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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IP IHI II IL:
http://androidandme.com/2012/09/tab...fire&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

Oh man... I may have to hold off on my plan to upgrade to an N7...biggest question is price... Will they charge another $500+ (that's what I paid for my Flyer), or compete with the N7 & Fire on that level too?

I chose the red pill... Now I'm in the mAtrix and I know Kung Fu... in HD!

http://android-gz.com
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
Price points closer to Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire seems like a more feasible marketing tact than taking the "high road" which clearly did not work for the "original" Flyer.

I'm willing to pay more for a higher quality product. But the "race to the bottom" on Android tablet price seems to be the popular business model these days. Low price has resulted in big sales, and popularity has its perks, as more popular devices get better development, and also better support from accessory manufacturers.

I'm not quite ready to upgrade from the Flyer. But if I were, the Nexus 7 would be the lead candidate, and like the OP a new tablet from HTC would possibly be worth considering.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] PVL_93_RU:
We'll find out on 19th of September
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IP IHI II IL:
I have a feeling the 7" Flyer 2 announcement will come at a later date (like next year)... We may hear something about their rumored 10.1", though...

I chose the red pill... Now I'm in the mAtrix and I know Kung Fu... in HD!

http://android-gz.com
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] PVL_93_RU:
If one of the new HTC products is a 7" tablet - I'm in. Nexus 7 ATM has WAY too many downsides compared to Flyer, such as lack of 3G, no SD-card, no rear camera (as stupid as it sounds), no pen, and no Sense UI thanks to which I can use HTC Notes app for my studies when I type the lectures on it. No Android app (besides Evernote itself) can provide such functionality. And, as strange as it would sound, pure Jelly Bean UI just doesn't get me.. as well as the race for the latest technologies (I mean Android 4.1.1).

So, if there is to be a Flyer 2 (or, as HTC usually calls next-gen models, Flyer S or smth like that) - then I could just start saving money up right now.

If HTC is only going to target 10" segment - then I'd be very sad about it, because only Google and Samsung are interested in the 7" tablets
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IP IHI II IL:
^^Couldn't agree more with alluh that^^

I chose the red pill... Now I'm in the mAtrix and I know Kung Fu... in HD!

http://android-gz.com
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] PVL_93_RU:
Good to know I'm not alone in that opinion
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] geojoking:
If they'd release it with Scribe and Sense for tablets, it would be great for us as well. Should it get momentum, we could maybe receive an update a-la Galaxy Note 1 users. They just got an update to make the Note 1 UI look more like the Note 2.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] GuestD0235:
I for one have learned the lesson and will never buy a non nexus branded device again. I think that manufacturers need to rethink their strategies and make sure that the devices they offer are easy to upgrade.

If they find no profit in upgrading their existing devices to the latest version of android they should offer an offline image to be downloaded (from e.g htc-dev.com) for a smaller fee. If ICS or JB was available for purchase from HTC I would seriously consider buying it.

The smartphone market is still relarively young but I don´t think it will take long before the market settles and becomes more like pc´s. People don´t want to buy a $500 device that is outdated, software wise, in less than a year.

Nexus is the way to go and I´m sure that Google will prove it soon enough.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
HTC's sales are down again, -4% month to month. They are hurting and clearly have not yet learned the lessons.

1. Dump Sense or completely revamp it so that it doesn't hide Android innovation in ICS and JB.

2. Streamline your GUI so that it does NOT hamper your ability to provide Android updates on time and for phones your customers actually own.

3. Remember most customers are stuck with a phone / tablet for 1.5 to 2 years ,not just 4 months.

4. Stop spending millions on PR gimmicks ($300 million on beats audio and you don;t even get a headset with a new phone) and spend a little on updating your current customers.

5. Provide innovation and stop being cheap and screwing your customers and maybe, just maybe they will come back.

I"m betting HTC learned nothing and will price the next tablet with stylus in the range of the Samsung 10.1 Note. ($499) , not the N7 ($199). Let's see.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IP IHI II IL:
Killerskincanoe posted this in the "Flyer 2 pics" thread. I thought I'd share here as well... Hopefully they're listening!

http://m.facebook.com/questions/253251231444306/

I chose the red pill... Now I'm in the mAtrix and I know Kung Fu... in HD!

http://android-gz.com
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
What ICS innovations are hidden by Sense in say, the One X?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Well for starters HTC seems to think every phone should look like Gingerbread even if its running Jellybean. They haven;t made a major change to Sense in 2 years. The messaging app is not as good as stock ICS , the HTC browser is much worse, slow and crashes occasionally and when Google updates the Chrome browser in month or so, what will HTC do? Nothing as usual. As Android updates components, HTC will again fall behind because they are stuck with Sense components that have replaced the stock versions.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] j510:
You compltely dodged the question. It doesnt look like gingerbread, thats how sense is suppose to look. Messaging,browser, is completely irrelevant. Google chrome is installable from ics/jellybean.

I recommend a class of philosophy because all your points are invalid. Lol wow.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
I think ics/jellybean on HTC devices strips everything appearance wise that was appealing about ics/jellybean. Sense is very stail. Personally I feel the new HTC devices feel behind the counterparts in the market. Just a personal opinion though

Flyer
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
They are completely relevant. You could say google innovated a better UI in ICS, and HTC is holding the messaging and browser apps back. I recommend a class of manners, because all of your points are rude. Lol wow.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Mushhushshu:
Agree with this. Having recently ditched my flyer for a Nexus 7 and ditched sense on my HOX for cyanogenmod I have to say that the ICS/JB interface is so much fresher than sense, simpler and probably more intuitive. Sense kind of misses the point of android for me by sticking in a load of apps that few people will want or use (sure the weather app is pretty but how about letting me chose if I want it or not?). If it's sense thats responsible for HTC's naff update policy then it should be ditched, or stripped back even further. Frankly the only things I liked about it were the flip clock which is easily replaced, and HTCs contacts app which always handled integration with other apps so well. HTC should look at customer service, build quality and style if they want to differentiate themselves from other manufacturers rather than relying on sense. The HOX for example is (in my opinion, and those of many reviewers) the best looking phone on the market. That differentiates it enough for me, and with "stock" JB on there it flies and feels like a very current device.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
Have you spent much time on Sense 4 or the One X? To each his own, of course. But I find the opinion that Sense hasn't changed in 2 years, impossible to believe. Sense 4 behaves nothing like the previous version of Sense, much less versions from 2 years ago. And while some of the core aesthetics have been maintained (HTC wants Sense to look a certain way, obviously) many things are overhauled and in significant ways. Much more so than AOSP JB and ICS, in my opinion.

I've never had a single browser crash that I can recall (although the browser is a bit slow), having owned the One X since release in May. And I think the AOSP messaging app is ugly as hell compared to the HTC client (completely subjective, of course). This is coming from someone that has spent a good amount of time on AOSP ROMs on past HTC devices, as well as almost always used 3rd party SMS apps and launchers while on Sense ROMs in order to dodge the HTC versions. But on the One X, for the first time on an HTC device, Sense has really come around and provided a completely fluid, nice looking, and very usable interface. Whether its "better" than AOSP or not is completely subjective. But to say it hasn't changed in 2 years is nuts to me.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
You guys are probably already aware, but speaking of the "race to the bottom" on Android tablet pricing: http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/06/amazon-kindle-fire-2012/

With Amazon and Google continually "lowering the bar" on price, its less and less likely that HTC will be able to take the high road and stay competitive. They might not be able to match prices like $159 and offer the quality of hardware they are known for. But they might have to try to stake some territory in the "middle ground" as the number of people willing to spend $500 on a tablet that is not an iPad grows slimmer and slimmer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Snow_fox:
Being totally honest.. the only thing I hope from a Flyer 2 is a stable JB rom for my regular Flyer.

My flyer makes me happy in a lot of ways.. the one "depressing" thing about my flyer is the god awful honeycomb task manager.

I don't need the absolute latest and greatest hardware when my flyer can do everything I want it to do barring, google chrome and having a decent task manager.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
Lame. All HTC unveiled at their hyped up event today was 2 Windows Phone devices:

http://www.phonedog.com/2012/09/19/h...g-in-november/

Snoooore . . .
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] TidBit:
Good point. The old saying holds true. Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice, shame on me.

