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[Galaxy S III General] Badelhas:
You could turn off 4g when not using.

By the way, what does "turn off mobile data" really do in my 9300? Is it like going from 3g to 2g? In my old nokia n78 I used to turn off 3g when not using the browser so I still had Internet, slower, but the battery lasted much longer (from 2 days to 5 days). I had a shortcut so I could quickly turn 3g on when going to the Internet.
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
As I know, turning off the mobile data is not switching between 2g and 3g, the only thing it's doing is turning of the internet and nothing more.
[Galaxy S III General] Badelhas:
But you have to agree it saves a lot of battery, if we turn it off when going to bed with 100 per cent battery we wake up with still 96 per cent of battery. I have a widget with a shortcut for Turning off 3g, I have to try using it during the day and see the difference.
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
Yes, I agree perfectly. mobile data is a hungry when is on. However, when I sleep I always have a wifi near me, so the phone never stays on data :)

Most of time my phone is recharging by night and when is not, I wake up in the morning and the phone have lost only 4-7%.
[Galaxy S III General] cturbos:
where can i find one?when will it be available in europe?

thanks
[Galaxy S III General] MartinEve:
Mobicity has them with delivery time of 5-7 days at the moment: http://www.mobi-city.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s3-i9305-16gb-uk.html

Mine's on order!
[Galaxy S III General] Badelhas:
Will it work in the 800Mhz lte band we have here in Portugal?
[Galaxy S III General] rana_kirti:
when will this be available in USA...?
[Galaxy S III General] mr_stoosh:
I spoke to someone at Mobicity and they're not sure where the S3 LTE is sourced from. If it was European stock I would've gone for it but decided to go via T Mobile UK.
[Galaxy S III General] Badelhas:
Thank you very much for that insightful explanation. Also, thank you for agreeing with what I think : who already has a 9300 phone doesn't really need to buy the new 9305 one, especially because the battery drains faster, 10mbits speed is more than enough and with 2gb traffic limit who really needs lte?!
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
Well have a hero in this thread :D Best post possible :thumbup:

Exactly ! LTE is good option if you use a a laptop with a LTE stick and you are downloading a lot of things (and have unlimited data usage). For browsing 10 mbps is enough (I have adsl 12 mbps with wifi in my house, upgrading now to 30 mbps at the same price). 12 mbps are more than enough for browsing and downloading movies, music etc. Why we would need 100 mbps for whatapp, facebook, browsing on a mobile?
[Galaxy S III General] duowing:
A quick question I've been trying to find the answer to then, I've been thinking about picking this up since with Samsung devices I've had the issues of what seems like weaker 3G/HSPA signal here in the US. Also the issue with where if I'm in a low/no signal area for too long of a time my phone will drop to emergency calls only and not come back without an airplane mode toggle on/off. When I had my S4 variant the i747 I never had this issue with the same SIM card and what seemed to be steadier/more consistent data connection. So by what I saw was posted, the i9305 along with the newer LTE version of the note(N7105) should essentially be using the exact same modem that they've been using for their 3G/HSPA in the existing i9300, but with the addition to a qualcomm modem for the LTE connections? Also on the S4 variants in the US they would have been using an entirely different all in one modem for 3G/HSPA/Voice/LTE connections because it was all integrated into the single Qualcomm chipset?
[Galaxy S III General] rana_kirti:
had a few doubts...

1. is the battery life on the i9305 going to be less than the i9300 in a country where there is no LTE...? Or will it be same ?

2. is the i9305 smart enough to realize that there is no LTE network in that particular country and switch off it's LTE radio on its own ?

3. is there a way to switch off the LTE on the i9305 ? ( for use in countries that don't have LTE )

thanks
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
1. The battery will deplete faster, I personally have not tested it, but people confirmed it and it's obvious as it have a LTE modem inside.

