yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Thjalfi:
Since I can understand that the Lenovo people and the remaining TPT users don't like trash talk about their device on their forum, I have also moved here.

I can only support the opinion that the TPT and GN10.1 are like night and day. Putting them next to each other makes the TPT look even worse, the GN10.1 is about 30 to 40% thinner, about 175 grams lighter (that is a lot, finally I can comfortably hold my tablet when reading on it) and the screen shows proper whites compared to the TPT's yellowy screen (I only noticed that when I put them directly next to each other). The TPT is just clunky, granted, that might make it more robust, but I have never dropped mine, so that is no advantage for me.

The differences in the usability have already been mentioned here so there is no need to repeat them.

Of course, the GN10.1 is not without fault either:

- The first thing I noticed was the smaller and lighter pen, but I am getting a larger replacement for that. Also the pen is not at all symmetrical like the TPT's, so there is really only one orientation to put it in, but for me this will also mediated by a pen that I carry around externally.

- The built-in keyboard is no fun to type with. I keep hitting the wrong buttons and the word prediction isn't really helping, but I remember that I was also frustrated with the TPT in this respect and it was getting better till the end, so maybe it will improve with GN10.1 as well. Unless there is a very good replacement keyboard out there that I should use?

- The Exchange Mail App is very slow to the point of being non-reactive for 10s of seconds sometimes. Since I use this tablet for business this is bad, but I guess I have to live with it. I remember the TPT's Exchange app in the beginning had no search function and could only sync mail from the last month, ridiculous!

- I have had the Chrome browser stop occasionally, but that is not necessarily Samsung's fault. Chrome was virtually unusable on the TPT with all pages constantly going blank.

So, that's about it. If you are thinking about switching, an extra 500$ sounds a lot, but if you manage to sell the TPT for 200 to 300$, that lessens the blow. Really, this here is the product that Lenovo should have released in the first place, it's not magic. A dual-core CPU should be fast enough for what the TPT wants to do, I mean look at the Nexus 7. Why did we have to be beta testers for Lenovo... for money!?

I'll go play a bit of Crayon Physics to calm down, see ya'round.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
Nexus 7 is tegra3 quad core(really 5 cores). Software is flawless on it. Running latest JB. As far as speed and stability, even power, Nexus 7 and Note 10.1 are the best on the market right now.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Thjalfi:
You're right, I don't know why I thought the Nexus 7 was a dual-core (I think I had read it somewhere). I still think it's not only the CPU's fault why the TPT is so slow.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Agreed. Don't know what they did to the TPT - at least the early ones - but there are a lot of issues there.

---------- Post added at 02:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:30 AM ----------

BTW, good to see you here. If it wasn't for all the raves and cheers about the device, I might think this was a ThinkPad Tablet forum. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] splotz:
Do you have also problems in LectureNotes and non-Vector apps with jagged lines?

Does the pen Button already work in one of the note taking apps as an eraser ?

Did someone already find a media dock where you are able to connect HDMI, USB, Audio and Charger at the same time?

Jagged Lines:

LectureNotes + Quill comparison:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=30497386&postcount=2

LectureNotes Workaround. Is it a good solution?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=31629110&postcount=13
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Thjalfi:
I use Quill (to my knowledge it's the only app that exports PDFs as vector graphics) and I have the impression that sometimes the writing is a bit more jagged than with the TPT. But definitely not as bad as in the links you posted and the better overall pen detection makes the writing more readable in the end.

In Quill the button on the S-Pen does not yet work, but I think this is just a matter of time.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Has anyone rooted their note yet, from the Lenovo crew? If so, which method did you use and which model do you have?

I want to root, but for some reason I feel a bit intimidated. I would use method two, but don't really fully understand the process.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] twospirits:
I have.

I used zedomax's excellent instructions for the Method 1. Pretty easy and simple.

TS
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Thanks. I want to use #2, since'it seems to be the most worry-free method. Guess I'll just take the plunge.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mrgerlo:
Hey hey, im joining the ranks here!! got mine today from best buy canada, doing all the software installations and going to be working on Lecture Notes for a while....so far so good fellas!!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] wolfindersteppe:
Lovely greeting to the ex-TPT gang here::D. Being burned by Lenovo ignorance, feeling myself like in heaven wit GNote 10.1.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Congrats, and enjoy! :good:

---------- Post added at 02:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:53 PM ----------

Hey, good to see you! And, +1 on heaven with the GNnote.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jchammerpants:
Wilkommen bei GNote!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jchammerpants:
Lenovo says they are upgrading me to a TPT2...

I am probably jinxing myself by posting this, but it looks like I'll be able to provide feedback on the TPT2 soon.

My TPT has been in for warranty service for the third time in less than a year since August, and a month ago I was promised a brand new TPT instead of a repair because they couldn't get the replacement part. I called yesterday for an update, and the rep just returned my call to say that they are unable to source the TPT parts to build a brand new unit since new orders have been discontinued.

So, although I am still in shock, I am relaying that they offered to upgrade me to the TPT2 with Windows 8 instead.

She asked if that would be OK. Umm... YES!

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this does not get cancelled higher up the customer service food chain. She said they hope to be able to place an order for it on 10/15, and then it could be a few weeks. I said I will GLADLY wait, EXCITEDLY wait, for the offer of swapping my TPT for a TPT2.

I'll post more more when I know it. After many years of great Thinkpad performance and service, the TPT was a let-down. If I do receive a TPT2 in its place, Lenovo may have well regained my loyalty. Which is not to say I'll ditch my GNote, because I am very skeptical as to whether Windows 8 can be as snappy and responsive as it is. On the other hand if the inking and OneNote experience is solid on the WIndows 8...

Anyways, just sharing this unexpectedly great customer service story from Lenovo with the old TPT gang.

JC
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] splotz:
Happy beta testing ;)

ed.: (I took the other pill)

But have fun, new toys are always nice!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
While I am excited for you, the ideal CS story would be that the TPT worked out of the box and never needed repair. l was loyal to IBM, had never heard of Lenovo, and even if they give me a free win 8 tab cannot regain my business.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] optimus43:
any luck getting myscript to work

did you have anyluck getting myscript stylus to work? I pulled it off my tpt (along with Notes Mobile) but neither work
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ruckuss:
I used to have a TPT also, Notes Mobile was OK... if someone can get it working on the Gnote10.1, please pass it along :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
I tried without success. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] optimus43:
Notes mobile

still cant get it to work but as it turns out the spen input on the samsung keyboard is as good as myscript stylus (I think I read that it was also made by vison objects) so I am not missing myscript stylus even though I paid for it so a working copy would be nice.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jsutton241:
I've played with the ThinkPad in stores and I've would have never bought that brick. It was slow and laggy at the store with nothing on the memory. No thank you
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
It actually had the potential to be an amazing device. Poor internals and software killed that potential, along with poor follow-up by Lenovo. If mine worked properly initially I would never have gone looking for the Note. It was that good.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ruckuss:
I agree.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
Never used a thinkpad so no opinions about it but yes for Lennovo tablets is not their core and I do not know how serious they are with its future and hence a little bit worried about software updates and customization
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] hoss_n2:
S2110 isn't normal dualcore, it is s4 dualcore a15 class processor so it should perform same as normal quadcore cortex a9 processors
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rand33099:
I am totaly impressed with the speed and no lag with this thing
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] splotz:
Can you use with the S2110 also Android apps or Windows7 prgs?

Or only Metro apps?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rand33099:
Its android 4.03 so all app store apps work from google play.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] splotz:
Oh, sorry, my mistake.

I thought it would be already one of the new ones with Windows on ARM.

But still some time to wait I think.

Anyway, thank you for your answer.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ultra99:
Wow, all that hatred for the TPT? I was on the verge to buy one..... until this thread...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] splotz:
There are also people who are satisfied with it.

If you can get a cheap used one to try it out if the important things are working for you an you could also return it, maybe you would be one of them.

But if its not for the connectors and the case, the Note 10.1 seems to be better...

I did not buy hte note 10.1, because I can not connect all the things I need at once and afaik there is no docking station to make this possible, or will ever be ...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Read this forum before you do.

http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-slate-tablets/bd-p/Thinkpad_slate

You'll find power button issues, microUSB issues, non working GPS, and other similar things. Your money is better spent on the GNote.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] splotz:
As for me, I had only pen and display issues.

(Button fine, usb fine, gps fine , 3g fine)

But this got not solved for me so, I couldnt use it.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akhil17kr:
hello guys,

i havcouple of questiosn dat

(1) how is performance of galaxy s2 i9100g as compared to i9100 model ???

if its really very bad ,slow n laggy as compared to i9100 model ??

actually i m in search of 2nd hand i9100 model but serached a lot n waitin for about 1.5 months but still not able to find people who have i9100 model around me and my area...

most of dem has i9100g model

but its really bad performer n problems such as hanging , lags is common dats why i dropped my idea to buy i9100g model

but i m confused dat

(2)if it is really bad as compare to other dual core mobiles of other brands such as htc and sony ??? like xperia sola , xperia p etc.

my personal need is specially dat fone has enuf android development so dat in future i can tweak and customize my fone according to my need..

(3) well how i9100g model performance in custom or stock ics roms ????

is it enuf good for daily driver for hardcore use with good battery life...????

(4) if it will get official jb rom by samsung ???

(5) is it better den other single core android fones ? such as xperia arc s ??

arc s has 1.4 gh snapdragon processor n 512mb ram ??

(6) how much free and total ram is available in i9100g with custom ics rom and jb rom ??

(7) im getting 2nd hand i9100g model for about 19000-20000k = $350

need ur advices guys..

hope not bothering u..

thx in advance.. :)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Product F(RED):
If you're looking to game on it, you will notice a big performance difference for high-end games. Also, ROMs are not compatible. They both have CM10 and CM9 nightlies, and they both look the same, but to me they're two completely different phones.

You're getting ripped off. You can get a mint i9100 for that much. If anything, try looking for the i777. It is an i9100T (i9100 with NFC) and it's the AT&T model. The only difference is it has a 4-button layout instead of the big clicky button in the middle. i9100 ROMs work on it too, you just need to flash a button fix because the button layout is different.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akhil17kr:
bro i don't play high end games but i play normal games not like dat has size more den 300mb

and i m from india

so dere is no i777 model but i can get it but it will not have official samsung warranty...

and its really true dat evry i9100 roms work on i777 model with button fix ???????

can u give me link where i can find dis ??
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akhil17kr:
hey anybody plz answers dis..

its urgent n i have to make decesion..

i dont play high end games

jus use for playing full hd videos , for music collection coz i love music , hard internet browsing , clicking pics editing , heavy multitasking , n normal games not too much heavy like of 1 gb type.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Product F(RED):
You'll be fine with the i9100G then.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akhil17kr:
but wen i use my frnds g version

it feels so slow n sluggish...even running b/w homescreens takes time n mutitasking is kindah hell

its on stock ics 4.03 rom with less den 13 apps installed...

dats why i m confused about dis ...

any strong compeditor at same price wid gud android development other den lg n moto brand
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akhil17kr:
any 1 guide plz...

hows i9100g as compared to xperia sola , p, or galaxy s advance , atrix 2 or galaxy nexus in terms of hardware n software ???
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Product F(RED):
Galaxy S Advance is more powerful; it has the Galaxy S II i9100 CPU/GPU (Exynos Dual + Mali-400 GPU). Camera might be better on the i9100G (since it has the same camera as i9100). Galaxy Nexus with Jelly Bean is also very smooth but it has a terrible, terrible camera and only 16GB (11GB usable) of storage.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akhil17kr:
galaxy s advance has not same cpu but has same gpu.but single core which is not gud den mali-400 gpu of i9100...

just simple.ques.. which is better alternative to i9100 wid gud developer support like i9100 n has not prblm of bootlocker unlocking

..locking...bla bla..????
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Product F(RED):
No, it's actually a dual-core. But in terms of support and easiest bootloader unlocking, you can't beat a Nexus. So if you can look past the camera and you don't need more than 11GB of storage, the Galaxy Nexus is your best choice.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akhil17kr:
hmm thx.. i knw

m frm india n in india samsung didn't launch galaxy nexus...

i knw in google play officialy it costs $350 n it exactly fits in my budget....but hw can i get it in india ???

dats why.dropped dis idea...

any other sony htc dual core fone having gud developer support ??

or just tell hws i9100G version as compared to other dual cores in terms of smoothness n hardware rather den comparing to i9100 version...

lev i9100 aside n tell if i9100g is worth buying as compared to ither dual core droids ???
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akhil17kr:
k'moon experts guide me...plz...m in hurry hv 2 make decisoon asap
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akhil17kr:
*help *

answer plz..
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonlee1603:
I believe there is not much difference between the I9100 and the I9100G if you are not intending to play intensive games on the phone. Just my opinion though.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilometers4:
And development for the G model is less than the international model.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Product F(RED):
Both these are true. Although development has picked up with CM9 (ICS) and CM10 (Jellybean).

Between the Galaxy Nexus and the i9100G, you're basically only looking at the camera. The one on the Galaxy Nexus is known to be beyond horrible while the one on all the Galaxy S II variants is amazing (both I know from experience). If you need expandable storage, go for the i9100G but if you want a TON of ROMs and updates first from Google, go for the Galaxy Nexus.
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mnachazel:
Okay, first thing to mention is that I have searched for information on my issue and while I have found (and tried) solutions that approach my goof, I need to post this:

Last night I finished reading from Kindle app, hit the power button to shut off the screen and laid it down. I know I should have plugged it to recharge but too late now. I am running CM nightly from 07172012, so I know I didn't download the nightly CM battery issue versions.

This morning the screen will not light up; I have tried charging it, hard reset with power and home screen buttons for 15-20 seconds (and longer), and nothing works. My concern is that the screen is dead. I connected the touchpad to my laptop and I get the connection sound from the laptop; it sees the TP but does not accept it as a portable storage device. Device Manager lists it as: QHSUSB_DLOAD with driver(s) not loaded.

