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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
Whaddya mean?

I used to get Blazingly Fast 350Kbps 3G speeds in NYC as recently as 2 weeks ago :(

I even got less than 200Kbps a few times.......

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Sprintlobotomization at it's Best!

I used to be a Sprintlobotomizee, so I should know.

Trying to believe in the Unbelievable, and all that Malarchy ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] neopolotin75:
I stay positive....when my 3g...eerrr....1x....errrr....2 cans with a string pulls 56k I just tell myself it will get better. At least the LTE rollout will go better than the WiMAX (we never got that in Indy officially in 2years)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
Yes, it will get better.

It.... Will..... Get....... Better.......

Sprint's track record should help keep the faith......

It can't get any worse.......

Or could it??

Nah.....??
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] neopolotin75:
Ha ha
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] muppetman462:
Hmmm....really, Indiana? What about the larger markets? It would be nice if I could get a decent signal in my house without using an Airwave. Pretty sad that I get dropped calls driving to work in a major city (in Wisconsin). Come on Sprint.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
Coming soon ;)

http://investing.businessweek.com/r...er||ACQUIREMEDIA||bridgesymbol||US;S&ticker=S

In the "Coming Months"

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Take the plunge, and leave....

I did, and couldn't be happier.

If enough customers left Sprint, sprint would stop laughing.

Right now, many customers are complaining, but are remaining with Sprint for various reasons, one of them being the $350 ETF.

Lucky, or rather good planning on Sprint's part.

If they kept the ETF @ $200, there would have been a Mass Exodus!

They saw the writing on the wall, and raised the ETF at the right time.

Sometimes the only way to show The Man, is Hitting them Hard in their Pockets. A few leaving don't matter, But many leaving, will.

Sprint's been a Company of Hot Wind for a Long Time.

They treated their customers like Pavlov's Dogs.

We can't give out Customers competitive services, But we'll charge them cheaper prices, and throw in Unlimited Data, and most customers will put up with out crappy services.

This is why when sprint 'Eventually,' gets their LTE off the ground, (IF they ever get LTE off the ground) and to the Masses, Unlimited data will go Bye - Bye, and then Sprint will achieve true Parity with the other Carriers, because after 2+ Years, sprint will finally be offering competitive services, whereas the have not been able to do so for a couple of Years now.....

They've slowly taken away from their Customers most of the perks that the other carriers didn't offer.

The only thing remaining is Unlimited data for the $10 Monthly Surcharge, which is $120 annually,

Plus Taxes & Surcharges.

But that will Also Dissappear....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] neopolotin75:
I do believe Dan Hess or whatever his name mentioned that they will evaluate their plan once LTE is available nationwide......in other words sprint will fall inline with Verizon and At&t. I love my EVO and I couldn't imagine having another phone and with these awesome devs we have it makes sprints shoddy network more tolerable. I wonder where we would be service wise if they went with LTE 1st instead of WiMAX.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
Yes, and the Removal of Unlimited Data will be the Thanks given to the Customers that decided, or were basically forced to stay with Sprint during their years of growing pains, and crap decision making.

But the sad part is that Sprint's customers are looking forward with great anticipation, the Birth of LTE on sprint, while the other carriers LTE or equivalent Network has been up and running for quite sometime.

And that is where Sprint has truly achieved their Accolades, being able to bs its customers into staying with a network that has given a majority of its customers sub par services.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Mac_Gyver:
Yeah, I gotta say that the 4G WiMAX and LTE have been disappointing in Boston. While WiMAX was in a lot of major urban areas, the battery life with 4G was really bad. Now, since Boston is not officially rolled out, the spotty LTE is super-fast when you have it but fades really quick as you turn a corner in the city.

My major beef with the whole 4G craze on all the carriers is that, once again, networks are not compatible. So Sprint does not roam on Verizon or ATT. The chipsets are capable of doing it but there seems to be no desire between the carriers to share their pools. At least that's my understanding.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
I hear ya.

Something that I really have an issue with, is that there are Only 4 major carriers in the USA. And they basically do business the same way regarding their services, as the Congressional Hearings brought to the Public s attention, and held the carriers to the Fire.

Really just a Side Show, as I don't know if much has changed. Price fixing, and all that good stuff.

One of the reasons I was not with Verizon, until recently.

But with no services from sprint, for which I was paying over $100 per month for, I had no choice but to change carriers. Not being able to complete calls, personal or business, slow srse data, which I knew I would have but even that was settling for subpar services.

But not being able to complete a phone call for over 2 months was completely Unacceptable.

Multiple phone calls to Sprint.

3 replacement S3s.

Hours and Hours and Hours wasted on the phone with Sprint, traveling to the sprint store.

Finally, at the 2 month period, I just had it with the bs running around and excuses given to me by sprint, who was probably figuring if they stall long enough, the network will get better, and the I will have service.

Well that wasn't the case, and after 2 months of some of the most Horrendous service I've Ever received, I told sprint that I can no longer continue to stay with their network, and that I'd like them to waive the ETF.

Well, I was denied that request, and eventually I asked the account crap services rep what he would do if he had all the issues I was having, he said he'd leave also.

Which I did.

The point is that when sprint is eventually pushed to the wall because their customer is not getting services, they'll just say good riddance, and don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.

Don't fall for the:

Well send engineers to check the towers.

I'm so very sorry you're having these issues.

It's your device.

Go to the sprint store to check it out.

It's not the towers.

Oh yes, there are tower outages in your area.

Do you live near a body of water, because that causes issues you're describing, even though we don't know what the reason is.

Our records show that you're not having dropped calls.

Blah, blah, blah, blah until you just want to puke all over these customer crap service reps, and give back the bs that they've been slinging...

.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] muppetman462:
You know, I really wish Sprint would just say what area is getting what service by this time, instead of just going along saying....we are working on our network. US Cellular announced LTE in my area before it was live, it was plastered all over the place saying 4G LTE is coming....and when it was here, then they started selling 4g units, not sell 4g units, then get the network running. Frustrating, because I love my Evo 4g LTE, I really do...but not having the best service really blows. Part of me, and it's getting to be more and more everyday is thinking about going the pre-paid route and ordering a Nexus phone out right, and then get the SIM card and not worry about my contract.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
Only thing is if you announce the entire schedule then your competitors know and then when something slips in the schedule and causes even a 1 day delay then customers would throw a fit.

Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
I think sprint customers aren't gun shy at this point regarding the sprint baloney that they have been throwing around for years about their Promised 4G data speeds since the good ole:

"Wimax will be coming to your market very soon."

We apologize for the delay, but you will soon be able to take advantage of the fast data speeds shortly. Thank you for choosing Sprint."

If not already, you Surely will be hearing this Mantra again :(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] swaze:
Doesn't matter what they announce. There will always be people who have no idea what it takes to roll out a network complaining, *****ing and crying about why there area isn't first or why there are bugs initially or whatever issue there is. People are always thinking they are entitled and owed something. Guess what? Did Verizon or at&t roll out their network overnight? Then why expect anything different from sprint.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
Yes, let Sprint's Customers Rejoice and Revel in the fact that LTE will "Soon" be ?available? to the Masses by the End of 2014, Years after everyone else has had LTE or it's equivalent.

Better Late than Never I guess??
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Ascertion:
You act as if sprint has virtually no network for anyone. I know you were unsatisfied with sprint and I can respect your opinion of them, but continuously bashing sprint isn't going to help anyone. Verizon is good, but they're not the god of all networks, either. They are expensive and limited.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] psabo05:
What a surprise, no
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Okay, first of all WiMAX battery stunk bc it was controlled by a separate chip and not near as efficient as the new SoC's on top of other things...

Now for the compatible LTE roaming b/w carriers.... I've never once seen the reason for the big fuss about this at all... For one if you were able too you'd likely get the boot from sprint for excessive roaming bc of the increased speeds... Now the main issue I have with the roaming complaints with LTE is why do you need it?... If you need to be able to use LTE on VZs network bc you roam a lot out of sprints coverage, then logic says why not switch over to who your roaming on most of the time and leave sprint. The amount of time you spend roaming should be so small that its insignificant, and if its not, then you should honestly look at other carrier options really...

Sent from my Wolfpack EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
And to the haters in this thread.... It's not "IF" they get network vision up, its WHEN... And for the most part we know when as they stated they were ahead the old original schedule and set to have it deployed everywhere by end of next year...

It's happening right now and if someone can't take the time to read up on it and understand what actually is being done right now, then their comments are not helping anyone at all.

Yes sprint speeds stink in a lot of areas but that is changing very soon. Might be hard for some to believe but its a plain fact given the results even over 3G in the deployed markets. It would be nice to stop hearing about the complaints of slow speeds bc that will soon be a thing of the past and something they already are fixing, thus making complaining about it pointless... If you can't hold out till your market is up or end of next yr then by all means move along to someone else....just don't act like sprint isn't doing anything at all about the current situation everywhere when complaining about them...

Sent from my Wolfpack EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jmc302005:
Well I guess the constitution state means nothing lol. Not even an inkling for Connecticut. Not one single town.

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
If your Population is >1000, Forgeddaboudit :(

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A company is only as good as their customer service, which is the true salt of a company.

If everything is fine, you pay your bill for services rendered, and no need to speak with cs.

If you have an issue, and cs Craps All Over you after and during 2 months of sub par services, others will hear about it.

When others had issues, and I didn't, I said so, but also realized they did have issues, and observed how sprint handled it, if the op kept us up to date.

If I get Service, above and beyond what is deemed average, as in a store or with a company, I write a Good Guy or Girl email to their Supervisors or Owners of the business to let them know they have a Valued Employee working for them.

The $10 Surcharge for 4G Is Muy Importante to mention the because there are Many sprint Customers whom Have been Paying the Surcharge for Years. And NEVER received Wimax......

Sprint has A Crap Track Record in my book and in the book of many others.

Wimax is Sprint's Fault. This assigning blame to oother Companies is Hog Wash.

At the End of the Day, Sprint Holds the ball and has to Accept the Blame.

I paid my Hard Earned Money to Sprint. I didn't get involved from any other Company.

I'll believe it when I see it regarding Sprint's Network Vision Services to the Masses.

And let Sprint Refund the $TEN DOLLAR SURCHARGE to the Millions of Customers who Never got to experience Wimax.

I'll Believe it When and IF I See it, regarding LTE.

Sprint has a Crap Track Record of Doing What They Say.

Except when they say they want their customers to Pay ETFs when services are not received. THAT they're good at Saying and Doing....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cruise350:
Blame the FBI or State Department for a bad LTE rollout. Sprint was originally going to go with Hauwai for it's network upgrade hardware but the Feds stepped in and told Sprint it ain't going to happen. Feds were afraid the Chinese govt would be able to steal state secrets over the network. 60 minutes had a special about it last week.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
I saw that Special, and Agree with the Feds Wholeheartedly.

I didn't realize Sprint was going to get involved with Hauwai.

I just lost what little respect I had left for Sprint.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rootlinux:
That makes perfect since.

Sprint can't use Chinese technology but the administration can give our foreign policy away.

Sounds reasonable./
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
The USG does do things a*se backwards sometimes, and of course practices hipocracy to its utmost :(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
So much false here.... Sprint is not the blame of WiMAX, that's clearwires financial troubles and inability to rollout fast like what sprint is doing themselves with lte. Most everyone knows that and knows the difference bw the two rollouts. Yes sprint did hold majority stake in clwr but they don't now, they are under 50% and even still it isn't easy as having controlling % to do things your way when you want to...hence you saw clwr initially on the NV plans but are not anymore bc they couldn't come to terms...

Using WiMAX as a base for how you think lte rollout will occur is a poor decision and your mistake.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
See DFW, Chicago, Atlanta, SF, ....those are small markets I guess is what your trying to say, or not worthy of initial rollout?...sorry but they have a defined plan and have it set out who is getting it when roughly. If you want to debate or even read and understand everything more please head to s4gru.com and read around there. Btw what's it matter when everyone will have it by end next yr for the most part anyway?...

Why you continue to post the negativity of sprint over here instead of the spending the time in your VZ SGS3 forum is interesting... Do note though this is not a sprint venting forum... Head to sprints site if you want to do that.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
The Bottom line is that a Majority of Sprint's Customers Never saw Wimax, yet Paid to Sprint the $10 Monthly Surcharge + Taxes & Additional Surcharges,

which Sprint Invoiced for, and kept.

If LTE does not get off the ground, and and/or has more Bugs than the Amazon Rain Forest, I'm sure that will be the Equipment Manufacturer's fault, or some other Vendors fault, or whomevers Fault, But Sprint's.

The Bottom line is that at the top of my Invoice, it says Sprint, Sprint Collects the Bucks, and therefore the Buck Stops with Sprint......
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Another fault... The $10 wasn't for WiMAX.... Ppl still don't understand that....

LTE IS off the ground and running so don't see how there is wait for it. It's a proven commodity already displayed in many cities/markets during their deployment, so no need to act like its still a fictional thing just because it hasn't reached your exact city yet...

Anyway enjoy your sgs3 on VZ.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
Meant to write <1000 in response to the other poster.

As I've said before, When and IF I See it, I'll Believe it.

Until then, Sprint has Absolutely Zero No credibility in my book.....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] joshuaw84:
Your living in the past, regardless of how sprint explained the $10 fee it was always to cover DATA costs. Did you use data? Well there's your answer to the charge, live in the now, get over it.

As far as Wimax goes I know you're hurt, a lot are. I will give you a hug if you need one, or anyone for that matter.

You keep saying the same thing. Let the debate progress or take a knee.

sent from my LTEvo
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
No fault here.

The $10 Surcharge was and is for Wimax when it was originally Levied against Customers. It was shortly afterwards, when Customers started complaining about Not having Wimax Accessibility, and asking why they are paying the $10 Surcharge that Sprint started describing it as something else in regards to how much data the new devices are capable of using.

I should know, because when I purchased my Original Evo 4G, the $10 Surcharge reasoning as I described was explained to me by a sprint rep. That the Evo will be able to use the very fast data that Wimax has to offer, and do so many things blah, blah, blah.

Sprint didn't call it a Surcharge But almost everyone knew that it was.

Then the descriptive changed as I mentioned prior.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
And in the mean time enough has been spent on this topic in here esp when a lot of it is unfounded personal claims. Go enjoy your new device and service carrier.

Let's respect the OP and not derail their thread further please.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Biker1:
No knee taken here.

Save your hugs for the Needy.

Open up your Pockets and refund Everyones Wimax $10 Surcharges or ETF s for those that didn't get services paid for.

I thought not....

I'll tell it like it is.

Don't like it, turn the page......

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I hear ya.

No problem.

What I say are not just my personal takes.

It is what it is.

I'll leave it at that,

Thanks
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Quis89:
So release a non LTE device, lock us into contract, and rollout LTE while we can't even upgrade to a device that can utilize it? Great plan. I personally prefer to be future proofed.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Alex1123:
LTE in Mishawaka and improved 3G

Improved 3G in Norte Dame

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0u2mr8t59n...2011.42.26.png

3g in Mishawaka sorry didnt finish speed test

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ddhcbhwv0b...2015.03.56.png

LTE

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rc71evjcbk...2016.38.12.png

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mps72u3lii...2014.26.01.png

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u23oxwxycj...2021.29.18.png

Voice and lte works at the same time

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hpmvb5ymv8...2015.12.42.jpg
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
The did that already. They gave us the EVO LTE that doesn't work right with LTE ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tenfingas:
Boom.

LTE signal holding strong where available.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] billy2526:
The 10$ fee may have been explained to you as a fee for WiMAX, but in reality it was to cover the extreme cost increase of data usage and adding data capacity in order to meet customer demand. The fee was explained and sold to you incorrectly which is unfortunate, but as is the case for all carriers right now the cost of data capacity and data usage by the customers is the most expensive service they provide. This is the reason for the higher cost with all carriers for data and the extra fee they either bake into the data cost to the customer or in Sprints case they charge it extra and don't hide in the monthly plan cost. Everyone wants 4 G, well that is an expensive network upgrade for all the carriers, that is one reason Verizon charges the high data fee they do and why they and AT&T had to cap or throttle data.usage, they couldn't keep up with demand during the upgrade. Patience is a virtue which you have shown you have and we thank you for that. Hopefully this helps explain data costs and fees.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
What kind of LTE signal strength are you getting? (and no, it's not the bars next to the 4G icon)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] phillip1953:
In Portland (Oregon)I get 10Mb d/l with my n7 tethered to my evo3d via wimax.

Posted via my Amiga 3000, EVO 3D , or Nexus 7
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cruise350:
I want to expand on this a little, like you said, it was never a wimax or 4g fee, it was a smartphone data fee. Smartphones are expected to use a lot more data than someone with out a smartphone, thus the additional $10. They could have raised the data fee for all customers, but then that would penalize the people that have dumb phones and use minuscule amounts of data compared to a smartphone user. That is what this fee has always been, you are right that a lot of Sprint reps originally mislabeled it as a 4g fee.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] EvoTastic:
Again, to piggy back on this. Sprint Sales reps said what they said to "sweeten the pot". They used the 4G fee as an explanation when they were trying to convince people to cross over. Sales tactics at their best. It's like a car salesman saying that side curtain air bags are STANDARD in their model. Can the other manufacturers say that? Well yes they can because it is required on all vehicles but if the other salesman doesn't say it then it doesn't exist. Sales 101. The sales reps said what they felt they had to say to explain the $10 surcharge that would make sense to the 80% of new customers that aren't well informed.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Guys, please stop the $10 talk. Let's respect the OP and not derail this thread any more. I asked this once already on the other page.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] swaze:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/18/sprint-nextel-takes-control-of-clearwire-after-increasing-stake/

So heres something for the whiners to think about. Looks like Sprint has a serious plan to transform this LTE network into something legit. They will have plenty of spectrum at their disposal with this move, and plenty of money and expertise from softbank to pump into their plans. Seems to me things are on the upswing.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] spencer311:
I just wish they would get the radios working right so 4glte would actually be reliable.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
6 months later and no fix still after 2 tries. The when will it be fixed quickly turns to will it be fixed.

Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] neopolotin75:
Guys its not the radio but more the software with the way its handing off 3g to LTE .......its been mentioned in other threads. Some people have no issues while others do....we arent official in Indy yet but when im connected i hold my connection until i get to far from the tower. I know we all have had bad experiences at some point but it only gets better with these rollouts :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
It doesn't get better with thicker coverage. I did many tests around an area blanketed with LTE between two EVOs. One stock, one with MeanRom.. And of course a stock gs3. Absolutely horrible experience on the EVOs.

Just like Sprint and HTC, they are in denial. It's costing them customers now and the snowball is getting bigger.

A buddy of mine with an EVO was telling me how crappy Sprint's LTE network was until he saw the real one with his girlfriend's iphone5.

Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge