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[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] kmdub:
Look up microcode on Google or read the Wikipedia article. That would be a good start. It is how processors are programmed, and no, an OTA will not change it. FYI, I don't know if that is specifically done with this SOC, I am just saying that features (seemingly hardware features to end users) can be changed with microcode. It may just not have the actual silicon. I don't know. Either way, from our perspective, it doesn't have an LTE radio.

The T-Mobile reps are wrong, at least for the phone that was just released. Simple as that. Now, there could be a hardware version update, or subsequent newer model released with the LTE radio. Certainly is possible, though it would likely have a slightly different model number, or be easily identifiable some other way.

I know you guys want the T999 to have an LTE radio. But, no matter how much you want it, that won't change the facts. The phone we have now doesn't have it. It's just one of those things that we will have to wait and see. Then we can come back and say, told you so. In fact, there is a JB update out now for the T999. Why doesn't someone flash that and try it out? Seriously, out of all the T999 phones sold, do you know ANYONE using LTE on it, whether on AT&T or elsewhere? If you do, please tell him/her to speak up. Think about it. Surely someone on these boards is an AT&T customer with a T999. It's not going to be "enabled" with an OTA...
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
The other person had a screenshot of this too. Just because it's there doesn't mean the hardware supports it. Why would it come with Jellybean when T-Mobile's LTE network won't even be out for months, maybe even a full year at the rate their refarming is going? And why would it even be ENABLED?

Also, everyone needs to STOP LISTENING to reps. Reps don't know anything more than most people who can use Google.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] kmdub:
This has certainly been my experience, and is not limited to just T-Mobile. I had one rep tell me with a straight face that the OS on a Galaxy S Blaze 4G was not in fact Android, but rather a custom OS and skin designed by Samsung...lol Yeah...sort of... And there was the time that one swore up and down that GSM (2G old school GSM, not UMTS/HSPA) was superior to CDMA...for reasons he could not possibly explain except to say that...well it must be better since the rest of the world uses it.

Don't get me wrong, I know there are some bright and knowledgeable reps working for T-Mobile and others.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
Of course there are, but by and by, most reps don't know **** about anything.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DiamondJay20:
could it be that T-Mobile's version of LTE Advanced will be compatible with whatever is inside the T999? This isn't just one rep who's told me its gonna have LTE, but several both live and on the phone.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
No. It just isn't going to happen, and their LTE Advanced network is a long time away.

If several people live and on the phone told you to jump off of a bridge, would you do it? Not to mention the fact that most of their phone reps are outsourced call centers that also know nothing.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] veritasaequita:
not sure if it matters but a friend of mine used his upgrade to get the s3 on att. now I'm not sure what they claim or if there phone is different than out tmob version but i can say that i did hold his phone and ran a speed test while the icon in the status bar showed LTE, it maxed at about 36meg d/l. later that night at one of our other friends house the icon showed 4G so i ran speedtest again and it stayed between 11meg to about 18meg. reading one of the above comments about the att version just got me thinking about that so i figured id tell what ive seen hoping it would help in any way
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] kmdub:
No. Whatever it is inside the T999 is not LTE. So, no version of LTE will be compatible with it. I understand optimism, but wow... No joke, the T-Mobile Galaxy S3 does not have LTE. I wouldn't be so disappointed though since HSPA is no slouch and still has a bit of room to grow. I actually think the approach T-Mobile took with their network advancements makes a lot of sense. Not saying it is the best marketing strategy.

Seriously, there are people on this forum that have the T999 on AT&T. No LTE. Just find them, ask them, confirm. And no, it is not coming in an OTA. It will only come in a different version of the phone (quite possible). The phone you have in your hand now will not magically be updated to LTE. While UMTS/HSPA and LTE are actually not as different as most may think (same standards family, both decedents of GSM), they are still different and require specific hardware. There are technical differences.

FYI, the AT&T version of the phone IS different than the T999, that's why he gets LTE.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] theking_13:
To the guy that took a screenshot. Look! It says CDMA! I can use this on Sprint and Verizon then right?!?!?!? :rolleyes::thumbdown:
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DiamondJay20:
alright then has someone done a teardown because all the mixed messages are nuts.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
Be was being sarcastic. It won't work.

