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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] elosogrande7076:
I probably know the answer to this but I wanted to get others opinion. I typically get no more then 9 hours with 1.5 to 2 hours of on screen time. This happens no matter what rom i use (i have used several of the TW roms on the forum). I typically have 4 gmail accounts that I sync, 3 groupme chats synced (a txt msg service that uses push notifications), and the occasional facebook synced. I have tried different methods of calibrating my battery and different kernels....I keep seeing posting battery stats of screen times of 4hrs and more and having 16+ hours of battery life...I have several batteries (2 stock, 1 anker no nfc and 1 stock qcell) and im pretty much getting the same battery results with all of them....

I guess im trying to see if its because I am syncing so many apps/programs at a time thats causing my battery drain. Is anyone else syncing as much as me but getting better battery life?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LILREDJAY:
Light to moderate use 2 days.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] NewbieX2:
What roms do you guys use?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] FL0OD:
LIH Build

Ktoones 9/23 JB build from TMO forums

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] daryllh:
I have yet to get my GS3. I'm liking the battery stats of most of you.

I was wondering if the theory of leaving your wi-fi on when available helps with battery life.

Back when I was on sprint with my first Android phone (Hero), I read a thread discussing that because CDMA phones poll towers for signal more, it's better to leave wi-fi on when you can because that keeps the phone from trying to grab a data signal all the time. Since reading that, I've always subscribed to that theory and after 4 different android phones (all rooted, overclocked and using non-stock rom...mostly CM), I can say my battery life with CDMA and wifi always on has been great.

Most people who have iphones either don't understand this or totally disagree with me. When the iphone first came to sprint, I had mentioned this theory to resolve really bad battery life people i knew were having.

Obviously, if you aren't around wi-fi, this will mean nothing.

Thoughts?
[Kindle Fire General] SirVilhelm:
Since I got my kindle fire last Christmas I've only used a rooted stock roms (whatever was latest). There would be weeks where I wouldn't touch my kindle then one day I would turn it on and still have battery left. It seemed the battery would never die, as if the stock kindle rom would go into some kind of super deep sleep.

Since going to JB I cannot reproduce this. Even if I don't touch the kindle it will run out of power in just a couple days. I went through and turned off all background sync and have it shut off wifi during sleep. Anyone have any tips to get the battery to last when the screen is off?
[Kindle Fire General] yaibakt:
i have the same issue. the battery runs out so quickly on JB :(
[Kindle Fire General] fireman928:
my wifes battery life went to garbage when i flashed the JB rom on her kindle. She didnt really like the other ones i put on from the ics. but she likes the eye candy jb rom just that the battery life sucks
[Kindle Fire General] SirVilhelm:
Ok, sounds like I am not the only one. I love everything about the JB roms except the battery life. I am sure we'll get there one day...
[Kindle Fire General] snowcloud:
how about the ics roms??

which is the best ics rom??
[Kindle Fire General] Ixthusdan:
None of the roms beyond stock give superior battery life. Only stock gives you several days of life. I charge my kindle everyday with daily use. If I want to conserve battery, I shut it off.
[Kindle Fire General] veeman:
The CM7 ROMs have better battery life than the Stock KF ROM.
[Kindle Fire General] shuddles:
Anyone know why this is? Did Amazon write some super special sleep code that nobody else can figure out or port to ICS or JB? Or is it just that there isn't enough interest in the feature among xda devs?

I definitely miss this in my KF running JB. It was awesome to be able to use the stock system lightly for weeks between charges. One less device's power needs to be slave to. ;)

Of course, the additional functionality in these custom roms is worth it!

-S
[Kindle Fire General] veeman:
No. Gingerbread ROMs just have better battery life. Look at the CM7 ROMs. Really good battery.
[Kindle Fire General] SirVilhelm:
This is what I was wondering too. One thing I noticed with stock is that once I brought the Kindle out of sleep it would take a bit for wifi to come back. I wonder if Amazon wrote something to just shut everything off when the device sleeps. I tried replicating this with JB but couldn't get the same results.
[Kindle Fire General] shuddles:
I probably don't have enough data to say for sure, but it seems like there's more to it than just Gingerbread vs ICS/JB. My old phone was running CM7. Would it have lasted for weeks in sleep mode without a charge? Maybe it would have in airplane mode? I never tried it so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. =)

Still, it seems like the stock KF is doing something special to deep sleep. I always was shocked how quickly I could connect to my wi-fi after instantly waking that thing up after a week without touching it and the charge level was still high. It made the KF have battery life comparable to my regular Kindle eReader, which is really saying something since I almost never turn on the wi-fi on my eInk Kindle.

To some extent this issue is less important now because I'm using the heck out of my JB Kindle Fire so I'm burning up battery from regular activity anyway. It is no longer a dust collector. I'm just curious if somebody knows the technical reason that these newer Android versions and/or non-Amazon ROMs are unable to achieve "deep sleep". Is it a lost cause and deep sleep is a thing of the past or do we simply need to wait for a developer who builds that custom JB ROM designed for arctic explorers and wilderness survivalists? ;)

-S
[Kindle Fire General] ortrigger:
Your kindle fire should still be using deep sleep. The difference is that ics and jb are way more advanced operating systems. Therefore, there is more overhead power usage which equates to less battery life.

sent from my Kindle Fire running CM10 Jelly Bean
[Kindle Fire General] kls2k:
I don't think that is the issue.

On my HTC Sensation phone I get better battery life with ICS than I did with stock gingerbread.

I just think the deep sleep in the ics/jb kernel is not as optimized as the one in stock and it has power leaks.

Being more advanced operating systems they could consume more during active use (although I doubt it since ICS/JB use more hardware decoding/acceleration than Gingerbread and that means better battery life) of the device but deep sleep should be the same.
[Kindle Fire General] rorogio:
and yet, the question remains: why is it happening, and what to do about it? :confused:

I use SetCPU for such purpose in the meantime, with the profile to minimum CPU while with screen off
[Kindle Fire General] MrBrady:
I think it's more of a kernel issue. The cm7 roms are fantastic for battery but lack all the latest goodies (and speed) built into ICS and JB.
[Kindle Fire General] SpudsterZ:
My 2 cents:

Part of it is the kernel. Having been around longer, it's more mature in Gingerbread (CM7 and stock), having been refined/efficient over time.

The other part is features. There's simply more stuff in CM9 (ICS) and CM10 (JB). More stuff = more stuff tasking the system = higher battery drain. This is especially true for stock which is rather stripped-down compared to the more fully-featured custom ROMS.

I was able to squeeze a little more battery life out of JB by using Titanium Backup to "freeze" unnecessary apps such as anything referring to Bluetooth or voice control.
[Kindle Fire General] powerpoint45:
U could try antutu battery saver.it manages ur cpu.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] SSyar:
Hi there, a silly question might be but can i use my Xperia neo (MT15) charger to charge Apple iPod touch 2nd Gen.. with its white charging cable..!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] BombayBoy:
I charge almost all my devices with USB charge point interchangeably. BlackBerry, Sony, set top box, Apple ;)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] SSyar:
With neo charger i assume..!!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] gluschuk:
I dont reccomend you to do this, because different chargers have different voltages, and output amperage, and you can damage the battery of iphone.

First of all look at voltages, if they are the same - go ahead)
[Asus Transformer TF700] AspenMan:
Got my Skinomi skins today and after applying I have to say I'm impressed. I was eager to see if it would fit in the dock with it on too, and it does. It's just a little tight but it does fit fine.

When the skin arrives it comes shipped in a tube, since it's rolled up in the tube the ends of the skin want to peel up. If it was rolled the other way it would of been much better. After learning from the tablet skin I re-rolled the dock skin the other way and put it back in the tube for 30 minutes or so and that helped.

My advice when putting the skin on is to only use the application fluid on the large main skin parts (top for the tab and bottom for the dock), and be sure NOT to get any fluid on the small edging/side parts of the skin. Once the main back part is on, bubble free and aligned it will be easy to stick down the sides if there's no fluid on them. In my case I put the fluid all over and the smaller side parts kept peeling themselves up and it took a lot of holding down till they were stuck (the whole process took me about an hour for the tablet).

Lesson learned, on the dock skin I only used a small amount of fluid on the main bottom part and none on the little parts and it was a much faster process. Using a hair dryer will aide in the drying time and also makes the skin more malleable so it doesn't want to peel itself back.

The tablet skin comes with a clear screen protector that I'm not using. I use an anti-glare screen protector (3 pack available on Amazon for $14.95) and I like this set up a lot. A few other reviews for this skin said because the clear screen protector is a bit sticky when you close the tab the screen sticks to the skin on the dock and it cause bubbles in the screen. With the very non-sticky screen protector I have, this isn't an issue.

All-in-all I'm impressed with the skin. It's a very tough vinyl, has a great texture to it (actually feels like carbon fiber and makes for a nice feel in the hand) and provides good coverage on almost all of the tablet and dock.

The only down side is the set up (especially if you use a different screen protector) is a little pricy... But, if you want to protect your tablet and dock while making the setup look bad @ss this is the way to go!!

UPDATE: A small part of the corner of the skin (a very thin strip that covers the corner on the top of the tablet) came off, was torn by the case. I contacted Skinomi as the skin has a lifetime warranty and they're sending me a whole new skin for free. Prompt customer service too. Good company...

Links:

Tablet skin on Amazon, $26.94 with shipping

Dock skin on Amazon, $18.94 with shipping.

If you like this review please click the thanks button below!!!

If anyone wants pics of any specific part of the tab or dock to see exact fitting just let me know and I'll take it and post here!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Crizthakidd:
how do you feel about this vs a case? if you were to drop this i dont see where it would help. its more for scratch proofing ?
[Asus Transformer TF700] AspenMan:
This would do absolutely nothing in the event of a drop!! lol. But, I don't like to always have my tablet in a case and this will help prevent scratches when I'm using it around the house out of the case (sometimes I take the tablet with me while it's docked too and I only have a neoprene case for this, this skin helps once I pull out the tablet in this situation). Great scratch protection, no protection for drops... And it looks cool, and feels cool, and is cool ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Crizthakidd:
lol ugh maybe you can help me decide between this skin and these 2

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088IA9PC/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i01

http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Transformer-Infinity-Keyboard-Portfolio/dp/B008LM04T6

i have the dock, but do not care about protecting it, dont have a screen protector, just want a case for when i take the tablet out to school or meetings
[Asus Transformer TF700] AspenMan:
I have a case very similar to the Poetic case (2nd link) although it doesn't rotate. I didn't need to rotate the screen as I rarely use it in portrait mode and wanted as slim a case as I could get. I got the Blurex Slim Folio Case on Amazon for $21.99 and I think it's a great case! Slim, good fit, and I think it provides about as much protection as you can get with a case of this nature.

I actually have the 1st case you linked to on order, it will be here tomorrow. Not so sure about it but I guess I'll find out tomorrow. I'll update this reply once it gets in!

UPDATE: Got the Poetic Tablet/Dock case today and I like it. It does add a LOT of thickness to the whole setup but it provides good coverage and I like the little pockets for business cards and other notes. It also has two pen holders (good for styli). Looks professional too. If you don't mind a thick setup I'd recommend this case!
[Asus Transformer TF700] ajamils:
Thanks for the review. After debating for some time, I ended up ordering the brushed steel one. I hope it looks decent :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] dalingrin:
How does it feel when holding the tablet(without the dock)? Does it feel like it might peel where you hold it on the edges?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Chief Geek:
ACTUALLY....it will do alot of good in a drop. The innitial impact won't be saved, however when you drop something it usually bounces and/or slides. The full skins will mitigate most of the damage from all the scuffs, dings, and scratches that come after the initial impact. I dropped my Galaxy Note and the corner has a pretty good ding, but the skin was skuffed to hell and looked like ****. I was ticked that my phone looked like it was worn as a shoe down a gravel road. I peeled the skin off and was taken back at the fact that there wasnt a single mark on it other then the corner where it landed. I immediately ordered a new skin from ArmorSuit telling them it saved my phone, they refunded the purchase I just made and sent me one for free telling me they were glad it worked and the lifetime warranty covered it. The only reason my tf700 doesnt have a full skin yet is because I use the rooCase snap on that is a little too tight. Full skins pay you back exponentially when the day comes to sell it and you peel it off to see nearly brand new device.
[Asus Transformer TF700] fntms:
Does the skin cover the sharp edges of the tab next to the bezel ? I can't really find out from the pics I've seen.

I find the tab quite uncomfortable to hold for a long while because of those rather nasty edges...

Thanks.
[Asus Transformer TF700] suunnittelija:
My Skinomi Clear Skin arrived today but I'm not going to install it yet. I'm going to send my tablet for repair or swap for new unit because of bad quality on glass/screen installation on lower left corner... :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] AspenMan:
It doesn't feel like it will peel but the edges are just a little rough. I don't find it to be a big deal and now that I've had it on for a day I've come to really, really like it. Feels solid and is very "grippy".
[Asus Transformer TF700] AspenMan:
It doesn't cover the sharp sides around the bezel, doesn't quite reach around far enough.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Eroc162:
Do they sell the skin for the dock alone. I already have a zagg shield for the tablet.
[Asus Transformer TF700] AspenMan:
They do, link is in the review but here it is again: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006ZPPDFG/

Right now you can only buy them separately. I have the TF201 dock, not sure if the TF700 will be any different size wise once it's released (doubt it).
[Asus Transformer TF700] ishamm:
I just ordered this based on your review, thanks, though shipping could take a while. How is the bundled screen protector? I had skinomi on my atrix, and was impressed, but that wasn't a high res screen, so any blur was unnoticeable. Is it a good clear cover, or does brightness and clarity take a hit? Thanks
[Asus Transformer TF700] polish_pat:
wow these are beautiful skins...but god damn cant get them shipped to canada!!! grrrrrrrrrr we always have to be left out
[Asus Transformer TF700] Eroc162:
I just ordered a tf201 skinomi dock skin in clear for my tf700 dock on ebay. Skinomi sells them on ebay $16. Anybody have a Zagg screen saver and a dock. How does the Zagg fit? Does it look like it will peel off the Zagg over time. I have the Zagg here waiting for my replacement to arrive and wondering if I should cut a section out where the dock's padding touches the screen. The last thing I want is for the cushions to peel off.

update

I installed the tf201 dock skinomi cover and it fit fine. Its a pain in the neck to get it right though. seems thinner then the Zagg.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ajamils:
I installed the brushed steel one today on my TF700 and it looks stunning (it even have textured feel to it). The installation was painless and took only few minutes. I have not yet installed it on the dock (dock is still sealed) but from the various cutouts, it look like it will be trickier to install than the tablet.

On the other hand, I did not like the screen protector that came with it. It was pain to align correctly and even after taking out all water from underneath, it still has a lot of water streaks. According to the instructions, they are supposed to go away after couple of days so I will wait and see. My recent experience with another wet application screen protector was ArmourSuit for Nexus 7 and it was a breeze to install and it was completely clear within few minutes.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Eroc162:
Installed the dock screen yesterday and I still have micro bubbles. Not as much as I had yesterday but still have them non the less. No biggie. Its definitely attaches alot quicker than Zagg. I tell you what, I'm happy I don't have to do it again lol.
[Asus Transformer TF700] AspenMan:
The dock is actually easier. The part I found hard was the small parts of the tablet skin on the side/top/bottom kept wanting to peel themselves back and it took a lot of holding it in place while drying. The dock I would only use a small amount of the fluid on the main piece and just stick on all the small pieces, it's easy and nothing wants to peel itself back.

I don't plan on using the screen protector, don't like the feel of it and I prefer anti-glare. I used a similar one on my Xoom and it took almost a week for the streaks to clear and even then it didn't look very good. I also read another review that said the screen protector will stick to the skin on the dock and cause bubbles to form. The anti-glare screen protector I use isn't sticky at all and I don't have this issue (Poetic anti-glare screen protectors - 3 pack, $14.95 on Amazon)
[Asus Transformer TF700] ajamils:
Will give covering the dock a try sometime tomorrow. As for the screen protector, I am not a fan of anti-glare ones. They make the screen look grainy and degrades picture quality (atleast that's what I experienced when I used them on Prime). Is that still the case?
[Asus Transformer TF700] AspenMan:
It is a bit grainy looking, but I use this tablet outside a lot and it also makes any fingerprints much much less noticeable.
[Asus Transformer TF700] yaleman1:
Asus TF700 Case

I ordered the TF700 case from caseen "SKINNY DESIGNO Black Hand Strap Stand Case for the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity TF700", very nice case, looks excellent on my tablet!
[Asus Transformer TF700] qnfauf:
I have been using clear full body Skinomi Techskin on my iPhone 4S I bought as soon as it became available.

It is a great skin, and it definitely helps against drops (although you should go for a case if dropping is your main concern). The screen will less likely be damaged because even though it does not absorb shock it does strengthen the glass by a bit. And with this, you know that there will be no scratches.

One downside of it is that the adhesive is a bit weaker than some other films I've used. It starts to feel after a few months of use. You can, however, request lifetime warranty replacement for $2.95 (shipping charge) using a fax. They send the replacement very quickly, and I've done this twice so far.

Any bubbles that form under the film will disappear within a few days. Liquid bubbles disappear more quickly, so using a lot of liquid is fine as long as it does not damage the device. Unless there is a huge bubble, you don't need to try to hard to get rid of them.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ajamils:
So I finally finished installing the brushed steel skin. I love the quality and fitment. There are some small pieces what could have been a little bigger to cover some for keyboard parts but overall its awesome. I also like the texture which makes it feel like it is actual brushed steel.

One suggestion for people who are planning to do this install, when installing pieces on the corners or smaller pieces, use hair drier on low setting to warm up the skin and the are and it will help a lot in skin sticking correctly.

P.S: Attached are some pics of T700 and the dock (TF201 dock).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Diogenes5:
Looks like a great product but my infinity has gotten heat issues a bunch of time before even with the aluminum backing. I'm afraid if I get this, the heat issues will get worse.
[Asus Transformer TF700] AspenMan:
I'm not having any heat issues with mine, you may have a problem with yours... I wouldn't worry about the skin making any heat worse though.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ajamils:
I have not seen any heat issue either.
[Asus Transformer TF700] DroidOWL:
it looks nice, thanks for sharing.
[Asus Transformer TF700] xjarl:
Very nice!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Curious!:
Which set did you order ?

Is it the combination of these 2 :

http://www.skinomi.com/sk11340-asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700-brushed-steel-skin-protector.html

http://www.skinomi.com/sk10198-asus...yboard-dock-brushed-steel-skin-protector.html

Can you also take the pics of the screen protector and comment on the quality screen? Does it degrade the quality?

Does the back of the tablet protector cover the part which goes into the dock?
[Asus Transformer TF700] elkabonger:
Skinomi Review

I also received the Black Carbon Fiber skin and clear screen protector from Skinomi. Overall, I like it, but I feel that the fit of the carbon fiber skin is not 100% accurate. Namely, if you line up the skin perfectly with the Asus logo, it still seems to cover up a row of speaker holes. Also, the edge pieces do not adhere properly on one side due to being a little too short. Some of the corner pieces are a little flimsy and not a perfect fit either. These are minor issues for me, especially since I got the skin for free as a replacement for the skin I had on my TF201. I may consider asking Skinomi for a replacement back, but I'm not sure.

The screen protector takes a few days to dry, which usually eliminates any remaining bubbles or imperfections, and I'm pleased to note that Skinomi has changed their bubble eliminating card from a hard plastic card that would scratch the skin to a silicone wedge card that seems to be more effective.

I use the Skinomi skin and a neoprene case for the tablet, a setup which I am comfortable with in general. I am considering getting a Pelican style waterproof case for hardcore travel, but I don't feel that's necessary at this time.