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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Nocturin:
Here's a start. I don't understand most of the technical things are discussed but i'll add more info about these .qmg files as i find it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=792953

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=732311

gets better : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=779718

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Also, I got this weird error today whenever my phone lost service in building (normal deadspots). This hasn't happened before I flashed the MA2 rom. After I get back into the service area, I clear the errors and they go away until another deadspot.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
Odd indeed, I wonder if you are roaming/switching carriers? Maybe try to see what networks are available in the dead spot?

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I found this, although I don't know if any more work was done. It could be a fun project.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=792953

http://quramsoft.com/solution_e/sub_04.asp
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] tany.jags:
Free RAM

Long press the home button, jumplist appears, at bottom you'll see a button 'Task Manager', once into task manager, select the 'RAM' tab....there you go....
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] onebornoflight:
Good news. He said to go ahead and gave me a bunch of tips including fonts.

He makes his boot animations on Adobe Aftereffects, the font used is ProggyCleanTT. Then he finishes it using Photoshop and the font "Perfect DOS VGA 437"

No clue about converting them to .qmg format.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Nocturin:
Converting to .qmg will be the most difficult. It would prolly be easier to circumvent it entirely. Something about the kernel calling for the .qmg file after the firstboot1 logo. Everything else is just a google away :).

edit: I haven't used after effects and I wont have the time to start investigating the files until monday or so (work is busy as heck this week).

I might be able to get some more linkage about samsung and it's proprietary boot later tonight though.

That boot animation( emulates a POST screen ) is freaking awesome!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] onebornoflight:
You should have a PM with more details.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] onebornoflight:
Yep... that's why I want it on mine lol. He is also working on an app to automatically flash the boot animations, and adding our device and our format to the app would be awesome for him as well as us.

Sent from my SGH-T699 using the xda-developers app.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] misteropinion:
I must have foolishly said "No" to the CWM fix, and I had a difficult time getting root back (I had to use the debugfs trick), but I've got CWM and root again, too.

So, probably not actually flashing the update is a good idea for most folks.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Nocturin:
I agree, it would be awesome to add the device, but the chance of ours being flashed like others is slim to nine.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] WetLlama:
Sorry to keep spamming up this thread, but since I'm getting the phone in the next couple of days, I have questions... :)

Has anyone attempted to do a 4.0.3 stock ROM? Is it even possible? I had a Pantech Marauder for a month (got a free upgrade to the Stratosphere 2) or so that had .3 on it, and it was much better, in my opinion, than 4.0.4...

I know there are threads around XDA regarding ROM porting and compiling, but I didn't know if anyone had any interest or desire to attempt something like that.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gtmaster303:
UNLOCKED!!!!

Yahoo! Confirmed the sim unlock method works on the stock rom.

Just got my phone today and within a few minutes, my phone is happily unlocked and running on AT&T!!!!

Make it official guys. Unlock method as posted here works no problem.

Instructions are a breeze and and I can confirm it will work with or without a foreign sim card. Although you should have a foreign sim card to test anyway. :D
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
I suppose that was a used phone you bought from your buddy? ;)

Did you see the recent updates to the DMCA that makes it illegal to unlock phones that are carrier locked without the carriers permission? I think it only applies to new phones bought after a few weeks ago when the DMCA was updated. I suppose that by including the unlock function in the rom, they are giving their permission, but I'm not a lawyer. I'm not agreeing with the interpretation of the DMCA, just pointing it out.

sent while running with scissors
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gtmaster303:
Lol, you could say that...

But yes, these unlocking laws are ridiculous. It's my phone. I can do with it as I please...

I just hope T-Mobile doesn't ruin this hack by shutting it out with an OTA update.

I still have a Captivate Glide as well, and it's a tough decision... I have to give one of these phones to my sister. The hardware is incredible on the Relay 4G. It actually has every feature I'm missing from the Glide. All the way down to the soft touch back and notification LED. But dev support is still in infancy, as not that many people have this phone. Not to mention we don't even have a friggin thread yet.

Hmmmmm.... Decisions, decisions...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
That's the benefit of rooting. We can control what software we use on the phone.

sent while running with scissors
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] TheDigitalBug:
I tried this cwm version of the debloated rom and it's not working very well. When I boot the phone, many of the processes start crashing including gallery, gapps, and phone. I am not sure why.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Nocturin:
Did you wipe system/cache, /data, and advanced[menu]>fix permissions?

Wiping /data might be needed. I had issue with my own phone until I flashed gee one's CWM. fixed permissions, wiped data/cache/system, install zip from sd. I had to fix permissions while opening a file, too. Make sure you select yes.

Of course, back up all your data before any time you touch the /data partition, as local storage on the phone will be wiped.

Good luck!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dillalade:
Hi all

Curious as to what's new in these new ota roms some of you seem to be tweaking as such?

What ultimately from a user experience point of view is new or different compared to the initial stock rom which shipped with our relays?

Thanks in advance.

Sent from my Relay CM9. Buttery Smooth
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] TheDigitalBug:
Yup, I did all those things. Maybe it's got something to do with this newest CWM. When I look at the log file, it says stuff like "Can't partition unsafe device" Gotta test on the older CWM see if it's still giving me issues. Worst case, I'll try flashing with Heimdall.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
I really couldn't tell. I didn't notice anything groundbreaking. It's probably just bug fixes. Maybe uncle samsung pushed out something for the sgs3 and tossed us a bone?

sent while running with scissors
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dillalade:
Cheers for responding.

I will stick with CM9 in that case, I hate touchwiz reminds me of Vista (a fat pig using up my RAM)

CM10 is gonna be so refreshing when it gets released, can't wait to see what 'Project Butter' in particular will do for our device, as it is cm9 is ridiculously smoth.

Sent from my Relay CM9. Buttery Smooth
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
Can you send or post your log files? I'm very curious about what might be causing this.

sent while running with scissors
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
Have you ever actually compared the no-contract prices? No?

Ok, well works like this; ad $300 to the US no-contract prices and you get the CDN price.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
The day after it went on sale I bought my Desire Z off contract for the same price as the G2 on TMO.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
Benchmark basically beats the sgs3 out of the box. Custom rom with oc kernel will really make it fly.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
Did anyone notice the disparity between the cpu score vs the io/memory scores? It doesn't change my mind about the phone, but is this expected for an s4? I can understand graphics being faster because it's a smaller screen.

sent from my transformer
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
It wasn't even available in Canada until MONTHS after the US, and was NOT the same phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
I bought it the day it went on sale in Canada, obviously. It didn't come out MONTHS later, it came out LESS than a month after the G2 was released in the US. While it wasn't the "same phone", I'm also making the assumption that it could get rebranded or renamed for a Canadian carrier's needs, since that seems to happen quite often.

The whole point of it coming to a Canadian carrier isn't for me, though. Like I said I would get it from friends in the US before it would launch here (if ever). The point of it being available on a Canadian carrier is for fellow Canadian DZ users, including a few friends who would like to upgrade their DZs to it.

I know I shouldn't respond to your trolling any further, but from what I gather the off contract price for a new device like the SGS3 was $50 more in Canada. Not sure where you got $300 from. You honestly think a new device like the SGS3 in Canada off contract was $899 plus tax?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] WarningHPB:
(God damn its nice to be back typing on a physical keyboard lol been using my nexus s for a while)

Why can't they just release this over here in the uk, I'll have to find a way of importing one at this rate
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Frag1le:
Yeah why can't they release this in the EU.

The resolution (800x480) is a bit of a disappointment.

I still hope for a 1280x720 qwerty device with like a >4,3" display, although I'll probably look into importing this phone from the US cause i don't think we'll see any qwerty phone in the EU anytime soon.

The other rumored qwerty phone, the Sprint LG LS860 "Cayenne", will also be getting a WVGA display, so that LG won't be better then the SGSR4G in any aspect.

But even if it did, it's still a LG.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/20/rumored-sprint-lg-ls860-cayenne-leaked-photo/

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/01/lg-lS860-cayenne-sprint-lte-fcc/
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
Robelus charges $900 for a fu*king flip phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
[YOUTUBE]E_FVbyjvySg[/YOUTUBE]

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Benchmark results from that video/review site seem to point to an S3 CPU, despite all the recent news that it's an S4.

http://www.lazytechguys.com/reviews/review-samsung-galaxy-s-relay-4g-for-t-mobile/
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Frag1le:
This would be a deal-breaker for most.

Well above screenshots still promise more performance than a Snapdragon S3.

This reminds me of a message under the tmonews.com article:

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/some...g-benchmark-scores-and-all/#comment-650633451

....Ok explain why would it be cheaper on prepaid no commitment versus "off contract" essentially pre-paid and off contract are basically the same thing a device with no commitment.....hmmm...I bet the pre paid one has an S3 processor lol

Perhaps this reviewer had the 'prepaid' version ;)

That would be something lol, 2 versions of this phone.

[edit] The HTC One S (with S4 SoC) gets like a 6900~7000 Antutu score, the 300 point difference could be caused by Touchwiz being slower then Sense.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
Any issues with the benchmarking in that video are obviously a result of the incompetence of meathead making the video. Painfully retarded and obvious brainless idiot.

1) Android 4.0 vs 4.1 --> big difference in benchmarks.

2) Background processes (services) --> big difference in benchmarks.

3) preproduction demo unit vs "the real thing" --> big difference in benchmarks.

It is an S4.

PERIOD.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Frag1le:
What crawled up your ass?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Frag1le:
Lazytechguys updated their review with some more benchmarks.

http://www.lazytechguys.com/reviews/review-samsung-galaxy-s-relay-4g-for-t-mobile
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
LOGIC.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
So on the lazytechguys website, the quadrant benchmark dominates the One X, while the antutu benchmark for the One X dominates the SGSR4G. Is this a bias of the benchmark? The antutu benchmark is closer to the Samsung Galaxy Note, which I think is an S3. I looked around, but Samsung has too many devices that are named Samsung Galaxy something to make a definative comparison. What happen to the good ol' days when you bought a phone, not a brand?

Any way, if anyone could shed some light on the qualitative benchmark differences, it would be appreciated. Is is possible that one benchmark is tested with an S3 and the other with an S4?

Edit: OK, I did the obligatory 20 seconds of google searching and found this comparison with the One S vs One X. The quadrant scores for the One S and similar to the quadrant scores for the SGSR4G, makes sense since they seem to have similar hardware in my naive opinion.

http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-x-vs-one-s-benchmarks-battle-for-the-top-spot-20120405/
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
Yea I was wrong in my previous assumption. It matches the One S and the SGH-T999's benchmarks for sure. Now I'm curious what the keyboard itself is like since I've read a few reviews that say it's flat & non-responsive.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
Well the antutu benchmark seems off to me, but it might be a bias or a different phone/processor. I'm certainly not a benchmark expert.

I was considering the One S, but the lack of micro SD card was a deal breaker. I just felt like it was an attempt to push me to someone's cloud. Despite the bad name, the SGSR4G seems to have the features for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
It isn't just a "bit" off, its right whacked. Notice how gnex even beats it (at least in the CPU portion, if not overall).... seriously a dual cortex A9 against a higher clocked dual cortex A15???

There is something severely wrong with those benchmark results. They are definitely NOT indicative of the real performance.

BAHAHAHA!!!!! I just ran through an antutu with Vision. Mine scored 2500-ish. The crazy thing is that there were a bunch of Visions in the list reading 7000+, i.e., FASTER THAN RELAY, FASTER THAN GALAXY NEXUS.

This is such bogus crap, totally worthless.

Antutu = FAIL.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] shinkinrui:
I should've known to check the trusty G2/Desire Z section for discussion on this device! Haven't been here in awhile, since my decision to jump to a touchscreen-only device. Man was that a mistake ... but anyway, I've now got my sights set on this device, and it looks to be a decent choice to me, although I do wish it had a higher resolution/larger screen. Hard to say no to a 5-row QWERTY with a S4 chip though, so I'll be picking mine up in the next week or so :)

I took a trip to the T-Mobile store today to check out the device. Not actually out on display, but the employees there didn't mind getting it out for me to take a look.

The device is very snappy, zero lag when navigating, and the camera responded very well. The keyboard itself was like a breath of fresh air to me. I may be a little biased since I haven't used one for awhile, but I can say with certainty that it's a lot better than the MyTouch 4G Slide keyboard. I'd put it about on par with the G1 keyboard, with the G1 keyboard edging it out slightly; if the G1 keyboard is an A, I'd give this keyboard a B+. The keys ARE flat, but they are spaced well and have just enough height to make touch-typing comfortable. The tactile feedback is adequate; unlike the MT4GS, these keys don't feel stiff/sluggish and they "pop back" well enough.

All in all, I'm looking forward to this device. Hope we see some more in-depth reviews soon, I wasn't very impressed with the lazytechguys review.

Oh, one more thing. We need to start requesting a forum for this phone now, if there's gonna be a decent amount of T-Mobile qwerty lovers going for it ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
Cameras are still broken. Most everything else works. More to follow soon...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dillalade:
So frikin excited about CM10.

Great news @ 'mostly everything works'

Kickin'a$$ is TeamApexQ

BIG Props :thumbup:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] mikeybot:
Somewhat cromulent question with regards to the non-functioning camera issue.

What seems to be the replacement app of choice with the native camera app doesn't work?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gtmaster303:
I don't think it's so much to do with the app, as it is to do with the rom itself. It's not as simple as running a different app. Jellybean or any version of AOSP android was never meant to work on this phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] mikeybot:
Ah ok. Thanks.

I've noticed this is a issue with ROMs from time to time, but have never used any with that issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gtmaster303:
Almost all phones will have that issue (and they did when CM9 and CM10 were being built) because the framework is totally different. I could explain further, but it's beyond my head. Unless the rom is based off touchwiz, expect things to be broken, especially the camera.

I'm looking into the current stock rom and seeing if I can make a AOSP looking wiz-less (pun intended) variant. Anyone want to help guide me? PM please.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dillalade:
If your referring to CM9 then these are installed on my setup and work great:

HDR Camera

ZOOM Camera

Silent Camera

Camera ZOOM

All great interim substitutes for the current native camera app drawback.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] s0medude:
Doesn't Steve K. still work at Samsung? You would think that this would be a non issue.. getting proper camera support.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
I don't know who Steve K is but if you have a guy pm me with the details, please.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gtmaster303:
Lol, I think he's talking about Steve Kondik. You know, Cyanogen?? :p

Either way, I don't think he can be of much help. Yes he works for Samsung, but he doesn't have anything to do with the roms for their devices.

Different department...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
http://db.tt/xjAvIRPT Tethering fix for MA2 stock

http://db.tt/iEfsXunl MA2 baseband if you're on CM and care to upgrade. Samsung radios almost always offer no improvements and there's no difference I can see.

http://db.tt/tsZc9hLA Odin flashable version of a newer CWM, fixes folder layout problems on CM10.1

http://db.tt/n3woOEN1 CWM flashable version of a new CWM.

http://db.tt/mPiKehtD A surprise :D
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gtmaster303:
Holy *&%$, this guy is on fire...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] croogrog:
Thanks just isn't enough Nardholio...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] orange808:
Thanks, nardholio! I've never run stock; I installed CM9 the day I got this phone and I never looked back. (For people with flickering issues, I recommend Chainfire's EGL driver, forcing acceleration, and CABC.)

If it doesn't already exist, that CM10 probably needs a thread. I know it will attract a fair amount of complaining, but the trade off is worth it: more bug reports from a wider audience.

I can't install anything right now--too much work to do and I need a rom that can handle my daily driver workload, but I can't wait to get some free time.

Thanks again. When complete, CM10 will guarantee these phones a long productive life. Now, we just have to wait for the Play Store to catch up to JB.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] John5788:
Sweet thanks. Picking it up to run on my phone right now.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] mikeybot:
Potentially stupid question. Aside from the CWMs that are labeled how they are to be flashed, are the other 3 flashable from CWM?

(just want to make sure).

Also, next time I get paid, you are so getting some a donation!

Thank you for your amazing and hard work
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] croogrog:
All the *.zip files should flash with cwm. Use the odin flashable cwm to get started if you need to. Make sure to do a backup and clean up your system first. I am using this cm10 now. It was quick and easy to get it going.

Is there a google play store app I can use with this cm10, and what should I I do/read to get it working?

Sent from my SGH-T699, the best phone with a keyboard.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] John5788:
I flashed the others from CWM just fine

Use this for gapps

http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121212-signed.zip
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] wedg11383:
I've been using the new CM 10 Rom for most of the day and I'm very excited. Performance is excellant. Jelly bean features are great.

I did have several observations/questions for anyone else using it.

Lock Screen seems weird. A lot of the features are blanked out in the settings and I can't seem to adjust it the way I usually do.

Had a hard time getting adb to recognize the device. Kept stating the device was offline.

Bluetooth connects way faster and more consistently in the car then CM9 did. Strangely it does not want to stream metadata which CM9 usually could.

GPS seems to lock on very fast. Improvement over CM9.

WiFi tether still seems to be nonfunctional. I need to test more.

Very intermittently, text on the screen "tears" for lack of a better description. It occur when scrolling and seems to just go away after a minute or a reboot.

Call recorder is working using standard api and recording from the mic. Would love if it could work using the rooted kernel method.

Camera is not working in anyway. No alternative apps, not barcode scanner. Nothing. Just a warning.

Lets get a thread going for this so we can share info.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] croogrog:
Play store does not seem to be able to download anything.

Google Talk is working well.

Do I need to install all of the apks for gapps? I only wanted a few. It seems as easy as editing the zip to remove the bloat or are there dependencies I am not aware of?

I just saw this makes 1000 posts! That's got to prove we deserve our own forum!

Sent from my SGH-T699, the best phone with a keyboard.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gtmaster303:
Nardholio, please make a CM10 thread when you get a chance
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RazoE:
I got the text "tearing" mentioned earlier. Also no camera would work. Strange thing, there are no camera apps installed and nothing in the system files, but theres a camera icon in my app drawer that cant be removed and if its clicked on, itll actually open the camera app! Its still broken but that could be the source of our issues. Anyone else?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] croogrog:
My camera app is the same as yours. I have not seen any text "tearing" yet.

Still wondering about the play store download problem. Searching has yet to yield any helpful results.

Sent from my SGH-T699, the best phone with a keyboard.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RazoE:
I had no issues downloading from the play store. Both 3g and Wi-Fi
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] wedg11383:
I had no issues with play store either. You flashed the Jelly Bean gapps? Maybe reflash it or clear all data from the app. I had to do that because google search was force closing when I first flashed.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] John5788:
Upgrade your ADB. I was having the same problem until I updated to 1.0.31

$ adb version
Android Debug Bridge version 1.0.31

It seems as if the new versions of adb support a secured session. It asks to authorize some sort of key when connecting from the computer.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] wedg11383:
You're right. That was one of several things I tried all at once. That must be what did it because i also got a confirmation screen on the phone.

Another point in case anyone doesn't know, to unlock developers options you need to click on the build number seven times in the phones settings. I didn't know this and it doesn't seem intuitive but maybe that's me.