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[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] stevew84:
I'll be using Sprint for whichever device I select, but I have a few questions first.

The price difference is $100 between the two, with the s3 being more expensive, fine. But how are the colors on either device? I will be rooting of course, and going JB as soon as CM10 comes out for the s3. Also, the DPI is different, correct? I know the resolution is both the same, but the s3 is a little bit bigger than the Nexus.

After that, how is the call quality both microphone and speaker, along with the speaker for ringtones and things like that.

I guess it all comes down to preference, I haven't held either of these devices so I have no idea what I should do. I know the dev community is larger for the Nexus, because it's been out longer.

thanks!
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] woshiweili:
If you must get a phone right now, get the S3 just because it's newer. The Nexus has been out for about 7-8 months, you might as well wait for the next Nexus at this point. With that said, I would've advised my wife to wait for the next Nexus because I hate the fact that non-Nexus devices have to wait forever to get updates, if they get it at all.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Success100:
seriously not trying to be an ass, but there are at least 4-5 threads about this already.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] stevew84:
I guess you're right, I'm coming from the Nexus S, so either one is a vast improvement. Something about the hardware for the Nexus just seems a little too bland for me.

yea sorry about that, I didn't look.

I do have another question though, whats the difference between the carrier specific threads and the overall s3 threads? each one has their own dev page with different roms.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] master acehole:
hardware over software end of discussion besides the cm10 we have right now is pretty damn good lol
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] stevew84:
Does the carrier dev thread matter as to which ROM I download? there is a Sprint specific, then there is a whole other thread that doesn't even mention carriers.

Does Sprint have different specs for this phone? I keep seeing different reviews stating the phone has a dual-core CPU, but other reviews stating it has a quad-core. Can someone clarify.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
I was wondering if anyone else was having this issue.

I've charged my Nexus7 overnight on three occasions. Plugging it in before I went to bed (~1AMish) and getting it on my way to work (~8:30AMish). Out of those three times, on two of them, when I went to get my tablet the unit was powered off. I know for a fact that when I plugged it in, it was on, and no one touched it in the meantime.

The most recent occasion was this morning.

On all three occasions, the unit still had 40-50% battery life left.

On two other occasions, I've charged it during the day for a few hours, and it was fine.

Additionally, I've never had the unit turn itself off overnight when it wasn't plugged in. And I'm using the charger/cable that came with it.

Lastly, the first occasion was on the stock kernel/rom, and the second was on the motley kernel (but stock ROM).

So it seems like something is causing the unit to power itself off if it's on the charger for too long. This is concerning, because the only thing I can think of is that it's overheating and shutting down as a protection mechanism.

Any thoughts or ideas?
[Nexus 7 General] miketoasty:
Plugged mine in for the first time last night at 11:30. Slept till 8, hit the power button and everything was fine.

Basically, no issues here.
[Nexus 7 General] CrookedKnight:
Was it fully charged when you switched it back on? I ask because I shut mine down for the overnight charge last night (plugged into a laptop, not the wall - there's only one socket near the bed and my battery-sucking phone gets that juice), and when I woke up it had only gone from ~30% battery to 55%.
[Nexus 7 General] shojus:
I had this happen to me on the first unit I had... I was actually using stickmount to transfer some data and left the usb adapter plugged in for about an hour and when I picked it back up it was DEAD.... I could not get it to boot up at all until I did the recovery (power/volume) method and then everything was fine but I returned it anyways cause of a defective screen... I am now on my 3rd unit from Sam's Club and I think I might have a keeper...? (Knock on wood) :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
Yes, it was at 100%.

Keep in mind that charging via computer's USB port takes much longer. Maybe your laptop went into sleep mode and shut down power to the USB port?
[Nexus 7 General] CrookedKnight:
Nope, my fiance's phone was plugged into the same laptop and it was fully charged in the morning. And as a general rule, I've never known the computer to automatically sleep while on AC power, even when the screen is closed.
[Nexus 7 General] evonc:
Thank god i'm not the only one experiencing this. My nexus 7 always seems to turn off after I leave it overnight plugged in for charging. I thought it was a kernel issue but i've switched kernels and i still experience it. Still unsure as to what is causing it.
[Nexus 7 General] wiithepeng:
Same here. Its odd it only seems to be for an extended period of time. Also my battery was indeed fully charged. Should I exchange at Sam's?
[Nexus 7 General] evonc:
There is nothing else wrong with the tablet. I have a feeling it could be some sort of hardcoded feature where if it notices that you're plugged into the wall charger with 100% battery and the tablet is in deep sleep for a certain period of time, it automatically shuts down.
[Nexus 7 General] wiithepeng:
Ikr. First time it happened to me I was like wtf? It might to stop the 2 amp charger from overcharging? My unit is fine, I think the sound is just right. I might get that squaretrade warranty though.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
Well, I feel a little better that I'm not the only one with this "problem".

The question is, is this a "problem" or a "feature". I guess we won't know unless we ask Google/Asus (good luck getting that answer) or enough people respond saying that it happens to them too. But if people start saying it does not happen to them, it makes it more likely to be a problem....
[Nexus 7 General] redmonke255:
This happens to my phone due to overheating. The tablet does run hot when charging. See if there's a temperature logging app and run it overnight.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
It would be nice if it would just cut off the battery charge and run directly on A/C. But I guess I would rather have it power off than explode.
[Nexus 7 General] lyrad12:
isnt bad to charge it overnight like i believe from 1% to 100% chrge is like almost 3hrs fully chrged.. i just alarm myself for 3hrs to check if its fully chrged already then unplug it
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
True, it's not good to constantly charge the battery once it's full.

Most devices however have a built in charger kill switch once it reaches that point. Laptops for example will switch to A/C power and only start recharging the battery once the level drops to ~95%. I believe my phone does this as well (SGS2).

I guess I'm OK with it turning itself off, assuming that it really is a safety feature. My main concern was something was wrong. It would have been nice if they mentioned this in the 100pg Nexus Guide eBook though :D.
[Nexus 7 General] wiithepeng:
Ikr, such a thick guide
[Nexus 7 General] Toys Samurai:
I want to add my own observation -- mine was almost fully charged, I plugged it to my computer's USB, turned the screen off, walked away. A couple hours later, the Nexus 7 was turned off. But I was shocked to find that, pressing the power button couldn't turn it on. The first thought came into my mind was that my computer did not charge the Nexus 7 and the battery ended up completely drained. So, I plugged it to the wall charger, left it on for a day. 1 day later, I tried to turn it on again. No, it didn't work. I was panic and decided to Google about how to reset and checked if I could wipe it and sent it back for a replacement. I found that pressing the power, vol up/down button at the same time can force a reboot. I tried that and bingo, it booted into the bootloader. Before I wiped, I decided to try to boot back to the Android OS. Surprisingly, that worked. I was happy and decided to ignore this incident. Then, today, it happened again. This time, I immediately used the power + vol up/down trick to reboot, and that booted me right back into Jelly Bean. I checked the battery status and it's fully charged, which meant my computer was charging it all along. For some reasons, the Nexus 7 would just turn off itself. And, in my case, pressing the power button alone would not reboot it.
[Nexus 7 General] khaytsus:
Sounds like to me that it's hard locking, not "powering off", and you're forcing a reboot. Long-press of the Power button should do the same thing.
[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
I can't say I have much to offer in regards to this issue, but am I correct with my observation that everybody experiencing this issue has experienced it while their N7 was plugged into a computer of some sort for an extended period of time? Has anybody had this happen when plugged straight into the wall outlet?
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
Here's another update with an interesting 'twist' since my last post.

I've charged it twice in the meantime. Once was, again, overnight, and I woke up to find it powered off. A simple "on" press brought it back on.

However, on Saturday, I used it heavily and was down to about 40%, so I plugged it in around 11AM. I meant to grab it around 3PM when I went out, but forgot about it. Got home late, and went to look at it at about 11PM (12 hours later). It was charged to 100%, running off the A/C power, and still on.

This is weird, because if I leave it plugged in "overnight" for 8 hours, it will almost always turn off sometime before I grab it. But when left plugged in during the day for 12 hours, it stayed on. I wonder if it handled the situation different based on the time of the day???
[Nexus 7 General] Toys Samurai:
I did try long-pressing, but it did not work. I pressed a ridiculously long time. For a moment, I thought my power button was broken.

---------- Post added at 11:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:28 AM ----------

I called support yesterday. They wanted me to reset it back to stock and see if the problem persists. Since I got nothing important in the Nexus 7, I reset it back to stock. I left it charged on my computer's USB last night and this morning, it is still "on". However, I am not sure if this is just pure luck, because I only experienced the problem twice before.
[Nexus 7 General] ghost-5:
I have never used the charger that came with it until last night. At 10 pm last night I put it on charge with about 40% battery in it. Took it off charge at 4 am and have just started to use it at 5 pm.the tablet had switched itself off but I do have a fully charged battery. I'll keep my on it and set of it happens again.
[Nexus 7 General] johnzm:
i think my nexus 7 gets so hot, that it suspends charging. noticed this for the second time last night. man does it get hot. i think the screen defaults to on, when you plug the charger in, and that contributes to the heat.

anyways i noticed when it gets that hot, charging never makes it to 100%. the battery history actually flat lines at whatever percentage it makes it to. im gonna try tonight to plug in the charger, then flip the screen off and see how it works out.
[Nexus 7 General] khaytsus:
My Nexus 7 stays cold as ice while it's charging. I've checked it several times while charging in the past and it's always cold.
[Nexus 7 General] lyrad12:
mine never get hot when charging, it only gets hot when im using it for a long time like playing games but while charging its not
[Nexus 7 General] timwb:
I noticed a similar issue as soon as I got mine(yesterday afternoon),since the battery was nearly flat when I first booted it. What I noticed was that if I let my nexus power the screen off while plugged into mains and press power button to wake it, its no longer charging. I have to replug the cable for it to resume. Last night I powered it off and connected to mains saw the charging animation and left it. This morning i turned it on and found the battery gauge had barely increased. In short it only charges constantly while the screen is on!

Update: I gave the cable a gentle press downwards, which promoted it to start charging again (without replugging ) and went out. I just came back in and checked it. It HAS charged while I was out, it went from 70 to 100 and the icon implied it was still on mains after over 3 and half hours, which is an improvement. So it appears it may be an issue with the socket.
[Nexus 7 General] ikn0wagh0st:
I've never charged mine on the computer, but I cannot remember a morning where my nexus stayed on after a night of charging. I too would like to know whether or not this is a defect or a "safety feature".
[Nexus 7 General] Toys Samurai:
2 nights and the problem still doesn't come back. Assuming it does fix the problem, I can only think up of 2 possible causes:

Something wrong with the way how it's rooted (I used Nexus Root Toolkit v1.5.2)

An app I used is causing the problem (the problem did not start until after I installed StickMount)
[Nexus 7 General] khaytsus:
My N7 hasn't turned off charging yet, and I charge it nightly. Stock charger and cable, although I've got to get a longer cable.....
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
The last two times I charged mine overnight (from 40% and from 60% respectively), even on the charger for 7-8 hours, it did NOT turn off. So this is even more weird.
[Nexus 7 General] ximile:
I had the same problem today while using stickmount. I lefted it plugged in and the screen turned off, i tried to turn it back on by pressing the power button but no dice. I held the power button down for ~10sec and the boot screen popped up. Was freaking me out a bit, it then froze on the google logo and i reset it again now everything is back to normal. I think stickmount had something to do with it. BTW what file system are you using on your flash drive with stickmount (i have NTFS) i don' tknow if it matters much but curious.
[Nexus 7 General] timwb:
Ok, it appears it was my cable (was using the one from my phone) I used the cable and adapter from the box and have had no probs now.

As regards those charging from laptops, it could be the usb power output. I tried connecting mine to a multi port usb mains adapter and it didn't even register as charging. It appears (unlike a phone) the nexus needs the full 5v output, which may be split between the ports on a laptop, or the ports are being underpowered due to power management when the laptop is idle?
[Nexus 7 General] LauraSakura:
mine hasn't shut off, but it wasn't charging when I tried a non-stock cable. I also couldn't get my pc to recognize it without the stock cable. That is odd to me since my other cords work fine with my other android devices

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[Nexus 7 General] khaytsus:
I had this happen for the first time this morning, when I flipped my cover open I found a large "charging" animation showing, so I hit the power button and it powered up. Last night I was at 50%, this morning... 45%. Doh.

Then I realized that I had accidentally plugged the N7 into my Galaxy Note charger instead of the Nexus 7 charger. The Note charger charges my Note at 1A, so not sure why it would matter, but makes me wonder.

And no, it was not heat, battery widget didn't show any excessive heat before it powered off, etc... Oh well.
[Nexus 7 General] kieso:
I believe our tablets have the SOD (sleep.of.death). I've seen this as a common problem on custom roms. Sometimes you can't see the tablet come back on until the battery dies then plug in the charger and power on. Leaving a USB device plugged in while in sleep mode was well known for instantanly causing SOD on custom roms. Google needs to know about this because too many SOD's will cause bad blocks.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
I haven't seen anyone not be able to reboot their tablet by holding down the power button for a while.
[Nexus 7 General] kieso:
Its still SOD. I read in another thread where a couple people had to wait 24 hours or so then plug it in to get it to turn back on. Don't take this lightly because bad blocks can screw you for future updates or custom Roms installing. I've seen it on other tablets.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
I'll take your word on the 24 hour issue, though I haven't seen it reported myself. However I find the "bad block" issue highly unlikely to cause such an extreme end result. While a crash or lockup can certainly cause pending writes to fail, and thus only partially write out fragmented data, the partitions in Android are mounted in a way that should prevent this affecting the core OS.

/system for example is mounted RO (by default). While you can, with root, remount it as RW, this is generally only done temporarily when/if you need to modify that part of the filesystem. This is very infrequent.

Anything that gets screwed up in /sdcard could easily get wiped as a worst case scenario.

And even if you did screw up /system, you could always flash it clean.
[Nexus 7 General] kieso:
Bad blocks will affect partitions. Using the normal shutdown does it in a safe way but when a SOD occurs certain system processes can be running and that is where the possible bad blocks can occur. System files are read only to the user on stock Roms but....the OS itself does write to these constantly. I'm not in any way trying to start an argument just passing on information I've learned over the years. If part of your system partition gets enough bad blocks there is no way to flash it clean. A bad block is marked bad and stays that way. Android has given us no way to repair them yet.
[Nexus 7 General] donkeykong0:
I've had the same issues intermittently. Had it plugged in all night and waking up with it off and at 45%. Stock, not rooted. I might have been charging it with my phone charger when it happened, can't remember.
[Nexus 7 General] kieso:
I think but not sure there is a wakelock app to help prevent this. I just shut mine down if its going to be a long time before next use.
[Nexus 7 General] khaytsus:
Not to burst any bubbles here, but there's an inherent wakelock when charging. So there's no sleep of death while charging. This can only happen when asleep and off the charger.

My Nook Color suffered from it badly for a long time on CM7 if wifi was left on.
[Nexus 7 General] DarkRyoushii:
Checking in to this thread. Mine has been doing it all day just randomly pulling it out of my bag to find it powered off. Not that big of a deal but I did get this for fast access to internet and I'd rather it worked in full. I thought it was the kernel i was running as it incorperates GPU overclock but even with no GPU OC it still does it on charge. 2 times in 10 minutes before.
[Nexus 7 General] ManMOuntain:
I wasn't able to power my tablet back on via pressing the power button 30+ seconds, it was completely dead after about an hours use. I'm guessing I had a faulty battery, I simply couldn't get a charge into the tablet at all, it was at 20% charge or thereabouts when first powered on and when that drained that was all the life I got out of it. I returned it for a refund the day after and ordered from another retailer.

My new tablet arrives tomorrow and fingers crossed this one is fine.
[Nexus 7 General] timwb:
Well I wasn't having the 'less battery after charging' and getting warm issue til today. What was different? I didn't use the supplied cable to charge it last night. There seems to be something different about that cable, since some have reported their computer only detecting the nexus when connected with the supplied cable.
[Nexus 7 General] khaytsus:
I don't use the (entirely too short) stock cable but do use the charger. No problems unless I use the wrong charger for me.
[Nexus 7 General] Radioslave:
I've actually had this problem when not charging as well. It did it last night when it was charging but i've had it just go to the 'Power Off' screen while im using it or watching a movie without the charger.

I have to say it's probably something app related. It didn't do it until about a week ago and i've had it since launch. I am Rooted and do have Stickmount but havn't gotten the chance to use it yet.
[Nexus 7 General] DaF1974:
I have the same problem. My Nexus 7 turns itself off seemingly randomly. I'm using the original charger but a 2m USB extension cable. It also happens when using a different 2A charger or another 3m cable. Sometimes it's off in the morning, sometimes when I take it out if my bag or when I come home even when it's not charging. It happens about every second day or so. It turned itself off earlier today with about 40% battery left. It wasn't hot nor actively used. Turning it on means that I have to press the power button for about 30s.

I'm on Paul O'Brien's MoDaCo Jr6 rom and Trinity's latest kernel. I even underclock it to 1GHz as it is fast enough like that and lasts longer.

The Nexus 7 isn't officially available in Ireland yet. PC World offered it via a reservation theoguh boards.ie so I don't quite know how to get a replacement at this time if this is the suggested solution.
[Nexus 7 General] drewstiff:
Strangely I haven't had the problem all you folks have had, but I do have an issue whereby my Nexus7 is going in and coming out of Airplane Mode by itself.

When I was recently on a flight with my tablet in flight mode, I noticed towards the end of the flight that it was somehow now not in flight mode. At the time I thought it was very odd and I must just be mistaked. Since then however, on two occasions I have had my Nexus7 on charge overnight whilst NOT in flight mode only to wake it in the morning to find airplane mode turned ON. This makes me think that maybe I didn't imagine the first scenario!

I know it's kinda off-topic when the thread is about SOD and the like but thought it was related and wanted to see if anyone else had this at all?
[Nexus 7 General] ybryany:
Mine turns itself off after 30minutes or so of idle

Hey guys, I'm having the same problem. I got my nexus 7, rooted it and nothing else (installed a bunch of apps) and it ran fine for a few weeks. Then I wanted to try out the Trinity kernel so I installed clockwork recovery, did a nandroid backup, flashed the alpha 63d trinity, installed setCPU, overclocked to 1.6ghz and ran a few benchmarks where it rebooted. So I underclocked to 1.1ghz and I wanted to see how much more battery life I got when I noticed it would crash periodically, even underclocked...

So I reverted to my nandroid backup and I thought everything would be fine. Well that's when I started noticing it would power off after about 30 minutes of not using it. It hasn't crashed however; just does a system shutdown. I've even been lucky enough to catch it during the shutdown, it looks like a normal shutdown. I've pulled the debuglogs and have logcat running now, hoping to capture the event when it happens. I'll keep you guys updated in what I fine.....

I'm suspecting that something with clockwork might have changed some settings since my nandroid backup still included clockwork installed. I haven't tried uninstalling clockwork, but I don't think it will matter since my recovery is now clockwork....
[Nexus 7 General] ybryany:
@DaF1974 I must have missed your post... i'm having the exact same issue....
[Nexus 7 General] Mwinggg:
i think it is a software issue

my galaxy nexus used to have this exact same problem when i got it, stock rom locked and unrooted 4.01, since 4.04 never happened again
[Nexus 7 General] gmaskew:
I have the same issue and actually I caught it last night. I put it on charge (stock AC charger and cable) around 1.30AM and at around 2.30 I woke to the room being lit up with the screen showing the big white battery charging icon in the middle.

Stock ROM but unlocked and rooted with CWM, and also have stickmount installed.

Edit: Also should mention this has only happened 2 or 3 times since I got the tablet 3 weeks ago, every other time I charge overnight it's in standby the next morning.