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[HTC Sensation] typci:
I bought a "HTC Sensation XE" off of taobao. The claim was it was a genuine HTC product and was the Hong Kong model.

Let me first start by saying I'm not 100% sure it is a counterfeit. However at the very least it had modified firmware. When I told the seller all of the information I'm about to reveal to you, she seemed a little surprised. Additionally, Chinese people are usually very honest when it comes to counterfeits. If you ask, they will tell them. They will also tell you when the item has been smuggled to avoid taxes. I asked another seller about his Sensation XE he was selling, he told me it was smuggled from Europe then had a custom rom put on it. Other people have flat out told me when their product was counterfeit using the term "China Special Version."

Here are the details:

1) Visual Inspection: Disclaimer: I've never seen a "genuine" Sensation XE, but I used gsmarena for a reference.

I could not find anything at all on the device that would give it away as a counterfeit. I live in china, and am better at picking out counterfeits than most Chinese people. I pay attention to the small details. Sticker placement, words, dates, colors, and everything else looked 100% genuine. Also the box, the beats earphones and bag, packaging all looked genuine. When I began to suspect something was wrong, I weighed the phone. Most Chinese counterfeits weight significantly less than the genuine.

Here are the results:

Genuine as listed on gsmarena: 151g

Actual weight with battery, sd and sim card: 148g

Again weight, pretty much matched up. Absolutely Nothing to give away that the phone might be counterfeit.

I'll upload some pictures later. In the meantime, look here:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=15412245753

Same seller selling the same phone. Phone looks exactly the same as the pictures.

2) Within android:

Total ram: 369MB

Total User Data: 170 MB

Total Internal Storage: 1179MB

RUU: 708 (can't find a real RUU of 708, so not sure about this. Asia uses 707 and 709)

Really strange stuff here.

3) No HBOOT, has UBOOT

Information from UBOOT:

BB Chip : MT6573

MS Board. : konka73_gb

IMEI : Unknown

Modem ver. : Maui.11amd.w11.37.sp.v30. 2012/01/09 17:06

Bar Code:

062401MT0123458328_16291210

Build Time: 2012 06 27 09:37:00 CST

Uboot Ver. : 2010.06

Kernal Ver.

2.6.35.7 (utk001@utk001-desktop) gcc version 4.4.3 (GCC) #178 PREEMPT Wed Jun 27 09:33:07 CST 2012

Android Ver.: 2.3.6

Sw Ver. :ALPS.GB.FDD2.MP.V4.13

Custom Build verno. : 1340760797

MT6573?? Check the link below for fun information.

http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/cell-phones-smart-phones-hacks-roms/3238-mt6573-phones.html

Additionally, this SOC is usually paired with 512RAM/512ROM which would make since considering the phone has 369MB RAM and 170 userdata.

So the result is I'm shipping the phone back tomorrow after work. If you would like any more information from the phone that might help identify whether it is genuine or not, please let me know quickly before I send it back. I already took lots of pictures but I'm too tired to upload tonight. I'll do it tomorrow.
[HTC Sensation] aznprodgy:
definitely fake/counterfeit

has pretty much the same specs as the phones listed here

http://www.chinavasion.com/china/wholesale/Android_Phones/Large_Screen_Android_Phones/
[HTC Sensation] senakunes:
RUU 708 is the HTC Asia HK ROM fyi :)

RUU_Pyramid_hTC_Asia_HK_1.52.708.3_Radio_10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01_M_release_233081_signed is the one I have as a backup on my system.
[HTC Sensation] typci:
The problem is how can I tell a fake from counterfeit now? I buy my phones online because it is normally 20% cheaper. I used to be able to tell buy the battery compartment. This phone was unbelievable in the counterfeiting job they did. I am certain that if you placed it next to a genuine one, you could not tell them apart, until you looked at the software side.

This is really bad. I'm still in shock of the quality of this counterfeit. I saw plenty of people reviewing the phone saying it was genuine and wanting to buy another one. If I didn't have so much experience with Android and such, I would've never known. My guess is easily 90+% of the population would be fooled. Hell, I was fooled until I started rooting around in the settings menu.

