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[Atrix 4G General] ar31791:
One thing I highly disagree with, regardless of quality, is the high percentage of components not manufactured in the USA. Apple products are nearly entirely manufactured in China, at $400-500 per MONTH wages. Also, none of these components are manufactured by Apple themselves. Makes you wonder why they need all that profit.
[Atrix 4G General] esloudan:
Idk why people r saying bad things with the gs3. I have one as a work phone. It has to stay stock which sux. But even stock it incredibly sweet. Not a problem with it. Hands down its the best phone I ever used. Making me wanna use.my upgrade to get one. I have used a demo iPhone at the shop. It's kinda slow as.compared to the gs3. Not sure if its cause its a demo cause same place had an EVO 3d demo that ran like trash and doesn't even remotely act like mine does.
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
I think significantly closer to the stated 71% to 73% even with R&D costs added. I'd say probably around 60% to 62%. You'll find most of the top money making companies globally target that range as a minimum. Definitely not 0% like that other poster said.

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On topic of the iPhone 5 itself, I have a good friend in engineering at Apple. He tested the 5 a couple of months ago. Said he was not happy with the antenna performance, but overall its a much better phone than the 4S. And no he doesn't give me insider info. He just told me yesterday. We are both sensible enough to know its not worth losing a good job over.
[Atrix 4G General] Swiftks:
I was going to close this thread for obvious reasons.... but on second thought, I think I'll keep it open (for a little longer anyway), just to keep all the Apple/iphone talk in one place.

Keep this thread clean and somewhat civil. If this starts turning into a flame fest with nothing but trolls, send me a report, and it will be closed!!!
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
I think you will find a very large, and majority percentage of US tech products are manufactured in low cost countries such as China. It's the reality of the economy in the West now. Manufacturing costs are much more attractive elsewhere, so Apple is by no means alone in this.

You're comment about $400-$500/month wages in China has no meaning. The cost of living there is far below what it is in the USA, or any European countries, and subsequently the wages reflect this.

Of course Apple does not manufacture the components themselves. The same can be said for every large product developer. The company I work for is one of the largest R&D companies in the tech/life sciences sectors worldwide. We make huge profits by negotiating manufacturing contracts in low cost countries, and placing the emphasis on getting new products to market as fast as possible. Proprietary manufacturing is still done in-house, but even that is done in places like Malaysia to keep low overheads.

The tech sector is all about Time To Market. Nothing else. Beat your competition to release with new technology so you can capitalize on this with the consumers.
[Atrix 4G General] AbleAmazing:
Agreed. Apple makes phenomenal hardware and their supporting content ecosystem is second-to-none. Well, maybe Amazon. But, anyways, I think a lot of people hate Apple simply because they think they're supporting the Android platform in the best way by doing so. It's an elementary way of judging the industry. I love Android and the utilitarian freedom it provides. However, I'd be lying if I said that Apple doesn't provide one of the most intuitive, well-integrated, and simply powerful mobile platforms that we've ever seen. The power of their brand is staggering - and it can mask some of their weaknesses. But, that doesn't change the fact that there is outstanding merit to the establishment of their brand. There's a reason why it's as powerful of it is: the near-perfect execution of their designs.

I was pleasantly surprised by how much has changed within the iPhone 5. What worries me, however, is if Apple can continue to innovate at such a rapid pace now that Steve Jobs is gone. Essentially, he was a huge part of their brand superiority. And, while I was impressed with the hardware presented this year, his absence was noticeable during the keynote as well as during the months leading up to the unveiling. Does anyone remember so much of the design leaking in the past? Steve was anal about security. This year, it seemed as if there were no surprises. Just an example of why I'm worried about their future.

