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[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Funny, someone must have forgotten to tell Google and Microsoft. Maybe they just don't follow technology closely enough to know that they could have chosen Exynos like Meizu (:rolleyes:) did versus going with Teg3 for their groundbreaking "bet the business" new tablets. You're entitled to your opinion but you'd get more support if it were backed up by something more than "my chip can beat up your chip” in a post sent from a fifteen month old phone.

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You guys are being a bit rough on Samsung and the SGS3. Exynos Quad is a great SoC and the additional power they got from tweaking the Mali 400 is impressive. If you remember, it's backwardly compatible with the dual-core Exynos so it's most likely a transitional chip that will be pushed down to mid-range phones as soon as the 5200 and its kin are ready. Personally, I think the SGS3 is a transitional phone and that a SGS3+ or SGS4 that's more evolved and ditches PenTile will be out in six months. LG (a bit player) is already testing a Qualcomm Pro phone with 2GB of RAM that will bury the SGS3 (and One X). Bigger players are going to have to respond in some form and won't wait a year to do it.

I didn't dislike the SGS3, I just liked the One X better. Mostly because of s/w (Sense). The SGS3 won't win any beauty contests but it's not offensive. You can't use it on auto-brightness because the display’s so dim but it's great looking at high brightness settings. That kills its battery but it lasts the same amount of time on a charge as the One X's smaller battery. It's true AMOLED displays suffer a ton of abnormalities in production but once you get a good one the SGS3's display is good. Just not as good as the One X's LCD2. Someone who buys either phone won't be unhappy.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
i actually quiet like the SOC, in fact i stated this in my hands on of the SGS3

i like the soc and i like how they optimized their software speed and made their own CPU governor, for that they earn my respect because if there is one thing HTC fails at, its optimization

but i can't forgive the build quality, a device so expensive made from painted lacquer fragile plastic and so called android flagship/iphone killer, is simply a joke

Samsung is taking its followers for fouls

since when did our entire purchasing decisions and choice of a phone are based on the best GPU? a tablet i would understand but not a smartphone

you people think this what made the iPhone such a hit? its the upper grade and taste that made it such a winner and its only HTC that comes close in the android space as well as Nexus devices

check how much they are still selling the previous iPhone 4 despite the outdated GPU and laggy 3D games
[HTC One X] jonathanyong:
Well most probably because the Nexus 7 is a cheap entry level device that only costs $200 and they needed to keep costs down so chose a low end tegra3 chip set. Another reason is because tegra3 is old and has existing drivers which again keeps development costs down. Google said that the nexus 7 project only took 3 months from start to finish. It's a low end cheap device with low end hardware. Pretty obvious really no?

Also the problems with overheating and poor battery life are alleviated in a tablet due to the larger heat sink and battery. Which allows the hot power sucking silicon to do its worst without too much grief :p
[HTC One X] godutch:
I don't know about the SGS3 but I can tell you that the also made from cheap plastic SGS2 is almost indestructable....and in reality the SGS2 is not even made of cheap plastic but of very expensive calcium!
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Why do you think they made up the name "Hyper-Glaze?" "Coated Plastic" just doesn't sound very premium. ;) And don't forget they threw away hundreds of thousands of back covers, changed the original color (except for the now off-color home button), and delayed shipping of Pebble Blue because of problems they had with the process. The i9100 I had at first seemed frail. But after using it I realized it was built like a tank and designed to be durable. The i9300 isn't built with durability in mind as you can see by them shattering from very small drops and cracking with very little stress. Other than fear of hairline scratches from GG2 I have no fears about the durability of my One X. I've dropped it a half-dozen times on airplanes and in airports and it wasn't fazed.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
yea i dont get your point? the Tegra3 is so bads that it runs all the software on Nexus 7 so well! and buttery smooth? pun intended!

except ofcourse GL abnd their mess ofcourse

you are talking because you didn't experience Tegra3 devices as a CPU its pretty damn fast and in THD games the CPU is actually doing some graphical work, in fact i was so suprised since i was expecting the so called memory bandwith limitation to kill the thing!

on the One X its just the default CPU governor failing it and thats HTC's fault not Tegra! its fixed with a tiny effort like amending them in Setcpu

besides whats your point really the entire media is lying do you when they tell you Tegra 3 is brisk?
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Funny, I wrote the same thing you did at the same time. Consider this though. The SGS3 with all of its advances actually launched at a lower price than the SGS2 did. Additionally, Samsung's profit margin increased based on their latest earnings. For that to have happened the SGS3 costs less to produce than the SGS2 did. Some of it could be that parts have matured and become cheaper but most likely corners were cut (probably where we can't see them) in order to sell it cheaper and get greater margins. The SGS3 (to me) didn't feal nearly as solid as my SGS2.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
like barry said not the case with the S3, just S3 fans didn't realize it yet

im speaking from hands on experience with two pebble blue devices that got in ruin within one month of owner ship

peal off the back cover and be sure not to break it lol and then you will see the cut corners incredibly bad build on the main bulk area and the silver camera ring is coated plastic again, i dont care about all this stuff except the frame protecting the glass is damn weak and not protecting anything this is why the glass shatters so easily on impacts

on the HOX the poly-carbonate will first take the shock followed by the metal frame around the glass, the glass will only break if the impact happens on the exposed edges

i keep hearing these stories about the HOX surviving such bad falls, surprises me to be honest because i used to think its a lot more fragile

seems to me Samsung realized all they need is a GPU killing all graphs and they can sell anything, this is what sold it to my boss to be honest and now he makes fun of it

the screen brightness on the S3 is also a joke, really for all the pre release hype, i see someone take a shot at quick cash really

im pretty Nvidia marketing teams is pretty vexed about it too
[HTC One X] LakshayX:
U know nothing of course. .it ain't cheap..Google is selling it at a loss so as to establish itself in the tablet market.. I being an auditor of Google can't disclose the exact figures..

Its made by Nvidia which is the market leader in GPUs ..not a cheap skate Korean company who is selling phones by duping people ..

The cheapest matrix n plastic n copying everything from other companies ..so don't speak if u don't know..

Sent from my Stunning White HTC One X
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
It's been said before but HTC obviously rushed the One X to market. The number of initial QC issues was pretty shocking. But it really seems to have died down lately to what's probably a normal level (there will always be defects in a complicated mass produced electronic device). The only major issue really was the h/w Wi-Fi problem. But if you look at the fix it isn't a design issue, it's not been changed, but an assembly issue. The spacers they put in are just to keep the back of the phone from compressing but the antennas/connectors are at the edges anyway which means it's highly unlikely they'd compress naturally. So if 2.X (with or without JB) cleans up the s/w issues and they start building the phones right from a h/w perspective the One X should be a commercial success for HTC.

The unlocking the bootloader voiding you warranty will continue to suck but with Asus, HTC, and now Motorola all having the same policy it is what it is. And I’d bet you Samsung changes their policy too because they, as the market leader, would be stupid not to gain the same savings advantages as their smaller competitors. Especially now the precedent has been set.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
never had the wifi issue really and my hox is actually an early batch its the best device i ever owned in terms of wifi reception so that too is a matter of luck
[HTC One X] godutch:
I just played a little with the SGS3 in a store, it had one of those security clips attached to it, so I couldn't properly feel it, let alone that I have had for some time it real situations; so I really can't judge about the SGS3 build quality, I just know from experience/accidents with my SGS2 that it can survive some nasty falls.... anyway here in Holland the 16GB SGS3 (white) sells for e542, that's around as much as the SGS2 (16GB) after launch(actually just a little bit more than the SGS2)
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Mine either. Actually, the Wi-Fi, BT, and cellular radios on the One X are the best I've ever used. They toggle incredibly fast, re-connect to previous AP's or devices quickly and consistently, and this is the first device that's worked on AT&T without me needing to tweak the APN's. A2DP on the i9100 and i9300 are about the same. They suck. The flatness and lack of channel separation is like listening to FM radio. The One X is a fantastic A2DP device. And if people are afraid of impact or compression affecting Wi-Fi over time mines hit concrete (in a case) three times and none of the signals have changed.

Here's mine next to my UK G-Tab which is considered to have excellent Wi-Fi...
[HTC One X] hamdir:
but it doesnt have the fastest GPU right now so who the hell cares about all this :D we want to render CG on it instead of using it as a smartphone!

;)
[HTC One X] godutch:
Even from the beginning with the sgs2, devices would officially be out of warranty if the flash counter was bigger than zero. Some guy on a dutch forum (it sounds ermmm vague but he posted a lot of stuff which really seemed to make his claim seem legit, and no I can't be bothered to find the posts again, look for them on the tweakers.net forum in one of the sgs2 threads) made some pictures from the service manual which made that very clear.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
In comparing Samsung to HTC the thing people leave out is HTC’s obsession with detail. I’ve got pretty much all the One X accessories now and each are incredibly impressive. Here’s some examples:

The CR-S650’s dock mode is neat. You can control media (pics, video, audio) from within it and it’s totally unique from the dock mode they use for the car accessory. It’s also a speaker phone and look how cool the landscape version of the dialer is rendered.

This is probably my favorite accessory. The BT Conference Speakers. They work in pairs for true stereo sound. They are fantastic for traveling because they’re so small, have enormous battery life, and unlike a Jambox can be separated sufficiently to appreciate multi-channel audio (vs. two speakers being two inches apart from each other). And as an example of how HTC thinks things though; there’s a widget in HTC Hub to control the speakers. It connects, disconnects, allow you to control their (not the phones) volume, and displays both speakers battery life. Show me something Samsung’s done that’s even close.
[HTC One X] ShyamSasi:
To be honest HTC One X will be more popular if they freaking market it properly. In our city everyone know SGS3 because you're seeing large billboard and commercial in tv every hour. But I have seen hardly few adds about HTC One X. Seems like they don't pay a lot of profit to Mobile dealers than Samsung because they are very interested to sell a Samsung or Sony. If someone asked for a HTC they show it. They don't even have a DEMO for HTC One X here in lot of retailers.

I got one of the earlier batch of One X no flaws what so ever. Only had issues with overheat and battery which fixed in later updates. The fact that Microsoft choose Terga 3 itself is impressive because they are very desperate to make the Windows 8 a huge success that's why they went and build tablets without depending on OEM.

By some reason Samsung never cared much about the build quality. When it comes to that I prefer HTC or Sony since they make the most beautiful devices.
[HTC One X] shafez:
Galaxy S3 + Sense = Fail

I come from Galaxy S2 and was running Touchwiz 5 on the S2 without any problem as it does not require any special hardware unlike Sense 4.

Samsung don't dare to run a features rich software like HTC Sense 4, And the prove is all the none speedy none sense roms which run perfectly fast and without any lag on the HOX.

HOX is a very powerful device as I see it and the only problem is the battery and if some people regret buying the HOX then I would say one should do his home work before buying such an expensive device rather than buy it and come here and cry telling every one how HTC cheated him.

Regards
[HTC One X] jonathanyong:
I guess one advantage of the hoxl is that it's now considered a bargain bin device so it's a lot cheaper than the sgs3. The price has been cut in half on at&t: http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/7/27/3192908/att-htc-one-x-price-drop-99-dollars-rumor

In the screen shot the sgs3 is on "extreme backorder" due to high demand. So if price or availability is a concern, get the hoxl.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
You can't go buy what the carrier's subsidized price is to determine the value of a phone. What HTC's being paid is the same even if the carrier's give the One X away. I'm sure what AT&T pays Samung was higher than what they paid HTC for the One X from day one. That's most likely why they killed the Dropbox offer to get the phone's net cost down. This guy in the One XL forum said it best...

The carriers lose money on every subsidized phone they sell then recover it over the length of the contract. So $199 vs. free isn't that big a deal at the end of the day. If at $99 the One X helps AT&T to move more people from feature phones and have them sign up for data plans it's a huge net win. And don't forget there's 1.7GHz Teg3/LTE "Evita" device with AT&T's signature on the ROM floating around so that might have something to do with AT&T's pricing and inventory strategy. And there's no shortage of SGS3's. The 16GB in blue or white is $189 on Amazon.

The best judge of a phone's current value is the EU selling price and the One X is priced comperably to other high-end phones. If the SGS3 is like the SGS2 than the EU price will start to drop in three or four months with the carrier's starting to offer more aggressive promotions about the same time. The SGS3 is a commodity just like any other device and Samsung can build as many as people want to buy.

So "bargain bin" is a bit extreme.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
In Lebanon we don't have any of this

Instead we buy it retail, with warranty we pay at least 25% over its price

the following prices r without warranty

the One X came out at 750$ and kept dropping and now settled at 530$ for a month now

now the SGS3 came just over a month at 900$ dropped extremely quickly to what we are today 550$!

my colleague bought it at 850$ and now sold for 435$ due to dents all around the frame and crack around the camera just from laying on the table (the same way he treated his iphones)

what is the reason for the sharp drop and the One X to hold its price i really wonder
[HTC One X] coos lick:
Grief. It feels like feeding trolls in this thread.

I did my research, checked both in the shop before buying, and chose the one x as the one that suited me. Both are great phones, and while the S3 looks better in the flesh than in pictures, it is not a patch on the one x and I'm content with my choice.

Like the looks, how the whole phone (hardware and software) works together, and coming from a desire, know there is a lot of power under the hood waiting to be unleashed when I am bored of stock so it will be future proof for the life of my contract.

This choice is reaffirmed every time my finger runs over the screen to the curved glass edges down the sides.

It feels bloody good in the hand, and I have to carry, use and look at it for the next two years, so these things are important!

Only thing that really bugged me was that stupid skydiving fashion designer ad we had in the UK :)
[HTC One X] nikzDHD:
Different story here in the UK, you can pick up HOXs starting from £260 onwards for second hand and new If you know where to look.

And Samsungs for around £350 plus nearer £380+ for second hands.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Simple. After being out for a while all the mystique is gone and it's just another Samsung phone. They did an incredible job at building up hype (just like Apple) including having leaked pics distributed of the phone with a dummy casing around it. All the S-stuff sounds cooler than it is and people are beginning to realize it. At the end of the day it's a i9100 with a larger (PenTile) display, a better CPU/GPU, ICS (hidden by a mildly revised version of TW), and new colors. There are already 10MM out there so by the end of the year there will be 50MM. There's absolutely zero exclusivity with the SGS3 whereas the One X and the O4X aren't going to be as common as horse ****. "New and exciting" quickly gives way to ordinary. Do you say "wow, that guy/girl has an iP4s!" when you see a hundred of them in clubs and restaurants? Personally, I think "there's another person that drank the Kool-Aid." ;) The SGS3 is heading in that same direction.

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Speaking of "bargain bin" pricing. I literally just got this via e-mail. If you buy a SGS3 for $199, you'll get a SGS2 for free. The SGS2's selling for $149 if purchased seperately. So the deals have already begun. At least here in the U.S.

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Bigoliver had his merry henchman from the Wi-Fi h/w thread have done everything in their power to paint the One X and HTC as the equivalent of buying a Zaporozhet or Lada, at least in the UK. I wonder how many of those cheap One X resales are people with Wi-Fi problems and voided warranties trying to pawn them off cheap to unsuspecting purchasers.
[HTC One X] nikzDHD:
I think its because of the issues that users have faced its put a hit on resale value. How many problems become apparent after a few weeks of usage. We'll see in another 8 months or so what the resale value will be when the next set of super phones are released or the successors to the current devices. I think the SGS3 won't hold its value as well as the SGS2 has done.
[HTC One X] jonathanyong:
The problem with the resale value of a phone with a non replaceable battery is: what will the state of the battery be in 6 months time. Especially when the battery always goes into "overheat" state. If htc are saying that battery temps of over 55 deg. C are normal, why is it being labelled as overheat in the software instead of "normal" ?

And here are the prices on Amazon. The SGS3 has only dropped £18 since launch compared to £53 for the hox.
[HTC One X] :
On topic: so?

sent from my internet
[HTC One X] Warhero141:
Quite amused though. Didn't even see 1 thread in the S3 forums where people are trying to defend their phone against the One X during discussions while it seems that people over here would almost die for HTC.

Tell me, if the One X is the golden phone, why are you guys so obsessed by defending it so fiercely even down to every single flaw it has (last part is just directed at a select few I've been observing).

This thread alone proofs the above.

EDIT: Most unusual of all. This happened exactly between the sensation and the s2 last year. And we all know the outcome of that battle.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Didn't look very hard did you? Their defense of the SGS3 is far worse than anything I've seen here. And with them truly owning the "golden phone" you have to wonder why.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1652250
[HTC One X] barondebxl:
I totally disagree Barry, One x users are far more on the defensive. The thread you provided in your link is an old thread and nobody in the S3 forum is even discussing in that thread anymore. Sure the HOX gets brought up in some discussions just like the iPhone or the nexus but no one opens a thread to compare them, If you check the threads over there, it's all about new roms and stuff, people could care less about the One x comparison as the vast majority of people are extremely happy with their S3.
[HTC One X] jonathanyong:
Barry's right in one sense though - that we'll all be drooling over the next superphones in 6 months time so what's the point in comparing them when we'll all be ditching them soon anyway. I personally can't wait for the next batch to hit the market at which point my sgs3 is sayonara.
[HTC One X] barondebxl:
we will be comparing those as well....
[HTC One X] kelvintisw:
If you feel lag and have quite a lot of icons/widgets on pages, just set both the Windows and Transition Animation to x.5 instead of original 1.0x to increase the smoothness of Sense without losing much of the visual goodies.

The matter of fact, HTC Sense had improved it's smoothness with 1.29 OTA.

Personally, my HTC One X (stock ROM) has no lag and it's performing brilliantly.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
This was posted by a mod in that 162 page comparison thread that no one felt passionately in. Pretty telling.

I agree the thread died down but for a different reason. Early on the SGS3 was the mythical Phoenix and everyone was comparing a utopian vision to a released phone; one that nobody can question had a particularly rough launch. Now that the SGS3's out it has its own share of warts and there's less mud to sling per se. At the same time HTC's gotten their act together and through s/w updates and tighter QC the phones improved.

At the end of the day it comes down to AMOLED vs. LCD, removable storage and replaceable batteries or not, the pros and cons of each CPU/GPU, TW vs. Sense, and how meaningful looks, build quality, and added features are subjectively to each person considering the phones. I'd be perfectly happy with a (Exynos) SGS3.

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Don't laugh at me but I really wanted the Eluga Power. But it isn't quad-band HSPA.
[HTC One X] LakshayX:
Look who's talking about overheating...2 S3s till now have exploded..ever heard of a One X exploding. .

N accept it that s3 looks like crap n the screen is crap which are one the most important factors.

Sent from my Stunning White HTC One X
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Now, now. I'm sure if someone put a One X in a microwave it would explode too. I only hope Samsung sues the scmuck who rigged that story for defamation.
[HTC One X] LakshayX:
The guy was sitting in his car when it exploded. N u do agree with the looks n screen part :p

Sent from my Stunning White HTC One X