[Nexus 7 General] hotleadsingerguy:
I don't have kids, but I also think it's kind of a cop out. When I was a kid my parents did buy me a Gameboy, but they also put limitations on when/where/how much I could play it. The road trip to or from somewhere is one thing, but while on vacation? No chance. Contrary to popular culture, it did not make my brain explode from boredom...it helped me find other things to do that were arguably more productive to my well-being. I don't presume to know better than anyone in the art of child rearing, but it seems like many people use electronic devices as a kind of black hole of attention -- they've become a way for parents to get time off. Most psychologists would agree that is a very dangerous practice.

Actually, I never said that at all...I didn't say there's no point to getting a 16GB version, I'm saying not *everyone* needs the 16GB version. You are making quite the contrary argument: you said that anyone that could afford it should obviously buy the 16GB version, and anyone that can't afford it shouldn't buy any at all. You're limiting people to one of the choices, while I'm saying not everyone *has* to choose just the one.

In addition, I didn't say "it has to be used this way". I said that this device intentionally offers multiple ways of doing things, and that's why they've chosen to limit the amount of space on it (this, in addition to the pricing model they wanted to stick to). You're saying it's not enough space to fit all of your stuff, and I said that's because there are alternative ways to fit all of your stuff. Not once did I say anyone *has* to do anything at all...I just said it's easy to use alternative solutions that make the in-device space argument a little more irrelevant.

And as far as ripping entire mkv blurays...it would be just as easy to transcode the videos you want into 1280x720 (or at least 1280 on the long edge) in a lower bitrate. The device can only display a certain resolution at a certain bitrate, so creating a transcoding profile to match would mean you would never be able to see the difference (since, again, the device is the limiting factor) and you'd cut the space requirements by at least 3/4. 5 episodes of a television show encoded at 10k bitrate, stereo (since you're using either headphones or the built-in speakers, most likely), and MPEG4 at 1280x720 would be a maximum of around 2GB on the high-end. That's being liberal with my estimations.

Not at all. I debated on getting the 16GB and realized I have no need for it. My phone has 32GB of storage and I'm currently using 5GB of it, and that's with video files on it that I wouldn't have on my N7 (recorded video, mostly). There's nothing to be flawed about with my logic...I wasn't pushing for people to go a specific way, just explaining that there are alternatives to storing everything on the device - Something Google was *adamant* about during the I/O keynote when they announced the N7. There's usually no longer a *need* to store everything on the device, because technologies to store the information elsewhere and access it almost everywhere is now more readily abundant. Again, even if I don't want to use Google's services to store my multimedia, it's *extremely* easy to set up a home server, or something of the like, on any computer you might own. It took me less than 5 minutes to make one of the computers in my house into an impromptu "server" of sorts. I can now access all of my movies, music, photos, and television shows from anywhere on the planet, as long as I have access to the internet on an Android, iOS, Windows, or OSX device. In addition, all of that information can be locally saved, if I know I'm going to be out of reception or in a place without internet access.

Again, please understand, I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything. I'm just offering alternatives to spending an extra $50 for people that might not need to but might have been convinced to in this topic.