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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] leepriestenator:
Ok guys, I think this has gotten a little out of hand.

You cannot attack people for their personal preferences.

We get it. Some of you love your Polycarbonate. Does that mean everyone else has to? I've been monitoring most of these threads and almost everywhere I see some members are getting very agressive and rowdy when someone even mentions that they would have liked things a little different. We don't tolerate that at XDA and BTW this is NOT YOUR FORUM!

Don't make this personal. This is not a playground and we don't tolerate bullies here with the "This is my turf" attitude.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Some of you are completely hung up on plastic vs. metal which isn't even what most people are talking about. I never once mentioned the word "metal" in my post. The One X is also made of PC yet it feels so much more superior "in my opinion" to the competing Samsung phones. That's all we're saying; please make it feel better. If you're already satisfied with it, then ok! No one is attacking you for liking it which could be just as easy.

A lot of people consider Samsung devices flimsy. It's everywhere for everyone to see, yet they outsell everyone else because at the core they make amazing devices. Everyone knows that, but like many here have said, that does not mean they are perfect. Everyone is going to want something more and that's not for someone else to put down.

If you disagree, say so without making it personal or getting agressive. There are lots of members here who have different view points but they are still civil with each other.

My fanboy comment was only in response to some immediate comments that I got that were trying to null my opinion by creating an environment of "If you don't agree with us, then get out" without really understanding what I was trying to convey. I surely didn't mean that for everyone else and I completely respect your comments on the matter and appreciate the way you communicated it.

So please, let's stop with this and get on with the purpose of the thread. It seems my post derailed it a bit but I was just sounding off my dissatisfaction about one small thing to my peers about a device that I very much am in awe of as well. If we can't share this stuff amongst ourselves at the 10.1 forums, then whom else can we do it with?

I hope we can get back on topic fellas, before the Ban Hammer gets out :angel:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Lee,

Dude I have no idea what you are talking about. The issue from the start has been some people stating that the SGN10.1 is of "inferior build" due to being made of pc instead if metal. As far as "turf wars" are concerned, you simply do not come into a device's thread and proclaim it of "inferior quality" unless you are itching for an argument. It's like going to an opposing school's stadium and yelling "your team sucks!".

As far as people "bullying you" you honestly need to learn the difference between bullying and vigorous debate. I've been around xda long enough to know a flame war when I see one and this thread is nowhere close to a flame war. I just don't think you like being disagreed with.

That being said, the PC vs METAL debate has likely run its course - it's all been said and it's getting a bit boring. It is clear that metal is not inherently a sign of better quality than pc. In many ways users here consider metal to be the inferior choice.

Xda doesn't ban users for disagreeing with you.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] darkwolfelite:
"Xda doesn't ban users for disagreeing with you". :D

Only thing I will say about metal vs polycarbonate is that it's silly. I understand someone wanting a certain (feel) from a device, but to say metal is better than polycarbonate or that its the strongest apparently doesn't know that spider silk is stronger than steel, so yeah..:good:

And I'm not saying either one is better.

Technically, spider dragline silk is five times as strong as steel.

It's not the same silk as you find in a tie - it's much stronger and much more elastic than the standard silk you get from a silkworm.

Now I know this debate has nothing to do with spider silk. Just saying there are things out there stronger than metal that is a fabric and some forms of plastic.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-3445_162-7257670.html:p
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jaydubbbbs:
Since the thread is asking whether the note is worth buying, whether you like the back out not, I wonder how many people have been dissuaded to buy based on the the back? We all have different preferences , and prioritize features differently. I think that is why many of us enjoy the variety of android. If we don't like a product, there are alternatives unlike on iOS. If the choice off back materials is the biggest disagreement amongst owners, i think it bodes well for the device. And spirited debate is not the worst thing ,shows we all care.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
The whole "what is it made of" question is actually kind of silly. I mean most of us put our tablets in a case don't we?

I can see being unhappy about the screen resolution but the obsession about what the back is made of is lost on me. As much as I like this tablet, when and if a true HD screen version that works just as well comes out I'll be first in line to buy it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Initially I was put off by the backing because everywhere it was stated as "plastic". After learning about polycarbonate and it's impact resistance I was fine. My Note is solid, and I have already dropped it twice with no damage to screen or case. Very satisfied in that regard. My Note also just works. Period. No issues, very fast, great sound, stylus works perfectly. It does what it's advertised to flawlessly and effortlessly, much like my other Sammy devices.

I'm not a Samsung loyalist, but it is nice to feel comfortable buying their products, because they always just work.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ngocdao:
Thanks for testing it out for us :D

sent from the iPhone's pimp, dont make me have to slap a B
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] darkwolfelite:
Yes! This tab is super fast and works great right out of the box..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Nice skin. Link us please.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] tonyz3:
check out skinomi.com i have the brushed steel and it looks great. tab still fits in my case. best of all it gives the tab back some extra stability and no creek.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] darkwolfelite:
Hey mitchellvii . tonyz is spot on. It's from Skinomi. Although I only used the back one. It also comes with a screen protector which I didn't use because i am unsure how it will be with spen. And it comes with stuff for the front and sides. But the top ones are clearly for the one that has a sim card slot I think. They have brushed steel, wood grain and black/white carbon fiber

http://www.amazon.com/Skinomi-TechSkin-Protector-Protective-Lifetime/dp/B008Z1LRRG/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1347547078&sr=1-2&keywords=skinomi+for+samsung+galaxy+note+10.1
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Thanks for the link. My Note is happily ensconced in this most excellent case so I don't need it but I asked for the sake of others. The best part about this case is the insert part comes out so you can carry it around with your Note protected without carrying the whole case. Also, if you wish to charge the tablet while in the case, simply flip it around 180 degrees and the plug is at the top. For $18 the quality is astounding.

* I'd have thanked you but already used mine up for the day :)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008L33VPY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] darkwolfelite:
I like that case mitch. I really wish otterbox had a case. I know it can make things big and bulky but it also makes things a brick $h1t house
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
One thing you have to take into consideration when looking at cases for a 10.1 device is how large the case will make the tablet when being held in one's hands. Unless you have really long thumbs, too big of a case can make thumb typing a challenge. That's why I opted for a case with a removable insert. Plus the back of that insert is soft gray felt so it it quite comfortable to hold and won't slip out of your hands.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Here's my whole setup using my case, Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse and Samsung USB Adapter with Wireless Dongle. Works like a charm. The second image shows how easy it is to remove the insert. The last image shows the soft comfy backing of the insert.

As long as you have already synced the keyboard and mouse with the wireless dongle on a PC first, it will work fine on your tablet. No need to install any software, just plug it in and it goes. Bestbuy is carrying the Samsung USB Adapter in their stores for $20 USD.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] darkwolfelite:
nice!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Tubgirl:
Would I have preferred the build quality of my N8000 to be the same as the iPad...? YES I WOULD!

I love the build quality of iProducts but when you look closer at what they can do (or actually what they CAN'T do) then iStuff is just not for me.

My N8000 is responsive and the screen looks nice (although it's a fingerprint magnet) and the front facing stereo speakers are much appreciated. I use a Gimmick Five case which makes it look pretty slick. I like the possibility being able to use the s-pen even though in reality I haven't used it much yet which after a year with my Note 5.3 is the same, haven't been using the pen a lot but it feels nice having it somehow.

Would I trade my Galaxy Note 10.1 for any other tablet in the world...? NO I WOULD NOT!!

Brgds... /Tubgirl
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mobamoba:
Dunno if this will help anyone, but I have the Asus TF700 and I'm returning it for the Note. They were next to each other in Best Buy and, honestly, holding them side-by-side the differences in the screen were really subtle; I didn't watch a movie, but for normal apps, you really had to stare to try to find a difference. The Note had a slightly "bluer" light I guess. At any rate, I ended up purchasing the Asus because it offered better hardware for the money (though really a 16gb Micro SD card is only $9.00 on Amazon so upgrading the Samsung's storage to match the Asus isn't really that expensive). However, I'm returning it and swapping it for the Note for a few reasons:

First, I use my tablet as an ebook reader, and the thin metal edge of the Asus winds up grinding into my palm after a while - I know people have criticized the cheap plastic of the Note but for long periods, I think plastic is more comfortable than metal.

Second, at first I didn't think I'd care about the single speaker on the back, but it totally sucks, because, in addition to the obvious music/movie sound issues, it muffles calls if you're using Skype or VOIP.

Third, I got kind of nervous about all the hardware issues; mine was 100% okay but I kept worrying that some future upgrade would break it. Fourth, the Device Tracker thing (if you don't know Google it - Asus apparently tracks your tablet and stores information (or not - they won't say)). As far as I know, Samsung isn't tracking your device.

Fifth, while Asus has a note-taking feature (you scribble with your finger on the screen), it doesn't have any handwriting-to-text software so you're just stuck with your scribbled images instead of actual searchable notes.

Sixth, I know that the Samsung apparently takes forever to charge, but I really wanted a dual-usb charger (so I could charge both my tablet and phone at the same time) and that was impossible to find for the Asus because of its 15V output requirement. I'd always rather have one charger than two so for me the Samsung is better in that regard.

Seventh, any hardware differences aside, Samsung is a much more widely known company than Asus meaning more people are buying it meaning more devs on this board interested in tweaking it - if you compare the development sections of both board, there are more devs here than there.

I'm not dissing the Asus here, but after having had it for a week, its disadvantages to me outweigh its advantages which is why I'm swapping it for the Note.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
:laugh:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jayjay*:
I currently work in a University in the UK and im using my note for day to day design work, meeting and email etc. This is the perfect tablet for students too, its that good ive ditched my notepad and pen.... I did have the galaxy 10.1 before this so its a good step up
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ziprar:
So, my note arrived yesterday and it's awesome :D, the screen is beautiful, way better than my laptop screen, the built quality is ok, it's plastic but it doesn't flex or anything, very solid, also it doesn't really make a squeaking noise that some video reviews have reported.

The tablet is very snappy there is virtually no lag , threw random 720p mkv h264 file and it played ok, then installed b.s. player it worked flawlessly, no sync issues, no lag no stuttering.

Also the spen is quite decent, I am currently using it to type this message, and nearly everything I do, I do it with the pen.

I tried the snote app but didn't really use it, it seemed ok, through the sketch book pro with pressure sensitivity is awesome

To summarise this is an awesome tablet, cons would be that stock browser while really fast is lacking features, and I really hope that predictive text sorts it self out :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mi7chy:
When you decide not to be so ignorant look up the material used for Boeing 777 Dreamliner, formula 1 race cars, triathlon bicycles, etc.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dhd1802:
I found no reference to them being made of PLASTIC. When I say PLASTIC in ENGLISH, that translates to PLASTIC in ENGLISH... not carbon fibre, composite material, fibre glass. ffs learn to read!!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Guys take your personal squabbles over nomenclature to private messaging please. You are boring the rest of us.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xperiax10.awesome:
Guys lets not discuss n argue over plastic or polycarbonate, before buying use in Store and if you didnt like the material simply DO NOT BUY...dont spam here

sent from the "BE"a"ST" Galaxy S3
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dhd1802:
it doesn't bother me that it has a cheap plastic feel / look, after all i have bought one. i didnt buy it as a status symbol ala ipad. i expect their more premium tablets to have a more robust back / corners though. not spam, just opinions
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SM05:
Someone else expressing an opinion different from yours is not spamming. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
I'm thinking someone should take a poll about the metal - plastic. If the response to metal is high enough, maybe Samsung would create an additional model. It sounds like having both plastic & metal would help sales. Even if it costs more and was special order. The Note is an awesome device,. Seems like it's worth offering some customizations. Can't say that about anything else I've looked at. Most of the other tabs seem more like toys.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
If you were the #1 smartphone maker in the world and you were known for super lightweight, powerful devices with plastic exteriors, would you change? No, you want Samsung, you get plastic.

Since I have mine in a gorgeous leather case anyway, I could care less.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
If I were Samsung, I would like to get as many iPad users as I can to stop buying those iPads. If iPad people want some kind of metal, I'll give them metal and charge them $50-$100 more. They obviously like paying more and I would be most open to letting them do so. I might even come up a designer edition with all new connectors so they can give me the extra money that they love to spend on the truly unnecessary. But, it would an addition to the product line, not a replacement.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
iPad users don't buy iPad's because of the metal back. They buy them because they tend to be non-technical people who just want a pretty magic box that works. Android devices appeal more to people who want to customize their own experience. Unfortunately for us, idiots are in the majority :)

Remember we live in a world where "Honey Boo Boo" is one of the most popular shows on TV.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] blopez24:
Funny you say that when I went today to best buy to buy my note 10.1 I heard a ladu say I want an ipad cause I heard its better than android.

Sent from my LG-P930
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Assuming she is technically illiterate then yes, for her iPad is better. I doubt she gives a damn about what the back is made of :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Nakel:
That's absolutely true. But does it have to be? Once setup, an Android is just as easy to use as an iPad. We all know that with proper development an Android device can be easier to use than an Apple device. Why doesn't Samsung take advantage of that? Rather than having a whole bunch of widgets that you have to delete, why not have a set up the asks what you will use the device for when you first start it? If you will just be using the tablet for email and web browsing, it could then download a theme that addresses those uses perfectly. It just seems to me that with minimal effort samsung could take away the ease of use advantage from apple.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
Sounds good.

I don't understand why people are saying Android is not as easy as Apple. This was my first mobile device (I don't even have a Smartphone.) Before I used the Note, I picked up my sister's iPad. They are both very similar in terms of simplicity. They seem equal to me. ln fact, I found some things much more quickly on the Note. The status bar at the bottom is very helpful. On the iPad, it took me much longer to find things like Settings, open Apps, etc,

Maybe previous versions of Android weren't this simple?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jaydubbbbs:
As silly as i find the Apple stores, i think that having a plethora of Apple people explaining the devices makes people feel comfortable with the tech. Try going into other stores and get some info on android tablets. When i got my note, they hadn't heard of it and didn't know they had them. I had to explain it to them. Until android manufactures either open stores or have people hanging out at best buy or wherever, the marketing battle is uphill.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dxwilliams40:
Just ordered my Note. I wanted it on the release date, but I jumped on the asus tf300. Totally satisfied with the 300, but I couldn't pass on the note. Thought about waiting on the note 2 to replace my Skyrocket, but I'm still 10 months away from an available upgrade. If you are comfortable with the android platform, then there is nothing really that persuasive about the Ipad or Iphone. I have an Ipad that was provided to me from my job, but it gets very little use since I can't modify it like my android devices.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
[Hangs head in shame.]
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Biohazard0289:
I decided to humor the Best Buy rep while buying my Note 10.1 today. I was informed that the screen lifting on all the Asus display units is "Normal for a tablet", and that the 700 already had Android 5.0 Jellybeans.

I walked up to the Note, he then explained it was "underpowered" with some off brand dual core processor that he'd never heard of and I was only really paying for the S-Pen "thing". So I tapped around on the Infinity while he grabbed the Note for me, and was approached by the Toshiba rep who explained that the Exite 10 was the best tablet in the store, and that she felt I was wasting my money.

It wouldn't be so bad if anyone had a clue what they were selling.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ngocdao:
Just got a $200 employee rebate from samsung for my sgnote. (On top my discount)

Made me even happier that i got a note!!!

Woot

sent from the iPhone's pimp, dont make me have to slap a B

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lol if you were so well informed..why waste any time with any rep?

The tablets are right under the table. Grab one and go.

sent from the iPhone's pimp, dont make me have to slap a B
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Because it's really fun to see just how clueless they are, and to screw with them a bit. I use BB as a place to see and test devices, but never for info from reps or buying. :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dr.m0x:
LOL. Aperson after My ownheart! It also amuses me greatlyto walk intoa local chain store or two and pretend I'm just a "normal" shopper and not a technology buff and Android nerd. Its always interesting to see what kind of ignorance is on display. OccasionallyI I'm pleasantly surprised to meet a well informed and unbiased rep, but mostly disappointed. For example if you express an interest in buying a tablet my will usually try and show you an iPad first up.

However there does seemto be a bit of interest - in the note 10.1 this time around. Samsung are advertising it heavily here in New Zealand, and them does seem to be a bit of interest from the average punter.

It gives me hope - for the first time there is good hype around a tablet which isn't an iPad.

With good reason too, the note 10.1 has good hardware and can also do things the iPad simply can't.

Had mine only a few hours but I can already see its the first Of the seven Android tablets I've owned that I may actually find useful. Every one prior to this point has been a fun toy but this one I can actually think ot practical uses for.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Biohazard0289:
At my local Best Buy the tablets are held above the sales floor on the back wall, so I have to speak with someone. I knew what I wanted when I walked in, but sometimes reps can have more information about the product.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Yes, but usually erroneous info. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mi7chy:
I like versatility, convergence of features and devices into one and the idea of a low power desktop PC replacement for general computing. I've been on the side line as I view the traditional tablet such as the iPad overpriced and limited for what it can do. Almost bought the Transformer Infinity with keyboard dock and extended battery life but when the Galaxy Note 10.1 was released it was clear that's what I wanted. It takes the convergence of the phone, tablet, GPS, camera, cam corder, game console, personal music/video player, etc. to another level by adding a proper digitizer pen with palm rejection for paperless productivity and creativity.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Would I prefer the Note have an HD screen. Yes. But would it perform at the same level? Probably not based upon the comments regarding lag on the Infinity. Would I trade that performance for a slightly better display? No.

I'd never buy an iPad out of principal. I cannot support a company who tries to compete in the courtroom when they cannot win in the court of public opinion. When they start claiming they have a patent on the rectangle I draw the line.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xperiax10.awesome:
Guys,

What about flickering screen issue which is with most of the android tablets?

from xperia PLAY
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] errorstribe:
coming from htc flyer

I upgraded from the htc flyer and so far the note has been a 100% upgrade I love the s-pen compared the flyer's stylus it's much quieter while writing

Well worth the money and wait and I love the larger screen
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] donharden2002:
I took mine back today. I actually thought the screen was horrible. Seemed far more pixelated than my og gtab 10.1.

Im going to wait for samsung to bring a high res tab or see if google brings a 10" tab to market. Just my thoughts on the note 10.1.

I tried the infinity but the sound output was horrible, the note has great output thru my klipsch s4 buds. But I just couldnt stop looking at the pixels.