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[LG Optimus 4X HD] psolord:
I postponed my purchase of an X4 as well, the reason being no available root access.

It's a great phone. I went to a local shop for some test drive. Then got back home for some more research before ordering.

I was completely astonished to find out that no root was available.

I am not a user that will start throwing one custom rom after another. I just want root access for some specific tasks, Titanium, Screenshots, Directory bind.

Until a root method becomes available, my purchase will be postponed and maybe I will just look for another phone altogether.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] flickyamom:
There is root by the way, as well as custom recovery.

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[LG Optimus 4X HD] psolord:
Then I missed some very valuable info.

Can you share it please? I'd be grateful.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
if you follow up on news in this o4x section, you should find "root" in the development section as pinned to the top.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] psolord:
I spent half the day yesterday trying to find an alternative to the 4X, while I should have searched this forum better I guess.

Thanks a lot. Appreciated.:good:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dfreake:
i hope that lg update our 4x to 4.1 or 4.2 when the lg nexus comes out ;)......if !!!!... they didnt screw it up:mad::laugh:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
Hope that 4.2 will be like a update from 4.1 to 4.1.1, maybe we'll get 4.2 then.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] iceddeath:
of course i really want my lovely O4XHD to get the JellyBean updates because O4XHD is more than capable of running it! :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
the nexus is a different chipset? so probably not in any way compatible, and they need developers assigned to upgrade o4x, and currently that seems highly unlikely. the o4x seems to be a total failure in Denmark, and its not long before its gone from the shelf here. or sold for pennies due to storages needing to be emptied. o4x is a dead ringer, nothing good left for it.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] muellersmattes:
I think it's a failure nearly everywhere. Hardly any marketing, plus the bad reputation LG already has with users who'd buy a high-end device, it's no wonder it doesn't sell. After all it's still a good phone, and I think they could have had it different with proper user-orientation. This way users are already crying because LG will produce the next Nexus.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
i believe the o4x was their proof of concept bringing almost impossible root/kernel model on the market, so its good for pro. business use.

but root got achieved. so maybe o4x was nothing but a play for google to get accepted to bring out their next standard in mobiles.

although LG had a reputation like a farmer selling dead cows.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Phillmitchell:
We need to set up a petition and give LG as much bad publicity as possible .The price drop of the 4x suggests LG have abandoned this phone and do not care about updating it
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
Actually the price drop suggests the arrival of their new flagship device. It doesnt by any mean hint that they wont and will never provide software updates to their former flagship phone. Lets just put our hopes and trusts in LG...if it doesnt happen, then thats too bad. We just have to keep an optimistic mindset with this situation.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
I think we'll know a lot after LG's conference in 23-24 oct.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
+1. Even though, the conference is mainly centered at the Optimus G...hopefully they'll be able to squeeze some info regarding JB updates to their phones. Atleast, their high end phones.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ozeer:
Hi guys, please don't be frustrated with O4X device. I have got one and really wonderful device. I feel that the o4x will update to JB because it has the capable to run it smoothly. keep in mind that the device is competing samsung galaxy S III. please Enjoy and feel relaxation ( Life is Good ) >>> :)

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[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
Well, i was reading that there're going to be 2 conferences, 1 in Korea and one in London (24oct). Besides financial sh*t, i think they'll say sth about 4X (and G too, that's right). We see that LG wants to fight with Samsung etc, so they MUST update their older devices to ICS and highends to JB or KLP(?) :silly:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] flickyamom:
NO

Guys I don't think that this phone is going to receive any further support from LG. I don't even think that we will get 4.0.4, let alone 4.1 or 4.2. Even if we get 4.0.4, it's practically impossible for us to receive jellybean like how it is for other models to even receive ICS. This is definitely going to be my last LG phone if they don't improve in this phase. Just want to tell you guys to keep your hopes down or you'll just be disappointed again.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
o4x is Losing Greatly to others on xda

this sections is dead, most devs skipped this device due to the bad reputation LG has. And i personally got my first and last LG mobile. My Note2 is far superior, it has the quadcore option and i got 1.8Ghz to play with and i can chose to install custom roms, with the small exception my mobile is marked modified (which i accept).

Losing Growth is just not good enough, when you want be a improvement on GoldStar as past shopping mall brand, with less to no quality acknowledgement from anyone but shopping mall ads.

They should focus on making one product line better, and forget their everlasting failures in gaining marketshare on the mobile market. they fail and their Line is no Good for making money.

This section will probably soon see its continued existence in the "legacy & low activity devices" section and that is even before the possible unlocked loader is released which we hoped for in 2014.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dfreake:
i want to trade my 4x for the nexus4 or the optimus G if the G have unlocked bootloader....if the 4x have the unlocked boot before 2013 i change my mind

nyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyan
[LG Optimus 4X HD] muellersmattes:
Sounds realistic. Too bad the 4X won't be worth much after the Nexus/Optimus G release, so chances for trading it then (for a good price) will be low.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] The Troll:
i think im selling mine in the coming weeks

gonna swap for nexus 4 if bootloader's unlocked

otherwise wait for some other company to use s4 pro

frankly this was my first and last LG
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Phillmitchell:
Optimus g will also fall in price like the 4x in around 3 months. Could wait a few months and pick one up cheap however that phone will not be updated. So back to square one with any LG
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
Actually the Optimus G will receive JB update in December. Ofcourse, the international version would get it first.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] blade_:
you think we will see soon some good rom for optimus 4?

i wanna buy this phone,,but...with no custom roms..not many support..thats bad.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] WillySonicteam:
The 4X HD same. Only time... the phones L7 and L9 have ICS,and is a possible upgrade to JB.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] gelasbocor:
according to LGs speech in IFA berlin, they promise that Every LG phone on 2012 will get JB update as long as that device capable to run JB smoothly. LG 2011 time line is bad, but we have to put our big hope on LG to have good performance on their update for every 2012 phone...

perhaps they will doing great support for our Opt. 4X phone... Please LG dont screw it...

all LG phones is good but it will be better if they put their full attention on software and updates...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
Not trying to hate on Samsung or anything but, I'd take LG's build quality over any Samsung phone...even the S3. When i first got my S3, i thought it was a toy made for toddlers. It didn't have the premium feel that this O4X has...and the squeeky and lose volume buttons made it even worse. LG's only mistake with the O4X, is locking the bootloader. As far as build quality, the O4X is an A+ to me.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
i agree on quality somehow, but for the open source community its totally worthless.

an lg mobile do not belong in these sections when they try so hard to lock developers and modders out of the way.

im sure they sell a few sealed models in the shops, but looking at ads and good offers, the mobile is hardly a top selling mobile.

and a reputation can easily start in developer sections and kill part of the reviews found on the big web, keeping potential buyers away.

so yes, they are both Korean and they can both do different designs and quality can change depending our preference.

but LG is not joining any opensource community, onl if they are forced with their hands on the back, they want to protect their property and make some money.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ozeer:
I agree with you :)

Just I want to tell you Guys that the O4X will update to JB for sure and unlock the bootloader as other phones. We need just a little bit time to see the amazing results with this greatest phone ..

Please, Don't write bad things about this device and make it rubbish .. the phone is really superb

Best regards,
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
Hey, can someone tell me how's with Optimus G security? I'm interested about it a lot
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dfreake:
lg optimus l7 getting jellybean on january 2013....so yeah we might have to wait a little more for our update

nyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyan
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
Source?! Ehm, if L7 get it in January, we'll get earlier for sure
[LG Optimus 4X HD] hellchan:
only thing im interested in is an improvement to battery life. There's root for it now, so I'm grand with staying with the stock rom. My phone runs buttery smooth now, so I have no complaints about that. Wont be too bummed out if it isnt updated. If not for some interface changes I probably wouldnt know which was ICS and which was JB if you showed them to me ;P It is a good phone...just battery dammit. No real fix that everyone agrees on so far...very varying results but I'm grateful we have such amazing people around that keep trying..
[LG Optimus 4X HD] muellersmattes:
I think it will also have an encrypted bootloader without an unlock option.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Stopa:
I wrote email to LG branch in my country (Poland) with question about update to 4.1-.4.2

They answered to me, that they don'tt have any information about update for our phone at the moment :/

Let someone try to write email to LG branch in his country.... maybe they will have more information.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
@Stopa... in Poland no one knows nothing about nothing... sad but its like that :rolleyes:

To send the phone to LG Service we need to send it to Warszawa...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dante501:
Well u r from Poland what do u expect? Serious thought it may come it may won't. All I am waiting for is fully root then we can put jelly bean on this bad boy with a Rom.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
you are in luck then, o4x is fully root'd and got ClockWorkMod as well. all you need is a supporting developer.

i guess that means your jb plans is not fully visioned with root alone.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dante501:
Well not fully true. The bootloader is still locked so that's what keeps the 4x from having Roms. Hopefully that can be unlocked soon.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
indeed true, bootloader has nothing to do with any root access, that is a misunderstanding. On some mobiles you got onetime root only, which is what you state as fully rootable for our model if you know terms here, which o4x is fully rootable and not just onetime.

a bootloader hack has to do with a security compromise on how to your mobile check if you modified its loading and security on kernels.

a root access hack have to do with user access limitation to the files in the filesystem and process management, very different from kernel security and files security checks. (LG got a wallpaper binary checking if you modify files and brick your phone)

you should search youtube for O4x and sense4, there is actually shown my sense4 port, and others got the JB4.1 release which boots fine without a fully root/bootloader unlocking solution. its not all about bootloaders, its just all about using what we got and use it.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dante501:
Ah but the unlock bootloader would make things easier. Never seen a phone without like any Rom at all in recent memory.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] muellersmattes:
I don't know about ROM development, but you said in another thread that many bugs are kernel related. So without an unlocked bootloader we are still stuck with the stock kernel, right? And is the missing phone functionality in your Rom also kernel related, or is this a thing which could be fixed?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
i believe if you got the modem knowledge and know how to fix communication, that actually might work out without problems.

the kernel bugs i refer to are the wakelock events which makes the mobile respond slowly and wakeup in seconds from deepsleep instead of milliseconds.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] muellersmattes:
So to sum this up: We can have fully working custom roms with 2nd init (if someone manages to create one), but with unlocked bootloader it could work even better. So an unlocked bootloader would still be the preferred option for us.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Dexter_nlb:
part of the issues are protection/security, if some specific DRM files are changed not found the mobile will brick and show an error and not bootup at all, only recover is full kdz image install.

that would be fixed by a unlocked bootloader, since that security check would be disabled then. (waste of energy by LG since i skipped parts of it easily) but do require some workaround to work in a cm10 build
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Stopa:
Today I got reply form UK LG customer service

"Thank you for your email regarding your P880

Based on the information you have provided me with and reading through your query, I can advise you detailed information on the Jelly Bean update in the UK & Ireland will be updated later. I would advise to keep checking for updates using the support tool."
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
No doubt that the 4x will receive the JB update...question is when and which version? 4.1 or 4.2? Until LG sheds some more light, i'll still be committed in getting a Nexus 4.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dfreake:
i hope the 4.2 like their nexus 4 or 4.1 'with'

freaking unlocked bootloader atleast

nyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyan
[LG Optimus 4X HD] hietsu:
Doesn't matter. I just read a thread on android general, and it said that most of new stuff in 4.2 (like camera and kb) are replaced in touchwiz, sense and optimusui. Only things i need are project butter and google now :3

Sent from my LG-P880
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Rutifruti:
Isnt 4.2 key lime pie?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dfreake:
for some reason it still name jellbean

nyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyan
[LG Optimus 4X HD] bobby38:
Key Lime Pie is still not out ! Android 4.2 is just another version of Jelly Bean... so nothing very new here.

But same here, all I need is project butter ans battery enhancements....
[LG Optimus 4X HD] jest osebno:
O RLY?!

Just because of name?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Android_4.1.2F4.2_Jelly_Bean
[LG Optimus 4X HD] hietsu:
Lg has their own keyboard so we won't probably have the fancy swype thingy. Lg has also differend camera app for optimusui, so i doupt we get the new camera stuff. Multi user support? Thats kinda useless in phones, it's made for tablets that are less personal. Widgets in lockscreen? Ever heard about widgetlocker? I don't care if its 4.1, 4.2 or 4.3, i just want it as quickly as possible.

Sent from my LG-P880
[LG Optimus 4X HD] :
From the wikipedia what i guess it seems 4.2 is a larger than usual incremental update to 4.1.2 so google didn't want to make it sound like a totally new stuff unlike 4.0.4 to 4.1. But because of the size of the update google up'ed the 2nd digit nonetheless.

Google is doing it right. The way apple puts the current iPad 4 even though what it had was minor upgrade is misleading. Lets expect a really huge 'K' upgrade :D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
Do you guys not have Google Now yet on your O4X? If you don't let me know, and i will post the necessary files to have Google Now working on your O4X. I could actually care less if we do get the update tbh...My O4X is working great and exactly the way i want it.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] hietsu:
I've seen the thread but i think its kinda useless here behind god's back. It's fun to screw around with it on my sgs but i dont really have any use for it. But i can see that you lucky american citizens actually can benefit from it :) And my device is still without root. Btw, is it easy to unroot this?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
To unROOT takes you 5 minutes max.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
peeps, just answer me one question:

is 4.2 like update from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 or like 4.0 to 4.1?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] smoke2:
How do you make unROOT so quick?

Through LG PC Suite and emergency firmware recovery?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SimonTS:
Do people know how to use the 'Search' function on XDA? Finding this took me, literally, 15 seconds;-

N.B. I left spelling and grammar mistakes in from the original post :p
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
Nop... you have that option in SuperSU settings.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Nafiganado:
All i really care about in future update for my lovely Optimus 4x is battery life enhancement. Everything the rest is MORE than enough :)

If someone promises me great battery life in his ROM - i will flash it right away! :laugh:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] QweJay:
We'll have CM10 when LG unlock the bootloader.

Sorry about my bad English!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Arne_B:
Today I was chatting with the Dutch LG support for some question about formatting/resetting the firmware. Meanwhile I couldn't resist but also ask or there would be a next firmware update.

The response I got was this:

'The next update will be 4.1 Jelly Bean. When it will be released is not yet known by us. You can keep an eye on our Twitter and Facebook pages.'

See this screenshot (it's in Dutch):
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Egan:
The pattern LG is following seems to be this:

1. It releases a high-end device with an Android version older than the just released version of Android, in this case Ice Cream Sandwich instead of Jelly Bean.

2. They will promise that the update to the next version, in this case Jelly Bean, will come in a few months. You think it will be here in 2 or 3 months tops. Forget it!

3. The update is being postponed several times, but after almost a year you may finally get the update. So expect your Jelly Bean the earliest around March 2013.

4. But in the meantime a new version of Android has already been released by Google, in this case Jelly Bean 4.2, which makes the update feel kind of old and outdated.

5. You know your device is still one of the fastest around and with great specs. An update from Jelly Bean 4.1 to Jelly Bean 4.2 is easily done right? Forget it!

6. You will not see any official update for your device again, however the Korean version will receive it.

In the case of 4X its even worse. They announced the updates to Jelly Bean, but not for 4X: http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-...us-4x-hd-left-out-android-4-1-upgrade-122669/.

It remains a questions whether the 4X will receive an official update to Jelly Bean at all. LG remains silent...as always and you can't trust what your local LG Support tells you, they really do not know.

It appears LG only cares about new customers who buy their latest flagship device. It will eventually be their downfall, since their current customers will not buy LG again. It happened to 2X (which I have) and will happen to 4X. Next time you better buy Samsung. The Samsung Galaxy S2 even gets an update to Jelly Bean 4.1.2 this month.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] muellersmattes:
Totally agree, except one thing: The update list doesn't contain the 4X because it's not availible in Korea. And this list is for Korea only. Has been mentioned several times here.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
"In the case of 4X its even worse. They announced the updates to Jelly Bean, but not for 4X: http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-...us-4x-hd-left-out-android-4-1-upgrade-122669/."

Do You fu**in now that 4X is not Korean? it had been written in few topics.

And 4X will propably be updated in december-january
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Egan:
Sorry for that confusion then, I'm not much around this forum except to see how the 4X is doing compared to the 2X :).

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No, I didnt know so skip that part. However I truly hope you will receive the update around that time, but I wouldnt hold my breath on it.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
i don't know why everyone is so pessimistic, don't you know that LG are changing now? But it sure will take a time.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Winudert:
I think, we will get Jelly Bean (4.1) after CES 2013
[LG Optimus 4X HD] profyler:
my guess is february...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SimonTS:
How about people stop posting pointless comments and guesses in here - you might as well ask my Mum when we will get JB (she's 72 and scared of technology). Let's leave this thread for people to post useful comments, such as conversations they have with their local LG support for example?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nedooo:
LOL

So cool answer :laugh:

Lets all be sure we wont get JB, and if we get it we well be happy, if not we wont be disappointed :angel:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Greycloud:
My friend who bought O4X last month said that he will wait till Jan 2013. If Lg fails to issue any statement regarding JB update then he will file a case against Lg. Honestly I don't think that will change anything.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Winudert:
If LG do not release Jelly Bean in 2013 Q1, I will just throw this piece of crap (because of software) and will buy high-end Samsung phone.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SimonTS:
WTF is wrong with people? You bought the phone with ICS on it. The box didn't have a big sticker saying "Free upgrade to JB Guaranteed". As long as LG continue to provide bug fixes and patches they are doing all they are obliged to do - anything else is a bonus. I personally think the phone is great - I have played extensively with both the SGS3 and HOX and wouldn't trade my phone for either. As for JB, I have a Nexus 7 I use and JB is OK, but makes no real difference to my life - in fact, the latest version is a distinct step backwards.

Basically, if you don't like the phone then sell it and move on, but please stop whining about nothing.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] italianquadcore:
I fully agree with you. Moreover I cannot understand why some LG users don't enjoy this well-manufactured device, also looking at the pros (so many!!!), and not only at cons.

I am satisfied about this device, coming from an old Optimus One - another "hard" device (it still is alive and kicking ;).