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[General Questions and Answers] VonSparq:
Hello!

I'd like to buy a phone that has a solid dev community since rooting and custom ROMs are very important to me.

I have 2000PLN I'd like to spend on the device, that's around 500-550 USD but I prefer to buy new from reputable shops.

Hardware wise, I have three priorities.

Screen:

I want a huge display, 6,6"+, it can go over 7" if there's such a device.

AMOLED

1080p@60 or 90hz is fine.

I'd prefer a popup camera or a small hole punch, top left is best but a water drop or a center hole punch are not deal breakers, I just prefer it to be out of the way.

Battery: 4400mah+ with at least 10w charging.

SoC: I was thinking about a device with the Snap 855 or 865 with 6 or 8 GB of ram.

I would also be happy with something like the Poco X3 that has a weaker 732G or 720G but also cuts the budget by half, sadly that particular device though great all around, doesn't have an AMOLED display and I use my phone at night in dark mode a lot.

There's obviously some other small stuff but if the device has all three of these and a great dev community I don't think any of it will be a deal breaker.

I've been looking at the s10 Lite and Poco F2 Pro, both of them have amazing hardware but it's been a good few months since their launches and the development for them is pretty much nonexistent.

Do you think I should pick up one of those devices and hope it gets a better community later on, wait for future releases or is there anything you would like to recommend?
[General Questions and Answers] eriol1:
Edit:

Sorry, kid pressing buttons :p

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[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Go with K20 pro

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I own a Huawei MediaPad M5 lite, bought almost two years ago. Good tablet, rootable. Performance is good, battery still holds about 2 days. Comes with Google play support.
[General Questions and Answers] VonSparq:
I've been considering that one, but it's super hard to get in my region new from a reputable seller, I'd have to pay for it more than for the 6GB K30 Pro.

It also has a pretty small screen screen.
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
I would think about your search in a different way. I ve used to think buying a 500$ smartphone would be a great solution, using it for a long time. But not anymore. Why splurge 500$ for a piece of glass, when you can get the almost same specs for 200$? I ve bought a Xiaomi Note 8 Pro. Using it just for example, you could go with the snapdragon ones. Root isn't bringing insane options to the table like it used to be. Great customize ability is there, xiaomi does provides countless themes, bootanimations, status bar customization etc. For performance, going over 4 gigs of ram, with root doubt you will notice an amazing improvement. Barely 20%. Battery holds for days (managed to get 3 days on moderate usage). Bloatware is there, thats what makes the smartphones from xiaomi 200$. Mostly can be disabled, the ones that can't, you can hide them. On a 200$ phone, you can get yourself the one with bigger size. And a rom without bloatware barely gets you around 2 gigs of free space. You are going to fill that in a day, not really worth the effort. You don't like the interface, been using custom launchers for 8 years now. Bought nova launcher and never looked back. Why throw 500$ for a phone, when I can make a 200$ one feel and look better? Camera is mostly software now, thanks to gcam. There aren't that many reasons nowadays to root a phone, when you can do everything out of the box. Get yourself a Xiaomi phone now, use it good for 2 years. Then you will see. Maybe there are custom roms with newer Android versions. In two years a lot can change. Maybe you will get another one for another 200$. And I can guarantee your 200$ phone, two years from now, will be better than your 2020 500$ phone. Think about it
[General Questions and Answers] VonSparq:
I'm not opposed to that, like i said in my first post, I'd be more than happy if i could get a phone with a lower end SoC like the 720G, 765G or the 732G that meets all of my other requirements for $200.

Thing is, I can't.

The Poco X3 came the closest to the mark but it lacks the AMOLED that I really want, and other phones that have a nice big screen like the A71 or the Mi 9t are so close in price to the Poco F2 Pro or the S10 Lite where I live It'd be dumb to go for the lower end ones.
[General Questions and Answers] markbnj:
help please Xiaomi redmi note 9 pro vs. Realme 7 Pro

both are within $20 of my price range: (approx $300 USD)

US. User in Tampa, FL: AT&T user. (unlimited data)

Please help me decide: I''m ready to pull the TRIGGER for one of them:

realme 7 pro

Qualcomm SM7125 Snapdragon 720G

8GB RAM/128GB storage

Similar...

Xiaomi Redmi Note 9 Pro

Qualcomm SM7125 Snapdragon 720G

6GB RAM, 128 GB storage

So very similar, even cameras, etc:

WHAT I need advice on is:

Ease of rooting

XDA support

ROM development activity

USA Support

google (android) support

frequency of updates, including security ones.

ease of use in getting screen covers, cases, etc

I know that neither of these are specifically USA models, with US warranties. That doesn't bother me.

what I am concerned about is the problems that occurred with ZTE and Huewai in the past few years.

As I said, ready to buy asap!

(my previous daily phone, my Huawei Mate SE, just died a horrible death and incineration of it's battery, on my kitchen counter.

Very Luckily, I was able to toss it out my kitchen door, into a bucket of water before it burnt my house down.... Sigh.

It was good to me until the politics started, and the updates stopped!):crying:

Thanks in advance, and please feel free to comment at length.
[General Questions and Answers] sferraro:
Looking for a phone recommendation that can be rooted with T-mobile

I have an LG G7 thin and from what I've found on the forum is that my LM-G710TM can't be rooted? I've rooted a couple Samsung 5s and really liked using them with custom ROM's and no Google. I'm looking for a phone that can be rooted and works with T-Mobile, has fingerprint security, a good display and is under $250 ? Dose anyone know which phones that fit the bill? I was looking briefly at a Motorola G Power. It's in the budget and they claim it works with t mobile though it's no on their site and I can't find much info on rooting it because its fairly new. Any recommendations for a phone that fill my needs, it would be greatly appreciated.
[General Questions and Answers] bluepuma77:
How to find a recent decent $100 bootloader-unlock-able Android smartphone?

Hi all,

I am currently looking for a $100 Android device which is Lineage enabled and bootloader-unlock-able. I need to use camera and wifi.

When looking at the Lineage website I can get a list of devices on their "Download page" (download.lineageos.org), but I can't filter for devices which are currently available (or just by release date). When checking a few by brand and model via Google, most of them can't be bought anymore.

When looking at the change log (lineageos.org/Changelog-24) the only device mentioned is the Pixel 4. It has a link to "anyone else looking to install LineageOS for the first time. These can be found here (wiki.lineageos.org/install_guides.html)." But that page has only cryptic names (addisom, akari, albus, angler, ...).

Is there no list for regular people who want to buy a recent decent (hardware supported) phone and put Lineage on it?

Thanks

bluepuma
[General Questions and Answers] Droidriven:
They reference devices by the devices codename, not by brand and model.

It isn't hard to identify which codename is which device, a simple google search using the codename will find the actual brand name and model of the device.

Their website doesn't focus on users looking for a new device to flash LineageOS on, their website is intended for users that already have a device that the LineageOS teams have built a ROM for.
[General Questions and Answers] Fifciak:
Could someone recommend me a phone above 7.5 inches or a tablet up to a maximum of 8.4 inches with a calling function, like putting a smartphone to the ear, not by loud speaker. When it comes to the price, a maximum of $ 1000, the parameters at the flagship level of 2017 are enough
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Go with a Surface Duo. Seems quite interesting, why not?
[General Questions and Answers] merlindu12:
which rugged phone for a custom rom ?

Hello everyone,

I'm a french seafarer and I search for a rugged phone with the IP68 and anti-choc features.

I already have a rooted nexus 6 with the Lineage OS custom rom and it's pretty good but it was launch on 2014, the battery is fast tired, and he fears water.

I have looking for a Blackview BV9100 because, as I see on some sites like below it's possible to flash a rom custom on it.

{Mod edit: Link to paid services website removed. Oswald Boelcke, Senior Moderator}

https://www.getdroidtips.com/lineage...00-android-10/

https://gearallnews.com/how-to-insta...00-android-10/

I also see similar things like a list of compatible devices who mention the bv9100

https://cellularnews.com/mobile-oper...-need-to-know/

I have bought it, and following multiples tutorials I have unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP as the custom recovery with adb and fastboot on my Debian Linux, like I have do on the Nexus 6 few years ago.

The problem is a bootloop after the flash of the system.img, I have try a lot of times and with many ways but the device show me the Blackview logo and reboot all the times.

-Has anyone made it with the BV9100 and the GSI rom ??

-I don't have any save of the stock rom so I can't reflash it, any ideas for unbrick the device ?

-Can I find the stock rom on the internet and reflash it or it is bricked-bricked ?

-As I see we can't trust these sites... or it's me ?

-I don't want a Blackview in particular but I like these devices. I also see Ulefone, Crosscall, Oukitel, AGM ... have you flash custom roms on it ?

I am not very interested by a stock rom + root only and probable there are options with roms custom.

I search a lightweight open source system like the AOSP or LineageOS.

So if it's not possible with the BV9100 (it is ?) or to unbrick it (it is ?), I search other candidate,

the BV9500 or BV9600 seems to be better supported GSI:

a video of a BV9500 running Lineage OS

https://github.com/phhusson/treble_e...entations/wiki

https://community.e.foundation/t/dev...t-treble/19645

but it seams to have lot of troubleshootings, any feedback ?

https://xdaforums.com/and...ustom-t3923520

https://xdaforums.com/lin...t3895648/page5

https://github.com/phhusson/treble_e...iew-BV9500-Pro

it's look like some guys have already succeeded, I want feedback please

Any others rugged devices or customs rom are welcome !

We are about ten guys interested at the boat workshop !

I don't have skills to compile but I am comfortable with the command line, Linux and some tricks, so I can try something with help and tutorials
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
How about the Cat S62 Pro? https://www.techradar.com/reviews/cat-s62-pro-rugged-smartphone

Relating custom roms, they do tend to have a mark on older phones. Custom rom or not, on a 6 gigs of ram smartphone, you wouldn't feel an difference. Use a custom launcher if the interface seem laggy. And if you get root, there s an app, Fde, which optimizeze în background. Had it on my s6, it did get better battery management.
[General Questions and Answers] domdom272:
Yes I'm thinking the same....

I think I agree, I am upgrading from a galaxy note 3! So I started looking at pocophone f2 pro/k20; OnePlus 7pro/t etc then realised I could get a used galaxy note 10+ for about the same price (in UK) but that was still £450ish (about $580USD) which is such a lot of £££. So now I'm thinking of going for the Xiaomi Note 8 Pro or similar. Is this the best pick around this price? Will it work ok in UK? Thanks, interesting thoughts...
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Go with the note 9 pro. It comes with snapdragon. Snapdragon plays better with devs than mediatek. The note 8 pro plays nice, haven't had a problem yet with it. A very good phone.
[General Questions and Answers] dgcruzing:
Research before you go the note 9..

You are only going to get 2 years out of it if your lucky .

Search note 9 green screen..

That might put you off ..

Not with standing it is a lovely piece of equipment and as per the thread I just managered to get a new one under warranty (3 days left).. due to the screen problem..

I wouldn't buy a 2nd hand one .

But I am thinking to flick this one off with in the next few months and upgrade ..
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
True, for such a price, you wouldn't expect more than 2 years support from Xiaomi. The next one or two years will be based on community development. Then is a new phone.
[General Questions and Answers] domdom272:
I thought the green screen was a Samsung issue? Are you talking about the Samsung galaxy note 9? I was talking about the redmi note 9 (pro).

Why would you only get 2years out of it? My Galaxy note 3 (sm-n9005) has lasted me 8yrs. Are you thinking sealed battery?
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
I think he's referring update support.
[General Questions and Answers] dgcruzing:
Yes..both correct..

Funny thing is I got an old Evo that is still booting and screen looks the same as it did when I brought it..
[General Questions and Answers] Droidriven:
I have the first kindle fire HD 7"(bought in 2012) that I bought as soon as they were released, it is still a perfect device. I also have a Sprint Galaxy S2 that still works fine, a Galaxy S3 that still works fine and a Nexus 5 that still works like new. Nothing wrong with old hardware but some of it can't handle newer software.
[General Questions and Answers] DiamondJohn:
You also have some older software services, that rely on internet services, that no are longer maintained/supported. eg Weather widget stopped working . The network suppliers also have a history of changing bands. And to really push it, I used to have some old back-up phones that no longer work, as they are all 2G. Admittedly, they were not android.
[General Questions and Answers] Droidriven:
Probably so, I haven't used any of them in a long time so I'm not sure which features are/aren't supported any longer, but, my point was, the devices themselves, from a hardware perspective, are still going strong.
[General Questions and Answers] DiamondJohn:
You o0bviously did no0t read my post. Netwpork bands are hardware, and network providers do change wha they6 support. ANd these devices do NOT last for ever. You can see when trying to buy a second hand one of some devices, they become less and less available over time, as the hardware fails. The devices have not been built nor designed to last a long time. They would cost significantly more, if they were designed and built as such.
[General Questions and Answers] Droidriven:
No, you didn't read my post, or, at least, you didn't understand my point and, yet again, you would rather argue about it than see my specific point, or maybe you are just choosing to ignore my specific point, again. And, yet again, what you are saying is true, but has nothing to do with my specific point.

There is a difference between a piece of hardware's ability to physically function and whether a piece of hardware is supported. The device's radio "works", there just isn't a network signal provided for it to communicate with. You don't agree? How about an example: a television's hardware functions, whether the television is connected to an input source or not or whether it is receiving a signal or not. The TV can function, regardless of what signals it is or isn't/can or can't receive from the outside world. So, again, the hardware "works", as I stated, it is just a matter of specific services that it was designed to use no longer "working". It works, it just can't do anything, like, as another example, a gun that can still function but no longer has ammunition in production to be used with it. You're talking about whether the hardware is "supported", I'm specifically talking about the physical durability of the hardware components, not anything "outside" of the device. These two things are not the same thing.
[General Questions and Answers] just doin my thang:
im lookin for a rugged phone to root and put on a custom rom.

yea thats basically it, just a rugged phone that i can root and put roms on and be all happy with. i have an exciting lifestyle and my phones suffer sadly from it, i have google pixel xl that is permantly boot looped but because the power module is severed or something else hardware from having it in my pocket while i was trying backflips snowboarding, then i lost a second second hand nokia 7.1 from having it in a "waterproof bag" while i was spear fishing and left at the shore while it was raining cause i thought "waterproof" meant waterproof .

i had a look at some ulefones and loooved the styling of armour 7 and 9 but didnt really love the fact that u can only use their rom.

so yeaaa im all ears and i hope all youse have suggestions.
[General Questions and Answers] Hitti2:
No samsung junk locked bs.

Need newest strong processer in smartphone.

3.5mm headphone jack.

SD card slot to go with my 512GB micro sd card or able to fit sizes above 512GB.

Unlocked & able root.

newest android software if applicable.

I do like android 10 but app sleep or deep sleep dont work in android 10. I want greenify.

xposed.

all the knick knacks of root.
[General Questions and Answers] tfcheng:
which phone should I buy next?

Hi,

this is the exactly what i am looking for in terms of a thread. What I need for my next phone are: (1) mid-range, hopefully no more than $400. I don't play games; (2) big battery, I need to use the phone as a GPS when traveling; (3) has a usb-C that support display output. (4) takes good pictures. I guess Pixel 4a kinds fits these criteria, but the battery is not that big. And can someone please elaborate on the type or specification of the USB-C that supports display port? I am confused by all the specs on the current USB-C port. Anyway, can someone recommend something? thanks!
[General Questions and Answers] Ã–mer:
My 6s is almost dead now, I need a cheap used phone for daily driving for a year and only after that I will be able to get something good. Musts for me are:

-Good calibrated screen (I dont use more than 50% brightness on 6s but colors are actually nice even tho it's lcd)

-Shouldn't be slower than sd625

-Bugless rom and gcam support

-No cronical problem that will cost me more to replace

What would you recommend? Cheaper options would be better. Btw excuse my potato language :)
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Xiaomi note 8 pro with GCam

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Xiaomi note 8 pro
[General Questions and Answers] Vdfx9user:
Which phone should I buy?

Hello and thank you for reading my question should I buy an OPPO A72 or a TCL 10L? My previous phone was a vodafone smart x9 aka vodafone 820

Thank you for your time :)
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Note 10 and Note 20.

Very overpriced, (670€ and 820€), no sim card, no headphone jack. Doesn't deliver at all. Performance small. The note 10 has even a small battery. I wouldn't recommend any at all.

If you want to see what I took in comparison, this is my phone : Xiaomi Note 8 pro. At 200€. Both notes don't don't provide 3/4 times the specs for that price tag.
[General Questions and Answers] Toasty1Too:
Looking to procure some tablets for the kids.

My budget is probably in the $200 each range, but higher is not out of the question if it's the only way to get what I want.

Requirements:

Headphone jack

SD Card slot

Preferences:

Smaller is better(are there any "tablets" the size of a phone? I would just get them phones, but I don't want the potential liability of them calling 911... tablets lack this "feature")

Bigger battery is better.

The logic on the headphone jack requirement is threefold. First, they already have wired headsets that are in good working order. Second, trying to keep all the gadgets charged is hard enough with each of them having tablets already, wired headsets just remove complexity(yes, I know USB-minijack dongles are a thing; another thing that can get lost). Third, we already have several splitters, so multiple kids can watch a single movie on a single device if they want, with a single headphone jack... this is much harder to achieve with wireless solutions.

Anyone volunteering advice, many thanks for your effort!

The sd card slot is just for expandable storage for more media.
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Would recommend an old tablet, Huawei MediaPad M5 lite. There are 8 inches or 10 inches variants. Have the tablet for almost two years now. Still using it. Works very good.
[General Questions and Answers] RedheadTarn:
Amazon fire HD tablets have those specs and are currently showing in Google for between $79 and $99
[General Questions and Answers] T.Y.M.SAI:
I wanted to know which phone will be beter for development(Custom roms , mod , support) under a price tag of 15k INR .

Can you suggest a phone in given budget.

Currently I am thinking to buy

Redmi Note7/7PRO,

Poco M2 PRO,

Samsung A50s.

:confused::(:confused:
[General Questions and Answers] germandowski:
can you give me some advice on the best camera phone with excellent autonomy under 60

Under € 600 excluding the note 10 (which I don't like the display) the best alternative as a main camera is the mi 10 right?

because I believe that the only alternatives are: samsung S20 FE 5G, mi 10, p30 pro

Based on the main one with pixel binning we have:

- Mi 10 = 27MP, f1.7, 1 / 1.33 ", 1.66um

- p30 pro = 10MP, f1.6, 1 / 1.7 ", 2um

- FE 5G = 12MP, f1.8, 1 / 1.76 ", 1.8um

In theory the best should be the mi 10 which has a larger sensor size and higher resolution, right?

Because it is true that the p30 pro / FE 5g have a larger individual pixel size ... but the sensor size should be more important, right?

(all this speech excluding the software for now)

Thank you
[General Questions and Answers] markbnj:
update: redmi note 9 pro

I went with the Xiaomi Redme Note 9 Pro, instead of the Realme.

So far, so Good, just unlocked bootloader. next Here comes TWRP

thanks again to all, and good luck
[General Questions and Answers] eriol1:
A little rusty on the details, but I think larger sensor size means better overall light sensitivity, whereas larger individual pixels would mean better light sensitivity per pixel and therefore lower iso numbers and less noise.

The larger sensor with more pixels will probably compensate by using values from multiple adjacent pixels in order to reduce noise.

In any case I doubt you'd be able to see much of a difference between these under normal conditions unless you're printing them out nice and big or zooming in quite a bit.

There's probably more of a difference under low light conditions, you'd have to read proper reviews to find out exactly. The larger pixels may win on this front.

Specs are nice and all, but there's no replacement for good old comparison photos.
[General Questions and Answers] germandowski:
thank you so much. Unfortunately I could not find comparable photos. Of the video comparisons on youtube I don't know if I can trust them very much ...
[General Questions and Answers] markbnj:
xiaomi redmi note 8 pro or note 9 pro?!

I think the note 9 pro (global) is better as it doesnt have the mediatek chip..
[General Questions and Answers] ajmc1:
Realme X3 or LG G8x?
[General Questions and Answers] mubasshir330:
I'm looking to buy a phone with good custom rom support. Would you recommend the xiaomi note 9? Not the pro. As of now there have been no ROMs for it yet. Is there any possibility for ROMs to come out for that phone?