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[Asus Transformer TF700] tschulieh:
Hey guys,

as more and more threads popping up to compare both I decided to make an overview.

First of all I owe both and will keep them. A little history....

6 weeks ago I bought the Asus tf700.

First one display not properly adjusted, and returned.

2 weeks later, got my second with CPU overheating and poor battery-returned.

2 weeks later, third one with vibration issues and once more screen probs.

I was about to give up, so returned and exchange.

Then note 10.1 popped up, bought it and directly felt in love with it :D

One day later received new Asus this time everything fine (tock, tock, tock - knock on wood)

So i had 1 week to compare both and short I will keep both :p

Why? Here we go. Both are stock but rooted, and with bloatware removed.

Note 101:

Pros:

I really like touchwiz and it's features. The s pen, split screen (watching movies at the same time as browsing)

And it's smooth, really great user experience.

2 gb ram, at the moment we don't need them, but great to have.

Fanfastic battery life, first charging cycle gave me 8h screen on time with a lot of browsing, playing, and watching movies and just discovering all the features, AND with a 4 days stand by time with 15% left. Really AWESOME.

Samsung has a great Dev community.

No need to unlock bootloader, so no void of garanty as triangle away is already available.

Cons:

Well not really, but the display is limited for outside use. Lots of reflections, and not bright enough. But nevertheless great colors.

Tf700:

Pros:

Best display, bright, full hd. Great for watching movies, it's fun to use it outside too.

The keyboard with xtra battery and dock, till now unique.

Battery life is not bad, 1 charging cycle gave me 4 hours screen on time, playing, watching movies browsing and tap talking. 3 days stand by time and still 30 % left. I didn't use the dock, as I would really compare the tabs, and but used the Asus more outside, so higher screen brightness.

Cons:

The system is not as fluid but working fine, for me nothing that really bothers. I wanted to try Zeus Rom, Stockholm cause I think this will improve fluidity, but will wait for jb update.

I didn't mention the speakers, as both aren't great, note à little better. But for me it's not really negative, as earphones have good quality and it's simply caused by the thin construction.

I recommend both, they're great advices each with pros and cons.

One no go for me is the poor quality in tf700 advices, but if you know the risks and accept them, with a lot of patience or luck you will own a great device.

The future:

Let's see what jb brings on both devices.

Note:

Hope some upgrades for touchwiz as we've them them on note 2. Otherwise better update politic by Samsung.

Tf700:

More apps supporting full hd.

Improvement for the processor, as tegra3 is not really developed.

If I figure out more pros and cons, I'm gonna add them.

Hope I could help you a bit, but feel free to ask :o

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[Asus Transformer TF700] adelancker:
Thanks for the review.

Could you also please let me know if there's a difference in browsing speeds between one another?

I've never liked Samsung myself, but how big do you reckon the development section in these forums will be for the Note when compared to the TF700?
[Asus Transformer TF700] tschulieh:
Hi,

I can't really compare, as I live at campsite for 6 month and about 200 people using the same network, it would not be realistic.

BUT I'd say the ASUS have a little better network connection and is a little bit faster.

Don't forget I'm using Firefox and Chrome.

For the community, the ASUS is available for 8weeks(?) and only 1 Custom rom and 1 stock deodexed with some tweaks.

While the note has already 3 or 4 Custom roms within 2-3 weeks. Well there are one for the wifi only and three for 3G/wifi.

Don't forget, I think you're from Europe too, so we have the 8010 wifi only and there is zero Custom Rom - till now.

Wait for JB, cause I think, then the next Roms will appear ;)

But as I postet, if possible really try both and find out yourself.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
Developement will be bigger on note 10.1. its already off to a faster strat after only a couple weeks releasing.

Unfortunately, most major top developers flocked to Nexus 7. Which I own also. Its $200 price tag & high performance really makes alot of people second guess more expensive tablets
[Asus Transformer TF700] lovekeiiy:
You can't argue the Nexus 7 and the price. If they had a 10" version for say $300, I would have probably gone that route.

I think some of build issues in the first batch 700s has scared some away. I think the Note may have gotten more out the gate because of the similarities with other devices they have. Then again, how big was the development for AOSP and other ROMs on the other ASUS tablets. Probably give a good idea what to expect.

Thanks OP for a bit more objective comparison of the tablets. Be interesting to read what you think in a month or more, especially if you still have both.
[Asus Transformer TF700] binhari:
can u run benchmark test on both of them.....
[Asus Transformer TF700] tschulieh:
Will do that later on, tf700 low on battery, and that would not be fair.

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[Asus Transformer TF700] tedr44:
To be fair the comparison should be between the note 10.1 and the TF300 which are both plastic and equal in specs.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tschulieh:
Well even if benchmarks don't count too much.

First for the note:

Antutu: 12572

Quadrant 5452

Cf: 24136/6489/13080

Vellamo: 2370

Tf700:

Antutu:13588

Rest will follow

Sorry can't post pics, you have to trust me :D

(how can I post pics via Tapatalk)

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[HTC One X] dtandukar:
hello, is there any camera which saves lat, long, and elevation of the photo location? I used iphone and i had that option. I changed to one x 3 weeks back, and I am desperately missing this option.

Best regards,

Deependra
[HTC One X] tomascus:
Doesn't it do that already with the geotag option?
[HTC One X] ben-fisher-bro:
Yeah mine does this.
[HTC One X] dtandukar:
No, in gallery it does not give any info on elevation, only lat and long are saved.

Best regards,

Deependra
[HTC One X] andee84:
Go in gallery to foto view than tap more and at last on details. Scroll down to lat/long.
[HTC One X] sumeshd:
What do u mean by elevation??

How above u r 2 sea level??

Jeez only iPhoners want that kinda thing..
[HTC One X] dtandukar:
Hi, I am no more iPhoner... I am androider now.. and I need that feature as it is useful when you go for hiking which i often do...

Best regards,

Deependra
[HTC One X] Wilks3y:
Theres an App called Sea Level:

Here

Maybe that could be of some use to you?
[HTC One X] BenPope:
Well, I don't see why.

I walked up 300m last week and wondered if elevation was attached to my photos.

GPS gives you position in 3D, so there's no reason not to have it.
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] mj.vikram:
Most of ICS user are using Nova or Apex launcher.

I find them very similar except Apex has a bit more options to choose while Nova is a bit more stable. Still both are miles ahead compared to our TW Launcher..

Share your opinions?
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] Ananay:
I guess the free version of apex launcher has more features compared to the free version of nova(more gestures)

Im using apex

But if you can buy full version then nova launcher is the best with much more features...:)
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] amar1548:
I use nova launcher prime, it worth every penny........... It offers more transition........ And more fun :D
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] venkatraman:
+1 to nova
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] Deadfreak:
I think i will be using nova launcher prime when getting the official ics update beacuse you can send widgets to back
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] chandrus1983:
TouchWIZ UX Has impressed me :D:D
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] avalion:
I'm using Nova Launcher Prime :good:
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] mj.vikram:
Nova Prime is paid version :crying:, I am using Free version and not able to create the folders in App Drawer other than that is excellent one......
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] Kartik pat:
Touchwiz ux is very gud!!
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] mj.vikram:
can we create folders in App Drawer..
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] drarunmmc:
my vote is for apex...

it is nice with lot of options..

but since all of u vote for nova prime i will try it..
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] D™:
Same here buddy.. just pm u check it out
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] vipul12389mehta:
Appdrawer ??

For me ux is nice

Well definately on home screen v can create folder...

Cant post scrrenshot...
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] Keksman98:
Yeah you can ;)

but you can only put one app in the folder and then save and then again, because when you put 2 apps into the folder touchwiz ux chrashes :(

But it's working :thumbup:
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] chandanbs:
Just after migrating to ICS.. i first used apex.. and then nova.. and then back to apex. Apex is just right for my use. (both apps.. free ones i downloaded from play store).
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] Keksman98:
The best free launcher is the Trebuchet launcher ;)
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] drarunmmc:
Can u pm me also..
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] mj.vikram:
have you tried Trebuchet launcher, How is it compared to Nova or Apex...
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] vipul12389mehta:
Sorry for the thanks...buttons r so closed

Bt ux is workin for me...

I can add more than 1 icons...
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] selva.simple:
I tried it buddy. Its pretty cool. Its a modded version of TW launcher to get the feel of ICS UI. But still its in beta stages. It miss certain features which Apex or Nova has. Mainly chaning the desktop icons and renaming them which i like most. Its missing in Trechbut launcher. Apart, its super smooth, has multiple transition animations and seperate widget drawer.

My personal vote is for Apex but currently im using Holo Launcher HD which is gud too. :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] mj.vikram:
Tried Nova, Apex & Trebuchet launcher's finally settled with Apex because Apex is having more option compared to Nova and Trebuchet ;)....
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] chandanbs:
Hello MJ.. can you include a poll of all these launchers .. we can vote for any one of them.. :)
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] mj.vikram:
While creating the thread only we can create the Poll option, once the thread is created we can not do it :( ....
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] chandanbs:
Thanks. Didn't know that :(
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] emanoj.i9103:
I'm using Apex, The Stable version 1.25 is perfect. The Beta version 1.3 beta 4 eats a lot of battery and is preventing phone from Deep sleep. Maybe they'll fix that in upcoming release.

Btw, I felt Apex had few more features than Nova.. :)
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] Adam77Root:
I vote for Nova. The prime version has very nice features and I really like the gestures it provides.

Sent from my GT-I9103
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] vipul12389mehta:
Well i suggest that donot go for nova prime....

I just gt nova prime n its folder creation method is pathetic.... In fact TW UX has a better and a way good method...

Firstly to create a folder, u need to go to nova settings-> groups and then create one.....

Even though if you create n add icons to it...they would still lie in the folder as well as in the app drawer..you need to hide them so that they are nly displayed in the folder...

My comparision is with tw/tw ux with nova prime which i felt is way better in terms of managing apps on app drawer n home screen
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] bundysoat:
Statistics? That is how many and how Apex Nova?

Von Apex but I'm really happy, if not I will surprise Nova or worse overall, but has things to like.
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] pulley06:
Using Nova :D pretty satisfied with it!
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] starspun:
After the Apex update decided to crash on everyones phone today, I'm thinking it's time to try Nova. I have no problem going for the pro version.

A question though....

With Apex, when you bring up the menu at the bottom, you get more options, like the ability to lock your desktop for example (whenever my hubby touches the phone, icons get moved and it drives me bananas!) I can't seem to find this on Nova. Any hints?

Thanks:)

Edit: Oops, nevermind I finally found it! I kinda like how Apex has all the options (theme, etc) when hitting that button. On Nova you have to search for everything. What to do what to do....
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] netcitizen:
Holo launcher hd also looks good. Tried it when apex launcher broke after the update today. They have fixed it now but am sticking to hololauncher hd for now . Is there a comparison of these 3 launchers with feature and performance.?
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] chandanbs:
Check this thread..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1730756
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] fzdolfan:
Nova Prime is one of the of the $0.25 apps in the Play store (last day today).
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] hubululuk:
I like Nova.
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] mclark.usa:
Apex

My vote is for the free Apex launcher. Apex has plenty of customization for my tastes and the price is right. I haven't experienced the instability that everyone is talking about. The first couple of days I used it I didn't know about the ability to back up the settings so I made some extra work for myself. Since then I have had no problems whatsoever.
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] Ajnasz:
Both are great

I think, there is no real difference between them if you will buy. First I bought Apex, and recently I bought Nova when it was $0.25. I don't even know which one I'm using. Seriously, I thought I was using Apex but when I pressed the menu button I saw, it was Nova. No difference between performance or smoothness.

The only difference if I remember correctly, in Apex I can use simple gestures even in the free version, what I can't do in the free Nova Launcher. It could be important, if your phone is high, because with the gestures, you can open the notifications just by swiping on the home screen and you don't need to stretch you fingers to reach the top of the screen.

So, my vote is for Apex.
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] ctragas:
Nova Prime +1

Both are excellent launchers. I use prefer Nova Prime because it's lightning fast compared to stock or GO and with beautiful transition effects. I really miss the Running Apps tab of stock or GO launcher but it's not a big deal.
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] ubizmo:
Is there a launcher that can be set to do non-animated, instant screen transitions? I know most people love the whole "scrolling" effect, but I don't.
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] cbc0201:
Yes both
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] bocak7:
hide notification bar

Hi, i just want to ask you if one of these launchers can hide notification bar ( as i did previously with Launcher Pro in home screen, in menu screen with all app just pop up again ) ... thx for understanding me :D

EDIT: Nova got it , and look really good for me :) :good:
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] defcon888:
My issue I am having is that I have installed NOVA PRIME and LOVE it. I have customized my homescreen. I went from needing more than 5 screens to barely using 3. I folder all my apps (Browsers, Misc, Music, Camera, GeoCache etc.), all related apps to those folders go in there. THen the launch bar on the bottom I put my most frequently used apps (i,e, Messaging, Phone, Mail, Contact).

