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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
Thanks for the compliment, I'm just a little slower than I used to be... Now I realize multiple kids does not multiply my duties, it's exponentially increased them, lol... Just wish the prima_wlan issue didn't exist, slows me down, adding one edit, compile, test, see if it breaks Wi-Fi, etc.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
I hear you I'm hoping I don't burn out my processors
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Zarboz:
talkin to someone about some toys for us

we will see what happens
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DRUMMERCD360:
Which governor is the best to use? There's a lot to choose from and I'm a little confused. A little help? :o

Governors

Smartassv2

Interactive

Conservative

Powersave

Ondemand (set as default)

Performance

Lagfree

Lionheart
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] smw6180:
Depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Your best bet is to try each one until you find the one that gives you the best balance of battery/performance.

Smartassv2 tends to work best for me when I'm using a custom kernel, but Lionheart is more like performance and will give you better overall performance at the cost of battery.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MassStash:
I get great bat with lionheart n deadline all day

~Poisoned Viper4g LTEvOne by TeamVenom, Lionheart Cranked to 1.72Jigawats Deadline: Ca1ned.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
If I recall correctly lion heart works best with sio
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MassStash:
Ah yea? I wonder what the logic there is....

~Poisoned Viper4g LTEvOne by TeamVenom, Lionheart Cranked to 1.72Jigawats Deadline: Ca1ned.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] drlzanej:
Really, it all depends on the device and the person opperating it. As said before, try different frequencies and scheduler combos till you find whas best for you
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] marvinlh:
Which do u guys think is best for battery life? Besides power save :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bravo1565:
When I download the kernal why does it always content not supported
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] premo15:
Conservative + sio = best battery life for me

Sent from my EVO LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] {SBR}_L3GION:
I'm a big fan of lion hart+ sio scheduler. Lion hart is a conservative governor that doesn't sacrifice performance.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DNarsingh:
WOOO!!! We now have the source code:

http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] officiallytook:
U beat me to it

Sent from my EVO using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] luigi311:
Oyeaaa ca1ne loved ur kernals on the og I'm a flash this baby!!!! Btw gpu oc is set by default to 500 ? Never understood gpu oc on androids lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
This is with no SD card (waiting on a new one) pretty impressive!

Sent from my Mean Ass NuVo LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mimmy721:
I flashed this kernal and now my weather won't update. Wiped dvlik and cache before and after. Any thoughts?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] luigi311:
wait htc released source for 1.33 already? nice!!!

what are all those features!?!?!?!?!? omg ca1ne u rock!!!!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rrusek:
What about 2 easy call recording?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] YoungCorruptionV2.0:
Able to run this at 2.1 GHz with no problem. Not even getting warm :)

Sent from my EVO using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
I wish :banghead: I can't get past 1.8 without loops

Sent from my Mean Ass NuVo LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] YoungCorruptionV2.0:
Lol I'm always lucky with the device I get :) but that sucks bro. Ocing that hight isn't worth it ;). Just pushing the limits

Sent from my EVO using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] luigi311:
mine goes to 2.1 to ;) but it boot lopped past 1.8 on previous oc methods so it might be the way oc is handled now so if u bootlooped before try it again with no frills it restores if it crashes :D so no pain no gain ;D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
I was having the same problem. Since you're on MeanROM, reflash which ever version your on, but don't flash the oc zips in the MeanROM ICS folder. Then flash the Kernel. That got rid of my bootloops, and oc'd to 2.109.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pedestrian Man:
Running great on Viper4g

Sent from my Third Generation Evo
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] smashedpoodle:
MeanROM 2.7 here. I wiped cache+dalvik, installed, and wiped cache + dalvik again. Powered down. Started up. Installed no-frills cpu and set it to 2.1 w/ lionheart governer. No problems at all, and the phone is snappier than it's ever been. Excellent battery life so far. Great work sir. Thanks for your contribution.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] harvickgm:
Ca1ne!!! Thanks for ur hard work and I'm glad to see ur work on our phone

Sent from my Supercharged ELiTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] officiallytook:
Alright, havingtrouble I'm s off, and on 1.22 base.... Need help ...no CPU currently and need to speed...lol

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] volk9029:
Thank you for your work . Flashed on tranquility rom, no problems.

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] reverepats:
Yeah everything is good? What clock speed u running at? I may give it a go after work
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] erikivy:
What is everyone using to control this beast? Is SetCPU ok or is there some sort of built-it utility? I downloaded it, but have not yet flashed it.

Thanks!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
Everything seems good I'm using vc through terminal em set at 1.51 and lion heart all seems well so far
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
You can use setcpu if you are on venom they have oc daemon in their Rom you can get setcpu pro free somewhere here on xda well at least you could and a lot of people use system tuner and set a intd script.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] volk9029:
Use no-frills cpu.

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
i got so excited when i saw this haha
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
That IS exciting... That means we should have a new OTA tomorrow! :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommytomatoe:
Party like a rock star! I didn't know you were here!!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] whiterider13:
Hey Tommy. Did you get your screen fixed?

Sent from my EVO using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
Just getting schooled on dual processors, lol.moving slower than I want to due to Wi-Fi borking, lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
i thought i saw some where that said the wifi borks if you put in BFQ scheduler and try and disable the preflock
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] debarron:
Yeah the OP might be where you saw it. LOL
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
Going to wait a bit for that... I'm hoping to have a fairly stable and updated "stock" kernel to customize. And I might be winning the battle with the Wi-Fi module, not sure yet though.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Joey121215:
dang, I'm dying for a good CMX kernel. The CPU performance with the default kernel is terrible compared to how the CPU normally performs
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
Just think when key lime pie comes out, HTC will release jelly bean source. Then we will be good, lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
so i hate to ask haha, but how is the new kernel coming along :) your kernel runs the best on my phone :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] premo15:
Just wanna say: I love this kernel. I run it exclusively...it goes with me between roms and is always the first thing I flash. Hands down better battery life than any of the other custom kernels available... for me anyway. Doesn't get hot either, which is always a plus. Very nice work, looking forward to more of your stuff.

Sent from my EVO LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MassStash:
It's coming along amazing! I have no idea actually but can only assume if it works this well so far, that things are probably going well despite some kind of harddrive crash or some craaazy stuff. So expect the update probably in a future near you.... Yay!

~Poisoned Viper4g LTEvOne by TeamVenom, Lionheart Cranked to 1.72Jigawats Deadline: Ca1ned.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
Man, don't even joke about hard drive crashes. Of course, it does give me an excuse for that new 1TB model!! :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Zarboz:
ca1nes working on some great stuff right now

if he gets it worked out we all will haz new bacon
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MassStash:
Long as its maple bacon.... Mmmmmm maplebacon.....

~Poisoned Viper4g LTEvOne by TeamVenom, Lionheart Cranked to 1.72Jigawats Deadline: Ca1ned.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] stacksptdtdm:
these kernels arent playing nice om my phone. im s-on dev unlocked. i see alot of screen tearing. is there a way i can get back to stock kernel through fastboot ? and aslo tried different roms, i get the same result
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DNarsingh:
Pull the boot.img from the rom you are using and then flash it from fastboot.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] njfoses:
Stock kernel here http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?13380-Stock-Kernel
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kevinrocksman:
has anyone notice (graphic glitches)?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
Its from ocing the gpu

Sent from the depths of hell
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] canito63:
How do I flash this on Viper 4G?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
If you are s-off, flash the so in recovery.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Zarboz:
yo man. check my git out the MPdecision branch

look into acpuclock8960.c

and MSMmpdecision.c

i think i got it figured out im just not openeing the khz check poriton of code in the acpuclock file ... we can then move mpdecision to the kernel

:D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
Another thought is to add some code to thermal in the kernel so it doesn't forget the current khz when it ramps down due to heat, I'll try out both pieces. Check my more recent git for a file named ca1ne.c, that plus a hex edit to prima_wlan beats perflock.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Zarboz:
i got mpdecision mostly implimented on my git

im going to refork your source and see if i can merge
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
Yeah i was going to do that tonight after i revert a commit or two, as you can see I've been busy with modifications lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
Kernel masters working as a team... It's just so beautiful to watch.

:D:p
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Yeah, the collaboration and harmony is a wonderful thing for all of us end users.

Thank you both!!!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Zarboz:
hey man get back to me about prima_wlan.ko we got other krait dev's for diff devices very interested in what you have done with prima_wlan / what i have done with mpdecision

i dropped you a line on gtalk

idk if your busy with the kids tho :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
Labor day weekend stuff, work stuff, its a bit crazy. But ignoring you, just busy. Maybe if i get a few free minutes tonight.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Zarboz:
how wuuude

lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] networx2002:
Hot do you flash a boot img?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
A good reference is here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1794867

Don't forget to flash the zip as well for the modules.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] networx2002:
Thank you... :good:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] {SBR}_L3GION:
Here is the latest source.

http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MassStash:
Wonder if its complete this time? Prolly not haha weak

~Stock 2.13 LTEvo Certified replacement with screen bleed... waiting for second replacement tomorrow... :o

P.S. Stock blows!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] curiousGeorge:
Hey, nice, new kernel source dropped! Excitement is in the air! Now let's hope our great dev's will see their posts getting bumped. ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zeroth:
This kernel fixed my Wi-Fi and camera on Viper 4g rom thanks. :D

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] P.Mobile:
any chance of this being updated???
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MassStash:
I hope so as well. Favorite kernel so far

~ TF101 on Revolver4.2.1

Currently OC'ed to 1.4, with Guevor's v22.6
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
Working on it, just slow moving due to busy life.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
I'll babysit for u
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kevinrocksman:
any plans to get a 2.13 version?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
Look 2 post up
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kevinrocksman:
cant believe i made that noob mistake.... I didnt even think when posting that.

---------- Post added at 04:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:29 AM ----------

actually what i asked was a valid question compared to the one that was asked. because he asked if there would be a update to that one (not 2.13 base) I'm asking if there will be a 2.13 base :p
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
Just got to fix a few more things, and it should be good to go.. at least for a version release.. big props to thicklizard for letting me borrow overclock code as well as thermald and mpdecision that allows me to control the second cpu better.. now i just need to fix some screen tearing.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
I'll be awake for a few hours
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MassStash:
Awesome news bro. I shall be up for a few hours still as well haha

~Viper4G 2.0.1 LTEvo; Kernel stuck stock for the moment
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommytomatoe:
Party time! Can't wait to flash this man :) Finally rooted haha. Glad to see you doing good stuff over here too. How's the baby?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
Kernel based mp mpdecision and thermald control will give you guys so much better battery life without sacrificing performance. You guys are in for a treat. ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] {SBR}_L3GION:
I can't wait until this responded released! I was excited about it when you were talking about it in your kernel on the mikmik.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
I'm a bit delayed because I've been working a booth at an apple harvest festival, hopefully i will get time soon to finish this up. Thanks for your patience.

glad to see you rooted, was missing you, but some time off is always a good thing. Baby is doing good. Both kids were sick this past week, which ate up a lot of time, especially the baby since he is too young for medicine we had to keep doing some up the nose and suction out the nose and mouth just so he could breath, fun fun.

thank you for the code that let this be possible.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] curiousGeorge:
I prefer user-controlled hotplugging (or something like the "hotplug governor" for OMAP processors).

Android is about control, so unless this "internal mpdecision" is user-alterable via sysfs or the like, I'm not sure how happy I'd be with the "one size fits all, we know what's best" policy. (Note: I am actually quite in love with the concept, but be careful about its implementation!) Often I will delete mpdecision entirely (or control core load via scripts -- see meanROM for an example of a dev doing so). If people want to change something internal (without recompiling kernels from scratch each time), it should be possible if possible(TM). Otherwise, Android becomes simply the poor man's iPhone and ROMs become different cydia skins. (Of course, that's an over-exaggeration -- iPhones don't gain 1000+ points in benchmarks due to their cydia skins, do they? :cool:)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
It is configurable on the user end ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] curiousGeorge:
What wonderful news! You certainly win the internets in my book, sir! :laugh: :good:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] marvinlh:
Patiently waiting :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
Wowzas! When did you get this phone Tommy?!? I'm excited all of a sudden knowing that you'll be doing some things over here! My decommissioned og is still running classic :) along with some underworld thanks to ca1ne :D my day has been made haha
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] -viperboy-:
As noble as your efforts are, no need to post this in like every thread. People know which threads to visit to find out this information :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommytomatoe:
Haha. Don't be expecting much from me :)

I've had the LTE since launch day.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] marvinlh:
No more classic roms??
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MassStash:
Perhaps when something here becomes "classic"

~Viper4G 2.0.2 LTEvo; Stuck on Stock for now, phone doesn't like any of 'em yet
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] whiterider13:
We need some classic LTE! :D

Sent from my LTEvo.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] marvinlh:
What's up with this kernel, is there an estimated time for release for the new build? Sorry to ask, I'm just curious, I have been and will continue to patiently wait. :cool:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MassStash:
Bro, really? Read pages back. He's woooooorking on it, but has been busy with family and stuff.

~ TF101 on Revolver4.2.1

Currently OC'ed to 1.4, with Guevor's v22.6
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] marvinlh:
Yes, really!!! I been read that, not rushing him or anything, its a question for him that he will, or will not answer
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
It will be updated when he is ready to give it to us to download

sent from my Mean ass EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] P.Mobile:
im sure ca1ne has something cooking for us.. the wait will be well worth it!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] marvinlh:
I know that, that wasn't my question tho.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
but that is the response, i have yet to meet a dev that will say it will be out by 10/9/12 at 12:30PM. he has a busy life and he is doing this for free so when he has time he will release it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] marvinlh:
Only one person can give me the response I'm looking for and that's ca1ne , every other response is irrelevant. Thanks anyway tho.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
What gives you the right marvin to ask for an eta from someone who does this as a favor for the community and aint gotta share sh it with us? Everyone thats giving you the responses is perfectly in the right. You have no business to ask when it will bedone nor get pissed off when everyone else answers for the man. Ca1ne has a family a job and a life and he dont owe you or anyone else anything. Honestly bro just stop while you are a lil ahead questions like that are what pushes great devs away from thw community and to stop sharing their talents with us. So dont worry about an eta just be happy hes sharing and giving us updates that its being worked on. Everyone else that responded to this guy thank you for being there to help out ca1ne with stupid question answering lol.

Recognized Hooker Killer
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sloth:
Oh snap wile is out of hiding hahaha :p
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
+1000. know one knows or respects the time it takes to put out a good product. Just give me give me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] marvinlh:
Sir yes sir !!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
Nice try at being a smartass bro next time try doing it to someone thats not a disabled veteran who fought for your right to be a dik maybe you should start reading and being reapectful in threads and towards devs and theiir work and not being a leech and mongerer of the goodies they provide us

Recognized Hooker Killer

---------- Post added at 12:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:57 PM ----------

Yea im back been busy with getting out thw army and fighting with movers

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] marvinlh:
In no way did I disrespect anyone in this thread or on xda ever. You just got disrespectful calling me out of my name. I'm not a dik btw.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
First off you disrepected Ca1ne by asking on a eta second off you disrespected everyone who responded to you by no accepting their responses and replying with a smartass remark and third off you have disrespected the unwritten rule of devs and end ussers like yourself and myself NEVER ASK AN ETA!!!!! Thats why you got the responses and the remarks you got from all of us. And honestly i dont give a damn if you disrespect me im a grown ass man and ill brush that off like its dirt because honestly you dont know me nor i you and nothing thats said on the internet means anything to me. I was just letting you know that its not polite or in good taste and it IS disrectful to ask for etas. Now enough of this hibbly hoohah in this thread this is ca1nes dev thread and its been derailed by this shiit long enough.

Recognized Hooker Killer
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kevinrocksman:
....edited
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] marvinlh:
None of my post were disrespectful, if anyone felt disrespected I'm sure they would have spoke up. If I gave a smart reply, it was bcuz I received a smart reply but never got disrespectful. If it was a smart reply from ca1ine, I could understand and respect it more but smart remarks came ppl my question wasnted intended for. Even my post asking for an eta was polite and if ca1ne would have giving one or not, that would have been fine for me. Like I said in that post, I have and will continue to patiently wait. I meant no disrespect and no one can take what I said and put a meaning to it except for me. Thanks for your input tho. End of convo.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sloth:
Wb bro :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
@ kevin thanks for your service brother and sorry for your losses i wasnt teying to derail the thread if youvwould have read what u quoted i even stated that in there. I completely agree with you on the eta asking part tho. And as far as the being a vet i obviously wasnt bragging about it but like you stated your to lazy to read what he said soooo maybe you shoulda just left that part out.

Sorry ca1ne for derailing your thread further just had to clear somethings up....btw been checking that test folder things are looking tasty in there can't wait. :thumbup:

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kevinrocksman:
lol... ya my bad. Either way.

GREAT KERNEL!!!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] il Duce:
The crazy ends NOW!

All sides of this petty fight, all stop.

Further lunacy gets you all infracted.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
Sorry duce

Recognized Hooker Killer
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Zarboz:
Deear Ca1ne

look what cyanogen blessed us with :D

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_kernel_htc_msm8960/tree/jellybean/drivers/staging/prima

pps pps pps

prima_wlan.ko produced with every kernel now :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommytomatoe:
It isn't disrespectful to ask for an ETA. If asked in rude manner, then the notion can be considered distasteful and the correct course of action would be to ignore the person asking. However, the way the asker phrased his question was in no way distasteful or disrespectful. A simple, "no, not yet" would have sufficed.

Now, if a developer is too high on him/herself to consider ETA inquiries disrespectful then I suggest he/she rethink the approach. Ca1ne is a kind guy and I'm sure his answer would be that he is simply too busy taking care of his newborn :)

Thank you for your services gentlemen to this fine country. I do find the signature "recognized hooker killer" to be disrespectful, but please forgive me if it is some kind of inside joke :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Zarboz:
I'll have to send him a congrats gift I wondered why I hadn't seen him on gtalkrecently
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ca1ne:
Newborn and trying to buy a single family house to appease the wifey, for the current 3 family... 3rd floor tenant's boyfriend is bailing because she had a kid, so they may be both moving out, so that will be fun with my mortgage approval... lol...

With that said, you are right Tommy. You know me best. I do not get offended by anything really, been around different coding communities a long time and I know how things roll. What's hot today will lay forgotten in some webarchive years down the road, just like my work on counter-strike servers mods/addons, jedi knight academy servers mods/addons/maps/models, etc, etc...

What I hope for the members of this community, as I have in all past ones I've been part of is simply that everyone is lucky enough to walk away from here and look back with fond memories, and miss the community that they once were part of... There is not enough time in this world to get all worked up...

Had a few drinks, sitting at my lodge during a practice, so I'm a bit sentimental at the moment. I apologize for the deviation...