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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quarlow:
I'm not the first or only one to notice this stark difference between the two. In this thread alone, never mind the interwebs at large. There is some difference between the two's implementation of the Gorilla Glass.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quarlow:
Seriously, thank you for unceremoniously dismissing my observation. I was only remembering reports of easy scratching the One X picked up in periphery on the GS II/III forums, and places like comments on The Verge. Your dismissal gave me the determination to do some searching. First Google search: One X Screen Scratch. Looks like I have some petitions to sign. The international One X forum alone had several xda threads in the first page of results. The sheer amount of petition mentions was astounding. Without your dismissal I would have thought it possible that I was having bad luck with every HTC phone, and uncanny good luck with every non-HTC phone. But, now I know better. Thanks.

I know it sounds sarcastic, but really without out you shutting down my opinion I wouldn't know what a wide spread common issue this is, and I am not doing anything wrong with my phone. Its just poor component quality common to the phone.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
This just in, the HTC One X is indeed a phone and not made of diamond like originally thought. Back to Dave with the weather.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] spiritcrusher33:
I'm not gonna worry bout little scratches etc. If u take care of ur phone and always have clean hands. Then nothing to worry bout.. but if u work in dirty environments or live at the beach or just throw ur phone in ur dirty pockets then yeah I would suggest a protector. But under normal use and common sense then you should be fine without one. Just my take.. currently using a siedio surface with kickstand and holster without a protector. Have a few very very light scratches. But again u can't see them unless in direct sunlight with the screen off..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
lmfao!!!!!!!!

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aye bro......try the zagg hd, its like its not even there. im telling u man, its the best ive ever used. u wont b let down.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WookieFan:
While I am obviously an HTC fan (I have only ever had HTC since starting with Android), I would have to agree with posts differentiating Samsung & HTC. Gorilla Glass is Gorilla Glass.

I dropped my Evita once without the screen protector, about three feet to the floor. No scratches. I usually get screen protectors anyway, but rarely have the correct one when I pick up my phone.

I have owned or continue to own the N1, Droid Incredible, Droid Incredible 2, Rezound and now the One X. Of all those phones, only the DInc ever got a scratch on the screen, and that only visible under perfect circumstances. I remember one person on the DInc forums actually claim that he scratched his screen with a fingernail.

So, I really take these "easily scratched" claims with a huge grain of salt. The HTC vs Samsung claims even more so. If you treat this phone with a modicum of respect, I doubt you'll have any scratches at the end of two years.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quarlow:
Just like 16 GB is 16 GB and the Samsung and HTC phones with the same capacity both have the same amount accessible to the user...

I never saw this kind of thread in the Samsung forums (complaining it was more prone to scratching than whatever phone), but the fact remains they are all over the various One X forums.

Spec sheet to spec sheet comparisons are different than use to use comparisons.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Badger2point0:
Oh man, normally I would be on the "Gorilla Glass is Gorilla Glass" side of things but this phone's screen is about as soft as a loaf of bread.

I have a soft spot for HTC phones so I came back after deviating to a Samsung GS II (Sense > Touchwiz), but eff me if there aren't close to a dozen scratches right where I use my thumb to swipe around the screen. I keep this phone in a soft lined leather pouch at all times but if there is any dust/fine particles or whatever on my fingers it has a tendency to cut right into the glass.

For perspective: after a year and a half of owning the GS II it had one extremely light scratch on it from falling face down on asphalt and that was only one of the many falls and tumbles that phone took.

I know this post isn't going to solve anything but I just wanted to chime in for those complaining about what seems to be the exact same scenario, I feel your pain people. Once you get away from using screen protectors there's just no going back, not sure how they managed to take such a step backwards in the anti-scratching department, makes me wonder if they got a bad shipment of Gorilla Glass or maybe just downright lied about it being Gorilla Glass.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] the_scotsman:
HTC/Samsung don't make the Gorilla glass. It's made by Corning. There's no differences in the "implementation". It simply cannot be the fault of HTC as they don't make it.

I'm not saying you haven't scratched your screen, but I am saying it's not the fault of HTC.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ufo8mydog:
Is it possible that HTC/Samsung apply a chemical process/layering method after they receive the glass that could affect its durability? All else being equal gorilla glasss is gorilla glass. The only thing that should be realistically able to scratch it from day to day use is sand (which is higher on Moh's scale of hardness than glass).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quarlow:
Yeah, they have to cut and shape the glass (it has a slight curve on the sides of the phone), and laminate the display and digitizer, paint the logos, affix the capacitive buttons, etc. They are doing a lot to the glass after they get it. And they do have responsibility to make sure the glass survives their building of the phone fully intact. There must be something that can explain this common observation that the One X screen can be scratched with harsh language, and the Galaxy S line needs a few hugs from cement to do the same thing.

Lets explore possibilities that preclude HTC from any fault. Corning is sabotaging HTCs shipments. By some stroke of really bad luck HTC got a bunch of shipments of defective glass. My pocket, and the pockets of many others, are holding the phone wrong. Without my knowledge someone took the time to coat the inside of my left front pockets with diamond tipped micro drill bits too small to feel with my hand but secure enough to survive a wash cycle, and they picked the day I switched from my Galaxy S II to a One X to do it (a vast majority of the complaints are within the first week or two of ownership). At the Samsung fanboy conspiracy club meeting we all decided to change to HTC phones and pretend to have scratches on our phones, for a laugh.

Lets hear some other ideas of how this incredible difference isn't HTCs fault. The more aliens involved the better. While we are at it lets remember who issued the recall during the Ford Explorer 1990 Firestone tire snafu. Hint: it wasn't Firestone that took the publicity or blame for the defective tires.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ComposMentis:
Site your source please. The screens are different shapes to begin with so there is absolutely a difference in implementation. I will pile on and add that this glass is far more prone to scratches than my iphone 4 was. I baby my phones and this has hairline scratches all over. Thankfully they aren't visible when the screen is on. My guess is the coating is the weakness.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quarlow:
... Yet

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WookieFan:
And if you want to be completely factual and "Site" sources, how about anyone here cite an actual scientific study showing faulty implementation of Gorilla Glass in the One X or any HTC device. Otherwise, this is all BS and/or heresay.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Root-Maniac:
POST IN Q&A! NOT GENERAL!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ComposMentis:
I'll take actual user experience over theoretical, but thanks for the suggestion.

Besides, who is going to go through the expense and time to perform a pure scientific study of the One X glass. Give me a break.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
It's sand or something else tiny, people. Just because it didn't happen on your old phone doesn't mean it shouldn't happen on your current device. Have you done the exact same thing every single day with each phone? Doubt it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] lyall29:
Like I've said before, HTC is doing something different with their screens because they scratch easily. Either they scratch easier or they are scratched from the factory and HTC hides them with some sort of coating that eventually wears off, either way it sucks when a scratch shows up out of no where. Both my inspire and hox scratched within the first week or so. I think that HTC hides the scratches because I baby the phone and it still scratches. No other brand has ever done this. If you purchase a HTC you better buy a screen protector before you leave the store or you're screwed because as soon as you swipe to unlock there is a good chance you will scratch it or remove the scratch hider coating.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quarlow:
Same usage, same car, same job, same pockets. So, yes.

The power of both phones running Android means I got back into my daily routine almost immediately.

Just because its a very common issue to this specific phone to see inordinate amount of scratches in the first week of use and its not happening to you doesn't mean we are crazy.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ComposMentis:
Okay now you're getting a little out there. When people talk about the coating they're referring to the oleophobic coating that resists fingerprints.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] lyall29:
If I have only had one other phone this might be true but I had the iPhone 3gs for a year and it never scratched, I gave that phone to my uncle and to this day it only has scuff marks on it and he drops it all the time and uses anything he can find to clean the screen. I had the Samsung infuse, the gs2, the note and they never scratched. On all of these phones I would use my shirt to clean the screen. When I bought the hox also purchased a microfiber cleaning kit from monster and the hox got a huge scratch on day 2 of careful use, this is unacceptable. This happened on 2 hox's.

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Yes I know this. But something is obviously going on with HTC or so many people would not be complaining.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quarlow:
I wore off the oleophobic coating on my other phone in a triangular shape of where I scrolled up/down and left/right, to where that part of the screen was matte instead of glossy, about 1" square. That part of the screen was no more prone to scratches than the rest.

I don't think HTC is taking a page from apple and shipping damaged phones (Apple would probably sue if they did, they patented "shabby chic" pre-distressed high end phones). I just think there is something about the gorilla glass they use, that when all is said and done its easier to scratch than their competitors phones ... And others agree. I never had GPS issues with my Captivate, but I would never deny it was a common issue with that phone. Numerous user reports on xda and several other online forums should be enough, I don't think we need a clinical trial.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] lyall29:
I decided to perform a test on my old inspire that I don't use anymore (this is the phone that got a scratch about 1/2" long and deep enough to hang my fingernail on after 1 or 2 weeks of use). I took a box cutter and pressed hard, almost to the point of breaking the blade and scrapped on the screen a few times and the screen did not scratch. I used keys, and a screw driver to try and scratch the screen, neither one of those things scratched it. Now how in the world did a scratch just show up 2 weeks after I bought the phone? Its madness.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quarlow:
2char
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] the_scotsman:
"Cite my sources"?

Well how about Gorilla Glass is manufactured to a standard. This standard does not change depending on which phone it's used on. It may be shaped differently for different phones, but the actual material and surface coating is IDENTICAL no matter which phone it's on.

I don't use ANY screen protector or case on my One XL...I carry it bare in my pocket and it has NO scratches. Go figure :rolleyes:

That's my last post on the subject as it's just not going anywhere.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Mister J:
Go on youtube and search One X scratch test. There are a few dozen videos showing people using blades, keys, etc. on the HOX and no scratches. Most likely you guys are getting sand on the screen which would scratch it.

Oh, and as for "actual user experience" I never got a scratch on my Xperia X10, Inspire, or HOX.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] quarlow:
... just ... wow ... :banghead:

Yes, this thread is going nowhere as the same BS responses are recited. HTC isn't responsible for the quality of the product they build, brand, market, and sell?!

I have an issue with my internal memory, do you have a number for Samsung? Because HTC didn't make it, so failures aren't their fault. How do I call broadcom with Wi-Fi issues? Can't blame HTC, they didn't make the component. They just put it together, stamp their name on it, and sell it. They take no responsibility for the how it works, or its longevity.

P.S. I also declare victory, and absolve myself from future comments.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
Wow!!!! I just dropped my att hoxl on accident. Had it in my ear, holding it with my shoulder, as it was dropping, i went to save it, and hit it even further in the air!!!! Long story short........the zagg hd screen protector saved my ass!!!!!!! The screen hit the corner of the concrete step hard!! I thought for sure, my phone was phucked! No case either by the way! Anyways thank god i decided to go with a zagg this time around!! Ill upload a few pics here in a couple mins. Man, i cant believe how durable the zagg hd is!

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WarRaven:
Thanks for the pics Zound..

Lady luck caught that phone I'd say :)

WR

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
i still cant believe i didnt royally shatter my screen!!!!!! it was a hard fall!!!!! lol!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Lol, speaking of lady luck... Is she clothed?

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
Lol, yes, has a towel on! :D its my roomate. Lmfao!!!! I didnt even realize she was in the shot, till after i uploaded!! Roflmao!!!!

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slimslim:
Same story here, I dropped it at the pool, face down on the concrete. I had a cheapo clear screen protector that saved my @ss. No scratches on the actual screen!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] an_xda:
How come sand would scratch the screen? Is it because it is fine enough to do the job?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WarRaven:
As its harder then glass.

WR

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
It's because quartz, the mineral that makes up most sand, is harder than most materials including the coating gorilla glass has.

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] an_xda:
Ah, I see. That makes sense. I suppose during my trip to Cancun was probably when these scratches came about then... :'(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
I would agree! Lol!

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Well im waiting on my zagg hd replacement to come in the mail, then ill peel this one off to send back, im hoping and praying that i dont have a chipped screen! I mean wouldnt it like spider web out if it was cracked, or chipped? I dont know, im just hoping all is good when i peel it back. "Fingers crossed"

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Misterowl:
[Adding my two cents in] Yesterday I had such a wild night and throughout it I dropped my one x about 10 times. No cracks what so ever and it was on concrete. So the glass is pretty durable from what I seen and I know that my inspire wouldn't have survived that. I hope this isn't off-topic >-<.​
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
Its not off topic at all! Lol. The thread is "how durable is the one x screen" :D my drop was pretty hard! And it hit the corner step! Anyways im glad ur one x is ok. And im hoping mine is cool too. :D

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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Lol. Get a case! 10 times!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] MattyMatt8:
Try using the dynaflo stuff. http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=69117 its pretty good nd you cannot even tell that its there.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Hunt3r.j2:
Basically if you find that you've scratched the screen, use either Dynaflo or Crystalusion Liquid Glass. They will fill scratches that aren't too deep.

Then put on a screen protector and stop worrying.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
I've only been able to fill hairline scratches with dynaflo, which you can't see with the screen on anyway.

Sent from my HTC One XL
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borikat:
i saw Xplodwild posted the V5, im currently on the V4, i would like to update but i cant find any changelog in the thread.

anybody has the idea what is the improvements?

TIA
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msedek:
Cyanogen team is an awesome team... Entrophy512 and xplodwild are both great developers... If they released something its because it's way better and improved over the previous release...

Now if you are not a developer you don't need a change log but if you are and unless you are building from CM10 source you could need it but in that case you wouldn't need to ask that... So you got 2 options, stay with v4 or enjoy they way improved v5

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danne980:
Lol worst answer ever? Of course the ppl behind this is great. But the guy in post 1 could have many different reasons why he want to know what the difference between v4 and v5 is. For one thing he just want to know it out of curiosity. He might want something for from v4 on HIS device etc. It's one thing to ask but another thing to believe you are owed an answer. He did in no way tell us that he demanded an an answer from the creators of the rom. Maybe even someone else know?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msedek:
Here http://changelog.bbqdroid.org/#n7000/cm10/next

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borikat:
woah! is that the way you understand changelog? for developers? kidding me? thanks for answering but its not helpful.

i need to see and understand changelog everytime i flash a rom.. so that i know what i am into. just like most people do.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] letters_to_cleo:
hmmm this is an off topic OP but your nick sounds quite familiar.... My eldest brother used to go far out to remote places in the Philippines, and I could have swore he said something to me before... hmm quite akin to the word 'bore'

:D

anyway On your topic.. you can visit the CM10 thread thoroughly OP, you for yourself can be the better judge in comparing the improvements on the updates itself.

here in XDA... there's always an unspoken rule here in XDA that most if not everyone should always follow..."Search, Read and Learn, before you Question on anything and everything
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msedek:
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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rynr:
After I flashed asylum's jb rom, the latest version, my vibration is not working properly.

On and off, sometimes i get vibration through my notifications and sometimes I don't.

Any help and answers?
[Android Themes] NewPwnage:
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[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drouse:
Does anyone have JB animations for aokp and if so would they work with the touch pad?
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -SGA-:
If you use Nova launcher from the market there is an option for JB animations
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananagranola:
Are you talking about boot animations? Or just regular launcher animations?
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Jack of Clubs:
id love the nexus 7 boot animation. anyone got a bootanimation.zip that works for the touchpad?

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[Droid Eris Android Development] bftb0:
Hi folks,

Long time since I popped in here.

I'm wondering if you've seen behavior similar to this before:

Spontaneous reboots during suspend/resumes (that is, an app running but the screen is off) which *sometimes* result in output like this at the tail end of /proc/last_kmsg

[ 2331.773132] msm_pm_wait_state(80, 0, 0, 0) failed 10d29
[ 2331.773132] msm_sleep(): msm_pm_wait_state failed, 10d29
[ 2331.929382] msm_pm_wait_state(80, 0, 0, 0) failed 10d29
[ 2331.929382] msm_sleep(): msm_pm_wait_state failed, 10d29

No errors detected

I can manage to run logcat as a background process (the syndrome seems to involve the kernel PM (Power Management) suspend/resume function, as it refuses to occur when plugged in to USB); sometimes I also see

09-01 21:07:58.371 273 416 E RPC : error writing RPC packet: 22 (Invalid argument)

as the last line in the logcat. I don't know what is lost in the logcat output after that due to buffering, but the "No errors detected" in /proc/last_kmsg seems to point away from a kernel panic. And yet the phone reboots in a decidedly ungraceful fashion... if all filesystems were flushed I would expect to see something in the logcat about a reboot.

Test conditions:

Kernel: 2.6.29-DecaFuctCFS-dirty-9ff84b92 (conap@conap-laptop) (gcc version 4.4.0 (GCC) ) #5 PREEMPT Thu Jan 27 22:14:44 EST 2011

ROM: Condemned Soul's CCM7-V21 Vanilla

CM CPU min/max: 245/729 (* I don't think this matters)

Governor: ondemand

Other: Screen must be off and phone disconnected from external (USB) power for this reboot to occur; my test condition also includes the phone in Airplane mode. (I do not know if the latter is necessary for bug expression).

I can add more detail, but I didn't want my post to get too long. I can cause this to happen deterministically (a delay of one to several minutes before the phone reboots). The app involved uses the GPS hardware...

Anyhow... does this syndrome sound familiar at all?

bftb0

PS Yes this is a real-world scenario - I want to do GPS track recording in areas without cell/wifi service, so... running without USB power and no radios (for battery conservation) is a priority.
[HTC EVO 3D] berardi:
Sometimes it charges fine, other times it stops charging. Pretty unpredictable. Often times a reboot fixes it and it starts charging again.

Still extremely annoying. Any idea what it could be?