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[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
i'm gonna disagree about the lag. it's 60 fps for the most part, but there is a delay in switching screens which can get annoying.

also, i haven't rooted mine yet, so i can't change that VM heap size whatever, so i get launcher redraw ALL THE TIME because the stock messaging app sucks up SO much memory...but i refuse to use crap like gosms and handcent because they suck. either way, i must root my phone to get rid of launcher redraw..but i can't until i fix the charge port :(

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the note 2, really? it's rumored 5.5 inches. that's absolutely stupid. the 4.8 in the GS3 is too big and i have big hands.
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
I have been wondering, can you buy a new 4g phone, such as the GS3 off of ebay and just pop the sim from rezzy in it and get service? I would think you would only get 4g right?

I am seroiusly thinking of hoarding phones like jayochs. :D
[HTC Rezound] con247:
You get full service. Just dial your voicemail first thing you do to make sure it is activated.
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
That's awesome! No activation fee or anything? Just pop it in?

Sweet...........

I thought CDMA required you to activate the NAM over the air to get 1x. 'Cause I know GSM phones allow you to just pop your sim in any phone you want.
[HTC Rezound] Squirrel1620:
Hah I was waiting for someone to correct me :p I was too lazy to look up the exact number.

Back on topic, if I had an upgrade, I'd hold on to it till last quarter maybe even spring 2013
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
It is always hard to tell when the new phones are going to come. But, I like my plan now so I will just ignore my upgrade and buy phones off of ebay or something and just swap my sim around.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
why do you think i've been buying so many phones? lol i can't upgrade ever again because i'll have to pay 40+ more a month for less service. you just pop your sim into the new phone, and it activated right to your account...that's why sims are awesome

LTE is some kind of weird CDMA/GSM hybrid, hence the sim to connect to the 4g network. no more manual programming, it's all automatic
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
So that $40 more is because of verizon's stupid family plans?
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
yeah because i'm on an old school loyalty plan and apparnelty they don't want people on them anymore. i pay $40 less than normal people would on my exact same plan, and there's no way i'm paying 40 more for more minutes which i don' ever use, and less data.
[HTC Rezound] kishin14:
I've switched to the S3 from the rezound and love the decision. I get no lag in any app except a Chess game, which is more than likely due to a coding issue since it also lagged on the rezound. I think it the 2GBs of ram really helps. When I reboot my phone, the system precaches many of the apps I use on a daily basis into ram so when I open them, it's lighting quick. I know the rez did this too, but it was obviously limited in the number of apps it could precache.

In terms of battery life, there's simply no comparison. My rezound would barely last an entire day with light to moderate usage. I really had to monitor it constantly throughout the day. The battery life on the S3 is so good, I've actually gotten lazy about charging it, often going two full days with moderate use before plugging it in. Even then, I'd have around 20% juice left. With the rezound, it was constantly a race against time.

The S3 also generates far less heat. I could never play a graphic intensive game like Mass Effect Infiltrator or stream netflix over 4G for more than 20 minutes before I'd hit 43C (110F) at which point I'd cool down my phone out of fear of overheating. With the S3, I can go an hour doing the same tasks and not break 40C.

This is not to knock the rez. I enjoyed the phone when I had it and would probably have kept it longer had the S3 not come out. I gave it to my wife who also loves it. With the official update to ICS, both the battery life and heat issue seems to have improved somewhat as she was streaming an episode of White Collar last night on netflix and after about 20 minutes, the temp was around 40C, which is certainly better than what it was prior to the update.

Nevertheless, having had the S3 for a month now, I think it's better than the rezound in every possible way except build quality and radios. And as others have already said, neither are terrible, just not quite as good as on the rez.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
right now my S3 is at 18.5 hours wiht 37% left and 2 hours 8 min of screen on time. good stuff.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
*Le sigh *if the radios were better I'd throw a case on that ugly phone and rock it. It is smooth as hell.
[HTC Rezound] kishin14:
14hs 50ms with 61% left and 1 hour and 58 minutes of screen time. This does include 8 hrs of overnight time, but still, I'd be lucky to have 15% left after 2 hours of screen time with the rez. Good stuff indeed.
[HTC Rezound] shrike1978:
I wouldn't, but mostly because I had an awful experience with Samsung radios. I also don't think AMOLED screens are all they're cracked up to be. They look good, but I have serious questions to their longevity. They unarguably degrade over time as the organic materials degrade with use. That causes pixel fade and "burn-in," which they claim happens slowly enough that you'll never notice it, but after a year, I was seeing light banding and ghosting on certain images...particularly full screen patterned images.

It's going to take a lot to get me to buy another Samsung. I'm really hoping that Moto or HTC gets the next Nexus phone. I'll even be happy with Asus or LG...just not Samsung.
[HTC Rezound] Apex:
If you like a locked down phone, choose Motorola. Oh, and if you enjoy waiting for update releases which are pushed at a snail's pace, Motorola is for you. I'd never recommend a Motorola device to anyone, not even an ex- girlfriend...
[HTC Rezound] shrike1978:
LTE is GSM. It isn't CDMA in any way. It is completely based on, and was designed as the next evolution of GSM. That's why it uses a SIM. Verizon LTE and Verizon CDMA are two completely separate networks, and only the CDMA network can handle calls and SMS, so the phone has to connect to both. For LTE to work alongside CDMA, a service has to be set up to help the phone decide what to connect to and how, and how to handoff from CDMA data to LTE and back again. Verizon uses eHRPD to handle the interaction between the two networks. It's a fragile layer and if it's not there, Verizon LTE phones can't connect to either data network, which is what was behind the nationwide data outages that happened last year.

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Yea, but that doesn't apply to a Nexus device in any way. The manufacturer just makes the phone to Google's specification.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
On jellybean, I can get about that much on my GNex :p

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Amen. So true.

You can connect to CDMA without eHRPD, but just not LTE, I used to manually turn off eHRPD in the modem settings by dialing a certain set of numbers, and then selecting a couple things, and you can still connect to CDMA.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
interesting information. i thought i read somewhere that it was a hybrid or something and still wasn't as good as pure GSM. idk. thanks for the info!
[HTC Rezound] kishin14:
So imagine what the battery life on the S3 will be once it gets JB :D
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
Yeah, it's fully GSM. The only reason Verizon uses it as opposed to the CDMA evolution of "4G" (Ultra Mobile Broadband) is because Vodafone owns Verizon (or at least mostly owns them) and influenced them heavily to use LTE.

At&t uses LTE because its the natural GSM evolution for 4G

Sprint tried WiMAX and completely failed and has to copy everyone else and use LTE

T-Mobile is skipping directly to LTE-Advanced, a true 4G technology, but went the 42Mb/s HSDPA route first
[HTC Rezound] kishin14:
Deleted* double post.
[HTC Rezound] shrike1978:
Sprint did try WiMAX for a while, but it appears that experiment utterly failed for them. Not sure what the issue with it was...the standard looks good on paper.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
thats true, I forgot about WiMAX. my verizon 3G was about as fast as my friend's sprint WiMAX phone, and my 4G was like 15x faster lol
[HTC Rezound] kishin14:
There's no denying that amoled screen will degrade over time. But Samsung has said that the super Amoled screens used on the S3 utilizes better technology than on previous phones such as the GNex. Additionally, one of the reasons the company opted for super amoled and not the super amoled+ used on the S2 was because the colors degrade slower versus the plus version, especially the color blue. I'm fairly confident that the screen on my S3 will last me the entire time I have the phone without any noticeable degradation in color. If not, lesson learned.
[HTC Rezound] shrike1978:
Yea. The Charge had a SAMOLED+, and I definitely saw some noticeable degradation after a year. It wasn't visible on normal images, but solid colors and repeating patterns had some banding and fading that was readily apparent.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
nexus screen is god awful. yellow tint, banding, ugh just terrible
[HTC Rezound] kishin14:
That's a shame too since super amoled+ screens really are very pleasant to look at. Maybe Sammy will figure out how to keep degradation to a minimum on their plus displays in the future. And also utilize better radios too. Then again, if they did that, what the heck would we have to complaint about?

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How would you compare the S3 screen to the Gnex and the rezound? I'll be honest, I absolutely loved the sharpness of the rezound and thought the colors were plenty vivid. However, I'm really digging the deeper blacks on the S3. Still, I'd take the nova screen on the LG Spectrum over any of these screens in a heart beat.
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
And btw, tmo is using regular lte this year. Not advanced or whatever
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
Sounds like the maxx. That was the one reason I refused to buy it, no matter how much the vzw rep jammed it down my throat or how thin they make it. It is friggen YELLOW!!!!
[HTC Rezound] shrike1978:
The Nexus and the Maxx are both PenTile screens. I'm pretty sure that's what causes the perception of a yellow tint across those phone. The "+" in the SAMOLED+ refers to the absence of PenTile, but they only used that screen on a few phones and appear to have discontinued it in favor of the PenTile screens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
the rezound screen is the best, problem is, i've come ot realize that the LCD is sooooo reflective..like, at lower lights, i can see myself in the phone almost as a mirror.

on the nexus and S3, its like, pure black, and you can barely see oyurself. i've come to love the non-reflectiveness of the AMOLED compared to the LCD.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
hmm... I have read in several places that tmo is using lte advanced instead :confused:
[HTC Rezound] EtherBoo:
I held the Note 1 and absolutely loved it. If the Note 2 is as nice as the Note 1, without hesitation.

No. The SGS3 uses a mini-SIM. You'll need a brand new SIM. VZW should be able to provision you a new one.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
Actually, the Rezound uses a Mini-SIM. The Micro-SIM is the one in the GNex and GS3... also, you could just cut the SIM down to a Micro-SIM size, and it will still work in the Rezound and it will fit the GS3
[HTC Rezound] shrike1978:
You can cut it and be fine as long as you have a template as a guide. I've known people who have done it. Of course, it's better to get a new one, and then get something like this if you need to switch again in the future.

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produ...?cagpspn=pla&gclid=CP7PwKug6rECFQQ6nAodagQAeA
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
i tried cutting mine without a template...i took scissors and just started snipping hahahaha needless to say it was an ultimate fail, so i just took a micro from work lol
[HTC Rezound] liquidraven:
Thanks for all the replies guys, ive decided to hold off. I have a 4g phone, sure the battery life sucks while rooted w/custom roms but it handles simple games and calls just fine even though i have no 4g where im at. Cant justify it, so ill wait it out for the HTC maybe.
[HTC Rezound] Tag798:
I think the NICEST display type is the IPS display... The colors are bright and vivid and you can see it in direct sunlight.... Even tho the phone are terrible... I love the screens on the lucid and spectrum... If only they actually had nice resolutions....
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
i won't lie, the spectrum screen is damn amazing. phones too big though..just like the SGS3. the rezound is like, perfect size, and the nexus is a bit bigger, but it's almost perfect...GS3 is huge.
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
Idk how they would have advanced lte this year when most companies barely have regular lte.
[HTC Rezound] chaos254:
I'm definitely thinking about it. So I have an upgrade on my line. If I transfer it to another family member and upgrade to the gs3. When I get the phone can I just put in my sim card and keep my unlimited data? Can anyone confirm this or have done it with no issues?
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
They have a huge bunch of spectrum that they got from att

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[HTC Rezound] hawkinsandponcho:
Question: Do you know if a VZW store give me a microsim for a GNex that I bought secondhand? I want to be able to test out the reception of the GNex in my area but not sure if there is a big hassle between switching between my Rezound that has my current active line and a new GNex microsim?
[HTC Rezound] Piaband:
After two Samsung devices with absolutely terrible reception I can't go back. Nice hardware, but it has to function too.

Rezound, s-off, loving it.
[HTC Rezound] Evocm7:
I guess the gs3 is semi impressive in the hardware department, but I doubt the camera and screen are better. Not to mention that it is one of the ugliest phones I have ever seen.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
they probably will..goto a corporate store and ask. at my store, since we have to pay for sim cards, we charge people when they come in asking for them.
[HTC Rezound] HowardZ:
let me see,

is the s3 a global phone with a radio that can work on every cell phone company in the USA and even the world? no

does the s3 have a removable battery? no

does Samsung bless unlocking the bootloader via their website? no

Does the Verizon s3 come with an unlockable downloader? no

does the s3 have better screen resolution than the rebound? no

I think my next phone will be the rumored 5 inch 1080p screen phone with quad core cpu.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
1. Wrong it has global radios

2. Wrong again it has a removable battery

3. It has been hacked so the boot loader can be unlocked

4. It has over 300 PPI and after that number it makes no difference

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[HTC Rezound] Apex:
+1
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
You are on your way to having your noob title removed. :)
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
nah, you're still a noob and a half.

but that dude got totally owned. lol
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
On his way.
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Newb.5 ??
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
noob and a half men
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
Half noob, half teenager.
[HTC Rezound] Apex:
Nooby Howser

Noob Live Crew

One Flew Over The NoobNoob's Nest

:D
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Rofl get out! lolololol
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
ugh, you guys totally ruined this thread. lol
[HTC Rezound] HowardZ:
Verizon does not list even one Samsung phone on the Verizon global phone list. you can find the list by searching verizonwireless website.

The latest ota makes the HTC rezound a global phone and should soon be added to the list.

Looks like Samsung phones either use an LTE radio or a gsm radio, but none contains a radio that can do both.

For some people this is important.

For some people having the capability to plug in a 64 gb microSD card is important.

for some people a factory unlocked bootloader is important, and not a hacked unlocked bootloader that will brick your phone the moment an OTA update arrives.

personally, I want a larger screen with 1080 resolution on my next phone. I also don't want to give up any rezound features. for now, I still am on contract.

it all depends on what you want and wish for in your next phone.
[HTC Rezound] jclendineng:
Dude all galaxy phones have the same radio. Verizon will support att tmo and global. The only one That wont is sprint cause the card is soldered in. All 4g phones have global capabilities as the chips support it. You just have to put the sim and program the apn.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
Here's the proof it's a world phone: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1809314

The GS3 has an SD card slot

If you have a custom recovery and a custom rom you can't take an OTA ANYWAY so that's a non issue.

It sounds to me like someone didnt do their research before posting
[HTC Rezound] jclendineng:
+9000 Lol That was just ignorant.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
this dude didn't do any research and just comes in here to bash this phone. seriously? you never even held one. i own both. they're both great phones. stop being a fanboy douchebag.
[HTC Rezound] mmoreimi:
ummmmmmmmmmmm ........... No.

Nice looking specs, but not interested in Sammy hardware.

Even though they do have a huge developer community.

I wish the Rezound had a HUGE developer community. It should. I still am convinced that this is Verizon's best handset hands down. I wish everyone could see that. Excellent radios if I may say so...
[HTC Rezound] Squirrel1620:
My wife just got the gs3 (she won't let me touch it lol) but I have 2bar service and she is constantly roaming out here in nowhere Montana
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
yeah, the radios def arent as good as the rez. HTC radios are just so damn good...samsungs suck.
[HTC Rezound] :
Lol, there's no "best" phone. People have that mindset where just because they love it, it defines it as the "best". Its based on what you PREFER. You would never go around saying one car, phone, rom, etc is the BEST, that's just plain ignorant. Each phone has its pros and cons, it should be what fits YOU.
[HTC Rezound] mmoreimi:
Can we at least agree that there are bad phones? :p

...and the Rezound isn't in that group?
[HTC Rezound] con247:
Hardware is fantastic. It ****s on the Rezound. Camera is great and the screen is excellent. It doesn't suck power & you can see it outside.

All of these are wrong lol.

GS3 is global. It is unofficial like the Rezound was for the past 9 months.

Their radio in the GS3 is VERY good and does everything.

64 GB microSD works fine in the phone

The unlocked bootloader isn't even needed... you can use custom roms on the phone w/o issue when it is locked.

The radios are VERY good. Ill trade a bar of signal for 2x the battery life any day.
[HTC Rezound] HowardZ:
s3 has a locked bootloader

s3 is not a Verizon global phone

These are facts you do not personally care about.

