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[Desire HD General] derTom_Germany:
Facebook HTC DACH (Germany, Austria, Switzerland) posted following.

Vielen Dank für Euer zahlreiches Feedback!

Das Desire HD wird kein Update auf Ice Cream Sandwich erhalten.

Wie wir hier auf Facebook und an anderen Stellen im Netz erfahren haben, stößt diese Entscheidung bei Euch auf keine Gegenliebe.

Nach intensiven Tests sind wir zu dem Entschluss gekommen, dass die aktuelle Version von HTC Sense mit Android Euch die bestmögliche „User Experience“ auf dem HTC Desire HD bietet. Wenn wir neue Softwareversionen in Betracht ziehen, gibt es eine Vielzahl an Faktoren, die dabei berücksichtigt werden müssen. Ausschlaggebend für uns ist Eure optimale "User Experience" mit unserem Gerät, die das DHD mit ICS aus unserer Sicht nicht sonderlich steigert.

Es kommt es im Zuge der Zeit vor, das ältere Modelle bei aktuellen Software-Updates nicht mehr berücksichtigt werden. Das ist aber generell bei technischen Geräten nicht unüblich, denn dieser Markt ist äußerst schnelllebig.

Trotzdem hoffen wir, dass Ihr uns weiterhin die Treue haltet und Spaß mit unseren Geräten habt. Denn es erwartet uns eine spannende Zeit - natürlich nur gemeinsam mit Euch!

Wir entschuldigen uns für alle Unannehmlichkeiten.

Vielen Dank & liebe Grüße!

--------------TRANSLATED----------------

Many thanks for your numerous feedback!

The Desire HD won't get any update on Ice cream sandwich. (Translation of official HTC Blog Entry removed)

As we have learned here on Facebook and in other places in the net, this decision doesn't meet with any requited love among you.

It happens, this in the course of the time older models aren't taken into account at current software updates any more. Generally, however, this isn't not usual at a technical equipment because this market is extremely fast-moving.

We nevertheless hope that you furthermore remain faithful to us and have fun with our equipment. Because it expects us of course only together with you a thrilling time!

We apologize for all trouble.

Many thanks & kind greetings!
[Desire HD General] amf66:
+1 towards going for the sources. It's much more realistic for them to give us the drivers and kernel source than the entire ROM.
[Desire HD General] MadMax:
I will edit it when I get home. I put the from because I got the idea from the Desire and the Gingerbread update. I am not asking for a sense from, but pure ICS
[Desire HD General] MoveJockey:
HTC don't publish any sources, kernels or anything

The hope is gone. HTC ignored all people who want the work for ics. A man from the company answered my questions which I post on the xda page.

So, people who want sign the petition they don't need to do it. I hate now the company and I will bought a apple product in the future.

greetz

MoveJockey
[Desire HD General] scorpio09:
Why we should consider the above so called standard reply from HTC ? The petition will actually show the number of unhappy customers and will put some pressure on HTC. So I think we should carry on further and should not let this thing cool down.

BTW,I love android and will look forward to buy a Nexus instead of CrApple.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Alright people. Ricc@rd asked me to create threads regarding our petition in other forums since this issue does not only affect us, the dhd users, but all htc customers - whether it be now or in the future.

First off, I don't care to hear from negativists, nihilists and so forth. If you don't have anything constructive to say, please refrain from quoting me / answering me. Thank you.

Second, there is loads of talent here in xda and I do believe we can accomplish something as minor as it may be, with that said:

The business decision from htc is understandable and it is common practice, which does not necesarily make it right. They are a corporation looking at numbers. The confusion among different htc branches is as well, it tends to happen within any business and more so with one as large as htc.

The answers we are receiving is common practice in any call center. It is futile to be talking to them - whether it be chat, phone, email, blogs, etc.

1- we need at least 500,000 - 1,000,000 signatures to create a small impact.

2- we need to centralize our communication if we are to create threads and what nots. Perhaps someone can create a web page with a nice flash intro?

3- keep on doing what you are doing.

What I need:

A summary of:

1- what htc promised and what they are saying now.

1.1- why they say it won't work. I did read an explanation from...... I believe it was darunion about certain components being different - I believe I just digressed.

2- what is it that we need. Just the kernel? The source? What? The more we ask for, the better. That way they can meet us halfway.

