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[Nexus 7 Original Development] slybunda:
odd I still have f.ku installed but using stock kernel now and im getting better battery life than using franco kernel. makes sense to me though, franco always has 2 cores powered on, stock has a single low power core on and that is at 100mhz too.

either way its my own experience, iv tried franco kernel and it wasn't for me. it may be fine for other people.

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I downloaded the full rom from google for the nexus 7 and extracted the boot.img from it and flashed that using franco kernel updater
[Nexus 7 Original Development] jazzespresso:
uninstalled only franco app, nothing else...and monitored battery drain, and it was still the same issue, then found it that it was the darn XPrivacy app that causing it. I uninstalled XPrivacy app, and rebooted. I went back to normal and rocking now with your version of r65 :p
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Bobtehblob:
I find it funny that I'm going to be buying the new Nexus 7 as soon as I can get my hands on it. Even though I'm finally happy with how my Nexus 7 is running! Consumerism is bad guys :p
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
Even with a Snapdragon and 2gb of ram the v2 running stock seems about as fast as the current N7 with stock. That is to say, kinda slow. :p

Unboxing: http://www.neowin.net/news/new-nexus-7-unveiled-by-best-buy-ahead-of-google-event

More potential to improve things than with a Tegra though, I'd imagine.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Bobtehblob:
Yeah, it's been leaked so much that we'll know what they're actually having for breakfast before the even starts.

I was hoping for a 600, even if it is just an over clocked s4 pro essentially. An 800 was never a possibility for its price point.

Also, seeing as it's basically a Nexus 4 with a 1080p screen. Should it just be a copy paste job just about for all the development that's already been done on the nexus 4?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Nbsss:
LOL - brutal
[Nexus 7 Original Development] The Gingerbread Man:
I certainly agree snapdragon should be much easier to work on, get headphone boost and screen calibration to work. ATM though I'm more in the market for a new phone, I wonder if I can get discount buying new nexus phone with tablet when both are out :D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bsoplinger:
But true. It seems to have a huge bezel from the pics.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
3mm narrower bezel on each side, 2mm thinner, 50g lighter, actually. Same screen size but higher res, 323 density now. Dual speaker with Fraunhofer too. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZzS6BxHEns

http://live.theverge.com/google-android-chrome-sundar-pichai-summer-announcement/
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lrefra:
Factory images Android 4.3

https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#instructions
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
Holy crap! They wasted no time! That's unprecedented.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] The Gingerbread Man:
4.3 for gnex is there too, man I'm desparete to get out of work now to flash both my devices and a night in peace with gf on a night shift
[Nexus 7 Original Development] MBQ_:
Syncing the source now! Was super relieved to check android.googlesource to see tuna having the 4.3_r2.1 tag
[Nexus 7 Original Development] slybunda:
can I flash the factory image using twrp recovery?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bsoplinger:
Why the rush to install factory 4.3 images? Is there a root exploit yet? I'd never want 4.3 without root.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] seahorsepip:
There's for the leaked android 4.3 Roms a root method by Chainfire. I think those methodswork fine on these official releases.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
Basically Google broke root, the way we root and likely most every root app in existence.. :(

Root for 4.3 using Chainfire's test "daemonsu" works but there are still a few bugs he's working out. :good:

See here for the info, download and workaround for certain apps: https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/WqS2E9kkN1L

Also the following few posts here for the current issues: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=43914410#post43914410
[Nexus 7 Original Development] hotrodwinston:
If google would include a "power user" mode that gives access to build prop for tweaking and host file for ad block and just enough for things like kernel tweak app to work plus add a theme system I wouldn't need root.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] NYLimited:
Do you *really* think Google would allow access to hosts (ad blocking)? :confused:

