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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Tonight's entertainment is my discovery that the clipboard is persistent. Meaning you can paste as much as you want to it and it retains it, even after a reboot. It turns it in to a kind of scrap book where you can collect media (text, pictures) to paste in to other applications. So say you're researching something for a paper or project. You can just scavenge files on Dropbox, your Note, and the web collecting things you need along the way. Someone was *****ing in the "should I buy thread" about the weakness of moving data between apps and being limited to interacting with the six multi-view apps. With all the thought Samsung put in to the Note's s/w that didn't make sense to me. I'm starting to try to figure out the deeper stuff so I'm sure I'll find more. In defense of all the reviewers who wrote the Note off as just a tablet with a pen, you need more than a couple of hours to figure this sucker out and I'm guessing with all the devices passing through they didn't have time to learn it.

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I did find out that handwriting recognition can be set to either "stroke" or "complete." The difference being recognition character-by-character or to let the Note figure out the words continuously. My default was stroke. It's surprisingly usable as a keyboard replacement when set to complete.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fella1:
where did you find that Handwriting menu?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Settings》Keyboard and settings 》Samsung keyboard 》(hit settings icon) Handwriting
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] darkwolfelite:
So whats your thoughts lardo? I don't know what to do. I love this Sammy! Its fast and everything works like it should. But... I am really missing the Infinity's screen. I swear, if the Sammy had used a FHD screen this would be a no brainer.

Everything (for me at least) seems better on the Note. Browser,launcher,stock video player, sound quality. Actually, not just because of the speakers alone. While I was watching a video in the stock player I went to options and change sound to "movies". WOW! I mean I have been watching both seasons of Game of Thrones and the sound is a 10\10 for sure. Video 7/10.

So am wondering. Do I keep the Note which I love (except screen resolution and overall look)?

Or get another Infinity which I had (3) of and never got a good one, just in hopes of actually getting a good one?

Keep in mind we are only talking about The look and resolution of the Infinity that I like.

So lardo. Are you happy without the FHD? Really is the only thing I miss.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] diablo2004:
To begin pardon my English.

I wanted to ask if the note 10.1 samsun such games can go very heavy on the micro sd or vice versa and S3 like the result you can not move the games to the micro sd.

regards
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] madsquabbles:
no apps to sd. i don't know if they'll ever bring it back. this is why the some people are willing to pay extra for the 32 GB version.

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i, too, like the look of the tf700 better, but the functions i want are fullfilled better by the note - not including the dock, the dock is still one heck of an add-on.

the only time the fhd resolution seems to have any affect is when you have the text set a small point sizes. i'd say around 5pts or less, which is a size no one really uses unless necessary. i guarantee you that the majority of owners will zoom the text in at point sizes where FHD actually makes no difference at the distances you use the tablets from. just as distance from an object can hide defects it can also destroy detail. i believe that, according to the distance charts, that at roughly at 1.5' a 10" 1080p offers very little advantage over 720p. my normal usage keeps the tablet at 20".

if you watch a lot of movies i really doubt that, unless you pause the movie and strain your eyes to look, you'd find much difference. peoples' eyes generally aren't as good as they think they are and "see" better detail in the 1080's because: 1) they expect to 2) they're looking at the 1080 and 720 in stores at less than 5ft away. granted at the same price and build quality and features i'd pick the 1080 over the 720 any day.

here's a link for a site that shows distance calculations for hd: http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter/

at the bottom you can get the recommended distances at where the benefits of each resolution tend to drop off.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
People need to realize that a $500 tablet simply does not have the processing power to drive a full HD tablet and have lag free pen input. There is a reason the new Surface Pro needs an Intel cpu to drive its pen on an HD tablet (also about twice the price). The RT version can use a pen but no palm cancellation and the performance is choppy at best.

So if you want pen input at this price point you either get fast or you get pretty.

