yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] eatonjb:
I would say Widget locker, and some widgets.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jebise101:
no ruins the swipe lock then and all its features. I was actually looking for a way to get the controls on the swipe lock. It so dam annoying :crying:. Samsung always messes up the lockscreen on all there devices.

My first Galaxy S and SII both had music control on the lock screen but when you enabled security you would then loose "swipe lockscreen" and just be prompted with the security screen. With the S3 since they added the swipe lockscreen on top of the security screen I was hoping for native music controls but they messed up again. Seems like the reason is because the notification bar can be accessed from the swipe lockscreen so no need to clutter the lockcreen but of course it does not work when you enable security.

PowerAmp is actually not bad and the ICS lockscreen works well its still annoying you have to get to the ICS security lockscreen before a track can be changed, main reason i wanted it on the swipe screen was while driving in a car.

This is a major feature for me and was actually the sole reason why i returned the S2 for the hTC Raider and kinda hoped they sorted it out by now.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] eatonjb:
Try "Notification Toggle" since ICS and JB let you use the pull down even when locked (not sure about that if there is a lock code/pattern. but its quick and works pretty well.

i just have the FF/REW/Pause-Play .. works great!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jebise101:
this?

You can pull the notification bar down by default anyways if you don't have security. The point here is to pull down with security.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] XXtremeAzzKicker:
My music controls work as long as I use pattern or face unlock.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jebise101:
seems you are using google music am i correct?

Also stock ROM?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] XXtremeAzzKicker:
Yep
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
Hi guys.

Obviously I am new, and noob so this might sound silly, but is it worth rooting?

I mean, I have been having stock Desire Z for, I dunno, almost 2 years, and it's been working perfectly, but since HTC and Google are moving on, leaving me on 2.3 and without any new updates, I was thinking of moving on on my own.

The thing is, I am as noob at rooting as I am in here, and bricking scares the **** out of me. Also, I don't know what ROM to chose, if that is the only thing to chose after rooting. I've stumbled upon cyanogen mod, and there are quite detailed step-by-step description on how to downgrade/root/install CM7, but CM7 looks like crap - I don't like it really.

I do like this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1546915http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1546915 thou,, but since it's still beta, I don't want to end up with half working phone when I need it the most.

So, should I go for it, or stick with my guns?

and thx for replying or even reading :good:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kbeezie:
I can't really comment on Sense roms (never cared for them, too bloated in my opinion). But I would prefer either Mimicry 1.3.1 or EliteMod ICS (which I'm using now), in regards to ICS (4.0.*).

Far as guides. Some like the Cyanogenmod one can be 'easier' to read, but the XDA wiki has a lot more information.

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Vision

Since you're on gingerbread now you would go the Desire-Z Gingerbread route for unlocking/exploit before proceeding to root it. (but on the plus side sticking with a Desire-Z hboot will ensure your /system size is big enough to play with the Sense roms).

With ICS some things to keep in mind is that the most common issues tend to be :

1) Camera isn't "fully" working, in some cases like on mimicry and elitemod (or other non-Sense ICS roms), you can take a picture, you can record a video, but usually only with the stock camera app and usually won't have features like 720p recording or special effects.

2) Graphical glitch with the text can happen on an app, although rarely occurs, is easily fixed by closing the app or restarting (tends to stay with one app when it happens).

Those are probably the two most common issue you'll see with just bout every ICS rom out there for DZ/G2.

By the way some of the Sense roms are incorporating the 3.0 kernel from the Virtuous Infinity Preview (Full Sense 4.0), as such they're getting a decent camera with filters, but course there are still some bugs. (Previously Sense 4.0 roms had no camera functionality at all).

Edit

To clarify, even if you use the CM Wiki to unlock/root you do not have to install Cyanogenmod 7.2 afterwards, you can pretty much install any compatible rom once you've gotten it unlocked and running with a custom recovery (though I prefer 4EXT over clockworkmod).
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jumptoin:
I am sure it is worth ... i was just like u ..satisfied with my GB but i was so curious and so on so i followed this guide: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting and now iam rooted at the moment iam running Elite ROM ice cream sandwich and its ********* fast .... when you have root and you try new rom you will never want to stop :D of course there are some risks but I think that if you will have any kind of problem here on XDA is so many great people willing to help you ... my advice is to do it :) go step by step according to that guide and if you dont understand something just ask here on xda :) Best of luck....
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demkantor:
back in the g1 days a friend of mine rooted his, i was astonished what could be done to phones now adays. i quickly rooted my g1 and began learning a ton about everything mobile, just like many before and after me i was hooked. even if you never found a better rom than stock the learning process is well worth it. even if you dont use most of the new features available to you at least having them is worth it. and unless you dont research/read first, or are mostly stupid/have bad luck, you wont brick your phone. i have rooted 50~60 phones and tablets, maybe more and never had a hard brick, sure when i first started out there was some close calls but with a little common sense you will be fine, also know you are now part a large community eager to help

so follow the xda or cyanogen wiki and downgrade and root your phone, move on to the rom compilation (found in the developers thread here) try a few roms and see what you prefer. you will be happy you did

on and one last point; the best reason to root your phone right when you get it, if there ever is a problem it is much easier to fix a rooted phone with software/firmware problems then an unrooted one. the only drawback could be if you need to send it back for warranty... but how likely is that, and the phone you have now im sure has little/no warranty left

happy flashing!

follow kbeeize's advice on how to root and try a few roms out
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kbeezie:
PS: One of the major advantages of having a custom recovery, is the ability to perform a backup of your currently installed rom. If you screw something up, you need only go back into recovery Wipe (factory-reset/cache/etc) and restore the backup to get right back to where you were. And you can have several backups too if you were trying out several different roms.

So basically the process of rooting/unlocking offers a safety net once you're up and running, be it in the recovery , or apps like Titanium Backup. Getting there is mainly the intimidating part.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
So you would recommend EliteMod & Cyanogen guide for starters?

Uhhh... What?:confused:

I can deal with that. Really, camera for me is one of the most useless apps. So stock app will do just fine :)

So, rooting won't delete everything from my phone, it will just be unlocked, so I could install some ROM apps that would do the rest of the work for me?

Is changing ROM deleting all my apps, messages etc., and is it doing so every time I change it. I've spent quite a lot of time and care to set the whole thing up, so I don't thing I would swap the ROMs so easily as you say :)

THX! :good:

So it's like making an image file of the whole windows OS with all the programs preinstalled and restoring it when things go bust?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kbeezie:
EliteMod ICS isn't really for everyone, something like Andromadus Mimicry would be an easier start if you wanted ICS.

The T-Mobile G2 hboot (0.76.200) has a /system of ~400MB, /cache of ~200MB and /data of ~1.3GB, but 400MB is not big enough for a Sense rom. So if you were following the cyanogenmod wiki for exploiting/rooting, you would need the Desire-Z Engineering hboot (0.84.2000) which has a /system of ~550MB, /cache ~300MB, /data 1GB. Otherwise you would have to avoid Sense roms or roms that say you need a DesireZ hboot.

Since you said you had a Desire-Z you may not even run across that issue.

Then that's all good then.

Depends on how you root, and if your phone needs to be downgraded/exploited. Which most of the time it does (i.e.: to get ENG S-OFF), which will of course erase the existing data on the phone so backups is suggested.

That's where root tools like Titanium Backup come in very handy. You can flash a band new rom, open up Titanium Backup, and then restore all your apps along with their settings/etc.

Normally once you get an initial rom setup, you can do a backup in recovery. If things go bust, you just reboot into recovery, wipe/factory-reset and then restore from the backup which will put the phone at the exact same state as you backed it up.

But yea I guess it's kind of like taking a Ghost image of your hard drive, which is stored on the SD Card at /clockworkmod/backup
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
Right, enough courage; time to get cracking.

I will go process by process, slowly following this: wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Vision

If I get stuck, all my hopes are on you guys.

Wish me luck :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
All the Best...

p.s.: take your time and better take notes of steps. It would help in bringing clarity. And make sure to copy your commands and outputs from ADB to a notepad. It would be of help if, God forbid, anything goes wrong. If you have already downloaded and setup the ADB, just try the msm_rotator command (adb shell cat /dev/msm_rotator). If you get following output, you are ready to go: /dev/msm_rotator: invalid length
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] firthmj:
Hi,

Another Android rooting NOOB, but experienced with Linux, including embedded (that's the day job :))

Looking to root my HTC Desire Z, as is being discussed here.

From all the threads, it seems you have to downgrade to a very old stock ROM before starting. Several talk about being able to take a backup from Clockwork Recovery after you've rooted the phone in case things go wrong, but obviously by then the existing phone build will be gone.

What I'd really like to be able to do is to take a full backup of the stock Gingerbread setup I've currently got, so that if either (a) things go wrong or (b) I don't like the end result I can get back to where I am now.

None of the threads I've found so far (here, here, here and possibly others, I've been surfing around a lot the last couple of days!) talk about any way of doing this, some talk about using Titanium Backup or MyBackup Root to backup Apps, Call Data, SMS logs etc, but these presumably aren't a full OS backup.

Is there a relatively easy way of doing this from the fre3vo temporary root? Presumably 'dd' against the various /dev/block/mmcXXXX partitions will get most (all?) of the data? Are there sections that aren't available from Android device files as root?

One more (hopefully minor) thing - having worked down the start of this downgrade thread[URL], for now I've skipped the "Changing Version Number to Allow Downgrade and Gaining SuperCID with a Goldcard" section and tried the "Temp-Rooting to Backup" section (from my understanding of these two sections, I don't think anything from the section I skipped is relied upon in the backup section). I seem to find that the /system/bin/su file keeps getting corrupted or deleted. Is this HTC trying to stop me doing this, or is it one of the applications (SuperUser?) trying to protect the file and getting it wrong? In case it's making a difference, I also have Better Terminal Emulator Pro installed, which I'm using the "bash" from for some of the steps, as it has proper Linux auto-complete etc. which makes life easier.

I think I've managed to make a usable backup with MyBackup Root, but obviously can't easily test this without going further.

I'd really like to be as sure as possible that I can get back to where I am now before I start the downgrade to Froyo process...

Thanks in advance for any advice on this

Michael
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
I am worhtless.

Right now I am downgrading GB folowing CGmod guide wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Firmware_Downgrade_(Gingerbread), and I am stuch at step 6. On the computer, open terminal and run the following commands:

Erm, what terminal????

btw, I extracted and copied the downloaded files into ADB install folder. That is the right one?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jumptoin:
what terminal ? .... u just click start run and type in "cmd" ,,, or find command promt
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
says: adb is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

I am sorry to bother you, but I would be very grateful :(
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demkantor:
so you downloaded adb from the sdk package right? you need to either change directories in cmd or change the path in enviromental variables

easiest thing to do would be hold shift and right click in the folder adb and files are in and choose open command here. then the path is chosen

also make sure debugging is turned on (in phone)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
did as you said but still the same problem: adb is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

If only I could post screenshots here for you to see what exactly am I doing (wrong)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demkantor:
what does it say when you open the cmd?

C:/user......?

is that the folder adb.exe is in?

are you using windows 7, vista, xp? mac, linux?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
I have ADV Manager.exe and SDK Manager.exe

No adb.exe :confused:

This is what I have downloaded and installed developer.android.com/sdk/index.html

(Win7)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demkantor:
ok, you may need to open sdk and download adb from there, otherwise you can check if you did without knowing it. go to your harddrive (C) and see if there is an android folder or android sdk or something like that, look for I think platform tools in there and see if there is a program called adb

if you can't find this try search in computer

or just open the sdk manager and download the tools in the first chunk, specifically platform tools
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Hi StipeP,

Hope by now you would have install ADB properly. There is some guides on ADB also. They are worth reading. I never jumped straight to rooting but first made myself a bit comfortable with ADB. I suggest you go the log way and add ADB to your 'environmental variables' in windows. Or as suggested by demkantor, use shift and right click to start adb from whatever folder you are. But the first method is preferable. There is a guide: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=879701 .

When you are able to run ADB, connect your device with pc using data cable (I assume you have enabled usb debugging already). Try this command: adb devices It should return the list of devices connected with the pc by adb. Since you have connected your desire z, it should show your device's serial number. If it is the case, your adb is good to go. :)

p.s.: I still suggest, don't jump. be patient and read a bit. You can use following from strawmetal: http://strawmetal.minus.com/ here you should download DZ-G2 Downgrade-Rooting Tools. He has made good effort to collect all the tools and instructions at one place (in fact, he has just followed XDA-wiki).
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Android Manual:
1 word

update!

lol :d
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Hey StipeP!,

any news on rooting front!:cool:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
Gathering knowledge first. No point head-butting through this without any clue of what is going on.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demkantor:
good call, there are tons of threads on xda here about this, probably any question you can think of has been asked

if you read through the xda wiki, the cyanogen wiki, and strawmetals pdf guide (these are more or less all the same but the best way to go about it) you will see how easy this process really is, even for a novice

also check out frenode #g2root (just google it) and you will see there are loads of people there ready to give real time help

good luck!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Good to hear StipeP that you are now reading about it. This long way always pays. I think this is the real spirit behind all these guides at XDA otherwise all these devs could have said, "ok, I'll do it for you!". They want us to learn also.

Hope to hear soon that you rooted it successfully. Wish you a happy journey to the wonderful world of rooting :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
First problem. I got the ADB working, and now I am following xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1178912 guide to downgrade, but I after running command > adb push flashgc /data/local/tmp/flashgc I get cannot stat 'flashgc': No such file or directory.

What next?

Copied .zip files and extracted them again - worked! Nevermind, moving on :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jumptoin:
You have to use cd command to get to folder where those files are ...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Hi StipeP,

Hope you are done by now! finished rooting or in process?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
ROOTED !!!!!!

Wooohoooooooooooo

Thank you guys. Thou now I need an ICS ROM. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Greattttttttttttt

Welcome to the Family StipeP! :cowboy:

I suggest first have a daily driver and make a backup of it in sd card by using ClockworkMod recovery and then try as many ROMs as you like. You can always revert back to the backup if need comes. Since July 12, I, usually shift to 2 Roms (and sometimes 3/4) daily. EliteMod 120316 is an excellent ROM for daily driver. everything working there :)

---------- Post added at 05:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:40 PM ----------

and for ROMs, visit G2 and Desire Z Android Development page at the XDA. You will find links to latest ROMs here. Reading others comments/experiences on these ROMs also helps. :cool:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
Hold on... first I have to get to know this ClockworkMod, and What am I supossed to do with this froyo I am stuck with right now?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Power off you mobile and power on again while holding the 'Volume down' key. you will reach a white screen where among other options, there would be 'Recovery'. navigate to it using volume button and then choose it by pressing the power on/off button. you'll reach clockworkmod recovery. you would have already installed it while rooting :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
I downloaded IceCreamSensewich, copied it do SD card, booted recovery, selected - instal form zip file, and now I only have Clockwork mod logo, nothing seems to be happening. Am I doing something wrong?:confused:

:D my bad :) Found it. Trackpad confirms menu selection
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PNuT.:
yes, use the trackpad to select the install from zip file NOT the power button
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
StipeP,

once you are in clockworkmod recovery, power button would not act as a chooser but the track pad will. volume key for navigation. power button can be used though to go back to main menu of cwm recovery. Hope by now you are tasting the ice cream sandwich :D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
Not quite. Instaled ICSenswich, but there is a loading tab that stays forever just after lock screen.

Downloading QuadraSence ATM.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PNuT.:
makesure you do all the wiping of user data & caches before installing new roms
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demkantor:
also that is a sense rom, if you have the g2 hboot it won't work, you need the dz hboot

boot into bootloader (power on holding volume down)

write down everything here, this will tell you if you have true soff, what spl/hboot you have, what radio etc
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
I have DZ, and right now ICSenswich instaled. Booted it again and works fine.

Thank you a million times I guess! :D :good::good::good::good:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StipeP:
One more thing. Sesnewich can be quite slow on DZ. Nothing strange thou. So I am thinking of changing the ROM, but I have no clue what is good or not, I better ask you guys.

Looking for something nice, stable and fast (ICS). No need for uber-programing options, just so that it works great.

PS. If I swap ROM, again all is deleted, and I have to restore it from the backup? And then set it up all?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kbeezie:
Ps: 4EXT touch recovery is going to be far more useful than clockworkmod especially in the realm of ICS and JB roms particularly in the ability to convert or format partitions to ext4 instead of ext3.

Far as your apps on new roms: titanium backup works wonders, can backup and restore apps with the settings intact.

Restoring old rom onto new especially if different type of rom will pretty much break everything. (thus why you wipe everything before flashing a new rom or restore an old one as not to blindly mix email up, you use tools like titanium backup to restore some settings, apps+data etc, and recovery to restore full system images)

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pjflo:
Links:

CyanogenMod: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/

Morfic, Trinity: http://www.derkernel.com/

You guys are great!

Mods:

Trebuchet for Brass. adds CM10 launcher.

------------------------- Mirror----------------------------

Here is another mirror for B2 - http://www.filefactory.com/file/4pgwm6froxzh

Mirror for B3 - http://www.filefactory.com/file/6qzzjpj4fqt7/n/maguro_BrassDroid_B3_zip
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] simms22:
very nice :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sam razzy:
U have double posted instead of reserving for future... lol.. :D Double time OP :P

SeNt frOm gOOglE NeXuS with BAMF v2.0 jelly taste
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pjflo:
Sorry, I think a mod must have edited my post, as you can see the double posts are time stamped 8.00pm

However my account forces me to wait five minutes between posts.. could a mod sort this out please!?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pjflo:
I am currently building the toro and toroplus versions of this ROM.

Not having access to either of these devices I am doing this blind.

If someone is willing to test the builds for me please drop a PM.

Thanks PjFlo.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DeeToTheVee:
Very Nice

Flashed the new build today and it's very stable. Trinity works well with it, I'll PM you about collaboration if you like?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pjflo:
Thank you for taking the time to comment :)