My issue I am having is that I have my screen set up perfect the way I want, I back up my homescreen via the NOVA settings. I use ES File Manager to check to see if the backup is there....it is. I then flash a new ROM (in this case KILLER)....I installed Nova and then I go to RESTORE my homescreen (after I restore my apps) and it says that there is no backup file. I then check with ES File manager again and they are there but Nova won't recognize them.

DOes anyone know of a workaround?
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] ITuser07:
That would be super frustrating!
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] paul1508:
One significant differance I can tell is:

Apex (free) supports "iOS folder" (means 3x3 Icons for folder), Nova Prime does not (only 2x2)!
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] ozzyqd:
Apex Launcher Pro

i choose Apex launcher pro.i like the way to choose theme, compare to Nova launcher not so many option :good:
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] vbz89:
For those who are unable to transfer their nova launcher settings when they swap ROMs, I suggest you use titanium back up to take a backup of nova launcher app and restore that backup data. It has always worked for me. I always do a fresh install of each new cm build and I make sure everything is the way is was with minimum effort..

From my CM10 powered galaxy R
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] haunting:
both can just select *none* under the transition effect

I'd vote Apex just because it's cheaper for the pro than nova prime I missed the .25 sale

free vs free Apex for sure paid vs paid I have tried the full version of nova and really see no difference.

they both work great, both share most of the same effects and over all general theme / look / feel
[Samsung Galaxy R i9103] vbz89:
I like nova launcher for the tabs it allows me to add in the app drawer.. Makes it easier to sort and find apps..

The new trebuchet launcher in CM10.1 is also great but I just miss the tabs alot.. And the gesture support for dropping the notification bar on the home screen without stretching all the way to the edge of the screen..

From my CM10.1 powered galaxy R
[Nexus 7 General] Oukiva:
There is still a Nexus 7 vs IdeaPad A2109 running,

but now that the A2107 is available (at least in some Asian countries)

it seems more logical to compare the Nexus 7 with this other 7" tablet rather than with the 9" one.

The A2107 in Hong-Kong is today at 3/4 price of A2109.

It should make the 16 GB version at about $225 in USA while the Nexus 7 is $249 .

A2107 details: lenovo.co.uk , including 3G and microSD port

A preview can be found on trustedreviews.com or asking Google

More pictures on China Lenovo propotion page : http://shop.lenovo.com.cn/promotion/a2107
[Nexus 7 General] nioupy:
I got the baby - the Lenovo A2107 - in my hands at the moment... It's quite a nice piece of hardware... Quite responsive, web browsing with the stock browser is fine, videos are played correctly...

The slate fits quite nicely in the hands... The size is quite close from my GTab 7", just a bit slimmer.

The display is good, good enough to read a pdf on the go (I don't really like tabs to read ebooks for a long time). I haven't seen the Nexus yet, but I feel that, with proper resellers, it could find its way to a number of homes...

I'd easily get used to it... Too bad it's not mine...
[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
Considering my screen decided to crack without me throwing it against the wall or dropping it or anything like that, I'm looking at alternatives to the Nexus 7 now since I'm not sure ASUS will own up to their obvious design flaw that caused the issue. The only thing that catches my eye is the processor. Is it a dual core or quad core? I'm having trouble finding definitive references to it online. I'd assume at that price it'd be a dual, but who knows... and the resolution is a little :/ but other than that the rest of it is enticing.
[Nexus 7 General] e.mote:
Lenovo IdeaTab A2107 specs:

http://device.androidcommunity.com/ideatab-a2107-3183/

Video hands-on:

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The A2107 is a successor to 1107, and has similar specs & pricing. The main hook is its built-in 3G and dual-SIM support, which matters more for regions outside of the US. Otherwise, features and specs are lackluster, with MediaTek MTK6575 SoC and 1024x600 TN LCD, and aren't competitive with the Nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
Well that's a severe bummer.
[Nexus 7 General] Oukiva:
Not competitive? Depends...

