yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S Android Development] waterface:
Brilliant.

It used to auto-download it after setting up the phone. Did you have to do the same?
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Haven't got any time to test 4.2 version yet.

I disabled automatic phone backup too because I like to keep control of what gets restored when I switch roms, I don't know if you're talking about that though.
[Nexus S Android Development] waterface:
That happened with 4.1.2 actually, and yes, I am talking about that. I have that enabled, really saves time when switching ROM. About being in control- If you don't want to reinstall this or that app, it's really easy to open the Play Store and cancel it when the phone starts the reinstallation process. I think all in all it's a huge time saver.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Agreed on the time saving.

I usually use Titanium Backup to selectively manage my apps, but to each their own. The advantage of the embeded Google way is that you won't break anything doing it as far as I'm aware, and it's free. TB however gives you more flexibility. :)
[Nexus S Android Development] waterface:
Baha
[Nexus S Android Development] sk8oldschool74:
Try Flashing the 4.2 transformation PACk...

God bless...

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At least we wouldn't have any bug issues if HE did. ;):)

God bless...
[Nexus S Android Development] Javs2010:
Everything is good except not reading any of my music says there's none but can access it through a file explorer not too worried just seeing if I wasn't the only one

Edit: did a media scan with an app problem solved
[Nexus S Android Development] nexususer1:
Thank you for that usefull post:) now my rom looks even better :p
[Nexus S Android Development] treesurf:
What if I don't have a soul? :D
[Nexus S Android Development] apatal:
What app did you use for this?

I think I need this for when I download new music or extract images from zip files and my Music/Gallery app can't find them in the sdcard. I've been solving this by rebooting (Android does a media scan upon startup) but that is becoming cumbersome. Please do share. Thanks!
[Nexus S Android Development] sspikey:
2 more things for the 4.2

1. Any ideas on what to do for a button remaper that would work with this version?

2. I forgot how to properly go about deleting certain programs (apollo FC's on my rom)
[Nexus S Android Development] apatal:
2 methods off the top of my head:

(1) uninstall via Titanium Backup, or

(2) manually removing/deleting the corresponding apk file from /system/app using root explorer or other similar apps, then rebooting.

Hope this helps. :)

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[Nexus S Android Development] towelboy:
I use [root uninstaller] from the play store, it's free and simple
[Nexus S Android Development] Javs2010:
Dev Tools from market
[Nexus S Android Development] apatal:
Found it! Thanks!

Is this the same app that comes stock in CM ROMs?

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[Nexus S Android Development] Javs2010:
Possibly but not completely sure since I don't use cm
[Nexus S Android Development] waterface:
knzo, just out of curiosity- did you ever consider getting the Galaxy Nexus, and if not, why?
[Nexus S Android Development] Muvolt:
Why not buying a better (and slightly cheaper) device instead of buying a Galaxy Nexus?
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
I would've bought a galaxy nexus if it wasn't for voodoo sound and slightly better battery life due to a single core only processor.
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
N4 is better, but I do like SGN very much too. I didn't buy one because I like to skip generations.
[Nexus S Android Development] waterface:
Now it obviously does not make a lot of sense to buy GN. I was wondering why he didn't upgrade before. I owned a GN and I had to sell it shortly after the purchase because I could not stand the crappy quality AMOLED panel, having been refused an exchange from Samsung.
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
When the next build with the fix is coming.. Not demanding anything.. just curios great work with THE METAL DRAGON OVERLORD :D
[Nexus S Android Development] waterface:
A philosophical concept?
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
And overload of meta indeed. :p

*bangs head*

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[Nexus S Android Development] waterface:
Last time I saw dragons I was overloaded high on meth.
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Dragons, Dragons everywhere... :angel:
[Nexus S Android Development] Muvolt:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
I have 3 papers to deliver til next Tuesday, 2 others for the week after and 5 exams waiting for me in 3 and a half weeks. I wouldn't wait standing if I were you.
[Nexus S Android Development] qaz2453:
Had anyone tried flashing this over resbean jelly with no wipe?

If so.. doest it run well?
[Nexus S Android Development] alen1901:
Man just try it yourself. Make backup

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[Nexus S Android Development] qaz2453:
Will do :D
[Nexus S Android Development] :
It works
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Excellent, couldn't have said it better myself.
[Nexus S Android Development] kwibis:
Why would you even want to dirty flash a totally different rom that might possibly contain bugs. How will you know that these bugs are not introduced by your dirty flashing?

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] granets:
ok, I'll be the retard. What is the difference between the two releases? herp derp
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
One is based on 4.1.2 (and more specifically Rasbeanjelly) and the other is based on 4.2 AOSP with bits from here and there.

The polished MDO is 4.1.2. It's stable and good to be your daily rom.

4.2 is fun to try, can't be called a daily rom just yet.
[Nexus S Android Development] granets:
guess I got the second one... oh well, reflashing the vanila thingy. i was on rasbean before, and if its anything like it, i'll love it
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
4.1.2 is rasbean based with CM ioctl fix for smoothness and custom kernel. So it's pretty sweet yeah.
[Nexus S Android Development] granets:
sweeter than stock rasbean? this I gotta' see. you have my thanks for the prompt response dear sir
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
That's for you to judge. :p
[Nexus S Android Development] veritas2000:
Thanks for binging this to the NS dev. I look forward to seeing how all your hard pays of when its ready for daily use. Cheers dude
[Nexus S Android Development] explorer-10:
i know this might not be a ROM problem, but probably the JB OS's issue,,,but is it just me or is the wifi signal sometimes randomly poor even though im right below my wifi's AP? this wasn't much of an issue in ICS
[Nexus S Android Development] RsurNexusS:
this rom is bloody great thanks knzo, but i have 2 questions, why are people saying 4.2 probably isnt good to be a daily?I find no issues so far... and what gapps do i use with the 4.2 one?

Thanks guys!
[Nexus S Android Development] Harbb:
It hasn't been thoroughly tested enough to be classified a "stable" ROM as yet. Major bugs which may not be immediately apparent could cause trouble for those who rely on their phones throughout the day. On the other hand though, I, and I'm sure many others, have been using this ROM for the last couple of days without any issues.

No gapps necessary, most of the main apps are included. Any others you may need can be found in the play store. Note that there are some things which aren't currently available such as the gesture keyboard and photosphere, for this you'll need to flash someone else's 4.2 gapps (only the corresponding apks and libraries are needed). Entirely optional, i've not bothered myself and am very happy with 4.2 so far.

Props to knzo :good:
[Nexus S Android Development] explorer-10:
if i flash the 4.1.2 MDO update, will it overwrite the current kernel that i'm using with the marmite kernel?
[Nexus S Android Development] jerrymouse12:
Yes.
[Nexus S Android Development] DallasCZ:
maybe stupid question, but what kernel is included in MDO 4.1.2. final release?
[Nexus S Android Development] Nemesis2k9:
Is there a method to get on-screen buttons on the nexus s? And would it be compatible with this rom?
[Nexus S Android Development] alen1901:
Hypothalamus.

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[Nexus S Android Development] DallasCZ:
thalamus is still developing kernel for crespo? i tought hes moved to galaxy nexus phone. i loved his kernel with adamg jelly belly rom, so i am happy that his great kernel is in this rom.
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
Hypothalamus is a _thalamus based kernel that knzo developed.

_thalamus is out of this.
[Nexus S Android Development] DallasCZ:
oh, so... still good to know that someone build upon thalamus awesome work. thanx knzo.
[Nexus S Android Development] jojoost:
Waar een wil is, is een weg :D ... Which means something like: if you really want it, it is possible. Although im sorry to say that I dont know how...
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Time to write the first post again.
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
what do you mean? :d update?
[Nexus S Android Development] DallasCZ:
thanx KNZO for the first post update. Exactly what i was looking for.
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Which Marmite kernel should i download? Stock CM All other roms?

Sent a Jellybean from my Jar
[Nexus S Android Development] monsterduc1000:
CM version.

I'm running Marmite v.7 with the last Strawberry build and it is frickin' AMAZING!!!
[Nexus S Android Development] panic_4_what@hotmail.com:
knzo! The best.
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Flashed the CM version and its saying Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped. ?? Please help dev
[Nexus S Android Development] Mario Christian Oquias:
is the 4.2 gapps compatible with this rom? im just assuming that this is a rom with mods and stuff , so i dont know if the 4.2 gapps ive downloaded a few days ago would work with this rom. also need to know the performance. good day XDA!
[Nexus S Android Development] monsterduc1000:
I would suggest getting back into recovery, wipe cache partition, wipe dalvik, reflash the strawberry rom and then reflash the marmite kernel. This usually solves issues for me. Or a clean install on everything if this doesn't work.
[Nexus S Android Development] BenHeng:
I bet he tried it over the 4.2 . It seems that the 4.1 kernels are not compatible with jb4.2
[Nexus S Android Development] madd0g:
It's the same kernel on GN, ergo NS has the same for 4.2.
[Nexus S Android Development] tweeny80:
@knzo

haha I appreciate your humour ... it must be like throwing bread crumbs to a bunch of greedy pigeons and watching the ensuing feeding frenzy - and those not 'getting' some begin squawking something fierce!

@everyone else

I had luck getting some 4.2 Apps installed using this tool:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1965895

But I was left unable to get Corporate account/Exchange Email feature up and running. Not sure what app components I need to scrounge & install .... any ideas fellas?
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Ok ok, here's a recap:

4.1.2 releases halted (still the best crespo ROM).

4.2 issues are being worked on, slowly but are.

4.2 gapps is a ****storm of incompatibilities, don't flash any package for now.

4.1.x kernels will work with 4.2, as a rule of thumb at least.

Yes, the name Metal Dragon Overlord will stay.

No, I don't know yet if I'll buy a N4.

My spare time will increase again by the third week of January.
[Nexus S Android Development] explorer-10:
Just a couple small questions...

What's the difference between 11.10 strawberry update and 11.10 MDO update FINAL?

Also, what sort of GApps are included and taken out of the final update?
[Nexus S Android Development] treesurf:
No difference, minimal GAPPS included. Google apps not included are available from Play Store.
[Nexus S Android Development] explorer-10:
so if i already flashed the 11.10 strawberry update, there's no need to flash the 4.1.2 MDO update?
[Nexus S Android Development] treesurf:
That's right. Only the name has changed. The ROM remains the same.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] alien_x:
Any luck with location bug yet?
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Cant install Marmite kernel on 4.2 ROM its says phone process has been stopped, Tried on full wiped and all. Nothing worked..
[Nexus S Android Development] explorer-10:
in case anyone wants to flash the blue mms.apk to replace the default green one, i found a link to the file in which you can flash in recovery: http://androidtweak.in/downloads/blue_mms_jb.zip
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Okay So i downloaded the Latest Air Kernel (CM) and flashed it, it worked.. SO FAST ROM NOW! :o
[Nexus S Android Development] Gaurav.Stallion:
Is the 4.2 ROM rooted and does it support custom recovery? I ask this because I can't connect my phone to the PC to flash custom recoery again, USB doesn't work :\
[Nexus S Android Development] kwibis:
Rom is not rooted, you need to flash a zip separately. Flashing the ROM does not touch your recovery. Tried the ROM yesterday.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] james300:
how to root this rom>>>?? superuser not working
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Search for Superuser Flashable in XDA and flash it via CMW.
[Nexus S Android Development] grotesque02:
Sorry, the 4.1.2 MOD version have all gapps?

An google now cards work?

Thanks!
[Nexus S Android Development] DallasCZ:
try to read the first post. it usualy helps. :banghead:
[Nexus S Android Development] 4tticuz:
Please add a link to working gApps, because I didnt find a working 4.2 version out there...
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
How about you go back one page and see what I wrote about gapps?

-- edit:

That's it, I'm taking 4.2 link down. I said it many times but apparently it wasn't enough - it's experimental release, only for you to get a taste of 4.2. But since you don't stop asking for stupid crap like issues fixing ETA, where to download gapps or superuser, then I'm taking it down. I'll put it back up when I have a stable release.

If you want to try 4.2 and you came to this thread, go to this one instead: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1992411
[Nexus S Android Development] 4tticuz:
No offense man, and Im thankful for your work.

But why dont you mentioned it in OP?

It would be much easier when members can read such statements in the OP without searching the thread first.

BTW: they is no informaation from you one pahe back...
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Link down anyway, no more 4.2. I'll upload it when it's stable and ready to be a daily ROM. Don't ask for ETAs.
[Nexus S Android Development] madd0g:
Lol, xda as usual. I've never thought about just deleting the account in the whole 2 years more then I did in the last month.

Thanks for the good work on the 4.2, hope you'll get your school stuff done.
[Nexus S Android Development] grotesque02:
If this was the answer relates to my question, I'm sorry but first post don't say anything about.
[Nexus S Android Development] DallasCZ:
is this enough for you.? if its said that gapps are included it usualy means that they are included. there are no mentioning about that something dont work, or is excluded.
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Calm it bro.. Seriously we ( I ) even told them If the gapps inlclude how you can root rom is not rooted etc.. they just dont get it they dont want to ready previous convo..

We can understand you are busy and will do update when you will feel its stable for us.. NO ETA's :) Good luck bro loving the ROM. :)
[Nexus S Android Development] grotesque02:
Ok, but google now card work?

I have another rom with all gapps but google now (card, not voice) don't work.
[Nexus S Android Development] DallasCZ:
google now works as it should work as far as i tested. but i disable it because i dont need it.
[Nexus S Android Development] explorer-10:
not to complain or anything, but more of a small issue...the very first time i had unlocked the bootloader to attempt and flash this rom with matr1x kernel, i had a very great battery life of a tad bit over 5 hrs screen-on use...but just recently, i got a phone call...talked on the phone for 2 hrs(battery was around 70-something% before the call), after the call, it went down to 53-54%...not sure if should've drained that much or not cause my screen was off at the time as well(i had an earpiece plugged in). when i went to check the battery status, the voice calls meter was at 92% usage, both standby cell and screen was at 2 or 3%.
[Nexus S Android Development] DallasCZ:
usualy talk time on 2g is about 14hours and on 3g its about 7hours. So if you were on 3g and you had about 2hours phone call, everything should be allright i guess. but it is more kernel related as rom related.
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
I wrote a huge reply to this but I decided to delete it. Listen, 2 hours of call -> 16% drain seems perfectly normal to me.

Next time you're making a report don't include the relatives apps/processes % (stupid, unlike the 70% -> 54% info) and make sure it's reproducible. Also state more about the ROM/kernel in use, flashing date, and put aside previous battery experiences if the use case is not similar (it's like saying you usually consume x liters of gasoline when you're going at 50 km/h for 1 hour, but today you spent y liters when you had the air conditioning on for 30m - unnecessary and irrelevant information, not to mention it's a biased comparison).

In fact, 4.1.2 has no known issues so if anything happens to you, it's either normal or most likely your fault (including your custom installed apps).
[Nexus S Android Development] smoka206:
People are so stupid, they don't know how to read or follow simple directions. Thank you Knzo for taking a stand against stupidity. And to all of you stupid people if your having problems with you phone please try to submerge it water for 5 minutes first to see if it fixes your problem.
[Nexus S Android Development] klinker:
I'm testing now 3 days the 4.2 version with Trinity T11 alpha12. Except for the lockscreen clock al work like a sharm :)
[Nexus S Android Development] explorer-10:
i was on 2G though and the mobile data was turned off..
[Nexus S Android Development] kwibis:
I switched rom as sometimes I had hickup with 4.2 but if trinity is working, maybe I'll switch back! Thanks

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] tweeny80:
My 4.2 sometimes divides itself, then I'm left with 2 x 2.1 Then one of them freezes, until I add them back together again. Should I subtract instead?
[Nexus S Android Development] grotesque02:
Ops, don't remember...

This rom (4.1.2) need CM kernel (like marmite CM, etc) or "all other rom?
[Nexus S Android Development] Basche:
yea you need CM kernel if you're flashing other kernels
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Woot, 4*? Not everyone loves me :<
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Can't please everyone.

Also 4.2 totally made everyone go crazy and flash happy like it was supposed to be a stable release. Made me want to facepalm so hard.
[Nexus S Android Development] klinker:
For me is stable...don't have issues for now :)

Just waiting new apk tool cause can't compile nothing now :(

On the road with my Nexus S...
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Please consider adding this to your stable version as well.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1999125
[Nexus S Android Development] michalurban:
OT: Is there a way to receive an email when a post is changed? Im tired of checking the first post of this discussion every now and then ... :D
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
You can follow me on twitter.
[Nexus S Android Development] michalurban:
And where can I find your twitter name?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Test kernel out for 4.2 ROMs: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34379117&postcount=5738

Please test and feedback in my thread. Can you make phonecalls to your wife / domestic overlord? etc. Cheers!
[Nexus S Android Development] Nemesis2k9:
Was hoping for a better answer:sly:

Oh well thanks anyway I will continue my search.
[Nexus S Android Development] jojoost:
alen1901 could provide you wit a flashable zip. Better pm him a bit
[Nexus S Android Development] Nemesis2k9:
Really? Thanks for the advice.
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
twitter.com/mnlsrv

Even though I don't have the habit of announcing there a new release I can start doing so.

I'm also more likely to reply any questions from there.
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
I'll ask everyone that from here on out only 4.1.2 is talked about in this thread.

I'm working on 4.2 10m every day, I'll open a new thread when I feel it's ready.
[Nexus S Android Development] michalurban:
Fine. I hope you will post a link here in this thread (first post would be best). ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
We'll see how it goes but don't expect anything soon. At least the storage crash is already fixed (NPE in settings caused by missing stuff in init.herring.rc).

I'll be able to spend some more 30m on this in the weekend.
[Nexus S Android Development] grotesque02:
Is just me or this last version have some issue with bluetooth?

Some times I try turn on but stay in "waiting for start bluetooth"
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Which version? Are you talking about 4.1.2 or 4.2?
[Nexus S Android Development] grotesque02:
Sorry, 4.1.2.

I wait for 4.2 ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] Abdsyafii:
No problem for me using bluetooth for receiving files.
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Click and vote on the theme of an eventual and hypothetical 4.2 AOSP ROM which you will not ask ETAs.
[Nexus S Android Development] macacao:
Voted.

What about a 4.1.2 version with stock theme? Would love to see it.
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
No. And fyi, so far it looks like 4.2 will also be themed.

-- edit: It inverted now :P
[Nexus S Android Development] miklosbard:
Any chance for a midway theme? I would love the black background on the stock theme without all the blueish glow. It would even love our amoled screens :)

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Next time try the search button please, here is the link for now.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33936610&postcount=1027
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
The black background is already guaranteed because I don't like those crappy gradients. The blue icons and glow, well, I actually like them but I'll leave the majority of you to decide.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
m14ldroid has made a patch you can find in this thread that will revert the theming to stock. I linked once or twice to it too, so use the search function with some keywords and you'll find it.

"A sua resposta foi registada."

Why the spanish, Google? :p

I like the black personally, but the blue is overdone à la blue leds on kids computer cases/riced civic. My take on it.
[Nexus S Android Development] ScOULaris:
No theme, please! That was the only thing that kept me from using the 4.1.2 MDO as my daily.
[Nexus S Android Development] waterface:
Dunno, maybe this is worth a look. Or maybe you don't like the gradients, period- but this makes them much, much smoother.
[Nexus S Android Development] knzo:
Never mistake a Spanish for Portuguese, it's like saying a Canadian is American or a Chinese is Japanese, hehe.

I couldn't care less about your opinion and the only thing keeping you from using 4.1.2 as your daily. Vote to make a difference, don't post your personal opinion.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Aye my excuses, pretty bad error for someone who took Spanish for 3 years.
[Nexus S Android Development] ScOULaris:
You couldn't care less about my opinion, yet you put this particular issue to a vote? Well, I voted AND expressed my opinion in this thread. I'm sorry that this upsets you, but it looks like the majority prefers the stock look. The black backgrounds look terrible.
[Nexus S Android Development] Muvolt:
I agree...that's the only thing I don't like about rasbean roms generally