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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whozamazinka:
So it appears that in the time it took me to compose a post, thread consensus has already determined that we were being trolled, which makes my post mush less relevant. I'll post it anyway though.... :-p

I do find it a little funny that in these types of exchanges (it seems to happen often on XDA) that folks are demanding some ‘common courtesy’ from devs, while simultaneously NOT exhibiting the same courtesy in their posts trash talking the dev for not having said courtesy.

A few things.

Yes, CNA did ‘disappear’ before for a period. So what? The thing that has been said many times before but that certain folks don’t get is that DEVS OWE US NOTHING. Not even common courtesy. (I’m not saying that CNA is lacking common courtesy, btw.) Sure, it would be nice. But if you don’t like the lack of it, you are free to take your device elsewhere. And yes, you are also free to express your opinion that you dislike their lack of courtesy. But if you trash-talk them, rather than being civilized about it, don’t go parading around like you are better than them, because now you are the one exhibiting a lack of common courtesy. Me, I’ll take the FREE offering I’m getting, and I’ll be thankful, even if I feel like a DEV isn’t courteous. And if I don’t particularly like a dev, I’ll just move on. Why trash talk them on their own thread? Besides, all that has really happened in this case is that CNA has fallen silent without explanation. As other people have mentioned, DEVs are real people with real lives, and they don’t ‘owe’ their ROM users anything.

Calling out other devs in a challenge: Have you read all of the back and forth, on twitter and the forums? CNA was not the only party at fault here. AND, CNA was only responding to being insulted first. Now, he may have been insulted first because he KANGed some stuff without giving credit….I don’t really know. But the point is, it was an argument between some DEVs who both felt like they were being disrespected, and the challenge was just one little part of it. In all the back and forth, I didn’t feel like CNA was being any more disrespectful than what was being dished out to him. So I’ll personally leave that argument between the devs, and not take a side, as the truth usually lies somewhere in the grey area in between. Also - if you notice the OP in this thread - credits are flying all over the place. I’ve never seen a credit page so long. So he’s obviously going to great lengths to credit his KANGs and/or collaborations.

Are we making excuses for the dev? No, because no excuse is necessary. No crime has been committed.

Thanks for the great ROM, CNA.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] withbloodskies:
Was just about to say that maz. A lot of credits are done throughout the entire OP. So if something happened back then maybe he learned from it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xI mEzMeRiZe Ix:
Sooooooooooooo does anyone else really like this ROM and not need an update every week? I prefer to have a mostly bugfree ROM than to be on the latest version of Android (4.1.1 to 4.1.2 isn't really a big deal). To the complainers, are there any features that you're missing out on? Do you pull out your phone and just tear up because there is some feature in 4.1.2 that you can't live without? My guess is no. Relax and be patient. Try going outside while you wait. There is a whole other world outside of XDA.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] billykxda:
Well put.

In fact, one of the things that's GREAT about CNA is that it's not being packed with every possible buggy feature with new releases every couple of days that are inevitably unstable. Leave that crap for the other ROM's.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sledge3n8:
LONG LIVE CN(A)!!!!! THANKS FOR THE BEST ROM MONEY CAN'T BUY! Screw the trolls!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonstrong:
This. +1 ^^^^^

As you might guess, I agree wholeheartedly. It's been a few days...my phone is running GREAT on the 10/06 nightly with leanKernel 4.4.0 exp3. Truly a great experience: smooth / buttery, great battery life, great features. It...just...works.

Absolutely true: time to go outside, catch a bit of sunlight, take in a movie. Go on a date (or if married, take your wife out!). Fun to flash updates, but this has the danger of turning into something like an opium den, with folks just hanging on, pressing F5, and wasting a few minutes in between attempts to see if the next version is ready yet. Been there, done that. But for now - my GNex is the bees knees, and I'm gonna go out and have me some fun, and maybe check in later to see if there's anything new in CNA world. If not -- I'll STILL keep the best ROM out there on my GNex, and go have some more fun.

When the next release is ready, it will be ready. Meantime - I'll get back to the outside world for a while... :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Citizen_Snips:
Lol yo the hell with outside. It's raining cats and dogs! I think I'll just keep playing around with DarkPA.

