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[Ouya General] swbf2lord:
Honestly, the Ouya took a while to get to market, and it now has older hardware than most current cell phones. If anything, that would doom it. Hopefully though, the devs will still get on board.
[Ouya General] Genjinaro:
I voted yes but I also plan to get an Archos TV Connect. The OUYA would travel with me for visits to my folks house & hotels.
[Ouya General] Azerox:
I will buy it, for those $99 its very cheap, even if it (probably) becomes €99 for Europe.

Just a great device.
[Ouya General] unixon:
From the standpoint of a casual gamer and movie buff in college, I would not mind paying a measly $99 for a reasonably powerful device that can plug into my TV, let me easily use my XBMC server, Netflix, Youtube, and Hulu Plus whilst allowing me to play some of the excellent games Android has brought me.

MADFINGER makes some really well scripted games with the best graphics I have ever seen. Samurai II was maybe a dollar? And the artwork is fantastic and it's a fun button masher with a comic book style. Shadowgun is $2. Gears of War really isn't that much different, and it's $60. Need for Speed Most Wanted is the most fun I have ever had playing a racing game.

Dead Trigger is free, as is Subway Surfers and Temple Run 2, and a plethora of Freemium/Server games. The games are good. And as much as I'm a snob about my games, some free ones kick butt. And end up being maybe 50 megabytes. Which is surprisingly well optimized.

We have enough big names to keep my hardcore side and a friend entertained. Need for Speed, Minecraft, Dead Space, Grand Theft Auto, Sonic, Call of Duty, The Sims, etc.

And I mean, emulators... games from classic style devs like Gamevil.

And keep in mind if the games are well optimized they will look extremely good, just compare the first 360 games to Halo 4 on the same Xbox.

No more subscription required to play your darn games (XBL)

And then the nerd activist in me enjoys an open source movement, a toy to tinker with, an emphasis for indie development, and better market competition. The team interacts with users. Oh and it's a brushed aluminum box that can replace my Xbox 360 and Roku 2 both of which I hate! Cool.
[Ouya General] lordhardware:
In answer to almost all of your questions: Why does xda developers have different sections for each device?

The answer is that programs, tools, bootroms, in fact, almost everything, runs differently from device to device.

That sweet new game thats out at the moment? it doesnt run on the first iteration of android dongles due to hardware limitations.|

Speaking of hardware, the Ouya jumps that little issue by having uniform hardware from one device to the next, which means that (unlike even xbox360 and playstation games) developers are making their games run well on only ONE device, with ONE processor, ONE set of assembly instructions, ONE set amount of ram, and the same graphics processor on EVERY device.

Thats why its better than the alternative. It's a DEDICATED device.
[Ouya General] joemhewitt:
This console will faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaail miserably....
[Ouya General] davidian22:
Most People think it will have the power of an mobile phone, but the tegra 3 in the ouya is 1.6 ghz since it does not need to save battery power.
[Ouya General] mrsilkunderwear:
I am planning on buying this. I think it would be a good alternative for kids.
[Ouya General] Geeba:
I'll probably buy one... realistically I dont think they got it to market quick enough... cheapy Chinese devices such as the MK808 and MK802 etc really does what they seem to be aiming at.. I have one... it plays all my emulators and games I want it to, gamepad, keyboard etc all working... hardcore games I leave to my games rig ;)

I think the best thing it has going for it is the support of Team XBMC.... killer app! It kept old Xbox's under alot of TV's for years after the 360 was released and before the jump to multi platform...
[Ouya General] gregpxc:
I clearly haven't been paying much attention. I didn't know these even existed!
[Ouya General] Newpunk:
Media Centre PC and Retro Console Emulator

The main purpose I have for the Ouya is to stream media to my TV. Recently, the PS3 has been OK, but with Cinavia watermarks being added to many new movies (and I imagine TV shows soon), the PS3 is not a good streamer for me. The Ouya will have more than enough processing power to playback 720p/1080p video in nearly any format.

I also plan to use Ouya as a retro emulator. Android emulators already exist for nearly every previous gen console, so it's not going to be difficult to get those operational on the Ouya.

For $100, it's going to make a great, flexible device for my TV. And if there are any great Android apps it can run, then I've got even more reasons to use these puppy. I hope YouTube is better on the Ouya than the PS3 as well.
[Ouya General] Geeba:
Hmmm

'For $100, it's going to make a great, flexible device for my TV'..... but for £32 delivered to your door you can get a A9 Dual core 1.6Ghz CPU, Quad core Mali-400 GPU with 1GB RAM /8GB storage, mSD slot, with an air mouse/keyboard... now... that will do all the emulators and games etc... thats why I think they were a bit slow out of the blocks...

Finless Bob does great ROMs too.... USB hub and load it up with everything from an ethernet port to a PS3 controller, theres even XBMC builds for it...
[Ouya General] mancur:
The XBMC developer is currently having a hard time getting video hardware acceleration working for Rockchip-based devices like the MK series, as a lot of the information is proprietary.

Best to stick with Tegra/Snapdragon/Exynos devices if planning on using one of these as a media streamer.

XBMC on the Nexus 7 is able to decode any 1080p mkv my wireless N network will support. This bodes very *well* for the Ouya, which is clocked significantly higher than the Nexus 7.
[Ouya General] Geeba:
Yep Rockchip aren't playing ball but you can always use and external player such as MX or Dice which will do 1080... or even the player they ship it with - I've watched 720/1080 content on mine while my XBMC/HTPC was out of action.
[Ouya General] rushless:
I am a gamer and LOVE old school games and already have similar function with a Toshiba Excite 7.7 and its multimedia dock. Catch is that cost over $400 together. I can see the appeal of this device. People should appreciate this device will run faster since will not be closed in like a tablet. It will be running as fast as they can get it to and not melt- it does have a vent slot ;)

The 808 Android stick needs tinkering to work as needed, plus will not be as fast for gaming and stuff like MAME, N64 and PSX. Also, the O has a gamepad with it and ready to use without tinkering for performance. I am not sure if I will get this, but think the Tegra 4 version might be the true big player for this platform. Do not be surprised if one with a Tegra 4 releases toward end of year, since too good to pass up for holiday sales.

I still might end up getting one of these, but just bought a 128GB iPad 4 and still have my TF300 with keyboard. I use them all for different stuff.

Looking forward to reviews of the "O" ! :)

IMO, the gamepad, device and features would be worth the $40 or so premium over the Android thumb sticks. Then of course there is the Nvida game device and the Gamestick device that is like the Ouya in premise. The Nvidia DOES have a Tegra 4, but end of year launch. The Nvidia device though will be at least the cost of a good tablet.

BTW, Tegra 3 performs MUCH better than the Rockchips as far as higher def video content.
[Ouya General] lordhardware:
So a lot of people are having issue with the whole "new hardware every year" thing.

...How many of you buy a new phone every year?

And if you didn't, how many of the new games released in the next year WOULDN'T you be able to play on your old device?

...I thought so.
[Ouya General] lovekeiiy:
Not me, but that's because I buy under contract, so it's every other year. I really don't play that many games on the phone, but I do play some. Thus, games haven't been a big issue for me.

I really don't think the new sku every year was that big of an issue. It's may be possible to upgrade. I just figured it's more a pricing and availablity issue. I'm assuming that Ouya has a target price point they want to hit for the street. It's possible that for new CPU, say the Tegra4, it could cost them enough to exceed that target. Plus, I don't think they'll have the numbers to be able to entice the CPU market to shift supplies, assuming it's limited enough, from the major mobile device makers such as Samsung, ASUS, HTC, and so forth.

My guess as to the whole Tegra3 versus Tegra4 is more mental. It's not quite the bragging power. Yes, it's not as powerful as a Tegra4 would be, But ti's not like a Tegra4 is going to bring graphics prowess of a 360 or PS3 It just may not able to handle as many characters and so forth. That said, doesn't mean there won't be fun games to be had. And really, I don't think it's going to make that much difference, especially if you're getting developers who are already in the Android platform, since they're use to having to make games that will not always been run on the latest hardware

Ultimately, the success lies in the content available for it. It'll be a chicken and egg situation. Need good games to bring the people in, but you need the people to bring more developers, which increases the odds of having good games.

