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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Exactly.

Maximum Overdrive has been allowing users to run 50 or more apps for weeks now.

But many users are running 30 something or 40 something because that's how much their ram allows.

Not a single report of running out of ram.

Oh and setting maximum apps to 8 is actually doing nothing - that's the default value.

Process priority.

You mean the BulletProof Apps feature in the SuperCharger script that I came up with last year?

If so, then the answer is yes.

Lowmemorykiller does whatever you set it to do.

If you want to set it so low that you run out of ram, then that's what will happen.

Therefore, it helps if you know what you're doing.

The device becomes sluggish if ram gets before a certain level of free ram.

The trick is to find what value that is.

And set LMK values accordingly so you don't go below that level.

Setting LMK too high wont bring any performance benefit and would detract from multitasking.

From my OP:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Ok I did a little tweaking.

I think that the HTC_RECENT_APP_FUSION setting was playing a factor in things and I don't want it to... so I pretty much made it a non-factor.

It may even increase the number of apps showing up in recent tasks.

Attached are modded services.jars from:

Edit: Okay updated jar files are on the next page over here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31729898#post31729898

There was an issue with distorted thumbnails and quite frankly, I didn't expect to have it fixed.. never mind this fast LOL
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] baknblack:
Dumb ? can I replace the jar file in android while it's running or is this done with adb?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
yep.

if you forget or don't get a chance to do permissions, just do it after the reboot

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btw, what's a sense 4.0 based rom? Viper4G 1.0.0?

So far I've only been messin with Sense 4.1 so need to see if there's any big difference.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fachadick:
Yes - Viper4G 1.0.0 is a sense 4.0 based rom
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Thanks.

Yep it's a just a little different.

For example it doesn't have the "before-previous" adj setting that 4.1 has... how the hell can something be "before previous" anyway?

That's nonsense :p

but luckily, when I write the script to patch Sense, it would work no different - same changes apply for both.

It doesn't look like Sense 3.6 doesn't have all this extra limit crap so no need to worry about that on Sense 3.6 :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mrlakadaddy:
Viper 4g is being updated soon to 4.1
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Are you on viper?

Maybe I should put one up for that
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
hey zeppe, the new mod seems to work better, the images in recent app menu now are distorted which causes the app the refresh when you click on the picture from the recent app list. but so far it doesnt look like anything is closing out. i will continue to test tonight and keep a close eye on my memory and how many apps are closing on me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Oh really.

That's odd.

The TaskRecord.smali uses the HTC_RECENT_APP_FUSION in relation to thumbnails... the class file has this:

if ((HTC_RECENT_APP_FUSION) && (!this.visible) && (this.lastThumbnail != null))
this.lastThumbnail = null;

I was guessing that if I made the statement false (since that fusion setting no longer has a value), then "this.lastThumbnail" won't be nulled ie. it won't stop making thumbnails.

Do more than 8 apps show up in the recent list?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
Right now it shows I have opened 7 user apps, which is right. I ran for 20 min and facebook was last on the list. While listening to songza I opened facebook and xda and had 0 app reload

Just went nuts and opened almost every app...only 8 show
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Awesome :)

Pretty sure you were getting lots of reloads before, right?

Hoping that you can run at least 15 apps now... lol

I updated previous page with viper4g services.jar
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
Yea facebook would have definitely reloaded by now. Now bc the thumbnails are distorted the apps look funny for a sec when clicked on through the recent apps list.

Will continue to test through out the rest of the day
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Ah... I see that HTC_RECENT_APP_FUSION is referenced somwhere else too... should have done a better search before.

In ActivityStack there's a big ass thing about thumbnails using the fusion parameter in an if/else condition... gotta wipe that out so it will make the nice thumbs again
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
And then that should solve the rest of the reloading hopefully. :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Ok try this

I did more ProcessList edits and messed with ActivityStack.

Damn I hope I remember everything that I do lol

Edit: Okay may as well make this the new post for downloading updated versions

=======================================

The HTC_RECENT_APP_FUSION setting was indeed playing a factor in things.

Previous jars had a thumbnail display problem so it's fixed with these.

Attached are modded services.jars from:

ICS Tranquility RLS3

MeanROM 4.3

Viper4G 1.0.0

Previous info still applies...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
the thumbnails are now fixed zeppe and back to normal...you are the man! thanks for taking the time out to fix this phone lol :highfive:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Wow... that was lucky ;)

I was a bit worried about the bootloop.

So that's fixed... any idea about how many apps you keep in memory and how low the free ram can get?

edit: and thank you for helping me fix ALL phones running Sense 4+ :cool:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
before the fixed version, i got down to 116 meg free i believe. i had 0 apps reloads...(the recent apps list still only showed 8 for me) but facebook got to the last one and didn't reload, and that was the app that always did.

sense did reload before i could make the changes in the terminal but it came back up and rebuilt my dalvick cache on its own...btw in the terminal i typed everything in that you said and it didnt show anything (like changed or anything) i just pressed enter and it went to the other line, i assume it worked still

edit: i do what i can :) i always used you supercharger scripts but up until now it didnt seem to do anything on this phone and was just giving me more memory but the app reloads were still there

---------- Post added at 06:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:37 PM ----------

HTC should hire you to do all there memory management lol

---------- Post added at 06:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:39 PM ----------

i just checked my phone after rebooting, and i quickly opened up (play store, facebook, xda app, messages, flipboard, settings and stocks app) not one reload after 45 min. also memory is down to 111 meg free so i am using more memory now.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
that's freaking awesome, yes?

LOL

I'm doing one up for Tranquility/bad seed
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
Yea it's real nice! However just found out the recent app list holds 8 apps still. And once the app leaves the recent apps it seems to get closed. Don't know if it was right after it the phone hit a certain number of apps open
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Ok that's a head scratcher.

Tho it was a secondary concern.

But then again if it automatically gets killed after leaving the list that's not good either :p

But since switching between that many apps doesn't result in a reload, that indicates that they aren't getting closed.

Does V6's boomstick show more apps running than earlier tests?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Yeah seems to be more apps than before... 27 apps with adj 5 and above :D

I believe you had about 20 before.

Also updated this post with Tranquility

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31729898#post31729898
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
the phone finally feels like it is working as android should.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Wow thanks... that really means alot!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
:victory: i was hopeing that one day the multitasking thing would be fixed lol.,....

i did have some app reloads alittle while ago, but my phone has been sitting there doing nothing for about 2 hours now...so i just figured android was killing some older apps at that point
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KaptainRandom:
Sorry to bother with 'holdmyhand' question.

Installing step one,

I should rename original services.jar, adding.bak?

And paste service viper*****.jar, renamed to services.jar?

Then on to step 2...

??????

Thanx in advance.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pimpol10:
Any way to make on for OMJ's rom? Thanks
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Don't rename. You will have no servcies.jar.

Make a copy and rename the copy.

Then overwrite the current one with the new one.

This is why I like scripts... make one script, mod thousands of roms with it instead of modding everything one by one lol

Maybe I can get one up later... I've neglected the SuperCharger thread so gotta check in lol

edit: actually, you didn't post the services.jar. BUT the bad seed or meanrom jars (there is almost no difference between them) that I posted would probably work if you're on sense 4.1.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
a script for sense 4.0+ roms would be awesome, is this fix universal you think...like for newer Rom updates and what not? Or is it specific to this type of services.jar file....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pimpol10:
Thanks! If you can, attached is the service.jar
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Viper's 4.0 Sense and any 4.1 Sense... the same script would do it all.

Doesn't look to be needed on Sense 3.6 as it doesn't have that other max limit setting.

The Ultimat Jar Power Tools patcher script, that currently has both the SuperCharged Launcher and Maximum Overdrive mods, will have the Non-Sense Limit mod too :)

Another user, pepcisko has already made an automated windows exe for it (pulls services.jar, patches, installs...) and he'll update it when I update the script.

I'm gonna have to make a new sister thread to SuperCharger for this Maximum Multitasking Mod... otherwise it would get buried in the monster SuperCharger thread LOL

Use the tranquility/badseed services.jar - it's identical.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KaptainRandom:
Quote,

To install...

1. Copy the new services.jar into your /system/framework folder.

2. In terminal type: su, enter, cd /system/framework, enter, chown 0.0 services.jar, enter, chmod 644 services.jar, enter.

3. Reboot. This will take awhile since it will optimize apps the first time.

end quote,

so, I downloaded viper version, saved to sd card,

Step 1,

In root browser I copied/pasted services.jar into the same folder, it default named copy as services-copy.jar , which I renamed to services.jar.bak

I copied/pasted the viper version into the sd card folder, then renamed it to services.jar then cut from sd card and pasted into /system/framework

it said file already exists and do I want to replace file, cancel, or keep both.

I chose replace, which replaced the original services.jar with the new download file renamed as services.jar

The phone instantly reboot upon pasting the new services.jar.

thru the rebooting, the phone showed the updating android and counted up the apps (200).

then the home launch screen came up blank with only then notification bar on top,

I could pull down the notif bar and access quick settings, but nothing else was accessable.

I had a bit of a panic...

rebooted to TWRP to replace the original services.jar via file browser in TWRP,

alas, TWRP would not show the framework folder in /system.

