posted the score of an HTC One S.
[HTC One S] Untouchab1e:
Benchmark results hardly mean anything here though.. when the Galaxy SIII got Android 4.1, GeekBench scores bumped up and passed the iPhone 5, again underlining the fact that these benchmarks are pretty pointless, especially when youre comparing two different OS's and serves little purpose other than to give people unjustified bragging rights.
[HTC One S] LibertyMonger:
Proof? Reference? This is a crock. Benchmarks prove to be quite accurate. I am no pro but I can clearly see from the devices I have owned that a high score on a stock HTC is much higher than my stock score of my GNex and results end very close to the same each time. It clearly shows the difference in the hardware specs. Much more than just "bragging rights"
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
People are getting too serious. I made this thread as a humourous one, and that should have been quite obvious from my original post. As far as the content of my OP goes, One S General is exactly where it belongs.

If any mod disagrees then they can feel free to close and/or move the thread as required.
[HTC One S] Untouchab1e:
Proof of what exactly? My argument is that comparing performance across different OS's is inaccurate. Just look at how results differs on various devices across Android versions. I'll be happy to post links showing how the SIII results changed when 4.1 came around, but considering its linked to in the first comment on the benchmark posted here, I'm sure you can find it.
[HTC One S] el_smurfo:
These threads are generally pretty worthless, but I tried an iPhone 5 this weekend and it drove me so crazy, I feel like wading in. While the specs might be better, the animations and transitions are sooooo slow, it felt like there was something wrong with the iThing. Using Android, I'm running the nearly absolute latest version, with animations cranked down so they don't interfere with use and it literally feels 3 times faster. Speed of a device like this is mostly a subjective user experience and, for me, the iStuff just doesn't cut it.
[HTC One S] darkfire2040:
My opinion
[HTC One S] Hunt3r.j2:
IIRC Anandtech's incredibly in depth analysis basically concludes that A6's CPUs are basically just a bit faster than Krait, and better idle power consumption but more power consumption under load.
[HTC One S] LibertyMonger:
Quite late to respond but I was just saying your statement that benchmarks hardly mean anything was a crock. I can see pretty accurate results from all the different devices I've owned. HTC one X always comes out on top when I run it with my GNex and when I run it with my one s, it usually comes in first or second to the one X. But now the gS3 has been on top, like you say since it got 4.1
[HTC One S] hiu115:
This guy's post beats anything else.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] grej:
Hi,

I do have GT-P5100 and GT-P7500, both tablets are using ICS Stock ROMs (4.0.x).

In GT-P5100 I do have following keyboard:

In GT-P7500 I do have following keyboard:

Is there any chance to get keyboard from GT-P5100 on GT-P7500? I already tried to copy \system\app\SamsungIME.apk and \system\app\SamsungIME.odex from GT-P5100 to GT-P7500, but it doesn't work. Any ideas?
[Galaxy S II General] reevester:
Hey All!

There is a guide available on how to redeem your Google Play Gift Card from outside the US.

You can read this post here.

Hope it helps!

- reevester
[Galaxy S II General] Prashanthme:
What does this has anything to do with S2?? :confused: :rolleyes: :eek:
[Galaxy S II General] reevester:
Well, I have an S2 and I tested it on an S2! :D

But on a more serious note, Mods can move this to a more suitable thread if needed.
[Galaxy S II General] anshmiester78900:
Great share thanks :)

---------- Post added at 12:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:10 AM ----------

ALso mate do you know any way it i can cheat the play store that im in UK or US instead of India?
[Galaxy S II General] sahibunlimited:
Market enabler...
[Galaxy S II General] anshmiester78900:
Thanks mate .!

Also can you tell me how can i make a US Gmail id ?
[Galaxy S II General] reevester:
Sign up for a GMail account using a US based proxy (P.S. - this is mentioned in the blog post!)
[Galaxy S II General] Sean09:
Is there a way to get it to redeem on Canada for an existing account? What if I actually go to the USA? Seems it is not possible but what do they propose you do if you move?
[Galaxy S II General] DrunkFuX666:
This method requires making of a new Email account with a US region... is it not possible to maybe CHANGE your current primary gmail accounts region to the US...?? I dont want to have some other email address which has all my paid apps on it... whats strange is iv given my email to someone in the US to redeem a card for me right there, Yet its Still saying the card not valid in your region... :S
[Galaxy S II General] Sean09:
Google doesn't let you change it. I have discussed it in length with them and "escalated" the issue only to be told that "if you move, you have to make a new account to change the region". My Canadian account and all its content, then, is completely useless. Hope they modernize and fix this soon. They seem to think it isn't a big deal having to manage multiple accounts.
[Galaxy S II General] DrunkFuX666:
But that's ridiculous... I found where you can change your account region from... but its still giving the same error... that is by far the dumbest thing iv heard... a person is supposed to make a new email address just cuz he migrates...?? And what to do about all the other places your old email id has been in use........ jeez...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Galaxy S II General] Sean09:
Send complaints to them and log tickets. Their poor service won't get any better if people don't speak up!
[Galaxy S II General] DrunkFuX666:
They actually just responded to my email a bit back... what they had to say was you need to have some credit card linked to your account, which has a billing address of that country where you want your account to be associated with... once you have that don't then you can redeem the card, if the credit card entered is a U.S card...

They sent it along with steps of what exactly needs to be done... if you want can post it here...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Galaxy S II General] Sean09:
If you could, because I undertook those steps only to have the box greyed out to change country code. On contacting them again after complying with their US Credit Card demands they then told me it cannot be changed once set to Canada - I have to make a new account for USA. They are probably hoping most people can't do step 1 before breaking it to them that it doesn't matter if they do, since it won't change anyways.