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[Nexus 7 General] YoungAceAtlanta:
I have a iPhone 4s new iPad, Gnex, Nexus 7 and a few other Android devices .. but I'll tell you one thing .. my Apple products hardly get touched ... besides my macbook.. which is my main computer ... I just can't be tied down to just what Apple wants ... Android is open source and has more options for me to control... Cydia is cool .. but I still find those tweaks to not come close to what Android does
[Nexus 7 General] mario24601:
Thanks, good feedback!
[Nexus 7 General] tyrellcorpnexus:
Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.

I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.

That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.

I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).

The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.

And I'm into SLR photography.

4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.

I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.

And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.

the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.

And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.

And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.

And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
[Nexus 7 General] hadsus:
For certain functions my iPad 3 is just too bulky and heavy. I have a rezound and I suppose I got the n7 was because I was using the phone for tapatalk, quick browsing, email and the like. I was using it like a mini tablet so I decided to just get one. BTW of all three devices I find the n7 easiest to type on.
[Nexus 7 General] angermeans:
No problem man. I would find someone that has one and try it out. For some it bothers them and others it doesnt. I'll always be interested in iOS (especially since I have a MacBook Pro with Mountain Lion and having an iPhone 4s, retina iPad, and mac really has a lot of benefits with iCloud and all). Also I didnt mention it above but another thing I do often on my phone is music and especially podcasts and the iOS wins hands down at that. Google music doesn't hold a candle to iTunes in my opinion, but the again Safari doesn't hold a candle to Chrome and Gmail is one of my favorite apps of all time. Im really invested in iOS and Google. I'm just glad that Apple and Google have worked some stuff out to get Chrome on iOS and it seems to work pretty well. They must have more access to APIs then normal app devs. It just seems to be a great browser. It blows my mind cause you can't even get Chrome on pre ICS phones, which is the majority of all Android devices out right now, but you can get it on iOS. Also it might just be the retina iPad and iPhone but Google+ app looks, works and feels better on iOS than Android. I just wish Gmail on iOS was good as it seems pretty bad. Anyways good hunting you can always do what I've done and others on this post and get ya a Galaxy Nexus to run side by side your iPhone 4s. They both have their advantages, disadvantages, bugs, and features after all.
[Nexus 7 General] tyrellcorpnexus:
Yeah for sure.

I love my MBA 2011 13" like no other. I've used Macs exclusively (well, with occasional XP on virtual machine for windows only hack tools but never for leisure) for photography and what I do for the past 8 years. And every iPhone. And every iPad (though I flipped my iPad 1 for iPad 2 once I could get my hands on one within weeks of having it, I didn't want a dinosaur dated tablet once A5 came out with 512 of RAM). It was nerve wrecking even giving Android a try. I almost returned it to sender for fear I wouldn't like it and have to eat the $50+ restocking fee from Samsung/Google.

But I bit the bullet and I am glad I did.

I went from "I've been way too curious to try android, now that its $350 no contract for a Nexus, no brainer and I'll swap 4S and Nexus interchangeably" to "I'm gonna not even bother" to "oh whatever" to "Nexus only" and awaiting to see what comes out in just a few months and taking it from there.

In a good spot :)

it also bothered me when Chrome came out for iOS, that it uses Safari engine due to App Store guidelines but with Chrome-ish UI. It's what I call "fake Chrome" and I went back to using Mobile Safari right away. I still am not sure how it's so popuar besides syncing up with Chrome bookmarks and history and such from desktop Chrome.

And agreed, Gmail app on Android is so much better than Mail app with Gmail in my opinion. Once my exchange server account expired, and I just redirected the alias to my gmail, I found Android integration better.

And I'm curious to see how Apple maps pans out, but I'm more frightened than anything. Turn by turn and Google maps on android is excellent. I can't imagine that being a big positive, getting rid of something I rely on quite a bit. At best, it'll be a "successful alternative"

Lightflow rocks so hard too. I wish iPhone had something comparable. Knowing whether I have SMS, missed call, Voicemail, or Gmail from the distance without picking it up.

The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about.

I really enjoy this interesting conversation/debate and I hope it continues. I'm an XDA noob but people here seem so tolerant or indifferent of others technology preferences (without atrributing the fanboy label), and it's so awesome.
[Nexus 7 General] muzzy996:
Whoah what a read...lol. Since you're so forthright I have to ask, exactly what kinds of tablet optimized apps are out there for iOS that aren't available for android? I'm interested myself since I had an iPad 2 that I gave to my wife in order to get an android tab for myself because I felt too restricted in what I could do with the iPad. I was looking for more work related things at the time (corporate email support, pdf editing, file level browsing, flash drive support etc.). It took a while but I understand there are now good PDF editing apps for iOS which there weren't a year or so ago. I'm kinda wondering now if there are things that would swing me back the other way, or at the very least things I should recommend to my wife.
[Nexus 7 General] @home:
Got all 3 - Just sold on my ipad, glad to see the back of it. Just way too much hassle, all that itunes messing about.

Nexus 7 so far looking good.
[Nexus 7 General] ExploreMN:
You can see from my signature, I've owned a good number of tablets and still have an iPad 2. Personally, I disagree 100% with the many MANY parroted responses of the OP. I see the iPad 2 lag all the time compared to the N7. Oh, Apple did a good job of hiding it, but it's there in spades. It just works...complete crock. I find myself regularly double tapping the button to kill and restart apps. App selection? Seriously, that's a pathetic argument. Try connecting to a server share. You have your choice of one app that is expensive (compared to Android) and it does a ****ty job. Need to attach a file to an email? Good luck with that...it can't be done. The iPad is practically useless except for games and web browsing. I could go on and on in a multi chapter book like the OP, but there isn't really a point. Plain and simple, iOS is junk.
[Nexus 7 General] kanzlerin:
I have ipad 3 and iphone 4. I'm still in love with their displays, but I'm such a light user that my little bit of reading, mailing and browsing is just a huge waste for them. The battery on iphone 4 sucks so it doesn't really work as a hot spot, plus I have to carry a laptop on my travels anyway. So I'm thinking about getting rid of the ipad and the iphone when I go home in August. Get a cheap Android phone that works as 3G hot spot (I have my eyes on some Huawei phones). But as a first time Android user, I'm a bit afraid to completely dump ios. Just as well I have a few weeks to try Nexus 7 out and then decide.
[Nexus 7 General] NorthernNoel:
I've got an iPad 2, Galaxy S3 and Nexus 7. They're all different devices. The S3 is great for on the go. The iPad is great for full screen web browsing. Initially I bought the Nexus 7 as it was cheap and I've always fancied an Android tab. The portability is a definite plus. I find myself chucking that in my bag over the iPad. It works better as an ereader (using the kindle app) over the other two being just the correct size. It also has the added benefit over the iPad with the freedom of Android. It's always been a pain when I want to get data on/off the iPad.

The downside is that web browsing is a bit more restricted with the small screen size. It does however work better than I though it would. Also there aren't as many apps for Android tablets yet. Hopefully that will change with the success of the Nexus 7.

All in all I'm quite happy with it and use it a lot more than I thought I would. If a Nexus 10 comes along further down the line I'd seriously consider replacing the iPad with it but don't think I'd get rid of the Nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 General] nandihno:
I have an original iPad that I don't use gave it to my 2 year old son

Have the iPad 3 which I don't use gave it to my wife have a galaxy note which o only use as my daily phone and the nexus 7 as my daily tablet

Is great my wife even prefers using the nexus 7

She also is a converter on the 7 inch factor is amazing
[Nexus 7 General] Overcomer:
I have Gnex as my main phone (just quit using an iPhone 4). I have 3 iPads in the house and now Nexus 7. I have been a heavy iPad user for about 3 years now. Phone wise I have been back and forth between Android and iOS. But the iPad has been used for a lot of content creation (office documents). I also use it as a study tool for my work and general browser etc etc...

I want an Android tablet to work well for a few reasons. I love iCloud, but I'm leery of getting locked into just iCloud for my documents/files (not so worried about music personally). I use dropbox as well, but keynote/pages + icloud just flatout works. Documents to Go works, but IMO it is OK at best. But I managed some document creation right off the bat this weekend with my Nexus 7...synced with dropbox...had access across both tablets as needed, but I either need to work on method of syncing or the process itself still needs work.

The other issue is that there are 2 programs for me that are either beta (not working at all w/JB) or not available at all for Android ATM. Once they are available I will be very happy and overall able to use either OS seamlessly for the most part.

For me, the most important thing is basic content creation and I think that iOS is still a little better at it than Andriod. But it is still doable. Second, I just need to work on my method of better syncing documents across the cloud between devices. Mountain Lions integration with iCloud is what I was waiting on, but at the same time I'm leery of putting all my eggs in one basket... Form factor of the Nexus 7 is awesome by the way.
[Nexus 7 General] CooLoserTech:
I have a

Nexus S 16 GB

Galaxy Nexus 32 GB

Nexus 7 16 GB

iPad 1 16GB

Ya I still use them a alot
[Nexus 7 General] tyrellcorpnexus:
what do you use your nexus s for over your GNex?

