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[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
+1

It's been pretty OK since the update.

And I don't think that moving all data to an external microSD card is such a good idea, I'd rather depend on internal storage, I want my SD to be totally removable.

I'd like to know more about this SQL patch though, but they don't provide much info really.

BTW, there's a typo in your link (no colon after http).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pretoriano80:
I agree with you, my tablet also work quiet nice with .26 but if you look at the benchmarks the internal storage on our tablet is very slow compared with other old and new devices.

With the above kernel mode we could use external storage for /DATA and /CACHE partition and gain a substantial speed increase.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pretoriano80:
Here's more info regarding that sql patch
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Ok, so this simply disables fsync, not something I'll be doing anytime soon, at least until the reboot issues are

completely

solved (I'll be happy with 30 days uptime).

Plus, this is not the greatest idea on a device that had some I/O issues, as it seems sync is even more needed with it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] paysen:
I don't think the infinity needs an external SD card, it's fast enough and even scoring better than his prime with external SD card.

This is my stock infinity:
[Asus Transformer TF700] urrlyx:
That's not really testing the part that fails horribly though. Where our storage performs miserably is random writes. It's around 40-50 IOPS and under 200kB/s. Absolutely ridiculous for a flagship device.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=29660695&postcount=25
[Asus Transformer TF700] dalingrin:
I'm amazed that folks are happy with the performance on .26. It is better than .22 but performance is still pretty terrible for me compared to my other devices. If you guys use Browser2ram or disable fsync in sqlite you'll realize just how slow this thing still is. In my opinion, buying a fast microSD card(harder than you think for random access) and moving /data and /cache is the best option.
[Asus Transformer TF700] pixel-painter:
I am noticing pretty slow browsing, pages load terribly slowly. I've tried chrome, Firefox and built in browser. While I agree there has been some improvement, i still get pretty noticeable stutters in ICS.

I mean this tablet has pretty much the best specs on the market...quad core, clocked @ 1.6 and a gig of ram with a substantial internal hd. It would seem to me that there is still a lot of untapped horse power.

That said, early adopters of new technology should often expect some quirks at the beginning, i know i did. Asus has always been great about getting updates out fast for other hardware i have purchased.

I personally feel that with a little patience, we will not only get our fixes and jelly bean, but some great devs making new ROM'S that will really showcase the performance we can expect from this device.
[Asus Transformer TF700] paysen:
But it's not getting better with the partition moving?! Haven't seen a single Androbench screenshot which shows a big improvement on random writes.
[Asus Transformer TF700] urrlyx:
Which is why we don't think moving it helps at all.
[Asus Transformer TF700] paysen:
So why are you quoting my post with the benchmark where I say that moving to the SD card wouldn't be helpful for the TF700? :angel:
[Asus Transformer TF700] urrlyx:
Only because that benchmark doesn't show the problem in question. Wasn't trying to disagree with you. =)
[Asus Transformer TF700] paysen:
Thats what I misunderstood :silly: So when moving to a fast sd card won't help - maybe a software fix can help there to boost it up :fingers-crossed:
[Asus Transformer TF700] cctaylor410:
Im not complaining cause i fricking love this tablet but shouldnt these issues been caught during development and testing by Asus? I understand a few small issues may slip through but not something as glaring as some of the I/O problems. Did they not download and install an app while multitasking? lol. Dont get me wrong i am in no way bashing them and would still buy this tablet if i could do it over again.... I'm just not very familiar with the R@D process for something like this. Do they just accept a few flaws in order to bring it to market as soon as possible and work hard to push updates?

Sent from my unlocked and rooted TF700T using the XDA Premium App
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pretoriano80:
To be honest this is 1 million dollars question but only Asus (QA department maybe?) can answer. Anyway they already did a good job with the latest update and compared with previous firmwares the tablet is much better and the lag issue many users seems to be gone.

The bad part is the internal memory overall performance because imo that is just poor hardware quality and you don't expect to have such a poor hardware on a high-end device like that.

So if Asus doesn't prove the contrary (but i hope they do) this become a pure hw design flaw and there's not much we could do about it... we will have a nice "bottleneck" on this tablet.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Dees_Troy:
The poor random I/O performance is not limited to the Infinity. The entire line of Transformer tablets is plagued with this issue. Most likely Asus is just making a poor choice when they choose their emmc chips. Part of the problem is that emmc is the same stuff that goes into a sdcard and sdcards are generally designed with fast sequential performance with little regard for IOPs and random performance since most sdcards end up in cameras where most files are 1MB+ in size and you're usually only writing one file at a time.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jcompagner:
I think Dees_Troy is correct, we just don't really have a full fledged SSD controller in tablets yet

The controller is more like the first gen ssd controllers that we had for sdd hdds

I guess with software optimization by ordering as much as possible the access and maybe caching more in the normal ram it could be a bit better

But in the end i think it is just pure hardware, we don't have Marvel or Sandforge ssd level controllers yet in tablets, that would make a bit more expensive and power hungry i guess.

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[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
The sad part is my laptop HDD (not SSD) has 10 times Infinity's random write and one would expect more from a flash chip.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pretoriano80:
We don't even dream about having an SSD performance but benchmark results were only compared against older tablets/smartphones and Infinity scores even lower than my 3years old Acer Liquid.I'm curious how my Iphone 4S will perform but i don't know if there's an app for that (non censored by Apple :D ) .
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DanceOff:
I see many people on xda posting ridiculous methods of freeing up Ram and frying the phone:D

I was once one of them, but its too much nuisance to tolerate when its again and again repeated, I found this very cool thread for noobs:

http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hammer_Of_The_Gods:
Hi,

LOL...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1812620

But... wait... Another thread about memory management... ouch, do you think that the noobs will read it or use it?

:)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmd512:
In before lock.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pard0ned:
Absolutely pointless post. ^^

Interesting article. Thanks op.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dfMails:
Thanks for post. Many users don't know this
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidNarwhal:
I'm waiting for someone to come in to this thread and try to tell us why you need 50 gigs of Ram and how his US variant with 2 gigs of RAM is far superior to the international, I own both so before this even comes to light lets be clear,clean,cut and dry the international version is smoother than the US variant no matter how many of you RAM fanatics want to tell me that 2 gigs is master race. Further Android manages RAM very well on it's own you can probably run just about anything with 512mb of RAM, but a whole gigabyte that's just butter on my toast. I hope people will actually read this thread and learn how their devices work instead of just yelling about how they need more RAM and wonder why they have no battery life when a task manager constantly clears the cache. I would appreciate it if one of the more informed members of XDA can make a simple write up of how Android manages RAM and why more free RAM is not always better :highfive:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stierney:
Whilst I agree with the comments here it sometimes helps by not being rude to people who aren't as knowledgeable with android as some of us and who are asking questions like I have seen in some threads.

Whilst the adage free RAM is wasted RAM is generally correct with android there is no harm in freezing of uninstalling apps that you know you don't use.

For example I never use svoice and chat-on so there is no harm in freezing those or preventing them from loading if they will never be used.

Whilst unused RAM IS wasted RAM,,, RAM used by unused apps is also wasted ram ;)

Go easy on the noobs and have a good weekend.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidNarwhal:
While I do agree with this post no one here was implying that you shouldn't uninstall or Freeze bloatware, best wishes. :)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] graffixnyc:
Ram, that's made by Dodge right? :D
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imranb_001:
I was cursing sammy for not providing 2 gigs in s3 (int)but now it seems fine. But since ram is cheaper what in the world would had hapnd if sammy had provided 2 gigs.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidNarwhal:
If I'm not mistaken the architecture of the version supporting HSPA does not support 2gb, that's why the Korean variant is slightly different and has 2 gigs of RAM, essentially It wouldn't have made any difference, the 32nm a9 process is about as far as it's going to go. :) (also I think the Korean version has 2 gigs of Ram due to LTE taking up more resources)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacksonwwl:
op, maybe it is not the issue of free-ing up RAM.. it also save up some battery...

eg: before you went to slp... make sure all are shut down.. and hv a minimal prog open for sync/phone..

of course now all OS have RAM optimism, but then sometime/some of the OS are not so profession on this.

most of the time due to the OS rooted/JB, which will have different methodology for optimizing the RAM.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] disclaimernotice:
Well, you can't deny the fact that more ram equals better multitasking. With less than 200mb of free ram after several days of use, my browser has to reload whenever I minimise it to check messages. But that wouldn't be the case if I had more free ram, ie when I've just rebooted the phone.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DanceOff:
I hope they do
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quattro_rs:
If 2gb is not necessary on a phone, then explain having a quad core phone?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guhvanoh:
Apparently, you've never met the Joneses and don't know how hard it is to keep up with them, let alone surpass them...
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jody2k:
Will your car also have more performance when you go to the gas station and fill it at max rather than half? Thats what this thread is about
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] a67543210:
If more RAM doesn't matter, then why do I get booted out of Tintin and other heavy gameloft games whilst having had to run other program before the games were started? The only way to play without the game crashing is first be clearing cache. Would it be low RAM, Samsung's fault(no good optimizations), or gameloft's fault(no good optimizations)?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jody2k:
I would say both ;) in my experience games from gameloft are always having poor support for samsung devices, and many other also
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quattro_rs:
I'm just saying having more ram would make the gs3 more future proof especially when games and apps get bigger and better and more resource hungry, plus ram is cheap and it wouldn't hurt adding 1 more gb......
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidNarwhal:
seriously does no one listen? I just explained the architecture that is in the HSPA quadcore international does not support more than 1 gigabyte. it was never an option to begin with. if you really fancy another gigabyte of RAM you can always swap it for a stateside S4.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quattro_rs:
Saying it does not support more than one gb is not explaining....

