yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] yozgatg:
I have to side with Flinny on this one. He and his team are the ones that ported the 3.x kernel to vision (which is AMAZING stuff, seriously porting this kernel is crazy mayan stuff), and pretty much did all the porting work. And on top of that, they're doing everything in the open at github! I wouldn't have a problem if you just build their repo and post a rom, but the final part of the OP is specifically geared towards donations, which is a big no-go in this case since the real credit and respect should go to the Andromadus team.

* just saw it's removed, so problem solved I guess?

Anyway, just my 2¢
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
I agree that they do amazing work (never said they didn't), and have removed the donation bit... but seriously, I didn't think I built from andromadus, I thought (and still do) it was cyanogen >:(
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tarroyo:
I think the 3.0 kernel is specifically Andromadus, not CyanogenMod.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
you know what. this is too much effort. Flinny hasn't even replied for two hours, and i cba anymore. I'm just gunna stick with porting, and sense. how do you lock a thread?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] spooke:
It's a real shame about what's happened.. I guess you could just remove the download link for now?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] soulaiman:
Cmon guys, don't be so jealous and childish from eachother.

I mean, Android is all about Open Source (sort of) and xda-developers is meant to push that open sourcyness even further to a whole new level. It doesn't matter who created the first bootable rom or stuff like that, you should all be working together and use eachothers knowledge to make a stable rom where everytrhing works. You guys forget that no one own the sourcecode but Google, so unless he literally steal the ROM from you, you don't have to complain that much.

The OP says clearly that he built it from SOURCE. So he did his work and did his best to pleas us.

This reminds me of the Apple vs Samsung thing, where samsung isn't the owner of Android but they get sued because Samsung has the best selling Android based smartphones while this future is present on all other android devices.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Thanks for the support guys, but just leave it please...

Funnily enough though, I got a build with GSM, Audio, texts, mic, calls etc working, but its uses flinny's kernel so :P
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] wileykat:
Oh, cmon geez,..... just make sure yu give props in your intro post and get it up for all to try. You tease you!!!!!!

No, no, in all fairnes i c where ur coming from, how many times must a man apologise!!!!!!!!!!!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Kueber:
This is just about the donation part, right?

So that's removed.. is there any problem now?

I don't understand the turmoil. It's great that we've got something JB'ish going here so soon and credits have been given to all who work on this / made this possible..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] johrie:
Just continue with what you have now. The Andromadus team will do there stuff and you will do yours. The only things that was a problem was the donation part, but that is gone now.

So go on and make improvements to this rom.

If you got Wi-Fi, sensors, GSM working I will test this ROM out as soon as I can.

Untill then keep up the good work ( and you too Andromadus team! )
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bolidegt:
have other way to donate?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Ruprecht10:
Taz please keep posting your rom. As long as you give Flinny and the Andromadus Team credit for the kernel, I don't see why you need to stop. You said you only used Cyanogenmod's repos. I really want to see a fully running jelly bean rom and you seem to be on your way to doing it. Please post that build that has mic, data, etc. Thanks for all your work!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
guys pleeeeeaaaaaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee stop, I'll carry on making roms, but they'll be ports, not source roms, because I don't have enough time for them, and it's easier for me to do ports, and the andromadus team/cyanogen to do the source. I'll ask if I can have permission to use their kernels, but I don't know yet. I may eventually start using source again, but I can't say right now. I don't exactly know where this thread is going now tbh, as Flinny hasn't replied for 4 hours, so idk. I do have another build ready, a port, and its really good, but I don't know if I should upload it or not, purely due to permissions from andromadus.

Right now, my priority is Sensewich.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] captainreynolds:
Yeah, let's just be patient you guys - let the developers here sort stuff out.

I have an idea!

Andromadus team - why don't you just ask xT4Z1N4TRx to join you guys instead? I don't know if you have to be "added" to the team, or if you can just start syncing repos/changes and then be considered "part" of the team or not... I don't know how that all works. While Andromadus has clearly (you guys rock!) proven their talent, so has Taz with other roms before, and this rom here, and I'm sure they would appreciate the help. At the very least he could help reduce the workload. Collaboration should be the name of this here Android game!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] CedricAnne97:
... I know I shouldn't ask for this.... but is the rom that you told about (with working network) going to be released or not? (and does it have google now? I really want to try that out :P )
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blk_jack:
It's more a situation of too many cooks in the kitchen. Right now between Flinny, Flemmard & fyodor they pretty much have all the bases covered. xT4Z1N4TRx is not experienced with compiling from source, let alone github, etc.

