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[General Questions and Answers] jonny68:
Apple are pathetic and i had a feeling they (would pay the judges off) win this case, mind you even though 1 billion is a serious amount of money to most to Samsung it's a drop in the ocean and if anything they will come out of this better as the hype surrounding their new flagship phone to replace the Galaxy S3 most probably next year will be huge and ive a feeling it will be a masterpiece.
[General Questions and Answers] Amrut223:
Surely enough is enough! I cannot believe how corrupt the US Courts are.
[General Questions and Answers] Szadzik:
It is not the court, but started in patent office that allowed all those bull**** patents to be registered and them the jury that has no idea about patents and yet decides about their validity.
[General Questions and Answers] voodoochild2008:
Its been said already but look at a few facts.

America vs Korea

Case held in America, Held in California which is Apples home state....and the 12 random people? well at a guess its their home state=not a chance in hell.

There is a interview with one of the 12 and he even shows how fake it all was, he says that within the first day they all agreed that Apple was in the right, and yet a few lines later he says that they took the full amount of time given to look at the evidence and come to a decision=eh? you just said it was agreed on the 1st day?

Funny how over in Korea the case was 50/50 both pay up and both behave....state side Samsung please bend over while we shaft up.
[General Questions and Answers] LokiDemi:
Guys accept it! We lose the battle, we don't have any creativity, we are copying instead of innovating. Now is the time to say that I really regret buying this phone. Well I got an Xperia S so I'm still happy :)
[General Questions and Answers] Arsaw:
Sony is not innovating either :rolleyes:
[General Questions and Answers] bala_gamer:
accept what? apple will sue sony one day for the very same multi touch patent and then you will how poor it is ;)

anyway this topic is nowhere related to s3....
[General Questions and Answers] LokiDemi:
You're wrong kid, in fact Google is experimenting Xperia S for AOSP. Read the news. Sony is "Quiet but Deadly"!
[General Questions and Answers] Arsaw:
You called that innovating? :confused:
[General Questions and Answers] LokiDemi:
No, Sony will not be sued by apple for the very same multi touch patent, it's an Android feature. Google will be sued, this means all android 2.2 and up will be affected.
[General Questions and Answers] bala_gamer:
Then tell me why it didn't happen? Though its android feature with the likes of company like apple you don't have any surety for net getting sued.

《tapatalked from galaxy s3》
[General Questions and Answers] LokiDemi:
Just watch and see kid. Just watch and see :D

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Because Sony designed the iphones ;)
[General Questions and Answers] delsus:
What's next for Samsung? I know consorting with chip manufacturers stopping giving chips to Apple, iPhone fails and Samsung stops selling phones in America.

Then Apple has personally screwed all Americans over and they will call for blood and Apple dies.

I think that's reasonable.
[General Questions and Answers] aydc:
What's next for Samsung? I hope finally a phone without a physical home button. They'll presumably stop copying iPhone after this, so there'll be no reason for that button.
[General Questions and Answers] voodoochild2008:
Yeah wonder how long the deal is with them to sell them chips, just wonder if they will pass when deal runs out.

I dont think the US knows just how fu%&ed they will be if Android phones were pulled from their shops.

But I guess the deal is worth a load of money as around 30% of the iphone4s was made by Samsung.

After all this I would think Apple are not well liked in Asia now?

I know it will not happen but I would love to see Samsung bring out a big leap in tech for their phones and not be sold in US, might wake people up to what they are missing.

As for Sony, they will do their thing, they have some nice looking phones but they always seem like a year behind most others.
[General Questions and Answers] barondebxl:
@OP ( didn't wanna quote your whole post), first, ps3 and Xbox360 are fine, I think next year is when they should introduce the new generation. Second, Samsung will be just fine. They already have hardware power for decades, they just need to work on their designs. I'm sure they will innovate and do very well, they are just getting started. It sucks but it's normal that Apple is coming this hard at Samsung cause Sammy is really a threat to Apple. This whole patent thing is bogus and gives too much power to Apple and no room to innovate for the other OEMs. This is why I don't respect Apple, they don't want any competition they just want to monopolize everything. Google and it's partners need to take some sort of action against Apple to prevent things like that dumb trial from happening.
[General Questions and Answers] voodoochild2008:
Xbox and Ps have been around too long.

The tech was due to change around 5 years in their life. the xbox was out like very late 2005, so by time new one is out that like around a 7 years.

I remember there was a interview with a guy who works for Rockstar (was like a year or two ago) he said the next GTA (GTA5) would be on the new machines, even they did not think these old things would still be around.

The tech for pc is sitting waiting to go, had these been the old days were the pc market had games just for pc, we would see a huge difference in pc games and xbox/ps, as it is they are all ports now so there is no need for a crazy high end machine when all you get is a tweaked console port.

Remember years ago you needed to change bits in a pc every year just to keep up, I used to spend loads every year and yet now its not like that because there is no need.

There has been loads of interviews where game designers say they had issues making games due to the limitations of the machines.

Its like a artist coming up to you and saying "hey I have a great idea for a picture, its going to look amazing, it will be huge and breath taking" and you saying "oh sounds great, here is a crayon, go get started"

We as customers are getting the short end of the stick, we are paying the same prices for games that now use each others engines (already made so no time or cost) I am sick of seeing the same graphic effects in games simply because there is no way around it.

If I remember right COD2 is running on the Quake 3 engine from 1999.

But again its down to use buying the old machines, why spend millions on new tech/new advertising/making less money on new machines due to build costs when we keep spending millions on the old stuff, its only when the sales start to dry up that they start saying there is a new machine on the way.
[General Questions and Answers] krishansubudhi:
Apple sued samsung because its stealing its market. Whn sony will be dangerous for them, then it will sue sony also. Android is an opensource os. Google doesnt take any money for it. Its the end sellers who get the profit. Google gets its shares from the android market. I personally love my s3. Inspite of the loss, samsung is beating the hell out of apple outside the court room.
[General Questions and Answers] spaco22:
apple are not pathetic, they are intelligent. thats why they are the most valuable company

And to add to the OP bul****,

The real winner is SAMSUNG

Yh the real winner is samsung. this is because $1billion is not a lot to pay to become the no2 phone seller in the world.

believe it or not NOKIA, RIM and other failing manufactures would have easily paid a $1billion to copy apple and be what samsung it is today.

now samsung has the market, they build s3 which isnt copying apple, they actually used their brains and the really winner is the Koreans.
[General Questions and Answers] Amrut223:
No they are pathetic. They steal designs then sue others for looking similar.
[General Questions and Answers] ByzLat:
No sony does innovate, a lot at that.

The Vaio Z is the only ultrabook which has anything ultra about it. The Xperia phones are pretty good and have nice design and software which i think is the only place samsung goes wrong, the software.
[General Questions and Answers] spaco22:
no they buy designs, thats bureacratic part of buisness, thats why steve jobs is a genuis. what planet are you from
[General Questions and Answers] antman68:
Exactly! The US Patent Office has been granting patents to things that should not be patentable for decades, leaving it to the courts to strike them down. Then the US court system allows lay juries to decide on matters of law and not fact. What other country in the world allows juries to decide on these sorts of matters? It's not criminal law where guilt should be decided by a jury of the accused's peers. If that were the case, the jury would be made up of Microsoft, Sony, Nokia, etc., not lay people - they are not Apple's or Samsung's peers, nor do they understand patent law.

One can only hope that things will be sorted out after Samsung appeals (as it, inevitably, will) and properly (legally) trained judges get to make the decisions instead of average Joes hand-picked from Apple's back yard.
[General Questions and Answers] ByzLat:
Did Apple buy the Macbook Airs design from Sony? Did they buy the iPhones design from LG or whoever they copied that from?
[General Questions and Answers] Arsaw:
I am referring to smartphones industry, not notebook/laptop.

I never said Xperia sucks. Is a good device but still far from innovating.
[General Questions and Answers] voodoochild2008:
steve jobs is a genius? I knew he was still alive :)

Dont get me wrong he was a very clever guy and the iphone really got the ball rolling, but after the first phone it all started to go very slow, tiny upgrades to phones while others pushed for higher spec.

They got lazy, they just sat back and built the hype, just watch the vids online of how many times he and others would say amazing/ground breaking/stunning/and soooooooooooooo on, its a selling trick, say it enough and people will buy into it.
[General Questions and Answers] LokiDemi:
Sony designed iPhones and iPads
[General Questions and Answers] nicastro78:
Just because Apple won, doesn't mean Samsung can't make phones. It only means that Samsung and other manufactures will have to pay licensing fees for those patents owned by Apple.
[General Questions and Answers] lude219:
Lets be real here, Sony has really kept their mobile hardware and software design unique. sure, Sony loves gigantic bezels and using last gen/mid-range tech (which ultimately was a turn off for most users), but they didn't succumb to the losing market share by copying off of apple.

Even though $1B might not be much to Samsung, it'll still sting a bit and hopefully they can hire a few designers from Sony to make their phones unique. all I ever wanted was Sony design + Samsung hardware, and that would be the phone to make apple cry.
[General Questions and Answers] dave6018:
With the extra patent costs that Samsung will incur won't really affect consumers as they will just bang the price onto the components they sell apple!! The ruling only applies to America!!!
[General Questions and Answers] Skander1998:
Quote from bala:

~ Maturity is Not When We Start Speaking Big Things....But Actually It Is, When We Start Understanding Small Things...~

You need to work on that.
[General Questions and Answers] voodoochild2008:
QUIZZ TIME

Look below and see if you can spot the wtf one out.

COURTS

Korea=both in the wrong, both pay up

UK=Samsung did not copy.

America=Samsung pay Apple 1 billion$
[General Questions and Answers] voodoochild2008:
Think I saw another guy post this but watch this from 4.45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-dqUuvLk4

he gets it all spot on.
[General Questions and Answers] ultramag69:
Either way if samsung takes a hit or not it can only mean a good thing for us consumers...

If samsung take offence at paying apple for the right to use "their" patents then they will eventually pull something out that will blow apple out of the water and the smartphone race once and for all.

apple using all samsungs screen and other parts in their phones could come a real cropper too if samsung decides its not in their best interests to provide them with their tech, not likely to happen but you gotta admit that if you were samsung, apple'd be getting your old crappy tech and you would have the state of the art stuff only in your equipment. I don't think a court can tell you who you have to sell to.

I know there may be some blowback too from googles android software but again it makes google improve on their software so as not to have to pay apple.

I agree that it stinks that a shape can be patented, who wants a new circular tablet, next thing you know apple will be suing the publishing industry as books are rectangular too... Thats like ford or holden patenting the shape of a car and charging all other car manufacturers for the right to use that shape...Whats next, is apple going to come at samsung because their tv's are rectanguar like the apple tv? Some really dense people there on that jury... Wonder what phones they used and if they now have a brand spanking new iphone?
[General Questions and Answers] Szadzik:
Better yet, Apple was allowed to register a patent for 5D, even though there is no proof it even exists.
[General Questions and Answers] Boldizzle:
Samsung Captivate had no physical home button.

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Hate to break it to you, but he ain't a genius anymore.
[General Questions and Answers] Tomatoes8:
LG is already trying this approach. Probably won't work for them and the timing, early 2013, is all wrong like RIMs timing, but Samsung might be able to pull it off.

This LG phone is apparently a collaboration between three of their leading divisions.

http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/08/26/l...in-have-a-long-battery-life-1280x768-display/
[General Questions and Answers] neo6776:
Oh dear God!

I've seen some fools in my time here but this takes the prize! Hahaha!
[General Questions and Answers] Tomatoes8:
It has probably been said already but Google can't be sued for Android. It is open source so whoever uses it gets sued and not Google.

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That theory would be nice if there was a shred of proof that Samsung got where they are today by copying Apple. Being inspired by Apple for one phone and some marketing tips should be free, not anywhere near 1 billion dollars. That is like paying a marketing firm 1 billion dollars, you can do better.

The Sony move was inspired by the Nintendo Wii and they don't have to pay a dime for it, and that is the way it has always been. Samsung got screwed out of 1 billion dollars by a retarded jury, plain and simple.

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Apple doesn't intend to license them.
[General Questions and Answers] jonny68:
I'll correct you there, their marketing directors are intelligent, in fact Apples marketing are probably the best in the business, they mass marketed a product that any noob can use and it works and people feel special because they have this smartphone that does all these "special things" that their previous phone most probably didn't, they seen a market for this and capatilized on it and sold millions of iPhones to people most of whom wouldn't have the first clue about technology so for that you have to (grudgingly) give them respect!

Apple thought they were gonna rule the roost for ever but they never realized Android would not only rival them but eclipse them, i don't believe for one minute Samsung ever copied Apple there are major differences between the phones, Samsung though will continue to innovate and will eventually overtake Apple in the smartphone market, they are not that far behind by all accounts and Android as we know has overtaken Apple and shows no sign of stopping, i cannot give any credit or respect to a company like Apple who are closed and not open source and that is why i would never but any Apple product no matter how good the fanboys might say it is, i still have 1 or 2 people i know who think their iphone 4S is the best thing ever, when i challenge them to explain how they think their phone might be better than the Galaxy S3 they spout some nonsensical rubbish without presenting any facts as they are unable to...typical iPhone user!!
[General Questions and Answers] DocRambone:
Some fun stuff here: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012082510525390
[General Questions and Answers] voodoochild2008:
Yeah sounds about right.

It was one of the 12 that said they knew on the first day Samsung was guilty, and then a few seconds later he said that they took the full time to go over the facts before the verdict.
[General Questions and Answers] nodstuff:
Very interesting indeed.

Doesn't look good for Apple's "victory" here, jurors ignoring prior art, telling conflicting stories, not following jury instructions etc.

This could very well be thrown out.

Samsung have a REALLY good chance of getting this overturned.
[General Questions and Answers] voodoochild2008:
You know who is really to blame? Bill Gates, why did he not crush Apple beyond repair all those years ago :)
[General Questions and Answers] voodoochild2008:
Also not sure why Samsung did not go in with a huge video screen and play this video....job done case closed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhwzivw7ols
[General Questions and Answers] Pyrolectic13:
So much talk over these numerous and constant patent wars.

In my opinion, and just my opinion both Apple and Samsung are laughing all the way to the banks either way because who needs better advertising than the whole world talking about your product. Though the buzz may be around patent wars, the devices are coming out, being a success and the fans will always stand by their brands, another reason the whole patent war is great for all companies involved.

I'm sure the billion Samsung paid out was made back the day after the very first public court hearing so why would they care. The courts are the new advertising media.

Look at Nokia going after RIM. they're getting ready to die so they try and jump into the courts to, in a sense, get free advertising and generate interest. Just a theory, and probably not the case but an example of what I mean.

Either way both Apple and Samsung execs at the top earning the big bucks couldn't give 2 craps about patent drama. It's all free advertising and a way to create brand loyalty.

Just my 2 cents.
[General Questions and Answers] voodoochild2008:
Well it would be better if the pair of them just did this to get the matter sorted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7sra7gQBP4&feature=related
[General Questions and Answers] Pyrolectic13:
HAHAHA. great series and a BIG +1
[General Questions and Answers] MattBooth:
What's next? Appeal.

Also, the Juror's didn't even follow their instructions correctly. They've fined them $1bn to punish them, whereas it's only supposed to be for royalties owed.

Apple haven't won.
[General Questions and Answers] rovex:
Remember this case only applies to the US, its irrelevant to any other market until similar cases are brought and won. We already know Apple got nowhere in the UK.

I suspect US Samsung devices will be somewhat crippled, but it wont effect international devices. Given that the US market is weird already to most of us it wont have much effect. In the UK and Europe we dont have a myriad of carrier modified devices, so we will continue to get the best Samsung has to offer. If in the process of modifying the US models they develop something better that isnt covered by one of Apples opportunistic and ridiculous patents then we will get that as well.

Apple has far from won this. Most social media trackers are reporting that its Apple that is getting the most negative responses over this, they are being seen as evil and petty.
[General Questions and Answers] Theshawty:
Apple knows they have don't have much to offer. They have what, 3 popular phones today (iPhone 3GS, 4 and 4S), a few pods and three pads and that's it. Banning their top sellers, if possible, would cripple them a bit. Android phone makers have thousands of phones out there, many of which are top sellers without having the latest technology as a low price appeals to more people, I bet.

Apple got their ass kicked in the UK and Germany, and quite possibly Korea (Samsung's country) too and the rest of the countries are just waiting to kick some half-rotten shrivel of an Apple.
[General Questions and Answers] dave6018:
Just took my Samsung phone into the apple store so they can help me set it up and I have been advised that it's not a apple phone!! I advised them it's not what the rest of apple and a American jury think!!
[General Questions and Answers] pplu18207332:
what i want is looking and listening
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Weapondrift:
you guys are FAR more advanced then I, but i wanted to know if there's a way to edit the "ripple" when you touch the lockscreen on JB to maybe have the four corners "ripple" out the nexus colors? (Red/yellow/blue/green) or maybe even make it ripple out a certain effect like a targeting system? Im just brainstorming at the moment and have a ton more ideas but what do you all think and if so where/who do I need to talk to about this?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Weapondrift:
Noone? Really?!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] squish099:
The person to talk to is probably djdarkknight.. He has a thread over at rootz about modifying your frameworkres.. Idk about the four different colors, I just wanted mine all holo blue.. Still working on getting it to compile without errors..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Weapondrift:
thank you. Im sorry if I sound like an ass. I just didnt want this thread to end up like the old XDA (vacant)
[General Questions and Answers] Coliba:
Hi

Im looking for a launcher for my Galaxy S2 that runs Jelly Bean.

Im new to this so does anyone have any ideas and can guide me through the installation ??
[General Questions and Answers] repair_man:
Hi

I've got the same phone as you do, running a JB ROM and I use the APEX-launcher. I tried several launcher but this one simply rocks :laugh:

Take a look here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anddoes.launcher&hl=sv

If you want to install and run this launcher simply download it from Market and run it. When it starts you will see a menu with the option to choose which launcher you want to run.
[General Questions and Answers] Francoiky:
You should try Nova Launcher (JB Beta) too.
[General Questions and Answers] TekGadgt:
I am also using Nova Launcher on a phone running a JB ROM. It works great.
[Transformer TF300T General] eye69:
Hi,

I've a TF300 WW that I rooted using debugfs while still on ICS. Used voodoo OTA rootkeeper to regain root after the JB update, which worked fine. I haven't installed CWM recovery on it. Now I want to do a complete wipe to try and speed this thing up, since it's still slow as hell IMO. Web browsing is painful...

Is there a way to wipe it without losing root?
[Transformer TF300T General] David Dee:
My root stuck after a factory reset on ics. Don't see why that would be different on JB.
[Transformer TF300T General] funnel71:
It's different because jb updated folder permissions which allowed the exploit to work on ICS. There is a chance you will lose root if you wipe on jb. You can get it back, but for now, the only means to get it back involves unlocking the bootloader.
[Transformer TF300T General] jubbleys:
i have updated and been able too restore root after a data wipe I am on WW
[Transformer TF300T General] Avicularia69:
How did you that ?
[Transformer TF300T General] funnel71:
For me I had to use step 3 of this guide. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=30516010
[Transformer TF300T General] eye69:
Does that allow you to get updates after using that procedure though?