yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] OnceAMatrixMan:
I doubt anyone was hustled. I used a Joel ROM in my Dinc for a few weeks, but it was incomplete and he moved on to something new. Apparently he does this (according to a very well respected developer - look in the Dinc1 dev forum for Joelz ROM, I don't remember which one it was any longer). And I doubt he didn't finish because he had bad motives, his priorities just changed. But I doubt I would use his final product for the reasons above.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Last time I checked your name isn't on the list of donators. So how are you effected by this in anyway? All your doing is trying to stir up a situation that isn't as bad as your making it out to be.

It's called a donation for a reason. How many times has it been stated that Team BAMF does not release BETA Roms? Countless times...

Further more, Joelz has a life as much as the rest of us and the last time I checked XDA isn't going to put someone thru college. This is a hobby, not a job.

Morale of this, wait for a release and stop trying to cause problems. If you don't like Joelz and/or Team BAMF, then keep your opinions to yourself instead of flaming them every chance you get.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
I would never donate to BAMF --- EVER.

I'm raising awareness. I'm sure some of you donators have thought the same thoughts I put on print.

And I'll do what I want. I'll go to any forum and post whatever I please. Try to stop me ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Not my job to stop you, but I'm sure Mods will. Thread reported. I come here to look for progress, not your pointless rambling
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Reported for what? Stating facts? Ok, well if that's how XDA wants to roll, I'll take my infraction.

Nitro had a stable JB AOSP build (that I booted fine) without even owning the device. You guys donated (bought him a device) and two months later you have NOTHING. I would feel burned if I were you....but I guess you're ok with it!

Not my money :p

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Had to post again, as I reread your post.

You come here looking for progress? I'd suggest looking in another thread...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] con247:
Because I have seen it with my own eyes. I can guarantee it is being worked on. He doesn't put private test builds on his goo
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TheDiabolicaL1:
This thread being moderated or locked would be the lamest thing I've seen to date and that includes all the ****ing "what's the best ROM" threads combined.

The "I don't agree with what you say so I'm going to report it" **** is lame as **** as well.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Doesn't matter if it is there. Two months after the community purchased him a device and he has not ONE test/beta build. That is unacceptable. I don't care that BAMF doesn't release "betas" or "only when it's bug free" or "not public test builds" --- it's a joke, man. Serious. Wake up.

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Thank you! Hopefully the mods see that as well.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] musclehead84:
I agree with 1manwolfpack. I didn't donate but come on 2 months he has had the device and nothing. That's ridiculous. If he wasn't planning on developing he shouldn't have agreed to this. Plain and simple. You all did get hustled.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
Can you guys stop fighting? Why does it matter if you didn't donate? By the way, its not his job, he has school and most importantly, A LIFE! If you did DONATE to him, your not paying his paycheck! If you want a ROM, you are going to wait until its ready.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
I think he's in over his head. If he needs Skyraiders help, it seems you should have donated to skyraider.

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Who's fighting? I'm good man.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] RCOVA:
Well my oh my. This thread is quite entertaining. I'll just add this to my subscriptions.. :D

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Neverendingxsin:
I really wanted to stay out of this but here is my input. I used team bamf roms on my thunderbolt and they were amazing, they had a lot of them and brought things to that phone that i never thought would happen, and they worked on those builds, updated them, fixed the issues, etc. I never once looked at that team as a "con" now then when the thunderbolt had nowhere left to go, they stop developing. Why? Because it was at the end of its rope, without a working ics leak, and countless ril issues, that was it for the thunderbolt. I was disappointed that team bamf had nothing left to do, but hey that's how things happen in the phone world.

My point to that story is i donated to them on multiple occasions. Why? Because i was showing appreciation for what they did, and never once expected something in return from them for that donation. Did it give me a right to demand things? No it did. Why? Because i chose to do that.

Anyways, you guys made a donation to this guy so he could develop for the SIII, that's great, but you've also got to realize that you chose to make that donation. If he actually brings you a rom, then great he does, if he doesn't well that sucks and you'll know for future reference not to give money out of blind faith. It's amazing that you guys are able to come together to get him the phone and i really hope he brings a bamf rom to the SIII because i still love the bamf roms. But really cut it out with all the *****ing and moaning, its not helping the issue at all, and i'm sure it doesn't make Joelz any more inclined to give you what you want.

