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[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
You watching the ashes? :P [MENTION=4638096]Epic.[/MENTION] As well

I just flashed CM11 M1 on my flo its pretty good so far. Waiting for official PA builds :D
[HTC Incredible S] DuffyBank:
Heading to the MCG on Boxing Day?
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Nah probably not, maybe to the big bash though. You're in Melbourne too?
[HTC Incredible S] DuffyBank:
No Canadian in Canada, but I spent 10 years working for an Aussie firm in the West Indies, caught the tail end of the Viv Richards era and onto Lara, and became addicted to the game. Business trips were often planned around the one day schedule.
[HTC Incredible S] MrToastbrot:
So some day Motorola really announced that my XT925 will get an update to 4.4 KitKat. The devices hasn't seen any update for over a year from 4.0.4 to 4.1.2.

Thats nice, maybe I'm going back to stock.

My Nexus 7 is also stock on KitKat, but rooted for Titanium Backup.

My IncS is also running KitKat.

so all of my devices are running 4.4 except for my Wildfire which is running with Gingerbread (ftw :D)
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Ah nice, thought you were from around hereI

I know some very talented Canadians here on xda

Woohoo,kit Katz partay

Its a nice visual improvement nothing much else to me haha

Trying to get my post count back up again, I was hitting 12 posts per day a month or so ago then I got hit by exams :(
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
It feels weird, I've yet to flash kitkat on this phone...

I've been needing exactly those things that happens to be broken x) but now that I've got my laptop working and don't really use my phone that much, might be the time to join the kitkat family.
[HTC Incredible S] MrToastbrot:
I wouldn't try KitKat if I were you. It's just too buggy and a lot of things don't really work.
[HTC Incredible S] DuffyBank:
That is where I am at with KitKat as well. I loaded it once and went back to ICS. I'll wait and see if more of the bugs that are important to my use are solved.
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Just to make this clear, do you really think I'd be on this site if I cared? :D

I was one of those testing 4.2 kernels before they booted ;) kitkat seems more stable than that at least :3
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
I haven't flashed it either on my vivo don't feel alone
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
KitKat just won't boot past the splash screen for no reason on my Vivo :(

even if I didn't plan on staying on it, still would've been nice to see it :(
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
But aren't you one of those sense users?

*edit*

picking up the nexus 5 tomorrow. :3
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
Yeah, buy a cheap TPU or similar hard silicone/gel case. Makes the phone far more solid feeling and don't have to worry about scratches and drops. Got mine for like $4 on ebay
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I don't like to have cases on my phones :/

I prefer them slim. :P

And I'll just avoid dropping it down the stairs (which I did with this phone and the one I had before...) the first day x)
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
I have a slim TPU and it doesn't take away that slim feeling. Just adds a little preferred weight. The phone is unbelievably light.
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
And having a phone completely covered in rubber wouldn't fit me, it's difficult enough to get my phone out of my pocket without it being covered in rubber x)
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
Its silicone it slides out better. Your point is invalid.
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I just don't want it :(

And I don't even have the phone yet, wait before telling me to buy stuff :(
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
Its $4 haha
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Yeye, I'll probably not buy one :D
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
Alright mate. I just love mine even more with it. :)
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Going down to the store in 30min ;)

I hope they can cut my sim card, if they can't I've to wait for a week or two before I can get a micro sim x)
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Have nexus 5 yet?
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Not sure

*edit* I've to talk to my carrier and fix so I can have 4G... Apparently my 4 year old pay plan thingy doesn't include 4G x)
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
hahaha, tell me when you have made up your mind

Sent from my computer
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I love this thing.

But like I said in my edit, need to talk to the support to get 4G :D

*edit* uhm, so... Any nice looking (free) games out there to try out now that I've got a phone that can run them?
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Yes you need a plan that supports 4G unfortunately. I am on an old plan cause there are no cheap 4G plans on Optus... so I have 3G only :/ I hope to switch soon to another carrier, Optus is giving me the sheets.

Pokemon Victory Fire is good :D
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Using a refill, so I just have to contact their support. I fixed my sim and shi* before 4G existed so that's why it isn't included for me, everyone who signed up for a refill with this operator after Mars already have access to 4G, up to 40Mbit/s... I signed 4 years or so ago :(

Meh, crap. I've to update my plan from the one I've got no to the one called "Everything" (freely translated) to get 4G, stupid operator using weird names and confusing me. Thought I already had the right one, turns out I almost had the right one x)

Well, I've got access to WiFi basically all the time right now so no point in changing until I go back home :)
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Unlucky mate

You gonna beat [MENTION=4811711]james1196[/MENTION] to root it first? :P
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Already had one phone with hardware failure, my laptop's motherboard broke first week...

Nah, I'm waiting for a week or two before rooting it :P
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
I waited for like a month and a half for my second One lol
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I don't think I'll wait for that long, I miss being able to customise the tiles and such...
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
The "tap some tiles and long press others" feature is stupid
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I like the way they did it in cm, maybe I just got used to it :P

Like on WiFi - just press it to enable/disable, hold to get to WiFi settings :3

I wondered if I did something wrong when I pressed the WiFi tile now and ended up under settings instead of enabling it...
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
It makes sense to tap it. Like aeroplane mode, just tap it

Almost every custom rom does it. I am rocking SlimKat now and it is awesome

I don't like how CM have branched off from AOSP, becoming a CAF based ROM because it breaks compatibility with my fav kernels :/ Either I have to make my own or I use a AOSP ROM, so I am using Slim now highly recommended :good:
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Only that thing alone is making it worth to go to a custom ROM :P

Apparently, holding the WiFi tab will turn on/off, stupid. Should be the other way around :(

Also, this thing is huge
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
haha me too actually. And I wanted to try kernel stuff, and use trickster to monitor my freqs
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
But seriously, this phone is bloody gigantic o.o

My thumb's too short...

Well, so many ROMs in the xda dev section for nexus 5 - how am I supposed to choose?
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
I took about a week to really get used to my One

Ask james haha about ROMs.. I guess though on qcom Nexus devices ROMs are similar. I am waiting for PA to release
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I'm also waiting for PA... might actually stay stock until they release an official ROM :)
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
That might be a while

GPU underclock on One? Check :D tomorrow is GPU day on my One, getting great battery out of it now
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Got my phone precharged to around 70%... Been using it basically constantly for 4 hours now and still 20%.

Battery life is better than I expected :P

And I don't think I need to overclock the CPU for a while :P
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
That is amazing

Imagine it underclocked.. I doubt you need 2.3GHz anyway :D
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I'll probably underclock to 1,8 or something like that :P

2.3GHz seems like something some games might need, but that's about it :P
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
Go CarbonRom for features and slimkat for a light clean ROM. That's what was suggested.

Also the big screen feels good now, at first I couldn't use it well. My thumb has adapted :3
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Sorry for thanking you, dropped the phone on my thumb ;)

Anyway, I'd love PA to be released :3

Sent using alien technology *zap*
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
True. Take a look around though, there are some nice alternatives. I'm most likely going with Carbon.
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Are we going for a thanks war? You're thanking me for doing my phone so I thanked you, which means I've to thank you for thanking you for thanking me for thanking you (and you you see where this is going, right?) o.o

So much choice...

Also, what's up with backing up the efs or whatever? Haven't read up on it yet, since I don't plan on rooting just yet.

Or?

Sent using alien technology *zap*
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
Don't know what you mean by back up 'efs'. I read through the guide. Its a simple toolkit and command unlock. Followed by custom recovery and ROM. It is as easy as it gets.
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
There was something you should backup, don't remember what or why though.

I think we're actually going off topic, in an off topic thread since it's for incs users ;) I will probably abandon the incs now, don't see any point in using it now :P

Sent using alien technology *zap*
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
When I go back to it, it feels like such a bad phone haha. Tiny and terrible quality screen.
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I noticed that after using the nexus for 5 minutes and was going to turn off the incs :P

Meh, I want customisation. I might get it unlocked tonight :)

Sent using alien technology *zap*
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Make sure you guys know your manual adb fastboot command cause y you might need them one day

Toolkits are good at rooting phones when people don't have a clue what command are
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I've always done that stuff via cmd, will continue doing it that way :3

Why make things easy..?

Sent using alien technology *zap*
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
James wants to use toolkits :eek:
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Because people are mad lazy :p There really wasn't much "automated way" to root the incredible S aside from the Revolutionary (you could have done the downgrade thing manually). So that's the only way I know :)

I think it's a shame when people try to root their phones and have absolutely no idea what's going on. I mean, by using a toolkit, you are essentially putting your device and trust to someone else. :S One small line of code screw-up and boom, everything could go poof :p
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I had the Acer liquid a1 before the incs, manually doing stuff was the way to go ;)

Sent using alien technology *zap*
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
I did everything manually, it was like 2 months before nonverbose's automated script. I even made the goldcard manually. No idea how I did it lol
[HTC Incredible S] MrToastbrot:
So I'm a few hours away and we have 5 Pages more...
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Cause of the nexus 5 people
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
I meant the toolkit download thingy that gives you the adb files. Sorry for confusion :P One click tools are pointless, the unlock is easy already.

Edit: Android SDK tools! That's the one.
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Sure you did :D
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
You tryna make me mad mate? Its working xD
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Wanna go?
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Good morning.

Or, something like that...

Edit

Yea, I think I'll unlock this thing today.

Sent using alien technology *zap*

*edit*

It might be that I accidentally rebooted my phone into bootloader and accidentally wrote "fast oem unlock" in my CMD window that I accidentally opened and navigated to where I had previously saved the Android toolsthingy needed to unlock... and it might be so that I'm flashing TWRP in about 1 minute from this edit.

[MENTION=4811711]james1196[/MENTION]: unlocked yet? Did I win?

Jk, but, now I have to find a ROM I want to use :D too many to choose from so I can't decide, but it looks like I'm going for Purity first :o either that or CM11 :P

I'm on Purity ROM. And note to self: remember to download gapps next time... *sigh*
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
I got my phone first, we both win.
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Crap, I don't know which ROM to choose :(

CM11 still seems to be a bit early (and it refuses to sync my contacts and gmail for some reason o.o), maybe I should go for SlimKat? Purity was boring... didn't have that much customization yet :(
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Lol on the IncS, its like, "O No! Too few ROMs to choose from!" (not that it matters since Szeszo is such a great dev :good: :) ) but on Nexus 5 its like "O No! Too many ROMs to choose from!"

BTW, does anyone know why Google Edition Devices are ONLY available in USA??? I find that kind of weird considering you have Nexus devices available everywhere :/
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
You can probably buy them from some companies that import their stuff :P

And yea, I think I might sell the nexus and go back to my incs... ha, no. I'm not. I don't think I'll even turn it back on for a while :D
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Hmmm.... Maybe I could go to some Chinese mall and get a GE Tablet :) The LG G Pad 8.3 looks nice :)
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
There's a swedish company that imports stuff from UK and USA, including the Google Edition phones :3
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
If you get a SGS4 or One you can turn it into the google edition 100% by flashing its firmware and ROM :good:

Your phone lost its virginity in its first day or something? lol
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Took me about 30 hours before I flashed a ROM :3

I cba waiting
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Yea I know but what if I want an LG G Pad 8.3??? Then where do I get it :( the only place I can think of is some Chinese place :p

One last question: What makes OMNI different???? Like I search here and there and I'm picking up small things but is there something where I can see its big differences or most of them???
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
And that's why I can't decide...

"So... I wonder what makes this ROM different..."

So far I've realised that it doesn't really matter because 4.4 and this phone is too new and most features are still either not working or buggy :/
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Hahahaha true say. I've seen a lot of "This doesn't work very well" because I've been peaking into Nexus 5 forum every now and then to check what's new since I'm getting it soon too :D

I wish PA would get up and running with PA 4 :/ PA has just about the most features of all of them :D
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I really want PA...

My biggest problem right now though... How the fu*k do I know if a ROM uses caf and which kernels work with which ROMs?
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Why would you want one of those? lol

idk lol the first nightly I ran of it had broken wifi on flo, so I gave up and that it the last omni I flashed :) It has some new features like the multiwindow thing and some supposed roadrunner mode to save battery but its all in early stages now

Everyone is getting one? Doesn't anyone like sense lol
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
yeah CM have really screwed everyone over with CAF stuff. Easiest way is to look in OP or search the thread for CAF

Another way is to look up their sources on github.. you can see things like audio, media things in source forked from CAF
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Cyanogenmod decided to f*ck everyone sideways, backwards from behind and from everywhere at the same time.

My biggest issue with just trying a kernel... Is that I've got no idea how to get back into recovery in case of a bootloop... You know, I can't simply remove the battery o.o
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
yep I believe it is rape

There must be a hardware combo. When I make a kernel that doesn't boot, which is often, I press vol down and power and hold them.. N5 must be similar
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Tried to Google and didn't really find anything, and tbh, xda's search function is not that great....
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
just try combinations lol it won't hurt the phone

try hold power and vol down

or power vol up
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
It's vol-down+power to enter bootloader, I really hope it's possible to cancel the boot in some way :D

But I don't want to try and flash a kernel and then try every combination possible in case it doesn't work x)
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
it should be, it is on both grouper and flo
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
So... How you know you're rooted: you're desperately trying to find out how to turn off the phone while it's booting :D
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Hmm alright :-/ OMNI looks promising but it's still new so maybe I'll lie off of it :p Also I did consider HTC One because Sense has a gazillion features which I really like :) But at the same time, HTC is way too quick to end support for devices even though I'll probably be running rooted anyways :p Plus the Nexus 5 is cheaper and better hardware :)

I'm a noob. Whats CAF? and what's so significant about it? I searched it up but I'm still inconclusive as to what it is??? :confused:
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
For my part it means I've got no clue which kernels work for which ROMs.
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
HTC have put out their 4.x firmware version recently with kit kat, which is unheard of really for a htc. I hope they are starting to support devices more

CAF is code Aurora forum. Its basically the people behind the kernel and drivers for msm devices mostly (Qualcomm)

AOSP would have branched their repos from CAF years ago when they started... So their libs and stuff differ a lot from CAF now with compatibility changes etc

CM branched off CAF a few months ago, so their stuff is theoretically more up to date and optimized. But, theirs hasn't been moulded from AOSP stuff and is so different to AOSP that its not compatible

Basically they have created a split like in htc forums. While we have sense and AOSP being different and not compatible with each other, that's essentially what nexus forums have too (CAF vs AOSP)
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
I was actually pretty surprised that HTC has already put out 4.4 for some devices. I expected this to be months away at first given HTC's incredibly ridiculous wait times :p Plus 4.3 has arrived on some devices. This is good news because a big complaint is lack of support for their devices. I still feel sad for the One X users though :S

Why would CM do that??? I don't get it??? Why not just stick with AOSP??? What was wrong with AOSP? lol
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
4.4 GPE was out the same time as mako and flo

4.4 sense 5.5 has been leaked already (timing makes me think that htc allows these leaks to keep the community happy)

4.3 sense is out in Australia too, htc have really improves their update speeds

Dunno if CM wanted to be different or what. They do have some advantage, eg mako and flo kernels are built from the same source with only a different defconfig

It does help them have less repos for more devices. There has always been a common repo for similar devices: htc msm8xxx, Samsung galaxy s4 variants etc were built from same source, now they do it with nexus
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Btw if you post what ROM we can have a look if they are CAF or AOSP
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Problem is: neither the kernels or ROMs (rather, their devs) state in their op if it's compatible with what x)

Using slimkat and was planning on using elemental kernel, which supports both caf and stock but you have to choose which one to use during the flash :/
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Wow flar does that? Lol

Usually kernels say. They shouldn't need to say though it's not their fault
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
If I can't find any references to CAF in SlimKat's kernel, I guess it's based on the stock kernel... or am I doing something wrong?

Anyway, flashing elemental with stock ramdisk instead of the one for CM (+ others based on CM) :) wish me luck

*edit*

I remembered wrong, it was either current ramdisk and stock ramdisk I could choose between, I chose stock and so far so good. Seems to be working :) at least it booted :D
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Slim is AOSP, I am using it on my flo :)
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
Tempted to root....
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Ah, but last time I checked cyanogenmod still claims to be aosp too ;)

James, go ahead. Or wait until PA is released, most ROMs lack in customisation right now...
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Well they lied

Kangaroo for One is up!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2564895
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Your first posts are about requests, gotta feel great :D
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Gotta love it, thats what the viper guys were saying lol
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I haven't even made a post yet over at the N5 forums, I think I'm too much of an off topic guy to be there :(
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Yeah I know I looked through your posts :D
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
How much bs vs informative posts? :D
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Ratio is undefined

You can't divide by 0

:P
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
You can, with imaginary numbers if I'm not mistaken.
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Imaginary numbers are as real as unicorns eating llamas
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
What, unicorns are real. They live in the northern parts of Sweden, up in the mountains.

1/0 = i

You can't say otherwise.
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Do you live near Santa too?

1/0 is undefined
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Santa lives in Finland, Google it.

i can be basically everything and nothing and whatever you can think of in between, since the imaginary system is multi dimensional.

I could also say that 3/0 = 3i ;)
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
If you can imagine anything then anything is possible

Is iphone the result of phone/0???
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Well, nothing is possible. Because eggs.

Holy shi...
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
I like trains
[HTC Incredible S] DuffyBank:
You're headed towards hyperprobability drive
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Imaginary rainbows of pixie dust more like it
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Me too.

My thumb still thinks this display is huge...
[HTC Incredible S] Romansko:
It depends on your hand.
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
My thumb is shorter than the screen, so I've to move like everything around my thumb to reach where I need to reach x)

I wish I could feel 100% of my lips again :( like right now... Not in 4 months
[HTC Incredible S] james1196:
:P
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
This was a meaningful post, better quote it so we can have a great discussion!
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
lol Imaginary numbers are so whacked out :p

I actually did a bit of research for this project in math on it and I was like lol derp, so weird. But its actually useful. It allows you to solve unsolvable equations (ie root of a negative number). Its like how you can calculate current. Its like how imaginary current will still kill you like real current :p

Poop. My provider stinks at giving info. A week ago I asked a representative at a store and he said an upgrade would be 180. Then now I ask and they say thats just an early upgrade fee and that i have to pay some more for phone. Poop. just poop :mad:
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Imaginary numbers are screwed up.

I don't remember how to do stuff with them though :(
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Early upgrade? How old is your incs lol
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
Yes... I can't be the only one, right?

Come on guys, I can't be the only one :( ... right..?
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
I have not, I see it cause I am subscribed to incs general
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I'm subscribed to incs forums, not android dev or general separately
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
I have subscribed to the development and general forums etc of all my devices

then separate threads randomly
[HTC Incredible S] Splux:
I prefer to just subscribe to the thing directly, so now it says incs and nexus 5 and I cba caring more than so about it x)

I think I'm subscribed to cm11 for the incs :3