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[Windows 8 General] e.mote:
>Well, it's not been confirmed whether there will be desktop development allowed on Windows RT devices...If it is not allowed(most likely) then Windows RT devices are worthless.

Metro can't replace the desktop for productivity, so unless MS wants RT to fail out of the gate, RT can't and won't be restricted to just Metro apps. RT will have an uphill battle as it is to get any traction, with no Metro apps to speak of, and having to compete against iPad and cheap Android tabs. Restricting RT to just Metro (and Office) is just plain stupid.

Second, I find it humorous that MS would be able to "restrict" desktop development, or for that matter forcing every vendor to use only the MS app store to sell their wares (and for MS to get its 30 or 20% cut). Windows is still a monopoly, and that would be the first thing vendors will scream about. That, and hobbyist devs (read: XDA types) will do whatever they want to do.

>It also means because of the common code, if the builders of apps for iphone and android want to add users they can use almost the same code.

That's the MS pitch for pushing Metro. However, for the immediate future, RT and WP8 are insignificant entities, and cross-platform isn't a pressing need. Metro's positives have to be weighed against its negatives, and the big one for now is that it can't do desktop (productivity) applications. Cross-platform doesn't matter unless that's resolved.

Windows 8 isn't a finished product, despite the RTM tag. Much will have to change. Either MS needs to do the desktop/Metro integration much better, or Metro will have to grow up. As it stands, I don't see anything as being cast in stone, MS' decrees notwithstanding.
[Windows 8 General] phailyoor:
I totally agree with you, but considering all of the bull MS reps have been spewing, anything can happen, including locking down the desktop on RT. Also, windows RT isn't windows anymore(according to MS), so there's no worries about a monopoly.

Still, I'm hoping for an open desktop on RT that will quickly fill up with powerful desktop apps.
[Windows 8 General] e.mote:
>I totally agree with you, but considering all of the bull MS reps have been spewing, anything can happen, including locking down the desktop on RT.

If MS really wanted to lock down the desktop on RT, it wouldn't have allowed a "desktop" tile on RT, let alone leaving most of the desktop functionality intact.

MS can be dense, but it's pretty bright-eyed when it comes to its own survival, and that's what we're talking about here if RT fails. If RT fails, it means Metro will fail (since x86 can't go down in price enough to compete with iPad/Android), and the whole MS mobile effort will fail. If that fails, then MS itself will gradually fail, once its Windows cash cow runs dry. So, RT's survival is a big deal, bigger than trying to enforce some restriction to limit its functionality.

>Still, I'm hoping for an open desktop on RT that will quickly fill up with powerful desktop apps.

RT is still too raw as it is. Big commercial apps aren't likely to show up until at least the next iteration. But assuming cheap RT toys, we as techies can play and familiarize with it until then. For Joe Blow consumer, I wouldn't recommend a RT tablet this season.
[Windows 8 General] phailyoor:
Considering the stuff that intel is cooking up, x86 has a chance. As I said, it would be pretty stupid for MS to lock out the desktop, but it could happen. MS is putting a tablet OS on desktop(included on the side with a the functional desktop mode), and that's pretty silly.

Who knows. If enough of Windows is intact in RT, desktop apps may just be a recompile away. Open VS, change target to ARM, compile. Then my faith in humanity would be restored.
[Windows 8 General] Greywolf_Ghost:
Have any of you watched and listened to the launch events???

It would do you a world of good to have a watch!!!!

The software developers are in the driver seat.

Thanks to the new developer tools they can set the terms of use for the software.

For example with the next version Adobe Photoshop Cs ? ( forget what version they are on).

They build and compile on their PC, or build and upload to Microsoft and it compiles in the cloud. With Adobe picking Win8/Win RT/ Win Phone 8 as target.

or

Just Win8/Win RT as target.....as I can't see myself using Photoshop on my phone.

So there will be desktop development, but the question is will the RT have the horse power to handle the app, or available ram.

Like most Video Editing for HD will still need a good x86 PC with a nice 6 Gig ram to render quickly enough.

The only restriction on desktop is can the unit handle it.

Add the addition of NFC to Win8 Win RT and Win Phone 8, now you can kick off games between any combo of tablets and phones. No matter if they are Pro x86, Arm RT and Phone. If the game is added to the app store for all 3 platforms, again the option of the designer.
[Windows 8 General] phailyoor:
Um, there's no desktop on WP8. I am referring to desktop apps on RT, which have not been confirmed or discussed by MS in any significant capacity.
[Windows 8 General] Greywolf_Ghost:
Yes most are aware there is no desktop in WP8.......

However that was added in because going forward if you develop an app or game it can compile for all 3 platforms at the same time.

Now as to development, Microsoft said there will be cross platform development.

However they are the only ones who have developed for all 3 right now as the public does not have the hardware in hand.

Example:

Slacker Radio app is available for WP 7.5 and Windows 8 (x86) right now.

On or around Sept. 28th the app will auto compile in the cloud for RT and Windows Phone 8 ( once Microsoft starts selling ).

Cross platform development was stated clearly by Joe Belfiore (Head of Windows Phone Program) and the Gentleman who hosted the Windows 8 launch.

A simple watch of the videos would save you a heap of typing and fuss over nothing.
[Windows 8 General] phailyoor:
Well, my post that you responded to was referring to the desktop only. Don't be quotin' my posts if your response is not at all related:p:eek::rolleyes:

I do get the stuff about Metro that you're referring to though.
[Windows 8 General] Greywolf_Ghost:
Beg pardon but, I did quote you and it delt with your statement of the windows phone and desktop.

Now where in all this did I say this was Metro only??????

I don't see Photoshop being a Metro app.

Metro apps are lighter versions, fast pace information, games and quick tasks.

By the way if you look at any of the videos out there now on youtube......Office 2013 in RT was started up from the task bar on the "desktop". All apps I watched open no longer say Preview App only...

If you look up IFA 2012

So the fact still stays....there will be cross platform "desktop development"...however it will still be up to the designers to say we want our app on only 1, 2 or all 3 platforms:p
[Windows 8 General] e.mote:
>So the fact still stays....there will be cross platform "desktop development"...

I think any optimism should be tempered. RT will only have a limited launch this Oct (only 4 announced models thus far, and none of those are sure to launch). From all indications, RT is still not a finished product.

Vendors will only sell products when there's a market. For this and most of next year, there won't be a market for RT wares. When it does happen, Metro will be the emphasized UI, and desktop will take a backseat. Desktop apps will be limited to x86, and desktop on RT will be the province of hobbyists only, at least until the next Win version (or service pack)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devindudeman:
So I've been fooling around with JellyBean on my Nexus S 4g and am intrigued by the addition of multiple user accounts. I was curious if anyone thinks there could be some benefit to

battery life

if I were to switch into a user account specifically created to have little clutter? As in...

If I'm out hiking, and recognize that I don't need all these widgets/email notifications/twitter, could I switch into a "Streamlined" user account and extend my battery life?

Or, by switching users, am I simply doubling the processes which my phone has to handle?

I guess my question is simply this: when I switch users in JellyBean, does the primary user's applications still run in the background in addition to the guest? I hope I'm making sense! I frequently go to music festivals, and it would be awesome if I could use multiple user accounts to customize what I want my phone to be doing (to a greater extent than profiles allow).
[Xperia Arc General] Mahesh89:
What do u guys think abt the new Arc series the Xperia T & Xperia V

:highfive:

both the Xperia T & the V already beats the Galaxy S III & the oneX in the Benchmark tests
[Xperia Arc General] H20fluid:
New arc series!!if they are anything like the original arc/s they'll be excellent,competition should be worried!!!

Sent from my LT18i
[Xperia Arc General] mr_torture:
I just read that article on GSMArena, and my hart was... like house! :cool:

New Arcy Xperias with krait dual-cores are beating other flagships so badly that I just can't believe... I can only say, WOW.

Haha, watch your asses, SONY beasts are coming!

