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[Transformer TF300T General] sooti:
Upgraded to JB last week and I very much regret it, on its own it runs more or less the same as ICS, much of the new features of JB ASUS has not even put in the JB update and the UI is basicly the same besides the animations which aren't "buttery smooth" as can be, it is ok when used as just a tablet but when using the dock its laggy for me, more so then ICS, when using HDMI its really bad, every few seconds when moving the mouse I get a freeze which is driving me nuts, I get strange artafects on the screen when specific menu styles are opened, and browsing on it with HDMI and mouse and keyboard is a pain! I mean its like using a single core pentium 3 (which would prob work better), I can't use it on my monitor for internet, its so slow, for watching movies its ok all around but on ICS it was much better,

I even did a full wipe of the whole tablet using the ASUS wipe menu on boot which wipes the sdcard as well and it only helped a tiny bit, still pretty laggy and slow though

the biggest most annoying thing that ASUS did was the new bootloader, I understood the risk of unlocking and losing my warrenty and accepted it, so why punish me more by preventing me to downgrade (using signature matching) and preventing me from using other roms not based on stock (although this may be a kernel issue), its so annoying!

I own a galaxy s2 and I must say samsung are much more easy going, never had to unlock the bootloader and I can downgrade or upgrade stock as I please to any version in any region, I hope someone fixes this soon so I can downgrade, no JB for me until ASUS release a decent less buggy version
[Transformer TF300T General] ecb116:
+1000000

How they managed to make it so much worse and annoying beggars belief.

I had a sony ericsson x10 mini pro, a nexus s, a galaxy s2, ive upgraded, rooted, "romed" the s**t out of them. This is by far the worst upgrade ive experienced on a device.

The reason it is so noticeable is because on ICS it was sooooo much better.
[Transformer TF300T General] Nschneider7:
I think there's so many bugs because they released it so soon. I mean seriously is there any non aosp non rom update for any device out yet? With Asus I'm sure they know a lot of bugs are out there and are working on fixes but wanted to be the first brand to throw out jb while devices are still just getting ics. That factor alone probably nets them a good share of the tablet market.
[Transformer TF300T General] Rambytes:
This thread give me a real headache... I will get my TF300 in few days, i know the tablet will have the 4.0.3, and i've use the JB over a short period with the Nexus 7... I really love much more JB over ICS... but it's like JB give random result...

I really don't know what to do when i've receive my tablet: upgrade or not... (headache & scratching my head))
[Transformer TF300T General] nooktablet:
Same situation as mine, i returned my first tf300 due to the bad battery life, now i'm waiting for my second one to arrive, it's been a long wait with amazon free super saving shipping, and this is also the reason why i created this thread, i don't know when i get it should i update or not,

But anyway, as soon as we connect to a wifi network it will start downloading the update and will ask us to update every 5 minutes i believe, so we HAVE TO update, is there a way to stop it?
[Transformer TF300T General] sooti:
Look, on most devices JB is great because you get the new features such as the new task bar, the better transitions, and some other stuff,

I have CM10 running on my galaxy s2 and it runs smooth as hell, much better then ICS was, very happy with it,

on my brother's old 'Xperia X10 mini', I installed CM10 (since sony doesn't do updates for that device since gingerbread), and I am ashamed to say that even his single core, 600MB ram, beta version of CM10, tiny phone, works almost as smooth as my supposed beast quad core, 1GB ram tablet, and he has all the goodies of JB and less bugs then I do on the official stock of ASUS which is supposed to be tested to be for daily use!

my advice, DO NOT UPDATE!

at least till a decent version of it is released without these terrible bugs,

in fact, if your running an unlocked bootloader, i'd go with CM10, I was running it with the old bootloader which didn't block custom roms like ASUS did now. you get all the goodies of JB, without the asus junk, with the option to overclock, in a smooth, almost bugfree rom!

only limit is the pointer (if you have a dock) on cm10 is kinda weird looking, and switching languages doesn't work using control-shift.

