yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Nothing better than some tough love to get the kids on the right track when everything else fails.

Regarding your question, read the guide in post#7. however, adding to that you should keep the radio that you are testing for a few days to properly test the results.

Bananagranola - I have another rom now, stock rooted and the adb works fine.
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
That's really interesting... Oh well. Glad you got it working!
[Desire HD General] montyjosh:
thanks bro..i forget one more thing its RIL..and now it flash the RIL file also 1 hours ago..now my signal is better than best..

---------- Post added at 10:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:39 PM ----------

thanks for ur support..but i forget to flash the RIL file..now flash that one & my all problems are solved..
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
Like the guide says, do not flash an RIL unless you use a Sense ROM.
[Desire HD General] montyjosh:
but after flashing RIL file my internet signal works better..without RIL file its look week..now i download same files without any without any break of signal
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
Are you using a Sense ROM? What ROM are you using?
[Desire HD General] montyjosh:
yes i m using sense based rom android revolution 704..i know there is no need to flash RIL on sense based roms..but after this all my problems solved..is there any harm to device flash the RIL on sense based rom ????
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Rule of thumb,

If it's a GB sense rom then yes, you need to flash the matching ril with the radio.

If it's a non sense rom then you don't flash any rils.

With ICS/JB roms, sense or not, no rils either. I always forget this one, but no, I don't believe you flash any rils for those roms.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
issue fixed.
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
Flashing RILs on Sense-based ROMs is fine. Android Revolution IS a Sense-based ROM. Therefore, flashing RILs on Sense-based ROMs is fine. I understand it's normally pointless on ICS/JB ROMs (like Android Revolution), but I don't think it hurts. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
I came across a post on the JellyTime thread and may know what caused that weird problem from earlier. Go to Settings -> Developer options -> Root access. There are 4 options: Disabled, Apps only, ADB only, and Apps and ADB. Could it be that the different ROMs allow different levels of root access by default?

EDIT: sorry, double post.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Maybe, I don't know. I'll look into it if I remember and when I go back to an ICS/JB rom that gives me that issue. Thanks for the info.

The issue I was having was with eclipse. I had such a hard time, I ended up uninstalling it three times until I got it fixed. After that I deleted the link to the blog I was following from the OP. Thanks to that I learned that any tutorial can not replace the main source. Something I should have remembered.

Nearly 7 hours later and I still haven't finished learning how to build my first app. :victory: On the bright side, I am understanding. :highfive:

Edit: Correction - I thought I was understanding.
[Desire HD General] montyjosh:
after flashing new radio 26.17.14.11_m my signal work so perfect but my battery drain more than previous..last night i calibrate my battery with this matho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skfS2RIsXoc ..now i wake up in morning..8% for 7 hours without any use..is this normal ?? suggest me suitable radio for my desire hd..my location is India
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
Battery calibration effectiveness is a myth. Like I said before, for radios check the radio thread. And again, the battery issue could be a bad flash; try reflashing your ROM.
[Desire HD General] montyjosh:
ok..if i reflash my rom do i need to reflash RIL again
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
8% in 7 hours is quite good in fact.

Quite hard to improve.

I believe I mentioned how to deal with battery issues in one of my replies to you. Find it.

In the second post you will find a link called random links, look at the first two links in that post.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=16808932

Read this, but don't ask questions about that. I've never done it.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] montyjosh:
ok..thanks for the link
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Don't get me wrong and I didn't mean to sound harsh. Since I haven't read that guide I wouldn't be able to help you with it.

If battery life is your main concern then flash a rom without sense. But then you'll lose sense and it's functionalities.

I'm sorry for having lost my patience with you, but it does get frustrating that you keep asking the same questions over and over again. If you aren't reading the answers that are provided to you.... Well, you get the point.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] montyjosh:
i dont mind..i know u want to help me..sorry for my bad
[Desire HD General] glevitan:
montyjosh, how long have you been using the new radio before assessing battery life? And also how long have you been running the rom? It usually takes time to settle both the radio and Rom in order to have some conclusions. I will be say that a rom needs about a week to settle whereas the radio might take about 2 or 3 days. DHD / Inspire 4G have horrible battery life, so don´t expect to be running a sense rom for 3 days without charging.
[Desire HD General] montyjosh:
with minor setting now today my battery drain 1% in 3 hours which is quit good.

radio & rom flash 2 day ago..before flashing android revolution i had leedroid 5.1.1..which is sucks..when i flash new radio then in software leedroid says UNKNOWN baseband..and no signal..after trying alot no luck then i flash android revolution 7.0.4..now i m happy with my rom and radio..
[Desire HD General] glevitan:
That sounds like a bad flash. I used Leedroid and was smooth but much too stockish for my taste. Anyway, just let the device settle and you will be fine. If you are looking for battery performance then you should try an AOSP rom.
[Desire HD General] montyjosh:
may be bad flash..ok i ll..but my main moto is two way call recording which quit fine on android revolution with RCMIX kernels
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
After all this time, I gotta ask Glevitan, what does the hack kit involve? I never did quite understand it :D

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] glevitan:
hahaha..ok. It depends on the OS Version you are running. If you are on Froyo or GB 2.3.3 then the Hack Kit makes a radio downgrade to a previous version that has an security defect and can be exploited. In the case of GB 2.3.5 that exploit is not present and therefore you need the firmware downgrade. All those weaknesses have been patched in the last GB version for the Inspire 4G that is why you have to unlock the bootlaoder to flash an insecure boot image and then run the Hack Kit.

The hack kit uses binary tools that allow a temp root solution (Zergrush, Tacoroot and gingerbreak) to lower then main version and then create a goldcard to flash a downgrade Radio or RUU depending on the above. Once you have flash the exploitable firmware then it is easy, removes security from the partition and injects SU. Then updates the radio again to the lastest GB radio and you are done...
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
I know I'm going against the guide by saying 'I don't know/remember' :D - but if I were on Gb 2.3.5 how do I find out if my firmware was downgraded? What are the disadvantages of having it downgraded? And how can it be upgraded? By any chance would that be the hboot?

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] glevitan:
If you were on GB 2.3.5 then you will have 2.3.3 after the downgrade. The reason is that the latter is exploitable. Probably some functionality has changed between 2.3.5 and 2.3.3 but as you are trying to root and S-OFF you will probably flash a custom rom so you can revert back to 2.3.5. And even you can reflash a Stock 2.3.5 rom and you will still be S-OFF, so then you can flash SU from CWM. You can even flash HBOOTs which inlcudes the modified ENG S-OFF HBOOT by HYUH in the Hack Kit.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
That I know. What confuses me is the part regarding the firmware.

:rolleyes::p:D:beer:

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] glevitan:
Why? what is it?
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
That part.

Ahhhh..... hahaahaaaa, nevermind. I just googled it. Firmware is the OS. :victory:

I had always imagined the firmware being some magical circuits, chanting while leprechauns danced around fire as they poked their tridents into the software. Or pink unicorns holding the phone on their shoulders as they skipped around on some acid trip or some hallucinogenic shroom.
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
It is?? I always thought the OS was software. But then again, I have no idea what an example of firmware is... I always thought it was kinda like drivers. Learn something new every day.

EDIT: I have come to a decision concerning how to expand my Android knowledge. When I see rooting posts I am going to guess what the right answer is. Then I'm going to wait until glevitan shows up and stalk him and check my answer. ;)
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
I think they just do it to mess with us, giggling behind their screens saying "I wish I could see their perplexed faces".

Instead of saying

He/They could easily say

Not only is it easier for us, it's even shorter to say. As I said, there they are giggling. :p

Edit to your edit: That's what I used to do :D
[Desire HD General] glevitan:
:D

hahaha that was not that bad. If you go to the Galaxy forums you don't actually have Roms but firmware for the stock soft. The others are custom roms....it is the same.
[Desire HD General] montyjosh:
without any use my battery drain 1% in 8 hours but when i use my mobile normally (no gaming no browsing) like go in settings & check apps or see calander then it drain 1% in 2 mints..i dont understand that kind of behaviour of my battery..is there any solution ? or is this normal ?
[Desire HD General] glevitan:
Battery drain is always assessed with the phone in standby. There's no way to test the battery while the phone is in use...The normal drainage should be about 1% every 3 o 4 minutes if you find the stats that users post. Use the current widget app from the market to follow a .txt log file about your drainage. This post might also be useful:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1226016
[Desire HD General] montyjosh:
thanks 4 the link its very helpfull for me
[Desire HD General] glevitan:
Ok, @Teichopsia I am ready to come back...An update of the guide is on its way. I will add the kernels links and battery issues that have not been covered in there. What do you think? :good:
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Sounds good. Perhaps you can add an index on your guide on the first page so people can know what is what on which page, up to you. Without the index it will force people to read the whole thing.

I'll probably stop posting as much and try to learn a few things. It kinda sucks when I ask a 'dumb' question and get ignored. I'll still be around as usual, reading.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
sounds good, good job with the guide :good:
[Desire HD General] glevitan:
Thanks fellas...the update is already on. Have added some links in the kernels paragraph and also a new section covering battery drain issues. And because Mr. Teichopsia was requesting it...the new Table of Contents is now in the first page. :silly:
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Good this thread is going on really good. I will find a way to contribute something good. Any ideas?
[Desire HD General] GuyInTheCorner:
Perhaps a guide on themeing?

Sent from my inter galactic super fantastic communication device.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Yeah. I'll look into it.
[Desire HD General] inspiredbyhtc:
Guys, I have 4 tests next week and don't have the time to update my development listing, could one of you look here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1610483 what roms are missing and reply to me with the name, dev and link to the thread? Its a lot to ask but I wasn't able to updated it last weekend and its starting to get outdated.

Thanks in advance
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
It seems as if there isn't an option to set "jump to last read" as in the xda app when browsing from pc.

Thread Display Options

Can I change the order of posts?

You have a choice over how you view threads. When you're in a thread, look at the top bar. On the right hand side you'll see 'Display Mode'. Click on this and it lets you change how posts are ordered.

You have three choices:

Linear Mode - posts are displayed chronologically, usually from oldest to newest. Posts are shown in a flat mode so that many posts can be viewed simultaneously. It is possible to change the ordering by changing your preferences in the User CP

Threaded Mode - a tree is shown along with every post. This shows you the relationship each post has to the others. It's easy to see who responded to whom. Only one post is shown at a time. By clicking on a single post in the post tree, the page will show that post and all posts made in response to it.

Hybrid Mode - This is a mixture of the linear and threaded modes. The post tree is displayed as in the threaded mode, but many posts are shown at the same time as in the linear modes.

@GuyintheCorner - nice to see you again.

@Glevitan - I'll check your guide again later, you are missing a word here and there in the update. I'm just surprised no one else on the team notices such things. Am I the only one proofreading it?

@everyone else - It would be nice to see guides on scripts (edify scripts - what it does and such), how to modify a downloaded rom, creating flashable zips, how to modifiy a zip file, and whatever else I can't think of right now. Things one would need to know, stuff that one would do right after glevitans guide.
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
I read through it and figured typos and grammar weren't a big deal. Should I report stuff like that?
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
:rolleyes:

I usually report it through pm :)

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] inspiredbyhtc:
I was doing a aroma installer tutorial which included the basics to edify, Its about three months old and I lost the lastest copy but I uploaded an old one into gdrive, if you have any suggestions feel free to pm me.

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B8vYKlGSMlpTdHlFZlhXb0tGSWc/edit

Edit: Now that I have looked over it seems that the file I uploaded is even older than I thought.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Which doesn't mean I did. Let me know if you did or didn't, I'll take a second look when I have a chance in the case you don't.

Edit: init.d and whatever else would be nice to see as well.

How to Use Init.d with Any Phone

[TWEAKS][SCRIPTS] Collection of 'em all - build.prop; init.d; etc.

Init.d ?

[STOCK]INIT.D support. No need to flash anything or even reboot into recovery

Android Partitions:

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] GuyInTheCorner:
Thanks shashank this will help me when I want to add some extra stuff to ROMs. Thanks!

Sent from my inter galactic super fantastic communication device.
[Desire HD General] sashank:
Sure thing :D Getting back to finishing it now.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Added a few links to the third post.

I would like to add something to the title to describe the thread. Any suggestions?
[Desire HD General] ArtMagic:
Thank You ...

After 4 hours of searching ,,,, i found your Post ...

I realy never more buy a HTC ... ("you can unlook your bootloader" only a bit .... ;-( )

Again "Thank You!" & the Community
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
http://m.androidcentral.com/why-you-ll-never-have-latest-version-android

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] GuyInTheCorner:
We don't seem to have that problem.... :) I ran jelly bean before it was cool...

Sent from my inter galactic super fantastic communication device.
[Desire HD General] glevitan:
I couldn't get a word of what you are saying...maybe reading a bit more would have done the things...
[Desire HD General] Nalty:
Hey can anyone helped me?

I unlocked, using HTCDev, flashed CWM, tried installing AOKP Jellytime, CM Jellytime and CM7. Flashing the boot.img every time. Didn't work so relocked and tried running an RUU but didn't work. CID is HTC_001

Help me :(
[Desire HD General] glevitan:
Yeah, I guess the main issue is not running or having a port of the latest version but the hardware being able to support it. Phones are like all other electronic gadgets, they get old and hardware is not capable of run the newer softwares without issues....the cycle of life, isn't it?
[Desire HD General] sashank:
Try flashing the ROM with 4ext recovery. It's the recovery we all use here and the best one. I've experienced problems with both CWM and TWRP. Follow the steps to flash the recovery.img and be sure to wipe all partitions before flashing. Wipe & format -> Format all partitions (except sdcard). You'll have to flash the boot.img with this too.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=31211732&postcount=396
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Well, I was refering to everything involved in making it work, as for a few members to understand and be patient in the dev forums.

In the first post you'll find how to make a bug report which would help us to understand.

What device do you have and what os?

In the seventh post you'll find a guide on how to flash the boot.img when unlocked using htc dev.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] sashank:
What do you guys think of the Nokia Lumia 920? I love how it looks. Similar to the Lumia 800 which was very nice too. Nokia has had great designs since god knows when. It would be a brilliant Android phone, if only. Makes me kinda sad when I think about it. :rolleyes:

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_920-pictures-4967.php
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
It is a shame. Nokia has always been quality phones (durable). Motorola does have a few nice ones coming out. But since I just got my Inspire a few months ago and I tend to keep phones for a few years, whatever comes out then will sure be a heck of a sweet thing. On the other hand, I do like them google glasses they are working on.
[Desire HD General] sashank:
Oh yeah. The Google I/O demo of Project Glass was the sh*t! Motorola's newly announced phones are nice. Both Droid RAZR HD and Droid RAZR MAXX HD (what long names :eek:). You saw the new RAZRi? I just watched the recorded livestream of the Motorola + Intel event. Basically RAZR M with a 2GHz single core Intel Atom processor and supposedly great battery life. In the demos it was very fast. I really want to see how it turns out in real life usage and how quickly apps become compatible with it. Also good to see that Motorola is easing up on their stupid locked bootloader policy. Maybe this will spur more development for their phones.

I got my DHD in January last year. I usually use a phone for 2-3 years before getting a new too. Find it quite pointless to change phones every few months or even every year. Can't ever be satisfied with anything at that rate. I had the N73 before this - loved it. My dad uses it now and it still works like a champ after 5 years. Nokia makes great hardware but doesn't match it with appropriate software. Screw Elop and his Windows Phone choice. They didn't have to use Android if they wanted to differentiate themselves. They had their own Meego, but they dumped it and chose Windows Phone. Now if that isn't retarded then what is?
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Edit: By the time we are ready to get new phones, all the phones we are talking about will be outdated.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] GuyInTheCorner:
Yeah I can vouch for that :) got my n95 8gb in early 2008 and it still works, despite going through water torture twice and being thrown about more times than I can count! But Symbian is getting old now...

Sent from my inter galactic super fantastic communication device.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
So, I created the room "ace think tank" on palringo.
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
So I have a noob question. In 4ext there is an option to format all partitions except sdcard. If I do that, and then flash a ROM (which I'm assuming does not include /boot), aren't I still missing /boot? Is my bootloader still there? Or is /boot and my bootloader two different things?
[Desire HD General] marsdta:
Yes your boot loader is still there . The boot partition that 4ext erases is where the boot.img of a rom is flashed. All roms contain a boot img as that's what allows the from to boot. Its the main reason people get stuck when doing htcdev unlock as cwr can't flash it during a normal from flash.

The boot.img contains the kernel and ramdisk
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
That's really interesting. I'm used to Linux, which keeps the bootloader (grub for me) in /boot, and I just assumed Android would be similar.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
http://www.appy-geek.com/Web/ArticleWeb.aspx?regionid=1&articleid=4425419

Greedy little bastards.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
I hate apple i really hate their overpriced ****.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
When will xda bring out their own phone? We've got plenty devs that could make good software and a ****load of testers and people willing to donate. There is a page (which I can't remember) where they will help get people to donate to help get a project started.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
That would be awesome and xda phone :eek:

With our own kernel and our own drivers and custom Roms i would certainly dontate to help such project. And buy the phone of course.
[Desire HD General] GuyInTheCorner:
I for one would kill to see an xda phone (not litteraly of course :P) anyone dreaming is any specs?

Sent from my inter galactic super fantastic communication device.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
At least an:

*Quad core processor.

*16GB built in memory.

*2GB of RAM.

*A really good graphic card.

*Screen like HTC Desire HD or bigger.

*SD card slot. With support up to 64GB.

*replaceable battery.

*Minimum 8Hr battery life.

:thumbup::D:thumbup:
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Don't forget the sd card and multiple frequencies. We could do with less internal memory and an oled screen. Kick *ss battery.

Kickstarter.com

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] 39FarmallM:
Apple would, more than likely, file suit. They are now more interested in iLitigation than selling iPhones.

Sent to a tower near you using ClearDroid and XDA Premium. :)
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Let us entertain the possibility of an xda phone. What would we need?

A company to provide us with the hardware.

Someone who can come up with a business plan.

A rom.

Testers.

Capital.

We can use the website mentioned above for the capital after we have set a business plan.

What else would we need?

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
Rom s is easy as we have many developers.

And I think there is more than enough testers to :)
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
So I'm thinking about making a flowchart-like guide for when people "brick" their phones, with links to full guides. Like, if you are S-OFF, go this way. If you can access HBOOT, go that way. Is that feasible? If so, can I try making one and checking it with someone?

EDIT: can someone take a look at this? I haven't linked anything yet.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Go for it.

By the way, age? Location? Phone?

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] marsdta:
That brings me back to the old yahoo chat days. Everyone spamming ASL?? Lol
[Desire HD General] bananagranola:
Never mind, then... Looks like I don't know as much as I thought. :P The one I posted above is probably too simplistic.