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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
It's not really designed for 7 inch tabs no doubt. Really I'd be fine with gingerbread if the Google apps were just tablet optimized. Jelly bean addresses the need for a separate tablet ui for 7 inch tabs but imo they didn't put much thinking into it as you now have 2 black bars instead of 1

Also the phone launcher just sucks imo. Should of kept the honeycomb launcher and kept the buttons where they put them but no bar just buttons.

But on that note if we can get jelly bean with virtual buttons disabled it might just be perfect for our old tablet :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] doctorlirio:
I don't care if HTC is going to be bought by someone, I'm going to keep trying to get the update. I might not get it, but at least they'll have to see what they've done written at their facebook pages and many more will know. Call it revenge, vendetta, whatever you want, I don't care, I own 4 Sensations too, and I've been a loyal HTC customer for years... and I have never been in this situation before. I can understand HTC not updating a device released two years ago, but the Flyer was released a year ago and ICS 6 months later.

And they're lying at us saying the tablet is optimized for Honeycomb... I don't like it when people lie to me.

Here in Europe the Flyer 3g was sold at 700€. That's 848 US $ at today's exchange rate... It's not a cheap device and it should have the update to something presented 6 months after Flyer was released. Don't you think???
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ftorres:
I agree, my flyer cost USD 700. Not so fortunate. I really appreciate your effort.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] nickmgray:
I purchased the Flyer because of its pen functionality and what it could do out of the box. Anyone who's ever purchased an Android phone knows that most devices only see one major software update. The Flyer got Honeycomb, which was no small feat. To my knowledge, HTC was the only OEM to update a tablet from Android 2.3 to Android 3.0. For a half second, I contemplated getting the Nexus 7, but I can't bear the thought of losing my pen functionality simply to say that I have a faster tablet with the latest version of Android.

I take issue with the statement that HTC will be bought out by the end of the year. While HTC has suffered a huge loss in the past three quarters, the company's revenue and profits are still solid. If HTC were a U.S. traded company, it would rank between 150-180 in the fortune 500 list and its YTD 2012 profits would be comparable to CBS, Progressive and Sysco.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Yeah but they still are clueless at what people want. Take the one series. Where are the sd cards and removable batteries? And why does the att version have half the storage? Why does sense 4.0 still have a gingerbreadish looking notification bar? Who gives a rats ass about beats by Dre?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kardain:
Apparently HTC doesn't since they decided not to meet financial obligations to Beats....

See also: Dell Streak 7....

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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] stevedebi:
Well, they never updated my 4g dell streak!

Sent from my HTC View somewhere in LALA land
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Yucko:
well, my first android phone (X10i) went from 1.6 -> 2.1 and eventually to 2.3.3 even though SE at the time was not know for their great support in regards to updating firmwares.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Yeah my captivate received 2 major updates. It started on eclair, ended on gingerbread. Oh well.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Kudzus:
I think you may be confusing TWD with US dollars. If you convert the numbers to US they show 15 million in profit. In no way would that make the 500 list.

At this time last year their stock was trading at 978 TW it closed yesterday at 275 TW. That is a very serious loss of value

Until they make some changes this downward trend will continue.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] gersto:
I agree.. I'd lie if i said I wasn't dismayed over the decision to stay on HC. I got it "hoping" for ICS but willing to accept it if HC is the final upgrade. I still hold to my old argument that upgrades on these devices is no different than OEM PCs. 1 official upgrade. After that you are on your own regarding future upgrades. I only wish that HTC would/could release the source for at least the hardware drivers.

I bought my flyer for about 189 and a 32gb card for about $40 (of course now you can get one for around $20)

I rooted and loaded LeeDroid HC ROM and I am quite happy with it. To me the added functionality of HC + Sense trumps the need to stay on GB.

I recently got my hands on the scribe pen for $20 and love what I can do with it. I bought it mainly to use at my current job.

I'll load Lisbon once things develop further and we have pen functionality (hoping the new HTC tablet will help us with that)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Andvoid:
I will definantly be moving to another brand when i upgrade my 3 devices. So that will be more loss for HTC.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Really everyone thinks they have better build quality than Samsungs, I think they are better at disguising it honestly. In my year and a half of owning my captivate I had to swap it twice for a bad speaker and bad power button. But Gumbys screen died on his flyer, and I see posts all the time with bad power buttons and charge ports for the flyer. A friend of mine with a Droid Incredible had a bad power button, and my wife's vivids screen died after just 3 months. I don't hold it against htc I mean it's the era of cheap manufacturing, it happens but I certainly wouldn't going with them again for build quality. They can make some sharp devices that look bullet proof but they are no more invincible than any other device. Really the only company that has pure crap build quality is Sony Ericsson. Motorola used to but they've stepped it up recently.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
I have to wonder what has gotten everybody riled up again? We all kinda went through this in may and got over it now everyone is mad and angry all over again! It sucks but our tablet isn't the only device ever to get dropped from support too soon in fact it happens to a ton of devices from every manufacturer. Yeah they are making a new tablet but not to piss off everyone, quite frankly the flyer, EVO, and Jetstream were failures from their pov so they scrapped them, went back to the drawing board, and now are going to try again.

I'm just done complaining about it or worrying about it. It's just business imo. The whole android device market is screwed up right now it is what it is and that's why Google is pushing nexuses with force!

We need to either make the most of the flyer with custom roms or sell it. Some are perfectly content on hc or gingerbread and that's fine too. But if you aren't than please keep it all in one thread!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Kudzus:
HTC is getting some negative replies at Engadget

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/28/...-skip-android-4-0-for-desire-hd/#commentsover

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Agreed with you 100 percent. I don’t think they owe me ICS.

My complaint is the update I did get broke my devices
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Yeah honestly it isn't HTCs fault honeycomb sucks its Google's. The lag we experience is consistent on even more powerful devices. Honeycomb more than anything is just Googles testing of their new tablet ui so they could integrate it into ics later. It was all about looks with no thought on speed or lag or compatibility. That being said HTCs crime really is ever releasing it to begin with. Probably should of kept it on gingerbread and kept releasing updates to break the flyer more away from the phone feel.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Max128:
I disagree with the policy on HTC updates .. BUT the other manufacturers are not better ..

Samsung it silly their customers.

Sony gives no update has ICS for its range of 2011 .. LOL

LG cancels some updates to ICS .. for example for the device Optimus 2X..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
No the only way to avoid the update fiasco is to get a nexus. All manufacturers have been especially terrible with ics, taking forever to get it or canceling it after promising it for months. I know desire HD owners gotta be pissed. I know it's an old phone but after counting on it for months, it's just ridiculous they didn't release it. My understanding the system partition is too small for sense and ics both and they could repartion it but at the cost of data... Ok? Well then release it as a pc only update and tell users if they want it they are going to have to wipe their data! It's not rocket science.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] gersto:
I like the flyer on HC, of course LeeDroid mods helps.

But I agree sometimes It's best to go with the nexus lines if you want some better support on upgrades. Or the Moto Xoom. It may be an old heavy device but heck It's getting Jellybean!

I think Google needs to go back and look at MSs model, of course skipping the "No WinPhone8 for you" decision, and apples model.

Every win phone 7 device got the 7.5 upgrade. Didn't matter who made it!

Vendors either need to stop dumping their crap on the phones, or move that crap to Google play. And Google needs to find a way to support android upgrades directly.

I know next to nothing about coding but maybe they need to split Android into layers: driver layer and an OS layer. Vendors can deal with the drivers, Google deals with the OS.

MS must be doing something like that to be able to roll out win phone updates
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
The issue is open source. With android being open source Google has no say what oems do with the source code. This is why Linux never overtook windows IMO. The idea behind open source is a utopian communistic idea that everyone will contribute and chip in to make it better but in the real world oems are taking android and making their own versions and then not maintaining support for them, and Linux is the same way, and fragmentation is the exact reason why we all use Windows now!

However Google is doing something, and that's pushing nexus products better and making them cheaper and easier to purchase. I think nexuses are going to save android. If people start buying all nexuses and stop buying their HTC Extescy HD 4G pluses and LG Optimus Prime decepticon gx2s then manufacturers are going to step it up, make less phones and support them more.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DaMan90:
Is anyone still having the resent apps bug? Like where the bottom that says task manager it glitches out and doesn't work. I'm on the OTA update of FF18
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] g_ding84:
Are you refering to the visual bug where the bottom portion of (long press home) task manager isnt there until you swipe something away? if it is, that is the bug with FF18 ICS. I had it to until I flashed a new Rom and kernel.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mayfield103:
Looks awesome! Excellent job :cool:

I have no idea what's goin on?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Thanks man hope you guys enjoy it... I spent alot of hardwork and time doing the gfx for this theme...

I just want to make it clear that chos rom is the same thing as the chameleon rom without all the pokemon crap in it... Sorry not a fan myself but hey to each is own...

I will also be porting the theme to miks rom as soon as he releases it...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vgomez916:
Where can I find the info to this Rom
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Well technically i guess the info for the rom can be found here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1690531

But the real thread for the rom itself is here http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?13411-Chogardjr-s-Kang-Chaos-Discussion

Like I said what cho did was take Joels work and reodex it... Honestly Joel takes that work from everyone else anyways so... On that note yeah its just a hybrid of an already existing rom... Think it had to do with the pokemon stuff honestly... All the same its a good rom so far but will not be updated... I will carry this to the next best rom which most likely will be miks rom...

Kanged roms are all over the place not that kanging stuff is good but at the same time it was necessary in this case if you ask me...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] drlzanej:
Definately badass man, Im on Rejuvinated ATM so it doesnt really do me any good. Just wanted to give you props tho man, NICE work. ,,,:cool:,,,
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sullivan7221:
Sick as always! Hmm... Why doesn't the MikForums get all these BA screenshots!? Lol. Just teasin, its on my phone so I know damn well what it looks like!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
screenshots are up on themikmik i posted them both basically at the same time... As soon as I made all the ss for themikmik I posted this thread here... So they are up... Just smaller you have to click on it a couple of times on themikmik to see the big version of the ss's...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mayfield103:
Yeah it looks great and I know how much work went into it :) kick ass!

I have no idea what's goin on?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tbonanno231:
Wow! This looks gorgeous man. Great work!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Thx man appreciate it...Being a gfx designer helps...

Im glad you like it... I checked out your thread as welll... Blue and orange what an original idea...

I honestly dont think that ive ever seen that color combo before looks good man...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tbonanno231:
Ha ha, yeah... you're not the first person to say that. Thanks.

I going to have to try out Cho's ROM and your theme. I get tired of looking at my own sometimes and this is really nice. ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Well thanks man appreciate it...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Cy_n_ic:
This looks great. definately gonna have to give this rom/theme combo a go. Would it be possible to incorporate this into the villain theme engine so it could install on any rom?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
Pneuma are you going to skin any other roms up or just cho's?

Tux approves of my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jabawockee:
I tried out the rom already. Im a big fan of chogard's blue rom for the 3d. I'm gonna flash back to cho's if it gets updated to the new base 1.22. In tweaks the recent apps remap to menu dont work. Other than that its a good rom without all that pokemon crap in it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
I am going to themeing mik roms... I am part of team mik so yeah ill be working with mik roms on further themes...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
I Just posted the right menu button fix for Chos kanged rom! So thats fixed!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
No love for flex's rom then?

Tux approves of my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Well it's not that I dont have love for them, It's just I have been with themikmik for quite some time now now and I will continue to ride it out over there. Like the website like the people and especially love the roms so... Yup give it a try man youll like the forums over there...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wileout:
Ive been over there a couple times actually. It seems like most of the devs that left us here at xda just slid over there which is ubderstandable things just werent working out for them here so they moved on...ill have to come by there a lil more often tho just so i can see if its true that the grass is greener on the other side lol

Tux approves of my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JDPito:
Loved your work on the OG EVO Pneuma! Excited to see what Team Mik has in store for the LTEVO!

I have been on Flex360s ROM from his initial release and he has done some amazing work for being a "non-dev" he holds his own very well.

Good to see you out here!

JDPito
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] killhr:
I appreciate all the hard work you put in this theme i just had a question will you be doing any other colors? Like red lol but seriously great job
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] laie1472:
Tried to find a Chanel log for the differences in the two roms and I haven't been able to locate one. Is there a channel log for the kanged rom ?

#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\=LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
I posted it; its in the discussion thread... Since cho never actually posted the rom anywhere official its in that thread you have to click his signature"Kanged Chaos"

Umm probably not honestly I will be working on alot of skins until Christmas and then ill probably start a new theme...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Ontop of those responses I just posted a huge update...Enjoy
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LegacyKill3r:
maybe is a stupid ?

Hey guys would this theme work on a stock deodexed rom?:confused:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] NORCALkID:
I don't think it does ... The theme is for odex first of all and he did also mention it's for a specific rom that is based on a port.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
No this rom is for chos odexed charmeleon rom... Nothing else... In my opinion odexed is always better and faster than deodexed.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Ok im about to post a new update that moves all the google apps to data which gets rid of the gapps.process error if you try to update them...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fr0st420:
Damn I might have to try out cho's kang Rom now. This theme looks great. I'm currently running rejuvenated right now but I need a theme like this.

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] selders59:
Looks like pneuma pulled the link to fix some issues.

Sent from my "Beach Watcher" 4LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
It is backup fellas I figured it all out and google wallet fix is included enjoy and all apps are now in data. So, in case you want to update for whatever reason... You Can and it fixes the gapps.process error!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Dropped 3.0 which has inverted google apps in it Enjoy!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
3.1 was yesterday but i posted it here today... 3.2 will be posted in a little bit...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] TW1L1GHT_K1N6:
Loving this theme on my phone. People with them same phone, and uprooted of course, the don't even recognize it. Keep up the extravagant work my friend
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] usopen:
Is there any way to get just the skin of this in a flashable .zip? A few versions ago you had a skin separate of the theme, can we still get that?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Well right now the skin that comes with the theme is for the inverted theme... So theres alot of stuff it will mess up unless you rocking the inverted theme... But yeah if you want the regular skins for this they are on the market search pneuma or iced chaos.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] usopen:
I have both of those, was looking for the inverted one you have here. Did not know it would mess things up. Thanks for the reply!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Ok the link is fixed enjoy... You can dl it from your phones now sorry it was the host we are using.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Bump... I put 3.4 up which gets alot of cool and new updates... especially with dividers and menus of all kind...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tbone72:
Thanks! Looks great, thank for your hard work! :thumbup::D:D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vel7wil:
About ta give this a shot.....was using ur skins prior ta rooting sooooo really anxious ta seen what cha got.....sure its gonna been outta this world......:cool:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sullivan7221:
I doubt you'll be disapointed!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vel7wil:
Sweeeet job man.....great work.....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Thanks man i appreciate it i had to put alot into this theme since its my first on the LTE figured might as well go all out... And then I figured I'd just use it as an inversion base for other roms... Its all gonna be done the same way since ICS was inverted to begin with and what sense did to de-invert it the same across all roms.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SuperSonicEJ8:
I'd love to have something like this on my viper rom. any chance you will be making one for that in the future.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
Looks good man
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Probably not man viper is just another deodexed chaos so until I see something phenomenal I'm not going to make the jump.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vel7wil:
I was also hoping ta see on the viper.....any chance of peer pressure working????? huh huh? :crying:

By the way any chance this'll work on the viper....or break it?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Lol peer pressure. I concur.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vel7wil:
:confused: hmmmmmm.......maybe a bribe? .....:beer:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
ROFL well I may consider it seeing as my dev buddy is going that direction but we will see.. I ported it to badseeds rom in about 5 hours. So yeah we'll see lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vel7wil:
Wellllll I'll be the first ta say thanks for considering it..........:good:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] volk9029:
Glad to see you giving it some thought, you and tw671 are really going to make venom rom stand out.

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
Yes indeed we are... And im seriously considering it i've been running viper4g by team venom for the past 24 hours and it seems like a pretty spiffy rom. I love their idea of a themeing hub it basically is what we always hoped sense could become back when team douche/cyanogen released their themeing engine. I just hope they can further their development with it and get a ton of stuff up... I will most likely be working on something tonight so cross your fingers boys and girls:good:

On another note I will also be porting the theme to Tranquility rom by the BadSeed crew I already did it so not much to do... But im gonna post it after rls2b goes up...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vel7wil:
Two thumbs waaaaay up......:D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Pneuma1985:
The viper4g theme is posted its a WIP but its pretty good so far go about 15 apps done and framework/resources/ui...Enjoy
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rum2rum:
So, I woke up this morning and I went to go check some messages on my phone, but when I checked, the phone wouldn't turn on. I charged it like I usually did and when I got to it, the blue led light was flashing. Not brightly, but just like it would try to turn on, but it can't so the light slowly fades away. I tried to hold the power + volume buttons (both up and down) but it still wouldn't do anything. Any help before I take it into sprint?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] g_ding84:
can you charge the battery? is the battery loose? I would take it to sprint and let them check it out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rum2rum:
Yeah. I think I might just take it back to sprint. But it won't charge at all I think.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
Pull the battery and leave it out for a few minutes then try again.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rum2rum:
I've done that and I actually start seeing the empty battery logo. But It's only for a second. I think there's a problem with the battery or the charger thing
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rum2rum:
Okay, My phone actually started up now. The battery is not charging though
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rum2rum:
Just kidding. It's charging. Anyone know if I should be worried about anything?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] g_ding84:
Are you using an after market charger?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leaderbuilder:
Get a brand new quality USB cable. A HUGE amount of issues can be resolved by just doint this, believe me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rum2rum:
I was using the charger cable it came with but connected to my computer
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] g_ding84:
well your computer USB port can only push 500mA out max. sounds like its undercharging your phone. the stock charger pushes 1000mA or 1A.