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[General Questions and Answers] pathedits:
Ops... If that's the case, I'll have it replaced as quickly as possible.
[General Questions and Answers] ramandeepsingh01:
Right, people are even buying Tecno and Infinix devices these days with Mediatek chipsets. They are performing well enough.
[General Questions and Answers] fonzacus:
ey guys, please be gentle senpai

id like to buy a USED android phone that is supported by at least ubports (UB, i cant find much info regarding kai, sailfish ETC. postmarket (PM) seems way too above my pay grade). the main reason why i want a used phone, is so i can copy the manual building steps, and hopefully recreate it on my current (1 and only) phone. breaking a used phone wouldnt burn me as much.

what im looking for has to have at least;

- android based (IDC min|max OS)

- USB OTG (prolly any phone post A6 right?)

- mainstream supported device (easy to find firmware+recovery)

- with related subforums here

i did fail building UB and PM last year. recovering from PM sent me to a panic as i needed to send it to an official xiaomi store abroad...
[General Questions and Answers] mobnoob:
Some people don't really know what they want also they ask too many things from a phone.

I'm still using a Lenovo P2 with Android 6, I never rooted it because there is no reason to do it.

People want the latest BETA Android because they over stress about security BUT then they complain that some phones have the boot locked by factory which is done for security reasons.

Every ROM will always have an issue so there is nothing 100% perfect.

But if they want to play with technology, that is OK for some people to swap ROM, for other people, phone are OK from factory.
[General Questions and Answers] Applepear:
I would suggest Redmi note 4
[General Questions and Answers] cadenabaldovin:
Hi everyone I recently acquired an Oppo Reno 4 pro 5g but seeing the Realme GT 5G and the Poco F3 (and GT version) I'm having doubts if I should give it back and buy the Realme since it has better screen and better processor. I'm a student and I want my phone to help me with my studies and future work once I graduate. I am not a gamer but might be interested in playing PS2 and Gamecube ROMs in my phone in the future. Therefore, which device do you recommend and could you give me your reasons for you recommendation ? I would really appreaciate your help.
[General Questions and Answers] mobnoob:
The first thing I look at when I buy a new phone is the battery size.

You can have a beautiful and powerful phone but it can become an electronic brick when during the day the battery had enough and the phone switches off.

With modern powerful phones you need a battery with at least 6000mAh which allow you to use the phone for 2 days without recharging it.

Bare in mind that if you recharge the battery everyday, after 2-3 year of use it will loose 30-40 of its original capacity.

What is your budget? When buying phones you have to compare prices because every country or online store have different stock and prices.

Among the phones you suggested the POCO F3 GT has the biggest battery, I would start looking at it in the forums or even in GSMArena
[General Questions and Answers] blackhawk:
Welcome to XDA 🤗

Keep an eye on it and the reports about issues with that model.

The issues may only be on a couple production runs but not all.

Samsung not saying word though which doesn't help their cause.
[General Questions and Answers] Fytdyh:
the advice my fellow xda member @mobnoob has given is sound, but there is also an alternative. nowadays any mid-range phone packs enough processing power to handle everything except big games. emulators aren't that punishing on a mid range cpu, so those are working on a mid range smartphone. what you could do is investing about 180€ in a mid range smartphone. this one will fulfill every need you have for 2 years. afterwards, your choice : keep using that or buy another 180€ phone. it can be cheaper since you can sell the first one. my recommendation would be xiaomi. they fill their smartphones with ads, in order to lower the price. those ads can be disabled fast, a couple of minutes at most. they have the best bang for your buck.
[General Questions and Answers] mobnoob:
I just ordered a POCO (Xiaomi) M3 firstly for its 6000mAh battery but also I get a lot of value for the budget price.

Another selling point for Chinese phones is that you go to Aliexpress and you can buy batteries and screens, you don't deal with an arrogant monopolistic Apple which put codes on the boards that must match with replacing part.

i do quite a lot with the phone, Google Maps, gaming, photo editing, office applications and so on with a Lenovo P2 which is 3 times (Antutu test) slower than the POCO M3 so I guess I will be fine with my new toy :)
[General Questions and Answers] fonzacus:
i dont see the redmi note 4 listed under ubports, but i did see the ubports thread on their subforum, it seems dormant.

under the listed supported device, which would be the toughest to break, both soft and hardware?
[General Questions and Answers] foncall:
Not sure whether to ask here or start a new thread. I just got notified by AT&T that my Moto G4 Play won't work on the AT&T network soon (Jan-Feb 22 timeframe, IIRC). As you can tell, it's been a while since I've looked at phones, so I'm at a loss. My current phone is my second Moto G (first a 3 then a 4 Play), and both were recommended here on XDA (again, IIRC). Anyway, rather than just go to the current Moto G, which is a whopping 6.8", I thought I'd see if there is something out there closer to 5". It will definately need 5G capability to be compatible with AT&T next year, and I might as well buy the latest/best processor I can now so I don't have to do this again for a few years. Thanks in advance for your suggestions (including whether this question should go in its own thread). Foncall
[General Questions and Answers] Lycidias:
Hello,

I am currently using OnePlus 8 Pro. But I am very disappointed because of the lack of TWRP an therefore development.

I'm about to sell my OnePlus and ditch it for a developer friendly phone.

So the question is: Are there any flagships with full/good TWRP support?

Only thing I need besides that is wireless charging and a nice camera and a good CPU.

Thank you!
[General Questions and Answers] Applepear:
Well another suggestion, according to ubports, redmi note 7 is one of most supported device it has Snapdragon so flashing isn't risky as mediatek, if you talk about hardware, then I can't say anything, haven't had any of above.
[General Questions and Answers] mobnoob:
Firstly it's not easy to read your post so you should learn basic formatting.

Regarding 5G it's a BS marketing practice to attract uneducated buyers.

America kicked China's Huawei 4G (ready to use) out of the country so how they pretend to operate 5G technology that is still under development??

And with AT&T and their monopolistic practices it's not easy to buy a phone out of their business, they intentionally set "restricted" network frequencies so people must buy their overpriced phones and plans.

I suggest you look at another more friendly carrier, check AT&T's prices of phone and plan and compare with another carrier plan but with a phone you buy elsewhere.

AT&T supports their devices no more than 4 years so then you have to buy another phone.

But if you really want to mess with AT&T, I suggest you only care about their 4G network frequencies: AT&T 4G

At GSMArena you can search for the phone of your dreams, here I already set AT&T's 4G network frequencies and a phone with a 5" screen, once there you can "refine" your search and chose what ever you like: GSMArena search result
[General Questions and Answers] foncall:
Sorry if my post wasn't clear, but your post was just what I needed. Used the search tool and it looks like the perfect phone for me is the Samsung Galaxy Xcover FieldPro. Thanks much!
[General Questions and Answers] mobnoob:
I'm glad that you found the phone you like.

Be ware that there are two different variants for that phone so check carefully the network bands.

The operative system (Android 8) is a bit outdated but it doesn't matter, I'm still using Android 6 and I never had any issue because I never unlocked the factory boot loader.
[General Questions and Answers] Lycidias:
No developments friendly flagships available? 😅
[General Questions and Answers] Fytdyh:
Mate, there are a lot of flagship. you are asking us to search each thread of each flagship to see which has development. this is a easy task. why wait for someone else to do it?

You want a flagship with active development? well Samsung S6 was a flagship and it has active development.
[General Questions and Answers] ramandeepsingh01:
Do not go for these devices only because of the better display. I agree that Realme X7 Max or Poco F3 GT which has Dimensity 1200 chipset may sound better, but as a student, think of your needs with the specifications.
[General Questions and Answers] LR7875:
Install a custom ROM on the Xiaomi.

If you don't know how to, you can ask further.

If you know, make sure to disable android vertified boot for a custom ROM to work which you can also ask further.
[General Questions and Answers] Ankitatech:
I suggest iPhone 12.
[General Questions and Answers] Lpoolm:
Hi could someone give me some ideas please.

Just got a realme 8 5g but I don't love it. I really need the following,

Better screen, something similar to Samsung. Better camera.

Still 5g, 6gb ram and the biggy a front led notification light?

Any pointers please
[General Questions and Answers] Fytdyh:
Samsung is overrated. check xiaomi note 10 pro
[General Questions and Answers] mobnoob:
I understand you're looking for the best value for the money phone and Realme isn't the one.

I also suggest Xiaomi, decide what is your budget, go to GSMArena and compare the various models.

I would look at the battery sizes first, it doesn't make any sense to have a powerful phone when the battery doesn't even last half day!
[General Questions and Answers] ramandeepsingh01:
That's true but if you check most of the decent phones like Nord 2 and Oppo Reno 6 Pro, most of them have less battery with good charging support and this makes them a good option. Also, since the Mediatek chipset in 6nm in them, the battery drain is also less.
[General Questions and Answers] mobnoob:
You can talk about number as long as you like but the fact is that most modern phones' battery only last half day.

I have a beautiful Pixel 2 XL that is somewhere in a tray and I don't use it because it's useless, the battery doesn't last half day and I don't want to carry a power bank.

With modern phones you need at least a 5000mAh battery, for me I bought a phone with a 6000mAh battery.
[General Questions and Answers] Fytdyh:
@Lpoolm, battery size sure is an important aspect. you need enough battery juice to get through the day. now I don't have a large battery, 4500 mah. if you arent planning on gaming on a 4g connection, you will get to the end of the day with battery to spare. while 5000 or 6000 are nice, they aren't that necessary nowadays. Stock roms are very well optimized.
[General Questions and Answers] mobnoob:
Google Maps and GPS or WI-FI always ON will kill a 4500mAh battery in half day on a modern phone with big high resolution screen and a powerful processor, this is a fact, people don't only do gaming.
[General Questions and Answers] Shadowthor:
It also depends on what services/apps you have running in the background.

Once 5G rolls out a bit more, hopefully they are able to optimize the battery usage of maintaining the 5G signal.
[General Questions and Answers] danimihalca:
Hi guys. I'm looking to buy a secondary Android phone in the budget category (entry or mid level), will use very few apps on it and not so often. I'm mostly interested to have root access on it and have a relatively long term support update-wise (be it officially, or through custom vanilla ROMs).

Any suggestions?

Been looking at the Nokia phones since they've started to become very popular, but don't know really what's ok on the market now.

Thanks!
[General Questions and Answers] therobbot:
Hi everybody,

I still used a Moto G LTE (peregrine) with stock firmware until recently and was planning to migrate to LineageOS soon. But now the phone stopped working and I need a "new" one.

I don't play games but I want a smooth experience with day-to-day use (browsing, messaging, app switching, navigation, music). The Moto G had become quite slow in that regard in the last year or so.

I'd also like a small device. The size of the Moto G was perfect for me. A little bigger might still be ok but I wouldn't need it.

I'd prefer to buy a used device that still has good support, either on stock ROM or by LineageOS. I'd rather not pay more than 200€ for it.

Do you have any suggestions for me? I was looking into the Sony XZ compact line but it seems that they have lots of hardware problems (broken microphones, ghost touch, ...) and working devices still seem to cost more than 300€.

Thanks a lot in advance.

Tobias
[General Questions and Answers] Fytdyh:
well, with under 3 gb of ram you might be in trouble. I would suggest the Samsung s7
[General Questions and Answers] mobnoob:
Try to reset the Moto G to factory settings and that would fix your problem.

Also I feel like you're not clear on what you want, I suggest you leave the phone with the factory ROM, if you don't want troubles.

Also you want the best bank for the buck phone so I suggest you to leave these overpriced brands like Samsung, Sony, LG etc. etc. and look for Motorola, Xiaomi or POCO brands.
[General Questions and Answers] ColineJ:
Hello,

I'm looking for a new smartphone to install LineageOS on. I need something reliable and easy to use (the installation of LineageOS could be a pain in the ass on some models).

I don't need something new, I don't do many things with my phone. I don't need a good camera or lot of space (16Go is enough, but more is okay, of course).

What do you think about the following models : Pixel 1 or 2, Xperia XA2 or Motorola G7 or G7 plus ? Do you know others models under 200$ with a great compatibility with LineageOS ?

I was interested about FairPhones too, but they are quite expensive.

Thank you a lot ! :)
[General Questions and Answers] therobbot:
The specs of the S7 look good, indeed. But the last stock ROM is Android 8 and it is no longer supported with LineageOS builds, right? How long could I sensibly use this then?
[General Questions and Answers] therobbot:
No, the Moto G is gone for good. It has a serious hardware defect and I don't want to spend money to repair it anymore. Also the factory ROM wouldn't do since there are more and more apps that won't run on android 5 anymore.

Why do you think I didn't specify what I need? I want a reliable and long-lasting phone for day-to-day use. I'd like to have long software support, either with stock ROM or with an alternative ROM. No need for gaming. I don't need a good camera. And I want a compact phone. Can you suggest compact phones from Motorola, Xiaomi or POCO?
[General Questions and Answers] ColineJ:
I used a S7 (I broke it) and got some minor problems with the unofficial ROM, but it was really usable. You can look at /e/OS, I think they use LineageOS + S7.
[General Questions and Answers] sasbot:
In the market for a new phone, fed up with not having root on a J3 (thanks verizon :poop:).

What are some good options if my requirements are the following:

* unlocked bootloader

* headphone jack

* user replaceable battery

* device GPS reliable​

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other criteria I am flexible on are:

* not much bigger than 5.5" (going to be carrying phone at work in pocket, around stuff that can easily wreck screens). I am going to get a phone case no matter what, so a smaller phone size to start with is better​

* wireless charging option preferred​

* 5g​

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For everything else, I would prioritize processor/memory/storage over secondary features. Cameras and fingerprint sensors etc are low priority.

Sound quality and screen resolution are nice, but low priority. Not going to be using phone to watch movies. Currently on Verizon, but ready to abandon them in a heartbeat if needed.

My last rooted phone was an S4. I'm ready for another shiny new tool to play around with but bumbling around amazon/newegg/etc/etc looking at reviews and specs never seems to tell me what I need to know ~ headphone jack is seldom included as a criteria for filtering search results, and rootability as a filter is a unicorn. It seems like the Pixel 4a is a solid choice but what else should I be considering?
[General Questions and Answers] mobnoob:
Firstly you need to tell what country you're from, what carrier you use and if you want a global phone.

You may choose a phone but it might have different network compatibility variants to suit different countries, also what vendor you will buy it from?

What do you mean for compact, you need to tell sizes.
[General Questions and Answers] mobnoob:
Regarding the unlocked bootloader it mostly depends on where do you buy the phone.

You also need to check your country's network bands and check they must match with the phone version, often they call it "global" version but you still need to check compatibility.

Regarding GPS reliability no one can tell unless you pick a specific phone and start digging forums and read sad stories from other people.

Here you can see some phones and you can refine the search result, bare in mind you should check the phone's network capability (from the vendor web site) that must match with your country or globally, depending on your needs: GSMArena phone finder
[General Questions and Answers] Fytdyh:
Well, you could see if Samsung galaxy note 4 is available. seems solid, checks up battery removable and headphone jack. you can always get a case with a wireless dongle. or fit a wireless dongle in a case.
[General Questions and Answers] therobbot:
I’m from Germany. The phone should work at least in Europe. Size should be less than 150 cm in heights. Better would be less than 145
[General Questions and Answers] Shadowthor:
It's going to be hard to find a battery that is easily replaceable nowadays. You will most likely look at older phones but that won't give you 5G capability.

If you can overlook the need to have the user replaceable battery, you will have a few more options. The motorola edge s has the ability to unlock the bootloader has a headphone jack, 5G capability and has a decent hardware (Snapdragon 870) for the price.

Galaxy A52 5G is another option, just not sure about its able to unlock the bootloader, you would have to check on that. It checks the boxes of the headphone jack, 5G, GPS.
[General Questions and Answers] Feenix0:
I'm looking for a mid- to high-range phone with an unlocked/unlockable bootloader. I'd like something with 6 to 8 GB RAM, 64 to 128 GB internal storage, and hardware that works reliably. It must work on AT&T's network once they've completed their 3G sunset. My current and previous phones were Samsung Galaxy S-series, so I've become accustomed to good quality hardware, but I'm done trying to work around Samsung's draconian lockdown measures.
[General Questions and Answers] Shadowthor:
Poco m3 pro 5g , Xiaomi 11 lite 5g, Upcoming motorola edge 20 might also fit what you need.
[General Questions and Answers] Feenix0:
So I found this list of AT&T-compatible phones:

https://www.att.com/idpassets/images/support/wireless/Devices-Working-on-ATT-Network.pdf

No Xiaomi or Poco models listed at all.... :rolleyes: but there are some Motorolas.
[General Questions and Answers] Feenix0:
I found a lot of good things about OnePlus, so I've gone ahead and ordered a refurbished 6T from Amazon.
[General Questions and Answers] Shadowthor:
You need to check what bands AT&T has, if the phone you get has the same bands it will work. The list you provided are phones that are sold in the US that AT&T has tested. If the phone isn't on that list it doesn't mean it won't work, it just hasn't been tested by AT&T.

Since you are looking at Oneplus. The oneplus 8t has dropped in price a bit as well as the launch of the Nord models.
[General Questions and Answers] Feenix0:
The 6T still has a headphone jack!

Best I can tell, my S7 connects to all the AT&T bands, but for some reason isn't capable of HD Voice.
[General Questions and Answers] Shadowthor:
I'm not entirely sure about AT&T HD Voice compatibility, but did find this from At&T website, maybe you could give that a shot to make sure you have all the requirements.

Get Higher Voice Quality With AT&T HD Voice

Enjoy crystal-clear conversations and reduced background noise with AT&T HD Voice on our network.

www.att.com
[General Questions and Answers] Feenix0:
Today I confirmed that my S7 won't work. I installed "Network Mode Universal" by JunHyung Lee, which can check both voice and data network type. Both showed "LTE" until I made a test phone call, at which point Voice showed "UMTS" and Data showed "HSUPA". Sooo, unless I'm content to use a phone on which I can't make actual phone calls, I've got to replace it. 😫
[General Questions and Answers] Shadowthor:
Well, it looks like you have your answer. Seems like you are going to have to replace it. Did the oneplus 6T work out?
[General Questions and Answers] Feenix0:
It should arrive tomorrow.
[General Questions and Answers] Feenix0:
Sadly, no. The USB port on the one I got is shot, and there's actually no headphone jack. I'm going to return it and probably get a 7T instead.
[General Questions and Answers] Shadowthor:
Well, hopefully that works.
[General Questions and Answers] Andi17:
Hello guys,

For Sure you can helo me with my phone question :).

Currently i have an S8 an the display is broken and it don't get Updates anymore.

Now i'm looking for a new phone until about 500€ and in the Moment i Think the best choose looks like a oneplus 8T, 8 or Nord 2 :) (second Hand about 320€)

Important for me is a good Camera quality and that i can easily Flash a Custom ROM after "out of support" by producer.

Can anyone give me a advice

Thanks in advance
[General Questions and Answers] Shadowthor:
I would look into getting the Oneplus 8T.

You can also look at Motorola selections as they have an easy process to unlock bootloader once support is done. I believe the Motorola Edge 20 Pro and fusion are coming out.
[General Questions and Answers] natronordie:
Hello,

I am looking for an Android phone that can record calls and/or will work with my previously paid "Automatic Call Recorder" application.

From what I understand, the functionality has been restricted in later versions of android os?

I am hoping maybe an international device or root access (of which I have no experience with.) in my current device would make it possible to continue using this functionality?

Must have:

1st or 3rd party functionality to automatically record phone calls.

Expandable SD storage.

Decent Camera.

It would be nice to have these classics, but I could live without:

A stylus, but i know that's probably rare. I was a zero lemon note 4 user. :)

Beefcake battery.

Headphone jack.

Protection from liquid and/or shock.

I just bought an "Unlocked" Motorola G Stylus 5g from Best Buy yesterday and I am enjoying it, but when recording calls it only records my voice and not the other party. I have 14 days to return the phone if it doesn't work for me, so I really appreciate any insight anyone has for me before then.

I am in the USA. WA

My carrier is Verizon.

My current device is a Moto G Stylus 5g

Thank you

-Natron
[General Questions and Answers] natronordie:
Sorry, not seeing how to delete accidental second post.