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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] apetricc:
I tried iPad w/ bluetooth stylus, switched to G Note!

This is a great thread. I had dreamed of going 'paperless' and got an iPad to take notes on with a bamboo bluetooth stylus. It didn't work out b/c the writing was inconsistent. If it was just bad, maybe I could've gotten used to it, but inconsistent was a deal breaker. I got a Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Ed. for the great 'Spen'. S-note is kinda clunky though. Eventually I found Papyrus, and that works pretty good, but Lecture Notes is WAY better. They seem to have made S-note with marketing in mind, not actual users, where Lecture note seems to have users in mind more than marketing. Lecture Notes has a steep learning curve, but it's worth it. The only complaint I have is that my notes are getting kinda big, and exporting to Evernote takes several seconds, but exporting to PDF seems a bit faster though (probably twice as fast--a non-trivial difference). It would be nice if I could have it do the exports in the background so I could lock the screen and it would still get it done (as it is I have to keep the screen on while it finishes its work). I too have set it up so I export to a specific folder, and then that folder gets automatically uploaded to DropBox via DropSync. Overall, I'm happy with Lecture Notes, and I like the way you can record audio as well with Lecture Recordings installed. I like the functionality of Evernote over just exporting PDFs, but it's really just as a backup, so I shouldn't need to use either anyway. I guess I'll just export to PDF for speed. I can always just export one page at a time and then merge the appropriate notes on Evernote web, but that doesn't seem like the most elegant solution. Anyway, just wanted to share that I think you'll be sorely disappointed if you tried to switch to an iPad with a bluetooth stylus after using Lecture Notes with a G-Note. Some people seem to like One Note, but it doesn't seem to have the same customization that I like now, mostly when it comes to the pens and printing notes etc. Maybe I can still learn One Note, but part of its usefulness is lost not using on a Surface (the MS digitizer pen lets you open the radial pen menu very easily which I can't seem to find in the Android version). Anyway, just my two cents. :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] acadoid:
[MENTION=6474953]apetricc[/MENTION]: Many thanks for your kind comments.

There is no fully automatic export to PDF, but I have that on my to-do-list.

What you can do is to select `Export notebooks board to PDF´ and choose `modified notebooks only´ in the upcoming dialog, then LectureNotes will export all notebooks to PDF that have been touched since their last export to PDF. Note that this functionality also exists for folders (meaning that only notebooks within a folder are considered).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] apetricc:
Yeah that works

I do appreciate the ability to export only modified files/folders, I just have been using the Evernote export mostly to get the most out my notes, and it's a little annoying that notes aren't updated automatically in Evernote, but I understand that Evernote would need to do something to allow for that. I guess I'll have to use 'export to Evernote' less, & use the PDF export more. (Since it's really just for redundancy). Is there no 'workaround' to deal with Evernote's limitation? Or would the Evernote team need to explicitly allow Lecture Notes to merge notes? Like I said, it's getting to where it's taking some time to export to Evernote, and I know I can merge notes in Evernote web after the fact, but a lot of people like Evernote and it could go a long way towards making people accept Lecture Notes as the best note taking app for android! :laugh:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] acadoid:
[MENTION=6474953]apetricc[/MENTION]: At the moment, LectureNotes uses the `CREATE_NEW_NOTE´ intent to upload a notebook, either with new or with persistent UUID. Evernote announced some time ago to add an `EDIT_NOTE´ intent to their app (http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/29122-intent-to-append-to-or-edit-a-specific-note/), but the API has not been updated yet (http://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/android_intents.php). As soon as the intent has been added, I will add it to LectureNotes.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] apetricc:
Would contacting the Evernote team be helpful?

I will try and contact the Evernote team to urge them to consider Lecture Note users. :)

In the meantime, updating Evernote notes and exporting PDFs would not be such a concern if it were possible to export in the background/while the screen is locked. As it stands now, if I try to export a PDF or export to Evernote and lock the screen, the process is interrupted and just starts over from the beginning the next time the screen is opened or when the Lecture Notes is the open app. Being able to do the export in the background would be a nice compromise. Not sure if that's possible, but it would be nice, and I'm only sharing this opinion b/c I love the app, and I'd like to see it be the best it can be! :fingers-crossed:

In the meantime, like I said, I love the app--keep up the good work!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] acadoid:
[MENTION=6474953]apetricc[/MENTION]: As you can see from the date stamps in the discussion, the announcement was made around 30 months ago, so I am not too optimistic that the Evernote Android API will be extended anytime soon.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
You can sync any folder with Dropbox using Dropsync if you have the Pro version. With the free version you can only sync one folder.

Just open Dropsync, click the 3 vertical dots at the top right and choose settings. Then select the folders you wish to sync. Pretty straighforward.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] arjag:
The first thing that I did was change settings in LN;

Settings > Storage > App directory setup

to

/mnt/extSdCard/LectureNotes

I left pdf and zips as default.

In DropSync

Settings

> Synced Folders

Local: /mnht/extSdCard/LectureNotes

Dropbox: /lecturenotes

Method: Upload only (i think this is a poor choice and I will prob change to Two Way)

> Enable Autosync checked

>Instant Upload checked (i actually have this unchecked, up to you, I dont need sync that fast)

I think all other settings are to your taste, and most importantly data plan, I have only 1GB with min session of 1MB on my GNote10

Umm, I don't think that LN is technically annotating the pdf file, it is importing it as a part of it's layered png structure, therefore after import it is a part of the specific notebook and does not change the original PDF

If you choose Export to PDF from inside the notebook, it puts a pdf of the current notebook into the current notebooks directory.

So in the directory structure I have

> folder > example > example.pdf

pdf file for each pages layer and some uuid.txt files that are probaby best to leave alone.

On my desktop computer I have full dropbox and can just open/copy/whatever the pdf file.

I have not attemted to edit the png files to see what happens.

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I didnt think about this, I looked at Dropsync and thought it was cool and bought it without a second thought. LN is not the only thing that I sync.

EDIT: clearly mitchellvii and my posts overlapped somewhat :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Thanks, again. I regularly post on the LN thread on the ThinkPad Tablet forum here on xda, and you're right, he is very helpful. I only use about a 10th of LN's capabilities, but even so, it's still an amazing app. You've opened my mind to even more things. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ratindahat:
does anyone get random squiggles connected to you letters? i'll post a picture. all of the red circles are circling squiggles. I know there are more on the page, but it should give an example of what i am talking about. happens with and without a screen protector.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
I've never experienced that or seen anyone who has. Odd. Stylus issue perhaps. Have you tried a restart?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
I think you're touching the button on the stylus while you ink. I just saw a squiggle with LN and noticed I was touching the button at the time. For me, no button = no squiggle. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ratindahat:
for me, if i touch the button it stops writing completely. And this happens with both the s-pen and an acer stylus from one of my old tablet pc's.

Not sure if anyone has the button working properly in lecture note, but for me the button does nothing good.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
If I fully touch the button I get that. If t touch it lightly I get the squiggles.

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Button fully pressed is an eraser, I think.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ratindahat:
I'll try to see if that is the issue.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Charbucks:
Yup, this happens to a few of us. Rather, I suspect it happens to all of us, but some are more anal than others.

There's a thread about jagged writing. I think it has to do with the precision of the digitizer - it seems as though it's *too* precise. When I move the pen fairly quickly in long strokes, there's no squiggles, but at the end of the stroke when you slow down, I think the digitizer is picking up on natural hand shake.

The stylus button theory is an interesting one, but for me it doesn't seem to affect anything. I'm not sure why it would, either...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
It's just what I've noticed. Saw this lst time last night. Not jagged, just a squiggle at the end of a letter.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] -viperboy-:
I love LectureNotes. That's the only thing I use to take my notes in class. Been emailing the developer and helping him get s-pen button support worked into the app, great guy. Samsung doesn't use the real Android way of using the button. But it does fully work on CM10.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] AndroidAble:
Since you are working on the pen button with the developer, having the option to use it as a lasso and selecting move/delete would be great. That would be an optional setting to having it function as an eraser of course.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] 404Science:
That's already built in. The developer is great!

Also, 100% button exists, enable the zoom button, then set your fixed levels (you have 6 of them). You can also set up a double-finger double tap to zoom to 100%.

Or... you can set the max zoom level to 100% then use two finger pinch to quickly go to 100%. The developer thought of everything, and I helped :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] splotz:
Afaik you can choose this option already in settings.

(Button settings afair).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] tommyschw:
Speaking of the Button

If you enable both the "Display Hover" and "Allow hover scrolling", it will let you scroll the page while holding the button and hovering. Nice feature. I wish you could just enable the "Allow hover scrolling" w/o the "Display Hover", as I find the circle a tad annoying (and jittery).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] splotz:
I started in the "Apps" section of the Gnote10.1 a thread about the LectureNote App :)

Maybe we can collect here the Ideas for Improvements:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1870639
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
We needed our own LN thread. Thanks, splotz. We have a lot of the TPT gang here now.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] AndroidAble:
Are you saying that on the Galaxy Note 10.1 it is possible to push the button and have it engage the lasso tool? I am not able to make the button do that.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Press the cut button, then you have a choice. Rectangle is the default, I believe. Drag to select.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] stellaignis:
S-note has Formula recognition.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Nice! Didn't know that even though I use it. Need to keep up with the development better.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Nefariouss:
Think he means the stylus button

However I can't even get the stylus button to engage the eraser even with what I assume are the correct settings.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] 404Science:
The stylus button isn't recognised at the moment. The developer is working on a fix. Apparently Samsung did their own thing and didn't use the stock Android API for the stylus button.

It works on CM10 if you wanna root your tablet.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] -viperboy-:
Exactly. That's what I was emailing him about over the past few days. He is looking into it because it is a major pain in the ass to implement in his current app. He could always have a secondary app that worked only on Samsung but that means he would have to maintain 4 apps (free, paid, Samsung free, Samsung paid) and he doesnt want to have people downloading the wrong one. Give the guy some time, I'm sure he will get it figured out.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Not the stylus button. On the toolbar at the top. There is an icon/button that represents cutting. If you can do it from the button, even better, but it must be set in the settings dialog. When you long press the cutter you get options.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] MNDaveC:
Evernote bought out Penultimate.... can't wait for Evernote to get hand writing for Android
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] grimloktt:
Here are my thoughts.

Snote:

_Why can't I make the template size 8.5 x II for printing?

_ I'm sure there's a way but can't figure out how to set default typing size, font & color for all new notebooks?

Lecture Notes

_It drives me nuts that I have to "drilldown"to got subfolders & notebooks._

_ It would be cool if he could integrate the"smart shape"from Snote.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
You can directly access any notebook via a shortcut on your home screen. I like the folder feature. If you don't like it, don't use it. You don't have to have folders.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] grimloktt:
Thnx for the tip. I, too, like folders. Just wished there was a one click option when looking @ consolidated view of all foldout notebooks.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Post or email a feature request. The dev is very responsive. Here is a link to the ThinkPad forum thread. He answers posts and requests there regularly.

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1436
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] acadoid:
@grimloktt: What are `smart shapes´?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] grimloktt:
On s note, there's a shape toolbar and when selected anything you draw on screen gets cleaned up with straight lines when you're done, I.e. triangle, square, etc.

That's what I'm calling smart shapes...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] -viperboy-:
Has anyone tried Quill on stock ROM? Curious if it works, but it should. Can be downloaded from here for free, as it is open source and the developers Google code page...

http://code.google.com/p/android-quill/

Any thoughts vs LectureNotes?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] AndroidAble:
The organization qualities are not there for me. I do not believe you can create notebooks within notebooks. Beside that, it is a pretty good app. I just started playing with MobileNoter SE HD. The first time I tries it the handwriting was awful. I am thinking something must have been wrong, or the 4.2 update really just improved it greatly. Last time it was horribly slow and pretty useless. Now it is much smoother. I need to figure out how to sync it faster and I might be able to work with this.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ratindahat:
You can place notebooks inside of folders, and folders inside of folders.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jaydubbbbs:
Just downloaded it to see if it works, i am completely stock and i got the update to UEALH2 and it seems to work fine. I didn't try to do too much but it was very responsive and i felt handled the pressure sensitivity very well. It's similar to the papyrus beta i use. Both seem better than snotes in regard to thick lines tapering into thin ones as opposed to ending all rounded. I haven't used lecture notes maybe I'll give that a spin. I just hope that JB allows more side by side. With snotes i can have a subject picture open while drawing it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] -viperboy-:
The button didn't work for you, did it?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jaydubbbbs:
On the s pen? It was weird i must have been doing something wrong. Using the pen button i was able to create a green box, i then tried to put a photo in the selected area. The first few times it didn't work. I just tried again and the picture came in fine. Are there more functions the button can do? Sorry to be a bit clueless just figuring stuff out

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I take it back after some more playing seems to have a mind of its own.i was just trying to erase some lines and it would erase some, then will go back to pen on its own. I'll experiment more with it. Button didn't work this time

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The pen switching is obviously by design i was picking it up of the screen so that works. And yes the button does nothing except cancel out the line you are drawing if you hit it as you are drawing. Doesn't do anything else i can tell. First time using quill tho
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mrgerlo:
Actually you can, just set the books to black background when creating them and in the settings there is an option that Refers to Blackboard Writing, switching black strokes to white. Thats the way I've been using it now.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] AndroidAble:
Just wanted to share this in case it helps others. I just posted a reply in the q&a about how easy you can snip something into LectureNotes. While doing that, I discovered something cool. When ever I needed to erase a word i would select the cutter tool, lasso around the word, hit the bottom right corner button (cut, I think), and then the "X". Not great, but better than selecting eraser and trying to scribble it over all my text. What I learned by luck is that if you select eraser and circle it around a word, it erases eveything in the circle you created will get erased. Maybe that is common knowledge, but it was new for me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Wow! Thank You! You should get an award for this one.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] oshea85:
I'm using LN on the current cm10 build, and you can also just hold the button on the pen down and it will lasso erase instead of scribble-erase
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ratindahat:
this is probably only true if you are using cm10 or another build that does not have touch wiz
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
I'm not rooted, and if I press the button it will sometimes erase.

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Just tried this and it does not work for me. :(
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ratindahat:
you have to make sure to connect the beginning and end of the circle
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Does it work without root?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ratindahat:
if you are talking about the circle to erase things, yes. you have to select the eraser icon, then draw a circle around the stuff you want erase
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Got it! Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ratindahat:
no problem.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Sounds dumb to be so jazzed, but I hated doing it the other way.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] AndroidAble:
I must be crazy...

OK. After making what I thought was a really cool discovery yesterday, now I cannot get LectureNotes to repeat what I was able to do while using it yesterday. Now when I circle a word with the eraser, nothing happens. Was anyone else using a stock device able to do this? Was my tablet bugging out with a really cool feature. I emailed the dev and asked him what was up and asked him to make this a feature if not already. How was I able to do this yesterday and not today?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Yes. I got it to work early this morning. Just checked and can still do it. Did you try cache clearing, and/or a restart?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] AndroidAble:
I did a restart. The only thing I changed on my system was the normal update of a few apps from Play and I installed SkyDrive. How do you clear the cache. I want that feature back.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
App Cache Cleaner in the Market.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] AndroidAble:
OK. I figured it out. I was getting a little sloppy with the execution. I thought as long as the loop was closed it would erase everythihng in the middle. My earaser line was overlapping. You have to be somewhat careful in making sure you close the loop at approximately the same starting point. Whew!!!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Good news. I am loving the tip. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
You know, I really want to like Lecture Notes. I just don't like how the pen writes. I am no handwriting expert in the first place but for some reason when I write in LN my handwriting is even worse than usual. I think maybe it is because for me, there is a slight lag in the writing. I am able to write so smoothly in S-Notes. I actually write there with the first paintbrush instead of the pen because I like the smoothness. Maybe that's the difference.

Who knows why this is. It's weird.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] acadoid:
@mitchellvii: I am sorry to hear about the problem. There seems to be a strange issue which occurs only on Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 devices but not on any other, strokes get somewhat wiggled. Unfortunately, I did not yet have access to such device, and it is presently not clear what is causing this problem, but in the latest version 1.16.8, LectureNotes has two input filter that seem to help according to users' reports, in particular enabling the first. You might wish to try them.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Hmmm, ok. How does one access the input filters? Is that on the free version or paid?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] splotz:
Should be in both as afaik the only diff. is the no. of books.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Found it i still prefer s notes. Thats just me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] acadoid:
@mitchellvii: The filters are present in both trial and full version. It can be set in the app's input settings, the entry is close to the bottom.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] splotz:
If you need more options, then LN is the one which gives them to you.

If you dont need it to be very flexible and configurable, of course its easier and better to stay with the one you know already.