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[Nexus 7 General] Ronaldo Forenucci:
Anti-Theft?

This thread stopped me from starting a new one, so thanks! :good:

Without a Sim Card or Cellular Radio, just how good can anti-theft be on this device?

Let me take it one step further and ask what *I* can use for anti-theft:

My N7 is encrypted with the built in encryption. The lock screen (which also serves as the decryption key (hashed)) is 16 characters and not found in a dictionary. I have the WiFi set to *not* alert to new access points, and it is off unless I'm using it at that moment via a VPN, etc... And I keep the GPS off unless I'm using it as well. Being a privacy nut, I have none of the location services enabled, and even block the GPS Service from sending data out, via Avast's! firewall (rooted N7).

So if a bad guy get's my N7, he has the lock screen to deal with. If he turns it off, he has the encryption to deal with. The GPS isn't on, and can't even communicate if it was, and the WiFi can't connect to anything.

So what can I do? Is this stuff mainly if the guy does some form of factory reset via a workstation? Even then, do these programs survive that?

I realize I am an extreme case, but even for a regular user who has a good lock screen set...how is the bad guy going to connect to a WiFi access point for the 'anti-theft' programs to be able to get a location and wipe commands?

Thanks,

RF
[Nexus 7 General] adfad666:
Isn't there some kind of bluetooth alarm in the play store that is triggered when your devices are a certain distance apart?

Pair the tablet to your phone in a public place, keep the phone in your pocket. If the tablet goes for a walk your phone and the tablet will activate their alarms.

I'll have to investigate that one...
[Nexus 7 General] Quinny899:
Maybe when they can't connect and the app is running (ie. Bluetooth is out of range). Tasker should do that I think
[Nexus 7 General] Run L1ke H3LL:
Wow man, idk if i would have been as kind as you. I probably wouldnt beat him up like all the tough guys but I would have called the police!
[Nexus 7 General] espionage724:
- Disable USB Debugging if it's on

- Set the USB Connection for Camera instead of Media

- Don't flash a permanent CWM recovery or anything other then stock (you can boot into CWM temporarily if needed though, not too sure how)
[Nexus 7 General] Beta Max:
It was Starbucks was trying to steal it from you.
[Nexus 7 General] sRDennyCrane:
Read that back to yourself...
[Nexus 7 General] androidkid311:
Really no need for that. Sounds like it could of been you that took it with that tone -_-
[Nexus 7 General] ysagas:
Hoooomieee he wasn't a good thief then, because any of the dudes from my hood jacked u and untouched them teeth would been shattered.

With that said we all are responsible to keep our devices safe, I never leave **** out anywhere when I used to bring my netbook to Starbucks I always took it into the bathroom with me imagine my tablet.

Next time pin homie down and call the po po....
[Nexus 7 General] lindenhurst:
He didn't say anything about being hostile. He meant that he is always aware of what is going on around him and makes sure he isn't an easy mark. I too am the same way, but probably more so because of my former occupation.

Trusting everyone will get you into trouble. It's the world we live in. You can not be too careful.

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If any of the dudes from your hood took my device, I would have kicked the **** out of them before they could do squat...plain and simple bro!

Most theives are punks...plain and simple.
[Nexus 7 General] beestee:
How nice of you!
[Nexus 7 General] DKLurifax:
Rofl

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[Nexus 7 General] Justinjesse:
any good anti thief app suggestions?
[Nexus 7 General] cdejesus1119:
Damn this stuff happens to me every two weeks... I open my check and see I been jacked by thieves. When I complain about it, I get told by a bunch snot nose kids that im being greedy and racist. .. Not meaning to inject politics here.. just saying..
[Nexus 7 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
You and every other American. How does this fit in here at all? If you don't like it, go move to another country and stop whining. Then let us know how you like it there.
[Nexus 7 General] adamhlj:
But if they see you with a $900 turtle neck, they may just leave you alone. Tho you could film the process and call it Terms of Enrampagement 2: Blood Vengance!!
[Nexus 7 General] timtlm:
SeekDroid is the best IMO. Cheap ($3), and great features and website. It came in really handy when my 3 year old hid my phone in her backpack and I couldn't find it. It can turn on the alarm full blast even if the sound is off.
[Nexus 7 General] :
That's all you did? Well, at least you got it back.

I would have asked for help to restrain the guy. Then I would have called to police to make sure he goes to jail.

Also, if I was absolutely positive that someone was walking away with my tablet, I would kick them very hard to ensure they can't get back up without feeling some kind of pain. Then I'd restrain them and call the police.
[Nexus 7 General] wasnt:
...like to look at bad things on the interwebz.

...am a terrorist.

...keep people in my closet.

...like to harvest human organs.

...am a drug trafficker

...wear woman's underwear.

:laugh:.
[Nexus 7 General] MatAuc12:
The funny thing is you dont get charged for anything if you dont "successfully" steal from someone else. Except if i includes assalut, armed robbery, threats, trespassing etc. "Maybe he could get charged for pickpocketing, but i doubt it would hold. Its like that in canada anyways, and us and canada laws are very similar on stuff like that.
[Nexus 7 General] sRDennyCrane:
I didn't invent the turtleneck, but I was the first to recognize it's value as a tactical garment.
[Nexus 7 General] zlagger:
:good: THIS

Made my day!
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
If rooted, the app Cerberus lets you enable GPS remotely. It also lets you install it as a system app if rooted, which means that the app will actually survive a factory reset (the rom would have to be manually wiped to get rid of the app).

It also includes a lot of other great features even if you're not rooted, like remotely locking the device (for those of us who can't stand lock screens), remotely wiping the device, setting off an alarm on the device, and taking pictures of the thief w/ the front facing camera any time he enters a wrong unlock code or dismisses the alarm.

Plus, there's really no battery drain, as the app barely does anything unless you connect to it via the web interface. It's a great app. I highly recommend it.
[Nexus 7 General] daggah:
I don't see any politics being injected here, just stupidity. I hear Somalia has a nice tax rate though. Maybe you'd like life better there?
[Nexus 7 General] Ronaldo Forenucci:
Thanks. So if bad guy just tries to use the tablet as I have it, no security app would help, because he can't connect to a WiFi hotspot...BUT, if the bad guy does a factory reset via a desktop, so that he can use it...the minute he connects to a WiFi network, Cerberus would have survived and can receive instructions via WiFi, correct? That's cool, I'll check it out. I generally don't like 3rd party 'web portal' security, because that 3rd party has access. Avast! on my phone just receives SMS instructions (They just recently set up a web portal, but it is optional). Obviously, without native SMS on the N7, this doesn't work.

To you other comedians talking about bodies in closets: LOL :D The EFF and EPIC disagree with you :D

RF
[Nexus 7 General] bendrexl:
Can you trigger a factory reset from a PC without doing a full re-flash? "Resetting" from a PC is usually a complete re-imaging of the device - nothing survives, even radio firmware is flashed, right?

With that in mind, someone can always do a complete wipe and use the device as if it were new. Even in the case of a phone, you can swap out ESN/IMEI numbers and use it on the same network again :/

But, if you've got encryption on and USB debugging disabled and such, your data should at least be safe since they'd need to re-flash to make the device usable, I think.
[Nexus 7 General] Raistline:
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this but there is a slight issue with Cerberus. If you have to reboot your phone for any reason, even if say it reboots it's self over night while charging, you will need to re-open the app for it to work properly. If you reboot the device and do not restart Cerberus it will not be able to protect.

I have tested this with many different ROM builds including stock and came up with the same result.

Just wanted to make sure you guys have fair warning on this.

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I was to traveling Hungary for work and while in the hotel I had an my OG Nook (with the mini touch screenon the bottom) out while reading a book on the VIP balcony and someone ask me about it. Their very first question was, "Wow, is that an iPad?" then immediately before I can respond, "How do you like the iPad?"

I went on to explain that it was an eReader and not an iPad or a tablet of any kind. I continued to explain the reason for using an eReader over a tablet for extended reading. They were very interested in it and amazed by it. Since they were from France they could not get a Nook but I let them know they could get an Amazon Kindle instead.

Long story short, people will confuse any portable device with an iPad just because of it's popularity and unknowledgeable they are about electronics, even if it bears no real life resemblance. Too bad Samsung didn't know these people or they would have had an great counter argument in court.
[Nexus 7 General] madman604:
id say most non techie people just assume the any tablet device is called an iPad, like an adhesive bandage is automatically a "Band-Aid"

on a different note, you never know if a thief is armed, it's not worth losing your life over a $200 toy. If you get it back, good, if you gotta fight, better think hard about that. just call the cops.
[Nexus 7 General] ickyboo:
Jokes on the thieve, It's not a iPad Mini that he was hoping for :D

Image kindly linked from herehttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1859283
[Nexus 7 General] jamesst20:
If it would be me, the guy would probably be at the dentist or the hospital right now :banghead:
[Nexus 7 General] sRDennyCrane:
Everyone's a tough guy on the internet.
[Nexus 7 General] Jay Aristide:
Some people are tough-guys off the internet, too.
[Nexus 7 General] lindenhurst:
Yep..
[Nexus 7 General] kryptik06:
Being tough doesn't mean you can fight..
[Nexus 7 General] Jay Aristide:
Being tough also often means you won't have to :)
[Nexus 7 General] sRDennyCrane:
lol @ that ridiculous signature. I can't imagine someone so threatened by products they didn't purchase, they'd ban them from their home. I'll presume it's a facetious joke making fun of Android fanbois. Well-played!
[Nexus 7 General] Jay Aristide:
It's not a joke, at all. It's a decision that was made by everyone in our home, and that image is proudly displayed on our front door.

Apple actively works to hinder and halt the progress of technology at every turn, and their products are not welcome in our home. It's us doing our part in our little corner of the world to educate the people in our lives to the tyrannical practices of Apple.
[Nexus 7 General] Quis89:
Your "hood" has a Starbucks???
[Nexus 7 General] opcow:
Translation: If it had been me I'd probably have a broken nose and a broken Tablet.
[Nexus 7 General] sRDennyCrane:
Fanbois make any camp look bad. Apple makes great products. They're just not what I want in a mobile device or a home computer. If Apple didn't do what Apple does, Android would probably not exist... or if it did, it's be something competing with some modern iteration of WinMo 6.5. Apple set the pace and the standard for the modern smart phone and tablet. Android lept ahead with phones and is poised to at least catch up with the tablets.

I hope Apple sells a ton of iPhone 5s. I hope it's a great product. That will inspire Android and Windows to improve, too. And in the end, it's the consumer that wins.

Silly little signs and closed little minds do nothing but stagnate the communities.
[Nexus 7 General] Quinny899:
Android would exist, it was in development before iOS, so why would it be effected? I think the share now without iOS would be mostly Android, some WinMob and some BB (which is even worse)
[Nexus 7 General] sRDennyCrane:
As I said, Android would look totally different... it would be competing with WinMo 6.5. And that was just awful. I know, I had an Omnia and a Moto Q.

Apple raised the bar, and as a result, Android is now FAR better than iOS. Android now is what Apple could only hope to become several versions from now.
[Nexus 7 General] ÜBER™:
I'm sorry but android IS NOT competing with iOS. That is just what it seems like but android is what it is because of its developers not some ****ty company attempting to replicate it. :cool: everybody else is always comparing... but android is no where near comparable to iOS. The point in iOS is to make you think your too stupid to do it yourself... so this is how you must do it. That is why its closed source that is why its a POS OS. Plain and simple their products are nothing more than an economic stature and that's the only reason people buy their crap to begin with. I own an android because of the possibilities not because everybody else has it, that is something that cannot be said about everyone that owns and apple product.

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[Nexus 7 General] sRDennyCrane:
Oh, the delicious irony...
[Nexus 7 General] ÜBER™:
Oh wow got a grammar Nazi... piss off.

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[Nexus 7 General] bballer71418:
I really don't understand peoples hate for apple...they make great products. If they were a POS then corporations wouldn't buy them for their employees. To most people, owning a smartphone is about calling, texting, surfing, and gaming. That's it. Both platforms do this very very well. And in my opinion they do make the best laptops on the planet. I absolutely love my MBA. Fanboys are stupid. Learn to accept the faults and upsides of every platform and then compare that to what you want to get out of your phone.

For me, as a college student, the ability to sync notes/tasks across all my 3 devices would be unbelievably convenient, which is why I will probably pick up the new iPhone coming out. Does that mean I'm going to toss out my nexus 7? Of course not I love the form factor. And I do tons of browsing on it. The android ecosystem lacks in a few places where apples shines. Both have done a lot for the mobile industry and both should stay alive for the good of the consumer.

And FYI, Andy Rubin created android as a blackberry competitor, hence my the first phone didn't have a software keyboard. So without the iPhone, android would look much different then it does today.
[Nexus 7 General] espionage724:
I don't understand why people are even talking about Apple in this thread (not aiming this at just you).

I don't prefer Apple products. I think the iOS platform is a bit too locked down. Does everyone feel this way? Nope. Do I need for force my reasoning onto everyone? Nope, and why bother? A person liking something I don't like isn't affecting me in any way.

Not sure why people feel the need to derail topics with silly fanboy wars...
[Nexus 7 General] bombadier:
Did you contact the developer? Just tested the issue you mention on my HTC Vision with CM7 ILWT and stock unlocked Nexus 7 and had no problems with Cerberus working properly,did not need to reopen to "activate" it again,not sure where your problem lies.......

+1 Cerberus
[Nexus 7 General] Jay Aristide:
/summarily_dismissed
[Nexus 7 General] sRDennyCrane:
Spot on. As I said, I hope the new Apple iPhone and tablets are phenomenal. This will inspire EVERYONE to step up their game... just as Android made Apple step up theirs.

There's plenty of room for all phones and tablets from all manufacturers. Someone else liking their Apple product doesn't take a thing away from my experience with my Android devices.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Phalangees:
Hello all,

Hopefully making a poll like this isn't against forum rules. I'm just trying to gauge what ROM's people are running on their Verizon Galaxy S IIIs.

Vote away, and if you pick 'Other,' please make a note of what it is you are running in a post.

Thanks for voting!

-Phalangees

Edit: Just realized I forgot ParanoidAndroid hybrid JB ROM. I don't believe I can edit the poll in any way to add that option. Sorry about that. I would say throw that under Other (JB).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Phalangees:
I had a hunch a lot of you would be running Synergy. Do most of you use a custom kernel, like Imoseyan's lean kernel? Or do you still use a stock kernel?

Thanks again for your responses. :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Karl:
Stock kernel for now

Sent from my Galaxy S III using Forum Runner
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Phalangees:
Those of you that voted 'Other (ICS)' or 'Other (JB)' could you tell us what ROM you are using? I'm interested to here about all the options available.

I think the most interesting part will be coming back to this thread in a few months and seeing how out of date it will be. There will likely be all sorts of new ROMs, or a lot more stability on JB ROMs.

Thanks again for your responses.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cyrus41592:
Runnin Droid Hacker's CM10 port and it runs beautifully. Invisiblek's CM10 and custom kernels are also good for this phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cordell12:
Cyanogen10
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] trafalger888:
Stock rooted with the invisblek v2 kernel
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] xmrlazyx:
running invisblek's newest CM 10. Liking it :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] droidstyle:
Beans b7 w/ imo 12-2 leankernel.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dpwhitty11:
"Other JB" ParanoidAndroid here.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TheDiabolicaL1:
I'm still on Synergy 1.3. I just went down into town today (I live in the sticks) and **** me if they don't have 4g there now! Awesome. Except the god damn phone kept dropping back to 3g. Seemed to do it every time the screen turned off. I took the opportunity, using 4g to download the latest Beans and Synergy ROMs but, that ****ing 4g drop had me pretty pissed off and I don't think I'll bother doing it. Revert the phone back to stock and send it on its way.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ScottyS:
Get rolling fast with a new phone? Yes.

Since I don't have time to monkey with stuff, I jump on whatever bandwagon has the most use and support (thanks to all the people who DO have time to monkey with stuff). Accordingly, I got my subsidized upgrade from VZW yesterday in the form of an S3.

I'd been running an OG Incredible on CM7. Zero problems, worked when I needed it.

I got home, rooted using this fast, simple method: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1792342

Loaded up CWM Rom Manager and flashed Synergy v1.6 before doing anything to the phone other than having it activated by the gal at the VZW store.

Have all my apps installed and Ti backed up. Have my IMAP email running. No issues and the battery was great today. Now to start using it.

Likely I'll go back to CM once official and stable, but this seems a good stopgap.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] asmallchild:
Synergy 1.6
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] rpenkar:
Running Synergy with 1.6 here (with imoseyon's kernel) and it's running great. Amazing support from the developers and soon there will be nightly builds being released. No complaints here!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] abissel22:
Still rokin stock. Afraid to kexec into cm9 or aokp cuz i dont wanna loose. S-beam or motion activation features

Sent from my SCH-I535
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Marcismo55:
CM10 for the time being but AOKP JB is coming up fast :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] screwyluie:
Aokp jb ftw!

The only thing I miss is the camera app from stock, if I could get that on this ROM the world would be perfect
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bill3508:
Sent from Galaxy S3 running CleanRom 1.0, Imo v.0.1
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] azbobs:
Synergy 1.7 Running good

First of all glad to be back.

With a new phone was at

my ends with the Thunderbolt

and lack of updates from the

big red. So I feel sort of a trader

leaving HTC to Samsung. I want

to say Samsung rocks!

Very happy with the S3 and running on

synergy 1.7 had run the IMO v0 beta

worked gr8.

Only cons for me on IMO's kernel

when the phone is off and would charge via wall charger it would vibrate every few seconds and never charge more than 80% range. If I left the phone on and charged via wall would not do this

When you restart the phone from cold start will go through a series of 3 reboots before coming to the main screen sometimes it would end up in the recovery menu, I also wiped cache, dalvik three times before flashing.

Love IMO's kernels they rock but the mult reboots for me has kept me

on the stock with SynergysROM 1.7

Cheers,

Azbobs
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cbrehob:
CM10 invisible nightlies
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] piiman:
Agree cm10 seems to be missing stuff when I use it. Tw has a great camera app and the motion thing is cool and others. I think cm needs to start thinking out of the box again as it seems like(to me) they are behind the times now. They used to have options that the phone needed but now I just feel like its lacking. I love them on my hp touchpad though!0
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mytoy1:
running

Synergy love it awsome rom lovn the battery life and speed
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] titaniac:
Stock

I'm stock rooted. Downloaded synergy 1.7 but haven't flashed it yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ekklesiaillusion:
NoSympathys deodexed stock rom and imo's v01 beta leankernal...on 6 hours and at 74% battery..

Sent from my SCH-I535
[HTC Incredible S] Cobra218:
Hi

i have use a se wm 600 bluetooth headset and htc incredible s and dont work track id on headset displey
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JustusIV:
So i have a tablet that isnt detecting the update... it is on version .17

Is there a way to manually apply it?

This thing is stock and i need to leave it stock. i just want to apply the update.
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robgee789:
Have you unlocked your bootloader mate
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JustusIV:
No....

i dont want to do that. This is not my tablet.

If there is a way to do it by hand thats what i want.

Like download firmware from asus extract put on micro sd or something.
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] capt730:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=25385687

Has options for rooted or unrooted devices.
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JustusIV:
I did read through that I just thought there would be an official way of doing it.
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funnel71:
This is perfect. I should have searched harder. This answers all my questions concerning reloading same firmware if needed and no unlock required. THANK YOU
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] capt730:
Unfortunately I don't know another way.

Welcome :)
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funnel71:
I was thinking like you that you could put the inner zip on a memory card and it would pick it up that way but i haven't heard success using that method. Couldn't hurt to just try it. Won't break anything.
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JustusIV:
oh i have tried that :P

Thx though..
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgaf:
What exactly did you do? Try this

Download desire firmware from Asus website extract that archive into the root of your micro sd card. Insert sdcard into pad and wait a bit, if you don't get an update notification restart tablet with card still inside and wait for notification.

If that doesn't work got to settings about tablet and manually check for for ware update every hour until you get it.