yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
I don't mind that, I respect users' choice. Especially when it's for a good ROM like rasbeanjelly. I'll tell you the differences:

Strawberry:

- IME switcher mod

- CM bionic repo

- CM clock (stopwatch and timer)

- CM calculator (more like xlythe calculator but whatever)

- CM telephony for killing some drains @ crespo

- custom IOCTL support for killing some more drains @ crespo

- Scrolling cache and some other very minor performance adjustments

- A clean kernel with an improved ondemand and other neat stuff like our friend deadlinez0r (voided by custom kernel @ ras)

Rasbeanjelly:

- slight UI customization (blue stuff afaik)

- boot animation quality improvements

- built in busybox, gapps and superuser

- lockscreen features

I think that's it, what I didn't mention it's common to both and may I add that some of it comes from rascarlo himself.
[Nexus S Android Development] Scofield.:
The caller picture is broken for me, i think the picture should be more further down. Or am I wrong?

Strawberry and Chocolate giving me the same result.

What it should look like (CM):
[Nexus S Android Development] stojshic:
Yup, same here. When I first bought Crespo, I always tried ROMs that had biiiig feature lists, and how time passed, I realized most of the stuff is just bloat, so now I always go for AOSP experience. I love stable ROMs. In strawberry i was attracted by IOCTL, not so much by cm calc and other. I never heard of it before, but if it really saves battery, should be good enough for me. And also, hypothalamus should be quality kernel, so no problem in (relatively) not being able to change it...
[Nexus S Android Development] sdhanjal15:
Idle at school....
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Intensive use today (3 hours screen, GPS, 3G/data most time), attached.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
I'm pretty sure if you disable Location & Google Search (in location settings) the high Android OS stat will reduce.
[Nexus S Android Development] z3r0_x:
If you could include that in Strawberry it would amazing! ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] sdhanjal15:
Didn't realize that was on. Haha thanks
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Sorry but I will never add lockscreen stuff to chocolate/strawberry.
[Nexus S Android Development] curenei:
how to update to strawberry coming from chocolate?
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Flash ROM, wipe dalvik (long boot but you won't lose data). Flash patch.

Optional: flash supersu & gapps.

I find the discrepancy between the ROM and patch downloads somewhat disturbing. If one of these days someone posts saying that their CRT screen-off animation is ****ed I will go berserk on him, just saying.
[Nexus S Android Development] kleineronkl:
its realy hard to choose...strawberry or rascarlos great rom :)

i miss only one feature in strawberry..the expanded volume panel. maybe in the next release?

otherwise its nearly perfect...keep it clean, no unnecessary stuff like theme chooser or so...

maybe center clock option?

thanks for your work knzo
[Nexus S Android Development] vis80k:
trying strawberry. all smooth and good.

one thing I miss is the easy brightness control from rasbean and other jb roms. but I will stick around and check out how the battery fares...as that is the main fix I hope to see in strawberry. :) along with many other fixes you've put in.
[Nexus S Android Development] capoooro:
I confirm that strawberry works smooth with cm verison of bedalus kernel.

Tnx
[Nexus S Android Development] stojshic:
Ohh, I didn't realize strawberry doesn't have brightness slider :(

+1 for that, I really got used to it, as I never use auto brightness...
[Nexus S Android Development] lionhe:
Trouble with Google play music streaming msic

I'm using Chocolate 13/09 version (last available) with thalamus kernel+bln+ondmenad.

I've added the music2.apk taken from the thread. I'm using the google account to store songs.

while listening to streaming music, time to time I hear glitches.

I've noticed in the logcat these lines appearing slightly after the glitches

W/Audio Watchdog: Insufficient CPU for load: expected 50.0 actual 103.0 ms; underruns 160 logs 19

Is this behavior kernel or governor related? Or is it a bug of the application?

It seems related to the fact that the nexus is downloading music while playing. In fact it never happen for music on the SD card.

Do you also experience this problem?

EDIT: By flashing Thalamus-BLN, this problem does not occur anymore. Thanks for your suggestions

Thank you for your attention,

LionHe
[Nexus S Android Development] jerrymouse12:
Yes I do experience this. But even with music that is stored on SD card (not just streaming). Same logcat behaviour.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
I believe it is a kernel problem per se, although you could maybe mitigate the issue by ramping up the minimum frequency OR using a more aggressive governor. Don't take my word for it though, it's an idea and not the absolute truth here.
[Nexus S Android Development] madd0g:
You can try the interactive version of the kernel, then you'll know if its kernel itself or the governor. I believe it's named thalamus-BLN.zip.
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
I'll try to replicate it but I use Google Music daily (with offline music) and it works fine. Try Strawberry though.
[Nexus S Android Development] WarCow:
Cool thanks, solved it for me. Was having the same problem in Spotify and YouTube
[Nexus S Android Development] curenei:
what kernel is stable for strawberry?
[Nexus S Android Development] acrossy:
The stock one? Assuming that "stock" means the one you're flashing over with the "patch" zip...

Anyway, so far so good! I'm enjoying the latest rom (strawberries with cream = win :D)

For me works fast, it's stable and no random reboots whatsoever has all the features I need and I'm even noticing a somewhat better battery management!

Good job on this one Knzo!

So far to be honest this JB rom is the one that lasted longer for me, battery wise that is, but lets not go there. ^^;
[Nexus S Android Development] curenei:
yeah thanks.
[Nexus S Android Development] al_madd:
So far so good for strawberry version..although im feel a little lagging compare to chocolate version..

Any plan for apple or blackberry version?:p
[Nexus S Android Development] :
I noticed the same thing. Stutters on scrolling, and sometimes doesn't react to fast touches
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Assuming you're using your kernel, the only change that could explain that (if it's true & happens with other kernels) is the custom IOCTL.

I don't really notice any slowdown but to be honest I'm not very good at objectively comparing smoothness in moments distanced in time.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
I'm definitely not certain, but maybe i could video chocolate vs strawberry to illustrate how scrolling appears to have deteriorated. Is that useful?
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Hm, not really haha. If it's true then it's the custom IOCTL fault but I won't revert it. If it's false, well, I won't revert it anyway.

You can do it but the only purpose will be to take the doubt off our minds. :P
[Nexus S Android Development] Scofield.:
I love this ROM, but i've also noticed some minimal lag on the strawberry ROM. In my opinion it's because of the custom IOCTL. After CM has implement it, it's feel a little bit laggy too.

Going back to chocolate.

And one more thing, are there any plans to fix this:

The caller picture is kinda broken on incoming call.

What it should look like (CM):

It's the only thing I don't like about this ROM.

Thanks for the great ROM, knzo.
[Nexus S Android Development] mellocello83:
I too notice more of an ICS scrolling with Strawberry version flashed over Chocolate. Also, when i fast type on the stock keyboard, there are more error fixed leading me to believe that touch inputs are less accurate. Still running fast otherwise.
[Nexus S Android Development] Pik3no:
I'm almost sure this is not a bug. The black screen is Android default. The transparency was implemented by CM team.
[Nexus S Android Development] Scofield.:
But if the contact has a contact picture, the picture is cut off. I don't think it's the stock behavior.
[Nexus S Android Development] thegtfusion:
is there coming a chocolate or strawberry build for galaxy nexus gsm? maguro? :D
[Nexus S Android Development] lionhe:
Configuration problem with Thalamus -BLN kernel

While looking at the logcat during music playback (I've edited my previous post acknowledging the solution suggested by madd0g)

I noticed that there may be some misconfiguration in the kernel

E/Herring PowerHAL( 250): Error opening /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/sampling_rate: No such file or directory

The kernel is probably using some default hard-coded value. Is it worth fixing?
[Nexus S Android Development] nullbesign:
would you please add a screenshot of your build please
[Nexus S Android Development] Abdsyafii:
kernel

Thank you, running smooth so far. What is better kernel, thalamus 8.20 or thalamus 8.21? at dropbox thalamus 8.21 deleted?
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
What do you mean? It's AOSP vanilla, I didn't change anything.

I renamed 8.21 to 8.20.
[Nexus S Android Development] _yaz_:
works by reflashing. must have been a careless recovery of blnpro :confused:

thanks !
[Nexus S Android Development] apatal:
Very nice work, dev. This seems even faster than my daily driver. Vanilla Android FTW! :highfive:
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Download url updated, there should be no more problems now.
[Nexus S Android Development] Big Dog KMc:
Anyone have the answer to my previous post??
[Nexus S Android Development] dinuvali:
it's not pre-rooted and you don't lose root either.

Flash a su or supersu after flashing the rom and that's it.
[Nexus S Android Development] 1PATRIK:
Anybody else missing music from the app and also ringtones missing? Anyway to get those ones show up again. They are still located on SD
[Nexus S Android Development] Big Dog KMc:
Thank you very much for your quick response.

I just did not like the idea of trying new Roms/Kernels and not having any way back to true stock that does not required a fast boot image erasing everything and starting over.

Unless I am mistaken and doing a fast boot does not erase all of the SD card.

I'm still new to this Nexus S stuff and find that it is different than the vibrant in how Roms and root are handled.

With the vibrant, just Odin back to stock and done. All is still on the SD card.

Thanks again.

Sent from my Nexus S on OTA Jelly Bean.
[Nexus S Android Development] p.pavljasevic:
Same is true for ns, but now you have to use fastboot. Or try rommanager. You can make an image of your install and restore without the need for a computer.
[Nexus S Android Development] Pik3no:
The links to _thalamus kernels are based on what version?

kernel-S5PC110-3.0.31-28JB_test-JB-20120810-205044.zip

or

kernel-i9023-S5PC110-3.0.39-27JB_rel-1-gfdf9f98.zip

You only added the BLN and CRT fix?
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
It's based on the latest changes in his git which corresponds to his latest release (probably his first link).

... I hate those questions.

Since I didn't say here I was running a thalamus-based kernel along with the AOSP (stock kernel) I built, then you must have found it in the directory listing url. Along with the zip files, there' a changelog.txt there which states every change made to the kernel. So tell me, if you read it why are you asking me something you already have the answer for?
[Nexus S Android Development] Pik3no:
I've read it. I was confirming because MadDog already had done this changes on thalamus kernels...

Sorry anyway.
[Nexus S Android Development] madd0g:
Great then, I'm not the only one then who thinks CM10 is crap (sadly, I was a CM9 user before). Don't know what they added to it, it scrolls more ****ty and RAM management makes the phone slow down after more then couple hours. AOSP or stock Google OTA runs so good, that I'm surprised how they managed to do such great work on it.
[Nexus S Android Development] jvpde:
Really? I've had the exact opposite experience. I get app hangs galore on the OTA.
[Nexus S Android Development] nexususer1:
I've been using this rom for a while and I'm still much impressed. Nexus S is s specific device. It needs 2566845 hours of reading, flashing, wiping and adjusting ROMs just to make it work properly... Your ROM combined with Launcher Pro 0.86 does the job just fine. It's fast, transition animations are finally working smooth (thanks to launcher pro, jelly bean stock is just too laggy). I suggest all you who are willing to find a daily driver to use this ROM with thalamus kernel included plus launcher pro launcher. It's really a different league. It just works.
[Nexus S Android Development] ilnanny:
Awesome. Thanks for sharing.

In download.....

Inviato dal mio Crespo
[Nexus S Android Development] imranaryan:
can i flash this directly over 4.0.4 or i have to flash 4.1.1 first and will this work on all the variants of Nexus S lineup 9020/A/T 9023 or M200 (Korean Market)
[Nexus S Android Development] apatal:
Guys, any ideas on how to get G+ instant upload to work in this ROM? Thanks.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] _Drifter_:
I notice a little lag as well, scrolling and in the launcher, on Strawberry of course ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
If it's more laggy than Chocolate, it's the custom IOCTL fault.

Now you can either pick better battery (strawberry) or smoothness (chocolate) haha. As for me, strawberry it is.
[Nexus S Android Development] _yaz_:
yep. the same conclusion ... and the same dilemma :p my vote is also the same, anyway.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
:D
[Nexus S Android Development] stojshic:
knzo, do you have any plans to include brightness slider in strawberry? Or that feature will not be included? Thanks
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
I need to see a screenshot of it or flash a ROM that has it to see what you mean by that. If I like it then I'll add it.
[Nexus S Android Development] dinuvali:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCs6PimukDY

RasBeanJelly and CM9/10 have it.
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Well, I don't find it that useful because you can select the % modes for the brightness power toggle.

