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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
It's sad that this is necessary. Also, did you guys hear the news? OTA is coming tomorrow!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
Unfortunately I don't think tomorrow never coming will prevent the iphone from being announced tomorrow when it becomes today. :mad:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Is Apple's definition of tomorrow the same as Verizon's?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Apple uses a static definition of tomorrow. They essentially conjure an "instance" of tomorrow. Then, tomorrow is NO longer tomorrow, but rather a particular date, like September 12. when HTC or VZW use the phrase tomorrow, it is a dynamic variable that updates its value based on the current state. It is a "relative" term. Hence, VZW or HTC's definition of tomorrow is "Today + 1 day". Though a more generic definition of tomorrow and though it doesn't use hardcoded information thereby leading to more robust code (Android vs. iOScrapOS), it leads to unintended consequences, namely customers being in a perpetual limbo state of not receiving the coveted update...

An unfortunate trade off...

Hurry up, :shakes fist:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
What he said.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
:mindblown:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PharmCAT:
Oh yeah, well at least their one year old phones still get access to the newest OS. We get nothing! :(

Release dates:

"October 14, 2011" - iPhone 4s

"May 2011" - Incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
And that OS looks exactly the same as the last one they had :P Also, they only have like 3 phones to update, so it's a tiny bit easier.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mushypizza:
Update @ HTC press event on the 19th? :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jameshmiller:
It makes perfect sense!

Einstein stated that the theory of relativity belongs to a class of "principle-theories". As such it employs an analytic method. This means that the elements which comprise this theory are not based on hypothesis but on empirical discovery. The empirical discovery leads to understanding the general characteristics of natural processes. Mathematical models are then developed which separate the natural processes into theoretical-mathematical descriptions. Therefore, by analytical means the necessary conditions that have to be satisfied are deduced. Separate events must satisfy these conditions. Experience should then match the conclusions.

Yeppers, It's Relative alright.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Truckin'Ain't4Sissies:
A.D.D. got the best of me on that one. SQUIRREL!!

-Truckin-
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
Apple has been issued patents on "tomorrow", so any company trying to make use of it could be in for a court battle.

-CM7 on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PharmCAT:
Oh yes, I am pretty sure it's very hard for multi-million dollar company to do what people like aeroevon have been doing for free. :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
ROTFLMFAO!

Short Bus Special :cyclops:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
I don't mean to discount what aerovan or any other dev does but developing for a couple phones is a lot different than what manufacturers do. There's a reason that they need source to make things run really well. Most of our devs are extremely talented (the ones that aren't are only VERY talented :p ) and all of them are extremely devoted but very few of them write large pieces of code from scratch.

Besides the OTA is coming tomorrow so there's nothing to worry about... Lol

Sent from my ICS Dinc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JediNinjafication:
Thanks to everyone for help..turns out my phone was jacking our entire network up. I'm only one dual band and having an internal issue. Once took care of that her phone connected right away. Appreciate it and hope that ota comes for you.

*Shaolin Shadowboxing*
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Err, yes. That's EXACTLY what I meant! :rolleyes: ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] seejoshplay:
<trollface>

Oh yeah, happy new iPhone day to everyone on the board. I guess we are all going to tune into that announcement to finally see if we get ICS.

(images removed b/cos HUGE) >> http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/2/2d/Trollface_HD.png

problem?

</trollface>
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] CondemnedSoul:
Straight from the horses ass... I mean mouth :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] brymaster5000:
VZW forgot to use the cosmological constant...henceforth no tomorrow until they get that right...

Sent from my Kang Banged Dinc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PharmCAT:
Guys! The iOS 6 is a total ripoff of Jellybean!....ummm....I mean ICS!....ummm..... In theory, had there been HTC ICS for the phone...yeah!...Ripoff of..that!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] OFish202:
That's how crapple does things.... Copycats everything good and then claims its an earthshaking idea and charges you part of your soul for it!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Huston, we got a problem... We lost all Sense of logic in this thread. Please advice, over.

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Be patient oh little one. Your tasty treat should arrive any day now. The package has left the Death Star and is in radio space... ETA - 2 solar* days

*Undisclosed sun and a day is measured in an undisclosed manner. Basically you will know it is time when it is time.

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On a side note: We now know how Apple's miniPhone and jumbo phone look like:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Hey Wheat Thin, I mean Triscuit...

Thanks a lot for this thread. It's been a lot of fun. Never imagined it'd get more than 50 pages! :cyclops:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Dkesler76:
alot hope giving up in :silly: this thread lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
Haha thanks, I never thought it would get this big, its fun to watch all of you guys banter and rant.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JediNinjafication:
Every since asked for advice with friends phone this thread keeps showing in my app so i kinda follow it. I think I'm just as anxious and excited as you guys. Can't wait until the title reads "it finally came"!

*Shaolin Shadowboxing*
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JehC:
I'm pretty sure we will all be dead from old age by the time that happens, stupid Verizon.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JediNinjafication:
Have you heard of anyone getting it yet? Have you guys tried doing a "checkin" with phone to network?

*Shaolin Shadowboxing*
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
I "checked for update" on my phone this morning. Phone says "no update available today, but check back tomorrow for super special surprise."
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JediNinjafication:
I think Verizon is trolling you guys.

*Shaolin Shadowboxing*
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Tarpit_Carnivore:
I heard from my father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate that it's tomorrow.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate is wrong. My mother's uncle's son's daughter's friend's teacher's student's dad works for Verizon, and he says his coworker's boss's boss's associate said the day after tomorrow.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
ICS Definitely sometime in the future, may be!

Well, you know that if and when Verizon releases said piece of software we will be in a quantum state of both joy and cry because we know that we just got a crappy piece of ICS (cry) but we know that we will eventually get kernel source (joy). We continue to fluctuate in these two states until it destroys our emotional compass and we become hollow shells of zombie-like creatures whose only purpose in life is to satisfy the greed of this multi-mill(bill? Or Zill?)ion corporation... And I for one don't see the value in becoming said zombie. So, therefore, I am now in a quantum state of both want and not. And this will lead to my mental capabilities to self implode, if this trend continues... And I don't see the value in mental implosion. So therefore, I am now in a state of interacting on XDA and not, because apparently said interaction will cause mental implosion. However such a fluctuation will lead to the XDA servers being permanently crashed. I for one don't see the val...

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*After a long, long, really long time*

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and I for one don't see the value in killing a pig to make a dinosaur eat humus.

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*Let's go further into the future*

One martian says to another: Who da hell is this guy talking to and why does he repeatedly say "and I for one don't see the value"?*

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* English was sooo pervasive and prevalent that even Martians thought, "Eh, screw dat. We needa learn us some English to dominate in the Earth galactic market when we come to invade it."
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Nice!

Since when did Martians become Italians from New Jersey? :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jonw757:
Are there any similarities in ICS and JB that would make this official release helpful for those of us running JB?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
Since JB is supposed to be a hot rod ICS, I'm gonna bet "yes".

-CM7 on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
the official release will imply eventual revelation of the coveted source code of the Kernel. It will update our kernel from GB to ICS. JB is primarily ICS 2.0 - a tweaked and better ICS. As far as I know, a proper ICS kernel will possibly be enough for making JB work at 100% and so as ICS working at 100%. There is a small possibility that it may only make JB work at 95% but I am no dev so let them answer that. Still, that means remarkably more stable ICS and JB ROMs.

BUT!

The kernel source will be months away from the OTA date! You can thank HTC for that policy. I suggest couriering them some brickbats and a nice how-to tutorial on spanking themselves. ;) :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JediNinjafication:
Jelly bean smokes ICS. I was running a port. Sprint just dropped our binary earlier this week.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JehC:
HTC told me they're still working with Verizon.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Verizon told me they were still working with Jesus. He has a say in the OTA as well.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JediNinjafication:
You guys make me wanna get an HTC lol

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Jebus said YES! Jebus said yes!!! Thank you Gee... you da man! Now VZW needs to get a yes from its main partner --- Satan. Oh they signed a deal with Satan that allows them to even have a business on this planet... It is only due to Him. Come, my fellow VZW customers, lets pay homage to our greatest benefactor and lets worship Him and dance the demonic dances to get us in His favor and thereby get the OTA! XD :D

"I believe in Satan, do you?" - VZW
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Hey Satan is Jesus's bro.... gotta give him some say too right? Allah next?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] OFish202:
This is getting weird!

Sent from my Incredible 2 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Oh if this is weird, sit tight till we rip past page 100... Things will get pretty weird, pretty fast from now on!

You'll see things you've never seen before.

Ooooooooohhh.... excited? Then buckle up! :D ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bberryhill0:
Off topic but is there any news about the ICS OTA?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] OFish202:
I'm fully aware of this! I have my popcorn and soda! Let's do this boys! :beer::D

Sent from my Incredible 2 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] brandonrossl:
Do they have a nodenominational port?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
That's NOT an off topic question, we've been so off topic lately that we've forgotten the real topic lol and latest news to my knowledge is: HTC gave the update to Satanrizon (Verizon) and they are filling it with demons and lost souls (aka. Bloatware) so its a waiting game for now.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
When Satan gets his hands on some helpless souls he likes to keep them trapped in the circles of hell... So, that doesn't bode well for our ICS :crying: Poor l'il ICS... It had a heart of gold, a spear of the toughest metal on earth. It was a warrior... But alas, HTC handed ICS into the hands of Satan himself! Oh, the torment our ICS is going through, it is far worse than what Jesus experienced when he suffered for our sins... Our poor, beloved ICS is suffering, not for our sins but so that it can make us happy. It is suffering, so that "we" can live!

