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[Windows Phone 8 General] apollooff320:
my PPC 6800 brought my pants down too. These phones are just getting ridiculous now. Is anyone making any 4 in high end android phones? Don't they know a lot of females don't want huge phones and like to go out with the ladies and do their thing and not be bothered carrying a big phone in their small little purses? It's not just ladies...men like to have smaller phones also that are high end.
[Windows Phone 8 General] AlmightyCushion:
There are rumours of a Galaxy S3 mini being announced soon. In the WP8 camp, Nokia 820 and LG 8X have a 4.3" screen and LG 8S has a 4" screen. 4"-4.3" is where I think the sweet spot is.
[Windows Phone 8 General] lovenokia:
we need to add the nokia lumia 810
[Windows Phone 8 General] stead:
If thats released in the uk that may be something i'd consider getting, i've love the 920 but i'm not willing to pay iPhone prices for a phone...any phone..

Love the idea of a bigger battery with the 810, I hope it does well and others see that slightly thicker with longer battery life is the future
[Windows Phone 8 General] mcosmin222:
What is this elusive nokia 810 you are talking about? can't seem to find it anywhere.
[Windows Phone 8 General] Dr.8820:
The L810 is just an 820 with Tmobile USA frequencies and a different shape.

Sent from the Maverick @ Cedar Point using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
[Windows Phone 8 General] Vanquished:
It's not, people here are stubborn. I'm the same way towards Verizon, I would never go with Verizon (because of a customer service issue years ago). Lucky for me, I am 100% satisfied with the phone offerings on AT&T. I suppose a smaller brand such as T-Mobile, Sprint, or US Cellular might have more competitive pricing however.
[Windows Phone 8 General] nado_x:
Can't they just buy it unlocked?
[Windows Phone 8 General] ohgood:
$100 vs $649.... people are cheeaap
[Windows Phone 8 General] nado_x:
Yea I get that... if people complain it's not available on their carrier then they can't be cheap. They at least have the option to buy it unlocked.
[Windows Phone 8 General] askpcguy:
Same reason I went with a galaxy s2 and two year at&t contract instead of buying an unlocked s3. Cost savings and getting the phone same day.
[Windows Phone 8 General] drupad2drupad:
With $100 aren't there monthly fees? Or are they same as the price plan you would get with $649?
[Windows Phone 8 General] ohgood:
carrier doesn't matter, phones will work on other carriers , but data is slower. unlocked means actually paying less, but people are penny wise, and contracts seem so enticing/cheap.

---------- Post added at 04:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:32 AM ----------

they dictate the terms, the data charges, everything in a contract. whaeever the carrier demands, people pay. head shake.
[Windows Phone 8 General] jabtano:
I'm on US T-MO so That is what I'm going to have to run with on this big family plan. Unless the ATIVs comes to T-MO then it would be that. the real dilemma is come 2013 and will Nokia run the 910 on T-MO so my game plan is the 8x for now and if Nokia or HTC Or Sammy hits T-MO with something better in the coming year then the wife or one of the kids gest this new one...
[Windows Phone 8 General] nado_x:
I'm not going to settle for something. I either get the Lumia 920 or I don't get anything. As far as I'm concerned that's the only real Windows Phone coming this year.

Edit: Though I can only speak for myself in this matter. Either which way, it's idiotic that they've made this phone exclusive to a carrier. People should be able to buy their phones on any carrier they please.
[Windows Phone 8 General] broons:
AT&T is terrible in my area so the 920 just isn't an option. Too bad it would have been my next phone.
[Windows Phone 8 General] morpheus1982:
My HD7 feels light until I pick up my wife's Samsung Galaxy S2, which feels light and cheap to be honest.

BTW, I showed her the 8X and she has been converted once its time for her to upgrade.
[Windows Phone 8 General] nado_x:
Ordered my Lumia 920 today, should be shipped 31.10.2012 :)
[Windows Phone 8 General] PhilAd:
Im going to buy a HTC 8X. In Germany it should be available from the 3rd of november.