Sent from my SGH-T999
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DiamondJay20:
Duhh of vourse he was being sarcastic but still its worth a teardown...even Quadrant Srandard says its the 8960, and seeing as tmobile say several things, why not actually see, literally
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DiamondJay20:
Has anyone found a firm answer to this, via teardown or trying an unlocked t999 on att?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Don_Perrignon:
Dude, people have answered. If T-Mo put LTE in their towers tomorrow, we'd still only be on HSPA+.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] psykhotic:
www.ifixit.com/Device/Samsung_Galaxy_S3
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
The T-Mobile S3 uses an MSM8260A. This is the same SoC as the ATT version MINUS LTE.

The BOARD is an MSM8960.

Sent from my SGH-T999
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] knarfies:
for what its worth, and i know reps dont know much more than us end users but he did ask his manager ( not that its any better ) and he did explain that yes. its a radio issue. that doesnt mean we wouldnt get it come next year. He had mentioned something about needing Samsung to release the actual radio for lte in order for Tmobile to allow lte for the GS3. He mentioned Lte will come the first qrtr of 13.

Im not trying to piss anyone off but im merely stating what i was told today as i was a bit confused as to what hspa+:42 was and why my phone only says hspa:11. just some food for thought.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
There is no way this phone will pick up an LTE signal save a hardware swap. Your phone only shows HSPA+11 because T-Mobile HSPA+42 is only in some major markets ;)

Sent from my SGH-T999
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] kmdub:
Wow. Yes, there is a firm answer. The MSM8960 is not just one processor or part. The board is an MSM8960, the modem is an MSM8260A. This is confirmed via the phone itself, if anyone cares to look. I haven't seen a teardown yet, but it isn't needed. The phone itself will tell you what is in it. Even if the SOC had a big MSM8960 stamped on it, which it might, that doesn't mean it has an LTE modem and hardware. There are plenty of people with unlocked T-Mobile T999's on AT&T. NONE, I repeat, NONE of them use LTE on that phone. Find one person on AT&T with a T999 that is using LTE. Just one. Not picking on you, but how much proof do you need? There are some serious optimists here.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DiamondJay20:
where? How do I see it?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] kmdub:
Just do a "getprop" in terminal. Look at the value for "ril.modem.board". Then, look up the MSM8260A at the Qualcomm dev site. If that is not enough, take into account that T-Mobile (not a customer rep or someone working at a store) has said the phone does not have LTE, and that it contains an 8260A specifically. Also, think about it. The phone has been out for a couple of months now. Have you heard of anyone, anywhere that has used the T999 on any LTE anywhere? Out of all the T999 phones made, do you not think there might be someone, somewhere with an unlocked T999 on some network that offers LTE?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
Jesus Christ. How dense are you? There is NO logical reason for the phone to have an LTE chip. I understand maybe being jealous that other carriers get LTE and we get HSPA+42 but come on. IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. THE CHIP IS AN MSM8260A. Get over it. There will be NO LTE ADVANCED OR LTE on this phone when T-Mobile rolls out their LTE network.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DiamondJay20:
you shoulda said that at the start of this thread. Now I see it. This makes me really wanna switch carriers, especially as I don't want no iPhone fanboys bragging "my phone has LTE, yours doesn't," and I do want the latest tech, especially if LTE gets built out now that the jesusPhone has it. Plus a live T-Mobile representative told me to my face it would get LTE as have several of their reps. Maybe I will go on ATT's Mobile Share with a smartphone and a tablet, or start an individual account, buy out someone with grandfathered unlimited's line out, and then switch the data plan. Or should I wait until t-Mobile comes out with an LTE phone, sell mine unlocked online?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
REPS DO NOT KNOW ANYMORE THAN ANYONE WHO CAN USE GOOGLE. If you care so much that the iPhone has a battery draining LTE modem, by all means, switch to a phone that has one. Enjoy paying more for such an incremental upgrade.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DiamondJay20:
I just don't wanna be left out, I wanted my phone to be future proof. It kind of is, with 2GB of RAM, NFC, but still, no LTE??? But then again, will LTE-Advanced render ATT/VZ/SP phones obsolete?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
No phone is future proof. LTE-Advanced isn't even coming anytime soon. Why do you care so much about who has better phones? Jesus. It's not like the other three carriers won't upgrade to LTE advanced.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DiamondJay20:
I do understand that T-Mobile's LTE network is gonna b release 10. But I still feel like I'm now a step down that LTE is blowin up.:(
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
If you want something that will drain your battery for MARGINAL gains in real world usage, by all means switch.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DiamondJay20:
Those speed test screenshots on LTE phones are hard not to get jealous of.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
Do you get jealous of quadrant scores too?

