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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BillBauman:
You know, you can be very abrasive, and it's not always necessary. In this case, you're going to need to go quote me where I said "Ziggy's kernel is bad".

My experience with the kernel has been across 4 Verizon phones and one AT&T phone. I actually don't have more than about 10 minutes with the latest kernel on the AT&T phone, since the dialer doesn't work. I haven't needed it, so I'm just patiently waiting for the next build.

I just agreed with your own post, earlier, stating that some phones are just different. Some handle different kernels, etc., better/worse than others. I didn't have issues with the ziggy kernel on the previous build, i am having them on the current build. That said, I also just got a MUCH newer (see my post) hardware rev 13.01 phone and I went ahead and flashed as I would have previously, including the Ziggy kernel. I haven't even had to up the voltage and it seems to be a very solid, stable phone. I'm sorry you've taken such peronsal offense to my postiion that I love the Synergy ROM, and sometimes I think it's better to run kernels other than Ziggy's, including stock. I hope it doesn't continue to bother you this much going forward.

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Who the hell are you quoting? I'm not bobcaruso.

You need to slow your roll, bro. I'm not here to bash devs, bash you, or bash anything. I'm here to enjoy the ROM and help others out where I can. Take it easy.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] epagib:
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Its getting a little hot in here! Lol

I think we can all agree that depending on what programs we run and how we set up or tweak our phones, it may respond differently to the same ROM or kernel.

That's why android is so cool, we can pick & choose and mix & match. That said, we should all keep in mind that all these devs are giving us all these toys for free. They've more than earned our respect. We should keep that in mind when we post.

Sent from a SYNERGIZED GalaxySIII
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] sbreen94:
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I wish more people understood this statement. Couldn't be any more true
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prdog1:
I respectfully apologize to you Mr. Bauman. I got posts mixed. That being said I see no reason that Synergy should not run on any device that uses Ziggy or stock kernels depending on revision if wiped and flashed per instruction. We have seen no problems on the different phones we are running. If stock kernel won't fix it then any 3rd party kernel will not fix either. :cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BillBauman:
Apology graciously accepted. I know we all can get in a hurry sometimes and start crossing things over in our heads. I know I've been guilty of it on more than one occasion and will probably do it again some day (soon).

I either didn't type something clearly earlier, or a post was missed. I have only been referring to Ziggy or Stock. So, agreed, Stock or Ziggy should definitely work. I'm not saying other kernels are bad, I even link to LK (I used to have a lot of people ask for that link). But, I prefer to have the exFAT support, and Ziggy's builds in these most recent ROMs have been awesome for battery. I'm looking forward to getting it back and having Fast Charge, exFAT, clock and voltage control all back under one roof. Until then, I'll go with stock on the finicky phones and Ziggy on the newer one.

I feel quite certain the next build will very likely get me back to stable Ziggy time. :) If not, as I stated earlier, I might try rebuilding from scratch (not restoring data to apps, or not even restoring apps) and see if that helps. I'd never had to go that route before, but I'm willing to take the time to figure out where the culprit is in some of these odd issues that crop up along the way.

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Agreed. Although, some of us do donate relatively sizeable sums to the devs. I believe that those with the means, should help support them. I would certainly pay good money to buy the phone with all the tweaks and customizations and ability to customize more, so it makes sense to me to encourage those who enjoy doing it, sharing their work, and helping others.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Schaweet:
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Billbauman so you restored data to your apps? If so, now wonder you've had issues. Instructions clearly stated not to do that. I tried it anyway and had major issues. Wiped clean and just restored apps without data and it works like a charm.

Sent from my SGS3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BillBauman:
So, I missed it in the release notes where that was stated. Can you point me to where the install instructions are? Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ghrubi:
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It has been discussed dozens of times in this thread. Always a good idea to read back 20-30 pages before flashing a ROM. Keeps the same questions of the same exact issues to a minimum.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Metfanant:
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To be fair...if we are going to take the official stance that restoring data is a no no...it probably should be listed in the release notes if its not...

