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[Nokia Lumia 920] Loco5150:
Here from WMPoweruser:

Winfuture.de reports the Nokia Lumia 920 will be released in Germany in mid-October and will retail for 600 Euro ($758, £476).

The Austrian art magazine ‘Future Zone‘ reported that Nokia wants to deliver the Lumia 920 from the middle of October in Germany. They expect the handset to initially launch only in a few countries, much like the roll-out of the Nokia Lumia 800, before being available everywhere.

The handset will be introduced first in Germany, France, Britain, Italy and Russia, before becomes available in late October in Poland. The Scandinavian countries, Portugal and Spain will receive the handset a short time later.

The Nokia Lumia 820 will follow 2 weeks later in the same markets and will retail for around 450 Euro ($568, £357).

Of note is that the Samsung Galaxy S III 16 GB without LTE is 580 Euro, making the 32 GB LTE Nokia Lumia 920 very price competitive.

A cheaper version of the Lumia 920 without LTE will also be available.

Via Winfuture.de.

Source: http://wmpoweruser.com/european-nokia-lumia-920-priced-and-dated/
[Nokia Lumia 920] theomni:
This phone will definitely be subsidized under contract with phone companies (speaking of US)

As for AT&T USA, I'm thinking this phone should sell for $100-$200.
[Nokia Lumia 920] ohgood:
"price competitive" (which requires signing a 2 year contract AND possible etf's) isn't good enough to entice folks already comfortable with their respective platforms.

the s3 has a very good reputation. the 920 has..... what?
[Nokia Lumia 920] Mesho Arc:
Lumia 920 looks great and packs good specs, hopefully price would be lower than the estimates.
[Nokia Lumia 920] katamari201:
Only 25g heavier? LoL. That can mean the difference between a featherweight and a brick. It's all relative, especially when you get past 140g.
[Nokia Lumia 920] Loco5150:
Today in news here in Finland, new Lumia's would be available around mid-November. First countries would be getting them in the beginning of month and so on.
[Nokia Lumia 920] Rocklee99:
Will the Nokia 920 come to sprint...they need tooo
[Nokia Lumia 920] lovenokia:
I want a heavier phone lol
[Nokia Lumia 920] agp64:
The iphone 4s is 140g how heavy do you think the 5 will be? Looks like it will be a brick as well.

If you have two normal ink pens handy pick them up to get an idear of the extra bulk you would need to carry.
[Nokia Lumia 920] Tuffcheez:
I'm a diehard android user but have watched my wife with her 800. I am seriously going to give the 920 a look.
[Nokia Lumia 920] katamari201:
I have a galaxy note and thats 178g. It's manageable, but once I put a TPU case on it, it becomes noticeably heavy. God forbid I try to put that metal backplate on it that I scrapped because it was bulgy and than put a TPU case around the whole thing. The Lumia 920 is even heavier than the note, and denser. TPU cases are already the lightest thing you can use for a case. Leather or hard plastic will be even heavier. There's a threshold where the weight goes from being premium heavy to just cheap brick heavy. Heavy doesn't mean sturdy btw, otherwise my 10lb super thick dell laptop wouldn't be falling into pieces just by sitting at a desk with the occasional screen adjustment.
[Nokia Lumia 920] mafu6:
25g WOW! I think i might need an extra strong belt to wear to stop my pants falling down........

And as for holding it I think my two hands might not be enough....
[Nokia Lumia 920] ohgood:
thank you.
[Nokia Lumia 920] huismeester:
Microsoft has not all show

so it is possible that there is a chance that skype is intergrated

Nokia could not show everything from microsoft that was not allowed
[Nokia Lumia 920] agp64:
One of the reasons I like the Lumia 800 and 900 is there really is no need for a case.(Hope the 920 is the same) I find it amazing that everybody carries on about how slim they want their phones to be, But then go and place a thick case on their phone to protect it.

