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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] quick_:
Yes! PM sent, thanks man! :):)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Az Biker:
Not only that: but you appreciate where you end up much more by remembering where you started. It's the 'before and after' of rooting :D

Slim + AK Diamond Series = Gyrannosaurus Nex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] leandronb:
i think i understood, but like nephlim said that used -50 i just put this value and these are the values that appeared. and after i put 800 on the smartreflex control. is this ok?

thanks for the answer, i put the -50 value but first i and to make sure that it will not have any problem before accept the changes.

no is the android 4.2 stock kernel, i am using the revolution hd that was the most stable rom i used. thanks for the links i will read all the guide and tr to understand. and about kernel cant i just restore it with franco kernel app? i already made a backup.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] szucsgf:
I don't know about the Franco app, but the stock Android kernel can be found in the first post of this thread. You can just flash that. What I would do to revert is:

1. Reflash rom and gapps

2. Flash stock kernel from first post of this thread.

That way you avoid having to think about wifi drivers or any other additional steps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wh1t3Rose:
All the screen on you see was on 4G. Just got home. I'm amazed. And no I don't do any bump charging. 95dbm on average

Toro | Carbon | AK SKL
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarkar1990:
I am using the zenith keys with zipthemer and am using it with thyrus holo black theme on PA. Rebooted numerous times today. Keys are still applied. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] butikofer08:
Must be something special about PA cuz I'm on same setup but slimbean instead of PA and it resets after reboot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 91franz:
Could someone help me to understand what the IO stats are and what happens if I deactivate it?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarkar1990:
That's a bummer, eh?

I will give the systemui a try again tomorrow. Since BigBrother is going to give us a newer build, I can play with the current setup.

(and keep a nandroid too. :p)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wisefreakz:
Just a teaser... V227 is a BEAST!!!!

Stay tuned folks!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] szucsgf:
Yup.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Monk3y:
What's device ?!

Envoyé avec la ROM Xylon et soutenue par le kernel AK
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DoesntPostAThing:
227 is amazing! Stock settings, no overclocking at all, just HQ volume headphone volume boost.

EDIT: Also scratched my screen slightly, so AK 227 is the perfect thing to cheer me up again :D Combine that with possible Rubik/AOSPA build with JDQ39E and the scratch can be dismissed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] terminal13:
just flashed now. zippy.:good::cyclops:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Monk3y:
Why is just 225 on download ?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chikimonke:
225 is the latest public release, 227 is what the private beta testers are running.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Monk3y:
Not possible to test !? Only devs !?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chikimonke:
Correct, invite only to Project Chicago to be a beta tester. They still put out a new kernel every 3-4 days that is pretty well tested, so even though they are considered "experimental" they are still pretty damn stable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 02ranger:
Yeah, that new AOSPA build has made my day! I'm downloading now and I'm spending the next few hours doing a clean install with SKL 225. :D Is it sad that this is the most exciting plans I've had in a few days? Haha.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Monk3y:
OK ! Thanks for reply, i wait public release !

Envoyé avec la ROM Xylon et soutenue par le kernel AK
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] szucsgf:
Thanks for fielding that question. Just to be clear, it's not actually invite only. Anyone can apply. You can see MBQ's signature for more info.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chikimonke:
I know you guys probably get tired of doing it constantly, figured I'd give you a break :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] B1nny:
So ~2 days ago I got my extended 2000 mAh official Samsung battery for my Galaxy Nexus, and these are the results from the first charge.

- I am running AK kernel v225

- I have Google Now disabled

- I disabled location updating and history in Google Maps

- I am running Cyanogenmod 10.1-20130426-NIGHTLY

- I use Greenify to hibernate the following apps:

Google+

Facebook

Google Search

Google Maps

Baconreader

I'm too lazy to write down my settings here, look at the pictures, for whom who believe in benchmarks there's a benchmark screenshot as well.

(hint: click the image)

Thanks Anarkia1976 for this kernel. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DoesntPostAThing:
Dirty flashed over Rubik v6, and still easily the fastest my phone has ever been. Comparable to the 4.1 days. 4.2.2_r1.2, maybe?

