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[HTC Rezound] dogswind:
Any modern browser on all the same systems will support HTML5 all the same. Do you honestly think flash is gonna last much longer with Adobe coming out in support of HTML5?

“HTML5 is now universally supported on major mobile devices, in some cases exclusively,” Adobe VP Danny Winokur said in a clear reference to Apple’s rejection of Flash support on its dominant iOS devices: the iPad, iPhone and iPod touch. “This makes HTML5 the best solution for creating and deploying content in the browser across mobile platforms. We are excited about this, and will continue our work with key players in the HTML community, including Google, Apple, Microsoft and RIM, to drive HTML5 innovation they can use to advance their mobile browsers.”

Now sure, HTML5 development has not progressed as all had hoped, but it's clear that everyone is looking to drop flash like a bad habit as soon as possible.
[HTC Rezound] THE-COPS:
Seriously....HTML5 is slow. Look at the mobile Facebook site. Thats entirely based on HTML5. Glitchy and lags...at least it does for me. But regardless if FLASH has to be discontinued or not, it should be done in a smooth transition. My sis got the ICS update on her Droid Razor MAXX and Flash no longer works.
[HTC Rezound] mjones73:
It works fine on the current ICS/Sense 3.6 leaks on the Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
Yeah there isn't any reason it shouldn't work on the official ota
[HTC Rezound] dogswind:
I don't use Facebook much and will probably delete it soon anyway. I just checked the mobile site and it seems to be a lot less glitchy than the damn dedicated Android app. I can rarely view a picture full screen in it.

But anyway, it should still be working for 4.0 devices. After searching around, it appears flash was intentionally disabled by Motorola in the MAXX update. The workaround is to delete or freeze an app called Flash Uninstall, then uninstall flash and reinstall. If her phone is rooted, you can try that out.
[HTC Rezound] big_mike_2k6:
When I first flashed ICS I was having problems with flash not working also until I realized I had to enable it in the browser settings.
[HTC Rezound] richii0207:
Lol? ICS has flash...?
[HTC Rezound] zZDave_Stud:
Not trying to be a douche or anything but anytime that anybody posts anything about ics in the general section, you're always the first to jump on it saying, "It's just another ics thread" when this hasn't even been discussed before on this forum.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
Its just there's sooooooo many of them now
[HTC Rezound] richii0207:
But GB is about to be old news
[HTC Rezound] zZDave_Stud:
n00bs

True. But that's to blame on the noobies who don't search before posting. :laugh:
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
True lol :laugh:
[HTC Rezound] xdadevnube:
I just installed Firefox 14 and Adobe Flash to my Nexus 7. It works fine.
[HTC Rezound] Divine_Madcat:
About to be? It has been for some time now........
[HTC Rezound] richii0207:
Technically, the majority of the rezounds are running gb still. ICS hasn't been released yet, just "leaked".
[HTC Rezound] DownRiver_Droid:
Just don't use chrome or system browser. Firefox or Dolphin work fine with flash.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] joedoe:
I bought a nice looking case with with automatic sleep/wake function which perfectly does what it supposed to do - wakes the tablet when the cover is opened:

However it does too much - it puts the tablet back to slip when the cover folded back:

Buyer beware!
[Nexus 7 Accessories] demandarin:
Thanks for heads up. A really nice looking case. Plus I like the strap it has for one hand holding.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Mike Fitz:
Good to know, I was looking at those. Hope you left a review so the manufacturer can fix the issue.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] SunSDK:
Always good to know some case manufactures appear to add a magnet that is too strong and they had to correct them. Id suggest sending an email to where you bought it from if they have the improved version.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Magnus_CA:
What case is it?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] joedoe:
Poetic HardBack Protective Case for the Google Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Accessories] fade79:
Damn it that's the case I ordered too. Are they going to replace it with a fixed version?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] joedoe:
That's a good question. I sent a message to seller. BTW it has 3yr warranty.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] demandarin:
Can you cut off the automatic wake/sleep feature, by magnet, in settings? I really like this case. Not pressed about wake/sleep thing. Is the tablet held sturdy in there?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] olieebur:
I just got this in today, and i have the same issue with mine. Hopefully I can get it replaced with a fixed version.. It's quite annoying and it's almost unusable with the case on.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] joedoe:
Just received the email from the seller: they are sending a replacement case. Hopefully it will do better.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] joedoe:
Didn't find such setting

No, clips are pretty weak.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Hexdecimal:
Ahhh, you know, I bet if there was more space between the back of the cover and the front (when it's folded back), like if it wasn't completely flat, it wouldn't shut it on and off. The magnet they're using is probably too strong.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] thevuman:
This is a known problem and a lot of the sellers have delayed their shipments to rework the magnet. I was supposed to get my slim folio case from i-blason this week but they delayed it cause they found the magnet problem. Other sellers are sending customers who already bought them a new case that fixes the magnet problem.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] khaytsus:
My ghetto Nook 3G case with a magnet in the front pocket does this too.. First time I was like wtf, why does it keep turning off?? Sigh. :)
[Nexus 7 Accessories] brizey:
Posted this in another thread, but: I taped a few washers to the case under the N7 and it provides enough shielding to prevent the turn off. Ghetto AF, but it will work until the case comes.

As for the clips, I have the same case for my Kindle Fire and it has never came out. They have metal in them...just bend them a bit tighter if you are not comfortable with the grip. And my KF is used by a 4 year old boy.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] TCstr8:
Got the same case, tried to bend the clips in to hold the Nexus 7 tighter, no dice. When I get the replacement with the magnets fixed I might slice the first one open, I'm thinking it is plastic clips not metal. There is a lot of give, and trying to force them in (to tighten them) does absolutely nothing.

Glad I only spent $7 on this, probably going to try the i-Blason one that is similar (http://www.amazon.com/i-Blason-Slee...d=1343436893&sr=8-8&keywords=i-blason+nexus+7) and hope it holds the tablet tight. Got a similar case for my iPad and it is very secure.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] brizey:
Man, I think that is probably exactly the same case. Look at how it is cut away from the buttons...looks exactly like my Poetic one. Mine holds tight enough for me...maybe your replacement will hold better. For me, just so it does not come out when shoved in my bag is all I care about, and this does the trick. I'm a middle aged office worker with kids...my life is not exciting enough for the thing to come flying out of the case, lol.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] iLoloC:
I hope this doesnt happen with the YooMee brand one...
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Cel1084:
Try putting a folded peace of aluminum foil inside the back of the case where the magnet is when its folded back.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] phouki:
They are aware of the problem and are sending new replacements for free. Got the email yesterday before I received my case today.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] untilcomplete:
I tried but it did not work for me. Ended up emailed the Amazon seller hopefully get a fixed case in.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Cel1084:
Oh well it was worth a shot.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] brizey:
Foil won't work. Needs to have iron...you are trying to "guide" the magnetic flux. It is kind of like a short circuit.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] yeahmon:
I got the same one as the OP. I also received an email from the company saying they are sending me a new one. I even got a tracking number. Since I was getting a replacement, I tried to bend the tabs to see if it would hold tighter (it seems ok in the first place) and broke the upper right tab. They are plastic and cannot bend.

Just an FYI.

Just to add to this...it is a VERY thin case. So much, it's not like the N7 even has one on. I like it, but it provides NO protection. It's VERY minimal coverage.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] live4nyy:
For anyone that wants a DIY case I have heard that the metal brackets that house the magnet in a hard drive (HDD) works as a magnetic shield. So if you have an old HDD sitting around (that doesn't work, of course) and have a way to grind the piece flat, that should work if you don't want to return a case or make your own.

EDIT: I found a video of this example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aVxB9oXcEc
[Nexus 7 Accessories] brizey:
Which makes it perfect, lol. I just want to protect the screen when it is sitting on the coffee table or shoved in a bag with minimal fuss, added size, weight and cost.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ei8htohms:
got this case today

The maker also sent me an email before I received it warning me about the magnet problem and letting me know they'd send me out a replacement. Since I knew I had another one coming, I decided to go ahead and try to mod this one to correct the unsmart turn off problem. I cut the little magnet out (it's hidden under the hand strap), ground it down from 1.5 mm to about 1 mm and then slid it into a bit of the seam for the hand strap that I opened up and now it works fine.

The case is plenty snug for the N7 IMHO and does provide lots of protection (and a little more bulk than I'd like), making me question if some folks might be talking about a different case (different from the Poetic Hardback).
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Cybore:
I bought the same case and got an email from Poetic telling me they would replacing my case.

Aside from the problem with the sleep cover, my only other issue with the case is that the claw that is used to hold the folio together makes it very annoying to hold the case with the cover folded back. I generally rest my palm were the claw is located; don't think I could get used to holding it with something sticking out. It doesn't particularly feel right for me to put my fingers between the covers either.

Since I am receiving a replacement I went ahead and took out the magnet and cut out the clasping claw. Luckily the case has a strap to keep the folio closed, but my case looks a bit messed up from all the surgery it went through. I kinda played with it a little as well and was able to get it to not shutdown by using a nickel and some magnetic tap. Probably wouldn't be a good long term solution as you could damage the screen if it fell.

Since you guys are posting solutions, I'll go ahead and post the most obvious one. If you can get used to the positioning of the buttons, you can simply just place N7 upside down with the camera at the bottom (not sure how the magnet would affect the new area) . This way you won't have to take out the magnet or mess with the case :p.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ei8htohms:
I've thought about this too, especially with regards to the hand strap, which is designed for holding it with the left hand. But using the Rotation Locker app (to allow the home screen to auto rotate) you can just flip it over and use the hand strap with your right hand (if desired) and not have the clip in the way either (assuming you're not holding it in both hands of course).
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Cybore:
I have nova launcher so I did try flipping it around. While a minor improvement, I do hold the tablet with both hands so the inconvenience is still there. Right now to secure it, I'm just fastening the strap to the lower right corner which seems convenient enough for me. I'll probably end up hacking the claw of my replacement or get a new case altogether. Did not foresee that the claw being an issue when I purchased it. At least it was cheap.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] brizey:
I have this type of case for my KF, too. I ended up sort of hooking it with my right index finger...and now I feel like other cases don't offer a good grip. I did not like it at first either, but once I got used to it pretty quick and it is the best way to hold the folio shut that I have seen so far. Magnets are too weak and elastic straps are too finicky.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] frozndevl:
I have the poetic, hacked with a washer underneath to keep me good until the replacement with the weaker magnet arrives. I was looking around at some of the others like this for some reason and saw this picture.

Clever use of the strap to keep it closed when folded back.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] taming:
I ordered a case Crown Bold case from amazon.ca and later saw the same complaint about this case on amazon.com. I hope that CaseCrown will also replace covers if it is indeed true. There are not many cases available here in Canada yet and we pay waaaay more than one does in the US for the same thing. I can't afford to throw away that kind of $$.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Landara:
Didn't read this entire thread so sorry if this is posted already but you can call this manufacturer directly at 855-693-9228 and tell them whats up. They will ask for your amazon order number, then send you a new case. They have not yet completed making the new cases, the lady i talked to said that they'd have it to me by Mid-August or I should call back. Whole process took like 2 minutes. There was no hold time.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] taming:
It just occurred to me that the adhesive lead foil tape used to tie flies might be placed over the magnet on the side that comes in contact when held folded over. I don't have my cover yet, and I am spatially inept, but if the side that is in contact this way is NOT the side needed for the smart part to work as it should, this could work. Google "adhesive lead foil fly tying" to see what I mean. It's about $3-$4. You can buy it in huge rolls for other purposes, but this should be more than enough.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ei8htohms:
Mu-metal

For magnetic shielding to be effective, the material must be highly permeable to magnetism. The best materials for this (that are routinely available) contain decent quantities of nickel or (better yet) iron. Doesn't seem like lead foil would be a good candidate.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] taming:
I thought the goal was to block the effect of the magnet--to prevent the magnet from acting, urmmm, magnetic when the two parts of the case come close to one another when the cover is bent back. Wouldn't a shield do that? I thought the tape could be applied to the part of the case that comes close to the magnet only when in this position. What I didn't know is if the part of the case that comes in contact with the magnet is the same when we want the magnet to work. That's where my spatial ineptness comes into play. My case should be here tomorrow, and I may then see the error of my way.

If the tape seems like a decent idea, the same material i often used to wrap the handles of tennis rackets and in crafts.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ei8htohms:
magnetic shielding

Yes, a magnetic shield would do that. The point I was trying to make is that lead foil may not make a very effective magnetic shield. In the case of magnetism, "permeability" does not mean that magnetic fields pass easily through the material, it means that the material can easily be induced to carry a magnetic field when exposed to an external one. This is what is necessary for a magnetic shield* to be effective. Google Mu-metal for more info.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] joedoe:
I got so called "replacement case" and it exhibits the same behavior. The only solution would be to place a piece of magnetic shield or just steel foil under the tablet.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] joedoe:
I got so called "fixed case" and it exhibits the same behavior. The only solution would be to place a piece of magnetic shield or just steel foil under the tablet.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] frigidazzi:
I got the case yesterday (the original one with the problem), but they had emailed me a couple days before that stating a new case that was fixed was already sent out as well. I just took the case I have and cut out the magnet and super glued the case back together. Works great until the fixed one comes. I honestly don't know that I ever cared to have it auto on off to be honest lol.

Here where the magnet sat by the way incase anyone else wants to do the same.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] taming:
Well, I was being a complete idiot. I blame it on the middle of the night--you know, the time when people sometimes mix up things that are effective x-ray shields with things that are effective magnetic shields. Thanks for your patience.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] khaytsus:
I thought the same thing until I haven't used my power button for the last week.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ToyTank:
I talked to the the amazon reseller and Aug 2nd they are supposed to have cases without this issue and they are replacing it at no cost to me. Easy all I did was sent an email.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ellesshoo:
There's really only two ways to prevent the magnet from tripping the sensor on the back 1) increasing the distance between the magnet and the back and 2) adding a material that changes/redirects the flux. There is nothing in the universe that can "block" magnetic flux in the same way one can block light/sound/fluid/gas/RF/etc, only materials/arrangements that change the shape/redirect of the flux/field. I imagine option 1 isn't very popular since many of want to fold the cover completely around.

I have a very large assortment of neodymium magnets (varying sizes and grades) and it has become apparent to me that the sensor is either almost exactly in the middle (depth wise) or possibly even closer to the back of the N7. I've tried magnets that are too small, moved up less than 1/8th inch in size (diameter for discs, LxW for rectangles) and it works but also when flipped around back. There's just no sweet spot that works at least with what i have (which is a lot). They could have made life a lot easier by putting the sensor closer to the surface if indeed the sensor is there for this purpose (the dock theory makes little sense to me since it would be able to know it's docked via +5VDC coming through pogo pin connection).
[Nexus 7 Accessories] joedoe:
Problem solved by taping a medium sized paper clip to the back cover of the case.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] kisrita:
I have the other Poetic case with handstrap:

http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Automa...qid=1343754649&sr=8-1&keywords=poetic+nexus+7

This one works fine. It does not turn off when the flap is turned back, but it doesn't easily fold flat against the back either. I like it a lot though. I hat the placement of the power button. This way I never have to bother with it. The strap really isn't all that useful though.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] yeahmon:
Damn. You trashed your case. Here was my job. I just used a razor blade and lightly went half way around the magnet. I pulled the material back with a pocket knife, pried the magnet out, and pressed the material back into the depression it left. It just looks like a depression now. I didn't have to destroy the whole corner of the case, or use any glue. It took about 30 seconds.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] clockcycle:
Alex at BlurexUSA told me their's of a similar design had this problem as well, the magnet was too strong, supposedly they have fixed it on their version. YMMV
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ei8htohms:
Changing and redirecting the magnetic flux is what magnetic shielding does. We generally think about it in an overly simplified fashion as "blocking" the magnetism, but the point is a little pedantic when the result is the same: the magnet is no longer having an undesirable effect on the components that have been shielded.