Both my 800 and 900 have been accidently dropped on a tile floor buy my 7 year old and are both are still working like a dream. Then again most of the Nokia phones I have owned over the years seem to be able to take a bit of a beating. Shame they are not able to survive a swim though. :laugh:

What ever phone I choose next will be without a case as well, (thinking the yellow 920 is looking good).
[Nokia Lumia 920] OndraSter:
Skype will not be integrated, but it will be separate app. And you might have heard that VoIP applications will be able to deeply integrate.
[Nokia Lumia 920] katamari201:
Uhh, actually no. People who buy cases are just paranoid freaks, and slimmer phones freak them out even more. The case companies are happy to oblige them though. The lumias have their own assortment of cases. No freak gets left behind. There's really no scientific proof that the lumia phones are stronger or more resilient than the rest beyond the typical fanboy logic or specious thickness/weight natural leanings. You should go watch the One X tumble in a dryer or the GS III get dragged behind a car. They all have gorilla glass. All high-end phones have gorilla glass. The screen is the most vulnerable and important part, and all are equally crackable. The lumia phones are no exception. If you want a phone that can survive a swim, the Japanese companies like Sony and Toshiba have your back. Not to mention the specifically rugged made phones made by Samsung, Motorola, etc.

Yes there's a wide world out there besides Nokia.
[Nokia Lumia 920] go0gle:
can someone enlighten me ..

Why is the lumia rated so much higher in 2G / 3G talk time when both phones use identical SoCs .. Can't be Windows NT alone, can it?

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4967&idPhone2=4803

The Nokia is much better equipped in terms of radios as well..

As far as the weight.. 185 is high for sure. My phone, even tho its a smaller "footprint" overal, its still at 170 grams, and I rearly don't feel it in my pocket, so 185 with those dimensions, ya.. I dunno.
[Nokia Lumia 920] lumpaywk:
It is quite a beast that's for sure and the only reason i hesitate. If they had made the 820 with unibody as well i would of gone for that. I currently have the 800 instead of the 900 and feel its the better choice out of this gen. That said though everything else makes be want it badly like that camera - I have messed up so many great shots with my kids due to a rubbish camera. I also like the wireless charging as I hate messing with cables.
[Nokia Lumia 920] go0gle:
The 800 is probably the best ergonomic design out there, and if it wasn't for the WP buttons (nokia N9), its even better.. so coming from that, you would find it hard to find anything even close to it with a bigger screen, the only other ones I can think of are Sony Xperia P, iPhone 5, and the Nokia N9, non of which are WP8 devices.

I wonder if Nokia will make a 4 incher .. I really hope so.

As far as the camera, it should be on par with GS3/iphone 4s/5 .. hopefully :) Shame they couldn't use that monster sensor from the 808, that thing acts like a proper camera most of the time.
[Nokia Lumia 920] Turbotab:
As long as it can run as a background task, like any decent OS, then I'll be happy.
[Nokia Lumia 920] nMIK-3:
That has been confirmed. So Skype and other similar apps that needs to be "awake" in the background will be able to do that in WP8 :cowboy:
[Nokia Lumia 920] Turbotab:
Anybody disappointed with the 820's resolution / screen size, I mean 800 x 480 is so 2011:laugh: I guess they had to differentiate it from the 920, I just wished they kept the screen size at 3.7 inches, would have been perfect.

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I pretty much thought so, but I need to see it running to believe it. I've been evaluating Windows 8 Enterprise recently, which has led me to question Microsoft's clarity of thought / sanity:laugh:
[Nokia Lumia 920] nikzDHD:
German site has it listed for pre order for €649.99. Very pricey considering. Cheaper than the iPhone but more expensive than high end android phones.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
For those interested.

http://www.noreve.com/product_info.php?products_id=2613
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] tommyschw:
Nice but...

Nice, but expensive!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Agreed. They're known for being pricey.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] globalgpj:
Great. Thanks for posting this.

I have had Noreve cases before....they are always very high quality leather.

I like the thiness.

Very tempting ! :)

I just bought this one 4 days ago. It's a ROCK.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ROCK-tex...6?pt=AU_TabletAccessories&hash=item257507249a

Update:

Couldn't resist, I just bought it ! :)

It's perfectly designed in my opinion. I don't think one will find a better case. Much better than Samsung's case.

Since I purchased several items before from Noreve, they gave me a special certificate and I got a $23.00 discount. It only cost me AUD $70.00. :)

I will mostly likely sell my ROCK case !
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] leepriestenator:
How do you like the Rock Case? Any good? What about the insides? Any chance it will scratch up the finish of the Note because the edges don't look very soft.

Also, does it hold on nice and tight? I noticed there is a strap on the back; how exactly do you get it to wrap around the front? Couldn't find any videos for it.

What color is yours? I'd be interested in picking it up if you can ship overseas.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] tonyz3:
Rock Case---Ebay US has it up on there site. I ordered from there last week- Shipped from China. I should have it in a few days and will post some comments and pix. I like the look of the Rock case.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] oznick:
Could you post a couple of photos when you get it?

I was actually planning on buying one for myself, but now that I've checked out the pictures on their website, I'm not that impressed. :( Their case for Galaxy Tab 2 seemed a bit more premium than this, in my view...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] globalgpj:
It hasn't arrived yet. Should be here any day now.

I believe the strap is made of some sort of elastic as a photo shows it being wrapped around the case on their ebay sites.

I got the grey coloured one. I'll report back about your concerns about the possibility of scratches on the device.

Yes, I'll post some pictures when it arrives. But the site says that it is not due until the 13th.

Didn't see the Tab one. But I haven't really seen anything better that's real leather and is designed with all the important design features that are really important to me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] leepriestenator:
The biggest thing going for the Noreve IMO, besides the fantastic quality is the all around protection it offers the device around the bezel area. Most of the other cases that look good seem to just cover the device at the corners.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] HasC:
I was waiting for the Samsung case but could not resist this case, it really does look awesome. I noticed on the site that they had two styles but I chose the one on the Op's link as I did not want one with a magnetic fastener.

The site advised that they manufacture/hand make it within 14 days. I ordered the dark brown one, they call it Châtaigne.

I really hope I won't be disappointed with this case.

Edit: link below shows both designs:

http://www.noreve.com/advanced_search_result.html?keywords=Samsung+galaxy+note+10.1&x=0&y=0
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Congrats. I'm holding out for an even pricier number posted on the cases thread. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] HasC:
Mmm...let me guess, does the name of the case you want rhyme with "penis" :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
LOL it might, I honestly don't remember. Just remember seeing it and a price tag. I immediately fainted.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] billydeath:
I just ordered the sable vintage version of the case linked in the OP's post. I was thinking I'd order the Zenu case, but as it's not yhet available, and I wasn't overly keen on the embossing all over it, I think this one will do the trick.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] HasC:
Here, let me remind you, must admit, this is the Ferrari of all cases so far :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3GNVY9hdo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sorry for going off topic but even I had to remind myself of this case.

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Which one is that?, the one I ordered is from the "ambition" selection, the second one after the black one.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] billydeath:
It's the "exception" selection, second one along.

If you click on it and expand have a look at the opened page, there's some examples of each styles with review pages. I looked at the one for the Sable Vintage section by tabletpccorner.net (would post the link but I can't post links yet - too new...). The photos in this review "sold" me on the look.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] HasC:
Nice choice, I was also looking at that one but went for the other one because it seems more durable although this one does have some serious class !
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
That's the one. Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
After looking at the current selection of Zenus cases, I'm back on the Noreve bandwagon. Good looking to a fault, and classic.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] globalgpj:
These are the photos of the Noreve case.

It's the one I've ordered.

