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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] thunderising:
You people complain like kids. Xperia S will get Jelly Bean. You know what? Sony is even considering Android 5.0 update for Xperia S. ALso, the new Linux 3.6 kernel update is also in the pipeline.

Now go find another manufacturer who will give you even half of this. And all this for the Xperia S. The Xperia T is the next generation, and after than the Xperia Z.

Yet you people complain about a 2 GENERATIONS OLDER HANDSET which is still getting SOO MUCH?

INSIDER INFO

XU and XSOLA might get Jelly Bean (BETA) released for Unlocked Bootloaders next month. Hold on! (CM10 is gonna come for our devices, and so will CM10.1 eventually)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] josie87:
But the core itself is compatible between different vendors? (just a question without any intention)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] doctor_droid:
Thundersing - why dun u share ur source buddy

Kalled of sony said very clearly

That

Even if a pre release rom appears it will only b for xperia p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Anthrax:
Source for your insider INFO????? :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Asycid:
I really hope that it's true, my friend :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lee480:
How reliable is it? Source?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] saintsimon:
Edited b/c of erroneous statement.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lee480:
The problem: Galaxy Ace 2 has 768MB of RAM not 512MB. Please do not fabricate RAM size. Thanks.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] saintsimon:
Sorry, I erred on the spec and I've and deleted my statement. Mea Culpa. No "fabrication" intended, anyway.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] xangma:
It's because companies release products as fast as they can to make profit. Long gone are the days of actually supporting a product.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lee480:
I disagree. Sony is still supporting all 2012 phones with 1GB RAM plus Xperia Go.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] xangma:
Let's not get started on Sony. They're one of the worst offenders. Have a look at the rate smartphones are released and come back to me with info about how large their company would have to be to actually support all the phones they release ... and properly test the software on it.

HTC is another. They release barely tested operating systems. Motorola produce phones with great functionality and specs, but abysmal hardware. Then even if you send off your phone for repairs, and TELL them the part that needs replacing they don't even bother to listen.

Money money money.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lee480:
All 2012 phones but 4 is going to get/gotten the Jelly Bean update. There's no need to start it as Sony has a beautiful track record so far, at least for 2012 phones.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Pandemic:
Sony the worst offenders? dude come on Sony just take thier time to make a good jb without bugs and other stuff, HTC is a piece of junk because my friend have an HTC Desire for almost 2 years and he didn`t get any update and still running on GB, what for joke is that if every device have already ICS??

man if ytou start something to talk you must know alot more then that and calling Sony the worst offenders, they are in my eyes NOT the worst offenders, they have awsome designs and dont keep hang in the history like Samsung ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] percy_g2:
i have owned many brands , not seen like sony ! samsung is good but there hardware are not that good in low cost.

sony have developers website ,forums and lots of support not seen such a brand ,recently purchased xperia p and i'am satisfied with that piece have given me ! if you buy a mid range android phones ,your view will be like that! try some high end phones of sony after xperia p ,you will see the change !
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] xangma:
Sony are a multinational company that make more than phones. They are one of the worst ... just have a look at the PS3. Great design, engineering, but terrible support and then they went and sued everyone. Then they banned 3rd party controllers. ALL OF THEM. Then they refused to reimburse customers. Then they took away the ability to install Linux. Then they banned a whole bunch of PS3s from PSN. Then they do hold back open source software ... for economic gain, or at least to make people buy the newest phones.

Motorola - another example. The Atrix 4G. Besides the digitizer breaking CONSTANTLY on that phone, when taking apart, you can see it's meant to be repair friendly - only breaking into a small number of bits ... but they cut corners. Making a right angled LCD ribbon cable, instead of changing the orientation using two curves makes it ridiculously prone to ripping. It's poor hardware, and rushed design.

And in fact, I kind of wish I had gone for the Desire. I used to have one, and currently my girlfriend is running CM10.1, albeit requiring A2SD, but still. Better than our phones.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lee480:
How the **** does Sony Computer Entertainment do with Sony Mobile Communications? Both have different internal management. There's a reason why XDA gave them the OEM of the year award for their open source contribution. And how does PS3 even affect Xperia phone updates. This is a thread on Jelly Bean not PS3.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] xangma:
Chill out =S

Different internal management ... same goal - profit. But yeah, you're right PS£ dev has nothing to do with xperia dev, but I didn't know the boundaries of this discussion were so defined.

Obviously they've got great open source contributions - the whole reason I'm running JB on my XU. Oh wait.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
Regarding, the ps3 abd Linux well what did you prefer the xbox or wii that never gave the option? Listen the only reason why Linux was dropped was piracy!! It would have been easier to pirate games! Sony works on the razor blade model makes money off software! So it was justified! I stand by them. They gave us openness we abused it's power they cut that off!! Simple as that at the end of the day Sony wants to make profit!! Look at the ps4 it's dev friendly! Sony threw out billions of dollars worth research in the cell and went with a more dev friendly approach!! Tell any other company to do that!!!

End of rant!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] xangma:
Tell me why it's better to try and put the person who broke your security in prison, than in your office?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
The problem isn't the person the problem is what will happen cause of that person. Do the math in game sales and how many developers will get no return for making games! You are just looking at yourself what about those whose lively hood depends upon game sales? I'm taking developers! Game salesmen. Etc. Imaging working your *** off for a year or maybe two only to know well the game wasn't didn't sell as much as it should have! We do it for fun and stuff man. Other people's pay and jobs depend upon it! See when Sony can be flexible they are! They give out devices for us to use! Cause it doesn't affect the whole industry they're isn't any collateral damage at all!!

It's just logic and common sense. People just go on bashing Sony like anything!

Just look at falcon pro the guy didn't reach 100k sales but is out of tokens! Piracy!! Sure a few of those are the 15 minute window people but that would be 1% at max! I'm sorry but I'm against piracy and it's wrong! It's unfair to the people who spend time making something for us they deserve a return! Always!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
The xperia u can play every game on the market. It also has a rocking benchmark. Tell me a phone in this price range that gives you this awesome hardware. We will get 4.2 too. Just wait. Patience.

Peace I'm out.... ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ben Ling:
INSIDER INFO

XU and XSOLA might get Jelly Bean (BETA) released for Unlocked Bootloaders next month.

how you know?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ultracity:
We already known that, but thanks for share!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Pandemic:
Exactly, buy some peeps dont understand it well:/

And AGAIN this is whole offtopic.

Stay on topic peeps and dont compare Sony with other devices, Sony is a good company and we shall see if Sony doing a good job if they give us Jelly Bean:)

..[ Pandemic Quote..:: Face Your Insanity !!

Sent From My Own Modded Xperia P
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ItsEvo:
I hope for a Locked Bootloader version. That will be fine. :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mzr7:
Exactly! Sony is a good company they will provide you with a version of android if it is deemed to be smooth and all provided they get the sources. Otherwise you can bet on it they will support the community! So you will get the next version of android be it officially or unofficially!! Relax have patience. :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Pandemic:
+1

Totally agreed with that, and peeps if you think negative about Sony, do it then in yourself, im true to Sony and use thier products like 8 years or longer :)

But keep it on topic to discusse about JB;)

Peace

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] xangma:
Ah the rule of XDA again. So now I'm not allowed to compare Sony products to other products, or even to other Sony products. And also, I'm not allowed to challenge the inherent belief that Sony is a "good" company.

Great "discussion". Not a very useful thread if all we can discuss about JB is a RUMOUR that it might be being tested for a device. Hardly requires a whole thread about it, does it? And if there's not enough news to justify a thread, how can it possibly justify a discussion? Especially a discussion with such harsh boundaries.

How long have I been a continued member/contributer here? Over 5 years now? Following at least 5 different devices through the years. I've watched this place evolve into what it is today, and whilst this may be one of the largest mobile phone communities on the web, the commonly held belief that these forums are going slightly haywire are becoming apparent.

I won't post in a discussion thread again. You people obviously don't want discussion.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MadManMark:
Its really frustrating to come on here and read posts like this, I understand some people here aren't very well informed but your ignorance.. The reason the P, U, Sola & Go dont have CM10 or JB ROMs isnt Sony's fault, they need ST-Ericsson who make the NovaThor processor are to blame, and Sony can't do anything about that, so you need to sit your impatient ass down and wait for JB to come to P and Go, then you can get JB ROM's.

---------- Post added at 04:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:28 PM ----------

Going on a rant about Playstation is irrelevant to this thread, that's what people are saying. Go to an off-topic discussion forum for that
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MadManMark:
NovaThor chips are cheaper, and they brought dual core performance to lower end phones, you're making out like Sony really screwed us over when they put this chipset in, i don't think that's the case. Don't judge the whole of Sony by this one thing.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] srprashant91:
thats immaterial because with no sources i feel the whole idea of open source is lost. the xperia p/u/go/sola threads seem so dead. i feel sorry for the devs.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Vaste92:
Sony has just released JB source for Xperia J! Next is P, hope so!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Patrol619:
Odp: Jelly Bean for Xperia P, U, Sola & Go Discussion

Yes? Give us some link ;)

Xperia sola@Tapatalk 2
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] diaramja:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/dow...es/open-source-archive-for-build-11-2-a-0-21/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Vaste92:
Here are the sources:

http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/xperia-open-source-archives/open-source-archive-for-build-11-2-a-0-21/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nickholtus:
Only kernel sources, nothing new, we just have to wait, and if we are lucky we will get an alpha/beta release and a final 2 weeks later
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Vaste92:
Yes, I've seen! But I think is the new 3.4 kornel, isn't it? (I'm just curious)

By the way it means the release is near and that they're officially working on it. ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Pandemic:
Yes thats correct about the kernel. I gues ;)

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] xangma:
http://www.andromods.com/news/android-41-jelly-bean-cm10-minimum-hardware-requirements.html

Well it certainly meets the requirements. It can run ICS. What's the issue? ST Ericsson/Sony won't release the sources, if I'm not mistaken?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kangi26:
Lets get back on topic please

Cleaned thread
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
The thing about Xperia J is that it's a different chip then NovaThor. Don't you think so?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] srprashant91:
The sources for phones based on qualcomm chipsets are abundant and as a result even my older phone like the galaxy mini has a working 4.2 port.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] thunderising:
That will most probably happen for the Xperia U and Xperia SOLA next Month itself

(internal sources info)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] srprashant91:
proof of your source bro?? :P :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nickholtus:
Most likely not, as the u and sola won't get is officially
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] snaky90:
Xperia TX, Xperia J and Xperia E has had new firmware version certified (JB firmwares) http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/02/2...xperia-j-xperia-tx-xperia-e-appears-on-ptcrb/

What about the Xperia P? Do not be updated with the Xperia J?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nickholtus:
nope, totally different specs.

Dont get hope that we will get it before the end of march
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] thunderising:
exactly, but it's not that Sony didn't even try to get JB working on SOLA and U. They did develop, but they won't complete it. They'll release a beta, of however much they've developed. No final release.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Slajder:
Yeah, right... and I'm pretty sure they'll start working on android 5 instead of porting 4.1 to xperia u and sola. I had an extremely negative opinion about JB port until i realized I woke up in neverland...

I mean wtf, they cant even port latest versions of ICS, even though .75 was certified months ago, some carriers don't even have ICS update and you think that they would care enough to release JB beta for these phones. They clearly said that there would be no JB update for these phones, so... What are they waiting for if they stopped working on it? Maybe some special opening or maybe some special date like 01.04.2013?