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Disagree with this. I think Apple stuck with the 30-pin connector for as long as they could just to maintain third-party continuity throughout several generations iOS devices. Now, it's abundantly clear that the connector is in need of an upgrade. And, they stated during the press conference that they will not be changing the connector again for quite some time. If I were to buy an iPhone 5, I wouldn't fret about paying for the adapter.
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
I think we are already seeing a massive slow down from Apple. The iPhone 5 is not the big upgrade the iPhone 4/4S was. A lot of the innovation is already in the iPhone, and it's harder to keep coming up with more "new" concepts to implement in later models. I think they will start to focus more on trying to release more technologically advanced hardware than the competition in future, and also more innovative ways to integrate products. One of the ideas I heard from a friend a couple or three years back was that Apple was working on a laptop with an iPhone sized slot in it much like a lapdock. You would slide your iPhone fully into the laptop much like you would a SDCard in a card reader, and you now have a fully functional laptop, but your phone is actually concealed inside. Don't know what happened to this concept, but I heard about it back in about 2007/2008. Seems they are coming up with something along those lines for the iPhone 5, but not the slot type interface.

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I would tend to agree with this statement.
[Atrix 4G General] Maringer:
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point.

If you don't think that Apple will use this new 'Lightning' connector as another marketing ploy, you're obviously a lot more trusting that me. I predict a licensing windfall for Apple as hardware manufacturers scramble to produce devices with docks for the new connector.

Regardless of that, my point was more the fact that Apple are charging $29 for an adapter to use with docks using the old connector. No doubt, there will be cheapo chinese knock-off adapters available within a couple of months but until then, if you want to use your blingy new iPhone 5 with your legacy devices, you're going to have to buy at least one of these enormously expensive adapters. Manufacturing cost to Apple? Pennies. Similarly the $19 USB cable they are selling.

If Apple include one adapter in the box with the iPhone 5 then it's not so bad but I'm thinking it's more likely that the Apple folks are thinking of it as an automatic upsell opportunity.

You can't blame Apple for wanting to make (even more) money, but sometimes, they really take the pish... :laugh:
[Atrix 4G General] nicks90:
Already been done

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/fuj...-laptop-tablet-camera-phone-concept-50006717/
[Atrix 4G General] terry98:
I come from using an iPhone 3G, 3GS and 4... and change it for an HTC Droid Inc 2, now have a Atrix 4G and i must say that i dont miss apple at all... i like customizing and changing things my way, so apple its not really my zone...
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Did you even read what I posted? This was back in 2007/2008 and you posted a link from 2012 for something due for launch in 2013! I guess not since there is a 4 or 5 year difference in timeline between the two. Next time please read a post in it's entirety before you lamely try to show how smart you really are not!!!

<edit> I might add, thanks for trying to derail a post which has a good point for discussion with a weak attempt at providing nothing constructive at all other than a FAILed argument! I await your appearance on TruTV!
[Atrix 4G General] yeahmann:
So you'd rather those Chinese workers get nothing? Apple needs profit to innovate.
[Atrix 4G General] ravilov:
Too bad Apple doesn't actually innovate.
[Atrix 4G General] DroidRunner:
Funny Jimmy Kimmel skit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=youtu.be
[Atrix 4G General] BravoMotorola:
Yeah I saw that, but are those people acting or is it real? Because to me it really looks like they're acting.
[Atrix 4G General] DroidRunner:
There's LOTS of stupid people out there. I'm sure there was a lot of people who caught on right away that weren't shown. The others were probably just trying to get something for free.

Sent from my Atrix 4.1.1
[Atrix 4G General] pyfviperx:
First off HTC and Samsung make very study phones nowadays. Apple product feel sturdy (feel is the important word there) but drop it once... then you will regret your plastic battery cover and gorilla glass.
[Atrix 4G General] nicks90:
WoW, that's a bit harsh. What I was trying to allude to - whilst quickly surfing on here at work so excuse the brief text - was that fujitsu are bringing it to market and therefore have the appropriate patents. Apple wold have done it if they could hhave made it work without major patent issues.

Ps. You need to work on your people skills
[Atrix 4G General] Cab121:
Odd was just debating this today with some smart folk who work on phones. The general consensus we came to was there is no direct comparison since the two products are essentially in separate classes .

If you ignore hardwear for a moment. Apple iOS is locked down and controlled by its developer. Thus a cookie cutter product that is as predictable on paper as it is in reality. Problem is its hard to push a boundary that you made in our own code.

Android being open and ever changing develops bugs and quirks the original code did not account for or other (pick your reason) .However with a limitless supply of tinkering customers Android is also just as limitless in potential.

Now back to hard wear. Any EE will tell you that you can do amazing things if you built specified hard wear for a very specific soft wear. This is the iOS approach. At least at first. Much more dev time and a very locked not open environment to keep your pesky customers from fiddling or breaking your product.

Android however gets a new lease on life with every new phone. Even the slightest change in hatfwear has a huge impact in soft wear as LG found out the hard way. Throw god like hard wear in a box and a underdeveloped os you get an over priced price of crap.

The real question here is not who has the better hardware or even what OS is better. Its what manufacture is going to figure out the Zen spot of marriage between the two.
[Atrix 4G General] Sparx639:
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Atrix 4G General] :
Nice! I love it.

Sent from my MB860 on CM10
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] D3athrow:
Ever so often my phone goes stupid and thinks i'm repeatedly touching the menu 'button' and it does this 5-20 times until i lock the phone and wake it then it's fine for a few hours. Its getting annoying and i don't know what to do to fix it.

It's running stock 4.0.4, no root, no modifications. Only had the phone for about 3 weeks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] calisro:
a ghost? exorcism?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] D3athrow:
Funny but i had my phone blessed by the pope before it was activated.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] calisro:
too much holy water? no but seriously... what rom are you on? sounds hardware related to me....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] D3athrow:
Unsure of the rom it's a Stock Sprint OEM rom i suppose.

http://i.imgur.com/eFSDG.png
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] calisro:
yep. i'd guess hardware problem.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] D3athrow:
was worried it was, thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] calisro:
you could put a custom rom on and see if it persists
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] times_infinity:
It RF interference with the touchscreen controller in low signal areas mostly since the radio has to output more power to sustain the signal.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] celsius0010:
Yea my original Epic had that issue as well it's really annoying. Once I got a replacement phone it stopped. Now my Epic Touch does it, does anyone know of any roms that STOP the issue after having the issue on a phone that is stock. I'm just rooted the hard brick and flash counter have kinda turned me off from flashing. I always try to do alot of research first and I've been pretty busy at work.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] calisro:
I thought you were full of s*** but then I did some research and you weren't b******* . Thanks for that.

http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-1815553.html
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jigwashere:
I was getting the phantom menu pop-ups for a long time, too. Turning off 3G worked, which seemed to confirm that it was low-signal + screen problem. However, since I upgraded to FI03 rooted with Agat's recovery an kernel, I haven't notice the problem. The past 3 or 4 days I've had not issues with phantom menus. Keeping my fingers crossed!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] D3athrow:
Weird this just now started happening, it was perfectly fine for a 2 weeks.
[General Questions and Answers] liquid150:
For some reason when I have an APK in the "for modding" folder, I cannot start up the program. It just crashes right off the bat. If I put it in after the program has started, it doesn't see anything in any folders. What is going on?
[HTC EVO 3D] superduti:
I rebooted my phone and it won't power on. I have tryed a known good battery and still no luck. It is rooted and s-off. I have tryed all the usual tips volume down and power, pulled battery. Anybody else have this problem?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] krobinso2295:
I believed I have bricked my NFC. Is there a way to unbrick it?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
does the phone give a specific error stating secure element? If not, its not bricked. If you get unsupported then head over to themes and apps and grab the modified apk from there
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] TaintedByte:
We need way more info. First off NFC itself probably isn't bricked unless you stabbed the NFC chip to death or somehow got a partial hard brick. If you are referring to the secure element being unresponsive then no, there is no fix.

What errors are you getting? If you are not getting any what makes you think NFC is bricked. You have to give us more to go off of :good:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
I dont bother to explain a brick anymore lol This is what it comes down to, if you get a secure element error then you have a problem, some users have reported that updating their phones with the latest ota has re-enabled it, some say it fixed the error completely, we dont really know at all. I dont recommend trying to unroot to take an ota or using an ruu unless you really know what you are doing. If you are getting the generic this is an unsupported device head over to themes and apps
[Asus Transformer TF700] shermanpat:
I am looking for good permission blocking app, mainly to keep some apps from getting to gps location. But would love to be able to block other stuff too.

Similar to Droidwall would be great.

I read about LBE privacy gaurd but it said it was not available for my devices.

*i was not sure if this was a q&a or a apps forum item*
[Asus Transformer TF700] XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX:
Miui permissions manager or avast! Anti security
[Asus Transformer TF700] pileot:
I would love to know which apps are accessing my GPS all the time. WIll these solutions be able to tell me which apps are accessing those things or do i have to guess and check for each one?
[Asus Transformer TF700] 0x000:
are you talking about avast mobile security? i've been using it for months but where can you block permissions with this app? you have the firewall for blocking internet access but other permissions such as GPS can't be blocked, or can they with some very hidden feature? :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] htcvidi:
Download LBE directly from the developper web site. http://www.lbesec.com/lite/en/

I done it few weeks ago.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shermanpat:
wow LBE is just what i was looking for! thanks you!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] techbeck:
On my own phone, the external storage and internal storage mounted as a drive letter. I then used a program to sync the data on the phone with a folder on a PC...and vise versa. Problem is, the program I use to copy/sync my data relies on a drive letter and the GNEX mounts the phone differently.

Any ideas on what the path may be or how I can get this to work?

thanks
[HTC Rezound] dplane:
Hey folks..so I want to start flashing kernels and yes I know I probably should have gone s-off way sooner but I want to do it now. I've been rooting and romming my phones for a while but this whole s-off procedure continued to scare the crap out of me. But..I don't want to limit my choices when it comes to roms and kernels so I guess I'll do it anyway.

However, I am currently running	RUU 4.03.605.2 with Vigor360 1.1 s modified kernel.

Can I still go s-off even though I am now running the global leak (or is it now impossible) and if so, can someone point me in the right direction?

Thank you kind gents n ladies!
[HTC Rezound] shrike1978:
I've heard of several people being successful on 4.03.605.2 with the 3.14.605.5 ControlBear version.

Only other advice I can offer is don't give up, try different wires if you're having trouble, and pay attention to the troubleshooting page if you decide you want back out and try again later. I've S-OFF'ed three Rezounds. The first took 3 days, the second 2 minutes, and the third 30 minutes.
[HTC Rezound] abrego47:
i did s-off with viper's rom and the .5. i was on global too, don't let it scare you or you will not get it. i couldn't get the timing for the life of me. first two hours was a hassle, then i had to get my other battery(thought i bricked my phone) then i relized that they had a metrnome with the correct timing and it worked the first time. but use a different memory card. all of these things can be found under the s-off instructions.:good:
[HTC Rezound] famouscollin:
its really easy man you can do it. i reccemend using speaker wire as its more pliable than a paperclip.. if you need help i can walk you thru it on gtalk. just pm me for me gtalk. otherwise. goodluck:) and yes the 3.14.605.5 ControlBear version is the correct one just lock your bootloader, run the full ruu agan( 4.03.605.2), flash amonRA, then flash this in recovery (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0ZJtM40GdJ0MEpGeG1ZWi0yNDA/edit) to gain root on stock global, download root checker from the app store to be sure you got root before you begin. then boot phone and check usb debugging, connect your phone to the comp(within the stock rom), start control bear.. make sure to back up EVERYTHING as it could all get wiped. (internal sd, external sd, and your nandroid if you so choose) i reccemend using a spare sd card if you have one.. ive only done my phone but it took me all of 2 trys.. i got weird errors a couple times (other than "error: still sober" got that once) if you do just run control bear again
[HTC Rezound] dplane:
Thanks for the responses and moral support folks!

Collin, I may have to hit you up for that assistance soon, I'd rather be safe then sorry so I might feel better if I have someone to "hold my hand" :D

May not get around to it til Sat afternoon or Sunday though.
[HTC Rezound] neowisdom1031:
I'm working with the same situation as the OP. You posted a link to a second recovery to flash after Amon Ra, I've tried that link and it forces me to request access. Which recovery is it and is there another link or are you able to give me access to that one?
[HTC Rezound] Sax1031:
Hey guys.

I am a complete newb with most this stuff.

I am not sure how I look at RUU I have. I will say that my phone was pretty much stock through the official ICS release.

Currently I have CM9 flashed as my rom.

Is there anyway I can S-OFF my phone?
[HTC Rezound] neowisdom1031:
If you haven't already, I would say start by checking out unlimited.io They have all the basic details about how to achieve S-OFF. Without knowing more specifics about your setup it would be hard someone to give a more specific answer.
[HTC Rezound] Sax1031:
Yea I have went there.

I have the program downloaded. I am on Gray's CM9 rom.

Followed all the instructions. When the program runs it goes like this:

Starting up....

Connecting to device....

Searching device.....

Found device......

Backing up.....

Permission denied.....

Transferring backups....

Secondary backup FAILED!!

Press ENTER to exit.

like I said my phone was stock till the official ICS update released. After that I unlocked the boot loader and just recently flashed my first rom, through Amon Ra.

If I could kindly ask you what info you need, and possibly how to access the info, to help me out. Do I need to flash a stock rom back?

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I hope to god my hboot was stock. As I am running a previous RUU.

Hopefully once I do this, I will be able to S-OFF.
[HTC Rezound] neowisdom1031:
If you're able to flash back to stock that would be the best place to start for S-OFF
[HTC Rezound] Sax1031:
I flashed back to the first ICS RUU.

I think I know why it said permission denied. Because I didn't have actual root access.

At the point of trying the wire trick.

Edit: Achieved S-OFF. Thanks so much guys. Going from 3 days ago of flashing my first rom. To having to relock the device, run the first ICS Ruu, then doing the wire trick. Hell of a learning curve on these things. Thanks everyone for all the help.
[HTC Rezound] neowisdom1031:
Just a quick update. I was able to achieve S-Off while using this specific RUU. It took a few time flashing the RUU and a rooted rom to finally get it but it is possible with this RUU.
[HTC Rezound] docbutts:
Fwiw I also was able to go s-off using this ruu and flashing supersu from a temporary amon ra. Not as tough as it thought.
[HTC Rezound] michaelbsheldon:
.

Did you put the Juopunutbear executable and files into the same folder

that Android fastboot, adb, and other files are located?
[HTC Rezound] shrike1978:
It shouldn't matter. ControlBear has its own versions of everything it needs.
[HTC Rezound] Izeltokatl:
So this is what i've done and its failing with the error: "Secondary backup FAILED!!"

-I reset everything by using the RUU 4.03.605.2.

-I then set the debugging mode, unlocked the bootloader

-Put AmonRa3.15 as my recovery

-Flashed the CWM SuperSU.

-Confirmed root access by using TitaniumBackup.

-Started the ControlBearRelease_vigor_ICS_3.14.605.5 for the ICS leak process.

-Then I get the fun error Secondary backup FAILED!!.

I'm using the latest version of JuopunutBear 0.4. Help?

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So I re-flashed the full RUU and went through all the steps and still same outcome. "Secondary backup Failed!". I read that only version .1 may work if this error occurs?

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[HTC Rezound] famouscollin:
i s-offed with the global ruu and and this version of control bear https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0ZJtM40GdJ0SmVBbm40anJpRTg/edit ia got a few wierd errors but just started it up again and all went well..also make sure you have htc sync uninstalled from your computer
[HTC Rezound] Izeltokatl:
Ya that's the exact same version I have, not really sure what to do? I re-did everything back to RUU again to no avail.
[HTC Rezound] famouscollin:
you can try backing up your sd cards and partition them before you start the control bear process, and your sure you have root access correct? via rootchecker, tatanium backup or somethin gand usb degugging checked? if your still having issues look for apophis' thread named "so you need assistance, WE ARE HERE TO HELP" post in that thread im sure he can help you walk thru it..