I saw the other options of leather cases, but I stayed with the original.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] WPMan:
Please share some photos when you get yours, especially the port and stylus openings.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] globalgpj:
Forgot one photo.

Here you go.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] californiarailroader:
There are two for the Note 10.1 from Noreve, the Tradition and the Tradition B-

http://www.noreve.com/langue/en/product/Samsung_Galaxy_Note_10.1_Tradition_leather_case.html Tradition

http://www.noreve.com/langue/en/product/Samsung_Galaxy_Note_10.1_Tradition_B_leather_case.html Tradition B
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] globalgpj:
Yes, I saw that. I personally didn't like the Tradition B style.

The regular tradition was perfect enough for me. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
That's the one I'm going for, too. Nice, simple, understated class.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] WPMan:
I sent them an email and asked if I can have a sample of their case (since I run a blog) and they agreed. They will send me one Tradition B case in 10 days.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
I hate you. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] WPMan:
I'll share photos of the case when it arrives. =)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Definitely not the case I want, but I hate you anyway. :p
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] californiarailroader:
The same here.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] mi7chy:
Not a fan of anything inside the front cover that could potentially scratch the screen so in this regard prefer the original over the B version.

What texture did you guys get? Leather looks nice but scratches and develops wear spots faster than suede, etc.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] HasC:
I went for the ambition range which is leather but hopefully more durable than the standard one shown on this thread. The closest match is demoed on an iPad 2 although I am hoping it is dark brown, one of the pictures on the link shows it to be quite light but I think it's due to the flash of the camera. Have a look at the link below (it's in French by the way):

http://www.tablette-tactile.net/tes...pad-2-de-noreve-un-etui-haute-couture-111144/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] globalgpj:
I had one of their traditional/standard leather ones before on a smartphone and it held up pretty good. I don't recall any major scratches or marks, as Noreve uses quality leather and a high quality finish.

If I was going to be really rough with my device, I guess I would go for the ambition or pebble grain look. I think suede will get too dirty quickly on a large device.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] kman79:
For those that ordered the noreve case, how long from time of ordering to time of delivery?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Ernthelfer:
Hey,

I've ordered my Tradition B (Exception Leather in dark vintage) yesterday.

Will post pictures when delivered.

I need creditcard slots and possibilities to store documents in the case.

Greetings,

Jens from Germany
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] globalgpj:
Not sure. Generally they are quite prompt. I have ordered mine before they got them in stock. Now the site says they are in stock now, but I haven't received an email stating they shipped the case. I'll send them a quick email. They ship by DHL, so it should be quick.

I'll let everyone know when it arrives.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] HasC:
I have been quoted 14 days by them.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] driekus33:
Still deciding between the noreve and the zenus. Both look to be very high quality.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
The Noreve is leather, the Zenus is not. The Zenus is pretty pricey for synthetic. I was interested initially, but not anymore.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] driekus33:
I am starting to lean towards the Noreve. Has anyone had experience with both brands and care to compare them?

Edit:

I ordered the Noreve case. About $100 CAD but looks to be worth it in my opinion
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Timing is just off for me at the moment. Let us know how you like yours. A full-on review would be great. Meanwhile, if I can get caught up a bit, I'll order it. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] DaRacerz:
Anyone who has this case can comment on how much bulk is added? Is it 1/4 in? 1/8 in?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Just noticed this leather sleeve on the Noreve site. Looks great. I'm on the verge of ordering the Tradition case. Very juicy case.

http://www.noreve.com/langue/en/product/Tradition_Fidelis_11-inch_leather_sleeve.html
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] HasC:
That sleeve is juicy! , I want it but I've already ordered my noreve case :(
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
It is. Sadly, I already have a great sleeve and I want the case more than the sleeve. Leather-leather would be overkill. :-/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] tonyz3:
yeah but wouldn't it make it.......... wait for it...............

