yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bilbo524:
Everyone should be required to read this and pass a test in order to post...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
It's gonna be a hell of a test...have you seen how many times I've edited this thing in two days???
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bilbo524:
Yes, but if you can't keep up/understand the basics that you have outlined here, what exactly do you intend to do with your phone once you s-off/unlock/root/flash it? lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
Brick it and cry on XDA

Sent from the depths of hell
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Damn it wile I'm gonna kick you squah in the nieutz
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
Wtf did i do? You know what screeew you guys im goin home

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Don't encourage the new users to cry, link them to a tutorial or better yet link them to my guide <shameless plug>I just added more troubleshooting scenarios including stuff they will never have to deal with, unless god hates them</shameless plug>
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
added more Troubleshooting scenarios the last to was gf trying to be cute but failing, I left them alone as to not hurt her feelings lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Updated yet again!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
Stop adding to lol

Sent from the depths of hell
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Not a chance, there's a lot of issues popping up that are easily solved by this thread. I revise and add information as necessary
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bilbo524:
This badly needs a sticky...

*pokes mods*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Heres a stick
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Added overview for dev unlock and did a general clean up to the guide so it reads better

In regards to wileout, I will not yield coward! Remember pistols at dusk!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
Well obviously no ones reading it lol...why not holla at venum or duce and try and get this stuck in general or moved there cuz it should be there

Sent from the depths of hell

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Dont you worry i already got the guy meeting us therevwith sterling silver dueling pistols and a casket we good homie lol

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Obviously but it gives me something to focus on, if you haven't noticed I'm basically strung out like a meth head when I'm bored and will randomly jump from thread to thread with the energy of a crack addict chasing rock.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sweetfish:
I have questions pertaining radios, PRI, and also PRL. First off what are they and what effects do they have on my phone? Will they improve my signal or data if I upgrade them? I'm currently on meanrom 3.9 , rooted, s-off, (no unlocked boot loader). But still on baseband 1.02.12.......

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
PRI and PRL can only be updated from stock, they dont really improve performance unless drastic changes have been made PRL I believe stands for priority roaming list, and PRI is something like Primary Rate Interface, although that may be the wrong acronym. Its basically the protocol for voice and data transmission, though I may be slightly confused (sorry). Radios pertain to anything from bluetooth to LTE, they are basically the drivers for the radios on your phone and may be updated with patches to improve battery life and/or performance

Edit: PRL does not directly improve performance on Sprint's network. It handles as the name states roaming

Edit 2: You can flash PRI without Sense, thanks bilbo
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Just to clarify - if you are S-OFF, then your bootloader IS unlocked - fully, in fact.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Thanks Captain, can't believe I missed that
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bilbo524:
You are correct on all points except one: You CAN update the PRI from bootloader (using the PJ75IMG.ZIP method).

Only way to update PRL is to flash back to a sense-based ROM and choose "Update PRL" in settings > about phone > system updates.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Yeah but I've honestly never tried so I wouldn't personally know and I'm not comfortable telling someone here flash this if I haven't done it before.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
This isn't exactly true either ;).

There are other ways. But all require a computer, DIAG mode, your MSL and any of several programs that can read your phone's data.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sweetfish:
What I meant to say was I did not use the HTC dev method, and I do apologize for my stupidity. I've only gotten the phone yesterday and been frantically trying to understand everything so I won't brick my device. What about radio updates? Would this play a huge role on my signal and data speeds? I've read somewhere that upgrading radio help a couple of people who got disconnected from data often, and been debating if I should upgrade it to be safe...

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Misinformation or lack there of, does not constitute stupidity. If you are s-off you can flash the radios with out taking an official ota. If you flash the entire RUU it will update the base software to the latest version officially available. Doing so has been known to cause adverse effects on some of the roms available. I've seen quite a few threads of people trying to downgrade their HBOOT and while it is possible, it is really not advised. There is a good chance you will brick (downgrade not upgrade)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sweetfish:
Thank you for all the help guys! I've successfully installed the new baseband and have noticed my data is more stable now ( maybe a placebo effect ) . My last bit of inquiry is, can I update my PRI and PRL using the sense system update through meanrom or should I use the bootloader flash method?

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
You should be able to use mean, it is still stock plus the awesome mods

Placebo effect in what regards? The WiFi was updated in 1.22 and LTE in the latest, the LTE fix had to do with the hand off. It really only benefits those in fringe areas who may have LTE but only can only maintain an already established connection. They had trouble making a new one once LTE had been cycled or they moved out of coverage
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bilbo524:
Totally forgot about QPST, CDMA workshop, and the like. Haven't used them since my feature phone days! Thanks for setting me straight :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Jesus Christ....I'm staring at my CDMA Workshop icon right now. I only ever use it to flash network provider settings anymore, and even that is slowly becoming a hassle. I had a friend bring me a droid x he wanted on cricket and no matter what I did, it would not flash over

I think I've been staring at these forums to long, getting a sort of tunnel vision. Im having trouble thinking outside the box. lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lreyes:
Very useful infomation thank you
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
I got asked some interesting questions, I'm just starting to add even more information right now.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Downgrading HBOOT is not what causes bricks. It's downgrading the other firmware after first upgrading to the latest version. It may even be possible to rollback just the radio, but that theory is untested.

PRL is updated through system settings, and can be done on any sense ROM. PRI is firmware, and can only be updated through the bootloader.

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Current Device: HTC EVO 4G LTE | ROM: toasted-deck CM10 | Kernel: Stock
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
I realize that but its easier to tell a new user its the boot, many don't know the difference anyway. It saves me the headache lol

Edit: I tried to rollback the radio on one of my OG Evo's and bricked it :(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Anthonicia:
Have a question that doesn't deserve its own thread and to the best of my knowledge hasn't been answered in any of the google wallet threads. If it has then I blame the xda app search function and not my lack of patience.

Anyways, I'm still on 1.13.651.1, haven't accepted an ota since p-days.

But I've also bricked secure element on 2 separate EVO's.

Do you believe fixing secure element bricks is more in the ota updates or the gwallet app updates?

Bc I really don't want to break the stupid thing again. Should I uninstall gwallet updates and clear out all data and settings before rooting/s-off/flashing?

Unable to get into it to reset and I can't remember if I got to login wallet with this phone or not.

Thought I understood this phone but at some point I became totally confused and lost all confidence in it.

Pretty sure it was after reading everything I could, did everything the "right way", yet still ended up with secure element error, twice.

Maybe u can understand keeping stock for 2 months and not updating/rooting. I'm stuck in the twilight zone you see, all bc google wallet and its secure element.

Ask me about my ability to annoy complete strangers!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
The original fix for wallet was for adding cards and making purchases. The 1.22.651.3 update fixed this problem, the latest ota appears to fix another problem I am not aware of. The best guess I can give is that it fixed an issue between the phone and terminal, quite a few users could use one terminal at a local convenience store but not another one at McDonalds or Macy's. If you still have original firmware, its best to obtain s off

Edit: its always a good idea to clear wallet, better safe then sorry. Google seems to have changed their payment system though. Rather then pass important information through NFC the payments are charged by Google and will reflect as such on any credit card or bank statement. I do not know if this by passes the secure element problem or not but users have already said they have flashed multiple times with out clearing wallet settings
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
I think the latest OTA included some secure element fixes. I also think that's why downgrading firmware is bricking devices.

But that's purely speculation on my part.

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Current Device: HTC EVO 4G LTE | ROM: toasted-deck CM10 | Kernel: Stock
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
As did 1.22, I remember people happily proclaiming that the update fixed their secure element but there were still a lot of them who's secure element didn't make it

Also, you're more current then I am on flashing and such, mind skimming what I have to pick out anything that doesn't seem valid? I took some time off from flashing ROMs and customization and I'm still playing catch up. It's good to see some things never change though
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Maybe tomorrow. It's bedtime!

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Current Device: HTC EVO 4G LTE | ROM: toasted-deck CM10 | Kernel: Stock
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Haha...appreciate it man
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Anthonicia:
Thanks for the responses. What should be done about keeping the current version of google wallet? It doesn't work either way, but in respect to rooting and flashing?

The up to date roms are based off current ota's then, so all the google wallet in-lays are present?

Really can't mess this phone up again. I mean I can, for sure without even trying, but I don't want to.

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[Edit]

First time secure element was thrown when flashing to viper Rom pre-ota 1.15.

Second time was either from rooting, flashing pure stock, or nandroid. Also pre ota 1.15.

So flashing now is more safe than before bc it is based off newer builds right? So if I flash back to a Rom based off older firmware I will brick even with s-off?

Am I just confusing myself for no reason?

