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[Galaxy Note II General] jdw97702:
Will the note 2 work on T-Mobile us ? Haven't seen that info yet. Wondering if I will be able to get 4g with it.
[Galaxy Note II General] Staceymobiler:
Hmmm not sure. I just know there will be 3g 4g and lte variants
[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
The spec sheets show the same bands as international note 1. That means no 1700 and no T Mobile 4 G
[Galaxy Note II General] Tuffcheez:
Now I'm in a dilemma, I'm ready to upgrade but I'm disappointed with the gn2. I like the uniqueness of the gn1 particularly in its shape and dimensions, which unfortunately has been lost in gn2. Instead the gn2 looks like the dad of gn1 had an affair with the mother of sg3. It looks wrong! I dislike the cheap plastic grey look, the shape is just wrong! It has better specs but how much of a difference to the gn1 which already is pretty good. (I envy my son's gn1!)

Should I bite the bullet and buy the gn2 in October, buy the gn1 now when there are bargain deals, or wait to see if other phablets appear?
[Galaxy Note II General] vasishta.sushant:
Got my NOTE-2 and I'll be honest when I say that I am not much impressed. Somehow the screen didn't do that magic on me. Its blurry, hazy, icons look dull, text looks feeble and what not. Coming from Nexus 7 the comparison becomes even more pronounced. To me the old NOTE had a better clarity.

No doubt its fast but that's about it. Right now I so wish that the Nexus 7 had the calling capabilities. I would never have spent this much on this toy then.

The build quality as well is step below original Note. I realize now that I shouldn't have bought this thing without trying it first.
[Galaxy Note II General] robbiekhan:
Something is wrong with it if you find the screen blurry and text fuzzy. It is anything but.
[Galaxy Note II General] EmceeGeek:
Wow, thats pretty steep. Maybe something is wrong with your unit? Mine is crystal clear; the screen is beautiful. As far as the build quality, Samsung had to do what they had to do so they wouldn't be sued for patents by Apple, again. It sucks but thats just how it is.
[Galaxy Note II General] coolfire:
Having come from SGN1, I'd say SGN2 is awesome for me so far! :victory:
[Galaxy Note II General] Invalid_GR:
Hello everyone!I use a GS2 as my daily phone and wanted a tablet for browsing,book reading,gaming and media.I got a Nexus 7 16GB (my first nexus device) and was really dissapointed by it.Everything from display,speed,performance,codec support,storage and tablet app support was a let down for me so i gave it back.Could Note 2 be used as a small tablet or should i go for a 10''+ tablet?
[Galaxy Note II General] fozzir:
GNote 2 and 7 Inch Tablets

I hate to say this being such a gadget geek but I use my Nexus 7 way less now that I have my Note 2 (had it since the 29th Nov). I have a feeling that samsung might be shooting itself in the foot by having such great large phones because they also make 7" tablets. I have a 7" GTPlus and samy also has the regular galaxy tabs/tab 2s. Seriously, the Note 2 at 5.5", the Note 3 coming in at 6.3", you won't need a 7" tablet anymore. What do you'all think?:confused:
[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
cyanogen roms show the hover pointer so there is no reason why that could not be supported

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If you feel is enough interest then there's no reason not to do it. Oh and if you are at ifa it would be really nice to see a side by side of the old and new battery and the old and new stylus.
[Galaxy Note II General] inurb:
The thing I don't get is that a phone that's primarily touted for having a large hd screen would be released with a lower resolution than its original model.
[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
I think they want to get done note 2 using a standardized resolution. I think in the long run having the same resolution as the S 3 will be a good thing.
[Galaxy Note II General] PoisonWolf:
I don't personally hate it. I just think it is ridiculous that TouchWiz stutters even when given both JB and hardware boosts. Shows you how much of a resource hog it is or how inefficiently coded it is.

If they ran stock JB and just included the SPen features as apps......that would be golden.

But for potential buyers....I strongly urge you to wait until two things are determined.

1) No stupid black crush on a $600 device.

2) That they updated the eMMc firmware controller so it isn't 0x19a (brick bug).

