[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Frogger27:
With all due respect, this thread is a lot of trashing us noobz and ROM Manager, and people who brick because they couldn't find the right information, but you have to go pages deep to find any substance beyond the trash talk. A more informative post might have obviated the need for further questions that you seem to disdain so much.

OK, I was going to let the accusation of "attitude" slide, because I can somewhat concur - due to my level of frustration, it was dumb and I apologize - but I call BS against the accusation of disrespect, as none was intended, and I fail to see anything in that quote that is not factual.

I'm obviously not a fool because I haven't come here with a brick. Per your advise, I am seeking knowledge beforehand. Do you know how many hits a search for cwm or ROM Manager returns? And weeding through that, 75% is "Go away and search noob, that question's been answered!" When I find this sticky, that is the manna I seek, I find disparaging comments about noobz, ROM Manager, and brickers. That's not disrespect, that's a fact:

- "people who use ROM manager are typically those who don't take time to do their research or read the forums before rooting (if they did, they would know better), so they probably won't see your much-needed warning until they brick their phones and come here for help...(sigh)

(Paradoxically, I am one who did do the research, did find the thread (less than useful), and was still disparaged!)

- If you're a noob the stickies are poison.

- I had to laugh: Enthusiasm without knowledge is not good (This should be a popup that shows up every time you come to the xda site!) (+1,000,000)

(Yet let's abase those who come here seeking said knowledge.)

- You're that guy that presses the red button when everyone tells you not to, aren't you?

You're EXTREMELY wrong. So wrong in fact that I can't begin to explain why.

As a sticky, it should at least provide useful information. If I have cwm installed from ROM Manager, am I good using it but not ROM Manager? Do I use the restore included in the ROM, use TWRP, Ext4, AmonRa, or Odin? Is there a one-size-fits-all solution or does each depend on the ROM?

The thread as it stands elicits more questions than it answers. No mention of WHAT to use in the original sticky post. Just a warning against ROM Manager. I'm not the first and only one to point that out. Posts starting on page 4 and on from users confused and seeking direction and clarification.

First post with meaningful information: Post #30 (by yourself! Yay you!) Read through the horror stories of people bricking their phones. If you need to flash things, do it the correct way and use CWM, not a shortcut.

I think there's a certain level of (probably deserved) diva-dom going on here that some people get off on. You can see the minions abasing themselves before you (all) in the hope that you'll share some of your hard-earned knowledge with them, probably resulting in resentment that why should they get it so easy just by asking when you had to find out through the sweat of your balls (sorry ladies), (the least they can do is **** off and search):

- if anyone out there is kind enough, knowledge enough, and has the time, I would appreciate it if you could impart some of your wisdom that way myself, and future readers of this sticky, will read this

- or am I about to get slapped

Can someone explain to a retard, (me) what exactly is happening here?

Listen, I know it's got to be tedious to be answering the same questions over and over. But it's got to be at least as tedious to tell people if they're too dumb to find the answer on their own, then they're probably too dumb to be fracking around with their phones. (unless you've got a macro I guess)

You guys are awesome. That's not sarcasm. You provide invaluable information and I'm sure you're all smart as heck. We'd all be lost here without you and we really REALLY do appreciate it. A bit of tact and diplomacy would round that out nicely.

You (as a group, not personally) accuse people who ask questions of being either lazy or stupid, but this thread was born of the same. It should have been properly rewritten before being made into a sticky. A directive to NOT use something is hardly informative.

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