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[HTC One S] DownloaderZ:
Any news on this?
[HTC One S] de_annere:
Only this Post in the Miui-thread, but could be based on the videos in this thread, so....no, no news.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=30745415&postcount=517
[HTC One S] pookipsy:
1S and 1X remind me of nokias C7 and N8.

the diff between the c7 and n8 was so minor that it was wired.

another thing is, both phones started without NFC, but C7 got NFC via software update, while its still the cheaper phone like 1s to 1x.

there is a chance 1s got NFC hidden there but who knows.
[HTC One S] eddiemurphy:
Well, I am talking about the topic so what da fuk do u want??!!!!
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
You reply so long after nice you should get a blue peter badge :thumbup:
[HTC One S] n0j0e:
Speculation, no more, no less!
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
Funny how that guy made videos claiming the 1s has NFC someone noticed it 8hr after it was released on YouTube (very unlikely if its not stated to have NFC why do people YouTube it ? ) then in that 24 hr time frame its posted on xda the guy then reads xda forums and makes. another video in response to somebody on xda so the guy reads xda but does not want to share Its a load of bs don't get your hopes up guys we don't have NFC
[HTC One S] eddiemurphy:
Thanks that makes me feel better:o
[HTC One S] David111jr:
Fist off no disrespect but, I'm the one who found the video originally and asked if it could be true around here. And since my thread diddnt say anything about NFC the guy who posted this op saw my thread and made a new one with a better thread name.

Secondly I was looking it up on YouTube because I just got the phone and wanted to know if it had it. I think NFC is more useful then people think and Im still. Hoping its true.
[HTC One S] Hunt3r.j2:
NFC doesn't exist on the phone. I hate to crush hopes but the sheer amount of self delusion is sad. NFC operates at 13 MHz. This means that it really needs a massive antenna for proper reception and transmission. Almost the area of a battery. Do you see any area that big that is not covered by metal? Metal completely grounds RF transmissions, if you followed the Transformer Prime debacle you would know this.

Anandtech also posted analysis on the iPhone 5 chassis and came to the same conclusion. Like the iPhone 5, the One S simply doesn't have the necessary RF window space to implement NFC.
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Once again......

how do you explain the xperia P then?

It has a metal uni body as well and the plastic part at the top is very tiny and at the bottom, which is even smaller, in fact, smaller than the one s plastic parts.

So surely if what you said is true about pretty much any metal chassis used and NFC not working due to it, then the xperia P wouldn't support NFC, yet it does.......

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_p-4436.php

I am not saying that the S doesn't or does support NFC, however, I am not just going to write it off completely when we still have no idea how he did the other videos, could just be a very well timed tasker but do we know that for a fact? No.

Until someone posts proper hard evidence showing that it isn't possible at all, be it a developer analysing the S hardware and software/drivers saying that it doesn't then it is very possible that the feature is there, it just has been disabled like a lot of other phones and certain features. Likewise for it supporting NFC.

The only thing I will say is why hasn't this guy bothered to post a guide on what he did, where to look etc. or provide a zip package to flash in the recovery. This isn't the first time something similar like this has happened either i.e. my previous samsung spica i5700 had a developer called Gabriel and he got certain stuff ported over to the spica and certain issues fixed yet never posted his work, guides or what to do and only posted blurry videos and screenshots showing it off, he was a bit of a **** though, always looking for praise and slagging of other developers work and making it clear that he thought he was the best developer ever. And the work of his was possible as other developers eventually ported these changes and fixes themselves, just took longer.
[HTC One S] de_annere:
http://www.intomobile.com/reviews/htc-one-s-review-one-you/

Have a look at the latest comment:

He doesn't even mention changing something in the software...my comment there asking him for more information is currently waiting for approval.
[HTC One S] frettfreak:
Sorry to burst your bubble man, but there is no way in hell that the iphone 5 is NOT going to have NFC. there are already features built into IOS 6 to take advantage of this.

Also, wouldnt an FM radio be considered an RF transmission as well thus further squashing your theory.

Not trying to be an ass here, but you are stating all this like you know it for sure, like you work with this stuff, yet most LIKELY this is all from crap that you read online.... just sayin..

i have already said that i seriously doubt we have NFC in here but there is a SLIM chance.
[HTC One S] raikesy:
To be fair, FM radios in phones use a plugged in headset as their antenna...
[HTC One S] ECEXCURSION:
I was just going to say that.

For one, FM radios and NFC operate on entirely different frequencies (different wavelength), requiring different sized antennas. The FM radio in the phone requires the use of a headphone cable as an antenna. In theory, since NFC uses a lower frequency (larger wavelength) than FM, it should require a larger antenna. But, we all know that isn't the case with phones so they designed their antenna another way. And since none of us (thus far) are electrical engineers who specialize in data communications we're just going to have to agree that nobody knows for sure. :p
[HTC One S] Dverez:
Today I took my S4 into the smallest pieces (even the shields above the chips on the motherboard) and I did not found any chip with NXP on it.

I found one chip which was a TriQuint TQM7M5013 (Quad-Band GSM / GPRS / EDGE-Linear Power Amplifier Module) next to the 2 Samsung memory chips and the Qualcomm processor.

I still have hope there might be a NFC chip in the S3 models...
[HTC One S] devgee:
Thanks dverez for proving that we dont have nfc

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[HTC One S] kyuubi_ac:
lol.. now that would be really funny if the S3 has NFC but the S4 not. Pure chaos. ^^ At least it would be a little comprehension for all those poor mates who only got the S3, so: :fingers-crossed:
[HTC One S] de_annere:
If you do it again, please post some pictures! Gadget pr0n ftw!
[HTC One S] Dverez:
First of all I wanted to but I could not find my old camera because lately I used my phone only, secondly I`m newbie on this site and the forum motor would not let me to post any links. I`m not sure If I could upload any picture directly (today I`ve found my old digital camera so I could make pictures).

Mod: I made some pictures now and uploading to my Dropbox.
[HTC One S] frettfreak:
didnt know that! I learned something new!

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AWESOME!! Thanks for ending all this madness!
[HTC One S] frettfreak:
Here are the pics from dverez!!

http://goo.gl/1XrhF
[HTC One S] tritran18518:
No NFC, but i'm more interesting to see our phone's battery is connected by clip( or whatever it's called), not being soldered. Easy to replace when battery dies.:good:
[HTC One S] devgee:
Thanks dverez for the pics

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[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
Thank god this is done with as I said from the start not true. This thread should be locked now
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
The problem is, you and everyone else didn't have any hard evidence to back up that claim, nor did we have any hard evidence to prove that the one S did have NFC apart from 3 videos, of which 2 were very convincing and then given the XL (pretty much the same as the S regarding hardware), other mobiles history with features being disabled, mobiles with aluminium uni-bodies having NFC etc. it was very possible that it could have had NFC.

Now we do have confirmation though.

Thanks for confirming this dverez.
[HTC One S] Tecardo:
The Kernel(s4) actually has a kernel modul.

I have atteched it here
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
What do you do with this ?
[HTC One S] devgee:
You can actually run this module

With insmod!

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[HTC One S] sromer:
Phone Name: HTC One S

Model Number: HTC One X

IMEI:

O_o

Also maybe he's just using the Chrome plugin called "sent to phone"
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
What the hell is the zip what do u do with it ?
[HTC One S] de_annere:
Can you provide some dmesg or kmseg output?
[HTC One S] devgee:
But for that, the nfc chip must be present, otherwise it doesn't work.

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[HTC One S] devgee:
Let me try it out

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[HTC One S] devgee:
From where did you get that module

And i think for running insmod, the Module should be in. Ko format.

Hope so :-$

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[HTC One S] klin1344:
Yeah I found it in the config, but it was disabled by default. I wonder if we actually have NFC but HTC merely disabled it...
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
We don't have NFC !
[HTC One S] Closed Source Project:
What is your proof / source of knowledge. Please don't post if you don't evidence or any knowledge at all about a topic.
[HTC One S] abracadabra11:
It wouldn't be the first time a manufacturer intentionally disabled integrated software within a lower-tier product to reduce its competitive edge to a higher-tier product that they also manufacture.
[HTC One S] Roundtableprez:
Maybe its a possibility that they planned on enabling it with an update in the future?
[HTC One S] usaff22:
Maybe the Jelly Bean update! :D

Jks

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[HTC One S] frettfreak:
The proof is on the Page 9.... There are photos of the phone broken down. From what I can see there is no nfc chip.
[HTC One S] xxquicksh0txx:
From what you can see...

I'm not saying their is or their isn't, but unless a PROFESSIONAL takes apart the phone and tests it their isn't a way to tell if theirs NFC or not.
[HTC One S] dc211:
HAHA only a PROFESSIONAL can tell us there isn't NFC. How about the guys at HTC? They said there isn't a NFC chip, do those guys count?
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
Yes the manufactures of the phone said this but you are having a doubt because of one person on YouTube who is just messing you lot around
[HTC One S] xxquicksh0txx:
HAHA. Have you not read the above comments about other phones that the manufacturer denied their phone having NFC until they released a update that released it?

As I said in my post before, I'm not saying it does or it doesn't. I really don't care, because I don't plan on buying things with my phone. Or opening a app when I walk in my house.

If it does have NFC, cool my phone has another feature I won't be using. If it doesn't, I'm not going to miss it.
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
Even if we do have an NFC chip which I very much doubt .. I doubt think HTC will be activating it. They are going bankrupt soon ;D
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Yeah as I have posted over and over again, it wouldn't be the first time companies have disabled certain features and when asked by people if it has said feature, they lie and deny it completely, yet a few months later, some developer gets the feature enabled and working i.e. my Samsung galaxy spica had multi-touch, FM radio chip and Samsung was asked about these and they denied they existed, few months later a superb developer looks into it and comes across these features and enabled multi-touch (didn't bother with FM radio chip as people weren't bothered by it and rather he spend the time on porting CM7 instead) and same for many other phones.
[HTC One S] xxquicksh0txx:
Their not going bankrupt, they'll make it. :D Hopefully.
[HTC One S] frettfreak:
Bankrupt doesn't mean out of business. Just means they get to start with a clean slate. At least here in the states. Dunno bout their laws over there though. Ask Donald Trump how many corporations he has still running today that went bankrupt....
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
But with their customers service theey will not be going very far no matter how much money they have ... Don't even give us info about jelly bean customers service is the worst and they are very tight about releasing information
[HTC One S] frettfreak:
Seriously? Dude.. They have said they are working on it. The SAME thing EVERY other company has said. Think you are expecting something that doesn't exist.
[HTC One S] Brandonrz:
Bump
[HTC One S] kuroneko007:
As for going bankrupt, HTC are still turning a profit every quarter, so they are nowhere near going bankrupt. Their revenues have decreased, but that doesn't mean they are in half as much trouble as everyone seems to think they are.
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
No they said what phones it will be coming to with no release date. But Samsung will give updates on what's happening all the time
[HTC One S] kyuubi_ac:
Well guys, your current discussion has nothing to do with the question about NFC.. :p
[HTC One S] devgee:
May be i should close the thread, if its going like this!
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
U should we don't have NFC :D
[HTC One S] sumeshd:
Guys nfc has to have a hardware to work..it can't be software implemented..

And if HTC has put a nfc chip inside phone then they aren't stupid that they will hide a feature of their phone or they won't know what they put in there..

I am a one x user and am posting here because this topic and this thread has been posted to elevate which is stupid..
[HTC One S] dc211:
The hold outs aren't going to listen. A few pages back someone fully disassembled a One S and looked over all the microchips only to not find a NFC chip. But people still want to believe that somehow someway they are going to magically get NFC.

I say we sticky this thread so we have something to laugh at.
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
Haha lol thats a good idea
[HTC One S] mjm128:
I posted it lol. Tired of these threads that have no basis. I face palmed when my friend who owns an One S thinks that we have NFC. Maybe if we get an answer from HTC this thread can finally die.
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
After the guy taking the one S apart and not finding the required chip it is pretty obvious that it isn't there and no way around this (unless they decided to go to the trouble and remove the label of the chip as well :p) and the thread should be locked now. No need for it.

Although what I find funny, is that people would actually believe what a business tells them and treat it as if it is 100% the truth.....
[HTC One S] frettfreak:
Bull****. Show me one place where Samsung has openly said when or what is going on with updates other than "we r working on it" there isn't.

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You should. We don't have nfc and the discussion is going no where.
[HTC One S] sausje85:
Could it be that he might build in the chip himself?
[HTC One S] lykos:
I was actually thinking about the possibility of creating a MicroUSB NFC radio. Are there any current products like this being worked on?
[HTC One S] dc211:
I'm not sure what your question is, but I'm certain the answer is NO.
[HTC One S] sausje85:
If you don't understand the Q then you can't answer it. ;)

Anyway, i mean take a chip from another product that has NFC and implement it into his One S.

I don't see why this is not possible, on paper it should be.
[HTC One S] sumeshd:
The question here is that op is stating that there already nfc on one s and the answer is IT IS NOT..

IN BOLD BIG WRITING

NO..

this thread should be closed..

This makes Xda and devs look stupid to world and HTC..

When only op is stupid

Aren't there any mod here??

Why is this thread not closing?
[HTC One S] lykos:
Yes, but he asked a different question. Is it possible to create an adaptor by either soldering a NFC chip to the motherboard or using the USB To Go interface to create an external add-on? My answer is: No to the former and quite possibly to the latter. Usb NFC adaptors are already sold for PCs. It's highly likely these might also work with a UTG android device.
[HTC One S] xxquicksh0txx:
Ok so really, really you're getting out of hand. Don't just go around calling people stupid. He saw a video and wanted to share it with us, I'm not sure why everyone here is so hateful on the idea that we have nfc.

If they want to talk about the idea that we have NFC then let them!

The only reason that this thread should be closed Is by the fact that you guys keep taking it off topic.

Let them talk about it geesh, does it really hurt you to just let them wonder about it?
[HTC One S] devgee:
Some guy getting too childish!
[HTC One S] devgee:
Hey moderator could you close this thread?
[HTC One S] dc211:
I understood it enough to answer it correctly. No it's not really possible to take a NFC chip and add it internally to the One S. You only chance would be to add it via a NFC enabled case.

http://www.nfcworld.com/2012/05/16/315729/devicefidelity-adds-full-nfc-functionality-to-iphone/

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I agree with Quickshot. This thread must go on. :D
[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
Why would you want to do this, this means anyone that wants NFC in their phone has to open it up rip warranty stickers Nd potentially damage their phone what we are talking about is an in built NFC chip we never came up with the idea of soldering one in because it's stupid .... Tty find some space inside the phone to solder it in ....
[HTC One S] xxquicksh0txx:
Is it doing you any harm to let them talk about ideas? Answer: No.

Let them freaking talk and stop calling everybody's ideas stupid.

I wish a mod would come in here and straighten his mess out, either by closing it or telling the no–funs to get out. Seriously, let them talk.
[HTC One S] Brandonrz:
Can you just leave, all you are doing is being rude. I believe there isn't NFC, doesn't mean ill call people stupid and stuff against their OWN oppinion.
[HTC One S] lykos:
Killa, do you remember the last time you came at me without reading my post correctly and in full? Yea, as I said the last time we had this conversation: "Just because you don't have the talent or tools to do something doesn't mean everyone is like that." Not to mention--in my post--I say "I don't think soldering is possible"--excuse the paraphrasing. I mention a USBtoGo mod; USB. I didn't originally mention soldering, someone else did.

Read my f--king post next time.

NOTE: Besides the last bit--which included cursing--I didn't mean anything in a aggressive way. :good:

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Great Link. I'll purchase a UTG adapter and Usb NFC to see if we can have it working that way. If it does I may mod an existing case to incorporate the feature. Sounds like a fun DIY project.
[HTC One S] glaudrem:
Then this thread is no longer "HOS with NFC" but "external NFC" or something like that, and maybe it has to be moved to HOS accesories. anyway I think mods should close this thread for the health of the fourms - people is starting to get irritated about this!
[HTC One S] devgee:
Where is the moderator?
[HTC One S] lykos:
I actually agree with you. This thread has gone on long enough.:good:
[HTC One S] xxquicksh0txx:
And Usb NFC would be completely possibly, Jelly bean has Usb host support. It could even be implemented into ics ROM's with kernel mods. Someone with skills programming drivers and the skills to make the USB stick could do it.
[HTC One S] Fazettit:
I've had real evidence that the HTC One S supports NFC.

unfortunately an UFO with green creatures went by and soldered the chip out :(

I love this thread...keep posting and stay tuned!
[HTC One S] cordobedp:
is real or just a fake? :confused:
[HTC One S] devgee:
So what you guys think, should the thread get closed or still be present

Some say to keep the thread and some say it should be closed!

:banghead:
[HTC One S] glaudrem:
Well I actually think people who wants this thread alive are mostly people having fun about things stated here - IMO the UFO NFC Stealing whas the funniest one. I would suggest HOS was going to have NFC but a noob worker at HTC plant forgot to attach the chips so we don't have NFC :(
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[HTC One S] k1llacanon:
I'm sure u can't advertise on xda?
[HTC One S] n82k:
It's legit I just purchased and already FedEx tracking number for expected arrival Feb 14, 2014. I'm stoked!
[HTC One S] glaudrem:
Is it true that evil soviets took NFC away from HOS? Sorry if n00b question
[HTC One S] myipad96:
why would you wait 2 years to buy a chip bye that time our phone wont even matter and all phones will have nfc
[HTC One S] Brandonrz:
Because it's a joke.
[HTC One S] Kamilr97:
No, it was aliens! ALIENS!!!!! :cyclops:
[HTC One S] voidzero:
So, did anyone take another phone apart yet to have a look?

The camera of my One S is painted blue and i figured heck, if the colour is different maybe so are the chips :silly:

keep on going guys you were all doing fantastic so far! Lemme hear the results! :cowboy:
[HTC One S] MattDN93:
LOL you were the joker on that other forum who claimed to have the official OTA JB on his HTC One S yet you own an Xperia...
[HTC One S] thiasB:
Another video claiming the NFC functionality of the One S has been uploaded to Youtube. Again from the same mysterious ROM bakery.

But, before assuming trickery over and over again, the One S indeed has some kind of wireless detection cababilities. I own the official car dock from HTC and everytime I put the device into the dock it automatically switches to car mode. without any electrical connection with the dock. How is this done? A rudimentary one-way NFC connection or just a simple magnetic switch inside? I'm pretty sure he utilizes this "hidden" piece of hardware.
[HTC One S] de_annere:
Could you try to locate the magnet with another one? Or to read the hidden NFC-tag with another, really NFC enabled phone?
[HTC One S] thiasB:
I tried several times but no response.

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Forget about. I was wrong. It has been found that the car mode is enabled by the USB connector of the 12V adaptor, even without having it plugged in to the power point of the car.

Sorry!
[HTC One S] de_annere:
Do you have a x-ray available? :D The NFC antenna in the car dock should be clearly visible, if there was one.

Edit: Okay, so we can just hope that the youtube guy releases something or admits he faked.
[HTC One S] devgee:
The usb cable has been so modified by HTC that if you connect it with the one series the screen automatically switches!
[HTC One S] thiasB:
Right! And again, sorry for confusing!
[HTC One S] bb2htc:
who cares if our phones do not have NFC; the already available/announced features like WIFI Direct and USB OTG do not even work :|
[HTC One S] Rampage:
Can all be done with custom kernels.

Send from a phone.
[HTC One S] devgee:
Who says that?
[HTC One S] bb2htc:
That's the point. Why do I have to use custom kernels and stuff? why can't hTC provide what ICS already has? (like Samsung does, hell they even went an extra mile and gave OTG in GB for GS2) :mad:
[HTC One S] RazGame:
So... if One S have NFC, i'm very happy)

Not long ago i win competition from Sony Russia. And i win Xperia SmartTags ^_^
[HTC One S] devgee:
You have WiFi direct in the the stock rom and about the OTG thing, htc will include it in the stock jellybean rom

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