Ask me about my ability to annoy complete strangers!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
I honestly don't know enough about secure element or wallet at this time to be of any real help, I can only echo the early sentiments of users who bricked
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] romeoh:
Thank you man for all these useful information. You did a really great job. Thanks again.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
I'm not necessarily done yet, either someone asks me a good question or I remember something that I have forgotten, I have been out of the loop for about a year and a half. Feels good to be back though, I missed my Cyanogenmod, now I only miss my S-OFF :(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] romeoh:
I know how it feels. Me too i miss s-off but I'm very satisfied with the stock rom. What i really miss are two apps adfree and titanium backup.

sent from EVO 4G LTE stock rom 1.19 hb s-on
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Titanium back up still works with root

Edit: I may have misread your post about titanium back up
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] romeoh:
No om4 you didn't misread my post. As far as i know that titanium back up request root privilege! I might be wrong, i will try it right now.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Oh so you aren't root, I assumed you had super user privileges
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] romeoh:
:) i wish that i have rooted it, i knew that i had the ability to root it after i received the first ota update. I waited so long hoping that any developer can find a way to root the new hb 1.5 but it seems really hard. Now I'm on 1.19 hb and decided to move forward.

sent from EVO 4G LTE stock rom 1.19 hb s-on
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
That doesn't mean you can't root. Just use the developer unlock. If you need to accept any updates in the future you can flash the phone back to completely stock and accept ota. Then reflash custom recovery and go back about your business. Just be aware that after any updateals some custom roms may experience issues until the developer updates the base
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
@Anthonicia

If you want to try S-OFF, I would clear your Wallet Settings and just do it. After it's done, I would immediately flash the 2.13 RUU, which will include the latest firmware updates for the secure element. If it works then, you can clear settings again, flash a custom recovery, and then the ROM of your choice.

If it bricks, you can at least return the phone to complete stock condition and still be eligible for a warranty replacement.

EDIT: Custom ROMs are based on the updated software, not firmware, so the ROM version won't be an issue once your firmware is up to date.

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Current Device: HTC EVO 4G LTE | ROM: toasted-deck CM10 | Kernel: Stock
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Lol I tens to call all updates firmware, sorry its a habit that's carried over from being a copier tech

Wait did I tell someone it was a firmware issue *confused* I haven't been getting much sleep
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Nope, my entire post was in response to Anthonicia's post.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Oh thank god, I thought I was losing it lol the neighbors have not let me sleep, I've had maybe 12 hours all week
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
@om4 u yellow bellied coward u were not at the knoll at dusk...ok now that i got that out...soo very weird issue last night as im sure you noticed the lack of me on here lol umm what would cause a boot loop to occur and clock settings to randomly change and data to quickly go on off on off and now i have two voltage settings for 1.35ghz one at 1125 mv and the other at 1846.7 mv or close to that number and if i try to change it to 1125 like the other my phone goes into what im pretty sure is a kernel panic. My issue is ive already wiped and reinstalled kernel like 4 times same issue everytime...if i dont fuk with it im good to go but now battery life is horrid to scarce at best. I havent been to sleep yet cuz of this shiit ive unistalles all apps and restored one by one from market not tibu thinkingbsomethingbgot corrupted ive done everything that i would could and suggest when this happens but im plain stumped. Any ideas? EvilZ beta0005 1.22 s off all that junk you know my setup by now lol.

Sent from the depths of hell
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Ouch that's a lot to take in, and of course I was at the grassy knoll, why on earth would there be a Mexican cutting grass in the middle of the night? Also have you tried a different kernel? Or changing governors since it seems to be an issue with frequency (may be an indirect issue with voltage stepping)

Also sorry but I'm going to have to leave you hanging for a bit, real life just ***** slapped the **** out of me, I'll be back later. I suggest reading up on voltage stepping in relation to clock speed. Unless I'm over thinking the problem which is a very real possibility due to some serious lack of sleep

I'm probably most likely over thinking it
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] romeoh:
I know that i still can root my device throw the dv unlock but that will voide my warranty, and everytime I'll have the risk to brick my phone specially that i don't have insurance.

sent from EVO 4G LTE stock rom 1.19 hb s-on
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
Thanks god you posted this! maybe now there won't be so many "i flashed x and now im lost" threads :) haha
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Its about 3 days old but since writing it initially I feel like even more threads have started to pop up. If people are reading it, they are just skipping around :rolleyes:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bilbo524:
You can root your phone without unlocking the bootloader, you just won't be able to flash anything. Root by itself will not void your warranty, and Sprint doesn't care if you are rooted.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
where's the fun in that?? Throw a recovery on that thing already :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
You can? How?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
I personally know of no method for which to achieve root without unlock, barring hboot 1.12 as a prerequisite.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cruise350:
Nice guide. I've always had s-off and rooted my phones as soon as I got them home. I found your guide very informative and will now guide noobs to it in the future.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Thank you, I've been updating it every day several times a day since I started it. I add new information when ever I remember something useful or something interesting is brought to my attention. Today I've only edited twice and that was in the early hours. I haven't made any changes at all since and it feels almost like a day off lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bilbo524:
That's my mistake, then. I have seen one-click roots that did not unlock the boot loader, but they probably do require 1.12... *doh*

