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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
Oh, JJ is definitely one of the fastest ROMs there. In fact JJ, Stock, and FXP are almost on par (what's 1 or 2 points?) In fact the only thing that let JJ down was the amount of free RAM. Other than that, in the benchmarks, it was indeed consistently the fastest ROM.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
Thanks :)

Spent almost a week without a life getting this chart ready - wiping, rewiping, installing, uninstalling, measuring etc etc
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] tintin100:
Did you uninstalled the bloatware from stock ROM using any automatic bloatware removal tool or uninstalled the applications manually?

According to my experience : after I removed bloatware one by one using 'root uninstaller' the free internal memory became 332 MB. (I removed facebook inside xperia, google maps, talkback etc also)

and before i started installing the applications and mods the the free RAM was around 200 - 195 MB.

I can play most of the games (which are playable on Ray) very smoothly.

The last game I played was NFS hot persuit. The graphics ran super smooth, but the sound sometimes become choppy though.

I actually don't see a very big reason to jump from stock ROM 4.1.B.0.587 (minus bloatware, plus some of the very very useful mods and tweaks available in this forum) to a custom ROM.

Some people may have different views. I respect their views, but for me, I am happy with 4.1.B.0.587
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Rizal Lovins:
Really nice thread :D

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] hassan_eldhraawy:
JJ's is the best .. at least for me :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] cotangent05:
i've been flashing different rom, but i been missing the GB experience.. GxG's Jellybread is quite amazing for it's ICS-GB-JB experience.. but it's actually GB. i haven't tried the new stock 587 though, because of your chart i can see the performance increase with the new stock.. i will give it a try :D thanks mate..

can i ask for the list of playable games the run in your stock 587? i would be thankful for that :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
I used just the automatic bloatware removing tool that knight has posted on the forum. I have mentioned in the comments in the chart there is still so much scope to remove bloatware, so obviously a lot more space and memory could be freed up.

I think Sony has done quite a good job with their ROM - not considering the bloatware.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Bad_Biogene:
Do you really prefer the CM9 camera instead of SE stock camera?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] desaturated:
can you test Jellysandwich Mr. Tapa ROM
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] vleutmans:
I tried many GB and ICS ROMS, so can only tell about those OS.

I now use repack4pda 7 GB now, and it's smooth, snappy and lean. Also videocamera recording works without any stutters.

I tried stock and custom ICS, but with all the videocamera recording is choppy, not smooth, I even upgraded the camera to use alternative video encoding (http://www.mediafire.com/?tbeg1yh1uk0laa3 ) , and it improved a bit bit not as smooth as on GB. I just want a fully working video camera on this thing.

So as far as I know on "any" ICS we still face video recording issues.... For me this means having to stick on GB.

Br.

Michel
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
Yes, in terms of performance. I don't like the persistent bar on the right with the shutter button - it takes up a lot of space. But if you learn how to use the camera, it is very powerful. I usually focus once and then shoot off multiple shots without a refocus. Stock SE camera is actually quite decent (never liked it at first, but you get used to it). However I'm sold on CM9 camera.

Sure, I'll do that this weekend and will try to post the results by Sunday.

I've been taking my pics and videos on ICS only. I notice a stutter at times while taking a video, but when I play it back on the TV I can't make out anything. Maybe I don't have a great eye for videos (I am amateur photographer, but not a videographer), but it works well enough for me and the family. Some ROMs were incredibly slow with video recording, but I've not had a problem with CM9. I usually take videos of my toddler, and the camera is able to cope up with her, so that is good enough for me.

On the other hand, my wife's iPhone 4S is a different beast altogether. I can never be satisfied with any Android video cam after playing with that, so maybe my perspective is skewed anyway.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] MrTapa:
Yeah 1+
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gxg:
It is said that Iphone 4S and Ray have the same camera module with Exmor R chipset.

I can't undestand whay in RAY it doesn't have the chip for autoflash.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] xparanoidx:
I hope you guys test JellySandwich :) is a great rom too
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
Nono... they are vastly different - at least in terms of actual usage.

Ray is wayyy better in low light. Although iPhone has a F/2.4 sensor, it takes very dark photos in low light. On the other hand, the Ray gains up and takes (documentation) photos in low light. By this I mean that you cannot use the Ray's photos for printing, but you can use it to make out what happened - which is better than getting a dark shot.

On the other hand, this gain up of Ray is great when you want to take videos where it makes a lot more sense than photos.

In terms of speed, iPhone rocks. The camera module itself is a little slow, but it takes photos exactly at the moment you want to. Shutter lag is minimum. And it has better macro capability than any Android camera I have used. That said, I still cant bring myself to using an iPhone for day to day use - I love Android. :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
Ok, I'm planning to test some GB based ROMs for comparison sake. Anyone knows any good ones out there that I can thrown in to my comparison?

