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[Nexus 7 General] ProphetD:
Tbh, if it isn't creaking or under stress, I wouldn't worry about it dude, some people on here have blown it way out of proportion, if there is light bleed or dead pixels or screen rippling however, you might want to RMA, if it's solid and there's nothing wrong with it, except for a "minor screen lift" then don't worry.
[Nexus 7 General] Raistline:
I recently got my 3rd Nexus 7, first one had screen lift, second one had SEVERE screen lift out of the box. The third has the most minor screen lift of them all. It is from a different batch the the first two. The box has semi-circles cut out to easily remove the cover. I popped the back of the device off and the Right side only had 2 screw holes with screws in them, and two left empty. Seems like Asus has decided the issue was the screws applying pressure to the screen after all.

I have now had the new one for 2 or 3 weeks and the minor screen lift has not gotten, nor better. It is at the same level.

Oh and I have run it through multi-touch tests to look for weaknesses, ran screen tests to identify dead pixels and eve contrast tests. There is no flaw in any of these. It is pretty much a perfect device, provided no additional screen lift.
[Nexus 7 General] Bigjim1488:
Yea I agree with you. I will probably try the washer fix and move on from it.
[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
I would. Mine was not creaking and did not appear stressed in the slightest. Somewhere between emailing a co-worker from the kitchen until I took 9 steps out to the car, my screen cracked. I foresee a massive headache with ASUS (RMA'd it yesterday) as it sounds like ASUS is refusing to fix them. I can see if I dropped it, but dang, this is absurd. If they refuse to fix it, I'll at least ensure they burn up a ton of hours arguing with me over the phone. Time is money, and I can multitask dang well - so I have all day(s). :good:
[Nexus 7 General] dinesh690:
Nvm just purchased this beauty :D

Sent from my Xperia Arc S
[Nexus 7 General] pxlitup:
I can understand why people think I'm overreacting, but if I didn't believe this flaw was potentially serious I wouldn't keep harping on about it.

If you'll do me the favor of checking these links, I think you'll understand where I'm coming from.

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30214-the-its-broken-already-thread/

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1825749

Unfortunately, there's more where that came from. I predict that this will be a fairly common experience over the next year, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
[Nexus 7 General] ProphetD:
I did say that if it is severe that you should RMA, but if the screen is solid and not creaking or moving if it is a "minor screen lift" then you're good, no point RMAing because the manufacturing process is not changing, it is what you get
[Nexus 7 General] imapirate:
I have a Nexus 7 C8 SSN. Day three, tried my best to stress and heat up the device playing games and running Transformers Movie it came with on loop.

The device got pretty warm, no screen lift yet. :fingers-crossed:

OP, have you tried to 'heat' your device up as well and see if it gets worse or any change at all?
[Nexus 7 General] pxlitup:
If your screen is lifted it's definitely moving, whether you notice it or not. If you want to make the argument that this type of glass and the display can tolerate a little flex, as long as it's within a tiny range of motion, go ahead and make that argument.

[YOUTUBE]oCYRfxUl0Ew[/YOUTUBE]

If you can do that and make the bezel visible, it's moving every time you touch the left side.

As for the futility of replacements, although the cause of separation may be present in all units, there are perfectly flush screens out there. I've only seen evidence of one, but they do exist. Whether or not it's worthwhile to RMA really depends on the percentages, which seem pretty grim, and how likely it is for flush units to develop separation.
[Nexus 7 General] ProphetD:
I'm not bothered by the screen lifting because it's sooo minor, I can't believe people are returning and getting replacements for minor ones like this, let's remember that what started this frenzy was the screens that weren't secure and came loose and therefore cracked, My device's screen is secured, no light bleed, no dead pixels, it's perfect, it's also only £200

On the other hand, I can't wait to see what Apple have been cooking up, I'm planning to purchase the mini iPad(just to see what the hype’s all about) and the next iPhone ;)
[Nexus 7 General] dirtyhamster73:
Wow.... That's awful =( I wanted to cry when I watched that video. I'm so lucky that both my N7's, c6, are pretty perfect, right now anyway.
[Nexus 7 General] pxlitup:
Oh is it now?

Your cognitive dissonance is amazing.