God I wish I could dual boot JB ROMs. Boot Manager doesn't work with JB and dev for it seems to have stopped. :(

There has to be another way... I love CNA and DarkPA evenly. Wish I could switch between them on a reboot instead of restoring a backup. :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vick1377:
Is anyone battery drains due to WiFi? See the screen shots from better battery stats it shows that my WiFi was on 8 hours where as it connected to it for only an hour or so. My battery on WiFi idle overnight drops 25-30% which I never saw with previous ROM. It could be me too:). When I find some more I will post here.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DevinLeFevere:
Haha, I'm doing the exact same thing. Just killing time for 3.7. DarkPA is pretty nice though. Not sure why 2.2.3 is newer than 2.3 though :cyclops:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xHausx:
I'm really confused by this type of attitude, no one here is obligated to do anything for you. I suggest you read this post here, and any more irrelevant posts that deter from development here will be handled appropriately.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shanp7780:
well said sir!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DevinLeFevere:
Ban that clown.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gnexdude:
LMAO man, that was great...

CNA is the sh*t, give the guy a break and F**k the trolls!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DevinLeFevere:
I kind of like the waiting game... It gives me some needed excitement thru out my day :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pulser_g2:
Oh I see the old "entitlement" thing rearing its ugly head again...

It's likely just one or two people with too much time on their hands since it's a Friday and they have nothing better to do than troll around an online forum... In case it's not, and you are tempted to make some *****y post claiming you're entitled to something from any given developer (which you're not), please knock it off...

To those who feel they are entitled to something, bear in mind you have paid nothing directly in exchange for a ROM. As such you have no expectations beyond those which you have self-imposed unilaterally.

If you don't like it, stick to stock... And enjoy your unmodified Google experience... And whinge to Google, and see how long they put up with you!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RyanTX:
Its a freaking cell phone. Everyone calm down. It'll happen when it happens.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] serx7:
From what your battery graph is showing, it was on cellular with so-so signal strength, and in that scenario I could def see the battery draining down like that over an 8 hr period of time. Try changing your wifi / advanced / keep wifi on during sleep = Always and see if that helps.

With the keep wifi on during sleep = never/only when plugged in, I was seeing 6%/hr idle battery drain w/ the phone waking up over and over throughout the night. as soon as I changed keep wifi on during sleep = always, the idle battery drain went to just 1.5%/hr.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] icon123:
The haters are just jealous. If you have ran this ROM, you know, there is no other comparisons. It's that good. I have ran a lot of different ROMs and there's nothing close. Keep up the great work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whozamazinka:
Ok...so it sounds like we're all in agreement. This ROM rocks, 99.99% of us aren't entitled children and don't mind waiting, and trolls suck.

Case closed.

On a different matter....I was running 3.5 with lean kernel and it was the dogs bollocks. Good battery life, smooth, fast, etc. I clean flashed 3.6, and had battery issues (most likely because I restored a system app....stupid me), so I went back to my 3.5 nandroid. Since then I've just been 'hanging around outside with family and friends' (as someone else in the thread put it) rather than building and rebuilding my phone.

Everyone seems to be saying that 3.6.6 is also the dogs bollocks, as is the latest nightly. (10/6, I believe?) So, my question is, move to 3.6.6, latest nightly, or just stay where I am?

I know it is a very subjective answer, but hey...give it your best shot.

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aggrophobik:
3.6.6 & Lean exp3 here. Nomz.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CaponeG803:
For all the clowns who enjoy flashing crappy ROMs quit trolling and go flash some other garbage. CNA is the best ROM I've flashed in quite some time so I don't mind waiting on a bug free release. If you want a ROM full of bugs or other miscues, go else where otherwise shut up and be patient. Beggars can't be choosers...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Citizen_Snips:
Well. Let's see. I've been on every CNA since he came back so like 3.2 I think? Go with the 10/06 nightly. Transparent nav and status bar :). It can be a little buggy here and there but its the same on all ROMs that I've tried. Overall stable and great. The only reason I left CNA was for a little taste of 4.1.2 (CM, Muzzy's ROM & DarkPA were updated first I believe) so I flashed DarkPA. Also because I love tablet mode so much. But 10/06 nightly for sure. I didn't notice any instability and had great battery with Franco's kernel. :0
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mcp770:
Wow, see what idle time does to weak minds? Sad really. My advice to everyone its unless there is productive rom related talk simply move on until next release is posted. Do a clean install of 3 6 6 if you're bored but damn be happy with your free **** or build it yourself.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RonnieRuff:
There is a difference between selfish people and fans. In the end devs go because the just don't want to do it anymore. Life is short.. don't get to cranked up about ROMs

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] youngmack2k4:
I have a feeling 3.8.0 release is imminent

right around the corner.....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreitzell78:
3.8 is listed in goo. Just in case anyone was interested. I hope everyone can be civil. This is supposed to be fun. Enjoy it!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Citizen_Snips:
Downloading CNA 3.8! Thank you CodeName. Don't sweat the haters. But yeah 3.8 is up now. Enjoy it:)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DadamsJR:
Heck ya!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kenjiwing:
installing 3.8 now thanks for the heads up guys
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sledge3n8:
Well said! Unfortunately this is what I end up having to read and deal with all so often in forums. What Pulser said, shouldn't have to be said in the first place because this is a forum for development and help...not opinions. We all give our opinions at times, but there is a time and a place for it. I have been a part of this forum since the beginning. I have read every single page and it was civilized for a long time!

Let's please ignore the trolls and they'll go away. Those of us who are true fans of CN(A)'s work...just ignore the instigators and keep this forum clean and on topic.

Yes, I brought up NFL the other day, which was off topic, but things had been silent forum-wise for several days. I was just adding a short term topic to keep the forum rolling besides the recent, "OH NO! Codename ****** us! He owes us.....................uh, nothing!"

Be Cool! Be Patient!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Citizen_Snips:
OK seriously can we all stop replying to the trolling earlier lol? Go play with 3.8 and report back!! Sick so far y'all
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sledge3n8:
Sounds like a great idea!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Gja88:
For gapps can I use the 10/11 ones from cm10 or are the ones on goo the recommended ones for this ROM?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vick1377:
Cool. Will try that tonight. That is gotta be it. Thank you so much. Let me give it a shot again
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonstrong:
3.8 (toro) installed and beautiful! Exploring some of the new features -- very very nice, and incredibly responsive / buttery. Sweet!

Re: GApps -- CNA put together a new package -- single one this time. He'll be providing an extra zip that will let you swap in the Picasa sync vs. non-sync versions of gallery / camera. GApps package on goo.im under CNA's dev section, along with the ROM versions. Nexus 7 not uploaded yet I believe - if not there yet, it will be tomorrow.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Citizen_Snips:
I used the new gapps. I can't find the site I downloaded them from. Someone posted them on the CNA forum shoutbox earlier.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonstrong:
Here it is:

http://goo.im/devs/codenamedroid/googleapps

The new version has today's date on the file.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DanCran:
Not liking the toggles... CM10 toggles looked way better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rlivin:
I know i am overlooking it but where is the option to move the brightness slider above the toggles?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kidd_Funkadelic:
For what it's worth, despite CNA suggesting otherwise, I did a dirty install of 3.8.0 over 3.6.5 (with Franco) and so far no issues at all. I figured why not see how it goes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mike216:
Clean flash and it's hands down the fastest rom I've ever ran!

Sent from my OGparanoid CM D2tmo
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xdapadogx:
Waits over, it's the take over. I was just about to turn that ps3 on too. That crap can wait
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] boyer61:
I clean flashed and ive gotten 2 reboots in the past 10 minutes trying to re install my apps..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] npainter7:
Clean install and my goodness. Buttery smoothness all over the place and super fast. No doubt the best ROM out there for the gnex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] unseenvision:
Noooooooo..!!! Where did the CM toggles go? I can't stand AOKP toggles. They look horrible. Am I missing the cm option somewhere...? I love codename, but I'm going to have to abandon it or go back to 3.6.6. if they were removed. This was (seriously) one of my main deciding factors when I decided to start using codename.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mike216:
+1 cm toggles are way better. The set up in 3.6.6 was fine he had both and pleased both fans. I'm grateful but making a little noise in case CNA is listening
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] parkson:
LTE toggle seems to be missing. Is this intentional? I miss it :(

Also, what's the 2G toggle for? Useless for Toro...?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fcisco13:
Yup lock toggle gone too, back to liquid...was really liking this...

