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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rippley05:
I have 2 buddies with the gs3, rooted one and about to root the other. I have had plenty of time with the gs3. Only thing I noticed right off, mybackup root wouldn't work and would freeze the phone.

As far as software, Sense is much better, it does so many little things well, but it does slow the phone down and cause lag/sluggishness. If I owned the gs3 the I'd definitely use a different launcher. Both are excellent phones and I'm happy with my choice for now.

Next year tho, if all the real development is still going towards Samsung.. I'll be going as well. I miss having people crunching out aosp, cm, MIUI roms. I miss having several pages full of themes, mods in the app section... If I have to go Samsung for that then sadly I will.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lowetax:
wth do you do with your phones ?

14 in 2 years !

interesting reading everyone's comments.

as Myn and Inc moved over to the sgs3 - that says a lot to me right there.

so i added my first sammy to my android bus to see what it's all about.

i love my Pat's King of Steaks, 'Whiz wit',

so I'll see how Samsung's touchwiz treats me and look forward to the development on each.

(btw slo-mo video on the evo lte is kinda cool and useful)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mgianni19:
I really like the HTC phones, but this lack of support we are getting AOSP is really making me angry! I know it takes time, but ****, I am bored of sense and I want some stable AOSP goodness.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] arrogantbastard:
Haha, obvious reference is obvious. Please accept my humble apologies for my drunken rant (I really should put a breathalyzer on my keyboard :o)

Anyway, my opinion still stands the the EVO is the right phone for *me*, for reasons that are important to *me*. Here's what I *should* have posted:

I knew that whatever I got, I was at the very least going to run a custom launcher and eventually ROMs, landing on CM9 or *fingers crossed* CM10. So that makes Sense vs TW a moot argument. Now, in hindsight, you could argue that the S3 is going to get better dev support. All I need though is one good ROM (CM or AOKP please!), not a bunch. Once I settled on CM7 on my last phone, I ran it for months until CM9 was ported to it.

I don't use a case (yes, it's a calculated risk I take, but that's why I give Best Buy $10/month for insurance). So that makes form factor important for me. In this case, I prefer the EVO. In my highly subjective opinion, the EVO just feels like a premium piece of hardware in the hand, whereas the S3 does not. And I don't like the white or blue choices of color. Throw in the kickstand, which, surprise!, is actually useful.

So it comes down to hardware and display. And camera, but that's really a secondary consideration and as long as it's adequate, I'm fine. In this case, both are adequate.

Hardware: pretty much a push, same SoC and all. Sure, the extra GB of RAM sounds good on paper, but given that I'll be running a de-bloated ROM anyway, the benefit is more theoretical than practical. More potential storage on the S3. Removable battery on S3 - battery is a non-issue on the EVO in my case. Radios: say what you will, but I'm seeing more than enough reports to come to the conclusion that yes, it is a weakness. Understand that individual experience may vary.

Display: Hold the two side by side and the differences are readily obvious. Which one is "better" is a matter of opinion. I prefer the EVO hands down. To my eye, it's much more accurate, bright, and text is more crisp and clear. I don't like the over saturation and the bluish tint that plagues anything predominantly white on the Sammy.

I don't come to these conclusions in a vacuum. I've done a lot of research and I've spent more than five minutes in a Sprint store with the S3. I have a couple of friends and coworkers with the S3, so I have spent some quality time with it. Yes, that's different than actually owning it, but I don't have the luxury of bouncing between phones just to try them out.

TL/DR: for reasons that are important to me, I prefer the EVO. You may find that for reasons important to you, the S3 is better. We're splitting hairs between a Ferrari and a Lamborghini here, and no one should feel slighted or short-changed going either way.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] surge89:
Ironically, with Samsung's "cheap" build I had no problems with my GSII. A lot of HTC phones always seem to need maintenance and tend to have a lot of issues even with their "quality" build. That being said, I have always liked HTC but was turned off by the Evo 3D. I can now finally get a phone that replaces my OG Evo from HTC. That being said... Evo LTE does have great build and is very light. Super Amoled isn't overrated and it is amazing. I went with Evo because it came out first. Simple as that.

