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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DROCSID:
He has a point. But he must see that the i9000 is an old device now. iOS is

responsive and fast, it will always be. But we have an old device so it's not

comparable.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] groksteady:
You mean "i ?"?

(CM10 supports Unicode 6, who knew?)

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fishears:
LMFAO :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Netmatrix:
? happens roftlol!

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Corvillus:
The other thing to remember is with iOS we're not really comparing apples to apples (pun not intended). Apple has a tendency to remove features from iOS on older devices even if they are software features and the device technically could run them (case and point, multitasking on the iPhone 3G in the iOS 4 update, Siri on anything but the 4S in the iOS 5 update, also, if anyone remembers iOS 4 on the 3G, especially if you jail broke to turn multitasking on, smooth was not the way I'd describe it by any stretch, and the browser crashed on that thing a lot more often). While with CyanogenMod you're still getting every software only Android feature with each version, nothing is removed, for better or worse. Don't like it, you still have the option to stick with Gingerbread, which is still what the majority of Android handsets are on anyway and as such what app developers generally target. Personally, I find the minor lag a fair tradeoff for the new features, so I stay up to date. To each their own.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] edgardurao:
Faster than any other? IM currently using helly bean and these guys did a good job keeping /datadata . Itsmore speedy than cm10 for sure, but slower than cm9.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
Guess, you have to try it.

The fact is the improvements in cm10 are noticeable in each build. Even in between builds (if you build from sources).

I'm often at difficulty finding the commits responsible for that, but the results are visible.

As for the datadata "issue", I guess keeping the dalkiv cache in onenand helps minimize the differences.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] burakgon:
Helly bean is from CM10 sources and frequently freshed nightlies with datadata and extra features.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fishears:
IMHO, its like this:

If you want to help make CM10 better, use the Alpha & file bug reports.

If you can't wait for the code-base to be solid before you get to play with all the sparkly bits & you want to be able to ask for ETA's then use a ROM based on CM10 sources

Simple... ;)

PS for me, dropping /datadata was one of the best things to happen to i9000. I always hated the datafix workarounds & low storage notifications
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] bonej:
Hi,

If I install the CM10 AOKP Touchwiz 5.0 Theme (by Thomassafca), the USB storage mode doesn't work.

When I plug the USB cable and I switch to USB storage mode, the phone goes to reboot.

If I uninstall the theme, the USB storage mode works again.

Can somebody help Me?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DROCSID:
And you are the abused fanboy?

Sure it is. On the other hand Zatta made a good tool to do it automatically,

but anyway I like JB in all ways (and especially droppping /datadata).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
Wonderful, but I failed to understand how that invalidates anything I said.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DopeJam:
Hmm I have on my internal SDcard around 1gb of data that I don't know for what it is. Images, videos, backups, zip files games, apk's and documents take another 900mb but I have around 4000 files that take 1gb of space, many of them without extension and and hundreds of them are 5-10mb big. They are just numbers and letters like "58732hg456". Is this part of the firmware or could this be trash from previous stuff like gingerbread and cm9?

Im using Mi File Explorer which shows me what kind of file takes how much space
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rkaede:
sooner or later i believe CM10 can get snappy UI without datadata.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] edgardurao:
Its more standart this way, but its a pain slow. Last week my phone is ringing and only a couple of seconds appeaes the call on the screen. Its too slow...

After a day or two thing barely moves.

and sorry for not believe, but between buils i doubt that something is done in such a way to great a give boost. Problem is io.

Since app cache is renewed it gives that speed sense. This imho.

Everyone uses whats want, and of course helly is based on cm10 sources. I would prefer using cm10 stock... but phones not moving.

As for sgs guess JB is for me probably the last version of Android Os in this machjne. It had been two fantastic years, but its hard to see how a hardware giant makes a big scoop with a equipment like this. Its not cheap.. i payed 400€ for it Aug2010 so its unacepptable. S2 gets more expensive, and S3 even more. At this rate, galaxy s8 will cost 1000€...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] matesc:
i can confirm this. If you select the default theme, mounting USB storage works. No soft reboots.

edit: Can someone confirm this with an another theme please?

edit2: Just tested another Theme, USB storage works. Not CM10 related.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
Here's what I'm going to do: Swap /system and /data, and also decrease the size of /cache so you get ~400MB for /data itself. Every dalvik cache will be moved onto /system (as if /system is ever formatted, the dalvik cache can be easily regenerated and no data is lost), saving more space for /data.

This will however, require a full wipe on all devices and when that time comes, there'll be a warning on the download link.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] albertobom:
Brutal! Thanks pawitp :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Funnnny:
So we will have /data in 500Mb partition and a large /system partition or we will decrease the size and get more /sdcard space (result in format /sdcard), or we will have just /datadata at 500Mb partition and /system at /data partition now.

Personally I think 2G is too much for system partition
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] lgnd:
I'm on 8/14 build came from cm9 but usb connection doesn't work at all. Tried your method in xp Odin recognised the phone but after restart it's still only charging on usb. Also tried reflashing the latest build with wiping cache and dalvik. Any ideas? Thanks!

update: Internal sd card is mounting in recovery.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rkaede:
told ya he's goin to do something. :D. kapun krap.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
Reformatting /sdcard with all the variants is more trouble than it's worth. Not to mention loosing data in /sdcard is a big no-no. Of course, you're free to do it yourself with fdisk or parted though.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] stealthymarine:
thanks a lot, your tip saved me a bunch
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] bonej:
If I select the default theme, the situation is same. The mounting doesn't work. Only if I completely unistall the theme.

There was an older version of CM10 when it worked perfectly with this theme. But I don't remember already wich build was that. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ego42:
Thanks for the update Pawit. Any information on what's going on behind the curtains and what's in the pipeline is highly appreciated.

As much as I'm pretty happy with the current alpha I'm looking forward to further builds!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] nitramcek:
I'm on latest build and everything is pretty stable and fast. Browser isn't that fast yet but it's getting better. One thing that bothers me is when someone calls me and often only shows me phone number, and not who he is, even I have him in the phone book, Gmail sync. It takes time to show the name but by then the caller often stop calling. There must be some speed issue that take to much time to show who is calling. If that person call again, after it shows it's name then it's all good. The name shows emediatly.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Mindfield21:
So in this case we will have /system stored in the slow NAND?

Isn't this going to create some speed problems as well?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
The laggish slow part is writing, reading is fine.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Mindfield21:
Thank you for the info.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
Well, let me figure out the effect this swap have on performance first.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] edgardurao:
Will test it with pleasure. Ive thinking on put stock sammy rom for portugal one of these days to reset all this cm9/10 fuss... so its a good start for this test.

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Is brutal for reading with english accent, or portuguese Alberto ? ;)

Brutaaaal indeed
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] albertobom:
Both :P
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Galaid:
A quick tip if you want all around smooth CM10.

Turn off Location services because they call google maps tu a running state which eats a lot of RAM, CPU and Maps tend to eat almost 30-40MB of RAM.

Go to Manage app, Running Apps and Make sure only Keyboard, Google services, Settings and sometimes Media app (10MB max) are running. This ensures fastest JB experiance at the moment, imho (no lags in the browser).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yadavjpr:
pawitp has submitted patchset for it. You can follow this patch set on gerrit:

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/21300/
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
OMG amazing :victory::victory:

but isn't oneNAND too small for data :p

nevermind read it again found that system will move to MoviNAND :D

but why isn't merged yet ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DopeJam:
I rebooted my phone and know gallery is empty, tried few reboots, clear data and chache of gallery...but still nothing. Images and videos are still present just not in gallery (or Mi file brower which counts how many images/videos/apks I have). but when I browser to folders with videos and images they all are there....

All photos that I take now show up in gallery but rest is not there
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] harrym17:
No headphones for me on latest build 1408. Tried to reflash, no success.

Please help, I don't wanna wipe :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] saszseb:
Reflash the ROM!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] strickyy:
Because it was only submitted a few hours ago, and others need to approve it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yadavjpr:
Its open for review the code by other developers. If you are developer than you can also help :)

Hope the patchset will merge soon :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DopeJam:
Do I need to wipe data etc...because I reflashed the rom (without wipe) its same
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jishnu.r:
ok flashed the latest build..not getting mobile network signal..what do i do?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yadavjpr:
Please check IMEI. is it correct one?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] manolis:
Change your modem
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jishnu.r:
no its wrong.. :) what to do now ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] manolis:
copy the folder, EFS
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] costi.tattoo:
i have two days of use and it is extraordinary fast!!! no lags, no waiting, its absolutley instantly.. except 1 BIG PROBLEM

I have no sound when i play media from streaming!!! no matter what player i use, i tryed several... same problem. when i try to play a movie or listen something, includeing sopcast player, image is excelent but.. mute!!!

please, what to do?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jishnu.r:
ok done..then?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yadavjpr:
and if you don't have EFS backup than go to GB, backup EFS folder and flash CM10 and restore EFS folder.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jishnu.r:
i think i have the right one..i copied it back into my phone..now wiping and flashing CM10 again..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Galaid:
Isn't /system mounted as RW (for dalvik) security issue?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
There's no need to wipe.

Just copy the EFS folder and reboot.

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Turn up the volume.

(Not being a wise guy. It has happened before to some users)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jishnu.r:
i did that ..did not work...back on GB now..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yadavjpr:
You can put your opinion on gerrit patchset http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/21300/
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
It's not a known bug, you know? Never heard of that problem before. Sound has been working OK since I remember.

It must be something specific to your setup...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DROCSID:
The volume has nothing to do with.

Bytheway; isn't it needed to chown the files?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] msri3here:
USB storage works!!!

Tried TW5 theme and Cobalt theme...

Confirmed!! not CM10 related...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
it will stay mounted as RW , i don't know what u talking about dalvik :silly: and as i know dalvik stored in data so there is no changes in dalvik but it will a lot faster on oneNAND :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
If you mean the dalvik cache, it's already in onenand in cm10.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
i wasn't knowing :cyclops: thank u :p
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
I think that's one of the things that helped performance when abandoning /datadata
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] costi.tattoo:
cmon, it was the firs thing i've done! the volume bar shows me phone volume, not media when i try to incrase. also i cheked in volume setting media volume and it is maximum.

still... the problem persist and its anoing
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
yep , but when system freeing dalvik cache it cuzzing lag in games like temple run or dead trigger even with oc to 1.2 with 110 live oc :eek:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
Do you have sound in YouTube?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] manolis:
Pawitp

Pawitp why You decided use this way, rather than optimization of the RAM (such as zRAM) or kernel tweak, for example?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
Probably because the issue seems to be blocking io and not memory.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] costi.tattoo:
i havent installed youtube so i didnt try.:confused: the problem with sound could be becouse i dont have the gapp installed?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Kshitiz_Indian:
I am a bit curious here. Why the entire /data partition in there rather than just a /datadata like before? A 400/500MB /datadata would get rid of almost all the low storage notifications. Any specific reason for having the entire /data there rather than just the /datadata?

A smaller /data might start a flurry of questions and god knows what else when people start running out of it, just as what happened with the /datadata thingy. I know apps can be moved to SD, but I am not sure if all apps are currently offering it!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pxrave:
hey pawtip i saw you changed the /data with /system

so what we do with the other (system space now? about 1GB?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kraven001:
the /datadata was fast because was on different chip. creating it on the chip where data resides is pointless.

are you sure about this? haven't installed the latest version. can anyone else confirm?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
Don't think so. But you could be dealing with jb related bugs in the apps you're trying to use.

Audio in YouTube works fine, as well as in every other app I've used...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Paulroberts:
it hasn't happened yet.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kraven001:
Rechecked posts and got the full scoop. We'll wait and enjoy once its done (the partitions moving around)!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Kshitiz_Indian:
/datadata was actually mounted on the faster NAND, but if I am correct it carried the files which are usually in /data/data. I assumed that moving /data there would also move /data/data there, which is why I asked pawitp why not just mount a bigger /datadata rather than moving the whole /data partition there (potentially limiting space).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rajeshbabushrestha:
im really excited abt http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/21300/ mayb this is what our device needs to survive future assaults of new versions of android:fingers-crossed:.... but there is one question in my mind:confused:... cant we just partition the 2gb moviNAND into two partitions say 750Mb+1250Mb and use them for both system and data respectively.... and use the faster oneNAND for /datadata partition and swap partition.... this way we optimize I/O and Ram in our device.... correct me if im wrong coz im jus using my wild imagination... tc:p
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kraven001:
Yeah using about 1GB of space for actual /data and redirecting the rest to /system and keeping the fast chip for datadata and dalvik probably would be a reasonable trade off. We can speculate and let it to the devs to take the best approach.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Galaid:
http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/21300/1/fstab.aries

yes, dalvik cache is and will stay on oneNAND, but as /system is moving there, it needs to be mounted RW. Appropriate folder and files privileges should be enough to secure no app messes with /system, or?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Gvdn:
Pawitp Is this the same as what was used in Tegrak Kernel ? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=920711&highlight=tegrak

If so using that gave amzing speed only downside was u couldnt get too many apps
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fishears:
I have to admit I'm nervous about the decision regarding reassignment of data & system. My data is 987mb and I have no real lag... It would be nice to see an explanation of the thinking behind pawitp's decision. Just to answer the questions us users have about it and what it means in practice. Sort of a peek behind the wizards curtain.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] costi.tattoo:
now i am sure that i m dealing with a bug couse i just instaled youtube and it works fine. also all apps that plays local media. the problem is with streaming media..

last time i used Sopcast for tv plaing and same problem, no sound. when i try to adjust the volume, it ajusts phone volume not media... any ideea how can i fix that?

i am upset becose everythinh work absolutly perfect and this pronlem with sound brake me all my dreams about a perfect rom

thx
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] edgardurao:
You can have no lag, but others are with lagged phones.

As some time ago can be proved by the speed tests that pawitp asked, the speeds from cards can be quite different.

Seems chips are different or something.

As for example, for me, CM10 is totally unsable after sometime. Regarding Helly Bean, which is based in CM10 sources, and uses /datadata phone is completely awesome.

But this is just mho. The should know better what technical motivated to this change.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mbarreto:
Alpha?

Everything works so good, this looks more like an RC than an Alpha. Just saying! :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
In my experience, performance gets better as uptime goes up.

Perhaps there's something else hitting you...

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It adjusts the phone volume because the app is actually not outputting any sound.

Have you checked if the apps you are trying to use don't have any issues with JB in general?

Besides that, perhaps you can do a logcat and post a bug report (check OP)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Fr4:
Is still unofficial?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
Seems similar to the onenand mode, yes, except for the fact cm usually uses yaffs2 over onenand.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
i remember on gb days the lag fix was using ext4 which give slightly io boost over rfs ( but maybe yaffs2 better idk :o )
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] turquoise.ht:
not that smooth, apps open considerably slow and ram is never enough for ics. might it change on JB? hope so. the only thing i admire about iOS is the user interface. android is better that it in all the rest of features.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
ya android have very very bad ram management on 512mb device or lesser that the biggest downside of android its ram hogger :rolleyes: + every update become more ram hogger than before

on gb free free ram with stock kernel with 340mb ram about 150mb

with ics + 391mb devil kernel free ram about 190 -150

on JB + 390mb devil kernel free ram abou 130- 100 :( (maybe there is ram leaking on JB idk )

and used ram never ever restore until reboot :eek::eek:

but Pawit is doing amazing job to keep us to date with his amazing work
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] stealthymarine:
text overlay when pin is activated in screen lock
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
happened on s1 , s2 , gnex :o just wait for cm team to fix it :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
Well, as long as the nexus S manages to run jb fine with the same amount of memory...

You can expect things to improve.

When Google drops support for the S in a future release, then you can start to get worried (or not - it's just a phone :) )
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
Only root can write to /system and if you have root, you can remount /system anyway.

Unless you know what you're doing, do not comment on gerrit.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] groksteady:
[Edit: deleted remark about supercurio/Voodoo Sound; irrelevant to SGS.]

I got no sound problems, but I don't stream anything. Also think you could check with the app devs to make sure it's JB-ready. I've had to uninstall some apps rendered useless by the update.

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Ogoshi_:
Sopcast latest version 0.8.8 has a issue with JB and audio, if you do a quick search you'll find other folk with the same problem

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ssvijay:
Supercurio has tweeted abt Galaxy S2's Louder app .
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] groksteady:
Whoops, sorry for the clutter. Thanks for catching that.

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dono89:
i've a problem.....yesterday everything work goog.

today i turn on the telephone and on gallery there isn't any image.

i try to do wipe dalvik and wipe cache but, nothing change.

I already try to go on info of gallery (stop the application, delete cache delete data) but nothing change and the picture can't see yet

if need.....there is in the correct folder --> dcim/camera/ any image

and if i try to do a photo, the telephone show on gallery and save it, in dcim/camera/ (where is the other images...)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Julmasara:
Is there a logical explanation why the ROM itself is fast and responsive, but my apps seem laggy?

Any advice you can give me on this?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] groksteady:
Did you update ROM Manager, and now have .nomedia file in the root of you sdcard? If so, delete it.

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] H-Body:
I think the reading actions of the system itself are fast, but the writing actions of the /data partition where your apps were stored are slow. Thats the reason why pawitp now swap them :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
Delete data of the media storage app.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] thestudent00:
Delete cache and data of media storage. Reboot and give the phone 10-15 min to rebuild cache and scan for media. Than u should have your images back in gallery.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Abyv:
CM10 slimmer Zip..by ur signature..wat is this stuff? If i may ask?

Thanks