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[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
Ahhh...I started out on most forums as crogs571 because oddly enough, when aol started, crogs was taken real quick which is odd since there aren't many last names out there that start with that. Somehow on androidforums I chose dbpaddler after using it on slickdeals and it seemed to stick. Stands for dragonboat paddler so I'm sure there are a few of them roaming around. More info than you needed. I'd change it to crogs if that was allowed. Should be less of them.

I haven't popped it open yet. Figure there will be a complete tear down soon to see what's what. Sprint rep also said that it should be bootloader unlocked from the get go, and that the whole process was unnecessary. Haven't ventured there yet either.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
removed
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] KitsunePaws:
If you go back a few pages I snapped a photo of the phone with the back off, well I had somebody do it for me given it's my only camera :P.

I think the Sprint rep lied to you, If you turn your phone off and power up with Vol+ Vol- and Power, AP Flash mode shows "Device is LOCKED. Status Code: 0"

I can hop on tonight and/or can setup a nix box for ssh to adb. I don't have my bootloader unlocked though, not sure if that matters.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
Saw that, but we want to know what lies underneath the white. That requires removing that little warranty voiding sticker, no? Not that it really matters. Guess I gave the rep a little too much credit.

I'd hop on and help the rooting cause tonight, but outside of basic adb skills, I'd have to be walked through it all.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] wingzeroismine:
I'm taking a train home shortly but am going to a sprint store to see if they can swap my phone out due to the screen markings. Regardless of whether or not I get it swapped out tonight I can probably be able to assist you guys in some way.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Puzzlegal:
I'm really curious why they bothered to install radios to use overseas and then locked down the sim so no one will actually use it (except by mistake, and those people will be really passed at sprint when they get home and see their bill.)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] KitsunePaws:
Motorola PHOTON Q is Business Ready with full corporate security including remote wipe, pin lock, and data encryption. It is one of several devices available with Sprint Professional Grade, a new designation for select smartphones that deliver enhanced security, device management and Exchange Active Sync capabilities to business users.

Corporations/Businesses will pay it.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
I manage our sprint corporate account. No we won't. Everyone that travels for work or pleasure, I give them the Photon sans sim and tell them to put a prepaid one in when they land. If anyone picks up this phone, I won't let them leave the country with it outside of Canada and Mexico. I feel worse for the naive casual traveler who doesn't know any better and comes home to a $500+ phone bill because they didn't know any better, thought they were on wifi and so on.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
Well with the new bill shock guidelines, the chances of it are slimmer then before but obviously not out of the question. Realistically though I don't understand why international roaming is so over priced. The carriers say it is based on what they negotiate but I find it hard to believe. Unless the carriers negotiate a flat price, so that the carrier needs to milk the few users more to make up for it? idk :/
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] AllBlaxx:
Putting "World Phone" on a list of a phone's specs gets a lot of attention from people who travel yet don't know any better. They might not leave the country more than once every year (or even every two years) but telling them they have a world phone means a lot to them even if they don't know what it actually means LOL.

Someone in another thread removed the battery and discovered that there's no "SIM card" in the phone but an approximation of a SIM right on the mainboard. He's yet to post pictures so he could be mistaken but I'm losing hope of getting this phone up here :(
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
I wonder if this is the same embedded sim card that Apple pushed for and got GSMA approval. If this is the case it might be possible to reprogram the sim card. Though I don't know what the requirements are for reprogramming a SIM. Like does it require you to physically go to the carrier or just install a software and enter some numbers. If it requires you to take it to the carrier it might work if you visit modern countries and do it at full sized stores. But would be bad for places that are behind technologically or at kiosks and 3rd party branches.

But I guess we will have to wait and see for some pictures.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] KitsunePaws:
New thread ;)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
Yea it sucks there isn't a sim option for world users but I sold 3 of these today and made sure i mentioned to them that if they went out of the country that they wouldnt be able to use another sim like the original photon and they all pretty much said "I'm not buying it to travel the world I just want a decent phone with a keyboard"

Its a beast for the average user who desires a keyboard for android. One guy did say he travels a lot outside the country but he said that he just buys a temp phone overseas for about 20 american bucks that even with his photon it was the same price of getting a sim overseas and activating it for the photon because the cheap phones over there come with minutes. So the end cost is the same
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] LexLuger82:
Rma ?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] wingzeroismine:
Return merchandise authorization. Pretty much it came defective, I brought it to a sprint store and they swapped it out for a new one. Sadly the first store I went to was a franchise and since it was purchased online they couldn't help me. Then I drove 30 minutes to find a corporate store and they were able to swap it out. I however had to spend over an hour standing there while they struggled to activate the new one. The guy was very nice and friendly even though I was there for 30 minutes AFTER they closed too.

Ah well, the joys of having first world problems. Now that I have a new and seemingly non defective phone I'll be able to unlock its bootloader and finally contribute to the rooting cause!

I did say I'd be around last night but the store took much longer then expected and I just went to sleep when I got home.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
Anyone else have a gap between the casing edge and the glass? The right side of the phone has a gap I can run my fingernail in that is already collecting dust. I think I'm returning/exchanging this one.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] wingzeroismine:
Like every phone with a bezel around the screen has a small gap, but it is usually evenly distributed around the edges of the screen. I can put my nail along the edge too.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] tetrabyt:
Yeah. I got that too
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
Yes. I understand that. I've owned a phone or two before. But the tolerances were much tighter on previous phones including the og Photon and my Epic. Seeing dust build up in there in less than two days is not comforting and annoying to look at. I can imagine dust working its way in over time. Didn't the Hero or Evo have dust under the screen issues?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] jefbal99:
I wish I could, but I won't have access to the phone until next week. I really hope that someone can step up and help out.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] XxReApErxX:
Yeah, if you really need a phone with a keyboard this is the best choice for now...

Regarding updates, HTC and Samsung are quicker releasing them, that's a fact.

When did I say ICS sucks? I even think GB is good enough for me, but we all know JB is better, and having to wait 1 year for an ICS update for my MoPho makes me think Motorola does not care too much about their customers.

Oh and I was not trying to give real arguments of why I don't like this phone more than the MoPho 4g, if you ask me I would say I don't like the non-removable battery (as far as I know the battery life is not that good, taking you away the chance to use a spare battery is not a good move) and the non-removable SIM card (if you go to another country you would not be able to use another carrier as you can do with the Photon 4g, am I wrong?).

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[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] KitsunePaws:
The Epic 4G released Aug 31st 2010. Froyo didn't come till end of Feb 2011 (Released June 2010). Gingerbread in Nov 2011 (Released Dec 2010). They weren't exactly quick on the draw. Though I don't know how much of that was sprint and how much of that was samsung.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
Well it isn't a fair comparison to the epic. AMOLED screens have the touch sensor fused in

Well hopefully google will fix the customer service part in their restructuring, remember when people said samsung has bad customer service? so things change, hopefully for the better.

As for the sim, we are hoping that if we are lucky we might be able to reprogram it if necessary. But don't hold your breath.

The froyo was kind of samsung, they were having issues with it. Maybe they were trying to fix the gps or something? Then afterwards it was a 4 month delay on sprint. GB was also on sprint though delay was around 2-3 month or so...
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Puzzlegal:
Exactly. It's a perfectly decent phone if you want a keyboard on sprint. I'd be happier if it had a replaceable battery, but I rarely change the battery in my photon, and I might overlook that.

But... They are advertising it as a world phone. And anyone who actually wants a world phone will either use something else or be really pissed. I'm one of those people who travels every year or two, and wants a world phone, but won't use it much for that. If I buy this phone (and despite wanting a keyboard, I'm feeling less and less enthusiastic about it) I will not use it as a phone outside of north america. I will use the photon, or my husband's old unlocked treo.

But it occurred to me that the phone has radios it can use to make that "world phone" claim, and installing those worthless radios must cost something. So I wondered why.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
I think the bulk of people that travel and get this phone will be using a different phone while traveling. Does seem like wasted coin.

That being said, I christened my phone last night. Took a header and the phone in hand broke my fall on the pavement. 2 nice scratches on the bottom glass bezel and scrapes all along the bottom and side edges. Think I'm going to take some 200 grit and smooth out the frame.

And I briefly tasted lte in baltimore, but by the time I downloaded speedtest, it was gone. Unless I imagined it.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] pwnyourace:
I did that with my evo3d a few months ago lol. But man that thing was solid I like smashed it into the ground full force on my way down and it only took a scuff to the outter edge and the screen was perfect lol I was for sure idve shattered it.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
sorry to be a bother guys, thanks KP for trying :)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] pwnyourace:
Failure is just a step in the right direction. We now know what doesn't work lol. We all appreciate what you're doing man thanks a lot.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] KitsunePaws:
Still up for anything :)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
yea i was hoping that cwm would work, but it didnt luckily KP's phone is still working but im sure you guys will figure root out at some point :)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] KitsunePaws:
All we did was nuke recovery, given there's no real reason for it at this point in time anyway, no big loss.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] donsh00tmesanta:
How's battery life
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] tetrabyt:
Battery life has been excellent for me...
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Plancy:
The battery life is decent for the power it has, but it still has room for improvement, same for the performance and snappyness.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] kcrudup:
You're not satisfied with the PQ's performance and fluidity?! Which handset did you come from?