DOUBLE JUICY. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] HasC:
Stop it, both of you, your tempting me!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
I'm trying to be strong and you're NOT helping! :(

If you look closely you can see me weakening. :eek:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] globalgpj:
I've ordered mine on the 6th of Sept and they replied the other day that they will send my case next week. I'm amazed they are taking so long.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Nefariouss:
I hear you can get cheap machine crafted cases on Amazon with two day shipping for $8.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
It will be worth the wait, I feel sure.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] HasC:
l ordered on the 9th September and have not yet had an email from them. It should arrive by the 28th September if they are true to their word. They advised that my order is an on-demand order that will take 15 working days to be delivered.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] driekus33:
Has anyone got shipping confirmation yet?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] WPMan:
Try emailing them.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] globalgpj:
I just got another reply from Noreve. They said they are so sorry, but my September 6th order is delayed another week. They say they have been overwhelmed with orders for this model.

What to do ?

One more week, that's all I'm giving them.

Weird, because on Sept 13 or 15th they said Available, on their site. Go figure !
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] driekus33:
I will give them until Monday before I email them. If the delay is significant I will cancel the order and grab one of the zenus cases.

Good luck globalgpj and let me know how it goes.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] HasC:
I've emailed them for a refund as mine was supposed to be delivered by today and they gave me the same reason about being overwhelmed with orders.

In the meantime I have purchased the original Samsung book cover and an anti shock case as I could not wait for more delays.

The other day I had it in an old notebook sleeve and another bag, thought that the strap was around my shoulder whilst sitting in the car, when I stood up, the bag dropped and I thought oh s#1t ! Did not open the bag till I got home and looked at the tablet for damage one I got indoors. I noticed from the point where the impact happened ,caused the back cover to become loose so I pushed it back into place and thankfully there were no scratches or damage caused.

Because of this incident, I quickly ordered the stuff above and am thinking that it's a good combination and probably don't need the noreve case even though it's a classy case.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] HasC:
Looks like I will not be receiving a refund from them, as they have slapped a one liner response followed by their terms and conditions about not refunding unless done within 24hrs of ordering or after 30 days of not receiving. I have posted their latest response after my email to them requesting a refund to make fellow buyers aware of the company and their practices. Names have been removed for their privacy:

Noreve' s response to my request for a refund :

"Dear Valued Customer,

Thank you for your message. The end of the delay is on Monday.

As mentionned on our Sales terms and conditions, “No cancellation will be accepted after 24 hours are past, unless delivery is not made within 30 working days of the date of purchase”.

I wish you a very good day,

My best regards,

Customer Care Department / Service Client

Innovacases - Noreve St.Tropez Haute Couture for Mobile Devices

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My response to them:

"Dear ...name removed...

Thank you for your response.

I am sorry to hear that I will not be getting a refund or even a discount due to inconvenience caused however I would like to make the following points:

The terms do not say due to delays caused by the company and refers to delivery times. I am a regular writer on forums and often write about how good or bad a company is with regards to quality and service.

I will be writing on these forums to advise potential buyers about my first experience with Noreve and am sorry to say that I will not be recommending Noreve as a good company to be doing business with for the following reasons:

1. Advertising that cases on special order will be delivered within 14 working days. Clearly this is not the case.

2. Not keeping customers informed that there will be delays unless the customer contacts them to chase. It is common courtesy that a good organisation keeps their customers informed.

3. Writing one line emails to advise that the end of the delay is Monday, what does that mean? It will be completed on Monday or sent out for delivery on Monday?

4. There are a number of other members on the forums also advising that their cases have not been delivered. I would also be asking them to provide their feedback so that their poor experiences can be publicised.

I wish you a good day.

My best regards"
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] tonyz3:
yikes. They basical advertised one thing just to take your money than pulled the rug out from you while they have you by the b@!!$.

Um... kind on reminds me of a guy living in a big

white house

. :D

Good luck

On another noter i have a great ROCK case i will sell you cheap.