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[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] rpxz:
What an invalid point. Proof is in the software. What do you get with the s3? I locked phone that is hardly has any customization because developers don't want anything to do with this phone.

At this point, for people who want to mod their phone, the nexus is a better choice. I have the s3 sitting on my desk right now for the last week and won't even touch it because there just isn't enough development support. And lets face it, the bootloader is here to stay, cm10 is moving along at a slow pace and not to mention a workaround way to flash it. It works but as stated, its a forced workaround. From a specs stand point the s3 is an excellent phone, but for people like us, it is kind of lacking. Hopefully this will change since the device is still rather new. So for now, I'll still run my nexus. I support our devs, and I just hope the s3 will be the phone we all want it to be soon.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] droidstyle:
the vzw gs3 has 4 aosp roms and 4 touchwiz roms in two weeks of being released. Take some time a do some research before posting.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Success100:
+1

the s3 has been relatively unchanged across all variants.

what makes you think development aint gonna be crazy??

to the op. i can't understand why u would pick a nexus over the s3. it has everything the nexus has to offer, its newer, more powerful, better camera, amazing battery life and more. the s3 is samsungs flagship device, its gonna get updates. within two weeks, all carriers have a few custom roms, cm9/10, all that. in two weeks!

enjoy it. I don't understand your logic at all but who am i to judge. on another note, i haven't charged my s3 in 14 hours. and I'm still on 48% with moderate usage. lol
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] kanjes:
I have the s3 on verizon and frankly if I had known in advance before I preordered and before the 28th of June that the phone would have a locked bootloader, well... I very well may have goten the GN. I am aware we already have workarounds but they take time to perfect. For example I have flashed aokp, cm9 and cm10. All of which I had severe data issues. I am sure it will be awsome in time but for someone who doesnt want to wait and wants to start flashing custom kernals / stable roms out of the box, this phone may not be the right choice.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Div033:
Locked bootloader or not, at least with the GN you don't have to worry about borking your phone's IMEI from flashing roms/kernels.

Currently there are many roms I'd like to flash, but due to the numerous replacements needed by people who have lost their IMEI I hold off. I understand that flashing has risks associated it with it but coming from a OG Incredible where I could go flash happy without fear (pretty experienced at flashing stuff) this just seems ridiculous.

If this issue does not get solved then it won't matter if Verizon's bootloader is locked. I really hope we can determine the cause or find a way to recover lost IMEI numbers. There have been no successful cases of recovery.

So there it is. GS3 is supremely superior hardware but the GN offers a normal amount of peace of mind when flashing roms and kernels. Of course the GN has a large developer base too, something this phone is beginning to nurture but will not retain should this IMEI issue go unresolved.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] dbdynsty25:
Haha...that's funny. Me too...I bought the GS3 on At&t because I have been out of contract so long I just wanted something new to justify my paying them each month, but I will use the GS3 for a day or two and then right back to my Nexus on 4.1.1. Stock JB is just so far superior to stock TW, I can't stand it.

The only reason I haven't sold the phone is that I'm holding out hope that I can get a stock JB experience with CM10 when it's fully stable. The only thing I don't like about the Nexus hardware wise is the camera...the GS3 runs circles around it in that regard. Otherwise, they are pretty comparable in my day to day use case. Now if At&t drops some LTE goodness in my area soon, I can change my tune!
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] composi:
I don't blame OP. I have a Verizon Galaxy Nexus and an AT&T Galaxy S3, and I prefer messing with the the Nexus (mostly cuz I'm afraid of losing IMEI) much more. I have it running 4.1.1 with a custom kernel and easily can get a full days use and have 40-50% battery left. The Nexus looks sexier than the S3 by far and doesn't feel as cheap. Now of course, there is no comparison when it comes to sheer power, but the Nexus, as old as it may be, is still up to par with current devices. Dual-Core, 1gb ram, 1.2ghz, 4.65" screen? That's still very relevant in terms of hardware even now.

I love my SGS3 though. Overall it is the best phone I've had, but I don't disagree necessarily with the OP's decision, as I have both phones and love them both. I just don't like JB's restriction on side-loading paid apps...but that's another discussion. Also, being that the Nexus is on Verizon, I have LTE literally EVERYWHERE I go, but with the SGS3 I have the bootleg 4G, what I prefer to call 3G with Viagra...have yet to test the SGS3 on LTE.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] twoashj:
1+ for Galaxy s3 so far. it's been working great, and I would totally invest more money on gs3 than nexus!!!:good::good:
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] devilchrist:
I have Verizon GN, and GS3.