I was about to restore a NAND, but decided to give it another regular reboot...

It went thru updating android counting only 42 apps, then normal homescreen appeared.

I gave it 5min to settle,

Then went on to step 2...

I opened terminal, typed then commands as shown (4 total), careful to get lowercase and spaces...

closed terminal.

step 3...

reboot...phone did not update android or count up apps...

went right to lockscreen...

unlocked to homescreen...

all apps there...

NOW,

I haven't tested for multitasking yet,

just wanted to present my unusual install symptoms for comments?

did I do it right?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
yeah that's good.

If you didnt do permissions, it would "optimize apps" on every boot hehe...

Ideally you should use the supercharger script.

It will do the OOM grouping fix so that the lowmemorykiller isn't too aggressive.

Anway, I'm sure you know what behaviour you're used to.

See if it's smoother, if you get less reloads, if you can run more apps than before.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
Sounds like it, although mine counted all the apps during the upgrade thing. When I did the terminal things it didn't tell me anything, but I double checked and typed in everything correctly...so I assumed it worked
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pimpol10:
OK, I'll give it a shot and report back within a few days. Question, I honestly just want a little more multitasking and not overkill. I like my free ram, so what would be you suggestion on minifree settings? Thanks again.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KaptainRandom:
thanx...

been using supercharger for several months...

100% supercharged...

with SuperMinFree calc values...

thanx again,

Zeppelin...ROX
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Use the latest SuperCharger script.

It will make a conservatively calculated suggestion.

I ran out of thanks... so thanks man :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pimpol10:
Dumb question? How do I get to terminal to type in: su, enter, cd /system/framework, enter, chown 0.0 services.jar, enter, chmod 644 services.jar, enter??
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fachadick:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jackpal.androidterm&hl=en
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
hmmm zep u know how your doing one for seperate roms, is there one that i can use just for a stock rom? I tried looking back these pages didnt see it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pimpol10:
Just wanted to report back after only a bit of testing. All I did was replace the service.jar file and that's it. Works a lot better now.:good: Open up 6 app ram hoggers and still solid. But when I left it sitting for about 30 mins FB reloaded, not a problem with me at all, that's what I perfer :D Like I said before I don't need to super multitask, just a little bit, with more ram available. I know if I run the V6 script and adjust minifree multitask will improve like others are reporting, but this is already perfect for me. MOST importantly, once I swipe to close the apps, they free up all the memory, no ram stuck in la la land. GREAT! Thanks!! If anything changes, I'll report back.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
What service.jar file did you use? and what rom were u using? Just curious and I'd like to try it
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pimpol10:
tranquility/badseed services.jar On page 14 on omj's v2.0.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] baknblack:
Is it possible to find the code in sense that will allow the user to set a larger number in the developer options? Right now we have standard limit (whatever that is) or a max of 4. I wonder what would happen if sense could be patched to alter the number.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LORD JUNIOR:
Do I have to rename to services.jar before I copy it to system/framework or just copy as is?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] adma84:
You couldn't look back one page??

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=31736687&postcount=151
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] baknblack:
Ok, The stock browser is running great. I've let it disappear off the recent apps list then pulled it up from the app drawer and it's still where i left it. sometimes it gets killed but, i think this has to do with other apps I've run taking so much memory. I do have the OOM settings as low as they'll go in system tuner. The lightest setting in ST.

Mean 4.3 with modified services.jar
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
i believe that is actually a android ICS thing and not a sense thing, it is like that on AOSP roms as well
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeppelinrox:
Here's a new multitasking test services.jar

I tweaked the Time Killer Killer a bit - the time inactivity value remains the same as before but tweaked the mod itself. I think it would work better anyway.

Since all Sense 4.1 services.jars and nearly identical - I'm only doing the one.

For sure it will work on tranquility, meanrom, superlte2 but have a backup plan as usual.

Any more feedback on what you experienced so far would be good :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
sweet all installed fine..i am trying to keep my phone away from me tonight i need to study lol :silly:...but i cant concentrate
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] adma84:
I don't think Mikey has incorporated this jar quite yet, but I think your last one was included in MR3.2, which has been running really well!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
mean rom 3.3.1 has it built in, it is a nightly...i dont think he put in the newest oneyet though
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] adma84:
Sorry, that is the one I meant.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
he just added the new one to his 3.3.3 nightly :), and btw i installed it last night, this morning was surfing facebook and had flipboard open and play store and had 0 reloads. that was after my 100 question test i just took. and everything was still in memory :fingers-crossed:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jediknight36:
Ok, two questions: 1) Im running the latest Meanrom and want to patch it with the services jar. How do I do this?

2) Im used to running super charger, until I switched to meanrom. It started messing with the system so I was advised to un install it. With meanrom, do I need or should I go back and reinstall it? Thanks.

Edit: Page 4.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] {SBR}_L3GION:
installing this on my phone has done wonders for the smoothness of my device. I'm running venom ROM and it runs buttery smooth with new services.jar. Thank you very much
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
Just install mean Rom 4.3.3 and it has the new one built in..

It is a nightly not an official release yet...
[Motorola Photon 4G] amitranjan:
After install font changer app, i am getting network error on every startup. This generally disables the wifi for a couple of minutes but after that everything works fine.. Please help:confused::confused::confused:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] tmarkovski:
Hello,

Does anyone know when we will get official AT&T update for the S3 i474? I tried searching, but I can't find any news specifically for the AT&T version of S3. Could someone please shed some light on this subject?

Thank you
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] expertzero1:
because there is no official update yet bud
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] bradbusa:
it's an sgh-i747
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] danwitherman:
couldn't wait either so i've been trying out the different roms....
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] DUBVGALAXY:
October with the new colors
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] corythug:
This Sunday at 12:37 GMT
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ThatJawn:
Doubt it. That's when they are releasing over seas. US? We won't probably see it until maybe Christmas or sometime after?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] robstunner:
Its coming out the 23rd this month. My friend who works at the apple store told me.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] aabaaf:
Your friend who works for Apple, told you about a Samsung phone? Did they specifically say the US version, or the international version?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] tyshemi:
My friend who works at McDonalds said it be here tomorrow :D
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] robstunner:
No No NO, thats the Cricket SGS3.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Galloway:
That's cause Samsung is the same as Apple...at least that's what Apple says ;)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Red Wolf:
Nuff said :thumbup:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] BaconStep:
No you're wrong. I talked my best friend and he said in a week.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] tyshemi:
See why mods don't like these threads lol to easy. Fyi it may be out this year or next .
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] SaneinOne:
Just flash latest Canadian ROM, eh! If modem is an issue, flash your own stock from repository in forums. ;)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] VtHondaGuy08:
justin bieber says tomorrow.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] sk8trix:
dude just use a port rom theyre stilll good I rather use CM or aokp....althogh all day Ive been using paranoid android ...its pretty dope but going back to cm after the nightly drops
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] stevenca:
just got off the phone with bill gates , he said that steve jobs told him last year that 4.1 would go live on at&t november 15/2012.......guess we will find out....either way NOT SOON ENOUGH :)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] GuestK00450:
I mop the floors over at Burger King during the night shift and I can guarantee that it will be coming out sometime within this month.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktetreault14:
Lol
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] stealthieone:
Well there are issues with roms. Ie like my phone doesn't do lte anymore. Reject list not being there, networking features missing from gallery and video apps. I'm using the latest cm10
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] SupaAvenger79:
Funny I am on CM10 and LTE works darn good in my opinion.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] aabaaf:
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/09/06/first-jelly-bean-ota-leak-for-samsung-sgh-i747m-galaxy-s-iii/#.UEizyWUv8nQ.twitter

So looks like it could be sooner rather than later..........
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] stealthieone:
Can I install that like I did with the cm10 roms?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mpegripper:
i'm just hoping its by the end of the year
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] txpigkiller:
Greatt! Thanks!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] corythug:
Check dev forum for smart guys aristodemos jb rom, it's flash able like cm10. Only flash able zip I've seen thus far.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] skwaLLLL:
As far as i've heard they said that 4.1 will be here at the end of September, 2012.....

I could be wrong though....
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] corythug:
I've read that as well, time will tell.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dano9258:
I switched to CM10 nightly's today until the official OTA comes out, or CM10 gets more stable. Honestly, if CM10 can fix the Facebook sync, get a better Calendar app, and fix the picasa album sync issues, I'll be staying with it. Given that Samsung prolly won't release the official OTA until late this month, and then AT&T will take a couples weeks, I'm guessing there is a good month or two before we see anything.....so fingers crossed for CM10 fixing those issues by then!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] sk8trix:
I completely agree there aare issues with roms, but I meant Official leaks that work better than cm10...btw cm10 though works amazing imo so far even with the few issues I really love the work they have put in they never disappoint me
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dano9258:
It will be hard to switch back to basic features that Touchwiz gives....
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] gunnyman:
My best friend's cousin's girlfriend's brother saw the update passed out at 31 flavors last night....
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Maturola:
Running CM10 Nightly 9/10 and it is pretty stable, i am having some issues with the Facebook notifications and Gmail is not pushing its notification either, so i may comback to 9/7 which was ok. But i tried going back to stock and it was very weird, i'll be on CM10 for a while