yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Stuphologist:
Did you adjust the settings? Do you have Trickster Mod? You can setup M-Kernel to emphasize performance or endurance or just about any balance in between. But if you're determined to avoid M-Kernel then I recommend trying them all and deciding for yourself. Out of the box Trinity emphasizes performance, and worked very nicely for me. Bricked, Motley's kernel, Lean Kernel, all have been reported to work well.

Dave
[Nexus 7 Original Development] shmega:
Exactly
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Stuphologist:
I'd still vote for AOSP. PA has grown, forging a distinct and strong "AOSPA" identity amazingly fast. It was a CM variant, constrained by being dependent and derivative. Now it's truly peer to CM, and that was necessary for the project, however many CM features may have been "lost". (If the devs want to add features from CM they will, they're not lost so much as not chosen.) CM is what it is, and nobody can take anything away from it or the team developing it. AOSPA is what it is, too, separate and (very) distinct from CM. I, for one, approve.

Dave
[Nexus 7 Original Development] najaboy:
You end your reply with faulty logic. Not using cm as a base in no way, shape, or form makes a given rom any less stable.

CM is by no means the gold standard that some make it out to be and is in a constant state of flux. While it is highly customizable, it has also had its own fair share of bugs. Case in point- were cm to be as thoroughly vetted you surmise, the nightless should be solely focused on adding or enhancing features at this point. Also, and I am not asking this to be facetious (rather, out of curiosity), can you cite any devices that are supported by cm that do not have an aosp rom available?

IIRC (as it's late and using tapatalk to go back to the posts transitioning from 2.54 to 2.99 would prove overly daunting), the devs of PA didn't arbitrarily or capriciously decide to dump the cm base. It was done because there were some systemic issues with cm‘s coding that were cumbersome for them to deal with. Hopefully someone else will provide the direct quote(s).

I'm not bashing cm, as a lot of hard work goes into it- so to with any of the other innovative roms. It is not, however, any better or worse than any other custom rom. It has bugs, just like any other.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] dSlice:
Agreed.

Sent from my AOSPA N7 controlled by Metallice's a29 Kernel.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] shmega:
Consider this, as well. At the time of the voting poll.. Cm development on 4.1 was dramatically slowing down. They were anouncing a stable cm 4.1.2, and everyone knew 4.2 was right around the corner. Now no one knew how long it would take cm to release a 4.2 build (it took quite a long time).. And seeing how pa was based on cm at the time.. We knew we obviously wouldn't see a release from pa until cm released their code branch. Well, I'm just throwing this out there.. That maybe some people, myself included, being the flashohaulics we are and knowing how impatient we can sometimes be, voted a little hastily assuming that if pa transitioned to aosp, we would see more frequent updates.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] aaronpoweruser:
We have decided it will never be included, android handles app killing automatically, if you need to close and app use recents.

it replaces the recents button in the recents screen

Your free to install trebuchet, but know it will break transparent nav bar. We went for aosp because as we added more pa unique features merging up stream cm code became a nightmare. We would spend hours fixing merge conflicts and issues caused from up stream code, not because it was bad but because it was very different from ours. A majority of the cm 10.1 code wouldn't work properly with the aospa 3.0 base as is due to us bringing back tablet ui. Yes there are some cm feature that we need to bring back, to be honest that is my role but I have been super busy moving and starting up school. I'll post my to do list later, but yes not being based on cm makes its harder for porters, but we work with them and it is not hard for anyone who can read code and use git to port to another device. Our code base is cleaner than cm because we don't need to include the hacks required to work with different devices qualcom being the worst, cm does this in the cleanest way possible but it still has compromises
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Stuphologist:
I disagree with just about everything stated here, and entirely with the conclusion. If you like CM, if you think AOSPA is and must remain inferior to CM, then run CM. This isn't CM, it's proto-AOSPA. Anything from CM can be added, but it'll be just that - added to AOSPA as an AOSPA feature, not inherited from CM. By branching at AOSP instead of CM they've gained independence and flexibility while giving up almost nothing of import. Provided, of course, that the dev team is willing to put in the development time, and that people hang in with them while they do it.

Dave
[Nexus 7 Original Development] benhidalgo:
I'm new to AOSPA and so far have a good experience.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] IIIIkoolaidIIII:
I think the one thing everyone seems to be forgetting here that this is beta and an unfinished ROM at present. The PA team has stated time and again that they are concentrating on getting a good solid stable base release for AOSPA 3.0, hence the lack of other non PA based features in these beta's. Once they have a stable AOSPA base they've stated they will then look at adding in additional other non PA features if they feel they will improve the ROM. Though to be honest the fact we have the entire PA framework is really enough customisation for anyone. There are very few features from CM that I miss right now. I think the work they have done so far is awesome and the hybrid options are far superior to they were previously, this is only possible because they're working with AOSP. Using AOSP also gives PA it's own true identity and as the previous cementer stated makes them a true alternative to CM and not a derivative of it, at the end of the day CM is AOSP based too. You also have to remember that CM is nearly as old as Android itself where as PA is barley 1 year old at present, I'm sure in time device support will increase as more developers port it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] GaboWinter:
Quick question guys, It's me or the nav bar don't change of size in the last build by moles? I've tried reseting the interface section on PA Settings, then make my changes, after the reboot it's still at 100%
[Nexus 7 Original Development] IIIIkoolaidIIII:
Just you I think, working fine for me. Did you do a clean or dirty flash? You know it's the percentage slider that adjusts it and not the dpi settings?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace-user:
is the battery icon bug fixed in the latest build? my battery icon shows full when it isnt..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] GaboWinter:
Clean installation and yeah, I adjust it from the "Navigation bar size: 100 %" field"
[Nexus 7 Original Development] blackhand1001:
My issue is that if they had kept the cm base all they really would had to implement is the tab ui and the hybrid settings. Everything else would have already been accomplished by cm which would have made less work for them anyway. I also think adding a launcher settkmgs shortcut in the settings menu like cm has would be a good thing for the aosp base that pa currently has. It goes to the settings menu of the default launcher. It works with trebuchet, nova, apex, and holo launcher and many others. Doing this and bundling trebuchet with the ROM would help a lot. Trebuchet offers customizability of the launcher without having to rely on third party launchers like apex or nova, etc. Its also fully open source unlike the others. Launcher2 which currently comes with the ROM unfortunately offers no customizability at all and is very limited. I know how to install trebuchet manually but having it built in with the settings shortcut would make for a much cleaner experience. It also eliminates the worry of a new update to nova launcher or apex being buggy or breaking something. Trebuchet would only be updated when the ROM is updated.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zaclimon:
Aaron just said it on the other page. It would make too much errors trying to port PA features into the CM code. and just wanted to know, what features you guys wanted really from CM? (As for myself I just find the chronus widget really worthy but I have already installed it into my device)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] IIIIkoolaidIIII:
Agreed the chronus widget is the only thing I'd like from CM currently.

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Yeah know how it works, been using CM longer than most. I personally use Apex. And Aaron just pointed out that it would be far more work to use CM as a base, so it would not be all they had to do in bringing the hybrid engine in. They have to deal with all the issues they previously dealt with. If you want cm features you could use the cm rom you know. Though it would be nice to have the launcher shortcut in settings, though as they ant using a launcher south customisation then it's currently pointless. As I stated in my previous comment though, we're still in the early days of AOSPA, I'm sure we'll seedless of these features once the base is stable.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace-user:
anyone?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] shmega:
So I bought pa preferences pro.. But I don't see anything new.. What am I missing? Also, how do I change bag bar size in tab ui? The indicator is grayed out. And one more question, can I make nav bar transparent in tab ui?

Edit: OK I figured everything out.. Except pa pref pro.. I bought but idk what's included that's new?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] FitAmp:
Fine for me. Not showing 100%

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First (actual) taste of paranoid android on any of my android devices. Loving it completely ! All bugs solved from my last attempt :thumbup:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace-user:
ok it's fine now but the icons are really ugly...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] FitAmp:
Status bar icons?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] shmega:
Is there anyway to set the nav bar transparent in apps like chrome? I went in thru the apps method and set it to transparent in chrome but it doesn't seem to be working. I'm on tab ui btw
[Nexus 7 Original Development] stickus:
Has anyone else had issues with multiple users on this ROM? When I try to setup a second user lately I just get a mess of force closes. Previously it has worked, but there had been some notification bleed through.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sNoxious:
I read few pages ago that someone post a black YouTube app with carousel effect in it, does anyone have it? Thanks!

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S III
[Nexus 7 Original Development] christianlr25:
Okay cool :p the tile for sound is kinda off as well. Just thought I'd let you know.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace-user:
yup...the battery and wifi icons are really ugly...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] change63:
Here you go:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784775
[Nexus 7 Original Development] haha123:
Hi guys. I'm wondering if the "extend desktop" option in the power menu has an activity name. I want to have a shortcut to turn on extend desktop without having to touch the power button (because I find myself constantly in need of an extended desktop).

I have button savior on screen button to go to the homepage so there isn't a problem in going to the homescreen to turn off extend desktop. If anyone has a solution, thanks a lot!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] twk99:
You can make apps launch with extended desktop from paranoid prefs. I use it to make certain games launch with expanded desktop.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] haha123:
thanks, that will help for the time being :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] benhidalgo:
Some apps don't have an exit to home option, so you still need to use the power button.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] kok___kn:
Anyone could tell me - how to switch from double-list menu (f.e. in settings) to single-list?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] federico72:
Is there any possibility to resolve the notification issue on multi user setup? Is still present on pa_grouper-2.99-12JAN2013-130920.zip...

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
No sure what you mean however if your are asking for the tablet ui go in settings, hybrid, and chose one of the 2 tablet ui. This will remove the dropdown menus to a single one at the bottom right.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TigTigerTig:
The Properties tab in the Hybrid Settings. Right now it only shows changes you've made to apps, but it'll get improvements and more features as PA updates.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] coversnail:
Is there a way to change the colour of the clock on the status bar? Changing the icon color works well but with the clock staying blue it looks a little odd. Don't really want to change the theme just for this, just wondering if it was possible?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TigTigerTig:
Will nav bar editing ever allow you to pace apps in it, like AOKP does? Or at maybe custom Navrings? I'd love Chrome and Falcon Pro to always be accessible, personally.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] itslels:
My clock changes with the status bar icons. I'm in phablet ui, but pretty sure they did in tablet ui as well.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] mamba_nz:
Can anyone confirm if you are on tablet mode and set an alarm, it doesn't show on Nav bar? I haven't tried in another mode however.. Or is there something I should do in order to make it work?

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] H-Streety:
Plague is now working! Happy days :D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Saenzscene:
Correct I don't see it in navigation bar but it does show on lock screen.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sk3201:
I set status icon color globally and for Nova to another colour than stock. After reboot, the clock was back to stock color. Pa settings show my color setting. Had to switch it once back and forth in the global section. That fixed it also for nova.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] stickus:
So, no one else has noticed this yet? Am I the only lonely soul to experience this?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] federico72:
No force close for me apart with the theme manager. The only issue I have with multi user setup is with notifications: I can see notifications of the other user on status bar but I can't interact with. Already reported by me and at least another use but unfortunately seems no one is interested in, I understand there are probably just few persons using multi user setup.... All I know is I didn't have this issue with stock rom, no offense for the developers.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sk3201:
What the hell, my batt is reported as full, but its definitely not. Rebooted already...anyone has a tip what I can do?

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[Nexus 7 Original Development] mistermagic87:
I'd also like to see this added if possible.

Just donated via play store.

Thanks for the great rom!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Mac of York:
Which beta are you on? 9.9 fixed that issue... try the latest.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] shmega:
I haven't been on pa in a little while, I think beta 6.. I just came back with the latest release, and I gotta say.. It feels a lot better.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sk3201:
Because I would like to try out multirom, I flashed a new recovery via fast boot. Booted back into pa, fixed:confused:

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ROFLkopter:
Only 'bug' I'm experiencing is my clock vanishing on my home screen with nav bar set to be transparent

Sent From My AOSPA3.+/franco.Kernel Powered Nexus 7 With XDA Premium
[Nexus 7 Original Development] mamba_nz:
Thanks for confirming. Doesn't bother me a whole lot but it was good to know.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] IIIPowerIII:
Awesome rom, thanks :)

I'm using it on all my device.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] GoldElocks:
Can you list the steps you did to get the nav bar transparent please? I did a quick search and tried tinkering myself and setting navbar to 00000000 but can't get it. Thanks

Edit: @ROFLkopter that was directed toward you and supposed to have your post above mine quoted. Thx
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lollyjay:
Love this ROM! My wife has PA on her Nook Color too.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] IIIPowerIII:
Quick question, I've flashed the gapp from first post and I have the gallery app but not camera. Also tried with gnexus gapp, they're newer than the one here.

It didn't fix it either, I can't get my camera back. Its a fresh install, nothing restored.

Thanks
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ROFLkopter:
Install a camera launcher from the Play Store.

Sent From My AOSPA3.+/franco.Kernel Powered Nexus 7 With XDA Premium
[Nexus 7 Original Development] kok___kn:
When I go to the settings, there was a one list menu always. In Paranoid there was two lists, one to choose options, and second with the menu of that option. Is it clear now? :D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] IIIIkoolaidIIII:
Change the settings app to phone ui, rather than phablet or tablet. Though it's a real waste of screen real estate.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ezas:
I know what you mean. I liked the single list but now I'm used to the dual list. I'm guessing you use your N7 mostly in portrait mode. Try it in landscape and you will see how much better it scales. I've started using this I mid-tablet mode and have become a convert from phablet.

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Swyped from my N7

Current: PA 2.99 b9.9 & M-Kernel+ a29
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TigTigerTig:
Settings -> Hybrid Settings -> Apps -> Settings -> Slide the size bar to roughly 213 -> Flick to the Layout/UI tab -> Change 720p to 600p -> Apply.

Settings should look like stock after that.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] hubrisbk:
Goo Manager just popped up with an update, can anyone tell me differences or changelog?

file name - pa_grouper-299-12JAN2013-130920.zip.

current version was up to date before this pop up.

do i need to wipe cache/davlik etc or just run download from Goo manager?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] najaboy:
Read back 24 hours and you'll note that each and every one of your questions had been clearly and concisely answered. The answers are easy to find, even using the Tapatalk app, so no point in rehashing it other than to spoonfeed.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] slick_rick:
Running latest version and it is great. Just one question. Will any launcher settings be added in future builds? As in home screen animations, grid size, app drawer grid, etc. Also bought PA Preferences app. Thanks a lot!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] iGoogleNexus:
Just flashed this ROM... Is there a fix for gtalk video chat? =/

Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] p-slim:
Which gapps are you using?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] iGoogleNexus:
The ones that op posted =/ next to the ROM download =/

Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TigTigerTig:
Just download either Apex or Nova Launcher (I'd personally recommend Apex) and you'll have all that now.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] p-slim:
You need the 1/8/13 gapps. Sorry I don't have the link now
[Nexus 7 Original Development] iGoogleNexus:
=/ meh

Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] B3rt0:
there you go :

pa-gapps 1/8/2013
[Nexus 7 Original Development] iGoogleNexus:
=D ahhhh appreciate it!!!

Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] y0brando:
Long time lurker; occasional poster. Recently bumped up from 2.54PA Cm to 2.99b9.9. I enjoy tinkering with my PA N7 and figuring out stuff on my own. I supplement what's missing by READING instead of instant-gratifyingly posting a question that's been beat FUBAR.

Please people, read before you dive into something that *might* be over your head. If you're not willing to put in the effort to troubleshoot your own problems, then maybe stock suits you best.

Side note: been on PA since maybe 1.9. Bought the PA prefs app. Keep up the banging work to the whole PA crew!! Big up!!:thumbup:

sent secretly from my paranoid 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] slick_rick:
I'd rather not lose any PA Color functionality unless those work fine with that also?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sk3201:
Coming back to this after some more reboots, I noticed I do not have to change something, but it takes a while until the blue clock disappear and my color set is active. Don't know exactly what's the trigger. :(

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
Apex works fine with PA.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Allosaur:
You don't. PA colours work well on nova and apex.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] SB13X:
Hi guys,

Before any lambasts me for not "using the search function" I'd love to but I'm at work for another 10 hours on a non Java enabled browser and therefore search won't work. I tried using Google but nothing materialised. (Now I have the boring bit out the way).

I flashed PA last night and while tinkering this morning I decided to add some Lockscreen widgets. All I keep getting when tapping the plus symbol is an error though saying "Settings has stopped" and it unlocks.

I changed to Tablet UI and changed a couple apps but then reverted everything back to stock phablet in case that was my issue. Still get error.

Thought it might be my theme so changed back to stock theme. Still get error.

I did not restore anything with Titanium Backup all installed fresh from Play Store restore.

Installed clean with factory reset and wiping everything but data through TWRP and have the 20130108 GAPPS installed and 2.99pa ROM

Another question too while I am here... where on gods green earth is the developer options menu to turn on USB Debugging?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] hopscotchjunkie:
Settings > About Tablet > Click on 'Build Number' 7 times, and the Developer Options menu will be enabled.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace-user:
my nav bar icon take a little longer to show up after unlocking the screen...does anyone experiencing this too??
[Nexus 7 Original Development] SB13X:
Epic response thanks :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] :
Which build did you install? I had the same issue and the following build fixed it, among others: http://goo.im/devs/paranoidandroid/roms/grouper/pa_grouper-2.99-12JAN2013-130920.zip
[Nexus 7 Original Development] SB13X:
Ahh had older build downloaded to card I used a bookmarked link to download from. Missed this. Thankyou muchly :D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] porkovich:
I want to report a bug i have with all the latest beta roms. (i have dirt flashed the latest one, but the problem was there even when i flash clean). When i plug my headphones and decide to raise the volume UP all applications begin to crash, launcher, browser. To prevent that i need to push Vol DOWN buton first than all is ok. This ocure only once, after the tablet is rebooted. Any ideas ? i can try a clen install of the latest Rom, but i want to wait for the final 3.0 , just tired of install/Wipe-ing all again and again :)