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[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
maybe you are right ,,, I just tried Mwakious .. I feel it has some LAG ..

I prefer Predator

I wish we have more votes to know the best :)
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
I agree, turge unlike the other developers he hasn't changed alot and he hasn't gone kernel crazy, but I vote for sense 4 venom rom
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
so why you didnt vote :P

and ... you mean virtous or predator ???
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
I vote for venom , it's not on xda, it's available on infected rom
[HTC EVO 3D] DjDom:
I read somewhere that you had a bets release of a sense 4 Rom?

Mind inboxing it to me? I'm still hunting down a sense 4 with 3D and 4G..

Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
is it for GSM ... and do prefer it more than Predator's Sense4 ?? if yes ... could you give a link please :)
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
No 3d but high speed mobile works as far as I can tell, 3d won't happen, I understand it's a java issue and kernel issue, all you have to do is go to infectedrom.com go to evo cdma development find vioer venom rom click download and download the multi version, for both cdma and gsm, it's nice
[HTC EVO 3D] skycrewz:
for me, I choose TeamGenesisROM3D :good:
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
But you didnt say if you prefer it more that PredatorUnity3D or not !! :confused::confused:

i've never tried sense 4 thats why im asking
[HTC EVO 3D] 00mpollard:
mwakious rom any day.......stable and fast :D

Battery life is awesome!!
[HTC EVO 3D] DjDom:
I'll try it out, but, I'd rather keep the 3D considering it's in the phone's name.

Otherwise, I'd go around calling it the Shooter U.
[HTC EVO 3D] mantasio:
Virtuous Eclipse is the best. :good: Very sad that mdeejay changed phone and discontinued he's tread...
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
Yes, I know what you mean but I bought the phone for it's awesome dual core cpu, ram 3d was not the selling feature for me.

Vitrouos rom is not the best, there's been many overall improvements, sound, tweaks, preformance.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
LoL

I tried it for couples of hours and I felt like I am on HD2 ... there is lag as hell :P
[HTC EVO 3D] skycrewz:
TeamGenesisROM3D all the way right ? :p
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
ok ... I flashed it ... and it didnt work .. after flashing ... the phone keep rebooting .. i waited for 4 reboots but nothing changed :eek:
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
In aroma it ask's if you would like to do a full wipe, yes, full wipe is required.

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It's nicer than predatorunity, more customization, awesome with kernel that can't be refered to on xda.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
Yes ... I did a full wipe but nothing chanded .. does it have anything with framware ??

and btw .. I searched alot about why this man ( the kreneler ) is not on XDA any more but I didnt fine any thing :D :D !!!

EDIT : ... I tried to flash predator Sense 4 and the same ... it keeps rebooting :(
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
Could be firmware, sometimes if you pull the battery out after the second or third bootloop it seems to help, you will not find any info on the kernel on xda, don't bother, could get you banned.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
lol ... no I dont want to find any thing ...

but ,,, for the battery .. it didnt help :(

and I searched for a firmware for sense 4 and didnt find any thing ..

how could you flash it man !!!! :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
No problem I haven't flashed my firmware since ota new firmware, but I did a full wipe
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
I did too :(

I dont know whats the problem ! :confused: :crying:
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
Are you using 4ext recovery?
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
Yes I do

i tried predatorunity once long time ago and it worked ( i think before the v1 )

but now !!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
Try superwipe and reflash, I don't think it's the firmware, I've flashed every rom with the same firmware, or are you sure the download is ok?
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
I tried that too !!!!!!!!!

and yes im sure ... I donloaded the multi one from androidfilehost ,,, and predator unity too do the same .. so its not the file !!

its really strange !!

I asked in predator thread but he didnt relpy yet :(
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
Try flashing predatorunity firmware through fastboot and reflash
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
I didnt find a Sense 4 firmware ... if u neab the Sense 3.6 one ,,, I already tried ... nothing changed !
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
ok man .. thanks alot for ur time ... I really botherd you ,, thanks :)
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
No problem, I have never had issue with bootloops, every rom I flashed worked
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
yes me too . this is the first time I see something like this
[HTC EVO 3D] TheAdamizer:
I really enjoy swagged out stock, its mean rom minus sense. Only bummer is he hasn't updated to 2.89 quite yet but it should be right around the corner. Aroma makes for a super custom install and the last time I had battery life as good as this was on mean rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] pasamelo:
Cool ics 12, working everything even can recording two way because kernel is patche d.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
maybe

but for me ... the MIUI ROM is the best for battery life :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
yea right ... I feel its stable with the stock kernel ... but Im using the version that Predator did some addons on it ... it has much longer battery life than the others

i wish it will be better day a day

by the way ... is the official one good ? ,, cuz predator stopped development now I dont know why ... So I may use the official one to recive updates
[HTC EVO 3D] Averell:
Which MIUI version you are using?
[HTC EVO 3D] handisetyadi:
i wud vote for viper3D rom sense 4.0 if u put it on your vote polling.

its the best and fully tweaked sense 4 rom
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
LoL .. this ROM ... I.ve been trying to install it for a week and I cant .. See this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=30410559#post30410559
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
this one :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1806965
[HTC EVO 3D] MotoFlasher:
I voted for CoolICS. It was all the time my favorite rom and kernel.

Now I have MIUIv4. And I have to say will probably stay with MIUI for now. Battery, speed, everything is just awesome.

As kernel I use Cool's kernel or the *******.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
yea theats what I say

but I feel like stick kernel has batter battery life
[HTC EVO 3D] handisetyadi:
joanjoan_10

i had that bootloop as well, then i found this thread : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1796625

it helped me to get sense 4 roms working on hboot 1.53.0007

try to check your hboot. well ppl said it's actually not hboot problem, but firmware problem

CMIIW
[HTC EVO 3D] niks_bg:
Cool ICS all the way.
[HTC EVO 3D] butt07:
Coolrom all the way
[HTC EVO 3D] EM|NEM:
How about adding cm9 in the list :)

THAT imo is the best
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
ok ... maybe I didnt added it beacuse its not stopped from development and he started with cm 10
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
ok i will try this

thanks :)
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
Could you add venom rom sense 4 pleeezzeee:laugh:
[HTC EVO 3D] lhayati:
For Sense definitely Mwakious!

but I would HIGHLY recommend you try out the Official MIUI v4 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1813072

It's really fast and 3D works great :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
im already using MIUI ... but teamgenesis one ...

and for mwakious ,,, i tried it onece ,,, I felt like im one HD2 .. its so so slow and do lags !!
[HTC EVO 3D] Averell:
How about battery life? And do your use any custom kernel?
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
Viper rom gsm, 1 vote counted:D

sent on my Evil Evo running the so called developers kernel
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
Let them be 2 ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] Bazooka Joe:
I voted for mwakious one, this man works realy hard, and as the result we have a great stability and a lot oа features.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
hmmm

maybe its right and the problem is with me

cuz he got a notable number of votes
[HTC EVO 3D] quy1403:
with Cool ICS, i had some bugs with my camera

I ve used Evoler for 2 months and i pleased about it!
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
yea its a good one (Y)
[HTC EVO 3D] japoco_poz14:
cool ics is a best rom of gsm 3.6 sense:):)
[HTC EVO 3D] glideless:
@japoco

true. Battery life is also quite good.
[HTC EVO 3D] S70RM3R:
Been using mwakious3Drom for a while now and I really like it
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
yea

for me

still with MIUI :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Bazooka Joe:
I/ve been siting on mwakious for a long time, but now decided to try smth else. Thinking about Cool ICS as it is the leader yet.
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
Venom sense 4.1 rules, just an incredible rom, fast, smooth and just plain perfect, running the other kernel thats not available on xda because just about all of them are kanged and are improperly configured, why do you think everyone is having crashes and reboots, I haven't had one crash for 2 weeks, just think about it
[HTC EVO 3D] thowed:
im using mwakious at firsttime but it cras at camera ( v11.x ) and change to colics v12 and battery life geting worse. now im using oficial miui and like it so much...good batery life for daily use. combine with coolz v2.9 kernel and its perfect.
[HTC EVO 3D] BrunoSlivar:
Cooooooolexe!!!!"!