The HTC 8X has the same display technology like the HTC One X and I love that Display. Furthermore the Camera has a wide angle lense and the 3.5 Jacket has a 2.5V preamp out. The camera of the HTC One X is pretty good and the camera of the lumia 900 is not really that good. The beats thing should be totally overrated. But most important for me it is much lighter and the screen size is smaller than the lumia 920. I am also not sure about the battery life in the lumia 920. It has 2000mah (the 8x only has 1800mah) but the display technology uses more battery while watching movies and LTE is also sucking more battery (not only because its faster but also because there is no VoLTE here in Germany yet and you need send to GSM/UMTS and also LTE at the same time. Furthermore my Carrier has HSPA with 43Mbps and the 8X supports up to 43Mbits.

In Germany the HTC 8X wont support LTE (different frequencies, my carrier uses 800mhz and 1800mhz). I'll be waiting for LTE when it supports VoLTE and I'm sure that the Carriers will start to Upgrade to LTE Advanced. The phones Nowadays won't support it. So hopefully my next phone will support LTE-Advanced :) In the meantime I stick to HSPA
[Windows Phone 8 General] morpheus1982:
Samsung WP sound quality

Does anyone know what the sound quality (through good earbuds) is like on a Samsung WP device? I know that HTC is great when is comes to audio, and should be even better with Beats.

This reason I ask is because I am being slowly swayed by the Ativ S's big screen, but poor audio will cement me with the HTC 8X. I want to put my dedicated MP3 back on the shelf and travel light. I am waiting for a new phone with a good battery (and audio) before doing this.

Thanks.
[Windows Phone 8 General] thundr51:
With the 920 locked up by AT&T that makes my choices even easier. I am starting to like the look of the 8x as the Ativ just looks so generic. My hope is that someone will figure out how to upgrade the sd card on the 8x and I'll be set. In case anyone is wondering, I want to retire my ZuneHD and move my music to my phone and streaming just wont work..especially at my desk (NO signal at all..)
[Windows Phone 8 General] mcosmin222:
After careful consideration i decided to not get any one of them and stick to my lumia 800.

Problem is, every single one of em has something that makes me meh

Samsung: this is a huge "meh" if you get what I'm saying.

Lumia 920: Still too big for me, and overkill on specs, although the pureview camera looks attractive.

Lumia 820: The resolution sucks, although the specs are nice.

HTC 8X: Its HTC, i want a Nokia if possible

HTC 8s: CPU is too low and might become sluggish over time.

So I'll wait for the second/third line of phones.

Note that this is coming strictly from my non-developer position.

What I would like is max 4inch screen and dual core CPU@1.5
[Windows Phone 8 General] Deformat:
I'm moving for the first time from Android to WP.

I prefer 820, since 920 has a too large screen, and the others, well... don't have the Nokia apps, and don't make me feel way better.

Hopefully will get my hands on it in Dec./January.
[Windows Phone 8 General] oupavoc:
Lumia 920
[Windows Phone 8 General] go0gle:
Yellow 920 for me..
[Windows Phone 8 General] Crumpets:
I'm very much in the same boat. Every phone I've owned, even up to my current phone, which has already got bits breaking off at 3 months old, has been outright & prepaid. But there must be something about the Lumia 920 :P

I haven't been quite so long since a Nokia... This'll be Nokia #4, last one being a 6110 Navigator, back in '09...

#1-3530 (2005) #2-6680(2007) #3-6110N(2009) #4-L920
[Windows Phone 8 General] Dr.8820:
Now that everything is official, looks like I won't be getting any WP8's this go round.
[Windows Phone 8 General] DJRedLine:
looks like 8x for me

phones4u are stocking both the l920 and the 8x. The l920 will be on a EE carrier exclusive though
[Windows Phone 8 General] tatperson:
Now I've a huge dilemma between the Nexus 4 and the Lumia 920 :P

But kinda disappointed that you can't side load apps to WP8 devices nor download content from the browser right on the phone :(

Oh well, maybe next time...

Sent from that Atrix.
[Windows Phone 8 General] bmbrad:
Yeah but the wireless charging is going to be expensive. Your really going to pay at least $100.00 for it? The 920 does have amazing specs but I think the 8x has wins in the color choices by a long shot. I would get 920 but it only going to crappy At&t so I'll pass
[Windows Phone 8 General] george232:
True...it's basically predatory pricing by Google, but as a consumer, I don't have any money to donate to Nokia or Microsoft. So, I could buy the 920, which looks like a beautiful device, or I could just buy the Android-hampered Nexus 4 and the Nexus 7 for the same price...by the way, incredibly stupid decision by MS not to ride the current 7"-tablet wave.
[Windows Phone 8 General] :
i think i'm going to buy the Huawei W1:good:
[Windows Phone 8 General] Pheno.menon:
I was excited about the Lumia 920 for a long, long time.