Also, what should I do about it? Should I tell HTC? Should I report it to Taobao? Would either of them care?

UPDATE:

I do think I've found one small detail: the genuine phone comes with a big sticker on the back with pictorial instructions on how to open it. The counterfeit comes in a small plastic bag with no sticker.

Also, does the black Sensation XE battery cover, on the center metal portion have a vertical grain to it? I think the genuine does and the counterfeit doesn't.
[HTC Sensation] realsis:
Definitely fake! Had no hboot, but uboot this is also a sign of a fake. The real deal had h boot. Sorry. Yes it can be tricky to spot fakes. Look on you tube and they have a perfect example of a fake HTC sensation 4g. Very subtle clues to it being fake also. It also had uboot. You need to be very cautious now days when buying. I wish you the best!
[HTC Sensation] chrisund123:
Any links? Can't find any fakes on YouTube for the life of me lol
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
If it's that much cheaper, it's a fake.

Simple test.
[HTC Sensation] galaxys:
If it sounds to good to be true, then chances are it's a scam!
[HTC Sensation] xdviper:
Please post some pictures with the actual phone and accessories along with the box it came with. Would love to see how they did it.
[HTC Sensation] typci:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=15412245753

Here's the link to where I bought it from. The pictures on it look just like the phone I bought, box and accessories and everything. I've got to resize my picture before I upload them.

That works in the USA, but not in China. I'm used to negotating 30-50% off products before I buy them. Not only do you have genuine and counterfeit products, there are smuggled products to avoid import taxes. They call them "water phones." The don't have a factory warranty on them, but the shop that sells them honors the warranty. These can easily be easily 20-30+% off. Then when you buy something they ask if you want a tax ticket, which you may need for tax filling purposes, but also makes the store have to pay taxes on the item sold. If you don't want a tax ticket you can usually get an extra 5-10% off.

Buying things is complicated in China. Just watch the old women buying vegetables at the market. They'll haggle the seller just to save 10cents on a pound of vegetables.

Anyway, I got a friend at the computer store can get a "water" Sensation XE for a good price. I'll find out more tomorrow morning.
[HTC Sensation] typci:
Pictures. The pictures didn't turn out as well as I'd hoped. Also the phone's screen protector is covered in finger prints.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/dsc04193d.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/dsc04194t.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/99/dsc04197k.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/dsc04199w.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/dsc04200ed.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/dsc04202q.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/dsc04203w.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/dsc04204x.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/99/dsc04206s.jpg/
[HTC Sensation] gsmyth:
So apart from the processor, pretty much all the other spec, including the look, accessories for the phone are near enough identical? I have an XE and dont think I could tell the difference if they were set side by side.

They have basically used all of the same components, for the housing external and then cut a few corners on the internal guts?
[HTC Sensation] typci:
Everything was near perfect. I'm still amazed. It didn't hit me that it might be counterfeit until I tried to load up HBOOT and UBOOT came up. When I saw the internal memory and ram, I thought that the software and partitions had been modified, something that is common on imported phones here in China.

I thoroughly do my research about a seller and a phone before I purchase. Unless you know what your looking for, you'd never know you have a counterfeit. It even has a dual core processor. It's such a good counterfeit that the sellers won't even tell you it's fake (I know it sounds strange, but in China's culture it's normal to tell the customer it's a counterfeit or "China Special Edition as they put it.). I'll pick-up my hopefully genuine "water" sensation XE tomorrow and let you know if I notice anything different

This statement is 100% true. If the internal storage was larger, and had a better optimized version of android (ASOP instead of a sense port), it would actually be a decent phone. Not worth $250, but maybe $200.
[HTC Sensation] soma900:
If you know more inside information you'd agree not call it counterfeit.

Although looks alike, the inside is totally different. And probably cannot find any other china copy phone have the same board design.

The chip, board and the build are some intermediate designs which the client company decide not to use them for a product line.

Then some chinese manufactors find these designs have "residue value" to make a quick release on to the market.

There are some customers think the HTC look and cheap price is very attractive. But have to admit the phone's performance is really limited because of the low-end hardware parameters. Nevertheless the phone is fully functional.

