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[Thunderbolt General] FirePsych:
I plan on keeping my T-bolt as long as I can and I'm pretty picky. I used to always covet other people's phones.

This is my second platform, I came from BB and my fourth model of smarthphone (I had three BB's before jumping ship).

Before I got a smartphone and then while I was on BB, I longingly looked at each new device or set of features that came out. I really haven't coveted anything else since I got my T-bolt.

Even on 3g it's light years faster than my last BB and I ran hybrids on that. Even Wifi is faster.

I've used friends' Razrs, Bionics, and SG3's and none of them really impress me.

The idea of the "pureness" of the G'nex interests me, but I'm in no hurry.

My wife has an iPhone 4S and I have to admit it's very nice and smooth. My T-bolt is more fun, but her iPhone is more refined.

And now with ICS hopefully around the corner and the current ICS beta I flashed this morning, my T-bolt has some new life breathed into it.
[Thunderbolt General] skeet43169:
I'm going to beigephone.com
[Thunderbolt General] WalkerGFX:
Well it seems we are going to plan on keeping our Thunderbolts for a little bit longer. Awaiting the ICS update. That or we will use one of the new ICS unofficial roms that are/have coming/come like Liquid ICS, and soon a new skyraider.
[Thunderbolt General] ksheth2130:
I'd like to see an official ICS rolled out to our Bolts, but I'm happy with the amount of devs we still have breathing a little life into our devices. I think I can hold off until my upgrade in March.
[Thunderbolt General] paul1035:
Now that there are several ICS leaks available, I'm thinking I will go much past my upgrade date since this phone seems to be working great with ICS!
[Thunderbolt General] nrfitchett4:
They will keep unlimited data for at least 2 more years. That is when the last of the unlimited data will be off contract. After that, I don't know. I know I won't buy any subsidized phones. Wife used 20+gb last month just on netflix on her phone and I routinely hit 10gb on streaming and ROM downloading on mine.

good luck with that. I doubt you would get to keep it.
[Thunderbolt General] VoodooGTR:
I plan on keeping my unlimited plan as long as possible. I do not mind the Thunderbolt but I am a person who likes newer toys. So my upgrade is coming up in November but using that would loose my data plan. I do use alot because of Google Music to and from work. Plus on business trips the WiFi in the hotels the Army sends me to Blow. So I want a new HTC phone because I think they are alot better than Moto and Sammie. Plus my SamTab10 gave me the impression that TouchWiz is horrible. There is the possiblity of a Thunderbolt "2" and that would push me to drop nearly a Grand on a phone. Plus KickStand FTW! Well I am done being random. TB till a Super HTC comes out and keeping Unlimited for as long as possible.
[Thunderbolt General] Dannar:
I have a question...I see people selling their unlimited plans on here. How the heck does that even work?

I dont need unlimited data...and Id like to get a cheaper plan with my wife. I pay $88 on VZW for unlimited data, texting, and 450 minutes. I'm pretty sure that includes insurance for my phone as well.

Does AT&T offer a decent deal for "family plan" for 2 people? Maybe there's another alternative?

Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
[Thunderbolt General] nrfitchett4:
from what I've read, you can give your acct to someone else. I would guess it requires either calling 611 or going into a corp store to switch it over. I'm guessing they would have to pass all the regular checks.

AT&T's plans are pretty similar.
[Thunderbolt General] egore93:
If you have another line on your account you can use it as your upgrade and apply it to your line. I used my wife upgrade to get the Galaxy S3 and I kept my unlimited data. They told me as long as I don't use my upgrade I will keep my unlimited data. So my wife gets the Tbolt and I got S3. I've had the S3 since launch date and it is a beast. When I touch my Tbolt it feels like a old brick. I didn't realize that the bolt was so out dated! I don't even want to touch it because its so slow compared to the Sammy. Good Luck!!!
[Thunderbolt General] -SmithTech-:
Sorry, didn't realise I wasn't following this thread.

I took them to court for the 8GB emmc advertised both on their website and on the in store flyers.

Got a credit from them that covered a new GS3 and about 6 months worth of service.

I did have to renew my contract for another two years but I was only about 10 months into a 2 year contract so really it was only an extra 10 months.
[Thunderbolt General] skeet43169:
Check out this site they offer some kinda employee discount for Verizon and some kind of way to keep your unlimited data even clean you bad esn mrcellphoneunlocker.com
[Thunderbolt General] googlemyahoo:
If I could keep a steady 4g signal anywhere besides the hospital I work in, I may keep Verizon, but literally the only place I have good 4g reception is inside the bowels of the hospital. Have to switch to 3g and reboot for 3g to work.
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyco2008:
I heard about this...from all they can do, I would surmise that its someone working for verizon that just makes money at Verizon's expense, which sounds very illegal. Although if I needed to, I would, even though it costs nothing for the guy to look up my account and change the data plan.

Wouldn't that be weird if the site was a ploy by Verizon to charge people to get Unlimited data back so that they don't get hate for charging so much themselves?...hmm

And way to sue, what kind of asshole company makes one renew their contract after all that?...Did you hire a lawyer?
[Thunderbolt General] -SmithTech-:
No lawyer, just filed a small claim against the at the county Court House.
[Thunderbolt General] dmeadows013:
If anyone wants to buy a new phone and keep unlimited I'm selling my Rezound for 250 obo +shipping... Comes with a case and extended battery addon. Barely used warranty replacement from VZ. No scratches or dings. Screen is perfect and it comes in the OG box... First come first serve lmk lol
[Thunderbolt General] sithdroid2187:
I plan to stick with vzw, I just prefer their network. However, once I can get rid of my tbolt, I am going to a nexus device.
[Thunderbolt General] Gnoop:
With my wife not having a smartphone and me wanting her to get one, I'll likely be upgrading both of us when my upgrade is due. I'll lose the unlimited data but I'm not the heaviest user. I'll get a shared data plan with enough data to easily cover the both of us and call it a day.
[Thunderbolt General] Aggraxis:
I had an original Droid (loved it), and the touchscreen went nuts on me something like 3 months before I could upgrade, so I switched it over to my old flip phone that I kept as a backup. Somewhere in all that they killed unlimited plans, so I wound up coming back online with a TB for $79 but with 2 GB data, which then turned into 4GB during some kind of promotion. Verizon then sent me a thing about selling my phone back, and I wound up making money on the upgrade. I have since learned to live with the 4GB limitation, but I do miss not worrying about my mobile shenanigans.:angel:
[Thunderbolt General] chrootz:
My fiancee and I are going get SG3 this Friday and I still have hotspot $30 unlimited on my acct. I am thinking leaving hotspot on my tbolt act like router tethering. I don't know if Verizon allow it for being separate grandfathered unlimited data and unlimited hotspot.
[Thunderbolt General] trapperjohn:
Hi,

The New shared plan comes with tethering. They want you to use more data... I have a feeling you will not be able to keep unlimited hotspot would cause a conflict.

Thanks,

Bryan
[Thunderbolt General] chrootz:
You could right about this. I mean no harm to ask Verizon to see if I could do it or not. I will let you know once I find out when we are process purchase the SG3 this friday.
[Thunderbolt General] trapperjohn:
Hi,

It would be great if you can do it!

Good luck.

Thanks,

Bryan
[Thunderbolt General] keeverw:
I just found a used Gnex in good condition on Craigslist for $200.

I bought it and now the TBolt goes to my kids for playing games.

I didn't lose my Unlimited plan.

But if they ever do take it away from me, I'll bide my time until my contract expires (using Wifi for all downloads other than email and social stuff) and then when it's time I'll switch to Sprint.

I really don't think limited data plans are the future. I think it's a temporary solution to the recent surge of smartphone users. But as phone's internal storage gets bigger and apps get bigger, data plans will have to get bigger too.

I downloaded a game last week that was 1.6GB. That is just one app download, and it uses 3/4ths of a 2Gb data plan, lol.

And then I watch Netflix movies every day on my lunch break, and thats about 500MB to 750Mb average for a 45 minute show.

I'm not losing unlimited data, until they just finally say screw the customer and just take it away.

I'll be fine on my Gnex for a good while. And when it's time to upgrade, I'll find the next Nexus device used on Craigslist or ebay and buy one of those.

I'm a Nexus guy from here on out. Period, end of story. I am sick and tired of being rom-blocked by phone manufactuers, lol. Nevermore.

Even if you don't renew your contract, if your contract expires and you are on month-to-month, they can change your plan.

You're only gauranteed the grandfather thing as long as your contract is in effect.

Hopefully, soon technology will evolve enough to handle the massive amounts of data users, and everything will go to being unlimited again.
[Thunderbolt General] androidrookie84:
I'm going to hold on to it for about a couple more months and then buy a used Gnex,Rezound or SG3
[Thunderbolt General] chrootz:
It's sad HTC even wont release freaking almost 2 years old TBolt source. Now on, I wont buy any HTC devices instead getting nexus line from google or Samsung Galaxy line.
[Thunderbolt General] -SmithTech-:
Go with the GS3. Better processor, double the RAM, double the storage and a better camera. Plus it has a micro sd slot in addition to that when compared to the gnex. No reason you can't get 3 to 4 years out of the GS3. You will be looking to upgrade sooner if you get either of the other ones.
[Thunderbolt General] npro1464:
It's funny how many people in this thread have vowed to only buy Nexus phones from here on out, lol. I feel the same exact way! A year ago, I might have said it's a no-brainer, and gotten a GS3 right away. My experience with the Thunderbolt has made me afraid to pick up a non-Nexus phone again.

The TB was ok when it first came out, but now everything about it seems so laggy, perhaps its just in comparison to other phones or maybe the phone has slowed down over it's life? I feel like Sense is so incredibly laggy, and when I flash an ASOP ROM I get a laundry list of problems and have to flash back to a Sense ROM. No matter what, I drop data at least a dozen times in the day, so I either have to toggle data on and off or reboot my phone. So I'm done with anything to do with carrier crapware or manufacturer skins. I'm also peeved that we never received ICS, even when promised by HTC. It's VZ's fault, as we know. So I'm done with carriers all together. When the Nexus family is launched, I will pick from that crop and go pre-paid from here on out. It's getting really hard to wait, however...
[Thunderbolt General] Nomad1600:
Which AOSP ROMs did you try? I went from a Sense-based ROM (SOAB) to an AOSP-based ROM (Thundershed 1.6) and not only is the ROM rock stable (more stable than stock) but it is much smoother and has way better battery life than the stock set up and even the Sense-based ROM. Everything works, including the wifi hot spot that comes in the ROM. If you haven't tried it yet you should. I also understand Liquid Smooth is also a very good ROM, as is SFK's CM7.2 ROM.
[Thunderbolt General] ss0mohit:
Really? My phone's smooth as butter. It's comparable to my friend's Droid Inc LTE.

Just overclock sense roms and they'll be working so smoothly. Experiment with different radios, I hardly have data drops, maybe once every 4 days. I'm running AOSP with beats built in on an ICS rom.
[Thunderbolt General] number5toad:
I've been with Verizon for over a decade, but I'm pretty ready to change that over these tiered data plans. I don't even mind losing unlimited data, but the price per GB structure under the new system is horrendous.

Looking hard at buying an unlocked Nexus (from the next generation, hopefully) and going with a pre-paid plan.
[Thunderbolt General] Aggraxis:
I've been with them about that long, too. I get a 15% monthly discount, but even then I'm just not entirely sure it's worth staying between the trend for anti-consumer pricing and how badly some of the handsets are supported. It almost seems like they're trying to create artificial demand for new handsets, which they migth believe drives folks to renew 2-year agreements. Mama llama keeps asking me to look into Boost Mobile. I'm not super excited about changing everything up, but 'the network' has been really flaky as of late. Not a lot holding me down besides the current term of my contract.
[Thunderbolt General] bwpopper:
Every time I think about switching to Sprint, I think of my friends with their lousy data speed, weird phones, and spotty coverage. As much as I want to support the little guy, figuratively, Sprint just doesn't make it attractive to switch in this area.

Seems like we Bolt owners were victims of our desire to have the hottest thing going. We bought a product that could do something that no other phone was doing at the time. I came from the OG Droid, which must have been charmed, because that thing has a JB port already. Loved that phone, but I wanted the shiny new thing, and I was interested to play with Sense. Now I prefer to ride without Sense, but AOSP devs are at the mercy of the carrier and manufacturer to release updates for this phone before they can really advance to the next version, and it drives me nuts. I'm not exactly a crackflasher, but I do like new toys, and if this were a Google Experience phone like the Droid, it seems like development wouldn't be such tough sledding.

Of course, I'm not a developer, so I don't really know what I'm talking about. It just sounds good in my head. Good luck, everyone. :)
[Thunderbolt General] Slim1023:
My TB is still working really well. I'm not due for an upgrade until March. But that $120 off the developer edition of the S3 is very tempting.
[Thunderbolt General] geoff5093:
Do you know if we only get the 15% discount on the data portion, or on the $40 access charge for the phone as well? Right now I get 15% off the voice and data plan.
[Thunderbolt General] CarRamrod234:
I'm looking into Virgin Mobile $35 a month for unlimited data and text with 300 minutes. Or I may use Gvoice over data connection and drop talk/text if possible. There is also Republic Wireless I'm looking into, which is $20 a month unlimited everything. Downfall is limited handset choice for that and Virgin.
[Thunderbolt General] -SmithTech-:
Virgin also uses sprint networks, a friend has it and gets lousy coverage in my area. Look for a prepay that uses Verizon networks, there are 1 or 2 of them.
[Thunderbolt General] CarRamrod234:
Yeah I'm weighing my options as my contract isn't up for a little while yet. There is Boost as well as Straight Talk. I'm looking into everything. Like I sid where I live I've never gotten stellar cell performance and I've always had Verizon. Pretty sure hills, trees, and lots of old infrastructure and such make it tough in general.
[Thunderbolt General] lukesed:
Wait, can you really do this?
[Thunderbolt General] mobitote:
Well HateTC and VZW can go to hell, soon as my $1.00 tbolt contract runs out I am going nexus 7 and dumb phone its getting rather tedious trying to maintain smartphones from this idiotic companies.
[Thunderbolt General] mgenova:
I have 2 thunderbolts on my account, both contracts won't be up until nov15. I called verizon and asked for tech support just to do a device swap back to my old DROID x. I told her my tbolt was broken and just needed to swap and the lady let me upgrade early. So I got a new GS3, and my bill went down $40 bucks from 180 to 140 for a 6 Gb share plan with unlimited minutes and text. I was worried about losing my unlimited data but I never use more than 3GB and my wife uses 1 GB. Then I picked up a used mint condition white razr for the wife on ebay for 200 bucks. All in all I paid 400 for two new phones and am saving 40 on my bill. The bolts are on ebay so hopefully I only end up about 200 in the hole. Good bye tbolt ill miss you but I won't miss your data issues.

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Oh I forgot to mention the lady on the phone at verizon gave me the option to keep my unlimited data. She said this is something only the tech support department can do. I went to a local store and they wouldn't help me at all. So I guess if you can come up with a reason to call tech support they can bend the rules a bit for you
[Thunderbolt General] dvgb173:
Looks like my TBolt is going to start having problems as soon as the next hot-sh*t phone comes out!

Doug B.
[Thunderbolt General] awodzenski:
I like used phones. Wait a few months and pick one up cheap
[Thunderbolt General] lukesed:
I'm going to wait for the supposed announcement of new Nexus phones next month, then pick a GSM phone and sign up for the t-mobile $30 no-contract plan.
[Thunderbolt General] jonah1234:
i dont think it will work cause im not using my upgrade
[Thunderbolt General] lukesed:
I went to the Verizon store - you can definitely use a family member's upgrade and not lose your unlimited. In the system, that person has upgraded their contract, then transferred the new phone to you. You're good so long as nobody uses your upgrade.
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyco2008:
And so long as that family member doesn't need unlimited data, if only to be free of overage paranoia.

Damn Verizon.
[Thunderbolt General] lukesed:
Right, often a user who doesn't care about upgrading is not very technically advanced and may not even have a data plan.
[Thunderbolt General] jonah1234:
so i won't lose my unlimited data but the family member's upgrade that i use will?
[Thunderbolt General] androidrookie84:
I would go with straight talk if your going to go pre-paid and buy u an unlock GSM phone.
[Thunderbolt General] geoff5093:
If they currently have unlimited, then yes, using their upgrade will cause them to lose unlimited.
[Thunderbolt General] GPhoenix:
I would concur as well but according to this review Straight Talk won't be that good for heavy data /unlimited users and doesn't support LTE if those are deal breakers. gigaom.com/mobile/straight-talk-it-could-let-you-dump-att-or-t-mobile/

I'm looking to cancel my Sprint contract early and pick up a GSM from here in Asia so Smart Talk looks like a great viable solution since I'll only need temp phone access while visiting home for the holidays.
[Thunderbolt General] buton2:
I will just get something used at Craigslist or ebay for about 200, like a nexus 4G lte or a galaxy s3. I that way I keep my unlimited...
[Thunderbolt General] geoff5093:
Good luck finding a Galaxy S III for $200.
[Thunderbolt General] plambda:
Company is getting me an iPhone on AT&T. Not what I would have chosen for myself, but you can't argue with free.

I guess I'll just eat whatever ETF VZW levies and say farewell.
[Thunderbolt General] chrootz:
I able keep my unlimited data grandfather account by just pay full retail price as I bought gs3. I'm very satisfied with new Samsung galaxy s3 is pretty superior to tbolt.

Ootherwise

Sent from my SCH-I535

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Forget addition, the Verizon said that I will lose the unlimited hotspot if I wanted keep unlimited hotspot on my tbolt as act modem router so I decided not want lose my unlimited hotspot instead moved everything on my new galaxy s3 phone. Again, I have everything unlimited data and hotspot. :D

Sent from my SCH-I535
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyco2008:
The GSIII costs like 1.5x the price of the Galaxy Nexus, pure Google isn't appealing enough?

The Galaxy S III is alluring for certain, I mean 2GB of RAM, 8MP shooter, a micro SD slot..

I'm turned off by the screen and the capacitive/home button setup, if Google phased the buttons out, why...ugh And after a certain screen size, I call it quits. I don't need almost 5" in my pocket, 7's a tablet, remember!
[Thunderbolt General] RBarnett09:
I thought the Galaxy S III didn't have an SD slot.

It does?!
[Thunderbolt General] chrootz:
Galaxy S3 doesn't have sd slot. But hey I cant complain and this thing supercharger compare to TBolt and decent developers active in Verizon Galaxy S3 section. I mean it is damn worth pay full retail price if you have grandfathered unlimited data.

I still have TBolt with me and very mint condition cause TBolt is my first 4g smartphone.
[Thunderbolt General] -SmithTech-:
If your phone doesn't have a micro-sd card slot its not an s3.

I got a 32gb card in mine on top of the 32 gig on the phone.
[Thunderbolt General] chrootz:
32gb sdcard here too, I was saying that inside the s3 has internal the bay has slot of the sdcard near battery. I was referring sdcard slot outside the s3 body doesn't have one.

Sorry misinformation. :good:

I have is 16gb internal storage and 32gb sdcard from TBolt on external sd slot.
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyco2008:
What? The S III has an SD card slot.... inside of it, not somewhere near it lol
[Thunderbolt General] T41NT:
Keep on rooting!
[Thunderbolt General] CarRamrod234:
I saw that article a little while ago. I feel like for the data limit I would be fine if I start using Wi-Fi, which I never use now as I wanna get my moneys worth from greedy Verizon while having unlimited. And HSPA+ is improving, and in my area on my Tbolt I've never gotten above 5mbps download speed anyway, which doesn't seem very good for LTE if you ask me. Contract is up in March so I have a while to figure it out. I just hate Verizon and AT&T.
[Thunderbolt General] John.E.Boi:
Hahahahahaha

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[Thunderbolt General] recDNA:
Good Bye!

Well...not really. I'm keeping my Tbolt for jollies however I just picked up a new Razr Maxx HD. As soon as I saw root is already available I jumped! Kept my unlimited data so it cost a fortune. Oh well, I will still be a regular since I intend to continue to update my Tbolt as the occasion merits (for wifi use and as a backup).
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyco2008:
My plans went to "family member gets Thunderbolt", honestly I don't see it going anywhere and I'm the only one who cares what Android version I'm on lol.
[Thunderbolt General] ocman40:
TBS with 32Gb cards are going for close to 150 on ebay and galaxy nexuss are going for like 220 right now.

Think Im gonna sell and get a gnex soon.
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyco2008:
New they're in the $375 range ;)
[Thunderbolt General] ocman40:
watched at least 5 go today in the 220 range that were in what I would call excellent condition.
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyco2008:
Can't go wrong with $220 when Verizon wants $600.
[Thunderbolt General] ocman40:
True dat!
[Thunderbolt General] Klonopin:
As soon as work picks up and things aren't so stressful - I'm probably going to do 1 of 2 things:

1 - I listen to Joe Rogan's podcast, and often times they talk about this phone service called "Ting" where I can get either a phone that uses a SIM and Root it to work on the Ting network or possibly just buy a phone through Ting themselves depending on the selection.

or

2 - Buy a new phone at full retail and possibly switch from Verizon.

It's not that I have anything against Verizon, it's just that I'm now beginning to see how not being able to easily swap out SIM cards and switch services say if I were to go overseas or want a different service but keep my phone.
[Thunderbolt General] recDNA:
I picked up a full price Razr Maxx HD. Very happy with it so far. Tbolt now wifi only in bedroom. Still fun playing with Tbolt ROMS so I will still be around.
[Thunderbolt General] feered:
I envy you -__-