I understand why you feel cheated, but there's no point in putting it all on blast in this thread, you can say whatever you want, but you chose to make that donation. If he takes your money and runs, what good will that do for him? He'll have a bad name and then nobody else will want to donate to him. Give the guy a break and run some other rom for now, when he's ready to release, he will release the rom, until then there's nothing to see here so move along.

Anyways, that's it, i'm done.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] musclehead84:
We're not fighting bro just stating what we think. That's all. I didn't donate cause I have never heard of joelz before. I just came to Verizon two weeks ago from Sprint so all the developers are new to me here. I just know that 2 months is a long time without showing something that the community bought for him to develop on. I remember on the epic touch we had a guy developing for the phone that didn't even have it. Of course we got him the phone. He already proved himself.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
He is good. He's done a sh!t ton for the rezound. He is reliable.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Exactly. But let's continue to knock a dev we know nothing about. That makes perfect sense.

:rolleyes:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
Yup. Makes sense (<--- pun intended) lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
I know all I need to know about Joelz from reading this thread...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
No you don't. You don't realize this is NOT joelz fault. It is Bamf. He is not responsible for bamf wanting everything perfect.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
How many devices has the community bought Joelz? How many "bugfree" ROMs has he released?

Additionally, you gave money to a high schooler? I bet he's been playing Borderlands 2 the last month. Any "real" devs would have had a build out. To prove it -- go check the development sections.

Case closed. Have fun waiting ladies and gents ;)

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Okee dokee. All I hear is excuses.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
He is getting killed by school work. Sure he might play video games, but so does everyone. And don't bring borderlands into this lol he is a real dev in my book and will have a ROM out any day now. Case closed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Any day now, huh? You guys have been saying that for two months. Next time you want to throw some money out for nothing, hit me up ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
Why dont you build it then? Well, he is just a high school student.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
You guys roommates or something? You have access to his diary?

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I don't need to build, as I donate to devs that do ;)

I've got JB goodness all over the place.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
No point in arguing with someone who is obviously butt hurt with BAMF.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Are you his counselor? Lol. You speak as if you're his brother or father.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
No, I just know he has a nice history of releasing solid ROMs and I know how strict bamf is BC of how on the rezound, the link was pulled BC it wasn't good enough. Eris then helped the dev with the bugs and its great now. Bamf does not believe in betas or mostly working ROMs.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Lol. Read back, my friend. Tried a build and flashed away in two minutes. Never been banned or in a fight with a BAMF member.

Just stating facts. Have fun living in Never-neverland, y'all! ;)

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Again, I'll be on 4.2 before you get 4.1. Have fun.

I think Moto of 2011 can put out a build faster than this guy...or Verizon for that matter.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Yeah, that's because the builds are rushed and full of bugs, if that's your thing, then by all means enjoy.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] RCOVA:
Ok. This is getting a little too ridiculous. I love people arguing, I mean "stating facts", but everyone needs to calm down. 1manwolfepack. I've seen you in many threads but come on. You are usually helpful and nice. This is getting out of hand. Everyone relax and enjoy this bunny :)

(\__/)

(='.'=)

('')_('')

Sent from CNA
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Name one bug my build has? I can't find one.

Have fun guys! I'm out! ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
Your build? You have a rom?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
That was referred to your Moto/Verizon comment. ;)

And yes, this will be last post towards the ridiculous comments that have been posted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
The AOSP ROM I'm on. You assumed it is bug-ridden. Riddle me this:

What build AM I on? :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
I didn't assume anything lol it sounded like you had a rom
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Nope. And I'm done here. Got my point across.

Have fun, guys! :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] KennyG123:
Enough!

Back on topic please!

I hate long good-byes!

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
For any non believers
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Now post it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
I can't
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
September 13th?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
What?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] shawnten:
Just my two cents but joelz always used to post betas and ports on the evo 3d. He was always awesome at that but I really don't remember him ever getting a rom Polished. He would get it usable then it was like he got bored or stumped then he would move on to the next port. But he was very good and making something work that wasn't supposed to
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
Bamf won't let him release it until it's perfect
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Build date of his screenie.

Edit: 10/6. Still...

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You on the BAMF payroll? What AOSP ROM is perfect? Not fighting, just asking.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fix-this!:
Hope its 4.1.2 not 4.1.1 as in that screenshot. Ive seen bamf post alphas and betas before...just saying!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] skater95:
Maybe not every AOSP is perfect, but maybe he wants to achieve that? He has high standards for his Rom, apparently. It'll release, we he decides to release it. How many other roms do you have to choose from?

Sent from my Cocaine White S3.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
It will be. I that's a really old screen shot and he has put quite a bit of work into it since then
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fix-this!:
Not to be rude but aosp roms are never finished. By the time their close the next google os is out. Until we get our ota aosp will always be a bit buggy. Heck key lime is being announced and released soon. Its a never ending cycle.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Well said. Look at CM9 for example.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] hopesrequiem:
What's cm9? /sarcasm haha never tried it because I could never find it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
i havent seen them post an alpha or beta or paradigm
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
It will be 4.1.2...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
thats one of the last builds before 4.1.2 became an issue
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] NickStew:
Any news on how its coming along? :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] voodoomanx:
It's not.

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You guys act like he's part of the payroll of some elite organization. Did bamf sign off on him taking a bounty device "in their name"?

What is bamf going to do? Tell his mom and dad to ground him?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
Taken from the first post of this thread. What happened to that?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Furthermore, were all of you aware of this (and did Joelz make it clear) at any point during the donate process?

Raw deal, dudes.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] musclehead84:
Still waiting.... Lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
AFAIK, he's waiting for a vzw jb leak.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mikeew83:
This is just horse ****u regret ever getting this ****ing kid a phone in order to be a Dev you actually have to post a ROM 2 plus months this kid had had this phone ill personally never donate or supporta member of teambamf barring this is how they roll
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
No one forced you to donate 26$. You chose to do that. Don't be *****ing if things don't turn out the way you hoped.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fix-this!:
This is why i dont donate to get people phones. Although joelz is a pretty good guy.

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I have for both the tbolt and rezound, maybe the dinc2 as well.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Wow. Just wow.

Joelz, step it up and come post. Like you don't have subscriptions turned on in your own thread.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] voodoomanx:
I'm waiting for a vzw jb leak too. Can I have $600 and ill get a rom together too!

P.S. Waiting for a jb leak? So no rom until mid 2013.

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People won't donate in the future if this trend is accepted as the norm and then real dev's will suffer and in turn the community will suffer. It's the one bad apple principle.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] PsiPhiDan:
He just posted on the last page. I think twice.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nosympathy:
This is why I didn't donate. I watched it happen on the rezound, and he has done it again here.

Also if Joelz will use every excuse imaginable. He will say school, summer school, party's, vacations, waiting on leaks, can't release until someone else does, etc.

I have never seen a dev make more excuses.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] WizeGuyDezignz:
I understand all the frustration, but what you don't realize is that you guys are making it easier on him to not release a ROM now. Or at least delay it more than it already is.

Now it will be easy for him to say he's offended and say he's not gonna make a ROM for complainers. It's a catch 22.

Just saying.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DROID3R:
The only people/team who should had gotten a donated phone were nitro(he got it) and nitsuij ( team sbrissenmod)

TSM made the droid charge shine.

iSheep... iSheep... Meowww that's Apple
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] RCOVA:
Just imagine he releases a perfect rom where every other Rom just pale in comparison. It's just so amazing that instead of releasing Jelly Bean for the rest of the phones, Google releases the Joelz Android OS and then stops developing for Android phones. He then wins a Nobel Peace prize for his Rom because the world is so occupied with just the screenshots of the Rom that it ends all wars. Then soon after World Peace aliens come and abduct Joelz and force him to develop new alien software because they cannot even rival his Rom software capabilities. But he sets himself free with the teleporting function of his Rom. Haha. That's obviously not gonna happen but I just like to think of random, funny, mythical scenarios. Lol