At this point the design of the outfit will put a lot on the development cost. The easy way is to find an existing mod. Companies who provided those existing mod to cast the front and back cover all have sort of bussiness connections with HTC. There are rumors said HTC kept closed eyes on giving away mods of their out-of-date products for the residue value.

Almost all sellers will honestly tell you it is not real HTC phone. Occationally there different hardware versions, the better the hardware, the more expensive it is.

The bussiness on such sort of mobile products is simply accepted.

Just like many other things, it is experimental. I think it is better to call it "

experimental phones

".
[HTC Sensation] typci:
I like this. I also like the "China Special Version." As long as the sellers are upfront and honest about it being "

experimental phones

", I'm OK with that. Unfortunately, I ask the seller of the one bought 3 times if it was genuine HTC hardware. Her exact words (translated to English) "Don't worry. You'll be able to see for yourself it is genuine when it arrives." That's flat out deception, and since she she knew the average person couldn't tell the difference, she used that to her advantage. The Chinese counterfeiting ability is improving greatly.
[HTC Sensation] typci:
Got my genuine HTC Sensation XE today. The two differences I found were the power button (just a tiny bit bigger and more firm) and the grain texture on the back metal portion of the phone where the HTC logo is. So if you go to buy a Sensation XE make sure the power button feels firm and it has the vertical grain texture on the back.
[HTC Sensation] brilldoctor:
How do they compare in benchmarks and camera quality
[HTC Sensation] hpl912:
I have the XE myself and just by looking at the pictures you posted, it's definitely a counterfeit. the backplate inner is missing some details that the genuine one have and everything seems to be not aligned properly on the picture without the battery cover. Never thought there will be fake XEs.. but unfortunately nothing is impossible with china's replica power :(
[HTC Sensation] gallardo5:
"Google Android2.3.6"

"HQD 4.3英寸 Amoled 1600万"

"MSM8260，"

I don`t know Chinesse, but from those 3 things that I just copied from the website, I can clearly say it`s fake without buying it. You always have to remember that you need to read everything. I avoided buying few fakes by just reading exactly specificcations;)
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
hmmm, msm8260 IS the processor original Sensation XE has. Also, it looks like memory is the same too. (remember 4gb is the FULL memory, before you take away system, ram etc). The only difference is the screen. Well, if anyone would like an AMOLED on a senny, they know what to do :D. Quality of pics is bad, but housing and back cover DO look like originals. Put them both through some benchmarking please. Also pics of the rom would be interesting to see.
[HTC Sensation] evilmastr:
Oh I would love to see someone try to put that screen on a real Sensation. Hardware hacks are fun! It would probably do wonders for the battery, but how is the resolution?

Sent from my wonderful HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
On the website it says HQD, which i'm guessing is just misspelt QHD. So in theory resolution should be fine. Screenshot could prove me right or wrong.

BTW, changing screen is not that straight forward, drivers are required.
[HTC Sensation] xdviper:
Wow, please post pictures with the screen on with the real Sensation side by side, including some angle shots if you will.

I'm amazed at the quality of the phone and how much legit it looks.
[HTC Sensation] mrbkkt1:
Tapping the screen with your fingernail should do the trick. Gorilla glass makes a distinctive sound.
[Android] Superxan:
I'm currently doing a project to develop and implement an android application based on research. I'm new to this area and my knowledge is very limited, however I have basic knowledge only in Java. I really would appreciate if anyone could point me in the direction with relevant guides/tutorials on development of this specific application and the basic tools required as starting point.

The application is intended to do the following:

Works like an image gallery by default

Provide pattern authentication on one of the image the user selects from the gallery (Inital setup)

The pattern zone/click areas must be invisible to all (Including the intended user)

The user should be able to use that pattern over the image to unlock the application (without any trails/patterns visible)

Once authenticated, it must unlock the application and provide access to the user to use certain websites/information etc..

I would highly appreciate if I could get advice on how to go about this project.

Thanks in advance !
[Android] lithid-cm:
Did you read this sticky?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=667298
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] imilka:
[ROM] PARANOIDANDROID 2.51 | Per-App COLOR (newest PA invention), Dpi & UserInterface

PER-APP-COLOR, Paranoidandroids newest invention. Define apps in your regular hybrid panel (same that allows you to scale apps individually and choose their interface). See your phone fade into the color definition of your current app, press home or go elsewhere and it fades back. Create as many combinations you like, you can even dabble with opacity. This feature is made possible by our hybrid engine, which is unique to this rom.

​

To be honest, this is not tablet mode at all, it has nothing to do with silly build.prop hacks. This is the first and only Android rom to feature true Hybrid mode. This rom lets you scale and project every app, every widget, even systemcomponents individually. Remember, android is modular, everything is an app: Lockscreen, navigationbar, dialogs, popups, keyboards, widgets, and your regular apps of course. Apps have the capability to switch into various designs or layouts according to the device they run on. This can result in a complete new experience as many apps will transform to the better.

Now for every element that you like chose a mode (PhoneUI, Phablet/Nexus-7UI, TabletUI) and/or a size. You are 100% independent of the system DPI which runs nicely in whatever value it has been assigned to. You do not need to boot your phone into a certain DPI. Neither will most of the changes you apply require a reboot. You will not suffer from the myriads of troubles which normally haunt you under build.prop tablet mode. Your market, phone, etc. will all work, apps won't shrink on you unless you shrink them yourself. This project will entirely transform your device, but retain the aesthetics and the feel of your phone.

Donations to molesarecoming

to D4rKn3sSyS

to Cyanogenmod

​

Make sure to run CM9 or an AOSP-based ROM : FLASHING FROM STOCK ICS OR ROMS BASED ON STOCK ICS WILL RESULT IN A BRICK!

CWM: YOU NEED TO FULLWIPE IF YOU WERE USING ANOTHER ROM BEFORE

CWM: Install Zip: Rom: Download (Galaxy Note = n7000)

CWM: Install possible Bugfixes: Download (look out for "FIX" or "BUGFIX" prefixes and make sure the build number matches your rom)

CWM: Install Zip: Gapps: Download (find the latest one that carries the "jb" tag)

CWM: Wipe Cache Partition

CWM: Advanced/Wipe Dalvik Cache

Reboot and edit your Apps Dpi & Layout under Settings/Paranoid Settings

If you want to explore the various phone modes, tap "Configuration," chose an option, wait for it to finish, then do a manual reboot

Our webpage: http://www.paranoid-rom.com/

You want to port PA? Take a look here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=27558806

Go to Settings, System, Font size, set it to NORMAL

Check "Auto Hide" in Settings, System, Statusbar, to finally get Fullscreen

Trebuchet Settings: margins:SMALL, show permanent searchbar:YES, Grid: 4x4, resize all widgets:YES, Wallpaper scrolling: OFF

Tina: http://krebsmilk.de/

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] imilka:
http://paranoid-rom.com/forum/changelogs-news

Older versions:

v1.4 to 1.991

Maintenance update, bugfixes and patches.

Based on latest CM10 preview.

v1.4

- Breakthrough: We can finally target the actual layout containers inside the apk. If an app brings only phoneUI, you see it right away as you only have one UI option. If it brings ten, you will be able to pick each one of em. We're finally away from this Phone/Phab/Tab nonsense.

- Total Hybrid engine revamp, alot less clutter, many bugfixes, apps wont make jumps when you load them up because their actual size is calculated by the engine.

- New option: "large" to trick an app thinking the device has a real big screen. some need it, like amazon kindle to jump into tabUI. some even react on it, gdrive will slightly adapt its layout - makes only sense if you give it a small dpi though.

- Panel is still growing. It brings new options and new preferences that can even change android system settings.

- All recent cm merges (Trebuchet, googles 4.1.1 r4 with a whole bunch of fixes for memory leaks, etc)

- Quick access hybrid properties by longpressing a recent app

- TabletUI toggles

v1.3

- merged latest cm10 fixes (gps, etc)

- some additional fixes to tablet mode

- paranoid got its own dir in /system/etc/paranoid - pad.prop is not properties.conf

- a clean backup properties file is shipped, you can make a full reset in the panel in case you lost it with all the settings you made

- force option can be activated in the panel, good for widget scaling

- the DPI sliders in the panel read min/max props from properties.conf, define them as you like

v1.2 preview

- fixed rotation and sensors

- fixed tablet mode

- adjusted some pad/pal configurations

- paranoid settings panel improvements

- etc
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] imilka:
How to set the workspace mode

How to change an apps Layout and size
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] martyj999:
WOW

R U kidding me - can't wait :highfive: GJ
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] KaranKapoor:
And here we go! Imilka <3

EDIT - Downloading! Guys, remember not to post bugs which are already present in CM10. :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] dawids2k8:
This is going to be amazing
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] shinzi:
wahhhhh downloading~ you are the best~
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] bitpushr:
That was fast... checking it out later today!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] kvsandeepreddy:
Oh yeahhhh!! Waiting for this since cm10 has been released:)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] hth2813:
CM10 team and Imilka just made my day !
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] Trijunction:
Great!! Will this be simultaneously updated as and when xplod releases new previews or versions??

Whatever it is..my sincere thanks and regards to imilka..ICS PA was my daily driver till recent past and its awesome..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] bl4ckdr4gon:
Been waiting for this. PA is truly the best ROM that understands a hybrid phone/tablet.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] Dwire:
AWSM!!!

Does anyone tried to flash JB PA Preview over PA v0.5 without a full wipe?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] norge-xda:
what to say? Great :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] Warnahly:
guys this is jusst extremly smooth ,, thank u PA for this thanks alott
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] prana_Sky:
Awesome!!!! thanks for making this possible:cowboy::good:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] Abagnale:
Great, however I'm gonna wait for project butter experience :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] methosivanhoe:
ohhh hell yeah... this is what i've been waiting for...

flashing now :D

M
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] Traxx67:
Hello and thk you for your rom.

I have a question... I am on Crack V7, what is the best way to flash this rom?

Thk you for you help.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] voyager_s:
Interesting...I've still yet to try the ICS version of PA but I will surely give this a try when it becomes stable. Or project butter is fully implemented. Whichever comes first.

Thanks
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] Warnahly:
I never said it was TAAABLET is said its PHABLET

And i know that the tablet mode is not working
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] _A.T.Omix_:
That is what my post was about; no need to flash a GB ROM to flash safely, just flash a safe kernel then flash PA 1.1.

Sent from ParanoidAndroid 0.4a on Galaxy Note GT-N7000 using XDA App.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] hobs0n:
Im trying regular Cyangogenmod 9 RC2 instead for now :) Too many bugs and too slow but it was fun to try =)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] Trijunction:
Sensors are not working on this version as this is based on preview 1 of cm10. As preview 2 is already released I strongly recommend installing it.. sensors work there with a minor glitch and its smooth too.. go grab it...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] rohancolaco:
Thank you so much
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] Leechoonhwee:
Woot!! Anxiously waiting for preview 2 hehehe
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] B.Maximenko:
I just merged lib/hw and lib/egl folders from preview2 to pa 1.1 and sensors now work for me.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] mburrieza:
Gps is still not working after merge, right? Have a maps lock (from wifi, cell), but not satellites available. Proximity, and other sensors are ok now, except rotation that is inverted.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] B.Maximenko:
Yes, that's right. GPS doesn't work in prev2 so it doesn't here. Same for inverted rotation.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] kvsandeepreddy:
Hi ppl,

This is a wonderful preview of jb... thanks to cyanogen team and imilka...

I want to go back to pa v0.5 until a more stable release is out...(i know this release Can be useda daily driver but i miss the tablet mode)

I dont have a pc near me right now... so anyone plz tell me the easiest way to go back to pa 0.5...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Original Android Development] Warnahly:
heey guys

i wanna ask i want to go back to PA 0.5 cuz i'f afraid of the brick problem so plzz tell me what should i do to flash it back

1- wipe data/factory reset

2- flash PA 0.5

3- wipe cache partition

4- wipe dalvik cache

5- flash gapps

are those steps correct if not plz help me