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[EVO 4G General] Ferenczy68:
LOL, well IBP, you just got called! Step into the ring fine sir, toe the line and may the best man win! (guess I need to hurry up)

Seriously? I'll call out any of you guys, I don't give the northern end of a southern bound rat what you say. I believe the gauntlet was thrown down awhile ago by jamieg71, start producing not just good ROMs but GREAT ROMs. Start finishing your work and taking it as far as humanly possible. If that takes time then by all means, take it. Please don't fill that time whining about this 'dev' or that one...

My dad used to always say, before you piss and moan about your neighbor's yard, clean your own, capiche?

BTW, I do not dev or build or cook or whatever you wanna call it. I don't claim to be good at any of this. But alot of you guys do. So here again, I'll say what jamie said, put up or shut up. You may not have to beat the best to be the best around here, but you damned sure gotta do something other than what has been going on. It's real simple, you want the praise, earn it. I'm done with the childish emotions and all that crap. I don't care about your situation. You say you're gonna build a ROM, script, app, theme, well do it, do it right and stop the drama...

As my boy Dennis Miller says

"That's just my opinion, I could be wrong, awww feck it, who wants cake?"
[EVO 4G General] bimmerman7:
Yeah dude you're right I'm nobody that's done anything, yeah you're right i did want more ICS Roms, and you're right you did deliver and I commend you for all the hard work you've done and hours spent on it. I'm not jealous and I'm not a hater of anybody unless they attack me for having an opinion on something...i don't troll these threads looking for a fight, this is maybe 1% of my life's focus and interest, this is Android, a phone operating system, i don't live this sh*t, i got other things going on...

does this have A2SD built in?;)

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You were the first one in talking sh*t like i personally downed you.... P***y boy? I'm such a p***y for what exactly? Not cyberbullying people with my keyboard courage? Man I can't wait for my upgrade to get of these Evo forums..
[EVO 4G General] Papa Smurf151:
Let me just state here that most of the popular phones were suggested to among other mods including senior mods to create a sticky for all jelly bean talk. This was done to stop the 100's of jelly bean threads being created by multiple users and to stop any one person feelings from getting hurt that got their thread closed for the reasons of there already being a number of other threads created. It was made to stop the issues not create issues. IF someone has a problem with the decisions that I and the mod team they are free to contact me via PM or contact a senior moderator to look into the situation. The thread in question was not created with the Team Dirt logo in it nor was it affiliated with Team Dirt at the time it was created.

Also as for the contributing to useless threads by a moderator. This is my home phone. I am very active around here and I seem to think that I contribute just as much if not more than a lot of the devs around here. In the past off topic threads have been created with the intentions of allowing the users of a specific phone to get to know each other and to give them the opportunity to blow off some steam and joke around with each other. I view the last thread like this as such and was happy to enjoy in the fun as long as it stayed within reason. Again if someone has a problem with this then I would suggest that they again contact me via PM or contact a senior mod/admin to further look into the situation.

If someone has any issues with myself or any other member of the Moderation team for the evo then feel free to take your complaint to the moderation committee. We are all human and do make mistakes but also remember that we do not get paid to do this and spend our free time going through reports and moving threads on top of the contributions that we do on the development side of things. I truly enjoy this and take it as a great honor and hope that some people can understand this.
[EVO 4G General] Ferenczy68:
:D
[EVO 4G General] iBlowpot:
I called you out based around you coming in here to voice your opinion in what one can call a subliminal manner. The title don't ask for opinions p***y, but perhaps you are a ****. Appears to be hard as hell, but really you're sensitive.
[EVO 4G General] Ferenczy68:
I thought you guys were devs and such, turns out you're comedians! :D
[EVO 4G General] veyka:
Seems the grand experiment failed.

I am closing this down, again, as I see no evidence you contacted the senior moderator who closed the last one to get it reopened.

There are also limits to what we will tolerate when it comes to OT threads, and this one and its predecessor strolled over the line.

If you wish to complain, or lobby for the thread to be reopened, feel free to PM one of us, but it would have to be a VERY good reason.
[HTC One X] :
Hello,

yesterday I installed [ROM]29-08-2012 | IceColdJelly - 1.4 - AOKP UNOFFICIAL - JellyBean.

It realy works fine, and I ave no problems.

But there is one thing not working, its my camera.

I have read in other forums that I need the latest gapps.

I have installed the latest apps, but that doesn't helped.

So my question ist, does AOKP support the camera?

Thanks
[HTC One X] hopscotchjunkie:
Yes, of course. I'm using it right now with no problems, and I've not seen anyone mention this. What exactly is the issue; are you getting an error, is it loading at all?