2. No.... LTE is similar to WIFI on a phone. No wifi connection, the wifi will still stay on and scan for network. (as I know

3. Yes, in the same way you turn off the wifi
[Galaxy S III General] rana_kirti:
if the answer to question 3 is Yes...

then won't the i9305 when used with the "LTE turned off" have the equal battery life to an i9300...?
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
I can't answer you to this question, but people who have both phones say no. Even deactivated, the modem is still 'volted' I guess.
[Galaxy S III General] gliatiotis:
The three different Galaxy S 3 variants are three completely different devices radio-wise .

The North American one , using Qualcomm's MSM8960 is certainly tuned in a different way , and probably the antennas used provide different reception levels or the sensitivity is just different . In any case , most radios from Qualcomm load a specific "image" for each network they are designed for , an image that is optimized for the specific network in the developement stage of the phone .

The i9305 uses and MDM radio part , and the X-Gold radio of the international version is missing .

However , everything else seems different from the international version , with different PA's and filters so probably also has a different reception behavior .

In any case , the GT-i9305 was never designed to be sold in North America and probably lacks any kind of optimization for the networks there .

I suspect that Qualcomm goes far enough as to not provide Samsung with "images" for the MDM that are optimized for US networks .

Since both LTE and HSPA+ are highly dependent on the way they are implemented software wise , I assume that the north american versions of the phone will always behave better even when used in HSPA+ networks for both calls and data

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All available Radios are provided by the same Chipset , made by Qualcomm .

This means that turning the LTE off from the menu will just stop the phone from searching for available networks in the best case scenario , since LTE works on different bands .

Since the radio component is the same for all possible networks the battery saving will be minimal , because the power consumption can not be reduced significantly .

LTE capable networks "inform" devices when LTE is available in order for them to try and create a data connection to the LTE part when data is needed , so if the phone does not get this information from the network , even switching LTE off manually will not make much difference since the device already knows it's not available .

This option is probably present for networks that do provide LTE in general , and is used as a fall back option in areas that there is either no LTE coverage on the same network or the coverage is poor and cannot provide stable connections .
[Galaxy S III General] Ausboy 2011:
I had a play with i9305 in Sydney today and to tell u the truth it wasn't Any faster or smoother at all

Sent from my checkrom jellybean powered sgs 3 :)
[Galaxy S III General] mondrus17:
I think Samsung was mainly having trouble mating their Exynos 4412 chipset to LTE. This has usually been the reason why we see a 2GB LTE with a weaker processor, and a 1GB HSPA+ with the stronger processor. One thing that is hugely disappointing is that the LTE bands don't work in North America. Furthermore, I don't think this will have anywhere near as big a development sector as this isn't the official international device.
[Galaxy S III General] prodigiez:
1. yes .. switch from LTE/WCDMA/GSM to WCDMA/GSM only

2. no , refer to first answer

3. yes , refer to first answer
[Galaxy S III General] rana_kirti:
@ prodigiez,

so if i use the i9305 with "LTE turned Off" in a non LTE country then the battery life of the i9305 will be identical to the i9300....?!?
[Galaxy S III General] prodigiez:
yes ..i did few test on the battery life.. with LTE on from 100% till it shut off = less than 12hours.. and with WCDMA/GSM only from 100% till it shut off = 19hours..but it also depends on your rom , what apps ure running in background and how you use your device ..
[Galaxy S III General] rana_kirti:
what if i'm on stock as it comes from samsung in original mode when i switch it on for the first time. if i switch off LTE will i get identical battery life from the i9305 as compared to the i9300 ?

if i had to use both of them in an identical way with the only difference being LTE tunred off, then will i get identical battery life ?
[Galaxy S III General] qsacage:
Yet another reason for you regular "old" GS3-owners to be upset.

An Updated GS3 called "GS3a" or "GS3 Alpha" with 4412 running at 1.6GHz.

http://www.androidauthority.com/ntt-docomo-galaxy-note-2-galaxy-s3-alpha-121710/

Who's upset? ;)
[Galaxy S III General] kms108:
they may upper the cpu frequencies, but at a extra 200hz, it won't make much of a difference.
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
...thing which we can do it easily at our home, but decreasing (a little) the battery performarce

Just needed to complete you ;)
[Galaxy S III General] duowing:
Did they actually give it yet another processor, I had started a thread and asked, but I don't think most people realized or no one actually knew. I'm still wondering if the processor in the i9305 is the Rev 2.0 4412. Seeing as they upped it to 2gb of Ram, and announced the Note II along with it pretty much I wouldn't be surprised if they just switched over to producing the Rev 2.0 processor and threw it into the i9305 just at a lower clock speed. I don't know how you find out though.
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
As I know, i9300, i9305 and Note 2 have the same processor.
[Galaxy S III General] bungadudu:
An interesting post caught my eye on Samsung Mobile UK facebooks page - http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUK/posts/475520072488914

Apparently EE UK will be running an introductory offer sometime at the end of October to allow trading the I9300 for the new I9350 (plus a difference).

Does anybody else knows something about this / can get in touch with them to confirm?
[Galaxy S III General] duowing:
Well they do use the same processor, but the Note II at least according to AndreiLux and I think some others uses a new revision of the 4412 which has a higher base clock speed and allows it to run much more stable at the 1.6ghz lock and I guess can be run fairly stable at 1.8ghz oc. So I feel like Samsung would probably put the new revision from the Note II in the i9305 rather than just keep producing 2 separate revisions of the same chip. Just tell the system to run the i9305 at 1.4ghz, and the N7100 to run it at 1.6ghz. This is just my guess though. The fact that Japan is getting the 1.6ghz chip tells me it's got the slightly newer Rev 2.0 chip that the Note II has. Like I said I just don't see why Samsung would produce 2 chips instead of one and just adjust them through software. Much like how the Galaxy Nexus processor was designed to run at 1.5ghz, but they underclocked it to 1.2ghz
[Galaxy S III General] Badelhas:
I agree. I would very much like that someone or some site (anandtech like) would do proper benchmarks to compare the 9300 to the 9305
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
Not sure about Rev. 2 on Note 2 mate. That wasn't confirmed and not sure if can be easily checked. We still have no manual for the exynos processor. I don't think they revised it (or at least changed something) on Note 2, neither on 9305.

Pretty sure we will soon have benchmark. However, the benchmark are not so concludent and not sure if we will see performance differences (other than few points because of the ram)
[Galaxy S III General] gliatiotis:
There probably is some difference somewehere , perhaps in the microcode embedded to the device in the manufacturing process .

When Samsung announced the Galaxy S II , it was set to run at 1 GHz and later before the device came to the market , changed it to 1.2 Ghz .

I still have a prototype unit , running at 1.0 GHz that despite the numerous updates it got , still runs at the same 1 GHz . Even by using different kernels for overclocking always resulted in speeds exactly 0.2 GHz lower at the standard setting .

After examining a kernel log some time ago , I saw that the software could recognize the different chip however I can not remember how exactly .

Like in the PC industry , there is the possibility to manufacture chips that are identical in most parts and differentiate them in clock speed without much fuss and certainly without making them on different production lines .
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
I'm wondering...can't we compare the i9305 and i9300 processor by its numbers ?

We have here a photo with the baseband LTE chip: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...s-galaxy-siii-with-quad-core-plus-4g-lte.aspx

We need 2 pics of the cpu on the both device. If any number is changed, we can talk about 2 different revision (i think)

P.S How you got the prototype ? Are you reviewer ? Did they gave you as gift ?
[Galaxy S III General] raff-nix00:
Samsung GT-i9305 Galaxy S III LTE EU in the US

Can I use LTE of the Samsung GT-i9305 Galaxy S III LTE EU in the US on AT&T or Verizon?

Or is does GT-i9305 has the wrong LTE radio and is incompatibe with AT&T or Verizon?
[Galaxy S III General] gliatiotis:
Comparing numbers printet on the cjip will not be of much use , since at least one code will be different , stating the 2GB RAM since it is embedded on the same chip .

Production date is probably printed too , and the hard part is identifying each number to see what exactly each one means .

Reviewer no , i just happen to have good relations with the right people , and try to help from time to time when i can :)

The GT-9305 works on 800 / 1800 and 2600 MHz LTE bands .

