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[General Questions and Answers] tsongming:
The camera is worse than Pixel 2? That is not correct.

The 9T is beautiful. But the Mi9 has more LTE bands and has the exact same camera specs as the Pixel 3 XL You could spend even less and buy Xiaomi's 2018's flagship the Mi8. The camera is absolutely be stellar. ( Stock& and when using the Ported Pixel Mod)

Other great options in your price range. One Plus 6, iPhone 8 or X,( though, iPhones are very limited with customization options) Samsung 8 etc.
[General Questions and Answers] nloding:
Thinking of moving back after 6 years on the iPhone

I'm due for a new phone soon - currently rocking the iPhone XS with a cracked screen - and am strongly considering the move back to Android. I'm not impressed with what I'm getting for the price with the iPhone any longer. I was looking at the OnePlus 7/7T, but, of course, it appears the 8 may be imminent. I had the original OnePlus One and loved it at the time.

Looking for the $500-700 range, give or take. Primary concerns are speed and reliability, followed by the screen, then the camera. I don't do a lot of mobile photography so the camera is a lower concern. Speed and reliable hardware/build are much more a concern of mine, but I'm not sure those a really valid concerns at this point. Default OS is also negotiable, I don't mind throwing a different ROM on there. Some sort of water proofing/resistance and wireless charging would be nice but aren't requirement. I'm in the US, currently with AT&T.

I think the OnePlus 7 or 7T are my best bet for the money. Any other suggestions I should be looking into? Is there any compelling reason to wait for the OnePlus 8? Someone recommended the Mi 9T or Realme X2 too. Thoughts?
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Well, oneplus 8 might be great, but feels like overpriced piece of glass nowadays. Personally I use an Xiaomi Note 8 pro. Two days battery, very good performance (mostly music, movies and a light game). Camera would be an 8/10, phone is quite sturdy. The os is good, xiaomi does provides ways of customizing your phones. They are also open to third-party customization, roms and such. Ads aren't bothering at all, hidden quite well. Also you can disable them all after a tutorial of like 10 min. You could go with mid-range phones instead of using flagships. This one is like 240$. After 2-3 years, if you feel that is letting you down, you can get another one for same price range.
[General Questions and Answers] kjonca:
Hello.

Short question: what would be best replacement of my current "Lenovo Vibe K5" (I am quite happy with it, but touch screen slowly stops working)?

What I need:

1. call recording ("natively" or possibility to run ACR) great if automatic

2. no bloat (FB, instagram etc) or possibility to remove it

3. enough space to keep files (I think this i no problem, as lenovo has enough)

4. No troubles with root/bootloader unlocking/recovery replace (I have heard that some vendors ask to wait two week before give you unlock code)

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Hello.

Short question: what would be best replacement of my current "Lenovo Vibe K5" (I am quite happy with it, but touch screen slowly stops working)?

What I need:

1. call recording ("natively" or possibility to run ACR) great if automatic

2. no bloat (FB, instagram etc) or possibility to remove it

3. enough space to keep files (I think this i no problem, as lenovo has enough)

4. No troubles with root/bootloader unlocking/recovery replace (I have heard that some vendors ask to wait two week before give you unlock code)

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[General Questions and Answers] CamoGeko:
Wait, you don't mind that?

Having bloatware and ads in foreign language being intrusively pre-installed on your phone? I thought companies stopped doing this... ?

I think that's pretty appalling to do by the manufacturer. Something tells me that Xiaomi will also be banned from installing Google Apps soon, just like Huawei was. So it's best to avoid buying anything Chinese for the nearest future.

Save money and buy an older Pixel XL or something. I promise you'll thank me later.

Sent from my mata using Thebear Blue XDA Labs
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Well, I find somewhat intrusive ads a better alternative to inflated high prices for smartphones from other companies. Paying beyond 400€ for a smartphone is outrageous. Xiaomi does deliver very good phones for real value. Given you re most likely to keep using that phone for more than a few months, the company has to inflate those prices or show advertisements.