The more info I am given - coherent info please - the better. Once I have that, I'll make a draft, post it here for any suggestions and or corrections.

3- anything else I may have overlooked.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] MadMax:
Sent you a PM.
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
Read and replied.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
imo, it would be better to just ask them to release the kernel source rather than asking them to release ICS as someone mentioned above because they've already answered the question that they won't release "ICS with Sense 3.6" so why not move forward and ask them straight to the point about the kernel source. Sure they haven't replied to this at all yet and i don't see any argument that HTC can make in releasing the source.

As the guy said above, it is the case for all the HTC users and not us because right now it's us and in the future it'll be them...
[Desire HD General] marl30:
Since it seems like they have made their minds up, the best it seem we can hope for is that they release the source to the community devs. Even if they don't, I trust the devs here will be working hard at making it possible to have a 100% working ICS rom, so all hope is not lost.
[Desire HD General] slicingtaco:
Pweettyyy please, HTC.
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
This should be in the comments section when posting the petition lolz...
[Desire HD General] The Mighty Thor:
Signed, may want to go back and proof read though, but the message is clear. Thanks
[Desire HD General] iridium21:
Just had a look at the petition - nearly 5000 signatures!
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
We are getting so many signatures now :). Soon HTC will be forced to give us ICS :thumbup:
[Desire HD General] Gusta_HR:
HTC Confirms No Ice Cream Sandwich For the Desire HD

http://androidheadlines.com/2012/07...-no-ice-cream-sandwich-for-the-desire-hd.html

Why do you think HTC will care about for 2 years old device?
[Desire HD General] MoveJockey:
Anonymous will join them! hopefully!
[Desire HD General] 56kbs:
Signed, very sad to see this, makes me want to move from HTC when I can get a new phone
[Desire HD General] MadMax:
43 mins till our petition is on the portal
[Desire HD General] MacWell:
Today the HTC marketing manager in the Netherlands posted a tweet to help us dutch DHD users with a solution to this problem.

He is planning(if he can find a company that wants to help set this up) to make a DHD2OneX promotion.

Nothing is official jet, but the plan is to make DHD users trade in their phone for a One X.

Off-course we will have to pay for the One X but we get a discount on it.

It would be nice if that works and stays afordable, still it is just be a way to get the DHD users "happy" again.

You might thing "Why share this on an international forum, I dont live in The Netherlands", but you might just get a similar deal like this.

It was his(the HTC marketing manager) idea to plan this, so maybe you can convince the marketing manager for HTC in your country to do the same!

(I still want the RUU for this phone but still)
[Desire HD General] l33ch0r:
You really think this will happen? Sounds nice, but i doubt it'll ever happen.

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[Desire HD General] keeycheng:
Done....really hope that HTC will give us ICS...
[Desire HD General] icyeye:
well... i am from O2x forum but... i can imagine how u feel so.. u got all mine support. GL :good:
[Desire HD General] AMIR-TUTU:
dont belive this buddy !!
[Desire HD General] Sebianoti:
Personally i couldn't care less about this, but when i look back at the fact that i was a HTC Desire HD owner and HTC promised free updates for the first 2 years after the phone comes out really makes me mad and frustrated.

Signed.
[Desire HD General] brad808:
Let's remember that the desire hd wasn't 2 years old when ics was released. Just because they are ridiculously slow it seems like we are asking for them to support us for years.

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD General] GuyInTheCorner:
Starting A's campaign on Twitter, user the hashtag #giveusICS to show your support!
[Desire HD General] c5satellite2:
2 years of updates, and ICS by August.

ICS cancelled due to performance issues(what about TBOLT same hardware level), and GB is the best for our device.

Promises, promises.....lies, lies.

Shame, shame on HTC
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=29223865

Page 21

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] girakshay:
Shame on HTC, Sony did a better job in releasing ICS for most of thier devices which run on little lower config than DHD/Inspire 4G. If HTC has problem in releasing ICS let them release kernel and libs rest will be taken by XDA dev's they do a better job in releasing SW and tweaking it's performance.
[Desire HD General] AnumEndzeit:
if you ask me id rather get the discount, get the One X, then sell it (kijiji) for $400+ and get a brand new nexus :D
[Desire HD General] Sully6789:
Former Inspire owner showing some love for my DHD brothers, and just signed the petition. Good luck fellas. Hopefully HTC sees the value in customer retention, and shows the love too. :beer:
[Desire HD General] mynameis123:
Great Idea

Already signed the petition, I reckon its a great idea, I just hope HTC will be honorable and make the Pure Android release promptly. Thanks OP :)
[Desire HD General] Misterowl:
Signed the petition and shared it with others. My social networks and stuff. Everyone stay strong and we will follow through. YAY we got featured by XDA also. Who cares what others say. HOORAH for DESIRE HD users
[Desire HD General] EvilDeadFan:
Signed
[Desire HD General] Pegajoso:
Signed

I have a Inspire.. but its the same xD :good:
[Desire HD General] XL3N7:
Actually you should care. Now that Jellybean is out, HTC will release new phones to the market. They will probably release HTC One BS or something similar with exactly identical specs to your One X, with slightly smaller screen, which will run JB out of the box. You will wait for months for your JB update and when the next version of android comes out your device, if you still have it will be unable to handle it, unlike the One BS.
[Desire HD General] mayurh:
signed also

but i highly doubt they will give a pure android rom, they didnt do it for the desire also

lets hope they give the rom/ruu like they did for the desire, and the kernel sources and let whoever is willing to try ics do it themselves,.
[Desire HD General] K.Chan:
signed

looking back at the HTC statements

"After extensive testing, we’ve determined that the current version of HTC Sense with Android provides customers with the best experience on the HTC Desire HD. When we consider new versions of software, we weigh a number of factors, but

ultimately the customer experience on the product is the deciding factor

. We apologize for any confusion this change may have caused our customers"

Well HTC let me teach you some marketing 101, customer experience is determine by

us

, the

CUSTOMER

, not by some of your executives who sit behind locked door whom don't understand how the world is changing right now :eek:

You think by offering some sort of trade in deal with make us tap into your one series and help boost your sales? NO! we will not get fool by your tricks!

By breaking promise again and again, it show that HTC do not care about their customer expectation, which is a great factor contribute to the "customer experience",

HTC well done you have once again damaging your Brand Image and thus Brand Equity

.

I think just starting the petition is not enough, I think we should start a global Marketing/ PR campaign against the lame HTC, showing the world how a job well done HTC have been doing on breaking their promise! :good:
[Desire HD General] c5satellite2:
If anyone has any connections to the mass media, gizmodo, engadget, pc mag, CNET or others, please try to get this some additional attention. We need the mass media sites to run this and really put pressure on HTC.
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
But if they only give us the kernel, will sense Roms work or only aosp/aokp?
[Desire HD General] StellaDel:
Very disappointed in HTC and their decision, personally it only confirms to me that firstly I will not be getting another HTC device for a very long time. Secondly Android is fragmenting rapidly and I’d rather go down the path of convergence and Windows 8.
[Desire HD General] KeshavJave:
Htc dhd ics

Petition signed and no donation required. Common HTC!!
[Desire HD General] ricc@rd:
when will you edit the text of the petition then? :)
[Desire HD General] dt2158:
But this way you support HTC by buying a new phone?!?!?

They should see their mistake in their sales volume..
[Desire HD General] Negerus:
I think the Petition is a great Idea. Allready signed it.:D But I don't think HTC wants to help us. So maybe they will just ignore the Petition. I'm very upset threating the customer like that. Force him to buy a new phone.
[Desire HD General] trackattaker:
Sure, it would be awesome to get even a pure ICS official update at this time. But we need to fight for the promised update because it was promised to us. The story with the hardware not being good enough is, as we and HTC know, bulls**t. It's just a matter of principles, don't promise something and then turn around giving unplausible excuses.
[Desire HD General] KlumpeStumpen:
Signed it, hate HTC so much for this.
[Desire HD General] Zite747:
6001 signatures !!!! Wohoooo!!!
[Desire HD General] Nece228:
Damn even galaxy s which is older device got value pack and even ics leak, htc should reconsider what they did
[Desire HD General] mynameis123:
The number is 6105 and growing!

The number is 6105 and growing!
[Desire HD General] iridium21:
I think the main thing that needs changing is the fact that the Desire didn't get a pure AOSP ROM - it got Gingerbread with most of Sense.
[Desire HD General] download2010:
definitely fully support !! One V also can eat ICS even with lesser RAM... how come desire HD cannot ?
[Desire HD General] iridium21:
Something like:
[Desire HD General] t-bon3:
HTC need to understand that their decision will lose them sales. If 100,000 people decide not to buy a one series phone because of this cancellation then they have made the wrong choice, simple as that

They believe more people will be disappointed by the update than are grateful for the new version.
[Desire HD General] ricc@rd:
Ok this is definitely a better description for the petition! I would only add to release at least kernel sources for developers if they don't want to release any update. That would be the easiest possibility for them, but it's everything we need!!
[Desire HD General] iridium21:
"release us kernel" -> "release the kernel" maybe???

Other than that, spot on. Thank you :good:

---------- Post added at 10:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:34 AM ----------

LOL, reading the HTC UK Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/htcuk), it seems that they're not happy with a guy who's posting the link to the petition! Looks like we're getting them rattled :D
[Desire HD General] ricc@rd:
yes I meant that!! corrected ;)

sorry for the mistake :o
[Desire HD General] iridium21:
No worries. Thank you! :good:
[Desire HD General] ljnecesito:
I will not buy another htc phone again.
[Desire HD General] Nooblade:
I've posted the link on HTC, HTC UK and HTC India facebook pages and as a comment on Google+ too.

HTC UK replied and asked me to send them a PM which I've done.

I'll let you know if something interesting happens.

;)
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
they sent you pm to shut u up
[Desire HD General] Madaz2:
that's heaps well written man very concise and no capitols yelling at them we want we want
[Desire HD General] Fio.hr:
I also doubt that I will buy another HTC device if this doesn't get sorted out. I also sent an email to HTC support and I think that everyone who signed the petition should also send an email to their support. Make them notice us, spam their inbox! (or maybe they have filter for emails which contain "Desire HD" XD)

I also got a nice generic response.
[Desire HD General] Madaz2:
personally i'm not going to abandon them for failing to upgrade my DHD they make a great phone and at the end of the day they have shareholders they have to try and keep happy also

honestly if you were a shareholder would you want your cutting edge phone company to keep developing for old tech or concentrate on the next 4g phone that might be quad core

enough food for thought but there is a lot of childish people ranting in this thread

BTW look in the JellyTime thread they will have a working cam very soon albeit no Sense
[Desire HD General] robinmobile:
allrytie... for dutch dhd'ers there might come something from this guy #DHD2OneX .. search in twitter and say your desire....
[Desire HD General] timpilcher:
If I were an HTC shareholder, I'd expect the company decision makers to NOT ****-up the company's reputation with a major chunk of the user base, resulting in the total public thrashing of the company on Facebook, Twitter and in the tech media....

But that's just me....
[Desire HD General] Madaz2:
for how ever many signed that petition there is over 10 dhd users that don't even know about it

so at a guess over 70,000 dhd users don't even care there is a petition asking for ICS and don't even know that was meant to be their next upgrade so long as their phone makes calls and can txt their mate when they're drunk they just don't care

THATS what everyone has to realise and how many people voted twice or more or dont even have a dhd any more yet in the spirit of GNU want them to release to us their work
[Desire HD General] Moscow_97:
Me too :D
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
SO the petition which is being signed by users, would HTC be able to read the comments as well or only the amount of petitions that are signed?
[Desire HD General] ukjohnd:
Rather liked the DesireHD esp with the ICS the excellent xdadevelopers put together.

Was thinking of upgrading to the rather pretty OneX but I'm thinking my days with HTC are numbered, might be time to go with the nexus.
[Desire HD General] evilking76:
No thank's, no pay for petition!!! :mad:
[Desire HD General] GuyInTheCorner:
Use the hashtag #GiveUsICS on Twitter and @ mention HTC, let's see if we can get it trending (our already get HTC to notice it :)
[Desire HD General] ukjohnd:
:confused:

You don't need to pay, once you've signed it you're given a message

below which is a request for donations.
[Desire HD General] adanoss:
HTC makes great phones and unwise business decisions. This saddens me...
[Desire HD General] thecasimir:
petition signed
[Desire HD General] mrjonnyrock:
/start rant I have had two HTC phones, Desire & Desire HD, only after coming here to these forms and installing ROMs, created by some skilled little elves, were these phones worth anything. Don't want to start thanking people because there are so many. But the CM team are brilliant :cool:. I will never buy or trust HTC again ever. they can keep their crap. /end rant

Will thread have any effect or change anything.....:rolleyes:

but good on you guys for tryin...
[Desire HD General] ilotas:
Petition Signend

Petition signened from me too. Let's hope something good will come out
[Desire HD General] jmenc:
Signed too

Also a more sign from here. Let's see if HTC want to hear us.
[Desire HD General] MadMax:
Hey everyone, sorry I did nit update it last night, my first day at work was interesting because of something that happened. As a cashier, I never expected to be running around in water, in the store. So because of that I was way to tired to anything when I got home. Give me some time because I am finishing summer school right now
[Desire HD General] Muikkuman:
We now have a working full sense 4.0 which is running smoothly and they say HTC Desire HD can't handle sense 3.6? What a joke.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD
[Desire HD General] WeThePeople13:
I have a Rezound but I will sign it for you. I feel your pain.
[Desire HD General] bobee:
Demand ICS

To put things into perspective for HTC I made a meme...
[Desire HD General] iridium21:
So, any reply?
[Desire HD General] Teichopsia:
@max63followed by more numbers, Pm'ed you.

@ricc@rd, you plagiarist you - no worries, it's ok.

Posted the xda article hosted on the portal in the htc inspire facebook page. A few unhappy people there.

Sent from a dream.
[Desire HD General] maddog486:
signed
[Desire HD General] DroidRunner:
That's the success kid meme. Wrong context.
[Desire HD General] MadMax:
8k people that's great, I went to bed it was at 5700 some, and now we are 8k. Thanks everyone
[Desire HD General] bobee:
It will be when we (hopefully) get ICS; We demanded it and we got it. ;)
[Desire HD General] aidinvm_ultimate:
I also share this petition on persian forums, so hopefully we can gather much more signs here :)
[Desire HD General] whiperhack:
HTC Lied

I bet that HTC didn't even build the ICS for DHD. They were false declarations and must be sued. My soul now is ruined. (This is just for the judge. I'm cool. :D)
[Desire HD General] ricc@rd:
ahah :p :D

;)
[Desire HD General] iridium21:
Hmm, from what I've been reading over on the HTC UK Facebook page, they've now started banning people who post there asking about the ICS update. Bit of a bad show on HTC's part if you ask me. If I had a Facebook account, I'd join in...

EDIT: Ah, it turns out that one of the HTC UK Facebook helpers has admitted to trolling people about the DHD ICS update - but get this, the guy who brought this to everyone's attention has been banned and not the helper.

Crazy place Facebook, glad I don't bother!
[Desire HD General] kaleun:
Would be of great help mate :)
[Desire HD General] alge30:
Done!
[Desire HD General] NFNP:
I dont blaim HTC their devices are really good and a VERY alternative against the wormed fruit ....:D.

But as every fan & member I wish they release at least an RUU version.

That's why I signed for.

Thx

Device : DHD with LC's Ice Cold S. 8.4. Work like a charm
[Desire HD General] umesswitme:
Signed, I hope HTC realises the magnitude of their decisions.
[Desire HD General] slicingtaco:
Yes, atleast an RUU so our hard-working developers have something to work off of.:D
[Desire HD General] evronetwork:
I signed and also I signed my girlfriend to this(she has the same phone)

C'mon we need the ics :( ..or the proprietary drivers and kernel 3.0 source to have ICS working smooth and stable
[Desire HD General] l33ch0r:
Ain't running that smooth. And it's still alpha so it's buggy

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[Desire HD General] cole_himself:
It's actually fairly smooth for a port. Keep in mind that it was ported from a closed source. And it is still as amazing as it is. You can't expect it to be bug free when the port was not open. Either way, LC, existz, and others have done an exemplary job at getting ICS on the DHD. It can and must likely will run Sense 4 just fine.
[Desire HD General] A7madY911:
DONE! :good:
[Desire HD General] AnumEndzeit:
holy f**k, goal of 2000 and we overshoot it to a little over 8,500? Damn! Lets keep going. At this rate; if htc would get a profit of $300 (

at least

) they're losing about $2,550,000. Are they bruised? A little. Now lets go for the bone >:D