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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
It's there under lecturenotes.

Sent from my awesome Note 10.1
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lardo5150:
Ok, so I am watching the TF300 forum cause they got JB. I am monitoring the TF700 forum still in case they get JB and if I end up not liking my Note if BB ever decides to tell me it is ready for pickup.

I know there are people monitoring this thread cause they are on the line about which device to buy. As a fanboy of no one, I can say these posts in the link I am showing proves that you should not buy a device based on the fact that it MIGHT get an update to fix its issues.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1840077&page=4

Looks like the JB update is really not helping much with the TF300.

My post here is not to sway anyone one way or another, but I almost kept my TF700 thinking that future updates would fix my BT issue and possibly the I/O issue (which I believe is completely hardware now).

If you are thinking of either the Note or the TF700, make sure it works as you need it to out of the box. Do not buy a device, settle for its issues (whether it is the Note or the TF700) and fall into the hype trap that an update will fix the issue. I came real close to this so hopefully this post will help.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
This is true to a point. It depends on the issue. Software can't fix h/w related issues. On the Prime forum everyone was hoping for a s/w fix for the concurrent Wi-Fi/BT streaming issue but it's radio/reception/frequency related. Asus did what they could with s/w tuning and it got somewhat better but never was able to be corrected because the problem's inherent to the AzureWave radio. Same thing with the NAND issue. There's some flakiness in the Note's s/w I fully expect Samsung to address with updates. Contrary to what people have been saying, Samsung's great with maintaince updates. They''re slow with point and version updates. But to your original point, if something about the Note that's possibly h/w related bugs you don't hang on to it hoping s/w will fix it. Same thing with TW. If you don't like it now chances are you're not going to like it any better in JB. It's been pretty much the same since the i9000 was released.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
My note has been performing flawless. I don't even see the s/w issues people mentioning. I guess I'm always lucky and get good working units ..lmao ;)

This Note 10.1 has been impressing me more n more everyday. Battery life is amazing. Standby time is unreal. In standby I can go several hours, come back and device hasn't even dropped 1%.

Plus the touch wiz on this is not bad at all. What exactly is touch wizard? Those Widgets that come on stock when device first powered up? I got rid of them. My device doesn't lag at all.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sailon314:
First I'd like to thank everyone for the great inputs on these two tablets. I also had been considering sending back my TF700 and getting the Note. While I'm sure I'll miss the HD display, the BT / WiFi issue I have with the TF700, frequent 'skips' when streaming music to a Bluetooth speaker, (same problem I had with an Asus Prime I previously returned) is making this decision fairly easy. I'm going to return the TF700 and give the Note a try. At this point, I will be hard pressed to try another Asus tablet in the future.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lardo5150:
What are the software issues people are talking about, I think I have missed those posts. Can someone elaborate?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I wouldn't call them issues per se. There's occasionally some hesitation moving between home screens and in multi-view mode. None of it's consistent or repeatable. There's some lag if you pinch the home screen to display all the home screens. If it was a typical tablet you'd probably think it was normal. But based on how seamless Pop up play is and how fast the Note is in general, clearly it's not h/w related. I'm not *****ing, I'm more than happy. But sInce a lot of people are agonizing between the Note and TF700 I don't want to paint an artificially rosie picture. Considering how complex the s/w is on the Note and how much has never been implemented anywhere else before I think Samsung's done a great job with V1 of the Note's s/w. This is my third G-Tab. Many of you coming from other brands have had different experiences. Samsung paints themselves as a "premium" manufacturer and should therefore be held to a higher standard. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a maintenance update in the next 30-45 days to smooth out some of the rough edges.The SGS3 is on its fifth update and there was nothing fundamentally wrong with it. That's just how Samsung rolls.