GN, even rooted, and whatever still can't get more than 3-4 hours talk time. 2 hour on screen time. For normal users, it won't last you a day with extended battery.

GS3, 10+ hours of talk time, 4+ hours of on screen time. Will last you a whole day and still have left over. (on powersaver mode)

GS3 much larger deployment = better dev support.

verizon GS3.. Locked bootloader :(

Other than that.. pick is yours. even on power saver mode, GS3 is about 2x faster than GN.

I paid full price for the GS3, and it's worth it.

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forgot to add that .. GN has ****tiest speaker phone and SQ EVER on any phone i've had.

GS3 audio on the other hand gives iphone4s a run for it's life.

FYI i'm not rooted. running stock with Nova Launcher.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] M_Shaaban:
I tried the S III and I got the Nexus and so far I don't regret getting the Nexus and extremely satisfied. Except of course of the battery life, but overall I'm fair with my choice
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Ezekeel:
One feature the Nexus has over the SGS3: me. 'nuff said.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] fireboypr:
Samsung Galaxy SIII +1
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] PDXunicorn:
I was debating over the same thing decided to go with the S3. It was definitely the better choice.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] jgalan14:
Yes you do, I have a nexus which will get rid of soon to get my ipad back(someone stole it) and the IMEI is a known problem for gsm users too
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Div033:
So the IMEI thing happens for GSM Galaxy Nexus users? Is this a Samsung problem?
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Monk4Life:
You rarely hear it on the galaxy nexus forums. I have flashed 100s of galaxy nexus roms and have yet to run in to any issues. I am thinking about getting the tmobile gs3 just to check it out. If I don't like it I will just give it to my wife.

Galaxy s3 has better specs but I have yet to run into a instance that my galaxy nexus let me down and when android version 5 comes out let's see which phone has it first and which phone is treated like a red headed step child for months on end. Case in point, how long did it take the us gs2 versions to get a real 100% stable version of ICS?

I am not bashing the gs3 at all but come on people stop comparing it to a Google nexus device. Its not a nexus device so you are going to have to wait on the best developers (cyanogenmod) to port the latest android os and then wait for full functionality or wait for Samsung and then wait again on your carrier. But yes you will have a better camera.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] monstaX:
S3 has removable battery. A micro sd card slot. 4.8 inch screen. Enough said. This is exactlt what made the difference in my upgrade. And if some people are worried about software upgrades. I mean really? We already have previewbuilds of CM10 on this phone. Which is of course JB. What more do you want?!?!! Lol
[Galaxy S II General] senrai180:
Hey guys, came from the sidekick forums. I had a question, my dad just got the s2, and being new to the whole tech thing, I want a rom that's snappy, and just plain easy to use.

Sent from my rooted gift from God 4G running a Gloriously Overdosed ROM using the expensive XDA app
[Galaxy S II General] lyndonguti:
go to vk rom
[Galaxy S II General] Cabeção-Flu:
Welcome

F1 GalaxyNexus is awsome.
[Galaxy S II General] kilometers4:
Well, first off this should be in the q and a section.

Second, you need to read the stickies, because you're not allowed to post a "what rom is better" thread. So this will most likely be closed very quickly

To answer your question, try RootBox rom.
[Galaxy S II General] prbassplayer:
First welcome. Please read XDA Rules and all the stickies for this device specifically this and this. Thread locked.

Cheerrs
[Nexus 7 General] diecast17:
So I started a petition on Change.org asking Adobe to please support Flash on Android 4.1 and higher.

I know Adobe said they weren't going to support Flash anymore, but with the amount of Nexus 7 Tablets being sold I hope that might help them change their mind.

I know some of us thought Flash would work because this is an Android tablet.