If such predicament happens in near future, we don't know. It does not matter. Instead of going with a disappointing old flagship today, I suggest you guys get a new mid-range phone from xiaomi. Doubt Xiaomi is gonna be banned in any near future.
[General Questions and Answers] 350Rocket:
Ads would be a no go for me. I'd go pixel or OnePlus.
[General Questions and Answers] dwkindig:
I'm in the market to replace my Samsung Galaxy S9+. While a root method was recently found for it and the S9, it leaves a lot to be desired (and breaks a lot of things). For my next phone, I'm looking for one that's super-friendly in regards to rooting and custom recovery (e.g. TWRP) and ROMs. I'm stuck with T-Mobile (US) for now, though, and the selection in-store seems slim, at least as far as phones meeting that criteria -- my best options there seem to be the OnePlus 7T, OnePlus 7T Pro Maclaren, or the Pixel 4XL, but none of those are exactly what I'm looking for: The OnePlus models, while I can get them in 256gb flavors despite the lack of expandable storage, but it looks like TWRP support remains unofficial for now? The Pixel 4XL seems like it'd be super friendly, but it has no expandable storage and the maximum available is 128gb, and I actively use the phone for a huge variety of personal, work, and media tasks, and 128gb won't cut it (and I don't want an OTG drive sticking out of the USB port, unless someone can recommend a super slim one > 256gb with power passthrough).

While I would like an obscene powerhouse of a device (say, an Asus ROG 2 with all the fixin's), practicality is the real motivator here. I don't mind if the phone is a gen or two back -- something from the same timeframe as the Galaxy S8/Note 8 up to now would be good. Or this upcoming generation, if you know something I don't. Definitely need >= 256gb storage, ideally with an sd card expansion. Dual SIMs would be nice, but not necessary. Ability to pay on installment (carrier, manufacturer, reseller, depressing mall kiosk, whatever) would also be nice, but is also not necessary. Most of all, I want to be able to install TWRP, systemless Magisk (with successful SafetyNet bypasses), and a variety of mods and ROMs (which itself requires an active community).

Anyone have any recommendations? Any questions or things I need to further clarify? Any online tools that can help me pick by selectecting and prioriizing requirements.
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Well, you could go with the S20 Ultra. 512 gb internal storage, coupled with a 512 gb micro SD would be interesting. Please do try such combo. The lack of twrp or custom roms for now is negligent. At 2.7 Ghz and 12 Gigs of Ram, you could have hundred of bloatware apps without a worry.
[General Questions and Answers] the_cr0w:
hiii

recently i had some connector-related problems with my s7edge so i'm about to buy my next phone.

i think that, in this "hardware overkill era" (personally i think that from circa 2018 the effective changes in speed became very small and unnoticeable in terms of usage; apps open just a tiny little faster ), choosing a good used it's better than ever. since i don't have much to spend (gotta apply for masters ya know) i was thinking about getting a s9plus or a OP6t. that is because i like a lot the design of both the phones and the different functions (from water resistance, qi charge, better photos and nice notch/slide-less design by s9p to the in-display fingerprint sensor and veeeery nice software of the op6t ). I really wish there was something around 250/300€ with the functions of both but couldn't find it, and since i can actually buy a still premium phone like those for just 250, probably i'll just stick with one of them. which one?

i’d really like to get a stock aosp/pixel experience with the samsung but can't find a good rom, should i choose the op6t? HALP
[General Questions and Answers] toby2111:
Redmi Note 8 Pro or Realme 5 Pro. Going to buy one of these very shortly.

1. Which one would you buy and why?

2. Which one offers best support /updates?

3.Which one would offer best second hand resale value in 12 to 18 months time? Thanks in advance!

Edit - RNP8 is 6/64gb while Realme is 8/128gb. I'm in Ireland but will probably buy from amazon Spain or Germany as its cheaper.
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Got the Note 8 pro. Very good device, I think I am gonna keep it for somewhat 2 years. Solid performance, battery holds 2 days of charge, saw some light users reaching 4 days. Android 10 almost out of the box, good updates. Since both are good phones, go for the cheaper one. No reason to spend more money on a somewhat better specced phone. In terms of gaming performance, hadn't tried a lot. Fortnite and Asphalt run good. Both phones are running Android, not IOS, so the resale value is gonna be lower than what you paid for it. Given how fast android phones depreciate, I would say that if you can get 65% money back from the resell, you are lucky.

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You could go with those old phones, or you could go with Xiaomi. Seems the K20 Pro is quite good and in that price range.
[General Questions and Answers] 350Rocket:
I feel the same as you, I like OnePlus software the best (I have the OnePlus 5) but i like the s9 plus for the headphone jack (#1 priority for me) and the water resistance (I killed my first op5 after 2 years when I jumped in the ocean with it in my pocket), and wireless charging would handy for when the charging port eventually fails in the long run. The display also looks slightly better to me on the Samsung compared to the OnePlus, but other than that I'd prefer the OnePlus. If my phone died tomorrow I'd get a OnePlus 6 (last OnePlus with a headphone jack).

Btw my second OnePlus 5 I bought used off eBay has 90% battery still after 3 years. No issues with it and it looked almost like new. No burn in on the screen. The s8 I bought used locally had some minor burn in on the screen otherwise was fine. Battery health was good but it didn't last or charge near as fast as the OnePlus. I also tried a used pixel XL after the s8 (didn't like the Samsung UI that much and decided to try the pixel XL - I liked it but went back to the OnePlus for dual Sims for a work number so I didn't have to carry 2 phones). My point is I have bought several used phones and had pretty good luck with them.
[General Questions and Answers] CamoGeko:
1. The Realme 5 would go for, Note 8 Pro has a Mediatek SoC and you should stay away from those at all costs.

2. If you get the Note 8T I would say the Xiaomi will have better support, but it really depends where you are in the world.

3. None, Chinese phones generally don't have very good resale value or interest 12 months after you buy it. Why? Because at least 5 new Chinese phones come out every couple of months, do you really think people are going to bother buying second hand ones when they can get a brand new one just as cheap?
[General Questions and Answers] toby2111:
Hi, I think I'm going to go for the Mi 9 Lite. The RN8P just seems too big and bulky for me. Plus 9 lite has snapdragon chip which seems better.

I'm in Ireland and just sold my Mi A2 Lite on a second hand site for about 50% of what I paid for it exactly a year ago which is a pretty good deal to me.
[General Questions and Answers] dlads:
Apparently the Xiaomi mi 10 pro is going to be a beast.

Was told about it, haven't looked it up.

Comparable to the OnePlus 8 pro I'm told.

I'm looking for a phone I can get on EE in the UK, if not the OnePlus 8 pro then I may switch.

Wouldn't go Huawei or apple, but the mi10 pro sounds good.
[General Questions and Answers] phaleg:
Take the OnePlus6T bro, no comparison in term of future support and develop

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I may suggest you to read about 5G impact, because I am not sure for the OP8, but for mi10pro it should be 5G
[General Questions and Answers] dlads:
They're both 5G, doesn't bother me. I won't be buying a 5G sim on purpose, only if the deals right.
[General Questions and Answers] Fachtal:
So, after about five-ish years I finally need to replace my old phone.

Looking for a rather simple phone.

Good battery life

good bluetooth

very clean ROM with fast updates or comfortable to load a clean custom ROM

rootable

not too expensive as I can't get it on my contract, I'd say 400-500$ is the limit

I'd prefer at least 64gb of space

Should be available in Switzerland

don't care about 5G (truth be told, not even caring about 4G)

don't care about the camera
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Hope there's help for me.
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Try the Xiaomi Note 8 Pro. The European version doesn't have ads, works smooth. Some light usage users reported even 4 days on single charge. Mine holds around 2 days, 4G activate continuously. The phone has twrp and root available already, awaiting a custom rom. Running Android 10, for sure it will get Android 11 as well.
[General Questions and Answers] Fachtal:
looks interesting. According to the internet, it only runs Android 9, I assume Android 10 is available via update?

Always discarded xiaomi because it just smelled like cheap chinese garbage with integrated spyware, guess I was wrong...
[General Questions and Answers] CamoGeko:
Note 8 Pro runs a Mediatek SoC, which means ROMs will be limited.

I've said this here more than once. Stay away from the Xiaomi Note 8 Pro if you're interested in Custom ROMs and dev support etc..

Also there's no getting away from it, it is just another FHD plastic glass slab from China for the most part. I'd say a Mi A2 (Mi9 Lite) is a better choice.

[MENTION=6906012]Fachtal[/MENTION]

Take a look at the 8T instead with SnapDragon.

Xiaomi will have Chinese bloat if you buy the Chinese versions, but they're by far the preferred manufacturer if you wan't to avoid China bloatware and them stealing your data.
[General Questions and Answers] phaleg:
For me, 4G is more than enough, also for free, I would not change to 5G because of more radiation without any improvement in my use XD
[General Questions and Answers] Fachtal:
Apparently, the 8T comes without a jack port, which is an automatic no-deal for me.

