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[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Yupz its from stockKernel duos ddle if im not wrong..

Since im dont have duos source maybe ive try to elaborate with hell_lock, manoranjan, and other to produce zimage..

Ive only play in ramdisk..

In sgy newest stockKernel modification ramdisk to dualboot and init.d can running well so its must not problem too with duos (i hope)..

But still i need report from tester to make sure is this modification can booting first atleast in stockrom and im still waiting.. :)
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] kurotsugi:
well...if there will be any tester here it will be easier for them if you already have alternative version for them to test in case if this one didn't work. you'll also get a lil bit quicker report from the testers. developing this stuff without the device need a lil more time. lets pray for the best. good luck.
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] boooggy:
installed but gets stucked at boot logo.

stock kernel and stock rom directly from samsung.
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Thanks for report..

I know the problem is and will fix it soon..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Deadly:
@savie.. if you used stock kernel I gave as you said in pm.. then its From DDLG1 update...

@kurotsugi.. I hope you are not talking about my kernel questions in your inbox lol!!

hit thanks button! if above post helps u..

Sent from my GT-S6102

---------- Post added at 12:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:31 AM ----------

Don't worry friend.. I know at least 4-5 who will be ready to test.. its just that this week I got busy with my placements (B.E) and trying my luck with kernel..

Otherwise I would really like to help out duos development...

hit thanks button! if above post helps u..

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[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] kurotsugi:
wow...its now G. I never change my rom since DXLB (lol)

@nitu: nope...of course not. what I mean here is something like "hey...its not working" or "how to install this stuff!?". basicly I always try to reply all of them when I'm in a good mood and my phone get good signal reception. when I was in a bad mood sometimes I replied with a short message like "try to google it" or "read the thread once more" but some of them replied with "F**K you" or "this stuff is sh*t". - -a
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Deadly:
Oh.. that's harsh man.. I mean I have seen flaming.. but if its long or hard to explain.. they should understand.. and I also appreciate all of you guys work.. because almost all dev are not having this phone.. still doing development for us.. that's y I'm greatful to millan, hell_lock, hcfroyd, you, savie, and many others I don't know name..

we duos users should be first thankful.. then request features.. not ordering..

U know nice words helps everyones mood..:D

So Once again thanks all of you.. sorry for this speech and spamming here savie..

hit thanks button! if above post helps u..

Sent from my GT-S6102
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] b16h22:
:thumbup: So you've updated the kernel.Bro,add 'updated' to thread title.

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[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
:p

Dualboot still not work but non-dualboot working.. :)
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] sgyd12:
Nice.. DualBoot..

Downloading now.. & report soon..

Thanks.. :)
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Not dualboot for now.. Only nonDualboot working.. :)
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Kundal:
Great features in Version 1.1. My upcoming favourite.:good:

My testing results:

Version 1.0 nonDualboot => working

Version 1.1 nonDualboot => not working, installed stock kernel before flashing it but it stucks at boot logo and I couldn't get back to recovery so I had to flash Boot_iDuos_1.2.tar with odin.
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Update file for savieDUOSnonDualboot-1.1.zip
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] MNgez:
Download Mode On...

Download Mode On...

I'll Send some Review as soon as possible...

Keep On Rock Bro...
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Always waiting u all to test and report.. :)
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] MNgez:
Not Working...

Bootloop Cannot Get into System... Only in Boot Logo

May be it's crash with my earlier setting etc...

I'll Try another way...
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Kundal:
updated Version 1.1 is working for me.:good:

init.d => working

UV => working

Avast firewall => working

CPU freq => seems to work but SetCPU shows 0 MHz for Freq 156, 312 and 468

20 governors => I see only 5 in SetCPU: interactive, smartassV2. powersafe, performance and bcm21553

4 iosched => SetCPU shows noop, deadline and sio

sd-ext => working fine with ext3 partition and AKURO-data2SD method
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] sgyd12:
NonDualBoot.1.1 not working on my phone..

Bootloop..

Boot CWM - Flash back old kernel..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Thanks guys to reporting..

@kundal : coz only u succes maybe i can share ur device info like rom, tweaks, a2sd/link2sd etc.. try cpumaster or other app to check freq, gov, and ioshed..

@mngez: dont use a2sd draktemor coz in sgy thats problem too..

If this work i've start with dualboot and cwm integrated..

I thing im wrong put zimage so that one only have 5gov n 3ioshed.. lol.. thats kernel is for someone who wanna that features.. sorry guys.. :p
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] MNgez:
1st Test :

Stock DXLF2 XSE Rom (A2sd DT and etc)

Flashing *.Zip Kernel Via CWM

not Working / Bootloop

Flash back to Last Kernel (iDuos 1.3.1) back to Normal

2nd Test:

Stock DXLF2 XSE Rom (A2sd DT and etc)

Flashing *.Zip Kernel Via Stock Recovery

not Working / Bootloop

Flash back to Last Kernel (iDuos 1.3.1) back to Normal

3rd Test

Stock DXLF2 XSE Rom (No A2sd and etc)

Wipe Data and Wipe Cache Via Stock recovery,

Wipe Data, Wipe sd-ext, Wipe Cache, Wipe .android_secure Via CWM

Flashing *.Zip Kernel Via Stock Recovery

not Working / Bootloop

Flash back to Last Kernel (iDuos 1.3.1) back to Normal

4th Test

Stock DXLF2 XSE Rom (No A2sd and etc)

Wipe Data and Wipe Cache Via CWM,

Wipe Data, Wipe sd-ext, Wipe Cache, Wipe .android_secure Via CWM

Flashing *.Zip Kernel Via Stock Recovery

not Working / Bootloop

Flash back to Last Kernel (iDuos 1.3.1) back to Normal

5th Test

Fresh Stock DXLF2 XSE Rom Flashed Via Odin

Flashing *.Zip Kernel Via Stock Recovery

not Working / Bootloop

Flash back to Last Kernel (iDuos 1.3.1) back to Normal

6th Test

Fresh Stock DXLF2 XSE Rom Flashed Via Odin

Flashing *.Zip Kernel Via CWM

not Working / Bootloop

Flash back to Last Kernel (iDuos 1.3.1) back to Normal

Maybe i have Wrong way.

Is there any Possible Way?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Next Test:

Extrax *.zip CP to /mnt/sdcard

Fresh Stock DXLF2 XSE Rom Flashed Via Odin

Root

Push Init.d

Push /System/etc/init.d/99complete

Push /system/bin/sysinit

Recovery Mode (Stock/CWM)

Flash KernelFlasher

I Hope it Work...

and I Hope My Boss not See me doing this

lol
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] b16h22:
Lol.i know where that zImage came from :D
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] kurotsugi:
allright...give us his cellphone number. we might could make him a lil bit busy (lol)
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Deadly:
As kundal said only 3 schedulers 5 governors.. 5 CPU freq.. and it says #2 in about settings.. it might help you figure out which version..

Rom:TD 1512.. tweaks none.. link2sd running.. baseband DDLG1

hit thanks button for help! YOU hit if I helped.. I will hit if you helped!

Sent from my GT-S6102
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Yes im wrong put zimage.. should be #1

Im read u pm but sorry im out for 2hour or ask kuro he know too if im late ti answered
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Kundal:
ROM: Stock XXLG3 with some modded apps

a2sd/link2sd method: [GUIDE][AKURO-DATA2SD] new method to increase internal memory

Tweaks: [MOD] one pack tweaks compilation (gps-net-memory)

I also used init.d tweak to install additional governor/scheduler modules but before flashing your kernel I carefully removed everything already present in your kernel (e.g. bacem + netfilter support in kurotsugi's tweaks) to avoid conflicts.

I used IDUOS 1.3.2 beta kernel and flashed your kernel without flashing the stock kernel before.

Does cpumaster show anything different than SetCPU? All 5 frequencies are shown in SetCPU but when I apply 156, 312 or 468 it shows them correctly applied but 0 MHz for the current frequency. 624 and 832 are showing up correctly.

The 5 governors and 3 schedulers can be choosen and applied by SetCPU.
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] MNgez:
Tested...

Tested...

Booted...

Kernel Version:

2.6.35.7

savie@savie-ntop1 #2

another Feature Test Mode On...

Next Day I'll Post the Review of Featured Kernel Speciallity with Some Apps

Do You Need Screenie?

If Not... I Wont Upload any...

I'll Make Some Screenie for some documentation.

Here I enclosed some way to Flash your Kernel

Extrax SavieDuosNonDualboot-1.1.zip

CP "boot.img, sysinit and 99complete" to "/mnt/sdcard"

Fresh Stock DXLF2 XSE Rom Flashed Via Odin

Root Via Multy Root Installer from Manoranjan

Update SU Binari with 3.1.1

Install Bussybox into /system/xbin

Install Root Explorer.apk

Push Init.d

Push /System/etc/init.d/99complete

chmod 777

Push /system/bin/sysinit

chmod 777

Recovery Mode (Stock/CWM)

Flash KernelFlasherV2.Zip from Milan.SIS

boot.img Flashed in good :good:

Finish

Reboot

Now I Have Savie Kernel in my S6102 DXLF2 XSE...

Next Review:

Testing Some Kernel Function

Correction for Developer:

After So Long Jurney for Installing the Kernel here i enclose my first Impression Review:

Cannot Install Via CWM/Stock by Flash SavieDuosNonDualboot-1.1.zip

Maybe you Should rework with the script but i dont know what or where

I'm just an Ordinary User...

But atleast The Kernel is Installed and working fine for now on,

but after i Ekstraks the pack just like above

I'll Run it in some hours.

Anyway Keep On ROCK Bro...

May Allah Bless U All

Edit:

Tested UV

Test UV:

Terminal emulator:

su

echo -100mV > /proc/sys/bacem/volt/cpu

Result

/sys/class/regulator/regulator.5/microvolt is "1200000"

:good:

Install voltage-information.zip

- installing via cwm

Via terminal emulator:

su

Volt

Result in TE:

bacem-tweak voltage information

status of voltage:

-60mV

0mV is not in undervolt mode

voltage:

1240000

default voltage 832mhz = 1300000

default voltage 312mhz = 1240000

bacem-tweak from irfanbagus@xda

script by: savie-xda
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
@mngez: are u sure zip file cant installing via cwm? What error process when installing via cwm?

How kundal installing it or nitu... i use installer from nitu so i think should working..

Btw thanks guys for all ur report..

Cwm integrated comming.. :p
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Kundal:
I flashed your zip with CWM. No problem here.
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] MNgez:
Yup... Not Working in My ROM

I Have DXLF2 XSE Rom

When Installing there is not Showen any Error Massage

but it becoming bootloop

So I Extrak it and starting it manually...

I Dont Know Why...

May Allah Bless U All

Have to Go... C U Next
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Deadly:
I did same.. no problem here either.. I think its because of stock rom MNgez was facing problems..

hit thanks button for help! YOU hit if I helped.. I will hit if you helped!

Sent from my GT-S6102
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Yupz maybe its cause from stockrom and not have init.d folder..

OOT- how bout ncurses? Its work know? Ive forgot detail but u can read in doc/NCURSES-programming-HOWTO.html
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Deadly:
OK.. I will try again after 3 hours.. going out now..

hit thanks button for help! YOU hit if I helped.. I will hit if you helped!

Sent from my GT-S6102
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] MNgez:
mmm maybe it's init.d problem.

i'll try again in my rom maybe.

May Allah Bless U All...

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[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Maybe.. nitu and kundal reporting working.. :)
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] MNgez:
again...

tested...

Worked with the .zip

Running Properly...

else are already reported

@savie

before Flashing your kernel in this Zip I Need / Required :

Rooted using Super User V 3.1.3 and updated su binary V 3.1.1,

BusyBox added BusyBox 1.20.1,

init.d folder added inid.d.v.06

Flash Under CWM not Stock

So... Problem from Installing Zip file are Solved.

So the Package is not for stock without init.d.

that why i have no problem with flashing by kernelflaher.

also i never have any problem flashing iduos 1.3.1 installer.zip

So in your pack u'r add 2 extra sciprt 99complete and sysinit. so u must informing to others to make sure they has init.d folder.

Finish...

May Allah Bless U All...

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[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Kundal:
Flashed v1.2 now with CWM:

- boot => yes

- CWM =>working

- make a backup with CWM => working, also backed up boot.img and sd-ext (with AKURO method), Backup size looks fine

- governors/schedulers => SetCPU shows all 20/5 and can apply them

- frequencies => same little issue as before, SetCPU shows current freq for 156, 312 and 468 as 0 MHz

- system seems to work fine with all frequencies (very slow with 156 of course)

Test: Apply volt in BTE for each freq using powersave governor

status of voltage: -60mV

voltage 156 MHz: 1160000

voltage 312 MHz: 1180000

voltage 468 MHz: 1200000

voltage 624 MHz: 1220000

voltage 832 MHz: 1240000
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] boooggy:
tested 1.2 especially for cwm

it boots

and cwm is loading instead of stock recovery.

but it shows this error

e:cant open /cache/recovery/log

e:cant mount /cache/recovery/last_log

e:cant open /cache/recovery/last_log
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
1. Try backup and restore with V1.2.. Is it working??

2. Try restore ur old nandroid backup with V1.2.. If 1 question is working then its not cwm problem but its diffrerent structur partition from ur old nandroid backup..

Ps. dont worry with ur error as long its working.. :p
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Deadly:
Flashed v1.2 now with CWM:

- boot => yes

- governors/schedulers => no frills showing all too 20/5 and can apply them

- frequencies => all working.. i used no frills cpu to set.. quick system info pro to verify it.. 156, 312 and 468 and 832 MHz

- working fine...

Test: Apply volt in BTE for each freq using powersave governor

status of voltage: -60, -100 and -140 I tried and working.. got bit scared with -140 though.. but was OK.. values were as kundal suggested...

Cwm about to check..

Edit: cwm gave error while doing /data backup.. 300 MB space was still left..

So I couldn't check restore option.. mount unmount other features working.. which cwm u used for this? Millan's or kundal's edited one?

I use link2sd.. cause of the error?

Also what booogy said is true for me... said e:/blah blah blah.. in many lines...

@kundal.. sorry I took your post and edited it.. you formatted your ans very nicely.. so like apple I liked it and copied it.. just kidding.. :P :D

hit thanks button! If above post helps you..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
@nitu

-140mV not recomended mate..

-100mV with 156mhz sometimes will get u problem in reboot.. must open and pull out ur battery to solve it.. :)
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Deadly:
Well I changed it back to -60 as soon as I tested them.. its d default right? Also read my previous post.. I edited it...

hit thanks button! If above post helps you..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] boooggy:
ok....

it seems that the errors are longer and basically it seems it cant mount or open the cache.

also

tried to make a nandroid backup and it crashed: error while making a backup image of /data. funny is that i have a back up on my sd card .....duh.....i have to look into it to see what does it contain.
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Deadly:
Exactly.. but it stopped at that process mate... that means we have only system and data files... also data file was just 96 MB in mine.. but mine should be around 120 MB.. so its nit complete... but u are right about error.. it just not able to open logs and cache I guess..

hit thanks button! If above post helps you..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Okay guys.. can someone give /proc/mount file?? Trying to fix backup&restore in cwm asap..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Deadly:
I checked in es file explorer.. mount file seems empty.. using adb have to pull it? Or possible to get it in phone only?

hit thanks button! If above post helps you..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] boooggy:
problem again....

it seems i cant restore my boot.img via cwm.....

savie, i have a mounts file in proc folder. is that the one?
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
mount file in that folder empty??

/proc/mounts :p

Or try this with BTE

U must mounts /system first if u wanna install anything in recovery mode.. :)

Yup /proc/mounts file..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] boooggy:
ok i have it but how i can upload it directly from phone?
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Deadly:
Don't worry.. I'm doing it :D

mount points of 6102

hit thanks button! If above post helps you..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Hope u can understand with mount /system first before installing *.zip in cwm

Just copy paste here if u cant upload.. thanks :)
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] boooggy:
here it is.

and lol for the mount system.....

managed to restore my boot.img.
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] MNgez:
Greath...

CWM in Good Mood

Sd-Ext Backed up

bust same as others there is a lot of text come when Installing

blablabla i m not note it sorry... Just like above Posted

Here the mounts file in /proc

http://www.mediafire.com/?uczle9szz5zak2e

Kernel Version

I/O Scheduler

Feq

Governer

​
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Kundal:
- Restored backup made with v1.2 => working, but "Error while formatting /sd-ext"

After reboot the content of sd-ext was wiped (mounted to /system/sd) and there was an empty folder /sd-ext.

- Restored the backup made by v1.2 with my own CWM => working fine

- Changed the AKURO data2sd script to mount sd-ext to /sd-ext instead of /system/sd, made backup with v1.2 and restored it => same error

My own CWM is a Galaxy Mini CWM 5.2.0.6 with modified recovery.fstab. However, I compared the md5 checksums of all files inside CWM-try1 and the Galaxy Mini version and they were identical.
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Wait a sec.. kundal n mngez backup succesfull but boogy n nitu backup fail.. mmm.. :confusing:

For comparation in my sgy im use link2sd n mount to /sd-ext backup&recovery is working well..

Gosh forget again which zImage file for latest build.. :(
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] MNgez:
yup i am able to back up all and also sd-ext part.

but i'm not sure about restoring

donot have much time to do many test.

above i enclude the mounts file in /proc

enjoy...

May Allah Bless U All...

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[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Kundal:
Maybe failed backups of /data are related to Link2SD which mounts sd-ext to /data/sdext2?
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Deadly:
They both have SD ext.. we have internal SD...

Mine is 2 gb sdcard.. 1.6 gb fat32 partition.. 313 MB second partition fat32 for link2sd which gets mounted at /data/sdext2.. may be either that or format variations in partitions causing problems..?

@kundal or MNgez.. can you guys give mount file for him? So that by comparing mine and boogy file and yours we can solve this issue...

hit thanks button! If above post helps you..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Mmm maybe its cause of 2nd partition.. cwm support to backup and restore /sd-ext but link2sd give /data/sdext2..

Im use this file which contain script

to show 2nd partition so theres double show in /sd-ext and /data/sdext2

Im use ext2 for my 2nd partition..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] MNgez:
the mounts file from /proc folder

i've already post it above my screenshoot post. its from my mediafire.

it's packed in zip. i dont wanna make it brocken.

May Allah Bless U All...

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[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Here the important different:

Boogy

MNgez

Another option check /cache/recovery/last_log file and see which part/line is giving error in backup process.. :)
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] boooggy:
i had a backup created but was missing files.

i didnt even bother to try restoring.

i aint using any link2sd or same scripts or programs.

have a 16 gb samsung sd card with only one partition.

savie,

i think i deleted that files clearing all cache ......

i will try to reinstall the kernel and take the proccess from the start again.

later edit

tried 1.2.1

stucked at boot logo
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Deleted
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] boooggy:
sorry mate

still no luck with 1.2.2. stuck at boot logo.

even if i restarted and restart in recovery which now shows no error.
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Still have 2-3hours to fix it to end working for 2day.. thanks for quick report so will remove link..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] boooggy:
no problemo mate

i am here to test.:cowboy:
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Update

savieDUOS-1.2.3 --> need tester

Try to fix cwm integrated and hope booting now

Common user recomended use savieDUOS-1.0 and savieDUOS-1.1 kernel

Regard

-savie@xda-
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] boooggy:
good news

it boots

bad news

i still have those errors from 1.2:

e:cant mount /cache/recovery/log etc

and also cant make backup

error while making backup image of /data.
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] MNgez:
Wow...

Very fast development...

Love this...

But sorry i'm in home cannot download any...

Sorry Very Slow Net here

May Allah Bless U All...

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[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
1. Please check is ur /proc/mounts same with MNgez

2. Can u give /cache/recovery/last_log file?

3. Is u see file fstab and recovery.fstab on /system/etc? If not copy from /sbin then setting permission rwxr-x---

I'll try to fix since its still have time for 2day..

No problem bro.. its test only Ver-1.0 and Ver-1.1 is recomended for now..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] Deadly:
hey.. i noticed one other thing.. recovery.log from 1.2.2 of cwm is saved in /sdcard/clockworkmod/ beside backup folder! may be thats related to cant read log issue?

i mean i never saw any log file inside clockworkmod folder before.. may be due to interrupted backup it came.. i dont know.. thought it might help..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] boooggy:
1.seems to be the same

2. see attach

3. no for both files
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] savie:
Yupz thats is report file from what we do in recovery mode..

Similiar with /cache/recovery/last_log if its exsist

For 3. Try manual method.. :)

For 2. Theres issue in mount /cache and /data.. Whats showing if u mount /cache and /data using cwm?

Trying to uploading again after ur report so the problem more clearly..
[Galaxy Y Duos S6102 Android Development] boooggy:
tried to add those files manually - succeeded

data and cache are already mounted. i unmounted both and then mounted them back along with system and rebooted in recovery. same errors with mound and open that cache/recovery crap.....

ps sorry for delay...got caught up with real life.....