[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
That is unfair circle reasoning that has no logical basis. You just don't get it; have 1.25 GB of free RAM is no more beneficial than having .25 GB of free RAM. Free RAM != more speed. If you manually change the minfree settings to be far less aggressive, the experience is still just fine. RAM does not play any vital role in the multitasking issues of Sense. They didn't do the aggressive management because the phone "couldn't handle it", they did it because they wanted the smoothest and least janky UI possible, and they wanted things to be completely out of the memory and not using CPU cycles.

"Terrible limitations"? You mean the standard RAM size that high end phones have had for years now and have done just fine with? High end phones such as the Galaxy S2? You don't know that HTC "knew" 1 GB was just cutting it. You simply believe that magically having more RAM is suddenly more beneficial and your reasoning is rather weak. You make it sound like they purposefully made "Sense 4 suffer", when you very much know that is not a fair assessment.

That's wonderful if that's where they are headed. Right now, it is an absolute waste of flash memory, and you are very much aware of it, you are just trying to convince yourself after the fact. 2 GB of RAM on a phone is as useless as 8 GB of RAM on a video game console. It just doesn't work that way.

Indeed, I am living in the past because Google (who designs this lovely operating system) gave the Nexus 7 (supposed to be an extremely powerful device) just 1 GB of RAM. Come on now, I'm fine with you defending your purchase, but vague claims of "moving with the times" don't really cut it when the architects of the core OS you use don't think Android needs more than 1 GB of RAM.

You mean Samsung decided to give you something that is of absolutely zero use to you right now, and when you replace your phone next year (as you know you will) it won't matter how future-proofed you think you are.

Evolution of technology is fine. Bringing it to the market before it has a use and then charging more for it is not. Sony suffered painfully by including a Blu-Ray player into their PS3 before it had become useful, and they had to invest quite a lot of money into getting the major movie companies to suddenly turn around and surprise-ditch HD-DVD. Meanwhile, the PS3 was $200-$250 more expensive than its competitors and that was to get a feature out that wasn't useful because it wasn't needed at the time.

Why would a certain Samsung user feel the need to come into the Evo LTE forum and brag about Samsung devices and "terrible" HTC build quality when they very well know that they haven't come close to using their 2 GB of RAM, much less 1 GB of it? Do you see what I did there? You are getting more and more aggressive and I feel less and less inclined to discuss anything with you, because if your attention was to before attempt to explain the benefits of extra RAM, you're now just being obnoxious.

When HTC decides to add more RAM into their next flagship phone, it will be because Android will actually require it by then. When I say you don't need more RAM right now, that's all that it means. It does not mean you should extrapolate and assume that I won't welcome more RAM. I have an Ivy Bridge processor right now, and it's perfectly fine because currently, Windows doesn't need anything more. That doesn't mean that when Ivy Bridge becomes whatever "Bridge" next that I won't be excited about it.

You aren't even consistent with your own argument; first you decide that HTC felt 1 GB wasn't enough (ignoring the fact that Google felt it was), then you decided that HTC used aggressive memory management to cancel out the "terribly small amount of RAM", and now you're saying HTC users are all dumb for assuming that having 2 GB of RAM is useless even though in its current form, 2 GB is useless on a mobile device, and then you extrapolate and decide that because we currently think 2 GB is useless to have that when the next HTC phone comes with 2 GB we'll all suddenly celebrate like hypocrites. You've made dozens of assumptions but have yet to properly explain to me how you benefit in any way from 2 GB of RAM.

The truth is you're not benefiting from 2 GB of RAM because you have better multitasking. The only reason you have better multitasking is because you don't aggressive memory management (regardless of your ideas about why that's the case)

Think about it. If we didn't have aggressive memory management, we'd be able to multi-task at the exact same level.

A) Your hypothetical situation is completely irrational and is a complete fallacy of logic. Obviously, if given the option in the HTC device, and such a small discrepancy in price, we would take it. But we don't have the choice, and we don't feel bad about it, because the fact of the matter is regardless of whether or not you have it, you don't need it. Why is this such a difficult concept to grasp?

For the last time, 2 GB of RAM would not have eliminated any sort of aggressive multitasking. Eliminating the aggressive multitasking is the only thing that will eliminate the aggressive multitasking. Do you know what I have as proof, since you refuse to explain to me how you benefit from 2 GB? The Evo 3D running a Sense 4 ROM. It had absolutely no problem coping with it, and it did not have any memory management issues whatsoever. Take a wild guess how much RAM that device has.

B) I can no longer debate this with you. You've turned from logical to illogical to condescending, accusatory, and insulting. You are consistently unable to prove to me that 2 GB of RAM is currently useful, continue to flip-flop between "Sense 4 is coded that way" and "but 2 GB of RAM would solve it", and worse, you assume that I think 2 GB of RAM is useless because I am somehow biased against Samsung.

When you're ready to talk to me in a mature way without all the condescending notions (as I have not attempted to insult or offend you in any way except for being critical of your ideas), please let me know. Otherwise, by all means, please do continue to assume all HTC users are just blind fans that are stuck in the past and biased against Samsung. Just, if I may ask kindly, please do so in the GS3 forums, not here. Thanks.