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[Asus Transformer TF700] alienedd:
I bet a lot of these issues and confusion from ASUS and their support is really because they have the older TF101 andTF201 tablets with now having to support the TF300 and TF700. Not to mention they are also doing the Nexus 7 as well.

Edit: typo
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
I would have to disagree here. Asus tech support is and always has been very poor. It seems that no matter what you ask, they simply tell you to do a factory reset! It's a shame when you have to rely on fellow users to give tech support because Asus simply can't....

Asus also has some serious quality control issues - there are way too many units being sold that have defects out-of-the-box. Unfortunately, until there are some true competitors that offer useful keyboard docks (they are starting to appear now), Asus still gets my business simply because of the nice keyboard dock... However, once someone else gets the keyboard dock right, I think Asus may be in trouble in the tablet field.
[Asus Transformer TF700] HoushaSen:
Wow... First of thanks to the OP.

Isn't this (what ASUS doing) technically a fraud of some sort?
[Asus Transformer TF700] spartan062984:
TF300T

Just out of curiousity, would the TF300 KB be compatible, or is it limited to ONLY the TF201?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Squiner:
I'm filing a complaint with the BBB. I'll update when i get a response....
[Asus Transformer TF700] manman1:
They aren't coming here to answer, lets take the questions to them then

facebook com / asus.n.america

facebook com / ASUS

Maybe they'll have something to say after getting tired of deleting comments all day....
[Asus Transformer TF700] the_punkreas2003:
From what I've been reading it seams there are 2 tf700 docks on the market. The first one is the TF201 dock that is a tone or two off color with the pad but gives you 6 extra hours of battery life. It's just the tf201 with a firmware update.

The tf700 dock matches the pad perfectly but it only gives you 4 extra hours.

I have no clue how you make sure you get what you order... bhphotovideo has the tf700 dock for 134.99 but is it realy the tf700 ot the repackaged tf201???
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Someone here on XDA has both docks and took them apart. He said (and posted picutres) that the batteries in the two docks are exactly the same. Actually, he said that the docks were 100% the same.

Personally, I think that there are very small differences - I've heard that folks with the dock labeled strictly for the TF201 doesn't always latch properly when inserting the tablet into the dock. I have not heard *any* instances of that issue with the dock labeled for both TF201/TF700.

So again, I truly do believe that they are some very minor differences that are hard to see, even when comparing them side-by-side. Ive also heard that the TF201 dock causes the tablet to extend slightly further than the dock when it is in the closed position. Again, I don't have that issue with the TF700 dock...
[Asus Transformer TF700] gottahavit:
Was at Best Buy Yesterday and saw they had replaced all the tf201 docks with the new tf700/201 docks for 150. Seems like asus has no intention of stopping trying to pretend there is a new dock. Instead they now just don't sell seperate prime dock cheaper.

If I had actually paid for a tf700 dock instead of nowingly buying a discounted tf201 dock II would be on the phone yelling at ASUS and who evever sold it too me daily.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Is it me or am I seeing a difference in the very first picture in the OP? If you look at the part of the dock where the tablet slides in, it looks to me like the original TF201 dock has a "straight" back (where the tablet slides in) and the TF700 dock has a "curved" back - although it could just be the lighting too...

I truly do believe that they are some very minor differences, but there are differences (obviously, the battery is slightly different as well as the weight is different). I have a feeling that they modified it slightly to allow the TF700 to fit better and to cause the lock to engage better.

I'm not excusing Asus (it's still shady), but it looks like there *are* slightly different....
[Asus Transformer TF700] manman1:
They are the same product dude, I think your eyes are playing tricks on you for the dock part. I've seen both, they look the same. The battery weight difference is negligible; if you look at the specs you'll see they are both 2940mAh, and 22Wh. ASUSs claim was that the TF700 dock battery would be 19Wh on all the spec sheets I've seen. This is flat out the same product in the same box with a few stickers slapped on it and a higher price. Granted, the MSRP for both docks was the same and the old dock has just come down in price, but selling this as a new product through retail definitely makes them more money than the old docks does; they know exactly what they are doing here.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jjdevega:
Not compatible. There is a difference in size/thickness/design.

Brought to you by my Asus Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T
[Asus Transformer TF700] the_punkreas2003:
What I was saying is that when you order a TF700 dock you can receive a rebranded tf201 (the box sais it's a tf201 and a tf700) or a standalone tf700. So I guess the pictures in the first post are from a rebranded tf201. I think Asus changed something afterwards. BUT AGAIN, that's just a guess from reading hundred of different posts.
[Asus Transformer TF700] JamesRC:
Maybe the "new" (not re-labelled) TF700 dock will filter in once ASUS have gotten rid of the older docks....

I was hoping the re-design was true, the weight balance on the TF201/300 isn't great so I was happy to hear it was fixed for the TF700.
[Asus Transformer TF700] DonDallas71:
What are the visual differences?

I bought the NewEgg combo and got a keyboard boxed as a TF700 with a keyboard labled a TF201.

So, without knowing what the box said and the wrist pad sticker, and just looking at the two keyboards, I am trying to figure out how to tell them apart.

So looking at Docks_Front.jpg (1 of 10) I am guessing the TF201 is on the left since it says 18hrs on the sticker and the TF700 is on the right. Which is what I have. Without that sticker I am not seeing much to decern the two.

Then looking at Docks_Back.jpg (2 of 10) I am guessing the TF201 is once again on the left with the TF700 on the right. Looking at the sticker in the upper left corner, the TF201 sticker is about half the width of the TF700 sticker. My sticker matches the one on the right. Do they both say TF201 Mobile Docking in the tiny print?

Also, the brushed texture on the left seems more prononounced than the one on the right. I know on my dock, the brushed metal back is not as pronounced as the brushed metal on the back of the TF700T tablet. That could just be lighting though.

The other thing I am wondering is what the tablet itself says about the two. So in the About Tablet section of the OS, my TF700 boxed keyboard shows up as TF201-DOCK-0207. What does the original TF201 dock show up as?
[Asus Transformer TF700] craftyhack:
Exactly the same string: "TF201-DOCK-0207"
[Asus Transformer TF700] pangdd:
me too. I bought from Amazon. Amazon rep tell me that Asus said they put wrong sticker this afternoon..

I found the tablet recognize the dock is TF201- Dock - 0207. So Asus is liar.
[Asus Transformer TF700] craftyhack:
Amazon said that Asus told them they put the wrong STICKER on the box? Well if that were true, the only thing that identifies these supposed TF700 docks IS the sticker... meaning ASUS is saying that they really are saying they are selling 201 docks as 700 docks "on accident" because of that sticker. That doesn't make any sense at all, they wouldn't need stickers to begin with if they really made a different dock, given I assume they would make a different dang box, they did for the TF700 tablet itself, I haven't heard of anyone getting an Infinity in a Prime box with a sticker that says "Infinity" on it :).
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynalazca:
You're all wrong but it probably doesn't matter.

I've never seen a 700 dock, but I'm pretty sure you are all wrong. Internally they are probably identical (wait, the 700 dock has a smaller battery, so they're not.) Also, much like many of you, I have a 700 tablet with the 201 dock. If you lock the tablet in and then look at the edge where they meet, you'll notice that the profiles don't match exactly. It works, but it's not perfect. I'm guessing it's safe to assume the 700 dock's profile fits the tablet exactly. I'd post a pic, but I'm too lazy and don't care enough. Functionally, they're almost identical, but to say they are actually identical is not true.
[Asus Transformer TF700] 0x000:
The TF700 docks are available in Austria now since a few days ( http://geizhals.at/803741 ) so I ordered one. Guess I'll see whether there's any tf201 sticker on them :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] craftyhack:
Cool, definitely post back what you think! If there really is a TF-700 dock, I would be curious about improvements! That is certainly one thing clear about ASUS that I also like... they learn from their mistakes and when they come out with new versions of something, they don't half ass it... i.e. TF101-201 (the unfortunate antenna thing aside, it was a heck of an evolution) and again with the TF700, same thing with their first UB vs. the Prime, everything that reviewers complained about they fixed more or less, in ONE generation most of the time. I don't really have complaints about the KB though...
[Asus Transformer TF700] 0x000:
i've received my dock today, first impression: cool :)

other thoughts:

fits perfectly, tablet can easily be inserted - but then again i never had or saw the TF201 prime dock

don't see any color differences, but that might as well be me :)

i'd rather have an asus microsd adapter for the SD placeholder than just a plain placeholder, now i have to use an ugly black samsung one

regarding TF201 vs. TF700:

i've ordered and waited for the dock with product number 90-OK00DK56000Y (ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Infinity KeyboardDock gold), which can be bought in austria since a few days (http://geizhals.at/803741)

in austria you can (or could because it's not available anymore) also buy this dock: 90-OK0ADK23000Y (ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Prime KeyboardDock gold). see: http://geizhals.at/705562 - i guess this is the original TF201 dock.

attached are some pictures of the dock and packaging, it says:

Eee Pad TF700 / TF201 Mobile Docking on a sticker at the back of the dock itself including battery information of 18W - or is this some other info??

a sticker at the side of the packaging reads "suitable for TF700 series and TF201" - i didn't try to remove this sticker yet :)

the sticker at the top of the back side of the packaging shows the product number and name (i guess it's a sticker of the shop because it's outside of the plastic wrapping). the other sticker reads "TF201 Mobile Docking", product number 90-OK00DK56000Y and serial number C8OKAS... and then TF700T Mobile Dock/GE/Gold

as i first only read "TF201 Mobile Docking" i asked the guy at the shop if this is really the TF700 dock :) he double checked and confirmed, only then i saw the last smaller line with "TF700T" readings.

so, what do you guys think? :) i guess this is some newer version of the dock (the real TF700 dock?) because i have the smaller 18W battery?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pretoriano80:
I'm saying that Asus is trying to fool the customers with this tf700t dock and just trying to make more money by selling the tf201 dock at highier prices.Now the sticker is saying the dock it's compatible with TF700&TF201 but in the begining they advertised that the tf201 dock is not compatible with tf700,so go figure...Asus is full of bs that's for sure.
[Asus Transformer TF700] dahas:
Hi

Nice pics for side to side comparation. First TF201 dock wasnt sold so good and they need to reinvent it and make is higher as price to be a true price for new dock.

The price for a TF201 tablet is lower than a TF700.

Power consumption for TF201 is lower than TF700 for that what is sold as TF201 dock has 22W and for TF700 dock is labeled as 18W. This is the explain why is difference.

Using TF201/TF700 dock will give you same power if is used on same condition.

Using same tehnology and same components shuld make the TF700 cheaper than TF201 but as marketing who will buy a cheap piece when his predecesor has higher price and that start a question in your mind. Is that cheap for what? it is something cheap inside? but when come with a higher price they all say "Huh i wish to get the original one but i can't spend another 50-60$".

All about the mind and mass manipulation :) take a free howers of mind control lesson and will she what is about shoppers perception and do the tricks they want it.

"Just today 15% cheap the TF700 Docking :P" YOU will know now from how low they can go with that at least at actual lvl of TF201.

Im the one who pay 136$ for the TF700 relabeled TF201 even i know it was a trick to make me to buy :P.

Enjoy the product and hope to keep as long we want it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Wow - I have no idea what the hell you are trying to say there!! :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] craftyhack:
When you go to System -> About Tablet, scroll to the bottom where it lists the Dock firmware, does yours show a string with TF201 in it, or TF700 in it?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Fortigurn:
This makes sense in light of information I received from ASUS staff. I do outsourced work for ASUS here in Taiwan, and know a number of staff who are in the design department. When this issue was first raised, I emailed a couple of people I know there. The first reply I received from someone who knows members of the design team, is that the ASUS website is correct; the Infinity's keyboard is compatible with the Prime, but the Prime's keyboard is not compatible with the Infinity. The second reply I received, from a member of the design team, also said that the ASUS website is correct.

What is clearly happening is that ASUS is recycling its left over TF201 dock hardware to make TF700 docks. This does not mean that the TF201 dock and the TF700 dock are identical. The new TF700 dock was made with marginally different specifications including some very slight physical differences. The design staff at ASUS have been deliberately cautious about compatibility concerns, and told product management staff that the Infinity's keyboard is compatible with the Prime, but the Prime's keyboard is not compatible with the Infinity. These differences are so minor that most people won't notice them, but people such as you do, and some people will experience issues with the locking mechanism if they use the Prime's dock with the Infinity. Despite this, many people will be able to use the Prime's dock with the Infinity without experiencing any noticeable problems.
[Asus Transformer TF700] craftyhack:
Did they mention why they didn't update the firmware to say something other than TF201 only, a much easier change than any physical changes which require changes in fab equipment, molds, etc. On yeah, I had problems with my TF700 dock latching at first too, I just had to do it a few times to break it in... same thing I had to do with my TF-201 dock, which now locks fine.
[Asus Transformer TF700] 0x000:
neither, mine shows: DOCK-EC20N-0207 and PAD-EC20T-0216
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
That's because they changed it in the last update (.30). I can't remember what the string was previous to that update though, but I think it contained the string TF201.
[Asus Transformer TF700] craftyhack:
Interesting, I just did a firmware update not long ago (hoping to see jelly Bean as usual, and NOT seeing Jelly bean as usual). So far this is the only difference that I see,my dock firmware version strings match yours. So instead of doing anything else, they just updated the firmware to genericize how the dock as identified by the tablet, clever... to bad they didn't think of that before they released 201's as 700 docks that were incompatible with 201;s. This just gest better and better...
[Asus Transformer TF700] R0CKSTAR3N3RGY:
I purchased the TF-700 dock simply because the grey color matched better. It was only $6 more at the Best Buy by me.

I accidentally bought a TF-300 Dock that was on the shelf for the TF-201 Docks the first time. :silly:
[Asus Transformer TF700] jonstrong:
I just picked up my Infinity and dock a few days ago at Best Buy, and apparently wound up with the relabeled 201 -- paid $129... both parts gray, and if they aren't exact, they're close enough so that they appear to be mated perfectly. Also - no issues whatsoever with the latch: when I insert the tablet, the latch clicks / locks instantly with no hesitation, no need to wiggle it or press hard. Looking at the front lip of the tablet and dock, the tablet does appear to extend perhaps somewhere between 1/32" and 1/16" of an inch past the dock -- I don't know if that's a difference in spec, but it actually appeared intentional to me, as it makes it easier to grab the lip of the tablet with a finger when I open the docked tablet.

Seems fine to me...all working perfectly. I guess I could go back to Best Buy and get them to swap it out for an official 700 dock...but I'm not sure I see any reason to do this...?
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Actually, the "relabled" TF201 dock *is* the "official" TF700 dock. The folks that have problems are using the original TF201 dock (that isn't relabeled at all). Personally, I think Asus just re-used the TF201 boxes, which is why they have a sticker over the TF201 model number. I actually think that the docking portion of the dock is slightly different. But, that's just a guess - I have no proof of that...
[Asus Transformer TF700] jonstrong:
Well then...the dock is now a moot point for me. Works fine, looks great. For me, the real questions come back to 1) dealing with the fact that I didn't do the NVFlash routine before allowing my new tablet to update to .30 and JB, meaning that at least for the moment, I can't fall back on NVFlash as a flashing safety net, and 2) deciding on a case. I'll watch this thread, but don't expect any major news at this point - good info here, but nothing for me to do or change at this point re: the dock. Next up - back to the respective threads on NVFlash, .30, and cases...
[Asus Transformer TF700] thelonesoldier:
I bought the "700" dock from Newegg last week; I had read dozens of threads including this one and gotten the impression there were some real TF700 docks and some relabelled TF201 docks. I got the relabelled TF201 dock (imo there is no such thing as a new TF-700 dock).

The "700" dock I got also had a defect; the bottom of the back end was warped and not sealed firmly - it would "pop" into place when pressed, but come loose after a few minutes of use. The latch didn't work well at first but it wore in.

I was pretty pissed about the whole thing and threw a fit about it to Newegg, who parroted the "mislabelled" garbage. After the conversation they changed the "TF700 dock" to "out of stock" and raised the price of the "open box" resells from $100 to $120 - lost my business for a long while...

Anyway, before returning the "700" dock, I bought a non-defective 201 dock for $100 from Office Depot, and had some time to directly compare them. My findings:

I had assumed the 700 box was a 201 box with new stickers, but they are in fact completely different boxes. Since I was returning it I didn't have the guts to peel the stickers off of the 700 box so I don't know what it said originally.

They both came with a 201 dock manual

They both had an "Eee Pad TF201" sticker on the dock itself, but the one on the "700" dock was larger

They had the separate large stickers on the front lower right

Both docks were externally identical in every way (minus the defect unique to the "700" dock). They are identical in color, both slightly more purple than the Transformer Infinity itself. I noticed this and several people I showed it to independently commented on that without me mentioning it beforehand. I don't have a scale that measures anything less than pounds, but I would say they were identical weights, and certainly identical weight distributions. I was able to balance both docks on the same point. The Transformer's fully-tilted-back "tipping" behavior while connected to each dock was identical - it won't tip back on its own, but can can tip when you press the screen.

Personally I am sure the "misprint" angle is a scam; if anything they misprinted their attempt to pretend this was a new product. I also don't think that any "real" 700 docks exist at all. I am quite happy with the 201 dock that was labelled a 201 dock, as it was significantly cheaper and otherwise identical. The functionality of the dock is superb, it's just the scam that's irritating. I'm probably not adding anything new to the discussion but I wish I would have found more posts like this when searching.
[Asus Transformer TF700] craftyhack:
Wow, so still same dock. Thanks for update! And agreed, I have NOTHING against the current dock (I don't have tipping issues, I guess because of where, how I use and place it), purely with the what look to be market tomfoolery to screw people out of a bit of extra $ for a "new" version" that really wasn't, and even WORSE originally saying that the 201 dock wasn't compatible so everyone pre-ordering would buy the new one (again, just supposition on my part), and REVERSING that stupid statement after the 2 seconds it took everyone to figure out it was BS. I have to say, WTH were they thinking? That we wouldn't figure this out? No offense to anyone here, but I am assuming that most of us are geeks if we preordered the 700, and they should have known it would take the preorder crowd about 2 seconds to figure out they "had been had".

Someone there got stupid me thinks(someone high up in the food chain, probably VP or higher, maybe one new to Asus since they obviously must be having to grow their tablet business unit given they are growing in tablet expanse and popularity so fast), and I also bet the rank and file knew better, probably tried to convince otherwise, and were told to do it anyway. I am speaking from experience from working at a large company BTW on how stupid things like this normally go down :). Who thinks I am close :)?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Lyvyoo:
One major tipping issue - the lack of "delete button"!!! Only "Backspace".
[Asus Transformer TF700] BTrack:
Original TF201 Dock Fits TF700 Perfectly

Actually, I don't think that is the case. I purchased a TF201 and dock in January, long before the TF700 was released. I returned the TF201 to Amazon last month, kept the dock, and bought a TF700. The original TF201 dock fits my TF700 perfectly.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Kisakuku:
The dock is now listed as TF500/TF700 dock on Amazon and has a new model number (AD0 I think...) on the box as well as on the sticker on the underside of the dock itself. The firmware version is different too (DOCK-EC21N-0105 vs the old DOCK-EC20N-0207). My serial started with C90.

I noticed a couple of physical differences: the flexible strip lining the bottom of the docking mechanism is now the appropriate purplish color for my "gray" dock. In the original gray dock it was closer to the champagne color of the other dock version. The rubber feet are now not just glued to the flat underside surface but sit in their own round recessed receptacles.