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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
You are the first person to have given me an actual potential solution. Thank you for this!!! I'll report back in a few when I give it a shot. I think I've changed the "Force GPU acceleration" option before but never both, BRB! Thank you again!

BTW, what thread did you find that in? A JB thread?

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Yeah I never did on my first device either. I just did on the new one for the hell of having a CWM backup of a pure stock ROM and to "officially" upgrade the modem just for a change.

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So I just tried again enabling those two debugging options and had no luck. Still just as laggy and skippy with low frame rates (even after rebooting). Back to the drawing board.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rohankb:
That was in this thread, about 2-3 pages back on the 13th the day after this last release dropped. Your issues arise probably from how you are running your phone.

Are you using any launchers? Like I am using Apex launcher. Some use Nova. The stock launcher that came with the 8_03 release seemed sluggish to me. Now on this latest release there is Trebuchet back on it.

Are you running any widgets on your homescreens? I use none.

Don't use any live wallpapers, they draw unnecessary cpu and gpu usage.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
Well, disable hw overlay never stays checked for me, but force gpu rendering does.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
I'm not using a live wallpaper but I'm using many widgets on apex. Tweetcaster pink taking up a full screen 5x5, touhou battery widget 2x2, screen filter 1x1, beautiful widgets 5x2 superclock, poweramp 4x1, Pandora 4x1, setcpu 1x1.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] paleh0rse:
Just out of curiosity, have you tried it without an external SDcard being inserted? (Completely remove the SDcard and try it again)...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] chp:
I've noticed my battery life on these releases has gotten really poor. Is everyone else seeing this as well? I'm seeing >10%/hr. I just tried a factory reset and reflash of 0813 to see if it helps but it isn't looking good.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
Everytime that I install JB to test it, the first thing I do is install Nova and then I assess the graphical performance. That's a clean, just-booted ROM with Nova as default launcher and NO widgets running. Still poor. Adding more widgets or using live wallpapers doesn't make it better or worse so I don't think it's an issue with CPU/GPU/resource utilization.

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Interesting idea... I would be surprised if that was causing but as long as I've been in IT, I've seen crazier **** happen so I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll report back soon.

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Interesting idea... I would be surprised if that was causing but as long as I've been in IT, I've seen crazier **** happen so I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll report back soon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rohankb:
I said that earlier. My battery life is the same as when I was oc'ing at 1836 at 8/3 release.

Really preferred the 8/3. But am sticking it out.

Wishing hotwire would work on the kernel himself but he said it was pretty "messy" so I guess it may of been a bit too overwhelming. But his kernels seemed to be the smoothest add-ons to a variety of ROMs
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
No luck removing the external SD. Same poor performance.

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If you all would like me to take a screencast recording of ICS and JB to show a comparison I can do so. Just let me know.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] NYConex:
That would be great. I wanna see how it compares to mine.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
OK I'll post some better videos when I find a better utility for screen casting. The one I'm using now isn't working correctly so for now, here's a video I posted about a week ago of CM10 running on my Note. It's only 20 seconds because of a trial limitation but it is recorded in 30 FPS so any lag you see is exactly as it appears on the screen in person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCresap3MbQ

Like I said, I'll be back later with videos from ICS and JB for comparison.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] stgeorge88:
pretty much the same here. i'd take it as well acceptable at the stage of the development.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
I agree that it is "acceptable" for alpha stage but most other people using this SAME ROM are having MUCH better success so why not us? There is an HD video of the ROM running on rootgalaxynote.com and it is as smooth as butter.

BTW, does anyone know why the Screencast application is only grabbing just a few frames out of the video?? I made a 40 second recording and the only time I saw movement is when I pull the notification drawer down. I can see the cursor illustrating my finger gestures but it just stays on the homescreen until I pull the notification drawer down.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
I don't see a single cursor in the video you posted but i see it performing quite well. It's a small amount of lag compared to mine. your video was 20 seconds long for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
Yeah that's the old video I made with the trial version of screencast. I just bought the Pro but it isn't recording correctly. I didn't have the cursor enabled in the old video you saw. I may need to just physically record the screen with another camera to give you the right perspective. I don't exactly trust the framerate with screencast.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rohankb:
I really don't see why fuss about which is better or smoother. If you prefer ICS over JB then stay there. My ROM runs pretty much similar to yours viewing the video (on my cell) and if that is a deal breaker for you then go back to ICS and be happy.

I'm not 100% happy with this last release but its nothing I can't live without or be patient about. H0tw1r3 along with the many developers aren't being paid for this, so I am humble as the many others on this board.

There are video issues as far as addressing the hardware, no one I don't think stated that as of recent but its evident in looking at quadrant scores from before and after if you look at the individual scores in it for things like 2d and 3d rendering. And I am talking pre JB, running ics.

Have you ever run the stock ics? That sux worse than running this JB ROM so who am I to complain. Runs great and this is my daily driver and thank all those involved with their work and dedication.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvofaSiLqkQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGYkMgoNA6g

I saw that the app slowed my device down considerably comparing to my device in normal use. Judging by your video, it looks about fine for me. I'm perfectly happy, no complaints whatsoever, and i work on changing it if i do have any. but i do suggest you try going into performance and turning on 16 bit transparency, it does help a little bit with performance.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
Yeah I definitely think there maybe some incompatibility issues with ScreenCast and Android ICS/JB. There's a lot of video tearing in your screencasts and in mine I can't even get it to grab 10% of the frames so that's why I haven't posted any yet. I'll 16 bit transparency a try. Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll give it a rest now until some new developments are made since many people are getting the notion that I am complaining.

I don't understand why me trying to figure out this issue is a problem for so many people though... I mean, if we all acknowledge that this ROM is in alpha stage, then shouldn't we all be collaborating on improving the ROM in as many ways as we can instead of leaving it to h0tw1r3 to do all of the work?? If no one mentions or explains their issues, then how can the progress of the development move forward?? I'm not complaining that h0tw1r3's work wasn't good enough. I'm only expounding on my experiences so that we can help him improve the software.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
Don't get me wrong, i personally think it's because you're speaking with other power users such as yourself, not a lot of us have actual knowledge of developing, much less of the platform JB that recently came out that we're all poking around on. You've made your point over a couple times now, and there's nothing that any of us know how to help about it. if you want to do something other than repeat yourself, then why don't you get a dmesg and link it to his google+ or link it in here and i can link it to his google+.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Shdowalker:
I'm currently on the 813 build with the 802 gapps and was able to change my density using the exact method you described, both to 213 & 240 without a hitch (although the 240 offsets the center of the slide lock - that's what I'm on now
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] VoluntaryMan:
There's always his github as well... there seems to be only a couple people using the issue reporting there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
i did so and supplied pictures earlier xD
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Shdowalker:
Noticed after I posted lol thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] NYConex:
Thanks for the video. I'd say mine is about the same as yours. I noticed that you are using apex. Any launcher other than the stock one would lag real bad for me. I don't know exactly what it takes to figure out lag issue. If I can be of any help to anyone trying to figure it out let me know!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
Thanks for the offer! Hopefully you and I can gain some traction.with this and start contributing on h0tw1r3's github. I usually use Nova but happen to try Apex in that old video that I gave you the link to. Unfortunately I experience about the same amount of lag in every launcher I try. What all JB ROM's have you tried aside from this one? (Although they're all based off of the same source as this one).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rohankb:
For what it's worth, I was curious as to other's opinions on which launcher was best and take a look at this poll

http://omgdroid.com/late-night-poll-apex-launcher-nova-launcher-or-trebuchet/

and look here at others opinions on here using the different launchers

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1608823

Consensus seems to lean towards Apex on many fronts as far as speed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 9wire:
Apex has a setting for page speed, 20 seems to work well, I also set my animations to .5, cut the lag, or at least the appearances of lag, quite a bit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rohankb:
From what the settings say, wouldnt '0' be the fastest?

And this article says to turn off animations for a faster response? Thair? Wanna try this?

http://www.cultofandroid.com/11143/...disable-animations-for-a-snappier-experience/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] NYConex:
i have pretty much tried them all. i liked h0twires 0803 build the most. it was my daily driver for a while. paranoid tends to reboot on me. coming from a gsm nexus i know what its capable of so i really cant wait for all the kinks to get ironed out. i really wish i knew more about how the inner workings of android work. i was going to attempt compiling jellybean and learn as i go but i only have a 32-bit computer and you need 64 for jelly bean...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
Just know guys, when you use apex, make sure you go into about apex in the settings to get the beta version of the launcher which was built off jb sources, them come back and report.

It's considerably different. It's better

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 9wire:
Back when apex first came out, there seemed to be a glitch that 20 was actually faster than 0, I've done it ever since. Does make difference playing with the settings.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] borijess:
Trying the beta and opening the drawer seems to be a little laggy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gregsarg:
I really like zeam launcher as well .

When I had my inspire , I preferred zeam over the others.

It was recommended to me by attn1 ....who obviously knows his business. And i've used it ever since.

It runs exceptionally well on CM based roms ..g
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 98HTTR91:
Just noticed that h0tw1r3's CM10 section is gone. :confused:

edit : on Goo.im that is.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Shdowalker:
https://github.com/h0tw1r3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rohankb:
Not getting excited or anything but shows he just pushed another update to github 5min ago at the time of this writing. Don't chew off my head @mechapanda lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] wase4711:
goo.im has been having lots of issues the last few days..wonder where he might drop this latest release...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ltilt2:
He uploaded a new cm9
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rohankb:
Yeah but shows he's doing some work on jellybean as well. So something's coming...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
My penis is erecting....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] truth77:
for anybody having any flash player problems use E floating browser in the market with the newest flash player in the thread and you'll have no issues ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ltilt2:
A new release with an OC kernel
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
Yeah... I'm definitely all the way up now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rohankb:
tmi

Yeah noticed he was messing with the kernel, addressing the video playing on landscape, enabling flashlight toggle and seems like the external_sd? I thought it was a google requirement to use this new sdcard0 and sdcard1?

https://github.com/h0tw1r3/android_device_samsung_quincy-common/compare/ics...jellybean
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rohankb:
Thair you got your answer on Github?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
Actually I did. He's having the EXACT same experience as me and described it the same way. I guess it is a matter of expectations. I just don't understand how people can perceive JB as smoother than ICS (some people have said that) so that's why I doubted the expectation possibility.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
I'm not saying mine is ****ing amazing, but it's great for me, i don't doubt the expectation theory in the least bit. I'm perfectly happy with mine even though i do get a small bit of lag.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
I'm selfish and ungrateful. For that, I apologize.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] vanemburghj:
Works great for me

Have zero complaints, works like a champ, it is my daily driver and love the Roman numeral ten when it starts up. Also for me PB worked like crap, but hotwire's works fine. After dealing with the same on my Dell Streak it is true one person can have zero issues and another suffers like no tomorrow. I tip my hat to Hotwire and can't wait for his next update, just because a flash a day keeps the porn away........ In closing I have very high expecations and drop a crappy ROM like loaf in the toilet if it just gives me a hint of problem.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] troyolson92:
New kernel is not for cm10 or at least mine says failed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rohankb:
You dont install any kernels for CM10 rom's of h0tw1r3 for anything he released after 7_22. Only 7_22 needed to be patched. In all the later rom releases the kernels were included in the rom itself
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] elry567:
Same here I've been running the latest build since it was released and I honestly have no co.plaints I'm loving it still
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] wase4711:
I apologize for asking, but where can you grab the latest cm10? it seems like its not on goo.im; also, do you use gaaps form 7-26 with it, or do you use the EOS one from 8-2?

thanks~
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
Look I'm my quoted post, it will be the second one. Also, yes, you will want the 8/02 eos gapps, do they have it reuploaded on goo.im or do you have it?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] wase4711:
thanks so much!

no, i thought I had the EOS gaps, but I don't..

appreciate all your help!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dafoxs:
http://db.tt/cyAs3F0h eos gapps

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] wase4711:
thank you very much!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dafoxs:
Hope it works

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 9wire:
After using the latest with the eos gapps and beta apex for a day, it seems have settled in and working quite well. A bit smoother, and I'm thinking snappier as well. I would have to nit pick pretty hard to have a complaint.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] docfreed:
What launcher are you using - my feeling is that this has a great deal to do with "perceived lag". IMHO, hotwire's ROMS have always been very smooth for me (or maybe I am just not as concerned as others about lag
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] elry567:
Stock launcher but I have the disable hw overlay and force GPU rendering checked I think that helped alot
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
Try apex beta :), and i think there's a problem with the hw overlay because mine never stays checked.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] elry567:
OK I will try apex as far as the he overlay mine certainly does stay checked has been for about a day and a half now
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] 9wire:
I was having issues on my Nexus viewing images on forums, somebody suggested I turn off the force 2d rendering, I did and it worked, I've left it off ever since.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
I have placed the build mirror links in the OP, and if goo.im crashes again after more builds come out, i will place them in the OP too. Going to leave the primary build source as goo.im as to not give trouble to dropbox

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dsp0704:
I have looked through Aug 13-14th for an answer but couldn't find one. I have flashed release 08.12. Is that the same (08.13) on op? If it is new release, what was changed?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] VoluntaryMan:
8-13 fixed a few bugs from the 8-12 build such as vibration not working.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ltilt2:
Is the latest what is posted on OP? Confuse cause it seems like 803
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
803 was the last build before we got a new level and left behind overclocking. I left it in there because some nitpickers liked overclocking and don't care for the YouTube fixes. You want 813

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ltilt2:
I didnt OC anyways. Can you post the latest we got from H0tew1r3? Thanks in advance.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
There is two builds links in the op, you want the second. You also want the eos gapps that i put in the OP

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Shdowalker:
Not sure why you'd want a more (stable[er]) stable release than what's already out but another update was pushed for 9 for those interested. Lol is stable-er a word? At the very least, this means goo is working...right!!?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
We don't care about cm9, get out of here with that news :P, but yes, goo is working. He just doesn't like Re-uploading roms apparently.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
Hey guys,

The Kang CM10 ROM in development posted an update with the headline of "HW Acceleration working!" so the issue with the hardware overlay option not staying enabled that was possibly contributing to YouTube playback and Video recording is fixed! He has a Dropbox mirror as well as another in addition to Goo.im (but that download would take hours right now likely due to everyone reuploading their ****). I'm downloading now and will let you guys know my experience (please state otherwise if you'd prefer not hear it lol).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
hmmmph :P

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
Haha I'm so sorry... I didn't think about that hard enough in advance before posting to consider that praising a ROM other than one in the OP could be found offensive to the OP. Actually, I think that his Kang build is derived from h0tw1r3's repo anyways so this could be more of a universal mention since the same change is likely reflected in the latest (or imminent) build from h0tw1r3.

Sorry :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
I'm legitimately curious how this "fixed hardware acceleration" is working out though.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ltilt2:
I didn't see a difference or felt a difference. YT was working fine but out of no where it stopped working. :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
OK so installed the latest Kang release that supposedly fixes hardware acceleration but can't notice a difference. Video recording now works as well as YouTube playback but it's still much less smooth than stable ICS builds. And also, the Hardware Overlay option still doesn't remain checked upon a reboot. If I had to guess, I'd say that it really is never being enabled at all. I'm fairly certain that this option is what is preventing smoothness in the JB ROM's since it regard utilizing the GPU for screen compositing. Back to CM9 for now...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] NYConex:
smoothness is slightly better in that rom but still pretty much the same as h0twires roms.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
about the hardware overlay, i had to cycle developer options to get the disable hw overlays to stick. But you have to be REALLY nitpicky if you can't simply enjoy jb because it's not perfect

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ltilt2:
I am back to CM9 but damn, I miss JB. There is something about JB that keeps pulling me back. Even though I know the bugs it has.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] thair7391:
Nitpicky?? I don't think that's exactly fair. When the primary bug is the lack of smoothness in the entire interface that you are presented with in every instance on your phone, its kind of a big deal for me. I mean even the letter pop ups on the keyboard slow everything down and cause delays that throw my typing off seriously. Scrolling through the Play Store is just laggy and uneasy on the eyes and trying to pan and scroll in web browsers can be a slow and painful process so that's why smoothness is my primary concern. I could deal with YouTube not playing or video recording by the UI is the one thing I'm always accessing. I realize that its just a bug in an alpha stage and thats fine. I just would rather wait until its fixed and use CM9 until then.

**EDIT** I mean to throw in an LOL at the beginning when I said that's not fair. i realize the tone of that response is rather stern without it. IM NOT MAD
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Mechapanda:
I guess I just don't share the same views as you.. Fairness is in the eyes of the beholder. You are expecting things to be instant. Where's the fire? So it takes a quarter of a second longer, big deal.. But, i really have no say in how you play with your expensive toy, enjoy it how you want.

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