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[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
I usually suggest the Xiaomi Note 8 Pro, with mediatek, but thanks to your animosity against xiaomi, won't suggest that :laugh:. For your kid, get a cheap xiaomi. As long as you don't root them or tinker with them, they are good and cheap phones. Use a custom launcher for the ugly interface. As for you, you can get a OnePlus Nord N100. Just launched, the phone appeals to a lot of fans, surely will have an easy rooting experience and plethora of roms.
[General Questions and Answers] go vegan:
Let's put it this way: If my house was on fire, I wouldn't buy a Xiaomi fire-extinguisher to put it out.

If it ain't good enough for me, and good enough value for me, it ain't good enough for my kid (we're both still using Redmi 5A phones w/ CR-Droid, which we've both outgrown). That and my animosity/aversion towards anything Xiaomi (for all the reasons I mentioned) I wouldn't spend money on their products, period. Also, as much as unlocking their phones is now a panopticon, using their firmware is even worse.

The OnePlus Nord has caught my attention, but locally (8GB/128GB) the price tag is almost $700 NZD ($450-500 USD). I can get one from overseas for over $500 NZD (about $370 USD) but that's still a lot more than I want to spend on something that I (or my kid) can lose or break as easily as a phone.
[General Questions and Answers] pyereciae2788:
Woah, long discussion... Anyway, after using various devices, all somehow being damaged past usability except my current one (don't ask how, it's a long story), I'm looking for one that would actually meet my expectations: rootable (preferred), home buttom (preferred), privacy-focused, able to use APKs for installing apps (no store or one that can be disabled is ok), removable bloatware if possible (using ADB is an option), can be used without accounts, and the size of a samsung galaxy s7 (my current device) or smaller. I don't pay attention to the brand, but I'm ok with trying a non-samsung device. One I found that I found interest in is /e/, but it's currently not available in my country (or for my device for self-rooting).

Any suggestions are welcome. I'm also looking to see if I could somehow root my samsung galaxy s7 (sm-g930t) or get another OS (or something) on it, just in case I can't get another device. I've read that "changing" models is possible...

EDIT: Here's a list of stuff I don't use on my current device (if that will help): all google stuff, all samsung stuff*, nfc, bluetooth, memo/notes, bookmarks, tags, flipgrid/briefing, lookout... (It's a long list of stuff I either don't use or use an alternative.)

*I do have a samsung account, but until I learned that apps can be installed from APKs, I haven't used it since then/long ago (I also forgot the password, too, but I don't mind).

EDIT 2: I have tmobile as my carrier (for my sim card), so something that's compatible with that. Also, another spot for an sd card is good, too. A decent amount of storage and good CPU/memory is preferred, along with good internet connection. I would go for any in the low hundreds (<$400).
[General Questions and Answers] cheater00:
Hi all,

my Moto G5s Plus died a while back and Black Friday is coming, so I thought I'd ask the wise people here what to get. I'm looking for something that's:

1. Very reliable. Good quality hardware. I use the phone 20 hours a day, mainly for youtube, twitter, chrome, gmail, and the likes, and it needs to be able to do this.

2. rootable, if possible flashing. Must have really good support from the community for that

3. 5.5" or larger. We can go big. At least 1080x1920, more is better, but I was fine with 1080x1920 on 5.5".

4. SLC flash if possible (I don't know what technologies are even being used nowadays - I am looking for something that will be reliable, unlike my last few phones, which seem to all have had data corruption)

5. Physical home button very strongly preferred

6. Dual SIM, with SD card, preferably separate sim and sd card slot (unlike my Moto G5s Plus had)

7. I'm not looking for it to be the /fastest/, I don't need an excellent GPU, I don't game on it. But a bunch of memory would be a plus

8. I don't really care about having a UI like Samsung's or Moto's, I know people complain it's bloatware, but I don't really care that much

9. Not /too/ expensive. The Samsung flagships are way beyond what I want to put into a phone. I stay home 24/7 nowadays, so there isn't really a good reason to invest big. Roughly up to $400-500 or 400-500 Euro (before the Black Friday price reductions are counted) is fine.

10. It doesn't have to be this year's model, but it must be available new (so the black friday sales apply).

11. Good battery life is a plus. I don't need wireless charging, NFC, finger print sensors, the latest bluetooth, and stuff like that. A good camera is a big plus, though. As is a physical headphone output. Not getting very hot during browsing and youtube is pretty important. Repairability is a big plus.

12. Ability to use Google Play Store (just to get apps). I don't really care that much about sideloading, I want rootability in order to be able to backup, modify files on the system, get rid of file system bloat, migrate apps to other devices, etc.

I would appreciate any pointers. Thanks a lot!
[General Questions and Answers] gabling23:
What's the best option at the for a low/medium end phone around 200 euros.

The phone is for my gf and she's a pretty basic user so she doesn't game, no modding, no need for anything extra.

I'm looking for something reliable, that's gonna last and is going to be updated for 2/3 years and that has good battery life.

At the moment the best options that I found are in this order:

1 realme 7 5g (229€)

2 xiaomi mi10t lite (250€)

3 redmi note 9 pro (240€)

4 realme 7 (199€)

5 poco X3 nfc (210€)

Which one do you think is the best in this situation? Am I missing any other good candidate?

Inviato dal mio SM-G970F utilizzando Tapatalk
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
You could go with Xiaomi Black Shark. The first generation. (https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_black_shark-9164.php). A home button was the hype 5 years ago. Nowadays it just takes too much from the screen, therefore it was dropped as a feature.
[General Questions and Answers] T.Y.M.SAI:
moto is also a chinese company owned by lenovo

if you need custom roms then only chinese phones are an option.

only left are SAMSUNG and NOKIA and both are good but have almost no development
[General Questions and Answers] cheater00:
Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, it is not available new on amazon.
[General Questions and Answers] mrrocketdog:
you might can find it new or open box on ebay [emoji3]

or check swappa.
[General Questions and Answers] cheater00:
Not interested in that - I am looking to buy on Amazon because 1. I'll get two years of hassle free warranty and 2. Black Friday is coming so phones will be much cheaper
[General Questions and Answers] jaxx80:
Hello

I need to buy a new phone and I need a help to decide between these 2 phones:

(I can get them for approximately the same price)

I use the phone mainly for browsing, videos and photos, occasional games.

- Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 4G , 6GB/128GB

++ better low light camera, better telephoto, IP68 rating, SD card slot

-- worse processor, worse battery life, possible problems with touchscreen

- Xiaomi MI 10T Pro

++ better processor, more ram and internal storage, 5G, better charger, Mi Band 5 free with the phone

-- worse low light camera, worse telephoto, no SD card slot, no IP68 rating

(good LCD vs AMOLED does not make big difference to me)

I would have bought the S20 FE, but now I am worried about possible touchscreen problems.

What is your opinion?

Thanks in advance
[General Questions and Answers] arik100:
what's the best budget-community supported root - phone?

I don't need 5G, type C is must, fast charge is quite welcome to say the least

around 150$ i think
[General Questions and Answers] T.Y.M.SAI:
Mi 10TPro is better than samsung s20 fe 4g

It support gcam

It has large battery for videos

Support both 4,5G so better in browsing experience

And Snapdragon is always better than Exynos for gaming

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Only 4 options you have

1. Redmi Note 9Pro , Poco M2 Pro

2. Redmi Note 8

3. Redmi Note 7/7S

4. Wait for Redmi Note 10

I recently bought Redmi Note 8 and everything is okay ,

i didn't buy 9 series because of camera dust in many units .

i didn't buy 7 series because I needed fast charging

Redmi Note 8 - 18W charging, CGGlass 5, 4000mAh, SDM665, custom roms available,

Other than Chinese phone none have community development
[General Questions and Answers] go vegan:
Cheap, decent, good community support, and not made by Xaiomi. What should I get?

And I don't care if the camera shoots like a potato.
[General Questions and Answers] T.Y.M.SAI:
nokia 6.1plus

nokia 7.1

oneplus nord

samsung,oppo,vivo none of them have development
[General Questions and Answers] go vegan:
The Nord looks nice, but for about one third the price I can grab a Nokia 7.1 or a Moto G8 Power.

I like smaller and lighter, but the Moto G8 Power is overall a newer and nicer phone, with a much bigger battery and unlocking is officially supported.

My concern with the Moto G8 Power is what the future holds for ROMs. Looks like the few ROMs available for it are all unofficial builds.
[General Questions and Answers] pyereciae2788:
Rewording what I'm looking for:

A device, specifically a phone, has little bloatware to deal with, cheap/low price, good customer and community support, tmobile carrier, home button, and not samsung? I'm interested in trying something new. Rootable is preferred.

EDIT: Android-based, please. I like being able to install apps as APKs without a store.
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Bloatware is a subjective matter. For example I like using Samsung apps, therefore would call pixel a smartphone with lot of bloatware.

Second, home buttons went almost extinct in 2015, nowadays are quite rare. Barely seen on some mid range phones, which won't get any attention from the community or mother company. You want something new and cheap? Get a Xiaomi, they still play ball with developing communities. If your problem might be with the ads, those things drop the price by a lot and can be easily turned off.

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https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10052&idPhone2=10289#diff-

The comparison between the nord and g8 power. The nord has way better more better specs than the g8 power. Oneplus is a loved mobile maker, therefore you will find tens of custom roms at least. The 900 mah difference isn't gonna be noticeable. I get around 2 days on heavy use with a 4500 mah. More battery on g8 power will not matter when it will take a long time to fulfill those task. Plus the 90hz screen on the oneplus is a nice addition. But sure, it's your decision how do you want to spend your next years. Frustrated at the lack of support and development or a bit sad that you ve thrown 250€ more on a very good phone. Good luck with your decision
[General Questions and Answers] T.Y.M.SAI:
moto is also a chinese company,customer support is not good as nokia .

if you can afford OP Nord then go for it .

nokia 7.1 is an option if can't spend on nord

overall nord is best in everything but costs more than 7.1

it depends on you if you drop,sctrach,burn,lost your mobile regularly then go for nokia 7.1 but its a way old phone

if you keep your phone secure then go for nord.

or just wait for nord10,nord100
[General Questions and Answers] pineappleftw:
Pixel 4XL or PIxel 5? both are really close in pricing
[General Questions and Answers] pyereciae2788:
Hopefully the 'bloatware' is removable (otherwise I'll use ADB). As for the home button, it was a preferred option.

I'll look into Xiaomi (and to see if it's compatible with my carrier). Ads shouldn't be a problem; I use adblocking apps just for that reason. Curious to know how ads could be turned off; I haven't heard that before.
[General Questions and Answers] pyereciae2788:
I'm thinking of possibly getting an LG G6 (tmobile, unlocked) from amazon here. The price is decent, and I could get it pretty soon. But I'm wondering about removable bloatware (a must, as I like it clean) and rootability (not necessary). Hopefully the camera is better than a samsung galaxy s7's.

Any thoughts?
[General Questions and Answers] go vegan:
As a point of reference, I'm upgrading from a Redmi 5A. Except for running out of space, and the battery getting old, I'm entirely content with that old phone. I carry a camera for taking pictures, I don't do any gaming. It's basically just for looking up directions, talking and texting, and similar low-horsepower usage. That said, I do like the flexibility and customisation (and privacy enhancements, at least in theory) that I can get from rooting and installing a nice ROM.

So the selection of ROMs pushes me towards a Nord or a Pixel, but the hardware requirements and price-tags push me more towards low/mid range phones.

That said, my Redmi 5A looks almost new; my kid's 5A looks like it's been run over, but it still works. I've never lost or broken a phone, but I'm still reluctant to spend too much money on something that's as easy to lose or break as a phone, especially when the cheaper hardware seems more than sufficient to meet my hardware needs.

Local prices (lowest to highest):

Moto G8 Power ≈ $275 NZD, $190 USD

Nokia 7.2 ≈ $400 NZD, $280 USD

Nokia 7.1 ≈$450 NZD, $315 USD

Oneplus Nord (128GB) ≈ $655 NZD, $460

Pixel 4a ≈ $740 NZD, $520 USD​

They're all bigger and more powerful than I need, and they all cost more than I want to spend.
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
How about one of these :

1. Realme C3i

2. Samsung Galaxy M11

3. Xiaomi Poco M3
[General Questions and Answers] T.Y.M.SAI:
nokia 6.1 plus ?
[General Questions and Answers] galaxys:
Maybe the OnePlus Nord 128gb...
[General Questions and Answers] T.Y.M.SAI:
no its price is more than to spend
[General Questions and Answers] xdaprogramm:
Im usually a gamer especially on PC but not really your typical PUBG/shooter or insert any super hard graphics latest games om mobile that my career depends on lol. Even so, I do need a phone that allows better performance as even not so demanding PC games that I may make myself if just 1080p or something will not lag, I should be even able to launch a game like war3 through exagear without much hassle (this was already doable with phones from 2016). I have been using my old phone with ROMS, Magisk as I need some programs like Exagear working. But recently some apps from Google seem to demand non-rooted phones, no custom ROMs.

Im not much fan of iphone, so we can skip this phone, right now I hesitate between these two. Black Shark and Nubia I have made my mind if it will be a gaming phone, Asus phone 3, so we can skip the other gaming phones.

But there are things that make me wonder about it - what restrictions are with the Asus rog - forced UI, OK I like cool UI usually gaming interface looks nice. But no opportunity to add SD card... maybe even 128GB will be enough. I can deal without a Phone jack that is added to some cooling fan accessory but still other things that one has to know before buying?

Otherwise, I would rather keep Android 10 that comes with the phone, no root for me ROMs were mostly to make older phone work with newer stuff. But then would need to be able to bind a folder to existing folder of e.g app like Exagear can only see Download folder, if any apps exist out there that can do it without having to modify your default OS?

And if OnePlus is able to provide a decent performance when it comes to higher graphics.. then it can be an option as well. So which one you think with these preferences?

Why are some saying Camera looks not so good compared to other phones, arent they same hardware? Is camera bad for asus phone?
[General Questions and Answers] xdaprogramm:
I cant edit it seems? So tl-dr OnePlus 8 Pro or Asus Rog 3 I dont think I need more than 128 GB. I would easily go for Asus 3 if not: cannot add SD card, no phone jack except on some cooling fan, slower updates for Android, camera less good.
[General Questions and Answers] DJCarlos:
Hello all,

I am the kind of person who takes real care with my things so I have a samsung s8 in perfect shape.

I don't really was considering changing, but my girlfriend has this really old phone, and I spent most of the time installing uninstalling apps as she only have 8g hard drive (samsung j3 2016).

So I was thinking about getting a new phone for me, and offering my s8.

I need a phone with good battery (I dont play almost ever on the phone )

But I spend lots of time on videos, browsing, social apps etc.

And With a nice camera.

And having a good life expectancy as I will take good care.

Not a huge screen is fine (s8 is fine, or a little bigger is not a problem).

I don't normally root my phones I just do regular updates.

(But probably I should)

I want to avoid laggy phones,I don't want to spend time waiting between switching apps, etc)

Seen the price drop of the s20 and pixel 5 price I was considering those 2 options.

How do you feel about it, you who are most experienced?

Or do you recommend another one?

I was considering spending 600 euros more or less.

Giving the life expectancy I was thinking about adding the 5G in order to be ready?

Thanks all for your time.
[General Questions and Answers] pyereciae2788:
Hi. You should be able to edit. There's a little edit button at the bottom of the post you wish to edit.
[General Questions and Answers] neccowafer:
A few weeks ago @merlindu12 asked for best rugged phone for custom ROM, and the only response I can find was CatS62: https://xdaforums.com/t/what-phone-...-device-to-buy-ask-here.1846277/post-83539557

I don't have a Cat62, but I do have a CatS61 and Cat phones in general seem pretty locked down. See for Cat S61 rooting discussion:

https://xdaforums.com/t/wanting-to-root-new-cat-s61.3817916/

And I recall similar multi-year waits for root method on other Cat phones.

Does anyone else have a suggestion for a rootable / custom ROMable rugged phone?

Some parameters:

* To use in US, with T-Mobile

* budget of up to to $1000

* size and weight fairly unimportant, but not tablet sized

* real ruggidization, not just a case; working underwater in salt water is a must

* fairly recent (eg 2019 second half or newer)

* rootable

* camera not terrible

* large storage OR sd / microsd card slot

Nice to haves include:

* good camera

* exotic sensors like FLIR and TVOC (which the S61 has, and I use)

* usb-c

* real buttons for home, etc

I will never notice if missing:

* bluetooth

* NFC

* fingerprint sensor

* earphone jack
[General Questions and Answers] pyereciae2788:
I'm still debating on phones, and I did a bit of research but could barely come up with anything. I found LG G6 or G8 to somewhat fit, but I want to see if there's more choices for me.

My limitations:

- compatible with T-Mobile

- price under $600 if possible

- 6 in or smaller size (hopefully), but definitely not >7 in

- decent camera, but not centered on the phone's backside

- android, but not samsung

- removable bloatware that won't cause problems when removed

- decent storage space

- good RAM (>2 GB hopefully)

- external slot for SIM card

- good battery (preferred: lasting more than a day with moderate usage)

Optional:

- home button

- rootable

- hole for earphones

- slot for microSD card

Not important at all:

- bluetooth

- nfc

- sensors

- app store

- location tracking

- payment apps/methods
[General Questions and Answers] Trionic3000:
Hello all.

For any US carrier and any manufacturer, are there any options that can check these boxes?:

1. on the go swappable battery

2. micro SD port

3. Nougat or later, natively or via upgrade

4. dependably rootable with ROMs I can explore and learn about (hopefully), or minimally unbloatable.

5. something from probably the 2016-2018 time-frame (with more than 2 GB RAM hopefully) that I can get refurbished and unlocked

My wife and I have been running Galaxy S5's on Verizon for quite a few years now but she recently bought a fitbit versa 2 that needs Nougat.

We're not heavy users and mainly do light surfing to look at news and email, take some pictures, text, do a little shopping sometimes, and maybe use GPS a little; functionally the S5 does basically what we want it to do. I've disabled as much as possible and we run Firefox but I've been curious about what's possible running different ROMs. I also resent the bloat and now I'm even less of a Verizon fan as I do more research.

So I tried my first root and found that both of our S5's are CID 11 phones, and I got it rooted with a downgrade into Lollipop, but then after some frustration I figured out that because it's a Verizon CID 11 phone an upgrade isn't possible past Marshmallow lol, which is where I started. So then I was trying to figure out how to buy a S5 with CID 15, but then really what I am getting other than being able to reuse our batteries and maybe spare parts..

We're older but have young kids to pay-for, we're both past the stage in our lives where spending a lot of money on the latest and greatest phone is a priority (there's a Motorola V70 in box somewhere around here...)

Thanks for any consideration! Any/all comments or suggestions are appreciated
[General Questions and Answers] revanraven:
Hello guys, Iam currently on a tight budget and eyeing Poco x3 NFC and the new note 9 pro 5g.

I'm not much of a gamer and not an adept android user, I prefer phone with stability and longevity, so which one should I purchase?
[General Questions and Answers] NoMad28:
Employer says I should pick a new phone, so here I am...

I'm based in Germany, currently using a OnePlus 3 which I'm perfectly happy with apart from the low speaker volume and dropped support (no more security updates)

My criteria for a new phone (important to unimportant):

* Updates & Support for >2 years, the longer the better

* Rootable (not requiring full wipe for updates if possible?)

* WiFi 6 (802.11ax)

* Fast Charge

* Fast USB file transfer

AFAIK encryption is a must for Android devices nowdays so I didn't explicitly list that, and more than 1 cam lens seems to be de-facto standard anyway.

I like the dedicated fingerprint reader on my OP3 but that seems to have gone the way of the dodo along with 3.5mm aux.

Price-wise... My employer pays, but let's go with a $700 max.

Plus Points for optional extras would be

* Repairability (Spare Parts availability)

* No notch (if that's still a thing?)

The only 2 reasons I give up on my current OP3 are the very quiet speaker piece (already swapped once, no difference) and missing security updates. Everything else works perfectly fine.

I'm eyeing the OP 8T but if I remember correctly, OnePlus dropped support for the 3 + 3T simultaneously, so as the OP 8 is out since April that's 6 monts less support for the T version.
[General Questions and Answers] Dodson99:
I prefer iPhone 12 😃