I did not stop to think about that at the time due to me having 1.12 :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Bilbo I'm going to give you a bigger stick....not to poke the mods this time, oh no no no, I want you to strike yourself repeatedly, not for your understandable and very forgivable mistake oh no...this will be for my amusement. Now strike yourself!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bilbo524:
Nobody gets that show for free ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
aw come on...not even one little strike??
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Anthonicia:
@CaptainThrowback I'll have to try that as I'm slowly working my nerve up to root and s-off again.

Should I keep the most updated version of google wallet before rooting and flashing the RUU or should I uninstall all updates to pre-order day wallet?

This is probably least important, but I'm trying to follow the best path possible on this root/s-off. That way I can't say "well if I maybe did this or that then...". Possibilities are endless.

Thanks for the help. Does seem that each new thread started says to do one thing or something else other than before with google wallet. Or if u start getting into all the different flashing of Rom and kernel with S-ON, man, that's a lot coming from even og EVO days.

Ask me about my ability to annoy complete strangers!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
I would keep the newest version - that gives you the best chance of keeping the secure element intact when you reset it.

Hopefully, you'll be fine. If not, then I claim no responsibility if your secure element gets bricked ;) (sorry, had to post the disclaimer).

I'm on my 4th LTE and I'm personally not trying to brick this one, but I've flashed ROMs & restored nandroids over and over again, and my secure element has been fine every time (with 3 out of 4 of my EVOs). I bricked the 3rd one before I even used the device. It was really just a test subject, lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Update: NAND Memory and Partitions explained now
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
you heartless monster! lol

Hey everyone the thread is a sticky now (I was too lazy to actually message a mod about it but I bothered one today), Bilbo you can stop randomly prodding mods with your poking stick lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] TaintedByte:
This is awesome man, great job on the post. I'm linking to this on my FAQ thread :good:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bilbo524:
Yay sticky!

*puts away full-auto poking stick*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] romeoh:
It's now available in regawood Thread tool and here is the link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=26955832

Sent from EVO 4G LTE stock rom 1.19 hb s-on

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How can i do that while I'm having the latest h boot 1.19 and even the source code of it hasn't been released yet?

sent from EVO 4G LTE stock rom 1.19 hb s-on
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
You can't he wasn't thinking lol you can only use that exploit with hboot 1.12 it doesn't work on anything newer
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Um, that tool unlocks the Bootloader. My response was to the statement that the device could be rooted without unlocking (which it absolutely can't unless you're on the 1.12 HBOOT).
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bilbo524:
I'm now advertising your guide in my sig as well. :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Thanks! I really gotta revise it. I haven't added anything in a day or so and its bothering me there's gotta be something I've overlooked haha
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rootlinux:
Great stuff bro.

Thanks for the time and effort to write this up.

If people read it, it will help them out tremendously.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Thanks, I updated like crazy the first 5 days. I really need to go back and revise it, there's always a way to improve it regardless of whether I'm adding info or rewriting things to read easier
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] romeoh:
I'm sorry man It's my bad. I think i didn't read enough to understand the whole concept in android phones. I though it is easy to unlock Evo 4g lte like my previous htc phone mytouch 4g. Anyway i think I'm gonna be stuck with my current h boot for a long time. At least until the developers figure out a way to get s-off on 1.9 hb.

sent from EVO 4G LTE stock rom 1.19 hb s-on

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That's what I've learned recently om4. Unfortunately I'll be s-on for a while and i will try not to get any ota updates. Unless if it is the jb update :)

sent from EVO 4G LTE stock rom 1.19 hb s-on
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rootlinux:
Yeah, I am going go get mine this week.

Hope I get old hboot. :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
When the ****bdidbthis get stickied nd where the **** was i? Congratsbom finally u do something good lol

Sent from the euphoric state of my mind
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Finally? What do you mean finally do something good?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] regaw_leinad:
I'd just like to point out that ADB stands for Android Debug Bridge, not Development. :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Thanks lol I don't know how I missed that, I've revised it over and over. I even asked others if they could look it over and correct it because I knew something was off
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] regaw_leinad:
No worries, good write up!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] om4:
Really though thanks, most everyone was just like it's great and I'm thinking something is wrong lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Yeah, sorry. I still haven't gotten around to reading it yet. It's kind of long, and I'm notoriously lazy ;).