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[HTC One S] jmitr:
Ahhh the written word, so easy to convey your intent and meaning.

I meant, not everyone is happy with the storage. NOT that everyone is unhappy about it. There are plenty of threads about this and they are evenly split between people wanting more and fanboys spewing "just live in the cloud and organize yourself better". Yeah, lots of people buy the lowest model Iphone and Galaxy phones. Lots also buy different models with more storage. Not everyone is happy with 2gb for apps and 9.8gb for storage when a smartphone is meant to replace your music player, camera, etc, or maybe not everyone is always connected for using the cloud. As well, not everyone is happy about a qhd screen for a 4" phone instead of the lcd 2. I agree with you that the One S has a georgeous screen, especially compared to the S3.....but hold it side by side to a One X and for me the any comparison ends there, the One X kills everything for its screen. The same panel and resolution on a 4" would have an amazing pixel count.

You sound like you have buyers remorse and will defend everything about the One S no matter what. OR....you are truelly happy with it. Good for you, not everyone absolutely loves the One V,S, or X as is or HTC would NOT be taking the dive it is. If you think advertising alone is the only reason for HTC's woes, great that is your opinion. Other people may want a removable battery, more storage, a good screen, or other things to commit to a huge buy. If HTC's phones do not offer those things and others like Samsung does, yeah people will buy those instead.

I am a fan of HTC, but this thread is about why HTC is not selling phones..........not just the One S, but all phones. I'll try my bullet points again:

One V: Love the 3.7" form factor, sd card and FULL size sim card? Entry level specs, no compass for you

One S: Love the 4" form factor? Same as before, qhd screen, one storage option

One X: great, but low storage for North America

No removable batteries for any

I'm sure many other could add to the list

One more point, dear HTC, we, the users of your phones are your customers......not the carriers. Figure that out and maybe you'll do better. (EVO 4G LTE........great name!!!, locked at&t bootloaders, no option to toggle lte off for some carriers (hello at&t)....many other examples)
[HTC One S] renehd2:
Ahhh the written word, so easy to convey your intent and meaning.

I meant, not everyone is happy with the storage. NOT that everyone is unhappy about it. There are plenty of threads about this and they are evenly split between people wanting more and fanboys spewing "just live in the cloud and organize yourself better". Yeah, lots of people buy the lowest model Iphone and Galaxy phones. Lots also buy different models with more storage. Not everyone is happy with 2gb for apps and 9.8gb for storage when a smartphone is meant to replace your music player, camera, etc, or maybe not everyone is always connected for using the cloud. As well, not everyone is happy about a qhd screen for a 4" phone instead of the lcd 2. I agree with you that the One S has a georgeous screen, especially compared to the S3.....but hold it side by side to a One X and for me the any comparison ends there, the One X kills everything for its screen. The same panel and resolution on a 4" would have an amazing pixel count.

You sound like you have buyers remorse and will defend everything about the One S no matter what. OR....you are truelly happy with it. Good for you, not everyone absolutely loves the One V,S, or X as is or HTC would NOT be taking the dive it is. If you think advertising alone is the only reason for HTC's woes, great that is your opinion. Other people may want a removable battery, more storage, a good screen, or other things to commit to a huge buy. If HTC's phones do not offer those things and others like Samsung does, yeah people will buy those instead.

I am a fan of HTC, but this thread is about why HTC is not selling phones..........not just the One S, but all phones. I'll try my bullet points again:

One V: Love the 3.7" form factor, sd card and FULL size sim card? Entry level specs, no compass for you

One S: Love the 4" form factor? Same as before, qhd screen, one storage option

One X: great, but low storage for North America

No removable batteries for any

I'm sure many other could add to the list

Enviado desde mi HTC One S usando Tapatalk 2
[HTC One S] jmitr:
Yup. storage, never an issue with phones before as Androids almost always had sd cards.

pentile matrix. I'll give you that one, I kept saying lower resolution and samoled versus lcd2. You are correct most reviewers only mentioned the pentile matrix. Still, you have to admit the One X panel on the One S would be awesome. And yes, to eat more crow your correct about the 4.3"

I only mentioned sd card, removable battery, etc because that may matter to other people (not myself personally). This thread is about wHy HTC does not sell phones.

Yup, and it has various storage options therefor does not need an sd card. If HTC offered a 32gb One X on a carrier in Canada, I would own one right now. There is no choice AND no sd card.

I agree, but that is not what I meant. Want an S3? it is virtually the same on all carriers. If HTC made their phones to suit the consumers and advertised directly things could be different.

Well, you have all the answers and all other opinions are wrong. I agree brand promotion and marketing is part of the problem, but only part. Obviously you disagree. If we have the definitive answer, time to close the thread!
[HTC One S] Arsaw:
1)HTC never go big in advertisement and sales is growing double digit for the past few years. So that's no key reason for poorer sales this year.

2)I think the main reason for poorer sales is due to bad perception on HTC phones.

3)People started to get annoyed and confused with so many variants for HTC phones. Worst part is non of the variants beat GS2. Disappointment begun.

4)HTC chose to go against hacking community by applying S-On and lock Bootloader. This further disappoints people. Poor perception begun.

5)HTC rushed to launched One series hoping to gain market share by launching 1st quad core phone. But non removable battery and no sd card created unnecessary bad perception. People chose to wait and see how Sammy will retaliate on One series.

6)One series QC problems further tarnish HTC.

7)All these created bad perception on HTC phones. When this bad perception spread around, HTC losing very fast - 58% sales drop vs last year.
[HTC One S] Hunt3r.j2:
The problem is that HTC is trying to compete at the low and mid ranges. They shouldn't.

They should stop making devices are anything but high end. The One series should've been ALL high end devices. The One X should've gotten a microSD, the One S should've had 32 GB of storage or at least a microSD slot and possibly a 720p display, the One V should've gotten a qHD 3.7 inch panel, at least a dual core Snapdragon S4 at 1.5 GHz, a microSD slot, at least 16GB of internal memory, the same camera as the One X or One S, and a gig of RAM.

The fact that HTC is trying to make mid range or low end devices ruins their brand name over low end crap that people buy and end up hating. It's very simple. HTC needs to make all their phones high end in the One line. The only question is size.

If they want to make low end phones, they should just sell last year's flagship. That way, instead of having to support masses of phones ALL the time, they can just support their flagships and get the job done.
[HTC One S] slainbybeats:
Hunter, this is it. You are so right man! You Hit the nails head! If they would put a little better hardware in there devices, they would really dominate the market. For me the 16gigs in one S are enough, but most people seem to want more. I don't think SD slots are needed these days, but the internal storage should be more...

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[HTC One S] Terminator19:
If they make all the devices truly high end then they haven't targeted the different price markets and they would have been in a far worse position.

That is why we have the V, S and X and their current specs, something to cater for people who don't want to spend £500 or spend £35+ (at release day) on a contract. However, the problem is that they messed that up with the S and X, as I said before the S is also a high end device and surpasses the X in a number of areas and even beats the GS 3 in a few areas yet costs a good bit less.

There would be no point them increasing the specs of the V and S any more, especially giving a 720P screen to the S as then the prices would be the same as the X and they would loose even more sales.

They would be better of just concentrating on the one device like Samsung i.e. only 1 top end phone (like they did with the GS, GS 2 and GS 3) and to make sure it had everything required rather than having 3 top end/decent devices costing the same more or less and creating even more confusion.

Remember that is one of the other reasons for their downfall, having too many devices that were all more or less the same i.e. the desire range (they even admitted this themselves and said they would try to cut down on the amount of similar devices, however, they haven't............)

