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[Nexus S General] imneo1:
Dear Google,

Congratulations ! JB is better then ICS... but:

There are some things that you must know about us Android users, I believe that even after all those years you still do not Know what we android users want. what any user wants...

don't get me wrong android is getting better with every version release but we ask for more then better.

I'm writing it here so you will know what we expect from android. don't try to Understand why we want that and not the other... it will save you a lot of time ... don't be too creative about these things, just do it so it will work . do it the way we want it - that's It.

these small (and easy to make) changes that you didn't add to android yet are preventing android from being the best OS in the eyes of the non-Android users.

1. We want to control (out of the box) at: WIFI,Mobile-Data,GPS,Blutooth,Screen Brightness,Sync,Rotation - from the "Notification Bar" - it is easy to do and any android user wants this on his device . so just do it !

Not adding this causes us to use custom roms sometimes even just for this one change (above). not that this is a bad thing, but this small "mod" that some known developers add, is a must for us.

2. We want to have "Call support" with someone actually answers and talks to us...and better to put it in the Dialer

3. We wanna have a chat and email support with response under 24 hours. some users/developers needs you - so be there - always.

4. Know your market already ! we love android. we buy android . stop running out of your new products all the time. prepare ahead. you can do it Google !

5. You made such a progress with the keyboard. what about a gesture to Change between langs ? it is so easy and it should work out of the box.

6. listen to us, let the users and developers talk to you . ask us questions and let us tell you how we think android should be, and most important :

Answer us. when we Chat,Email Call, Comment we want someone on the other side listening to us and then answers us.

You need our feedback and we need yours.

Right now, Android is a great OS there is no argue about that.

But if you will listen to the android community and provide us the tools we want then:

Android will be the best OS and there will be no argument about that ;)

Just do it . really, just do it

http://www.google.com/nexus/#/
[Nexus S General] teuntje3:
And you think that Google is going to read this?

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[Nexus S General] imneo1:
No i don't

You can try writing it for google, let me know what they said in 25 years from now.
[Nexus S General] Talal916:
Nice list, just gonna add my 2 cents, hope you don't take offense :D

I like this, and it shouldn't be too hard to put in an OTA, especially since the 4.0.4 OTA was only 1 mb or so.

Isn't that asking a bit too much for a phone that's almost 2 years old?

Same as above, but I'm not a dev, and this might be really helpful for devs..

Err,, yeah!:good:

I don't think it's that big of a deal to pull down the notification tray to change the language

:good::good:
[Nexus S General] Jhyrachy:
for google, i just want the first point and a full integrated telephone number based message service, like the iPhone.

It could be integrated easily in g+ istant messaging.
[Nexus S General] bl@ckadder:
Is a T9 dialer really that difficult to implement in a Stock ROM?
[Nexus S General] vetvito:
Just post this to Android Developers on Google+, they will answer you. You can even video chat with them. It's way better than a phone number, and yes it's official.
[Nexus S General] airswoosh1:
imneo1, thanks for speaking for ALL Android users.....HOWEVER, you will not satisfy everyone's needs....it's impossible. Personally, I don't find much of a need for any of your list. I like a clean pull down notification bar, so the lack of those controls is good with me and I've never found a need to call/chat/email Google about any of my Android devices. You can't have everything your way...Google sells products to millions of people....not just you. Just enjoy your device and be happy that Android has a thriving development community that can provide you with something closer to what you desire.
[Nexus S General] ejatds:
i just want the toggles and brightness slider in the notifications, battery percentage, and having the option to use both the slide to unlock and pattern/password/code. three features of custom roms that are really the only reason I need to root this thing.
[Nexus S General] xsteven77x:
The first point is totally valid and ridiculous that it's not already implemented.
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
If only you knew about the notification toggle app....it works perfect now in jelly bean as notifications can permanently stay at the top which wasnt possible in ICS.
[Nexus S General] imneo1:
you can't toggle GPS with these apps.

and this is an app
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
You sure can just need root access for one click GPS toggle. And so what if it is an app? It works just like anything else. A smartphone is all about customizing your experience with whatever "apps" you like.
[Nexus S General] imneo1:
This is what i'm talking about.

if the simple user will have these options available without rooting his device and not after searching and trying many apps ...

it should just be there when you turn on your device.

any device running android.
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
Ah dude this app does not require root access. If you are not rooted you can have a 2 click GPS toggle all the other toggles remain one click. If you really must have one click GPS without root you can keep the built in toggle on the homescreen. This really isnt as big a deal as you are making it out to be, the "basic" users dont even care about these things!!

The lack of t9 dialor is more frustrating as then you have to basically replace the dialor app to get t9 without custom rom.
[Nexus S General] imneo1:
The whole idea of android is simplicity and functionality .