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] wera750:
Lol check your pm's :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] voodoomanx:
Either way there's no rom :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] KennyG123:
This is why Bounty threads are frowned upon on XDA

More times than not they turn into this

Always people get upset because their "investment" doesn't pay off quick enough

Let this be a lesson not to contribute to these in the future

In the meantime if the endless bickering doesn't stop I will close this thread

Thank you for your cooperation

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jager420:
Wow..been sippin to much haterade?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fix-this!:
Does myn have a sg3?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
i did release the rom for rezound not my fault you werent around to witness it..there not excuses its the truth
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
yea he does
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
really i havent seen anything publicly? the rezound beta wasn't posted by us
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
we started working on it yesterday.......from the official sprint JB rom...we don't work off leaks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
Lol whatever man check your pm's
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
can anyone that donated pm me....so i can know who to send a beta to
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Jshokamp:
PM sent
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jmichaels1982:
Didnt donate

Didnt donate on gs3, did on the rezound though.

Joelz rom was the only rom i ran for months, until i sold my rezound.

I miss my rezound , and i miss viper even more.

This community is becoming like the rezound, good job , all because one man had mommy issues and bamf issues.

When we loose all of our devs bec of stunts like these , you guys will whine and moan like lil babies.

Luckily joelz is mad nice, when Protekk was faced with the same situation in the rezound , he just bounced.

GUYS listen carefully, XDA never needed regular users and never will , we have a privilege of being here, not a right in any way or shape or form.

We will wake up one day and lose it all.

Joelz , you have a lot of class for even honoring us with responses.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jakereeves31:
I agree 100% with you. Every day I come back to this thread just to see more accusations about Joelz. I don't know of any of his work or anything, but still no one has any right to be saying some of the things that have been said. Show some class, please. We're all adults here...for the most part, so let's act like it. Joelz is obviously busy with life, family, work, getting his ROM perfect, and whatever else takes up his time. Nothing wrong with being a perfectionist in my eyes, but heck its not like I would mind if I got a beta that has a couple issues with it. It is a beta after all. That is all. Have a nice day everyone:)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TheDiabolicaL1:
I want what he's on...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
Thanks =) im not leaving for a long time
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] collins521:
Also gotta remember the $30 activation fee that is added as well
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] con247:
Well the $430 one will probably be gone well before the bounty is finished. I was just offering up another suggestion. That way he could also get one in the color he wanted, brand new, w/ warranty.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
right i always forget about that cause it doesnt affect me... neither does the family plans but thats another story :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
a dev with warrenty? thats like giving candy to a baby, and before he can eat it taking it away
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mrbracht:
Joelz made the rezound amazing. Just saying. I would love to see his work on this phone. I will donate later this week. :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
This is true. He also did some amazing things on the incredible. Thanks for the support :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] con247:
bump for a great dev.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
Lol was just about to do that :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] con247:
u wasted a bump :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] incubus26jc:
Comon Joelz.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
i didnt know it was possible to "waste" a bump lol

anywasy

BUMP
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] hopesrequiem:
If I wasn't on the verge on being out on the street I would donate. Joel did great things with team venom on the rezound. They got a ROM that sent etas from the devs themselves. **** that was revolutionary lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
its alright man. im sure he will get enough donation
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
My buddy incubus good times =D look forward to working with you again
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
im up to $74 someone donated not for the sgs3 but any donation from any device that i get now will go towards the sgs3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mikeew83:
What's the pot at
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] renzo.olivares:
$74
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mikeew83:
I'll put 26 to put it to the 100 mark give me just a bit here I'll throw it on PayPal
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
Thank you as well :D we are at $100 now
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] werdna87:
Due to a very generous donation, Joel is now at $200!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nosympathy:
Yes, after nearly 3 months? I had run someone else's rom for months because it worked waiting for you to fix yours, not to mention you just up and left the rezound community and then came crawling back. Can't wait until you get a real job and try and pull the same stunts you pull here. You won't be employed for very long.

I don't think I've seen another dev cause such a stir in multiple phone sub forums. Makes me wonder if you did this in the galaxy nexus forums too.