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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Just for the hell of it, I made a nandroid backup of my CM10.1 system and tried the rooted uvma2 rom that I've been asking about.

I installed it twice, and both times, when I tried to reboot my device, the boot process hung in the following way ...

1. The word SAMSUNG appeared on the screen for a second or two.

2. Then, the little musical interlude with the launching Android robot appeared.

3. Then, the T-Mobile welcome screen showed up for a few seconds.

4. Then, the word SAMSUNG appeared on the screen again. It stayed there forever, and my OS never came up.

The first time I installed the rooted uvma2 rom, I just just flashed it, followed by flashing the relay tethering fix. Upon reboot, I had the symptons mentioned above.

Therefore, I tried again, this time clearing the cache and reformatting /system before starting. Then, I installed the rooted uvma2 rom, the uvma2 goodies (for the radio), and the relay tethering fix. But once again, I got the same hang-up during boot.

What am I doing wrong?

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
If you are coming from CM10, you probably have to wipe data too. It should be backed up through CWM, so you can test the stock rom and then flash back.

Regarding the deleted apps, there are probably a few more that can be deleted as well. I've taken a few off of my phone, but they might still be in the ROM. I prefer the google calendar that is in the market instead of the Samsung TW version.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] SpaceSpeed:
Not sure what exactly you're wiping prior to the flash, but I would make sure the following are wiped:

1. Wipe Data/Factory Reset

2. Wipe Cache Partition

3. Advanced -> Wipe Dalvik Cache

4. Install the ROM from SD Card, reboot

5. Flash the tethering fix and goodies if necessary

You might also want to make sure that your ROM was downloaded correctly - the uvma2_rooted_e0ea4e51.zip file that I have has an MD5 hash of E0EA4E51D25A3B61CB2798E9FB1E8C0A. You might want to check that against yours (though I haven't flashed that particular file yet, so I can't guarantee that mine is correct). Maybe gee one or Nardholio can check that against one of their copies?

If you don't know how to generate a hash, check out MD5Checker.

Hope that helps
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Thank you. I'll try that.

Question: does a nandroid backup automatically back up /data, or do I need to do that in a separate operation?

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] TheDigitalBug:
As far as I know, it does a backup of /system, /data and /cache.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Thank you very much.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
I retried installing gee-one's rooted MA2 rom, and this time, I cleared cache, system, and data ... and it worked.

Good job, gee-one! It works well, thank you.

I just have one question:

How do I get rid of the annoying "welcome" sound that plays every time my phone boots up (during the time that the Android robot gets launched)? I figured this out several months ago on the stock Samsung ROM, but I forgot what file to trash in order to get rid of that sound.

Thanks in advance.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
There are some poweron/poweroff sounds in /system/media. I deleted them and poof... quiet startup.

You should be able to delete them in terminal.

sent while running with scissors
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Yep, that did it. I now have peace and quiet during startup and shutdown.

I deleted PowerOn.ogg, PowerOff.ogg, and PowerOff.wav.

Thank you.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38860356
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Brew78:
I will be watching that thread with great interest!

I'm on the edge of flashing a CM9 on my Relay but may indeed wait for more info on CM10..

(I would have posted this in that thread, but I don't post all that often and am not yet allowed to!)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] s0medude:
For some reason, I cannot for the life of me get CWM on this phone.

- Start Odin

- Get the phone to Odin Mode

- plug it in

- Select the cwm.tar.md5 in the PDA box

- click start.

I reboot the phone, hold Home+Volume UP+Power .. and get the same e3 recovery.. unable to flash the SuperSU zip..

WTF am I doing wrong?

The Custom Binary counter is already up to 4.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
Install Kies. Try a different USB port and cable.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] croogrog:
Try unchecking auto reboot

I saw this is in the info portal thred...

After I got the update last week, I tried flashing CWM. Odin said flashing the CWM worked, but CWM wasn't actually on my device (just stock recovery even though the custom OS flash count thing had incremented). I did it again, but this time with "Auto Reboot" unchecked. When Odin was done, I unplugged my device from usb, and rebooted directly into recovery and CWM was now there and I could re-root the device.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] s0medude:
Installed Kies and used a different port. Seems to have worked.

