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[Epic 4G General] zman519:
Mmmm no I think I will ALWAYS & FOREVER hold this against samsuck.

I really can't understand how 420 & any one can think that CDMA is some how part of GPS. Its not part of it Plane & simple!!! And the fact that NOT one person has pointed out ANY GPS enabled phone that fails to lock when out of cell range sets a standard for what GPS should do on a smartphone.:rolleyes:

I mean REALLY how can you NOT feel mislead? The Box said GPS did it not? it did not say this phone has to be in CDMA coverage to work. So don't try downloading Maps & Driving to Alaska! If you do, bring Paper Maps of Canada.

I wonder just how many Epic owner have been screwed on the road, getting lost out of cell range & thinking "O its Ok I have Maps loaded on my sdcard I'll just turn the GPS on on my Epic phone" they wait & wait then it sets in the phone is NOT epic at all:what:

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[Epic 4G General] nikon120:
Then get a different phone by a different manufacturer, lol. If you truly feel like you were mislead or wronged, then file a complaint with the FCC/BBB or any other oversight administration.

If I was either planning a trip, often out of cell range or frequent rural areas, then I'd own a stand alone GPS unit.

...and I'm finished on the GPS topic, haha. Good day/night sir.
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
Your first mistake is that you assume that you know what I think. I realize that CDMA is not part of GPS - do you realize that GPS navigation is not an inherent part of a phone? It isn't, plain and simple ;)

I can't speak for others, but I have not had any other Android phone, so I don't know of any others that do have working GPS without cell coverage, let alone any that don't. But even if the Epic really is the only cell phone that has this problem, it doesn't change my point, that this phone is not a stand-alone GPS unit - the navigation capability is a bonus feature. As long as your phone does normal phone stuff with the services provided by the service provider, any extra functionality is just that - extra. Above and beyond. More than is to be expected. So the fact that it doesn't go far enough above and beyond for your liking is irrelevant.

The only one who mislead you is you - you expected more than reasonable performance from your device. Sprint didn't advertise any promises of functionality without their service, and they never will. Hell, they're more likely to try to convince you that a feature does require their service when it really doesn't, so why would they waste time developing a feature for non-customers? There just isn't any return from that investment...

And if you get "screwed" because you rely only on your phone, then you just didn't plan well - just like if your stock Dodge truck breaks while going off-road, you didn't make the necessary preparations for a proper off-road vehicle. Need GPS for a road trip? By a freaking Garmin. Would you buy kid's pool raft to go white-water rafting?

Now please drop it - you've been on this rant off and on for months now. Stop being upset that no one agrees with you. Some, myself included, may understand your point that the GPS could be better, but so far out of all the responses I've seen, no one has agreed with your level of anger over it. Move on - buy a better phone with stand-alone GPS to supplement your Epic, if you feel the need (personally, I just use my cheap Tom Tom, but you seem hell-bent on having a phone that thinks its a GPS instead, so whatever untwists your panties...)
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Woah woah woah now that I'm lit up it all makes sense.

They didn't bull****, they just had to say something the masses would understand with the money-margin at the core.

But that won't explain how the nexus s gets jb...
[Epic 4G General] zman519:
I have many GPS units.

You guys are crazy. Crazy I tell you, the epic has A) busted GPSone chip or B) its locked by firmware at some low level by samSprint. Ether way samsung made a POS gps in the Epic.

I say again do you think it would be OK if bluetooth stopped working out of cell range? That's its own radio hardware. IE not part of the CDMA transceiver. O I know how about if it would NOT play mp3s away from CDMA, but that's ok cuz we know that samsuck made this phone for sprint & sprint is happy to have music for you only if your in sprint/cdma/usa zones. Noz music for you on the water or air that's Not cool with sammsuck & sprint no no no

Do you guys NOT remember on android 2.1 it would not lock down below 100' ?

And yes I will get a new phone some day when I have $ to blow, & or if some thing comes out with a keyboard that's cool & fast & etc.... trust me if I was not so dam broke I would have mailed this thing to FPSrussa a long time ago. But then I would have been hopelessly looking for a keyboarded phone.

