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[Thunderbolt General] mellerad:
Probably hang on to the TBolt through the holiday season to see all the new devices headed our way, maybe longer if the last few devs continue work on fixing bugs in ICS and possibly porting JB to the old girl.
[Thunderbolt General] geoff5093:
Same here, but I'm debating returning the MAXX HD.
[Thunderbolt General] recDNA:
VZW offered me $40 for my Tbolt and its in really good shape. I'm afraid I'd be lucky to get $100 on Ebay though. I also worry about returns. If the buyer has never used a Tbolt he will quickly learn its foibles and may well be disappointed even though my tbolt is in great condition.
[Thunderbolt General] cowisland:
Because of the camera? I am thinking of getting it...
[Thunderbolt General] baronmxc:
I will be getting the HTC J Butterfly (Verizon might name it Droid DNA) its perfect timing too as my early upgrade will be around the time this thing drops. This is the HTC phablet some people have been talking about.
[Thunderbolt General] geoff5093:
Well, I'm back on the Thunderbolt. I've upgraded to a GS3 and MAXX HD, and both of them I ended up returning. The GS3 I returned because it had poor battery life (compared to my TB w/ extended battery), and it felt cheap. It wasn't worth the $600 I paid. The day after the MAXX HD came out I bought that, used it for a week but ended up returning it also, mainly because the camera was horrible and it was uncomfortable and difficult to hold. The hard, straight edges of the phone was uncomfortable to hold for an extended period of time, and I noticed because it wasn't curved I could never get a good hold on the phone, I ended up having to readjust the phone much more frequently, and found that it was difficult to use the top left corner of the screen with my thumb. Not to mention that when putting the MAXX HD in your pocket, it looked like you had a deck of cards in your pocket, unlike the GS3 which is curved so it's less noticeable. And lastly, even though the MAXX HD has a 4.7" display, the onscreen buttons are fixed 99% of the time, so effectively you have the same size display as the Thunderbolt. Normally this wouldn't be a deal breaker, but you have a good 0.5-0.75" of bezel on the bottom, where capacitive buttons could have easily fit.
[Thunderbolt General] vwgtiron:
So what are your plans now? I was waiting for a Nexus 4 on Verizon. Didn't happen. My contract is up in February, but man the TBolt is getting more and more annoying. No ICS releases, work is at a standstill on new ROMS. Its just a crappy situation we are all in.
[Thunderbolt General] recDNA:
Just to give another point of view I love my razr maxx hd.
[Thunderbolt General] vwgtiron:
Hey thank you recDna. I was wondering, do you see any slow downs? How do you feel it stacks up against the GS3? thanks for the response.
[Thunderbolt General] recDNA:
Never owned a GS3. I'm not a big fan of Samsung products. I note far less lag than my Tbolt and better data reception. My 4G speeds are much faster although it doesn't translate into faster loading of web pages. I don't really understand why not. Pages don't load slower either. I would say about the same. I am using Go Launcher at the moment because I am not a fan of Motoblur. GS3 does have a much bigger development community. There is a root exploit for the HD line but the bootloader is locked so no way to install custom kernels yet.
[Thunderbolt General] geoff5093:
Right now I'm rocking Twisted's ICS build (last updated 10/26, and continues to work on it). I'm waiting for the Note 2 to come out and I'll give it a shot in-store, but most likely I'll be waiting for the HTC DNA. I always loved the One X, and I'm sure this will be even better.
[Thunderbolt General] Mysticdroid:
My contract is up in February too. I was eyeing the razr m, but I really want to lower my bill so I might just get a nexus 4 and head to prepaid when my contract is up. I'm really tired of my bolt though. Crashy, bad battery life, connectivity issues and sometimes the screen turns on while the phone is on my pocket and the processor revs up to full speed. I only notice when my leg starts sweating and the battery has died. Gotta stay strong though the nexus 4 w/ 16gb will probably drop to 299 in February.

I don't really care about LTE and unlimited data isn't worth 80 a month.
[Thunderbolt General] CarRamrod234:
I just bought a Galaxy Nexus the other day off Craigslist as I got sick and tired of my bolt. Great phone so far but the battery is atrocious, but I may be used to the bolt's extended battery as well. That and the guy before me probably charged it too much and wore down the battery.

My contract is up in March so I might wait until the 2013 Nexus and move to a prepaid plan as idt Verizon is worth the price they charge IMHO.
[Thunderbolt General] zero26800:
Agreed, I'm done with verizons crap. Yea the service is great but there is a customer satisfaction level that has gone to ****. I will be doing the same. Getting a nexus 4 and no longer signing contracts. I.prefer to have the software from Google. And prefer phones as they are intended and not as carriers feel they should work or look for that matter. Unfortunately I can't see the situation hanging as many consumers refuse to educate themselves on the circus that these carriers are running with their contracts and plans. If I'm paying for a phone I would prefer to decide the fate of its software instead of the carrier.
[Thunderbolt General] CarRamrod234:
I agree completely. The main reason I want to stick it out until 2013's Nexus is that I'm hoping this new battery technology will be out so the thought of phones with piss battery time won't even come into play. That and if I'm not due out of contract until March its only a little over half a year to wait anyway. I have noticed better signal and service on my GNex compared to my Bolt though.
[Thunderbolt General] _highway_:
anyone know how it is possible to use a family members upgrade and keep my unlimited data? i would very much like to do this, if possible, but am not really sure how this would work, or what would happen if someone tried to use my upgrade if i do not (people in my family try to do this **** all of the time).

normally i am going to try to sit on my data/tb as long as possible, and wait for newer tech to come out, and for current stuff to get cheaper, but would ultimately like a s3 and to keep my data out of contract. however, i am also looking into a tmobile prepaid plan for $30 with an unlocked gsm phone. really trying to keep my options open as time goes . . .

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dude, get the liquid smooth ics rom, it's been out for weeks . . .

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1879151
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyco2008:
Yeah just upgrade their line and reactivate their old phone... Rep may even do all that for you, just check afterwards to make sure you still ha e unlimited, I heard they can put it back on the plan within like a week or so at least.
[Thunderbolt General] swieder711:
I am on a corporate data plan and believe that we pool our plans. We are also on a 1 year refresh calendar.

My Tbolt is falling behind on the ROM releases. I have not found anything worth upgrading too.

If I could get a good ICS or JB release for my Tbolt then I might keep it longer.
[Thunderbolt General] binkies:
All depends where you are at. Traveling up and down the east coast Verizon is significantly better then the rest of the companies so I am boxed in with what to do. Have been looking to find a s3 on ebay for a reasonable rate but that just hasn't happened yet. Can always swap to Sprint but we know how that goes.
[Thunderbolt General] dontsayeta:
Sold my Thunderbolt and bought a GS3 on Ebay. Very happy with the upgrade. I liked my 'Bolt, but it certainly doesn't live up to the S3.
[Thunderbolt General] Dannar:
What new battery tech is he referring to?

Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
[Thunderbolt General] trter10:
I've got it all laid out: I will buy a $1 T-Mobile SIM activation kit today, it should arrive the 13-15th. I will order the Nexus 4 the second it is released, and wait for it to arrive. Once I have the SIM and the phone in hand I will cancel my Verizon line and transfer my number to the N4 as I activate it on the $30/Month plan.

Verizon obviously has the best network, but I have wanted a nexus for quite some time and I think dealing with T-Mobile's network is worth it.

/plan
[Thunderbolt General] Gnoop:
I'm wondering how that will work for me. My wife doesn't have a data plan at present. Upgrading would require a data plan for her phone at least temporarily. It's tempting to see if it can be done but I don't want to lose unlimited in the process as I can just easily wait and buy a Note 2 outright later if necessary.
[Thunderbolt General] zeeza57:
Was thinking about upgrading in January to the Moto Razor max HD. As although it might be a great speed demon,I don't like the gs3 in comparison to my TB. Now that the HTC DNA is due soon, I will be keeping a very close eye on it. And I will rely on you wonderful people to let me know if it's the super HTC that it sounds like. I so hate the Verizon red droid banding though.
[Thunderbolt General] binkies:
So long as you are not on a family plan you could do this. Just have to give her your old device, or roll it back to her non data phone. If you are on a family share plan however as soon as one phone on that line upgrades it wipes data for everyone. Pretty crappy
[Thunderbolt General] Gnoop:
That's what I was afraid of. We're on a family plan. Looks like I'll be buying unsubsidized. I was basically expecting this so it's not a huge deal.
[Thunderbolt General] binkies:
Do you have just the two lines on the family plan or do you have more?
[Thunderbolt General] trter10:
Well n4 may have to wait, it turns out I'm $35 short D:
[Thunderbolt General] jonah1234:
DNA DNA DNA

Sent from my CM9 HTC Thunderbolt from Tapatalk 2.4
[Thunderbolt General] baronmxc:
+1
[Thunderbolt General] dvgb173:
Got a "Preorder HTC DNA" invitation email yesterday.

Anybody jump on it yet?

Doug B.
[Thunderbolt General] Dannar:
No, because they clearly don't love me enough.

I assume there's no deal included with that e-mail?

I might bite if they were to give me a discount towards their phones because we never got ICS. You know, like moto did.

Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
[Thunderbolt General] geoff5093:
I would never pre-order a phone that I wasn't able to see and hold in person first.
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyco2008:
I think the only reason Moto did that was because a Google higher-up guy called for it. It's a very Google thing to do, more like the opposite of what HTC would do.
[Thunderbolt General] zeeza57:
Was happy to hear about the HTC DNA and was planning on upgrading to it in December from my TB. But from what I have been reading about it there will only be 16GB of internal storage, about 12GB usuable. Non expandable, no SD card slot. I have 12GB on my SD card right now and none of that is movies or videos. And from what I hear that is a pretty low figure for most. I'm wondering how everyone feels about only 16GB ???? Also any comments on battery life
[Thunderbolt General] geoff5093:
You should check out the DNA section of XDA, lots of threads on this very topic.

For me, I only use 3-4GB out of my 64GB card. I just installed Dropbox Sync which will allow me to upload files to DropBox and have it sync, so if I stat to run out of storage I can just have it delete from my phone after uploading. I don't mind pulling photos and music down from the cloud, since I still have unlimited data.
[Thunderbolt General] drumz0rz:
Switching from a thunderbolt to a DNA I can tell you the battery is MUCH better. I've been using it all morning, streaming music, etc. And I'm at about 80% after 3 hours. Screen on time is only a little over 3 hours but where this differs from my experience with the thunderbolt is that when you turn the screen off the battery sips instead of continuing to drain fast.
[Thunderbolt General] _highway_:
i guess sams club has the s3 on sale for $0.99 with a new contract . . . might be worth the sams membership price if you dont have one already . . . i am thinking about jumping on it.

i am looking to use a family members upgrade (they have a dumb phone) so i can keep my unlimited data. do i have to reactivate his phone again or something after the purchase for another $25?

edit: im on a family plan, but the data is not shared, 2 have unlimited data and 1 dumb phone with the upgrade i plan to use
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyco2008:
Yeah, you have to make like the dumb phone line is going to be a smartphone line from now on (it'll have capped data on that line), then just reactivate the dumb phone via My Verizon and change the plan as necessary for dumb phones. Capped data doesn't matter since that line is a dumb phone! Hurray!

Now activate the S3 on your line via My Verizon and make sure Unlimited Data is the selected plan if it prompts.
[Thunderbolt General] ModemJunki:
My workplace gave me a One X, replacing an ancient Blackberry. So - why carry two phones anymore...

I'll miss the storage space on the 'Bolt (One X only has about 9 GBs left, and I used to put lots of MP3s on it).

I never had any problems with Verizon service or coverage area. AT&T has been fine for the Blackberry, remains to be seen what happens to the data coverage for the One X.
[Thunderbolt General] pcar1947:
I bit the bullet and bought a S3 off of ebay . My upgrade is due in january n I didn't want to give up unlimited. I spent thankgiving weekend with my dauthters S3 n I really liked it. I looked at DNA bought internal battery n limitedd storage were deal breakers for me.

I will hold onto tbolt for backup!
[Thunderbolt General] jmm5351:
DNA looks awesome on paper and probably when you are looking at in the store but i will never buy another htc phone again. I like my thunderbolt a lot, their support sucks though, updates took wayyy to long, and also i hate sense. dont get me wrong sense looks nice and all it just works slow as crap. oh and battery life is sub par
[Thunderbolt General] geoff5093:
Completely agree, I think I'll be trading in my DNA for the Note 2.
[Thunderbolt General] buton2:
Thunderbolt is going to some guy in Mexico, I bought a galaxy nexus used...still unlimited baby!!!!!
[Thunderbolt General] Gnoop:
With the Note 2 now out, I'm having a hard time not buying it now. Though I was going to hold off until we get through the holidays. We'll see how well I manage on that.
[Thunderbolt General] Chaztera:
I just checked out Galaxy Note2 In my hand what a device... if I add a mugen Power 6400 Ma battery w/ kickstand it will be a great replacement for my bolt. But I will miss it a little... VZW is still the best.. but I can't give up my unltd. Data... at least not yet...
[Thunderbolt General] seenomoore:
solavei wireless

I have two TBs and I am thinking about trying one on solavei if i can get some help getting on their network... One of my TBs is rooted already... so that will most likely be the candidate while the other says on VZ while im testing it... does anyone have any input or advice?
[Thunderbolt General] stanlalee:
I bought a Motorola Razr M in mint condition for $360 and kept my unlimited. I could have used my upgrade and gotten it for next to nothing but didn't want to give up unlimited data. I had to root the M to hack the entitlement check in order to tether (stock tethering doesn't work for people with unlimited data without a $30 tether plan to tether my unlimited data :rolleyes: ). My TB is a paper weight right along with my Eris. Don't miss it at all! Not much in the way of ROMs due to the locked bootloader (there is CM10 and one other) but the phone is good enough that I don't care and most importantly its not the size of a ultrabook like the S3, DNA, spectrum 2 ect.
[Thunderbolt General] nonews:
I'll stick with Verizon which is expensive service vs cheap no service from other carriers. I was with ATT a long time but they offered no migration from TDM to GSM.

As for the Tbolt. IT still serves me well. ICS will keep it good for another 6months to a year before apps start needing JB+ to work.

I have unlimited now so I may just get on the used phone path so a SG3 in 6 months when the SG4 coms out maybe?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Sharaz22:
Hi today i bring you fix for root problem on some rom

(1) Download the files from this thread and put them in your phone memory

(2) Flash the rom and uncheck reboot option at the end so the phone does not reboot it stays in recovery flash the files i have provided CWM.zip and superuser3.1.1.zip then reboot your phone you should have CWM and full root now :D

CWM http://www.mediafire.com/?nm4txl531uqtapy

superuser 3.1.1 http://www.mediafire.com/?22zetxlmoh2hgj2

Don't forget to hit Thanks if this has helped you:)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sozofriend1234:
Noob question

Sorry for this question but I do not have any customization on my XS. I have copied the CWM.ZIP and ROM.ZIP files on SD card. Could you please suggest how can I flash ROM.ZIP as I do not have any custom recovery installed.

p.s. The bootlocker is also locked.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
This is a fix only for who is installing custom ROMs without custom kernel. To install recovery, search for it.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Javi22:
I have had a problem, after flashing Rom, before flashing your zips I wiped cache, and started this problem in recovery:

Can't mount CACHE/recovery/log

then after flashing your zips phone stuck reboting at logo sony, so I have to start from zero, do you know why have that ocurred, is it because wiping cache?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rumkuhgel:
Can i use this method to flash cm10 without custom kernel?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] fareeed:
No, CM10 requires the CM10 kernel, no work arounds, sorry.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rumkuhgel:
for the xperia sspeed rom for example, you can also use the stock kernel, but why can't i use it for cm10?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] fareeed:
That's a stock based rom so you can use the stock kernel. Whereas CM10 is AOSP based so many things in the Kernel are different for example Wi-Fi modules as well as other things :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dhanasekar_83:
HaiI am using Miui 2.9.14 rom in my Xperia S, I dont see CWM, I have installed rom manager and searched to install CWM but rom manager says Unsupported device ( LT26i does not have an officially supported CWN yet.)

What should I do to install CWN...?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
Back to stock, install CWM again, install MIUI and before reboot, install CWM.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] frostyroot:
I'm on the verge of buying an S3 but off a friend. I talked to a T-mo rep and she was telling me about buying a Micro-SIM because cutting down the old ones won't work with WiFi calling and I would get signal issues. I'm pretty sure the signal issues don't have anything to do with the SIM card and WiFi calling doesn't appeal to me since I always have full signal in my house. I just want to know if I need to buy a new SIM card or not. Thanks everyone!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Android_Monsters:
Should be able to get a micro SIM card for free at T-Mobile store
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] edboy21:
The phone comes with a micro sim in the box no need to buy one.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Zephyron:
This pretty much sums it up
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] ingenious247:
Obviously you guys don't read, he said he's buying it from a friend. I doubt his friend is giving him his SIM card

Sent from the current Heavy Weight champ GALAXY SIII
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] AxAtAx:
Good question if you ask me, does anyone know if it can be done?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] pytyper483:
Just got to a Tmobile store and ask for a micro sim. THey have them for free, or pm me and I'll send you one.

Then once you have the phone you can either call or go to the store and have them switch your line over to the new sim. If you call, just don't use the phone you are switching the sim from as it will drop the call once they enter the new sim card for your line.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] shehade08:
Sim cards are usually free at T-Mobile I heard cutting down old sim cards will give you problems but not exactly sure what.

Just go to the store and ask for a new sim card and they can transfer everything over for you.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] dcmtnbkr:
When you go to the tmo store, make sure the card they give you is one that is capable of wifi calling. None of them in my area have the ones that are, you might have to get it from customer service.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] sn0warmy:
I ran into this issue as well. I just figured the SIM from my Galaxy nexus would work with the S3 I purchased through Wirefly.com but it was too big (obviously). As others mentioned, I just went up to the local T-Mobile store and asked for a micro sim card to use with my new phone. They activated one and gave it to me all within 2 minutes of entering the store, free of charge.

I would laugh if T-Mobile tried to charge me for a new SIM card to use with their service. They should provide SIM cards for free, much the same as your bank giving you a replacement debit card at no extra charge since you are using their services.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] george241312:
There lying they just want u to get the "new" Sims that have throttling and tethering detection ... have my sim card from 2005 cut and using it on tmobile. 4g hspa+ no issues wifi calls work..
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] treebreland:
I have not been able to find a free one in my area, the local stores charge 20 for it. and won't budge. Is there maybe a prepaid one I can get more cheaply?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
Before I got my s3, i went to my local t mobile store and told them i need a micro sim card for my new s3. They gave me one without a problem for free. I think in order to get one for free, you must be on a two year contract with t mobile and your account has to be in good standing.

if not try this http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=T-Mobile-Micro-SIM-Card it should work.

if that does not work, try ebay. if that does not work then just pay your t mobile store.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] awaisuk:
Hey,

I just got this tablet brand new from Google. I turn it on and there is a red line going across the screen. I also did the software upgrade and that did not fix the issue.

Someone know whats wrong?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 7h3.4pp12en7ic3:
Yea, you got a bad screen. I would contact customer service to see about a return.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bpye:
Return it, that's a hardware issue.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cr2crf:
Just got my Nexus 7 tonight. Plugged it in, everything came on no problem. Set the WiFi and was told there was an update. When it came back on the screen was red with just faint outlines of stuff in the background. Same problem? I'm taking it back tomorrow. 16 gig Nexus 7. This is my first experience with Android. Not impressed.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spooke:
It's not really a problem with 'Android' more of a problem of Asus's build quality / quality control. Don't get put off by this tablet, as most phones and other tablets have no issues.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cr2crf:
In fact you may be right. But this is my first trip from the other side because I just didn't want to spend $500 and wanted to see what else was out there. N7 seemed like a great place to jump in. Now I drive back to the store for an exchange after one day? Not what I was expecting. Before I leave the store, I'm going to have them power it up, do any setup and update, and play around with it for a while to be sure. I really want this to work cause the size is perfect for my need.