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[HTC EVO 3D] plaidcounty:
Hmm. Maybe it was ICS aokp I remember them working in. Could be. Or I could be jumbling my memories between flashing too many ROMs!
[HTC EVO 3D] lowridincrew,:
Well, anybody going to take over the CDMA version?
[HTC EVO 3D] SinisterChedda:
there's already other cm10 and aokp ROMs out without camera. Hopefully agraben is nice enough to share camera fixes with these developers since we got screwed again. //hope and pray. No emotionicon for praying but would be cool. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Cwebb03:
I wish I could use it :/
[HTC EVO 3D] Jackietreehorn:
Bummer to hear about the CDMA takedown and such.

I wish it wasn't that way, but after reading your comment (and reading back a bit), I understand why you're pulling it. Totally your choice, just wanted to throw out a thanks for all the work you're doing/have done Agrabren, even if it isn't my device that's reaping the benefits.
[HTC EVO 3D] SinisterChedda:
I used the setprop persist.sys.usb.config.mass_storage command and got USB working but now USB debugging is not working after reboot. Any way to fix this?
[HTC EVO 3D] johnnyboi1994:
I can upload .2 CDMA if anyone wants it .

Has random reboots and 4g drops and I did pa
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkRazorZ:
I have it uploaded if anybody wants it, don't know if I'm allowed to post it here.
[HTC EVO 3D] johnnyboi1994:
Lol beat me to the punch. Just link it via pm to those that want it
[HTC EVO 3D] cityeyes:
It has a few bugs as it is and all of the fixes that he's pushing out tomorrow aren't going to be released for CDMA, so we're pretty much dead in the water as camera on our phones go unless something comes up.

At this point, we can only hope that he has a change of heart or that he shares his secret build with someone like Mazda to integrate the changes into TeamDirt AOKP. Third possibility is that Mazda figures it out himself, but getting the solution from Agraben couldn't hurt.
[HTC EVO 3D] yoitspnut:
I was able to pick up 0.2 CDMA build before it was taken down and man was I happy...until I found out he was no longer building for CDMA...that build felt like a tease ..I am however grateful for all the work agrabren put out for us..Hoping somebody picks up development :(
[HTC EVO 3D] Hedied4me:
Really is a bummer not to see nemore of this goodness.
[HTC EVO 3D] muziling:
voice search not work?
[HTC EVO 3D] SinisterChedda:
Works for me. Try a full wipe.
[HTC EVO 3D] VictoriousShooter:
You know, I do find it funny when someone at the gsm forum asked about cdma, and how agrabren said to take it to the appropriate thread, even though there isnt a cdma thread.

And its kind of uncalled for when he deleted the cdma builds. If he doesn't want to build for cdma anymore, fine. But at least keep the builds up....
[HTC EVO 3D] agrabren:
I was told to remove it...
[HTC EVO 3D] greeg32:
I think this is the appropriate thread he was referring to
[HTC EVO 3D] VictoriousShooter:
Oh, then my mistake sir, who told you remove them?
[HTC EVO 3D] cityeyes:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm gonna give a really quick/simplified rundown of the situation as I know it.

From what I've seen, a certain guy who clashed with Agraben in the past has a decent following. Unfortunately, a large portion of that following are rabid fans who are looking to start crap and take sides rather than encourage development as a whole.

Apparently, Agraben and this guy had a lot of disputes in the past, resulting in a GPL takedowns for both sides. Now, even though Agraben's builds are 100% legit (and they could have been since the start, for all I know, I never followed the original struggle), the other dude's rabid followers *still* rush in to flood XDA with GPL violations every time Agraben releases a CDMA build on XDA (for some stupid reason they only concentrate on CDMA - makes very little sense since the "other guy" is also involved in creating GSM stuff).

So, from what I understand, Agraben was asked to remove his builds from anything linking to XDA by the devs pending investigation (at least that's what I assume went down). Rather than deal with the crap in the future, he simply scrapped CDMA builds.

Obviously I could have my story wrong, but this is what I've gleaned from various talk on the forums.

Maybe he'll post them elsewhere at some point? I dunno. But it seems as if he's just sick of dealing with the crap and, honestly, it feels like the fans of the "other guy" are just looking to stir crap for the sake of stirring crap. I don't know why else they'd choose to gimp their own community with no good alternative available.
[HTC EVO 3D] johnnyboi1994:
Only problem I have ATM is 4g dropping every 10-30 mins and ill have to reboot , other than that I'm happy. Just tried switching to cm10 and not paranoid android. Hope that helps
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
If this is true, I'm very disappointed in the members causing this. I do like the other kernel and agraben's work, but I don't support the antics I've seen from both followings and I know there's a lot of drama. I am a cdma user and dream of having a fully functional cm10 build but all of this crap going on is really discouraging. Can we please just call a truce or something for the sake of continuing development of this phone? Many of the devs we once had have moved on. This kind of drama will leave this phone abandoned and I have too long to wait before I too can leave this phone behind.
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkRazorZ:
Maybe move to another forum for CDMA builds..? Post it via Twitter or something? I dunno. I'm really disappointed by all of this trolling and drama. Your work is too good to let the drama ruin it for everyone.

I've been using 0.2.0 since it was released and it's holding up nicely. Hope to see some updates in the future, but that seems unlikely.
[HTC EVO 3D] muziling:
gsm had updated, we don't
[HTC EVO 3D] daviderickson:
But again, if GPL takedowns are what is preventing Agrabren from posting CDMA builds, the simple solution is to post the ROM without a kernel binary, post the kernel source code, with instructions to build the kernel. This hasn't been done, so the conclusion is that there is some other reason he is not posting them.
[HTC EVO 3D] agrabren:
Because that's a real pain in the butthurt to make. The rom builds against kernel headers and packages automatically. Effort > Return.
[HTC EVO 3D] daviderickson:
But you are building the ROM not us, so the ROM's dependency on kernel headers shouldn't affect you or us - and you just strip the kernel at the end. Then we build the kernel. Right?
[HTC EVO 3D] agrabren:
And then packaged into the boot image. It's the stripping part. And I highly doubt it'd stop the GPL trolling. I don't even have a kernel report locally. I build straight from github. How is that not guaranteed posted. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] daviderickson:
Stripping should be straightforward, just write zero's to the file at the kernel's offset range.

And if you aren't publishing a binary then there isn't even the possibility that the GPL was violated.
[HTC EVO 3D] agrabren:
The kernel headers are GPL. They'll say I'm not posting the correct ones. Don't worry, the ROM isn't dead exactly. Just less linked from here while I get details straightened out.
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkRazorZ:
If xda is the only blockade, have you considered themikimik or other android development forums for CDMA builds? They all seem more lenient when it comes to GPL trolling. Just throwing out suggestions because I would love to see more of your work... I can understand if it's too much to do, though.
[HTC EVO 3D] Neogenx:
Thank you again for everything!
[HTC EVO 3D] scottspa74:
Agrabren, if I remember right, aren't you the one who first found the exploit for the 3d? I seem to recall posts from you when it first came talking about throwing a grenade at the kernel and sifting thru the wreckage.

I can't imagine people giving you grief about GPL.

Good luck with the project. As stated, maybe try mikmik.

from my flying AOKP'd Evo LTE and xda premium
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkRazorZ:
Trolls gonna troll even if it means ruining things for everyone else.
[HTC EVO 3D] johnnyboi1994:
kinda sad this is happening

but atleast we have gangnam style. i mean, how often, do a lot of you pull out your phone and says "im gonna take pictures now", even still

that's what dual booting is for. camera isn't _that_ important. just let our cdma devs do their thing.
[HTC EVO 3D] EvilNinjakat:
Daily. I have a little girl and a boyfriend overseas. If I'm not snapping pic of myself and/or kiddo, I'm taking pics of random stuff cuz that's how we try n stay close. For some people its a deal breaker.
[HTC EVO 3D] plaidcounty:
Honestly I take pics with my phone quite a bit. And moments don't wait for a boot slot to boot up.

I know I won't be using any jb ROM anymore without camera as a daily. I'll still test them and contribute to bug reports a support though.

Everyone's different though. Each of us have their own reasons for why we use certain ROMs. Camera wasn't a deal breaker on jb for me until it was available. From now on it is. No worries though. I will still let our devs do what they do.
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
I couldn't give up the camera either... I'm a photographer, so that feature is important to me - not that this is my primary camera. But I'm glad cdma development isn't dead yet. I hope it works out.
[HTC EVO 3D] daviderickson:
For anyone that has kids, they probably pull it out a lot :)
[HTC EVO 3D] plaidcounty:
There's a joke here just waiting to come out! I love this comment! ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Not trying to be argumentative, but I'm sincerely interested in how you both wound up with the Evo 3D. I really don't mind running Sense ROM's to have everything working on this phone, but if my priority was a working camera (and/or 4G) with an AOSP ROM my current phone would probably be a Galaxy or Nexus model. I like to try out the AOSP ROM's just to see where Android is headed, but don't expect to use them as a daily driver on the Evo 3D when Sense is such a big part of HTC's direction.

Have things changed that much since you bought the Evo 3D, either in your requirements or expectations for your daily driver? I'm just trying to understand why Evo 3D users are looking for an AOSP ROM as a daily driver.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] cityeyes:
I've seen so many people with problems dual-booting. I wouldn't want to deal with that for camera.

Also, yes, camera is important to me (and I assume many others). If I don't have the time to get my dedicated camera, I don't have the time to pull up another rom to snap a photo. I use my cell phone camera for spontaneous moments that don't last long.

True, Gangnam is a great alternative and I was on it for quite a while time, but the bugs in DT 0.2.0 are totally worth putting up with for the ability to take photos for me personally.

Because sense is needlessly bloated and not nearly as pretty as AOSP? I picked up the Evo 3D because it was the most powerful option hardware-wise on my carrier at the time. Other options were both lacking and at the end of their update cycle.
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkRazorZ:
I'm on a really crappy carrier (MetroPCS) but it's extremely cheap, so the Evo 3D seemed great. Very decent hardware at a low price. I love AOSP, too, though. I really don't like Sense. My carrier doesn't support 4G on the E3D and I don't care too much about the 3D camera/screen. I do use my 2D camera a lot for random things, so it was important to me.

There aren't many options for phones unless I switch carriers, which I'm not going to do for several months. Even though CM10 is a bit buggy, I still prefer it over Sense. IMO, all phones should run stock and give you the option of using a manufacturer's UI.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
I believe the Galaxy SII (AKA Epic 4G Touch) was released before the Evo 3D, or about the same time for Sprint users. Perhaps the Evo 3D features and build quality of the HTC phones were seductive at the time, but priorites may have changed for the users that are now seeking AOSP daily drivers?

Apparently the Epic Touch 4G (SGS II) is also available for MetroPCS, but I know that sounds like a "Monday morning quarterback". :)

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] cityeyes:
They released close together, but the Evo 3D came first. Evo 3D was at the end of June, Galaxy S2 was mid-July.

Although I could have waited a few weeks to get the Galaxy, at that point I was much more loyal to HTC hardware - took a gamble on it because I had luck with my Mytouch 3G and assumed that the talented devs here would figure out AOSP (and they have, for the most part.)

Anyway, isn't the Galaxy S2 built on Touchwiz? Is it easier to port AOSP to a Touchwiz device than it is to port it to a Sense device?
[HTC EVO 3D] plaidcounty:
Honestly I was new to smart phones. I knew I didn't want an iPhone and my brother-in-law works for sprint and got us a good deal on smart phones. The Evo 3d was the flagship at the time. When I got it I realised I couldn't stand sense and I have always appreciated the Linux os and I like simplicity and pureness. Aosp is good for that. Sense annoys me. Even with custom launchers like apex and nova I just can't stand the backbone system behind sense. My next phone will hopefully be a nexus phone.

To sum it up... first smart phone, can't stand sense, nexus next time...
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
I totally understand your situation. Mine was similar, but I'm probably happier with the Evo 3D since I don't mind Sense.

Based on the MIUI and CyanogenMod forums, the Samsung Galaxy series seems to get more official ports of both those AOSP based ROM's. Part of that may be the larger international market share for Samsung, but my understanding is that the hardware is much closer to what AOSP expects than the HTC phones, which is no surprise given that Samsung has been making the Nexus phones for Google. Now that LG, HTC and probably Motorola (since the mobile division is now owned by Google) are going to be making Nexus phones, that could change in the future.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] SinisterChedda:
I agree. This is my exact story too. I got 3d for hardware. Dual core.
[HTC EVO 3D] EvilNinjakat:
I got my EVO 3d as a replacement from assurion for my EVO 4g when I cracked the screen. Im new to flashing and rooting and the like but I was a fan of HTCs touch pro so I thought I'd try the 4g.

Im due for an upgrade in a few months but I don't want a Samsung phone. HTC builds good solid phones. Samsung has great specs in a crappy plastic case. Every Samsung I've had (3) was very buggy and temperamental.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Maybe the HTC Nexus will be the best of all worlds. :)

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] muziling:
evo 3d cdma is dead, no JB update anymore , android 4.2 will out in several months.
[HTC EVO 3D] OzPrime:
This. At the time of my upgrade, I had a choice between the 3D, Photon 4G and GSII (Epic Touch). The 3D was the best bang for the buck at the time and the other 2 phones were double the price for only a minor h/w upgrade. Honestly, I was fine with Sense until ICS (and JB by extension) came out and gave stock Android something it had been missing IMO: it's own identity and personality.
[HTC EVO 3D] raptoro07:
I'm on 0.2 with mikes kernel and I'm missing one of the lock screen shortcuts. Its the one between left and up. No matter what I change it to nothing appears on the actual lock screen. Anyone else have this?
[HTC EVO 3D] CiDhed:
The Evo3d still crushes the S2 and the Samsung Nexus phones in terms of hardware. It is my first sense phone and I've been running aosp on it off and on since cm7 was released. I even waited to buy it until they released s-off in the hopes that aosp support would be close to what it had been on the evo4g.

To sum it up. Sense looks like trash compared to aosp. Aosp versions of browser, calc, messaging, camera and just about everything else look way better.

Here's hoping for another HTC Nexus. It's long overdue.
[HTC EVO 3D] VictoriousShooter:
...I still think its stupid to buy an HTC phone and hate sense...
[HTC EVO 3D] troyboytn:
I like my 3d as well but to say that the 3d hardware crushes that of the GS2 or the GNexus is BEYOND ludicrous! lol I'm no Samsung fanboy but facts are facts....if anything, the S2 and 3d are on a near level existence. Neither have the specs to "cruch" the other. This is fact, not opinion.

As for Sence "looking like trash", not true in mine or thousands of other peoples opinions. I feel quite the contrary.....Vanilla Android looks bland and completely unpolished. Hell, even the Touchwiz version on the GS2 looks better.

Bottom line, we all have our opinions and choice is what makes Android great.
[HTC EVO 3D] cityeyes:
Problem with design around here is a lot of people love needlessly flashy stuff. They think a neon-colored rom with grungy text is "awesome" and prefer boot screen animations that look like animated gifs from the 90s. Flashy stuff does not equal good design.

AOSP is minimalist, sure, but it's pretty and I have no idea what you mean by unpolished. It's streamlined, slick, and not-at-all bloaty. It feels completely finished and, from my experience, it uses features integrated into Android more readily and fully than Sense does.

I wouldn't go as far as saying that Sense looks like trash, but it's slower, less intuitive, and much less pretty design-wise in my opinion. The newer iterations really did a decent amount to fix that, but it's still not perfect.
[HTC EVO 3D] plaidcounty:
Couldn't have said it better myself! My phone does not need a grill and Mr. T chains!
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Plus, sense is limited in how much it can be tinkered with under the hood. Proprietary stuff, ya know.

We're all here because we like to tinker.

d3rpalicious.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Sorry, I didn't mean to start a Sense vs. AOSP debate when I asked people why they wanted AOSP ROM's as daily drivers on the Evo 3D. As has been stated a couple of times, it is a matter of personal taste and I didn't intend to challenge anyone's preference, just better understand how someone that prefers AOSP over Sense winds up with an Evo 3D.

I think we can discuss the Pros and Cons of Sense versus AOSP in a civil manner, but it probably doesn't belong in this thread. My original post was definitely off topic, but it was quiet last night and I didn't think the discussion would continue for so long.

I've started another thread in this forum to discuss Sense vs. AOSP perspectives, but please keep it civil or I'm sure the mods will close it like they did the ROM preference threads.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] Cwebb03:
Holy mother of God does this make my 3vo so much more epic. It's the fastest I've ever seen it, and I haven't had a since reboot. The only problem is the lack of music :/
[HTC EVO 3D] plaidcounty:
There's a problem with Apollo in the 0.2.0 build but I use Google play music app. Works fine with all music on SD card for me. Others have had success with other music apps as well.
[HTC EVO 3D] eboogie33:
Me personally I love sense . But I think we all love the versatility of android even more. Thats what attracted me to android in the first place. Hell, if possible i wouldn't mind fully functional aosp daliy driver ,web os daliy driver , windows phone 7,8 daliy driver ... got alittle carried away lol. Basically what im trying to say is if you love android how could you not desire this ?
[HTC EVO 3D] Lothaen:
Hm. Why is the devs thread closed atm? Couldn't work out from the last page of posts...
[HTC EVO 3D] EGOvoruhk:
Development stopping again in: 3, 2...
[HTC EVO 3D] agrabren:
I didn't lock it... So I'd assume, yes. They're blocking all DT development.
[HTC EVO 3D] Lothaen:
And its open again... :-s
[HTC EVO 3D] agrabren:
Nvm, it's to deal with the trolling. Dev is continuing.
[HTC EVO 3D] cityeyes:
I'm sure you hear it a million times, but sorry you have to deal with so much BS to get your rom out to everyone. You're a crazy talented dev and it's a shame everyone just can't get along.
[HTC EVO 3D] EM|NEM:
people just cant keep their opinions to themselves :|

in that case i'd like to state that you sir are the best thing that happened to the Evo 3D

most of us really appreciate all the hard work you do for this community
[HTC EVO 3D] rigmah:
agrebren - did you say you would make CDMA version available again, once things settle down?
[HTC EVO 3D] NineInchNails:
My post was not to troll. Was to point out the fact you lied about.
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
Imagine every rom/kernel/app on XDA having hidden malicious code. other devs don't do it, so why is there to be an exception?

I understand protecting ones hard work, but it should be stated, to stop people wasting their time; I hope XDA doesn't condone this behaviour personally.
[HTC EVO 3D] Scotty_Two:
If you don't like the ROM or can't go without using a non-compatible kernel, don't use the ROM. It's that simple.

Sent from my Jelly Beaned CDMA Evo 3D, compliments of agrabren
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
I suggest everyone who isn't directly involved with the development of this rom walk away.

I'm not in the mood for your shenanigans today. If you aren't here to be constructive. Well.

Matt I know deep down you mean well, and thats not directly towards you. But please.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
watch out! we got a fanboy over here!

no, it's soimply a shame that it was closed, sure. But why does agrabren not follow the rules given by the license he operates under?

i tried to compile the kernel twice - it got hot and did not boot - i followed the given instructions.

I even compiled other kernels myself. they did not boot, too. phone only gets hot.

EDIT:

@Scotty_Two:

it is about the principle.
[HTC EVO 3D] NineInchNails:
Understood. Thank you.
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Ok.

We get it. I think your opinion is documented. Move away while you can.

This is not going the direction anyone wants it to. Even if you think it is, believe me it isn't.
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkRazorZ:
Well, looks like it's been another day on the Evo 3D forums, haha.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Ok, got it. I'll let you and the mod team do the job.
[HTC EVO 3D] cityeyes:
You know you can state your opinion without being an ass about it, right?

Agraben's a talented dev and it's stupid that he has to put up with this crap, that's all I'm saying. Said the same thing about the dude you're pulling for multiple times as well.

My ultimate wish for the Android community would be for everyone to work together, give everyone credit, and respect one another. Crap drama like this (from whatever "side" anyone is on) detracts from that wish.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
well 1.st that was fun.

2nd...

i totally agree with you. totally.