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[Asus Transformer TF700] Guardsix:
I just switched to ADWex because Apex and Nova were crashing all the time. The stock launcher wastes too much screen space so I was trying to find a launcher that would allow me to go edge to edge. ADWex does that and I've only had a few crashes with it.

It's an old launcher and doesn't like some widgets. I'm like everyone else, I'm waiting for Chameleon. Should get my email notice today!
[Asus Transformer TF700] timrock:
Give Nova Launcher a try. Its really nice.
[Asus Transformer TF700] R2N2:
Do not assume any such thing...

I believe that isn't even a good working assumption. First, I suspect that first adopters are typically more experienced Android owners. In my experience, experienced users are rarely happy with many stock applications; hence not likely to be happy with the launcher and are willing to try other launchers.

For my self, I have yet to find a stock launcher whose functionality isn't limited. On my TF700t I switched it out a couple of hours after getting the tablet. Until recently I had been using, successfully, ADWlauncher EX. The other day I installed Nova Launcher to test it and it is the current 'default' launcher.
[Asus Transformer TF700] stunya:
that is a good point for sure. I didnt think about the early adopter status.

Thoughts on Nova vs Adw EX?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Keion:
You make us sound like angry old men unhappy with anything stock ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
Currently the best launcher for TF700T is..... GO LAUNCHER HD. Give it some times nothing can catch up with it. Currently it only has about 60% of the features of Go Launcher Ex. Go Launcher Ex has proved to be the top launcher for all smart phones.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gottahavit:
Adwex is the only launcher i'll use on tablet. Soo much faster sand flexible than other launchers. Status bar is the only odd thing i've noticed, but can get to setting from menu.
[Nexus 7 General] GeneralCrocket:
I don't think so, this whole defect thing definitely left a stain on the Nexus brand.

When you think Nexus, you think perfect. :o
[Nexus 7 General] miketoasty:
I can almost guarantee there were more devices that were perfect versus those that had issues. Plus Googles time frame for start to finish was a little ridiculous.
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
No chance in hell they use crappy Asus again. I'd put money on it.
[Nexus 7 General] aki480:
Maybe they'll change up the way they release a new product through the Google Play store. The whole bit with people being able to get them through retail channels faster than the preorders was a disaster. I hope they stay with Asus, if they can learn from their mistakes. I'm sure it's a pretty steep learning curve for the manufacturing and QC guys for any new product line.
[Nexus 7 General] Ravynmagi:
Yes. I think most of ASUS problems are with it's initial batch of tablets. After about a month things seem to smooth out. So I'll probably do my best to hold out a month next time. But that's so hard for me because I'm impatient too. :)
[Nexus 7 General] neotekz:
There's threads like yours in the galaxy nexus forums saying the exact same thing but about Samsung and how google should choose another company. All these companies will have their own problems. The nexus like is not perfect and not meant to be, its where google test its new android builds.
[Nexus 7 General] Toast95135:
I'm really surprised to hear about all the quality issues with the Nexus, it's pretty disappointing :( . I have the OG Transformer and I LOVE it, it's been amazing.
[Nexus 7 General] AZImmortal:
I agree with the time frame being ridiculous, but I don't know about most devices being perfect considering how many people are going through multiple replacements with defects. It'd be different if the first replacements everyone got were perfect, but I see a lot of people settling on units with relatively minor defects because they fear that their 4th replacement will be worse than their 3rd. I love my Nexus 7, but even I'm settling on the minor defects that it has (minor screen separation and multitouch issue) because I'm afraid that a replacement would be much worse.
[Nexus 7 General] JD914:
No matter which OEM Google uses in the future, there will always be unhappy people. My device is rock solid and defect free.
[Nexus 7 General] Bonekeep:
Classic mistake... Listening to a vocal few instead of noting the happy silence of the overwhelming majority of satisfied customers.
[Nexus 7 General] jaycustom:
You know, I really can't say. We know of EVERY little problem the N7 has because we come to this forum. But I think Google has had and expects stuff like this, with any company.

I've had 2 Asus Android tablets, and both have problems. The N7 has very slight screen lift ( no big deal to me) and that's it. My Transformer Prime had shot GPS, crappy WiFi, and buggy software....BUT, I love what they do. The Transformer line is one of a kind beast, and the N7 is even better. First 10" Tegra 3 tablet with keyboard dock style, First 7" Tegra 3 tablet with JB...for $199 to top it off:) So I think I am willing to take chances to stay on the newest/ hottest gear...and Asus has that gear. So I'd say Google should give Asus another shot if they can fill their needs.
[Nexus 7 General] JSLEnterprises:
To be fair, screen Flickr is because of the tegra 3 (it is an issue with teg3 HTC ONE X's; screen color problems = defects from the screen manufacturers (LG, SHARP, SONY,not Asus)... Same issues in OneX/XL/S's with varying hue and color temp.

Screen edge coming up or slightly moving.... Because it's not glued in, making it easier to service... Pop off the backing and tighten the damn screws.

Some people have the slightest issues and return items blowing the issue excessively out of proportion... Some of these people are also the most vocal on forums.

Ultimately the returns/exchanges are less than 1% of total units sold and happens to every device. Let's remember when the Xoom first came out... Anyone? Lol
[Nexus 7 General] CrazyPeter:
Errm, what "defect thing"...

Or are you one of these unfortunate people that have no concept of perspective and context?
[Nexus 7 General] Nospin:
Ding ding ding.

And even for those with defects, they aren't exploding, they aren't catching on fire. They just didn't use enough glue on one single side. Not a big deal.
[Nexus 7 General] mumpfpuffel:
As a rather funny note, all the ASUS preorder hate seems irrelevant in Germany where the device isn't even available yet at all.

Sometimes, Google is way too USA. :(
[Nexus 7 General] demandarin:
i agree.

my vote is for yes. if google releases a nexus10, i bet asus will build it ;)
[Nexus 7 General] StuMcBill:
When the Galaxy Nexus was released when it connected to 2G networks the volume would automatically decrease, do you think Google have scratched Samsung off their list too?
[Nexus 7 General] lathanub:
Why not? Asus are a wonderful manufacturer.

My Nexus 7 is perfect and my Samsung Galaxy Nexus is, too. I was worried about my products after reading these forums and I was constantly having to check for defects just to make myself feel better and then I realised how silly that is. Headaches over nothing, because a small minority are incredibly vocal!

I am always behind Asus after using their motherboards/monitors and enjoying my previous TF101 tablet.
[Nexus 7 General] bpd1069:
4 months to production is unheard of in this market. They gave us something cheap, fast, and good, so I am hoping Asus becomes the 'go to' manufacture for nexus tablet's.

Looking forward to November's nexus devices, and hope Asus is putting together a bigger tablet with a keyboard (2560x1600)
[Nexus 7 General] pxlitup:
I hope this spurs Google to start using their Motorola facilities to produce devices with nothing but 'nexus' etched into the back.

These OEMs with their disgraceful reskins, false promises of support, and either shoddy or overpriced hardware. They deserve nothing more.

It would also settle the patent war.

Sounds like a software thing.
[Nexus 7 General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
I agree that the people which have problems will write the most, so it MIGHT seem a bigger issue than it really is.

But my problem is following:

- i had a TF101 tablet. Built Quality was bad, as it was creaking on the display edges.

- a friend bought a Transformer Prime - it had a display defect so he had to send it back to asus

- i got a nexus 7 - it had severe display bleeding AND creaking AND screen lift

So basically i had three instances up to now where i came into contact with Asus Android products, and ALL of them were faulty initially.

THIS leads me to believe that i'm not only a tiny tiny exception in the Asus universe of perfect products...i don't believe that these were 3 coincidences and overall the huge majority of devices is perfect. just don't have any faith in their products after these examples...
[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
I'd actually argue the opposite. ASUS, in my lengthy experience with them, has always been that brand I could rely on without sifting through mountains of user reports, unlike a few other brands out there where they would have home runs, then strikeouts. ASUS was the safe zone... the one I could buy and not think twice.

After seeing several Nexus 7's in person, I think it's easy to conclude that while there were release issues, I believe a lot of it was blown out of proportion. I have yet to see a Nexus 7 in person that had an issue, aside from one with backlight flutter that was easily exchanged for a new unit with no issues. Not to pick on Apple, but compare that to how many iPhone 4's I've seen in person (pretty much all of them) that need a case to function or the antenna goes crazy... yet those users are just fine with their devices.

Either way, I would absolutely hope ASUS is picked again. They are a solid manufacturer. I think what needs to be considered more than the already solid choice of hardware manufacturer is how Google goes about the entire process again. I mean, how quickly did ASUS kick out hundreds of thousands of Nexus 7's in the oddly short time frame that Google required? I find that remarkable that ASUS could even stand up to the task. I think instead, Google needs to kick it down a notch when the next release is scheduled. Sometimes, if you slow down, you'll get there faster.

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[Nexus 7 General] dragon1007:
Yes I think Google will use Asus agian.
[Nexus 7 General] blade30p:
I think you need to start using correct grammar, failing that full sentences at least!

Sent from My Omega powered beast, using Xparent ICS
[Nexus 7 General] GeneralCrocket:
What? This is a question where I want your opinions, not for you guys to point out my mistakes.

Also, I don't understand what you said in that last line.
[Nexus 7 General] Entropy512:
Same here.

I agree on Asus - yes the N7 had a few problems in the first batch, but the first batch of almost any device will have issues. Like one of the previous posters, so far Asus is one of those brands I can purchase from without hesitation. My old Eee netbook was rock solid, and the only problem my G51vx has had was a RAM stick that went bad after a year - but that could have happened to any manufacturer since the RAM stick was made by a third party.

Contrast to stuff like Dell's rampant thermal management design defects with the Latitude D6xx series, where pretty much any member of the series died due to poorly tightened screws or thermal failure of the hard drive on a regular basis. Where I work, they bought a TON of D6xx units, and multiple coworkers of mine have gone through 1-2 replacements a year - these are Dell's "business" machines which are supposed to be built to a higher standard! Some years Dell will have excellent quality, other years they're crap.
[Nexus 7 General] Bigjim1488:
There will always be issues. Look at HTC their one x had a bunch of issues with the first releases. I am also pretty sure there were problems with the galaxy 2 release as well.
[Nexus 7 General] GeneralCrocket:
Well, I do agree that Asus does make some solid laptops, but their quality control with these things should be better.

My friend got an Asus laptop a few months ago, it runs cool and looks sleek. Just their tablets I've heard things. But, then again, people with problems make more noise than people with perfect devices.
[Nexus 7 General] gusto5:
Asus will continue to be a viable OEM partner for google. Asus Nexus phone would be an interesting thought at a minimum.
[Nexus 7 General] mikebz5:
^^^This!

I've had mine for about a week and have experienced none of the issues described here.

My Asus Tf101 was a true beast until my son dropped it! I always wait a month or so before I jump on the newest device. I feel this really helps weed out the Qc issues...
[Nexus 7 General] MontyQ:
Asus again for sure as they are a huge company and probley costs alot less to make devices from them as they buy in huge bulk and have cheap labour.....that being said

2 8GB nexus 7s both perfect from launch pre-order

asus tf-101 light leaking

asus tf101 number 2 lol loose backplate and non working volume buttons

I want to get the TF700 looks to be ace and at this point 2 years into the tablet game for asus they seem to keep getting better.

I am very picky tho and always return my items until I get a perfect one, as for the cost of alot of these tablets I am not willing to forget about minor defects.

Other Asus products like their motherboard I swear by them fantastic, never had an issue, even had a bad bios flash once and they had no problem fixing it withoin a few days I had it back and running.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
Yeah I don't see why not. In a couple months we'll stop hearing about all the defects.
[Nexus 7 General] soonerfreak:
I would hope they stick with Asus. This combined with my galaxy nexus means should I not go with WP8 I will only get nexus devices and Samsung or Asus I will buy it.
[Nexus 7 General] Jbluna:
eh, probably not they kind of cycle through their major manufacturers

htc, samsung, now asus

and I believe motorola with the xoom was the first to get a taste ofhoneycomb? correct me if im wrong

anyones guess as to who's next or if they're go with either of the above again
[Nexus 7 General] dparrothead1:
Sure they will go with Asus......they put this thing together in 4 months and the next go around, all the bugs will be fixed. Why go through another round of problems with another company.

BTW, I have a pre order 8gb without any defects!
[Nexus 7 General] Okaay:
I've always known Asus to be a good and reputable manufacturer. Just because some tablets were defective doesn't mean they are a bad company. Think about it, the only posts that are gonna ho up as posts abut n7s that are defective. You're not gonna see a thread called 'perfect nexus' because ,most of them are perfect but the odd person that has defects will for sure make a thread
[Nexus 7 General] I Am Marino:
I wouldn't mind a Motorola made actual Nexus tablet.
[Nexus 7 General] MrPhilo:
Didn't you guys hear? They ran out of stock of Nexus 7. They initially only shipped 600,000 of them and we see around 20 people complaining in XDA forum about the build quality issue. Not all the 600,000 are going to be perfect, they just happened to be unlucky, whereas all others are just loving their nexus to bits!

My Nexus 7 is a beaut device, along with my Galaxy Nexus. I hope it's either Samsung or Asus for the next phone device. I wouldn't mind Motorola only if they threw in a similar 3300Mah battery. Just hoping the CPU is a Cortex A-15 not all this Quad Core bullcrap!
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
Frankly Asus transformer prime was the best android tablet in the market even with all its problems and no other manufacturer had a better product so Google took the right step to partner with Asus to make a nexus similarly they know Samsung make best android phones so they partner with Samsung for nexus phones.

I understand that this device has many problems which it should not have and defect rate is higher than what it should be. I had very clean record of having defect free gadgets but thanks to Asus I had a defective product first time in my life. Having said that the tablet is not as badly made as many people think. Yes I have screen separation issue which I had to fix myself but even it was not bothering me even if I don't fix it because I can't find it if I don't look for it. Thanks to this form that people came to know about this problem even before they received their devices from play store and they started to look for faults. There are two main and common problem with this device i.e. screen separation / lifting and multitouch without grounding. Only screen separation is a major fail whereas multi touch problem is a known problem with many devices. I fixed the screen problem instead of RMA so I am fine with it. To me the only problem which I wanted to be not present was having under saturated colors. For a tablet screen is very important as it is the only thing you would look at while using it and having under saturated colors would make the experience dull. It has made me appreciate my ipad 3 screen even more and made me realize that how over saturated my SGS3 screen is which I use to adore before I bought N7 :D
[Nexus 7 General] player911:
This is the first Nexus device that they literally can't keep enough stock on. Dollars look good on paper and Asus has some good venues to sell products.

I like my Galaxy Nexus but Samsung always holds the Ace for their own flagship. They release a Nexus then immediately release the next generation. Why buy a Galaxy Nexus when the SIII follows right behind it? WE but it for Google support but the average customer doesn't care about that, they just look at specs.

I love the Amoled screens but I'd be interested in another brand.
[Nexus 7 General] dc567:
ME370TG is on its way, still under google Nexus family for sure
[Nexus 7 General] osuron07:
They better

I sure hope they do, minus the loose screw, I'm loving this device for the price.
[Nexus 7 General] Tonyipad2:
Nexus 7 was designed by engineers from both Google and Asus and assembled by quanta computer the same company that assembled Playbook and kindle fire.
[Nexus 7 General] barisahmet:
No asus, please.
[Nexus 7 General] Oukiva:
Never heard about ME370TG ??

Is it a new version of the Asus Memo 370T? What are the differences?

And about Asus / defaults / screen, I talk with a guy working for after sales services at PC World in London

and he told me they have very few Nexus 7 returned.

Could it be a problem for just a specific serie in USA?
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
It appears correct because what I have seen is usually people from US are complaining more as compared to UK and Aus.
[Nexus 7 General] mandeep1803:
My device came in perfect. After 2 weeks of use, it is still perfect. I haven't had any issues whatsoever. And should Google pick Asus again? Absolutely. My gaming rig is running Asus motherboard and an Asus GTX570 DCII. Asus is much better choice than Samsung. HTC is perhaps the only other company I can think of to make something as good. In a perfect world, Nokia would have partnered with Google to punch out Nexus devices, but we do not live in a perfect world.
[Nexus 7 General] e.mote:
A more interesting Q than "which vendor next" is "which device next, and when."

Goog normally does new Nx toy for each Android rev. JB just popped, and K is probably next year, so I don't see another Nx this year.

Unlike iPhone/Pad, Goog doesn't do sequels. Every Nx thus far has been a one-off. N7 likely won't get a lil bro.

Given vestiges of multiuser code in JB, an educated guess is that next Nx will be an N10, since a 10" tab would be more "communal" and be suitable for multiuser than a smaller device, which is more "personal."

Asus would be a good candidate for N10, especially if Android as expected will continue to hoe the "value" row. Asus makes stuff cheap enough, with good enough quality. Then again, Samsung has demonstrated it can do value with its GT2 line, and it is the strongest Android vendor. Lenovo is also a good bet, and Moto is always the dark horse.

Goog may be content to keep copying Amazon, as the latter will likely intro a 10" this fall. Hard to imagine KF10 will be more than $300--possibly $250 for 8GB? Where Amazon leads, Goog will likely follow--sad state of affair, eh?--so take the upcoming Amazon move as the template for the next Goog Nx.
[Nexus 7 General] krelvinaz:
Who asked you in the first place?

Totally mute point.

I don't recall Google asking me which hardware vendor to use for any of the Nexus devices.

That is a decision they make based on whatever criteria they have but more than likely includes things like, does a mfg want to make one for them, can they work with the Google team, can they do what Google envisions for the device etc...

I can see where a mfg might not want to make the next Nexus device?? who knows, at this point who cares...

Every new launch has problems and there are always a bunch of people who did no research before buying to see if what they are buying will meet their goals and requirements... Then they b*itch and moan about how they should have done this, or should have done that, and huge threads about why they are sending it back etc...

Are there defective units... sure, bound to happen when you make thousands of unit runs... every device has them.

The silent majority however, got what they wanted/expected, have no real problems or problems that will be solved with software updates and quietly use their devices with happiness completely oblivious to the so called storm of discontent that the forums have.
[Nexus 7 General] wynand32:
Need I point out the irony?
[Nexus 7 General] BostonDan2:
I don't think it matters whether they use Asus or Samsung. I've been a fan of Asus motherboards and laptops, but the quality on their tablets needs quite a bit improvement based on my experience with the Asus Transformer Prime and forum posts from users that experienced similar problems and terrible support.

I thought Samsung had better quality, until I read an article about recent exhibits disclosed in the Samsung/Apple case. Apple presented documents that showed a 25% return rate for Samsung Galaxy tablets, arguing that customers were returning them because they were confusing Galaxy Tablets for the iPad. Samsung countered stating that the vast majority were not returning their product because it was being confused with the iPad, but that they were returned due to manufacturing defects and quality issues. Let me say that again, Samsung countered that most of the 25% return rate for their tablets is manufacturing defects and quality issues. Maybe this is a good legal strategy to defend themselves against Apple, but a near 25% return rate for quality and manufacturing issues doesn't make me want to rush out and buy their product.
[Nexus 7 General] AuxiliaryPie:
I just hope nobody is settling with their defects. Screens should not flicker, pixels shouldnt be dead and bezels shouldnt squish. return it until you get a good one.

I would love a Moto made tablet. They always use the best materials in their high end devices, you cannot argue that. Aluminum, stainless steel, kevlar, gorilla glass... as long as moto doesnt touch the software, its a win
[Nexus 7 General] CrazyPeter:
Nexus10 will be Asus too..

Pretty sure I saw such a thing in the pre production runs at asustek last month.

Can't say much more than that without getting into trouble (not that I signed any NDA, I'm just observant when on site)