But they still are facts.
[HTC Rezound] rileyd5:
The whole notion/comparison of what device is better is flawed. Why not compare compare it to an HTC One X with comparable specs? The Rezound has a much smaller battery 450mah smaller, s3 processor not a s4, etc etc. Both are very good devices though. I think most of us would go with the updated phone just because of the bump in specs but as we all know the sg3 and htc one x will soon be out of date as well when the next big thing hits the table. So unless you have the ability to switch devices on a consistent basis just be happy with what you got.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
con, it's not to say that the reception is bad, it's not. it does in fact have slower 3g speeds than my rezound, just like my nexus. and i don't get 4g where i live really, so yeah. the fact that it's about 10 db or more less than my rezound is kinda disheartening.
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
You can unlock the bootloader

It has the radios but its not official like the rezound
[HTC Rezound] HowardZ:
the unlocked bootloader has risks of bricking the phone in the future. An ota comes and you own a brick. the bootloader's authors have warnings.

I will say this. if somehow my phone becomes lost. stolen, or damaged. and I don't carry insurance. if I needed a new phone. if the developer edition with factory unlocked bootloader was available, and cost was not an issue. Then I'd very seriously consider buying it.

I wonder how the updates will work on the developer edition? download them from Samsung's website?

I like to be stock rooted, because every Rom I have ever tried has broken some stock functions. I only Rom if I really want a feature it has, and I can live with the features it breaks.

I would not be too concerned that it is not a Verizon world phone where I can use my USA phone number, roam on Europe's gsm networks, pay $2 per minute but no long distance fees for USA calls. I wouldn't mind because my wife's iPhone 4s is a Verizon world phone. :)

but these are two real shortcomings in the s3.
[HTC Rezound] :
Lol at people saying global...like they actually need it....lol...
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
What are you even saying? Lol I'm confused... :confused:

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I guess if they switch carriers? Does it have Verizon branding on it?
[HTC Rezound] wlmeng11:
Well the HOX isn't on Verizon, and most of us are locked into contracts...
[HTC Rezound] HowardZ:
Sorry, I did not mean to confuse you. all phones have pros and cons, and people have different priorities for phone features.

I personally like my phone stock rooted with an unlocked bootloader. after my Motorola droid-x experiences a factory blessed unlockable bootloader is always high on my phone feature priority list. HTC has this, and I think the yet to be released Samsung developer edition galaxy s3 for Verizon will also have this. If this is unimportant to you, that's ok. it is important to some people. Apparently it is important for enough people that Samsung is trying to cater to the demand.

if you haven't read about the developer's edition, here is an article about it I found using google search.

http://m.cnet.com/news/new-verizon-samsung-galaxy-s3-has-unlocking-bootloader/57469880

My last trip out of the USA was a weekend trip to Israel to bury my mother in Jerusalem. My wife's iPhone worked great, and people in the USA could call her on her regular number without any international long distance charges. Verizon charges for using a Verizon global phone overseas via hefty roaming rates. A Verizon global phone roams seamlessly in over 200 countries on cdma and gsm networks. This has nothing to do with switching to T-Mobile or AT&T. Now if this feature is important to you, then you want a rezound over a galaxy s3. If you don't care about this feature, then you don't care, but there are people who do care.
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Oh I get it. You want it to be unlocked by Samsung, and to not just s-off it... And you want an official world phone even though it has all radio and the proper chip set... I always assumed that unlocking the bootloader was just a temporary step until s-off for everyone.
[HTC Rezound] HowardZ:
have you read all these warnings?

http://www.androidauthority.com/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s3-unsecure-bootloader-released-108238/
[HTC Rezound] coachcrey:
going with HTC

will always stick with HTC had multiple Samsung and always run back to HTC

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On top of my earlier statement the sgs3 has what else on the rezound a big screen? Almost too big! I trust in our devs to get us the latest and greatest jellybean so by rezound I stand lol
[HTC Rezound] con247:
Unless you are on the stock rom you won't get an OTA. And if you are on a stock rom, why would you unlock the bootloader? An OTA might brick it. It isn't a guarantee.

It works fine as a world phone. I am sorry you are so hell bent on everything being official. Enjoy the Rezound!