yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Yes whenever he completes his ill attempt to work on mine. Just wanna make sure me and him are on the same page/base
[Thunderbolt Android Development] trapperjohn:
Hi,

With so many people itching for the release I for one am hoping there will be mirrors available from the start to download it.

Thanks,

Bryan
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
"his ill attempt" ?!?!?

ill attempt?

That's no way to talk about your partner in crime. Just throw him under the bus and back over him a few times. Might has well ask Liquid for an ETA while you're at it.

jk
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
Ok. I noticed he didn't release his last version that you based this one on and I thought maybe all future releases were coming from you with his base.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Some people like stock, some like my modded one. Im waiting for him to finish or get it to a good point, Then ill rebuild this rom. He is bouncing back and forth with different things. Hes hard to keep up with but he gets on and sends us a good one. Ill use it and get u guys something new
[Thunderbolt Android Development] enzonix:
I've been reading this thread since day one and haven't seen this before...

I found a way to make the email contents show up when the email is empty, at least for me. If you open the email and don't see anything in the body just exit to your home screen then press and hold the home button. When the multi-tasking thumbnails opens up swipe the email thumbnail to the left or right to close it. When you click back on the icon and then an email the contents will be there. I haven't had to restart, force close, clear cache or anything for this particular issue.

Has anyone else tried this?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
Someone mentioned something like that earlier. I thought Itried it, but I'm not sure.

I'll give it a shot next time it happens and report back.

Thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Swannyman17:
Nice find man. I've been dealing with this problem for a while, just tried this and it worked great. Thanks a ton.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sg1dan:
holy crap i works. thanks man.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
Aight. Im excited to see how much better this can get.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] enzonix:
No problem. I've been lurking for 3-4 months and signed up last month. It's high time I contribute at least a little something to the community especially when we've got people like Jester and Liquid who do so much for us.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Well all three of us have decided we are getting Droid Razr HD Maxxes and that Mecha will just have to code itself sorry for the inconvenience have a nice week :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] crashdau:
I hope your joking. Please tell me your joking?!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dwazzue:
Such vile nasty words....

If so enjoy the Razr HD Maxx.... the contribution to the T-Bolt will be missed dearly...

I too however hope you are joking...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
ROFL OMG, Link you bastard, guys it isnt true. Although you guys should probably put it on ur watch list. Razr M is only 99.99 and the Razr HD and Razr HD Maxx are coming in the next month or so. 18th HTC should show us some new stuff, and then you know Google will sometime soon also.

If the Moto Devices are Rootable i may be picking one up myself. Locked bootloader or not they at least support their products
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
That's good news. Sounds like a good deal but I just hate how crappy moto devices have become since the droid3.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dwazzue:
Phew!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DaRkL3AD3R:
I couldn't use another Moto device, Droid X was my last. Also happens to have something to do with their love of TI OMAP's, not a fan of them.

But either way, I'd be amazed if you guys DIDN'T move on past the Thunderbolt come January 2013. There's bound to be some seriously nice new devices available, and contracts should be up soon.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
+1 rumors are HTC is gonna release a 5 inch quad core tegra 3 phone for vzw by latest December 22

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jwort93:
Its not rumored to be a tegra 3. Its a quad core s4 with adreno 320 graphics.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
Oh still pretty good

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jwort93:
Based on the benchmarks I've seen, its actually much better. I can't wait.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
I'm very excited to. Its supposed to come wth sense 5 and supposed to be the first device to get official sense 5. I think its supposed to come out a couple days after the note 2. Does anyone happen to know about a release date??

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DS36:
Still waiting for the first voice and data over LTE phone
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
Again with the freakin ETA's.

Remember when we just waited for the rain to fall and the crops to grow?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animez:
I'm due for an upgrade in November, but if the rumors of the 5" HTC are true I will be sitting on my upgrade for the first time ever. That phone sounds amazing.

Sent from my Liquid ICS TBolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
+1 I've already had an upgrade available for 2 weeks

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] namurt:
look, i don't mean to sound like a **** here, but can we stop cluttering this thread with COMPLETELY UNRELATED CHATTER THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROM FOR WHICH THE THREAD WAS CREATED?!

okay, so i did mean to sound like a ****. i'm getting tired of checking in for updates from link and/or jester and having to wade through pages of chit chat that has nothing to do with this awesome rom.

just. stop. already.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ohiog:
He was asking when the phone would release, not the ROM. Learn to read.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] heath2805:
I since a little tension here lol Calm down everyone :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sg1dan:
man, phone are getting bigger than my ****
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
Hahahhaha

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WalkerGFX:
So what seems to be running better for users currently? Desensed or this? Currently running desensed and experiencing screen flickers.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Rippster:
Dude...I'm 100% with you. It comes down to the "Thanks-to-Posts" ratio. For instance, you're a 1:3.65. I'm a 1:3.03. Jonah is a 1:10.05. Using this ratio system, you can see who the "Chit Chatters" are. We need to remember that this is a DEVELOPMENT thread and should be respecting it as such. Post should be directly related to development. Otherwise....take it to General.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] humblewarfare:
Im running desensed with little issues right now. Im waiting for 4G data on this build then Ill probably switch over.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
I'm developing my sarcasm. How's it coming along so far?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Rippster:
:good::good::good: (damn...there goes my ratio...)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
This rom runs far better than all the other iterations of ics we have at the moment.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 7h3.4pp12en7ic3:
This build DOES have 4G data. This has been covered ad nauseum. The signal display does not show that it is 4G, but 4G speeds are definitely possible.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] heath2805:
Most definitely agree...the other roms based off the Bamf ics eat the hell outa your battery.

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[Thunderbolt Android Development] WalkerGFX:
This may have already been answered, but how I get apps I paid for? In my apps acts like I haven't paid and gives error
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gammaxgoblin:
Not to be an even bigger ****, but there is nothing about the Rom to discuss. It is what it is. People comment here because they check this thread ten times a day hoping to see something new. But to keep this Rom related....this Rom drops data all the time. I have to go airplane or reboot to get it back regardless of radio version. So do I want steady data or good battery, this is my issue....

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clear data from market...

Sign out, sign back in...

Reboot several times...

Reinstall Rom....

These are all things that MAY fix that.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WalkerGFX:
Thanks. Did fix permissions and it fixed it. ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
Since Google bought them out I suspect their phones will be getting better.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] IvanNCase:
I've found a small bug. If you set a lockscreen target to (Activities->System UI->Torch) it works great but if you set it to (Activities->System UI->statusbar.powerwidget.Torch) it will work once and then cause the system UI to crash if used again.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
We are working on bugs, we dont have to keep hearing them every day. It's not like we can change it right away. Liquid knows hes working them out. Chill.

As far as Motorola Vs HTC and all the others. Im going with Moto, (If they are rootable) your droidx was locked down and still is and no one can get around it. Although i like safestrap and kexec kernel, we have our ways around it.

But today i found out even my old step child of a phone called the BIONIC is getting official jelly bean. Tell me 1 time HTC would do that for any phone? Other than the One series.

I'd rather be updated than abandoned with a 299 dollar shiney piece of palstic
[Thunderbolt Android Development] IvanNCase:
Don't know if this was towards me but please understand I wasn't trying to say that this needs to be fixed right now or anything. I just figured if I found a bug I should let you guys know how to replicate it so that as you're working through your list of things if and when it comes time to fix this one the info might give some you or liquid some idea what's going on that's not working.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Just in general. People keep posting the same crap over and over, when i come on you gotta realize i have to read 5 pages back to catch up... The NFL App people and alot of other things in general. Simply put is "We Know, We will get to it" lol, Doesnt have to be put on repeat like a broken record. And not towards you, the torch has been fixed in the latest, just so you know lol

But yet people are still begging Link of Hyrule for him to leak the latest build he has, blowing up inboxes, and just agonizing what i said not to do. The latest build camera didnt work at all. So quit begging, Go to something stable if you cant handle it for now. As i said we do not want to release a broke build, because if 1 person leaks it, itll be all over the net, and then we will have so many copies no one will know who has the latest anymore.

Realize that each build that gets compiled takes liquid up to 40 minutes to get it rebuilt. Just to test 1 build, then its back into coding after we tell him whats going on. Realize he doesn't use a thunderbolt, he still has his, but he cant test things like we can, no point in making him get a different sim card for every single test....

We are working on things, but right now we are more less just chilling waiting for Liquid to come up with whatever magical thing hes got going on, He's having to either redo the kernel or something else, he has not been on much so just everyone relax, catch up on android news like we are. And when its time we will let you know
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gruiz1122:
I dunno why but I'm seriously leaning towards the new phablet from HTC. I like the look of it and its got some pretty good specs, if the rumors are true. I know they're not the best when it comes to updates but that's why we have the wonderful dev community.

I seriously don't want a Samsung product. Every Sammy phone I've handled feels cheap and plasticky. LG is just a joke and Sony isn't on my radar at all. Although Sony has done some good work releasing the code needed to make AOSP builds for its phones.

Sorry for the rambling, just wanted to share my insights.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] zero26800:
They do have VoLTE phones already. The LG Revolution is VoLTE capable. It's just not usable because verizon doesn't have the 4G expanded enough yet.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] amwenguer:
Flashed the new radio combo and still had some issues with data. Went to mobile networks and tried to go from CDMA and back to LTE/CDMA. However I noticed it was on CDMA to begin with and I kept trying to switch to LTE with no kick. Yes I know we have 4g speeds.

But why wouldnt I be able to click one of the specific network settings in mobile networks.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sg1dan:
that radio blows, don't use it. it doesn't solve any problems, just creates more. don't even think that the radio is meant for ICS.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
The .19 radio combo is working flawlessly for me. The initial version is total crap though. It appears to be older than the 605.9 radio but that's just my thoughts.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
The only time I'm not in the dark is when there's light. But even then, sometimes I still feel like I'm in the dark.

Yes, I'm bored. Just passing the time impatiently.

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Duh

See post #1350 re: Sarcasm.

Get back to me, let me know how that reading thing is working out for ya. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
The normal ICS radio from rw is working fine for me fast speeds and no problems.

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tuckandroll:
umm all of a sudden i am not able to use google play music. I have wiped the data, uninstalled and reinstalled and fixed permissions... any suggestions?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
In the op it states that play music doesn't work although its been working fine for me

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tuckandroll:
it had been working fine for me but i had to reflash last night because of a bad backup file... ineresting maybe the new flash borked it. OK well no worries I'll make do with the onboard music app.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] polish23:
Can you Link me that radio? I'm not sure which thread it is in lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
An unmodified version of Google Music won't work on the current release because it contains a bug that makes the rom try and load API 16 resources and then it crashes because they don't exist. This has been fixed in the next release.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tuckandroll:
Awesome thanks Link!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
Here u go http://rootzwiki.com/topic/33261-leak-radios-7006052-ics-radios/

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
You can find it in my thread here until the new version is released. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1799125
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sithdroid2187:
I think I need to implement a block of xda on my Sonicwall today. I spend more time checking in for any updates pertaining to the next release that I get very little work done. The current build is AMAZING! I can only imagine how much better it will be with the next release. I feel like a kid during the weeks leading up to Christmas.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
+1
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DrunkUncas:
Power management

I just got around to installing this. You guys are right. It's awesome. I feel like a tool for waiting this long.

Those of you getting monster battery life- what tools/settings are you using?

Is it worth installing Set CPU, or is the included ap working well enough? What the hell does smartass or interactive governors do?

How about 2X? I've never used it, but some of the guys on the BAMF leak seem to be getting good results with it.

Thanks Jester! You've shown remarkable patience dealing with people who want it free, perfect, and immediately. I'm waiting for one of these idiots to ask for a puppy.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animez:
I'm using SetCpu w/ ondemand governor. Also have a profile set up to bottom out the clock when screen is off (which it should do anyway). Getting pretty great battery life. I've used 2x in the past and it does make a difference, but this rom can have issues reconnecting occasionally so I'm reluctant to install it with this rom. I don't have issue connecting a lot, but if it's toggling that often I think issues would be more likely.

Sent from my Liquid ICS TBolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] arizonaomnia:
I would really appreciate someone sharing with me the best settings to use in the Mobile Networks screen in Settings. I know I can probably find it, but searching 145 pages in Tapatalk seems disheartening. Thanks. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] arizonaomnia:
Apparently I know how to shut down a party, lol.

I seem to have the most reliable connection with all roaming enabled and CDMA/EvDo, but I think my speeds are fastest with LTE/CDMA/EvDo. I'm wondering what others are doing for a fast, reliable connection. I'm also using the combination of the .19 radio and the leaked ICS radio, posted in another XDA thread. Thanks for the advice in advance.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Shadow Death:
The reason why your speeds seem faster with lte/CDMA/EvDo is because the ROM still gets 4G signal so you're actually connecting on LTE. I have notices LTE kills the battery extremely fast on this ROM. And Ive noticed using LTE and making calls at the same time makes for bad call quality so if I'm expecting a call I drop to CDMA/EvDo
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
I don't always flash a rom but when I do it's an a almost ready to be released version of LiquidSmooth ICS! Stay thirsty my friends and let the Liquid fill your Mecha's soul with Ice Creamy goodness!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] IvanNCase:
Excited! I know you only said almost ready but any chance of getting a list of whats working on the build you've got such as netflix, video recording, etc?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
As said before we will probably not have a working video camera until kernel source is release Update should be sometime this weekend. As far as netflix i dont know.... That could be anything we have to see if its a app problem or not

Liquid is releasing his version first
[Thunderbolt Android Development] heath2805:
Looks Awesome Jester! Looks like Newt's gonna release a sense 4 soon http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1846019

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Like the set up link!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
So like we have fully working data now. Where is our love from the forums or at least some attention.... lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] heath2805:
You know I'll be running your builds anyway lol Thanks for all the hard work bro!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
I'm gonna be all over that new build like white on rice
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
When's the release I can't wait.

Sent from my Liquid ICS HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Gary G:
the natives are getting restless
[Thunderbolt Android Development] taylormade629:
Haha one hint of release qnd everyone turns into cavemen.

Sent from my Liquid ICS Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] animez:
If the update is even half as great as we all except it to be I'm sure me and plenty of others will be spamming Android forums, tech blogs, home shopping networks and medical supply companies till someone sits up and takes notice! Neener neener neener HTC! :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] keeverw:
I have the leaked radios installed, and before that I had the .19 radios I believe. And before and after I flashed the leaked radios I had data connection problems. It worked sometimes, but sometimes it wouldn't work. And the signal status indicator didn't really show any changes. It would show 1X and like -68 or so dbm but it wouldn't work when I tried to use an app that requires data. Then later it would say basically the same thing, but that time it would work.

Are others having this problem? And will the update fix it?

Thanks!

Other than that, great rom! I thoroughly appreciate the effort you guys have put into this aging phone.

I had completely given up on ever having ICS with data on my Bolt.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] major_works:
Jester and/or Link:

Which radios will you be recommending for use with the update when it arrives?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] heath2805:
He's gonna say .19 lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
Do you think he's gonna say that because he's already said it?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] heath2805:
Your an obvious observer kind sir ,) lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
Captain Obvious to the rescue.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MicroChip:
Well let's all agree on the importance of doing this for liquid, jester and link. When the new rom is released this weekend, jester should start a NEW thread for it. And EVERY SINGLE PERSON who uses the rom should click on "NEWSWORTHY THREAD" which if you don't already know is on the upper right corner of the first post of every thread. That will drive it to the front of XDA, and that will get the attention on the other blogs.

I will click it. I clicked it for this thread when I loaded the rom. Will all of you click it on the new thread?

MC
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sithdroid2187:
Oh I will make note of it! Facebook, Here, HTC's site because Liquid and Jester did what HTC still hasn't done (the leak doesn't count in my book)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Bwangster12:
Is anyone else having issues with Google Now...

I find that when I press the voice search button through the widget, by long pressing the search key, or by pressing the red mic when the app is open... it does not recognize my voice and then beeps and says "Tap mic to..." Then if I press it, it'll often work... but its finicky, so not always

I have found that to get it to register consistently, I need to hold the search button and keep holding it as I'm talking and Google Now picks up my voice and works. Likewise, if I hold the red mic button on screen as I'm talking it works. I asked about it in the official Google Now for ICS forum and someone said that it's a known bug with AOSP Roms and that it had something to do with the microphone runtime... and he didn't think he could fix it.

If this is a common bug that everyone experiences... it almost eliminates AOSP roms for me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] keeverw:
Will it be a new thread? Or just an update to this one?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Bwangster12:
I'm confused... Jester picked up Liquid's ICS ROM because Liquid was having "ROM stealing issues?" And now Liquid is working on his ROM simultaneously to Jester's ROM? What is the difference? I see Jester and Liquid are releasing ROM updates this weekend? What are the differences?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hexhead:
+1 x 10^6
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
Liquids build will be pure ics and jesters will include his personal mods.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jonah1234:
most likely a new thread because this thread is the beta and the new build will most likely be the official build.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] paul1035:
Even though I really enjoy Jester's mods and plan to run his ROM when he releases, where does Liquid usually post his ROMs? I didn't see his last one that's why I ask.