yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Off-topic] beneath-a-burning-turtle:
I have no regrets starting this thread lol
[Off-topic] stamatis:
You should,i regret posting here way before....its been stuck at the top of the participated threads:mad:

:p
[Off-topic] coincoin4ever:
Know your place. I am years more experienced than you in floating point arithmetic.

Before being arrogant, make sure that what you re telling is right. Pay respect I can be your teacher.

So if you cannot understand what you re doing is wrong. I m sorry for you the future will tell teach you lessons I hope.
[Off-topic] prototype7:
Lol. Starting the post with "Know your place" and then saying milad is the one being arrogant. Hypocritical much? Honestly, can you guys discuss this without automatically assuming you're right and looking down on everyone who disagrees?
[Off-topic] coincoin4ever:
exactly
[Off-topic] beneath-a-burning-turtle:
I think its kinda funny watching all these people argue this when its poissible in theory, but has no real principle in actuality
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
This^ It all depends in what you mean by "equals"

Case closed. Everybody is right.
[Off-topic] stamatis:
Lol,I think you shouldn't tell sth like this in your thread after 400 posts.

Agreed though,and this is why I didn't participate much...
[Off-topic] arathur:
Let x = 0.9999999999

10x = 9.9999999999

Subtract x from both sides:

10x - x = 9.999999999 - x

9x = 9

x = 1
[Off-topic] a.cid:
1 = 1

1^2 = 1

1^5 = 1

1^2 = 1^5

Equating the powers, we get,

2 = 5

Now, where's my Noble?
[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
what about the pony thread, the mafia thread, the MTM thread, and the TH thread? are they a waste of time?
[Off-topic] finalhit:
What are you trying to prove with this?

.999... does not equal to that series.

1/x expanded as a series is

1/1 +1/2+1/3+1/4...

And it does not equal zero..

Also square brackets does not denote the floor function.

Also you cant use the floor function without knowing if .9... is less than or equal to zero. So for you to use floors as part of you proof presupposes your thesis is true...which makes you proof a recursive argument.

Everything you said is wrong. You are bad at this.

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A paradox is not a law or a theorem. It is a seemingly contradictory statement that demonstrates a greater truth.

To those who argue that commonsense tells you that .999... ~= 1, zenos paradox tells you no.

If such a statement is true, then movement is impossible.

To those who say that .999... ~= 1 doesn't matter, aren't aware that every time they move, they are demonstrating zenos paradox, and why .9...=1 matters.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
There is no "at infinity". Infinity is not a destination and can not be reached. You never get to a point where it just stops, so there is no "at infinity".
[Off-topic] finalhit:
Why do you need it to stop?

There are infinite points between point a and b...and yet you can still traverse the distance between them.

After traversing the infinite points between your house and McDonalds, you get to buy 20 chicken nuggets for 5 dollars.

Hmm, pink slime.

There are different types of infinite sums, some converges to point, and some don't
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Wow. I wake up and find 11 more pages...

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[Off-topic] usaff22:
Why this thread went past 1 page, let alone 47 is beyond me...
[Off-topic] finalhit:
So do what you always do, just skip all the arguments that proves you wrong and just declare that you're right and everyone else is wrong without any proof.

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Because people don't know how math works

Xda is supposed to be a nerd site, this is quite disappointing

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Lol
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
When do I always do that? I always read every proof and every argument. That's you who disregards anybody's proof and states you are right.

And my math teacher said it doesn't equal one.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
A few pages back another member posted a graph. Tell me, does the value of that function ever actually reach 1 on the right side? Nor will that graph "reach" infinity. Hence my other argument about there being no such thing as "at infinity". There's some concrete proof.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
We know how math works. Again, you think of yourself better than us. You see yourself as smarter and thus refuse to listen to our arguments. I've read all of your proofs, its just that they don't necessarily make .999999...=1

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
I'm not going to argue theory here, or put any opinion in my statement. I will stick to the facts

.99999 repeated is = 1

Since no nay sayers have done what I've asked and actually talked to a mathematician (Mathematics phD), I will be the one representing them all. And I still urge you to do so because you will still argue with me after this post.

Please do not bring up silly arguments like ".9999 is NOT 1, obviously because it gets close but never reaches."

Here is my very clear and concise PRE ALGEBRA proving .9999 repeated =1.

Let's assume .9r is .9 repeated. Note that r is NOT a variable.

So, .9r = x

10x= 9.9r

9.9r = 9+.9r, or 9+x

9+x= 10x

9=9x

x=1, and thus .9r=1

I will continue to debate you if you choose to stick to strictly mathematical responses, not opinions or theory.
[Off-topic] finalhit:
Which proof of yours have I disregarded?

You have disregarded all of mine without cause...other than it doesn't feel right.
[Off-topic] gagdude:
Middle school math teacher? Or HS?

Unless he/she is a college professor it is likely they are not fully educated in math as they only get a teacher certification not an advanced math degree.

Anyways my post back there is still available for anyone to debate
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
My school is small, but he teaches 7-12. I'm in 9th. He is more than fully educated in math. He's like a genius. He teaches from Pre-Algebra(7) to Trig and Calc.(11/12)

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[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
lol. I know how math works. but you don't realize that every question and/or statement in OT is pure troll bait
[Off-topic] finalhit:
No. His graph diverges at 1. His graph is actually completely irrelevant to this issue, I don't know why he brought it up. It makes no sense.

You just ignored my post above.

There's an infinite point between your house and McDonalds and yet you can still go to McDonalds.

Clearly infinity doesn't prevent you from getting there...

.999... is the sum of an ever shrinking distance between your house and McDonalds. I'm not joking. If there is 1 unit of distance between your house and mcd, .9... is exactly that distance, therefore .9...=1
[Off-topic] gagdude:
Like I said, High School.

He is not a genius. Trig and Calc is simple math.

He does not have a Math phD like me, so if there's anybody you should listen to it's me. Just some teacher certification that allows him to teach.

Anyways... did anyone read my post proving .99999 = 1? Please respond to that as I have just used Pre Algebra to do so.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Uncut troll-bait would be deleted ASAP, has to be at least 25% cut to not disappear.
[Off-topic] finalhit:
Do Ithink I am better than you at math, yes. So? That doesn't prove me wrong.

Notice how I've quoted everyone's argument and stated why they are wrong. Which is how arguments should work.

You on the other hand just did it again. You just took my arguments and simply said it doesn't work...or I disagree.

What does " its just that they don't necessarily make .999999...=1" mean?

Why don't they work. Please prove it.

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Someone has already made that argument.

I look forward to his reply of

"I disagree" and watch you pull your hair out :)

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[Off-topic] coincoin4ever:
All of you who dont understand the simple equality 0.9999... = 1 why dont you listen to the maths seniors here ?

Anyone who has is doing advanced maths study even PhD in maths or candidate tell you you are wrong. Although you can learn that in high school, you seriously don't know what you are talking about and you are still arguing with wrong statements.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
That's strange. Its seems that you know my math teacher as those statements can only be made if you knew the guy.

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I disagree to what? He didn't give a proof in that post. Are you on drugs?

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Just because somebody has a Ph.D doesn't mean they're automatically correct. Scientist who have Ph.D are absolute idiots.

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Here guys. I have proof that .99999... doesn't equal 1

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[Off-topic] finalhit:
Nice...he just used the you're stupid argument. He used that on me as well. Definitely proves that .9... != 1.

Please see post 469.

And yes all scientist with PhDs are absolute idiots.

Good God almighty.

Although he hit one thing right, argumentum ad verecundiam is not a valid argument.

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Here is proof that .99999... doesn't equal 1

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[Off-topic] finalhit:
This is your proof as to why .9... != 1?

0.9999... × 10 = 9.999999...

0.9999... × (9+1) = 9.999999... [by distribution rule:]

0.9999... × 9 + 0.99999.... × 1 = 9.99999....

0.9999... × 9 = 9.9999....-0.999999 = 9

0.9999... × 9 = 9

0.9999... = 1

Ummm...Lol wut? You're aware this actually proves it right?

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
I can't believe a high school freshman trusts his math teacher more than someone with a doctorate

If a phD means nothing, then I'm sure a teacher certification is total sh!t

I used to look up at my math teacher that way. But when you surpass them you realize they aren't what they seem to be

As I reached the level of what a teacher gets in school, I thought damn...

I'm sure if you get a phD in physics or even major in english, you will realize how little physics or english your teacher knows.

For now, live your life and argue a proven fact, you are young as goddammit teens think they know everything. It p!sses me off.

Josepho, I understand you really like your math teacher, but sometimes they are wrong. Heck, my friend when I was a freshman LOVED to prove his teachers wrong all the time. Personally I felt bad for them since a 9th grader was totally stumping them but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
[Off-topic] veeman:
Wat... but you just proved that it does equal 1. :confused:
[Off-topic] finalhit:
Omg!!!!!###!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111 ikr

This is the most annoying debate in history. What is wrong with this kid?

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
See, he thinks he knows everything and really believes .999 != 1

But in reality he has no proof and no idea what he is saying

Teens.
[Off-topic] coincoin4ever:
LOL.

go tell that to your math teacher who is not able to have one.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
When I was in 7th grade, both my science and math teacher had a Ph.D. They were fired as the students always failed their class and learned nothing. So I'm hesitant to believe Ph.D's. I don't think I know everything, I know I know everything. Can you prove that proof I posted wrong?

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That's strange. That wasn't the proof I posted. Here it is:
[Off-topic] finalhit:
No I can't prove what you posted is wrong.what you posted is absolutely right.

Why don't you believe it?

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Your new proof still proves .9...=1

Trollingorstupud.jpg

Is this real life?

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[Off-topic] coincoin4ever:
good teaching doesnt mean to have to be good in maths.

And I think the best teachers are the one who can take the place of the student. They can explain better for the student point of view.

These teachers were maybe bad teachers but at least they know what they were talking about.

You cant imagine the difference between maths you learn in high schools and real maths.

and lol again to your demonstrations. They prove that 0.9999 = 1. You dont even understand what you are saying. :')

edit : oh man you are trying to edit your mistakes
[Off-topic] gagdude:
No dude, when I was little and lived with both my parents with PhDs, they always tried to teach me stuff.

I learned better from my math teacher anyways. Why?

BECAUSE THEY HAVE A TEACHER CERTIFICATION. They friggin know how to teach, but PhDs just know stuff, but are terrible teachers. They're better off as professors since their students are at a much higher level.

Anyways, ever thought that maybe they were fired for grading too hard? Too high expectations? But it's probably for being bad teachers.

No I'm not a teacher. And if I was a middle school teacher, Id hang myself because middle schoolers don't know anything! (Of course I'm being harsh here, but seriously)
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Sorry. Wrong proof. Here's the correct one:

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[Off-topic] finalhit:
You've once again proven that .9...=1

I think your math and English teacher should be fired.

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
That proof also says .99999=1.....xD

Ever thought of using your own thinking instead of copying and pasting someone elses proof that actually goes in our favor?

Edit: also, do you even know what that proof is saying? $100 you don't know what it means
[Off-topic] finalhit:
I just went from frustrated to sad. Pray tell may I ask what state you're from? Mississippi?

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Again! Dang it. My kindle is messing with me. Here's is the correct one(hopefully)

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[Off-topic] finalhit:
Trollingorstupid.jpg

Do you not read you posts before you hit send?

Dont blame it on the kindle. You are wrong.

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[Off-topic] hatcyl:
x = .9r

x/10 = .9r (same trick you used, move over the decimal point once to the left and you still have .9r, it's just not the same repeating any more)

If x = 1 then

1/10 = .1

1/10 != .9r

Therefore x != 1
[Off-topic] coincoin4ever:
Josepho the trollolo !!!!!

thanks to this awesome topic I have passed the 10 posts limit. Thank you guys having a wonderful time here.

and the magical trick begins !!

anyway gagdude proof is not really a good one since it relies on the "..." but it is good enough for people who dont know anything in maths.

Is it so hard to understand ?

We learn that in high school.

@gagdude what was your thesis subject ?
[Off-topic] finalhit:
.9r/10 != .9r

Its .099999...

You are bad at math

Although, 1/10 = .1 = .09999...

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
There is something you and gagdude need to know

1)Everybody in OT is a troll.

2)Don't trust anybody. Don't believe anything they post, no matter how believable it sounds. No matter how realistic it may be. No matter how angry they get. No matter how stupid they seem. Because they may just be trolling you... :p

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[Off-topic] finalhit:
I see...You weren't horribly wrong...You were just trolling. Awesome..Yea me too

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[Off-topic] finalhit:
Is hactyl going to claim that he's just trolling as well?

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[Off-topic] hatcyl:
No, just stupid honest mistake. I don't have a math PHD but I'll prove .99... != 1.
[Off-topic] Deadly:
Hush hush... trolling is still going on.. its not yet time to everyone to just accept...

Such a nice thread coming to end.. and I didn't finish my popcorn yet:(

**Nothing is True... Everything is Permitted**

Muffins.. muffins everywhere!
[Off-topic] gagdude:
Why am I arguing with you? I didn't use some magic trick, I multiplied .9r by 10, thus moving the decimal right by one space.

Since you divided, you move the decimal over to the left one space, making .9r/10 = .09r

*facepalm* and I learned this in elementary school

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Ok let's see your proof
[Off-topic] gagdude:
I didn't write a thesis. I wrote a dissertation. Just pulled it out

"a theoretical study of bubble motion in surfactant solutions"

NASA funded my research

I'm going to flip to a random page, take a picture of it, and if you don't understand it, stop arguing with me since you are not in my league ;)
[Off-topic] finalhit:
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[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
*thanks*

exactlly my feeling lol
[Off-topic] hatcyl:
Ok, then. I'll have to agree with you. If I come up with a counter argument I'll PM you.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I messed up. You win! I believe you.
[Off-topic] veeman:
Yay! We have a convert!
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I don't believe in any of this. Math doesn't exist. :mad:

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[Off-topic] finalhit:
We get it, you were trolling all along. Everyone totally believes you.

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
No. I'm serious. Math doesn't really exist.

http://forums.philosophyforums.com/threads/math-does-not-exist-42801.html

http://www.mymathforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=18459

http://www.wontonway.com/math/nomath.htm

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[Off-topic] veeman:
Good Luck in college :) :good: :D
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
You can't prove something doesn't exist, only that it does. That's why I'm a pastafarian.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Nevermind. Physics exist. Math doesn't.

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
Did you just Google "math does not exist" and pasted threads? 0.o

And wontonway.com sure is a credible site
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Maybe...

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[Off-topic] veeman:
Physics is mathematics applied to the real world.

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
Lol :D
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
What is wontonway.com anyways?

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[Off-topic] veeman:
Lol, oh you. You're funny. XD

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
Well, wonton is a Chinese dish typically served as a soup...
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Just for the record, time doesn't exist either.

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/in-no-time

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=65439

http://www.robsworld.org/notime.html

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=is-time-an-illusion

http://www.toequest.com/forum/time-travel/2055-time-does-not-exist.html

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=65439

http://d1002391.mydomainwebhost.com/JOT/Editorials/Vol-3/e3-1.htm

http://satyacolombo.com/time-does-not-exist/

http://open.salon.com/blog/jeffreyseeds/2011/12/07/breaking_news_time_does_not_exist

http://scienceforums.com/topic/267-time-does-not-exist/

http://physics.about.com/od/timetravel/f/doestimeexist.htm

http://www.theidproject.org/blog/neil-roberts/2012/09/21/time-does-not-exist

http://www.grahameb.com/realitycheck/?p=425

http://infinite712.hubpages.com/hub/Time-doesnt-Exist

http://scienceforums.com/topic/1902-time-doesnt-exist/
[Off-topic] gagdude:
I'm sure somebody didn't know what
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
It true. Its not "Impossibru!"

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
Fcuk you does this mean my entire time spent in grad school means nothing?
[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
Nevermind BMW's exist. Cars don't

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*thanks*
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Apparently

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
Ok yeah now I'm bored the fact that math and time doesn't exists is purely theoretical. I obviously don't agree with the authors
[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
heres a life tip: think before you act

especially when you are shelling out large amounts of money for nothing and depriving yourself of 4 years when you could be having the time of your life during the next 4 years. YOLO
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
YODO

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[Off-topic] veeman:
YODA

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
YOGA

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[Off-topic] veeman:
PANTS

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
RANTS

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[Off-topic] prototype7:
Well f*ck. You're right. I still don't completely understand it, but I'll believe it for now because it makes more sense than a perfectly valid equation (10x=9.999... and all that) not working at all, and I haven't seen any mathematical proof for the other side. Was a fun argument :p
[Off-topic] gagdude:
RALTS (pokemon anybody?)

Back to ya bud.

This thread has definitely gone off topic though....
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Pokemon!!! :D

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[Off-topic] veeman:
Yes! Another convert!

It is a good day for the .99999... Group my friends.

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[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
so .9999999 does equal 1?
[Off-topic] veeman:
Tis so.

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
No. But nobody feels like doing the proofs to prove so.

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
.999999=1

Like prototype7 said, there's no longer any mathematical evidence for the other side
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
As of now. Maybe someday there will be a counter-proof.

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
actually, Id love to see that

It would be quite the breakthrough
[Off-topic] veeman:
+1

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
What would be a real breakthrough would be the discovery of a unicorn. (Would it be "an unicorn"? It doesn't sound right) I would love to see that.

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
Guys, I think I've located the source of our off topicness :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Like you wouldn't pay to see that. :p

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
Since we're off topic enough, why are they called "unicorns?"

I mean, what's up with the corn

Do they call bulls and oxen and antelope and moose duocorns?
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
In Latin, "cornu" means horn.

You'll find the earliest recognizable predecessor of today's "unicorn" in Late Latin's "unicornis," meaning "one horn." That evolved into "unicorne" in Middle English. We dropped the "e" and, voila, unicorn!

(Sources: answers.yahoo.com)

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[Off-topic] xaccers:
Cornus is Latin for horn.

Unicorn is a translation of the Greek Monoceros, which probably had it's origins in the Hebrew re'em.
[Off-topic] gagdude:
0.o OK.

Stilll, then shouldn't oxen, bulls, moose, antelope, etc be called duocorns?

:p
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
No. Because unicorns are fictitious creatures.

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
What about the phoenix

shouldn't it be called duowing

XD just messing with ya guys
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
But phoenix's are real. :confused:

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
So are unicorns
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Blasphemer! Unicorns have not revealed themselves to mankind yet.

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
I saw one. It even talked to me! :eek:
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
They've revealed themselves?! Holy crap, where are all of the bronies?

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[Off-topic] prototype7:
You guys might be done with all the fun, but I just started this thread on another website :p;)
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Give me the link!

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
Me too. I want a chance to watch instead of participate in that thread.

*popcorn ready*
[Off-topic] prototype7:
Lulz. Let the trolling commence. http://www.eq2flames.com/something-else-everything-else/95259-9999-1-a.html
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I really want to watch one. Maybe there will be some trolls too! :fingers-crossed:

There is already a post! According to him, this is third grade math.

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
Bwahahahaha!

"Yes.

Welcome to 3rd grade math"

Anyways I've bookmarked the page, hope it gets more users in >=D