I'm in Louisiana visiting friends and family and a funny thing happened. Every one of them use iPads. With my older tablets I'd cringe when one of them would use my Android tablet because of the lag and lack of polish. Today someone used it while I was across the room and I watched them. For the first time they didn't say anything. Nothing at all. That silence shows you how close to an iPad experience the Note delivers.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lardo5150:
Gotcha. I remember in another post you told me I probably wouldnt like touchwiz. First thing I will do is try it out and then install either Apex or Nova. Hopefully that will speed some stuff up. I could care less about the tw widgets, I usually just use one, and it is an HD widget.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] californiarailroader:
The newest TouchWiz is actually pretty smooth, and well done, though it's not for everybody for sure.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lardo5150:
How has your note been compared to your 700? Did you have any real issues moving to the lower resolution at all?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SM05:
The only thing that had immediately jumped at me while doing a side by side comparison at the local BB was Settings menu skinning. I really like ASUS use of "traditional" black background color for settings/menus. Samsung has this white(ish) background color going on there on Note, which I assume it shares with other Tab models. Don't care much for it as it stands out and not in the good way IMHO. This is just my personal opinion and of course, there are plenty of people who I'm sure like it as is. I'm guessing I may have to root mine eventually in order to fix that.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
If you use other Samsung devices you get used to the look of TW and you just accept the bland menus and backgrounds and cartoonish icons. I had a i9100 and then got a One X and the difference in visuals is night and day. Samsung's CEO recently said they need to do a better job with s/w and he's right. Not the mechanics because they've been nailing that lately. But the look, feel, and how it all hangs together can be improved. Hopefully with JB we'll see some signs of his efforts.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] californiarailroader:
Well, I can't say yet on my Note as it will be here tomorrow (Monday), but I've used the new TW on the Galaxy Note (AT&T i717) and Galaxy SII Skyrocket, and it was actually pretty snappy, at least compared to the old ones. The Galaxy SIII has the newest version too, in fact there's a tutorial out there on how to put it on ANY Android 4.0 device-

http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-get-galaxy-s-iii-touchwiz-launcher-on-any-android-4.0.x-ics-device/

This has to be the first time I've ever seen a guide on how to put TW on phones, before this people usually wrote guides on how to get rid of it, so it's obviously come a long ways.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lardo5150:
Hahaha, that made me laugh.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] shinzz:
Wow.... now this I didn't expect......

How is it? I owned the original GTab (too bad I traded in for Prime.. sigh).....

Edit: Btw.. I think you have a bet with me & even Barry.. I think... of Samsung's tablet outselling all of Tegra 3 tablets (except Nexus 7).

Prime, Nexus 7, GNote 10.1 .... are you collecting tablets?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] wanderfowl:
Coming from a Xoom, I'm definitely enjoying this tablet. Touchwiz, I could definitely skip, but very happy with it so far.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] knives of ice:
I still have the Transformer Prime and after months of being unhappy with it i decided to email Amazon today to ask if they would accept a return after their 30 day window. Probably because i'm a prime member and order a ton of stuff from Amazon and of course they have the best customer service around they said no problem on the return will schedule UPS to pick it up tomorrow for a full refund - now that is service.

so after reading this thread i immediately ordered the note 10.1 from amazon at 7pm with overnight shipping for only 3.99 it will be here tomorrow. i'm going to miss the keyboard dock on the prime...but other than that can't wait for the note.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
You got me laughing. I know it surprised alot of people. Barry convinced me to try it out based on his honest review of it. HONESTLY, I'm very impressed with it. Its been a great experience so far. The pen is amazing and very accurate. Very natural feel to writing and replicates your handwriting exactly. Multitasking is a breeze with 2gb of ram plus built in multiscreen with various built in apps. Really cool. This 32nm exynos 4 quad core is very fast and great on batery life also. I know its more powerful CPU and gpu wise than tegra3. Bit tegra3 on nexus 7 is a great experience also.