Flinny & co already have a very functional CM10 build. Just wait for it to come out (soon) :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Hai_Duong:
WOW so fast i cant believe it :D Can u spoil and say what is working or what not ? What is about the new SENSE 4 kernel with working camera I only heard from it but i dont know if its really working.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] captainreynolds:
Okay! Cool. Cool cool cool.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
this is basically what I was trying to say, haha cheers, I'm going to learn source but not release things. do you know how to do these things?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] scanno:
Well what do you know about git, C, Java and the android build process?

I mean if you start with this some basic knowledge about compiling, make files, linking etc must be present.

Verstuurd van mijn HTC Vision met Tapatalk
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fattire:
I don't' know the full details of this particular instance, just what's been said so far, but generally speaking, if a person or team is working on a kernel or a build, and is gearing up for a release, to snag their 99% completed work and just compile in userspace to say "look at what I did" is a pretty huge **** move.

It's a bit like Da Vinci decides to work in the open, so every night after many hours of painting to get everything just right he leaves his canvas out to dry in front of his house for the next day's work. Some dude walks up a few nights before he's about to release it to the art world and scrawls a crude mustache with a Sharpie, then takes the painting around and says "hey everyone, look what I did! Can I have a donation for being an artist?"

It's a massive F-U to DaVinci and to the public.

If this guy didn't realize that it was still a work in progress, okay fine-- fair enough-- the decent thing to do is apologize, pull the build, close the thread, and let the guys who are actually working on it work on it and release it when they feel it's ready.

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mrvelvet:
It's more like someone takes Red Hat Enterprise Linux source code, compiles it, makes it available free of charge, credits the source, and accepts donations.

Wait... that's CentOS...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] miscz:
Except RedHat does lots of their work in secrecy as they have to release sources after they release their product. CentOS has to wait and debrand it. Taz raced to release unfinished stuff because it was out in the open (thanks to actual devs) and ask for donations. Same story with Virtuous Primadonna and Sensewich ...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ernestnwanu:
All the unnecessary input in this thread though... Let the devs settle this.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mrvelvet:
A lot of their devs submit directly to upstream projects, and a lot of projects are run directly by Red Hat (e.g. NetworkManager). I also don't think it counts as secrecy when most of their work goes into Fedora before it migrates into RHEL...

Such is the nature of open source projects that people can take and compile software freely (even charging for it if they want) as long as they release any modifications to the source and credit the author - that's the point of the licence.

This is probably going off-topic so this is my last post on this.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Wait wait, primadonna and sensewich?? I released sensewich before they even said they were working on primadonna, and I worked with proxuser to port it, that's actually a really stupid comparison... also, once again , I've never ASKED for donations, I've never said "please can you donate to me" :@@@@@
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] miscz:
Arguing about this is pretty much pointless so this will be my last post in this thread.

Virtuous team figured out pretty much most of the bugs that plagued early Sense 4 ports and only after their release, bugfixes trickled down to Sensewich. They'll be the first to have working camera too. When Sensewich gets it actual devs will just get a footnote as with this JB port.

mrvelvet: CentOS wait for RH because complete RH-quality product that they put together is what people are after.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dhkr234:
Yes, but the point that was being made is that CentOS builds RH source code.

And for that matter, UNBRANDED, which basically means UNACCREDITED.

A lot of the difficulty here is in how people understand and use code released under open source licenses.

Flinny overreacted.

I understand where he's coming from (assuming that his accusations are accurate), but he did set up to happen, the code is on a publicly accessible repo and under APL. As such, it is well within the OP's rights to provide the compiled package.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jspina:
OK. No more need to talk about this anymore as taz has stopped. He did not mean to do anything rude at all if he even did ( I don't believe he did since he has been working on this for a while). He is a great kid and does his best so let's stop and be grownups here.

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Nuke101:
Sorry, I gotta call BS on this. Taz stole Flinny's work and passed it off as his own without ANY accreditation. That is scandalous, especially when it was so blatant. People do not realize all taz does is compile other peoples hard work and tries to take credit.... there is a reason Flinny has not released JB, there are still glaring bugs, have patience and be content this is being worked in... people like Taz who pass off others work as their own are a detriment to the community and can make the REAL devs (I.e. Flinny, et al) to get fed up and stop work.

Any ways, hopefully Taz learned his lesson and will give credit where it is due before posting one of "his" roms.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Whoareyou:
Yall are starting to treat him in a way i once remember Jdkoreclipse being treated, he compiled CM6 source and called it his, but he was new to the compiling world, and didnt know better, and got flamed and banned, now, he hates XDA and refuses to return, but he still makes roms, so, unless you want Taz to hate xda and refuse to return, BACK THE F*CK OFF! hes coming from porting to source building, its a whole new ballgame! he made a MISTAKE, SH*T happens!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] oVeRdOsE.:
Wo, I quit apple world because of this kind of thinking.

