yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] flez1966:
ok long and short of it is, no delay...

it 'seems' or i should say 'feels' to have one if i watch the tv, if i watch the phone the feeling of delay goes away, maybe its just as i was expecting it, i sensed it...

but watching it, the tv and phone are just as in sync as they are on the timer video.

I think the reason it feels to have one on the tv is its 42'' and it just looks different...

After 10 mins, I noticed if i had the phone screen on, i felt the delay, if i turned the screen off with the app, the delay felt about half as much or went away, but as there is no delay visible, its just a feeling and i cant explain it that its just a preconception....

would have uploaded a video but its late and pointless as whats on the phone screen matches the tv screen.

What i also found odd is all 11 pins are on the same side of the connector......... but only the first 5 can be seen at the end of it, so must be two rows of connectors one in front of the other. shocked by that. a nightmare for accuracy in alignment,,,
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ZenInsight:
That's a very fair assesment. It seems like if the phone screen is off, then the game becomes at least "playable" without being annoying in noticing the delay. Do you agree?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] flez1966:
No, as I said i can see no frame delay in the two video streams, but i seem to feel a sensor delay if I 'look' at the tv, but not the phone.......

this feeling is irrespective if the phone screen is blanked or not, but it feels less if it is blanked, maybe because I know I cant look at it, it feels a real delay, but as the sensors do not know which screen i am looking at, it /has/ to be psychological.

MHL cable is based on the sil9292cnuc chip,

https://plus.google.com/photos/1004...s/5817887964646385937?authkey=CM2rre2N9uycxQE
[Galaxy S III Accessories] genius.lizard2:
did anyone test Galaxy Note™ II Smart Dock? with S3.

OTG+MHL+Power+Keyboard!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] flez1966:
It should not work. its not electrically compatible, s3/note2 have gone to 11 pin micro usb, s2 is a 5pin micro usb.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] scarrmrcc:
read what you quoted again....

the note II dock is what he asked about, and asked about using an s3.

anyway, here is where it gets tricky: electrically they SHOULD match, and some sites say they do, but some people have found they do not...

thing is, there is different S3's, and in different countries the note II dock has different part #'s so some may work with others, and some may not. we do not have a concrete answer yet... until we have a WHY. but with a why, we should be able to figure out how to make it work.

are they available in the US yet? if so I will get one, and do some testing and if needs be modding.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] flez1966:
Ooooppss.

well i can tell you that an s2 mhl cable in a 5 to 11pin adapter works in both the s3(uk) and the note2(uk n7100), tried it, it works better in the s3 as the home screen rotates, does not on the note 2

As I just toasted the mhl chip with a faulty tv(dont ask), I got bored and took the plug on the adapter apart..
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mchlwvr614:
Do all 11 pins come out to the pcb? Or just the 6 mhl pins?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ZenInsight:
Home screen rotations is not due to adapter. It's because of touchwiz. Use Nova or an app to force home screen rotation.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] flez1966:
Yeah getthat about the rotation, just waiting for a new 11 to 5 adapter for the cable to arrive or I can do anything else..
[Galaxy S III Accessories] genius.lizard2:
GUYS!!!!!!!!!!

is these true?????????? ::

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/705329217/For_Samsung_Galaxy_S3_TV_out.html

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/696408707/Galaxy_S3_TV_Out_Cable.html

1.galaxy s3 tv out cable

2.Share data with Micro USB

Can we use both? or one the time
[Galaxy S III Accessories] GoldenBadger:
Fear not. In the pictures you can see that only pin 1 and 4 of the USB are connecte. This Pins are Ground and 5V.

Looks like the USB cabel is only for power. Just another form of an MHL adapter :(
[Galaxy S III Accessories] scarrmrcc:
ACTUALLY I have had that cable, all the pins are there (the outer ones are just longer. for some reason) but internally they are not hooked up, nor does it have the right resistor to work for data. that cable COULD be turned into what you need... maybe, but the MHL portion is glitchy.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ZenInsight:
What am I missing here. Those are both just MHL adapters. The USB piece you see is to power the adapter. It also has the HDMI on the end male, instead of female. This is just like the Shiva version of MHL.

Plus, it take minimum of 200 from one and 500 from the other quantity to buy them. Not that you would. Anyway. USB is for power, not data.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] brb8two:
Any Progress on this adapter project?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] flez1966:
My work on it 'stalled' after i destroyed my 11 to 5 pin adapter, I'monline tonight as this afternoon a new adpater finally came from hk, its a different style to my last metal one in my pictures, this is the rounded plastic type. still trying to get the plastic off so i can see how many pins are connected and if it has an internal resistor...

One thing I have found odd, on ebay they are selling spare USB connectors for the s3 to solder back to the s3 mainboard, they only have 7 pins......

so does the s3/note2 internally only have 2 power, 1 id, 2 usb, 2 mhl... thats 7 pins... 4 of the 11 unused...

tomorrow I'm off to the resistor shop for a bundle of values to play
[Galaxy S III Accessories] NuclearEMP:
I purchased the Note2 dock that has HDMI and 3 USB ports and only the HDMI works with the S3.

No matter what I do I cannot get the OTG to function.

Other than a possible hardware difference maybe its kernel based???
[Galaxy S III Accessories] flez1966:
have you tried another phone, preferebly a note2? if it works with a note2 then you know its a wiring / id resistor issue, if not then its faulty
[Galaxy S III Accessories] brb8two:
After Reading a few posts about this, I'd thought I'd give it a try also. I have just ordered (& now waiting) for;

USB Female OTG Adapter

Micro USB to 1080P HDMI MHL Adapter

Micro 5-Pin to 11-Pin Converter Adapter

Edit found a cheaper USB Female OTG Adapter to use next time (If all goes well)

My thoughts are to cut the Micro USB off the "USB Female OTG Adapter" and solder the wires inside the "Micro 5-Pin to 11-Pin Converter Adapter" directly to the micro USB leads off of the connector. due to the plastic shell of the "Micro 5-Pin to 11-Pin Converter Adapter" drilling a cable sized hole for the "USB Female OTG Adapter" fly lead, should help to make this look like a off the shelf product.

I'm still looking at ordering the resister tho. (hopefully I can get the right value at work for free) otherwise RS;

Another post listed that a ~45.3K resister in parallel with the MHL adaptor one would result in the ~40k value needed for this.

So I was looking to buy this one Resistor,chip,SMT,0201,0.05W,1%,45.3K
[Galaxy S III Accessories] arghness:
Are you running a stock 4.1.2 kernel? Make sure that you test with that first.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] NuclearEMP:
running GalaxyMod RLS14.1 and about to flash RLS15

is there any 4.1.2 TW roms of the I535???
[Galaxy S III Accessories] arghness:
I believe that support for the dock was only enabled in official 4.1.2 ROMs, from previous reports on here. Sorry, but I haven't followed the i535 at all, so not sure what's available for it -- this isn't the i535 forum :)
[Galaxy S III Accessories] flez1966:
desk dock/media dock worked on 4.1.1 not seen a 4.1.2 to verify, it does not rotate on a note, and car dock is 'dead' apparently on 4.1.2 onward but now has 'smart dock'

smart dock /seems/ to need a hw mod/new resistor value
[Galaxy S III Accessories] arghness:
The description from NuclearEMP (HDMI + 3 USB ports) indicates that it's the Note 2 Smart Dock that is being used, which should "just work" with 4.1.2 on an i9300.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] brb8two:
This is the Info Graphic I've made of this Micro 5-Pin to 11-Pin Converter Adapter

I found a cheaper (most likely Identical) USB Female OTG Adapter that I'll use next time (If all goes well)

This Micro 5-Pin to 11-Pin Converter Adapter + Micro USB to 1080P HDMI MHL Adapter works for HDMI output

The USB Female OTG cable works separately also

Now the Magic to combine them. & try resistors (as listed from this page)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1811435&highlight=40+2k&page=3
[Galaxy S III Accessories] NuclearEMP:
I do have the Note 2 Smart Dock. I am running 4.1.2 GalaxyMod rom but still not fully functioning

Does anyone know where to enable it?

anyone want to trade it for a official Samsung GS3 MHL adapter? :)

unless I can get it to work fully :D
[Galaxy S III Accessories] arghness:
GalaxyMod? Is that an i9300 ROM?

Ah... just realised this forum is shared between the different Galaxy S3 versions. The i9300 is reported to work with the dock and stock 4.1.2. I've no idea about other versions.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] flez1966:
i would only use a 100% stock rom to test, and then early ones, as samsung have been removing dock features.(ie car dock)
[Galaxy S III Accessories] calmfury:
Results so far

I have assembled a dual purpose cable with all pins connected (usb + mhl). I used the metal cased ebay 5 pin to 11 pin adapter (a little time in the oven was required to melt the plastic end caps enough to pull the board out). It comes with a surface mount 1k resistor between the ground and id pins. I removed this and connected a 40.2K equivalent, added the additional wires for usb data and connected them to two micro usb connectors. when I plug this hybrid cable into the phone I get the expected dock connected notification tone and icon in the notification bar as well as hdmi output. The bad news is that USB devices are not recognized by the phone. If I short the ground and id pins together prior to plugging the cable in I get usb host functionality with no hdmi. The phone recognizes the cable as a usb host connector. I believe there is something that needs to happen at a software level to force the usb chip inside the phone into host mode when the dock is connected and that is not happening at this point. I'm thinking the isssue is a hook that talks to the usb chips' kernel driver. I am using a t-mobile note 2 on stock firmware. I have downloaded the source from samsung for my phone and the international version that is reported to work with the smartdock. My next effort will be to locate any difference in the code relating to the smart dock feature.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] flez1966:
This is what Iexpected to happen, but I have had to leave phones for a while as I have to rebuild a car..

I'm putting my money on the resistor being wrong, thats why when I ordered the parts I ordered 2 500k variable resistors so i could go from virtually 0 to 999k etc and hope to hit it..
[Galaxy S III Accessories] calmfury:
I'm

Should have given better references. Search on s3 and mhl+otg. The value given in that thread is 40.2k. As mentioned in my previous post the dock notification displays in the notification bar. Which indicates the the cable is correctly identified. Another mentioned the possibility of a kernel configuration issue. There are other potenial issues such as needing to spoof the usb device id of the dock or even the possibility that their is some region coding and the resistor value is different based on the specific carrier/region variant.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] calmfury:
Where in the kernel source did you find these values? I would like to verify that they arethe same tor the note 2.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ZenInsight:
WOW! You rock man. Good luck. I would buy this cable from you if you get it working. It's basically an 11 pin Y connector...male to two females...right?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] hakkun:
So only solution to get MHL+OTG working is the Note2 Dockingstation? Is that right?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ZenInsight:
so far....
[Galaxy S III Accessories] calmfury:
I wouldn't say that I rock. The cable is not working as intended and the pitch on the pins is incredibly tight so it was a pain to assemble. I killed two 11 pin connectors before I got a 'good' cable. As it stands I have two usb cables connected to the 11 pin connector. One of them is wired to the MHL pins and goes to the mhl adapter the other is wired to the usb pins and goes to two mico usb ports in connected in parallel. I will probably post pictures later tonight when I get home. I am in need of additional information to determine why this does not work as expected. I do not have access to a Linux machine to do download the source and search through it atm. Github searches are painfull at best so far.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ZenInsight:
LogCat?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] calmfury:
=True
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ZenInsight:
I hear CatLog is really goo too.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nolanlawson.logcat&hl=en
[Galaxy S III Accessories] calmfury:
Some pics of the hybrid cable. It is pretty much the same as seen in this thread with the differences being an eleven pin connector going to the phone and the MHL dongle at one end. I have found some information about the resistor values in cmenard's github for the t889. I see the 40.2K value for the smartdock there. When I have enough time I will look at the equivalent vanilla samsung source. I ran

logcat *:d

and saw nothing when the dock was attached so the next step is rooting so that I can run dmesg. The other thread mentions kernel messages and mhl so i think it is worth a look.

I welcome any useful insight to further this effort.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ZenInsight:
I'm pretty sure that you have to be rooted for those logs to be of any real help. :)
[Galaxy S III Accessories] HMkX2:
A guy named necomer got it working on 4.1.1. He posted pinouts and everything. (AT&T SGH-I747)

"DIY SmartDock on Galaxy S3" thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFzX6NlKJBU&feature=youtu.be

It seems you need the correct combination of Kernel/ROM + Android Version to get it working. Someone said something about needing a patch only rolled out in Germany. Lots of misinformation floating around.

Footnotes to self:

Cheap list of parts to do this (Post 73)

Awesome large pic of one 11->5 adapter

Resistance values to activate various modes (I9300)

Confirmation Note 2 Smart Dock works with 4.1.2 stock with OTA in Germany

Errata about Note2 MHL behavior

Working USB OTG + Charging thread - comments on Resistors and Tolerances

Comments about MHL support in CyanogenMod 10.1
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ZenInsight:
I just asked if I could buy one from him to try it out on the Note. May be I should just send it to you if he sells me one for you to mess around with.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] calmfury:
This is essentially the same thing that I did. That thread has been one of my primary sources of info. I am running 4.1.2 so that is likely my problem. I sounds like I need to get my hands on the German 4.1.2 OTA/ pensource release and see what the differences between that and the US(tmob) are.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] calmfury:
I diffed the International and t-mobile kernel sources and the code for the dock is absent. I will be building a new kernel in the next few days. Hopefully that will get me squared away.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] flez1966:
can this missing code be integrated back into other kernels for people not running stock ones?

Sorry if this is a dumb questions I ''dont do android'' lol
[Galaxy S III Accessories] calmfury:
Honeslty, I'm not sure. I think the rom will need to support the capability as well.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] calmfury:
Built my kernel now problem flashing

Downloaded the sgh-t889 source and built the kernel but can't flash it. I took the zImage output and tarred it up. When I try to flash this is what I get:

<ID:0/005> Added!!

<ID:0/005> Odin v.3 engine (ID:5)..

<ID:0/005> File analysis..

<ID:0/005> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/005> Initialzation..

<ID:0/005> Get PIT for mapping..

<ID:0/005> Firmware update start..

<ID:0/005> zImage

<ID:0/005> NAND Write Start!

... and then it hangs. Any advice?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] calmfury:
So you can't flash a zImage with Odin? That Is my take away from the efforts associated with my previous post. I was able to get the kernel flashed by usings the abootimg util to inject my custom zImage into an existing boot.img and then rolling that into an existing kernel update.zip. The down side is that kernel my mods need more work to get USB host working with MHL and the softkeys are not working!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] brb8two:
After wanting to have this cheap USB OTG & MHL Adaptor created, there is now a cheap product that anyone can buy from DX

MHL to HDMI OTG Card Reader for Samsung
[Galaxy S III Accessories] cyberdiamond.steve:
Great news now all I need is a 11 pin extension cable

Anyone know where to get one?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ZenInsight:
Did you ever buy this? Does it charge and output to HDMI at the same time?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] djzoak:
I bougth one and yes. The phone charges at same time as otg and mhl are plugged in. It's the best gadget i tried from now. I used it with a power supplied hub and with a keyboard and a mouse connected and everything works fine but the image on the mhl disconnects for 1 or 2 seconds from time to time. Nothing to worrie about with the connectivity gain that you experinced.

Highly recomended surely.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ZenInsight:
Yep

http://www.usbfirewire.com/Parts/rr-mhl-ext-xxg.html

Thanks...check out the link in this post. ;)
[Galaxy S III Accessories] cyberdiamond.steve:
Yeah I have seen that but it costs 150% of the convertor.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] HyperEscape:
Hello,

I am also looking for a similar smart dock with USB-OTG, Charging and HDMI output for my potential buying of Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition. I believe this tablet does offer the same via standard 11-pin micro USB connector (instead of the propreitary Samsung connector used in earlier models). Please see my thread here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2566345

I was able to find a couple of smart docks, which are adverstised to work with GNII/III and Galaxy S3/S4, all of which I believe do have the 11-pin micro USB MHL connector. Please have a look at the following

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-Multimedia-Dock-HDMI-USB-Dock-Station-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-2-Galaxy-S4-I9500-S3/1439104485.html

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-High-Quality-HDMI-Smart-Multimedia-Dock-Charger-Station-Cradle-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-2-II/1405399957.html

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Multimedia-Dock-station-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-2-N7100-S3-S4-with-audio-out-and/1422156460.html

All of them are advertised to do all the functions simultaneously at the same time , that is "OTG + HDMI + Charging".

So based on the collective knowledge of the members on this thread, I need to know

1. Does any of you have tried this or a similar dock and found all functions to be working simultaneously and satisfactorily.

2. By a long shot, since S3/S4 also have an 11pin micro USB connector, have any of you tried or can comment on whether this dock would work with a Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 tablet. Theoretically and technically , i think it should but need your advice.

Thanks for reading and your feedback.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Hinsung:
MHL OTG Adapter & OTG MHL Charging Dock

My company (Shenzhen Hinsung Electronics Co., Ltd.) can manufacture MHL&OTG adapters and OTG MHL charging docks. You can see them on hinsung dot com.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sushil432:
mhl and otg for gt-i9300 (samsung galaxy s III)

i modified my mhl cable and connected usb female to it. and now using mhl+otg with my gt-i9300 ( samsung galaxy sIII).
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sushil432:
mhl and otg for gt-i9300 (samsung galaxy s III)

I did it. Mhl+otg
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Mondingo:
Anybody recently check for system updates.. I did just for the he'll of it and got an update. New Software V.2.20. It took about 15 minutes to update. Anybody have any idea what the update fixes or changes?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
check your android version. Is it 4.04?

I think you've just closed any loopholes to rooting and unlocking the boot loader. :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] iElvis:
Where is that warning thread? Someone need to bump it asap.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Mondingo:
Oops! Well it is.. but I'm not much into rooting or changing Roms anyway. Do you know besides locking the bootloader what else this android version does? Thanks! If anything..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
if it's 4.04 android you'll have more RAM and thus better multitasking. If it's similar to the leak from Asia, you can change the behavior of the recent apps button in settings. You can make it be the menu button, like god intended.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
Not into rooting? You know this is xda and not Android Central, right? :p
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
Don't know, why don't you tell us? :P

---------- Post added at 03:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:13 PM ----------

Also, some have mentioned that the multitasking memory management itself seems tweaked in the Asia 2.23 ROM. Its less aggressive about killing apps. Personally, I've been fine with the multitasking thing, so I haven't noticed much of a difference.

Other changes from the 2.23 Asia ROM, aside from the ability to remap the buttons (go Settings>Display, gestures & buttons), the ROM seems a bit smoother all around, such as going between home screens and opening the app drawer. Not too many other big differences on the surface, but that doesn't mean they didn't tweak a bunch of things under the hood.

One other real minor thing I noticed, if you plug the phone into USB, when you select what you want to do (Charge only, Disk Drive, etc.) the "Done" button is gone. I guess it gives one less thing you have to push when making your selection.

What are the kernel and baseband numbers?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I'll make another one :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Daryl137:
Just ran update not that this means anything but stock Quadrant scores are back into the 5000's (first run 5180) yay!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ethantarheels123:
wow. already so many people jumping the gun and installing it. every carrier now has 4.0.4 update correct? maybe we can expect 4.0.4 source soon.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Daryl137:
Baseband

0.19as.32.09.11_2_10.105.32.25L

Kernel

3.0.8-01558-g7f75e5b

Root@ABM009 #1

SMP PREEMPT
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Daryl137:
I've been sitting on this phone for a few months without rooting because I get to obsessed with it. Hopefully this update doesn't lock me out for good :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
You should always assume an OTA will lock you out for good. In fact, I hope it does permanently block everyone from rooting ever again just so I can laugh at all the people who blindly accept an OTA because they think it will turn their phone into a sex doll or something. I can understand that type of behavior on Android Central, but this is xda and it's geared directly at people who root/mod their phones. If a stupid MR OTA is more important than being able to root, then xda is not the forum for you. FYI this comment is not a personal attack, it is a general statement for everyone who jumps to accept an OTA without thinking.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] erwaso:
I remember the HTC aria 2.2 froyo update locked rooting out for a while, but the persistent devs the fixed that fairly quick stop I wouldn't worry too much :thumbup:

As for JB, it took 9mo for the HTC Rezound to get ICS, sooooo...

Sent from my HTC One X