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[Nexus 7 Original Development] sshinde555:
Hey is this kernal support the FauxSound Audio/Sound Control support app, as i want to increase the speaker sound.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] nexusmaniac:
[MENTION=410271]fransisco[/MENTION]franco Hi, can we expect to see an r78 with some new hotplug stuff from hammerhead? Ty :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] rockafellor:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] I don't think so as this device is too old I guess :( waiting too.

Oxydo kernel is good and up to date

Sent from my francofied cataclysmd Nexus 5
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ernexto:
I installed r77 on my N7 2012 (via FKU free) over last CM nightly and lost half apps installed! :(
[Nexus 7 Original Development] fozzie:
Installing a kernel has no impact on your apps. Something else was broken on your side.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] rocada:
What do you mean with half your app ?:confused:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Avalun:
Hi, i checked you kernel and app, it looks great, can i adjust the Ampere settings for charging with that kernel? Because if i plug on a usb3 Port i should be able to charge with more power, so I want to adjust that.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] !crazy:
This happened to me a couple of times, but with faux kernel and CM, and on S4. Similar happened on N7, but only few apps were screwed.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] keneth_c:
KK 4.4.2

I'm looking for kernels for my Nexus 7 (3G / 2012) which is on stock KK 4.4.2 (KOT49H) ... more because i feel there is a battery drain on stock kernel...

Couldn't find very many kernels for some reason and was wondering if this will work with my device....

Or if someone can guide me to another kernel...

Please do lemme know...

thanks.

Apologies if anything I've said is off-topic...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] NYLimited:
Yes, it will work on it.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] keneth_c:
Flashed this kernel today (v77 nightly) and instaled the updated app as well.

Don't really find much difference from stock 4.4.2 kernel. Anything in particular that I should be looking for apart from purchasing the paid app which I will in a weeks time when I get my pay.

Display colors might be a lil better but I'm not very sure. Placebo maybe?!

N00b to this kernel so pls excuse.

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[Nexus 7 Original Development] rockafellor:
Hey try this kernel ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2373410&page=129) as franco kernel for this device is not worked on at the moment. Be sure to install aospal version of the kernel. And if it no works the normal one so download both to avoid a bootloop. That kernel has an awesome battery time! Also using a nexus 7 3G 2012

Sent from my francofied cataclysmd Nexus 5
[Nexus 7 Original Development] pit84:
Dear Francisco

I use your kernel with latest aokp kk nightly and all workly very good, but when i have flashed your kernel with fk updater a good number of my apps are erased

I have this problem only with 27/03 and 06/04 nightly

Thanks for your job and sorry for my orrible english

Bye
[Nexus 7 Original Development] steviemch:
Is Franco done updating this now?

Only asking because every other device got updated a few weeks ago and not seeing anything for this.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] steviemch:
I'll take the virtual tumbleweed blowing through here as a yes lol.

Sent by Borg neural subspace transceiver node.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] OGroteKoning:
Reading that some people have issues with r77 on their 2012 devices. I have a 2012 wifi only N7. What is the latest stable version?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] pit84:
Dear francisco i really like your kernel and your app

but please update because r77 erase my app data
[Nexus 7 Original Development] fozzie:
Not possible. It doesn't touch /data. The cause of your problems lie elsewhere.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Stereo8:
Does this kernel support F2FS? It's the best kernel on this forum.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] rockafellor:
Try this guy's. I think franco won't update it anymore. No reply on questions to n7 2012. :(

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=51627880

Sent from my francofied cataclysmd Nexus 5
[Nexus 7 Original Development] HarryCooter:
I doubt I'll get a reply from the Dev, but here goes anyway.

Took my N7 off the charger, used it for a bit and put it away just like any other time. Went to use it when I got home from work and it would not turn on. Put it on charge and let sit and was able to get it working again. Battery drained fairly quickly....

Any ideas?

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 7 Original Development] HarryCooter:
Forgot to add stock 4.4.2 and r77 kernel.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
This used to happen to me on both r76 and r77. Changed wi-fi sleep policy to always on and it hasn't happened again. It could be totally unrelated, but it's worth to give it a try.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Hawkw1nd:
It's one reason I won't use Franco kernels anymore. I've bought all his apps (even for devices I didn't have) but he can be rather fickle. He started supporting the HTC One X (Tegra 3) when it came out 2 yrs ago as it was the "cutting-edge" device at the time (for about 3 weeks, anyway). After a few months, he just dropped it like a hot potato.

I guess we should be "thankful" he supported Grouper for over a year...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] khaytsus:
What's the SLA on a dev supporting a device? I can't recall the last time I saw one.

Because they don't exist. In my opinion the only time a dev really has a commitment to provide reasonably long-term support for a device is if the community purchased it for them. Does this sort of thing still happen? I dunno, it used to.

The Nexus 7 is almost two years old. The only real failure the device has (beyond the speakers) is terrible IO from the nvidia chip + crappy storage hardware. I think a lot of people would have stuck with the tablet longer without the IO issues, but when the 2013 came out, people moved on.

And even at that, devs come and go. Maybe he needed time off? Maybe he needed more free time, therefore reduced what he was supporting regularly?

As said over and over on XDA, this is about the devs. Every ROM, kernel, and app here is at the pleasure of the dev. You made a donation to his apps; great. I bet you got more than your moneys worth out of them, even if it was only a year.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Hawkw1nd:
I never said I didn't get my money's worth and I don't recall saying I regretted buying his apps (even the one for the LG P500 which I've never owned), or my PayPal donations, or the Franco phone case, for that matter. He did some great stuff for the Gnex for the 14 months or so I used it, and I can't complain about that. That said, I think I've made a reasonable financial contribution considering my usage.

I haven't used one of his kernels for 15 months, but I'm sure he's done some good work on whatever devices he's supporting now.

It is XDA, so I'm not going to say anything other than it would be nice if perhaps he'd simply reply to the users who've been asking the last couple of months whether he's stopped supporting Grouper or not. It's true that he doesn't owe anyone any further releases for this device as it's nearing it's 2nd anniversary, but it'd be a kind gesture nevertheless, wouldn't it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] darkchazz:
Kernel update is coming!

Source: Google+ comments
[Nexus 7 Original Development] gerardo87:
Can I use this kernel on paranoid android 4.3 beta 2 (kk 4.4.2)???

Inviato dal mio Nexus 7 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Nexus 7 Original Development] kilometers4:
You should be able to. Make a backup and try it :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] jrk190:
The only issue I've had is that I get (insmod failed) when I try to install modules for touchcontrol. Anyone else have this issue?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Doo Doo:
If I'm not mistaken touch control doesn't even work on the 2012 Nexus 7 but does work on the 2013 Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] jrk190:
Ahh, bummer. Thanks. Back to CM stock kernel, then. I'm new to the N7 scene. Oh, if anyone wants to try something to unlock your device by knocking, the Dev of knock lock has a knock unlock on beta.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] pit84:
I hope the new version is compatible with aokp kk nightly,because release77 erase all my app data
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
There, Grouper has some love. I don't use this tablet anymore, and quite frankly I don't like it that much (Tegra 3 is a pain in the arse to play with), but hey, r77 had some bugs so its better later than never! :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] justibasa:
[MENTION=334712]francisco[/MENTION] My wife said if you were here she would kiss you good sir. Thanks.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] xFuGiToiDx:
Still getting a delay to wake up the screen after pressing the power button. It takes like 2-3 seconds. Other than that this kernel makes the n7 fast and snappy as hell
[Nexus 7 Original Development] eseregin:
Yeah, pretty fast it is!

For me power up about same time as on Samsung Note 3 I think, about 1 second suppose...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] espaciosalter20:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION], would you add f2fs support ? Thanks for the update!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] nexusmaniac:
Thank you!! :D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
Thanks for this update :D I'm also still having a delay when turning the screen on (compared with r76 atleast). Has anyone managed to minimized this by tweaking any fku settings?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] NYLimited:
I set the minimum cpu frequently up one step to 204 MHz and it runs fine.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
Thanks. Will try this as soon as I get home :) does it affect battery much?

Edit: Didn't notice any difference with 204 MHz :(
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sjknight413:
I came back to Franco kernel yesterday after a long time on mkernel and my god the battery life on this is terrible in comparison!

Clearly it's due to the supposedly useless lpu core being disabled.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] NYLimited:
The difference in battery use is minimal. I didn't notice any.

Did you try clearing all FKU settings?

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] adame09:
How can you test battery discharge in less that 3 battery cycles??? Lol
[Nexus 7 Original Development] OGroteKoning:
I don't fully understand the battery testing and amount of cycles. Based on your query advice what do you suggest? Why is 3 cycles too little?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sjknight413:
The battery cycles argument is COMPLETELY invalid.

In my many, many years of android use and what would be hundreds and hundreds of rom flashes across multiple devices I have never, i repeat never, seen a measurable difference in battery life after going through 'charge cycles'.

Anybody who believes otherwise is experiencing a placebo effect and is talking utter rubbish.

Just because a developer tells you to do it doesn't mean it is true, it has become a way for devs to cover their backs, an excuse for bad battery life.

'Oh your battery life is bad? That's just because you've only just flashed it, wait a week of charge cycles and I'll be fine!' Rubbish.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] shinesthru:
You may be right that multiple charge cycles are not necessary to determine battery usage on different ROMs, kernels, devices, etc. However, you have only given anecdotal evidence, which is not that convincing. Your attitude towards those who may disagree with your conclusions doesn't help your case, either.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Gspin96:
1: battery has no calibration files getting updated during cycles

2: when you flash a ROM/kernel, the battery doesn't change its characteristics. It's still the same, just discharged a bit because of the flashing process, which to the battery is exactly the same as any normal usage (such as playing games)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sjknight413:
Exactly.

A battery is a battery, it is an entirely separate entity from the android system and just because you flash a new rom it does not mean the battery capacity is going to decrease.

This battery calibration malarkey needs to stop.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] adame09:
You have to be kidding me. So your telling me your new updated kernel and android system does not have to have time to settle in???
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sjknight413:
No, no they do not.

And they never have throughout my 4 and a half years of using android.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Skinpipe:
i agree with you when it comes to the kernel, you dont have to wait til after charging to get better battery life out of a kernel, its noticeable if its better or worse even after an hour or so, the rom settling thing im not so sure about i know its about building cache and that but i cant decide if it increases battery use after a clean flash.

im with you all the way on the fact that to many users obsess over this kernel and charge cycle thing it gets annoying after a million times mentioned.

Also m kernel battery life is amazing but francos latest kernel for grouper performs alot better in general use scrolling etc.

Ive been using android since htc launched sensation ive had 4 droid phones and i own both n7's and i feel the same about all of them in relation to kernel flashing.

oh and i was in brighton last weekend i saw stand up at the krater i think? it was awesome!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sjknight413:
At last somebody who gets it! haha. I agree that franco's performance is better but, in my opinion at least, the improvement is only marginal and not worth the two hours+ drop in screen on time i get.

ah no way! the krater is Komedia right? do you live local or just visiting? Brighton is my home city and one of the best places you could visit in the uk :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
Just pushed r79 finally fixing the screening on delay.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] brenopapito:
Perfect !!

Thank you !
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ABu33:
Hi [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION],

would you be so kind to share your grouper defconfig?

Br,

ABu33
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
Its in /proc/config.gz but I can share on my git later today.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] OGroteKoning:
What must settle in?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
Due to the lack of complains I can guess r79 fixed the **** screen on delay for everyone?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] chikimonke:
Seems to have worked for me.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] NYLimited:
Yes, it did.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lolcopter:
Can confirm screen on being fixed. Great performance too, awesome update!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
I don't see why. I don't want the G cluster to go any lower than what it is already to be honest.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] matus201:
I love these changes, but if I leave them untouched, the kernel will remain close to original right? No CPU freq changes and a slight GPU overclock? (for some reason I like little tweaks - and that's why I really like your kernel, but I don't like when the kernel is trying to fix everything - from my experience it just screws things up :D )
[Nexus 7 Original Development] krazeecracker:
I'm more of a pc tech then android lol. All this kernel talk is another language for me. Anywhere I can learn about all this? And btw r19 = :D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] befehl:
R19 feels so smooth! Love your work!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Metallice:
I understand your hesitation, but I've found that not raising it with LP overclock has consequences and I assume the same is true with an LP underclock.

I've been playing around with LP core a lot with my own builds. I'm pretty familiar with it's behavior, and not changing this has consequences for both raising and lowering the LP core min.

In normal behavior the G cores will drop down to their min at 475Mhz and then to single core mode and then transfer everything over to the LP core also running at 475Mhz. When not idling, the LP core will pretty much spend all of it's time at 475Mhz. The LP core will RARELY go up to 500Mhz. Almost never... even when load on the LP core gets pretty high. (Learned this from watching tegra 3 DVFS stats file). In the rare moments the LP core does go up to it's max at 500Mhz it is a small intermediate when switching to the G cores. So as you can see, the G core min from my observations acts as a sort of pseudo-max frequency.

This leads to issues if your trying to raise the LP max freq, since the G min essentially the maximum and most used non-idle LP freq no matter what you set the LP max too. I've set the LP max to 620MHz and kept the G min at 475Mhz and the LP core still really only went up to 475Mhz, only going up to 600Mhz and 620Mhz rarely and only before quickly switching to the G cores. However, when I set the G min to 600Mhz (LP still at 620Mhz), the 600Mhz slot actually started getting used a lot ( and the time at 100Mhz increased as a result of using 600Mhz)

There are also potential problems if you lower the LP max to say 200Mhz while keeping the G min at 475Mhz. You end up with the G cores dropping down to single core mode at 475Mhz trying to transfer things over to an LP core only running at 200Mhz. I can imagine that leading to major issues and lag when trying to switch over to the LP core.

*phew* Sorry about the length. Lol I can't believe I typed that much on my N7. Hopefully it all makes sense to you.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] dimako83:
Just had a sod with r17. Left the n7 for 6 hours with 60% battery came back and got sod and 34% battery left
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TheByteSmasher:
Still App FC's, now on r19.... any ideas?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
A kernel doesnt cause apps to FC so I dont know.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] irminsul:
As it was supposed to happen, just had a SOD. My first one on franco, r18. 1100 max, interactive. N7, why so sensitive?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Jerreth:
TCP algorithm

Question, I dont know much about the congestion avoidance algorithm and i was just wondering which is best or if there is somewhere i could read up on them.?? whats everyone using now?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] M3drvr:
This latest kernel, exquisite! With 16 I was getting a slight hesitation at times on the browser. Been using this latest version for few hours now and yet to see any hesitation. Almost turns me on how great this makes my tablet!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] befehl:
You can read up on them here http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_congestion_avoidance_algorithm#

I stick with cubic because that's what my router and pc also use.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bbc0:
Sorry but I think you've been in NT too long. :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] golfinggino:
I have been using the faux kernel for the last few months I flashed the latest Franco kernel today i will test it out for a few more days but so far i am very impressived !!!! It is very fast
[Nexus 7 Original Development] M3drvr:
That may be true. Thankfully I'm going back home January 1st for 3 months.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
Welcome back to the real world :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
LMFAO! :D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] deltantor:
I'm having sod's as well after updating to r16, happened with 17 and 18 as well and just updated to 19, will report back if it happens with 19. Will post a last_kmsg if it happens again. Running latest paranoid android. Have the proc at 200mhz min 1300max, its happening after not using it for a while. Not sure if there is any more useful information could give.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
Anybody else having a jumpy keyboard? Its annoying the **** out of me.

Sent From My N7 via White Tapatalk
[Nexus 7 Original Development] simms22:
@Francisco thanks for bringing the ability for the user to overclock their gpu to their preferred gpu speed to the nexus 7. im enjoying it immensely :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Charmacas:
I can also confirm that the screen now wakes up instantly. Thanks!

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus with Tapatalk
[Nexus 7 Original Development] chding:
Had reboot issue during uninstalling apps. Using pa 4.3 beta 4
[Nexus 7 Original Development] asturel:
ondemand and conversative governorst isnt updated to 2.6 cpufreq interface? since i cant compile them

in the header u64 get_cpu_idle_time(unsigned int cpu, u64 *wall, int io_busy);

but all of these governors have u64 get_cpu_idle_time(unsigned int cpu, u64 *wall); declaration
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
Doesn't seem Kernel related. Let me guess, using ART?

Then fix it lol, its easy. If you can't fix it I'll just push the fix sometime, its straight forward.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
Besides CPU overclocking what is actually missing in this Kernel? I've done most of what I could, performance is great and battery too.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Gspin96:
F2FS :P
[Nexus 7 Original Development] frantisek.nesveda:
F2FS support would be nice, lots of people have converted now.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] JerryPi:
Would really like to see f2fs support in your kernel, tnx :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] atlharp:
This has been running like a top. The Nexus hasn't been working right since kitkat came on the scene (noticeable lag on a number of ROMs), but this seems to be the cure. Franco I know you hate the Tegra 3, but thank you for putting up with this so I can have my Nexus 7 back. Your work is ALWAYS appreciated. :thumbup:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] chaostrodamis:
F2fs support
[Nexus 7 Original Development] asturel:
With only F2FS support u didnt go anywhere. It requires ramdisk changes to mount the 'partition' differently (f2fs instead of ext4) also it requires new recovery too. That means everybody will be forced to use f2fs. (or could we have multiple mounts for one 'partition' with different fs/parameters and it will mount it correctly?)

franciscofranco could u pick this commit? https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/2bfad856683bb61e9f8ccd3f734d2a6d68116ca9 it improves the background gradients a lot
[Nexus 7 Original Development] chding:
Yes. It works fine under PA stock kernel and mkernel
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Gspin96:
Kernels can and do contain drivers for multiple filesystems. Otherwise, no device would be able to read its FAT32 sdcard while having an ext4 /system.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] asturel:
I didnt say that,

Im talking about the fstab not the kernel drivers: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_asus_grouper/blob/cm-11.0/fstab.grouper

Ofc you can have as many drivers as u like, but how do u benefit from it if its still mounted as ext4? So how would u have f2fs formatted partition if the fstab tells that it should be ext4? Also its readed by the recovery too and formatted it to that fs. (in this case ext4) So tell me how would you use f2fs w/o actually changing fstab ?:)

For sdcard the fs is autodetected, and doesnt have fs specific mount parameters. (and its mounted via vold not by fstab.. well its merged now into fstab but handled differently, just check the 'voldmanaged' part of the fstab what i linked)

Dont get me wrong, i like F2FS, already using it with franco's kernel, but its not just add the drivers into the kernel..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Gspin96:
What i meant is: if the kernel had drivers for both, couldn't the ROM and recovery be managing whether it mounts as ext or f2fs?

I'm sorry i'm not really expert on this, need to know :P

EDIT: maybe i got it... the fstab is packed in the boot.img, right?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] frantisek.nesveda:
Well, there could always be two (or more) versions of the kernel, each one for a different partition layout. Or the kernel could decide when to use which partition layout during the install via this tool (warning: blatant self-promotion). So nobody would be forced to use F2FS, it would be purely optional.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
Would you mind sharing the zip or boot.img for F2FS franco kernel? :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] jazzespresso:
are you using all default settings as it comes with kernel? or did you tweak anything?:confused: