yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
To be clear, bootloader unlock is needed to install any custom recovery, including TWRP.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] htcvarona:
Thank you guys :D

Sent from my HTC One X
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CompuTechnoPro™:
Is there any way to customize a stock kernel (Like ZSLPG or something) to have CPU undervolting capabilities or, even BLN ???

Because, I like the performance & stability of the stock kernel too much but, the battery gets used up fast.. So, CPU UV would decrease battery consumption.. I love BLN too...

Any solution or tweaks ??? :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stopro:
Just install syiah kernel that give u everything wot u want even more
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
Well i started a thread about how we need source and everyones favorite mod sgt.slaughter came in and broke up the keyboard warrior fest and shed some light on us and told us to all start asking about source using the example of the folks in the 3d forums who teamed up to get a bootloader unlock which while its kinda half assed, at least they did something.

Anyway lets get to the point. Below there is links to their email, twitter, facebook, etc and you guys message them and post what you said below and i will add it to the op here so others can use that message.

also, as sgt.slaughter said, DONT ASK ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN SOURCE. We need to stick to the point here. Don't threaten them or rage at them.

Spread this to other HTC Device forums that aren't getting source if you know of any, the more people we get to the better.

Mods i will update this as often as possible if people actually follow it so perhaps a temp sticky?

Also don't flood this with a bunch of "I won't buy HTC again" talk. It will just make this harder.

Petition Link

Link: http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-htc-needs-to-speed-up-kernel-source-releases?share_id=sLjvObpqne

Personal Contacts [thanks sgt.slaughter]

Mark_Baker@htc.com; Senior Director Enterprise Business Unit Americas

Cher_Wang@htc.com; Chairman

John_Wang@htc.com; Chief Marketing Officer, HTC Corporation

Keith_Nowak@htc.com; Senior Public Relations Manager at HTC 425-679-5328

Fred_Liu@htc.com; COO of HTC

HT_Cho@htc.com; Board Member of HTC

Peter_Chou@htc.com; CEO

Lotus_Chan@htc.com; VP HTC

Horace_Luke@htc.com; Chief Innovation Officer

Brent Groome, Chief Executive-Customer Operations, at 843-369-8393 or brent.groome@htcinc.net

To email all of them at once, copy and paste this:

Mark_Baker@htc.com;Cher_Wang@htc.com;John_Wang@htc.com;Keith_Nowak@htc.com;Fred_Liu@htc.com;HT_Cho@htc.com;Peter_Chou@htc.com;Lotus_Chan@htc.com;Horace_Luke@htc.com

HTC

Twitter: https://twitter.com/htc

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/HTC

Email: http://www.htc.com/us/support/email-support

HTCDEV

Twitter: https://twitter.com/htcdev

Facebook: Don't think they have one

Email: http://www.htcdev.com/contact

HTC USA

Twitter: https://twitter.com/HTCUSA

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/htcusa

Updates:

Today 8/9/12 i received an email back from HTC giving me the same B.S. they give everyone about the 90 days. Heres the email.

Quotes from you guys:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
In order to get the sweeping changes we want (to get source released as soon as device is dropped like samsung does) we will need more than our EVO 4G LTE users.

We need all HTC users behind this. Anyway we can get this up on their sections of the forum as well?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
true, perhaps submit this to the xda portal and then maybe expand to other sites such as engadget? i already started spreading it to themikmik but only in the evo lte section so far. add me on google talk and we will collaborate. ill send my email via pm
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
I posted a section on android forums where I am a guide. I'll spread the word there.

I'll hit you up tomorrow
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
ive sent messages to rootzwiki, themikmik, and xda portal to see if they will write about this and help spread the word. for now im going to bed since its 2a.m. :eek:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
I emailed AP, lets see.

Hopefully this catches on when everyone sees this thread tomorrow.

This needs to be done/
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] argedion:
I will try to get this done this afternoon when I come home from work.

I passed the word on to android central.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
nice job!

need to toss in examples of how HTC is failing compared to the other manufacturers in terms of time they release source...cite Samsung and Motorola and time of OTA released to devices, and then time they released their source code...Show HTC that they are the ONLY one's playing this 90day rule bs crap and its hurting the development community greatly, in turn causing people to leave...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] TaintedByte:
I will be sending emails to the aforementioned news sources as well as my tech friends. It really is a shame companies like HTC can get away with violating the GPL like this. If only we could convince a person with copyright on part of the Linux kernel to join our ranks we could win overnight :p

Oh in addition to the above email I send them I also found another one that was between a head dev of red hat Linux, I'll see if I can dig it up.

EDIT: Found it, post by Matthew Garrett, developer of red hat linux posted the next couple of entries. They are very interesting reads about the entire situation:

HTC is Willfully Violating the GPL by Matthew Garrett:

These two entries are also by Matthew Garrett but they're more a generalized point of view about GPL violations in general and why it's an incentive to do so:

The economic incentive to violate the GPL

The ongoing fight against GPL enforcement

Also let me make this clear (because I've seen people bring this up before): people here aren't complaining that without source we can't do anything or that our devs REQUIRE it. The point is that the Linux kernel is licensed under the GPL and that our devs SHOULDN'T NEED to work without it. It's free open sourced code. We don't care for the "but HTC has hundreds of phones to support please give them time!@!" argument either. The GPL is pretty clear, you can use anything licensed under it but if you release a commercial product with it, source MUST be released and source code is easier to distribute than the binary they built using it. It's a non-issue for them.

Sorry for the massive edit. I just love open source software and the advantages it provides for technology and by proxy -- society. I mean, open source is literally everywhere and I can't stand companies with big bucks being able to "buy" their way out of what open source stands for. If you use something licensed under the GPL you MUST provide source. You don't have a day, you don't have a week. You have to either release it alongside the binary or provide it upon request.

I'm done :P

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] funcrusher:
Glad to wake up and see this thread!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] premo15:
Thanks for getting this going. But it may be difficult without a direct line to one of the higher-ups. It's taken HTC 3 weeks (and counting) to tell me if the EVO's wifi radio can support channel bonding and short guard intervals on the 5ghz band...which I assumed would be an easy, straight forward question. So that doesn't bode well for a hefty request such as this. Nonetheless, I will join you.

Sent from my EVO LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DB13:
Give me source or give me death!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] premo15:
Getting ready to send my message out to HTC, how's the tone? Any critiques?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fachadick:
My 2 cent review? Leave out the first paragraph entirely and just send the second. The tone is good, and it says everything you want to say while still being quick and to the point.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Na they need to hear it from customers that they recognize that HTC's competitors are releasing their source code much earlier. leave that stuff in there...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fachadick:
Fair enough, but do you really think that they don't already know that the other guys are releasing their source code earlier? I think that first paragraph creates a "Samsung is better than you guys" tone that will unnecessarily put them on the defensive in a marketing and pr sense. It will make them address the email as if it's an htc vs samsung scenario, instead of keeping the focus on releasing source earlier and following gpl guidelines. My $0.02 anyway.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
If I recall thats how we took the bootloader unlock to them too...Samsung allows unlocking, and HTC used to not be encrypted at least....then they encrypted and all hell broke loose, and their facebook was completely blowing up for weeks straight....so much that they couldnt' manage all the negative posts on there and eventually released a comment on it and changed their ways...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
working on starting a petition now. will update the op with it shortly.

EDIT: still working on it. i set one up but i think it has to be approved first before being put on their site. will update as soon as possible
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
got that covered, check the op. has direct contacts now
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
My canned response from HTC DEV

:Thank you for contacting HTC regarding Kernel Source code. I know that this code is important to the development community and I will be happy to assist you with the correct information regarding this.

HTC will release source code in accordance with any applicable open source license terms, i.e. GPL v2.0. HTC will typically publish on http://developer.htc.com or htcdev.com the Kernel open source code for recently released devices as soon as possible. HTC will normally publish this within 90 to 120 days. This time frame is within the requirements of the open source community. Other source codes, which are not required to be disclosed by the open source license terms, unfortunately cannot be disclosed by HTC as they may be proprietary to HTC or its licensor.

I hope you enjoy the rest of your week
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
I got that also
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
need to push the facebook and spread the word...all people with HTC devices should be jumping on the train like last time with the locked bootloader issue...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
I also Emailed all the execs in the OP
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Genjinaro:
Yeah, it needs some socially pushed drive behind it.

I was hoping with HTC's new wave of phones, the old issues with the delayed source code releases would be a memory.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] diestarbucks:
Hopefully with their poor earning reports the last year or so they will be more inclined to listen.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] imex99:
Sent them messages on twitter
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] stiles72:
Has anyone tried registered snail mail request with return postage and some form of proof of ownership? IIRC the only required form of source for the gpl 2 is phisical media. This way you could get both the FSF and the postmaster involved (if you use a USPS money order) if HTC fails to comply.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
I emailed FSF in March of this year and the response I got from them was along the lines of them saying the following:

www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhoHasThePower is where they suggested to look for more information too....

So with that said it would take one of the copyright holders to take action on HTC to release source their files HTC is using under GPLv2...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] splink7007:
Lol I left a post on their facebook page and within minutes it was removed!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
That's what they do. We all have to do it at once and do multiple posts each. We need a set time and a whole lot of people to commit in order for it to work. Also we need popular sites to back us up such as engadget and the portal here on xda to spread this EVERYWHERE. I sent request to themikmik xda and rootzwiki and haven't heard back from any of them yet...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
just keep at it, no need to wait....ppl will slowly add in and join
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
still trying to set up the petition. i emailed the people of the site that i set it up on, groubal, and they said they are having some problems with their server atm and will be fixed soon.

p.s. they reply really fast haha didn't expect to hear back from them within 5 min of an email :P
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] raiderep:
I would just like to suggest you not have a negative approach such as teaming up against anyone. HTC is not the enemy and I don't think being negative is a good place to start. I hope this goes somewhere, don't get me wrong please.

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
Spreading this to other HTC owners needs to be priority 1 at this point. Numbers are going to win this.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
Posted at the bottom of the op what i have been sending htc on their facebook walls. feel free to make use of it if you want :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] t3rmin:
Suggestion: Put a semicolon delimited list of email addresses in the OP. That way people can copy and paste into their email client easier.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
not quite sure what your trying to get me to change. example please so i know what to do? haha

wasn't trying for negativity haha i altered the thread name so maybe it sounds less angry? haha
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] raiderep:
Its all good, just trying to help. I know we can get passionate about these devices. Thanked you for changing the wording in op title :thumbup:

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] premo15:
I think this is what he's looking for:

Mark_Baker@htc.com;Cher_Wang@htc.com;John_Wang@htc.com;Keith_Nowak@htc.com;Fred_Liu@htc.com;HT_Cho@htc.com;Peter_Chou@htc.com;Lotus_Chan@htc.com;Horace_Luke@htc.com;brent.groome@htcinc.net

One string that can be copied and pasted into the To: list in an email client.

Sent my message out, still waiting to hear back...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
OHHHHHH ok op will be updated shortly
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] p2cactus:
Agree that we need other HTC owners to step up. Evo LTE isn't a big enough audience to get their attention. Any way to get the global community involved? I assume this is housing them too.

Sent from my EVO. MeanROM FTW!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] P.Mobile:
i hit up there fb.. i sent email.. and i hit up there twitter :highfive: sent the petition to 15 of my peeps on fb.. once they see its for mye they will all sign it for sure!!!!!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
we need to start posting in all of the htc device forums. everyone pick an htc device and post a link to this and a brief description in the general section. its hard for one man to do this all with no help haha
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] durandetto:
I posted a link in the one s, both one x and og EVO general forum.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] XNine:
One X owner here. And I'm on this like a rabid turkey on a hen house!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
so far i have gotten to the

evo 3d

rezound

sensation

evo 4g

thunderbolt

inspire 4g

incredible s

sensation XL

amaze 4g

vivid

one v

and still going down the list
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
here is what i have been posting around on the various htc device forums

Title:

[PETITION LIVE][URGENT]Everyone join the HTC source movement!

Contents:

We are starting a movement toward HTC to get them to release their source code on a more timely basis such as samsung. We need as many people as we can get to do this with us because they won't listen if only users of 1 devices complains. i know others devices have been held up by htc so we are reaching out to (or at least trying to) all of the htc device forums we can in order to spread the word and get everyone involved. please take a look at the link below as it has all of the info regarding this. p.s. we are working on getting an online petition but the site we are trying to use is having server problems.

link: "post the link to this threads 1st page"

PETITON: "link to petition. i would include it but copying it causes errors"
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
Just posted on fb..sure they will pull it asap
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] XNine:
I hit up twitter, facebook, and their emails. Let's hope that we all bring something good from this :) GO TEAM HTC SOURCE!

Edit: Funny that... all of their emails came back as undeliverable....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Noctourniquet:
I have a HTC One V (CDMA) running MIUI and I'm behind you all the way. Being stuck on the stock kernel is a drag when the GSM variant of the One V has had it's kernel source released.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
I'm glad others are catching on. United we stand.

Make sure people aren't just signing the petition. Emailing them and hitting them up on social media is just as important.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
oh jeez hahaha i get an email every time someone signs it since i started it lol im hoping to get a solid 10,000 email in the coming days/weeks :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
what do you guys think is a good number to set the signature goal to? i can't decide haha
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rocklee99:
Signed, hope we get more than 20 people O.o
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SafirSwe:
Signed the petition and e-mailed the execs. Hoping for the best!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] joshuaw84:
Tweeted to s4gru and deck the two people i follow and told them to pass on the thread 9 re-tweets so far. Not much but its a start.

sent from my LTEvo
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
Its also 2a.m. i expect tomorrow this is going to go HUGE. p.s. what is your twitter so i can also retweet it?

or ill just look for the tweet. either way.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] joshuaw84:
@casperw84 first tweet is to this thread second tweet is to the petition. Also just signed

sent from my LTEvo
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
ok cool. im @PhxkinMassacre

anyway, all tho i would love to stay up all night and keep sharing this, ive been up since 7a.m. and it is now 2.a.m. and i believe it is time for a nap ;) haha anyone still up, KEEP SHARING!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MagicalSandwich:
I would sign but the site doesnt want to load for me. I'll keep trying though
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
Yup, and when you ask Qualcomm dev they say they only deal with apps, and to check with htc. Round robin.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kf2m:
Hey Sarge, seems that HTC is getting all butthurt, and taken to deleting comments they don't like on FB. Sorry but this will be the last HTC phone I'll own..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
Sent various emails to HTC and fb and signed petition..hopefully we get some.action
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fachadick:
Old, but worth a read - from Harald Welte's blog;

And this, also from his blog, but more recent;

I've emailed Harald Welt regarding all of this - will update if/when I get a reply.

edit - for those who don't know, Harald Welt is the founder of gpl-violations.org.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] premo15:
Me too, verbatim... Looks like that script is getting a good workout

Sent from my EVO LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
The change.org petition needs a lot of work. I saw the link floating around so I figured I would give it a read, and it's rough. There are grammatical errors in spots and it isn't very professional. If you want something like this to take off, you have to make sure that you're professional about it; you have to look good. Calling what HTC is doing "BS" while petitioning isn't going to help your cause.

Just my thoughts, as I would love to see this succeed.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
I agree with this as well
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
Yeah haha wrote this is like a.m. if you find anything else in there i should change send me a pm
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
I also emailed harald welt about this.

p.s. keep sharing guys! we are at 181 sigs so far! we are going to need a lot more haha
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] drlzanej:
:good::good::good::good::good::cool:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
I have completely reworked the thread and the petition to reflect a more professional approach. It may be a long read but i believe this is much better. please check it out and tell me what you guys think.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DB13:
This is what i just got from HTC -__-
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
I wrote

I am a fan of HTC hardware, and have owned almost exclusively HTC devices for years. And I have persuaded many others to buy HTC. But I'm about to change all that. I've become to frustrated will htcs unacceptable slowness at releasing source. I enjoy android for the open source dev community, but HTCs slowness at releasing source stymies the enjoyment of using Android.Samsungis where all the development is headed, as they support the dev community by releasing source promptly, and where the dev community goes, I will go.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
It's such a shame that I feel forced to switch from my favorite brand of device . Can't even understand why they would take this stance esp when they are not in a position to lose any customer base..even us
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
tempted* not forced haha

but you would think that after taking such huge hits in the market and losing all of this money that they would do as much as possible to please their buyers o.0 but hey, what do i know about sustaining a business.

Edit: BTW can we get some people around here to start making their sig similar to mine, or throwing a link in there with link to the thread/petition? that way whatever you post people have to see it haha
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] luigi311:
Signed :D. Where u the only on irc laughing at my super fast internet XD
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Ziedrich610:
Signed, sealed and delivered. Here is to progress! :fingers-crossed:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
seriously you probably could have made the rom yourself faster then that was downloading hahaha
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] luigi311:
Lmfao it was u XD dude u should see how long it takes to download sense Roms XD I can't even use superlte svn thing becuz it just stops downloading out of nowhere and if that happens u have to delete everything and start fresh XD
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tgamble160:
Although I have already traded in my amaze for the s3 I signed and you all have my full support. Good luck I hope htc releases everything very soon.

sent via galaxy s3 on jelly bean
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mobius1484:
I really hope HTC will take us seriously and not just brush us aside. This is my first HTC phone. I was totally spoiled by the development on my old LG Optimus S. (Not at all knocking the Devs here).
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mbaseball3:
The wife has the s3. And I envy her ability to actually multitask. Sprints 2g network doesn't drop every minute and a half either. My phone may be prettier but least she can get the ish done :(

Sent from my EVO LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
328 sigs guys! I'd say this is starting off pretty good so far :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AndroidGraphix:
This is why I've ditched htc and no longer develop skins or themes for their devices. I've moved officially to the galaxy s3 and couldn't be happier. Good luck with your efforts.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] durandetto:
I've been replying to all of their posts on facebook and Twitter with a comment about source code, still havent gotten any replies.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Chirpout:
Signed!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Put the link to the actual petition in your signature and link the xda thread on the petition. That way its only 1 click to get to the signature which is more important now and getting ppl to sign...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] averygagaanroid:
Just make a facebook/ Google plus/ twitter account named "Boycott HTC" and spread it around. That way we dont have to worry about them removing the comments and if we can get those accounts to trend then HTC can't ignore us anymore. The key here is to get publicity. Get vocal.