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[General Questions and Answers] Needaphoneagain:
Whelp. I am looking for a new phone and need some help.

I would not think what I want is that complicated but it ended up being that way.

Basically I have a google pixel 2 that is okay. But I have replaced it 4 times under warranty and it is finally paid off so I can replace it while it is still worth a little money.

My biggest issues I ever had with the phone (other than reliability) was the lack of a headphone jack and wireless charging.

I think the perfect phone is the Note 9 (if not a little bit big). I tried to buy one last week on Ebay that said it was new, but it turned out to be a year old and it is getting refunded. I have a hard time paying $800 for a new one being that it is older now (maybe $600 max for a new one).

But these are the things I would like:

Water proof (IPS68 I believe it is the current norm for phones)

Headphone jack

No hole punched out for a front camera (a chin bar would be okay if needed, like the iphone bar for example)

Fingerprint reader on the back

A camera comparable to the Pixel 2

Battery life of the Pixel 2 or better

Wireless charging

USB Type C

Always on display (or at least a LED notification light)

Work on Verizon

I do not play games on the phone or anything intensive. But I use the camera at work to take pictures of parts, the GPS on the motorcycle (hence the water resistance and battery life plus I stream lots of music), and the always on display is important because then I dont need to touch the phone to check for messages.

I dont really have a budget, but I care more about value than anything else. I dont mind spending $1,100 if it is truly perfect, but if it has compromises I then that is a problem.

Are there other options I dont know about?

Edit

Found a new note 9 for a reasonable price. If it is new then I should be good.
[General Questions and Answers] Nemix77:
I need a new phone soon, Redmi Note 8 Pro is a no go unless, I don't care about development support.

From what I know, all the good developers (Xiaomi EU, MiuiMix, etc.) have given up on Mediatek chip and rightfully so.

I feel bummed because for the specs, the Redmi Note 8 Pro is priced extremely good however, I'm not content with just root.

So I'm now trying to decide between the slower Redmi Note 8 or more expensive but not faster Redmi K30.

*Please don't tell me there's going to be development support for the Redmi Note 8 Pro and the phone is just too new right now (I have my sources).*
[General Questions and Answers] CamoGeko:
If you get a OnePlus device you'll have every bit of development support you want here on XDA. Or maybe something like a cheap older Pixel.
[General Questions and Answers] tsongming:
Avoid Mediatek processor's and as long as the bootloader is unlockable there will very likely be development. Also if you budget is $200 this version of the phone is available with the snapdragon processor : https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B082FRMQXX/ref=sspa_mw_detail_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Frankly, if you can spend $200 why not spend $50 more and buy the Mi 8. It seriously has everything I out could want in a phone and for cheap! The snapdragon 845 will blow any 2019 mid range processor away in terms of performance, the battery life is excellent and it has an extremely good camera. Finally, yes plenty of great ROMs, including the actual Pixel 3 XL rom, and Xiaomi.EU is absolutely outstanding, and they just released their 12 build on Android 10.. extremely stable.

I wouldn't bother with MiuiMix, they simply add a kernel based on outdated source to Xiaomi.Eu and some redundant manual battery savings which are handled automatically by Mi AI, so pointless.
[General Questions and Answers] Nemix77:
I'm going to agree with you one this one but let list a few reasons why I cannot get a OnePlus device:

- Budget (Although OnePlus 8 Lite maybe coming)

- No 3.5mm jack

- AMOLED (No love for burn-in panels)

All things aside I'd love to try out OxygenOS with root and mods. Developer support seems to be really good for OnePlus devices too.
[General Questions and Answers] fedett92:
Good evening,

I'm planning to retire my companion of lots of adventures, Samsung Galaxy Note 4.

Since the newest model, Galaxy Note 10+ is way out of my budget, I'm looking for alternatives.

I would like a long lasting phone and Sony Xperia and pixel have always fascinated me.

I've found the Sony Xperia 1 at 550€, while the pixel 3a xl is placed at 479€.

Technically speaking the Sony Xperia should be the best pick, considering the tech specs but I'm really intrigued by the pixel phone because of.

-top camera, even without ultra wide

-long lasting support and updates

-lot of support here at xda and internet forums

-especially for this model, a really powerful battery for heavy usage

I'm just concerned about the 64gb only (now I'm using a 128gb SD card) and about the performance.

Maybe the Xperia is more future proof given its specs?

I don't play games, but I used it quite heavily every day with pictures, surfing, lot of messaging (no fb, Twitter, ig) and different working tasks (pdf, excel etc).

Thank you
[General Questions and Answers] shampow:
I'd go with Xperia 1 without a doubt if specs.

I'd look Xiaomi and OnePlus devices though, or even the Axon 10, if you want more XDA activity in that price range.
[General Questions and Answers] 350Rocket:
I'm selling a pixel XL 128gb that I replaced with another OnePlus 5 (my first one I had 2 years then drowned in the ocean).

The pixel has very slight burn in at the bottom, but I think it has very little usage because the battery is at 96% health and it was on a year old version of the beta program software. Also some minor scratches on the screen.

The OnePlus I bought was definitely used a bit more but has 91% battery health and zero burn in on the screen and almost zero scratch on the screen (definitely seems to be a bit more durable glass and AMOLED compared to the pixel and an s8 (I had one twice).

My original op5 also got no burn in after 2 years and very minor scratches on the screen. I even dropped that one a few times and only got a couple dents.
[General Questions and Answers] Nemix77:
Still deciding right now but I'll PM you if anything.
[General Questions and Answers] Warren_Orange:
Hi.

After many years of running stock and using Huawei's (p9 plus, p20 pro) and Xiaomi (note 6 pro) I have decided to go back to my old habits and start flashing phones again.

At the moment I am using a Moto X that I flashed with Lineage 6 and I have caught the flashing bug again.. I bought a Pixel 2XL thinking I could get along with a stock experience but I hate the size and all the google intrusive crap.

I have been offered a Nexus 5X for £60 but I am scared about the bootloop issue but ROM activity looks great for an old phone.

What other 2nd hand phone would be great for a flasher?

Phone must have Amoled if possible and be no bigger than 5.5 inch. Max £60/$70.
[General Questions and Answers] 350Rocket:
Original pixel/pixel XL, OnePlus 3 or 3t are the first to come to my mind for an older rom friendly phone. Nexus 5x is getting fairly old now and it could have the boot loop issue. However with this much time passed it it didn't fail already maybe it just won't.
[General Questions and Answers] Warren_Orange:
Hi.

I'm not into the bezels of those phones but I may reconsider. I think I may have to up my budget to around a ton. I have my eye on a OP 5T but the size is a turn off.
[General Questions and Answers] 350Rocket:
I have the OnePlus 5 and I love it. I'd prefer the 5t obviously because of the bezels but I find the 5 very comfortable and easy to hold when I'm using it for work. The pixel XL is much less ergonomic at the same size.

I would love a more modern looking phone but this is the best deal I could get at the performance level and I wanted dual Sims for work.
[General Questions and Answers] Warren_Orange:
Yes I think it will be the OP5t at some point in the future. I'm shocked by how poor the Amoled is on the Pixel 2 XL and this was meant to be a later revision. OP5 screens are much better as they are from Samsung not LG.
[General Questions and Answers] 350Rocket:
I noticed the same. Also the glass doesn't scratch as easily on the OnePlus 5 compared to the pixel XL or Samsung s8 I had.
[General Questions and Answers] CamoGeko:
OnePlus 5 is still one of the most well rounded Android devices released in recent years. Its a great build, its light, easy to unlock and flash ROMs, decent battery etc...

I had one myself for about 6 months before I moved to the Essential Phone, passed on the OP5 to my step-dad and now my mum uses it. So its literally been all over, and still going strong! Love that phone. :good:
[General Questions and Answers] 350Rocket:
I had mine for 2 years. Forgot it in my shorts and jumped in the ocean. Best phone I've had but I thought I'd try something different since I had to buy another one anywauy. I tried the Galaxy s8, then a pixel XL, eventually had to go back to the OnePlus. Mainly for the dual Sims but everything else is better except maybe for the camera which is still amazing, just not quite up to the pixel. Not noticeable in daily use but probably if I compared them side by side.

I need to soon get ready to unlock it for when software support finally ends and I need to flash custom roms.

I've dropped both op5's a couple of times with minor dings and scratches and that's it. The second one is almost like new still, the first was pretty beat up but had a fairly scratch free screen still.
[General Questions and Answers] snyft:
I'm looking for a 500$ phone (cheaper is better).

