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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
AT&T and Rogers call it the One X, even though its the Snapdragon version. That is the source of the name confusion, and why carrier names had to be used in the first place. Changing the forum name to "XL" would do as much harm as good.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] woodstok:
Thanks for your replies guys,

i guess I'll have to do a bit more research.

could you please tell me what the differences are between the international version and the us version because it was my understanding that the only difference is one of the radio frequency bands.

I'd like to get to the bottom of this because I will want to flash it at some point and I want to be sure of my facts.

thanks for your help

Paul.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] LandN1ght:
Simple international has quad core while we have dual core.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Deleted member 3452239:
And if you flash an international ROM on the One XL. consider yourself SOL.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] woodstok:
No sorry guys but the international version has the same dual core snapdragon processor as yours
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeartFan40:
Please keep all question/help related threads on the Q&A section. Thank you.

Thread Moved.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] red.on.fire:
Honestly, I agree with changing it. It is known as the One XL in at least Singapore, HK, Australia, Germany, and anywhere else that is available. It is only called the One X in the US and Canada. It's downright confusing to people who aren't knowledgeable about internal hardware, and I hate that HTC (or more likely the US carriers) pulled this trick. I think it is less confusing for US and CA to just ignore what the carriers name it and call it the One XL than it is for the rest of the world to call the One XL the One X(with snapdragon).

By all means mention AT&T, Rogers One X in naming of this forum but I think it should be named ONE XL primarily.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] specter491:
The US and Canada versions are not the only ones with the s4 version. If your phone supports LTE, it is the S4 version because the tegra chip can not support LTE. If so, these are the right forums for you
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] l3enjamin:
Better to be "One XL (AT&T, Rogers HTC One X)"
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] twistedddx:
This little chestnut keeps coming up and some monkeys in North America keep thinking the One XL has multiple versions internationally (Tegra 3 versus s4), which it doesn't.

The One XL is the S4, there would be no confusion or harm or anything by renaming this forum to One XL.

People do get confused with the name One X but not with One XL.

UK, France, Germany, Singapore, Australia, Hong Kong all have One XL as well as One X. The One XL(S4) is sold as the One XL and the One X's(Tegra 3) are sold as One X's.

There is the One X forum(Tegra 3) and the One XL forum(S4). Not so hard, but some people really want it to be hard.

It is annoying that mods leave the name as the current very confusing name.

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It happens when North Americans end up in the One X forum for Tegra 3. Or because One XL users can't find this forum because of its awful name.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] woodstok:
Thanks guys these comments are very useful and red I couldn't have put it better myself :)

I remember when I first came across theses forums I had what I thought was a "T-Mobile MDA-Vario" it turned out what I actually had was an "HTC Wizard" and while it was called all sorts of things all over the world, on these forums it was simply called what it was, the HTC Wizard.

with any luck the moderators will read this thread and agree that while they are doing their best to stop any misunderstanding's they are actually fostering more.

Thanks

Paul...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeartFan40:
If we change the forum name to just "One XL", that will cause a lot of confusion for the other members.This forum was named for a reason. Part of that reason, was people were flashing ROM's from the "Quad-Core One X" forum and bricking their phones. The distinction between the quad-core and dual core versions is crucial. Changing the name now would only confuse people, and cause them to possibly brick their phone.

With that said, you can always submit a request on this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=276306.

It never hurts to ask. ;)

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] twistedddx:
The current name is only beneficial to North American One X users but is at the loss of every other One XL user in the world.

Eg UK, France, Singapore, Germany, Australia, Hong Kong and future markets.

So those markets they have no clear way to know what forum they belong to and will flash the wrong ROM's.

A generic One XL would not cause any confusion, and the AT&T , Rogers One X name could stay somewhere in the title.

Everyone is complaining that while Telstra One XL is in the title none of the other regions are.

Why does helping one country come at the expense of all other countries?

North America is the only region that has a confused name and because of that XDA has decided to extend that problem to every country with no clear reason why, well done XDA.

What is wrong with the name:

HTC One XL + AT&T, Rogers One X

It's inclusive of all users and is much clearer than the current title.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] woodstok:
Thanks Pearl.

I will do exactly that :)

Paul.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeartFan40:
XDA doesn't deliberately make decisions as a way to "stick it to the other countries". While we want our userbase to be happy, we also find ourselves reminding people that XDA is a site for development, which requires somewhat of a learning curve to utilize it. Without sounding like a d*ck, if someone can't figure out the difference between the International and American versions of the One X, they probably shouldn't be messing with their phone in the first place. :rolleyes:

I can assure you that 99.9999% of every problem someone encounters on XDA, is directly related to lack of research. If people took a few minutes to read, they would be able to distinguish the difference between the two phones. It's not like we encrypted the titles to confuse people. I don't appreciate your comment "Good job XDA". We are not here to cater to every whim, or lost puppy. At some point, people need to be willing to help themselves, before criticizing the work of another. :banghead:

While we encourage members to be courteous and helpful, we also discourage spoon feeding and hand holding. When someone screws up their device, because they couldn't be bothered to spend a few hours doing research, guess who they turn to?

BTW, XDA is located in North America, so our site will cater more towards this area. Which is also why we expect all of our members to speak the English language, regardless of their location. ;)

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] twistedddx:
The difference is simple. They either own a One X or a One XL.

No one is confusing their One X and One XL, but are finding XDA's naming confusing.

The only thing people cant figure out is why this forum cant just say that it relates to all HTC One XL's not just Telstra's.

AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

versus

AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, HTC One XL

It is really that simple.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] fitchpuckman:
I understand where you are coming from, and also respect the position of the Mods. This forms has already changed names throughout time and seems to have always served as a means of distinguishing the phones for the sake of ROMs. I completely agree with the Mods that if anyone takes merely seconds to do a search/research, they will know exactly what forum they are in. Also, this is NA-based and started as an NA forum for the sake of the LTE-enabled S4 phone (while others started for the sake of Tegra-equipped "Int'l" versions).

I am not a developer, nor do I claim to relate to these phones in the way that developers do, and generally, I try to keep my mouth shut around these boards with relation to these types of issues. But from the standpoint of someone who is more an 'outsider' to the community, I think that it's exceptionally clear which phones this forum panders to and which ones it does not. Perhaps nomenclature would be change if it were started over from scratch and all of the currently-available versions of this phone were available from the get-go, but such is the case with many things in life. I think that this far into the game, changing it is unnecessarily tedious and would induce more confusion than it solves. Just my $0.02.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
Because at least anecdotally, it seems that the huge majority of the users here are in North America, and in the US on AT&T, specifically. That's just from my experience here from day to day use, and I have no numeric data to back that up. But it really does seem the case.

Not to marginalize other carriers, regions etc. But if you can't make everyone happy, you at least have to go with the majority. Confusing the majority of people looking for this subforum simply doesn't make any sense.

Its just my opinion, and its not the perfect answer by any means. I can understand the arguments for either side. But its still the better answer IMO.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeartFan40:
I'll have to disagree with you there, it's not that simple. Changing the name at this point wouldn't work. Changing the name now, to save a small amount of people the confusion, when they could just do the research in the first place, would only exacerbate that problem. At some point, people need to read, read, read. I'm not discouraging anybody from submitting a request for a name change, I'm just listing the pro's and con's from a staff member's point of view. Us Moderators are the backbone of these forums, and we work hard to maintain them. I take exception when a member takes the approach that XDA is the problem. The fact is, a little bit of research will clarify any confusion as to which device they own, and which forum they should go to. When it comes to utilizing XDA, every member should take the time to do whatever research is necessary, before doing anything. To demonstrate this point, I move on average, about 20 miss posted threads every week. Had they read the rules and the stickies, they would have known where to post their thread. I respect your opinion, but disagree with it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] woodstok:
Hi pearl,

Thanks for your advice but I can assure you that I have an HTC one XL ... It has a snapdragon dual core processor .. I have a fair bit of experience using and flashing HTC phones having had various HTC phones since 2006 which incedentaly was the same year I joined these forums, and although I choose not to contribute much I am perfectly comfortable with the concepts of custom roms and root access. I suggest you take another look at your fleeting glance at googling the name HTC ONE XL I know what phone I have and I will have no need to come looking in your direction to fix anything. And I'd apreciate it if you didn't take my previous politeness for youth inexperience or stupidity

Thanks

Paul...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] twistedddx:
That is incorrect given the thread context.

He posted in the OP that he is looking to buy a HTC One XL in UK. The XL wherever you purchase it from in the international world is a dual core S4. This is the correct forum.

woodstok, words to the wise, due to naming confusion a pseudo name "International One X" is used for the One X's from around the world which have the Tegra 3(all regions excluding North America). It's probably best not to refer to your One XL as an "International" anything as people will just assume you meant a Tegra 3 One X.

