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[Nexus 7 General] AttachedSilver:
My Nexus 7 is fine, got the last 16GB off staples and I am super happy with this purchase :)

the bezel squeaks a lil when you squeeze it a lil but nothing major

the tablet feels premium especially the back, I'm always touching it lol :rolleyes:

Sent from my S3
[Nexus 7 General] mi7chy:
You sure they were dead pixels and not dust? Anyhow, if you're seeking a flawless product then don't buy anything since they don't exist and you're jacking up the cost for everyone with excessive RMA's.
[Nexus 7 General] chisaki:
Very happy with mine, are you kidding?? 6??? :confused:
[Nexus 7 General] br0adband:
"Some people just shouldn't..."

Think about it. :)
[Nexus 7 General] blahblahyoutoo:
samsung, HAHAHAH. no.
[Nexus 7 General] Evo_Shift:
Doesn't surprise me. I returned 3 transformer primes and my 4th even had an issue before selling. I was upset Google chose Asus. I knew they would be cheap but there is a reason they are cheap. Google should have chosen the manufacturer that builds the Kindle Fire.
[Nexus 7 General] Arthur Hucksake:
My first had a loose screen, my second has dead pixels ...and who knows what will be wrong with the third.

And I honestly could not care less what burden it puts on the flow of Nexus 7s to everyone. They shouldn't be this broken to start with.

Hopefully 3rd time lucky or i'll just get a refund and forget about it and be sure to not touch a tablet with any association with Asus.
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
Yes!

Ummmm, what? Do you own any other Asus products? I'm willing to bet you don't. Take a venture over to the Prime forums and come back and tell me that Asus has "really shown well on their recent products." Sheesh.
[Nexus 7 General] Cybore:
Six exchanges? Where were you able to exchange them so quickly at?

Were they dead or stuck pixels? I personally don't mind the latter as much if they are only visible name black screen and with brightness on high. Honestly how often will you be staring at a black screen? Gotta make some sacrifice given how many issues the first batches are seeming to have.

Then again its understandable to want a flawless product you paid good money for.
[Nexus 7 General] just lou:
Please return your 6th N7, and do not get another one. Either you're the unluckiest human on the planet, or you'll never be satisfied.
[Nexus 7 General] BamAlmighty:
Exactly. After the 3rd it's time to just return it and move on. Any time I hear someone made that many returns I can't help to wonder if they have a bad case of OCD.
[Nexus 7 General] Scythe024:
Guess I got lucky, perfect N7 the first time. I'm actually a big Asus fan so glad they made it. I really hate Motorola so glad they didn't make it. Samsung I would of been OK with
[Nexus 7 General] ExploreMN:
Personally, if someone has 6+ returns of the same product under their belt, I kind of hope they keep getting defective units. It's more fun for the rest of the world. Even mice are smart enough to learn that if touching a kick plate in an attempt get a food pellet ends up giving them an electric shock without the pellet, they quickly stop doing it.

Hmmm....maybe this is why we use mice in experiments. Seems like in some cases, they are actually smarter than the average human. :silly:

Six defective units in a row and you keep trying...foolish.
[Nexus 7 General] noobletsausecakebbq:
I got a pretty good one from first try. Nothing major, just 1 dead pixel. Most likely gonna keep it... 1 pixel isnt worth returning
[Nexus 7 General] hullbay:
I disagree. 1 dead pixel is 1 dead pixel too many! Why not return it and get a fresh screen? Usually one leads to more down the road anyways.
[Nexus 7 General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
Because you might end up doing it 6 times...in the end you should be happy even if there is one dead pixel. As long as its not dead center on the screen it wont bother. Better than screen lift or bleeding issues...I would take a nexus 7 with only one dead pixel right away, even though I fully understand that we paid for a new product...
[Nexus 7 General] :
I have an Asus notebook and it's the best dang pc I ever had! Will have my N7 tomorrow, cant wait!!! Op, that's just unreal. On #3 I would have gotten a refund.:cool:
[Nexus 7 General] croques:
Is the OP for real? My guess he's a shill.
[Nexus 7 General] a1qwyx20:
lol going on 6 units?? dude give up already.

I had one, loose screen, didnt read about it online so returned for another one, then the next one had the same thing, i was like whatever bringing it back. Then I waited and just sold it online do to it being sold out everywhere. Told the guy about the problem and he said he could fix it...resorting back to the playbook which I just cant seem to get rid of..
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
My nexus 7 had screen lift of issue and I fixed it. It also has wash out problem after watching movies but it happens for few second but I am not exchanging it because I don't want something worse. I am learning to live with that problem as I mostly use it to play game which work fine. If it stops working some day then I would simply throw it trash and move on. Until then I am having quite a bit fun with my Nexus and it is making me regret again that I should have become an electronics engineer and keep on fixing the problems Nexus is throwing towards me.

I hope this screen wash out after playing videos is the last of the problems. Oh did I mention that it have multi touch problem when laying flat on bed. I have bought a small stand to cater this multi touch issue because I don't feel like holding it over extended period of time as I use it long periods of time through out the day.

For screen wash out the work around is that as soon as I finish watching videos I would press power button to put it on sleep and then back on again. Wash out gone. Wash out also go away automatically but it takes few seconds.

After all these problems I still love my nexus and I am giving my money to Google on play store just to support them to make better products. A competition is always good otherwise apple would keep on mesmerizing people with just incremental updates and people would kept on feeling wowed. I might have got the bad piece but nexus 7 has all the ingredients of an excellent product and it is indeed an excellent product. However Nexus 7 would be short lived until Apple would come up with iPad mini and people would go crazy over it without realizing that they are buying an inferior product as compared to iPad 3 at a much higher cost benefit ratio. Someone has said quietly rightly that Nexus 7 only misses an apple logo otherwise it is a fantastic product. Having said that I would still like to see screen with a better quality in same price range. I have not heard about many products having so many screen related issues. As far as tablets are concerned screen is the most important part because this is where user would keep on looking until it is using the tablet.
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
Typing such a long post with speed and ease have made me appreciate the keyboard on nexus 7 and the awesome 7 inch form factor for typing long texts. I could have never done that on my iPad 3
[Nexus 7 General] mrRobinson:
yea i think if you are seeing minor problems you can live with for now you should exchange it later hoping they might resolve some of them in manufacturing. doing an rma now on it you will just be getting one prone to the same issues.
[Nexus 7 General] jamerican413:
It's just my opinion, but you're making a mistake and short-changing yourself. You have two major problems (and you had three). You deserve to get what you paid for. I'd suggest getting an RMA and requesting a replacement. For the money you paid, you have the right to enjoy the product at its full potential. I'm not sure what kind of point you're trying to make by keeping such a defective product.
[Nexus 7 General] ngocdao:
What do you expect?.. Building a tablet that is equivalent in power as their latest tf300 model but at almost half the price?

And isnt it google's design? Asus just assembles it... No?

lol.. The kindle fire is freaking thick and klunky. Ew.
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
Yes, you are right my friend but my problem is that I bought it from US but I am not in US these days for quite some time. Sending the nexus to Google from here through shipping would cost so much that it is not worth it.

If I reach back US before my warranty expires then I would replace it. Also replacing it now means getting another piece with similar problems.
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
Yes kindle fire is thick but it is well made as compared to Nexus 7. I have both so I can compare them.
[Nexus 7 General] ngocdao:
Yes... I still cant picture myself carrying that clunk around. (the kindle)
[Nexus 7 General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
True I also had both devices. And built quality of the kindle fire is so much better its not even funny. I had 2 Asus tablets up to now and both had serious issues. Now hoping that my nexus 7 replacement will be acceptable. It won't be perfect but I would be happy if it would be OK enough for me to use for now...
[Nexus 7 General] angel7000:
Get a nook color, root it and call it a day.
[Nexus 7 General] ExploreMN:
No USA friends or relatives that can take care of it for you?
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
Yes I have friends and relative in US but the problem is to deliver it to them. Also the problems I am facing does not appear show breaker for me but just enough to spoil the fun a little. Even if I get a flawless device there are still problems that I have to live with e.g. small text rendering of Nexus 7 in play store and chrome. Whenever I look at the small text in play store I have to take a deep breath. This is the problem with every nexus and then comes the screen colors i.e. green color is not properly calibrated and gamma is way out.

Now even if get the flawless device I won't be able to enjoy that more than what I am enjoying with current one.

Your suggestions are valid are I would think about it and in a day or two I would finally decide what to do with it.
[Nexus 7 General] njd23:
How could they have done a "great" job with so many widespread issues? The OP is proof alone that Asus has a serious QC problem. It's not that he has bad luck, it's just that people with zero issues have good luck.

I returned my tablet for a refund because I don't want to play the tablet lottery, praying every time that I'd get a good one. I'm done with Android tablets until they can get the hardware manufacturer's (notably Asus) can get their **** together.
[Nexus 7 General] ExploreMN:
I think its been established the OP was full of crap and probably a shill for some other company.
[Nexus 7 General] just lou:
You still believe the OP? Seriously?
[Nexus 7 General] miketoasty:
Owned an Asus Laptop, Netbook, TF101 (OG Transformer) and now this and have never had any issues other than a wonky charging cable for the netbook. Perfect 4 for 4 from Asus so far.
[Nexus 7 General] charco83:
Even if he is lying he's not exactly far off the mark. Seems to be plenty of RMAs going on. I've never had so many problems with a new device. I'll be on my third one soon and seems others are having similar "luck".

Things like screen bleed, dead pixels etc seem few and far between but the screen separation seems to be a massive issue and one that'll haunt Google/Asus for some time. Already two people I know have decided not to purchase after hearing of my experiences. Obviously people with negative experiences speak louder than those who have positive, but it seems those having positive experiences are in a very small minority. It says it all when it takes 50+ mins on the phone to get a Google CSR and it takes 3-4 days for them to reply to emails. Inundated with complaints.
[Nexus 7 General] InfinitiGuy:
Remember that 99% of Nexus 7 owners will never post here. Of those that do, the ones who experience problems will appear to be the loudest voice and artificially portray that the entire product is faulty. Mine has been problem free since I bought it 2 weeks ago but my voice and others will appear to represent the minority of owners. If you're looking for a good sized affordable tablet, I would have no issue recommending the Nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 General] matthewr87:
The OP may or may not have been full of crap. However, I personally have returned 3 tablets for the screen separation issue. A further 4 demo units I saw also had the same problem. I still have not personally seen a tablet without screen separation. I don't have any kind of vendetta against the tablet or Asus/Google. That is simply my experience.
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
I agree and you have made a right choice. The percentage of bad products are high if we consider the other products made by companies with better QC like samsung, apple etc.
[Nexus 7 General] ExploreMN:
^^^^^^^^ This 100000+ times.

Also, it is very real that companies do have staff go to very popular sites (of which XDA is one) and post BS and lies like this to damage competitor's products.
[Nexus 7 General] Droiduser212:
I've had to return 2 nexus 7's. The first one for 1 dead pixel. The second one bcuz I forgot the pin lock to use the tablet. The factory hard reset option when u hold the buttons down DO NOT work. No option come out when I tried and failed pin lock over 70 times. Google customer service say they are aware of the problem.
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
Give the break to OP. He might be exaggerating but this is the known fact now that many users have screen problems and screen separation is only one of them. Many users even don't know they have faulty product because ignorance is bliss so they are happy with it. I have problems with mine but I am keeping it. I also had the screen separation problem and I fixed it through washer solution.

The colors of the screen are not good at all and specially green is dull. Many users don't know this and they feel that it is fine. Although it is a software issue but it is there and it is making the whole screen a bit washed out when compared with others. The whites also have problem and many users don't know it. I don't expect it to match iPad 3 screen but at least put the calibration in order so that people can enjoy the current hardware to its potential. Personally I would pay 50-100 dollars more for a better screen.

Anyways I bought the device to play games especially Tegra optimized games on it and it does its job nicely (except Asphalt 7) so I am not complaining and I am keeping my Nexus. It also gives me a different taste as compared to iPad 3 so I like it. I am bored of iPads anyway having owned all from 1 to 3.
[Nexus 7 General] iorecki:
Game Stop doesnt refund open packages/ only does exchange....so yea OP is full of ****
[Nexus 7 General] Darkhallway:
Bad luck everywhere. So happy mine's been working perfect, with no flaws.
[Nexus 7 General] just lou:
I'm glad that you think most Nexus 7 users are too stupid to know their tablets are defective. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 7 General] Rsmin:
Would love to get the Nexus 7 just for reading. The 7" size seems like a great idea, but these threads are so much like the Transfomer Prime threads. I bought the Prime when it first came out and luckily got a fairly decent one, but the amount of issues that others were having were daunting. I know others have said go look at the forums for the Ipad and others and you will see issues, and I somewhat agree but with the Prime and now with the Nexus 7 they seem more excessive than others. I may wait and see if the issues calm down some with later runs or maybe second generations. I really do think the 7" size is perfect. I like using my prime at home, but its just a little too big to take out and read while on the move and with my age and eyes, reading on my Galaxy Nexus gets a little tiring.

Anyway, will keep an eye on the Nexus 7 and hope you are enjoying your experience with it.
[Nexus 7 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I'm not a shill and I can tell you that I have returned three already. Two had screen separation and flicker and one had just flicker.

I am awaiting number four which arrives tomorrow. If it's bad, I'm giving up for a while.

With that being said, my coworker has a defect free 8gb version. That is the only thing that's keeping me somewhat hopeful.
[Nexus 7 General] omnianick:
A bird in the hand..........
[Nexus 7 General] galaxyjeff:
Mine is defect free. It's an 8gb one also. I just wish my DSL was faster so I could enjoy HD YouTube videos on it.
[Nexus 7 General] ExploreMN:
You have to keep it in perspective. XDA is the goto site for people to come and complain about all things Android or Android related. I've even heard Best Buy and Barnes & Nobles employees tell people about the great "support" they can get coming here. Its like you spending time in a hospital and getting the impression everyone on the planet is sick with something.
[Nexus 7 General] Solange82200:
After reading here iwas scared to replace mine for fear of getting a worse one, but got my first replacement last night and am so happy I did. The left side of the screen is flush with the bezel as opposed to the right which is a tad bit lower, but it doesn't move or make noise at all and is so much better than my first one that had the left side only sticking up a bit but felt squishy and made clicking noises when pushed. If you have a defective one, at least try once to get it replaced., I'm so happy I did.

For anyone still unhappy, and even those of you who have had numerous bad replacements, there is no reason for you to settle with a less than perfect one when we know there are some out there that are. Even if you have to get a refund and wait a month to buy one again, do that.

One weird thing about mine though. I don't think it's Necessarily from a newer batch than my old one, since my old one came with 4.1.1 and this one with 4.1. So I don't know why it's better, but it is and I'm happy,. I will be getting a square trade warranty on it though, just in case. They had a special on their Site a while back for a 2 year warranty on the 16 gig for 40 bucks (as opposed to 50), but if you call supposedly they honor the sale price. No deductibles either...
[Nexus 7 General] tribestros:
I want to punch you in the mouth, you self righteous jerk.
[Nexus 7 General] flathead031:
I tried a replacement once and it was much worse than my original one. So I decided to just deal with a very slight screen lift and flickering instead of exchanging multiple times. Nexus 7 has been pretty good aside from those 2 issues.
[Nexus 7 General] matthewr87:
Just picked up my 4th N7 from Staples. SSN: C70KBC27XXXX

Came into the store today. No idea where/when it shipped from. However, it shipped with 4.1 so I assume it is still from the old batch. Has the screen lift issue and backlight bleed on left side. Bringing it back to the store tomorrow

*sigh*
[Nexus 7 General] Exino:
I had four myself...

#1: Loose screen

#2: Loose screen and creaky as sin

#3: Backlight bleeding, and loose screen

#4: Loose screen and was separated so much I could slid paper under the glass and the LCD panel

Sorry, but ASUS isn't what I thought it was in regards to QC. For the people with flawless devices, you're either extremely lucky, or really don't care, but, I don't keep things that are broken or flawed. I understand nothing is perfect, but if there is a device in a box somewhere in better condition than my own brand new item, I'll return it until I get that one.

I guess for now, I'll spend the money elsewhere, and wait for them to 'refresh' their design.
[Nexus 7 General] espionage724:
Is it confirmed that new batches ship with higher android versions (4.1.1 in this case)?
[Nexus 7 General] matthewr87:
Honestly, I think that is pure speculation. I saw it mentioned on this forum a few times though. I also saw some people trying to make sense of the SSN number and saying that you can decipher the month it was built. I doubt that too.
[Nexus 7 General] wynand32:
I just received a replacement today, and it updated immediately after I registered it. So, unless mine wasn't actually part of a later batch, I'd say they're still shipping with the previous version.
[Nexus 7 General] krazichinaman:
That is their usual policy. However, they do make special exceptions. I randomly purchased a unit in store on 7/14. I did not realize until 7/18 that the headphone jack was faulty and would only play from 1 side of the ear bud. I was on a plane so I wasn't able to exchange my unit until 7/29. The 2nd unit had a distorted speaker right off the bat and I went back to the store a few hours later to exchange it for my 3rd unit. The 3rd unit had ghosting problem and the store employees said they had no more in stock but would try to get others in from another store. I would be getting it sometime today (wednesday or thursday).

Fast forward to today, when I called the store they said they weren't sure when my replacement unit would actually come in. I asked them if they would just give me a refund and after about 5 minutes of saying "We can't because its open, We can't because you didn't buy it from this store, we can't because we don't have the petty cash to give you." They finally said they would credit the total amount to my Amex which I had originally purchased the device on.

I went back home and promptly purchased my 4th unit now through the Google Play store. Although I had no problems with the service of Gamestop, they even went above and beyond for allowing me to exchange 2 units and get my money back on the 3rd, I rather deal with Google directly.

With gamestop, they will only allow an exchange of the device within 30 days of purchase. After 30 days you would deal with the manf. You also have the option to purchase their extended warranty which extends the manf warranty for another year. Say, on day 35, the unit goes faulty, you would either have to contact the manf for service or you can exchange it from Gamestop but you would use your warranty credit. You then would get a new unit, and your 30 day exchange policy goes into effect or you can purchase their extended warranty again.

I rather deal with the Google directly and go through them if anything happens within the 1st year.....:good:
[Nexus 7 General] 18dave12:
The headphone jack is incredibly tight. MANY people think the jack is inoperative. Are you positive that you shoved the plug in really, really HARD?? It's a common issue with the N7. the jack isn't defective--it's much tighter than your average jack.
[Nexus 7 General] krazichinaman:
Yup positive. The 2nd and 3rd units, both jacks worked fine. The 1st unit was just faulty. Tried 3 different headphones all if the same results. Even had a co-worker that was flying with me try his and the same results. If you jiggled it enough and held it half way out it would cut in and out of both ear buds. Something was just really wonky with that jack...The first unit was awesome too...none of the issues as unit 2 or 3...arg

The excitement of this device has quickly died and its just becoming more of a head ache. I'm just hoping the the 4th unit from google will be a new batch and not have these issues...if not, then its off to the 5th unit! :crying:
[Nexus 7 General] billybobray:
Noob question but how do you test for dead pixels?
[Nexus 7 General] spencer88:
Dead pixel test from the play store.
[Nexus 7 General] drawde40599:
Nope , I love mine !!ive had mine about a month it runs freaking great no issues at all ,I'm unlocked rooted with PARANOID ANDROID ROM in tablet mode with trinity kernel over clocked 100% of the time at 1600 . . For the price and what Google intended this tablet for , I couldn't ask for anything better or be happier .
[Nexus 7 General] Paragon:
Dead pixels can come and go. A dead pixel is simply a pixel that has failed to turn on. It may turn on next time it is called or it may not. There are dead pixels on almost every screen manufactured if you look for them.
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
Slight correction. Dead pixels don't come and go. They're dead- no light is coming through them. Stuck pixels, which are pixels stuck on a certain color, can come and go though.