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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Phutt89:
I got better reception with my og evo I think, data connection didnt drop off like it does with this phone.

Again dont get me wrong, I'm.obsessed with this phone, but I'm not a dev, so I'm waiting, hoping, and praying that itbgets the same support the og evo is STILL gettingml.

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
I'll echo this.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mswlogo:
I still have my old EVO 4G. I kept it for development.

It's so slow compared to EVO 3D or EVO 4G LTE.

It's RAM challenged.

And the screen on EVO 4G LTE is bigger and much better.

Better on battery and thinner in your pocket.

You can pretty much hack anything now on EVO 3D or EVO 4G LTE.

I also like the Spit and Polish ICS has which I would not run on EVO 4G.

I could have gone an extra year with EVO 4G or EVO 3D. But not an extra 2 Years (on top of it's 1 year cycle).

It's everyones own choice of how often they want incremental improvements.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] YoungCorruptionV2.0:
I had the EVO shift but I heard the og EVO couldn't oc over 1.2 GHz... Which to me is bad. I could oc to 2 GHz with little overheating and yeah after 2 years you'll have unlimited roms but so will this phone. Op needs to understand this phone is still new

Sent from my EVO using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Phutt89:
I understand its new, read the other posts, its just me ranting about being inpatient, going from everything to nothing its feels like in terms of custom roms and development. :thumbup:

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
I know, I wish the dev scene was like for the OG Evo, but I'm sure part of the issue is htcs fault. And if we don't know how to do it, we wait.

Also, kind of insignificant, but I gotta mention. On the OG Evo, I tried to use the Google body app, and you could barely turn the character, it just sputtered and hung. Had to put it on my LTE yesterday to see where kidneys were, and on the LTE, you touch the character and she pirouettes like a ballerina, spins and spins. I was surprised and impressed. Huge improvement in HWA , and CPU.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bballer71418:
Are some people seriously comparing this to the og EVO? Lmao

That phone is over 2 years old. There is really no comparison. I owned an og EVO, and must say that phone is the reason why I now own an android phone and 2 android tablets. It got me addicted to android and everything that comes with it. I doubt any one phone will have the dev support like that phone did. It paved the way for modern day superphones. But come on now guys, there is no comparison when it comes to hardware. The EVO LTE in my opinion has the best hardware out right now. It will be interesting to find out if Sammys decision to add an extra gig of ram to the S3 will have any significant meaning in the future, but the way I see it, I will already have a new phone so I'm not to worried.

It is sad to see sprint using so many resources on the iPhone when the og EVO was their first huge hit of a phone. Had they poured more resources into the EVO lineup maybe today's phone would still be the phone of 2 years ago in terms of popularity.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KEYofR:
That's rather the point. A 2 year old phone should not work better than a new one.

We all know the hardware specs are better, but but so what? This phone is like a million dollar sports car with 1000hp engine that can go 200mph, but one of the wheels falls off every few miles, one window doesn't go down, pulls to the right, stereo doesn't work, turbo is installed but factory disabled. It sure has a lot of cool stuff in it, and it sure looks cool in the driveway, but my 1992 Miata works better, and gets me all the way to work, every day, hot or cold, or all the way across the country, with zero problems.

You are right to laugh. It is very laughable that og evo owners upgrade to this phone, and miss their 2 year old evos, that actually _worked_.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
I have 0 issues with the software of this phone. Sorry man.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] joshuaw84:
This post seems quite unfair, if you are having as many issues you are with this fictional car you speak of, I would say there may be some user error.

To each their own though, this phone has pretty much replaced my tablet and if it weren't for demonoid I really wouldn't use my laptop anymore either.

Good luck with your phone partner.

sent from my LTEvo
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] poison1916:
some people still use windows XP over windows 7, even though windows 7 is built on a rewrite of XP.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] starplaya93:
You guys are comparing a device that was at the end of its life to a device that is still in its infancy...I mean come on, it's all common sense. We have the newer device with less development but better hardware and the OG Evo has the much older device with worse hardware and better development...I guess all of you are new to technology so i'll let you in on a little secret...that's how it's ALWAYS going to be.

When the next evo comes out the devlopment for the LTE will be excellent and the development for the new one will be really weak for the first couple months...Rinse and repeat.

You guys need to stop complaining and look at things from a more logical perspective.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ZzHacks:
Hehe with that decks reloaded rom make a comparison of SPEED>=)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] edub186:
This is pure logic fail. People are really comparing the development of a new phone to one that's been out for over 2 years. I don't know if I should find this funny or worry about the logic of some people.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Phutt89:
Whats not logical about me missing the support the evo 4g got and hoping the lte get the same?

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] edub186:
What's not logical, is that some of you guys are ranting about a lack of dev support for a new phone that don't even have all its sources released to the public yet.

If you feel that way how about you cook up your own rom and stop being impatient. Don't knock the new phone because of it.

It's like having a 2 year old child and a newborn. The 2 year old can walk and the newborn can't so your upset at the baby. Get over it and wait.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
Some people need to take the nostalgia goggles off. I owned the OG EVO until last Christmas when I upgraded to the 3D. When it first came out, development wasn't much better than what this phone has right now.

Really, the only thing we are truly missing in comparison to what was big for the OG EVO is Myn's Warm ROM, which was the one of the best custom Sense based ROMs I have ever used, due to it's stellar theme. Other than that, the current lack of fully working AOSP is the only other real difference in development. And that's being worked on fervently by Deck and co.

I think everyone needs to just chill out and take a step back and think rationally. This phone is, without rooting, one of the best on the market. It has the hardware that everyone wants, and it has very few flaws. That is the reason you should purchase a device. The development is just nice on the side. If you buy phones solely for the development scene, you should buy a Nexus.

I'll close out with this: this phone and the OG aren't that different from each other in essense. Both represent flagship phones with a large user base. The difference is that you are all comparing a phone at the end of its life cycle to a phone just beginning its cycle and assuming that the new phone should have the same activity as the old one. News flash: not everyone has this phone yet that will get it. As time goes on we will get more developers, be it people who are new to this phone or those who are new to development.

Calm down a bit and think with your mind.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Phutt89:
Again, I've said it multiple times now, I know the phone is new, this was just saying what I'm missing from my og evo and what I'm hoping will happen to the lte, obviously there will be flaws and development is going to be slow. I'm having withdrawals from having everything, to having not so much. Its like a billionaire being stripped of all his money and being paid 500 a week, it takes some getting used to.

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] knightwolf123:
My 2¢

Evo phones are like a corvette...

Do you want...

436hp - OG EVO

505hp - EVO 3D

600hp - LTE VO

Either way, it will do pretty much what ever you want after you harness the power.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
No matter how many times you say it, you're still being too demanding and irrational.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pohboy:
I agree with OP, but not so much in that I'm disappointed with the dev stuff currently available for the LTE EVO. I think it's just more that the LTE EVO doesn't seem like a marked improvement over the OG EVO.

I mean, just think back to when you first activated your OG EVO - most likely it was LIGHT YEARS ahead of what you were running around with before (it was for me anyway - farewell, WinMo Treo Pro). Then think back to the first time you rooted and flashed CM6 or 7, or Decks, or whatever - even more of a quantum leap right? It was like a brand new phone :)

With the LTE, I guess I'm just disappointed in the first experience - yeah specs are awesome, camera is spectacular, and the screen is oh-so-pretty. But pulling the search and menu buttons? USB on the side? (I'm willing to listen to someone rationalize either of those decisions, because I'm struggling to :)

Here's to hoping that second experience (with CM9 or some other rock-solid AOSP ROM) makes up for it :)

jm
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Phutt89:
How is that being too demanding, in not demanding anything, all in saying is going from 100 percent support to 10 is a challenge. Going from no bugs to data connection failure 10 times a day sucks. And you can disagree with that, because it does, howbisbthat irrational? It blows. My og evo didnt have the best service in the world, but again it was better than what I'm getting with this, I've tried different prls everything, I force roam 100 percent of the time, I get it bugs will be worked out in due time, I didn't think i needed to spell that out for you, bugs always get worked out. But I'm not just talking about devs here, why would htc put out a phone that has better 1x speeds when roaming, than 3g when on sprint. I dont live in the backwoods I'm just south of boston, in fact I've been working in roslindale this whole week and my service is so terrible I can shut force roam off and it will roam automatically. And in case you don't know how far roslindale is from boston, a supposed 4g supported city, its a 15 minute walk, 4 minute drive depending on traffic.

And its not only that, yes the camera is flipping sweet, in obsessed with it, but people are having focusing problems, the screen is the bees knees, but its got glitches and studders for people. I've read of cases so far on this forum where data connection stops all together and sprint is blaming the phone owners for using bad roms but still giving them replacement phones, its not the roms, if it was why would they still be replacing the phones, the devs do all they can to fix any glitch. People are not receiving wifi connections with the phone sitting right on their routers, wtf is that? I get it the phone is new its been said a 1000 times, even by me in the op, if you'd stop being a **** and stop trolling, you'd read the part where I simply asked what do you miss from your of evo or 3d, and what are you looking forward to.

