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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cmunho:
I picked up the Note 10.1 to use mostly for sketches. I was planning on doing a proper artist review of the thing when I get a chance, but that could be a week out since I'm in the process of moving and taking a drawing class on top of my normal responsibilities.

You should know that the Jot Touch does not support Android yet. I have one which I use on the iPad. It's pretty good, but the s-pen is far superior.

Also, I'm not convinced the s-pen has 1024 levels of pressure. I believe it has 256 and Samsung is mistaken. At this point there's no way to prove it without some developer writing a little test app.

Sent from my Galaxy Note
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Jonphinguyen7:
Great man! i still have 2 weeks on my return window, anxiously awaiting your sketches.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I asked this in another thread but since you guys are artists you may know. It might also explain the pressure sensitivity question.

I also found a link to the pen with the eraser.

http://www.gearzap.com/official-samsung-s-pen-with-eraser-for-galaxy-note-10-1.html
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] spartan1132:
I'm hoping to get my note 10.1 monday. I'll upload a picture (if they let me being a noob) and give my thoughts. For comparison I do have an Intous 4.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] InsaneCloaks:
I'm a 3D animation student and am looking forward to creating storyboards/artwork in my note :) Will post finding when I get my device.. (I fear that it will be monday at it's soonest)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cmunho:
Here are some thumbnails I was working on for a still life. Just quick stuff. Maybe a minute each. The overall experience with snote is pretty good. The drawing tools are a little bare, but its not bad.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] spartan1132:
Looks traditional which is pretty cool and this was simply s note? Have you tried sketchbook pro yet?

Also I got my tracking information and should be getting my Note 10.1 tomorrow. So i'll have some feed back as well.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fishgimp:
not sure where pressure sensitivity is in sketchbook express, but here are some quick thoughts: I'm writing this on the note 10.1 itself (the handwriting recog is surprisingly capable if you figure out what settings suit you and l write hard-to-read cursive) 1. pen doesn't lag but apps do 2. photoshop touch is crap for drawing, SERIOUSLY. The brush settings are pretty horrible and I could not get it to produce an ink like line that didn't look ****ty and pixellated. If you just want to paint blobs, ok. It can do that . 3. infinite painter is an option, layer paint is neat with a water brush tool like SAI's but you have to be at 100% zoom for it not to lag. I kind of like that one the best for sketch / painting purposes, 4. The tablet is fast and responsive, I don't care about the multiscreen thing and haven't Tested it. 5. it is definitely only capable of being a tablet which you can sketch for fun on,which is all l expected it to do, so I'm pretty happy and keeping my 32 gb version. This isn't a professional tool by any means. . 6. l hope better drawing apps come out, though. l just wanted something small with great battery life to replace my ancient tablet pc but no way will it replace my desktop and Cintiq combo. However as an on-the-go sketchpad it's fine if you can deal with the ghett o apps. 7. All penabled pens l tested work so far and it feels just like TPC pressure though that could be a software issue. 8. After testing like a million apps I had no time to actually draw anything, haha Someone see if sketchbook works with pressure and let me know:) Cheers!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cmunho:
This was just snote. I played with

Sketchbook Pro and it's fine too.

Sketchbook Pro has pressure sensitivity. It has to be enabled in the settings. I'm not sure if it's available in Express, but it works good in Pro.

I generally like infinite painter, but it isn't optimized for this large tablet and is crashing constantly.

I'll check out layer paint too.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] TungstenM:
little sketch I did in sketchbook pro...it doesn't have pressure sensitivity yet, but I prefer it over PS touch and S-Note....the palm rejection works really well, and the s-pen is really precise...I had a transformer prime and I used a Bamboo stylus with it, but ithe s-pen is miles ahead, and the tablet is smoother and less buggy
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cmunho:
It does have pressure sensitivity, but you have to turn it on in the settings.

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Here's how you enable pressure in Sketchbook Pro.

http://db.tt/nzKPPR6T

Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] TungstenM:
oooh thanks I searched only in the brush settings :P
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Magnesus:
Now if only we could get MyPaint to run on Android... or maybe Ubuntu on Note 10.1. :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cmunho:
I was already researching this possibility, but I've given up hope for now.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Jonphinguyen7:
Wow it seems pretty awesome. My prime also had squiggly line issues, but the infinity doesn't... I guess the only difference is the pressure sensitivity and HD screen.

In for more sketch inspiration.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] trineomorph:
I was about to get the new Cintiq 22HD but I couldn't justify the price for the actual amount of artwork I do. I wanted the Note to be the end all be all of Tablets but like someone posted above its strong points is data input whether it be sketches, notes etc. My IPad will have to continue to be my media consumption device.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Scotlac:
Why? Just because of the greater resolution?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cmunho:
Just bought LayerPaint by Nattou.org

Wow. It's a pretty awesome inking experience if you can get over the big UI. It's minimal, but lines are much faster than Sketchbook Pro.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jedah:
Have you considered the Yiynova 10.1?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZR4CFiQEsU

The reviews I've read sound promising. But, it's still something I have to plug into my laptop. I'm gonna stop by Best Buy to try out the Note 10.1. Samsung's promo made it sound like PS Touch was the $h!+, but from this thread, it sounds like that may not be the case.

How is the speed and responsiveness? I tried out the Note (the phone) in the store while it had Gingerbread, and the response was just too slow for my taste (as in I would draw one stroke, and it would appear like a half second later). Would like to see how the 10.1 w/ ICS and quad-core Exynos does in comparison.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Jonphinguyen7:
Great responses so far!

More art please :cowboy:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DaEvil1:
Yes, we need MOAR! And a review from an artist. If there is one decent drawing app that works with this tablet (Allows you to save in TIF or PNG or the likes, doesn't have a noticeable delay in pen input and gives you the basic tools you need) this would be a Godsend.

So far, all the reviews I've seen, has the reviewer open the app, sketch a few lines and say "cool, and you can se pressure sensitivity" etc, which doesn't answer a single question for me. I want digital paper, and I want it now!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fishgimp:
Well I am a professional artist, so I assumed when I said there is no way you will be doing pro work on this I thought that was obvious . No idea how I can make that any clearer to you. You want pro work, buy an intuos or cintiq. For a sketchbook this is fine.

Incidentally what works for someone might not for you, so I advise that you check it out in person. All the rest of us can do is offer facts about what the apps provide in functionality, feel is a very subjective thing.

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Thanks for the sketchbook pressure info!

*by the way, l just tried out Tv paint- An animation pro desktop programme that I don't personally use for work but wow! It draws and paints beautifully. superfast no lag, good smooth curves and lots of brush options etc. It is on beta for android till Nov so please, hop over here, grab it and let them know there's a market ready and waiting! *would be great if they streamlined the interface though.

http://www.tvpaint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&p=52648

not sure it has water brush blending, I'm on vacation and haven't had a tonne of time to play around:) *

PS: glad you liked layer paint, let me know if SBP is worth getting:) *
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DaEvil1:
That comment doesn't say anything. I already know that the digitizer in the Note 10.1 is more than enough to do real work, it all boils down to if the software is good enough and the hardware is responsive enough.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] freedomispopular:
On the Note phone, the tip is, by design, a couple mm off from where it actually draws. Is this the same for the 10.1?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fishgimp:
It says no professional is going to use this to output real paid work. I could texture crap on an ipad but why would l spend forever doing it?

You're being told the details of the available software and hardware so I have NO idea why you're complaining since your questions are actually being answered. Since you're not into looking for available apps yourself...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Boogerwooger:
Papyrus beats all

Hey Guys. Here's a review of the Note 10.1's compatibility for artists from a dude who draws stuff...

While I was disappointed at S-Note, Photoshop touch, and Sketchbook Pro for having poor pressure sensitivity when compared to the Wacom Intuos (without mentioning the Cintiq), I found one app called Papyrus, whose vector brush lines make much more use of Wacom's digitizer.

Notice when you finish the lines with almost any brush on S-note, it ends with a round "nub", even if you aren't applying any pressure. In Papyrus, the vector brush reacts very sensitively to the slightest press.

I attached a strange picture that I drew on the Note 10.1 via Papyrus, which shows the differences in the line weight.

Since I have too little posts, just search for this to find the App: steadfastinnovation.android.projectpapyrus

The only bad things:

You can't make the lines transparent or more blurred.

You can't change the color of the white background (however this beats the "default" checkerboard background of S-Note)

It only exports as PDF, so for sharing my work, I have to do a screen capture and then upload that to my networks.

Final Thoughts:

As someone who draws stuff for a living, I'd preffer using Photoshop on a Cintiq with many hotkeys for any "fine" work, and use the Note 10.1 as an amazing device for making sketches, storyboards, etc. not expecting it to be precise, but just to be fast and reactive to my press. If Papyrus didn't show me that fine lines can be made on this tablet, I would have waited till a better one came out, but as it works, I can only hope for future updates

And lastly THE MOAR YOU KNOW:

I was able to perfectly use a digitizer pen from my Fujistu Stylistic Laptop/Tablet hybrid on the Galaxy Note 10.1. This will be my main pen for the device from now on since it's bigger. This pen was also designed for a display that uses Wacom's pressure sensitivity, so there may be other pens for such devices that will also work. Interestingly, using the even bigger pen of the Intuos or Cintiq doesn't register on the Fujitsu screen and the Note 10.1 screen.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fishgimp:
nope, it is spot on and doesn't lag for me when writing in S note, handwriting etc.. I was pleasantly surprised since it looked laggy in a lot of videos. did try the original Note in stores and found the stylus lag unbearable. Probably because they weren't running ICS either. It doesn't lag in TV paint unless you use a big brush, but that's similar to how it would on a desktop, just the lag begins at a lower size than a blazing desktop would, of course. eg. at 100 p x in TV paint my airbrush lags slightly, but not enough th at I avoid using it. I'd say useable until 150 px or so, then only bearable for filling in a vignette or something.

Strangely though my motion computing stylus is a little bit off like a, couple of mm. The stock stylus is fine. It uses shorter Wacom pen nibs than the intuos, etc. ones, so you can probably use the standard ones if you cut them a bit. Not sure why they put in the flex nibs by default as the standard tips feel much better on the screen. It comes with 4 flex nibs and 2 standard ones total.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DaEvil1:
You can keep making blanket statements all day, that's your perogative. I have no idea why you're complaining about that. Look at Boogerwooger for a quick review that's informative for me.

Thanks for the review BW!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Jonphinguyen7:
Wow this thread almost turned into a heated argument. Thanks to all the input. I ended up swithching my Infinity for this and it is worth every penny! Papyrus is my favorite so far, will upload in a bit.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Boogerwooger:
Also, I'd recommend the app "Quill" which was originally made for the lenovo devices. Quill's lines end up a bit more smoother than Papyrus, so it depends on how much control you want over the lines. Try it out.. it can also upload your whole group of pages to Evernote. :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] warmonked:
meh. I've noticed on these forums, no one is interested in criticism. They only want to hear things that validate their purchase.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Scotlac:
Absolutely not true. My experience is that people are more than happy to hear criticism. However, most of what gets posted is not constructive and wreaks of biased fanboyism.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Jonphinguyen7:
Quick sketch using s-note.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] 404Science:
I personally wouldn't recommend Papyrus for use. I got burned with it on my Lenovo TPT, the app crashed and I lost my note. Note was corrupted and would continually crash the app. Unless you are constantly exporting to PDF, it's not trustworthy.

Then again, it might crash less often on the GNote. Just saying, it really sucks when it happens (I lost 4 days of work).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cmunho:
It's a beta software. I hope you sent a message to the developer to help him fix and improve the application. I think it's pretty good for beta, but it is frustrating to lose work.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Jonphinguyen7:
+1

Most devs are willing to help if you ask nicely. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Doesn't exist in express version, only in Pro. You set it under Preferences.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fishgimp:
ah,thanks for the tip.:good:

Incidentally, here's a super quick page sample of TV paint beta's capabilities. This app is really complex since it's pretty much the full desktop version on a tablet - so many features packed in here. no idea how they did it but it's amazing. Probably a good idea to read the manual . -. on interface mode 2 the pop out sidebars are really convenient.

Sorry about the crappy image compression, it's sharper in the app of course - but since it's free right now I advise just to try it out yourselves.

http://www.tvpaint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=5918
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Magnesus:
Wait. We are talking about THAT TVPaint? I loved this program - it reminded me of DeluxePaint which I used on Amiga. Great news that its coming to Android! Although it changed to Aura and then to Mirage so I thought it was different TVPaint... Great news. It's also aimed at animation - it may be useful for making graphics on the tablet for my Android games.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fishgimp:
yes!! that tv paint indeed! gosh i had forgotten it was called mirage. it has all the animation functions in it still and even particles etc I believe (haven't had time to play with all the functions but it looks like a direct port of the full desktop version!?) do check it out and post support on their forums so they release a final version! this is a killer android art app, it's a proper tool while all the other apps are just toys. I wish I had found the beta before throwing down money on a bunch of other apps.

AND... best part is - it is smooth as butter on the note 10.1 (within reasonable brush sizes of course but definitely better than all the other apps I tried (LOTS).)

i think you could definitely make graphics for games with this and the note, the main problem with doing work on the note 10.1 is that it's pretty tiny and slower to work on than a desktop setup/not as powerful. might be faster with an external keyboard stuck to the side of it for hotkeys perhaps...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] tetchystar:
Thanks for that image from tvpaint, it's been bumped to the top for me right now for painting apps! It looks like it has a nice handle on opacity and good support for different brushes. Does it use layers as well? Unfortunately for me, I'm in Canada and there's no release date in sight for the note 10.1 here, and nowhere in the states is shipping here. Worse comes to worse, I'll make a trip down during black Friday and try to pick one up.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cmunho:
My only concerns with tvpaint is the UI and the final cost. The desktop version is pretty expensive.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Charbucks:
B&H has great shipping to Canada, I've bought lots of stuff from them. I just got my tracking number yesterday! Hasn't shown up on the Purolator system yet, but I'm hoping my new Note will arrive some time next week.

I'm not allowed to post links yet, but just search for Galaxy Note 10.1 on the bhphotovideo.com homepage.

I pre-ordered a grey one on release day, and then changed my mind and asked them to send me a white one instead. Lucky me - they only have white in stock!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] tetchystar:
Oh my gosh thanks! I've looked at a bunch of other websites and they all say the same thing, no shipping to Canada, so this is sooooo great! Shipping is affordable too. Thanks a bunch, after my next paycheque, the Note 10.1 will be mine!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fishgimp:
you're most welcome!

It has excellent opacity and you can define the pressure curve also to your liking though I was happy with default.

I have the same problem with living in Canada so l picked it up in the States -hopefully they don't jack the Canadian price up, eyeroll.It has a fully- fledged layer system like Ps's but it's quite annoying to access IMHO. Definitely the UI takes some getting used to, but the good thing is that it's very customisable and actually gives a lot of working space because the icons are tiny and it has the hideaway menus that only appear when you hover over the sides.

I hope they add S-Pen/ penabled pen button support though.

Cmunho: the UI is definitely somewhat WTF at first and takes some time to figure out. I promise it's no worse than ZBrush: P Reading the manual with this is advisable because there's just so much packed away into it.

As for cost, I was wondering about that too, but hopefully they'll release a lighter version like Ps Touch (that doesn't suck) :) Fingers crossed!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
You're welcome. I got the beta of TVPaint, but haven't had a chance to try it out. Looks great, from your sample. Folks at the ThinkPad Tablet forum really like it, too.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] EloquentMonsters:
Hi guys,

I'm a production artist. Picked up a Note 10.1 last week (mainly for doing color roughs and sketches). So far I'm really digging this. It's a very responsive tablet and it's nice to have an accurate digitizer(makes a world of difference, so tired of "finger painting").

So far I've mainly been using Sketchbook Pro, TVPaint beta, Quill, Papyrus, and SNote. Currently experimenting with more art apps.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fishgimp:
those are gorgeous, esp the last one! checked out your website, beautiful work. let us know if you find any other good apps!

Ps which apps did you use for the various images?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] AbeOwitz:
Image link in case you can't see it: http://abeowitz.deviantart.com/art/Elizabeth-from-Bioshock-Infinite-321974064

The lines were drawn with a ruler and show positional distortion around the edges of the screen. Likely this is due to the metal LCD frame and other electronics. In regular use, the distortion is unnoticeable, so if you keep drawing in the center, you'll be just fine.

I used to have an Asus EeeSlate (EP121), which had horrible distortion and offsets, so the SSGN is a dream for sketching accuracy. Though not as positionally accurate as my Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet, which uses the N-Trig pen.

The above sketch was done with Sketchbook Pro. Though I'm frustrated with SBP since it has fixed image size, no smudge/blend brush, and chokes on small circles/strokes.

I find the pen quite comfortable, though too short to rest on the bridge between my finger & thumb. Palm rejection works well, if you approach with pen first. (I hated the Lenovo N-Trig pen, as my hand cramps up after a while. Partly due to its loose nib, non-linear pressure and lack of palm rejection.)

Other Pen-Enabled (non Intuos) Wacom pens will technically work here, but the nib/sensor distance is a bit different, giving positional offsets. If Wacom could update their pen detection and tune for other pens, that would be great.

Now if we could get some awesome software to take advantage of this pen... :)

It would be cool if I could install Linux on this machine (instead of Android), then I could use Krita, Gimp and Mypaint. :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] EloquentMonsters:
Some morning noodling.

These were done in Layer Paint. Fantastic app for inking, honestly this one has come the closest so far to inking with a brush(no jaggies either). The interface is nice and clean, I also like that you can set up the volume buttons to be undo/redo. It also outputs to full print resolution (600dpi!) and you can change the document size. I can see this one becoming one of my go to art apps, definitely worth the purchase (around $3).

experiments continue

fishgimp- Thanks! The first 2 images were Sketchbook Pro, the last 2 in TVPaint
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
Wow, impressive sketches. Inspires me to get back into drawing. Amazing to see those were done on this tablet. A sticky thread should be made with everyone's Galaxy Note 10.1 S pen Artwork. I'm sure it'll be a popular thread. Also could add a list in that thread of all the best drawing & s pen apps. S pen dedicated thread of sorts.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] donec:
I also would love to have Gimp and Mypaint on the Note 10.1.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Jonphinguyen7:
Beat Ya to it ;)

Feel free to let me know which apps you find that are not listed.

S-Pen ready Apps XDA Thread! (Art)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toenail_flicker:
Nice work! So, these were done from the GNote 10.1?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DaEvil1:
From my first few hours with the 10.1 my personal preference is Sketchbook Pro. It lacks some of the customizability that I would want, but the pen is very responsive there, and it has a lot of the functions from the desktop app that I've grown used to. I've only tried papyrus outside the apps that came with it though.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fishgimp:
Oh thanks for the tip about volume undo redo, I missed that in the settings!

man the interface of layerpaint is really huge and requires so many clicks to get to functions that it drove me a bit crazy.

here's a couple of test scribbles from tvpaint and layerpaint, totally different feel... I prefer tv paint for the paint feel but that's just me. still trying to figure out how to get a more painter type feeling from tvpaint's brushes, man there's a lot of options...

i think the other problem i have with layerpaint is that the watercolour brush has overly soft edges and feels really 'squishy'.