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[Nexus 7 General] Nbsss:
This is my driving me nuts..........

Pros

Specs-faster gpu and twice ram

Better screen

Better build quality - no creaking or screen lift

Less wide? More pocketable

HDMI - if can't use my usb wireless Logitech controller with otg than kinda pointless for me though

Can have 2 tabs for distinct purposes - double battery life

Do I really need two tabs?

I have a spare $300 atm due to not buying the nexus 4

More future proof

Will be able to get 32gb this time round

Cons

Will have 2 tabs that do 99% the same thing

No otg support

No native Ubuntu support

No multirom support

Less community dev initially

I'm happy with my current rom setup, speed customisation etc

No tegra graphics

I bought the kickstarter for microsd adapter

CPU is about the same, just gpu is better in gen2

Already pocketable

I've optimised ram usage on my n7 with a script I made (there's always at least 250-550mb free ram. So only real hardware upgrade is gpu and screen.

Screen is already amazing imo

I've unwittingly fixed ghost touches which was my no1 reason to upgrade

Will only get better and faster with future android versions

Would sell for dirt cheap

Mostly likely worse battery life due to smaller battery and 1200p screen.

Slimport costs money

I've already got tons of n7 accessories

My usage case doesn't need more powerful hardware

No textured back!

No snapdragon 800 (or 600), so not SO future proof

Help me, I was so sure before............
[Nexus 7 General] Richieboy67:
If you are getting lag like that then you probably need to go through your apps.

Computers don't generally slow down because of age. lol
[Nexus 7 General] jonmorris:
I did a full reset of my Nexus 7 (16GB) and it's back to being really fast. Silly time to do this (last week) as it now makes it very hard to justify buying the new model when it's announced later today.

I think I've decided, especially now having seen the new video shown today, that I

will

wait until there's a 3G/4G version released. At least I'll then be getting something that's significantly different to what I have.

Of course full-HD would be good but while that's great on my Xperia Tablet Z, I look at the Nexus 7 and can't really say it's low-resolution or that the pixels are really noticeable. And, as I said, do a reset if you've noticed it has begun to lag (and let's hope 4.3 might solve this once and for all).

The new Nexus 7 is the 3GS/4S of the Nexus world. If you follow the logic from Apple, first generation owners would skip this for the following model, and so on.

But, hey, given its price - it will always be tempting!!
[Nexus 7 General] biggiestuff:
Pretty sure it's because of the lack of ram. My n4 with basically the same activity shows no slow down. But instead of changing my computing habits I'd rather get a device that meets my demands. 2gb is a must for me
[Nexus 7 General] Nbsss:
I usually have 400mb of free ram. No lag. I'll upload my script tomorrow.
[Nexus 7 General] biggiestuff:
mine is well below that. usually ranges from 280-320mb free. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't lag ALL the time but when it does i'm sure the RAM free is dipping low. I recently factory reset the N7 for my wife and she uses it now with barely any apps running and it's MUCH faster than when I was using it but it's still noticeably slower than my N4 by far.
[Nexus 7 General] jonmorris:
Fair point. 2GB RAM will probably make the new N7 far quicker in many cases.
[Nexus 7 General] fantabrothe:
hi mates, after eight months with my N7, i'm still quite happy but i like to change tech things very quickly and i've waited for good news for the updated models: honestly the new n7 II is not my new desire, i'm looking for something with bigger screen, with mhl output, that's all.

So i'll enjoy my old" n7 playing again with 4.3 custom roms and kernels until i'll change it for a new nexus 10 (or nexus 8 if existing).
[Nexus 7 General] jfed:
I have a 32gb first gen running prime 6-22 it is fast and battery life is good. I will keep this model no reason so far to change. Plus otg works on mine with 4.2.2 it didn't when i tried 4.3
[Nexus 7 General] yguns76:
Absolutely love my Nexus 7, use it mainly as a media consumption device. Still does this extremely well. Just updated to 4.3 with no issues.

In your situation, I would certainly get the newest version of the Nexus 7. If money was an issue, I would get the older ones no less than 16Gb. You can always get an OTG to expand your memory.
[Nexus 7 General] Richieboy67:
1 gig is plenty of ram unless you have a bunch of crap running in the background. If you were using up a high of ram just from background processes your battery life would be awful..

