yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] quailstorm:
An answer at last: Mali-400 is not weak, it's mediocre, and in MP4 configurations, it's really high end. BUT it's a low quality thing in some way.

Samsung bought NOVA3 for the mali-400, it runs as well as on iPad2. But on SGX540, it looks awful. (while ALL APPLE PRODUCTS use PowerVR GPUs...) NOVA1 on HP palm pré is better than that. So basically, it's not about the capabilities of the GPU's, but a license war. Personally, I think a worse quality image is better than nothing. So that's why I hate using Mali-400 without CF3D.

You know, Nvidia tegra is not better than others, just Nvidia bought the rights of the special 3D effects on Android. And this works, look at Tegra gaming. So all thing is about money. I hope once I will reach hardware level in programming, so I really can decide if a GPU is capable and just has banned functions, or there is something with the driver, or it's a bad concept.

If you ask me, I recommend phones with PowerVR, Adreno, and Geforce Ulp(tegra) GPUs. Mali-400 is not the best choice, but almost all games are playable on high quality, others like vivante lack important capabilities.

Also I'm a big Imagination Technologies fan, in 2006 they had MBX, and prototype of SGX520-530. There wasn't any competitor in the category for years. Also the GPU in Broadcom BCM2763 with 128MB NON shared RAM is a really good concept. Strong phones like Galaxy S failed on RAM because it's shared with GPU...

Look at Nokia 808: 1,3GHz ARM11 WITH VFP11, two GPUs with 128MB RAM on each. (so 256MB VRAM with dual GPU), and 512MB RAM for the system. It does multitasking well without multithread, capable to antialias natively, while on android you need CF3d and root, and capable to render and zoom in images in GPU rendered mode. Galaxy S2 with the stock gallery app is a bad joke. It looks like on a crappy cheap android phone with 128 MB memory. It loads just that part that you are viewing, constantly reloads while you see bad quality sample, and so on.

Also, I'd like to see the work of the GPU much more in the system. Google found out that they won't have a smooth UI without HW accelerated UI, but what about accelerating Floating point operations with the GPU? That's the future.

I think we must stop posting OFF topic here now.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] fotak-x:
high-end with dual core.......... :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Cancar96:
i play sleeping dogs and cs1,6 on my laptop,specs are high and last week i upgraded it up to 6gigs of ram ;) so laptops are for gaming also ;)!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] fotak-x:
cs 1.6.....dude this game is from 2003 so you can have 1000 GB of ram but if your GPU sucks than :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Cancar96:
meh,i dont experience any lagg at gta4,heating was tbe problem but i cleaned it and bough coller,and ONE more thing,cs1.6 is oldschool game.i play it with friend sonetimes,j dont do cod anymore since they reaced their max on cod4.batllefield3 on the other side is great.:D
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] fotak-x:
i play cs 1.6 to :laugh: want to join me sometime ??
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] ElmirBuljubasic:
STOP WITH SPAMMING! THERE IS an OFFTOPIC for this!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] fotak-x:
wtf is off-ropic ?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Cancar96:
hahahaha stop messing with a raging man,from now on we shall discuss on off topic thread and pm because emir is doing some developing stuff and our chatting in this thread is interrupting his work.right?

sorry for inconvenience.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] fotak-x:
ok,ok soooo we have create off-ropic thread or??? :confused:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] ElmirBuljubasic:
You guys are not funny! My keyboard is small, i dont watch what im typing! You nazi-gramars!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Cancar96:
sorry,grammars,i am born this way..dont be mad :3
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] fotak-x:
spammers go in off-ropic NOW :mad: :laugh: :cyclops:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] TAJ_Rocks:
All will join but dont post off topic on this thread we are waiting for nAa coming update and u guyz are posting long and long post of offtopic

Dont angry on me just a suggestion create another thread:D sorry
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] =-=:
I can't wait Android 4.1.2!!!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] 2010matej:
You're not only one ;)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] CruzEmpire:
+1

i keep refreshing this page every 1 hour for a few day since nAa state that new version will release ..

and i have to log in ONLY to post that i really can't wait for the update..

let me guess

CM 10.1 :)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Ainster:
so many ppls waiting for 4.1.2 did its much better than nAa 4.0 ?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Cancar96:
actually new release will be called minicm10 4.0.2 shakira,and update is always meaning something better is coming up;) bug fixes,performance updates..etc..
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Mockingbird:
I smell the update will come on the Black Friday....
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Cancar96:
i think that too!

are we racists now? :(
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Ainster:
Hmm i know thet im talking about jb vs ics rom's :)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Heronger:
Hmm.

What could that mean?

Does anybody know what that means? :p
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] matmutant:
that you bought a new phone? (hmpfff :p ) [we can see the GN lense :p ]
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Ainster:
could it be you are showing us new amonra installer or maybe :eek: you know what i mean :D
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Heronger:
:p You already know for weeks that I have a GN! :D
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] fifo171:
He's teasing us before the update (just like nAa did on April 1st).

