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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thedauntlessone:
EDIT: I may have misinterpreted your question, but go flash a stock odex/deodex rom with root with zero customization. Scott is nice enough to do that for users like you.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
Phew! Dodged a bullet there!

I totally get what you're saying but it's always people asking the same questions over and over again. Suggesting that people flash a rooted stock ROM instead is seriously the best advice we can give, and people don't want to take our advice, and then they come back with "I updated and now I can't root" threads that are equally annoying. So you didn't take my advice, then you screwed yourself, and now you are asking for my advice again? Sorry buddy, you're on your own.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SoberGuy:
I understand what you're saying. You root, so that's cool. I think the question marks are around those that don't root. I mean, there's like nothing to do if you aren't at least rooted. You're rooted, so carry on. I don't think anyone is really getting on your case.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
Yep. It takes us more time to type up an answer to their questions than it would have for them to just search for it themselves. I've said it before a thousand times- If you don't put any effort into helping yourself, then I won't put any effort into helping you. And for the love of god, don't tell me you searched when I know for a fact you didn't. You insult my intelligence.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] daneren2005:
It sure has been seeming that way when everyone keeps saying that we should just flash a stock from, especially in response to questions of whether anyone has tried to keep root with Root Keeper. In fact has anyone even asked anything about what happens without rooting in this thread? All I saw was some people saying what happened when the updated when they didn't have root, not asking what would happen.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] daneren2005:
I don't understand what any of this has to do with what I said. I didn't say anything about needing to custom rom to root
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
In a nutshell here is what my intentions were when I started this thread

1) The New OTA removes every exploit we have for obtaining root, and in turn being able to unlock the boot loader.

2) I wanted to warn people who cared about such things about this situation.

3) The New OTA also writes a new HBOOT version.

4) People who care about such things would lose their nandroid backups and be unable to restore to a ROM based on previous HBOOT.

5) If all you want is root, do it now.

In other words, IF YOU ARE A HACKER/FLASHAHOLIC TYPE PERSON

DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!

If you aren't then fine install the OTA and continue to enjoy your phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
It was a continuation of thedauntlessone's thoughts.

Sorry for derailing your thread, friend.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
You didn't. The best way to avoid this whole mess is to root, and then install a custom ROM or install scrossler's rooted version of 2.20.

Isn't that essentially what you've been saying?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
Yessir it is.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jessgerb:
Gunnyman and metalhead thanks so much for your words of wisdom. Just unlocked downloader and now have the new Rom and rooted. Thanks

Everyone these guys know what they are doing listen to them lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Fidelio_o:
Waiting on Gunny to start his root bounty thread for 2.20.502.7 lol, we need to get devs motivated and working on this.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I'm out of the bounty business. Some not so nice things were said to me behind the scenes about the way I handled things last time.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
Glad you did it the right way. Next step- CleanROM!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jessgerb:
For some reason I didn't like clean rom it decreased my battery life tremendously and service turned bad.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
You just flashed it less then a couple of hours ago its always a good practice when flashing roms to give them a day to settle before making judgments especially about battery llife.

Sent from my Nocturnalized Beast
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jessgerb:
No I had previously had many roms like cyanogenmod and cleanrom, I just didn't like it that much so I relocked bootloader and returned to stock
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
I know battery life is somewhat subjective but vaste consensus for us users of CleanRoms is that battery life is actually very very good (improved ?) and I concur with E.Cadro you should always go through a few charging cycles before making a judgement.

And yes people you should stop asking about the OTA and whether rootkeeper will work or not, there is no good reason to ota update since there is a stock 2.20 rooted rom available (thank you Scott) if the "stock" experience is what you're looking for.;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Psionfenix:
Except it places people like me in a conundrum. I'm a flashaholic, So going custom rom isnt a big deal, EXCEPT in this case. I got my upgrade early because of issues with my inspire (signal dropping out something fierce). So i now have 30 days to make sure this phone isn't going to do that. If it does, i have to send it back and cancel my contract. BUT, if i have ***TAMPERED*** in my bootloader, they'll probably charge me for the phone (600 bucks or so?). Basically i'd have to keep the contract and be stuck for another 2 years (if the service sucked and i unlocked/relocked BL).

