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[Desire General] margaretiak:
I was for a long time(1year or so) on MIUI XJ and I thought it was quite good. Few days ago I decided to change ROM and after some browsing I choosed MildWild CM and its much better ^^ Even I like the xperia launcher..

like new brand phone again<3
[Desire General] Tekey1:
How is the battery life on these new Jelly Bean ROMs for the desire? Is there already a Jelly Bean ROM with working camcorder?
[Desire General] zingga:
Sorry for that, but this question is for me stupid.

All JB roms are alpha, so battery life isnt best and about 2nd question i did facepalm.

Camcorder isnt working, you can find this in OP all jb romz.
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
I've been using this rom for a while now. It has glitches which is understandable for a pre-alpha, but what is remarkable is how well it works for me. Enough for it to be my daily driver, faster than anything I've had on this phone. I've been fortunate that the apps I use and depend on actually work. When this rom is released as stable it will be amazing, a welcome breath of oxygen for every tired desire.
[Desire General] paolo-red1:
So wen JB will be stable I will must return to Oxygen?
[Desire General] NiksaVel:
hhahaha

I just wanted to add a different perspective... my desire started overheating and rebooting on it's own at any half intensve task during the last two weeks. looking back couple of months it would do that only in the more intensive rolls like GPS...

It's been running stable Cyanogenmods for the past year.

Being ready to trash it for a new phone still had some time to play around with it... installed marange's MIUI ICS for desire and it started working stable again...
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
Nikez jb - alpha8 WoW! Zippedeedodah! :D
[Desire General] GiSK:
I use the elk759's CM10 rom based on evervolv turba p8, and it's absolutely amazing. Not a single reboot since I installed it (the p7 based version, actually) and my phone is faster than ever. I can live without the camera if that way I can have this speed and stability. It's the best thing that's ever happened to my phone.
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
Yes it's faster than I've ever expected this phone could be. They're working to fix the glitch on the camera but it works fine if you launch it, tap the back button, then back to camera, or use a third party camera app.
[Desire General] erklat:
Gesundheit?
[Desire General] csjjpm:
I didn't want to pay out £30+ a month for a new JB phone so spent a couple of hours repartitioning my SD card and got Elk's JB ROM on it.

I love it. A few things aren't working yet but I never used (most of) them anyway.
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
Nikez JB - P8 is flippin' gr8!:good:
[Desire General] RossPierreDaLaThor:
Right. You mean people didn't brick their phones in pre-ICS time. Srsly? :cool:

I am using ICS almost as long as it is available for Desire. Yes. For daily usage.

Yes. There are things which are not working well. But it's my choice. I just don't use those features, so I'm totally happy with it.

All the ROMs have a list of working / not working features in the first post of the thread. If some people are unhappy, because they can't read - it's their problem.
[Desire General] nlooooo:
Cheers man, and tommorow when you buy a car, it simply doesn't matter if engine, transmission or brakes don't work... Just drive...

:banghead:

Sent from my GT-P3100 using Flashes and Thunders
[Desire General] RossPierreDaLaThor:
LOL. Your comparison is a miss. I need to remind you we are talking about *phone* here. Video recording for a phone is not like an engine for a car. I never used it on stock ROM so I can't see no reason why should I be crying for it now?

Same with USB tethering (which btw. is now working). Why would I bother if I can set wifi AP?

For *my* needs, features which could be compared to engine, transmission or brakes in a car, are: calling, SMS, mobile data, wifi data, GPS. Plus the apps I like and install from Play Store.

And those features work rock solid since months on Sandvold's ICS. With no issues like freezes / reboots / whatever.

Basically, I don't get it - why do you think that if somebody doesn't need video recording on a mobile is a moron?

Kindest regards,

R.
[Desire General] nlooooo:
Nobody mentioned morons...

You can buy Nokia 3110 and have all you need...

Hardware on phone is made to be used, and I don't see which are the advantages of your prescious ICS on our Device. Is it a matter of look, and do you think that AOSP ICS looks better then most of GB roms here? I have it on my Tab and it's rubbish comparing to every Sense rom here on forum. Is it a matter of usability? I think we can't even discuss that matter assuming that there are no fully functioning ICS rom.

I know, it's just a matter of telling that you have the lattest software on your phone...

