yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 7h3.4pp12en7ic3:
I don't think he was asking for an eta at all. To me, it sounded like he just wanted to make sure this project was still going to see development, versus focus shifting to the leak based desense build. That's different than feeling entitled to an update.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tuckandroll:
Hit the nail right on the head bc that is exactly what I was wondering.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] baronmxc:
I've got a question. I'm sure I probably overlooked some setting somewhere but I can't play WMA files on this ROM or the supposed leaked ROM. I'm assuming its a ICS thing since those files work on GB. Is there something I am missing? I know I could just convert the files to mp3 but I just wanted to see if there was something I could do before I went that route.

Jester, your ROMs kick ass lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
I think iTunes can convert them into mp3s but if it can't then google it because I bet there is a free tool somewhere.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
I've used Media Monkey in the past to convert files. I haven't used it recently, but was thinking of trying it for the same reason. I think it's an AOSP vs Sense issue, not GB vs ICS, but I'm not completely sure.

Media Monkey may have free and full featured versions.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MicroChip:
That's exactly right. I would like to further add, because I just read spjester's "rant" in the other thread, that I too was baffled that this rom didn't make the android blog headlines the minute it happened, it's already better than the leak, either desensed version of the leak, it's basically the best rom created for the thunderbolt yet and it isn't even finished. I hope there is a next version, and I hate when the "entitled" thunderbolt owners piss off the best rom devs because it only hurts us all. I realize it was mostly the ril that annoyed liquid, protekk, and twisted, but if you look around it was also all the whiny users. Let's stop whining, and show our appreciation for spjester keeping liquid going on the bolt, its really our only aosp choice and I really want to see the next version of it.

MC
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animez:
Yeah, it's stupid that the buggy, battery chugging leak is news, but this amazing rom is ignored.

Sent from my Liquid DeSensed TBolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kdb424:
Actually, with SetCPU I got 18 hours of life out of the leak, that's honestly not bad. But about this ROM, the one I am DYING to switch to. I'm waiting on the next release around the corner right now. I ran Liquids rom with no data for MONTHS, so I was thrilled to see data here. I just am using the leak to hold me over. I can't wait to go back to AOSP, and these guys are amazing.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sundar2012:
I switched between this and the leaked ICS - desensed and have settled on this for now. The only reason I would ever switch back is if I really need to tether 4g to my (wifi only) ipad. Since I have unlimited, I can tether 4g to my hearts content but I know that they do throttle 3g/1x data usage even if you are unlimited.

The reason I chose this over the ICS desense is that its really stable, long battery life and lotta customizations. This is amazing work by the devs considering this was done without any leaks or ruu's remotely close to ICS and also an incredible feat imho given the pre-leak state of ICS development on mecha. I think liquid, jester and twisted are the only ones doing any aosp post -gb work on this device (are there others?).

My only (constructive) criticism would be to leave the /data/ apps like sms backup, dlna server, etc as an optional secondary flash and/or offer a barebones zip. My reason is that I'd rather remove than freeze apps and if the update can be "dirty flashed" i'll have to go through that whole process again. It occurs to me as I write this that one solution would be for me to just selectively flash all partitions except /data (would that work?) However, this is just my personal preference. I will be donating and hope no one take offense at my suggestion.

Also, I only decided to flash out of cm7 this weekend so I might have missed discussion on this and cursory search for "face unlock" within the thread bore no answers so I will ask this here - is there a reason that face unlock was not included? I see that bfc and ffc both work, so face unlock absence was surprising (though my personal feedback on this is that if its an effort to get it going, it should be low priority
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bsdesign0000:
I want to flash this ROM today. Just a few quick questions:

Is 3G/4G & WiFi working on this ROM? Is USB Drive connect working? Does camera work?

I havnt had a chance to go thru all the threads here. Thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sundar2012:
WiFi works. USB drive tested on windows works. Data works and it works both when the 4G radio is enabled and disabled suggesting that 3g works for sure, but its unclear whether or not 4g works because it always shows 1x no matter what the speed or network is. Both front facing and back facing camera works.

Pretty much everything works except the data/network indicator and there is no face unlock. If you read the OP it says that video recording doesn't work, but i havent tested it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mvh11:
What settings are you using to get the 18 hours of battery life? I'm lucky if I can manage eight hours on the leak.