What should have been done, when looking at the S, V and X in terms of what HTC truly wanted regarding high, mid and low end is;

- for the X to have had the S4 chip (only reason they used quad was for marketing, cheaper than the S4 chip and most of the average joes will think "wow a quad core CPU" and impulse buy due to that) and the S to have had the current S3 chip

- the X should have had a SD slot with the current internal storage amount and the S should have either had a SD slot or the same internal storage as the X (not both) and the V should have no SD slot and 16GB internal storage

- All of them should have had removable batteries

- screens are spot on for size, res. and panel type (the S maybe should have had a RGB matrix instead though but apparently the pentile matrix is better for battery life, in which case then I would rather have pentile)

- RAM wise, again I think there all spot on

- camera wise, pretty much spot on, but in theory the S shouldn't have been the same as the X camera regarding either the MP or the lens
[HTC One S] renehd2:
Yeah I also think HTC never imagined that the htc one s would be as good as the x and s3 thanks to the snapdragon s4

Also they are starting to make a lot of phones again, so far I know:

One v, one s, one x, EVO LTE, desire c, incredible LTE, wildfire c, and I don't remember if there is more

One x and EVO LTE almost the same

Desire c incredible LTE almost the same

Samsung make a lot of phones, I mean A LOT OF DIFFERENT phones but only one flag ship all the rest are low range smarthphones not even middle range

Enviado desde mi HTC One S usando Tapatalk 2
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Yup, what they said they would avoid doing this year, they have gone and done again, got a whole new desire range and then all the different one series phones :( :confused:

They only needed the S, V, X and XL and then to release something to compete with the samsung note 2.

There are rumours that a revised X is going to be coming out as well.......

And yeah people think HTC is bad for the amount of phones that are released, go on gsmarena and compare the amount of phones released by both Samsung and HTC (since the desire and galaxy S, excluding the nexus devices), way way more by Samsung and the majority of them are absolutely crap, but you're right about Samsung there, they only have the one great device (the flagship phone) and the rest are all pretty crap, they put all their money into the flagship device regarding the marketing (only phone I see some ads for, however, not official Samsung ads, more the network deal ads is for the Samsung Ace and the only reason is because the deals are very good, not the phone) and don't really support their other phones at all where as HTC at least support a whole range of phones still and just don't bother with marketing at all really.
[HTC One S] jmcdonald58:
They're are many good responses here I can only speak to my experince with the devices I had G1/Hd2/Evo4g/MT4G/S4G/and curently have 3 Htc Devices

hd2/evo4g/One S with Google Galaxy Nexus -Bieng my 1st Samsung device which I will not go into much detail here but hands down the best of the bunch I just listed -Really the point for me was why did I make the switch from Sense to Android and here is my reasons

Htc QC has gone downhill IMO since the EVO/MT4G had 3 returns on the Sensation for dust under the screen??(REALLY)Swapped the One S after 1st week wifi calling wouldn't work (its running good now and actually pretty sweet

Development support still no s-off for the One-series limits development for the device althought the mass public could care -htcdev unlock really isn't necessary they should have at least 1 device as development phone like the Nexus for google -A sense setup and sold along the same ideal the nexus is would be a seller if they keep the price right

I hated leaving Sense but am glad I did Htc has alot to offer but they seem to be focused more on quanity than quality and I still have the One S which will get Jelly Bean ????I paid 349.95 for the GNex no contract unlocked the One S 199.95 with 2-year contract -Be nice if HTC had 1 device (flagship) that we could feel we could s-off/unlock/root -run custom roms as easy as it is with the nexus line I sure it would catch on RANT OVER
[HTC One S] Flipnfr3ak:
It's simple....Samsung is a better brand name...its all about the name. Apple and samsung is the top brand names...its simple
[HTC One S] mesutziya:
because samsung > htc... thats easy :) Also Im using Lg, I can say that Samsung > Lg too :D
[HTC One S] invasion2:
LG is pure ****.
[HTC One S] renehd2:
LG is crap man, I rather a Chinese phone than a LG phone :S

We all know Samsung is better known than HTC because Samsung sells so many Electronics, but of HTC make a good marketing strategy I can bet it would rise its sell so quickly, is simple:

htc spends its money making a lot of different (but equal) phones, instead of making few phones and spending the rest of the cash to make the people know about those phones

That would make the difference I think

Enviado desde mi HTC One S usando Tapatalk 2
[HTC One S] rubyman94:
I'm thinking about switching to meizu for a while. Im getting tired if sense.
[HTC One S] kenyw:
I think HTC's pricing is also a bit on the high side, relative to the phone performance. From what I see in the UK they are also not getting promoted as strongly. Samsung probably has better carrier relationships which means more subsidies which in turn leads to better deals on Samsung phones.

Comparing One X and SIII, feel in the hand is quite subjective. On paper the SIII has a bigger, removeable battery and expandable storage over the One X, that's not mentioning that the chip inside is also quicker (especially in the GPU department). But the prices of the two phones are similar.

Specifically to the One S you have issues like the chipping and to a much smaller extent the specification downgrade to the S3 chips in some parts of the world, these erode HTC's reputation and reasonably well informed buyers will think twice before choosing the HTC model over the Samsung one.
[Nexus S General] Miikessol:
I did not make this just spreading the word !!

Didn't see this no where on the NS4G Development section so I thought I'd post it here:D

CodenameAndroid official jellybean rom was avaible for ics 4.0.4 and now for 4.1. You can download it directly from there website or the download links I provided below :D

Changelog & List of features:

http://codenameandroid.com/forum/index.php?/topic/10-codename-android-321/#entry35

Downloads:

Updated 3.2.1

NS: http://codenameandroid.com/roms/stable/crespo/Codename-Android-3.2.1-NS.zip

NS4G: http://codenameandroid.com/roms/stable/crespo4g/Codename-Android-3.2.1-NS4G.zip

Gapps: http://developer.clockworkmod.com/downloads/2883/3342/CNA-JB-GAPPS-20120726-signed.zip
[Nexus S General] the1dynasty:
we'll see where this one goes...
[Nexus S General] Miikessol:
Everything working so far :D
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
I'd love to try flashing some custom ROMs to my phone. I did this with the ICS one but it was just a simple matter of putting the ".zip" file into my SD storage and going through the power button and volume up buttom directions. Is it the same thing with this one? or do I have to add a bunch of other stuff like CMW recovery and all these different type of things?:silly: I'm a true noob lol:o
[Nexus S General] Miikessol:
Yeah you gotta flash the ROM and gapps through cwm or twrp recovery
[Nexus S General] mikegleave13:
This is under the NS4G forum as team dirt unofficial...

Oops my fault... That's a port and this is official. :p
[Nexus S General] Miikessol:
Yeah lol :cool:
[Nexus S General] irishrally:
You never know, he might have actually tried it before posting ;)
[Nexus S General] Killasmoke:
The ROM is fast & nice extra features but no WiFi tether & can't receive MMS other than that it really good
[Nexus S General] Miikessol:
What device specifically I'm guessing not the nexus 7 rite?
[Nexus S General] Killasmoke:
Of course not I'm not a tard my nexus s4g no WiFi tether & can't receive MMS
[Nexus S General] antrobi3:
Everything's ok but i miss the Play Music app !

Link:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1533816
[Nexus S General] Miikessol:
Haha I wasn't saying u were just asking lol
[Nexus S General] Miikessol:
There removed it from the gapps because its available in the playstore
[Nexus S General] rener78:
In the first link of the OP the

http://codenameandroid.com/codename-android-3-1-0-released/

when you click on it you can choose the CNA for Nexus 7 if you want to download it
[Nexus S General] MRsf27:
does anyone know a good beginners tutorial of rooting the nexus s and adding custom roms and the process and ****?

EDIT : I have a question...

is there different methods of rooting your phone if you're on a different OS. I'm on stock jelly bean 4.1.1. so if i wanted to root this; is there a specific guide to root stock jellybean 4.1.1.?
[Nexus S General] Articudos:
3.2 released.
[Nexus S General] Miikessol:
Thanks just updated the links
[Nexus S General] navjottomer:
Rotation is not working for me. Is I am the only one?

Running with 3.2.1
[Nexus S General] Miikessol:
Is it just the notification toggle or using or did u try manually also in settings?
[HTC Sensation] ThizizKenny:
I have already rooted it and installed vipers 1.1.0 butbi don't know if my phone is s - off?
[HTC Sensation] badboy47:
This has been asked multiple times before. It wouldn't hurt to search.

Anyway, here is how you do it.

1. go to settings > power > uncheck fastboot.

2. turn off the phone.

3. Turn it back on and hold down volume down and power button at the same time. keep holding till you see the menu showing ur s-on/s-off info.
[HTC Sensation] ThizizKenny:
thanks
[General Questions and Answers] mac20dnangel:
Can someone modify this custom rom?

LU6200_163CN_Yang_0727.zip

I have already flashed it on my CP but it has some Chinese or Korean apps that I want to Change or Delete. I have tried to pushed and Change the CameraApp.apk but I failed to change it. I have successfully copied it to the system files but it doesnt appear on my application list.

Could someone help me up...

Thank you in advance....

Here is the link of the file...

kuai.xunlei.com/d/OPAHKLOCSBYD
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] needspractice:
I have tried basic apps on the market with no success.

Without root please... If possible...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
Not possible without root. There is a script in Sprint development that you can use.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] needspractice:
Do I have to use this script on a Rooted phone only?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
the app is called get my msl doesn't need root.weird because just looked and says my device isn't compatible but i used it. And where he says the codes are ##....# ours are *#*#.....#*#*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] needspractice:
I'll try that app again but I could have sworn I have tried it and it couldn't get the code I'll let you know if it works.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
It's been a while and i didn't see any instructions but the one i used i had to open the app and go to my terminal emulator, a few steps were involved
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] needspractice:
I have tried the Emulator app. I believe the Over the air updates have disabled that feature and have updates the security. I watched the you tube videos and have done it perfectly with no avail.

Also I just tried to download the app get my msl from the app brain web site witch linked me to play store but it said that it wasn't capable with my device. I couldn't find it going directly to the play store.

You know where I can get the app get my msl for my phone that works? I wonder if Sprint is blocking that app like its blocking Foxfi on the play store.

Like Foxfi though you can go directly to their site and download it bypassing the market place.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
Why don't you save yourself all this running around and check a few threads/videos on rooting? Qbking77 is amazing and has massive amounts of YouTube videos. I mean, everything you're asking for pretty much is standard for root. If you decide going that way, READ THREADS don't skim. I found watching qbking77 videos extremely helpful and held my attention better than the threads. Don't root using a toolkit. I repeat..don't use a toolkit! You need to know adb anyway and qb will walk you thru that too. Just don't play around in your files! I found that out with my first android. ALWAYS backup before you flash! You can most likely always restore if you screw up and is much easier than odin or searchung for the files you need to get running again.

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If you want to keep the stock experience then just don't flash anything. You'll become a flash addict like the rest of us tho. I guarantee it!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] needspractice:
I really want to keep it stock and I love it that way. I use to only flash to get portable wifi hotspots now that there is Foxfi I no longer need to flash. I just want to be able to force LTE on my Nexus I can't believe this is impossible to do. I could care less about phone calls.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] needspractice:
Can anyone get MSL code on Sprint Nexus without root?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
Here it is but you have to have root.http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1621993

*This Jedi master be a Ninj-ESS*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] needspractice:
So I have to root no matter what?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zeinzu:
Even rooted I couldn't get my MSL on 4.1.1.

Sent from my Stock AOSP Android 4.1.1 Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
I just did again the other day.

*This Jedi master be a Ninj-ESS*

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You could try calling and saying you're having a data issue...like can't connect and they will have you enter programming. Write down the six digit number

*This Jedi master be a Ninj-ESS*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zeinzu:
Whether using terminal or an app the results come up as a blank line for me.

Btw, aside from creating a resolve.config file with the contents of which DNS servers I wish to you, is there anything else I need to do to have them actually "be" used? Or any way to test to confirm they are?

Sent from my Stock AOSP Android 4.1.1 Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
Are you toro or toroplus

*This Jedi master be a Ninj-ESS*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zeinzu:
Toroplus. You've seen me around.

Sent from my Stock AOSP Android 4.1.1 Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
Did you flash that zip in thru recovery or just install the apk. I flashed the zip. Then went to terminal emulator

And did you su first in emulator?

EDIT and when you do the dialer part of this how are you going back to the terminal? I used recent menu and didn't back out of the dialer.

*This Jedi master be a Ninj-ESS*