I'll take fast (and the screen is till pretty good).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fella1:
l had the Infinity and miss the screen to. I can tell a definite difference in the notes screen. However as you say everything else is better on the note.

for me the better screen is not worth the other trade offs. If the Infnity gets Jelly Bean and everything improves speed wise then I'll give it another look . Assuming I haven't fallen in love with the pen by then.:D

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Wow! thanks for the tip it is much better this way. I can use it almost as good as a keyboard like this. thanks again!:good:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] darkwolfelite:
Thanks for the feedback guys. And yes, I can notice the difference in resolution, but only when watching videos. I have some blu ray quality videos and they for sure looked better on the Infinity. And for me the pen doesn't mean much. I only got the Note because I was sick of the QC issues that Asus has and I already own a Sammy tv and a Sammy home theater system so I knew I could trust Samsung to have great QC and I was right. First unit I bought was/is flawless.

So anyway, was just missing the video quality. But now that I think about, I think my Infinity had hiccups during playback and the Note does not.

Again thanks for the feedback
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lardo5150:
Wolf, did I ever ask where in STL you are from? Can't remember. i am in St. Charles.

I do miss the screen, and notice it. But what REALLY did it for me was when Gary posted the tear downs of the Note and the Prime. The build quality on the inside of these two was vastly different. The question I kept asking was "if I finally get a good 700 after exchanges, how long will it stay "good"". I had the feeling the Note would last longer in terms of life span.

until Asus can get that QC under control, I will have to look elswhere in the future.

Other than that, my Note serves my purpose 100% and I am absolutely satisfied.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] californiarailroader:
Ditto here! I finally did get a good one with my third device, but I wondered how long the good times would last. Gambling is for the Indian Casino by my place, or Reno, not for $500 devices :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] braxas:
i read now all 26 Pages of this thread and he thread in the Note section and i still can't decide which one to buy xD. I'm studiying economic sciences and would like to use my tab for it. But of course i want to use i for multimedia as well.

sry for my bad english ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Well if you want to take written notes buy this. If you want a tablet that doesn't hang up or craps out on you buy this.

Pretty simple choice.

Lol, hope decision making isn't important to your major ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Ditto what mitchellvii said. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] braxas:
hmm, the Note has 3G the infinity doesnt. I don' know if 3G is realy necessary. I thought the Note is the one one with written Notes xD. Or do you mean written by keyboard ?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
If you have a rooted phone with 4G or LTE why would you spend an extra $300 for 3G? Just create a hotspot with your phone and connect. If you want 3G to make calls from your tablet there are plenty of apps that can do that over WiFi. If you ha've your phone with you why would you want to make calls from a tablet anyway?

I honestly cannot think of a single reason to pay a huge premium for 3G.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] braxas:
I don't have 4G or LTE because here in Germany its crappy and expensive^^. I think i have just to look in some stores , but not every store has a Asus Tablet but maybe a note
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] californiarailroader:
We don't have LTE/4G up here in my area (Mendocino County, Northwestern California) yet either, currently HSPA+ w/EB (Enhanced Backhaul) from AT&T is the fastest, I can get up to 9 Mbps down with that. AT&T, Verizon and U.S. Cellular all plan to roll it out up here eventually, the other two carriers here, T-Mobile and Metro PCS are still 2G. Verizon and U.S. Cellular both have EVDO/3G up here.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Don't confuse multimedia capabilities with a 1080P display. Samsung's always done a fantastic job with their video and audio codecs so pretty much anything you can throw at the Note will play (well). Also there's AllShare Cast which outputs to DLNA devices or to a dongle available from Samsung. And I love Pop up play to watch stuff while I'm doing other things. Here's a pic of the browser and video player side-by-side in multi-view.

As for the display's performance, here's what a reviewer said. Samsung makes their own displays and are quite good at it. The display in the TF700 is made by HannStar, a tier-two (maybe even tier-three) manufacturer.

