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[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] CaptainRewind:
I've posted the petition on their Facebook page everyday since this thread started.

I thought it would have gotten more "Likes" but maybe they've been taking it down. I sent tweets but Twitter has that known inability to provide any freaking detail in 160 characters :(.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] addictedhacks:
HTC not Verizon??

They called me today before I could respond to his email and according to Verizon it is not their fault that the boot loader is locked, but HTC. In some regions the INC4G is really glitchy and they want to work out the kinks before unlocking... wait a minute, then why is the S3 locked?? I dont know.. Could he be lying to me?

Dear Mr. Brandon Spencer.

I appreciate you taking the time to speak with me in regards to your concerns with the HTC Incredible 4G bootloader capabilities. As we discussed, this has been a concern that has been brought to our attention here at Verizon Wireless and it’s a situation that is being monitored closely as it is a concern shared by many customers and some employees who desire the capability to alter the functionally of their device.

You are already aware that you can check for the bootloader release on HTCDEV.com. As per our conversation, I shared with you my communication with HTC in regards to their reservations for not releasing a bootloader for the HTC Incredible 4G. As a result, the HTC Incredible 4G currently has various software glitches that need to be fixed before the bootloader will be released. A pre-release of the bootloader before the operating system glitches are minimized could do more harm to the device and HTC would like to minimize the potential of completely crippling the operating system, and do their due diligence to their customers to ensure a completely satisfactory product.

You patience is greatly appreciated and as I said, if I find out any information about a bootloader release for your device, I will be more than happy to inform you.

Best Regards,

Christopher Espinoza

West Area Executive Office

Desk: 949-286-1198

Hours: Monday – Friday 9:30am-6:30pm
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceDragon59:
That sounds like the biggest load of bull I've ever heard. We have several people who are unlocked and not having any problems with it.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
Sounds like they want to push an UPDATE to me!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Abstract_A:
Sounds like different stories across the board. I was told Verizon will not unlock the bootloader.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] OldNut5:
I was told that too.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] addictedhacks:
Did you guys let them punk you? At that point you should of started talking AT&T...

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If I was told that I would have let them have it and it wouldn't have been pretty.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Abstract_A:
I said I was switching they didn't seem to care.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
samr here, would cost me $900 to break contract
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] edster00:
I finally spoke with the guy who called me. I got pretty much the same story...they want to control the software for "the user experience". He said (among other things) that Verizon was worried that customers would try to unlock the boot loader or flash a rom and brick the phone. I pointed out the warnings on the HTCDEV site about voiding warranty and that users did it at their own risk. I pointed out (among many other things) that every dev/team who put out a rom have warnings that you could brick the device, to do so at the users own risk. I then said that worst caseif I (or others) bricked the phone they would end up buying another device from Verizon which would be good for Verizon and HTCs sales.

Final word was that he would pass my opinions on and that at some point they were bound to allow HTC to put the unlock tool back up...he did not deny Verizon caused HTC to take it down.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] tjamscad:
Still no response from Big Red for me. I must be black listed.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
Me too
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Newt:
When they release this they'll unlock it

http://geekchunk.com/news/htc-dlx-quad-core-android-phone-with-1080p-hd-display-review/
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
when do ya figure they'll release it, cuz i'm at the end of my rope!!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Newt:
Says Sept Oct... But I'm turning my new rezound on and throwing this thing in the drawer until root comes and if it don't unlock it by November then I'm off to Sprint soon... A locked phone is boring as hell to me
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
well, me too, been thinking about going back to my dnc2, or switching to sprint as you say, don't know what to do?? Hell i'm 65 yrs old, patience on me is about gone, i don't have months to wait to do what i want to do, if you know what i mean.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] edster00:
I've been using my Dinc2 more and more when within WiFi range while waiting for root for the Dinc4G. I can read the screen better with my Dinc2 (I'm 64!).
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] tjamscad:
That's not right. Forced into old technology because of not being supported by the people we pay for support.

I was set on the Rezound until this came out.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] OldNut5:
Shared this with my Facebook friends.

I shared this with my Facebook Friends. Hopefully that helps.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] tjamscad:
This should get a reply,

To whom it may concern;

I am a disappointed owner of the HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE. It is a beautiful device with powerful potential. It has however been chocked up with useless apps and unfinished software. I only received this phone as a gift/trade to my brother who preferred my HTC Droid Incredible over this one. I can see why as the HTC Droid Incredible is unlockabale and more than capable of being more than it was when released.

The HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE has the potential to be an excellent platform for development. I consider the ability to modify the software running on the phone to be an essential feature. The current inability of the Droid Incredible 4G LTE to accept custom firmware is already dissuading some from purchasing this phone, and even causing others to consider returning devices that they have recently bought. Or in my case switching to other carriers that still offer unlimited data plans and unlocked bootloaders. IE. Sprint, Tmobile...

Once I received the Droid Incredible 4G LTE I started noticing the fit and finish of the software to less than acceptable. HTC has built a solid platform with the Incredible line and HTC CEO and President Peter Chou promised that all HTC Android devices launched after September 2011 can have their bootloaders unlocked if the owner chooses to do so. I am, asking for that promise to be fulfilled. Not only for me loyal customer since 2001 and reason my family and friends have joined Verizon but for everyone that has the right to modify or tear apart a product they own. It is my phone and I am only using your cell and data network including partners.

Please reconsider the locking of the bootloaded on the Droid Incredible 4G LTE. I as well as anyone with the brain power to unlock their Droid Incredible 4G LTE know the risks of this. HTC and Verizon will be supporting open hardware and software, the way it was meant to be. Please respect our freedom to do what we want with our devices.

Please allow the bootloader unlock.

Sincerely,

$190.00 /month that you count on.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
i've sent 3 to verizon, a whole bunch to htc, no replies from vz. 2 from htc and then they quit.They don't give a s**t for us, just their profits!!!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] tjamscad:
Received the same crap letter as everyone else today. Will be calling tomorrow.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceDragon59:
Anybody got anything new to update about? Nothing I've done since I got that call a few weeks ago has warranted any response.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Hesacon:
Twitter and Facebook feedback may help too. I tried but didn't get any feedback from them.

@htcdev

@htc

@VerizonWireless

facebook dot com/verizon

facebook dot com/HTC

(Can't post links yet, account too new - I signed up to follow rooting progress for my new phone.)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] CaptainRewind:
Heh yeah I've been tweeting nearly everyday. Good luck.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Newt:
Looks like this device is going to die before it gets the chance to live... If we can't unlock be the end of October ill have mine for sell if anyone wants it... I only used it 3 days before turning my rezound back on... Hope VZW changes their mind I'd like to do a few things for this device
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
i'll be in the nut house by the end of october.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] addictedhacks:
+1
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceDragon59:
I certainly hope not. This has been a ridiculous wait, though. I couldn't ever go back to my old single-core, 512MB RAM phone, with nothing completely stable after Gingebread, after having used this for a couple months, and I certainly can't afford to buy a new phone outright. I'm with this phone for the duration, however long it takes for us to get root, but damn, I hope it's soon.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
you and me both!!!!!!!!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] andybones:
Don't worry guys, I can say with 100% certainty that we are being looked after and ppl are working hard to get us temp-root/S-OFF.

we will have S-OFF

VERY

soon after temp-root is achieved OR we get htc-dev unlock back, so I highly have to disagree with NEWT.

The Rezound had the same thing happen to it, but had to wait 6 months before s-off was even being looked into for the Rezound.

Patience is a virtue guys. I know it sucks seeing others having root, but trust me it's worth the wait.

Please hang in there guys, this is a great community with unlimited potential.

if you want a phone that isn't a phablet, and is HTC this is the one.

I'm working with dmeadows to get AOSP, once it's booted, he will have RIL and everything else goin for us.

..good things are coming.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] DavDoc:
Couldn't agree more..... I am also in for the long hall.

Sent using a DINC4G
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
agreed

the rezound looked doa for months, and hundreds of root users ditched it for the gnex after a month or two...and it turned out ok

yes the dlx (or inc x or whatever its called) is looming, but whats to say that history doesnt repeat itself and say....that launches, is locked down and the inc 4g gets dev unlock support :fingers-crossed:

im not putting the dlx down at all, as i plan to get that too (assuming it can be unlocked, if not ill hold out) and support both phones...but spreading FUD doesnt help anyone

but fwiw, there wont be waiting for roms when dev unlock support or s off or w/e is available as we have them already :highfive: (and aosp will probably be ready to go by then as well)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] squeezyb:
I am just glad that good developers are looking out for this phone, and that we have some people trying to get root. Check this site everyday in hopes of a breakthrough. Became a habit with the Tbolt. Hopefully we will have root soon!

Keep up the good work guys
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] junkmail9:
Good reminder that Patience is a Virtue. Not always easy to remember.

I am in the same boat as most - won't be buying anything else for a while. However, if I'm stuck with an unrooted phone (for now), this one isn't so bad. At least we can disable the bloat, and its fast with very good battery life. And it's not a Phablet! But... the Viper ROM looks sooo good.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceDragon59:
Yes, it does.

I don't think there was ever an as-complete custom ROM in the 2 years I had my original Incredible. Most developers started something and then gave up after a few bug fixes, if they ever even got around to fixing the bugs. Even themed ROMs with tweaks like Viper ROM were usually abandoned quickly for whatever reason.

It's odd, though, that to still see that people see in the thread title that a ROM hasn't been updated in a year or more, then they go download the ROM, have a problem, and ask a question or complain, assuming they'll actually be helped, without ever reading that other people had the problem and that's why they stopped using the ROM or realize until it's too late that the ROM hasn't been updated in over a year. Maybe that's why they found it on page 6...

Sorry, enough ranting. I'm just glad we have a badass ROM already 99% and most of us don't even have root yet. Patience may be a virtue, but it's not one that I'm very acquainted with. Come on, root!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
we plan on supporting viper rom for a long time (as long as possible) :cyclops:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceDragon59:
I appreciate that. It's also good that it's a collaborative effort, as with the original Incredible there would be one person making the ROM and if he got pissed or busy or just didn't care anymore, he'd up and leave. I'd prefer a significantly fewer selection of ROMs if they quality is significantly higher like this one. :)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] junkmail9:
Same here. I started out trying multiple ROMs, but always came back to Skyraider it was the most stable that I found and was decent on battery. A few of the ROMs killed my battery in a few hours. Eventually, I stopped trying anything new and ended up with Skyraider 4.3 as my daily driver and never bothered with Gingerbread or any other new stuff. It worked very well for me until I upgraded to the 4g.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] andybones:
thanks man, as Justin said, we plan on keeping this ROM up-to-date for a long time.

(take a look at Justin's history with updating his ROMs when he moves onto another device!)

I know it's hard waiting for root, but it will be worth the wait :)

personally if I had a inc4 without root, or if I had to get a refurb and didnt have root until it's back, I would use my inc2 until roots back.

but at least can de-bloat with out being rooted, that's the only good thing I can say :(

but root is still being worked on for us, unfortunately they method posted for "most android phones" same exploit that was used to get the EvoLTE 4g unlocked and now s-off, this was thought to of been to work on our phone but I tested with them for a while and that exploit is blocked on our phone :(.

so, new things are being worked on, and we have the best working on it for us :)

also, once we have htc-dev-unlock back, or they find a root/ temp-root exploit, S-OFF will come, right after that.

no 6 month wait like Rezound ;)

wish I had more info but I hope everyone stays with us, this is a great community and everyone here counts!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] ohredwood:
Sure would be great if VZ would give the green light on unlocking this mother, say day after tomorrow after the Crapple 5 gets dumped in stores. :rolleyes:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] andybones:
man would that be nice.

hopefully it's at least soon after this dumb 5 phone.

it took apple how many tries to larger their screen?

lol, and whats this new phone have bigger screen, newer processor, that's what ppl are going nuts about? lol

crapple fan boys ahh

sucks though apple has ruined so many good things that made VZW stand away from the others.

30 day phone return, now 15.

1 year upgrade, now only two years.

no more unlimited (as of recent)

and just because, I'm blaming them for the inc4 being locked. hahah
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] CaptainRewind:
Thanks to everyone staying on top of the cause for root. I've tried every method I can find that work on other devices, and even a few that people posted in this forum that I knew were longshots before even trying.

I'm no eMMC expert, but I have some thoughts on why temp-root or dev-unlock would be needed before S-Off can be achieved. temp-root requires an exploit inside Linux OS (all of the known ones are locked up tight on this device), or dev unlock would give us the ability to write su to /system and get root. Then we could use that to write to other partitions. I'm thinking somebody out there has probably been testing against an already-unlocked device, and is waiting to publish results until we have a known root method or dev-unlock for all who want it.

Anyways, hats off to andybones for sticking with it.

As for the original topic of this thread... I'm still posting tweets to Verizon nearly everyday. I don't know if it's putting any pressure on them, though. If they don't allow unlock after the iPhone 5, I was thinking I'd write a quickie shell script to leverage Twitter API's and put it in my crontab, so I could post Tweets more frequently and regularly.

Would anyone be interested in such a script? It would be shell script, executable on Linux or Mac (running Intel processor)... I'm sure somebody could figure out same for Windoze. The Twitter APIs are really easy to use.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] PhillyCheez:
k... getting bored. neeed root.

Thanks to the devs who are still working on it though!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceDragon59:
I'm so tired of seeing that every day. Someone convince Verizon to let us unlock! :(
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
yeah, C'MON MAN!!!!!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] squeezyb:
i concur.

come on verizon.. wtf...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] tjamscad:
I have recived a letter and an email from Scott H at VZW, still no feed back just the generic note. I have called and left messages but who is really going to call a grumpy customer back. I have no option VZW is all that has signal in rual area's.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mdmower:
I contacted HTC with a new shorter e-mail and actually received a non-canned response. This wasn't an e-mail promising change mind you, but it was refreshing to read something new.

Note: I wrote 'inexplicably' because HTC never officially confirmed that Verizon was behind the removal of the Inc4G from the bootloader unlock program. I understand that it is generally agreed upon that Verizon is responsible.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Hesacon:
It always amazes me how people can say so much and say exactly nothing.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] tjamscad:
VZW Response

Here is what i Got from VZW. I talked to Scott today and he offered me a different device saying that the letter states VZW's stance on the bootloader being unlocked. He actually started the offer with a Galaxy S3 and I said Rezound if I was going to do that. It was for a certified used device with cover and battery. He said my plan and everything would stay the same. He gave me until Friday for the offer.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Method320:
I can't see what's attached...?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
click on it it will expand
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] IceDragon59:
The XDA 2013 Theme doesn't always display the attached thumbnails. Try 2010.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] tjamscad:
Response from HTC

Dear -----------------,

I understand that you would like information about unlocking the bootloader on your Incredible 4G LTE. I will be happy to share the information I have with you. HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I apologize for any inconvenience, ----------------. Have a great night!

Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.

To send a reply to this message, please click here.

Sincerely,

Jauna

HTC
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] tjamscad:
my latest attack has been on the VZW review page for the phone, it is never sells because people know right from the start that it is locked VZW will loose even more on this phone.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
they don't care!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY'LL use this phone near the holidays to gain contract extentions at list it for free or 30 bucks or something like that.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] PhillyCheez:
Hmm... Doesn't sound like Verizon is gonna budge. Fack!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] liongood9:
change.org petition

What you can try is start a petition at change.org.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Aldo101t:
we did!!!!!!!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fluxcore:
Is there any possabality of a fix for GPS .

Is the battery life as good as ICS .

Are the WiFi problems fixed ?

I would realy like to install paranoide but I realy like a working gps .
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hammer of thor:
tbh. i don't think it is worth it... video playback with hardware decode is hampered... there is a build up of ram over time and no task killers would free it up, but after a restart it is very very laggy and slow for a minute... it takes up more resources and it is not LIGHTER than ics for ram atleast.... but it does have a smoother feel and the things that usually lag, do not lag as much... i think wifi hot spot also does not work... there are still issues... nexus 7.7 was the fastest for me but i didn't like the UI... i don't feel the battery life is as good as ics aswell.... but that is just me as i have like 8 homescreens with millions of widgets along with live wallpapers...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hillzx:
GPS is working on paranoid :D
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sjsk:
confirm wifi hotspot not working for me. Really wanted to try this but had to uninstall.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] edan1979:
it is a known problem in cm build that wifi hotspot is not working... and still got a leaking ram issue...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] bluelink77:
Hey there XDA, got a question for ya.

I've had my AT&T S3 for a while now and I love the phone a lot, the only thing that is plaguing me is the battery life.

Now for a phone with dual core processors, a nice Super AMOLED screen that runs at 720, all the connections that you'd ever want, I expect it to use some battery life, but I feel like I should be doing better than I should.

When I'm browsing the internet or reddit I can watch the percentage just slowly crawl down. Within 30 min or so I've gone through 7-8% I want to say. Not 100% sure, but the numbers have been enough to make me concerned.

Currently I am running Diet ICS 08.08.12 with no major modifications other than the apps I use and Apex Launcher.

I've got my BetterBatteryStats dump and a screenshots of the battery page from System from last night. I'm attempting to use Juice Defender today (I've tried it in the past and it did alright) as well as Samgsung's battery saving mode (which seems to prevent the processor from going over 1.0 Ghz), which as of right now I'm at 36%. I feel like I can do better than that ;)

So, thoughts? Opinions?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mdg071191:
What kernel are you running?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] bluelink77:
I don't think Diet ICS swapped kernels, so stock as far as I'm concerned.