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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] H-Body:
Thx for your explanation :) I'm sure lots of people will be very thankful for that, great work pawitp!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Galaid:
Maybe because it was never needed before?

Also, I'm still waiting for CM9 feature to switch internal and external SD, needes for some navigation apps.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] troyan1988:
OK, so SDCard is on moviNAND? It makes sense. Frequently using apps can stay on faster /data and large/or/seldom using apps should be moved on SDcard (moviNAND).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Uhlaf:
I've never had battery life this great. Thanks a ton.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Hampy:
Ok im using App 2 SD to move all apps that can be moved to SD card and all works great.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Funnnny:
just a question: can I manually repartition the movinand and leave only about 500Mb or more for /system and leave the rest for /sdcard, will it affect any thing when I flash a new version in the future ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dashqa:
So, what if I need to move apps to SD, but the can't be removing? There is so much apps that can't be moved.:confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
@pawit is there any way to make system use the movinand when onenand get filled :rolleyes: instead of moving apps to sd
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Christophe86:
I have 68 apps and 46 of them can be moved to sdcard.. to me, that seems quite a lot, no?! :screwy:

I think pawitp made a good decision to swap storage. It's a compromise we have to live with if we want to run jb without lag on most devices.

If you don't like it.. well, there are always alternatives out there to use.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] nitramcek:
So does it feel faster and smoothly then before? Or is it the same? Maybe it will be faster for the one's that have lag before.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fishears:
Not faster for me.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] gabbarsingh2000:
It's faster than the previous builds as I have slow moviNand. Had smurf with a lot of apps previously. Seems to be working smooth as of now.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
:good::good::good::good:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ramas123:
downloading all programs, but first immpresion - it works. Seems lag gone.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
some people have bad movinand chip the newest s1 have faster one so that why some people had lag on old builds because of slow io on movinand for data

so the new build will be faster for the two chips becuse onenand way faster than movinand but its smaller :p
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mnazim:
Bug Report

@pawitp: On the latest 817 ROM recovery selecting clear dalvik-cache does not clear the dalvik-cache ... probably as it is located in the /system partition. :confused:

Can anyone else confirm.???
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Hybridesque:
I'm staggered by the change in performance, up until this version, thought JB was a step too far for this venerable phone!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] archzz:
After using this latest build whole day, I can say It is a big step forward. Previous builds seem to get laggy quite often. Now apps load way faster and UI seems smooth like never before. And also for unknown reason GPS started working for me.

I don't get those people who complain about running low on space, I have quite a lot apps installed and have no problems with that.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] manolis:
join

join ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dashqa:
For me 52 can be moved, 51 apps can't be moved))
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
isn't enough :laugh::laugh:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] gevamran:
What kernel are u using?? Coz im having a problem in battery :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pawitp:
Not that it matters, the dalvik cache is always updated when Android detects a change in the apk file. The only time one might want to clear it is when flashing another ROM (and its not even necessary, I never do it) which /system will be erased anyway.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dashqa:
Of course.. but every day after new update, I will need to move this all 52 apps))

Can we make some more space please?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fishears:
I think not. CM10 is dead to us now Bro. Just have to face it. An arbitrary decision has been made without consultation or accurate data collection.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dongfangri:
It is still an alpha.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DopeJam:
tbh 0817 is great! I don't know why people have so many applications. If you need to move 50+ apps and you don't have problem with current build then don't install new one every few days. Skip 1-2 builds
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kraven001:
everybody realizes that whichever way you turn this there is little to be done to please everybody. just about before the swapped partitions version was posted there were posts "*****ing" about speed. now there are posts "*****ing" about space. no way there will be one big happy family.

just consider that at this moment you can jump freely between all kind of ROMs since more or less the partition table stays the same, only what goes where is a bit different. if, in the case of CM10 that gets changed all "hell" will break loose.

I think if there was a safe way, then the choice to split the data , system and use a fast data data would have been chosen. pawitp kept this phone for so long and took a lot of smart decisions to make things work.

the sad truth is that whatever most think this phone is showing up its age, thus we will have to live in compromise.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Bejda:
Of course it is sad for those that weren't feeling lags with precedent partitioning but please consider you have lived what we could call a golden age this last weeks... :)

It always been like this on aosp ROM,unlike stock Samsung firmware we always had to play with the fact we can't install so much apps without tricks, we had datafix when /datadata (for you .nodatadata would work as well without loss in performances i presume) and now it will be app2sd (don't know if it will go fine thought,i'm here waiting and reading your reports and opinions ;) ).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] salzheld:
Thanks pawit. The new version is fantastic.

No more lags here.

And this is the first time pico works.