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Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? Who knows? Who cares?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Rxpert:
Never gonna happen
[Nexus 7 Original Development] hotrodwinston:
Oh I know it's just wishful thinking - but would be great if they just put in a theme system - it's not like we don't know it works - and works well - even without root - on odexed roms - with buggy mods - on every device that has ever had cm7 or higher...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
Hey guys. I'm on vacation at the moment. I'll be updating this Kernel for 4.3 when I'm back home around 29th of July. I didn't even bring my N7 with me so no dice. Thanks for the comprehension.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
And I won't be hacking any sh*t together for the N7 either since I won't be updating mine to 4.3 until after the root/sdcard issues are sorted out. I share mine with my girlfriend so we need something that works at all times, and that's JB 4.2 + classic root for now. :(

If someone wants to recreate what I did for the GN (substitute the stock 4.3 ramdisk and make all of Francisco's usual alterations) using my Android Image Kitchen (see my sig), you're more than welcome to. :):good:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] MBQ_:
Enjoy your vacation homie.

You planning on getting the Nexus 7 2? Or whatever the official name is, hahah
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
I think we should all agree to call it the Nexus 7 v2 :D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] MBQ_:
I was hoping for like,

The Galaxandroid NexuGroupingTilapiToroT-Plus2chainzWhatsAnApple Tablet 2

Suffice to say, I was rather upset by the name Google chose to give the device.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
"flo" ? Yeah.. the **** is that? I liked the fish codenames. I do think it's pretty clever the way it's basically got the same hardware as the N4, so the stock N7v2 ROM name is the "razor" to the N4's "occam". ;)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bsoplinger:
Aww, can't we be like Apple and call it Nexus 7 (2013) instead?

Oh wait, Google already is ;)

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sjondenon:
Does 4.3 bring any kernel improvements from which francokernel can benefit?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] hotrodwinston:
Or nexus 7 mk2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TureX:
Is this kernel compatible with android 4.3?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Doo Doo:
no
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Bobtehblob:
Not yet, I'm assuming r66 will be. Franco gets back from his holiday on the 20th so look for it then
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TureX:
This is sure
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
But shortening it to N7v2 looks so nice and compact. :p

"Nexus 7 Second Generation". "Nexus 7 2nd Gen", "Nexus 7 v2" and "N7v2" for short. :laugh:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] nimbold:
What do you suggest for GPU clock?

As a user with daily usage of tablet(social, blogging, reader and a little of simple games)

I ask this cause i don't know much about Tegra.

Mine now is 416.

Don't know if lowering GPU clock affects on higher CPU usage. (More battery drain maybe?)

Or maybe i'm noob because of this questions :D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DvWatt:
416 is good for you :) (default value)

2D is calculate by CPU , I think you can get more performance from it if you check " force GPU rendering" in developer options. 2D will be calculated by GPU , and the work as you ask at CPU will be lighter.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] nimbold:
Thanks for the tips :)

Will give it a try. Hope battery life extend as well (it's excellent now but i want more :D)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Shano56:
N7.1
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
Nah that makes it seem as though the size has increased..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Shano56:
:p fine. N7v2 will suffice
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zaclimon:
Why not calling it nexus 7 FHD? (n7fhd) or flo (device board codename) :P

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 7 avec Tapatalk
[Nexus 7 Original Development] hotrodwinston:
Or just N7hd - fhd is not necessary As the original in not HD at all - and isn't that what it was refered to as in the leaks? Nexus 7 HD?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zaclimon:
Seems good but people would mistake it for some new n4 lool.

The original had a more than 720p (1280x800) display which is considered hd where's the new one have a full hd (1920x1200) display, which is why I call it n7fhd. (and I think it was referred like this in the leaks too)

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 7 avec Tapatalk
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
Only problem there is that the N7v3 will also be full hd. :p
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sgt. meow:
How about NN7? New Nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] scream4cheese:
The new nexus 7 has a full 1080p HD display.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sgt. meow:
Huh? :confused:

I was suggesting a new name.

The NN7 blows the N7 out of the benchmark waters with its newer parts. Perhaps Franco's magic can still direct some respect back towards us N7 owners.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
What about the "New Nexus 7" 2 in a year or two? :p Gotta be future proof.

N7v2, N7v3, etc. is.

Or Nexus 7 2nd gen, 3rd gen, etc.

Anyway, this is all silly talk. :silly:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] qu3becker:
I like "Nexus 7 2013" except if they release another one in 2013. :P

My Nexus 7 16gb got so slow that it's not even funny. I might be tempted to get the new one just because of that. I hoped that 4.3 would fix it but it didn't. Fstrim doesn't help either.

Anyway...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zaclimon:
Yeah well I guess N7v2 or 2nd gen would be better or even further N7'13.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] konradsa:
The same discussions came up with the "new iPad". Everybody now just refers to them as 3rd and 4th generation.

Interestingly, Apple didn't do the same with the iPhone, they probably realized it was stupid. Too bad Google didn't get that lesson.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Cheesebaron:
Not sure if it is me not having looked thoroughly enough, but I can't seem to find any information on how to get cifs working with this kernel. Is cifs built into the kernel or are there some modules I can download somewhere?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bsoplinger:
Dumb suggestion, try deleting files until you have a full 2Gb of free space.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
Ok guys I just came back from vacations, like 2 hours ago, and I just baked a Kernel compatible with 4.3. I started clean and fresh. The only thing that it doesn't feature compared with r65 is GPU Overlock and UV support. I want to re-code both from scratch. I also probably need to do some changes to Interactive, which for now is stock Interactive, but it works fine for now. The rest is on this r70, my custom Hotplug driver being the biggest and most notable change. Also proper IO mounts etc etc. I didn't add ROW or tweaked any IO scheduler because of lack of time, but I wanted to just share this for anyone to play with in the mean while. Thankfully its heaps and bounds smoother and better than stock Kernel, NVIDIA really ****ed up its Tegra3 Kernel drivers that manage the CPU.

The app is not yet supporting 4.3, I plan to work on that tonight, so this release is just attached here so that you can fastboot it. I'm working as fast as possible, but on my own pace since I just returned from vacation.

Tuna and Manta are following later tonight if I find the energy.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] suku_patel_22:
Will the 4.3 kernel have support for the companion core of tegra 3?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
No, theres no point in using that stupid core.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] suku_patel_22:
Doesn't it help in standby time?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] icu64:
How is it stupid? If it's there them I mean you might as well use it for what it's for (power savings)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
You guys are pretty late to the party. Please search the thread since this has been explained many times. :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] icu64:
I just got this a day ago, I'm sorry and I don't want to be annoying but I would still like to know for educational reasons
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zaclimon:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] Will you get a flo (new nexus 7). Now that it has that S4 pro chip inside, you can backport easier the mako's code into it right?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
The companion core, unfortunately, is more of a marketing gimmick. The idea on paper is good, but NVIDIA borked it pretty heavily. The cluster switch between the G and LP clusters (G = normal 4 cores; LP = Low Power core) is very heavy and unfortunately the scheduler programmed by NVIDIA to decide when to switch back and forth is just too bad to be true, and its pretty much linked to their also DERPED Hotplug driver. All of this together proved not to be providing the supposed improved battery while the LP core was activated. I'm not 100% sure about this but I believe the LP core is just a normal core, just exactly the same as the others, but capped to 600MHz if I remember correctly. I'd rather use the 4 cores normally, scale them up and down from the lowest CPU freq to the highest and spare us with the heavy cluster switch. Its something like this :)

Yep.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Luigiesin:
OK time to upgrade my N7 to N7 II !

Hey Franco, so I've being following the thread and understand the whole issue with both versions of the kernel... Is it only a GPU issue?

And if that's the case, would you be able to come out with a solution for us that use AOSP custom ROMs?

Glad you're back brother! This thread isn't the same without you ;)

Sent from my Rock & Roll Nexus 4 \m/

ROM: PA 3.69

Kernel: Franco r165

T-Mobile
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DJLamontagneIII:
The best keeps on getting better :p
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
GAH! 484 even though its a slight increase from the stock 416 Dead Trigger has immensely improved. The guns seem to shoot much faster =] Sweet.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] JDCFH:
Just tried your kernel after using Motleys and was just wondering if I should wipe caches after flashing yours with your tool?

Seemed okay but took an age to load the my library widget and a few apps.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leshake:
just did a reboot on r16. running aokp build 4. went into deep sleep for maybe 2-3hrs and never returned (couldn't power on the screen).
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
Deep sleep is a state of the processor.. not when you cant turn the tablet back on.. :silly:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
Franco if and when your done messing with the GPU could you look into lowering the panel brightness? Should help with battery. And the fact that the display at 25% is ridiculously bright.

Sent From My Toro+ via White Tapatalk
[Nexus 7 Original Development] mullemulle86:
+1

Yes that is true.

Gesendet von meinem Galaxy Nexus mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] jdmcivic:
could have achieved better if not for the random sod while on r13 and then flashed to r16..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] dj_ghosie:
Is it possible to include fast USB charge in future builds?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
I get screen flicker issues if I turn my brightness below ~35%, does yours not do that?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] spaceman860:
Your N7 is defective return it

Sent from my BAKED N7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
Nope never have... is your tegra dimmer turned off? Otherwise yeah you have a detective unit.

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[Nexus 7 Original Development] spaceman860:
Franco when you do a fresh install of your app it says I don't have super su installed but I do bug report:)

Sent from my BAKED N7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
Still no luck with that Im affraid, all my attempts were unsuccessful.

And do you have SuperSu or not?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] spaceman860:
Yes I do

Sent from my BAKED N7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leshake:
Let me rephrase that: if I leave my device unattended for a few hours, I am unable to return to it (via tapping power button) on the latest nightly r16
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ehiggins:
I also had a sod, first day on kernel r16.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] mullemulle86:
Using r16 since release so far no problems.

Games are running great now.

An option to lower the brightness more would be great.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] HoochieCoo:
Had an SOD this morning. Here is the last_kmsg.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Hussainally:
What ROM are u on Franco?.thank u for r-16...simply rocks
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Bobtehblob:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the two different builds is only an issue on the n4?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] wildestpixel:
Grey area - should there be any issue using with Tilapia ?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] slybunda:
will franco kernel be updated to work on android 4.3?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Bobtehblob:
Come on man, literally the lost above yours has all the information you need quoted...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] khaytsus:
Anyone tried it yet? I'm going to give it a heave today, curious how my current laggy 4.3 behavior will change going back to franco's kernel. :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] nexusmaniac:
Mines still laggy with r70 :( it's not the kernels fault though it's the terrible tegra 3 chip
[Nexus 7 Original Development] khaytsus:
Yeah.. But from 4.2.2 to 4.3 I'm seeing a ton of lags in apps that load data, like Engadget for example. I wonder how much of it was disabling fsync was masking the problem.. I'm about to factory reset and see what happens, driving me nuts. But I'll see what the kernel does. :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] poondog:
Which app is this in, or just general ui? Which ROM?

I'm on stock ROM and kernel, haven't flashed this kernel yet on 4.3 and its fine. Only apps that lag for me (that I use) are chrome and xda, which always lagged on this device regardless of ROM or kernel

I did a fully fresh install: download the whole image from Google and flash, including data so everything's formatted and like new

In ui, this keeps up with my One (on Google edition ROM) its only in chrome and xda the one kills the N7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] fozzie:
I know this has to be placebo, but after flashing r70, the colours on my N7 seem so much better; much more contrasty! Perhaps it happened after 4.3 and I never noticed :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] khaytsus:
Engadget is still super laggy, oh well. Was hoping the kernel would somehow make it perfect ;) probably going to factory reset today and see if that helps.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] rxmxsh:
This is not for Flo, right? Can someone please confirm?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] qu3becker:
Nope. This is not the Nexus 7 2013 section.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] rxmxsh:
Thanks for the pleasant response. I didn't realize that Flo had its own forum now. My apologies.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bsoplinger:
I assume you've tried Fstrim?

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] khaytsus:
Yeah, I did a Forever Gone fill to like 150m (and got tired of waiting on it ;) ) and fstrim nightly.

4.3 is just laggier than 4.2.2 was for me, so far. And I'm at 3.9g free.. Sheesh.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] slybunda:
franco kernel r70 seems to have a lot higher standby battery life compared to r65, has something been altered to achieve this?

also still looking for a way to root the device, did fast boot install of franco kernel r70, iv got twrp v2.5 recovery on it too, but need to root some how, or is there a way to put a apk file (AOSP browser.apk) into the system folder using TWRP without root?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] khaytsus:
A way to root the device? Besides the multitude of ways to root the Nexus 7? Unlock bootloader, or use motochopper, flash twrp (you said you already have it?), flash supersu 1.50 or later.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] farmerbb:
4.3 has built-in fstrim support that runs while your device is idle. Give it a couple days, seriously, my N7 feels a lot snappier and most of the I/O-related lag is gone now.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] slybunda:
yes i managed to root it, i flashed twrp recovery 2.6.0 and then flashed the supersu v1.51 zip and now its rooted and working fine.

after further analysis it looks like r70 build is dropping clocks down to 100mhz on idle, r65 used to go down to 200mhz only. i believe this is whats making the difference in extending the battery life for standby on r70.

once undervolting is working franco kernel will be top notch!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] jazzespresso:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7185/android-43-update-brings-trim-to-all-nexus-devices

it sure does feels snappier after couple days. I also use Apex launcher and it was always laggy, but after 4.3, it feels more responsive, and less re-drawing when going from app drawer to home screen. At least, this is my experience so far with 4.3. I read some other articles about 4.3 and some says it improve battery life, but I did not notice any battery improvement for my N7, in fact it was a little worse than original 4.2.2, so i am kinda waiting Franco's update for 4.3
[Nexus 7 Original Development] khaytsus:
I've been on 4.3 since the day after the announcement, so... 3 days now? Plus I run fstrim nightly, and lagfix twice now. I don't think it's getting any better.

But maybe you guys can help me out. Can you install the Engadget app and time it? For me, it's INSANELY slow.

It takes about 1:15 (yes, minute, 15 seconds) to load completely so I can scroll it. I have a youtube video I shot if anyone really wants to watch it, but basically I launch it, it launches reasonably fast to a white screen, then about 30 seconds later I get articles, then about 15 seconds later I get the graphics at the top, then about 20 seconds later I get some article images. If I scroll at this point I'll get an ANR, I click Wait... 5s later, scroll, ANR.. Wait. 5s later, it'll finally scroll.

It was NEVER like this in 4.2.2. And on my phone it loads and scrolls in under 5s, it was about the same before on my N7.

But that all said, I'm not having terrible performance in anything else immediately offhand, so maybe something wrong with the app in 4.3?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] jazzespresso:
:D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Bobtehblob:
Engadget app opens instantly for me. Might be time for a full restore I think. Some things sh*the the bed somewhere :/
[Nexus 7 Original Development] khaytsus:
I was afraid that had to be the case, thank you for confirming! Now that TiBu is updated for 4.3 and I've tested a few restores, I'm going to nuke it. Hopefully it fixes the problem. It's that, or I have some other app causing problems. That'll be annoying to track down.

Well ****. I did it, logged in, updated existing/stock apps in market, disabled Currents and other stock stuff I don't want, installed Engadget, waited a few minutes, rebooted, waited a few minutes more for it to settle etc. Still takes a minute to be able to scroll through apps posts.

I don't get it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] peneoark:
I am really digging r70. Thanks Franco!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ram130:
I have the same issue. I think its time we upgrade to the new n7 :(
[Nexus 7 Original Development] khaytsus:
But a few posts above, says it opens immediately for him. I don't get it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] icu64:
What are you're settings for the kernel?