if you dont mind those, go for that
[Transformer TF300T General] davidboyd:
I just gave my daughter my 16 Gb TF101 w/keyboard and "upgraded" to a 32GbTF300 yesterday. I found someone selling the 5 week old TF300 w/keyboard for $265 so it was a no brainer. Apparently the sluggishness after the JB upgrade was too much for them to handle so they were willing to take a loss just to get rid of it. I have been running AOSP JB on the dual-core TF101 for about a month and it runs smoother than this quad-core TF300 on JB. Once Asus and our Dev's get thes bugs worked out, I expect this tablet to fly.
[Transformer TF300T General] UndisputedGuy:
I've been contacting Asus about issues but they keep suggesting RMA
[Transformer TF300T General] ecb116:
RMA? But most of the problems are software related not hardware
[Transformer TF300T General] jgaf:
The only issues I have had with the jb update are that the hdmi output doesn't transfer sound on a tv that it used to work, also on hdmi the notification panel gets cut off and finally that the battery charging notification appears every hour or so while charging. Apart from those bugs my tablet is wonderful and it runs better than with ics, games don't crash or freeze anymore buttery smooth. Anyways asus is working on fixing these bugs,they weren't able to tell how soon though, but they seem to be pretty good and fast on delivering updates maybe by the end of the month we will have some fixes.
[Transformer TF300T General] UndisputedGuy:
Exactly!
[Transformer TF300T General] shawt:
I was the same as few people here.In the end I decided update.Now I regret it.Less RAM and no diference to ICS.

Google Now is not good as I thought it will be. But no root and no wipe data and no reebots....yet. 3days.
[Transformer TF300T General] nooktablet:
finally after a long wait my second tf300 came, i haven't turned it on, after unboxing i plugged it in for charging, now it's charging,

when i turn it on, what should i do lol? if i connect to wifi it will start download the JB update, but if i don't turn it on then what can i do with a tablet without wifi?

also i'm "kinda" sure it's not on the latest ICS firmware (.30), maybe .26, so what can i do to update to .30?

some additional info:

i don't have a dock and will never have,

my serial number written on the outside of the box starts with "C6" (does this mean my tablet was manufactured in June?)

it's the white one.
[Transformer TF300T General] vaffanculo403:
You can decide the update...

However, JB had been nothing but solid for me. I use it for all my work emails so I'm on it constantly. Battery life is great too! Here's the proof...
[Transformer TF300T General] Zadeis:
What do you mean? You can try rooting it and use ota root keeper to keep the root when you move to jelly bean. I would do a factory reset after upgrading to jelly bean since in my experience it made much better. Just my 2 cents...
[Transformer TF300T General] n00b1c1d3:
Im getting poor performance with GTA 3 (slow texture loads, 10fps in car), but i may have gotten that through "less-legal" means so i'm not really complaining.
[Transformer TF300T General] nooktablet:
i mean should i update to jelly bean or not? because i don't know will i get the issues like most people here or will i be lucky that i won't have any issues like some people here. and if i don't update to jelly bean, how can i update to the latest firmware version of ICS (.30)?

oh and i think i'll leave it completely stock, the reasons i want to root is block ads and back up apps, for backing up apps i already have asus app backup (pretty useful, i used it), i heard the new firefox version (15) that was just released is better now, and because it has adblock plus so i don't think i need to root anymore :D

but why do some people have problems after jelly bean, and some do not?

what do you mean "less-legal"?

and how do you "measure" fps?

and a off topic question: where can i buy google play gift cards NOW? i want to buy some apps but i don't have a credit card
[Transformer TF300T General] vaffanculo403:
Personally, I'd say go for it. Been great for me but ultimately you are the one who has to decide if you want to the the chance...
[Transformer TF300T General] peanut1596:
Google now cards can be bought at gamestop I know for sure
[Transformer TF300T General] nooktablet:
gamestop is too far away from my house, but there's a radio shack store close to me, i think i'll ask them tomorrow after school, (lol never went to a radio shack store before)

also it's called Google

Play

gift cards, not Google now, google now is a feature in Jelly Bean :D
[Transformer TF300T General] vaffanculo403:
Wow sounds like you want a midget to deliver them to your door on a magic pony our some $hit. Either get a credit/debit card or hitch a ride to have stop. Perhaps check online. Maybe they will ship one to you...
[Transformer TF300T General] peanut1596:
Well excuse the hell outta me. Lol. Google play is what I meant to say. Google now is what I just installed on my s3. That's why it was on my mind. :p
[Transformer TF300T General] faust0230:
I absolutely cannot stand people that think they are l33t because they point out pointless typos that really do not need to be pointed out. Just my two cents but come on, this is what messes threads up (yeah I realize that my post pointing it out also has a negative impact by adding to the ignorance). Anyway, please, even if you are not an adult, try and act like one.

