yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bray424:
I don't think the problem is naming a folder "butter" or the cryptic number dot zip names, I just think that since Goo Manager saw a "newer" rom and notified everyone, they all came here to figure out why it was telling them to get 5.zip. Take Goo Manager out of the equation, or somehow date the files to 1980, and the last 20 pages of this thread don't exist.

Personally I'd like to thank the devs for this amazing rom. I tried PA about a year ago on my MoPho and wasn't impressed, but now having installed it on my new N7, I honestly cant imagine using this or any tablet without per-app dpi settings. Keep up the fantastic work!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Jolest:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

I have a great deal of respect for you Metallice, but it this case, you're letting arrogance cloud your judgement.

The fact that it only helps some people and the amount it helps varies wildly only serves as evidence ... that the extent to which users tend to overload their phones and the inherent capabilities of those phones... Also varies wildly! (Something you should understand better than most...)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] psybill:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

another bluetooth related issue but this time with the status bar icon. look how the icon looks when there is a connected bt device.

I use the same PA build (0703) on my nexus 7 and nexus 4. this problem appears only in nexus 7. anyone else?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lordvincent 90:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Not to get off topic, but I have YET to see any data to back up these MAGICAL powers that seeder has. ;)

Hell, not even videos showing this "amazing improvement".
[Nexus 7 Original Development] najaboy:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

The fact is that you'll never see any empirical evidence because the perceived benefits of seeder and its ilk are a textbook study in logical fallacy.

It's no coincidence that seeder was prominently debunked on the front page of xda. However, like any other snake oil, it is going to have die hard supporters that ascribe absolute value to anecdotes.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Josh98:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

I'd never even heard of seeder till now.

Though I trust all your statements about it being only a placebo effect it seems odd that 90% of reviewers are giving 5 stars claiming it made "huge differences". Surely a pure placebo wouldn't create quite such a positive reaction? Especially something like lag, it should be easy to notice a "massive" improvement that can't just be physiological.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] najaboy:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Look at ”battery calibration” for an example of the same psychological phenomenon. Battery calibration apps don't work. They cannot do what they claim to do, as their core functionality is based on a misunderstanding of how battery indication works. Yet they too receive overwhelmingly positive reviews from folks that think they somehow magically make some sort of difference. The methodology of how they operate has long since been debunked by Android's Framework Engineer, yet they're still touted as a cure by those who claim their perceived results trump the facts.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Metallice:
The only people who go to the trouble of downloading the app and reviewing it are those that believe it makes a great difference. You'll see a couple of reviews where people downloaded the app just to give it a bad review, but for most it's not worth the trouble.

And your last sentence doesn't make sense. Placebo does just that. You're claiming it can't be placebo because of the exact thing placebo does? ...and of course it varies massively person to person. It doesn't even matter if you know it's BS, you'll still be affected. If you tell someone this pain pill is really a sugar pill, they will still report decreased pain.

Placebo is powerful - very, very powerful.

EDIT:

You know, back when entropy was all the rage, I made a kernel with all these entropy tweaks, increased pool, decreased quality randomness. (You can still see the remnants in the ramdisk... now commented out) And I tried it and thought it really made a difference. I went in skeptical and was surprised, my tablet seemed faster! I left it on for a while. But then I flashed back to m-kernel without the tweaks and realized there really was no difference. I was just fooling myself.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] k29er:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Just like kernels. Do they make things faster or smoother? Only if you think they do. There is no way to tell.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] pankomputerek:
This is for grouper, right?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lordvincent 90:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Yes
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Metallice:
No, but changes often have intentions, and if these intentions make sense with how the code is actually changed, and consistent, logical effects are reported among a large group, then I'm inclined to believe it.

Seeder tweaks do not follow this pattern. There is not reason they should work, there is no logical basis behind it, it does no conform to what experts say, and the results are neither consistant nor logical.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] prestige777:
In case anyone is interested or didn't know "Image 2 Wallpaper" works really good if you want to fit your whole wallpaper image on one screen without distortion.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sparkerjc:
Wow, come here to check on the ROM and I see in the last 5 pages is *****ing and trolling.

Can we get this back on track? I don't really want to read any further back due to the current content of this thread, and I am having horrible lag issues, so for those of you trying the test builds, which have been working the best?

I tried 3.zip because goo told me to, and I spent the afternoon trying some other roms and the difference in speed is shocking. PA is just plain slow lately. I haven't tried all of the test builds yet, but just curious if we can narrow it down to a few to focus on yet. PA is great, but this lag is atrocious.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] NicholasQ:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Using the search button would help you skip the trolling while at the same time find your answer. This has been talked about plenty.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sparkerjc:
I'm sick of having to start every post with "I tried the search feature" but I did, and really not sure what to type in there for this. "Best build" found nothing helpful, I don't expect you to dig though it for me but it would be nice to keep the ROM discussion part of, you know.. the rom thread.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] travisjustin:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

You could run the benchmarks yourself and see which works best for you, and contribute at the same time :)

I think it was 1 and 4 that have been having the best results so far, along with having working Bluetooth. Believe Aaron said he was keeping them up till Sunday so hopefully that means the next nightly will be released soon, hope this helps.

Sent from my Paranoid 3.1 Nexus7 running M-Kernel
[Nexus 7 Original Development] #define:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Guys, is anybody else facing a random reboots issue on the march 7th nightly?? Using the stock kernel..

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] thereal_bigjake:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Try test 4, seems to be the best out of the five test builds.

Nexus 7 | PA 3.1 | M-Kernel mr1 | Nova Prime
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sparkerjc:
Thanks, I really wasn't planning on spending all afternoon on this, but I just got fed up and flashed another rom to see what was up and then it worked well, so I started digging around and next thing you know I am on hour 5 of unplanned flashing and testing.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] travisjustin:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Funny how that can happen huh lol. Hope you get some better results with a new build :)

Sent from my Paranoid 3.1 Nexus7 running M-Kernel
[Nexus 7 Original Development] NicholasQ:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

In you're on xda app, then I somewhat understand. The search function sucks on this app. But having said that... You will find your answer just before all the bickering. It was literally a few pages before it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] aaronpoweruser:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

New build up with fixed Bluetooth
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Keion:
Never change, XDA.

Also, Gooyim folder is down for some reason.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Enki2011:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

No grouper folder found on Goo :(
[Nexus 7 Original Development] thereal_bigjake:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Is it just me or are there no grouper builds on Goo.I'm right now?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lazer77:
There is no grouper folder.. it isn't just you or the others that asked..

EDIT: Maybe it has something to do with this post found on PA's Google +

https://plus.google.com/107979589566958860409/posts/28STUHeEs2M

EDIT2: It's back now.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Bladyle:
So pa_grouper-3.10-17MAR2013-053451.zip is bassed on some of butter builds or it's just an update of previus stable/beta build?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] MasterJ87:
Downloading the latest build now. Will report back after some time with it.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Enki2011:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

No issue with the last build for now and the BT works.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bcvictory:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Which buttery zip did you end up going with?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] MasterJ87:
Quick update regarding the new build:

Bluetooth works without patch.

Quick setting tiles still don't stick.

Prevent pie rotation doesn't work (it worked previously for me).

So far no lag anywhere, although I never had lag to begin with.

Will continue testing and will report back later.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] jlvlawrence:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

I haven't seen any lag whatsoever on the last 3 builds with the mr1 M kernel. Dirty flashed all of them. Didn't even wipe the caches. Thanks Aaron for your hard work on bringing us an awesome ROM. I have a g nex, nexus 7, and nexus 10. I feel like the 7 is the perfect device for using the pie controls.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Firetribe:
Nope, no reboots, all working fine...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Hulkanator:
5.zip gave me lots of reboots.I went back to previous version.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] panSpermia:
No random reboots here...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lollyjay:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

5.zip was not a release... it was for testing only. The release is 17 March. 5.zip has been found by all testers to have flaws.

Nexus 7 | PA 3.10 | Nova Prime | M-Kernel a42

Nook Color | PA 2.99 | Nova Prime
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Josh98:
Dirty flashed over old version, running nicely. Amazed how much smoother things are since I went to stock again first, seriously it's a lot smoother running on two cores now than it was on 4 slightly OC'd before.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] MasterJ87:
I wonder if we'll still have people talking about the test builds even though the latest stable build has already been released.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] teddygo:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Hi guys, new user here coming from Cyanogenmod.

So far I love it, but a couple things that I'm hoping can be changed.

First, I don't like the CRT off effect. Stock and CM both do a screen fade off on the tablet. Can this be changed?

Second, I like that in CM there is a quick unlock option. When I enter my PIN correctly it unlocks automatically rather than needing to do PIN+enter. Is there an option for this?

(edit) Lastly, what is the most "stable" release? I was using the M snapshot on CM, don't want to be bothered with nightly updates. I'm using the 2013-03-17 build at the moment.

Thanks!

Regardless of these, PA is here to stay on the N7. Might even move the Nexus 4 to it later.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] EvanA:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

1. It can only be changed if you download the sources and compile it yourself.

2. We don't have that feature (yet!)

3. The latest build not in the nightly folder is considered the stable build. IMO the nightly updates are pretty stable and they don't update every night, more like every few days.

Sent from my AOSPA 3.+ (self compiled) and m-kernel+ mr1 Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Josh98:
I know it's early days but I seem to be getting incredible battery life and performance with this version. Woah. Been unplugged for over 8 hours, flashed the update a few hours ago and getting a predicted 1 day and 12 hours battery remaining. :eek: :laugh:

Should probably mention I'm running on two cores, performance is still perfectly acceptable though.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lollyjay:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Praises to Metallice and Aaron! Flashed a43 and PA 17-March 6 hrs ago and have totally smooth and fast experience. Did AnTuTu a couple of hours ago and got a score of 15,438. That's OK for my needs. BT works, USB drive works, no reboots, good battery life, no lag, EZ wakeup with power button. :D

Nexus 7 | PA 3.10 17-Mar2013 | Nova Prime | M-Kernel a43

Nook Color | PA 2.99 | Nova Prime
[Nexus 7 Original Development] HamsterHam:
I still had to flash the bluetooth fix. Apart from that all good :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lollyjay:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Funny... I didn't have to flash BT fix. :what:

Nexus 7 | PA 3.10 17-Mar2013 | Nova Prime | M-Kernel a43

Nook Color | PA 2.99 | Nova Prime
[Nexus 7 Original Development] thereal_bigjake:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Neither did I ;)

Nexus 7 | PA 3.1 | M-Kernel a43 | Nova Prime
[Nexus 7 Original Development] FReaKRaNT:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Nobody did.

Cheers, FReaKRaNT
[Nexus 7 Original Development] hazwheel:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

I had the same problem, I found that when I removed the live wallpaper and changed my launcher settings to no home screen transitions, it became remarkably smooth
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lollyjay:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Post 15011

Nexus 7 | PA 3.10 17-Mar2013 | Nova Prime | M-Kernel a43

Nook Color | PA 2.99 | Nova Prime
[Nexus 7 Original Development] HamsterHam:
Did you all clean or dirty flash?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Josh98:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Dirty.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lollyjay:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

I flashed over and wiped cache/dalvic.

Nexus 7 | PA 3.10 17-Mar2013 | Nova Prime | M-Kernel a43

Nook Color | PA 2.99 | Nova Prime
[Nexus 7 Original Development] MasterJ87:
Flashed with only wiping the cache and Dalvik cahce. Bluetooth didn't work for me in previous builds although it worked for others. But this latest build (17th March) fixed bluetooth without needing a patch.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] HamsterHam:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Strange, just re flashed and I didn't need the fix :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] panSpermia:
Hey gang. Just confirming that (for me), all is running beautifully with:

PA 3.10 (Mar/17/2013): http://goo.im/devs/paranoidandroid/roms/grouper/pa_grouper-3.10-17MAR2013-053451.zip

GAPPS 4.2 Full (Mar/08/2013): http://goo.im/devs/paranoidandroid/roms/gapps/pa_gapps-full-4.2-20130308.zip

M-Kernel a44: http://goo.im/devs/Metallice/Nexus7/M-Kernel_a44.zip

NOTE: Bluetooth working fine (no fix required).

NOTE2: Using TricksterMOD, I`ve set M-Kernel `Max Frequency` at 1.2Ghz (as noted by Metallice), and changed the `Max Active CPU Cores` to `2` (instead of the default of `4`). Apply and `Set at Boot`.

Verrry smooth and no lag at all... :good:

BIG thanks to Aaron and Metallice (among others)!

.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] likenota:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Fastest I've seen this ROM with combination of the above.. Amazingly smooth experience. Bluetooth worked no problem. Hopefully the battery life will remain as good as its been. Very great experience, it seemed to be sluggish and slow before the m kernel seemed to help out. However 4.zip test was very smooth but I can't say as smooth as this combination.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bso44:
What's the stock processor speed for the N7? I've seen it listed at both 1.2 and 1.3 ghz.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bcvictory:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

How much battery life do you get? Screen on time?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] aaronpoweruser:
thats my personal set up at 1.5 and no fsync

for those that were asking what my set up i decided to go with, i went with 03 without tree vecterizing

here is what the builds were, i need to work out a better way to do test builds the least downloaded build had 150 downloads and only three people posted results

bench test

1. normal without 03

2. normal

3. normal without linaro strings

4. o2

5. normal with krait strings/memcpy
[Nexus 7 Original Development] EvanA:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

Perhaps you could ask for volunteers and PM them the builds for testing?

Sent from my AOSPA 3.+ (self compiled) and m-kernel+ mr1 Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Original Development] gordo80:
Are the download links down? I wanted to download this ROM, but it seems three links are down
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lollyjay:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

GooManager app is working.

Nexus 7 | PA 3.10 17-Mar2013 | Nova Prime | M-Kernel a44

Nook Color | PA 2.99 | Nova Prime
[Nexus 7 Original Development] travisjustin:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

You missed one, there were four of us that posted results ;)

New build is running great. Thanks for all the time and work you and the rest of the team put into this ROM for us all.

Sent from my Paranoid 3.1 Nexus7 running M-Kernel
[Nexus 7 Original Development] NicholasQ:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

I only tested the 2 builds that had confirmed Bluetooth working. And they were identical in performance. My benchmarks did not show a significant difference.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] prestige777:
I went into developers options and changed window animation scale, transition animation scale and animator duration scale to off, now my tablet is super quick with zero lag. It made a huge huge difference.

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Feels like I'm running 4.1 again.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] FReaKRaNT:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

I just did this as well. Seems much snappier. What is the downside to this?

Cheers, FReaKRaNT
[Nexus 7 Original Development] prestige777:
Screenshot animation no longer shows up but it does show the screenshot in notifications so not really a big deal.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] androidkid311:
Re: PARANOIDANDROID 3.1 nightly(03-02) (4.2.2) | Hybrid, Pie, Per App Color

It just removed the window transitions. No downside apart from look.m
[Nexus 7 Original Development] tiny4579:
I reverted to the older trebuchet launcher from 1.98. You were right. My suspicions of it being trebuchet so on the CM side were right as well. I'm guessing they broke something with the layout containers with the padding options with the exception of the 300px container as my phone's fine though I'm trying a newer build right now.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] jcurtis369:
Nova has the same layout problems so ill try your way and switch it to 360px.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] neilrl79:
I use apex launcher and 1.991 seems to work good except for the lock screen won't rotate at all.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Prey521:
BTW, it seems as if 1.991 does not like the latest Trinity or Motley Kernel. I can flash them successfully, but it will not boot with either kernel. I have to wipe cache/dalvik then reflash 1.991 in order to be able to boot successfully after the kernel install attempts. It wouldn't even let me stack the zip install with the ROM and GAPPS in TWRP. I had to flash, reboot, let it load boot to the desktop, then reboot to recovery and then flash GAPPS.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] brizey:
I am running motley just fine, but I had to reflash gapps to get the play store to work, and even after I did that I had to clear data on the play store. And that was flashing clean.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Prey521:
Yeah? Damn.....it refuses to boot if I flash Motley or Trinity. I know it's not the zip files themselves. I've tried a few diff ways and they all fail to boot. I just tried flashing GAPPS after letting 1.991 boot to the desktop for the first time after install, and now it won't boot again.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] farmerbb:
Trinity Alpha 64 boots fine with 1.991. Haven't tried the latest alpha though.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Munk0:
You are right. I fully knew that everything else worked fine and that Paranoid Android is a pretty solid ROM. I just didn't think a beta version that wasn't behaving correctly would have been included with the PA, thinking it was a possible bigger problem. I will install the earlier version of Trebechut. Thanks for getting back so quickly and keep up the fantastic work.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] meatlocker:
Same. I have narrowed it down to GAPPS. I can flash everything else and get to boot, but once I introduce GAPPS, it boots back into recovery. I wiped every time and started from scratch.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] fleshdeep:
What recovery are you using? The new twrp causes the bootloop after flashing GAPPS.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] tiny4579:
I flashed ROM, gapps, latest trinity kernel in the same session without rebooting and only wiping dalvik+cache using TWRP 2.2.1. No issues here.

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Lockscreen is independent of the launcher. I noticed this too. Settings->display->rotation, check include lockscreen and voila. This worked for me on Trebuchet. Since launcher and lockscreen work independently - they're separate apps - the functionality of the launcher doesn't affect the lockscreen.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Jason Phan:
This ROM work fine with latest trinity 86. I do fully wipe. Flash ROM, then flash trinity, then boot up fine

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I mean fully wipe, flash rom, gapps, then trinity, then boot up ok
[Nexus 7 Original Development] bwassef:
Its really no biggie, I wasn't really complaining, just reporting. I know others were reporting the same thing, but I was confirming that there are more than a few people that are experiencing it. 1.99 works great and I'm happy with it. Keep up the good work