I want custom rom's, good camera, good battery, 3.5 jack and hopefully 2 years android os support.

I have scoured the internet and it seems for now my options are:

Redmi K20 Pro 8GB RAM 256GB - $410

Xiaomi Mi Note 10 6GB RAM 128GB - $540

OnePlus 7T 8GB RAM 256GB. - $540

That being said i can wait to early next year if any new interesting phones are on the horizon (k30 maybe?)

The Redmi is cheapest and most interesting, i have my doubts about their support for newer android versions though (they release too many phones yearly).

OnePlus is a well known brand that i think will have good OS support.

I have no idea what to decide though really. Any ideas, thoughts and suggestions would be nice.
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
New phones are always gonna come. Now all 3 phones have extraordinary potential. All 3 are close to the best phones in their category. See which one you like the most. All to your preference. Personally i would go with the redmi, price wise. You can use the spare 100$ to buy some nice headphones.
[General Questions and Answers] snyft:
I really like the redmi BUT i don't like this having to pay somebody to unlock ur phone if it bricks. I don't have any Xiaomi service center near me.

The camera and sound quality also have me a bit worried.

Ugh why it have to be hard to buy things.
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Personally i am going with an Xiaomi Note 8 Pro for this christmas. Custom roms arent what they ve used to be, a groundbreaking feature than speeds up your phone twice or somewhat like that. With root you barely get around 15% more performance, at the cost of your warranty. The amount of bloatware on a phone with 8 gigs of ram is going to slow it down only negligible. 540 $ are a lot of money, to buy a fast value deprecating piece of plastic/ glass. Considering that i ve payed 1100 $ for a very good gaming pc 2 years ago (still can play red dead redemption on 4k), paying half of it for a phone isnt worth it. The redmi and xiaomi holds the best value, money - what you get. Oneplus is more brand than phone. Used to be way cheaper the other years. If you really want to buy a good phone, go with oneplus. You could even go with the mclaren version. Good luck and happy christmas !
[General Questions and Answers] snyft:
Yeah I changed my mind on the price point. Oneplus is too expensive.

Will probably also buy a Note 8 Pro we will see.

Just hope i can use Nova launcher on MIUI.

Thank you! Happy Christmas and a good new year to you as well :)
[General Questions and Answers] djsolidsnake86:
currently i have mido, i love the community modding, what device can i choose for move on?
[General Questions and Answers] CamoGeko:
There's still plenty of development going on for the Snapdragon 835 devices. Those are your best bet if you love community modding so much.

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[General Questions and Answers] djsolidsnake86:
what about mi 9 lite?
[General Questions and Answers] HatMan22:
Please help me to buy a dev friendly mobile.

- Near $200 (best money value)

- Custom ROM support

- Good Processor and GPU (going to use for app development)

- 4 GB RAM

- Camera does not matters.

- Good Battery if possible
[General Questions and Answers] DonnieFox:
Hi, i'm looking for a new phone. My budget is up to 500€. I'm from Germany, if this maybe matters for considerations about manufacturer or model.

I don't use the phone much, mainly for phone calls, as calendar and notebook, some internet browsing, when necessary. And I would like to use the phone for listening music and audio apps.

must haves:

- good and maintained custom rom support (just normal Lineage)

- easy to unlock

- headphone jack

- long lasting (robustness and quality of hardware should make it last about 4 years+)

- long battery lifetime

- small sized (compareable to my Galaxy S4 mini, a bit bigger is ok)

- fingerprint sensor or face recognation

nice to haves:

- manufacturer supports unlocking (no loss of warranty)/custom ROMs

- manufacturer with a sustainable concept (like fairphone)

I thought about buying a shiftphone - I like the concept very much and there is a lineage rom for the shiftphone, but not with very much maintaince and support. So I’m afraid of experiencing major bugs and I just want the phone to work for a while, after i set it up

- good audio
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Mate, instead of throwing 500 euros on a expensive phone, why not go with a midrange one? Guaranteed manufacturer suport for at least 2 years. After 2 years you can just change it for another mid range phone. Just bought an Xiaomi Note 8 Pro (just 220€) and i am impressed by it so far. Battery lasts me around 2 days (same type of usage as you). Custom roms arent what they ve used to be. You barely gonna notice a difference on a phone with 6+ gb of ram. And the amount of bloatware isnt going to slow your phone at all. Size seems it matters for you, problem is there are less and less phones on that size. Now you ve got articles that include the s8 as a "small phone". There are almost no chances to get a decent smaller phone nowadays.
[General Questions and Answers] DonnieFox:
Thanks for your suggestions. I'd be happy to find a phone for about 200€ (500 is my limit, but it's absolutly not necessary to reach it ;)). But I would prefer to set up the phone once and have it for a longer time instead of buying a new one every two years. It's just the way I prefer it with most things and most time it works well for me.

I'm not really aware about recent developements of custom roms vs stock roms, but I would prefer to have no bloatware and features like privacy guard.

Size could be an issue, I guess, but I hoped for something like the compact models from sony. I'll certainly have to find some compromises.
[General Questions and Answers] Amirk365:
I have it. Love it. No regrets
[General Questions and Answers] juanq214:
Redmi note 8 seems to fulfill what you are looking for.

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Small phones in that price range are extinct. I would recommend a One plus 7 pro, it does all you required except for the size. The last small top of the line phone I can recall is the Xiaomi mi6, but it launched in 2017 and has a Snapdragon 835. If you can live with that go for it, though I doubt you can find a new unit, you'd have to go for a second hand one.
[General Questions and Answers] Archardor:
Honor 20 vs Samsung A70

Hello everyone!

I get to choose between the Honor 20 or Samsung A70 as part of my new contract and im not sure which one to get. Im leaning towards the Honor but I have a few questions to ask and would like a recommendation overall.

What I am looking for? - I like to play old PC games ported to Android. GTA SA, Bully, Excom, Don't Starve, etc. I have bought a reasonable amount of games on the Google play store and would like to continue playing them on the new device.

What I care about in a phone? - Productivity. Fast phone, good specs, CPU, GPU.

What is somewhat important? - Battery. I have an A5 with an Exynos and a 3000mAH so any of the phones will be an upgrade. I am not aware if the Honor or Samsung A70 have any unremovable bloatware that will drain the battery really fast and would like to know if they do have such bloatware. 1 day of general use (messenger, a bit of youtube, 30 mins of gaming) is what I will be happy with. Though the less bloatware, the better.

What I dont care about unless the part is really, really outdated and total trash? - Screen. Cameras. Fingerprint sensor. Pay apps. Wireless charging.

Disclaimer: I would like to try Fortnite on my phone, dont judge me please. Its just the only BR without bots as to my knowledge. I am unaware if the Samsung A70 is supported and would like an update on the matter. Honor 10 is listed as a supported device as far as I know.

What I know about the Samsung A70?

It has a better battery than the Honor 20.

It can use Google play without any problems and I get to keep my games.

It has much slower specs than the Honor 20.

What is bugging me about the A70? - Can I play Fortnite on it?

What I know about the Honor 20?

It has faster specs than the A70.

Battery is smaller.

Google play may not work or something like that, I need clarification because it is a dealbreaker for me. (Im getting the phone from a network provider in Austria so I guesse its the European version if that makes a difference?)

What is bugging me about the Honor 20? - Can I use Google play and keep my collection of games? Is it full of bloatware that drains and kills the battery really fast? I know that the Honor 20 doesnt use clean Android but has some UI on top of it, dont quite understand it. Will it drain the battery, slow the phone?

Disclaimer: I don't want to root, jailbreak etc my devices. Just press the download button from the Play store and be done.

So, guys, any idea if I will have problems with the Honor 20? I would prefer it to the Samsung A70, just not sure with the Play store and the UI. So which one? I can only choose from those 2, by the way.

TLDR: Any drawbacks to Honor 20, will the Google play store work if I get the phone from an Austrian (Europe) network provider? Can Samsung A70 run Fortnite, any drawbacks to Samsung A70. I cannot choose a different phone than those 2.

