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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pericopalotes1973:
Google´s verification?

is that step part of "nexus" certification?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Nickedynick:
No. Google verify any Android builds from manufacturers which contain the Play Store.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
So if I'm getting this right it could be any day now, if Google approves. :) all my devices should get the update in the coming weeks, yeehaa :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dgjl:
Thanks demandrin, your relentless upbeat optimism is always a tonic on the atp form (for me anyway)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rand33099:
Thanks for the update. But the real question is what does Gary think of you buying a "Samsung" product? It had to have come up in conversation.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Gremlin001:
Thanks from me to. Still, I think I'm going to keep my hope in check. I'm giving it till the end of October at which point I'll bite the bullet, unlock, and flash one of the JB roms.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Lmao. It actually hasn't come up. Plus I did buy an Asus/Google Nexus 7 also ;) but its not like I was on their payroll or under any obligation or something. To be honest, I really wanted to buy an infinity pad. But this time around I was on the other side looking in. Meaning I wasn't an early adopter of it. So I kept reading the xda users posts on it. It was like this forum. Some love it and some complained of serious issues. I was paying more attention to the issues. Seemed to suffer alot of the same problems like Prime did. As far as slow I/O performance and heavy duty games constantly crashing and browser ANR. So around that time the Note 10.1 was released. I loved its specs and the demo videos of it. Plus I was always hearing from certain people here about Samsung. So I was curious to see what it was like. Since I got it from Best buy, I'd have 30 days to test it out and switch for an infinity if i don't like it. Because I still do have my prime dock. Which is just sitting in its box. Samsung experience and Note 10.1 surprised me. It runs very well out the box. Haven't had any issues at all with it. Its very stable and does anything I throw at it. I'm still constantly checking infinity forum to see if jb update dropped or any major breakthroughs software or stability wise. I still have time left to decide whether I want to keep the Note or switch for Infinitu. Its looking like I might keep the Note since its performing so well. Its completely stock also.

I'm actually getting more interested in win8 scene. Asus is releasing 3 new win8 tablets/hybrid. But if MS releases the Surface for rumored low price of $200, then I'd likely get one. That'll be more foray into win8 scene. I'm not trying to build a stockpile of tablets..lmfao.

Honestly, I do miss my Prime and Androwookie rom with motley kernel. My nexus 7 been running great also. Stock rom with Motely or Trinity kernel is very good.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
I have brought this issue up in the past... & I will say it again.

I have nothing against you or your intention on this issue...

My issue is with Asus & Gary Key.

I really don't understand how he continues to filter INFORMATION to you but not to others.... You do not own Transformer Prime, but you continue to come off as FORUM representative to this device due to Asus/Gary Key continuing to respond to you...

while many others, including myself..... are still waiting for a "reply". The information Gary responded to you... Gary could have said it himself.

Either way, I don't expect JB to solve anything (if TF300 JB update is any indication).......
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] peterk-1:
I'm afraid I must agree with shinzz. In this instance there is an official thread that has been kept clean of posts other than Asus's. I have yet to see any communications from Asus that give me any confidence that the company even has internal communications between the divisions. The asus uk facebook for example has these posts in the last couple of days :

OK ASUS UK, put your fingers in your ears; close your eyes and start humming loudly because I'm going to ask a repeated question:

When will the Infinity be available to buy in the UK??

Asus, you dissapoint me.

Does anyone know where in UK I can buy the Infinity?

Well ASUS. Having been waiting far too long and Judging by the numerous requests for info on when and where to get the Infinity tf700 in the U.K. And your obvious lack of response, commitment and contact. I'm buying an ipad.

Reading all the negative comments on here and the lack of availibility in the UK is making me have 2nd thoughts. I just don't understand why I can get one imported from Germany, France, Korea or the USA easily but nothing here in the UK?

I really don't want to go to Apple but for customer support they have all you alternative manufacturers beaten hands down

There is also a humerous post Where can I buy one of these? http://imgur.com/a/29eFy#0 I will pay monies

If I was the CEO sitting in Taiwan I would not be happy
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Si_W:
If you buy an iPad and somebody answers this, you won't be able to get to the place using iOS 6....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] digitalman88:
this response is encouraging. looking forward for the release..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CekMTL:
Yep ... I am also considering very seriously selling my TF to someone that is very interested and for a good price.

Now,...my opinion of Asus remains and has been multiplied by a factor of 10... many years ago I did work with them, and quality wise...bad bad BAAAAAAAAD.

Enviado desde mi Nexus 7 usando Tapatalk 2
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bluefoam:
So you had first hand experience of them being bad bad BAAAAAAD, yet you still bought their products...!? Not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] The_Stranger:
From the other topic:

On the Swedish ASUS facebook. (translation via google translate)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lorthirk:
So it seems we're almost there?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cenonmin:
Its coming http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-tf201-in-sweden-no-word-on-other-countries/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] point_pt:
ohh... the beta testing hasn't startyet? :(

damn... they are really starting do abandon prime... :mad:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Not really abandoning it. They are just still working on it. It actually could be on it's way to release to be tested any moment now. There's also possibility they will bypass testing, by us, and just release it. Then there's slight, minute chance they say F this ICS update and just push JB. I want the latter to occur..lol

They haven't abandoned prime though. If they would have, they would've never officially announced we will get JB. I know they not moving as fast as we would like, so I understand feeling mad on the long wait. the next update or 2(JB) will hopefully be worth the wait.:highfive:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] point_pt:
Fortunately, my Prime is working fine. A few lag and crashes, a few times, but nothing i should worry about, so the update is not a real priority for me.

I have a GNex, with JB and is really good, so i'm waiting for the JB on Prime :D

Note: Most problems i have on Prime occurs on Google Talk, and guess what, i have the same problems on GNex when the WiFi signal is low...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] seeknom:
I agree. If they're close on an i/o fix for ICS, get it out asap to relieve the pain people are experiencing with .28, but otherwise, I'd say forget ICS and focus on JB.

I can understand why people are frustrated though, because every time a firmware update is released, we say "hopefully the next one will be *the one*."

And at this rate, "2 firmware updates= approx 8 months", so it's not really that comforting a thought (basically saying "hopefully all will be good a year from now".)

:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Moist:
So the tf700 received an update this morning which improves io a little. Glad a device that's been out 8 months hasn't had that attention! Not.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tshoulihane:
I'm guessing that all of these tegra3 devices are all pretty similar, and it would be madness if they can't build new images for them all with any low-level improvements quite trivially. It also makes sense to release the images in stages just in case there is a problem - but I'd expect all 3? 4? devices to get updates on the same sort of tick.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tshoulihane:
To be honest, that review doesn't shine with a high level of technical understanding. There may be an element of truth to it, but maybe only by luck. All 3 random write benchmarks he quotes are the same, doesn't explain why the Prime seems to exhibit this bad IO behaviour.

Not saying hardware doesn't contribute, but the hardware seems to be more of a limiting factor for burst accesses. Anyway, the iosched is able to fix up this random write issue he talks about.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] slybarman:
I'll take your word for it. My technical understanding isn't good enough to know either way.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] josuetenista:
Just got the update on my infinity and it has improved a lot i/o performance. Now iis using cfq and deadline. I think the tf prime will get the same treatment

Edit: Asus also include Chrome with the update, and that's part of the jelly Bean apps
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
prime is likely getting the exact same update. Gary mentioned update would likely include some jellybean features. now infinity pad has chrome. so i expect Asus to push this update out to primes shortly. I'm guessing they bypassing the testing phase on this new update. more so testing by xda members.

sounds like good news. default scheduler was noop across devices. now they adding in deadline and cfq. technically prime been had those schedulers and more but we don't have the low level I/o improvements like you inifinity pad owners just got. Maybe this week update pushes out. lets hope so.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] whycali:
Just had a coworker with the tf700 rerun his rl benchmark (I spoiled his new tf700 fun by making him run it the day he got it from tiger direct) his overall dropped from 137 seconds to 55. An improvement for sure.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xxgmon3yxx:
Might as well jump on one of the cm10 builds on the dev forums I'm happy so far with JB and performance.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] YoMarK:
Although most custom ROM´s are performing better and are smoother then stock, they do not solve the below-par I/O performance on the Prime. This issue is more kernel/driver related, and all custom ROM's use a kernel (more or less)based on the Asus kernel source.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Sigh, I came very close to throwing my Prime into the wall last night...

Had ATP connected to my HDTV for Olympics using NBC Live Extra App...

And... WIFI would drop.... Screen tear/artifacts would show up... uggh...

When are they releasing the next update?? If the next update doesn't improve......
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
If i knew I'd tell ya.

But have you heard about what 2 new tablets just passed through FCC? The new Asus 600(tegra3 windows RT) &Asus 810(11.6in. Full blown new windows OS Intel chip). I'm very interested in seeing what this window tablet scene is about. I wonder how much the top of the line 810 will cost? I know the RT will be priced around the same same infinity pad or so. Anandtech seems to think the RT one is the future of windows OS on tablets though. Windows running off of ARM. What do you think? Would you buy an Asus windows tablet?

Question: did you root and unlock your prime?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
No, I refuse to purchase another Asus tablet in this generation. Until their QC improves... I'm staying away from their products.

As for Asus Win RT tablet... def. not. You should skip Win RT devices at all cost this year....

If you had to choose between Asus 600 or Asus 810... go with Asus 810 & Clover-trail tablet.

As for ARM tablet in Windows sector... while you can be optimistic.. you should see how it plays out. The price between WinRT & medfield/clovertrail/trinity tablets should decide if ARM has a future with Windows. One offers FULL OS(x86) .. while WinRT only offers metro (and poor ecosystem at launch) with locked bootloader. If the price difference is only $50 or so... I do not expect ARM to do well...

Also, most of the PC gaming devs/scene are already furious with Windows 8 as I expected & was something I was very concerned about (although e.mote simply brushed it off).....So, if you are really into gaming... of which.. I think you are... ARM simply isn't the way to go with Windows either.

Plus, many of the OEMs are actually waiting it out on ARM... along with MS declining/limiting some potential ARM Window tablet makers.

As for Tegra 3 and Nvidia in general... I don't have a single good thing to say about them. Perhaps Tegra 4 or 5 will be better.... but I would stay away from Tegra 3.

And finally, no... I refuse to root & unlock this device. I do not wish to give "get out of the jail" free card to Asus.... I'm going to hold them accountable & responsible.

Edit: Btw, Asus 600 & 810 aren't new.... they were announced at Computex... both with 1366 x 768 resolution & 2GB RAM. Plus, it is going to cost more than Infinity 700.... you should expect to shell out at least $600+ just for tablet alone. It will cost you more with their keyboard dock... & basically looks like Transformer Prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theandies:
I am interested in these Window's tablets. My guess is now that I'm in the tablet business I'll be getting one every year or so and hope that MS has legacy SW support in WIN8 or whatever they run in the things.

Are you beta testing the next update for the Prime this time around? DETAILS!!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I'm supposed to be testing it but it hasn't been released for testing yet. last time I spoke to gary on the matter he said it wasn't ready. its possible they could just bypass xda testing and just release it. but I'm honestly in the dark on the matter also. besides knowing new update will address I/O issues and will likely having JB elements in the firmware. its possible they will push chrome as default browser. like they did with the recent infinity pad update that improved its I/O functions. not sure yet on what jb elements could possibly be included. Also this will likely be last ICS update before JB.

I say skip this ICS update and jump straight into JB ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] foxmeister:
Not true!

WinRT ships with Office installed, whereas the full Windows8 tablets will not, which will make the cost differential quite a bit wider given that for many, Office is a requirement for their Windows machines.

This alone makes a compelling case for WinRT - I can see myself picking one up if MS also get Citrix Receiver and an RDP client going for WinRT. The one thing I really miss on Android tablets is a decent Office suite - I've tried them all and the very best of them I'd say rates "ok" for viewing, and subpar for any form of document creation. I can do a lot of my work on my Transformer Prime, but the minute I'm sent an Excel spreadsheet, I almost always have to look towards my laptop (and yes, I've tried CloudOn!).

If MS get the execution of WinRT right, coupled with good hardware and battery life, it could have a great product on its hands. I'd also expect that for any given size/weight, battery life on WinRT will absolutely murder regular x86 Win8 tablets.

Regards,

Dave
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mirox3m:
Office on WindowsRT will not be the same as Office on regular x86, which is the reason it is included for "free". It will be probably better than some of the 3rd party office apps, but nothing similar to the x86 one.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pooblej:
Too true - Lets just get JB out (on stock) and review where we are ...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jordanmw:
Now I am even more pissed off... the infinity got the update before the prime!! What the heck is going on Asus? This is absolutely an insult to all the prime users out there, and makes the statement "screw you stupid prime users, we never intended you to actually buy that thing, you should have waited for the infinity" and "our first priority is our infinity users".

Now I can understand wanting to get the update out to models that are currently on sale and since the prime is discontinued.... we are not as important. How can that be? WE were the ones who snatched up those 201s the moment they were available, we supported their brand, why have they abandoned us? I am absolutely livid at this point... updates have slowed to a absolute stop, our updates from Gary have turned into him just posting marketing garbage in his thread, and all we keep hearing about is how much better the 700 is.

The kick is that since BB is allowing exchange for the 700... there will be many less prime users. Good Job BB for making your customers happy after many of them have not had a properly functioning device for 6 months or more. Now what do the rest of us do?!?!?! Asus needs to step up to the plate and exchange the primes that are out there for 700s.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
1. Yes, you will see metro version of Office 15 for Win RT.... however, don't expect it to be exactly the same as x86 counterpart.

2. Intel's Medfield, Clovertrail & AMD's Trinity SoCs are competitive in battery life/performance as to their ARM competition. While it might not be better in battery life, it is competitive & it offers x86 (Full OS without the locked bootloader) architecture..... Intel & AMD specifically created those three x86 SoC to compete with ARM in battery life, performance, & PRICE.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jupppo:
I think a general exchange is not going to happen. I also think you are right that the prime is abandoned and development ressources are deployed elsewhere. The focus is clearly on new product lines. We were used as beta testers and bugfixers, but now no longer used.

Over the last 15 years I spent thousands os Euros on ASUS products....also, not going to happen anymore.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] foxmeister:
As far as I'm aware, Office for WinRT will be a "desktop" app, rather than Metro (though it may have some sort of Metro front end too) - WinRT does have a desktop "mode" for certain MS apps, Office and IE included.

I don't expect Office on WinRT to be a fully featured compared to the full x86 version, but I still expect it to be a whole lot better than other tablet based office suites - if it isn't MS will have dropped the ball.

If an x86 SoC can compete with ARM in all three of price, performance, and battery life, there wouldn't be much of a market for WinRT at all.

Could be that MS is hedging its bets of course - time will surely tell!

Regards,

Dave
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pooblej:
If this turns out to be true - i will stop purchasing from ASUS and advise everyone I know to do the same.

COME ON GARY ...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jyan_osu:
I don't think it's abandoned..

Asus has gone on record saying the Prime, the TF300, and the Infinity getting Jelly Bean

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/20/...ean-update-transformer-prime-transformer-pad/

Just like how the original Transformer got the ICS update, I think updates will come on down the line to the Prime. It might take a little bit longer, but they should be coming.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knowaczark:
ASUS can give a crap about us fools that bought the Prime.

I believe it is time for legal action...:mad:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jordanmw:
Yes, I am sure it will get jelly bean and still get updates. That really is not the point here, the issue is that we are the early adopters and we are getting passed over for an update that *might* make the thing work better! Sure, we will eventually get it, but that is hardly the point, the update is suppose to improve overall performance and usability... WHO I ask you is more due for that update than the prime users? Apparently the TF700 users who played it safe and waited for it to release before getting a T3 tab. What is the message to your customers there? Something like "We don't care that you bought a product that we rushed, we corrected the problems in our next version of the product so obviously you should have waited." or "Don't buy our new products for a while after release since they might not be ready for the public."
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] htcplussony:
The TF300 hasn't got their i/o fix either. One tablet has to be the guinea pig so why not the infinity users for a while.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chamberc:
You're assuming the Prime's issues can be fixed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jyan_osu:
I think everyone's due for the update.. TF100, TF201, TF300... they should all ..

The thing is this isn't anything new. You have this in the phone business all the time. Newer phones get the updates to the latest OS or fixes first, then it trickles down to old phones.

I've been in this game long enough to know that both sides are going to complain. You'll have instances were a product gets the update earlier but runs into a gaggle of problems and having those with the older model feel good that the newer one is the ones experiencing it. Then you'll have this situation where the newer model gets it and it seems to solve a few issues while the ones with the older complain that they should've gotten it first and have to wait.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
1. That's not entirely true. There are multiple indication by MS itself that Office 15 for Win RT will be "Metro" based in "metro" mode. Desktop mode in Win RT is mostly for file explorer/management. IE 10 is x86 browser... & you won't be able to run full version of IE 10 in Win RT (don't think it will even be included). Thus, you won't see FLASH support for Win RT.

Office 15 for Win RT will be similar to IE 10 of Metro. As in, it will have its own "metro" mode version.....

2. As for x86 SoC (medfield/clovertrail/trinity).... there are some Medfield based Android phones out currently (although, very limited).... & it does offer competitive battery life, performance, & price factor. So, it is an indication of at least how it will fare in the tablet market.....

For example.. this one..

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yumms:
Hey guys don't feel entirely bad, the flash memory in Infinity is just as bad as on Prime. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=29660695&postcount=25

It just preforms better because of faster tegra3 and DDR3 ram.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jyan_osu:
My EVO 3D has horrible random write performance too at .3MB/s .. so some recent devices are the same in that department :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Subintro:
So... Any news at all? I'm just sick of my prime, I want my money back..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
You and me both. Worst purchase I ever made.

So what's the deal, Gary? Now that the Infinity is out, are you done trying to pretend that Asus gives a crap about its customers? No updates, no responses to PMs....Asus typical, I guess.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jetbruceli:
I honestly dont think the Prime can be fixed. I have had so many issues that I just leave it sit where it stands. Its actually much better that way too! I have androwook rom on it and thats all I need.

During one of my flashing times, it messed up the back camera and now it dont work at all. I cant send it back because I unlocked it!

Asus, I still have faith in you but not the prime anymore.

After 6 months with this device makes me wish I waited for something more stable but then again, what is stable in the Android world? Nothing thats why we all unlock our bootloader and load these roms thinking its gonna change stuff