I sold my Flyer and bought a Nexus 7 and I am very happy with my decision. BTW, it seems that HTC is going all in on Windows Phones/devices, until they dump that like they did the Flyer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
Flyer received one major "official" firmware update (GB > HC) like many HTC devices do. Are there many (or any) HTC devices that have gotten more than one? Why this is a surprise to people (that the Flyer only got one major firmware upgrade), I have no idea. Now many people will say HC for the Flyer was botched, so that is a somewhat different story (for me, its fine). But we can only expect a manufacturer to support the device for so long. Sure, I'd love official ICS to have been on my Flyer. Did I expect it? Nope, and certainly not JB.

I seriously doubt HTC is going "all in" for Windows Phone. I think they are leaving their options open, not putting all their eggs into the Android basket. Showing support for Windows Phone (which they always have supported).

But to me, going "all in" on Windows Phone is a really poor idea. Windows Phone has a 3% market share in the US, and dropping. Unless Windows 8 brings some really revolutionary change in terms of mobile sales, Windows Phone is simply not a viable platform for HTC to survive on. Meanwhile, Android has 50% market penetration in the US, and I believe the latest worldwide market share is 70%. That's a huge market to give up, and I don't think that HTC is going to leave that behind anytime soon. HTC originally went Android in the first place (from the old Windows Mobile platform, although they have never completely abandoned WM/WP), since it was obvious that the Android device market was growing quickly. They aren't going back there, not as a the sole OS for their devices.
[HTC One S] pspfatboy:
Hi,

I've deleted my recovery and my phone will not boot past the white HTC screen, I've tried install the Ruu but with no success.

I cant find the Orange Ruu for the UK, can anyone help.
[HTC One S] rsdza:
Misread, that was O2 :(
[HTC One S] jimmythedaddy:
did you mange to find an orange ruu? im still stuck!
[HTC One S] pspfatboy:
No,but I've got my phone working again.I used the all in one tool kit from hansoon. see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1604677

and flashed the twrp 2.1.7 recovery to my phone then I adb push 2.31-Rooted-Deodexed to system. Phone in recovery adb push 2.31-Rooted- Deodexed.zip /system / 2.31-Rooted-Deodexed.zip (stock rooted from http://alchemistar.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/htc-one-s-rom-list.html used twrp to load rom this remounted my sdcard.But the rom wouldn't load correctly,wipe error.

So I adb push viperones from http://alchemistar.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/htc-one-s-rom-list.html adb push viperones.zip /sdcard/ viperones.zip used twrp to load rom ........Rock and Roll
[HTC One S] mastermoder82:
help please some one

Hi i have a htc one s in the uk and it`s on orange. i rooted my phone and installed a boot screen changer but after a reboot on my phone

it would not load up past the htc screen i don`t have a recovery file on my phone and my sd card won`t mount :crying: please can some one help.?????
[HTC One S] usaff22:
Change your CID in the bootloader, then use an unbranded RUU.
[HTC One S] truelove04:
htc one s stock

please brothers i mistakely cleared storage in bootloader with cwm installed now i cant flash via recovery or even mount storage

please can anyone upload ruu for 3uk htc one s so that i can use it to revive my phone

i haVe been searching for the ruu for weeks now please help me out

sorry for my bad english
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Can't help with RUU but the sd can be fixed here.
[Optimus V Android Development] aspee:
​

Most of time we flash script on our phone custom Roms.

but most of them are just a placebo script so I think about doing review of every script.

I tested every script one by one and check the difference.

Finally I found the scripts which are not a placebo and done huge difference in our phone performance and battery

The 99Power is the package of such script.(also included in My GingerDx Rom)

I will do more research on every script and will add to this package

Remember,If you have any Rom which have lot of tweaks then you need to first delete all the tweaks from init.d folder

Download the script from here

current version:1.0

Thanks to:

every script present on xda

Adrenaline Tweaks
[Optimus V Android Development] jonny5449:
Now this is amazing thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yaniel06:
I plugged in my phone today to transfer a rom over to my sd card and my internal memory was in red status. 732mb avail out of 11gb. I want to clear alot of it out. Is there a safe way to format all of internal memory?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sergio74:
I've always had luck going into settings/ storage format usb storage Erases all data on usb storage. Be sure to back up anything you may want to keep. Pictures music, contacts
[HTC Wildfire S] blogslogger:
hey,

i always had the confusion about which rom was better for our phone, so i decided to make a list of pros' and cons' of both 2.3.5 sense and 4.0/4.1 roms

2.3.5 HTC SENSE 2.1 and 3.5

PROS'

1. Complete hardware compatibility, which means no hardware bugs like camera, bluetooth etc.

2. FB and Twitter integration builtin, which automatically syncs the contact pictures which make them look better.

3. The Rosie launcher(stock HTC launcher) looks beautiful and has good number of widgets.

4. HTC SENSE has accelerometer based gestures like filp to silent, in pocket mode etc.

5. Office and other utilities directly downloadable form HTC HUB.

CONS'

1. Not the latest and greatest in the world of android.

2. Not as customizable as CM builds.

3. Can't change the pixel density due to non agreeing HTC framework. (you can, but it makes the apps go wonky).

CM9/10 (ICS AND JELLYBEAN)

PROS'

1. Extremely good battery life.

2. Tons of customization options like changable theme, pixel density etc.

3. Many custom roms such as MIUI and Vanilla based roms.

4. JB is particularly fast.

5. ICS exclusive apps.

CONS'

1. Bad quality of pictures taken by camera due to unavailability of lib files ( the amazing devs have had to apply some nasty hacks to get them working).

2. Some apps may forceclose (that depends on the usage, although its getting rarer and rarer.)

3. No builtin Fb and Twitter integration, so one should use third party apps.

4. Not as good as SENSE aesthetically.

CONCLUSION

in a nutshell, if you want fast stable fussfree operator, go for Sense. If you want to have complete control of what your phone does and want to mod it till it begs for mercy (like me :P) , then go for cm9/10

FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CONFUSED BETWEEN ICS AND JB

1. JB is wayyyyy smoother than ICS

2. JB has no native support for a2sd so you must flash data2sd script

3. Playstore apps depend on the dpi settings.. so as long as you have 160 dpi, there wont be a problem

4. JB has better battery in my opinion.

5. Both have their own bugs, but i believe ICS is more stable(marginally) but Jb is not bad.

6. Both cameras are good enough for high-light photography,.

7. They record videos, but you need to use a thirdparty app to access videos..

modpunks JB rom has a working camera,..

I prefer JB over ICS anyday..

hope it helps..

Cheers!! :)
[HTC Wildfire S] ankitjoshi90:
i dont think cm9/10 camera captures bad quality pictures!
[HTC Wildfire S] blogslogger:
it does, try taking pictures of dark objects. the shutter and the flash are not synced in cm9. so the shutter operates a splits econd after it is supposed to, thereby giving shadowy objects. on the other hand 2.3.5 is much much better.. ill try to upload some screen shots as soon as i can.. :)
[HTC Wildfire S] ankitjoshi90:
that mayb the case, i haven't tried too much with flash...yhess 2.3.5 sense camera is best...bt in good light conditions without flash cm9/10 camera is also not bad
[HTC Wildfire S] finance.resat:
Extremely good battery life. Don't agree.

Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[HTC Wildfire S] kantry123:
meee 2..!
[HTC Wildfire S] king_lud:
Don't forget CM 7.2 - fast, stable, customisable everything works (except possibly usb tethering), only it's Gingerbread so people find that a bit dull. Still if you want a ROM that uses all your phones features without annoying bugs and without Sense getting in the way and hogging your RAM then it's a winner.
[HTC Wildfire S] blogslogger:
there are ways in which you can improve the speed of sense roms and increase the battery life of ICS roms. I mean there is a way to make both GB and ICS equal. but that would be hard. Its definitely down to the usage patterns of various individuals. Whether you use data2sd, link2sd, app2sd or not, your brightness levels and et-al. Using whatever2sd reduces battery life. Its always been the bone of contention, this debate whether to use something which our phone has been designed to run well or to use something which google keeps on improving.... :)
[HTC Wildfire S] blogslogger:
frankly anyone who has tasted cm7 will want to use cm9.. :). once you get the cyanogenmagic, you cant stop really.. :P
[HTC Wildfire S] Kolos28:
CM7 is good but 3D graphic in CM7 is bad - just only 14 fps so I prefer sense ( 3D graphic score = 24-25 fps ) :)

Wysyłane z mojego HTC Wildfire S A510e za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[HTC Wildfire S] VigiDroid:
They are alright, but not as great as the hardware is able to capture. I'm not sure about how all that stuff works but surely if we can get good quality on an older version wouldn't it be able to be ported forward? If you zoom in a bit there is noticeable noise in the picture.
[HTC Wildfire S] king_lud:
When I installed CM9 the phone app didn't work - reflashed and it still didn't work. call me old fashioned, but I want a phone that can make and receive calls, not a tiny tablet. Also I want a phone that can take half decent photos.

When (and if) CM9 becomes fully functional and stable on the WFS, I'll give it another go because it looks nice and runs well if you don't mind the bugs...
[HTC Wildfire S] Lt.Win:
Extremely good battery life for ics? Nah.
[HTC Wildfire S] smartboy0668:
I havent tested JB A0 or ICS A8 or A7.

I just want to know diff b/w

JB and ICS:

Which is better in

1.Smoothness

2.Data2sd/init2sd support

3.Playstore support

4.battery life

5.stability

6.camera quality

7.camcoder work
[HTC Wildfire S] blogslogger:
1. JB is wayyyyy smoother than ICS

2. JB has no native support for a2sd so you must flash data2sd script

3. Playstore apps depend on the dpi settings.. so as long as you have 160 dpi, there wont be a problem

4. JB has better battery in my opinion.

5. Both have their own bugs, but i believe ICS is more stable(marginally) but Jb is not bad.

6. Both cameras are good enough for high-light photography,.

7. They record videos, but you need to use a thirdparty app to access videos..

modpunks JB rom has a working camera,.. :)

I prefer JB over ICS anyday.. :)

hope it helps.. :)
[HTC Wildfire S] smartboy0668:
Nice share man...u should attach it too, in op.
[HTC Wildfire S] blogslogger:
okie.. will do.. :)
[HTC Wildfire S] blogslogger:
there are build.prop tweaks to increase the battery life.... :)
[HTC Wildfire S] smartboy0668:
One last q ,i forgot to ask,which rom has better scrolling smoothness? Ics or jb? As compared to stock one.
[HTC Wildfire S] blogslogger:
JB.. again.. :) the trebuchet launcher responds quicker than on ICS.. :)
[HTC Wildfire S] hemantshah3:
I agree my pictures are far better quality than stock and all other....,

and the rate of pic have increased initially I used to click 1 pic/ 4 sec and in my current rom its 1 pic / 0.5 sec ....its awesome

send using cm9 RC2 alpha 7
[LG Optimus Black] raenics:
Hey guys, I rooted for the first time and my phone doesn't have google play now. I tried searching and could not find the solution, and I am kind of desperate to get it going. Thanks for your help.

EDIT:

everytime an app finishes downloading and goes into the install my phone restarts: (
[LG Optimus Black] wessyh0:
Flash Gapps, u can download it on the blog.
[LG Optimus Black] raenics:
Okay, thanks so much! I just downloaded it and got it going alright, but everytime the app finishes downloading and goes into the install my phone restarts: (
[LG Optimus Black] mrbtree98:
wipe your sd card, it's a known problem with fop. if you have any apps on your sd card it forces the phone to reboot. ultrasound weirdly doesn't have this problem
[LG Optimus Black] raenics:
hey thanks for the advice, I wiped the sd card, and unfortunately the problem has continued
[LG Optimus Black] wessyh0:
Did u flash gapps.zip through CWM and did u wipe the dalvik cache first? (Advanced > Wipe dalvik cache)
[LG Optimus Black] xonar_:
It installs fine if you install it directly on the sdcard. On v6 at least. That's why some people say it started randomly or after restoring apps since some apps just like to install them on the sdcard.

Sent from my LG Optimus Black
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] miatawnt2b:
Now that the Hulu hack doesn't seem to work anymore, I have no way of streaming network TV shows to the Transformer. Is there any other way to watch network TV content?

-J
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] shanegru:
try these 2 they work here

crackle and veetle.. crackle is probably the better of the 2... enjoy..
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] KennyCap:
Hulu works for me on jellybean. Side load adobe flash.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] tarends:
Xbmc with icefilms works great aswell
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] giorgobiani554:
Unfortunately I realised that, wire got peeled, is it dangerous to leave it like that?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Lietotajs:
No, it's not dangerous, that is just antenna...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] giorgobiani554:
Thanks, phone works fine, hope it will do so for a long time