yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dmeadows013:
Well you got me started....

First, let me apologize if I misspelled something or if I covered an already covered point or missed one. I only read the last 2 pages and I've had enough. I've seen people act like **** but this is a new low. First let me credit Joel for being the awesome dev that he is and dealing with those of you who aren't respecting him. Devs have lives you know... And by the way just because you haven't seen a devs work doesn't mean that they don't have it. When you are chosen by the developer comittee, it means that a group of xda's elite believes that you are worthy of the title. They don't just give it to anyone. And, take it from a dev: we don't have to build roms for you. We don't owe you anything. It was your choice donating and if we just take your money, tough luck. You took that risk when you sent the money. This isn't a bank transfer or company funds transfer, it's your money and your PayPal. And again, we have lives. I don't know about other devs, but I know I have a very busy life. I am a full time student. So is Con, and so is Joel. We don't have to develop for you, we don't expect money. We do it because we love to. We don't expect donations, and we don't intend to receive them when begin developing. If we get them, we are thankful for every one. However, again, we owe you nothing. If Joel spends three months making a kickass rom, you should be thankful. Good things take time. It's not gonna happen overnight. Good things take time, you know.

Now, the other thing. New users post without searching. Sometimes even experienced users. Hell, even I'm guilty of it. It's not gonna stop, it's just a part of having a forum as big as this. The only way to make an impact on it is to tell them what they did wrong. Now, there is a limit... If someone posts in the development forum and asks "omg guyz whut case shud I buy?!?" then they need to be disciplined. There is no excuse for that except if you were drunk or high, and even then it's a stretch. All you guys just need to ****ing chill and deal with the noobs. We all were one time.

Now, I hope that this post stays when the thread gets cleaned because people need to learn respect. Without it, this whole community is gonna turn to ****.

/end rant

Via my Google Galaxy S3 running AOKP goodness
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] blestsol:
Your ranting just flopped where you spoke on the part about the donated device. It's not tough luck if a developer gets a device and does nothing for it. That's effed up. That dev shouldn't be respected anymore. Joelz case is different but from what you described.. That dev should be ran off. And no developers DONT have to do anything but they know damn well what the device was given to them for. Joelz previous work has gotten him a device because people saw the work he puts out. And if he's busy with life it would of been courteous for him to mention that for the people that don't know him previously from other forums.

Your rant isn't going to show respect for anything. It's just adding more flame to a stupid fire because you're a recognized dev and feel your opinion should trump everyone elses. You think respect is saying a dev can run off with a device tough luck if he wants? You should of thought that rant out.

Edit : I wanna say I respect the work of all devs do rather its themers or stock tweakers, but this superiority you're flaunting is annoying as hell. With Devs thinking like you.. The community will go further into ****.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nosympathy:
Lol +1 and I feel bad for what I am about to say, but I don't see him being a recognized dev. Dmeadoes that is.

He brought in protekk on the rezound. Great Job there!!! Lmao. Then failed to bring CM9 to the rezound for months and months. Then was beaten to the punch by a KERNEL dev.

Do you even have this phone? I feel like you got a bump from a buddy to come save them in this thread.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] blestsol:
I didn't wanna mention Protekk because I kept hearing that he did do some behind the scenes things. But He also just "quit" and abandoned the Rez. After a device was donated.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
A donation is usually sent for work you currently have released and already done. A device is sent for future work you will do.

If you have an attitude that it is okay to take a device and decide not to do anything with it and then say f... off to the people that bought it for you then, recognized dev or not we don't want you here. You are a thief and not a dev.

While not everyone here is a dev we all dedicate a lot of time on this site and to Android. I spend hours and hours helping people out on these forums because I enjoy it and want to see others enjoy their devices as much as I do. So while we all don't have dev status, we all spend lots of our personal time here for one reason or another.

@dmeadows....after your statement I do not believe anyone should or want to donate to you. Your comment was more shocking then anything I have read in this entire thread and is a disgrace to XDA and all the repsected developers who apprectiate the donations they receive.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] voodoomanx:
This thread shouldn't be cleaned. It should stay as a reminder of what can happen. People have been honest and their opinions count as much as anyone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] drbveb88:
I read that the beta was being pushed out, is it being pm'd or is there a download site that i am missing?

Thanks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fix-this!:
no offense but weren't you suppose to make a aosp rom for the rezound? maybe im thinking of protekk but your name seems familiar. i spoke to joelz via pm and he will be sending beta's out to people who donated.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] RCOVA:
blestsol - 1

dmeadows013 - 0

Sent from CNA
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nosympathy:
How is he 1 for zero when I am the one who made that point and he just agreed with me lol. :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jakereeves31:
Maybe it's because you have no sympathy:P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
In that same vein, hopefully the xda "elite" who bestowed that title upon you remove it after seeing your post. Good luck getting donations after that one.

P.S. notice how nobody liked your post? That means not a single person agreed with you. Ouch.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] RCOVA:
I like what he said better. Lol jk. Fine NoSympathy. You can get 2 for the initial point.

So the new score is:

NoSympathy - 2

Blestsol - 1

Dmeadows013 - 0

Lol

Edit: Sorry I didn't see 1manwolfepack's post. Got to give a point to him too. :)

Sent from CNA
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tonu42:
Oh dear God I love this thread. It reminds me exactly of enyo in the fascinate. I'm gonna grab some popcorn for this one :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Seirÿu:
Not trying to start anything here, but... when did the THANKS button become a Facebook Like button to boost the views of half naked ugly chicks on the interwebs 'cause their parents don't love them enough?

IMHO this thread has turned into a pissing match disguised as a "debate" and has contributed nothing to the community.

If Joelz gets some work out, more power to him, but at this point - I wouldn't blame the guy for abandoning the device/project all together from reading this thread. I choose to donate to COMPLETED work, or people I feel have put a lot of work into something and need help to focus more time on a project. To donate is not to buy a consultant to achieve whatever you want, and should be used as a reward for dev... Buy 'em a beer! Donated devices has ALWAYS been a crapshoot, things happen in life and people's investment didn't pay off... sucks, get over it and move on... go support work that's being done and completed.

Anyways, just my $0.02 which isn't worth much these days.

Later Dayz!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
The cool thing about this thread is everyone has a right to their opinion whether we agree with it or not. In the end, we all share the same love and that is Android!

Glad to see the mods left this thread open although I am a bit surprised...Hopefully we can continue to debate the issue at hand. Would also be a good sticky in every device section with the title of "Are Bounties for Phones Really Worth It'. lol

It does leave a good question out there though. If a device is bought for a dev and he accepts it, should he be responsible for developing something on it in some sort of timely fashion and if not should he be required to pass the device on or, should these devices be purchased for devs and then the dev can totally say 'f' you and keep it anyway as Meadows has said without any care or obligation.

There is no right or wrong answer but we definitely have people with different opinions. What is the unwritten law and maybe one needs to be written if there is none!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dmeadows013:
I'm not flaunting superiority. I have much respect for all users who respect others. Ask anyone who Joel or another dev has helped. Devs are very respectful most of the time. I am a user as any other. I don't even run my own roms.

And for those saying I should have the title removed, fine. Remove it. It's just a title. Sure, it has some perks, but it doesn't change my person. It doesn't make me better or worse that anyone. I just want everyone to respect each other.

Via my Google Galaxy S3 running AOKP goodness
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nosympathy:
So...

In the same logic floating in this thread...oh that you said...

If a presidential candidate says they will do a, b, and c and then you vote him into office and he does x, y, and z that you don't want him to do, is that OK? Are you going to vote for him again?

Probably not.

How is that any different than what happened here?

Dev gets a thread dedicated to him getting a device. Says a, b, and c will be done.

None of that happens and dev does x, y, and z.

Now your mad that we are mad he hasn't done what he said he would.

What?!

I am pretty sure the mods have left this open as there has been no flaming, but a lot of facts that people don't want to hear. People that get told things they don't like to hear usually will cry to a mod because there feelings are hurt. Specially when it concerns someone they think is great.

When you have a huge amount of people that don't agree. Makes you start to wonder...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dmeadows013:
Kernel devs are some of the best around. Chad is an incredible dev. And he didn't do it alone, around 10 other people helped to make it perfect. And yes I have the phone. I just want everyone to respect each other.

Via my Google Galaxy S3 running AOKP goodness
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dmeadows013:
Things take time... Like I said. Every one is busy and sometimes things take longer than expected. Ask anyone

Via my Google Galaxy S3 running AOKP goodness
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nosympathy:
I've seen his tactics on the rezound, and now on here. He waits forever, releases a "bug less" rom that is full of bugs.

Sorry. Not going to magically change my mind on him.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dmeadows013:
Did you read my post? I specifically said developers are thankful for every donation we recieve. I just said no developer starts developing to get donations. I said nothing about not being grateful for donations.

Also, about the donating phone part, I may have not made a clear point...

Is it wrong if a dev takes a phone and doesn't uphold a promise? Absolutely! Can you ***** and whine about it? Be my guest. Does it give you the right to permanently disrespect other devs who didn't do anything wrong? No.

Now that I believe that I've made my point clear, I'm done. I just want everyone to respect each other. Thats it. I don't care if I get my dev title removed. Now that I've said what I wanted to say, I've reported this thread.

Joel, can't wait to run your roms.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nosympathy:
From what you just said why cant people be mad at joelz? He got a phone and hasn't upheld his promise. You said it is fine to be mad about that. No one got mad at any other devs. Except you and the statement you mad earlier for saying the exact opposite of what you are saying now.

Call me confused.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dmeadows013:
Joel has upheld his promise. Just because he hasn't released anything yet doesn't mean he won't. I've talked to him and he has 1 rom almost working completely and another in beta.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] wlmeng11:
Wow these GS3 folks are hard to please. :p

Over in the Rezound forum, we've all experienced what it is like to have a lack of development. (I called it the jelly-pocalypse, because it was around the time jelly bean came out)

Now, everyone that didn't just join is truly appreciative of any work that devs put out.

Like one guy said a while back during the jelly-pocalypse:

Don't donate on the premise of expecting something in the future.

Rather, donate as a token of appreciation for existing work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nosympathy:
Oh yeah? I have 9 roms ready to release. Just donate a phone to me and I'll release them! I talked to my friend and he said he is going to buy me a ferrari!

People can say anything. You actually have to do something to be taken seriously.

Also, now after his posts about his roms being bug free, this release better not have a single bug. Not one. Don't care how small it is.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dmeadows013:
EXACTLY! The jelly-pocalypse was during the dark days :(

Has Joel not released incredible roms in the past? He released the first sense 3.0 rom for the incredible, first sense 3.5 for the incredible, and an incredible rom for the Rezound.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nosympathy:
Never had an incredible.

Did have a rezound and every ROM of his I ran was buggy to the point for me and what I do, I couldn't run it as a daily driver.

Want me to dig it up? I have a quote where joelz himself admitted the last time this kind of arguments came up and I called him out that not a single point I made was invalid.

I am not saying anything different now than I did last time.

I ran newts ROM proudly because for over two months it worked solid while I watched joelz thread sit idle and start fights because his ROM was behind and missing features, full of bugs, and he couldn't get a release out. Finally he left the rezound for the nexus and released what he had. All of it very buggy compaired to newts XXX and nobody wanted to run it.

Then he came crawling back to the rezound and finally released a new ROM under venom that I didn't run because by that point the sgsiii was out and I had moved on.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
Lol, you reported this thread but continue to take part in it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] KennyG123:
Well this has gone on for way too long!

The moderators are tired of the daily reports from this thread.

Please PM Joelz directly here: http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=3449508 and ask for progress

I am sure he will start a thread in development when the ROM is ready

I will not allow any more of all the pissing and dev bashing going on in this thread.

Please get each others' Facebook for that.

I am sorry if this takes away someone's venting outlet but there is nothing constructive here

Thank you for your understanding

Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
im at $200 thanks to Jshokamp =)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] collins521:
Almost there!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mikeew83:
Ok donated 26

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
Thanks a lot guys were close =)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
Bump
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] droidstyle:
Update ur sig :silly:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
I'm lazy and haven't unlocked yet
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nufan:
OP, you're not donating?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
Yea I have thought about it but I'm in high school so I really don't have money... I provide Joel with other things though.....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] pyrostic:
You might want to rephrase this it sounds aweful.

I'll donate 10$ next Friday (payday) if you don't have enough by then.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
lmfao i didnt think of it that way until u mentioned it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cordell12:
Like what kind of things? LoL yeah rephrase that!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Marcismo55:
Yeah that does sound pretty bad.

How do we know how close we are in donations to what he can purchase?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] droidstyle:
Please keep your personal life to yourself :p
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] The Archangel:
Let's get back on topic chaps.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
swappa goes for $500 or so......were $300 or so off maybe i can find one for $400 ish but yea $300 more is for the goal in the OP to be met...really want this phone been watching reviews about it and it looks sick look forward to being part of this community
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
Lol I actually realized that right after I posed it but didn't want to mention it... We live on opposite sides of the country though so it would be kinda hard :P anyways back on topic
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
there was a $400 sgs3 on swappa cheapeast i found its gone now though lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cordell12:
Out of curiosity what will your development be geared towards? I noticed you plan to work on the warm ROM series, any dev work on AOSP though?

Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
but of course.....BAMF Paradigm FTW =)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cordell12:
added $15 ;)

Confirmation number: 5R915424NK7453347

I liked Paradigm ROM on my Gnex when I had it!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] hesh.monster:
Donated $15.00 confirmation number: 41S18051DH864593T

Would LOVE to see paradigm for this device and it would just be wrong for me to own a device and not run a Rom that Adrynalyne was involved with lol ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jaben2:
55E489633N032730S just added $25 more because of Paradigm. That was the only rom I could run for more than a few days without a change.

Also it is jaben2 not 20.

Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
Thanks a lot guys =) very close half way there
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
I have a brand new Galaxy S3 White for sale. Switched to AT@T. $300
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
You sir are amazing. Thank you.

Wait it is a vzw one right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
Lol! Just switched last night

---------- Post added at 05:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:19 PM ----------

Yes it is the White 16gb
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
i have $253 right now........can i give u that and then give u the rest when i have enough? or can u wait? also do u have pics? and would you be willing to post on swappa? also is it clean esn?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jaben2:
Hopefully they can get a deal worked out, or hold out for the extra dollars.

We need to get some paradigm on this, and I am assuming it still has the FFDP boot up.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
We are talking about everything right now :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
Pics will be up shortly (everything on the phone is clean)!! Happy I finally have a chance to help these awesome Devs that have done so much for me!

---------- Post added at 06:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:05 PM ----------

I would be willing to do the $253 and the rest later I'll be home in like an hour to upload pics
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
Alright cool thanks a lot man
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
Not to make you feel rushed or anything but it has been far more than an hour. Any progress on the pic?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
On my way home right now give like 30 and pics will be up Mary Kay party for the wife! Lol almost home sorry guys
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] blestsol:
Mary Kay party.. Makes sense man lol.

Synergized GS3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
Sorry it took so long guys
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
any chance you could write your username on a piece of paper and put it in the pic? thats kinda the standard way to verify here. Thanks for understanding
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] collins521:
That would go well with the white oem flip cover case I have for sale :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
he actually is looking for a case so you can talk to him about that if you want
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
Sorry I'm new to this whole thank! Thanks for your patience guys!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] con247:
Can you power it on to verify the screen works?

If you could also load it up with the pocketESN app to verify it is clean that would be a great piece of mind too.

Lol for $300 I'd buy it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
do u have a gtalk u can add me on?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
No problem. Everything seems to check out perfectly. Do you happen to have a Gtalk to work out the details?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
I think so its just labeled talk correct! Lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
it would just be your gmail
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
add me
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
tattooboy12@gmail.com
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
A deal was worked out. Joelz is sending $110 via paypal to tattoboy who is shipping the device tomorrow and will give him the tracking number. The rest of the money will be delivered via paypal once the device is confirmed to be what tattoboy says.

Any other info i should provide?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jaben2:
Great to hear. Looking forward to his work.

That still leaves us slightly light on the money still right?

Let's get the final dollars together.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
yep we need $47 more
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Dovigoldberger:
Donated $20 here's my confirmation number 8UX80260M2657024M
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
Thanks. Alright guys we just need $27 more
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] droidstyle:
I took care of the 27.00.

Confirmation # 7EC40057XX368633D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
Thank you As well!

That should be our goal and the device is shipping today as far as i know.

Thanks to everyone who donated and let an awesome device get a amazing dev :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] incubus26jc:
sweet... i need this guy back. Thanks everyone for helping out. It feels like hes been in jail and his bond was just posted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] droidstyle:
Lol...no problem! Cant wait to see you both in action on this device!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
Device on its way 2 day Fed-Ex'ed that bad boy! Thanks for the patience again!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jaben2:
So Joelz get the phone today? I am guessing not since I haven't seen a paradigm post yet.

(obviously just joking for anyone not getting the sarcasm)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
Yes I talked to him he got it, backed up the meid and imei and rooted as well as unlocked tonight
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] The Archangel:
This is why I love xda
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tonu42:
Word man, I was the guy who started the AdamOutler device reachout. I got the money in like 50 minutes..... it was a bit ridiculous.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
Thanks a lot guys =)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mikeew83:
Np so now that mission has been accomplished and not asking for eta on anything just curious when we can start seeing some dev going on
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AndroidGraphix:
Sweet. Can't wait to flash some of your work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
i can confirm hes already working on it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Marcismo55:
Joelz haz been quite...I think that's a good thing for us. I smell some Paradigm 2.3 :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mikeew83:
Sweet
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cordell12:
we should also put a device in the hands of _______ (<---insert RIL DEV Here). :good: