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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] drbveb88:
Wow.. Has this become a "lets attack Joelz" thread. I came back to see if there were any updates and all that's been updated are personnel attacks on the guy. I can't speak on the history of BAMF but I know Joelz work on my rezound and while it took a little bit longer than others it was always a Rom that pushed the limits of what the phone could do.

Personally at this point we have a number of touchwiz stuff and aosp roms.

Generally they are all very similar. I hope Joelz extra time will allow him to put something out there that is unique and different from what we have already.

If this Rom comes out and is very stable, has some extra features and we all seem to love it. Will it really matter if it took two months?

Another thing.... Joelz first tried porting a linaro build but the conversion was just to much. So he went back to porting paradigm. He has not been calling everyone suckers and doing nothing.

Developers have lives people!! Some busier than others, let us appreciate the time and effort they put into this. I donated because I appreciate what it takes to do this and because I can't do this myself.Not to give me entitlement to demand things.

Thanks again Joel and all the developers that make this website great!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
Funny, your name is not listed as a donator in the first post....:confused:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] blestsol:
Research devs before donating.

Joel is a busy dude with school and the rezound the galaxy Nexus and being in high school and being young with a girlfriend. Couldn't imagine him ditching school and his girl to code things lol.

I told y'all Joel takes his time lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] drbveb88:
Yeah I missed the money donation but I sent Joelz-- an incipio case and a Sgp crystal screen protector.

I donated on his rezound roms and I have donated to a number of other devs.

It is only one man's opinion but I donate because how fun and incredible these developers make our phones. I donate for their time not so I can demand things in return.

I've donated to cancer research every year, am I gonna sit here and ***** that they haven't found a cure yet? I just know that it helps the cause and people are working hard. Same goes for the developers... they are working hard at this stuff and most of the time you see the results. In Joelz case it might takea little longer but I have faith that it will come and it will be a kick ass rom.

I am not trying to start any war of words just giving my .02 cents.

Edit. I am not by any means comparing roms to cancer.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fix-this!:
if myn has one why aren't we seeing a warm based rom? or is he still on sprint?

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you need to chill dude, it's a darn phone. we have plenty of other good devs and roms to choose from. until we get the jb ota don't expect alot. also as far as a dev screwing the rezound community that was protekk

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i checked and there were several beta roms by bamf for the tbolt.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nosympathy:
He didn't push the boundaries on the rezound. That was done by another dev with his sense 4.0 XXX ROM. Same dev that fixed RIL and Bluetooth and had the first working port. Joelz is no different from apple with your statement. Use other people's work, claim it as revolutionary.

To the other comment, yes it is just a phone, but it is a 600 dollar phone that you guys donated to a dev for free to him. Then he doesn't release anything? Where is my 600 dollar phone. As a first time dev I have produced more ROMs for this phone and did it in a one month period and helped other devs in the beginning in getting ROMs 100% perfect, all while not asking for a dime.

Right about now I feel more deserving than he does.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tonu42:
And THATS why most people dont see a dime from me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] heffe2001:
I was getting ready to suggest this, as it gives the donors their rom, and they are the only people who really should be concerened.

And as for BAMF not releasing betas, they probably don't on Paradigm (I've not seen one, but haven't looked really), but they definitely have on other roms for the TBolt.

I'll say kudos for sending those who donated a beta, should hold them over for a while.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fix-this!:
i donate occasionally but i would never buy anyone a phone. if they want one, save for it.

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yeah i know there was alpha and betas for the thunderbolt, i remember using them.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] josh995:
Woah. I don't know anything about this issue, but I've honestly never seen so much hate in one thread.

And y'all are still going on and on, even after a moderator has told you all twice to stop.

Sad.

That's all. Bye bye.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fix-this!:
theres no bashing, we were chatting which is what a forum is for.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] josh995:
Read through at least the last 10 pages. There's plenty of bashing and hateful words.

That's all. I won't be coming back to this sad thread, that should have been locked long ago.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] drbveb88:
I'm done also. I did not intend to insult anyone or derail this thread.

Anybody that has an issue with what I said can send me a pm.

