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[Atrix 4G General] AbleAmazing:
Yet another reason why I am never ever buying another Apple product. They have patents over industry standards. Samsung is inevitably using those functionalities - similar to how Apple put their own proprietary skin over Xerox's graphical user interface.
[Atrix 4G General] waiters:
Does anyone know what patents were prove to have been infringing? The radio said they were stupid I.e 4 icons on bottom of home screen and other things that have already been changed in newer versions, of touchwiz and ICS?

Dude on radio went on to say this will have aboutly no affect on Android or samsung later?
[Atrix 4G General] Maringer:
Also things such as pinch-zoom and double-tap to zoom. Also the 'bounce' animation.

The ridiculous point is that there is plenty of prior art for most of these touch interface aspects dating back decades before Apple's patents. However, Apple was allowed to patent them relating to capacitive screens only.

The USPTO really are a bunch of imbeciles for awarding some of those patents in the first place. Nothing new there.
[Atrix 4G General] sms2000:
My personal hope is with the fact Mr. Jobbs is out forever and for good.

Soon Crapple Ltd. will become only the patent troll and not an R&D pusher.

We should expect their inevetable decline and demise in few years.
[Atrix 4G General] quetzalcoatl2435:
This was actually the expected outcome. You think that American juries deciding between finding an American or South Korean company guilty in an American court would go against said American company?

Let's narrow it down even more. Silicon Valley juries in a Silicon Valley court deciding that a Silicon Valley company is guilty? No chance. Just like the South Korean court decided both was guilty, but Apple more than Samsung.

Things like this should be decided in a more neutral zone, methinks. Europe comes to mind, since the verdicts of courts there clearly show no obvious bias at all. Everyone gets to win some and lose some. That should get them talking of licensing rather than litigating.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-dqUuvLk4

^ I saw this in another thread, and IMO it's definitely worth watching.

Sure most of it is common sense, but what if the jury watched this video before they made their decision?...
[Atrix 4G General] peddarson:
actually the whole case seens stupid to me.i do not know any other company which acts stupid as apple about its patents.and many patents seem to be quite stupid.

shall we have round screens now because apple says so?no because apple has a patent for this probably too :D

europe seems to be a better place for a real decision.
[Atrix 4G General] quetzalcoatl2435:
A good read that somewhat confirms my earlier assumptions.

And effects of the verdict doesn't seem to be in Apple's best interest, what with Apple basically admitting that Samsung is the same as Apple...
[Atrix 4G General] duchski:
Yeah. Big surprise, American company and a staple of American economy won with Korean company in an American court.

Apple has been a monopolist bully since day one. Don't own a single product of theirs. Never will.

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I saw that too. How could they even obtain a patent for this?

Too bad nobody Apple never got a patent for computers with reactangular screens...
[Atrix 4G General] jersonf:
I predict the costs of parts used by Apple will increase to recover the costs.

Samsung will get their money back.

Saw a post and thanked that person, but it was the quoted person I wanted to thank, too bad I can't take it away.

Sent from my Nexus 7

Motorola Atrix (v1.10.436)

Nexus 7 (Vanilla root flavour)
[Atrix 4G General] mfragoso:
I totally agree, this parody is outrageous, if Apple could apply all their so called "patents" will be impossible to produce any new telephone.
[Atrix 4G General] yeahmann:
There were a number of patents that were found to have been violated. Some are legit claims. The bounce back and pinch-to-zoom were novel, non-obvious, and useful. The app grid is borderline. Samsung obviously copied the iPhone's design but design patents suck. Put 5 teams in 5 different rooms and one of them will eventually come up with a smartphone design that looks like the iPhone.
[Atrix 4G General] changeofseasons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JcSu7h-I40&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Apple didn't invent pinch to zoom.
[Atrix 4G General] xlcjw72:
i was going to post that, i dont know if that is the video with jobs saying he proudly copies and then says i hate copiers. im never big on people in charge but jobs was so arrogant it wasnt funny. how he was worshiped is so bull**** he didn't care about his customers he made them like his product or nothing else. ie flash, locked down app store. i under stand the patent office but it is so corrupt if any normal person invented something he would need hundreds of thousands just to get those clowns to look at the patent. another bad example is some guy got the patent of a hole in a jacket for headphones. its so unreal
[Atrix 4G General] yeahmann:
You're right. Apple's patent looks much more specific. In essence, pinch-to-zoom error correction. You can continue to zoom even if a contact is lost momentarily. That shouldn't be patentable. Once you have pinch-to-zoom, some error correction is an obvious improvement.
[Atrix 4G General] upndwn4par:
Interesting take on the jury deliberations. Long, but well worth the read. Looks like they did a pretty sloppy job.

http://m.gizmodo.com/5938219/why-the-apple-v-samsung-ruling-may-not-hold-up
[Atrix 4G General] OSNPA:
Read that today. I would think the iLawyers would have done a better job briefing the jury on how exactly to put together their verdict. This won't be the end result, too many errors.
[Atrix 4G General] ravilov:
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/08/25/will-apple-now-sue-google/

Somewhat relevant.
[Atrix 4G General] eddhard:
Maybe apple will have to pay more for all the Samsung (and subsidiary company's) components that are used in the iPhone and iPad. Also I remember a German company registering iPad as a trade mark in Europe during the 90s for a type of light switch.
[Atrix 4G General] rickc3k:
I think if Samsung retaliated this way, Apple would sue them again, they are very quick to cry.

In the end the real winners are the lawyers and the real losers are us, the customers.

Samsung is hardly an angel but compared to Apple they are. It is scary how people worship them and do anything they say, like what they are told to like. People saying "the iphone just works" and be so happy to be dumb and not use an Android, which is not like it takes a master degree to use, and throw money at apple every time they present a new phone or ipad with a minimum change. This for me is the scary part, how much power they have and keep getting more.
[Atrix 4G General] quetzalcoatl2435:
The more the jurors talk, the more they shoot themselves (and Apple) in the foot.
[Atrix 4G General] thewarhawk:
It really seems like the lead juror in this trial was pretty biased. Even after Samsung convinced the jury that Apple hadn't really invented pinch to zoom or the bounce effect, and Apple couldn't convince the jury otherwise, he took it upon himself to try and prove to the other jurors that Apple was right, based on stuff he just kind of made up. Before he went out and had his 'aha' moment on how to defend the patents, everyone on the jury said they felt like the trial was leaning towards Samsung.

Besides, anyone who thinks a rectangular object with rounded edges as trade-dress is a complete idiot..
[Atrix 4G General] ravilov:
This verdict could make for a quite interesting turn in marketing...
[Atrix 4G General] heatweb:
:laugh: but i do think apple want to win google.
[Atrix 4G General] ravilov:
Another interesting twist.

Chinese company uses leaked photos to copy, patent iPhone 5 design
[Atrix 4G General] DroidRunner:
Apples lawyers are going to have a field day with them. Who knew there was patent laws in China anyways.
[Atrix 4G General] 41.:
Maybe I can do the same in my country... I wouldn't mind suing apple for a few thousand bucks.
[Atrix 4G General] heatweb:
it is not easy to say who win the game...
[Atrix 4G General] ross1998:
Forgot where i read it but samsung will most likely sue apple if the iphone 5 get lts which it will most likely
[Atrix 4G General] DroidRunner:
Because of some LTE patent. A lot of people are happy about this because its a taste of their own medicine. But its stupid. Everyone has had enough with the lawsuits as it is. Who cares if Android is on offense now. Tying up courts and the consumer still suffering the most.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Atrix 4G General] waiters:
Lte would be considered a standard and as such samsung legally must give it to apple at a cheap price..

Sadly.. I don't see Samsung ever taking the offensive with Apple..
[Atrix 4G General] csell:
The round steeringwheel once also was at least as novel, non-obvious and useful. I am very glad that there was no patent system like we have today in place during the early years of industrialization, because we'd still be living in the early 1900's technologically.

However, I would still contend that, given a tablet or smartphone screen and enough time, anyone would come up with these gestures. I dont see any real "invention" here.

There is a saying that goes "everybody is standing on somebody elses shoulders". Apple is denying that, and my prediction is that they will go under pretty fast if they dont learn to compete in terms of technological achievements (not tapping on a screen with a finger!) and/or good design rather than in terms of twisted jurisdiction.
[Atrix 4G General] ravilov:
LOL
[Atrix 4G General] upndwn4par:
And here it is.....

http://gizmodo.com/5948158/samsung-pulls-the-trigger-on-iphone-5-patent-lawsuit
[T-Mobile LG G2x] O1A2K:
hello guys I have a Wind Mobile phone which has::

Android Version: 2.3.3

Kernel: 2.6.32.9

V21e

now to the problem.... i can't install any ICS roms. i have tried the EaglesBlood ICS AOSP rom but it just boots up to its eaglesblood startup screen and then just powers off :mad::mad::(:(

and the other rom i tried was the HellFire Sandwich ICS rom but that just rebooted into the second LG splash screen and then just gets stuck there forever (more than 17:32 minutes) and the battery really heated up... :mad::mad::(:(:(

so please i need ICS on my phone badly .. PLEASE HELP!!!!!

(thanks in advance) :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rtotheichie:
First, have you been able to install any GB ROMs?

Did you NVFlash CWM or use ROM Manager?

Did you follow both of their install instructions to the letter?

Did you flash anything else with the ROMs, or just the ROM package?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] cody168:
My Wind mobile G2X is still at 2.2.2 (V11h) before I flash any of the ROMs. I had no problem flashing with the recent OMFGB [Reborn] ROM :good: and the current Hellfire Phoenix V2.3 ROM. :good::good: I remember earlier this year I flash a unofficial ICS ROM without issues too but it was very unstable and most of the phone functions are not working. :p

How did you get your phone to 2.3.3 and V21e? Perhaps you could use the original Wind branded KDZ file to restore your phone back to the original state (V11h) and then flash the ROMs you like? :fingers-crossed:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] O1A2K:
1. I used ROM manager to get the CWM 5.0.2.0 recovery but i used the NVFlash to get the v2.3.3. (V21e) ROM

2. yes i did ... the HellFire Sandwich Rom instructions told me to wait 10 minutes in red but i waited for 17 minutes and my phone heated up like crazy so i had to take out the battery

3. i flashed the gapps after flashing the Rom but that was in the instructions so i just followed what they told me
[T-Mobile LG G2x] O1A2K:
i followed this to get turn my phone to 2.3.3 and V21e: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1248644

can you give me a link so i can get the Wind branded KDZ file to restore my phone ... thanks
[T-Mobile LG G2x] rtotheichie:
I may be mistaken, but you may need to use NVFlash for CWM because that works at a lower level then using ROM Manager
[T-Mobile LG G2x] O1A2K:
NVflash doesn't work i have tried it .... whenever i click any of the three options::

1. Flash CWM 4.0.1.5 Internal SD ROM and Nandroid Support Only

2. Flash CWM 5.0.2.0 Internal and External SD ROM (External Nandroid ROM)

3. Flash Stock Recovery (Only Flash if returning phone to T-Mobile)

it opens a notepad stating the following:

@echo off

cls

COLOR 4

echo ================================================== =============

echo ================================================== =============

echo One Click Stock Recovery Flash for T-Mobile G2x

echo ================================================== =============

echo ================================================== =============

nvflash.exe --bct E1108_Hynix_512MB_H8TBR00U0MLR-0DM_300MHz_final_emmc_x8.bct --bl fastboot.bin --download 5 stock-recovery.img

echo ================================================== =============

echo ================================================== =============

echo *****Once nvflash has completed successfully then hit any key to close.*****

echo ****If any step failed then repeat the process****

pause

so that is why i couldn't do anything with nvflash
[T-Mobile LG G2x] cody168:
I personally haven't try it yet because I am still on the old stock Wind branded ROM. Here is the link to download: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1594396

Here is how to flash it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1601918

I think it is the same way when you flashed your G2X. Please post up results thanks.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] O1A2K:
thanks a lot i really needed that...

i will surely post the results but right now it's getting late night here in canada so i will do it later not right now ..

thanks again :):):):good::good::good:
[Nexus S General] cteneyck:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/24/apple-v-samsung-decision/

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/24/tech/mobile/apple-samsung-verdict/index.html

Such crap.
[Nexus S General] Cuyi02:
I'm bugging over this big time. I even ranted about it on twitter and on facebook. Samsung has to pay $1.05 billion to Apple and Apple isn't guilty of jack? This is some BS. It's like what another Spaniard tweeted:

"If Apple made cars, it'd be the only one that can make them with four wheels, rearview mirrors and a steering wheel"
[Nexus S General] 063_XOBX:
By the time the appeals process is completed it will probably be much less, possibly even nothing. Court cases aren't over this fast.
[Nexus S General] Firetime123:
Well, Samsung isn't really innocent, when you take a look at the Galaxy S and S2 you will see that it's very similar to the iPhone 3/3GS and the iPhone 4. If 1.05 Billion dollar are really justified is something else but I think Samsung just gets what it deserves.
[Nexus S General] 063_XOBX:
The iPhone is a touchscreen and a button. There isn't anything to copy. You can't just patent essential elements to something. That would be like if Ford sued every car that had four wheels and a steering wheel.
[Nexus S General] jeremy112683:
F#%& apple even more. Samsung all the way
[Nexus S General] niteh@wk:
There goes innovation. Wth happened to antitrust laws? The verdict today totally goes against antitrust. Way to support monopoly today.
[Nexus S General] Firetime123:
Then I'd say you take a look at all the other OEMs like Sony, Nokia ect. Their devices look very different from the iPhone and they are accused of copying the design of the iPhone. I really can't understand why there are people who refuse to admit that Samsung took a very close look at the iPhone when they were designing the Galaxy S and S2.
[Nexus S General] apatal:
I don't know about you guys but I'm looking forward to speaker-less, circular Nexus phones in the future! Innovation FTW!!! :D
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
Wow everything apple said in the statement was complete and utter lies.. Apple thrives on originality and innovation? I since when did apple innovate? They copied the cell phone, computer and everything in between... Very sad for Samsung indeed
[Nexus S General] JiminyCricket64:
Does that potentially make it a "monapplely" :)
[Nexus S General] mactheburger:
Samsung didn't take the case seriously.

Apple only has their "image" and "aesthetics" which define them as a company. Of course they would come to court about Image and likeness patents with everything in their bags.

I didn't buy my phone cause it looked like an apple product and design elements that made it act like an apple product. I bought it cause is WASN'T an Apple product.

People don't buy a Samsung tablet because they "though it was an iPad" they buy it cause they don't want an iPad.

I always though the obligatory apple logo and the silly cases with the hole in it to show the logo was the distinguishing feature of iCrap.
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
That's really funny because apple was saying that so many people were complaining about samsungs tablet because they thought it was an Ipad and they were saying it was ****.

if anyone is that stupid to buy a samsung tablet and get it mixed for an ipad then they have to be working for apple. Evidently if someone thinks a samsung tablet is an ipad it will be someone working for them because they want to make a case for every patent. "ITS A RECTANGLE WITH ROUNDED EDGES" "ITS A TOUCH SCREEN" "IT'S 10"" "IT'S BETTER THEN OURS AND WERE JUST MAKING EXCUSES"

****ing apple, cry me a river, we all know apples aren't loved by everyone, and besides, what would this world be like if we didn't have oranges and peaches and such?
[Nexus S General] Tomatoes8:
Puleese. the Galaxy S2 looks nothing like the iphone 4. And even if you think Samsung deserves some punishment, you can't justify somethign as retarded as ALL of those phones infringing. I mean like all of them including the Nexus S 4g and a phone with a Qwerty keyboard.
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
you tell me where these 2 phones look the same? samsung is bigger, slimmer and is made of plastic and the home button on it is a rectangle not a circle. Is this an imitation of the iphone 4s? hell naw, it's just a phone thats black, is a touch screen and has a button on it... I don't even realize how apple justified their case. The jury must of been a bunch of retards, they shouldve based their judgement off of common sense and not the patent law
[Nexus S General] inspiron2:
imho, Samsung is the real copycat...copying the design of both hardware and software, even to the things like dock connector and store concept. this is good, a slap in the face for any copycat lurking around, forcing everyone to come up with even better designs like how Nokia did

the only thing i feel original about Samsung is the Nexus series.
[Nexus S General] red_skittles:
The outcome to the trial was not surprising at all. Samsung did violate Apple's patents. But Apple should have never been granted those patents in the first place. Bounce back when scrolling to the end of a menu. What type of BS is it that that is a patentable invention. The only way I can see that Samsung violated that patent is if Apple provided that Samsung ripped the code straight from iOS source code and used it line for line in their UI. Otherwise Apple basically has a patent covering the idea of a particular UI element.