If we are not getting JB, and we are not :D, then don't really expect beta versions for these models.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lee480:
And if Sony releases Alpha ROMs for Sola and U, a lot of users will start demanding for a full release.

And I highly doubt Xperia Sola and U will get Android 5.0 from Sony. Most likely ICS forever. Unless Sony changes their mind and decides to upgrade. Haha.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] thunderising:
And if the release do happens buy be a few beers okay?

Anyways, they are most probably working on Android 5.0 (will work) for the Xperia S but not for the P/GO
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Vaste92:
Just for curiosity:

the sources released for J are 3.4 kernel with ION enabled.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Nevareht:
So JB for Xperia will come after all :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Wiplive:
Won't buy another Sony device again if they won't release for Xperia U. I mean come on, J with 5x more **** specs gets it, Xperia U & Sola not...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lee480:
Nope. Xperia J consumes less RAM, resulting in a slightly smoother environment. Not really about raw CPU performance this time.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] RyomaEchizen:
But... Is the RAM an excuse?

My X8 can run JB and only has approx 200MB.

Enviado desde mi ST25a usando Tapatalk 2
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] percy_g2:
the main thing is CPU

xperia j have

Qualcomm MSM7227A Snapdragon and as you know qualcomm is best in open source field ,therefore update for xperia j is fast
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] RyomaEchizen:
So.. the RAM is not the problem, right?. Only the Novathor

Enviado desde mi ST25a usando Tapatalk 2
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Pandemic:
No! ram space is important and Xperia U and Sola have no 1gb ram so thats why they cant have JB, and novathor chip is cheap but works also good enough on Xperia P:)

..[ Pandemic Quote..:: Face Your Insanity !!

Sent From My Own Modded Xperia P
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] hell_lock:
Samsung S advance has the same hardware of Sola but still got JB official
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] blackkzero:
I think ram is not the problem, because I was running jb from nAa in my old xperia x10 mini and works pretty good. I hope they release the sources soon
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MadManMark:
Your X8 doesnt do it with a Sony configuration though, just because maybe cm10 can be smooth, a stock release from Sony is another story
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] doctor_droid:
Sony will release jb for p go in late march right??
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] espaciosalter20:
It had been said a million times: ram doesn't matter, it's more about SoC and processor thing.

Enviado desde mi XT890 usando Tapatalk 2
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nickholtus:
Its a combination, mali 400 in soc uses a lot of ram

Also the soc is slow
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] percy_g2:
yup
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Pandemic:
This is no Samsung forum and Samsung is in my way 10.000 times a piece of junk.

And Sony and Samsung are 2 whole different companies, Sony take thier time and Samung want to fast that is why Samsung have the same design of all thier devices. Lol

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Sent From My Own Modded Xperia P
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nickholtus:
and s advance has more ram then the sola
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Tobber1981:
It really doesn't matter wether Sony releases JB for XPU or not.

As soon as XPP gets the JB-Update it will be ported for XPU or at least used to build CM 10...

CM9 runs way smoother on my XPU than any stock rom so for me it's just a question of time!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] doctor_droid:
Aren't there any kernel patches to allocate less ram to the gpu??
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] thunderising:
I don't know, but that would not work out as GPU performance in rendering (games) would decrease
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ultracity:
Jb will arrive soon for Xperia P. Will we get a port for Xperia U, developers?

Thanks.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
Yess surely... :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sephot:
Hope it will be port to X sola ! :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
Of course even sola gets it... :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Anthrax:
its just a matter of time till JB is released for P or Go and then our devs will get it working for XSOLA & U..... :fingercrossed:

:D:)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
Yeah... :) :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lastsamuraial:
Guys,any info that XP owners would get another OS update after JB 4.1.2?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
I don't think so...

It will handle 4.2 unofficially but not official.. :(

But no 4.2 unofficially because no sources... :( :( :'(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lastsamuraial:
Yeah,the crappy novathor.:(.XP would have been an great phone if it was going to have different CPU.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] percy_g2:
In future sources will be there, FXP can do 4.2.2

if s advance gets 4.2.2 official then XP will also get it :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Vaste92:
Cm10.1 for s advance is under developing. It's in alpha stage, though.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] percy_g2:
i will try to contact s advance dev's bout this and FXP

i'am bit busy in my college work ,i will try to build CM 10 after official JB

we can get something from s advance git tree

NOTE :- i'am new to this stuff don't expect any thing :(

Xperia p,go have better future in dev
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lastsamuraial:
This is absolutely great.:victory:.But,no chances for an android 5.0 on Xperia P?:(.I think that 4.1.2 will be the last official update that Sony will give to us.They build a lot a phones in one single year and the competition between phones is very high.

I love to much my phone since the first time i saw it,now i think that it could have been bettern an XS......I was a bit disappointed later after known its type of CPU,not supported by anyone,only a few ROM-s with a little to choose.XP would have been great if he had an Qualcomm.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] percy_g2:
xperia p me out of box in GB ,now running ICS and in april JB ,you can have better hopes with this device .

XS is better but costly .After official JB ,i think FXP will start CM 10 and CM 10.1

about android 5.0 ,its not yet launched so hopes are low but may be case is there !

FXP build for all xperia devices ,time will tell what we can get
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lastsamuraial:
I bought my XP for 320 euro in Germany,XS costed 470 euro back then and i didnt think twice.Both phones look the same on design but totally different from inside and i forgot specs when i bought my P.Anyway...lets hope and wish that our devs won't abandon XP.:good:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tadeas482:
FXP won't do CM10.1. They announced it on their G+ community.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] percy_g2:
link?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tadeas482:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/108994158194013348435/posts/cqv5oGhrM27
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] percy_g2:
but s advance is having cm 10.1 development

lets wait some dev will do it
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tadeas482:
But I'm pretty sure, that when the sources are out we will soon have CM10.1 because there are other skilled developers.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] percy_g2:
s advance tree can be used for some sources ,cm 10.1 can boot
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nickholtus:
but it doesn't and i am not going to try it too, till we have jellybean from sony
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] percy_g2:
same here waiting for sources from sony and i have asked s advance cm 10.1 dev to help us ,waiting for his reply on that
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nickholtus:
the biggest problem is the mali gpu, using the cm10.1 zip from s advance gis giving me a gpu error and using the one from my cm10 rom gives me an errror about incompatibility
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] percy_g2:
Pm me the details about that error !

did you ask someone for help about that?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
For the guy who talked about Android 5.0 for Xperias, I read that the Snapdragon S3 phones (S,SL, Ion, Acro S) will also get it. Not sure if true or not. Came from a source that has given solid info before.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lee480:
Yup. Rumours says S3 processors phone might get upgraded to Android 5.0 but NovaThor might have their last update, Jelly Bean 4.1 due to STE not releasing sources to Sony. Can't really blame Sony.

However it's still a rumour.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] thunderising:
Solid info it is! Android 5.0 can be developed only when the chipset manufacturer helps out with drivers (Qualcomm is), not if they don't (ST-Ericsson isn't)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] cthulhu1987:
I'm thinking about buying a Sony Xperia E with Jelly Bean, is there a way to root it? Sry for the n00b question, but I'm not very experienced in this OTL
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
You know Xperia E is a low end phone, right? The ones in this section are mid...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] cthulhu1987:
That's a proof for me being a n00b, since I didn't. Do you know, were I can ask, if there's a way to gain root access on a Sony Xperia E with Jelly Bean, it'd be great!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
Xperia E, Tipo, Miro section.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] cthulhu1987:
You mean this section here: "Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J"?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] abs3600:
updation

sony has conformed tha in all of these divices on xperia p will get a jelly bean update

and u, go and sola will be left with ics only
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
Correction:

The crappy Go will get JellyBean.