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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] salas2324:
I mean if you pay the full price for a phone then yeah we should be allowed. But if your an a new contract with a new phone you got for 200 instead of 600 $ then no. Its verizons phones.

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 4G LTE
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] noingwhat:
I disagree, that would be like saying if you went to BestBuy and bought a TV but used a $200 off coupon, then it's not your TV, it's BestBuy's.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Vorfidus:
This. They let you get the phone for a discounted price. In exchange, you guarantee them that you will pay them for service for that phone for the next two years. They make all that money back, plus some.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] noingwhat:
Exactly, it's not like their just trying to be nice (hahah, Verizon... caring about their customers). It's the fact you are agreeing to be locked into a 2 year contract with them, where you will be paying them a minimum of around $100 a month, and if you decide to bail early you have to pay them like $750.... more than the price of the phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] salas2324:
I disagree. There's a difference between a coupon and a contract. Its like if you buy a car from me and your still paying it off, then you crash it and run to me and ask for a new car because you don't know what happened to it. Yes I root and unlock my phones but my point is, I SEE why Verizon does this.

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 4G LTE
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] noingwhat:
Well yes, and in that regard I do agree with you. I didn't say that means you can take your phone back and ask for a new one for free, that's still wrong, but it is still your phone. Same with the car scenario. It wouldn't be right if you were to force me to go get a new paintjob or something on the car just because I still haven't fully paid it off, just like it wouldn't be fair if you denied me the right to paint it what color I want simply because I'm still making payments on it.

But no, under no circumstances would you be obligated to repair my broken car, and Verizon has no obligation to do the same. Problem is instead of just telling people to get lost when they bring in their bricked phones, Verizon helps to fix them, wasting money, and then tries to lock down the bootloader, wasting money, when all they have to do is tell people "No" and problem solved.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] salas2324:
The way I see it Verizon makes money either way

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 4G LTE
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Imatoasta:
Verizon locks them down so they can control the phones end of life. THEY want a say in when a phone stops receiving updates so they can then sell you the latest and greatest.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] m4bandit:
It's locked down in an attempt to better control the user experience. It's a preventative measure to avoid idiots from doing stupid things to their phones that they don't understand. Verizon isn't full of morons. It's full of people doing their jobs. They know SOMEONE will unlock it anyway but it's just one more road block in stopping some dumb kid from rooting his mom's phone.

When her phone crashes, mom calls in and says things like, "I don't know why this POS phone has been acting this way" and the reps ask her what kind of apps she has, she ends up saying, "Facebook, Instagram, Superuser, Calendar, Messaging..." She gets denied service, she rages and it costs everyone more money. It happens more often than you'd think.

Users that understand their phones and know what they're doing don't call in. They aren't the concern. It's the goobers with just enough knowledge to get in trouble that are the problem.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Imatoasta:
But you can mess up a locked phone just as easy with root and virtually all phones are rootable.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] equisbox:
I would tell them to **** themselves with their shared data plan. I want unlimited again :,( :mad:

Im a college student and couldnt afford to pay full price for the phone. Assface dickhead crackheads. Verizon just hates giving people breaks and greedy ****s!!!!!!

I wonder if i return this phone and cancle the upgrade and go back to my dinc if they will restore back to unlimited plan.

But i like this phone!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tpearsall:
When I buy a laptop and install Ubuntu over Windows, Dell doesn't void my warranty. They may deny me support for the OS.

The laptop's BIOS utilities also make it tough to brick a laptop. I bet it would be cheaper to make a hard to brick phone than it is to try to lock them down.

I agree with the previous post that planned obsolescence is a big part of it. Ask any iPad 1 early adopter about that.

Sent from my UNLOCKED Verizon Galaxy S3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] rushless:
The point is a user should not expect support if they root and then screw their phone up. Not for free, at least. Support costs money.

This is the core reason carriers do not allow rooting directly. Too many screwed up devices asking for support, or returned as defective.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Farabomb:
If you're reading this forum (and I do mean reading, not just scanning then posting questions that have been answered 100x before) you have a good idea of what you are doing. You know the risks and are smart enough to have the ability to fix most things that might go wrong. You are not the one calling Verizon support, mainly becasue you probably know more about the phone than they do. The "user experience" argument doesn't fly. If you want Fisher-Price's "my first smartphone" we all know where to buy one. They even have a nice picture of a fruit on the back. If you want a device that might last past your 2 year agreement and YOU have control over the device and what's on it then that's why you are here.

I'm fine with Verizon keeping the people that don't know better out of important parts of the phone. I as a customer should have a choice though. My ISP doesn't tell me what devices I can hook up and what data I can view, they just provide the pipe. Verizon should be the same, especially with what I understand of the block C usage agreement.

If you don't want your phone unlocked, don't unlock it. Don't tell me I shouldn't be able to unlock mine.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] salas2324:
Lol my friend has sent in 2 rooted phone with custom ROMs and got replacements every time. This is with cricket though. Before I send in or call service I'm smart about it. Hell I was having phone call problems on rooted stock, and before I went in I got everything back to full stock (problem still there). And went in. I'd rather be safe then sorry. Turns out my number didnt get ported fully and got a new one.

Edit: yes my friend doesn't know about rooting and shyt but still makes me do it for him because of the Themes and And Screenshot apps

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 4G LTE
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] skennelly:
Verizon pulls this crap because of people like you and your friend. If your moron friend can't take the time to read and learn about what he is doing, then don't help him. People like that should not have root access, let alone messing with flashing. You don't think anyone from vzw sees what he has done? Now they want to lock everyone out so they don't have to replace phones for morons.

Sent from my SCH-I535
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] newuser134:
So we were never actually able to turn off the hardware chip's secure boot and get into fastboot, we just got a bootloader that has the right signature itself to pass the chip enabled secure boot, but just won't check for subsequent signatures on boot.img or other partitions, right? So secure boot was not turned off, we just found a secure aboot that doesn't check for signatures by software during boot, does that correctly describe what happened?

---------- Post added at 02:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:52 PM ----------

I think we've all come to the conclusion already that Verizon didn't lock it to keep "morons", which you may call them, from messing up their phones, phones get messed up whether locked or not, they did it to control when you have to get a new phone. Before you start going around calling people morons, you should see if your statement really applies to the situation. Verizon would have done this even if no one bricked their phones. Otherwise other carriers would have done it too.

Also, read through the whole post, he said it's with cricket. Verizon locking the bootloader wouldn't affect cricket in any way.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] skennelly:
IMO, anyone who has to have their friend root their phone, then screws it up, then sends it to vzw without returning it to stock is a moron.

I did read the whole post, these people exist on vzw's network as well.

Sent from my SCH-I535
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] salas2324:
Please don't assume. Both phones OS where fine. He cracked the screen on the first phone and the replacement they gave him wouldn't connect to any network, stock or custom, occasionally. Do not call us morons because we KNOW what's happening. I tell him what he can and SHOULD do and he never has problems. So sir, you're a moron :)

Edit: this was ON cricket WITH a cricket phone. Not Verizon. Verizon had nothing to do with this. I was just putting it out there. I flash phones and never have a complaint. So please sir/madam... F*ck off.

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 4G LTE

---------- Post added at 02:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:49 PM ----------

1. he didn't have to. I offered when he found out what he could do.

2. I have NEVER screwed up rooting ANY phone.

3. It was Cricket and he didn't tell me his SCREEN CRACKED when he sent it to CRICKET

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 4G LTE
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] skennelly:
Didn't realize this was the cricket thread...

Sent from my SCH-I535
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] salas2324:
You obviously haven't read what I've posted.

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 4G LTE
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Seirÿu:
back on topic....

BOOM HEAAAAAAAAAAADSHOT!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] noingwhat:
I really don't understand what locking the bootloader really has to do with anything, people will still be able to flash roms (potentially bricking their device) with or without a locked bootloader, hell, even without root simply by using odin. Locking the bootloader really doesn't cut back on the number of bricks by a significant amount.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Lastb0isct:
Wish I had the cash to actually pay for my phone out-right...so I could still have my unlimited as well.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] m4bandit:
It's not an impenetrable wall. It's a roadblock. Verizon knows people will get around it. They're not worried about most people with the knowledge and skills to do things properly. Those people don't cost them money. The ones that skim threads and have no clue what they're doing to their $600 phones are the ones they're concerned with. They throw the roadblocks to discourage them.

The users like many found here don't call in asking for replacements and support for ****. They cost nothing. They are the ideal customer.

The users that post the same question over and over again in the development threads without bothering to search are the same people that manage to get stuck in a bootloop, can't figure out how to get out of it and then go calling VZW expecting help. They cost money in shipping, replacement phones and call in occupancy.

It's nothing personal. It's just business. Anyone that convinced themselves otherwise is a fool.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] noingwhat:
I guess then my big question is, why not just simply say no? Why does Verizon always comply with these people who knowingly voided their warranty? Why can't they simply take one look at the phone and realize what has happened, then tell them to fix it themselves? Why put the responsible people like us through all this mess?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kobibo:
Hi,

Can someone please recommend a radio version for jellytime version ?

and a RIL too :)

I'm having 12.65.60.29U_26.14.04.28_M
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Muikkuman:
Iif you haven't flashed a radio before then I would recommend to leave it as it is because radiaos is all region based.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kobibo:
I flashed couple of time a radio this is not an issue. I just wanted to know if you think that another version is better for this version?

I noticed that the battery on this ROM is very poor. The life of the battery with the same radio on different ROM was much better.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jimps:
just keep throwing radio's at it till you brick it :D

Battery not an issue on JT - am getting easily double from stock
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peteco0403:
Hi, I installed Omega v12 and I got this odd problem. The clock doesn't work while the phone is sleeping. I check automatic date and time but the time is wrong, it won't change.

I went back to stock rom, wiping everything and the problem still there. Any ideas?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MGSBigBoss:
I know using a new kernel will allow me to get the governor... but the 2 alternatives I have used/seen are Turbo and mjolnir... both have als turned off and such. Is there a way I can manually add a governor? If so please provide a link I can't find one on Xperia play forum.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sdojoin:
No. There's no way u can manually add gov. Unless u wanna make your own kernel that is.:p

Kindly Hit Thanks Button if i've help u in anyway.;)
[Kindle Fire General] CodenameDeadpool:
Anyone know what the word is on GPS and location services in Jelly Bean? I love Jelly Bean but went back to CM9(GedeRom) due to lack of said features. Thanks.
[Kindle Fire General] sweeds:
The Kindle has no GPS. Location based services, I believe via WiFi, work on twa_priv's CM10 ROM.

Sent from my CM10 KF w/ Tapatalk
[Kindle Fire General] CodenameDeadpool:
That's what I was referring to. Thanks. i'll check it out.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danividalg:
Hi,

I have got my Galaxy S2 Hard Bricked but I DO NOT MAKE ANY WIPE :eek::crying:

My S2 have:

- SiyahKernel S2-v4.1beta6

- Dual Boot activated

- Rom 1: Stock XWLPG with Android 4.0.3 with JKay framework and some gestures defined (script loaded afterboot with script manager) (daily)

- Rom 2: ParanoidAndroid JB 1.97 with Android 4.1.1 (only for test, only loaded 3-4 times)

How hard brick happened:

- Rom 1 loaded, low of battery (last time I see it was 18%)

- One hour later (aprox) I try to make a call with my S2 and see that is off and do not respond.

- I suppose that it is battery out.

- I try to charge it with a portable usb battery (as many times I do it).

- Some minutes later it does not appear the battery charging icon.

- Try to turn on the phone, it does not respond.

- Left charging for some more time on my pocket.

- Tried again but do not turn on.

- Tried to remove the battery and put it again. No turn on.

- Realized that the phone is hot (near camera) and portable battery is hot too.

- Disconected from the battery and left it on my pocket.

- One or two hours later reach my car and tried to charge the phone with a cigarette lighter USB charger.

- No turn on and no battery charging icon.

- Reach home and tried to charge with original wall charger.

- Tried to remove battery several times.

- Tried to enter dowload mode with USB jig (removing battery too)

- Sad and angry because of I think my phone is dead :crying::mad:

Today I will take my S2 to service support, I suppose that they will repair my phone under warranty.

Now my ask for HELP:

- Please, could anyone tell me if it is possible to save, keep or copy my phone's Internal SD memmory data?

There are some important data that I do not want to loose and I'm afraid that if they replace the motherboard to repair the phone then internal SD memmory is replaced too because it's integrated in the motherboard.

- Could anyone confirm if the internal SD memmory is integrated in the motherboard?

- Could anyone confirm if there is any way to backup the internal SD data somehow?

Thanks in advance and best regards :)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Immortalis:
You must say "goodbye" to your data on internal SD. eMMC chip is the part of the motherboard. Sorry.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] mohammedtheking7:
Would someone port the omegarom v4 from gio/ace to mini ??
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] Joselinho45:
that isn`t easy...
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] lightstar3103:
Search the guode to do it and do it by yourself
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] mohammedtheking7:
Would you make a video TUT of porting roms?
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] DQiB:
the problem why i wont port this rom is that i cant fix the phone.apk fc when u try to call
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] mohammedtheking7:
Ok thanx
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Kermit33:
4X HD price dropped by US$38 exactly 1 month after launch here to coincide with the price drop of Moto:( What kind of marketing strategy is this? First time I ever bought a LG smartphone and I feel frustrated though I am happy with my 4X.

What about other countries? Is there a price drop? The 4X is selling at approximately US$602 here from yesterday.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Pierre Duc:
It's 438e here, about 538 dollar. Dropped here a bit as well few days ago
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
Lg 4x hd p880

Portugal >>>>> LG Maximo 4X HD >>>>>650€

Poland >>>>> LG Swift 4X HD >>>>>>>1 999 zł (490€)

Mine cost me 2 299 zł, I'm living in Poland, price dropped too but, here things are a little weird... my other phone, LG GC900 cost me in 2010

1700 zł, 3 months later the price was 1800zł...

Comparing both phones the P880 is not much more expensive :laugh:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
price in Denmark:

3299,- DKR or €442 or $545
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
Price in Poland, min. 415eur
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
I'm wondering where you saw the LG Swift 4X HD at that price in Poland.

In physic stores the cheapest I found was in Euro-AGD, where I bought mine. On the Internet the cheapest I found was in CENEO.pl and the lowest price its 1894,39 zł, converting, its 464.31€ (themoneyconverter.com).

You have a secret dealer or you miss the conversion? ;)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
I bought my 4X in RTV EURO AGD too, 1999zł, that lowest price is from allegro.pl :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] muellersmattes:
Today it's on sale for 389€ in Germany. I bought mine for 479€ only 4 weeks ago.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] solarding:
Where do you see that price dude? Amazon still sells it for 439
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fire3d:
389€
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nikokazaa:
Price in Italy: €480
[LG Optimus 4X HD] zhuleicsu:
In China ¥3299=$518, a few days ago, ¥4399=$691
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Beready:
Bought mine for 490 euro in Belgium.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] solarding:
419 now, missed! :(
[LG Optimus 4X HD] suriya83:
I'm sure it is not too difficoult to find it for less then 400:

In italy on ebay: 399€

in austria, locked for hutchinson tho: 359€

http://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-...uennerstr-12-1210-wien-44801196?adId=44801196
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fujko:
The price of 4xHD is dropping by average 1€/ day in Germany - have a look at idealo.de
[LG Optimus 4X HD] epdm2be:
I see you're from Belgium about my area. The price you quote is probably CoolBlue.

Which is AFIAK the only "store" whom actually has it. Fnac groenplaats, the phone house (wijnegem shopping center), Allo Telecom Nationalestraat don't have it. Fnac only had the Prada phone though.

Perhaps we could meet and share experiences. I´m too interested in buying one. Though I just wait a bit because I expect the price to come down more when the 4X HD's successor will be revealed in September.

Then it'll be either the 4X or the new kid on the block (if it also can record calls which I absolutely require).

If interested Pm me.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] averygagaanroid:
Dropped about $20 in Australia. Waiting for it to drop a bit more. I may snap one for myself :D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Winudert:
That's sucks. I bought mine three weeks ago for 480 euros.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] epdm2be:
@Winudert: Yeah that sucks indeed. I've seen them advertised on Amazon.de for 435 euro's. Expect the price to fall down evenb more when (the few) shops starts ditching them in preparation for new stock (either iPhone 5, the win 8 Nokia's or the 4x HD's sucessor).

The weird thing is that I first had my interest on the Nokia 808 pureview (which I presumed would fall in price quickly after release). That device kept it's high price though. While I've seen HTC One X for 519 euro (now back up to 529 euro).

Anyway. The 4X HD seems atm the best price for a big-screen, quad-core android device. A pity that there still are a few niggles that LG should have been fixed from the O2X like the missing notification light.

I understand that there are 3rd party solutions to fix this. But you need to root your phone first. If LG put something similar in the official firmware then we wouldn't need to hack our phones for such a trivial thing. Not to mention that I can't imagine a little LED costing so much.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Kermit33:
I use the application NoLed which works great and no need to root.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dfreake:
i think it will drop more because of the 2nd monster quad core lg phone
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
i think not.

1. its a ghost launch yet to be seen

2. it will be asias only to start up with, so no one in europe can use it, and limited users in US for imports i guess.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] WillySonicteam:
The Lg Optimus 4X HD is the best.

A good smartphone for this price :400 to 430€

Same spects than Galaxy S3.(the S3 costs 520 to 550€)

The new Optimus G only have more power, and more resolution in the camera ,the other spects is a 4X.

This tecnology for this price... the 4X is the best.

But the Lg no is good in software,Lg in the 4X is different have more sopport.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] :
Haha! I got mine from eBay just for £219.99!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] LostInNorth805:
Its 296.98 at negrielectronics.com
[LG Optimus 4X HD] deownagee:
@ 1 of 2 stores its like €440 @ the other store €350....
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Flying_Bear:
i've seen it go for 200-250 eur on some websites. i got it for 300eur around 3-4 months ago, so it's expected that the price dropped even more.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] medseven:
Yes they have come down loads in price! The post's above you are all well over a month (atleast) old. But it does seem to be cheap in the UK!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Maczuga:
In Poland currently about 1000PLN (what gives around 232 euro atm.). Nothing changed since 2 months.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] puppetmaster22:
the first day of the sales in France it was at 199€ :p

sold out now
[LG Optimus 4X HD] tristaoeast:
Almost 100euros cheaper than mine wheni bought 1 week ago! xb
[LG Optimus 4X HD] andypv4:
Price in Bolivia (South America) 340 US$
[LG Optimus 4X HD] roshea66:
I got mine about a month ago from Kogan (Australia, but grey market stock from Taiwan) for $AU269 delivered, which is $US245 at today's rates (our dollar has fallen in value recently).
[LG Optimus 4X HD] GizModio:
I bought mine back in February at £199 :cool:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] KiD3991:
Price now in Msia RM949 = $299 + -
[LG Optimus 4X HD] GalaxyVolvoZ:
Now its cheaper than LG Optimus F5 in Germany (225-280 Euro) haha

Cheaper than most Beginnerphones / Midend Phones
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dfreake:
230US here at brunei
[LG Optimus 4X HD] TheNoticer:
Germany 249 € maybe more people will join because of the cheap price :beer:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] luisoman2000:
Ordered mine yesterday on amazon, paid $270 plus 25 for shipping to honduras. Looking forward to messing with it.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fatality911:
Costs 392$ in Egypt Right now
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Nalefyre:
Bought mine recently for 300€ in Finland, good price considering that Nexus 4 for example costs 400-500€ in here.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fguzmant:
USD 310 in Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/LG-Unlocked-International-Generation-Products/dp/B008MHAHA6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375885730&sr=8-2&keywords=lg+optimus+4x+hd
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Subtleone:
I paid $285 at Amazon a couple of months ago.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] omontero:
I paid $280 for it last month in Amazon.