yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD General] pitastrudl:
here you will find the best ones, arhd, icecold etc. i doubt you can get better. my dhd, which is in the possession of my brother runs ARHD and after 5 months it still runs lag free. also i so dont trust some random sites from random developers

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Desire HD General] nlooooo:
Can someone explain to me what means a kang of xda rom? Kang of AOKP (android open KANG project)? All roms here are KANGs of some manufactorer rom or source build of android, which is somebody else's work. I had a debate once with a few great developers that were crying 'don't use my rom' asking them what rom did they use? Most of them are just jelous on some guy/gitl that took their rom and made it better.

The point of xda is developing and sharing, not stoping of knowledge.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
True.

I meant it in the sense that they passed the rom as their own work when it was merely a copy.

There have been many discussions regarding the ethics... Which can be read in the rule section on how to go about posting work (which is for roms posted here on xda - which is good practice.)

However, we have now deviated from the original premise.

On a side note, can anyone explain lists, motion, collisions and reflections, velocity, iteration (is that for loops?) and dictionaries?

I'm doing it in python, but if you can explain the concepts.... I'll be able to stop banging my head.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
Many of the kernels used also tend to not be GPL-compliant, as in, they don't post their kernel sources.

Lists: most languages provide some way of saving a list-like data structure. Kind of like arrays, they aren't ordered (unless you order them yourself) and are flat (2d).

Motion, collisions, reflections, velocity: these are all physics concepts. You'd only really be working with them if you were programming something physics-based, like, say, a game physics engine.

Iteration: yes, its' for loops. Essentially, you go through all the items one at a time (which is what the word iterate means) and do whatever it is with the item that you need to do.

Dictionaries: I'm not sure about what the term is used for in a programming context.
[Desire HD General] nlooooo:
I understand your point of view to some point, but when we talk about ethics where we can put people asking donation to continue work on something or for buying the device so they can 'develop' for it?

But to cut the c**p, we all have our oppinion, and it's all good while it's not the same. :good:
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
Like Tei said, it is usually courteous to at least credit the original developer before posting a derivative of his/her work as your own. That has nothing to do with developing and sharing, and it certainly doesn't stop knowledge. Additionally, XDA is for development, but within certain rules. And one thing XDA needs to respect if it doesn't want to get itself in legal trouble is the licenses under which code is published. Kernels are GPL; downstream code needs to be GPL as well. The Android OS is Apache; downstream code does not need to be open source, but it does need to be credited.

And I don't find asking for donations unethical. Lying about malware in your ROM is unethical. Asking for donations is just asking; if someone doesn't want to donate, they don't have to donate.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
I'll come back with concrete examples once I figure out how to ask the correct question :D

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] glevitan:
I don't get the point in here. Donations and kanging are way too different. You can ask for a donation and people might donate to you if they feel that you have been helpful or just feeling generous.

Kanging is about cheating. You use someone else's job and post it as your own. It is just like in college, if you are based on someone else's theory it is just fine to start working from there but publishing or posting something as your own work that is just wrong.

Besides, not all dev's are willing to share their work with others and thou I don't share that, has to be respected. This is about development by developers, not about users and people demanding dev's to make their phones "cool". Those are the rules and you are told that when you sign in. Custom roms in XDA site are always trustable and you will never get stiffed but that doesn't happen with other sites or roms. That is why this site has a great prestige. You always know what you are getting.

Anyway, ethics is about doing the "correct" thing regarding the social norms or the acceptable social norms. Asking for a donation is accepted in here and therefore does not go against the rules. Stealing others work does and therefore not allowed. Simple as that...:good:
[Desire HD General] nlooooo:
First of all I didn't say it's the same, but that I came in contact with a pretty bad examples of both.

I already said that we all have opinion that shouldn't be the same, and mine is that the line of intellectual property comes in the grey zone of your mentioned 'social norms or the acceptable social norms'. Everything that makes our life better, easier and prettier should be free and available of use by any mean.

But we're trolling somebody's thread... :silly:
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
You are free to troll as long as we are trolling as well and none of the other team members are offended.

As long as everyone keeps it nice and clean, respectful and all that, feel free to talk as much as you want.

There are only a few who remember the original OP.... Hahahaahhaa..... Those were the days.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
I do remember :)

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
I strongly disagree. Like any other property, IP takes someone time and money to create, and that person deserves to get paid (or else he isn't making any more). Nearly every country understands that and respects IP at this point. It's not a grey social norm, it's the law. And I also do not agree that just because something makes your life better, easier, or prettier makes you entitled to receive it for free. If that were true everything would be free. Everything worth paying for makes someone better off somehow; that's why it's worth paying for.
[Desire HD General] nlooooo:
And now a few questions for you:

Is 'slide to unlock' IP?

Is a phone with rounded edges IP?

And there are numerous similar question, that's why I said that some things about IP come into the grey zone.

I don't think that paying makes anything better, if we become just a little smarter everything can became free. The point of developing shoud be the improvement of life in general, not making money to a certain groups.

Try to find and watch 2 films called 'Pyramid of waist' and 'Zeitgeist' you may become a little more open minded.
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
I don't think you're understanding my point. I don't disagree that IP has given rise to some pretty pointless litigation, but that's true of just about any area of law. But IP as a whole is not a gray area.

And I'm also not saying that payment makes things better. I'm saying that people pay for things because they think that those things are worth something. Otherwise they wouldn't pay for it and the creator would stop making it, or be less likely to invent it in the future. That's how economies work; creators need to eat. And admittedly, for some things (silly Apple patents for example), so what? Someone else could make it. For others, that's a pretty big loss.

I also don't see why the point of developing should be the improvement of life in general; it's not for us to decide the point of developing. The developer will develop for his own purposes of his own decision, and if we reap the benefits for free or for pay, that's our decision. It's not for us to decide what the developer's purpose sould be.

Finally, I also don't see why developing for the improvement of life is necessarily exclusive of making money for the creator. If we don't pay creators who need to eat and have roofs over their heads, they stop creating and we stop reaping those benefits (for which IP, like any other benefits, aren't always free but are still benefits merely in that they exist in the world and can be gotten).

Developers need to eat. We want their stuff. We need to pay for their stuff if we want them to keep making it. It's just that simple.
[Desire HD General] nlooooo:
And again, all that you said goes about money...

It can be even simpler, but we're blind besides our healty eyes...

Different opinions, birth of philosophy, birth of a common sense, but mixed with beyond ideals and visions.

Don't even try to break my urge to dream... But once, it won't be all about money...
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
Yeah...I'm not disputing that that sounds like a lovely world. I'm a realist, so my instinctive reaction is that, unfortunately, the reality just doesn't work like that. But I don't think anyone will dispute that that sounds like a lovely dream.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Good arguments from both of you. If I may make a suggestion. Take a few hours, do some research on the topics being discussed and then come back and continue.

For example (not intended to take either side)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Ju0eM5T2c
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
Probably more like a few days...I'm taking a 4-day midterm in about half an hour.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Holy ....., good luck MissB. However, you don't need it. You'll do good.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] Samsunginfuser96:
I've one off topic question. If I were to install another recovery on my phone, would the methods be the same as putting the first on?
[Desire HD General] rgurung86:
Method would be the same to install any recovery or flash any ROM... few options would be different in different recovery

Don't be shy hit Thanks if I was of any help !!!
[Desire HD General] q:):
Hi everyone. q:) here.

I was wondering if any of you can give me a hand with my phone.

A couple of days ago my phone stopped being able to connect to the internet. I can make and receive calls and I can connect to wifi. However, I can not connect to the 3G network anymore. I thought it was my network provider, however their network appears to be working.

I have checked APN settings and made recommended changes, with no luck.

I thought it might be my SIM card and had it replaced, with still no success.

Now I think it could either be that my radio (firmware? file) is corrupted or else my radio hardware is faulty.

To test the radio (firmware) theory I used method noted in post #776 (thanks).

I re-flashed radio but still can't connect to internet with mobile service provider's network. :(

Can any of you shed some light on this for me?

Thanks in advance!

q:)

DNA - The Code of biological life.
[Desire HD General] chrisb906:
Its not bananas fault that the world is that way. Its human nature. And unfortunately money will always be the root of all evil. It's your choice if you wanna donate. But don't be all pod when the Dev decides to quit his deving cuz he can't afford it. This developing site is for ppl that are adamant about developing and the others are here to reap the benefits? Let's be real here.
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
Does anyone want to maintain the index thread? I'm probably not going to be able to keep it up much longer. I'm taking two major end-of-law-school exams, the MPRE and the bar, in the coming months, so I'm not going to be around here much.

Be warned that few people actually read the OP where I ask everyone to PM me updates instead of posting in the thread, so you'll need to check the thread itself every now and then. (This is a big part of why I'm not going to be able to do it anymore.)
[Desire HD General] chrisb906:
Good luck on passing the bar. I hear its tuff

---------- Post added at 12:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:46 PM ----------

Which type of law? If u don't mind me asking.....
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Does it happen with any rom? If yes then no idea.

Good luck sweetheart.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] q:):
I think things went bad after I'd tried a trainwreck 4.4 alpha and noticed problems with wifi then re flashed 4.2.2 versions. Around a week later my radio started going flakey and I lost internet. Could it be a RIL problem?

DNA - The Code of biological life.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Logcat the error.

Use a service like pastebin to place the logcat.

Sent from a dream.

Edit:

Did you test the sim card in a different phone?

[RADIO] HTC Desire's Family RIL Packages [15 SEP 2011] The thread is over two years old but may give some ideas.

Manual: Maintaining and modding the HTC Desire HD
[Desire HD General] q:):
I contacted my mobile provider and requested them to reprovision my service. The problem turned out to be at their end and not my phone at all!

Mobile data is a happening thing once again! Woo hoo! :)

DNA - The Code of biological life.
[Desire HD General] GuyInTheCorner:
Bump.

Merry Christmas!

WARNING: SONG IS NSFW, HAS OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE. OPEN AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AYQJhkxB9JA&desktop_uri=/watch?v=AYQJhkxB9JA

-Sent from Guy's phone via Tapatalk

>Sammy Note 10.1: stock, no root

>Sammy S3 stock, no root
[Desire HD General] loyonyart:
Hey Guys,

I´m using Jellytime 4.2 R11 and the Clockworkmodrecovery, but I don´t want to use CWM anymore, because everytime I shut the dhd down and charge it, it automatically boots in the Recovery.

I've downloaded the GooManager and tried to install twrp, but if I start the recovery there's not twrp but cwm, it's the same with 4ext, I downloaded the app and installed the recovery, but if I boot in the recovery there's still cwm.

Can anybody tell me how to uninstall cwm and how to install twrp or 4ext?
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
A bit early but merry christmas bub. Remember, road trip.

For the rest the same. Enjoy your time with friends and family, pets and loved ones.

Have a merry christmas.

And since we are doing this a week early, next week we'll wish a happy new year, right guy? ;)

Perhaps flash a ruu. S-off I presume.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] sridharkettavan:
Friends i downloaded cwm recovery.zip renamed it as PD98IMG.i copied it in sd card.when i presses hboot,finally it says model ID incorrect,update fail...friends please help me....i dont know what to do...
[Desire HD General] Gizmoe:
Your zip file must contain correct android-info.txt and the recovery.img. look for a zip file you know works and use the text file from that.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Merry Christmas dear friends. Lots of love.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] hasbyduryea:
sorry if iam completely a noob..

but i found a contradiction..

first you said "There is NO need to have S-OFF to flash custom roms. Take into consideration that S-OFF is not the

same as ENG S-OFF, which is the Engineering HBOOT that allows flashing images from fastboot

(CMD) commands."

and then you said this "The first thing you gotta do in order to flash a custom rom is check that you are S-OFF and have a

custom recovery (CWM or 4ext)."

i little confused here.. the one thing you said different is ENG S-OFF and S-OFF.. but above, it's a same s-off.. honestly i just want to flash an ICS custom rom.. if i want to flash it, do i need that "s-off"? if yes, how do i "s-off' my phone? thanks for helping me..
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
DW

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38543349

What you say is true, just ignore it. S-off is not necessary.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] hasbyduryea:
wow, awesome.. there's a lot of tutorial, now i got it..

with s-on, you can flash custom rom, but your phone wouldn't boot properly, unless you flash boot.img via fastboot or your current boot.img is somehow match with your new rom..

with s-off, you can flash custom rom and enjoy directly..

seems like s-off is somehow make it easier for exploring roms.. but the problem is to gained that s-off.. thanks.. :o
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=43680717

Perhaps that will work.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] hasbyduryea:
Like i said earlier, i just want to flash a custom and the tutorial is GREAT.. Very helpful, but need "little" more detail.. :victory:

just like, you must have HTCdev account, because you like it or not, you "need" it..

and the other is, i need to update my HBoot, i can't get my token before i upgrade my Hboot.. I found one that's working, Here it is. little file and a few steps.. and now i'm in ICS.. if only i can donate to, i will.. but i don't have any account not paypal nor credit card.. whenever you, devs, come to my city, just call me, i'll guide you and give some tea.. :o thanks.
[Desire HD General] chrisb906:
what is the most new hboot of the htc inspire?
[Desire HD General] KidCarter93:
Thread Cleaned

As you'll notice, the last few posts in here needed to be cleared out because this kind of situation shouldn't be happening.

Let me just quickly clear a few things up:

*Don't expose PMs in public (unless you have the permission of the other member) because they're private messages for a reason.

*If you have an issue with a PM or post which someone has made, please use the report button to bring it to our attention. Responding in kind will do you no favours.

*Always be nice and polite to each other. We're supposed to be a community so we should all act as such at all times.

*Always search for your answers before asking in a thread (or asking a member via PM). After all, searching is part of the Forum Rules.

Hopefully that's cleared things up but if you have any questions regarding this post or why your post was deleted, please contact me via PM and I'll be happy to explain :)

Regards,

- KidCarter93

Forum Moderator
[Desire HD General] aboalghool:
Dude i saw something i didn't understand...

1st of all i did the unlock bootloader via htcdev ... so i'm following the steps you are giving but i don't seem to understand

in number 1 the attached zip downloaded is the same as the ROM.zip you mean??
[Desire HD General] Gizmoe:
Yes you need to extract the boot.img and flash it manually via fastboot. You also need to flash whatever Rom through recovery. Recovery can't write to the boot partition without s off so every Rom you flash you will have to 1 flash it through recovery and 2 pull the boot img and flash it via fastboot.
[Desire HD General] pitastrudl:
Hey guys, how are you all? Im helping out a friend, and im just curious, if you're softbricked, and you want to flash a ruu, you put to fastboot or just bootloader?
[Desire HD General] Gizmoe:
Fastboot.
[Desire HD General] Wacky_Wabbit:
Doesn't want to wake up

Hi

After almost 2 years I have gotten back to my old DHD. I thought of trying out one of those kitkat roms. Tried taktik at first and that's when the problems started coming up. Everything works fine, but whenever the phone will go in standby mode / screen-off it just will not wake up again. Only thing you can do is pull out the battery.

Funny thing is whenever it goes into that sort of coma, if I put a SIM in the phone and call it, it rings. Well not the phone itself, it just looks dead, but on the caller's side we can clearly hear the calling tone, signalling that the radio is well alive and responding to being called etc. Another funny thing is, whenever it is connected to a PC via USB this problem doesn't occur. Everything works fine, it doesn't go into a coma. However if it is plugged to the charger then it just goes 'Sleeping beauty'.

Things I tried:

1) I had an old radio 26.09.04.11_M2 and thought I'd flash a more recent one to see if it works out and ensure it isn't the radio messing up. New radio 26.17.14.11_M

2) Thought it was a problem due to the ROM, however on the ROM thread people had different issues, all of which had been patched one way or another, and after re flashing everything following a clean wipe etc... , it was still the same.

3) Ditch that ROM and tried SchutzhundAOKP. Same thing still happening.

So I'm wondering , what am I doing wrong here ?

Please note that I have S-OFF since the last time I used the phone, 2 years ago, and still got the old AAHK and the Effen manual, so that's how old I am in respect to DHD developments, and If there is something new that happened since them that may be the root of my issues, it'll be really awesome to get some pointers.

Thanks,

Le Lapin Malin
[Desire HD General] pitastrudl:
hey :), i would recommend to flash another kernel but there is no kk kernel out yet. did you fullwipe before flashing? you should consult with the developer of the rom

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
http://i.imgur.com/6KQCx89.jpg
[Desire HD General] kogadin:
Hey guys my friends DHD is in a boatloop it stays at the bootsplash HTC logo. When I boot into bootloader it checks a few images and says wrong or no Img. The phone was not rooted or unlocked. It was stock. I tried everything I found online. Nothing helped. Some help would really be appreciated.
[Desire HD General] pitastrudl:
Do a factory reset in bootloader, then flash the correct RUU with fastboot. Search trough this thread :)
[Desire HD General] kogadin:
I tried the factory reset option it just goes back to the bootsplash. If I provide you with the necessary information can you link me the correct RUU? If yes what information do you need for that?
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
You can find the list of ruu's in the second thread in the general section of the dhd

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36580051

Which one to pick? Beats me. Do make sure to pick the correct one.

Make sure the md5 checksum matches before flashing. The md5 checks the file integrity.
[Desire HD General] kogadin:
Ok so one more question how am I supposed to flash the RUU with those exe when I can't turn on the phone?
[Desire HD General] pitastrudl:
as i said, you run the RUU on pc when the phone is in fastboot and connected to PC
[Desire HD General] GuyInTheCorner:
Knock knock, anyone home?

Also, G I have a question for you
[Desire HD General] pitastrudl:
sure, always on xda, spend about 3-4 hours per day ^^. Gave my old Desire HD to my younger brother. Still running the latest ARHD and its still working like it was from day 1. It's a rare sight that my old DHD is still ticking and never been on any kind of repairs after 3 whole years. I'm running a S4 with slimkat on it, really happy with the big jump from the DHD. So whats up?
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
I get in every few days to check the dev section. I see some of the group still posting around the threads but not in here, so maybe it will be best if you send G a direct message.

Glad to see you are still around.
[Desire HD General] glevitan:
Hey guys. I have changed my cell a few times. I am running a Note 3 now.

Been quite busy lately. Just shoot buddy, will see if a I can reply.
[Desire HD General] chrisb906:
Hey glev. Can u help this guy ?

War machine

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=821973
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
I'm still around. Just don't have the time to check in as much anymore. I got a Nexus 5 and haven't even rooted it...
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
I'm around here too.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Online Learning: A Bachelor's Level Computer Science Program Curriculum

http://blog.agupieware.com/2014/05/online-learning-bachelors-level.html
[Desire HD General] zoranb:
inappropriate locale settings

Can one encounter issues when having different locale settings than the country one is living in to? Say for example i live in Greece and i have Australian English & NewZealand English locale settings!
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Not that I know of. Sometimes I choose UK english and I live in a spanish speaking country. Then again, what kind of issues are you refering to?
[Desire HD General] zoranb:
I have no clue, perhaps language issues, spelling or to be frank i don't know what, it just sees strange to have so many English versions (Australian, NewZealand etc.) there must be some reason, that one must not tamper with! I dont know i just want to be safe. ;) Do you catch my drift?