yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Desire S] :
Hi,

After about 1 year of worshiping Sense ;) I decided to jump ship and switch to 'vanilla' on my Desire S which was a really good decision. I love the feel and every single tweak you guys make to turn this ROM experience into something great. Thank you for that.

Right now I've been using:

[ROM] | 12 JULY 12 | IceColdSandwich Perfecto-Linaro Edition | ICS | CM9 Kernel

Quadrant score is 1899 (nothing more than 1300-1500 on my previous Sense ROMs), overall performance is fluid and I'm happy with it, but... I also happen to be somewhat more than a casual mobile gamer and that's when the drama begins.

This ROM crashed (auto-rebooted) only once for me (while using Instagram), but freezes happen a lot while gaming. I know it has a lot to do with kernel 3 source not being released etc.

My question is: will switching to:

[ROM][090712]Unofficial AOKP for Desire S [BETA][4.0.4][Milestone 6][Ext. CM9 Kernel

improve gaming experience in any way, or is it just not worth the hassle with changing the ROM?

Maybe some of you used both of these ROMs. If not, many of you are much more experienced in the topic than I am anyway, so I'd be really grateful if you could provide me with some input.

Once again thanks to all the devs for your hard, passionate work, and to all the rest that test it.
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
This is because Icecold and other ICS and JB ROM's are based on an old kernel with loads of workarounds.

It is known that it causes kernel oops(hang) under heavy graphics(3d) and webpage load.

Low graphics (2d) games like doodle jump work well.

Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
[HTC Desire S] :
So, as I understand it, switching between these two ROMs (or, for example, CM9 alpha for DS) won't make any significant improvement, am I right? And what after HTC finally releases kernel 3.x sources (after OTA 4.0 update)? Is there a chance for really stable ICS ROMs in terms of gaming, camera working etc. on the Desire S?
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Yes, switching to CM9 will not make a difference.

After kernel sources are released, it definitely will improve.

We already have JellyBean ROM's, guess if you like stock Google experience you should try JB ROM's in the future.

Who wants ICS when JellyBean is here :)

BTW camera works on all ICS ROM's

Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
[HTC Desire S] Auke11:
You can try reaper. It should be very stable. I never used it.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Reaper is the most stable Rom I've had in my phone, never had an issue with it, I'm quite a heavy gamer myself and have had a few fcs with ics Roms. Reaper is fast and reliable and I still go back to it during the week for work

Swyped from my desire s running blindIce
[HTC Desire S] :
Thanks for the feedback, guys. I've gone through the Reaper ROM thread and it really looks promising. The thing is I don't know if I'll ever be able to come back to GB roms after my lick on the frosting of a particular 'ice cream sandwich' :o

For now I'm gonna stick to my actual choice and if it eventually drives me crazy while gaming/trying to play games, I guess I'll try Reaper.

Thanks once again!
[HTC Desire S] anazhd:
never tried heavy games on my ice ds. well, I will soon, and follow up my report here.
[HTC Desire S] :
I've used ICE_DS, it's as stable as a rock while gaming. Too bad I'm after stock ICS experience.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I had no end of gaming issues with stock sense, inactive controls, freezing etc. Don't think I'll go back to sense regardless how much I liked it. Love vanilla.

Swyped from my desire s running Vanilla ICE v2.0
[HTC Desire S] anazhd:
tried the CS Portable on ICE DS, working flawlessly. Also tried on aokp/cm9 , lot of freeze and fc. ah man. aokp/cm/aosp/vanilla/etc are cool,but hardware incompatible.. gonna wait for kernel 3 source thou.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Can't wait for kernel sources, will at least get some excellently stable Roms, hope lowveld makes a JB reaper

Swyped from my desire s running Vanilla ICE v2.0
[HTC Desire S] anazhd:
JB Reaper :eek: . Cant wait.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I know, can you imagine?

Swyped from my desire s running Vanilla ICE v2.0
[HTC Desire S] anazhd:
Masterpiece of smoothest android on earth? LOL
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PierreTech:
Where and how can i get the s note app. Can i just download an apk file or flash a .zip file??
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teraxul:
Good question

Wysyłane z mojego GT-N7000 za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lightdelegate:
U have it on most of the ics roms.

U can get it with a rom...

It works only on note.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PierreTech:
I can't get it. Im using kingdroid v7 and i think that rom has an snote but in my note it doesnt have it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CJSlim79:
Is V7 not a GB based ROM?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PierreTech:
Depends there is a kd v7 gb rom and eh kd v7 ics rom.:)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CJSlim79:
Try searching the ROM Thread for users who have had the issue, That's the best place to get the advice IMO..

I've had issues before with custom ROMs and Sammy apps..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonpaslim:
Here is the s note apk. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1697210
[HTC One X] Frenix27:
I wanted to try a rom based on Jellybean and I want to know which rom between these 2 is the better.

1)http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1763240

2)http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784185

Thanks!
[HTC One X] rob9:
I've tried all the jellybean roms available for the one x, and in my opinion its neither of the two you posted.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1786696

This one is stable, fast and has pretty decent battery life.
[HTC One X] Frenix27:
But this has so many bugs!
[HTC One X] mafia187:
I agree best one.
[HTC One X] whynot66:
All the cm jelly bean ROMs will have issues but I'm using cm10 preview 10 and its the best one imho
[HTC One X] ViktorN:
+1 for tbalden's CM10 preview 10. It feels like a ROM that's not in development, like it's complete. It's very stable, very fast and has great battery life. You can try it and if you don't like it (but I'm sure you will), flash a different ROM.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Braaank:
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gokpog:
Other than face unlock, for which I have absolutely no use for, whats missing?

+ Beats HC and the former ICS/JB custom ROMS by a mile.

+ Runs great, especially the browser.

+ Looks good, but I like stock JB better, nothing to bad though.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] nttuananh:
too big font, too bright color, ugly locking screen, lost about 200MB RAM.

All other things are great.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Localhorst86:
Its touchwiz again. I think it looks horrible and i hope cm10 will get the camera drivers soon.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] paspro:
As far as performance is concerned it is great, a big step forward compared to previous ROMs or other custom firmware. Unfortunately, it is bloated with Touchwiz apps which are not necessary since there are Google equivalent apps that do the job perfectly well.

However, the biggest issue for me is the fact that it has no consistent user interface, a problem common to all non-stock Android versions. The Samsung apps have their own Touchwiz user interface while all other apps use the standard ICS user interface elements and colours. Some system elements like the Settings panel and various pop up windows utilise the Touchwiz graphical elements while others the standard ICS elements. Even the arrows that allow the user to select a piece of text look completely different depending on whether one is running a Samsung app or a standard Android one!

In my opinion, it is important for an OS which depends heavily on the user interface, like tablet and phone OSes, to have a common and standard look and feel not only for cosmetic purposes but also to ensure that the users are not confused and all apps look consistent with a specific design philosophy so that users can easily locate menus and other elements. This is the biggest failure of Touchwiz and as a result the overall look and feel of this firmware is strange with bright and colourful user interface elements when Touchwiz is used and dark black and blue elements when running standard Android apps.

Notice here that I am not judging the quality of Touchwiz vs standard ICS and some people prefer the one instead of the other. I am saying that whatever the choice of user inteface it has to be consistent throughout the system and third-party apps. Personally, I prefer the standard ICS user inteface but this is not the point of my argument.

I hope that third-party Android developers will use the updated libraries of this firmware as well as the camera drivers to produce a fully functioning standard ICS or Jelly Bean ROM through projects like CM9/CM10 for the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xdapao3:
I am one of those who actually MUCH prefer Touchwiz and the other Samsung apps, added settings and personalizations (for example the overlay mini-apps and the now configurable screenshot button are extremely handy and I hate the "2-steps" notification bar in non-TW ROMs) so for me this ROM is GREAT.

I have never been interested in the least in face-unlock, I have always used the pattern lockscreen.

What I would have liked to see in this ROM are the SIM application toolkit, the numbers top row in the keyboard (like in all the recent Samsung keyboards) and the battery percentage.

P.S. that said, if the G.Tab 10.1 isn't going to get an official JB update from Samsung I am sure that at some point, once it matures, I will go back to CM10... :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] peraburek:
I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)

however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why

does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] serosis:
I'm as happy as a pig in ****, now I might use it for more than a glorified Netflix machine.

That was the thing with the custom ICS/JB roms is that they were so unstable and brought literally nothing to the table besides being someone else's opinion on what they thought I wanted.

I want stability and I want good, official looking apps. Not File Manager HD with its advertising aids and not some bright ass boot animation that blinds me every time I have to reboot because it froze overnight.

But I digress.

I think this release by Samsung is quite amazing, and it will hold me off long enough till I decide to buy a newer model Galaxy Tab.

At the rate Samsung is going they are going to be my new favorite company. Not just because of this update, for numerous other dealings as well.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] RavenY2K3:
I had that same problem yesterday, no matter which keyboard I tried, I'll probably just use another terminal app.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] daniel_fm:
The new version is definitely a step ahead. It seems Swype is usable now, although it still lags a bit but at least it can keep up with typing for me not like earlier versions.

I also like it and I guess touchwiz is inevitable. Desktop customization has been upgraded too which is very useful.

If something else could be asked is a tad more smoothness when switching desktops and probably one last push update to jelly bean for increased smoothness.:cowboy:

We'll see in the coming days with extended use. For.me :good:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] le_novo:
Am I the only one havin' problems playin' some HD videos in the youtube app? (Factory Reset done after odin flash) My old SGS running ICS is capable of doin' that.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] szetolf:
the ugliness of the Samsung 4.0.4 really disturbs me...

Was Samsung smoking pot in the many months spent on making it on to 10.1?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] vladin79:
It doesn't work for me too. I can enter numbers and other symbols, but I cannot enter any letters.

Edit: It turned out, that using Swype instead of Samsung keyboard, works great in the Terminal Emulator.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Luxor:
new ics samsung

iI like it, very stable and with best email stock client that I never see.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] cranch:
I really am digging it. My only complaint so far is how close the notification icons are to each other.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] WildeHilde!:
same problem here ...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] man666:
The only thing that i complain in this new build, is there are some games that aren't working. For example Mass Effect (GooglePlay obviously) it works on CM9, however doesn't on the Samsung rom (both 4.04).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xdapao3:
no problems whatsoever here and what "problems" are you two talking about exactly?

P.S. and I watch a lot of Youtube videos on the tab
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] hc_1540:
Yes!!! This was probably the first thing I checked once the install had finished. I love Swype but it was pretty much unusable in stock HC on the tab. No more automatic deleting of the last two characters when typing a search into the browser!!!

From my perspective it's a it early to give an opinion but it's looking good so far although my quadrant score has taken a nosedive (yes, I know that doesn't mean anytihgn in reality)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] le_novo:
Lagging playback on some HD videos.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] le_novo:
I've no problem watching HD clips on imdb(app), but on youtube its studdering like hell, out of sync sometimes also. Clearing cashe and data has broad me nothing. Its the only thing bothering me on this stock FW. The home button and the task switch button not reacting every time as well.

Everything else seems to work perfect.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] komorka:
The only thing I don't like about it is no HW video decoding. I noticed that some of the videos aren't even playable through DicePlayer any longer, while they were playing just fine on HC.

Also after rooting the tab, it started to freeze a lot. So I think it's better to refrain from rooting it until a proper kernel or root or whatever will come out...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Braaank:
Another thing i dont like is the new way for create folders it looks horrible and more complicated.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] angie.w:
keyboard not working for me when using a terminal emulator tried a few different versions aswell

i'll try the swype maybe be better than nothing
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] RavenY2K3:
Has anyone else found the exchange email duplicating calendar entries?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GazaIan:
Disappointed. With all that time they had, you'd think it wouldn't be a lagfest. I'm gonna sit on it for a few days an keep trying it out but as of right now it's awful. Jellybean and it's hardcore smoothness got me. Yeah, it's newer than ICS, but I've had ICS on my two phones since the ROMs ever came out, and it's been the smoothest thing ever. No idea why ICS can't be smooth on tablets.

That entire bar at the top when dragging stuff on the launcher is horrible and unnecessary if you ask me. Keep is simple like stock ICS. Gonna go install Nova Launcher or something.

EDIT: Loving the lockscreen. Just wish the lock wasn't a bunch of preset images (well, nothing is wrong with that, but at least stick in some more images so it looks better.. little things like this bug me).

]We now have two ways to take a screenshot... Two is redundant, but the one in the combined bar brings you to a cool editing page, and I can't tell you how many times I've needed to draw on a screenshot.

Also seems that samsung improved the touch input, it's not laggy like it used to be, where I had to solve it with touchscreen tune... It could be a bad placebo, but I mean, I seem to be able to draw without problems, something i couldn't do in Honeycomb, other ICS ROMs, or JB unless I used TouchScreenTune.

*continues dissecting ROM*

It appears Samsung did turn up the sensitivity, it you drag an app and hold it in place (you have to drag it outside the set minimum pixels), the app starts to dance around, not as a cool effect but because of the modifications Samsung made to the display. What's interesting though, is that, unlike other versions when that happened using TouchScreenTune, I can still draw stuff just fine.

WTF IS A HONEYCOMB CLOCK DOING HERE

Apex Launcher is smoother than that other painful ordeal, plus Samsung widgets still work. I used that weather widget.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] esiemi:
.HW accelerated Videos don't work

.YouTube videos laggy

.Battery drain even on standby with wifi off

not a very good rom tbh
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ShannonAUT:
Thats a deal breaker for me. I'll go back to Tasks 14
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] badboy47:
I am coming from 3.2fw. At first I did liked it. New interface with cool features.But after using it for about 10mins, I thought it was slow. Switched to Jellybean and overclocked to 1.4 via SetCPU. It's running buttery smooth.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] coldbeermt:
I see HD videos (even at youtube) right, no lags at all. Battery works -in my case- as always. :confused:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gokpog:
Video playback: How did you verify that video HW acceleration doesn't work?

Youtube: Sometimes HD Youtube content seems to miss a few frames at the beginning but they run fine afterwards.

Battery drain: Lost 2% battery in 11 h while I was at work yesterday, lost 1% in 7 hours standby over night. That's both with Wifi ON. Find the app that's draining your battery.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] esiemi:
built in video player plays videos with no video but there is sound, tried MX player and BS player both cant play the videos using HW decoding but play fine using SW decoding. tried various formats MKV, Divx etc and all same. btw MX and BS play fine on cm9/cm10 with HW decoding.

HD videos on youtube: as you have said miss a few frames then get smooth and then again miss a few frames and then get smooth again and goes on.

about the battery: i didnt install anything apart from chrome and wifi policy is to switch off when screen is off.

unless task and preshoot do their magic with this rom i dont think is usable for me tbh.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] le_novo:
The same video playing without problems under HC 3.2 but lagging under ICS?(but playing correctly on my SGS ICS 4.0.4?) Don't think missing frames is the correct answer to that.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gokpog:
Ok, so MX and BS player can't do hw decoding. That doesn't really conclude that the ROM/kernel can't do hw decoding.

Are there any cm9/10 builds with the 3.1.1 kernel and the new libs already? If not, you can't compare them with stock ICS.

Can't help you with your battery drain. Restored my titanium backup with ~60 apps, synced my Gmail account, disabled GPS and I'm back to 2-3% battery per day with Wifi always on.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GazaIan:
Everyone is complaining about video acceleration issues, am I the only one not having them? They play perfectly fine for me, no lag at all. The only lag I get is scrolling lag and somewhat heavy game lag. Dead Trigger lags at first but then smooths out. MC3 is still laggy as **** as always. But no video lag. Only problem with YouTube HD I'm having is that all HD videos buffer too damn slow. I keep having to sit there and wait for it to finish buffering.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tommygHTCdream:
two things camera and chrome.

visulally much better and on the google I/O....I can enter recovery directly... now for a root and CWM and i'll be all set with the best stock tab out there
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bertiespeed:
Tasks ics and apex launcher ! Has the stock ics looks and almost as smooth as jb. So far im quite happy :good:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] MapleSyrup:
IMO, aesthetically, it's just horrible, Samsung did an excellent job uglifying ICS.

About the performance, I haven't test it much yet, but as is, too bloated for my taste.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] lgsshedden:
well maybe I am the excpetion but having seen ICS on the GIII I was equally as pleased to install it on my Tab 10.1 -- great out of the box firmware, rooted and added CWM but don't see any need for a custom ROM with this firmware, so much better than the HC variants that preceded it -- not having the performance issues others are having, everything I use running great.

Samsung bloat is easily removed using TB -- takes less than 5 minutes. If you know enough to flash new firmware you certainly know enough to remove surplus apps! Some new stuff worth playing with first and then ditch if not wanted.

Basic interface and browser much improved.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] fnair:
This update is a HUGE improvement over hc 3.2. I was increasingly frustrated with the lag and instability on hc. Tablet is now MUCH smoother and usable. Touchwiz now feels more finished.

A nice new feature is that you can now change the screen capture button to have another function (e. g. search) (settings|display|quick launch)

We can now (finally) add or remove home screens, easily re-order them and set which is the default.

The default music player is also much smoother and has more features and a functional resizeable widget.

It's nice to have the ics features. I just wish Samsung didn't **** with the ics way of making folders by just dragging an icon on another.

As others have said some videos don't play with the h/w decoder. Don't know if it's a resolution or codec problem. The divx and xvid videos I have tried work no problem, as does video shot with my sgs2 (hd). Videos encoded with x264 in mkv or mp4 containers that I have tried don't. Haven't had problems with YouTube.

All in all, gave the tablet a second life. It feels like a different, much more polished product.

With the software finally getting ironed out, things are looking good for the Note 10.1 with its beefier Exynos processor, and JB around the corner.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Scared27:
I really like that Samsung updated it to the latest version of touchwiz. If only they left the ICS folder way.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] styckx:
Finally got this installed and WOW it's fast compared to even the CM9 nighties.

I did facepalm though when I went to check out the widgets Samsung supplied and saw they kept the Honeycomb clock..
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] EcPercy:
It's better than the CM9/10 versions that are floating around. For one everything works.

Issues I have with CM9/10:

Autobrightness - when in bright light the screen does not get bright enough to view properly so you have to set the brightness manually

Stability - Tab would "black screen"?? when I would unplug it from the charger

Screen Flickering - This would happen at various times normally when typing on the keyboard

Serial number - For some reason the serial number would not show correctly on my device (small issue)

Cameras - Just never worked (I know that is changing now)

Random app FC - Random apps would FC (chrome browser is a big one) and this is after full wipe and fresh install

I am not saying CM is bad and once the ICS source comes out I am sure CM9/10 will move to 3.1 kernel and resolve a bunch of the issues (including the ones mentioned). Until then I will stick with the Samsung verson of ICS. Although this thing has come cons of its own.

Issues with Samsung ICS

Device encryption - This happens on my S3 and GT 10.1 - In order to encrypt the device you need to set a password for the device. The major drawback here is that you need to unlock your phone with a long password. CM9/10 allows you to set an "encryption" password for when you start the device and you can still unlock the phone with your normal method (such as a PIN). Samsung does not allow this and it is pretty annoying to type in a 6+ character password with upper/lowercase/number.

Battery percentage - Not present on GT 10.1 , but present on S3 (ICS)

Quick login - CM has a feature that logs in once the password is successful saving one keystroke every time you enter your PIN