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[Android Apps and Games] alsheron:
Thanks very much for your feedback. I did a quick search and I can't find the Pivos XIOS for sale in the UK. Is it US only at the moment? I'm looking for something to reliably run XBMC from as a gift for someone else so can't really hold off. Might end up having to get a Sumvision Cyclone 3 and keep it simple. Unless the latest Apple TV runs xbmc well? :(
[Android Apps and Games] dpassaggio:
How do I implement a plugin in XBMC external video player like MX?
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
I believe there are some EU resellers of the XIOS, but I don't know offhand which ones are selling it. The main XBMC forums have a couple threads where re-sellers in the EU have been discussed.

The ATV may be an option but I think it requires a bit of setup, you'd have to check the official docs on that front.

If you are looking to keep it simple and get the best support you may want to look into non-Android options right now. The Android stuff can be made to work but to me it's not there yet for general day to day. I've told many friends / relatives to hold off on anything media center wise on Android for the time being. I think XBMC and the hardware will get there, but its still too early for the general population in my opinion.
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
Are you looking to run an external player in conjunction with XBMC or are you trying to embed your own player?
[Android Apps and Games] Brock92:
You can pre order the UK xios from here. They are official UK distributor.

xiosds.co.uk
[Android Apps and Games] dpassaggio:
Yes, ultimately it would be the same, I would be pleased also to be able to open a video playlist of xbmc with external player, or better yet implement only the external video codec in XBMC
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
There are some experimental patches out there that enable the use of an external player, but that is all I've seen. There is also some work being done to get hardware decoding online. You'll definitely have to do some digging on those counts.
[Android Apps and Games] dpassaggio:
ok, a plugin add-on, could you give me a name so I install it and try it?
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
I don't have any names, I just know others have done some work to get an external player working with XBMC on Android. You'll have to dig around the internet some.
[Android Apps and Games] alsheron:
I'm pretty new to xbmc so I'm struggling to find an alternative to run it on that's short of buying a full mini-pc. The ATV comes in at £66 so fairly reasonable IF it does what the seller claims. Going a bit off topic here but are there any alternatives to the ATV for a similar price that run it from a more reliable platform than android? Had a quick Google but nothing's showing up that I can see - not for the UK anyway. XBMC hardware is surprisingly very niche considering how powerful it is as how long it's been around.

In any case - if I buy the ATV - I'm assuming that I can try out the build of XBMC now the vendor has installed and if there are any issues I can revert to Android anyway using MXplayer etc to play my media until a time comes when XBMC is more stable?

The ATV hardware is more than powerful enough to use with XBMC now as far as I know for video playback - it's just the hardware support isn't (might not) be ideal yet? I'm guessing it's fairly certain that this will improve with time? Reason I say all this is that a viable alternative doesn't seem to be available - not that I can see anyway - so the ATV could be an "investment" which could be upgraded at a later stage when more stable, optimised builds of XBMC are available for android? Appreciate your feedback about stability - I just can't find an alternative unfortunately. Any suggestions?
[Android Apps and Games] adit9989:
This "should work" (ask seller if he tested it with HW acceleration). Search for "futeko xbmc". It requires the build of XBMC with a aspecial compiler switch. You can even do it yourself, if you follow the instructions on XBMC or get an already build install (either from futeko or from pivos forums). If you build it yourself you can be at the same level as this current builds, but with HW acc on.("The key change you need to make is to edit the Makefile (tools/android/depends/xbmc/Makefile) to add --enable-player=amlplayer after all the other --enables. With that change XBMC should build with Amlogic hardware video acceleration enabled").

I would wait a littel bit however the Dual core Amlogic MX 1.5 GHz boxes should be available vey soon, there are a few announced but not available yet.Keep an eye on ovalelefant for one model .If you don't want to wait, I think M3 is already a step-up comparing with the M used in Pivos. From what we know all Amlogic CPUs from the same series use the same HW acceleration so the builds should work.But with MX you get dual core at 1.5 GHz and Android Jelly Bean so the overall UI should be more snappy (HW decoding is used for video playback only).
[Android Apps and Games] edd247:
I would recommend the raspberry pi, although the processing power is not the best, it handles 1080p video with no problem. Plus it is only $35
[Android Apps and Games] CitizenX:
Has someone an actual version with aplayer? The pivos version from 9th october gets laggy after about 10-15 minutes of watching for me.

The nighlies from http://tbueter.com/ fc´s for me when i start a movie... :(
[Android Apps and Games] RalphUp:
Samsung S3 Latest builds and MENU KEY and BACK KEY lit up all time

Yes in:

XBMC FOR ANDROID DISCUSSION > INSTALLING XBMC FOR ANDROID > Thread: Samsung S3 Latest builds and MENU KEY and BACK KEY lit up all time

Created 10-26-2012 12:15 PM

Cheers

Ralph
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
Crap, I missed it in my search :( I'll keep an eye out for something that might be a practical fix. Right now I'm working on getting the non-NEON builds back online. Turns out the 4.2 fixup breaks the Tegra2 builds...

I found the cause, now onto a proper fix.
[Android Apps and Games] xoom68:
Will this fix the Xoom as well. :) :) :)
[Android Apps and Games] adit9989:
How about hiding the navigation bar completely during playback , like most decent players do ? Many tablets which use soft navigation buttons (Nexus 7 is one of them) have this problem. The fact is that somebody already done this but it's not in the main branch, buy any reasons ( https://github.com/jamiejones85/xbmc/commits/master ). If you use a device which outputs 1920x1080 on a TV you don't want to keep these mavigation on and lose space during playback. The navigation comes back if you have a user action but should be auto hidden again a few seconds later, as other players do. There is support in Android for this. Preferrably use a JB device to test.
[Android Apps and Games] dragonash:
I'll give it a shot.

But i know for a fact that when i was double tapping slow and fast, it froze up ;p

I dont have a BT keyboard, but I do have a BT mouse.

edit:

One more thing.

I own a Galaxy Nexus running liquid smooth JB.

Everything works, except when video plays, it is in a constant state of stutter - audio and video

edit2:

oh please oh please get it working for Cotton Candy!

http://www.fxitech.com/
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
Is this an android device?
[Android Apps and Games] FFXTDS:
I use a mouse and it works fine like that
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
Which skin are you having the most trouble with for touch?
[Android Apps and Games] FFXTDS:
The touch skin that comes with it. I think. Im in the process of updateing it to ics right know
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
The normal skin that you see on first launch with the ribbon through the center is confluence. It is optimized for keyboard / remote. Under settings -> appearance there is an option to change from confluence to "touched". The touched skin is much better optimized for touch screens.
[Android Apps and Games] FFXTDS:
That's the one I use
[Android Apps and Games] dragonash:
short answer, yes.

that will be the best portable media device ever when combined with xbmc

http://www.youtube.com/results?sear....0.111.1175.12j2.14.0...0.0...1ac.xG1IVYLHsZs
[Android Apps and Games] repvik:
At almost three times the price of the MK802 and Oval Elephant devices, without huge differences in spec?

The cotton candy is nice and all (and comes from my home town, even!), but it's pretty expensive compared to similar devices. And as far as I can see, also unreleased as of yet?
[Android Apps and Games] dragonash:
oh wow, didnt know about oval, even has neon!

Are both those options single core though? (looks like oval is having power issues too)
[Android Apps and Games] repvik:
Both are single-core Allwinner A10 (which is an A8 core IIRC). The MALI on both is (I believe) single-core, as opposed to the CC's quad-core MALI.

They can all run XBMC (w/o hw accel atm, so no HD content yet). They have no problems whatsoever with playing 1080p content with acceleration.

They're pretty neat devices. I've got an Oval Elephant, powered off of a 1200mAh supply. I haven't run into any power issues yet. But it might have issues with being powered from two usb ports or less.

But it's got 4gb internal flash :)

I really should try the NEON build on my OE though.
[Android Apps and Games] elmerohueso:
Just buy an OUYA. Better specs at half the price. And they are working directly with the XBMC team. Their Kickstarter campaign just ended, but they opened a pre-orders page at http://www.ouya.tv/buyouya/.

Sure, it won't be shipped until March/April. I have my ATV2 with XBMC until then.
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
If you try the neon builds, can you report back with your results? I am trying to keep a hardware list in the OP so people new to the thread know which build is going to work no matter what for their device.
[Android Apps and Games] dragonash:
except that its massive compared to the usb sticks.

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Toshiba Thrive update:

Running stock ICS.

touchscreen still doesnt work. If you hit the button rapidly, it might go through. But rarely.

BT keyboard/mouse works.

I didnt test out the xbmc remote from the store yet.

720p playback is non existent, but thats to be expected since there is no hardware decoding
[Android Apps and Games] lavero.burgos:
yes both are single core while the cotton candy is dual core. Also you have to compare their processors cortex-A8 is cheaper than cortex-A9. The cortex-A8 advantages are that all of them include NEON and it has a great development community behind that give support for various OS but it's performance is poor. You also have to think about the hardware building design, if you give too much power for a USB thumb drive-sized device it will heat alot and probably could cause some damage to the hardware.

I am a backer of @equiso on kickstarter, @PocketTV looked great too but costs more. Equiso have the best price in the market $69 (521MB ram) and $99 (1GB ram) with cortex-A5 processor, no sdcard slot (no biggie for me),It includes a nice remote control with Qwerty. They have it on Amazon and Ebay for pre-order. Backers as me will get it earlier obviously.

About the Ouya is a nice device but i rather buy it when is out for sale officially - retail price. My think is by the time (7-8 months) other high-spec devices will appear and so the Ouya won't look like the cream of the cream (as someone said) anymore.

There is a price war for tablets already and now is the turn of the set-top-boxes.

Just my 2¢

Edit: If anyone really wants a box (HTPC) that can run XBMC without an issue on windows and linux then the solution is here (XBMC Forum is down for the moment :eek:), also for the boxes that have AMD Brazos line (APU | E-series) CPU's you can install android 4.0 RC2 on them. I already picked mine :P

US only, Canada coming soon and Europe in 2013: And for the ones looking for a great DVR solution then please look here, get it with the Mohu Antenna (if you want to cut cable) and you're ready to go.

Edit 2: Sorry for the offtopic dev :D keep up the good work.

~ V
[Android Apps and Games] elmerohueso:
Comparatively massive (it's about 4" square), but it's quad-core and it's actually officially supported by XBMC. I'd rather have the cheaper, bigger, better-spec'ed, guaranteed-to-be-supported box (with the benefit of also being a game system). And really, a 4" cube next to your entertainment center is still pretty dang small.
[Android Apps and Games] dragonash:
I really have liked the idea behind ouya since it was first announced for kickstarter.

But like pretty much everything out there, I still have to wait for it. Who knows what might come out when that does. Albiet that is geared towards a more specific area (games). I just cant stop liking the whole usb stick sized entertainment system.

Obviously how well xbmc runs on it will be a major factor in if i get one/what i get.

It's really an exciting time for this. Too bad we have to wait a bit :)
[Android Apps and Games] elmerohueso:
The OP says someone ran this on the TouchPad with CM9. Any idea what build of CM9 they were on? I'm on the CM9 nightlies and can't get XBMC working (it opens the main screen, freezes, then crashes).

Also, is anyone else having issues with movie scraping? I've already submitted logs and logcat, but I want to know if anyone else has had XBMC crash every time it tries to scrape for movie info (when local info/artwork is not present). I'm running this on an Iconia a500 on ICS.
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
The user was running CM9-20120723-Nightly and a non-neon build of XBMC. You will want to clear the app cache if you are switching from a neon build to the non-neon build before running XBMC. If you do not do this, XBMC will likely continue to crash.

I don't see anything in the logcat that would indicate the problem. Can you post an XBMC debug log as well? Also, have you tried IMDB?
[Android Apps and Games] repvik:
Yes, I've tried the NEON build. It starts, but I get "Error 2: share not available" when trying to set up an SMB source. I don't get to the part where I select workgroup, it just errors out. So SMB doesn't work on the Oval Elephant/UHOST, unlike my Transformer Infinity.

(Is XBMC dependant on certain smb libs being included in Android? If so, I guess that Allwinners build doesn't include those for some stupid reason)

It plays media from the SD card however, so it works. No HD content of course. This should (atleast in theory) be the same on all Allwinner A10 devices (which is a bunch of devices)
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
No idea, but the assembler code that caused the build to blow up is wrapped in a condition that looks for NEON or vfpv3 from what I can tell. The trick is the Tegra2 is vfpv3-d16 and the operators all have 32 tacked onto them. The code is in the Audio Engine stuff so it could explain why it "randomly" dies out after watching a video for a period of time.

If you are interested the relevant change is: https://github.com/mcrosson/xbmc/commit/6e2e058d4ffdca5810f01f5f4ed15453bc5da44b

I have no idea if the change is sound, I'm building right now but I think it should work. May not be the best way to solve the problem but as long as it works....
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
I had worked on something along these lines in August myself but I never manged to get it working. Right now the XBMC dev's are focused on main features like hardware decoding and not polish. Having said that if a community member creates a pull request on git hub they are pretty good at merging updates into the trunk.

Another thing to note is they prefer to use the NDK methods whenever possible. When I was working on the change I was asked to see if it was possible using the NDK instead of a JNI bridge.
[Android Apps and Games] adit9989:
Reading the comments I think "jamiejones85" got it working, but not sure why was not added in the main branch. Maybe because it requires a JNI bridge, but may not be possible without.

I don't think this is minor, many will be using XBMC with a "TV box" or "TV stick" on a standard 1920x1080 TV screen, with movies played at that res. If navigation bar takes screen space it will force the decoder to downscale so you will not be able to get 1:1 mapping on the screen which will introduce arifacts and loss in quality.You will also end up with bars on the sides if you want to keep the aspect ratio.On a tablet or phone does not matter so much but on a big screen TV it does.
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
I think the consensus was it is a change that needs to be made in the long run but without hardware decoding XBMC is a non-starter for >85% of people. The dev's are focused on the "must have" stuff (like hardware decoding) and will ultimately be addressing UI items and other things in time. If you really want to see the feature sooner than later, try getting in touch with "jamiejones85" to see if he is willing to create the pull request and work with the dev's to get things merged. If you cannot get in touch with "jamiejones85" you can always create a fork and pull request.

Keep in mind the state of XBMC on Android is still developer preview / pre-alpha. There aren't even official nightlies yet. Things will get taken care of in time.
[Android Apps and Games] ermacwins:
Around 5 months since the beta been out, what are the showstoppers preventing from on the Play Store?
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
No official release has been made... What beta are you referring to? The builds here? These builds are unofficial community builds. Also note in the OP I make no reference to the builds being beta or official, I only state it is a nightly build with links to xbmc.org as the origin.

The immediate show stopper is the inability to playback any HD content on general Android devices. Hardware decoding is 100% absent from the main XBMC sources and is being worked on. Without that feature, don't expect an official build or anything in the play store.
[Android Apps and Games] enemostat:
xbdroidmc.com preconfigured unit plays 1080p

Not trued - I own the Midnight from www-xbdroidmc-DOT-com and it runs 1080p fine with hardware decoding. They are releasing a dual core version soon it seems called the Tank but no testing results so far. On their mini-blog it was noted that it was 2x more poweful than the Midnight unit and its in stick form. Its running Amlogic MX (M6) vs. the m3 units inside my Dyno and Midnight - I can't wait!! The team seems to be releasing more and more updates to make me stay with them over pivos or any other offering as they are making updates to their boxes about bi-weekly from the last few. davliia has updated the xbmc files which it looks like to be for the meson6 so I am sure the hardware decoding will work out of the box with the XBdroidMC Tank Stick.
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
New non-NEON build is up on the mirrors. Can the XOOM users give it a shot and see if it fixes the random crash problem that has been happening?
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
The Pivos builds are for the XIOS and will run on other AMLogic boards. That still leaves the general android equipment high and dry for the ability to playback HD content. My understanding is the dev's want to see general hardware decoding before it gets official builds / releases.
[Android Apps and Games] nasimdejai:
Hi does anyone have a link for the version of xbmc android with Wondershare player as external player running on android 4.2 jellybean? Just installed jellybean 4.2 and this broke the above version. Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] Brock92:
I tried it on my wifi zoom. I'm still getting random crashes.
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
Damn. I was really hoping. Can you post a log cat and xbmc log over on xbmcandroid.com/forums from the latest release? We might get lucky and have more useful logs now.
[Android Apps and Games] canardlebarbare:
Thanks a LOT
[Android Apps and Games] xoom68:
Its not listed to download ? Has it gone. Neon version is listed.
[Android Apps and Games] dream78:
Hello all,

I have a trouble to use mxplayer with xbmc to see a video 720p.Everytime when start a movie xbmc tell me click ok when playback has ended,but nothing start or appear.

Sorry for my english.
[Android Apps and Games] dpassaggio:
On PC, I found that to replace the default player I just edit the file "playercorefactory.xml" and replace the player in the "players" folder, you can do the same thing by unzipping the apk for Android?
[Android Apps and Games] nasimdejai:
Hi there,what device and version of android are you on? Also,could you do me a favour and point me in the direction of the xbmc patch using mxplayer as external player and pls include the playerfactory file. I've been using the xbmc patch with Wondershare player on stock 4.1.2 jellybean but as soon as I got the OTA to 4.2, the it stooped working. I've been searching online ever since for a version of xbmc patch with Wondershare player running on 4.2 jellybean. I'm on Galaxy Nexus with stock Android 4.2 and never rooted. Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] dream78:
Hi, thanks all for reply.I use Nexus 7 with tegra 3 hardware.Version of Android it's 4.1.1
[Android Apps and Games] nasimdejai:
Get in touch with kemonine96. He might have an idea about resolving the issue you have with the mxplayer+xbmc combo.
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
Nope, I wouldn't have any idea. I'm not supporting the external player build. Search back through the thread for support on it or head over to www.xbmcandroid.com/forums

Others are taking care of this build.
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
Check the box and google code mirrors.
[Android Apps and Games] RalphUp:
Super news kemonine96, let me know when the fix is in-place and I will test and report back/
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
The latest non-NEON build is up on the google code and box mirrors. Another XOOM user reported the "fix" didn't address the problem. At this point I am looking for updated log cats and xbmc logs (at least log cat, preferably both). Hopefully there is more information in the log in the new version.
[Android Apps and Games] Brock92:
I don't know how to do log cats and xbmc logs. Is there a guide on how to do them anywhere?
[Android Apps and Games] dentdntn:
Playercorefactory.xml for different plugins

Hi,

Is it possible to open specific plugins with dice player or mx to player but to use the built in player to open iplayer or itvplayer etc only?

I know you can set rules within the xml but I don't have any knowledge of how to add rules etc.

Ideal situation would be to stream via icefilms with mx or dice and use the default player to open iplayer etc. If someone could provide me with an example then that would be great.

Streams from iplayer and itvplayer don't play with mx or dice so I need to adapt the rules.

Any help would be appreciated.
[Android Apps and Games] dream78:
I think the problem is share with samba, i try upnp Someone tell me how share with upnp.
[Android Apps and Games] edd247:
here is my logcat from my xoom: http://pastebin.com/wbAznRV7

I must say that the last two nightlies run rather smooth and only force closed on me twice, once when i first opened 11-28 and the other time right after pressing stop when i tried to play a 720p mkv file. It is running good right now, except for those two instances. I will do more testing.

update: I am now starting to experience more random shutdowns, but it is less than before the last update. Before this new build I couldnt use the app more than 10 seconds before it closed. Now it seems at least somewhat usable.
[Android Apps and Games] dentdntn:
Yes indeed samba or windows smb will only display artwork etc but won't play your files.

Start XBMC in Windows and go to network settings and enable UPNP. From Android XBMC add video source and choose UPNP. Choose your movies folder and add then it should start to scan your library. You should be able to play your movies with external player now.
[Android Apps and Games] fouad796:
I Confirm hardware decoding works on hp touchpad cm10
[Android Apps and Games] kemonine96:
Um.... the builds here don't have amplayer enabled and I don't see any commits recently that would indicate they turned the feature on.

May I ask how you came to the conclusion?