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[Galaxy S III General] b-eock:
IDK if you know, but

FREE RAM IS WASTED RAM IN ANDROID

, The Android OS is based off of Linux, Linux handles memory much more efficiently than Windows. You don't get speed increases just by adding RAM to the system. Linux uses all the RAM it can so that everything is cached and ready to opened in a seconds notice. That way there is no waiting/loading time for the most part. You obviously, along with many others on XDA, don't get it. More RAM is not always better, while you can have more multi-tasking, the normal user doesn't have a million apps open at once... They play games, browse the internet, youtube. They don't understand the redrawing/reloading of an app. It isn't a problem that I have...
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
The only benefit would probably be better multitasking and quicker response loading web pages due to larger cached held in memory but not for the US version as they only have 2 cores. We have extra cores which balance it out. I'm comparing international vs international lte

But it won't be a massive difference I mean u will definitely feel the difference but standard s3 will not be a slug compared to it no way. And yes spare memory is wasted memory
[Galaxy S III General] yatezy:
There is a bit of redraw in the browser though, I asked the other day but didn't get an answer.

Is the redraw in the browser due to poor memory management or a lack of ram?
[Galaxy S III General] InevitableDJ:
If Samsung release the 2gb quad core, it'll seem like they are pulling an apple on us. Release something then release something else a few months later
[Galaxy S III General] sebarkh:
Anyway many people feel deceived by samsung... That's crazy... We must be really stupid.

99% of us wouldn't even notice the difference.

Human nature.... Give me more, more, more... Although I don't really need it....

I dont give a s*t about it anymore.

S3 is good as is. Period.

Sent from my Galaxy SIII
[Galaxy S III General] MattBooth:
The extra RAM will be very useful, to be honest. One Less TouchWiz redraws. Two, more programs open in the background and preloaded into it. Like we say, unused RAM is wasted RAM. Also, stuff like Linux on Android would be much better with that much free RAM available and three, it just future proofs the device even further.

Also, the US version scores higher on memory relateed tests.

I will be getting this for sure. Black AND more RAM AND 4G later on in my contract? Yes please.

Also, anyone who doesn't think i9300 ROMs will work... Surely they must? The only thing hardware specific is the kernel. Being that there's only an extra modem to account for (since the extra RAM doesn't matter to either the kernel or the ROM) it should be fine!

Needless to say, I'll be getting one of these!
[Galaxy S III General] Alucius116:
I'm broke so I never bought it to begin with so when I get my upgrade soon I can buy whatever version of s3 or note 2 that's available. Should have been patient
[Galaxy S III General] ciscostud:
A lot of people are *****ing because of the lack of ram but I wonder how the people with the 2gb snapdragon are feeling about their dual cores being replaced with a quad.

So if you think about it... all early buyers are missing out on something.

The quad with 2gb is almost ready. It was bound to happen so why feel so betrayed.
[Galaxy S III General] MasterTB:
All I see is they fu.... ed us over. Every one who bought the International SGS 3 with 1 lousy GB of ram should be pissed off right now. I know I am. The worse part is that I knew that 1 GB of ram was not going to be enough for a phone as powerfull as this and I bought it anyway, against my better judgemet.

God I hate that my SGS 2 can do more multitasking than my SGS 3 this really SUCKS BIG TIME.

f...u Samsung.
[Galaxy S III General] PR_Grim:
If all thdie rumors were true, then why didn't Samsung showed it at ifa along with their new lineup?
[Galaxy S III General] PR_Grim:
Take a look at this

Cellular+Phone

Cellular-Networks:GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)

Cellular_Data;Links:GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+

Call+Alert:64 -chord melody

Vibrating:Alert:Supported

Speakerphone_:Supported

Secondary+Cellular+Phone

Dual;Cellular-Network;Operation:Parallel operation

Secondary;Cellular+Networks:LTE2600 (B7), LTE800 (B20)

Secondary;Cellular:Data+Links:LTE

And compare them to this take of specs.

