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[Android Apps and Games] A Dev@Calsto:
Yupp. I was actually going to PM you telling you that you need to update your theme to the latest template. Otherwise it will just reject the old theme from applying ;).
[Android Apps and Games] acerkumar:
Any update?
[Android Apps and Games] jeremy.lievre@gmail.com:
November 8th update

Hello everybody!

So glad I received an update on the omega status bar, but it FC as I want to activate it !!

I can do whatever I want in the settings, but as soon as I switch the general switch on, it forces close ..

HTC One S - Non Root - Nova Launcher Prime
[Android Apps and Games] yeahthatswhatsup:
The update has pushed through, but the themes are no longer compatible. That sucks, because i really liked the jellybean theme!
[Android Apps and Games] Quinny899:
When I get the stuff, I'll update mine
[Android Apps and Games] yeahthatswhatsup:
Looking forward to it!
[Android Apps and Games] anazhd:
bought pro version but havent use it for a while due to some minor imperfection. the statusbar wont stay permanent on top, the notifications delayed and sometimes wont show up at all.

latest update didnt fix anything mentioned above.
[Android Apps and Games] RiteshArora28:
Force Close error on CM 7.2 on Galaxy Ace S5830.... :(
[Android Apps and Games] xips:
Updated app + pro license + themes....push ad detect [ apperhand ] * :mad:

fuq this noise
[Android Apps and Games] anazhd:
gee. pretty unfair :eek: . we paid for extra features and no ads. but i think until now there's no extra features and ads detected.
[Android Apps and Games] mDroidd:
Hey!

The guys @Calsto / Team Syndicate are working day and night to fix incompatibility issues. The ads are new, so it's possible that they will be removed for PRO versions in the near future.

I am building a theme kitchen for Omega, allowing you to build a mix-and-match theme with the click of a button, so the theme incompatibility will be fixed soon too.

And now don't complain anymore!

:p
[Android Apps and Games] A Dev@Calsto:
I appreciate you buying and supporting our app. Why did we add an ad network? Cause we are not making more money!!!! People dont buy stuff anymore. I was just sitting around the other day trying to comprehend why iOS devs make SOOO much more money. Because the iOS users are willing to pay for apps and will not pirate them. Android allows users to buy apps, copy them, refund them. Plus, Android users are somewhat cheap when it comes to a 0.99 donation...sorry. That is my theory on why Android has so many ad problems. If you want to hear more or complain/argue, email me. This is not the place.

Anyways, the pro version is a "key". It cant delete the push ads (which are not push notifications. Just shortcuts which you can opt out of). We use StartApp which is very safe and does no harm. Dont let people fool you.

If you have another requests or wants, post them up! :)
[Android Apps and Games] moneymike55:
Please be patient guys, this is still in beta stages but has been our primary focus all year and the remaining bugs will be fixed as soon as we figure them out. The 3rd party notifications that are compatible with OSB shouldn't be delayed at all anymore and we are working on improving running app detection. As for the bar staying permanently on top, we have reduced RAM usage as much as possible and added activites that restart the bar almost instantly if it ever FCs but there are still times when the stock bar will show after OSB has been running for a few hours/days. While this doesn't occur nearly as often as other status bar apps, it is still annoying having to open the app whenever it does randomly switch off. We will continue to improve stability but it has a lot to do with android being able to keep OSB in memory (at all times) so if nothing else maybe we can add a widget or notification tile to restart OSB.

We actually haven't experienced any FCs in the last 2 builds except for when mDroidd ran it with a custom density. Have you adjusted your screen density at all or do you know if your cm7 ROM is using a custom one instead of standard mdpi/hdpi/xhdpi?

The ads from startapp were a minor last-minute addition in the update process. The main app and themes contained a few hundred changes that took 3 months of coordinated development and testing while the ads were integrated in 30 mins a few nights before updating. Just because your ad detector says startapp is using apperhand doesn't make it a bad thing, apperhand used to be considered aggressive but now has some of the best security policies in the industry and is setting the standard for other ad networks in Lookout's user privacy guidelines.

Like I said this app is still in beta and the ads were added last minute but it isn't actually an ad. It is just an EULA asking if you would like to receive one-time links to their search engine, and if you decline the EULA should only appear the first 2 times you open the app. It shouldn't be displaying for ppl with the pro key installed, but this has to do their SDK and can hopefully be worked out with a blacklist service. The popup asking if you would like to purchase the pro version shouldn't be appearing for users that already have it installed either (in case you noticed that bug), but that is an easy fix and should be resolved in the next update. But as for extra features, the system warnings and animated background (which just needs the proper images to work) are still pro-only features and the battery bar is only for pro users, but several more pro features will be added over time after the last few bugs are fixed and main features added.
[Android Apps and Games] mDroidd:
Guys, look at it this way:

This is (at least I think it is) their real time job. So it should give them money

Without them, apps like these WOULDN'T EXIST

Donating // Buying PRO versions will have earn money

That causes them to move on with this apps

so YOU don't have to make one yourself or deal with buggy apps.
[Android Apps and Games] phapsubongtoi:
force close on my Motorola Flipside running CM7
[Android Apps and Games] moneymike55:
We're gonna need a few more details starting with this:

What were you doing when it FC'd (or can you not open the app)?

Are you running a custom screen density?

Do you have the pro version or any themes installed?

A logcat would also be helpful if you can send me one.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] mDroidd:
@Devs: You really got to fix this lol

Maybe you could make it disappear when touched on JB?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.2 JB
[Android Apps and Games] moneymike55:
This is at the top of our wish list for OSB as well but unfortunately it is a lot more complicated than just making it disappear when pressed. Not that it isn't a great idea (and was actually the first resolution we discussed lol), but android introduced a new security layer in 4.0 that prevents clickable overlays. This was integrated to fight a scam called tapjacking, but also makes things like pressing the statbar technically impossible. That doesn't mean it can't be hacked though and we are currently tested a method that looks promising, but due to the scope of the pulldown addition it won't be released until the remaining bugs are fixed and main features added :)
[Android Apps and Games] dragontology:
Requires badware installation.
[Android Apps and Games] moneymike55:
It doesn't require the installation of anything and you don't even have to accept the ads so I'm really not sure what you're complaining about. The popup just asks if you want to use Startapp's search tools or not, and like I just said on the last page, if you don't feel like supporting development and decline it will only show the first two times you open the settings menu. Is pressing a decline button twice really that big of an inconvenience? I don't see anybody complaining about xda putting ads in the 1st 2nd and last post of every single page plus one in the header and footer, not to mention the interstitials every few pages that are almost impossible to clear from a phone browser.

Lets put it this way: Without startapp we wouldnt be able to afford spending as much time developing as we do, and believe me just because we don't post everything to xda doesn't mean we aren't working 60+ hours a week on things that haven't even been announced yet. This is exactly the reason we stopped posting our progress here, and while luckily most ppl don't share your sense of entitlement, this will be the last public response about our ad preferences unless we want your opinion. All of the required permissions are fully documented on our partner company's sites as well as our own, so if anyone has a valid concern you can send me a pm or email and I would be happy to clarify things for you.
[Android Apps and Games] Quinny899:
Little preview of my latest theme:
[Android Apps and Games] Quinny899:
Uploaded to play store, waiting on it to appear

---------- Post added at 11:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:47 PM ----------

AANND, it's up

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quinny898.omegatheme.sense4
[Android Apps and Games] dragontology:
You put badware in your app, and you justify it here, but I think you knew what you were doing when you didn't declare the badware up front. You are what's wrong with Android and why people pirate, to avoid stupid **** like this. Hitting decline would not have been too hard but you never said that, your app just said it would need to install badware so I promptly removed it.

You call me entitled but you are as well. I am proud to be entitled to keep badware off a device I paid $150 for and will pay probably close to $2000 for over the life of the contract, FYVM.
[Android Apps and Games] blacmack:
Battery

I just downloaded this last night, and had a noticeable battery drain today. Is this still a bug?
[Android Apps and Games] A Dev@Calsto:
Actually, its not the developers who are wrong with Android, its the cheap users. People dont want to pay for anything. Its sad. It is way to simple to share apk files and pirated apps. Why would you buy an app when you can take 2 more minutes and get it online for free. That is the problem. Why do developers put ads into apps? Because no one is buying them anymore! Its simple. If people are willing to buy apps for a cheap price of $0.99 rather than pirate, then apps would not contain ads. Why do iPhone apps not have ads? The iOS users actually pay for apps. Its pretty simple, but most people dont understand it because they are developers. Ask any developer why they put ads into their apps. Why did Angry Birds add ads to their games? Why did GO put the same ad network we use in their apps? Just something to think about. THis is why apps are slowly dieing and the markets are getting worse and worse.

That brings me to another subject that i dont want to get into since its so off topic, but it has been discussed before. The Google Playstore currently has a 15 minute refund period. It is better than the 24 hours that users had to refund a few years ago, but a lot can happen in 15 minutes. Apps can be purchased, copied, then refunded well within the 15 minute refund period...which brings us back to the topic of Android users being cheap. I would be so happy if the Playstore adopted the no refund policy unless the developer issued the refund, but Apple would find a way to sue for that probably lol. But then again, who would buy the apps when they can still be pirated in a few minutes. Which once again, brings us back to the start of "why developers use ad networks".

Anyway, back on topic. The recent security upgrade has made it very difficult to know when the notification try is pulled down. It may seem simple to make the StatusBa just "disappear" when the try is opened, but you cant. There is no real way of knowing when this is happening. The app needs some type of alert or notification that the try is opened...but google offers no support for that. If anyone has any info or new to share, go for it :)
[Android Apps and Games] mDroidd:
It's actually pretty funny that you're trying to sell a paid app while the theme can be made completely with my tool - for free.

;)

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.2 JB
[Android Apps and Games] dragontology:
False. Ads and badware aren't in Android apps because of what people pay, or what they don't pay, they're in Android apps because Google allows it (and profits off some of it).

iOS users do pay more, but they're used to paying more for less. Apple's whole MO is to take last year's hardware and sell it for next year's prices as "tried and true" and "It Just Works". Apple users want this, they're used to opening their wallets at every turn. That plus iOS's market share, plus a lack of ads in iOS means more apps are paid and more paid apps are paid for.

The 15-minute window isn't a problem if your app has DRM. If it does, pirating it simply will not work. I've tried. Well, maybe not too seriously, but it's enough to deter casual users. I buy my apps now. I'm 100% honest with my phone's apps, but when I first started with Android, I tried the black market apps. I can tell you that Tasker and PowerAmp will not work if you back them up and refund, and restore them. SoundHound Infinity won't, either (I kicked Amazon Appstore to the curb. A bunch of apps stopped working. PicSay Pro was another. And My Writing Spot.) Basic DRM, it checks for the store that was used to buy it. Now, maybe that can be circumvented, but the average user doesn't know how, and that information isn't readily available. A few people can do it, but that isn't really hurting developers.

But the problem is, you're defending the badware here in the forum, and you've got a few user accounts working toward this purpose, but you're not declaring it either in the OP, or on Google Play. That tells me you know it's wrong. So either own up to it and declare it, or go on being dishonest and misleading/cheating people. Up to you. Now, part of my conscience is saying maybe I'm being too hard on you guys. But no, this problem of apps wanting to install badware? Hell no. We need to nip that in the bud. Ads are one thing, whole other apps that change search settings and offer popup notifications? Nope. Especially if it's so bad that you won't openly declare you're using it.
[Android Apps and Games] Kitschki:
You gotta exercise your commas, bro. Naaaaaahhhh, joking, well said
[Android Apps and Games] Quinny899:
That's the same for almost every paid theme app on the play store. :rolleyes:
[Android Apps and Games] mDroidd:
Still funny :p

Are you a real themer? I mean do you make the images yourself?

How much money did you make, if I may ask?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.2 JB
[Android Apps and Games] Quinny899:
On the other one, £81 so far. I made some of them, and obviously I had to source the rest from Sense otherwise it wouldn't be a sense theme would it? I do some theming, mostly ROM related, like the jb fixer implementation into a theme chooser theme.
[Android Apps and Games] Quinny899:
It's gone up since I last checked

Look at the number of cancelled, how many do you think are pirates? Last I checked there were more active installs than completed purchases.
[Android Apps and Games] A Dev@Calsto:
Um, what are you talking about? You dont know anything about ads and why they are used now.... are you a developer? Do you have a real experience with making money by selling apps? Didn't think so. Before i started making apps, i hated ads! They were so annoying. I didn't use them when i started getting into developing either. But then i changed because i got a real experience of why ads are used now. You really dont understand until you experience the need for ads or what they are really used for. This is the big gap between the users and developers. Anyways, i want to be done talking about this non sense. Stay on topic. Please leave or post something useful. Here is something to think about. If all ad networks are bad, why are they supported by Google (Admob) and why does XDA support these networks??? Something to think about like i said. Proof of AirPush being advertised and supported on XDA...

Typical XDA user would say OMG! I hate ads. Especially AirPush ads.

Well, XDA is technically introducing AirPush to all devs...and about 4,738,077 registered users.

Back on topic. The Omega Theme Studio is looking awesome and works well! Expect more themes to come soon :D
[Android Apps and Games] dragontology:
Declare the badware in the OP and on Google Play, or you concede that I'm right that the badware is wrong. Either you're proud of it and don't mind declaring it up front or you agree it's wrong which is why you don't declare it. It's one or the other.
[Android Apps and Games] famewolf:
Nagware

This app should have a flag indicating it's nagware.....every time I went into setting I had to click 4 or 5 times on popups encouraging me to upgrade to pro and THEN came the popup wanting to hijack search. Uninstalled. I don't need a themed notification bar that bad.
[Android Apps and Games] A Dev@Calsto:
Okay...cool? Nice lie as i have tested this many times and it only asks once. But whatever.

Your account on XDA should be flagged as an Off Topic Nagger who disturbs developer threads.
[Android Apps and Games] KeylanHalfdan:
Hey, I have been a fan of this since the beginning. I even submitted some bugs when it was first released.

Just tried the new version, and when it is first loaded I got the accept decline thing, which I declined, and I had to click on the "no thanks" upgrade message 3 times to get into the app for settings. Same thing happened the second time I loaded the app. The third time I loaded it there was no accept decline from the ad thing, but I did have to hit no thanks twice to get the upgrade to pro to go away.

It didn't happen 5 times like the other person said, but I did have to hit the button multiple times, as the message box flickered each time and did not go away, so there is some merit to that comment, albeit slightly exaggerated.

I will try the app out again now that it has had some time to get updates and see how it works for my phone.

Thanks a bunch for the app :)

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Nexus running Bugless Beast 4.1.2 via Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2 with customized colors
[Android Apps and Games] famewolf:
Yeah...I've been on xda since 2006..released windows mobile rom's etc and I just chose out of the blue to lie about my experience with this app. I tried it...I described what happened on my htc hd2 running the rom described in my signature and I uninstalled it. EVERY time I went into settings the popup came up multiple times and the search bar popup showed once....when I went into the settings a 2nd time identical behavior with the pro popup and search bar popup..if it wasn't expected/planned behavior then it's something that needs to be fixed because it's not saving the settings and it IS showing up multiple times as another person also confirmed.

It also gave no option to hide the usb debugging icon that I could find.
[Android Apps and Games] Quinny899:
It actually does ask more than once sometimes, no idea why
[Android Apps and Games] mDroidd:
Well ok then, sorry for my previous actions lol.

You're right.

And maybe they cancelled because they found there was a free version too?

But strange indeed...

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.2 JB
[Android Apps and Games] moneymike55:
He's right, I just duplicated the issue for the first time after a fresh install. Like Keylan said it wasnt quite 5 times, but there were 3 popups stacked on top of eachother so its pretty much the same thing. Believe me guys this wasn't some scheme to get more people to purchase, actually the popup was originally programmed to only show on odd numbered days of the month instead of every time the app is opened. Im not sure what affected it in the last build yet but this bug will definitely be looked into and hopefully fixed by the next release.

Dude... are u seriously still trying to argue about this? Check the description of every single one of our other apps on the market. See the disclaimer? The only reason Omega's description doesn't have it yet is because we added the sdk last minute and have been super busy since releasing the updates. Not that it matters because the new EULA popup does the exact opposite of what you're complaining about by not only notifying every user upfront that was too lazy to read the description, but even asks for your freaking permission!! Can you think of ANY other apps or ad networks that ask if you want to see their ads? No?? Then stfu and find something more productive to do with your time than coming here jumping to conclusions and trying to start some conspiracy that we're hiding things from our users when you obviously have no idea what you're even talking about.
[Android Apps and Games] dragontology:
Not arguing. Just pointing out that what you're doing is wrong and that by being deceptive about it you know it's wrong. And I love how you have sock puppet accounts thanking your posts for the ads. Does that actually help you somehow? It's just so obvious to any human person what you're doing. But keep calling me out. I find your bizarre sense of entitlement funny.
[Android Apps and Games] moneymike55:
There's nothing wrong or deceptive about notifying users immediately after install saying exactly what the ads do and asking for permission display them. I don't know how else to say this because you obviously dont get it, but we're not taking startapp out and you're not gonna change our mind about it. End of story. If you don't agree you don't even have to use them so you are literally complaining about having to press a decline button the first two times u open the settings. And you want to say that I have a bizarre sense of entitlement? Over what??? The freedom to put whatever ads we want in an app we've spent thousands of hours developing, just to publish most of the features for free so ppl without rooted phones can still customize them? We could have made the themes a paid feature like super statusbar, or maybe we could make it a 14 day trial like statusbar+... We didn't even include ads for the first 100k installs and its not like they're push ads, they're not even mandatory (yet) so I suggest u stop complaining already.

Oh and your puppet account conspiracy is hilarious, thanks for the laugh. Do you really think im thanking myself from different accounts? I've been working with mDroidd every night for months on the theme studio and aDev@Calsto is my partner but if you dont already know who he is then Im not explaining it. Go back to your cave now and stop cluttering the thread, we don't want you to use our app and dont care what you think about it anymore if you can't even take a second to think about how much time goes into it (or how unreasonable you're being). Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Gnaver:
For first I'm not criticizing this app or the developer. I'm finding very funny how every thread of developed app from this developer turns to flaming and trolling. Before with omega launcher etc and now this. I know its not easy to develop something but this everytime something happened to developers apps. From functions to copyright etc...I bought two apps from this team and after little period of time they stopped updating even if it was buggy.
[Android Apps and Games] mausanna:
on play market i read some negative comments about some bugs....:(

can someone confirm this?
[Android Apps and Games] mDroidd:
The only bugs I encounter are with a custom DPI.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.2 JB
[Android Apps and Games] A Dev@Calsto:
The popup dialog is a simple fix. It was being called twice so it was duplicating the popup dialog. Simple fix and update tonight.

But seriously, this ad crap needs to stop. We are not removing them. We do tell you its there and that is why the popup dialog for the ads exist. If you dont like it, simply reject.