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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] boolean:
No,... I mean "S voice", sure :good:

Yesterday I tested the "Elitemovil RC12.2" rom for SGS I9000 (very unstable in my opinion,...) and it comes with the "S voice" assistant installed.

Check this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1776738

I think that "S voice" was somthing common in Jelly Bean, not only in SGS3... :o:o:o:o
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DROCSID:
Yes, but it's my max.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] abellimz:
Sorry bro, i thought pawitp's posts benefited me greatly so i thought of recommending u to them. His posts answers your question.

Apparently u already read them so...

Btw burakgon what's your chip? M8g4dd too?

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cas0404:
Hi pawitp,

why not put dalvik-cache and cache on OneNAND too to make it faster???

thx
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Nezys:
After 5h of test,I can say new partition works very very well.

I'm with a iNand device and it's very fast,no laggy and smooth.

Now it's better than previous nightlies IMHO.

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] wolfpeterson:
please delete
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
+1
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] gaz41:
Slow one...

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 99x:
Slow, as previous posts have said, if it starts with M it's slow :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] wolfpeterson:
Thanks i just flew over them...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
Yeah the slow one, that's it.

I'd like to ask, are there any notable differences between the Slow one and the Not-slow one ? Apart of the name, of course :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Mindfield21:
Apart from the name, there are also differences in speed...:p
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
My dalvik-cache is about 150MB. Taking that much space in oneNAND might be problematic.

There's a cache partition in oneNAND, but is currently only 18MB.

AFAIK, dalvik-cache is mainly used for reading (well, very occasional writing), so it shouldn't be very affected by being in moviNAND.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
Of course, but NOTABLE differences ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Mindfield21:
Using the old CM10 partition layout (I mean the one before 17/8) the performance difference was noticeable.

Using the last two CM10 partition layouts the difference has been decreased significantly.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Funnnny:
It's just like you're in a highway with good road and a highway with bad road.

They have the same size (same speed), but moving your car in the latter case will be slower (more latency).

The slower NAND makes the write process by the ROM's system slow, and the processor have to wait for it, the result is lag.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] lakoeze:
i got the slow NAND (M8G4DD) and the experimental rom is running at least as smooth and fast as the recent builds.

Flashed cm-10-20120925-EXPERIMENTAL-galaxysmtd-LVMTEST-WIPE.zip this morning and installed about 40 apps.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] burakgon:
I will prepare LVM instructions to throw system to external sd etc.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pxrave:
But you have the decision after that (experimental=only for testing) to setup future proof 500MB coz i think 4.1.x will be the last cm for our device coz the ram limitation, i have an s2 too and cm10 on the i9100 is so fast.

cm10 is a wonder for our device but i think we should do the best for the final rom for our device?

i think you should do this 500 MB thing coz the users have to wipe and this was only a test to see if it works good or not. btw in my mind about 80 % of all user would wipe for the 500MB coz is better for the future.

think about some cm app's apollo or more thing's need space at /system
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
u mean old vsync ;)

but idk about new partition i didn't test it yet :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
In theory yes you are right, but I've asked practically if there are notable differences ( like the fast one open an app in 0,005 sec but the slower one will open in 10 secs ), things like that .
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
We have 50MB free in /system right now which is plenty for our purposes. The overall ROM size will also be limited by the /system size of other devices anyway.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Nezys:
I think it's difficult understand if this partition layout is good or not for MoviNAND device owners 'cause I'm reading a lot of posts where the system is smooth and where the system is laggy etc..:confused:

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mbarreto:
Next nightly

There are so many changes in the next nightly, I'm pretty sure pawitp's day must have 25 hours :silly: Just sayin'
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
The slow one can take several seconds to write a file, freezing the device with the cpu at 100% io wait.

It's not a question of pure speed. The datasheet write speed diference between moviNAND and iNAND is not great.

It's just that under certain conditions, the write speed of the slow nand is not only slow - it's a disaster. You can call it a bug in the chip if you want,

If you think of what could have made Samsung replace its own chip (moviNAND) with a competitor chip (iNAND by SanDisk) on its own device, when it had already sold millions of them...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Yayaa:
can i use fm radio with this rom?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
That's it, I'm convinced now and I'll throw my phone out on window ;)

Joking of course, that's it what can we do?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mbarreto:
With the stock kernel, no. With Semaphore's kernel yes, but you have to install a 3rd party radio app
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kraven001:
I think the EXPERIMENTAL rom exercise has proven its point. It's more than clear that for a majority of users the changes in partition layout are offering a satisfactory performance.

There are some that want the best. I will never compare this phone with a sgs2 for example. It will never be as fast.

As our main dev pawitp said there is always a compromise to make. My best guess is that this change in layout will grow the user base, given that maybe many stayed "away" since they had a ton of apps to install.

My experience so far with this solution presented in the EXPERIMENTAL is on par with what I got accustomed to in CM9 and CM10 (pre experimental). It's not flying like SGS2, SGS3 or whatever but we can't compare - it's usable, it's snappy and we have JB. This phone had "micro lags" since day one and no partition change ever affected that (in my experience that's the sad reality). On CM roms this feels 10 times faster than sammy GB roms so I can't complain.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Mindfield21:
And that's why our devs pushed /system and /data in this slow chip, knowing that this two directories are mostly used for reading, and created a /datadata partition with the files that are frequently used for writing purposes in the fast chip of our phone so as to eliminate the writing lags even for us who are using the slow chip.

You see andoceo, even us with the slow chip, have a ~450 MB fast chip (it's called OneNand)

(pmos69 I know you are aware of these, I am just expanding your answer in order to explain andoceo how it goes)

No I mean the partition layout we had before pawitp swapped /system with /data.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] erpurohit:
Which kernel we can use with the latest experimental release (lvmtest)?

Sorry if this is already asked...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mbarreto:
So far only the CM10 stock
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
Checking Betterbatterystats I saw that Alarm Manager is always on although I don't have any active alarm
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
stock only

i think :cyclops:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] erpurohit:
Any issues so far....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] FREEKR:
Is it possible to solder a faster nand chip to the motherbord?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
One: It's a little boring because of the lack of serious bugs.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mbarreto:
Not really, but I've only tested for a few hours. Then again, I don't see much of an improvement in speed.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] erpurohit:
Ha ha ha... I like it...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mermigas:
+1 but I am waiting for the winter since under heavy wifi usage the phone is getting slightly hot.:confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] TheeWolf:
I looked around in the changelog but couldn't find an answer.

Does anybody know in which nightly the new partition layout began?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yaatzek:
Clean instal, restored apps with tibu, and it feels very good :D Sometimes it feels faster than previous layout, but it's probably a placebo, a very good one. I'm on the faster chip. It is not worse, for sure, so +1 for the new layout.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cturcu2004:
Hi.

How can I find out what nand chip I have on my Galaxy S? I don't know the manufacturing date.

I can't find it using Google.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Forssound:
yes but only with the paid app FM spirit
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fREAST:
Check in /sys/devices/platform/s3c-sdhci.0/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name

SEM08G is iNAND (the fast one).

M8G4DD is moviNAND (the slow one).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jdogzilla:
Mine says MAG8DD. Is that the same as M8G4DD?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dark_knight35:
Everything with M is slow movienand.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cturcu2004:
Mine is SEM16G. I'll try cm10 as soon as possible.

Thanks for your help.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pxrave:
same as nexus s
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] gitch101:
When do we know if the /datadata partion will be official?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
no one know :laugh:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fREAST:
Then i guess the memory capacity is in the name;

SEM8G would be 8GB and SEM16G 16GB.

EDIT:

Here is a comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40mlXdQZX-o

Though it's another device it still gives a bit of an impression on the speed differences.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mbarreto:
Next nightly

Does anyone know if the next nightly, the one with the gazilion changes, will be based on the new layout? Anyone? Pawitp? :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] gitch101:
Nobody knows;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] a g bell:
Won't pawitp know:confused::eek:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] gitch101:
Nope he is thinking about it
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
anyone know how nexus s partition is ? is the system on onenand and data on movinand ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
I'm wondering where are those guys who were posting craps when I've asked about slow/fast chip since there are many members who are interested how to find out what type of chip they have on their device.

That's the main reason why a forum exists.

Anyway...

I've installed the experimental version, so far so great.

Excellent job pawitp
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 99x:
I think there is just one chip, all fast - something like 512MB /system, 1GB /data

Got this from some nexus S PDF:

Dev Size Name

/dev/mtd/mtd0: 2MB bootloade

/dev/mtd/mtd1: 1MB misc

/dev/mtd/mtd2: 8MB boot

/dev/mtd/mtd3: 8MB recovery

/dev/mtd/mtd4: 469.5MB cache

/dev/mtd/mtd5: 13MB radio

/dev/mtd/mtd6: 6MB efs

/dev/block/mmcblk0p1: 512MB system

/dev/block/mmcblk0p2: 1024MB userdata

/dev/block/mmcblk0p3: 13651MB sdcard
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Alpha_B:
Hello!

I´ve got the i9000 with the iNand chip and the experimental rom is by far, the best.

Thank You Pawitp!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] TheeWolf:
Hi,

I don't understand - is the new partition layout already implemented, or not? If it is, which nightly was it implemented from?

Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 99x:
Today's, experimental
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Eddicts:
Can anyone here edit the systemui?i want the status notification look transparent.Any help please?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yaatzek:
I want a new phone. Anyone?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] AndroidBR:
Who doesn't...? Anything – but – an iPhone! ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Pino112:
How can I open that file? Which app do i have to download?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
just type in termenl cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c-sdhci.0/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name

or install es file explorer or solid explorer the navigate to /sys/devices/platform/s3c-sdhci.0/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name the open the file as text
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] AndroidBR:
Crap...

MAG8DD

FML! :banghead:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] TheeWolf:
Amen to that!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] snufy99:
I have MAG8DE

Very very veryyyyy minor lags
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MoshuXXL:
I am one of the lucky ones that have iNand (SanDisk). For us which is the best ROM? I'm currently on fishears original layout version.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jvidia:
SEM08G here too ;)

Sorry to ask but what is that we gain with this? :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
thats will always happend due the old hardware ( i have inand and i have very very littile minor lags some times on the normal partition [ system on movenand and data on onenand] )

i didn't test the new one i'm too lazy LOL :laugh:

---------- Post added at 12:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:10 AM ----------

faster memory (movinand)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jvidia:
Nice ;)

This experimental version of cm10 has something to do with this mem versions??
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MoshuXXL:
Speed what else. The race is for speed and stability.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
You gain nothing more than a slightly faster phone. Thus not faster than S3 haha :D

After an intensive test of the Experimental version I have to say that is slower than the previous Nightly. With multiple tabs opened, various apps opened I've noticed that the phone started to respond slowly
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] a g bell:
How do l find out what nand l have?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mbarreto:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32008008&postcount=7671
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jacobuscuracao:
eternal life

maybe

or maybe not
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Rat2000:
I am using the experimental mod since this morning and i must say the phone is faster, or i should say I don't have those small lags as i used to, the phone feels much more sensitive.

I am on a slower chip(M8G4DD).

Phone battery seems exactly the same.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] TigerCourage:
I tested all day and everything seems fast and stable. The only thing that bugs me is that the phone gets HOT especially after a restart and playing a PSX Game. Used to happen with Semaphore only when I was overclocking to 1.2GHz.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] chiwou:
Slow nand

So after a day of testing, there is no difference, everything starts exactly the same etc. Only the camera is a little slower, even had a soft reboot, but I don't think this has anything to do with the new layout.

BUT I was a semaphore user before now, and everything is a little smoother with semaphore. I don't say the new experimental build is slow, but I'm a semaphore fan ;).

And the battery life with this build is amazing, nice side effects.

So what do I want to say:

This new layout makes it easier to install apps, and for me it didn't make any difference.

With the old layout (huge system partition) I just used titanium backup and pushed the apps in the system partition, little more work, but served me too.

But since not everyone knows how to do that. I would recommend to keep the new partition layout.

Either way, if it wouldn't be for the developer or the cyanogenmod team, we wouldn't have jelly bean or ICS on our Samsung phones

So thanks and take care

- Chris
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Trainer_H:
in this file, i only found 00000 ???? why
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] the-weatherman:
Because your phone was shipped without any internal memory! Everything runs in RAM !
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] trut:
U have version with hard disk :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Trainer_H:
i use the helly bean rom. Why are you kidding me?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] TigerCourage:
Here's a proof of the temperature. It's from Juwe's RAM Manager widget. Am I the only one who has this problem?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
this is battery temp it has nothing to do with cpu temp ;)

and i don't think there is any way to watch cpu temp on galaxy s1
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] SamHaLeKe:
Off topic, but can't resist :p

This very handy app, CM10 Downloader is just perfect for us :highfive:

I use it for some time now and it recently got updated again.

Now you can use torrents for you latest nightly, next to the regular zip files :good:

It's the UNOFFICIAL CyanogenMod 10 Nightlies Downloader.

Features

:

-Recognizes your device and your build and advises you when there is a recent version

-Changelog of new build

-Changelog of the next build

-Scheduling daily "check & download" of new build

-Force Download on Wifi in the settings

-Link for downloading gapps in the settings

-Download as Zip or as Torent

- ...

Go and grab that peace of code as it will save you some time and it's very nice to have on the road :cool:

It's getting better and better, a very nice companion to the CM10 nightly's ;)

-Sam-
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] tetronic:
Hello, what is LVM test in new nightly, and will the versions after it require wipe too?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
new partitions same as helly bean :p

and if the commit didn't get merged u will have to wipe again if its merged u r ok
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] monjovega:
What is the difference with the current CM10 partition?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jacobuscuracao:
bigger data (1.4 Gb instead of 422Mb) and perhaps some performance difference depending on your circumstances (chip and whatever)

God only knows. And Pawit. And Gerrit- which, by the way, is my father's first name!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DanielSanchez:
I may be a little late , but i just discovered the most amazing thing.

If you tap, tap, tap the cyanogenMod version in about phone, it brings the same effect as you would tap android version... the one with jelly beans and you could flick them around. This one is with android heads.

Really, really cool.

I so ****ing excited ^^…
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dherre65:
Care to share wallpaper and clock widget?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] SamHaLeKe:
o_0

t*ts 'n a*s is what you need daniel-san :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DanielSanchez:
Already got a pair.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] SamHaLeKe:
o_0

Would rather spend my money to a pair of spare batteries :0

just joking ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Aqua1ung:
Might be time for me to switch to CM10 (I'm currently on CM9), though the fact that Gapps have to be installed everytime is seriously holding me back. So how does this work? Do you have to re-configure the Gapps environment everytime you update to a new nightly? Or does it find the previous settings on the phone? Do you also have to re-install and reconfigure all your other non-Gapps applications with each nightly update? Can anyone clarify these aspects?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] alb3rtt:
Gapps are only flashed once and that's it. Non-gapps that are on /system/apps (eg. Apps that you added on /system/apps like Google music) have to be flashed each nightly. You don't have to reconfigure every app after flashing a new nightly. Its the same as cm9. The flashing thing is the same. Stuff that is on /data are kept the way they were
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
- it works at it should

- no

- yes

- no

- clarified
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dongfangri:
LVM has just been merged, so we will have the new partition today.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] olivercervera:
A new partition layout? I missed something. Are there details? Thanks!

Edit: bigger data 1,4gb instead of 400 mb

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Silentbob999:
Please read any of the last 20 pages, you will found answer on any questions you may have

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] monjovega:
Will this be used for upcoming builds on CM10, like the next 20120926?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
It's been merged, so yes, it will be used in all future builds.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
yes

and i think yes cuz build bot didn't start yet :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] monjovega:
So again no choice but to do full wipe again?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] gabbarsingh2000:
Tested new partition layout for one day. Performance is at par with 2409. I am on slow chip.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] loonieryan:
Does CM10 for Galaxy S include Butter?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
its include chocolate :laugh:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Wolfteam20:
Nop , go and buy it

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] warhead1978:
The die is cast...

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/23779/
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kfheaven:
New built will bring back datadata....:thumbup:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
Full wipe again ???

Hehe but I have backup :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] KSLevel11:
Yes, full wipe.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kbal:
Nobody is talking about the new calculator features (graphing and such)? Even though I have a degree in mechanical engineering, I have no clue how to draw a graph in this :silly:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Pino112:
Thnx!

I have M8G4DD :(. Bought the phone in sept 2010.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] bhu1:
Yeah...it is too difficult to use. I dont understand it either. The clock app had instructions...but this is just rocket science stuff.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fREAST:
The new nightly (0926) is being built atm! :good:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] edgardurao:
New version 25 seems quite fast.

Lets hope it stays that way as day passes.

Slow chip here (07/2010).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kbal:
I did it, it's so simple I feel quite dumb now :eek:

Slide right and type: Y=X

There you go, you have a graph drawn :highfive:

I usually use Wolfram Alpha, but it needs internet to work.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yaatzek:
Where do you check this?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] gazou_hb:
Your last nightly (25/09) with new nand partition is very fast. Thanks for your good job.

It's very best that the standard partition. I vote that you apply this methode for all new nightly.

I have one remark for this ROM. With my car's BT, the audio is no good that the samsung's standard ROM. do you have look this little problem?

Thanks again.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] bobbenoster:
You're going to have to take your car to Pawitp so he can test... oh and you might have to leave it with him for a few days...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MasterJam882:
Buildbot nearly done - all builds failed so far - buhuuu. Can't wait for all these great new changes that would have come

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kbal:
Open DSPManager->BLUETOOTH and play with settings.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] L0kiii:
sry couldnt resist
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MasterJam882:
nice^^ no problem m8.

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] _Morfic_:
Not sure if you're trolling or not... If you're not then click http://jenkins.cyanogenmod.com/

Cheers