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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iceshark:
Well new company gave me 20% Sprint discount and have become sick of my Tmobiles poor coverage. However I fear wimax might be sucky too here in Seattle. Anyway, long time member here and have been involved in the HTC Sensation and One forums. Both with very very stable roms and kernals.

I was excited to pick up a couple Sprint Galaxy epics and the guy at Sprint had his all rooted and claimed it was smoking fast.

However I came to this forum and see all kinds of complaints of loss of stability just from simple Root of the Epic? Also have not read any stable ICS roms and I have read all of the threads. Plus read this phone is very easy to brick under clockwork. With sensation we use Aroma and it rocks!

So before I move on, I am not looking to break rules on asking ROM questions. I simply would like some input on what ICS rom is stable and supported still as I see many devs have moved on the the sg3 here.

What kernal and radio or what you call modem is stable and how do you find what is for your phone match?

Lastly, what is safest way to ROOT and flash ROMS for this phone?

I did read the stickies but am still confused.

I may be just happy at first to simply ROOT and install the fix for Hot Spot Wi fi and go from there.

Thanks so much.

Not even sure if phones will arrive with stock ICS tomorrow or GB...

Ice:o
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rovar:
The SAFEST way to flash stock ROMs in case of emergency is using Odin.I've found both stock ROMs (GB & ICS) very stable, however I reboot my phone everyother day (windows habit).

This thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1525495 was my starting point.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iceshark:
First off thank you for your reply. Interesting, I have read ODIn maybe responsible for bricking many of these phones is that incorrect? Lots of what I found seeing the people are very unstable with the custom roms so far for ICS for this phone of course stock ICS will be here soon.is there the ability to just root the phone and leave the stock ics ROM and just run the sprint hot spot mod.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revamper:
Odin never causes any bricks as long as the process is not interrupted. Most of the instability is caused by user error. From my experience, all fresh (by fresh I mean wipe data/cache and format system) custom ROM installs have been rock solid stable. Also, most network issues are fixed by updating profile/prl. Official ICS is already out, it is build FF18. Stock ICS will not normally have the hotspot mod. You will have to use a hack to install it yourself. If you want a stock ICS experience, use this odin package (reset user data) to odin your phone to pre-rooted FF18:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1721229

And here is your hotspot hack:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1760712

Nonetheless, I see no reason why you wouldn't just save yourself the time and flash a custom ICS ROM.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] optimummind:
Imho, there isn't any ics custom rom as of yet that is 100% stable, glitch-free, and reliable. I would wait it out until more polished versions come out. If there is a pretty good one to try, i'd say the blu kuban.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iceshark:
Thats what it seems from hours reading each ROM thread. Reminds me of the Sensation when GB and or ICS first leaked. Will most likely just root stock and go from there.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revamper:
CWM is in the kernel. Current kernels such as chris41g's or AGAT's kernels have patched up recoveries that avoid the emmc bug, so they are completely safe. You should use calkulins format all before flashing a rom in CWM.

For odin, it wouldn't hurt to odin sfhubs wipe data/cache, but it's not necessary. As long as you use the reset user data odin package for FF18, it will take you to stock rooted FF18. Regardless of what rom your phone comes with, run that odin package. You don't need to worry about the modem either because it will install the latest one. Be sure to update your profile/prl in settings>about>system updates after.

If you want to try a custom rom, use odin to flash a kernel with cwm (agat's or chris41g's). Once you have a recovery, flash calkulins format all, and then the ROM of your choice. Modems are not installed through CWM rom zips. You'll have to flash a modem zip in recovery or odin a modem tar.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iceshark:
I was studying Sfhugs FF18 thread and it says I can do the one click root and then install option D and that puts in the FF18, with agats CWM. So is this more simple then flashing FF18 and then doing a flash for either chris or agat kernal with cwm?

Should I use Calkulins format before flashing FF18 from stock?

So when you guys flash new custom roms you have to flash current modem each time? or only if you want to have a more current one? Coming from HTC you only have to flash radio when its required to match a new base leaked. So little confused there too.

Thanks your help has been great!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] genderblurr:
I know I personally use Mijjahz's "GOODNESS" ROM and it runs smooth. Many mods and add ons with more added daily. I flashed agat's 2.2 kernel because I don't like the 2.3 that version 16.6.1 comes with.

I also flashed FF18 over my EL26 modem. Modems don't change between flashing I believe. Those you update yourself. A lot of folks stay on EL29 or find something that works perfectly in their area.

Sent from Konnor the E4GT.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cp320703:
not sure what you expect from a mobile os but I couldn't disagree more.... my experance on mijjahs goodness has been better and more stable than stock in every way, hell even cm9 and aokp are extremely reliable as well if you can live without dialer codes and prl/profile updates.... no software is ever going to be 100%.... I say flash away, you won't be dissapointed
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revamper:
QFT.

ICS ROMs are very stable at this point.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cp320703:
you're quoting some of my new user guide here, and i haven't updated it since the OTA came out so it somewhat overstates the danger of bricking (not a bad thing really, made you read, didn't it!?) which was much easir to do before we got kernel source, since then agat63 and chris41g have been killin it in kernel development since they got ICS source... their ICS kernels are safe to flash from and can be found in the dev section, if you're on the stock FF18 rooted with stock kernel i would personally ODIN (mobile or desktop) back to EL26, and from there flash whatever custom ICS rom you like, as far as I'm aware all of the roms come with a safe kernel these days but do be sure to double check and flash one if it does not... at that point going forward should you wish to flash something else you can just do it via cwm as per usual without having to odin back to gingerbread....do note however that you can't use touchwiz kernels with AOSP roms, there asr safe AOSP kernels as well however...

edit: oops, just noticed revamper addressed most of this on the last page, to answer another one of your questions though you can try as many modems as you like and decide which one works best for you, its varies phone to phone and area to area... the modem is not at all required to match the build number of the rom, (example: may people still use the el29 modem with ICS) you can use ANY modem with ANY rom
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] miketucky350:
Ive flashed this phone hundreds of times. Put your rom and any other zips you have on external card. Then to do a full clean wipe go to privacy. then factory data reset then check usb storage. You can skip this step, but this is how to get it factory fresh. Download the el26 cwm kenal. Its posted everywhere. Next open Odin go to pda and select EL26 cwm kernal. Uncheck auto reboot. Have battery cover off! Flash kernal pop battery out when it starts to boot. or says pass. then use the vol up and power combo hold them down until boot screen pops up then let off. Next flash calkulins wipe all or wipe no data. . Never brick never fail. Then flash your rom and tweaks and be happy. Ive done this driving down the road its that easy. Laptop sitting in passenger seat with odin up lol. Plus i drive a 5sp full size truck. Flashing is easy. Follow directions. There is nothing wrong with this phone just read directions if your a noob. I,ll be making multi scenario flashing youtube movies soon. Like mobile tech videos does.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leaderbuilder:
That's all there is to say.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Rayk1080:
Hey Infusers,

I was perusing the app section of the general Android forum here and found this project which I think is worth looking into.

http://xdaforums.com/show....php?t=1747224

How can we be sure this works on our device without risking a brick? And which ROMs are considered AndroidOpenSourceProject? I'm currently running CM9, am I good?

Thought it would interest some of us still waiting for Jelly Bean to become a little more stable. ^___^

Edit: ...that incredibly awkward noob moment where you post in the wrong forum... :laugh::eek::D:o

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=29318624#post29318624 LOL
[Samsung Infuse 4G] saxk:
JB is working great... cm 10 preview... camera and all..

Google now launches nicely...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] benbos_06:
Unless they changed something, it definitely works with our device. There was a post on lifehacker about this like the day after jelly bean was released. I had it on my infuse running ics up til switching to jb. U used to have to change a build prop setting but I think I heard that is what changed with the new package. And there wasn't working voice search at that time.

But as the previous poster said, I would just switch to jb. It has almost same functionality of ics.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
Feel the difference! ٩(•̮̮̃•̃)۶‏

Based on stock 4.0.4 / FW 4.1.B.0.587

Support Locked and Unlocked bootloader

* Note: I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, thermonuclear war, or the current economic crisis caused by you following these directions. YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you! OK?!

* Please do not mirror!

* Requirements:

Firmware 4.1.B.0.431 or 4.1.B.0.587

* Installation:

*Note: if you install this rom you do

not lose

your data!

But after the installation is advised to do a factory reset and clearing the cache-Dalvik.

Download ROM file

Copy to your SD card

Restart your device in CWM

Locked bootloader

no

do factory reset

Choose to install from the SD card

Follow the steps in the installer Aroma

The first reboot after installation may take a while

Open

Script Manager

application

set sail as root

, navigate to the directory

/system/etc/init.d

and select

78script

run the file as

root and at boot

reboot

All done, enjoy!

* Download:

Smultronic_v5.0

Mirror

Smultronic_v5.0

* Additional

* Baseband 77:

Smultron

Mango

Satsuma

Coconut

* Baseband 86:

Smultron

* Remove % battery lockscreen: Flash CWM

* Screenshots the 2nd post!

If you like do not hesitate to press the button!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
Screenshots

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] evilbarcode:
Hey bro, wish I had a mini to test your work, goodluck dude.

Cheers,

Evil.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] hejawi:
Will all what can I say is very good work

But does it support Arabic with keyboard and menu ?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] john9:
Thanks for the share.. works great
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
Hello, yes it supports your language :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] whalesplaho:
OP great piece of work......! :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] samu1player:
U know that u're the mini boss? :0
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] sandy7:
will u release for mini pro..cant wait to test on mini pro..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] proprg8:
Good Job!

Hello Gustavo,

Thanks for this lightweight rom, I've just installed it and it runs pretty smooth. Haven't made any tweaks on it yet but it feels quite snappy and playing running fred doesn't kill my launcher like on the stock rom. Keep up the good work! :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
Wow

Thanks for the feedback

Thanks guys :good:

This is only for Xperia Mini

Thanks for the feedback

Glad you're enjoying :highfive:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] j.r.j:
i hate this sony "setting.apk" its so laggy when scrolling!!!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] I9103:
@Gustavo RD78

how so?

You have written that make rom for all mdpi devices ..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
That?

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
I do not remember saying it in this thread

This only Xperia Mini
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] I9103:
not in this thread

I for myself have ported the rum, no problem, just have a rough day to do this to fix it for the Lww

but the simple fact that you wrote

but really ...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] whalesplaho:
Funny..............:laugh:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ParadoxGuy:
Now THIS deserves 5 stars! :) Can't wait for the next update. Love how it's fast and light. :good:

I have 1 issue though! There seems to be a problem with LED. :p Home it will be fixed soon. Still, awesome rom! :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gihan798114:
sir can you give me the callscreen/semc phone apk & the related files to semcphone? :) i'm on stock ICS :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Allen Hu:
What I'll fix?

The bugs!

If you lost root then get into cwm and flash another Rom.

If can't then have to root again.:mad:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jvdv360:
[/COLOR]

Well, I seem to have lost CWM too? At least not useable by pressing the volume down button several times when the sony logo appears.

Well, reflashing with wotanserver I'm afraid :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] whalesplaho:
thinking of flashing tha ROM on my Mini Pro... Any Drawback?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Allen Hu:
Checked the locked files but no results.:(

All files are correct.

The recovery files are all there.

So why would you lose your recovery?:confused:

Sorry for bricking your device.:crying:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jvdv360:
Luckily it's not completely bricked.

As usual Sony PC Companiongives me an error, SUS says my phone has already the latest version.

But as long as wotanserver and flashtool exist, my phone will survive :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] 42me:
bro gustavo ur come back with boost rom.....nice thanksss

less bugs:highfive:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
The device does not brick, only without root

I'm checking it with Allen Hu
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Allen Hu:
Gustavo found the bug of root.

Will fix it later or in next version.

Again sorry for bricking ur device.:(

Yeah it is only without root.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
everything works

although I do not have a LWW

everything works

hello friend, how are you?

I have this icon lost somewhere on my computer

I will demand it, post news here if I find
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jvdv360:
Take your time. I'm really liking the smoothness of the rom. But next time I'll wait until someone else tests with locked bootloader/SL17i :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
That's what I say...

...understand my side ...

People always ask me porting my rom for other devices, but nobody help me with testing, so it is very complicated for me

I had already told not to do the other devices, but Allen Hu volunteered to do and help me with this
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jvdv360:
Please also check the SDCard mount issue and why the battery is not charging each time you'll connect the usb cable (when phone is on).

I guess it's related (as I charge via my laptop).
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
sd card is connected to the pc normally, only not recognized by PC Companion

works for me here charging via USB

that your phone?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] whalesplaho:
Dont blame yurself brov, we ask for it & we aint complain... just reporting bugs brov, please dont blame yurself brother!!!

MuchLove!!!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jvdv360:
Indeed, we all are responsible for flashing our own devices: no risk, no game ;)

But I've flashed at work, and now I can't immediately reflash via wotanserver as the tool can't pass our proxy.

Still can't mount the sd card on my laptop, no matter what I try.

My issue will be fixed in a few hours when I return at home :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Allen Hu:
I regret now,

next time no locked BL.

For the porting thing is for practicing all the things I've learned.

By porting this Rom taught me alot.

Gustavo is. Like my teacher now:)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gmpdri:
Hy, thanks for your work. what kernel is best for your rom?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
Hi, good to see Brazilians here!

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Fala cara, blz?

Bom ver brasileiros por aqui...

Eu particularmente uso Kernel Mesa, mas você pode usar o de sua preferência :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] RangerCrew89:
bro on lww camera mirror ? why im confiuse now any fix?:confused::confused:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] zerorated24:
xperia mini locked bootloader ics 4.0.4 build .431

has anyone successed flashing this to their locked bootloader xperia mini? please reply, I want to try this ROM but I dont want bootloops anymore, I hate reflashing over again.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] whalesplaho:
Regret?? please dnt say dat again brov... yhu really try!!! with dis i believe yhu have learn & yhu will surely improve.....!

---------- Post added at 05:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:41 PM ----------

no probs brov, we good! try solve it soon....
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] zerorated24:
REFLASH VIA FLASHTOOL!!! wotan is not free anymore. :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] RangerCrew89:
PLS NEED HELP I ALREADY FLASH IT ON LWW WITH MESA KARNEL

NO CWM REBOT ON LWW , FLASH LIGHT NOT WORK , MUSIC KEY LWW NOT WORK :crying::angel::angel::angel:

n my wifi cannot turn on -_-" on mesa 1.6 hav flash mesa_wifi_modules.zip ? :(((
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] whalesplaho:
Mesa doesnt need Wifi Modules... maybe yhu should reflash tha kernel brov & see what happens!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] RangerCrew89:
same before i test without modules it not work to -_-" :crying::crying::crying::crying:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
Thanks for the support

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
the topic of the kernel are the installation instructions for the kernel and for the functioning of wifi

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
third posting in this thread is the changelog, please read it. About KEY Allen Hu has never done it, I'll post it as soon as possible

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] el_easy:
@ Gustavo RD78 before I flash your Rom

Do you Rom have this?

- CWM

- BUTTON BACK KILL APP

- TAKE SCREENSHOT

Very important for me thanks
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jvdv360:
Other bug I've found:

No wifi on sk17i with locked bootloader.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
cwm is now in QuickPanel (as the picture on the post). There was added back button to kill apps and screenshot is still used in conventional mode (keystrokes)

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gmpdri:
Valeu, obrigado. A rom é ótima, mas meu ingles...vou testar e te falo.Valeu de novo.Thanks
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
I have all the options in the menu power button added, but currently will not add in my rom because I noticed a considerable drop in memory, since this rom is focused on speed and system stability. If I can reverse it I will add them. (I might even re-use existing stock as Odex)

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] RangerCrew89:
pls fix wifi cant turn on !

n camera hav mirror im confiuse lol -_-" :angel::crying::crying:

like camera i take in up but it see DOWN in left it go right ~,~"
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
Strange, the modules are the same for all devices, I will check it, so it is not recommended to install this rom devices with locked bootloader

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gmpdri:
Boot loop. try 3 kernels and nothing. SK17. Thanks, unlocked BL
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
on the camera, I will send the patch as soon as possible. over wifi, after installing the kernel reboot the machine twice

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
SK17 many users installed the rom without problems, no idea what is happening

Sorry...

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gmpdri:
AFFFFF... My fault...wrong download. thanks again..testing now
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jvdv360:
As said before, I've installed smultron on SK17i wit locked bootloader.

Runs very well but:

- Lost root + cwm

- No WiFi

- Apn config missing (no real issue)

- USB connection buggy

I'm not a developer, but this seems not to far off of an ideal Rom. I'm now installing bits 'n pieces on my .431 hoping to get a stable but fast and bugfree Rom...

Keep up the good work!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Allen Hu:
The CWM is still there i think,

Just lost root.

Here is the updated version with fix added.

Download

Not tested yet,(on locked BL)

if someone is willing to test just download and flash:laugh:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] SS-4050:
Wow,Just few days after release and this ROM thread already crowded :)

Alright Gustavo and Allen Keep up your work on fixing the Bug ;)

Bug free = More User Will Come And Use This Awesome ROM :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
Thanks for the words friend :good:

We are steadfast in seeking the fix!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] drolkacj:
cannot download th e zip form google doc . nothing happens when i click download
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
after clicking

download

click

download anyway
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Sigray:
Is it working with locked bl?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jvdv360:
I'm willing to test, but please first tell me if the fc on opening the browser and the wifi issue is solved?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Allen Hu:
Please wait a second,

I'm uploading one with the LWW camera fix
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] drolkacj:
nothing happens .

it always refresh when i click download anyway , im using Google Chrome .

and already log in google .

but no download :crying:

any mirror for mini pro ?. sir
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Sigray:
So?:confused: