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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] smayer85:
Funny and yes I agree apple has a lot less phones but at same time HTC has the ota completed and verizon has enough power with them to make them hold it off. Features wise, apps on iPhone have done same stuff Android has been doing for awhile. Just because its not built in does not mean it didn't exist. I like both was just saying apple has enough power to tell carriers they are releasing it so deal with it
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Well the difference is Apple is so locked up they don't let anyone touch the updates so they release through their means.

Sent from my KangBang'd out vivow
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] EVoorhees:
HTC is known to pull this stuff. So, it really isn't a shocker. But, that is why I rooted my phone. Stock Sense after 1 1/2 years gets incredibly boring.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
The problem with this is, HTC has done their part, they released the OTA to Verizon who is now making us all wait.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Why don't you guys search the thread? This was already discussed about 10 times! :banghead:

Verizon are DIx!

Freaking nubes. [/SARCASM]
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ZR2Noma:
Tomorrow, tomorrow, you'll get your OTA tomorrow. :P

CM9'd Inc2 on Xda Premium
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
As I've stated previously. No no no no more~~ tomorrow~~! XD
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ZR2Noma:
O.o why no more tomorrow's???

CM9'd Inc2 on Xda Premium
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
The day after today then?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ZR2Noma:
So tomorrow then?

CM9'd Inc2 on Xda Premium
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ninjasailas:
Let's pull out our DIX and compare
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jcpowell:
Maybe tomorrow eh

sent from my incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
I declare the word tomorrow is a taboo! XD

sent from my Redneck phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bberryhill0:
I'll think about that tomorrow after I play with my DIX.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] OFish202:
Wow..... 75 pages of b****ing and dix jokes!

Sent from my vivow using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
Great isn't it? Lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] msolaw:
That little orphan Annie b lied to us. Tomorrow is NOT only a day away. Maybe it was in the before times... the long long ago... but then Verizon warped the space time continuum. Movie script? Star Trek 3: The Verizon Wars. OK time for more Xanax.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
I've been thinking about trading in my Dix for one of those fancy Pearls. I'd probably want to get a set of buds to go along with the Pearl though.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] seejoshplay:
but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad are we there yet? I hafta go to the bathroom. daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
Ok, so I have serious doubts about this DIx rumor:

http://goo.gl/P75DQ

But if it turned out to be true, I would probably be able to overlook the monstrous size. DIx Nexus would be amazing.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
VERIZON:

Virtually Every Rom Is Zapped (Owners Nodding)

Verizon Eats Righteous Individuals Zoning Out Needlessly

(Sorry, I'm bored of playing with my DIx)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] brokenchains:
I'm really liking the idea of the Incredible X/One X5. Especially if it turns out to be a Nexus phone and with those specs? I'm getting tired of the 4-inch screen, which is why I haven't upgraded to the Inc4g. A 5-inch screen is a little bigger than I've been planning on but I would definitely overlook that. Plus it would make Fruit Ninja so much easier.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
I've been super busy with grad school and waiting for parts to repair my poor Dinc2's broken screen... Seemed like a LOOOONG week! So sad! :( I was just about to flash UKB II ROM when I dropped my phone for the umpteenth time... I thought, what's the worst that could happen? I mean I dropped it several times before. Turns out that the concrete I dropped it on this time was pretty hard. And the screen shattered like a cobweb. It still works but no way in hell Imma living with that till my upgrade half a year or more away... And the damage was possibly accentuated due to a previous impact that caused the front bezel to get deformed by a little. The spiderweb started from the area where the front bezel got deformed previously... (Crossing fingers for a successful repair here!)

Anyway, what was I saying? Oh yeah: Remember the guy who said that this thread was getting weird, around page 50...? Well my guess was right, it is totally bonkers now! :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] OFish202:
I'm a fan! We might not have an ota yet..... But we have this thread! :thumbup::beer:

Sent from my vivow using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] romma1:
The new date for ICS on the Dinc 2 is now the day after tomorrow.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
I want a 5-inch Dix.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] EVoorhees:
I think we all do at one point or another.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nyccharlie:
on a good note, Motorola is working hard to get the ICS update to the droid bionic.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ZR2Noma:
Son of a.... >=[
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Yeah, sometimes my 8" dix is hard to handle.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] msolaw:
I can't wait to play with my dix. Any word on if doing so will cause blindness or going cross eyed?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
Wow the bionic really doesn't have ICS?? Ha and this is why I won't ever buy Motorola again
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Yes, and yes. But only if you're Catholic. ;)

---------- Post added at 08:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:17 PM ----------

HEY! Stay on topic!! Don't tell me you can't work a DIx reference in there somewhere! :silly:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
I'm afraid to take my dix out of my pocket, it might fall on the ground and everyone will stare and say " You should have had protection"
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
The Verizon Gnex just got the JB OTA 2 months after JB was released. On a Nexus....

<pausing to let that message sink in>

Sooooo... I think I can forgive VZW if they are taking about a year to get ICS out on what is probably considered a 3rd tier phone, what with the 3G rather than 4G, 4 inch screen and all..

It is okay VZW. I now know that you guys act like dix not just for the Dinc2 community, but you like to wave your dix at the Gnex community too! :p Not a Dix for one, but a Dix for all!!! Hurray! :D :p

---------- Post added at 04:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:13 PM ----------

I wish I had protection when my Dix fell out (I won't tell from where... :silly:) but I like doing it unprotected! :cool: Yeah, now I have a shattered Dix...

True story. :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
You want dat 5 dalla footlong? XD

sent from my Redneck phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] msolaw:
I'm scared to play with my dix too much. I don't want to get a virus. Are Trojans still out there? If it's too dangerous unprotected maybe I should get a sleeve for my dix? Or will it ruin the "form factor" so to speak? I'm betting a bare dix is the best dix...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
DIX can be put in a sleeve, but haptic feedback is diminished.

-CM7 on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] alochmst98:
I couldn't figure out how to use my DIX, so I bought a RAZR but now my connection keeps dropping out and there's a lot of crashing. Any ideas?

Will I need to solder to restore functionality? I don't want to void the warranty, so maybe tomorrow I'll take it back to the store and have Geek Squad fix it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] brokenchains:
This one really doesn't work in a dirty way. My DIX is super dirty.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
DIX RAZR makes me lol

-CM7 on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] alochmst98:
I'm just saying that this change has been bloody painful for me lately. I shouldn't have bought the RAZR. I'm starting to miss my DIX.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Take your dix. Then take a razr. Then, some magic happens... Tadaaa! Ladies say hello to RazrDix! Sharp, smooth and slow... :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] brokenchains:
That's much better.

Losing a DIX you've had for so long is tough.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] alochmst98:
Now that you get it, reread the first one and try to picture as you read. There are twelve different gags hidden in those four sentences.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] seejoshplay:
ICS with sense is to stock ICS as Tofutti cuties are to ice cream sandwiches. IMO.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Tofu? Is that a premonition for some bad news?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
I see Jelly in our future! The crystal ball shows us some marvelous treats... In three days, we will get our first calling from the higher beings. I say, in 3 days, days, ... ays... ays... ss.... s.

:p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] seejoshplay:
actually, tofutti cuties are pretty good for what they are, you know they are not ice cream, but they are delicious frozen treats. Similarly you know that Sense isn't quite the same as AOSP, but it's good in it's own way. It's own way that takes forever and a freaking day to show up.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Bohnsta:
Genius.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jcpowell:
Question if we every do recieve said update how dramatically will the root/s-off method change?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
You'll probably have to reroot.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
And it may or may not be possible to reroot right away.

Sent from my ICS Dinc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
depending on if existing exploits were closed or not....or what hboot comes with the ota, you could get locked out

emphasis on *could*
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sjpritch25:
I would surprised if the latest downgrade isnt patched.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
We'll figure something out :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Forgive me sire, but who flashes stock ROMs nowadays? Besides, as long as we are S-OFF, I was under the impression that unless you put a bullet through the phone, it is invincible! :) I was rooting for ICS OTA so that the awesome devs will dissect that bad boy and take our precious (aka Kernel) and make awesomesauce with it (aka better and more bug free ICS ROMs) :D And then eventually (hopefully before the end of the world, as interpreted from the Mayan scriptures :p) we get some kernel source and we can get updated kernels for our AOSP ROMs! And hopefully that updated kernel is enough even for Jellybean ROMs! :cyclops: :highfive: That's a lot of ifs and speculation... But we'll get there!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
Ok. *nods and smiles, hoping that wasn't a question*

If you're s-off, you're good. OTA updates won't hurt you. I was thinking more of if you need to get a replacement phone or buy a new one with that on by default.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] blackhand1001:
Your gonna end up with the same crap in 8 months from now.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
If we get ICS tomorrow "I CALLED IT"

Just saying
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jameshmiller:
It's tomorrow................................................................................
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
If it's never, I called it :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
Today is tomorrow. And tomorrow isn't over
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
I called it earlier than you, 3 days ago! :p