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
I blame pawitp for not including an additional 1 GB of virtual magicalNAND in the new build.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mobydeek:
I assume the trade-off was between Speed and /data partition size.

Speed would inevitably affect 100% of i9000 CM10 users, however, there will be a significantly smaller segment that are affected by a reduced data partition size.

For me, the choice is clear; to accommodate the option that affects the majority of users.

Pawitp is in the best position to make this decision, he is the developer/maintainer for this device after all.

Finally, are there not ROMs based on CM10 that already use alternative partition sizes?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] caravagio:
Can someone please tell me if 0817 ROM will wipe all internal sd card, or just that 2 gigs partition?

And if I want to go back to a previous built what is the step that must be follow!

Thank guys.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
wtf with u guys , pwait is trying to get our s1 to the limit , he is working so hard to bring latest and fastest cm

and u are flaming him :mad::mad:

he gave us amazing cm9 and he will do it again with cm10 i trust pawit :cool:

xda rules: if u don't like the rom use another without flaming developers
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] bvt-1:
@pawitp

It would be very nice to write the date of nightly-version in the thread-title ... So anyone could see, if there's an update or not :thumbup:

... bin unterwegs ...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] logicmann:
+1

When peopz need more space, then they must buy a new phone.

PAWITP is the best.

Please don't listen to that peopz bro.

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Uhlaf:
Hey, you're probably using Devil kernel no? I had a lot of problems with Devil kernel and battery.

That screenshot was taken while using the stock kernel.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fishears:
My question is this: where is the data to support the change? You assume its there but have not seen it. How many people had significant lags (not just perceived lags) versus how many were satisfied (even if they had with lags)? Sorry, Bud, but we both live in a democracy - I thought you'd get it...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] scubadude:
Painful reading... Besides some interesting and useful comments from pawitp explaining a few things the mods could delete the last several pages of posts and it wouldn't effect the thread besides saving me some time. If you don't like the changes you are welcome to develop your own rom, pick any other custom rom or you can go back to the awesome stock gb rom Samsung provided.

We have an old phone with limited hardware and the devs are doing what is best for performance of the phone. Latest build is awesome on my phone.

Sorry for another useless post but seriously.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DROCSID:
Not trying to be offtopic, but what the hell do people do with >60 apps (and then whine here about the needed space). This is like hmmmmmkeeejjjjjj.

Damn. After we had cm7 and I got rid of it I thought I could throw away this phone. But the SGS is a real legend, just take a little attention that it is just not endless. Sometimes you need to do some things or change it, so be it.

Stop all the blabla... don't install that much games and apps, use it stock, take good care of it and let Teamhacksung (incl Pawitp) do the job, to a 3 years old phone.

Big up ++++
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fishears:
why not say "when people need CM10 they must buy new phone" - honestly, I despair at the foolish comments.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] meisterlampe2000:
That´s what i say !

We have about 3 CM10 Ports here, Devil´s one maintaining /datadata as it was on CM9. So if you don´t want to move to SD, just flash his Version and that´s it.

I think, and this it true for Cyanogenmod in a whole, compatibility is first after not asking for ETA´s :)

No Problem moving apps´s to SD, it is an official Android feature and not performance related once the app is started. So come on !
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jose.celestino:
There have been plenty of reports of lag from different people on this same thread, read it. Seems there are different phone batches with big performance differences. The pawitp solution solves that problem with the disadvantage you mentioned to which there are easy workarounds.

Again, this affected a number of users enough to have to be addressed, although I don't know know really where you would set the boundary to make it a bad problem.

Indeed, you're free to choose another ROM. I won't, and I wasn't even affected by the lag.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Kik0o:
No one is forcing you to use this rom.

The doors are open, if you dont like it flash something else.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] gabbarsingh2000:
What's the point of flaming about new data partition change? We still have the option to choose other ROM as per our convenience or revert back to older versions of cm9 / cm10.

All wishes of performance and space cannot be full filled with such a old phone with limited hardware capacity.

We are lucky enough to have Éclair, Froyo, Ginger Bread, ICS and now Jelly Beans, thanks to CM team and specially pawitp.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Bejda:
Don't you all think that if Pawitp took that much time to give answers to peoples "complaining" about new partitions way it's cause he considered their interrogations?

On an inverted side he never said from the beginning,unlike some comments here and there that apps data on moviNand couldn't produce some "lags" or at least slow apps launch for some users/devices.

A chance he's not as narrow-minded as some users.

...was thinking.. if some users doesn't want or can't go into an app2sd process and wasn't feeling any lags with apps data on moviNand he could try a cm10 based rom keeping traditional sgs aosp partitioning and even use a .nodatadata file in his /datadata partition and then will win on every side.. no "full memory" notification for a long time without lags just like his device was running on previous cm10 way of partitioning...it's never an answer or solution to say go elsewhere but it's something to consider I think.

Anyway Pawitp choice has been made considering ALL users and there's not so much choices left on this matter...seems legit ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Ogoshi_:
Official cm10 nightlies starting tonight :)

https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/3gjXR6AoSa2

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
yeah :victory::victory::victory::victory:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] edgardurao:
Congrats man! My phone feels like a new one. Clean install and this thing is amazing fast. You hit the jackpot!

Good work!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] najarc:
Faster and smoother :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] yahyoh:
OP :

WARNING: Upgrading from version before 20120817 will wipe your phonne
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sandhu795:
always read op before flashing mate .....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jelle2503:
i hope it stays dead for you and many others

i'd take pawitp his word anyday over a noob user like you

he made the right decision, no discussion possible

i dont see why you'd wanna be so stubborn and put your personal requirements for a rom over a credible dev decision to cut space
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] edgardurao:
If I open Google now and speak " do a barrel roll" phone rotates like a shiny one. Never seen this so fast!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jeebspawnshop:
Jesus Christ...

Please just LEAVE the forums and delete your account if you're going to bring that weak trash in here.

I'm not even gonna tell you to read, and I'm certainly not gonna suggest that maybe you shouldn't be in a DEVELOPER thread... no, I won't do these things.

I'll just tell you to leave.

Thanks in advance for not polluting this thread with more useless drivel.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] najarc:
Ok my bad, but is it normal that update is instaling mayby 10 % and then phone is reboting and turning on?? Everything i guess works fine but instalation wasn't completed. Regards
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jose.celestino:
The "Thanks" and the "Post Reply" buttons should be much further apart heh? :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] strickyy:
I think some people thought he was trolling.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] xrayA4T:
I was one of the people with lag issues. It was not perceived lag. In Flipboard to open a board took 10s or more. Now it is almost instantaneous. Thank Pawitp!

I can understand having to move lots of apps to sd can be frustrating but is that not a once off? This change required all of us to reinstall apps. Surely the next upgrade will keep all the apps on data and sd?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] strickyy:
Do you have Disable HW Overlays and Force GPU rendering in Developer options, ticked? What are those exactly, and do they make things smoother, or is it just a placebo?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
Did you read the warnings in red bold letters?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] najarc:
I downloaded update when info wasn't there :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Jens1969:
<OT> Damn! Today I started to count the days until I'm BACK from vacation! Thanks Pawit! :)</OT>

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pmos69:
OK then.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] burakgon:
Hey pawitp, I found accelerometer issue's reason. Now I will send the comprasion.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jasonfish1976:
Hi

I can't manage to download the gapps for 20120817

Has anyone got a alternative mirror?

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Ogoshi_:
Try here

http://code.google.com/p/cm10galaxysmtd/downloads/list

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DROCSID:
Bollocks, he clearly stated it, right after each other ;).

Pawitp editted the first post - Today, 02:30 PM

Pawitp posted "NEW BUILD ONLINE" - Today, 02:31 PM
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fishears:
Check my thanks meter compared to yours. Check my join date compared to yours. You know nothing about me. This is just another example of the ignorance & prejudice within the community. I've only asked for facts, not for my own way. Anyway, this is over. Let it go now. I won't post again in this thread.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] gevamran:
Im using semaphore kernel but i think im gonna back to stock. After i install the new version coz im still using 14/8 version. Thnx :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DROCSID:
These are the last ones, or you had inverted ones (custom).

Or am I wrong? ;)

20120715 -> http://www.cyanogenmod.nl/files/data/public/db3c9c2bc9aa7ad6dbee76c66a649502.php?lang=en

20120719 -> http://www.cyanogenmod.nl/files/data/public/0038b08c5f7dc95872f88bf1938116ae.php?lang=en

20120726 -> http://www.cyanogenmod.nl/files/data/public/4838fb0e52f851161ce2e2dd29f1a5d3.php?lang=en
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] H-Body:
Thx for todays update pawitp! I made an ultra clean installation from cm10 to JVU and again to cm10 and there is a noticable speed difference between the build from the 14th and today's one :)

For me, who bought the phone on its release day it's a good decision to switch partitions :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jasonfish1976:
Thanks a lot

Which gapps version to download?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Ogoshi_:
Welcome, 20120726 is the latest, I believe

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] AlwaysDroid:
Not trying to offend you in anyway, but when I flash devil kernel, I must flash after clearing the dalvik cache and cache partition to prevent boot loops. If I don't it boot loops almost every time. It would be great if it could be fixed.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] TigerCourage:
WOOOW! Today's build is AWESOME! Pawitp you are the best! My phone is running as fast and smooth as never before!

Why the heck there are people complaining about space? We had the same problem in ICS and everybody got used to it. Move apps to SD and that's it. That's why the feature got invented -.-.

Can't you guys see the advantages of having such a huge system?

We may probably get full custom unofficial Galaxy S3 rom based on CM10 because there is enough space for all the touchwiz framework crap!

Thanks again pawitp!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andoceo:
Any chance to have this latest version with no wipe ?

Or all further releases will wipe everything. I'm asking because I ma6 wait for a next release , as I'm satisfied with current release.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] msri3here:
As the internal partition layout has changed, it is not possible to install the latest build (1708) wihtout wipe.

Note: this will wipe you internal memory and not SD card.

Once you install the latest build, you may or may not need to wipe based on whether the current parition layout stays or changes...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mindphaser2k9:
The new ROM is so amazingly fast!

The only problem is that now need to move some apps to sdcard.

Do you think it is possible to make /dataapp partition in a slow memory and move /data/app there similar as it was with /data/data -> /datadata, just for user's apks? Don't think it can decrease the speed because we already have system apks in a slow memory and that works fine.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Paulroberts:
the wipe is because the partitions have moved
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Hrc4u:
Seems good so far..noticeable faster :) (mine probably have the slower chip...phone from the first batches)

Great work Paw! :)

Gt-I9000 Cm10
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mundano:
Can we restore a nadroid backup of data partition after the wipe? ((if smaller than 400MB, off course).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] hazwheel:
I dont suppose there is a cm10 resurection edition for the i9000 is there?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Aadilnz:
I know that I shouldn't be discussing other ROMS in this thread, but I think this is on topic.

Is there any SPEED difference between this and the Helly Bean datadata version? I've read the last few pages and I realize there is not /datadata, but instead a large /data which occupies the whole of the faster partition. Helly bean's datadata is on the same partition so there would be no speed difference right?

I hope I don't offend Pawtip or anyone else in the CM team by asking this here.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Pencha:
OMG, my sgs is runing like hell with todays build, i like it. Great job guyz, realy great job!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] xero2002:
Thank you very much for this excellent build. I am one of those who bought the SGS1 right when it hit the market. You cannot make everyone happy. But I'd rather take speed over app space any day. Sorry fishears, but I think there's more users with lag problems than people who have 50+ apps installed. I for one only install actually necessary apps. Not everything the market has to offer.

Once again thanks for keeping the SGS alive. Once a new Nexus phone will be released, I will most likely switch to that, but until then, I am very happy with what pawit has to offer.

The most ridiculous thing about this discussion is that you're complaining about an ALPHA rom, that is FREE. Other people invest their real life time to satisfy you.

Think about that.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fractoid:
Hi Guys,

I read the last dozen pages or so, but found only lots of people talking about speeeed :)

What I am wondering about though: how is the battery performance? Like CM9? Any bugs (Android OS) concerning that?

Would be nice if someone could give me some info on the current status :)

Thanks in advance, and as always, thanks a lot to Pawtip for keeping up the good work!

fractoid
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mobydeek:
This is the 2nd time I'm flashing CM10 from CM9:

Just wondering if it is normal for a bootloop to occur on flashing the CM10 zip? (after Nandroid-ing, wiping data and cache)

I then, pull the battery, enter recovery again, flash CM10 and on the 2nd go, then it works fine.

This has happened for me both times.

Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mnazim:
Big changes happening to CM10 ... Its normal...read last couple of pages.....:rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] matesc:
That is normal. Happens every time switching between GB/ICS/JB or Roms with different partition layouts.

---------- Post added at 12:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:39 AM ----------

I have usually 70+ apps - no games. Using maybe 20 of them. Copied most of them to SD, deleted few. No big deal. So far, one of the fastest (stock kernel) roms i have ever tried. There is a noticeable difference in speed to the previous release for me. Thanks to pawitp! :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sUsH667:
isn't sdcard and data on the same media in the new partition-setup?

greetz,

sUsH
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Segitz:
MASSIVE speedup on my end... great move!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jacobuscuracao:
yeah, yeah, I had a bootloop, too. Maybe because I forgot to do a full factory reset first.

Anyway, after 2nd flash + gapps everything is fine.

Nice, just before Happy Hour! (well, it IS friday night)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] burakgon:
Here are all sensor problems;

Stock ROM Delay: 20ms

CM10 Stock Kernel Delay: 40ms

Stock ROM Gravity and linear Sensor:

Not available on CM10:

Result: 2 Sensors are not working and accelerometer works with twice delay. Sorry if I'm wrong.