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Phutt89:
This whole post was about what I missed from my og evo, and how with all the bugs that come with a new phone, it made me realize how good I had it. Get over yourself and answer the damn question, if not dont comment, don't troll, don't ruin xda, I've been following this site for about 2 years now and never made an account because of the dickheads like you, telling people they are too demanding, they're irrational, when infact my original post didnt demand anything, and wasnt irrational at all. Say what 20 other people have already tried to say expecially when I've explained it to 20 other people already doesn't make you cool and it doesn't make you look intelligent, it makes you look like a trolling db. Especially when you tell me no matter how many times I say it....... Well I have to keep saying it because of rtards like you, I'm not going to tell you to get out of your mother's basement cause I dont know you, but what's so hard about reading the op with an open mind, all the way through, without such a negative view, so you dont come off looking like a pompous a hole telling someone they're dad wrong?

Good day to you sir

Sent from my EVO 4g LTE using Force Roam bc I can't seem to get more than 1 bar on 3g
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firmbiz94:
If it makes u feel any better I understand exactly how you feel ..with the og everything was new and it was *the* device to own.. we all got spoiled.. hopefully in a little time we will have the the type of dev action we did with that phone.. but being the top dog phone there is nothing to port that's better or newer besides aosp jb.. I guess we have to wait for our phone to get older lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
Was all that really necessary?

Personally, I feel lamenting about the development compared to the OG Evo is irrational, but that's not in any way an attack on your character. I just know that the best things come to those who wait. If you're simply saying you're excited to see what is coming for our device (and perhaps a bit excitedley impatient) I'm with you on that, but this phone has literally been out for what, 1 or two months now?

The feeling of "demanding" that Sora might be trying to communicate probably comes from how he feels you be essentially saying (even though you're not, it's what it sounds like) "come on devs, hurry up and start picking up the pace". Again, I'm aware that that's not your intention, I think these types of threads just tend to come off that way.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
I thought about giving you my response. I had something typed up already. But you know what? It's not worth it. Your horribly worded, horrendously spelled, childish, insult ridden post just proves to me that you're not someone I should take seriously.

You know what I think you should do? Get rid of this phone and activate your precious old Evo 4G, so you can have pretty much all of the same things that we do here, but on an older phone that actually needs those things to be usable on a daily basis.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] officiallytook:
All I can say is tha I'm still on the OG right now, and upgrading before months end, and knowing that knowledge and power thats bottled up in the OG took time and patients...so with that said I'll be gracefully waiting with the LTE in hand amazed with the future development and its potential... just saying

Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] edub186:
Now you're blaming the phone for it's bad data speeds and connections. Even the cave man under the rock, knew about Sprint, doing a major overhaul, on there network towers nationwide. I get pissed at that too, but I know this phone, is built for the new lte upgraded towers.

Every phone is going threw this besides the people using wimax.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Phutt89:
Luke I said, reasons why I miss my evo 4g, you know the one that had winmax?

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] edub186:
Bro, go look at your first few post and tell me where you stated anything about data connection problems. I know I'm not tripping.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rocklee99:
I believe you're correct, in fact the only reason I'm rooted is for the small things I can add on to what is already way better than my old evo and such
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rocklee99:
I agree
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KEYofR:
It's not just about the og evo.

When I got my Sprint Samsung sph-i300 in 2001, the cell phone and data connection (same thing way back then) worked perfectly out of the box day one.

When I got my Sprint Palm Treo 600, the phone and data connections worked perfectly out of the box day one.

Sprint Palm Treo 650 worked

Sprint Palm Treo 700p worked

Sprint Palm Pre worked (had hardware half-bakery problems which we now know were because they were out of time & money and had to ship or die anyways, but even so the key functions all worked reliably day one.)

Sprint EVO 4G worked. The core functions worked. It was buggier than all the previous on day one, but even so there was no phone and wifi crap-outs like the ltevo has. I'm not talking about demanding devs here having 2 years to make great roms. I tried many roms but most of the non-stock roms actually had gps and camcorder and wimax and other bugs so mostly I actually used a rooted stripped stock rom and everything "just worked"

No, it is not unreasonable at all to be handed something this buggy, especially when it is the basic basic core functions of cell phone and wifi, and be insensed that you paid $400 and gave up a working phone (that you paid $600 for) for this.

Newness is no excuse. HTC is fully capable of testing and making sure the key parts are robust before shipping the device to paying customers. Everyone else does it, or used to, some still do. They didn't say "hey buy this early adopter pre-release developer tester phone, some or all of the functions may not work because it's a prototype". No, they sold it as a finished product. The only function not working being the LTE, and even that because of Sprints end not because of the phone.

Every time I have the wifi on, and then drive away from that access point, if I don't remember to manually turn the wifi off, it will just keep on thinking it has a net connection but no traffic actually goes, it won't switch to 3g. That has screwed up things like trying to use the google wallet, where I'm at a check out with a line of people behind me, I can't be stopping to debug my phone right then to solve the mystery of why I did all the right dances and waved the dead chicken the same way as last time when it worked, but this time it's not working...no damn jam it in the pocket and pay the normal way, apologize to the guy behind me and then go spend 15 minutes in the car trying to intuit what might have been the problem, hey I just noticed the wifi thinks it's still connected to the cafe 30 miles away...sure enough turn that off and now wallet shows the card balance and sure enough go back in and buy a drink and it works. That is just crap.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Phutt89:
^winner

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] yt1486:
I find beauty :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JMQUINT00:
How can the phone be a hot spot for free without root? And do the tethers work wired?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Today development EXPLODED for this device. Well, I should say in the last 36 hrs.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] japugh0578:
Okay so I was able to unlock my boot loader, flash a custom recovery, downgrade and unlock hboot via unrevoked method acquire root and super user from the latest OTA.

The ONLY problem I'm having is I cannot disable auto rotation in cm7 and cm9. I can select/Deselect the option but it doesn't work. Auto rotation still happens and drains my battery. Anyone have any ideas?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XenonV:
try reflashing the rom, or try a different rom
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavman42:
Go to CyanogenMod settings, under display setting uncheck the accelerometer rotations.:laugh:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] japugh0578:
This does not work. The option plainly says that rotation is disabled but when I tilt my phone it still rotates.

I prefer AOSP roms, but I suppose I need to try a stock sense rom to see if it will work.

Update: still having issues with this. Cannot disable auto rotate in aosp roms. Destroys my battery life.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] japugh0578:
I've noticed that sense roms allow me to disable but not aosp roms :/
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WhiteiceDMSTech:
Posting this in the Q/A since I have a "Q"uestion.

I am hoping to expect to receive my 16gig this week since I ordered on July 13th.

So I have a question. Before I go and unlock/root is there any steps I need to take prior to doing so?

For example, there was something with the original EVO 4g where we had to back up the original, if I am not mistaken, so we would retain the 4g keys in case anything got borked.

So, not sure if there is something I need to do before I go ahead and unlock/root my Nexus when it comes in.

And, if there is any suggestions/advice on which ROM to install once I unlock/root?

Thinking I am gonna go the JR5/Paulobrien route since it seems to be the most favorable and also seems to have the built in flash support.

One other thing.

In regards to memory issues. I plan on having many apps/games installed. Got my stand ordered and plan to hook up my PS3 controller for gaming on the stand when I can. What is the most suggested route for extra memory at this point? I see comments about OTG and what not. Do I go flash drive, do I go Micro or SD card?

I appreciate any help/advice/suggestions to get me pointed in the right direction in preparing for my Nexus 7,

Whiteice
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raggatokan:
I am waiting for my device too. I will buy the cheapest but fast enough 64gb stick available.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevecaboose:
I would recommend that you have your device updated to the very latest release of android (4.1.1). Also make sure you have Android SDK installed with adb installed.

As far as roms go, I would wait till cm10 becomes available for the nexus 7. If you play around with the stock rom, it is really good. Its very smooth and I have not had any lag problems what so ever. I am very happy with the stock rom.

I have not tried this because I do not have the right cable, but the route that I would go with the extra storage is an otg cable that can connect to a flash drive or small external hard drive. These will have a lot more room than a typical sd card. You are probably not going to have to worry about storage if you are getting the 16gig model. I have the 16gb model and I am only half full of using all my space. But I can see where it would be cool to just load up a bunch of blu ray movies on an external hard drive and watch off that. Please pm me if you have any more questions.

Yes, I do have a nexus 7 and it is both unlocked and rooted :)
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thankyousam:
I don't think the type of storage media matters. I assume you'd need a USB hub to allow the PS3 controller and storage media to plug in to your N7. A flash drive will plug straight into the OTG cable/USB hub, otherwise a card would need a reader. The main thing will be access speeds for reads and writes, so buy the media with the highest speeds vs cost your budget allows.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] 150pilot:
I wanted an adapter that plugged in to the micro USB port with OTG capability & just had a microSD slot on the other end. However, I couldn't find one, so I set out to make one. I took an micro USB to USB adapter and modified it to be OTG capable and then plugged in the smallest USB microSD adapter I could find. Now I have a nice little adapter that I can plug in without having it flopping around like a tail on the end of a cable. Just thought I'd share my project.

I used information from this page to hook up the wiring correctly:

http://beyondthekeeboard.wordpress....-android-pt-2-making-your-own-usb-host-cable/
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ExploreMN:
Nice job!
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Asovse1:
Hmm, this looks like it will go on my rainy day project list. Thanks!

Are you by any chance running CyanogenMod if you were taking pictures with a phone?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] V8vroom:
Great work, I'm going to have to try this.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] E_man5112:
For those that want a little less of a project

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-M...Accessories&hash=item2a1ff4f02c#ht_500wt_1057

Was in another thread on here.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] 150pilot:
No, not CMx.