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[Motorola Atrix 2] dudemaaan:
What if someone buys an atrix 2 that is on 2.3.5 after the official ICS OTA is released? Will it first update to 2.3.6 and then to ICS? Seems rather redundant. Or would it attempt to update to ICS and fail? Certainly an average consumer wouldn't be forced to find a round about way to install the latest available firmware? Logically it seems like Motorola would make it possible for people to update their phones regardless of the previous version. I'm just thinking out loud here because I have no idea how they do their updates.

I don't see why Motorola even has the non disclosure bit in there. They can't possibly expect that releasing it to a bunch of random people that no one would share it. They can't even keep the firmware meant only for their own developers out of the public's hands.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fall of Enosis:
Hooray! You guys are the best!

Side note, off topic warning!

Now that we have a way back to 2.3.5, i called AT&T and my new phone is in the mail...

Gosh those cats will give a replacement for any reason... He didn't blink an eyelash at it. So Jim, disregard that pm i sent you about sending my phone in with the leak installed. :D
[Motorola Atrix 2] rlopezcomputers:
Did you had warranty or insurance? Just wanted to know if I could get a replacement as well
[Motorola Atrix 2] matt99017d:
For those of us on SCV7 is there any reason to downgrade to 2.3.5? Other than to have the "official " ota?

Or can we just hang tight and wait till our talented dev's wip something up and flash from scv7?
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fall of Enosis:
I replaced mine for a accelerometer hardware issue, i had NO insurance.

AT&T warranties their phones for one year. And like i said he didn't care.

Play dumb like me, "I don't know much about these phones, i thought maybe it was a file on my sd card, so i pulled that and nothing changed."

Lol, sd card causing accelerometer issues.... I crack myself up. Could barely contain myself.

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[Motorola Atrix 2] rdhoggattjr:
HAHA them sdcards get you every time! :p

Sent from my MB865 on ICS
[Motorola Atrix 2] :
Remember, this is the kinda face you hafta put..
[Motorola Atrix 2] rdavisct:
Simply put the updates are patches.so if ur on 2.3.5 .just check for updates,itll show 2.3.6.. install.then check again(once we have the ota of course). It wont patch from 2.3.5 to ics as the patch does a system integrity check to validate current 2.3.6 files. On the other hand if "that one dude" gets us an fxz. It wont matter if u came from android donut.

Assuming we dont have issues with mbm and that fxz of course. Afaik from talkin with other devs like jim,the fxz hard brick ordeal is only when trying to flash under the current 0.72 bootloader.not to an equal number or higher (which would be the ics fxz)

And now people are confirming that "china" 2.3.5 backwards flash works.

I plan on updating system to the ota for scv7. Itll be 98% same as leak with allegedly 4 fixes. Sdcard,radio,and i forget the other two.otherwise what we have now is what were looking at with the ota.
[Motorola Atrix 2] leifemagnuson:
About radio. I had problems at first on the leak but they improved. No more data drops. Now on your scv7 I have no problems at all. What are the issues you guys are looking at for the radio.
[Motorola Atrix 2] farshad525hou:
Yeah, the china flash works because it ignores the BL leaving it at 0.72. Just as a warning if you used the ICS Leak and fkz'ed back to 2.3.5 and OTA'ed to 2.3.6 you CANNOT use the 2.3.6 fkz patch. This is because RSD will again try to flash the .65 BL again bricking your phone!
[Motorola Atrix 2] rdavisct:
Hmm..are you sure? That would leave users stuck that went back to 2.3.5 wouldnt it?

Because there is no fxz to 2.3.6 keeping the bootloader of. 72

EDIT: actually yea,not true because the 2.3.6 update doesnt patch the bootloader to upgrade it.it uses same as 2.3.5 i think,it doesnt touch mbs bootloader at all afaik during upgrade to 2.3.6
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Not us, ATT and Moto, have made these changes to the final, from our att leak
[Motorola Atrix 2] farshad525hou:
Yeah the 2.3.6 upgrade doesn't touch the BL. So bassicslly we are all stuck on the. 72 boot loader until the ICS OTA.
[Motorola Atrix 2] mtnlion:
Will the a2 allow us to flash the radio separate through fastboot?

Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
[Motorola Atrix 2] 41rw4lk:
So the BL is kind of like it was with the old .SBF files. Once you upgraded your bootloader you couldn't flash down to a lower secure version. It really didn't matter what version of android it was, it was just a matter of staying within the same secure version, or upgrading. Right?
[Motorola Atrix 2] :
So what you are saying is, is that if your on ics and you go back to 2.3.5 and ota to 2.3.6 and screw up something, you have to use the patch from ics fzx to go back to 2.3.5, Correct?
[Motorola Atrix 2] rdhoggattjr:
Yes. If not it will try to flash your BL you brick your phone.

Sent from my MB865 on ICS
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Yes, you are exactly correct!
[Motorola Atrix 2] rdhoggattjr:
Jim i was wondering if you have found anything on the NS mbmloader? No rush through with the whole ICS thing i think you need a vacation :)

At this point thanks to bootmenu I'm dualbooting stock and SCV7 so i have a lot to play with. :D

Sent from my MB865 on ICS
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Only if it a full image file. I am guessing the OTA will be a patch file not an full image. That is why those that flashed the leak and don't fxz back will be stuck there. Once the OTA comes out, I and most likely all of your dev community too will be working to figure out how to get everyone on it, so most likely some edits to the update script will need to be made to ignore the BL and not fail based on that.
[Motorola Atrix 2] :
What are the chances that the ota will be a different build than this leak?
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Yeah I have some theories, and I have found 2 of the 6 needed efuse hex values, to set. If I can get all the 6 need hex values, I can try and switch the e-fuse to allow us to attempt a flash of the NS bootloader. I am putting the search on hold for most likely the next 2 weeks, since the ICS OTA is most likely coming in the next 2 weeks, and I am 99% sure I will have the soak files in possession in the next several days. So the ns bootloader will have to sit for a little while.
[Motorola Atrix 2] big ach:
What issues? I went through the entire [bugs] thread and have yet to find any of the things anyone is talking about! My ICS leak is working great :D

Either that... or I'm so simple minded that I haven't noticed the issues! lol
[Motorola Atrix 2] hankbizzo5:
So would I be correct to assume that moto will have a process to go from soak to official ICS..... That in turn would help get from leak to official ICS?????
[Motorola Atrix 2] jboxer:
No, because barring any major bugs the soak is the final, official rom.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Ajfink:
He may mean in case any show-stopping bugs ARE uncovered with the soak, in which case, yes, they would provide a way to the official path.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jboxer:
Yes but if this is the case than the way out would be for people that flashed the soak test rom only, as it would be checking sha1sum values for the soak test rom and not any other roms.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Ajfink:
Correct. People who installed the leak would not be included.
[Motorola Atrix 2] kousik:
Is there anyone from India who received a soak test invitation? Or even in Asiapac zone? I guess signing up in MFN now wouldn't help me, too late.
[Motorola Atrix 2] athani:
Soak tests seem to be US only.

BTW, has the soak test started...anyone received the OTA update?
[Motorola Atrix 2] nahuelarg86:
I was wondering the same thing...
[Motorola Atrix 2] cogeary:
^ I don't think so. I got the email today and it told me to respond quickly if I wanted to test because the survey ended tomorrow morning. So the test is soon but not quite yet,
[Motorola Atrix 2] jangeles323:
i got the email also saying that if i don't reply soon it will expire 7/31 morning. So in order for me to get the preview of ics i'd have to return back to stock with fxz and then ota to GB correct, as i am using supercharged v5
[Motorola Atrix 2] rdhoggattjr:
Yes

Sent from my MB865 on ICS
[Motorola Atrix 2] jboxer:
Yes. I am in Thailand, registered with a Thai address with an AT&T Atrix 2 and got an invitation to the soak test. They want some people using the phone outside of the AT&T network to make sure everything is copacetic.

My email said that I had to reply by the 29th. I guess they did not have enough participants and sent out some more invites.
[Motorola Atrix 2] dk-v1:
Not yet. I've reverted back to bone stock 2.3.6 (I had only rooted). Probably checking updates every few hours...nothing yet.

MOTO said they were going to send out emails when/before the SOAK test would start. They may be waiting on more people???

Wouldn't hurt to sign up if you haven't already.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Waiting4MyAndroid:
I am the OP and have not received any new emails regarding soak test.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Waiting4MyAndroid:
Currently my phone is on OTA 2.3.6 and never been rooted. Also I have your typical garden variety apps and games. Also I have 3 email accounts. Do I need to do a factory reset before the soak test? I really hate to lose all my emails and text messages. Thanks.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jboxer:
No, do not reset. If you did the survey and were put on the soak test list, it told you to only do a reset immediately after submitting the survey if, and only if, you had to reflash your phone to stock. If your IMEI is on the list and you do a factory reset once the list has been submitted to the OTA servers the reset will remove you from the soak test list. Just be patient and wait. A typical OTA does not erase your user data space and all installed apps and settings will be preserved. The more apps you have installed, the longer the initial boot will take after the update has been installed.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jangeles323:
Since i'm still at supercharged rom, and i submitted my survey last night.. Is it too late to revert back to stock and ota to 2.3.6?
[Motorola Atrix 2] jboxer:
Get back to stock asap. It has to be done before the list is submitted to the servers. You might still be okay.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jangeles323:
okay i will do so

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will i be able to root and apply all my back up apps, when i ota to 2.3.6 stock?
[Motorola Atrix 2] jboxer:
Root doesn't matter as the asserts do not check for "su" or "superuser.apk," but you cannot install the Atrix 2 Bootstrap to run CWM recovery as that changes system files that are checked by the asserts. Also use OTA Rootkeeper and/or check the box in the Superuser app to preserve root after OTA. If it works you will have ICS and be already rooted.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jangeles323:
Okay thanks, I'm new to flashing to stock on motorola as i originally came form a samsung captivate which is easier to flash etc. But thanks i won't install cwm
[Motorola Atrix 2] dk-v1:
How will the reset remove you from the soak test? The IMEI stays the same.

Just wondering b/c I did factory reset after just having root. Towards the end of the survey it said to factory reset.
[Motorola Atrix 2] hoodlikegaza:
He doesn't know what he's talking about...
[Motorola Atrix 2] hankbizzo5:
Would you want to keep root so you could pull downloaded update from cache and share with your friends before updating.....
[Motorola Atrix 2] jboxer:
The survey did not say to factory reset. What it said was that if you have to restore your phone to stock and/or factory reset (for whatever reason) to do so immediately after completing the survey and that doing so after the soak test has begun will remove you from eligibility of the test. Also, factory reset does not remove root as the system partition is left untouched. A factory reset simply wipes the dalvik cache and erases all user data files and user installed apk files. Root persists beyond a factory reset.

Motorola knows you did a factory reset for the simple fact that the phone and its IMEI are linked to an underlying Motorola sync account. When I first got my phone (second hand) it had 2.3.5 on it. One of the first things I did is to check for an OTA to 2.3.6. Before I could check for an OTA update the phone told me that I had to setup an account with Motorola. I said ok and the phone did its stuff for a minute or so and linked my phone to a Motorola sync account and then let me check for an update and updated to 2.3.6. So my guess is that Motorola is either just setting something in your Motorola sync account that says you are in the soak test, or they put both your IMEI and your Moto account at the time the test begins in the soak list. If you factory reset you have to set up a new sync account with Motorola, which for privacy reasons, will be different from the one you had before the factory reset. So Motorola knows when you factory reset when you set up your new sync account with their servers. They may also do nothing and not care but the end of the survey did give a warning about the factory reset and did say if you do it later it could remove you from the soak test.
[Motorola Atrix 2] nahuelarg86:
Any news as of today?
[Motorola Atrix 2] dk-v1:
Nope.

I'm sure just as soon as the first person gets the update this entire forum will know.
[Motorola Atrix 2] seraphielx:
so hate stock and not being able to mod the crap out of it... they need to get a move on
[Motorola Atrix 2] atrix2noob:
Any news yet?
[Motorola Atrix 2] hankbizzo5:
Just did a google search and nothing new?????
[Motorola Atrix 2] adelvillar:
The last soak test took about 7 days from answering the survey and the chosen ones getting the updates. If this one is anything like it then we should be getting it tomorrow... or not.
[Motorola Atrix 2] dk-v1:
http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1376

??

OT: People keep asking about the soak test. I can promise you that as soon as it starts, everyone here will know.
[Motorola Atrix 2] troycarpenter:
My guess is that he is signed up for the soak test and waiting for the official soak OTA (and therefore "stuck" on stock 2.3.6), not that he wants to grab the one ICS ROM we have thus far (which is the same boat I am in right now...stuck on stock waiting for the soak to begin so I can root and move on).
[Motorola Atrix 2] stedean:
I'm on stock 2.3.6. Until the soak test is released, when I check for a software update, should my phone say it's up to date, or that the update service is unavailable? Right now it says "Check for update is not available, try again later". Also, will the people selected for the test get an email before the update is available? I wasn't in the last soak test, so not sure what to look for.
[Motorola Atrix 2] aabaaf:
If if's like the last SOAK test, they will send you an e-mail saying you've been selected and that within the next "few days" you will sent the file. A notice will just appear saying there is an update to your phone, and to please install it, the e-mail again reminding you to be on stock 2.3.6. This is the reason they need your IMEI #, because they only send the file to those chosen to participate. Right now we're all just waiting for that e-mail if they do it the same as last time saying we're accepted. Then would just be a day or so if like last time, till they send the file.
[Motorola Atrix 2] stedean:
OK, thanks.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Ajfink:
I get the "unavailable" message when I check for fun, too. I think it has to do with the fact that they are about to roll out a soak.
[Motorola Atrix 2] aabaaf:
From another post in the General section, additional info, doesn't specifically refer to SOAK, but here is a post direct from MOTO about ICS for ATRIX 2. Thanks to another poster for this information.
[Motorola Atrix 2] dk-v1:
Pretty nonspecific and generic response.
[Motorola Atrix 2] aabaaf:
Never said it gave away MOTO secrets............
[Motorola Atrix 2] davezaff:
So your just double posting previous posts about stuff we are already well aware of....hey thanks.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
Not like we haven't seen loads of that type of thing already... haven't seen you post anything of any value! :p
[Motorola Atrix 2] davezaff:
Right back at ya genious.

I visit xda for knowledge not stupid posts that just waist everyones time such as yours.

Or stupud topics like yours........it's quiet in here......derp.

Playtex-strider
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
Visitors welcome.

(Grammar and punctuation optional)

:cool:
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
So why start by contributing crap and then keeping it going. Just go back to not posting and keep us all happy.

I am about this far from having this thread locked.

Everyone go your separate ways!
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
Noted and observed.

My apologies, I was just being silly. Clearly there are still those here who have to be overly combative when picked at a little. Egos are powerful things, to some...

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 Anti-MOTO Ballistic Missile
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
Dupe
[Motorola Atrix 2] D001:
Just joined up here, and would like to commend the devs here for their great work. Joined to find out about ICS on the Atrix2. Will check this forum for news. Thanks.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Bensal1992:
When the update will be available to download OTA ?

I wanted to install the leak but I prefer to wait for the official update from Motorola.

thanks
[Motorola Atrix 2] :
:eek: :confused:

Sorry! no info!
[Motorola Atrix 2] athani:
Within the next 1 month would be a good guesstimate.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Jce9182:
sounds lke a good guess to me. everyone will definitely know. as much as most of us dont want to see it happen, the the forum is going to blow up like it did when the leak came out.
[Motorola Atrix 2] leifemagnuson:
Is anyone on 2.3.6 still cheesecaking to see if something else comes our way. I don't know if we could catch the soak test early or some other intermoto wip leak.
[Motorola Atrix 2] captaincado:
Still on 2.3.6 and checking cheesecake @ least twice a day.

Sent from my ATRIX 2 using Morse code
[Motorola Atrix 2] A2Trip:
Word is, our beloved A2 will be gettin JB...time unknown. Check it:

Sent From My Delicious Ice Cream Sandwhich...Not Your Disgusting Apple Pie!
[Motorola Atrix 2] Jce9182:
I like what I see

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Maybe one day ill log on and see bootloader unlocked
[Motorola Atrix 2] MagicXB:
Where/how did you find this info?
[Motorola Atrix 2] A2Trip:
http://www.androidtaskforce.com/2012/07/21/official-jelly-bean-update-list/

I'm actually a fan of their facebook page. They actually post very informative posts. Check em out.

Sent From My Delicious Ice Cream Sandwhich...Not Your Disgusting Apple Pie!
[Motorola Atrix 2] cogeary:
One of the commenters posted about the Rezound, which hasn't gotten the ICS update yet. The author of that article replied and said that since it will get ICS it's very likely to get JB, but since it's unconfirmed it's unknown. So although our A2 is fully capable of JB, don't get your hopes up TOO high of official JB (note the word: official).
[Motorola Atrix 2] A2Trip:
Very true. And I agree. If anything it'll be like what 9 months to a year before we get that update lol. Just thought it was pretty good gosip to give to everyone. But again, I agree...don't get hopes up...at least for awhile from now since we havent officially even gotten ICS.

Sent From My Delicious Ice Cream Sandwhich...Not Your Disgusting Apple Pie!
[Motorola Atrix 2] Ajfink:
The Rezound just got ICS, been rolling out for a few days now (my girlfriend has a Rezound and I had her update it two nights ago).

As for Atrix 2 Jellybean, that'd be nice, but I, too, have low hopes for it.

You know, I wouldn't have cared if Motorola did anything except unlock the bootloader and release device resources. The community would have done a better, faster job.
[Motorola Atrix 2] thenext1:
Sorry to slash your hopes, but that list is not credible. According to them, the OG Atrix may also get JB, which we all know it isn't the case.
[Motorola Atrix 2] JMM2009:
Just signed up for the test today

I just received an email to participate, so it looks like MOTO is still collecting volunteers
[Motorola Atrix 2] nahuelarg86:
Holy S..T Still?!
[Motorola Atrix 2] leifemagnuson:
I didn't think i would get a soak test email. Most seemed to get them a week or two ago. I got one and filled out the survey 3 days ago. I got another email today saying software will be available "in the up coming days" and to be stock. By the way my imei # is the same as when i was on ics. Why do they warn you to be stock befote they update that list if it doesn't change?
[Motorola Atrix 2] A2Trip:
Because if your not stock you will not be able to pull the OTA unless you were just stock rooted or a ROM based in stock you could pull it but I'm sure you'll lose root after installing.

Sent From My Delicious Ice Cream Sandwhich...Not Your Disgusting Apple Pie!
[Motorola Atrix 2] leifemagnuson:
I undetstand that. I was wondering why it ask to be stock before they update the imei # list if that # doesn't change. Why would it matter when i went to stock?
[Motorola Atrix 2] jboxer:
Because your IMEI is linked to an underlying Motorola sync account. if you restore to stock you get a new underlying sync account the first time you query the OTA servers for an update. If the sync account doesn't match what was linked to your device's IMEI when they make the soak list, then your new sync account won't be approved for the soak test.
[Motorola Atrix 2] freshbakd:
Got the email yesterday can't wait
[Motorola Atrix 2] dk-v1:
Maybe they'll actually start it soon...it's already been a few weeks since the first set of emails went out.
[Motorola Atrix 2] eddiemc12:
moto frustrations

maybe they're just stalling the process to frustrate us the waiting was killing me so much i went back to the ics leak
[Motorola Atrix 2] jboxer:
When they start recruiting people they are still fine tuning the builds. If an issue comes up they think they can improve they will make a new release candidate build. So if they are still tweaking we might have to wait a week or longer. They try to make the soak OTA the same as the final release unless some major bug pops up during the soak test, and if that happens they will address the issues and have another soak test first.
[Motorola Atrix 2] eddiemc12:
lets see

i wonder how much different the final release will be considering the leak has been getting some good reviews ,it's been running pretty well for me so far games media battery life and all
[Motorola Atrix 2] jboxer:
Most likely the final release will be close to the leak. Just a few tweaks different most likely. Hopefully the soak test will start soon. Been 11 days since I got my invitation.
[Motorola Atrix 2] eddiemc12:
moto

lets hope moto doesn't make it 111 days and counting. LOL
[Motorola Atrix 2] Ajfink:
Worst-case, they uncovered a bug they just couldn't live with and are hammering it out. Best-case (and this is still pretty annoying), they have been using their update server capacity for the bunch of other Motorola devices that have seen updates pushed recently.

I'm just hoping for 1.2Ghz stock.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jboxer:
The 1.2Ghz stock is a weird one. On the leak some people get it and some don't. People are thinking there must be some type of stress test done during initial boot to determine if the cpu can handle it or not. It would be nice if that is left in, but then it's a crap shoot whether you get it or not. Just have to be lucky you have a cpu performing at whatever specs they are looking for to enable it.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Preggy:
Shouldn't we be able to confirm that by looking what max overclock speeds are those devices that are stock on 1.2 and those that are on 1.0 (max as in they can't handle more without crashing) or can't we manually overclock on ics yet?