yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
Regarding past using CWM.zip, nothing to do for now.

If you want to take backup, you should have advanced CWM, and you need to flash custom kernel.

If you want to flash parandroid ROM. follow instruction given on that ROM thread.

AFAIK, you need to flash GB ROM first.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] krishkamlesh:
Provide me the safe way to install GB rom

Dear Dr. Ketan,

Can you provide me the link to install by safe way to GB rom?

Please sir... I would like to install Paranoid Rom?

Thanks.. Waiting for your reply...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Hally79:
After reading this thread im scared to do anymore flashing! im currently on criskelo v9 with GL-Notecore v8.1 (OC) my phone is running with no problems at all.Will it continue to do so without problems? Because i did use CWM to flash it! I have done the brick bug test and i do have the "insane chip" but passed the test :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] CJSlim79:
Just to Confirm

I rooted via the CWM.ZIP method a few times - Currently running eMMC Check

This all I did as once this was done I used Mobile Odin to flash SpeedMod.. I have never flashed / wiped while rooted and have also never used CWM to install any kernels -always either PC Odin or Mobile Odin..

So if I understand correctly, Now I am 'Safe' - but obviously will not be using this way of gaining root again?

Correct me if I am wrong

Test Passed
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] YLNdroid:
You are in the wrong forum! This forum is for the Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000.

:p
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
Replied to ur PM

Yup ! Avoid it now onwards.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] rraaka:
Dr Ketan has been very patiently addressing everyones fears and doubts in this thread,

but this thread is not to create further fear but rather awareness only.

Till a better/safer method to root ICS is worked out we may continue with rooting via pc odin. (would love to hear success stories from this method)

I have used cwm.zip before to flash abyss kernel and ran into the endless counter from where i retreated in haste. my chip is also susceptible.

actually, we need to learn the definition of the term 'wiping'

flashing a custom rom entails wiping

flashing a kernel cleaning script entails wiping

factory data reset is DEFINITELY wiping !!

flashing kernels zips does not entail wiping

flashing mods is ok, wipe dalvik and chache is ok

cwm zip did not work on a kernel of its own but rather on the kernel previously installed on the device,

in case of rooting ics stock it was working on the stock kernel -which was definitely dangerous.

i believe Mobile odin and other simillar tools flash their own kernel for the work that they do

i believe triangle away does this too

so they might be safer

sorry if have posted some incorrect statements

im just a noob trying to summarise

and i loved the comment of someone in here - for the lifespan of his Note hes gonna make it stay put on CM9 !

a good sense of humour will sail us through

so so happy and relieved that speedmod and notecore kernels are reliable and safe

lets hear more of those success stories please :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bongski55:
What about downgrading to rooted GB then using MOBILE ODIN with EVERNOTE to install ICS?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
del
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
I recommend to flash custom kernel in same flash.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] sameer_tangri:
Use of CWM on GB and ICS

Hi Dr.

I was checking the Opening Post of your thread having all Stock ROMs (ICS and GB).

You have edited the Rooting section under the ICS ROMs and warned against use of the CWM.zip while on any ICS-based ROM.

So using 'CWM.zip' on any ICS ROM is NOT TO BE DONE.

However, can CWM be used while on Rooted GB ROM?

I am asking this as I am currently on Stock ICS DDLP8 ROM and want to go to the Kingdroid Custom ROM.

I was planning to -

1. First install pre-rooted Stock GB ROM (from your thread) using PC Odin.

2. Do Wipes using CWM

3. Install the Custom ROM

What do you think about this?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Rukmalranaweera:
What does this means ?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28589629&postcount=62 method also dangerous ????
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Braxos:
So a question the Emmc bricks are made from cwm? Because till now all reports I can think to remember had sort of wiped from cwm ! Because it triggers a command/procedures which "destroy" the blocks on the chip. May that all kern3ls are safe and only get unsafe with cwm!?

Just a question/thought.

Because pointing is allways easy just straight your hand and done.

Hope it will solved anyway
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] axelTP2:
Dear Dr.Ketan, I have recently rooted my Note using the prerooted kernel and the procedure shown in "When No Any other method works to Root your device use this" - post no.1 of the thread [02Feb12]How to Root/Unroot Samsung Galaxy Note + CWM at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1329360

I am running GingerBread (now on KJ1). Is this cwm.zip a danger to me or not, please? Is it safe to work with it any further for other GB kernels and roms?

From this prerooted GB rom I intend to migrate towards CM9, but no idea on what kernel would be best, I am a beginner. Is this safe, please? If NOT, what precautions do I need to take please to be on the safe side? Thank you!

Great work tou are doing in here, thank you very much for all of it!!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
Your CWMR and kernel are safe to flash and do wipes from.

You can use your present kernel/CWMR to safely flash CM9. Just do a full wipe, flash CM9 Rom and Gapps, and you're good to go.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] sameer_tangri:
So CWM.zip is safe on GB right?

From what I understand and make out of this thread so far...CWM.zip is safe on any GB ROM.

But it is not to be used on any ICS ROM.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] krishkamlesh:
Dear,

I have used this method on my ics 4.03 and its working fine with rooted device now. But I want to install Paranamadroid. I fear to move ahead now.

Now what to do??

I have to instal pre rooted ROM. Bit I don't know what is pre rooted ROM. I I think I need to go with GB. But with which one?

Please help Dears..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
I have updated OP read it.

As well you understand wrongly, read below my answer to your another Q.

It was old and not edited, thanx for heads up, it is edited now.

+ with chasmodo

Wrong

here cwm.zip we are talking is only specific cwm.zip(temporary/touch recovery), we are using to root ICS. This is not CWM in general

cwm.zip we are discussing here is just work on ICS.

Hope it shud be clear now.

Replied your PM
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Randomwalker:
Perhaps it will help all those paniced ppl. out there to explain the logic behind this warning:

1) CWM.zip (not all CWM recoveries) issues a potentially dangerous command to the currently installed kernel

2) If the currently installed kernel executes said command damage is possible.

--> If your current kernel blocks erase commands you are good to go

--> if only your recovery does not use the command (but your kernel allows it) CWM.zip is dangerous (but there should be no reason to use CWM.zip in that case anyway).

That's just a recap of what I understand from Entropy512's posts, pls correct if I'm wrong.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Dan_Aykroyd:
Two things:

1) How exactly "installing a zip" that "package_extract" the su and Superuser.apk is dangerous? If you don't wipe or do any other stuff while you are on that CWM, why is it dangerous?

2) The second rooting method on OP wouldn't leave you with GB bootloaders, since Mobile ODIN doesn't flash bootloaders when going to ICS?

Thanks
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
Yes, you will be left with GB bootloaders, but that is neither here nor there.

Just to clarify: bootloaders are there to initiate and accelerate the boot process. Once you are past the boot, they become inactive and have absolutely NO effect on the functionality and/or speed of your Rom.

I have been on GB bootloaders and CM9 for 3 months now, and everything is working just fine.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] FabreFaction:
Does not apply to rooted ICS

It might be worth starting the OP with the disclaimer that this only applies to unrooted ICS on an unsafe kernel.

Those using already rooted ICS with a safe kernel (NoteCore, Speedmod, etc.) are not affected by this problem if they use the CWM installed with the safe kernel.

Should prevent some of the confusion.:good:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] azzledazzle:
Not necessarily, Speedmod kernel and NoteCore (until about 2 hours ago) contained the CWM which had the string of code that is causing this issue.

Notecore has fixed this by using the CWM that was inside the CF-Root kernel, which has this line of code removed, Thus making this the only double safe kernel as of now.

So dont just assume that a safe kernel will prevent this issue.

No one is safe, Nothing is safe wtf is the world coming too ? ?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Randomwalker:
My understanding was that CWM can only issue an erase command to the kernel. If the kernel block the erase nothing will happen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] progene81:
Hi Dr dr.ketan,

Correct me if I'm wrong. Based on your 1st post, avoid using "CWM.ZIP". So my method below is to be avoid at all cost. Am I right?

The method I use to root.

1) Download the CWM.ZIP and put it into your Ext SDCard

2) Download the Supersu-Busybox-Installer.ZIP and put it into SD card (Internal Memory)

3) Reboot into Recovery.

4) Choose apply update from External storage. Choose CWM.ZIP and wait until CWM recovery appear.

5) Choose install zip from sdcard. Chose and install Supersu-Busybox-Installer.ZIP

6) Reboot your device and when your device is up. Open SuperSu app and update binary.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And based on your 1st post, if want to root, either go for

1. Short, easy - requires to reset counter

2. Long, No raised couter OR Exclamation mark

Correct?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] will5:
Guys, there is an app that checks the actual mem blocks to see if brick already happen.

Look for mmc brick check on google play.

Use at your own risk.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] azzledazzle:
Thats what i thought too, I must admit im not 100% sure wtf is going on around here lately.

Theres so many contradicting posts that im just sitting in the corner of the room shaking and screaming 'is anything safe these days ?'

Anyway, Its reported that NoteCore is double safe, So thats all im using (all i ever used) until something is properly figured out :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
If person is on safe kernel, that already have its own CWM, then why to use CWM.zip??
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
Not all ICS ROM even contains bootloader isn't?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
yes
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Dan_Aykroyd:
Please, how do you explain this:

Thanks
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
You have PM
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Dan_Aykroyd:
Thanks :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] progene81:
Dr Ketan, you have a PM too.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
replied!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Sakura90:
I have the same doubt as him. Can I get the PM too? Or post the reply here. Thanks!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
I have quoted in op wat Entropy said. Any bad string shud not use for any purpose.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] YLNdroid:
A quick question, can the eMMC Brickbug Check app be used on a Gingerbread firmware or it is only meant for a Ice Cream Sandwich firmware?

:o
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Dan_Aykroyd:
In any firmware, but if you always were in GB, then you are probably safe anyway :). Just install it and run the "Check Memory" action. If the phone doesn't freeze while scanning... no problemo
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] :
there was a case where on abys, cwm. zip was flashed and wiped from there. Tht delivered a superbrick. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=29699923

edit: I read it wrong, I think you are right
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] YLNdroid:
I was perusing at the various custom Ice Cream Sandwich firmwares available in the

Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development

sub-forum and it is evident that certain custom firmwares such as Chrack´s ICS 4.04 XXLRK DBT V10, Cassie's XtraLiteRom ICS EDITION v6.0 LRG and CriskeloRom ICS Note V11.1 LRK use the CF kernel.

Is it safe to perform wipe data/factory reset on the aforementioned firmwares?

:confused:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
baz, read Dr. Ketan's post you have linked once again, this time a bit more carefully:

When you flash something (in this case Abyss, but it could be anything else) from CWMR installed by CWM.zip AND the stock Samsung ICS kernel (why would you need CWM.zip if it was a custom kernel?), then it is

1. the said Samsung kernel that issues bad erase/format commands during the flash and

2. CWMR that lets those commands through

what causes the damage.

Wiping from Abyss is just the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back. Irreparable damage was already done before this wipe.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] :
ah I got it, I see I read it wrong. thanks Chasmodo for enlightening that to me
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] little-vince:
I don't really understand.

YES. I HAVE READ THE OP.

Haven't people been using cwm.zip for ages?

Why the sudden boycott and how often is a brick triggered?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] p_m:
Mod flash with CWM is safe ???

Dear Dr.

You have changed method for rooting but you are still showing the mods to be flashed with CWM.zip, My question is "is it safe to flash MODs like Recording, Touchwiz... with CWM"

Please clarify at the earliest.

Thank you for your valuable support to Galaxy Note Users...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jonpaslim:
Is my understanding is right that the abyss is still safe to use for wiping, its only dangerous if combine with CWM zip. Forgive my slow of understanding.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bongski55:
Will you please explain some more? you mean I can use mobile odin no problem?

Edit: never mind saw the post no. 1. thanks!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] kopitalk:
The main idea of using CWM.zip is to inject busybox, su binary and superuser.apk only, i.e. to gain root. It should NOT be used for other flashing purpose. Once rooted, in order to get a proper working CWM, you have to flash a safe kernel (zImage or in .tar) via Mobile Odin. Then we can do subsequent CWM recovery action (flashing, backup, wipe, etc, even flasing Abyss) using the CWM that comes with the new kernel.

I believe this is what most of us have been doing so far, thus no problem.

The CWM.zip itself is not dangerous, but using it with stock kernel to flash anything else (other than to inject root) is deadly.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jonpaslim:
So if they use CWM zip to flash abyss it becomes dangerous? Is that right? But if you use abyss in regular CWM recovery for wiping then its ok?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] rraaka:
i think on the OP we should mention in bold red that this warning refers NOT to CWM recoveries used in general and associated with the safe kernels al l over the forum BUT just to the specific file named CWM.zip made available for rooting stock ICS earlier on. It had very limited availability on 1- 2 or threads for the time that it survived distribution.

CWM recoveries in general are the permanent advanced ones.

CWMdot zip is the temporary infantile file (it had touch recovery).
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
Yes, you're right there.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jonpaslim:
Thanks chasmodo for your answer.:good:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
Thanx for heads up

Edited which is on N700 stock ROM thread., let me send link if it is mentioned at any other place.

Edited and make it clear now. :good:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] arinsms:
OMG i just root using CWM and found your thread...4.0.4 rooted
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] kopitalk:
It's fine. Just don't use it for any other purposes. See my previous post here. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=29765053
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Spo0f:
So if i do this only I'll be completely save?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6FbmyKuZV8&feature=share
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] thienthancongtu:
I dont think so

Correct me if im wrong but not recommended to use CWM.zip for rooting (before i've done this)

Me only flash abyss kernel via kTool (inside android enviroment)

Or/And

Enter recovery then install from SDcard > choose Abysskernel42touchoriginal.zip

> then reboot recovery > then flash rooted Roms...

Please Im just a noob correct me if im wrong if my method is safer...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
This thread warn you about same.

Don't use it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ckmemphis:
So lets lay this out in plain simple terms for all noobs out there.... If you got stock unrooted ICS, like me, and you only want to inject busybox and su binary, CWM.zip is fine. But only for that purpose. Anything else is just too risky..... Am I correct in saying that?

Reason being that the OP stated clearly not to use CWM.zip for anything, including the purpose of injecting root. Now you are saying rooting with CWM.zip is fine.... Two different sides of the coin and its a tad bit confusing....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
Dear moderator

It will be better if this thread get closed after editing some posts, with final msg as per entropy said - NOT TO USE CWM.ZIP(TEMPORARY / TOUCH RECOVERY) FOR ANY PURPOSE. And should put on stiky section fot some time.

B'coz this is clear msg and no further discussion needed for now.

Regards
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] shoey63:
Whether or not CWM.zip is theoretically safe for rooting only is irrelevant. Fact is, you can brick your note while on it and is therefore DANGEROUS and must not be used.

I bricked mine by doing a wipe on it (stock LQ2 at the time). Got confused and thought I was on Abyss touch (they look similar do they not?). Thankfully grey retailer replaced phone, but others may not be so fortunate if the same thing happens to them....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] reinbeau:
Thread closed

The idle speculation and theories aren't helping. As is said above, do not use CWM.ZIP AT ALL.
[Galaxy S III General] Deus_ex11:
Here are my custom CWM recovery OTA updates for the international S3

NOTE: For STOCK Rom users only. Your CSC must be I9300OXABLG6. If you have made any changes to files in the /system folder it will fail.

If like me your using a stock ROM rooted with custom recovery or kernel and want to update without downloading the whole ROM and risk losing root and recovery in the process. These modded updates are for you to save time, bandwith and frustration.

Current OTA update: XXBLG6 to XXBLG8

ota.update.all.XXBLG8.zip 4 MB

ota.update.no.modem.XXBLG8.zip 4 MB

ota.update.no.kernel.XXBLG8.zip 542 KB

ota.update.no.kernel.and.modem.XXBLG8.zip 541 KB

All the zips here will not replace your custom recovery or remove root. The no kernel and no modem zips are intended for users with a custom kernel and or want to keep their current baseband.

Tested and working on CWM 6.0.1.0 Touch and Chainfire's CWM 5.5.0.4

If you've got the OTA update notification nag, to get rid of it do this:

1. Using a file explorer with root permissions, I use ES. Go to /cache/fota ,In there will be the update.zip

2. Delete it or move it to your sd card.

3. Bring up the updater from the notifications and press install and OK, it should fail.

4. Notification nag gone.

Older OTA updates:

Austria (T-Mobile)

ota.update.XXALE8-XXBLFB.CSC-MAXLF2.zip 72 MB

ota.update.no.kernel.XXALE8-XXBLFB.CSC-MAXLF2.zip 67 MB
[Galaxy S III General] Deus_ex11:
If you have got any older OTA updates, could you make them available for download so I can convert them.
[Galaxy S III General] alias_neo:
Nice work mate, I'm sure a lot of people will find this very useful.
[Galaxy S III General] watsa:
+1 very well done. People who have not recieved ota or for some reason are still on lg6 like me will love it
[Galaxy S III General] paha77:
Could you help converting other OTA updates as well? I got a I9300XXALE8 and an OTA update of I9300XXBLFB,

Do I need a full wipe to flash them?

Thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] watsa:
Its an "update". Why would you need wipe for an update
[Galaxy S III General] Deus_ex11:
Upload it somewhere and put the link here and I will see what I can do. Use a root explorer to copy it to your sd card. Its in '/cache/fota'
[Galaxy S III General] paha77:
Thanks so much, I'm gonna do it ASAP and send you the link.
[Galaxy S III General] woooson:
Ive tryed installing all of your ota updates none work im rooted with the latest cwm (in uk)
[Galaxy S III General] Se23:
Same.
[Galaxy S III General] Deus_ex11:
Sorry that it didnt work for you guys. Your CSC must be I9300OXABLG6 and you must be on stock XXBLG6 for it to update. If you've got a branded phone it won't work either. What errors was it showing in CWM?
[Galaxy S III General] kin8pin:
Sorry for noob question.....can I flash this with Mobile Odin? Thanks OP.
[Galaxy S III General] Deus_ex11:
This is a recovery update. It only patches existing files. You must flash it in clockworkmod recovery.
[Galaxy S III General] paha77:
Here it is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/jevl97

MD5: e76c3bd24d5cf1964a9eee1aa81b6169 *I9300XXBLFB-FOTA.zip

Thank you.
[Galaxy S III General] Deus_ex11:
Your download links are on the first post
[Galaxy S III General] Se23:
I'm on xxalf2 so that's prob it then. Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] paha77:
Thank you my friend, it worked. Now I'm on the new version. :good:

What do you think, will this method work if Samsung releases Android 4.1 for the S3?

Thanks again.
[Galaxy S III General] woooson:
I cant for the life of me find my cwmlog files?? It comes up with error status 7!
[Galaxy S III General] Deus_ex11:
Sorry for the late reply guys

Do you still have the ota update.zip? I can convert it for you.

Glad to help. I'm just giving back what I've taken and learnt. If they release it as a ota then it should be possible. We'll have to see.

Its in the '/cache/recovery' folder. That status 7 error means it failed the assert test for the model fingerprint I believe. You can only flash this update on a XXBLG6 rom and your CSC must be I9300OXABLG6. To check what ROM and CSC your using, do this.

1. Open your keypad dialer

2. Press *#1234#

3. It should show your ROM and CSC. AP = ROM and CP = Baseband.
[Galaxy S III General] paha77:
They promised it until the end of Q3 2012 so let's hope. :cowboy:
[Galaxy S III General] woooson:
Thank you very much will get it sorted tomorrow and post result :D

Been sent to Aberdeen tinternet be crap gonna be another week till i get home
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nosebleedXD:
I was wondering if there is a job version of rascream. I can't find it n I want to know where I can DL it. I see people using rascream with 1689trinity kernel when rascream is clearly ics and Trinity 1689 is only for job.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smallsmx3:
Its prob o vious u know where to download rascream? My bet would be to look there...and since there is no link there my assumption would be there isnt one yet....rascarlo is over seas i believe.....whenever he gets home im sure hell do his magic...be patient
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nosebleedXD:
oh okay thanks man

so heres the link for rascream http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rascream

but its only ics

is the cm10 jellybro considered a rascream rom as well?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 3rdstring:
No Jellybro does not equal Rascream. Rascarlo was out of country on assignment when Jelly Bean dropped so he is a little later than everyone else but it is a work in progress. Also even though there is no official thread for Rascarlos' ROMs they are discussed in the GSM Trinity kernel thread.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] simms22:
ras jelly bean its not out yet, but it is in the testing phase. rascarlo is working on it with what little time he has outside his normal every day life. be patient, it will come. what you see is old posts with rascream and the ics version of trinity 1689. there is a jb version of 1689 too :D