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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] boolean:
I used for a few days Elitemovil RC12.1 ROM on my SGS and it had installed the "S voice" assistant.

Is possible to install it on a I9000?

No I mean "S voice", the Samsung voice assistant...

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Why? :eek: :eek:

Comment misplaced... :rolleyes:, I doubt who is the troll here :confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] djlukas1983:
I'm on fast iNAND and now with the new partition layout, my device seems to be faster then ever. I have 85 apps and after few hours of testing I haven't got a single lag, whitch was happening on previous layouts.

Hope to see this lvm partition layout thing on the next nightly.

Great work guys.

Wysyłane z mojego GT-I9000 za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] albertobom:
Also works great with slow nand.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Zatta:
Sort of, but not really. This new /datadata has over 400 mb space, the old one was 170 mb. So the space you used to use for all user apps including /data/app is now used solely for the apps data (previously what was in /data/data).

So, you can fill up /datadata, but not so fast as it is really really big.

Taptalked u see .. əəs n pəʞlɐʇdɐʇ
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] SamHaLeKe:
1. before CM10 install, copy your preferred file manager from /data/app to the root of internal SD and rename it to fm.apk

2. after you installed CM10 go to settings/security and check install from unknown sources

3. after that, open browser and type file:///sdcard/fm.apk in the address bar

there you go, you'll have your file manager after CM install without internet connection and without using the market app ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ego42:
I get that but it seems like a CM issue rather than app issue. If I remember correctly it started on a nightly update some time around September 13/14th and there has not been an update to Sound Search in like ages. But I understand it's hard to trace the problem given the closed nature of Sound Search and if it's only this single app that misbehaves than I guess it's no big deal really.

Great work on CM10 anyway, thanks a lot!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] roshan2989:
can you guys tell me what is " cm-10-20120925-EXPERIMENTAL-galaxysmtd-LVMTEST-WIPE.zip in cyanogen mod site under nightly....can you tell what is this...?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
It's something like this:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] SamHaLeKe:
Some people are so...

One have to be really patient here :/

OMG

if you just read a bit back, you can see that it's 1. an experimental build and 2. to test a different partition layout. Just read next time will ya please.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ChrisHoppyBot:
Thank you!!!

So now I am on the CWM-based Recovery v6.0.1.4.

How do I now start up the OS as normal??
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Zatta:
Now you flash the zipfile you downloaded from get.cm.

You are lucky so many patient people are online :)

And once you have done that, also flash the gapps file, otherwise there is no market. And after that, boot.

And make an extra backup of your /efs folder (partition) to a computer.

Taptalked u see .. əəs n pəʞlɐʇdɐʇ
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
Start here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31982825#post31982825
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 99x:
So effectively, this new layout is pretty similar to the previous layout + App Mover suite? (i.e. user apks on movinand?)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
Not really.

There are separate volumes for /system and /data on moviNAND, and almost all avalilable oneNAND is used for /datadata.

It's similar to DerTeufel1980's layout.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DROCSID:
See it now, thanks for clearification. Will flash in a moment too to try it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] talktoanil:
so is this data/ datadata (whatever is causing lag) is only for SGS or other CM10 ROMs too ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] SAINI99:
Data/data fixed on cm10 v4 rom

Data/data fixed on cm10 v4 rom
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Abyv:
Wasn't sure thanks for clearing it.

Cheers
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] armando_rod:
Is not lag is space problem! /system doesnt have enough space for JB aparently so the CM devs (pawitp) is using that faster chip so all data is on internal SD, if the ROM is not using that faster chip could lead on lag sometimes or the placebo effect of lag.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
File a report at the sgscm10 bug tracker and I'll look at it later. (There are much more urgent things right now ;))
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] SAINI99:
please post latest build 19july cm10 from be18 already posted with fix data/data
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
Fast NAND: shared between /system, /cache and /datadata

Slower NAND: shared between /data and /sdcard

Very long time ago, the original CM maintainers of this device (codeworkx, atinm, et al.) found that /data is quite slow and creates lag. To mitigate it, they've created /datadata on a faster NAND chip to store /data/data and reduce the lag. /datadata did quite a very good job at it too, but was very slow. Also, it's non-standard and creates confusing "low storage" notifications for users, while the users thinks they have 1GB+ left.

When ICS came, /system was getting filled up, but we didn't want to kill /datadata, so we nearly killed /cache (which wasn't getting any use) to make space for /sysem.

Then Jellybean came, /system was still too small so we had to kill /datadata, hoping for another way to fix the lags. (IMO, putting parts of /system on /data is not a good solution as everything will go haywire once the user wipes data.)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DROCSID:
With haywire you mean the system becomes unusable when a user factory resets it's phone or!?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
Depends on what is moved. Apps may disappear, etc.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
The other build is not a CM10 build, but rather another ROM based on CM10. I've already sent a message to the OP asking them to rename it. The fix they use is hackish and I don't like it very much because it will cause problem if the user decides to wipe /data (if I read it correctly).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kimtaei:
thanks for the help but i'm still not clear flashing GB. can i use my existing CWM to flash to GB. pls guide which GB version that can flash using my CWM because there are many on this forum. appreciate your help...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Abyv:
Pawitp could you plz tel me if I am flashing to next builds ...which back up should i be doing? ICS or the cm-jb one I'm running?

Thank you
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] raksan:
This confused me as well, I build flashing many build believe they are cm10... btw, now I'm (my bro's phone) running your build. However, I lost the "Power control" widget after I change the Launcher2.apk from other build. Even I put the original back... flashing the rom again I won't get it. All I can do to bring it back is to wipe the data and flash the phone again. Do you aware of this problem? Btw, thanks a lots for your efford since ICS days!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kathees:
Hi,

I just need some indepth details. Can you let me know how much storage allocated for fast nand and slower nand? Also are they getting from the 16GB storage?

If you can please explain the types of storage available in Galaxy S, and what are things stored there as of CM9. I would love to understand it and take a look at the code.

Also where is the sourcecode for cm9 for Galaxy S? I checked github and it got too many repositories. I'm confused :rolleyes:

Thanks in advance
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
Fast NAND: OneNAND, SLC, 512MB

Slower NAND: MoviNAND, MLC, 8/16GB

Android is large and the source is spread over many repositories. See http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Building_from_source on how to download all of them.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kathees:
Hi,

Thanks for the fast response. I'll refer the thread you have mentioned for the source code.

Also as for the memory details I see in terminal that, (With CM9)

250 MB for system

170 MB for datadata allocated. Can I know where is the rest of the memory? I'm asking to know what else is in The FastNAND.

Another quick question,

I'm flashing the CM10 Alpaha now. I see the bootscreen of CM9. Is that correct? Are you suing the same bootscreen?

Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
Read the original post, I've already detailed what partition is on what. The bootscreen is used temporarily and will be changed once the CM10 bootscreen is made.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kathees:
Ohh Sorry! I forgot the cache part. Thanks now I'm officially on JellyBean :good:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] SAINI99:
waiting for cm10 July 19 with fixed datadata
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] riggnix:
what about going about /datadata the other way around?

like

fast NAND: /system and /datadata

slow nand: /data, /sdcard and something like /systemdata

you could put things, that are not that critical for performance on /systemdata, to make space for /datadata on the fast NAND.

But I agree it would be very non-standard-android, just a suggestion ;-)

keep the good work up! :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] lgnd:
I have the slow chip and with the new layout my phone acts like before smooth and responsive. I hope the new layout will be merged into cm this seems to be the ultimate solution for both slow/fast chip phones and there is plenty of space for apps. Great work thank you!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] TigerCourage:
Phone runs great with the new layout, and I have never seen the app drawer so smooth! (slow chip owner)

The gallery also seems to start faster!

EDIT:

Is it me or the phone gets a little hotter than before?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ChrisHoppyBot:
I want to say a big thank you everyone that's helped.

It loads up perfect now but I totally forgot to put the Gapps zip on the phone. How do I go back to install that?

I am so sorry for all the questions but I couldn't have done it without you guys!!! :good::laugh::good::laugh:

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I HAVE DONE IT!!! A MASSIVE THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT WENT OUT OF THERE WAY TO HELP!!!

:victory:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Mindfield21:
After using the experimental build for about an hour I can't seem to find any differences in it's performance comparing to the 20/9 nightly I was using. But since pawitp said that this change won't be easily reverted once it gets approved, I propose to give it some testing time (1-2 days).

So just to summarize.

With this layout we push /data to the slow nand (same thing we did back in the "fast" CM9 days), we push /system to the slow nand as well (same thing we did with the previous "fast" layout of CM10) and we create a 422 MB /datadata so as to avoid the frequent appearance of the low disk space message. As long as our device doesn't write stuff to /data and /system often, I thing this layout is going to succeed.

Not even close to what I am getting and I must report that I have the slow Nand.

-I am currently updating my apps from google play (so there is data downloading and app installing) and I can use my phone with the same small amount of lag it always had while downloading. No more, no less. No overheating as well (completely cool)

-App drawer loads with the speed it always did

-No lags on trebuchet or settings

-Launched a couple of games, they all opened as usual.Quit was normal as well. No black screens or launcer redrawing.

-Installed some .apk files from my sd (sygic, root explorer, tapatalk) they were installed instantly.

-Youtube launch took about 1 second...

Seriously you should repeat the flashing procedure.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
Hey don't name me ignorant but what the heck is with that 'slow chip' ? Tried to search the forum but haven't found a dime. Can someone pm or write here for other 'slow chip' term strangers ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] chrome6boy:
You mean SIRI right? Because S voice is only for the SGS3.

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kraven001:
I would tend to disagree with everyone that says the new partition layout is full of lags and bla bla.

How did you guys use CM9 then? It is basically 90% the same thing as we had on CM9 but with some "bonus" space in /datadata and some extra bonus in /system.

I have restored everything, played around with the phone, charged and discharged it for a few hours, restarted it. Seems as stable as previous CM10 builds and as fast as those builds were. If it "feels" slower to some it certainly doesn't mean it is; it could be 1000 reasons.

I don't think it's even worth throwing in comments keep the old layout, it's clear to everybody that the new one is what we need and what was being discussed since the first changes to layouts were introduced. This is the best of two worlds.

I am completely happy with the layout and I would not see why the other 95% of the user base wouldn't (hell I was comfortable with the small /data but it's just me).

A big thanks to the devs. My hope is this will be mainstream at some point.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 99x:
S voice can be installed with this however you might get the 'not enough RAM' error
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Anistruk:
I'm really happy with the 0920 rom, but this experimental build layout it's gonna really be deployed in the new nightlys? That's my doubt for flashing or not....

Regards
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] chrome6boy:
The developers are asking us to flash this and report back with our experiences before deciding if this will be merged into the nightlies. So if you want to help, flash this and report back with your experiences. Most of us so far have had a good experience.

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Ik4rus:
great with this new version the media scanner problem is vanishing!

the speed seems the same. I've iNand chip.

I vote for the new version.:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] abellimz:
search for posts by pawitp on this thread and go to the first few posts. Start reading from there.

Hey guys, i have a slow chip (maybe the slowest of all)

I don't have the time now to test the new layout so i really hope more people with slow nands can give more feedback. I'm particularly worried about the posts that say its as laggy as helly bean. Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] flip360:
Agreed on the abovementioned points also, i have it installed for about 4-5 hours now, i have the M chip and there is no difference in terms of speed and response from the nightly before, maybe even better :)

THANKS pawitp for your work,

Cheers
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
Thanks for nothing dude, you should have imagined already that I searched .... I just wanted a simple response about what's a slow chip and how can I see if mine is as well ....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
It was originally DerTeufel1980's idea and jt1134's implementation of it. I'm just cleaning things up and making sure nothing breaks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] SamHaLeKe:
You want, you want, you want, YOU want...

do some effort please, if you search you'll find ;)

and don't tell us you did, if you did, you wouldn't ask that question ;)

pfff :silly:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] xpc21:
Im still having battery issues, had wipe battery stats, calibrate it and still bad performance:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 99x:
Slow NAND, using new version, no discernible difference in performance, responsiveness and general 'feel' of rom - compared to 2012-09-24 nightly.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
I don't see any issues, that's a normal consumption, you've used your phone pretty much, with the screen on and this eats a lot battery juice.

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I haven't asked what is cm or odin or other silly question. Anyway I'll simply ignore people like you who think they are the smartest people in the world and somebody who ask a question should be ignored.

Remember that my question was not addressed to ignorant persons like you!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] grifovunque:
the performance with last experimental buila are so good like in previously nightly for me....

no problem at all....

if i compare the battery drain from GB to JB , the winner is GB, with the some apps ans usage with GB i start at 7.30 and i recharge about at 23/24 ... with JB i'm lucky if i arrive at 20 :(

this is the only think that is not good for me...

performance in JB is too much better than GB

ps: i have only viber,gmail,greader sync and 3g always on :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] xpc21:
I know guys, this is my fifth Galaxy S, i know a lot about. I getting this only using GSM Network to test and of course with bluetooth off, wifi off, gps off, local services off.....anyone here getting 1 day of battery?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 99x:
Install betterbatterystats, and check what the partial wake locks shows.

Edit: xda free version
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
"slow chip" = moviNAND (Samsung)

not "slow chip" = iNAND (SanDisk)

cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c-sdhci.0/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name

If it reads SEM08G you have iNAND.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] bobbenoster:
On that setup I get 2.5 days... would probably get more if I leave the sudoku game alone...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] abamann:
I noticed that we have to mount data and system from cwm to install the zip files.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] burakgon:
Wiped again, installed a few apps to test from market, fixed all permissions first on recovery, than from rom manager.

I have:

-Stock kernel

-moviNand

All compared to 09-24 nightly vs 25 experimental

-Even multitasking animations are micro lagging.

-When I swipe xda app too fast. It lags 2 times while scrolling.

-When I listen music, browser become very laggy.

- Google play music loads album artwork slower and lags while this process.

-Opera mobile opens sites slower and become laggier on huge sites.

-Google+ with no another background user apps, lags too much and loading is very slow. It overheats phone.

-While downloading a file lag increasing.

-Can't see difference on dbdata (like contacts)

-Google talk sometimes sends messages delayed.

-Launcher redraws is a pain.

-UI is more laggy, even system app load times increased.

I can increase list.

I don't have any of these problems on 24-09 nightly.

Where I know the test points:

Because I used helly bean for months which has similiar fs layout.

And used cm10 new partition layout for months too.

I know all differences and testing them from same point. Result is this.

422mb data layout is a hero for my phone. It's most fast and and you know it's really fastest choice for us pawitp.

But people can't test them. Please remind this

-People said no accelerometer lag and you decreased delay to 1/4 now better than stock.

-Some people reported ioctl is as good as vsync while every gpu process lagging.

-Some people thinks 2gb system partition is a bug and they don't know this making their phone faster.

I don't know how people testing something but 422mb layout is best for every moviNand user.

Even if you want you can move your apps to movinand which is sdcard.

I did it to games and I guess I can have 200+ apps easily.

You know better so I will follow your way.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Mindfield21:
I think the best way to judge your battery behaviour is through display time. Using mostly 2G networks and 3G only while browsing and having wifi always on I can achieve about 3+ hours of display time during the day. Using stock GB the same way, I always had like 4 hours of display time.

From your screenshots I see that your display time is a little low but other than that it all looks normal. Maybe some app was running in the backround not leaving the device to go to deep sleep mode. Use CPU spy to see how much time your phone spend on each frequency.

Hint: While the device is in deep sleep and you try to wake it, it should get some miliseconds to respond. If your screen turns on instanlty then something prevends your cpu from sleeping.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ygorigor:
one against all
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
I guess is inand.

Thanks for helping me out
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fREAST:
M8G4DD is the slow moviNAND.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MasterJam882:
Hmmm....2 different opinnions here. In ur picture it states iNAND but the number M8G4DD is the number for slow mNAND chip as I remember!? Can someone enlighten us here please.

greetz
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pxrave:
if this new layout will become standart cm10 i would advise to give /system 500MB for some patches like s3 theme und system apps like avast anti theft and many others, we have enogh space for apps 1GB before only 400mb...

the new layout seems a bit more laggy due the slow samsung chip but better than cm9

and cm9 vs 2.3.6 was fast

so we can being very happy with this new layout but do it on a useful way with more system space!!!

btw now we can mount more on /datadata than in cm9 =>so pawitp you are the expert in rom programming i think you will find a solution for all users ;)

we can only give some advise for you
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
If "people can't test them", i.e. people can't feel them, would it actually matter? Your phone sounds like an isolated case which either means you have a really bad NAND, you're doing something wrong or you're exaggerating. No one's going to mistake 7 second start up time with 1 second start up time.

My phone has one of the slower NAND which will lag pretty badly if /data is entirely on it, yet I can do all the things you've mentioned without any problem. Disk access wouldn't have any effect on "microlag" either as a lag due to disk access would be far longer than "micro".

In the end, everything is about trade-offs and there's no reason to withhold a useful patch if one device/user is reacting badly to it (of course, if it's wide-spread, it's another matter, but I don't see that being the case here). LVM's so flexible anyway that if anyone has an exceptionally bad NAND and feels strongly about it, they can configure their /system and /data to be on their external SD without making any modification to their system files and without breaking the CM upgrade path. (Note: it's advanced and I won't be posting instructions.)

I've thought about giving 500MB for future-proofing, but due to Helly Bean and the experimental build, many users are already on their 400 MB partitions and it'll give problems later if some users are on 400MB partitions and some are on 500MB partitions (due to the way the installation code works, the size is only configured on the initial LVM setup). If 400MB is not enough for the next version of Android, only then will migration code be written to handle it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] msri3here:
From the screenshot he posted, I am guessing that he ran a script and it failed.

The text showing up on the screenshot is from the script and not the actual chip information
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MasterJam882:
That makes sense. Sry didn't thought about it...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
Yeah something happened.

Anyway I've Ctr C + Ctrl V and I got : M8G4DD so that slow chip ... that's it :eek:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Grigoriz:
Performance of the Experimental build is the same as previous nightly. But the phone is hotter. Also i still have media scanner issues.

I 'm on the slow chip.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] xpc21:
Thanks for your kinda attention! follow u instructions and what CPU Spy show me was: