yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
They have their favorites over there for sure. They made that obvious when they started all the bs with jester.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] major_works:
Anyone know if the OP is on Twitter? And if so, is his feed very active?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
Yes they do, but they can have their favorites. I've seen the birth and death of various forums because of things like that. What will end up happening is rumor will continue to spread and users to will migrate here for these releases. Reputation, updates, & consistency control the software world not favorites.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DaRkL3AD3R:
All the drama surrounding different forums and android development does nothing but hurt the very goal all these great people have; making kickass content for the Android platform.

It's a shame that all the great minds aren't under one roof (XDA) and can all work in peace. Damn shame.

Just gotta toss this in there, again, THIS ROM FREAKING ROCKS! It blows my mind every time I turn on my phones screen and interact with it. I can't believe it's a Thunderbolt in my hands :P
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gammaxgoblin:
Well said and agree, but it's not most people's fault as the process of enculturation in our consumerist society occurs rather unknowingly. It's the few who gain perspective and choose to rework their world view, that gain freedom from it.

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Droidforums lol.....ghost town, at least in the forums I've been in.

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I think the person you are referring to is an admin, not just a moderator. Yea he never seems to miss a chance to dig at teamliquid. I got banned for a week over there because I refused to accept that there were certain topics that were off limits. Basically I was told this is not a free speech environment and we can control what is said lol. Anyway, thems the rules!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
Yup, he's an admin. That's pretty sad to see. I've never banned someone for speaking their mind. I have banned people for being disrespectful of others. (it had to be a blatant insult though). Funny part is that I was considered the mean one out of all the admins.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] namurt:
For anyone wondering, the MIUI camera (I have V17 test 1.) works on this ROM. Only minor glitch is that when I first open the app I just see a black screen and have to toggle back and forth between the ffc and regular camera. After the toggle, everything is fine!

Was gonna attach the apk but I don't know how to do that with tapatalk, hah.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
You can't attach files to the thread. Shoot me a pm and I can upload it to my box account.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] namurt:
Here it is, up on my dropbox.

http://db.tt/HXcaET72
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CyD13:
It's not a free speech environment, and it never was nor was supposed to be. When you sign up for any forum, you give up those rights.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gammaxgoblin:
I understand that, what vexes me is the inability of people to debate the philosophy of a topic without letting emotions come into play. I like to debate, and when is over semantics, the only conclusion I can accept is for those in power to say, while I can appreciate your interpretation, we have chosen to use a different interpretation as our policy. They terms, product, donation, payment, service, open source, business, solicitation have multiple interpretations in regards to varied applications of those terms. Any way, please don't construe this response as an invitation to discuss these topics, it cannot end well lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gruiz1122:
Anyone know if Jester is ok? MS and LA are getting hit pretty hard by Issac right now and I know he mentioned he was in MS, I just don't know where. If anyone has any contact with him, let him know we're here for him if he needs help. Its the least we can do for what he's done for us.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Im fine bro thanks for asking. Not even raining here yet since it changed course so much.

It is coming tho. Just not here yet lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
He made a few posts in the Desensed thread earlier today.....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gruiz1122:
Ok cool man, just wondering...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JagXK8:
New radio leak?

Posted on rootz, anyone try the new radio yet?

Anyone feeling froggy to try it?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dvgb173:
New radio?

Nvm. Found it. Downloading.

Doug B.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gruiz1122:
Downloading now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] donnyp1:
Can u post a mirror? Link pulled
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gruiz1122:
Not flashing it until an MD5 and screenshots of the new radio basebands are provided. I'm not gonna **** around with some shady radio that some dude said "Works great! Flash it"
[Thunderbolt Android Development] quickdraw86:
exactly, especially when that guy has 20 posts total and i'm in TB forums all the time and have never seen him before.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gruiz1122:
Ok so I opened up the .zip and found 2 files with an extension of .nb which none of the 4 other PG05 zips contain. I do not know what these files are for and I don't want to risk bricking my phone, AGAIN, due to a bad radio flash. I'll upload the zip to my dropbox so someone with better skills than I can pick it apart to determine if in fact it is a new set of radios. Just gimme a minute to upload to mediafire.

MD5: 64565f87ada8f85a8686c043301ecfa0

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?ri3a69sag9ic5aa
[Thunderbolt Android Development] quickdraw86:
someone reupped a dropbox link to the radios in the thread at rootz if anyone is curious/daring.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gruiz1122:
LOL! This is what we get for being careful...

From the horse's mouth - "sorry i didn't get a MD5 as fast as everyone wanted, I have new twins, and a quite a few other projects, you can't even GIVE s*** away without people crying.

I'll remember this next time i leak."

Seriously dude? What do you expect?!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] quickdraw86:
yeah, i said what i did in that thread and am done with it. apparently, the radios are legitimate and working well.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
I just flashed them and they are working.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bradg24:
How different is it from .19 radios?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
Seems to be a little more stable connection. I cut in and out of 3g and 4g at my house and its holding steady on 4g.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gruiz1122:
Good to go...

Attached are pictures of the new baseband and two screenshots of the fastest speeds I was able to attain with these radios. Curiously, the Rootmetrics test is reporting faster speeds than the .9 and .19 radios. WiFi and BT work and there haven't been any hiccups with signal. The signal is actually stronger with these radios.

Overall, I think they're better than the GB radios. Go figure right? :p
[Thunderbolt Android Development] donnyp1:
I just reinstalled this now, right after installing radios while running desensed leak. This rom is flat out smokin. Data seems strong and fast, and i am using the new radios. I thought desensed was fast, man this thing smokes.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Panzer87:
Here's a link to rootzwiki where the leak radio is. I'm running the radio and I'm not having any issues with it.

http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/33261-[LEAK]-[RADIOS]-7.00.605.2-ICS-RADIOS

Sent from my Thunderbolt using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[Thunderbolt Android Development] donnyp1:
Lol, thanks dude. Stated in the post above yours i got it installed
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Panzer87:
Haha, I didn't see your last post before I posted the link.

Sent from my Thunderbolt using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
People over there were complaining about random reboots with this rom and those radios. Anyone else having those issues?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] aquasdragon:
None so far....seems to be working great!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rrrrrrredbelly:
Same here, no problems after 30 minutes of use, down/up speeds of 17/11 just now, which was consistent of previous radio
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Mysticdroid:
I was on the ICS leak for a couple of days, but decided to switch to this when I got tired of the battery life issues. I'm really happy with it. I spend 90% of my time on wifi so data speeds aren't an issue.

I had some pretty bad issues I worked through them and it runs like butter.

The only thing I haven't been able to solve is getting swiftkey working. It always crashes and I've tried reinstalling a couple of times and no dice. Thankfully the stock ICS keyboard works fairly well.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] zandander:
SwiftKey did that too me once too. Just went and reset permissions and it solved my problem. Hopefully it'll work for you too :)

Sent from the hand of Zeus!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JaymzTA:
Only 2 problems I've run into are Netflix not showing video, and not being able to send mms. Neither of those are a big deal at all. Hopefully they get fixed in the next update, but this from is amazing regardless! Found my new dd with this one :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animez:
Yeah, the ICS radios do seem to have a stronger signal and faster speeds for me as well;

Edit - Is there a setting somewhere in this rom to get the capacitive buttons to light up or does that not work. I'd rather keep the ICS nav buttons off. I can find the right button without them lit of course, just wondering.

Sent from my Liquid ICS TBolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animez:
I did just get a reboot with the new radio. Was just browsing a folder and *bloop*. I was on wifi when it happened.

Edit - Just got my second reboot, one more and it's back to the .19 radios.

Sent from my Liquid ICS TBolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
Mines working fine on the new radio. No random reboots or crashes.

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JagXK8:
I've had two reboots this morning. When I exited out of waze and while using friendcaster
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
Maybe a bad download?

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
I have the right to remain silent.

Anything I say (write) can and more often than not will be used against me.

I hvae the right to a moderator. If I cannot afford a moderator, one will be appointed for me.

I understand these rights.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ksheth2130:
I'm noticing a lot of you are trying the new radio with successful outcomes. Quick question, since you are getting faster data speeds and such, has battery taken a hit or is it staying constant?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
Are you using the free or paid version of Swiftkey?

Are you on version 3?

I've read in a few different threads and forums that folks have had problems with Swiftkey with different roms. I was also one of the beta testers for Swiftkey 3 and in that forum people mentioned problems with different roms.

I have the paid version of SK3, which I updated from the beta version and I haven't had any problems. As a matter of fact I've been very happy with the latest release. I was kind of luke warm on it until they worked out the last set of bugs.

You might want to uninstall it, wipe dalvik - cache, reboot, reinstall, fix permissions, reboot and see if that helps.

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Settings

Shortcuts

Interface

Navigation

Uncheck Enable Navbar

Reboot

That gets rid of the back, home, menu on the bottom.

for capacitve buttons:

Settings

Device

Display

Automatic backlight

Check: Use custom

Edit other levels...

Tweak away.

There are some good tutorials and threads around about what to with Lligh sensor levels.

I'll see if i can find a link, but you can search XDA or Google for Android tweak light sensor levels, or something like that. It's pretty cool.

Just remember to create a nondroid before you start messing with it and once you're in it, hit Save & apply for your settings to take affect.

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Update.

I'm running the kernel that came with this rom. Apex launcher with stock themes and fonts. .19 radio.

I think there was a theory at one point that it was a radio issue, but someone else posted the same problem on .9

And the problem is also happening with my exchange accounts, so I don't think it's just a gmail problem.

I've noticed that when I click an email notification in the notification bar, I get an option of opening Gmail or Google mail. It makes me think two conflicting apps are installed.

If I go into ROM Toolbox light, under Auto Start Manager, there's an entry for

Email

Exchange services (I have two exchange accounts)

Several entries for Google Services Framework

2 for messaging

2 for YouTube

2 for Google Partner Setup

2 for AdAway

and at one point 2 for Gmail.

Somewhere else, I forgot where, I had two gmail entries also.

I've since uninstalled and/or disabled Gmail everywhere I could find it. I'm going to try to start from scratch to see if reinstalling it solves the blank mail bug.

My guess is, if clearing dalvik, force stops, clearing cache, fixing permissions, rebooting etc... temporarily fixes it, but it keeps coming back, something's conflicting with something else.

My questions are:

does anyone know anything about the multiple entries listed above

Does anyone have any other theories about why the contents of email disapear?

Other than that, this rom is really amazing. It's like having a new phone. Great job guys!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animez:
I knew about the navigation buttons, thanks for pointing me to the capacative lighting. :good:

Edit - Okay, I'm at a loss as to what to change here to enable lighting for the capacitive buttons. :confused:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
The column on the far right is for the capacitive buttons. I set mine at 60.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
Did you check Custom just below Light Levels?

Are you in a black hole? It showing your ambient light as a negative number and your screen is turned off.

In a flourescent lit office I'm showing 320/320 for filtered/raw.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
What does that do. I always thought it dimmed ur soft buttons on the bottom of your phone but when I tried that it seemed not to do anything with the soft buttons

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
you missed a setting somewhere. Look back one or two posts.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Gary G:
Sorry for the newb question but how do I actually go about installing this new radio.

I have rooted and flashed a bunch but have never changed the radio.

I'm just a little tentative.

Thanks

BTW GREAT ROM Thanks Jester!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] trapperjohn:
Hi,

Rename the file to: PG05IMG.zip then put it in the root directory of your sdcard then boot into recovery clear dalvik cache then boot into hboot through recovery, in hboot when the menu comes up press power button once then after it does its checking it will give a choice press up volume for yes and let it install when it is done it will tell you to press power to reboot.

Let it fully boot up alot of people jump the gun here and then have a lot of issues when it starts booting up give it at least 7 minutes. When I do this I do not see alot of the problems out there.

Thanks,

Bryan
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Gary G:
How do I hboot?

I see reboot system now on the main menu and in advanced (which is where I wiped dalvik Cache) it says reboot recovery.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
you shut off ur phone and hold sleep button and volume down at the same time
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tuckandroll:
just installed the new radio and i have seen improvements as well

old radio:

New Radio:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] trapperjohn:
Hi,

Choose reboot recovery then follow the plan I laid out..

Thanks,

Bryan
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Panzer87:
When the phone is off, hold down power + volume down button. It should then boot into hboot. If you renamed radio zip correctly, it will load after a few seconds. Then hit volume up button to install update.

Sent from my Thunderbolt using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Gary G:
I renamed the file correctly and put it in the root folder

I cleared dalvik cache

I chose reboot recovery as you said in your second post. (Should I pull the battery to turn the phone off after that?) because I am not getting any different menus. I am seeing an update file though should I install that zip file?

It has gone through an optimization process of the apps installed.

What is the new radio version no anyway?

Again sorry for the newb question and posting all this here.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] heath2805:
No one really knows what the new radio does since it was leaked without any info. Atleast I don't lol I suppose it's for the ics OS. Not really sure what changes were made compared to the last .19 gb radio.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sundar2012:
I'm having two bugs on this rom, not enough to break its worthiness as a daily driver but definitely a hassle. Does anyone know a solution for either of the below issues?

Turning off wifi or moving out of wifi range sometimes creates a situation where the radio doesn't resolve a connection - it shows a signal but stays gray and data doesn't work. A reboot or cycling into and out of airplane mode usually results in the cell radio resolving the data connection again.

Sometimes when I open up an email in gmail or stock email (exchange) - the message doesn't show up or will show up for a second and then show up completely blank. Just the message area, not the headers or attachments. Its quite strange (and i'm using the stock font). Only a reboot seems to resolve this.

Any suggestions on how to fix this or any tests I can do to further determine the issue?

Hope you guys in the south stay dry!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Skyllos:
You have to flash it through hboot not recovery.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] major_works:
I've had bug No. 1 in your list all along, no matter which radios I flash. Same thing here, turning airplane mode on and off gets it to reconnect.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Rippster:
If your recovery doesn't give you the option to to reboot into HBOOT, then you have to turn off the phone. Then, hold down the power button AND the volume down toggle until the HBOOT screen appears. It will be a white background with a lot of colored text. Then, don't do anything. HBOOT will automatically see your file on the root of your SDCard and then ask you if you want to install it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Gary G:
hmm it didnt ask

I think I figured out the problem.. I put the file in a folder named root.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WalkerGFX:
You should see two things it wants to update unless the radio files for cdma and lte are seperate. One for md something and the other one has like v2 in it. Hope this helps. You should be on a screen that's white with a android guy at the way bottom when you go to flash it.

Edit: To wipe you need to do that in recovery.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Gary G:
Its flashing now. Thanks for the Help and again

JESTER and LIQUID are the da MEN
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
I've had the same issues and used the same resolution for the wifi/cell radio switch. Annoying but relatively quick.

As for the email bug, you'll notice a few posts back I've reported it and a variety of attempts at fixing it, all to no avail. I also checked Help In Google/Gmail, but found nothing. A Google search of "email content disapears ics" revealed the same problem with other HTC and Samsug phones, but I could not find any thread or forum that posted a resolution. And in some cases it was stock GB or ICS, so it's not specific to this ROM.

I'm wondering now if it's an html rendering issue, but I don't know how to go about tracking that down.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
Reboot to boot loader and not the root folder the root of ur SD card (not in any folder but still in your SD card)

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt

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I am on jester's liquid ICS and I was running the .19 radio before and flashed the ICS radio earlier today and I feel like I'm getting way better data speeds and way less data drops. I've only had one data drop today and I've been using my phone all day.

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animez:
Seems the ambient light level only reports properly in that dialog if you use auto brightness, which I do not. But enabling the custom setting has turned the light on under the buttons and they seem to be lighting up at the same level as the screen (which I typically keep at about 25%).

Thanks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ohiog:
I hope they pull this out of beta before the go to Jelly Bean. I would be nice to have a stable ICS rom while they work out the kinks with JB
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
Had a couple of reboots with the new radio. It seems to not like the default Web browser on this rom. Other than that, its running great.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
Been using it the whole day and nothing wrong way better and a lot less data drops

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
Yeah, I can't really explain it. It runs great but randomly reboots its not a no reason reboot either. I'm usually doing something that triggers it. So I know that it can be replicated. Another thing is that I have noticed is that it does a soft reboot.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DeathGrind:
Well I swap between this Rom and skyraider. I can tell you that using the new leaked radios that I get random reboots on skyraider also.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sundar2012:
Why is it that the same device with the same rom and the same radio would cause reboots for some but not others? Why do the reboots happen?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animez:
I kept get reboots on the new radio with this rom. One while browsing a folder, one while in settings and one while listening to a podcast (that had already been downloaded) and not messing with the phone at all. Three random reboots in about 2.5hr was enough, I'm back on the .19 radios.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
Funny part is that I haven't had any since those last two. I suppose now we know what's holding ICS up.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tuckandroll:
Been using the new radios all day seems faster no reboots. no problems here. maybe try reflashing?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animez:
No kidding, if Verizon dropped another reboot-centric update on the TBolt that would be very douchtastic. That why I was so quick to switch back to the old radio, when the TBolt originally had the rebooting issues it drove me nuts.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
I doubt the leaked radio we have is going to be the final version. Just like I doubt the official ics version is going to be as crappy as the leak.