Android world shouldnt be a way to built some stuff and sharing? You should take other works ( with permission if needed) and trying to do something else to get it work. I think, by posting this rom, taz keep it accessible to everyone.

any way, this phone is kind of old, soon enough it will be in the "old device" section... so enjoy it !
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] spooke:
Can you not read?

Taken from Taz's OP.

I don't get all the hate still, he's apologised for what he did (whether he actually did it or not)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
You know what? I realised my mistake, and I said sorry, and I would discontinue it, but now, you've seriously pissed me off. What was the need of your post? Me and flinny had resolved this, so why are you reigniting it and being a complete douche? ALL I do is compile others work? This is the only rom I've EVER compiled, so you're wrong there. I didn't steal/compile sensewich, so you're wrong there. I didn't steal/compile xperiasense, leedroid, honey sense, I ported them, said so, and gave credit to the developers. So you're wrong there.

Think about what you say next time, asshole, because its not people like me who drive developers away, its stupid, pathetic, good-for-nothing trolls like you, that drive everyone away.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
I don't know if you remember the original Andromadus test thread back in april, but he did say:

dunno bout you but that wouldn't exactly be respecting another's wish.

Though personally I'd rather have more heads beating at a problem (without conflict) than just one group.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
You know what? Forget it. I'm done.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jeffakajeff:
I don't blame you. Bunch of dumb ****s around here. If you go elsewhere please shoot me a pm and let me know :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jeffakajeff:
Looking back through your posts you are completely worthless to xda.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dxaxn:
How many times should taz apologize? He is kid with talent and we are waiting for some jb rom. I just made backup and ready to try and than I have to read all that sh.ts...

Good luck taz and thank you for your work. Hopefully your fans can follow you somewhere in more quite place...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mikechappars:
Little B*tches

So, really the kernel is Linus's if you want to claim an "owner" -- where did you guys get your kernel? Didn't they take the AOSP kernel, combine it with drivers for the device (from the manufacturer or similar source)? If I had any interest in donating(my money goes to beer and women), I would WANT to give to the wolf guy and not those other complainers... Really 99% of the work is done by the corporations driving the whole Android thing -- Google, HTC, etc. and the community is taking their stuff and making it better or making it work on different devices. I saw all this BS on the G1 when all these pathetic losers turned on that Kang guy -- accusations and all this crap. I think that if these complainers had girlfriends/wives this would not happen.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Thijs_W:
Great guys, you pissed Taz off with all the crap you were throwing at him. Great work, that's what we all wanted... NOT! The guy apologized, solved his case with Flinny but you couldn't resist on keep making accusations and telling him what he has done wrong. Proud of yourselves now heh? Looking forward to all your ROM's because you all pretend to a better job with your cockey attitudes.

@Taz, don't let these stupid 'contributors' to XDA make your pleasure in porting ROM's go away. Still love your enthousiasm and your work!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] XxhTcG2uSERxX:
The truth hurts
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
I'll probably just update sensewich one last time, then get a galaxy nexus or something. Unless people want to accuse me of stealing from virtuous lol
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jspina:
would be highly appreciated! But it will be sad to see you go :crying:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] The Android Manual:
.......

aww... Just give em' credit on the ROM maybe that would like fix it?, Guys just chill and this would be sorted out, and stop complaining if you want to get "credit" for the parts used in This ROM then just ask that woudn't hurt right?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] firetiger:
Why can't we look at it from another perspective. Why couldn't Flinny have sent a PM to taz instead of posting it on his thread? If it were done like this, neither parties would have suffered and taz wouldn't leave.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] The Android Manual:
Yeah, that would be better but I think Taz and Flinny have resolved the issue there was just people reigniting the issue :)

check few post back in the thread :)

---------- Post added at 06:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:19 PM ----------

Don't leave taz your ROMs were the first ones I tried when I rooted my phone And they were great so Don't stop making great ROMs for XDA people :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sgtkid12:
You should really do that. I'm about to get a galaxy nexus. Just need to sell my dz.

Sent from my Nexus S
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Sheikmans:
I appreciate your work very much. Don't listen to those idiots. Thanks to you, I really love my Desire Z again ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jerl92:
i agred with Flinny, where's your github xT4Z1N4TRx.. oh you don't have one, you shoud left the gold to the real dev... like i made
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Whoareyou:
COuld a mod PLEASE close this thread? or better yet, delete it! im sure Taz dosent like all this flaming, im just a watcher, and its annoying the hell out of me, GIVE THE GUY A BREAK!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] NeverGone\RU:
Agreed. Let's make a break on this one.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] debbox:
https://github.com/xT4Z1N4TRx/

"Forked from Andromadus/android"
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
wait, what? Your Cyanogenmod 9 ROM is basically the same as this. Compiled from Cyanogenmod, with an Andromadus kernel. Do I feel a sense of hypocrisy?

I agree, its pissing me off now, im not even developing anymore im fed up with half of these people claiming i dont even do anything omfg

I didn't even use that, I wanted to see what forking did lol, i actually forgot about my github :p it has no relevance to this
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Whoareyou:
No, i dont think you should quit, you just need to ignore all the haters, and preserver you are great at this, and your what 16? im 15 and i couldnt do what youve done, ive ported roms and got them stable before, but you make them , is your terms, "FASSSTTTT"!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] debbox:
I just showed him that you had one, didn't say you used it. That was why I made a bold selection in the first quote.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] selfinflicted1:
Gripe, moan, complain.... apology ....more moan and *****ing. Gotta love it. Gets the blood going and if nothing else it makes for a good read.... but it gets old after a while. Its not nowhere near as bad as stealing code and bragging about how you will "own"

the original writer with it. But most don't remember or care about that. As long as they get the new **** for a out dated phone.... I love my g2 btw before anyone makes a comment about that.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
Jesus f**king wow... People still ranting about this?

/sage

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] johrie:
Lol... you did the same. Stop hating taz he just used something that was out in the open. If they didn't want this to happen they should have worked closed source. Now stop this nonsense and just let a mod close/delete this thread.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kbeezie:
This the sing that never ends, someone started singing it not knowing what it was...

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flinny:
Chill people. I should have handled this better its now sorted. I asked that people not use test build stuff in their roms the message has been received and understood. End.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cswroe:
Agree, the herd of dicks have taken it over.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
maybe its Apple's minions. their plan is to destroy android devs and make them never dev anything ever again. another sneaky way to destroy android, not just with lawsuits :p
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] captainreynolds:
No... It's just what Voldemort wants!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] broncogr:
Closed on OP's request
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Tomasz89:
Dear Users,

i´m not happy with the ICS Update of my Xperia S. Because of this, i want to go back to Gingerbread. Is there any chance to downgrade from ICS to GB? If it is possible i want to keep my files (music,gamesaves and so on). My Xperia S isn´t rooted and has a locked bootloader. I´ve used the search but could not find any related topics regarding this on Xperia S.

Please help :( !
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
Use flashtools to flash gb firmware.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1599303
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Tomasz89:
Okay what will happen with my files? Will they gonna be deleted?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
No
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Tomasz89:
Okay flashing from GB to ICS should work with the flashtool without losing any apps and data? And I can just flash from ICS to GB with this tool?

Sorry for my noob questions, i personally have a galaxy nexus and this ohone is for my girlfriend ;-)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
Yes same tool to upgrade and downgrade.

In flashtools you can un-tick wipe user data to preserve all the data but not recommended.

Best way is to backup with a backup tools and restore after flashing what you need.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Tomasz89:
Sounds good :-)

Can I just flash [FIRMWARE][6.0.A.3.75] Central Europe Generic ? Should work I think? I´m asking better two or three times because it´s important that I dont lose any files ;)

I´ve found this: http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/35239 and there is "Wipe data" marked on! It this needed for a successful downgrade?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
Yes you can but read my previous post first.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Tomasz89:
Ah I´ve seen now. I think I try to downgrade without wiping user data first. Then i will root the phone without opening bootloader (so i can use titanium backup) and should I get problems with it I will reflash with GB Rom. Should work, or?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
You are making things very complicated for yourself.

No need to root,just use any backup application without root access.

Only backup the contacts if you didn't by Google account and sms.

All the files in the sd will be intact.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Tomasz89:
Yes i know it sounds not perfect what i want to do :D I´m worrying for the files that arent on the sdcard. She has many games and would not lost the saves. Because I think not all games are saving their files to the SD. What Backup Tool do you recommend for non-root users?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
Try app backup and restore from play store.

Or leave her phone alone :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Tomasz89:
Thanks :D I think ICS is better. I will tell you what happened ;)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] augie7107:
No fuel gauge issues after downgrading?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] augie7107:
Answered my own question. No fuel gauge issues after downgrade confirmed.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] eric1214:
Can i downgrades to gb now？when my is ics up from ota...

And can use this tool downgrades my sony tablet s1?

Thanks your reply

Sent from Xperia S