I've also seen the 9T which has a jack port along with some more of everything while still being affordable.

On the topic of the 9T, how big is the difference between the 9T and the 9T Pro?

Seeing as I'll most likely have to stick with it for the next four years, I'd be willing to spend those additional ~90$ if it is worth it.
[General Questions and Answers] CamoGeko:
Wha are you talking about? The both have 3.5mm ports.

Please look here:

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9946&idPhone2=9812

You can literally make your mind up just by looking at that page which is better. Honestly I would just miss both of them, because the 8T does have better dev support and a SnapDragon its a pretty slow SnapDragon (not even a 700 series). The 8 Pro has the MediaTek SoC and GPU, but UFS storage. Also they both have the Chinese IPS displays, no Amoled in sight.
[General Questions and Answers] MOTzYouTube:
I am looking for a 5G phone but it's so hard to find an affordable one.
[General Questions and Answers] hulkyboi:
Hey guys, is it okay to buy refurbished phones? What are the cons
[General Questions and Answers] Fachtal:
I'm not familiar with current hardware, so I can't make too much of that.

The Xiaomi Mi 9T (Pro) I checked out had Snapdragon 800s and AMOLED displays listed. I guess those are much better than the Snapdragon 665 and the IPS display in the 8T?

Sorry for those basic questions, last time I knew about mobile hardware ARMv7 was just about to become a thing.
[General Questions and Answers] jesperhla:
Hello Guyz, please enlighten me in the diection of my new phone!

I usually buy midrange range phone and for that i have a budget of 200-300 USD +/-...... My previous phones , to give you an idea, are the Asus Zenfone 2, then the Redmi 3x, and latest was the mi A1.

I change phones every 2 years and now time has come to change the A1...

I live in Europe, but dont want brands as samsung og apple, and i've very much liked my experiences with Xiaomi.

What is important for me:

- Fluid functionality for daily day use

- Camera should at least be Decent!

- Good connectivity

- Good battery life

- Decent screen

- Clean OS

What is NOT important:

- I dont need much space.

- I do NOT game or multitask, its just for making calls and normal web/mail searches.

- Dont have the need of customs roms, blips and blops...

I was gonna get the xiaomi Mi A3, as i very much liked the clean android system, but i've heard that the screen has a very low Res, and looks pixelated...Then i thought i wait for the release of a mi A4...Its been rumoured, but no idea when its gonna happen :(

Other thoughts was the Note 8 pro, But i would rather have a Snapdragon...

So i guess i'm left with the Mi 9T? or maybe the Realme X2? i was looking at the Mi Max3, but its seems to have been around since 2018?

Any of these you would chose, or maybe have another suggestion?

Thank you in advance guyz, i'm having trouble making my mind....God i'm turning into my wife :(
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
I am using a Xiaomi Note 8 pro. Good battery life, you can even get 4 days on a single charge. Very good performance, the phone runs the very last Android 10, update dating 1st of January. The European version contains less to none ads. Like if you follow a 5 min tutorial on YouTube, you are getting rid of every ad available. Custom ROM problem aside, the mediatek runs OK, hadn't had any problem with resource hungry apps, like games or Adobe. The phone feels good in hand, corning gorilla glass, the camera is good. Let's say 8.5/10. The video recording is amazing. I do recommend.
[General Questions and Answers] jesperhla:
Thanks m8, I would probably have gone for it, if it wasn't a mediatek Chip :(

I would really prefer a snapdragon :)

The way it looks right now, i'm leaning more to the Mi 9T, but it seems the Mi A4 will be out in the middle of next month, and it looks really interesting, so i might just wait for it. :)
[General Questions and Answers] SlowRain:
Hi. My HTC 10 is in for repairs, & the shop seems to be putting up roadblocks to fixing it. I think I'm going to need a new phone. The HTC 10 was good, but it didn't last as long as I'd hoped (3.5 years). My perfect phone was my HTC Incredible S, which gave me 5 years of use, & it was easy to use one-handed.

So, what phone would you recommend given the following parameters:

- small enough to use one-handed (very important)

- long-lasting (very important)

- decent camera (doesn't have to be the best)

- fixable

- readily available worldwide (ie. not country specific)

- from a reputable manufacturer with no known security issues (I live in Taiwan, so no Chinese brands)

- as close to stock as possible (within reason)

Price is not a huge factor. Also, I have a spare phone to use in the meantime, so I can also wait for the new phones which will be announced this spring. Is there anything in the pipeline which would meet my needs?

Thanks for your help.
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
No idea about your palm size. I have a Xiaomi Note 8 pro, about 7 inches screen and I use it one handed with ease. I would suggest instead of buying a expensive flagship that will satisfy you for 5 years to just go with mid-range ones for 3 years and renew. Cheaper on the wallet and you get very decent performance and battery. Now there are a few suggestions :

Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro

Samsung S20 Ultra

Redmi K20 Pro

OnePlus 7T Pro

OnePlus 8 Pro (releases around 14. April 2020)
[General Questions and Answers] SlowRain:
Thanks for your reply.

I'm looking for a small phone, so 7" is too big. My HTC 10 is almost at the upper limit, and it's 5.2" with noticeable bezels. If the bezels are reduced, it's possible a 5.5" may work; maybe even a 5.7" if there are absolutely no bezels. Also, no Chinese brands for security reasons.

Also, I want a long-lasting phone. Price isn't an issue for me. I don't find it very sustainable to get a new phone every 2-3 years. I'd like at least 4 years, but 5+ would be better. So reliability, longevity, and fixability are important to me.
[General Questions and Answers] 350Rocket:
It's hard to predict reliability of each model, since they all can have different problems that tend to pop up as they get older, but a good bet is to pick something that has a fairly easy to replace battery and charging port (most likely to fail within 5 years). You can check ifixit for repairability ratings. I'm sure I can get 5 years out of my OnePlus 5 (working great at 3 years and I'll replace the battery and charging port if required to keep it another couple years). That doesn't help you because it is Chinese.

Maybe check out the latest Samsung, LG and Sony top of the line phones and compare repairability?
[General Questions and Answers] firrae:
Hello,

I have been wavering on what phone to buy as my next development device. I'm torn between saving money with a OnePlus 6T, staying stock Google with a Pixel 4, or going all out with the latest tech in a S20. This is meant for development only and I'd like to get another device that'll be good for development over the next few years (my OnePlus 4 did well until last week when it died).

Any thoughts are appreciated to help me see something I'm leaving out.
[General Questions and Answers] CamoGeko:
Purely for development, or even just for daily driver purposes I'd recommend the Pixel 4XL over any of those.

You will be happy with it for at least 2-3 if needed. Good luck! :good:

PS. There was no OnePlus 4. ;)
[General Questions and Answers] firrae:
You're right it was a 3T. I'm just mainly split on if having the newer processor in the S20 is worth the extra cost. I don't really trust Samsung to keep it updated though.
[General Questions and Answers] DJesri13:
Hello, any recommendations for an older phone that I can use for media? I just switched to my LG g8 but I can't root it and I don't want to root it as it is my primary phone. I just sold my sony xz premium, it was worth too much to keep for a media-only phone. I'm looking for an older (or cheaper) phone that I can easily root. I am addicted to the V4A sound mod. I was looking for one with running android 5.0+ and has 64+ gb of rom (or expandable memory) so I can download all my Spotify music to it and use it offline since it won't be used for much else. Recommendations I have seen so far the moto x4, moto g6, and Xiaomi redmi note 5/ pro. Any other maybe cheaper recommendations? I know I sound like a choosing begger, in sorry.
[General Questions and Answers] mrrocketdog:
htc m8. easily rooted. v4A or A.R.I.S.E. sounds awesome. what i had during ARISE testing days.:good:
[General Questions and Answers] DiamondJohn:
I use a Samsung Galaxy S4 gt-i9506 as my daily and also as 2 other dev phones., I think they do all your requirements, and are cheap second hand on eBay.
[General Questions and Answers] Typhoon_Master:
Hi,

The Screen of my Xiaomi Redmi 3S died today, so I am looking for a new phone currently.

It should be in the same dimensions-category like the Redmi 3S (139.3 x 69.6 x 8.5 mm | 5.48 x 2.74 x 0.33 in) but with better camera.

The Xiaomi Mi A3 caught my eye, but its glass-backpanel keeps me back, because it would shatter if i drop it once. So it would be maybe better to go with the older Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite?

I am open to any recommendations also other brands.

(Though headphonejack is a must-have)