Please help in my quest to get Flash supported on this excellent tablet.

http://www.change.org/petitions/adobe-please-support-flash-on-android-4-1-and-higher-please-support-flash-for-android-4-1-and-higher#
[Nexus 7 General] Smokuevo:
Really? Lol
[Nexus 7 General] Raikia:
Dude, let it die. Do you actually use Flash that often? I'm sure people have made petitions to keep the first DOS computers up, but you have to move forward eventually. Flash sucks.
[Nexus 7 General] miketoasty:
http://db.tt/yPslSlqK

Your welcome. Use any browser off of the market.... Well Play Store.
[Nexus 7 General] BaconStep:
He just wants flash support so he can watch porn
[Nexus 7 General] evonc:
Don't bother mike.. there are atleast a few hundred of these threads posted. If they cannot do such a simple search, they don't deserve flash.
[Nexus 7 General] diecast17:
I do like the GameStop Kongregate App and that requires flash. I think Android still needs flash to be better and different then Apple.
[Nexus 7 General] km75:
If you want flash support on your nexus 7 just side load flash and use dolphin HD browser. Problem solved. I must warn though that you have to have the correct version of flash and dolphin HD browser. There was an update to dolphin HD today that disabled flash. Reverted back to the previous version. Problem solved.
[Nexus 7 General] km75:
Maybe he does. But simple things like playing videos (interviews highlights etc) from ESPN don't work without flash. So maybe not.
[Nexus 7 General] wiithepeng:
lol Adobe already marked flash as a dead man evernsince november 2011
[Nexus 7 General] david279:
Let flash die....You would do better by contacting your favorite porn site and telling them to go to html.

Sent from my EVO 4G LTE
[Nexus 7 General] BootlegZani:
So true. I only wanted Flash for Cam4.com. Side-loaded an old version of Flash and then installed the newest version of Flash over it worked flawlessly. I can use both FireFox Aurora and Dolphin. I tried side-loading the stock Browser from ICS but that wouldn't install.
[Nexus 7 General] I Am Marino:
Just let flash die IMO.
[Nexus 7 General] nerfman100:
That's not how you use IMO. [/grammar_nazi]
[Nexus 7 General] Metallice:
Flash works for now. Just be happy for that. Adobe will do whatever it wants.
[Nexus 7 General] hic9582:
I hope this thread gets shut down
[Nexus 7 General] jsm7483:
Flash is Trash
[Nexus 7 General] babygetoboy:
Done
[Nexus 7 General] dreamer3kx:
+1
[Nexus 7 General] thevuman:
Anyone who says flash is trash... Enjoy browsing 60% of the Web and it's features.
[Nexus 7 General] glowworm62:
Bugger, this means I will need to start a counter petition on change.org to keep flash off the devices and keep the direction to it's final demise moving.

HTML5 > flash. Remove flash from the Android ecosystem and developers have more reason not to try and use it.
[Nexus 7 General] duddy:
Oh for the love of...JUST LET IT DIE!

The sooner everyone moves to HTML5 the better. Keeping Flash alive is like keeping Internet Explorer 6 alive.
[Nexus 7 General] corys00:
Nah, porn is more than watchable on the Nexus 7 right out of the box. He just needs better sites!
[Nexus 7 General] duddy:
The 40% is crap anyway. Please show me one popular website that requires Flash and that doesn't have an app.
[Nexus 7 General] danmanx:
Is the real reason flash is being moved away from because of the memory or CPU requirement? Or is it because its closed sourced or something? I would love a logical answer to this question. I personally don't care about flash as long as my special websites load.

:D

Woo woo woo....
[Nexus 7 General] evonc:
I believe their reason was the fragmentation of different versions of Android and the number of roms, each customized by manufacturers.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 General] bballer71418:
Yes, as people are saying, LET FLASH DIE! Sure it may be a painful 6 months but the web and all of us will be better for it. When basically every large tech company plans on dropping flash, and the actual creator admitting to its faults, I think we all should just let it go. It was what we needed at the time but further advancements and developments have been made to produce a much better product. Please stop this, for everyone's sake.

P.S. I've watched plenty of porn using HTML5 ;)
[Nexus 7 General] glowworm62:
As one of the prime movers in the ongoing distruction of the blight that is flash has said:

He also wrote

and

My biggest reason outside these ones an industry figure mentions though is it's like swiss cheese. Flash has always been an insecure platform with too many rights to the underlying system. You have a bigger chance of picking up a nasty using it than you would have even doing something as risky as trawling up a whore from the street of Bangkok.
[Nexus 7 General] fenturi:
Why would they update it to disable the one thing people were loading it for?
[Nexus 7 General] NJGSII:
Meh got the ole laptop and if I'm really lazy, the one x for that.

(Note to self: don't ever list laptop or phone for sale on xda).
[Nexus 7 General] fenturi:
The cash cow that keeps the net running aka the banner ad, is still deeply flash.
[Nexus 7 General] I Am Marino:
How so?

In my opinion?
[Nexus 7 General] foxmeister:
BBC iPlayer! If you live in the UK, you almost certainly want to use it.

It has an app, but the app requires Flash too.

Of course, the BBC should never have used Flash in the first place for Android as they could have tweaked the iOS streams to make them compatible with both iOS and Android, but that's a different story.

Regards,

Dave
[Nexus 7 General] spongaweb:
Justin.TV uses flash right, my only TV for me
[Nexus 7 General] colonel187:
Adobe isn't going to change their minds. This thread is pointless.

my brother in law programs for adobe and says they are abandoning flash on all mobile platforms.

On a side note, the next few PC flash versions are going to enable full hardware utilization. Meaning there are going to be flash based web games with graphics that rival disc based installed games. He showed me a tank game on a intraweb website with the beta flash and its amazing.
[Nexus 7 General] micks_address:
have to agree that the sooner flash is gone from mobile devices the better.. its just way to battery heavy and cumbersome..
[Nexus 7 General] fenturi:
This is just my thoughts, I think it is CPU requirements and trying to serve two masters. Flash is far from dead on the desktop, and is being used to develop online games, and of course most banner ad networks still only support flash and gif for movement.

If you want to make the game people happy, you need to push CPU, but then you loose the tablets. Given that when these choices were made apple had huge market share, and refused to run flash, Adobe followed the money and put support to desktop.

I have also always felt that Macromedia gave flash more love, and would be a very different game. Steve Jobs had a personal hate towards adobe, I feel that played a huge role in his "no flash" views. If it had been Macromedia things would have been different.

I am biased, I have used flash from the time it was future-splash Animator to design animation for the web. The HTML5 tools are like building a car with a stone axe from an animators point of view.

I feel most of the "flash is dead" posts come from people who are 25 and younger... they always want whatever is new and tomorrow, because they are young they have only a small investment in anything here and now.

I think Google should simply licence flash for tablets, it has been a HUGE selling point to counter iOS's massive lead in applications that you can view the web with flash.

I am shocked that on an android list everyone falls in line with Jobs saying HTML5 is the future when all he was really doing is being an ass to adobe because he was still pissed at them for dropping the mac support.

So, I guess that is the long way of saying you can't add in 3D support for flash and still hope it plays well on a ARM CPU

It also means that all the people who bought a tablet for flash support will be looking hard at Microsoft surface.

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Yes.. this.. it costs money to update this stuff, and bottom line is there were way more developers wanting changes like this than was worth it to hold them back. That said I think "tablets" will see a fairly fast run up in cpu speed over the next couple years.

That said, if I were Adobe I would licence flash to Google so they could pay people to update it for android.
[Nexus 7 General] colonel187:
I have some info to mix this up a bit. The flash or no flash debate only involves the browser plug in of flash. Many apps and games both on android and iOS use flash or are built with flash.

Despite apple claiming there is no flash on their device they mean flash for their browser.

An example of a iOS flash game is myst

example for android is pretty much every game in the kongragate app.
[Nexus 7 General] iucidium:
BBC iPlayer

(Site and app) and 4od website here in the UK are flash dependant. This move just gives Apple the tactical advantage because they have native apps/HTML5 streams that can only be accessed by iTat.
[Nexus 7 General] iucidium:
Download the Twitch.TV app
[Nexus 7 General] :
Just ask around here for an APK. I heard that, although it hasn't been officially tested, Flash 11 from ICS works fine on Jelly Bean.
[Nexus 7 General] CooLoserTech:
Im in

Post this again in the Android general Discussion. youll get a lot more viewers and supporters because the Nexus 7 isnt the only device with jelly Bean ;p
[Nexus 7 General] Logan_M:
You're

I will still download it from web once they drop support next month. But flash as a whole sucks compared to HTML5, it needs to be replaced. But for the here and now, it's still used a fair bit. Though I rarely stream any YouTube video's or movies since my internet is capped at 20GB a month with 512Kbps speed.......For $50 a month.
[Nexus 7 General] qwerp_:
i side load adobe flash,

then install maxthon browser for table.

works fine for me..
[Nexus 7 General] zc1:
Unfortunately some of us have to access flash-based resources such as textbooks -- Lippincott, Williams And Wilkins (lww.com) has been thoroughly uninterested in changing. The disabling of flash in the Dolphin browser update is a pain.

I've downloaded a bunch of other browsers, but they either don't support flash or they don't run the sites properly.

It's not all about television and games.
[Nexus 7 General] R3dbeaver:
ill dig this.

i still watch many canadian channels online (watch.ctv.ca, watch.globaltv.com, etc.) and my anime fix (crunchyroll, watchop, watchbleach, etc.) and they all uses Flash...
[Nexus 7 General] Shano56:
Wheres the petition to tell adobe to ignore this petition
[Nexus 7 General] aristurtle:
Geez, guys, the whole "Android supports Flash" thing was just supposed to be a bragging point you used against iPhone users. You weren't actually supposed to use that pile of crap.

Besides, Homestar Runner hasn't been updated in years, so flash is therefore obsolete.
[Nexus 7 General] flathead031:
Adobe Flash sucked then...sucks now and will continue to suck in the future! I don't know why you people want it on your devices.
[Nexus 7 General] Thegreatheed:
Would you please tell me what else I want and don't want on my devices?

Thanks a bunch, you're a peach!
[Nexus 7 General] markboston:
Dude let flash die already. are you also running a petition to bring back booting into dos on windows 8?
[Nexus 7 General] diecast17:
I just figured it would be nice if Adobe would support it for a little while longer, because it would be good not to have to side load flash and install a different browser. If everything worked out of the box it would be great.

I also really like using Chrome as my browser, and I would love to play flash games on it.
[Nexus 7 General] Joenye:
Looool.
[Nexus 7 General] smile_ppl:
Until the day that HTML5 takes over flash completely which wont be for a few years... i'm gonna want flash on my Android device, especially on tablets. But side loading Flash isn't a long term solution because eventually it's going to break. Or at least have a way to convert Flash to HTML5 while browsing on the web which would be the best solution and that's the right way for flash to die. The site I visit most (Newgrounds.com) uses Flash for everything. That's why I want flash to be put on life support and then when everybody uses HTML5, the plug can be pulled and Flash can die peacefully.
[Nexus 7 General] diecast17:
I agree 100%
[Nexus 7 General] Shano56:
I think instead of bugging adobe to support android, you guys should be bugging the web designers of the websites you like to add support for HTML5 for "flash-free" devices
[Nexus 7 General] p5f:
It might suck but here in the UK all the BBC websites use Flash videos and so does the catchup tv website. I'd be happy to see Flash die but while website I visit still use it I'd like android to support .
[Nexus 7 General] I Am Marino:
It'd be nice if websites just offered a HTML5 version.

At least the flash heavy ones.
[Nexus 7 General] CharliesTheMan:
I would be very surprised if newgrounds.com isn't already in the process of switching to HTML5. If they aren't however then you should be reminding them that they need to get with the program.
[Nexus 7 General] smile_ppl:
It's a big site that's user submitted, its known for being the biggest flash site on the internet. They would have to convert an unknown number of fla files. But the point is let flash transition into HTML5 not cut it off yet.
[Nexus 7 General] xopher.hunter:
TROGDOR!
[Nexus 7 General] diecast17:
Please sign everyone!!!
[Nexus 7 General] GBH2:
I agree with you 100%. While I do not like flash it is still required for many financial and educational sites. It will be a while before a lot of companies get rid of flash.

I guess if people do not use their phones and tablets as a productivity device then it does not matter. However, I think that the lack of flash on Android will drive many business users to tablets and laptops that run a full desktop OS such as Win 8.
[Nexus 7 General] mikeloeven:
dude either you don't know what flash is or your a complete and hopeless idiot

flash player is required to properly view a lot of web sites and while you may associate flash player with just cheap games online lolcats movies it is actually a major component of many websites. if flash player is no longer available on android devices your talking about the inability to access a substantial chunk of websites you tube being one of them