Am I collecting tablets? Well I gave my ipad1 to my gf & daughter. The nexus 7 is my foray into the 7in. Tablet scene for ultimate portability. Very impressed with it also. I love how jb performs on it. As for my prime, well I retired it early. Got tired of seeing everyone exchanging or getting refunds from best buy for infinity pad. I used that money to purchase this note 10.1. I have 30 days to test it out. I can always go exchange for infinity pad if I end up not liking it. I doubt it though seeing as how much I like it. Battery life is stellar. Performance is really good. Display really good.

I remember the bet we all made..lol. but nexus 7 should be included since its tegra3 ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] shinzz:
How did you get your money back?? Or did you sell it & if so... where?

Btw, you are going to disappoint a lot of people who kept their Prime or bought their Prime based on your extremely favorable perspective towards Asus & Nvidia, news, and leak.....

I would have bought GNote 10.1 had it come out early.... but I'll be purchasing Win 8 tablets (been using Win 8 as my main OS after downloading from MSDN) & if Surface RT version is $200 as the rumor suggest (although I cringe at the fact that it has Tegra 3)... my Prime will be sold to purchase that (along with x86/64 Win 8 tablet).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
You will be very happy with that decision. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
Asus still good in my book considering how well my Nexus 7 performs and my overall experience with prime. I'm sure you would really like the new Note though. Android performs really good on it. No ANR, no gaming issues, no I/O issues, web browsing super fast. Speakers and sound quality(wolfson dac I believe) is amazing.

As for your question, PM me. Can't discuss that publicly.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Honestly, the ONLY time one notices the lower resolution on this screen is when using the browser in overview mode. Unless you are trying to view very tiny fonts, they appear quite smooth and no jaggies.

I am perfectly happy with the screen and love the speed the lower res offers. I have an i7 laptop on ethernet and I swear web pages load faster on this on wifi than they do on my laptop (especially if you use a speed demon browser like "Boat").
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Outwardly, it doesn't look that different than the G-Tab 2. Same thing at first glance when using TW/ICS. Also, out of the box without apps, even the OG G-Tab seemed snappy and most reviewers don't load more than a handful of apps in their testing. Samsung just released ICS for the OG G-Tab a week before the Note came out so I spent a lot of time playing with it. I have to admit that when I first turned the Note on I was a bit disappointed at the similarity. After using it for a week with 97 apps and 30 widgets the experience is night and day. I'd guess that at least half of TW is new for the Note even though it may not look it. Reviewers probably spend a couple of days (which translates in to a couple of hours) with devices they review. Almost all of them focus on the S-Pen (as they should) and probably just assume everything else is similar to previous G-Tabs. That's the only reason I can guess for the rather mediocre reviews. At the end of the day all Android tablets are basically the same. The differences being the display, SoC/GPU, and s/w differences (both OEM & Android). Outside the lack of a 1080P display I don't know what reviewers were expecting from the Note that it doesn't deliver.

GSMArena does solid indepth reviews. Here's their closing words. Having read the review I tend to agree with their conclusions.

"Final words

The Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 is perhaps the most powerful of slates. It has RAM that no tablet can match and multi-tasking capabilities better than anything we've seen so far. Heavy browsing and memory-intensive apps, which are key to the tablet experience, are handled with unprecedented ease. Then comes the special pressure-sensitive stylus and an array of well-designed software to put it to good use. Photoshop Touch and Adobe Ideas in the Galaxy Note's bundle add an extra dimension to an already impressive device. In short, the Galaxy Note 10.1 handles all typical tablet workload with ease and throws in a little extra. The thing is that all premium tablets have a few aces up their sleeve and it's really down to how important the pen functionality and that multitasking prowess are to you. "

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_10_1-review-798.php
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
I agree with the conclusion also.

Even now. I put my tablet into power savings mode. Which CPU spy shows it downgrading to a Max of 1ghz. Even at that speed everything still moves fast & fluid for me. Browser still loads up pages fast. I activated to see if i would notice a significant drop in performance and how Much longer battery would last. Battery life is really good at normal speeds. So I know power savings with 1ghz Max speed should last alot longer. Even multitasking is not bad at this speed. I just opened gallery in multiscreen. Still moves good along with browser switching back n forth. I haven't tested out gaming with power savings mode yet. Ill throw nova3 at it and see how it performs. Although CPU is underclocked to 1ghz(power savings mode) the gpu will still be full power.

This tablet is still good even if you don't use the pen. the specs alone, quality components, and stability of s/w, is enough to consider This device. I'd say the Nexus 7, Galaxy Note 10.1, & Infinity Pad are easily Androids top 3 hard hitting tablets right now. If someone wants an android tablet, it better be at least one of those 3. Ill admit, although Samsung took forever to bring this out, they did a good job. I hope they win the case against Apple. MOTOROLA is going to sue apple also. They claiming all idevices currently in circulation infridges on several of their patents. We know Google owns those patents now. So Android is finally fighting back. Apple and their patent trolling is getting old and making it hard for new companies or manufacturers to come out with something innovative. In fear of apple saying they discovered it first...lol
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] shinzz:
Most reviews tend to focus on the DESIGN of the tablet. For example, Androidpolice gave it a negative review (if you read their review) mostly based on poor design of the tablet. The early reviews from major tech sites are just that.. nothing more. If it looks good... it is considered the best tablet (Prime for example)... but if it is ugly & use plastic cover... it is considered a failure. Most seem to ignore the functionality of the tablet itself.....
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lardo5150:
i returned two tf700's.

i will now be exchanging my first Note. It had light bleed directly under the volume button. My other two tablets did to. Are all tablets going to have light bleed? I see it on boot up and all black screen (checking screen with the screen check in ES Task Manager).

Really bummed.

but...

I loved the tablet. Volume/power buttons did not seem mushy like on my two 700's. I will test BT out once I get a Note without bleed.

I thought it was just as snappy as my 700's and the stock browser was crazy fast which I thought was weird (in a good way :) )

I am not a fan of touchwiz, although I am sure I will be fine with it after using it.

Overall, i am very pleased with my exchange/returns/purchase, I just need to get one without light bleed.

Going up first thing in the morning when BB opens so that I can grab one from stock and not have to wait for another one again to be shipped to store.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
With the nature of how these LCD displays are made, there's no escaping alot of them having lightbleed. Its a matter of how extreme it is. It is possible to get one without it but you have to keep exchanging to find it. This goes for any tablet. New ipads have lightbleed also along with primes, nexus 7 and others.

I haven't noticed any on mines though. If the lightbleed is bad and cery noticeable, exchange it. If its very minor and only noticeable because you keep staring at it, lol, then its likely a keeper. Or you can exchange until you find one with none, although chances are you will have to go through a few units to find it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mi7chy:
Light bleed, ghosting, etc. is just inherent with LCD with backlight technology. I really hope Samsung moves to OLED with the next Galaxy Note to eliminate those issues plus dark scenes have better detail.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
I like the plastic build of it. It isn't like it looks or feels cheap. At least to me it doesn't. The white version really makes it look good and like a high quality device. Its not metal like prime but I still like it. Now the grey version, looks plain. The white with the silver trim looks better, IMO.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] guthrien:
I returned my Infinity tonight. I didn't have any particular problems with it, as a matter of fact compared to the Prime it was perfect, but I reached the point after using the Nexus 7 and the Galaxy S3 (the best Android device I've used) that there just wasn't much point to a 10" tablet if I owned an iPad 3. The Infinity had no software optimized for it and it's not much of a hassle to use a Bluetooth keyboard. I mostly use the Nexus 7 and Galaxy since I got them.

I was able to use the Note 10.1 for awhile. Despite the bad reviews, my past experiences with Samsung tablets was nice and their phone is amazing. I almost pulled the trigger but ultimately it didn't seem like a compelling replacement.

It's much better than the reviews I've read, it's snappy and gives an overall feeling of polished design. I like the s-pen a lot, it works well in S-Memo. I like the idea of actually using the Samsung software with my phone.

However, there still isn't enough compelling software. The pen is great, but there's barely anything to use it with, especially if you aren't satisfied by S-Note. The photoshop app is nice, but shallow. There isn't any sign yet that many developers are going to support it. The dual screen apps are limited to a couple Samsung selections, again so limited.

It's a nice screen, but it's lo-res compared to every other device I use. I see why they did it for performance and the pen, but it's a disappointment. Anyone who says it isn't much different than the newer resolution screens hasn't used them or is exaggerating to say the least. You see it with any text, heck even the icons on the screen.

Anyhow, nice device, way nicer than the uniformly bad reviews. But definitely not there yet IMO. I'm a fan of Samsung so I'm looking forward to the next one.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I'd guess they did it because they had no choice. Exynos Quad doesn't support a 1080P display.

"In addition, the new processor was architected to drive up to 1366 x 768 (WXGA) display and incorporates a full HD 30 frame per second video hardware codec engine for high resolution 1080p video recording and play-back, an embedded image signal processor interface for high-quality camera functionality and an HDMI 1.4 interface for sharp and crisp multimedia content transmission."

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/news_12.html

Yes and no. I don't think anyone would turn down a higher-res display given the choice. I'd even pay another $50 to have it. While the same resolution as previous Samsung tablets the display on the Note has been improved. I have no idea whether it's a better panel or content-based s/w tweaks but its noticeable when I put the Note next to my P7500. PC World observed the same thing in their review.

"Nevertheless, Samsung has done something with this tablet behind the scenes to boost its display performance. Image sharpness and color are dramatically better than in the 10.1-inch Galaxy Tab 2, and the sharpness and detail of my high-resolution images in the Google Gallery came close to matching what you'd find on a high-pixel-density display. Also, though most Android tablets struggle with skin tones, the Galaxy Note 10.1 produced some of the most realistic skin tones I've seen. Text clarity was better than on the abysmal Galaxy Tab 2, but it couldn't hold a candle to what you'd get on one of the high-pixel-density displays."

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2609...w_the_pen_sets_this_android_tablet_apart.html

I think higher-res displays make a more meaningful difference in phones than tablets because content is usually more compact because of the display size. And there are performance and battery life benefits to the lower res display and the benefit of the additional pixels isn’t noticeable equally across applications. But your point is valid. Forgoing the 1080P display in return for performance, quality, and features is a compromise.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] guthrien:
I actually think it's more impactful on tablet because I interact with text more, reading, browsing, along with photographs and other graphics. Being by their nature visual interaction machines larger higher resolution displays are simply nicer. But it's funny how we learn to adjust to better standards, I used to read on similar screens all the time without being easily distracted or bothered.

In it's class, it's a very nice screen, I'd say it easily outclasses the Xoom, Tab, Transformer Prime, etc. I'm personally a big fan of Samsung screens and coloration in general though they obviously get criticism from some.

(To be clear to everyone, just giving my opinion as a former Transformer owner, extremely happy for people who are happy with the Note and not interested in talking people out of it. Nothing better than getting a gadget you enjoy).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] californiarailroader:
I had a Asus TF700 (I had to return two TF700's to get a third, good one), and before that an Acer A700 (returned due to MASSIVE overheating), and while they are slightly sharper, I don't see a "like black and white to color or sdtv to hdtv" difference in the screens, I just don't. So as one who has had 1080P screens, I am not "exaggerating" :) With Samsung, I can usually buy a device and have it just work, you just can't say the same of Asus and many others, the Nexus 7 being the exception. They say having 1080P on a screen less than 30 inches or so is usually a waste, this thing is 10.1 inches. Would I like a 1080P screen on this? Yes. Is it enough of a a difference to lower my enjoyment of the tab and do a return? No.

Edit-I watched the 720P video included on the Note 10.1, the Helicopter one, and the screen on this is OUTSTANDING!