I always use 100% or Auto and my OCD wouldn't like to know the brightness % could be some number not multiple of 5.
[Nexus S Android Development] vis80k:
the thing with the toggle is that it's not easy to see what percentage it's at now, and you need to cycle through the whole thing to get to the percentage you want.

if you missed your toggle by a touch, then you have to toggle through another cycle.

that's my use case and was rather frustrated.

anyhow, there are apps out there that pops up a slider to easily change the brightness, so if strawberry has no plan to add this feature, I am fine as well. "quick settings" can be set to pop up anywhere with longpress search key, so for those who don't mind an extra app on strawberry, try it out.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Haha I hear you, although I use the slider myself it's to set it to minimum or maximum. Could put the toggle instead but my OCD likes having less icons in the notification drawer. :angel:
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
You can always cherry-pick it from CM and build it. The source is complete and updated precisely for this reason - anybody with a sufficient know-how or willingness to learn should not feel constrained or imposed by my choices. As for all the others, well, tough luck.
[Nexus S Android Development] shadowx360:
Any one else having battery drain issues on strawberry? Android OS drains twice more than the screen and android system drains as much as the screen. On idle my phone dies after 9 hours with mobile data off.

Also, where are the controls for editing auto brightness?
[Nexus S Android Development] vraciu4you:
Nope... strawberry is sweeeet :D
[Nexus S Android Development] Psych0Chimp:
Delete me.
[Nexus S Android Development] shadowx360:
Well, the issue is that out of the 6 hours since boot, better battery stats says there has been two hours of 200 mhz kernel wake lock from wlan_rx_wake. Any solution besides killing WiFi?

EDIT: This only happens on strawberry, not chocolate. Something tells me it may have something to do with the new "wlan drv" updates posted on the changelog.
[Nexus S Android Development] databoy2k:
Thanks for the Car Home zip... Does anybody have the voice dialer? I use my bluetooth headset far too much to not have it.
[Nexus S Android Development] al_madd:
Confirm this wlan_rx_wake..strange..never have it on nexus..but having this issue with sgs2
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
I only got home now, I'll see what's that wlan thing. Probably next weekend I may have some time for a release.
[Nexus S Android Development] shadowx360:
Thanks for checking. Chocolate has a wlan_rx_wake wakelock for about 12 minutes of every hour, but Strawberry has it for more than half of every hour. I heard it is related to DHCP and dynamic IP addresses, but I'm assigned a static IP address with multiple network access points.

Though apparently CM10 is having it too: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1915859
[Nexus S Android Development] noobiekins:
Will MTP be ever added? It features higher transfer rates than UMS
[Nexus S Android Development] :
You can add it yourself simply by flashing my kernel and reading my OP
[Nexus S Android Development] infernalMan:
does strawberry have touch to focus camera app??
[Nexus S Android Development] Abdsyafii:
No.
[Nexus S Android Development] infernalMan:
thanks dude
[Nexus S Android Development] waterface:
Excuse me. Are you always on 3G with data on? Do you have a stock battery? I am trying to understand why even with a brand new battery I can't go past 10 hours with 2 hours screen on time (no games, just surfing or texting). Thanks for your answer..
[Nexus S Android Development] shadowx360:
Check kernel wake locks with 'betterbatterystats'. Probably same problem as mine.
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...id-4-1-2-update-being-released-to-aosp-today/

So yeah, new releases soon. Weekend perhaps. Maybe sooner.

-- edit: vanilla is coming tonight.
[Nexus S Android Development] Pik3no:
knzo, CM's calculator was removed from Chocolate?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Can you build Vanilla with not deodex?

Do you have Twitter? I would like to know when you'll release new version! ;)

Do you think that 4.1.2 has some binaries and kernel?
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
I see no advantages in odex and I can't be building versions to please everyone...

Yes but I don't use it for XDA stuff. twitter.com/mnlsrv

I haven't looked at it yet but I do know that the binaries haven't been released yet. I'll build with the JRO03R ones. Usually they don't change over versions even though the website shows different md5sum for the package file.

Nope, but chocolate won't be updated anymore. Only vanilla and strawberry.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Now I follow you! Thank you for everything. I'm waiting for your release!
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Tomorrow I'll have a link ready for Vanilla 4.1.2.

I'll only have time for Strawberry in the weekend though.
[Nexus S Android Development] madd0g:
I wonder if they changed anything regarding those Data Stall wakelocks. Here's a git log btw: http://www.funkyandroid.com/aosp-JRO03R-JZO54K.html
[Nexus S Android Development] Pik3no:
What are the binaries for? Drivers?

Nooooooooooooo how do you build a perfect version of Android then discontinue it? :crying:

Okay :( I'll make a sacrifice and use Strawberry :p
[Nexus S Android Development] Lalaca:
Strawberry is an incremental upgrade to Chocolate anyway. All that differs is the extra stuff in the bundled kernel.

Thus, if you use a different custom kernel with Strawberry, it'll be exactly like using Chocolate with that custom kernel.

At least that's how I understand it.
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Uploading vanilla.

Md5sum: 11e81d3d620079167def3b660319d02a
[Nexus S Android Development] Shadster:
Great :)

Just one question, the buid ID for Nexus S isn't JZO54H? Sorry for the silly question, it's just curiosity
[Nexus S Android Development] Pik3no:
Yes it is.
[Nexus S Android Development] mutantlx:
Is it up cos the one on goo is corrupt?
[Nexus S Android Development] madd0g:
Nice work. Binaries are also up now : https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers#crespojzo54k
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
I'll rebuild it with the new binaries then. But it shouldn't really do any difference.
[Nexus S Android Development] madd0g:
Probably yeah and they still need to put the new kernel sources.
[Nexus S Android Development] _yaz_:
yep. i've downloaded five times but all identical. and corrupt :(
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
I downloaded a working copy just now, md5sum: 91a054d0531b25c43b70b81ba4834a1b

why it's different from the one I had before I have no idea.
[Nexus S Android Development] mutantlx:
Dunno but I've tried 4 times on 2 devices (laptop and phone) I'll try again tomorrow.
[Nexus S Android Development] Big Dog KMc:
It took me 2 downloads to get the file.

first time was 92mb in size and could not open it.

second time was 107,098 kb and 7zip test passed.

I got the same md5sum as you.

91a054d0531b25c43b70b81ba4834a1b

I use a stand alone/Non-web md5summer from here

http://www.md5summer.org
[Nexus S Android Development] androidphone2012:
Google Apps, it should do the job?

Formula84

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/31532-gapps-411-438695-jro03r-gapps-package-929/

Download : gapps-jb-20120929-JRO03R-Formula84-PicSync.zip
[Nexus S Android Development] ppamungk:
Still no correct file?? I download couple of times and all of them are corrupt.
[Nexus S Android Development] _yaz_:
as long as the timestamp is the same (2012-10-10 11:30:37 PDT) no point to tamper with. this pack is corrupt as it is.
[Nexus S Android Development] pmdisawesome:
So your file isn't corrupted? Can you upload the working ROM zip file to any other file hosting?

I've downloaded 4 times, all corrupted! :crying:
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Alright alright, I'll reupload it soon.

Done, 0 errors on 7-zip, md5sum: 11e81d3d620079167def3b660319d02a
[Nexus S Android Development] gioyocho1:
knzo

so which is best? Vanilla or Chocolate or Strawberry? i think its all looks like each other. im bored with jelly beans 4.1.1 icons its so sad. and in 4.1.2 version android they not change pictures menu... its so bad... for me its not other vanila or chocolate or strawberry or slim bean or xenon hd and others. when u creating new rom u must change in design many things. sorry
[Nexus S Android Development] Otalgia:
Strawberry is the best for you when I read your message.

But something tells me you are not in the good thread, knzo's roms are just AOSP with a few improvements.
[Nexus S Android Development] madd0g:
Is the Vanilla already with the stock kernel ? Sources were uploaded 13 hours ago (at least JBQ wrote so).
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Vanilla uses a prebuilt image which was already updated.

Kernel sources are a different matter which would only be relevant if the kernel was also built.
[Nexus S Android Development] madd0g:
Yeah I meant the kernel sources, but couldn't edit the post(stupid tapatalk bug).
[Nexus S Android Development] sovo12:
Great rom thx
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Then I don't understand your question. Vanilla uses a prebuilt stock kernel.

So, the fact that kernel sources were released 12 hours ago won't have any effect in vanilla.
[Nexus S Android Development] madd0g:
Ah, it's prebuilt, I thought it needs to be compiled like ROM source, learned something new then:] .

I'll try Vanilla for those Phone locks later.
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
You know that latest chocolate and strawberry don't have those right?
[Nexus S Android Development] gotjazz:
I assume as close as those Roms are to each other it's worth a try flashing strawberry over chocolate without wiping, right?

Would I have to reflash supersu and/or gapps afterwards?