:')

You can do it ICS! You can do it... :crying: you can... :sob: (lips quivering) do it! :crying:

(dang, that's weird, ain't it! ;))
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
No no no! Theres no way that Satan has anything to do with the OTA....

..... He wouldn't allow that much bloat. Not even Satan is that cruel.

Sent from my ICS Dinc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JediNinjafication:
Still?!?!

*Shaolin Shadowboxing*
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] densetsu86:
He's a question from somebody with no coding knowledge known to man. If we can kang a rom why can't we kang a kernal? I mean take a look at a win7 PC. Tons of different hardware but all use the same kernal to run win7.

Why in the PC world which is not so different to phones other then phones use SoC the software can run on virtually any hardware as long as the hardware is powerful enough (ie meets minimum specs)?

Why can't a dev or kernal dev compare let's say a nexus' gb kernal to our kernal and see what was changed so they can "Frankenstein" a nexus' kernal to run for our phone. I mean HTC must do this originally anyway. They get all their crap from google and then f around with it so why can't we do the same?

I guess a dev with disposable income is needed since hard bricking is possible(?).

That's always been on my mind. Other then the fact that a smart phone is essentially a very portable and weak computer but still a computer none the less and are capable of running the same OS (android like how PC all can run win7) why the hell is the software side so much different.

Doesn't Google realize if they make a good damn universal kernal like Ms does there will be no fragmentation of android.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
Probably because putting kernals in your phone would be messy, and might make popcorn if it overheats.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jameshmiller:
I feel sorry for him. He sounds like a very lonely man.:crying:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ilichva:
Again have to wait for tomorrow ... And so to the New Year?!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Toooooooooooooooooooooooooomorrow! Tomorrow! I love ya! Tomorrow!

You're only a day away!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Maybe Verizon somehow controls time and when we think it's tomorrow, it's actually the day before tomorrow. Damn Verizon is controlling our minds! DX
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Is this the Matrix?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
That's what aeroevans done with his aosp kernel he took our GB kernel and hacked it up to run ICS
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
Some colleges give degrees for shorter dissertations than that!

Kudos!

-CM7 on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Lies! If we can reverse engineer dinosaur DNA from mosquitos encased in amber, we can reverse engineer Android kernels!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
I'm getting a baaaad feeling about this. All this talk about satan, etc... and now I just noticed we are down to one mod: The Archangel!

We're either about to be saved, or really really screwed.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Well, anything is technically possible. And I suppose some guys can test the crap out of our hardware by probing signals and slowly get the code... But the thing is it is probably too much of a pain and will take a long time and/or few people may have those skills! That is what, I think, happens with Linux on PC and support for devices. A lot of times manufacturers, at least in the past, don't give binaries compatible with Linux. So, to coax out some basic support for those types of devices, devs sorta use reverse engineering techniques to peak into the way the device interfaces and all and hence get a semi-working device.

Much like what our devs did to make Camera work on our device for ICS. But they, thankfully, had help in the form of a working GB module. Again, correct me if I am wrong here kind devs, but I think some of the effort was to make the GB parts work with ICS by essentially working out how ICS handles things differently than GB...

---------- Post added at 12:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:43 PM ----------

It is the calm before the storm (calm == lack of ICS, storm == ICS has arrived) that usually signals something major is gonna happen!

Shiz just got Real! :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Lol I have no freaking clue man. You sound right.

All I want to know now is when I'm going to get my pet baby velociraptor. Tomorrow, right?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
Yes, but we all know what tomorrow means by now
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Doesn't he have a REAL job? My master's thesis was MUCH shorter (which is why I abandoned it :p)

Seriously, though, lite needs a woman! :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
Hmmm..... You just gave me an idea.... Maybe we need to switch to sacrificing velociraptors to the fail gods instead of otters, lambs, kittens, penguins, koala bears, puppies, seals, virgins or whatever else we are currently using! Maybe then Verizon will give us the OTA and HTC will give us kernel source!

Alright who has the amber with the prehistoric mosquitos in it so we can start this process!?

Sent from my ICS Dinc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
I got the amphibian DNA to fill in the holes.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bberryhill0:
Sorry to go off topic again but there is no "a" in kernel. And ect stands for Electro Convulsive Therapy. That is all...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
Here he goes ruining our fun.......but seriously no "a" in kernel :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Revolution against Verizon for not releasing the OTA in a timely manner!? I SAY YES! XD
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
BUT, there are 2 As in carnal. :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
ICS OTA is Officially Out!!! :D

HTC Website: http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-droid-incredible2-verizon/software-updates ;)

And!

Verizon Website: http://support.verizonwireless.com/pdf/system_update/incredible2.pdf :angel:

:cyclops: Sooo goood!!! Aaaah!!! Finally!!! Un-fricking-believable!!! :cool:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Dammit! You almost gave me hope that Verizon would actually push the update! DX
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
I hate you.....I literally almost dropped my phone trying to click on those links lol no more false hope!!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Did you like his surprise?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] klabit87:
Damn this sucks!

I don't even have this device anymore and I am still anxious to get it.

My brother has it now and once it is released I will be loading it up on there.

Let him get a taste of ice cream.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
I doubt my mother would be able to discern the difference so I'm just gonna leave the CM9 in there (unless I can find a way to take the phone from here without her noticing). :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
id bet anything we get chinese kernel source months before verizons
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sjpritch25:
Your probably right. Just hope we get it soon.

I've been keeping my eyes open at the thread for s-off on the inc 4g lte. I hope they are successful because that will be my next phone. I'm probably going to buy it because i want to keep my unlimited data and my contract isn't up till may of next year.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
I'd wait a bit after they gain S off on the LTE. You should make sure they have good dev support. Like this phone
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
They do. Nitsuj17 and andybones.

Sent from my KangBang'd out vivow
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
+1 and Aero, too.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Not yet, if/when they get s-off, and not brick the phone used for testing, Andy is gonna donate it to aero.

Sent from my KangBang'd out vivow
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
My bad... Just wishful think/hoping I guess.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
"Source was just released today. So next release will be built from source rather than a port."

This was said by a dev today on the JB Paranoid Android topic.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] prototype7:
Paranoid android source, not our kernel source.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
Ah.....should've had one less beer before I posted. :banghead:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Or a few more, lol.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] CondemnedSoul:
You're as bad as me lol

Sent from Kangdemnation
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
My phone needs to have a feature to block me from certain apps while I'm drinking haha, could you incorporate that into your next build??!! :thumbup:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ninjasailas:
+1
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
This goes to the cray cray thread! Done.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
Looks like I'm getting an inc 4g
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Did someone say alcohol? Mountain dew and whisky mmmmmm
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
Mountain Dew? Ugghhh. You're drinking the wrong whiskey. ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] seejoshplay:
I want my
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
Soo.......... ICS?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bsmitty83:
I know everyone is waiting on the kernel source for ics , but couldn't the kernel in the leaked update be used as a base? I know nothing about the technical side of it but just was curious

Viviow..? More like vivWoW
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] xHoLyx:
You can build Sense with it, but not AOSP.

Sent from Inc 2 using Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
On a serious note, I really dunno why we can't use the Sense Kernel for AOSP... I think may be it is because the various modules that people so desperately need to make AOSP ICS/JB work are difficult to extract from the compiled Kernel and hence the source is needed to easily incorporate it into AOSP! Just a hypothesis! Where is Nits or Aerovan or any of the other devs? I am sure they can give a clear explanation...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rushead:
If HTC really passed the update to verizon, then it's done, right? (obviously aside from vzw bloating)

So whose d**k do we have to s**k to get it leaked??? Now I personally am not into that sort of thing, but I'm sure we can find someone who can be coerced....;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] farandel:
Or paid. :cool:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
No :what:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
In order to get the OTA... we must join the dark side and obey Verizon's will
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PharmCAT:
And by that you mean we should upgrade to extend our contracts by another 2 years! :crying:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] david_hume:
Unfortunately. I just jumped the ship while managing to keep my unlimited data. My payback to Verizon? Use 15GB+ for delaying the damned OTA.

Another method? Go to another carrier and get faster updates. Still slow as hell, but at least they push out updates in a certain amount of time vs Verizon, which keeps delaying the OTA.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] litetaker:
Pretty much. I can't believe how much we are being forced to pay. The major companies have essentially set up a cartel.. as we can all tell, both VZW and AT&T jacked up prices and changed plans at around the same time... both have added similar additional fees at the same time... and for what. to be able to enjoy 1X data frequently with occasional sluggish 3G and poor reception unless you align your phone with the stars. What exactly happened to the whole infrastructure? huh?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] seejoshplay:
I know this comes as little comfort, but gingerbread still has incredible market share, over 50%. So... technically 2012 is still the year of GB.

Which sucks, I want to get on the bean already.