As Robert De Niro said in one of his movies 'Bulls**t Productions'...

Sent from my GT-P3100 using Flashes and Thunders
[Desire General] RossPierreDaLaThor:
No. Out of the features I mentioned N3110 has only 2: calling and SMS ;)

I see you were trying a nice eristic argument called "ad absurdum" but I'm not gonna waste any time on this.

Oh, there we have. You see, this is a matter of taste and look - that's true. For me Sense is a complete disaster. It's almost as ugly as win xp.

But you like it, I can understand that.

You are wrong. Apart of the fact I like stock ICS more than GB + Sense from aesthetic point of view, it IS also the matter of usability. For those features that *I* need, clean ICS is much more usable for me than Sense.

I'm glad you know about me more than myself. Was nice chatting with you, however I feel if I continue this oppinion exchange, I can end up like this: xkcd.com/386/ (sorry for no pasting the link, but apparently I can't)

And I don't want that ;)

cheers,

R.
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
Nikez releasing JB P9 tomorrow. :p
[Desire General] nlooooo:
As I said, Bulls**t Productions...

Sent from my HTC Desire using Flashes and Thunders
[Desire General] desarenezitic:
I had to lol at that exchange, comparing putting a ROM on your phone, a ROM that has been developed by people in their spare time, and having stuff not work to buying a car that doesn't work is funny :laugh: The key word is probably buying as we are not paying for these ROMS (if you donate that is different) then we have no recourse if something goes wrong or we mess up our device, it's our choice. If we bought a car then we have rights under law as we have purchased something. You could maybe compare it to buying a secondhand car that someone has been fixing up on weekends but even then the law covers you to some degree and you would check that car out to see what does and does not work just as you can with all these ROMS and you know what, you can try these and return them free of charge if you don't like it and get your old one back (it's called a nandroid).

Any who I have been running ICS for several months now, currently on Nikez and find it excellent and definitely extending the life of my Desire.:good:
[Desire General] Ronok:
To put the metaphore aside, I think most of the discussion in this thread is about recommending incomplete ROMs to other users from a personal point of view.

I used ICS for a few months. If I wanted to take a quick picture or record a video it was a pain in the a.. to get a reboot or FC instead. I was able to use it as a phone without camera, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone for that reason.

I went on a holiday to Spain with a car with broken airconditioning in the middle of the summer. It was a pain in the a.. sometimes, but I got there. The car was still working as intended, and even more economically, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

For the car, I didn't have an alternative and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, even though it saves fuel. For the ICS and JB ROMs there are alternatives so I would definitely not recommend it to anyone, even though it has its advantages. You get the point...

On topic: I agree that the wide variety of ROMs (stable or not) gives the phone a new life. If I only had the stock ROM, I would have bought another phone a year ago. So thanks to all devs for saving my money :)
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
Muwhahahaha! :D
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
Google "pre-alpha." Anyone wanting to try Nikez Evervolv JB PRE - ALPHA ROM gets a pretty clear message what they're letting themselves in for. Opticians could do a roaring trade advertising in xda. :cool:
[Desire General] desarenezitic:
Yeah I can totally agree that someone asking for a stable ROM and being pointed to ICS / JB isn't good but I didn't think that's what the 'discussion' was about and my post was certainly not about recommending things to people, the example / analogy used was buying a car and I merely stated that as we don't buy the ROMS it was a poor analogy.
[Desire General] stankyou:
The analogy would probably near or similar to using a beaten car vs using a ICS/JB rom.

ICS reboots = Car stalls

ICS led wonky = Car with busted headlights

ICS hacked HWA = Car with hacked engine

yada yada yada. you prolly get the idea. lol
[Desire General] desarenezitic:
Yeah maybe, I think I said similar in my first post but comparing something you get for free to something you would pay for is totally different IMO. Even then you would still check either out before taking the plunge!
[Desire General] erklat:
Dude, can we be friends? This is exactly what I wanted to write last night but decided not to because I said everything I had on this topic. Almost. :D

Bigest +1 I ever wrote.

This means only whomever wrote it is clearly a moron. No further discussion about it.
[Desire General] nlooooo:
Anyway, Bulls**t Productions...
[Desire General] RossPierreDaLaThor:
That's why I try to never recommend anything to anybody. Because it's hard to guess other people preferences. That's one. Two: there is no STABLE ROM (in the term that somebody defined it here, where stable = all stuff is working flawlesly). Come on, people. That's only a computer hardware + software. Have you seen OS without errors? Stock Desire ROM also had a lot of bugs.

I only took part in this discussion because I found it funny and weird same time, that some people think they have monopol for truth.

You say ICS ROMs suck. I say, they are working perfectly for my use cases. Everybody who is in a search for a ROM, would just read those opinions, then read threads of respecting ROMs to check what kind of problems people have, and then - (s)he would just decide what to do.

At least I can't imagine somebody just blindly relies on single post of some anonymous guy (like me or you) on public forum ;)

As a side note: Desire is not able to produce photos with quality acceptable for me in most cases, no matter on which ROM you'd install - it's just hardware limitation. That's why I don't care.
[Desire General] Ronok:
No I didn't, I even said they have their advantages.

I wasn't talking about the quality. I was talking about getting a picture (or especially a video) at all. 9 out of 10 moments you probably don't need a reliable camera. But it's that 1 time where you have to ask the monkey in the zoo: "hey, do that funny pose again, my phone is rebooting"...

Also I'm not so sure about this:

I'm afraid some of them are immediately skipping to the big fancy download button when they read "this rom r0cks!!"

As I said before: I even agree with the OP to some degree. Custom ROM development is keeping this phone alive. Be it a tweak like Supercharger V6 or a full ROM like ICS. Everyone is free to say what they like (although some rather shouldn't), everyone is free to use whatever others say they like. What are we whining about anyway? :cool:
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
Jelly Bean pre alpha 9 is blazingly fast in use, and Mr Nikez is releasing pre-alpha 10 soon, which promises something special.

I'll have some butter with that bread please!
[Desire General] Nbsss:
I recommend jellybean as daily for all. Full stop.

Sent from my <ERROR!>
[Desire General] jmcclue:
hahaha

sent from my <ERROR!>

yh i bet jellybean has that effect on ur phone :D

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] Ronok:
Best recommendation evar! And a new sig for erklat... ;)
[Desire General] jmcclue:
lol

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] Nbsss:
Lol weird bro, I can't see the rest of my sig anymore, did I cause an actual error O.O

Sent from my
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
Gadzooks man! Mr Nikez you have taken my desire to new heights! Jelly Bean - Pre-Alpha 10 is lightning fast, thankyou!! :D
[Desire General] nlooooo:
And ICS/JB mania continues...
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
Sounds like sour grapes! Tuffcheez old chap! Arf arf!
[Desire General] vedmed:
All ICS/JB ROMs aren't ready for everyday use.

I just tried most stable - Elk759, Spazedog, MIUI.

It is slow and unreliable.

Mostly 3G and camera aren't working right.
[Desire General] pdminty:
I have JB custom rom on Desire by elk759 for everyday use

i don't need a camera and FM
[Desire General] erklat:
I think the search for biggest jb freak is over :rolleyes:
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
The Jelly is jolly fast old bean! loving Alpha 10! Don't be glum chum! Chocks away!
[Desire General] MidnightDevil:
Too bad isn't comparable to ICS let alone GB.

There's still a long road for development.
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
Jelly may be wobbly but it's sweet!
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
[ROM][PRE-ALPHA] Jelly Bean - Pre-Alpha 11.... another PRE - ALPHA?! I have followed the trail and my investigations have lead me to believe that Monsieur Nikez et LA Evervolv team are perfectionists. Case closed!
[Desire General] HotteX:
Could someone with more Desire experience (than me) tell me if either JB A11 or any other rom supports USB mass storage and USB Audio out? This should be there with JB if I am correct but was not implemented in CM10 until recently...right? Is it in A11 ? I have no access to my Desire right now, but maybe someone helpful could check that :) Thanks a lot!
[Desire General] techwiz98:
USB mass storage works great on p11..not sure what you mean by usb audio out.
[Desire General] HotteX:
It does? Marvellous. I have only tried P10 until now and this did not work (for me). I certainly try again. Thanks a lot!

USB Audio out was referring to this:

Source: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html

which is basically support for USB soundcards afaik.
[Desire General] MaartenXDA:
***** please: Elk759

guys, if you want a stable, fast, and updated Jelly Bean ROM, just install Elk759, its awesome
[Desire General] jmcclue:
Hmm from what i can see by reading posts, its full of loadsa little problems. When i tried it, it was slow n glitchy.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] tehcyx:
i've downloaded it right now but i'm not sure if i want this. been stuck on sandvolds rom and it seems he's not contributing to this anymore? the last two updates were a pain in the ass i read in his thread though i didn't update from 0.16 to 0.18.

is elk759's rom better than that?
[Desire General] HotteX:
ELKs Rom (wich is nikes P10 with tweaks at the moment) is certainly not slow. It's big, memorywise (might be an issue of JB on this aging device), but seems bloody fast to me, at least compared to HTC stock ROM. However I would not expect it to outperform a currend quadcore...

Generally you should not forget that those ROMs are early early alphas. I would not recommend them as "daily drivers" right now if you are looking for something that "just works". Please don't complain about that something thats clearly marked as construction site is not polished and well working...
[Desire General] neXus PRIME:
Use your phone as you like. Forget the gb lovers stuck in the dark..... As they have made it their duty to promote gb no matter what others say, let them say it and move along. As their Roms aren't getting developed anymore , the jealousy within is creeping out.... Replying on my post will show their desperation ..... Ask them one thing, if gb isn't getting developed anymore, are they here just to annoy ics/jb devs?

On topic,@op

Ics and jb infact give your phone a new life, only if you accept the bugs/limitations. If YOU are ok with it , don't let ANYONES opinion hinder your path.

Some ppl just love chaos/propaganda.... Although I'm switching between all Roms, and every version has some plus n negatives, but I don't get their point of forceful preaching of religion_gb..... Let every one choose. Just add your opinion and go. Just like I am going now ..

Peace.

Regards
[Desire General] k3lcior:
They dont need developing anymore, because they're done / complete call it what you like.

And it's not promoting GB, it's fighting against kids that are promoting ICS/JB as fully working, bug free ROM's.

Also what's your point, i mean ok i get it - you copied a Nikez ROM and modded it, and you're looking for what by telling us this crap? More attention?

The fact is GB ROM's are fully working as the original ones, superior battery life, with properly working camera, WIFI tethering etc. etc.

ICS / JB ROM's are half working with multiple bugs / non-working stuff. Isn't it?

Oh look, it might end up that you're actually the jelous one, since majority of people are suggesting GB ROM's and you just dont like the fact.

Also FYI, GB ROM's are still being worked on since most of them is based on CM7 and it's still being updated.

Yeah, move along.

:cool:
[Desire General] desarenezitic:
To be fair I haven't seen a GB ROM updated for the Desire for a long time.
[Desire General] k3lcior:
http://get.cm/?device=bravo Updated 2 days ago. (but that's different as they are adding / polishing new features, so it has to be updated)

What kind of updates you would like to see for other GB ROM's, is something not working?

People have stupid way of thinking = not updated for quite some time doesn't mean buggy / not complete, part of the problem is that the current "devs" releasing countless updates which mostly fixes nothing, but updating apps, and fixing their own mistakes (with the exception of Nikez which is actually developing) which makes people blindly expect updates even if everything is working perfectly fine.
[Desire General] erklat:
No, I enjoy trolling fools like yourself pushing ics/JB everywhere. I don't reply to best rom threads, but we all know what is being pushed as daily there. If devs get annoyed by publishing facts, then they are bigger fools than their minions.

I always considered you a loonie. Luckily you cleared all doubts without me taking any effort.
[Desire General] desarenezitic:
OK so CM is updated but no other ROMS based on GB, that I can see, have been updated recently (IE within the last 4-6 weeks).

I am not bothered if GB ROMS are updated or not and I certainly don't wish to see anything updated in them, if a new one comes along I will take a look and see if I want to try it. I am not stupid and I know all the GB ROMS work, quite flawlessly in most cases and do not blindly expect updates BUT if CM is being updated with new features does it not mean that we should be seeing updated or even new GB ROMS pop up with CM as base? Or is it that GB is done to death on the Desire and if you want to try something new then you need to look at ICS or JB (including it's bugs, unstable nature etc etc).
[Desire General] jmcclue:
If a rom needs to be updated every bloody week that just proves its full of bugs and problems, if ur so concerned about moving on, getting with the times, JB/ICS is the future then buy a new phone that supports it ffs.

Sent from my non - JB HTC Desire
[Desire General] desarenezitic:
Not everyone can afford the latest phone or even last years phone that will support the latest OS. If you would like to give me some money I will gladly purchase a latest phone and leave this forum alone, until such time I will do as I please and continue to use latest ICS / JB ROMS at my discretion - this is MY CHOICE, couldn't care what anyone else thinks.

Nikez updates his ROM frequently but is called true developing others have to update every week because they're full of bugs, now which is it?
[Desire General] erklat:
As tufcheez shows us by his drooling every time an update is released, discretion is not on the list of your virtues.
[Desire General] desarenezitic:
Lol, what the heck are you on about? One definition of discretion says The freedom to decide what should be done in a particular situation so I choose, freely, what ROM to flash to MY phone at my discretion.

We're on the internet and you know absolutely nothing about me or my character.
[Desire General] erklat:
Source.
[Desire General] desarenezitic:
Well done, that's the other meaning of discretion. I wasn't using it in that way. Shall we see which other words have more than one meaning?
[Desire General] tehcyx:
I'm aware that these ROMs are early early alphas and i used sandvolds ROM for some month now as a "live" environment. Worked well for me. But since i read that the last two updates weren't that good i didn't upgrade to them. So the next thing i see is that Sandvold hasn't made any update since early september so i'm just moving on and try to search a new frequent ics developer. And if ELKs ROM has proven to work the way i need it, i will also use it as an "live" environment. i don't want to switch back to CM7 despite it worked like a real charm.

just for your information.

cheers
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
Don't be chumps chaps! Be happy chappies! A double portion of Jelly for you good sirs! LoL! :laugh:
[Desire General] irkan:
Damn, It has been a long time since i logged in To xda and now i see gb factions, ics factions and jb ones Haha you people are funny.

Op, installing custom rom does feel like having a new phone, its sweet if you decided to overlook the bugs and irks, i myself looking for a new custom ROM To bring my desire to life, but its hard to give away a stable, working, relatively fast rom for an unknown one labeled with pre alpha specially if its your main phone, but then again you can always backup and restore If you have time.

So all in all if you have time go for it.

For people who have been checking in recently whats the most stable clean jb, is it nickiz?
[Desire General] d.terenzzo:
functionality

How is the functionality of this ROM? are you use your mobile every day?

Cheers
[Desire General] desarenezitic:
This ROM is now on P11 but you need to check the thread out yourself to see what's not working right and decide if you can use it for everyday use.
[Desire General] nlooooo:
I simply couldn't resist to say something here.

I'm glad I moved on to newer device, and threads where development matters, where something new is the point not 'funny' people forcing something new, no matter if it's half-working, and where developers are nor bit**y little girs that have to be protected by moderators that have to clean their threads cause they get 'annoyed' and stop developing...

:banghead:
[Desire General] d.terenzzo:
thanks mate, I'll have a look and if so, i'll give it a try...
[Desire General] dvsk69:
Out of curiousity, whats it new device? :p
[Desire General] nlooooo:
Incredible S, white.
[Desire General] tehcyx:
nice, but white?

I'm kind of liking the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.. but it's just too expensive right now. :-/
[Desire General] nlooooo:
It's white, but fancy...

I was out hunting for One S or Sensation XE, but also too expensive, so I ended with IncS, but I'm satisfied.

So far I unlocked bootloader, gained s-off, installed BlackRose, tried a few custom roms, but went back to stock ICS (works like a charm), and now in a process of making my own rom (going well but still have some misstoughts - fuc...g lib partition...).
[Desire General] grant2:
First time installing a new rom and put nikez p11 on my desire. pretty sweet.

Main problem is my mobile data is not working at all (even when "E" "H" or "G3" is shown on the signal meter). Is there something in JB i need to configure, or is it just a bug in the ROM i have to accept?

EDIT: i manually switched between networks a few times and data mysteriously started working. C'est la vie!!
[Desire General] Tuffcheez:
Did you do a clean install, full wipe, cache + dalvik?