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[Nexus 7 General] Rafase282:
I agree with you but it looks like the OP just want to read his textbooks, play games, brow the internet, maybe take notes so a FREE iPad3 would be sweet. With the money he will save he can buy a case with keyboard, a stylus for better note taking and drawing and what not.
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
Since I got N7 I using it all the time and my iPad3 is just sitting on my bed side table. It is partly due to the fact that nexus 7 is the new toy but partly because you can do more things with nexus 7. Using PS3 controller for games is great. Rooting, custom roms, widgets and customization apps. All this is great. The web browsing is way fast on N7 as compared to iPad 3 however I like the elastic scroll of iPad 3. Sadly Google can not integrate elastic scrolling in android because Apple would sue them over their patent scrolling. WTF

I hate apple for that where they don't want to see anyone doing better work then apple and earning profits. The incremental updates on each iOS version is also laughable where most of the new features are imports from android or blackberry. I don't mind rather I feel happy that they include features from other platforms but calling them their own is like cheating and when someone try to use a feature which is invented by apple they would sue them.

Anyways I don't prefer Google or Apple as I just like innovation and technology so whoever make something better I would buy it. But apple should stop this patent war and it is hurting the industry rather than bringing anything good. As much as I like apple products, my sympathies are with Google as I want them to compete in the tablet market as well which is always healthy and better for consumers.
[Nexus 7 General] bigbird21:
N7 has superior hardware for the price (gps, nfc, for eg)

A5X........ dual core A9 1.0GHz 45nm PowerVR SGX543MP4 652 g

Tegra 3.... quad core A9 1.2GHz 40nm ULP GeForce 340 g

On android there are at least 5 competing CPU/GPU (qualcomm, Nvidia, TI, Samsung, marvell, plus chinese CPU;s) There are also more than a dozen giant handset makers competing. All these are driving down price while pushing performance up.

On the OS side, major section has recently be merged with main linux build, so that should speed up some item a little more.

From practical user perspective, we gets tons of tweaks, hacks, customization that are not readily available on iOS. for eg. I would say Android will get NDS emulator first before iOS.
[Nexus 7 General] tylerwatt12:
The sgx543mp4 is better than the tegra 3 though.
[Nexus 7 General] bigbird21:
It is faster in a sense of "double" of the same thing. It's designed to filled the huge pixel number without hick up. But in term of "gaming" experience, shader sophistication, physics, etc. aren't there. This thing cost silicone and what makes 'detail' in game.

So it's a bit like comparing big fire engine to pump a lot of water vs. las vegas water show pump. If you want to put out burning house and flood a swimming pool, a fire engine is your choice. But for gaming, which Nexus 7 doesn't have big screen, Tegra 3 sophisticated engine is the clear winner. It can do shader tricks that ipad 3 can't.

Of course if developer doesn't use it and user only play angry bird. Tegra 3 is completely pointless. But for things like mass effect, dead trigger, etc. You can see the coloring, shading, graphic details are a lot better. As more and more sophisticated games being release, this will show. (before Tegra 4 shows up that is)

You can play it longer too in small device. ... It'll be interesting to watch how A5X perform in 7 inch form factor.

http://androidandme.com/2011/01/new...ture-of-high-end-graphics-for-mobile-devices/

Early-Z support to filter out non-visible pixels

Integrated Pixel Shader and Blend Unit for programming flexibility and higher performance

Pixel Cache, Texture cache, Vertex, and Attribute Caches to reduce memory transactions

Unique 5x Coverage Sampling Anti-aliasing (CSAA) technique that achieves higher image quality at lower memory bandwidth

Advanced Anisotropic Filtering (AF) for high detail textures

A custom Memory Controller developed in-house that improves GPU performance and reduces power consumption

Numerous Power Management features for ultra low power consumptions.
[Nexus 7 General] reuthermonkey:
exactly. If you dont mind the size of the ipad, take the FREE ipad.

buuut

also true - if you dont like the larger size of the ipad, take the ipad, sell it, and get the N7.

In the end, dont turn down free electronics. ever.
[Nexus 7 General] barondebxl:
A free iPad? What the Hell are you waiting for? If I was a free nexus 7 then nexus 7 :confused:
[Nexus 7 General] Timbermill:
I've never seen the need to get an Apple device but I've just been given a new iPad Retina (for the purpose of making iBooks for a friend who is a music video director). I've played about with it for about half an hour, and I've never been so underwhelmed by a 'new toy'. It just feels so 'dumded down' :(
[Nexus 7 General] mi7chy:
Sounds like I'm not the only one. Going from Android to iOS is so restrictive, non-intuitive and inconsistent. Annoying that you have to go home before doing anything else. The UI is so inconsistent where some menus swipe up/down whereas others are left/right. The Settings menu is a bloody mess in comparison. Things like browser keyboard language settings aren't well hidden and are easily toggled by accident. Not only dumbed down but dumb indeed.
[Nexus 7 General] OneDeep:
I picked the iPad 3 over the N7 a couple weeks ago. I looked at most apps in both stores, compared, watched YouTube videos and just found a little more apps polished apps in the app store . A bit expensive but worth it. Adding a otterbox case to my iPad its pretty heavy but still looks good and protected. I found out how to add my DVDs to it using hand brake and works well. No rear camera on the N7 or SD card slot turned me off. Since that's what I like about Android being able to surf the file system like my phone and change SD cards on the fly. No tablet specific apps turned me off which I can get most apps on my phone. I still want the N7.
[Nexus 7 General] vash1053:
Xda is the wrong place to ask for an unbiased opinion on anything regarding Apple or any of their products.

Free iPad 3? That's a no brainer.
[Nexus 7 General] lakser:
I just sold my original ipad for about the cost of a 16 gb nexus.

Take the ipad use it for a year. Sell it and then you can get the next google tablet. You wont be disapointed. ios is great, and the retna screen is amazing.

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[Nexus 7 General] Logan_M:
If the iPad is free why would you not get it? Say what you want, it's still a good piece of equipment. I prefer the N7 to the iPad because of the size, it is noticeably heavier. When trying them out, side by side, I preferred the Nexus because of the weight. That is of course just hardware. I much prefer Android as an operating system as well.
[Nexus 7 General] mi7chy:
Smart move. iPad1 is a door stop with only 256MB DRAM and even if it gets iOS 6 it will be severely stripped of features due to limited memory.
[Nexus 7 General] lilphil240:
I would have thought the people at XDA would know there is no such thing as an iPad 3 ...
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
People at XDA know but it is better to call it iPad 3 instead of pathetic name of the new iPad which people would mistakenly think of a new iPad 1 because new means new and iPad 1 used to be called as ipad so the new iPad would mean many to new iPad first generation lolz.

Sorry to pop your bubble of being trying to look cool.
[Nexus 7 General] reuthermonkey:
Well, it's either "ipad 3" or "****burger"...

I think calling it ipad 3 is a bit nicer, although arguably less accurate.
[Nexus 7 General] nusairh:
the way i understand, these are not comparable devices. they have a different form factor.
[Nexus 7 General] ncvikingx97:
In my opinion, the iPad is a fashion trend. Everyone wants one. When it comes down to it, there isnt a comparison in hardware. Ipad 3 geekbench: 750-800

My nexus 7: 1500 ish

Now add NFC and some of the other awesome features, and there isn't to much of a comparison, other than the screen and the app store
[Nexus 7 General] TheMavic:
Take the free iPad 3, sell it, buy a Nexus 7 and have some extra cash for school.
[Nexus 7 General] androidkid311:
Wrong place to ask to be honest. I would go for the iPad 3. Just my opinion. :)
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
Yeah true, obviously most people here will say nexus. The ipad is free, and selling is a pain. Might as well just take the ipad for now
[Nexus 7 General] Verixx:
For what it's worth, I sold my iPad 2 because I don't use it at all compared to the N7. I did the same with my iPhone 4 and the Galaxy S II. I cannot stand iTunes. Android 4.1 is better than iOS 6. The form factor is just better.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 General] mario24601:
I have both, iPad screen is MUCH better but I use N7 more due to size. Its just easier to hold.
[Nexus 7 General] wynand32:
Hee hee, okay, I just had to say: that kind of sounds like saying, "There isn't too much of a comparison between a BMW 335i and a Toyota Camry, except for the engine and suspension."

I mean, seriously: I'm a fan of Android tablets, but own an iPad 3 along with a Nexus 7 and can say that 1) the iPad 3 screen is just a damn joy to use, period, because of beautiful colors, excellent contrast, and of course really sharp text, and 2) I'm really tired of hearing people say that iPad's huge lead in apps doesn't matter.

Folks, apps DO matter, and every Android tablet fan should be pushing Google to make it more lucrative for developers to make tablet-optimized versions of their apps. I think it's as silly for an Android tablet fan to say that apps don't matter as it was for webOS fans to say that the number of smartphone apps don't matter. That might be true when it's 400K apps vs. 600K apps, or whatever, like it is in Android vs. iOS smartphones, but it's certainly not true when we're talking a few thousand vs. 200K. iPad apps tend to be better made when they exist on both platforms, and there are a number of areas where Android tablets simply don't have usable apps at all.

I don't want to give Google a pass on this one. I mean, seriously: it's almost impossible to know how many tablet-optimized apps there are on Android, because they're so damn hard to find on Google Play. On the iPad, so a search for an app, and you're presented first with those that have iPad versions. How freaking hard is that? That's the kind of silly little stuff that Google could fix that would make the situation a hell of a lot better.
[Nexus 7 General] Theasa92:
GUYS I AM THE OP !!

I decided to go with the N7 - long live Open Source !

screw apple and their eco system, they are great .. but not for us deving-hungry geeks :)
[Nexus 7 General] veeman:
Are you kidding me?........

You could've sold the iPad 3 and bought the Nexus 7 and still have money left to spend on something.
[Nexus 7 General] TheMavic:
lol...

screw apple for being satan and killing kittens with fire, they are great
[Nexus 7 General] jalyn02:
Just a Android fanboy here! Nothing to see here folks! Keep it moving!:eek:
[Nexus 7 General] grassyloki:
Get iPad

Sell it

Buy nexus 7

Be happy

Sent from my SGH-T989 on Jelly Bean goodness!
[Nexus 7 General] jalyn02:
I thought that the moderators was putting a stop to this iPad vs Google everything crap? Own everything Apple and Google ever invented and dude I love them both! Grow a set and stop being a fanboy and go by tech specs...GOSH!

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Or buy a Nexus 7 and get what you paid for! Nexus 7 a plastic overheating beast against iPad 3 the king of the tablet hill!
[Nexus 7 General] jetsillinifan:
If you have an iPhone, ipad. if you have android n7. If you have neither (lol?) N7 and if you have no $ n7. So 75% of the time get n7 :)

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Winner of the day
[Nexus 7 General] Jbluna:
So...this thread can die now?

:p
[Nexus 7 General] tek.:
But that would be taking advantage of family :p
[Nexus 7 General] razerswift:
I own both a Nexus 7 16 GB and an iPad 3 64 GB WiFi

I don't use my iPad now. Actually in the process of selling my iPad.

However, I would still take the iPad and probably sell it then buy a Nexus with change.
[Nexus 7 General] Theasa92:
OP here, guys am not a fanboy, I've had Apple products before and they showed me nothing but perfection !

am just the type of a tinker .. i like to mess stuff up and dig deep, who knows maybe i'll release my own ROM in the future ! I chose the N7 coz it's better FOR ME !

and no I won't make my brother buy an ipad, sell it, get N7 .... I'll convince him to get me the N7 straight from the start :P all am here for today is ... can we please let this thread R.I.P ?!
[Nexus 7 General] slack04:
Funny -- same thing happened to me! I was offered $600 by a family member, so I had to go to an online forum to see if people thought I should take the money or give away $200. I mean, that's a tough call...

Edit: I just realized my post was way too easy to read. Here:

Funny -- same thing happened to me! I was offered $600 by a family member, so I had to go to an online forum to see if people thought I should take the money or give away $200. I mean, that's a tough call...​
[Nexus 7 General] pruthvik:
Screen n money matter here..... but colors appear kind of washed out..... even though screen is great

Other than that everything is great with nexus 7
[Nexus 7 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I'm a fanboy and proud of it. Nexus 7 ftw.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
I know the OP has already made up his mind but me personally I'm not a fanboy but I don't care for ios. Too simple, not customizable enough. The Nexus 7 is androids ipad no doubt. No it doesn't have a 9.5 inch retina display or a rear camera, but for android its a no brainer. Android hasn't had much success in tablets because of pricing and crappy support from manufacturers, but this is the game changer, and the new standard for android tablets.
[Nexus 7 General] Shano56:
wut u smokin, HBO GO is on google play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.HBO&hl=en

@OP, you can't beat free. take the ipad and either use it or sell it. I would suggest also getting a N7 either way..its a great tablet!
[Nexus 7 General] djkinetic:
If it were up to me, I'd take the free iPad 3 then buy a TF700t or Galaxy Note 10.1, the Nexus 7 is a great device no doubt and I dont regret getting it one bit, but it does have its limitations,mainly no expandable external SD, yes OTG is available but its not nearly as convenient as a built in external storage slot (you can't charge and use OTG simultaneously atm), also a smaller screen...it really depends on how comfortable you are with the 7 inch form factor, I have both a 7 and 10 inch tab, for most things 7 inches gets the job done. But some people do prefer/need the 10 inch display, what it comes down to in the end, is whether you need a bigger screen, external SD, and which ecosystem you think will be more enjoyable to you.
[Nexus 7 General] wynand32:
First, yes, it's on Play. But it's not available yet for the Nexus 7, which of course is what's relevant here. Maybe it's because of Jelly Bean.

Second, the HBO Go app is a great example of why the iPad app ecosystem is better. The iPad version has some very cool interactivity features that provide show info while the video is playing. I really enjoyed it with Game of Thrones, for example.

The Android app just plays the video. So, even apps that exist on both platforms are quite often much better on the iPad.

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If the Galaxy Note had higher than 1280x800, I'd get it over every other tablet on the market, iPad or Android. That pen adds another nice dimension for notetaking, which I miss from my Tablet PC days. However, man, that text sure will look blocky after staring at the iPad 3 and Nexus 7 screens. I can't stand my wife's Galaxy Tab 10.1 screen for just that reason.
[Nexus 7 General] :
I don't understand what the question here is? One of the is FREE lol, I would take the free one xD I like the n7 better but you can't beat free
[Nexus 7 General] ycfreeman:
beware n7 quality varies, for mine the screen just cracked itself, there wasn't any pressure or external force, it just cracked suddenly, while 5 minutes ago i was still using it. i don't know if that's one of the "manufacturing fault" for early adopters, but i guess it would cost me another 100+ to repair.
[Nexus 7 General] mi7chy:
If you want a useful device get the Nexus 7 otherwise if you want something to just stares at then iPad3.
[Nexus 7 General] kingofthebraves:
Exactly why I got my Nexus 7, the ipad 3 may have a better screen but it comes down to usability. IOS is a frustrating experience with no integration or communication at all between apps. The N7 may have a dimmer and low res screen but it's perfect for reading comic books!!
[Nexus 7 General] wasnt:
What do I want to buy? A Ford Taurus or a BMW 7 series? SOMEONE HALP MEH.

Why not compare two similar devices and not two that are in different categories?
[Nexus 7 General] alex xander:
Being half the price based on the 16gb model, surely the n7 is the best choice.
[Nexus 7 General] regalpimpin:
I wouldn't recommend anyone get anything made by apple. But if you are in the market, better get it soon.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/20/motorolas-new-patent-lawsuit-against-apple-the-details/

BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[Nexus 7 General] veeman:
You shouldn't be proud of having a closed mindset.
[Nexus 7 General] kingofthebraves:
I was debating on this myself and the only reason you should get an ipad is the screen and the apps, everything else including USABILITY belongs to the Nexus 7. I remember owning an ipad 1 before and I rarely used it because it was so big and difficult to carry around, sure it could do everything but it was boring as hell!

If you're coming from a device with super high res like the HOX, Gnote, SGS3 or iphone 4 , you will definitely be bothered by the lower resolution screen of the N7 BUT give it a few days and your eyes will easily accustom itself to it.
[Nexus 7 General] swisstourist:
low resolution...?

n7 has high resolution. You don't see pixels.
[Nexus 7 General] Theasa92:
I don't even see much of a pixels on my 3.2" @ 180 ppi HTC screen, the N7 has a really crisp screen, admitted by Chris Pirillo and he's an apple fanboy !

anyways guys, get ready to have my sig : posted using N7 this thursday :cyclops:
[Nexus 7 General] Shano56:
Ah okay - thanks for clarifying. For some reason I read it to think that you meant only available for ipad and not for android.
[Nexus 7 General] Theasa92:
Check out my signature.

I assure you the GC was spent in a perfect way ;) mini motor is amazing BTW guys.
[Nexus 7 General] jamesst20:
Hi,

I had the iPad 2 and I sold it to get a Nexus 7. Why? Because I never had experience with other mobile OS then iOS and I wanted to try Android.

Which I prefer now?

I would say Android. Even if the iPad is a great quality product and iOS is a great OS, never I will go back to it since Android allow a bigger user experience. On iOS the only thing you can install is what is on the Apple Store. Ok, yes you can Jailbreak but you have to wait for months every single update before it gets released! Also, you cant modify kernel, flash custom os or whatever. You can't really customize iOS or add extras features. Other then that umm.. you can't code your own application (which is fine since Objective-c as the worse syntax I've never seen.) if you dont pay 100$ every year. Also, you will notice that there are more apps in the Android store. You will also see that often, Android apps have more functionality then the same apps on iOS. Also, on Android you have more control on your hardware, overclocking CPU, GPU etc..

Just to make no confusion, I'm not a Apple hater at all, I just discovered Android was the future
[Nexus 7 General] 84tdan:
First, I'm not an apple fanboy or android fanboy.

I had several iOS devices, iphones, macs.... and an ipad 2, i played the hell out of it and bought a lot of apps. I also use android since the nexus one, nowadays I'm using a Galaxy SII as my main phone....(yes iTunes I hate you)

Sure the iPad is a great device. Extremely well built, and a lot of tablet specific apps. And its 10" big....

I also used a bit some android tablets from friends... xooms, samsungs and asus 10" tablets (can't remember specific names now) and every one was crap. Slow as hell, lag, lag and big 10" things....

I paid 500 us dollar's for my 16gb nexus 7, because here in Brazil this is the only way to put your hands on new devices like the nexus 7 (gray market). After so many positive reviews, I wanted really to see this badass in action.

And you know what? I never touched my iPad 2 again, I also use my galaxy sII a lot less. I never carried my iPad 2 with me (only when I had appointment's with clients), but the nexus 7 is so portable that I take it with me every day.

It has no 3g, but who cares? I use my SII as hotspot. It has no "retina" display. But the HD resolution for the 7" size is just enough. For me battery life is great, It makes trough a heavy use day and at the end of the day I'm on 30% battery.

And this thing is fast. Smooth. Jelly bean is the best mobile OS period. It has not so many tablet specific apps? Sure, but this is not a problem for a 7" device. They scale up very well, and are not stretched like iphone apps on iPad.

I can't stop using it. I think the size is the sweet spot for tablets. Not too big, not to small. Gaming on a nexus 7 is just perfect. Now I feel totally awkward playing on an 10" ipad.

And the best of all? You don't need iTunes.
[Nexus 7 General] wtfdroidlol:
Really I think the fact that the iPad is free would seriously sway my decision. Otherwise I'm android all the way.
[Nexus 7 General] hkpuipui99:
I vote Nexus 7 for the size, but if against an imaginary iPad mini...
[Nexus 7 General] jamesst20:
True lol, iTunes is the worse apps I've never seen, it kept deleting my iPad contents without telling me
[Nexus 7 General] maysider:
it is easy....if you do not want to support such rotten companies like Apple, do not buy any Apple product....

anyway, Android is much better:

http://goo.gl/ZuTmL

http://goo.gl/04pud

so with iOS you will be a few years behind all the time
[Nexus 7 General] noobandriod:
GOD! I hate iTunes. It is such a chore to use.
[Nexus 7 General] turdbogls:
Holy Fanbois.....this is crazy.

Look i LOVE my Nexus 7...its a fantastic device.

but if i had the decision to pay nothing, and get an iPad 3 or pay $250 to get a nexus 7....i would have to take the iPad 3.

at the very least you could try out the iPad, and sell it or trade it if you didn't like it.

but seriously....the iPad is a great device. sure the OS is a little.....bland. but there is no denying that the "it just works" clause in in play here and there is no denying the "retina" display is just beautiful.

I would take the iPad....i wouldn't like it, but it is an awesome device and its free.

and also, why not get both? not like the price is any different. they are 2 different devices with 2 different uses.
[Nexus 7 General] jaydon34:
Gotta love the people who come to a nexus 7 forum and then ask which device we prefer. Obviously the large majority will be partial to the nexus 7. So with that being said IOS has way better applications and android has a way better OS. I'd prob take the free iPad.
[Nexus 7 General] Jeff_in_LA:
This is some kid trolling. Pass a freebie 5 hundred dollar device and pay out of pocket for a different one. Yea right, I have a bridge to sell you too.
[Nexus 7 General] barondebxl:
I'm selling my IPAD 3 and getting a nexus 7. I've owned all 3 generation of iPads and while I think it's the best tablet out there, I wanna try something different.
[Nexus 7 General] oaba09:
If you like reading ebooks then get the nexus 7 because based on my experience, I find that reading in a 7" tablet is much more comfortable because of the weight and screen size.