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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Nessuno1:
I've just joined the club ! :p

Well first I want to say I love this device, I love every single part of it !

And I thank every XDA member that shared his feelings about it because I bought it thanks to you.

I have an A500 and I was pleased with it, although due to its limitations I wanted to upgrade to something better. I first considered the TF700 + dock, but I was not entirely convinced due to all the hardware issues I could see all over the web, and some performances issues too in some cases. I could accept a 300€ device like the A500 didn't perform greatly but I expect a 600€ device (with the dock) like the TF700 not to have any flaw. The other thing was it was just another tablet : it could do everything better, but nothing more.

I thought I would wait until Christmas to make a decision, and even if I knew there would be the Note 10.1 around I didn't expect anything special from it...until I saw a demo of its multitasking capabilities.

Then it only remained to be seen wether it worked really well as advertised or not in actual use.

Reviews were not really encouraging, some were even harsh and litterally bashed the device, others were more informative (like on Mobile Tech Review, great site btw) but here came the XDA forums and I could get all the required information.

What can I say ? I havn't encountered ANY of the issues mentionned in the bad reviews and it seems it's always better to trust actual users than (biaised ?) reviews. I can even say some websites has lost credit to my eyes (I'm talking about The Verge, actually Android Police has never had any credit to me).

So I'd say definitely yes, it's worth buying.

As a "simple" tablet", it's great :

- web browser is perfectly fast and smooth, the S-pen can even be used as mouse.

- browsing through the desktop pages is really smooth and pleasant even with pages almost fully loaded with icons and widgets.

- we get full screen pictures and movies, even the android bar disappears when watching medias (it does not on my A500).

- overall the software is great and performs really well, very stable too.

- battery life is really good, I get up to 11 hours of web browsing, over 14 hours of 720p movies.

As a multitasker, it's unique and plenty useful, at least for me.

Also about the build quality, I'd say everyone is obviously entitled to consider premium what he wants according to its own standards and feelings, but as for me I don't associate aluminium nor glass with premium, neither plastic by the way. What matters to me is the way it looks (even though I will NEVER buy a device just because of its look). I do think the iPhone 4/4S and the TF700 look beautiful, but the same goes for the GN 10.1, I really enjoy its look too.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Fanboyism for the SGN10.1 in the SGN10.1 Forum? Shocking.

Here's the bottom line. You come into OUR Forum talking trash about OUR device's build quality, don't be surprised to get some pushback. YOU may think the iPad3 has better build quality, I think it feels like a cheese slicer. Also its lines are very feminine. The iPad3 is the Mazda Miata of tablets. I love sportscars but as a dude I wouldn't be caught dead in a Miata.

Someone will need to explain to me why a metal back on a tablet is somehow superior? Its hard, heavy, will scratch more easily and provides no give in case of a drop. For those who feel like the middle of the back flexes, why are you constantly pushing on the middle of the back? For those who say it creaks if you twist it, why are you constantly twisting it? It's a tablet not a shake-weight.

IPad does one thing better than the SGN10.1 - the dpi. That's it. On the other hand, SGN10.1 does 10 things iPad can't dream of.

Want a toy buy an iPad. Want a tool, buy an SGN10.1.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Enough's been said.

Works great. As for what JB brings, people are drawing conclusions based on an incomplete OTA test build for India. I'd assume you'll get what you've got (the six modified apps) until something official indicates otherwise.

You can set GMail up for push via ActiveSync in the stock Samsung e-mail client. You can also have it running the way you normally would via the Google app. It's redundant but would allow you access to your GMail stuff while in multi-view. Also, you don't need multi-view to share content between apps. The clipboard on the Note really is more of a scrapbook. In any app you can capture content including media and send it to the clipboard. It's persistent and will remain there until you remove it; even after a reboot. There's a pic of it below.

Agreed. It eliminates a lot of the sharing between other devices and should have been included. The Note's months late because Samsung made changes to it. The upgrade to Exynos Quad didn't require any revision to the MB as it's designed with the same footprint as the dual-core chip originally intended for the Note. Adding NFC would have probably required more re-work and created further delays.

I have a 3G and the additional battery drain is negligible. Cell standby is never more than one or two percent at idle.

This is my third Samsung tablet (coming from a P7500 3G). Compared to other tablets the Note really is night and day. Exynos Quad and 2GB of RAM totally change the tablet's personality. With the P7500 I'd find myself thinking about how I'd approach something I wanted to do based on its performance limitations. With the Note everything just works and works well. The browser is a near desktop experience. Look at the poll at the top of the page. In all my time on XDA I've never seen a device so well received by its owners. And there's way too many "8s" and "9s" for every one of those voters to be considered fanbois. I think people are just shocked at how good the Note is at what it does; especially compared to other Android tablets. I’d consider what your calling “fanboi-ism” enthusiasm created by a device released that works better than people expected which is refreshing.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dhd1802:
i have a metal phone (DHD) and a plastic phone (ZTE blade), both 18 months old and they have both been dropped multiple times. the dhd is like new, where the zte has dents, cracks scratches and looks 5 year old.

imho for durablility a metal back is far superior, but for signal plastic wins... i wouldn't like to drop my note when it arrives and it crack. so if the back and corners was replaceable i personally would change them to a metal one. i know it will eventually crack if dropped so it will be housed in a case!

on the demo i tried my fingers went a third across the back, which i will take a pic off when it arrives, which meant i could feel the inward movement of the back. i'm sure you will tell me that im holding it incorrectly ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
Plastic or metal? I prefer the"plastic", it's much more comfortable to hold than the iPad 2. The Note feels much lighter and I appreciate that! However, the Note is so excellent, I would buy it even if it had some kind of metal or aluminum back.

What I find most enjoyable is that It seems to be full of pleasant surprises. It's like it does so much more than I expected. It says "yes". My sister's ipad seems to be full of unpleasant surprises. It seems very slow and limiting and quite the opposite of the Note.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] tenderidol:
I agree with you completely!

Enough with this "how can you come to our forum and bash our beloved product" nonsense. It's really getting tiring! We get it; some people around here are in love with their Note 10.1, and if you look at it the wrong way, they start spewing nonsense. This is what kills constructive criticism and moving forward with a better design, features, etc. The worst argument I've encountered in this forum is the "what I have is perfect; don't even think about suggesting something different than what I think, because it's clearly an attack on my $500 investment that I'm trying to justify with every drop of blood I have" mentality.

Do I wish that the casing is something different than a plastic (oh, sorry, polycarbonate)? Absolutely! Does it feel cheap and not worth $500? To many people, yes. Does it bother me? A little, but didn't prevent me from buying one. Is there an alternative to Note10.1 to replace it? Not at the moment. Therefore, I have one and I'm happy with the way it operates. It is fast, responsive and bug-free. However, let's not kid ourselves about the "premium" nature of the casing, please. Mine creaks at 3 different spots and it'll only get worse over time.

If Samsung comes out with a metal back on Note 10.1 II, you'll see all these fanboys switching camps in a second and cheering how Samsung made the right decision and how good it feels now, blah, blah, blah. There won't be even one of them saying "I'm boycotting Samsung over this decision and will never buy Note 10.1 II!!!!!".

Let's hope that we can continue this "is it worth buying" argument in a civilized manner to help any prospective buyers without acting like children on a play ground.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ngocdao:
I have an htc evo lte and a few drops has already made it look ugly as ffff. Guess how it feels like matters regardlesd how durable

we don't see things as they are; we see things as we are.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Here's the point. The iPad fanboys that come in here keep suggesting that their recommendation of a metal back is "constructive criticism", meaning that a metal back is somehow "better" and if Samsung gets that through their thick heads it will be a step in the right direction. What you don't seem to get is that many of us SGN10.1 owners actually prefer the polycarbonate back. A metal back would be a step in the wrong direction.

If a mere metal back is the deal breaker keeping you from the vast functional superiority of the SGN10.1 over an iPad then this probably is not the device for you. And BTW, doesn't any sane person put their tablet in a case anyway? Who cares what the back is made of?

If I could buy a tablet exactly like the SGN10.1 with a 1920 x 1200 HD screen that performed just as smoothly for $500 USD I would. Sadly it does not exist. Living in a world of reality instead of impossible hypotheticals and needing a tablet now as opposed to a year from now, I bought the SGN10.1.

If after all the reviews here regarding the vast functional superiority of the SGN10.1, you are still hung up on a metal back, by all means buy a tablet with a metal back.

Last question. Why is it that if someone disagrees with your iPad fanboyism, you consider their position "uncivilized"? You just come from the premise that the iPad is the best tablet ever created. Many of us here disagree enthusiastically.

As I said before, want a toy, buy an iPad, want help in the kitchen slicing cheese, buy an iPad. Want a true productivity tool, buy an SGN10.1.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Nefariouss:
Mitch I swear every time I read your posts I feel you've been watching Rocky and punching on slabs of beef.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dhd1802:
Do you actually read what other write? The people discussing the back / build quality are note owners.... You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with ipads and their owners.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
You have an opinion and that's cool. Sorry that your comments are being taken as an insult.

For me, I can't ever imagine saying that I like a tablet *because* it's heavier. I'm gonna say "I like this tablet because the software works, it's smooth and fast, etc.)" But, that's just me and I won't be changing my mind. I'll always buy something that performs well and works great right out of the box. If that's metal, I'm buying it. If that's plastic, polycarbonite, etc., I'm buying it. Now, I might not buy it if it's made out of cardboard. :) I'm also certain that I'm never buying Acer or Asus (that's based on all the comments in these forums from actual owners).

The metal/plastic things seems unimportant if you plan on keeping it in a case. It's completely covered; the issue goes away. I like the way the Note feels better without the case, but...I'm keeping mine in it's case. So...

It seems to me that you can only get what you can get for $500. :) Based on my experience with this $500 tablet, an iPad 3 would only be worth $350-$400 to me (even with the metal/aluminum backing and the retina display.) The same is true (for me) about the Asus TF700. With all those problems, I wouldn't want to pay more $350 (even with the aluminum backing and the 1920x1200 super IPS+ display). I mean, it's performance is going to be a source of daily frustration (to me) and I don't want to pay $500-$600 for that experience. And, I wouldn't buy an Asus even if they sold it to me at their cost.

This is just my opinion. Not asking anyone to agree or disagree. It seems OK to me if metal (or display resolution, etc.) is deal-breaker for someone else.

---------- Post added at 01:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:21 PM ----------

Yes. He's very passionate and focused. :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
I have no issue if people who own the SGN10.1 wish it had a metal back. It never will so the whole point is moot, but I digress. What I do take issue with is the insinuation that the SGN10.1 is of inferior build quality because it does not have a metal back.

IMHO, a metal back would have been the inferior choice. Samsung must be onto something since they are blowing Apple's doors off in sales with their inferior plastic phones.

As far as punching slabs of meat, that would be kind of fun :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] tenderidol:
You are operating on a "black or white" mode; there's no in between. To you, someone has to love this tablet without mentioning any drawbacks; otherwise, they should just sell it or never buy one. That's it; nothing in between. Just like in the Windows 8 tablet thread, you are not reading the post(s) fully and only picking up certain keywords that you think are negative towards your beloved tablet while ignoring any of the positive marks mentioned in the post. People are asking legitimate questions, and you are bashing them as fanboys, anti-SGN crowd, brainless iPad owners, etc. etc. To top it off, most of these people are SGN owners (5.3 and/or 10.1).

There is nothing wrong about being passionate about a product, as long as you respect the opinions of others. You and I both own the same tablet, but we are very different in terms of how we look at it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I think some of you guys are being a bit sensitive to some of the criticism. The Note's not perfect.

- I wish it did have a FHD display; especially at the high-end price point being charged. If Exynos Quad could have supported it Samsung probably would have provided it. The COG difference for the higher res display probably would have been $20-30.

- The pen's in a stupid place. Probably because the design of the Note was too far in when they added the pen slot. The Ativ's pen removes from the side which is a lot more logical when in a case or docked.

- The Note's an "OK" looking tablet but I wouldn't call it beautiful. It's pretty derivative and looks like a wider G-Tab 2. It would have been cool if they found a way to make it look a little more "special."

- The whole materials thing to me is way overblown. It's plastic, live with it (or choose not to). I have no reason to believe it'll be any less durable than any other Samsung devices which are also made from similar Samsung "signature" plastic. But Samsung proved they can do a really nice metal back when they want to. The G-Tab 7.7 is a beautiful piece of kit. But it is what it is and no amount of debate will change anything.

At the end of the day anything you purchase is based on the sum of its parts. None of the above (or some of the other things people have brought up) changes the way I feel about the Note 10.1. Until something based on Teg4, S4 Pro, or the Exynos 5250 hit the market the Note is the best performing Android tablet available; warts and all. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
They believe the outside material is a factor in determining their ultimate experience of quality. They will never perceive the Note as a superior product until Samsung makes those changes. That's just what they believe. You disagree with them. That's cool.

We all agree and disagree with each other on different matters. That's just because we all have different beliefs. Our differences make life fun and intersting.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Lol, wow.

Ok, lets bottom line this for everyone. Samsung uses plastic in their phones and tablets. They are selling the hell out of these devices. Apparently people like plastic phones. There is little to no chance Samsung will change what is clearly working. Saying we wish the SGN10.1 had a metal back is pointless. It simply is not going to happen. I can wish I had a garden in the desert but that doesn't mean it is going to rain.

For the 20th time, I don't care if you wish the SGN10.1 had a metal back. I do care about the implication that it is somehow of "inferior build" because it doesnt. This is a thread about whether someone should buy the SGN10.1. I am responding to the comments which have said, "it's a great tablet except for the inferior build quality". This statement works off the premise that "metal is better" as if this were some sort of universally accepted truth.

Metal is not better, it is just different. Many people prefer plastic. If you prefer metal over plastic that's fine, say so, but don't imply that it's being plastic makes it inferior.

And no, the SGN10.1 is not perfect, never said it was. What I did say that so few seem to be able to grasp is that pound for pound, dollar for dollar, it is the best bit of tech you can buy today if you are seeking a tablet productivity tool. So yes, if that is your goal, the Note 10.1 is worth buying.

** Notice this is not the "What I would change about the Note 10.1 if I could" thread, but please feel free to start one. It should be lively :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
Good idea. I started a thread.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mdalacu:
All the ones who prefer the metal back will always put a cover to protect that precious aluminium from scratching ! :eek:So, i love that plastic back which does not add additional weight and does not block radio waves! I also will put a cover on it. :cool:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dimdimdimdim:
I prefer plastic cover than metal on phone/tablet. When our device falling or something on hard surface, the vibration effect will absorb better by plastic element.

It good to prevent from hardware damage.

But some people would buy phone/tablet with metal cover just for "luxury" effect.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dhd1802:
Spot on! My next car will have a plastic chassis so if I crashed, it would be more protective than a metal chassis. boats, planes and bridges will also be made from plastic cause its tougher, more durable than metal.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] HasC:
Does that mean you will have metal air bags to cushion the blow?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dimdimdimdim:
I don't say that it's more tougher, more durable than metal.

I just say the vibration effect will better absorb by plastic element.

Can you get it?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ngocdao:
Cars and planes are made of metal because there are thousands of pounds of parts sitting on it.