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The International One X forum is much bigger than this one and the phone is not even sold in North America.

It appears the majority is "international" not North American.

-it is claimed people are lost and confused so that current name was required to prevent wrong flashing.

I point out that the current name actually is causing mass confusion itself which is countering benefit

-it is claimed changing the title would undo what the name currently does

all my suggestions include leaving AT&T, Rogers One X in the title

-It is claimed the larger XDA userbase is in North America

Which does not line up with the international One X forum being much larger. Perhaps correctly catching One XL users would increase this forum to the size of the International One X.

-It is claimed that the title should be confusing to make people research what phone they have

The user correctly knows that they own a HTC One XL, which appears there is no XDA forum for.

This has been done to death. Every other week we get a thread asking to change the name, I'll leave it to those users to argue with the brick wall.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] scrappy1959:
Not to sound stupid but there is a forum simply named HTC One X that has all the specs right at the top of the page and says "Tegra" in the specs. Isn't that one the international version? Correct me if I'm wrong. But, instead of renaming this forum One XL wouldn't it be easier just putting "international" next to the other forum. Now if you go to www.htc.com/uk there you will see the other forum is the correct forum for the One XL only if you have 1.5 GHz, quad core processor (which is the Tegra) & only runs HSPA/WCDMA network (not 4G LTE) as this forum runs a 1.5GHz, dual core processor & runs the HSPA & 4G LTE network, There for the name AT&T, Rogers HTC One X. Now was that hard...READ, READ, READ
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] area51avenger:
As someone who almost bricked their phone, but clued in before too late, it would be helpful if the title of the forum also included Telus
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeartFan40:
I don't recall trying to tell you which phone you own, or that you had one particular version. :confused: I responded to your post about the international One X not having a quad core cpu, which it does. When someone refers to the international version, people think of the quad core. Perhaps a simple misunderstanding. I wasn't questioning your knowledge either. How did you get all that from my reply? Take it easy bro, we're all here sharing a common interest. ;) BTW, you and I both joined in 2006. I remember when XDA was soley about WinMo development. :thumbup:

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeartFan40:
The difference is the radio, and the CPU, which is why we have two separate forums. People were, (still are, in some cases) flashing international ROMS on their dual core versions, bricking their devices. People who have the quad core version, should be in the "One X" forums, and those with the dual, should be in the AT&T/Rogers forum. ;)

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] woodstok:
just re'read all the posts ... thanks very much guys for all your input ...

I've realized that we all coming at it from opposite ends, literally.

international means something completely different to me that it does to you guys, and the old saying "separated by a common language" comes to mind lol.

I now know I'm in the right forum so I'm gonna let this one slide.

Cheers

Paul.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Imagitom:
Just one clue for this very interesting thread...

Why "HTC One XL" doesn't appear in the "Find your device" search box ?

It would be very helpfull in fact...:silly:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] CheesyNutz:
LoL threads still going on
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snaai8:
Okay so what I'm trying to do is to create a flipcover from a normal cover.

Why would I want to do this? I want to have a custom backcover and paint the screen cover itself and you can't order a custom made flipcover.

So now I wanted to ask if someone has already tried to create something like this? Or maybe has some tips regarding getting the leather to stick to the batterycover itself.
[HTC One X] htckt:
Hi all,

I noticed that whenever I take a picture and then open it up in the gallery, the colours are all different than the actual colours that appear on the screen when you are in the Stock camera. So I tried pressing the screen capture button and comparing the same picture, Stock VS Screen capture.

The results where great imo, screen capture has a better representation of colour and better contrast, also the lighting and brightness come out more accurately.

I also noticed that even without auto enhance on (A feature that appeared in a modded camera app recently) the colours and brightness are still saved incorrectly.

Now I am using the home button with a Capture Screen function in Viper X with the capacitive button set to the shortest delay.

The good:

Better colours, better contrast, better lighting.

Saves in .png format.

Smaller size

The bad:

Only 710*1280 pictures with a size of around 1mb

Delay between shots until the .png file is saved.

No auto-rotation of pictures taken in landcscape view.

Lower quality images - Compression discoloration.

I have attached some pictures with comparisons so you can see the difference.

I used the UiMod camera I posted recently with the lyapota mod: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1875022

All the best
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
imo the standard pictures look better
[HTC One X] htckt:
The pictures have been resized so there is some quality loss there too..

Try it on your phone if you have a mod that allows you to take screenshots.

The quality is not that good, but I think the colours look better.

All the best
[HTC One X] Wilks3y:
I think the skull looks alot better on screen capture, other two I'd say camera wins.

But I think the camera on the HOX is a total let down, considering when they were advertising they jumped out of a bloody plane with it, if we did that it would be blurry as hell, false advertisement bloody hell ! :D
[HTC One X] hamdir:
unless you use burst-shooting

the thing is when you are using burst, at least one of them will look sharp

try it with a fast moving animal, guaranteed you will get one good one
[HTC One X] htckt:
I think the camera is a let down too, I was so excited when I first bought it but then after a while everything started seeming strange, colours, contrast, brightness, the saturation was way too much also. Pictures look pretty good with the lyapota mod though :- )

all the best
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
the camera is great for fast moving objects, took a few pics of my nephew running around the other day, every single pic was focused and not blurry.

i have noticed that the hq camera mod slows it down, unless you reduce the quality a bit.
[HTC One X] nikosssb:
Just bumped into this thread and i have to agree with the OP, i just noticed that 2 days ago and I was trying to find a solution. When I take a picture it looks great during the review time ( 3-5 seconds) but then when I open it in the gallery it seems it loses its quality. It's driving me crazy!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] d_ave:
Hello,

I've been using the Xperia S for about a week now and i immediately noticed the shortened battery life - especially compared to the 30-70hrs that I've been reading in some threads. I've flashed it to 6.1.A.2.45 and wiped everything and I'm facing the same problem. for 7 hours of work today i have 37 mins of talking over 2G, 1.3 h screen on at 40% and the battery is already at 45%. Android system is showing 1.13h in the Keep awake field and i also noticed on the graph that something is constantly awaking the phone.

If i disable the data connection and turn off sync i get amazing results - the battery drops about 3% for 6-7 hr during the night. I'm using exchange services to check my corporate email and when i changed it from Push to 1hr checking the battery drain got a little bit less offensive, but still this is causing a lot of trouble. I've installed GSam Battery Monitor and i noticed, that Android system is responsible for the biggest % of battery drain. I also noticed that the magnetic field sensor seams to be on all the time - i haven't installed any compass apps, should it be working all the time?

Can you please suggest how to deal with that problem? I knew that the Xperia is lacking in battery, but didn't know it's draining that fast and cannot last even a day.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ben36:
I'm on the same firmware but with xsspeed kernel V6 set down to 84mhz and bloatware apps removed and my battery is brilliant!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] d_ave:
Where can i find that kernel? Also can you please suggest which apps is better to be removed?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sbk_hbk:
Even i wanted to hear from you.. Which apps are bloatware apps? (Im also with 6.1.A.2.45 and my battery sucks!)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ben36:
Kernel is in the development section but you need to unlock your bootloader. My battery is normally around 30% by bed time and I use it quite a lot during the day and I'm normally up for work around 6am!

There's lists somewhere around the forum of unnecessary apps :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kien:
Just delete everything you don't need. Install gsam battery monitor to see which apps are taking up power and keeping the phone awake.

I don't see the point of buying the phone and then underclocking it, a bit like buying a supercar and limiting it to 29mph, lol. There's no way to compare battery life with other people as usage will be different, I'm a low/medium user and get about 30 hours, those who say they get days out of one charge probably never use the phone and switch it off at night.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] -Harsh-:
I Too have the same firmware with locked bootloader and my battery is really good!

Check out the question answer thread where some had asked for a list that can be frozen and I had given them a list..

Also that add the tweaks to build.prop that I have written in the general section!

It will improve beyond doubt :)

Use the thank button, it's there for a reason :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ben36:
Oh no, I mean minimum is 84mhz. My maximum is 1.7 :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sbk_hbk:
Mate could you repost the list in this thread that can be frozen? I had searched in the forum (Q&A section); but not able to find it :( as there are too many questions asked and difficult to find.. :(

Even am facing battery drain alot with this update. :(

Please help me!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] -Harsh-:
Sorry I can't coz I am replying from my phone.. Just go to qns and answer and search 1. best trick to stop running Facebook all the time and 2. delete bloatware on Xperia S... :D

Use the thank button, it's there for a reason :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
try the XSX kernel.. shame that theres no interactiveX governor but you could set it to interactive and add a profile for screen off at the lowest frequency.