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[Nexus 7 General] Shawn_230:
I sold my Nexus 7 16GB after three weeks. Is it a good tablet for $200? Absolutley, but we're not all on a tight budget, and the Nexus 7 is far from the best.

More than anything I couldn't get over how crappy the display looks, not bright enough but more importantly seriously washed out colour reproduction. Everytime I put the Nexus 7 next to my Galaxy Nexus, the Nexus 7 looked like it was one of those store dummies with a sticker where the display is supposed to be. I know the Galaxy Nexus has a Super AMOLED display so it's not a fair comparison, but I have an IPS iPad, an IPS Asus monitor, a laptop that is probably just TN... they all make the Nexus 7 screen look like an embarrassment.

My other main issue is the 7" size, when the Nexus 7 came out many people were almost surprised by how much they liked the size and fit of a 7" device... this seemed like something I would like too but in the end I can unequivocally say for my uses I much prefer a 10" tablet. My phone is already 4.6", next phone probably even a bit larger... so a 7" is barely that much better in my mind, whereas a 10" is a completley different beast in my opinion. Plus my tablet use is mostly at home in bed or on the couch, so I'd rather have a bigger screen than greater pocketability.

There's other issues too... the Nexus 7 feels like it costs more than $200 but it still doesn't feel entirely premium. It could be a bit thinner and lighter. The bezel is thick, Google says it makes it easier to hold but also makes it look like it's two years old. Battery life is good but still not comparable to my WiFi iPad 2, the iPad can stay on standby for weeks and not lose any juice whereas I left my Nexus 7 for a week and the battery was half gone. I know this is some rogue app on Android eating up my juice, but I have plenty of 'rogue' stuff on the iPad too.

The final straw for me was this scare I had a week ago. My Nexus was below 5% battery life remaining, before I had a chance to plug it in the Nexus died and proceeded into this weird boot loop where it would restart and show the Google logo, then show a flickering black screen for a bit before dying again. I got super paranoid since I thought the unit had died with all my Google stuff on there... the unit seemed totally dead but I somehow managed to flash a stock image to at least un-root and remove my personal info. Not sure if this is the weird way in which the Nexus 7 acts when it has no battery left, but I think it was definitely related since the problem went away when I left it on the charger overnight.

Anyway, if I didn't have a tablet already I probably would have kept the Nexus 7. If you aren't too tight on money or have already bought into the usefulness of a tablet, I really don't see all the appeal of the Nexus 7. I definitely think the tech media were so tired of junky Android tablets for a year and a half that when a good Android tablet was released they all went ape.
[Nexus 7 General] hellanwell:
Well I am really pleased with the whole experience. I think some have had some issues with early units but I have had zero issues. The biggest problem is finding stuff I think I need in terms of apps but not because the lack of choice but the choice can be overwhelming. That's going to be a perception not all will agree with. At the price and availability its a massive hit for Google and Asus.

Ian
[Nexus 7 General] sjankis630:
I still like mine for the price and I also like Jellybean. I did have some buyers remorse over this weekend. I was typing notes into my Nexus 7 at the library in portrait mode and got frustrated. It has been a dream when typing short e-mail replies and the like, but this time i was trying to take some extensive notes (in portrait mode) and I discovered something that I had not previously seen before.

While trying to type real paragraphs I noticed that sometimes the letters were not clicking for me and I was left repeatedly hitting the letters over again to get them to register. This seemed to happen on the "t", "i" and the "f" for me for some reason. It got so frustrating that I whipped out my Galaxy Nexus and redid the post and finished it in a fraction of the time I spent re-hitting the keys on my Nexus 7. The touch response on my phone seems to be much better than on the Nexus 7 for some reason.

I will have to give it another try in the future.
[Nexus 7 General] NicholasQ:
Thanks for your post. I found it decently informative and I think I would share some of the same concerns as you do. But is the screen really that bad? I am waiting on my paypal debit card to come in the mail and I was going to buy a nexus 7 with it but with all the reading I'm doing, it doesn't seem like I'd be totally happy with the nexus 7. I hate that it doesn't have expandable storage. I'm sick of google stripping nexus devices of expandable storage, and I feel I'm voting against their decisions by not purchasing their product so I don't know if I should give in or not. I also don't like how the nexus 7 is highly promoted as ultra portable yet is stuck to wifi only.

It's just my opinion, but I think google should have thrown the $200 price point out and built a tablet with all the top features (better cameras, mobile data, expandable storage, better processor, more memory). They seem to be cutting corners with some reasonably important aspects in their nexus devices. It's starting to annoy me. I really hope they don't skimp out on important things in the next nexus phone. I already skipped the galaxy nexus because it was a big disappointment to me.
[Nexus 7 General] sjankis630:
Thanks for your opinion. i am guessing that already having an Ipad tablet at that size you were curious at what a 7" form factor was going to be like. Obviously it was too small and you opted to keep your Ipad

I have never had my Nexus 7 go into a crazy boot sequence when it is about to run out of battery power, it simply shuts down automatically until i recharge it. I noticed that you had rooted your device. Do you think that your rooting (and presumably updating your device) had something to do with what might have happened with the charging issue?

I chose not to root my Galaxy Nexus and I am on the fence with my Nexus 7 so far as I am worried about voiding my warranty, yours is the first story I have heard about a Nexus 7 just dying on them after it originally worked. Interesting....

Are you capable of rooting the Ipad?
[Nexus 7 General] jh1521:
Do you mind if I ask what specifically is better on the N7 as compared to the NC?

The reason I'm asking is: I have a NC myself, running CM7 ATM. I've been contemplating getting a N7, but am still looking at a way to justify it to myself. The NC/CM7 does pretty much everything I want it to (browse, watch Netflix, play old games in DosBox and ScummVM, use a few apps related to my work). So far can't justify a new purchase too well - hoping to hear arguments back though. :)
[Nexus 7 General] dancerock:
just not treat 7 like a ipad , then you will be satisfied:highfive:
[Nexus 7 General] Angst:
If you would have said to anybody 2 months ago that you were going to buy a quad core anything with a 12 core GPU for £200 they would have called you mad. Much less a tablet computer, Google are making the right moves but in the wrong way.

The whole market has had a kick in the teeth, this is a low priced, premium device that performs well, most people are happy with the device itself, but Googles support is crap, which is the reason for most peoples problems. The first device I perchased the screen cracked after 1 day, so I really didnt get a chance originally to test out the device, even though within an hour of getting it home it was rooted !!!.

The tablet market now has a decent standard to meet, which is what I believe Google were setting out to do, this tablet will end up in the hands of many people who previously wouldnt even look at anything but an iPad or a Kindle.

RED OR BLUE YOU CHOOSE !!!
[Nexus 7 General] kxxstarr:
would REALLY like to hear why you say the Touchpad sucks?
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
Why this thread is becoming more a comparison of iPad 3 and Nexus 7? If you like Nexus 7 then keep it otherwise return it. I have both iPad 3 and Nexus 7 and I love both. Comparing nexus 7 with iPad 3 can be a good time pass but in reality they are not meant to be compared. In 10 inch nothing is better than iPad 3 ATM and in 7 inch nothing is better ATM. When iPad mini would be out then the comparison between iPad mini and Nexus 7 would make much more sense. Right now iPad 3 and Nexus 7 comparison is useless. If people still want to compare the two then better do it in threads already opened for this purpose. This thread is not a comparison thread rather it is about your experience with Nexus 7. Happy keep it and if not happy return it and move on to something better suited for you.
[Nexus 7 General] woshiweili:
I had my Nexus 7 for almost a month now and I've loved it more everyday :D

I also bought an iPad 3 when it first came and I have to say while the Nexus 7 may not have as large or good of a screen, I haven't felt the urge to use the iPad since I got my Nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 General] Brandonxcore:
I'm not going to lie, I like it, but it's missing too much, I have the 8gb and it's filled with nothing but apps, I cannot install another app, it's missing a rear camera, micro sd slot, and better speakers, im trading mine for a xoom, Ill wait till they come out with a tablet that is as cheap, with a tegra 3, but has a camera, and expandable memory, and better speakers. I use the camera on a tablet, and put more movies on a tablet than I use the tegra 3's performance.
[Nexus 7 General] shadowmonkey1974:
Common sense would have suggested never getting 8 Gig version. Rear camera? Who cares nothing says I'm more of a twat taking a PIC with tablet,get a proper camera.Expandable memory not a prob if you root and stick mount.Or splash out on a WiFi drive.Better Speakers? Do I really have to comment on that?The speakers are fine ,

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BTW Nexus isn't an iPad so blah

Blah the screen isn't as good winge For gods sake how much is the nexus? I develop for iPad and everyone of my work colleagues agree this tablet is amazing for its price.

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Im having mine implanted on me lol
[Nexus 7 General] NicholasQ:
And it's my prediction that the ipad mini will be superior to the nexus 7. It's probably going to have a better processor, screen, gpu, possibly even rear camera. Don't get me wrong, I am android all the way. But google lately has been pushing out disappointing specs in their nexus devices.
[Nexus 7 General] rockky:
The Nexus 7 (recieved on day1) equals my high expectation of it in all but one dept and thats the screen/color display.

MAJOR let down. I believe the engineer who stated that there was a manufacturing miscalibration .

I have my first replacement coming and hope that it's batch might have addressed it.

And dont say how fantastic YOUR screen resolution is....cause if u do?...U dont know the difference.

I DO. So does Google and Asus as they undoubtedly cringe using this.

I
[Nexus 7 General] DrownedElf:
Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but I'm betting the only things it'll have better is a better screen, rear camera, and maybe a 32gb option. I'd bet that it'll be near twice the cost as well, which is always something to consider.

That being said, I've loved my nexus 7 and use it far more than I thought I would. I got one without any problems (lucky me!). While sometimes I'd prefer a 10" tablet, I think the 7" is a lot more portable and would get more use from me.
[Nexus 7 General] po96od:
Much as I hate to admit it - because I absolutely do prefer Android over iOS on a wide variety of levels - the fact that I'm currently preparing to return my third (!) defective Nexus 7 in a row has me seriously considering biting the bullet and grabbing the iPad mini (assuming it's real) next month, and maybe coming back to Android sometime next year when Google has hopefully had time to get their act a little more together.
[Nexus 7 General] shadowmonkey1974:
Can't blame people for not being convinced about Nexus If they have returned multiple tablets.I would be jaded by the whole thing. Still of like myself if you haven't had a problem you have to wonder if some people are expecting for to high for what it is.
[Nexus 7 General] r0zj0k3r:
I still like mine and use it every day.

BUT.....

Things that really annoy me:

1. There are so many quality control issues.

2. Google/asus support is retarded, for 15 days you deal with Google then asus. This really ruins and confuses end user experiences.

3. The many faults with android and android development (still would rather us it than ios though)

4. Battery life FTW? I'll show you how horribly my battery faired today.

25% after 4 hours of web browsing is horrible, especially when promised was 10 hours.

There is a lot to like about this tablet, though and I'll be hanging on to mine for a while.
[Nexus 7 General] James-NC:
Love mine.It is just great and I use it daily.As far as the lack of things like sd slot and camera ect..well I knew that before I bought it so no surprises.I feel like I got more than my moneys worth with the nexus7.While my screen display might not fit the perfect profile it looks fine for most things and is great for what is important to me like watching movies and looking at photos.

I have had multiple monitors and such and no two have ever looked exactly alike no matter how much you tweaked things.The nexus7 is just fine like it is.I rooted mine and have unlimited storage via stick drives for all the things I can possible ever need or want on the tablet.I can plug in a usb cord from my game cams and down load pictures instead of carrying a laptop in the woods with me.If i want to watch an episode of Breaking Bad or catch a movie,read a book ect even while sitting in a deerstand the Nexus is there.

Yeah..still like mine and like it even more each day I use it. :highfive:
[Nexus 7 General] phantomrenegade:
well i got 7 hrs and 45 mins on mine, lowest screen brightness (which is more then adequate indoors) wifi and bluetooth on, played modern combat 3 with my ps3 controller, for 2 hrs and 45 mins, then watched youtube vids 5 hrs. had like 2% battery left before i put it in to the charger and went to bed.
[Nexus 7 General] nateg20:
Using the nexus 7 for a month has convinced me to hold off on buying a s3, and wait for the new iphone. I've had an HTC evo (rooted) for over 2 years. I use the nexus a lot, but feel pretty blah about the product. Still a lot left to be desired. I find myself still having to use my laptop to do quite a few things on the web, even though I have 3 browsers on the nexus. Stupid stuff like webpage menus not working right and poor copy/paste select. Its super fast when fresh, but has glitches and slowdowns after its gone though about a battery. Its the first android device I feel as if though I have to reboot just to keep it fast. The screen has to be at an angle or it wigs out (multi touch issue). I've seen lots of flickers, loss of sound. Misc bugs. I have pathetic slow internet at my house, so space is a premium. Only 16gb? Really? So I have no where to keep media, just programs. Play store is getting to be as restrictive as iTunes store. I was super anxious to get this thing, but I'm not so excited about the future of android at this point. Bottom line, I feel like I got what I paid for.
[Nexus 7 General] Verixx:
Don't actually think it sucks. Just think the user experience on the N7 and iPad is better. Almost entirely due to hardware performance. If you've got CM loaded, all the features are there, though. Remember, I did say comparatively :)

The comparison isn't useless because the iPad 3 and the N7 are two of the best tablets out, and most people aren't going to carry two tablets - they will choose one. For me, it was actually down to a comparison between the iPad and the Nexus - so my existence proves your statements incorrect.

Indeed, the iPad mini and N7 would be a more appropriate comparison, if it existed. But it doesn't yet.
[Nexus 7 General] e.mote:
>The comparison isn't useless because the iPad 3 and the N7 are two of the best tablets out, and most people aren't going to carry two tablets - they will choose one...Indeed, the iPad mini and N7 would be a more appropriate comparison, if it existed. But it doesn't yet.

The iPad-vs-N7 tiff will be short-lived, as by all indications, iPad mini will be with us soon. As well is the Amazon KF2 which may have multiple models. Lastly, Surface RT will also be in play if the $199 rumor proves true. "Versus" fans will have plenty of material to wax about in the coming weeks.

I disagree that people will choose just one tablet, especially when such tabs have different sizes, and therefore different uses. As tabs become more popular and cheaper, multiple-tab use should be common, for the same reason that many of us use multiple PC screens.

Lastly, I disagree with your finding of "utility" is what makes a 7" better than a 10". My observation is that it depends on duration of use. For short uses, people tend to hold the tablet in hand, hence hand fatigue is a factor, and a 7-inch's smaller size/weight makes it better than a 10. For long uses, people would rest the tab on a supporting surface (desk or lap), obviating hand fatigue, and a 10's larger display wins out. Think of it as hand fatigue vs eye fatigue.
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
I have 3 tabs at the moment and many others on this forum have multiple tablets so this point of single tab is not valid. Also my point was that this thread is regarding "are you happy with your nexus 7" and it was not a comparison thread between iPad 3 and nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 General] jetsillinifan:
Absolutely love it just fix the screen life, a little shakeup first go but ultimately Google is the good guy getting u something for wit u paid for and the next Gen will be even better
[Nexus 7 General] tektools:
Actually I am highly disappointed at the lack of apps. IOS is the standard right now and droid is still very fringey. Even within android, much of the apps I want are not supported by this device. To make things worse, being outside the us, there is almost no support or accessories.. Countless apps,web services, and features are "not available outside the US". Whereas any local corner store is filled with iPad accessories and the store.

Even within droid, much of the apps I want are, 'not compatible with this device'

The actual device, however, is amazing.

Nexus 7 16gb, unlocked, rooted, stick drive, trinity 7 kernel, stock OS.
[Nexus 7 General] shadowmonkey1974:
Stick with Apple then if your not happy
[Nexus 7 General] lehons:
Dude, the thing cost $200. You're gonna wait till they come out with a tablet that's just as cheap but has all the extra features of a premium tablet? Good luck. Let me know when that happens.
[Nexus 7 General] Dorkington:
It's laggy, and I haven't found a browser I'm completely happy with.

BUT

I absolutely love the thing overall so far. I'm hoping more developers get on the ball and support the device. Seems some of the big game developers (*cough*EA*cough*) don't care about one of the most popular Android devices. The size, weight and speed (when not lagging) are great. Battery life is pretty good (9/10 of an iPad's). Screen is wonderful. Overall I'm happy, but I'm hoping some things get updated to smooth out the experience. :)
[Motorola Photon 4G] xopher.hunter:
Mobile IP registration error 67

OK heres my situation. Last night right before work I flashed jokers jb cm10 rom over a factory reset of cm7 and all was good, except google play kept trying to download random things in my pocket and heating up while I worked. As a reflex I turned on airplane mode to cool it down and save battery. And just like that I had absolutely no data whatsoever. I tried reflshing cm10. Nothing. I tried the data fix. Nothing. I flashed peetrs v4, twice. Nothing. I had to wait my whole shift to get home to sbf this thing to new. I went on the compendium and downloaded 1FF-sunfire-user-2.3.4-4.5.1A-1_SUN_198_7-CM-release-keys-signed-Sprint-US.zip. I installed the drivers unzipped the sbf and opened rsd-lite and waited for it to connect. When I flashed it everything went smoothly until it said manually power on the device. It did not boot for 5 mins. I then went on a stupid flashing frenzy. I flashed derpunlock then I flashed the 198_7 radio and it wouldnt boot. In my final act of noobishness I flashed peetrs unlocktwrp sbf . Now it will instantly power off when I boot it with vol- and if I boot it with usb attached it will go into rsd mode. This rsd mode is semu functional. It begins to flash but gets gets stuck on switching modes (i can manually switch by doing a battery pull) and bp passthrough is stuck on 0. I can get into fastboot if I hold volume+ while booting. Any help is greatly appreciated (unless it involves permalocking my bootloader).
[Motorola Photon 4G] peetr_:
Hmm, I am trying to understand your situation, but it's not easy.

Did you wipe data after flashing full 198_7 sbf?

This all thing after that full sbf flashing, looks to me more like some usb problem or what? Did you try different computer?

Do you have failed to boot 3 now?

If you flashed that unlock sbf with twrp, you should go directly in recovery and wipe data and you can try to flash some other rom.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xopher.hunter:
I was unable to boot after 198_7 so I was not able to wipe data. I tried different usb ports, does the same thing. It says failed to boot 3 now. How do I get into recovery as the menu at boot is not available (screen shuts off as I try to scroll through the options) fastboot and rsd kinda work.
[Motorola Photon 4G] peetr_:
So try to flash full 198_7 sbf and write me, how it goes.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xopher.hunter:
1st screen

SVF : 108:1:2

Failed to boot 3

Starting RSD mode

Flashing now

Now says

SVF : 108:1:2

Failed to boot 3

Starting RSD mode

SVF : 106:1:2

sec_exception: b655, exec, eb

I then powered it off to save battery as im sure its not charging

I saw this posthttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=29585149 in another similar thread, how do I use fastboot to flash jokers v4 recovery?
[Motorola Photon 4G] peetr_:
Hmm, why failed to boot 3?

Could you try to decompile 198_7 sbf with sbf codec and try to flash stock recovery (CG58) with fastboot? Do not unlock yet.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xopher.hunter:
I do not know how to flash with fastboot. I have to go to work all night so I cannot try until tomorrow. Thank you for all your help thus far.
[Motorola Photon 4G] peetr_:
Ok. When you will have some time, try to get familiar with the fastboot and decompiling sbf. There are some readings over here. Could you? Everything will be much easier to test then.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xopher.hunter:
Ok I was finally able to decompile the sbf and I succesfully flashed the stock recovery
[Motorola Photon 4G] peetr_:
Good. Really.

And what's the status of your phone?
[Motorola Photon 4G] xopher.hunter:
same as before still not booting, the fastboot cmd message said

sending 'recovery' (8192 KB)... OKAY ( 1.126s )

writing 'recovery' ... OKAY ( 0.954s )

so I assumed it was successful.
[Motorola Photon 4G] peetr_:
Yes it most probably was successful.

Are you absolutely sure, that you didn't flash any sv2 file?

Try to flash boot.img from the decompiled sbf.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xopher.hunter:
I just looked in my downloads folder and to my horror I see 2.3.5sv2_198_7_radio.sbf

Would that have permalocked my bootloader?
[Motorola Photon 4G] peetr_:
Hmm, why am I writing that big red warning there?!

Yes. Your bootloader is permanently locked!

Oh, oh, oh.

No problem to unbrick that, but it's locked.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xopher.hunter:
damn, all i wanted was to flash the radio. in my haste i must have ignored the warning assuming radios had nothing to do with bootloaders. Im gonna miss your hybrid rom

Oh well, this is why I have a Nexus 7.

should i follow this guide?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1797787