yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy General] niksy+:
I already suggested to Harsha that we can come up with a story that has nothing to do with India about the way we got the files and completely lie about the source. Just need to set the story straight in private messages and never talk about the truth again :D
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Give me some time ill talk with him: )

Well he was saying Defy unlocking is not easy as Other Motorola Phones he saying SMD Soldering Skills are required For unlocking device? well im confused too and he says Defy And Razr Map Configuration files are different But Milestone and Defy Files Are same
[Defy General] overclockthesun:
taek your time..... and convince him ....we can always come up with a story about how it got unlocked :laugh: I dont think he should worry ... our devs will keep it a secret.
[Defy General] viper.:
This sounds like a real hack not just simple engineering mode as we thought earlier.
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
Smd soldering??!?!?!???.....u gotta b kidding me......that's hyper sensitive and every tom **** and harry may not be ready for that....."!!!!!...let's see what hpns ..
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Service center guy saying the same we have to wait
[Defy General] viper.:
Yeah you have to be expert in soldering to do that.

I remember that back in some thread about bl unlock ,there was similar talk to this one. It was about hacking the phone via hardware but later someone popped up with engineering mode and everyone has forget about that idea.
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Well there is some way im figuring it as remebering Removing RSA from old Motorola Phones with some. Bin file
[Defy General] nidhish91:
Things are getting interesting . I can't wait to see the result.

S3nt fr0m my D3fy/w1u1 GB st4BL3
[Defy General] overclockthesun:
anyone know how to boot defy into Fastboot mode?
[Defy General] niksy+:
Not possible, mate, afaik :/ Some say that fastboot is used when we flash with RSDlite, though.
[Defy General] hsrars-d:
hm. if the fastboot is used on RSD Flash process, ill flash my defy with official SBF later today and use an USB sniffer to see what is going on.

Not sure if i can understand anything in the logs though, maybe someone else can?
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Guys please dnt expect high about Defy Boot Loader.as per my sources defy Boot Loader can't be unlocked if we still manage to unlock we will lose GSM/3G Capabilities.ill update later and with every detailed matter about this.
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
Dude....dat result has been known by kexec method......but what v r searching for is that bin file which makes our defy like engineering one .....can flash cross bl sbfs and most probably custom kernels......v have had a user here in xda who had Eng. Defy with GSM/3g working......plus a user also has seen the working of the to omap tool for which we need the bin file.....now do u have any sources for that file????
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
There is a signature check in BootRom so we can't unlock boot-loader as said.by my friend even timap files not able to help unlocking defy
[Defy General] hsrars-d:
Cant you give the files to a defy dev?

they might be able to use them for good.
[Defy General] kholk:
I've seen what a damn mess is exploding here.

Forget that idea: it's all about false informations.

The only way to switch your phone to "Engineering" is to set to 0 (ZERO) the SEC eFuse: whether the SBD_EN (if I recall the name correctly) eFuse is set to 1 or 0 it's not important in any case. Plus, remember that the eFuses are OTP: once programmed, there's no way to reprogram (in less words, forget the eFuse way).

Reconfiguring the board will only give you the possibility to brick your phone permanently, also because you can't access the USBDL mode if not with an hardware modification (SMD soldering skills and equipment required).

Even if you get what you claim, you'll only be able to reflash your phone with current Motorola (signed) software.

You won't be absolutely able to unlock or gain access to anything.

The only way for unlocking your phone (converting it to an engineering model) is to desolder the OMAP and solder it as GP (it's currently soldered as HS).

Just my two cents.

Don't lose your time with useless things.

The EternityProject Team Manager & Main Developer,

--kholk
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Who is the user who had Eng. Defy.??

PS: I'm losing hope.
[Defy General] hsrars-d:
I guess its up to Moto now :(
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Yes its possible to Motorola.they are developing a tool for.older devices also.we have to wait
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
Don't remember but in the cheesecake thread I remember reading it....
[Defy General] overclockthesun:
Will believe it when it happens
[Defy General] Sir Flashalot:
Huh? Do you have a source article which mentions his?
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
there is no source i have inside contacts with Motorola if u Dont believe me i can't do anything.just wait and see what will happen Motorola is real lazy to release them asap
[Defy General] vap_66:
It would be nice if this thread will not turn into "Hemil: Return of the troll".

Trimis de pe Motorola Defy
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
What's wrong with u guys everything is Hemil Huh???tell me clearly its about me I wont be active on xda.this is second time that u are saying I'm fake like that
[Defy General] coolzarjun:
Hey chill man.. gussa kyon hote ho ^.^

Take criticism in a healthy way ..

We are no one to judge if you're fake or not..

Let your work speak for you

continue your good work for the defy ..thanks man :)

Sent from my DEFY
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
Easy dude.....u r d only hope atleast at present fr us.......don't worry abt no doers.....its just that v r too desperate and impatient.....keep up d search .....all d best

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Easy dude.....u r d only hope atleast at present fr no
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
On further thought....please do explain abt this ...... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=25583312......was that true at all....??????
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Bro that's true but I'm.not sure Will Motorola update defy to ics or not.Motorola.Indian Head using Official ICS build on His defy.there is 50-50 Chance if still all are thinking that I'm fake please ignore me on this Forum Thank You
[Defy General] brajesh.sharma87:
Look, its not hard to believe that head of motorola is using ICS coz the device is capable enough of having ICS even JB. Its only the business strategy that they will not release any further update.

And on a serious note, grow up and please stop fooling people, the forum is literate enough. No offence intended.
[Defy General] vap_66:
Actually, I heard that he is using official iOS 6 on his Defy :D.

Trimis de pe Motorola Defy
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
I am not saying u r fake or anything.......just that if u have/had "official ics" on defy....u should post it.....as Google says......don't be evil
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
So u think I'm illiterate???I'm not fooling people in this forum. Even.I'm going to work in Motorola..think abt me as u like guys I never mind.xda is great after m3 but users always showing criticism on me this is enough for me...

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Vap please stop joking about me just tell me why are guys only joking only abt me not others???huh???any specific reason?
[Defy General] TJKV:
Lol he never called you illiterate :P

And come on you gotta understand why people are so touchy on this matter...can't blame them.
[Defy General] billy0719:
what happened? r we talk about unlock defy ,y r u turn to ics.

btw,i think theres no posible to get official ics support ,however, cm10 is no official too
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
If I post I'll be on big trouble that's why I'm not posting I dnt wanna take risk
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
Dts kinda lame after u make such big claims.....ok....don't release it publicly.....just give it to one of d devs.....dey can repackage it.....change ur online identity....just don't fool us...lol
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
I'm not fooling anyone here.ill quit this forum that's better this forum members are not really friendly.no believing others stop.talking abt ICS OR JB This thread ment only for bootloader not for waste.discussion
[Defy General] overclockthesun:
Dude, seriously, I don't understand why we Indians get so touchy feely and lose our temper at little frivolous matters. No one called you a fake and neither did anyone call you a troll.

We here support what you are trying to do.

Here is one simple idea. Our devs are not stupid, so If you ask them to look at the official ICS update without leaking your identity, they will.

Plus there must be some goodies in that update which they can figure out.

think about this, what if pursuant to the official ICS update, they also add fasboot as an option while booting the phone? that could lead us to a potential BL unlock.

Just share your files with the devs like Quarx and Epsy, they are pros and you wont be revealed either...... have been following this thread only to see you reply with good news. Now that you have the stuff please share ... thats what XDA is all about.
[Defy General] billy0719:
yes,all defy users will thax u and support u

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r you using the official ics now on your defy ?
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
No Changed my Mother Board for getting Red Lens

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[Defy General] neo.ank:
Seriously guys... Where is the discussion goin' :eek:

Lets just stick with the topic.. shall we..
[Defy General] nidhish91:
Really didnt expect this thread to turn this way.

BTW my guy said the files are no more available. So its a end from my side. Sorry. Anyone else with some good results?
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Im on way trying told him I will give money hope he will help me.ill visit sc tomorrow.

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[Defy General] motoxda:
Lets be honest this is a distant dream and this harsha guy is not credible with his claims at all.
[Defy General] hsrars-d:
Believe what/who you want.
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
For Now i Got Two Files from my friend the files one is Device SW_DeviceIdAllocationTool.exe and One file Exact Size of 16.1 mb bin file but im not sure does it for defy or not i"ll upload asap
[Defy General] billy0719:
the 16.1mb bin file maybe just the thing we want to ,wait fr goodnews
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
Immediately send d link to quarx maniac and eppy.....
[Defy General] niksy+:
Device ID Allocation Tool User Manual - http://wenku.baidu.com/view/65613e35a32d7375a4178041.html
[Defy General] Step666:
1) No-one in this thread is Hemil - and if anyone would know, it's me.

2) If you make fantastic claims that you have absolutely no evidence or proof to corroborate, then you really have no right to throw a tantrum when other people don't believe you.

3) Everyone needs to grow up a bit and start treating one another with a little more respect and courtesy, which is what the forum rules

that you all agreed to follow

require you to do.

This thread's usefulness is questionable enough already, if there's any more crap in here I'll lock it and that'll be that.

Also, I for one find the idea that anyone with any sort of position of influence in Motorola is using a Defy (no matter what firmware it may or may not have) and not a newer handset like the RAZR pretty implausible.
[Defy General] billy0719:
how is things going ? was the file upload?
[Defy General] kdarknight:
lmao !!

2 Questions from my side ..

1) What the fuc* is going on here ? Is everyone crazy here ? There is no such file like .bin which *harsh* is claiming to have !! :rolleyes:

2) I am newbie here but still i want to ask, what the fuc* you guys are planing to do even if you got your bootloader unlocked ? & How to check its locked or not in my rooted defy+ ?

:eek:
[Defy General] neo.ank:
I guess I'll make my phone do my laundry and dishes, even prepare dinner for me and water my plants once the BL is unlocked.

PS: If you don't have any idea 'bout the stuff.. Better be quiet..

A wise man once said,
[Defy General] hsrars-d:
The .bin file is meant to be used with TI's Flash tool.
[Defy General] billy0719:
cant agree more
[Defy General] kdarknight:
:o okay
[Defy General] neo.ank:
Any updates there buddy..
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Will update shortly devs looking into file that i sent

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[Defy General] v2dare:
Dont knw what it means ... Network Lock or BootLock ?

But im using many roms on my defy with CMW and Tweaking the best ... So not bothered about Unlocking the bootloader...
[Defy General] Leicxan:
bootlock

if the bootloader unlocked, we can use custome kernel and add more tweaks...
[Defy General] hsrars-d:
..like usb otg and more awesome stuff :D
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Guys Lets Hope For The Best Keep Ur Fingers Crossed....

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[Defy General] oSandmaNo:
Which devs?

Quarx?
[Defy General] wizwin:
Please upload the two files, I have a Defy just for testing.
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
OMAP Config Tool is Now important please look into service center if u have contacts

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[Defy General] hsrars-d:
http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/am_bu/amflashutil/latest/index_FDS.html

The .bin file goes to image file selection in the program.

User guide here: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Flash_v1.6_User_Guide
[Defy General] MotorolaDefyLuke:
does that flash tool work with OMAP 3630 though?
[Defy General] hsrars-d:
I read somewhere that it works with OMAP3, may be wrong.

I think there is no big difference in OMAP3xxx devices
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Well i dnt think this software works to flash bin file there is some other software.we are working on it

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[Defy General] hsrars-d:
Thats great if u r working on it, my suggestion was just an suggestion

:P
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
There are two softwares which will help us unlocking defy bl im working to get them through Motorola SC...

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[Defy General] Kaffeekranz:
They are all using the same API, so no, the TI one should be sufficient.

Provided we'd get the *.bin file.
[Defy General] walter79:
There is no software from ti to unlock defy. Security lock is a part from motorola. Only moto can unlock. TI gives option to lock omap36xx devices but phone manufactor have to enable it. There is a thread in TI forum about unlocking defy. Use google to find it.
[Defy General] Kaffeekranz:
Those TI tools all use the same API, they're issuing the same commands and most likely every tool Motorola has which could be of help is using them in a simplified form with a GUI strapped on top.

Of course there's no tool from TI with a nice little checkbox for unlocking OEM phones, but they could be used to write the code segments Motorola uses in a possible recovery scenario. There are a few Samsung and LG phones which use this to their advantage, for recovering from a hard brick.

So, assuming that this is the case, maybe this *.bin file includes the raw data which can be written by TI's tool to the corresponding sectors, essentially replacing our locked down boot sequence with a sequence that allows booting and running unsigned code.

Food for thought.
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Guys Please, read this http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21392707&postcount=111

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[Defy General] ksrao_iete:
good news

Waiting for good news for all of us. seriously i dont want to invest on another phone just to get USB OTG, we can get that in to our defy. hoping some more magics happening around.

Harsha : i appreciate youe effort, trying to help here for us. Ignore those noobies who think u otherway. i am Indian, i know u r seriously trying for someway get our defy unlocked or may help for other phones too..

kindly Ignore by bad english.
[Defy General] hsrars-d:
When you install TI Flash 1.6 (from my previous link)

you get a cmdline tool named OMAPFlash.exe

it has got some interesting commands inside :eek:

look at the screenshot in attachments!

I will try some commands to see if it sees my Defy in bootloader mode.
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Bro if any success let us know

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[Defy General] hsrars-d:
nothing... i guess we need the omap board config tool or some kind of config file for TI's Flash
[Defy General] Kaffeekranz:
Still waiting for the *.bin file.
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
actually im having power cut that's why im not able to send when i get power restored i"ll send the file.and one thing we have to connect our defy to omap config tool and then we have to flash the bin file after that we have to flash supporting kernel then BL will unlocked i requesting all please try to get the tool.
[Defy General] Kaffeekranz:
You seem to be online right now, so what's the problem.

This is getting a bit fishy again.
[Defy General] billy0719:
bro，may this help----http://www.ti.com.cn/general/cn/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12834&contentId=52608
[Defy General] Sir Flashalot:
Android Police: "Motorola Confirms Via Twitter That Older Devices Will Not Receive Bootloader Unlock Tools".

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ces-will-not-receive-bootloader-unlock-tools/

So, don't expect anything from Moto. May they soon go bankrupt.
[Defy General] walter79:
Release_Notes.txt

5. Supports the following devices:

AM3505, AM3517

AM3703, AM3715

DM3725, DM3730

OMAP3503, OMAP3515, OMAP3525, OMAP3530
[Defy General] billy0719:
can this help?http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Flash_v1.6_User_Guide

is this just the wanted tool?http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/am_bu/amflashutil/latest/index_FDS.html
[Defy General] hsrars-d:
At me because I did not read enough notes ._.

@Harsha cant you upload it w/ your mobile ?
[Defy General] TJKV:
Pretty sure this would come with interesting s/w tools (Zoom™ OMAP36x Mobile Development Platform), but

1. It isn't available anymore

2. Costs a lot.

Even if we did get our hands on it not sure if the tools are what we need, because only the processor is the same perhaps, the interfaces and MB are probably different.
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
.

im accesing through xda app not from pc 22hrs power cut inverter out of backup ups to running on 20%battery Left im living in a small village not metro city or town rural village in india ill try to send asap

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[Defy General] TJKV:
Was reading about it in the papers...So right now an all India limit of 5 SMSes per person for 15 days till Aug 31 and zero power to industries in AP for 15 days...terrible! Separate incidents ofc but still...
[Defy General] overclockthesun:
Sms limit increased to 20 per day now. but that is OT. I read on BBS funz .... transalated page.... that with the tool we can turn our defy into engineering mode and unlock bl. However, Our IMEI will channge to something like 00000012345. That it seems can be fixed from within the tool itself. So if we get the tool we can easily do this with help from our devs. Its a long shot but worth trying.
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Well i got an idea ill message u about this later wen u free ping me.

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[Defy General] nidhish91:
Too much fuzz but no result. I still have hopes. :/
[Defy General] MotorolaDefyLuke:
any more info on this thread? hoepfully our bootloaders will be unlocked *Fingers Crossed*
[Defy General] overclockthesun:
I read on TI support forums that we can use the tool for 3630 as if we are using one of the AM3xxx series devices.
[Defy General] Kaffeekranz:
L7iharsha seems to be constantly online and but these promised files are still nowhere to be seen.
[Defy General] m11kkaa:
It's the master-tool of motorola for unlocking and repairing(dead phones).

It's as hard as getting Windows-Sourcecode :P

So it's a wonder that we've got the 16MB-bin(board-config). But it doesn't help without the "TI OMAP Board Configure Tool". Maybe TI has this tool, but not the possibility to unlock motorola phones. I think they've modified the tool to hold a secret key. Otherwise SoC-security-features would be useless.
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
Royale 1223 or maybe someone else wrote abt this once when for the first time we came to know abt this bin file....he had said that the board was available through TI'S site and it was.d bin file which is elusive.....so now that we have the bin file(I hope so)....wouldn't it be easier to get hold of the board configuration tool.......coz I think TI is much more open to dev than moto....so the board tool can be acquired from them.....and in TI's forum Walter had posted a request but their Rep. Had instead provided him a link abt other open boards.....any help from there????...

PS... m11kkaa.....have u got ur defy back yet?????:thumbup::confused:
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
I already gave the files to dev if u need really ill pm u later

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[Defy General] Kaffeekranz:
Please do so.
[Defy General] espaciosalter20:
In the other thread about unlocking (at least one of the three that I know), someone posted a dump image of a engineer defy... don't know if anyone made a comparison of boot img of that dump with a locked one to find the chunk of the signature in order to made further computer analysis to minimize what changes are required to have a engineer defy even if we never get that bin file in an abroad and public way....

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[Defy General] Kaffeekranz:
Scholbert did, the only difference were a mere 3 bytes.

But those were consistently on every single dump, even from different unlocked devices.
[Defy General] hsrars-d:
There is a sample script for 3630 in the SampleScripts folder....

I think that it is a driver problem, omapflash cant see my device and there is no omap-usb drivers that i could find.

also, I think that there is no other S Flash OMAP3630 driver other than Motorola's
[Defy General] Sir Flashalot:
Yes, it is a message from Motorola:

01101100 01101111 01101100
[Defy General] overclockthesun:
he is online only on his cell all the time. Of you are a dev I htink he can provide you the files, if not I don't see how you can contribute to this. The devs have the files. But we are still missing the TI OMAP Board configure tool. These Moto guys are such a pain that they wont give it even for money!
[Defy General] Mario.D:
00111010 00101001
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
Ummm...that's only 2 of the three bytes there.....
[Defy General] Kaffeekranz:
He has promised those already a few days ago. Right now it doesn't seem like anyone has gotten them, so we're in our right to get suspicious.

If he'd give them out (assuming he even has them), then a lot more people could have a look at them, including me and a few others.

Make them public, or at least hand them out to people who think they can do something with them, or people like me will continue questioning your every move.

We've had enough of this trolling around here, we've had enough broken promises and we've been screwed over and over again.

Send them out, get it over with.
[Defy General] espaciosalter20:
btw: how can they (Motorola) possible know who release those files to the public?

Any of the hundreds of angry employees of that company could do it...So, I can't understand why he is so afraid to leak those files...

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[Defy General] Kaffeekranz:
I don't understand it either, and it isn't doing his credibility any favours.
[Defy General] L7iharsha:
Its not leaked by fired Motorola employees the file given to me working in Motorola if u dnt believe i cant help u i said wait if u live in my area ull know how big are power outages so just wait if u cant wait pm quarx or eppy or?m11kka.

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[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
Dude. ...It doesn't matter to any of us if u believe or not ... this is A very sensitive piece of software , one tht CAN cost people their jobs and if its scary for him to publish openly then its his wish......it has already been given to recognised devs of this forum......sorry if u r left out...!!!!!