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[Nexus 7 General] hotleadsingerguy:
A few things I should mention here...NOVA 3 takes up 1.7GB, not 3GB. Also, even 3GB is less than 8GB...meaning it doesn't "almost fill up" anything. 1.7GB is 21% of 8GB, and most of the other *big* games take up around 400MB or less. I have GTA3, Shadowgun THD, and a few other bigger games installed and I'm only using around 3.4GB total (including a few videos, around 35-40 apps, and a few spotify playlists at Extreme quality).

8GB is perfectly acceptable if you have any ability to manage space. Be an adult and carry the things you need and rely on the internet for the rest. There's absolutely no need to store a ton of music/movies/pictures on the tablet if you have a phone made in the past few years and a computer at home. It's extremely easy to set up a streaming service or use Google's own and tether a phone. Even if I'm not in range of a WiFi hotspot, one tap on my tablet and I'm bluetooth tethered to my phone to stream anything I need from either Google or my home computer.

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Absolutely horrific logic.

"If you can afford a few extra grand the GT500 Mustang is a no-brainer. If you can't, you shouldn't be buying a $30k car anyway."

Do you realize how faulty that is? Just because you see a point in a 16GB does not mean it's impossible to find a reason to opt for the 8GB iteration. I have no need for a 16GB N7, so I bought the 8GB. I have more than 50% of my space free and that's fully-loaded with all of the things I want on it. Yes, there are times I'll add a bit more (for a flight, perhaps), but for the most part I have plenty of extra space. My iPad 3 also has a good 50% free (32GB model) for the same reason.

If you learn how to manage your life, you'd be amazed at how uncomplicated and uncluttered it becomes. There's no need to carry 100 hours of things to do with me at all times...I'm not a 13 year old needing things to occupy my life. It's amazing that you guys need 40+ games with you at all times and then on top of it a few movies "just in case". I think some people on this board are afraid of boredom to a frightening degree.

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^^ Perfect example of what I mean.

You're going *camping* and you're taking 5 episodes of a show with you. You're specifically going to a place and doing an activity that allows you to spend time in nature...and you're preparing for it by bringing 5 episodes of a television show with you. Why not just, I don't know, stay home?

I think I'm completely lost in this generation. I don't really care to go camping or spend a weekend in nature, but instead of going and playing on my phone all weekend I would just choose to not go. Hit the pub and enjoy some time with friends or something.
[Nexus 7 General] vshun:
On the first day of getting 16G version I just downloaded most of my apps and was left with 8.1G free, before any music or photos, so 8G would not cut it for my family.

Now most of the apps taking space are games with graphic packs like Shadowngun or MC3, so if you are more of a casual gamer (read Angry Birds/Where is my Water/Cut the rope) and will use it for book reading/web consumption/casual games only you will not need 16G, and 8G will leave you with some ample space for a few songs and book apps on top of your apps.
[Nexus 7 General] ikeny:
Just because you don't feel like watch an episode or 2 in the car, or before you sleep, rest of the world shouldn't. :roll eyes:

By the way, I'm guessing you don't have kids. If you do, you'll never think having a few extra movies and games around is unnecessary, or you can always plan ahead and manage your life better.
[Nexus 7 General] AZImmortal:
Do you realize how faulty this is? You're criticizing others for saying that there's no point in getting the 8GB version while simultaneously saying that there's no point in getting the 16GB version.

I didn't realize that we could tell others how to spend their time on this forum.
[Nexus 7 General] Trickee360:
Ok, whoa, whoa. Let's not get personal, here. This discussion has been really productive for the most part.

I went for the 16GB model because, since this is a nexus device that will stay on the cutting-edge software-wise and I anticipate holding onto it for quite a while, I figured I'd invest in long-term flexibility, i.e. if app sizes keep increasing as they have been, I want to keep some music playlists handy all the time, I want to have comic series to read, or I want to shuffle ROMs in the future.

This device is clearly built with the cloud in mind, and I'm not advocating for carrying around whole TV series on the thing, but I do want the flexability
[Nexus 7 General] shriva:
The OTG adapter only costs like $3.. there is a thread in the Accessories forum with reviews on what OTG adapters and what hds are working for people..

There is even a 64gig thumb drive on amazon for under $40..
[Nexus 7 General] AZImmortal:
I was just trying to point out that it's not up to others to decide how anyone wants to use their tablet. As far as this discussion goes, I ordered the 16GB version even though my current 16GB tablet is showing 11GB free because I want the flexibility for things like watching movies/shows on long flights.
[Nexus 7 General] Nexcellent:
Did you get the 8GB and now you're trying to justify your purchase by telling everyone that they don't know how to properly organize their media? Get outta here with that! Did you ever consider that YOUR logic is flawed? ;)
[Nexus 7 General] derelict:
I was on the fence about this, but decided on the 16G because it just gives more options and flexibility. I also just ordered a nifty OTG cable for $0.98 on amazon with free shipping... just in case. I find that when you run into a situation where you run out of space, it is very frustrating to figure out how to clean things up properly... I would rather not deal with that.
[Nexus 7 General] randpost:
I went with the 8gb. I have everything I need installed. Music is all on Google play. Google drive holds all my docs and sideload apks. I use 3 32gb cards for video and other large files via otg. When I finish playing a game it gets unloaded.

I have 3gb left with those games installed, plus all my regular apps.

I guess it all depends on how you use your tablet. I didn't go with the 16gb because I didn't want to wait for it. Turns out I don't regret the decision.
[Nexus 7 General] AZImmortal:
I think you're confusing me with one of the other posters. I didn't say any of these things.
[Nexus 7 General] os2baba:
My 8GB Nexus 7 is already almost full!!!

I got the 8GB Nexus and I'm still pissed off about the lack of an SD Card and for charging $50 more for what would essentially costs about $5. I downloaded the Transformer movie and it's about 3GB. I have less than 2GB remaining on the tablet now. One Nandroid and I'm out. I have an OTG cable, but can't test it yet since I haven't had the time to root the tablet. I have a 32GB Transformer Prime and I have about 10GB remaining on that one with 2 3GB Nandroid backups. I downloaded the Transformer movie on the Prime so will most likely delete it from the Nexus 7. Even with Google's push towards using the cloud, I wonder how you are supposed to download and watch a movie from Google Play with such limited storage. Is it possible to download movies from Google Play on to an external drive using OTG? Probably not.
[Nexus 7 General] Nexcellent:
My phone has 16GB of storage and i'm also currently using 5GB, but that's because it's a phone, and not a tablet. I actually use my Gnex as a mobile device for calling, socializing, work/business, while my tablet serves a much more media based device that i use for entertainment. Two completely different devices, meant to serve different purposes. I use plenty of cloud services, at least 60% of my media is in the cloud, and that played zero roll in my decision to get a good amount of storage on a tablet i'm going to be using on a daily basis. It was just common sense.

Just because YOU bought and think that 8GB is enough, doesn't mean it's the right choice for MOST people. Please understand that they wouldn't call you out on your logic if it was perfectly sound :p
[Nexus 7 General] SoHaunted:
Couldn't have said it better myself.

I go camping to rough it, not be balls deep on my tablet in a tent all day.
[Nexus 7 General] CooLoserTech:
I recommend the 16 GB. You'll think "Oh the 8 Gb is enough for me" and then when time comes to add apps you'll run out amazingly quick. I have the 16 Gb and have about half full which is more than the 5.33 Gb available on the 8 gig model. But truly, it depends on your usage. if your a power user like me, you'll need 16 gigs, but if your a person to rent movies, Tv, or reading and few apps, then the 8 gig is good. It all really depends on you likes and usage
[Nexus 7 General] sstephen17:
Quick question. If I root and get an OTG cable, can I play videos off of any USB thumb drive without having to transfer it to the N7? I have a 16gb thumb drive that I don't really use but for trips, it would be nice to load up a couple of movies on it. I get my N7 today and wasn't considering rooting but if it enables me to do this, I'll root right away.
[Nexus 7 General] hotleadsingerguy:
I don't mean to offend with this, but my logic is sound. The only thing requiring space is apps, which can be downloaded/uninstalled at will, anytime you need to. Aside from downloading a few videos or some music for offline storage there's really no need for much space on a device like this. It's *intended* to be used as a streaming device.

My explanation was not just good for *me*, it was an acceptable alternative for anyone. If you bought this tablet, there's an extremely high chance you have access to a computer. If you have a computer, then you can also utilize any number of the cloud services that make high amounts of storage on the device unnecessary. I never said it was illogical to buy the 16GB iteration...just that it was not illogical to buy the 8GB iteration. Why do those 2 points have to be mutually exclusive?

Buying *either* of the two models is completely acceptable...I just don't agree with people when they say 8GB isn't enough and everyone should buy the 16GB edition. This should be even more true with the "power users". People that are power users would get even more out of utilizing the cloud-based services offered by Google and others. You can get more work done, have access to more multimedia, and have all of your relevant information at your fingertips anytime it might be required. *THAT* is the logical course of action.

ssteven17: Yup. Get any number of the OTG mounting apps (which auto-mount attached usb sticks) and open it up in ES File Explorer or Astro. Usually it shows up as a separate directory/mount in the apps and you can load up videos like you normally would. On my previous devices I'd usually keep all of my movies/videos on a USB stick and then just copied one or two over to my device at a time so I didn't have to keep the stick plugged in. With the way a few of the cloud services now work I don't even use the OTG cable any more.
[Nexus 7 General] phositadc:
Can you download movies you've rented on Google Play and then watch them without an internet connection? I thought Play movies could only be streamed.
[Nexus 7 General] hotleadsingerguy:
You can download them anytime, and as many times as you'd like. Rented movies are good for a few days (whether streamed or downloaded) but purchased movies can be re-downloaded forever.
[Nexus 7 General] phositadc:
Sweet. Good to know.
[Nexus 7 General] drewd:
I bought the 16GB Nexus 7 because that's all that the local store had. If they would have stocked the 8GB, I probably would have purchased it. I'm happy with the cloud services - all of my music is there, so the Music Manager works perfectly for me. I very rarely go anywhere that there isn't either WiFi or "4G" cell service, so I'm covered there. The $50 premium for 8GB of flash kind of irked me, but only a little - I understand what Google's intentions are regarding streaming services, so it's not like they pulled the wool over my eyes or anything.

I guess that if you want as much as possible locally on your tablet, the 16GB version would be what you want. I guess that it's all in what you plan to do with the device.
[Nexus 7 General] Nexcellent:
You are under some weird assumption that everyone is just going to hop on over to cloud services in a snap and all problems are solved. I work in the prof. data retrieval industry, nagging people about cloud is something i eat and breathe daily, for more than half a decade now. Trust me it's difficult enough for people to put their data on physical media let alone sit through all their videos/music/pictures uploading to the cloud.

In a perfect world, WiFi is on the streets, freeways and data plans are pennies. Everything goes in the cloud and storage on mobile devices has become completely irrelevant. Music, video, games stream in 320kbps audio and 1080P video with zero lag, regardless of where you are. Lastly, everyone knows how to and uses all the upload tools that allow them to utilize the services to the max.

Unfortunately, we do not yet live in this world. It's coming, very soon. I like the sound of an acceptable alternative, and i agree with you - it's acceptable, for a select few who have already largely adopted cloud services (like you and i). I personally 'could' go with an 8GB because i have 100GB in my GDrive (6k/20k songs in my GMusic as well) but data aside, it will hinder my experience. I'm just being realistic and accounting for the average consumer, not about us android fanboys who utilize everything Android has to offer at all times.

For the less advanced user it would be a daunting task to keep moving files back and forth and making sure all data is backed up at all times, etc.

The Dark Knight came out on the play store today 3.6GB combined file (wtf all on it's own). With 8GB there is no way I could download that without backing up at least two big games to my computer, along with the save data, etc, maybe even other data?

I will say that if you DON'T wan't to spend more than $199.00+tax on a tablet, or you'd rather save $50.00 for something else, than the 8GB is the answer for you! It was more about reassurance of a hassle free storage capacity than the extra $50.00.
[Nexus 7 General] randpost:
As long as the speed of the memory card is above class4 , you can play 720p video files perfectly from OTG cable and memory card. I have two 32gb cards loaded with 720p TV shows and everyone of them play perfectly from SD card.
[Nexus 7 General] phishn:
Depends on your needs. I have 16 gb and only 7 gigs free, but I have a few games, titanium backup, 2 nandroids, and a couple albums of music. I don't really need all that stuff locally with stickmount but it's convenient.
[Nexus 7 General] brizey:
I was constantly deleting and moving backups on the kf. 8GB is enough, flashaholics should get the 16 GB. I think the 8 GB exists to hit the $200 price point. But as I said, it is enough to be a viable tablet.
[Nexus 7 General] josefmawas:
My sister got me a nexus 7 8gb as a surprise, but I want the 16gb:(

I have modern combat 3, dead trigger and other thd and mini games installed and 3,4gb left, so only 2 hd games left...
[Nexus 7 General] brianjr1:
Get a USB otg cable and a 16gb flash drive if you want to get cheaper storage. I have the 8gb and I flash a bit and as long as you don't mind offloading stuff to a computer you'll not have any issues at all.
[Nexus 7 General] Arthur Hucksake:
You got a free Nexus as a gift? Good grief, just be happy with it. You don't need all those games installed at once.
[Nexus 7 General] mintvilla:
Sell it, buy the 16gb version.... she will never know!
[Nexus 7 General] YoungAceAtlanta:
The space matters

The Nexus 7 is like the best Android gaming device out.. if you never played mobile games before, you will now

Cloud storage is great .. but what if you on a train or plane and tether don't work because you have no network .. you going to want to save those songs / movies to your sdcard

But you can always use a OTG cable .. but Do you really want to hassle with always having to plug in a stick or external HDD

That just me tho.. I hate having wires n etc
[Nexus 7 General] ExploreMN:
I only have about 5gb free of my 16... so to me, 8gb would be to confined.
[Nexus 7 General] hullbay:
For $50 more.. it's better to have more than too little.
[Nexus 7 General] ClanUrdnot:
Can you run apps/games off external storage through stickmount?
[Nexus 7 General] rman726:
Google play charges $226 after tax and shipping for 8gb and that is with only 6.35% tax... Worse in many other places. Yet you can buy 16gb for 249 with no tax/shipping I you spend a little time/willing to wait a little. I got lucky and got in on the j&r deal and already got my nexus 7, for $222 after cash back. :). But there are still plenty of decent deals out there.
[Nexus 7 General] josefmawas:
+1
[Nexus 7 General] AZImmortal:
I think that getting the 16GB with no tax and free shipping is definitely the best way to go at this point. Even if you pay the full $249, if you can get 3% cash back, then that brings it down to $241, which isn't much more than getting the 8GB directly from Google.
[Nexus 7 General] SnoMan88:
So many ways I agree
[Nexus 7 General] krelvinaz:
I think it is simple. If you use your device a lot without cloud access, you might consider it. While rooting and using OTG and a storage device is a nice ability, it is a bit of a hassle if you just want to play a movie offline.

I constantly had issues with space on the Kindle Fire and I don't really play games. Didn't want the same issue.
[Nexus 7 General] darkquota:
I have the 8GB version. 5.92 GB available and 4.50 GB of that is free. I have a few games installed (GTA 3, dragon fly, gunman Clive, and a puzzle game) and some other apps for news, reading, watching videos, etc... I don't store music or movies on my device.
[Nexus 7 General] espionage724:
Hmm, well I was intending on getting the 8GB just to get it from Play Store, but perhaps I should just get the 16GB from retail? Do I still get the $25 Play Store Credit + $10 on NFC with Retail? If I have any issues, should I call up Google, or the place I bought it from?

Or perhaps I should just go 8GB, and use my 8GB Flash Drive I have. And as others have asked, can I run games and apps from Stickmount?
[Nexus 7 General] josefmawas:
Can you run games and apps with ota stickmount?
[Nexus 7 General] KCisTall:
I know the stick mounts like a new drive and can stream music/video. Unsure about other types of content
[Nexus 7 General] Frankenstooge:
I bought the 16gb... In one week I've blown past 8gb.

I hope that helps.
[Nexus 7 General] sevron:
All I could afford was the 8gb for now. Was to impatient to wait for money to come in and then wait for backorders. When I get paid I'm gonna buy a second one with 16gb and give this one to my brother or someone else. Family won't stop saying they love this.
[Nexus 7 General] Shano56:
I didnt know the 16gb had no tax and free shipping...****! I should have bought that one. I will probably buy the 16gb one for me and gift the current one to my girlfriend :p
[Nexus 7 General] espionage724:
Whoa, I missed this part somewhere. 16gb needs to start selling again from Play Store within a few days :p
[Nexus 7 General] hoola20055:
It depends on the person. I have what I want on my 8gig and have over 5 gigs left. I am an advocate of cloud life so I bought my n7 with the knowledge I was going to use it as a cloud device . Its amazing hardware.
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
In my opinion...

8GB is fine for everyone except gamers.

External flash is fine for movies, but when games run over a GB each (Nova 3), memory goes fast.
[Nexus 7 General] derelict:
I found that I easily blew past 8 gig when i started to try a back up using something like titanium..
[Nexus 7 General] kpjimmy:
I came from a Viewsonic Gtab to a Kindle Fire, and now a N7. The Gtab was great but heavy to lug around. The KF was awesome but lacked GPS and bluetooth. But other than that the KF was a great tablet for the price I paid and rooting it to become a tablet was easy peasy. So the 8gbs there was enough for me.

Fast forward to the N7. I now have the 16 gb. I would have been happy with the 8gb N7 but MacMall.com sold the 16gb N7 with free shipping and no tax.

At the play store a 8gb would be $199.00 plus tax and shipping (13+15.84=29.83) and that would have been a total of about $228.83.

At Macmall.com, 16gb was the only available model sold and that cost me a total of $249.00 period.

So $20.17 for an upgrade for 8 gbs was a no brainer for me. :p
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apk_xiz:
See picture.

this happen on default gallery app by stock ICS 4.0.3 ROM

please any one know how to fix it thanks .
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheStickMan:
That looks like a problem with the app. Does it happen elsewhere?

It's like your dpi settings to not match the app dpi.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apk_xiz:
no i am on stock dpi 240 (and stock room ICS 4.0.3 uk )
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Bunjung:
Hi

Been trying to resolve the Obtaining IP address problem of my HTC HD2 Android from DHCP to static but most threads do not talk about the "Network Prefix length" but are talking about Netmask. I dont have Netmask on my phone.

Will changing from DHCP to static work in the first place?

Pls help!

Model HTC HD2

Android Version 4.0.4

Build Number IMM761

MOD version IceCreamTosti v1.2 AOKP
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] samsamuel:
Netmask is nearly always 255.255.255.0

Network prefix is nearly always 24

Yes static works fine. Settings - Wi-Fi - Long press the wifi connection - modify - show advanced.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tHErACEcAR:
My nexus 7 (4.1.1) stutters every 7-8 seconds during all video playback (Netflix/YouTube/local). It even occurs with WiFi turned off and playing locally stored content (Transformers movie). Anyone else have this issue or know how to fix?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oraclegustavo:
We had another thread going on this but it seems to buried now. You are not alone 'it's happening to me too. It is also happening on games for me too. I think it may have something to do with 4.1.1 update as others and I didn't have problem on 4.1. I am trying to flash a 4.1 ROM but am having issues at the moment doing so.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mi7chy:
Not problems here with 4.1.1 watching Transformers end to end twice. Try doing a factory reset and retry the videos stock.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] az18zz:
Did yu mess the build prop? Like did yu try out the tablet mode?

Nexus 7 of HELLBoy
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] big samm:
I also get some stuttering when I use Netflix but not on sling player nor YouTube

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tHErACEcAR:
I made a copy of build.prop but didn't modify the original file. I'm rooted on latest build.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] az18zz:
I had changed the density so I can have it in tablet u.i mode but I switched back I put 213... But I had remembered for some reason it was at 212 before I even changed it, but I put 213 cause everyone on xda said that's was what the original number was... Check & see if it's at 212 of not changer it to 212... It worked for me

Nexus 7 of HELLBoy
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hardrada111:
Found a fix

Go to Settings then Developer Options and check Disable HW Overlays,

seems to solve it, not sure why.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oraclegustavo:
Well from what I've researched what it tends to do is pool the system memory so I don't think it's a good idea to turn it off. When you have it turned off each program is no longer being allotted a separate amount of memory. However when I did turn it off and it seem to fix the problem I have with stuttering in games.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StrangerWeather:
That's great shame because it works really well!:crying: