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[Nexus 7 Accessories] belgian pie:
The N7 dock is crap ... had the last week several times that my N7 wasn't recharged in the morning ... the contact points don't 'contact' precise enough ... bad design!

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... and no, I didn't put it upside down!
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Dlewczyk:
Thanks - just what I was looking for. :good:
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Andrew025:
I've noticed if the n7 is placed further to the left side it doesn't make full contact. When you put it in just try to push a bit to the right.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] dime079:
Thanks, I'll have to check this out when I get home.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] RootTheMachine:
Docked it at 80% last night, and in the morning was at 85%. Battery graph simply showed a plateau, and it was neither charging nor discharging.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Andrew025:
Mine seems to charge just as quick as plugging in.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] signumized:
Mine does the same when daydream is activated. Even with the lowest brightness, is it possible that the consumption is that high compared to the charging? Unbelievable, as it cannot be used as a bedside clock or anything. If the display is closed, charging is normal.

Another thing would be the design of the official cover. It covers completely the pogo pins so it cannot be used together with the dock. Did Asus thought at that when they designed those accessories?

:) seems not.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] aiiee:
Play Store now shows "In Stock", shipping in 3-5 days. Get 'em while you can.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] RootTheMachine:
Hmm that's weird, I made sure to shut my screen off and it happened.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] fonseca898:
:highfive:
[Nexus 7 Accessories] travisjustin:
The first night I had it on the dock it did that but haven't had problems since. Charges just like it was directly plugged in. Think the only change I made was updating my kernel.

Sent from my Paranoid 3.1 Nexus7 running M-Kernel
[Nexus 7 Accessories] RootTheMachine:
Haha nice, I actually use that for my laptop.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] SgtMarcin:
After two weeks of waiting (from 12th of March) finally today i've got my dock.

I bought in online Asus shop. Google shop is not working in Poland.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Hupro1971:
I really wish i could get one of those it would be the perfect accessory.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] roppolo:
Docks showing to be in stock at CostCaptain.com

Never heard of this place and i'm kinda weary about ordering from them. Going to do a little nosing around before I pull the trigger.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Nasalhair:
Docks are also in stock again on Google Play. I've just ordered one.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Sam.O:
They don't have it in stock

I ordered from them a week ago and got a message saying they were having difficulty fulfilling the order a couple days later. I cancelled it this weekend. Still waiting for money to be refunded. They have a bad rating via WOT.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] roppolo:
Not according to what I'm lookin at ... :confused:
[Nexus 7 Accessories] jenskristian:
The dock has finally arrived in Norway. After placing my pre-order in December it was finally shipped today. Now all I need is the wireless charging orb :P

I ordered from MPX.no if there are any fellow Norwegians that's also waiting for this.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Nasalhair:
Just checked again - still in stock on the Play Store (UK) and mine was despatched yesterday :D
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ghost__:
Docks have been "in stock" at CostCaptain.com since January 20th, the date that I ordered mine from them. It still hasn't shipped.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] hotsauce32:
Newegg has the dock available for $34.99 EDIT: Sold out now

I set up an e-mail alert for when they were back in stock, and I just got the notification a few minutes ago

I can't post any links due to my post count, but just copy and paste the model number 90-XB3XOKDS00030 into Newegg's search bar and it'll pop up
[Nexus 7 Accessories] krowwf:
ASUS Google Nexus 7 Docking Station

Try ExCaliberpc.com, site says 15 in stock. I ordered one Wednesday for $39.99 (USD) and it shipped the same day from Fremont, CA. Good Luck
[Nexus 7 Accessories] rborg:
That keeps happening to mine. I have to check it very carefully. Or I'll notice Daydream start then stop, repeat. Annoying for something that was not cheap.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] T-Keith:
Just ordered mine from tigerdirect. Cost captain put it in hold and amazon is still on back order. My use port is borked so this is my only hope.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] kcchen:
I haven't had problems with mine. The added weight of the case seems to be enough to keep the devices settled on the pins. Nevertheless, I give mine a little push after I've set it into the dock. With use, the tension on the pins should ease up.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] kacpr:
I didn't want to create a new thread just to ask it - is leaving the Tablet connected to the dock safe for the battery? How does it work really - does the battery constantly discharge and charge again, or is the tablet switching to external power?

It's easter break at uni so I don't get to use my tablet at all, and I'm just worried it will impact the battery life.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] khaytsus:
Same as if it's plugged in. The device regulates its charging cycle without any user intervention required. It won't overcharge, it doesn't trickle charge. It'll discharge to some fixed amount then charge again.

The only concern (and again, same as regular charger) is if its in a hot environment, LiPoly deteriorate faster at 100% than if they're at 50%.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
[Nexus 7 Accessories] [AFX]:
Sorry if this has been asked/answered, but I must ask: if you decide to use the dock to charge via pogo pins, can you use the micro USB port on the nexus 7 to use a wireless mouse/keyboard/flash drive/etc? Its somewhat of a factor for purchasing. Thanks.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] RootTheMachine:
Haven't tried it, but I really don't see why not. I'll test it later perhaps.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] [AFX]:
Thanks I appreciate it.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] [AFX]:
Were you able to test?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] RootTheMachine:
Yeah I just remembered. I plugged in a mouse and it worked fine.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] roppolo:
Got mine in from TigerDirect. Is there a decent case or cover that works with it?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Mach3.2:
The tablet will not charge if you connect something to the USB Port.

Beamed from my Maguro.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] T-Keith:
Got mine from tigerdirect. Works as expected, no complaints. Is it worth $35, well that's up to you. For me with my borked port it was. I hate microusb ports, hopefully my next phone or tablet has wireless charging.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] matwu37:
Do any of you think this Nexus 7 dock will be compatible with the rumored 2nd Gen Nexus 7?!

I am considering to buy one now for my Nexus 7, but I am sure I will get the 2nd Gen the first day when it come out....

I don't want to spend 35 bucks for just a couple months....
[Nexus 7 Accessories] E15i:
Neah, no way that will be like that, actually you can think of the 32GB and 32GB+3G as 2gen..anyway, you always have eBay, so just sell your first gen + dock, and buy a new one instead, when it out.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] IRX120:
My tablet looses more power than the dock can supply, I set it on the dock with 20% power, and play Pandora, it dies on me while charging
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Nospin:
I would wait and see.

There is no precedent for Google keeping accessories compatible across generations, and Android manufacturers in general NEVER do it. But imho it would be a very smart thing for them to do. Right now I have no plans to buy the second gen Nexus 7, but I would be VERY tempted if my dock was compatible.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Angus66:
B&H Photo has the dock in stock for $34.75 for those still looking for one...
[Nexus 7 Accessories] gohan040:
What kind of charger do u use? The original one? If not, what are the specs...

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[Nexus 7 Accessories] Bob Smith42:
I got mine from TigerDirect too. I have two cases for my two Nexus 7 & Nexus 7 3G. The features are exactly the same on both cases but the leather is a better quality: The cover closes and puts screen to sleep, but you can still listen to music or talk on Groove IP with the cover closed. When the cover opens the screen awakes.

MoKo Slim-fit Case for Google Nexus 7 Android Tablet (Black) $14.99 USD

MoKo(TM) Genuine Leather Slim-fit Cover Case for Google Nexus 7 Android Tablet by Asus, Black $24.99 USD

The two lower corner clips release, the cover folds back, and the elastic strap slips over the corners on top. This configuration fits into the dock perfectly without further removing the case. The case can also be configured into its own stand without a dock.

I have a Nexus 7 and Nexus 7 3G and the microphone ports are in different locations. These cases do not block the microphone ports on either model Nexus 7.nor Nexus 7 3G.

I love the cases and dock and everything works together great.

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I have no inside info, but I expect the next generation will have HDMI out on the dock in addition to power and speakers. I would love to see microphone (line) in on the dock, but I'm not holding my breath. If the new version has HD graphics it makes sense to have HDMI output via the dock.

It would be outrageous (if Asus is listening) to have charging in the dock *plus* USB hub features for memory, keyboard, mouse, etc. Basically, we would not need the micro USB port. Okay, now I'm dreaming. LOL
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Flowyk:
I think the new model is already projected or at least not in stage in where you can add functions
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Angus66:
My dock arrived today - works exactly as advertised. :cool:
[Nexus 7 Accessories] asanderford:
Does this dock have speakers? I've been waiting soooooooooo long on a good speaker dock for my N7.

If it does have speakers, is the dock worth the money? and how is the sound quality?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Mach3.2:
No speakers, just a line out...

Beamed from my Maguro.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Nospin:
You need to plug in a pair, but the audio out works great with mine.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] philbion:
I want to use my N7 primarily as a video phone (skype) and have it on 24/7 in dock (using it in photo frame mode while on standby) in case my grand daughter wants to call, if I want to move around the house and position it on a table while having a conversation it will have to have some sort of portable stand. What comes to mind is can the N7 reside in a case (with flip out stand) as well as be in the pogo dock, I suspect not. Any solutions appreciated.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Flowyk:
cut case to not interfere with dock ... or make custom dock ... there is small chance to find case that will fit into dock (imho it will be harder to find that than make own dock) ... or buy some cheap dock with usb conn
[Nexus 7 Accessories] kcchen:
The cheap Moko cases from Amazon work with the OEM dock.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] freak4dell:
Adorama has it for $32.99 with free shipping on eBay. Pretty much the cheapest I've seen from a reputable seller outside of Google Play.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-Dockin...t=Laptop_Docking_Stations&hash=item5655984803
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Warren_Orange:
I'm thinking of picking up this dock. Its £30 over here in the UK. Pretty steep yes.

Can anyone tell me what the audio out is like via the dock? I'm thinking of attaching some powered speakers.

Cheers.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ro_explorer:
The audio out is OK, it has the levels of a regular line-out of any generic system. The draw-back is the same as Galaxy S1 dock had - if you plug the charger in the dock, you will start hearing the specific switching noise of the power adapter (like a discreet and annoying buzz).
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Warren_Orange:
Hey cheers for that. It's good to know.

I will have to think a bit more before I click buy.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] h1m:
Anyway to fix that?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Warren_Orange:
I would presume only use the aux out when not charging the device. Far from ideal but better than nothing.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] freak4dell:
A ground loop isolator should take care of the buzzing. For $30 or $40, they should have built one in, but oh well.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ro_explorer:
you will have to insert that ground loop isolator inside the tablet unfortunately. There is where the supply and audio grounds are common. I already tried using the same ground loop isolarot that I'm using in my car, w/o success.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] teomor:
Does anyone use the dock in bed or sofa (any non-neat surfaces)? Is it sturdy enough, or does the tablet easily tip over? Would you guys say a case with a stand capability, like the Moko one, will be better than the dock, in this situation?

Also, I understand that the tablet will charge a little bit faster compared to the micro-USB port? Is that true? How much faster? Would you be able to watch an HD movie and actually gain charge?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] lanzen:
I don't think it'd be a good idea as any little movement can cause sound loss and/or disconnection from power charger. A dock is made to be placed on stable support.

Also I find charging slower when docked.

Nexus 7 + Cyano 10.1 testing Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 7 Accessories] rastlin:
Really???? Huh.... I would've figured that it would charge faster....
[Nexus 7 Accessories] lanzen:
Well... don't take it for granted. That's my experience and others may think different. Plus I tend to use it while docked and that surely could make a difference.

LZee - Tapatalk4 on GNexus
[Nexus 7 Accessories] siddesu:
FWIW, mine charges much faster from the dock than from the AC charger and using it doesn't make all that big a difference. But it should be put on a firm surface that is absolutely flat and touched very lightly while charging, or random disconnects occur all the time.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] lanzen:
As I said, you you might well be right. I never really did any serious testing and what I wrote was my impression. Actually I would have expected both dock and charger to behave the same, more or less. ;)

Of course, as you said, firm surface and light touch are a must!

Nexus 7 + Cyano 10.1 testing Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 7 Accessories] warface:
Anyone noticed the dock is scratching the bezel on their N7?

Sent from my Nexus 7™
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ales007:
OMG :eek: ,how much time after you started using it did this scratches come?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] warface:
I bought the dock on the 18th of February, but couldn't say when I noticed the scratches had appeared.

They are actually gouges in the plastic. If you run a fingernail over them, you can feel the grooves the pogo pins have made...

Sent from my Nexus 7™
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Andrew025:
Are you throwing that thing in there from across the room?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] warface:
It gets used a helluva lot, but I'm definitely not rough with it.

The rest of the tablet is in mint condition.

Just seems that those pogo pins are a bit hard....

Sent from my Nexus 7™
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Andrew025:
How exactly do you put it in there?

Curious how it got the gouges towards the front along the screen like that.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] warface:
Been checking out my docking technique this evening.

I seem to stick the n7 into the dock either vertical, or with the n7 leaning forwards, and then sort of swivel it away from me onto the pins.

Its obvious this is how I've gouged the plastic.

If I dock the n7 with the tablet at the angle it sits in the dock, it goes in straight onto the pins. This is obviously the way ASUS/Google designed it to work.

I'm not fussed about the scratches, as it does not impair the performance of the n7, just wondered if anyone else had seen it.

Sent from my Nexus 7™
[Nexus 7 Accessories] feyodo:
http://www.365gate.com/product-613.html Is it right ?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Andrew025:
Do you work for 365gate or something?

Almost all your posts have some link to that site.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] feyodo:
Hi, NO NO ! I cant find the new website ,Can you give me the new info ?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] siddesu:
I have em too, opposite the two ridges at the two edges of the groove for the tablet. They are really lost in all the other marks that my daily usage has inflicted on the tablet, but yeah, if I look for them, I can find them.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] lanzen:
Me too, tiny and visible only at very close inspection on the front side close to the screen border. None elsewhere.

It seems that accurate inclination is needed to lower the risk of occurrence.

LZee - Tapatalk4 on GNexus
[Nexus 7 Accessories] downwiththebanksters:
I'm having the same problem a few others are having. It is very fussy how it needs to sit in order to charge. Last night I left it in and it didn't charge overnight. Now I've been charging it this afternoon and it has not charged one out of three times I placed it gingerly on the dock. Each time I put it in it seems I have to fiddle with it just to initiate charging, and then am never sure if it is actually charging properly as the screen goes to clock. I saw an earlier post by someone who said there were two models listed: 90-XB3XOKDS00020 (mine) and one that ended in 00030. I'm wondering how many other folks are having these connection problems. The product reviews on Amazon have several people complaining about this too, while some say charging OK, but audio is flaky. I haven't tried to do audio through it yet, but do note some folks are sometimes having connection problems. Perhaps these issues are related to the POGO connection with the dock as well. If you are having problems could you check the bottom of your dock and see whether you have model/Rev. xxxxx20, or xxxxx30. Perhaps this model revision, and what could be a slight design flaw that made insertion not always result in charging/audio output, was the cause of the delay in bringing the dock to market? Amazon is presently showing Item model number: 90-XB3XOKDS00030- for sale.

I bought mine here in Taiwan for my 32GB 3G which is only a few weeks old. I paid the retailer in the local computer mall NT$1400 for the dock and the grey stock travel case together. I am presently running stock 4.2.2, unrooted, and it has never been flashed/rooted. I am using the wall wart and cable that came with the N7 to power the dock.

So could anyone who is having issues,

or not

, please post their model revision, either 20 or 30, which is stamped on the bottom of the dock, and report them here? If it seems the xxx20 rev is a problem it may help us in RMA'ing these units.

Thanks
[Nexus 7 Accessories] E15i:
Umm I asked about, I think 0030 is for international, and 0020 for Americas, why? bacuse:

and

One say something in French I think, the other not, so that why I think, one for Europe, other for Americas, my box has 4.2 sticker on the back.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] downwiththebanksters:
My box's two faces have the same images as yours, but I attach what might seem to be the more relevant images of the bottom and UPC which indicate it is an Asia Pacific product. Sadly, I read the whole thread, and from what I could tell, Japan got them first, which seemingly is borne out as my box shows a Japanese toll free number featured prominently. The shop I bought it from has often had funky and grey market-y products not available here in Taiwan.

Please folks, my main goal here is to find out if there the Rev.xxxx20 does not make contact correctly with the pogo pins whereas the xxxxx30 models do. There must be some reason for this model revision, and perhaps the delay in bringing it to market. If the xxxx20's are defective, lets try get to the bottom of it like we did when folks found the UPC manufacturing codes for the months may have had a correlation to screen lift in the early N7's.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] E15i:
Hmm, it's different than mine , also the JB 4.2 on mine is a sticker, on yours is printed, I will check again later, also from my knowledge, umm the AC adapter has different UPC's depend on the plug adapter, but here we talking only about a dock, so I really don't know what to say.

I also have a dock for GNEX, but there was 2 models, one for GSM, one for fatter CDMA, the only thing I could think about is: \

1. It just different UPC, for different markets, as again, one say "Dock" in french, on the front, other not, also..what model sold on PLAY market?

2. Maybe 0020 did had issues, with internal or external parts, so there a new revision.

3. Maybe just one for 3G, one for WIFI? not that it logical...but umm who knows, I mean, even Nexus 7 has different manufacturer serial, that only say, when it was manufactured.. try to ask ASUS.

PS, if anyone can post side by side 0020 and 0030, it may help.

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Ohh another edit,

See? it also has Japanese number, but it also show specs on 2 languages.

PS. One another reason...that may sound crazy, but: Nexus 7 32GB+3G has more parts, and maybe weights more, so that 0030 maybe has different spring pins to accept it better, but again that would be crazy...
[Nexus 7 Accessories] downwiththebanksters:
Is that photo your box, or mine E1?

The pins on the dock are what move, not the contacts on the N7, so yes my 3G is heaver than wifi, but it still doesn't seat and charge all the time. I just fought with it to get it to start, but I never know if it's charging at full rate unless I go back to it later and see progress. Even then I'm afraid I may disconnect it just by lightly touching the screen.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] E15i:
Umm, but docks exist for many years, would you prefer a something like the Nexus 4 ORB ? I like docks, they look fancy and kind of add some luxury as an accessory on your desk, and also, wireless charging takes more time, one good example is old BB devices, they all had 2 pins on the bottom corners to use with a dock. I myself got the dock, so I would not use the USB port, known to worn out on many devices, not like on Apple..., not that I experienced such thing, I used to work for Sony (formerly Sony Ericsson), and used many of the devices they sold back then, and none of them had any issues with it, just used them with high care. Actually a quote from wiki

The standard connectors were designed to be robust. Because USB is hot-pluggable, the connectors would be used more frequently, and perhaps with less care, than other connectors. Many previous connector designs were fragile, specifying embedded component pins or other delicate parts that were vulnerable to bending or breaking. The electrical contacts in a USB connector are protected by an adjacent plastic tongue, and the entire connecting assembly is usually protected by an enclosing metal sheath.

The connector construction always ensures that the external sheath on the plug makes contact with its counterpart in the receptacle before any of the four connectors within make electrical contact. The external metallic sheath is typically connected to system ground, thus dissipating damaging static charges. This enclosure design also provides a degree of protection from electromagnetic interference to the USB signal while it travels through the mated connector pair (the only location when the otherwise twisted data pair travels in parallel). In addition, because of the required sizes of the power and common connections, they are made after the system ground but before the data connections. This type of staged make-break timing allows for electrically safe hot-swapping.

The newer Micro-USB receptacles are designed for up to 10,000 cycles of insertion and removal between the receptacle and plug, compared to 1,500 for the standard USB and 5,000 for the Mini-USB receptacle. This is accomplished by adding a locking device and by moving the leaf-spring connector from the jack to the plug, so that the most-stressed part is on the cable side of the connection. This change was made so that the connector on the less expensive cable would bear the most wear instead of the more expensive micro-USB device.