yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
I think I have corrected the black text problem. Just have to recompile and check it. :p
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] NetSkipper:
Although the TaskManager is running on my stock JB 4.1.1 it's unfortunately not closing any application when I'm tapping Exit on the Active Application tab.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] moldovanos:
Guys, I just came from ios and even though I have read forums for last couple of days I cant figure out how to install this. I just put CM10 on my Att GS3 and it seems like I have less folders than with stock rom, I do not even have data or system folder. Can anybody give me step by step info how to do this? Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] moldovanos:
Ok, I used Android Commander, and was able to see all the folders. I found System/App and put Taskmanager in there, clicked on file properties and set permissions to rw-r-r, rebooted the phone and still dont have task manager. I have GS3 with CM but there is no sys-app folder in DATA???
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Hmmm... If you had read some previous posts, you would had known that you need to place the apk in system/app folder. The sys-parts folder in data was for my device only.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] moldovanos:
Lol, I did and I put it everywhere I could, what you failed to mention is that its not gonna work like in stock version, it actually gonna be a stand alone app :)

Thank you for the tweak, I finally got it. One more question, when I open it, it does not show all the apps running and it does not close the apps, it just tells me the number of apps it closed when I clear the ram, any thoughts?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Andrey.91177:
Hi have bug on sgs2 cm 9.1 no text only icons if press menu i can see this.

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And how to add widget like on stock rom?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] erpurohit:
ammar786

I have sent you pm...please have a look...

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Edit:-

Thanks ammar786 for giving the permission to distribute your work.

Here is the link zip to the flashable zip of your taskmanager.apk - http://d-h.st/EXH

It uses the universal flasher tool so if someone wants to revert they can just flash the backup created in sdcard under folder 'universal flasher'

Looking forward for more goodies from you...let me know in case I can help you.

p.s. - also voted 5 stars...guys please vote for him..he has a good job which no one was thinking...

cheers,

erpurohit
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Thanks for the zip and for the vote. :)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Link to flashable zip added to OP.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Motorhead1991:
Thanks ammar786, CM9 on the Rugby Smart is laggy due to th RAM consumption.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] behnameb7:
nice.working best, ammar please port s3 musicplayer please.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] coolpixs4:
I try it on Desire HD using ARHD 6.3.3. It showed in drawer applications

however it does not work properly and shows an error: "triangle+! and Sorry! The application Task manager (process com.sec.android.app.contropanel) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again."

Any advices for me to solve or how can I port it to work with DHD ARHD rom

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] vipul12389mehta:
The op says to push the apk file to /data/sys-parts...... on cm10

m on cm10 n i dnt have the mentioned dir...

So i pushed d file to /system/apps..n it worked..

So i req d op to update..s it cld b misleading to others...

My fone is galaxy R

Sent from my i9103 using CM10 alpha
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] erpurohit:
this was for I9003 and you are trying on different phone....
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Actually the OP is right for my phone since our system apps are in that directory. For other phones it is system/apps/. Maybe I should update the OP.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] toastmost:
GApps not working after intalling task manager

Hi, How can I remove your task manager. My GApps has stopped working since installing it. Your help would be much appreciated. thanks
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Just delete the apk from system/apps/ . But I don't think that it caused your GApps to stop working.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] mizie_ahmad:
does this method work for JB paranoidroid? :)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Try it and let me know. But it should work.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] mizie_ahmad:
work just fine. thanks mate. =D
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] killswitchoff:
help

trying to get this to work. im on sprint s3 and i dont have a sys-parts spot so i have no clue where to put this. also i cant seem to change the permissions. anyone have some insight? running fresh cm10 stable
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Just copy it to system/app/
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] killswitchoff:
k im retarded haha i got it where it needs to go i think, where it shows a bunch of other apps i have installed?

now i cant get permissions right though. they read as ---

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oh geeze ok i think i got it. had to overcome some serious personal mental speed bumps *slaps self*
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] brother3093:
Did both method of apk and flashing the zip, but task manger doesn't seems to appear in my application list~

Using AOSP 4.0.4 on SGS+.

Am I missing something?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jpilapil:
Also works on rooted cherry mobile flare/rebranded Karbonn A9+

I also downloaded and installed your app, and I'm quite happy to see that it also works for me.

The phone I'm using is a Cherry Mobile Flare (it's a rebranded Karbonn A9+) running Android 4.0.4. I've rooted it using Bin4ry's script. The stock ROM came without a task manager, and I've found the TouchWiz task manager app to be a useful one in my other phone, a Samsung Galaxy Y. I just transferred the apk to /system/app/ and restarted my phone.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] navinash.avi:
works great on cm10 alpha 3

working i flashed great
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] angel.a:
The zip failed to install on Galaxy Nexus + CM10, but the apk ins /system/app works perfectly.

thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] erpurohit:
which cwm version you are on...
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Jhowlett:
Works fine on my Galaxy S i9000 and my Galaxy tab 2 7" on CM 9.1.0

Thx a lot :)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] JS_racer:
must be slow here, i am only seeing the zip. do i rename to apk or is there an apk file somewhere ??

trying to install on my wifes nook color running cm10 from a sd card. not sure how the zip would work out.

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
The apk is attached to the OP. Place it in /system/app/ and change permissions to rw-r-r .
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] JS_racer:
that was strange, both links gave the zip (ie9) so i tried another browser. this is on my desktop, hmm, lol

chrome gave an apk and a zip like it should. not sure whats up with my ie9, oh well.

thanks for the time. installed apk, working on a cm10 nook color too.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] :
In CM 10 I have not sys-parts/app.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Place it in /system/app/

Time to change the OP.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] :
I've tried it and I've got notification:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
I think the message is self-explanatory, you are out of space, see the free space as shown by root explorer at the top. You've got only 4K available.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] :
I It did not even notice. My English is not that good. After re flashe CM 10 I can install it without any problems. Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sordna:
I tried it on stock 4.2.1 jelly bean (rooted). The app runs and shows active processes, but cannot kill anything, any idea why? I downloaded the .apk and put it in /system/app/ with correct permissions.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] giov87:
Just installed using the .apk, add permissions and reboot and can confirm that it works.. I use CyanogenMod 10.1 patched rom on my S2.. Thank you very much..:)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sordna:
It works on CM10 but not on stock 4.2.1 unfortunately (tested in both ROMs using a rooted Nexus phone, and with stock ROM it doesn't actually kill anything). Why is there a dependency on Cyangenmod? Other task killers (from the Play Store) work in stock ROMs just fine...
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Can't say for sure, unless you provide me a logcat.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sordna:
Here you go:

V/RunningAppsListActivity( 2514): Kill runningApplication! com.android.chrome
W/System.err( 2514): java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
W/System.err( 2514):	at java.lang.reflect.Method.invokeNative(Native Method)
W/System.err( 2514):	at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:511)
W/ActivityManager( 578): Permission Denial: forceStopPackage() from pid=2514, uid=10128 requires android.permission.FORCE_STOP_PACKAGES
W/ActivityManager( 578): Permission Denial: forceStopPackage() from pid=2514, uid=10128 requires android.permission.FORCE_STOP_PACKAGES
W/System.err( 2514):	at com.sec.android.app.controlpanel.PackageInfo.killPackage(PackageInfo.java:912)
W/System.err( 2514):	at com.sec.android.app.controlpanel.activity.RunningAppsListActivity$7.handleMessage(RunningAppsListActivity.java:270)
W/System.err( 2514):	at android.os.Handler.dispatchMessage(Handler.java:99)
W/System.err( 2514):	at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:137)
W/System.err( 2514):	at android.app.ActivityThread.main(ActivityThread.java:5039)
W/System.err( 2514):	at java.lang.reflect.Method.invokeNative(Native Method)
W/System.err( 2514):	at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:511)
W/System.err( 2514):	at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit$MethodAndArgsCaller.run(ZygoteInit.java:793)
W/System.err( 2514):	at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit.main(ZygoteInit.java:560)
W/System.err( 2514):	at dalvik.system.NativeStart.main(Native Method)
W/System.err( 2514): Caused by: java.lang.SecurityException: Permission Denial: forceStopPackage() from pid=2514, uid=10128 requires android.permission.FORCE_STOP_PACKAGES
W/System.err( 2514):	at android.os.Parcel.readException(Parcel.java:1425)
W/System.err( 2514):	at android.os.Parcel.readException(Parcel.java:1379)
W/System.err( 2514):	at android.app.ActivityManagerProxy.forceStopPackage(ActivityManagerNative.java:3405)
W/System.err( 2514):	at android.app.ActivityManager.forceStopPackage(ActivityManager.java:1732)
W/System.err( 2514):	... 12 more

EDIT: Note I have it in /system/app with proper permissions. If I go to system settings->apps it does not show in downloaded apps (so indeed it's considered a system app) and when I go to ALL I see it, and if I view the permissions it does say "close other apps, retrieve running apps".

The app is installed as /system/app/TaskManager.apk

rw-r--r--

Owner: root

Group: root

I downloaded the .apk, didn't use the zip method by the way.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Seems it needs a new permission. Will look into it. Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sordna:
Cool, whenever you update the .apk I will try it ASAP. I also found this that seems relevant:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6577591/activitymanager-forcestoppackage-from-task-manager

thanks for looking into this!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] gerz2405:
Apps' name on active application can't be seen because the color is black.. Can you fix that?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
I just saw that it already has these permissions. So don't why it isn't working on 4.2.1. When I will come on 4.2.1, I'll check it out.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] omaryahya97:
is there any way to add it to notification bar like touchwiz?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Touchwiz has task manager in notification bar?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] omaryahya97:
yes there is a button that takes you to task manager at the bottom of the bar
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Are you talking about recent apps screen?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Yup it's a common issue...
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bnedea:
thanks

Galaxy S i9000, cm7.2 stable, stock, I confirm a great working application (flashed from recovery). The thing with running application's names still persists but it's not a dealbreaking issue.

Thank you very much, keep up the good work!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] szjuang:
I just tried it on cm10.1 and it works fine on I9103 .. thanks
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] arjunpaliath:
Good work

Hi,

I have installed JellyBam 4.2.2 on my S3 and I can confirm that this is working flawlessly.

This is really good port as I was looking for a simple task manager.

Thanks a ton @ammar786
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] blttalas:
Tried on Motorola Atrix 4G(CM7) Working well

But stock rom when i push kill all nothing happens

i think it happens due the kernel
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] karlcaks:
Nice

nice bro :good::good::good::good::good:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] LiquidZero:
Just updated from CyanogenMod 10.0 (stable) to 10.1.1 RC with JB 4.2.2. The permissions are correct when checking with root browser. When I tried the flashable zip, it said error: check something file. Copy and paste method does nothing. After reboot, apk is missing from system/app.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] LiquidZero:
Let's try this again.... Apparently the copy and past method didn't work for me because i copied and pasted the flashable .ZIP and not the .APK. Now that my stupidity has been moved to the side for the time being, here's the error I get when trying to flash the "flashable .ZIP":

ClockworkMod Recovery v6.0.3.1

- - Installing: /external_ad/TaskManager.zip

Finding update package...

Opening update package...

Installing update...

<<------------------------------>>

UNIVERSAL FLASHER TOOL v . 4 . 0

by JRsoft & Intronauta

- - - - - - - - - - - -

based in <VillainTheme System>

<<------------------------------>>

Create by erpurohit

<<------------------------------>>

SETTING UP THE ENVIRONMENT >>

{ERROR] We need one sdcard mounted!

[EXIT] Check and configure MOD.config

Install from sdcard complete.

HOWEVER, it does install via copy/paste. Works great! Even on JB 4.2.2!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Lim Wee Huat:
I'm really wondering why people are installing Task manager back into their custom ROMs? This is totally unnecessary.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] LiquidZero:
I think it might be a convenience for most. For me, I find it's generalized gathering of information and system stats easier to work with. It lists only relevant and open applications, displays system ram and storage space, and offers lesser button presses for multi-uninstalls.. It's lightweight, too. Usability is a great description for said application. The system's SETTINGS > APPS > etc.. is a longer process.. installing task-killers is an obvious no-no.. and it's integration with the TouchWiz interface (for some) means reliability. It's made for our S3's.

Why download a weather application if your system OS can display weather data directly on your LockScreen? 1st best answer: Yahoo (weather) data sucks monkey nuts. 2nd best answer: Because we can. Just about any answer will do.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Lim Wee Huat:
Not gonna go into details but all I can say is this is totally unnecessary and its a waste of space and ram. Not to offend but if you're running this on a custom, most likely you're a noob.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] LiquidZero:
Some, like myself, find it necessary. You're welcome to go into details. I might be a noob in some aspects, but I've been at this for quite some time.

Having this task manager is quite handy to me. This, combined with Greenify, pulls much weight for me and my S3. Considering that Task Manager displays an average of 380-430 MB of Ram of my 1630 MB of RAM used (same with system settings, GoLauncher, Trebuchet, or any other launch I decide to use). Much slimmer than some other task handlers out there. And the fact that I only have to press one key to see this information makes it quite useful to someone like me who uses their device to their full potential. So.. I may be a rare reason, but I'm one of many that the "old" TouchWiz task manger is still desired.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Lim Wee Huat:
This task manager and with Greenify? Greenify is just another task manager in disguise. Good luck.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AmmarGitham:
Hi. I've been following your conversation... I would like to put in a few points why I use this task manager...

Since my phone's RAM is low and I play Ingress, I like to know how much free RAM I have before I start it. The quick view of free ram is the primary reason of using this manager.

Not only that, I can kill minimised apps with this. I have the habit of pressing the home button after I am done browsing or using the calculator.

Yup these are only reasons why I use this task manager.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Andrespro6:
I love this Task Manager!!!

Its perfect in my S6500D CM10.1

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[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Jspm:
Doesn't work on cm10.1?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] LiquidZero:
Yes. Via Copy and Paste method, This has worked on every NIGHTLY CM 10.1 and 10.2 (Android 4.3). And I love it!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] deDante:
app I wanted so much, since using CM10.2 Alpha4 by Dhiru didnt have Task Manager...
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] ajayk92:
Does this work on CM11 as well??
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Firoz24:
Thanks a lot bro. I was finding this one. Task manager is best to close minimized apps and to know ram usage and storage usage and who r saying this is waste then dont use, noboday saying to use it. Working in cm 10.2

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It may be working. Why don't u give a try and let us know. Just flash zip file in cwm.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] ajayk92:
didnt work on CM11
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] lifehijack:
Can you port the new Task Manager APK from Note3/S4 to work with CM?

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] gewone:
Installed easy on a Samsung Galaxy Wonder (GT-i8150) with latest CyanogenMod 9.

Haven't figured out why/if I need it yet, though.

Pieces will fall into place, eventually, I guess! :)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] LiquidZero:
The latest build of CM is 10.2... (Android 4.3)... CM11 ...while being worked on.. isn't officially available.. since I'm sure they're waiting on code from KitKat (Android 4.4) to be released on select devices. Are you sure you haven't had too much to drink? or smoke?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] ajayk92:
There are lots of unofficial CM11 builds, even for i9003,

Feast your eyes.. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2534312
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] peztoa:
It does work with CM11 on my s3 mini :D
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] ttf911:
nice :D
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] kithmal11:
TochWiz Task Manager for CM11

I made a simple flashable zip for the task manager.

This task manager works on CM11.

Download the attached file and flash through CWM Recovery.

I'm only sharing this flashable zip I made for myself because the flashable zip from [MENTION=4490028]AMMAR7[/MENTION]68 didn't work on my philz_touch recovery.

All the credit goes to the people who developed and ported it and shared it here on the first place. :)

Tested devices:

Galaxy SL i9003 running CM11

Galaxy S3 LTE SHV-E210K running CM11

Epic 4G running CM11 Nightly (thanks to [MENTION=4755434]EpicMikeNC[/MENTION])

Samsung SGH-T679

Say Thanks if I have helped you. =)

Original Post from ammar768

Regards
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] RodimusConvoy:
It works just fine on the nightlys for CM11, at least as far back as Jan. 25th. I'm on the nightly for Feb. 2nd and it works just fine. I make a copy of apk of the file that I have saved in a folder on my SDCard, and put it in /system/apps, change permission (I check everything) and reboot.

Wow this seems pretty cool. I may give it a shot out of curiosity. :D Either way, yes TouchWiz TaskManager works just fine on CM11. I can't imagine my life without it. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] RodimusConvoy:
You can add the Epic 4G (not to be confused with the Epic 4G Touch) to that list! Worked perfectly. :highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] ahmed.s:
does it work on CM 11?

Thank you
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] RodimusConvoy:
Yes it does. I'm living proof. What phone do you have?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] ahmed.s:
i have samsung galaxy SL (I9003)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] venkatraman:
Working perfectly on Omni rom 4.2.2 galaxy Royale :D
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] venkatraman:
Clearing ram doesn't actually clear the memory
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] ahmed.s:
:confused::confused:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jajb:
Works great on my Samsung SGH-T679, thank you! :)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Innervate_v0.5:
will this work on CM 10.1? my phone is samsung galaxy ace GT-S5830
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] I98:
Hello

Is there a widget for the task manager?

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] RodimusConvoy:
I switched to an experimental rom that uses 4.4.4. Can neither flash this nor install the apk. :( So I guess 4.4.4. is the brakes when it comes to the Epic 4G.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] s2rooter:
Thanks for the tip. :good: I put the apk into /system/apps as well and it works. I adjusted the permissions rebooted.

I am using an epic 4g touch SPH-D710. :D Works great on cm11 using the latest nightlycm-11-20150301-NIGHTLY-d710
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] akami50:
Thank you.

Is there an updated version in CM 12.1?

Sorry for my english.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] faiz20:
where is the motion settings in Galaxy Nexus?

Build: JRO03C

Baseband version: I9250XXLF1

Android version: Jelly Bean 4.1
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mariachi202:
Throw it out the window while meauring the time it takes to hit the ground on a stopwatch.

If objects in motion tend to stay in motion, then E=mc squared, where E is your wrong thread.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jackie_jagger:
Firstly, the Android development forum is NOT the place for this. Use question and answers or general for something like this.

Secondly, what I infer from what you're trying to ask is the motion settings in the home screen to move widgets around by moving your phone? if yes, that is a TouchWiz feature. Galaxy Nexus doesn't have it.

Be careful next time and thanks.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tybylyca2001:
Hy, i have a question

Is it possible to install an atrix 4g firmware on a europe retail atrix(mb860)? Is there a problem whit my network provider?

Thx in advance
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t.Lancer:
if you mean, if you can install ROMs that are available here in the forum, then yes, you can
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tybylyca2001:
Atrix

my atrix(not 4g) has android version si 2.3.4, and i found on motorola web site that atrix 4g has 2.3.6 latest update, and i wonder if i can instal that update on my atrix.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tatperson:
If you want to brick your phone, then yes :) if not, there's always the Bell 2.3.6 firmware which should work on all international Atrixes.

Sent from that Atrix... Motorola, where's my ICS?!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tybylyca2001:
:)

Nice, i already brick my phone, :)) because i receive the answer to late, but, i manage to recover with 2.3.6 brasil retail firmware :)

cheers mate, thank you for the answer
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzkalra:
So does it mean that I can install bell firmware 2.3.6 on uk atrix without boot loader unlocking?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tatperson:
Yes, you can flash Bell 2.3.6 SBFs on stock or rooted firmware on UK atrix. Just be careful and know what you're flashing over RSD Lite.

Sent from that Atrix... Motorola, where's my ICS?!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JenLOI:
Does Samsung s3 in box provide any memory card?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dav_prime:
No, it comes with internal memory only. Any external SD has to be bought aftermarket.

To be fair you would want a bigger and better card then they would throw in anyway. Until then 16 gb or 32 gb internal is plenty enough to get the device up and working and still have room over for a decent amount of media.