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[Off-topic] steddora:
Just remember, it's not who started it, it's who holds the patent! Err wait... Uh..

Well anyways, the iPhone was a pinnacle for its time; however it's become a product of repetition. It's not like the way Microsoft has taken their OS or how Google has changed Android over the years. It's straight forward and simple, but worst of all, repetitive. Some features here and there may be nice; but look at the others in the game. My S2 has not only wowed a few iPhone owners, but a few had actually switched to Android based devices. The simple fact that the place with the ease of use isn't always going to win the game. People not only want change, but they often welcome it. I know all of you Android guys and gals loved some of the features that came with gingerbread. And the ics came and subbed you again. Windows phone lovers loved when NoDo came around, even though it wasn't nearly as capable as Android; it beat the pants off of the older windows mobile platforms. If Apple wants the iPhone to continue to rain as a player in the mobile department, they are going to have to adapt to change. But for those of you who know their history with Mac OS, knows that is harder to expect than most anything else.

Blah... /end rant

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[Off-topic] TexasLTE:
...

I was just wondering in your opinion which is better...

iOS 6 or Android?

...

Seriously ???? U gotta ask ???? :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] shravbits:
JellyBean. Why? Because it is boss and actually supports NFC. Apple STILL did not add NFC to the iPhone 5, but they did copy google and add panorama to the camera app.

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[Off-topic] Super2cool:
Its A6. It says so on the Apple.com page and Apple NEVER LIES!!
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Except in the iPad 3's battery meter. Well known issue where the battery reports 100% when it can be charged further to almost 2 hours more battery life.
[Off-topic] LordManhattan:
That's the model, not the architecture. Rumours says the A6 chip is a Cortex-A15.

Got it? :p
[Off-topic] MissionImprobable:
1) Siri's voice would make me toss my phone out the window if I were on a trip that required a number of turns.

2) 1998 called, Apple, and it wants its UI back. Why, oh why, can't Apple update that antiquated looking design. Boring and then some.

3) Still no functional widgets, still no notification light from what I could see, and now with the "precision fitament" of their new casings odds are replacement pieces will be a buttload. Okay, the last is a hardware issue, but no real notifications and no widgets?

4) No NFC, yet they've been going on and on about how your phone will be able to store all your info. Nothing doing there.

Everything announced today is a year if not more behind the curve. RIM was the only company that I knew of who tried to get by releasing "updates" from yesteryear. As others have said this is no more than iOS5.5
[Off-topic] CuBz90:
I imagine Apple will have another iPhone right around the corner that will surprise us all, there's no other reason why they iPhone 5 is so under parr.
[Off-topic] ptesmoke:
With a slightly improved camera and another annoying voice... And dub it Iphone 5s.
[Off-topic] Super2cool:
I think is out of ideas to be honest...

The best they could add is maybe wireless charging which is already out on some Nokia phones.
[Off-topic] MissionImprobable:
Would love to see people's faces if they buy this subpar toy only to have it one-upped a little while down the road, though Apple releases once a year and that's it.

Brought to you by the letters "M" "I" "U" "I"
[Off-topic] Super2cool:
lol..

It doesn't matter. People will still line up around the block to buy Apple's shiny new toy.

I won't be surprised if Apple sells another record breaking amount of iPhones..
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
I don't care about iPhone 5 or iOS 6, except that I'd like to see someone compete with the best Android has to offer to keep upping the arms race. It's like a basketball team winning every game 100-45. Glad your team wins, but not very exciting.
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
on the other news,

Samsung Philippines officially released Galaxy Note 2 :D,

iphone 5 set to sail on philippines last week of september
[Off-topic] Super2cool:
I would consider a iOS a worthy competitor but I wish Android updates came once a year like Apple.

It creates stability.
[Off-topic] xaccers:
No it creates updates for the sake of updates, look at iOS6.

Do you think the few additional "features" it brings actually warrant a new version number?

Of course they don't, iOS6 is mediocre at best. At worst it suggests that Apple had no idea what to do next and spent too much time changing their minds internally so had to rush out what they could to meet the annual deadline.