WHATCHOO TALKING BOUT WILLIS?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eleer:
No 4G toggle is a catastrophic deal breaker regardless of what toggles are used.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] icon123:
Same here. Really sucks. Love the ROM but not the toggles. Not only do the cm ones look better but there's no auto brightness or lte.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] billykxda:
7.8 is the best ROM available now by a long-shot.

Amazing performance and the best battery life during idle time that I've seen in almost a year of GNex ownership.

Noticed the lack of 4G toggle, but I've never used it anyway.

Fast, smooth, stable (so far!) and very cool features.

If you like it, make sure to vote with the "Donate" button!

We need to keep this going!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hogowner:
As far as 4g toggle...can't you go into settings...go to mobile networks..and turn it off there..choose CDMA? Instead of CDMA LTE

Sent from my "BLAZING" Verizon 4g Nexus!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fcisco13:
Sure you can, i can also go to settings/security/screen lock/draw my pattern then select none, and vice versa when i get to work to lock my phone but that's the whole point of toggles just one click.

WHATCHOO TALKING BOUT WILLIS?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LauraSakura:
hate these toggles. They are too big and off centered, for one thing. Lack of toggles for LTE and lockscreen are problems for me. A bit torn, might go back to 3.6.6.. I'm a really heavy use of the toggles.

VZW GNex-Codename(Android) 3.8
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] npainter7:
Sheesh what a bunch of whiners! If you don't like what came with the update, just state the things you aren't crazy about and ask if something could be done about it...instead of crying and complaining about toggles....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LauraSakura:
I was just stating that I will need to stay on 3.6.6 for the time being because of the toggles. Some of us rely a lot on the toggles and in 3.8 many of the important toggles are missing. Apparently many others feel the same way. One of the things that I most love about cna is having the combination of CM10 toggles alongside the AOKP brightness slider.

VZW GNex-Codename(Android) 3.6.6
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stormyq:
To each his own I guess. I love the holo button toggles. Sure I'd like to have the 4G one still but not a big deal. Still the best gnex ROM out there! Thanks CNA.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eleer:
I agree. Love the holo toggles as well as the new circle battery. Going to really miss the 4G toggle, though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sefirosu0522:
Running great so far. Just have to ask though, yahoo weather? Any way to incorporate the option of choosing something else in the future?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ajj915:
The loss of the cm style toggles is a real bummer. Love them because they take up less space.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zomb!e:
Really wish the CM toggles were still there. They look a lot better.

Great job on the rom CNA.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thesaint90304:
Flashed 3.8 last night. And I have an unexpected increase in 4G signal in areas where it was not available. (inside my office). I now the radio has not change, but I'm digging it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lippstuh:
LOL @ people complaining about the developer.

Flashed 3.8 awesome so far. i do miss cm10's toggles i'm sure they'll be back soon
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] philsfan:
can anyone tell me if 3.8 have the theme-able MMS options??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DevinLeFevere:
This.... is... AWESOME. All I was hoping for. Thanks so much CNA! Worth the wait for sure. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xI mEzMeRiZe Ix:
From the sound of his G+ post, the new toggles are here to stay and they will be all be works on in terms of toggles.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DevinLeFevere:
Sadly enough it does not. You could always snag it from Dark PA and copy it to system.apps.. which is probably what I will do.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] philsfan:
That's likely what I'll do, but then we'd be missing out on group MMS which I don't think is incorporated in Dark PA
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DevinLeFevere:
It is not haha. I'm sure there has to be the "perfect" stock mms.apk out there somewhere??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LauraSakura:
I'm ok with that as long as the missing toggles can get incorporated into this new system

VZW GNex-Codename(Android) 3.6.6
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] philsfan:
I know the devs of Sourcery are working on it for their next release...group MMS plus theme-able MMS = perfect MMS
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DevinLeFevere:
I may go ahead and try JB then. Do they use the normal Emojicons!? I hate the ones that were replaced with half android ones. Impossible to even tell a difference between them unless you want to sit and stare at each one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jpen:
I see in the OP that in the nav bar there is a gmail icon. How do you get an icon image there? I try and it goes there but it is the color of the other buttons.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xI mEzMeRiZe Ix:
I really prefer the minimalism of the CM toggles. If he can recreate that and add the missing toggles, I'll be happy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] philsfan:
lol, i hate them too. And yes, Sourcery uses the standard/normal/non-android emoji's. and theme-able MMS (just like Dark PA).

i'm waiting until there next release though which should have group MMS as well.

don't mean to talk about another ROM in this thread though, CNA is amazing, and if it had the theme-ing engine for MMS it would be my daily for sure.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Gja88:
Agree. I hate the android emojis. Anyone know how to make them regular?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bangdrum:
Change the nav color to all zeros.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sefirosu0522:
So has this happened to anyone yet? I hit the power button and the screen didn't come on. Tried a few times and no luck. I plugged the phone in and it came on. Took about 30 seconds to unlock and then it just froze. This never happened on other roms. Any ideas?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonstrong:
Maybe try fixing permissions, clearing cache and Dalvik cache...

Sent from a Galaxy Nexus far far away...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sefirosu0522:
Thanks. I'll give it a shot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotrodwinston:
semi dirty flashed (wiped everything except data) noticed battery drain trying clean flash will report back
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] philsfan:
this is a kernel related issue, has nothing to do with fixing permissions.

you'll have to do a battery pull. if it continues, flash another kernel. Trinity or Franco work great and are my personal favorites.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yellowfinii:
same thing happened to me, had to pull batt,
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jekern77:
Anyone else missing the 4G toggle that was there in 3.6.6?

Any suggestions for a widget or something to make switching it on/off one click like that toggle was?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fcisco13:
Yeah everyone who updated is missing it.

WHATCHOO TALKING BOUT WILLIS?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] unseenvision:
I'm surprised how many people use a 4g toggle. I'm curious, in what situations do people use it? I've never had to switch on/off 4g for any reason. Am I missing some special secret to this?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bigbear6708:
I don't get it either...the data toggle works just fine, i guess if you want data enabled all the time 3g is better on battery...so they can toggle 4g on when appropriate
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xI mEzMeRiZe Ix:
You don't get it, yet you explain exactly why people use it ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] donnyp1:
Lol, what you said he said. And its a HUGE difference on battery. You would be amazed at how much battery you can save by using 4g for only video or downloads, 3g for web browsing, and turning data off when not using it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] natezire71:
Those toggles need more work. Lots of graphical glitches and stuff. I'm not hating. Just suggesting.

Other than that, solid as every previous build.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] unseenvision:
Seems reasonable. I'll have to give it a try. Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Anyone dirty flash 3.8 over 3.6.6? If so.....how is it working so far?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tkc11409:
I have heard that dirty flashing is a no go on this one, since its updating from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rockingondrums:
I dirty flashed and have yet to experience a problem. And my phone is ever-so-slightly messed up (always thinks I'm charging, needs to be warrantied...). I just flashed 3.8 over, the new Gapps, wiped cache and dalvik cache, rebooted. It was very sluggish when it first booted up. Left it alone-ish. It's fine now. Have gone on to flash the NexusLouder mod and Gradient Fix (that I always reflash after ROM update). Seems to be fine.

Can't speak about battery drain, bc my hardware damaged phone drains battery like a mofo anyway. That's why I haven't even tried new kernels yet. On a side note, the numerous threads on kernels have an overwhelming amount of info so I'll just try all the popular ones out once I get this phone replaced.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DadamsJR:
What kernel are you guys using?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonstrong:
leanKernel 4.4.0 exp3, 230 -- very nice with 3.8
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] revolt1:
where would the option to change toggle color at can't find it. 3.8
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tdubl:
Trinity alpha 67 runs good, just switched to Franco milestone 6 and seems a BT better on battery so far