yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] davisac:
It's up. Downloading now. :good:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
paranoidandroid pa_grouper-2.99-12JAN2013-130920

this is your rom: http://goo.im/devs/paranoidandroid/roms/grouper/pa_grouper-2.99-12JAN2013-130920.zip

these are your gapps: http://goo.im/devs/paranoidandroid/roms/gapps/pa_gapps-full-4.2-20130108.zip
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
of course they are. aaron and i we're both developers for aospa. im just helping out coz he must concentrate on school right now.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Sultan.Alkhuzaie:
Can anybody post his battery life usage with heavy use and and without undervolting and what kernel you are on
[Nexus 7 Original Development] cammel:
Thanks man! You're awesome!!!

Thanks a lot!!! :D:D:D:D:D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Treatcon:
Moles is it possible to add the nav button editing stuff like N4 has?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zachf714:
Oh OK I'm new to the 7 i don't know all of the devs yet :)

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] cocchiararo:
Weird, I never notice this issues on my n7

I don't use stock launcher tho.

Have fixed the icons and the toggle order issues too?

--

Tapatalk2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
yes, its in it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
well i made a factory reset and got drowned in crashes. i couldnt open the appdrawer without getting em. switching to tabUI caused crashes, too. but doesnt matter now - all should be good now. the tablet UI was missing some layout containers - i tested it only with nexus and mako and just assumed it would work everywhere.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] NickS VR4:
Is the upgrade worth it from 2.54? Been sitting on that u til 3.0 which keeps inching closer. This sounds like a great revision, but I have had no issues with 2.54.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] B3rt0:
Sure it is worth it. And I guess the Dev's need Feedback too... So dont be lazy and flash it! With Titanium Backup its really not a big deal anyway...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
2.54 is an old rom.

new pa does not even look the same, its a whole different beast

new paprefs alone is worth the upgrade, you havent seen a rom-control as cool as that one.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] cammel:
Hi again, before flashing this as my first custom rom on my N7, do you recommend me to stay on stock kernel or could you personally recommend me one you think is nice and working good on PA??

Thanks a lot and sorry for being so annoying... :p
[Nexus 7 Original Development] B3rt0:
Hope you dont mind me answering as well :P There are a few very nice kernels out there. Faux enhanced stock kernel for instance or the latest nightlies from Bricked. But after all you should give them a go yourself and have a look what you need. Performance? Balanced? Energy Saving?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] SupWiz17:
Is there any way to take screenshots on this ROM yet?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
you could always take screenshots. power+voldown
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zaclimon:
Power + vol-. It's universal across all roms.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] dotnetnightmare:
This is really turning out to be an epic release! The new build works great. As for kernels, I like M-kernel. It takes the guess work out off settings. Simply a28 for battery, a29 for performance. I have used Trinity, Franco, Bricked, but M a29 has the best, smoothest performance on PA 2.99 with really good batter life.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] p-slim:
I disagree even stock roms like HTC roms and Samsung roms include those natively like on my S3, i haven't seen a custom rom that doesn't have rom. Even with cm10 it's the 1st thing they always ad but no need to clog up the thread on disagreements especially when its been brought up numerous times so its seems I might be right.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sivsiv:
Thanks will do.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
what is a must have and what not in roms, i guess opinions differ. it will sure come when one of us has time - theres so many other things that we think is must-have and that other roms dont have. like tablet UI on grouper for instance. it costs time to do it right.

the only reason percentage isnt already in it is because we need transparant bitmaps, not just opaque ones. we have per-app-color and each icon must be able to handle that. re-doing the original icons from scratch wasn't easy and for a programmer to breed over photoshop and make icons, believe me when i say its no fun. ;)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] S3tArtist:
I'm sure, there's a lot of photoshop users, that would like to help. Just give the instructions if u need help on that.

I can help too...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] aaronpoweruser:
Thank moles for the new build, the easiest way way to do that would be to buy pa pro (shameless plug) sorry guys been moving into new place m starting classes. Waiting for Internet to be connected then hopefully I can be productive
[Nexus 7 Original Development] damagedgoods:
No rush, man. Thanks for all you hard work.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] golfinggino:
There is a new version in goo manager dated today anyone flash yet ?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] damagedgoods:
Yep. Dirty flash. It works brilliantly. No issues.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] kazemitsui:
new build works really well. all my errors from previous builds are all fixed thanks!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ROFLkopter:
Bored of Stock 4.2.1 now so gonna flash PA2.99B9.9-2 and franco.Kernel

My N7 was a beast before on 4.1.2 with PA2.54 and fK25! Love this ROM, it's awesome :D

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ClintvL:
Yup, works great! My whatsapp is working again =D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] mistermagic87:
Very awesome will be paying for the PA app to support development. Great Rom.

My only request is to have a toggle in settings to make the menu button on the navigation bar permanent.

Any possibility this is making it in to PA3.0?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
Installed. It fixed all the issues I had on beta9.9. Thanks!

I can't buy PA prefs pro twice, otherwise I would do it!;)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] napster113:
Can anyone tell me how to enable usb debugging, I can't for the life of me find the option and its driving me nuts lol, I'm using latest beta .:banghead:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] napster113:
Now that you say that I remember reading about it lol thanks':)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Death&co:
Hi guys, I want to update the new PA that came out today. What's the best way to backup my 3rd party apps and widgets though? I don't want to spend so much time re-downloading everything :eek:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TigTigerTig:
Titanium Backup, use it to backup all user apps.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Mac of York:
Thanks guys for fixing plague inc's compatibility! :D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] N@th_OC:
Yeah if you have just one app to buy. Buy this one.

It's "the" best seller!! :cowboy:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Mac of York:
How do you edit the nav bar buttons? Can we add more? Sorry, I've been trying to figure this out for half an hour...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Skyfall007:
BATTERY BUG

I did full wipe but battery bug is present for me!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Grizzly6117:
Can anyone recommend me the best kernel to use with this ROM, I've used the m_kernel and performance wasn't to good
[Nexus 7 Original Development] benhidalgo:
Went PRO!

Updated to "pa_grouper-2.99-12JAN2013-130920" and fixed lots of bugs. I hardly found any bugs at all. I seen the "go pro" under Hybrid properties and went for it. Paranoid deserves it for their great effort.

+1 +2 +3...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] cammel:
Just installed this rom on my N7 for the first time!! Damn it's awesome!!

But still don't understand all the different layouts it has!! It is to complicated for me! Maybe I need time to get used to it, but in the mid time, I need my stock nexus 7 layout with the two notification bars on top of the screen, so what should I do?

Thanks!

Enviado desde mi GT-I9300 usando Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] dotnetnightmare:
Are you referencing the three dot nav button that is used for application menus? It is merged with the open programs nav key "the 2 squares overlapping". If you notice in a program the square has the 3 small dots appear in it, now long press on it to activate the menu. Make sure to have the newest build from today as yesterdays gave me problems using this feature.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Mac of York:
Oh, I thought we could add more or something -- I knew about that. Thanks though.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] shmega:
Yea on m-kernel the scrolling was really laggy for me no matter what I did. Switched to lean kernel v1.2 and is super smooth
[Nexus 7 Original Development] darkmatthew:
The best custom rom ever <3

I love tablet ui and stable
[Nexus 7 Original Development] FReaKRaNT:
What was the latest version of M-kernel that you used? The latest versions are butter.

Cheers, FReaKRaNT
[Nexus 7 Original Development] davisac:
Try the "phone" or "stock" layouts.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] blackhand1001:
Wish they would migrate back to cm. The vanilla aosp versions have been pretty underwhelming. The performance was much better on the cm based versions and they were less buggy.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Mac of York:
Or phablet
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TigTigerTig:
The stock layout is the Phablet layout :P
[Nexus 7 Original Development] dsmitty166:
You can add more.

Settings > toolbars > navigation controls
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Mac of York:
I don't have that option...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Metallice:
Yeah... its surprising how many people don't know that performance can be adjusted to fit there needs with governor parameters...

Before I started out with super battery friendly parameters and figured that users could just slowly work down until they found performance level that works for them...

Apparently I was sorely mistaken. Complaints... whining... people saying how great and smooth other kernels were... telling other people to switch... and all they had had to do was lower up threshold from 98 to a level that suits them...

So now I just have performance on demand parameters by default like every other kernel here.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] JPHCCFC:
I don't think it's enabled in tablet ui, it is on phone and phablet
[Nexus 7 Original Development] shmega:
Gotta agree with you there
[Nexus 7 Original Development] christianlr25:
The GPS tile in quick settings isn't positioned correctly. The icon for it is too small compared to the other ones. Look at the screenshot to see what I'm talking about.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zachf714:
I like that it is on pure aosp they are making much more of themselves as a team..... It shows that they want to be More unique :)

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Death&co:
Went ahead and purchased the "PRO" settings to show my support. This was my first ROM ever flashed since I switched from IOS gadgets. I've received nothing but help in this thread and that goes along way. Keep up the great work guys! Love the rom! :good:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] NoobNeutralizer:
Is there anything in the "Pro" settings that isn't in the normal version?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
icons too small and that battery derp is probably my fault. it was missing many icons and layout definitions that were originally made for xhdpi and not tvdpi. in the time i spent i did the best i could to fix your bugs but when swapping tons of icons could well be i screwed one or two up. will be easy to fix though.

as for this:

cm is not as fast as this rom. asop is the best base you can wish for, because it has been optimized for nexus. and cm has not as much customization as pa. the bugs you had were due to small differences that nexus 7 had (its tvdpi, not xhdpi, thats all). the latest beta runs rock stable on the other devices and todays build should be very close to that.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] blackhand1001:
I've used both. Cm is still faster. Its especially noticeable on the nexus 10 where the entire ui is laggy on paranoid and butter smooth in cm. CMs trebuchet launcher also received a recent overhaul that makes it in my opinion the best launcher at the moment. You could go cm based and add your own custom settings like aokp does. You don't have to be strictly cm. But right now the aosp base has been a major downgrade from the old cm based paranoid Roms. The customization features in cm have far less bugs as they have a lot more devs reviewing the code and they try to keep things from looking like they are part of the stock android UI. Cm is also based on aosp as well so any optimization they add in also is in cm.

At a minimum I would appreciate if you integrated trebuchet into paranoid as I prefer that over nova or apex. Nova and apex always mess with the icon spacing and you never can get it exactly like stock. Trebuchet on the other hand keeps the stock spacing by default and allows you to customize as well. Ideally you would add the launcher settings shortcut in the setting app like cm has as well.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] akakitsu:
You can also use Holo Launcher HD, it's based on stock with the features you mentioned. There's no reason to include trebuchet.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zaclimon:
Or he can install trebuchet by himself too... also I find better for PA to go aosp than to base itself from CM. It's makes it a cleaner look.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Mac of York:
I'm just hoping we'll have a hold back to kill option, or something else that works similar. xD Spoiled by that on my phone!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bloodhawk:
For some reason with today's build (12th Jan) there is no status bar in the Tablet mode.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] davisac:
Try reapplying the tablet mode? It's working fine here.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lollyjay:
Same here. Works fine in tablet ui
[Nexus 7 Original Development] shmega:
I wonder if you held a new round of voting (for either cm or aosp base) what would happen. I think maybe people, well I'll speak for myself, voted for aosp because we wanted something different, or were getting bored. But we didn't realize that we'd lose a lot (or most) of cm's features.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bloodhawk:
Well wiped and re flashed! Fixed the issue! :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Flukester69:
ROM works well here. Using gapps 1212 here. 130+ apps, Titanium restore and 6 hours without a problem. Oh running M-Kernel a28 as well.

A feature of old would be the kill all tasks button in pulldown. I thought that was a PA original. Hope it comes back because its avail in most other great ROMs.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zaclimon:
Its was already made. I think it's on the poll at the top when you check in the thread. I do think that it's closed though and people wanted an aosp base instead of a cm one.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] shmega:
Huh? Yea I know, my whole post was talking about the first round of voting, did you even read it? I even said "if you held a new round of voting" and "I voted for blah blah because..."
[Nexus 7 Original Development] slick_rick:
Thanks for what you've been doing! Just one request and not a big one. When you have notifications, the clear all button is too close to the quick settings button and it would be great if they could be spaced out a tiny bit. Thanks!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zaclimon:
My bad I haven't saw it sorry.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] najaboy:
I, on the other hand, wonder why some people are forgetting what has been stated time and again regarding development of this rom and what a beta is and is not. It was widely known from day one that, while this rom will include some cm features, they will not be cherry picked and integrated until after this rom hits the stable release milestone. If you don't realize that you'd temporarily lose most cm features, then you failed to read what was stated and then further clarified, by the devs right out of the gate.

I'm sure most people would prefer a solidly constructed rom rather than developers throwing crap against a wall in the hopes that something sticks. Be patient and more good things will come.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zachf714:
I like you think that and i also think that it makes then even more unique :)

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] fatboy547:
Everything is smooth except WiFi signal constantly breaks in n out of connection
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ekanix20:
What kernel do you run?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] x.Orville.x:
download link not working
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TahrirSquare:
I posted a mirror just search thread for mirror
[Nexus 7 Original Development] brizey:
So I went ahead and just put the fixed apk and config files from the bugfix zip into the appropriate places in the main zip and all seems well.

My wifi seems fine (kernel is Trinity 50).
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ekanix20:
Hers is another very fast download mirror.

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8SH3m-Rg62idGoxbWhxajdWajQ
[Nexus 7 Original Development] mrnovanova:
Can somebody tell me in laymen terms what exactly is different? Change log too technical and I see no difference between 197 and 198
[Nexus 7 Original Development] brianjr1:
Is anyone else having an issue with launcher settings? The dock, drawer and icons settings icons are broken. I'm guessing that since it's a trebuchet thing its on cms end but I'm not totally sure.

Also, thank you moles. You're doing a fabulous job and if I wasn't a poor college student I'd buy you a beer.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ekanix20:
Yep that's not a bug on your side, it's a CM bug.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] brianjr1:
I figured as much. Thanks
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
broken? they're stubs, in age old cm tradition. trebuchet is only hours old, the poor guy has to merge an entire catalogue of features, dont expect that to happen in minutes. merging is a tough process and really not so simple, considering that the base has drastically changed. trebuchet will grow, cm10 will grow.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
i really try not to make em too dry and technical. open recents in tabUI and switch to landscape. thats a pretty good change. longpress a recent and tap hybrid properties, thats another. other changes are low-level, you dont wanna know if you cant read my changelogs, just know that it should be all better under the hood. :cool:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] tiny4579:
I'm pretty sure the launcher desktops are gone due to the app name change from Launcher2 to Trebuchet. This was an upstream CM10 change, right moles? It may be possible to preserve the desktop with the launcher change. However the good news is that you only have to do this once if you're dirty flashing as I don't forsee the app name changing again.

Theoretically if one were to want to keep the desktop they could copy the database folder and files folder from the launcher data to the trebuchet data location manually. As it may break stuff and cause force closes I don't recommend it and haven't even tried it, just took a peek.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] arrjaytea:
You know, you are an incredibly patient guy for the amount of **** thrown your way.

And I say that having been one of those tossers at one point.

Cheers for the work, I really do love this ROM immensely.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
yes, the packagename changes and thats it, for android its a new app. the data lies in the data partition so it should be safe from now on. unless of course nebkat uses the sys partition but i dont think so.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Tapek-AU:
wow what kind of asshole just deletes other peoples work? or was it not something malicious and an accident? Thanks again Moles for the constant updates and patience!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
no man. git is secure. stuff like that happens when youre working in a team. i deleted my pals work once by using the force option. this time no one seems to know where its gone but doesnt matter, if the fix works we're in luck.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] MIOB91:
So installed the update and all my settings are gone :(.

I guess more people have the same problem?

I personally don't like the tablet UI. Now the phablet mode (regular size) is not on the configuration menu and it's the one I personally like. Probably I did something wrong?

I installed:

WIPE CACHE

ROM

FIX

GAPPS

KERNEL

WIPE CACHE

Also, I used to be able to change in between (default, tablet UI, phablet, etc) for each app now it's all 320px 600 px 1000 etc. Is it normal.

Thank you :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
settings are always overwritten. you can use the backup-restore function.

whatever mode your phone boots into after update, who cares, just change it. phablet is out because "Stock" IS phablet, so chose stock. or go to systemUI directly and choose 213 dpi and 600px, which is the same that the stock setting takes.

tablet phablet tablet, that was arbitrary. three hardcoded values that worked only for a very tiny amount of your apps. now the apps list their actual containers. you see if they have higher or lower layout containers or if they dont. you wont be stabbing into the blue with this like you did before, you know, set to tabUI, nothing happens, etc. ... what you see now are the screensizes at which an app declares layout changes.

example: playmarket says, "ok, i change to two paned tablet view if i detect a screen as big as 800px." before you tried setting it to "tabUI" and nothing happened, simply because it was hardcoded to 720. fact is that apps define it by themselves so we really dont wanna fool with hardcoded values anymore.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Tapek-AU:
haha fair enough, glad it was just an accident and not someone trying to screw with you
[Nexus 7 Original Development] blackhand1001:
The settings menu doesn't get integrated in properly on non cm ROMs. I prefer trebuchet as its the only custom launcher right now that doesn't screw up the icon spacing, especially in the app drawer. Holo launcher screws it up, nova screws up spacing on the desktop in landscape mode with no setting to adjust it, and apex screws up the spacing in the app drawer as well. Trebuchet is the only one that doesn't screw it up and cm just put many new customizations in it while keeping it stock by default.

Also why reinvent the wheel. CM has a very stable base and the features are well thought out and tested extensively before included in official builds. It also supports way more devices than aosp. There are hundreds of contributers and testers in cm. Why not let them work for you too by basing your ROM on their code. AOSP itself has zero features until you start cherry picking, but none of those picks are as well tested as the customization features of cm. CM has almost everything most people use. Therefore you would only have to cherry pick a few changes to get the extras you want. They are also all tested to work with each other. Not using cm is making more work for yourself in the long run and will make you end up having a less stable ROM. I think most people were assuming that aosp automatically meant that it would offer the customization of ROMs like codename android did. It doesn't. Pure aosp has nothing but what Google put in until you start cherry picking. Now that people have a better idea of what cm vs aosp entails I think the vote that was held would swing the other way pretty drastically.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Flukester69:
I agree with those comments.