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[Nexus 7 Original Development] nuwan32:
for the past 24 hours that ive had my n7 ive been running PA+r23 and no sod's or anything so far.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
For what its worth I was running EOS for a while because CM10 had black artifacts in some apps in the earlier builds. I never had a SOD on EOS either. I've been using Franco kernel since r7 or so.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] rohan32:
Protip: Galaxy S2 != Galaxy S3
[Nexus 7 Original Development] espionage724:
No SoD's so far with r23 + CM10 M2 (so far being more than 24 hours, with about 20+ hours of screen off/idle)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] nuwan32:
If it's not supported now I highly doubt Franco will start developing for older phones, it's pointless
[Nexus 7 Original Development] toanau:
Leave wifi on all the time to fix SOD. its hurt battery life but no SOD
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sway40:
Leaving on Wi-Fi doesn't hurt that bad, I just got 4 days off one charge with 3 and a half hrs screen on time. I usually use it more but I've been busy, just showing how great the standby is.

Sent from my paranoid Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
Wifi sleep policy isn't a perfect theme for SODs either, certainly some seem to report it helping, but since plenty of people (myself included) have wifi set to turn off when the device sleeps and have had zero issues with SODs; there's got to be more to it. My guess would be manufacturing variance - not all devices are created equal and some of us have reallllly picky devices, but where is the variance?

I'm just thinking out loud here, but: Those with SODs on certain ROMs - do those ROMs have the default sleep policy at off when sleeping? Kernels with SODs - what wifi drivers and core voltages are they using (since I believe I read wifi is one of the components that receives power with the core)? If all that stuff ties together then wifi chipsets might be what isn't created equally. Maybe we'll get UV for CORE and can overvolt our devices as necessary to try and cure the SODs?

Did that make any sense? I don't know.. it's late. :p
[Nexus 7 Original Development] driguez:
R23 has been rock steady, no SODs as of yet. Been running it w z1gakly CM10 based ROM.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] AlleN7:
Really? The few days I had the previous version, everything was fine. I now have r23. Then today I took my N7 out of my backpack and I couldn't turn it on. I assume I just experienced SOD.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] matique:
It has to be manufacturing variance.. My n7 is perfectly running Franco with PA/smoothrom/glazed/CNA. Currently running pa 2.2 with Franco r23 no problems.

On a side note, Franco, i hope you implement gpu scaling and widget to the Nexus 7 soon!

Nexus 7 | Paranoid Android | Franco Kernel

HTC Sensation | Bruce's CMX | Bruce's Kernel.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
Maybe Franco should revert to stock voltages to help improve stability.

UV is fine but should remain optional. :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] .torrented:
Just flashed this on ParanoidAndroid 2.20 will see how it goes.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] irminsul:
Franco, I'm almost 24 hours on r23 and it's working as it should work. I'm not having any SOD on latest builds (wifi auto off). I will report later on battery, but it will be good, I lost 25% in 17 hours with 2 hours screen on (battery charged to 92%, not fully charged). Mostly watching videos with screen dimmer on and browsing.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] yukkio:
No problem with PA 2.2 + r23 (No UV) So I think the problem with SOD comes with UV (I had a few of SOD with UV)

BR.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Sengir:
+1

I'd love that.

Anyway PA 2.2 and r23 running smoothly so far..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Juvenall:
Just ran into an SOD this morning after flashing r23 via the app on PA 2.20. This was it sitting over night for around 7 hours. After the forced reboot, it took a few tries to get it to even boot up.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
R23 running great here. Been a way for a while so ive only recently tested 13 22 and 23. Runnin 23 with latest pa all good. :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
Hi franco. I also posted this in pa thread. When my nexus is on charge i loose all sound. Anyone else get this?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] duyquang27:
2 days with this voltage, play game fine, no reboot, no sod, no freeze... :laugh:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DJLamontagneIII:
Survived another night :p on r23... thanks buddy
[Nexus 7 Original Development] fender90:
I've been using this since I bought the N7 (that was about r9 I think) together with Slim ROM from krarvind.

Never had a reboot, never had a SOD, never had any lag on any game, and the battery life is amazing.

How I wish franco could make a kernel for my phone, the Galaxy "Forgotten" Wonder :P

Kudos to the amazing developer!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
Voltages are pretty much stock at the moment.

I'll have to dig on that.

I have no idea about that, seems rom related as I haven't messed with any sound drivers in the kernel.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
I did a reboot and it fixed it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Anon1992:
My core 1,2,3 are always off. Is that normal? Does it affect anything? I just purchased the full version 2 days ago still unfamiliar with the functions.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
If you're going off of his app... when its just sitting there.. its only using one core if you start playing with it and flipping through the pages and go back to the one that shows the cores online/offline you'll see at least one come on. Its not just using one core... :silly:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] .torrented:
So far so of no SOD with first time ever flashing this kernel
[Nexus 7 Original Development] eugenechiuu:
On r23, deep sleep around 8hours drains 6% battery life.. no significant partial wake locks and mainly battery drain from kernel, is that normal?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] !crazy:
echo "4" > /sys/kernel/debug/tegra_hotplug/min_cpus

Do that and all 4 will be online all the time, if that's what you want.

I never had any problem with any version (Stock ROM, 4.1.2 ATM.) Of Franco's kernel. Actually that's the only one I am using all the time, since I got the device. The highest I OC the GPU was 600, but only for sort time. Otherwise I am running it on 520.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DZonikg:
I am on P2.2 and R22 and did not have any SOD or so ever,i am happy with it so dont see why to upgrade only until that flash thing fix.

I have questjon,if i set to min 4 cpys to be always online whow much would that hurt battery
[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
what is the kernel wakelock that keeps the device up longest?

wlan_rx_wake? If so thats not a kernel problem - its a wifi network or settings problem.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] .torrented:
Is I just my device or is there only 2 I/O Schedulers bfq and deadline with this kernel?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] noneabove:
I'm not sure if this is in the latest update but ever since 23 I haven't been able to remember to plug my tablet in at night XD I'm not sure if that's indicative of battery life improvements or just me being forgetful and thus being unable to though-roughly test battery life for a days use :rolleyes: either way performance (besides scrolling through some things including chrome, xda, and reddit) has been smooth :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
It'll destroy the battery... more than likely. I wouldnt touch it.. i already explained it to you. It doesnt really only use one core. It will hotplug (turn off) uneeded cores depending on how it sees fit. If you want it to use the other cores more often in the kernel app turn CPUQuiet Governor to Runnable. By default its on Balanced.

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No those are the only two I/O's that Franco includes in his kernel. BFQ is by default and is recommened. Its been tuned for flash devices.

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Ditch Chrome.. it sucks use the Stock android Browser its much smoother, XDA is not bad but it will lag with large amounts of text/images are present i would blame the app personally.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Tomson74:
This probably has been answered, but guys, can I run Franco Kernel r290 with the current release of Paranoid Android?

Thanks in advanced
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
r290? We are only on r23.. i think your confused this one with the galaxy nexus thread..?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] noneabove:
Ughhhh don't wanna swiiiiiitch haha... I might try stock one until chrome gets update more though.. But my point would be that in 22 scrolling was smoother in these apps, not completely smooth since as you say chrome isn't that smooth, but smoother than 23
[Nexus 7 Original Development] !crazy:
It will drain battery faster. How much, check yourself and report back : ). But seriously why should you do that?

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I can't remember but Franco reverted default settings back to stock GPU frequency, if that happened with r23 that could explain it. Check if something more changed regarding settings and set it back or configure how you like.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] .torrented:
yea with r23 the GPU Clock is 416MHz
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DZonikg:
Only game that has some lag sometimes I found is GTA3 ..I see that when running is only on one core ..can tou tell me how set governor manualy in sys folder ..in my country we can't buy apps ..we don't even have a paypal..

Chrome is so slow..stock CM10 browser blows it away so I dont now why would anuone use it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] danielvc:
Oh god. I thought that you knew that. Now via fastboot flash the original boot.img (extract it from your rom, it's called boot.img), your device will be recognized by your computer. you can even flash it with a toolkit you've probably used to unlock/root it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ceramista:
I´m not sure Kernel got flashed. Had done backup yes. I pressed Recovery and now it got stuck on the belly up android with red exclamation mark. OK. got it back to Green laying down. Again please. Options are: Start - Restart bootloader--Recovery.

REcovery leads to an exclamation mark. ... I´ll be forever grateful for your help.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] danielvc:
That's your bootloader. Connect the Nexus 7 (when bootloader is active) to your pc. Download this tookit and flash the stock boot.img that came with your rom (it's in the zip file). You can do that via option 'flash boot.img'. If you seriously don't know what the hell i'm talking about, just install stock rom via the same toolkit. You'll lose your current rom, but it will boot up.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ceramista:
I know some things, not otheres.:)

I screwed up because I tried to flash with tool kit. With the Gnex I went the hard way. Just got lazy on the N7. When toolkit asks where I want to flash is it in System? Boot? Bootlader ? ( Now this seems like a really stupid question but one I don´t know the answer to)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] danielvc:
a kernel is boot (boot.img), so select boot.img. And relax: when you're in boatloader, everything can be set back to normal :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ceramista:
Don´t know what else to do. Used toolkit to flash to stock recovery. Said it flashed. Still stuck on the Google unlock screen. I think I´ll go find a tall bridge now. :(

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Doing that now. Downloading Stock ROM. Thank you again. We´ll see how it goes. Maybe I can bypass that tall bridge :)

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THANK YOU. danielvc AND airmaxx23. Your help was priceless. Got it back to factory specs.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] t_007_v2:
If you seriously don't know what the hell i'm talking about, just install stock rom via the same toolkit.

ROFL. Karma is patience and what you give is what you receive. good things will surely come to you for helping this lad.

cheers
[Nexus 7 Original Development] danielvc:
Well, he's happy and that's what counts, you troll.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
Will you be dropping a new kernel anytime soon franco? I hate to ask but flashing your kernel is very fun :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ceramista:
I´m glad you enjoyed it.:) I got a few more whites!! :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ceramista:
Got that right. I am HAPPY and yes danielvc good things will come your way, when they do you´ll remember me. My last option was to bug franco, he is my neighbour but I didn´t have the courage to bother him and I´m glad I didn´t. I´ll use that "card" only when I´m at the top of the bridge looking down at the Tagus River. Hope he´ll come and save me then. :) . For that not to happen I need the app Francisco, hear me?:)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] psyren:
Just tried flashing this with Xenon HD 8. It hangs on the boot animation, and won't proceed. Anyone else experiencing the same thing?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] airmaxx23:
The kernel isn't made for CM10 ROMs.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] phydo:
Furthermore, I think fastboot and adb are easier ways to do some things. Def worth a look.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] drose6102:
Made a backup. Flashed kernel, all is well. Am going leave f sync off for the time being

Thank Franco, I love your kernels on the gnex and swear by them. The updater app is great as well, makes it easy to check for nightlies and change log
[Nexus 7 Original Development] wildestpixel:
Great stuff - one of the reasons I pulled out of my G Note was the nonsense that went on with a load of Note (ab)users abusing Franco and making demands. Now I'm back in Nexus territory of kinds I feel less likely to be in that kind of crap storm.

Having the kernel as a straight boot.img to fastboot flash prevents (plenty of) idiots too. Its good that compiles of this kernel don't spit out a dedicated wifi bundle like say a Nexus S kernel for that purpose.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] psyren:
Xenon is based on AOSP.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
Yep. Im coming back home today, I hope to get the app compatible with the N7 when I get back and a new kernel as well.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
Good stuff. Cant wait :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Tomson74:
Sorry my bad. Long day at work.

I am assuming r23 will work with Paranoid Android ?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
Correct
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Maceone:
Been using r23 with PA 2.2 since release... Last 24 hours with 100mv under volt...also ran 2 benchmarks. It's been stable and no SOD.

Thanks for your time and effort.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] nuwan32:
Yea gta 3 is the only laggy game I've seen. It's unusually laggy for some reason, if it only uses one core that can explain it. Hopefully it can be fixed soon
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Anon1992:
My phone froze sometimes when I watch some videos on mx player, had to hold the power button and reboot. Anyone got that? And I got my first sod earlier . It is strange because it has been running fine for 2 days. I flashed the new gapps last night not sure if that has something to do with.

Ps didn't mess with oc uv or anything
[Nexus 7 Original Development] !crazy:
Why don't you try how it behaves when more kernels are active or chaning CPUQuiet Governor to runnable?

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Try changing memory limits (just guesing), franco's lmits are looking (31,40,80,80,200,400) little aggressive to me. I saw somewhere, probably in GN thread, somebody made connection between some freezes and those settings.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] .torrented:
im not sure if its just me but no matter what GPU intensive game i play with this kernel only CPU 0 is running the other 3 appear to be offline via System Tuner Pro. when I flash the stock kernel that comes with PA they are active when I play games like ShadowGun and GTA III
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sahshah:
Flashed r23 on CM10 with tablet UI. Your kernel is amazing, its smooth and fast! Bought your app from play store :)

If anyone could share the ideal settings to set in franco kernel updater app would be great!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] espionage724:
CM10 with tablet UI? Do you mean actual CM10, or something like PA?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
No its in android development. Its a simple compiled cm10 modded with tablet ui.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] M3drvr:
I find it amazing how so many people are getting SOD's. I haven't had a stitch of problem with this kernel. And I'm UV to - 125 all over. Won't use the tablet for 16 hours. Wakes up no problem. Running with PA 2.2 too. Good job Franco!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
Franco i dont know if you would be intersted in this but i try any way ;) would it be possible to have gpu frequency implemented in the app and be able to set it for diferant power modes? Eg i have a gaming mode and would have gpu set to 550 and cpu set to max freq. And a general mode would be 416gpu and 1100 max cpu freq and so on there just my personal preferences. Hope you get what i mean.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] eugenechiuu:
You're lucky to have gotten a better variant? Not everyone's device is the same..I only stopped getting SOD after I set Wifi as always on... Before this SOD on every single version I tried..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] driguez:
On average, how low are you guys under volting?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DZonikg:
When change min cpys to 4 gta runs much much better ,almost totaly lag free ,i stil don't now how to change that cpy quiet governor to try,i also dont mind to change min cpy value only to gta and then back to 0 for batter life ,i notice that in tegra showing demos like glowboal all 4 cpy are online,my 2 cents are that gta is not that cpy intensitive so it only run on one core ,but sometimes when there are a lot of thing happening cpy usage jumps and in that delay bettwen turning on other core lag show,i dont now how much time tegra needs to online the core ,if its minimal then this fall on the water.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] M3drvr:
I'm at -125. But I guess I got a pretty good device. I think - 50 is more normal
[Nexus 7 Original Development] driguez:
OK, I'm at -125 as well I was just wondering what's the average on this device/kernel.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
Under volting that much is pointless... I'm beginning to think UV is pointless altogether.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sway40:
UV has always been pointless

tappin on the aokp running Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
Not entirely.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] M3drvr:
I find it helps with cutting down on heat a fair bit actually.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
Which more than likely makes the CPU struggle... and makes battery worse.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] M3drvr:
Then why bother with smart reflex?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] nuwan32:
It's a common myth that CPU undervolting bottlenecks or stresses the CPU, it doesn't. The CPU will operate the same at 1 GHz with 900mV or 1200 mV, as long as it is enough to work, or else it auto crashes
[Nexus 7 Original Development] espionage724:
I was under the impression that if the CPU didn't have enough power, the device would power off, or just stop working?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] .torrented:
Nah it hard freezes. Now what kills CPU's is when people overclock and increase the voltage, if gone too far, however it will shorten the life.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] qu3becker:
Well, what is making the battery worse is the instability the undervolt creates.

Seems like my Nexus 7 cope with Franco and Trinity's undervolting (if any) since I never had any SOD or stability issue. I even tried Paranoid Android to see if this ROM was the culprit but everything is fine.

Thank you Franco, the battery life is incredible and the performance is great. I bought your app in support.

Sent using Kirby's Warp Star.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] icytrey:
Just updated your app. Nice work. Thank you.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Lozzo:
No SODs for me, so far, with wifi sleep set (which used to SOD on me on a regular basis) now I'm on stock rooted 4.1.2

What I noticed previously is that turning location services off stopped wifi from kicking in all the time and it was this that was causing the eventual SOD for me. I don't think it was a problem with the actual ROM, but more how other apps interact with it. I noticed the Met Office (weather app for all you none-UKers out there) was also waking wifi up in the background.

Anyway, I can only imagine that apps maybe interact in a subtly different way with 4.1.2 as it's been OK so far. I still have wifi kicking in all over the place whilst asleep with 4.1.2 mind you, but not fatally as it was with my previous setup.

So, I still turn wifi off when I put the device to sleep just for the extra battery savings. And, what a saving too. I charged it, put it in it's sleeping bag and I've not used it for 2 days now, and upon waking it up it's still on 92% battery.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Hussainally:
Hey Franco...great job so far.if u could just up the GPU slightly like 22 I would be much obliged.thanks
[Nexus 7 Original Development] mustbepbs:
You can do it yourself if you follow the directions a few pages back. Just involves editing the gpu_oc file. Search the thread and you'll find it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Hussainally:
Hey ho...just updated app and I think u can do it even more simply from there...kudos
[Nexus 7 Original Development] franciscofranco:
Yes. Its not set on boot as of yet, after I get enough reviews about that feature and if its working correctly I'll add a set on boot checkbox.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
I've never been a uv kinda person, only if whatever setup iz using ran hot I'd kick it down -25--45 never below that, always seemed enough to stop heat for me. No heat w this on either mine or my sons N7 so no need to UV in my opinion..

I've been using Eos #34 and my sons using Eclipse rom w/ r23, not one issue, day #4. Much tks!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Hussainally:
Well its working great so far...yup doesn't stick on boot...and guess what I dont reboot...lol
[Nexus 7 Original Development] friedsonjm:
OK, my review is... GREAT! I'm running GPU at 600 and all is well. Would like it to survive reboot. jf

UPDATE: Even with GPU set to 484 my system is much improved, particularly with Home Screen, which at stock GPU setting is lagging on screen redraws. System temp is 87.2 F, so far, I'm not sure how much is 'too much,' will see...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
Thanks for a great app update. Will be updating my review in the playstore. Its a bit outdated.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DZonikg:
I instaled R22 half hour after i bought tablet in store and after 6 days its still on the first boot,i did not reboot it one single time nor it reboot it self,484 gpy all the time.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
Delete.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DJLamontagneIII:
Very nice surprise to wake up to the app update :D..... Will definitely update my review
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
Franco. Should hi speed freq be set to the same as the cpu freq i have as max? Eg i use 1300mhz so should hi speed freq be set the same?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] airmaxx23:
I know some of the available GPU frequencies are 416, 484, and 520, what is above 520? Also, can any frequency in-between be used or just the set values?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] !crazy:
That's up to you. You can play and try different settings in different scenarios. He has chosen default settings probably according to what he thinks/feels is best setup for most of people/hardware.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
I've seen 550 600 666 700 750
[Nexus 7 Original Development] airmaxx23:
Thank you, any idea if you can use any value in-between?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
Im petty sure it doesnt matter. Just saying the ones that i've seen people use.