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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] onelikeseabass:
If LG wasn't so notoriously known for poor build quality, I would have done the same.

Loving my Relay. Haven't rooted yet as the dev support leaves much to be desired. Not to discount the hard work that's been done, but, sadly, XDA hasn't exactly welcomed this device with open arms.

Stock for now :).
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dillalade:
Somewhat true. However team apexq over at freenode have got to a stage where cm9 is running so fkin smooth. I've been on cm9 now for over a month. Its ridiculously accomplished so far, other then stock camera and a few tiny things under the hood the current cm9 solution for the relay is leaps and bounds above what stock touchwiz provides.

Jump on the cm9 thread (read back through this thread and check out Nards posts regarding cm9.)

Battery on cm9 outperforms my stock touchwiz experience all over. Stability on cm9 is outstanding, given its still work in progress I was realy expecting the freeze up or random reboot but nope, its as stable as a rock.

This is my first sammy and I can say I detest touchwiz with a passion (I wasn't much a fan over sense either, but touchwiz was a little to ott for me, specifically the notifcations drop down etc.)

Anyway that's just my opinion, and mainly I wanted to fill you in on the epic cm9 alpha which possible you've overlooked :)

Merry crimbo folks
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] burritoboy9984:
Anyone notice when making calls the other line doesn't ring? I've been experiencing this off and on, I'll make a call, hear nothing for ~10 seconds, and then someone will answer.

-Erik
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] burritoboy9984:
I found this thread and although it is for a different phone (GS 2), they say it's a bug with android 4.0.4.

-Erik
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] racosta201045:
Happened a couple of times. Rebooted and it cleared. I was on a WiFi connection when it happened
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] iggyx2:
Nope. I grew out of hardware keyboard plus relay looks so cheap.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] onebornoflight:
Lol have fun when 6 months down the line you can't charge or use the memory on your phone. Every piece of LG hardware I've had - and I had lgs back in the dumbphone days - quit charging within 6 months. That is why I won't get the new Nexus... same as I wouldn't get a 1-3 gen 360.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dabotsonline:
Vodafone 360?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] ploopower79:
Think he means Xbox 360? Lol probably wrong though
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] onebornoflight:
Nope... first through third gen 360's(possibly even 4th this is from memory) had inferior solder used under the CPU, GPU and HANA chip which was the MOST frequent RRoD problem - E74. The solder joint would crack. And I hope I am wrong but given the amount of money I have spent and subsequently lost on LG products... I doubt it. What always broke on mine, fyi, was the metal piece surrounding the charger port that grounds it in place. Hope it doesn't happen to you on the N4 but I'm already reading bits and pieces to suggest typical LG craftsmanship.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dabotsonline:
The Xbox 360 was/is made by LG? I thought it was made by Foxconn.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] onebornoflight:
Troll much or just dumb? Seriously... the point is that if someone is known for cheap hardware or constant issues why buy?

Something both the first 360's and LG products suffer from.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] iggyx2:
Maybe you had a bad charger. Anyways the phone is a blast and speed can't be compared to ole G2. We will see in 6 months how N4 holds up.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] burritoboy9984:
Anyone have an issue with blue tint over the screen? I rooted my phone using the tutorial earlier in the thread, and I have a blue tint on the bottom right quarter of the screen when the phone starts up, and periodically on the home screen (I have a carbon fiber background and it gets a blue tint all over). I have taken screenshots when it is experiencing the issue, and looked at the screenshot later and it is black. So something must have gotten messed up. Any ideas?

-Erik
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] demkantor:
I don't see how the act of rooting your phone could cause this kind of issue. Sounds like harware to me
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] subzerobob:
i had the same problem, but when i flashed and updated to LJ1 (stock) rom from t-mobile website: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4712

it went away...

I think that we need a "reset" button of some sort that will fix this...

BTW - which rooting method did you use? this one: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33323044&postcount=456

or this one: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=31861735&postcount=171
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] burritoboy9984:
It didn't have this problem before I rooted, the bootup screen was never flaky on me.

I used the newer of the 2 (flashed SuperSU via CWM). Do you lose root when flashing the LJ1? Or did you just re-root? Regardless, then blue was gone?

-Erik
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] subzerobob:
I am not yet rooted... I was planning on rooting via the second method as well, but I don't know if you can flash LJ1 afterwards via kies, because it specifically tells you that you should not be rooted or else it won't work! Anyway, just go and try to flash LJ1 from t-mo's link: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4712 and let me know if it works for you being that you are rooted
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] burbs:
When I first bought my phone, I noticed the area on the startup screen would change on the bottom right-hand corner. But after applying the LJ1 update, the phenomenon went away. Samsung should have posted that in the patch notes. A lot of websites reported that this was a skippable upgrade for most people.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] burritoboy9984:
Ahh, thanks burbs, I never noticed it before I rooted.

-Erik
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] pudgybunnyBry:
I noticed it as well, but never really thought too much of it. I doesn't affect my screen while the phone is on, so its not of any concern.

You. Will. Obey. XDA Premium - Samsung SGH-T699
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] burritoboy9984:
Anyone who did the kies update know if I need to backup data? Did you lose root?

Thanks!

-Erik
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] debork:
I rooted first, then updated to the latest firmware via Kies. Had to reroot afterwards by flashing from recovery.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] subzerobob:
Which rooting method did u use before u updated via kies?

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My experience is the same except that now it seems like the "phenomenon" is back... because I am on LJ1 and I just rebooted and the blue area in the bottom is back... fyi - I am not yet rooted
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] debork:
I flashed the recovery (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33323044&postcount=456) via odin.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] burritoboy9984:
Did you lose all your data when you updated?

Thanks!

-Erik
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] debork:
No, the update went over smoothly just like any OTA.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] t_galownia:
I installed this using CWM recovery and the poor little android would not stop falling from the sky. . . at alll . . and that's on big sky :) Any ideas as to the reason. on LJ firmware and cm 9 rom.

Thank you I used Odin 3.4 (as 3.7 didn't appear to work for some reason0 to flash the stock then rooted and installed cm 9 per instructions.

appreciate the assistance.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Codename_Falcon:
Hey all, I spent a great amount of time reading through this thread and found the various root methods mentioned.

However it is unclear to me which root method I should use that will not trip the flash counter.

Can anyone help me with this?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Authorita:
First off, the flash counter is irrelevant. It does NOT void your warranty, it only signals to those doing the warranty service that they should pay attention to the possibility of user-caused software problems. ONLY IF the failure for which you seek service is caused BY YOU, does it void your warranty.

The correct approach is to use HEIMDALL (not ODIN) to flash CWM recovery. You will need heimdall 1.4RC1, which is the first (and only) version that works with our phones. Since it is RC, you will need to build from source.

Heimdall is an open source cross platform clone of ODIN that does NOT have the "trip custom flash" function. It will therefore not trip the flash counter.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
I've only used hiemdall and I have certainly tripped the flash counter. I might be up to 13 now.

I think it will trip when installing new boot/kernels/partition 7 and recoveries/partition 18, but system.img/partition 14 will probably be OK.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Jax184:
Have we confirmed if a USB jig will reset the flash counter or not on the Relay?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Gab1288:
Dont pick that samsung phone, take the Galaxy S Glide instead, it has better specs.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
Lol that has a tegra 2 chip, i would buy the relay with an s3 chip before anything made by nvidia. I own a g2x which has a tegra 2 and while it may be a great piece of hardware nvidia doesnt support thier chips at all which is why the g2x is still stuck on gb because we have no drivers for ics.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
Galaxy S Glide is a piece of trash. The buttons are lined up WRONG, only 4 rows, NVIDIA BULLPOOP... it doesn't even support AWS.

The keyboard on the Relay looks BEAUTIFUL.

Frequency support is PERFECT: UMTS: Band I (UMTS 2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100/AWS), Band V (850) --> That is EVERYTHING I could ever want (assuming that its correct/complete, but makes sense since phones are going this way now). Note that Band IV for my use is MANDATORY, since my service provider has ONLY a UMTS Band IV network, everything else would be for roaming.

Screen resolution, if its 800x480, wouldn't bother me. Higher would obviously be nicer, but the current printed specs are fine for me.

Camera resolution doesn't matter to me. The quality of the sensor and lens are far more important than the overall resolution. If I want to take amazing pictures, I sure won't be using a phone for it, no matter what the overall resolution is.

Internal storage is listed as 8 GB, which should be ACTUAL capacity, unlike HTC's wonderful "4GB is really 2GB" nonsense. And it shows SDCARD, so no problem dropping in a 64 GB UHS card. Forget about where it says "up to 32 GB" -- nonsense. Even Vision works with 64 GB as demonstrated in other threads, and its 2 years old now.

CPU: The specs do list it as an MSM8260A, which would be absolutely awesome, since its dual krait at 28 nm, which means lower energy consumption and more work per clock compared to the scorpion 45 nm MSM8260. Lets hope that's true.

Now rumor has it that there are going to be MULTIPLE "nexus" phones coming out in the next round, and some patents that have been filed by Google suggest a phone with a keyboard. That has been THE bit missing from all the previous nexus versions for which I have passed them by. I have this suspicion that the Relay (or something *very* similar) will also make itself known in nexus form. If history repeats, the nexus version of a phone typically *follows* the consumer phone. The Tmobile Dream ("G1") came out about a month before the ADP1 (effectively the first nexus, despite not carrying the name), which was out in time for xmas 2008. Now since I live in Canada and won't be going down to the US until the end of December, the wait is of no consequence to me -- I can wait to find out. Either way though, if the current specs printed on samsung.com are accurate, I'm going to end up with one of these. I'm hoping for a "Relay Nexus", but I'll settle for a "Relay 4G". I prefer not to have the tmobile logo if I can avoid it.

IMO, this phone looks to be a winner. At least in terms of what I'm looking for, which to me matters a LOT more than which is a bigger marketing success.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Dukenukemx:
I totally forgot about the fiasco with Nvidia and open source drivers. There was a whole event with Linus Torvalds giving Nvidia the middle finger because of how unwilling they are to open source their drivers. I guess that same issue is occurring on Tegra chips as well.

I was actually seriously considering going with Tegra in the future, but now that you mentioned this I will steer clear of them. I don't wanna be stuck using an old version of Android because Nvidia doesn't want to play nice. All Nvidia products are blacklisted until they decide to open source their drivers.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
To be fair, qualcomm doesn't have open source drivers either, but they, at least, didn't "withdraw" an open source driver that they previously had been maintaining, even if said open source driver was 2d only.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
Qualcomm may not have open source drivers, but CAF has been invaluable as a source of useful patches for us. Without CAF we wouldn't have ICS or JB on the Vision.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
Yeah, it makes a huge difference.

And no, I'm no fan of nvidia. Not by a long shot.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
Turns out the Relay 4G does have an S4 chip in it. This is good news!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
Yup heres the tmonews link

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mobile-confirms-snapdragon-s4-chip-inside-galaxy-s-relay-4g/

Im pretty excited, i just hope its easily rootable and cm supports.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] astriaos:
I've read a bit about the Relay and I'm not entirely impressed. Samsung doesn't have a stellar track record for continued software updates and I think we all are now immanently aware of the dubious mistake of getting a non-nexus phone. As much as I love my G2 and want a hardware keyboard in the future, I'll probably be going for one of the new nexus line. Presuming it isn't a situation of "Tmobile by HTC, Sprint by Motorola, and ATT By Samsung" which would frankly be the worst of all possible situations.

Since I'm likely going prepaid, it's going to be a hard choice. Tmobile won't be rolling out HSPA 1900 band for at least another 3-4 months meaning ATT compatible phones won't be able to access data for that time. I have a family member who is going out of contract at that time and she might want to update to a new contract and switch to a family plan. If that's the case, it will be a hard call between the new hotness windows phone, or bring my own Nexus By X.

Hardware keyboards are a dead/dying breed for the high end and as much as I loathe to give it up, large screens kill some of the compromise.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] tylik:
USB OTG?

Anyone know whether it can act as a USB host?

It looks like people are getting somewhere with android support of usb cameras (if somewhat hacky for the time being) and being able to use a usb microscope with my phone would really useful for fieldwork.

... well, and just pretty cool, too.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
Huh?

Factory updates are pointless and worthless pieces of sh*t.

Not like HTC has done well on that front either.

Nobody has.

Not even google.

N1 was dropped at 2.3 ------ SAME AS HTC VISION!!!!

ADP1 was dropped at 1.6.

The only thing that "nexus" means is that it hasn't been polluted by hardware vendor customizations.

For good firmware, you need to customize. PERIOD.

FYI: I must repeat that I'm expecting to see a "relay nexus", or something very similar. If not, I'll be getting it as it ships from tmobile.

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The answer is certainly "yes".

Which is not to say that it will be enabled in factory software.

Good luck with your microscope though.... You'll need linux drivers for it, in source form, and you'll need software to interact with it.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] tylik:
The drivers really aren't an issue - all of my boxen run linux, unless you count the transformer tablet which is of course android. As far as the host is concerned, it's just another web cam - it looks like it's annoying and hacky to get it working under ICS, but by no means undoable. And hopefully the support will improve. I've written code to handle various kinds of image acquisition from these in the past - really, far more involved than anything I'd want to do with my phone. There I just want the pocket microscope experience ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
With a pic now posted on tmonews showing a screen shot with it running the S4 chip i think im going to get it. The note 2 does seem like it will be a great phone but i feel like typing on a physical keyboard will be better than writing with the s-pen. I just hope that the CM team will support it so it can run stock android.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Frag1le:
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/first-images-of-samsung-galaxy-s-relay-4g-appear-in-the-wild/

Screenshot with definite proof that is has the S4 (MSM8260a) SoC.

Full specs now on the samsung site (from the above article):

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-T699DABTMB-features

To bad it only has 800x480 resolution.

Hope it'll be sold off-contract.

Hopefully it can be rooted/customrommed so it can be used in Europe. (there is still no news of any qwerty phone being released anytime soon on the European market)

My Desire Z is getting old and touch-only typing sucks imo.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
Its says on the tmo site that its multi band and can be used internationally.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
Yep, it's quad band UTMS. It will work here in Canada, providing it's unlocked. The ideal situation is that a Canadian provider releases it too.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
Only if you enjoy paying an extra $300 and then the tax....
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
Extra $300? The off contract price in Canada will be the same as in the US. Price isn't really an issue though, I'm not overly concerned. Even if it's scheduled to release here I'll likely have someone buy it for me off contract in the US & ship it over.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] riahc3:
Why the **** is this going to be avaliable only for the US? Make it worldwide.....
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] burbs:
Not a confirmation, but usbjig.com states "All Samsung Galaxy class S phones" and have a list of a bunch of Galaxies (I never knew there were so many variants!). Also, it shows that the list is not all inclusive. However, I'm not sure if it will reset the flash counter :(
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] t_galownia:
can anyone point me to the proper NV file for the Galaxy Relay?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Authorita:
Not sure what you did, but I wrote recovery via heimdall, flash counter NOT tripped. Not that I would give a rat's ass if it did since it doesn't hurt anything.

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Just an FYI everybody, seems that the GS3 free sim unlock via hidden menus trick works on relay. You need to have stock system image installed to have access to the hidden menus though...

Boot stock system image with non-tmobile sim installed, CANCEL the unlock screen when it appears, go to dialer:

Note that when you hit the "Perso SHA256 OFF", it will appear to "go back" to the "network lock" screen. You still need to press menu --> back at this point or it won't work.

Don't count on tmobile actually sending you the unlock code. I ordered it from them, they said 2 days, its been over 2 weeks. Got tired of waiting for them, so tried this and it works. Now happily using the phone on Wind mobile in Canada.

Also, the $400 "prepaid" deal works in store. Just bring a printout from the website and tell them that their crappy ordering system doesn't work and cust support directed you to store. Comes with a "free" $50 "top up" good for unlimited service for a month, but slowdown after 100 MB data transfer.

Awesome deal, amazing phone. I was considering nexus4 for a little while when it looked like it might be impossible to get the Relay for advertised price ($400). So glad I got this one. Love how it spanks the GS3 in benchmarks :good:

One bit of review; to all those who earlier in this thread are complaining about the keyboard... what kind of drugs are you on??? This is FAR AND BEYOND any keyboard I've ever known on a phone. I've had a Palm Treo 650, an HTC Dream, and an HTC Vision. This one is WAY better than any of those. The ONLY glitch is the lack of a right-ALT button, going to have to try to remap the useless "magnifying glass" button to right-ALT.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Jax184:
Good to know there's an unlock method, and good to hear from another Wind user! When I finally get my Relay from the place it's sitting down in Washington, I'll be needing to unlock it for Wind myself.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
I tried this and can confirm that it is unlocked. I used a Vodaphone NZ sim card, that I just happened to have around.

I did get a confirmation message saying NV intitialization succeeded or something like that at the step where I was waiting a min to reboot.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] mikeybot:
I didn't have any problems getting the unlock code less than a month after I got the phone.

You know tmo is trying to do better in customer surveys, so pretty much anything they screw up with like that can be fixed with *****ing or asking to be escalated.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Authorita:
Not sure why you bothered posting that. Point is that they are entirely unreliable and a completely brain dead bunch of morons with their thumbs up their a$$e$. If they got the code to you, GREAT, WONDERFUL FOR YOU. For everybody else, there is a simple and free way to do it without having to depend on that sorry bunch, and without having to WAIT and HOPE.

They still haven't delivered the code, and I HAVE complained to them. AND, if I had to depend on them for this, I wouldn't have use of my phone right now.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
What advantage does right-alt hold? Is it just convenience? I ask because I currently have mine remapped to Search on my custom version of the kernel and I'm loving it. Turns out there's a hidden menu in Settings that lets you define keyboard shortcuts for physical keyboards with a search button on them.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Authorita:
Pure convenience. Its easier to hold alt on the right side of the keyboard with your right thumb and hit, for example, TAB on the left side with your left thumb, than to push two buttons on the same side of the keyboard.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] cjablonski:
There's a right-alt? I don't see it anywhere. And how do you get to the hidden menu? There's so much I don't understand about your post, but I'm dying to know!!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Authorita:
You mis-read. The discussion is about turning voice/search (a useless button) into right-alt, which we don't have and which would be very nice to have.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Nocturin:
I actually use the voice button... just not when I'm typing :D
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Authorita:
The VK has one too, and it actually makes sense there. If you aren't typing, why is your keyboard open??? The idea would be also to maintain that function for wackos like you, but using some other combination, like alt-V or whatever.

Now the big question is... are you serious?? Or are you trolling me? (because I know we haven't seen eye to eye...)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Nocturin:
I didn't know we had butt-heads previously :P.

I was talking about the virtual keyboard. *muhahahahahahaha* I don't think I've ever used the right-alt, so being able to find a different function for the email and search key would be awesome.

IIRC, someone pasted a keymap in this thread a while back that you might be able to find. :)

Using it while having the keyboard open is asinine, I concur most copiously.

Just joking around :).