Of course, provided we get it today!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
[Image] A desolate wasteland covered with helpless beings,battered and tattered, moaning in the great shadow, leaping into the air in futile attempts. (camera pans back) Looming overhead, the priests of the temples of vzw, cast sideways grimaces, laughing to themselves over the rabble that they have created, that they and they alone control.[/Image]
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] geeheeber:
Pizza for I.C. Wiener? Yeah, ICS isn't coming anytime soon.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Futurama reference!? ICS will come.... in the future! XD

sent from my Redneck phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] pprice520:
well i dont know about the rest of my fellow dinc2 users but ive given up hope on the ics update. (at least until i see it illegitimately)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
To be honest, IDK if would even be that great, or better that Tazz's build. But we still have the kernal source to look forward to...... (change title to -ICS KERNAL SOURCE ANYTIME- :D)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] brokenchains:
Like I said in the reply to your private message, I got it with the original post. I was just saying some of those didn't really apply both ways. Anyway, this is getting too off-topic for an already de-railed thread.

Or is this DIX too far gone?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] pprice520:
You wanna hook me up with a link to tazz rom

follow me on twitter.com/pprice520
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] tmtmaats:
the reason the ICS update is taking so long is really american consumerism and corporations, like vzw, that want to take full advantage of it. americans will throw their perfectly fine smartphone for something new simply because it is new. honestly most people could care less about specs or features, they just want something new. this is why vzw would rather us simply get a new phone with ICS, like their incredibly cheap razr M, then go through the trouble of providing an update to an outdated phone that most people would be eager to get rid of and are no longer. from a business standpoint, it just makes more sense to give your customers a new phone and lock them into a contract than to keep old phones up to date. this works perfectly with the consumer mentality that "new is always better" <- see what i did there! :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Well, I know. I know and I despise those customers who have such mentality... It is wasteful of the resources of this planet, there money, and well it is just plain stupid.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bberryhill0:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1745483
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Macrodroid:
From my understanding, vzw is making sure the update isnt going to break anything... Translation, we're adding all our bloatware rihht now and found that it completely screws up HTC's perfect ics update. We're in the process of fixing our bloatware crap, cause we wouldn't want our customers to be without a perfectly good Rom update that's filled with our crap. If you don't like waiting another 6 months for our completely incompetent technicians to finish f**king this thing up, may we suggest a new phone and an extended contract so we can continue to torture you and fullfil your need for utter disapointment...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] tmtmaats:
haha right on.

"for those of you that want a new phone we got you. for others expecting the update, well have fun waiting!"

-sincerly vzw
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] OFish202:
Now let's not sugar coat it! Tell it like it is!

Sent from my vivow using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bberryhill0:
And in the process totally piss off the people with a year left on their contract. If Verizon doesn't increase their coverage here in the next year I'll go back to USCellular.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kalojado:
I use a special cloth on my Dix, just sayin'
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Verizon should just give us the option to have the bloatware at the beginning. Why make unnecessary tensions? We should all just be friends! XP

sent from my Redneck phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] alochmst98:
The warranty and Geek Squad bits were put in for absurdity. You have to think about what kind of person the character is and you have to visualize story scenes as actually happening, perhaps as part of a screwball comedy show.

I'll leave it at that.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
I believe what you meant to say is that VZW got the update and put all of their bloat on it and it ran too well. They are currently cooking up the most brutal batch of bloat a phone has ever seen so that they can ensure that the people still using non-rooted dinc2s will upgrade as soon as the OTA hits their poor unsuspecting phone.

Sent from my VZW ICS OTA having Dinc2 from "tomorrow" which was cryogenicly frozen and thawed out when tomorrow came then brought back by way of the forward time machine.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
I would agree with you, except for one point. Verizon loves putting us in 2 year contracts and pretending our phones should MSRP at $700 without contract. So they lock us in for two years and then don't support OS updates very well, If they don't want to support it fine, let us unlock our phones with their blessing, and help open source the drivers so that those who care can update to a newer solid OS version. Besides the fact that a phone like the RAZR M should probably MSRP for <= $250 without contract. It costs less than $200 to make the iPhone, so at $250 for the RAZR M, Verizon and Motorola would still make money.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Absolutely. This is exactly what they did to the Dinc. Their last OTA slowed data & caused all kinds of memory issues (at least for many users).

We are nothing more than wells of cash that corporations seek to drain as quickly as possible while keeping us barely alive and still earning. Look into factory farming for an accurate model.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
I'm not gonna be surprised if Verizon ends up adding more apps from Amazon since Verizon did announce that they would do that to their new phones (including the Galaxy Note II if it goes to Verizon) :(

If they're gonna do that to their newer phones, then why not the older phones through OTA? Damn Verizon for making us fat! I hate feeling bloated!

sent from my Redneck phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
typically verizon has contracts with the oem for each phone ie: amount of updates, apps added, etc

usually they wont add stuff to os updates unless the contract is revised
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
So the OTA is being delayed while VSW waits for the newest version of Let's golf. I'm getting a nexus phone as soon as I'm able.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Sincere advise: Get a Nexus phone for a GSM network. You'll never be shackled by the provider anymore. (Case in Point: the recently released JB update for VZW...)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
Verizon pays more than 200 for the iPhones from apple. Most sources say they pay around 450 for each device. They make there money when the lock us in 30 a month for 18 months.

Verizon isn't as greedy as they seem
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
Missed my point. I know Apple rips everyone off. I just used it as a point of comparison. If the iPhone costs less than $200 to manufacture the RAZR M should also be well under $200. Verizon is not paying the $549 per RAZR M that is listed as MSRP. Nor are they paying $450 for it. So why should we pay $549 to get it unlocked and still pay full fees for data? If all phones were sold outside of the carriers we would all be buying high end unlocked phones in the 250-300 range. The hardware makers would still make a profit, and we'd all get our updates more promptly.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Some independent study should make a cost analysis to figure out the "real" manufacturing costs so that we will know exactly how much they are ripping us off by. Because I know I can get a PC built on a 32 nm technology starting at much lesser than $400. Is it the difficulty in putting everything in a TINY package that makes these phones/tablets so costly? Or Is the touchscreen expensive??? I am in no mood to google this, so kindly post me a lmgtfy link! :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
Well as I recall the kindle fire 1st gen was around 212ish (no I don't have a link to prove it) and they figured the nexus 7 was very near but just under the $200 mark. I can't see that shrinking the screen and adding a cell radio and a $5 camera piece would add $250+ to the manufacturing cost of most phones.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] tmtmaats:
it definitely doesnt. the price of phones is artificially inflated to discourage people from buying at no contract prices, which is what most people who still have unlimited plans have to end up doing.

case in point, the iphone vs ipad. the iphone 5 costs $699 w/o contract while the newest ipad is only $499. also its ridiculous that the 2 year old iphone 4 is $450 without a contract. its value isnt even close to that, you can get a laptop for that money. the price is just inflated.

http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
One thing many people don't think of is the software development,engineering and administrative costs. Unlike the devs here, HTC's devs don't work for free. They have to make that money back somewhere. I'm not saying that accounts for all $250, which is probably a pretty good guess for markup from manufacturing. I just wanted to add that in there.

Sent from my ICS Dinc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
That is a rigged system. Same with Textbooks. I find it laughable that a 500 page textbook costs $100-200 when any work of fiction will be accessible under $20 if I am not terribly mistaken. And what I don't understand is HOW in the world is that legal? Same with Academic papers. Given that I am enrolled in a university, I have access to all these academic journals and papers for free essentially. But otherwise, each academic article (basically 5-12 pages, in extreme cases > 30 pages) is at least $20! Laughable! Firstly knowledge should be free and secondly why do journals like science and nature and IEEE charge soo much! Greedy jerks..

Anyway, after returning from this tangential discussion, point is, HOW can it be legal to charge whatever the hell I want for a product? Shouldn't it be illegal to rig a system like this? Viz-a-viz smart phones/textbooks/etc.? If it isn't, I think we can all agree that it should be.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
Good point, but a lot of us would gladly forego the HTC and Verizon dev costs... So they are charging many of us for no value added.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Wait till page 100. That woman's eyes will simply pop out, then!! :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
You know, I wouldn't care about how expensive a phone is off contact if I could just upgrade every 8 months.

8 * 30 is 240, so don't tell me that Verizon wouldn't be making money off the initial 250 + and the data (240) equalls 490 for Verizon.

So 490-200 to 400 (that Verizon pays for the phone is at least 90$ profit.

That's what happens when I care about how expensive a phone is off contact
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kalojado:
I don't know if this is good or bad or anything for that matter... But I was checking the update pages thru Verizon and while the incredible 2 doesn't say much, the thunderbolt page says coming soon. I am not sure how long it has said that or if its new... But the galaxy nexus also says coming soon and they just got jelly bean. I only mention this because thunderbolt owners are in the same boat as us and if by chance theirs is coming I would think we wouldn't be far behind. Again, just speculation, but here is the page for the thunderbolt: http://support.verizonwireless.com/system_update/thunderbolt.html
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Truckin'Ain't4Sissies:
My DIX parts the seas

Your DIX farts and queefs

My DIX - rumble in the jungle

Your DIX got touched by your uncle

-Truckin-