yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] warh34d:
Hi there. Awesome work with PIE. I've taken some classes on UX at college and I thought I should chip in my 2 cents. (That is until I have enough cash balance in my credit card to actually buy your prefs app).

I'm sorry if any of those have been posted before. It's just my first impression of a rather unique and intuitive navigation model and I would like to see become the best it can be.

1. Can we get the option to enable the notification bar when in expanded mode? I found that when reading for long periods of time (which is probably the main use of this tablet for many of us) I could miss some notifications or notice them and then forget about them. And since we have no LED light to remind us that we have new notifications the response time gets worse.

2. I would propose to put the option to enable the expanded mode/PIE in the circle that appears when you long press the home button(the one with the Google Now button). In that way the user would be able to get to expanded mode using nothing but gestures, taking the physical buttons out of play altogether. I think it was AOKP that first used that circle for custom shortcuts so I know it's possible. And maybe use a button at the top of the screen when in PIE to exit the expanded mode, so that when a user drags his finger to the top of the screen, he gets back to normal mode without PIE.

3. I love that you've put a way to actually access the notification bar and quick settings toggles from the PIE. The thing is that all the space gets wasted because they use up the whole screen and they appear at the top of the screen, whereas the user's hand is still at the bottom of the screen. Could you use the notification tray and quick settings from the old tablet mode for that? That would be so much more awesome!

4. I know that animations play a huge part in giving the user a more coherent experience. But I noticed that in this case they can actually impede or slow down the user. Especially when the color of the navbar is changing or when the notification bar/quick settings is called. Could we make them faster or just have the option to disable them?

Once again, congrats on an awesome job and please don't stop coding for us! If I had the time I would try to more actively co-operate with you with some coding but I can't right now. I hope you find my comment helpful and not just a useless criticism.. :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] GaboWinter:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

EDIT: Wrong thread, sorry Aaron.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] warh34d:
OK awesome. Which thread are we talking about?

---------- Post added at 02:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:58 AM ----------

Oh you meant one of the other Nexus devices.. OK got it.. I'll post it on the N4 thread.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Pirateghost:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

What are you on about? Aaron is one of the members of PA and this is the nexus 7 thread
[Nexus 7 Original Development] GaboWinter:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

LOL definitely lost this afternoon, I thought this was posted on the I9100 thread, was my mistake, I know about Aaron.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] najaboy:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

Given that it exists only on 3.1 and is not present on 2, using the same gapps with the same browser settings... it's a rom issue, but not one that, to me at least, is a deal breaker. I rarely use it in lieu of Bitcasa anymore.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] dailydR1ver:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

I'm switching from an older version of PA on my N7 to this version on my N4 and I haven't been on the boards in a while...

Are there any plans on implementing or reasons why they aren't included:

1) long press back to kill process

2) quiet hours in sound settings

3) screenshot option in the power button menu

4) cursor scrolling with hardware volume buttons
[Nexus 7 Original Development] N@th_OC:
Because those function was taken from cm when it was still used as a base.

Know PA is built from AOSP so all CM stuffs are no more here.

And it's much better. They certainly will implement some CM mods but not like before.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] beanaroo:
Some thoughts on 2.99PIE3

Hey guys,

Was caught by the PA hype and noticed the amazing PIE developments on a G+ post.

I really really like the hybrid mode possibilities!!! Even better do I like... no, ADORE the PIE interface with expanded desktop. They really took LMT launcher to a whole new level.

Unfortunately the deal breaker for me is the lack of customizablity of the launcher/home screens, especially after experiencing SGT7. I have also fell in love with CM's Chronus.

If I had the skill, I would combine the PIE with the SGT7 rom, but that's just dreaming. Turns out I do

I am still blown away by the project. :D

---UPDATE---

I solved my issues... don't know if this is allowed, but, I extracted the modified Trebuchet as well as CMFileManager from SGT7 and inserted them in /system/app via adb shell then I downloaded Chronus and installed it. NOW we're in business with PA :D

I have attached some screens to show off the features cdesai added to CM's launcher Trebuchet. Great scalability with crisp stock Android feel. And now a cool new PIE control.

Also attached is a flashable aroma script for adding either the launcher, CM file manager or Chronus to your PA. If anybody wants. ;)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] mustbepbs:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

So can you not use a custom launcher with PIE? Are you limited to the launcher it comes with? So I couldn't use Nova if I wanted to use PIE?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] davisac:
Install Nova or Apex and get Chronos here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2078205

---------- Post added at 09:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:29 PM ----------

No you can use Nova no problem,
[Nexus 7 Original Development] FitAmp:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

Any launcher will work :p I use apex pro
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace-user:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

guys...i enable per app colour and changed my nav icon colour to FF33B5E5..everything works great but the problem is when i enter the app drawer, the icon change back to plain white..in the homescreen it works fine though...any fix on this?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sparkerjc:
Change the global color, not per app color
[Nexus 7 Original Development] altimax98:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

Agreed lol... I didn't think anyone used the stock/cm launcher anymore...

On a side note, on the Nexus7 if your having a lot of app incompatibility issues try switching to the stock interface. Even with PIE the apps work. Netflix, IMDB and a few others all were broken/crashed but going to the stock 213 interface fixed it...

Although Gunslugs is still broke :(

1 thing I wish was fixed, but I don't know if it is possible. Because of PIE there is a <20 pixel buffer on the active edges. With that buffer it makes using the keyboard, especially in the Galaxy Nexus annoyingly difficult because you hit that dead space when hitting space bar or P or Q. Maybe placing the keyboard over the PIE activation area would be a fix, if its possible..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace-user:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

ya..that's what i did...but i have to enable per app color too which is under global color..if i didnt the nav bar icon color wont change...it wont just stick to stock white even if he change in to blue..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] edisepic:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

Amazon app store is no longer working after recent update
[Nexus 7 Original Development] s1l3nt:
same here. I was going crazy trying to figure out why it wasn't working.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] filipathtc:
AW: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

I know it just keeps loading forever.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] cubexg:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

Report the same thing here - 3g version.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace-user:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

can someone help?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] salter83:
Someone did help..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace-user:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

as i said..if i dont enable per app color(which is under global color), when i change the nav bar button color the change wont stick..it does nothing..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] klefreak:
AW: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

I have same thing with Google currents, shows news pages but no Text

Delet APP cache did not help

Using newest pie 3.1
[Nexus 7 Original Development] mikkijp:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

amazon app has same issue too
[Nexus 7 Original Development] beanaroo:
I also miss not having those options. Looking forward to see what comes next :)

Thank you, but I found a way to use the SGT7's launcher and Chronus. Added flashable zip to my previous post.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] salter83:
My bad, sorry :3
[Nexus 7 Original Development] S3tArtist:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

Same here, loading forever...

sent from PAranoid Nexus 7 powered by M-kernel
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace-user:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

so it's there a fix?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lxxs:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

Same problem :s
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace-user:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

it's kinda annoying isnt it? :(
[Nexus 7 Original Development] xord:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

Same prob with flipboard
[Nexus 7 Original Development] mamba_nz:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

Flipboard works for me, currents don't.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] robertm2011:
Really??? ...I must admit that at first, I missed the menu button, I was almost ready to flash back to the rom that I was using previously...but I am slowly learning to adapt to lack of the menu button on the navigation bar, and am finding alternate methods of accessing each app's menu... If an old guy like me can figure this out, come on, the rest of you shouldn't have any problem with this....

just my two cents...

I almost forgot to add, this is a great piece of work, congratulations and many thanks for getting this out so quickly, Moles!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] brizey:
It's not gone...just long press the recent apps...that is why it looks like both.

And I am an old fart, too.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DJLamontagneIII:
I agree you definitely get use to it an now i much rather have it as is than another button just wasting space... keep up the great work moles :beer:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
Um, yeah its not gone of course. If i intended to kill it why putting three dots inside the recents button? :P longpress = menu, tap = recents.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
So do i need to edit dpi for every app back to stock dpi?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DJLamontagneIII:
There all set to 213.. you can edit them from there by lower the DPI and or setting the mode tablet, phablet ,phone
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
no, thats tablet mode speak. tablet mode used to pull all your apps into shrinking hell, forcing them all into one UI layout. PA is different. very different in fact. you can define single apps (or a whole bunch, IF you want, like all system apps or all user apps into this and that dpi or this and that UI mode). "tablet mode" does not exist anymore with this rom, you treat the app called systemUI, whose job it is to project these bars above and below, in the same way you treat any other app. you set it to a UI mode and to a size. it will react and display accordingly. for instance it will give up the statusbar and display a combined version below if you set it to tabUI. but all your apps will still run in whatever mode you prefer. same goes for the speed dial preferences, these simply change how these bars look and feel. so just because you tap "phone" for instance wont mean that your beloved 2 column gmail client will now be forced into a horrible 1 colum view, and in the same way, just because you choose "tablet" wont mean that chrome will display in its awful tab layout, which is nothing compared to its nice phoneUI. alright? ;)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] OgremustCrush:
I dig this rom so far. Was lazy and did a dirty flash to it and haven't noticed any issues so far (was already on a cm10 base though.)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
Well i flashed, and i love it, thanks a million.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] xastey:
Just flashed and first think I notices was a new keyboard...so far so good .. one thing I missed was landscape mode on home screen from Jr rom.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DJLamontagneIII:
Just use apex or nova launcher and you can have landscape mode and more grid options
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Metallice:
Any chance we'll be able to set the per app DPI down to 160 in the future? As of now I can't get Google reader to go into dual panel view.

Even so, Great work man! Thank you!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] SS2006:
before I flash I wanted to ask you guys; anything not working? any issues? are all market apps still showing etc
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DJLamontagneIII:
I've been using it all day and only issue I've found was expanded desktop doesn't work but very good otherwise
[Nexus 7 Original Development] xastey:
Thanks will check them out
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Holyoblation:
Nice ROM. Sorry awesome ROM.

OK what kernel should I use to over clock? Tried flashing one ended up boot looping.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DJLamontagneIII:
I'm using Motleys kernel and no issues
[Nexus 7 Original Development] rockky:
Hi...this is exciting.

One thing I love on Paul Obriens Rom is the navigation and search buttons on the side of the screen in landscape mode...makes surfing ergonomics superb.

Any chance of this on PA?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] brizey:
+1 Using 1.0.8 build 77 with no issues.

I have to say it again...this is freaking incredible for a blind-built ROM. Working themes and everything.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] leelaa:
Whats better, tablet small or tablet big, in paranoid settings?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] blackhand1001:
Downloading es time manager and looking through the folder manually seems get the gallery to find them. Nice it finds one picture it will find the rest on its own.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DualSportDad:
I can see my downloaded pic but not the ones synced with Google, like Google+ and picasa photos. Even when going into the gallery and trying to font settings it missing. So for some this isn't true on 1.98?

Ive been on 1.95 and everything was working fine. Restored back for now.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zimphishmonger:
Bug in the lastest Gapps.

Anyone else having stability issues? Ive has two restarts while playing Shadowgun HD. Using trinity, but stock settings (no oc, uv, etc).
[Nexus 7 Original Development] neilrl79:
I've had my tablet shut itself down a couple times but I'm also using the trinity kernel alpha63d, so that could be cause.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] frewys:
version "pa_grouper-1.99-12AUG2012-170142.zip" is there in goo.im! But Only 55MB unless you sir are a master of zipping my guess is that something wonderful is uploading right now...

Edit: YES! it is now 72.5MB so little by little it is coming our way!!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] dadoc04:
^ its done now

edit... maybe not
[Nexus 7 Original Development] CharliesTheMan:
I've had to do this before on some other devices and on the 7, once I open a pic in the gallery with root explorer and then when I reboot, they are loaded in the gallery.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] cookie666:
Let me know how it goes ;) So far I dont think we have had a rom that didnt need a fix!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ragnarokx:
It's been downloaded over 60 times - anyone care to give some feedback?

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] apascual89:
This build, according to what Moles said, was basically 1.98 plus the fix. Now its also included in the compatible ROMs part of goo manager. That means that we will get notifications for updates and gapps updates.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TahrirSquare:
I uploaded the new build 1.99 to mediafire mirror incase Goo goes down again

http://www.mediafire.com/?bhkc36n7q3bidp6
[Nexus 7 Original Development] MyronJ906:
A quick question as I wipe/flash this update. Am I the only person getting significantly inferior battery life on Paranoid Android when compared to other ROMS?

I have been around long enough to know that battery life depends greatly on the individual and their particular setup, so I am definitely not blaming the ROM (especially since I love it) that's why I am asking if it is seriously just me.

I have been using PA for quite some time and can't remember what the battery was like in the beginning. However, I know that over the last week I have been LUCKY to get 5 hours screen time out of it. I tried Team EOS yesterday and got the 7.5 hours that I had come to expect. Pretty much the same usage.

In most updates, I don't think I did a full wipe. This time, I did to see if I get better results.

Haha, I guess I typed a novel for a simple question.

tl;dr Not looking for tips on improving battery, or how to check for battery drain (I'm familiar with that) just want to know if people are getting 6.5 - 7 hrs screen on time with PA?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] hoosbude:
Yes it's NTFS due to the size restriction of fat32. Can you suggest a kernel? Just seems strange that it will not write but will if I use a third party app like "USB Mass Storage Watcher OTG". I'd prefer not to use that as it mounts slower than a pensioner trying to get some loving from a hooker.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
CM has merged trebuchet. treb can rotate if you set it up.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
that has to do with the gapps that you downloaded. some can do it, some dont. its too early for stable packages right now.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] molesarecoming:
i think rom has not much to do with battery, unless of course it disregards gogles bugfixes. not sure about the version you run but the new pa is based on 4.1.1 r4. google is the one doing the hard work, most of it being lowlevel. romcooks fiddle around a little and put some tweaks here and there, deodex yaddayadda but if any of it really makes SUCH a difference i'd be surprised. more impact on the other hand has the kernel. biggest impact of all is your circumstance. if you live in an arrea where a good signal is sparse you will never have good bat time, whatever you try.

that being said, i dont own my nex7 yet - but its the same code that makes my nexus survive days, it would be weird if it were any different for the 7.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] MyronJ906:
That is precisely the reason I asked, actually. ROM typically has little bearing. However, I use the exact same kernels and setup regardless of my ROM. On prior Paranoid Android builds my MediaScanner (not server) seemed to act up. Hopefully my wipe and flash of 1.99 will fox that. I am fairly certain it IS something on my end, but the ROM (and wipe to go to EOS) was my only change. Presumably something got corrupted in my many PA updates (hence Media Scanner) and the wipe is the fix.

Just wanted to draw attention to it just in case. I've tried Faux, Trinity, and Motley across EOS builds, Jelly Bro, and PA. PA was the only one I ever ran into issues with. I know for sure 1.97 but can't necessarily speak for 1.95 or 1.96 as I was ROM hopping ,ore frequently before 1.97

Thank you for your advice and assistance, but thanks most of all for such a pleasing and customizable ROM. The time you put into it results in wonders.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Andrew025:
I just had a reboot while playing shadow gun as well.

I'm using whatever kernel that's supplied with PA.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] hoosbude:
USB Storage issue

As suggested by cookie666 I upgraded my kernel to http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1804374 as this features NTFS read/write

I am still unable to write to my NTFS drive, is this a rom issue or is there a setting I'm missing somewhere?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] DualSportDad:
Thanks guys. When ibflashed the rom I flashed the same gapps I used from when I flashed 1.95.

I'll give the new gapps a shot tho. Perhaps I'm flashing it wrong? I clear cache and dalvik flash the rom, the fix, gapps and clear cache and dalvik again, reboot. Is that acceptable?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Dajinn:
Does this ROM offer advanced settings so that you can change the power controls/toggles on the status bar when you flip your notifications over to it?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] uberbania:
For statusbar toggles, I use Power Toggles

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc&hl=en

For the stock 4.2.1 Tiles, you can customize which tiles you have as well as how they are laid out.

EDIT: Customize Tiles by going to:

Settings --> Toolbars --> Custom Tiles
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Dajinn:
Where do you customize the tiles?

edit: i found it, thanks!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace9988:
Loving the pie...not loving the fact that I have to keep renabling expanded desktop. It's starting to get annoying
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lollyjay:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

And why do you have to keep enabling this? First time I've seen that. Which kernel, ui, etc?

Nexus 7 | Paranoid Android Pie 3.1 | Trinity Kernel | Nova

Nook Color | Paranoid Android | Nova
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace9988:
tablet UI 160dpi, stock kernel, stock launcher, not much else really.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] GaboWinter:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

And you keep enable it why? The pie doesn't appear or what's the specific issue?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace9988:
the Pie is fine,

it's the expanded desktop mode that I have to keep re-enabling. the expanded desktop mode resets itself and the status bar returns. Then I have to press the power menu and enable expanded desktop mode again so I can use the pie
[Nexus 7 Original Development] GaboWinter:
I also didn't see that before, when you update was a dirty flash? If yes, try with a full wipe. And you are on the latest build right? Did you check the MD5 after downlad it?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace9988:
checked the MD5, and it's the first time I'm using paranandroid since before I was using raspbeanjelly, so naturally full wiped everything before coming on here.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] GaboWinter:
By chance, aren't you using the 'Expand' setting by app on the Hybrid Properties? (Extras section)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ace9988:
That was only in the youtube app until I realised it was causing issues with the pie. apart from that nowhere else.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Raverbunny:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 PIE3.1 (4.2.1) | Only Rom on Android capable of Hybrid mode

Same here, Currents will show headlines but the articles themselves load forever :(

Paranoid Android Pro Nexus 7 on Tapatalk HD