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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
Privacy is an illusion. You shouldnt be putting confidential things on a smartphone.

What you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with a ROM

. Look at an apps permissions. If you dont agree with them, dont install it
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SquallLHeart:
Android is pretty much Google.. if you want to remove everything Google.. buy a phone without Android..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
Open source doesn't mean no privacy. It means others can openly use and edit the code basically.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bird11:
It's not installable apps I am worried about. Also you don't neccesarily need to even put anything on a phone for it to be a privacy risk. You say it's an illusion but that's a false dichotomy. There certainly are ways where privacy does not need to be an illusion.

I don't really understand what you are trying to make. Possibly you don't understand. I am saying android being open source lends itself to privacy. Something like OSX could be doing all sorts of spying under the covers even when disabled and nobody could even really know. Though if the OHA tried to do it with android it would would be easy to tell. The way around this ofcourse is to put those features in proprietary apps which come default.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
Sorry, I misunderstood your point. I see what you meant now.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Actually being open source makes it easier for devs on xda to discover privacy issues not being fully disclosed. Look what treve discovered about HTC. That was huge and it was just some amateur dev who shook up every company who used keystroke data logging.

And google isn't bloat. That's just a bizarre statement. Your phone runs google software. Period. You really should get a different phone.

Non google roms? I don't mean to be a douche but you really should change the title of this thread if you want to be taken seriously. Nothing wrong with having privacy concerns but that statement makes you look completely clueless
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bird11:
I know, that's exactly what I was getting at

Android is main OS is fro the OHA, not google.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KommodoreHeinz:
Looks like someone has a stick up their ass and no sense of humor.

Sorry for trying to bring a little truth to the OP's world....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tmuka:
I'm thinking with Google going after military and gov contracts it's very possible to lock down android privacy and security. Seems like not logging in to Google services on an aosp Rom without gapps installed (which is a separate install already) is the best starting point available without ditching android. Then sideload apps or use getjar or Amazon market for apps? I know you said you want ltevo class hardware, but perhaps an htc hd2 running meego or another OS is right for you...

I love Google's services and integration, and sharing my data with them is a calculated risk I am okay with. I hope you find what you're looking for, and that your privacy is worth the compromises.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] hasibzaman:
If u don't want "Google crap" get a basic table telephone and carry that with you where ever you go

You deserve that only.. :mad:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jspsuperman:
OP makes me think of Woody Harelsons character in 2012, crazy and thinks everythings a conspiracy lol Maybe a prank is being played :eek:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Android is completely and totally a Google product.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cruise350:
Why do you guys keep feeding this troll! He obviously doesn't have a clue and should dig out his old moto startek from the drawer. Why would you buy an android phone if you don't want Google. Go buy a blackberry or icrap. That will get rid of Google for you.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] yunjing7:
Then how about you let someone else use such a fantastic device and go get an Iphone, or a cheap basic phone. Why someone would really want to get an android phone with out anything related to Google is beyond me. But I guess to each his own, made me laugh a bit. So, thanks for the good laugh. Made my day^_^
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bird11:
It's actually not. It's a OHA product.

I have already explained it in detail. base android is not a google product, it's from the OHA. It's open source. That software is completely decoupled from google. Using an iPhone or something else is not any better because they ofcourse don't have the same openness. It's only google's own customizations and apps which are closed source and play a risk with android devices (There are also risks with other things like sense from HTC, you have no idea what's that's doing in the background). These can be location services, voice processing, etc.

android is a stable OS which does basic features well. It's open source so the chances of privacy infringing code to be commited by the OHA is very unlikely and it's simpler to just add it to other additions.

To me these are very viable reasons. Hopefully it's no longer beyond you. That one made me laugh.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bobarune:
First off, what is OHA? You're confusing me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bird11:
Open Handset Alliance the folks who create and maintain android. Google is a part of the alliance but it's not their product.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bobarune:
So would Installing an AOSP rom with out the gapps be a non google rom? or is there still Google background things running even if you don't install gapps?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bird11:
Yes that is what I am looking for. Just the base system with the proper drivers for a device.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
For fs sake. Google leads the Open handset alliance. Their engineers are responsible for the updates.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
Dear bird11,

Please remove your tinfoil hat and enjoy your device.

Sincerely,

PsiPhiDan
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bobarune:
You could try CM10. But video recording doesn't work. Just install with out gapps. You have to download it off IRC at channel #htc-evo-4g-lte
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] klbjr:
Maybe I'm missing the point. So you buy a Google phone but don't want anything Google in it? Hmmm....makes sense. Yeah when I bought my BMW last year I stripped out everything because I really don't like BMW.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
Video now works as of an hour or so ago. :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mattemer:
Yes, Android is a product of the OHA, but Google drives that. Google builds and updates Android.

You're asking basically to remove Apple from ios, or Microsoft from Windows Phone. I understand you're saying since its open source it's different, but it's really not.

You can remove all gapps from say cm10, and let us know how it works. But that's as close as you'll get, unless you talk to the OHA and maybe they have some secret Rom laying around you could use.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bird11:
It's not a google phone though. It's an android phone with google apps built in. android at its base has nothing to do with google as a company. Yes google does play a large role in developing it but that's no different then lets say yahoo contributing engineers to the FreeBSD project which they do many.

The finished suite of software you get when you buy a phone is more then just android itself though is commonly know simply as android. No different then linux being known as linux instead of gnu/linux.

Your anology of the BMW also doesn't fit.

google does build and update android I have explained my reasoning of why there is a difference between code submitted via the OHA and their proprietary applications.

I am not asking to "remove Apple from ios, or Microsoft from Windows Phone.". It's a different setting because niether of these systems are open source other then darwin for OSX which is a long way away from what is used in ios these days. Instead android and google branded software are completely decoupled. This seperation allows for you to have android without prorietary google software or both together. You can't compare android and other mobile platforms because they are not the same. You could compare apple, microsoft and rim offers because they have similair models and buying these products withinout respective offers would impossible. Android on the other hand is not that way. Google provides the framework to use android under the gpl for the kernel and the permissive apache license for everything non kernel. None of this has anything to do with any services like google maps, talk, play, etc. All of that is not open source.

If you understood what I meant about it being open source then you wouldn't say it's not different. The models certainly are different.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mattemer:
I understand what you're saying, I do. But you're failing to realize that google is the one providing us with Android. What you're saying makes sense, in theory, but while I said it in jest, you really would need to get a base from the OHA that google hasn't touched. I don't think that exists?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tmuka:
I think you must be looking for a argument since my legit reply got ignored.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bird11:
Not at all. I am actually looking into that
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bobarune:
Sweet! Just installed 8/20 but I haven't tested it.

bird11,

I think your best bet would be CM10 without gapps since that's as close to non google as you probably can get.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thispaininmyhead:
Maybe he just has illegal things to hide...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] BonkyMoon:
To be fair, that's a pretty valid reason. But it's not just about illegal things; the sheer amount of information you end up giving to google (or whoever your preferred malefactor may be) is pretty large and it's sort of amazing how much can be done with it (marketing in particular.) While I happily trade the potential risks to get all the neat stuff that google provides for me, it's not entirely irrational to try and limit that sort of disclosure.

All I'm saying is give the guy a break. He came in with a very specific end-result in mind and things generally go a lot smoother when you simply recognize a person's position, agree/disagree with it, and then proceed to try and give a viable solution. If you can't think of one, then it's probably best to just move on.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Kilroy672:
I orderd this 10 days ago from Amazon. Even though it said it wouldn't be in stock until Aug. 25th, well I got in the mail today. I will try to do a review later this weekend as I haven't had time to mess with it or even try to install. I paid $14.99+free shipping.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Kilroy672:
After 1 days use I'm happy and not happy. Thank goodness it has 2 protectors to it, becuase I just about ruined the first one right away. It collects dust, hair and lint like a maganet so be careful. It definately has a glass like look and feel when applied. Right now it still has a few bubbles but not many, and after I put my TPU case on there the bottom left corner has a bubble that wont go away and also has a few very small strands of hair. But I'm afraid to take it off to try to get those off. So right now I'm happy but I'm sure in the near future I will get something better. So I think its worth the $14.99 if apllied right.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nman123:
Hey guys so I just made this thread so people can share their phone plan and cost

1) plan

2)monthly cost

3)features

4)pros

5)con

6)coverage

7)what state or city are you in

Thanks guys

For me

1) att unlimited text call and 2gb data

2) idk

3)stated in 1

4)amazing

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6) awsom

7)nor h jersey
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ProDriver77:
1) Verizon Shared Data 8GB.

2) $170 before insurance & taxes. (2 lines)

3) Everything the phone can do.

4) No more Sprint and lousy network/data speeds.

5) Lack of unlimited data plan (but 8GB is so far plenty per month for wife & I).

6) It works. Everywhere. Period!

7) Harrisburg, PA (but travel 5 days per week to Greater Williamsport, PA area).

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus on Verizon Wireless
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] anothermbdusted:
K so i have rooted my phone and unlocked bootloader would really like a stable DD rom of cm10 to use and want google wallet working but have some questions reguarding these..

1. to get google wallet working do we still need to edit the prop build to get this working and also do you have to do this if you have a cm10 installed?

2. for cm10 does everything work or does it need some more time to get working properly?

3. whats a good link for a install of cm10?

thanks for reading have a good day...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tonu42:
On the xda app I was able to perform three searches or browse to find topics titled. "Guides". Give a man the instructions he will be happy with the rom for a day, teach a man to flash, he will be happy for the next two years. Pm me if you can't find anything and I will help.... we don't need another thread to continue on.

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy S 3 running CM10
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] anothermbdusted:
so i found this but states nothing about a unlocked bootloader.. don't want to mess up my phone so thats why i asked the question... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1810040&highlight=google+wallet

also saw somewhere where it states that nfc isn't working on cm10 but yet you can install google wallet but without nfc support thats a no go so which is it?and a work around on the mms issue or is it fixed properly?

as for the cm10 install link i have seen the nightly's and was wondering about if its different for a unlocked bootloader is all or does it even matter if it is unlocked?

trust me i dont post very often and do a ton of searching but some of the questions i had wasn't answered clear enough and wanted to make sure befor i did something wrong is all so sorry if i made another thread.
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stempanssi:
As the title says... or how to unlock it...
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Turbojugend:
I would assume the Asus unlock app works in JB since they pushed the JB update out. Does it not work?
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stempanssi:
My tablet is coming from a repair and i also got the WW version so i was just wondering if it works in JB. as i dont yet want to unlock but i will do that someday...
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jaiim:
This is a good question, not sure whether I should update to JB if I might lose the ability to ever unlock; if that were the case I'd be better off just unlocking and flashing a jellybean rom instead. Their unlocker states in the description that it is "Only suitable for Andriod4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich OS version."
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stempanssi:
Thats exactly what I mean...:)
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] osaeed:
Damn, i hope asus puts the unlocker for Jellybean as well as the firmware!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] alireza_asol:
hi friends

sorry about my english

i have samsung sgh-i997r ( rogers ) , uxkg3 , 2.3.3 stock

i rooted it today by this method http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1197248 (after rooting i flashed stock kernel)

i wanted to install cwm to create recovery (i installed busybox , rom manager...) but i cant ...

now i want to restore(flash) my phone to factory stock 2.3.3 rom ( without root & any change in rom... )

but i dont know how?... i searched but i didnt find stock firmware...

thanks for your help
[Samsung Infuse 4G] andros11:
Look in the iset thread for the rogers stock pack.

Edit: here is the guide- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1326143

Sent from my sweet & buttery Infuse
[Samsung Infuse 4G] captemo:
Andros is right an him being a senior member i would definitly follow him. you can also find the same info in the super everythig tread under development.

you may want to pay attention to information specifically pertaning to Rogers group as i think there is a difference, otherwise why would they categorize for "Rogers only".

as i did, my suggestion is, read read read.

good luck

---------- Post added at 05:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:01 PM ----------

Odin return to stock would be the option for stock out of the box with no root, but dont let one bad experience limit your options.

not every ROM is going to work the same for everybody and their phone. each phone is a little different. a ROM that works on one phone may not work the same on yours.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] alireza_asol:
seems only way is odin stock pack ==> stock kernel ==> delete extra files from root

is odin stock pack really stock?? no need to csc file?

now other question:

when i want to install update.zip in e3 recovery ( to install cwm ) i receive this error :

E: failed to verify whole-file signature

E: signature verifiction failed

why?

thanks...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] huseniezzaz:
here is the solution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1HgcZrYR_4 follow this link and i hope you will get it, if you have problem you can message me.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] alireza_asol:
its for at&t 2.2

my phone is rogers 2.3.3 !
[Samsung Infuse 4G] captemo:
are you just returning to stock without root?

or

return to stock,root & modded 3e recovery?

the signature fail is what i got when i was rooted and wanted to flash.

what i was missing was the "CommunityKernal.tar.md5". dont quote me on the exact name of the file, but it was a community kernal. i have the file on the wifes laptop, not mine. not exactly sure how to post link either.

i had a short recovery after "stock,root & modded 3e recovery"(cant remember color, think it was green). after flashing community kernal i had a longer list in recovery and it was red. was good to go and flashing everything in sight.

your Odin "stock,root & modded 3e recovery" took about 5 minutes ???

community kernal flashes in Odin also, but will take only about 15 seconds.

same method though.

i am sure somebody on here would have the community kernal if it is not outdated, though whenever i used it, it works flawlessly.

somebody may have a faster way, but again nice and safe for me
[Samsung Infuse 4G] alireza_asol:
these are two separate questions

1 how too return to stock 2.3.3 (solved )

2 i downloaded modded e3. but there is no recovery in system/bin to replace it. so i only pasted it there

installed rom manager== > choosed i9000 ==> flashed

when i want install update.zip i receive above errors
[Samsung Infuse 4G] captemo:
still say you need community kernal.

from the information your giving, i think your using unecessary software, ie. rom manager and maybe you are skipping steps.

what are you trying to flash??? (GB, ICS or JB) there are important steps to progress from one to another. if you skip, you get problems.

read read read, go slow and make sure you understand. really arent any shortcuts to take

---------- Post added at 10:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:18 AM ----------

still say you need community kernal.

from the information your giving, i think your using unecessary software, ie. rom manager and maybe you are skipping steps.

what are you trying to flash??? (GB, ICS or JB) there are important steps to progress from one to another. if you skip, you get problems.

read read read, go slow and make sure you understand. really arent any shortcuts to take.

---------- Post added at 10:21 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:20 AM ----------

OOOPS
[Samsung Infuse 4G] andros11:
The modded recovery process will not work with your phone as you noticed, there isn't any recovery file.

Did you already remove root? You will need it for CWM recovery.

I'm not completely sure if a GB kernel such as Entropy's would allow you to use CWM. I'll see if I can find something about it

Edit: it seems I was right. Entropy's kernel should give you CWM. However, follow either one of these guides which use the Infused kernel instead:

I you have not removed root yet (start on step 2): http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20140197&postcount=3

If you already unrooted, you will need to use Odin: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1197248

Sent from my sweet & buttery Infuse
[Samsung Infuse 4G] alireza_asol:
thanks friends :)

last question:

in this method : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1326143

i cant delete voodoo folder for ever? :laugh: or i need it for first boot only?

thank u again.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babypop2012:
Hello , I am new to this forum and to android. I have been trying to figure out how to get my tab out of Factory mode but I can't. Every time I reboot the tablet it comes back into factory mode against gives me a warning that I need to switch to user mode. What to do and how to do it if anyone could help I would be grateful. I have tried all the reset options but nothing works.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] babsmatter:
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[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaddadial:
Im running on xperia s ics rom and fxp 132 kernel. Wifi was working fine for days since i flashed rom but now its just not getting connected to signal i was using a day earlier. Tried clearing dalvik cache.. no success. What else can i try to make it work? :confused:

Sent from my xperia x10 running ics :what:
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] udupa82:
Flash the kernel again and clear cache and dalvik....
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] z28tovette:
Try different kernel
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mohgaza:
Ive the same case HERE, hope we can find solution. :(

I read the FXP finished kernel 134, waiting it to be uploaded to test.

I hope it's not hardware problem.

BRGRDS
[LG Optimus 2x] SoloSkull:
Great, i tried to flash Hellfire's ICS rom, and for some freakin' reason, the phone got stuck at the hellfire loading screen and won't boot.

The problem is, my down vol button broke quite some time ago, and i can't use the power+vol down in order to save my phone. any ideas?
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
If you're lucky then it boots up enough to load adb.

Attach the usb cable, boot, open cmd and try if you find a device with adb devices

If yes you can easily tell it to reboot to recovery with reboot recovery and flash a new ROM.

Edit: As Hellfire is an ICS ROM you might need to use my modded adb drivers: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1752074
[LG Optimus 2x] Rayman96:
From what i know smathflash needs VOL UP to be used.
[LG Optimus 2x] SoloSkull:
I'm sorry, but i'm not really familiar on how ADB works..

Can you help me out? I'm not sure what am i supposed to do to tell it to reboot to recovery.

P.S. Well, i tried booting up my phone today and it's now stuck at the second LG logo (the one with a blue hue).
[LG Optimus 2x] Rayman96:
Man, if you really can't use adb why are you modding your phone?

I will supply you with adb when I come from work.

Sent from LG 2X using Tapatalk 3 Beta

EDit: I am not sure than this is all needed files to run, but you should be able to do your things by runnig CMD line in folder with adb tools unpacked from this archieve.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] satish0101:
Hello Friends,

I am in desperate need of your help.

I am a moderate user and I know how to stuffs about Rooting and flashing custom ROMs.

Today I tried to flash CM9 stable ROM for International Galaxy S2 I9100. I did it using temporary CWM.zip file and everything went just fine till the installation of ROM. But when I clicked Wipe Data, suddenly phone went off and now it doesn't start.

I tried everything, tried to enter into Download mode and Recovery mode but all was in vain.

Please help me what should I do now? And is my phone ever going to come back to life?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] satish0101:
Additional Info

To add into this.

I was using,

PDA: I9100XWLPT

CSC: I9100NEELP4

Version: 4.0.4
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HANDSY:
Do you know what kernal you had at the time, for the phone to go off during a wipe sounds like the brick bug but I didn't think it was present in LPT. Can other members clarify please. Does your phone charge when plugged into charger?