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[Nexus 7 Original Development] Metallice:
No. Other kernels don't up any voltages. At least not on mine.

Also you cannot change the voltage for the 100MHz slot. You keep saying this but it is not currently possible. Franco's voltage table is completely wrong. The voltage table only applies to the G cores which only go down to 400mhz on this kernel.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
@UBER: Stock Google? No idea... It would be whatever Franco had before r25 I think. You can just uncheck set governor on boot and reboot to see the defaults. Currently 60k/65/45k/15k.

@Metallice: Ah, I didn't realize the interface was misleading/broken. Maybe something else franco can improve upon? I wonder why iiro thought he changed the voltage and it helped? Either way at least min 200MHz is a confirmed workaround..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
No I meant stock Franco. Thanks.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 7 Original Development] xI mEzMeRiZe Ix:
Getting a Nexus 7 soon. I've been hearing a lot of complaints about the color saturation and was wondering if this kernel has Color Control like the Galaxy Nexus kernel does?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
No

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DJLamontagneIII:
No color control yet for the N7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Sultanxda:
Init.d does not work for me on r25
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
Yup. I don't think franco has included init.d support in his ramdisk like he did for the GN since I can't seem to get it working here either with stock ROM. I'm hoping he'll throw this in for a future build since having rom-independent init.d support is actually pretty awesome.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] opz187:
The app autokiller memory optimizer doesnt work either
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DJLamontagneIII:
Init.d support can come in handy at times
[Nexus 7 Original Development] hospital349:
Hey folks.

Just a quick query (with hope that someone might know the answer to it)...

I don't know if it's kernel related, ROM related, or app related... but Youtube is giving me the notice: 'There was a problem while playing'. Touch to retry. This only happens when I try streaming in High Quality. High Quality on Youtube via Chrome doesn't work either (though it just gives a blank screen on the browser version).

Standard streaming works fine, HQ doesn't work at all.

I have done a factory reset, tried 2 Roms and 3 Kernels... with no such luck on any of them.

The issues began a few days ago, before that I didn't have issues at all and Youtube hasn't been updated on Market for a while now.

If anyone has experienced this or read about this anywhere, please please please throw some insight my way, as I love streaming in HQ.

Sorry to bombard the thread with this query, I just wasn't sure if it had anything at all to do with ROM or Kernel development (though doubtful, I know.)

Many thanks for your efforts! :good:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] adefxda:
Are you sure the problem isn't from your internet connection?

I'm fine with #25 kernel @paranoidandroid 2.52

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[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
I'm pretty sure I had a sod since my device was unresponsive. It's a bit weird the battery was at 100% when I got it back on.

r25 with 100 MHz min and 850 mV (otherwise stock). :(

So: 100 MHz is buggy even with raised voltage.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/34527351/last_kmsg.zip
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
Someone was saying a page back that Franco's UV interface is broken so that we can't set voltages correctly for anything under 400MHz, so that might explain it. Oh well, thanks for trying, you've definitely helped narrow things down, and we've confirmed min 200MHz as a workaround for now.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] krazeecracker:
Not sure if lack of codecs or the kernel its self. But when using team viewer to watch a movie on my nexus the color is drained and washed out. As well as stutters and lags. Audio is fine though?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zimphishmonger:
Flashable Franco R23 and R25 kernel

Thought I'd post these for the people who like to flash the kernel with a ROM and Gapps, instead of using the franco app to download and install. That being said, I still highly recommend you purchase francos app. :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zimphishmonger:
Color being drained out is most likely the Tegra SmartDimmer technology, whcih helps battery but does exactly what you're describing. Disbale it in the franco settings app, download tricker mod and disable it, or use the below script in terminal\gscript\script manager

echo "0" > /sys/devices/tegradc.0/smartdimmer/enable

Enjoy!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TylerDurden1999:
Isnt it enough if you disable the tegra dimmer from the franco kernel app?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
Well yeah? The instructions above are how to do it manually.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bobbinthreadbare:
Thanks, I was going back to 23 anyways until the 400mhz thing is sorted. Having a flashable zip is preferable to me over using an app or using a computer. :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] M3drvr:
It's true. It's how mine is too.

After running r25 for a week or so now all is fantastic on PA. Fantastic battery life. I manage around 6 hours movie watching if movies on device itself. Or about 4 hours screen time when streaming from Google drive. No sod at all while undervolted at - 150 across the board. At stock clock speeds though. No OC needed Imo. Keep up great work Franco!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] tyrellcorpnexus:
Just got a handmedown Nexus 7 from someone who moved onto the mini, so happy :D

flashed it to AOKP milestone 1 and LOVE it, especially with deep ROM setting tweaks built into settings.

Is this a good combo with Franco kernel?

Can I just download the franco kernel zip, and flash it in CWM and reboot?

Or is that not a good idea? Thanks.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] nogutznglory:
So happy so far with this rom.

The battery life is awesome, had it going for more than a day on battery with normal use.

Great performance too!

I got a 4,622 on Quadrant compared to the 3,5++ I got on stock.

Definitely a great kernel! :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
This isn't a ROM!? :p

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bbc0:
You cant just flash this. Check the fastboot instructions on the first page.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] uberbania:
Franco, what's the possibility you can implement or sort out Adobe flash in this kernel? Love this kernel, great battery life, but I get the tv static on flash content. Thanks for a smooth efficient kernel!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] nuwan32:
Actually you can, just put the boot.img of this kernel in any flashable zip and you should be fine. Someone posted the zip a couple posts back so just check that. Probably last page

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It's the browser fault for not supporting flash, don't think there's anything Franco could do some it's not kernel related
[Nexus 7 Original Development] uberbania:
It's definitely kernel related. Clemsyn battery saver allows flash to work, so I was curious what's in his modification of the stock kernel that lets flash animations show up without static. I know support has ceased for android 4.0.x, but I just wanted to make an inquiry here because I think Franco has a solid kernel and I want to be able to use this kernel as my daily.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] toidimaet:
I am not sure what you are trying to say, however chrome browser does not work with flash on JB.

I use android browser and boat browser, both of which work with flash but both have menu corruption issues.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
Guys at some point it's going to be a decision between innovative fixes for the kernel and outdated unsupported flash. I know which I'd prefer in the long run. That might even be that case right now.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ralphx10:
Yes, and it might not be, so what's your point?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
I think I was pretty clear: At some point, for the betterment of the kernel and Android, flash will have to be left behind. Today might not be that day, but prepare yourselves, and try not to ***** too much when it does come.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ralphx10:
Oh, then it was actually worse than I thought. Why on earth kernel development of all places should be affected by a legacy app running in user space is beyond me. But I'm sure you'll entertain us with your technical insights on this.

And nobody's *****ing, people are simply reporting a bug. The only people *****ing are those that for reasons that are beyond me can't seem to live with others reporting a bug.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
The bug was reported 20 pages ago, so I agree the only people *****ing are those that for reasons that are beyond me can't seem to live with others reporting a bug. Franco knows. Harping on with no valuable information to help him find the issue is tantamount to *****ing.

Oh, and to answer your condescending query, sure it's a userspace app, but it uses hardware acceleration, so considering the kernel controls the GPU, please explain to me how they're unrelated.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Ronaldo Forenucci:
It'd be nice if it could be fixed, but since it primarily appears on YouTube (via browser) in my usage scenarios, it is livable with the YouTube App onboard. It is 75/25 fine/problematic on random sites with a Flash embed (why some are ok, I have no idea) for *my* usage. YMMV.

RF
[Nexus 7 Original Development] opz187:
Osmosis how can you call him condensing? Who the hell are you dude? Flash should be a very easy fix.. Seeing as it runs fine on every other kernel.. Including stock 4.1.2, where it's "unsupported". So obviously if flash runs fine on the stock kernel from aosp, and that's the basis and foundation for the developer to build from.. Then obviously something was funked up along the way that has affected flash. Sorry I had to spell that out for him everyone, but its really not TOO MUCH to ask that it be fixed. OK buddy?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] icepuente:
Who the hell is he? He is one of the people involved with keeping this kernel in constant development.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
You'll notice I started by saying some day we may need to part with Flash, I also said that day may not be today. I also made a call for patience since repeating it's broken over and over does not make it fix itself nor help Franco figure it out. His sarcastic "technical insights" comment was condescending, and you are just outright rude. Let's keep the attitude to a minimum, please, and end this discussion since it also does not help Franco in any way.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] opz187:
Coming from the guy that just said people were "*****ing" for troubleshooting about flash.

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Repeating that its broken "over & over again" may not be a solution.. But it definitely helps by letting him know its a widespread issue
[Nexus 7 Original Development] formicae:
Maybe you should fix it, then.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] icepuente:
Its no wonder Franco doesn't put as much focus on this thread as he does with the Galaxy nexus thread. Following the other thread is awfully interesting with development information and advancement rather than the repeating of the same bug which he certainly knows about by now.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
I think we can all agree that if he didn't know how widespread it was before, he certainly does now.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] matique:
I guess the GNex thread is over a year old, people have matured and have a more general consensus there. It's an awesome thread. I hope the N7 thread will evolve and mature like the GNex thread.

Stop arguing guys. If Franco has a solution for the flash issue, he will fix it. If not, we still have one bloody awesome kernel. Be thankful. He develops it for free and depend on the sale of his app and donations for revenue. The least you could do is be constructive and mature in his thread... Not argue.. Just my point of view.

Nexus 7 | Paranoid Android | Trinity Kernel

GNex | Paranoid Android | Franco Kernel

HTC Sensation | Bruce's CMX | Bruce's Kernel.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] opz187:
Well since franco openly declares the galaxy nexus kernel as his "his baby", it really shouldn't come as a shock that it receives more attention & development from him than the n7 does. With that being said.. Francos kernel is still one of the best available on the n7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] icepuente:
To get this thread back on topic, I'm picking up my nexus 7 this Friday! Been following this and the thread for the galaxy nexus and I'm excited because of all the great feedback I've been reading. I tried the interactive governor tunings on my s3 and they have been running fantastic! Its amazing seeing the hard work put forth from franco, yellowdie, and osmosis. :D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] yellowdie:
Wow. This N7 thread sure is a blast. :rolleyes:

@opz, how do you come out and ask "who the hell are you?" Osm0sis is one of Franco's main testers and works directly with Boss Man on tweaking and improving the kernel that you love and use. You (and everyone else here) owe Os a huge "Thank You" for all of his hard work and "technical insights" (as it was very condescendingly put). A ton of testing, tweaking, and enhancing has been poured into what you use every day (in addition to Franco's countless hours). All of the research and awesomeness that we create in the Gnex thread is added to the N7 kernel as well. So there is a lot of work going on that doesn't show up in this thread.

Please be respectful (no matter who you're talking to). Also, if a bug has been reported, there's no point in mass complaining. A simple search would have turned up that it was reported and talked about already, and would have saved a lot of unnecessary posts here. Thanks guys! :highfive:

And remember, Franco dedicates his time and work to make your devices fly like crazy! So don't forget to be appreciative for all of the effort that you benefit from. :):D:laugh::good:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] nogutznglory:
A big thumbs up to those who make this awesome kernel possible. :good::victory:

And for peace in the world!! :highfive::highfive::highfive:

:D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] opz187:
Doesn't give anyone the right, including him, to refer to other posters in such a demeaning manner. Its the principle dude. I've confessed my love for francos kernel.. Everyone should be treated with the same amount of respect. When you read other threads you see the same exact situations occurring, albeit different issues. SOD's, audio issues, etc.. Mentioned over & over again. So what makes those circumstances different from this one? People are reporting issues, that's one of the purposes of these threads. But anyway I'm dead'n it, its over
[Nexus 7 Original Development] yellowdie:
Hey, I'm totally cool with bringing up issues and things like that. But from a third-party outside person, ralphx10's posts came off as really arrogant and demeaning. Again, I am on the outside looking in and wasn't a part of the actual discussion, I just saw what appears to be attacked going on and decided to weigh in. Osm0sis' point was Flash is outdated. The fact that Adobe/Google dropped it, and the users picked it up and ran with it, means it's going bye bye sooner or later. With sites like YouTube moving to HTML5 and all the fancy jazz. So whether or not there's something Boss Man can do to relieve the pain, I don't know for sure. I just didn't like people attacking Os and support here. But we're cool here. :) I'm not arguing, I'm just weighing in what I saw from my view of it all. :cowboy:

:):D:laugh::good:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
I hope Franco gets a moderator to come scrub all the bull**** out of his thread. If you look at my posts I am always helping people and encouraging them to try and come up with useful information for their issues, like a few pages back where iiro and I narrowed down 100MHz as the faulty freq causing SODs, and confirmed setting min 200MHz as a viable workaround for the time being. I'm all for reporting issues but when we're on 35 pages or so with Flash being mentioned on pretty much every page, nobody contributing any new info to help troubleshoot, and Franco has himself promised to look into it, people need to cool it.

My original post was not inflammatory in the least, and yet someone felt the need to escalate; my responses were basically a plea for reason in this thread, but he and you continue to escalate needlessly. Let's agree to disagree or whatever makes you feel better, but yes, let's drop this finally.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] opz187:
Agreed. To disagree. Haha jk. On a serious note tho.. I would like to give a thanks to you osmosis for contributing on francos kernel. No hard feelings
[Nexus 7 Original Development] clusterchuck:
Everything runs pretty great on this kernel, except that my battery life seems to have been almost cut in half now, from around 9-10 hours to 5-6 hours. Any reason for this?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] yellowdie:
I read that and was like "WHAT?!?!?!" Then I remembered that this is the N7 thread not Gnex. Lol
[Nexus 7 Original Development] opz187:
Where you coming from.. Stock?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] clusterchuck:
I was running motleys last kernel on the glazed jelly bean rom. Soon i switched to r23 of francos cause of the update 4.1.2 and got around the same battery life (about 9 hours). Ever since I updated to r25, the battery seems to drain much faster.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] uberbania:
From my limited personal experience, and more so from what I've read across this and other kernel threads, the kernel takes time to settle before battery performance is consistent.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Krunk_Kracker:
I've been running this kernel for about a week and haven't had any issues until this morning.

I missed last weeks " The Walking Dead" so I bought it on the play store. Watching it I notice freezing about every ten seconds. I dirty flashed my room to get back to the stock kernel and it goes away. I tried to get a logcat but nothing was showing up.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] nuwan32:
try increasing your min clock since it may be too low and using stock voltages if you under clocked

Btw that episode was amazing!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Krunk_Kracker:
Bumped it to 200mhz min and upped the voltages for 100 and 200mhz...still the same
[Nexus 7 Original Development] irminsul:
No, for the Nexus 7 its not implemented.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] kabauterman:
just from my point of view I think the idle drain raised a bit from 23 to 25..

did you gus spotted the same on your N7?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] alcaprone:
does it work on simple stock rooted rom?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] !crazy:
Yes.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ehiggins:
Not the case at all for me. I've been traveling and haven't had much opportunity to use it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] eugenechiuu:
Wow nice one.. are you sure its not ur battery indicator broken? Lol
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Marreboy:
Great work on the update of your app Franco. I like it a lot.

Only thing I found that is a bit weird is the device monitor page on the Nexus 7. It only shows cpu frequency and active cores. All other values are just showing as n/a

Running r25

Tapatalked from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
Yup. Support for those indicators hasn't been added to the N7 kernel (yet). You'll notice companion core freq, GPU freq and CPUquiet all stick on boot now though, and the option now exists to set voltages on boot! Lots of other minor improvements in 8.0 and lots more planned for 8.1-8.2. :D :good:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Krunk_Kracker:
Will the new app have the pre-defined power modes implemented again?

Also, what is "Screen off max frequency"?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] airmaxx23:
I'm pretty sure it's just the maximum frequency that the CPU will use when the screen is off.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] icytrey:
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but what exactly am I doing when I check the smart dimmer box? Am I enabling or disabling the dimmer?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Krunk_Kracker:
That's what I was thinking as well, so I set it to 200.

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Disabling it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
Wrong. When its checked its enabled. Unchecked its disabled.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Krunk_Kracker:
It says enabled by default and its unchecked. I'd think checking it would disable it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ÜBER™:
No... when you first flash and install the app its checked enabled by default. If your coming from a previous update and had it disabled (unchecked) then it remains unless you fix permissions. Trust me I don't think he's changed that and its always been checked enabled... unchecked disabled.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Krunk_Kracker:
Odd...I never messed with it in the previous build because I used the Tegra app to do that.

Maybe the Tegra app caused it to toggle in the franco app?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
Yup, that's what it is on the GN, but that's actually a mistake having it show up for the N7; setting it won't do anything. For the N7 the Powermodes should probably have "Screen off max" replaced with "Companion Core freq" unless franco implements a legit screen off max. Good catch. :good:

Pre-defined power modes are currently on the list for 8.1-8.2, of course no real ETAs or version numbering are guaranteed since those can be a bit of a moving target. ;)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] FreakyFreakGA:
Okay, question I understand franco does not like to allow OC'ing on his ROM's I am use to OC'ing to at least 1.6 with ondemand or something, but my question is, I don't game alot, nor multitask a huge bunch, and I like the customizable aspect of francos kernel with his tool, so I want to stick with franco for awhile, but I wanted to know, does OC'ing honestly have a profound effect on anything gaming/performance wise besides quick battery drain?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] driguez:
Franco, any chance you could implement having the choice to flash previous kernels using your app? I prefer r23 and would like to flash it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] anilpalepu:
+1 ...

that would be so great.. r23 was perfect for me too.. r25 freezes my nexus 7 .. wish I can revert back.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Bigzinewicz:
Having issues with voice commands using Google Now on latest kernel r25. When flash back to stock it works fine. Running stock 4.1.2. Any suggestions?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Ted C.:
r23 for flashing....

See page 168, post #1674 for your request. ;)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
Franco's said that he doesn't want to do that, but it's extremely easy to keep previous versions loaded on your sdcard in /sdcard/kernel_backups/ where you can flash to them instantly using Franco's app whenever you want. Easier than flashable zips in my opinion.

Downloads for all previous versions are here:

http://minooch.com/franciscofranco/Nexus7/
[Nexus 7 Original Development] SquireSCA:
Easiest way to clock this kernel to 1.5Ghz? I see that in the Max Frequency tab, it only goes to 1.3Ghz...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
Not possible yet.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ncguy68:
I always use the app to save a backup of the old versions before I update to a newer version. Makes it easy to switch between versions.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] anilpalepu:
Thanks a zillion.. you jus made me so happy today..never seen that link before.. awesome .. thanks again !!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] osm0sis:
Hahahah :laugh: happy to be of help. It's also in the OP? ;)