If Sammy leaves 2) the same.........I would be lost for words.
[Galaxy Note II General] Czechnology.cz:
$700 in the US is usually about €800 to €900 in Europe :rolleyes:

Pretty much for a small plastic box, especially after what I read about the build quality compared to the Streak.
[Galaxy Note II General] DMax99:
I had a streak too before my upgrade to note 1. There were people complaining about the cheap build quality of note 1 as well....I don't think the build quality is that bad compared to the streak....and yeah....Samsung phones are not cheap. :(
[Galaxy Note II General] ashok1985:
Help On my CWM recovery.

do any one knows how to install stock recovery to samsung galaxy note N7000 . I have install the cyanogenmod 9 and the recovery with the CWM now i want to restore back to the original stock recovery.
[Galaxy Note II General] zen123:
Agree. The single biggest problem that made me part with my GNote is the black crush. Also after upgrading to ICS flash performance took a nosedive, I reverted back to GB. I bought a GS3 which still had the black crush albeit a lot lot less, returned that & now have a HOX which has a awesome screen with no such problems.

So until it is confirmed that there are no problems with the screen I wont be even considering the GN2.
[Galaxy Note II General] RRibeiro:
I'm sorry, but you are mistaken. $700 is about 600€, because the Euro is stronger then the dollar.
[Galaxy Note II General] Czechnology.cz:
RRibeiro: I'm sorry, I'm talking about the real prices of (not only) electronics, not the conversion rate of these currencies.
[Galaxy Note II General] TML1504:
right, pentile is not limited to RGBG

BUT: as the pics from verve showed it looks like we get a real RGB matrix (not the regular stripe, but still RGB)!

for us this means that the note 2 will have 50% (2x1,5=3) more subpixels (actually lesser because of the lesser resolution, see calc afterwards), and due to this fact it's almost sure that the "disadvantage" (in terms of DPI) of having a slightly bigger screen will be overcompensated by this fact!

some maths:

note 1: 1.280x800x2 = 2.048.000 subpixels

note 2: 1280x720x3= 2.764.800 subpixels

in total this is an increase of exactly 35% in terms of subpixels!

additionally the manufacturing quality of OLED screens from samsung increased during the last year, so i guess that at least the screen will be a real improvement! and i tend to say that 2gb ram will also make a feel-able difference!

don't get me wrong, i'm also a little bit disappointed about the specs,

but over all they are worth upgrading, at least from my point of view!
[Galaxy Note II General] @home:
Does anyone know what DAC they are putting in the note 2 Yamaha or Wolfson?

Main thing that put me off the Note 1 was the ****ty music play back.
[Galaxy Note II General] SealsNavie:
People have done hands-on reviews of the Note 2 but didn't compare the battery?
[Galaxy Note II General] RRibeiro:
For the people searching for a price tag:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/30/galaxy-note-ii-priced-for-vodafone/
[Galaxy Note II General] kersh:
expect a wolfson as it is a bigger S3, they are not going to change anything.
[Galaxy Note II General] biscuitlad:
So, I assume the new bluetooth s pen will pair with an old Note. Hopefully someone can write a tiny little app to give us old Note users the "your s pen has been detached" functionality of the new Note.

Anyone know if it's limited by the new Bluetooth specs? i.e. does need very low power stuff in BT 4, rather than our version? Or should it work with our older device?

Lost my s pen last year. Very annoying. Couldn't find anything that would do this simple task, good move from Sammy to add this functionality.
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
Thanks for the link. Man it's pricey.
[Galaxy Note II General] kromosto:
Thanks samsung not making a device worth for me to upgrade my note 1. Battery and ram are looking good but not worth also i dont think it is rgb. If it is rgb still not worth upgrading because of lower resolution. 16:9 is good but with this size screens while reading document, surf internet, etc. i prefer that 80 pixels over rgb.
[Galaxy Note II General] :
5megapixel camera, screen 1280x800? LOL some typos ;)
[Galaxy Note II General] DMax99:
Can't wait to get my hands on one of these.....hopefully it will be released soon!

Edit* hantec has the note 2 on their website already, but says coming soon. :)
[Galaxy Note II General] :
One month to wait :D
[Galaxy Note II General] incisivekeith:
Not sure where Samsung is doing it consumer focus groups but the design of S III and now the Note II is very cheap and impractical due to its length. It's very disappointing that they have narrowed the Note II ridiculously (as it appears from the videos) compared to the original Note - so much that it doesn't look fit to be a phablet anymore.

Why would a company screw up something that was good? Oh well, here's hoping they will revive the shape in the next version.

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[Galaxy Note II General] DMax99:
That one month is going to feel like one year. :p
[Galaxy Note II General] hagba:
Note II Benchmarked:

http://phandroid.com/2012/08/30/samsung-galaxy-note-2-benchmarked-at-ifa-2012/
[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
it's only 2.5 mm less wide.

It is, however, 4.2 mm longer, which is a little bit concerning for some of my pants.

I don't understand why some reviewers say the Note 2 is more pocketable.

More 'handholdable' - sure. But width wasn't ever an issue in terms of pocketability.

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The general reception to the Note 1 was: It's pentile, but it doesn't matter.

It's fairly safe to say, as a result: RGB is never going to happen.

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There's no way in hell the BT 4.0 is not generally backwards compatible with old BT 3.0 devices.

I assume anyone with BT 4.0 low powered dongles/headsets, they should (I think) get a nice battery life extension. Nice upgrade there.

It's safe to assume the 'detached s-pen' detection relies on a hardware switch inside the phone. So forget about that for Note 1.

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Ow. For comparison, the original Note 1's price was 550 (?) euros.

The specs are wrong on that sticker, though. So hopefully it's a fake.

The Note 1 took MAJOR flak for being extremely expensive. Raising the price seems questionable.

Although, I suppose, at the time the concept of a 'phablet' was also taking a lot of flak. But still.......
[Galaxy Note II General] elevul:
I definitely don't like the lower resolution, but I do like the bigger battery and the bigger screen.

Still not sure what to do.
[Galaxy Note II General] Gaugerer:
Could the reason for the new shape be to give it a different aspect ratio to the iPhone so that it doesn't get sued?
[Galaxy Note II General] Sahkolihaa:
I've had my Note for 2-3 months, and I really don't see this as a worthy upgrade for me. When I went from a Nexus S to a Note, then it was a big upgrade. But Note 1 to Note 2 isn't much for me.
[Galaxy Note II General] msx999:
I don't think the resolution hit will make any real world difference at all...

I for one will be getting this as soon as it's available - hopefully on orange when my upgrade is due come October.

Really hoping for LTE at launch...

Any word on the audio chip?
[Galaxy Note II General] raghavafitt:
What would be the price range......... :confused::confused:
[Galaxy Note II General] :
Whilst I can't physically get an upgrade to the Note 2 yet as I only just purchased a contract for the original Galaxy Note (which is 24 months long) around four months ago, I doubt I would even want the upgrade even if I could. Sure, the processing power is undoubtedly appealing, but an even larger display puts me off the device - big time. I mean, some of my pockets just about fit a 5.3" display and I think that any larger is going to be impossible for me to carry.

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The Note 2 is a fantastic device. I think it is a very nice device, but it'll be ages before I can get an upgrade (like a year) as I only got my contract with the Note 4 months ago. I mean, I don't even remember seeing the device released prior to around a month after Christmas, so I'm not sure as to what the UK release was.

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The resolution is the same as that of the Galaxy S3, which kind of defeats the purpose of the device in my opinion. Whilst the screen is bigger, it isn't any better looking and I think the S3 will be better value come the time of the Note's release. The S devices always get great support. Heck, I've heard talks that the S2 will get Jelly Bean even before the Note.
[Galaxy Note II General] npras42:
Having read about the Note II all over techsites etc since yesterday, I have to say overall I'm a little disappointed... I really thought they'd push the boat out and instead its got some disadvantages even compared to it predecessor.

I am most disappointed in the size. I was hoping the same size or smaller device with the same size or bigger screen. Tiny bezels and better button placement. Instead the device seems ergonomically worse than the original. Yes the bezels are smaller but not greatly so and worst of all they've made it significantly taller! I already have problems with the height meaning it sticks out of my jeans and when I sit down in my car it can slide out of my pocket and down the side.

Secondly, looking at the accessories from the Unpacked slideshow there will be no car dock as we know it with the S2 or Note. The S3 has the same problem, the only official car dock is a passive one. So if I want it connected to my car stereo and charge I have to plug in 2 cables. With the current Note car dock you just plug the charger and audio in to the dock and they stay in that position. The phone goes in the dock and voila! This is clearly a niche issue but one I cannot understand the reasoning for since they had it right before...

Thirdly (and probably least important to me), a wasteful quadcore processor and fairly old GPU that has not evolved much in nearly 18 months. Apparently, Samsung have the Exynos 5xxx with Cortex A15 based cores nearly ready for consumption. If that's the case then what are they going to use them for? The 2 flagship products they sell have now been released for 2012. This means we're not likely to see anything from Samsung with these chips in until mid-2013 (likely May/June) when the Galaxy S4 is likely to hit the ground. That's a long old wait if you ask me, especially when Samsung have gone full out nuclear war (see what I did there!) in competition with Apple over sales and they (Apple) could have something A15 based out before the end of September. I'm never going back to Apple but surely if they are trying to win over other iPhone users they need to be in the "specs war" with them. Regardless of what you say about ios (and I agree with all of you) the new iPhone is probably going to run rings around the Note 2 and Galaxy S3 in performance and battery efficiency.

The few saving graces are the super-sized battery, what looks like some exemplary software features that are well ahead of anything else out there (and go further to make iOS look like your Grandad's mobile operating system!), and special features like BT 4.0, dual-band Wi-Fi, LTE support and NFC.

As you can probably tell from the above, I think I might wait to see what is around the corner before I upgrade my phone. I really do like the look of the new TouchWiz software (even if it is bloated to hell), but I may even have to switch to HTC at some point in the future if there arent simple accessories like a convenient car dock! :(
[Galaxy Note II General] rockky:
What is 'black crush'
[Galaxy Note II General] RRibeiro:
Check out this very cool video about the new Note 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5DcgZum8M1o

It's really a super phone and the best ontill now.
[Galaxy Note II General] :
I find it hard to believe the S3 doesn't even have a proper car dock, but I'll take your word on it since I have never looked for one having not owned the device. The Note 2 does have some better improvements, so don't hate on it too much. I mean, the S Pen has had some major improvements with S Note Popup and some minor, but very, very useful, changes. The ability to access apps just by quickly writing a letter is awesome! Although, I would have prefer for Samsung to have kept the same dimensions of the current device, but simply remove the Samsung branding at the top and decrease the bezel to get slightly more screen space. I quite like on-screen buttons too, to be honest. This is really what I, and I think you too, should have expected. I mean, the original Note was a buffed S2 so it only makes sense the Note 2 is a buffed S3. The Note 3 will be based off the S4 also.

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Although, the ability to record the screen with audio from your microphone could prove really, really useful for YouTube users who make app review videos.
[Galaxy Note II General] stesteste:
this vid has sold me the phone .will some of these features be availlable to note 1 when it gets jellybean
[Galaxy Note II General] paulbadassbriant:
Well i think my mind is made up, i will be getting the Note 2. I'm coming from an iPhone 4S but recently bought a Nexus 7 tab, and i love the customisation aspect of Android, and the apps to really make your phone your own.
[Galaxy Note II General] npras42:
This is Samsung's Official Galaxy S3 Car Dock. Passive and no audio out connector.

I agree with you completely about the software features, they are pretty cool and no doubt will impress the general public. Its a really nice feature-set but the design choices are really the problem.
[Galaxy Note II General] hagba:
For me its comletely dependant on the quality of the Camera,I have couple of very good digital cameras but dont carry with me all the time so I use my phone a lot for taking pictures.
[Galaxy Note II General] Justice Strike:
black crush is one of the colors that the s3 is going to be released in:

marble white

pebble blue

garnet red

and black crush
[Galaxy Note II General] wonsanim:
I Preorder from Expansys:victory: but no price on the 16 and the 32:confused:
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
Did you get charged?
[Galaxy Note II General] :
Not PenTile

The screen in Note 2 is bit different. Verge reported it's somewhere in-between full RGB and PenTile. I found these magnified pixel arrangement from a german forum:

Few other shots here:

http://bestboyz.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/1208292154_0.jpg

http://bestboyz.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/1208292156_15.jpg

It's RGB, not PenTile. But the arrangement is different. 3 sub-pixels for every pixel, but the arrangement is strange. Anybody else further idea on this?
[Galaxy Note II General] faceless:
they wanted to get to a 16:9 ratio, that's a big marketing point now.

it's RGB *AND* Pentile. technically, Pentile arrangement doesn't specify that there can't be a Red, Blue and Green subpixel for every pixel. and it's definitely RGB, as anyone can clearly see in that image. so it's RGB Pentile instead of RGB Stripe.
[Galaxy Note II General] itsrijo:
Lol...made my day
[Galaxy Note II General] npras42:
This is a wicked-cool video btw! :good: Thanked.
[Galaxy Note II General] wonsanim:
No, I buy my S3 from them and they write me an email before collect the money from my credit card.
[Galaxy Note II General] SealsNavie:
A year from now when the Note 3 is announced, I will be so excited and extremely happy that I never wasted my money on the Note 2.
[Galaxy Note II General] DubelBoom:
and 1 year later the note 4....

you cant always wait :D

and i soooooo want the note 2. hope i would enough money by selling my stuff :)
[Galaxy Note II General] eazy103:
Are you sure? ;)

http://www.google.nl/#hl=nl&safe=of...pw.r_qf.&fp=278258e64ba7f70e&biw=1097&bih=601
[Galaxy Note II General] npras42:
I'm pretty sure that was a joke! :cyclops:
[Galaxy Note II General] Justice Strike:
Yup Definitely. Other colors that are still under consideration are:

Power Puff Pink

and Yellow Snow
[Galaxy Note II General] eazy103:
Yeah, must be. ;)

But was the question a joke also?

Think so huh?

I hope that everybody who reads it gets it then. :)

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:laugh:
[Galaxy Note II General] DubelBoom:
if were speaking about colors, the N2, black or white?
[Galaxy Note II General] eug3n91:
I'm sure there'll be a black one, just like the black S3 came out a bit after the white & blue ones.

Till then, I'd get one in the current "Titanium Silver" I think it's called, or in an S3-like blue :D

White would attract too much attention to a device this size and I'd like to keep it a little less obvious :cyclops:
[Galaxy Note II General] DubelBoom:
yes, i meant the titanium silver :)

i really don't know... both are awesome!!!!

i hope the price wont be high....
[Galaxy Note II General] DMax99:
Cool video.
[Galaxy Note II General] :
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2-vs-galaxy-note-original-110486/

Even reviewers do not see it as a worthy upgrade unless you really need more power.

Sent from my GT-N7000
[Galaxy Note II General] DubelBoom:
i agree. the note is an amazing device, can't see a good reason to upgrade.
[Galaxy Note II General] bttcp12:
I'll wait for note 5 or 6, maybe I can fly with it :D, I don't have much money and love my actual note :good:.
[Galaxy Note II General] :
You bet mate :crying:
[Galaxy Note II General] Twistedchild420:
Can't wait!

[YOUTUBE]3t5mRY2WEUA[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy Note II General] npras42:
That's a pretty rubbish comparison. Talks about the screens being the same resolution (which they're not) and then being exactly the same other than being a different size. How does that make any sense? About the only things the screens have in common are that they are both AMOLED and made by Samsung. Different size, different resolution, different dpi, different sub pixel arrangement...

Also speculates about things like battery life without any testing!

Not sure why people publish **** like that. Is there no pride in journalism?:confused:

Sent from my GT-N7000
[Galaxy Note II General] incisivekeith:
I don't believe Samsung or any other company would make that kind of a change without any lasting decisions from the court case with Apple.

The concern with the narrower Note II might be that is it not wide enough, again, from what appears in the video. I hope in real world usage, it really is a minute difference.

It would be good to have Asus and Lenovo enter this market of phablets to really compete with the Note devices, especially with regard to the pen functionality, which is subpar on the Note. I am aware of existing big phones from both those manufacturers but those are not real competitors in all aspects with the Note.

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[Galaxy Note II General] LoVeRice:
Ill buy this phone by next year when the price drops :) i dont wanna be a guinnea pig too!
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
I went to their website but the Note 2 pre-order page is nowhere to be found :confused:

Expansys usa?