The GT-i747 which is the GSM / UMTS North American version works only on the 700 and 2100 MHz LTE bands , and tge GT-535 works only on the 700 MHz one , however this is a CDMA device , and the GT-9305 completely lacks the CDMA support so even if it could work on this frequency it would be usefull only as a modem not being able to make any calls .

The GT-9305 does support the 850 and 2100 MHz UMTS bands and has a 42 Mbps HSPA modem so in AT&T at least , it should prove to be a capable modem in places with HSPA coverage .
[Galaxy S III General] AndreiLux:
It can be easily checked as it is in the source code. The Note 2 chip has a 10% memory boost, 200MHz speed bump, 21% GPU boost bump to 533MHz. The chip also seems much higher binned than what we have on other devices as users are reporting much lower undervolts (Defaults voltages are also lower), and we're running 1.9GHz stable-ish. Other than that is also has some power management changes implemented. It is a proper revision of the chip.

RAM size doesn't affect benchmarks.

That's a picture of the Korean baseband that will appear nowhere else in the world. All LTE Note 2's and S3's will be using a dedicated Qualcomm baseband MDM chip.

Yes, the LTE phones with LTE off will have better battery life than the standard version, the Qualcomm chip is more advanced and power efficient than what we have right now, the Intel baseband.
[Galaxy S III General] MartinEve:
Mmmm, mine's on its way and due to be delivered today!
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
So, there is a diferrent processor's revision than inside of S3. There can be lot of things changed?

Related to the battery life, with the LTE off, I don't think there is better battery life than in the intl. version. Maybe same, but no better.
[Galaxy S III General] Badelhas:
I agree, but only benchmarks will tell.

Did anyone find any benchmarks, comparisons or even review of the 9305 yet?
[Galaxy S III General] zulu99:
Finally Gt-i9305 Titanium Gray from Hong Kong arrived in italy

5 minutes later i installed Sweden 2012 September I9305XXALI9 I9305TLAALI6

after other 3 minutes i have my new phone rooted and with CWM recovery

first quadrant 5393

work very well in italy
[Galaxy S III General] qsacage:
You rooted it the same way as 9300?
[Galaxy S III General] zulu99:
with this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1914394
[Galaxy S III General] got-petrol:
If you said that android don't need 2 gig why has the new nexus phone got 2 gig stupid Samsung shafted us
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Thanks to perseus we can now overclock. This picture shows overclock of 1704mhz. I am going to start enhancing and overclocking the gpu in the next coming days as I get used to it which probably will result in higher benchmark. But let me say this just feels so so fluid it's amazing
[Galaxy S III General] vampyren:
I have the 9305 EUROPEAN model and just love it. I actually then off the LTE which I can't use anyway. Reason I got this was the added memory and color.

Usually I use 1-1.3 gig of ram so outs good to see I have now capacity in case.

Battery wise its pretty decent.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
The battery so far is exactly like the i9300 I don't notice any difference
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
Found some benchmarks here: http://www.gsminsider.com/2012/09/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-lte-i9305.html

Maybe true, maybe not. They didn't confirmed the specs yet ;)
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
The antutu score is ridiculous lol not correct forsure I don't think this device is supported properly

I reverted mine back to stock no overclock. And this is my antutu score
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
I just found a bug in antutu when I overclocked my cpu it gave a much much lower score then stock . I think antutu doesn't work right with I9305 I'm going to msg the dev
[Galaxy S III General] bleepsake:
It's my first ever Android Phone. I am really happy with it. I've been playing around with mine for a about a week. I even posted up a YouTube video on it ha! YouTube channel is bleeepsake. Search it.

I have a question.

Can I root this the same as the "old" SGS3 using the same methods?
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
Not bug, you an see in your screenshot: unauthenticated, please contact us...

The phone isn't added yet or something like that
[Galaxy S III General] Payam93:
To those of you who got the i9305, where did you buy it?
[Galaxy S III General] kms108:
samsung
[Galaxy S III General] vampyren:
I bought mine in Sweden at telia store.
[Galaxy S III General] cturbos:
which one?:confused:
[Galaxy S III General] kms108:
official store.
[Galaxy S III General] juDGEY2k10:
Got mine from orange uk £450 got to say its so much faster than my 9300 madness so smooth
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
It's faster because of JB, nothing more :) the extra ram is not for speed.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
In theory yes its Not for raw speed... but I have to admit I have less stutters and it's more fluid. I also had i9300 with polish jb

But the I9305 feels better

Now this is what u call butter!
[Galaxy S III General] Ausboy 2011:
that's because i9305 has official Jb lib for i9300 is test fw Ive tried the i9305 in Australia and there is no difference I can see but well wait till we get official jb than we can compare ;)

Sent from my checkrom jellybean powered sgs 3 :)
[Galaxy S III General] kevindd992002:
That's more of a placebo effect, really.
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
Yup, I can bet that if I put in his hands a I9300 with JB and a I9305 with JB and I will lie him that the I9300 is the one with 2 gigs he will say that it's feeling better than the other :D This reminds me of that video with people testing an iphone 4 thinking that's the iphone 5 and saying that it's feels much better and is faster that the iphone 4 :D It's just the feeling...
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
No it's not polish jb was rubbish freezes stutters. I even reverted back to ics and was much better. I have them side by side now but latest ics and I have the jb. It is more fluid and faster when goin in and out from one app to another then another then another real quick I manage to trip the i9300. But the I9305 seems to handle anything heavy task and not trip. I don't know if that's a jb thing. Doubt it.

And offocourse there is no difference if you just pick up the phone and do the normal standard thing with it. But live with the phone and you will start to pick up things that are different

But don't get me wrong the i9300 is still an awesome phone. They are all still S3 which to me means they are all best in the market
[Galaxy S III General] Badelhas:
Show us doing a video with side by side comparison between the two.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
here is a video i found look at it carefully and watch the whole thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr4A3mm8AgA Shows it Versus the Korean which is exactly the same hardware as the I9305 Only difference is its Fatter because it has a DMB antenna that slides out of it.

The I9300 I dont use it now I gave it to my mother to use I don't have it on me right this moment and to be honest I aint really bothered to make a video and upload it, you can either take my word for it or don't worry I don't have to prove anything and it doesn't always happen I guess it happens more when in heavy load and the programs are not held in the cache memory. Like I said you need to live with both devices to really see the difference.
[Galaxy S III General] sg8:
TD-LTE

Hi!

Do anybody knows if GT-I9305 support both TD-LTE and FD-LTE?

Thanks!
[Galaxy S III General] kms108:
they are not the same, as you have mention the korean version has the dmb, and the phone is thicker, that mean it's not the same hardware.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
LOOL I am sure MOST people knoww what I meant..... If not >>> I meant the main inside performance parts CPU, GPU & RAM which is the the main thing I am talking about. Plus everything EXCEPT for the thicker housing and DMB antenna is the same
[Galaxy S III General] kms108:
those are the same, but as the pcb is slightly redesigned, has a extra chipset for the dmb, this may alter the performance when compared to the international version.

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the i9305 does not support that, but the i9308 from china supports td-wcdma, but it's not LTE.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Yeh if you want to be technical yes , well I guess in theory because of the extra Chipset for the DMB it actually should lower the performance because of the extra voltage needed for it. I would not say the DMB antenna would make it perform better.. I really dont know why you would even bother mentioning anything to do with performance and DMB.... I was only talking about the difference in looks
[Galaxy S III General] kms108:
I agree, performance may be little worst, the korean version also has limitations on features, and LTE is locked on the korean version.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Wow well there you go I learnt something else today :) Yeh with the my device (I9305), It has an Auto option, so when ever you are in a 3G area it automatically switches to 3G and when your in 4G it switches by itself. But it also has the option of locking it to 3G OR 4G which is good.
[Galaxy S III General] kms108:
in korea the e210 works with all frequencies, out of korea you can set to auto which allows upto 3.75G (E210K version), it will not goto 4G, if set to 4G, you get nothing other than 4G for data only.
[Galaxy S III General] Badelhas:
What is that?
[Galaxy S III General] MartinEve:
I bought mine from Mobicity UK!