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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jarnow94:
Why does the jury have to know anything about patent law to be a valid jury? They're not lawyers... in fact, their initial lack of knowledge on patents probably made them a less biased jury to begin with.

But I don't agree with the verdict at all.

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The only people that will gain from this verdict will be Apple executives. The consumers and the entire mobile phone industry will get screwed over; innovation will be stifled, competitiveness eliminated, and prices gouged.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] El Nivek:
Technically they paid for the verdict after years of Apple advertising. Apple is ingrained in the public's minds like Kleenex and Windex. If you were to pick a jury from other countries, you'd get a very different verdict.

I also believe that while Samsung may have stolen some ideas, a billion dollar fine is flat out ridiculous.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ruskiyab:
Exactly what innovation will be prevented? if anything, it will be better. instead of Samsung trying to make their devices look like Apple's, they will have to think a little harder to come up with something of their own. HTC, Motorola, and LG could do it, Samsung can too.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] freecharlesmanson:
Although it looks bad for now. Apple has more to fear from google..... they seem to be massing patents related to ai and augmented reality. ...news flash apple isn't really. Also IF GOOGLE is smart they will change to gyro, touch hybrid functions for soon zoom etc like Samsung brought out in the s2
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] alexyaz:
Does anybody know exactly which patents Sammy infringed on. I know the app icons was in question does that mean that all Samsung needs to do is change their icons?

But I agree with the consensus

apple has stole way to many things and won to many lawsuits.

Apple reminds me of the Empire in Star Wars
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] HanMan5000:
I don't think you understand.

A lot of the patents didn't only apply to old devices, they applied to newer devices as well that just weren't listed. Especially these vague "design" patents that really shouldn't have been awarded in the first place.

Not only that, this deals a blow to Samsung, Android, and Google.

In terms of our current S3 and future devices, with 1 billion lost it could damage the company to where they may be slower updates in general, and now future devices will need a huge revamp in terms of design; the "nature" thing won't really cut it. I trust that Samsung can think of a much greater design either way, though.

As Samsung said, this hurts innovation and freedom of choice on the consumers side.

The only thing Samsung gained is that Apple fans are going to want to find out why Apple worked so hard to reach this injunction.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] wizky911:
It's fine guys. Samsung will just have to innovate, while Apple just keeps releasing the same phone over and over again...no biggie. If you thought the GS3 was amazing just wait until next year. Watch.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jarnow94:
I mean future innovations. Pinch to zoom, double tap to zoom, etc, etc, weren't invented by Apple (there's documentation of it years before Apple patented it), in fact I can't think of one thing Apple invented themselves. They simply patent everything. I'm sorry, but I don't think Apple should be able to sue other companies for making their phones rectangular.

This means anything that other companies don't patent fast enough will be patented by Apple, followed by Apple suing other companies for "stealing ideas."

THAT'S how innovation will be prevented, without going into any more unnecessary detail for lack of time/necessity.

And as far as I'm concerned, the GS3 looks absolutely nothing like the iPhone and the new Touchwiz interface isn't that similar to iOS (besides square apps). Obviously Samsung is perfectly capable of making unique devices and does.

The bottom line is Apple never should have been allowed most of those patents in the first place, and this ruling sets bad precedence for future cases and granting of patents.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] gtuansdiamm:
Lg's Ui is a ripoff of tw3

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] tft:
innovation? i mean i understand what some are saying, but there is only so much you can do to a phone in terms of appearance.. thin, touch screen, ear piece, speaker, etc.. apple claims all Samsung phones and tablets should be removed from the market because they copied their "design".. how exactly do you make a phone without it looking similar to another? it's like they want to sue anyone that makes a touch screen phone..

i haven't seen all the samsung phones in person but the Galaxy S3 looks nothing like a crapphone.

Apple acts as if they invented the cell phone.. WAY before they even thought about making a iphone PDA and PPCs were around for many years.. they are the copiers.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] n@rcotic:
Apple is a joke. They think they own every advancement in modern human development when it comes to smartphones. This is America. There is nothing wrong with taking someones idea and making it better. If someone builds a chair, they cant sue me for making a chair that has a cup holder. All this lawsuit stuff is just pathetic. I will never purchase another Apple Product in my LIFE. I cant stand the direction this company is taking. They finally have some stiff competition...so instead of doing some more innovating or expanding their phones hardware capabilities they go after Samsung in the form of 1 billion dollars? The jury obviously saw Apple as an "American" company, and saw Samsung as an overseas company. What they fail to realize is that Apple is the worse of ALL when it comes to foreign country sweat shops. This is war now. Samsung and Google really need to turn on the jets now. I hope this 1 Billion dollar lawsuit doesnt postpone the Jellbean update for our devices.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] humdrum2009:
After this apple is going to attempt to purchase a carrier. Why you ask because

Carriers make good profits from android phones not I phones.

AT&T, Sprint,Verizon are not happy with their cash cow being attacked.

They will pick Sprint or T-Mobile to purchase. Or buy controlling interest.

I owned an iPhone 4s until yesterday sold it to a fanboy for $450.00

Using it to purchase new Sammy laptop.

Bye the way how come Apple isn't suing Sony for the notebook lookalikes or the others.

After this verdict Windows 8 laptops don't seem so bad. By apple sold the Macbook pro also . Free osx3 does everything I need in a non windows os.

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Non apple phone.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] metalfan78:
I think that's how skynet started.

"We're coming from a pure power source"
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Speedin07si:
Samsung generates 1 billion in revenue every 2.4 days.If they lose the appeal, they'll absorb the lose and move on making something bigger and better.

http://gigaom.com/2012/08/25/counterintuitive-did-samsung-emerge-a-winner/

Personally I think it's not right to issue a patent for"round corners" among other things.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] :
Apple is just digging themselves deeper into a ****hole if they keep up the lawsuits.

Google is finally starting to combat Apple and trying to get their products blocked in the US. This is going to be very interested and I want to know how this goes.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] grv00711:
they won in south korea
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ndh777:
I can tell you right off the bat that Apple could care less how much money it cost them to hurt Samsung. Apple has almost as much cash on hand as the federal government has. Steve Jobs was quoted saying that he would do everything he could to put an end to Android. The people who succeeded him are just as bad as he was. Winning $1 billion was nothing for the company. It was a message to other companies and to Google, to cease and desist. Samsung crossed some boundaries and Apple didn't like it, so they did all they could to hurt the company.

Samsung directly threatened Apple's success when news of Samsung's Galaxy S3's profits was surpassing that of the iPhone's. You know Apple is pissed and rather than actually making a better product, they'd rather spend money to push down Samsung.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ilostmypistons:
The big winner in the trial was Wall street

No way Apple was gonna lose and let the biggest cash cow for them be broken.

The jurors ar e starting to talk and something juicy will be leaked... its human nature
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] hurt8000:
Apple sucks and that is it, my gs3 is the best phone out, no comparison, unless you count there home screen looks like me app draw lol
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] bonebeatz1234:
B.s apple wants to be the only smart phone and instead of innovating things they just eliminate the competitor. I hope every android platform maker figure out ways to crush apple iphone crap. Honestly apple control way to much **** to even consider using there platform. People that typically get iphone are people who buy a bmw because it's a bmw not because it has 200 hp, they buy for the name and when they try android they just buy any android phone and be frustrated because it lags. Well android give options people fail to look at specs i finally converted my friend to android to a gs3 and he was amazed at something as simple as making your own ringtones and changing icons .
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] raw2000j:
Im never using an Apple product bastards think they rule the world. Guys are jealous and making ridiculous stuff up so now they want some of Sammys profits. United States trying boost economy by keeping the foreign superior competetor much as they would promote an american car over a foreign car which is better. Its crazy how they got away with this Im ashamed of apple and the US
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jhuff83:
http://phandroid.com/2012/08/24/breaking-verdict-reached-in-apple-v-samsung-patent-trial/

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/08...ict-in-apple-vs-samsung-case/?test=latestnews

Scorecard so far:

* Jury finds Samsung infringement of Apple utility, design patents for some (though not all) products

* Jury upholds Apple utility, design patents

* Jury upholds Apple trade dress '983

* Jury finds Samsung "diluted" Apple's registered iPhone, iPhone 3 and "Combination iPhone" trade dress on some products, not on others

* No Apple infringement of Samsung utility patents

Damages owed by Samsung:

* $1.05 billion and counting
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] blackdragon79:
BS verdict

Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jhuff83:
This sucks ass.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] blackdragon79:
Paid verdict. **** apple

Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] dcaplinger76:
So what now? Will this affect the S3? Is the S4 gonna be triangle shaped?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] MRsf27:
Wow... well u have the most expensive company in the world going another rich company it all comes down to who and what their price is... this is very unfortunate to innovation in the world.. I really do hope someone drops a nuke on the apple head quarters and their affiliates
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] dcaplinger76:
In other news.... Ford is suing Chevy for having a button, that if pressed, rolls down your window..
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] gtuansdiamm:
1 sided polygons - 11 sided ones have been copyrighted

Same with 13 sided - infinity sided

Apple decided to leave out 12 for fun

I can't wait to see my dodecagon s4

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] rgregg504:
And Apple is suing both of them for using a button for anything
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Custodian:
All this because....Samsung released a iPhone killer product lmao....

So in other news... Motorola Google vs apple

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] j1mmyc:
lol and this is probably the best reason yet to never buy anything from apple i can understand protecting your ideas but it seems like most of the stuff they didnt even come up with
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] tkeyes:
this sucks. but samsung can sue, when the iphone with LTE comes out samsung can sue apple because of the patents they have for LTE. with the divisons the samsung have they eat the billions, and get the money back with the parts they make for the iphone/ipad they make.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Forever Justice:
Everyone is complaining....its actually a win! Besides apple how many phones use or are now using samsung chargers? Easiest to use...win one. And you get a samsung for how much compared to apple? With better options, root, etc.

this isnt a loss....its an opening for real things and development for better things even more than apple with restrictions...and so on!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ricocollege:
This is far from a loss, Is apple the Antichrist? yes. is Samsung guilty? Hell ya

Samsung did copy Apple and because they were to lazy and careless, they got caught. Period. Yes, innovation is often achieved on improving and evolving a product of a rival company, but you just have to be a lot more slick about it. They had emails of them admitting it.

Now Samsung will be forced to innovate even harder and this will make our Galaxy 4's even more impressive.

And Android should be safe now the Google got the Motorola patents. They should be able to force Apple into some sort of an agreement, now the Steve Jobs has passed away.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] lyph:
I really hope android platform and look isn't affected by this verdict.

Phuck Apple
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] danman132x:
Hopefully this won't affect the sales of the S3. My upgrade isn't until Sept 1st and I really want the S3. I hate apple so much. You should see some of the posts I wrote about them on other forums. And if I were Samsung, I would quit making Apple's screens and components for some of their devices..
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Forever Justice:
I dont see it affecting the sale of s3, nexus i thought was supposed to be pulled of shelves..havent seen that yet!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] billard412:
because...

Remember that lovely little update that crippled your search bar in LF9? Our s3 isn't the only phone that got it. They changed the software in the gnex like ours to pull the "infringing" sh*t

And for the record, nobody "passed away". God smited steve jobs from the earth for being a scum piece of sh*t :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] beserker15:
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012082510525390&repost=1

Anyone find it hilarous that the original Epic, the one that is most different from the iphones and has a freaking keyboard..., suffered the 2nd most in terms of fines? Also, it's kinda cute that the jurors decided to ignore the concept of prior art to "save time".
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Custodian:
Well...To be honest ...this may very well go super nova..or even viral. Meaning this case will see the doors of the u.s. supreme court. Where we all know apple will not stand a chance with such a petty sue. Stay strong Samsung!

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] RPerry435:
Quote me if I'm wrong but didn't South Korea just ban apple products from being sold in their country?

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] VikingoRMCF:
I too have read this.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] freecharlesmanson:
We really need to hope for a appeal. This verdict isn't likely to stand
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] RPerry435:
That's awesome. Koreans don't mess around lol

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] bestdayever:
Almost all
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] promega:
apple bit the hand that feeds them.

Samsung makes all the chips in the iphones and nokia phones.. and whatever else.. I'm sure with a small hike in price, they will get their money back. Apple plays pretty dirty, and people are waking up. Anyone else think steave jobs was creepy? why the love i will never know.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] gtuansdiamm:
Please put in the official sticky

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] hmoobguy:
Some people don't think for themselves. They like being told what they should eat, wear, sleep and use. :eek:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] KennyG123:
Please continue the discussion in the Apple vs Samsung sticky

Thank you for your cooperation

Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimmyhook:
Editing to reflect proper dumb damages: 1.05 bn (pending)

20 to 21 hours of deliberations is a little fast for such a complicated case me thinks...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] italia0101:
No they didn't .... both kinda won and lost
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimmyhook:
the US trial, not the Korean trial
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] italia0101:
Yea to be fair I just saw. .. they lost lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
$2.3 billion? Try $1.051 billion.

Still bad.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimmyhook:
nope it's 2.3
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimmyhook:
unless CNET is wrong...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimmyhook:
my bad, CNET is wrong.... bad math
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] IINexusII:
$1,051,855,000
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] johnchad14:
And they come for newer phones like the gn next. Hopefully with less success. Pretty frustrating....really seems like a jury caught in apple fever.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Yes, yes they are.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tomikoran2:
can't believe this...why doesn't somebody sue apple?they act like they have invented everything in the mobile industry,they are suing everybody...give me a break...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Exodian:
Yeah, that blows. Its just going to fuel the apple machine to sue more and more and more. They will just keep suing in this same district where Apple and jobs are the second coming of Christ until they do get all major competing phones blocked. I just hope Motorola hits apple hard.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
People are suing (and have sued) Apple.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] malicenfz:
Because most of the jury, the judge and even both lawyers are probably using iPhone :P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lesicnik1:
Wait for the Googlrola v Apple trial.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fayosi:
(I'M NOT APPLE FANBOY)

Have you seen the galaxy tab's UI in the settings menu. It's a direct copy of the ipad.:(

Also why wasn't Google Android sued as well? Because every android phone is literally the same in system.:silly:

Why dont samsung just stop copying apple...it's not hard to do it. Such as Svoice that is just stupid copying Siri. I think samsung are just doing it on purpose because Svoice layout and look of it, is just a blatant copy for siri.:confused:

;) ;) ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
I hate Apple so much....

