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[Nexus One General] -DarkKnight-:
not working for me

im also getting random reboots within 15 seconds of the phone booting

and if it doesn't random reboot then then

im getting random reboots on runny 6.05 on my n1
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Spetnazz:
Hello Guys!

I am new on this forums, actually, this is my first post, so to start of with, I want to say this to you all; Hello everybody!

I don't know if this question have been asked / answered before, but I searched for it in the search bar, and I didn't find anything, so.. I've been wanting to install a ROM on my Galaxy Nexus for a while, and I found a pretty cool looking ROM in here, which I decided to download. I haven't rooted my phone or anything yet, but I will do it as soon as I get this question answered, and my question is; If I root, and install a ROM on my Galaxy Nexus, will I still receive the 'official Android updates' from Google? Or do I have to remove the ROM, to receive the new updates? :)

Kind regards

Spetnazz - I'm sorry if my english is kinda bad, but I'm from Denmark, and I know my english isn't the best
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kyokeun1234:
First of all, hello!

I'm assuming that the ROM is custom ROM? If so, then you won't receive the over-the-air (AKA. OTA) update from Google.

If you're ONLY rooted, then you get a OTA from Google

In order to get the OTA from Google after you flashed any ROM, follow this guide
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
You only get the update if you're on the stock factory images. Once you start changing things, you get off of the official update train.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Spetnazz:
Yup, it's a custom ROM. Ahh okay, thanks for the fast answer! But I don't think I'll need the OTA updates anyways, if I get this custom ROM installed, since the ROM gets updated aswell :)

And again, thank you! I'll save this link, to if I for some reason would want to get the OTA update from Google, after I've installed the ROM on my device.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] beekay201:
no, you will not receive google ota updates while being on a custom rom. flash google galaxy nexus factory images (tutorial here) to get them. read also this: some terms and concepts might be familiar, but read the whole thing anyway.

don't use toolkits, no matter what others say, since you still don't know what a toolkit is supposed to be doing (perhaps you won't ever have or feel the need to use one). don't trust odin more than fastboot (there's a reason why fastboot is available, even google teaches you to use it, and it's the only aosp/google supported method besides official ota update process, and not even on the regional variants).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gagb1967:
N O, No
[Acer Iconia A500] cubano2031:
is just an idea, but is that possible?but some windows may be installed, or some linux??
[Acer Iconia A500] silverknight7:
I know there is a Ubuntu port out there so far but the last time I checked, it was still very buggy.
[Acer Iconia A500] cubano2031:
hopefully in the near future can be made!!??
[Acer Iconia A500] cubano2031:
??(This is microsoft specialist on the microsoft site)??

?

Dear cubano2031:

Hi,

Acer Iconia Tab A500 specification suggests the compatible operating system as Android Honeycomb.

However according to the hardware specifications, it seems that you can install Windows 8 Consumer Preview in this tablet.
[Acer Iconia A500] gears177:
Check my dulbooting thread ;) im assuming he probably meant the arm version but judging on how useless xp was i dont foresee windows 8 being useful :/ although most of the lag is created from the actual app emulation but stil unless someone wants to create a compatiblle recovery.img (you could utelise fastboot) kernel bootloader drivers etc then i dont think it has a chance :(
[Acer Iconia A500] calebcoverdale:
I really don't see Windows 8 coming the Iconia due to the type of processor that we have. The Tegra doesn't have any windows drivers as far as I know...... There is more of a chance of us seeing Mac running on our tablet :P. Due to the fact that it has a Unix base :P
[Acer Iconia A500] gears177:
i dont either maybe if were extremely lucky a stripped down mini version of iit but even thats wishfule thinking
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
Windows 8/RT will NEVER be installable on the A500.

Ever.

End of.
[Acer Iconia A500] sergeantosborne:
never say never

It's been my experience if someone is determined enough anything is possible. In fact you may just have ignited a fire and determination in someone just to prove you wrong. Let's hope so! :D
[Acer Iconia A500] haag498:
I'm not going to be the one to do it, but I too think this is all but impossible... After all, there's an ARM build, so all that's really missing are drivers. The WiFi/Bluetooth chipset is prety widespread, so this one ought to work. There aren't too many manufacturers of touchscreen devices, so this one ought to work, too, and for audio the situation is much the same. MMC chipsets are mostly broadcom anyway (a500 too, I guess) so there's another component that most likely will work. Also, USB will work as it's well specified and used for a lot of stuff internally by most devices... The only major issues could be with the graphics card, as I don't think Win8 likes VESA mode too much... Also, I wouldn't epect A501 UMTS to work. While graphics support may be a fair amount of work, it certainly seems possible... and UMTS isn't all that important after all (it's unlikely to work without direct manufacturer support as baseband protocols are a nightmare to work with).
[Acer Iconia A500] yaworski:
But you need to take into consideration that this is a totally new system. It will probably come only with the drivers for hardware approved by MS (like with Windows Phone). So unless some other Win8 tablets are going to use exactly same hardware parts with same configuration we wouldn't have anywhere to get those drivers from. We don't even know if Win8 would support Tegra2 instruction set which may be missing some instruction sets available in newer processors.
[Acer Iconia A500] Moscow Desire:
Remember who you are dealing with.... Microsoft.

Remember who is pushing out Surface Tabs.. (sometime in the next decade).... Microsoft.

And I will guess, the hardware drivers will be extremely closed source. And the tabs will probably run on different hardware than the current tabs.

A tech can say "well, your tablet certainly has the hardware to run it". Don't mean diddly squat unless it's the same hardware they support. And I would guess, MS ain't gonna support Android tabs. Just like iOS.

And look who they partnered with..... Nokia. The last of the dumbphone manufacturers, who are just about to go under if android phones get any cheaper. Sorta says how "this" story is gonna pan out. "Too little.... Too late"

Windows8 touch on an A500? Ain't gonna happen. They already have a W500 (which nobody wants).

RIP Win8...... Stick with PC's.

MD
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
Actually, the main issue why it won't run is less to do with the hardware drivers than you might think.

The main cause is down to the bootloader and the interaction between it and the OS. Even if you managed to get RT somehow on to an A500, you'll never get it to boot. It would be easier to write your OS from scratch.
[Acer Iconia A500] yaworski:
I would rather think the oposite as it should be definitelly easier for a hacker/cracker to remove requirement for specific bootloader (e.g. encrypted one as MS requires from hardware makers) than to fetch working drivers.

That way or another there are just too many problems to overcome to make it work.
[Acer Iconia A500] gears177:
Unfortu'ently the algorithm used to crack it wouldnt expire in my life time :( completely useless it would still be sweet though hmmm....
[Acer Iconia A500] skurtov:
Don't android tablets run on ARM architecture? Thats incompatible with Windows right there.
[Acer Iconia A500] lyme:
Microsoft has said that they will not be selling the Win8RT OS seperately and that the only way to get it is pre-installed on a tablet. Because of that, and that the A500 doesn't meet the resolution, multi-touch, or have appropraite drivers, the only way to get Win8RT on the A500 is through hacking of the OS.

So it can be done, but it isn't going to be easy, nor would it be legal due to the licencing issues (you can't buy the winRT os without a tab).
[Acer Iconia A500] Moscow Desire:
For everybody that wants Windows on their tab....

http://market.yandex.ru/model.xml?modelid=7268033&hid=6427100

Much easier... and they have tons of them left for a reason....... :laugh:

MD
[Acer Iconia A500] sRDennyCrane:
The W500 doesn't really even factor into this equation. It's Win7. Windows 8 was specifically designed to be tablet-friendly. Windows 7 on a touch device is... problematic at best.

Better to look at what Acer ~IS~ doing in the Win8 arena:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/03/acer-iconia-w700-w510-windows-8/

But the real problem is Microsoft mandating what will and will not be allowed to run Windows 8 RT. Their secure boot garbage and requirements for locked bootloaders on RT will be a huge issue. Aside from the aforementioned issues with device drivers, which will be a HUGE issue, Microsoft is doing all it can to block just anyone from installing the final release on unsupported devices.

Of course, with enough time and people, all this can be bypassed and someone, somewhere will make it happen, but the question will be... Will it be worth the effort? We have a great tablet that runs great on ICS and JB. Why mess with a good thing? Windows 8 RT is a gimped version of Windows that's made for phones. The full Windows 8 is a resource-hog that will clog an a500 and bring it to a standstill. I just don't see a need for this.
[Acer Iconia A500] Shades89:
Hi guys

with a google search I found the file. cab with the driver (Tegra2) for windows 8.

If you want I can upload it online :)
[Acer Iconia A500] gears177:
I dont think anyone is willing to try and tackle the task of getting win8 installed on our lovely iconias :-[
[Acer Iconia A500] Moscow Desire:
I'm confident "somebody" is going to try this. No doubt in my mind.

Just not me ;)

MD
[Acer Iconia A500] Moscow Desire:
Sure, why not. Post a link to it.

I'm sure "somebody" will try this.
[Acer Iconia A500] Shades89:
NVIDIA Tegra 302.61 Windows 8 (ARMv7)

http://www.mediafire.com/?q8ej72ha64pk66l

NVIDIA Windows 8 (ARMv7) Display INF file

DriverVer = 05/08/2012, 9.17.13.0261

NVIDIA_DEV.020005 = "NVIDIA Tegra T20"

NVIDIA_DEV.020105 = "NVIDIA Tegra T30"

:good: ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] gears177:
Hope your right :p
[Acer Iconia A500] sRDennyCrane:
caveat emptor
[Acer Iconia A500] blucmal:
Microsoft surface rt is running tegra 3 isnt it? Maybe some of the newer tabs with tegra 3 would be a better bet. Asus infinity?

---------- Post added at 08:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:29 AM ----------

Dual boot rt and android?
[Acer Iconia A500] sRDennyCrane:
Secure Boot won't allow that.
[Acer Iconia A500] Skrilax_CZ:
Gosh, guys - think:

Do you think that secure boot means that bootloader verifies images of the OS or that the OS verifies the bootloader that boots it? ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] gears177:
Im willing to bet its the bootloader that verifies images of the OS :)
[Acer Iconia A500] blackthund3r:
I do hope that's right ;)

Even so we.'d have to rip the ROM off a legit windows 8 device and redistribute it which would be illegal. Although if somebody owned a tablet with win8 and "backed it up"... ;)

As for drivers, I'm sure Tegra 2 and Tegra 3 are fairly similar
[Acer Iconia A500] terrormattie:
I think its neither off them because they exist already. So there wouldnt be anything special about it. A bootloader that cheks the OS runs on most phones thats why we need to hack/unlock it. So its definitly not that one.
[Acer Iconia A500] ctiger:
The Surface is out, is there a port coming for A500? I think Android is just fine, but really want to experience Win8.
[Acer Iconia A500] taodan:
Try Windows 8 on your laptop or desktop.
[Acer Iconia A500] sRDennyCrane:
I think the majority of people who do that, or like me who DID try it on the open beta, will NOT want this OS on our tablets. It is SO clunky. That tiled screen is just a hot mess. The entire thing seems geared toward people addicted to social media and simply HAVE to know at a glance who commented on their post, who retweeted them, and how many likes they've received.

Android already has interactive, self-updating widgets for our screens. And, they can be scaled and tweaked to fit however we want it.

So, yeah... go spend some time with Win 8. You might actually love it. Me, I'll keep Win 7 on my PC and Android on all my mobile devices.
[Acer Iconia A500] ecossais:
In my opinion Windows 8 is an awful product, if it is anything like the open beta I tried. I also am sticking with Win 7 on my laptop and Android on my tablets.
[Acer Iconia A500] Danny2:
I tried the Win 8 preview, and I thought it was absolute garbage! When I posted my thoughts on this site, I was stormed with replies about how was stupid I was and how great windows 8 was! Who are these people?
[Acer Iconia A500] armada786:
People like me who actually enjoy it and are equally entitled to an opinion as you are. By the same token, you are not entitled to everyone being in agreement with you. I think Windows 8 would be wonderful on a tablet, but it's seriously a pipe dream to hope it'll ever run on an Android tablet (not that RT would be all that good). I guess I can hope for Win 7 tablets/convertibles to come down a bit. Would increase my productivity a lot to have some real applications.
[Acer Iconia A500] JWingWangWong:
I enjoy Windows 8. Its a lot different to Windows 7 and has a lot of things that may be confusing to many at first, but once you get used to it Windows 8 is pretty good.

So yea I'm one of those people you speak of, but hey its a matter of preference can't blame ya if you hate it.
[Acer Iconia A500] blackthund3r:
Anyone got a surface yet? ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] ctiger:
Well, I can see you are in the Android ecosystem, so it is ok to expect you have less idea how the tiles work. But I'm using a Windows Phone, and feel fine with the interface, in fact, I like the Windows Phone interface better than Android, so that's why I'm interested to this idea of install Windows 8 RT on our tab, it's a T2 v.s. T3 on the Surface RT, so should be close. For the A500 I have, it can do some things, but mostly, it is an ebook/internet browser, if there's a system to extend it's power, it'll be great.
[Acer Iconia A500] ultramag69:
Not likely. This has been asked in just about every Android forum I been to. The OS's are too different and you need the specific drivers. This same question was being asked when I started playing with my Samsung galaxy tab (7" 1st gen). Still no answer there so I'd say you will be waiting a long time...
[Acer Iconia A500] sRDennyCrane:
It's impressive that you could deduce that I'm in the Android ecosystem... here in the A500 forums... but it's inaccurate to believe that I don't know how tiles work. I've used them on WP7 and several pre-release beta versions of Windows 8. If YOU like it, great. I hope you get it to work. But after spending time with it on phones and computers, I find it clunky, blocky, and does nothing better than the existing scalable, interactive Android widgets.

Oh sure, it's better than iOS, but that's not saying too much.
[Acer Iconia A500] BBAHunter:
I'm still hopeful that someone smart will make a ROM for it...After playing with a RT tablet two day's ago, I think WIndows 8 RT is MUCH better than Android and I would love to have it run on my A500.
[Acer Iconia A500] eseraphim:
Is is worth it?!?

Assuming the Acer Iconica A501... the processor in question is a 1 GHz Dual-core ARM Cortex-A9, meaning Tegra 250 AP20H (Ventana) using ARMv7, and ULP GeForce graphics at 300 MHz.

Yes, there are some rumours and hints towards this possibility...

Steve Ballmer hints at possible future Win support for Tegra

http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/01/tegra-2-cameos-at-ballmer-ces-keynote-with-windows-on-arm-demo/

[ROM?] Windows 8 ARM. Tegra 2 & Tegra 3 Driver available!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1831095

IE10 in Windows 8 (ARM), running on a Tegra 2 processor.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/12/m...t-explorer-10/

BUT! Although it might be a possibility, is it worth the price of its limitations.

Firstly, it appears to be performance tuned to a Tegra 3 baseline from the noted (mentioned) releases of Asus VivoTab RT, Dell XPS 10, and IdeaPad Yoga 11(?) amongst others.

Secondly, so far even hardware developers are complaining about the mandated 'secure boot' feature which is yet another attempt at a locked down bootloader.

Thirdly, and in my opinion most importantly, is that not only is there no x86 application abstraction layer, but that the OS seems locked into certified apps from the Windows Store, ala iOS app store.

Even if someone created a ROM, what then? How much work is needed to make it usable outside of MS grasp? Time will tell.
[Acer Iconia A500] devize:
What's 'clunky' about the tiles? I've never found widgets to be that great on Android, I haven't found any to be particularly useful except for an RSS reader and most of them just look plain ugly together. Atleast the tile interface is consistent, making it look much nicer than a cluttered homescreen full of random widgets and icons. That goes for WP8 too, which IMO looks pretty nice with the updated start screen.

W8, from my time with it, seems like a nice OS for a touch device. I'm not a big fan of it for desktops compared to W7 but I can definitely see myself using it on a tablet. One thing I know for sure though is that I won't be using it on my Iconia.
[Acer Iconia A500] Eric Karz:
Even IF some how win rt made it to the A500

we would have to get apps made for that version .

its the main reason i opted out of getting a MS surface tab

sounds like old school days - hard ware :laugh: comes out and no 3rd party software support ..lol :laugh:

ps : i almost got that W500 coz it had windows 7 on it but they were sold out . :p
[Acer Iconia A500] acerdroid:
I do like windows 8 on the laptop but to use it on a ANDROID device not for me. Im running cm10 flex suppercharged and its the best for me
[Acer Iconia A500] DrVooDoo:
Well, Cotulla port Win8 on HTC HD2.

Any comments?
[Acer Iconia A500] sRDennyCrane:
Let's see... they got a newer version of Windows onto an older Windows phone. A phone from 2009.

Hmmm... a comment... "Attaboy"?

Not sure the relevance to a thread about getting Win8 on the Acer Iconia A500 Android tablet. And we don't even know if he has any working drivers, yet....not that they'd work on the A500 anyway.
[Acer Iconia A500] Verdeee:
Windows 8, i guess...No
[Acer Iconia A500] DrVooDoo:
It is possible to download from where win rt?

That would be, with what to work.
[Acer Iconia A500] DeanGibson:
A bit of perspective is called for

Q: I have a tricycle. Can I make it into an airplane?

A: Yes, it you add enough parts.

The problem is, the effort to do so. Most of the time, it's far easier to just buy the right device.

People who suggest these projects usually don't have the faintest idea of the amount of work involved. Sometimes they do, which is why they usually don't offer any donation.

Most people with the skills AND TIME to do such a project, are going to devote those skills and time to something far more productive.

More productive for them, not for the requester.
[Acer Iconia A500] Dr.GM:
technical speaking , nothing is impossible , but the actual question is , does it worth the pain of spending months trying to figure out "how", then figuring out the "way through" ?

yes , it might be a good idea to be able to buy a blank tablet and just install any operating system like Windows 8 / Linux / Android / iOS ... but however all these companies (with except for linux) are paying their top class engineers (and their lawyers as well) a massive fortune to keep the exclusivity of their products ONLY for them through MANY restrictions both in soft/hard ware levels ... it would be waaay much much easier to work in a kitchen or some restaurant and food-poison people , and then getting paid 300 bucks/month to buy you a second tablet with the desired OS ;)

the same question , why we can't play PS3 games on PC , or WII , or XBOX , or even our tablets and vice versa :victory:
[Acer Iconia A500] DrVooDoo:
what about this?

_4pda.ru/2013/1/1/84495

_s.4pda.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/hd2rt-480x287.jpg

It`s phone 2009 year.
[Acer Iconia A500] sRDennyCrane:
There is no WAY I'm going to go to some Russian site in this discussion. And those are incomplete links anyway.

YES, someone loaded Windows 8 onto a 2009 Windows 6.5 phone. NO ONE has any idea if any drivers are working. No one even knows if it can even make a phone call. It does not play into this discussion in any way.
[Acer Iconia A500] blackthund3r:
I guess it depends how compatible the Tegra 2 and Tegra 3 are. If they're similar then windows 8 may support a lot of the HW OOTB, just add bootloader.
[Acer Iconia A500] liu2002:
It is possible but now No！Because here no one started or wants to do. Because more people want their nexus7 not a500. And just little people know more about RT. But first step was made. Old HTC HD2 can run RT. But HD2 is fully known by devs. They have already made a loader for many OS. Howere A500 we just started. The bootloader is the most important thing that we must solve.
[Acer Iconia A500] retrostudd:
a500 win 8 good luck

if someone can get win 8 working on an a500 best of luck. I'm not interested but if it's your bag awesome.
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
Good grief. I do wish people would engage their brains before their mouths.

Windows 8 can NOT run on the A500, and never ever EVER will.

However, there's a teeny tiny chance that maybe, just possibly, someone MIGHT get Windows RT running on it. Windows 8 is not Windows RT.

But don't get your hopes up as that's REALLY unlikely.
[Acer Iconia A500] blackthund3r:
Like..... ever.......

Yes that was necessary.
[Acer Iconia A500] sRDennyCrane:
Let's go through this ONCE AGAIN.

That HD2 you're referring to doesn't even make phone calls. All they did was get it to boot. There are NO hardware drivers. There won't BE hardware drivers.

This will not happen.

If you want a Windows 8 tablet, go buy one.
[Acer Iconia A500] liu2002:
You are totally wrong. Cannot make a call means nothing! We talk about windows 8 rt not wondows phone 8! And HD2 can boot means dev made a driver of the cpu and have a way to skip the uefi. And now the most important is uefi. The driver of tegra2 is included in rt.
[Acer Iconia A500] Skrilax_CZ:
UEFI is not important here at all. You just need to make a bootloader able to boot Windows 8.
[Acer Iconia A500] acerdroid:
Win 8 sucks
[Acer Iconia A500] sRDennyCrane:
Let's try one more time. There are NONE of the required hardware drivers. No wifi radio drivers. No camera drivers. No USB port drivers. No memory card slot drivers. No hdmi port drivers. No memory module drivers. No screen drivers. No GPS drivers. etc, etc, ETC.

CPU support is not the drivers we're discussing.

WISH all you want, this will not happen.
[Acer Iconia A500] liu2002:
You know or you dont know. Why Lumia 900 cant get wp8? No cpu support is the reason. So the support of cpu is first step. That is key whether a500 can boot to rt. Then other things: sensors and screen. Can you make sure rt has not support these?! Maybe you are correct! But now nothing is comfirmed. I will buy a windows tab or even more. I want a500 to run rt because Android is too boring.
[Acer Iconia A500] Tautvaldas:
Yes, a500 hasn't wifi drivers etc. but another windows rt tablet with broadcom chip have it. So why not get driver from it? Sorry for bad English.
[Acer Iconia A500] Aenon:
Some Linux is easy. I've installed Ubuntu 12.04 with LXDE desktop. The only way to use its GUI is by local RDP.

See my picture here
[Acer Iconia A500] gears177:
what is your stand made out of....
[Acer Iconia A500] Diablo67:
Looks like a part of a pizza box.Eat dominoes much,hahaha.