yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy General] corrinti:
Well, do you still have CWM available?

I just refomatted my data and cache back to ext3 with bottmenu>tools and restored data from nandroid backup

No wipes required
[Defy General] irekd:
Why did you do it? Have you observed any disadvantages related to using ext4?
[Defy General] ktmbikerman:
I must say, the switch to ext4 is proving to be very good for me. Everything is working a lot faster and smoother.

The procedure I followed to make the change:

1. Boot into Recovery and do an advanced backup of data only

2. Boot into Bootmenu and format ext4 partition under Tools

3. Go back into Recovery and advance restore data only.

4. Reboot

5. Check if /data is using ext4 by using the method shown a few posts ago
[Defy General] darshanonline:
Anyone got cm file manager woking?

I am getting error - Unable to gain required privileges to function

And it crashes.
[Defy General] corrinti:
My observations were exactly the same as ktmbikerman, but decided to switch back because of problems some other users have, not only in this thread. But the main reason was I wanted to check if I can switch back as some reported total data corruption when formatting to ext3 again :D
[Defy General] AlexGraves:
do you mean that data.ext3.tar can be restored onto ext4 but not vice versa?

currently i am also on ext4 and feeling a better experience regarding speed, which i hope it's not just another placebo effect ... :D
[Defy General] corrinti:
Can be restored both ways, as it restores data, not file system image, but some ppl here had to start with sbf after such a trial. Something is not stable
[Defy General] balllee:
yes .now i have data and cache in ext3 by tools in bootmenu.i can not get back to cm7.i can not also get my moto official recovery ,when i press both power and vol- botton i just get a M logo.

am i lost it？

someone said that only after wiping by moto recovery can i get back to cm7
[Defy General] darshanonline:
C'mon u intelligent guys.. help me.
[Defy General] corrinti:
And you are on 09/11 build, aren't you. Then do it an intelligent way - stop the app, wipe its data and try again
[Defy General] Sleepy!:
After data wipe,

Just change the mode from Root access to Safe mode or User prompt mode in settings.

Use prompt mode to access data/system etc.
[Defy General] docneo99:
no imei no. in latest nightly

can anyone confirm this?

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after few restarts...got imei no. back
[Defy General] pupiloalpha:
MOVING Files FROM DCIM

Camera Files don't move from DCIM folder with CMFileManager...

Any one know about this?

Great job folks
[Defy General] krestian:
Would you care to elaborate on what it means to keep switching the baseband? I have also cleaned my APNs and switched forth and back between two different basebands for my region, but even on the right baseband for my provider, I'm still having the spurious data drop-outs. Which would not be so serious, if they weren't also coupled to a very high battery drain when they happen (from about 4% / hr normally to over 10% / hr)...

I would really appreciate that. TIA...
[Defy General] cyrusct82:
Have you tried to make or receive a phone call. Because for me when it's happening this also phone is down only reset solves the problem.Changing the baseband solves only temporarily.
[Defy General] nostupidthing:
there's no built-in program capable of playing back the 3gpp files recorded by the built-in sound recorder...? can't use file manager to open the file,..
[Defy General] irekd:
Confirmed. The same behaviour, but it's not only since 11/9. In a few previous builds it was the same. Perhaps the bug has not been improved since the beginning of CMX Defy development.
[Defy General] krestian:
Haven't detected a voice call drop, but in all honesty I didn't test at the same time when I'm having a data drop. Next time I'll try and report.

What I did notice, tho, is that the radio goes rather crazy when this happens. For example, I tried to recover from this by switching 2G, 2G+3G, 3G and I noticed you have to touch the switch button (on the notification power control) multiple times until it takes - the same thing if you try to disable data.

Just yesterday I had an incident where it went totally nuts - I had left a wifi area and when I tried to turn off wifi it got stuck at "stopping wifi", and there was no way to either turn it off or back on, and cellular data was also stuck. I had to reboot the phone as not even airplane got it out of this state.

FYI I'm on MB525 red lens running the 1018 nightly + V4 update.
[Defy General] disadjusted:
It was enough to switch baseband once. Latest had 3-4%/h, switching to 2.51 resulted in 1%/h and since then I've been keeping it. But I didn't have recognizable data drops in both of them. I guess once you've found a proper baseband, just keep it, but until this you have to try. E. G. In Tunisia I had to switch to French - Orange for most stable (if you can call it stable in Africa :D) connection.
[Defy General] swapnil360:
Android 4.2 Source code is getting released! :D

www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/13/breaking-android-4-2-being-released-to-aosp/
[Defy General] syllogyking:
4.2 and 3.0 kernel may become a reality for us. oh the possibilities!
[Defy General] swapnil360:
Yes it's possible. Quarx is building kernel 3.0.8 for MS2. Maybe it'll come to Defy as well. Android 4.2 should also come. However I read that Quarx is busy with his semester exams. So maybe Eppy can help.

One question: why are we going to kernel 3.0.8 (it's about a year and half old). Why can't we get kernel 3.6? I'm using 3.6.6 on my desktop machine.
[Defy General] syllogyking:
Are Linux kernels the same as the kernels in Android? I saw from a nexus 4 screen that it was on a 3.4 kernel.

Sent from a smarter planet
[Defy General] hackergnome:
Quarx works on Defy+ kernel(for both 2.6.32 and 3.0.8)

I don't want a tapatalk sig!
[Defy General] swapnil360:
Android uses the Linux kernel. But I don't understand why they're so behind. The Nexus 4 kernel (3.4) is still months old.

He posted a log in the MS2 forums a while ago.
[Defy General] taomorpheus:
Great ROM! The only problem is that sometimes reboots without any reason. During a call, or installing app. I have the latest build installed, wiped cache-dalvik again after install. (Defy+)

Am I the only one?:confused:
[Defy General] ccav2000:
I also have stability issues, the 02/11 build is the last stable one for me.
[Defy General] j16sdiz:
I have same problem.

I have changed back to ext3 and see if it is better.
[Defy General] TJKV:
That's because he gets help from the ms2 devs there. Quarx doesn't even have an ms2 afaik. But the devices are largely similar so once he is done the ms2 devs can easily implement it for their device too...

Sent from my MB526
[Defy General] swapnil360:
I know
[Defy General] nostupidthing:
newer =/= better.

(android makes some changes to the mainline kernel so it cannot update as fast, also phones have lots of proprietary parts [compared to desktop/servers] w/o open source drivers, if you don't know what I'm talking about please go research/read/investigate about it. btw i'm sure whatever you're running on your pc is not the latest the companies running in their labs as well, so stop worrying about this, thx very much)

---------- Post added at 12:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:39 PM ----------

not trying to be offensive but people here are VOLUNTEERS and our time has value as well, so if you don't spend YOUR time looking for solutions (like reading <20-page first), then WHY should we bother to help you??? in any case, please refer to the YouTube video in Quarx's dev thread and then buy an iphone. thx very much.
[Defy General] hackergnome:
that was a defy+ log :P

he posts there coz MS2, MS developers work together on that thread...

I don't want a tapatalk sig!
[Defy General] Sleepy!:
You give voice to my feelings. :good:

Please don't be obnoxious while asking for help. If someone knows the solution, if they have the time, and, most importantly, if they feel like it, they'll help you out.

Self help is the best help, and most, if not all problems have been previously reported and (in most cases) solved.

In my 3 years as a forum lurker and 2 months as a poster, the most important thing I've learnt is to READ, READ and use that SEARCH button.

End rant. :silly:
[Defy General] disadjusted:
+1 (while still on ext3)

With every (kind of random) reboot it says "starting up apps" but without optimizing them.
[Defy General] corrinti:
To find a solution would be great if all of you who have random reboots would give also your last stock sbf flashed.

On the other hand I know a case with ca 3 random reboots per day on last builds till change of baseband - after that only one reboot in four days, but still the one
[Defy General] gkkovacs:
UPDATED experience and problems with CM10 0911

I have installed CM10 0211 on top of MS2Ginger, with a full data/cache/dalvik wipe.

I have since done a full wipe again when flashing 0911 and checked all issues below again.

Button backlight SOLVED

- button backlight changing finally works

ext4 - SOLVED

I have backed up data only, formatted to ext4 and restored. Works fine, no reboots.

Battery consumption - MAYBE SOLVED

I have installed the battd files from MS2Ginger, battery was very good for a day or two, but not anymore.

- battery consumption is still higher than it was under MS2Ginger (I'm using the same vsels and freqs)

- especially when using apps/screen is on

Major performance regressions

I have checked a couple of benchmarks that I also tried on MS2Ginger, and CMX is MUCH SLOWER.

Quadrant MS2Ginger: Total:1636 CPU:1419 Mem:1952 I/O:3164 2D:509 3D:1136

Quadrant CM10 0911: Total:887 CPU:1180 Mem:1361 I/O:617 2D:243 3D:1032

Linpack MS2Ginger: Single threaded 16.529 MFLOPS 5.07 s Multi threaded 14.789 MFLOPS 11.41 s

Linpack CM10 0911: Single threaded 11.841 MFLOPS 7.08 s Multi threaded 12.025 MFLOPS 14.03 s

Lots of lags

- launcher and app switching becomes laggy after some time, but better than 0211

- phone/dialer app still doesn't get cached, almost always slow to start up

- Swiftkey service seems to be running, but also very slow to appear every time

Phone and Wi-fi

- calls sometimes get disconnected abruptly, looks like the phone app is getting killed when memory is low

- wi-fi tethering does not work (Wireless Tether from Play store works)

App problems

- compass calibration does not work (never turns green), although compass seems to function ok

- proximity sensor still does not work with Viber (it did work on MS2Ginger from Viber 2.2.1)

- Chrome is very laggy, unusable

- Browser force closes a lot with big web pages (try loading http://index.hu/?teljes and zoom around, press back, etc.)

It looks like memory is not enough for a Jelly Bean system, even though Settings/Apps shows 80-120 MB free memory all the time.
[Defy General] corrinti:
To make you feel down :D you've inspired me to make tests for CM7.2 (Maniac build, xx.11.2012)

Quadrant Total 2033, CPU 1555, Memory 1931, i/o 5030, 2D 298, 3D 1352

Linpack Single threaded 15672 MFLOPS 5.35s Multi threaded 17.98 MFLOPS 9.38s

But these are only benchmarks :cool:
[Defy General] Sleepy!:
^ I see what you did there. :D
[Defy General] disadjusted:
Might have helped to restore only data from a 02/11 backup and after that tb restore of latest app data + wipe cache + dalvik. Not one reboot the whole day despite heavy usage...
[Defy General] XJeFX:
Hi, i need some help here... i was on latest CM10-20121109-NIGHTLY-mb526.zip running normal... but i just want to go back to cm7, first tried to wipe data/cache and install cm7 form recovery.. it just bootloops, so i go back to cm10, it worked ok.

But then, i tried to flash the SBF i always used (JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_177-005_NORDIC.sbf) to do a fresh install of cm7, but after i flashed nordic.sbf phone doesn't boot... it stays bootlooping... Now i cant go back to cm10 and sbf flash doesn't work... what should i do? :crying:

edit: tried flashing stock sbf (i have a red lens defy) and it bootloops too!

Note: i never flashed a newer sbf or a defy+ sbf, just updated to cm10 by recovery.

EDIT2: i tried to flash cm10 2ndboot sbf but justlead me to bootloader error... stock sbf just bootloops so i think some partition (data/cache) are corrupted or in a incompatible format (ext4?)... the problem is that i dont have recovery (not even stock recovery) nor bootmenu.....the only thing that works on my phone is bootloader... any way to fix that partitions from bootloader?
[Defy General] corrinti:
See my answer in second support thread.

CM10 2ndboot sbf can give you bootloader errors if compiled with lower froyo version, even the same BL number
[Defy General] triovi:
Just beautiful..

http://quarx2k.ru/aosp_4.2-defy/
[Defy General] popadic022:
JB 4.2 allready?? but we dont have finished 4.1.2?
[Defy General] TJKV:
C'mon let quarx have some fun :D

Sent from my MB526
[Defy General] swapnil360:
Look at this file on Quarx's server. The file size is 106MB and it's a 7z archive. Looks like an Andorid 4.2 build.

http://quarx2k.ru/aosp_4.2-defy/defy-demo-4.2.7z
[Defy General] dd23:
I just wanted to post some interesting discoveries on battery drain and baseband settings.

Some infos: I'm currently running the most recent quarx CM10 4.1.2 version (20121109) with full gapps, the default CPU governor (interactive) and the default VSels and CPU-Speed, I also installed the battd-fix some days ago. I live in Germany and use the O2 mobile network, so these particular settings probably only apply to central European users!

Cause I had issues with mobile connectivity I tried different baseband versions in the last weeks and ended up with 2.21 because this one seemed to be reliable and stable. After some days, again I had problems so I switched baseband back to 3.4.x yesterday.

Good news: I didn't have any problems today and after 8h12min uptime I am still on 87% battery! That was a lot worse before. Well, I didn't use my phone that much today (some messaging, maybe 30 minutes of music with Apollo, Wifi most of the time on) but I guess this is freaking incredible, compared to before.

TL;DR : If anyone has problems with battery life, try changing your baseband settings!
[Defy General] sUpErwHoO:
The demo is a 7z file, normal installation process??
[Defy General] ppero196:
Extract it and then copy to /mnt/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup(s)

Not working (so far):

Radio

SD Card

Button backlight

Camera

Working (so far):

WiFi (although signal is weak)

Display

Charging via USB

Demo is extremely fast.

Faster than 4.1.2
[Defy General] tongax:
Nandroid

I hope eppy make a stable enough version of ICS

since Quarx now be devoted to 4.2 I guess.
[Defy General] soyusado:
How can I install the demo? Just like any other nightly?

Nevermind the question was answered while I was writting it.
[Defy General] sa3e1:
The first ICS builds without radio working were fast too, but when you actually use it with all your apps contacts (hi-res contact photos) mail etc, the speed usually won't be the same :( Let's hope that Quarx&Epsylon can improve the kernel to maintain the speed :)
[Defy General] sUpErwHoO:
What are the current drawbacks on converting to ext4? Are there any?
[Defy General] Kayant:
Yh I know :D Hope the speed stays the same as 4.2 gets fatted up by CM, AOKP and other teams :p

Can't wait to merge in the the new tweaks to kernel and the device tree into my kangs :D

P.S

I think the reason it's so fast could be due to the how barebones it is atm and also maybe some extra butterness in 4.2 ;)

Also to people looking for developer options you have to go to about phone hit the build number 10 times then it will say "you are now a developer" xD. That's the only requirement needed to be a developer :rolleyes:
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
geez this thing is fast...

but sd problem is annoying

any shorter ideas on how to restore nandroid...i think only way to go back to other builds is after sbf flash....coz u cant mount sd in recovery for restoring nandroid.,...:(

but for now...using adb to install playstore atleast and do some testing

cheers quarx

edit...nope thats a fail....adb doesnt even recognise...seems obvious now...usb doesnt work i guess!!!..
[Defy General] Shubhamqweasd:
i read somewhere that , 4.2 uses a completely newer type of hwcomposer ..

and many devs including ( galaxy s , s2 ) , are depending on CM team to make the new hwcomposer compatible with all devices ( universally) , but sadly we dont have kernel 3.0.. so the speed which we see in our 4.1.2 and 4.2 is not even 20% of the original speed on which these OS's were meant to be performed.

also , quarx updated our kernel to 2.6.32.60, so maybe the increased speed can be the result of this .. and we all know 4.2 is faster thn 4.1 by core :D

but , m pretty sure , that when the CM merges their hwcomposer , and if we get kernel 3.0, u wont believe ,how much butter we will get :D

till then ,.......
[Defy General] Bé Yêu:
I trying flash 4.2 zip from CWM using Quarx 4.1.2 but NOTHING change at About (Setting) . Any idea ?!

P/S: Sorry my English too bad .
[Defy General] ppero196:
There's a guide on previous page

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Defy General] thekguy:
Guys what's the kernel version in the demo build i.e same as the latest 2nd boot or is it a new kernel?
[Defy General] Shubhamqweasd:
2.6.32.60

epsy said ,

this kernel has many fixes from recent updated kernels ,

so , for now , this is the best kernel that can be used on defy , until the 3.0 kernel comes :D
[Defy General] theclaytons:
How do we get this kernel with 0911 build?
[Defy General] triovi:
Is not oficial oficial yet. But if you know how to do it, please find all modifications made on Quarx github page.
[Defy General] adi4motion:
It's time to say goodbye guys, atfer two years i've decided to move away from defy and bought myself an HTC One S. I would like to thank the devs for the wonderful job they did, you'll allways have my respect and also thank you, GREAT COMMUNITY of devs/users. Maybe we'll see again on other phone's threads. Cya!
[Defy General] Sleepy!:
A lot of users have been leaving in the past few days.

I myself plan on leaving in the next 1-3 months.

Before you leave I have just one request for all users. Please make sure that you have, at least once, donated to Quarx.

He and Epsylon3 have devoted a lot of their time and effort to this phone. To give a small donation is the least we can do for Quarx IRL.
[Defy General] measel:
my personal experience

Hi can't help it. I have to write about my experiences so far. I know, most of that was already reported but it bugs me so much that I have these problems (and others don't)!

installation: factory reset > sbf > factory reset > cm10 > wipe cache > restore custom apps with titanium backup > Holo Launcher HD

hardware: Bayer Defy (was SOC but board got replaced due to earpiece bug)

Battery

Started with 100% but within 4 hours I was on 4%. Tried reboots, save cpu settings.

Seems to be better after recharge, but Recharge stuck on 74% for 1:30h. Had to reboot for showing 100%.

Wifi

unstable for me, when using SAMBA Filesharing it breaks connection (interesting fact: mobile data stopped as well)

deleted SAMBA let's see if it helps

System

I get a many soft reboots (no pattern found so far)

overall experience is not good for me and I do not understand why it is so different for people.

It was laggy even before restoring Titanium backups.

Apps need a lot of time for booting,

Launcher responds not well (sometimes)

Restore

I restored all my SMS with the app SMS Backup and Restore. And it got totally scrambled (don't know if it's an app problem or the system BUT you have no Setting how you want to sort your messages.

What I miss (compared to CM7):

Sim PIN not on flight mode/reboot necessary

AGPS Download

PDroid support

I want to mention the positive aspects as well:

The Look

I love it.

The Notification Area is so great, compared to CM7

Weather Widget on Lock Screen

System

Fuse intergration is great: It makes it possible to mount EncFS volumes!

Of course i like Google Now

General

future proofness

If you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear them. Why do I have these problems and some don't?
[Defy General] hackergnome:
I have it but it breaks Wi-Fi and Network

I don't know what modules to include and now that my PC is broken I can't do much :(

Once Epsylon replies me of what module he was taking about I can publish it...

http://d-h.st/nXV 2.6.32-60 buggy

Note: Extremely fast. You may not be able to handle it!

I don't want a tapatalk sig!
[Defy General] Shubhamqweasd:
2.6.32.60 faster in JB also >>?? can u pls check :D
[Defy General] Sleepy!:
Probably, coz lots of newer kernel tweaks have been back ported to it...

In all some 3 yrs worth of changes...

Look at eppy's dev thread for more info.

And he's uploaded a new ICS nightly which is supposed to be a lot more stable than the one from yesterday.
[Defy General] Deonix:
Everything has been so great... it will be a sad day when i will stop using my Defy. Making room for a Nexus 4 as soon as carriers bring it to my country. Hope to see you around Adi!
[Defy General] KairosDev:
No SD, but Bootmenu access?

I'm about to try this now on my MB525 on Quarx's Defy(+) 11.09 build.

However, you say that there's no SD card connectivity.

So does this mean that the SD card is also unavailable in the bootmenu?

If so, then I won't be able to restore or do anything really.
[Defy General] ktmbikerman:
SD card is available in the boot menu.
[Defy General] KairosDev:
SD card in bootmenu

Cool, thanks very much! Downloading as I type this.
[Defy General] ccav2000:
To amend your post: there is no Radio (RIL) support, so no mobile network, it is normal. Also this is pure AOSP so no Google apps of any kind, so no Google Now, no Gmail, no Sync. It's just a demo, cannot be used for anything else except to have a look how it will be in the future.
[Defy General] swapnil360:
It won't be long. Soon we'll have completely stable 4.2. There aren't many changes from 4.1. I remember, just one week of the first build, 4.1 was as stable as 4.0.
[Defy General] niksy+:
Hey, guys, how many of you tried formatting the SD to ntfs? I've tried it and it slowed down my card and usb transfer speeds... exFAT was even worse. Here are the speeds I got with SD Card Tester:

ntfs write speed ~2.2MB/s

exFAT write speed ~0.9MB/s

fat32 - 4.84MB/s (the same result before testing other fs and after)

It's a 16gb class 4 card. I was almost sure that I've read comments about formatting the sd to ntfs sped the card speed up, but it seems it doesn't...

Nevermind, all's well, still :) Will test formatting /data /system /cache to ext3 and/or 4 these days, too!
[Defy General] :
no changelog for 17nov build? :(
[Defy General] vap_66:
Be careful, a few days after formatting to ext4 I got a crash while starting an app (Torque, to be more precise) which resulted in an endless bootloop. Tried some thingies (including data wipe in stock recovery, reflash another nightly, try to restore a nandroid, etc), but to no avail, as I had to reflash my SBF to get rid of that data corruption (E: Can't mount cache/log, and so on).

So, since I started again from SBF, root, 2ndInit and so on... why not try something new? So now I'm using White Rabbit 1.8. I like it :D.
[Defy General] DaKu007:
Change log for Nov 17 build??

Sent from my Nexus 4. :D
[Defy General] ppero196:
Check the thread

Sent from my MB526