yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
I've switched back to EliteMod in the meantime (normal working hours have approached), I haven't had much time to test extensively how multitasking behaves (i.e.: Facebook, twitter, etc) or any graphical type of games etc.

The free ram at just bout any time is around 10MB, and uptime showing loads around 5.0 on average. The launcher can lag a bit on redraw even if you got the device clocked to 1400mhz (I believe it's more a ram issue than anything, so between supercharger V6 and swap, it might be bearable.)

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Oh also adb connectivity is somewhat glitchy. Devices never showed up during the initial boot, and had to mess with the power menu a couple of times (between charge only, HTC sync, and disk) to get it to show up and be able to do stuff with adb shell. Switching between various USB modes tends to be laggy.

Though one nice thing about the preview is that I did not receive a single force close or crash, just lags, and some functionality not occurring at all (i.e.: trackpad wake, FM radio).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] robuser007:
Desire HD (ace), Desire Z (vision), Inspire 4G bugs

When phone goes into sleep you need to make a long press of the power button to wake it up

Mic doesn't work in some apps like Voice Search, Soundhound, ...

Camera isn't working on some phones

Camcorder only works with disabling sound in the video settings
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
I have a funny feeling it's going to turn into a bit of a 'can you port Sense Camera to XXX ICS Rom?', when it was the other way around.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
FM Radio appears to be broken on both the included FM app, and the FM Radio Widget.

Though fine with SpiritFM Free Edition (which of course requests root permission).

Also the stock FM Radio app, seems to never turn off, it's always "Turning Off", and when the dialog does go away, it's still "On" (showing the icon in the status bar)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] BootloopedMillennials:
How's video recording, 720p?

The above mention of 10MB of free RAM is scaring me away from trying it though. Hell with CM7 as soon as it hits 70MB's, I feel like its lagging too much.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] btrst:
Tried some games with this, with supercharger, swap and 1.4ghz o/c:

Temple Run: Without swap it closes immediately, with swap its getting huge lags while playing, but when theres no lags its smoother then previous kernels.

Death Rally: Smooth as s..t.

Helicopter 3D: Smooth as f..k.

these games rather heavy considering their 3d natures. so its a good thing that this rom can run them smoothly.

generally speaking, if you make this your dd, it will drive you crazy time to time because the interface is slower then most of the roms out there. hope it will get better tho.

edit: with swap and supercharge i get 100-120 mb free ram ( at least it shows that way on the task manager)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
I find this pretty common of just about every ICS rom though (mostly cached it would seem). i.e.: free ram is wasted ram.

I'll try out the video soon as TiB does some app restores (I kind of doubt it's full 720, but maybe it'll surprise me).

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By the way home screen lag ain't so bad once you replace HTC Sense with the Apex Launcher :P (though I guess some people want the whole experience :D)

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720p is Selectable (though 1080p is also shown, obviously won't record at that though), however when you finish recording and had audio turned on, it's the forever-saving-video issue.

With audio off... did saving video for a while, and then force closed, and also a very funky buffer issue (like the screen split in half and scrolled up while recording.

The result from both are files with thumbnails with exclamation marks.

Now if I set the Video quality to 800x480 Wide (default), and audio off, it saves fine.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] john9:
I respect your work.I'm about to try.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Steven How:
Can't even get it working it lag badly after the setup and hot reboot more than 6 times =\ anyway,good job to them as they get the camera working :D make me looking forward for updates XD
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Would help if your hboot/radio/etc info was in your signature :P
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Steven How:
Ah...I forget abt radio and all those...:( does it effect the performance? And I'm using a Italian dz not g2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
As long as it's a DZ hboot it should be fine (i.e.: because the G2 hboot only has a ~400MB /system which is way too small, as this preview takes up about 96% of /system on DZ hboot).

Also depending on what rom you're coming from (i.e.: /system, etc may still be formatted as ext3 instead of ext4).

And far as radio... I don't know if this requires 26.13.04.19 or equivalent.

I guess if you can attempt a logcat output, might be helpful to someone who knows how to read those things.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Steven How:
I'm using 4ext recovery and I only left 20mb in my system space..I have restore back to ARHD 6.3.3.. until infinity become more rock stable perhaps? :rolleyes: hope so :p
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Hence why it NEEDs the DZ hboot :D

it is an alpha/preview :P

I enabled swap with this script http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1169731/swap_enabler.sh (ie: pop it on /data/local/tmp, chmod 775 , run it, reboot). So will see how SD-swap helps it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
I would remove some unesacary apps from the Rom to free up space
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Steven How:
I DO know how to enable swap lol,:p but it still lag badly.. after opening an app it hang there and finally reboot...lol I understand it's an alpha build so I'm not that demanding for the best performance for now :o
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Seems kind of pointless since the /system partition isn't normally going to change after installation. So removing those apps from /system doesn't really give you much benefits in 'freeing up space'. If it were on /data/app that'd be a different story, but it's pretty light in that department upon start.

Now you *could* disable some system apps (if it won't break anything) to improve some degree of performance, but then again what would be the point of testing/previewing if you didn't take it as is.

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So with 128MB swap on, overall it does seem smoother. However for any *new* item, there can be occasional freezes for a few seconds, in which time I'll notice the swap usage (via adb shell) will jump 20-30MB at a time, eventually once the phone has unfrozen it'll be quite smooth after that. In the last 3 freezes I've jumped from about 30MB to 60MB to 96MB.

Right now it's down to 87MB after about a minute since the last freeze (added a power widget to the desktop, taped the brightness, froze for about 15-20 seconds, changed the brightness, was smooth after that).

Also I'm not using the launcher that came with it, but rather Apex Pro and fancy widgets.

current memory usage, uptime and top:

root@android:/ # free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 370420 360300 10120 0 600
-/+ buffers: 359700 10720
Swap: 131580 88232 43348
root@android:/ # uptime
15:25:04 up 34 min, load average: 2.69, 3.22, 3.40

Mem: 360772K used, 9648K free, 0K shrd, 1020K buff, 57144K cached
CPU0: 5.7% usr 5.7% sys 0.0% nic 88.4% idle 0.0% io 0.0% irq 0.0% sirq
Load average: 2.18 2.93 3.29 2/680 8348
PID PPID USER STAT VSZ %MEM CPU %CPU COMMAND
316 104 1000 S 425m117.2 0 2.3 com.android.systemui
209 104 1000 S 403m111.3 0 1.1 system_server
7173 104 10148 S 378m104.5 0 0.0 com.facebook.katana
421 104 10165 S 373m103.0 0 0.0 com.anddoes.launcher
467 104 10141 S 372m102.7 0 0.0 com.htc.idlescreen.shortcut
513 104 10018 S 351m 97.0 0 0.0 android.process.acore
3783 104 10017 S 334m 92.2 0 1.1 com.google.process.gapps
501 104 1001 S 329m 91.0 0 2.3 com.android.phone
760 104 9999 S 322m 89.0 0 0.0 com.htc.launcher
7847 104 1000 S 313m 86.4 0 0.0 com.android.settings:remote
1323 104 10018 S 310m 85.6 0 0.0 com.android.htccontacts
482 104 10163 S 310m 85.5 0 0.0 com.touchtype.swiftkey
7394 104 10106 S 309m 85.3 0 0.0 com.android.mms
7882 104 10017 S 301m 83.0 0 0.0 com.google.android.gsf.login
8235 104 10014 S 301m 83.0 0 0.0 com.htc.calendar
8192 104 10014 S 301m 83.0 0 0.0 com.htc.bg
8163 104 9996 S 300m 82.9 0 0.0 com.htc.notes
7862 104 10153 S 300m 82.8 0 0.0 com.google.android.googlequicksear
8214 104 10146 S 300m 82.7 0 0.0 com.dropbox.android
5568 104 10162 S 298m 82.3 0 0.0 com.mhuang.overclocking.ProfilesSe
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Steven How:
This rom didn't come with virtuous oc?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Don't think so, didn't see anything in the app drawer that was like SetCPU (which I restored myself from TiB), and course task manager is just well a task manager.

And when I went thru all the system settings there was nothing in there for clock speed.

Under SetCPU the only governors available are : conservative (which it picked default), on demand, userspace, power save, interactive, and performance

with the following choices of schedulers : noon, deadline, cfq, sio

I've attached the full ps output if you wana see all the processes currently up and running.

In any case I'm going to go ahead and back it up and revert to EliteMod for now. (by the way swap shot up to 119MB when it froze on 'recovery' menu tap in 4EXT control, after about 30 seconds the SuperUser Grand Request dialog showed up when the freezing stopped). Swap usage went back down to 74MB at the time of typing this.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blk_jack:
Neither did virtuous quattro
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
... hey blk_jack....

*looks around*

*pst* 'steal' their camera driver code... Dooooo It... Dooooo It (lol though asking you to pull code from sense into andromadus [or would it be CM9 technically?] asking for quite a bit lol).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] yozgatg:
Lol, that wouldn't even be possible. Sense camera libs only work in Sense roms. AOSP/CM9 always uses different camera software/libraries/kernel.

I think it's a better idea to have a fully functional Sense 4A (the light version) rom on our devices since our RAM is limited. Hmm, might have to look into that ..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
lol yea I know, but I think Virtuous wrote the camera drivers from scratch, as such there would be source codes, as opposed to the situation of only having already compiled drivers to work with.

But speaking of other sense roms, Might see Sensewhich or other similar sense roms running 4.0.3 incorporate the camera though.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flinny:
3.x builds of andromadus have been using camera libs from primou sense rru for a while now... the problem isn't the drivers it's the framework and how they are used.... ;) Anyway congrats to Virtuous on getting the rom to this point!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
By the way video I recorded flipping thru the phone with this rom on it (128MB SD swap activated, and using Apex launcher).

[YOUTUBE]Tone9170ni0[/YOUTUBE]

I tried to make it obvious where there may have been unresponsiveness (i.e.: the home button etc).

It's kind of a crappy video, but least you can see what's going on the screen.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] HTCTOUCHPRO91:
+1 for a fully working sense 4A :fingers-crossed:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Whoareyou:
if you flash the kernel from this rom on Sensewich it (camera) works
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
But don't you lose wifi as a result?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Steven How:
Can u extract the kernel from infinity? And can the WiFi still works?:confused:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] johrie:
Maybe try it on primadonna?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] michuo:
i've tried it ,but wifi didn't work.

and there is some issues with the USB connecting, too.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sorceforge:
I installed kernel(boot.img) and bcmdhd.ko. It seems that wifi does not working like other people said. Also, camera app shows me preview, but it doesn't take correct picture. What files did you replace?

p.s. : In terms of Wi-fi, maybe we need to edit framework files like Flinny did while making his 3.0 kernel roms.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hcthanh1610:
everything work, but very slow
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
ok, first time on sense 4 here....

first impression is the setup, VERY slow and laggy.

next is the sense launcher.... or the "loading" that took forever, and the phone went asleep waiting.... then the launcher came, and everything was settled

extreme lockups after the sense launcher appeared... i'll reboot and leave it for about 10mins to see if this rom will settle in

EDIT: tested the cam... results are... kinda good, and bad:

(see the attachement)

that's a pic of me playing Driver San Fran on my PC... and the cam clearly performs good...

as for video, i didn't upload one, because it never finished "saving..." i waited a whole 20mins for it... and when i stopped it, i got a 14MB corrupted file..

oh and for the pic, when i hold the shoot button, i get a burst sound (tic-tic-tic-tic-tic) but when i release the button i only get two-three pics... that's because the phone can't hold that much pics... so you might as well remove the burst sound ;)

EDIT EDIT: aaannd it's time to restore the old backup... i never liked sense on this phone... seems always slow, laggy... even sense 2...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] arhung:
no more news for this great rom??
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Did you read the part about camera probably not saving videos unless you disable sounds? Personally I want the working camera (Still shots) with the effect overlay working (And in third party apps) on a non-Sense rom.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
yes i read that... and i'm confirming it

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i didn't mean to mock you or to offend you in any kind of way
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] alexinc:
its quite easy, feature-complete sense 4A-rom is a show stopper for this one on our visions... ;) but without the hard work of team virtuous the before mentioned wouldnt be possible!!!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Thijs_W:
Alpha 2 released!

http://www.virtuousrom.com/2012/07/virtuous-infinity-v1310-alpha2.html
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
Great, thanks for the heads up. Will try to update op on my phone soon lol
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] roman.goncharenko:
It's too slowly
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hcthanh1610:
can't do anything, very slow >,<
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Hai_Duong:
Thats true... the functions are great and tweaks too but performance is very bad.

I always get some flickering when i touch the screen example app drawer when i scroll.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Indiwiz:
hopefully virtuous will keep the primadonna series going for devices like ours.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Since full sense 4.0 isn't much slower than sense 4.0A (if both were using the same 3.0 kernel and benifits) I doubt they'll bother with primadonna much further.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Thijs_W:
Primadonna was already declared dead earlier...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28976840&postcount=136
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Basically the same bit I heard in IRC. Guess they figured once it's beyond 'preview/alpha' stage, it'll likely be performing better. But alas our G2/DZ can only take so much, might not be able to take the Full Sense 4.0 with everything working 100% without *some* complaints.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Sheikmans:
I have used their Alpha2 for a couple of hours but to be honest...it is not bad at all. My Desire Z runs rather smoothly. Lag occurs sometimes but not really an issue. For me this one is better than the Sense 4A roms because they lack the longpress function on hardware keyboard. And by the way, bluetooth works!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] btrst:
In alpha2 screen constantly flickers while doing stuff. Any of you have this problem?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] foefur:
This happend to me as well
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
Does anyone still have lag after supercharging?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flow-Wolf:
Hello,

I have tested this rom :p

And you know what!??? I have also wrote an article and record a video !

It's amazing!!

article: DHD virtuous Infinity first full Sense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js7y1u_ffk8

[YOUTUBE]Js7y1u_ffk8[/YOUTUBE]

Enjoy :p
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zofox:
i thimk full sense as to be tweaked a lot to work with 512 mb of ram :(
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Steven How:
Yeah...sad thing :( I hope the developer can reduce the memory usage and weight of it =\
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Technically you mean ~384MB, since the rest of seems to be reserved to the system (radio, etc). [check free output to see what I mean]. Where as a DesireHD would be closer to using 512MB for the system itself (thus why it was originally slated to get ICS).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
You could increase the oom values but also lock the llauncher from being killed, I dono if that would help
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rirozizo:
so baisically implement V6 supercharger... i don't see why not..

actually i'm really surprised why none of our ROMs have one built in

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pm me if you need any app... ANY app
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Talebs:
Upgarding to Desire HD :cowboy:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jspina:
I believe that blk_jack has implemented supercharger in some of his roms. I am not sure if he did it for mimicry but he did it for andromadus.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
He did for Andromadus Mimicry. The 'multitasking' profile if you choose to install it from the mimicry aroma installer.

Though you usually don't get a choice of which kind of profile to configure unless you install SuperCharger manually (hence why not all roms include it).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Talebs:
Yeah!!! just got my Inspire 4G!!! maan what a piece of art!:p

Such a huge screen:D it reminded me of my beloved hd2:crying: King of phnes and an alrounder :good:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Talebs:
Installed Virtious Infinity to my Inspire 4G and maan what a smooth and swift rom ... everythings working too!

I will request the OP to pls update what is working as per the virtous site : www.virtuousrom.com/ and there is also a camera fix for the inspre device he should point to that as well and Pls open a same thread in Inspire 4G section as well. Thanks:o
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Hai_Duong:
ohmmm a question why are posting something like this in a desire Z thread oô ? Most of the things works on the desire z with Sense4A ROM too. Please dont talk OffTopic here I check sometimes here for Information and not what the Inspire 4G works or not ^^
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] The Android Manual:
Change your post you might get flamed for this :) just saying :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Talebs:
Devices Supported:

Desire Z / G2

Desire HD

Inspire 4G

My Touch 4G

Desire S

Incredible S

My Touch 4G Slide

Incredible 2

OP didn't get flamed for this ?? then why me ?? and I am not offtopic here... this rom flashes to a Inspire 4G (incase you guys didn't know that :rolleyes:)

and read my post one more time I clearly asked him to open up a thread in inspire section.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] btrst:
G2 and Desire Z - G2 and Desire Z Android Development

- [ROM][30 July] Virtuous Infinity 1.31.0 Is Out! [FULL Sense 4+Working Camera!}

meaning this topic was not created for people to say how good this rom works on their non-desirez device. and it is the exact meaning of offtopic what you just did.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] foefur:
1.33.0 alpha 3 has been released http://bit.ly/MYo0dM
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Sheikmans:
Has anybody tried it yet?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] johrie:
I'm on it right now.

* You get random glitches when swiping the screen up and down left or right.

* Feels faster ( read: still sluggish ) then Alpha 1 ( only tried alpha 1 before this one )

* Rosie constantly reloads and it takes up to 4 minutes to finish reloading sometimes...

Overall it is still a very unusable ROM
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Sheikmans:
Thank you for your update! Since this is still a buggy ROM for our device I will not try this version.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] johrie:
Thought of trying it out again after finding out about an app called Ram Manager. There is a Pro and a Free version.

With the Balance option, Lock launcher and swap enabled this rom is smoother than it normally is. I am currently running it for a day and it is more responsive with that app running :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bradley_e_smith:
Curious how long you end up running this rom and anything else.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] johrie:
Most roms just last a week on my phone xd so i wonder how long i will stick with this one. Apart from the random glitches you see appearing on the screen it just works nice. Even gaming is working great ( tried FF3 ).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] johrie:
Changelog for Virtuous Infinity v1.35.0 Beta1

Important

If you are on a version prior to v1.33.0 Alpha3 then you need to make a full wipe before flashing this version. Otherwise you will have crashes in the camera and other apps.

New Features

Added Virtuous Resources for easier and better resource management

Added Virtuous OTA Updater

This work is based on the awesome work of the OTA Update Center team. They made a really cool job on it and I was able to add their work with some adaptations. You can have a look at their XDA thread or on their website.

Added tweak for different battery styles

Added tweak for secure folder in Messages

Added tweak for use local timestamp in Messages

Added tweak for screen on for new message

Added Hebrew translations for APM

Adapted APM to Virtuous Resources

Updated SuperSu to 0.95

Updated Play Store to 3.8.15

Updated all apps to latest version

Bug Fixes

Browser: Fixed no sdcard message for trying to download

Data: Fixed HSDPA connection

Link and Download:

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30873-virtuous-infinity-v1330-alpha3-general/page__st__290

Pls update OP :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Do you know if the newest beta will support the backuptool feature (ie: when a zip is flashed in recovery, it executes scripts in /system/addon.d/ to backup selected files, and restores after flashing, such as google apps).

The reason I ask is because such a feature in Mimicry 1.4.0, allows me to use the OTA updater there, and will retain google apps as well as my dataswap/sd-ext enabler (which also puts a script into /system/addon.d) after flashing the zip, making it possible to simply use the OTA without having to stay in recovery to flash all the extras if any.