"The Galaxy Note 10.1's display was both a disappointment and a surprise. The display has a resolution of 1280 by 800 pixels, the same as displays on the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 and the Toshiba Excite 10 LE. That means no high-pixel density clarity or detail for text or graphics, as you'd find on the Acer Iconia Tab A700, the Apple iPad, and the Asus Transformer Pad Infinity TF700. Nevertheless, Samsung has done something with this tablet behind the scenes to boost its display performance. Image sharpness and color are dramatically better than in the 10.1-inch Galaxy Tab 2, and the sharpness and detail of my high-resolution images in the Google Gallery came close to matching what you'd find on a high-pixel-density display. Also, though most Android tablets struggle with skin tones, the Galaxy Note 10.1 produced some of the most realistic skin tones I've seen. Text clarity was better than on the abysmal Galaxy Tab 2, but it couldn't hold a candle to what you'd get on one of the high-pixel-density displays."

As a multimedia device the

only

things the TF700 has over the Note is the higher resolution display and the mini-HDMI port.

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There's an LTE version of the TF700 coming to Vodaphone DE. But it's 900 Euro. :eek: If it had the Qualcomm S4 chip it would probably solve almost all the radio issues the TF700 suffers from. But it still has Teg3 and LTE's provided by an Nvida Icera radio which stands to create more problems than it solves.

http://www.tabletblog.de/2012/08/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700kl-mit-lte-bei-vodafone/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] braxas:
yeah 900 just for the tab without they keydock i'm not stupid to buy that **** xD
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
The stock video player can handle everything I have except videos with DTS audio. It just plays the video without audio. Since DTS was removed from both DicePlayer and MXPlayer, I've been using BSPlayer. The image quality is equal to the stock player plus it can directly access my PC (over the LAN) very easily & quickly. Even seeking to a position in the video works well (over the LAN) and very quickly. Some other players I've tried just hang and get confused when I try to seek.

For some reason, the stock video player (when I touch Nearby Devices) doesn't work with any DLNA servers I've tried except AllShare. The player sees the servers, but it isn't able to get a list of contents. This includes Plex, Serviio & Windows Media Player (as a DLNA server). It seems like you have to use different client server software if you want to talk to anything but AllShare.

I've tried 3 DLNA Servers: AllShare, Plex & Serviio (plus ServiioGo):

AllShare: You can use the standard player with AllShare, you touch Nearby Devices and the server will show up. I didn't like this though because the AllShare server doesn't provide an organized list of videos (like Plex & Serviio do). You just get a list and I have way too many videos. It seemed difficult to find something I want to watch. I uninstalled the Server from my PC and moved on.

PLEX: Generally works well. Good organization between movies & tv shows. Displays all the info about the movie/show/episodes. Remembers what you watch and where you left off. It will transcode incompatible videos so you can play them. DTS works. Can seek to a specific position but it's very slow. There's no free version to try. If you don't like it and you exceed the 15-minute refunds of google play, you can go to the Plex forum and ask for a refund.

Serviio & ServiioGo: I like the way Plex looks better than ServiioGo. It works well though. It uses whatever video player you want to actually play the video. If you want DTS audio, you can't use the stock player, you have to use something BSPlayer. For some reason, when DLNA is involved, you really can't seek at all in the video. Some players crash. BSPlayer doesn't crash, but it won't seek either (it just continues to play from the current position).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] darkwolfelite:
Hey lardo. Yeah I responded to that in some thread.lol ... I'm in South County around 55 and Bayless.

But yeah I agree with you. I like the note alot better. Hell, it even controls my 52in Sammy so very happy. Only thing is I wish they had the 32gb model at my best buy. I might exchange this one and have them order me a 32gb one.

Also I feel the same as you and others. I feel this tablet will last and keep its build quality alot longer.