None of you who want it to use it in US would be able to make use of LTE. CHECK THE FREQUENCY.
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
Well I know a lot of us never expected the LTE to work in the U.S. Hell, even among U.S. carriers, LTE isn't compatible. Anyone who thought that the International version would come with U.S. LTE was deluding themselves.
[Galaxy S III General] PR_Grim:
+1 :thumbup:
[Galaxy S III General] lelinuxien52:
Maybe because it's only an hardware update and not a new kind of product. Wait and see !
[Galaxy S III General] EdgaBimbam:
For those who are saying that 1gb is enough:

I had note and s2 both of them have also 1gb ram but i could do better multitasking than with s3... seems that s3 touchwizz is heavier+ new samsung apps which also consumes a lot of ram.... Even at latest jb leaks available rams increased by 40mb and it is because s3 needs more ram... ofc 2gb ram too much but better to have more than having less
[Galaxy S III General] x92:
with many saying s3 with 1gb ram is multitasking worst than s2 or note. I start to worry about the performance of future android update which will be surely include Touchwiz in the ROM. Next android version might takes up even more ram.
[Galaxy S III General] MasterTB:
Here's a simple test for ya.

On your SGS II open the contacts app right after boot. Then start hogging the ram, open as many apps as you like, play games, listen to music and do some web if you like, the contacts app will never take longer than a breath to open again after that first start. That's because the system never runs out of memory and never has to close it.

Try to do that on your SGS III..... good luck. That's when I knew that 1GB of ram was not good enough on this phone.

The first time I had to wait almost 2 seconds for the contacts app to open midd day, after browsing youtube I realized what a mistake Samsung had made.
[Galaxy S III General] Skander1998:
Oh my god! you wasted 1.23429374 seconds of your life to load the contact's application.

You should sue samsung.
[Galaxy S III General] Deliximus:
LTE 2600 works in Canada as Bell, Rogers, (i think TELUS) deploys BOTH AWS and 2600 band for LTE. The only problem is that their websites don't differentiate the converge on their 'coverage maps". This is a fact as they have a mobile stick that specifically runs on the 2600 band.

I am proud that Samsung released something better. They need to keep innovating and pushing the envelope. 4 months is fast, but that's the way it is in the mobile industry or you might get left behind.
[Galaxy S III General] MasterTB:
That wasn't the point. If that is the only thing you read, you missed it.
[Galaxy S III General] lelinuxien52:
I think it's software issue, not a lack of RAM.
[Galaxy S III General] sebarkh:
+1
[Galaxy S III General] MasterTB:
Maybe, I'm starting to think that Samsung set the free ram limits too high and that's why there are so few tasks that can remain active at the same time.

Besides that, the jellybean leaks are nowhere near as butter smooth as the CM10 leaks, even with the old HW composer in CM10. Samsung needs to step up here and get their game on.
[Galaxy S III General] oswade:
Optus and telstra in australia just announced the 4G SGS3.

Im wondering if it's identical to the i9305...? on the carrier sites it states that the LTE is 800/1800/2600, whereas I keep seeing only 800/1800 listed for international specs. Everything else seems the same.

I think international specs maybe misquoted and actually are 3-band LTE.. Has anyone got a reliable source?

Finally, I really hope this device has near 100% rom compatibility with i9300 roms.. that would make life easier for us who like custom roms.. if its just kernel and modem difference that is good too!

EDIT: forgot to ask, does it still have fm radio?
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
WOO HOOOO IT IS AVAILABLE for pre - order and 2GB of ram which I am ordering as we speak :P
[Galaxy S III General] wackyD:
Where is it available for pre-order? Cant see it on either the telstra or samsung websites..
[Galaxy S III General] mikereidis:
+1 for ROMs. I hope it's the same or similar Exynos SOC as GT-i9300. Is Korean variant same SOC ?

Re: FM: My guess is yes. Almost every International Samsung phone has FM, and all high end models.

Most likely same si4709 chip as in S/S2/S3/Note/Player. And likely with record function as in Note and S3.

