yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] keeverw:
Awesome, as all Liquid roms are!

Now I just need a blacked-out theme, and I'm good to go.

I don't know much about themes, but do they need to be specificly made for this rom? Or will some generic ICS theme work?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] heath2805:
Most cm9 themes seem to work great. I would make a backup first.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] major_works:
Finally, some real AOSP ICS for the Thunderbolt. Liquid, total props to you! You beat two gynormous corporations all by yourself.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] _highway_:
:laugh:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] heath2805:
Did you try to wipe market cache and fix permissions?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] major_works:
Heath:

Thanks for the reply. No, I didn't. But after a reboot and a few more tries, it somehow resolved itself. It was weird... when I first got in, even though I was signed in properly, it showed me having no apps installed and didn't know that I'd purchased the ones I'd purchased. Tried a couple more times, and it righted itself.

Noob question: With only this stock ROM installed and no other apps, how would I fix permissions? I've been using 4EXT to do that.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] heath2805:
If you have 4ext installed. 4EXT takes over the system .You can boot into recovery and fix permissions.

The 4ext app just allows you to do tasks without being in recovery. 4EXT will still be your only recovery once installed.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] namurt:
hey heath, if i recall correctly, you've always favored the .9 radios. you running them with this? (or possibly with jester's jmod?)

if so, how are they treating you? i know all of the rom testing was done with the .19's, but i alway seemed to have better luck with the .9's. just looking for other users' experiences.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bsdesign0000:
OK dumb question. Whats the difference between this one and the JMOD version that was released? Do they both also have nice battery life like the one I had been using prior to these new releases (I think its the JMOD one I have now)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] heath2805:
Running solid on .9 radio so far.

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Liquids is stripped down to stock. And camera works.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bsdesign0000:
thanks man... i was runing the Liquid ICS mecha and the battery life was awesome... hoping these both are good on battery as well... i have the extended battery and i was getting almost 2 days without recharge
[Thunderbolt Android Development] heath2805:
Np...their both great on battery :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hallstevenson:
Is this an ICS kernel or a GB kernel ? If it's ICS, I presume it's been ported from a similar phone, yes ?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] EShow:
Is there a way to get Google Now up and running on this ROM?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
This post applies here also

I hope everyone is still enjoying the new release. I do have something to say tho, guys please start reading the post, if you donate from my rom please split it. If from his ROM id rather you just donate to him for obvious reasons. NO ONE has donated to liquid so far, I had to split it myself, i dont like being the accountant all the time. Something is not right with that picture. It takes 2 extra seconds to do for someone who has spent more hours on it than i can count. I'd rather not see him get mad and bail on the bolt again. That is all I'm trying to say, have a good day.

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Yep flashable from here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1747224

or to make it short

Online only Files

With Online/Offline Files
[Thunderbolt Android Development] andrewc513:
A couple strange oddities:

1. System/Liquid settings didn't stick after first reboot. I had to completely re-do my toggles, ringtones, UI tweaks, etc. They started sticking after subsequent reboots.

2. I've gotten one random reboot, seemed to be going between 3G/4G in a strong LTE area. (I lost track of what the radios' shorter version names were, but my baseband is 1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1)

3. Home button quit working. Single and long presses do nothing.

4. Slide lock screen quit working. No matter how many times I change it and change it back, the phone just unlocks straight back into whatever I was doing before.

5. Notification sounds quit working. Checked all applicable volume settings, everything is okay and nothing got changed before they quit working.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
sorry,

I haven't seen any of that yet.

Wifi connectivity is a little flaky. Not sure if that's ROM/Kernel related or just the n ature of the T-bolt.

I did need a few reboots to get into Google Play store.

Otherwise, Liquid Smooth for me.

Maybe try to fix permissions and wipe dalvik and cache.

If that doesn't do it after a few reboots, do a superwipe and start from scratch.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Scooter Scott:
Downloaded and installed...giving it a whirl and will report back. So far I'm loving it!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Its called you didnt wipe good. lol

You usually have to format /system manually. Sometimes it doesnt get it all. This is when 4EXT Format all except SDCARD would come in handy. Wipe ur davlik to.

I had a build of mine do that no home button bug, but sure enough it just didnt wipe good enough
[Thunderbolt Android Development] moonlightinwhite:
I keep trying other launchers, but end up going back to GO Launcher EX (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex) on my Thunderbolt.

I prefer Holo Launcher on my Acer Iconia Tab A500, though: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobint.hololauncher

Nova Launcher is popular, too, but I gave up on it when I gave up on Apex: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raphytaffy:
Is anyone using Emit with this ROM? It seems to connect to my servers just fine, but when I play a video, all I get is a black screen.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] .SoFLy.:
Only if you can't get enough satellites / are having difficulty getting a lock. Otherwise, no.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] premiso:
Ok, I had to go back to a different ROM, as this one was pretty buggy, maybe someone has the solutions.

First issue, GMail / Mail. I tried all the "solutions" in this thread for the mail disappearing after 3 seconds. However, after a day or so the solutions seem to be undone and it reverts back to it. I do not feel like applying those fixes all the time (unless someone has a real fix). What I have tried was re-installing GMail, works for a little while. Changing the options in Gmail to only doing 7 days of backlog. If the backlog is the issue, I will try changing it to 1day, but yea. I also did a full system wipe and setup GMail with the 7 day backlog and the issue still re-occurs. Tried flashing the GApps to see if it would work or not, same issue. Not sure what is causing this, but yea.

Second issue, the video camera is a known issue. I am not sure how, but my regular Camera stopped working. The only way I was able to get it back was with re-romming. I think it had something to do with me accidentally hitting the video camera and that seems to make the Camera FC all the time.

If anyone has seen these issues and knows a real fix, that would be awesome (IE stop the Camera from ForceClosing). I had this issue (Even after a reboot it kept force closing) when I really needed a camera to take pictures of an accident. I am willing to try some fixes, but yea. Those two issues make this ROM really un-usable for my daily needs. I understand it is a type of "Beta" more or less just letting others know. Aside from them, I loved how fast this ROM was. I will probably try it using the HTC ThunderBolt tweaks tool and see if that helps any. Just looking to see if there are "real fixes".

Thanks,

premiso.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hallstevenson:
It may not be ideal, but it works 100% reliably and there's no ill-effects, but as I posted in this thread, use an older (non-ICS) version of GMail. I'm using v2.3.6.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] premiso:
I tried an older version from the GApps, but not sure if that was non-ICS. I will try the 2.3.6 version and let you know how that goes.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mdphoenix:
I've gotta go back to Liquid Smooth Gingerbread, again. I've been running it since last November and it's been the most solid ROM I've ever run. My issues include, first and foremost E-mail going to White text on White background. I don't know what triggers it. But after a few days of using this ROM, my e-mails are unreadable unless copy and paste the entire message into another program. Second is the 4G/1x issue. I have to periodically switch to airplane mode, then back and it goes back to 4G. Today, that fix wouldn't work. I updated my radio and it did work. So I guess I'll know in a day or so if that fixed it.

Third, and this isn't a direct issue of the ROM, I tried loading Google Now when I first installed the ROM. After a day of having Now installed, none of my notifications worked. No e-mail, text, or ringtones.

If anyone has a suggestion, I'm all ears, otherwise, I gotta go back. Overall, this has been great, but these few are deal breakers.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gobraves00:
I use maildroid for all my emails and never have had a problem.

sent from thunda down unda
[Thunderbolt Android Development] namurt:
what's broken with apex since the update? fine here, running liquid ics jmod.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ArmyAg08:
Change your notification color to white.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JoeyDVDZ:
I don't know if anyone else has said this, so if they did, I apologize. What I do when flashing a new rom is (If you're using clockwork) go to mounts and storage, then I format data, system, and cache. Then I wipe dalvik. Then, even though at this point it's kind of pointless, I'll do a factory reset.

Once I've done that, then I'll flash the new ROM.

(This is all AFTER I've backed up my current rom; that way, if I screw it up, at least I have a functional backup to fall back on.)

Good luck sir!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
Its OK for me too. They fixed whatever was broken quick because it was in their release notes at the top.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mdphoenix:
It's the sound that doesn't work. Not the status bar notification. It makes no notification sounds, but games, and the volume beep all work.

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Thanks. I'll try it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ajarmeh104:
thanks for the great info. I already flashed using 4ext ... :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hallstevenson:
There's been a couple of different options thrown out, in this thread...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mdphoenix:
Should I take that as, "go back and read all 50 pages if you want an answer"?

Just cleared data on E-mail and reconfigured. Its back to normal but now Facebook has gone blank. Any hint around what page these suggestions ar

Sent from mobile command...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hallstevenson:
This one
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Adam_Hawk:
LOL:laugh:

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This issue affects also other ICS. I was using the leak and had the same issue. I just made clearing cache an habit. No big deal (for me).

The font memory corruption on the launcher is annoying, but the workaround works every time (Settings - Launcher - Homescreen - Icon Labels - Hide and then repeat removing the checkmark).

Probably someone has a better solution, but this one works for me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DrunkUncas:
I'm thinking about starting a few new threads, each dealing with the solution to a specific bug.

That way we can keep this thread clear of troubleshooting and use it exclusively for kissing the developer's ass and beating folks down who ask for ETAs.

:D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WalkerGFX:
Most likely a good idea since it looks like problems for all ics roms here
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tm24fan8:
This guy has the right idea. Especially if he's being as sarcastic as I think he is. Bravo sir, you have echoed my exact thoughts.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] onestoploser:
It's not that people don't want to help. The problem is that some people don't even bother to read the thread and see if there is an answer already posted, and it gets frustrating reading the same already-answered questions over and over. Y U NO READ THRAD?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] intense21:
Anyone having issues with Netflix I got no video' , audio OK but no video.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
I'm pretty sure its stated in the op that Netflix still doesn't work right....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] onestoploser:
See my post directly above yours.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ajarmeh104:
First I really would like to thank all those who put the effort to prepare this ROM, and of course those who support this forum/thread and help out newbies such as myself.

after using this ROM for 2 days, I think it has lots of potential,,, but at this time it is very buggy and not usable for people who seek stability and reliability.

some of the problems I encountered so far (not listing the known email, GPS, camera issues):

1. when i go to menu -> manage apps the APP text (the name of the APP) became garbled, distorted and not readable, repeated the process several times and each time I got the same garbled text. I tried to take a screenshot to share with you, but could not do that using VOL+POWER buttons, then i went to the market trying and installed an APP that can take a screenshot.... after the installation, the APP list was refreshed and the problem disappeared.

2. Bluetooth: very buggy, i never had an issue with the previous stock ROMS,,,, but in this one I have many problem; example: I paired with my car and the only thing that works over BT is the music player... the phone does not work,,, even YouTube, Paltalk or other audio applications wont work properly.... you can hear the other application's sound but it will be doubled with the music player sound... pausing or stopping the music player will cause the other application to stop sending audio over BT.... a reboot didnt help.

3. Suddenly, the headset stopped working.... and the phone started to use the built in external speaker... !!!! removing the headset jack and placing it back didnt solve the problem ... the phone acted exactly like if the headset was not plugged in.... I was on the train.,... WTF ... LOL. only a restart could resolve the issue.

4. for no appearant reason, the back light stopped going off when the phone goes to sleep... even pressing the power button would not nakd the light to go off.... only a reboot could take care of this issue.

5. signal indicator is wrong. ( I am using .9 radio) i am in a place where i could not make a phone call (inside the elevator) and the signal showed full bars ... !!!!

6. if i wake the phone from sleep, the little clock at the top/right becase garbled and not readable at all .... another reboot.

please keep in mind that i am not overloading the phone.... I am using less than 300Mb of memory, and i didn not install any themes, or heavy APPs .... just a fes basic ones ..

I do agree that this is a good ROM for those who love trying out new things ,..... but it is not for those seeking a reliable and stable phone or those who are not interested in continuous flashing....

I installed this ROM trying to solve the continuous data drop (unless I reboot) that i had after the .19 OTA :( and to be honest at this point I am completely done with HTC; this is my second HTC,,,, and NEVER AGAIN.....

just my 2.7 cents :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] :
This thread is starting to make me sick. I understand as a user who's not as acquainted with the way threads work around XDA especially threads about releases work, which I apologize for any of the members who've come off as rude, including myself, but the main rule I've learned over my few posts here and sitting back and watching is to Read through the thread for your same issue - see if someone else covered it and documented a work around or fix for it - if that's not possible, use the search function and search the thread for keywords. It does get tiring to read through the same issues and questions, but I understand its initial response when you have a question about an error to post it. It's natural, so while I understand, please try to look through the thread first before asking your question.

I'm not a mod, not a senior member, not an expert or anyone of authority, just putting out my advice to people just now reading into this thread or posting on this thread about this rom from one member to another.

-Alex

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I'm jumping ship from this thread...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] baffula:
So it looks like booting into recovery to clear cache is the only way to fix the gmail issue?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] donnyp1:
I never could get it to work right, buy give it a shot atleast.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] onestoploser:
Manage Apps>Gmail>Clear Cache
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hallstevenson:
No

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I suspect you really won't.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] moonlightinwhite:
That's not even worth 2.7 cents. You are the problem, not the ROM.

Just my cold hard cash :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ajarmeh104:
why are you saying this? really?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] SetNick:
GREAT ROM. :highfive::good:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jumpman1229:
So this rom has been awesome and has been my daily driver for some time now but unless I can get something fixed then I might have to switch to another rom. It seems as if over time it has gotten buggier and buggier. It will freeze when I'm in an app and press the home button and take 3 minutes or so to finally display the home screen. If I go to press the power button just to put it on standby, it takes at least 30 seconds for that. When I pull the notification bar down, it sometimes goes halfway down and gets stuck and runs SUPER slow until I do a reboot. I've tried using Nova, Apex and the stock launcher but its all the same for all of them. Any help is greatly appreciated
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Scooter Scott:
I'm experiencing the opposite. I've been running this as my daily driver and so far it's been getting less buggy as I have been using it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ajarmeh104:
... add to the list that i provided last night:

facebook APP started behaving similar to GMAIL where it displays blank screen... try to scroll down you will see the page and it will become blank again as soon as you release the scroll.

also for those who dont accept any negative opinion about this ROM: please be patient and accept the opposite. we all believe this is a great ROM and tha's why we installed it on our phones,,, however the amount of maintenance, reboots required to maintain this ROM might not be pleasant to everyone especially if they are not "flashoholics" .. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sithdroid2187:
I had been using this as a daily driver since it's release. However, due to my phone not dialing out on bluetooth I had to go back to using a GB rom for the time being. I sure hope bluetooth gets worked out though.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tm24fan8:
Probably because he's a troll. Just ignore him and he'll eventually go away. We hope.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] moonlightinwhite:
Because the majority of your "problems" could be solved by reading the thread in its entirety. There is no one to blame but yourself for laziness. Think the thread is too long to read? Go back to stock.

Since when is it trolling to call someone out for a failure to read through the thread before posting the same "problems" that have been experienced, described, and solved by others numerous times? This thread does not need to be bloated with yet another person who is too lazy to read through it.

I'm not saying ALL of his problems would be fixed by reading the thread, but the majority would (items 1, 2, and 5 have been well documented, at least). If he's having the SAME problems after reading the thread and applying the fixes offered, tested, and proven to work by others, then he should say so. But we all (those who have read through the thread) know that's not the case.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hallstevenson:
Do people need to read the entire thread ? Absolutely not ! When threads get this long, I always suggest reading a few pages back and then up to the end. How many is a "few" is up to the person. Go back (4) pages and read to the end. Later go back another (4). Go at least a month back ! Why read about issues on page 1 or 2 that were possibly solved a LONG TIME AGO ?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] moonlightinwhite:
I'm relatively new to this forum; on others, though, it's nice when they have a "wiki" that's reserved just below the OP on the first page. Vetted users can then edit it and, as a community, quick-reference information (like fixes for common issues on any given ROM) can be shared WITHOUT having to read through 80-some pages.

In lieu of that, though, spending a little time reading through what's there makes sense. 80 pages does not take that long to scan through; if it were 400, though, that'd be something else.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] technope:
[/COLOR]

Umm.. I always start with the search box and go from there. WiFi tether? Bluetooth? It's all right there and there's no need to blindly scan a brazilian pages.

One of the greatest inventions in the history of internet forums. :good:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hallstevenson:
Sadly, using any sort of "search" function is a lost art... :crying:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ang1dust:
Lolz, Brazilian! Lets all move to south america, apparently they have been the new Googleplex
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CyD13:
I'm having the same issue and I don't know what to do about it. It's getting really bad. Try unchecking "force gpu rendering" in the developer settings and see if that helps.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] recDNA:
AOSP roms are always WAY smaller than sense roms. If you want sense ics use nusense 6.4. The bamf rom is very raw. Santods nusense works very well, I just prefer aosp so I hang around this thread hoping for the best.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] *BAM*:
Nice to see new people to the forum are bringing humility and respect towards other users.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] baffula:
Excellent. Thanks!

Hopefully they patch it soon!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CyD13:
It seems like every time I reboot something breaks. First wifi, then sms, then mms, then camera, now 3g data. A reboot always seems to fix the issue but introduce a new one. What the heck is going on here?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Viper Daimao:
Did the status bar time and date freeze or just a time and date widget on your screen? I had the widgets freezing on me and unchecked the force gpu rendering option and i think it fixed it. However I have had an issue with my alarm clock sometimes not going off. A couple of times it just hasn't gone off at all and I over slept. This morning I woke up early with my wife's alarm and waited and never heard my alarm go off. I look at my phone, and it has my alarm set to snooze. 10 mins later it goes off from the snooze. I never touched it, and didn't set it to snooze. I checked the volume and the alarm volume was about 75%. Not sure what's going on, maybe it's not coming out of sleep properly to play the alarm?