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[Nexus 7 Android Development] prestige777:
I think Cleanrom comes with the stock kernel.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Godfather13:
Hi all,

This morning my n7 proposes the official 4.3 update, I am still under 4.1 inherance (4.2.2) , I guess I can not update? Need to flash cleanrom 4.0 instead ? Thank you

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 7 en utilisant Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Scott:
I would just flash CleanROM 4 and be good to go!

(But I am kinda biased :))
[Nexus 7 Android Development] escalhavardo:
I have a question. Every odex kernel from 4.2.2 works on this new ROM 4.3 ? If not, which one would be best compatible for this ROM ?

thanks in advance
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Scott:
Cant we all just get along? :crying:
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Moscow Desire:
Thread Cleaning

OP has requested my intervention.

1. Some very rude comments in answer to issues.

2. General Thread cleaning of Flash/Browser issues.

If your post get's deleted, then it's at the OP's request as it has nothing to do with the ROM at hand.

Cheers and please be a bit more respectful to questions, even if the user hasn't searched the thread ;) We all know they "should" before posting, but usually doesn't happen ;)

If you have an urge to be rude, then best to back away from the keyboard for awhile.

Cheers

MD
[Nexus 7 Android Development] sgt. meow:
4.2.2 kernels won't work with 4.3. The ones that are designed for 4.3 are faux's new one, IMoseyon's new one (thread on XDA by azoller), Metallice's new one, vorcer's new one and my new one. Basically the latest version of the kernels published by the users are 4.3-compatible.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] uprightbass360:
The new M-Kernel is fantastic with this rom, I have been having some great battery life with this rom and that kernel :)
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Moscow Desire:
Cleaning finished

Ok, thread has been cleaned of items in prior post. Hated to delete a couple of them, as there might have been useful info. But they shouldn't be in the Dev thread to begin with ;)

Now, here's an idea. Start a thread in the General Forum, for discussing this rom. Then you can help each other out with flash, browsers, etc etc etc, instead of filling the ROM thread.

Google dropped support for Flash starting in JB 4.1x. There are several versions in the wild that may or may not work well with JB.

So I suggest creating an official cleanROM thread in General, where you can discuss all this, and kernels, and other things.

Cheers

MD
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Godfather13:
You are right, why use stock 4.3 :silly:

Thanks
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Warren_Orange:
Hi,

I would like to try this ROM.

I have SmoothRom 5.2 running using TWRP. I am rooted and my bootloader is an older version. Can I just flash the zip? Is updating the bootloader essential and what benefits does it bring?

Thanks.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] dark2099:
No need to update the bootloader, not sure what changes with it. As this is based off the pure stock rom, probably a good idea to clean wipe, and do not restore any system data from titanium, but user data should be fine.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] poondog:
Fransisco dropped a test a few days ago in his thread :) not in his op
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Warren_Orange:
Thanks.

Have just installed Clean Rom 4 now. I had backed up my apps fully via Carbon but you say its best not to restore these? I may just download them from the App store individually then. Better safe than sorry.

Cheers.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] St1ck33:
Hey, I'm on SmoothROM 5.2 right now as well. Any feedback on how performance compares between the two?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] sgt. meow:
[MENTION=4379011]poondog[/MENTION]

Yep. Forgot about that completely. Even though it is his ramdisk that I have modified to use in my kernel. Silly me. :p
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Warren_Orange:
Early impressions are good. Seems very smooth even with stock kernel, although I am yet to get all my widgets and stuff fully up and running. Maybe things will change.

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What is the easiest way to get AOSP browser installed with this ROM? I take it flashing a zip in TWRP will not work because its odexed? Do you need to change permissions?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] melp57:
You won't be disappointed fantastic rom!!

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Also maybe check our here for browser: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2385925

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Anyone else having problems coping text to clipboard? Xda and Chrome both crash. It still copies to clipboard, but crashes. Don't TT think it is the from, but 4.3.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] daddyscooltv:
[/COLOR]What is the easiest way to get AOSP browser installed with this ROM? I take it flashing a zip in TWRP will not work because its odexed? Do you need to change permissions?[/QUOTE]

I just tried this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mkrtchyan.aospinstaller&hl=en and it seems to have worked just fine.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Warren_Orange:
I just tried this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mkrtchyan.aospinstaller&hl=en and it seems to have worked just fine.[/QUOTE]

Hi.

Your quote seems to be messed up.

Anyway, I just tried the AOSP Browser installer as well but for the life of me I can't seem to get my Chrome bookmarks syncing with AOSP browser.

So I have gone back to SmoothRom. This is a great ROM and 4.3 is ace but I'm just used to SmoothRom and the stuff that goes with it. Its more to do with my lack of knowledge than anything else.

But the Clean Rom 4 is 5 stars out of 5 from me. Great work! I'm just to lazy to switch :o
[Nexus 7 Android Development] daddyscooltv:
Hi.

I just tried it too but for the life of me I can't seem to get my Chrome bookmarks syncing with AOSP browser.

[/QUOTE]

Mine didn't sync at first but I had to go into setting and turn on sync for browser and then my bookmarks synced nicely :good:
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Warren_Orange:
Mine didn't sync at first but I had to go into setting and turn on sync for browser and then my bookmarks synced nicely :good:[/QUOTE]

Damn. Too late. SmoothRom is installed now. Good to know anyway :good:

I may install again tomorrow if I have some spare time. Its a pain having a 8GB because I am out of space for backups.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] friedsonjm:
Just back up your data, let Google sync reinstall your aps; I find mybackup (Pro) very good for that.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] dictionary:
This ROM sucks. Because of this ROM I'm now doubting my need for the new n7 lol. Thanks a lot op! Hard to convince my wife when she picks this bad boy up and plays with it. :)
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Warren_Orange:
I want to install adaway. Can I just install F-Droid via apk with this ROM?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] friedsonjm:
+1 .. I've tried way-too-many-ROMs on the N7, some great technically, but nothing that really seemed to overcome the 'speed' issues - until now.

Without taking anything away from all the great developers who have worked with previous versions of Android, this 4.3 based ROM is a radical departure from the past, and with the wonderful work done here, and superb kernels to put on top of it (and my own favorite, turn off all animations!)

Hat's off to it.. and yeah, I'm going to be keeping my shekels for a new tablet in my pocket for a while longer.

jf

p.s. Putting some $$ in the pockets of the guys who give us these great ROMS and kernels is the right thing to do, hit that donate button!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] GenghisKhan67:
I want to like this ROM and really tried to make it my daily driver, but there are simply too many customization options that I miss (I prefer CM-based ROMs).

That said, it's certainly one of the best "stock"-like experiences available for the Nexus 7, very smooth and performance is top notch. Great job!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] SquireSCA:
Out of curiosity, what customization do you need? I mean, to play games, browse the web, email, watch video, read stuff... It does all that.

There are half a dozen solid launchers out there that offer themes, tablet UI type modes, etc... I understand the desire to lay it out nice and make it pretty, but how much customization is really needed?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] GenghisKhan67:
I already use a third party launcher (Nova, which BTW gives an error message in CleanROM if installed as default. something about the .apk being modified and thus unsupported by TeslaCoil). However, there are options that I use daily and absolutely want to see without having to install and configure a bunch of third-party apps:

- I really, really dislike the stock ROM's default behaviour requiring more taps to change wifi and other settings in the quick settings panel. This alone makes me want to take my tablet or my phone and throw it though a window.

- I want a kill app option when developer options are active.

- I want full control over custom power menu, cLock, PIE, nav bar and performance options.

- I want theme support that works.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] kenhicg:
I got the same notification in nova. I just dismissed it and it went away.

If customization is important beyond stock is your thing then you might try cm or buttered aokp when they release 4.3. Very nice rom. Its what I came from before this. I kinda like all the customization but I due tend to waste a lot of time playing with things then can't remember how to fix what I just messed up.

However this was new fast smooth and stock. So I jumped in and don't miss the cool stuff yet. Although I may give buttered a look when it's released.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Limbo045:
The only mod I really miss is to change the navbar height
[Nexus 7 Android Development] hopscotchjunkie:
WiFi doesn't take any more taps, you long-press to toggle on or off (same for Bluetooth).
[Nexus 7 Android Development] YayYouFixedIt:
Should installing mkernel unroot the ROM?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] shevich:
I doubt it
[Nexus 7 Android Development] GenghisKhan67:
I should have mentioned that I also dislike long-press options mixed in with single tap options. Android has come a long way in terms of ergonomics but still has some ways to go before the basic UI is consistent across the board.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] YayYouFixedIt:
Titanium backup and trickster say there's no root after installing mkernel 4.3 a57. I'm not sure what happened.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] shevich:
Just flash supersu through recovery and it will be done
[Nexus 7 Android Development] melp57:
Settings ---->about tablet ---> Android version 4.3. Tap on Android version 4.3 a couple three times. Then slide your finger across the screen, on the jelly bean . Kinda cool :)
[Nexus 7 Android Development] friedsonjm:
I'm not sure I want to know what you were doing when you figured that out!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] SquireSCA:
I have found that with so much customization, you end up spending more time tweaking and customizing than you spend using the thing. hehe
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Scott:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH! That was wrong.

But for sure those little tricks have been in android for a while.

Indeed!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Warren_Orange:
Gave this ROM another go. Really like it now. Everything is fluid and smooth.

I managed to install AOSP browser fine through the market place and get bookmark sync working. I didn't realise Adaway was available though Aroma (missed it the first time) so that saves a job.

Can anyone recommend a kernel? I have heard that m-kernel a58 is close so I may wait for that maybe.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] friedsonjm:
I'm using Faux's 123 kenel, with his app to control it. Make sure you get the version for 4.3

Combination is fast as heck, stable, smooth, and great battery!

EDIT: You want to look for Kernel[021]JB4.3(1.60Ghz Quad)UV,CIFS+UTF-8,PowerHAL,Linux-3.x Hybrid [Jul-25]

downloads at http://faux.androido.ms/grouper/jb43/
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Scott:
Faux Kernel.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Warren_Orange:
Do you need the app though to get the best out of it? I just want something that I can flash and forget. I am not into fiddling with parameters and tweaking.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] melp57:
Saw it on an unboxing YouTube :)
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Scott:
You can flash and go. I think if you use some apps you could tweak it further. But I, like yourself, look for simplicity in choice. So I just flashed, OC'ed it some and did not touch anything else... And it was stable and fast.

So to answer your question, No you dont need anything else unless you want to increase the clock speeds.

And even then you could make a simple init.d script that does this for you without the need for an app. But that may be beyond the scope of your question.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] kenhicg:
I'm curious what app did you use. I used no frills CPU and it was at 1.5 and wouldn't go any higher.

Life is better with root
[Nexus 7 Android Development] djmeistro:
I'm having the same issue. No Aroma installer runs. I've tried downloading the zip again... I'll try one more time to see if the fluke happened twice.:(
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Scott:
System Tuner Pro. Depends on what version of the kernel as well. The Ultimate version goes to 1.7 I believe. I forget but I know its even faster.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] friedsonjm:
Buying his app does support the developer... for what that's worth..
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ElGato65:
Then drag 3 fingers around the screen a little
[Nexus 7 Android Development] melp57:
+1
[Nexus 7 Android Development] dark2099:
I'm not sure if it was just me who was experiencing this, but actually setting it to 1.7 is what killed my benchmark scores, leaving it at 1.6 fixed that. Not sure exactly why, might have been the volts I was using, or some odd gamer fix that made only a single core do that, can't say that it felt bad for normal use, but not sure it actually improved things either.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Scott:
Ohhhh, is that what you were talking about over Gtalk?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] dark2099:
Yup.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jdagreek:
It's because of the JB 4.3 TRIM feature that it runs so much faster
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ThurstonX:
Installed CleanROM (first custom ROM I've used), which went fine. Seems quite nice. I then installed faux123's kernel, since there's been a lot of ranting and (mostly) raving about it here. But I could not get CIFS to mount and be visible. I could get Mount Manager to say they were mounted, but I always got the ol' Empty Directory when opening them.