IMO, one or more of the US carriers specify "remove/disable FM" so as to encourage data consuming streaming.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Only Optus right now but I'm not ordering from there as its only 16gb version I know a supplier I'm wanting either 32gb or 64gb version

And fm is available on it it's exactly like the one now only with 2gb ram and 4g available

It is quad I repeat It is quad :p
[Galaxy S III General] mikereidis:
GALAXY S III 4G ? : https://www.optus.com.au/shop/mobilephone/samsung/4ggalaxys3?sid=AFeat:4GSGS3:04092012NHP

Doesn't say quad or 2 GB anywhere. Sure this isn't like the US LTE model ?
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Thats what I thought But I called them to make sure and they confirmed Quad + 2GB Ram :)
[Galaxy S III General] matttye:
Name ANY manufacturer that issued a recall and allowed people to pay a little extra for better specs.

Good luck ;)
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Be aware I asked the guy with online chat and he confirmed the correct specs then I called optus over the phone and they dont have a clue.. LOOL not too worry I spoke to my guy and he has confirmed the GT-I9305 will be released and I will be importing the 32GB if the price is right so im waiting on reply. Australia Only releasing 16gb Version and they dont even know the proper specs.. I probably know more then them.. Stupid Call centers in Phillipines dont have any technical training what so ever.
[Galaxy S III General] lelinuxien52:
We must wait and see. In France, they haven't LTE network (they just start installation on few cities for test), so no problem for the next year with I9300.
[Galaxy S III General] oswade:
Is the model the same as international i9305? Some spec pages i saw listed the LTE as 800/2600 but not 1800. If it is a typo and international also supports 1800mhz, then we can get it cheaper! :)
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
I'm only worried that we will lose development support from great devs..
[Galaxy S III General] lelinuxien52:
+1. Totally agree with you. Devs will go on I9305 for sure. :'(
[Galaxy S III General] mikereidis:
My suspicion is that GT-I9305 will be 32 GB to start and later 64 GB.

I suspect a 16 GB model is really a variant of the US LTE version.

But I'm just speculating as are most of us.

Don't be so sure. MANY people/devs jumped on the first "canonical" International models: 9000, 9100, 9300. The follow-ups to these have never done as well as the original.

How many devs sold their 9300s to get the US/Canada/Germany/etc LTE versions ? Same for the follow-ons to the 9100 GS2.

And if the 9305 sports the same, or similar Exynos SOC, then I think ROMs will be created that support 9300 and 9305 both.
[Galaxy S III General] lelinuxien52:
I hope you're right. I enjoy my I9300 and I wouldn't change for another variant.
[Galaxy S III General] jamin567:
wow i have black edition.. you would like it i bet that
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
You definately would change it given the option for free. Who wouldnt. It the exact same thing but better. No brainer there, It has an extra GB of ram and an optional 4G option if you which to go down that road. everything else is EXACT
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
I've never had a problem with the 1GB version. Then again I have removed just about all the non-essential programs. :)

Never any slowdowns even when I play intensive games or watch movies.
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
It's not slowdowns when running memory intensive tasks, it's the multitasking capability. I don't care what anyone says, on the latest ICS stock ROM from Samsung (with non essentials frozen), you WILL get redraws of the contact list, messaging app, Nova launcher, etc if you use the stock browser long enough. While I understand this may be because of ****ty coding on Samsung's behalf, it doesn't happen at all on my SGS2 still running stock Samsung Gingerbread. Reason is simple: It constantly has more free RAM available when my SGS3 dips down to <50MB free after a day or two of use.

I'm on day 2ish after a complete reboot, and when going to my applications list, half of the items just say "Restarting..." as the RAM is hovering around 50MB free. NOT GOOD.

Say what you will, but the 2GB will be a huge help. Definitely not a big enough reason for me to purchase it all over again, but people need to stop downplaying the RAM issue on stock Samsung ROMs with only 1GB RAM.
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
Not really the 1GB RAM that's the problem, it's all the crap in the Touchwiz ROMs. :) My One X has 933MB to work with instead of the 781 or so on my GS3.

Really hoping Jelly Bean will fix any problems. (Although I've never experienced any screen redraws....)
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Even tho I will be getting the New SG3 .In regards to the standard one I have now I must say I NEVER reboot my phone and I never have seen it below 50MB free ram. I dont understand why your having this problem
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
I understand this, but I do actually use and enjoy some of the features in the Samsung stock ROMs. This is with just about everything else I don't need disabled (Allshare, S voice, etc).

Again, apples to apples: Don't get these redraws on my SGS2 running a stock Samsung ROM. Less features, so 1GB will do. Doesn't work too well with the SGS3 unfortunately.

With you in the last bit, hope JB addresses these issues.

I really wish people would stop posting useless posts like this. Let me walk you through this plainly:

Everyone's setup/usage is different. I have apps installed for work (Exchange, Lotus Notes Traveler, Swype, etc) that you more than likely don't.

Key point: My SGS2 has the exact same apps installed and don't ever dip that low. The problem is what Baldilocks accurately attributed: The SGS3 stock ROM simply consumes more memory vs its predecessor. You have less to begin with, you'll have less to work with. I never get redraws with the SGS2, I get them quite frequently on the SGS3, especially when coming out of a memory intensive app. Yes, this may be partially attributed to crappy code by Samsung, but again, the extra memory mitigates this.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Does this count? , Skype, Tango, Facebook, Viber, Whats app. Exchange and more. I am sure it does count
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
Again, the point of this discussion flew right over your head. This isn't a penis contest. I have several of those apps you listed and not some of the others. How the apps (I have and you don't) stay in memory and how much the consume when in memory, don't care to go there. Point is: I don't get redraws on the SGS2 with the exact same apps installed when I do on the SGS3.

I'd like to assume all of us are savvy enough to freeze/uninstall **** we don't need. I get great battery life, and any apps the cause excessive wakelocks either get uninstalled or frozen until I need it. This isn't some mystical "your phone is setup wrong" or "my phone is supremely different" BS. It's simply a case of where Samsung tried to stuff more features into the same space, and clearly, that was a misstep.
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
Which is odd, because Sense is definitely more heavy and the changes go deeper than Touchwiz. At least you can freeze Touchwiz Launcher.

I think that HTC just implemented their ROM in a more efficient way.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Well Android is meant to be managing. I am using jelly bean now which has an extra 50mb ram to play with not much I know but Im willing to get another 10 apps that consume memory and watch android do its trick.
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
That's the hilarious part, Touchwiz Launcher is actually frozen as I'm running a very lightweight Nova Launcher.

Agreed on that second comment, stock Samsung ROM seems to be a giant bloated pig even with all the unused crap disabled.

I know Android is supposed to do its thing, caching/closing/whatever. But with less free RAM, there will be a whole lot more of that happening vs than if there were more. This isn't hard to comprehend.

NOW, with that said, much of this could be Samsung's crappy implementation. Like discussed above, I'm hoping this improved with JB. On that note, have you seen such an improvement on JB in this regard?
[Galaxy S III General] Baldilocks:
I have heard that the latest Jelly Bean ROMS don't have the redraw issue.

I have my build.prop dalvik heap size changed to 192MB instead of the 256MB and I haven't experienced any redraw issues since then. Don't know if that's placebo or what but it's worth a shot to try and see if it works for you.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Your the one that has to test it as your the one facing the problem. I am not having such probem now if you say all the apps your using are kiling the ram, You would be the perfect test. Chuck on JB LI7 and latest Siyah Kernel which is the fastest combo to date and see what happens with all those apps you have
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
Good reminder, tried this hack with a much older ICS stock ROM, seemed to be placebo. Never tried with the latest BTU drop, will give it a go.