Sure, postpone the OTA for a week (and by then i'd have a good idea about signal strength overall), but it just told me i postponed it for hte last time. Custom recovery and risk it....or allow ota and risk not getting root.

lol.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Tampered won't NECESSARILY void your warranty with AT&T. I've not had any problems swapping out phones I've rooted. As long as you return it with stock firmware, unrooted, they more than likely won't care. If they do, you have a 1 year warranty with HTC anyway. They are a LOT more lenient with regards to repairing bootloader unlocked phones. As long as YOU didn't brick it or cause the malfunction, you're fine.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Psionfenix:
Yeah. I'm pretty good with my phones. I can always claim i put recovery on it just to make a backup (in case "something ever happened" and give them a story about how one day i did an oTA and lost everything....LOL)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
There are stories on Android central claiming that the OTA is bricking some phones anyway, so you can always jump on THAT bandwagon :p

(lying is wrong I don't condone it but see my sig...)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Psionfenix:
I condone it when it happens to me first. ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Vendetta-NY:
Root and debloat. If it's like mine, the ota will just fail.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Psionfenix:
Yeah, i did freeze some apps (like i said, gotta give it a test drive before commiting for 2 years with no signal, but it seems way better anway...about to unlock BLer and call it a day.

Its been killer on me to not have done it yet (got the phone 4 days ago, its been eating away at me)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
seems like the debloating is what causes the ota to fail. Have you tried re installing all the sys apps you removed, that seems to fix the issue.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I think he WANTS the OTA to fail, so he can still root his 1.85
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Vendetta-NY:
Bingo! Except I'm already rooted. I'll unlock and flash the rooted 2.20 or another rom. Never done this before though, so I'm not in any particular rush. ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Psionfenix:
while we're here...I did go ahead and install the stock rooted rom (2.20)...and i'm still getting the notification about the update...should i click okay, let it download and then fail? and it will leave me alone?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
No!!!! It may not fail and then your sol

Sent from my Nocturnalized Beast
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
when you're ready: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1671237. good luck. let the fun begin....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Psionfenix:
Well, it said something about rebooting, I said "okay" (actually gave me no choice in the matter, i was hitting back over and over, and it started popping up sooner it seemed, but i have 30 days i would have taken it back and told them F-U). it took me to recovery, I flashed the 2.2 radio while i was there, rebooted, and still have root (and no pop up as of yet, thank god, that was annoying, i hate OTAs)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
You could debloat/remove an att sys app you don't need (lots of them lol) and it should stop the ota notification.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I don't have the stock 2.20 rom to pick apart but I think there's a service called htcsoftwareup date or something similar. If you find that and freeze it with titanium backup you're golden.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Psionfenix:
I had frozen most of them anyway, still got the notification (pre-unlock/recovery).

Here's what i did when it started downloading the update (wouldnt let me postpone anymore, thank god i woke up early, lol).

It wouldnt let me mount as disk because the ota was downloading, selecting airplane mode, that paused the OTA (so it never completed, so i wasn't particularly worried), mounted as disk, copied over the rooted 2.2 rom , rebooted into recovery, installed that, rebooted. Still gave me the notification, hit back to leave it, it kept coming back up, so i hit ok (why not, at this point, cant use the phone for anything anyway with that popup). It rebooted into recovery, i flashed the 2.2 radio, rebooted, no popup.

Now i may actually just remove the apps i froze since i dont need them, or install a custom rom, etc. But i figure that info might be useful.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] KitF:
So the changelog had this:

Anyone figure out what this means? Can someone check /system/etc/nfcee_access.xml to see if we get regular secure element keys?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
So working google wallet now?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eraste:
Just part if the wiki on NFC :

Commerce NFC devices can be used in contactless payment systems, similar to those currently used in credit cards and electronic ticket smartcards, and allow mobile payment to replace or supplement these systems. For example, Google Wallet allows consumers to store credit card and store loyalty card information in a virtual wallet and then use an NFC-enabled device at terminals that also accept MasterCard PayPass transactions. [7] Germany, [8] Austria, [9] Latvia [citation needed] and Italy [10] have trialled NFC ticketing systems for public transport. China is using it all over the country in public bus transport [citation needed] and India is implementing NFC based transactions in box offices for ticketing purposes. [11]

Uses of NFC include: Matching encrypted security code and transporting access key; Due to short transmission range, NFC-based transactions are possibly secure; Instant payments and coupon delivery using your handset, as we do with your credit card or debit card; Marketing and exchange of information such as schedules, maps, business card and coupon delivery using NFC Marketing tags ; Pay for items just by waving your phone over the NFC capable devices Transferring images, posters for displaying and printing Social media e.g. Like on Facebook, Follow on Twitter via NFC smart stickers in retail stores

Maybe they fixed a work around for google wallet in att? Anyone try yet?

scribed on my 2.20 HOX
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
Ill check hold up
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eraste:
Got this error :(

scribed on my 2.20 HOX
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] chivamex10:
So I did the update last night. I was never rooted but I did do a sim card unlock. So far I haven't noticed a difference? What was so big about this update? Still having the recent apps issue
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
ignorance is bliss...If you were never rooted, it's not gonna happen now (at least until there is a new exploit found) :eek:

It did update your version of Android to 4.0.4 which should be snappier and address some connectivity issues with a new radio as well as free some ram,...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Alcoholic:
Did you guys see the sense 4.1 leak? it seems to be different than the OTA we just got.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] samlingx:
I believe that leak applies to the international One X only.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Tankmetal:
Will ATT still push the OTA to my phone if I am running clean rom?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
Nope.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Fidelio_o:
Mines came with 2.20 so I was screwed. Went to the store today gave them some flak about how the update drains my battery and stuff not working. Got a replacement on the spit that's running 1.85 now I'm rooted and loving it lol btw I'm in NYC this is was with the update available still let me achieve root.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nrap:
i've been postponing the update since it hit my phone for a few days now. waiting to see what comes of it

but now my phone is now telling me i cannot postpone the update any longer.

im rooted but not unlocked.

is there a way around this?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Unlock. Then install twrp recovery then flash scrosler's rooted 2.20 if you want a stock rooted experience or the rom of your choice. Do this to secure your ability to easily flash the rom of your choice in the future.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nrap:
crap

is that really my only option?

im not in a place where i want to do all that stuff for the next few days.

someone halp.

is there a program i can freeze or something through Ti Backup?

anything?

:crying:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Well since you're boot loader is unlocked it may fail anyway. I don't know. If it does succeed however you're still ok. You have an unlocked boot loader so you can still root. When it comes to flashing custom roms you will just have to flash boot.img with fast boot instead of recovery.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nrap:
im rooted not unlocked yet.

i would unlock but im not at a place where i can do that for a few days
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
Better find a place quick. Lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] aooga:
My phone that i just got today came with 2.20 :(

That means that i would have to wait for a new exploit right?

stupid Costco updated the phone btw...they asked me..i said yeah sure without knowing this (should have read up online before i bought the phone)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
Take it back. Get a new one.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] GSLEON3:
LAAAAAAAAAAAZY...That's why they started charging 35.00 restock fees.

Man...Just do a little reading. I have installed the OTA, have flashed the factory RUU & was able to root, kept SuperCID & just used my original bin file to unlock the BL for flashing. Like I said, I have used the OTA & flashed RUU_EVITA_UL_ICS_40_S_Cingular_US_2.20.502.7_Radio_0.19as.32.09.11_2_10.105.32.25L_release_271865_signed. Just used adb, installed stock recovery, relocked, flashed, used old bin file, rooted & installed twrp. SuperCID stuck, but the HTC message went bye-bye.

Maybe when I get a min, I'll write a step by step, but it's really out there already if you look. BTW, The 2.2.0 radio works better for me in the DFW area.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dtp7:
Question: for people that did the OTA, I know you have to flash boot.img in recovery if you're flashing a custom rom, but do you also have to do that when restoring a nandroid backup?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Your nandroids are now useless as far as I know.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Wondering if someone who took the update can confirm this?

Sent from my Nocturnalized Beast
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eraste:
Any nandroid made before the OTA are no longer good if you update due to different h boots. As far as a nandroid after OTA I dunno if one could restore normally or not.

scribed on my 2.20 HOX
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mushat3k:
I accepted the OTA and have a fresh backup of cleanrom 4.5 that I made last night. I'll flash it and see what happens and report back
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dtp7:
Yeah, I know the old ones are of no use, but I meant if you were to use one post-update. Looking forward to seeing if the kernel flashes for you. I'd assume it won't work but it would be nice if it did!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mushat3k:
I made a nandroid last night post update. Just restored and had no issues. For some reason restoring the boot partition took 313 seconds, I thought it was screwed but it finally restored it. I ended up hitting the power button after a long wait of it restoring the boot and it came up with the twrp lockscreen, then it finished. I deleted all my pre update backups so unsure if those work, even though I'm sure they wouldn't
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Good to know we can still use nandroids. Thank you.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] superchilpil:
They might work depending on the kernel, if the Rom is compatible with the stock sense kernel or what every kernel you have on their then your nandroids will work

