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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] pudgybunnyBry:
I don't think you'll need to flash, you should be able to drop it in and get going.

You. Will. Obey. XDA Premium - Samsung SGH-T699
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] shawndaivari:
It worked. Thanks a lot.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] debork:
So there's this Samsung sale that's coming up supposedly, with FAR phones: http://www.tmonews.com/2012/11/t-mobile-holding-two-day-samsung-sale-on-november-16th-17th/

That definitely looks like a Relay on the right...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Jax184:
Oh, what a tease!

I'm up in Canada on the Wind network, which uses the same frequency band as T-Mobile. Since they're small, they don't really have any phones of their own. No exclusives. I'm basically limited to importing T-Mobile phones, like my current buggy Sidekick 4G. So I've been itching to get my hands on a Relay since it was announced.

This would be great, except for the whole not-a-t-mobile-subscriber thing. Can't get a free phone for nothing.

Perhaps this will finally get some Relays out in the wild so I'll find a used one for sale? Since its debut, it seems that only a dozen have been sold used on eBay+the whole of Craigslist.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dillalade:
I had a friend buy the phone instore tmobile USA for me afor 399 and ship it to me here in London.

Received it 3 days after USA release.

This is I believe the only feasible method to behold the Relay outside of USA. True ebay has proven very whack for the relay and its accessories.

I'm failing to find sceen guards tha fit the device. Bought off of ebay (hond kong dealer) and 3 different variationsoff of amazon (german dealer.) All of which are incorrect and fkin ****.

Waiting for my skinomi.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
For screen protectors, I recommend Zagg- they have a protector for the front screen that fits and a replacement warranty.

sent while running with scissors
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RazoE:
You'll love the skinomi. Did you get the full body cover or just the screen protector?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Nocturin:
Any word on a forum yet?

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1915

Nexus 10 :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] debork:
TMobile standard subsidized price is $149 after rebate, this is $0 after rebate. That's a sale of $149. If this promotion offered a price of $149, that would be $0 less. That would not be a sale.

I will be purchasing this phone. On sale. It will not be a ripoff for me. Because I will spend $149 less than the standard price.

Strangely enough as it is, most promotions that give you a free high-end phone (the S3 is on there too I think) require 2 year contracts.

Also, the main website (which usually has the crappiest prices), shows it at $399: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/Samsung-Galaxy-S-Relay-4G-No-Annual-Contract
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] onebornoflight:
Funniest part of that ad is what looks like a gravity smart second from the right back there and that phone is supposed to be EOL.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] debork:
Yeah, that's like 7 out of the what..8 Samsung phones Tmobile carries? No idea why on earth you would get anything except the top 2-3 phones if they are all free.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] tylik:
Anything?

So is there anything useful that can be done to advance the cause of some decent community ROMs? Beers? Coffee? I don't have much time, I have a reasonable coding background (though not with Android)...

...and even with root, I am reminded how much I hate stock ROMs. Hate.

Also, this lack of decent tether is annoying. (Ideally I need something I can use for both my linux boxen and android tablet - well, tf101, so convertible, really.) I promised my sister I'd send her my G2... but I don't want to give it up until I have the Relay in a more useful state. When we lost power for three days during Sandy, the G2 was our home internet.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] OriginalGabriel:
How is a free phone a ripoff?

Sure, you have to sign a contract but as it stands, you have to do that anyway unless you buy the phone outright. Saving a few hundred dollars (what it currently costs with signing a new 2 year) is in no way a ripoff.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] demkantor:
Never paid full price for a phone, I have 4 lines on my account and I pay 180 after tax a month for unlimited talk text and internet on all of them, if I had a 2 year plan I would have to buy my phone from tmobile, or get it free in this deal, but I would pay more per line each month and over the course of the 2 years it would cost me more to get the phone from them then stay on my non contract contract,

That makes it a rip off, nothing is free
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gtmaster303:
No moderator can make the new forum. They are all giving the same generic replies. Essentially XDA will add the forum as it sees fit. And there's no ETA. So I will resort to contacting the XDA forum admin Mike Channon for help. I will keep you guys updated
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] demkantor:
very true, my g2 could be as thick as my g1 and id still be happy, hell it could be as think as my nokias or motorolas from 12 years ago and id be fine, couldn't care much for a bigger screen though 4" is way more than enough for me, I mean its a phone not a tablet... and seriously have you ever picked up a phone and said "wow this heavy, I can hardly hold it up to my ear" I mean even those old "bricks" I used to carry around felt like nothing more than a deck of cards in my pocket.

don't know why everyone wants a paper thin phone... tv... what is wrong with even an inch thick? whatever I'm rambling...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
It's all relative folks. He was talking about a 4.8" phone that would be more than twice as thick as any other non-phablet on the market right now. Compared to the iPhone 4S? Yea, I'd say it could pretty much pass for a cinder block :)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] mputtr:
the screen size doesn't matter since the qwerty will still take as much depth as it would if it's a 4" screen or a 8" screen. so no... the comparison is about as bad as saying a half pound extra in your backpack weights as much as a ton.

it's overblown and ignorant.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
Or, you know, a joke.

NO FUN ALLOWED.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] KyraOfFire:
deleted. Sorry.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] mputtr:
there's a joke...

and then there's a bad joke.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
So heres Tmonews press release on the Relay. Says S3 chip.

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mobile-announces-the-galaxy-s-relay-4g-qwerty-keyboard-and-all/

BUT here is samsungs spec sheet which says "1.5GHz, ARMv7, MSM8260A"

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-T699DABTMB-specs

and if you look at this it shows that model # is an S4 chip

http://www.qualcomm.com/chipsets/snapdragon

If it does happen to be an S4 chip who thinks this will be worth getting? If it has the S4 chip then I'm hoping a good amount of people pick it up because I would hate to have a phone with out dev support. Any G2 devs planning on picking it up?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
I can't speak for dark, but neither flinny, fyodor or myself would unless they released a world version.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] KyraOfFire:
Sigh, if it had 2GB of RAM, I would definitely get it :( SGS III is still my choice for now.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] demkantor:
Really 2gb? It wasn't too long ago that I was impressed with a color screen on a phone.... my first computer would have cost a small fortune if it had two GB of ram....
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] KyraOfFire:
that's exactly why I want to have 2GB of RAM :) 1GB fantastic for a phone running ICS or JB , but technology goes too fast that 1GB won't be enough by the time I renew my contract in 2015.

To be honest I don't get how can Android phones run that slow with that much of computing power (we landed man on moon with much much much less computing power and I still remember running Office 2003 with 300MHz CPU 128MB RAM on Win XP), but with thing as they are now, I definitely want a $180 2GB RAM flagship vs $99 1GB RAM mid-range phone.

Edit: I forgot I was talking about T-Mobile. It may be priced $250.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
Won't either phone go down to like $50 after a month or so anyway? Saving $90 on a device you'll use every day where that price means a phone half as powerful seems pointless. Just pony up and get the "premium" device or wait a few months IMO. That said, buying phones on contract is for suckers! ;)

Though none of this matters since all the QWERTYs being released are garbage.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
Can i just point out that the international version of the S3 has 1gb ram. Also all more ram means is that you can have more apps running at one time, android apps dont really suck up ram. I currently have a g2x and i dont even use all the ram that it has. Im more concerned about the chip being an S4 than i am about having another gb of ram that i wont use.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Matze5800:
Yeah, but the free ram will be used for caching by the linux kernel... so it actually DOES matter.

Gesendet von meinem HTC Vision mit Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Joe333x:
Idk we all just seem think that larger numbers is always the way to go. Easy example is with MP on cameras. Samsung released the international version of the s3 with 1gb ram because they knew thats all it needed, but because they needed to ditch the quad core chip for the us version they decided to add a gb of ram to make people feel like it will make up for the loss of 2 cores. Currently 1gb of ram is plenty for an android device.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] KyraOfFire:
Well, as I stated, I want 2GB for the future 2 years from now.... Apps and OSes will certainly need more RAM. Also, Dual core 1.5GHz with 2GB makes sense for me while Quadcore 1.4GHz with 1GB of RAM just looks nonsense.

While larger numbers is not the way to go for many cases, it's true for the majority of cases in technology as long as we're comparing apples to apples.

For RAM? I will get as much as they still sell me at a reasonable price. Who doesn't want to cache the entire OS plus 2000 apps in the memory? Is it just me? :D

Edit: By the way, I am not getting the Relay 4G :D
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] mputtr:
free ram is wasted ram as far as I was told about how linux works. If you're not even filling up 1gb, then you get a 2gb, it's still wasted ram. So I don't see what the big deal is with NEEDing to get 2gb for the future.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] tronmech:
If my first computer had had 2gb of ram, it would have overflowed my bedroom and possibly my house. To say nothing of the cost. (Got first computer in 1981, it was a Sinclair zx-81 with the 16KB expansion pack)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Matze5800:
I think you should take a look at this and stop thinking that linux wastes all the free ram...

what you heard is the way that windows works...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] mputtr:
you've misread it.

What I meant was that linux will make use of the ram by filling it with what it believes will be the most used files. In other words, if you have so much ram that it can't even fill it up, that extra free ram is simply wasted ram.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] John5788:
i think its ridiculous that we dont have a forum yet
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dillalade:
Went for the full body guard, buttt the pictures give the impression the wrap around the side is not one piece like on prevous Zagg covers for other devices, otherwise it looks like a win and I need it, dropped the Relay and the body scuffs and deforms very easily.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RazoE:
Yeah, it's multiple strips. But once you get the top pieces on, you'll know why: it'd bulge and warp if they made it one piece, due to the curvature.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Kaczman:
also cant believe we have no forum yet.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] OriginalGabriel:
Insulting ones intelligence for stating fact? Nice one.

Sure, there's no such thing as free, but to the vast majority who aren't grandfathered in and sign a new contract whenever they upgrade, a "free" phone is not a ripoff as you said it was.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] onebornoflight:
Hey guys let's keep it civil and remember that we're on a borrowed space ok?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
Question about Clockworkmod 6.0.1.2 - what is this depupe format all about. It looks like it stores an index and blobs of all the files. I guess this is faster, but are there are blob tools to manipulate the actual backups, if for example, I wanted to dump them and manipulate or look at files? The directory structure on the sd card is outrageous.

Does anyone use it? or is everyone just sticking with the tried and true tar.a format?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Naviiin:
Sorry to interrupt all the custom ROM talk, but I have a bit of a problem ordering this phone. I'm an international buyer so I'm trying to buy this phone off contract and have it shipped to me via Borderlinx. When I go to the T-mobile website I can put the Relay in my basket just fine, but when I click on purchase it redirects me to a part of the site where I have to pick out a plan. Anyone know what I have to do there? When I click on no annual contract plans it doesn't work. Or does anyone know of an easier way to get a Relay shipped to me internationally for the same price (399)?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] blk_jack:
That's because "createpassword" is user lbcoder, who's account is now deactivated.

My guess is he got reported one too many times and was banned?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
I saw that T-Mo is pushing 4.1 to the sg3. Anyone want to speculate wildly when we are getting it for the relay?

sent while running with scissors
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Nocturin:
A long time from now :silly:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] racosta201045:
Okay where is the fourm for this...I think this phone is worthy of being rooted and have a gang of people working on it

i am coming from the Samsing Epic 4G rooted on CM10 and I am pretty much understanding the the whole setup..

So what is needed? WHere do were start???

I am trying to get this running PM me with anything on this or reply...

BUT WE NEED A FOURM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
It's already rooted and we have cwm recovery and custom boot.img's. There is even some work on getting cm9/10. All we're missing are badges.

sent while running with scissors
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] racosta201045:
Can you post me a link so i can get started??
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34139711

I think it's starts around post 400ish... maybe???
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] wuziq:
y'all should put something in your sigs that says something along the lines of "SAMSUNG GALAXY S RELAY 4G NEEDS ITS OWN FORUM" :D:D:D increase dat visibility
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
Meh, I just gloss over it. I'm not familiar with script, but I thought that firerat made significant contributions to the G1. He was a blunt and honest sometimes, but I wouldn't lump him with lbcoder. Perhaps I haven't read all his posts.. I'll get right on that.

Back to developement, my flash counter is up to 6, if that is any indication. The other day I made a recovery by taking the sbin and res folders from the sg3 cwm recovery and copying them to the stock recovery. It boots up fine, but I think powered off charging isn't working yet, but I have an idea. I guess this would be a port of a recovery.

Ok, back to your regularly schedule flame war...

sent while running with scissors
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] demkantor:
Continued....

I may have added a "t" , scrip

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=23421335

And I have gone back and forth on issues in the past, same with createpassword and what ever other allias is used

But there has been many a time that any of these users have helped me a lot, so even though they are a pain to deal with

There is something added having them around (learned how to setup a vm from scrip, learned how to use custom mtd partitions from firerat etc.) Just hope createpasword can do some quick good before the ban kicks in and I can say I learned some thing new (and relevant, not opinionated superiority) ....sorry done with this

Back on track, why not create a group for now? The more prevelance this devices has on xda the more likely the mods will come around. And a group is almost like a thread for a device, but I don't think you can read/write w/tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] PNuT.:
seems a strange reason to have a samsung development thread in an htc desire z general section to me.... but the mods seem happy with it!

its only questions about the fone which the section is designed for they seem to get their knickers in a twist over :silly:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] racosta201045:
Just got root. On stock cwm recovery. I habe a question which recovery do we use for right now? I put the SG3/metro version. Let me know if im wrong

Samsung GS Relay Rooted Stock

Samsumg Epic 4G Rooted CM10

HTC Evo Shift 4G Rooted Stock

Moto Cliq Rooted CM9
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RazoE:
Youre going to brick your device. Flash the recovery posted in this thread. You can then reboot into recovery using the home, volume down, power trick, or get Terminal Emulator and type:

Su

<enter>

Reboot recovery

<enter>

That simple.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] racosta201045:
What is the post ID? For the recovery
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] demkantor:
i think its located somewhere near the search button... could be wrong

30seconds later....

LINK TO POST

I GUESS ITS THIS ONE...opps
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RazoE:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33323044&postcount=469
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] racosta201045:
Appreciate it....Any word on the forum??
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] TheDigitalBug:
Meanwhile at XDA:

"We're getting dozens of requests for a new Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G forum."

"Welp, better make a Galaxy S Camera forum." :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Nocturin:
Hundreds of requests.

We're still top dawg in the forum request thread, which seems to of been done just to satisfy the masses.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...0814032659?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43b5ddfb13

LOL

By the way, there is a cyanogenmod development team, with teferi, noptys, and Kornyone (and forgive me if I've missed anyone) with booting cm9 and cm10 with working audio, cellular data, and wifi (or at least wifi is close). There is an extensive list of things that _don't_ work as well (phone call audio, bluetooth, nfc, camera, physical keyboard mappings). I'm not sure when they're planning on a beta release, private testing is already in progress and yes it's awesome :)

PS don't thank this post, I'm just a messenger
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] citykiid:
I can't believe this phone has no support? I just brought it today to replace my Trusty G2, with the keyboard and specs alone I took it home. but the phone doesnt even have a section:crying::crying:

well back to the G2, can't deal with stock & bloatware.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] CQd44:
That's actually me. I'm just pretty disappointed there isn't more involving this phone, so I'm selling it.

:x
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] onebornoflight:
Lol and there won't be more involving the phone if only people like you bought it to begin with. Not to flame you personally, its the fact that you're willing to give up on a good device instead of helping people here to make it better. We've been hitting up the new device requests, thanking and posting, I've been talking to people on the HTC doubleshot forums that are having device issues/deaths about joining us over here. We are the first of the team that CAN make this device and the community that supports it great... either you're willing to work for the goal or you aren't. We have root, we have custom recovery, if those of you who aren't satisfied with the speed of development really wanna help - find a thread on how to deodex and debloat roms, set up your machine to compile, and build yourself a debloated stock rom to get yourself through until korny and co. get a CM alpha or beta up for everyone to enjoy. Or start a bounty thread for us to get a relay in the hands of your favorite dev from your favorite device that you came from. Let's be constructive instead of "oh my there are no roms, better sell this phone and get one that other people have already done the work on." Kinda like how when teams in sports are winning, all these new fans pop up? That seems to be how some end users are too. Well... I am NOT going to be like that. Who's with me?

Oh and thanks SO much to the Desire/G2 mods for allowing us this space!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] racosta201045:
Removal Tool???

What removal tool do you reccomend? I dont mind using differnent kinds
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gee one:
I used the linux command line- I just unpacked the system folder, deleted all the stuff, and then repacked and flashed via hiemdall. Anything that let's you remove system apps will work.

I'm going to try to make a flashable, deodexed stock rom, but it might be a few days because things are pretty busy.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] skushmer:
If anyone could figure out how to replace the tmobile tether mess with the regular ics wifi and bluetooth, id be very grateful. I know the s3 guys have figured it out.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Nocturin:
Foxfi and user agent switcher :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] fantomex:
I used Titanium Backup freeze function.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] dillalade:
I don't need tether but I used have great success with 'Open Garden' app, worked great on previous droids.

---------- Post added at 09:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:50 AM ----------

Managed to get Google Now to run very well over our stock ICS rom.

I personally didn't enjoy Svoice and froze the app without any consequences, having a better expereince with Google Now.

Flashable zips found here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1747224

Arm7 > Flashable Zips > M7 or M7 inverted both worked for me.

Simply flash from CWM, reboot & enjoy.

Step 3 in this link details how to replace the double tap home feature to open Google Now instead of Svoice http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1823194

Unfortunately the very latest version of Google Now (29th October release) which caters for more cards (that can utilise bookings etc from your gmail and calendar) is not yet hacked & available for us non JB users.... just a matter of time though. Until then, we atleast have a previous iteration of Google Now which I can say works very well over out stock rom.

Enjoy
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] tylik:
You got tethering working with foxfi? I have not been able to so far - what's your config?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
Since we don't have our own forum, I present the first public release of (a very broken) CM9

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34360051

Flash at your own risk.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] skushmer:
I was unable to get it working with the stock rom. I did get it to work with the rooted rom and the tmobile tethering provision frozen. But, I couldn't get connected more than once using a password protected setup, I had to run open security.

I really liked the stock tethering with my G2 on Andromadous Mimicry 1.5. I never had any issues. I mainly used it for my ICS tablet when away from the house.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] tylik:
I've rooted my Relay, and have yet gotten any tether to work (though I have at least one more USB tether to fully set up). My other machines see Foxfi just fine, but the authentication isn't, so far. (Nor, using the free version of foxfi, have I noticed an option to run an insecure connection.)

I'm pretty pleased with the hardware, and I'm certainly willing to wait until the ROM situation improves (or even try to help, though again, no Android background, pretty packed schedule) but... my sister fell quite in love with my G2 when she was up visiting earlier this year, and my plan has been to give it to her once I had the Relay in a usable state. As much as the stock ROM annoys me, the stock ROM + usable tether would be passable.