*flies away*
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] matmutant:
yes, but i wanted to answer something :p

and as i do from time to time ;)

and for those who didn't see :

but there are more for next, and ... some "secret" things ;)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] muody:
Hmmm... "only" 187 mb of ram? :confused::)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Ainster:
fifo171 but today is not april 1 :D And yes why only 187mb ram im interesting to ?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Lajbymester:
Matmutant wrote this on twitter:

"less ram, but less bugs... #miniCM10 is 2 words : performance & stability"
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] matmutant:
only?

yes, only

but all is a story of compromises,

all is balanced

less ram, more pmem, less bugs, more stability

no need to know how, no need to know why, just take it like that, and enjoy performance and stability :p

for X8 it is "only" 186 for some reasons, but using swap+KSM does the job.

since ICS i never found the use of overclocking whereas i always did before, so those things can change and you won't notice anything ;)

exactly :)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Ainster:
You are talking about speed and stability and post after post i wanna try jb more and more :D But still did 187mb of ram are enough for normal user using ?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Lajbymester:
Of course, 5 MB difference is nothing. And if you use swap, it will be nothing compared to nothing :D
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] matmutant:
i haven't seen that much issues, remember we only had 184 or so at first,

some apps get killed when switching but not more than usual, and as i said, swap and ksm are here to limit the lack of ram issues :)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Cancar96:
what sd and how much mb i recommended?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] madz78:
I'm sorry, but what's KSM?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Heronger:
All is written in mat's RBAP ;)

The best performance you get with a class 10 sdcard.

And 128 MB is a good value.

Post

---------- Post added at 08:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:44 PM ----------

KSM stands for Kernel samepage merging.

It reduces physical memory requirements and improves performance.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] khestrell:
And using swap with a slow sd just make the whole performance worse. At least it did for me. The system freezed often after opening a few app. Nothing like that since i turned off swap. Going to buy a class10 one and try again.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Cancar96:
yes,i have 2class amd i dont use it ;)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Ainster:
I have 8gb class10 30mb/s write read but on all roms when i test sd card only i got 6mb/s write and 16mb/s read speed where is the probliem ? why not 20mb/s write and read at least 20 mb/s :D
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Cancar96:
okay i am buying muself 8gigs tomorrow.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Lajbymester:
I have a UHS-I card, and I should at least get the speed of a class 10 card (because the X8 has SDHC slot), instead i get only 5 MB/s write in antutu and 10 MB/s read... but the overall performance is not bad.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] matmutant:
pay attention not to buy a class 2 or 4, make sure it is class6 or better, 10. a 8GB class2 would be useless

---------- Post added at 09:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:20 PM ----------

it is because of SDcard cache size, we found that a higher size was better for SD perf, but that only 128KB worked for playing music correctly

edit : D_d said a really interesting thing in robyn thread ;)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] JBolho:
I'm just anxious to see JB fully working on this little devil and hope that KSM stops making WiFi reboot the system...
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] =-=:
hahaha ~ We are expect nAa~

:good:

---------- Post added at 11:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:33 AM ----------

matmutant~

New update have "Pick-Up-To-Cal" this function? ;)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] gocegi:
Just a heads up.

OMX codec updated with native HW playback of AVI, DivX, WMA and RealMedia formats! :eek:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33374614&postcount=1

OP says it works in JB too... maybe nAa could check it out :)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] nazz.rule:
Here....:D
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] gocegi:
I know that nAa wrote tha HW works.

But, the thing is that HW playback of AVI, DivX, WMA and RealMedia never had support for our devices. It was, and still is software playback.

So this is pretty big and good news, mate :)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] =-=:
remember buy the SD card made in TAIWAN :)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] JBolho:
This would be good news, since for example, i never could playback wma files on my system using walkman player or MIUI player.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] ponanovn:
175 MB with Sony Ericsson's 2.1 kernel

vs

186 MB with nAa-jb-03
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] =-=:
Sounds exciting :cowboy:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Lajbymester:
You see the title? Yaaaaaaaaaaay
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] przemek4113:
yay waiting for new version
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] HashyCode:
Waiting? see the title ;)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] nobodyAtall:
Hello community!

I'm very happy to say that MiniCM10-4.0.2 is released today containing the latest and greatest:

- 4.1.2 Android code

- CM10 code

There are several enhancements, bug fixes, new features that are into this release. Most importantly, this is the first fully working JB release for the msm7x27 devices. The missing functionality of OMX codecs is finally worked around so that we can enjoy the full potential of this phone (given the Android 2.1 prebuilt libraries that SEMC gave us).

Changelog for this build:

### MiniCM10-4.0.2

* New unique CrystalMiniCM10 theme (default from now on)

* New MiniCMUpdater feature for nightlies/releases for auto-updates

* HW Video encoding / decoding via OMX

* Camcorder 640x480 (full resolution)

* Jellybean libaudio from sources (fixes for many audio related issues)

* Removed SEMC stock keyboard

* Improved camera performance and responsiveness

* Improved all around performance and snappiness

* Latest CM10 release code

* CPU Settings are restored now after reboot

In particular, I'm proud that stuff for which other devices are struggling or have abandoned, are fully working in MiniCM (Wifi, Battery life, FM Radio, tethering, Camera and Camcorder, you name it...). This is big achievement for our team and a huge goal that has been reached!

My thanks goes to each and everyone that has contributed one way or another, over the time, for this project. Anything from patches, ideas, testing, tools, etc has improved significantly this work.

I consider this work complete. Only addition from now on will be providing nightlies via the MiniCMUpdater's channel.

Cheers,

nAa
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] TAJ_Rocks:
Trying now cant wait many many thanks

Sent from my Sony Walkman to yours
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] khestrell:
wonderful! cant thank you enough!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] leonardv128:
Awesome! ill try it right now!!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] guimendes:
New theme is awesome! Thanks D_d! This version is the fastest version ever!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Cancar96:
heeelzzz yea,such an old and low spec device having fully working jb,

many many many thanks,and congrats for the whole team especially naa and D_d,very nice work,this is development!:laugh::cowboy:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] TAJ_Rocks:
I agree gr8 thank for nAa and D_d

nAa rocks Sony shocks:D

Sent from my Sony Walkman to yours
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Sunshiny:
Very fast and smooth, thank you nAa :D
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] mr-tical:
New Google Apps from first post not working for me, tried install and downloads few times.

This one works http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip

Anyone else?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] matmutant:
may i add something?

Select 'backup and restore -> Backup'

go to mount and storage and format /system

Select 'wipe data/factory reset' (MUST DO)

Flash the MiniCM10-xxx.zip. To do this, Select 'install zip from sdcard -> choose zip from sdcard' and select the MiniCM10-xxx.zip

Flash gapps in the same way
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Xmaster8:
So what next challenge? 4.2? :D
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] guimendes:
So I DO need format /system again, even I was in 4.0.1? If true, please nAa, correct 1st post, it wasn't mentioned there.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] matmutant:
Yes, do you have any doubt about what i say ? :silly:[*joke* ;) ]
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] JBolho:
Never in my life i imagined that my now 2 years old, 140€ Xperia X8 could be such a capable and powerful device. Thank you nAa for your superb work and "mat" for your skilled bug tracking.

Now just one question: do i need to change my CPU settings (if i want to change them from stock settings) everytime i reboot the system? Is that what i've read correctly on the updated first post? :confused:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] 2010matej:
Nice,nice,nice! Thank you again nAa.

From FROYOPRO to MiniCM10 :D
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] fotak-x:
OH MY GOD thank you nAa <3 :highfive:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] maxee23:
I've just flashed it and I don't have internet connection from 3g, going to try installing with format /sytem and see again :/

Edit: made a clean install again and I don't have data connection, any help please? :)

Edit2: My apn configuration get disconfigured, it's a problem from movistar arg. so I just need to call them :)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Killjoy2012:
just flashed to this, and apart from being blinded by the file manager, ouch, I love it, it's super smooth (245mhz - 748mhz) had one random reboot, but that was my own fault, and yeah, it's brilliant!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] guimendes:
Thanks bro! But I did it and just doesn't worked. I'm still without Google bar and Google now :crying:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Ainster:
I have got installed this rom for test and i can say its amazing :eek: Im now using it and i don't have any probliems fast and smooth like gb ram usage are low (with swap :D ) Apps loads fast lock screen are super fast but strange thing i got my phone battery are really hot (can't find where to look tempreture :D ) But now im charging battery and using rom and i feel hot. overall amazing work :good:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] 2010matej:
I test rom too! After I install it,it says there's new update avaible 4.0.2,but I have latest installed hahaha! Camera works great!

I have laggy + lockscreen isn't fast responsive,I know I have an old bugs. I just test it,now I'll go back to froyopro.

And yes my battery is hot too!:laugh:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] mr-tical:
What are You trying to say?

I have no problems with install MiniCM10 ROM, like never had with any other ROMs.

After installing MiniCM10 ROM i've tried install GAPPS from 1st post with fail status, tried install again, fail, download again, install fail, so i think it's not my fault.

I've installed in same way another GAPPS from official site without any problems, without doing any wipes etc, so please stop with these "noobs hints", no offense of course.

Anyone can confirm working these GAPPS from 1st post?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] madz78:
Hi guys, thanks for this amazing ROM!

I was waiting for it to get it in my phone, but before doing it, being a complete noob wanna make sure i get it all right at first (right now this is my only phone), so i'd like some help on this:

I have a class4 8Gb SD card, what from what i read, it's not fast enough to configure swap for "memory".. My question is, can use my SD card to improve performance in any way? Maybe moving system apps to card or something else? And if so, how? can you provide me some noobproof instructions?

Thanks in advance.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] monsluid:
Thx nAa for this rom!!!! I had 1 reboot when in USB massive storage, but now all Right !!!

Sorry forma my bad English
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] =-=:
WOW

Android 4.1.2!

Thanks nAa !

:cool:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] purrungo:
Thanks, i will test now :D

cheers!

How to remove that little space between notification's items?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Hefko:
Is this OK?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] guimendes:
With this gapps I have no wifi...
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] dagger:
The original Gapps works fine for me..
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] qzxi:
can't download

i've tried download 5-6 times..

but always stuck when downloading 10-15 minutes..

i don't know why??

maybe the server limit the download time 10-15 minutes/user

perhaps to maintain the business of the server

in other country that a much time for download the rom..

but

fyi,, in my country,, 132MB can last 30 minutes to 1 hour..

so please,,make a mirror!!

or

if this is to rise found for the project,, at least make server timeout last longer for the user of slow connection like me..

thanks for your great work!!

sincere

ur rom gr8 fans

:P

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finally,,i've downloaded it succesfully

after 7-8 tiimes trial

now,, cant wait to flash it

report soon!!
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] l3s:
Same here.. Can't enable wifi.

I tried to re download - reflash the ROM and Kernel, wipe everything...
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] yingkitcham:
It's nice ROM, but unfortunately, there's still many minor bugs like, lag while gaming, bluetooth can't connect to other device, some of appearance setting might having problem, and sometimes lockscreen less responsive :(
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Heronger:
How do you get such a low value, with an overclocked cpu like this?

Here is my score, with 748MHz:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Mockingbird:
At least you can boot it , i get stucked at kernel logo , the purple led appears and reboot , endless reboots....fss
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] dagger:
Did you full wipe??
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Mockingbird:
I need to go to recovery to wipe , i come from minicm9 and i cant acces recovery , the pruple led blinks and reboots phone , endless reboots
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] dawid0093:
you must at first flash naa-ICS kernel and in it wipe all partitions,then flash naa-JB and flash rom
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] dagger:
Flash the kernel again with flashtools..
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Mockingbird:
Thank you , it's working now :)
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] phoenix883:
Congratz

Congratulations nAa :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Mockingbird:
Feedback

Feedback :

Very Smooth , no problems at all (not even with gapps and wifi as many say) , phone and contacts loads faster and the audio is very good.

PS : Flash ICS gapps xD
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Lajbymester:
Guys, I have a big problem, I used link2sd app, and then i reinstalled the ROM and used 'a2sd install' command in terminal too, but /data partition is always around 40 MB free space after I installed my apps I use. I used 'a2sd xdata' too, it would be good, because it mounts the whole /sd-ext partition to /data, but when that's applied, the system sets some things to default, for example it sets CrystalMiniCM10 theme on every reboot... I would really appreciate if someone could help me!

edit: I solved it with Simple2Ext.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] junixquiaoit:
All we need now is to enhance dual touch to maximize the use of the notification bar. :D
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] maxee23:
To the People with wifi problems: read the f.a.q :) there's the solution
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] vuiseng:
hey........why cant download the rom and New Google Apps ??
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Hefko:
I have low cpu float point in antutu.. Any idea how to fix it? Tried full wipe, /system /data /cache and flashed rom again
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Lajbymester:
Same for me, it's around 15...
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] qzxi:
whoa!!

its super smooth

"butter" project look alike

:D

no bugs till now!!

thanks, gr8 nAa

Hail nAa!!

:P
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] gocegi:
Yup I can confirm low CPU float point. It's 23 for me. Using swap 128 mb on a 10class 8gig sd. and ext 512 mbs.

Everything else i great.

Fast, responsive, everything works. My phone is like a dual-core device o.O.

One small thing thou, i have random glitches, when pressing the menu key, or trying to connect first time to wifi, than the password dialogue is cramped in the notificitaon bar. But it goes away it's not a problem at all :)

Thanks a million nAa, you should be elite recognized developer. Seriosly

Edit, how can i check if swap is used. where can i check that?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Lajbymester:
open terminal emulator and type in 'free'. if the number after swap is not 0 then it is in use.
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Eduardo C.:
I did everything right but I don't have Google Now and Terminal Emulator... :(

Any help?
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] gocegi:
Ijust noticed, I don't have them either :(
[XPERIA X8 Original Android Development] Lajbymester:
Titanium loads the app list in 2-3 minutes :S

I don't know about Google Now, but you can download terminal emulator from play store.