Want to do all the GB comparisons together as I don't want to rebase again and again...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] DrMuhammadElHanafy:
Stock forever.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] 3miki3:
Please test paranoid android from DHK (JB rom, fully working)... (but you must do a lot of fixes after flash rom ) but after that i think that is faster rom, more faster then all ics and GB roms!!!!

But i think you should test it.

JB si very smooth!!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
Right-o, will try giving it a spin. :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] absbrain:
Cm7.2, jellybread, repack4 pda, rayonium, jj lite
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Ray4:
Could someone with locked bootlader do the same tests, so we could see what the best rom for locked bootlader is. the roms i know of that support locked bootlader is: Pureness, JJ doctor and jellysandwich. im sorry for not posting this my self, but i'm fairly new to ray and it would take a lot of time for me, since i need to use another pc for rooting and flashing (drivers are messed up on my pc).
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
Added 2 new ROMs to the firing squad - Jelly Sandwich 5 and GxG Jellybread: the latter being a gingerbread ROM which everyone keeps saying is faster than the ICS ROMs.

Check the first post for details and updates.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] thomas1991_12:
If you feel like it you can test my rom and kernel too (flylight and flykernel) curious how it compares
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gxg:
I was able to film my wife during a long fun in the carnival on the sea side. With carrousels and stuff. During night, with the light that park offered. I was amazed.

But for pictures.. it's another story. I was visiting a friend with i4S and I proposed to him to take some shots and compare the pictures. On the screen..it was ok. But on the laptop...Our beloved ray gave me: shame! Arte facts all over. Noise...

The test was on the same subjects, from a stand, with the same amount of light.

Now I've modded the camera with electrical tape. I can't wait to visit him (he's on vacation now) and to redo the test. And I have seen better shots from HTC Desire and Samsung Ace (impressive on this device).

This issue: camera, it's the biggest drawback on Ray.

P.S. Thank you for considering my rom to be included in tests! ;)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
Spot on... the camera on the Ray is quite sad. What you see on the phone screen is only software gimmicks. On the big screen it is terrible.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
Because I got low scores on Jellysandwich and GxG, I decided to redo the benchmarks on the initial ROMs: so I took JJ 3.3b for a comparison. I got similar benchmark scores as before on JJ ROM. So there was no glitch on the phone that caused a low score on the last two.

The devs put in so much effort into creating their ROMs, it sometimes feels bad to show that they are not performing very well, but hey someone's got to do an objective comparison. :(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gxg:
I'm not a gamer. I'm not a heavy user... and I felt GxG jellybread to be to my taste. One or two software benchmark cannot tell me what is better, if in reality is lagging.

I don't mind...the low scores ;)

I'm only telling that many buyers who purchased smartphones only based on design and benchmarks sold them after few weeks!

I've been there... when I followed the mainstream and bought the latest s*it ending with money loss, after selling the toy. I was young! Now I'm researching, asking, touching, testing..

And, even the test shows poor scores, for at least a 20 people seems faster.. that's ok for me!:D :omeans that I'm not crazy:fingers-crossed:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] xmaster230:
FXP138 CM 9.1 is released

Hi

First of all thank you very much for the post, very usefull.

Few days back FXP138 CM9.1 was released, I flashed the rom, It works pretty well.:good: Will it be possible for you to update this ROM's comparison :confused: it would be really great if you could do this comparison so that it will be helpful for folks who are planning to flash :cool:FXP138.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
I concur. The benchmark scores are only an indication and not a statement for what one should buy.

In my case, I don't play any games on my Ray (I have a Fire for that) but I want the device to be responsive. My main preferences are a fast and responsive camera, and lots of internal memory since I install lot of apps.

If internal memory is low, then it means the ROM already has a lot of apps and a normal user might not need anything more, so needn't worry about it.

Yup, I had CM 9.1 FXP 137 for a while and I ran some quick benchmarks. There was no noticeable improvement, and its unlikey that FXP 138 would have any significant improvement. I will definitely redo a benchmark after 2-3 months when FXP 145 releases. In the meantime if one of you notices something change significantly with FXP/CM please let me know and I will redo the bench.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
Updated the benchmarks with 3 more ROMs. Some new drivers are out which are causing a huge gain in performance. Let's hope all the ROMs catch up on this.

Oh, and JellySandwich has joined the party!!! :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] arcatarc:
Tnx bro,keep the great work!:thumbup:

Inviato da me!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
Thanks, and very good ROM bro. Graphics performance in Antutu just blew me off.... too bad it was not consistent across all the benchmarks, but I like the ROM a lot. Might try it again with some mods and tweaks to see if I want to keep it as my daily ROM. :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Parkside:
I’ve tried a few of the ROMS here, my subjective observations…

Ice Cream Pureness build 11 is worse than build 10 IMO. Also I believe it’s based of Sony’s previous build so doesn’t benefit from .587’s rather impressive optimisations yet.

JJ’s hybrid is the standard by which other custom roms should be measured. Feature rich and a good performer – again this is based on old firmware, so a new version of this could possibly be the top performing rom.

Xperia stock – this is a great build from Sony, vanilla users should have no complaints.

FXP CM9 – I really enjoyed this no complaints at all – so much free memory for such a well featured build is pretty impressive.

Flylight – what I’m using right now. I have no complaints, just the right amount of stripping back to make it light but still useable, add your own customisations for eye candy. Performance is right up there.

Jelly sandwich 5.1 – seemed good but I didn’t stay on it long because I couldn’t resist Flylight which came out a day or two later. The aroma installation is a triumph allowing full customisation before you even use your phone. The fact the base rom can handle such a wide variety of configurations is impressive.

Superleggera v3 – only tried it for 15 minutes, as I didn’t have the time to restore all my apps and settings. A very zen experience – imagine the sound of one hand clapping. This REALLY is a stripped rom as attested by the massive amount of free internal memory. You look at the downloaded apps setting and it’s empty…slightly scary, I would like to play with it more.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] arcatarc:
Infact,with my superstripped version you have a superbase to start adding tweak and mods you like;)

Inviato da me!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] talha20:
Adding mods seems too much sometimes so many different mods with so many different explanations (sometimes from the same guy), how does a person choose what to flash/install especially if that person does not know much about this stuff (a newbie like me)?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gxg:
Man!

Removing a lot of bloatware, make some room in the system part. If you have the rom in ZIP format, you can and in System/app all the software that you usualy install. I don't remember how manny MB it's allowed in the system part, but it's more than enought. And you can remain with DATA free ... ~ 300ish Mb of data to install.

It's a trick... and given fact that XDA don't allow to have roms with warrez or with our purchased software, can hide that trick and give you the impression that the rom doesn't have enought free mem.

For my daily i have in system all my apps MUST HAVE +3-4 games (to be there just in case) .. and usualy I have all DATA free.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] arcatarc:
The greatest bike champion of all the time(Giacomo Agostini)used to say: quello che non c'é non si può rompere!(wat there isn't can't be breaked!)

Inviato da me!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] dreezz:
thx for this topic!

will you also test FeraLab?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1834148

and this one: [JB 4.1.1][Pa+Aokp+Cm] P.A.C All in 1 ROM !!!!!!!!!! Jellybean alpha10 18/9

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1803076
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] priyanmuthu:
Thanks !!!

Thnx a lot for the Test.. :good: Really Helped me out.. Presently using MIUI and planning to change to CM9.. :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Ray4:
can you please test the new Jelly Sandwich 6.2?

could you also test some GB roms too please.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] geekoo:
Hi Guys, sorry I've been away from this forum for a long time now. I've been away from XDA too as I never had the time.

In the meantime, I gave away from Ray and switched to a Note 2. Decided that I prefer more screen real estate, and the hw on the Sony got too outdated, too quickly.

Good to see the activity in the Ray forums however. The device is getting the love it deserves :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Hunt3r.j2:
Virtuous has managed to get true themes working for Sense 4!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImNvbS52aXJ0dW91cy5za2luLnNsYXRlaGQiXQ..

I'm sure this is just one of many more themes that are now soon to come....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] superchilpil:
They haven't released the tools yet
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Hunt3r.j2:
In time...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skizzy034:
I thought they already released the tool? Virtuous Ten Studio or something like that.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] superchilpil:
I have VTS but the m10 image decompiler hasn't been released yet, they will hopefully update it soon
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sobaked2921:
So it started yesterday but for some reason my sms arnt coming in. I can send em just not get em. The only way they come in is if I make a call. I've trided every resting option I can find but no success. Before I call sprint an deal with their dumbass I thought I ask here. Any help greatly appreciated
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mbaseball3:
Network upgrading. Don't have link on me but its been mentioned.

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
About all you can do is try a prl and profile update
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sobaked2921:
Damn I do live in dallas an it is one of the first LTE city's so that makes sense. Tried the prl an profile no luck guess I just wait what a drag
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
An Airave fixed the issue for me, while at home at least. I went through it for months earlier this year. What a pain. Just call your voicemail every once in a while.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] renzon69:
Same here can't send or receive sms,I'm ready to go to a sprint store for a replacement
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] arozer:
Please post the link of what you're talking about. My brother has been complaining about this as well.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] michael.stollaire:
Search the Sprint website, regarding their tower upgrades, or just Google 'sprint tower upgrade.'

Sent from my r00ted, unlocked, 100% tricked-out LTEVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sobaked2921:
This sucks Idk how many txts an calls I've missed for tha past couple days because of this. Sprint needs to get they **** together
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
Are you planning on receiving a replacement network?

Because that's the only way to fix your problem. Everyone's gone through this, it's your turn now. These symptoms are very specific and you obviously have the same issue we all have had with the tower upgrades. Wait it out, get used to calling your voicemail, complain and get a free Airave, and that'll help a lot.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] renzon69:
In my case,this is only on my line,my wife's epic touch is doing just fine,is it specific to the EVO LTE ?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sobaked2921:
Same for me. I'm on a plan with my brother an he has a epic touch. He's not getting any problems like me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] renzon69:
So what he's saying is that our local towers are being worked on? That means that if I go to another city or town I will start receiving texts,well tomorrow I be out of town so,I will test this out and see
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] motcher41:
Did you happen to set up google voice app?

---------- Post added at 12:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:25 AM ----------

I ran into this and they tried to play network outage even though it turned out somehow my google voice took my sms.

In browser go to google voice and sign in. In settings>general make sure your sms forwarding isn't checked to forward them to your gmail account. Then go to settings>phone and make sure your phone is checkmarked and not google talk. I had the forwarding checked somehow and then unchecked it and started to get sms again...after 4 days of "known network outages" with an eta to completionof a week later. Damn liars
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] renzon69:
Well that didn't work for me,but yeah they will tell you anything just to get you to stop calling lol,I will call again today and see
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] motcher41:
Shoot. Hoped it would. I wish you luck man. I knew mine was bogus about the network when a coworker had not had an issue all week
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sobaked2921:
Didn't work for me either thanks for tha tip tho
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] renzon69:
Ok,I called again,another hour on the phone with tech support,nothing again,they put out a ticket for my area and wthey will see about sending a replacement phone in 72 hrs,what a joke sprint is blah...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] motcher41:
I got transferred 17 time in 46 minutes last week
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] renzon69:
lol holy crap that's a lot of people,I think they all the same person but they change their voices,since they all do the same thing,anyhow,I think total I 've been on the phone with this issue about 4 hrs,my last resort is driving about hour and a half to the closest sprint store and let them see what's going on,I hate this
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sobaked2921:
So I went up to sprint yesterday an they did a whole lot of nothing. Lady said network errors an said to switch to cdma only but that didn't do ****. Sprint should freakin give you a damn free month bill for all this damn inconvenience
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] oespinoza83:
Having the same problem here. I can't send any texts, and I am not 100% sure they are incoming?

Live in Houston. Problem started this morning. Was working fine yesterday evening.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] renzon69:
So did they give you a replacement or not?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sobaked2921:
Nope just did the basic update profile an prl an sent me on my way.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] renzon69:
So they sent you home without a working phone...that's bs,I'm regretting switching from vzw just to save $30 a month
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sobaked2921:
Ya it is. Have u flashed another rom to see if that might work? Mines still stock so I havnt played with it yet to see if that works
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] renzon69:
I did actually,I was stock a few days ago with no sms and now I'm on mean Rom and still nothing,sprint stills gives me the run around,when they know people are having issues with this
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] renzon69:
Still no SMS,its going on a week and a half without text,damn sprint...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tyler.durden:
This started happening to me a couple days ago, as well. It's mainly after waking up around 1PM(work nights) and I try to send someone a text but it will fail. I restart the phone a few times, make a phone call, and finally I start getting like 10 texts at once... Plus, the 'failed' text that I tried sending ends up sending it to that person like 6 or 7 times. This is very irritating... but it seems to work fine the rest of the day after that.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 00mred00:
If you guys want you can pm me your number and I can check into it.

Specify the issues, addresses it occurs at etc.

If you use or have ever used google voice it can definitely cause text issues

Could be network related

Could be provisioning ...check settings, about, phone info and see if everything is filled out.

Update...I have had 3 different model phones I ha e had to call in over texting issues.

1. Google voice issue (code has to be removed from your account)

The other 2 were calls in to tech support to have the voicemail server reset.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] robotopher:
Airave

I had similar problems after flashing a new rom. After calling sprint, the problem turned out to the airave unit I was using. As unlikely as I thought that to be when the rep told me to unplug it, it fixed the issues once it restarted. Not sure if this would apply to you, but might be worth trying.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] renzon69:
well it looks like sprint is sending a replacement device,after five hours on the phone with them and two weeks of issues,man they give you the run around...