Some folks have apparently had luck with inserting something ferromagnetic between the magnet and the back of the case. I didn't try that but I have no reason to suspect those folks are lying or crazy (although we are on the internets...).

What worked for me was reducing the magnet that came in the case by 1/3 (from 1.5 mm thickness to 1 mm thickness) and placing it under the outside seam of the hand strap. This combination of reducing the strength of the magnet while simultaneously moving I closer to the screen when closed and farther from the back when folded backwards has worked for me, resulting in a case that works exactly as expected.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] yeahmon:
It seems like unless you are able to recess it, it will have a higher percentage of breaking the screen where you say to put it? Just saying if something causes it to press too hard against the screen or something accidentally.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ei8htohms:
The magnet is still under the leather-like trim of the hand strap and the combined squishiness of the strap and the rest of the case-cover seem like they'll keep it from breaking the screen outside of a pretty catastrophic and specific trauma. It probably is more likely, but it still seems very unlikely to me.

And by the way, I'm not 100% thrilled with the bulkiness of this case and am not really recommending it or the fix that worked for me over just using the improved version that Poetic should be shipping soon. Just sharing my experience.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] yeahmon:
Wow, I would hardly call this case bulky. I think it feels awesome in the hand. All things considered it adds a nice element of protection for what it is.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ei8htohms:
Maybe I'm just fantasizing about an iPad style smart cover. I'm not terribly hard on my gadgets (never use a case on my phone) and want something a little sleeker. Agreed that it does seem to provide a lot of protection.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] olieebur:
I just received my replacement case and this time it doesn't seem to work at all. Seems like they just removed the magnet. The tablet is not even detecting it :confused:
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Cybore:
I got my replacement from poetic as well. The sleep wake sleep function barely worked on it. You had to push cover a bit for the magnet to engage and standby the n7.

Fortunately it was a easy fix. I just took out the magnet from behind the hand strap and reattached it back with some tape. You can use a knife or a small flat head screw driver to carve out the magnet and put it back on top with some tape. Since you are working behind the handstrap,nor the carveout nor the tape will be visible anyways. The cover for the most part now sleeps and wakes the device. For some reason about 20% of the time the wake feature won't work while the sleep function works 100% of the time. Flipping the cover back won't shut off the device.

I think the magnet they used this time might've potentially been to weak. Pretty disappointing though that they couldn't get this right the second time around. I was already surprised at the poor quality control the first time given that such a glaring issue was not detected.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] RogueWing:
Got 2nd case from Poetic this afternoon. Sleep/Wake function does not work properly. It's a nice case, but assume the Smart Cover function is not going to work.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ei8htohms:
Got my replacement today too and it works perfectly so far. Puts the tablet to sleep, wakes it up and doesn't put it back to sleep when it folds backwards. They also exposed the buttons more thoroughly, moved the little elastic loop that you use to assist in pulling the tablet out of the case down lower so that it doesn't obscure the volume and power buttons and they also made the elastic band to keep the case closed a little less tight/strong. All changes I very much like. Big props for Poetic from me.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ellessone:
FWIW, I cut a tiny slit where the magnet is, pulled the magnet out (stuck to the knife easily) and then put it on the material in the same spot it was originally (via scotch tape, short term). Works perfectly now.

I was also having issues with my stylus being thicker than the elastic loop, after sticking a marker in there and stretching it out for a day, they slide in and out easily now. . . I know, I know TWSS.