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[Defy General] Gurkin:
I think because These are the 2nd boot builds you have to install also this updatev2 or how its called. Read this post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32825222&postcount=10410 . And like the other one said use the gapps for 4.1.2.

Hopefully I helped and this works.

If it dont try the builds in the folder which dont says 2ndboot builds with the instructions in the OP. These should work.
[Defy General] corrinti:
Had the similar problem with one defy (reboots) and the best workaround I found is making a clean install - which I mean to start with parent sbf and RSDLite.

Besides:

- you shouldn't flash any battery fix

- why have you flashed a kernel ?????? The build contains a kernel inside, a different one

- flash latest update (now update for 11-10 v2

- install latest gapps 20111011
[Defy General] nyestegabesz:
Very nice job, thank You!
[Defy General] JostVice:
What is the DPI mod? I don't understand what it does, you hack a file so you can download apps that you can't from the Play Store?

afaik the DPI is set by the LCD screen, you can't change that?
[Defy General] Pepi_X:
Obviously (I would say) this is actually resolution modification.. but as the DPI is taken into account to compute the coordinates it is called DPI Mod.. (take it to be the native and non-native resolutions of a LCD screen..)
[Defy General] JostVice:
So we can change the resolution of the screen. I guess, obviously, we can't increase it, only decrease.

Why would you want to do this though?
[Defy General] nickaustin:
one question...

I have defy with stock froyo [rooted]...and made nandroid backup....

I want to install cm10

in case if something goes wrong can i restore to my original nandroid back up directly?
[Defy General] corrinti:
Should work - at least in my case worked restoring CM7 backup.

But, to be on a safe side, you shall be prepared also with your data/apps backup and RSDLite for flashing sbf files.

When backup is prepared just make all wipes (data, cache, dalvik), flash last zip ROM, gapps, make all wipes again and shall work
[Defy General] nitin55:
2nd boot build works like a charm

Ok as i can't post in the dev section, just wanted to share my experience with 2ndboot builds.

First of all i have a defy+ and my stock kernel was 4.5.1-134_DFP-1321 and i confirm that people having the above kernel can flash the 2ndboot builds without any problems.

I flashed the latest 2ndboot build(18-10-2012) yesterday and i had no troubles at all, the phone booted taking ~5 mins for the first boot. Believe me the latest build is very very amazing :highfive:.

For the first time when i connected my phone to the pc it was not recognized so i went to settings-storage-usb computer connection and there enabled usb mass storage and voila my phone was recognized. Hope this helps few people who have this problem.

Finally no data drops encountered so far and also battery life is also good(battery lasting for ~2 days under normal usage).

Bugs encountered:

1)The options to boot into recovery and cpu settings doesn't work.

2)Button backlight is also not working.

But this are not that bigger bugs for me.

So final comments: Awesome ROM TY QUARX very much for this smooth and awesome ROM. :good:
[Defy General] nitin55:
Battery life 2ndboot build

I have uploaded the screenshot of my battery life from the latest build(18-10-2012). The screenshot is of my phone kept idle throughout the night with only 2g active. Before on previous builds i used to get 1.6% drop per hour and now as u can see i got 0.6% drop per hour so the battery life has really improved for me....:victory:
[Defy General] corrinti:
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Give your settings, now :D

For me, just out of box, no changes, no tweaks 3% drain per hour in the niight, only 2g active, 39% of standby (like yours) but only 30% of phone idle.
[Defy General] nitin55:
Vsel values:

300-17

600-32

800-42

1100-57

Governor-Boosted

KSM-Enabled

Zram-10%

Purging Of assets-Disabled

That's it. Hope it helps you :fingers-crossed:
[Defy General] JostVice:
What are the '2ndboot' builds? I mean, what is '2ndboot'. They are flashed as usual? Any link i can read about 2ndboot?
[Defy General] defy_plus:
I've decided to make new instalation from the begining, but when I flashed the first sbf, RSD Lite doesn't show the PASS result :(. After manually powering the phone, RSD's result is not changing from "in process" to "PASS". I've tried with two different versions and with the same old sbf I have ever used.
[Defy General] nitin55:
2ndboot builds are unified builds(means one build for both the defy and defy+ users unlike earlier builds). Also 2ndboot builds contain CUSTOM KERNEL meaning features like ZRAM, KSM etc can be implemented to boost the performance of the ROM.

About Flashing, YES they are flashed as usual.,i.e if upgrading from previous CM10 builds:

1) Wipe Cache and Dalvik.

2)Flash Rom

3)Flash Gapps

4)Wipe Cache and Dalvik again & Reboot

and if coming from different builds(like CM7,CM9 etc)

1)Wipe Data, Cache and Dalvik

2)Flash Rom

3)Flash Gapps

4)Wipe Cache and Dalvik again & Reboot

Hope this helps you and ALWAYS MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE FLASHING NEW ROM. :)
[Defy General] Bendary:
"IMPORTANT: THIS STEPS ARE ONLY TO FLASH THE 24-09 BUILD OR EARLIER. THE NEW 2NDBOOT BUILDS WITH CUSTOM KERNEL REQUIRES DIFFERENT STEPS."

Where are the different steps?? I'm starting from scratch here and want to install the laest cm10 18-10
[Defy General] Tiics:
They're pretty much the same. you just make sure you have clockworkmod or some boot recovery and flash it like you'd flash any other rom, install from sd card -> wipe cache and dalvik -> [this depends on whether you come from previous ANDROID versions like ICS or GB not the rom] wipe data -> reboot -> wait -> wait for it to settle a bit -> enjoy.

IF your defy starts rebooting randomly on some apps, make sure to try using it without KSM, it loads up the cpu and it crashes, at least that's what happens to me.
[Defy General] nitin55:
Dude the steps that i mention are for flashing 2ndboot roms only. Defy users who required to flash kernel and also battery fix(red lens users) are not mentioned in the steps because the kernel is included in the zip file itself and also as it is known from earlier that battery fix is not required.
[Defy General] fattest:
It seems a lot has changed since I last read instructions for custom roms and need some help.

I have am MB525 Red Lens running CodeName Android 3.6.5 with gb kernel (kernel-gb-234-451-134-signed.zip). I don't think I've ever installed a custom bootloader. Do I need to do anything different when installing the latest CM10 with 4.1.2 using 2ndboot rather than 2ndinit? Normally I do wipe cache/davlik/system then flash rom, flash gapps, flash battery fix.

This is a very subjective question, but in order to get the best experience, which ROM, bootloader and kernel should I be using?

Thanks
[Defy General] JostVice:
Custom kernel, that sounds nice. does this change anything for downgrade? if I flash this 2ndboot i can later on go back to CM7 and such? (green lens here)
[Defy General] nitin55:
Yes you can. You will have to restore the nandroid backup of the required rom and that's it. :)
[Defy General] Pepi_X:
@nitin55 - Thanks for the steps mentioned.. I kept searching for a description and steps for those 2ndboot.. never saw a sequence mentioned..

I never saw/found it mentioned.. are there any problems with the downgrade after installing those 2ndboot images?

Hope you would be fine with quoting your post once again.. to make it even easier to find once you search for it..
[Defy General] saravanababu:
Flashed CM10 JB-Quarx 20120924 - Few questions.

I am not an expert and was able to flash CM10 JB-Quarx 20120924 Nightly yesterday on my Green lense Defy (was on CM7.1 stable earlier) . Using minimal GApps. Its simply awesome and working great so far. I can,t figure out any issues. Not much lag, no FCs and the overall JB experience is great and I really love this ROM. Thanks to Quarx and all other developers who have made this possible in our defy, which has covered a long journey from Eclair to JB.

But I have few questions for the experts.

1. What is HWA ?. Whether it has be disabled for all apps to increase speed ?. For which apps it is mandatory ?.

2. What should be the minimum amount of free RAM available once the phone is up and running (50 ?, 80?, 120 ? or above 150 ?)

3. Am I need to install Adobe Flash from Play Store ?

4. Terbuchet Launcher or Apex ?

5. Best music player app ?

6. Any antivirus app is required ?, because earlier i found it tends to slow down my phone.

Once again thanks for Quarx and all other developers for their great work.
[Defy General] corrinti:
I'm not an expert but just a heavy user :cowboy:, but suppose can explain you some of your doubts.

1.& 2. HWA stands for hardware acceleration. As default it is allowed for all app (marked), but the system can disable it for some of them itself. The way of its influence is double: it usually increases a speed of application but on the other side decreases the amount of free RAM in the system which can cause some laginess.

There is no good answer about free RAM - all depends on how you use your phone. If you are a hard gamer maybe you will need to disable HWA for some applications to free RAM. Don't do it for system, launcher, interface, but for sure many apps with simple graphics do not need it.

Next point with HWA is that some apps can work buggy with HWA enabled. It can still happen to system phone app - if you experience lags with answering the call and additional rings after answer - just disable HWA for phone.apk.

Next point for memory is adjusting zRAM (in settings>performance). The harder gamer you are the higher zRAM will be better. The best battery performance you need, go with it down or even disable.

First just try the system out of box - if there are no laggs, then don't bother of free RAM, if there are just check whether your RAM get lower then, say 20 MB.

4. launcher depends on you. Trebuchet is now very basic, with very few settings, free Apex gives you much more, but I use Holo HD as it gives possibility of creating folders.
[Defy General] nitin55:
Yes you can downgrade to previous ROM after installing 2ndboot ROM. Follow these steps:

1)Place the Nandroid Backup of your previous rom(CM7, CM9 etc) in the clockworkmod folder.

2)Go to recovery. Wipe Data, Cache and Dalvik.

3)Restore the nandroid backup.

4)Wipe Cache and dalvik.

5)Reboot.

That's it. :).
[Defy General] saravanababu:
thanks

Thanks for your explanation. Understood a few things.
[Defy General] mattia.b89:
since defy and defy+ share the same build, FAQ should be updated
[Defy General] SnakeyG:
Got me too!

Hey Defy_plus..... had the same problem. This u tube video shows the next step you need to take.

Go to you tube and search "How to get a Defy back to life that doesn't boot" . would post the link but I am to new to the forum so it won't let me.

Good luck :laugh:
[Defy General] defy_plus:
the phone is working normally, but PASS not showing concerns me :eek:
[Defy General] G00fY2:
They are just called Froyo and Gingerbread kernel, because the versions they were shipped with. But both are 2.6.32.9 kernel. Maybe GB kernel is a bit more stable in oc, because of it's additional Vsel step. But I don't think so.

Edit:

@cdlq456: Maybe you should list all questions at the beginning and number them! That would make it easier to get an overview.

Edit2: Also I wouldn't recommend just quarx's builds. At the moment epsylons build has more functions (key backlight e.g.). I would just recommend, to use latest build of both, cause there using mostly same code.

Edit3: Battery fix isn't on Epsylons server. It's here. As I said, I would recommend [Support] - [JB] CM10 Android 4.1.1 for the Defy(+) for stuff about installation.
[Defy General] vaserbanix:
maybe is more than that becouse GB rom dont work with froyo kernel need other driver ex.green lense
[Defy General] toohot4tv:
Hi just installed epsylon 20120725 build. The buttons key light do not work is it normal? And sometimes I get bizarre lag on desktop only. Also Im with Canadian Telus Red lens defy. The original baseband for Canada didn't work so I use T-Mobile USA instead, is that ok?
[Defy General] cdlq456:
Button backlight still dont work. You can use any baseband as long your phone works fine..
[Defy General] desihu:
Thanks for the effort.

Just another suggestion. Kindly make the Kernel update FAQ clear. Each place there is no clear indication on why and why not to do that.

Kernels for Green Defy

Froyo

GB

Kernels for Red Defy and Defy+

GB

etc.

Hopefully this would help many to clear their confusion.

best
[Defy General] t0n0n:
Are you guys using the red lens battery fix?? I didn't flashed it and my phone is working normally(Red Lens). Did Quarkx solved our problem with CM10?
[Defy General] corrinti:
If u mean SMS messages it is no problem to make a backup with many apps available in the GooglePlay - just type sms backup in search.

Also u can make all backups of apps and user data with Titanium backup

The only thing now (maybe I am outdated ;) ) that does not fully work is MMS backup
[Defy General] harshaldesai:
I just flashed CM10-20120724-NIGHTLY-mb526 over the previous nightly. All good.

Is Apex launcher the default launcher for CM10? I didnt install one with CM10, but still have it. and when i press the Home button it asked me which i want to use as default. How did it come?
[Defy General] Ahjohnwon:
wonderful !ahahahahahhahaha.

good~good~good~good~good~good~good~
[Defy General] one-piggy:
where is the changelog?
[Defy General] cdlq456:
If you use gb kernel on green lens your camera wont work
[Defy General] Heidegeist:
Does this work well? I mean do I have my conversations as they were now on CM9-ICS?
[Defy General] sebrojas:
CM10 Rocks!

I'm using the 25/07 build since yesterday, and I have to say that is the best ROM my Defy ever had.
[Defy General] cdlq456:
yes, don't worry. if you want to be sure, do a nandroid backup before flashing the new rom, if anything goes wrong, you just restore you nandroid backup and you'll have cm9 again as you left it.
[Defy General] mothy1025:
Does CM10 for defy,defy (RED Lens) and defy+ Merged ?

I think both kernels were merged in CM10.. Epsy's Build for defy accepted defy+ too discussed in main CM10 thread ...Any one can confirm this...i am on quarx ics defy plus build..can i flash epsy's CM10 build for defy without flashing any kernels...
[Defy General] ciogs:
Hi everybody!

When I try to connect to the WiFi network is always obtaining IP address and takes a long time to connect and shortly after that the connection drops. Here is some information that I think can help fix:

Static IP

WPA2 password

Internet Speed: 15Mb/s

Avoid poor connections unmarked (and still appears the message: avoided poor connect even if i'm on the side of the router, not always, most of the time is obtaining IP adress)

I used the method of installation which I think must be right:

Factory Reset

Flash Kernel (Froyo, green lens)

Flash CM10 (Eppy 07/26)

Flash GAPPS

Wipe Cache

Wipe Davilk

Reboot

In every JellyBean rom that i've tested always happens the same error, trying since the first Quarx release :(

I would be happy if someone could help me.

Thanks for your great work! ;)
[Defy General] cdlq456:
Try doing a factory reset AFTER you flash cm10
[Defy General] defim:
Does OpenVPN work with CM10 and the old kernel with app like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.blinkt.openvpn ?
[Defy General] zjed:
Thanks for a great ROM

Thanks to Quarx and Epsylon3 for a great ROM. :highfive:

I'm currently running quarx 26/06 with nexus boot animation and mixer ics theme. Looks and performs great.

Over here the google now woman even has an Aussie accent! :cool:
[Defy General] moors:
Files not found after CM10 install

Hi

I have a defy plus and installed CM 10 by quarx over CM9 by Quarx.

I just did this:

5) Select CM10-2012xxxx-NIGHTLY-mb526.zip and flash it.

6)insall Gapps

8) Wipe Cache and Dalvik

9) Restart

After that There is no Files folder when i open the Apps drawer? How do i get it? Thanks.moorie
[Defy General] solfx:
Hi,

I would like to test this ROM. Could you please confirm that the following steps are correct (to be sure that I'm not doing something stupid)?

####

Device: MB525 (Green)

The version I want to flash: latest (21.10)

Current version: MIUI 2.3.7

####

Backup:

1. contacts & sms

2. apps using titanium backup

3. reboot in recovery and create a rom backup

Flashing (all in the recovery):

1. Wipe data/factory reset

2. Wipe cache partition

3. Advanced -> wipe dalvik cache

4. Choose the rom zip file and flash

|__a. first " CM10-20121018-NIGHTLY-mb526.zip " (As I've read it is unified version although mb526 is written)

|__b. second " update_for_18.10.zip "

5. Choose the Gapps and flash ( " gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip " )

6. steps 2&3 again

7. reboot

These are the sole steps as I understood (i.e. no kernal flash etc.). Please correct me if I'm going to do something wrong.

Thank you in advance,

Mark.
[Defy General] corrinti:
At the very moment, to be precise, for point 3. you shall flash 18.10 build and 21.10 update. The rest is ok :cowboy:

For backup your contacts are usually backed up with your google account, in such a case just sync to make sure account is updated.

And you can back up your smses, if you care, with any proper app from google market
[Defy General] solfx:
Thanks corrinti! (I've also updated the original post according to your response)

Does it matter the "mb526" in the file name? (mine is mb525 )

BTW, Is the required kernel already in the ROM build?
[Defy General] corrinti:
Yes, kernel is in the ROM. It is for all 2nd boot builds by Quarx, at least till now

MB526 doesn't matter, though if any app would be incompatible because of it (someone somewhere reported it) then you can change it in build.prop file, and the easiest way is to do it with build.prop editor from GooglePlay - but take care with any changes or you will have to flash the ROM again :D
[Defy General] o_mas:
I see something wrong!

In the step 5, i think is wrong to make a "Wipe data/factory reset" i think you will need a wipe Cache and Dalvik...
[Defy General] solfx:
Where do I have it in the recovery?
[Defy General] corrinti:
I haven't noticed it, it's not required to wipe data again, just cache and dalvik cache. Dalvik cache wipe is in advanced
[Defy General] solfx:
Thank you guys! Succeeded! :good: This ROM looks and feels amazing!:cool:

+I've also updated my original post with the corrections
[Defy General] -=lov=-:
Sleep mode

If someone has battery drain in sleep mode, you can try to do this steps:

1. Reboot phone. Wait for 10-15 minutes.

3. Insert the USB - nothing happens on the phone. (Notifications Debugging and connect via USB does not appear).

4. Take out the USB.

5. Reconnect USB wait minute or so.

6. Take out the USB.

Now device should sleep correctly.

Tested on latest CM10-20121018-NIGHTLY-mb526.zip with update	update_for_18.10.zip
[Defy General] Tjunkustc:
a good work, thx~:good:
[Defy General] no_means_no:
I can't use the Defy ROM updater for the 2nd boot builds. Maybe I'm just too stupid, but can anyone give a working path to set the URL manually?
[Defy General] -=lov=-:
Just download it and install manually. There is no link for rom updater at the moment.
[Defy General] koubic8:
thanks, FAQ helped a lot!
[Defy General] no_means_no:
so I did. Just hoped to get it updated a bit easier ;)
[Defy General] -=lov=-:
You can also try to put downloaded update to /sdcard/romupdater folder and try to update from rom updater.

As for me manual update more simple in this case.
[Defy General] sebuelias:
Do the same. No need to flash the fix i think.

Wipe cache, dalvik cache.

Install zip

Wipe them again.

Done.

If coming from anything other than CM10, wipe data. If not no problem.

Also flash the kernel update too after this ok.. or along with tgus after flashing ROM.

ROM big file >100mb

Kernel update small <10mb

Thank if I was helpful.

Cheers

Sent from my Awesome Defy!

---------- Post added at 12:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:54 AM ----------

Use LG camera app to record 720p videos.

Thank if I was helpful.

Cheers

Sent from my Awesome Defy!
[Defy General] okij:
Great workaround against battery drain in sleep mode!

This is a really great workaround against battery drain in sleep mode! :good: :good: :good:

This method works very well for me and is always reproducable!

Before I had about 45 mA/h (2,5 %/h) while deepsleep during day (with 3G on) and about 30 mA/h (1,8 %/h) while deepsleep during night (by using JuiceDefender app, 3G and WIFI are off most of the time).

After appliing this method (which unfortunately has to be done after every reboot), i have just about 25 mA/h (1,5 %/h) while deepsleep during day and about 8 mA/h (0,5 %/h) while deepsleep during night, which are similar to the good numbers I had under Gingerbread.

BTW, using KSM, zRam and Swap don't influence battery drain, at least not significantly, in my experience. I got the above mentioned drains with KSM and zRAM enabled!

However, disabling "settings > location > access to my location" and "google > maps and latitude" options, as posted a couple of times on the development thread, *does* have some impact on battery drain, so I keep these options disabled.

I'm reading the development thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1768702 for a couple of weeks now and unfortunately it seems that they haven't taken notice of -=lov=-'s great finding yet. :( I think that there is something about the USB drivers not properly initialized in the Custom Kernels yet, which leads to the much discussed battery drains. I'm quite sure that this should be fixable by Quarx.

Unfortunately, I cannot post in the development thread yet (actually this is my very first post because I found this topic this so important).

Therefore I would like to ask somebody on this FAQ thread to try this method himself and give a hint

on the development thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1768702, so that the

developers and especially Quarx can take notice and finally fix the battery drain caused by the USB driver

bug (or whatever it is). :fingers-crossed: :highfive: :victory:

Thank you for your support!​

Thanks to -=lov=- for his great finding and to Quarx for his superb CM10 ROM and Custom Kernel (if he is reading this thread nonetheless...) :D

Okij

My current config: Defy+, Quarx CM10 2012-10-18 NIGHTLY + Custom Kernel from 24.10.,

19@300, 34@600, 49@900, 59@1100 / Interactive / SIO / KSM enabled / zRam 18%
[Defy General] disadjusted:
USB / charger

Thx man!

I can even remember that it seems to be the same for me, although i didn't notice the coincidence.

seems to work even with plain charger, not only on pc-usb.

will report if the behaviour is true when further investigated.

und Grüße nach Düsseldorf ;)
[Defy General] okij:
Thanks for confirming this - und Grüße nach Freiburg! ;)
[Defy General] docneo99:
sorry for asking this question again...but i searched almost everywhere didnt get an satisfactory answer (or must have missed, am a human, human mistakes r supposed to happen...n im sorry for my errors)

is it advisable to use KSM & zRAM options? & what r they supposed to do in battery performance & phone performance??
[Defy General] :
Battery charging,SD card & data related queries?

Sorry to be a bother but i really need to know this -->

1. does the battery charge properly and when it is charging does it have any problems as in does it restart or go into a boot-loop or anything like that?

2. does it connect to the PC properly i.e. can we access the SD card with no probs via PC?:confused:

3. have the frequent wifi & data disconnection problems been solved?

PLEASE REPLY ASAP :p

that's about all i needed thank you in advance :fingers-crossed:
[Defy General] docneo99:
1) while charging no booloops or anything like that

2) it connects to pc properly with no issues with file transfer....u might hv to disconnect-reconnect to cable from pc end

3) many didnt have any issues with wifi n data...& many report some issues...but not a deal breaker.