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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
So I got a spare housing from ebay and painted it red along with the original battery door.

Lemme know your veiws guys

Pictures here

http://imageshack.us/g/442/dscn3475r.jpg/

Anybody needs help painting there gnex , feel free to ask here.

Take 2

pictures attached.

used - Duplicolor Vinyl/Fabric spray and adhesion promoter.

Steps

wet sand the body and battery cover with 800 grit sandpaper until all paint on the housing is gone (will take some time) and the samsung and google logo on battery back is black (will also take some time).

A layer of adhesion promoter, left to dry for 10 minutes

followed by 5-6 layers of Duplicolor at interwals of 20 mins each.

after final coat leave to dry for 4 hours and we are good.

Credits

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1715806
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] swiftinmotion:
Looks dope

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
Would look good with my red theme. :D:D:D JK looks good.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] diabloking:
Looks sick nice job.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Roxy:
Not bad - though I wish I could see more detail since most ( if not all ) of the pictures are out of focus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Thanks ....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Please link to your theme ...am on JB Bamf
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Just a lil spray painting .....;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dyingearth:
OK. Not my thing, but ok.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Will take pictures with my t3i tomorrow around the same time and report back to you dude ....enjoying beer as of now ....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Here are some pictures of the housing only painted

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1769290

Last page of above thread .....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Ha ha ....I know not everybody would like a red phone ....but personally I love the color red ..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thephantom:
it may be out of focus but it looks sick! (i mean sick in a nice way OP)

good job. even the buttons are painted red
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
Lol it's in themes and apps. Should be at the top.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Yeah ....the buttons were a pain after painting as there wasn't enough room for them to move freely ....had to scrape off some paint using a knife and now they are perfect ....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Roger that ....will try it tomorrow....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Glad to see a lot of members finding this cool ....thanks guys
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tsnstuff:
Maybe it's because of the blurry pictures, but the paint looks a bit dull. Other than that I can tell you took great care in painting it, I mean, it certainly looks like it is very well done.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Ha ha ....the pictures maybe blurry but I can assure u it looks good ....wait till I get up some pics from my t3i tomorrow
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] verruckterGeck:
I have a week of vacation coming up and am thinking of trying this as part of stuff I wanna do over that period.

How do I get started? I want to paint it BLUE or RED

Thanks in advance.

vG
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
well order an extra housing, buy a spray can of plastidip and spray the housing.

no sanding done by me, the best part about plastidip is that if you screw up you can just take it off as it is a rubber coating, the negative part is that it is not permanent and as it is a layer of rubber it will start to come off the edges soon, i painted my housing 2 days ago and it is already coming off from the bottom edges....i guess I am gonna go the permanent way soon , a layer of adhesion promoter and then some layers of red spray paint (not plastidip) followed by clear but that would need too much perfection in spray painting which I do not have as of now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Just make sure when you are painting it no part of the surface which needs to be painted is in contact with any surface, I rested my housing on a half cut perfume box.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] duppyy:
Looks awesome.

I would want to paint mine white or orange lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
Looking great.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Arthur Hucksake:
Looks better than my white Nexus with the grey / metallic battery cover. Not been able to find a white one for the extended cover.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Looks better but the plastidip has started peeling of from the bottom edges ....looks like I need a layer of something on top of plastidip ....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chancy319:
You obviously took your time doing this. I'm just not a fan of the color.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] calvinpn:
Not something I'd do, but doesn't look bad... good job!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Bad news - plastidip started peeling off from a lot of places ....not recommended or there has to be something which needs to used on top of plastidip
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kyokeun1234:
GIVE ME THAT! Lol, but really, looks amazing :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MS.:
Can't open the link (thanks for image shark) so i'll assume your GNex now looks horribly :)

Edit. Nevermind, it worked now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
yeah horrible now as the paint had to be stripped off :(

will try something else soon ..a red gnex looks so hot :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ameer925:
Should do a tutorial listing any steps and tools (type of paint and stuff like that)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
well it was a failed try , used plastidip without sanding and it came of the edges within a day ..will sand and use some real paint this time ..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Skvanorn:
Looks cool...

Skickat från min Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
take 2 pictures up and also a short tutorial
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheMuffStuff:
My red nexus is nicer. *****. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Wassup dude ....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 309041291a:
This is awesome! I wonder if anyone has made a fully* white Gnex.

Nexus S. (GSM i9020a)

Paranoid (1.97a - 4.1.1)

Air Kernel (Week 171 - Voodoo)

SmartassV2 (800/200)

Deep Idle (On - Deadline)

Black Exodus (Inverted apps)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xc8118:
Looks great excited to see how it turns out. Was it easy to switch everything over to the new housing?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gkastrinos:
Wow. That looks insane. Well done.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nikeman513:
How difficult is it to take off the original housing? Did you end up damaging it in the process? I'm interested in painting mine white, or at least find the white house replacement. Is there a web page with a tutorial that can point me in the right place? Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
I guess there is no fun in painting it white as u already have white housings available
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Pretty easy ....six screws and 5 minutes of patience to take off the original housing
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
No damages ...all smooth ....check YouTube for a video on how to take off the housing
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 309041291a:
Fully* white. Even the front is what I mean.

Nexus S. (GSM i9020a)

Paranoid (1.97a - 4.1.1)

Air Kernel (Week 171 - Voodoo)

SmartassV2 (800/200)

Deep Idle (On - Deadline)

Black Exodus (Inverted apps)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Thanks dude
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheMuffStuff:
I have to take off my original housing when I switch from red/white to stock. Its kind of annoying, its just 6 screws but popping it off is hard, and scary cuz you dont want to break anything lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Not sure on the front ....guess that's part of the LCD ..not sure though
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
The risk is always there ....u just have to be patient
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zixin:
... now just add the Ferarri emblem :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Madsunable:
Nice job. It looks awsome!

Gesendet von meinem Galaxy Nexus mit Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Only if I had the talent to add a prancing horse. Damn that would look so hot ..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jason.hamilton:
Just print out a Ferrari symbol and cut it out then paint it using it like stencil. Would look pretty sweet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
any videos for reference for this type of work ....

also any images you would like to suggest ..cutting out a prancing horse will be tough ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sstang2006:
You have some unique taste when it comes to red phone and those red racing stripes on your car :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheMuffStuff:
He thinks hes a hot shot ;) LOL
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
ha ha ..red is my favorite color...

edit

I see u from Miami as well and have a cobra ..are you on any of the local mustang forums ...?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
ha ha ... hot shot was a nice movie ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheMuffStuff:
Im moving an hour from miami. Woot woot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
where thou moving sir ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RoadHazard:
Looks pretty sweet, but I actually think it would have looked even better if you hadn't painted the buttons. Leaving them their original color would have created some nice contrast instead of everything just being red.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheMuffStuff:
Thats how my nexus is, power and volume left stock grey, but everything else is red

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Baladeen:
does it run hotter after the painting?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sstang2006:
I don't have the mustang anymore and it wasn't a cobra just a GT.

I traded it in for a 335i. So much freaking expensive to mod :mad:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
no sir ....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
ha ha ......luxury or muscle is a difficult choice I guess...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
nice ....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ARchamps:
Hey there. What is the adhesion promoter you used? I saw another member use just the vinyl spray and it came out the same. Looks great! I might do blue.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
dont know the name , just picked the one available at advanced auto parts
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kameleongt:
Kleanstrip makes a great adhesion promoter. Just make sure its compatible with whichever kind of topcoat you use./acrylic/urethane...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] busha:
Do you have to sandpaper?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dmuhamma:
That looks really cool. I'd be afraid of messing up. Thanks for sharing!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TJBunch1228:
Please make a bunch of these and sell them in MP :) will gladly buy one off you. Would look badass with UBER's red theme I'm using.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] infazzdar:
Someone should try to Plasti-Dip their Galaxy Nexus!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Duce HD2:
Damn! Nice work dude!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
yups ..sanding was done with a 800 grit ..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
in case of a mess up ...sand again ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
well I can make one for you but who would pay 50-60 bucks for one?

the body and battery cover will be around 20 bucks, 12 bucks for the paint , 5 for the sandpaper, 3 for the masking tape, 5 bucks for shipping and a whole day of effort ..add to that if while putting it on something goes bad and you wont be able to fix it ..but yeah if u need one I can do one for you ....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
if you read the OP , first take was done using plastidip and it off within a day ....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Thanks dude ...it's an eye catcher now ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KeylanHalfdan:
I tried this about 2 months ago, and the red paint started coming off during the next day. I will have to try the auto parts store for the adhesion promoter, and some good spray paint.

Other places suggested model paint and model assist paint, but that was a fall. I did mine on red for the casing, and left the battery cover and buttons their original color. Ended up buying a new casing off of eBay.

Any tips on where to put masking tape for the inside?

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Nexus running Fruits 'N Vegetables with bacon grease (FNV007) via Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Pictures attached , the whole inside was masked . Put in some bounty first and then stick masking tape on top of it just revealing the sides of the inside a lil ...

Picture of paint used also attached , bought from Napa auto parts

Hope it helps

sent from my limited edition red galaxy nexus ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kcls:
My God is that sexy. It would look freaking amazing with some racing stripes. I am so doing this when I get my nexus.

Tapatalk² from my Optimus V
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TJBunch1228:
Damn you're right, that is a lot of work. I may just buy a housing and try it myself. Either way, looks badass.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Yeah ...give it a try. Ain't that hard ..just watch a few videos on how to spray paint and ull b good

sent from my limited edition red galaxy nexus ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
White with red stripes. Red with black stripes ...:)

sent from my limited edition red galaxy nexus ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] planeteclipse:
loed unireces

looks really good.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Euzhan:
Great work
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
^^ glad you guys like it ^^
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KeylanHalfdan:
Just got paid, so I am going to try to go out this weekend and buy some paint and stuff at either AutoZone or advanced auto parts. Is there a specific brand for adhesion promoter?

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Nexus running Fruits 'N Vegetables with bacon grease (FNV007) via Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
I used duplicolor adhesion promoter. .. .just one coat

sent from my limited edition red galaxy nexus ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Euzhan:
Why red? That's one of your favorite color?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Yes sir ...

sent from my limited edition red galaxy nexus ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Euzhan:
Good choice! :D

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Lol and great signature to. Very unique. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kcls:
Red with white stripes fo sho :D

Tapatalk² from my Optimus V
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Will look hot ...

sent from my limited edition red galaxy nexus ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Thanks again

sent from my limited edition red galaxy nexus ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] verruckterGeck:
Say I pay 75 bucks for one, would you do one for me? Not that I can't do it, with two young kids and a wife who goes to school full time, my week of vacation came and went and I couldn't event wash my car :(

A few questions -

What could go wrong here?

Thanks,

vG
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
yes Sir, I can do it for you.

What can go wrong is that you spray on an area or two for say 2 seconds so you end up screwing up that part or if some dust particles or fiber from the air get trapped in the layers of paint giving it a bad look the you need to sand again and redo.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] verruckterGeck:
Sweet!!!! How do you want me to pay you? Paypal? How do you want me to specify the color? Please PM me the details.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
well we lemme know the color here itself, i'll order an extra housing from ebay along with a battery covery (please note this will take around 15 days to come as it will come from China).

Once I am done, I will send you pictures of the finished product and if you like it you can pay me and I'll ship it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fuego77:
Hmmm I have a white housing on my phone and have an extra original/ black housing sitting in the box. Would look sick a yellow color don't you think? Or turquoise!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
I wish I could help yaa with choosing a color ..it's a personal choice dude ..:D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nasimdejai:
Awesome colour dude.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
^^ Thanks ^^
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] verruckterGeck:
You are the best! Since you said you used Dupli Color - Vinyl and Fabric Coating, I went to their site and selected two colors (in order of preference)

1. Blue - HVP102

2. Deep Red - HVP107

Please go ahead with my order. I am ready to pay you in advance too.

Thanks,

vG
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Cool ...I'll order the housing tomorrow ....

sent from my limited edition red galaxy nexus ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] IIIPowerIII:
Thanks for these post

I have an extra housing here, but I'll try it :P it doesn't look that hard. I ill have to find a way to paint the metal between the housing and the lens, and it got scratched pretty fast.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zae357:
Awesome!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] verruckterGeck:
Look what I found ...

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.ca/viewitem?itemId=320817235424#ht_6624wt_1052

It'd be cool if you can find a paint that is close to the blue or green screen protector here. You should totally get the red for your phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
well I'll think about the red protector , but your housing has been ordered and should be here within the next 15 days ..just a question, I hope you are in the states, coz international shipping would be pretty expensive ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sferg.410:
Looks Crap

am I the only one who thinks it looks crap?

the workmanship is excellent, but end result is crap, it is overkill, needs something to break up all that red. The Nexus as it comes is not all one single colour everywhere.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
And I thought the housing and battery cover were same color except for those white Google and Samsung texts

Respect your opinion though ..

sent from my limited edition red galaxy nexus ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KeylanHalfdan:
Interesting screen protectors. I checked them out on eBay, but the red is not listed as an option for me, perhaps it is sold out, or my phone is acting up.

Here are some shots from my first paint job over 2 months ago

I am going to try to paint it the same way, and hopefully the new paint will work better than the old stuff.

Did you use the standard color housing, or did you order the white housing to paint yours?

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Nexus running Fruits 'N Vegetables with bacon grease (FNV007) via Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
even I cant see red out there ...

also, your pictures aint visible ..

I sanded the original housing down to black using a 800 grit sandpaper and then painted it red ..

the battery cover was sanded using same 800 grit sand paper until the google and samsung text were all black ....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KeylanHalfdan:
I thought the pictures were just acting up in tapatalk, I uploaded them on tapatalk to be hosted on their server. I just tried again to do it, and it seems like it is the same thing, weird.

Ok, I remember reading another post about someone getting a white housing, and I thought you had originally posted that you painted it red on there. Could have been someone else, but it was see someone pointing their hiding and battery cover all red. Wasn't sure if you used the original or a white housing.

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Nexus running Fruits 'N Vegetables with bacon grease (FNV007) via Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
IMHO getting a white housing for 60-70 bucks and painting it red would be waste of money .. would cost u around 100 for the whole diy
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheMuffStuff:
Me and munchy have special nexii. I wonder if buying a white cover sticker would look good with my white painted housing...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
White cover sticker for what ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] threepio:
Looks good. Hopefully it holds up.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheMuffStuff:
The front of the nexus. A white skin is the the right word to use
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
gotcha ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
will hold ..has been holding good ...:fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] verruckterGeck:
I live in Ohio. Please let me know when the housing arrives and before you paint it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Yes sir , will do ....

sent from my limited edition red Gnex ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ARchamps:
I tried this out using gloss black. Didn't come out perfect... but I'm going to re-sand using the right sandpaper this time and apply some more coats.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thephantom:
Your definition of not perfect still rocks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
what sandpaper did you use, an in what grit?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Some1withBalls:
looks great! Mine would look awful if id try to pray it :)

I would prefer black or silver (real silver :p)!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ARchamps:
I used what I found in my garage. I was impatient lol. I'm going to light sand with 800 grit so hopefully it comes out a bit better. I'll take some more pics when I do!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
cool...but if the sandpaper used for very rough then I guess the damage is already done, you will have to smooth out the housing ..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ARchamps:
Yea I figured its not going to be perfect. My brother wants to paint his too so 2nd try will hopefully be better. Only reason I did this in the first place is because my current housing has a huge ding on the side.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] verruckterGeck:
I guess its HOT PINK and not Red as I'd thought. It looks red on my screen. My eyes are screwed up. Does the 3rd one in the top row look red to anyone?

@ munchy_cool - I ordered the Sky Blue protector. FYI.

vG
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
will let you know once I get the housing so that you can choose the paint color ...:good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] verruckterGeck:
Will this paint work?

http://www.duplicolor.com/products/metalSpecks/

I was thinking of the Ocean Blue one. I don't know anything about paint, primer or adhesion.So, you tell me.

Thanks,

vG
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
to be very frank I tried the paint already tried and tested by another member but if you want this one we can give it a try and see how it goes, so once I get the housing I'll let you know and you can let me know which paint you want and we can give it a try for a sure and see how it comes out ....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ARchamps:
That paint looks cool. Let us know how it goes!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
I couldnt bear making it a solid color because i go through phases of liking colors. For the longest time i wanted everything blue... now i want everything Red... so i would probably just make my a matte black or white universal :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
I have been trying to use your theme but I havent gotten the time to do so ..it's been hell of a few days at work..can't wait for the long weekend ..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mikehunt22:
Very clean looking my friend!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Thanks dude...

sent from my limited edition red Gnex ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ARchamps:
Finally got a chance to resand and put a few more coats. Again, it's not perfect but much better. You can only see the few imperfections up close. Now that I realized my mistakes, I can do it again doing a better job. I'll probably do it soon for my bro. Let me know what you think!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
Looks good ...but I personally prefer matte black

sent from my limited edition red Gnex ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kinfolk248:
i just saw a guy in a similar thread paint his black and red, i think he used the same vinyl paint as you. But my question is, how is it holding up cus i wanna paint mine but not if the paint is chipping adn coming off ya know...if i paint it i dont wanna be redoing it every month or couple weeks ya know, i wanna set it and forget it lol lol like the infomerical lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] munchy_cool:
yeah the guy with the black and red paint job here is me.

The vinyl is holding up pretty good. if you want to hold it up longer just put on a layer of clearcoat after the final spray of vinyl.

Mine vinyl paint on the red housing came off from the edge as I dropped the phone flat on the screen side, it came off from a small part on the rear as well because i put the phone in the same pocket as I had my car keys so the key scratched the paint, other than that it is holding up pretty good.