yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Nonek:
I have to say that I'm a fan of you both but I do have one request of RaymanFX. And that is to focus. You tend to flit from one bright shiney thing to another. The result is a lot of half completed projects out there that tend to be somewhat rushed and just thrown together. I also see numerous threads with your stuff that gets thrown up and then questions are answered as best they can be by other people because your again mesmerized by the new thing. I never see Tim do that and he also doesn't have "My kernel is great" In the title which truth be told can sometimes seem pretentious, but his work really is solid. And if he messes something up he fixes it quickly and he responds and listens to his users on a regular bases. I respect that immensely.

Listen, your a smart guy.. Your pumping out a lot of stuff. I would love for you to focus here (or anywhere for that matter) and just have a tad more humility and direction.

Honestly I think the community would benefit hugely if you focused on one ROM / project and bring that to maturity. Honestly I'm afraid to go to your stuff because you kinda leave your threads twisting in the wind.

I hope this wasn't too critical.. I just think that if you guys can both work together well that you guys could do some amazing stuff.

I'll shut up now. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] grgmre:
I have a couple of questions. Will the next EOS rom be using 4.2 or 4.2.1? As 4.2.1 is essentially a bug-fix is it being used, or is it still to early to ask about?

Secondly, are we going to seeing the new soft button locations (phone interface) or is the tablet interface working? I read somewhere it's built in, just disabled?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] timduru:
We're working on doing that no worries ;)

RaymanFX has reverted the previous changes and pushed the first few chirurgical changes needed for 4.2,

and it got merged this morning :)

I'm now working onto getting the thing to compile and test it

and then we'll see where to go from there and eat the bugs one after the other ;)

4.2.1 has been already merged so it should be there from the start.

As for the interface, the default is supposed to be the "phone interface" in 4.2

The tablet interface can be brought back too, so i guess we'll see what will be the preferred behavior in EOS.

Maybe add a setting to choose between the 2 later on.

I for one would even prefer a 3rd option: have the damn buttons at the top like good old times,

because having them centered at the bottom of the screen with the TF101 docked is a pain to use as the keyboard is in the way for your hand to reach. :P

That would also save space, because we'd only have one bar instead of one of the top and one at the bottom ;)

I guess we can see about that later on, once we get a working 4.2 first.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] DowntownRDB:
+1 on the 3rd option for the exact reason that you listed. Looking forward to an amazing product coming from you both. Super glad all worked out well. :good:
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ferparedes:
Just realized, after copying some music, that I'm missing he music player. I did install gapps, because I have gmail, search, etc. Did I do something wrong? Or where can I get the app? (Running 81)

Thanks!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] asdfzz:
You can find Google play music on play store
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Hammerfest:
This... but he probably means Apollo or one of the other Default music players that generally show up in rom's...

Ta~
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Gatak:
random reboots when idling (solved)

For a long time I've had random reboots when the pad has been idling or in sleep mode. Very annoying if its left on the bed side table and the bright screen turns on - not to mention 20% bat usage over night because of xx amount of reboots.

I just got hold of KatKernel_69 from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1985882 and since it has been stable for two days :) yay!

Only one issue is that sound seems to die (no sound from any apps until I reboot) now and then. Not sure if it is cause by any specific app or if it happens by itself. I have tried to disable volume+ now so we'll see what happens.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] jonnyjb:
I really don't understand why they went to the phone interface on a 10" screen its such a waste of space, I would like it to be the normal Eos tablet way, like it is now, first then bring different options later. That's just my 2 cents, thanks you very much for taking the time and energy to do this for us all it is very appreciated.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Gatak:
Well, the kernel has FUSE support, so why don't we get fuse-ntfs-3g - a userland filesystem for linux that is much better for ntfs drives than the stock kernel one. Also, all we need is someone to compile the sources for the ntfs-3g module...

I guess we could do the same with the kernel module.

Is there a specific reason why TeamEOS is not doing it?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] yosi199:
I've tried every version since 50 and I've tried version 54. I actually think they've broke something in this version - It is way more laggy then the previous version 53 and 52. Also Quadrant standard is giving ~1820 result while with previous version I got 1900+.

I'm reverting back to 53 as we speak.

I always do factory delete and cache wipe before installing the roms.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ilangoadigal:
Mine was not rooted upon install, couldn't restore anything through Titanium. Downloading SU and updating the binaries didn't make a difference.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] moorie:
Hey,

Just installed but I'm slightly lost!

The ROM so far is fantastic but I've just attempted to use Google Now using the instructions from the OP but the option to install offline isn't there at all? I have the latest ROM with Gapps flashed.. missing something?

Thanks!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] dude2k5:
So from what I'm seeing, don't do 54 update? Has some issues?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] AmeriKan47:
I have been running 54 for about 2 hours and I have had 0 problems. I flashed it over 53 and just wiped the cache and dalvik cache. Will post if I have any problems later today.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] chvybeatsford:
It's located in the Google now options..run Google now and u will see a settings.. can't member where as I don't have the tablet with me.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] sdfghi:
I dont understand why the option for 'just once' was added when opening a new file. Its redundant and so irritating.

BTW the rom is amazing, so smooth. Just wish the devs upgrade their apps to avoid so many FCs.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] moorie:
Run Google now? Stand alone app? I don't have anything preinstalled? Thanks!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Gatak:
Just press the Google text in the top left corner (not the microphone). Not that I understand the fuss about Google Now. It is rather useless in my view... :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] voyager_s:
I found a bug with the Engadget app. It Crashes in portrait mode and is generally quite slow in both portrait and landscape. Just thought I would report it here if anyone is interested.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] josteink:
After running a few of these latest builds, I have to say I'm seriously impressed. This is suppsedly just "Work in progress" and already almost as stable as most TF101 ICS ROMs after 6 months of work.

Only thing I'm missing from my old CM9-based Megatron ROM is the status-area battery-level indicator. Given how much smoother and nicer this is, I can live without that, no problem. Was just wondering if that is a "standard" CM9 feature which will get ported to team EOS eventually, or some custom Megatron-only hack?

Anyone know? Answers would be appreciated :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] bobloadmire:
Build 54 is rebooting on me, switching back to Build 53, which is stable. Yes I cleared caches.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Ivanovic:
Same with me!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] josteink:
Or maybe a seperate APK which I can just transfer? Anyone? :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Brand New:
Is there an app/mod/build tweak I can use to make my soft buttons/notification bar smaller? :D

Also this rom is great! My TF is actually usable now!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] karapoutsoglou:
i only miss my gps cause i cannot lock on any sat.

other than that THIS IS THE BEST ROM i ever experienced in any device.

Sooo smooth,i love JB.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] pmco:
The only thing I am really missing, having made the jump from Megatron, is the quick-apps (and the horizontal recent apps). Highly doubt Ricardo would/will open that up to everybody though.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] pops106:
Hello,

Anyone else getting the odd browser crash, running 54 at the moment. Maybe had 4 or 5 browser just disapears doesnt fc or anything. Open it again and it takes me back to my default webpage.

Everything else is working awesomely, loving jellybean.

Really is super fast and smooth coming from stock non rooted had the tablet for about a year and decided not to wait 6 months or more for stock jellybean from asus.

I do slightly miss some of the asus widgets though, the clock/weather and the little email widget, can you download them anywhere?

Cheers guys
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] TheUndertaker21:
seems to be happening to all JB builds

im running this everything is awesome but battery drain fast when i use it but when its on sleep mode it lasted 2-3 days.

i wanna see some theme chooser for this rom :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] chazzdjr:
I am personally looking forward to the new phone layout on my tf101. It'll be a nice change.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] st0nedpenguin:
A change that brings about a pointless loss of screen space. :mad:
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] the_unlocker1997:
I also like the change because i find myself haveing more space then i know what to do with and i dont wont to put a bunch of random widgets that will probably make it slow so thats my opinion:)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] chazzdjr:
Well the good thing is you can always stay on 4.1.2.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Hammerfest:
or have a non space wasting 4.2.1...
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] st0nedpenguin:
If I can't disable it in EOS I'll just run PA, so no worries.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] JoinTheRealms:
I like the status bar at the top, gives it more of a gnome'ish feel which is moving in the right dirction for 10in tablets, shame about the bottom bar tho, would be better if they just left the buttons there and got rid of the whole bar. It would also be good if the status bar was moveable around the screen like the windows taskbar.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Hammerfest:
talk about the mind bending insanity that is wanting a windows feature on a linux/android based device...

I like the status bar, but I dont like the constant shrinkage of my screen space and displacement of objects (I hold the tablet for the perfect setup as it is right now in ICS/JB.1.2)... I bought a 1280x800 tablet to be as close to said resolution as possible, not 1280x600 (the future, going by the trend of ever increasing status/notification bar sizing increase's)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] grgmre:
I like having my button/notification options at the bottom left and right. After all, that's where my thumbs are. It seems a needless change to place things were they're not ergonomically positioned.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] the_unlocker1997:
These last two pages were more interesting than reading a book:D
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ferparedes:
Best argument, tbh.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] stenc55:
Agree. On 7" tablet I don't care where it is. On 10'1", my thumbs are bottom left and right.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] st0nedpenguin:
Similarly, middle doesn't bother me on a device that's being held in a portrait orientation. But with a device that spends 95% of the time landscape, sticking them in the middle is just plain lunacy.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] jhanford:
Even Microsoft (yes I did that without using the $ key) did a bunch of research for Windows 8 around the 'hot' areas on screen which is why you have the charms bar on the right and the task switcher on the left.

From a usability point of view, this makes the nexus 10 look a little silly
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] timduru:
Interesting talk in the last few pages indeed. :)

Maybe google should run that kind of surveys more often.

It seems that in the end the best solution would just be to let the end user choose exactly where he wants the bar & the buttons anyway.

Just like any modern OS should do it imho, it's not new that windows, gnome & kde have been allowing the user to do that for years ;)

It's weird that such a "modern" OS like Android doesn't have that coded from the start.

I'm curious though, for those preferring to have the button on the bottom left on a tablet:

- do you have a dock ?

- how are your positioning your hands to hold the tablet be it with and without dock ?

When it's not docked on mine I tend to hold the tablet in landscape, and position my hands flat on the left and/or right side 'behind' the tablet,

and so my thumbs are in front of the tablet naturally heading toward the top left and ride sides of the tablet.

Hence why I think it's more natural to have the buttons on the top, as in their "rest" positions my thumbs are already there.

That's why I'm a bit curious when some are saying that their thumbs are naturally facing down.

I guess it's a difference on holding the tablet, but I can't really figure out how to have my thumbs feel natural & facing down.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Kasush:
I will try and describe how I hold it.

Bottom corners in the palm of my hand with pinky fingers under bottom edge.

Middle three fingers behind for support and thumbs either along side edge or bottom edge depending on action being performed.

Either directions my thumbs face they never reach beyond bottom half of tablet. Equally natural feeling thumbs down or up for me.

Attached image.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] timduru:
okie, I see,

I tend to hold it from the left side in the middle, that makes it more balanced with one hand I find too.

But I guess the way you're holding it from the bottom left is what makes a difference in preferences.

Anyway ;)

in the meantime on the EOS 4.2.1 side:

I got the current branch to boot and work for the TF101, pending a few packaging issues that cost me a few hours loss, it works ;)

Audio & wifi working ;)

BT is barfing, so it most likely needs a few minor changes in the hw layer or conf change.

It's a painful and long process to find, but progressing slowly at least ;)

Interface wise, the current status is that it kept the position of the bar and buttons as before.

(might be that we should change it to phone ui in the tf101 tree though)

One slight change concerns the recent apps, they are organised horizontally now.

(not really my personnal preferrence though)

Will see how / if that evolves.

There's still quite some work left to do on the EOS specific code it seems too, EOS settings are crashing currently and so on, so it's not there yet on that side either.

Wait & see. :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] grgmre:
I hold mine the same way Kasush does, unless I'm reading in bed. I still find it comfortable to 'reach' down with my thumbs though.

I do have a dock, though in all honesty it's used as 'the place to put my tablet when I'm done with it' more than anything. If I knew then what I know now, I'd probably have gone with a much cheaper screen protector. :)

---------- Post added at 06:21 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:20 AM ----------

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to this one a lot.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] bigrushdog:
Wow. What did I walk into here lol! I just figured you guys were on the same page. So I just merged all the commits without prejudice or question. Personally I've always taken a hands off approach on the tf series because I don't have one and don't know squat about them. Rayman and Timduru you are both very talented and I'll need all the help I can get. So is everything cool now?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] old.splatterhand:
This is the best experience i've had on my TF101:

TeamEos #81 & KAT Kernel #69

This rocks!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] bigrushdog:
Oh I got some commits in open that should clean up some of the wonk. Also I think I found why you're getting the old school tablet ui. Yes that was a surprise to me. That's why the phone eos settings show. But take a look in open and see if any of that helps.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Gatak:
I fully agree! With the KAT Kernel #69 all Random reboots have stopped =)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] RaymanFX:
Imma cherry-pick your open changes and compile a new version for the TF101.

Will see if this helps or if it breaks and review when done, if it's not already merged then.

Got my first build succesfully compiled yesterday, by far less issues than timduru got, but those were related to his otapackage, I hope he can fix it up real soon.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] timduru:
Yeah no worries, we'll make it work. ;)

*removes the tape from RaymanFX's mouth* ;)))

Coolie, will try that, thanks.

Okie, so we are supposed to get the new phoneUI after all, was pondering that earlier.. :)

Yeah as I said by email it works fine, the few issues were just because of the kernel blob that was not flashing ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] bigrushdog:
Ok. Watch out for the cleaned up header one. If it borks easy fix. Also, are you guys cool with the tablet UI for now? In time all the UI styles will be dynamic anyway. But we gotta get stable first. Also I'm pondering removing the performance settings from eos system settings. We've got so many kernels it should be in each devices device settings apk.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] bigrushdog:
I'm mobile so it's hard to quote.

Show/Hide bars is accessible in power menu or as a softkey action or ring target.

Yes. It's is "supposed" to have phablet ui. I think i pulled some wonk on PhoneWindowManager lol. I'll push something to open. I can see I'm gonna have to get a Nexus 10 because I can't work blind like this. It's cramping my style big time :p
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] timduru:
okie :)

yeah not easy when you can't test for sure. :)

Btw is there another tablet than the TF101 booting with the JB-4.2.1 branch atm ?

Or which device would you say to be the most up to date or the reference for EOS in the JB-4.2.1 branch ?

So that we can have peek in its tree to get a few ideas if needed ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] marksterbate:
Anyone else having issues with any browser randomly disappearing? Doesn't necessarily fc, just minimizes? Doesn't matter if I'm using Chrome, Firefox, dolphin etc. I'm on kat kernel 69,but I've tried with stock kernel and still does it. Wipe cache and dalvik and fixed permissions and still no dice.. Suggestions?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] morphuex:
Mines been doing that, its been bugging the heck outa me. Not sure whats changed or why its happening. I disabled javascript seems to be a temporary fix because some pages won't load right, if someone knows a solution to this it'd be much appreciated.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Konfuddle:
So I've been running this rom for a bit now. However, I am unable to read some USB drives through my dock. Is there something I'm doing wrong? I've tried multiple file managers and I view them through root/Removable/*

Any help would be appreciated.

I'm running Build 81 on KatKernel 69.

EDIT: I think the issue is on my end, my apologies. I've managed to get my 8gb USB flash drive to read. My 16gb flash drive is not mounting; I'll reformat and attempt again.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] old.splatterhand:
No problem with Opera Mobile here.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] marksterbate:
Did this happen with other nightly builds? New to eos, love it but it happens so often and it's killing me
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] st0nedpenguin:
Uninstalling Flash or setting plugins to manual load usually fixes the crashes for me.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] mpcjanssen:
Setting plugins to manual made the issue less frequent for me. Disabling OpenGL rendering seems to have fixed it. This actually makes sense as the NVidia OpenGL drivers are seriously borked.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Sean-El:
This is exactly what I was going to post. I love tablet ui
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] marksterbate:
It's pretty laggy without openGL rendering, don't use flash too often, so I might just have to suck it up for now! Thanks fellas
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Sean-El:
If I can make a request I would ask that if possible can we please keep the tablet ui? This rom has been the only one I have stayed with for more than 2 weeks. It is prefect with tim's kernel. Currently been on it since you released it. My thumbs are on the bottom and I feel like the phablet ui would screw it up. That's just my 1 thing though so if it is too hard or causes problems then nevermind.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Gatak:
I have no fix for the stock browser, but try Chrome browser or Opera Mini Next/Opera Mobile. Both are great.

Only FireFox (and the beta) stll has remnants of support of Flash.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] the_unlocker1997:
I kind of like the phablet ui and i think they should have an option for the software bottons whether you want the in the middle or on the sides:)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] chazzdjr:
+1 for phablet ui!!!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] marksterbate:
Flash works on stock browser, but crashes sometimes when the Window with the flash video on closes, same deal with Firefox.. Chrome just doesn't feel as smooth or fast as stock to me, think I just gotta stop force feeding flash to jellybean:(
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] pkfox:
Hi all, Is this ROM going to be developed any further ? Long time ( for a nightly ) since 81 was released. Its still the best jb release for the tf101 by far.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] grgmre:
Yes, it's still being worked on. Jellybean 4.2 seems to be a bit of work for everyone to get right.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Detection*:
#81 is perfect for me, no hurry for an update at all
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] pkfox:
Ok thanks - thought it might have died a death
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] st0nedpenguin:
Oh man it sure is nice seeing all those changes to the TF101 tree.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Tuborg68:
Dang, starting to get touch screen issues. Same thing happened on last version of stock rom before I went custom.

It's like scrolling "sticks" for example in tapatalk, browser etc.

This seems to have started when I installed KAT Kernel 69. Running eos build 81.

Anyone else noticed this?

Skickat från min Transformer TF101 via Tapatalk 2
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] sttovo:
I got this too for a while. It's the network connection pausing to get more data. For me, the fix was to use a different governor, I use smartassv2 and noop. Been fine ever since. Oh, I'm on EOS 81 with timduru's 69 kernel. I would suggest trying different governor and IO settings until you get the best performance.