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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] gmfeny:
Development is always needed... its not quiet over here bc jellybean isn't out yet its BC there aren't many devs. All we really got are the guys working on cm10.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] KoRoZIV:
Just got my note after 3 tf700. The last one was ok, just some annoying light bleeding . I have one spot on this note, but is not so bad. I miss the screen from the asus, is very hard after a week on FHD to cope whit this one. At least I have quality hardware and a smooth experience so far ( only 3 hours on it )
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jsutton241:
Have yet used the Asus, but the note is a great tab. I like the multiple screen app feature the only problem is it lags a little with it being new technology from Samsung. A little buggy, the technology seems to be much better in the galaxy note 2. They seem to have worked the kinks out. I've played with the Asus a little in stores, I really like the keyboard dock it has. You can fold it like a laptop so it gives you the best of both worlds. From what I can see these are the best to tabs on the android market. Some would say the nexus 7, it's not, it may be the best for the money but not the best all around tablet .
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] hoss_n2:
The problem with the infinity is the FHD screen ,current processors aren't powerful enough to handle such a resolution smoothly which makes the infinity lags like a 2 years old tab , same problem for ipad 3/new the put a very powerful gpu , increased thickness and weight but all they got is a performance same as if not lower than the ipad 2
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jjdevega:
Its not the fhd screen that causes the Infinity to lag its an io issue hw. It runs just fine as long as you dont start multitasking to the point you run out of ram. Im trying the Note 10.1 more extensively. Returned my Infinity to test it out. I had no issues with the Infinity I was actually crying returning it to test out the Note. Initial thiughts is that it is smooth and speedy. Enjoying the spen as well. The screen im still trying to get used to. Also bummed about Hulu Plus not worling. Ill have to root this to get hulu on my browser.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] imaturehacker:
My TF101 with RaymanFX does not have issues. Try flashing custom ROM
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I'm shocked. ;) We're all expecting/hoping that our JB update includes some of the features in the Note II. One of them is the ability to multitask more than the current preset apps. There's some funkiness in S-Note and Polaris that hopefully gets cleaned up too. One of the reasons Samsung's stock browser is so fast is that they h/w accelerate it. I'd imagine on JB it'll fly. Hope you decide to keep it.

Hulu's wierd. When the Note came out it displayed the standard "you're device isn't supported" message. Then with the last update it started to work - sort of. Some content plays but other times you get to watch the commercials and that's it. Hopefully the next Hulu update fixes it.

And not lose your warranty in the process. ;)

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Since the Note's 720P display vs. the TF700's 1080P display has been a hot topic, I thought this was interesting. It pretty much confirms a lot of what reviewers have said and folks here have confirmed. The biggest improvement of the higher res display is in text and the OS with photos and video not showing much of a difference.

"For most people, though, it won't matter. Photos are inherently fuzzy, so it won’t matter whether they’re viewed on a 1920×1080 or 1280×720 smartphone display; you’ll still see their imperfections. "Even the tiniest image detail in a photograph is always spread over more than one pixel," Dr. Soneira explained in a follow-up e-mail. "The image detail is never perfectly aligned with the pixel structure of the display." Videos are even worse: not only are they fuzzy like photographs, but the pictures are constantly moving. Even if the images were sharp, the human brain couldn’t zero in on content that’s appearing for only a fraction of a second on such a small display. "For ordinary viewing of videos, 1920×1080 is really not going to make a visual difference," adds Dr. Soneira.

Where a 1080p smartphone display could really make an impact is with computer-generated content—that is, the user interface, buttons, and text. "Only computer-generated images make full use of the pixel resolution of the display," says Dr. Soneira. "For graphics and text, maybe you want that kind of sharpness." Like desktop computers, smartphone displays can also utilize sub-pixel rendering, which helps improve the visual sharpness of computer-generated graphics."

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/10/1080p-on-a-smartphone-screencan-it-possibly-matter/​
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Erusman:
Samsung quality control is excellent. First Note 10.1 I bought from BB was perfect. Heck, I have had nothing but Quality Control issues with Asus. I am sure you guys will remember me, but I am the one who started the old "open prime thread" awhile back.

Right now I use my Note more than any of my other tabs. (TF700 mainly for Tegra 3 gaming)

The Note is fast, stable and constantly amazes me at its multitasking power. I stream a lot of large .mkv 1080p movies with my Note and it keeps up with no problems. Better than the TF700. BT audio on the TF700 is still not fixed completely. It lags and gets out of sync. The BT audio on the Note is outstanding. I love the front facing speakers and the s pen. ICS screams on it, and very rarely get a forced app closure.

The screen is great. Even though it is not HD like the TF700, the colors are nice and text is still very crisp.

If someone asked me which tablet I would recommend. It would be the Note. :good:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
Seems like the ol prime gang is showing up with Note 10.1 now. Its a really good stable device right out the box.

Only other tab that sparks my interest now is the Microsoft Surface.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rand33099:
Tell you what I just got the lenovo S2110 and let me tell you this thing is fast. I does keep up to the note even being a dual core. Now I have the note for the pen and GPS and the S2110 for the keyboard . I returned the Infiinity for the S2110
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] banderos101:
Im hoping they bring old androwook along with them, that would be great he made some great roms.

Assuming the lack of exynos documentation isnt an issue
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
Can you do mulittasking on your lennovo by opening 4 apps at the same time???
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] banderos101:
http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/tech-specs/tablet/ideatab/s2110/

I like the port options

Whats the performance like?

One obvious sacrafice for me is the 1gb of ram, its not future proof, but everything else spec wise seems really good, id consider it, if real world experience is like the notes, i may be tempted to ignore the 1gb of ram

Contrary to many techsite reviews i think the notes build, is far superior to tf201 at least, in respects to holding it, real world experience, i wonder which one literatly handles better

And more importantly, for me, does qualcom/lenovo embrace the dev comm

Thanks for the mention :good:

Edit: i dont think i can give up the pen, or the easyness of using the note : i.e. the editable screenshots...........if a tab comes along that does what the note does in features and performance, with the extra ports, AND dev support.......no brainer

The s2110 is the closest so far, spec wise, minus 1gb ram, theres still the real world experience, and build quality, and lenov/qualcoms stance on dev support, to consider before i really consider.........il deffinatly be looking out
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rand33099:
No problem at all. Last night I was downloading all of my apps about 90 while surfing the web listining to my music. I also tried playing Riptide while download was going on worked fine. This always brought my Infinity to a crawl or just plain lockup.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] banderos101:
I think he meant, something like this

Browser on the left, gallery on the right, at the same time, or video, text editor or email so on so on, at least im assuming thats what he meant
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
Cool yes does in have HDMI and USB port if that is the case thats an advantage it has
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rand33099:
True multi task no. I guess I misunderstood.

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Micro HDMI on tablet 2 USB on dock and full SD on dock
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] banderos101:
As far as im concerned, note 10.1 has raised a bar that other tablets will have to equal and hopefully surpass in order for me to gravitate towards them, and more importantly not create artificial barriers, saying that, i seroiusly doubt ill be purchasing another samsung product until they change their stance on how much they open their products, untill then or another company release my perfect tab, ill probably hang onto my note 10.1 for a WHILE, i.e. i wont be giving anymore money to any company, until a product surpases the note and ticks everything else in my list that the note doesnt have

In my list, lenovo, has a tick on the port department, but thats about it, and in at least one department, it goes back a step (1gb ram)

Thanks though for bringing it up
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rand33099:
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Well how do I post a screen shot that is in my gallery on here?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] banderos101:
Use imgur on playstore, you dnt even have to save the picture, take the screenshot, edit what you want if need be, and instead of saving, choose send or share on the options, follow the imgur options that come up, once picture is uploaded, open the imgur app, click on your screenshot, and you should have some copy and paste options on the right of the picture, use that to post on the forum, use preview to see if it worked ......gd
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jjdevega:
Hey guys yeah I'm trying it out more extensively instead of lightly skimming for about 30mins at Best Buy. Couple of things I've noticed. This morning it wouldnt come out of sleep. I had to manually turn off and on to restart my wifi. Also wierded out about how the wifi signal strength is not as I expected compared to the Infinity. I'm getting about -10dB less:/ I love the IR Blaster, its a very welcomed feature for me since my 2 year old daughter likes to hide my controllers haha. I do find myself getting back to my artistic side and enjoying the accuracy of the spen. Though I'm having some trouble rooting it. It would pass through Odin to apply cwm recovery but as soon as I go into recovery, its still stock with red Andy. Should I have not updated? I assumed from reading awhile back that it didn't matter what version I was in to root.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] shaitoni:
So glad

I am a big fan of Asus as a Transformer (the original) user but I am so glad I picked the Note I feel as I surrendered to touch wiz but I can not say that I looked back, it actually made me think about giving a chance to stoke based roms for my sgs3.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I'm guessing there's some sort of app conflict.

This shouldn't be. Here's my Note next to my Teg 3 One X (which has great Wi-Fi) from about 10 minutes ago. I travel a lot and have no issues with the Note auto-connecting to router's its previously been connected to. You might want to do a hard reset and see if both problems still happen when running stock. The Wi-Fi issue could have something to do with DHCP. Try assiging the Note a static IP address on your router. Not all radios and routers/APs get along equally well.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jjdevega:
Thanks. I changed channels and it seems to make a difference. So looks like some games like Modern Combat 3 is not compatible. also, are all android devices affected when streaming movies audio through BT headset? I just tested it and I'm only getting about 2 to 3mbps download speeds when I was streaming Netflix and pixelated. I was getting 7mbps when I had the Infinity and quality wasn't affected.

Do I just have a bad device?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
That's weird. Below is a quick clip showing Netflix playback while I'm outputting audio to my HTC Bluetooth speakers. The Note's Wi-Fi radio uses channel bonding which can double throughput on routers that support it. I wonder if it's an incompatibility between the Note and your router since you were having other Wi-Fi issues. Can you try Netflix on a different router and see if the same thing happens?

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jjdevega:
Thanks. I can go dig up my Netgear router. I'll give that one a shot tonight. I'm using a Belkin Router that's suppose to be able to stream HD movies and games no problem. I'm also suppose to get 30mbps download speed from my provider. I understand when going wireless it's more like 15mbps which is what I'm getting when I don't have BT on and streaming.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I'm using a Netgear WNDR4500 if it helps. You may want to check and see if there's a f/w update available for your Belkin router too.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
I'm using a Netgear WNDR3700 router with the Note. I get my full ISP bandwidth over wireless (30/25 Mbps) up to 30 ft. About 35 ft away from my router (I go outside), it drops to 20-23 Mbps. I used speedtest.net to measure my bandwidth.

I'm using wireless-N with WPA2-PSK [AES] encryption.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Me too...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sombersp:
former infinity owner

I had the Asus tf201 prime for about 8 months and recently got it exchanged for the tf700 infinity. As we all know the tf201 has WiFi issues, I finally rooted it and put a custom Rom that made it better. **the infinity's WiFi was better but still not great. **I found the device as a whole to be laggy. **I wanted to root it knowing that it would make it better but root was not available on JB at the time. *at first I didn't want to try the note 10.1 because of the screen not being full hd, no hdmi, no jelly bean, less built in storage, *and plastic build. **I went to best buy and tested the note. *the plastic build wasn't as bad as I thought, has more ram, ir blaster, speakers in front, and s pen. *I went ahead and exchanged it and so far so good. *it's not laggy at all, WiFi is a lot better, browser so much faster, screen still looks good, sound is so much better, and battery seems better. *Asus has better design but the note just works better *
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jjdevega:
Thanks for reminding me that this tablet can do wireless-N! Switched to N and I'm getting about 25Mbps! Also finally rooted and have Hulu working! Finally things are looking up. I was also worried about the length of charge time because it was taking longer then I expected. I figured out that it was the aftermarket cable that I was using to charge with. I may have to look for a longer cable because the one the tablet comes with is way to short.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Glad it worked out. Don't forget it can also do 5GHz which is great if you're around a lot of other routers using the same channel(s) or have interference from other devices running near you.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
Yes, but...at least with my router, the signal strength drops very quickly as I move away from the router (I can't go outside). I remember reading that 5GHz doesn't travel through walls very well.

Anyway, I only use the 5GHz when I'm inside and I want to stream high bitrate videos. Never any traffic on that band in my neighborhood.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I thought this was a funny post exchange in the TF700 forum today...

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
Well this has been an interesting thread, to say the least. I'm going to be making this decision very soon. My original (uninformed) choice was the TF700 based on the FHD. I'll have to take some time and read similar threads in the Asus thread, but right now I'm leaning heavily towards the Note. But I still have concerns that hopefully a few of the knowledgeable folks here can chime in on.

I'm really starting to think that the FHD isn't that big a deal. I'm old (58) and wear glasses. I'm thinking I wouldn't really be able to discern much difference. Battery life is one of my main reason for wanting a new tablet since my HP Touchpad is awful in that respect. That looks like a plus for the Note. The 2GB of RAM is a major plus in my mind. And I'm a little leery of Asus overall quality since I bought my father a Nexus 7 and had to get it replaced due to the touchscreen intermittently becoming unresponsive.

So yea, it's probably the Note, but here's my questions. I'll number them so that people can just answer what they can.

1) Root. I haven't read the rest of the forum here yet, sorry, I spent all day just reading this thread. But I have to have root. Custom ROM are nice, but I'd be happy with root. So, what's the current status of rooting? Earlier in this thread it was stated that it should be easy, but then later I read of a user not able to get it rooted.

2) Tegra3. I do a lot of gaming on my TP. I know there are lots of games that require the Tegra3 and will refuse to even download from the Play Store without it. But on the Touchpad I've been able to get around that by doctoring the build.prop and not only do those games download, they are actually playable. Will this kludge work on the Note?

3) Wild Card. Not sure anyone can actually answer this, but I'm curious about the rumors of the possible announcement of a 10" Nexus tablet at the Google event scheduled for the 29th. It's rumored that it will be a Samsung manufactured table with a display with an unbelievable 2,560 x 1,600 display that will put the TF700 (and iPad 3) to shame. We know it won't have the SPEN, but I'm OK with that. And it won't have TW since it will be a Nexus tablet. But if it uses the same processor as the Note, this thing could be a killer.

Anyway, thanks again for a very informative thread. I'm really amazed at how civil it remained. Now I'm off to do much more reading.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vertron:
I agree with the above. Wait till the 29th of October to see if the Nexus 10 is announced, what it will be like and when it'll be released.

Apart from the s pen and sd card slot it should be superior to both tablets.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's my prediction. It'll basically be a giant N7 with higher quality h/w components and better build quality. The SoC will either be the Exynos 5250, S4 Pro, or OMAP 5 assuming a launch next year. If it were launching this year there would already be supply chain leaks about the various third party components used in it or test device traces would have shown up in benchmarks. Exynos Quad can't support FHD so it won't be an existing Exynos chip (if it's Exynos). The 5250 just launched in the new Samsung Chromebook so that's a strong possibility. It'll most likely have NFC and 2GB of RAM also. Since Nexus devices are basically equipped with an app-less (other than Google Apps) bare OS here's the things it won't have.

- Multiview

- Pop up play

- S-Pen/S-Note

- AllShare Play and Cast

- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)

- Mini apps

- Enhanced audio and video codec support

- IR port

- Dialer but HSPA data could be offered

- Browser h/w acceleration

The display I'm sure will be Samsung-sourced and gorgeous and whichever next-gen CPU/GPU it has it'll be fast as hell. A lot of folks don't like TouchWiz based on its appearance but it's more than just an overlay. There's lots of stuff Samsung integrates in to it along with a ton of non-standard performance enhancements and additional features. If I leave the Note it won't be for another bare-bones Android tablet with fewer features no matter what the speed and PPI are. It'll more likely be for a Note 10.1 II with a FHD display and 5250 SoC (if it ever comes to exist) or a W8 tablet. Most analysts that follow the mobile industry have declared high-end Android tablets dead at the hands of W8. It that comes to be then Google (rather than the manufacturers) will be the future sponsor of all high-end Android tablets. And Nexus devices may be great for their purity and frequency of updates but naked Android vs. the features and broader app compatibility in W8 are going to make $399+ Android tablets a pretty hard sell.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] junrider:
Ive been browsing at the tF700 forum and people are excited they are hitting the 5000-6000 score on quadrant coming from a score of 2000. People are now telling other Infinity users to ditch JB, unlocked their tablet (bye bye warranty), and installed a custom ROM cleanROM 2.2. Now their Infinity is flying and so smooth. So I decided to see what my quadrant score is on the note fully stock N8013, unrooted, updated to the latest OTA firmware. 5657 is my quadrant score and I didnt even change anything ;).

Here is a screenshot of my scores:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
Maybe the Asus crowd is in it for the challenge? Getting a Note is just too easy! :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Don't forget that those improved Quadrant scores are artificial. By tweaking the SQL settings the Quadrant IO test score goes through the roof and that's factored in to the total score reported. SQL does nothing to improve IO and only affects in-app database reads and writes which are pretty minor in terms of performance and feel. To speed up SQL the tweaks people are using disable write checking which means if the OS or an app force closes the entire app database is corrupted and all user data (past and present) will be lost. Pretty sad way to get decent benchmark numbers. You could apply those same tweaks to the Note and pick up several thousand points in Quadrant. Good thing you don't have to. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
Barry, thanks for the detailed thoughts. Please allow me to go through this a little at a time.

I agree on this. A Google spokesperson said it would be a high end device.

I've seen a number of rumors stating it will have the Exynos 5250. I don't know much about the different chips, but I do know that it's a dual core rather than quad. That has me a little concerned. But it does sound like it's super fast from the little I've read.

There have been supply chain leaks on the screen. And there is a report of EXIF data in a Picasa upload showing up, but that could be faked. But release date is going to be very important to me personally. If it's not available to purchase by the first week in November I probably won't have much choice.

The 2GB of RAM is one of the core features that attracts me to the Note. If the Nexus 10 reverts to 1GB it's a non-starter for me.

This is where it gets interesting. Some of those things seem unimportant to me. But some I suspect are things that you might not miss until you've used them. I think the S-Pen is probably a good example of that. I don't have a real need or want for that feature, but I suspect once I've used it, I probably wouldn't want to be without it.

This, to me, is probably the most compelling thing I've read so far. This is where I've been wavering. It's good to hear someone embracing the extra value in the Note of the standard Google experience.

IMO, that's at least 2 or 3 years down the road. Before W8 bypasses Android they'll need to get the app market robust. I don't see that happening overnight.

Thanks again for the comments. I'm still reading the Root thread and about half way through, it's still got me leery. But I still have about 2 months worth of posts there to finish, so hopefully it gets better.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Don't be. Exynos 5250 is a beast and will blow S4 Pro away and be more efficient while doing it.

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/news-events/press-releases/detail?newsId=4001