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[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
The Note 1 never had the same aspect ratio as the iphone, so that doesn't make any sense.

The ironic part of your suggestion is that it looks likely that they now will both end up changing to the same aspect ratio: 16:9.

- Frank

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http://www.expansys.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2-16gb-titanium-gray-235976/

Don't see a link for white though.
[Galaxy Note II General] hung2900:
Sure the screen on Note 2 uses RGB matrix, but in a strange way.

Here is traditional Pentile RGBG matrix on orginal Note

Here is on Note 2

It's clear that each pixel is the combination of three sub-pixels, which remains the same number of sub-pixels compared to the traditional RGB stripe matrix.

I don't know why SS keep the name Super Amoled of the new technology. Except the way of pixel arrangement, i found no relation to the original Super Amoled with Pentile matrix (in fact far mor superior). Samsung is famous in naming a slightly new technology with a ridiculous name, so that another thing that makes me surprise.

One more thing i doubt is the number of sub-pixels on 720p Note2 screen is exactly equal to a 1080 pentile matrix screen's. Why didn't Samsung make it 1080p for leaving Apple's "Retina" display in the dust? Due to battery life, cost of production, app compatible or just avoiding making Galaxy S3 shame? I think the latter is more reasonable.
[Galaxy Note II General] katamari201:
Good thing I bought the Gnote a month ago instead of waiting for this thing and being disappointed. My next phone will probably be the teased Nokia cameraphone, if nothing better comes along, and IFA sure hasn't shown me anything special. The Gnote II is basically a Gnote wrapped in GSIII body, which I don't like, and with a quad-core, which frankly I don't see the point in upgrading for since I owned a quad-core phone before and was not impressed by the performance difference. Maybe in a couple of years. More RAM is nice but the impact is minor to non-existent for my uses. Like many bloggers and reviewers have stated, the Gnote II is not a major upgrade from the Gnote, not really worth upgrading if you can wait for something better, and the only major change is the S-pen. It is more rubberdized with more friction and pressure points. There are a few more tricks you can do with it. However, the S-pen is pure novelty for me and I never even take it out anymore.

Boo on Samsung for being lazy and recycling the GSIII design on the Gnote II. Remember back in the day when companies actually released different looking phones instead of copying/pasting one design for their entire line? My biggest want was for a lighter phone, because 180ish grams is pretty heavy. Samsung actually made it ever so slightly heavier. I know there's a bigger battery, but still...
[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
There was a report that Samsung played with the idea and found it drained the battery too fast.

Site note:

As per this link: www.technobuffalo.com/companies/samsung/samsung-galaxy-note-ii-now-available-for-pre-order/

Negri has the note for preorder, and they believe the Note will ship out on October 26th.

So we might be waiting for two months - samsung said 'october' but that could still mean october 31st.

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Bigger battery is a huge selling point, to be honest. It was a fairly common complaint about the Note 1 - especially the LTE enabled one.

It's quite amazing they retained almost the same weight with a larger battery.

- Frank
[Galaxy Note II General] bigstarrynight:
Extra battery life is always a bonus, but that's about where its stops for the SGN II. The S Pen is not what I call a revolutionary feature. In all the hype that surrounds it, I have yet to see it demonstrated doing something useful, that your finger cannot do. More importantly there are bugs and faults surrounding the SGN I that have never been addressed. I will need to see the camera, video and stills work without that dam annoying pink dot or stain. The 'Black Crush' has to be addressed, and lastly, not forgetting the emmc brick bug.

Personally, I don't think Samsung will do a dam thing about those issues on the SGN I, and very sceptical about the SGN II being any better, they just hope it gets buried in the S-Pen hype. I find it weird that they call the device 'Note', and use a 16:9 ratio. 16:9 isn't really that intuitive for anything other than video work and viewing media. Even with stills, that aspect sucks. What would be the ideal, would have been to take the guts out of the Note II, and shove it into the Note I case (assuming all the previous issues are solved).
[Galaxy Note II General] DMax99:
They have it for	$724.50...that's not too bad of a price
[Galaxy Note II General] Strategist:
Seriously? I have found the S-pen to be far better than my finger for writing, drawing and photo-editing. Perhaps you don't do any of those on your phone but I suspect many GNote users do at least one.