I didn't until all this crap happened I just said it wasn't for me.

now I would never ever support them in any way no matter what

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they don't copy them...

Ugh I owned a skyrocket before this, there are no similarities.

obviously people who claim this crap haven't actually used one
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jordache16:
This is absolutely ridiculous.

I don't understand how things like pinch to zoom can even be patented in the first place.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
This is what needs to be highlighted. If it wasn't Apple patenting this, it would be someone else. We need to realize that it's the patent system that's messed up allowing companies to patent these things in the first place. You can't blame Apple for trying this. It's in their best financial interest to do so.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Liquidsnk:
Ok guys i will try to explain myself the best i can.

I have an xperia mini pro sk17i so i was on 0.62 after i decided to test some rooms ect, so i opened the bootloader with the sony webpage and rooted my rom. I also installed another kernell.

But now i want to get back to my original 0.62 stock rom. I flashed a version of 0.42 and rooted it, and when i tried to upgrade from the mobile system to 0.62 it says that it cant be done. Also i tried to install xparts in order to get cmw recovery and all the time it says force close it cant be installed.

What can i do? Thanks a lot.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Spex:
you cant update from phone cause u have unlocked bootloader
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Liquidsnk:
So how can i get, original one? And why i cannot install clockwork recovery?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] andry yg mana aja:
wrong section.. please give question on Q/A general section..

Edit: let me answer too.. if you unlock bootloader you cant update from sony.. like PCC or OTA or SUS.. only one way.. is flashtool.. just download your ftf (ROM) and flash it offline..

thank you..
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ben805:
In your opinion which is the Top 5 apps and games that you must have on your beloved Nexus 7? :)
[Galaxy S III General] japjit100:
Please reply u like it or not
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
nooooooooo.....No....No...No....No!

Die thread, die!
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
Judged by OP previous posts he has a week off school .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] Z51:
I like it. Couldnt find one when i purchased mine :/

Would love to have a red one. Very sexy
[Galaxy S III General] winbyte:
red? never! I prefer black on all the devices that I use.
[Galaxy S III General] corcheti:
Pues va a ser que no.

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[Galaxy S III General] MattMJB0188:
How can anyone get the red version? Isn't only on AT&T? Wouldn't that version be locked to them anyway?
[Galaxy S III General] renmo:
dont like it rather ee the all black one
[Galaxy S III General] setspeed:
Don't personally like it, but choice is good - I'm sure there are people that will love a red phone.
[Galaxy S III General] Edward Zhuang:
Red is pretty good too
[Galaxy S III General] hero000:
Assume we like it. SO what??????
[Galaxy S III General] ameygokhale:
I didn't like it, never have been a big fan of colourful phones. Phones should be dark colours only in my opinion :p
[Galaxy S III General] peteri8706:
Red, hmmmm. Would look ok when mixed in with black. Ferrari anyone? ;)
[Galaxy S III General] thekoRngear:
liked the red colour, specially the galaxy s iii brand logo on the surface of the back. wish it were on my int. variant too.
[Galaxy S III General] ecsm0800:
The red looks ok. I wouldn't buy it but more colors are always nice.
[Galaxy S III General] apollo35:
ok
[Galaxy S III General] elnino_zg:
i dont liked the red color on s3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] southygov:
Hey guys, so I attempted to install cm10 last night on my skyrocket but as you can probabably guess it didn't go as planned. As soon as cwm6 went to install the zip it came up as "bad" within cwm and would not intall the rom. I had checked the md5 after it was on my sdcard and before installing. I was rooted, but running stock ics through kies with att. Installing cwm and rooting went flawlessly. Ive been reading up for days into different roms and installation methods so I didnt have any hesitatiions when it came time to pull the trigger. I backed up all my apps with Tibu and had a nand of my stock rom made with my current version of cwm. When i went to install my backup all ii get in cwm is "no files" and they are on my ext_sd. So right now all i can do is boot into cwm, but if i try to reboot the system it just hangs on the samsung logo. I know this has been reported a million times, but what i haven't found is someone that has a nand made but a "no files" notification from cwm when trying to access it. i would really appreciate any help you guys can offer thanks a lot