If they could take longer then they would have been able to fit in actual new features I'm sure.
[Off-topic] :
I cant agree with this at all, Android would be lucky as hell to receive updates as promptly as Apple products. Timely updates is probably the #1 drawback of Android, most phones are lucky if they see one major version upgrade, much less always receive the new updates.

As for the updates being insignificant, that is just an incorrect statement. iOS5 was a substantial jump from iOS4. Airplay Mirroring, notification center, twitter integration, split keyboard. iOS6 is an extremely substantial update from iOS5. Complete overhaul of maps, complete redesign of iTunes, AppStore etc, fb integration, improved Siri, Siri on iPad, etc.
[Off-topic] xaccers:
None of those are significant.

Remember Siri used to be available for any iphone until Apple bought it and took it out of the app store.

You consider choosing a different map app based on TomTom data rather than something more accurate as a substantial update?

iTunes isn't the OS, nor is the AppStore.

Facebook integration a substantial update? Nah.
[Off-topic] wuby:
iOS6 obviously .... NOT.
[Off-topic] :
Sounds to me like you don't use iOS on a daily basis, because I do and I welcome these features.

Regardless of what Siri use to be, its improved and now available on iPad with iOS6, that's exciting to me regardless of the fact that gNow is superior.

Maps is substantially different now, since neither of of has used it yet, neither of us can speak on its usefulness.

iTunes and the app store are very large parts of iOS, that's like saying Play Store is not Android.

If you've ever used fb on iOS, integration has been a much needed feature since day one.

I'm not a fanboy one way or the other and I know that erks some of you, but I am Android biased. And IMO JB was no more substantial an update from ICS than iOS6 is over iOS5. Any update is welcome to me, I'm not gonna complain about how much or how little was added to either OS.
[Off-topic] xaccers:
I unfortunately do have to use ios on a daily basis through work with an ipad 3.

It sucks.

The play store is not Android! OMG why would you think it was??? For starters look at all the android devices available which don't have access to the play store. It's just one of several repositories of apps for android, and thankfully is much better than the bloody pain in the backside app store.

Sometimes I want to install more than one app, with the PS I'm not dropped back to my desktop, actually scratch that, the app store doesn't drop me to my desktop, it drops me to a NEW fricken desktop and starts the slow laborious task of installing the huge application that quite often is several times larger than the android version. So I then have to slide back to my desktop, open the app store again and then find the next app I want and repeat, then move those apps from the NEW fricken desktop onto the one desktop I want which has plenty of space so why the fudge can't the new apps be installed there rassum frassum crapple.

With the PS I install an app, it does it in the background, I'm still in PS so I can carry on installing the other apps I want and then drop to the desktop when I have finished, to find all the apps I've just installed and manage them how I want. Talking of which, I don't use newstand, I never have, never will so why the fudge can't I remove it from the bloody desktop???? You used to be able to do it, but noooo crapple don't want you doing that!

What version number is ICS? 4.0

What version number is JB? 4.1

If google used iphone numbering we'd be on something like Android 10 by now.
[Off-topic] :
Very valid point.

As for the appstore kicking you to the homescreen, you're right, that is a pain in the ass.

I just couldn't imagine iOS w/o appstore any more than Android w/o playstore is all. Sure there are AOSP builds w/o gapps but I wouldn't run them.

I welcome the update and am kind of surprised you as an iPad user (forced or not) do not see the improvements. You're not even a little interested to get Siri on the iPad and pit it against Google Now?
[Off-topic] steddora:
I'm going to have to try gNow. I have used Siri before and it wasn't too bad. However, coming from an hd7s (windows phone 7.5),Siri just didn't cut it at all. The stock voice system on my hd7s was perfect with my vocals every time. That's one feature i can say that I really do wish this phone had.

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[Off-topic] xaccers:
The thing is, I'm losing google maps for an inferior product that relies on TomTom map data which is notoriously slow to be updated or corrected.

I presume Google maps will still be available via the app store...

The mail client and calendar are inferior to HTC's offerings on my Sensation. OK so some may say the ipad calendar is more artistic but the HTC one is more usable with multiple accounts. The mail client is awful when using more than one account, the HTC one colour codes mail per account so it's much easier to find certain messages. Another thing I've noticed on the ipad is smilies. If someone emails me with a :) it shows as a smilie in the preview on the left but in the actual email it treats it as : )

So I'm sure you can guess I don't use the ipad calendar, especially as it has a habit of messing up events with MS Exchange (I'm forever deleting and re-adding the corporate account of a client's CEO due to his ipad 2 screwing up meetings or ignoring them).

I'm going to stop now otherwise I'll start on how slow it is to browse, and how jerky 9gag and other pages with images are (such as online news sites).

:)
[Off-topic] :
I had a TomTom GPS but stopped using it and started using my Androids for Nav, no question Gmaps is better than TomTom. Truthfully I dont use Nav on iPad, and the new version of gEarth on iOS is very nice - maybe even better than gMaps (minus directions). I think Gmaps will show up in Appstore soon just like YouTube will after they are removed. I welcome a new YT app and fingers crossed it'll be a clone of the Android version cause I really like that one. Hopefully both apps will see significant improvements now that Apple wont have so much say so. I mean, I'm sure Google couldn't change then like they would have liked too when they are so deeply integrated into iOS.

The Mail client on iOS does leave much to be desired, like you said especially with multi accounts. I dont use the Calendar app.

What browser do you use? I really haven't experience too much lag or jerk (even on 9gag), but I use Atomic not Safari. I would use Chrome but no RIL support yet.
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Yeah thankfully I have my sensation for nav, but I've used the ipad for maps due to the larger screen and larger monthly data quota.

I definitely agree that Google will do better with having their own apps for nav and youtube.

The worst thing about work is they're trying to push ipads as business devices and they really aren't.

I use chrome. Will have to give Atomic a go though. I tried dolphin as I prefer that over chrome on my sensation, but it wasn't very stable, and safari is slower than IE ;)
[Off-topic] MissionImprobable:
Even if we pretend that iOS 6 is a major update, which it isn't, it still doesn't measure up to JB in terms of functionality. FB integration is not worthy of praise.
[Off-topic] :
I agree, the iPad really isn't a business device short of simple web browsing and communication.

Let me know what you think of Atomic if you try it, it has a gazillion features so that is something to consider if you don't like a lot of options. A few cool things it does is full screen mode, Read-it-Later or Pocket integration, share link to fb, motion gestures like Dolphin, customizable ad blocking, change font size, identify browser as, transparent scroll bar on the side, dropbox connectivity, color themes, etc. I think it's only 99c so it should be worth the try.

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I think how major the update is is subjective to each user. You're definitely right about not measuring up to JB. I, for one, am happy about the fb integration. Even though it's late as hell, and I mostly hate fb, it's about damn time.
[Off-topic] the playa!:
iOS 6 is retarded.

All android needs to have is an epic camera, good processor AND apple's appstore.

Everything combine will have an epic device... only if Apple and Samsung were friends.
[Off-topic] negrobembon:
Android of course, but i'll take iOS over BBos Any day(but not over WP)
[Off-topic] colbynmeghan:
I rather go back to WinMo6.5 before I go back to iOS.

Android has always won in my heart from the first time I put android on my HTC Tilt.

sent from 1 of 4 Galaxy devices
[Off-topic] septix:
Depends, if you are a hipster or not.
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
android lost :(

i found out iphone 5 has a way more awesome feature that android does'nt
[Off-topic] :
Had to follow up on this. Good news and bad. The good is Google YouTube app is available now in the AppStore. The bad is that it's not iPad/universal yet so you have to 2x. And that
[Off-topic] MRsf27:
Well after that article it already seems as tho the author is making up his mind as well as giving the facts as to why his mind is made up. Android has been superior to iOS for yeeears now. If anything iOS is getting worse ;)
[Off-topic] CuBz90:
iPhone 5 Commercial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-FN0fE1KZ8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Off-topic] Thin_Bezel:
Jelly bean is the king
[Off-topic] colbynmeghan:
So funny but true I know a lot of people that's buying one just BC its new

