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[Nexus 7 General] vSword4s:
Nexus 7 is a better choice.
[Nexus 7 General] John-Galt:
micro-SD card slot - yes!

There is an undocumented micro-SD card slot hidden under the speaker/camera cover on the back. Mounts as /mnt/sdcard2. I've created folders and copied files to it while the tablet is connected to a PC, no problem.
[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
The fact it's Lenovo made (and this is strictly talking from working in an environment with a few thousand Lenovo systems) is all the more reason I'd purchase it. Absolutely fantastic support.

Likewise, the Nexus 7 is ASUS-made. Being a long time ASUS fan, this was a reason for me to purchase it. With having recent ASUS-caused warranty headaches (screen cracked without dropping/sitting on it, yet ASUS doesn't seem to care that it was clearly defective), it's definitely some food for thought that the Lenovo tablet (speaking from a support standpoint should it ever come about) could alone be a severe +1.

I still love the Nexus 7, and really would have a hard time getting swayed to another device. Still, nice seeing a very worthy competitor out there. :good:
[Nexus 7 General] attunezero:
Just picked up an A2109 from BB. Frustrating how little information there is published about it and how easily it is confused with the S2109. The A2109 DOES have a microSD card slot -- it is beneath the (very difficult to remove) cover for the speakers and camera. Why they did not document this at all is beyond me... I almost did not buy it because not having microsd was a deal breaker until I discovered it on my own.

As for the rest of the tablet:

The case is solid, nice looking, and comfortable to hold. The 9" size means my thumbs can reach the middle of the screen in landscape mode where they cannot on most 10" tabs. The features are good:

Tegra 3

16GB internal storage

Micro SD slot

Wifi

Bluetooth

GPS

Front / Rear cameras

Accelerometer

Micro HDMI

Charges though micro USB

ICS

The only thing that makes this tablet not "great" is the screen. It is a 1280x800 plain old LCD. It is not bad, but I would call it "OK" or "acceptable". Looks fine when viewed straight on (which is most of the time when using it) but gets washed out or dark when tilted too much. Brightness is just "OK" too -- usable in bright light but not as good as more expensive stuff.

I am enjoying it and I think that it is a great deal for a solid tegra3 tab at $299 if you are not bothered by the screen. Worth going to BB to play with one. :good:
[Nexus 7 General] zorbakun:
anyone here owned a Motorola xoom before and care to compare between its screens and the lenovo's. Also on a rank of 10 how much would the lenovo's screen compare to N7?
[Nexus 7 General] aniym:
I'm considering this tab as well due to the low launch price. About the microSD card, Lenovo's communication strategy is terrible. For instance, this Youtube from Lenovo's official account doesn't mention the card slot in the video itself, but mentions it in the video description, which almost no one reads!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFJ9XzCXdtw

All in all, I have to say they really botched the launch of this product, which is strange because I feel a lot of people would be interested in getting something bigger than the N7 w/ Tegra 3 but without paying $500.
[Nexus 7 General] e.mote:
Actually, the video does show the SD card holder at the 0:24 mark.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eFJ9XzCXdtw&t=24

Keep in mind that A2109's official launch is Sept. It's just been officially announced at IFA. There is yet no specs listed on the Lenovo site. There are yet no reviews. The retailers jumped the gun in offering it early.

Regardless, there won't be much marketing for this and other "value" tablets (eg Acer A210). I don't expect high visibility for it.

While it's already at a low price, I expect it to be marked down to $250 in the coming weeks. Value items never sell at list for long. Look for sales on the Lenovo site.

Revisiting the "versus N7" comparison: There are pluses and minuses, but overall the A2109 has the better bang/buck over the N7, even at the list $300 price. The biggest minus is the TN LCD panel with smaller viewing angles and worse fidelity. But IMO it's more than offset by the larger size, HDMI, and SD expansion. At $250, both this and the upcoming Acer A210 will be good stocking stuffers. I give the A210 the edge for its full USB port and dedicated charging port.
[Nexus 7 General] blackhand1001:
The tn panel is a complete deal breaker on any tablet. View angles are very important on tablets. I've seen the panel in person, its unacceptable at this price point.