What's you on screen time?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 02ranger:
I decided to go ahead and dirty flash over v5 and it is very fast. Speed used to be my biggest issue with PA, but for a while now PA+AK kernel (either line) is amazingly fast! It only seems to get better, too!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Az Biker:
Ok... settings (not the 4-17 ones in your sig either :D) and kernel version :D

My Gnex might not play well with skl 227 & 1650 :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RoxRedEye:
Rubik 29 was a bit laggy and slow for me. I reverted back to Rubik 24. No lag and speed is back.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] szucsgf:
Basically I just maxed everything out. For testing only, not day to day.

Max cpu 1650

Gpu 512

Multi core power 0

Skl 227

Slim bean 4.2

Everything else same as my signature settings. The Slim + AK combo has in general trounced anything else I've ever used on my phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Az Biker:
Nope... my gnex does NOT like 1650... Oh well... back to the pursuit of a creamy smooth fast (not fastest benchmark) long batt life machine... I am sure this is a device limitation as others HAVE achieved successful use of 1650... No worries... it's all about the journey :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Blackcrx:
Did you disable smart reflex for high frequency? Try upping the MPU voltage?

I'm uniquely running 227 under clocked and runs fine.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Az Biker:
I can run fine UC , just NOT at 1650 or 1520... I've used 384 and 512 gpu. did not disble SR.... Lemme try that

Edit: even with SR disabled, no go...won't run anything higher than 1350...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DoesntPostAThing:
Completely stock clocked, at 1.2GHz CPU and 307MHz GPU my device is SUPER smooth. Seriously. Everything opens fast, no lag, stutters, except for the ones caused by rotating the screen, which I haven't found a pattern for yet. Been running for 5h now, no signs of slowing down. Just default SKL 227 settings except for BLX lowered to 97 and high perf sound turned on with headphone volume boost. Nothing else is changed, using latest AOSPA compiled by Bigbro which merges 4.2.2_r1.2. Seriously, as good as 4.1 for me with the exception of slight stuttering when rotating. But that, doesn't bother me much and is fixed within a few seconds.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 93foxgt:
Mine wont run right with anything over 1350 on this kernel either but would with Cylon 801. Even though i never ran it long at higher frequencies unless to just play around.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] killersloth:
Jellybro and ak 225 man...

I don't even have trickster installed just running it like it came... perfect.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus to all you wonder nobodies!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChazzMatt:
I keep telling everyone who will listen that Slim Bean is fantastico. I've put it on 3 phones so far -- two of the Galaxy Nexus, one Samsung Vibrant.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cmoG530:
I thought I heard someone say that slim bean isn't fully stable as of yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DoesntPostAThing:
Agreed. The only thing I tuned is battery life extended to 97 because I believe it's better for the battery, and high perf sound. Everything else is stock and running perfectly.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Az Biker:
Under normal conditions (not trying to own the benchmark competition) I haven't had ONE issue with Slim and AK... not ONE, not even lag! Great batt life (check screens a few pages back 24hrs / 3 hrs SOT) Because Slim is so... SLIM, Ak's kernels make it fly!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Blackcrx:
Whoever told you that is crazy. Slim has been stable for some time now. Even in the beta releases it was stable.

Slim is smooth and stable with AK
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DoesntPostAThing:
Tried overclocking GPU and CPU... Nothing happened??? It didn't get any more smoother or faster. I'm assuming it's already too smooth stock clocked! Either that or OC doesn't work properly in 227?

Edit: figured out why. Unlike previous kernels, it runs really well on hispeed_freq already. Setting max freq any higher is ignored in daily usage. Same with GPU I'm assuming. For the sake of testing 1.5 GHz, I set it on performance. Slight improvement since its so smooth already. Still, I kept it there so in case I need the higher frequencies, it won't lag. Same with GPU. Also, locking it at 1.5 gives this effect: things wait for half a second, then fly open super fast. On interactive, it takes the same amount of time, but does or smoothly giving a less jerky feel and smoother performance in general. When locked to max freq it gave me the jerky feel of the HTC One launching some apps. Which is probably why apple gives you animations on the iPhone. Sometimes, faster isn't better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bsmitty83:
Only way your gonna see a benefit is running a graphically intensive game or the like , your system doesn't need 1.5 GHz of processing power to scroll home screens , even if your locked at that frequency

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DoesntPostAThing:
Agreed. I want to find a way where it mostly stays at 1GHz because that's all it really needs for swiping through screens, but when I launch an app or something it jumps to 1.5 briefly and then goes back down again. Redditing also only requires 350mhz, homescreens between 350 and 1ghz, launching chrome with 1.5 is blazing fast, etc. I'll be experimenting with other governors later. Also, after using 1.5, 1.2 feels slow when launching stuff xD

Fun fact though: The TI OMAP 4460 was designed to be clocked at 1.5. So, doing that is not overclocking, but de-underclocking. Same with GPU at 384 MHz. So right now I'm running what TI intended this chip to be run at, and it's great.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Az Biker:
UV AK skl 227 vs. default AK skl 227

Here are some comparisons I ran using Benchmark & Tuning Free: (yes I realize that benchmark testing doesn't mean anything for real world use, but it's FUN DAMNIT :D

(all performed 1 minute after reboot / 2 additional times, 15 seconds after previous test / score is best of three runs) I used 1350 because my Gnex doesn't play well with 1520/1650...

SETTINGS: Slim / AK skl 227

westwood

512

row

1350

Interactive hi-freq 920

Smart Reflex ALL 800 (-30)

MPU Voltages ALL -25

WiFi: ON

CAB: ON

MPS: 0

High Perf Sound: ON

Headphone:1

TouchWake: OFF

Fsync: ON

GPU Gov: Ondemand

GPU OC: 384

Zram: OFF

8968

Changes:

Smart Reflex: ALL default (830)

MPU : ALL default

9016

Changes:

Cubic/Sio

SR: ALL default

MPU: ALL default

8922

Changes:

Cubic

8863

Changes:

Hyper

8583

Changes:

Cubic

Hyper

8399
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Efrenjr15:
New liquid nightly paired with AK is epic!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Blackcrx:
Moral of the story... Leave everything default. Haha.

Any chance you can try deadline? I always find deadline the smoothest
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soundigy:
You're totally right.

These are optimal CPU/GPU settings.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Monk3y:
I see your message since yesterday and i look forward of test v227 :)

Envoyé avec la ROM Xylon et soutenue par le kernel AK
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarkar1990:
The v225 does not have 1.5 right?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soundigy:
No.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Godra:
Next update will have it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cmoG530:
You two have now sparked my curiosity. *eyebrow raise*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarkar1990:
Awesome!! :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mono28aug:
Someone please give me the link for codex rom.. I have looked all over the forums but could not find codex rom
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jaydoo:
Pls, what is MPU -25 ?

uf, sorry, i know :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] irizwan:
isn't Google your friend? :P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Doomhamma:
Try harder!

Edit : Search for droid - hive on google, or codex rom ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] irizwan:
it requires that you sign up before download and I thought that was against the rules that's why I didn't post *doh
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Doomhamma:
You'r right, I forgot ... Could you edit your post? :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mono28aug:
CODEX ROM

GOT IT :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] billouetaudrey:
MPU -25mv ...

With Trickster...

Envoyé depuis mon Transformer avec Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] terminal13:
Is that across the board?

AK/Codexed Beast
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] frenchy714:
Yes. If u -25 mV for MPU, it'll -25 across all MPU freq steps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] happymonk:
CodeX ROM in action.

CodeX build 27/4 with AK v255

Westwood

1408

Row

Interactive high frequency 1060

Smart Reflex all at 700 (-130)

WiFi off

Cab off

MPS 0

High performance sound off

Headphone boost 0

Touch wake off

Dynamic Fsync on

GPU governor on demand

GPU OC 307

Zram off

Mpu -50mv

9019
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dizzy1k:
I heard just good things about Codex ROM but i really dont know which is the topic.

Btw AK kernel rullz
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarkar1990:
Are you looking for the CODEX rom? If so then its on droid-hive under droidth3ory's roms.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dizzy1k:
so isn't a xda thread?:eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarkar1990:
No. its on droid-hive.

http://droid-hive.com/index.php?/topic/1734-rom-codex-official-aosp-422-mako-toro-maguro/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Az Biker:
Here ya go :D

Slim + AK Diamond Series = Gyrannosaurus Nex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nickcct:
May i know what theme are u using? Looks so nice :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Az Biker:
Built into Slim Bean settings; 'The Real Dark Slim'... I also have 'Cobalt' theme installed, but not sure how much each setting covers...

Slim + AK Diamond Series = Gyrannosaurus Nex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wdustin1:
OK since yesterday I have been getting some pretty bad battery drain. When I go to check my battery usage it says phone idle is the biggest culprit right now at 40% same way it was yesterday. Last night I went back to v207 because I know I was getting good battery life with that one but its the same thing. Only thing I change is min 180 and max 550 screen off. Everything else is stock ak.

I have better battery stats but I really don't know what I am looking at. I am running codex ROM but I have been for a week now and this problem only started yesterday. Anybody got any clue about phone idle being so high?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Az Biker:
Not sure if this will help your situation, but it fixed mine... Download GetRIL from play, run it, see if your radios match your model, install reco radios if not... Report your results...

Slim + AK Diamond Series = Gyrannosaurus Nex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] szucsgf:
Can you post some screenshots of your BetterBattery Stats "Other", "Kernel Wakelock" and "Partial Wakelock" information? Also you might want to try this app alongside BBS:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...MsImNvbS51enVtYXBwcy53YWtlbG9ja2RldGVjdG9yIl0.

The two complement each other well I find.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DoesntPostAThing:
Another thing to speed up your device could be to lower hispeed_freq since then it is likely to skip over it and jump to max freq. I noticed that most home scrolling is done on 700, so I set it at that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Khizar:
most of that is themed by cobalt, the dark toogle in roms doenst really theme much, it just makes apps inerted from my experience

use betterbattery stats to chekc for rogue apps/wakelocks and post the screenshots here if you dont understand
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Az Biker:
I've got nothing but great things to say about the 'Cobalt' theme. That look mixed with Atom/Carbon/Slim and AK's incredible kernels: PERFECTION!

Slim + AK Diamond Series = Gyrannosaurus Nex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chrissurra:
After all the talk of SlimBean I tried it after using Atom for so long. Wow.this.is.fast with AK225 I will not be switching for a while. Undervolted and underclocked and its still flying.

Kudos to AK for his magic.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soundigy:
interactive vs hyper battery

Yap, with Slim Bean I've absolutely never experienced any slowdowns or lag!

**BTW +-30h ago I posted my kernel settings and screenshots of my battery stats using

interactive governor

, later tonight when my battery cycle ends, I will post screens with same settings, just

hyper governor

, so we can compare.

-
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Az Biker:
Atom+AK was my go to combo... Then I tried Carbon, then Slim... Any of these with an AK kernel is going to be hard to top! Which rom is my fav: too close to call. Which kernel is my fav: ANYTHING Stefano signs his name to :D

Slim + AK Diamond Series = Gyrannosaurus Nex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ReMuSeR:
Try codex even better lol

Sent from Nexus Prime using Ultimate CodeX and AK Kernel
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nhugh406:
Agreed! CodeX + SKL = diesel!

Fast, buttery smooth, support customizable, and easy on your battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cubsfan187:
Droid Concepts (at Droid-Hive in the GNex section) is another nice rom. Runs great with AK's kernel. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ak:
I'm sorry guys but I'm busy with new work .... But stay tuned! Maybe next weeks a new kernel version will :Dborn.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] luisqcosta:
I think we are glad to know you also have a life outside xda :D

Keep up the good work!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lusca:
The current version works flawless. Only thing i would like to see is OC to 1.5 GHz .

Keep up the good work !!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Az Biker:
Seriously Stefano... The LAST person who should be apologizing for anything is YOU! Let me remind you that YOU are doing us the favor of creating kernels that keeps our aging Gnex in the running with the latest-greatest devices... Take all the time you need... We WILL be here, waiting :D

Slim + AK Diamond Series = Gyrannosaurus Nex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cubsfan187:
Real life, work and family come first Stefano. We all understand that. Like AZ_Biker said, we will be here waiting for whatever you come up with next!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ak:
Thanks to all the ak team and all guys that share "knowledge" on this thread ... Without receive a single penny .... This is fantastic
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wisefreakz:
Take your time boss!!

Good luck!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Az Biker:
Being a part of PC, the things I've learned while testing, or reading corrective posts of others are more than enough 'payment' for me :D

You devs on the other hand SHOULD be getting paid! (attention AK kernel lovers/users :D)

Slim + AK Diamond Series = Gyrannosaurus Nex

---------- Post added at 10:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:37 AM ----------

I just did a comparison of skl 227 with default settings and with custom settings (like hyper)... I think you'll find hyper falls short of interactive. Only diff could be hyper might shine at 1520/1650 which I didn't test since they don't play well with my Gnex.... I'm looking forward to your results (see 'Benchmark' link under my sig for my results)

Slim + AK Diamond Series = Gyrannosaurus Nex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] leftis69:
Exactly how i feel. The knowledge i earn here is priceless :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] branedamig:
PIE? A legit version too, not some knock-off like slimPIE.

Sent from my ATOMic Gnex with AK Kernel on Tap2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jjhiza:
That's not really fair. Codex clearly uses the PA pie, whereas Slim uses a variation of the one from CM. They look different, sure, but that doesn't make Slim's features a "knockoff". Krarvind and Nebucatnetzer are great developers, who put a lot of effort into their end product.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wh1t3Rose:
Exactly Jhiza! I agree. Just because you like one PIE over the other doesn't mean Neb didn't put any effort into his project. Give it time. He very clearly States that it's still in beta. At least he's creative and is coming up with his own version.

Toro | Carbon | AK SKL
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MBQ_:
Theyre also the masterminds behind the dark switch you see in some ROMs (enables inverted theme without a reboot, or systemUI reboot)

---------- Post added at 11:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:13 AM ----------

And nowadays, it is HARD to be original. Feels like it has all been done before. :|
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wh1t3Rose:
Right. So Neb makes up done really neat things. He deserves credit

Toro | Carbon | AK SKL
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aosp:
http://goo.gl/OAAPK

Sent from my Vanir-ize Galaxy Nexus using a AK
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jjhiza:
Agreed on both counts. Trying to be original is incredibly difficult, given the pace of Android development. Even more so if - like me - you're trying to build a ROM without knowing java. The dark theme toggle is (IMO) just as big a contribution as theme Chooser was... Gotta give respect for that. :thumbup:

[MENTION=2838735]aosp[/MENTION]..... :eek::eek::what::thumbup:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vrehenriqu:
Check this out:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=40894135

:eek::eek::eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 93foxgt:
How's the battery life?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vrehenriqu:
I haven't tested yet...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarkar1990:
Since this is thread on XDA with discussion about codex, I am going a little OT and asking:

"What is Burner UI?"

Can someone answer please?

:)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] branedamig:
Knock-off was a poor choice of words. Your statement of the use of PA PIE versus customized PIE is much better and fair.

And thank you for answering my question! Much appreciated!

Sent from my ATOMic Gnex with AK Kernel on Tap2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cubsfan187:
It's a toggle to make the UI blacked out and invert things.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dizzy1k:
I'm on Slimbean right now but soon will apear 5.0 soo i'll give a try on Codex cuz i heard so much good things about that beast.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chikimonke:
Since people are talking about their setups and I haven't seen a whole lot of love for AOKP and it's variants (AK47 and PUB) I figured I'd throw my $0.02 in. I'm currently running the latest PUB build from bigxie here on XDA and paired with 225, I get beastly performance and all the customization you could shake a stick at. The new Ribbon feature is a welcome alternative to PIE, though I haven't personally warmed to it yet. I still use LMT and find it very responsive and suits my needs perfectly. That said, SteveSpear is constantly adding to the Ribbon options, so I'll be checking back each new release.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marcoperro74:
I'm very glad to read that you are busy with a new work... In this period is very hard find out work in Italy... Then... Take all the time you need for your real life... We are very happy if your real life is ok! Grazie Stefano ;)

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus con Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jjhiza:
Personally, I've never been too keen on the hardcoded PIE variants. Like you, if I feel the need to use a full screen setup, I go with LMT. It's far more customizable than either the CM or PA options (from hex code to setting custom targets), and it's got spectacular developer support.

This is just my opinion, but the inclusion of PIE as a baked in feature in nearly every ROM (as well as other hardcoded options), has lessened the appreciation for the hard work some of these app developers are doing. Apps like LMT, Dash Clock and Full Screen Toggle do the exact same thing that their coded counterparts do, and sometimes they are actually better, but they get far less attention.

I'm all for supporting developers - both app and ROM devs - but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when every ROM dev starts baking a PIE into their builds, instead of pointing users to a great, customizable alternative, like LMT.

Sorry for the lengthy OT, but your mention of LMT just clicked with me. :D