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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Dukenukemx:
Either way I'm waiting for my T-Mobile contract to end. Once that happens, I'm going to give T-Mobile a decision to make. Either give me a new phone of my choosing, or I switch carriers. A lot of my friends do this, and they end up with a brand new phone, like Samsung Galaxy S3's, but they're out of contract and desperate to keep you in it.

Carriers tend to give new contracts better deals for phones then those who just got their upgrade. Also, there's a lot of other carriers who offer a lot more for less then the big US carriers.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
Idk man id love to see a G3 as much as anyone else here but I dont see it happening especially with the stupid G4x thats going to be coming to tmobile. It wouldnt make sense for them to release a phone named G4x and then a phone named G3. G4x will be just as garbage as the G2x, it will have awesome hardware and a quad core but will have no software support from LG or NVidia.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] agazza:
Do you guys think it will work in sweden? Then someone needs to send me one. Htc can **** off now. To bad i dont like samsung build quality and feel. To plasticky

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] mruwek:
With Swype beta I don't really need physical QWERTY anymore. I'm just waiting for next nexus phone(s).
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] own4gepur:
mologies ppowhin

Looks like an s3 with a keyboard, beautiful.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
More pics released! Im feeling it. Hopefully it gets CM support and the power button can be mapped for the camera.

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/08/a-full-360-degree-view-of-the-galaxy-s-relay-4g-emerges/
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Frag1le:
So does the rooted system image still have a SIMlock?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
Just superuser. I'm still waiting for sim unlock myself. I poked around efs but didn't find any of the files I'm used to seeing, which is strange. One thing I'm also missing that I'd like to have is visual confirmation if shift or alt are selected.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] revwillie:
I'm following discussion here and another thread for the lg mytouch q.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1752704

(my wife's phone)

It's impressive what those guys have accomplished without a separate xda forum, for a qwerty slider.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
I called around to t-mobile customer service to verify the price. I was told that the monthly charge was $20 for 20 months, so the net price of the phone is $400, which ends up being $100 off the suggested price currently on the website.

If it was truly $300, I would have bought this today. I was even at the store ready to fork over my $$$, but the dude was telling me a different price than what I saw on the internet. Can you believe it??? I'll wait until Oct 17th and see what customer care can do for me.

To be fair to t-mobile, the pricing in the internet is from other third party sites, but add that to a lot fo dropped calls from CSR and it does make for a lousy experience.

I did get hands on with a phone at the store and I noticed that the screen would bind a little if you tried to open the keyboard by pushing off-center. In otherwords, if you tried to push sideways on the top or bottom of the phone, the opening mechanism would feel a litlle jammed. I'm not sure if this is something that will break in once the plastic parts wear together a bit, or it's doomed from the start to be a headache.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] wedg11383:
Thanks

I just wanted to thank everyone here. With the help provided on this thread I already have root and was able to clear out the bloatware and replace a few Samsung styled apps with stock ones from cm9. Phone is already essentially identical to my old G2 build except now its blazing fast. I look forward to future developments.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] jjbz:
Yep, the keyboard only slides open from centralized pressure to the slider mechanism. If you try to slide from the edge with only one thumb, the slider gets stuck, unbalanced, and doesn't spring out.

You have to slide out the Relay's keyboard with both of your thumbs to keep the slide even and centered.

OR, if you have bigger hands, you can use one hand and apply pressure to the center of the phone with your thumb to open the keyboard (which is doable, but slightly awkward and increases the risk of a dropped phone).

The slider is annoying but not a dealbreaker for me. The keyboards on the HTC Vision and Doubleshot are wayyy easier to slide out. However, the Relay's S4 processor and faster data speeds make up for the stupid slider mechanism IMO.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
I'll pretend that I didn't read this so that when I root my phone, I'll still feel like a l337 hax0r.

:)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] wedg11383:
I am not remotely close to hax0r level. I just am good with Google search.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HibikiRush:
So is this phone a decent upgrade for G2 owners? I'm still on the fence after hearing about the subpar call quality and camera. If anything are those better than the G2? I'm fine with it not being the best camera on a phone, but if it's at least marginally better than the G2 I am fine with that.

G2 has been so slow for me that I think the processor would be a worthwhile upgrade at least.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
Phone cameras ALL suck. Call quality is fine.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blackknightavalon:
I'm not due for an "early upgrade" until January. I might get the phone then.

Sent from Spaceball One.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] nevermind1300:
Just got back from TMo store and confirmed $20 for 20 months w/ $100 rebate on $100+tax down. I opted to keep my G2 as I baby it and still works fine running Flinny's CM10 test b105 as opposed to the $400 "deal".
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] planetbeen:
Hello all from a lurker who never posts. I'm the proud owner of a G2 and of course my beloved pre-ordered G1, both rooted running CM.

I was able to play around with a Relay a couple days ago and I'm going to go this evening to get my hands on it again.

I had trouble with the slider. I am so used to my G2 that I just couldn't make the darn thing open without looking like an incompetent moron. I assume I'd get used to it though. (The keyboard, not being a moron. :P )

The phone felt so plasticy to me after using my wonderful metal G2. I like that my phone is heavy. It feels so sturdy. I am not sure how much I would like a lighter plastic phone.

I had some trouble typing on the keyboard because the keys are more widely spaced but I was on my lunch break so I didn't have time to really play with it.

I'm going to give it another try later and see how it feels this time. I'll post later if I have anything new to say. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HibikiRush:
Also if I buy the $399.99 pre-paid model, will I be able to use this on my no contract plan? I'm not sure how this all works. And I have seen mention that that retail price is $349.99 as well, any idea why it's $399.99 on the site? Is it because it includes the $50 free prepaid credit?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Hesster:
Maybe that's where they got the $350 price in the press release. Like I said, TMO should fire whoever writes their copy.

There's no difference between the prepaid and full MSRP version, nor are the IMEIs locked to prepaid accounts. Awhile back Wal-Mart had the prepaid Exhibit II on sale for around $170. A bunch of people bought it, stuck in their postpaid SIM and sold the $50 refill card and activation kit on ebay. I think the $500 MSRP on the Relay 4G postpaid page is just there to make the contract price look better.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] o>c:
I remember that I imported an unlocked G2 from ebay just a week after its release in America. How come unlock takes that long this time?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] planetbeen:
So I can just buy the prepaid one and not bother with renewing my contract? I'm eligible for the discount but I'm afraid to use it because I'm convinced that as soon as I do they are going to come up with a G3 and I'm going to *have*to have it!

I know...I live in a dream world. :)

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How aggravating! Just finally got to the T-Mobile store and this one doesn't have their working model yet ! That ruins my day. I've been looking forward to this all day and now it's too late to make it to another one. Oh well. :(
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] sino8r:
Says the person who has obviously NEVER used a decent one on a mobile;) Talk to some of people in the MT4GS or Samsung forums and they'll beg to differ. Some of those with the 8MP and higher are even comparable to 12MP digital cameras for $200. I'm not referring to thermal, HDR, etc... Just regular consumer grade equipment. The ONLY minus is lack of optical zoom ... which we might see soon enough. Nokia will probably pull one out first. Try one out! You might be surprised...

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I heard about it being $350 for prepaid customers which makes no sense. Has to $400 like everyone else off contract, right? If it were that price... I'd be tempted but I may just hold out for the Note 2 and pick up one of the new Nexuses for full price (if they release a qwerty or something else badass;))

I am disappointed to hear about the slider mechanism... After losing my baby (the G2 of course!), I was rather spoiled but did finally get used to the stiff keyboard on the DS. I'm sure one would get used to it though. No more one-handers though! Heheheh!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
I hear you. I really want a qwerty again but with the note 2 coming out your talking about an s4 with 1gb ram and a 5mp camera vs an exynos quad core with 2gb ram and an 8mp camera. Why cant they put those specs into a qwerty? It sucks that people who want a qwerty always have to settle for the lesser speced device if they want a physical keyboard.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] sino8r:
I know... sucks enough for a stubborn guy like me to try something else. The real question is what will happen Nov. 5th if anything now. Allegedly 5 Nexuses this year and so far 2 released. I expect a 10" tablet and 3 others (maybe 1 phablet). They HAVE to make one of those a QWERTY for goodness sake lol! Strange we haven't heard sh!t since the summer. They better start leaking stuff for self promotion;)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] o>c:
November 5...gotta hold the buying appetite a bit, and even September seems so slow to pass.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Frag1le:
Another SGSR4G vid:

[youtube]OdX00pNs0pc[/youtube]
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] o>c:
The looks and the keyboard look enticing for me now, but the screen colour needs some calibration.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Frag1le:
Yeah i noticed the mostly blueish tint as well, this is common for amoled but not as much as in this last vid. I didn't notice it in the other vids though, so it could also be caused by the lighting and the camera used. Her skincolor also doesn't look normal imo.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RazoE:
Just picked mine up yesterday. I love it. It is taking me some getting used to as I've had nothing but HTC devices and this is my first Samsung. I'd recommend if you want a qwerty phone with dual cores and ICS with a possibility of JB soon.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] o>c:
Saw this somewhere else, I know there are a lot other devs for Samsung devices, but Samsung's attitude towards the dev community is something worth notice.

http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/2012/09/23/having-a-look-at-my-magical-orb/

Having a look at my magical orb…

I can see that i’ll sell my Galaxy S III in the next few weeks and get a Sony Xperia T as replacement.

This means that i’ll not longer support this phone. Xplodwild will continue providing CyanogenMod support as far as i know.

I’ll continue supporting the Galaxy S II (exynos4 version) for now. There’s still a lot to do.

If samsung doesn’t provide new jellybean compatible blobs (mali, hwcomposer) and kernel sources over the next few months then i’ll stop supporting it, too.

I’ll continue support for the Galaxy S II (omap4 version) and the Galaxy Tab II (omap4 version) till my devices are dead or not capable of running a new android version.

And last but not least:

I’ll stay away from all exynos powered phones as long as there is no proper support from samsung in form of documentation and sourcecode (especially userspace) to get aosp properly working on it. (see caf and omapzoom as good example)

In short: i’ll not support new samsung devices in future.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Hesster:
I have not tried it myself, but when Wal-Mart was running the sale on the Exhibit II, it was all over Howard Forums and the deal sites and I didn't see anyone posting they had trouble with the activation.

On another note, has anyone tried the HDMI out on the Relay? I have a Sammy 1080p HDTV, but it's an older DLP set, circa 2006 so no AllShare. The manual for the Relay mentions an MHL dongle accessory but I was curious about the picture quality.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
Noticed an annoying bug when I tried to root initially using the restore method and just now trying to sideload an apk. Both of these bring up full screen notices with dialog boxes at the bottom. In both cases the boxes at the bottom are not clickable, meaning no ability to complete the restore or install the apk. Incredibly annoying.

Edit: I can tab down to them with the arrow keys though. Weird.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] planetbeen:
Well I went back in to play with the phone again today. Unfortunately this time it was attached to the wall with one of those stupid claw type security things that keeps the keyboard from closing properly...

I definitely liked it more this time. The keyboard was a bit more "clicky" than I had remembered and that was definitely a good thing. I think I could definitely get used to it.

One interesting thing I noticed was when I was using the on screen keyboard. I decided to see what version of swype it was. I was definitely "swyping" the words but when I looked for the swype key, which is the one you would long press to bring up the settings menu, I noticed there was no swype key.

My husband has the SGS2 and his keyboard has it. Strange because when I went to input types in settings it just showed "samsung keyboard" and not swype. Is that normal for samsung? It was definitely swype style. Little blue line and everything.

I didn't get too much into looking at the other settings except to notice that the ics that it was running was slightly different than what my husband has on his SGS2. (He upgraded a couple weeks ago) I think his said 4.0.3 and the relay said 4.0.4.

Oh well. Those who already have the phone will know all about that anyway.

I like it. But I still like my G2 and I'm not sure I want to change everything around right now.

Sitting on the fence....
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] anyone747:
Is there anything special needed to get the relay into download mode? I can see it in Odin when it is plugged in and running, but when I try to get it into download mode (taking out the battery, holding vol down and connecting to the computer) all I get is the red light on and the phone vibrating briefly every few seconds, no indication on the screen that it is actually in download mode and Odin will not detect it.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] jjbz:
The Relay goes into recovery mode the same way the GS3 does. Power down your phone but keep battery in. Hold down Power, Home Button, and Vol Down simultaneously until you reach download mode. Then you can use Odin.
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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] anyone747:
Thanks, I'm now running the rooted image with no issues so far.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] nevermind1300:
Pardon my ignorance, what happens Nov 5th?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] o>c:
The pervious thread from the one you quoted mentioned that a number of new Nexus devices may be announced on that day, we can only hope they still consider the market for qwerty devices.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Hesster:
Well, since Google bought Motorola, there's always hope. Moto devices have had some of the best QWERTY keyboards of all the Androids IMHO.

Then again, Google also seems to want to squash every physical button there is. I hate on-screen home and menu buttons. I used to have a tablet running Honeycomb and they were a total PITA. If an app froze hard enough, I ended up having to restart the tablet.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
Most of the motorola keyboards have *incorrect button alignment*, such as having the buttons all lined up in a grid, rather than having the "A" row offset 1/3 from the "Q" row, and the "Z" row offset half from the "A" row. With these typical alignment anomalies, the keyboards are worthless.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Hesster:
Unless you're talking about BlackBerry style phones with the keyboard under the screen, all of the newer Motos have offset rows of letter keys. They have function/symbol buttons on the left and right to take up the extra space. Motorola hasn't released any sliders with keyboards like you're talking about since the Flipside in 2010.

I'm currently using a Droid 3 on TMO, and while there are other things about the phone that annoy me (mainly the low RAM) the keyboard is excellent. If Google made a Nexus with a quad core, 2GB of RAM and a keyboard just like the D3, I'd buy it in a second.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
The hell you talking about?

Also, you might want to check the specs on that D3. Its a dual core 1.0 Cortex A9/powervr_crappy_gpu with 0.5 GB RAM. I'd keep Vision rather than downgrade to that crap. At least Vision has a proper Adreno GPU.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] o>c:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s-relay/4505-6452_7-35440657.html

CNET did a very positive review for the Relay 4G. Considering my current phone has been sent to repair with no fixed date of return, I am ready to pay for it. But heck, I got my unlocked G2 just a week after it was released, but now there's no news on unlocking the Relay.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
Unlocked as in SIM? Or as in Nexus?

The former is a matter of $20, the latter is how it ships -- its a Samsung. Factory unlocked.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] o>c:
Sim unlock. The Relay can be sim unlocked now for $20?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
First on google;

http://gsmunlocklabs.com/samsung-unlock-code/

It has a "Galaxy Relay" in the list.

Look harder and I'm sure you can find it for cheaper.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] o>c:
Thanks for that. Now gotta find the way to import.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Frag1le:
And where's the proof that those unlock codes of these sites actually work on a phone that is this new?

The above site can't even get it's model number correctly. Galaxy Relay? It isn't that hard to get your model numbers correctly,

SGH-T699 isn't in the list.

The few other unlocksites i found that say they can unlock the Galaxy S Relay 4G seem like they are generated for every phone type.

You can use import sites to import it to your country.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
There is nothing magic about unlock codes, it doesn't matter how "new" the phone is. They source the unlock codes from the same place whether the phone is brand new or ancient.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] shinkinrui:
Here's another review that went up a few hours ago:

http://www.intomobile.com/reviews/s...g-review-phones-solid-qwerty-keyboards-still/

These reviewers are starting to piss me off. It's like they're saying to themselves "Well this is a mid-range phone so I better not give it too good of a review." Seriously, this jackass gave software on the phone 5/10. Android 4.0.4 software running on a S4 chip is 5/10? Someone slap this guy. He also said the camera was awful, but didn't actually post any sample pictures that looked awful, and even flat-out said he didn't try it at night. Ugh.

I know it shouldn't bug me so much, but why the hell are these jackass reviewers allowed to get away with such laziness? Again, this is the kind of thing that is killing qwerty phones. Someone actually releases a great qwerty and lazy-ass reviewers don't even give it a fair shake.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] agazza:
Its a midrange phone and gets midrange reviews.

Even the motorola photon Q isnt that state of the art

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Frag1le:
The Photon Q is a One S with a qwerty keyboard and without Sense, it's even more plain Android then any other phone.

The One S isn't mid-range as it's faster then the One X (USA) and that's an highend phone.

The SGSR4G has exactly the same SoC but yes obviously it's midrange cause of the 5 MP camera.......some people really don't get it.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
Its very very simple. This is THE 'top of the line' phone at the moment, and the fruit company is PAYING "reviewers" to badmouth it.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] shinkinrui:
I know it's an unfortunate reality that otherwise high-end devices will be unfairly characterized as "entry-level" or "mid-range" just because they ain't got enuf emm pees on that thar camera and the echi dee ain't echi deeish enough. But that doesn't mean I have to like it.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Hesster:
Dude, I said NEWER Motos. Would you count the OG Droid and Devour as new? Moto's phones have issues, but on the newer phones the keyboards are just about perfect IMHO. I'm aware of the Droid 3's hardware limitations, but notice I only praised the keyboard. At the time I bought it, I was on AT&T and wanted a phone with a 5 row keyboard. Even reviews that bagged on the sub-par hardware praised the keyboard. Same for the D4.

Droid 4:

Photon Q:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] agazza:
When we are talking about technology the one x is on its way out and new stuff are on their way in. I want to see a high end qwerty world phone release.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
Im just looking at the device in this sense. I really want a qwerty and right now using a year old g2x. The g2x and the relay have basically the same display as far as aspect ratio and size. Im running my dual core cpu over clocked at 1.4 with out any issues. My g2x has an 8mp vs the 5mp on the relay. The only spec that is truly better than my current phone is that it has double the ram. Like i said i really want a qwerty again but why should i have to get last years specs? The note 2 will be out in a month with a quad core cpu, 2gb ram, 8mp camera and a 720p display. I just dont understand why they cant take those specs and put them into a qwerty phone. Perfect example is when i bought my g2x the g2 was the best qwerty out and was the same price with once again year old specs. I dont see why samsung cant just take the s3 and put a qwerty on it.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] shinkinrui:
Doesn't the G2X have a Tegra 2 SOC? The performance of the S4 in this phone eats the Tegra 2 for brunch, overclocked or not. The processor is not year-old specs.

You do have a point on the other specs, though, if you're concerned about that kind of thing. Personally, though, I think this phone (mostly) hits the sweet spot of good hardware that's comfortable to use. I wouldn't want a Galaxy S3 with a keyboard; that thing is big enough without adding a keyboard, lol!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
Yeah im not fan of tegra since theres 0 dev support for them but ill say as far as using it on GB it flies and runs 3D games and psx roms with ease. I dont think an s3 with a keyboard would be too big, i held the gs3 at a target the other day and its not too big to add a qwerty to. Now the note would be too big for a qwerty. I would even be happy for a gs3 with a smaller screen and a qwerty. Basically the only thing going for the relay is the s4 chip every other spec is dated compared to the non qwerty phones out. I just want a qwerty with the specs of its non qwerty conterpart even if it means making the screen smaller. The relay was looking like a great phone but the sub par camera and 0 dev support kind of kill it. Im not calling it sub par because its 5mp im calling it sub par because my year old g2x takes better pics.