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[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
Only other manufacturer I could see for build quality would be htc but no thanks if it has their s on/off crap and "relocked" bootloader bs. Also htc wouldn't be able to make it $200 as they typically aren't willing to compromise on materials, and my flyer was a bit heavy and slick making it difficult to hold
[Nexus 7 General] link12245:
I'm not going to ***** about a screen sticking up less than 1mm, so no. I'm glad that Asus made this device, and as a grown up, I can accept tiny flaws that don't effect usage.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
I'm sure the bezel issues are more due to quick manufacturing to meet demand than build quality. We're all early adopters so we gotta deal with its early issues that will go away eventually.
[Nexus 7 General] Richieboy67:
Mine is perfect so far. With regards to the guy that said the colors were bad, the auto bright adjustment is a bit low to save battery I assume. Once you brighten it up a bit I think this screen is as good as I have seen. Beautiful...

5 dead pixels? Did you see these or only know from an app? How many pixels per sq in? 5 dead seems hard to even see..
[Nexus 7 General] jersonf:
My Nexus 7 is just fine, is this a first batch or a regional thing with all the dead pixel/faulty returns?

I can't help but think .... this isn't the first time people returning products multiple times, I suspect this has happened with another product beforehand.
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
Regardless of the reason, it's a build quality issue.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
It's Asus, come on. They've always made the best stuff. My motherboard and dvd burner are Asus and they both are solid and no issues. I guarantee in a couple months all this will go away.
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
Their tablet business is a different animal. Check out the Transformer Prime forum for a few minutes and you'll see what I mean. Asus is awful.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
I'm a PC guy and I've always loved the Asus brand for parts. My motherboard is actually an AsRock, Asus'es budget brand and Its a $120 AM3+ AMD970 chipset board but looks and feels like a $200+ mobo. UEFI bios, triple crossfire/SLI, SATA 6, USB 3, all solid state caps etc. And that burner I have in my PC is a budget burner sold in OEM only, and I've bought it like 3 times for various PCs of friends and families. And actually have an asus CD burner I bought in 2002 and used till I got my first DVD burner in 2006, then put in my parents system until I built them an all new PC earlier this year with you guessed it, the Asus DVD burner. That CD burner is in a box and still works like new.

My HTC Flyer was really solid in build quality as it was all aluminum and glass but it also was heavy and slick as a result. I'd drop it all the time trying to switch orientation. I thinks this tablet is on par with the flyer build quality wise but much lighter. IMO all companies have issues, at least this thing isn't refusing power on and giving you 3 red lights instead!

As far as another company Motorola? Really? Moto products are pure garbage. My first smartphone was a Motorola MPx220 windows mobile flip phone and the build quality was absolutely terrible. The plastic was low grade like a free toy out of a cereal box, and since Cingular back then wouldn't insure data devices I got quite accustomed to fixing it buying new casings etc. Eventually the Sim card reader stopped working and I had to buy another phone to make it through the rest of my contract. I paid $320 for a 2 year contract width that phone too! But despite this I gave them another shot and bought a new V557 off eBay, and 2 months later the freaking antenna fell off! The threads were stripped and moto wouldn't honor the warranty because it was physical damage. So I vowed never to buy a moto ever again and that was 6 years ago and I haven't since.

Samsung? They are OK. I've had good enough luck I bought 4 phones in a row from them, but my roommate has a gtab2 and the nexus 7s build quality is superior.

Anyway I know it sucks but this happens with all first wave products. Failure rates are higher because stuff is unproven and untested. It'll get better trust me.
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
No offense, but I'd rather base my expectations on recent experiences that I've personally had with Asus (as well as many others here on XDA) over trusting you because you like their motherboards.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
None taken but I still think the tab quality is excellent, and manufacturing issues are more to blame than anything. I've been lurking on these forums and I originally planned on grabbing a nexus 7 from a retailed but after reading about Googles warranty exchange service and all the issues everyone's having I decided to go through the play store. I originally felt it would be best to wait but decided I hated my flyer, never was happy with it, and time to cut my losses in favor of a tab that would stay supported until the hardware is declared outdated

I am sorry for your bad luck though. I've had mine for only 2 days, no issues yet doesn't, mean I won't have them. Probably will wait to root until I'm certain mine is unlikely to break
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
No worries. I love the device, primarily because of Google's software. It's stable and snappy, and makes up for Asus's hardware IMHO.