I really have avoided buying any thing samsung & talked as many people away from samsung as I can. I mean if ppl ask me about phones I tell them what I think about samsucks epic.

Cool phone hardware locked down by samsprint & the only thing to save the phone is the people on xda.

I hope you do understand this is a cell phone forum & its the place to complain & praez phones. I'm really not all that upset about a dam phone. I mean if I met the ppl responsible for the gps I WOULD NOT KILL THEM or any thing. Just maybe spit in there drink or trip them & then poor the drink on them LoL o ya can you see the TMZ headline now. EPIC owner trips samsuck bean counter hehe

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[Epic 4G General] styles420:
Then use one (or all) of them and stop complaining on XDA. You don't even have the need for such dependence on the phone's GPS - perhaps you just have the need to complain?

Well, it isn't busted - then it would never work, so it's silly for you to even suggest that as a possibility. You're spouting nonsense in your irrational rage ;)

Well, bluetooth was designed for hands-free headsets, which are designed for phone calls, so I really don't think it would be relevant when you can't make phone calls.

If I plan to listen to music, I plan to do so for as long as possible without a battery dying on me. I hate to imagine the size of the bluetooth earpiece that would be required in order to fit a large enough battery to out-last my phone, so I just take the smarter, more energy-efficient route - I use corded headphones :)

No... I remember my Epic getting down to an accuracy of 9 yards (slightly more than 27 feet, but well under 100) when I first got it, a week after it came out. Exaggeration tends to damage what little credibility you might have left...

So spend less time on XDA and more time working and saving, so you can minimize suffering - your suffering with a phone you apparently hate, made by a company you hate and sold by a provider you hate... and our suffering with your self-entitled cry-baby rants ;)

Wrong. This is XDA Developers forum - not XDA Phone Review forum. Plain and simple ;)

Would you like to drop this yet? I'm not saying that you have to change your mind - what you lose sleep over is not my concern. But if you could kindly never mention GPS here again, I know of a few people that would greatly appreciate it :)
[Epic 4G General] zman519:
Ok ok 420 I see where coming from & yes I vent about my phone on hear when I'm really upset about other things. See I would hit the 420 to clam down but I quite that a long time ago cuz it makes me feel way more sad when I'm down:(

Hope your nights better than mine. :(

Rocking cm9.1
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Holy.... What the heck happened here!? I leave for 2 days and this is what happens? Shame on you guys.

Posted by Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
It was the unicorns man, they attacked man, and all they left were GPS units with no power source. D:
[Epic 4G General] nikon120:
****ing unicorns. ;)
[Epic 4G General] orlzzt:
I'm just waiting for the conspiracy theories to start....

Samsung wont give us ICS because it will supercharge the GPS and then our Epics will pick up transmissions from UFO's that will finally prove NASA faked the moon landings with leftover Stanley Kubrick footage.

F**k*ng Samsung!!
[Epic 4G General] adamdelozier:
Wait...we have ICS??? And all this time I thought Cupcake was it :eek:
[Epic 4G General] zman519:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmand

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[Epic 4G General] zman519:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Will not work on Epic 4G

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[Epic 4G General] LemonHead2089:
If anybody else was wondering... :(

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=31262247&postcount=118
[General Questions and Answers] anhhai680:
Hi All.

I'm using RootBox rom and I downloaded RootBOX-toggles-2.3.zip from RootBox topic in this forum,but I don't know I can't flash this file althought I flashed RootBox rom and google app successful. I tried more time but it didn't work, anybody can help me to resolve this problem :(:( ?

Thanks all.
[General Questions and Answers] anhhai680:
Can everybody help me ? Now I still cannot flash this RootBOX-toggles-2.3.zip file for my phone :(:(
[LG Optimus Me P350] joseph457:
could you guys send me the link v10g stock rom? thanks!
[LG Optimus Me P350] dbarrera:
Check the wiki, there is a link that has all the stock ROMs listed...
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] King Cole:
So, I believe this to be an Ion issue only, but I'm not totally sure. Upon changing my launcher to Apex, I can no longer access many of the widgets native to the Ion, such as the (extremely convenient) toggle buttons for WiFi/Bluetooth/NFC/Vibrate/etc, the default digital clock widget that is the first thing you see when you first start your shiny new Ion, and many others. Any help on getting these to work in Apex would be a godsend.

Note: I can still change to the Xperia Launcher and see all of the widgets perfectly fine, they're just not available to place from Apex.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Bugly Astard:
Some widgets are native to the xperia launcher, try using power toggles from the market
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] ganeshbiyer:
It is the same with most of the launchers. Widgets from one launcher is not usable on the other. Nothing new.

These widgets are dependent on the launcher.

I miss the walkman widget when using another launcher, so sticking with xperia launcher.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jostrike1:
WIDGETS

The widgets are only compatibles with the "home xperia" original
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Recon Freak:
Is it possible to unpack the apk and remove the dependencies for the home launcher?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] King Cole:
Well, thanks for the help guys.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] zackspeed:
You could try using ported widgets that are not dependent but doubt there are very many and allot of them don't play very nice unless all Sony stuff is not in the build. I would not mess with it though as you could cause a big problem. Maybe in a few years we will get a unlocked boot haha
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] kinkinhood:
I miss the walkman widget.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] whitelightnin3006:
I have tried roam control, and it doesnt work. I have emailed them with no response yet, but wanted to know if anyone else has figured this out yet?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] donsh00tmesanta:
What does it do? For me it asks if I'm rooted when I clearly am......worked fine on gs2
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] whitelightnin3006:
it says its modifying something like it did on my epic, but nothing happens after that
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] PythonFanTN:
Just making sure, but (a.) do you have the most current version (2.2.0), and (b.) assuming your answer is yes to the previous question, did you go into the options and choose Motorola as your Phone manufacturer?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] whitelightnin3006:
i do have the newest version yes, and yeah i changed the manufacturer as well. thanks for the help so far
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] PythonFanTN:
If you or anyone else figures out something to get it working please post it here. I would probably go and buy the Q finally if not for this, glad I held off this past weekend. Sprint signal is like a virtual yo-yo at work, so I pretty much have to be able to force roaming there or otherwise my battery life suffers.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] PythonFanTN:
By the way, I was wrong on the latest version, the newest is 2.3.0 now and was released a month ago (8/5/12)....I hadn't been to the site in awhile.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] whitelightnin3006:
yeah thats the version i tried. i will let u know if i figure anything out
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] PythonFanTN:
Does anyone besides whitelightnin that has the Photon Q have this same issue with Roam Control? If there are any veteran XDA members here that have a rooted Q but have never bought/used it, I'd be willing to donate the $4 via PayPal for purchase in order to help verify that this is an issue with the RC app vs. just one person's issue. It wasn't clear from donsh00tmesanta's post whether he does have a P-Q and doesn't have the problem or not, I sent him a PM to try and get a clear answer on that.

I'm anxious to get this figured out and moving forward one way or another...I really want to move to this phone but simply can't if Roam Control doesn't work.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
oops, responded to wrong thread by accident:/
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] PythonFanTN:
Has anyone else tried RC on the Q yet? Anyone? Bueller?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] donsh00tmesanta:
I have a gnex and it asks for root once but the second time it should it just asks if phone is rooted

Worked fine on ff18 and gb

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iphones are the creation of people with nowhere left to turn

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On eptouch

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iphones are the creation of people with nowhere left to turn
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] PythonFanTN:
Mucho thanks to arrrghhh for his time & help in verifying via a 2nd person now whether Roam Control would work or not on the Q....which unfortunately, as it stands right now it appears the answer is no.

Here's hoping MrGreg will be able to get it working for the Q eventually.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] whitelightnin3006:
Well maybe someone else can try getting in touch with him cause he no answer me.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] wintrxtrem:
Just emailed him. Hope to hear back soon.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] whitelightnin3006:
$50 donation for whoever can make it happen.

If anyone hears from Mr Gregg, or knows of anyone who can create another way to do this, I will throw in 50 bucks for a fix to have roaming only as an option, or to have roam control updated so that it works on this phone.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] amloessb:
I also recently purchased the Photon Q and sadly, Roam Control has yet to work for me either.

Looking forward to seeing if this can be remedied.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] PythonFanTN:
Just happened to check the site and saw an update from MrGreg from 2 days ago (9/20):

So it may be a bit yet, but hopefully its coming before long.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] ericcire:
Yes, I am sharing your frustrations also! I have purchased Roam Control just to find out that it doesnt work! $5 paypal to who gets this working.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] zodiac12345:
Force Roam, Sort of

Go into dialer/phone, dial *#*#4636#*#*. This sometimes does not work, so just redial it if anything. Afterwards, go into "Phone Information". On the bottom right corner if the screen, there will be the menu icon (3 squares lined up). Click on it, then choose "Select Radio Band".

:D

3 Options will appear:

USA Band - Does not seem to work :confused:

Cellular - This will force roam onto Verizon, US Cellular, etc (all companies that utilize the 850 MHz band)

PCS - Should be Sprint Native signal for the most part. (1900 MHz, so pretty much Sprint)

Note: As of now, this should work as a decent workaround to force Roaming, however, Sprint will be deploying 1x (Voice) over the SMR spectrum, or simply put, the 800 MHz frequency. I am not sure if the phone will connect to Sprint's 800MHz frequency when available, or it if it will connect to Verizon's 850 MHz. This will not only come into play in Network Vision areas, but will eventually impact all of Sprint's network, as all towers will receive Network Vision.

WARNING: This method has proven to be problematic as you cannot return to default settings. This means no Auto Roam, you will have to manually switch between Cellular and PCS until you can use QPST as a fix. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT QPST IS, DO NOT USE THIS METHOD AS IT MAY HURT YOUR EXPERIENCE.

Disclaimer: I am not responsible for your stupidity or loss of contract for using this method. I am also not responsible if you become angry at your phone and throw your cat out the window, then punch a woman out of frustration.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] ericcire:
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] wintrxtrem:
Which is the default setting?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] PythonFanTN:
I'd have to think PCS would be the default. But do you have to go back in to the same menu and choose PCS to switch back, or does simply going into normal network settings and changing to CDMA, CDMA/LTE, or Auto reset/override this?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] zodiac12345:
From what I understand, PCS will get you back onto Sprint Native signal, so i assume thats the default setting. The CDMA/CDMA&LTE/Auto DO NOT override these settings.

I have only discovered this recently, so I will tell you if I am able to roam on Verizon even if the PCS option is selected.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] PythonFanTN:
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification!
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] whitelightnin3006:
AWESOME job man!
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] zodiac12345:
Slight Problem With This method

Well, The good news is that this method will allow you to roam on Verizon (and other 800 MHz carriers), but will not you return to the original default setting. What I mean is this, lets say you pick "PCS". Once you lose PCS signal, ie Sprint signal, the phone will NOT look on the Cellular frequency, ie Verizon. You will have to manually go into Dialer every time, and pick which frequency to use. Now, this is not a large problem, but, if you drive through regions where signal varies occasionally, meaning sometimes Sprint has good signal, sometimes Verzion is better, you will not automatically switch between the two. See where the problem comes into play?

What this means is that the default setting should be "USA Band", but that seems to not work. So, once you use this method, say goodbye to auto roaming. I am sorry for this, and I will try to find a fix for this to get back on the auto part (USA Band). If anyone discovers a way to get back to the "USA band", obviously let us know.

Edit: For anyone concerned about the auto setting, I think I have found a fix. I will post how once I am done testing to make sure it actually works.

Edit 2: Nope, the fix I thought would work didn't.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] wintrxtrem:
The automatic setting kills batteries in fringe areas which is why I actually like this as I prefer to be on either Sprint Only or Roaming Only, a la Roam Control, which was just coincidentally updated, but the Photon Q is still on the waiting list. http://www.roamctrl.com/
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] zodiac12345:
I'm not denying that some people may want to choose their frequency/carrier, but I posed a scenario where you can't, or really shouldn't do so. For example, lets say you have to drive in your own car about 200 miles on a trip. On this trip, some areas have excellent Sprint coverage, others are void of Sprint and must utilize Verizon. What are you supposed to do on this trip? Constantly look at your phone to make sure you have signal while driving? Stop every few miles for the same reason? This would post a risk for injury while driving. Battery life has little to no concern when you are driving, because chances are you probably have it hooked up and charging. Leaving the phone on Cellular ONLY at this point may cause another issue, excessive roaming usage.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] swintec:
%^#% i wish i would have read this before i did it. lol now i cant get back to "normal". grrrr...what are the options now? i chose the USA option and the phone does not pick up any signal.

EDIT- Possily there is an option in QPST to fix this?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] zodiac12345:
I'm going to try to figure out if QPST can help. If I find something, I'll post it here.

Edit 1: QPST seems to have done the trick. I am still going to test out if this works, or not, but under "Service Programming" and then under UMTS System, we have seem to have our answer.

When you change the settings from PCS to Cellular, etc, THIS SEEMS TO HAPPEN (look at attached pics)

So, if someone who didn't Force Roam on their phone please post a picture, or at least copy which ones are checked off by default.

Edit 2: Good News Everyone! QPST has the option to change the settings. If you are in the US, and use Sprint, please use the attached picture (Auto Config) and fire the checks under QPST. Click on Write to phone, and bam, should be good as new. Another method, is far harsher, a hard reset of the phone. So, all should be good as new. I have not tested this, but I am getting a Sprint Signal after using this method, so, QPST must have worked. I'll post the breakdown of what I checked and why you should check it off.

Note: Edit 2 HAS NOT BEEN TESTED YET. Chances are though, if you are reading this, you have screwed up the same way I did, and a few others. Take the plunge and use QPST, I will post results of the Auto Config I made and see if my phone does indeed Auto Roam.

BC0 - Band Class 0 (Cellular frequency) - Used mainly by Verizon and US Cellular

BC1 - Band Class 1 (PCS Frequency) - Used mainly by Sprint (also Cricket and Metro, but rarely will you roam over this band). EDIT: Verizon has spectrum in this area as well.

BC10 - Band Class 10 (Secondary 800 MHz band) - This is the SMR frequency currently being deployed by Sprint, it was originally used by Nextel for iDen services. Basically, check this off for better coverage where available.

BC14 - Band Class 14 - Not completely sure if this is meant to be checked, but, description says "US PCS 1.9GHz Band", so lets be safe and check it. Possibly Sprint's band.

Edit 3: PROVEN TO WORK AS A TEMPORARY WORKAROUND. I DO NOT GAURAUNTEE DEFAULT SETTINGS AS NONE OF US HAVE THE DEFAULT SETTINGS.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] swintec:
that seems to work. Will be in roaming area to see later. How will this affect international roaming on GSM since none of those checkboxes are checked? I think to be on the safe side we really need a user who didnt do the previously mentioned steps to there phone to take a screen shot of their settings so we know what "normal" is.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] zodiac12345:
I do agree this is not the best solution, but it will have to do for now, until someone tries to help out. Basically, if you aren't leaving the US and are only using Sprint + Roaming, this should be fine as a solution.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] JamesChilds:
Well, I don't know if this was just a fluke or not but I switched back to PCS, went into airplane mode, came back out and was on sprint. Got to work today and was roaming again WITHOUT switching back to Cellular. Now granted I didn't actually get a data connection but I didn't bother waiting longer than 30 seconds to get a data connection as my service at work is spotty and constantly switches so I can never stay connected to data. If someone else could try and verify we may have a simpler fix :)

Sent from my XT897
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] zodiac12345:
Looking at QPST, it is impossible for you to roam over Cellular when you chose PCS. Chances are, however, you were roaming. Verizon does have PCS spectrum and it is used. You were probably roaming over Verizon's PCS frequencies. The reason Verizon's PCS may be better than Sprint's is tower location, where a Verizon tower may be closer to your work place.

If you do roam again, go into Dialer (Phone), and dial ##33584# (##DEBUG#). Go into 1x Engineering. Tell us the channel and Band Class. If Band Class says "US (800 MHz)", then congrats, you found an easier fix.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] swintec:
LTE (if available) will still connect with this QPST method?