yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] KidCarter93:
The thing is, it's getting people to read through the OP and from finding the password myself, it took 2 times of reading the OP to find it. This makes the message sink in which is the aim of this.

''Absolute power corrupts absolutely, but absolute powerlessness does the same''
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
Don't flash it then. No one is putting a gun to your head. Either you go and spend two minutes looking for the password, or don't bother. Considering it takes days to put each update together, I think asking you to spend two minutes of your time reading isn't a bad deal for something we do for you for free. With an attitude like yours, no one will be sorry to see you leave.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Mac of York:
I've read it four times and I can't get the right password. I must be retarded. :< Still trying though.

Apparently I'm a bit retarded, but I found it. xD I know that OP pretty damned well now!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Ir0nLy0n:
It does make you read through the OP but one thing I noticed was that I was reading more to just find the password than really read what was there. (Maybe cause I've already read the OP 100 times with different issues though when I first tried to flash :D )
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
Yea, but at least people are looking at it now. Before this, the OP was like the Loch Ness Monster. People had heard about it, but no one had actually gotten a good look at it.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] zmore:
In addition to saving space, removing non-inverted gapps is also a good idea because it vastly simplifies the Aroma installer. It wasn't immediately obvious that (in the old aroma) having both the non-inverted and inverted sections enabled (as default), and then deselecting an inverted app on the next page would install the non-inverted app.

I would just add that the new requirement for the regular non-inverted gapps package having to be flashed before Aroma inverts should be in a large font in the OP, to reduce thread headaches later on :)

Is a password protected zip an XDA first? First I've heard of anyone resorting to this. SMH. Anyway, doesn't bother me much, since I'll just strip and repack the zip w/o passwd (for my own use), but it'll sure bother a few noobs. Well see how goes I guess, but I expect a stream of wine.

Also... FYI: CM File Manager no longer needs to be themed going forward since the version in the next CM10 nightly added themability + its own dark theme. I believe the last any.do update added a dark theme too. Wish more apps were themable like this.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Kjennings15:
If you guys would like, I'll run a quasi-experiment on your password system. I think you'll find that retention of the material in the first post is about 80% worse than you think it is. People will not read for content and retention...

But what do I know... I'm just a psychology grad student.

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and what about people running AOKP or another AOSP rom that would still like to use this manager?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] manulemaboul:
a random password and a "game" to find it ? seriously ? WTF ?

I got no idea what you're trying to do, but I'll find another inverted app package, I got no time to play your stupid game, sorry.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Narcistic:
I understand the reasoning completely I may not agree with it but I see what it's trying to accomplish. But with all the roms and kernels that don't have to resort to these measures and still get along fine it makes it seem overboard on what's being implemented.

This is just my personal opinion, people are dumb and will mess up the installation anyways, also the password will get around eventually to those wrong people regardless. "Punishing" the many because of a bad few.

If you view this as personal attack on your decision on this I'm sorry it's not meant to be. But a long time supporter of these gapps I would think my opinion and those like mine would like to be heard for the longevity and popularity of this project. Do not think your work is not appreciated. It is.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] KidCarter93:
Truly, thanks for going.

''Absolute power corrupts absolutely, but absolute powerlessness does the same''
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] zmore:
Your degree learned you TLDR gud. :)

It's not thaaaaat great that you'd miss it, imo. CM File Manager has replaced the old OI File Manager for my "light" usage, but I still keep ES File Manager around for most stuff.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] manulemaboul:
I trully don't get it, I've read the OP the first time I downloaded the inverted apps, I've re-read it twice right now to try to find that password and can't find it :/.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Mac of York:
Put tapatalk into dark mode, works fine. lol Also, I don't think they will be inverting paid apps.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] trvbone:
Tapatalk has theming Der.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] KidCarter93:
A lot of the ROMs and kernels could probably benefit from an idea such as this really. This is an experiment, as such. The idea was mentioned yesterday and Justin decided to implement it into these gapps to see how much difference it would make.

If it can prove successful enough here, it may just make it further across XDA. I do agree, however, that it shouldn't have to get to this extent. It really is a shame.

''Absolute power corrupts absolutely, but absolute powerlessness does the same''
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] manulemaboul:
Think about people for whom English is not their mother langage, it makes it quite difficult to find the password you know.

I'm french, quite good in english, read the OP 4 times and only got an half of the password.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Mac of York:
English IS my first language and I had quite a hard time finding it, but then I realized it was because I glazed over a few key parts -.- or just plain missed it.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] zmore:
Ok, so I guess I'm retarded too, because I re-read the OP twice and only managed to find one word of this "password game" (it starts with a "C").

NoMild offense, but since this is a game of finding two out-of-place waldo words in the OP, then it would help immensely if the OP was written in proper English to begin with.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] manulemaboul:
I think we found the same part :).
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
And this, guys, is how we weed out the lazy idiots.

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That's the point. The bad ones have ruined it for the good ones. All of us are sick and tired of coming in here to find pages worth of crap posts that have been answered multiple times.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] manulemaboul:
Did I say I was leaving the forum ?

I'm not lazy, I've read the OP, 5 times now you know.

Sorry if I sounded a bit pissed, but yes, I'm a bit pissed because I can't find the password even if I've read the OP multiple times.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
Exactly. ES is free and far superior to the CM FM.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] KidCarter93:
If you have to, read it word by word. You can be sure not to miss anything that way.

''Absolute power corrupts absolutely, but absolute powerlessness does the same''
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
It's two words, but it's in three parts. When entering the password into the zip, do not use spaces.

As far as the grammar in the OP goes, I'll rewrite it for Justin, so he can copy/paste it when he has time.

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You haven't found it, because you are skimming through the post looking for something out of the ordinary. If you read the OP word by word, you will find all three parts.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] biggrz:
Honestly, if the point of this ridiculous game is to get people to read through the OP, sometimes up to 3 times so that you can feel sure that people understand things, then you clearly don't know how to communicate a message/point effectively. Half of the posts on the last several pages are about the password, so I'll assume your goal is really just out for more replies. Consider this my contribution.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] arfarf2:
Apex is a paid app...

I guess I didn't realize there is a regular tapatalk app... I've been using xda premium. That would explain some things...

Sent from my SGH-I747
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
Feel free to make your own package and share it with the world, then.

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Apex is a free app. There is a premium license for it that unlocks some other features which is not included in our package. Nothing in here is a paid app, as this would be considered warez and against XDA's rules.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] zmore:
Yeah, thanks, I finally found the password, but it would be no thanks to a rewritten OP, since the word-parts are in dumb locations that most people skim and can't be faulted for skipping either. The words should be in the actual IMPORTANT meaty parts of the OP (like the first part of the pass is in a paragraph), and not in a link that you could misconstrue as belonging there (2nd part), or under unsupported devices (3rd part). hinthint.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
Allow me to put it to you guys another way. Let's take a poll.

Which would you prefer?

A. Spend a couple minutes looking for a password to use this mod.

B. We abandon the project or simply choose not to share it anymore.

I'll leave it up to you guys.

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Good feedback. I'll chat with him about it. For now, it's going to stay like this since Justin's asleep. I'll see about changing it as you've suggested.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cjwaggsrx8:
Every time I try to download anything 7z from my phone ie any of the new password protected zips or whatever I get this... Wtf this blows man.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] zmore:
C. Simplify the game.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
See my reply above.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
Use Chrome or a different browser. It works fine for me.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Mac of York:
I get the error on the stock browser and Boat Browser. Too bad OverSkreen doesn't support Jelly Bean yet :(
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] GTDarthYoda:
I like the password idea, but yeah I found alot of grammer issues >.< kept thinking they were my password parts... lol
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] a.cid:
As said, the password idea was an experiment, and we see it being partly successful...

I assure all, it will be ironed out soon...

Do try and understand what prompted such a step...

If this is successful, it *could* be widely implemented...

"By the power vested in me, I now pronounce you, Man and Knife"
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
Not sure what's up with the stock browser. Maybe it is trying to open the 7zip file instead of downloading it. It works fine on Chrome. It also downloads perfectly on any PC browser.

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I'm working on grammar issues now.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Mac of York:
I'm giving Chrome a solid test run -- I really like how it's set up. The stock browser is just being stupid... Boat ofc is third party... thanks for the suggestion!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] luke1404:
Well I read the OP 3 times now and can only see two parts of the password. This password thing is pain, it just punishes the people who dont ask dumb question and if English is not your first language then the password is not that easy to find. I think 25 minutes searching is enough.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] manulemaboul:
thanks for the hints, I finally found it.

Now I know the purpose of the "game", I understand.

it's not stupid after all and maybe not a so bad idea, but make it easier with only 2 missplaced words in the important part (wich I always read anyway).

I'm sorry for having been a little crude (and for my poor English).
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] macboy3000:
It's not that hard b/c the parts are all not complete words. They're all random.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] zelendel:
This was done also in the Advanced Hack kit for the HTC Desire HD/inspire. While it was a bit of work to get it right. It did weed out those that should not be doing it. Some liked it and some didn't, but measures like this have become needed. I personally like the idea and think it will help in the long run. Even if it helps improve peoples searchfu.

Sent from Arkham
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
You didn't find it because you didn't read the OP. You have been skimming through it looking for the password. You won't find it like that. You have to read the OP word by word in order to find it.

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Hey, since you're here, would you mind deleting any posts that pop up giving out hints? Like the one above your post.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cjwaggsrx8:
Man I got ADD so hard I had to read it like 6 times and I still don't got it..
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Narcistic:
Too soon to tell if it's being successful at its primary purpose and probably won't really be concrete results for week+, as only posts last few pages have been about the password and I'm sure that will continue as more people view the update/changes.

I'm glad the OP is being updated on the grammar side, I would still be concerned about people whose first language is not English though depending on if/where passwords key codes get moved too.

Suggestion do blind tests with people who do not know keyword or where it will be or how much it's broken up in op to see if they find it successfully within a reasonable amount of time. You want to make people read it but not become more frustrated than necessary. Especially for people down the line with password changing and having read op 20x in the past.

We as smart users understand development frustrations with stupid questions and problems that would be solved by following the simple instructions. But throwing out an ultimatum about basically dealing with the "experimental" use of the password or you will stop sharing your work does nothing but adds more bad blood about this change which is apparently "experimental" and will hinder any truthful feedback about this or any other change in worry of a good mod being closed over opinions and feedback.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cjwaggsrx8:
Me too man I only see two and I'm not sure its a word..
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
If you're looking for the password, you will not find it. Read the OP word by word. It's two words in three parts. When you input the password, don't use spaces.

For those having trouble, here's an example. Say the password is "chairburrito". In the OP, it will be split into three parts. You would find the three parts of the word, "chai", "rburr", and "ito", and then put them together to form the password. Hopefully this clears up the confusion for now.

EDIT: Obviously, this was an example and not the real password.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] lunchboxVA:
Ha you just proved why this is necessary
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] a.cid:
@cfb - can't pm you...

I had suggested this over to justin in rc chat, and he implemented it...

But if you can, can you send me the corrected-up op so I can try some changes?

"By the power vested in me, I now pronounce you, Man and Knife"
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] lunchboxVA:
Opionons are like buttholes everyone had them and they all stink...it isn't punishment...if you were a true support you wouldn't think to write your complaint and if you followed the thread closely you would see why this was necessary...if there are so many other options go to them people know the quality of this work do they suck with it
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Wechy77:
I was a little scared, but I have to say, if I was (who never learned english in school, only by reading english sites/forums), then anyone should be able to find the password fragments.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] manulemaboul:
Proved nothing, read what I've said after that, and search the thread: first time I post ever and I've been using JT inverted for month.

I'm not a noob, I alway read the importants parts of the OPs before downloading.

I was just pissed because I couldn't find the password even after re-reading the OP multiple times, and I already apologized for that.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
Yes, it may be frustrating, but now you guys are getting a taste of the frustration we get on a daily basis. This isn't about getting revenge, this is about forcing people to read the instructions. This password method combined with the new support thread is what we're hoping will combat the problems we're seeing in here on a daily basis. The userbase for this mod is only growing each day. People are signing up to the site for the sole purpose of asking retarded questions. We encourage feedback, but there has to be a limit.

This is the problem that most users don't understand. Lots of users feel entitled to the work being put out. That's not ok. We do this and put in the effort because we enjoy doing it. We choose to share it with the group because we figured you guys might like it too. But when we share our toys and then hear nothing but *****ing about how "this could be better," or "why didn't you do this," or "please invert this app," it just sucks the motivation right out of you. Why not just be happy with what has been shared? It's free, and it's an awesome mod. Just enjoy it. There are no current problems which haven't been addressed already. People just don't bother reading the posts that we've spent so much time working on to keep those questions from being asked.

Yes, we know there are a bunch of really good users out there. We're not blind to that. The whole point of this is to weed out the lazy asses who can't be bothered to do a small amount of work to enjoy this mod. Consider how long this has been worked on since July 2012 when the project began. How many countless hours were spent making this as cool as it is now? Compare that to the amount of time it takes to look for the password, and then complain about it again.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] GaGiLu:
look the internet, it have programms that do that job ;)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
You're in my contact list now, so you can PM me.

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Finally, someone who gets it. Thanks for the support.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] lunchboxVA:
There are more people ergo want to complain than to actually do the work of reading...if people have your attitude then they will go somewhere else instead of blowing up the thread with nonsense
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Wechy77:
I know a lot of reverse engineering, but in this case i accepted the rules, and find the password parts. If lot a people trying to remove password from 7zip (with 3rd pty program), then i think the rules are going to change and may only registered users can download the zip.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] a.cid:
Please do not start a flame war here...

Try and understand why this was done...

If its any consolation, I too didn't get it...took me 6 tries and some help to get it...

Look around, you'll get it eventually...

And moving on...

"By the power vested in me, I now pronounce you, Man and Knife"
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
He apologized for his error. Calm down.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] zmore:
Working on my 2nd bootanimation tonight (glowing beans filling a jar + inverted andy loop)... and here's just a random test render in order to break up all the password-related post monotony :)

note: beans not final scale :)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] GaGiLu:
you know this means a big wave of "what is the pass" questions in this thread ? what starting a big spam (same this post)

i no understand why need put a password ? when ppl want share it, theys do it - if have the password or not ?!

example person X do this: post the download link or re-host the packages

not have a PW

person X find the PW and

post the download link or re-host the packages again ...

if u no want share the things, let it stay just for u personally...

or how else you want stop this ?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
Yup. I get that people are going to try to get around the rules, but it really is simpler to just read the OP than to try anything sketchy. How long does it take to decrypt a zip as opposed to reading one simple post?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Ir0nLy0n:
Can't wait for this :good:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
If that happens, we could just stop sharing any updates. Why not just play by the rules? We're not asking anything major.

Good God people! We're asking you to read the OP. You'd think we'd just declared war on Canada or something. If you're not going to play by the rules that were set, then go away. Plain and simple. All this arguing is making me want less and less to be involved in this. I guarantee you Justin and TUN will feel the same way when they wake up to 30 pages of bullsh!t.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] GaGiLu:
hmm imagine im no from a english speaking country ... and i no learned english in school good.. and all the words same for me .. huh?

yes i know its not your problem but ok, i just want tell, i think not just me in this situation ...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cajunflavoredbob:
This is an English-speaking forum. I'm sorry if that offends you, but that's the site rule, not ours.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Wechy77:
I see a lot of inverted addons, can I suggest an other one?

I see miui music is inside (never used it), but i use a lot mifile explorer. It's apoonet project, and maybe he might contribute to add his app to the aroma versions. I thin is better than es file explorer. (The dark blue themed version fits to the other apps.)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Teufel Hunden:
I only found one part :( and that's after re reading several times

Biggest dog on the block, NOTE!! PAed JB
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] GaGiLu:
tell me something new ?!

no make me dumb - or u unable for understand what i want say?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] KidCarter93:
I've just updated the password FAQ with this -
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Wechy77:
I hope i don't break the rules: Read from Post title to Justin signature (The signature doesn't belong to OP, so no parts is in). I readed 3 times, but not to end... and the fourth time i found all parts.