Thank you for your time and have a happy new year!
[General Questions and Answers] CamoGeko:
[MENTION=10420951]Archardor[/MENTION]

If you only get to exclusively pick between those 2 I would go for the Samsung. :good:

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[General Questions and Answers] flash713:
Get a OnePlus. I just picked up a OnePlus 5 mint for $125. Oxygen is awesome!!! They've come a long way just since the OnePlus 3. Think I'll be sticking with OnePlus from here on out. They make great quality phones and they aren't 1k. :)
[General Questions and Answers] juanq214:
The honor may be better, in terms of hardware and specs, but Samsung is more reliable as a brand. Since you are not willing to root and stuff, go for the Sammy one
[General Questions and Answers] DonnieFox:
Thanks for your suggestions. The MI6 looks good but doing some research I found out, that it does not support LTE with 800 MHz, which is heavily used in germany. So it's no option. The One Plus 7 pro looks good, too, but 6,7” is really much bigger as my old phone and it also lacks a headphone jack. And maybe it's even too good for my purpose, as suggested before. So I tend to look for a second hand one. It will have certainly a larger display than my old one, but I still hope to find one up to 6".
[General Questions and Answers] juanq214:
If you are open to second hand phones, there are better chances to find small phones. Here some models to consider:

LG G6, LG G7, oneplus 5 (only 5.5 inches) or one plus 5T (had one two years ago, one of my favorites ever), Samsung galaxy S8 or S9. Good luck in your search.
[General Questions and Answers] DonnieFox:
Thank you very much. This looks like what I've been looking for. I had a quick look at the oneplus 5 and 5t and both seem fit my requirements very well. I'll do some more research on all this phones.
[General Questions and Answers] 350Rocket:
I'm still using the OnePlus 5 and plan to keep it for a couple more years. I'd be happy if I already had Android 10 but the fact that it's coming at all is nice.
[General Questions and Answers] Raresh T:
Does android 10 brings more battery optimization than android 9 mate?
[General Questions and Answers] mrrocketdog:
ok , just looking for some opinions (and why if not too much trouble).

a galaxy s4 (extSD , removable batt.{and can get 3200 mAh replacement} , can still get kk {my fav.} , easily rootable and still some development for it.

OR

a xperia z5 compact (extSD , stereo speakers , can stay at or below N , a wee bit harder to root. but not much).

either for almost the same price. do not care about camera quality. both are small which i'm looking for.

what think xda fam?
[General Questions and Answers] 350Rocket:
I couldn't tell you for sure, I'm expecting it to be the same. I had a pixel XL for a few months with Android 10 and 9 and it had the same battery life on both versions (much worse than the OnePlus 5). I had the OnePlus 5 on Android 7,8 and now 9, it's always been the same. I can't kill it in a day unless I really try. 6-7 hours screen on time with heavy usage (not gaming).

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I'd go with Sony out of those 2. KitKat was good back in the day but probably not a good daily driver today.
[General Questions and Answers] joshthemajor:
Hello, I'd like to change my mobile during this year or the next one. I don't want to buy a flagship, I'm currently using a Lenovo P2 that I bought used from warehouse deals on amazon for 220€ (perfect condition) 1 year and half ago. So I don't mind even buying used.

The main spec that the phone must have are:

1080p

microsd slot

at least 5000mah battery (love the 9-11 hours SOT)

Unlockable bootloader for custom rom

Would be nice to have but not mandatory:

removable battery

headphone jack
[General Questions and Answers] flahlesslySpam:
Hello, I would like to upgrade my Samsung Galaxy S5 to a phone that meets the following criteria:

Works with Verizon in the USA

under $150, willing to buy either used or new

has good ROM support (such as the Nexus 5x from this post https://xdaforums.com/general/help/how-developers-decide-devices-to-support-t4030503)

My gripe with my current phone is that it is feels too slow at times (lags while browsing Reddit on Chrome), battery life being so short (doesn't last more than a day), and my phone not receiving any software updates. I don't require very powerful hardware; my main activities are listening to music, using Chrome, using GPS, calling , and texting.

My main concern is software updates. I can deal with short battery by buying a portable charger and having the Reddit website lag on me does get frequently annoying which I can just deal with but not having any software updates does worry me. I would also like to use this phone as my main phone for as long as possible which is why I would like good ROM support. I do understand that $150 is on the cheap side but so I am willing spend more if I have to but I would like to stay as low as possible.
[General Questions and Answers] hozumi70:
Hello! I'm thinking of buying a UMDIGI X and POWER 3 phone. Which one would be better? Root option desired!