So now question is, if i exchange this one for a 32gb one, what colors are most people getting? One I have now is the grey but kinda diggin the white. Any thoughts?:laugh:

EDIT: I have till the 19th of september to figure it out. But when I go to best buy it say sold out online. I try to check to see if bestbuy can just order one to the store but hard to tell from the website.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
The server side of Plex (I use it) is still getting the content its distributing from files stored on the device it's loaded on, in my case a Windows Home Server. If I wanted to play a file from my WHS directly, I don't need Plex. Here's a screen shot of my home network in the stock player. There are probably 2K video files on it. All of them play (I don't use DTS) in the stock player. I still use the Plex client though for no other reason than how well it organizes and tags large amounts of content. That and to remotely access my content on the road over Wi-Fi and 3G. Between Plex and PlayOn I have plenty of ways of getting local content to my device. The biggest AllShare benefit to me is "Cast" to be able to throw content from my device to a bigger screen.

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Here's a helpful hint for easily getting your locally stored media downloaded to your tablet via Wi-Fi. Astro has a SMB component that is fast and easy for copying remote files to your device, like for when you'll be traveling.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
Barry,

How do you get PC to show up in the stock player? When I click on Nearby Devices, I only see DLNA Servers.

Thanks,

Vincent
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mmilestone:
Bought a TF700T Infinity Pad last Saturday.

I know. I know. I promised not to. I bought this for the shiggles (****s and giggles)...since I also have a spare dock from my tossed out Prime. ;)

And within one hour after updating firmware, ANRs, crashing apps, still slow Play Store to the point of ANR, Screen glitching. Proves that beauty is only skin deep on this model. Yep, nice aluminum body. Yep, nice screen. Yep, it glitches. Yep, My BT craps out. Yep ANR here and there, and some of the games don't work... ho boy!

And before anyone ever brings up that "defective unit" spiel - no, it is not a defective unit. It is just how it is made. Or IOW, all TF700 units have comparably sub-par internals. And no, JB will not solve TF700 hardware problems as much as JB won't make the GN10.1 screen go magically FHD.

I found reading the TF700 forum dubious as some would say how smooth and fast their device is without making clear that they're running custom ROMs. Like I said before, one shouldn't have to spend a lot of time and effort to tweak and hack their gadget just to get it to work as it should. If somebody tells you their Infinity runs fine, chances are they haven't spent time with the Note 10.1.

I now have both. And as a lot of others have said, they each have their strengths. The TF700 has it's screen. The Note10.1 has it's speed and reliablilty.

If we factor in the TF700's dock at $150.00, the Note10.1 wins price-performance and function as I can add a BT keyboard with no problem for less than $100.00. The dock's battery is practically not a factor since the screen eats up a lot (and I mean a lot) of battery, anyway that it would probably last as long as the GN10.1 on power-saving.

BUT, OH! THIS SCREEN IS WONDERFUL!!! Heck! I just might keep it for the p0rn. :laugh:

I'll stick to the GN10.1, with the faster CPU and more RAM for the complicated stuff... :good:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Funny. Better days are always on the horizon but the damn horizon keeps moving. Maybe Key Lime Pie will fix h/w issues and increase screen resolution. ;)

And voiding their warranty in the process which, with the repetitive issues, is a high-risk gamble.

We, the "enthusiast" community that makes up 5% of purchasers, give the masses too much credit. They probably think display issues are the price you pay for using a tablet, don't know what NAND and IO performance mean, don't even know how to use BT, and generally are pretty happy with what they get. For example, a friend of mine who's not an idiot didn't even think about using his iP4s via BT in his BT-equipped car. To those with a low bar pretty much any device meets their needs. To that end, even being somewhat overpriced and having non-HD displays, Samsung's outsold Asus almost 4:1 through Q2 2012. At the current pace Samsung's already sold as many tablets as Asus will sell for the full year. I don't count the N7 which is really a pass through for them and that they make probably $10-20 per device on. Remember, Asus got the N7 build because both HTC and Acer passed because there wasn’t enough margin in it to make it worth the effort.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mmilestone:
I wish. I wish. I wish. :silly:

And I've learned that - "The Asus Way", with my experience in the Prime.

