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[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
If you get one, how comfortable are you taking one apart? lol...of course I don't mean dissemble the entire phone, just the back cover. 2 things that interest me in particular is:

1) is the battery inside the same one as the RAZR (if so this makes using a RAZR MAXX battery possible). And out of curiosity if there is any warranty sticker that needs to be broken to remove the battery.

2) I know it says sim card is embedded but theoretically they sometimes count the battery door being no accessible as "embedded".
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] CornholioGSM:
...YES...do it ! :)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
its not just a matter of if teh battery is the same, the reason the razr worked with that "hack" is because they had the space in there to fit in the extra sized battery, this one due to its qwerty nature prolly wont.

MOTOXT897 is the model number btw :)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] :
Looky what I has
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
I don't understand, why would it being a qwerty matter? its not like the battery is in the screen portion of the phone. It is in the back. I have yet in my life to see a battery not fit into a keyboard counterpart if it used the same battery. If I am not mistaken he used a RAZR MAXX battery door as well. We might be able to use a RAZR maxx battery door too since the phone size is the same, if not there are other alternatives such as:

A) 3d print a new battery door, it will be plastic but I can probably make it removable battery door.

B) 3d print an all around spacer and buy some longer screws.

C) Buy a case for the phone, remove the back cover completely, snap on only the back of the case.(I did this with my mogul before)

We hate you too...

jk lol

So how is it? how is the keyboard in comparison to other keyboard phones like epic and TP2?

And willingness to take it apart? lol
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] elconejito:
I'm interested in this phone partially due to international roaming. I'm curious since I've never actually done it... Ideally in another country I'd go pick up a prepaid SIM and install in the phone. But if there is no removable sim card (per a few posts back) how does international roaming work? Do you have to tell sprint ahead of time and use Sprint's roaming agreements = no prepaid (presumably cheaper) SIM cards?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
razr maxx dimensions 130.7 x 68.9 x 9 mm

razr is 130.7 x 68.9 x 7.1 mm

photon q is 126.5 x 66 x 13.7 mm

my point isnt if you could solder it in there or not, its a matter of the photon q is 13.7mm (we will round up to 14 for easier numbers) its a safe bet that since its a qwerty device it will be split in half (again this is just guesstimations, perhaps someone with the device could chip in? :P) so top layer is 7mm and bottom layer is 7 mm. that bottom layer has the keyboard and usually has the motherboard and battery as well, meaning that space is considerably limited.

the razr maxx was nothing more than just the razr with a bigger battery, this is a whole new device. if you get it to work then awesome, but it certainly isnt going to be done with teh stock battery cover
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
Sprint has roaming agreements, you can lower the cost of roaming in some countries with an international roaming plan(if they still offer it). Otherwise you just use it and watch as sprint empties your entire bank account. (The rates are crazy)

Maybe if we are lucky there is a sim card there under the battery door.

That is why I said there is a possibility, we need to open it up and see. I mean remember TP2 battery works on Evo. I also have other phones such as Droid charge which uses same battery as Replenish and etc. I am aware that extending the battery door will most likely be required. But considering that the battery size is exactly 1780mah(same as original RAZR) and not say 1700mah as the proton makes it possible it uses same battery as the original RAZR. If it is same battery as original RAZR, putting in a MAXX should be no problem.

Which is why I am asking people to confirm if it is same battery as RAZR or not lol

Here is what a RAZR battery looks like:

As you can see the power connector is bendable so the only thing that needs to be extended is the battery door if anything.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] :
I think the keyboard is better than the epic keyboard TP2 keyboard was still the best hands down although LG Cayanne is coming out soon too if u want to see pics of the with a qwerty pm me
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
You mean the medium end phone with WVGA resolution? :/

I'd like to see a phone with same specs as LG e970 or Xiaomi 2 with a keyboard for sprint, got any of those? ;)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] :
Yes I do but the keyboard on it was great but the phone sucked lol
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] :
No I don't have any of those lol
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] :
And no I am not gonna open it lol
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
stop quoting yourself and triple posting ya drunkie ;P
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] inimitableac:
My girlfriend works for sprint and she knows I have been wanting this phone since it was leaked. Today they started training with it and 30 minutes later she was asking me to order her one when I order mines next week. This means a lot because she's a DIEHARD apple fan girl. Apparently Motorola is using this phone as a entrance into less restriction to us flashers and more updates to the regular consumers by putting the least amount of non-aosp things on it. Also their being told to be well informed as sprint is going to push this as their goto phone for business people who need to hammer out emails daily.

I'm wanting this phone more and more.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] :
Hey I'll triple quote (hiccup) my (hiccup) self if I (hiccup) want to :- (hiccup) P
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
Haha don't worry. I have drunk posted on here before lol. Not always pretty
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] mattlgroff:
I sent you a PM not sure if it went through. Can you test the commands and put here the outputs of:

fastboot oem getvar all
fastboot oem get_unlock_data
fastboot oem unlock

I recommend re-dacting the numbers it can generate like uid, serial #, and the unlock data.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] :
Lol sorry for the confusion I don't have one was just playing with one
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Acapella75:
I'm confused as people keep saying the specs are a step back from the photon. Doesn't this phone have a S4 snapdragon processor? Isn't that a good deal better than the tegra 2 in the original photon? Besides the small battery, and the locked sim card, what's wrong with the phones specs?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
Yes its an S4 processor, it is not a step back from the photon and will completely destroy the original photon. What people are upset and saying its a step back from is from Motorola's other phones such as Atrix HD and Maxx HD which have 720p displays and larger batteries (at least in the Maxx case)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Puzzlegal:
Do we know the SIM card is locked? The Photon has a replaceable SIM.

If you have to use Sprint's international plans, it's not really an international phone. Their prices are crazy.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Puzzlegal:
Hmmmmm, apparently the sprint website says the sim card is locked and non-replaceable.

Why did they bother? Who wants a phone that costs more to use than it would cost to buy a new phone at the airport? Why put the radios in there?

Much less interested in the phone now, since I tend to travel.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] LexLuger82:
Phone sucks
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
Your mom sucks
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] flawlessbmxr:
Just got our demo in and here's a pic of a quadrant benchmark if it matters to anyone. Not bad
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
For stock that's beastly
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] A2CKilla:
I think the OG photon was and still is a beast, I'll pass on this shame of an "upgrade" going gs3 or waiting to see what's out in 2013 (when contract is over even though I have 3 upgrade..thanks parents,lol) especially since there's no lte in PA, so these phones are next to useless :/
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] flawlessbmxr:
Yea, I was surprised myself. I'm using an HTC Evo LTE (still own the original Photon) at the moment and ran a quadrant and got 5370. But I'm also rooted and OC'd to 1.8Ghz. But for stock 1.5Ghz, that's roughly the same as the GS3 and Evo LTE (shown in attached picture/ both phones are stock). Still has potential.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] perrotype3:
I preorder the phone should be here today at 3 out of work 3:30 i like the keyboard. I had the like galaxy s3 for 3 days seem to plasticity and simple this phone looks like it has character, dont care about the battery dont need sim so this phone is just right for me :D
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
the more i see of it the more im in love with that keyboard
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] tetrabyt:
XT897 is the model number. just got mine..

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You have good reason.. the keyboard is nice. the edge lighting makes it looks sweet. makes me want to turn off the lights everytime I touch it...
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
Haha I was just about to post the model number too lol. We just got ours in as well. Its heavier than the one the rep brought it. Kind of an awkward heavy...
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
BTW we also got jumbo photon Q. Bigger display. About 7 inches. I'll take a picture of it later
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] LexLuger82:
Your mom and the phone sucks

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Is this better than a s3?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dre89:
There's a unboxing up on phonedog of the Q

http://www.phonedog.com/videos/motorola-photon-q-4g-lte-unboxing/
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
She does suck... :( but more than this phone. I see you ***** about the photon and Motorola all the time but this phone is your answer. Comes stock with a quadrant score of about 5000. Unlocked bootloader. Best stock features/launcher. This phone is the answer to all the moto haters out there. The screen size is nothing to complain about. I'm sure it has something to do with the keyboard. And the lack of a removable sim card is nothing to complain about. The sprint nexus has no removable sim. Neither does the s3. The evo also a non removable battery.

Give it a chance :)

Edit: lex this wasn't entirely towards you. And I know your not *****ing. Just used you as an example :P I still like reading your post
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] findthedr:
apples to oranges. The phones you mentioned are not world phones.

Evo 4g LTE has a 2000 mAh battery. This is 12% larger than the photon Q.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
Cool? I'm buying mine because its a nice phone. I don't care that it can be used in other countries or that I can't remove the sim because its pointless if I could lol. My nexus actually outlast my evo lte the nexus has a smaller battery. I don't care what size the battery is. Its all about how well the phone handles it.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] findthedr:
It may be pointless to you, but not to people who travel internationally. Thus it is ridiculous for you to say, "the lack of a removable sim card is nothing to complain about."

The equivalent is if Sprint's data network crashed, and for me to tell others, "the lack of data on sprint's network is nothing to complain about since I dont use data."

well the photon Q has a 1785 mAh battery with 7.8hrs talk time. The photon has a 1700mAh battery with 10hrs talk time. For an embedded battery the photon Q's is small, and it doesnt seem to be able to "handle it" very well.

not cool.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] tetrabyt:
Try adbing into this *****... interesting... I can't wait to see how it gets rooted..
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a :)

as far as rooting it its going to be rather simple. need to get in contact with someone who has the device, root that one grab stock images for it, port cwm. with cwm people can unlock flash cwm and then use that to root (via su.zip or rooted rom). To anyone that would complain that they have to void the warrenty to root can go without, exploits dont grow on trees and with an unlockable bootloader thats more than what the photon has now (officially speaking). with an unlocked bootloader like that no matter what update they push out you can unlock and root all the same (its why samsung phones never need to worry about exploits to root).

with the exploit never going public it never needs to get patched by moto meaning it could be used later down the road on newer phones.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] perrotype3:
Love it
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] tetrabyt:
That link you posted is gone.. :(
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
They need to add to that "using your phone internationally" disclaimer with "Using your phone internationally, we will rape you, your immediate family and distant cousins with our insane roaming rates the minute you turn on your cell radio when your plane lands. Be prepared for a bill upon your return that will require you to take out a 2nd mortgage on your house if you in any way, shape or form use your phone overseas like you do in the states."

It's a travesty Motorola labels this phone as "World Friendly" since it is a bold faced lie.

Now I'll have to keep my Epic and Photon. One for overseas and the other to go back to when I can't stand my phone dying by 1pm.

And that's not even getting into qHD again but now you have permanent onscreen buttons taking away real estate, still only 1gb of RAM in a high end business device. It is a travesty that no one has made an uncompromised, uncrippled slider since the Epic. I would gladly pay $250 for the 720p screen, 2gb of RAM and a 2600mAh or so battery. makes no sense that it's the Maxxx battery or something anemic by last year's standards. Heck, the Epic Touch had an 1800mAh battery. It's like someone said, here's your new slider, tossed it on the table and said now shut the hell up. Product development really has zero clue what customers want, let alone need in a business class device.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
Can someone please port over smart actions. I've asked this on the RAZR thread.. they tell me to get a RAZR.. kinda rude about it. I've mentioned it on the atrix 2 thread.. just get ignored. I love I

The idea of smart actions. One of them being that I can set my phone to automatically text my girlfriend every morning "good morning babe" so she thinks I'm thinking about her at 8am
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
Get a RAZR :P lol

You mean this?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.contextual.smartrules

Since it is there you might be able to get away with pretending your phone is a RAZR and download it assuming it does not really on their framework.

That said if that is all you are trying to do, there are other apps capable of doing what you want like Tasker. or if you want something free just google for Tasker alternatives.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] XxReApErxX:
Are you guys really willing to buy this phone? It's not much better than the Photon... And you are forgeting how slow Motorola is with the updates, how long are they gonna make you wait to get JB? 1 year or more?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
I might if I get a good price on it. Not too happy about what they did with the battery and screen though :(

It is worlds better then the photon.It is not as good as some of the none keyboard phones such as GS3, OneX, LG e970 in terms of specs but it is the best keyboard phone we are probably going to see for at least a year.

It is a gamble on Google, they bought motorola so hopefully updates will improve. Don't expect improvement on the older models cause they have Motoblur in there. But the new phones are slightly modified stock. Also it has an unlockable bootloader.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] tetrabyt:
I actually like the Q. Its very different from the original. I have both and ive been comparing the 2.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
I use an app called on{X}. Ive never tried tasker but does it offer sending text automatically? Like when I get to work is there a rule that will send a text automatically to a set contact as soon as the app detects that I'm at a specific address like onX and smart actions?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
Photon Q jumbo edition. 7"
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
so then, what other slider phones should one opt for on Sprint? Please don't say some nexus slate since you probably don't get how valuable a keyboard is to some people that are actually business users who's phone is quite the productivity tool. And slow with updates? Name me one 3rd party manufacturer that is quick with updates? Would you prefer the mid grade LG that's coming?

And does ICS suck? It's just so horrible that the phone will be useless without the JB upgrade? Please. Some people's arguments are just ridiculous. I'm all for complaining about the anemic embedded battery, the missing gigabyte of RAM or last year's screen resolution made worse by on screen buttons. But your arguments don't really hold water. And with an unlocked bootloader, how long do you think it'll take for CM10 to hit? This is XDA after all.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
Tasker is like the original app that did all that for years. There might be a better alternative now I have no clue but back in the day everyone used tasker for these kind of things. They have a 7 day trial if you download directly from their site:

http://tasker.dinglisch.net/download.html

To note Tasker is much much more complex then smart actions because it has much more flexibility and features. But again there might be other free alternatives that meet your needs to replicate smartactions. Examples:

Rules Engine

AutomateIt

llama profiles

etc...

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Also on that pic, is that a Photon Q with a wrinkled wrapper or a broken screen? lol
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] bitbang3r:
Honestly? I'd roll the dice on a GS3 getting a case with slide-out BT keyboard at some point over the next 3 months.

The qHD screen totally kills the Q, and the soldered fakeSIM, diminished flash, & nonremovable battery just seal the deal & render it DOA. For whatever reason, Motorola (possibly at the behest of Sprint) totally gimped the Q & killed any possibility of it ever being a flagship phone I could live with for 20 painfully-long months.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
Don't hold your breath. So far I have yet to see a good keyboard case for ANY phone. And considering sprint has 3 new keyboard phones I am doubting any new ones will come any soon. So at this point I am waiting on a good deal through a 3rd party to maybe get one for cheap or if lucky for free. Because I agree it is not worth 200$ mostly since the Atrix HD has better features and costs 100$.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
Interesting. I'll have to try those out. And the pic is a jumbo sized photon Q. The black thing behind it is a standard office trashcan.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
lol, does it actually work as a full cellphone?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
Think you're kidding yourself that the GS3 will become the next iphone for accessories. Hell, I can't even get Mophie to return an email and phone call about building their cases for the Photon Q, Moto phones in general and the HTC One line. You'd think everyone would want to tap into that market.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] jrobgood:
Got mine. Unlocked it. I'll report back after figuring out how to root it.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Elixis:
What are the specs on that jumbo Q that is pictured? This is of interest...
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] hellot1M:
Lol no. Its just a really big display that plays a demo video on loop. We got so many people believing it was real. It is nearly an exact jumbo replica
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
You must break a lot of hearts with that thing :( lol
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dito33:
Get SMS Scheduler free from market does the same.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] bitbang3r:
Remember, unlike the GS & GS2, all GS3s have the same external form. It's been out ~2 months & has already outsold Sprint's #1 all-time success (original Evo 4g). It doesn't *matter* what other phones Sprint makes, because a BT keyboard case motivated by European or Asian-market GS3s will work just fine with a Sprint GS3. That's why Samsung putting an end to US-carrier silly demands for slightly-different models is such a huge selling point. For the first time, we have a phone on Sprint with the potential to develop a viable market for accessories with higher tooling costs than a TPU case.

In contrast, the Q will end up in the same sad accessory ghetto as the Epic4g & Photon... but worse, because it's just an uninspiring, sad "second-rate" consolation prize.

If the Q had 1280x720 OLED, I'd probably get one, then spend the next 2 years *****ing about its inadequate fixed battery. If it had a RAZR Edge-sized battery & real SIM, I'd probably get one, then spend the next 2 years *****ing about its qHD LCD and stingy flash. Fortunately (but sadly), it loses on ALL the above, so it's easy to pass on & just angrily throw a huge "WTF?!?" at Sprint for insulting us with such a mediocre, gimped phone.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] LexLuger82:
I concur
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
I resell for ProClip. I didn't forget. All I've listened to on these forums is how everyone who's switched hasn't missed the keyboard, blah blah blah. The demand needs to be there. Won't say it won't materialize, but I use my phone to actually work. Can't do it on a slate, and by the time it probably hits the gs4 will be announced. Slates are unusable for me so it's just not a buy and wait option. Plus, it's one more thing that needs to charge and possibly lose, and it'll definitely be a bulkier combo than the a slider. It then won't fit in a typical cradle most likely in the car. Won't fit in a belt clip holster, and so on and so forth.

Just don't see it being worth it (for me). And as I've mentioned, I have a line to burn, so I could care less if I don't keep it. I sell it and go back to my Epic for another year. It's not like the Epic is hurtin'. It just doesn't fill my gadget lust.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
Just out of curiosity, is there any good case with keyboard for ANY phone? Cause all the keyboard cases I have tried and seen for all phones were literally junk. I mean most of them are worse then even the worst keyboards.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
If I had a nickel for every iphone I saw in a bluetooth keyboard case I still wouldn't be able to get a gumball out of the machine.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gTen:
I know about that, but I don't think any of those are worth that nickle :/ (because they are that bad, but maybe I am spoiled)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dbpaddler:
That too. I told one of my reps who migrated away from the Evo Shift to the iphone, and he's definitely taken a few steps back productivity wise. I mentioned the keyboard cases, but he hasn't taken the plunge yet. I haven't seen stellar reviews on them in general so a bad keyboard can be just as useless as a slate itself. So it's bad enough I can't work efficiently on a slate, but to buy a slate, be crippled and hope a BT keyboard case comes out, and then hope it's actually worthwhile, and then hope the combination isn't some monstrosity is a lot to be hopeful about and not worth it in my eyes.

And it's just another thing to have to charge or drain the battery (even if it is minimal). If it breaks I'm SOL until it gets replaced.

Another and....why do people think it's a choice between the Q and the GS3? For me it's a choice between the Q or keeping the Epic. The GS3 or any other slate isn't even remotely close to being an option.