Sent via evo3d-coolexe rom & kernel
[HTC EVO 3D] Austin3161337:
For me i voted for Team genesis 3.6 and Predator sense 4.0 !
[HTC EVO 3D] vishalsuthar10586:
so far i got good results by usin predator n team genesis roms.....i liked mwakious rom but it gav me crap battery life.....it drained 1% in say every 2mins....doesnt matter if standby or screen on....so my vote goes for predator n team genesis
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
ooh yea .. but ... it seems like predator has been banned from here :(
[HTC EVO 3D] User13xda:
Mwakious Rom if you are after good support & continuous updates & enhancements!
[HTC EVO 3D] timbohobbs:
Miui all the way now. Updated weekly and although sense based, its a lot lighter than most. I'm a sucker for the themes and UI but with the right kernel its blazing and battery life is better than good. I'd recommend anyone try it cos were pretty lucky to be on the official miui list.
[HTC EVO 3D] floricelu71:
i've tried mwakious and anryl for several weeks but coolexe gave me best overall performance.

Battery is great and no lag whatsoever.

Thank you coolexe and others developers.
[HTC EVO 3D] speedy_95:
evo 3d

evolver 3d is good for me ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] CanadianChris:
Coolexe ICS Roms are by far the best out there, stable, wicked battery life, and most of all he never stops developing. you can flash his Rom today and before you have a chance to find a bug he has already fixed it and brought you something better.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jwan:
yea I see ... all votes are for coolexe ... ( espicially after predator has gone )

any way ... im on official MIUI ... and I like its battery life so much
[HTC EVO 3D] Papa Smurf151:
Sorry guys gotta be fair across the board
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Atrixx:
Hey guys,

I was wondering whether it's possible to add an image as the background when you theme the default messaging app?

I've been told it's possible, but nobody's told me how..

So if anyone's able to shed some light on it, that would be much appreciated :)

Cheers,
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kevinjgray88:
Yeah im sure it's possible just by changing some image files, but im not out much use in that category. If you want to take the easy way out I think go SMS or one of the third party SMS apps give you that option

Jellin' like a felon
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Atrixx:
Yeah, I thought about it and I've been modding android for a while, but never really looked into theming until now. I know all the standard changing colours and such, but i'm not so familiar with adding in content.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] artvandelay440:
Hey man- i'll be sure to show you how- i forgot earlier and i'm exhausted at the moment. Tomorrow, i'll post some steps. Pretty easy actually.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] artvandelay440:
you'll need to edit some xmls. (This is off the top of my head)

conversation_list_screen.xml

change line 4

android:background="#ffffffff"

to

android:background="@drawable/your_image"

create an image for your background and place it in the drawables-xhdpi folder. Name it whatever you want but make sure it matches the code above where it says 'your_image'

conversation_item_xml

you want this to be transparent, so your image behind it will show.

make sure at line 2, the background is set to this:

android:background="#00000000"

message_list_item_send.xml

Set the linear layout at line 8 to transparent. Make sure the background is set to

#00000000.

Do the same thing for the time stamp at line 14.

message_item_list_recv.xml

Set the linear layout at line 8 to transparent. Make sure the background is set to

#00000000.

Here, the timestamp is at line 11. make it transparent too.

This should take care of all the transparencies. Text colors can be altered here too if you need. Try it out and post some screens!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Atrixx:
Thankyou so much!

I'm just heading off to bed now, but you've been more than helpful. I'll try it out in the morning and post results :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stumpy352:
Can you alternately point it to an image in framework, say for instance, background_holo_dark.png?

.....memoirs of a flash addict.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] artvandelay440:
Yep- that's what 99% of all "dark mms" mods do. Only thing you change is instead of conversation_list_screen line 4 redirecting to your own image, make the background #00000000 as well. Also, make sure in styles.xml, your parent theme is theme.holo :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stumpy352:
Ah, I think I get it. So the mms background will be transparent, and will instead be able to see the parent theme behind. Is that right? Can you also change the parent to theme.holo.light?

.....memoirs of a flash addict.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] artvandelay440:
Yes, and yes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Atrixx:
Hey guys, I'm having a little trouble with my theming, here's the error:

..Mms.apk\AndroidManifest.xml:45: error: No resource identifier found for attribute 'parentActivityName' in package 'android'
Exception in thread "main" brut.androlib.AndrolibException: brut.common.BrutException: could not exec command: [aapt, p, -F, C:\Users\Sean\AppData\Local\Temp\APKTOOL4227949827898671239.tmp, -I, C:\Users\Sean\apktool\framework\1.apk, -S, C:\THEMING\other\..\projects\Mms.apk\res, -M, C:\THEMING\other\..\projects\Mms.apk\AndroidManifest.xml]
at brut.androlib.res.AndrolibResources.aaptPackage(AndrolibResources.java:193)
at brut.androlib.Androlib.buildResourcesFull(Androlib.java:301)
at brut.androlib.Androlib.buildResources(Androlib.java:248)
at brut.androlib.Androlib.build(Androlib.java:171)
at brut.androlib.Androlib.build(Androlib.java:154)
at brut.apktool.Main.cmdBuild(Main.java:174)
at brut.apktool.Main.main(Main.java:59)
Caused by: brut.common.BrutException: could not exec command: [aapt, p, -F, C:\Users\Sean\AppData\Local\Temp\APKTOOL4227949827898671239.tmp, -I, C:\Users\Sean\apktool\framework\1.apk, -S, C:\THEMING\other\..\projects\Mms.apk\res, -M, C:\THEMING\other\..\projects\Mms.apk\AndroidManifest.xml]
at brut.util.OS.exec(OS.java:83)
at brut.androlib.res.AndrolibResources.aaptPackage(AndrolibResources.java:191)
... 6 more
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] artvandelay440:
Did you modify your AndroidManifest.xml? looks like there's an error at line 45 at the parent activity name. be sure yours matches this exactly

".ui.ConversationList"

there are ways around it if you keep getting that error.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Atrixx:
Nope, I only got that error once adding my image in, which is weird since i never touched anything apart from what was needed.

What do you thinks the best way to get around it?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tedman76ers:
What is the best ics rom? Trying to make my decision and would love y'all opinions
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Meelocheck:
Jedi Mind Trick v5.1

/thread
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ImjuzCY:
Nothing is the best. Every rom has their own thing so nothing is the best. But try to stick with some larger community for more support. ;)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] edshawn911:
if you don't need wifi calling you can go with guru cm9.

fast stable and good daily driver. if you need wifi calling then i would use darkside evolution rom.

i was on cm9 and i am testing this jedi version 5 rom which seems to be pretty smooth.

i just hate touch wiz!!! all also seem to be fare when it comes to battery life if you care.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] djtheraven:
Jedi Mind Trick 5.1 with faux 008 kernel is by far the best!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] premiatul:
+1
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] enosets:
JEDI MIND TRICK V5.1

Flawless and snappy
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] w.jeffrey:
As previously stated, it's entirely subjective. I currently use AOKP Milestone 6 07/15, with TDJ's latest kernel for it. It's been extremely stable and battery life has been great!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tedman76ers:
Thanks for the help I think I'm gonna go with the jedi mind trick rom
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jayb222:
+1 with faux 009 kernel

Sent from my SGH-T989
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] hiiimgravy:
thanks going to give some of these a try
[EVO Shift 4G General] Chad The Pathfinder:
Just wondering what folks might think of what this article has to say.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-vs-Samsung-Why-HTC-is-losing-the-fight-big-time_id33127
[EVO Shift 4G General] strapped365:
Well I've really began to hate my HTC device running Sense UI and have just converted to AOSP. But I played with some huge Samsung my cousin has on Verizon and it was a beast. I don't know what it was because I didn't care to know( maybe the newest galaxy ), but it was a powerhouse and was honestly the smoothest phone I have ever used. So I'm leaning towards Sammy for a new device to be honest

Sent from my HTC MyTouch 4G Slide running MikXE
[EVO Shift 4G General] megaghostgamer:
Idk look at their galaxy nexus they used o'leds aka screen burn in, I noticed it in the store when I was looking at the phone

Edit: I also got their touchwiz 5 running on my shift and it works smooth. I almost got all bugs fixed
[EVO Shift 4G General] Quetzalcoatl:
If HTC doesn't put out a nexus phone, my next device will probably be a Samsung.
[EVO Shift 4G General] strapped365:
There's a reason HTC only produced one Nexus phone :rolleyes:

Sent from my HTC MyTouch 4G Slide running MikXE
[EVO Shift 4G General] -somebody-:
i dont know what im going to do in november yet for my upgrade but i hope HTC steps its game up, id hate to go back to samsung
[EVO Shift 4G General] shrekdaklown:
sad to say goodbye to my shift but very happy to say hello to my nexus s 4g i know its not the newest but god it took 3 mins to root i have jellybean with everything working and its super smooth only thing i miss is external sd card but dont really need it samsung has some monster phones if htc can get there stuff together and make something to atleast math the galaxy nexus or s3 id go back but till then i got a sammy and maybe a photon q in a few months i wanna test drive that first
[EVO Shift 4G General] prboy1969:
Guess I'm the Lone Ranger then :) . I've already done the Samsung route :rolleyes: . Swore never to do that again. It was total Hell. So it's HTC for me :p
[EVO Shift 4G General] YoungCorruptionV2.0:
I'm with ya man. HTC is still my number one lover and friend lol

Sent from the newly found "***** I own this casino" player
[EVO Shift 4G General] rhodiggah:
With my contract ending this November, two phones I am currently looking into... The EVO 4G LTE vs S III. Unless other new phones come out by then...
[EVO Shift 4G General] shrekdaklown:
well s3 has larger screen better battery and has been shown to run alot smoother alot of people love the s3 some like the galaxy nexus better but if i was you i would go to a store and get a hands on with the phones for a better idea
[EVO Shift 4G General] Quetzalcoatl:
There's always going to be something out there that's better than what's currently out lol
[EVO Shift 4G General] megaghostgamer:
I'd wait till 4.1 phones start getting released
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] okizen:
Hi,

If I upgraded to Jellybean I9300XXDLG4, would I be able to go back to ICS 4.0.4 or the official Jellybean from Samsung? I'm a little worried as the I9300XXDLG4 doesn't appear to be the official one.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrjasper:
Assuming you did a full back-up, yes, easy. Other wise, still a yes, but you'll have to do it the long way round. Full wipe etc...
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nodstuff:
Flash the newer one, its less buggy.

You'll see it in general.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] okizen:
Thanx for the info.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nodstuff:
Jack Barrett did a nandroid of it to make it easier to flash, that's in general too
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lurtis:
The default settings appear to be broken. Did a search on the app here but it kept fc'ing so I'll ask here...

What are some good settings to keep the auto brightness feature working well?

As of right now it just seems to go from bright to dark to bright to dark within a few seconds even in a blacked out room in the middle of the night. Been this way for some time and its quite annoying.

Thanks in advance!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dikex:
refer to here, i hope it will work.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1702125
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lurtis:
Thanks man this is exactly what I was looking for. Those values aren't perfect but it's a great starting point. I wish the app search worked better.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] egadwiky:
hy guys.... :)

i want to install RocketRom...

what should i do ?

I'm still use stock Rom ( ICS 4.0.4 ) Kernel : speedmod k3-13

and if i want go back from rocketrom to stock rom

what should i do ?

please help me guys

I am very confused :confused:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sahilarora2003:
Follow b2 way from here..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1654838
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] egadwiky:
and if i want go back to stock rom...

what should i do ? :confused:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sahilarora2003:
Just download ICS stock rom, Put your phone in download mode and flash it via PC Odin :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] egadwiky:
If i want go back to stock rom, should i Wipe Caches and Dalvik ?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Jafran:
hello every one;

yesterday i went to a mobile show room to by a handsfree to my xperia s. Then a shop keeper took my XS from my hand and he plugged tha handsfree into my XS audio jack but, unfortunately it did not support to my XS then the shop keeper removed it and again he started to plug in that same handsfree like hard core at high speed 10 to 12 times again and again. Guys will it be a problem for my xperia s audio jack i mean does the pins inside tha audio jack will get any loose conections? Ha guys? I am so scared guys i did not sleep the whole night because of thinking about this

thank you in advance

jafran
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] darksherko:
It won't break wtf man.

Sent from a Galaxy far far away.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] LilBlinx:
There are no pins there and the only thing that might be broken is the headphones :D dont worry
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] PrakashGD:
Use only Sony branded headset.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] benpwarner:
Can anyone tell me how to put my own pic in the notification pull down? I've been trying and can't figure it out. I'm trying to use thisView attachment 1265182 and thisView attachment 1265183 I know there big but I've tried all different sizes. Any help would be nice thank you.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] benpwarner:
any themers out there to help?