For me the big use is taking notes. I often need to take notes with diagrams and numbers and the S-pen is really useful for that, certainly much better than using my fingers. I don't have any drawing skills but even then I enjoy fiddling around in Omnisketch sometimes. And the S-pen was great when I used to play Draw Something.

The S-pen improvments in the Note 2 are a fairly big deal. The pen will be longer and thicker which makes it easier to use. It has a rubberized tip and the button now has a notch which making it easier to find. The pen has more levels of pressure sensitivity. The phone can sense when it is taken out of the socket and react. And of course a whole bunch of new S-pen software features as shown in that excellent Samsung Mobile video linked above.
[Galaxy Note II General] DubelBoom:
this is pretty high....

i really think i will sell my electric guitar + amplifier + desire hd and buy this. if i'll need i'll also sell more things :D
[Galaxy Note II General] Tuffcheez:
I actually wonder how many people use the S pen. I haven't seen my son use it once usefully. My initial attraction to the GN is the size not the S pen, so it's superfluous to my needs although I can see people using it. I just wonder how many never take the S pen out?
[Galaxy Note II General] DMax99:
I don't use the s-pen much either....only when i'm playing Draw Something ....the only reason i'm with the note is because there is no other deviece out there that has bigger screen than the note that is pocketable and can make phone calls.
[Galaxy Note II General] Tuffcheez:
...Also despite my initial disappointment with the GN2 I have decided to buy it, unless another phablet appears that suits me better.
[Galaxy Note II General] @home:
But what about the wolfsen DAC in the note2/GS3 - much better than the dreadful Yammy in the Note 1.

Isn't there new software on the N2 that's not available for the N1?

I really wanted the N1 but the Kak sound for music puts me off.
[Galaxy Note II General] SealsNavie:
The Galaxy Note 2 is nothing special if you already own a Note, it is very ordinary. I just look at the specs and I know the good feeling will fade under a week.
[Galaxy Note II General] DubelBoom:
someone knows about the sound chip on this device? (i think its called sound chip...)

will it give good quality on headphones, and high volume on the speakers?

thanks :)
[Galaxy Note II General] freemini:
Now I'm convinced for Note 2 or iPhone 5. RIght now I want the Note a lot more because I always wanted a phone that I could use, I mean actually use. I will miss iMessage and the early game releases but I think it may be worth it. I don't remember my months with the SGS2 as a bad time.
[Galaxy Note II General] @home:
As I said....

But what about the wolfsen DAC in the note2/GS3 - much better than the dreadful Yammy in the Note 1.

Isn't there new software on the N2 that's not available for the N1?

I really wanted the N1 but the Kak sound for music puts me off.
[Galaxy Note II General] Gadgety:
Depending on your usage scenario, the II has got LTE and APT-X, both of which are big improvements for my usage.
[Galaxy Note II General] don2012:
I would wait..I just bought.they note n7000 the only thing that I really want is nfc :p

Better camera sensor.....still not worth upgrading maybe...2gb ram:p

Sent from my GT-N7000
[Galaxy Note II General] Gadgety:
In addition to the sound chip (D/A), the Note II has got APT-X which according to CSR makes "cd-quality sound" available wirelessly. If you are willing to consider getting an apt-x compatible bluetooth headset, the D/A is done in the headset. There are wireless headsets from Sennheiser, Creative, Jaybird, Motorola, Chord ("audiophile") electronics, although my pick is Nokia's apt-x and nfc compatible with active noise cancellation, in ear headset with up to 30db total noise reduction. Obviously you take your calls with this headset as well.

In addition there are external wireless D/A's, amplifiers and even speakers, which makes your 64+64gb Note II an excellent carrier of music in eg FLAC format, beyond lossy mp3.
[Galaxy Note II General] :
I always use it. S Note is great for compiling notebooks of recipes, as I enjoy a bit of cooking once in a while. S Memo is also awesome for leaving myself some reminders. The Note 2 is tempting. I don't know why everyone here is hating on it. It has better specifications and better software, so what else could Samsung have done?
[Galaxy Note II General] Echelonblue:
Would see its performance with ubuntu in chroot.

Yes it hasn't a15 cores. but The bigger battery ond double amount of RAM makes it good.

I rather think that it has enough performance for the tasks I use.

I use an Ubuntu 12.04 install in chroot. prob is that this has a big memory footprint. even with ldxe. . But it runs.

would love to get my hands on it when its rooted. to do same tweaking as i do with my Note 1

Curious about the screen. and its dimensions.

:o
[Galaxy Note II General] Gaugerer:
The aspect ratio of the iPhone is 1.33 and the aspect ratio of the Note 1 is 1.6 and the aspect ratio of the Note 2 is 1.77 so the Note 2 has moved further away from the iPhone and that was the point I was trying to make. I was not saying the Note 1 had the same aspect ratio as the iPhone. Sorry about the confusion.
[Galaxy Note II General] Bond@007:
Could you explain to me the " Quick Glance Feature " of the Galaxy Note ? I see a video in the beginning of this topic but i don't understand very good this feature ...

I see the led notification in light red and the man hide this and the screen off or on with missed calls, emails ...

With the proximity sensor of Galaxy Note 1, why not the same feature ?

I search that the screen on and off when i open the flip cover and close them ...
[Galaxy Note II General] Dousan:
Do you have Gimp running in that setup and if yes how does it perform?

Dousan...
[Galaxy Note II General] zas311:
The main reason I bought GNote was the SPen not the size. It is a godsend for me. I suffer from a minor short memory so I jot down before I forget. So I carry my Note always with me. No need to carry two devices (PDA and phone) like I used to.

Sent from my GT-N7000
[Galaxy Note II General] Phistachio:
Hey guys, I just have a quick question.

What's more worthy to buy? The Nexus 7 or the GNote 2? I wamted a phablet because I have big hands and the S2 is becoming small, but I also am not sure whoch one to get and if I should keep the S2. Or even wait for the S4 or the next Nexus...

Any input appreciated!
[Galaxy Note II General] msx999:
Note 2

The Nexus 7 is good, but as you know has no phone capabilities. You'd have to carry two things around instead of one.
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
Got a question for those of you who think the Note 2 isn't worth upgrading. What would make you upgrade from the Note 1 ( in terms of specs, screen, size)? What would you have preferred?
[Galaxy Note II General] Phistachio:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Plus the S Pen and better SoC + more RAM... Really can't wait to get it! The Note 2 is going to be quitr showy haha.
[Galaxy Note II General] DubelBoom:
you have a nice phone, do you really need a new one? if i was on your situation i would buy the nexus 7 because its a tablet.

i have the desire hd witch is very old, and i want a new phone and a tablet. because i cant effort it (not sure i can effort the N2 :D) i would buy the N2.

but, its your decision :D
[Galaxy Note II General] Silenus21:
Will upgrade.

Trying to make a good sell on mine.
[Galaxy Note II General] Phistachio:
Well, it's more "want" than need, but I really need a big screened smartphone. And the N2 is the N7 mixed with a GSII, which I really, really like.

If I do buy it's only on xmas, so I'll wait until then and see if anything new comes up.
[Galaxy Note II General] DubelBoom:
i also dont really need a new phone ;)

i also think the note 2 is a great combination, you made me think with my self and realize the note 2 is the perfect device for me. now i want it more than before :crying:
[Galaxy Note II General] RollingStar:
I'm slightly put off by the lower res screen and unwieldy looking taller profile, but mainly, it really isn't that big an upgrade. You can list specs all you like, and sure, the quad core SoC and 2gb of RAM will make the system a little smoother and faster (if the S3 is anything to go by), but it really isn't worth the hundreds it will cost to upgrade. The original Note is already extremely fast and smooth (even more so with a ROM like Kingdroid), and doesn't at all feel like it's unable to keep up. Jelly Bean will only make it faster.

Also, the early specs for next year's Exynos are crazy. I've never been one to hold of an upgrade, simply because there's ALWAYS something better around the corner, but damn, the quad core Exynos 5 will completely blow everything out of the water when it arrives. As it stands, I don't feel like the current Note has been blown out of the water by either the S3 or the Note 2.
[Galaxy Note II General] :
The Nexus 7 isn't a "phablet" at all, as it doesn't have 3G internet access or any phone capabilities whatsoever. The Note 2 is pretty much the only good option for a new tablet/phone hybrid device, unless you buy the older Note and get a better deal.
[Galaxy Note II General] N1NJATH3ORY:
True but my plan is to keep both :) My Note is only 3 months old.. My dilema is i have purchased everything for my GNote Official Samsung Charging Dock, Official Car Dock, S-Pen Holder kit, Official Flip Cover, its to much stuff to give away for not enough CASH ?? and its in perfect condition not a single mark on it :)

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QUOTE "I'm slightly put off by the lower res screen" Comon dude as if you can tell via naked eye i bet you if you played the same HD content on both notes you would no be able to tell the difference on playback :) but i cant say that for printed text also check out this video on your GNOTE Look at the black levels towards the end it looks frigging gorgeous :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t5mRY2WEUA
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
So far, the exynos 5 is supposed to be dual core. Who knows they may be a quad core version later next year. Still it's gonna be a beast.

A lot of people ( not you in particular) are saying it isn't worth upgrading but will definitely do. And later when there's a price drop even more people will do. Same thing happened with the S3 when many people thought it was a disappointment, then you got all these people that didn't wait for the price drop to upgrade. I had the S2 and now S3, no way I can go back to S2. The S3 is that much better. I think it'll be the same, maybe more with the note and note 2.
[Galaxy Note II General] elevul:
Just a higher resolution screen.

Rest is Ok, more or less.

I'd still wish they pumped the battery even further, since I still see it too thin, so plenty of space for a bigger battery.

EDIT: now that I think about it, they can easily fit a 6" screen there, without sacrificing portability, so I would like that.
[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
Tablets and phones have fairly different usage styles.

Phones are 24x7 devices - they fit in your pocket/purse/etc.

Tablets are bigger, but you now have to deal with lugging it around in a bag.

That's the trade off.

I think if you are out and about a lot, a tablet would be a real hassle and not worth the trouble.

If you are going to be staying in one spot a while ( airport, work commute, couch/bed ), then a tablet is nicer.

And you can spend the rest of your life waiting for the 'next big thing'.

There's no point in yearning for what it could have been. It is what it is?

The question is, is the upgrade worth the money to you.

- Frank

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I'm afraid not all of us have fingertips which are only 1mm wide.

Try writing some small text with the s-pen (or any ink pen) and then try replicating that with your finger.

Not going to happen.

This isn't technically note 2 related, it's more of an ICS thing -

Using the s-pen on GB was very annoying because sometimes you don't hold the s-pen right, or the calibration is off, etc.

Now that you can see where the pointer is on the screen - that's huge.

You can see exactly what is going on now, and you really have no excuse for ever clicking the wrong thing, regardless of how small

buttons/links are.

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This the problem with most people's wishlists - they ask for contradictory things.

Higher resolution = less battery. Samsung said they tried a higher res screen and decided the battery hit was too much.

There's a piece of me that wishes they had a thicker phone with more battery.

But the Note is already a heavy beast and it doesn't need to be any heavier.

It's already the heaviest smartphone on the market. (I think).

The dell streak must have been a real wrist breaker at 220 grams.
[Galaxy Note II General] tbong777:
I need a back up phone so I will likely get the Note II when the first ones show up used and development is in full swing and my note will make a great back up and Frankenstein phone.

I think the Note II is worthy. I don't think the "diminished" specs of the display will be realized by anyone but an eagle. People are too hung up on specs needing a microscope to realize and at some point smoothness will be a PIA. The smallest of screen flicks will move a column 100 spaces. LOL I don't want that kind of smooth.

I have 250MB of memory left on my phone and that is a LOT considering how many apps I would have to add to the device to gobble that up....another 100? Not gonna happen.

2MB of memory may likely mean sloppy code from developers writing apps because they won't have tight memory constraints. I saw this happen in the PC world when memory constraints were not a factor.