Funny how people say 1 gig is slow. Try to think back a year or two or longer. single core cpu with not even 500mb of ram.. still ran ok for most tasks.
[Nexus 7 General] jonmorris:
There are still dual core devices with just 512MB RAM and they manage. Obviously lower end devices, but still usable. 1GB should be okay and there's always the risk that as you increase it, devs get lazy.

Should a smartphone need as much RAM as a desktop PC? When will we see an Android device with 4GB (as was for a short while rumoured for the 2013 N7) and then one with 8GB?

I am sure someone, Samsung?, will do it if only to offer something new for people to buy.
[Nexus 7 General] IRX120:
I think Google could make android ALOT less resource heavy lol, the iPhone 4 with a 800mhz one core CPU and 512mb of ram smoothly runs iOS 6/7 and yet an android phone of those specs can be slow running 4.0, if android is going to continue to be resource heavy, then we will see device with 3 and 4 gigs of ram. And the quad core processors are here to stay, I see only the quality of the chips increasing.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus VZW @1.2 GHz on Stock 4.3
[Nexus 7 General] mrazndead:
I'm thrilled with my tablet! Original one for life

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If google wanted to murder the tablet space, they should release a 4gig, 512mb ram nexus 7 for 100 for the poorer folks. That would kill the competition. Covering the entire spectrum, no one else would come out with tablets
[Nexus 7 General] jonmorris:
I don't think Google wants to kill all the competition, at least not yet.

While it could potentially go it alone (and all the main manufacturers would bend over backwards to build the new Nexus devices, so keep the cost to Google down further) I am not sure that's a good strategy in the long run.

Choice is what makes Android so powerful, and Google could never manage even a fraction of the devices on sale now under its own management.

But it's clearly something Samsung is fearful of, given how hard it worked on making the S4 a stepping stone to Tizen, of which now seems to be about to flop before it has even launched...
[Nexus 7 General] mrazndead:
Google has so much momentum right now it will put Microsoft's surface 12 feet deep for sure. Its targeting iPads now. Imagine if google didn't come out with android and only apple and Microsoft had tablets. Not nearly as many people would afford tablets, Microsoft and apple would sell them for 400+ always, no iPad mini either I bet,

Google is helping drive prices down and give consumer choices, apple really needs to counter with a better and cheaper iPad. Sure their profit margins are nicer, but in The long run their users will stay stagnent and that would be what breaks them. Microsoft isn't even in the conversation when it comes to tablets.
[Nexus 7 General] Richieboy67:
The iPhone does not have a widget system like Android which is a big attraction for Android. The memory use just depends on the user. It is not so resource heavy if using minimal apps.

Plus, you sure talking more about app developers causing much of the resource hoggage. many of them add all kinds of fata collection garbage. I always leave negative feedback for those that do that.
[Nexus 7 General] burziq:
Yes I love it. It won't be outdated anytime soon and it's still smooth as butter. Plus it's been about six months since I use it and there is not a single sctratch. I keep it really safe ;)

P.S. And the touch screen is the most responsive screen I've ever seen. You can barely touch it with a nail and it works.
[Nexus 7 General] :
It's not widgets that makes iOS "faster" than Android, it's how the entire system is built from a task-management perspective. The ability of any app to run in the background is heavily restricted on iOS (although you certainly can find ones that will manage to kill your battery nevertheless). The system also limits the number of background processes much more aggressively than most Android ROMs. The built in governors are similar to our standard governors (interactive) in that they'll ramp up CPU/GPU speeds upon user interaction, but iOS biases foreground interface processes (i.e. those that the user interacts with and sees) so that they always have priority and update smoothly.

You lose a little bit of functionality, sure, but it's what has kept iOS running smoothly on older hardware (and newer hardware as well). It does damage control for badly-written apps better than Android in that regard.
[Nexus 7 General] Scooter30:
I'm starting to get lag and it's annoying. I think I'm going to try letting TRIM do it's thing if that doesn't work I will do a fresh 4.3 install.
[Nexus 7 General] cmshane:
I started using mine primarily for taking notes at Uni. It became a huge chore after waiting 5 minutes to unlock as the professor sped on through material, however it began to run as if it was out of the box after I freed up some memory (deleted a bunch of magazines, hadn't realized how much space they took up). With that and the 4.3 update, I'm as happy as can be with my N7.
[Nexus 7 General] browy:
I'll make it short. Things i don't like about the N7.

- The screen looks a bit washed out. I'm not a fan of over saturated AMOLED either but colors display on the N7 needs to be improved.

- Screensize. Yes, the size of the N7 makes it easy to be held with one hand in portrait mode, but in landscape mode, with the nav bar and status bars taking up a lot of space the screen display has been greatly reduced. It's still great to watch videos though cause all videos are wide-screen nowadays, but for browsing , reading PDFs it's just inconvenient.
[Nexus 7 General] ordivergens:
I am still pretty happy with mine. Aside from the small bits of lag I see when I try to unlock it, it has been pretty decent. Sure beats carrying around my 8 pound laptop when all I really needed it for was to check my colleges course website mostly. I will admit that the new Nexus 7 does look pretty nice, but I think I am going to skip this generation and keep on going with the old one. Maybe a bit more battery life would have been nice, but then I am just nitpicking.
[Nexus 7 General] xdabilly:
It was great at first, but after updating to 4.2, things went south. I haven't update to 4.3, so I won't give up yet...
[Nexus 7 General] mrazndead:
Great device. Blows me away how great it is
[Nexus 7 General] lolcopter:
Crappy speakers
[Nexus 7 General] kEvinErd:
I hate the baseband_xmm kernel wake lock. Previously happening on 4.2.2 both stock ROM and custom ROM. Did a factory reset and updated to stock 4.3 and the baseband xmm kernel wakelock is still happening! Argh.
[Nexus 7 General] lolcopter:
I never had any lag issues previously, but 4.3 has a noticeable performance increase IMO... So yes I'm still happy with the og n7
[Nexus 7 General] Nbsss:
After buying the new n7, I can tell u this: u won't feel the lag unless u experience another device like the n4 or nn7, then its noticeable ...
[Nexus 7 General] bambam1978:
+1 great device
[Nexus 7 General] iresq:
I've only had the N7 for a few weeks but I still love it. It was a gift. I don't really have a need for one so I am turning it into a navigation/entertainment center my car (I drive 2.5 - 3k business miles monthly). I think I booted it once before 4.3 and root.
[Nexus 7 General] jfmcbrayer:
According to a developer at Google, they couldn't reproduce this in a clean AOSP build on Google's development branch (this was shortly before the 4.3 release). So it may be the case that an close-to-AOSP 4.3 ROM won't show this issue. If you try it, let me know how it goes.
[Nexus 7 General] Tatanko:
I've had mine since February of this year and I still really enjoy using it. It came with 4.2.1, and I mostly ran CM 10.1 on it until recently. Now I'm running an unofficial build of CM 10.2 and love it more than ever. I will be upgrading to the new model eventually just for the screen, but until then I'm perfectly content with what I have. It's such a solid little tablet!
[Nexus 7 General] xateeq:
YES
[Nexus 7 General] aindow:
I love my Nexus7. It seems to get attention at work from colleagues and they can't believe it cost only £200 (16gb).

For me, I love the size, wide screen but portable and easy to get comfy with in most positions, shame I can't say that about my iPad.

I've definitely no regrets on buying this one.

Rik.
[Nexus 7 General] vboyz103:
Never been happier, I use my N7 more and more everyday now to replace my ipad 3, yes iPad 3...
[Nexus 7 General] SpYFoXZeRo:
My first tablet and was wanting to buy one. Was really lucky that the nexus 7 came out at the perfect time. Loving it!!! :D
[Nexus 7 General] JD914:
Don't think about it, just get it. The nexus 7 is by far the best $150 I have ever spent. I'm absolutely happy with it and no regrets.
[Nexus 7 General] kojaraty:
Then why are you typing this on the iPad 3 :D:p
[Nexus 7 General] compumasta:
So since everyone seems to be pumping this device up, I figured that I will share the biggest drawback to this tablet. The battery does not last forever. When you literally cant put it down for any length of time, you will wish it did. ;)
[Nexus 7 General] AndroidKills:
Am I? Of course. I'm glad I purchased this, I've previously had the iPad2 and I gotta admit its nothing that special. The nexus 7 is the perfect size and super fast. Though mine came with the screen defect ( a little bit up on the bezzel) its not a big deal.

I carry it with me everywhere. The battery life is long and can go on a whole day of heavy use. And like everyone mine was dying very quickly when I first got it because its impossible to try and put this down once you have it.

I definitely recommend getting this!
[Nexus 7 General] JMQUINT00:
Just got my nexus 7 today. I ordered the 8g one buy that's OK it will be enough for what I'm going to use it for. I love the keyboard, this thing is awesome.
[Nexus 7 General] plambda:
Prepare to get addicted.
[Nexus 7 General] Tripsyk:
Still love it. I use it for all of my Internet browsing and media.
[Nexus 7 General] paranoid android85:
can't wait to get mine. should be arriving this thursday. im just hoping i dont have a defected one like ive been reading about
[Nexus 7 General] davedw:
does anyone know when the nexus 7 is available in europe? can't wait to order one....
[Nexus 7 General] spdecoste:
I've had my tablet for two weeks now and I love it as much as the first day.

stock rom with trinity kernel and the other one with OC'ed gpu.

the nexus 7 made me switch from iOS to Android, but now I realize I prefer Android for my tablet and iOS for my phone. Everything is awesome with Android except the Phone/SMS part... personally
[Nexus 7 General] Luxferro:
After I fixed my screen popping up on the left side, I'm now fully happy with it :o
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
Really? Then you are the only one. A5x performance is unmatched and on top of the games looks stunning on retina screen.
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
I am trying my best to keep on loving it although it is giving me really hard time on many fronts but I want android to prosper so I am continuing the support. I would have been more happy if Samsung or Motorola has made it and there won't be quality issues.

I love the form factor though and I knew I am gonna like it as I also have kindle and I liked the form factor although as tablet kindle is pathetic. I don't use my iPad 3 not that often because of this Nexus 7. Yesterday I once again made comparison of the two and took photos as well.
[Nexus 7 General] player911:
I killed mine last night and since staples doesn't have any more 16gb models I opted for a refund and bought one through the play store. I came from a 10" transformer and I really like the portability of it. I feel like I take it more places now.

I have been using it more for stuff I typically did on my phone, which extends my battery for when I need to use my phone as a phone.

Its a nice tablet and its popular for a reason. Also since its a nexus you'll also get several new upgrades as they roll out. Asus has always been good at updates though, but these come from Google.

So I can only recommend a Asus Transformer 300T or a 7" N7. N7 wins in price but screen size can go either way. I travel more so its easier to use the N7 but I miss the big screen for remote desktops and HDMI out.
[Nexus 7 General] Ahmazin:
It's late, but I had to tell someone how cool the Nexus 7 is. I was sitting on the sofa, watching the newly released DVD of the lorax in 1080p (I know it can't display 1080p, but it sure can play it) in Super Video, while browsing the internet on floating browser (that's the name of the app), when a email came in. I didn't think twice about pulling down the notifications to check the sender (I have a YouTube channel and like to give timely replies).

At that moment, I realized how cool it was that I could be doing so much on a $200, 7" device! So here I am on XDA at nearly 3am to post some screen shots. I love the Nexus 7! Easily the best tablet, I've ever had!!!

P.S. Pasted this message from HoverNote... Now I just have to find a reason to use air calculator right now, lol. Nexus 7 is BEAST! And much love to the developers of these great apps.
[Nexus 7 General] twistedh:
I've had it for less than a week now - it's awesome :D I love the form factor - i picked up my 10" galaxy tab today and it felt like I was holding a brick, it feels huge!

I can spend hours just browsing flipboard and currents on the nexus, its so snappy - and I love jelly bean! I have it mostly for reading news and browsing, so the kindle app and moon reader are my most used.

I feel bad for my one x, as I barely touch it now unless I get a call or sms. I am very happy with my nexus 7 :D:D
[Nexus 7 General] jeromepearce:
Loving it still ....

I've had mine a week and a half, and I'm still loving it. I use mine for games mostly, and email occasionally.

Why it is good for me:

Price

Fast (faster than my GNote)

Big enough for games but not quite too big to go in a pocket

Price

Saves my battery on my GNote - now almost solely used as a phone and work apps

Not too heavy

Good battery life - 6 to 7 hours of 'real' full-on use is a peach

Did I mention price?

Why not:

It's 'another' device

I really don't take it everywhere (but my GNote is a good substitute)

lack of extendible storage - that reduces it's value to me as I would keep all my music on it

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Oh yeah: And reading books! It is perfect in size, weight and readability. The Kindle app annoys me because the text does not reach the screen edge, but that is just software and I hope it will be fixed.
[Nexus 7 General] samueljohanson:
Did you super glue it your hand??? http://xdaforums.com/images/smilies/silly.gif http://xdaforums.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
[Nexus 7 General] squbel:
Very happy. Can't seem to be able to put it down. Nearly 2 weeks since pickup.
[Nexus 7 General] micks_address:
Causes trouble in my house to... my wife is like.. put the damn thing down! of course she says this while she is on her iphone 4s on facebook...

really like the nexus 7, only have it since last friday but so far so good.. really like watching videos on it, listening to music is ok (if you have an app like poweramp where you can play with the equaliser) browsing the web is much easier than my galaxy nexus and i'm impressed with the extra screen size. I didnt think it would make much difference but it does.

my 5 year old daughter keeps asking me can i play with your 'giant phone'
[Nexus 7 General] jojo4747:
The best device I have ever owned.
[Nexus 7 General] blahblahyoutoo:
i was seeing if anyone would notice and comment on my fake sig. i'm not even sure tapatalk calls it ipad 3 or 'the new ipad'.

grats! you win!

:laugh:
[Nexus 7 General] kelldawg87:
I absolutely love mine. I haven't touched my transformer since I got it
[Nexus 7 General] ralexand:
After 40 hours, I have to say I am disappointed and will likely be exchanging it in hopes that my problems are fixed.

I really only have two problems, but they are so important that without them functioning properly the device loses most of its value for me.

Google Now -- I seem to be the only person in the world with this problem (based on searches) but Google Now just doesn't work for me. I cannot open links from the search results in Google Now - it does not open that link in Chrome. The worst part is it works the first 3-4 times after rebooting the device, so I know it's not completely broken. But after that 4th time of trying to click a search result, I just get nothing. The blue link gets highlighted, but Chrome never opens.

Wifi Signal -- I have had many wireless devices in my house; none with a signal as flaky as the Nexus 7 I received. If I rest it on a table in my kitchen the signal cuts out completely. If I am in my bedroom, I get about 500 KB down; but UP doesn't even work (by comparison, my phone would get 2000 KB down&up).

Between these two issues, I cannot see myself keeping this particular device. I will probably return it soon and get a new one. I really do enjoy it when it works. I have a 10" tablet, and the 7" form factor is much more comfortable to use.
[Nexus 7 General] toker_X1:
One week with the Nexus 7 and my 10" HP tablet has not even been turned on.

Mainly used for Web, email and watching TV eps.

Installed Citrix Receiver I can now connect to work.

My HP and Samsung printers / scanners works too!

PROS

* Quad core Tegra3

* IPS HD screen (despite reports I'd had no issues with my screen, yes color calibration is not perfect but is acceptable I am not planning to running Photoshop on my tablet)

* Price

* Android 4.1 JB

CONS

No SD card slot

No Front Camera

Waiting for...

Hardware:

Asus Dock for Nexus 7

Noreve Leather Case

Software:

CM10 official - will stay will Google stock ROM for now.

XBMC
[Nexus 7 General] psmith79:
I am extremely happy with my Nexus 7. It is so much more comfortable to hold than my iPad 3. It does what I want it to and it was half the price. Love it.
[Nexus 7 General] mario24601:
Haha :)
[Nexus 7 General] Reeonimus:
I bought the original Asus Transformer when that came out because of the dock and extra ports. I used it a bit but being the size of a netbook when docked it just didn't feel mobile enough.

I love the 7" form factor, I think it's a perfect size. I read my books on it when on public transit, games are great, comics are great. The lack of sd slot so far hasn't bothered me, my music is on google music.

Love it.
[Nexus 7 General] V3RT3X:
An excellent choice!

As others have mentioned, the Tegra 3 with Jelly Bean really shows you what Android is capable of. Although it lacks some features, no SD slot etc., it's a solid tablet at a great price! I've had mine for about 2 weeks and it is certainly the best Android experience I have had in a long time! Flash it with a good ROM and away you go! :good:
[Nexus 7 General] Nospin:
Love it. Period. Perfect form factor and great quality.
[Nexus 7 General] subrar08:
Yes because, the build quality is superb, everything is super smooth, the touch screen is very responsive, gaming works very well, the screen is very sharp, etc. Overall it's a very well built tablet and is a lot of fun to use.

I'm writing this from my Nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 General] suchavibrantthang:
it's the best. been using it every night to catch up on olympic medals, videos, etc. with no problems.