Anyway I bet the next gnote and gs will have more ram.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tectas:
It would be the same with more ram, because more ram doesn't mean more free ram, there would only be more cached and you would get the same result, just a bit later. The problem is for my opinion just about priorities and when, which app gets killed and this isn't easy to set up, because it comes down to personal preferences in the end.

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[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidNarwhal:
okay let me try and break this down to really simple terms then. The core architecture that makes the phone tick on a hardware basis would not benefit from the addition of RAM, it simply is not supported. and yes you're right future models will probably have more RAM in them. but more RAM does not equal more functionality seeing as how my GS1 with 512mb can do almost everything my GS3 can. Have a nice day I hope this helps :good:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] habs101:
I've noticed that on my Rogers Canadian version with 2gb of ram, that a lot more things are loaded into the RAM... from a clean boot

It is loaded at 1.3 and the rest about 600MB is Free

while the international one my sister has seems more efficient and loading apps from boot.

I wonder why more things are loaded on the american version at start....
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quattro_rs:
lol your earlier post was mush simpler than this, I love learning new stuff that's why I asked for a more technical explanation on this hardware/software limitations, and yes I read the link in the op but there is nothing about hardware.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] racerex:
Wrong. Please try again. The 2GB of RAM is not because LTE takes up more resources but rather to enhance the multi-tasking capabilities. Proof is in the fact that the Galaxy Note 10.1 has 2GB of RAM, no cellular radios, and the exact same quad core Exynos 4412 as the international Galaxy SIII.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/quad-core-...ands-in-our-office-shows-what-its-capable-of/

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_10_1_n8010-4670.php

Also, even the HSPA version has 2GB of RAM...

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_10_1__n8000-4573.php

So basically Samsung has realized that 2GB of RAM does indeed improve the user experience and has shipped every Exynos 4412 and Qualcomm 8960 high end system (except the original international GSIII) with 2GB of RAM. These are the facts.

---------- Post added at 01:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:27 PM ----------

No one listens to you because you are not correct. See my post above where I showed that both the HSPA and WiFi versions of the Galaxy Note 10.1 are shipping with the Exynos 4412 and 2GB of RAM. Samsung has clearly seen the light either through internal testing or by listening to these forums and decided to ship new designs using Exynos 4412 w/ 2GB of RAM.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidNarwhal:
You do realize that these chipsets were tweaked after the Galaxy s3 was released in a little known thing called the Korean variant the original chipset for international version just simply will not work with 2 gigs I would recommend keeping your lips sealed unless you know what you're talking about. If they could have put 2 gigs of RAM on the phone wouldn't they have? All the devices you have listed are NOT EVEN OUT YET. The chipsets have been tweaked to accomodate the 2 gigabytes of RAM and the LTE radio. your extreme ignorance and attempt to put me down is pathetic, stay off of XDA if this is how you plan to treat members.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MemoryController:
Please explain the chipsets have been tweaked. It's the same architecture plus SoC design right? I don't see how it didn't support physical ram >1GB and then it did. The note 2 will still ship with smdk4412 right? Saying that the chipset has been tweaked sounds as much stupid as saying Macs are better because apple has "fine tuned" the hardware..... Please state facts and references

Sent from my GT-I9100 running CM10
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] racerex:
Not sure about the Canadian version but the International phones have ~800MB of "free" RAM after all the video/system/low level crap. US phones have 1.62GB of "free" RAM after all the video/system/low level allocation crap. From there depending on which ROM you run and how many active widgets and apps you have running at startup, you can then figure out how much extra RAM is available on a fresh boot.

For example my US AT&T phone after a fresh boot uses 521MB and therefore has 1.1GB left over. And this is on the STOCK ROM which explains the great multi-tasking capabilities out of the box.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidNarwhal:
The Korean variant is I believe .5 mm thicker or so due to the LTE radio and additional RAM, also after reviewing heavily the SoC is definitely the same, I'm not sure what tweaks or changes they applied, but LTE radio was not part of the original design nor was the 2 gigabytes of RAM. It may have something to do with battery life with the LTE chipset (not very good)

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...orlds-first-quad-core-LTE-smartphone_id31568/

I will research this further and try and figure out if it was truly an architecture flaw or if Samsung didn't feel it was necessary etc. or maybe 2 gigs of RAM had a heat issue there are many things to consider but clearly there was a reason for not including 2 gigabytes of RAM with the original international. Thanks for keeping me honest mate I made assumptions without fully researching. In my mind though this is almost definitely due to some flaw in the original design of the SoC whether it be location of certain parts on the board or RAM being too hot. If nothing else it was a cost issue (if this was the case I'll be irritated considering the price of the handset) anyways cheers I'll continue to research the topic.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] racerex:
Your responses are not based on facts but rather assumptions and guesses. I give you anecdotal proof and your response is that the chipsets have been "tweaked". You're funny.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quattro_rs:
What iv learned thus far is there is no valid reason the international s3 getting 2gb ram, even if it meant 1% overall empeovent is acceptable by me.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SlimJ87D:
Would you pay 100 dollars more for %1 improvement?

I'm sure it would be much more than 1%, but I'm not sure I would pay anymore for my phone for extra ram than I had to already.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quattro_rs:
Gudging by desktop memory you can get a 4gb ddr3 stick with high frequency from a known brand very cheap, so maybe an extra 20~30$....

I'll pay that for 1% any day.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bsmith1051:
I just bought a new Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 (10.1) and I'm really disappointed with the ICS UI. It just seems totally cluttered and awkward. I'm right-handed so I have to reach across the screen to press BACK. I keep accidentally hitting the ScreenCap button (which is kinda hilarious because I don't always realize it happened until my attempts to 'click' on the screenshot result in black drawing/tracings). I'm also disappointed that so many Android apps are tablet-unaware but that's not Samsung's fault.

Anyways, what other choices do I have? (Don't say ipad; f@!# Apple) I'm comfortable with rooting but have no idea what's available on the Tab 2. Jelly Bean is supposed to come out next week so I'll probably wait for that, but I'm not hopeful that the UI will change much.

- Can I edit the default UI? First and foremost I want to get rid of that unwanted ScreenCap button, but I couldn't find anything in the Settings to let me remove it.

- Can I install an alternate theme or launcher?

- finally, are there any ROMs for the Tab 2 and do they have a different UI than stock? (Do I even need a ROM specific to the Tab 2 or can I use ROMs for the original Tab 10.1 ? )

Thank you for any suggestions!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] stinky73:
How do you mean "cluttered"? If you're talking about the homescreens just delete the items you don't want...

Basically all the tabs have the same screen layouts and app drawers so they are all as awkward as each other but at least with android you can place your app shortcuts and widgets wherever you like on the screen....

Your next point "I'm right handed".... if you only have one hand then I'm sorry to hear of your disability and sorry to say that there is no way of of changing the layout of the control buttons short of a complete re-write of the system which nobody would be inclined to do... and I appreciate that it could be difficult for you to reach across the screen :( If you have two hands then it should be easy enough to use your brain to tell your left thumb to press the return button ;)

Screen capture button cannot be removed but if you're happy rooting then install titanium backup and freeze the app, that way when you touch the button nothing will happen...

You can install alternate themes and launchers if rooted by installing roms from the dev section and depending on what they are based that might remove the screen cap...

The tab2 forum is here http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1596 and there are roms there I believe. I think there was some chat a while back with people mixing and matching roms from original tab and tab2 but I cannot swear to that..

Have fun and hope you get what you want from your tab2 :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jpl69:
Settings -> Display -> Fast start

(don't know if this is the right translation because i have it in portuguese)

You can reprogram screenshot button (disable it or even assign an app)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] stinky73:
Nice one! Didn't know that was there ;) fast start = quick launch in English menu
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] DanielNTX:
Chameleon Launcher: http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/02/chameleon-android-launcher-beta/
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Panos_dm:
Apex launcher. I think is the best for ics. Or Nova launcher according to others. Make your choice. That said, the stock touchwiz is a major upgrade from HC imo.

Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bsmith1051:
Thank you for all the replies. (I'm ignoring the insulting one.) I will look into the Fast Start settings. I had thought that was the pop-up shortcuts when you swipe from the bottom>up.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Adhityairvan:
I think you can use apex or nova launcher:good: it's he best homescreen replacer for ics
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] -Mod-:
Settings -> Display -> Quick launch.... ?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xdapao3:
There are settings for that too...

TouchWiz is, IMO, the best stock tablet UI today.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kmaq:
yes thats the settings to reprogram the screen capture button to any other action.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] alien.col:
Nova launcher

Try nova launcher, and it's free and a LOT smoother.

Things will change though when Jelly Bean arrives to your tab.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ctirl:
Try cm10....no touchwiz......really smooth