They didn't have as much of a problem releasing the Unlock. But could not release the NVFlash. The only way to get it working to its full potential is to unlock it and install a custom ROM. But that voids the warranty and leaves them scot free from honoring warranty for any HW issues intrinsic with the build.

Asus had to do something with the stink they made with the TF201, :eek: and Google provided the perfume it needed with the N7. :rolleyes: Google was specific about the HW in that device hence the stellar performance.

:cool:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] prenedo:
Coming from the prime/infinity I can say this. Those thinking that cm10, or any custom ROM for that matter, makes your tab faster, try it on the note. This thing is absolutely beast on aosp JB. I would say that performance is quicker than my s3. Didn't know electronics could run that fast...

There should be no need to have to run a custom rom to enjoy your tablet... I got my prime for Christmas. Having no real need for a tablet I found myself never using that thing. I thought it would be a laptop replacement for me, but couldn't browse the internet without the browser crashing every 15 minutes. Traded up to the infinity, which had a beautiful screen. After the .26 update I thought I finally had a tablet I could enjoy. It cleared up the choppy transitions and screen flickers, but still couldn't browse the internet. Traded up to the note and I'm finally happy. 9 months later I feel like I can actually enjoy my tablet. I've probably put more hours on this thing then the prime and infinity combined in the first week I've had it (exaggerating, but that statement will probably be true in a month). Can't wait for Samsung to release the keyboard 'dock'...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jjdevega:
I feel that i must comment about this. I for one have spent time on The Note 10.1 because of its appeal towards the artist in me. I have to say it is very smooth and fast. I love the spen most specifically for drawing. But your comment about having to mod hack the Infinity in order for it to run smooth and fast is far from the truth. I am rooted, locked, no tweaks for increased performance. Only tweaks I've done is the ability to watch Hulu through the web browser and rooted apps. It runs great for me. Fast and smooth. Everything works as it should. I even created a thread demonstrating how my infinity performs along side the Note10.1[videos] I know that this is the Note10.1 forum and allegiance is strong haha but I will not stand for this atrocity! I'm sure your just upset and venting is good. I completely understand but I do not share your views and that's okay.

Love the Note 10.1 by the way lol I will be purchasing one on my next paycheck.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Vincent9756:
I'm glad you have a good TF700, but it seemed like many other people were having very inconsistent experiences. In order to have an acceptable experience, many people had to return their tabs for replacements. Some people exchanged tabs at least 3 times. It might be fair to say that the TF700 has the potential for excellence, but the build quality makes it a somewhat risky purchase unless you're a very patient person (or very lucky).

The general consensus of Note users is that, out of the box, it just works. It's fast, smooth and responsive the way a $500 tablet should be.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mmilestone:
LOL!!! Well, it's gonna be a crying shame if I post videos of the two side-by-side with the TF700 choking at my level of use. As soon as I got past 30 running widgets with Multipicture Wallpaper it started reminding me of the Prime. :crying: Now, in all fairness, both devices are plain stock but rooted. I'm a little too busy right now to do any of that. No tweaks and changes both set up the same apps and layout.

I was actually able to make the TF 700 screen glitch at will. :laugh: A simple way would be playing GLWG then during each game intro, tap on the ICS Notification bar and enjoy the waves. Didn't happen on the Note10.1. :good:

Browsers (Stock, + and Dolphin) kept giving ANRs. Even Downloading more than 10 apps from the Play Store starts giving it ANRs. That's not my definition of smooth. Well, okay. It was smooth when I first bought it. But as soon as I got to load it the way I work, smooth is not it. Also, nothing wrong with my network but it takes forever to load a webpage compared to the Note. :confused:

I'll probably do that video by next week if I get more breathing time from work. But let me tell you...when I do so, more people will see it and t'ain't gonna be purdy. :cowboy:

But I really do love the screen. And, I've decided to keep it for p0rn and stuff. :)

...since I still have my old Prime's dock...maybe give it to my kid...the device without the p0rn that is... :angel:

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