Sent from my SGH-T999
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DiamondJay20:
No cuz I won't have iPhone fanboys flashing em in my face. Part of the reason I love Android is not just for its features, but bc its better than the iPhone
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
But you care so much that it has LTE..

Sent from my SGH-T999
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] psykhotic:
I think there's not enough information to decide either way. Is LTE specifically defined? Cuz "4g" seems to mean a lot of different things. Do we even know what frequencies tmo uses? Or will use? Hasn't there been a lot of trading lately? What are the exact speeds on tmos new "LTE" network? Which markets have coverage? How is the battery life on our phones affected by LTE?

I think this should be filed under we don't know till we know and everyone should move on.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
Why? The answer is there. To T-Mobile, 4G is HSPA+. LTE is Long Term Evolution. It is a progression from GSM. T-Mobile uses the frequencies 850mhz, 1700,1900, and 2100. AT&T LTE is on the 700mhz band. There is NO LTE in our phones. There is no speculation. It is not there and it never will be save a hardware swap.

Sent from my SGH-T999
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] kmdub:
Yes, LTE is very well defined. Yes, we do know the exact frequencies that T-Mobile currently uses and will use for LTE in the future. The trading is not relevant to this discussion, nor or the frequencies for that matter. It is not an issue of frequency. It is simply that the phone does not have LTE, on any frequency.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joederp:
Just like a Sprint WiMax phone won't be able to work on the LTE towers. Sure, LTE is a software change from Wimax, and yes, Clearwire will still be using same frequency for their LTE and WiMax, and if Clear made cellphones, you could firmware change and have LTE phone. (But Wimax and LTE are technically similar). Anyways, the reason it won't work and your Wimax phone has to go in garbage, or why you bought a Sprint S3 and it has no LTE or Wimax right now... Is because Sprint's LTE isn't at 2.6GHz. So you need new hardware for LTE.

Now AT&T LTE is a different frequency then T-mobile HSPA+ so it isn't just a software change.

The difference and reason for the MSM8260A part number is because the hardware is different. Yes, if t-mobile ever wanted to use LTE on 1700 then you could have an LTE T999, but they aren't. http://juggly.cn/wpjuggly/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/qualcomm-roadmap01.jpg

tl;dr 1700 MHz is different and you can't use AT&T LTE frequencies.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] psykhotic:
Oh jeez. The point I obviously failed to make clear is that it DOESN'T MATTER because nothing has happened yet. Until it's actually out there's no reason to argue over it.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] kmdub:
See, that's the thing. It has happened already. LTE is here, carriers are using it, at least here in North America. It is out, well defined, and known. There are plenty of LTE phones out. I think you misunderstand the issue.

No. You misunderstand how this works. It has nothing to do with frequency. LTE and HSPA can work on the same frequencies, and will in the case of T-Mobile. That is not the issue in this case. Just because someone uses the same frequency bands does not mean the technologies are compatible, or able to be changed via software. Frequency bands are just carriers. While they can sometimes be defined within the specs of certain standards, they themselves do not define the standard, not in this case. The phone simply does not have LTE; nothing to do with frequency. We are really making this more complicated than it really is. The current version of the T999 will never become an LTE phone. Again, it is that simple.

WiMax and LTE ARE NOT technically similar (at least not in the sense of complete mobile telephony standards). No software change is going to make WiMax LTE or vice versa, on a phone or network. LTE is a descendant of GSM and as such, specifies much more than just air interface and such. It also specifies back end components and standards, just like GSM and UMTS. LTE is the new 4G standard, not WiMax, that has already been decided by the market. WiMax was not specifically designed to be a mobile telephony standard, LTE was.

Actually, that is not necessarily true. AT&T does/did have LTE on the AWS bands. Again, do not confuse frequencies with other standards.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] psykhotic:
LTE or LTE-A? "4G" isn't even 4G. 95% of all of is this just MARKETING. "LTE" on tmo is completely irrelevant. I can't even get HSPA+ 100% of the time along a major freeway in a MAJOR city. This whole marketing war is BS and isn't helping anything. It's only distracting away from beefing up what we already have. I want to see HSPA+ reliable and everywhere before they move on to the next thing. 42mbps is way more than anyone needs for anything and in most cases outpaces any server.

And again "LTE" on tmo isn't even worth talking about. Unless you have a copy of their rollout plan? Please tell me what cities are getting it and those dates.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] kmdub:
Ok man, whatever. The discussion was about the lack of LTE on the T999. Frankly, I could care less what you think is marketing, and whether you get HSPA or LTE in your location. I am just telling you what LTE is and isn't. Sure marketing is a big part of what carriers do, but LTE is not JUST marketing, it is an actual quantifiable, certifiable standard, that some carriers have and some don't. Now, the term 4G is definitely a loaded marketing term; no doubt about that. Whatever you call 4G, I don't care, but there is a difference in HSPA and LTE, regardless of what "G" it is.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Don_Perrignon:
It'll be a couple of years before anyone in this country has true 4G. But, whatever, is everyone done asking whether or not this phone will work on LTE? Because, we're running out of ways to say no.:o
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] psykhotic:
I think you mean HSPA+. And who cares about LTE? LTE-Advanced is the only true 4G standard. The others were only allowed to use it because of MARKETING PRESSURE.

All of this is relevant to the discussion about the lack of LTE on the phone. Because I'm saying not having LTE isn't a big deal. Again I'd like to point out it's unlikely to get server speeds over 42mbps. So what other advantages does LTE have? Why is the lack of it an issue? What markets is tmo releasing it in and when?

Are our phones compatible with HSPA+ Rel 9 or is Rel 9 "LTE" ?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] kmdub:
Excellent point.

Dude, seriously. I meant exactly what I said, not necessarily what you think I said. This is getting a bit ridiculous, and I am not sure you actually know what to ask for a proper answer.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
THE PHONE HAS AN MSM8260A SOC WHICH IS, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, AN MSM8960 WITHOUT LTE. DISCUSSION OVER AND THREAD OVER.

WOOOOOO

Sent from my SGH-T999
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] psykhotic:
Is our HSPA+ Rel 8 or Rel 9? The phone antenna, NOT the network.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] apoorvnaik:
T999 Teardown by TechRepublic

Here's the teardown of T999.

I hope this helps clearing everyone's doubts regarding the hardware.

techrepublic[dot]com/blog/cracking-open/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-teardown-reveals-easy-open-case-difficult-to-fix-display/666
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] psykhotic:
Internal hardware

Our T-Mobile Galaxy S III test unit has the following hardware:

1.5GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 processor (MSM8960)

Samsung K3PE0E000A-XGC2 16Gb LPDDR2 Mobile DRAM (2GB)

16GB Samsung KLMAG4FE4B-B002 storage chip

4.8″ HD Super AMOLED screen (1280 x 720 resolution)

8MP rear-facing camera

1.9MP front-facing camera

3.8V, 2,100 mAh Li-Ion battery (EB-L1G6LLA)

Melfas touchscreen controller (8PL590 1207)

236A 1213 1374

Qualcomm PM8921 power management IC (PM8921 AD2T708 F3214004)

Invensense MPU-6050 6-axis (gyro + accelerometer) MEMS MotionTracking device

Qualcomm RTR8600 multi-band/mode RF transceiver (RTR8600 AFM287.0 HA20400A)

Murata SWQ GAD48 package (possibly an RF antenna switch module)

FDMC510P -20V P-Channel PowerTrench MOSFET (F BC9AA FDMC 510P)

4756E8 C315A9

CML0801 (possibly a CMOS IC)

TriQuint TQM7M5013 Quad-Band GSM / GPRS / EDGE-Linear Power Amplifier Module (TQM7M5013 1211 KORE AT4208)

Skyworks 77737 Power Amplifier Module for LTE Bands 12/17 (698-716 MHz) (77737-4 46187.1 1217 MX)