But, the more reviews and info I read on it, the more I'm becoming sure that it'll be HTC 8X for me. It's better looking, lighter, cheaper, and still comes with Nokia Drive/Maps :good:
[Windows Phone 8 General] dvan13578:
Lol..predatory pricing is when prices are set so low that competitors can't make a profit and are forced from the market. This is simply competition.
[Windows Phone 8 General] solidsnakejv37:
Where did you find out that it comes with Nokia Drive/Apps?

Initially I was leaning towards the 8x.

Then I decided to go for the Lumia, mainly because I take a lot of pictures and has more storage memory, and the Nokia maps.

But I live on long island and it turns out that AT&T doesn't have LTE in my area, and Verizon does. So i'm might have to go with the 8x. If it has Nokia maps it might make it a definite for me.
[Windows Phone 8 General] DoogieDC:
They are all too big except for the HTC 8S. And it is seriously under-spec'ed. So I don't see anything here that can replace my Focus 2 LTE device.
[Windows Phone 8 General] Pheno.menon:
Nokia has said that its Maps/Drive will be available on all WP8 handsets, with it being up to the manufacturer to include them. We'll see Maps for sure (may be renamed), but I don't know about Drive.. hopefully it will be available as a standalone app in either case.
[Windows Phone 8 General] JustinL01:
Underspecced and big. Go and hold the HTC 8x in the hand, perfect size, very comfortable and definitely not too big! As for being underspecced how is a Duel Core S4 processor with 1gb of ram on an efficient OS underspecced, curious?

Cheers.
[Windows Phone 8 General] voyager_s:
Funnily enough, I think the HTC windows phone 8x is my favourite of the bunch now.

I've seen a few reviews now and it looks very nice size wise, and the design is beautiful. Similar to the lumias but a nicer size and weight.

Specs wise they are all more or less the same anyway.
[Windows Phone 8 General] leppo:
The ATIV S is the only viable option for me, due to the exchangeable battery. Never again buying a phone without that.
[Windows Phone 8 General] Initial_G:
I voted for the Lumia 920, the phone just looks great and the hardware looks very high end as well!
[Windows Phone 8 General] robstunner:
Agreed, I really hope they come out with a car dock from HTC directly like the one x has. That dock is such a delight to use that I put my phone in it every time I'm in the car.
[Windows Phone 8 General] Pheno.menon:
That dock looks nice! I've never seen it before.
[Windows Phone 8 General] robstunner:
Very much so it it. coupled with the Car Dock app its awesome to use. Either way, had gotten a HTC 8x and used it for one day before selling it (i bought it for way too much and decided to remake my money and wait for the cheaper off contract price when it comes out next week) and its pretty nice. I wish the screen was a little bigger, and for some reason music wouldnt play over bluetooth to my car stereo. It would only connect for voice calls.
[Windows Phone 8 General] stead:
I'm leaning more and more towards a 8x, had a look at a lumia 900 the other day to see what the size was like, does seem to big for me, so i'm putt of the 920 now :( plus EE exclusivity in the UK!

I do hate this rubbish with non removable batteries tho, the only review I could find about the 820 seemed to indicate it felt really cheap and filmsy, waiting until the 820 comes out in the uk before deciding which one, wasn't going to bother but my phone contract is up and I do resent paying monthly without that 'free' phone
[Windows Phone 8 General] mcosmin222:
Kinda funny how Nokia screws up with this exclusivity stuff.

Carriers won't get any Windows Phone in my country for a while.
[Windows Phone 8 General] backlashsid:
HTC Loyalist...the 8X !
[Windows Phone 8 General] gmfeld:
Got my 8X this morning. After reading a lot about the 920 and 8X, I was sold on it by the Paul Thurott post that it's his WP device of choice. Coming from the HTC Titan, it feels a little small to me and the screen is definitely narrower than what I'm used to. It feels great in my hands, the form of it particularly, The store in downtown Boston was out of all 920's-they sold 45 of them yesterday and not a single 8X. I purchased today the only 8X they received. I have 14 days, I may go back and see if I like the feel and screen size of the 920 better. It was hard for me to tell from the wall mounted 920 models, although they looked more comparable to my Titan in size..
[Windows Phone 8 General] kwiggington:
Is it me or is the 810 kind of a shrunk down 920
[Windows Phone 8 General] askpcguy:
Post some full resolution images from the 8x if you can be bothered.