That said I am not an early adopter of any technology and await those who are. It was a good call not to buy the S3 for me after reading the reports of those who went back to the Note.

however this is a form factor I want to stay with and the Note II is a decent upgrade. When a stable and fully functioning Developed based on Stock JB ROM is released for the Note. I may change my mind and wait for the Note III in the Spring. So far I am in no hurry.
[Galaxy Note II General] :
So, who here is actually happy with the new Note II? I like the looks of it, personally. Won't be getting an upgrade though till 2014 when my contract allows me.
[Galaxy Note II General] DubelBoom:
i love it! amazing device!
[Galaxy Note II General] elevul:
Well, honestly, go to the Gym. :p

I barely even feel the Note 1 in my hand... :D

And no, it wasn't contradictory: as I said, the telephone is ridiculously slim anyway, so they might as well put a bigger, higher resolution screen AND a bigger battery. :D
[Galaxy Note II General] Czechnology.cz:
I had to pull my Streak out of the cradle just to make sure I'm reading correctly. I wouldn't call that a "wrist breaker" even in a joke. I always found it to be pretty light for it's size.
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
I think it's a fantastic upgrade. Will be getting one too, I may have to sell my S3 though :(
[Galaxy Note II General] speculatrix:
airview on galaxy note 1

I am wondering whether the airview feature requires special hardware and runs only on the GN2, or whether there's a chance it's purely software and Samsung or a clever XDA-Dev will get it running on the GN1?
[Galaxy Note II General] :
It's moved from 16:10 ratio to 16:9 and diagonal increase from 5.3 to 5.5. Using simple maths, it's just 2% increase in screen surface area (12.92 sq inch compared to 12.62 sq inch in Note).

But now it's not a PenTile matrix like in Note 1. So even though the screen is slightly bigger and lesser pixels, the sharpness is better.

GSMArena compared the screens.

Definitely much sharper than original Note even with (slightly) lower resolution.
[Galaxy Note II General] osazone:
I still have the original SGS. The reason we did not get an official ICS upgrade was poor RAM. That's why my phone still suffers (thanks to developers I have JB and XL memory now, and it is much faster than any official ROM) I didn't upgrade to SGS3 because of 1gb RAM. To talk about Note 2; main reason for me to buy it is the S-pen. I think it is the best for editing photos, shoot'em up style games, taking notes, drawing... and what else do you need a big screen like this for? It is a great upgrade for me!

For the sreen; it is not pentile, it has 3 subpixels instead of 2; isn't it better?
[Galaxy Note II General] Czechnology.cz:
The S-Pen sounds like an amazing thing to me too. As someone who moved to Android device from a good ol' Palm TX (oooh, how I miss PalmOS!!), I had a hard time not being able to use a stylus anymore. Having this option back might be great, if it works well.
[Galaxy Note II General] :
Just to let you know, I don't know of really any games which support the S Pen at present. Photo editing is better with it, because it is easier to crop, but it naturally can't replace a drawing tablet hooked up to Photoshop on a PC. When it comes to Note taking, even the Note 1 is pretty darn good. Note 2 looks even better!
[Galaxy Note II General] panyan:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii_n7100-review-806p2.php

8% decrease or 2% increase?
[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
Not technically true s-pen support, but:

Picross games like Nemo picross/Crossme are fantastic with the s-pen, because you can make the grid really small.

Also one finger action games (like say, xelorians) are quite nice with the stylus because less of your view is blocked by the stylus.
[Galaxy Note II General] :
I think GSMArena got the calculation wrong. Note screen surface area is 12.6247 sq inch. For Note 2, it's 12.9258 sq inch. It's increase of about 2%.
[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
Increase.

www.displaywars.com/5,5-inch-16x9-vs-5,3-inch-16x10

There's several reports that it's actually 5.55 inches, (which would be 4% increase) but samsung's walkthrough video says 5.3.
[Galaxy Note II General] :
If Samsung are determined to keep making S Pen compatible devices, then I'd love to seem some games actually utilise it.
[Galaxy Note II General] ChodTheWacko:
You know what, I realized I'm the only one who kinda complained about the weight.

I only felt it in my wrists after playing games or something for a few hours. Maybe it's my carpel tunnel coming back. urgh.

I could see phones starting to get thicker/heavier in order to get bigger batteries in, as things start consuming more and more battery power.

I suppose, in retrospect, the note could have/should have been made 'more solid' at the expense of weight/thickness. At least more people complained about the former.

- Frank
[Galaxy Note II General] osazone:
That's what I meant
[Galaxy Note II General] CGI_Ram:
Im always an early adopter. The Note 2 is an impressive device; but Im not blown away and surprisingly likely to stay with Note 1.

Samsung should have waited longer for this launch. A bigger S3 is sorta lame.