As far as rooting, remember that this is a Nexus device, so you're safe as far as unlocking and rooting right out of the box. If anything goes wrong, a simple factory reset and "fastboot oem lock" will bring you right back to stock. No reason to wait if you're interested in rooting.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
Yeah I guess they are primarily a computer hardware company not a computer manufacturer. Hopefully they get these issues sorted out. As for rooting, pretty happy with it for now, actually still trying to find a reason to root lol
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
I do know this, Google picked Asus because of their success with android tablets not for build quality. It's like their phones. They continue to pick Samsung because they are slaughtering the competition in sales. I'd much rather have htc make them with their bullet proof build quality, superior super lcd screens, and better camera technology but Google doesn't care about all that. However Asus has had the most success with android tablets while Samsung has made 50 different galaxy tab models and supported them poorly and had mediocre to bad tablet sales. It seems like Google picking Asus over them did hit them personally though as they've only released 2 galaxy tab2 models this year and actually have already given them 2 system updates(I know this because my roommate).

I do wish Google would choose the best hardware instead of sales but it is what it is
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
Google picked Asus because they were the only one able (or willing) to make a tablet for $200. That's it. End of story.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
Ha I wouldn't say that. The Chinese have made a million android tablets for $200 or less.
[Nexus 7 General] Tomatoes8:
HTC is the worst. Although I only had one of their products, the One X, I will never go HTC ever again.
[Nexus 7 General] ExploreMN:
They finally upgraded my Evo 3D to ICS! That was nice of them. The camera...even in 2D mode is still so slow it is practically unusable though...
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
I'm in that same boat but as far as the nexus its a google phone IMO. The manufacturer is just a contractor hired by google, and HTC has the best build quality hands down, and their Super LCD screens own retina and super amoled displays. But their support is terrible, their skin is the most intrusive outdated piece of crap, and their products are hard to hack and develop for. Their "S-on/S-off" crap is unnecessary crap that's completely unneeded and I didn't even know what that meant until I got an HTC. Yeah They screwed Flyer owners over, freaking released May of 2011 and no further updates after laggycomb. And then my HTC Vivid might never get CM10 because they locked down the RIL to only work with AT&T based sense roms! And then the icing on the cake, I got the flyer returned to stock to sell and I'm checking everything out making sure its a 100% stock and I notice in their "Hboot" bios it shows "re-locked" for bootloader status. So if you root your warranty is void, nothing you can do about it, so I hope my Vivid doesn't break now. I still don't see why software matters for warranty claims. You can buy a Dell laptop, throw linux on it, and a part fails its still covered by warranty. But if i put CM10 on my android device, and the power button, or screen fails, I'm screwed. Doesn't make sense, not at all.

But I'm pretty much saying I'd rather have them for Nexus phones instead of Samsung as their build quality is better, and their camera's are better. I don't get why Google always puts a crappy 5 megapixel shooter in every freaking phone they make. 5mp shooters were nice...in 2008! Also the Samsung Super Amoled screen is horribly outdated, HTC's Super LCD screens would be much better suited. A Nexus Device based off the One X would be sweet. And I almost bet, that HTC"s "relocked" status and S crap wouldn't make the final cut either. Remember they did make a Nexus before and it was pretty nice.
[Nexus 7 General] Stevenator21:
You re on you 7 the Nexus 7. Its gonna work because of the 7 's.
[Nexus 7 General] mi7chy:
Some people will never be happy. I would've cut my losses after three strikes and wait for an updated hardware revision. Any more than three is just wasting everyone's time and driving up the cost of future devices.
[Nexus 7 General] MattSkeet:
Well I'm going to replace a 4th one ... funny because each unit I get is worse then previous ... I have enough of Asus **** if my next unit is going to be faulty I'll probably never buy anything from them again. 2 different devices I had and both have nearly same issues ....

I would really like to see HTC making next nexus device
[Nexus 7 General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
Don't think that is the case...Samsung I.e. has released a few tablets in the 250 euro range which would be the same price as nexus 16 GB...
[Nexus 7 General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
If you really think that HTC is the worst, based on one of the best Android phones of the recent years you can't be helped. I would take a nexus based on one x any day over another amoled pentile garbage from Samsung...
[Nexus 7 General] AuxiliaryPie:
I dont understand the bashing of the OP here... he bought a device, it was not exactly how it SHOULD be, so he returned it. Dead pixels are NOT OK, a squeaky bezel is NOT OK. He has every right to return it until he gets a perfect one like so many others have. If you guys think he should just stop and either not have the tablet he wants or just accept a less than perfect device, what the hell is wrong with you?

its posts like this:

He WILL be happy when he gets a device with a flawless screen and no bezel/screen lifting issues. Him returning each defective one is a good thing, it tells google that Asus ****ed up again and again and will (hopefully) change something. If you see the price go up on the Nexus 7 and google says "we delivered so many defective devices that we're raising the price" i will personally buy you a new, higher priced, likely still broken, Nexus 7.

He bought something, it wasn't how it was supposed to be. He returned it. I fail to see what is so wrong about that?
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
That's fine, but Samsung has't even sniffed the $200 price range here in the U.S., and Google is pushing the N7 hard here.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
I agree with that. 7 broken tabs means 7 exchanges, that's the bottom line. He might be able to live with it but why should he have to? You got a warranty use it! Eventually he'll get one with no issues until then keep them coming! If it costs Google and Asus money then they can use the massive amounts of returns as inspiration for a hardware revision!
[Nexus 7 General] tabing:
Yesterday I got the first build quality is excellent but this device is bad idea. Nothing new in there plus flash is gone. Boring tablet. Returning mine. I can't see this tablet in my room. Waste of time and money.
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
Cool story, bro.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
Lmao boring what did you think it would have htc sense or Touchwiz on it? This tab is great.

What exactly is it you don't like? Keep in mind it's android, you can change almost everything stock and literally everything rooted. For me i didn't care for the phone launcher, installed apex, boom head shot!
[Nexus 7 General] wilbur-force:
It makes me laugh when people don't research things before buying. A quick Google would have shown it didn't have anything but raw android - which for many of us is a bonus !!!!

And as for flash that will be gone (officially) for all new tablets that ship with jelly bean.

I love this tab too and its EXACTLY what I expected because I researched it.....
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
Same here, btw if flash is that big of a deal breaker for anyone, there are ways to get it back just check the forums. As for me flash isn't that big of a deal as it's on its way out anyway
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
Exactly. It took me all of 15 minutes to root my N7, install the AOSP browers, and install flash. It works flawlessly. I had to pull out the "troll" card, but the OP is a little ridiculous.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
I still think the issue's with the nexus are blown out of proportion. It's seemed in my flyer community people were having bad charge ports all the time but my flyer held up, and my nexus seems perfect so far. All companies have failure rates, and typically people who liked their stuff never get online to compliment it. The nexus tablet looks and feels solid
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
For flash one does not even need to root the N7. Just install the flash apk and install the firefox beta. I did it went I didn't root my N7 for few days and it worked just fine. Once rooted you can have the old android browser as well. I tried the old browser without root but it was crashing when I open it.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
This. Plain and simple if flash is a deal breaker than install it and stop whining lol
[Nexus 7 General] p-slim:
Lmao @ 6 replacements. I have other words for op but I don't want to troll
[Nexus 7 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
If the OP is a troll then I must be one too. My perfect unit is number 7, so I also had 6 replacements. I'm happy now because this device was worth the effort for me.
[Nexus 7 General] tlr1000:
I haven't found any of the issues with mine. Maybe I got lucky or could be that a lot of people that don't have problems don't bother posting about it.
[Nexus 7 General] kangxi:
I'm on device #1. Perfect. So is my wife's. 16GB and 8GB model respectively.
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
Give me a break. Asus being a cost-cutting company that doesn't believe in quality control doesn't make the OP a troll.
[Nexus 7 General] Bielinsk:
What makes him a troll, was that when he posted, the 16gb was sold out everywhere. There was no way he possibly could have received so many replacement units.
[Nexus 7 General] wynand32:
It's ironic then if he really was a troll, since so many other people have had similar issues. I stopped at two replacements (three units total) because I'm going to give some time and then purchase from a B&M when (hopefully) new and fixed stock ships out. But I can easily see someone going through seven units (and even then, I'll bet there's screen lift even if it's not so bad that it's worth replacing over).
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
If that's the case, then I stand corrected.
[Nexus 7 General] yanksrock1000:
Not quite. may Sam's Clubs and Gamestop's had some left in stock. During the same time, I went through 3.
[Nexus 7 General] jlczl:
I can't find anything wrong with my unit either. 1st one was perfect.
[Nexus 7 General] just lou:
Do you really think that within a week of its release, the OP scored 6 N7's, from 3 different sources, including 3 from the Google Play Store? Even if it was true, anyone that would buy 5 defective products and go back for a 6th, is not right in the head.
[Nexus 7 General] sec6:
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[Nexus 7 General] joveezy:
I'm on my second one and about to go to my third. First one I got had screen lift and flicker. The second one I got, which I'm using now, has screen lift too. I also noticed that my second unit has a warmer/more color accurate picture than my first, but has worse speakers, and I occasionally get some kind of weird screen glitch for a split second ( just a horizontal line.).

Hope the third one is better.
[Nexus 7 General] justmiike:
It doesn't matter who makes this. It's just your luck.

And what's with everyone having a go at the OP? You pay good money for a product and you expect to at least not have bloody dead pixels? I swear the nerve of some people having a go at him is ridiculous. How would you like it if you had 3 dead pixels in the middle of your screen or 1 in an area that pisses you off? Some of you posters need to get off your high horse. It has nothing to do with you so grow up!

I have had a terrible run with dead pixels from TV screens, 3DS, PSP you name it. Some developed later on in their life (which you can't do much about it) and others happened when you turned the device on. It's definitely a defect in the screen, it's not how a product should be! LCDs are prone to it.

And what is everyone talking about? You can have a perfect product.

Anyway, my first Nexus I bought had 3 dead pixels, and 1 right in the middle. I exchanged it the next day and that Nexus had 1 dead pixel, it was stuck as it was bright on black backgrounds and very noticeable. My 3rd Nexus was perfect. No issues. After 3 days of use, one tiny black pixel appeared (yes, it's not dust). Now, I am contemplating returning it, but I don't want to. I put a screen protector on it and customised it.

But seriously, this is the 3rd one? It's a great tablet, but what's with the quality control? And don't post silly replies like, my Nexus is fine, of course majority will be fine. But the luck factor for some users is quite low.
[Nexus 7 General] dandyqb:
i bought my nexus 7 sealed and in good condition, after almost 2 weeks of use, i discovered a slight screen lift on the left side of my screen, so i opened my n7 to fix such issue but to my amaze, found out that my n7 has a 2 missing screws,..

i know this is Asus production's fault :mad:
[Nexus 7 General] bftb0:
justmike,

You revived a cheese & whine thread that was 7 months old?

FWIW, many manufacturers explicitly state in their warranties that 100% of pixels are not guaranteed to be nominal. I don't know if that's the case for the N7 or not.

Similarly, I don't even know if my N7 has a dead/stuck pixel or two. It's just not in my nature to search every micron of my devices looking for an excuse to be unhappy.

This thread is kind of a riot, actually - I think the funniest thing I've seen in it so far was someone complaining that "the bezel squeaks when I compress it against the glass".

If I have this thing for 5 years I don't think I will ever have a need to squeeze the bezel.

IT OCD / First World Problem
[Nexus 7 General] justmiike:
Why does it matter if it's 7 months old? Subject/issue still current, therefore discussion permitted.

Yes, it is. If you look at the warranty, it does state that. You need about 3 dead (black) or/and 3 bright (stuck) pixels to return it (but, local store will exchange it anyway). 1 or 3 still a defect.

But I didn't look at the N7 looking at every pixel. I was reading on it and bang, there it was. I thought it was dust or a mark, but no. Not an excuse to be unhappy. I'm actually thinking of leaving it now, can't be bothered going to the store again.

Honestly, the only issues I have with products usually is dead pixels, I RARELY get a device that's broken. But in my opinion dead pixels are not on. But I guess I will most likely live with this one, since it's the 3rd one, over it.

It's not OCD, it's a defect. There's a difference when it comes to dead pixels and that's the risk you take with LCD. I can return it local store no problems, but I might have to settle. But with my experience with these, once you get one, more will most likely appear later on. I proved that with my PSP-2000 and DS. Both had one, they both developed 3-4 more by the 4-5th year. PSP-2000 ended up with more issues. They can be a sign for more issues.

Anyway, all I am saying is if you paid for it, you expect at least no defects and people need to understand the frustration consumers have and have every right to be. Especially concerning the screen. I haven't looked for them, I stumbled upon them when I was reading (which is a popular activity with tablets of today).
[Nexus 7 General] craig1965:
Im trying to return mine now but Asus are being a pain in the backside asking for photos to prove my claims before they will even consider picking it up

It has what I am told is a ghost ring on the screen it looks exactly like a coffee cup ring but only shows up when powered on for a while ive cleaned the screen till its spotless but still it will not go

It also has a very loose usb port this was from new it wont hold a cable properly ive tried various one's still no joy

Anybody else seen these issues ?
[Nexus 7 General] FitAmp:
I've had the ring in the middle of my first nexus 7.

It looked like it was used as a coaster and someone put a cup or something on it. (Very noticeable when screen was dirty) they will definitely replace it as they did mine.

As for loose USB, tons of devices are like this... If it works don't let it bother you too much.

You could always open it up and see if its in place okay.

Press thanks if I helped ~ Nexus7/CyanogenMod/M-Kernel
[Nexus 7 General] bftb0:
So I guess what you are saying is that even though the warranty terms have a specific exclusion for a limited number of dead/bright pixels, those terms don't apply to you, simply because you decided so.

And further, you can get the local store to collude with you in fraud because they are blissfully unaware of what the warranty terms are, or because the minimum wage clerk has no skin in the game and doesn't want to deal with peevish customers.

Good on you... I guess.
[Nexus 7 General] androidkid311:
You are joking.. You just cant be serious. The heck with how many dead pixels you have. A dead pixel is a dead pixel. End of, you return it. Fraud my ass! Asus and Google make millions. Posts like this baffle me.
[Nexus 7 General] justmiike:
LOL, exactly androidkid311, I'm not going to bother with people like that, their post does me enough justice. Firstly, misuing the term fraud (which is slander and defamation on me and the worker who served me completely disregarding their duty of care and store policy which allow returns of a SINGLE dead pixel, as well as the policy in my country for consumers regarding products sold) and then labelling individuals.

But whatever makes them happy, their character is out for all to see anyway and their ignorance is shown in spades.

All I am doing here is actually benefiting the consumer and highlighting the lack of product quality control -- so in future the likelyhood of this occuring is rare, but I guess these people are happy with defective units. Blows my mind how they attack this notion, maybe these people should receive defective units? Makes no sense, absolute joke!
[Nexus 7 General] player911:
I just ordered 30 N7s and most were flawless.

Some had a brilliant screen compared to others. The color wasn't different but rather the whites were whiter. I noticed only because I set a wallpaper with a mostly white background. Set all to full brightness. Looking at 30 at a time, seemed all were slightly different brightnesses and tone definition, mostly the same.

1 was real bad. Very yellowish tone and not bright at all.

None had screen lift. So I guess that's gone for good.

These were all 16gbs. My 32gb wasn't the best looking screen, but one of the better ones.

I can't see anyone going through more then 1 these days... And that even should be rare.