May just do that when I get some time, especially since some are reporting improvements with the redraw issue.
[Galaxy S III General] frat289:
does anyone know if its available in 32 and 64gb? is it thicker? what are the available colors? does roms on i9300 work on i9305?
[Galaxy S III General] b-eock:
Its funny you say that, if you know anything about the Android OS, you would know that each increment of updates is more resource intensive (RAM wise) and needs more of it. On my old SGS 1 (Captivate on stock GB and rooted) having 512MB of RAM and only 368/378 of usable meomory with the system loaded into that. I could hover at about 135MBs used. If I put stock samsung ICS on it, i think it would die.
[Galaxy S III General] Madarox:
I don't live in europe so I'm ok with it:p I don't need 2 gigs of RAM anyways since I never open more than 5 or 6 apps(didn't try opening more)+more open apps=more battery drain.I do agree that they should have equipped it with 2 gigs of RAM(or at least 1.5) in the 1st place tho.And maybe a 12mpx sensor.
[Galaxy S III General] lelinuxien52:
As people created new threads about this, I would indicate that one thread already exist for more than a week!
[Galaxy S III General] EdgaBimbam:
after you have installed app, you will get redraw 100% for sure. Because it is something related with android OS. Seems that it refreshes all appz also that installed some seconds ago.
[Galaxy S III General] kevindd992002:
Where can we buy this again?
[Galaxy S III General] Jake_09:
Anyone know if this version will be compatible with T-Mobile?
[Galaxy S III General] skydrome1:
Definitely agree with you on this one there. I'm using the international version of the S3 LTE and I am already utilizing more than 1GB of RAM. To give you guys an idea, I'm on stock Samsung Jelly Bean, with the following applications open: chrome (which I'm using to type this message), default browser (2 tabs open), Google Now, WhatsApp, task manager and play store. Task manager shows that I'm using about 1.2GB of RAM. So yeah.

On a sidenote, I can confirm that this thing is pretty darn fast. And yes, this has the Exynos 4412 and 2 gigs of RAM.
[Galaxy S III General] treble4:
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/pay-monthly/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-lte-titanium/
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
That's weird as I was playing with i9305 one right out of the box with carrier bloat and it showing 1.4gb free ram. That's with the default system apps open

Another user got root and removed all bloatware and I would assume has his own applications running had again around 1.4gb free ram by you having used 1gb of ram is more then what ive seen yet. I even seen the Korean version screen shot on 1.2gb free ram and this looked like it was using plenty of apps. But obviously the more you use the device the more things will load up into the memory so I bet you with your usage of 1gb ram you compare the application manager with one of the I9300 and I bet you will have double the amount of apps loaded into your memory comparing as even if you physically don't have the app loaded android will have it loaded in cache so it's quicker to reload next time
[Galaxy S III General] baileyjr:
If you use system tuner pro you can dig into the settings and see how android is allocating the memory and selectively closing down apps etc.

This is a snapshot from my i9300. You can also change the default behaviour...

Its also interesting to see which apps are loaded into memory at any given time.

I haven't opened half of the apps that are running in the background.. It looks like the android system has chosen to load them and cache them in memory just in case I may decide to run them... Some are default system apps obviously.
[LG Optimus Black] j0ris:
Looking for a stable, snappy Gingerbread ROM with working GPS and compass.

I tried Zeus 6.39, which seemed great, except that I can't seem to get GPS and the compass to work reliably. I do get a GPS fix quite fast, but after that my location skips around quite a bit, and the compass is also not that reliable. In fact the compass mode in Google Maps 6 is completely absent (which can be solved by installing 5.12).

I don't care much for fancy launchers or themes, just a snappy, stable GB ROM with working GPS & compass would be enough.
[LG Optimus Black] Systemfire:
Just use the standard, stable Cyanogen Mod 7.2 I'm currently using it and my compass and GPS work fine. Hope that helped and good luck :)
[LG Optimus Black] jaulomero:
Hello:

I would like to confirm if my OB has a hardware problem. My OB doesn't fix GPS, withj GPS Test, all satellites signals are between 15 and 30m with clear weather and total sky visibility. Are normal those levels?

I think that this problem comes from a OB drop. Could the antenna be damaged? Would this problem be solved changing case with antennas?

Thanks in advance.
[LG Optimus Black] Zulda:
Try this ROM:

http://www.androidforum.4fan.cz/ind...ck/156-rom-ravenous-30-jellybean-images-234gb

I had also problems with GPS, I even bought extrenal bluetooth GPS module. With this ROM, GPS work fine for me.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] xamindar:
Has anyone had this issue? After a while my maps will start and gmail will flip out and then show a black screen. They seem to always do it at the same time and will not start working again until a reboot. I have tried killing maps and gmail and letting them restart but it doesn't fix it.

Any ideas? Other things sometimes become unstable as well like the settings interface.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] alx5962:
I have the same problem with Google Chrome (displaying white page only) but after killing it, everything is back to normal. For Gmail, most of the time a reboot is needed to fixh the issue on mine.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] m.aicardi:
Same issue here. Calendar involved, too!