And considering I spend 90% of my time web browsing on iPad, you solidified my point :)

I agree though, Android tablets are probably far more functional as actual computers.

And N7 is still tempting, despite all this haha
[Nexus 7 General] ExploreMN:
I used to prefer the iPad for web browsing until getting the N7. Google did it right on this baby. Much better experience than the iPad now. Before this...not so much.
[Nexus 7 General] gparmar76:
I have Gnex, ipad2, Asus Transformer and Nex7...to be honest, I do most casual browsing on my GNex...always in my pocket and easier to grab when needed...I use either Chrome or Maxthon browser...never really liked the stock browser...I would have to say tablet browsing is equal between the Transformer and Nex7...simply because I like the browsers on Play Market better than Apple's.
[Nexus 7 General] platinumandroid:
Yup,I have all three

The Galaxy Nexus petaband

The Nexus 7 16gb

iPad 3 64gb

I use all three for different stuff and I wouldn't get rid of any of them,All three are amazing devices and if you already like and use both the iPad & G-Nexus I think you'll love adding the Nexus 7 to your family of device's
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
I have Galaxy S3, iPad 3 and Nexus 7 and I love each one of them.
[Nexus 7 General] Scythe024:
It doesn't have HBO go? I have it on my GNote so I know they have it for android. Guessing not compatible with JB? Yet
[Nexus 7 General] VιcкуHυgнєѕ:
Cant wait for my N7, Hopefully next week :)
[Nexus 7 General] angermeans:
I think the main thing to your view is that you are comparing an iPad 2 with the Nexus 7. The iPad 2 was great, but the new iPad is leaps and bounds better and not just in the display. I cant see for a minute how you can own an iPad and honestly say that app selection is a port argument. It is the only argument. If you don't have apps or just have blown up phone apps then you have just that. Giant phone apps. I love my Nexus 7 and after owning the Xoom and Prime I didn't ever think I would feel that way again. Android tablets are very poor (minus the Nexus 7 as I honestly feel it is the only tablet to date to actually belong in the same conversation. I don't know whats on your iPad, but mine never lags not for a second and although my Nexus 7 is very fast (by far the fastest android tablet to date) it still struggles at times. It's a great tablet and I'm very fortunate to own one. Because of the form factor (and because it is my new toy) I honestly use it more than any of my tech of late. Google honestly checked off all the right boxes and made the right omissions to keep the price down, but it is still a $200 tablet. The hardware is the best I've seen ASUS make to date, but the display is horrible. It does the job and Im hoping that most of its downfalls can be fixed with software updates and that maybe Google just didn't adjust it right. It has pretty bad ghosting, the colors are flat, gets really bright at times (mostly after watching Netflix or YouTube for some reason), and just doesnt always look right.
[Nexus 7 General] big samm:
Yup I have a 4s and iPad3 , also have a Gnex and a N7.

Since Jelly bean came out my iOS devices are collecting dust... But I know as soon as ios6 comes out along with the new iphone my android devices will start collecting dust too! And when the next nexus phone will come out then the iPhone 5 or whatever they call it will start collecting dust too and so on... Oh and forgot to say I also have a BlackBerry playbook and a bold 9900 who's been collecting dust for I don't know how long...

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
I fully agree with you on iPad and Nexus comparison and i own both Nexus 7 and iPad 3. I am having same issues with the screen that you have posted about nexus 7 in the last few sentences. I am posting them here from time to time in different posts but some people are totally denying any problem. I am glad someone honest have spoken up. Sir you and me have similar N7 and it appears that you are talking about my Nexus 7 after reading about your N7 in the last few lines as the flaws are same. I feel every nexus 7 has these basic problems but mostly people are either unaware or don't want to accept.

The brightness after watching any video Google play movies, you tube, Netflix etc is very annoying although it went away quickly or you can turn it off and back on for instant revival but still I don't want to do that. I would have paid happily 50-100 dollars more for a better quality screen had Google offered it to us. I think Google should have launched two versions of tab one nexus 7 and other one nexus 7 prime or some other name for better quality screen tablet. For a tablet screen is everything or you can say major part of the experience.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] SSaxman:
When I enable Keypad sounds, I dont get DTMF tones when dialing a number. I only get the little water droplet sound. Has anybody else noticed this?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] RF12:
I have the sounds turned off and DTMF doesn't work on my S3 for me either. Tested with multiple services.

I have a GT-I9300, stock ROM, running Android 4.0.4.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] sainthooligan:
It's like that for everyone- the droplet sounds are a dialing "feature" .

Though you may not hear it like a tone, it is still registering on the other end as a tone.

The option to uncheck the sound just prevents you from hearing it.

The only way to change/remove the droplet sound is to root and replace the file. There's more info in the forums here about this.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thispaininmyhead:
Why is AOSP support lacking so bad with these newer evo's? Are we ever going to get a fully functional AOSP rom?

(R)EVOLTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] YoungCorruptionV2.0:
Yup as soon as you learn to code
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
It's not lacking. We have multiple Devs working on aosp jelly bean.

Sit back and enjoy the ride. Also, this belongs in q and a where all the other Omg where is aosp threads reside.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
We've had wayyyy too many thread complaining about AOSP lately.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] TaintedByte:
Why is it hard to search the forums before making a thread? Are we ever going to get a consolidated thread about a specific topic?

Copy-cating aside, it really would be useful to have one thread for this so people that really want AOSP can discuss it to death there. Seriously a quick search yielded these results:

AOSP on EVO LTE?

Is there an AOSP rom out yet?

Why no AOSP/AOKP ?

We're a friendly bunch of people and will help anyone with any question/issue. Just search before making a post or we'll lose our sanity :)

Also, our devs are making awesome progress with AOSP. You can get a CM9 build here and even a bootable build of CM10 if you join the IRC channel. I want this as much as everyone else but we are not entitled to it, the devs don't owe us anything. Join an existing thread to discuss this but don't be so demanding about it. :good:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] spankmaster:
Firstly, we've only had source code for what, 2 weeks? maybe 3? What in the hell you do want? Secondly deck has release a few versions of his CM10 port including a newer build just an hour or so again on IRC. I'm running it right now, and so far his progress is a hell of alot better than alot of other even official alphas right now.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] msimindlessmsi2:
I have always ran sense roms on my phones, but am interested in pure android experience. With the release of source, can we expect working LTE and camera?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
Yep, definitely lacking.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DB13:
Damn you beat me too it lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thispaininmyhead:
Man yall are so angry by nature... I was pertaining this to official support... Everything seems to be done unofficially by a small handful of very good devs and i was just wondering why can't the Evo line get any official support anymore?

(R)EVOLTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] snakecharmer23:
+1 for a consolidated thread. It should be sticky near the top too. This is a very popular topic and the the #1 reason I come to check the forums.

The day I say goodbye to Sense will be a good day, indeed.

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I don't think any handset in the EVO line ever had AOSP supported officially. It's always been SENSE on top of android. If you ever wanted AOSP on anything besides a NEXUS device, it's unofficial.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] logie:
Cleanrom DE is not bad.. I know its not full
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] flex360:
clean rom is not aosp at all

-__-
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] funcrusher:
He probably means official CM.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xHausx:
Don't forget to twitter, email or message HTC to get them to live up to their obligations and comply with GPL.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
We aren't angry by nature, we just dislike repeat threads every single day. Do you not realize your question has been asked dozens of times with the same answer every time?

Patience. Learn the word. The phone hasn't been available long. People are still slowly flowing in. We need someone from CM to support our device. Decks CM10 is already pretty damn stable.

What you need to do is calm down and read the forums before posting a thread, because if you're going to make the same thread we've all see ten times in the past week, and then complain when we get angry, then you aren't going to be very well liked around here.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] joebarkho:
Besides asop gets boring. I love the evo I love sense 4 it all flows so good.. but I am using the ice keyboard.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] michael.stollaire:
Can we create an official "***** and Moan" forum and/or thread and "quarantine" certain XDA users to it? ;)
[HTC Rezound] chad0989:
Developers only!!! Please no general discussion in this thread. Any comments / thanks etc can go over in the general section.

​

To build you will need:

android_frameworks_base

device_htc_vigor

vendor_htc_vigor

android_device_htc_msm8660-common

vigor_aosp_kernel

Place in the respective places in your AOSP branch of choice and build. In CM9 I have:

Working:

Radio

Wifi

GPS

G sensor/accelerometer

Compass

Vibration

Sound

Microphone

Light/prox sensor

USB mounting

Cameras

Not working:

Bluetooth headset

If you fix something please send a pull request back to me.

Good luck have fun

https://github.com/Chad0989

New build box fund:

Goal reached. Thanks everyone!!

What I ordered: AMD FX-8120 + 16GB DDR3 (2x 8GB) + cheap board + cheap graphics card
[HTC Rezound] con247:
I will try to get the CM9 source to download (I have tried about 10 times w/o luck) and take a look at this! We all appreciate your hard work.
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
nice chad :) but question is their any specific commits i need from the frameworks_base? the ones u merged in i assume? the last 5