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[Off-topic] - Swift -:
Two Nexus 7's, one for practical use and one for hacking the **** out of!
[Off-topic] thelowend:
A tablet+keyboard extension and a solid bike.

Why? Because that's what I am going to do with my $500 :)
[Off-topic] huggs:
Toledo, huh?

What side?

I'm South End over South n Broadway area (Sumner down by South &75)

I was under the naive impression that I was the only XDA geek from 419

Guessing by your username, we're probably just about neighbors
[Off-topic] veeman:
Buy a Nexus 7 and spend the rest on hookers.
[Off-topic] thelowend:
I'm on the West-South border. I can spit on UT property lol. There's another guy from Toledo somewhere around here. Howdy!
[Off-topic] heinrichkaiser:
^^ This..
[Off-topic] got556:
I already have a Nexus 7....

And get all the sex I could need or want.

Gym membership....I work for the DOJ and we have a weight training facility with free access.

SIII is a real possibility.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sphere314:
I've already decided to buy the GN 10.1 (as my first tablet) long ago as I think the pen ability will be very useful for my productivity.

Now that, after a long waiting, it's finally (almost) available for purchase I must choose the right model for me.

My dilemma is:

1) WIFI only or WIFI+3G?

I don't plan to use the tablet as a phone. I've my wifi at home and there will be shortly a wifi connection available in my school.

But what if I'm traveling around, in some place with no WIFI and I need a map or getting some info from the internet? Will I regret not having 3G?

(BTW, does handwriting recognition need internet connection?)

In Europe (Italy) the 3G model will cost about €120 more than the equivalent WIFI only model (+22%).

Will it be worth it?

Alternatively: is it possible and how complicated is it to create a hotspot to connect the GN to my cell (Motorola Atrix) and use the cell data connection (in case of need)?

2) 16GB or 32GB?

I don't think I'll use the Note much for videos, so I think 16Gb (plus the SD Card) should be enough. But maybe some extra storage will come handy in the future...?

What would you advice for storing plenty of notes, pdf, books, office documents for a planned life-span of at least 2 years?

The 32GB model has an extra price of about €60 (+11%).

Thanks for any advice you can give
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FPtje:
I went for the Wi-Fi version. If you go for the 3g version, you'll need an extra SIM card, which will cost more. If you have an android phone and a data plan, you can tether the 3g to your Wi-Fi tablet.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mafiatounes:
If you have mobile internet on your Atrix, the best thing would be to tether that to a Wifi version its way cheaper -120€ - Extra sim with monthly costs.

I'm having issue's in choosing aswell my Galaxy S3 has 16gb internally and i cannot install apps on my micro sd, is it the same with the Note? If yes i will go for the 32gb if no 16gb will be enough with a 32gb micro sd.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sphere314:
Thanks.

I think you're right about WIFI vs WIFI+3G and I'm rather convinced now.

Furthermore I've just made a test with the Atrix working as a hotspot and connecting my old laptop to it and I've realized that it's rather simple to set it up and working.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FPtje:
You can even put a button on your home screen to do the work for you.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meanvulcan:
It depends. I just ordered a 3G version/16GB.

* 16GB vs 32GB -- I think a 16GB model is perfectly useful, and the extra cost of the 32GB unit is not justified (you pay $50+ more for the extra 16GB, while you can get a 64GB microsd card for the same price). I could not find a legit 3G/32GB unit to buy anyway, so I ended up with 16GB. I use a 64GB microSD card, so this is really not an issue.

* WiFi vs 3G -- now that really depends on how you plan on using it, where you live, how easily you can get WiFi throughout the day. For me, it was a bit of a toss-up, and I do have a Verizon 4G MiFi I can use, so a WiFi version would make sense. However, I have a 2-year AT&T contract, with data (which I took to get the Samsung Galaxy SIII upgrade, which I am now replacing with the GN10.1), so I opted for 3G (otherwise I'd be paying AT&T for nothing).

Ultimately, here's my take:

- If you are price-concious, a 16GB/WiFi version would be perfectly useful.

- If you truly need constant data access, and plan on paying monthly for a phone company data plan (or already have one :) ), get the 16GB/3G version

- If you you have a lot of local media and don't mind spending an extra $50 on a measly 16GB increase, get the 32GB version

- If you want nothing but the mostest and the bestest :), wait for the Samsung P10 tablet :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mi7chy:
If you can afford it get the 32GB or 64GB with cellular. Since the GN 10.1 is a perfect digital notepad, productivity and consumption device that you'll likely be carrying with you all the time it's convenient to have cellular built in not only for data connectivity but also for fielding calls (through speakerphone or bluetoth headset) while taking notes, doing work, researching materials/internet, etc. Eliminates the need for the extra phone.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sphere314:
Thanks meanvulcan

I'm making up my mind.

WiFi vs 3G > WiFi

I'll use my Atrix as an Hotspot in case I need data connection out of my WiFi covered areas.

I don't think is wise to pay an extra 20% for something I'll never probably use and have the trouble to buy another extra Sim Card too.

16GB vs 32G > 16GB

I think it's enough for my needs. Only doubt is (as Mafiatounes pointed out): is it possible to move apps to the SD Card?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] truthkillszz:
Yes it is possible to move apps to SD card I believe that was a feature introduced in froyo.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mafiatounes:
Indeed and it works on almost all phones except the S3 does not have this option, can anyone owning a Note have a look?

Blasted from the Galaxy S3 with Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BarryH_GEG:
I agree that the difference between 16GB vs. 32GB isn't a big deal with the ability to use a class 10 64GB MicroSD. I disagree about skipping 3G. And while I know I'm in the minority here's why I feel that way:

1) Tethering is a pain in the ass. Take out phone, activate Wi-Fi sharing, connect tablet, disconnect tablet, disable Wi-Fi sharing. Forget the last step and you're phone's battery is toast.

2) The Note has a 7,000mAh battery and my phone is 1800mAh. The phone powering the tablet is backwards. I don't want to have to worry about my phone battery dying in order to get my tablet online. And since the Note's also a phone I use it for long conference calls that would otherwise require me to have my phone connected to AC power to get through the call.

3) A 3G device is always on. E-mail and all the syncs are constantly updated. When I hit the power button I'm online and ready to go. On a Wi-Fi device you have to go through item number one above to get online and then wait for everything to update once it's connected before you can really use it.

My mail accounts are replicated on my phone and tablet. I can grab either to compose or respond to a message instantly. If it's short I'll use my phone, long I'll go for the tablet. If I had to do item number one every time I'd use my tablet a lot less and to me (YMMV) it's worth what I pay each month to AT&T for that convenience.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mi7chy:
Convenience costs money so cellular is great if you can afford it otherwise tethering is fine. As far as phone battery on hotspot there's always an outlet nearby or possibly feeding off of the tablet via USB cable. I used to do that with my laptop but haven't tried if GN 10.1 supplies power through USB.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Evo 4G63:
I'm also debating on the whole WiFi/3G thing. I currently have the WiFi version and plan on returning it for a 3G. I don't plan on adding the device to my plan though; I plan on just swapping my SIM with my phone when I need to and would like the convenience of having 3G and being able to make calls on my Note 10.1.

Is a SIM card required in the 3G one at all times? Can it be used without the SIM without any issues?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BarryH_GEG:
No, it works fine without a SIM. Who is your carrier? You can add it to an existing AT&T account with voice calling and (truly) unlimited data for either $20 or $25 a month with no commitment.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twospirits:
I would love to get the 32GB Wifi/3G version in white but since my carrier is Sprint, it wouldn't make sense for me to get the 3G version. I'll just connect the tablet to my Tri-Fi unit and be on either 3G, Wimax or LTE.

So the choice gets smaller to only having a wifi unit. But what sucks about that is that Samsung has only made the white version in either 16GB Wifi or 32GB with 3G. There isn't a 32GB wifi only model.

So that being the case, I am either left with having to buy a 16GB White Wifi model or a grey 32GB model if I wanted more internal space.

Can somebody confirm for me if apps can be moved to the sdcard. I thought I read that with ICS/JB that is no longer possible.

If so, then my only choice would be to get the 32GB Wifi version.

Edit: just noticed the other thread about apps to sd card.

TS
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Noxey:
Just put an NFC tag on the back of your tablet that configures a WiFi hotspot on your phone, and turn on WiFi (or leave it on all the time since the battery is massive) on your tablet.

The solution is as simple as touching your phone to your tablet.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sphere314:
... or is the recognition engine fully internal and fully working also with no internet connection?

Can someone answer this?

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Entropy512:
I went for wifi 16GB:

Reasons for wifi:

1) I can just tether to my N7000

2) 3G units are "grey market" imports

3) Significantly more expensive

Reasons for only 16GB:

1) A 32GB SD card costs significantly less than adding 16GB of internal storage In fact, it looks like you could probably buy two 32GB cards for less than $50 looking on Amazon. The only time you may have issues is IF you play very large games - some of these have issues with moving their data to external storage.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HasC:
Handwriting recognition does not need an internet connection,its fully internal and works wonderfully.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twospirits:
Well the impatient part of me could not hold out any longer and I got the white 16GB white version today. I am so loving it.

TS
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sphere314:
Thanks Entropy512

I think I'll do the same. Reasons:

1) I'm not much interested in games. In case I have many (and heavy) documents/books/personal files, they can be stored to the SD card.

2) In case I'm in the suburbs of (say) Timbuktu (very unlikely event) with no WiFi connection available I could try to tether the GN to my Atrix. If it wouldn't work I'll then ask myself... "WTF am I doing here?" ;)

3) The 3G option would cost me about €100 for the 3G model plus around €90/per year for an extra SIM card with pre-paid data traffic (limited to 1GB per month). Considering that I expect to be able to use WiFi on a 95% time basis it really doesn't look worth it

Thanks HasC

Now I know that if I were in the suburbs of (say) Timbuktu (very unlikely event) with no WiFi connection available, beyond asking myself "WTF am I doing here?" I could however spend some time trying to keep on working on some personal document based on handwriting and math formulas recognition (and that makes me feel really good! ;) )
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] californiarailroader:
Tethering is the cheapest way to go, and many places have WiFi now, I don't really see the need to pay my carrier any more than I already am ;) Tethering is NOT the hassle you make it out to be ;) The sales of 3G enabled tablets is actually going down, people must agree with me :D

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There ya go, awesome idea!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vostok 7:
I had a 3G/Wifi 64gb iPad (gen 1). First of all, I rarely used the iPad in general, but I used the 3G functionality even less. With tethering, 3G is pretty redundant and extra money that you can save.

So I went for the 16gb Wifi Note and have been happy so far. Tethers well to my Droid RAZR and with SD cards and the fact that I can use jump drives or even external hard drives, 16gb is hardly an issue.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cproaudio:
Many have said that just tether off your phone. Well, doesn't matter how well you can hide your tethering from AT&T, sooner or later they will find out. I installed a custom ROM on my phone with absolutely no traces of entitlement on the phone. After tethering for about month, AT&T sent me a text and a snail mail telling me to stop tethering or get a tethering plan.

If you get a 3G note, you can add a line to your existing plan and add a dumbphone unlimited data for $15 without throttling. I want to get a 3G version but it's too damn expensive, $120 more than a compatible ipad version.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] californiarailroader:
If you don't do it that often, or use it a lot they aren't going to do a thing. I only do it occasionally, so it's not an issue for me. I have an issue with paying AT&T twice for the same data, which is one reason why 3G tablet sales are flat, and even declining.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Noxey:
Telus let's me tether.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kartikatre:
Hi Sphere, Although handwriting recognition is internal, I think Math formula recognition needs Internet access to Wolfram servers.. Not sure as do not have the device in hand.. Damn! Things are so slow to come to Australia!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sphere314:
Can some "lucky" owner confirm that?

Actually I think that connection with Wolfram Alpha servers is certainly needed to get some more info on a written formula (say find the solution of an equation or plot the graph of a function).

But simple "recognition" should go with the internal handwriting recognition engine. It'd be strange if word recognition were internal while math formula recognition (just recognition) were not.

Things are slow in Italy too :(

(Presently the Note 10.1 isn't even advertised in Samsung's local site - www.samsung.com/it)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kartikatre:
I think you are right.. I might have mixed up recognition vs. analysis. If only someone could confirm..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nnjwy:
good for you, enjoy your new happiness I'm enjoying mine.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Entropy512:
Wrong. I've been tethering Android devices to my phones for over a year without any problems.

Let me guess - you tethered a PC and used a desktop browser? Desktop browser useragents were known for being able to trigger a nastygram from AT&T within a day or two of use for a while, and may still trigger nastygrams.

So far there is no evidence that AT&T's detection mechanisms have anything that is triggered by tethering a secondary Android device.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cproaudio:
I've been tethering since 2002 when it used to be called DUN. Then came Sprint's 3G and #777. in 07 I switch over to AT&T and Windows Mobile with WiFi tethering. Tethering is not new to me. I've never gotten any kind of tethering text from AT&T until I switch to Android phones a year ago. You're right I've been tethering to a laptop using desktop browser. What you're saying is that I need to change my useragent on my browser to android? What if I change the browser's useragent on the tablet to desktop. Will that trigger the tether warning from AT&T? BTW where's your source for desktop browser useragents for being known to trigger tethering warning from AT&T?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sumeet909:
This has been a big mystery. If I could make a statement with a broad brush without being specific, I'd say tethering to Android Tablet is much safer than Tethering to laptop: http://forums.androidcentral.com/t/162344-tethering-android-tablet-via-android-phone.html

A point is made in the post above about amount of data consumed on a website in unit time basis which happens to be much higher on a laptop. This is just one of many theories floating around, but I've seen that AT&T has stopped haggling people over this. I suspect they saw a lot of people switch to T-mobile 5gb plan and ST. Also, I've never seen a post where someone was singled out because they tethered on an Android tablet. Actually, I've read about people being safe on their iPads as well. Take it for what you will, but tethering so far has been a safe bet on MediaNet plans as opposed to smartphone plans. It's a shame that nobody at XDA has been able to get to the root of this mystery let alone finding ways around it. I've seen theories ranging from changing APNs, browser agents, latency, geographies, packet sniffing, data consumption rate etc. But nothing conclusive. Perhaps we need to start a thread and pitch in for award money for who can figure out what is going on. AT&T is the only enforcement agency in this country that doesn't need to present proof of any wrong-doing and can take away YOUR legitimate data plan via their own presumption of what they see as a violation of their terms. When I got unlimited data plan, I remember I had Samsung XXXXX and it was advertised as a feature. At some point, they changed the terms.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mafia187:
I got the 16gb WiFi only, use the note at home only but if I ever ventured the note outdoors and need the net then I'll just tether using my one x.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sphere314:
Finally I decided to go for the 3G - 16G. Not as a rational choice but simply because here (in Italy) it's the only model available at the moment (I think the WiFi model will come later), and I was too impatient to wait still longer (I've been waiting for this tablet from june).

Anyway it seems that the 16Gb option has been confirmed by many posts here (in case you don't need extra space for gaming or movies): there is 16Gb + the micro SD + the cloud. It should be enough.

The 3G option is much more controversial but, in my case, expecting to keep this tablet for a couple of years, it could make sense: I'm not going to use it for now, but maybe I'll change my habit in the next months... who knows?

So I'm rather convinced that my (forced) choice can be acceptable.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JuniorGG:
Hello my friends,

I am also Italian and ordered it today. It's the italian version, model GT-N8000EAAITV. Didn't bothered much and went straight for 16G + 3G. Didn't even know that currently this is the only option available in our country, as sphere pointed out.

However, I also feel that 3G (and phone features) may always come handy, since free WiFi hotspots are still very rare in Italy..

I am actually a bit more concerned about the 16GB... Can anyone confirm that the apps can be moved to SD? Because I'm planning to buy a large, class 10 microSD to overcome the 16GB limitation. I also found this thread that may come handy, in case moving apps to sd turns out not to be possible: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1857391http://

I also have another question: I read that people are using 64 GB microSDs, but on their website, Samsung declares expandability up to 32 GB... After a quick search, I noticed that 64GB microSD cards are microSDXC format, whereas cards up to 32 GB are microSDHC... so I guess that both formats are supported by the tablet, right? But if so, does anyone know what could be the reason why Samsung fails to declare it?

Edited: Ok, after some reading, now I know that:

- app2sd: unfortunately, NOT possible (!) Well ok... after all I don't think I will install many apps storing a lot of data in internal memory, and also there's always the possibility of rooting and using the script in the thread I linked, even if I don't consider this as the ultimate solution to the problem anyway.

- 64 GB microSDs... may work, but may even not work. In fact, only up to 32 GB is officially supported. It seems that some lucky random models come with support for exFAT formatted microSDs, but most do not. Workaround is to format the 64 GB card using FAT32, or even NTFS if using an utility by Paragon, available on the market.

But then... will microSD cards formatted with windows file system be as fast as cards formatted with the android file system, when used in the tablet? Anyone can tell me if the speed difference is noticeable? Perhaps by using a class 10 card the difference will be negligible?

Another thing I discovered reading the forum, is that Mass Storage Mode is not available... this is a big disappointment to me!!! Is (large) file syncing with PC quick and easy, without this important feature?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sumeet909:
congrats. Another think to keep in mind while getting SD cards is to get a Class 10. These are much faster than class 6. You'd be able to access your Multimedia more seamlessly. I use a 64GB card on Samsung Infuse 4G (it's a 2011 phone). You should be fine.

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Congrats. I was just checking on Handtec, VAT is brutal.

Price:£476.99

£397.49 ex VAT (Outside Europe Price)

Don't know how you let your governments get away with that.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DJsCrIBbLe:
What about color guys . Who went with grey and who got white and are you happy
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twospirits:
There is a thread about color choices here and here.

but to answer your question, I went for White. Too bad it wasn't available in 32GB WiFi only.

I think it looks much nicer.

TS
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] *Omnipresent*:
I opted for the 3g/wifi 16 gig white note 10.1. Anything is possible these days. What if my phone's battery dies? What if my phone is lost or stolen? What if i drop it and it brakes? What if i temporarily brick it flasing a custom rom? I dont want to have to drive around looking for hotspots so i can tether.Cant wait till i can get 3g on AT&T and T-mobile. As a matter of fact T-mobile's re-farmed 1900 frequency should started lighting up tomorrow:cool:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] *Omnipresent*:
And 6 days later (today) Tmobile's re-farmed 1900Mhz frequency has been activated in my city. Just ran 'speed test' 3 times and Iam averaging 8mb down and 2mb up:highfive:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] californiarailroader:
Nice! T-Mobile is still EDGE here, though we have 3G from AT&T (HSPA+ w/EB), Verizon (EVDO) and U.S. Cellular (EVDO), and soon will have 4G (LTE) from those three as well. Metro PCS here is still 2G (1X) too, T-Mobile and Metro PCS seem to be battling for who can take the longest to bring 3G lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] xhao1108:
So, here's the story: I downgraded my One X once to 1.73 Rogers RUU (which it came with a few months ago) and updated the OTA to 1.94...The H-Boot version is 1.09...

When I checked out JSLEnterprises' stock rogers, I found a note saying:

"THIS ROM IS MENT TO BE USED WITH BOOTLOADER v1.11 AS THE PARTITION OFFSETS ARE DIFFERENT FROM 1.09 and 1.14"

so...is rogers official 1.94 supposed to have a v1.11 h-boot?

Rogers Users highly welcomed for any comments.:highfive:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] DvineLord:
You now have hboot 1.14. You will now have to manually "fastboot flash boot boot.img" before flashing any roms. You also won't be able to downgrade so don't even try.