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[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
I use whatever hboot I need for the ROM that I'm currently booting, which for my CDMA Evo 3D is the JBear 1.58.5858 version for the newer Sense ROM's and the engineering (ENG) 1.04 version for everything else. That's one of the problems with trying to run Boot Manager (Pro) with current CDMA ROM's.

Like I said already, I don't want to have to restore a nandroid of the original ROM when I need to do maintenance, then recreate all the changes I made since my last nandroid backup. Boot Manager was designed to run the installation scripts in the META folder of .zip files, but IMO it doesn't do that reliably anymore.

As far as performance goes, I've never had a problem with the native (phone) ROM since Boot Manager doesn't really affect that, but performance scores have always been degraded when running the ROM's in the slot. I have a 32GB class 6 Sandisk card, and my understanding is that Android doesn't benefit a whole lot from anything faster than that and Sandisk rates their cards pretty conservatively anyway.

If it works for you that's great, but it seems to me that the OP of this thread makes Boot Manager (Pro) look better than it actually is at this point, and I'm just trying to help other users understand that before they spend too much time on it or get frustrated with what is required to keep things working on an ongoing basis.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] Mr.Krulez:
gav-collins1983 where i can find jb miui?

Thanks

p.s. i don't know if i'm stupid or something but i can't even dual boot the leedroid rom from the nandroid backup... where i failed?

Edit i don't know why but now i am capable of dual booting ... i think the firmware in the cm10 thread helped me out
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
Sorry I've not been on for a while,

The jb miui Rom was in post one of the miui thread just underneath the ica version , il yet find it and link it here (found it) http://db.tt/lOsE5RR4
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
Team Init2winit is now going to update Boot Manager. I can't say for sure when, but they have said on their Twitter page that they're working on jellybean support along with other phones. So the no charging issue on jellybean SD card ROMs will no longer exist. Thanks for promoting this app guys. At least we have some followers still. It's been an issue for even me since I'm on their IRC channel where literally no one comes in anymore. If you guys want to join, it's #init2winitapps on Freenode. Help would be appreciated. I'm not one of the devs, but I'm an admin on their forums so I can help you. Anyways... here's to hoping they update it soon, eh?
[HTC EVO 3D] binher835:
Folks, I had a serious problem after installed the boot manager lite, the phone in bootloop after restart, then I flashed back to the NANO, it seems works fine though.

But I can not update any application now, the phone stick in bootloop whennever I updated a application, what's the matter?
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
When you try to update an app, it reboots and bootloops? Try something like reflashing the rom itself without wiping and/or fixing permissions. It *should* fix it.
[HTC EVO 3D] binher835:
The phone won't restart after applicaiton update by itself. I restarted the phone after it to see if the phone works normally, tried to fix permission..., but still stick in bootloop. I guess the boot manager lite locked any file, so there's no chance to recovery even by NAND, have to reinstalled again the whole system...
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
Which recovery are you using ? What hboot are you on ?
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
How many Roms have you managed to boot successfully, @ everyone
[HTC EVO 3D] binher835:
HTC EVO 3D, HBOOT-1.53.0006, stock ROM, RADIO-11.25.3504.06_M, 4EXT V1.0.0.5 RC3
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
Im assuming your stock Rom is rooted, so that can't be the issue, did you ensure bootmanager setup the phone Rom, before installing or booting to a second Rom ? Have you tried flashing the update.zip from onside bootmanager/phone Rom/ folder, from.onside recovery ? If that fails, try downgrading your hboot and trying again
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
I have successfully done about 5 roms, but only one at a time since I only have the light version.
[HTC EVO 3D] fitusv:
I'm succefully booting 4 rooms plus my phone room
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
As soon as my 64gb card arrives I'm going to try and boot every Rom available for EVO 3d, I'm looking at about 13 Roms successfully booting. But possibly 2 more if I can figure out how to make miui ics and cm10 boot from a slot Rom , fingers crossed lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Snoob25:
have you tried to change kernel?? for miui use flashimagegui, then install from backup! i'd like to try this on my own but i'm finishing first charging cycles on my new anker battery, so i'm sticking on the same rom for few days :)

and i got cm10 0.2.2 (last rev) working, it was with anthrax kernel and obviously install from backup! but there was an issue with the charge indicator, it was sticking at 66% :(
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
I'm quite sure the 66% was a bug, even when using is as a main Rom, are you sure that isn't a rom issue , and about flash image GUI, only use that for the booted main phone Rom, when in the booted phone Rom, if you want to flash custom aroma kernels then you will need to restore them to phone Rom, install.there, back up, then reinstall back through bootmanager
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
The 66% bug is part of the app's incompatibility with jelly bean. And they could be working on Aroma support as well. I suggested it, so we will see how it goes
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Thanks for the feedback. I'll be looking forward to the update.

There's a big difference between booting a ROM and using it for a daily driver, but maybe that's expecting too much.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
Can someone confirm is this work with S-ON 4EXT Recovey smartflash?
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
I can successfully boot between 4+ roms suitable as a daily drive

? This app is fantastic, I'd tour prepeares to put the effort in

I'm sorry, I can't guarantee that for you, I'm s-off,, but your here on xda, take a risk ! Give it a shot, just follow the instructions , and you will always have restoration points
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
LensFlares new Miui JB rom doesn't work properly on boot manager for me :(

no service and 66% bug, shame, because apart from that it flys on boot manager
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
You must be S-OFF for this to work. It's one of the requirements

Any JB ROM you use as an sdcard ROM will not charge, have service and will read the battery at 66%. Until they fix the app, it will stay this way.
[HTC EVO 3D] R3NC0N:
BiParanoid is installing reeeaaaally slowly, my phone is very slow as well, and typing is a hell (2 seconds before a letter pops up).

Just waiting patiently though...

Edit:

And now it is just did a hot reboot, and the rom didn't install...

BiParanoid 2.50.1 worked perfectly, 2.50.2 did made my phone reboot...
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
Try closing out apps in the background and not letting your phone time out. Also put it on the charger. If all else fails, backup, wipe, flash, back that one up, restore previous one, then flash the nandroid through boot manager
[HTC EVO 3D] R3NC0N:
Believe me, I tried it 3 times. Once while doing nothing, keeping screen on, and phone on the charger -> failed.

Second time was the same as the first one, I even deleted the entire slot -> failed

Third time I tried it again, only while trying to chat with someone in Whatsapp -> failed.

I managed to install 2.50.1 before, but 2.50.2 won't install...
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
I would upload the log so I can take a look at it. I'll see if I can determine the issue.
[HTC EVO 3D] R3NC0N:
Doesn't matter anymore, I restored a nandroid to my main slot because of other reasons, and now it's working again!
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
I'll keep you guys updated on the progress of the new update. They said somewhat soon on their page, and one of them has an EVO 3D, so we will see what happens. And a bit off topic, SGSIII will most likely work, as will Gnexus
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
Ok now i have hboot 1.53, S-OFF, 4EXT with main rom- stock ics rooted. i want to install this rom on slot 1 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1513054

do i have to flash something especially for this rom (because i have 1.53 hboot) or just normaly install through bootmanager?
[HTC EVO 3D] Bad4ss:
Cool Thread! Should really be a sticky in the development thread.

Anywho, I tried having Cool Rom as my main rom, then tried following the instructions for mwakious rom. After installing, then nandroiding, it was just stuck on the HTC bootscreen.

I know that mwakius does require you to boot once then enable root, then flash the .x update to the rom in order to get full functionality.

So my question is what are the correct steps to correctly have mwakious as the second rom? (I am s-off)

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[HTC EVO 3D] carlos1984:
i installed and it install cerom miui but when i boot it i get a boot loop im on hboot 1.49.008 , do i need to downgraded to 1.49.007?

so i flashed the 1.49.007 and still didnt work ,but i tried installing the roms i wanted to the nand and making nandroid backups and installing the backups and it worked. Justt remenber to make a backup of ur main rom incase something goes rom. I got cerom and coolsics runng ontop of leedroid, awesome app!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
I'm pretty sure you'll be fine so long as you have S-OFF
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
I would yes
[HTC EVO 3D] Bad4ss:
Any answers to this please, as my question is probably missed because it disappeared onto the previous page?

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[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
Install base Rom

Enable root, turn off fast boot, and configure your settings

Reboot

Install update

Reboot

Back up (nand)

Restore other Rom

Setup bootmanager in phone Rom

Then restore nand backup of mwakious to slot Rom
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
i successfully install that rom and now i have only bootloops?

EDIT: Now i cant back to main rom. i install update.zip from sdcard/BootManager/phoneRom but nothing has change.. same bootloops
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
If you have bootloops, then yes, downgrade it.
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
but is there any way to back first my stock rom?
[HTC EVO 3D] viper08:
Working But...........

Ok Hi all.........Ive got Boot Manager Lite working after a little tweeking but I have a few questions / issues........

1. When installing a chosen ROM is it best to to tick all 3 boxes when asked to clear the data on the zip install?

2. Does it slow up for you guys when its states "Extracting Rom"?

3. When installing the gapps is it best to again tick the 3 boxes to clear the data?

4. I install the gapps after installing the rom to slot 1 but when I then boot into the new slot 1 ROM boot manager tells me that Application Is Not Licensed......Do i need to buy pro? is this normal? (my HBOOT is the right version for boot manager to work nicely as suggested by gav-collins and my wifi and google play are working fine......the only issue I seem to have is no DATA via 3g....would this be an issue?? - The only way for me to switch back to my phone rom is to boot to recovery the flash the update.zip from the boot manager/phone directory.

5. This app seems very good.........however the reviews in the app market and some comments in this post suggest no recent support.....I would certainly buy this app if I know its going to be continually developed. (Ill probably just buy it anyways as its seems a great way to test roms.......!!) I did see a few posts about JB support so fingers crossed.

Keep up the good work!
[HTC EVO 3D] Bad4ss:
So I have to install mwakious as base ROM first, then change the base ROM and replace with my initial bar ROM?

Thanked you by the way.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
1. When you're wiping data, you JUST select data. When you're putting a new ROM in the slot, you wipe all three.

2. Yes, because it's a process running in the background.

3. No, you don't select any of the boxes if the ROM has already been installed. If not, then you'd keep all three marked.

4. Make sure you sign in to your Google account. If that doesn't work, then message conap and GFlam.

5. They are working on a new updated as we speak. They're getting SGSIII testers to support that phone, so it will be out soon.
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
can someone tell me how to install any ics with sens 4.0.. i try to install virtual eclipse but every time i got bootloops..

i try to downgrading my hboot, now i have 1.49.0007 with s-off and with virtual eclipse i have same bootloops.

and is there any way to back to stock rom.. trought adb i push my original boot.img but all time only bootloops. pls help
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
IF YOU FLASH RUU

You will lose hboot, root and recovery, download an already converted stock Rom, which already has root

As for flashing sense 4 roms I've not encountered a problem, have you tried setting it up on phone Rom then nand then restore to slot in bootmanager
[HTC EVO 3D] viper08:
Many thanks Sora1995 - I purchased the full app and rebooted into ROM in slot 1 now I can switch back to phone rom. Any reason why any ROM i use in any of the slots that my mobile data connection does not work. Phone calls and text are fine......any tricks to get it working?
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
Tnx for rply. only what i try is:

My main rom is ics stock gsm rooted (i make nand )

installed bootmanager

trought bootmanager i install virtual eclipse zip successfully.

Boot rom 1 and booloops

(after bootloops cant get my main rom stock ics rooted, i try wipe all and install nand, adb push boot.img and still bootloops)

i know that i must relock bootloader then run RUU but is there any other way to back on my main rom after bootloops?

(Sry for bad eng)
[HTC EVO 3D] Snoob25:
just go in recovery and "install from sd" the file /bootmanager/phone/update.zip! this file contains the backup of your phone rom boot.img (if you did "setup phone" the first time you launched bootmanager)
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
Yes i tried this. even with adb i push that boot.img but still bootloops.
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
I had to wipe data once to get rid of boot loops, main htc screen-reboot-main htc screen.

I think this was because i idiotically ran boot manager 'setup' while on an sd slot, restoring an original boot.img from 'phonerom' I had backed up worked once but then i got the boot loops.. wipe data was the only thing that fixed it.

so maybe try, putting know good boot.img in the 'phonerom' folder and then run the phonerom folder update.zip from recovery, clear cache only then try and reboot... leave wipe data until the last resort.
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
Try these steps exactly.

If you have a nand of phone Rom skip step 1 and boot into recovery

Back up phone Rom in recovery

Wipe all partitions (except sd)

Wipe cache/dalvik

Install virtuous

set it up (disable fastboot)

Reboot

Reboot recovery

back up

Wipe all partitions (except sd)

Wipe cache/dalvik

Restore stock ics nand

Boot it

Open bootmanager

Set up phone Rom

Open a file manager and delete all files in slot Rom

Open bootmanager again

Install/restore nand of virtuous

Reboot phone

Open bootmanager

Boot to virtuous
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
Ok ill try to install with this steps. Tnk u man.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
If they are jelly bean ROMs, they will not have mobile data, nor will they charge. The developers are working on the update right now from what I read on Twitter
[HTC EVO 3D] viper08:
That's explains it......all my test roms are jelly bean......thanks again
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Being able to boot a slot ROM does not mean that it is able to be used on the same basis as the phone (native) ROM. I'm sure that you know the difference, but I think a notice should be added to the OP of this thread that booting slot ROM's does not mean all their features will work, at least at this time.

I know when I first saw this thread I thought "great, someone has figured out how to make Jelly Bean ROM's work with Boot Manager", but as I read through the posts it became clear that a successful boot was the primary measure of success.

Just don't want potential users to get too jaded about this product when the developers have finally decided to support it again, and the current ROM's (JB and Sense 4.x) might have most if not all of their features working at some point.

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
Op already updated
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
Tried this way and stuck at white htc screen. I give up with this rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
Hmmmm that's a strange one , il download the Rom tomorrow at work and try to do it on my phone and let you know how I get on
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
How hard is to install viper 3d? Can i try with same metods or i must do something else?
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
No just do what I do and do it on phone Rom, set up, back up , restore original Rom then restore viper in to slot Rom, not forgetting to re set up your phone Rom , before booting into the viper Rom
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
same htc white screen with viper 3d rom. hmm, im doing something wrong.

Is it normal when i try to restore slot 1 rom (viper 3d or virtuos) bootmanager ask me what partition to use ext 2 or ext 4?

(my sd card is 16 gb class 10 without any ext partitions) maybe is here problem?
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
doh.. wrong forum lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
Thought I'd pop in to give an update. They're working on JB, SGSIII and GNexus support, so an update will be out soon. No ETA though. Also, Aroma Installer will NOT be supported. Use a nandroid if you want an Aroma-enabled ROM.
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
Which are you choosing ? There are not many roms which don't support ext4 nowadays, make sure you select ext4, how many installs have you tried ? Try to delete the whole bootnanager folder when booted to a phone Rom, then re configure and try again , did you revert to 1.49.007 hboot ?
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
I have 1.49.0007 hboot. I tried ext 2 and ext 4 every time i get bootloops or white htc screen. i tried to install virtuous 5 times and viper 3d 2 times . Today i will make clean install of main rom and bootmanager with formated sd card.
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
No Need to format sd, just erase the bootmanager folder,go to app settings, clear data and uninstall the app, then reinstall and set up, then restore nandroid, are you making sure fastboot is disabled in phone Rom and slot rom ? As well as enabling USB debugging ?
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
And yeeeees finaaaly...booted to viper 3d. tnx tnx tnx.

Problem is : i was on JuopunutBear hboot 1.53 S-OFF..after using your tutorial here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1906172&page=9 to downgrade hboot to 1.49.0007 my bootloader was ***LOCKED***S-OFF with 4ext recovery and root premision. After using HTCdev to gain unlock again your app then works fine and booted to slot 1 rom

(btw u can make tutorial to show ppl how can make locked bootloader for warranty)

thank u man for your help and for quick rplys
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
There are already guides on how to do that in the development section , thanks for that il remember that as an option in future for others having issues
[HTC EVO 3D] Amel.Spahic:
You are PRO :D..Here's what I got..Because my salary is a little bit late, I haven't bought this app :D..Anyway..My phone ROM is DisarmedToaster, and I wanted to install Mwakious on ROM 1 slot. I tried with normal installation (.zip install) but it didn't work..So, I made Nandroid backup of my DT ROM, then installed Mwakious 15.0, updated on 15.1, then made nandroid again. Booted into recovery, restored DT, then in Bootmanager, I installed Mwakious from Nandroid backup, booted into Mwakious, and I saw that I have Bootmanager apk, and some errors (It's not purchased bla bla)..So, you just have to uninstall Bootmanager there, and grab a new one from PlayStore..

That's it..Btw, installation lasted 1 hour..(something like that)

Thank you, gav-collins1983..
[HTC EVO 3D] s_superman:
I want to boot paranoid android next to mwakious

how can I install gapps?
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
Just install gapps zip after the rom zip, don't check any the 3 wipe boxes.
[HTC EVO 3D] Chadyboy81:
I haven't had any problems with slot roms. Perfect app for happy flashers that like different roms. I recommend titanium back up pro with this

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Set it up on phone rom with gapps make a nandroid, and install>restore nandroid>select the backup you made.

That's the best way, your able to flash the kernel you want and etc.
[HTC EVO 3D] acokovach:
slowly going to insanity...

hello

i have hboot 1.49.007, s-off, i tried i think everything and i cant make it do dual boot, on phone rom i biparanoid JB, i tried to install on rom 1 several rom's, yoda, miui, mwakious, all are ics and nothing , when i choose to install rom on on rom1 , after installing there was message that was succesful and after that nothing, on rom 1 there is still message that slot is empty, if tried to boot to rom 1 bootloop with htc screen, is this ok, how much time should i wait( i waited for about 5 min )...can someone help me, explain me...thanks:confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] Dadovvv:
Did u try with Nandroid backup? is your bootloader Unlocked?
[HTC EVO 3D] acokovach:
bootloader unlocked, what do you mean with nandroid backup?
[HTC EVO 3D] Amel.Spahic:
1. Make backup of your current ROM (in recovery)

2. Install another ROM (one you would like to dual boot)

3. Make backup of that ROM too (in recovery)

4. Wipe everything you can wipe except SD card (in recovery)

5. Restore main/phone/first ROM (in recovery)

6. Install Boot Manager (or Boot Manager Lite)

7. Go to slot ROM 1

8. Install ROM (restore Nandroid)

9. Choose the second ROM you backed up in step 3
[HTC EVO 3D] ricky886:
Can it possible to dual boot with wp8:D
[HTC EVO 3D] acokovach:
thanks for you answer, i tried by your directions:

PhoneROM MIUI 2.10.26

ROM Slot 1 Biparanoid JB

but i keep getting FC messages about systemUI, android.proces etc. better for me stop testing my phone or its gonna be bricked, thanks again for your help.
[HTC EVO 3D] Roca22:
LOL :D

Enviado desde mi HTC EVO 3D X515m usando Tapatalk 2
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
Yeah its possible. But highly complicated If you can port a wp8 Rom over the framework of an android based os
[HTC EVO 3D] alexngchunkiat:
ONE X

OP when will there be a dual booting system ready for the one x?
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
Once conap and GFlam start working on the app again in December, they could start working on it. Message them on Twitter (@init2winitapps) and let them know you want the one x supported.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
Boot Manager Source

Listen up everyone. The devs of Boot Manager are looking for a dev to give the source code to so that person can continue working with the app and port it to other phones. If anyone is interested in taking over, message me on here or conap and GFlam on Twitter (@init2winitapps). If you'd like to see further development, we need someone to take it over.
[HTC EVO 3D] ramjet73:
Have you approached the TWRP team, madmaxx82 of 4EXT and koush of CWM? It would really take someone with a detailed knowledge of recovery and scripting (Edify and Aroma) to do it right.

Also, do you know if they are trying to sell it or are they willing to donate it to the open source community?

ramjet73
[HTC EVO 3D] Sora1995:
I know it doesn't take recovery knowledge, but that's from a user's standpoint. I can get a hold of them and see if they'd be interested, but I don't know if that's something they'd want to do. I believe what conap and GFlam are doing is giving the source to the person who wants to take over. I mentioned making it open source for everyone but then realized that'll make a whole bunch of not-working apps and could brick the phone.