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[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
In my testing, most apps will return to wide mode.. and a few will go wide that you may not expect (like the People tile). I don't believe this 8835 build is final, since some apps won't go back wide like Pictures. The XBL also has no animations like it did previously. HTC Hub, I think that can be fixed if HTC updates it, but until they do its stuck like it is.

Camera works fine... flash works.. no idea why it wouldn't. O_o just tried it to confirm. Same drivers I used in my Tango rom.. same OEM, just swapped the SYS. I've used it as my daily the last three days and haven't had any issues other then the Pictures tab not going back to long, and HTC Hub, but I don't blame the build for that. This is just natural stuff that crops up during development of an OS.

I think Microsoft's strong reaction to this leak means that this is clearly NOT the release build we are going to see. I think we'll see a higher build number, with things like an enhanced XBL tile (since that goes wide.. but doesn't have any of the "classic" animations of our avatar like we're used too), fixed Pics.. ect. I don't see these issues so much as bugs, but as in development hiccups. I thought we'd see more of the Skype integration, but that may be a WP8 feature.

IMO, if HTC Hub is that important (and I kinda agree, i use it a lot), then roll back to Tango. If your planing on going back to Tango on the way, give my 7.8 rom a shot first to give it a try.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] s10010001:
Yea I ended up loading it all up. It is indeed running well. There are a few odd things in the build like the mail tile when small cutting off the number, and when you make some apps tiles small you get cut off text, and some it removed the title text.

Its faster/smoother than the first 7.8 rom. It seems like my 3gb speeds are slower but that may be me being nit picky and looking for problems.

man, IDK what to do with all the stuff I can fit on the start screen now, its almost too much :)

Ohh BTW: I went to your tango rom, then to the first 7.8rom, and right back to your tango, then to your 7.8...
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] khanh2705:
My 3G doesn't work :( How can i fix this?
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
So long as you're using Verizon's Trophy.. did you try playing around with Connection Setup? Please start a topic in the general forum so we can focus on your issue instead of going on topic.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] s10010001:
Whats the font issue I keep reading about with the current 7.8 build? Is that why the font is a little funny looking (different font) when typing anything?
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] defiantone:
Do I have to downgrade SPL to flash this rom

Hey sorry if this has been addressed. The SPL on my phone is SPL 3.2 230512.2..

do i have to downgrade to a previous version before I can flash this rom?
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] tonbonz:
I believe so to achieve RSPL/ HSPL. See this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1503298
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] defiantone:
---=-

Thanks for the response. I did follow the directions that the link provided. I downgraded the SPL to 1.03, ran the DFT lauch and install,..both reported sucessful. But when I tried to flash the rom, it just sat the at zero percent complete...then timed out. Did I miss a step?

Thanks
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] DavidinCT:
How stable is the 7.8 rom, is it good enough for a daily rom ? And the camera works, and has all it's settings (can set to 5mp and 720p?) ?

I really need a solid 7.8 rom that has a perfect working camera and performs awsome...
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] s10010001:
don't we all... however unfinished code is unfinished code.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
Please stop talking about issues that have never existed in this rom. You all jumped at a chance to try a 7.8 rom from someone that doesn't even own a SparkW, and I'm sick of it. My rom has no camera issues because it NEVER has had these issues. Don't lump me together with another rom!

Instead of *****ing about another roms issues in my thread, go post it in their thread. Apparently everyone wants a damn Nokia theme so damn bad that they don't give a damn about stability and ease of use, or updatability. I've seriously had it with the users in this forum. I've bought not one, not two, but three SparkW's for developing my rom the way I want to. I've gotten one donation for all of this work and effort (thanks btw :) ) but since I didn't get a 7.8 rom our "first" I'm not even making enough to expand my collection of devices like I wanted to build roms for others.

For the love of Pete, please just download the damn rom OR read the entire thread for an answer to a question that has already been answered! I'm going back to my third week of work weekend ot now...

*edit* I got a day off!! Halleluiah! Still doesn't make me bitter about people not even giving my 7.8 rom a shot when I never did them wrong with my Tango release.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] MARKREIF:
This is my second 7.8 Rom (tried Sianto's Nokia version b4) and the fact that it isn't a Nokia ROM and is update-able makes it numero uno for me. It's smooth and a pleasure to use.

Thanks for your work - donation to follow
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] mangojain:
Sorry, i was lazy about posting a 'thank you' for the 7.8 rom . . . i've said it before, your roms are the best for the Verizon Trophy and i couldn't agree more - why anybody would want to install a Nokia rom on a Verizon device beats me, installing a few Nokia ringtones or themes shouldn't be too difficult

I still haven't been able to get WMDC to work with my phone, maybe i'll get lucky some day . . . does it allow you to sync Exchange contacts and mails as you could do in WP 6.5 ?
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] MARKREIF:
I'm syncing all aspects of Exchange just fine (was hoping for an SMS Exchange option with 7.8 or 8.0 but alas nothing yet)
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] DavidinCT:
Dude, calm down. I didn't see you rom when I checked out the other rom when I came looking for a 7.8 rom. I used your Tango rom before and never any issues with it, nor do I question your work. I was trying 7.8 roms and someone pointed me to the other one(and I know a lot are buggy). That is why I tried it. I read through the thread and somethings said about the camera, so I was just checking.

I didn't mean to offend, but, I will try your rom, I was just asking how stable it was from other people who tried and IF there was any spotted issues with the camera that people have seen.

Sorry if I offended you by asking that....
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
This is easier then you think, just start Zune, then WMDC might start automatically (might have to run WMDC). It confused the heck out of me too. But no, WMDC on WP7 lacks the feature to sync contacts.. I primarily use it to put files onto my phone by browsing the phones files and folders (but even that has limitations). It's better then nothing though, amazing any parts of it work at all.

No, sorry.. I was just in a bad place at the time I posted that. I've been working outrageous 7 day weeks at work and over reacted for the wrong reasons. it's hard to actually comprehend something when your running on low sleep (yeah, I thought you where complaining about camera issues without trying my rom, that's how out of whack I was). I'm just a bit upset that no one seems to want to give the rom a shot when my Tango rom worked so well. :/
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] DavidinCT:
I got pointed to the other rom. From reading here, it seems your 7.8 rom works pretty well, can take the HTC update for the newest radio and drivers. I will try it, if I can this weekend, like you, I have been working 6-7 days a week and just moved so my life is a mess (and still 60% in boxes) and for some reason, I NEED to have 7.8 on phone NOW....I DO feel your pain.

The other rom is a Nokia rom, it has it's perks but, downfalls. It is Nokia, so no HTC apps unless I mod it, No verizon apps, and the camera is a POS on it. Only nice thing, is I could download Nokia Drive 3.0 from the marketplace and it worked fine (free Navi) but, I can find it any place on the web for free anyway....

Thanks for your reply and I will be trying your 7.8 rom this weekend !!!

Edit: downloading now...looking forward to trying a Trophy rom that thinks it's not a Noika !
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] DavidinCT:
Is there any mirrors for your 7.8 rom ? I've been trying for the last 2 hours and it's slow and I only get up to 10% before it finally times out...
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] jibgilmon:
I'll be trying the room perhaps later in the week. A little swamped at the moment. Also, donation has been pending, just need to fix an issue with my bank -.-

I've supported your professionalism from the start, and I hope it's been noticed :P
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
Yes! Thanks so much! I'm really happy with anything anyone can send my way so I can increase my device collection! I've recently added an HTC Pro 7 (Arrive) to my collection, and I'm going to next try and get a Spark GSM.

I've gotten multiple notices about the download mirrors, I'm out of time before I go to work, but I'll get some mediafire links up after I get out. If I've got the energy, I'm going to try and get some international builds out in the next few days.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] DavidinCT:
I tried to download all day, got no more than 10%...can't try your rom if I cant get it....

Keep an english only....
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
Added Mediafire mirrors. The mirror link is to a folder, and the files will appear in that folder only after they are uploaded (uploading now). 8835 is uploading first, but it shouldn't be too long for both builds to be uploaded.

ALL LINKS ARE DIRECT MEDIAFIRE LINKS NOW! I USED SOME DONATION MONEY TO UPGRADE MY MEDIAFIRE ACCOUNT AGAIN!

Even after I release an international version, I will still make and English only rom. Adding all the packs into one rom just makes the final file size too damn big. I'll probably do regional releases after I get everything together (like Asia, eastern Europe.. Middle East.. etc). Worst case the English (US) rom might come with Spanish, but that's it.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] gpost104:
XevRev, I downloaded this yesterday and installed it today. I have a new phone since the last time I installed HSPL and tried everything to get it installed from my work laptop. I had to do it on my home computer but finally got it and got 7.8 beta installed. So far, it's working great. I updated through Zune and that went fine. It seems to open things a little faster. For example, Sky Wallet was always a little laggy but it is noticably quicker with this version. Now just have to re-install everything, which is kind of a pain. Sure wish MS would do what WebOS did and make it easy to restore your phone.

Thanks so much for your work.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] DavidinCT:
Yea, that is my biggest issue with custom roms, installing everything and losing my save games... Some things claim to save things about 90% of the time they fail or dont work right in restore...

I'm installing the 7.8 rom as I type this. I will play with it tonight but, if it works like everyone says, I will stick with it for a while, unless a newer build of 7.8 comes out or the final comes out (or if Verizon releases the Lumia 920, then it wont be touched any more)
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
It appears that the Lumia 920 will be exclusive to the evil blue Nazi network. This pretty much forces me to only consider the 8X as my next phone, so long as that doesn't exclusively end up on another network. Verizons got to get something, just wish I knew what it was so I could start looking forward to it. I'll dig up links when I get home on the 920 going exclusive Nazi.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] gpost104:
I'm really happy with this rom. The sizeable tiles are really, really nice. I found that the small ones don't really do much, if any, "live tiling" so I leave the active ones regular size. It's great to be able to make the calendar tile smaller. Some of the formatting on the tiles are a little offI love the lime green theme. Overall, phone seems faster, but maybe it's just because I did a hard reset. Typing seems a little better and I like the bigger fonts when you type.

Is there a way in this rom to do screenshots? I know the old homebrew way but I thought there was a way in 7.8.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
I only know of the Screen Capture app available on Bazaar. As a note, I had 290 downloads for my 8335 build under the old mirror, and 127 with the mediafire mirror in just one day. Guess the speed was pretty bad. I got plenty of bandwidth chunked away on mediafire (almost 450GBs + my 50GB allotment for the month), so I think anyone who wants to try it for now is good to go. I really had no idea that the rom was so popular, I'll try to whip out beta 2 by the end of the week.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] DavidinCT:
There is a lot of rumor about the 920 on Verizon, a lot of people are saying that the 920 is an 30-60 day AT&T Exclusive and might end up on Verizon. I want to like the 8X but, it's a mid-line phone with 16gb of memory. Unless I get a 8X used off contract, I will wait till HTC shows off their high end model (aka the Zenith). THey need something to compete directly with the 920 and the 8X is not even close.

I know AT&T claimed it being exclusive but, they also claimed that the 820 is an exclusive but, there are sites showing Vzw will carry the 822, so maybe verizon will get the 922 ?? It's not the same phone, right ?

yea, sorry but, yes, this is going a little off topic here...
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] mangojain:
Oh no, not another rom please ! Hope you're talking about only the international builds, not another version of the English-only rom.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
At this point, its a matter of "everything." Doing international release of Tango will be easy, but finding a damn sys dump of 8835 is guna be the trick... I just need some more free time... hoping for a three day weekend this week.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] DavidinCT:
The rom runs smooth so far, no major issues, font is like bold (not crazy about it) but, otherwise that, it's pretty good (7.8 rom)
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] sinister1:
Why can't I side load apps? It says to make sure that the phone is connected? Help.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] sinister1:
:eek: Never mind, just figured out I can email the XAP's to my self.:o
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
Phone needs to be setup in Zune first before you can push apps to it. Email is one way to install, some run Zune then WMDC and copy the apps somewhere like MyDocs, then install them by browsing to them with WP7 Root Tools. There are various ways you can deploy xaps without deploying from your PC.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] s10010001:
you can also keep all your xaps on a Skydrive folder :) then you can click thru them all at once.

However you need to disable the association on the XAPDeploy app thing before you can run install XAPs fro IE. Also, you need to access skydrive via IE not via the skydrive app.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] anihilus:
Request: Bare Bones ROM

One of the best SparkW Roms! Lighter than ansar or Sianto and actually works fully!

Great work!

Can you offer a bare bones more secure version too?

I noticed most of the Bazaar/sideload apps are huge privacy & security threats. They require access to nearly everything, gaining access to owner info, phone info, contacts, location, personal files, etc. scary!

For example: the "Digital Power" xap requires access to tons of private stuff! (location, data, phone calls, sensors, mic, media, push, browser, xbox live, owner identity, phone)

Why? just to change the icons for my battery. NO THANK YOU!

With that said, can you offer a bare SparkW more secure Rom and offer the Xap separately?

thanks again!
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] DavidinCT:
Why does it matter ? Just hold the icon and select "uninstall" then it will be gone. Other apps have things preinstalled, that is one of the great things about Windows Phone, anything you dont want, carrier or 3rd party apps can be removed, and they are FULLY removed, not just the icon like a lot of Android apps...

Flash the rom you want, and select the crap you dont want and uninstall it...

Out of the 3 Verizon Trophy (Spark_W) 7.8 roms, this one is the cleanest, No extra languages, no extra ring tones, no extra colors... As any other apps can be removed anyway.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
This is what "Root Manager" is for. You can enable any side loaded apps that you trust. Any application installed after setup isn't given root access unless you select it in Root Manager as "Trusted." If you choose to not give Xap Deployer access, no XAP can be deployed to the phone (as far as I know).

Even if I made a bare bones version, the only things I could really remove are Accelerometer and Quick Lauch. An app like Search Key you could change what you want, then set it to untrusted so it couldn't run again,and apps like Root Manager (which MANAGE what apps get root) and Xap Deployer would simply need to stay. WMDC is just too damn handy not to have on the phone either. As DavidCT said above, you can just hold press any app, and remove it if it concerns you. Security is one of the reasons I am using ultrashot's unlock over DFTs, as ultrashot's comes with root manager to keep apps in check. The only other option would be to install WP7 Root Tools, but on this rom, their root managers work in tandem if you have both installed.

As DavidCT said.. I'm not sure how you could get a rom that is much lighter then mine. Most roms load in a bunch of stuff, and I've kept it basic. I do still plan to have Bazaar installed by default eventually, but for now, 1a is going to be the beta until I start making changes.

The plan for beta 2 right now is as follows:

Tethering unlocked (not stuck to VZW)

Regional builds

add Bazaar and maybe Reinstaller.

Roll back Tango build to 8773

That's about it. I don't have anything huge to get done in this rom at the moment. The most drastic change will probably come when there is an official 7.8 build from Verizon, and then you'll see some huge changes, I'm sure.

Oh yes, International 8835 is finally up (well, it will be shortly). Please let me know if any language is incomplete (like you try to start an app, and it doesn't start). I am aware from my limited testing that some languages other then English, may produce a deformed default tile menu, but you will end up moving it all around anyway playing with it, so who cares right now. lol

If you really want your default tiles to line up correctly in your language other then English, set the phone up in English, then switch languages after.

Also, not all root apps like Root Manager are in all languages (so they still default to English).
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] mangojain:
Ok, i'll install beta2 (with 8773 instad of 8779) after you make it available, wait for the 7.8 update to come along via Zune and that'll be it. I'm using your 8835 rom currently, it had installed HTC updates through Zune but is now not connecting through Zune for some reason. It connects okay to WP Device Manager. If you stretch the messages tile, it displays the last unread msg, but beyond that i personally don't see any big deal about the resizable tiles.

I read somewhere that the 7.8 update will be rolled out by Microsoft through Zune, independent of carriers.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
The not connecting to Zune thing is odd, but I've had that issue even with my locked HTC Pro 7. Normally I have this happen when I reboot and my phone is plugged into the computer. I just unplug the phone and plug it back in, then manually start Zune.

I find it strange you can use WMDC without Zune turned on, as I normally must have it on.

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[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] anihilus:
You & DavidinCT make good point.

Your Rom simply works and is the lightest! Fantastic work. thank you.

Sorry for posting this mini rant your thread...

Perhaps, the community has interest to follow-up with some of these app developers to understand their justification for posing security & privacy threats to our community without disclosure. Some of these xap files are just darn scary..malware/spyware-like.

Anyhow, Looking forward to your next version as I appreciate all the time and effort you put in your roms.

thank you.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
The real problem is the limits Microsoft has placed on how programers can program their applications. In WM 6.5, devs could do whatever they wanted, and distribute their apps anyway they wanted. WP7 changed that by limiting the access to the OS (most homebrew devs would say by far too much). This means applications for customizing what would seem like simple things, like metro's accent colors, require a ridiculously high level of access to the OS.

I originally started working on unlocked roms to make it so SparkW could have Internet Sharing, but the hilarious part is that by the time I released my own rom, Verizon released an official update to enable Internet Sharing. I really have no need an unlocked rom in my day to day use other then to (now) have 7.8 on my phone. The only homebrew app I really use is WinTT, and that is only because it has the smoothest implementation of an Airplane mode tile I can find.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] sinister1:
Is there any way to fix the HTC Hub to be a large tile? I accidently made it a small tile while trying to move it and now it just give me a medium size or a small tile :confused:
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
Nope, there isn't any way (even if you leave it large sized, it doesn't function correctly). We'll have to wait for HTC to issue an update to HTC Hub. :(
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] TheXev:
Okay, so Dynamics v2.0 came out today. I'll start porting it over tomorrow morning, and see if I can aim for a release in one-two days. I'll probably do two updates, one that is just a Dynamics 2.0 port with the current configuration, and then another one later with a newer Verizon OEM after official release (although OEM cab updates should still work as they have for the time being).

I will also take time to checkout this new WPBackup tool, which seems to be the long overdue backup tool we've been looking for to flash new roms and keep our old stuff (or in my case, move from phone to phone).
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] jibgilmon:
Excellent, can't wait!
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] DavidinCT:
Oh, are you working with 8858 (AKA the final build)??? If your doing a new rom, please add a ton of colors combos ! Also watch the font used, in your rom (still running it by the way), the fonts were wrong (for texting/email, etc), so I had to add them from another thread on here. On your defense, it was a common issue with roms...(if you need me to, i will find the thread that this was said in with the fonts).

Thanks !!! Not trying to insult, just trying to give you my 0.01...

I look forward to your next rom !
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] s10010001:
Cool beans Xev! I was going to wait it out until the official push, but the Dv2.0 looks pretty legit. I might have to give yours a try. Expecially some of the features like Nokia apps without renaming, and ringtones from music library.

your helping me hold out until the HTC 8x is under $100 with contract... I'm currently refusing to may $200 for a device that is not as cool at the $100 AT&T 920.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] grunge100:
The Xev, Thanks a bunch. I will be installing as soon as its out....

Cheers.
[Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development] s10010001:
How is this thing goin? is it giving you problems?

sorry, were excited :)