Waiting on the new CM10 load screen to stop spinning now... Hopefully it's not stuck.

thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Nocturin:
If it is stuck, format /system /data and /cache and re-flash CWM and CM10. Good luck!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] jarrodlombardo:
That was me on the other thread. I could only get to CWM the one time though. I rooted, and am still rooted, but I get the stock recovery every time I boot holding the buttons. I don't know how to fix it. I asked here a while ago (around p95 or somth) and no one replied.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
If you are rooted, you might be able to flash a new cwm through the terminal or adb. The easiest way would be using heimdall or odin.

sent while running with scissors
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Nocturin:
If you flashed MA2 after CWM you'll need to flash CWM through odin again. MA2 restores the stock recovery.

edit: don't forget to uncheck auto-reboot.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Xenobio:
I was having the same problem until I deleted ".md5" at the end of the filename. This was using Odin 3.04 which I thought was the latest. After that it worked fine...

Am now running Nardholio's version of unofficial CM9 =)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gtmaster303:
It's hard to stay on one topic in an all inclusive thread, but the LG Optimus L5 just recently got a forum, even though the device came out in February of 2012. They also just got official CM support.

That might give an insight as to how long it will take for us to get a forum of our own. I think official CM support is a major proponent of how we get a slice of xda. So if that happens, it will be a major step in the right direction

(Yes I know this has been said before, but here's some proof and substance to go along with it)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] croogrog:
Does anyone know if this (circled in blue) is an antenna plug?

If it is I have an idea to make a "big" antenna.

I grabbed this pic from jax's hardware guide on page 104.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
Yes that's an antenna port. I do not recommend using it. Antenna jacks on modern cell phones are typically for calibration or testing only. If you attach an external antenna the internal circuitry will permanently calibrate for it, and your internal antenna will no longer work (because your phone will always expect a much stronger signal than the antenna can deliver)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] fantomex:
Dunno nothing about the calibration but Nardholio is definitely more experienced with this but I personally have this port accessible under the battery without need to disassemble the device.

I was used to these ports back in the early GSM days. They were standard in Ericsson phones. There's not a single word about this in the manual.

This post will tell you more: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1273292
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] jarrodlombardo:
That's exactly what I did. I was the one that first posted about unchecking auto reboot. I OTA upgraded to MA2. Flashed CWM with Odin. Rooted with CWM and rebooted. I now always have stock recovery even though I did nothing that should have reverted to that. :/
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
The stock ota has a script that flashes a recovery. It uses the kernel from boot.img and just smashes on the recovery ramdisk.

I think onelikeseabass made a version that didn't touch recovery.

sent while running with scissors
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Codename_Falcon:
Has anyone tried to create any of the known mods to the stock ROM for the relay (ie. CRT-off, ripple effect, 4-way reboot)?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Nocturin:
Not yet...

and I can't stand the ripple effect or CRT-off (pixel wear what what?!) so that's ok with me :).
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
:highfive: TWRP for you guys thanks to KemoNine https://nuskunetworks.box.com/s/cyv4occbx5c84jbymej1

This recovery supports charging, and if you're running a kernel that has the clock enabled (our cyanogenmod builds and it shouldn't be too hard to create a custom kernel for stock) it even displays the time

It's not in any kind of flashable format, but it goes on /dev/block/mmcblk0p18

I'll leave it as an exercise to the community to come up with some kind of flashable format for it.

Also please provide feedback on whether this solves weird charging bugs with cm 10.1
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Jason78729:
Thanks Nard. I'll flash and update on the charging issues and attempt to complete your challenge of creating a flashable zip.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Jason78729:
TWRP Clockwordmod Zip

Attached is the clockworkmod flashable zip containing Nardholio's new TWRP recovery image. Just tested on my phone and all seems good. Used GeeOne's previous CWM recovery zip so the actual credits should go to him.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Jason78729:
Make sure to wipe cache and dalvik after installing new recovery. I was getting I/O errors on my external SD Card but booting back into TWRP and wiping cache and dalvik these errors were resolved.

Update: My new SD Card is having same issues with CWM recovery so ignore the above stated issue of I/O errors. Went back to my old SD Card and not having these issues.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] o>c:
Samsung has never been never my top choice, but not this time for this offering with a keyboard. The CPU is fine for me, downgrade in camera from my current phone is acceptable and the looks of the Relay is bearable. Just hope the screen is not a typical blue/green/yellow tinted AMOLED, which will be a deal breaker for me. Another important thing is the keyboard, apart from key feedback, what kind of mechanism it has for the keyboard? A push one? The sides of the keyboard reminds me of the G2, just hope the Relay won't repeat the horror.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
Ive already posted about 3 times in the new device request thread who knows if anyone even reads that thread though.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
Its official

http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=Samsung-Galaxy-S-Relay-4G
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
Can't say I agree with you on the quality of Dream's keyboard. That keyboard TRULY SUCKED!!!!

The 5th row for numbers was the ONLY saving grace.

It was cramped, off center, poorly laid out, and unreliable (key press fail to register or double up... junk).

The vision/doubleshot keyboards are B- quality, missing 5th row and a lot of symbols, but being comfortable, reliable, and easy.

The Relay seems to have a near perfect keyboard. A, not A+ because it only has an ALT key on the left. Going to have to remap the magnifying glass button to right-alt.

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It would seem that the deal for you, is broken.

Price we pay for great battery life.

Yes, SLCD is a far superior output quality, but they suck back the battery like a cheap hooker earning her heroine.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] revwillie:
god, tmo's site is such crap. I can never log in without changing my password again. My 22 months is up today and today is the release day of the SGSR4G. I'm very tempted.

Then again, blk_jack's Mimicry 1.5.0 with V6 Supercharger on is SO NICE.

There is also the unfortunate history of the Samsung Behold 2 to consider....decisions.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] o>c:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S-Relay-4G-Review_id3129

First review is out.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
How exactly do they define "mid range"? It clearly has a TOP END processor, memory, performance, etc. There is nothing "mid range" about it. Mid range I would define as NO GREATER than an S3 processor. Every single spec on it exceeds the latest apple offering.

Edit... Cons:

Boring design

Terrible photo & video capture

Con (1)... I don't get it... what's so boring about a rectangle with rounded corners? Why would I care?

Con (2)... Its a PHONE camera. It will NEVER replace a DSLR. Image and video quality look fine to me given his samples and the constraints of being a PHONE camera.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Frag1le:
I don't get that either.

The cons phonearena mentions are pros for me.

Pros

Fantastic keyboard

Smooth performance

Cons

Boring design

Terrible photo & video capture

Boring design? Thats completely what you find boring, i find this design professional and good.

Terrible photo & video capture? Come on, the sample video and pictures are fine for a mobile phone. It's about the same quality you get with the G2/Desire Z. So how would phonearena describe the quality of the camera's in the budget phones like the Samsung Galaxy Y/Gio if these pictures are 'terrible'?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] shinkinrui:
We must look for different qualities in keyboards, because I would rate the doubleshoot/MT4GS keyboard a C- due to the poor tactile feedback. I just couldn't type comfortably on that thing. Also, with my G1 I never experienced the key response issues you mentioned. It was off-center, though, that just never bugged me.

At least we agree that the Relay has a very nice keyboard :)

Thanks for posting that, it's a pretty decent review, although he seems to be judging the camera a bit too harshly in my mind. The pictures don't seem to be coming out as bad as he makes them out to be.

EDIT(after seeing the 2 most recent replies): He probably feels he's not doing his job if he can't find the cons :P Also, in all fairness it's pretty obvious Sammy intended for this phone to be viewed as mid-range. 5MP camera, 800x480 screen, 8GB internal storage... I just thank the heavens that they saw fit to include a S4 processor and 1GB RAM in this package, that makes all the difference!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Frag1le:
Yes but for a 4 inch display you can't expect a higher resolution then 800x480 until a better dpi is possible. 8GB internal storage is fine imo when it has a MicroSD slot.