Either way you'll have a kick ass phone and Samsung makes it so much easier to root but that isn't really a big deal.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chasoo:
I just found my epic 4g touch to feel too much like a toy. This phone feels like a purpose built device.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] swaze:
I'm pretty much convinced the Evo is the phone for me based on build quality, camera, screen etc. But most importantly I'm not missing out on anything by not having a gs3 which speaks for itself IMO.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kill3rmonk:
Simply because the EVO LTE came out first.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 3vo kid:
I have the evo my brother has the s3...both phones are great but it ultimately comes down to preference. I choose the evo cuz I've had every evo since the first one and they've never let me down. I love the build quality and sure sense is a crappy ui but that's where custom roms and stuff come in. There are Deff highlights from each phone that makes them unique :) that being said evo or s3 I'm pretty sure we can all agree that our phones are better than the iphone... I have no problems whatsoever walking up to my friends and saying my phone is better than theirs lol :D

Sent from my White Evo
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ericpd:
I've read that the extra ram was to give the multi-tasking space to breathe.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mak0blu:
I opted to get the EvoLTE and while i have not a single complaint about the performance of the phone i do have a huge issue with the lack of development. Seeing as the S3 has an insane amount more of the Dev community i wish now i would have waited for the S3. If a person would ask me if i think the Evo is better then the S3 i would say they are nearly on par with each other hardware/software wise. The Community just seems to have went primarily with the S3. Also to answer the op's question what made me choose the Evo over the S3...well i only got it because it was available first. Had they come out at the exact same time i would have a S3 right now.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] funcrusher:
So, you're saying, if they had come out at the same time, you'd still choose the S3, even though you wouldn't know what dev would be like for each phone at that point?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jsm927:
Thank you this is very helpful, my husband keeps suggesting the SGS3 for me was not sure why, I have my OG EVO rooted and love it. He got the new LTE and I really want it but was waiting to upgrade until I get a new job (unemployement doesnt allow me to get my toys :( and its killing me ) so I am doing all my research so I can make a decision on which. Im thinking the LTE will win. I like sense... I like the kickstand...I use my camera all the time... seems pretty simple.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
I hate to admit it but if I could I would trade my phone for the gs3.. just to give it a shot..but I could always switch back..the grass isn't always greener blah blah.. the multitasking is so unandroid on this phone its ridiculous.. and that's really my main complaint.. also this may be just my phone but my screen hasn't been as responsive as I like
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jaygo7:
Well I think I am going to go with the SGSIII. I am going to say though, I've done my research and played with both phones to honestly say the EVOLTE is a better phone. However the only thing making me want to jump ship from HTC (I own an OG EVO and had the Hero) is longevity. The way HTC has crapped on the dev community is obsurd, and for those who don't root their phones and flash roms the HTC updates just don't roll out fast enough, or sometimes not at all. By the time HTC rolls out updates, there is a new version of android and you can't help but feel left behind with HTC.

Now I can't really compare these experiences with Samsung, but I am willing to get this phone because I see it lasting me longer than the EVO from a power user perspective. Maybe I am making the wrong choice, but HTC pushed me in that direction.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
Now u sound like freeza with the whole power user lol..but he's a dev so he may very well be
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] coffeehandle:
I can see that. There is a lot of great people here though. Who ever says sgs3 has this huge development over the evo is kinda exaggerated. But if the s3 makes you happy. Go for it. No harm done here
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jaygo7:
Only reason I say that is from a software standpoint, I think the phone would make me much happier in that perspective since I enjoy flashing roms, writing code, etc.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 2strokenut:
What Freeza has expressed is something I've felt in the last few weeks and many others that I know that work with phones. Its hard to not get attached to a manufacture that has treated you right for so long, how many of us here are OG evo owners? Coming from Apple that phone made me a die hard HTC guy and exceeded all my expectations, but only with the help of the many hard working, brilliant developers we all know and love. What made the Evo so good wasn't necessarily HTC but those who were willing to put in time and effort to make it better. Without them, well, we would be on other devices for sure. What HTC needs to do is follow samsungs lead and stop putting up barriers to rooting and let us do what we want with our phones. What a mess that stupid 1.50 bootloader issue was on the 3D, how many people got turned off of that phone and rooting because of that? If HTC continues down this road, more and more developers are going to jump ship, and that's not good. My .02 cents on that issue.

Now that's out of the way, I think this may be one of the few times, if not the first time we have had 2 devices from 2 manufactures come so close in performance, speed, build quality that picking either one would exceed all our expectations. I've had my LTE for about a month now and have a few friends with the s3 so I think I can form a good comparo between the two. My only reservation with Samsung is over the last few years working in repair shops helping people with phones is that the phones that always seemed to have the most problems were the samsungs. Gps issues almost every time, poor reception, plasticy cheap feel, no updates, always a problem. HTCs had their issues with ports breaking and dust under screens but for the most part they worked good and people liked them. The exception was the 3D, what a piece of crap, HTC should be embarrassed for releasing that phone. I know it turned a lot of people off of HTC.

But the LTE is something different. Everyone who looks at the LTE screen is in awe, every time, you just have to give it up to HTC for going all out with it. The S3 is incredible in its own right but put it up next to the Evos and you see how much sharper it is on the Evo. The colors are great on the S3 and yes the blacks are deeper but looking at blacks isn't really on the top of my list of favorite things to look at on my screen, lol. I love the kickstand, and the dedicated camera button was the only thing I liked about my E3D. Camera photo quality is a toss up. Low light is noticeably better, but overall it comes down to the person taking the picture. The non-removable battery was almost a deal killer for me till I realized I never used my spare batteries for my og evo, ever. I had them, but never used them. Still, +1 for the s3 on that. For me the Evo comes out on top. My friends who switched from the iPhone will never notice the multitasking issues, ever, as will the majority of people coming from older phones.

We all should be proud Android has come this far, really a HUGE leap from just 6 months ago. I'm truly amazed by both phones and can't wait to see what the devs can do.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bonzaicyclewerx:
I originally had the OG Evo. Traded up for the S3. had it for 2 days, great battery life, nice phone overall but I felt like I was cheating on my beloved HTC. Traded it in for the EVO LTE and am very happy I did, great support from the community, great camera. Never was a Samsung fan, but I think they did the universal design right this time, which is why I originally got the S3. The HTC just feels so much better, much more well built as well. It just feels right.:D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
This has turned into a pretty good thread. I mess with the s3 at work and there are def things I like about it. I prefer the evo tho for many of the reasons already stated.

I will say this. My lte has slipped out of my pocket a few times and hit concrete and survived with a few scratches where as my sous chef did the same, a two foot drop and cracked his screen.

Poor bastard.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
1) thanks for the well constructed, thought out, and unbiased report/info

2)DAMN, we lost freeza. :(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] smalldice:
If I don't get ICS in the next couple of weeks or next month on my galaxy tab 10.1 I will be leaving Samsung forever. It has take them forever to release this damn update and it makes me feel that they don't care about older devices. IMO Samsung sucks at updating devices period.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ProcessorHog:
I got the EVO LTE because it:

1. Was released first

2. It was black and rectangular

3. It did not have a strange looking bumpy unproportionally large physical home button

4. It had a kickstand.

I'm not a phone dev, but I do a lot of ROM flashing and such. Even with HTC's negatives (locked bootloaders - people have to find a loophole to root/unlock, condescending attitude towards the dev community), I chose the EVO because I just could not stand to look at a white or blue phone which was curvy every time I had to do something on the phone.

If Samsung had a rectangular, flat-ish black phone with the same specs, I'd have picked it over the Evo (even if it did not have a kickstand).

Every one of my phones have been HTC phones since the Cingular 2125 (remember that? :) ) but I was fed up with HTC's attitude towards customers/devs since 2008/9 (tytn2 graphics driver scandal, another ancient history) and the locked bootloader BS of more recent times. The original Evo was almost a masterpiece at the time and I had to get that, and the other counterparts were plagued with problems. So this time I was looking for a good reason to switch but to me, Samsung's offering was not aesthetically pleasing and just not good enough.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
I'm with ls on that and I know I couldn't have said it any better about the two brands. Also I just want to add to the Samsung thing, the et4g with the ics update has the most annoying thing when you are in a call it will ring when you get a text instead of a ding. Lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] El Nivek:
This was my reasoning to get the S3. We have a very stable CM10 up while the EVO LTE still only has a CM9 port. I prefer the EVO LTE, but with the S3 there would be no chance the EVO would ever reach the massive developer base of the OG EVO

Sent from my iPhone
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fachadick:
No regrets, and my reasons are simple. I prefer sense over touchwiz, and I use my phone mostly for reading (aldiko). Some people may not notice the pentile, but when you look at text as much as I do, it starts to drive you crazy.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] donatom3:
After owning the Nexus 7 one thing that worries me about the GS3 is the home button. To use Google now you hold down home and slide up on the screen. That doesn't seem that it will feel as natural on the GS3 as the Evo. I've worked with both though and own the Evo. I will say this the GS3 though it's plastic feels solid and the tapered body makes it feel slimmer than it is. As far as the screen the gs3 is definitely better than its other pentile counterparts, but I can definitely see the grid on white text.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bjg020683:
Guys let's be serious here for one sec. The Sg3 by far is the speedier of the two. Build quality hands down goes to the evo. But honestly why are we even having this topic. The Sg3 and the evo is a fail. Why not combine the both and put a little vanilla in it. The real argument is the iPhone better than both of these phones. For argument sake yes and no. Where android falls short apple gains power. Android could be so much better if they were unified. We will never be a threat to apple until we are unified. They will always be laughing on there way to the bank. Sense, touchwiz, blur, and etc is killing android. We need one show stopper to kill apple off. Can you imagine going to a conference and seeing HTc, Motorolla, Samsung, And Google all talking about one awesome phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] donatom3:
Samsung sold about twice as many phones last quarter than Apple did. I wouldn't worry that much about the Apple/Android thing. People are having this argument because the GS3 and Ego are two Android phones people want to buy and they want to make sure they get the right one if they're going to be stuck with them for 2 years.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] arrogantbastard:
Wrong.

Same chipset. Numerous reviews and benchmarks have the EVO and GS3 practically even. As they should be.

What did you even base that statement on?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bjg020683:
Ask yourself this question. Do you think android is one phone from killing the competition or do you think apple is. Imagine what android lacks and what apple lacks.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Yeah not sure where you're getting your facts on apple and market share. The s3 is destroying the iPhone in sales currently.

I don't want unification. I want choice. Android offers numerous choices.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
@ liquid solstice. Great post
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bjg020683:
Okay me and you have the same shoes on and I'm faster. What's your point with the chipset. The sg3 is faster by far. I don't care about benchmarks I have both phones
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bjg020683:
The one thing that apple lacks that android has is multitasking. The one thing that apple's has that android lacks is one manufacturer. I do believe in choice don't get me wrong. But can one time out of a year will android come together and make one awesome phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] arrogantbastard:
That's a terrible analogy and completely misses the point. Show me some data and we can have an intelligent fact-based conversation. Otherwise you are only passing off your opinion as fact.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
Totally agree..LS is a smart guy.. I think that's why some ppl take offense to his ways of shedding some facts among the scattered bs
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
No one ever said he wasn't smart lol some of his posts have been rude in the past but that one was honest to the point and no devils advocate lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Yes he will never be accused of being unintelligent.

I think there Is enough data out there to back up the claim that 2gs of ram is not needed and was added to the s3 as more of a marketing tool
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
One manufacturer is never good. The pure android experience is supposed to.be the nexus which in my opinion Verizon should never ever be able to pollute again.

And I like options such as sense.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bjg020683:
I agree one manufacturer would suck. I do believe all manufacturers coming together once a year shouldn't be out of the question. Though
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
I agree with the 3 posts above lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
Even on a desktop, past a certain amount, more RAM will not "speed up" a computer. It just means you can use more intensive applications at once. Many people feel they need 8 GB of RAM but the truth is, you don't actually need all that much RAM unless you have a specific purpose. (Same deal with a Core i5 vs an i7; unless you genuinely require the hyperthreading and the higher clock speed for a specific purpose, it will not "speed Windows up" in any way compared to the i5).

As I said before, ARM-based applications simply don't require that much memory, and while it's nice to have 2 GB of RAM, it is not logical or needed, and if that's one of the reasons for the rather inflated price tag, I know that I would be ticked.

I agree. This "team up and make the best phone" mentality is a pipe dream to be put in the most polite terms. It would be a terrible idea in the long run and it completely ignores an aspect that most Android users either fail to see or don't want to see (not attempting to insult anyone directly or indirectly); just as the Apple business model they condemn so much is to maximize profits, Samsung, HTC, LG, etc are not any different. They don't want Android to succeed, they want their products to succeed. They gain nothing by joining forces.

While it might be nice to see, I think the benefit of Android lies within the competition of it. Both against Apple and within its own manufacturers. I love how the Galaxy series pushes HTC, and I love how the One-X series pushes the Galaxy. Ultimately, we benefit from that rivalry, because Samsung and HTC have different ideas on what a phone should be like. If they had the same idea and that idea was just to be "better than Apple", what choice would we have?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
What we are seeing is an amazing tech revolution really still in its infancy.

This path is going to be an amazing one and i believe essentially part of our evolution.

And the source is competing, innovative companies offering a different experience. No one can stop this short of society breaking down. This isn't google vs Apple in the long run at all. Innovation will win this regardless of patent litigation. It's like trying to stop the tide from coming in.

Android is doing just fine.