You know what those are? Steve Jobs favorite quotes. Enough said

When it comes to software patents the patent system is a joke. And its not just Apple. How can Amazon have a patent for one click checkout. On its own that is an idea and abstract concept. The only thing that should be patentable about that is the underlying code. If someone comes along and makes another one click checkout system but the underlying source code and software methods are different, how can that be infringement? I just wish Google would play a more active role in defending its android partners from Apple. They should be able to destroy apple on a search patent, right? Google is search so the patent office must have granted them the patent for "method and apparatus for searching"
[Nexus S General] ReVo_007:
Apple has always been like this only but those retards cant seem to work a way out to give a proper balance of hardware and software at a good price , so whats better way to reap your losses over some other company's profit . The kind of patents they have been filing its like 2+2=4 but 3+1=4 cant be put . Yes copying source code would be different case but that's not the thing here.
[Nexus S General] rrohanjs:
lost all respect for apple, will never ever buy an apple product again in my life

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Apple copied drop down notifications dint they ? Sue them back Samsung
[Nexus S General] apatal:
They can't because they didn't file a patent for it. Maybe they should...or not, don't stoop down to Apple's level: Filing patents for such general things such as shape of a device. Sheeesh

Sent from my Nexus S
[Asus Transformer TF700] 2tabletfamily:
I got my tablet in July , and a week later got my keyboard,,,,, tell you the truth I was so excited I didn't notice if any of the firmware updates I did were specifically for the docking station ....... (which is a 201) but tonight I just got an OTA firmware update...... my docking stn has worked fine..... so not sure what the update is for ....... don't know if I should have got it weeks ago,,,,or if it is another update..... just thought I would post this in case anyone else got one ..... wonder what it's for ?? no biggy, just curious ! (I am in Canada by the way,,,,, maybe we get things later ? )
[Asus Transformer TF700] jrkart99:
Because Canada is behind the US usually for quality updates,... except for universal health care! Bahh-zing! ...and I'm banned for life from xda,... like lance from cycling! Bahh-zing x2!

No seriously it was probably an earlier update you missed.

Thread closed. Lol.
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] stopro:
Anybody can port neon keyboard for example holoime from wanam ROM to jb cos ain't got clue how to do that and I don't want to install crapy exluncher or any carp like that .

thx for any answer
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jamezz23:
Not sure why but I have yet to see hspa+ in places I use to get it on my other phone. I know this phone is capable of it but for some reason I'm not getting it. APN settings typed in correct and everything.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Where are you looking? There's no "H+" menu bar icon on the GNex. The only way to tell if you're on HSPA+ is to be in the about phone menu and watching the network mode.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jamezz23:
Ahh I was looking for the H+ logo
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Doesn't exist. You get:

x: no service

R: roaming

G: GPRS

E: EDGE

3G: UMTS

H: HSDPA / HSUPA / HSPAP / HSPA+
[Epic 4G General] techfuman:
According to USA Today, Samsung lost the vast majority of the substantial patent violation issues in the CA suit with damages of over $1B awarded to Crapple.

Unfortunately, it looks like Samsung is in pretty deep poo just about now. It won't affect OG Epic users, as we are using EOL hardware. But for those of us considering upgrades it might have some impact. I'm thinking long and hard about buying an SGS3 or any other Sammy product right now. They are going to be a mess for at least a year while all of this patent stuff gets worked out.

Anyone else have thoughts on what kind of impact this might have?
[Epic 4G General] RodimusConvoy:
I just want to get a Samsung Captive Glide, switch to Net10/Straight Talk, and call it a day. I have no idea what this means as far as downloading or updating apps or updating the system specs or whatever. But that's all I want until the NEXT powerful Android with a keyboard comes out.

Right now I just have the Epic 4G, and when I get $500 I'll get the Captivate Glide. I hope by then nothing hinky happens when I try to activate then unlock it.