Now I feel bad for using the word inevitable. That was a lapse of reason. Please don't let what I said worry you, especially if you ordered from the Play store.

Part of me wishes I kept my second unit, the one with the least lift, because I think Google would have my back if the screen cracked during normal use.

It's obviously a great product otherwise, so don't let me rain on your parade.
[Nexus 7 General] dirtyhamster73:
Oh it's ok! I'm not worried, it happens, it happens...I didn't buy mine from the play store though, one came from Staples and the other Wal-Mart. But I'm confident that if I do eventually get screen lift that it won't happen for a while and by that point I'll be on to the second gen N7 :) I check my screens everyday by doing the "bezel test".
[Nexus 7 General] ProphetD:
I don't understand why you keep trolling, it's not my fault that this minor cosmetic flaw is unbothering, please stop trolling
[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
I don't blame you in the slightest. After seeing my 0.0001mm raised screen on the left side crack in two places after I walked 9 steps with the tablet in my hand, I'd be all over the Nexus 7 defects (if you detect any) like a hawk. I foresee a massive fiasco with ASUS to get this fixed, which isn't something I'd recommend to anybody. It'll likely end up with me yelling and them saying I don't care. Like I mentioned before, maybe ASUS will surprise me - but I certainly wouldn't bet my car on it, and my car at this point is probably valued less than a Nexus 7. lol??
[Nexus 7 General] pxlitup:
Please stop telling users that your lifting display is secured.

Whether or not it's a serious flaw is up for discussion, although reports of screens cracking under normal pressure should give you something to chew on.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1825749
[Nexus 7 General] ProphetD:
It’s not lifting, it is raised less than 0.2mm above the silver coloured plastic, I bet more than 80% of devices have it, it's just a design flaw, if you RMA it, you're still likely to get one with a screen raise, it's only the severely lifted ones like the one I had before this that should be RMA’d, that one was definitely going to crack, this one's fine :)

Now please stop trolling my thread, you're all over this forum and it's quite annoying :rolleyes:
[Nexus 7 General] demandarin:
Well I just received a replacement model today. Its a C70KB model. Im returning my original one due to screen lift and speaker distortion/blown. No need for lectures on screen lift as I know what it looks like. Since the one I'm sending back has it...lmfao. this new model screen looks seated well. I tested and looked from all various angles. No sign of screen lift. I especially checked the left side. The screen is not raised above the bezel at all. Not a little bit or alot. Perfectly seated. Now the real test will come after a few days of use. Ill need to play some graphic intense 3D games to warm things up. Then see how this screen holds up. My previous tablet lift wasn't major at all really. But it was noticeable to me from reading all these threads. So it had me constantly looking at it. So this replacement unit display looks like a good one and the speakers sound good also. Compared to my other N7, and my original N7 speakers sound bad. New one sounds good. Just letting you all know how this C7 replacement unit was. Ill report back after putting it through the paces. To see if the screen lift shows up after heavy gaming or whatever. So far so good though.

P.s. no fingerprints or anything on new unit. Looks brand new. Seal was intact. That's for the people thinking replacement units are refurbs.

Also, stop the bickering over assuming all units have screen lift. If it does and its minor OK. If its major, get a replacement. But don't assume everyone has it. Some might not have it at all. Some might have minor or major one. Let the owner of the device decide after reading what to check for. My new unit looks like a keeper. Glad to see how well Google reacts to my complaint and sending me a new unit out in 2days. Now my new galaxy note 10.1 32gb that i ordered arrives tomorrow at Best Buy ;) 2 brand new devices back to back.
[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
I decided to call Google to get their take on it. The woman I spoke to was extremely apologetic, and said that numerous items on the original batch have been fixed and they're doing their best to work through it. I said it's fine to have issues, so long as you correct them. I told her that's exactly what ASUS is not doing and that Google should be aware about the huge magnitude of people who are upset with ASUS right now. She assured me it would be escalated and was even more apologetic that I must go through ASUS to get the item fixed, which I knew about already. My agenda was not to get Google to fix it. My agenda was to get word out that ASUS is not handling repairs the way they should be and that people are upset with them.

To show of you saying "oh it's just a little screen lift it's no big deal" etc. Yeah, okay. Hopefully you won't have the same story I did. I had the ever so slightest amount of screen lift and I was perfectly okay with it until mine magically broke in 2 places. Food for thought.
[Nexus 7 General] steddora:
My c7 after 11 days, lifted. Gonna throw it back at staples tomorrow for a replacement or refund and the batch will determine it. I haven't seen as many of the c8 batch being bad. So if they can provide me a c8, I'll probably grab it up. If not; I'll probably get a refund and wait and get one when the batches are proved fixed. I trust asus will fix the problem since it is google they are building for. Though I haven't been a fan of their pc hardware for quite a while. But i can assume that if they fail for the goog, they probably will never build for the goog again. I'll update and let you know what comes of the replacement.

Just so you know, i don't even game on this thing. Never really got it hot. I'd probably have some serious lift if i did though. Mine is slight now but I'm not changing it specially in the return period for staples.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 General] Solange82200:
I think this test is silly. On my first nexus the left screen was pretty separated, I didnt notice till I saw the the comments here about it, but if I pushed down on the left side it was squishy and made noise. The one I have now is great, except if I do this test it would fail, as it has a tiny bit of lift. The device is perfect thought, the lift affects nothing, and I would never have noticed it if I hadn't done this test.

There are legitimate cases of screen lift out there that warrant return. But if you need to do the test you described to see it, it's not really a problem in my opinion.

By the way, I had four nexus's in total due to exchanges, two of them were completely flush, to the point where they would pass this test, but they had other problems like screen bleed and screen flicker. If all your tablet has is a tiny bit of screen lift that you can't even FIND without looking for the silver line at eye level, even I (who exchanged my device three times) think you are overreacting.
[Nexus 7 General] steddora:
Mine is about a mm lifted after only 10 days of actual light use. That test not only causes the bleed but squeaking as well. I'm definitely returning mine. I agree with you there though. If it wasn't as bad and made no noise then it may be alright. But I've only put maybe eight hours on it in two weeks. Only three charge cycles, so it's definitely going to get worse.

Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G touch that's rocking the best ROM on the planet. Rujelus22's The Blu Kuban!
[Nexus 7 General] jamesst20:
Mine is a C70 and has deaths pixels
[Nexus 7 General] pxlitup:
Thank you for checking, and for replying despite your concern that this result could be misinterpreted.

It's very possible that I am being overly cautious, but my thoughts will be proven or disproven by the screen cracking incidence rate over the course of the next year. Hopefully it will not affect a significant number of units, and I will be proven wrong in this speculation against my own interests.

You may disagree with my decision to either wait for a fix or hold out for something else, but the fact that you posted the result of this test despite your misgivings about its significance is a fine example of the sort of scientific detachment that makes xda a great place for device support.
[Nexus 7 General] mario24601:
My C7 from 2 weeks ago is still perfect. I was worried the lift would come but hasn't. I took 4 replacements but finally got good one. Sounds like even on C8s still have issues.
[Nexus 7 General] Freshtojeff:
I don't blame you for returning it even for as minimal as it may sound. It seems like people are now having to deal with cracked screens because of the lift issue. IMO it wouldn't be worth waiting to see if it hurts you or even risk it to pay the asking price of 160 or so that they ask to replace the screen.
[Nexus 7 General] californiarailroader:
Is that like a Death's Head? ;) :D

---------- Post added at 11:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:39 PM ----------

For those with lifted screens, are you exposing it to high heat or direct sunlight for extended periods?
[Nexus 7 General] SPreston2001:
I would like to see a tear down of a C8 unit to see a change has actually been made. I honestly don't think they changed anything....
[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
I cannot put into words how much this rages me to know that people are faced with this ultimatum.

User purchases Nexus 7 tablet.

User has Nexus 7 tablet for a matter of 1-2 weeks.

User's Nexus 7 screen cracks, in some cases from 1ft high drops, in other cases without even touching the screen itself

.

ASUS had a design flaw which resulted in ultra easy to crack screens.

ASUS refuses to acknowledge design flaw.

ASUS charges user 3/4 of original N7 price to fix cracked screen that resulted from ASUS's design flaw.

ASUS thinks they're doing a fair job.

No, ASUS. You need to own up to your design flaw. Period. Done. Over. End of story. You need to start righting some wrongs about this issue.

I just checked the tracking info. My N7 is in Texas already and will likely be at the ASUS RMA facility today. They better have good news for me.
[Nexus 7 General] steddora:
Saying goodbye to my c70, on its way back to staples after I post this. Screen lift was actually getting worse after it was used all day by my girlfriend. Now it bleeds when pressed on the left side. I really liked this tablet too. They don't have any in stock so I'll have to wait to get a replacement.

Boy I'm going to miss this thing!

Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G touch that's rocking the best ROM on the planet. Rujelus22's The Blu Kuban!
[Nexus 7 General] neotekz:
By bleed do you mean a ripple discoloration at the point you press? Under normal use can you see and light coming from the edge?
[Nexus 7 General] steddora:
Yep

Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G touch that's rocking the best ROM on the planet. Rujelus22's The Blu Kuban!
[Nexus 7 General] ThirtyHz:
Mine is in Kentucky right now, will be here by end of day tomorrow. Looking forward to sharing what I find in the box haha. Hoping its a C80, considering my C60 was a piece of trash. Screen flicker, and bleed doesnt annoy me, >1mm screen lift does... :eek:
[Nexus 7 General] Solange82200:
Thank you for that, everyone has the right to make their own decisions about their product, I'm sorry that I implied otherwise. For example, you'll see in another thread I posted a pic of one of my nexus's having light bleed, and was told by several people that it was common and their opinion was that I shouldn't exchange (I asked for their honest opinion by the way, and appreciated getting it).

In the end though, the light bleed issue along with the fact that the tablet was significantly brighter than all the others I'd seen (even on lowest setting, causing me trouble when using at night in the dark), made me end up exchanging it anyway. I'm happy I did. I have one with normal brightness, and no light bleed at all. The other one as flush, whereas this one has the tiny screen lift, but I did what was best for me and am much happier for it.

My only point I was trying to make, I suppose, is to be cautious with looking too hard for faults that wouldn't have bothered you otherwise, as for the time being there is a slight chance you will get a new tablet with worse problems than your previous one. But every person is different, and even every problem is different, not all screen lifts or light bleed issues, etc., are equally serious, so everyone make sure to make an informed decision and do what they feel will make them a happy consumer, regardless of what I or anyone says. And thank god for xda, I agree many of us would be lost without it :)
[Nexus 7 General] ThirtyHz:
Agreed
[Nexus 7 General] tbonezx11:
Huh, I hope I'm not screwed. Just picked up my N7 from Wal-Mart agree then being out of stock last two weeks and got home to realize it is a C60k .... How is it possible that a 60 is just making it to the stores? It is changing now, wondering if i should box it up now and return it.

Screen is flush, but if i push on it, there is minor creaking.

I'll wait & see for now.

Sent from a Buttery-smooth Amaze with xda-developers app
[Nexus 7 General] ProphetD:
If it's creaky, try removing the 3rd and 5th screw on the left side(right when on it's back) if you are not happy with your purchase, you can always RMA or get a full refund :)
[Nexus 7 General] opcow:
I bought one at Walmart on the 15th. It too is a C60. Has a bit of screen lift, but no creaking.
[Nexus 7 General] NeoMagus:
Nothing was changed on C8 besides the actual box (inside box they added thumb holes on the sides), if there was they wouldn't still be coming out with lift on the left side.
[Nexus 7 General] jamesst20:
My C70 had tape on both side.. and also has death pixel, waiting for my replacement
[Nexus 7 General] Rock-&-Roll-Hedgehog:
Random Online store!!!!

Effing cheek! I didn't know the internet existed in 1864, when John Lewis was founded. It is an upmarket department shop with a Royal Warrant. Does your beloved Maceys (mid range department shop) have a Royal Warrant?

Don't start with the English Mr Philistine just don't!

love

Mrs Hedgehog
[Nexus 7 General] Gavin S.:
For those (like myself) that have no idea what a Royal Warrant is, here is an explanation.

Royal warrants of appointment have been issued for centuries to those who supply goods or services to a royal court or certain royal personages. The warrant enables the supplier to advertise the fact that they supply to the royal family, so lending prestige to the supplier. Several royal families allow tradesmen to advertise royal patronage, including those of the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Belgium, Thailand, Denmark and Sweden.

Suppliers continue to charge for their goods and services – a warrant does not imply that they provide goods and services free of charge. The warrant is typically advertised on company hoardings, letter-heads and products by displaying the coat of arms or the heraldic badge of the royal personage as appropriate. Underneath the coat of arms will usually appear the phrase "By Appointment to…" followed by the title and name of the royal customer, and then what goods are provided. No other details of what is supplied may be given.
[Nexus 7 General] alferret:
I'm on my 3rd nexus 7.

1st went back due to screen lift about 1mm. C70

2nd went back today, screen lift & missing screws on the left hand side, 2 loose screws on right side & finger prints on the copper sheilds, poor build by Asus. C80

Latest one has no screen lift (yet) C80

Fingers crossed for this one.
[Nexus 7 General] AznDud333:
youd think they'd stop production and fix the issues first..the rma cost is probably way over profits by now...
[Nexus 7 General] txskeets:
I picked up a Nexus 7 yesterday from Office Depot. Its a C80 unit and I dont seem to be having any of the issues being talked about here. Anyone want me to check anything specific?
[Nexus 7 General] pxlitup:
I've been asking people with C8s to check for screen lift using a simple test. Apologies if you've done this already.

The easiest way to inspect the left side is to look from the right. Hold the device with the right side facing you and look across the screen so the left bezel becomes a silver horizon. If the black display is higher at any point, it will interrupt that silver line.

Here is an example of a flush screen, looking across the device from the right side.
[Nexus 7 General] txskeets:
As best I can tell, I am not seeing any screen lift on mine.
[Nexus 7 General] SPreston2001:
My C8 looks pretty good but honestly if you gotta do this horizon test just to tell if your N7 has screen lift then it probably isnt worth sweating. Who was the person that determined this was a flaw anyway lol. I understand the folks with screens clearly sticking up over the bezel to the point where you can see the side of the screen, but man using this horizon test just to tell if you have the slightest bit of lift seems a bit much IMO.
[Nexus 7 General] shook187:
pxlitup been on a mission from the screen separation gods to preach the word of screen separation on every thread.

I went on my own mission to find a perfectly flat screen. After the 5th N7 at various Walmart and staples I've came to the conclusion no N7 will be perfectly flat they all have a slight lift towards the center one the left side.
[Nexus 7 General] SPreston2001:
I agree. I dont think ASUS manufactured these tablets to have a perfectly even screen to bezel ratio lol. Its made out of plastic so its naturally going to bend and flex a little. When I first heard of screen lift I couldnt stop laughing when I saw how infuriated some people were that their screens failed the horizon test ever so slightly. I would love to know who was the guy that started all this screen lift mess. I guarantee most of them would never have noticed it had someone not posted it on these forums. Anybody with a Kindle, iPad, or Nook care to do a horizon test and see if the screen is ever so slightly raised anywhere around the bezel?
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
I agree, most of the reported "Screen lift problems" are not screen lift, and not a problem.

Almost as bad as the folks that open their unit and RMA it because Asus decided leaving two screws out was better.

Folks, Apple is right around the corner, and you will be happier with an IPad.

I know I will be happier seeing less imagined complaints here...
[Nexus 7 General] pxlitup:
Maybe you're right. Maybe these screens can tolerate more flex than I've been led to believe.

But accuracy is a good thing, so we should be using the most reliable method of inspection regardless.

ASUS has yet to acknowledge it, but if you ask Google Support if a little separation is normal they will tell you to RMA it.

Here are a few reports that might indicate that a loose screen is a serious structural weakness.

Cracked screen... will ASUS fix it?

Nexus 7 screen cracks easily

The "it's broken already" thread

Maybe asking people if their freshly unboxed Nexus 7 has screen lift or not is a little pointless. After all, the sample isn't large enough.

But you're not making that argument. Instead, you're saying that we should be checking for it less effectively.

Did you hear that everyone?

Preston is offering to trade his Nexus 7 with a perfectly flush screen to an xda member with minor lift (flawless otherwise).

Provided you'll cover the shipping. PM him for details.