PS: You should rename topic into "There's a storm coming, Mr. Samsung", like one user commented on GSMArena. :D
[Xperia Arc General] XTCrefugee:
The Xperia V looks promising, and it's very good to see Sony returning to replaceable batteries and microSD slots after abandoning those in the NXT line. I would personally have liked to see real, hardware buttons for home/back/menu but I guess all the manufacturers have dropped those now.
[Xperia Arc General] arpith.fbi:
yup..both look kool...they will be launched in october 1st week atleast in India :)
[Xperia Arc General] lukesjeans:
im slightly dissapointed.......that i bought the gs3!!!! Man I loved my arc but i just had to move on....one month too soon. the new series are great though, cant wait to try them!
[Xperia Arc General] jader13254:
super awesome. i will buy xperia v, even if i'm child an can't pay money for LTE (80€/month) xD

But its water resistant and is the fastest device avaible, with dual-core, which is way better than Galaxy S3.... Because Power of Dual-Core..and saving power and heat.. awesome, but LTE i can't pay i dont have enough money :(
[Xperia Arc General] grgsujan:
I wanted to upgrade to s3. but the new sony xperia T keeps the arc design. along with the beast dual core krait processor!!! Can't wait for the upgrade.
[Xperia Arc General] frothe3:
I'm waiting to see how much they will retail this mobile here in the US. It just might be my next mobile, the T-TX.
[Xperia Arc General] owen17:
Xperia V looks promising...

I just hope the price would range as a mid-level phone :D
[Xperia Arc General] frothe3:
I like the V also. I downloaded the user guide for the SL, which DOES have a removable battery cover. But the software for the V has me waiting for its release.
[Xperia Arc General] errIO:
Do you like jokes ? : Adreno 200

You want a joke ? 512 Ram + 1ghz single core
[Xperia Arc General] morten82:
Looks gooood:laugh:
[Xperia Arc General] DdcCabuslay:
I wonder why the TX was revealed quietly at IFA. Maybe because it has similar specs to the T but the TX is my personal favourite. The GX/TX design is better than the T design imo.

Only if the T and TX had LTE. Flagship phones without the fastest data speed mediums available is a minus.
[Xperia Arc General] AwesomeAHlee:
will i bea able to use 4g on AT&T with the xperia V?
[Xperia Arc General] aniket.sananse:
don't u guys think that xperia SL is the awesomest...

I mean its the only phone with 1.7 ghz processor...?

I saw one of us talking about the much awaited software from xperia V.... what's so special?

i liked the xperia SL better ?

Aniket from XDA Premium app.

hit thanks if i've helped u. :)
[Xperia Arc General] frothe3:
It might, just have to look at the specs.
[Xperia Arc General] Gnavarroc:
xperia v looks just great :)
[Xperia Arc General] SuperMari064:
I'm interested in the 13mp camera that the Tx has, I wonder if its better (if any) than the S
[Xperia Arc General] mavilion:
nice

well Samsung, I think I'll stick with Sony for a while. They're just too good to miss.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] apklike18:
Can project butter work for mini ?

im not here to help im here to get help
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] coolsandie:
Its already working in the CM10.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] apklike18:
Hmm i didnt know that tnx

im not here to help im here to get help
[Droid 2 Global General] drrays:
Well, I just spent 6 hours trying to root my .629 droid global 2, I did it. I was wondering where can I get a list of kernels I can use with stock 2.3.4? OR can I even do this? Sorry I spent hours looking online for kernels and I couldn't find anything. I did own a optimus 1 and have some experience with this stuff but is it much different than going into recovery and flashing the kernel?

In fact if someone would be nice enough to convince me to get a rom, this would be much easier. but after looking into it, it seems ridiculously hard to put a rom on these things unless someone can tell me different? I'm looking for something like CM 7 because that was what I was used to on my LG O1. Unless the stock rom on this right now would get me better battery than the CM 7? Thank you in advance.
[Droid 2 Global General] Gasai Yuno:
Nowhere.

There are no custom kernels.

The bootloader is locked and encrypted.

You cannot install a custom kernel.

There are custom ROMs though and they don't really need a lot of work to install.
[Droid 2 Global General] drrays:
isnt the bootloader bypassed by boostrapper/rom manager?