Personally, I think it's pretty good, and they've used a very good EMMC chip (as verified by every test I've run on it), as it hardly lags.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
cwm is up in the dev section, should have poste dit in original development but eh.

ill compile twrp after cm9 is done compiling :P
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Plancy:
I am satisfied with the PQ's performance, though I feel that it could do so much more with the S4 SoC.

edit: don't want to offend anyone :P
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
What samsung handsets with weaker specs? Gs2 or og Galaxy? I own the og Photon and Q as well as the Epic. The Epic doesn't get smoother than running TPR, and both Photons are smoother and quicker, the Q even more so. Don't have an Epic Touch to compare anymore.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Plancy:
Yeah I'm being nit picky, I'm comparing no Window/transition animations to that enabled on the Samsung equal, I guess it's easy to spot the hesitation on app launching since the animations are a buffer between app life cycle start routines.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] donsh00tmesanta:
What size is the battery should one wait for the photon q Maxx?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
Well all of my transitions and app starts are quicker than the epic. That being said, being at 50% battery at lunchtime after some intermittent charging is not doing the photon any favors. I fear after tomorrow, my epic will be back online. Shame. I'm not about to live in fear of my battery dying and leaving me stuck, stuck tethered to an outletnor tethered to a small battery pack. Not worth it. If someone hekd a gun to my head with the epic not being an option, i'd probably choose the upcoming lg slider, wvga and all.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Plancy:
Epic is not an equal, can't compare a8 to semi a15 :P. After rooting/unlocking and starting fresh my PQ is much faster, battery life and performance seem to be better after disabling/freezing some apps.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
Don't believe i said the epic was better at anything.

I'm not going to just try and squeak by on the battery through tips and tricks. I'm in signal challenged hospitals, and can't live tethered to a battery pack or ac outlet. Maybe i'll root and freeze/disable apps tonight, but it has one more day with tomorrow being a typical busy day in one hospital. 3hat are you freezing/disabling?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] KitsunePaws:
Can you hop on wifi? I see plural in hospitals, charging while you travel? I admittedly don't fiddle with my phone all day long but I've had it last me the better part of two days without a charge.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
Wifi isn't an option unfortunately. The one health system's wifi doesn't play well with android email. I can get activsync based email, but web based through stock, kaiten and so forth doesn't work. Ticks me off because when employees asked the help desk about it, their only comment was, "why do you need to check your personal mail during the work day?" Aholes pretty much.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] KitsunePaws:
Yeah, I can see that battery dying quick with poor signal and 3G only.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Plancy:
I disable any useless "Running services" and "Cache processes" on the Apps manager. Google Search Bar, Motorola Input, Suggests core/poll, Data collection services, Quickview......etc

I'm always near a computer at my University since all my classes are in the Engineering building.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] kcrudup:
That's a common misconception, and if he's got low signal, that's going to drag down battery FAR more than background apps running. My PQ spends > 50% of its time in deep sleep (where apps aren't a factor).

What you can do is turn off the LTE radio, though: Settings->Mobile Networks->Network Mode->CDMA . See if that helps.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
Funnier thing is my reception here now is usually 3 bars and sometimes 4 here. I have trouble with data and email over 3g. My epic is active a spare line. I'm going to bring the Epic in tomorrow with it and see if it's sprint or the phone. Maybe I'm lucky and they've been doing the NV upgrade for the past few months.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] kcrudup:
That's entirely possible, as while the "Signal Strength" indicator might be a meter of raw signal, it's the Ec/Io value (essentially, the signal-to-noise ratio, or "quality" of the signal) and the "CDMA radius" (essentially, the more CDMA radios (other VZ/Sprint/Virgin Mobile/... phones) sharing a low signal reduce its effective radius) that determine your data speed (I suspect Sprint's lousy backhaul actuallly isn't much of an issue here :)).
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] afidel:
Ha, when I first got mine it was almost the first thing I did. I went to lunch and as soon as I left WiFi coverage you could literally watch the battery life tick down and the temperature rise (though it didn't get as high as my Evo Shift) so I quickly figured out how to turn off the LTE radio. Maybe it'll be better once we're actually an LTE market but if it's anything like the Shift I'll just leave 4G off 99% of the time.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] kcrudup:
I wish there was a toggle for CDMA/CDMA-LTE, as I'm in an unannounced market that has it, but only around my "home", so when I leave in the morning I sometimes forget to turn it off.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
settings > more > mobile networks > network mode

thats how it is on the gnexus and sgs3
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
Officially back on my Epic. Was on cdma only. I was at 38% by 11:30 this morning. Last night it died halfway through the phils game. Then the phillies died soon after. Missed an important work call, and after plugging in the phone it wouldn't turn on for 10 minutes. The led was solid green and no button press combos were doing the trick.

Just can't chance the battery dying and be SOL. Without comparing it against the Epic and what I wanted in a successor, it is fast, has a nice screen and feels good in the hand. Was still adjusting to the keyboard differences, but not complaining being back on the Epic. Happy to wait and see what's on the horizon or hang with the Epic for another year.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] kcrudup:
Maybe you have an app that's behaving badly, causing the PQ to stay outta deep sleep? I just don't get such low uptimes on the battery (have never seen it go less than ~65%).
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
I've always had a hard time with any Sprint phone in quite a few hospitals. Maybe I'll revisit at some point. I just can't take the chance. I'm on call most of the time and really can't afford to have a dead phone. I have the same app setup on the Epic so maybe I'll download what, Gemini? or is there something else to try and find out how much uptime apps have? Think there was an app that pretty much killed or froze anything that wasn't actually running. Could attempt that in small batches and try to isolate. Take a look at what ones have the "prevent the phone from sleeping" permission. Knock them out. If I can start getting better life on the Epic during the work day, I'll possibly give the Q another shot. My preferences are still to a removable battery though.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
Maybe a miracle will happen and sprint will release the SPH-D705? I mean verizon is getting the Stratosphere II so maybe just maybe sprint has a Epic II somewhere? Just 5 days ago someone got their hands on an SPH-D705 rom.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1851173

In that thread it mentions:

Edit: nvm..I jumped the gun....it was canned :(
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
The photon Q that was sent to our store for display we never placed on display. We keep it behind the counter and when someone shows interest in it or its features we whip it out. So its used maybe 3-4 times a day. We got it Sunday. The day it was released. Charged it completely and have not turned it off sense. This morning we got the first "battery low" warning. Its at 14% right now. Going on 11 days with moderate use... none of our other phones have ever gotten that far. The galaxy s3 made it almost 8 days and we only used it twice because we had two already on display.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] mattlgroff:
Do you work in one of the few Sprint LTE zones? The reviews I have seen said good battery life, but they couldn't test LTE.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
The LG is probably running the same chip as the Stratosphere 2. SAMOLED Plus vs IPS. And the LG is coming with 16gb on board. Is there anything concrete Stratosphere 2 or LG in regards to screen res? qHD at 4" with no onscreen keys would be nice if we can't get 4.3".

And unfortunately my phone doesn't sit in a drawer hanging on standby waiting for people to play. I text quite a bit, surf, email w/attachments, back and forth on dropbox and some phone calls.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] tumbes20000:
Slow with updates? Let me tell you what is slow with updates samsung. Which is why I will not buy the sg3. Also if they do get banned from selling their phones in the usa after the apple verdict they will have zero incentive to update the ones people already purchased
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
Can you show me where the gs3 is on any list of getting banned? The ban would only help the cause for keeping the gs3 updated as it will be the only game in town for them. Plus with it being the same worldwide unlike all the other manufacturers you have less work on updating as well. So your argument doesn't seem to hold up here.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] wingzeroismine:
I got my photon to break 120 Fahrenheit just doing basic web browsing once, my shift has topped out at like 115. I'll note that overall the photon does stay cooler on average when compared to the shift, that little thing would burn up just loading a webpage and frequently stay in the 100s just being used for browsing, good signal or not.

My photon lasts through the day with a few hours of use which is great, while I've never had the shift shut off due to dying battery it was mostly because I'd have to charge it by mid day.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
No we don't have lte yet and if we did we would keep it off unless we needed it as I did with my photon. I never turned wimax on unless I was downloading a larger file or play store surfing. Besides that 3G has been reliable and fast enough for me to stream music and surf random apps like xda. When I needed the heavier stuff then it was either 4G or WiFi. So having lte in my area wouldn't change the life of the battery by a noticeable percent seeing as we only use the photon Q to show customers its launcher features, keyboard, and some random useful apps (depending on who we're talking to)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] tetrabyt:
Thank god... I couldn't stand the thought of another epic...
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
Is there a way to pull the launcher from the phone without root?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] mattlgroff:
Yes, and its likely the same launcher as the Atrix HD from the looks of it.

adb pull system C:\SystemPull

should work fine. Will make a system pull, the launcher will likely be Home.apk or named something similar under /app/

EDIT: You can use my program to do it easier than setting up adb with android-sdk:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15093625/SystemPuller/SystemPuller.zip
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] CornholioGSM:
...has this phone SIM card slot and i possible more photos?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
No sorry to both your questions. I took these pictures when the rep came to our store with the device. If we get the phones in before the 19th then I'll take more, including the model number. Any specific pictures of the phone you want of the device?

Edit: I can take more pictures of the flashlight he gave us lol. I have three of them. Very nice led flashlights! Usually we get bags or key holders or something lame