Again, I want to express my thanks and appreciation to all the devs, themers, moderators and everyone who helps makes this site incredible.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
If believe he's still on Sprint but that's based on his created threads.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
That's correct, you can find Myn over in the Sprint S3 section. He finally left HTC devices. Now he just needs to leave Sprint.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fix-this!:
i just checked and i don't see any roms by him. i used to love his work on the evo4g. how about we donate for a warm rom? ;) j/k of course.

seems to me the sprint gs3 has a bit more development than we do. i guess the locked bootloader at first put alot of devs off.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Hero:
Myn has an S3 and yes he is on Sprint. The Warm ROM will be based on the official Sprint JB release and will work for

all carriers

. However, like Joelz said we have just started to work on it because the official JB release was released not too long ago. You aren't going to see a Warm ROM pop up in a matter of days.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] heffe2001:
Lets be honest here, weren't ALL roms for the Thunderbolt pretty much alpha/beta, even the OTA ones, lol. (And yes, I had one up until last Monday, so I can bash the Tbolt all I want, I earned the right, lol).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fix-this!:
yeah i really 'tried" to like my thunderbolt lol.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] con247:
A) The donated phone was purchased for $300. So not $600.

B) You had to run someone else's rom? Sorry you experienced bugs. Be glad you weren't stuck on Rezound Gingerbread until August.

C) You have produced more ROMs? Please. You released a stock rooted which hasn't even been updated for over 2 months. Stock rooted isn't rocket science. That doesn't mean it wasn't useful or appreciated however.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] shawnten:
I am getting a kick out of all of these grown men crying. It has been entertainment for days now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] MFD00M:
Best part of this bs thread....Warm rom for the S3. Best news I've heard since owning this phone. Myn and Team Warm put out top notch work. Ran all their roms on my OG Evo and Evo 3D. Big part of why I got into the whole root scene. Can't wait!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
If you're looking for updates, you're in the wrong thread ;)

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I love how now this team says they just "got a leak so building will start" when earlier in the thread they say they don't build off leaks or release betas. Then Joelz says "PM me for a beta". Lol. Which one is it, guys? Also, that Sprint leak is TW, not AOSP. Thought you were building AOSP, per your screenie the other day? You guys remind me of a combination of Fox News + my ex-wife. Spin city full of excuses...

I'm going to find what Butch did to the x2 community and post it here. You need to read it to know how BAMF rolls.

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As promised: http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/2486-BAMF-Mail-A-ROM-for-Droid-X2---Progress!

In the sales arena, we call this a bait-and-switch. Starting to look eerily familiar here, with BAMF making nothing but excuses for why they can't fulfill their obligation. And yes, it is an obligation when the community buys you a device and you promise them a build in return. If Android had the Better Business Bureau, you'd be rated F.

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I've heard of nosympathy, as have many others.

Who are you again? I see a developer tag, but no development. Never heard of you...so you must not be any good. Or, you are a member of BAMF - which explains why I haven't seen your work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] blestsol:
Whoa there sir, that's Con! :mad:

Phone is worth 600 is what he probably meant. The
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Who? Never heard of him...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] blestsol:
He's done some roms and development for the rezound.

Rude but he gets things done. I hear his rom was pretty good.

Check out the rezzy forum.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Nah....I've got devs who aren't rude whose stuff I run -- for nothing upfront.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
Bluetooth fix was thanks to new ville c2 and ril fix was 100% inc 4g.......looks like you listen to all the lies he tells you lol...most of the fixes in that ROM are from Team virtuous if not all he just makes you believe he spent 2 months on something that wasn't his
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
Why do you have to be so rude? He hasn't even said anything to you but you feel the need to bash him....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
I'm blunt - not rude. And I was backing NoSympathy. If you can dish it - you better be able to take it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
That's what she s... on second thought that's too far.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] con247:
I'm rude because nobody f*cking searches before asking a question.

1) GS3 automatic splash screen converter & flasher

2) Ported TWRP to the Rezound & Dinc 4G LTE

3) Custom Rezound Sense rom

4) Method for flashing splash screens via recovery on the Rezound

5) Made S-ON kernel flashing automatic and fastboot free on the Rezound

6) One XL- Keep userdata & apps through bootloader unlock

7) Recovery scripting to detect Rezound S-OFF/S-ON status & Hboot version to flash appropriate libs based on hboot version. Also determined how the kernel should be flashed because S-OFF/S-ON were quite different. First to have Universal S-ON/S-OFF and ICS/GB firmware roms in a single zip

8) 1st Perma-temp root for the Rezound

9) Ported Sense 2.0 from Inc 1 to Desire CDMA

10) Rezound nandroid helper (another S-ON workaround)

11) Automatic Rezound mainver fix

Good enough for you? I have never heard of you either and I see your only posts are complaining about Joelz and posting a few TW mod requests and 2 reviews. I believe I have made the XDA news page 2 or 3 times.

Take your own advice:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ct_tec313:
I just got finished popping some popcorn.....im ready y'all can continue......this will definitely keep us occupied until the jellybean leak or rom drops..this sh!t is definitely better than reality t.v... almost as good as Sons of Anarchy!!!!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] voodoomanx:
And in two months...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
I'm a user, a user who has got more thanks on this thread than you. That seems to show whose view on this situation is more well received.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
Actually, Con is a good dude and is always willing to help folks out. I do believe Joel is a good guy as well which is kind of why people are scratching their head on this one.

There are some good valid points throughout this thread and maybe some lessons learned can come out of this. I think everyone has said their peace and had every right to as this is an open forum.

Now it looks like the convo is going further away from the main topic and the purchase of a device for someone so how about we all agree to move on and go back to enjoying our S3 and getting along like we all do, or at least until the next heated debate comes about.

The Rezound forum was full of so much hate, would be a shame if this section turns out like that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
And I'm not afraid to debate. It's my speciality ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
Yeah, we can see that and I agree with a lot of your points you have made. The problem is while some people can debate and shake hands at the end, sometimes it becomes a little to personal.

Like I said, Con is a good guy and has helped lots of people, same goes for Joel. While I do not agree with what happened here I do not think we should be questioning their support to this community. They have both been great assets to XDA.

Just maybe next time people will have to buy their own device...lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
You said many wise things there. Respect.

Con made it personal with NoSympathy. That's when I got personal with him. My whole thing is, I'm trying to open some eyes. So many gullible people can be fed a pipe dream. Nothing was happening here. You know what I accomplished? I brought this thread up high (where many people saw and commented) and got Joelz to speak up. And guess what? Y'all got your beta now.

Achievement unlocked. You're welcome. I HIGHLY doubt you would have a beta build today if I didn't raise such a ruckus. I'm not an ego maniac or anything, but I've done this before. You're welcome also, Liquid users - I forced their hand on the last build by doing the same thing.

Do I run either? Nope. Did I benefit from this thread? Nope. I'm passionate about android. I took time away from my girlfriend and kid to comment in this thead. Lol. Did I have to? No. I wanted to. I felt you guys got a raw deal. My time is valuable to me, so I have to be passionate about something to invest in thid thread like I did. You guys that donated benefited. I did not.

Don't always think I'm the bad guy. Maybe I just use unconventional methods ;)

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Con,

I shouldn't have personally went after you. I felt offended as you attacked NoSympathy and I've benefited from his work. Doesn't matter though -- unacceptable on my part. Not looking to get an apartment or anything, just an honest apology.

Sincerely,

The Wolfe

Xoxoxoxoxoxoxo
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kintwofan:
Wolf I like you for your help and work in getting Eclipse to the s3. As I was reading this thread i was starting to think what a jerk.

Now I'm confused if you're a genius or insane.... I'm thinking maybe a bit of both!

Sent from my SGS3 running Eclipse 2.1
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jackpot08:
This thread>>>> Jersey shore drama lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ct_tec313:
I can honestly say, while i don't always agree with one man wolf pack, i can honestly say he brings up valid points, it kind of raised some eye browse when i first saw this thread but it if people want to donate, its their money and they can do what they want....but here' s what's bringing me to comment, i just donated to kinda of crap and he told me i'm the first person to donate to the mods this guy has been holding it down for months not only with his mods but with helping others as well... its damn shame that no one has has donated to him yet, but y'all giving people money to get phones (nothing against this guy) and i'm sure more than some of you has downloaded his mods or used wasabi theme and i'm the first to donate?....just food for thought........
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tykalx:
Im just glad dudes were able to speak their minds without this being locked since it's a forum and its topic related.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] WizeGuyDezignz:
I must thank you all for the great laughs. I was literally laughing out loud catching up on the past few pages. My girlfriend kept asking me what was so funny lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fix-this!:
con your a great guy but i disagree. im sick of the saying on here "search" sometimes it's better to just answer the question.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] RCOVA:
+1 because instead of wasting one post answering the question you have to post "search before posting" then the other guy replies to you and instead of using one or two posts you waste like 10. And then people complain about cluttering up the thread and im just like dafuq?

Sent from CNA
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] con247:
Its for learning purposes. When I tell someone to search, I hope the next time they are thinking, "I'm gonna post a question" they will search. Also if it isn't a common thing but I remember seeing it in one of the hundreds/thousands of posts I read, I will run a search and find it myself before I tell them to search. If I can find it with the xda search button from the root of the forum or by using "site:xdaforums.com" in google they can too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] quepaso:
Truth is, you just wasted everyones time and look like a prick in the process (mission accomplished i guess for you however). You could just answer them, then say "btw, if you used the search here and typed in "blah blah", you can find answers to your questions without asking anyone or posting threads. good luck!". But nope, you choose to be a prick.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] RCOVA:
Yeah I guess. But after all the time I've been here at XDA no one has learned. It's just how the world is. People want to be fed everything. But you got to look at the big picture. This is a forum. And a forum is a place where people look for help. I love XDA. It's a nice place to look for help when people aren't douchebags, And by you choosing not answer and basically saying "f**k you and find it yourself" you are depriving the asker of what they were looking for by joining this community, help from others.

Sent from CNA
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Addiso:
Will you help me with my debate in history class? :P lol sorry wolf pack makes sense I'd have him as my mentor aha

Sent from my Goonified Paranoid Jelly Droid Incredible 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TechSavvy2:
Two days ago, in a certain thread, someone asked a question that was asked and directly answered LITERALLY two posts above his.....even on the same page......And people think we should still answer it again anyways because it makes it a more comfortable environment? And this happens every day, all day. All threads.

Sorry, but I agree with Con......it sucks to upset whomever, but eventually they do learn to use the search function. I've been in those shoes many of times.

With regards to Joelz.....people donated so he could buy a phone. Did it explicitly say people would get a ROM by X date? No. You donated knowing only one fact......that he would get a phone.

One Man Wolf Pack......in your anger storm you threw a tissy about them saying they don't build off leaks.....then raged about beta being built off sprint leaks.......just wanted to clear up one fact for you. Sprint Official OTA for JB was released and that was what was built off of. Not a leak. Same as a lot of other roms being rebased lately. You may have wanted to check your facts before raging that much. And I liked the rant about how you "gave up your personal time to come here and make the community aware". I think I can speak for many when I say ?!@#?!%!?!@????????????? Yes, maybe you got your point across and a beta was sent, but it was very much NOT enjoyable to watch.....Am I the only one who processes the fact that this beta you supposed got released for everyone started being built 2 days ago? While I don't doubt the quality of Joelz work, I've ran MANY of his builds on HTC phones and enjoyed them loads, I would have preferred a beta that was worked on for more than 2 days. Thanks for that.

Donate for what a Dev HAS done, or for appreciation, rather than for what you WANT them to do......
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
The build date was laughable. Then, all of a sudden they're building off of a Sprint JB Leak/official/whatever. So....we go from an AOSP screenshot and "it's coming" to now "we're building off the Sprint yada yada" it reeks like poop! Lol. Get outta here.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nosympathy:
I'm sorry you were not here then. In the beginning nobody could figure out how to deodexe the stock roms for this phone. I did. In hours. First person to figure it out after me was Scott. It took him much longer than it did me.

I served my purpose here. I did more than push a few buttons like most people that release stock deodexe roms do. I also stopped because honestly Scott is much faster at getting them out and since Scott knows how to deodexe them properly now, why would I release an identical ROM to him?

Plenty of originals to this phone know who I am.

Edit: I do like the fact this thread is still open, mostly because it feels like he isn't being protected by the mods again. That was how it felt with the rezound. Every time joelz got called out, a mod would shut down the thread and then act like it didn't happen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Thadrow:
Sorry. Not true. Yes he did make ril fix for sense 4. And he modded it better with the inc 4g rom. Bluetooth was nothing ville. Oh can i mention you werent close to solving bluetooth when he had the fix? You gave up at one point i remember. Newt was waiting for you to release it to see if you had copied again.

Anyway. No knock on you just dont bash a guy who opened the doors to your s4 roms or esle you would probably been non existent in rezound deving. I remember you trying to do ril with months of no progress. He was always first. Always. And you came later. And now that aokp has a great milestone i wouldnt be surprised if you merged from them and claim you have a stable aosp.

Anyway. You shouldnt have accepted this device if your that busy. Rezound forums you stopped progress for so much reasons. You have rez, gn, g3 with nothing to show. Its kinda your fault.

And honestly other devs were more deserving cause their track records but their bounties are overlooked. Popularity in xda gets you this kind of drama.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] blestsol:
Slightly in Joels defense.. Charles said it's his fault that the viper rom hasn't been updated since July.