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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] xHoLyx:
Why can't they just release the damn source code. Sigh... :(

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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
I'm soooo glad i was wrong

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Did someone ask about the source code yet?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] elvensbane:
So, it was scheduled for august right? Is Verizon still bloating it to oblivion? Or did they mean august 2013? :(. Glad I'm rooted and I don't have to sit back and take it from verizon..
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
You mean Ben Franklin didn't say that about the internet? ;)

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You mean "bend over," right?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
He's right, they won't give you the OTA unless there in control :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sambistt:
two weeks is just to wait
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nyccharlie:
Am tempted to root, but it would just be my luck that after I do, the OTA comes out.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Do you guys really want the OTA pushed to your phone? From my understanding, it could make it unrootable in the future.

The purpose for the OTA is to eventually get the kernel source (the precious), right? Not some bloated out excuse for a rom.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Camaro305:
Unrooting takes literally minutes, as simple as flashing the 2.34 RUU.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nyccharlie:
lol i know, i've unrooted my phone and am now back at stock. i feel bad for the bionic users that will have root check in place when their ICS update rolls out.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
BUT, it may not be possible if you allow vzw to push the OTA to your phone, right?

This was my understanding. Can someone confirm/deny this?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Camaro305:
If you flash a signed stock RUU such as the one from Condemned Soul "Return to Stock" thread, you will remain at s-off, but the phone can receive OTA updates. That is my understanding.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Doesn't the OTA threaten s-off? Potentially making it impossible to return to s-off? This was my understanding.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Camaro305:
Again, my take on it is this. (I am not a professional, or a dev lol). If you are already s-off, you will forever remain s-off. If you are s-on, and accept the ics ota (if we get one), it may make it more difficult to s-off in the future. I assume an awesome dev would still figure out a way to do it though...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
This is correct. S-OFF can't be taken away by an OTA. I'm sure there is a way to root the OTA, and if we can root it, we can use misc_version to downgrade it and use revolutionary. That said, if you have it now, root it now because it might get harder.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nyccharlie:
so i posted on htc's wall and this was their response.

"HTC USA We're aware we missed the deadline and know you're looking forward to the update. We're working actively with Verizon and other providers on ICS software. As soon as we have an update, we'll notify customers."

love big corps lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Oh my god I can't wait for tomorrow's OTA release!!!!!!!!!!!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
Thanks to Goodreads:

“Tomorrow you promise yourself will be different, yet tomorrow is too often a repetition of today.”

― James T. McCay
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] xHoLyx:
Here's the translated version, "We're aware we missed the deadline, but we don't really care and there was never a contract saying your phone will get ICS. Only few of us are working on limited time with Verizon and other providers on ICS software. As soon as we have an update, we'll notify customers, but then again don't get your hopes up, it might take a lot of tomorrows."

Screw Verizon and HTC. Verizon takes about 50 years to put 100 bloats. HTC says they aren't required to release kernel source for 90-120 days, so... MAYBE by next summer we get a source ;)

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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
By that time most of us will have gone to new phones (carriers????)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Missed a deadline eh? Your fired! Welcome to the real world, Mr. Corporation.

If Corporations are People, and they are, we bloody well should treat them like how we are treated.

And NO. This is not a political debate. So, no politics down there you people...

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By that time, we will all be in a better place... At least lets promise we will choose a phone called a Nexus next time.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jeremytn86:
Actually with the new partitions the ota will wither not work because of our hboot .97 (currently the only one which is security off) and can't flash over it or, it will flash a new hboot over ours and we will lose s off. Almost positive, but, like HTC, don't hold me completely to my statements.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
That's what I thought, but I'm no dev either...just an avid reader ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
Theres all this talk about getting a nexus becuase everything is faster, but unless its made by HTC there's still no sense ROMs. All the GN has is diffrent kangs of aokp.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
Good point. The /lib partition would need to be removed from the kernel to work with the S-OFF hboot. I think nits did it with the leaked ICS ROM, so it's possible.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jeremytn86:
Yeah he did and yeah it is, but not the way big red had it
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
And?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] funky_snowman:
i can't say i would miss the sluggishness of ever single sense rom ive ever used. imo the only reason to use them are to avoid the issues that stock Android has on htc phones.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
And exactly how is that bad? I do admit that I like how Stock Android looks like. I experienced JB and I had a nerdgasm, if you are comfortable with such concepts :D :p However as others pointed out the real benefit of Sense ROMs is to get a working ROM. Rest assured that if you have a Nexus device, the AOSP ROM will run like butter on it. Without a single random hiccup. I bet no one owning a Nexus ever thought, "Gee, AOSP is great but I wish I had some Sense".. That is a ironic statement, because if he did have some sense, he would never install a Sense ROM even if it were possible! Plus you can theme the phone and attempt to get a Sense like look and feel (theoretically, I have not heard of any such themes)...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
I woke up this morning and thought, "It's finally tomorrow!" Then I realized that it's just today.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Did anyone else not get the OTA yesterday?!?!!?!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
You can theme aosp to look like sense, but why? Personally I think sense looks heavy, overly laden with bulk in a world where brawn is certainly not better, faster, more optimal.

That said, the vivow was designed for sense, and devs like Nitsuj17 have done some great things with it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ZR2Noma:
I stopped waiting for tomorrow's ota. Tacoroot and downgrade.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Camaro305:
I got mine the day before yesterday. Must have been in the first batch of IMEI's. :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jcpowell:
Don't worry HTC is all over this whole ICS update thing they told me on Twitter in response to my constant harassment and I know I can trust them and Verizon.

@prairiedogn*We're actively working with Verizon on ICS,*and we'll notify customers as soon as we have an update. Thanks for your patience.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] wmsforties:
I smell sarcasm ! :thumbup:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] OFish202:
I smell something..... but its not sarcasm!

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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] xHoLyx:
Trust is big word to use on HTC and Verizon.

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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
We can trust HTC, just not Verizon. Verizon won't make money on an update
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nyccharlie:
if one has S-Off, and the OTA is pushed down, will that kill S-Off?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jeremytn86:
As long as you have a custom recovery it shouldn't be able to push it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] funky_snowman:
i hate verizon more and more the longer i have this phone. unlocked nexus or iphone as soon as my contract is up.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PharmCAT:
Haha, same here. I am dying to finally get off CDMA, never-mind the service quality or customer support, I just continue being jealous of people that can simply have one unlocked phone and jump from a GSM provider to another one for whatever reason without any problem.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nyccharlie:
I'm still at s-off, but running stock. I downloaded RUU_Vivo_W_Gingerbread_S_VERIZON_WWE_5.10.605.9_Ra dio_1.09.01.1111_NV_VZW1.92_release_225831_signed. exe ran it and still have s-off.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Truckin'Ain't4Sissies:
I smell something prairiedogn :D

LMAO @prairiedogn

-Truckin-
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jeremytn86:
Yeah, that's not the new one were all waiting on, it will be different, I would not advise flashing the stock ruu of it when it comes out...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ZR2Noma:
This thread kinda died after August passed lol.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Dkesler76:
I agree
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] seejoshplay:
Yeah, we all woke up and it was today.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
It isn't tomorrow yet. We're still in August then!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
I disagree. We didn't die. We never die.

'Twas our spirit that died today,

And die it did in a gruesome way.

Not for the lack of heart, nor the soul,

Nor was it because HTC ran afoul

With the terms of the Apache License.

'Twas because we didn't yet get our tasty, tasty treat with HTC Sense!

:D :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Truckin'Ain't4Sissies:
I can haz tomorrow?

-Truckin-
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
To your point about getting a nexus. I just got the nexus 7 and not once have I said "man, this could use some HTC sense"
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Makes sense to me.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Yellowsun:
I second this.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jeremytn86:
not saying that you or anyone would want it, but it its possible to port sense to non sense phone, it was done on the fascinate and the optimus i believe.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
I think it can be done but I think I remember nits saying it'd be a huge pita
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
Yea, it can. But it isn't as easy to do, and it won't run as smooth as it would on an HTC phone.

Like how are cm7 isn't as smooth as the nexus S with CM7. We came with sense, the nexus s was already designed to run vanilla android.

But anyway I'm a flashalchalic so I'D get bored with plan old ICS/JB.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
Because compared to touchwiz sense is a dream.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ben805:
SO..........no official ICS for our DINC2? :D:D:D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Is it tomorrow yet?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
It will be tomorrow... but it won' t. So, no, I guess, unless it isn't coming tomorrow, we won't get it. I think.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
Before a company does anything involving developing software they decide if there even going to do it. Having that said there was a leak of official ICS made by HTC. So we know that HTC has made the decision to develop official ICS for our phones. However......

There is another company in the mix, Verizon. Verizon can do whatever they want as far as updating goes. Even if HTC has software ready to be OTAed.

I belive that HTC gave Verizon the software about a month ago, and that verizon has finished bloating it. Verizon is going to give us the OTA. However before that, Verizon is going to attempt to make all the dinc 2 owners belive that the software is never comming and get them to upgrade as possible. And after all that's done (In about 2-3 weeks from now) we will have official ICS. And later.... the kernal source.

Long story short, Verizon's a ****
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Verizon the jerk is insecure about its "endowments"... Hence, it acts like a prick.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Maybe it should just buy a really loud Harley to compensate? :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
I think they need a Ford F350 lifted about 3 feet with smoke stacks. Oh and stickers with company logos. Maybe then they will be secure enough to give us the OTA.

Sent from my ICS Dinc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] killface0:
I'm pretty sure it's tomorrow, however I can't be sure. Let me check my phone for an update....nope. It's still yesterday. The phone told me so. Or is it? :eek:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
Dude, I just predicted that it would come tomorrow. Not cool ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
What is today but merely tomorrow's yesterday? What is yesterday but simply the day before the day before's tomorrow? What is tomorrow but merely tomorrow?

Hence, what is today but simply the day before the day before tomorrow's tomorrow! Hence, folks, tomorrow is HERE!

Switch your phone on, slap on some stock and experience ICS! Muhahahahaha! :laugh:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PharmCAT:
What we should consider as well is whether the Incredible 2 is really ready for ICS? I mean, we already have all that debt, plus the wars in Middle East never seem to end, people fighting over rights of women and gay people, Palestine and Israel can't seem to get their **** together. Bringing ICS to the Incredible 2 is a pretty big move in the mobile industry, and I guess, maybe HTC are just being careful and not to add more stress on to the world.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
It's all connected.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PharmCAT:
Damn you Obama! :crying:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
Fail: It's George Bush's fault.

But Obama did kill bin Laden (Or he would like to think so because the name of the man who did was not released :D)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JehC:
Why Verizon gotta be a cockblock for ics :(
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ZR2Noma:
Cause that's what Verizon does best. ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Scumbag Steve Rick Scott (cause I can hit two birds with one stone...)

Or did I hit two stones with one bird? Hmmm....
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
I don't know what you just said, but I think I agree with you. ICS for all!!!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Yeah, I was just playing with words. Yesterday's tomorrow is today.. the day before yesterday is two days back, and its tomorrow is yesterday and another tomorrow makes it today...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsua98:
I hate all this goddamn suspense!

Because he's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
I like that you changed the color. But I have a suggestion... Can you make it such that in the email notification I get from XDA, it too has your stuff colored! XD I get tricked into reading it there too! :)

Alright, I am pulling your leg now.. Just to let u know, I think that is not possible... so cool! :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsua98:
It seems like you put in a lot of work for nothing :sly:

Because he's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
I got the OTA like three months ago.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] tinhduong:
whattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
What can I say? I'm a magician.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] tinhduong:
Please, tell me it the truth, that you got the OTA today :-<

we have waited for too long...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
It's coming. Tomorrow.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] brandonrossl:
In the words of the Backstreet Boys: Quit playin games with my heart.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
No seriously I got it like a month ago. My sources tell me everyone else will get it by this Friday.

:cyclops:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jameshmiller:
Do otters have brown eyes? ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nyccharlie:
As with the INC 2, the Droid Bionic was promised an update as well. I have a Bionic because of work. I'm waiting to see which one gets the update first. The race is on! :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Silly mortal. Us immortals signed a deal with VZW to get all the OTAs at the same time as Google releases them in exchange for life long servitude and the soul as well... Pretty good deal I feel. Never again will I be left behind when Google releases the OTA! ;)

For those with a poor sense of sarcasm, sorry, but I lied! Muhahahahaha!

Bring it on, my brotha from another motha! :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenaut:
Tomorrow never dies. In this case, literally. It never dies.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JehC:
i see someone either works at verizon or HTC
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] romma1:
Sounds like VZW has the update from HTC???

Like ·

Scott Wilson For Ice Cream Sandwich that is..

4 hours ago · Like

Russell Cormier Agreed...where is that ICS update?

3 hours ago · Unlike · 1

Daniel Sanchez Where is the ICS update?!?!?!

about an hour ago · Like

Allen Lee right?!?!? HTCs own deadline for notification on whether INC 2 will get ICS came and went on 08/31....

55 minutes ago · Like

HTC USA We know we are late with the update. We are actively working with Verizon to get it to you as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience.

2 minutes ago · Like

Scott Wilson Sounds like it is in VZW hands now.

a few seconds ago · Like
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Camaro305:
I'm sure they do.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
I bet they do. Gotta bloat that **** up before releasing it!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] romma1:
Never Mind Facebook, XDA needs a dislike button.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
y'all hatin', 'cause we trollin'!

U mad? I am having a fun time with this ICS thread, while I realize a lot of u out there are clearly frustrated by the whole nonsense!!! I am happy, totting my Sense 4 Dinc2... Yay. This stuff is way better than the shiz that HTC and VZW will stuff down our throat in a few days, weeks, months, years (!? nah.. they won't take years.. I think)..

Plus I realize that the main timeline I am concerned with is NOT the OTA, but the ETA of the kernel source. So, therefore I am already resigned that it will be months before we can improve our JB and ICS AOSP ROMs and so.. in the meantime...

Y'all hatin', 'cause I'm trollin'!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
There's an ignore button. USE IT!

:good:

With no ICS OTA, there isn't much else to do in an ICS OTA thread but troll.

:angel:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] CondemnedSoul:
I'd gladly say to hell with the ota if it'll make this happen. :D

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/10/apple_htc_patent/
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
+1
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
The day iPhone is indefinitely banned in the US (I get a nerdgasm everytime I even mentally picture it) I'll invite y'all for a big party down the east coast, may be at Ocean City, MD!

Wooohooo! Let the party begin! :D :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
YES.....Its our turn now *****es!

I don't care if we get OTA, I just want kernel source lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ZR2Noma:
I'd be happy to not see another iPhone. Just saying. ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JediNinjafication:
Ok guys..i have wandered outside my area to ask a question about this phone. I have gnex so don't know squat about htc. My friend here is having internet issue and i see you guys are waiting on an ota. Her phone has been flashed to cricket but has all the Verizon stuff on it.

Could this be causing her phone to not connect Wi-Fi?

Network operator is listed unknown and roaming? I don't see super user and i turned off her task killer. If was a Samsung I'd be all over it but kinda lost here. Thanks!

Oops...Not cricket. Is Verizon

*Shaolin Shadowboxing*
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Sounds like she's not rooted (s-off). But she's flashed to cricket? Not quite following you. Dinc2 is a global phone (gsm & cdma) so it should be able to run on any network with the right rom & sim installed.

Is she htc unlocked? More info, please. ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jameshmiller:
@Rushead

Dude! You cut your hair and died it blonde! WTH!!! :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] seejoshplay:
what day is it?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
It's not tomorrow yet, if that's what you are after.

:D

-CM7 on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
I think Verizon may have been afraid that the summer heat would just melt the ice cream, so they need to wait for the weather to cool down a little. It should be here tomorrow.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JediNinjafication:
I dont believe its rooted and she knows NOTHING about root. She uses..(puked in mouth) apple. I cant remember the push button to get ti recovery in htc. And... no..its not on cricket. I confused her phone with her man. I wish had more info but all can say is all radios are in. I turned off the conserve power when low battery. She had a task killer going that i disabled. She got it from craigslist... can you jog my memory wha to push to get into recovery? Can probably take it from there but i really dont think its rooted.. dont see any of the programs and unable to browse files due to wont connect so can download something.

*Shaolin Shadowboxing*
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bsmitty83:
Please see:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=29164380

And: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=28290166
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jameshmiller:
How thoughtful of them. :rolleyes:

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Probably not the right thread, but anywho. WiFi is turned on? Network is setup? If she is stock, are gonna root her? ;) To get to recovery/bootloader - with phone off - Hold down VOL down while holding power. If that don't work then pull battery and try again. Good Luck, but you may have better luck getting help in the Q&A forum.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Hey, hey! No hijacking threads... Although we are definitely glad to help ya out, you're ruining my party! I was here dissing the ICS OTA and you come along and distract my guests to help ya out.. Now all everyone can think of is what happened to that phone, and poor me is stuck in the corner, delivering punchline after punchline to an empty chair and a glass full of scotch! Not fair I say! ;) <joking>

Guys! Come back! I have another goodie!

So what does VZW say to you when you ask for some extra bread with our ice cream sandwich!?

"No ICS for you! NEXT!" hehehe VZW is the ICS nazi!

*chirp* *chirp* *distant cough*
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JediNinjafication:
Thought thats what it was and no...not going to root her. Dont have time to be fixing/ teaching someone the how-tos of a device i dont use...besides...sprint finally sent my ota so can get off this port and roll the true jb ninja style... by the way... im not sure what the htc dialer codes are but for gnex its *#*#checkin#*#* then immediately go to system update and check for update. If they have released your ota anywhere that forces the update to you regardless of demographics. Clear your cache first and if there is an ota rolling anywhere...youll get it. Consider that tip my hijack payment

*Shaolin Shadowboxing*

Kinda read a bit of this and you htc guys are funny
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsua98:
So guys...

Because he's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.