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[General Questions and Answers] MiyagiSan:
Since you looking at the Moto G already, how about the Moto X for $230 plus shipping?

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How about a Moto X for $230 plus shipping?

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If you can stretch to 18k, you can have the Moto X 1st gen if you hurry....

- Good for modding and rom? :good:

- Android with good camera? :good:
[General Questions and Answers] nagasundaramece:
Hi... I am new.... I don't know how to install a custom rom. Plz help me to do
[General Questions and Answers] mrrocketdog:
this may help....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2774602

"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
[General Questions and Answers] nagasundaramece:
I am having xpeeia tipo... I have rooted my phone. Cwm also installed.. What is the next step
[General Questions and Answers] mrrocketdog:
i would make a backup of current ROM in cwm. go to your device model's thread , download a ROM and flash it. make sure to read the OP in case of any special instructions.

"all i can really do, is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"

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apologies for off topic mods. please move these post as necessary.

ty.

"all i can really do, is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
[General Questions and Answers] nagasundaramece:
My phone memory is just 756 mb and it is almost full.Bse what's app and facebook installed in phone memory.other app moved to internal. This two I can't. It shows "move to internal" in hide condition.plz help me to move and increase my phone memory.
[General Questions and Answers] mrrocketdog:
allright about time to replace my trusty S3. sniffle. sniffle.

am leaning hard between the S5 and LGg3.

anyone care to help sway me one way or the other ? any news/opinions/thoughts greatly appreciated. :good:

err on the side of kindness
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
Of those 2, I'd go with the G3, as long as it's the version with 32GB storage and 3GB RAM. Easily rootable, TWRP, no KNOX BS, pretty future-proof.
[General Questions and Answers] SnowJim:
Hi,

I have a Samsung S3 LTE today and Im tired of the old software. It would be fine if I could install a custom rom(with new version of android) but there is none stabel for this modell and will probably not be any.

I like Android stock and the fact to get the newest software even if the phone is a couple of yers, so Nexus 5 and Nexus 6 looks to be great choises, I do however have some problems with them :

Nexus 5, "old"-ish and not a top phone in build qulity or camera. Its a okay phone, not much more.

Nexus 6, probably way to big for me.

So if none of them is the way to go, what phone to choose? I need to be able to get updated Android even if the phone is a couple of years old so this means that it should be possible to install stable custom roms. Maybe the Moto X 2014? Any suggestions?
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
If you're in to flashing custom ROMs, the OnePlus One is fantastic...if you can get one. The LG G2 is basically a Nexus 5 with a bigger battery and better camera, although the amount of development isn't as expansive (but still significant). The Moto X 2014 is a hell of a phone, but it's too new for much in the way of custom development.
[General Questions and Answers] SnowJim:
One of my friends got a OnePlus One, it seems nice but the its not a top of the line phone if I got it right?

How does LG G2 work? Have LG released the software so there is stable alternative roms to use?
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
Sure it is.

The hardware of the G2 is slightly dated, but it's still extremely competent and capable of anything you'll want it to do, and for a long time. Custom ROMs and kernels are available. If you want to remain with stock, 5.0 is probably in the not-so-distant future from LG.
[General Questions and Answers] Stuart Little:
You can find the phone in the mid range market but it has specs in the high end market.

The pros about the phones are:

- High quality camera

- Good CPU and RAM

- Low price

The cons are:

- bad customer support
[General Questions and Answers] Umbardacil:
I do not think that this is the right place to ask about it. This thread is about advising people, who want to buy new phone (myself for example) not for asking for help regarding custom ROM flashing. Google right thread man! Jeeez - is there any moderator of the thread anyway?

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I would be not so sure about it ;) I've got O4XHD and I need to say that without unlocked bootloader and root I could kiss any major update bye bye :) Including KitKat too.
[General Questions and Answers] SnowJim:
Thanks for your feed back.

Phones usally gets software updates for about 18-24 months but I suspect that there is phones that might get software updates far longer.

From what I heard(Im a noob on this) the "drivers" for the Nexus 5 is released so custom roms could get pretty stable. This should mean that its possible that the phone will get new Android version for a longer period of time even if Google not releses any special update for it. Is this correct?

OnePlus One runns on CM11 S and it is said that this version is vary sable? right? This should mean that CM allready got good "drivers" for the OnePlus One and CM is known to release updated Android versions to older phones. Could this mean that the OnePlus One will have a longer lifespan then other phones like Samsung, HTC and Sony?

I could probably have my Samsung S3 LTE for at least 1 year extra if there was a software update for it, for example KitKat and Android L but this will probably never happen and the Samsung Stock Android 4.3 is nut fun at all :( What Im saying is that the hardware of my Samsung S3 could leave for another year at least but its the software that drags it down.
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
"Drivers" isn't the right word, I think you're thinking of source code. And yes, Google makes their source codes available. The Nexus 4 is 2 years old, and it's getting the 5.0 Lollipop update, so it's safe to assume that the Nexus 5 will be up to date for a good long time.

CM11S has its issues, many have been fixed. The OPO is also basically a Nexus-like device, so custom third party development is very active. This phone will have a long lifespan.

I don't know what specific model you have, but there are 4.4 KK ROMs available for Galaxy S3s. You just have to be willing to take the plunge to install a custom OS on your phone.
[General Questions and Answers] MiyagiSan:
This

is why we advocate paying particular attention to the following

before

you buy a device:

- unlocked booloaders (or unlockable at least),

- whether or not a device can be rooted

- availability of custom roms (or likely availability for new devices - prefer Qualcomm, avoid Exynos/MediaTek/etc is a good maxim for now)

- avoiding carrier devices in general as they are most likely to be locked down (not always the case - for instance T-Mob in US)

If we all did this, manufacturers would increasingly start to offer devices that suit us and work for us. Not for themselves.

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The issue isn't always AOSP source code (although that can be a very useful roadmap) but what was called "drivers". If you have the manufacturer-provided AOSP source to say Jellybean for a device, the source is accompanied by lots of binary blobs loosely referred to as drivers that interface with the hardware or, implement proprietary functionality that is needed by some system or app. So, you're good. You can use the source as a roadmap to port jellybean versions of CyanogenMod, Omni, PA or whatever to that device.

Then along come KitKat and with it perhaps a change in the API used to talk to some of these "drivers". Your device is not getting a KitKat build so, no new set of driver blobs. Without source code to the existing jellybean drivers, you have a problem that the availability of KitKat AOSP source for another device isn't going to help fix (unless that device is very closely related - hence the supremacy of Qualcomm for custom roms, Nexus devices use them).

As for how this "drivers" issue might affect real even Nexus devices, think about the Nexus 4's still on-going LTE or no-LTE debacle....or Samsung's ANT+ or no ANT+ on the S3/S4 episode.
[General Questions and Answers] mrrocketdog:
ok, leaning hard towards the LGg3 (to replace my S3),

all comments/concerns welcome.:thumbup:

"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
[General Questions and Answers] MiyagiSan:
LG G3 rather than Galaxy S5 to replace your Galxy S3 because.....?
[General Questions and Answers] mrrocketdog:
S model, i hear is going to go to Fmodel (or someting like that) and ready to move on from samsung.

"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
[General Questions and Answers] MiyagiSan:
Interesting.

I asked because, of the two, the LG G3 seems to offer less functional reasons to choose it over the Galaxy S5. The S5 offers water/dust resistance and the neat battery-saving black/white screen mode. Plus user-removable battery - useful if you like to keep a device for years or just to have extra batteries to hand.

Don't like Samsung's treatment of it's better informed users (secretive/dismissive, no support for developers, knox warranty bull****) but, I am pragmatic and will buy one of their devices if doing so is to my benefit.
[General Questions and Answers] Stuart Little:
Iphone runs longer
[General Questions and Answers] MiyagiSan:
Android phones with good 3rd party development and custom rom support on xda/modaco etc run longest...HTC HD2! :p
[General Questions and Answers] SnowJim:
So what phones today offers this? Is there I list, It would be much easier to choose if there where.
[General Questions and Answers] D4rkD4ni:
i have about 245$ in hand and i wanna buy a new device but idk what to get i currently have

Samsung Galaxy S5 & Note 2

Asus Transformer TF101

PS Vita

3DS

PS4

PS3

Xbox 360

NDS Lite

iPhone 2G

HP Pavilion DV6 Laptop

im looking for something new in that price range any suggestions would be great currently got an ipad mini and ipod touch 5 in mind and they are in the price range :)
[General Questions and Answers] MiyagiSan:
Sure you want another device...? :confused:

You can try selling your Note 2 and use the proceeds plus the additional funds to get a Note 4?

Or...you know...keep your money until you have a need. :p
[General Questions and Answers] D4rkD4ni:
i actually got this money for my birthday and i so far i didnt get anything for my bday so i feel like should get something yeah know? :P also i put the Ditto Note 4 rom on the Note 2 so i got all the Note 4 features on it
[General Questions and Answers] MiyagiSan:
Sadly, there is no list that I know of. The list above is a good starting point for questions to ask about the phones you have on your shortlist.

Some examples (when bought unlocked and not from a carrier):

- Google Nexus Devices

- Any recent Sony Xperia with a Qualcomm SoC (the Acro S and M2 Aqua are cheap waterproof phones)

- Motorola Moto X, Moto G, Moto E, Moto Maxx (not the Droid Turbo sibling - it is locked)

- OnePlus One

- Oppo Find 5

- Samsung S3/S4/S5 (Qualcomm models - only specific versions of Android can be rooted check, assume Knox will be tripped)

- LG G2/G3

- HTC One M8

- Android One phones (a rare example of MediaTek devices that pass the test)

This list is not complete.

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U got the money. That's better than a gift you might not like... :D
[General Questions and Answers] noonegreat:
p

Hello.

Time for me to change the phone. Now I have android and my next smartphone doesn't need to be android too. From device I require fast work and not lags. Cash I can give is around 180-250$ (140-190€). Smartphone should be new. It will be mainly for surfing on the internet so it should have a big, but not too big, screen, I want to have it in my pocket with comfort. It should also have a not bad camera, I mean, images don't need to be in great quality, but I want sharp photos taking by "trembling hands". I want the good battery too. I won't be angry if it will have a durable case.

I look forward to your proposals. Thanks.

PS: sorry for my English if I make fault.
[General Questions and Answers] SnowJim:
Thanks!!

The Sony Z3 compact lookt really nice in the store but after readint it seems to be way to fragile to last a couple of years. The OnePlus One is nice but a bit of the problem with qulity control and support. I like the Samsung S3 I got but I really dont like that its locked in, Samsung have not reased any software for the LTE so stable no custom or port roms exists and I supose its the same for the Samsung S5?

I took a look on the LG G3 and it looks really great!! but is its software really released? Will we see more custom roms for this phone? And could it live more then 2 years in software updates?
[General Questions and Answers] MiyagiSan:
The list is not complete but has enough on it for a significant number of people to find something to like. If you don't like the Z3, how about the S5? Or the LG G2 or G3? or the HTC M8?

Despite Samsung's hostility to it's more informed customers, the Galaxy S5 with Qualcomm SoC remains (for me) the flagship to measure others by - water/dust-resistance, microsd slot, user-removable battery. As long as you can unlock bootoader and root the device, the sky really is the limit.

I want to love the Sony Xperia series (Sony is the most developer-friendly manufacturer imho) but, I don't much care for a "premium" glass/metal combination because they can result in brittle devices. "Premium design" isn't of value to me but, your device can survive occasional drops without a $50+ repair bill is of value (spoken from experience of an iPhone 4S vs Galaxy S2). I do have Xperia devices though...

I don't have an LG G3. Have a look at the forums to judge whether it is right to expect that it will still enjoy support in 2 years time. That the HTC Desire and ZTE Blade are still supported is astounding. Frankly, they can be my daily driver in a pinch. That's the value of 3rd party developer support...

EDIT: Just wanted to say that if I owned a Z3 Compact, it will last as long as I want it without glass-breaking issues. I don't mistreat devices that cost me a leg...putting it in a back pocket? Strewth!!
[General Questions and Answers] SnowJim:
But what does this really mean? If there is know released software for the phone I suspect that there will always be bad bugs in the alternativ roms? Like GPS, Blutooth or maby even LTE not working properly.

I have put the S5 on the list but does this really mean that Samsung have released the software for the phone?

Agree, I like the phones but Im aiming to have the phone for at least 2 years and a phone that can break even of it self is not the way to go :( . Its however nice to see that the company is providing the software for the phone but in this case there is parts missing so the question is how good a alternativ rom really could be?

But the complete software is relesed from LG right?

Hehe yes of course but I have read that the glass can break from internal tear and thats not uncomon. But I think its strange that thay run this custruction over serveral modells year after year, eather its not really a big problem or... I dont know?
[General Questions and Answers] Gdtav:
Maybe you could try the Moto E? Heard really good things about it :)
[General Questions and Answers] MiyagiSan:
It means you can have updates regardless of what Samsung decides. Find a stable release of a custom rom that has everything you need working.

It's great that there are people out there working very hard to ensure our devices are getting updates long after manufacturers have abandoned them. You can support them with donations or by contributing yourself - testing releases, providing documentation, helping others out etc

The software that your phone comes with will continue to work so, if you like it, stick with it. Many people do.

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I am not convinced by claims that the glass simply breaks by itself. The same construction technique is used on the Z/Z1/Z2/Z3 and the tablets too. I have personal experience with the Z1 and the 10 inch tablets and my impression is that the glass might break if you dropped it, sat on it, drove over it or smacked it with a hammer.

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That is a healthy budget and you have a lot of choice. Here's a Moto X for $230 plus shipping for instance. If you don't exclude buying used, you can also look at the LG G2, Sony Xperia Z2, Samsung Galaxy S4 (Qualcomm cpu only), OnePlus One, Google Nexus 4, maybe even a Nexus 5...

Lots of choices at that price point.
[General Questions and Answers] MBurns2:
is it possible that on android there are only to companies that allows root on their devices? i'm speaking about Google and lg.. it's a shame
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
Huh?
[General Questions and Answers] MBurns2:
with google and lg you can unlock bootloader without invalidating warranty. With other companies if you unlock the bootloader you invalidates your warranty.
[General Questions and Answers] jshamlet:
Unless the carrier forbids it, in which case you are down to Google. The AT&T LG G3 has an unlockable bootloader, just like the Samsung phones. Workarounds exist, but the fact is, the bootloader is locked up tighter than a drum.
[General Questions and Answers] Akki duke:
I need suggestion over mobile

Hi guys i m new here

I need to buy a new phone.

Which phone is better b/w sony xperia sp vs moto g?

I have to choose b/w these mobiles.
[General Questions and Answers] josfr4ncisco:
Since it's almost Black Friday, I've decided to buy a new smartphone, since my last one "passed out".

I'm thinking about ASUS Zenfone 5 or Motorola Moto G (2nd. generation). Which one should I pick?
[General Questions and Answers] MBurns2:
true..

so in the future ? if someone wants to change rom without invalidating warranty the only choice will be: nexus series, lg (if you live in europe), oneplus and maybe android one..
[General Questions and Answers] ANDR01DN00B:
Okay, here's my situation: I found a cheap Lg G3 unlocked 32gb (<$350), and I could buy it NOW. Or, I could wait until mid-May of 2015 (about 5 months) and buy a Nexus 6 (on contract At&t for $250). Which one should I buy?

Thanks.
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
If you're talking about the 2013 Moto G, I'd say the Xperia SP is the superior device. That might depend on where you are though - the Moto G LTE works on North American LTE bands (and other GSM bands elsewhere), and the SP has 2 different models, one for North America, one for elsewhere. If LTE is not a concern, I would still definitely go with the Xperia SP, if you're OK with the extra cost. Your use of the word "mobile" would suggest to me that you're in Europe, where the LTE Moto G wouldn't give you LTE, but it's still better than the regular version because it has the microSD card.

If you're talking about the 2014 Moto G....I'd still go with the Xperia SP, but that's my personal opinion. Unless you just really want the bigger screen. The dual front speakers on the Moto G are nice though.

The SP's dual core 1.7GHz Snapdragon S4 Pro should outperform the 1.2GHz quad core S400 the Moto G's have, and the graphics processor on the SP is definitely better than the Moto G's. And then there's that light bar on the SP for notifications. That thing is seriously cool as hell.

If I might though, let me suggest 2 alternatives in this price range. First is the Nexus 4. You can pick one up for pretty cheap off eBay or Swappa. It out performs both of these phones and has more development available than you can shake a stick at. Better processor, and 2GB of RAM. The other would be the 2013 Motorola Moto X (particularly the Developer Edition).
[General Questions and Answers] Akki duke:
Yeah i need to choose b/w Moto G 2014 vs Sony Xperia SP.I am from India.Although As about the Moto G,people says that Moto G has nearly stock os and android L.It doesn't have bloatware.So Moto G will perform better than Xperia SP?Free Ram = More Performance

Both phones are coming nearly equal price at around 226 US Dollar(the value of money differs).

I have one more doubt as SP is stuck on buggy 4.3 isn't it is a bad thing.

The Nexus 4 is out of stock in every store here.

And yeah thanks for the reply.
[General Questions and Answers] Akki duke:
here Xperia Sp is available with LTE and Moto G not.

I am confused which phone i should buy?
[General Questions and Answers] MiyagiSan:
Try the Moto X (2013) then.

Is LTE available to you where you are in India? Is it fast enough to justify worrying about it? Is it affordable enough that it will be something you use a lot?
[General Questions and Answers] Stuart Little:
I don't really understand you're question...

Anyway almost all manufacturers are offering rootable phones.

Some are having their own root methods and some can be rooted by universal root methods
[General Questions and Answers] huedrant:
Suggestion for old flashable Devices

Hi,

I actually look for a rather old tablet that is able to be flashed with KitKat. I had very good experiences upgrading my aged Samsung Galaxy SL to KitKat with NamelessROM, and now I'd love to find a tablet that has a active Dev community which already brought a stable KitKat ROM to their device.

No matter what the Manufacturer is, I just would like to find some cheap device on eBay and brush it up with KitKat.

Any Suggestions?
[General Questions and Answers] MBurns2:
sorry if i wasn't clear.

The fact is that with google and lg you can unlock bootloader without invalidating warranty. With other companies if you unlock the bootloader you invalidates your warranty.

If i'm not wrong, for motorola/htc/sony you have to send your imei to the company (if you want to unlock bootloader), after that you are without warranty..
[General Questions and Answers] Stuart Little:
Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4

Ah okayy, i don't know
[General Questions and Answers] bravoI9100:
Hi,

I'm searching for a 7 or 8 inch tablet under 200$. It should have a Micro SD Port. No 3g or 4g needed.

Thanks!:)
[General Questions and Answers] mrrocketdog:
Q = am leaning hard towards the S5 to replace my dying, sniffle sniffle, S3. any comments/concerns/opinions/links would be appreciated. main +'s for S5, for me, removable battery and ext.SDslot.

thank you all.

"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
[General Questions and Answers] Akki duke:
Moto X is out of my budget.LTE is not my priority.
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
LG G3 also has a removable battery and SD card slot. Tough choice between the two, as they both have advantages over the other. S5 has waterproofness, a more vibrant screen, and will be more familiar to you coming from the S3. The LG G3 has a higher-res screen, doesn't have any of that KNOX crap, and the extra gig of RAM will make it more future proof. Both have excellent cameras, so you can't go wrong either way in that department.

Of these 2, I'd personally go with the LG G3.
[General Questions and Answers] huedrant:
That seems rather new. I explicitly look for an old one that has no official support anymore but can be updated with unofficial KitKat.
[General Questions and Answers] Stuart Little:
Is it because of your financial situation that you prefer old tablets with unofficial kitkat upgrade?

Than i would recommend the Nexus 7 ( 2012 or 2013 ) . both are easy capable for kitkat.