I think pressing one click is better then clicking twice . i hope you think so too...

you care more for the dialer and that is fine. every user has his things, but many other users are searching for custom roms and mods because the Stock version does not contain their most important feature:"Notification Bat widgets" .

controlling the device is great. controlling it easily is even greater. and that's how i think android should be right out of the box.

simplicity is the name of the game.
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
So people can search for custom roms but cant search for an app that does it? :rolleyes:

For anyone who is looking to put custom rom is obviously rooted so the GPS toggle thing is irrelevant. Seriously anyone who really uses a custom rom for power toggles is just stupid period!!

And I dont know about HTC but samsung's solution is worse. They just give you 10 toggles and you cant change them so if you need a toggle thats not provided you have to use the toggle app to create 2 tiered toggles. The notification toggle app lets you put anything conceivable in the notifications so unless google gives that sort of do whatever you like thing I rather be without it.

How about a more customizable launcher? The stock launcher is so bare of options it's not even funny. That IS a legitimate problem.
[Nexus S General] madd0g:
You do realize that Google doesn't do those things in the stock ROM, JUST to keep relevant add on apps and community work going ?
[Nexus S General] DaXmax:
Listen up, Google doesn't put your features. Why? It's not for all android users, some users prefer stock. That is why Google has this thing called 'Android Open Source Project' A clean, no frills, no ui tweaks, no T9 and any thing that referred to CM.
[Nexus S General] frost866:
google does these things in first place,perhaps, they dont get a full optimize android with maximum speed.also i think some of these feature are belong to other devices,like htc,samsung,etc. and the most important reason is they want us to think a bit to develope and implement this features ino android os.
[Nexus S General] Talal916:
I think your thinking of iOS,, Android is far from simple ;)

Sent from my DROID RAZR
[Nexus S General] XxLostSoulxX:
You sir then have no abilities or even sense when it comes down to Android its much simpler than iOS and very easy to navigate and use.
[Nexus S General] Talal916:
Haha I'm not an Apple fanboy so please don't treat me like one. :p I don't get how in the world Android can be simpler than iOS? I'm an Android power user myself, but put yourself into the position of someone who has never had a smartphone before. Which OS do you thing has an easier learning curve?

Edit: I'm not trying to incite an iPhone vs Android war so let's not derail the thread ;D

Sent from my DROID RAZR
[Nexus S General] Gambler_3:
iOS is easier because of restricted multi-tasking, apps cant start depleting your battery in the background or choke performance like they can in android.

On the other hand uploading and sharing media is much simpler on android.
[Nexus S General] XxLostSoulxX:
i was the same no experience and then i went to a smartphone which was android and ever since i learned how to do it easy. i never like iOS it was too pathetic, and their idea of multitasking is stupid.

everything is simple for me on android and not to mention i use AOSP versus the Manufactures gay overlay version of what they think android should look like for instance HTC Sense, TouchWiz, Moto Blur.

And one thing for sure MOTO sucks no offense as a company and their phones have superior signal but i hate all manufactures in general i just like samsung because they can provide great hardware IMO. Especially Nexus Devices.
[Nexus S General] Talal916:
Haha any reason for your hate on Motorola, other than MOTOBLUR which is understandable? Also I don't know if your on the website or app right now, but if you see my sig, you'll see I'm an Ex-NS4G user just like you. I like Samsung for specs, but their build quality is total sh*t. Seriously, take your Nexus and give it a slight squeeze. You hear that horrible creaking noise? That doesn't happen on HTC and Motorola phones :D

Sent from my DROID RAZR
[Nexus S General] XxLostSoulxX:
nope I don't hear that and for build quality my Samsung epic has fallen on the cement floor from 5ft and all it did was make a tiny scratch on the bottom. It has fallen out and slid across cement and just a some surface scratches is all. It has fallen on the ground and hit metal like 40 times. I'd say for build quality its way better than any HTC phone
[Nexus S General] CooLoserTech:
'Just Do It'. So your bringing Nike into this?!?
[Nexus S General] nazklenknani:
I use Power Controls app from market. Its free and really handy. also able to always stay on top of notification bar. here the link

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5wYWlubGVzcy5wYyJd
[Nexus S General] yfan:
Off the bat, the OP's suggestions have merit. But the thing is they basically accomplish one thing: turning Android into iOS. In other words, going after all the bells and whistles some people may want instead of just building a great OS that fits multiple hardware specs, different makers, and can be skinned in all different ways (whether by developers or device manufacturers). The idea of iOS is standardization of all things, whereas the counter-idea of Android is that choice.

Secondly, "we want" nothing. There is no way to tell if anywhere near a majority of Android users agree to all, or even any, of these demands. It's a mistake for one person to try to speak for the vast base of Android users.

Third, as the OP mentioned, all of the things he wants are available through the developer community. Use that. That's why there is a developer community. App developers can add functionality too, as pointed out earlier in the thread.

Android is a great OS. It's even better because of the AOSP, which allows the development of incredible ROMs we see here. That's the way it should stay.
[Nexus S General] acburnett:
I just want one thing!

The only thing that I wish Google would finally do is too have threaded group messaging in the stock messaging app! Mostly because getting tons of messages from a group chat started with an iPhone is annoying as hell.
[Nexus S General] imneo1:
"turning Android into iOS" ?? - NO that is not what i mean

Google has a basic goal:

To get more android users. but this goal actually means more:

1. If a user is now considering to buy his first smartphone he should have no doubt that Android will better suite him then any other os.

2. Make the other user (any user including an IOS user ) easily see that android is better then what he uses right now.

I believe that in order to accomplish the above Google needs to focus on the users and not on android (What ??)

Explanation:

understand what the users wants not by guessing or by adding new "stuff" that Google thinks the user would like to have, but by communicating with users,allow users to tell google what they think and then: "Just Do it"

The things i wrote only includes some examples, but the change Google needs is a change of their perception of the users.

They always been in the right way and always been really close to do it (with JB close then ever) but still they are not there.

We all know that when you start to look at the details of the os Android is better then ios and now with JB it is even much better. then why some users are going to IOS ?

I think that there are many reasons for that . (That is for anothe thread) some of them we almost for sure can't change (some people wants Apple device even if they can't say why or provide any logical reason for wanting it... while an android user will usually be able to explain exactly why he chose android and even explain why he chose a specific manufacturer )

Google needs to find any logical reason and break it. make it an android advantage over ios instead of just leaving it to the developers, or to the hands of god... they need to better control the Branding of android.

Some people are going to a store and turn on an android device for their first time just to see if they like it. there is no android developer at the store, no android power user to explain that : "there is much more you can do with this device... you only need to unlock bootloader, get root and install this rom.... " and even if there was the simple user just wants a smartphone . why should he start "messing" with his new device ? as some of us really like to custom rom our device for most simple users this looks like too much work in a field they don't understand much about at best or got no clue at worst...

Therefor this will not convince the "First Smartphone user" Or the "Leaving IOS user".

However , what might convince him is : Speed, Functionality, Simplicity for start and some "most wanted and amazing !! " features available on the device without any intervention of the user at the OS Code.

At the bottom line, users (not power users) should be able to turn on an android device and enjoy it, discover a device that they can easily manage and there for choose to buy it.

"And that's all i got to say about that..." :)
[Nexus S General] gparent:
Please avoid writing "Android users" when you actually meant to write "me and other people who agree with me".

**** no! The last thing I want is a cluttered as hell notification area. Let people who want that get an app to do it.

Hell no! I do not want to pay a higher premium for my phone just because Google provides 24 hour phone support and passes the cost down to manufacturers. There are already mailing lists available and even some Web 14.0 Google+ thingies you can use.

Plus, phone support? Come on. This is 2012. Give me a chat so I can be productive instead of being unable to do two things at once because I'm stuck in a phone call that uses up my minutes while I wait.

Or please, just don't. The last thing I want is for Google to listen to people who think they're speaking for everyone else and that literally no one could possibly disagree. Cluttering the UI with useless **** is exactly what makes some software hard to use. Let power users get an app for that.
[Nexus S General] imneo1:
Just read this and stop attacking .

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=29346795&postcount=33
[Nexus S General] gparent:
You're implying I can't read, which is the only attack I see in this thread so far, including my post.
[Nexus S General] imneo1:
You are taking things way to seriously

These are just thoughts written at a post... you don't like it ? move on :)
[Nexus S General] Logomotph:
My request for google is use all the damn ram! We have 512 mb! Why do I need to install a custom rom so the launcher won't close when I play more intensive games? It can't be that hard considering you already know how android works in-depth.
[Nexus S General] yfan:
Uhhh, because no matter how good you think something is, someone else may find something else to be better for them. In these types of things, there is no objective measure of "better." It's whether something is better for you. People choose iOS either because that's what they are used to or because they like it better than Android. People pick Android because they like it better. It's called consumer choice. It's a good thing, IMHO.

"Why isn't everyone picking product A if product A is good" is not an actual argument against or even about whether Product A is good. Imagine if that's how we picked our doctors.

One of the basic differences between iOS and Android is that Google provides manufacturers and developers with the freedom to customize the user experience by skinning or modifying Android while Apple controls its hardware and software, standardizing every user's experience. We, as consumers, get to pick which one we like.

Bottom line: I have no problem with you expressing what YOU want. I do have a problem with you assuming everyone with a lick of sense feels the same way.
[Nexus S General] culaponk:
My wish for google, make apple broken heart more and more, make it misery

Lol
[Nexus S General] :
+1,

I wouldnt mind having a Paypal feature on the market either. it'd be great to be able to use my paypal money that i get from donations and even straight out of my bank account or online earnings on the google market!
[Nexus S General] RisinT96:
There is one thing that annoys me on the play store app, whenever I search for some app and scroll down, open one of the apps listed and then press the back key, it always goes back to the top of the list.

It would be great if Google made it so that I'll get back to the point where I stopped in the list and entered the app.
[Nexus S General] heccubusxda:
I'd say the number one thing missing from Android is a native backup app.

It's just wrong that you need root access just to do a full backup of your device...and to get root you usually have to wipe your device.

:thumbdown:
[Nexus S General] hp420:
I agree with everything the OP asks for, with the exception of the gesture to change languages. I absolutely DESPISE any gesture settings control....that **** drives me bat-****-crazy!!! I go to type something in, my finger slips, and boom! I've changed something and now I don't know how to get it back the way it was....**** YOU GESTURES!!!! I HATE YOU!!

Please, google....please, please, please DO NOT listen to this one recommendation EVER!!

I don't know about other users here, but most people I know (probably about 95%) speak English...maybe some spanish, italian, etc...but NOWHERE near enough to use a phone set to that language.

No offense, but in my situation, I would literally flash a ROM just to get rid of that feature if it were to happen....then I would hunt down the Google dev that wrote the script for it and kick him square in the balls...I hate gestures that much. So please stop building them in, app devs....nobody really likes them. they are a gimmick that nobody uses....like siri and face unlock.
[Nexus S General] LGXX:
@all: Share this with Google Developers on G+!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mangesh hotkar:
i am using custom ics rom on my note,now i want to revert back to stock GB.plz guide me which is the safest way to flash stock gb without bricking the phone pc-odin or cwm... i am confused. help plz......................looking for step by step guide.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sahilarora2003:
Go to download mode.

Connect it to pc.

Open Odin.

Select stock gb rom under pda tab.

Start flashing.

Wait for completion..

Your phone will be restart automatically... :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lee yun khong:
Mr. Sahilarora2003 guide will be the best and safer way to downgrade to gb.

After downgrade to gb, you will facing some fc problem when setting up the phone at 1st boot. Dont panic, just turn off the phone, boot into stock recovery and do full wipe, then you will be fine. Good luck mate.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mangesh hotkar:
but i read somewhere in forum flashing from pc odin may cause super brick,is there any way to flash a rom from cwm (i mean with abyss kernal).
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mangesh hotkar:
i am bit lazy to search plz tell me from where i should get this guide
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sahilarora2003:
Gb roms are safe to flash... Ics comes with bricks. Never ever wipe with stock ics kernel.. Since u want to downgrade u have to use odin as it is the safest way to flash. :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajasiman:
+1

Also do not forget to wipe after flash :) cheers!
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnkurBedi:
Contrary to popular beliefs , gorilla glass isn't that hard to crack !!

While sprinting it jumped out of my pocket and fell on tar road from 3.5 feet height approx and there was a crack on the top left .

Can anybody please tell me where can i get it replaced in New Delhi .

Ps: it fell flat screen down ...
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prax31:
hmmm very bad happened

find a authorised service center....u wont get anywhere else.

if u try other ordinary service centers they may damage your phone.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnkurBedi:
Got it replaced from gaffar market(Karol Bagh) from a proper repairing shop , not the street repair guys for Rs 1,200/- .

Motorola Service center was a disaster . There are 4 service centers in Delhi out of which only 2 could be connected via phone . One of the two had the digitizer , however if i was to get it replaced , they said ill have to give the device in for repairing for a week . Another peculiar thing was , the price variation among the 2 service centres . While one quoted Rs 2400/- the other quoted Rs 2800/- .
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prax31:
good

very good!!! but did u get a gorilla glass ?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnkurBedi:
Neither the repair guy knew it except that "it is original" nor did the service centre gal knew it except that " it is original" ..!!

However on amazon the price of it is around $20 and it writes seller as motorola so fingers crossed :)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m4manusraj:
Same problem to me also..

i also have a same problem..but there is no crack in ma case..just a scratch..

i thought gorilla can resist scrach..but a bit disappointed..
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnkurBedi:
I may have been not fair to the original gorilla glass . Thinking back , it is quite resilient . I mean it dint crack on plenty earlier occasions , when it fell . And some of those falls created tiny dents on the body , but not on the glass !!

i am now protecting the new one with my lyf now ... "my precious" :p
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] serfus:
yeah... it's really disappointing... my defy+ fell from about 1.2 meter and the screen got so scratched... it really wasn't a hard fall. for example i saw iphones fall harder and get almost nothing
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x-Moi-x:
1.2 meters it's high for a phone drop, I have seen iPhones that their screen shattered from this altitude.