I'm also looking forward to the next liquid release. I played with the most recent one and I liked it, but it just didn't feel polished enough for me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kdb424:
Not the place to talk about this. Refer to http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32916-rom-mecha-ics-leak-desensed/ and continue chat there if you wish. back on the OP's topic of his amazing AOSP ROM please.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tuckandroll:
this is the best ICS rom out there for this phone 4g or not although waiting for the update to the new framework of the leak feels like listening to the final jeopardy music in my brain on infinite loop. lol

Edit: I am available to beta test anything new should you need it...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
What settings r needed to wireless tether

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
Last time I tested my connection I was getting 4g speeds....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] METDeath:
Anyone have the stock launcher?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] armada786:
Stock as in this ROM's stock launcher? That's Nova launcher.

Stock as in ICS stock launcher? Use Trebuchet as it's mostly the same.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tuckandroll:
define 4g speeds...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CyD13:
Speeds that could only be achieved via 4g. >_>
[Thunderbolt Android Development] trter10:
Wlan0, channel 2, routing fix.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DeathGrind:
I was never able to get the 3rd party wifi tether to work. I'll have to try those settings

But the native wireless hotspot worked great for me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ksheth2130:
Extremely happy with not only how snappy this ROM is, but I love the battery life! With Moderate to Heavy use, I get more than a day and half of usage (I do have the extended battery). Hopefully this lasts whenever the update hits. Thanks Jester!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
What device profile

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt

---------- Post added at 06:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:04 PM ----------

How do u disable the on screen buttons

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animez:
System Settings > Interface > Navigation

Sent from my Liquid ICS TBolt

---------- Post added at 11:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:17 PM ----------

Love being back on this rom, and my new wallpaper.

Sent from my Liquid ICS TBolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
why the hell do people keep thinking the AOSP project is abandoned? Liquid been working on something big. If it dont get us in the headlines, then **** this site. We get no recognition
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dostie1:
Well looking at the video xda posted last night they didn't really mention devs when it came to roms. Which I would imagine is more or less cause they don't want to advertise devs considering how many there are throughout all the devices available on here. Don't get me wrong I think your work is great and deserves it. But once they say one dev it would probably put them in the spot light and they more or less want all devs to have a shot and let the people make the choice of "the best rom".

I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter which forum you're on you're gonna get flack from someone and usually it's from someone who doesn't really know anything about being a dev and the work that goes on behind the scenes. And everyone doesn't realize that the roms you make can't please everyone. Hense the reason why you usually have release 2 or more versions. 1 with sense 1 without. Just people come to expect immediate results.

There are a ton of people out there that enjoy and appreciate the work you do. I'm sure!

Anyways! Thanks for all the work you do Liquid and every other person involved.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] zandander:
x1000000000

Sent from the hand of Zeus!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jazi:
XDA features Dev's work on the front page though. I got featured once for some build script for Ubuntu I wrote (HERE: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/bash-script-for-building-cm7-make-script-for-32bit/), and I barely tried on it. Jester and Liquid deserve at least a front page posting.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
If getting data on ICS to work on a device before any leak was released is not enough to make front page, i don't know what the hell is. When all we had to look at was different RIL's and alot of Samsung stuff and Rezound **** in the mix. I think we brought it to life and did well at it. XDA Didnt say a word, Droid-Life didnt say a word, Rootzwiki didnt say a word except for a smart ass comment "It doesn't surprise me that they got data and who is working on this rom", We sent emails to all (Link of Hyrule), And he got ZERO Responses. Liquid has been quiet a few days now and not told me much, so im beleiving hes been working hard to bring us something nice. I still will not announce when or if it will be ready any time soon. But a hint should be enough "If we got data to work on ICS, What the hell makes you think we cant/ or havent already done it on JB"

. Do not bug liquid as he is working around the clock. People who beg is the reason why he quit the first time. Patience is key here. You know good and damn well our sh*t will run better than anything HTC Releases. So please listen, you know no one else is going to get the **** working anytime soon
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DeathGrind:
I remember being very confused that I didn't here about this as "front page news". Still am confused why people haven't taken notice. I mean ics with data on the tb was just dream, I was so excited when I read there was 1x working, let alone it actually being 4g/3g.

I think with the leak coming out just a few days later, it hurt this release for the average person. It almost undermined to effort and time it took to make this Rom. As seen in this very forum, people asking questions about the leak in this thread, I think a lot of people are just uninformed.

This Rom was/is a milestone acheivment for the thunderbolt.

I for one love it. And I agree, you guys should of been major news.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tuckandroll:
HA HA HA... can you give specifics on the speeds achieved bc i was definitely not getting anywhere close to 4g and i live and work in a 4g saturated area.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Rippster:
The only front page news I saw was on droidforums back on Aug 20th

http://www.droidforums.net/index.php?pageid=droid_news&news_page=5

Page one shows kfazz got JB running on the OG. My gut says liquid's big surprise is a JB beta with working data. Let's see what happens...lol:laugh:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sg1dan:
I think it's JB as well. We'll find out soon enough
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DaRkL3AD3R:
That's what I'm talkin' about Jester!

HTC held back on us all this time and who was the first to give THEIR customers ICS with working data? A DEV.

Props to you guys for what you've already done for the community. It's a huge eff you to HTC, in your face you got owned suckas, and it makes me feel damn good :D

Anything you guys do for us after that is icing on the delicious icecream data cake.

You guys rule.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sundar2012:
Would love to see JB with working 4g on the tbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animez:
It is hard to understand how working data on ICS through sheer dev ability gets overlooked, but everyone loses their **** over the Team BAMF turd leak. Heck, even after Jester polished that turd into a good desensed rom, still nothing.

Oh well, I have a feeling they won't be able to ignore the next rom.

Sent from my Liquid ICS TBolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] major_works:
I anticipate flashing no other ROM than this one, and its next iteration, any time soon. I tried the BAMF leak only to be reminded that I don't like Sense. I tried another fellow's take on Jester's version and I couldn't get it to run. Meanwhile, I'll just wait patiently until something good drops from Liquid and Jester.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
+1

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bradg24:
Dude if this the crack we need to bust open Ics with out HTC.. oh my.. I hope its not a fluke ..
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
crackedvenom2 I added you on Gtalk IDK if my PMs are sending XDA is being dumb lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] crackedvenom2:
I dont remember which radio i flashed. It was awhile ago. I have two PG05IMG on my sd card but thats it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Packaged by me: CDMA and LTE radio that you have

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B439HfH-GfY7QVJPa25SRnZ2MXc/edit

MD5sum: c69e5cf0f86b62552e5624a8973edec7
[Thunderbolt Android Development] crackedvenom2:
Are you wanting me to flash this?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
no thats the radio you already have we trying to get it
[Thunderbolt Android Development] crackedvenom2:
Well the info matched. Idk if its all the same. Heres the two radios from my sd

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?8xaaxub644gz485

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?huiin18mhanekm7
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
He's running the 605.9 radios. They are in the first post of the forum you posted jester.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
i know i took those 2 and put them in one file and uploaded, booting now
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
Aight drop me a link and I'll flash them too.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jwort93:
The link is a few posts above you.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Verified radio that got 1x.

Baseband used on this ROM

1.48.00.0101w, 0.01.78.1110w_1

http://d-h.st/hl7

To go back to 605.19 radio

http://d-h.st/Prv
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jwort93:
Awesome! While I am sure it is still to early to tell, do you think it will be possible to get full data with these radios?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
We working on a new build atm. Hopefully this plus the fixes will fix it. Cross your fingers guys

It may be 1x and slow as donky ****. But we got data first god damnit! HOORAH
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
Ok.. I think it's time for me to explain what PFM means. PFM is an acronym for PURE EFFING MAGIC. And it looks like that's what's happening right now. :D

ok, my next question. What's changed between MR2.3 and MR2.5? or is that the radio version?... I'm a little confusored.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jwort93:
The changelog is in the op.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
Sorry, I didn't catch it. I was looking at the top of the list of changes.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ATHORNFAM2:
how do you flash the radios to the phone do you go through hboot or just flash zip at the recovery
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jwort93:
Through hboot.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ATHORNFAM2:
i tried that and it wouldn't take it
[Thunderbolt Android Development] norman1080:
+2
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animez:
+69, 69 dude!

Sent from my Liquid ICS TBolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
People will always be unhappy with whatever they have. Between all the spoiled children and greedy adults its a wonder how we haven't seen a third world war yet. I say keep up the hard work and someone will recognize you guys for it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sithdroid2187:
I agree with this statement, I do like sense, however a vanilla feel is always better. Besides I spent money on apps that give me that sense feel for the most part so I might as well use them. I did however find the default ICS launcher and am using that instead of Nova launcher for the time being.

GREAT JOB TEAM!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] taylormade629:
Well said. Team Liquid puts out

The best roms by far. They deserve all the credit for bringing data to Thunderbolt ICS first. Only thing I used a sense rom for since switching to aosp was to get a GPS. Lock. And it wasn't even needed for this rom.

Keep up the great work.

Sent from my Liquid ICS Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] namurt:
see attached. verizon recently expanded 4g coverage in my area so not very many of the towers are soaked with traffic yet. these speeds are consistent with the speeds i was getting with gb (thundershed 1.5). plenty of other people are achieving 4g speeds as well. the rom is just incorrectly reporting the network speed.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] namurt:
on a different note, is anyone experiencing echo when putting a call on speaker? thus far, every time i've put someone on speaker, the person on the other end is hearing a complete echo of their own voice. i've tested this verizon to verizon, verizon to other networks and verizon to a landline, all with the same result.

i'm wondering if it's a rom bug, or just a bug with my particular setup. i'm using go dialer ex, but once the call connects, the os takes over anyway and the call is handled by the system (ics) phone app.

edit: forgot to mention the echoing occurs whether i make or receive a call.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jrozga:
Goosebumps, thanks for that!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
What is the "default" launcher? Trebuchet? I couldn't find that in the G Play Store. Or do you just uninstall the launcher(s) you're using? What's the advantage of default over Nova or Apex (my current)?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
The default launcher is nova launcher, you could try Apex launcher if you like features but if you want to get as close to stock AOSP as possible you could try Trebuchet just do a Google search and it'll link you right to a thread here on xda for a download one of the last posts has it.

To install Trebuchet just use something like root browser lite and copy the apk to your system/app folder. It doesn't like to be installed anywhere but in the system apps folder.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DeathGrind:
Yes
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sithdroid2187:
I cannot for the life of me remember where I found it, when I do I will post a link. I found a Launcher.apk file that looks just like Nova Launcher but it does not have all the fancy bells and whistles.

edit**

I remembered! http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1587408
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BJex:
I have the same problem. I am going to uninstall dsp manager or beats audio. Whatever it is called. I will let you know if that does the trick. Or you can try and let me know, I think that has something to do with the problem.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CyD13:
Perhaps you should read the thread. It's all there, multiple times over.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tuckandroll:
I'm going to reflash this and see if i get similar data speeds when i had it running last week i was only getting 2 mb down 2 up.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sg1dan:
you don't need to reflash. speedtest.net app will say 2-3 mbps no matter what. it's the other app that gives out the 4g speeds.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] norman1080:
Could you please let me know what radio you are using and if I need to tweak anything? I want to use this rom so bad, but was getting slow speeds in Chicago. Thanks in advance.

[EDIT] I see the two radios in the OP, but I guess my question is, which one is giving the best results? Thanks again!

[EDIT] So I am running .19 radio and here are my results. Not as bad as I thought.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/znomxl9rivdo6im/Screenshot_2012-08-28-16-50-55.png
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tuckandroll:
i was using coverage map by root metrics... same app that you screen shotted.

edit: i have just reflashed from Jesters Jelly blur rom and i will test again soon... how do you do a screenshot on this rom?

Edit2: i figured the screen shot issue out i think
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
Thanks . I'll give it a look. I'm more than happy with Apex. Was just curious about the pure experience.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
Apex is pretty close to pure of you leave all the settings at default. Trebuchet seems to be the smoothest by far though.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
1st of all 1000 posts for a thread with little formal recognition says a lot. So there editors! Shadow, I think you broke 4 figures.

2nd. Is Trebuchet stock Android or another 3rd party?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
Trebuchet is a 3rd party launcher from the CM9+ releases.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WalkerGFX:
Appreciate everything you and liquid has done. Patiently waiting.

I hit up /r/Thunderbolt with your ROMs. Not a whole lot of people go to that spot mostly /r/Android, but those that have looked are impressed and happy. :) (referring to reddit) Being able to post links to this thread there has brought some new life. Thank you again!!!!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] smtom:
Wow -

Loaded this one up this afternoon - all I can say is WOW and thank you good sir.

What a ROM!

Kind regards.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
Yup, I've tried other roms and I just can't drop this one. Even with data not really hitting g blazing fast LTE speeds it still loads pages faster. All it takes is a trip back to gingerbread (more like vinegar bread) to remind me just how well built ICS is. Hopefully some JB lovins will hit this phone at one point. :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] norman1080:
Best. TBolt. Rom. Ever.

Thanks for all your awesome work [SP]Jester and Liquid0624!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sundar2012:
come to think of it, i am quite surprised that this rom never got any mention on the major android sites. Getting data working on an AOSP ICS rom without any leaks to work off of is quite a big deal. With that said, thunderbolt owners and those on these forums definitely recognize the contributions these devs are making to the community. Whats up with the locked thread on rootzwiki and these "kanging" allegations? Isn't everything basically a kang of AOSP?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
The mods over at rootz got pissed at jester because he put ziggy's kernel in one of his Roms and they tried to say that was breaking the gpl because ziggy wasn't posting his work on git. Pretty much anything he has done over there is probably locked now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
Am I the only one amused by the fact that those forums are 100% team BAMF when it comes down to these two roms? That moderator has "joke" written all over his post, especially when he tells you not to PM other moderators and that he will personally cover the case himself. Mmmmm yeah.... Smells suspiciously like someone is playing favorites.