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[Off-topic] litetaker:
Ok. One of the points I meant by this WHOLE thread was NOT about how you can improve iOS or iPhone. Frankly there are way too many people who already postulated that on the whole of XDA and the interwebs.

I want to encourage people replying to this thread to put on their thinking caps, and think of what sort of futuristic product they can think of that may very well be a potential innovation from Apple. Not a phone, nor an iPad, nothing about iOS. Break free from that shackle. Steve always said that there is no way you can make a great product buy surveying the market and asking them what they want as consumers never know what they want until they see it and so you should think what will be the next revolution....

Soooooooooo...

The idea of this thread is this: (which got lost due to my frankly poor OP)

What would you say the next innovation is.

(P.S: I mention Apple in this thread a lot because traditionally they really where the pioneers of most major trends in electronics - Mac for GUI, then iPods then the in thing - smartphones with great GUI).

Soooooo, commence the scuffle! :D

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Original OP (which was badly written and distracted from my main idea) can be found here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=31513203&postcount=14
[Off-topic] veeman:
Actually Apple is doing very well for itself right now. It might backfire in the future but for now they are raking in money.
[Off-topic] orangekid:
lol @ some random dude on xda saying he could run the most profitable company in the history of this planet better than they could. Man if they'd only found you sooner...
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
apple is the most valuable stock in NSE,

so its feeding off the rich isheeps
[Off-topic] litetaker:
The point is not that Apple is making losses now. The point was not really about profits. The point was making innovative products that they used to do on a regular basis (iPods, then the iPod nano when they first came) and then the iPhone/iTouch. But now they are just not innovating - either by making cool new products Or improving the existent one.

So, what would u do to give us the "wow" factor from Apple. The resounding wow that everyone said when the iPhone debuted. What would that be?
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
wow = overpriced gadget + mass media advertising + huge battalion of rich dumbas*es
[Off-topic] litetaker:
Steve Jobs when he first started off, was really into making products that "wow" people. He was also very business minded but still he did heavy investment and caused smaller profits because he spent a lot of time, effort and money on innovation. Same thing at the company "Next". I know I can't make Apple make MORE money than it does now, on its current line up. I am not a marketing or business guru...

I think you fail to see the point I make, oh good sir. What I am saying is Apple lost all innovation and is now purely gaining success on past success and marketing things to people.

And I claim I can and probably you can come up with "better" innovations than Apple does.

And so my question remains: What will you do at Apple as a CEO/Chief Designer that makes us WOW.

Because, if you feel "wow-ed" by Apple's current products, you probably have set a very (keyword: "very") low bar.
[Off-topic] orangekid:
That doesn't make any sense. You are saying that if you ran this specific corporation you would not be in it for profit but you would basically just have crazy R&D going to "innovate"

You don't need a corporation or a logo or to run someone else's company for that, you just need money.

Your title is misleading, this is basically just "If you had 20 billion dollars in capital, what would you spend it on as far as R&D goes without trying to attain the most profit but just to be 'innovative'?"

In which case I would say Google Glass is basically what I'd be into, like set up a full AR network as picture in the awesome as hell sci fi book 'Daemon" by Daniel Suarez, and integrate that into your cell phone/communications and stuff.

And as to your claim that you can "run Apple better than Apple does" what you're actually saying is "In my opinion if I had all that capital made from not being original except maybe the very first iteration of the iPhone, I would spend it all not on what has made profit for me but on in what my opinion would be more "innovative" than what I consider the latest rendering of the iPhone to be"

It's the most arbitrary and subjective statement ever. I could just as easily say "If I ran McDonald's I would introduce hormone free big beef patties and sugar free buns because that is much better for you and not just about cheap profit like the current management, like the old days when it was about making burgers, not money"

i mean you could say that about any aspect of any company. Bottom line is you would probably run that company into the ground within 2 years.
[Off-topic] litetaker:
You are making hasty conclusions and clubbing different sentences of mine out of context! Oh my gawd! How is it difficult for people to understand the following simple point I am making!?