Personally, although I'm getting one, I'm taking the wait and see approach. I think the concept is interesting and could be good for the gaming industry. I'm hopeful it'll have a good measure of success. I think a million or two units would be outstanding.
[Ouya General] lordhardware:
I feel like I'm saying the same thing over and over again but that's only because people all seem to have the same reservations when it comes to untested hardware.

The big issue I have with the whole "It doesnt have tegra4" thing is, tegra 3 hasn't even had enough time on market to actually be pushed to its limits, and even for the games that are optimised for it, they are developed to work over a plethora of different android device configurations. You'll probably end up finding that the Ouya tegra3 will perform eqully as well as the phone-based tegra4 due only to the uniformity of the hardware :)
[Ouya General] lovekeiiy:
I'm not disagreeing with you at all about the Terga3 versus Tegra4. I still think ultimately people's issue is more mental, not actual performance. The fact that it doesn't have the latest and greatest is enough to make them think it'll like bringing a Smartcar to race a F1 racer.

It is true though that the Tegra3 in the Ouya would not be as powerful as a Tegra4 in the Ouya. I'm assuming both would be set to run optimally on the Ouya.

And the last part is more about people's expectations of what the device is going to deliver. Although I think most XDA are smart enough to know better, yet somehow I think people are expecting near graphic quality of the modem gaming console. I don't think it has the power, and possibly a limitation within Android to get that close. I still think it can deliver some good looking games.
[Ouya General] lordhardware:
Console quality is more than possible, due to the dedicated nature of the device. and remember that most games on ps3/360 run at 720p not 1080p as all ouya games do so far.

Here's what tegra 3 does as of NOW:

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[Ouya General] itsmontoya:
I feel that one saving grace of the OUYA will be it's price. Companies like xi3 are coming out with tiny computers that pack a punch. Now we will finally be able to play games on computers small enough to mount behind a monitor! The only caveat is that the x7a will be around $1000.

I'm interested to see if anyone does an ubuntu port for this. The might be interesting!
[Ouya General] rushless:
Ouya has better hardware for $20 more than the Gamestick and probably 25% the price of Shield, so seems set in a good place for this segment of devices. Catch is, is there enough marketshare for this segment of devices?
[Ouya General] amrando:
Got the email notice today - Kickstarter Ouyas start shipping March 28. As to 8 pages of mostly-uninformed debate for the last 8 months.. (sorry):

I bought an Ouya because I believe this is the best gaming you'll get for $100. No phone or tablet can come close to the 'proper' home-console experience without controllers and a big-screen TV; likewise no existing game console offers 'good-enough' gaming for $99 without the network and proprietary baggage of their manufacturers. You don't need a PS4 to play Angry Birds or Pocket Planes, or even *still* many best-in-class PC games that have been on the market for 5 years or more like Counterstrike, Team Fortress 2 or any RTS and most RPGs that still have THOUSANDS of players every week. Just take a quick look at Steam today - how many 'indie' games on Steam could EASILY be run on the Ouya? How about every virtual console game for all of the previous-gen consoles? The Tegra3 may not be bleeding-edge to you, but it's still 5 years more advanced than any previous console! Do you have any idea how long the development cycle for the major consoles is? And yet here's the $99 Ouya which has gone from prototype to retail in 8 months with mostly off-the-shelf ARM hardware.

The Ouya is the perfect niche between the 'real' console makers - who've forgotten what console games were once upon a time (how many developers does it take to screw in a PS4 polygon lightbulb?) and the phones and tablets which just fundamentally don't have a large enough screen for the sit-down or multi-player experience. The real key to the Ouya is MARKETING it to the public. Getting it out in retail markets so people actually know it exists, that they don't have to pay the Sony tax just to play $5 online games.

My only complaint so far? For a 'hackable' console, I do think they should have added a little more open-ended hardware; ie: more than one USB port or at least USB 3.0 for future bandwidth.
[Ouya General] MartinC#1:
More than just Tegra and Indie Games

I have pre ordered one and what I am most excited about is being able to stream high end Windows games to Ouya

I can put my big noisy 2500K/HD6990 rig out of the way and have the Ouya seemingly play games way out of it's league

Streaming is what will make it shine then you will have some people using it for emulators and lastly it's poxy games

I think the popularity of hacking the original XBOX showed that an open console (even though it was not the intention of the XBOX developers) is very appealing to a lot of people
[Ouya General] tobalaz:
I've already got a Viewsonic G Tablet set up upstairs as a media center with HBO Go and Netflix, I dump 720p movies on the microsd card and have all my NES, SNES, Master System and Genesis games on there.

I love it.

Problem is I hate moving the dock and cables every time I want to put it downstairs for the kids to play games or watch movies.

I paid $350 total for my Gtab, dock and a Bluetooth game controller.

A Roku box that only does video streaming is $100.

Ouya is $99 and ships with a controller and is MEANT to connect to a tv!

Hell yeah I'm getting one!

I can leave my tablet upstairs, leave the little cube tucked away, and enjoy my movies, shows and games two different places without the fuss.

Look, I've got a pretty beefy PC I play my big boy games on like Borderlands 2 and Skyrim, and all the nieces and nephews don't care is its Super Mario World, NBA Jam, or the latest greatest console games, and honestly I prefer retro gaming most of the time myself anyways. I can't help it, I grew up on Atari, Intellivision, Nintendo and Sega. Nostalgia is a very powerful thing.

Graphics on mobile devices happen to be moving along fast, I've seen some Square RPGs and a few sports games that look on par to the PS2.

Look, it's all fun and games anyways.

If you like the concept, buy one, if you don't care for it, avoid it.
[Ouya General] gabe32:
Unlike all the "Game Sticks" that are coming out, this; 1, Has the highest powered hardware (Tegra 3).

2, Has XDA support now.

3, Is made to be hackable and the hackabilty is supported by the Devs.

4, And to bring the Nvidia Shield into the convo, this is way cheaper, and like stated above

is made to be hacked.

All in all, I'm very excited for this device!
[Ouya General] flow2fly:
I believe they should come up with an OUYA app so that all Android devices can have access to all the games. This way you can begin a game in front of your TV then leave your home and continue on your mobile device.
[Ouya General] lordhardware:
Android tablets = sync a controller

Ouya = games developed for a controller with up to 8 controllers at once.

Who cares what a tablet or dongle CAN do, and think about what it can't.
[Ouya General] petedaddi:
For the price I will be getting one. Just hope it isn't delayed for months in the UK. Anyone know where I can pre order one in the UK.
[Ouya General] lambdabr:
Ouya is going to fail. Simple as that.
[Ouya General] tobalaz:
Depends on your definition of failure.

Grant it Ouya is a nitch market, but i think the kickstarter results show there was a high enough interest.

Two things will make or break Ouya, versatility and independent support. The more it can do the broader the appeal and the more support the more it can do.
[Ouya General] thepza:
Just like the G1?
[Ouya General] motavi:
Still waiting for mine...
[Ouya General] dibblebill:
They're supposed to be shipping out on March 28th.
[Ouya General] lovekeiiy:
this may be possible already. It will depend on the developers. We've seen with some games like Dead Trigger. It lets you save your progress on their servers and restore from them. This can be done on multiple devices.

I'm more looking forward to the day where something like OnLive can let us play games on out consoles and continue on the mobile devices. Basically turning our console or mobile devices into thin clients.
[Ouya General] Kikwi:
I think it's a great initiative
[Ouya General] UnOfficiallyDNG:
and that burns how many watts and cost how much?
[Ouya General] ladynaamah:
The worst thing they have done is, that they decided to use Android as OS... Android is simply not designed as serious firmware for console... If they mean it seriously, they should have looked on (albeit proprietary) existing solutions, such as PSP (i'll compare to PSP because i've never actually owned PS3 or Xbox or whatever console you want...) the game itself is not run from firmware, the console actually reboots (or nearly reboots, flushing whole memory for the game) and then the XMB actually boots the game (if [whatever security mechanism] allows it to do so) games are OS on itself... it can just make few platform-specific API calls (such as pressing home button, volume buttons etc.) but it's solely independent on the system... you can actually boot game from custom recovery without launching the XMB... I can't imagine how can such mechanism be performed on even heavily modified Android...
[Ouya General] lordhardware:
What you said is not accurate at all. The only limitation android has as an os is that it's been built on Java.
[Ouya General] ladynaamah:
well, i said i can't i magine it, that doesnt mean that it's not possible :)
[Ouya General] cdt710:
confused

I have been following this console since the kickstarter campaign and I am still confused as to what exactly it is lol. I understand the whole concept of an open source console but what market is this supposed to compete with? I already see two different console markets, with the PS3 and Xbox 360 together, then the Wii variants below that...is the Ouya going to compete with the Wii or is this now going to be a third market?
[Ouya General] megalomanicbastard:
I see this as an alternative approach in gaming console that budget friendly and versatile since the massive amount of (mini) games in android playstore. Though wont be as successful as the ps, xbox or even nintendo.
[Ouya General] lovekeiiy:
To put it in is the simplest terms, for consumers, this product is more a bridge between mobile games and home consoles (including PC). For developers, the idea is a significantly lower, in terms of financial costs, entry point into the game market.

The being an open console is more for developers because they won't necessarily have to buy expensive developer kits to make games. It may be possible they may not even need one; although this would make it more difficult. Consumers may be able to benefit such as being able to upgrade hardware, and run other custom software.

Beyond that, it become rhetoric to what everything fits in. In my opinion, I think it's more a "other" console and possible the "third" in a household. I think there is a market for something like the Ouya.

Luckily, less than a month to go before people get their hands on one and the rubber meets the road.
[Ouya General] rushless:
I think like all systems, it depends on the games, regardless of system price. If good game buzz and user interface experience, it should sell well, especially then- due to the price.

I am still a tad skeptical a Tegra 3 two years into its life at that point is a good chip to start with, but they can run it full speed and not dwell on heat or battery issues. Still seems that we will see a refresh of this sooner than later with a Tegra 4 or another chip with more ability (than the Tegra 3). Tegra 4 may be later than expected and Nvidia are likely going to hog capacity for their Shield launch. That device seems way riskier due to its likely $400-ish expected price.

In defense of the OUYA, the Tegra 3 is probably the best fit for price point, in spite of the chip's age.
[Ouya General] cdt710:
This makes sense....I hadn't thought of it that way. I was really confused as to how this was going to be a serious contender in the gaming industry but it would appear that is not what they are going for. I can see this filling/competing in the market for things like the "retro" atari units that have all the atari games built in. I agree that it would definitely be a second or third console though, not replacing the 'heavy hitters'.
[Ouya General] philfrommancs:
I think a lot of the people deriding the Ouya and dooming it to fail are missing the point !!!

Most of us on XDA like to tweak our phones. .. Flash the latest Roms etc... . So I, for example, have just ordered a Minix Neo x5. I will tweak the hell out of it... I will Flash and root it the day I get it. . I will be using it to play emulated games, android games, XBMC, Media streaming, Skype etc etc. How many of our friends do all that on their phones. .. I don't know anyone who tinkers as much as I do !!!

The Ouya isn't really aimed at us. .. its aimed at the smartphone generation who aren't technically savvy. The people who keep their phones as the manufacturer sent them out. .

They will love a games box that is plug and play. .. will play a lot of the games they play on their phones. .. That are free or cost next to nothing, rather than £30 a pop ! Will play streaming movies etc . Social network, Web browse.

We are in a minority. ..

I think they've got a good chance of finding a niche market with the right promotion. .. And if it really can be upgraded each year then I think people are underestimating it's potential as a game changer.