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[Galaxy S III General] CuBz90:
I heard on the radio that the contactless sim is only included when you take out a Samsung Galaxy S3 contract with Orange.
[Galaxy S III General] studelube:
As of the 5th of October when the £50 free credit from Barclays offer has finished anyone can ring and order a compactness SIM. It's because every person that activates compactness payment automatically receives the £50. When I rang customer service I said that I had just got the contract from and orange store and that they told me role ring and get one and they sent me one out no questions asked. I got the phone on release day so they didn't even check my contract start day :D
[Galaxy S III General] mikeycollins13:
My experience obtaining a Quick Tap Sim..

I have called Orange many times and have had many different answers from all their advisers:

1) Never heard of NFC

2) You can only get this on a contract

3.) There is no such thing as an NFC Sim

4.) Never heard of quick tap

5.) Oh yes no problem I'll send you the same in the mail.All Our new Sim cards are NFC enabled

YEAH!!!!!-> Got a white, NON NFC Sim card....they are just morons beyond hope.

Also my phone is rooted and I have the feeling that these programs refuse to work with any rooted phones for security reasons. Unless I'm mistaken the only gentleman in this thread got it working was on a non-rooted phone????
[Galaxy S III General] m15chief:
I called and got an nfc sim. You can tell because it has an nfc logo on the back.

So far works great & i also got my £50 welcome credit from barclays :)
[Galaxy S III General] CuBz90:
So just to confirm, you can only get one if you're on an orange contract?

I wonder why T-Mobile arnt doing the same :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] Lennyuk:
T-Mobile and orange are both run as separate companies.Just because they are owned by the same body doesn't mean they will offer the same rewards to customers.

This app is an agreement between barclays and orange.
[Galaxy S III General] -josh-:
Ok so I managed to get my nfc SIM card have registered it and installed quick tap wallet. I registered with Barclays through the quick tap wallet and I am now waiting for it to show up in my wallet it's still saying that nothing is installed. Is this normal? Anyone know how long it should take?

-JOSH-
[Galaxy S III General] pr1vate piles:
Spoke to orange yesturday, should have it this week. Lady i spoke to was very helpful and quickly ordered it me :D
[Galaxy S III General] Lennyuk:
Ok with regards hacking this app.. its looking very unlikely. The app tries to run a java app that is stored on the nfc sim, so it makes it very very difficult for us to do anything to get around this.
[Galaxy S III General] julesg73:
I have it working ok on my rooted S3(orange contract) with Omega v26.1 :good:
[Galaxy S III General] AndyCr15:
I now have my NFC SIM, it's working, Orange Wallet recognises I have an NFC SIM, but when I press to download the Barclaycard app, it loads a page saying that this phone cannot use NFC.

I downloaded the Barclaycard app using the link earlier in this thread, when I open that, it tells me the same thing.

Those people saying they registered with Barclaycard, I assume that's through one of the apps? Is there a direct link?

Anyone got any ideas why Orange is happy with the NFC SIM but Barclaycard doesn't detect it?
[Galaxy S III General] jdta09:
Not sure why the Barclaycard app would complain.

Probably best to go through the full process, ie QuickTap app -> Barclays website -> Wait for QuickTap icon to appear -> automatic download of Barclays app.
[Galaxy S III General] AndyCr15:
As I said in my post, this doesn't work... :(
[Galaxy S III General] jdta09:
Is it the app that you downloaded from the link here that complains? Maybe you should remove that and go through the standard installation?
[Galaxy S III General] CuriosityProofCat:
Alrighty, read through the thread, and thought I should contribute my two cents. For information, my phone is an unbranded GS3 GT-I9300.

I ordered a shiny new GS3 through phones4u on Orange in the middle of September, thinking I could easily get that nifty free £50 of NFC goodness. However, of course, no organisation is stupid enough to simply hand money out to the general public, and I have spent the last few weeks trying to get at it. Firstly, the Mobile Wallet app will not work without an Orange QuickTap micro-sim, which while at first the Orange service peeps had never heard of, eventually they agreed to send me one and I plugged it in. Next however, the normal process of opening Orange's Mobile Wallet, disabling Wifi, adding the Barclaycard Service and completing the forms consistently ends with the (Barclaycard) error "A problem has occurred: we cannot complete your request". Calling Orange gets you someone who has never heard of NFC (utterly useless customer service), while calling Barclaycard (eventually) got me someone who hinted that it might be the phone operating software. Ah ha...

After other repeated calls to Orange, eventually my problem was "escalated" and they said that non-branded phones were incompatible with NFC payments (false), and that Orange-branded S3's were special with a special hardware chip in them (false, unless they meant the QuickTap micro-sim), and that phones bought outside Orange from other retailers, while on Orange's network, were not the responsibility of Orange to sort out (sort-of grumbly perhaps true). After a bit more arguing one Orange peep said that on the *#1234# version list, the CSC that works with QuickTap was supposed to be I9300ORABLG1, not my I9300OXABLG8, and that this meant the hardware was different. I disagreed, as this is a software difference, and a quick google later I am now downloading the new firmware and I will flash it this afternoon and get back to you all.

Any thoughts while it's downloading?
[Galaxy S III General] rayleee:
Orange Quick Tap

We helped develop this so let me try to add some clarity.

For this to run, you need a customised version of Android that Orange have built. It is only available on phones bought directly from Orange after a particular date and will, in addition, need a Micro-SIM with a Secure Element built into it, available only from Orange. This is designed to have very strong levels of security and meet certain requirements from MasterCard and Barclaycard in order to run. So, please do not assume that just because you have a SG3 with an Orange SIM in it the downloaded app will work. I suggest you ask Orange to swap your phone for one that has the relevant ROM (not sure of the version number) and you should, after getting the correct Micro-SIM be good to go.
[Galaxy S III General] jdta09:
Mine works on I9300OXABLG8, so don't think it's that, I'm afraid.

And my phone was bought sim-free from CPW in July.
[Galaxy S III General] CuriosityProofCat:
Thanks for the advice, I do appreciate it.

I have the micro-SIM with a secure element built into it, I'm not just using any old SIM. It is very specifically a "Quick Tap Contactless SIM", as it says on the packaging, and the pin arrangement on the base of the SIM matches the designs of Orange's secure SIM's found online.

What is the difference in doing this compared to downloading and flashing a stock Orange ROM from say, this website? (Replace _ with http etc)

_androidromupdate.com/2012/06/10/orange-samsung-galaxy-s3-stock-rom-firmware/
[Galaxy S III General] ticktime:
I don't think Orange ROM is needed here. I am using unbranded UK ROM and Barclayscard NFC payment works fine for me with a contactless micro-sim from Orange.
[Galaxy S III General] Lennyuk:
What I want to know, other than to make this app exclusive to one carrier, why would barclays have not used the NFC WITH!!! Secure element that is in every single one of our S3 devices already!

Saying that you are using a sim with a secure element to add protection is nonsense.

Back to helping the guy with issues. Have you actually made sure NFC is turned on in your phone?
[Galaxy S III General] NFC Guy:
An Orange-specific ROM is not needed for this to work. However, many custom ROMs will not work. Orange have made use of a readily-available API to allow communication with the SIM's secure element. Make sure that your custom ROM devs include the necessary patches and everything should be fine. Search for SEEK for Android to learn more about the API needed - it's a Google code page.

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Samsung ultimately has control of the embedded secure element in S3s, unless they've agreed to cede control to Orange. Furthermore, embedded secure elements are liable to self-destruction if they detect tampering, which would thereby render NFC payment capabilities of that phone permanently broken. Using a SIM secure element allows for much greater flexibility, though not necessarily greater security.
[Galaxy S III General] CuriosityProofCat:
Is there any chance you could post specifics of your device here? There can't be many differences, as I am also using an unbranded UK ROM (as far as I know).

Yes, definitely. The problem comes at registration - the Mobile Wallet app opens fine, I go to Add Service, Barclarycard, Subscription click here to continue, Ok, then Chrome opens and I end up at Barclaycard website with the choice of Register / Login, click Register, go through a few pages of filling in details, setting PIN, then finally hit Accept on the terms and conditions, and I always get the "An error has occured: we cannot complete your request" page. I have tried this over the phone data network (as it's supposed to) and over Wifi.

If I plug the same URL from the phone into my laptop I end up at the same registration page, but with an extra box asking for my "registration code", which Orange's website tells me I can get from the Mobile Wallet app, but I can't find anywhere in the app. This might be another way around the problem, if anyone has any ideas.

Thanks for the help guys, I'd really like to get this working.
[Galaxy S III General] Lennyuk:
try to hit menu in chrome and tell it to request desktop version of the page, see if that helps.
[Galaxy S III General] PaulusJ93:
I can clear this up, pre 05/09 the new and upgrade sim cards we non-nfc and not provisioned on the quick tap service. After 05/09 new and upgrades for s3 included an NFC and they are pretty provisioned with quick tap. A replacement sim card is not preprovisioned with quick tap and you need to register interest on orange world. The latest ouk ROM just includes the app AFAIK and the devices sent out on/after 05/09 as new or upgrade should have this preinstalled.
[Galaxy S III General] rayleee:
I'm guessing none.. but you can never tell with Orange. Surprised that Orange sent you the NFC SIM as they usually only do this when they supplied the phone. Did it work?

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Samsung have yet to give anyone the keys to the embedded SE and would, I suspect, be more likely to develop their own TSM services to interface with the embedded SIM (more than an educated guess actually).
[Galaxy S III General] m15chief:
I had that problem. Go in and clear tge app data. Then instead of getting a screen to register with bc you get a screen saying already registered. Log in and the app downloads.
[Galaxy S III General] CuriosityProofCat:
Requesting the desktop version on Chrome results in the "Not available for your device" error page. Uninstalled Chrome, but all attempts at registering with the built-in browser end in the same "Sorry there was a problem- we are not able to carry out your request".

Not yet!

When I received my phone it came with the non-nfc micro-sim, as you say. But I definitely received the NFC micro-sim, the phone itself acknowledges it by allowing me into the Mobile Wallet app where before it would say my sim was incorrect.

There are many cases of success on this thread from others with the non-branded GT-I9300 handset on Orange - what am I doing wrong?
[Galaxy S III General] mintvilla:
Thought id chip in.

I got my GS3 from P4U near launch day on Orange on their JUMP programme, read through the comments on here so thought id give it a go (i do run CM10 so i might have to do some nandroid magic to use this)

rang orange option 1 2 4, the guy didnt have a clue, even though i said i had a GS3 he was going to put me through to the iphone team..... anyway he put me through to the android team which am assuming is in wales as this welsh bloke was very helpful, he didnt know what the procedure was so he put me on hold, and asked his mates.... couple of minutes later he said because i was on P4U and was a generic handset (i never told him this btw but he knew) he didnt think it would work, i was like duh its android i'l flash an orange rom if i have to, it will be fine... he said he'd check with level 2, put me on hold again, came back and said they thought it wouldnt work as my phone was generic however if i wanted to give it ago, that would be fine, and are sending me a NFC enabled sim out, should have it by the weekend so i'll report back how i get on.

I'll assume CM10 not work, but i'll give it ago anyway.
[Galaxy S III General] CuriosityProofCat:
Here's a thought. When I first arrived on Orange, and had my number ported over from my old network, the mobile data refused to work because the number on my sim card conflicted with my ported number, and the only way I had to change the sim number was to change the "Me" contact in my contact list to get my phone (Settings->About Device->Status->My phone number) to show the correct one. As soon as it changed poof, the mobile data worked like a charm.

Now when my QuickTap sim arrived, the sticker on the packaging didn't give a new number, and it worked pretty much immediately even as I was putting the phone down on Orange to organise the sim-swap over to it. Could it be possible that there is a number on the sim which is conflicting with my mobile number and preventing the Barclaycard registration?
[Galaxy S III General] -josh-:
I finally got it working on my phone. I ordered the nfc sim and installed quick tap. I was using check Rom 4 I think at the time and it just would not install the Barclays app. I then went back to the latest orange stock firmware logged into the Barclaycard.co.uk page in desktop mode on the stock browser. I then pressed the resend button that was near the top of the page and the app finally installed.

I am currently running omega Rom v27 and I had to install the app again but it did it automatically this time as soon as I logged into quick tap the option came up to install it again.

I have just come back from McDonald's where I treated my son to a happy meal lol and everything worked great. God it was a lot of messing about though but it does seem to have something to do with what firmware your running.
[Galaxy S III General] CuriosityProofCat:
Hey, that sounds great, well done!

Could you post details of where you got the official Orange Stock firmware and exactly what version it is please?
[Galaxy S III General] AndyCr15:
I'm guessing this is the ROM to use -

http://www.hotfile.com/dl/168511255/76c1349/I9300BVBLG2_I9300ORABLG1_ORA.zip.html

Which is from here -

http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&model=GT-I9300&pcode=ORA&os=1&type=1#firmware

So... if I flash this, install everything, upgrade back to Jelly Bean... it will hopefully still work?
[Galaxy S III General] CuriosityProofCat:
I have just flashed my S3 to that very firmware (latest stock Orange), and the only difference I can see is that they have an NFC icon on the top bar when the NFC is enabled, but the Mobile Wallet app registration still fails with "Sorry a problem occurred" upon agreeing to the terms and conditions.

Anyone?
[Galaxy S III General] AndyCr15:
I tried to flash it and I think it didn't book properly. Well, I waited 6 or 7 minutes and got nervous. Just flashing back to JB now...
[Galaxy S III General] CuriosityProofCat:
STOP THE PRESS, we have success.

Believe it or not, the entire issue was due to the fact that the Barclaycard registration just didn't like my address - tried registering under a different name and address and it worked flawlessly, £50 credited immediately.

Thanks for all the help anyway guys, and good luck to everyone else still trying to get this to work!
[Galaxy S III General] AndyCr15:
Did you not have the same issue as me, that when it opened the browser, the browser said it couldn't find the NFC?
[Galaxy S III General] pr1vate piles:
Having issues setting mine up. Got nfc sim this morning and when going to barclays site comes up with error posted earlier on. Going to flash the orange rom and set it up then i'll change back to my JB rom. Fingers crossed.
[Galaxy S III General] AndyCr15:
Good luck. Someone else says it didn't work.

I spoke to Barclaycard who said as I got the phone from CPW that they couldn't do anything for me. Someone from Orange should be calling me back, but I'm kinda giving up hope on this one.
[Galaxy S III General] pr1vate piles:
Got mine from CPW as well. Downloading the roms now so will see
[Galaxy S III General] mintvilla:
While am waiting for my NFC Micro sim card to come through the post, has anyone tried, flashing the orange rom, doing all the registration requirements, getting the £50 added to the account, then back up the app, flash back to cm10 (or whatever custom rom you use) then reinstall the app? would that work?
[Galaxy S III General] pr1vate piles:
This is what im going to attempt to do. Rom is slow should know in an hour if this method works.
[Galaxy S III General] jay1980uk:
Waitin for my sim card to activate now :D
[Galaxy S III General] mintvilla:
Thanks mate, keep me updated how you get on please.
[Galaxy S III General] pr1vate piles:
Well got the orange rom now. The quick tap took me to barclays site which then took my to registration. Further then i got before.
[Galaxy S III General] mintvilla:
cool, so next do the registration, get your £50 quid, back up the app, then root and install cm10, then restore the app see how that works.

Also did you use stock orange rom, or a rooted custom stock rom?
[Galaxy S III General] pr1vate piles:
Stupid registration doesn't like my county. Anyone got a link so i can register on a normal pc instead of phone?
[Galaxy S III General] jay1980uk:
Barclaycards tell me that fone is not supported . Does this not wrk on LIB rooted ?

Thanks invadvance

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] ticktime:
Just leave the county field blank.
[Galaxy S III General] louie875:
Ok just to straitghten things up as im a little confused. I have no contract with orange, just ordered a normal NON-NFC sim from orange. Could I ring them up and get them to send me a NFC sim card? if so will the the registration process work on my unbranded phone? Also if i take my orange sim out and put my sim in that I use normally will the app still work?

Thank you to who ever answers my questions
[Galaxy S III General] demon-knight:
Just had a sim delivered from orange, the daft buggers sent a normal sized and non nfc sim out.

