yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cautery:
Aroma Choices et al noob questions...

Been reading/studying for 3 days to pick a ROM, flashed the stock rooted leak 3 to test, now am ready to go with CR5.0. Sorry for the noob questions, but I haven't flashed a phone ROM in almost 2 years... Brand new set of VZW S3's for the wife and I.

A. General Installation:

1) "Clean" Install: When I installed the Leak #3 rooted stock ROM, following the instructions as best I know how as of now, I thought I was going to be wiping the device clean, but the /sdcard/ was essentially untouched, and all my apps came through (except EZ-recovery). I'm assuming because my lack of file system setup knowledge prevented me from wiping/formatting everything necessary to get a "true" device wipe and reinstall. Eventually, I hope to know all the ins and outs, but right now, I just need to get the Radio, RPM, and ROM installed as close to the "final" for the base backup as possible. I can/will learn the rest as I go along.

2) Flashing order: I ONLY flashed the Leak #3 ROM... When I go forward to CR5, what order should I flash in? Should I go ahead and flash the base band and RPM now to make sure they are good to go? And then do the CR5 a little later? Or flash them all in order from the same Recovery Session?

B. Aroma Install:

I'd like some help suggestions on making the Aroma installer choices. Feel free to comment on my choices and/or answer my questions/clear up my indecision.

1) Launcher: Thinking I will go with the TW 5x6 unless there is some compelling reason to use one of the others. I can always move to a different one if I get bored later.

2) File Manager: I use ES File Manager now as a Play installed app... Does Aroma make it a system installed app? Is there any compelling reason to make the File Manager a system app? Should I not just choose none here and install the app from Play?

3) Google Apps: Any reason NOT to choose all these apps in Aroma? Play Store, GMail, Google Now / Search, Maps and Streets, Talk, Voice, Play Music

4) Samsung Apps: Are there ANY of these apps that MUST be installed via Aroma? Apps that MUST be system apps? I KNOW that I don't want/need Media Hub, Mobile Print, S Suggest, S Cloud. Don't think I will ever use All Share. Might keep Kies, S Memo, S Voice. Is Pop-up Browser worth looking at? (All Share, Kies, Media Hub, Mobile Print, S Memo, S Suggest, S Voice, Cloud, Pop Up Browser)

5) Misc Apps: Any required as system apps to get them? after looking through all of these, pretty sure I want all of them BUT Yahoo Widgets... Comments?

Thanks for the patience... Just trying to reduce the number of Rom flashing iterations required to get my final "Fresh Install Nandroid" backup finalized before I begin customization, et al. playing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tu3218:
2. Flash Radio, RPM, and ROM. You can do all that in the same sessions. Make sure you wipe data before hand and make a nandroid.

B1. You can use 5x6, but some of the widgets can be screwed up due to the size. I always installed the stock size and then if you feel the need for larger one, there are files around here to flash the larger size. In fact, they're 4x5 sized TW launchers that may fit your needs even better. Nova and Apex you can install from play store so I never worry about flashing them. I guess if you wanted to remove as much as possible and knew for sure which one you're going to use, then you can pick one. But I shift back an forth sometimes.

B2. Yea, they are installed as system apps. I never install these as I think there are better ones in the play store (solid explorer)

B3. Go for it. They will be installed system apps but you can skip all of them and install them in play store as well.

B4. Only one I keep is S-voice and thats for voice commands( say "snooze" to snooze alarm clock, say "shoot" to take a picture without touching phone. The rest of them I neverrr use. Just extra unneeded bloat imo.

B5. I can't remember specifically what they are but even though they are system apps, you can still go back after flashing and delete them if you don't need/want them.

Have fun.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] devilchrist:
Does this version fix the Google Now with Bluetooth headset?

Does this version fix the home button bug? (when home button is pressed right after screen goes to sleep, before phone locks, instead of just turning on the screen, it goes to home screen?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] t0adman:
I LOVE this ROM and I've donated...just to set the tone here. Since I'm being a whiny little beotch, I might as well mention that the Swype keyboard with the latest version (and the last couple) has been laggy a lot. Very slow to respond and wonky. Anyone else? I think I'll switch up keyboards and see if that helps. /whiny beotch
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] pettigrew95:
I see a lot of people with WiFi tether issues...does the stock Verizon WiFi Hotspot app work if you have a family share data plan? I tether a lot so this is kind of make or break for me. Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] o0BlacknesS0o:
Hey guys... I've been bouncing around checking out ROMs and I'm thinking about giving this one a go as it seems very well supported and suited for my needs... My only question is for you the users... I'm trying to stick to a very stock experience with plenty of extras... And I have roughly read the thread but it is pretty massive to try and read all...i like allot of the features included in the stock rom such as all the motions and built in touchwiz features...Would you guys say that this is extremely close to stock with lots of extras? Feel free to blast me but I just need some personal thoughts from users before I take the plunge

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] radiohead14:
closest to stock with bloat removed. flash away
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] pkd600:
Generally speaking, you do NOT need to wipe the /sdcard partition when flashing ROMs. When people talk about wiping data, they are referring to exactly what you did. You only need to format the entire device in extreme circumstances, and you must follow a different procedure when doing so. I have personally NEVER wiped clean the entire device, and I have had no issues whatsoever. I advise not doing this unless you have some major issues which can not be explained otherwise.

It doesn't really matter what order you flash in. You can do them all in the same session in recovery. Make a nandroid backup first, then wipe data, cache and dalvik-cache. Then flash the ROM, Radio, and RPM (doesn't really matter the order). Reboot. Profit. You could do them in separate Recovery sessions, but there is no reason to. You would have to wipe the cache and dalvik-cache in each Recovery session if you did it this way (and data as well if flashing the ROM).

The Aroma options are all based on your personal preferences. I personally flash Apex launcher, because it is the only launcher I use. If you use the "pro" version of Apex or Nova, the Aroma installer flashes the free version, but the "pro" version is unlocked as soon as you re-install the "pro" version from the market, since it is essentially just a key to unlock the pro features.

Enjoy your new phone!

This is essentially a very stable, debloated and optimized stock TouchWiz experience that is based on the latest Jellybean leak for Verizon Wireless. This is basically an improved stock experience, with Aroma install options that allow you customize to your liking. Try it out, you won't go back.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Shibby87:
Percentage wise, the number is very small. Those who have WiFi tether issues should try out all of the latest leaked JB modems, or pay the $30 fee. Im guessing this will remain the case until the final OTA gets pushed and devs have a solid build to work from.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Wyvern49:
I fully agree with the comments above. This should be a perfect ROM for you given your criteria. I came to this from stock Jelly Bean and find this to be what that would should have been, stock without the bloat. I use Nova launcher and Ultimate Icon Theme to make it look and feel they way I want it. No problems with adding whatever compatible extras you want in my experience.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] lohp75:
I'm an aosp lover, but 5.0 is the most stable rom I've flashed yet! Has all the goodies running smooth as silk. I thank you for your work on this very much!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] sheamolt:
I can dig it:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] david_hume:
My widgets mysteriously vanished and didn't come back until I killed all of my apps via task manager. Weird.... but the only unusual thing I found in rhis ROM after a week of use.

sent from my Sterilized CleanPhone
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] p-slim:
That's great!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] lynneddington:
Pretty sure scott has the fix in service pack 1

sent from my rooted verizon S3

if I accidentally helped u, hit the thanks button
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JaeTea:
I have GPS. So yes, its on. But with Maps, Local, Yelp etc it just sits there for like half an hour trying to lock in. Most of the time it just times out giving me an error.

Same options except TouchWiz Launcher.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tombepa:
Sweet, didn't know that. Thanks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tonytownsend:
I came from cm10

Sent from Vzw Galaxy SIII running Cleanrom 1.3

---------- Post added at 01:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:04 AM ----------

I think I'll flash to 2.0 tonight I need something to tweek out on

Sent from Vzw Galaxy SIII running Cleanrom 1.3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Austin808:
Download GPS status.

Menu key > Tools > Manage A-GPS State

Click on Reset. Then repeat and click Download and see if that helps.

---------- Post added at 02:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:07 PM ----------

I don't think it should matter. When you installed CleanRom 2.0 did you choose to install the insecure kernel or keep default? Might be an issue if you are somehow still on the CM10 kernel.

You might need to restore a touchwiz backup or Odin back to stock then reinstall CleanRom.

---------- Post added at 02:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:11 PM ----------

I have not tired it, but its just a launcher. So I assume it should be fine.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] sdube3:
Hi I'm coming from SynergyROM and I decided to install this. I used ODIN to flash back to stock (Baseband VRLF2, Stock Kernel). I then rooted, unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP, booted into recovery, formatted system, wiped data, cache, dalvik, and then flash CleanROM 2.0 and then the SP1. Also, when I did the initial setup through AROMA Installer, I didn't install any of the options except for the unsecure boot.img and play music.

After about 30 mins of setting up my phone, I noticed that the android system was using up over 50% of the battery in the Battery Usage. Is this normal and will it drop down? There was also "Error" listed under Included Packages in the Battery Stats for Android System. I'm not sure if this is normal but I wanted to check before I completely setup my phone. Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Scott:
Yeah, its in SP1. Im too lazy to update the OP, lol

If I have time tonight I will update.

Not sure. Dont have thos eproblems. Did you restore any app data with TIB? Did yo do a clean wipe. I think this phone takes longer to get a fix than what I am used to but 30 minutes is wayyyyyy too long.

Hehe...

As long as his bootloader is unlocked he can just flash the unsecure boot.img.

-Scott
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Austin808:
When you first setup you phone the android system might be a bit high. Try rebooting and see if it still stays high then there might be a problem.

The "Error" listed under Android System is normal.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Srambo217:
I wish Aroma offered 4x5 launcher, Google Now, Camera Shutter Off.

I'm using Synergy for these options but this ROM's battery performance doesn't hold a candle to CleanROM.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] sdube3:
Thanks. I'll let it sit for a while and see how it responds and report back.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Scott:
No that sounds like a bad flash our bad download. Chef Md5 then flash again. Also at the end of flash save the log in case you have a problem. I can look at it and tell off the install happened correctly. You shouldn't be missing anything that's why I am sure the install went bad.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Austin808:
What is the Camera Shutter Off? Is that the Shutter Sound On/Off option?

If so to enable this you edit /system/csc/feature.xml

Edit the setting below to true. Reboot, then you will have the option to disable the shutter sound.

<CscFeature_Camera_ShutterSoundMenu>true</CscFeature_Camera_ShutterSoundMenu>
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jbdan:
I personally hope GNow does NOT get support for this rom. There are plenty of aosp roms to flash and enjoy GNow. Yes it's cool and works very well but I think it's more of a niche feature. I like TW "as is". This is of my opinion
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Scott:
Cool, I didint know that. I will update that in the next ROM.

It would be an option like the other google apps. I dont know if I want to bother because I never used it on my N7 so I dont even really know what it does, lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] sdube3:
Do I have to do a data wipe again or format system etc.? Would it be ok to back up my apps with Titanium Backup and restore after? Thank you!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JaeTea:
I have GNow on my tablet.

I never use it. I'm not sure what the point of it is even.

It seems like it was just badly tacked onto JB.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Srambo217:
Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Srambo217:
On a tablet I can see it being less useful, but on a phone it comes in handy (although I use it trivially).

Whether or not it's necessary, it's still cool to have.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Scott:
I would just do a facotry reset Recovery, dont restore any apps right now because they could also be coruupted if your reffering to your current install.

We need to get a baseline to figure out what happened.

Hehehehehe
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] sdube3:
Ok. Right now I am redownloading 2.0 and the SP1 over WIFI on my phone and I will move it to the root of my SDCard using ES File Manager and the follow your directions above. I'll report back after. Thanks for your help

Edit: I don't know why, but when I download the file from the link you provide and try to install via TWRP, it says no md5 found. WHat is wrong???? This has never happened before
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cautery:
Possible "features"?

First:

Thanks to all who responded to my earlier questions, and HUGE thanks and kudos to Scott for a truly astounding piece of work in CleanROM! I am thoroughly happy with it! I am ONLY responding here to document what I have found while going through every setting and app on the device before I move on. NOTHING I list should be taken negatively or as a slight... I have no idea if it should/should not be the way it is... I am simply reporting. If what I say helps, great. If it is unhelpful, ignore it and accept my apologies.

Installation: Flashed radio, RPM, and ROM from SD-Ext, after wiping, formatting, flushing every partition and cache I could (except the Ext SD) via CWM 6.0.2.0. Did the EXTRA cleaning to try and make double sure that anything I observed would not be due to ANYTHING leftover from previous "stuff".

Notes From Initial Observations:

Settings->Storage->Backup Assistant Plus - Shows "Calculating". Obviously, BA+ isn't really there. Perhaps it could be deleted and/or greyed out? Not sure it's worth the work.

Settings->Backup Assistant Plus - Selecting this option kills settings with "Unfortunately, Settings has stopped." and dumps you back to the Home Screen (desktop)

Settings->Lock Screen->Lock Screen Options->Information Ticker IF you 1) turn it on, 2) Select "Content Type Stock", and 3) touch-select "Settings" to "Set the ticker settings", it kills settings with the following error: "Unfortunately, Settings has stopped." It dumps you back to Settings->Lock Screen. (If you select Content Type News, and then try to set ticker settings, it just does nothing... which I assume is the correct reaction to not having the application installed behind this settings screen? Choosing Facebook, with Facebook installed puts the ticker on the lock screen but it won't display anything....

Settings->Cloud - Cloud is still in settings and has the "Add Account" sub section which is functional for creating/adding accounts. I didn't select S Cloud in the Aroma Installer, so I don't know if this is here because of some other dependency or what.

Questions:

1)Settings->Wi-Fi->Advanced-> Check for Internet Service "What is this exactly, and should it be ON/OFF?"

2) Settings->Dropbox-> "Accounts" <email address> - Says that "sync disabled", and I cannot for the life of me figure out how/where to enable the sync... If you click on the account, "Sync Now" is greyed out. I have Camera Upload enabled in the General Settings and it works... as does screen capture sync.... And NOT that I want it to sync all the time unless I tell it, but I'd like to know how to make it do so if I chose to do so at a later date.

3) Settings->About Device->Status->Device Status - "Modified" Is there any way to make this whatever it would be with an OTA Rom?

I'm going to go ahead and check every app now to make sure they're all working, et al.

Thanks again... Scott. Hope this helps: Confirmation number: 63S878786K6056456 :good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Brian Gove:
Backup assistant crashes settings because it's not installed on the device. And Dropbox can't sync, I'm not sure why it shows in settings like it does.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cautery:
Yes, I knew BA+ wasn't installed; just documenting the leftovers.

Thanks for the info on DropBox... I've had an account for a while, but never used it. I'm pretty old-school when it comes to archiving... ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bajasur:
Anyone having an issue with text messages not going away from the notification bar after you view them and respond?

This just started for me a few days ago.

Thanks guys
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] anthony92170:
whats your on screen time?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
Any way to get rid of samsungs keyboard and the ime switcher and get the stock or 4.2 keyboard? I can't stand my keyboard not auto correcting lol from lop or lok (and so on)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] COLJ04:
Hey Scott after seeing you bought a N7 after i think you said getting rid of your first one i figured it must be good and since you Dev for it i went out and bought one tonight. Haha. Wanted a 7" tablet and that was my deciding factor.

Cole
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tu3218:
http://db.tt/0TCFqVBV

Install this. Its the most recent 4.2 keyboard.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Mikecolorama:
i'm trying to flash 5.0 right now and i get a red triangle with an exclamation point in it and it says that the signature verification failed and that the installation aborted. what went wrong?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] pkd600:
Your bootloader is unlocked right? Did you check the md5 before flashing? Redownload it, check the md5, then flash away.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Mikecolorama:
the bootloader is unlocked and no, i didn't check the md5. i already did a factory reset. should i just reboot and install the nandroid
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] pkd600:
It sounds to me like you have a bad download. I believe the installer has a built-in md5 check, and it failed the test so it aborted the install. Redownload CleanROM 5.0 and this time check to make sure the md5 is okay. If you have an sd card, you could put the file on the sd card, turn your phone off and plug the sd card in. Then you could just install it from the sd card (make sure you also wipe your cache and dalvik-cache as well, even if you did the factory reset).

If don't have an sd card, you might have to revert back to a nandroid. I'm not sure if there is a way to put a file onto your internal memory from recovery as I've never had to do it before. Someone else might know if this is possible.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bajasur:
Ummm... What is MD5?? :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] pkd600:
It's a hash value that was formerly used in security applications, but is now used primarily to check data integrity of downloaded files.

Basically it works like this:

- A zip file is generated by the creator (CleanROM 5.0.zip). The md5 hash value of this zip file is "0F045E5FB75A43290AE8B6FF4421165E" which is published in the original post of this thread, directly below the Download link.

- You download the file from the server. If everything goes right, your download is "clean" and will have the exact same md5 hash value as the original file. If the download is corrupted, it will have a different value.

- If you are on Windows, this program can be used to compare md5 values:

http://download.cnet.com/MD5-Checker/3000-2092_4-10410639.html

ALWAYS check the md5 value before flashing a ROM or Radio. A bad ROM download will lead to a bad install. In some cases, the author has programed the installer to check the md5 before installation in Recovery to ensure data integrity (I believe this is the case with CleanROM). Flashing a corrupt radio can potentially brick your device. ALWAYS check the md5, they are generally published by the download link.

Hope that helps. :cowboy:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] krazie1:
Ok yesterday the phone started acting weird, the screen started coming on by its self and making screenshot noises but i wasn't taking screenshots. Then it randomly makes the phone plugged in sound and opens the calendar app??? I dont know whats going on, so to see if it was the ROM I went to 2 other ROMs that are based off VRBLK1 and they do the same exact weird things. Anyone experience this freaky issue with this ROM or any other LK1 ROM?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] chupafaros:
I am on 5.0 and flashed the new radios and rpm, if I nandroid back to 4.5 (the one touch zoom is a big deal for me)

Do I have to re flash radios and rpm?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] pkd600:
The nandroid will not flash the older radios and rpm. It is up to you whether or not you want to flash the older radios and rpm, but the new ones will work just fine with 4.5.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Ckamc:
Anyone else have their battery getting at least 20% drained by both android system and os? I tried the idea of restoring my data via nandroid backup after installing this new version. Battery isn't exactly ok since it only lasts 12-14 hours before dying and I am unable to use my phone for a majority of the day.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] devilchrist:
Well Just flashed this,

Still has the home button bug, likely from default build, Not sure if Scott can fix this?

Still has the google now bug with Bluetooth.

Other then that, it's the best out there by far still.

Thanks, keep up to great work!