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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] shinkinrui:
Very cool to see some development starting to happen for this phone! I hope you guys can keep the momentum building. This will be the best QWERTY device on T-Mobile for quite some time, I'm willing to bet. I'll probably be getting this phone for my wife in a few months.

Unfortunately, T-Mobile delaying the phone for employees/online ordering(by the way, for the guy that was wondering about online ordering, it should be available October 19th) gave me more time to think about it as my personal device. This wouldn't have been too bad of a thing for me, just a little more waiting time, but there was another factor: the imminent release of the Galaxy Note 2 and all the reviews that are now being published for it.

It's funny, if you had asked me two weeks ago about which I preferred, a bigger screen or having a physical keyboard, I would have responded with a resounding "GIMME KEYBOARD NAO." I was missing having a keyboard so much. But now I've been reading the Note 2 reviews, seeing the S Pen in action, seeing the benchmark results, seeing the screen real estate that the higher resolution provides ... And suddenly I find myself giving a lot more weight to having higher resolution and a bigger screen along with a powerful processor. It's kind of embarrassing, because just a few weeks ago I was arguing against people here about the screen resolution and size, saying that the processor was most important. The processor IS still the most important, but there are phones that have both excellent processing power AND larger screens with 720p resolution. And the more I think about it, the more I realize that I'm getting pretty used to having no keyboard. So I've decided, it's time to move on. My love of the QWERTY is holding me back from having a truly cutting-edge phone. I'm getting a Galaxy Note 2 soon as I can. It pains me to be getting a phone with no QWERTY, but the spec-hungry side of me has won. My desire has now switched from wanting a 5-row qwerty to wanting that huge 720p screen and Wacom-powered S Pen. Seriously, though, you can do some friggin cool stuff with this phablet.

Ahem. So, yeah. Good luck with the development guys, and above all, enjoy the phone. Sorry for the rambling, off-topic nature of this post, but unfortunately there's no off-topic section for the Relay since we don't have a forum :P
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
ahh, another one succumbs to the pixel madness....

kididng ;) I've been going back and forth on qwerty or not. I'm waiting until t-mo can sell them to me through customer care since I think I might get a better deal, although it might be comparable to the magenta day sales earlier this month. Of all the things I want, I think a physical keyboard is the easiest to compromise on. To add to the dilemma, part of me wants to wait to see if there are any awesome devices in the fall. I think samsung is going to release a smaller version of the galaxy s3 line. Maybe I'll just buy and ipad mini and call it done. (kidding)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] stingernwo:
Hey just wondering does anyone know if any online sites are selling this phone for international destinations? I am from canada and looking to upgrade from my captivate glide. Only sites i have found are for best buy in the states.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] CQd44:
Since Samsung open-sourced the relay, are we able to compile the NFC drivers and add the secure flag so that google wallet can work with this phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
DO NOT FLASH THE POSTED RECOVERY. There has already been one report of a brick and my phone, while not bricked, also will not charge while the phone is off. It just sits there and buzzes.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dillalade:
Thanks for the heads up.

I personnally can't afford to brick the device as I had a friend buy it for me in the states and he shipped it to me here in London. It would be very hard/expensive to replace.

I shall await a cleaner recovery.

Much appreciate the user feedback, this helps our community from falling down the same hole.

Sorry to hear about the nextmans brick but glad he got a swift relacement, that's nice.

Does anyone have any insight or direction on cooking cwm from koushik dutta's source from his sight. I'm gonna give this a whirl, but it anyone has any perils of wisdom, please divulge.

Have you managed to flash back to the stock recovery (as long as it was initially backed up)?

Thanks all.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] John5788:
I just built Clockwork Recovery from CM9 source code. I substituted the kernel and recovery.fstab with the stock ones from the phone. The result is linked in this post. I haven't tested it out yet. If there is a brave soul that would like to test this out, please do and let me know if it works.

I have the stock recovery.img attached as well.

http://www.x5788.net/recovery-relay4g-stock.img

http://www.x5788.net/recovery-relay4g-clockwork.img

Same disclaimer as you've seen everywhere. Flash at your own risk.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dillalade:
Great work dude.

Unfortunately because of my proximity and lack of being able to get a easy relacment I will have to leave testing for another player, else I would (knowing I could replace at tmobile store etc.)

I hope for the best with your effort :thumbup:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Kaczman:
subscribed. also too inexperienced.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] noptys:
And you flash using the dd method as well, or heimdall, or Odin?

What did you do with recovery? Just backup?

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Awesome. Thanks, this will hopefully make things a lot easier.

What I did to build the kernel was basically to use /proc/config.gz to figure out which devices were different than the SGS3. It was fairly straightforward, but there were a number of differences ( like the touchscreen, which is why the SGS3 recovery doesn't have graphical support)

The "apexq" tree was already in the kernel, so I'll be curious to see how old the samsung code is they posted.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] noptys:
I would recommend AGAINST using the dd method. The Odin/heimdall engineering mode provides some safety for flashing images. In the past, when I bricked a phone (trying to hack on the G2), its been because of a mistake or typo with dd. You should always triple check dd commands and understand what they do. But because you don't have to use dd, don't.

Can anyone that had problems with the CWM I posted hop on #apexqtmo? Between the 5 minute throttle and the lack of link posting ability (and our own forum) its a little difficult to communicate effectively here.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] jandroide:
I dont think so...

In the next time the Google Nexus 7 with 3g will be released, so i am gonna get it xD
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
dd has it's place, but it's also nicknamed "disk destroy" because it has potential to reek mayhem if mistyped. ahhhh... good times.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] CQd44:
I flashed it with dd. I then tried "reboot recovery" and it flashed the samsung logo a few times then kicked me into my OS. So, while my phone isn't bricked, the file you posted doesn't work. :(

Addendum: the stock image works though ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] wuziq:
nevermind, i was able to reproduce it on a friend's sgs3. i'll leave my post here in case someone else was wondering the same thing.

sorry to detract from the CWM discussion, but i need a sanity check from anyone who has a bluetooth headset.

i have the jawbone icon headset. i have voice control installed into it. when i activate the phone from the headset, s-voice comes up, as expected. but here's what i'm getting:

- sometimes s-voice doesn't come up at all

- if it does come up, the prompt beep sometimes plays in the headset, sometimes it plays on the phone speaker

- if it does come up, sometimes it will prompt me twice in a row, the second prompt coming immediately after the confirmation of the previous prompt. example:

svoice: <prompt beep>

me: "call john smith"

svoice: <confirmation beep>

svoice: <prompt beep>

me: <i say nothing>

svoice: <confirmation beep>

svoice: "calling john smith"

i swear that this worked for a few days with no issues. then after swapping in my friend's SIM card, which turned out to be fried, svoice started not working. admittedly i'm paranoid about the SIM card swap but i can't imagine it is the cause of the svoice issues, just thought i'd throw it out there. i'm guessing that it's simply svoice not playing well with my headset, because i tried doing a factory reset, which didn't solve anything.

if anyone can provide their experiences with svoice using a bluetooth headset, i would really appreciate it! and damn, we need a new forum for this phone....
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] fantomex:
Where can you buy SIM-Lock free device? My friend is in the U.S. and could buy one for me too.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dillalade:
I got them to buy from tmobile instore and send via ups... before my friend sent via ups he sent me over the imei number for the new phone for which I purchased an unlock code online here http://www.cellunlocker.net/

Before the phone arrived (within 2 days to me in london) I received the unlock code via email within like 12hours.

Instore price was $399+tax offline and they gave a $20 tmobile pay as you go sim for which I gave to my friend in the states.

Get it, you will not be dissapointed
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] noptys:
Quick update - very alpha CM9 build

Just wanted to post a quick update:

Me and a couple other folks have been putting in some work on the CM9 build on #apexqtmo on freenode.

Previously posted CWM (2012-10-08 version)

We did some investigation and I am nearly certain that previous problems people had with the recovery were related to using dd and not a problem with the recovery itself.

I have successfully backed up everything using both formats and restored /data with this CWM.

NEW CWM

Starting with a copy of the trees for the Galaxy S III (d2tmo), I was able to build a recovery image from source instead of hacking together a kernel from the d2tmo ramdisk. This one also works - I've done backups with both formats, done a factory reset, and installed a full update.zip. (see below)

I can post this if people want.

CM9

I was finally able to build a full CM9 image, and I have installed it on my phone, and it boots.

HOWEVER, its VERY ALPHA

Basically it boots, but very few things work yet.

I'm hoping to make a large number of fixes tomorrow, so I'm not posting the current image here.

If you are interested, and especially if you have experience debugging or building CM, hop on #apexqtmo

I'll post links (if it lets me) to a more useful build when I have it.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dillalade:
Dude that is great news.

I love debugging and finding errors as such.

Very willing to help testing phase.

When you supply the CWM you talk of, can you please supply the exact method with step guide on how to install.

Very much appreciated and very excited.

Cheers
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
Did you see the samsung source? It seems to have the kernel and bits of the build.

http://opensource.samsung.com
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] noptys:
I did, but between the kernel changes from 3.0.8 to 3.0.39, and the CM modifictions and bugfixes, it wasn't as useful as I'd hoped it would be.

More importantly, it appears as though all the required drivers are in the CM (and upstream android) trees already.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] CQd44:
If you mean the previous CWM recovery posted in this thread, it'd be weird to me that it didn't work with DD but the stock recovery did.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] COZ'N'EFX:
64GB microSDXC on the Relay?

Has anyone tried a microSDXC card in a Relay yet? I know the specs say only up to 32GB, but I've read online that some devices can read 64GB even though the specs say 32GB max.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dillalade:
I recently bought the sandisk 64gb off ebay. Works flawlessly.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Kaczman:
bump
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] hendusoone:
I'm using the SanDisk 64GB UHS-1 card. It works just as well as it did in my G2, and I get 30+MB/s read speeds. Just had to format it as fat32 first (I used gparted to do it).
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] pudgybunnyBry:
EDIT: Never mind. My question was answered upon restarting my phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Kaczman:
bump?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RazoE:
If we want more exposure, we need to thank every post in the request thread that has to do with our phone. The galaxy s3 mini (aka relay with no keyboard) already got its own forum and it was just announced! Completely unfair.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] pudgybunnyBry:
I would also like to mention the Nokia Lumia devices that have 0 posts or threads, having their own forums. Gross.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
We could also try all clicking "newsworthy thread" on this thread
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Kaczman:
i clicked newsworthy!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] pudgybunnyBry:
I will be doing the same wh3n I get home from work.

You. Will. Obey. XDA Premium - Samsung SGH-T699
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Matze5800:
Clicked newsworthy too, lets hope that someone sees it :)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] rpimonitrbtch:
Also clicked newsworthy, will do some thanking later. Random thought... would it be helpful to report this thread as off-topic, and request it get moved? Or is it more likely the thread would get closed? Really shouldn't be this hard or arbitrary...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] pudgybunnyBry:
I think that it would just be moved to the General Android Q&A forum. There is obviously a bunch of interest in the device, it would just be nice to have the device supported by XDA to encourage further development.

You. Will. Obey. XDA Premium - Samsung SGH-T699
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] hendusoone:
Well, 25 days in, and I've decided to return the phone. There are a few issues with it that I just can't get past:

1. Lack of any sort of communication about an official update to Jelly Bean. Yeah, once dev work on this phone really gets going, that won't be as big of an issue. But I'd rather make sure that the carrier and manufacturer hears that as a reason for being dissatisfied enough to get a refund.

2. I've almost dropped the phone many times while using the keyboard due to the ALT key placement being only on one side of the keyboard. Trying to type an exclamation point (or any other ALT key combo on the left half of the keyboard) is very risky.

3. No matter how hard I try, or how many times I configure voicemail forwarding (even with contacting t-mo support!), I can't get it to actually use Google Voice for voicemail. Only carrier voicemail.

So... yeah. This isn't the keyboard phone for me, at least at a $500 price. Returning it, and crossing my fingers for another android QWERTY, or possibly getting one of the next nexus devices if any of 'em have a microSD slot (SwiftKey has gotten good enough that I don't really need a physical keyboard if the device is otherwise fantastic).

But, if this phone gets some sweet dev support (with a custom keymap to enable shift key to do number row symbols) and official jelly bean in the future, and there's a price drop (say, sub-$350 off contract), I may just come back to it. We'll see.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RazoE:
You're right, the S III only has a 1gz processor! That's 2 year old specs!!! I'm sorry to my relay buddies for comparing it. Forgiveness, please..:D
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] rpimonitrbtch:
Not a horrible fate, but certainly not worth the effort.

Indeed it would.

Could it help to add a wiki page? Seems to not require admin involvement.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] conejoblanco:
Sorry it didn't work out for you, but FWIW I didn't have a problem setting up Google Voice voicemail. I had to punch in the code for conditional forwarding (*004*<GV number>#) but once I did that it worked as it has on other phones.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] hendusoone:
Yeah... I tried both the dialer settings and the conditional forwarding code multiple times over the past couple of weeks, but no dice for me. It's probably something wonky on my account... though it works just fine on my G2 (with the same SIM). I'm sure I could get it working with enough effort and escalation through the various support tiers, but I don't really want to put in that much effort when I'll still have those other two issues.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] shinkinrui:
Used a bunch of my thanks for the device request thread. This device needs a forum, damn it. Even if this device isn't for me anymore. I hope the forum admins give more of a **** about that thread than they let on.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] ploopower79:
I love my relay 4g! And I still love my G2! Just the fact that we have working root/superuser abilities is fine with me...the majority or the root apps I use work, the keyboard is a smooth 5 rows, and I get excellent DL/ul speeds :D even without super devoted thread I don't mind using my G2 as it runs the awesome mimicry 1.5.0!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RazoE:
We need a recovery more than anything. I love messing with settings and other things, and it makes me wish I have a complete restoration available instead of restarting everything.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] ploopower79:
I totally feel you knowing you have a nandroid just feels great especially for the flashaholics lol and even if all we get is aosp (which I prefer anyways) I know this phone has so much potential! Reminds me of my girlfriends exhibit II
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] demkantor:
don't see a sd card slot... yeah big not gunna happen for me, so far this is the only thing I dislike about my nexus 7 and if it were my phone, I wouldn't have bought it
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
I agree if it doesnt have a SD slot i wont be gettin it but those pics dont show anything internal. If they were going to show the sd slot they would also show the sim slot and battery so im not too worried, so far no rumors have said it wont have an sd slot.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] austriker27:
Dang it looks pretty slick. Hope the Samsung keyboard is good though because I agree that HTC hardware is best.

Might have to swing by T-Mobile when they get it to test it! A bigger screen and faster processor would be great! Although the g2 it's doing real well and is as fast as my friend's newer phone

sent from my rocking HTC G2 loaded with ICS
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blackknightavalon:
I'm done buying HTC devices. They developed a policy that's antagonistic towards serious developers lately. This phone is looking better and better.

Sent from Spaceball One.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
If this device has a 720p screen running an s4 processor like the rumors state, then it will be a mighty fine device. The screen would basically be the highest ppi on any phone to date. Plus a 5 row keyboard? Seems unlikely that it would be 720p, but Samsung doesn't do qHD in their phones and 480x800 seems like a step backwards.

The only potential dealbreaker is if it lacks an sdcard slot IMO. If a variation comes to Canada I could totally see myself seriously considering it.

Of course then I'd have to immediately jump ship when November's Nexus QWERTY comes out, but still.. ;)

EDIT:

Looks like it will have an sdcard slot: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/supportOwnersHowToGuidePopup.do?howto_guide_seq=7950

2nd last screenshot.

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Boo, if those screenshots are correct it's definitely not going to be 720p. The screenshots reflect a 480x800 aspect ratio :(
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] loomism2:
What he said, so long as there is a Nexus device with a physical keyboard. I am fully expecting an HTC G3 coming this holiday season.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] misbehave:
After using my Mom's Galaxy Nexus and her Galaxy Tab2 for a while, I am not sure if I ever want to get their device for my own use.

I feel that their UI is not as user friendly as HTC or Motorola. (Or the fact that I am so addicted to HTC Sense).

I will have to test the UI in person first when it actually comes out to be able to tell if I will get this.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
You are probably a minority of that view. Most people prefer unmodified AOSP to any of the vendor skins!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RicAndroid:
I will be getting this when they have it available as refurbished. I got my wife a refurb G2X and it is running CyanogenMod 7.2 flawlessly. I am kinda jealous because I have the Sidekick 4G running on GenericGinger 4.1....basically, it's Froyo with a Gingerbread theme.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] agazza:
Wich will be better, this or the motorola photon Q 4G LTE?

sent from phone
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
The specs for the Relay haven't been officially released. That said, it will likely only support TMO's bands, have a lower resolution screen, and have a worse camera than the Photon. With the major benefits being removable sim and battery.

If it does by some miracle have a 720p screen, it will be considered a very good phone, but a large number of people here won't be able to really use it unless they're on TMO.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] agazza:
If i don´t care about warranty i should be able to use the photon in Sweden right? i have to be able to change the SIM myself?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
No, it's embedded. Like, it's soldered into the phone behind the non-removable battery. You'd have to take apart your phone & remove it yourself in order to use it on another carrier. People have tried & successfully done this though with other Motorola devices, however you risk compromising the integrity of the device.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] agazza:
No problemo.

Is it really soldered and not just screwed in, inside the phone?

Becouse soldering it loose sounds a bitt risky, but if it won´t get released globaly, it will be done.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] iwearthecape:
Found this from TmoNews. When you search Relay, a bunch of dead support links show up,. And it's got this listed in on one of the descriptions:

"Key FeaturesOne of T-Mobile’s fast phones – 42 mbps Beautiful 4.8” Super AMOLED HD (1280x720) screen Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ S4 Processor with 1.5 GHz"

Could be wrong, but the description doesn't sound like any other phones currently out right now.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
Not quite.. from TFA:

Don't hold your breath :)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Ace42:
Am i the only person who feels this phone is ugly as hell? I would rather wait for the next "Google/vanilla" phone for tmobile than buy this garbage. it will only get 1 update in its entire life and then be sent to EOL like the G2X.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] agazza:
the only reason to choose this is the qwerty. This is why i NEED it.

And good qwerty phones tend to get alot of xda and CM love.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] AB_Ablabab:
Even if the specs are placeholders, I can't imagine having a 4.8" screen paired with the thickness required by a QWERTY pad. That thing would be like carrying around a cinder block.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] mputtr:
carrying a cinderblock? what century did you started living under a rock? way to exaggerate the "thickness required for a qwerty"...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] mikeybot:
I was having issues too, until I realized that there was a menu in the phone screen where the voicemail option was. Then I removed my phone's number from voice and then added it back.

Works fine now
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RazoE:
Can't wait..:laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
I just ordered mine- I was waiting to order it through customer care, in the hopes that I would get a better deal. I got an offer similar to the magenta day sale a while ago. I should have bought it then. It should arrive in a few days....

sent while running with scissors