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[HTC EVO 3D] troyboytn:
You are completely correct. HTC has made so many steps backward away from the development community that I for one will be choosing that "highway" option for sure.

I love, love, love the "look" of the new HTC One, but at the end of the day....it's still a locked down HTC phone that will come with these features....

1. extremely unfriendly to the developer community

a. ridiculous locked bootloader unlock method

b. obnoxiously late kernel source (usually 2-3 months "after" device release

and updates) which btw is unlawful

c. proprietary driver code which HTC refuses to release...ie... 3d drivers, etc

2. HTC's own "lazy coding"...ie... the lack of properly integrated "ion" memory

drivers

3. disgustingly late OS updates, sometimes months behind announced schedule

4. HTC devices may be built with better material but build quality has always

left plenty to be desired

5. no external storage and non-removable battery (even though HTC is certainly

NO champion of battery life....not even close).btw, I would be ok with a

3300ma non-removable battery such as included in some Moto phones

6. How many more times are they going to rearrange the damn capacitive buttons?!!! Really?

Maybe they feel that next time, they will put them on the top of the phone to change

things up a bit....maybe the right or left side even....

In conclusion, HTC has fooled me 3 times now...shame on me, but I am smart enough NOT to be fooled a 4th time.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Here's a little music to go with that. ;)

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] troyboytn:
lol. ramjet, your'e pretty awesome! How'd you know i love that song? hehe
[HTC EVO 3D] coal686:
C. It would be nice if they released 3D driver source so we could get a working 3d cam in Sense 4 and AOSP.

2. If you decompile one of their skins, you'll find multiple copies of png files like the lock ring. Only one is the image the skin uses, the rest are useless. They also use 9 png and repeating 9 png files hidden in hard to decompile m10 files to make theming harder.
[HTC EVO 3D] raptoro07:
I guess you could say that he just needed a little "Sense" knocked into him.
[HTC EVO 3D] virus18:
the next update will not be evo 3D for jb
[HTC EVO 3D] beneath-a-burning-turtle:
It's threads like these that really make me miss my 3D, but I'm loving my Arrive so it's not a total loss ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] rp56:
Nazism v7
[HTC EVO 3D] coal686:
I was wondering where you've been. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] beneath-a-burning-turtle:
Good to know people still acknowledge me lol, soon enough I'll be back, better than ever :good::good:
[HTC EVO 3D] VictoriousShooter:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2178042
[HTC EVO 3D] miniadu3:
But I'm already on 4.2.2 because of this forum :P
[HTC EVO 3D] youdug:
A so-called developer has it, but its not released, nor will it ever be on xda.
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
Thank god I follow there too. But I thought it was just sense 4.1 and not necessarily jelly bean. Either way... Let's not discuss it here. Don't wanna get everyone's panties in a bunch.
[HTC EVO 3D] `Ghost`:
Oh? Wheres your proof? (and please refrain from posting past experiences or htc's financial situation)

That site said maybe. and thats from a semi reputible source. you? well youre a great person here on XDA but your words hold little merrit in regards to this situation. Most likely you will be correct but atleast show a bit of enthusiasm
[HTC EVO 3D] PyroJing:
I'll believe it when I see it, but I won't be holding my breath. Would be great to see Jelly Bean on the EVO 3D. I already have most of the Jelly Bean features anyway though except the better notifications.
[HTC EVO 3D] quy1403:
Great, wait for JB!
[HTC EVO 3D] Jsparta26:
I personally don't care if HTC and sprint release a jellybean ota for our evo 3ds. I think sense sucks. No offense. I like the aosp versions better. Agrabren and his crew have been brewing up some jellybean roms for the evo 3d. Its still early in their development but they show a lot of promise. Go check them out in the Cdma and GSM dev threads. They are really awesome.
[HTC EVO 3D] quy1403:
hope and wait~!
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
There will be a 4.1 sense rom available soon, it's beta version now, cdma only so far. Just wait and be patient

sent on my Evil Evo with no reboots, that's because I am running the kernel that's not available on xda
[HTC EVO 3D] edanmech:
he is right as I have tried both unicorn and chubbz 4.1 sense
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
Lucky you, I have a gsm evo so I guess I am just going to have to wait for a port hopefully:(

sent on my Evil Evo with no reboots, that's because I am running the kernel that's not available on xda
[HTC EVO 3D] tomcat420m:
If true, I wouldn't expect it anytime soon at all. Sprint just sucks a$$ on releasing updates. We won't get till well after key lime. closer to what comes out after key lime. I hope they will prove me wrong. Just my two cents.

From my Swagged Out 3VO using XParent Blue Tapatalk
[HTC EVO 3D] andrew378:
I agree. Then again, we'd probably have some Key Lime Pie ports by then as well. Haha.

Receiving new updates in a timely manner, or receiving them at all, is one of the reasons I've thought about the Nexus phones, but then again, you gotta love our 3D's!
[HTC EVO 3D] jopis:
Cant wait. But tnx on info:good:
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
Venom has released a 4.1 ics rom for the sensation

sent on my Evil Evo running the so called developers kernel
[HTC EVO 3D] andrea210701:
Is difficultosy TO have jb evo 3d for 3d driver

Inviato dal mio LG-P500 con Tapatalk 2
[HTC EVO 3D] rafaelluik:
People it's true!!! HTC EVO 3D will receive Android 4.1 Jelly Bean and and the latest Sense 4.1. HTC released an *official video* showing the phones notice how gorgeous the EVO 3D UI looks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM
[HTC EVO 3D] VictoriousShooter:
1st error: sense 4.1 is android 4.0.4, sense 4.5 is jellybean
[HTC EVO 3D] mister363:
Fake!!!!

:mad:

Inviato dal mio HTC EVO 3D X515m con Tapatalk 2
[HTC EVO 3D] kickyoace:
Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] S70RM3R:
I'll believe it when I see it. But thanks for the info anyway
[HTC EVO 3D] niks_bg:
Unable to get an update soon, but we all hope :confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] Lothaen:
HTC tweeted me the other day saying they are assessing other non-One series phones for JB.

I think it would be a mistake to leave off Sensation and thus 3D from this update, as Sensation was the previous flagship device. But I would say the JB will almost certainly be the last if it does get an update.

Oh and JB update probably won't come out for months or so anyway... :p
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
I think I'm going nexus only from my next upgrade on. tired of the guessing and waiting.
[HTC EVO 3D] lhayati:
What you guys don't realise is that JB is quite similar to ICS while it was a big upgrade from GB to ICS, which would mean it's easier for HTC to update :P
[HTC EVO 3D] Rage1ofakind:
We'll get JB, late though. As Ihayati said, ICS to JB is minor compared to GB to ICS. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
Yes, jb is a minor update by comparison but there's money being spent to develop and test for both sprint and HTC on a phone that's been eol. The way the ics update went lost my confidence in updates.
[HTC EVO 3D] Z23:
They sure will find a matter why JB does not provide the best customer experience for Evo3D users...
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
Already got sense 4.1 on my evo gsm, it's not jb as sense4 is ics, it's available as a flashable rom
[HTC EVO 3D] eagleeyetom:
Please, do not spread false information. It isn't officially confirmed.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jsparta26:
Who cares if Htc releases a Jellybean update. Yes it would be nice but I wouldn't hold my breath on it. Besides, Jellybean looks way better stock than with sense. (My personal opnion)
[HTC EVO 3D] klanistok:
i want to flash JB, but pls can u give me some reasons why u think is better without sens?
[HTC EVO 3D] Belatis:
It is based on an opinion

I believe Evo 3D without sense is the way to go, too. Had CM 9 from agrabren running on my device and hell, what a beast. I just love stock and pure android. I don't want any "eye candy" or so. Jelly Bean looks promising, too.

One likes sense/UI from the manufacturer and others don't. It depends on ones opinion/likings.
[HTC EVO 3D] rafaelluik:
I like HTC Sense and I think it's more than just eyecandy.
[HTC EVO 3D] xblackvalorx:
You guys are all idiots. Do any of you guys have any idea how easy it is to build a rom for a phone when you have every last bit of source, and info you need for the device? 4.1 is a maintenance upgrade to android. Ninety percent of ics devices will be upgraded to jb
[HTC EVO 3D] Nickdroid86:
Couldn't be further from the truth in every aspect. Won't even entertain a debate with that lol.

Sent from 4.52 inches of T989

Thank me just because I'm awesome.
[HTC EVO 3D] xblackvalorx:
4.1 isn't even the latest lol

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Yea? Bet me bud.
[HTC EVO 3D] rafaelluik:
Of course, I believe you. But EVO 3D is originally a Gingerbread, not an ICS device. HTC must be VERY generous to develop an update to a phone which isn't even being manufactured anymore.
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
Man, do your research b4 you call anybody an idiot, when you assume you make An Azz of Ur self .
[HTC EVO 3D] xblackvalorx:
I went through reading these exact same comments when I said the same thing about froyo and gb. So. K.
[HTC EVO 3D] Nickdroid86:
Lol bet you? *EVEN IF* you were right, you're still an ignorant prick

Sent from 4.52 inches of T989

Thank me just because I'm awesome.
[HTC EVO 3D] xblackvalorx:
All I'm saying is, is if HTC says we'll get it, we most likely will. Now, considering it's HTC Russia, maybe only gsm devices will get it, at best we'll wait absolute ages, but HTC typically doesn't outright lie.
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
Huh? If HTC says we'll get it we most likely will? Isn't that redundant? In that case, they outright said we'd get it so yes we will.

However, I have noticed the only evidence that we are getting jb is this thread and frankly, I done think it holds up. I'll remain skeptical until HTC makes an official announcement.
[HTC EVO 3D] Trina9:
Source?

I will doubt that we will ever see it pushed to Sprint if it happens.
[HTC EVO 3D] Martyx23:
I don't expect anything from htc, so I can only be surprised;)

Odesláno z mého HTC EVO 3D X515m pomocí Tapatalk 2
[HTC EVO 3D] tanvir1987:
2D camera works 4 me...
[HTC EVO 3D] thanhly179:
Good news for HTC EVO 3D users :victory: ICS is not the end of EVO 3D :victory:
[HTC EVO 3D] Lothaen:
Huh?
[HTC EVO 3D] PlayPetepp:
:what:

-. typewrited .-
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
We should be grateful we have a port of jb, let alone official source code, remember this phone is over a year old in the UK , probably 15 months for cdma users,

If it ain't broke, why should HTC fix it ?

On that note, I know ics is a little buggy, but it is stable

Just saying
[HTC EVO 3D] Jsparta26:
I dont know why people are getting so worked up over jellybean. There's no need to name call anybody even if they deserve it. Besides like he said, we are lucky to have a working jb rom right now from Mazda. Show some damn appreciation for our devs who are putting hard work into it.

The majority of devs reside on xda and if we didn't have them, we all would be sitting there with our thumbs up our asses with lame stock roms and no enhancements. It would be nice to have an official ota of jellybean, but Im not going to let the wait for one be my overwhelming obsession. Go try out jb rom that Mazda has been working on in the dev section of cdma.
[HTC EVO 3D] johnnyboi1994:
paranoid android as well. has working everything except 3d. jb doesnt have cam and blue tooth but its legit
[HTC EVO 3D] thehiendtvt:
Great! My Evo 3D appears in list.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jsparta26:
Hell yeah its legit. Mazda is the only one actively working on jb right now.Ogrnimenella was working on his roms until he got all his threads locked up and now nobody can download any cm9 pae roms. Once Mazda gets camera working on his jb Rom, its going to be my daily driver.
[HTC EVO 3D] posedatull:
somehow I have more faith in the xda devs to give us a fully working jb faster than the official one... htc takes too long to give us the new updates
[HTC EVO 3D] Lothaen:
CDMA are you talking about?
[HTC EVO 3D] Jsparta26:
Really? Are we idiots? If its so easy programming a Rom even with the source code, by all means please go right ahead and make your own Rom and show us how easy it is to get 4g, 3d and everything else working and please, school our expert devs on how you easily fixed what devs have been working on for months. Then school the rest of the community on here on how easy it is genius. Before you come on here with your foot in your mouth making a bold claim like that. We don't need people like you trying to pretend you the best around here. There is no best dev. All of them are good at what they do and they are kind enough to share and teach the users, helping each other and making our phones pure awesome. If you don't want to be a part of that, you can just delete yourself. We don't need ignorance, or self entitled people here.
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
I mean no disrespect, but I think his point was that it would be easy for HTC to do the update because they have every bit of source code... At least I hope that's his point. Only an idiot would say it's easy for our devs considering it hasn't been fully functional yet...

But regardless of how easy it might be for HTC, it would still cost money to develop, test, add carrier bloat, test again, etc. Other than improving their image for supporting their devices, there's no incentive to update our phone. And when key lime pie releases this fall (according to rumors), we'll demand that too.

I'm holding doubts, but would be grateful if it came.
[HTC EVO 3D] carlos1984:
the sony nexus was a hoax but I did hear of the lg nexus, just google it
[HTC EVO 3D] raptoro07:
My evo 3d is running JB. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Cilinyar:
I hope they do release JB for the EVO3D. Unfortunately I don't have the money to upgrade to the 4GLTE and probably won't have the extra money when the next EVO/HTC is released with Sprint.
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
You know... I kept reading how bloated sense is... But I didn't realize how much until I have CM10 a shot this week. It's still a work in progress but I don't think I'm ever going back to sense again. I have jb now, not waiting for HTC.

It is on goo.im but like I said, agraben is still working out the bugs.
[HTC EVO 3D] shafter09:
How
[HTC EVO 3D] XandroidX:
Hopefully, as a security measure we will be updated to 4.2 because I read you can scan sideload apps for security threats
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
Sorry for the delay in responding. There's a thread in gsm and general about it. It can be found for both gsm and CDMA on goomanager app
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
Never mind jb 4.1 running some 4.2 JB apps as we speak on a jb rom

( Don't ask me for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh! :D)
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
Here some new officialy info about JB. http://www.htc.com/www/help/android41faq/

Maybe we have a luck :)
[HTC EVO 3D] rafaelluik:
I think we may probably get it... I don't live in US but seeing how the market works there I bet it might depend on Virgin Mobile though, you know, they launched HTC EVO 3D recently (renamed as HTC EVO V 4G) and their interest on updating it or not would rule...

So start flooding Virgin Mobile with messages about wanting the beloved update right now!!! :)

Do we have any chance it'll be 4.2? Because it's still "Jelly Bean"... hehe

A little worry still comes to my mind though, we'd have to give up the possibility of using Flash player completely in order to update, this will leave us with no option to check something available in Flash only on our phones.
[HTC EVO 3D] Lothaen:
since they said that 4.1 will include sense 4+ I doubt any devices will see it apart from the One line

they already said they didnt want to upgrade 3.6 to sense 4 as it changes the UX too much

why would they then jump to 4+

unless they give up about the UX and just want to concentrate on one version of sense (makes more sense to me than multiple) then I doubt we'll ever see an upgrade with that caveat
[HTC EVO 3D] rafaelluik:
I think there never was once version of sense. HTC Rhyme (and other models) had that modified version, there have been models with 3.0, 3.5, 3.6... All different versions...

And even the one line and the new Desires have differences, Sense 4.x and Sense 4.x "lite" (the one on One V and Desire C)...

They said they wouldn't deliver Sense 4.0 to the devices because some features were dependent on hardware (looks like an excuse only), well they now may change their mind and adapt it. Or we'd get Android 4.1 with adapted Sense 3.6 who knows.

But IMO, for our model, all that "backwards" work will only happen if an operator currently having the device (like Virgin Mobile) will pay it (or has a contract with HTC for this update).
[HTC EVO 3D] ackNalej:
Even if 4.1 did come to 3VO officially, now that I've recently gone rooted, I can't see myself ever going back to stock roms.
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
For me best and stable rom is stock officialy rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] RayTrue04:
I'm hoping since Samsung is working hard on Sprint's GS2 jellybean update maybe it'll make HTC consider doing the same for my 3D. Or at least Sprint demand them to do so.. I'm sure the 3D can handle it with no issues and technically it's still under goggles 18 months update timeline. Would be nice if Sprint released rdf files like they do for Samsung phones. At least we'd know if it's being worked on :banghead:
[HTC EVO 3D] Lothaen:
Stock, deodexed and rooted for me :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
yep same for me..heheh..rooted deodexed with leedroid tweaks..
[HTC EVO 3D] rafaelluik:
I take back what I said, HTC DROID DNA has working Flash player on Jelly Bean! :)
[HTC EVO 3D] unstoppable_punk_brainiac:
Oh, i really hope they will do an JB update... I would just loveee to use that Google Now.

But i don't see people asking htc for JB like they did with ICS, back then, every page of htc was filled with requests and complanins...

Or is it just me?
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
The way they handled the ics update, I think most people lost faith anything further would be pushed out. At least I did. Plus a lot of people who pushed it seem to have moves on to another device.

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No one ever said it wouldn't work. Adobe just decided to drop support and development as of jb. Browsers on the OS aren't allowing it anymore either with few exceptions.
[HTC EVO 3D] unstoppable_punk_brainiac:
Any news or leaks or something about JB?
[HTC EVO 3D] rafaelluik:
Are you contacting HTC asking about it?

The answer is being the same, at the moment, just look at JB FAQ at HTC's website support. 2012 devices prioritized over 2011 ones on evaluation if they'll receive the JB update.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jsparta26:
Well I got tired of waiting around for HTC to decide whether or not they want to work on a sense jb release so I flashed aokp jb rom. Sense is a preference a lot of you all share but I could care less.
[HTC EVO 3D] RayTrue04:
I just wrote HTC a nice long email about jellybean for my 3D. (Big ole rant). After submitting it, it said I'll be contacted soon. Yeah ok I won't hold my breath lol
[HTC EVO 3D] RayTrue04:
Lol they wrote back saying they're still in testing with jellybean and deciding what phones to update. And how some phones will be better off at their current version and they don't want to screw up the user experience. They also said the carriers have a big say over the update. Maybe sprint isn't pushing them for it :(
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
They're just reiterating what they had already announced. They're going to focus on their newer phones first.
[HTC EVO 3D] unstoppable_punk_brainiac:
At the rate they announce new phones..... It will be a looooong wait for JB for 2011 phones.

And remember, there are versions for every diferent carier, USA , Europe, Japan , different models .... They are back were they were last year. Releasing 10 phones in 50 diferent versions.

Edit: example http://www.appy-geek.com/Web/ArticleWeb.aspx?regionid=3&articleid=5458912
[HTC EVO 3D] snokarver:
How's the camera work with that?
[HTC EVO 3D] unstoppable_punk_brainiac:
HTC Jelly Bean Update List Gets Leaked

http://www.appy-geek.com/Web/ArticleWeb.aspx?regionid=3&articleid=5545539

If this is true, then we wont see official JB on our phone
[HTC EVO 3D] VictoriousShooter:
Dafuq is HTC j?
[HTC EVO 3D] unstoppable_punk_brainiac:
Is the J Butterfly, also known as Droid DNA, but is made for Japan
[HTC EVO 3D] sammy518:
Big fan of jelly bean, just had too many issues.
[HTC EVO 3D] antu_pogroms:
unfortunately, NO JB for EVO 3D. @Football4PDA is know for its reliable source of information. google.

source
[HTC EVO 3D] unstoppable_punk_brainiac:
I dont belive people that say this sort of things on twitter. And he didn't even give an good aswere.

I can give an aswere like his , look .

" i won't get jb for G1 ". :)))
[HTC EVO 3D] dido_23:
:):good:
[HTC EVO 3D] antu_pogroms:
Note: For those who don't know, @Football4PDA is a well known HTC developer, who revealed details in early October of the just seen in the wild HTC Incredible Droid X (The International version of the J Butterfly)
[HTC EVO 3D] unstoppable_punk_brainiac:
Emm, sorry then, i tought it was just a random guy.

Anyway, didn't htc said that will make the 2011 device list of phones to get jb? Or it wasn't an official statement?
[HTC EVO 3D] rafaelluik:
If that's true it's pretty lame because S2 will get it.

People I sent messages to HTC and Virgin Mobile even with the "limitations" imposed by living in Brazil and having a pre-paid EVO 3D, but I can't make this alone, please contact them, contact Sprint... Let's try to make JB on EVO 3D happen.
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
I think they said they would get 2012 phones on jb and evaluate any others. I think it's really more like if they have time older ones will get it.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Time is money when you are developing hardware and software for the mobile phone market and HTC doesn't have a lot of that. Don't hold your breathe for an official release of Jelly Bean on the Evo 3D because it isn't going to happen.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] MaartenXDA:
Hey man, you missed the HTC Desire X, will probably get the update, has almost the same specs as Desire V, it has 768 MB of RAM, and was released in 2012, oktober(not sure), so I'm pretty sure it will get the update.

Sent from my awesome fridge
[HTC EVO 3D] rafaelluik:
Don't forget to ask!!

Contact the companies asking for the update! after all it's POSSIBLE (phones like Sony xperia J will be getting it), so why not trying?

Ask Virgin Mobile for Android Jelly Bean update to HTC EVO V 4G (their EVO 3D version): https://www1.virginmobileusa.com/about/prepareEmailUs.do

Contact Sprint telling how much you'd like the update: https://mysprint.sprint.com/mysprint/jsp/landingPage/contactus.jsp

Tell HTC: http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email/
[HTC EVO 3D] phonehunter59:
But sony doesn't add hundreds of megabytes of manufacturer skin over android, so the processor probably won't handle it on the 3d unless they stick with sense 3.6 which is stupid or they go full on stock jellybean or a slightly modded version of it
[HTC EVO 3D] dstrcto:
Pretty sure our phones won't get it, we even get ignored by "official" groups like CM and AOKP, haha
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
That's one situation where it's nice to be ignored. Since there's no official version of CM or AOKP for the Evo 3D the developers here can port it for us without worrying about stepping on anyone's toes or having to wait for approval from the bureaucracy.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] rafaelluik:
It's not stupid, we would still get the new features, under the hood improvementes, software compatibility...

And I don't know if Sony's Timescape is really that lightweight... And we could get Sense 4.1 as the other phones, I see no problems...
[HTC EVO 3D] dstrcto:
Very true. You guys are def on the ball, thanks for that.