I've been running Synergy since the get go so I'm very familiar with this thread and check it multiple times a day...but I can see why others would miss things...the thread is massive

sent from my VZW Galaxy S3 running SynergyROM
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ylexot:
Also, I would say that restoring apps and data is fine (I've done it for every ROM I've ever installed on every device). What is NOT fine is restoring system apps and data.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Schaweet:
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Eschelon stated it a few times for the last build and I'm pretty sure he did for this build too. I realize this thread is long and search doesn't work well on the mobile app, but you should at least search the Devs comments for some tips when installing.

Edit: wasn't stated on the release post for this build.

May I suggest in the future if you are having problems that no one else is having to maybe list your steps for install so others that have kept up with the thread from the beginning can help you better? We are all here to help for sure, but we can't help when we aren't given enough information to help.

Sent from my SGS3

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No its not lol.

You may have just gotten lucky, but eschelon has stated before that these newer builds (at least 326) need to not have app data restored either. Something with Ziggy's kernel I think.

Restoring apps was said to be ok, but not their data. He stated this when he introduced the superwipe for the first time.

I had always restored app data before that too and even ignored him and tried it again. Well, ziggy's kernel wasn't doing so well so I was using KT. I then decided to try it and flashed completely fresh and wow! Ziggy's kernel is a beast.

Sent from my SGS3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BillBauman:
So, you said it was clearly stated, but I did a search on Eschelon's posts and read many around the releases, the release notes themselves, etc. I can't find it clearly stated anywhere. i can see where he said to do a full wipe, but not anywhere that one of the devs said restoring app data is a no-no.

While I also appreciate the advice about problems no one else is having, the thing is, there are others of us having those problems. I also wasn't asking for advice, I was offering it. My advice, if you're experiencing these problems, was to flash back to stock kernel. It seems to have resolved the issues with the phone for my phones as well as others. I was never seeking advice, but rather, offering it. The only problem arose when I was attacked for suggesting flashing back to stock kernel for offering advice on what was working for me to others.

Let's say the post at the top of this page says in bold, 20 point font, from Esch himself, "DON'T RESTORE ANY APP DATA OR ZIGGY'S KERNEL WILL MURDER YOU IN YOUR SLEEP." But, some of us want to restore that data. So, we use stock kernel and it works. What crime was committed here? Why is it so heinous to discuss solutions for desired outcomes? I thoght that was the whole point of, well, discussion.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ylexot:
No he hasn't.

Here's the initial introduction of "Superwipe":

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36901722&postcount=14864

Nothing there...

r290? Nope.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=37069812&postcount=15663

How about r326? Nope.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=37408513&postcount=16484

Maybe r373? Nope.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38444459&postcount=17931

So please show where it has been said or it didn't happen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] corbn89:
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Everyone needs to go back and read post 16644 by eschelon.

People shouldn't make quotes on things that were not said. However acting offended and posting novels in a dev thread doesn't help either.

Also, about the Rom toolbox, does the fsck disk check, explained by treve, actually fix bad blocks or just mark them so they are not used?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eschelon:
Yes you are correct, the disk check scans for and fixes bad blocks. Once in a while we've seen a user in here saying they get stuck on the updater while it's flashing. This is actually a GOOD thing as it's not actually stuck, we just detected errors and are fixing bad blocks for you. Trev and I have both been able to replicate this 100% of the time a few different ways. If the updater gets stuck, let it finish. It may take 30 seconds or it may take 20 minutes, but let it roll so that it does its job
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ylexot:
To make it easier on people...

So again, restoring apps/data is ok. restoring system apps/data could be bad and is not recommended.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Schaweet:
I don't have the time, nor do I care to go searching the thread to find discussion on restoring app data on the recent builds when I know we've been discussing it forever. For some reason I thought it was Esch or Ziggy or Trev, not sure. The point is that is has been discussed a ton over the last month. Sorry I must have been wrong on who said it.

I wasn't trying to be jerk to the guy and simply said no wonder he was having issues. My mistake was thinking Esch had posted it (I still swear one of them said it, but maybe not lol). That said, some of us follow this thread every day and read every post and know what the do's and don'ts are for installing. We know what has caused some people issues. When someone has an issue and can't get it to work right, it would still be nice if they listed their install steps so we can try to help them. That way we don't get 5 pages of people bickering because they can't take being wrong.

When someone has a problem with their install and we tell them some possible solutions, it would be nice for them to simply try the solution instead of getting all pissed off and swearing that the ROM just doesn't work on their device. It would seem to me that they would at least try the possible solution. It takes little effort to nandroid and try starting fresh. That is what I did when I swore up and down all the discussion on not restoring app data would make no difference. I actually did it out of spite as I was going to jump on and say that didn't help at all. Well, I was wrong and it made the device run perfectly. You may have never had an issue with restoring the app data so you are good to go. Maybe you don't have any apps that have data that plays bad with the framework.....who knows. It has been the opposite experience for some, so it has been suggested to not restore the data.

What kills me is Bill Bauman was part of the discussion almost a month ago on not restoring app data yet still acted surprised when I said not to restore app data yesterday. Now maybe he tried it and it made no difference to his situation, but to act like it was the first time he heard about it is mind boggling to me. Once again, I would think you would just try it as a possible solution. Bill, if you did that already, no hard feelings I'm just using this most recent issue as an example. Maybe you do just happen to have 4 of the 6 phones that can't run Ziggy's kernel without issues. Sounds like some pretty bad luck to me. :cool::cool:

Esch may not have said not to restore app data (btw....what date is that post that he said app data was ok that you quoted?), but it has been discussed a ton on here and those that have followed the thread could help weed out problem if we know what to start looking for when someone has a bad experience or install.

No reason for people to get in pissing matches and get all up in arms about things.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eschelon:
Trev and I finished the build this morning. Testing now. Expect a release very soon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Samsung.Galaxy.S3:
Yeah! Can't wait. * Starts doing a NANDROID & TiBU *
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] im_on_fire:
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A daytime release!? I'm excited now. Normally I'm asleep when these drop
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TrevE:
*listens for the sound of galaxy s3s nands screaming all over making nandroids and titanium backups*

thats just a hint at your going to want to wipe. verizons 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 wasn't amazingly different, but Synergy's 373 -> 418 is verrrrrrry different. Do your spring cleaning now and get stuff backed up, youll have a much better experience later
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prdog1:
Lol. And here we go again. TIBU backs up auto at 2am everyday. Firmware fully updated. Waiting on you. :cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Schaweet:
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Someone bookmark this.

Sent from my SGS3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] NxtGenCowboy:
My other poor nand........ :eek:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TrevE:
Lets see how many thanks we can get NGC - he let me borrow a device for a good chunk of time now. While its almost time to get it back to him, the device has been a ton of help. Lets make sure he knows its appreciated :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] italysfinest327:
since this release is going to be 4.1.2 will the stock messaging app have the group messaging in tact as does with the stock rom?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] takota6:
Re: ☆ ★ | ROM | SynergyROM VZW S3 | JB 4.1.1 | Multiwindow | PDroid | 2-24-13 r373 |★

Simply posting doesn't express all of ones thoughts., if it did each post of question and answer would look like War&Peace..either way we all have enough stress in life that finding a commonly like minded people is to be celebrated ... This is our dailey soap opera.. In the words of Rodney King

"Can't we all just get Along?"

Now back to the excitement that team synergy is about to unleash.. Thankyou
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Mystikalrush:
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*cough* *clears throat*

Sorry, just getting my school girl scream ready.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dnstommy:
I just installed the 373 build coming from some older build along the way. I just noticed that I don't have Google Talk (gtalk) installed. Doing a little searching this seemed to be an issue way back in the 100's of the nightlies but not now.

Does anyone have this same issue? Is there an APK I can install for the 4.1.1 version of gtalk?

Thanks all
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prdog1:
Just dirty flash and install GTalk. You missed the option. May be other things you missed. Or wait for new release sometime tonight. :cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dnstommy:
Thank you. I'll give it a go.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mikeman45:
Re: ☆ ★ | ROM | SynergyROM VZW S3 | JB 4.1.1 | Multiwindow | PDroid | 2-24-13 r373 |★

Prdog looks like you'll have some work to do with your theme with this new update being "verrry different' as treve says. Can't wait to see what synergy has in store for us :cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ryan1977:
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Can't wait to see how much different this is, it might bring me back from the land of aosp.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prdog1:
Shouldn't be too bad. Theme already set up for 4.1.2. Just have to build new SystemUI. :cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] d69oh:
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That's great news prdog hope it goes smooth
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TheMainCat:
How do you keep your firmware fully updated? If you could point me in the right direction, would be much obliged.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] wolfnut88:
Fairly certain it has to do with updating your RPM, wish I had a link for you.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 05Warrior:
Re: ☆ ★ | ROM | SynergyROM VZW S3 | JB 4.1.1 | Multiwindow | PDroid | 2-24-13 r373 |★

No for the firmware u need to Odin back to stock 4.1.1 flash that and take the OTA. Then flash back to the older boot chain re root, unlock and a few other things. Then flash the new boot chain and u will be good to go.

I just did all that last night. It's not that hard just time consuming.

Here is one link for rooting...http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2046439#

here is the link for the stock 4.1.1....http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390225151984926733
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jlyle:
Only takes 10 min depending on skill level. HA :cool::p .. No comments from you PR. :p
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 05Warrior:
Ten min :) it took me that long just load up 4.1.1 :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] t1231:
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Hate to be the one to ask but....will updating the firmware prior to the next release be necessary or just recommended. Thanks,
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prdog1:
Not necessary but I'm always on latest firmware. Not sure if that has any berring on me never having any flash problems or not. I always match the firmware to the base. :cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] t1231:
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Thanks, was hoping that was the response I was going to get. So far haven't had and flash problems other than the ones I have created myself.

Knock on wood.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eschelon:
Figured I would use your comment to state officially:

No, it will not be required. I haven't updated anything and I'm on the latest build just fine :good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] chethammer:
Where does one get the proper stock verizon 4.1.1?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jlyle:
look about 7 post above yours :cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mikeman45:
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Wow that's bad. Ok so you obviously didn't search but come on its on the same page as your post. At least read what's on that page.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 05Warrior:
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Just look up lol :eek:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] chethammer:
So sorry I ruined your day by asking a question. In a thread this size that search could merit a 1000 posts. I would like to thank the few guys who gave me a straight answer and didn't feel the need to chastise me for it. Not to start any arguments. There are a lot of file downloads out there that aren't kosher to put on your phone and I wanted to make sure I got the one they were talking about. PRdog, Thank you. Mike, well.... I'm thinking of a gesture, guess what it is.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 05Warrior:
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The point is that u didn't even need to do a search I put the link on the same page u posted. Fact is ur the one that should feel guilty for not looking on the page. U have no right saying what u did in ur post.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mikeman45:
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Right back at you chet. FYI when you do a search it gives you the most recent so you probably would only have to go through one or maybe 2 of the results. Also I understand sometimes your not on your computer and xda app doesn't search the right way so it's easier just to ask but when the answer to your question is a few posts above yours and on the same page none the less that's just lazy and when people do this over and over and ask the same questions over and over without doing a little bit of research it pi$$e$ people off. Ok you have your self a good day now, hope you find what you're looking for :rolleyes:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eschelon:
Cheer up, fellas :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mikeman45:
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All is well. Looking forward to seeing the goods. :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] wingtytn:
it feels like the nite before christmas and im 9yrs old again... lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] t1231:
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thank you sir, hopefully this will eliminate some repeat questions down the road......ha, ha....ha, ha....ha
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] chethammer:
Sort of my point. Why should you personally be pi**ed off if I ask a question. Did it hurt you? Were you personally offended that I asked a question that had been answered very recently? Most of the time you ask for a link to a stock ROM you get referred to a completely different page which I did after I looked a few posts above mine. I messed up and thought those links were part of his sig. Sorry, it has been a long and stressful day. It's actually OK to be pleasant and cordial to each other without biting someones head off. We all make mistakes and I'm sure you've made a few. I'll bet you've even asked without searching before. Save the anger and angst for someone who raises your hackles in person not some stranger on a forum.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prdog1:
It's over now so everybody drop it. Spend your time getting ready the best you can for the drop. :cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] babydo:
Was just about to post a very similar response :good: OT- just updated firmware and backups, all ready to go~
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 05Warrior:
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Looking forward to this new release
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] xM Minton Mx:
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You Sir get ready for the drop. So you can get your theme redid lol.

And i see why I hardly check this any more. I get a smooth rom with no problems and I see no reason to read up lol. I just skip thru but it's like every time you check something off topic and arguing is right there. Bleh oh well ill check back again soon. Maybe esch and treve will be done. The past few releases have been truly solid. I love when they preach up the upcoming release.