The processor is maybe not the one of the Nexus 7 but the same we find in the Samsung Galaxy Note and all reviews said this phone/tablet was really responsive.

The screen is maybe not the excellent one of the Nexus 7 but is a good one. Not every one is fan of these high resolutions. For me it's mean I having to zoom most of the time on Nexus 7 to be able to read...

Final point is that the 3G Nexus 7 will be probably 40% or $100 more expensive that this model and will still not have microSD.

Not such a bad choice.
[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
After hearing about these Lenovo tablets and having my Nexus 7 screen randomly crack without dropping I decided to look further into a Nexus 7 replacement. Here are the two ultimate bummers I've found about these Lenovo tablets.

2107 = dual core, not quad core

2109 = quad core, but TN panel

Maybe I'm just severely spoiled, but really? A TN panel in a brand new 2012 tablet?
[Nexus 7 General] herbertleichtfuss:
LENOVO Idea Pad A2107A - A lot of questions ??? Please help me !!!

hello,

i bought the new lenovo ideapad a2107a in germany last week.

unfortunately there is no good support by lenovo until now.

i want to buy the original case shown on lenovo us website but can´t find it on web.

where can i buy it ???

another question is, i read about a build in fm-radio at the tablet, but i can´t find the way to switch it on.

can anybody help me ?

and i don´t understand why there are 2 sim slots for 3g / gsm. is there any telephon function too ?

i hope there is somebody who can help me ?

where can i find a manual and description which shows me all functions ?

thank you and best wishes

herbert
[Nexus 7 General] adroidx:
N7, FTW!

Pure Google just can't be beaten, especially for Those of us that like to tinker!
[Nexus 7 General] Ravynmagi:
The 2107 has a single core MediaTek 1GHz CPU. The Galaxy Note has a 1.4GHz dual core Exynos. I don't know how crappy the MediaTek is (never even heard of it before) but my gut tells me there is a world of difference between that 1GHz single core and the 1.4GHz dual core SoCs.

When we complain about the Nexus 7 screen, it's usually in relation to other high end IPS displays. However even with is substandard color quality, the Nexus 7 IPS display at 1280x800 is going to be a LOT better looking than a TN 1024x600 display.

And you have it backwards. Higher resolution displays mean you don't have to zoom in more to read. Lower resolution means the text is less clear forcing you to do the zooming more often.

It may not be a bad deal if you have to have 3G on your tablet for $230 (or something). This is going to be a small number of people. Most could probably just tether with a phone and save money on the extra data plan.

But this is a pretty low end tablet and not even in the same ballpark as a Nexus 7. I can't imagine why anyone would want this, except for the possible need for 3G on a very cheap tablet.

---------- Post added at 01:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:36 PM ----------

From what I was able to dig up, the 2107 isn't even dual core, it's a single core. And a TN panel on a tablet is an instant deal breaker.
[Nexus 7 General] shirtlessrabbit4:
The ten panel isn't as bad as you think. Still 170 ppi and decent colors. Just the viewing angles is all. Which isn't as bad since its not like you'll be frequently looking at it from an angle. Plus your friends won't be able to see what you're doing, which can be good lol
[Nexus 7 General] I Am Marino:
Hard to argue against a Nexus tablet IMO, unless the other tablet being compared is just as powerful but somehow a lot cheaper.
[Nexus 7 General] maztahbr:
lag

Its just me or some1 else saw a lag when the guy rotate the screen? (creepy)
[Nexus 7 General] Uqbar:
CWM/CM?

Is there any chance to run CyanogenMod 9+ on this marvel?

I've seen a post about a port of CM on Lenovo tablet, but I fear it's for a different unit.

Any other info?
[Nexus 7 General] nextari:
how is the camera? rear@2MP

Have you tried the rear camera? Is it Autofocus? I'm looking to get one and use if for detailed fairly close-up shots. I just got a Galaxy Tab 2; the camera is fixed focus and not good at all for anything close up. Also, the Tab 2 does not allow programs/aps on the miniSD card. How about the speakers and the battery so far? thanks!
[Nexus 7 General] K.Chan:
Google update, always the nexus...