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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] junrider:
If I posted my scores on their forum theyll probably bite my head off. If I applied the same tweaks (not that I know how) and posted a score several thousands higher than theirs, I'll probably get some hate mails and tell my why Im even in their forum ruining their parade :angel:. We know how sensitive some of those guys are over there.

Update: Just posted my quadrant score on their forum just for comparison, hopefully noone will get mad :fingers-crossed::D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] hoss_n2:
But I think on the rumored screen resolution of the nexus 10 (2560×1600) it will perform same if not slower than our note (like what happened with the new iPad ) it is actually a little slower than the iPad 2
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
Well I pulled the trigger on the Note this morning. I figured that if the Google announcement Monday blows me away I can always bring it back. I won't bother to go into my impressions so far in this thread, but I do want to comment on one thing.

WTF is with that short cable. The damn thing cost $550 and you couldn't give me more than 3 feet of wire?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jjdevega:
Wondered the same thing myself. I had to buy an extension cord so that I have room to actually use it during charge time. It also takes a good 6 hours for my tablet to charge at 20% One thing I loved about the Infinity is its ability to charge within 3 hours or less and it last just as long before another charge.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
Well I am totally useless. I said to myself, as I was driving to pick mine up, that I was going to wait until I heard the Google announcement before I tried to root this thing. Well that thought didn't last too long. I just can't live without root. So the dead is done. Maybe I got lucky, but it was pretty easy.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
It's been that way since the OG G-Tab. I remember reading their explanation was that it was to prevent the tablet from being knocked down by someone tripping over the cord since it's heavier and used vertically which a phone isn't. Korean logic I guess. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jjdevega:
Come to think of it your right! My wife's G-Tab has the same cord length.

Is it normal for it to drain while charging and playing a game? I was just playing Modern Combat 3 and noticed that it was draining.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] banderos101:
I bought a longer cable before i realised that the power end was usb, and that i had several usb extensions, duh

if you have one yourself test it out save yourself some money and time if it works
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
I had purchased a sixfoot cable from amazon. It works BUT, it charges at a VERRRRYYYY SLOWWWW RATE compared to stock cable. It seemed like for the longest time it stayed at same percentage. Then if you use the tab while charging, it grains faster than it charges. Stock cable charges way faster and still charges just fine if I use the tablet while charging. I put the cable back in it's package and haven't used it since..lol. maybe ill give it another try. I do love the extra length of it. But I swear it seems to charge alot slower.

I guess it really does matter what kind of cable you using to charge device. Not all cables are made or spec the same. Maybe ill give the cable another shot down the road.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
After a few discharge cycles you should notice it charging faster and lasting longer on a single charge. A bunch of us compared stats and 20% to 100% in about four hours seems average. The closest thing I've used it for to Moden Combat was CoPilot for navigation and, powered off of the AC adpater, it held its charge without draining but didn't actually increase the amount of charge available. Maybe that'll improve for you with some charge cycles too.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
Well if I can believe GSam battery monitor, the 6 ft. extension cable I have laying around will charge at the same rate as directly plugged in. I'm at 92% right now and it shows 27 minutes till full with or without the extension.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jjdevega:
Alright ill discharge it tonight thanks. Hopefully things improve as far as charge time. Although a little dissapointed that while playing MC3 and it connected to the charger, having the percentage go backwards is something new to me. Just noticed that its charging at 4.002mV. On the Infinity I would get 7 to 8mV. Which explains why charge time is so short. Is 4.002mV normal?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] KoRoZIV:
The touch response is not so great while charging, it's annoying and I try not to do that.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] smrsxn:
All -

Can you try to reverse the way you put charger in and see if that helps.... we had an issue with prime's metallic back not being grounded via charger and this trick helped a bit.

Did not help me too much, but who knows it may help you...

Lets start a new thread for this though.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] gmfeny:
Huh? I think it can only go in 1 way
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] smrsxn:
Sorry for not being clear.

I mean try to turn around the charger and put it in the AC socket.

The US charger shipped with the tablet can be inserted into the AC socket both ways.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
When I'm at home or in the office I use my Note while it's charging in the universal dock. I've never noticed any difference in touch behavior. Something similar was happening to some folks on the One X forum where the majority of people had no issues and a small percentage did. It turned out it was fluctuations in the power the adapter was receiving.

Here's a vid from a while ago. My Note's charging in it.

[YOUTUBE]UDvXvoAgAT8[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] junrider:
AC source wont matter in which way you plug it, your getting 120v or what ever your outlet puts out on either direction.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] KoRoZIV:
Actually it matters for Asus :D I had a tf101 that was vibrating while charging, and that was the solution.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jaydubbbbs:
I asked my electrician about this and this is what I understand. In a normal three prong outlet you have the two narrow parts and a lower round hole. The round hole is for grounding, not necessary for us. The other two are actually different. One is slightly wider, for some things this doesn't matter, but I work with lots of power tools and they only plug in one way. You can not turn it 180 degrees and plug it in. It has to do with polarity and the fact that AC current does alternate positive to negative like times a second, but the two prongs actually represent a "load" or hot side where the power actually is fed, and the other is the neutral which completes the circuit. On another note, things that have a ground sometimes use the ground to complete the circuit. So, for some devices/tools it doesn't matter which way it is plugged in. But some things are affected. I'm a carpenter, not an electrician, but this is what i understood when i talked to the electrician i use.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] madsquabbles:
yep, upside down and i'd actually get a slight shock through the cable when it touched my leg.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] asustf700t:
had both, i feel the samsung runs smoother, is better all round and MORE RAM!!!! :cowboy:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mike619:
Just picked up a note 10.1 today from best buy. Writing this on it now actually. I went through two infinitys already. Asus seems to have some quality control issues. My first one had screen separation issues and wouldnt receive OTA updates. The second one had a lot of light bleed at the edges and the power button was loose. I returned it today in exchange for a note 10.1.

I must say, the user experience is a lot smoother on this over the infinity. Browsing was jerky on the infinity and it would take some time for pages to render. Im guessing its because of the higher resolution. The note i find to be a bit more comfortable to hold as well, enen though its thicker. Dare i say the infinity felt...too thin?

So far im liking the note over the infinity. I will say that coming from the infinity, the difference in screen resolution is very noticeable. Things seem to be a bit fuzzy on the note. Again, thats coming from the infinity. The screen on the note is by no means of poor quality.

With both devices set to receive jelly bean, id be interested to see how much better the infinity can perform. But as it is now, id give the note the upper hand as far as fluidity.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mtunender:
Keep us posted in the next few days if you feel the same way. My favorite part of the Note is the "new" feel of it. My least favorite thing about the ASUS is the quality control.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] spartan1132:
I'm no expert in the hardware or software side of wacom technology, but I do have an Intuos 4 for my desk top and from my understanding the pen input is interpreted almost as a mouse. There is an sensor within the tablet (screen in the case of GN10.1 and Cintiq line) that uses electro magnets(no need for batteries this way like ntrig, it is also more accurate) that are within the pen and screen to sense where the pen is. For example if you hover over the screen without touching you should (if the setting is on) see almost like a cursor as to where the pen is hovering on the GN10.1. From my interpretation it should work with a launcher as long as the device has the driver(if that's what it's called for mobile OS) of the sensor, I know samsung has released the SDK for the device so that should help for custom ROMs. Not to familiar with exactly how building and flashing custom ROMs works yet. But maybe someone who is could elaborate with how the wacom tech would fit in.

I know the original note worked with launchers just fine so I imagine the 10.1 will play nice as well here some proof from coldfustion on youtbe, his note looks nothing like stock TW and he even uses it as sort of a desk top in one video. I can't post a link yet as I'm a noob.

I've been waiting patiently for the Note 10.1 as a portable digital sketchpad. As for comparing to Infinity and other tablets I really think resolution is overrated and color representation is more important. No one complained the iPad 2 had a bad PPI when most android tablets had surpassed it. I was delighted to hear that the screen on the Note 10.1 has been improved from the original GTab.

I'm hoping my Note 10.1 will be at my work by Monday.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] richB7:
I have had the Tf101, Tf201, Acer A700 and just this week returned a TF700. I can say without a doubt that the Note is a better tablet. Perfect? No but a lot closer than any of the prior mentioned. Snappy tablet even on ICS. Jelly bean will only make it better where the Infinity will depend on it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
There's also a second optional full-size S-Pen with an eraser that seems like it may be more granular.

GALAXY 10.1 NOTE BLACK S PEN 8PI 2 PLASTIC 2EA 3 RUBBER 3EA TOOL

http://www.gearzap.com/official-samsung-s-pen-with-eraser-for-galaxy-note-10-1.html

http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop...00200500148_BNY6142P.shtml&order_id=942608200
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] spartan1132:
Thanks for the heads up. I did see that earlier in the thread, or another Note 10.1 thread. I've did a fair share of reading that video they make you watch when you sign up is scary :laugh:

There's another pen that artist have been using with the note and windows tablets with a wacom digitizer called Axiotron. It feels more like the wacom pen from what people have said for any artist out there. So people using there Note 10.1 for work may want to take a look into that pen as well.

On another note (pun intended) the intous and cintiq pens didn't work the original note, so good chance they won't with the Note 10.1. I will be sure to test when I get mine though.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lardo5150:
Disclaimer: I am loyal to no brand. I am no fanboy for anyone.

That said....

I returned my TF700 tonight in exchange for the Note. Some clown bought the last one right as I walked in so they ordered me one. Grey 32gb. i want white but BB does not have them yet. I will get a 30 day with it and since I bought the first 700 during tax free weekend here (I returned my second), I dont have to deal with tax on all my exchanges now and get that 30 day return with each one.

My Asus was super fast, and looked great with the screen. BlueTooth did not work. It had light bleed and I was worried it would get worse.

The benchmarks I am seeing on the Note beat the 700 already. I will be losing that beutiful screen. As long as the build quality is good, BT works, and the thing is snappy (and by snappy it has to be as snappy as the 700) I will be happy. If it is not as snappy, it is going back and I will get another 700.

Here is hoping for a good tablet.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
Well add me to the list Barry ;) your comments on device swayed me to try it out. I went to best buy and got it. I can always return within 30days and get my money back or switch for infinity pad. They didn't have either tablet on display for me to test out first. I said f it, get me the note 10.1. It was funny because the apple guy came over to me, while the other guy went in back to get my device, and asked me what was it about the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 thatmade me want it. I explained the specs and the pen. He couldn't even get out his recommendation on ipad3 because he already knew(based on what I was saying) that I knew all about apple and android. I said biggest gripe against Ipad was no file system browser like android and pc has. But I said since best buy has a good policy, if I don't like the note, ill exchange it for an infinity pad or an ipad3. I considered an ipad3 also since my first tablet was the ipad1. I got the 16gb version on Note 10.1. It was all they had in stock and it's white.

@Barry which size did you get? If my storage runs low, can I install app or game data to microsd card? Can't remember if this allowed on ICS or not. I have a feeling I will want the 32gb version. Ill see how it goes. With games n such, I can easily eat up 16gb. I'd rather pay the extra$50 and get 32gb. Ill call nextweek to see when they get 32gb in stock and will likely exchange for one. If I like the note of course ;)

First impressions: haven't really messed with it much aside from settingup tablet, installing essential apps like thumb keyboard, and installed a graphic heavy game, Nova3, to test out how it handles things. I was kinda mad I couldn't install my tegra3 optimized games. I briefly forgot this not tegra3...lol. good thing I have my nexus 7 for those ;)

Display: actually kinda impressed. Its not as bad as some reviews made it seem.

Sound: I'm loving these stereo speakers. Nice and loud

UI: everything flows smoothly. Virtually no stutter. I got rid of some of those tw Widgets. Still need more time to really tax this exynos quad core. Is this the 28nm quad core A-15?

Design & Build: i like it. The plasticky feel is not bad at all. It looks and feels high quality. Its not metal like prime but still feels good to hold and is light.

I benchmarked my devoce with quadrant and Rl sqlite. I initally wasnt impressed. Reason being i was doing an unfair comparison. My stock rom nexus 7 with custom kernel vs. Stock note 10.1. Note scored like 5400 or so overall in quadrant. My nexus 7 scores around 7000. Rl sqljte for note was like 19 or 20 secs. My nexus 7 gets 14 secs overall. But like i said, an unfair comparison plus im more concerned with real world performance. So i got that bias out of my head.

So far i like it. About to go on a mini road trip so i will be messing around with it on the drive(gf will be driving..lol). I haven't got to test out web browsing and such. Will likely be tethering connection from phone for that on the road.

All in all, looking good so far. Can't wait to really dive into this and see what its all about. Especially with the pen. Which is nicely integrated.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lardo5150:
Shoot me a PM after you use it tonigth and tomorrow, I would like to hear your thoughts about it staying smooth and such.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mtunender:
Let us all know what you think please.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] yumms:
What about the battery life, how long does the Note last with video and web browsing?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ilostmypistons:
Hurry up with the feedback....lol

I got one at BB this morning and gave it to my daughter to take to U of Iowa with her(nice going back to school gift huh) anyway I'm not completely sold on the infinity (started crashing on some games) and may exchange for a Note for myself.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cmunho:
Re: Battery life - After a full charge, I have 1hr 5 min screen time and it's down to 88%.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] *Omnipresent*:
I've had my GT-N8000 (3g+wifi 16gb) since Monday. All of you who are waiting should be very, very, pleased with your purchase. Standby time is amazing. After 12 hours of no use, after a full charge, battery percentage is at 98%
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SM05:
Wow, just 2% drop, that's great!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mtunender:
Well looks like I going to have to get the asus as it was $130 cheaper with my price match. I tried to return the asus for a even exchange for the samsung and they were on to me. Darn. But the asus I have is not working. I just says DMclient has stopped working. I can not update or do anything. The wifi is not really working at all either. This ASUS is really making me mad! Guess i will exchange this one again and see if the next one is any good.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I'd pose the same question in reverse, other than a 1080P display, additional ports, and the dock with battery expansion name one aspect of the TF700 that's better than the Note. I don't count Asus' frequent updates because they are fixing problems not introducing new features.

- Every Asus forum is riddled with front page issues posts that never go away about display issues, QC problems, slow IO because of second-tier NAND, and bad service from the repair facility in TX. You’ll never find a “How to know if you got a good one” thread on a Samsung forum.

- The single stereo-ish speaker on the back of the TF700 can't compare to the two front-mounted speakers on the Note in either sound quality or volume.

- Wireless on Samsung products are rock solid. The TF700's better than the Prime but people are still reporting Wi-Fi issues. Asus uses second-tier AzureWave radios that don't support 5GHz and have problems from interference when people try to stream and use BT concurrently. The Note has a/b/g/n support, uses the 5GHz band, and also has channel bonding which greatly increases throughput on videos and big downloads. The Note also has BT 4.0 and aptX lossless audio support.

- You may not care about multi-view, Pop up play, AllShare Cast (which replaces the need for MHL/HDMI), Buddy Photo, 50GB of integrated Dropbox storage, and the things you can do with S-Pen but a lot of us do. You can buy a Note and not use them but they aren’t even an option on the TF700. And even if they were available via third party apps kiss multitasking good bye with only 1GB of RAM available on the TF700.

- Exynos Quad/Mali blows Teg3 away. I have a Teg3 One X and there's a thread in that forum with over 100 pages of people trying (and failing) to get the same frame rates in games that the SGS3 does. It’s even worse on Asus’ Teg3 products because a lot of apps and games are IO dependent. I've posted the benchmarks and the difference between the TF700 and Note are startling. Especially in the browser which is something heavily used by just about everyone where Teg3 optimized games aren't.

I've said it before but the thing Asus tablets have going for them are value. A good looking 32GB tablet with a 1080P super bright display for a MSRP of $499 is a great deal. That value's achieved by cutting costs by using second-tier suppliers and through other compromises not externally visible. So the Infinity's a great value but I challenge you to name anything that it does better than the Note with the exception of the obvious benefit of the 1080P display. And there's a bunch of discussion about using the Asus SuperNote app and a capacitive stylus as a viable alternative to the Note's S-Pen feature. That's laughable. The Note has an inductive stylus and there's no way a device with a capacitive stylus could ever achieve 1/10 the accuracy.

To each their own and I'm not trying to convince you your TF700 purchase isn't sound but a lot of folks are on the fence and these types of debates help them make informed decisions.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lardo5150:
^This

My 700 was perfect except..

Light Bleed

BT was poop. and I want to switch to BT.

Mine was snappy, LOVED it. But I returned it to give the Note a try. It had better be snappy (snappy as in moving through screens and opening and closing apps).

Gary, were are those benchmarks, I would like to view them again (I am bored tonight).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] TheWerewolf:
I'm one of those poor lost souls who got trapped with a Transformer Prime (couldn't return it because Asus had a 'no returns' policy when I bought mine and had to sign a waver). I just ordered a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and hoping this will work out better...

How's the GPS?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
V1 of the Note's s/w needs some work. It's more than snappy but because it's so fast you tend to notice when something lags or isn't fluid. Especially in multi-view. It's definitely not the h/w because you can play a 1080P MKV video in Pop up play and resize and move it all day long without a hint of lag. Same thing with playing HD Flash videos in the browser. So hopefully V1.1 will be along soon to tighten up the s/w performance to match the h/w. I didn't follow the TF700's launch but I'm guessing its "V1" was probably no picnic either. The launch ROM on my One X was a train wreck.

Here's the benchmarks.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lardo5150:
Thanks for that.

Ya, the launch of the 700 was poopy.

I almost bought it but everyone was complaining about how laggy the interface was.

I only got it after Asus put out the .26 patch and everyone cheered how great it was now.

They were right, I checked it out once I bought it before letting it update and it was laggy moving through screens. Reminded me of my buddies galaxy tab 2. Just "fluttered" moving through screens.

the .26 made if fast. But as you stated about the hardware, made me think of a post I saw in one of these threads either here or in that 700 forum. With this bad hardware (ie internal storage that is slow), has Asus already squeezed as much performance out of it already?

Made me think of that youtube video last night of the guy during the benchmarks on the Note, and they were higher than my 700 by 1000-1500, and this is with touchwiz and stock. I am no expert by any means, but it seems there is more room for performance growth. maybe I am wrong though.

That light bleed and BT today made my decision though. I'll be honest though, leaving that screen might be hard :)

I should be pretty happy I am thinking. All I do is listen to music, YouTube (big howard stern fan, listen to clips there), surfing, and the occasional movie.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I hadn't tested it yet but it was great on my OG G-Tab. I just downloaded GPS Test and got to 26' accuracy in 30 seconds indoors in my basement. The satellites highlighted in white are Glonass.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lardo5150:
and that is not assisted right?

in your basement? dang
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I have a decent set of Shure headphones and the audio output is pretty impressive. I'm guessing it has the same Wolfson DAC that's in the SGS3. If that's the case we'll be able to use Supercurios VooDoo enhancments on it which will blow you away. The Note will get a lot of European dev support since they'll sell as many (or more) there than in the States.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lardo5150:
Can't wait!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
My bad. Wi-Fi was off but 3G was still on. This took 45 seconds after a cold boot with flight mode on. ;)