Bonus is a leaf on concrete with water drops. I have seen that image from the 920 and its impressive.
[Windows Phone 8 General] lumpaywk:
when this thread first started I posted 920 without a second thought. I now have an 8X. The 920 feels fat after holding the 8X and the plastic now feels cheap. Yeah the camera is better and you get 32gb, but 32gb is still not enough to replace my Zune so this is a moot point for me at least. Also the camera on the 8X is actually really good and when you consider the 920 would of cost me £100 and an extra £10 a month the 8X actually gave me £50 cash back. So is a slightly better camera and wireless charging really worth a fatter cheaper feeling phone that costs £390 more?
[Windows Phone 8 General] ff_mark:
Have ordered a 920 on Orange contract , should be here tomorrow and only £28 a month
[Windows Phone 8 General] alphaxi3:
You need another line on that poll "I'm a Sprint Costumer. Sucks to be you." :mad:
[Windows Phone 8 General] thundr51:
I'm starting to rethink my 8x decision. I want the limelight yellow but it looks like carriers are playing the exclusivity game. So far ATT has it, but only in 8gb. I'm starting to think maybe I should just wait and try to find the Ativ. The Odyssey that I saw looks like garbage so I may have to wait and try to find the S...if it comes stateside. I think I'm becoming a bit spoiled as I only spent .01 on my HD7 so spending almost 200 with tmobile seems a bit crazy.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rionline:
my atrix sometimes stays asleep and i cannot turn it on again withiut removing battery. it freezes while screen is turned off. it never happens while using...

does anyone else have this problem?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThePigeonKeeper:
Happens to me too occasionally, although its rare, random and varies depending on the ROM I'm using. So it's pretty ramdom yeah... I'm currently using MROM and I don't remember it happening yet.

Peace
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rspaulo:
Sometimes, but I learned to call from another phone, then hang-up. The screen turns on again
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ccrows:
Are you running a custom ROM?...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rionline:
yeah tried every rom... my atrix freezes when it is entering deep sleep...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] herschwolf:
I've had this issue in the past as well as random reboots, I believe it had to do with a root zip I flashed for the 4.5.91 update, but I can't be certain. I SBF'd the original 4.5.91 firmware, flashed the CWM recovery, and flashed the latest CM7 along with the Deepblue fix stated HERE. I understand that a lot of people have seen this and says it shouldn't do anything, so I'll let you decide if it works or not.

After doing the above steps, I've solved the issue with the random reboots, but still get the system locks forcing a battery pull, though only very rarely (maybe 1 a month/3 weeks).

-Nate
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joelorona:
Try a new kernel for your room, i've experienced this a lot of times and it was so annoying because i couldn't use my phone as a music player. I tried several kernels until i found one that doesn't go to deep sleep of death.

I would recommend faux123 work, are very stable.

Remember to flash the correct one for your rom, otherwise you'll get stuck in the motorola logo until you flash another compatible kernel.

Good luck
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rionline:
thanks for that advicee... the kernel is not changing anything. random reboots are not really a problem. deep sleep of death comes with every kernel even faux.

what i didn't tried yet...is reverting to stock. ...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] upndwn4par:
It is the sleep of death. Try increasing your minimum cpu speed to one setting above the lowest (456? - I can't remember the exact number).
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rionline:
already done. i think the deep sleep is slower than the min setting....:(
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lexord:
I have never heard that before , sorry

Sent from my atrix 4G running nottachtrix
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] simms22:
Another reason to NOT use root toolkits.. http://www.symantec.com/connect/fr/blogs/malware-uses-google-go-language
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blkhrt:
Ill have to be on the look for that for now on.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] El Daddy:
Unfortunately, we can come up with 1,000 reasons not to use Toolkits, but they will still be used and we'll still be answering "OMGZZ I BriKEd mY FONEz" threads.

Thanks for posting this though. Throw it in my thread if you wish. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] simms22:
so true. please do, at least we can open their eyes a little more.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thephantom:
Feel the same way. But the moment their eyes open, it immediately shuts back. Can't believe people are getting lazy to type simple commands yet are active in typing forum posts
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
I like typing commands:p

Beamed from Maguro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lowandbehold:
Unless you have come up with your own root method and not just following a step by step thread, you really have no room to talk. The simple fact is that it is their phone, their property, and they can do with it as they please. Isn't that why we support Android? If you don't like the threads about people bricking their phone, don't open it. I hardly see how typing "oem bootloader unlock" teaches you the ins and outs of your phone. Drama queens...

(and just for the record, I have never used a toolkit)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chocu1a:
Might as well make a thread about installing .EXE or using Facebook, or opening email attachments, or...the list go on & on. You can get a virus from almost anything...if you are careless & stupid.

Pointless.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
To type these commands, you will have to read up to install android adk and all the drivers, even if you follow the step by step guides blindly, you will learn something in the long run if you keep doing it.

Beamed from Maguro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JiminyCricket64:
Agreed...you can probably get a virus on your TV now, but that won't discourage using websites/streaming on your TV either. The internet is still the "Wild Wild West" :cowboy: -- you have to watch your back or where you venture to. :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AshtonTS:
I think toolkits should onoy be used by people who know 110% of what they are doing, just to save time and effort, NOT by n00bs trying to learn the platform

If you cant manually root a Nexus device, you shouldn't be flashing roms or modding. Period.

Sent from my HTC Droid Incredible
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
Instead of why not to use a root toolkit. The thread title should of been, "don't download things from unreliable sources/users" which should be common sense to users but sadly it isn't for everybody.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] strumcat:
The funny thing is, it takes longer to figure out the average toolkit than it does to figure out adb and fastboot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] coloxim:
I didn't understand.. there is a virus in toolkit?

Why is it on xda?

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus con Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] beekay201:
so true. people are just lazy/dont realize it.

Sent from my i9250
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
So if we don't use root toolkits we should never have problems with malware or viruses lol, if only that was the case, I fail to see how one instance of a untrusted malware infected toolkit is the cause of everyone's worries an concern as its a bit more widespread than just a toolkit but I like how you somehow managed to blame toolkits for all the malware out there, I agree toolkits can cause problems by people not understanding how their phone works but malware is not one of them, people know what av is these days even if they are careless enough to not use a trusted app or get something like this, considering the toolkit everyone uses an trusts is made by a senior xda mod an not this toolkit is very unlikely to happen.
[Motorola Atrix HD] npspears:
Anyone using a Bell Atrix HD noticed an update yet? I bought mine on ebay unlocked and it is currently on 77.55.17.

Also, has anyone using the Bell Atrix been able to show what has been using the battery? I only get the amount of time that has passed since the last charge.

One more, can I still get an update even though I'm not using the Bell Canada service?

Thanks! This thing needs the update because the camera sucks
[Motorola Atrix HD] maddog497:
I'm using a Bell model on Telus. Same build number as well. I haven't figured out how to change the battery stats either.

Hopefully we well get an update soon.
[Motorola Atrix HD] npspears:
Is Bell slower than AT&T when pushing out updates? Everyone harshly criticizes AT&T for their slow updates.
[Motorola Atrix HD] maddog497:
I don't know anything about that, but with the bootloader locked down, we are at Bells mercy, unfortunately.

I'm hoping for something soon as my battery life is extremely inconsistent. Okay one day and terrible the next.
[Motorola Atrix HD] richport29:
Hmm, mine is showing 77.55.18...
[Motorola Atrix HD] maddog497:
Your right, I missed that. 77.55.18...... As well.
[Motorola Atrix HD] gabo_e30:
I just got my AHD from bell and ita showing

Android Version: 4.0.4

system version: 77.55.17.MB886.bellmobility.en.CA

Not showing battery stats either.

Any updates?
[Motorola Atrix HD] davidjames4:
Hopefully we wont need an update...hopefully we can get a better custom rom soon
[Motorola Atrix HD] goodmansarmour:
Very Well Said, David....!:)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joelorona:
Hello guys

Do you know what is the máximum charge for the bh6x and the bh5x

I wonder if for the bh6x is 4200mV, i'm having a several battery drain and i want to make sure that the battery is in good shape

bh5x is the one that came with my phone and i'm not sure of it's maximum capacity too.