RF Micro Devices RF7241 3V WCDMA Band 1 Linear PA Module (7241 K41F)

RF Micro Devices RF7244 3V WCDMA Band 4 Linear PA Module (7244 EVVB)

RF Micro Devices RF7245 3V WCDMA Band 5 Linear PA Module (7245 K3TT)

NXP 65N30 39 17 NSD216

Silicon Image SiI9244 MHL Transmitter with HDMI Input (SIMG 9244B0 PGW653C 10K2218)

Audience eS305 audio processor (AUD 305B 00022 1141A)

1894 CB216

Y218 13CM

Qualcomm WCD9310 (WCD9310 NBA78900 A204002 03)

Skyworks 77762 SkyHi PAM for WCDMA/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+/LTE (77762-1 9755.1P 1217 MX)

N8BA C7P

---------- Post added at 08:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:29 AM ----------

Galaxy S III LTE hardware

Bill Detwiler - TechRepublic 25th Jun

The T-Mobile version of the Galaxy S III has a Qualcomm MSM8960 SoC package (which contains an integrated LTE modem), a Qualcomm RTR8600 multi-band/mode RF transceiver (which supports DC-HSPA+, LTE, and EDGE), and a Skyworks 77737 Power Amplifier Module for LTE Bands 12/17. Given this hardware, it's plausible that the T-Mobile Galaxy S IIIs could support LTE--even though T-Mobile doesn't have an LTE network at this time. Turning on the phone's LTE support would likely require rooting the phone and installing new firmware.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joshnichols189:
Jesus. The board is an MSM8960 it says MSM8960 directly on the board. The SoC itself is an MSM8260A. There is no LTE in this phone and no rooting and firmware will change that.

Sent from my SGH-T999
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] joederp:
Sorry but the cpu is the same but the SoC module is just for T-Mobile. It is missing the passives and inductor to allow for the bands needed for att lte

That is why there is a different part number, check the ppt slides.

The board has differences, the silkscreen has T 999 on it but it is based on the i747 layout because it also has the same markings. It is non trivial to design for 1700 versus other stuff.

Discussion of T-Mobile using lte on AWS is pointless
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Don_Perrignon:
Guys, seriously - you can ask a question, look at the hardware twenty different ways, but at the end, the content of questions or the overall look doesn't change - the answer (twenty different ways) still is that this phone will not get a LTE signal.

Kid: Mom, can I have a cookie?

Mom: No.

Kid: If I get you flowers, can I have a cookie?

Mom: No.

Kid: What can I do to get a cookie?

Mom: Nothing.

Kid: But, what if -

Mom: No.

Same concept guys. Let's go have some ice cream since mom will not allow us to have a cookie.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] bradleyw801:
I don't have a copy of their "rollout plan", but my brother is an independent contractor who does cell site acquisition. He gets contracts from General Dynamics, who gets them from T-mobile with requests to upgrade existing towers, build new ones, and basically build out their network. His job is to clear the zoning, get the building permits, and jump through all the city, state, and federal bureaucracy to get the tower approved. I can tell you that at least in Salt Lake City, T-mobile already has a few of their new LTE towers in place. They are in weird places, and I think that's because the red tape is easier to cut through depending on the city. But there is at least one in Morgan County, one in Tooele County, and 2 in Salt Lake County. They aren't active, but, they are an indicator that T-mo is not as far off as you might think.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DiamondJay20:
Wanna find out when their data coverage map is gonna show a little more 3/4G instead of EDGE galore? I'm about to terminate over that. Their EDGE is better than Sprint 3G but that's not really gonna cut it
[LG Nitro HD] aymen_ben_ammar:
Hi ,

I have My phone rooted on 163 and i need to have CWM recovery without installing ant other Rom ? Any Help Please

Thanks
[Milestone 2 General] Jerry2011:
It's annoying that FB start to use your location even you turn off "messenger location off" since last Fall. The app will activate GPS and other location service at background without notifying.

I'm currently using the CM9 Nightly for Milestone 2, and it seems the permission revoke function once appeared at CM7 is not included in this ROM. So, how to forbid the evil facebook to do bad things? I know an easier way is uninstall it! Thank you very much!