/end semi-rant.

Op related : I just picked one of these beasts up and am about to root, so probably will not ota but go custom. Out of the box, this thing ia killing it, no problems. I am not going to lie, I really want to take the OTA, must fight urge.

I do have a question about some things that were mentioned. Can someone please explain the bootloader issue that has been brought up. Does the included JB bootloader (ota?) block things? Thanks in advance.
[Transformer TF300T General] vaffanculo403:
Asus has a program to unlock the bootloader on their website so taking the OTA should not screw that up on that front. I'm not sure of a toy method had been found for JB yet so you may want to check that out and root beforehand if you need to. Once you unlock the bootloader you void your warranty and there's no going back...
[Transformer TF300T General] faust0230:
Lol, yeah like everything else. Wait do you mean that there is no way to relock and if not, don't you think a dev will figure that out?
[Transformer TF300T General] vap_66:
Your SN is stored in the database of Asus, so even if you relock your bootloader with the official program, they'll still know about it.

Trimis de pe ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T
[Transformer TF300T General] ben3003:
after seeing some issue, should i upgrade my tf300t to JB? Just got a replacement for my tf300t back, after 2 months.. Send RMA for backlight bleeding problem..
[Transformer TF300T General] Grifter357:
I had the same issue with MX Player. I raised the issue in their forums and they suggested I try the 1.7 beta version available at their site. It has a new HW+ decoder mode (probably similar to the non-system HW decoder mode of BS Player). I tried it and it fixed the problem. The video file compatibility is now similar with BS Player.

(Asus Transformer Pad TF300T)

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Hello All,

I bought Madfinger's Shadowgun THD (designed for Tegra 3) version after I OTA updated to JellyBean. Unfortunately, the game stutters and freezes during firefights (which is kinda the point of the game...) When there are bullets whizzing by with all their Tegra 3 effects, framerates drop and the game seizes up and does a stop-and-go routine... Outside of combat, the game seems to be fine (when just moving around...).

Has anybody encountered the same problem or can anyone verify that the game actually worked fine on an ICS TF300T?

Thank you.
[Transformer TF300T General] peanut1596:
Shadowgun works like a champ on my jb tf300
[Transformer TF300T General] thesuzukimethod:
knock on wood, i am having zero issues with JB post update. I was able to return to root using OTA rootkeeper/Superuser.

That said, other than improved smoothness, one of the other main things that JB brings is "google now", which seems more like a phone feature than a tablet feature (unless tablet has mobile data too)....not that there's no use for "now" on a tablet, but i find i use it quite a bit on my phone, and rarely on my tf300
[Transformer TF300T General] peanut1596:
I use my phone as my wifi hotspot and with an extended battery that can last almost all day tethering so my tablet is almost always connected. And I find that I use Google now quite a bit on the tablet as well as my phone.
[Transformer TF300T General] sooti:
I may have found a temporary solution to the laggy preformance of JB and universal SD-CARD read write issues

this is what I did:

1. installed the latest 'Hydro-JB' ROM (which is great I must say, no bloatware) LINK

2. Downloaded SD-Booster from the play store (link)

Installed and set to the maximum cache rate

3. downloaded swapper2 from play store (link)

Set it up (replaces swap with a more optimum version on sd-card)

4. Changed CPU governer to 'preformance' (will take more juice out of your battery!)

Changed other CPU setting from whatever it was to NOOP

5. turned off JB animations and transitions (developer menu)

6. set the CPU preset under ASUS to performance (instead of the default 'balanced')

ran a benchmark test using antutu and get just under the galaxy S3 and over the transformer prime (keep in mind, no overclocking, as there is no ezoverclcok tool for JB yet)

ran sd-card speed test and got 12MB/s with almost no delay during the whole 300MB write and read process, before the tweaks the sd-card test would get about 9.5MB with it pausing to cache every few seconds, this time it only did it for about 1sec maybe twice

browsing using dolphin browser seems much smoother with less lags, in fact the whole browsing the tablet seems much better, shame I had to do all this work to get it to work like it should.

things left to test that had issues:

HDMI out with dock + external keyboard and mouse (this was a major issue before, couldn't move the mouse much without it lagging)

Downloading a file on usenet or some other download tool and trying to multi task while doing it (an issue even in ICS, not sure if this will help or not)

but in closing I recommend everyone to follow the steps above if your having issues with the new stock JB

(note: you must be unlocked and rooted to use it with the Hydro rom, or at least rooted to use the other steps in this post)
[Transformer TF300T General] nooktablet:
Lol

Mine was .26 out of the box, then it automatically started download firmware. 30 and asked me to install. I installed. Of course I was surprised why it is not jelly bean,

After the firmware update to .30, I was curious and went to manually check for update and it downloaded jelly bean firmware , now waiting for me to click install.

OK now I have to make a decision
[Transformer TF300T General] vaffanculo403:
Do it. Mine had been rock solid
[Transformer TF300T General] ecb116:
So I guess both of you don't have problems with the alarm? Is it working properly?

Do you two have the dock? Is it responsive all the time? Do you happen to use two languages on it and if not can you set it up (ASUS KEYBOARD) and try to switch between using CTRL-SPACE (not CTRL-SHIFT)?
[Transformer TF300T General] vaffanculo403:
I don't use any of that do I can't speak to the reliability of those features. I just know that it has been sold as hell as a tablet. I use it 10 hours a day for work. Mostly emails off an encrypted exchange server through an app called Good, Web browsing, and streaming SiriusXM.

BTW I'm also at over 131 hours of uptime on my device so obviously random reboots are not an issue. That last time I had to reboot was because of an app that got corrupted while installing an up date (the Good app. It's such a piece of ****) and the tech support at my company made me. If it wasn't for that it would be probably close to two weeks since I rebooted...
[Transformer TF300T General] Rambytes:
Me too, i'm supposing to receive my tablet today... i'm scratching my head to "what to do" if the tablet start downloading JB...

Give me some feedback please if you decide to install JB.
[Transformer TF300T General] k1chy:
I have the dock with stock JB rooted on the tab.

Have no problems with alarms so far, though most of the times my alarm is in my phone.

The dock is responsive and they have changed the side scrolling behaviour from old Asus way to more in the lines of laptops :)

Will try other languages once I reach home in the evening and post the results.
[Transformer TF300T General] thesuzukimethod:
I will check the alarms. Dock is solid (haven't noticed anything, i guess..at the risk of falling to the power of suggestion :) , what am i looking for?)...with dock, i have a wireless mouse plugged in 95% of the time, so if the issue is trackpad, i might not catch it...i will check that too...curiosity and the cat and all that.
[Transformer TF300T General] k1chy:
Checked the alarms, it works fine. Tried over a span of 2 hours all 5 of the alarms i have scheduled worked.

Dock works fine, with wireless mouse, PS3 controller etc.

Track pad also functioning correctly, no issues as well.

Changing the language in the keyboard (With dock plugged in) works fine, though could not whether the keys which are to be registered are registered (cuz i tested two English keyboards).

Only bug that happens is the green solid picture generated by camera randomly while taking pictures (not a big deal though).
[Transformer TF300T General] thesuzukimethod:
same (no problems with alarms, dock, trackpad, etc). Didnt check the language/keyboard thing.

to make sure we dont have any confounding variables (I didnt say before, but) I'm on stock (duh, right?), rooted, jelly bean, with minimal "bloat"ware frozen/disabled - or uninstalled if possible through settings interface (i dont think i actually deleted any APKs)

/This\ probably doesnt help diagnose anything, but it makes me wonder if it's the update, or something that is not jellybean friendly that was already on the tablet. (random app, etc) (e.g. Presto/Beyond Pod crashes on my G-Nexus about 1x/3-4 days. I thought it was ROM-stability issue, but it seems to be Presto post-ICS...happens infrequently enough i had a hard time narrowing it down, but enough to make me wonder)
[Transformer TF300T General] tritran18518:
so when you two checked your alarm, did you guys let screen off or on ? Mine works fine as long as screen is on. but when setting alarm with screen off, it doesn't work.
[Transformer TF300T General] ecb116:
Thanks for all the feedback

I am also completely stock, locked, just rooted

No problem with the pad or the usb nor random reboots (never had them)

Like other have stated while browsing most noticeable on chrome, sometimes while i try to type on the address bar it gets stuck, or i cant backspace to delete.

One time it completely froze the dock and could not type at all (again on chrome) when i selected another browser, boom everything was fine.

But my main problem is with the language switch

On ICS i was using the ASUS Greek keyboard in order to be able to change from English to Greek and vice versa by pressing CTRL-SPACE on my Dock (CTRL-SWIFT works fine but is not efficient)

After the JB upgrade this does not work at all

when i press CTRL-SPACE it indicates that i changed from Greek to English but i type again in Greek. I was only rooted before the upgrade which i restored via voodoo.
[Transformer TF300T General] UndisputedGuy:
My alarm is bugged as well
[Transformer TF300T General] funnel71:
Screen off has been a mixed bag for me, sometimes works, sometimes not. Definitely not reliable.
[Transformer TF300T General] plefebvr:
"Sleep of death" issues here as well. :eek:
[Transformer TF300T General] thesuzukimethod:
Bug is replicable on my end. Tried it 3x. First time cut off the alarm (but turned on the screen and the snooze/dismiss pop up was there), second time, alarm worked fine (but screen didnt turn on), 3rd time (same as the first)....suffice to say, behavior is inconsistent (i also use a PIN accessed lockscreen, which might be partly to blame for the wonky wake up, but not the alarm cutting off) (confirmed, the PIN lock screen interferes with the snooze/dismiss pop up)

This is not the first place I've heard complaints of Chrome being less than ideal (in terms of performance). I switched to DolphinHD before the update to JB as i was dissatisfied with Chrome's performance under ICS too. FWIW. the short version of the explanation that i was given, is that chrome is still beta (technically) and has a bit of generational/iterative work to do to catch up with the (relative) stability of the stock android browser. I really like Chrome for the Google Account sync, but the performance was a little lacking, imho.

I have SetCPU on my tf300, and the slowest frequency in the stock kernel is 51MHz(!) (my phone runs in the 200s minimum), so i wonder if the ultra low frequency on rest/screen-off/sleep (interactive governor with noop scheduler) has something to do with that....testing......

tested it 5x (crap for sample size, but i have work to do, haha) - and 4 times, the alarm woke up the tablet successfully, 1x it did the 1/2 second alarm and cut off sound (but the snooze/dismiss popup was in the notifications bar). (this was with the minimum frequency between 200ish and 400ish MHz). so even with the min-freq jacked up, it still messed up, but was better, maybe(?). I will probably tweak the governor settings as well, as now i'm curious, but that will have to wait a bit.

Obviously there are some issues here, but I wonder if some of them might be kernel related (which would help explain why some custom ROM users are having zero problems)

I can handle a few quirks, but an alarm that isnt 100% is unacceptable. Not ready to lay the blame on the JB update yet (i never ran the same tests under ICS), but hopefully this is just a growing pain that is fixed in the next update. If not for warranty, i'd just unlock and try different kernels, but for now, i want that safety net.

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ok - because i cant help myself, i turned off the lockscreen (set to none, instead of PIN or anything else), and the alarm wakes the tablet, turns the screen on, and pops up the snooze/dismiss dialogue every time (so far, small sample size).

i take back my comment about kernels...seems to be some sort of friction between the alarm/wake routine and the lockscreen routine. at least till one of you who is also having the issue chimes in that you have no security settings either, and it still doesnt work... heh heh.
[Transformer TF300T General] bharvey23:
ive had issues with play magazines. for some reason or another in portrait mode, what would be the right side of the magazine comes up as a blank black screen. anyone else encounter this?
[Transformer TF300T General] ctibor:
I have the same issue with alarm, reported by many folks.

Plus the MyLibrary app does not work, after hard reset either.

Plus some kind of streaming video does not work, e.g. I cannot use SPB TV that I could on ICS.

Stock WW JB firmware, no bootloader unlock, no root (so far).

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