Did you wipe (if coming from another ROM)? Did you flash the boot.img? Have you restored anything or flashed any other mods/kernels/etc?
[HTC One X] :
No, no error.

I have no camera app, when I slide left on the lock screen to the camera nothing happens.

My steps for install was:

1. unlock bootlader => no problem

2. install cmw over recovery => no problem

3. install superusersu with cmw => no problem

4. download latest version from AOKP

5. get the boot.img out of the zip file

6.

adb

adb devices

fastboot flash boot boot.img

fastboot erase cache

=> no problem

7. wipe cache, wipe data/factory reset => no problem

8. copy zip to sdcard install over cwm => no problem

9. install latest gapps => no problem

Before I had the latest Andorid and HTC Sense from me provider, O2 Germany
[HTC One X] hopscotchjunkie:
Odd. The camera is definitely in the ROM, I've just wiped and flashed the ROM zip only (no gapps) and the camera app is present and working correctly. I can only suggest checking the md5 of the zip on your phone (in case it's been corrupted during download or during the transfer to the phone) and if it matches then reflash the ROM and gapps.

Edit: which version of gapps did you use?
[HTC One X] :
I see the packet was crashed.

So I will flash my bootlader and the rom again.

Maybe this time it works.
[HTC One X] :
No it's works all fine.

Thanks for help.

Could be closed.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] pjfriend:
See http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/31/apple-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-patent-lawsuit/

I'm not a patent lawyer, so I'm not going to comment on the validity of the case, but the US does seem like a hostile place for a non US company that competes with Apple.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] musashiro:
my reaction in the form of a meme, i made it myself... :(
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] pjfriend:
The cat's my favourite.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
Feel sorry for us citizens ... I doubt samsung lauches any other product there... apple's stupidity its Just hurting their people... their products are Just a piece of crap... and they wont get any android market person by getting samsung out of game

I dont see chevy or ford suing toyota or ferrari because toyota and ferrari cars has engines and 4 wheels... plain retard

Enviado desde mi n7000 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] nztechblog:
but did anyone patent the form of a car?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] CreepyDroid:
This time it's not about rectangles with rounded corners but some stupid software patents such as slide to unlock and auto-completion. That's pretty sad but I'm surely happy for not living in america, it would suck to only have apple products to choose from.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chancer63:
For me the question is why did Apple get patents of such simple things in the first place?? Why not get a patent for the letter A and every time someone uses an A ..........

I am NOTE amused.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] pjfriend:
There's one that covers clicking on a number from an email to open a dialler. Having to do away with such simple things will render them super powerful dummy phones.

Also v happy to be in Europe over this.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] aalupatti:
i thought this feature was there long time even in early windows mobile times
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] pjfriend:
So did I. Either it's a refinement of the idea or they're trying to claim a patent on an idea kicking around from before they started thinking about making phones.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] altae:
We have to take into consideration two different things here. First Apple has every right to defend it's patents. Everyone of us would do the same if we had valid patents and someone would infringe on them. The one thing that's wrong here isn't exactly Apples behaviour, that's completely legitimate. The problem is the US patent law. E.g. Apple holds a patent for clicking on phone numbers in e-mails to directly call it. They successfully sued HTC because they had infringed on that patent. The question is not whether it's right or wrong to sue, it's law, it's their right to do so. The question is: Why on earth were they able to get this patent? My first WM Smartphone had been able to do that long before the Iphone was available. Why is it possible in the US to patent something which has clearly not been invented by the person/ company who/ that is claiming the patent because the corresponding technology/ software/ whatever existed long before the patent application is filed? That's the real issue here. Most of Apple's patents are no inventions but old technologies that have been improved/ optimized by Apple. To every sane person it should be clear that you cannot patent something you have not invented. And if you use and/ or improve an existing technology which isn't protected by patents you are free to do so but it should also be clear that you cannot patent the outcome because your product is based on something you have not invented and thus is simply not yours. It's not right to claim the invention of someone else for yourself. That should not be protected by the law.

One addition concerning software. E.g. you should not be granted patents for gestures which have been known to mankind for thousends of years (pinch to zoom...), the only thing that's new about it is the fact that the gesture is used with a touchscreen. But the code should be protected. So if someone writes his own code to enable pinch to zoom that's alright but if he uses your code that's infringement. But patenting things like gestures, scrollbars, icon grids, click to call... is just insane. Only imagine what situation we would be in now if it had been possible to patent breaks, breaking lights, steering wheels, seats, seatbelts, windscreens... There would not be many different cars because it would not be possible to build one without infringing on the owners patents. Those things had all been whell known when the car was invented, the only thing new about it was using them to build cars. And that's exactly what Apple has been doing. They used existing technologies to build the Iphone.

Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] DPMAce:
Agree with altae. But I dislike Apple more and more now. I just don't like being told what I should buy. And I want more options, not less. I can say with pride that I've NEVER bought any apple products. They're overpriced, communist design sucks
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] gtranvi:
Overpriced is right. In parts of Asia, those Iphone 4s can cost over $1000usd. That's a lot of money for re branded Samsung hardware, running ios.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] scorpion100:
no wonder they have money than the US government ..i guess they will be the one who buy the us assets ..so you can imagine the whol eof the USA owned and ruled by an apple bite !!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Reynaldinho111:
Lol... I don't even. Can't wait for Samsung to say f**k you apple, make your own damn hardware. In fact they should just refuse to let them use whatever hardware samsung made for the iPhone 5. That'd screw things up. Unfortunately its not that simple :(
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] JulyDerek:
It was. Only problem is that Apple patented it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] 84DGR:
Only time will tell now with aos v ios as google is stepping into the mix by launching a lawsuit against apple based on software similarities. The drop down menu was firstly seen on win mobile yet aos patent it first and then was included in the ios 4.

The whole samsung issue came with sammy not renewing its hardware contract with apple.

The problem is it will only affect the consumer of devices that are more powerful. As apple wont make drastic changes to their product rather adding an S to the back of things that are already released.

U have to give them credit in some regard due to changing the smartphone world for all
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] LaCroyx:
Samsung won't tell apple to f**k off, because they make far more money from delivering hardware to apple than they lost in court.

And on a side note, allthough i find the decision incorrect, maybe that is a good thing, samsung loosing this battle.

It is a kick that will make them create even better devices than before.

And as for apple, they are simply way behind the competition, so their only way of fighting back is by suing other companies.

We don't have to worry though, time will wash away apple, they cannot stand the combined assault of android devices
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] :
Patent law dictates non-obviousness. Most functions were already there, or there were apps for it in Windows.

A they shouldnt have gotten a lot of patents anyways. Patent granters were sleeping.

B The jury spend to little time on validity of Apples claims. Some patent trials have gone on for years, and here in 3 days they go throught 200, plain bullsh*#t

Only good that can come of this is Samsung/competitors tighter on innovation side. Which is a good thing.

That and offering side loading functionality throught apps that add the functionality. Either way Apple is screwed in long run if it wants to continue to innovate. Closed vs open, is like dictators vs the free world. Free world always wins :), in long run anyways.

Sent with a grin (^.^)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] altae:
The base for this decision wasn't the law, the base for this decision was pure protectionism. Why do you think Apple sued Samsung and not google? Because google is an American company and the result would have been completely different. They would not have been able to uphold those ridiculous patents of Apple because that would have hurt another US company (google). Remember the case when Airbus won the competition to build a huge number of aircrafts for the US Army? What happened? Boeing appealed and the Army quickly changed the requirements and Boeing got the the contract. It has always been like this in the US, when it comes to money the economics stand over the law.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] SuperMane:
They are just making a statement for samsung and everyone else. You shouldnt wound what you couldnt kill.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] SealsNavie:
Apples that talk are a joke...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] DPMAce:
I agree apple isn't evolving fast enough. Eventuality they'll just make everyone angry with this patent crap. Instead of giving customers more options, they try to eliminate the competition and limit the options of customers. There's going to be some huge backlash for this
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] beestee:
Apple has become 'The Man' after decades now promoting that they are the opposite. I find it humorous and sad at the same time.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] M3TALLICA:
Are they going to sue iPhone launcher app developer ?

Absurd. But Samsung paid the price for the brickbug.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] rockky:
They sued that South Korean company because they most blatantly copied the IPhone....As much as we love Samsung products let's not forget that. They improved on the IPhone immensely but they're completely derivative. If I'm Apple CEO I'd likely be doing the same thing.

QUOTE=altae;31023573]The base for this decision wasn't the law, the base for this decision was pure protectionism. Why do you think Apple sued Samsung and not google? Because google is an American company and the result would have been completely different. They would not have been able to uphold those ridiculous patents of Apple because that would have hurt another US company (google). Remember the case when Airbus won the competition to build a huge number of aircrafts for the US Army? What happened? Boeing appealed and the Army quickly changed the requirements and Boeing got the the contract. It has always been like this in the US, when it comes to money the economics stand over the law.[/QUOTE]
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ruinkhan:
Back in 2007 Iphone revolutionized phone market by bringing Iphone. Unique design and multi touch screen forced many cell phone companies to start moving ahead rather than having those crappy touch screens like LG VU or HTC Touch.

However after apple gained dominant share in US and other countries it started to show signs of stagnation.

latest devices absolutely dont impress me. I've had Iphone 3g, 3gs and iphone 4, but since I tried android OS I fell in love with it.

Also it looks like Steve jobs was the guy who was holding most of this stupid patent war, look what happened after his death? New management chose different path, a path of desperation.

I say let FCC obsolete most of those stupid patents that are causing so much friction such as rectangular design, universal search engine, etc.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] LaCroyx:
I think this describes best the situation :)))
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] nckgarvey:
yes, but caveman didn't patent it
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] PurpleMelbourne:
Microsoft have patent sharing agreements with Apple. So if Windows Mobile had something of Apples then it doesn't matter. The fact that MS owns half of Apple is pretty helpful for their negotiations!

People don't seem to know that the historical original purpose of patents was to increase development for the benefit of SOCIETY via the method of protecting developers. In the computer age with Internet this old methods are no longer necessary to increase R&D. Big Corporations love patents as it locks out little agile players from competing with them.

Imagine how much R&D would come from Not for Profit companies the way Linux has evolved. EFF and hackers around the world churning out heaps of stuff for fun with no thoughts of fears of legality bullying by the non living organizations known as corporations. About time we END the patent system instead of reforming it. Follow Taiwan's lead on this one and let all ideas proliferate as fast as possible. No more 25 year patent lag time.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Johev:
I 100% agree with your statement. Competition is a nice word....unfortunately the best does not always win, it's the one with the most power. If this has happened the other way around I am not sure how the EU / US relationship would turn out, but that's what you get by having the most advanced and powerful army in the world to back up your interests.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ahsanjavaid:
Bro,

Google cannot be sued at these patent issues because basic android don't have those features and Google also released press note that google have nothing to do with these patents because its not available there is basic platform of android if Samsung copied the apple's patent if they copied then they deserve it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] altae:
Sorry but you should read a bit more before telling me that I am wrong. E. g. among others Apple holds a patent on pinch to zoom. That's a basic Android feature. And if you read about the issue you will even find more features every Android device offers because they come with Android and of which Apple holds patents. If they had been willing they would easily have been able to sue google instead of Samsung. But like I said, they knew why they didn't sue google.

Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antique_sonic:
why nobody sue apple on using "Pull Notification" on its iOS 5 ?

I believe this pull notification has been there for Android before apple "innovate" this thing.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] altae:
Because Android is open source and therefore not patented.

Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antique_sonic:
Ya man.

But still can do patent on its 'design'.

:p
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] langas:
Then, always apple can be pushing google, but google can not push apple.

One of the patents used against sammy was: "mobile telefone rectangular-shaped with round-shaped corners"... mmm How can they have this patent in US???

And the delivery of the court was done in half of time expected, maybe because all of them uses apple devices... This is not justice, this is world war III.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antique_sonic:
Next time u build a phone must use other shape. Perhaps apple shape? :p

So apple Can't sue apple: )

Sent from xda-developers Galaxy N7000 ICS 4.0.4 LRK / CriskeloROM v.11.1 / Speedmod K3-12
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] letters_to_cleo:
Apple have always been envious on Google' success in the smartphone market. Android is a crucial part on why Apple is always going after Samsung in imposing all kind of conniving deceptions.. just to make a stand that their IOS has already been patented long before Samsung has done so.

But what is really the bone to this matter is that, Apple is suing Samsung not because on the legality of the hardware side.. but more on the UI and the skins behind the phone itself... Now if you really look behind the mirror.. we all know Apple is really going after Google... After all, Apple is again going after Android (Going after Samsung itself is just their insinuating factor to alert Google that 'Hey, I'm watching you.').

You put this in a school scenario.. Apple is like the bully kid.. always bullying others all around him... and Google is the tall, silent but muscle bounded kid who just sits all the time at one corner... The bully kid likes to tempt to bully the silent one... but he is afraid that if he tries to go way overboard in instigating a fight with the muscle bunded kid... He knows he is surely going to get one hell of a beating if the other kid fights back....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] freedomispopular:
Apple's pinch to zoom patent uses a very specific software implementation. Android's uses a different software implementation; therefore, no infringement. This same principle applies to many of Apple's patents. Google has been very careful to go out of their way to code Android features in such a way that they do not infringe.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antique_sonic:
Ya man.

+1.

Coz it is the same concept in car also.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] JulyDerek:
Well the Nexus was one of the infringing devices found by the jury, and that's pure Android, so it makes no sense in blaming Samsung.