I don't want Samsung to put like 16 GB in this phone and then charge like $50 more when you can get a 32GB class 10 MicroSD for like $50

Only the camera could have been improved.

I think it's better to say that this phone is the bottom of the high-end range phones. It would be mid-range if it would have gotten a S3 cpu imho. And looking at it's price, this ain't a bad deal.

I'm definitely thinking of importing this after seeing these 2 reviews...now wait for the first root and then i'm definitely importing this phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] lbcoder:
Your fingers made out of concrete or something? Tactile feedback on vision and doubleshot (practically the same keyboard) are fine. They have a pretty good release and its easy to feel when its made the contact.

We have two htc dreams, BOTH have keyboard button problems.

What you've supplied does not in any way define it as "mid range", nor is there any suggestion from samsung that it should be considered mid range. From samsung's descriptions, its the best thing ever. From the technical specs, its the best thing ever.

5MP camera, because anything higher is just poser points and doesn't actually result in a better image (stretch image in the GIMP to achieve same results).

800x480 display, because anything higher is just poser points and actually causes an increase in the GPU load and a reduction in performance without actually making the display any more practical.

8 GB internal storage is plenty, plus it isn't relevant since for only a few $$, you can throw in a HUGE microsd card.

All of the characteristics that ACTUALLY DEFINE a phone as "high end" are HIGH. The other specifications are INTELLIGENTLY BALANCED so that they don't DETRACT from the high end nature of this device.

Are people really so fixated on "size" and "resolution" that simply carrying a larger number will alter their perspective? BIGGER IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER!!!!

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Where do you live that microsd cards are so expensive?

$30 CDN: http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=11_175_177&item_id=039319

Not really. The physical confines of a phone make it very difficult to put in a decent camera. Just look at HTC Doubleshot. 8MP, but its got a frikking lens that sticks out by 1/4", AND, despite reviews, its pictures are no better than HTC Vision (5MP). I own both (doubleshot = wife).

Name ONE that's "higher".

Agreed.

Anybody notice the plug for an external antenna:

http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/118912-image/Samsung-Galaxy-S-Relay-4G-Review-16.jpg

*** note that its on the wrong side of the battery... :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
I did a drive by at the T-mo store: the keyboard is nice. The feel is different than the G2, but good. The keys have a much shorter throw and spring back nicely.

sent while running with scissors
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Frag1le:
Where do you live that microsd cards are so expensive?

$30 CDN: http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=11_175_177&item_id=039319

Netherlands, they are like 30~40 euros.

Name ONE that's "higher".

Well currently the high-end phones are seen by most as having larger screens and higher resolution displays and quad cores etc.

I don't have to name all the phones that have these specs, or do i?

I know what you're trying to say, what makes a phone high-end...for me it's a qwerty keyboard and a fast CPU. I guess it's the same for you.

For me the Note/SGS3 or the One X is like a fridge..i don't want one in my pocket so in my opinion the best phone now is the Relay 4G.

Anybody notice the plug for an external antenna:

http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/118912-image/Samsung-Galaxy-S-Relay-4G-Review-16.jpg

*** note that its on the wrong side of the battery... :eek:

Sharp eye.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] shinkinrui:
The MT4GS keyboard may LOOK almost identical to the G2 keyboard, but it certainly doesn't feel the same. The keys feel "sticky" or slow to pop back. And no, I didn't spill anything on it, it was like that since the day I got it. At the time, there was a thread in the MT4GS section where others had the same experience. Can't find it now, but I'm not the only one who didn't care for the keyboard on it. Just relating my own personal experience, and my fingers are indeed normal as far as humans go, no concrete here :P

As for the specs on the Relay, I may have not made my point clear. I view the specs of this phone as being pretty darn high-end, and I'm happy with them(well, I would've preferred a qHD screen, but no biggie). However, I carry no illusion as to what the "tech blog" world is going to say about it and what the spec whore commentors on those reviews are going to say. I can practically write engadget's review for them:

"The Samsung Galaxy Relay 4G's specifications put it firmly in the `mid-range' column. The 4-inch AMOLED WVGA screen, 5-megapixel shooter on the back, 1.3-megapixel front-facing camera, and relatively small 8GB internal storage won't turn any heads, but what may surprise some is the horsepower under the hood. The 1.5Ghz S4(yes, S4) processor is complemented by a decent, if not noteworthy, 1GB of RAM. This type of processing power packed into an otherwise mediocre device really makes it fly, and we experienced little to no hiccups in navigation or even changing apps. If you're looking for a mid-range phone that doesn't feel like its mid-range, this little handset is a good bet."

Etc, etc...

Again, I'm perfectly happy with almost all of these specs, and am going to be quite happy when I purchase this phone. But Samsung knew perfectly well that not giving the phone enough impressive specs to crow about was going to get it this type of reception in reviews. People that don't pay close attention or know what really matters in phone performance are going to see these reviews and say to themselves "ugh, I don't want a `mid-range' phone, I'll just get the Galaxy S III." This is the type of thing that has pushed QWERTY devices into a smaller and smaller niche in the market. Yes, like it or not, to a lot of people bigger numbers DO matter.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] o>c:
Just want to know the keyboard's slide mechanism, is it a secure one?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Hesster:
I'm seriously thinking of picking up a Relay. I want to root it at least so I can install Titanium Backup and get rid of the bloatware. I'd also like to see a strong dev community develop. Does anyone know if there are any stumbling blocks to ROM development like proprietary drivers or a locked bootloader?

It reminds me a lot of the Epic 4G, which had a ton of ROMs and tweaks (which is a good thing because Samsung never bothered to fix the weak GPS, someone had to make a hack to keep it from losing signal constantly.) Unfortunately, it also reminds me of the Stratosphere with its propritary RIL and drivers which led to almost no ROM development. The carrier probably had a lot to do with that, since VZW was actively hostile to the aftermarket development scene.

So will the Relay take after the Epic or Strat?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] shinkinrui:
Sorry, I just wasn't paying very close attention to the slide mechanism when I looked at it. Pushed it open and closed a couple times and it felt fine to me. Standard sliding keyboard, I think it was spring-assisted when opening but I'm not 100% on that.

I'm not sure what you mean when you mention "the horror" of the G2's mechanism, so I don't know what else you're looking for.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] o>c:
The hinge mechanism of the G2 that responses to gravity caused huge uproar when it came out, though I am the ones who don't find it a problem. I guess Samsung won't make the same mistake.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Hesster:
While I haven't checked the phone in person, I can tell by watching review videos that it has the same hinge mechanism as the Epic 4G (which I used for a year.) It's spring loaded so there's a little bit of resistance until the keyboard reaches approximately the half out position, then it will finish opening on its own. Makes it less likely the keyboard will open in your pocket.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] shinkinrui:
Ohhhh, I gotcha. Now that you mention it, I remember that. Just didn't care, lol! It was only a problem for me when I was lying down and holding the phone up, which isn't a comfortable position for me anyway, I always lie on my side.

But yeah, that won't be a problem here, I definitely had to push on the screen to slide it back to the closed position.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Jason78729:
So far charging issues seem to remain with the TWRP recovery. Watching Netflix while plugged into usb causes battery loss. Running various battery apps (better battery stats, android tuner, system --> about) shows little to no gain with either USB or AC charger. All apps confirm that the phone is being charged by the usb or AC charger.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
Try turning your phone off and pulling battery for at least a minute and try again. I haven't had any issues on mine since doing that.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RazoE:
I love twrp! I have it on my nexus 7.

But as a word of caution, can someone post the latest cwm, just in case?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Jason78729:
Attached is the latest CWM recovery zip.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RazoE:
Thank you!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] godraxe:
4g not working on noteII