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[General Questions and Answers] trotos:
Hi,

I am looking for a new phone, I want it to be more than 4" and less than 5", lots of ram and bellow 300euros. I need it to be fast even when I got facebook, instagram and other heavy and crapy applications. all,

Maybe future proof device like 4 cores?

Also, I live in Greece but I can get my stuff from germany (friend works there).

I was looking for something like these:

LG Google Nexus 4

Samsung Galaxy S3 Neo

Amazon Fire

Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini

Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom

Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE

Huawei Ascend P6

HTC One mini

anything else???

Mo*to*ro*la Moto X (I can nto find any specific forum for that one!!!)

Samsung Galaxy S5 mini (that is a little bit more expensive but if it worth it)

P.S. I've also posted this here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1620179&page=1210

Ihave no idea why there are two seperate threats with the same topic
[General Questions and Answers] gogs74:
[Q] Moto G 2014 or xperia c3

I will be buying a new phone next week.My galaxy s3is on its last legs. I am tossing up between moto g 2014 or a xperia c3.

I am leaning towards the c3 as sony tend to make a nice phone and hopefully they will do a code drop for devs to do some work on it.

I am also thinking a moto g 2014 as devs are starting to work on it.

I dont want to waste money on a sony if it wont see any love or the moto g if this is as good as it gets.

All advice is appreciated
[General Questions and Answers] FridForce:
You should buy a Xiaomi mi3 instead of some Samsung crap.
[General Questions and Answers] Kekso:
Alcatel One Touch Idol 2 S

Greetings all! I'm a little noob when it comes to smartphones so i have to ask.I'm planning to buy Alcatel One Touch Idol 2 S next month and i'm wondering is this phone any good? I'm not looking for a high end phone,but i want it to run smoothly without major and constant stucking.And since Alcatel aren't that famous when it comes to smartphones i couldn't find a lot of reviews.One guy said that the speaker is a catastrophe and that music sound like crap.Is that true? Btw i don't have much money,this phone is currently availible in my country,do you think it's worth it? Thanks a lot,any help is appreciated! :)
[General Questions and Answers] r25txe:
I'm into customising and having control over most facets of my phones, but this level of detailing is, frankly, ridiculous.

Enjoy your phone, endless tinkering like this would just wear me down.

With regards your requirement of having a CM official build for your phone, I have happily switched between many custom ROMs on different phones-Omni, Resurrection, Dirty Unicorns, Spirit, Illusion, and more-without any issues.

It is as simple as having Titanium Pro to make zip backups that you flash in recovery and you are back up in 15 mins.

CM doesn't offer even half the customisation of most of those ROMs so you're getting the benefit of any tweaks you wish to activate, baked into the ROM, as opposed to hacky things like Xposed which will be much more stable than running a dozen Xposed modules and probably several other apps and services to reach the level of detailing you seem to aim for.
[General Questions and Answers] Nazo:
What are you talking about? It's not endless tinkering or heavy levels of detail or etc. It's mostly just install, freeze a handful of apps, restore my backups, change a few settings, and enjoy. Like I'm saying, most of what I need is already built in.

Yeah, I have no clue what you're talking about. CM offers tons of customizations. If you mean stuff like voltage control not being built in, ok, but all one has to do is install quite possibly any third party kernel at all and you have voltage control (though I have to say I don't like to overclock a phone/tablet and I'm disappointed at how little undervolting has really helped battery life -- especially since on my SGS3 I was able to decrease each range by about 125mV which is quite a large jump, so one would expect a similar result from battery life, but in fact it didn't change anything.) Other than that, every single thing I ever wanted to customize is customizable in CyanogenMod. (And just to be clear, it starts out stock just fine like pretty much a standard Android distro with just a few nice bonuses like the Privacy Guard -- you don't have to customize.)

I think we'll have to "agree to disagree" here because I can't even understand you frankly.
[General Questions and Answers] r25txe:
You don't think that looking for 100 step level for volumes is extreme detailing?

And you're right, you've no clue what I'm talking about. Added to that you've no clue what you're talking about yourself.

I'm glad you figured out for yourself that uV is just voodoo though.
[General Questions and Answers] Nazo:
No, it's not the specific number of steps that makes it more or less than any other form of customization. It's just a lack of options in the existing implementations (which currently only exist in Xposed via that really outdated module sadly.) In fact, if they'd just implement it properly, we'd basically have four or five fields or so with a slide bar that you'd just slide over and that's it, you're done. Just they won't bother to implement it since that would require a small amount of effort one time on their part (though the implementation would likely never be changed again if done right.)

Really it doesn't matter whether it's 100 steps, 30, 45, or just whatever. It's the same one customization. The only thing further is, as I said, it's really handy to change the number of steps for each type separately because they just aren't the same (you need more control when listening to music with headphones than you need in a phone call for instance.) Even that's just basically one extra little bit of customization. The only reason why it's such a pain in the rear for me to do it requiring such a messy method is just because Google is ignoring a lot of users telling them to fix it. (What I envision personally is super simple. Just have a single really simple configuration file or whatever and then anyone can make a free app that changes this configuration. Said free app would just be a handful of sliders followed by a reboot to apply and that's it.)

And undervolting shouldn't be "voodoo." Something is wrong. It's just how electricity works that if current remains constant and voltage is lowered, then less power is being used. I guess though the real problem is the display, GPU, and memory all use too much power no matter what you do with the CPU (my biggest annoyance is trying to get games to not eat through huge amounts of battery life and make everything run really hot and nothing I do can seem to actually achieve this.) Either way, this is clearly something that needs a lot of work to get these devices back to the efficiency levels they should be.
[General Questions and Answers] r25txe:
You're missing the elephant in the room.

Two actually.

Larger screens on phones requiring much more battery, regardless of your uV level. Your screen is always your #1 battery kicker.

Much more significant again is the fallacy of uV which will invariably lead to underclocking as the APU can't draw enough to run at full tilt.

This leads to the inevitable cycle that a task that could run at full tilt, be over sooner, and use less juice, doesn't and you end up with worse battery life.

Which then leads back to the first point where you may need your screen on for longer for that task to run.

Wash, rinse, and repeat.

And get worse battery.
[General Questions and Answers] :
You pretty near ninja'd me there - but I couldn't have one a better job explaining those points than you did. Nice job! :good:
[General Questions and Answers] whitedragon551:
[Q] Purchasing New Device on Contract

Currently I have a Galaxy S4 32Gb Mist Black with a 16Gb SD card.

I am eligible for my 2 year upgrade on Verizon and get a discounted new device.

I have been considering the Note 4, Galaxy S5, Note Edge, LG G3, and the Moto X.

I like the S4 size or larger. Ive been really leaning towards the Note 4 as I find the stylus useful, but not sure I can warrant a phablet.

I dont think the GS5 will be that large of an upgrade over the GS4.

I would prefer something I can root and custom ROM. I loved MIUI when I had my HTC Incredible, but havent been able to mod much due to the firmware that came on my GS4. Battery life I would like something that can go 1+ days which I dont think any of these phones will have an issue doing. Also would prefer something that was wireless AC capable as I use AC at home and work.

Whats the best phone in terms of dev support, rooting, etc. and what phone would you pick and why?
[General Questions and Answers] whitedragon551:
Bump. Looking to buy a new phone tomorrow. Any help would be appreciated.
[General Questions and Answers] Nazo:
Then you both missed the bigger "elephant" that I already pointed out those factors. Though don't assume the screen is always on for every task. My biggest focus on maximum battery life has been while the phone was relatively idle and the screen was off where it should be more affected by things such as the CPU. It's worth noting though that a task taking longer to complete at a lower clock rate and voltage does not guarantee the screen will be on any different length of time though. For instance, while browsing and using really bad sites like Facebook, even if it takes longer to process, I'm not going to stop using my phone while it loads or processes things. (Though that said, I think you might be surprised how little CPU power is needed to do most simple tasks when you don't have bloatware vying for processor time.) If the screen stays on the same length of time, we must remove it as a variable. Now, you've mentioned it taking longer -- this is true, but, the CPU is at the lower speed. Since it's the same amount of processing to be done either way, the result should be essentially taking exactly to scale longer. Namely, it should even out. Another variable removed. That said, yes, the screen is the biggest battery life stealer.

I've given up all hope of ever getting better battery life from games in Android. In that respect I was just hoping to reduce the amount of heat they were generating more than anything else. But after looking at the inside of a SGS3 and ripping off the screen (say what you want about broken screens, but MAN that glass is tough! I almost couldn't break it enough to get it off -- this was on a used model with a completely busted screen I was trying to salvage for every single modular part possible) I'm wondering if it might actually be the RAM of all things. (The SoC was almost completely out of contact with the casing, but Samsung's SDRAM chip was placed to actually contact with the metal part of the casing and as I recall had a thermal pad or something even.) Anyway, that said, the real problem ultimately is just how Android software works I suspect. That Java-like structure to things can't be good... I never did understand why they went that particular route since Android was already basically Linux based and there are tons of free (some even for commercial use!) SDKs and APIs that could have easily been adapted resulting in far more efficient designs.
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
If undervolting doesn't give you better battery life, then stop messing with it. Processors aren't all made equal. Have you never heard of binning? It is very possible that your phone got a mediocre chip, while the one next to it got a better one and has longer battery life. Undervolting and underclocking is largely a bunch of crap anyway. Maybe you can tweak it a bit and squeeze a few extra minutes, but that's likely all you'll get. Expecting great battery life from a phone with a 4.8" 720p screen and a 2300mAh battery is like expecting fewer fill-ups driving an SUV with a V8 and a 15 gallon tank.

BTW, are you still on the same old battery? Li-ion batteries deteriorate over time, and by ~500 charge/discharge cycles will have lost upwards of 20% of its original capacity, and if it's the original battery, you're well beyond that.
[General Questions and Answers] alvster:
So my note 2 motherboard has damaged.. No sim detected.. It would cost me alot to fix it.. Anyway i feel like getting a new phone.. What phone that is better than note 2 or equal and has an average price.. I love modding, roms and stuffs so probably suggest a popular phones instead of phones like asus that dont have many custom roms.
[General Questions and Answers] :
I'd recommend the Nexus 6. Do some research and see if it's a good fit for you.
[General Questions and Answers] alvster:
Dayumm the price exceeds my budget alott. Its a really good phone though anyway i feel like getting a nexus 5 but its seems outdated.
[General Questions and Answers] r25txe:
I think I'll just have to leave you to your misconceptions.

---------- Post added at 21:51 ---------- Previous post was at 21:43 ----------

Out of those, considering your modding requirements, the LG or the Motorola.

Verizon have a nasty habit of locking their bootloaders (SIII was locked and I guess up from that has been, too) so maybe Motorola can be unlocked direct with them as with the E & G.

I'm not sure about the LG, but Samsung have been rolling over and allowing locked bootloaders, so maybe they don't.

You need to visit the Verizon section for each of your preferred devices, even the Samsung ones, to check the bootloader status. You might be lucky.

If you want to buy unlocked phones with unlocked, or unlockable, bootloaders you are increasingly having to steer clear of AT&T & Verizon and buy SIM free/outright.
[General Questions and Answers] fast toggles:
Google Nexus 6! :D
[General Questions and Answers] dsunglao:
Nexus 6 :)
[General Questions and Answers] Ampicillin:
If you don't use much space then go for Motorola Moto G, Moto X 1st Gen. , Honor 6 is also good (but you will find little development on XDA) , LG G2

Mm-hmm, all are outdated smartphones but then I would go for Huawei Honor if I had to choose.

Edit: This is quite an old post which I didn't see. LOL
[General Questions and Answers] Hoosteen:
Currently have an iPhone 4S Up for upgrade on AT&T. Not real sure what to get as i'm fairly new to the various android phones. I've had 1 android phone in the past and it was a Samsung Captivate. Looking for decent camera, sd card, and screen size around 5"...may go higher depending on thinness of phone as i like to keep it in my front pocket of my pants. Any suggestions appreciated! I have looked at both the HTC One M8 and the LG G3 but am willing to wait a bit if need be. Budget, i'll be doing a 2yr contract again so anything under $199 is tolerable. Thanks!!
[General Questions and Answers] :
Actually, I'd highly recommend both of the phones you've already looked into - the LG G3 and the HTC One M8. Both of these have very good performance and fulfill your requirements.
[General Questions and Answers] Nazo:
Ok, coming back now after I got my M7 in the mail and started working on it. I gave up trying to fight with the old way of unlocking the bootloader (frigging Verizon. Everyone else can do it for free just by using the official developer program from HTC themselves -- it's officially allowed at the expense of warranty is all.) In the end I had to use the Sunshine software ($25 to unlock ONE device! This is otherwise known as "highway robbery.") *Sigh* But, anyway, it's S-Off and I got CyanogenMod installed without a hitch. Other than a disappointment that apparently software buttons aren't available on all hardware like I assumed (it's on the SGS3 which also has capacitive buttons on the bottom, so why not here too? There are third party solutions, but none I've seen so far were as nice as the built in one on CM for my SGS3) everything works just great. This M7 feels super comfortable in my hand and everything.

Oh, and for the record, I've been making frequent use of the whole USB OTG connector because I've had a lot of data to transfer from my old phone to the new and doing it through the computer or WiFi would take way too long. (Well, it's still a bit slow -- roughly 8MB/s or so -- but at least it's faster via USB.) Other than the USB drive I'm having to use chewing up the battery (seriously, it uses so much power the USB drive's casing even gets hot) everything worked through numerous connections and safe removals and charging still works fine. As I already suspected, it's basically a software issue with the stock software (or perhaps I should say "firmware" since it's higher up than just a simple database setting I think.)

Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for the suggestion. I don't know how I missed the M7 -- maybe I skipped it when I initially looked because of the lack of a SD card reader being built in, but then I need a device that suits me more than I need it to have tons of storage -- but it seems to work perfectly for what I've been needing all this time. I'm especially loving stuff like the screen (really high DPI since it's 1080p yet so small -- I have good eyesight, so a high DPI is really nice to me -- and the "SuperLCD3" seems to be quite a lot nicer to my eyes than OLED as well.) Thanks to your suggestion I do believe I have the phone I can keep using happily for hopefully years to come. The M7 doesn't have as much of a focus on all the little things like the SGS3 did (well, it does have an IR blaster, so I'm already installing a TV remote control app, lol,) but overall it's a pretty surprisingly good device and I really like it. Also, as a little surprise, the speakers are amazingly accurate. I expected absolute crap from anything with the "Beats" branding, but I assume that's just a crappy equalizer or something built in to add the Beats distortion and damage to the sound later on in the process (which obviously is something CM won't have built in -- though I guess you could change the equalizer settings to damage the sound yourself manually.) They're not super loud, but shockingly clear and accurate for phone speakers... Not something I expected at all.
[General Questions and Answers] Hoosteen:
Thanks for the response! Is there a preference among the community that one is better over the other? I know i'll be stuck with whichever one i pick for 2yrs so want to make sure i have a phone that's gonna still be able to keep up after that amount of time.
[General Questions and Answers] jshamlet:
This depends on what you plan to do with it. If you just want to use it, and possibly root it, either device is fine. I found the build quality to be comparable between the two. The LG has a slightly brighter display, while the HTC One has far better speakers. I didn't end up buying the LG, but I understand call quality is fairly similar - these are both flagship devices.

However, if you want to run alternate ROMs or switch carriers easily, the HTC One M8 is a LOT easier to work with. It has both official and unofficial bootloader unlocks, and if your device is supported by Sunshine, you can completely S-off the phone. Once you S-off a HTC One, it is almost as easy to work with as a Nexus device.
[General Questions and Answers] zach_95:
Can anyone suggests a phone that is not a flagship phone like htc,lg,sony and samsung that has 4.5" screen (physical button), has a decent camera (that's close to htc one camera) and good developer support? If possible a good battery life too. I don't need that big of storage because I hardly use even 1gb of my phone's memory. Thanks :D
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
I'm glad you found something that works well for you.
[General Questions and Answers] Misk77:
New model?
[General Questions and Answers] zach_95:
Well not really, since that always cost 300+

I'm talking more like ZTE Nubia Z5s mini or something like that. Any suggestions?
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
Nexus 4, Moto X 2013, Sony Xperia SP, Galaxy S3.
[General Questions and Answers] Misk77:
Galaxy s2 and s3(had booth, like the s2 most) . I feel like those are great phones. And a lot stuff if you gonna root /flash.

And not so expensive these days. You get a whole lot of phone for the price.
[General Questions and Answers] 20phileagles:
help picking a tablet

I see waaaay to many choices so Id like some feedback from you guys. Im looking for a tablet 10" touch screen, no less than 16GB of storage, keyboard. I work on tower cranes and a tablet would be much more convenient as opposed to carrying all my schematics and tools. I dont need all the bells and whistles but definitely need to be able to read pdf files and be able to edit them and save the changes. also need to be able to transfer the data to a PC preferably thru usb . USB charge would be nice and also a decent battery. I found this on amazon but im not familiar with any of these brands.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p...tablet&ie=UTF8&qid=1421501471&rnid=1254615011
[General Questions and Answers] jshamlet:
I would add this:

Assuming you want a GSM phone, the i727 Skyrocket is still an absolutely fantastic phone, and it supports LTE. It is very easily SIM unlocked, and once you get CWM or TWRP installed, trivially easy to work with. It's also surprisingly fast for a phone of its era, with a processor virtually equal to the Nexus 7 tablet.
[General Questions and Answers] zach_95:
Which has the best camera or at the fastest shutter speed?
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
I would rank the cameras Moto X, GS3, Xperia SP, and Nexus 4 going from best to worst in terms of quality. I can't speak for camera speed other than to say that the Sony does have the advantage of a dedicated camera button which supposedly launches it very quickly.
[General Questions and Answers] jayc137:
GS3's cam is worse than Moto X's?
[General Questions and Answers] Villy100:
Hi. I have a question. I own a tablet nexus 7 2013 and a galaxy s3. I want a better smartphone but I can't afford only to sell the s3 and buy another smartphone. If you would be in my place, you would sell the s3 and the nexus 7 for a 2014 smartphone? With the money from those two and a little more extra, in my country I can buy almost any smartphone (not new but almost new), except Iphone 6( anyway I am not a fan of Iphone), Nexus 6 . And If yes, what smartphone will be better than nexus 7 ( at performance and display)? I want to mention that I am not worried about the size. I can change the 7' for 5'. Thank you and sorry for my bad english...
[General Questions and Answers] android1288:
Plz suggest me mobile under 15k(indian rupee)
[General Questions and Answers] Lynon Smith:
Galaxy tab 4 7.0 or nexus 7?

Ive needed a tablet since my rooted nook tab gave out. i really like nexus 7 and galaxy tab 7.0. the nexus has a bit better specs but no expandable storage. just want to know what you think about the 2.
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
I'd rather have the LG G Pad 7.0 than the Samsung. The Nexus 7 2013 is definitely a better tablet than both, with a better processor, 2GB RAM, and 1080p screen. It doesn't have microSD slot, but you can always plug in a microUSB OTG (on the go) cable with a thumb drive. If you can swing the cash, the LG G Pad 8.3 trumps them all, and isn't much bigger in size/weight.
[General Questions and Answers] Lynon Smith:
Thanks

Thanks! I'll check it out.
[General Questions and Answers] kach97:
The new generation Saygus V2

If people are interested in buying the high end smartphones

I suggest the newly annouced saygus v2 might be the phone to wait for

It has all the compatible high end devices with just one drawback that is the dual sim unavailibility ;) :rolleyes:

The watch out is on as the unrecognised company is going to launch the phone at a very compatible price of less than 200$ -300$
[General Questions and Answers] Villy100:
There is no one that can give me an advice?
[General Questions and Answers] kach97:
re

I think u should go for the one + 1

even the saygus v2 is a good choice if u could wait for sometime

The low price option u have is the Asus Zenfone 2015 the first ever phone with 4gb ram
[General Questions and Answers] jayc137:
I won't recommend selling both of them (could sell the S3 though). Try buying a 1+1 or a Moto X.