When the day comes my note will transport me at 50mph then i want a metal frame.

For now, it sits on my table to take notes in lectures and drawing doodles, i dont see why it would need a metal body, or being waterproof, or whatever.

Youre dead in any plane if it crashes, plastic or metal.

we don't see things as they are; we see things as we are.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Lets create a freakish metal/plastic hybrid that is afraid of fire :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dhd1802:
so whats your preferred absorbsion method? a crack (plastic) or dent (metal)

if its build is perfect for you that's fine, but i would of preferred a more tougher material as i wont be just using it when sat on my couch! thats not a problem as i will put it in a case!

though should you drop it, which i hope you don't, and the plastic should crack... maybe then you will see why a devise that isn't just for use when your sat on the couch needs a tougher back /sides.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ngocdao:
Stop being a fatty and sitting on everything and problem solved. Your typical user doesnt sit on all of his electronics so uhh im sorry if samsung didnt consider this when they were designing the note.

we don't see things as they are; we see things as we are.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Every device Samsung launches gets panned by reviewers and a percentage of customers and potential customers because of the materials and aesthetics. Yet they sell gazillions and at a price premium to their competitors. I really don't like the design of the SGS3 so got aTeg3 One X instead because being a comparable device I had a choice. There's nothing like the Note out there feature wise (S-Pen) and performance wise (Exynos Quad/2GB of RAM). So to get those features the Note's pretty much it (for now). If a metal back cover or FHD display is a higher priority for some folks they'll be giving up what are (to me) the reasons the Note is such a stand out product. Since the Note doesn't have a metal back cover lamenting it's absence is sort of a futile exercise. As they say, "if the Queen had balls she'd be King."
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Nefariouss:
Reading comprehension fail? He said soley for sitting on the couch not he sits on his tablet.

But hey. You can fix fat, can't fix stupid.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
How about a different material: Lenovo just released a new thinkpad: X1 Carbon. The carbon material is as strong as aluminum with 1/3 the weight (so they say).

Gizmodo says: “If the MacBook Air is a porcelain doll, the X1 Carbon is a G.I. Joe strapped with Kevlar.”

There you go: Strong, yet light. Now, if it was just edible...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ngocdao:
Im surprised you could even read his post.

Then again, "soley"

But hey, dumb recognize dumb.

we don't see things as they are; we see things as we are.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
I like plastic. My girlfriend is plastic :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Nefariouss:
Got me. Proof read yours though.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ilostmypistons:
Well after all this metal vs plastic talk going on I took the covers off all the tabs in my house. We have a 2 Notes , iPad2, new iPad, Kindle Fire and a 7"GTab2. I have owned a Prime and a Infinity that I returned.

Verdict: The Note is by far the most comfortable tab to use for me. Strangely I prefer the 10"Note to the smaller tabs because it just feels good in the hands. The sides of the Note are just perfect.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xperiax10.awesome:
Guys,

Lets not discuss about build quality, wat more matters is PERFORMANCE, in my opinion galaxy note 10.1 is almost there in terms of performance, a bit laggy - may be Jelly Bean provide butter smoothness..

from xperia PLAY
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Nakel:
Oh, like the F-16, F-22 and Boieng 787?

Weight is not a factor with bridges, so making one out of plastic would be stupid. Where weight is a factor, metal is not the be all end all. If you don't like plastic, that's cool. But just assuming a metal back implies better build quality shows a complete lack of engineering knowledge. Nothing wrong with that, lots of people fall into that category. You prefer a metal back? Nothing wrong with that at all. Just understand that your preference has absolutely nothing to do with build quality. Or, maybe the three airplanes listed above are just crap. But wait, arent't they the two best fighters and the highest tech airliner on the planet? And what are 'Vette body panels made from? It hasn't been fiberglass since '83. What is it? Is it aluminium, or is it plastic?I could have sworn it wasn't metal... I'm so confused. :confused:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Metal air bags? Plastic bridges? Seriously?