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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] espaciosalter20:
Isn't about kernel. I used to have a Motorola defy with 4.1.2 and that rom used 2.3.60 kernel... So Android can work with any Linux kernel, the key is use the proper ramdisk with kernel in order to make it work without problems on different branches.

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] thunderising:
It's the Snapdragon S1 chipset that's helping out. JB has already been adapted for it, so has Android 4.2

Now don't expect Sony to update Xperia E to Android 4.2

There will be an Xperia G replacing E for that most probably.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Pandemic:
We all talk about cm10 and fxp, but we need if Sony, yes official Sony brings JB to 2012 devices and not a custom rom, i read that we get in 2013 JB to our 2012 Xperia's, i have a Xperia P and that device gets also JB, so stop about talking about a custom rom, that and developer work and not official from Sony :/

..:: [P@nD€m!C Quote] ::> Face Your Insanity !i!i!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jtdc:
you may be right, but the Snapdragon S2 in Xperia Arc and the dual core in Xperia U of course better than the S1 in Xperia E and those new "old spec" phones coming out that has ICS out of the box (ie. Tipo, Miro). would there be alot of difference in coding the OS components to maximize the S2 chipset?

as long as there is no revolutionary android feature that cannot be done with apps anymore AND those android versions really require better hardware to drive them, then probably that's the time Arc should retire. :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lee480:
Xperia U specification basically destroys both Arc's and E's. My point. Sony is not going to upgrade Xperia Arc. Sony probably build Xperia E's software from group up, making it smooth there.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jtdc:
yep you're right, i like "Xperia U specification basically destroys both Arc's and E's" :)

i was just lost i thought i was in an Arc thread, but I've got both Arc and U :)

Arc is basically stuck at Gingerbread. i'm curious of how jellybean runs on U :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lee480:
With a dual core ST-E processor, it will probably fly with project butter. And yes, you are not in the Arc thread.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] leeknows:
CM10.1

I would settle for an official Cyanogen Rom At the moment.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rohit3221:
well its mid-dec for 2 days now...when will sony release new information on jelly bean update?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sikolymester:
Sony is probably trying to finish the Sola ICS roll out, as it did not finish yet. There is probably a huge mess in the development department.

Don't get your hopes up.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] theronkinator:
I imagine today or tomorrow as they won't work weekends.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DeepMemory:
Bad news guys no JB for XU and Sola http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/12/1...-from-feb-2013-budget-models-wont-be-updated/ :crying:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kudaj316:
guys an update for sony...so glad xperia p is on the jelly bean list,yesssssss sadly xperia u,sola,miro,tipo will have no jelly bean..

heres the link http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2012/12/17/update-on-sony-software-upgrades-including-uplift-to-jelly-bean-android-4-1-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] theronkinator:
Wow Sony suck, the U and the Go both use the Novathor, , Jellybean was out 5 months after the Xperia U so for a phone to not even have 6 months of OS updates is terrible.

All my old Sony Ericsson phones were great and I was wary about how the split would affect the quality/service. Guess I was right and it's suffered. 11 years of phones but time to move to a different brand I think.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
I guess I do regret buying my Xperia U now... :mad::mad::(:(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] acervenky:
I am very shocked to hear That Sony Has Skipped Xperia Sola And Xperia U From JB Update.

I have lost all my faith in Sony.

Even If I Own A SXP,I Know Many Users Have Bought SXU and SXSola Thinking That They Will Have JB Update.

But Sony,This is a very Wrong Decision.

Even SXGo Has Same Specs,Then Why Not U and Sola :confused:

This Is The Worst Decision From Sony:mad:

And So Late For The Update :mad:

March 2013 ?:silly:

Regards,

acervenky,

XPT
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kudaj316:
but i hope you wont stop developing your roms acervy, coz your our only hope',
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DeepMemory:
Very very dissapointed with the news. The update from the facebook page have given me some hope. No more Sony phones for me I guess :cowboy:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jatinrungta:
Faqing BASTARDS. KILL THEM ALL FEELS LIKE THE WORLD HAS ALREADY ENDED
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
Me too.

I bought my Xperia U for Jellybean.

It has the same specs as the Xperia P and Go.

I guess Sony has the worst support on the planet.

The Xperia J is slower than the Xperia U but is still getting an update...

I know that we will get unofficial Jellybean but what about the times when we tell others that we haven't got Sony's Jellybean. If Sony continues such sh*t support then I guess I will have to boycott them.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] fidfidelis97:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35559981

MY THREADS about JB for ALL XPERIA DEVICES, that is official confirmation from sony
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Creqaw:
So around 4 months till JB will be released for the P, guess it's better than nothing at all.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] iSolaris:
Oh wow here we have the dual core devices far superior than XGo and XE which will not receive JB. I wonder what excuse Sony have up their sleeve this time.

Common sense tells me its because, Xperia Sola and U qualify as "budget" phones to them and development for old budge phones is pointless as they are flooding that segment each day with new models and expect people to buy them instead. Xperia Go is a "active life" or durable type, a rare phone in a rare segment, so giving them the update so that new buys will probably continue next year for people who are interested in that segment.

As for Sony, more than being a disappointed consumer, victim of harsh marketing tactics, I feel the h/w of these devices have been insulted and undermined.

XDA Devs will slap Jelly Bean 4.1/4.2 built by our fine developers who have already started. March '12 :P I think my Sola would be way more advanced and AOSP-ish than what exciting stuff Sony plans to offers. (which we plan to port anyways ;) )

If we can't have the stock, we'l have have to aim for something better than the stock! :D

Heads high, all users, developers and enthusiasts of Xperia U and Sola!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] PLovrin:
very very dissapointed with this... and 4.1 will probably be the last version 2012 xperias will get... never buying sony again... I was really optimistic with 4.1 update but when I saw official announcement I was relly sad.. they left us with bugged ics... We will get (if we will get) JB in my country at the end of 2013, when my contract will be over...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] slackerzz:
This really make no sense, Go and J will get JB, Sola and U won't.

I'm really disappointed
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] srprashant91:
disappointment. I guess I am done playing with androids and owned an android device before my sola too. But I learnt something the hard way, you either buy a nexus device or never buy an android. The older devices just survive only because of support from 3rd party developers like the ones out here at XDA. Hats off to such developers. I am making a switch to WP8 soon. This kind of fragmentation is only going to kill android.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
I have an exam tomorrow and I am reading these Sony ****.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Howlin' Wolf:
Bad News for all SXU user :(

The fact that devices with almost the same specs will receive JB shows me that it's more a economical, marketing-kind-of-thing than it is a technical one...

Sony might want to lead SXU users to buy another device, very sad..

I've been very satisfied with my Xperia U so far, it's a cool device with a fair price.

But i'm not shure if my next phoone's gonna be a sony again :/

I just hope that this won't slow down the development for XU, now devs are even more important to keep our devices up to date :good:

just my two cents...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 47un:
Strange ! ! S,Ion and Acro S getting JB only by April??

Wonder what reason Sony has for disappointing U and sola users as Go is getting it,which is having the same RAM and chipset as that of U and Sola:(

Also, the phones receiving the update,will probably get dumpd when 4.2 arrives..:(

Lame software support...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Irseq:
I am happy that I have bought P now...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MadManMark:
Windows phone doesnt really have a great history for updates..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sikolymester:
I had no hopes of receiving updates for years for my phone (SOLA). Anyone having an eye on the Android scene knows that an average phone gets software support 1 year tops.

But Sony still ows me my ICS update since 2.5 months.

This is what is bothering me.

If you want long lasting software support then take an iPhone or a Nexus, or any Win phone.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] marco1530:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2052446
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] umair42:
This is my first sony mobile and they gave a very bad news!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gigermunit:
I am confused how the xperia go is getting jellybean while the U and Sola aren't but they all have the same specs.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zed011:
It's called making excuses in order to sell new phones
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zakk87:
or old phones whith bad selling...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Hayleyw2:
Jelly bean will not receive official

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2012/12...bean-android-4-1-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DanielNL:
VERY disappointed, Sony. Don't count on my buying Sony again.

Was very happy with the 180 € Xperia U I have for almost two months now, happy to upgrade to ICS and then this bs announcement? SAME specs as P and Go (Novathor) but STILL you just decide to NOT update all same phones??? o_O wtf.

Xperia J even slower than U but J the one getting the update? Hooooly *** ! ? -.-

My old Sony W850i was very good... What is this policy?

I lost much faith in Sony...

Do I also have to regret now buying a Sony smartphone? Come on Sony, show me/us you are worth it.

if you are not,

In some way they did...

Btw. where is "fidfidelis97" thread gone??? o_O A Sony-spy (or at least a xda moderator not owning an XU himself I bet) deleted it??
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SharpnShiny:
1. I said at the start that it is not an accident for phones to be left out of public relations statement.

2. I note that many experienced users said we would all get Jelly Bean and now we are not.

3. I'm really going to give custom ROMs even more attention now.

4. Windows phone is not better, did you not hear about devices launched only a few months ago not getting W8?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rohit3221:
I usually do my "homework" before buying any new gadget. While I was searching for a new smartphone, I came across the Xperia Sola. I found this device quite interesting, but my biggest fear was whether it will be upgraded to future android builds or not. Then one of my friend, who owns an Xperia Neo v, told me that she's running ICS. I was just glad that Sony stepped up and upgraded its 2011 phones to newer versions of android....Expecting the same I gladly purchased Xperia Sola...

But I think that Sony did a BIG mistake taking this decision. 2012 proved to be a great year for Sony smartphone. I am no expert, but according to me one of the biggest reasons why people switched to Sony was because they expected them to support their devices just like they did for the 2011 devices. You can also check out the signature of the person who posted above me. Sony Sales Sky Rocketing. I think I've made my point.

Moreover, this decision of Sony will definitely affect its sales from now onwards, at least I'll do my job of recommending all of my friends NOT to purchase a Sony device.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] fakhrulfaris:
Hey did they watched on youtube on how jellybean works on how novathor u8500 worked on jelly bean? According to my perspective, the prototype is using the same resolution as sola and u....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY0TU4O15yE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I'm wondering why would sony give update to the xperia go and let off colourful-illumination-light on Xperia U and the first full featured floating touch on xperia sola...Sony always give a **** to its customer... :(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] thunderising:
2011 phones lineup on ICS. 2012 phones dual core and still stuck on ICS? wow Sony. Hats off to you.

Sola was a special phone. Floating touch, that sexy design and everything. But but but, Sony sales are sky high so now they are trying to be idiots and make a repeat of X10.

I hope people stop buying Sony phones and let them face such a heavy loss in 2013 and repent for playing around with their customers.

Sola. My first and last Sony device.

I can't move to iOS. **** costly and **** closed.

I can't move to WP8. That UI will bore me in 1 week. And then I'll be stuck with it for good. No customization again.

I will buy a Nexus and move on.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 47un:
Absolutely useless reasoning by Sony as to why U,sola users didnt receive the update..

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/12/1...s-to-jelly-bean-update-criticisms/#more-11413
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] RyomaEchizen:
So sad. When i saw that video for first time i really bealive that we are going to receive JB on Xperia U

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MUHAMMAD KHALIL:
Sony was the worst caring for its customers!!!!!the xperia sola and u cannot get the jb update while XGO CAN.Sony did you realise that u have make our hearts broken and you make us disappointed with you!!!!This is my last device from sony!!!!I I will NEVER forget u sony!!!!!

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2012/12...martphones/?replytocom=8069#comment-container
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sikolymester:
It is better in terms of updates. It has the same updating scheme as the desktop PC-s. If you buy a win XP then you get updates and fixes for years. The hardware does not matter, as Microsoft is responsible for the update. Windows desktop support lasts 10 years. But you eventually never will get win vista or 7 or 8, unless you pay for it.

Now, if you have a windows phone with winmobile 7, then you will receive updates for it for a couple of years, but you'll never get winmobile 8.

If there is a critical bug in winmobile 7, then you can be sure that you'll get a fix for that, as Microsoft is responsible for that and not your hardware manufacturer. In Android world, if it turns out that Android 2.3.7 has a huge flaw, then you are screwed, if your phone lost it's update support from the manufacturer.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mirost1:
It would be better if sony said the truth - we are not interested in making jelly bean for u and sola, or at least to admit they cant port it and ask devs to do it.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] vikirules26:
Hey guys lets force sony to release Beta builds for U,Sola,Miro and Tipo ...so that FXP could work on it lets message the guys on twitter on facebook
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jatinrungta:
Go ahead
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zakk87:
I did it. Let's spam @sony mobile fanpage...

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] josie87:
can you provide a link? I want to participate.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Lvw2000:
Guys, correct me if I'm wrong but... The P and Go will get JB. Sony will release the sources of the JB build as they always do. The only difference between U/Sola and P is screen resolution and camera.

Doesn't that mean it will probably be faily doable to port the Xperia P (or Go) JB build to U and Sola? At least the P/Go sources should really help FXP for CM10 on U and Sola.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sikolymester:
Well sure, the only question is if developers are willing to do this. Let's face it, it is not even sure if FXP will ever reach stable state.

Devs are mostly those people who own a phone and are not completely happy about its performance, or lack of updates.

Some very good skills are required to work on a codebase such as the Android's.

So we got a advanced linux software developer who owns a Xperia Sola, who got anoyed that he won't get JB update. What will he do?

Work a lot of weekends on porting the code from Xperia P to Xperia Sola, or just work overtime at his job for 15-40€/ hour and buy the latest android phone in no time?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SharpnShiny:
One more thing, you know what I find really ironic? Sony said that the Sola (and others) would not get Jelly Bean 'because the user experience would not be as good as we'd like' yet, what is the main purpose of JB? Project Butter...making things smooth and efficient...does that mean Sony is just lazy? You update to JB to bring a better user experience...:confused:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ashwinvalento:
Sony gives the jelly bean schedule !!

The first phones to get the Jelly Bean update are Xperia T, TX and V. The roll out will start in February and should be completed by the end of March.

The next trio to get the Jelly Bean treatment is the Xperia P, J and go. Sony will start seeding the updates for those at the end of March.

The last four phones to get Android Jelly Bean are Xperia S, SL, ion and acro S. The rollout for them will begin a few weeks after the second batch of phones get the Jelly Bean treatment, presumably sometime in late April.

This means Xperia arc S, U, sola, miro and tipo are out of the loop and will be stuck on ICS forever, at least as far as official updates are concerned
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] bed-boy11:
We know that. Read posts above you.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gtargui:
Are there any stable 4.1 roms for XU out?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MUHAMMAD KHALIL:
The are no any 4.1 jb rom yet.

Sent from my Ultimate Sola
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] _Tomski_:
It's a shame the Xperia U won't be receiving an official JB update. Was thinking about buying one from Virgin as I have a £70 discount to use.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] elia222:
The samsung galaxy s advance (it has a novathor u8500 cpu as our xperias) will get jelly bean in january, maybe it will help to get the files to build cm10 :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
That is sh1t
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MUHAMMAD KHALIL:
Sony mobile have make my heart broken as its stupid answers "user experience" I feel like stupid because own a sola.im eagerly waiting officials jb update but the end like this.I have spent my money on this device as I trust it will not disappoint me but the end it were very disappoint me!!!

Sent from my Ultimate Sola
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zakk87:
You can post here http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2012/12...bean-android-4-1-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MUHAMMAD KHALIL:
I have post it:)

Sent from my Ultimate Sola
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] RyomaEchizen:
No more excuses in RAM, Resolution or CPU

Don't Lie Sony :mad:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MadManMark:
Lmfao, heartbroken? Dude it's a phone
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] irontech:
never ending topic.. after ICS, JB, user will asking for Android 5 on their Sola/U/Tipo :eek:

what if, Sony released JB on Sola/U/Tipo with lag/poor performance?? (there will be another never ending story/complain..) :confused:

I'm more on practical, I don't need any fancy UI but eating up more hardware battery resource, I don't see any bad on the 6.0.B.3.184 & 6.1.1.B.1.54, both pretty good on my Sola. Yet, they've made their promise upgradable to v4.0.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kudaj316:
youre totally right dude...humans always crave for something that never ends, satisfaction is more than words for humans, we bought there product thats it, why do we keep *****ing about it...even if they upgraded all to jb, then what if it has plenty of bugs more than ics?i doubt nobody will stop *****ing again about the crappy software upgrade...guyz, whats the use of XDA?thats why there here isnt it?so lets just be contented of what we have, and wait for something that'll come to us...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] moiz615:
This is pathetic, Xperia U can work out on JB easily
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] josie87:
Please, everybody sign this:

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/jellybean-update-for-xperia-u-and-xperia-sola.html
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nightcrawlerbr:
Even on GB most Sony phones would kick some ICS phones butts. Sony is about integration between hardware and software. If you want updates, buy a Nexus and stop complaining. Don't your phone works? All of it? Are there significant bugs? If not just use your phone or wait for development on it. Talking bs about the carrier or the maker is useless . You made a conscious decision buying it. I knew for a fact that P would get updated before buying it. If not so I would save some money and buy S instead.

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] charlie878:
Sad story about Xperia U/Sola born in Q2 of 2012 & dead in Q3 of the same year. Sony fail
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Vilo76:
When I see the overall bad quality of Sony's stock ICS ROM (bugs + very laggy), I can affirm that Sony's not releasing stock JB is not an issue.

What

is

actually an issue is Sony not providing the community with the necessary blobs / sources to develop alternative ROMs.

This fact is a non sense.

When a phone is internally supported by Sony, it is somehow normal that sources/blobs remain secret so that Sony keeps the control over upgrade process.

But as soon as a particular phone is put away from official support, what is the point keeping the sources/blobs secret ?

The thing that could bring us some hope is that the U8xxx SoC is more and more used, S3 Mini and Ace 2 among others.

Porting from these devices could be our only hope.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] supreme kyo:
I don't think that a petition will change some business decisions.

Sony Mobile commited to support devices for 18 months. Oldest devices are 10 month oldest in the worst case.

The only way to get updates for u, sola and others is just one:

- All together we get a lawyer and sue Sony Mobile for breaching the contract!

Just my 2 Cents...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MadManMark:
Sony will continue supporting you, they will give you ics updates, so they aren't really breaching anything my friend. You have to come to terms with your phone being on ics I'm afraid. I feel your disappointment however
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] loren82:
Sony has no possible excuse, the Xperia Xperia U and J are very similar, they excuse that some terminals, with its low resolution, can move well, its painful optimized launcher, but the resolution Mimsa J is the U, so I was not worth their explanations.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jsel:
What contract? Have you signed a contract that says you will get the newest android versions when you bought your phone? Since I haven't, I have no contract with Sony, I only have contract with my carrier, and it says nothing about software upgrade for my phone.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] razorblade85:
so there's no hope at all?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] RyomaEchizen:
The only hope to get JB is a port ROM or custom ROM

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] DanielNL:
afaik manufacturers like Sony have contract/obligation to keep Android updated for at least xx months (I do not know the exact number but more than 6 months for sure). LUCKILY there is that law... :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Rosie-Posie:
It's actually 18 months, but they are not obligated to do it, it's just what google encourages companies to do. They kinda promised it, but there's no contract afaik.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] myzar:
It's a commercial decision, bad sony bad , my next phone will be a samsung
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jsel:
Lol, you think Samsung is any better providing updates?