Let me break it down for you, Internet style:

1) Do you think Apple is making the best and most innovative product every year?

A) NO.

2) Why?

A) Clearly there isn't one feature on iPhone 5 that isn't already there elsewhere. They just caught up with others. No innovation, and I am a sad panda.

3) Do you think spending some money in a multibillion dollar company for innovation is a good idea?

A) Yes. It will help differentiate their product and add value to it so people find it worth buying.

4) Do you think that will reduce profits?

A) In the long term definitely not. In the short term, may be but given the size of the company it is clearly worth investing for R&D.

5) Did other companies make interesting innovations THAT APPLE hasn't made?

A) Hell yes.

And (5) is my point people! Stop blindly trying to defend a corporation you like and just hear me out once. All I am saying is, and I bet you will agree, is that Apple didn't improve upon their OS/product in certain aspects thereby leading to not the best of the breed. I agree it is subjective, but still it is probably agreeable to a lot. The whole UI is still the same as before. They use a single button to accomplish 10 different things. Press the button one way and you get the homescreen, another way and you get access to task manager, another way and voice control. that is not particularly a fun thing to do. And then the homescreen is near useless for productivity.

For the first few generations of iOS, they were fine. But as the OS refines, it should try to change some of the ailing aspects of it. But they aren't doing that. And I bet even people like you and me can come up with those things. Most improvements to iOS that were "cool" came from the Jailbreak community (the stuff on the lockscreen giving info about various things - they hired a Jailbreaker to code it into iOS)

So, give me a break when you defend a company. When an ordinary developer on XDA or elsewhere can themselves come up with an idea that seems obvious (I mean, right from day one I was frustrated that my iPod touch did nothing on the homescreen other than just show me a wallpaper) I think I have justified what I mean by even I can do better than Apple.

It is a figure of speech, damnit! Why don't you see that and take it at face value and instead think of me as arrogant. I am just a frustrated ex-iOS user who understands both sides and kinda hates seeing Apple dig its own grave, slowly.... Marketing can take you only so far when people realize that they aren't getting what they want from their phone... and of course, there are iSheep as well... anyway point made. See y'all! :)

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Side note: So as a consumer, you rather have a company MAKE the MOST profit out of you rather than they innovate? Are you telling me you are a billionaire and you wish for these greedy corporations to take more of your hard-earned money and rip you off more easily? Doesn't sound look good advice to me.
[Off-topic] orangekid:
My point is that from a business standpoint with that type of attitude you would run the company into the ground.

From an "innovative" standpoint those are your opinions on iOS, which mirror everyone who doesn't like iOS's opinions. We've heard it a million times from every user on these forums.

You disagree with how Apple is run, that's fine. But this is all arbitrary and subjective. There plenty of "intelligent" people who could provide a good argument for iOS 6 being better than JellyBean, starting with the malware ratio for one.

Every one of your questions/answers is arbitrary. That's why we have choices. Don't like iOS? buy Android. Don't like either? Buy WP8. Don't like one of those 3? Tough ****.

Let's go thru your checklist as an Apple fan would (you can see from my signature which phone I currently love to rock).

1) Yes, they always have the fastest CPU/GPU, the best battery life, the best DPI (except maybe a couple crazy ass Japanese phones), arguably the best camera only to be compared with PureView, and the best form factor.

2) Let's talk features. There was already no competitor for Siri on the 4S. S Voice utterly sucks and doesn't recognize what I say half the time. Google Now is kinda cool but doesn't talk back the same way as Siri does, now with iOS 6 update it takes it to a new level. The form factor is the best. Not cheap Samsung plastic, Aluminum + Glass on the back, squared form factor with a new elongated 4" screen that you can STILL easily hold and type with one hand. The A6 processor out benches even the new exynos quad core.

3) They have an R&D department...

4) If you spend too much on R&D and not enough on other things, then yes, you have to have the perfect balance like Apple.

5) Yes, just like Apple has made innovations that others haven't made. Hence choices...

You see, it can be argued either way.

Your opinion is that Apple isn't "innovative" same as most of the people on XDA, you're not bringing anything new to light. You're just saying you don't think Apple is "innovative"

That's fine, you can have your opinion, but that's all it is, opinion.

side note;

all of your side note is conjecture. You think Bill Gates and Eric Schmidt aren't in it for the money you are insane. But they also want to make cool **** I'm sure, just like Apple does.
[Off-topic] litetaker:
Alright, I can agree with you here. Hmm... anyway, I really should think of a better topic to discuss on off-topic @xda. I kinda suck at picking good and "fun" things to argue about. Not even 3 pages, and already the debate here became heavy and I guess will eventually become pointless. Anyway, good to hear ur points too... I'm off to cooking up more light-hearted and probably more fun topics!

Up and away!
[Off-topic] SteveG12543:
I'm only going to dispute one thing with you: the HTC Rezound has a higher PPI than the iPhone, and it certainly isn't some crazy Chinese phone lol.

iPhone 5 = 326PPI

Rezound = 342PPI
[Off-topic] orangekid:
lol, every thread in this forum is pointless, and I argue just to argue half the time. Your topic was fine, I kinda just ran in a totally other direction with it.

If you just opened a thread saying "if you had a bagillion dollars what would you develop?" without using buzzwords like "iPhone" you'd do fine.

Word. Forgot about the 4.3" 720p.

BUT I said Japanese, not Chinese. I win!!
[Off-topic] litetaker:
Original crappy OP

The New OP was taken from this post. The original OP is here and the New OP from this post went to the OP making it the current OP

Well, it is a ballsy statement to say that one could run Apple better than someone experienced in the industry, especially since it is a multibillion dollar company. I say that smells.

Even I can run that company better and I have never, ever worked in an industry so far (unless you call interning at a company work experience).

It is not hard to see why. They are doing no innovation and 100% litigation. And all I see in their various products is upping the specs and prices and that's it. That is NOT innovation. It may be challenging to squeeze in more pixels in the same area, but guess WHAT. Apple didn't make that! It was hardworking other companies that manufacture better displays, better processors and chips that made that happen. Apple merely puts things together. In the light of this realization, we can clearly see that Apple did zilch, nada, शून्य, zéro, 零, нуль. No matter what language you speak, it will translate to "absolutely nothing". They did not improve the OS, just did minor tweaks or introduced features no one cares about (Siri, iMessages is a failure in implementation, facebook integration that I can do without, more facebook in my life != better life). Oh they added a new row of static and boring icons. If you see the jailbreak community, a good chunk of iOS users hate the interface and still stick with it. Beyond my understanding.

Oh, did I say absolutely nothing? My bad, I meant yes they did something alright - slow down an entire industry via litigation because "they couldn't come up with a new idea, boo-fricking-hoo!" It makes me think of the spoiled brat in the sandbox who fell down and wants to make others fall down too as he got hurt.

Long story short, I want this thread to be innovative, wacky, weird and funny ideas for the following question:

What would you do differently, if you were the CEO of Apple?

Try to think without fanboy-ism. Imagine you were suddenly given control to this powerful corporation, you need no longer think about Android and all, so let your answer NOT be to destroy iOS and let Android win. Though that would be awesome. I want to see if we can come up with better products AND features in existing ones to warrant the name of this topic (which is we can run Apple better than Apple).

commence the scuffle!

Well, frankly they are Taiwanese! Whoops, you lose again! :p
[Off-topic] system.img:
+1 for the शून्य thing! :D
[Off-topic] WiredPirate:
This forum has been overrun with Apple/iOS/iPhone threads lately. For the Android fan boys some of you claim to be, you seem extremely obsessed with Apple. I am not talking about any one person or group, just in general. js
[Off-topic] orangekid:
lol touche.

Well to answer you, I think Google Goggles used with AR in a sort of virtual world in plain site like that book Daemon would be pretty awesome.
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
is there a thread for "Why i hate android?" around here
[Off-topic] system.img:
Yes..should be somewhere around iphone-developers.com!
[Off-topic] elliwigy:
first thing that needs to b done is make it open source
[Off-topic] prototype7:
I'll read this when I have time, but for now, welcome to OT :p
[Off-topic] K.A.:
I'd sue my company and shut down Apple Inc. down...
[Off-topic] litetaker:
I could've added more Indian languages, as I am Indian too... But anyway! Added Hindi alone. :)

I am no apple fanboy nor google fanboy. I realize that is just being silly. I am a technology-nut. Show me a company that makes a rad product and I'll start humping its leg, sort to say. I genuinely commend companies trying to break new barriers, no matter what product it is. I love innovation and I love people making money on such cool tech coming from laboratories, research OR plain genius of a thinker. I want to therefore at least think of a nice awesome product.

Has anyone seen a Ted talk showing off a minority report-esque GUI for a computer? though it seems too complex and not so productive for people like me who just need a keyboard and a screen, that is definitely pushing the boundaries of what we think of as a computer! Same with MIT's Pranav Mistry's sixth Sense... These seem more like concepts now than real products. What we need is someone with the balls to think of an outrageous product, that may seem like a no-sell now... but down the line we say, sheesh, you used a mouse and keyboard and a screen??

I would like to see a future where the Computer is NOT confined to the box it is in. It is ever pervasive. No matter where u walk in ur home or say on the street, there should be a portal or interface that u can summon that will then do ur bidding. The portal is simply a sort of window into this computer. I dunno where that computer should reside, but our interactions to this computer should not be limited to the few feet around said device as it is now! Imagine that!
[Off-topic] MissionImprobable:
I think a lot of people could run Apple better in the long-term, but I don't know that Cook is concerned with that. Jobs came in telling everyone that for him to return he will have control, period. Doing so he raked in the cash. For Cook his plan may simply be to make as much as possible in the short term so that he can enjoy the bonuses and then move on. His claim to fame is being a bottom-line cost-cutter and streamliner, not a hands-on development specialist.

For the long-term I don't think Cook is good for the company by any means, especially his foolish litigation that seemingly will backfire on Apple at every level, possibly lead to injunctions, and has managed to solidify Samsung in the minds of consumers as being on par with Apple.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
I seriously think the mods should consider adding Apple into the list of words not allowed in titles. This is getting ridiculous.
[Off-topic] :
+infinity, at least whenever there is iNews lol.

I read somewhere that the A6 is made by Samsung, can anybody confirm that?
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
As much as I hate bumping this thread, the current buzz points to it being based on Samsung's 32nm chips.
[Off-topic] litetaker:
Updated OP to reflect my actual intentions... Original OP moved to a different post.

Great NEWS! The thread is now masquerading under an inconspicuous name... and has a more clear intention than iBashing. Read on the OP and proceed!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arsaw:
Read the stickies next time or use the search function.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
SEARCH >>>>>>> APPS SAFE TO REMOVE THREAD ON XDA .

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http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Agaranda:
I find that list incomplete for i9300 with stock ROM
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arsaw:
Well, if you have any suggestion to improve the list, please share in the thread.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Yes 100% agree let us know what is missing and note their is more than one list .

jje
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Baldilocks:
I posted a list a while back. It never got stickied though.

Better to FREEZE them instead of removing them. That way when you update, they don't get re-installed.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daveden123:
So whenever I watch a streaming video whether it is using Google play, Netflix, or YouTube app the internet just seems to go in an out. I have downloaded WiFi analyzer and speed test.net apps. Both are showing I have should have no issues streaming videos. Its really frustrating. Is this a known issue or should I get an RMA??
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daveden123:
Bump!!!
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AZImmortal:
This problem is likely to be either your router or your ISP. Have you tried testing streaming on a different network?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daveden123:
I don't have access to a different network. The kindle fire I sold to get the nexus 7 had no issues streaming video. Hence why I am concerned with my nexus 7.

U also have access to an iPad that has no issues either.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidnutt1130:
The problem is the router for sure,use the WiFi analyzer app to find the strongest channel then set your router to that channel,see if this helps and if not send me a message and we will try something else.I had the exact problems so I will take you through each of my steps I did until fixed.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daveden123:
Actually a reset of my router seemed to fix it. Thank god for kittens exploring.
[HTC One X] zakiyyhaider:
Hey guys!

Brought a htc one X, was working fine & all of a sudden wont turn on!?

ANY suggestions at all would be so helpfull please help me guys! :crying:
[HTC One X] GNSinned:
What happens when you plug the phone in? Does the green/orange led light up? If it does what color? Best case scenario, you have a bad cable or a bad adaptor and your phone wasn't charging. Worst case, fried board, dead battery or dead screen (phone is on, just the screen isn't lighting up).
[HTC One X] zakiyyhaider:
The orange or green light dont come on soo what now?? :(
[HTC One X] KirKone:
Hi, I have exact the same problem, nothing hapens if I connect the phone to the charger. But if I connect to a PC it showed up as APC device.

Is there anything I can do?

Greetings, KirK
[HTC One X] GNSinned:
You can try hooking it up to a PC and see if the PC can still find your phone. But from the sounds of it, it maybe a hardware failure somewhere. I would contact HTC if it's under warranty to have it repaired.
[HTC One X] cvenk:
I ahd the same problem, dead - even power did not help

Try putting it on power overnight.

I hvae it in service for now, (but I used CM10 - and it broke down) I just hope the service will not have any problems with it and don't see it, for changing my hole motherboard
[HTC One X] xRoper:
After having rooted it did they fix it?

Just flashed Ice Cold Jelly and rebooted but I seem to have no power to the unit now.

Obviously the bootloader is unlocked and it is rooted so I wasn't sure if they'd even work on it or what it would cost to do so. It is still under warranty.
[HTC One X] Mr Hofs:
When you connect the phone to a pc and it comes up as APX = Hardware failure ! As far as i know there is no fix for this
[HTC One X] cvenk:
They changed my motherboard and I got it back . Didn't have to pay nothing.
[HTC One X] little2304:
Found it.

I tryed everything, nothing worked.After the JB update the hox only shows his logo.

Last time i let him receive the big JB update, but before installing it i made a copy to update.zip on the root of the sd.

Then after installing the update and again only showing the htc logo, i rebooted in the recovery and used custom recovery to write the boot again. Now everything works .

Thx anyway.

Keep up the good work here:good::good::good:
[HTC One X] tomascus:
lol you bricked your phone by installing an ROM meant for the international One X, not the dual core version.
[HTC One X] darfux:
HTC one international ICJ bricked

Hi all,

Please forgive me if I've done something wrong posting here, I'm new here and I'm trying to post in the most relevant forum.

I have the international HTC One X (Tegra 3 etc) and Ive been using Ice Cold Jelly for a while. Yesterday I flashed Ice Cold 2.2 (the one meant for the international) with all the recommended wipes using TWRP. The phone worked fine for about 10 mins then froze with a messed up screen. I tried to reboot but it froze again during the reboot and hasn't turned on since. There's no LED at all when it's plugged in charging to any power source and it won't boot up no matter what I do.

I've done my best to search for solutions but to no avail, any advice anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!:fingers-crossed:
[HTC One X] Mr Hofs:
What happends when you plug it in the pc ? Does the pc recognize it somewhere in some state ?
[HTC One X] darfux:
Thanks for the quick response!

It doesn't seem to be recognised by any operating system at all - as in the operating systems can't see it. There's no notification of hardware failure or even a device being connected.
[HTC One X] Mr Hofs:
What happends when you hold the power button and the volume - button together for a long time.....say like 30 seconds
[HTC One X] darfux:
HTC one international ICJ bricked

Nothing. I've tried different button combinations for all sorts of periods of time with the phone plugged into an outlet, a computer and on it's own.
[HTC One X] Mr Hofs:
Then i can't do anything ..... Sorry.....
[HTC One X] darfux:
HTC one international ICJ bricked

That's what I was afraid of... Thanks for your help though! I'll keep at it and see if it'll magically come back to life before I ship it off to HTC.