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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
It's more aimed towards battery conservation (4 A7 processors and 4 A15 processors). Don't know how that's gonna preserve battery life, but we'll see what happens
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
I didn't know that.

I guess I'm gonna get a galaxy nexus if I can. Sgs3 if I can't. I don't think I can do HTC again after the way they dealt with this phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Macrodroid:
Lmao...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
S3 is wonderful.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
I honestly can't wait to be free of my HTC woes. Only Samsung devices for me....loving my GTab2 also
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HillsRider:
Nexus 4 for me. Too bad Straight Talk is turning out to be a little less than truthful on a few things.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
My real dilemma is this. I don't love VZW because of they way they lock down phones and always find new ways to charge more money. But, AT&T is no cheaper, and has less than stellar coverage around me. T-mobile can't get a call at my house, and I'm really weary of Sprint's coverage. I'm not happy with how HTC handled our phone/updates. Looking at Verizon, and considering my budget, the two phones I am willing to consider are the GS3 and the DNA. I expect both will go free soon. The DNA is amazing and the screen is incredible. The GS3 is a nice phone, but I just can't fall in love with it. On the other hand the GS3 actually has expandable storage and more development going on. I can't figure out which one I'd rather go for, price being equal (free probably).
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
If it wasn't for Verizon having spectacular coverage and unlimited data, I would've gone to Sprint or AT&T (more towards Sprint since AT&T has horrible coverage back at home, but excellent coverage near my college town). Sprint is alright at both places overall, but the data speeds make me cry with frustration.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] davidsinn:
Could you elaborate on straight talk? I'm thinking about switching to it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HillsRider:
I haven't had any problems myself, but the main complaint I see is the data. Most agree that if you stay under 100 MB/day and 1.5 GB/month they won't throttle your data. Some have gone over this with no problems and others have been throttled for less. My main complaint is that there aren't any defined limits and they can slap you down for any reason they see fit.

If you are a light data user like myself they you really shouldn't have any problems. :good:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
The process of upgrading to a new device is just over the horizon for me. If I can get a galaxy nexus I will. I will obviously be using this device for the next two years and I was wondering if given how quickly android is growing, how much faster processors are getting, and how many new features we gain when android releases new versions; how long do you think it will take for the gnex to become obsolete like nexuses that came before it. If the amount time is less than two years I probably wont get the gnex.

Thanks.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
Dat signature.....
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
So galaxy nexus then?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Addiso:
Why don't you wait for the s4?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
I'm impatient, plus I want a nexus.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jettadieselguy:
I'm going to see what they want for the S4, since I'm not up till May.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
This.

I don't think I'll be able to get it until the end of April anyway because my wife is upgrading as well.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HillsRider:
There have been some rumors that the S4 might not get Cyanogenmod support. Won't be much for ROMs if that is true.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
Best Buy had the GNex for $1 with upgrade. Plus all the dev support, it was a no brainer for me
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
I was happily out of my contract until my wife convinced me to sign up again to get the DInc2 for "free".

Granted I was at wit's end with my OG Droid.

-MROM on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Addiso:
For the international version tho since devs don't wanna work with exynos. The us variants are gna get cm support. There is plenty of rom development for the Usls variants actually quite a plenty to look at, even work with devs saying they are moving on to the s4.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
Best buy website currently has it for free with a new contract. This will be what I do in a few weeks if it is still being offered
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsua98:
The s4 looks almost the same as the s3

octo-processor? WHY!?! EVEN MOST PC'S DON'T NEED OR HAVE OCTO-CORE PROCESSORS!

@thenaut

Since gnex roms are built from google source, I would assume that devs would find a way to hack together a rom if google stopped providing source code for it. CM is always there too.

Edit: I can imagine someone just saying, "My S4 runs an eighth of a nanosecond faster than the S3 because of this awesome octo-core processor!"
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
I doubt the S4 will actually use all 8 processors (except for benchmarking apps) because the battery drain would be pretty massive otherwise. I'm sure that only 4 cores are going to be used (4 are ARM Cortex A15 based and the other 4 are ARM Cortex A7 based). The other 4 are battery savers (don't know how that's gonna work out, but it's Samsung...)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
This is what I'm thinking. I think the nexus one has a hacked up jelly bean ROM.

Thanks
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Hell, the G1 has a freaking JB ROM (though it's glitchy as f*ck)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
I just know that even pre-root I am loving this phone. Just ordered a suh-weet Trident case and Zagg screen protectors off Amazon for like $30
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsua98:
I couldn't resist rooting my gnex-within the first few minutes of getting it I had already unlocked the bootloader flashed teh custom recovery and flashed a new rom :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Same here with my s3. Within maybe an hour of getting it I had it rooted after setting it up. Most of that time was trying to read up on root guides.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HillsRider:
I just retired an original Incredible running Evervolv 4.2.2 on it. A little laggy but stable. Developers do some amazing work!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gersto:
Sadly my Dinc2 took a dive in the hot tub, so im on a DROIDX as I still have 2 months left before I can upgrade.

Honestly i cant stand these bigger phones. I prefer the profile of the Dinc2 so im considering the Incredible 4G, since there is a ViperROM and I can swap batteries, or going with the Razor M.

I could buy the 4G for 150 on ebay but wife isn't happy about spending that money if I can get it free in a few months.

According to the 4th Verizon store rep, the other 3, including customer service, were utter jerks, both of these phones are gonna be free with a new contract by then.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Lol, am I the only odd one? I rooted my S3 after a month passed by. Haha. Guess it was to get used to the touchwiz interface and then phase into AOSP
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jettadieselguy:
If you get yours at the end of April or begining of May would you let me know what you think about it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
Just rooted the GNex.....very easy process. Nothing like the Inc2. Now I'm downloading JB AOKP. Any other suggestions for ROMs from those of you on this device? I trust my former Inc2 brethren fully ::cool::
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
CarbonROM? It has a lot of features from Paranoid Android, AOKP, and CyanogenMod. :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsua98:
do atom rom with ak kernel

You'll never go back
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
Either of these have native hotspot working?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
I do believe carbon does (haven't tried it though).
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NeverSeparate:
I believe I'm getting a galaxy nexus today. I take it you guys who went from this phone to that weren't disappointed. Is the picture quality decent compared to this one? I know it's a 5mp vs 8mp.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Dude, megapixel count doesn't mean anything unless you have a really good sensor on it.

The Galaxy Nexus's camera is nothing to write home about, but it's still a good camera thanks to the features it has over the DInc2. IMO, the quality isn't bad, but it's not good either.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NeverSeparate:
Yeah I know, that's why I asked because that isn't the only factor. I just wanted some reassurance I guess. I'm buying it used so I can keep my unlimited plan. And I figured the best people to ask are those that made me the same switch.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
Ak meaning Air Kernel?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bsmitty83:
No different kernel , look here for ak kernel

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31467636

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] SuFuS01dier:
Mine lasted about 5 hours in stock form:)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NeverSeparate:
I got my gnex today. I'm doing my research now on root methods. So far I think I will like the phone. The camera is as previously described. It isn't special but definitely good enough. Now I'm wondering how to manage searching threads for 2 devices. :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bsmitty83:
No joke when i got mine i powered it on to check the build version then rooted it lol , i don't even remember the stock boot animation. It took me a sec to get used to on board storage , but i definitely don't miss my SD card , the gnex has been so solid for the few months I've owned it i almost wanna sell it and get a nexus 4 , i just cant believe it tops out at 16gig storage. Enjoy that gnex and have fun trying to decide what to flash first

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NeverSeparate:
I gots me a 32g :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
The 32GB models are getting pretty cheap. I was actually planning to get the Galaxy Nexus for a while ( if I didn't get my S3) haha
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NeverSeparate:
2 older ps3 games with 180 for phone otter defender extended battery (and stock battery) and mhl HDMI adapter. Not bad I think. See them go for 175 or so on eBay regularly.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bsmitty83:
Definitely not bad , i got a 32gb brand new off eBay with a bodyglove case and extra extended battery and spare battery door for 220$

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
I will say though sometimes the inc2 camera does surprise me, i was at a show the other night and got some impressive shots. (Well it looks good on my N7 at least)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NeverSeparate:
Completely agree. Especially the sense camera. HTC definitely has good camera tech in my opinion. My wife just had some stuff developed that she took with her dinc2 and they came out really nice.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
I haven't tried a sense ROM yet, but as you said I've heard good things.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NeverSeparate:
If I could have had a aosp ROM with the sense camera I would have loved it. Not much about sense that I like over aosp other than that.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
I'm gonna post this over in the Nexus forum later but thought I'd get a quicker reply here....

Last night i went to bed with 35% battery with WiFi and 4g off and i woke up 7 hrs later with 10%. This seems like intense battery drain to be doing nothing.

How do you GNex users save battery?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NeverSeparate:
I just got mine so I'm no expert on the device, but maybe turn it off? Or you could charge it at night while you are sleeping. :confused:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
Well its just that more often than not my phone is my alarm....and i just happened to not have my charger last night. I charged to full at about 4pm yesterday and it was at 10% at 10 am this morning after what was supposed to be ~6 hrs of deep sleep
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Addiso:
Get better battery stats (look it up its on xda) to check what's draining your battery.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
Yep i use this on my nexus 7 and found out that in one night my maps app woke up my device 175 times come to find out its just a matter of getting your location settings right so it doesn't track your position every 5 mins. But better battery stats will also tell you if you have a rogue app that's eating your battery. Be sure to read the instructions before you install it as it can be confusing at first.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jettadieselguy:
HELP. DINC 2 going down. yesterday I got stuck on the JB screen of Chilly's PA rom. Tried the usually suspects- no go. tried factory reset and system wipe, both failed. tired SDW got to 3 step and stopped. only rom's that will work now are Andy's bonestock and Twisted. Any ideas? still have 2 months left with this phone and I hate sense roms.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
Use chillys wipe and then restore a backup. Its worked for me everytime I get the LOD

Edit: you don't have LOD! Try what I said anyway.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jettadieselguy:
I tried chilly's wipe several times, it won't go though the whole wipe process.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Try Nits cm7.

Sent from my poopy Incredible 2....
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NeverSeparate:
Anyone use the dinc2 charger with the nexus? I'm away from home with a low battery and all I have is my backup charger for my dinc2. I haven't checked voltage and amps on this phones charger but I think most new phones use the same specs for USB chargers.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bsmitty83:
Mine didn't ... Or the wife's og inc USB cable , seems its picky about what its plugged into ;)

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
Should be perfectly fine for any phone with a micro usb.

-MROM on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
It'll charge....at least mine did. I did notice today while using my Nexus USB with my car charger that it took FOREVER to charge. Literally 5 hours to go from 10% to 70%. Plugged in to wall with intended charger: 1 hr for 70% to 98%. I dunno wtf is going on with this phone's battery.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
I love Battery Monitor Widget Pro. If you are rooted you definitely should reset the battery calibration.

After a few weeks and a couple of full cycles in there you should have a decent idea of what the battery can do.

First thing I would do is slap a 3+Ah battery in it and never look back.

-MROM on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
S4 is almost twice as fast as the S3. Just saying. And that's the quad core one
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsua98:
Are you sure? Just because the s4 is octocore and the s3 is quad core doesn't mean it's 2x faster.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Addiso:
US s4 1.9 quad core snapdragon pro 600

Vs

US s3 1.5 dual core snapdragon

And they are also releasing the galaxy s4 mini 1.6 dual core 4.3"

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Well I second guess this because I tend to use my friends chargers and some can't even hold up to charge my s3 and just drains it slowly while my original charges in 2 hours and other cables will charge in 4 hours.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsua98:
I think the only real reason to upgrade from s3 to s4 would be if you play those ultra graphic intensive games
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Addiso:
Yeah and I'm pretty sure some dev would port over most s4 features and maybe even a rom port so it's not a buy from me, maybe the s5 or maybe the upcoming nexus; well if it even ends up being in Verizon's jail cell lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
Maybe your friends have crap chargers. I'm still using the one from my OG Droid. LOL

-MROM on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Addiso:
Aha yeah I still use my dad's DROID X charger but the knee that hold up tend to be the metropcs ones lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NeverSeparate:
My backup charger was actually from LG dare. It didn't work. It would not show connected with the phone on. With it off it showed the charging animation but barely did anything. It always did fine for my dinc2. Cord may have gone bad.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
I understand your confusion, but I based that off of benchmark comparision.

So yea, S4 is twice as fast as S3
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jettadieselguy:
I had to install 4ext to get chilly's SDW to work and to get the rom to install.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
No hate here, but I think benchmarks are about as useful as a camera's megapixel rate.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
Perhaps a bad cord, or perhaps the Gnex *is* a bit finicky about the power supply. Motorola sure is.

Dunno, haven't gotten onto a GNex yet. Hope I can before too much longer.

Anyway, good luck and best wishes to all the Gnexers among us!

-MROM on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsua98:
Wow the iPhone is faster than the dual core s3.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Macrodroid:
IPhone may suck compared to android, but it definitely is faster!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Mac's been corrupted by iOS. T.T
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
You can't say that unless you're comparing it to the latest android device :rolleyes:

Android is just an OS, iPhone is a phone. Of course it'll be better than a GNex or an Inc2, but what about the Note 2 or GS3?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] GeoFX:
While the iPhone hardwarer specs may be slightly inferior to the latest flagship Android devices, iOS is definitely more optimized the run on the hardware and the phone will in fact run faster and more smoothly under "real-world" scenarios. The same has already been said about BB10 and how smooth it is relative to the competition (read the reviews on how it kills on browser speeds).

It's just different philosophies. I guess Apple/BB devote more resources in the OS optimization business since they are the sole developers of their respective devices whereas Android device makers need to separate themselves based on hardware specs and benchmarks and devote resources specifically to hardware design (since Google controls Android code).
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] MoeDee:
I believe I dud somethongike that.. once I switched to gsm only it asked to switch to global upon reboot finished.. yet I messed up the whole data WiFi 3g cdma stuff.. so I restored my DD ..
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] durakbane:
This makes me laugh every time I read it. Thanks.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
Now I get it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] CondemnedSoul:
Holy ****! I need a joint.... :what::eek::banghead:

Sent from Kangdemnation
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jameshmiller:
fee3 352e *0 watch5ng a 6nty Pyth6n s25t.

I feel like I'm watching a Monty Python skit. :crying: with laughter.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
After that post you may need more than just a joint.... lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
EPIC INDEX METER: OVER 9000!!!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Camaro305:
THIS is the answer to EVERYTHING!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] anees02:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32769-romleak-70160501-verizon-vivow-ics-sense-36-82112/

here are leaked ROM
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jameshmiller:
No, the answer to everything is 42. Don't you know anything? :rolleyes:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Camaro305:
Except on multiple choice tests. Then it's "C".
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jtsrtr13:
Only if there's choices A-E. If only A-D then choose B. I swear by this.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Camaro305:
No. Everyone knows it's always "C".
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] tennessee_titan:
When do we get back on track????????
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Camaro305:
We're passing time waiting for the official non-test leak.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] seejoshplay:
I think ICS is a pretty cool guy. Eh has multitasking and sense 3.6 and dosen't afraid of anything.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
theres no guarantee the next leak (if we get one) is release software...rezound ics and tbolt gb had like 10 leaks each lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Camaro305:
Yeah but we will definitely get the official ota by the end of August. HTC said so. <sarcastic grin>
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
It's tomorrow. Where's my ICS?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Or you can just kill off support for lower Android versions (like Gingerbread) and then improve stability and optimization that way. Sounds harsh, but gingerbread is really outdated at this point and is the reasonable course of action.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
I was looking at the droid DNA today. It kind of made me want it. I guess I'm just a glutton for punishment.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
I'm in the same boat. I like the DNA better than the S3, but I'll probably get the S3 just because I don't want to be burned again.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
Agreed. Friday is my upgrade date so we'll see what i finally do.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
As much as I hate to admit it, the DNA looks like a fantastic device. If only it had more AOSP support. :'( I'm not the biggest fan of Sense 4 or even the new Sense 5.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
What's good about the DNA? What features do you think are attractive?

-MROM on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
For one thing the screen isn't blue/green...

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I'm already up for an upgrade, but I'm hoping to get a good deal. Costco had the GS3 for $50 yesterday, but it's back up to $100 today. Also, I'm planning on using my wife's dumbphone upgrade and switching it to keep my unlimited. I'm actually kind of unhappy that whatever way I go I'll have to shell out $30 to verizon for the "upgrade fee." smh
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NeverSeparate:
Buy a used phone. It will cost you more but then you don't have a plan.

Sent from a Carbonated GNex
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
Well, I'll still be paying a subsidy either way, and even if I lose unlimited data I won't be too bad off. I don't go over 2gb very often. So for me, I'd rather have the new phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Is that with 3G or 4G?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
3G for now. That's on my Inc2.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
This may sound ignorant, but will more data be used because its a faster speed? I plan in sticking with my 2gb plan when i upgrade to 4g.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
I'm not using more than 1.5 GB a month myself. And that's with my s3

If I've helped, please hit the thanks button.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
I think that was what he was suggesting (not to put words in his mouth), but I've already started training myself to use less data for the inevitable transition to limited data. I'll just get what I want faster than before.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NeverSeparate:
You won't use more of you are doing the same things. But will you be more prone to stream video or download large files due to increase speed. I sometimes download roms on 4g. So for me it says worth keeping unlimited.

Sent from a Carbonated GNex
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Addiso:
Yeah I agree to this, although I do not go past 2 gb of my 8gb mark lol I just never get the urge to use it all the time.