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[Asus Transformer TF700] fortunz:
For starters, how about the thousands of HD/Tablet versions of apps that mostly contain only a slight interface tweak -- fewer changes than splashtop 2 has compared to 1. Care to name some apps who promise eternal major upgrades for free? At the end of the day, anyone who continues to invest and add features to premium software is going to draw a line and spin off a new version. That the android platform is young and its devs haven't done this as often as those on older platforms doesn't change this longstanding truth of software.

Splashtop's biggest mistake here might have been in naming. If they'd called it Splashtop Secure, there would probably be less of a fuss.
[Asus Transformer TF700] vegandroid:
When i said you can play games, i do not mean freecell, spider solitaire and your regular games. ive been playing skyrim, diablo 3 and portal 2 on this. The first version would also NOT let me play skyrim or any other game for that matter.

i tried the first version and i can DEFINITELY see the upgrades, i dont see how they could be missed.

this is not facebook or twitter, this is a developer forum. those kinds of opinions dont belong here.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Again, I've *never* had to pay for an app upgrade in Android - whether it be a minor or major release.

I'm really curious now - what specific app has charged for a major upgrade??

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What kind of opinions are you referring to?? Regardless of what type of forum this is, I'm still entitled to my opinion!

Are you suggesting that it's "improper" to criticize a developer, simply because this is a "development forum"?? Give me a break.
[Asus Transformer TF700] fortunz:
I've been as specific as you have. But okay, buying Quickoffice Pro doesn't keep you from paying for Quickoffice Pro HD. Buying mobilenoter se doesn't get you mobilenoter se HD, and on and on and on and on and on. Same programs, slightly different UI. Was that level of specificity really required? Have you really never seen HD versions of apps that I referenced above? Versions that are increasingly unnecessary since ICS and up support multiple UIs per apk.

As to the major upgrades, my point on software economics above stands. No one is going to keep endlessly supporting a piece of software once it has saturated its intended market and there are few if any new sales to made. At that point, they'll spin it off with new features and a new price tag, go in app payment on new features, or abandon the project altogether. Android is a young platform, so that hasn't happened as often as it has on older platforms. That doesn't warrant any extra whining when it finally does happen. It's not unprecedented, it's just life.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Those example are *not* version upgrades - they are completely separate products meant for different types of devices (I don't even think the HD versions will run on non-tablet devices). That is not the case with Splashtop V1 -> Splashtop V2.

Anyone - to each their own - I personally choose not to support that developer any more and I wanted to make sure other users were aware of what they are doing. You've helped me illustrate that point perfectly - thank you!

I do not have specific examples, simply because its never happened (a developer charging me for a major upgrade). If you want an example of a major version upgrade that I was *not* charged for, how about Tapatalk, for example - Version 2 was completely free for me since I purchased version 1 - it was not released as a separate product like Splashtop did. Again, that's how apps work in the Play store - go look for yourself! As far as I know, the iOS app store works the same way - once you purchase an app, upgrades are included in that purchase. Upgrades are handled differently on mobile devices than they are on PCs.

Anyway, enough said on the subject - we obviously have different views here and neither is going to change the others mind! Again, I'm just telling potential users how this developer operates, which is *not* how other developers operate in the Play store. I'm simply stating facts. The users can then decide on their own.
[Asus Transformer TF700] fortunz:
What's in a name? Apparently I was right. If splashtop had named it Splashtop Secure instead of v2, there would be less of a backlash.

As I already laid out, Android makes it possible to build multi-UI apks, and so no, non tablets would have no trouble running them with some minor thought on the part of the dev. And again, the changes are both minor and superficial, as compared to substantial changes to under the hood functionality that splashtop v2 has undertaken.

Getting a freebie doesn't mean you get eternal free major upgrades. Sometimes, when a company feels they've got room to grow still, they'll throw customers some freebies. That's not new. But android hasn't suddently changed software economics to the point that no one will ever charge for major upgrades again.

The rule of thumb hasn't changed, the timescale has. In Google Play, as everywhere, once a dev has saturated sales for a market, they'll spin off/charge per feature/abandon. Money doesn't grow on trees. It's that simple.

You're welcome to state your opinions. But you look silly when you call your opinions "facts". So I fixed that for ya. :good:

I, of course, am not trying to change your mind. I'm letting others know that splashtop isn't doing anything unusual here, and that THIS IS FREE, and grabbing it doesn't require them to give up free external access through asus mycloud (splashtop v1), therefore, there's zero reason not to grab it now. Zero, zilch, nada. Hard to believe that's a controversial opinion, but that's the internet for ya. You can't even give stuff away without pissing someone off.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
You win - enjoy that monthly fee that isn't present in the existing version (aka V1)! :) Free is not free when a monthly fee is involved!
[Asus Transformer TF700] fortunz:
Funny, I'm not paying a monthly fee. So it must really be free!
[Asus Transformer TF700] vegandroid:
jesus ****ing christ, are we really arguing over this ****? i tell people that splashtop 2 is free and its turned into an argument over having to pay a

$10 A YEAR

if you want to access it away from you home. its not a debate, its me telling you theres a free app to download if you so choose to download it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
You are missing the point - it's not about how much the fee is or even that it's free or not.

My point is this - can you imagine if *every* developer started releasing every major version release as a separate product? So the Play store would have a Tapetalk V1, Tapatalk V2, etc... They play store would get awful crowded really fast! :) I, for one don't want to have to start paying for a product again and again, every time the developer releases a new version. That's not how it's worked in the past and I, for one don't want it to work like that in the future. Nor do I want other developers to start charging monthly fees for functions that were available for free in previous releases.

It's just the point here - Splashtop developer is trying to get around the standard Play Store model by releasing a major version upgrade as a completely separate product.

Just because they give the upgrade away for free "for a limited time", doesn't make it right.
[Asus Transformer TF700] vegandroid:
Optional – {AAP, Anywhere Access Pack}

It’s now

FREE

for

existing

Splashtop Remote Desktop users!!!

Splashtop Bridging Cloud – seamless connectivity across any network.

Self-optimizing – fast and responsive over 3G or Internet

Secure – based on the same SSL/AES-256 security method as online banking and shopping.

Multi-device support – upgrade on one device, and enjoy the same benefits on all your other Splashtop devices.

SOURCE
[Asus Transformer TF700] jyan_osu:
It's still a 1 year free time limit for aap, I just signed up and sent them the link on their website and they replied saying their policy is only good for one year because of costs associated with running the discovery servers and such.

-Update-

Here's the email I got last night:

Splashtop 2 Support, Sep 05 20:09 (PDT):

Dear,

The policy is that our existing Android users of Splashtop Remote Desktop HD/THD can get AAP free for 1 year. And AAP free for lifetime is just for iPad users. The reason of the difference is that iPad user can not use Splashtop 1 at all after upgrade but Android still can.

Splashtop 2 relies on our own global relay servers for improved 3G/Internet performance, reliability, and security.

Please understand that the Anywhere Access infrastructure is costly for us to operate, and this is the reason for needing an ongoing subscription model.

It is difficult for us to make the policies.

We will continue to invest and improve our product and infrastructure for our users.

If there is any problem, please let us know, and thank you for using this Support service.
[Asus Transformer TF700] vegandroid:
in all honesty, im okay with that. i understand they have to spend money in order to make things progress and they also have to make money. thats business.
[Asus Transformer TF700] mc_365:
It looks like I lost my original splashtop app that came with the TF700. I never used it since I was not familiar with it, I had experience with teamviewer. Anyway I download the v2/hd version just cuase I saw it was free. Today I went to try it out cause I read about the media streamer and discovered it was only for local network use. After reading a bit more I think if I had the original one on my device I would be able to use it across the web. So how do I get the original one back hopefully without hard reset? Did I loose it after the Jelly Bean OTA. or does it get overwritten with the new one now since I re-installed from the play store after the OTA.
[Asus Transformer TF700] MartyHulskemper:
I'm currently downloading this:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7yjZEEHUmsBbnA0U0RPS2NrRjg/edit?pli=1

The file repo is from ZeusROM's thread (thanks zeus34!) -- MyCloud and all the rest of the bloatware ;) is in there.
[Asus Transformer TF700] bosotros:
I'm glad this thread showed up. Thanks! I tried splashtop on my TF101 over a year ago and then forgot about it because I was under the impression I needed the paid version and I didn't want to pay for it, didn't think I'd use it. I downloaded this new HD version thanks to this thread and now I'm blown away at how functional it is. Accessing my desktop's three TB of stuff and all the programs while sitting at Starbucks is worth $0.99mo to me. If I use it enough after this first month I'll do another month. If I decide I'm not using it remotely enough I can stop and not have paid for any more than I used. 99 cents a month seems fair to me for what it does. If I hadn't got the V2 app for free I would never have spent the 10 bucks they will be charging for it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] bluejay2345:
I was a big fan of version 1, but since they started this stupid account requirement and having to pay to use across networks with version 2 I won't touch it. I still have the HD version 1 I bought and it works fine with games.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vegandroid:
go get it if you have a tablet.

Splashtop 2 HD
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ForcedZucchini:
Old interface was better and simpler. A.I.type keyboard sometimes doesnt work with it or has a huge keypress delay. Hp Touchpad with cyanogenmod 9 doesnt have a proper resolution that fills the whole screen Wont. Allow you to connect to a desktop that has a wired connection on you're wireless router without paying for splashtop anywhere.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vegandroid:
im able to use my computer on it and its plugged in with an ethernet cable. playing skyrim too just to test it out.. pretty happy about this.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
These mods are based on the latest systemui from Clark's v 1.1, but should work all the way back to around 0.0.9 AND, they do work on the latest Version 2.0 ICS

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/skulls.zip

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/tinycircle.zip

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/fullcirclepurp.zip

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/colorbattery.zip

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/horizontalgreen.zip

Castaway - Now in Update Me !

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/brokencircle.zip

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/XEversion.zip

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/NeonGreenLines.zip

8/31 - Update / Trial

Here is center clock mod battery, this mod is like the tiny circle mod above, and does not have the AM/PM feature ...http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/centerclocktinycircle.zip

THANK ME...Thanks! :p:D;):crying:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] clark44:
Mine...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] dazednconfused:
Thank you sir. More awesomeness for an excellent rom.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] shehroze3:
does this work with the 1x/3g mod??
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
Yuuuup... They all have it...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Humzaman:
I'm guessing these won't work with the center clock mod? I hope they do.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
No...sorry....
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Humzaman:
Yeah I can wait. Have school so... Yeah. Thanks again.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Humzaman:
Np just a sec.

Edit: Is the pic showing up for you? On my phone it just shows a white square.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Humzaman:
Ya I don't know why the pic isn't working... and of course I'll thank you!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Humzaman:
Let's see if this pic works.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Humzaman:
Again thanks for all your help!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Humzaman:
Do you mind if I send you a systemui.apk to add the center clock?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] steve97ta:
Awesome stuff, any chance of just having green instead of the blue color from 100-75? Using the broken circle center clock no am/pm

Or just the center clock with broken circle battery lol
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Humzaman:
Oh its Bizdaddy's thread. I'm not sure how to link with the xda app but the thread is a few down from yours in themes and apps.

In the thread, the one I chose was the blue with blue slider one.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Humzaman:
Thanks bro! Youre too awesome.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] steve97ta:
Thanks brother looks good too
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] socalnative1:
Hey will these battery mods work with paranoid android ROM?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] socalnative1:
Well I downloaded them tried installing one it said installed successfully and when I hit reboot it just got stuck on the boot action... I had to do a factory reset wipe cache/delvick cache. I'm gonna say it didn't work :/. If I did something wrong please inform me so I can try again I would love for these to work with my ROM.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] socalnative1:
No I do not
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Moguledyouth:
Yes, but the full battery notification is also part of systemui.apk so your battery mods negate any other when they overwrite the file.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Bradfordv:
ok this is an odd question got anything using the detroit red wings logo or the misfits skull?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Moguledyouth:
Any way to get the center clock mod to not display when at the samsung lockscreen? I was pretty sure I saw this feature around somewhere, where the clock wouldn't appear until you were past the lockscreen.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] dragon_rckr:
Good to see this thread, a fast got too instead of digging through the FreeGS3 thread :D

Wonder if this was following my suggestion :silly:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Humzaman:
That's how it is for me. Doesn't show until I unlock my phone.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Moguledyouth:
which one exactly are you using? Thx.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Ramondel:
Naddict,

I just PM'd you about getting a Digital Number with Center Clock no AM/PM from UOT-08-27-47-1 that Clark updated. Either one of these will work for me if you can make it with the Center Clock option.

Thanks in Advanced,

Ramon:D
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Humzaman:
Broken circle with center clock and am/pm.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Ramondel:
That is the one, do I need to also flash the center clock with no AM/PM?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
No, I didn't think that was the right one...stand by I am uploading....NOW!!!!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/cntrclock_digitl#s_noAP.zip

PS, thank me...I need 1 million thanks by Friday...:crying::crying::crying:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Ramondel:
That is the ticket, you have been thanked but will do it again on your next post.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
Aww shucks !!! Thanks, glad it worked this time! :D:D
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] wolfeyes30:
Is it possible to get a grey honeycomb circle with center clock/no pm-am? Make the color same as the grey clock? Looks grey to me.

Thanks
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
Not sure exactly what you want? Go here..http://uot.dakra.lt/kitchen/

click on battery use this mod...browse through the batteries there and take a screen of what it is you want. I know, a little PITA, but I want to make you happy first time around...so that'll help me...thanks!

EDIT: I think this is what you want?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] wolfeyes30:
Before I lose this from my clipboard.

From the evo lte forum.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1681063

Okay... Now to uot
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] wolfeyes30:
Honeycomb one
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
No problem, I am gonna take a shot and use the basic honeycomb battery with center clock mod...see if that'll get you started anyhow...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] wolfeyes30:
Why do my URL links go to the wrong page on the forums... Damn it. Sorry about that.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
No sweat, your mod is brewing...check back in about 15 minutes or so...

and thank me...or the witches curse will take effect...:crying::crying::crying::highfive:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] wolfeyes30:
Thank you man.. Appreciate it.

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and thank me...or the witches curse will take effect...:crying::crying::crying::highfive:[/QUOTE]

Oh no... not another curse. Still trying to shake off my ex wife's curse ;)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
Oh no... not another curse. Still trying to shake off my ex wife's curse ;)[/QUOTE]

Ha! You are cursed too???

Oh, BTW here you go, let me know if this is what you wanted! :D

Honeycomb center clock, no am/pm

>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/honeycombcenterclock.zip
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] wolfeyes30:
Ha! You are cursed too???

Oh, BTW here you go, let me know if this is what you wanted! :D

Honeycomb center clock, no am/pm

>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/honeycombcenterclock.zip[/QUOTE]

I rather live with this curse then live with her again, that's for sure :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] wolfeyes30:
It worked bro. Thank you.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
Good deal...enjoy the mod and your curse!:D:D
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] drahcir0789:
Would you be able to make a battery mod like this one from Wicked Sensations?

I just used the one from his mod section.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Didact74:
Naddict,

Do you have the center clock MOD code? It would make things a lot easier to implement I would imagine being that its only about 4 lines that need to be changed and they are not even smali files. If you dont have the code I will post up a "How-To" tomorrow in the development section so everyone can do it themselves. I image it would be easier to take your battery mods and add the centerclock to them rather than vise-versa.

By the way, I am also working on a center-clock toggle in the time-date section of settings. toggle-on for center clock, toggle off for stock :).
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
Putting up the code is fine with me...thanks!

For those not into code...all you need to do is pull the system ui from the center clock mods that are provided by clark44 (update me), use that system ui in the kitchen. :cool:

EDIT:

Also, it looks like clark is experimenting with the Morph style of mod, using the universal flasher tool, this should make things even easier...:victory::good:

Clark, this it? http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/threads/about-villaintheme-system.4971/
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
For Tricex2

here is center clock mod (no am/pm) Castaway battery

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/cntrclockcastaway.zip

Thank me...need a million thanks by noon...or there'll be a shootout at the corral...:highfive::crying::crying:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
I think this is it?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/GlowingCrysis.zip

Thank me, trying to catch up to Clark44 by the end of the week, Ha!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Speedin07si:
Works great!

Sent from Pluto.

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Sent from Pluto.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Moguledyouth:
Center Clock with NO Battery

I know that some people were asking for this so I thought I should post it, I managed to Frankenstein a mod with Center Clock no am/pm, no full battery notification and NO battery. The only thing that it's missing is for the clock to not be visible when the lockscreen is present. I'm hoping that someone much better than me can actually decrypt the smali files and fix this last little item. As it stands this mod accidentally turned out to be 99% of what I was trying to achieve since I use the TEAM Battery Bar.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] tmcwilliam01:
Hey Naddict it looks like the battery fully charged notification slipped back in with this one. Can you strip it back out?

Ty:)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] dragon_rckr:
That clock widget looks nice, which one is it?

@Naddict Can you make a 300* speedometer battery, like this one http://db.tt/RMaLPyDU
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Speedin07si:
It's called One Free Clock.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sunnykwong.freeomc

There is a lot of styles it has, and a paid app to.

Sent from Pluto.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] dragon_rckr:
Thanks, I'm going to checkt it out :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
:) sorry.. None of the mods are really mine... They are all care of UOT kitchen....
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] dragon_rckr:
oh poo :(

I'll keep using the broken circle then :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
Sorry... UOT only lets you bake one ui.... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1848590 is my only option.... For now.... ;)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
Heads up... wolfeyes30 has mastered UOT.... He can bake mods! :D:D:D

Hope he posts some here... My drop box is full. :D
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] stu5797:
Great job on these!! Is there a way to get the date centered with lower case am/pm and the GREY axiom honeycomb battery percentage theme?

I would greatly appreciate it!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
Need someone to test this new flashable

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/BarGraphFreeGS3.zip

see attached pic for what it is supposed to look like...let me know;)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
one more test zip...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54142362/XEVersionFreeGS3.zip

see attached...try it out and report
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Speedin07si:
Downloaded and tried to flash in twrp 2. And came back failed tried 3 times.

Sent from Pluto

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Same thing failed when tried to flash.

Sent from Pluto
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Naddict:
OK, thanks, I really appreciate the help. Same issue for me....OOOOOHHHH CLA--AAAARK ?????

EDIT: Good news...thanks to Clark that is...we are back in business...