I'd been using vorcers' kernel + kernelmods under 4.3, and CIFS always mounted fine. So I tried flashing his kernel + mods into CleanROM, but I still couldn't get CIFS to mount, or when they did, they were empty. I'm fairly certain I was setting everything up as I'd had it with the stock ROM, but I'd get the "Unable to chmod <mountpoint>: Read-Only file system" error in Mount Manager, depending on the mountpoint. With the stock 4.3 ROM I was using /mounts/<mountpoint>.

Is there some reason CIFS wouldn't work with CleanROM and either kernel? Anyone have any advice on how to get it to work with CleanROM and faux123's? I was really looking forward to using it, but no CIFS is a deal breaker.

Thanks.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Scott:
A lot more to it than that my friend.

Run my ROM and then run stock, benchmark both even...

My ROM is, as I calculate, roughly 20% quicker than stock.

I had to make a lot of adjustments to the database caching. The trim will help but that is long term.

What I did gives immediate results with unparalleled usability!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] dimiar:
I was wondering about charching time , its on charger for 6 hours and went from 14% to 52% , iam using faux kernel. Is this normal????
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Scott:
Sorry, I wont be much help there...

Maybe someone else can answer?

That seems slow to me.

Anyone else see that?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] skrewie:
Great rom ! Iam running with faux123 kernel and get 7 hours screen on time and 2 days up time @ 1.6 ghz !

Benchmarks Antutu 14705.

Thanks for your great piece of work, my tablet feels like a new one !
[Nexus 7 Android Development] kenhicg:
I'm experiencing about the same. I thought it was getting better but not so much.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] friedsonjm:
Not having any such problem at all....
[Nexus 7 Android Development] brizey:
Ssidselector.... makes a great Wi-Fi widget if you need to switch between access points a lot.

You can always swipe in recents to kill apps. Is just not something you need to do very often.

There are a ton of kernel control apps that let you control performance better than the one built into cm based ROMs.

Can't stand PIE (I'll take a little less screen real estate over crappy clumsy controls any day), so can't help you there.

I would like a shortened nav bar, too, but it's pretty minor.

I like the AOKP style (pretty sure they did the long press to open, sort press to toggle first) quick tiles better, too. But really I don't use them all that much.

XThemeEngine works. Does pretty much everything the T-Mobile theme engine does.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] dimiar:
I took it almost 12 hours to full charge! That's insane! Any ideas?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Warren_Orange:
So does the trim feature work with this rom? The one that is built into 4.3?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] friedsonjm:
Suggest you read this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7185/android-43-update-brings-trim-to-all-nexus-devices

a key point of which is:

Now, I tried to run fstrim from a terminal window, and it does NOT work; fstrim is apparently inside vold (the volume daemon), and can't be called directly. [If you want to run it manually, on or your own schedule, get Lagfix from the Playstore.]

HOWEVER, as great as it is to have fstrim working periodically in 4.3, it is NOT 'the reason' this ROM is so smooth and quick; prior to now, no matter what ROM & kernel I've been running, my N7 would slow up dramatically during the day, never mind being so quick out of the gate! There is more going on here than trim. [Hey, who knows, it might even have something to do with the effort the developer has put into the ROM!]
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Warren_Orange:
Cool thanks for the info.

I didn't want to call it directly, I was just wondering if it was being done automatically in 4.3 without lagfix installed.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] djmeistro:
Aroma Installer

So I never got a response from an earlier post... is it normal to not have the Aroma Installer run after installation? I first installed the rom and then flashed faux kernal, but no Aroma Installer ran...:confused:
[Nexus 7 Android Development] daddyscooltv:
Did you flash the stock rooted rom or cleanrom 4.0? I don't believe that the stock rooted rom has Aroma just CleanRom..

What does your build number say?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] djmeistro:
Wow... I am a dumbass :silly:... just found the Cleanrom underneath the stock roms... thanks
[Nexus 7 Android Development] slebit:
Trying your rom right now. Working nice so far.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] _-..zKiLLA..-_:
My battery life isn't the greatest :( I may go back to 4.2 >.<
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
Give it a couple days for trim to do it's thing. I got 8 hours screen time on the last charge browsing and using TapaTalk..
[Nexus 7 Android Development] melp57:
Is the anyways to configure the default launcher, such as stopping wallpaper scroll? Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] alan sh:
Just installed this Rom and the Faux kernel. Very pleased with how smooth it all is now.

Only issue (which is not the fault of the ROM, I think) is that Flash player v ..63 causes my browsers to crash.

Cheers

Alan
[Nexus 7 Android Development] kenhicg:
Battery charge test.

It took two hrs to bring the battery from 71% to 100% maybe that is normal but it seems a bit longer than it used to. Let me know what you think.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Restola:
My nexus 7 has never ran like this before. Incredible work Scott.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] mastertantoo:
battery life

Hi,

I think android takes a while to figure out the battery levels. You may try running the battery flat (or below 30%, advice I have read varies) and recharging. I'd be interested to know if this helps.

For what it's worth my charging seems fine although I've not heavily used the device. Battery life seems very good so far :)

Regards,

Aaron.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] kenhicg:
I've had it below that level a couple times and there seems to be no change However I do expect it to improve like you said. I was just addressing what a few have experienced. I have no complaints about this rom. I never thought this thing would act better than new again.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ezas:
Those with charging issues.

Of course make sure you are using a 2 amp charger.

Try dirty flashing your kernel, or flash a different kernel and then flash back to the kernel you want to run. It shouldn't, but I have solved problems in the past with a dirty kernel flash. (by dirty I mean the the same kernel over itself)

My battery does seem to lose charge a little faster now. But charging Is as fast as it has always been.

The only thing that running the battery down and then back up does is to give battery stats a new baseline. But flashing a Rom is going to get a new baseline anyway. Just use your device after flashing. In a couple of charge cycles it will figure out the apps you use and and their discharge rate. It uses this to display how battery life is left.

It's no more complicated than that.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Scott:
Lttitle do people know that the Nexus 7 "OG" actually has a couple different hardware revisions. I learned this when I bought my second or maybe third one.

One of the differences was half of the people using the last 4.2.1 ROM I made, including myself, would get a pop sound and or loss of sound. The other half would have normal sound.

I think in this situation, there could be a variance in hardware that is showing through, could be charges not charging up to par as well. Make sure you use the OEM charger to gauge the charge speed.

TBH, I dont know what is acceptable and what is not. I know the other guy that charged for liek 7 hours was not accapetable. I would challenge the effectiveness of his charger at that point. Maybe even the efficacy of the battery.

If you like at the statitsitcs, albeit with a grain of salt, this ROM has been downloaded nearly 5,000 times in 6 days... And of that maybe 3 people have noted an issue with the charge rate being slower than acceptable.

Just my two cents.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] inaudible101:
So is anyone else having problems with root access? I would assume this rom is pre rooted but when I open supersu I get a no su binary installed error. I've tried two different tool kits and a couple flashable zip and nothing seems to fix this.

I did a dirty flash from 4.2.2 and lost root access. I might just end up doing a wipe and clean flash but figured I'd see if anyone here had any ideas. Otherwise great rom. I can really feel the difference.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jinetesombra:
thanks

thanks
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Scott:
No, no issues with root... HOWEVER....

I have noted this issue with root; (ironic)

Two scenarios that affect this...

1. ROM Flashes, No Google Set up, hence no app updates (note SuperSU here), Root is fine.

2. ROM Flashes, Google Setup, apps update (Note: Super SU) and you loose root access.

Just flash SuperSU 1.51 and all will be good. Or dont set up the google account before you flash, eitherway works.

But at this point I would not play with any tool kits, just download supersu and it should get you back on track.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thelangosta:
Good stuff and much appreciated. Thanks