sent from 1 of 4 Galaxy devices
[Off-topic] jaygajay:
So I think I may have come to the conclusion that it is pointless to argue with somebody that has an iPhone. It is like arguing with a stubborn child that thinks they know best. In my honest opinion people that have Androids or are for Android are people that are more tech savvy and into electronics that likes a high end product based on hardware with a good underlying OS. People for iPhone aren't necessarily the tech savvy people and are easily tricked into buying the next iPhone by hyping up a couple of 'new' enhancements (as in features already implemented in Android phones years earlier) to the iPhone they currently have. These users like a high end product based on Software with good underlying hardware. iPhone users could care less about the hardware in there phone. Once the software keeps working and is always polished up and is simple to use they will continue to buy.
[Off-topic] peanut1596:
Hmm, ask an android forum what's better, iOS or android.... ask the same thing on the iPhone forum. Go ahead. Ask.
[Off-topic] steddora:
I agree completely here. The worst part about it however, the iPhone really isn't anything to take a second look at. I may not be an android, iOS, or WP7 fanboy, but I will admit I'll talk anyone out of buying anything apple if I can. I actually talked my girlfriends mom out of buying the 4s. She wanted easy to use and her other daughter "loves her iphone!". However, I tossed my SGS2 into her moms hands and showed her how easy it is to modify to what she wants. In less than 15 minutes my phone had become a mom's phone. On her way to the store, she wanted my phone. Even though she didn't get exactly my phone; she did manage to pick up an iPhone and a WP7 phone and not like either. She ended up getting an HTC Evo which she has had zero issues with and actually uses her phone more than she did before when she had the LG Lotus flip. She thanks me all the time for talking her out of the 4s. She not only saved $200, she has a phone that fits her... uh.. uber creative personality.

I believe WP7 based phones are similar in the fact that it's not near as customizable as Android like the iPhone line. But it is effectively more "adjustable" than the iPhone. And for her personality, the Evo is the perfect phone. It's sad that so many people have no clue of how much more capable a simple SGS2 is than even the "new" iPhone 5. It's almost stupid; maybe it is. If apple was ever to allow half the abilities that an android based phone can do; I might even try owning my own iPhone. Until the communistic approach of iOS ends though, I'll stick with my love for Android. :)
[Off-topic] jaygajay:
That was wonderful. I was arguing with somebody that was totally hyped to get the iPhone 5 and I asked why and all he could say to me was, look at this game it's so cool, everything is so simple, everything is just there. And I asked him to check my SGS3 out with a custom ParanoidAndroid Rom and I customized the launcher to be gesture based and he was so into it that I told him I would sell him my phone right then and there. Now when I look on somebody with an iPhone, I just think to my self that these are people that I can't talk to with anything relating to technology.
[Off-topic] steddora:
I agree man. Most people who use anything in the iPhone line really just don't know what technology has to offer. Don't get me wrong, like i said, most, a majority, or a large percent. Not every iPhone user is technology challenged. Just the mass percentage of them. And i just laugh every time i hear of the "genius" desk. I have to.. Most if the "geniuses" don't even know the differences inn the hardware of Apple products and the rest of the world.

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[Off-topic] jaygajay:
True, I also laugh when all my friends try to sell me on the iPhone with features that they hardly ever use. "Oh it has Facetime and Siri." I think sometimes they forget to add, "that we hardly ever use." So they are trying to sell me an overpriced phone with old specs and features that I will probably use once in a while. With Android I just say that we have all that in the play store and i can also customize almost every aspect of my phone. I would prefer to have freedom and control over my device with third party apps that can do anything the iPhone does than to have a overly bloated device that a company thinks what is best for me to have on there.
[Off-topic] primetechv2:
1. So he other day I picked up an iPhone and tried to find Siri on it. I'm pretty darned sure it was a 4S, but I couldn't do it. I even went to the cute little search spotlight screen and typed "Siri" and it offered me absolutely nothing. Unfortunately the iPhone really does need a manual, and that manual for most iPhone users is a quick Google search. (Search "how do I use" and the top four results relate to the Phone that Doesn't Need a Manual.)

2. To those who say it's simpler to look at a screen that's pre-filled with icons instead one where that screen is a touch away, well, I question their logical sanity.

3. People are getting sick of the iPhone's (And Apple's) tendency to use artificial brushed steel, glass, felt, and wood textures to represent things that are starting to lack these things in real life. Quite frankly I agree -- even if the silly patterns look pretty now, I'm sure they'll be an interface joke five years in the future, like Microsoft Bob is now.

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670760/will-apples-tacky-software-design-philosophy-cause-a-revolt
[Off-topic] steddora:
Hold the... Home? Button for a second and it activates Siri... Just remember, Siri is funny sometimes, but just not that useful to be a major selling point.

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[Off-topic] Super2cool:
Siri is fairly useless...

It is not even that accurate.
[Off-topic] primetechv2:
Indeed I found Siri, I just found it ironic the only way to discover it was repeatedly mashing the home button like I was at a crosswalk. Not that only having one dedicated button is a bad thing (okay, to me it is).

And as to whether it's a selling point, ask Apple I suppose. Wasn't that what the S stood for in 4S? Siri? Software? Silly?
[Off-topic] MRsf27:
you crazy brah? :eek: ice cream sandwich and jellybean came out less a year apart. Tell me how that isn't timely ;) I was seeing on BBC news about their review of iOS5 and iOS6, and they said "it's basically the same, it's not a big change from their older OS" but of course, people still buy into it because they believe "an apple a day, keeps the technician away"... jeez, people are so retarded. i could build an entire computer for what people buy their one and only shiny new iPhone for.:confused:what a crazy world we live in
[Off-topic] jaygajay:
[Thought] So, tonight I go and use my friends phone which is a Stock Gingerbread ROM on it and I just realized how far Android OS has come. However I've come to think that alot of people don't realize that the reason why Android isn't in more people's hand is because of fragmentation.

He was planning on getting an iPhone 5 coming from the aforementioned GB Rom. However after showing him my SGS3, he was liking the newer OS version. We went to the store and used Google Wallet to pay for a purchase, Instantly he and the store clerk was sold on this phone.

Users of Android versions prior to 4.0.x aren't getting the full and up to date versions of the Android OS. And there are roughly 78% (may now be less) of Android users that may think the iPhone is a more superior product because of the older Android version they have. Which in reality it isn't. And you kind of wonder why many of these phones arent necessarily updated on time, especially since the US carriers have to approve their updates. Now I have to wonder if maybe certain carriers that start with a V (maybe others) are getting paid to hold up these updates to such phones like the Galaxy Nexus which is a stock Android phone.

If we could get Android 4.+ into more people's hand then they would see how much better Android is compared to it's competition.

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[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
Geezus, every post in here is like a goddamn novel. I'll leave now.

Sent from your mom.
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
V, V, V...

Vodafone?

Sent from my HTC Rezound
[Off-topic] jaygajay:
US carriers.

Sent from my device
[Off-topic] yourguitarist:
My phone is on gingerbread, still find it better than ios. I probably won't get any ice cream for a long time cause LG is terrible but gingerbread has been okay.
[Off-topic] Super2cool:
Yeah.. I have gingerbread too but I have really been wanting to try out Google Now.

I really hope Google releases it for us! or xda
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Hmmmmm

Vonage?

Yeah, since Verizon OBVIOUSLY isn't a US carrier.

Sent from my HTC Rezound
[Off-topic] strip419:
Apple copied siri from Samsung , on my galaxy s2 (which came b4 the 4s) when u tab the home key twice it opens vlingo.... An they say they were first. May be Samsung should also hype these small things before apple takes over
[Off-topic] MRsf27:
in order, iphone 3, 3gs, 4, 4s, and finally the most innovative original one that apple has yet to release, the Iphone 5
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Siri was available long before the SGS2, and long before the iPhone4.

If memory serves, it used to be available for the iPhone3 from the App store.

Unable to just steal it due to the back end technology, Apple were forced to buy the company, then removed it from the App store to then release it as a "feature" of the 4S.