yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] lemonade747:
Yes, very low, in miui or in cm7, i always have about 170-190mb free ram, i can use Dolphin Browser + PowerAmp Music Player + Google Play Store + Facebook + play game Cut The Rope at the same time with no lag. But in elora, i cant.

★Sent From My U8800★
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] fjsferreira:
And why would you want all that RAM go to waste? This is android, it makes use of the available RAM for best performance possible... a ROM that has all that RAM available just isn't being used to it's full potential. Unless you are getting low memory errors, the less RAM you have available, the faster the system will behave because RAM is a dozen times faster than internal memory.

In aurora, I have 40-50 available at all times, and don't have any problem, it is fast as a bullet...
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] lemonade747:
But can i have 1 question? If free ram is too low (as you said in aurora, ~40-50mb), does battery drain fast? Since i have heard somewhere that "low free ram means your phone works too much and it will drain battery fast". Is it true? And how about battery in this version of elora? Nice or bad battery? Sorry i want to flash it but im at work, dont have much time to try. Thank for reading :thumbup:

★Sent From My U8800★
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] vlc_marcos:
camera and video dont work, i get an error saying that cannotc connect. i lost also the root so i cannot use some aplications.

i come from the last version 13/10 so i have only done the cache clean and the other.

should i do something more?
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] DriftGT:
Same error here. I cant get communication with camera.

I did e full wipe when I install the ROM.

Check that MosTERRA

Tks
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] vlc_marcos:
and i forget to say, my screen atmel, is moving by in self :D
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] MosTERRA:
Camera problem was completely fixed.

Elora 1.10.30 Release will publish this evening.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] vlc_marcos:
mosterra and the atmel sensivite, in my after few min it starts to work alone or doenst work.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] fjsferreira:
Sorry to bother again with this, but there won't be ever a version without the tw styled UI? I'm 100 sure people go for ics also because of the beautiful stock UI, and not having that option in your great ROM puts a lot of people off...

Sent from my Huawei U8800
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] MosTERRA:
Atmel screens can not do anything right now. However, I hope that my friend Forumber can help.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] MosTERRA:
Yes.

I have not forgotten.

I will publish ICS to Elora Conversion Pack :)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] vlc_marcos:
ok thanks :D
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] fjsferreira:
thank you so much...

Sent from my Huawei U8800
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] DriftGT:
I have my backup from ELORA 1.10.13. I will need to do a full wipe to instal 1.10.30?

By the way great job with Elora Rom Mosterra :D
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] pierre80:
really like this rom... i wonder if u can change frameworks like whitelight or cm10 rom, that would be awsome

thank you
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] MosTERRA:
Elora 1.10.30 Touchwiz UI

http://www.mediafire.com/?28382y1jo5qc2eb

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Elora 1.10.30 ICS UI (Standard Aurora UI) (Stock launcher is bad and laggy working. Use another launcher and disable Haptic feedback)

http://www.mediafire.com/?y61xd6x6e7ra6cy

[/B]Elora 1.10.30 Changes:[/B]

Modified new kernel (Based on Aurora 5 / u8800pro kernel)

Renewed RAM and CPU Mananagement

Video recording with focus feature

Lower Battery consumption.

Updated ad-servers blocking list

USB Mass Storage feature enabled on kernel
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] vlc_marcos:
mosterra, so this can already have the fix for the atmel screen?
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] fjsferreira:
Testing right now... everything seems great so far.

Search key is set to power by default, I know this is on purpose, so I won't ask to change it (I already did myself).

Mosterra, thankyou for the stock UI version! amazing ROM!
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] DriftGT:
What launcher do you recomend MosTERRA? Apex launcher?

By the way, tha Camera and the video recorder are awesome. Great job mate :D
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] lethalfriend:
ive installed the new version but in this version my Root isnt working:-s i dont have any Root access :( tell me what to do ive flashed it twice. There is no such problem in the previous update verison.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] sbasil:
MT, you just keep on giving. Thank you for that and thanks for the TW release as well (differences to a stock ICS aren't that big but I still prefer Samsung's approach). The rom itself seems to be pretty solid work (stable, fast, wlan works just ok etc).

edit: there seems to be some problems with root rights but nothing that can't be fixed. :)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] lethalfriend:
i have rooted my device with SuperOne Click. Root explorer is working with root permissions but Titanium Backup Still saying u dont have root rights and busy box not installed :( Any solution Guys???
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] JaymzBond:
anyone having problems with nonsaved settings or classic atmel touch problems besides me?
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] lethalfriend:
HOw to Roooooot This Verion?? Any Solution????
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] fjsferreira:
I've been using it (the ICS UI version) and there's no problem with root permissions :S
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] DriftGT:
Same here. I install the ICS version and the root dot have any problem.

I already use root explorer em titanium backup and all work great
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] sbasil:
Yep, this problem seems to concern only the tw version.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] exxxplorer:
i installed the TW version. root rights not working too... my imei always to go. :S

now i trying ics ui..
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] fjsferreira:
While this ROM is great, it suffers from wifi problems as Aurora 5.0 (maybe it's based on the same kernel and wifi drivers?) unfortunately. Went back to Aurora 4.1a where that doesn't happen and that's it for the whole ROM testing that I went through the last week :)

Sad to miss the new camera in latest ROM versions, but wifi is a dealbreaker :(

Anyway, really great work here a nice improvement upon Aurora 5.0

Sent from my Huawei U8800
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] hung.ngomanh:
yeahhh great !!, i want elora without TW !!!!
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] magui43212:
Looks rather disappointing.

http://www.smartkeitai.com/sprint-motorola-photon-q-4g-lte-specifications/
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] rbeavers:
With 15 more months before my new phone, I hope there will be something better!
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] foxsdaddy67:
that is rather sad :(
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dsims7_2000:
This is sad. Im out of here!
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
8mp camera, eh ive seen what the photon can do for pictures/video and its not pretty, especially in low light

qwerty, cool but id have to feel the keyboard first. world phone isnt a big deal to me personally but its a nice overall feature :). 1.5ghz dual core snapdragon 4 (same as evo lte/sgs3) and comes with ics.

the thing that kills me is the 4.3 inch screen at qhd. yet the atrix HD has a 720p display at 4.5 inches, to go from my gnexus back to 4.3 at a lower resolution would just break my heart..

IMO it seems like moto and sprint are more than happy to play off old stuff and call it good enough for us. the atrix was out a good while before the photon came over (granted the photon was far better). but there is nothing that *WOWS* me from the Photon Q 4G LTE, doesnt seem to be anything that is innovative. im sure it will bring in some qwerty lovers who want LTE and some global people..
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] findthedr:
#$%&!!!

:(
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] tjrhine:
I wonder if it will work with the existing docks. I have a media dock, car dock, and lapdock. I miss having a keyboard and would only entertain the purchase of this phone if it works with the docks I currently have. I was really hoping there would be a worthy sucessor to the Photon on Sprint but now I'm not so sure it's going to happen.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] XxCE0xX:
At least with this release we more or less get photon drivers right?

And

WHAT IS THIS TRASH

My god I face-desked so hard when I saw this~
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] RTbar:
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/07/26/unlock-the-bootloader-on-motorola-photon-q-4g-lte/
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] peetr_:
Maybe I am alone, but I like the specifications. Especially the screen. I like LCD and don't want any amo or samoled anymore (comparing with Galaxy Nexus), if it would be possible. Only problem for me, is hw keyboard, I don't need keyboard and I don't want it.

Hmm, and officially unlocked.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] RTbar:
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...,pd.html?selectedTab=tab-3&cgid=mobile-phones
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] peetr_:
Very nice, if there would be version without keyboard.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] jreuschl:
BATTERY TYPE

Embedded 1785 mAh

Sigh... What is with this thing of going to fixed batteries now??

APPARENTLY THE GSM SIM IS FIXED, ALSO!
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Semseddin:
It was all good until i read about 4.3 inch qhd 4.3. display. I wish they come up with a new razresque photon with 4.7 inch hd display asap.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] XxCE0xX:
Actually can someone grab that .apk for the clock/weather widget I'm looking at?

I would enjoy that.

I think not being able to change sim is a problem for a lot of people.

And I threw my last HW keyboard phone off my house and watched it get run over by cars I hated it so much.

But again that widget is cool. Someone get it please
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] stonesaber:
Try this--> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sunnykwong.freeomc&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd and choose the chrome ring option

As for the Photon Q, I'm with you peetr, I like it and would consider it. The only thing that I don't care for is the embedded battery.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] kbrn:
the only good thing about it is that it will supposedly have an unlocked boot loader

Though I wouldn't buy it.. Still love my Mopho and will keep it cause I will use it everytime I go to Mexico but No more Motorola for me

http://phandroid.com/2012/07/26/motorola-photon-q-will-have-unlockable-bootloader-others-to-follow/
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] FernBch:
The Moto Photon Q!!!

Here it comes!!!! Wait for it.......Wait for it...........

FLOP..................

One word comes to mind - Disappointment
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] J.Parsons:
It would be a excellent phone if it wasent for the three major factors I see. 1) The qwerty keyboard, 2) no removable battery and 3) no removable sim card.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Paperinik68:
I'm sorry, that is absolute FAIL. As much as I love my Photon, I can't tell you how disappointed I am by this announcement.

I expected a bigger, better screen, LTE and world capabilities.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] J.Parsons:
It is LTE and has world capabilities.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] findthedr:
world capabilities in the sense that you are forced to use sprint and pay a ton per minute.

here are some examples:

mexico: $2.29/min

India: $2.49/min

UK: $1.49/min

France: $1.99/min

Germany: $1.99/min

That is far more than a local prepaid SIM would cost you. Its a worldphone, but they are purposefully limiting your choices, and then gouging you on price.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] J.Parsons:
ah ok got ya.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] findthedr:
Just checked finished a webchat with sprint.

I I used the Sprint's sim in india (for example), I would be charged $2.49/min for BOTH incoming and outgoing calls. A local sim (in India and most anywhere in the world) only will charge you for outgoing calls, and the rate is $0.02/min (yes, that is 2 cents per minute).
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] KTT16:
So utterly disappointed here.. Oh well..I'll hop onto something else when the time comes...got plenty of time for new phones in the next 6 months...so happy with THIS version of the Photon..

Dan Hesse..you could have chosen to go bigger, bolder, and top of the line, but you didn't. As the knight from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade once said: "He chose..poorly.." - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubw5N8iVDHI
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] JamesChilds:
I don't know if it is just me, but I feel like the Photon 4Gs ICS update got pushed back to push people to buy the Photon Q 4Gs with ICS... It is bull**** IMO...
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Nerorising:
Found these.....http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spri...ages-and-specs_id32697#1-A-brand-new-keyboard

And this....http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...k-solution-starting-with-the-Photon-Q_id32698
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Fast2learn:
i can't find anything impressive in the Photon Q 4g. it add nothing for the photon 4g just faster cpu.

the Atrix HD is really an advanced phone
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] rbeavers:
I believe it when I see it....
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Toney Starks:
Is there some sort of federal law that bans motorola from putting a 3300 mah battery in phones anymore, wtf is this underwhelming pos moto is giving sprint, and with a keyboard at that? What is this 2007?

Shoulda gave this thrash phone to boost mobile inatead smh
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] sub2k1:
A slide out keyboard? What a disappointment. Well at least the bootloader is supposedly unlockable. I bet that unlocking the bootloader would probably void the warranty, that is assuming we actually get an unlocked bootloader this time.

Either way, if Otterbox can't make a defender series case for it, I'm not going to own it. I just hope Motorola gets the next Nexus because I will not be getting the Photon Q.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dsims7_2000:
everytime I see post to this thread, I get a chill! No clue what Motorola was thinking (Well, yea I do)

286Mzh single core-processor

128K memory

9-Volt Battery

4.3" Suran-Wrap plastic screen.

8-track with Beats Audio

3.5" external attenna

cc:Mail pre-installed!

It may sound funny, but Its almost the same thing IMO!
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] 98Slowstang:
The thought of an unlocked bootloader is very tempting but everything else keeps turning me away
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] MeanJellyBean:
I have to chime on this one. Yeah the phones processor is nice, but ever other spec seems pretty crappy. I agree with peetr on the display. If you want samoled or amoled get a samsung phone. The qhd isnt that bad. I agree the camera needs work and hopefully it got better on the new version! Lots of mistakes on moto part though. Display should have been a minimum of 4.6, no keyboard-LAME, built in crappy battery, etc. Moto needs to shape up for sure. Shape up, or ship out!
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dre89:
I actually like the qwerty keyboard, but other then that I don't see anything that's better then the current Photon

Still a qhd display, still only dual core, and half the internal memory

I really don't see a compelling reason to get it even though I've been dying for a true high end qwerty phone for 2 years

sent from deep space on a random Photon
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] bitbang3r:
The unlocked bootloader *might* have saved it, but the shamelessly-soldered Sim card, nonremovable undersized battery, and small LCD nuke it for me. I suspect its slide-out keyboard will firmly snap open & closed, but it just has too many negatives to gamble 20 months of misery.

Truth be told, the Sim is mostly a slap in the face. I almost never travel internationally, but if I ended up taking a random trip to Canada or Mexico, the soldered-in Sim would infuriate me just because it was there & like that. I'd rather have no sim at all than feel forcibly raped by inflated roaming charges.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] LexLuger82:
Capitalism smh
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] dito33:
... And total sales of those phones gonna be 5 maybe 6 if they get lucky.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] schale01:
I suspect this phone is to fill the gap in sprints lineup for an updated qwerty device. This is the first lte qwerty phone and the first dual core qwerty phone. They want to make the qwerty devices chapter since they are usually a lower volume device. I suspect we will be seeing a pure slate device with much nicer specs from Motorola in the near future.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Neva Eva Forget 1984:
Might pass...

I was thinking of upgrading to the Q, but if the sim is soldered on, I will definitely pass, hopefully the unlocked bootloader will help with the development of the Photon?!
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] iamx89:
I agree, just like they did with Evo 4G to the Evo Shift... not a worthy successor but there to fill a gap
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
anyone looking for qwerty LTE should skip over this. the lg Cayenne is a qwerty lg device with similar specs
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] InfDaMarvel:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/20/rumored-sprint-lg-ls860-cayenne-leaked-photo/

Current Photon Q owners might move on to a different device but those waiting for a higher performing HW keyboard phone might jump ship to this. I for example have a Epic 4g, and i know some owners of that phone are somewhat excited. I also dont think it has qd but 1280x720 instead.

My only disappointment is that fact that it wont be noticeably slimmer than the Epic 4g, not that its too thick at about .55in
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
i guess im not understanding? the photon q has qhd, the sprint press release already states that.

as for the lg cayenne.. well idk for certain.. ;)

from what i can see the difference is is .3 inch screen size and drops to 800x480 (like the epic 4g)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] vp8:
I was looking forward in unlocking this phone and purchasing it over here in Australia but I can't even do that. Stupid embedded sims -.- I a person that cannot live without a keyboard regardless. Still stuck with a blackberry curve. The motorola photon q looked like such an awesome upgrade. Sighh guess i'll have to wait for the droid 5/milestone 5 unless the photon q somehow makes its way down here on a carrier. That would be awesome but at this moment I'm very disappointed!
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] gui529:
no way
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] psierak:
Yeah very annoying. I wanted to upgrade to this from my Samsung Captivate Glide which I love but the keyboard on the droid3/4/photon Q would be awesome to have.

Anyone hear anything about the quality of the colorboost?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Paperinik68:
Yes, I heard it looks like the Photon's screen. Oh wait... It's the same screen!
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Equalizir:
Not worth the upgrade
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
actually to be fair, photon is pentile. this is newer lcd so its not pentile :)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] peetr_:
This is exactly the screen I want. I hope, there will be another motorola phone using this type of screen. 4.3 is ideal size, big enough to read and still comfortable to hold. LCD screens I had (Defy and Photon) were simply better for my eyes and I don't understand, what people like on amoled screens, but I respect that. I just don't want manufacturers to stop using LCD and I am glad Motorola is with me. :)

Without pentile, the screen will be as smooth as Defy was. No need for bigger resolution, it's just increasing hardware requirements, with small visual improvements on this size of the screen.

This phone is not for me, but I believe, many people will like it. I just don't understand, why it's not Milestone 3 or Droid 5, but Photon Q. :)
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] cayjominara:
ROTFLMBO!! 9-Volt Battery..too funny!!:laugh:

---------- Post added at 12:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:26 PM ----------

My interest was piqued when I heard about the Q. I have been looking at the HTC 4G LTE. The HTC has no world phone capabilities, which is important to me. Neither does it have some of the powerful business style functions of the Motorola. As soon as I read the sim card was locked AND the battery was imbedded, I was done. The HTC has the embedded battery too. My question is, will the phone perform so efficiently that a battery pull will never be necessary? My wife's iPhone 4s runs pretty much without glitch or error, and the battery runs forever. But it IS an iPhone after all. I'm just wondering if all this embedded battery stuff means these Android phones will operate nearly as seamlessly. I know that once we start adding custom ROM's and what not, the battery pulls are historically implied...I'm just saying.:confused:
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] shabbypenguin:
the phones that have embedded batteries have a key combo that resets em/powers off
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] halfdriven:
its a cool device. very quick and the keyboard rules

---------- Post added at 05:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:11 PM ----------

shabbypenguin is right on the hard/power down Usually it is Power Button and the Volume Down Button
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] Lightsword1942:
I was really hoping that I could use this in Europe this fall, but the fact that sprint has no international data plans and no removable sim makes this essentially useless for me. Wonder if they soldered the sim because of the unlock hack for the photon 4g. Seems every carrier is trying to screw us over in its own unique way.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] LexLuger82:
Only us carriers smh
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] heldunder:
Are you people crazy? This phone looks AMAZING, i work for sprint,so i need to use sprint phones, and i need to carry around two ****ing phones to keep myself happy, i can finally drop my BB bold and just use this!

the specs look like every other top of the line device currently coming out, screen is better quality, everything about this phone seems great!

and to you asshats complaining that it has a keyboard, WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?! there are TONS of people who need a keyboard on there phone. not everyone wants the same thing out of a phone.

yes embedad SIM*** card sucks, also removable batt. is kind of annoying, but you have NO IDEA how many people i see come in with these ****ty off brand batterys that are ****ing there phone over completly. and on sprint, we will be able to get the batt. swapped out at a local store instead of having to replace the phone, so it's not nearly as big of an issue as it is on other carriers.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] MexPwrEng:
I like it. I would buy this phone if its under $100. Otherwise I might end up with the galaxy nexus come Sept 1.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] findthedr:
WTF is wrong with you?! oh right....company shill.

1. keyboard doubles the thickness.

2. phones with slide out qwerty keyboards are notoriously less reliable

3. built in voice-to-text engine, and virtual keyboard on screen replaces necessity of hardware keyboard

1. 1750 battery for a non-removable is small. If they were going to have non-removable they should have gone with 3000+ like the razr maxx

2. currently photon enjoys removable batteries, and it is easy to swap or get larger 3600mah

3. non-removable batteries are a security risk. Only way to mitigate that would be a battery pull as the phone can still be used to spy when "off."

proof will be in the pudding. I suspect that this phone which you think is "amazing" will have even less sales than the photon.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] LexLuger82:
Ha
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] bitbang3r:
Don't forget, for those who want a keyboard, the GS3 will almost *certainly* have 2 or 3 cases with slide-out bluetooth keyboards (if not *gamepads*) -- just like the iPhone4s -- in another month or two, thanks to Samsung putting an end to carriers making theirs *just* different enough to kill any combined accessory market big enough to support items with higher capital tooling costs than generic batteries and nameless TPU cases.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] kwazytazz:
I personally would love to have a keyboard. The photon was the first phone I ever had that didn't have a keyboard and I've been waiting a long time for a phone with atleast a 4.3 inch phone that had a slide out keyboard. Will wait until NY gets lte first then decide. I have been sitting on a upgrade for almost a year already!!