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[G2 and Desire Z General] knighToFdemonS:
Hey,

Last weekend my phone got wet (was completly sunk in water) but after drying everything seems fine. I still cannot believe it myself but yet i couldnt find any damage (except the waterseals).

Now i wanted to know if there is an app to test the sensors and anything possible? Couldnt find any on market.

Iam running cyanogenmod 7.2 stable, so there are also some developeroptions...but nothing that says 'yes okay the sensor responds and give me normal values' .

Does somebody know anything?

Thanks

knighToFdemonS
[G2 and Desire Z General] Killer1desireZ:
Make sure you backup everything. It'll probably die in a few weeks when corrosion starts inside...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Ajxx16:
I jumped on a pool with the phone in my pocket.. yeah stupid but anyways, I had my phone battery out, sim out and SD card and sunk it all in rice for about a day, your phone should turn out fine aside from stains on your screen which will eventually clear up a little. My phone is still running great.
[G2 and Desire Z General] knighToFdemonS:
Uh sure corrosion ... :( sounds bad...i hope it wont die... i gently dryed it with a fan and held it a long time bodywarm.

I was on a festival and at the stages when heavy rain starts and my tent got completly drowned (phone was off for batterysave).

As i pulled it out the water it vibrated 3 times as the water run out. I instantly took out the battery. One day later we got home and i used the fan.

After another hour cooling down, it booted up with some flickering lights but everything works. Flickering lights are

gone now, too.

I just wanted to ask if theres a developers or engeneers app for a healthcheck^^ perhaps some memory is damaged i dont know of yet or something like that.
[G2 and Desire Z General] killj0y:
Best bet is to open er up and properly clean and dry everything you can. To avoid corrosion and to be certain it's dry
[G2 and Desire Z General] mazdarati2:
a little offtopic but, is the Desire Z actually waterproof? there aren't any dump***es on youtube testing it ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Ajxx16:
Doubt it, but mine was literally submerged in water for maybe a minute, and my phone works the exact same. Rice man, works wonders.
[G2 and Desire Z General] knighToFdemonS:
Bowl of rice, nice idea...

Is there any tut how to open the G2? I tried myself but got stuck after 2 screws...couldnt find another and case wouldnt open^^'

And no, G2 is not waterproof...at least there is no commercial that says so^^

My one was at least half an hour fully under water (not a bit was out of the water), but it was switched off.

As I pulled it out of the little lake in my tent it vibrated 3 times (perhaps an automated protection of the electronic circuit? if too wet sensor switches off the whole circuit?) and i removed the battery in panic.

Then i didnt turn it on for 2 days. One day dried open air at the festival and the second day i gently used a hairdryer to get rid of the water under the display.

Its still like a miracle for me...never thought it would even turn on again.
[G2 and Desire Z General] demkantor:
not waterproof

there are three t5 torx screws, then you need a plastic pry tool or guitar pick to open the case. search youtube for a video like digitizer replacement and you'll see how to do it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antawnm26:
It's looking very dim for samsung at this point. My overall observation is how big of a blow would this win if Apple wins be to the Android OS?

http://allthingsd.com/20120806/iphone-caused-crisis-of-design-at-samsung-memo/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] blackguy101:
Well here is the thing. If they are mainly suing over android features how come apple just does not go after google?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] huedawg:
That can't handle that "beast".
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Mark930:
screw apple I love their Macs but they really need to lay off android and stop trying to be the one and only mobile os there is nothing wrong with a little compitition. I will never buy another ios device because off all apples BS
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antawnm26:
+1
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stevenjcampbell:
with all respect to the late Steven P. Jobs, apple had a huge problem with people copying interfaces, and this is more of a Jobs thing.

If you look at the history of the company based in the Jobs biography, it has always had problems with competitors copying them, but seems like this time is the first time that they feel the leverage to pursue legal action.

I for one am seeing this as apple being completely ugly and childish, and it certainly has changed the way that I look at them and their products.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mustbepbs:
It also doesn't help that Samsung seems hell bent on losing this case. Most things they've done so far have either pissed off the Judge or made themselves look like idiots.

I don't know what street corner they got their lawyers from, but they need to seriously consider getting some new ones.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stevenjcampbell:
Perhaps this is a cultural divide.

It seems to me this legal battle is being fought on Apple's home turf.

Of course, I live in the USA.

I believe the justice system is impartial to a certain degree but South Korean companies do business differently (every country does) and their behavior from the get go I would agree seems a little uncouth.

Releasing the images of the prototypes to the media was a bad idea. I haven't kept up on the case as much as I would like but seems they don't get that they should play nice in court.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] drbobmd:
Last I checked, the US still has anti-monopoly laws in place. Will it deter their dominance quest? Of course not. What can we do? What we already do: support and run Android! Plus, without apple, these forums would be overrun with idiots asking what the extra physical buttons do and demanding to know why they didn't receive a gingerbread and frozen yogurt sandwich covered in jelly beans and cupcake frosting with their device purchase ;)

Super SGS3, Away!!

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Sccrluk9:
I think it was a good idea. Piss off the judge and if she shows that shes pissed and thus bias in court you get a mistrial and can get an easy appeal thus showing that evidence in court.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] C0ntr0lfr33k:
I think you are right. This will definitely go to appeal. Chances are that Samsung will get whatever judgement suspended until its worked its way through the system. This case is very hotly contested and I can see it making it to the Supreme Court.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] piiman:
Why is that so damning? All I see is what any CEO should do and that is look at the competition and see what you have to do to compete with them?

I'll bet there is a memo like that in every mobile phone company's CEO email somewhere. You have to look at the competition, especially when they make something so different and game changing, and change directions and you have to communicate that some how. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jejb:
I agree. Maybe I'm not seeing the context, but it sure just reads like he's pushing his developers to come up with better products, which is what he should be doing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] marsonist:
I understand that my sentiments will belong to the minority here, but the fact that we like certain aspects of android phones better than certain aspects of various iPhones doesn't change Apple's claims.

The court case isn't about a rectangular phone with rounded corners or rounded-square green phone icons, it's about the entirety of the widget. If any one of Apples claims were made on its own, the case would have long since been thrown out. We can't become so jaded by the ubiquity of the iPhone in 2012 to remember how vastly different, unique, and mind blowing it was in 2007. You will see by my profile here that, A) I don't post a whole heck of a lot, B) I was using touch screen XDA devices years before the iPhone came out, and C) after the iPhone came out, I dropped off the face of the xda-developers world. Not because I was an Apple fan-boy... but because they brought a product to market that it took competitors many years to try and catch up with. Phones of that day were slow, the interfaces were buggy and unintuitive. We had never seen a mobile OS interface that was designed from the ground up to be used without a stylus.

While we love to think that swipe to unlock, pinch to zoom and pages of horizontally scrolled square icons, touch screen predictive thumb keyboards are common place and should be fair game for all. I'm thinking that many forgot that there were a couple of years where there was only one show in town with those features.

I currently own a SGS3, I love it, but the very foundation of that phone (and almost all android phones) is built off of the bricks that Apple laid. You want to see someone who didn't wholesale steal the iPhone's groove? Look at Nokia, or Microsoft. (One might also note, that they haven't been doing all that great.) Someone has to be ill informed, disingenuous, or nearly blind to say that the smartphones of today look more like the non-iPhones of 2007 than the iPhone of 2007.

I would love for Apple to be wrong. I love their products, but I love competition better. The fact is, though, that wholesale theft and regurgitation of another company's product is not truly competition. Rather than defending Samsung or cursing Apple, we should be demanding that our devices be more than just half hearted clones.

//signed Devil's Advocate
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kishin14:
I think calling the S3 a half hearted clone is doing both the Android OS and the strides that Android hardware makers have made over the past several years a disservice. I love competition too. But I also believe it is in full force here. Competition is why the S3 is light years better than my first Android device, the Droid X. Competition is why the S3 is the fastest, smoothest and least buggy Android device I've owned. I agree that the iPhone was a ground breaking device that set the standard for all smartphones. But when I see just how far the Android ecosystem has advanced in just the past two years I can't help but be impressed. Two year ago (July 2010) I waited in line for the Droid X. It had Froyo, which was obviously inferior to iOS 3.0, which was on iPhone devices at that time. I have now moved on to the S3 with ICS. The difference is night and day -- almost beyond compare. This was made possible not only by vast improvements in the Android OS by Google but also because of vast improvements in the hardware designed to run it by smartphone makers such as Samsung and HTC. Also, if you really think the S3 is a half hearted clone, can I ask why you have one, why do you love it and what compelled you to switch from the iPhone? I'm not trying to sarcastic. I really would like to know. Thanks for listening to my two cents.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zzd4nzz:
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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] marsonist:
Absolutely fare questions. I own an Android device because I am inherently a tinkerer. I have had every generation of iPhone with a brief lapse in 2009 when the OG Droid was released. (I say brief because I gave it away after three months.) The interface and primary functionality of iPhones is a well worn path. I decided that I'd like something that I can toy with more. The ability to tinker is not a feather in Samsung's cap, however, rather a more fundamental aspect of the Android core.

It is now 2012. Early Android phones left *a lot* to be desired. Newer devices are more stable and have a few neat features that the iPhone doesn't, yet, have. Would these devices have lasted long enough to say "We've got NFC first" if they hadn't spent four years walking in the iPhones footsteps? I don't think so.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] P-Sign:
It's really a stupid case in my opinion. I mean, yeah, Samung probably took the iPhone as an example when they developed the Galaxy line. So what? Does Apple want Samsung to make phones shaped in a triangle? Beds have looked pretty much the same bar some details but no-one is complaining about copyright infringement. If something makes an impact as big as the iPhone on society, how is it possible not to think of it when developing a phone after it's release?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Imatoasta:
I hope Apple wins the software side of the argument so then maybe Samsung will stop puking their TW over android and let Google deal with any legal **** that comes about.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Packstrap:
For me, Apple has an edge in terms of design, just a little bit. See this vid (copy and paste this after youtube.com "/watch?v=-7uL-DON5FU" (without the quotation obcourse), comparing physical designs of iPhone 4S and SGS III. Im not an apple fan boy, and also not a Fandroid, but Samsung Galaxy family should have atleast make their phone designs much above average since they considered the best smartphone maker in the world these days in terms of sales. These past few months, Apple seems a bit silent about their upcoming phone.I hope the body design gets more thinner. Thinner than what we see in the internet right now...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] guthrien:
I don't think there is any doubt Android features were born off the back of Apple's development, my viewpoint is that's how all technological fields go forth when they are as big as mobile devices and I think a jury is likely to see it the same way.

However, more than pointing to Apple as an evil empire (which ironically they somewhat aspire to after their years in the desktop race) I think this trial is an sign of the sickness in our modern patent system. That's what needs hashing out and this jury is unlikely to accomplish that.

Go forth and multiply the ideas! (he typed on his new Galaxy S3 from iPhone swap)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] newuser134:
I think Apple is acting like a spoiled kid with a new toy that they take outside to show other kids, and it so happens that after a few days the other kids get their own new toys and bring them out, although not as good at first, eventually they start getting so much better that the first kid is now all worried about getting the crowd's attention so he runs and cries to his parents that the other kids now have better toys and mine is no longer the nicest, then when that doesn't work, this kid goes to the other kids' parents and tries to convince them not to let their kids bring out their best toys out because they might break if you take them outside. When that doesn't work either, this kid, instead of trying to enjoy his own toy rather than worry what others have that is better, tries to go to different toy stores to convince them not to sell nice toys to other kids his age because they don't know how to take care of them. It would not be wise to listen to excuses like this. What is causing this behavior on Apple's part, is nothing else than jealously and greed.

What Apple is ultimately trying to accomplish is to make EVERYONE buy their own yearly "half" releases where almost nothing changes, not because their products are actually better, but because there is nothing else in existence if they successfully sue all of their competition.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] shima_momy:
Samsung only

if Apple fan just open their mind for 1 second and see what almighty Samsung has to offer, they would never go back to Apple. but alas...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] rweddy1:
Wouldn't that be great for sure.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] hungry81:
Apple takes existing tech makes some of it more basic and markets the hell out of it, meanwhile it keeps quiet about all the things they make more complex about the product. The first iPhone was an evolution on one hand with capacitive screen easy UI and massive marketing and a regression on the other hand with difficult file transfer, 2g only, neutered Bluetooth, iTunes and DRM. Asian companies innovate and invent on a regular basis, Samsung alone has a huge r&d budget. its just that apple is ignoring the fact it is using and abusing the frand patent system whilst hiding its own generic patients away from anybody else to use
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SFniner415:
Last I checked, the US still has anti-monopoly laws in place. Will it deter their dominance quest? Of course not. What can we do? What we already do: support and run Android! Plus, without apple, these forums would be overrun with idiots asking what the extra physical buttons do and demanding to know why they didn't receive a gingerbread and frozen yogurt sandwich covered in jelly beans and cupcake frosting with their device purchase ;)

Super SGS3, Away!!

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TechSavvy2:
Wouldn't that be the ****? Apple wins software side and here comes an OTA update of......wait for it.......AOSP. Win-win (lol, not really).

Really liked the car references though. Auto manufacturers don't sue because of 4 wheels, an internal combustion engine, and a steering wheel. They all look the same from a revolutionary standpoint.

But seriously, I was reading that Samsung is taking customers from apple because consumers walk into the carriers store, and get "confused" about which product is which. I'm sorry but you're a dumbass if you go into the store looking for an iphone and "accidently" buy something else thinking it was an iPhone. My grandma knows the difference and she's 98 yrs old.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] piiman:
No S*%T they don't look anything alike especially if you can pick them up and look at them. It must be Apple employees that are writing those stories
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stevenjcampbell:
The latest revelations make Sammy look terrible.

Finding out that they were contacted in 2010 about apples concerns, offered to be able to buy the rights per device and then turned it down.

This is just about all over for them.

If I was in that jury I'd be asking myself how u could vote in any way but for apples position.

And again I love Samsung stuff. My monitor, notebook, phone...

The facts are black and white:

1. Apple had the foresight to patent certain software techniques and tricks

2. Samsung used the same software techniques and tricks

3. apple pointed that out and offered a financial situation which Samsung refuses.

Meanwhile Samsung internally sets out to copy much of ios.

It just.. I don't like apple but it's pretty much a black and white case it seems.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] piiman:
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It doesn't mean anything that Samsung turned down paying Apple. If you don't think you've done anything wrong you don't go paying fees.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stevenjcampbell:
You don't create a 130+ Page internal document showing how you need to be more like apple.

But they did just that.

Now how do they refute that.

They cannot.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] piiman:
Its not against the law to be "like" Apple. I bet there is a document like that at every company that makes mobile devices. Yea Apple was first so naturally the others have to play catch up. You cant do that without looking at the competition and that's not against the law. They have to prove they infringed on their patents not that they wanted to be like them. Of course I'm no lawyer so I could be all wrong lol

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Tarpit_Carnivore:
There is a difference between market analysis and flat out saying "Be more like iPhone"
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] piiman:
And neither is against the law. Every mobile phone maker wanted to be more like the iphone. that's why they are all touch screens and candy bar style now. Where did they say "lets be more like the iphone and copy all their patents and make a clone"?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] guthrien:
That document is damning for a jury. They better start looking for a settlement I hate to say it. That was horrible. It would be one thing if there was any tone of wanting to improve upon the features etc, but it's just line after line of, "They do this, we do that, we'll do just like them."
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] wera750:
Interesting video about Apple

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFeC25BM9E0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

sent from locked bootloadrer SGS3 running a custom kernel :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] piiman:
Well I disagree and the jury could decide the same, or not. (they could see it like you or they could see it like me you never know with a jury)

Its a bunch of crap about shape,icons and benzel width....pleeaaasssseeeee

One of Apples arguments is that Samsung stole their design because when you open the app draw it looks like an iPhone...Really?!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stevenjcampbell:
Not against the law.

Hyandai aims to look just like BMW, but do they use specific texhnogies that BMW has patented?

We're they stupid enough to create a massive file on how they aim to copy?

If Samsung was accused of copying in 2010 after the s1 was launched, and maybe not a good idea to create a big file on how they are trying to copy them.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bmoreboy02:
If you remember not to long after the iphone was released samsung marketed the instinct as the iphone killer.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Pete7ate:
It depends what you like.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] guthrien:
I pretty much want Samsung to go for a settlement, unless it restricts their technology. Likely it will just be an outrageous licensing fee. I don't trust juries to do more than make a cursory judgements about whether Samsung used the iPhone as the basis of a lot of design (which they obviously did), and the fallout of that could affect Android devices for a long time including gimped and missing releases. Depressing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] piiman:
Its not about them using the iphone as a basis for their design. Its did they infringe on any of their design patents and if those design patents are even valid. And don't forget samsung is counter sueing for the iphone using their 3g patents. Apple could end up screwed also.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stevenjcampbell:
Makes me wonder how Google who know holds a great deal of Motorola wireless patents could factor in one day.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] incubus26jc:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/13/samsungs-defense-against-apple-patents-begins-with-diamondtouch/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] psycopanther:
i for one am completely against apple now just for the fact of all these lawsuits. yes, i see their side of the story, but considering how broad the patents are in some of these cases, they are basically limiting the progress of what these phone technology can become. all because of greed because they know that android is beginning to cut into their profits more than they ever foresaw, and they want to nip as much of it as they can now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Głul:
Samsung

For me the best is Samsung
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] guthrien:
Ok, this defense is going to be a lot more pleasing. Lot of good testimony today about designs pre dating Apple, whether designed by Samsung or not.

Also, was pretty cool to see that the main designer of the Samsung Galaxy line was a woman, you don't see that a lot in the industry.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] piiman:
Did you see the new suit from google-motorola asking to ban all of Apple's products from being imported here? They are finally putting the smack down on Apple's sue happy life. Me thinks Apple needs to shut up and sit down before they have nothing to sell this Christmas season. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/googles-motorola-files-new-suit-against-apple/2012/08/20/5722c028-eabb-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_story.html