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Screen on the Xoom is much better. Nexus 7's screen is better than both. The screen on the lenovo is unacceptable IMO. Tablets need either a VA or an IPS/ PLS panel. TN is unacceptable.
[Nexus 7 General] e.mote:
>The tn panel is a complete deal breaker on any tablet.

For readily discernible specs like TN/IPS or Gorilla, a hands-on is preferable, rather than dismissing it out of hand. From the various videos and early buyers, A2109's LCD obviously isn't the best, but it's not terrible either. Keep in mind the price range involved.

>View angles are very important on tablets.

Not when it's held in hand, as you automatically adjust to optimal viewing angle. Anyway, it's evident TN tech has improved, as I don't see solarizing as an issue in the videos even at wide angles. Technology changes, and best to judge firsthand rather to rely on preconceived notions.
[Nexus 7 General] blackhand1001:
I've seen the tablet in person at best buy. Its unacceptable when there at plenty of other tablets in the price range with good view angles.
[Nexus 7 General] e.mote:
>I've seen the tablet in person at best buy. Its unacceptable when there at plenty of other tablets in the price range with good view angles.

There is no other 9/10" tabs in the $300 range, with Teg3 and 16GB.

Current "value" tabs still list for $400, and most have OMAP4430. The TF300 has Teg3, but has no USB port unless you also spring for the $150 dock. Acer A200 is cheap, but is a Teg2.

The Lenovo A series is the first 9/10" to hit $300 list. It'll have competition from Acer A210, but that's about it. As for what's unacceptable, it's relative. To me, the A2109 looks good enough. That's the operative phrase when dealing with value toys.
[Nexus 7 General] aniym:
I agree. I looked at the specs of the Acer A210 (which may not be official) and its weight is 712g, which is on the heavy side for 10.1" tablets. The IdeaTab A2109 is 570g, which IMO is much lighter and more manageable. I had a Touchpad before and always felt that it was too heavy for its size. I will wait for reviews of the A2109, but am already strongly leaning towards it as long as battery life is at least 8 hours, as Lenovo is advertising (with tablets, sometimes actual life>advertised life, as I saw on some Engadget reviews). With regards to the screen, I have an adjustable tablet stand and when held in hand, I would automatically adjust the angle to get the best viewing. Still, I'm big on PDF reading, particularly magazines so an N7 is just too small, despite the great price. I have a Nook Color, so I know the limitations of reading PDFs on a device with that kind of viewing area.

There are other variables to consider though. N7 is obviously XDA-friendly in terms of openness and modding, and while Lenovo generally doesn't add much bloat to its tabs (at least based on what I read of the S2109), if there isn't much of a development community, perhaps I'll wait for the 10" Kindle, which will probably also be running Tegra 3 and is rootable/CM ready.
[Nexus 7 General] e.mote:
>Acer A210 (which may not be official) and its weight is 712g, which is on the heavy side for 10.1" tablets. The IdeaTab A2109 is 570g, which IMO is much lighter and more manageable.

Weight is a consideration for "stand-up" uses. IMO it's more important for small tabs than for larger tabs, as the latter favor "sit-down" uses, where availability of a supporting surface (desk/lap) obviates the weight issue.

BTW, there is a variety of holding aids to mitigate hand-fatigue.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-New-App...-360-Rotating-Tablet-Hand-Strap-/160768972324

>Still, I'm big on PDF reading, particularly magazines so an N7 is just too small, despite the great price.

I agree. While 7" is more portable, in-home uses favor the larger screen for better legibility and greater versatility. Especially for older users.

Re: Community support - For normal uses like web browsing, apps, social, reading, etc, custom ROM isn't needed. Dev support shouldn't be a major consideration, as it restricts your choices. If one were to live by the "Nexus only" mantra, the only choice now is a 7" with limited functionality.

That said, it'd be nice to have 3rd-party firmware support for when vendor support tapers off. I would certainly like to see CM become a legit 3rd-party FW source. If Google were interested in better Android support as an ecosystem, it should provide more resources to CM for this to happen.

From latest rumors, KF 10" won't happen this year. Reportedly we'll see a new 7" with 1280x800 on par w/ N7, and a refreshed original KF (likely ad-supported for a $150 price).
[Nexus 7 General] aniym:
Weight is an issue for me, as I spend a lot of time on public transport (standing) and prefer to not spend it idly. Thanks for the link with the tablet grippy thing, I'll check it out. With regards to CM and modding, I've yet to own a Nexus device. Generally HTC, LG, Samsung devices have some degree of rootability, at least with phones (some more than others). I also don't think Google has much control over encouraging modding because the decision to lock bootloaders and provide hardware component drivers is up to the OEMs. Still, nice to see that after a pretty hit-or-miss 2011 in Android tabs, there are promising products on the horizon.

On the other hand, if HP can pull it off, I'll get their Envy X2. Full x64 Windows 8 in a $749 tablet + dock package, with supposedly 8 hours of battery on the new Cedar Trail Atom chips. On second thought, that's probably asking too much for a Gen 1 product. A $299 (or $249 by Christmas) tablet may be just the ticket for another year.
[Nexus 7 General] pharpe:
After owning Nexus and non Nexus devices I will always choose the Nexus line. The dev community is what makes Android great. I can't imagine still running ICS much less GB. Locked boot loader? Forget it.
[Nexus 7 General] John-Galt:
Photo-review of disassembled Lenovo A2109

http://chinatablets.info/?p=1469&lang=en
[Nexus 7 General] e.mote:
>if HP can pull it off, I'll get their Envy X2. Full x64 Windows 8 in a $749 tablet + dock package, with supposedly 8 hours of battery on the new Cedar Trail Atom chips.

The Envy X2 likely has a Core CPU, being HP's "power gaming" line. It's likely over $1K. Cedar Trail will be in the "value" entries.

The trend out of IFA is mostly Win8 hybrids and few "naked" tablets. Windows still needs a keyboard. That, and naked Win8 tabs can't compete against iPad, with no Metro software to speak of.

If what Lenovo said about $600-700 Cedar Trail hybrids is true, I can't see them doing well. Too many negs: Windows' jarring transition, not price competitive against existing laptops or against iPad, and no Metro software. Similar to what happened to Android tabs in 2011, I see a lot of fire sales after the new year.

One indicator worth watching is whether users will warm to the hybrid form factor. Asus TF line hasn't had much success thus far.

>I will always choose the Nexus line. The dev community is what makes Android great.

This isn't a good thing. It implies that OEMs aren't adding value to the ecosystem, and are a drag rather than an asset. This in turn implies that Android's greatest strength--diversity--is a non-factor, and Google now has to do all the heavy-lifting on its own.

At this point, that's more or less true. The litmus test is in developer support. We'll see if N7's popularity will bring an uptick in tablet apps, or if devs will again pass Android by with iPad Mini and Windows in the fray.

I like the way the Chinese test for tablet strength.
[Nexus 7 General] John-Galt:
A2109 Info Thread on Lenovo forums

I've started an A2109 info thread on the Lenovo forums:

http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaPad-IdeaTab-Slate-Tablets/A2109-Info-Thread/td-p/852287

Links to the User Guide & Hardware Maintenance Manual are there...
[Nexus 7 General] aniym:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W33wCOycRcQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Here's a video showing the device at an expo. According to the spokesperson, who seems pretty knowledgeable (knew the difference between IPS and TN panel) it will get Jelly Bean in November!! If Lenovo deliver on that promise, I will get it as soon as JB's available for real.

Also by the video I can tell that it can be held fairly comfortably in one hand, which also helps seal the deal for me.
[Nexus 7 General] aalupatti:
Specs seem to be a little bit better ( at least in terms of ports) , size is almost the same and a much bigger screen , mas memory slot, 2 camera,

cons : much heavier, lower resolution screen and poor dev support

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Lenovo-IdeaTab-A2109,Google-Nexus-7/phones/7474,7143
[Nexus 7 General] aniym:
Here is PhoneArena's review of the device.

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Lenovo-IdeaTab-A2109-Review_id3114

I get the feeling they spent maybe 30 mins with the tablet before rushing off a review. Parts of it don't make sense, like calling it "bloated with its weight (14oz)".

First, they are clearly using Best Buy's weight numbers, (14 oz = 397g) which are wrong. The tab actually weighs 570g. If it weighed ~400g, then it would actually be extremely light for its class, as even the venerable Galaxy Tab 8.9 weighed 453g. Nexus 7 is 340g, but of course it's much smaller in size.

Second, they also clearly missed the microSD card slot (which is hard to find and not mentioned in the manual, stupid of Lenovo really), and I think this influenced the score.

The review is good however as it's pretty detailed with regards to benchmarks and images of screen angle quality.
[Nexus 7 General] Angus66:
Played with a Lenovo A2109 today at Best Buy. It felt good in my hand, solid and well-built. I own a Nexus 7 and the build quality seemed comparable. I couldn't compare the screen to my N7 as I didn't have it with me.

The screen seemed "OK" though not anything special. Would've compared the screen to other tablets on display, but it was on the other side of the display and had no other tablets close enough to compare.

FWIW, all the Asus tablets (TF300, TF700, TF201) seemed poorly put together with some glass and chassis flex and a bit of creaking under moderate pressure.

In all fairness, the Lenovo was brand-new (just put out on display I was told) and the Asus tabs had obviously been on display for a while.

Don't know roughly the Asus tabs have been treated since being on display - probably pretty rough if I had to guess.
[Nexus 7 General] aniym:
I think we may need to update this thread to include the newly announced Kindle Fire HD, 8.9 inches at $299:

http://www.theverge.com/products/kindle-fire-hd-8-9-inch/6092

Big selling point is the screen, which is likely better than both the N7 and definitely the A2109, at 1920x1200.

It's not a pure Android tablet of course, but the original KF was rooted to run ICS fairly easily.

Specs are in the link above. Chipset is OMAP 4470, which Jeff Bezos claimed is better than Tegra 3 (except for Tegra-optimized games obviously).

Edit: Here's PhoneArena's video review of the A2109: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6beg3gt8-7w
[Nexus 7 General] shirtlessrabbit4:
I own it, love it, and have no complaints about lack of job. Pics is smooth on this and job update will come I believe. This tablet is probably the best purchase I've made, for many reasons. Only thing I wish for is for development support to bring root and themes. Theming with apex launcher and third party apps only goes so far
[Nexus 7 General] GTabJosh:
Rooted

Check the Lenovo forums for root directions (hint: it's up. har har har). No, seriously, I just rooted mine yesterday. Anyway, for the money (I paid $250), I think it's great. Yes, it's heavy for its size, and if you prop it up to watch a video, you will have to take care to get the viewing angle right. Otherwise I think the screen is fine, it's just obviously not IPS. The advantages over the Nexus 7 are apparent: micro-HDMI out, microSD slot, and form factor. The only deal-breaker for me is the size of the Nexus 7. I'd have trouble reading, much less writing, email on a 7" device. Hell, I don't know how I'd even hold it...
[Nexus 7 General] geekygirl74:
There is indeed an micro sd card slot

I just wanted to let you know the one A2109 that I bought at Best Buy does have the Micro SD slot, it's in the little door between the speakers. You have stick a thumb nail or something in there and it pops right open and it's there. I've already tested one of my old ones out in it.
[Nexus 7 General] GTabJosh:
"Better"? They "better" drug-test Bezos. I don't know what his criteria are, but based on the benchmarks of an available OMAP 4470 device (http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/22/archos-101-xs-review/) vs those of the A2109 (http://www.slashgear.com/lenovo-ideatab-a2109-review-10251158/), the Lenovo just edges out the 4470 in Quadrant (4046 vs 3835) but pleasantly squashes it in AnTuTu (10268 vs 7277) and CF-Bench (12032 vs 7750). Maybe "better" means cheaper... ;)

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BTW The price for the A2109 should be updated to $250. Newegg should be reputable enough to quote their pricing.
[Nexus 7 General] AndrewTL:
micro sd slot

The A2109 has a microSD slot. It is under the speaker cover. It has GPS. It has Bluetooth. It works with an external keyboard and mouse. I am using logitech's that Walmart sells. It has external volume controls. It has an HDMI port. It has a headphone outlet. It has a screen rotation lock. Has a forward and back camera. Comes with Skype and Norton loaded. Works with Google play. Has a vibrator and accelerometer. Wifi is working for me. Left and right external speakers. I have a microSD card installed and it is working just fine. Stock rom doesn't appear to have a way to push apps to it but media storage from it works. Volume could be better. Screen angles are a little tight. Seems pretty responsive to me. Works with amazon and b&n too. There is supposed to be a root process for it and a cwm rom but I have not tried it yet.

It beats nexus with the HDMI port. It worked great playing Netflix to my TV. Could go either way with HDMI port. Would be nice to be able to use tablet hooked to a TV from across the room but it works. This tablet is actually a real competitor.
[Nexus 7 General] styckx:
And so it begins.. *smh*... I would have returned it immediately if I got my Android device home to see that crap sitting on it..
[Nexus 7 General] Toyeboy:
I considered the ideapad weigh the Tegra cpu but the screens viewing angle is very poor
[Nexus 7 General] BrianDigital:
Norton is never a bonus when it comes to preloaded software
[Nexus 7 General] cognus:
anyone rooted the A2109 yet so as to remove the bloat?
[Nexus 7 General] GTabJosh:
Sorry this is so late, but here you go:

http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaPad...m1629X685119X7f235595b67b058189b176e66ba88220

There is also an A2109 forum on androidtablets.net.
[Nexus 7 General] cognus:
thanks Gtab! good catch
[General Questions and Answers] rsuraj38:
Hello friends,

This is my first post. I am a newbie and I am not too familiar with many technical details. I rooted my phone (cheap alcatel ot-890d) recently and want to overclock it from 420Mhz to 600Mhz . I came to know that in order to be able to overclock, a custom kernel is required before which flash recovery should be present. Now no matter how bad the phone is, I dont want to brick it. I wanted it know if flashing a custom recovery from ROM manager has a chance of bricking the phone or if it is unique for each phone. I downloaded Kernel manager only to find put that there are no compatible kernels (on clicking load kernel list ) Moreover I don't think that there are any custom ROMs for this phone.

Please help me......

I will be really grateful,

Thank you

sent from my Alcatel OT-890D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Gothic-4-Schiffer:
I was wondering if anyone with a network locked XPU on the three network had had it unlocked via Three (they charge about £15)?

& if so could you post your bootloader unlock allowed status?

(i.e. whether or not your bootloader is unlockable or unlocked)

Sorry for the scrappy English :p

Kind Regards…
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Gothic-4-Schiffer:
bump
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Neo1607:
I had to get mine unlocked by them, they charge £15.32 and have to request the unlock code from Sony which takes about 5 - 7 days.

My bootlocker unlock status is No, i believe i can get my bootlocker unlocked though through setools (if i have read correctly) but the s1 signature server is down and has been for several months so is currently unable to be done just now
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] AndroidProject:
Hi all

I want request an app

Thats can hide my ip

Strong Encrypted 128-Bit AES

Thanks:)

Sent from Cybertron Network
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] m.h.mahadi:
Did u tried this app,,https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.privacy.pdroid

I‘m not sure that it can hide IP but it can block many thing.. take a look at this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.privacy.pdroid
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] cacosubthree:
try openvpn or droidvpn or hostpot shield

it is available in the play store and best of all it is free :)

it hides your ip by using a foreign ip. it also compresses data to increase browsing speed and decrease data consumption.

however it depends on how you set things up or on what config you use.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] mobilecrackers:
Nice work......any other app
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] shrey.:
any app

hey guys is there any app or browse available to change the ip of browser country wise to browse anonymously?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] mai77:
tor network app available by now, too
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] mariozawa:
Yeah right its Orbot:)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.torproject.android&hl=en
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] encik_racun:
i'm using openvpn, with cheap vpn server :) working good...
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] iskandar1023:
im using orbot to browse the internet anonymously

you can try it
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] blue.wave:
I think there's another section for questions :)
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sreekuax:
Hello All,

Last Saturday I rooted my Wildfire and installed Cyanogenmod7. Its brilliant and super fast now. But I found that 3g is not working. Anybody do have a solution?

Asking because I do have a good 3G plan and I dont want to waste it :( . Also as a techy I do have to check my emails time to time
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Munckster:
Check your radio version.

This could help:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sreekuax:
Thank you.... So I have downloaded Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10 from the xda link you provided. Now I have to copy that to my SD card and flash it for 3G to work ?
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Munckster:
Note that you may need to check which version of CWM you are using.. To reflash the radio you may need to downgrade it...
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lesicnik1:
Or use this.

Flash this in your current recovery, it will give you a temporary 2.5 recovery that goes away on reboot.

Flash the radio inside the 2.5 recovery
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sreekuax:
Sorry for asking... I am not sure how to check the version of CWM.. Is there any way ?