When I try the volume rocker button I do not hear the small audible ping as volume goes up or down. Of course, with the resets, who knows where I am in the OS (or even if it is WebOS or Android).

I really didn't want to be a noob and post this, but I need some advice from the brethren here on XDA. Thanks in advance.
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nh5:
It seems to me that it's not even booting if your getting that strange device in device manager. Try the webos recovery tool from hp. It may help. Although it will wipe android off.
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pworcester:
my son-in-law is in the same boat. Nothing he does wakes it up. I believe there are tp's out there with this hardware issue. I let my tp battery drain completely. It powers down around 4% battery. I place it on the touchstone, it charges backup and boots into moboot, then webos. I've done this twice. no problems. If it's under warranty still, send it in.
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sstar:
If you have a touchstone charger put it on that and leave it for a couple of hours and it Will come back to life.

See this article by Reverend Kyle http://www.reverendkyle.com/index.php/articles/146-hp-touchpad-charging-issues-solution

I hope this helps.
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pilotbob3:
I've had multiple instances of black screen of death failure.

The latest one I had, I was able to restore by using a standard USB to micro USB cable (and recently NOT the HP OEM cable) to connect to the computer I usually use to sync or use HP web doctor with.

Same symtpom as the OP, get the three dings when connecting the touchpad to the computer, no responses and the QHUSB driver load error. HP charger wouldn't chage it, touchstone would not charge it.

Anyhow, I left it connected for a few hours to charge connected to my PC. Then, I disconnected from the PC using the large USB connector and reconnected. Whamo, got to the bootloader.

I believe what happened was I trickle charged the touchpad enough to get the touchpad to boot.

You can try the various hard boot keypresses too, but wait for a few hours while trying to trickle charge the touchpad via the computer USB.
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mnachazel:
Update

Okay, so I followed the old rule of doing the simple (and/or free) solutions first and then move on.

1) I set the touchpad on the touchstone for several hours yesterday - no luck

2) I connected the touchpad to my pc through the USB and let it charge - no luck

3) I let it be plugged into the standard charging plug all night - no luck

4) I prayed to the great old god Cthulhu - no luck

My only option remaining is to use WebOS Doctor. One question on that: in all the literature I have read thus far (and perhaps I am mistaken), I need to be able to get the TP into USB mode to download the corrections/reboot back into WebOS. Is that right or can I expect that when the doctor sees the mangled mess of an OS through the USB connection, it will know what to do?

Again, as always that for the previous posts and for the support.
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobtidey:
Another piece of black magic that worked for me and is worth a try as it is free. Connect Touchpad to standard HP brick charger plugged into power outlet. Unplug cable from charger, count to 5, plug it back in, count to 5, take it back out. Repeat the cycle until you get bored or until you get a red charging symbol. If you get the latter then let it charge up normally and you are back in business. The theory behind this method is that it takes a few seconds on plugging in for the circuits to realise they "shouldn't be charging" and this allows a little bit of charging to take place on each insertion. Repeat enough times and you get enough to kick start the proper charging. In my case about 20 times did the trick.

As I didn't want to get into this situation again I then set up a Tasker process to power down th eTouchpad if the battey charge dropped below 8% and I've been OK since.
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mnachazel:
RIP Touchpad / EOT

Well, I had to wait a day to get my hands on a WinXP laptop; I upgraded my Dell to Win8 about 3 months ago and WebOS Doctor does not play well with Win8.

While that time passed, the touchpad finally gave up the ghost. There is no power left in the TP. When I run WebOS Doc the laptop cannot see the TP connecting via USB. I also checked by connecting the TB to the Dell, since it would at least see the device. Not any more.

My thanks again to those that responded. I did try the plug in, plug out with 5 second waits between, just in case. You never know. However, after 50+ attempts I had to call it a no-go.
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haxin:
does your home button light come on at all? Are you able to see moboot bootloader at all or are you able to start the tablet in webos recovery mode by holding the vol key while powering it on? are you able to ./adb connect? Also I've never had much luck with the resest method youre using, holding down the power and home key, I always hold down the power key and press the home key 15 times, when I get hard freezes and lockups, it's always worked.
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paddyponchero:
Mine is in the same boat for a couple of months, removed battery and charged. Boot loader is borked I get only get a qualcomm usb device but nothing thats of any use for webos doctor or qualcomm tools. We'll have to wait until someone figures out jtag or how to replace the bootloader with qualcomm tools. I'm amazed with the number of touchpads out there that something hasn't leaked from hp to fix it. Anyone got friend in hp or qualcomm :angel: