[LG Optimus 2x] spawndk:
agreed

I do - but youre missing one point - the O2x isnt even better when talking about videogames or 3d performance - the Mali400 gpu smokes the Tegra2 gpu in every 3d game test you can use to test http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17 - it allways has right from the beginning and still does.

But you dont get better framerates in the O2x, you get better framerates and better gaming performance in the SII mali400, allways have.

There are just a minor number of games which have versions specifically optimized for the Tegra, and these games may feel better on the O2x, but only when you play the Tegra optimized versions of the games, if you play the same versions you play on the SII, you get worse performance on the O2x, and overall looking at all gaming the SII beats the O2x. The video that was linked to doesnt show the gaming performance correctly, and it was very old. People are misinterpreting what they see in the video. Its not about finding a few games where one seems better than the other, its the overall average experience. Games differ, one may play better on one device, another better on the other device - but If you play 1000 different games and 700 of them play better on one device, then this is the device with the best overall performance.

Thats fine, im not saying its worth the extra 100 eur, that is a highly subjective matter and it may not be worth it to everyone, Im cool with that - all Im saying is the SII outperforms the O2x not taking cost into consideration.

Also putting them side by side for a short time you dont get a proper idea of the differences, sure the custom launcher in your O2x may feel smoother than the stock launcher in the SII for a short while, but thats just untill you also change launcher in the SII or if you test it for a longer period of time. Soon you will notice how the O2x starts lagging because of memory leaks and needs to be rebooted (if it hasnt allready randomly rebooted itself), while the SII just keeps on going fresh and smooth constantly, soon you will notice lag when you multitask or update several apps in the play store at the same time etc. lag which arent there on the SII and so on. Using both devices over a longer period of time you will start to really notice how the SII just works better, how it just feels alot more mature and stabil in so many ways. Its difficult to explain or describe in words, and while I surely can record a video showing how its faster in the browser, in the google play store or in other aspects, its not really about being faster by a few milliseconds in different tasks, by any of the devices - its about how it works and feel doing all kinds of everyday tasks over a period of time.

The problem is mostly people focus on comparing only the immediate speed of individual tasks, which tasks differ depending on what the tester thinks is important - so one tester may test the browsing speed on a few webpages in a test on two fresh devices and deside one is better because of a few miliseconds - but if he had continued the test more extensively over a longer period of time he may have gotten an entirely different result.

With the O2x theres a real need for custom roms, just to make it reasonable, with the SII there isnt, you can use the stock rom on the SII and never have a moment where you feel a need to put a custom rom on it - sure you can still do it just for the fun of it, but its not needed like on the O2x.

As for stupid, I didnt actually mean that KoolSava was stupid, but that the argumentation with the video was. :) I accept that I may have expressed myself in a way that can be interpreted differently, for that I apologize