It will say it restores the boot.IMG but really it fails
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] aooga:
I don't know what any of those words mean. :)

I think I'll wait for the noob way of doing it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I predict a flood of OMG I can't root posts in 3...2...1...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Alcoholic:
Excellent. Wasn't expecting this to be 4.0.4. I'll obviously wait for cleanrom to use the AT&T instead of asian rom.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ethantarheels123:
a bit off topic lol but in your sig it says whereabouts unknown. your son or phone?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] iElvis:
LOL

iPhone, obviously. He lost it after he got an Xperia Play.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Fidelio_o:
My phone came stock with 2.20.502.7.710rd just got it today. After returning my GS3 just my luck....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
well a lot of what we have been rooting for has been fixed. can you remap your recents button? It's in settings if this is the same as the asian leak
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Andrews0508:
You're back?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
yeah. Its nice that I was missed.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Alcoholic:
Yes! Please check this.

It's in setting -> Display, gestures & buttons -> Recent apps button
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ethantarheels123:
lol ok i was about to say BAD DADDY!! lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Fidelio_o:
Yeah its 4.0.4 and you can remap the buttons. Ill suck it up for now lol, happened to me with the last one also I got my previous htc one xl when they came out with 1.85 first day after available in store. lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
I really don't like the way HTC implemented it, I think the flashable mod for 1.85 was better. With the mod, the recents button became menu/settings so you can hit it while on your home screen and bring up the settings/wallpaper/etc.. dialog box. With the official HTC remap, it is only for menu so if you hit it while on a homescreen it does nothing. You still need to pull down your notifications to get into settings. Annoying.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Fidelio_o:
1.85 root wont work. I tried. would get as far as adb rebooting, it would reboot the phone than fail.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
no go on turning wifi, and data off. u guys think my unlock tokens might work? just try and unlock bootloader via fastboot

fastboot flash unlocktoken unlock_code.bin, its worth a shot. ill report back.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] iElvis:
Unlock tokens are unique to each phone, unfortunately.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
i didnt get that far, check your app drawer.....everytime i ever ran it before.......it said fail, but i checked app drawer and super su was there, i would click on it and it would say binaries not installed. i would then set my date 2 days ahead and run root again. always worked the second time. seems it would then install binaries.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
I nominate Gunny to head up the root bounty thread :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ethantarheels123:
nice quote!!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] iElvis:
I think maybe he was trying to reply to me?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ethantarheels123:
lol probably
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dtp7:
That's what I was wondering. So we will have to flash kernel for nandroids too, good to know.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
Just an fyi to those that did not want the upgrade and were rooted and unlocked before.

Vin was able to downgrade his hboot ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1671135

Sent from my Nocturnalized Beast
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
So its reported working for sure?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eraste:
id like to know to....!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
Nope. Vinny says hes still on the same hboot. 1.14 however, the firmware was successfully downgraded. But not the hboot. Hopefully this will lead to something though.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
Downgrading hboot will he next to impossible. they added write protection to that partition in the updated hboot.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] zounduser:
So now what? Im good, i got my replacement with old firm so.........im good again! :D

Sent from my HTC One XL using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] abhipati:
I still did not root my phone (1.85) , but I did not software update notification still ?? Am I alone ?? with slow update

From beast called HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] sinco54:
Freeeeebird!!!!!!!!!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] rob219:
just to add a little something to this topic. I killed my one x 3 days ago. its stuck in DL mode. so I got a warranty replacement next day from at&t. unless your getting a brand new one x in the box, I'm pretty sure (like mine) your getting a refurbished one and it comes with 2.20 already on it. it was the first thing I checked when it came because I was about to instantly root it as I usually do, bit not this time. just a little info.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] sinco54:
dully noted, guess i got lucky a few weeks ago with the 1.85 cause i ran home unlocked the loader via htcdev and rooted... Would like to know if i can ever get the Hboot screen to read "locked" again instead of "Tampered" if i have a warranty issue.. hmmmm.. But thats another thread down the road..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] joshyy_rey:
That's weird I got my refurbished one x on Tuesday for a warranty replacement for a sgs2. And so did like 4 other guys on the sgs2 forum, and we all got 1.85. Interesting there must be a mix bag out there
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kamots:
+1