Just emailed them lets see what happens no.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
No, it requires the nfc sim installed to work.
[Galaxy S III General] louie875:
So the guy that said it worked when he had taken the SIM out of the phone was talking crap?
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
There was a post from someone involved in the development of this programme earlier, who I'm sure stated it wouldn't work without the nfc sim although I stand to be corrected.
[Galaxy S III General] davem1919:
got it working

Ok heres how i got it working

S3 from CPW non branded

NFC sim from Orange

Would not work on Omega 26.1

Re flashed official orange stock

Installed Orange Wallet / went through barclaycard setup process, got my £50 credit straight away.

Backed up Wallet and Barclaycard app

Re flashed omega

restored orange wallet

And suprise suprise it works.

Looks like the barclaycard app checks if you are on Orange firmware

hope it helps

Dave
[Galaxy S III General] jay1980uk:
Has some1 got a link to the orange firmware plz

Thanks in advance j
[Galaxy S III General] lasikie:
Orange firmware isn't needed, I have it installed and working on phone unbranded from cpw
[Galaxy S III General] setspeed:
The sooner Google (or ANYONE) gets NFC payments sorted for everyone without carrier-restrictions and all this effing about, the better.

I for one am really keen to start using contactless payments on my phone, but there just isn't a decent option at the moment.
[Galaxy S III General] davem1919:
you must have been lucky then mate on Omega barclaycard app just kept saying cannot be installed on this phone as soon as I put stock orange back on it sailed through

D
[Galaxy S III General] louie875:
I totally agree, it's driving me nuts. I really want to use mobile payments but there is no way to get use it if no one is creating the software. It drives me insane when I read articles about the low adoption rate and no one is really using NFC payments. How are you supposed to use NFC payments if there no way to use because no one is creatingssoftware for it, all the hardware is in place but no software. It's just irritating, yes I knows about NFC cards but why are the banks not just issuing the ? I don't want to have to ring up my bank and beg for a contact less card.
[Galaxy S III General] -josh-:
I tried to do this with rgui miui last night and it was a no go. Backed up both apps and installed them with titanium and they both just did nothing so had to flash back to omega v27. I'm gutted because I'm gagging to use miui but I want to spend my free cash as well lol.

Has anyone managed to get this working on an miui Rom?
[Galaxy S III General] AndyCr15:
Hmm, odd that installing the Orange ROM didn't work for the first guy, but now others are saying this is the key bit. As you're saying back it up, does this mean you're rooting? Is the app still working on rooted phones?
[Galaxy S III General] pr1vate piles:
Will try this again now matey.
[Galaxy S III General] AndyCr15:
Also, those flashing to Orange, did you do it from a JB ROM? I tried and it boot looped, although I don't think I selected to wipe, which was probably a big mistake...
[Galaxy S III General] pr1vate piles:
I had same problem, i just wiped it then it booted into orange rom.
[Galaxy S III General] mintvilla:
which orange rom have you used mate?
[Galaxy S III General] pr1vate piles:
There was a link a couple pages back to sammobile.
[Galaxy S III General] jadaress1:
Do I flash this with odin or cwm recovery?
[Galaxy S III General] discophil:
Ok people this is how it works as far as i know - I work for Orange and have an orange phone provided by work.

The quicktap wallet manages new services (barclaycard or others in the future) that use NFC for payments. Quick tap wallet is used to authenticate "who you are" by checkign u have quicktap sim. When a new NFC service becomes available (in this case barclaycard in association with Orange) You use the quicktap wallet to check your sim, then it gets you to register with barclaycard (you get your £50 immediatly after registration) then barclaycard send a file to your phone which is basically some sort of encrypted "virtual debit card" which is stored on the orange quicktap wallet app.

So to recap, quicktap wallet manages all your virtual cards and the seperate barclaycard app is for making your payments but uses the quick tap wallet app which holds your virtual debit card.

As for needing an Orange firmware ROM, you dont! I have flashed unbranded UK ROM totally stock (LG8) no root or anything. I removed the orange ROM so i can get normal unbranded firmware updates etc.

To use quicktap you need an Orange quicktap SIM and that is all. You dont need to be on Orange Firmware or anything.

If you dont have a quicktap SIM then call customer services and ask them to send you one. Once you get it, just call them again and register it. Once the new sim is working then just download the quicktap wallet app which knows if you have a quicktap SIM or not, then sign up for barclaycard service :) simples lol