I was just about to install CM7 after reading your post and another member was saying it won't work because I'm on GSM and I need to flash to froyo and then to cm7?
[Droid 2 Global General] sd_shadow:
if you need to band unlock http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php...d and Band unlock Droid 2 Global with 629 ROM

if you just need a rom that works well, with gsm

I'll add link http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8951-gsm-data-status-for-various-roms/

also read http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-global/118785-proper-use-droid-2-x-bootstrapper.html
[General Questions and Answers] anth787:
I've tried scanning through forums and tried browsing the web for answers, but I'm still having trouble. I own a Samsung Galaxy S2 HD LTE, and I've recently updated to Ice Cream Sandwich OTA. However, I've been trying to root and flash clockworkmod recovery on the phone, following the instructions carefully. I've hooked up my phone and used Odin to flash the .tar file to my phone. (USB debugging on) Everything seemed to have passed and downloaded just fine. However, when booting up into recovery, clockworkmod recovery doesn't seem to load, only the normal, android recovery mode boots. If anyone can guide me and help me out with this I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mucus_android:
What Is It?

An awesome pack of dark/inverted/transparent apps!

Who Made It?

fritzhy - Inverted Dropbox

MrDSL - Transparent MMS

XlAfbk - Black Pocket(Read It Later)

decalex - Inverted Google Voice

flappjaxxx - Black Netflix

MobileAllStar - Inverted GApps

Justinbean - Inverted GApps

BAKED - Inverted GApps

How to install?

Flash from your favorite recovery.

Notes

Please thank the original authors of these packs - they did a lot of hard work!

If installing on a device OTHER THAN THE I717 Galaxy Note - remove mms.apk before flashing.

Update

09/08/12

-Moved (certain) apps to data, now you can uninstall all the apps you don't use.

Still looking for more stuff that can be included.

Download

09/08/12 http://d-h.st/TyZ

09/04/12 outdated http://d-h.st/2W7
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Vicious Von:
Pardon my sarcastic yet light hearted remark in the other thread. This is a good look

Sent from the Great White Note
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sweetboy02125:
What Rom should be flashed? CM9. CM10. STOCK ICS. AOPK.......?

♥★♥ My phablet Galaxy Note ♥★♥
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Truebl00d:
Huh?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] juwttt:
Any JB AOKP OR CM10
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] erick161:
...tried three browsers, can't download it?!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Kflan22:
Same no download just links me other places
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Pupalei:
Yeah it wants me to install iLivid to download. No thanks. I'd really like the inverted GAPPS, but only from a trusted download site.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Taz420nj:
I didn't have to download anything, it's just one of those chains of monetized redirects to download 'bays' that makes you pay if you want it faster than 14kbps or if you want to download more than one file every day and a half. Personally I think people should be kicked in private areas for uploading anything to those, given the number of non-throttled free options, but whatever. Just click one of the Download links at the bottom. The downloads work (on Firefox anyway) and there are no strings aside from it being slow as balls.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] erick161:
I just got them from JustinBean and manually pushed them and fixed permissions. Works like a charm.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 9wire:
That's freaking ridiculous. I give up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mucus_android:
Major changes

-OP Updated

-Apps Updated

-Script Updated

-Proper Credits and Citations

-More Awesome!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mucus_android:
would folks be interested in a new bootanimation?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dafoxs:
This zip contains the phonesky.apk

I would remove that. That's going to open a can of worms for some people.

---------- Post added at 10:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:24 AM ----------

And google now fc.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mucus_android:
you get fc on google now?

it works fine for me . . .
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mucus_android:
Update

09/08/12

-Moved (certain) apps to data, now you can uninstall all the apps you don't use.

Still looking for more stuff that can be included.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mucus_android:
update coming tomorrow

-removal of blacked netflix

-other stuff
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
I pre ordered An International 32GB Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE QUAD CORE 1.4Ghz + 2GB ram I will have it by the end of september-mid Oct

my mate lives and breaths phones ill sell mine so I will probably be out of pocket abit, no more worry about ram problems WOOO HOOOO but still F U samsung for making me do this LOL I just have to have it
[Galaxy S III General] nobnut:
You could do that...

Or you could have been sensible and bought a Note II just a couple of weeks later.. More processor, much more battery, much much better phone.

You did it your way, I'll do it mine :) Mine is better

You'd better just suck up those $200 (by the way, your mate/guru/wizard/Harry Potter/whatever is taking the piss and ripping you off)

#justsayin'
[Galaxy S III General] EdgaBimbam:
Too much weed for today? O.o
[Galaxy S III General] the2rrell:
^^^^^^ +1 we call that winning where im from...lol
[Galaxy S III General] nobnut:
Cheers Edga! I knew it was something, but couldn't put my finger on it.

Weed... the non-thinking man's pastime.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
That speed was popular in 80's processors. :p
[Galaxy S III General] nobnut:
LOL... just when I thought this was out of my head.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Im guessing it would be $200 and thats if I sell my phone CHEAP and ummm Better processor? bahahah if you cal 1.5 much better then 1.4 Plus Note Is too big for a phone 4.8 is perfect for a phone. And how the F would you know he is ripping me off i will be getting an invoice I have known him for years loool ur a funny one... :good: U dumbasses
[Galaxy S III General] nobnut:
I rest my case.

#winning!

You edited your posts

#weak
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
LOOOL ^ N V :P toodles :laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] LiquidNarwhal:
I wish I could express how sad this thread makes me, if I remember this is supposed to be a site for development. If there's anything to discuss here it's that you might see 300-400 megs of RAM more than your current and LTE will chew through that measly battery. If you always pre-order the latest greatest you'll be a man with very little money and not much to show for it. 200 dollars for an LTE radio which will destroy battery life and a few hundred megs of RAM. As one guy said the Note would at least be a different phone and probably a better investment, either that or keep your current GS3 and get an LTE capable tab. Every single experience I've had with LTE on my phone leads to general dissatisfaction due to it dying half way through the day. Anyway pointless thread, stop blowing money on pointless stuff enjoy what you have.

*steps off soapbox*

Best wishes
[Galaxy S III General] CuBz90:
That's BS

Why would he want to choose the Note 2? If I could choose again I would stick with the S3. Your preference is not everyone else's.
[Galaxy S III General] baileyjr:
I've a year or so left on my contract anyway and my current provider "3" doesn't offer an LTE service at the moment anyway, so I'll just wait and see how the LTE market matures here in the UK.

At the moment I have unlimited data including tethering and that suits me just fine.. "3" are just rolling out the latest version of HSPA+ with support for theoretical speeds of 42Mbps so Im hoping that will give me most of a good balance of speed and battery life.
[Galaxy S III General] usb2007:
ROFLMAO@Harry Potter
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Please, step down from that high horse of yours. The general section is for stuff that isn't really development related, and if this discussion cannot be held here, it would have been locked by now. You want development related activities, relocate yourself to the development forums on this very site.

Just because you have had a bad experience with LTE devices, doesn't mean OP will. Yes, it consumes more battery and RAM than a non-LTE capable phone, but there are people who don't mind. Personally, I won't buy an LTE phone, because 3G suits me more than enough, but that's me.

If this thread makes you sad, why did you feel the need to drop a useless comment showing it? You would have saved approximately 10-20 seconds (give or take) by not posting that comment.
[Galaxy S III General] LiquidNarwhal:
not really useless considering the fact, despite I don't really like the idea of this thread I still answered OPs question. Xda-Developers isn't about developing anymore?(I need to section myself off to a specific "development thread" instead of discussing general things about the phone) there will always be something better than what you have making a thread to point out you're not satisfied is fairly pointless. Arguing with someone who tells me to get off my high horse is another. General forum is general discussion about the gt-i9300 Samsung Galaxy S III not about what you're going to buy next week or what else is better. enjoy your damn device.

P.S. If you want to have a circle jerk about new devices and pushing people off their "high horses" reddit is always an option. :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
You didn't have to reply at all.

Really, now? Then why do we have development sections?

If you ask me, the OP didn't seem unsatisfied.

You had it coming. You act like what you say was important, when it was unnecessary.

Well, he did talk about the S3, just not the specific "i9300". No forums exist yet for the i9305 LTE-specific version, so this'll have to do until such forum exists.

I enjoy my device. There's nothing damned about it.

I never did like Reddit to begin with.
[Galaxy S III General] LiquidNarwhal:
I don't mean to seem like the bad guy here, but the constant flood of threads about "I don't have enough RAM, I exchanged my phone for X device, the camera sucks" just gets old. If you wish to continue this I'm more than happy to in PM.