yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scubadude:
For those with lots of lag I recommend flashing again. I was on CM10 Alpha and it was super slow. Couldn't believe people were saying it was fast. Flashed Slim Beans which was also slow. Figured either people are crazy or it's me. Even read something about older phones having slower memory than newer ones etc.

Flashed Slim Beans a second time and this time there is no comparison. Now it is much faster. In fact it is almost like having a different phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] thinkpozzitive:
I'm on [ROM GNEXUS PORT] jro03c 4.1.1 beta 4 [oficial jelly bean stock rom] and at first it's sluggish as hell...after a while it does begin to work a little bit smoother....but then again, it's nothing compared to other ICS 4.0.3-4.0.4 custom roms out there....it still needs a lot of work.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AlwaysDroid:
It has nothing to do with datadata and everything to do with the fact that project butter hasn't even been implemented yet. For example I use slim and it is super fast, it has no datadata.

Also we need a driver update and until we get that no butter for us.

Plus its an alpha build. Give it a break.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BlueFlame4:
vSync is not working yet. Also all JB releases are currently signed "Alpha" or "Beta", so what do you expect? They are not (yet) made for being used as a daily driver. Thanks to the devs, the development will continue ;)

BTW: I also tried all current JB ROMs but they are still too unstable for me. It's nice to see that the i9000 can run them but actually they are not that stable yet.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] boiko2005:
yea it`s slow

i`m using JR003C it seems so slow and the network signal is down sometimes..:confused :confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] 2Pietjuh2:
There is a fix for the slow V6 on teamjellybean.noez.in but this is down for now... Wait for V7 and it will be smooth i think.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yahyoh:
no its not i've tested the one with datadata and the one without there is no difference :p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rkaede:
you are right about the Beta. but the vsync is already implemented. looking how it runs on nexus s.

i believe it will be the same with i9000. it just takes time to port.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] festr:
Hello,

I have the same problem with slowiness. The problem seems to be in slow I/O operations - I have checked developer options -> show CPU usage and the blue bar is dominating. Also vmstat -n 10 in terminal shows a lot of time spent in WA. If I flash ICS slim it does not have this problem.

So what now? What ROM to try? It can be the datadata problem? Which JB roms uses datadata?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jcsogo:
I was also a bit disappointed, after installing Cyanogen Mod 10 this morning, but I have just updated it to the compilation made available today and it is quite useable right now. Not sure if as fast as ICS, but one can use it daily.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] festr:
I had to move to ICS because the I/O operations was so slow that I barerly can use the rom. On ICS everything smooth as butter. Can someone else confirm that the latest CM10 is fast as ICS? (I think that without moving datadata to fast partition will be not possible).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rkaede:
latest cm10 is fast. only 1 issue the availability of RAM. with ics i can get 180-200+ free RAM. CM10 maybe arr 80-120MB. so u can feel it when doing multitask.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] festr:
so no blue bars in cpu usage anymore on the latest cm10?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] paradisezt:
Maybe i'm lucky, but on my side i must say that JB is better than ICS. BUT you have to start from a clean situation; so wipe everything, factory reset and then i'll see the real feeling of JB.

I feel no differences in terms of speed from datadata - no datadata, pawitp has done a geat job to solve the problem and CM10 now i think it's the most stable JB ROM for Galaxy S.

I know that every phone and user it's not the same, so this is my experience brought to you.

Have a good battery life and flash safely!:angel:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kshitiz_Indian:
I did start with a clean Wipe when I switched to CM10, but unfortunately it seems my phone's I/O hardware is exceptionally slow. UI Flow etc. were all great; but I was getting huge amounts of lag when opening apps (even whatsapp). I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the datadata thing, since databases and libraries are also on the slower NAND now. I tried Helly Bean rom too (one with Datatata) and situation was still there. So I reckoned maybe I should wait a while before switching to CM10. People whose phone's are flying with current CM10 are actually quite lucky. :-/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Koolgameboy01:
give Elites Gnex a try .. its smooth as hell.. and has a decent battery life compared to cm10
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mangarik:
that is the reason why I still stick at the ginger bread :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ogoshi_:
I'm using pawitp's cm10 build too and other than a short lag with the launcher sometimes, it's running fantasticly well on my i9000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mrkraver:
yeah, it's slow.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kshitiz_Indian:
Pawitp just posted an image in the CM10 thread showing us the reason for the lag. The I/O hardware is too slow on our phone; the kernel is always just writing files to the disk, rendering it unable to cater to the UI thread or anything else for that matter. :-/

Looks like I/O will be the bottleneck to our phone's Android future. :-/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rkaede:
im assuming it happens the same for nexus s?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Vertron:
That's why all ICS and some JB roms use the /datadata partition which doesn't suffer from slow I/O performance.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burakgon:
There is a big difference brother.

/datadata is much faster than it.

That's because of nand difference. Phone lags when loading some application data without /data/data.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jonttuv:
Maybe it's slow because jelly bean i/o in i9000 isn't working well.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yahyoh:
Idk :o

Yesterday I was testing cm9 vs cm10 on 2 sgs and I saw cm10 is little faster even without datadata

But io is slow as hell on cm10 :(

On antutu io test with cm9 @1.2 I get between 390-460 on cm10 the highest I've got is 280 :(

I think I will give helly bean a try :cool:

sent from another galaxy
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yahyoh:
No because sgs1 have bad slow nand ( I think that what made Sammy don't give us official ICS cuz ICS is more power Hungary than GB )

As I know nexus s have better nand that's what make nexus s faster without any lag :o

sent from another galaxy
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kshitiz_Indian:
Yes, but I tried Helly Bean ROM (the one with /datadata) too. It was better, but the difference wasn't ground breaking.

Also, if you put /datadata with JellyBean you send some other stuff across to the slow NAND which was meant to be on the /system partition, so you trade off anyways. Maybe one day someone can figure out a perfect trade-off of what files to keep on system and maybe then pawitp will switch back to /datadata!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] PartyVirginX10:
these comment replies completely butchered what OP was trying to say,
[Galaxy S I9000 General] belmethos:
I am using helly bean 03 08 right now, after cleaning some unused apps and datafix app to choose what stays at datadata , i found it to be a leeper. Only time it lags is the scanning of sd carda, like first scan after boot etc. Apart from that i dont see too much difference compared to ics. And it will get better, i still believe our galaxy is capable of JB.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] durikmel:
Speedup for slow I/O

The simple solution for that is to switch back to writeback journalling. For some reason the alpha generates a ordered journalled /data partition, which is horribly slow.

tune2fs -o journal_data_writeback /dev/block/mmcblk0p2

helps with that a lot. It is the single most dramatic speedup I ever experienced, and it seems to run overall very smooth now.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] upichie:
Can anyone provide more information on this? What is write back journalling exactly? I'm curious to know more.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] festr:
Hello can.anyone with the knowledge how was datadata placed and formatted on ics? And how the cm10 differs from.inc in this part? Is it the only writeback or was the datadata on another media than data?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lorryb:
Now I'm using the remics-jb 1.0.1 and its really laggy compared to the 4.0.4 ics version. But the performance will surely improve as new updates will come.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] g virus:
My sgs works better with devil kernel, which has /datadata partition.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] unrealboot1:
i use helly bean its fast as hell.....Jellybean slow? B*LLSH*T
[Galaxy S I9000 General] paul279:
I have also testes Helly Bean And Slim JB, but it is slower than ICS and I think the "new" things in Jelly Bean (Link to the new Features is not worth to upgrade!

So if you want a smooth and fast Rom take "Slim ICS" and wait a few months. I think than is "Jelly Bean" as smooth and fast as ICS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ballsofsteel:
Have you ever used iOS? As primitive as it is, its speed puts all JB ROMs to shame. Fortunately the gap will probably close in the future.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sidbarret:
Hello guys, i'm using the port of Jelly Bean from galaxy nexus and it is more stable and faster than some ICS roms. Obviously it is a beta ROM, like the other JB roms, so there are some features that do not work yet.

Sent from GT-I9000 with Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S I9000 General] _r00t-:
Jelly Bean

I'm using the alpha version of unofficial CM10 and everything runs quite well ... there's no any serious problem except the battery drain... for the moment...

I was running the helly bean and for some reason after some time my galaxy s was too slow...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] -Blackout-:
I am using TAJB v5 ROM. I've tried to use newer versions like v6 and 7.1 but every single time I install a new "better" version there seems to be more and more bugs then there were before. I don't know if it's only me or is the v5 really the only daily ROM out there (well there are some bugs in v5 like ringtone sets to -nothing- after reboot :confused: and my phone seems to be "waking up" on his own :eek:)

But despite all I think that JB is fast and reliable :good:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Meerx:
which is better in benchmarks: ICS or JB ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lomistars:
i'm running CyanogendMod 10 Alpha, it's really awesome ROM really smooth & fast & less bug

i don't feel i need to go back to ICS again JB has owned my phone.

We shud really thank CM10 team for bringing us the JellyBean experience :) they are the best :cowboy: !
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mr. Cloggy:
Don't know and doesn't exactly matter, benchmarks don't say alot about the actual smoothness of a ROM.

I must say, today's build of CM10 Alpha is the first one that's almost lagless on my Galaxy S after 12 hours. Now it's almost as smooth as the latest CM9! :good:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] festr:
Is there any public changelog for the CM10 where we can see what changed that the speed is better?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AlwaysDroid:
Wow. Configuring the journal write back mode with tune2fs -o journal_writeback_mode /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 , has increased the speed if my phone by ALOT. My phone was already super smooth and not suffering from any lag, but this takes it to a whole new level. Thanks to the guy who figures this out. :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kshitiz_Indian:
Wouldn't that increase the data loss risk significantly? From what I can gather the data loss risks are the single big reason why ordered mode is favored by and large.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] upichie:
Thank you for mentioning this.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] festr:
Hello, I'm trying helly bean and it performs very well as it uses datadata on fast NAND oposite to early CM10. Unfortunatly I'm to lazy to try the latest CM10 with data=writeback feature in semaphore kernel so I'm curiouse if someone with slow NAND as I compared thos two roms already.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] upichie:
I tried it, but it wasn't as fast as Helly Bean (especially when opening apps). Then again, I didn't know how to verify if the setting actual took effect.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kngroo:
Try X-Bean, it's faster even with stock launcher.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] t88:
Yes, try X-Bean 1.0. It's been 2 days and my phone is still ok so far, quite responsive.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burakgon:
Xbean won't make your phone faster. But hellybean will. Because it's using datadata. Try it. And stick with it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] aditya104:
CM10 Alpha Jelly Bean -Stock Kernel

Was good first few days. Now, since adding a few widgets and icon pack, feels laggy. Still no crashes so far.

Switching back to CM9 Nightly as it was fast and complete and good for daily use.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pmos69:
Actually no.

Data loss risk is actually very low. At most there's a risk of getting some stale data on an unclean shutdown.

Writeback mode is actually similar to the default journaling mode of some other journaled filesystems like JFS and XFS.

You're talking about not forcing the order of writing to disk between data and its corresponding journal metadata.

That being said, the performance increase it gives is not what will make a difference between lag and no lag. It is faster, but not enough.

Dropping the journal would have a bigger impact, but then you would be getting into the real danger zone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] daniel_m17:
it's works good to me
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pmos69:
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[Galaxy S I9000 General] TasTony:
Same as my flashed experience.

I had flashed X-beam,cm10 etc... there were all not smooth.

But I will keep watch JB's improve till it's come to stable and I will flash at that time.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] exadeci:
I tried:

JellyTab

HellyBean

SlimBean

Cyanogenmod10 (pawitp)

X-bean

Paranoidandroid

And they all become really slow in matters of days (I don't like task killers but even with a task killer it wouldn't make them faster) so I'm going back to slimics and I will wait for a better JB rom (I have only around 20 apps that I install on my phone)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Famzz:
I'm using tajb and its great. Have you tried overclocking? If yes and its still sluggish did you wipe before install? If yes then download advanced task killer free from the play store open it and hit kill selected apps or whatever it is. If its still slow then update your kernel to devil kernel 1.1.3.:o

Hope this helps.:D

Hit thanks if i helped you

-Famzz
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Catfish81:
If you are using Devil kernel, try getting devil kernel manager and changing the CPU governor profile settings. I use either "lagfree" or "performance" governor setting with the profile setting on "normal". Also check the Screen off - Max Freq setting in CPU section, I set mine to 1000 and it helps to keep the interface moving smooth.

Can't say I've had it lagging down to the point that it is irritating since I have set these things with devil kernel manager.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Vertron:
Try Elite's beta 9r rom. Alot of people saying performance doesn't degrade after a few days.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] iplaman:
Exactly the same here. Back to slimics.

Waiting until Jellybean builds will be faster and stable
[Galaxy S I9000 General] deady2k:
I have also problems with JB. I have CM10 last version.

My phone always had this bug, when I restart the phone, even under ICS, my RAM after a while shows 0.0 MB free RAM.

If this happens my phone is not useable. Even while reading an sms the App gets killed by the system.

In ICS 2-3 restarts an the Problem was gone and it stays at this value. On JB nothing helps exept the DEVIL Kernel.

Anyone else with this kind of problem?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] biggynr3:
Hi

BJ is not for S :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] blufox88:
I tried x-bean not so long ago and it was slow death...went back to ICS...but im curious to try C-Rom Bean now...looking good..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jelle2503:
anyone still not on cm10 doesnt know how to wipe and restore data

srsly they are missing out on fastest rom for i9000

Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9000 met Tapatalk
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rdrm69:
Could anyone do benchmarks for different JB ROMs like the one for ICS? This would help.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pmos69:
Maybe you have some misbehaving app. A lot of apps still have JB related bugs.

Been using cm10 for about a month. If anything, it becomes faster with usage.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] GalaxySWifi4:
The new build of paranoid android is very fast and smooth.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] smallprint:
Guys I don't know if it's just me, but if you have Facebook installed try to uninstall it! I've found this helped a lot!

It's actually the worst app ever. It's a waste of RAM with its stupid service that seems to do nothing at all. It doesn't even give me any of my notifications, which makes me wonder what the point is of using an always running service in the RAM. I mean it doesn't speed the opening of the app or preload the news feed or anything (which takes ages anyway).

Actually it was this unstoppable service that frustrated me to delete the app (it would restart itself no matter what i tried). So I deleted the app and it actually made a substantial difference, so much so that my browser which was previously too slow to consider using, now works great! And on top of that it loads the mobile Facebook page so much quicker than the app! Win win situation :D

Give it a try.. let me know if it helps anyone :thumbup:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mregmi121:
JB is slow as hell in my Nexus S i9023 as well, which is ota update from google.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] swimmtools:
:good:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] noban90:
the elitemovil port is the best jb at least for me :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] coffeehandle:
Idk if any dev or other interested patron saw this, but apparently this is a MIUI based Rom but has the ability to use the sense camera mod on it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=28751980

Or am I just being naive
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] skw5115:
Yeah I saw this as well I think I recall seeing a few like it ... I hope we can maintain the sense camera software on a miui Rom...the best of both worlds there
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] coffeehandle:
Absolutely!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] BrianBaker:
I personally don't like MIUI but I'd give it a shot it I could retain image sense.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] coffeehandle:
How could you not like it lol.

But if it's on miui, technically it could be on any AOSP rom
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
I don't either. I don't want my phone to look like a iPhone. I think the interface is too Apple for me. It's the one ROM I never even give a second thought about. Most I will give a shot to.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] skw5115:
I prefer the fluidity and customization that miui provides...image sense is the icing on the cake for me...but to each his own I suppose

Edit: however it sounds like with jelly bean coming and how smoothly it should be miui may fade into the background for me...but until then I love miui lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
Yeah I think Project Butter may even the playing field a bit. I think the customization of AOKP (or CM) plus Project Butter may win you over, haha.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] coffeehandle:
Lol project butter? Never heard of it
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] skw5115:
Ok so apparently it's sense based miui...I wish I knew how to develop so I could attempt a similar Rom for our device
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] veerusayz:
Hi ,

I've registered here just to post this question. I have Samsung Galaxy Pop mobile which is running on android OS 2.3.

I don't have any idea about rooting and all but came to know through google and I've successfully rooted my device.

It was working fine until I tried to update custom ROM. After installing and restarting my phone, it is showing android on screen but nothing happening.

Please let me know how to make it work.

Thanks in advance.

Thanks,

Veera
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] veerusayz:
Calling experts..could u pls suggest.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] adil_:
You have soft bricked your phone...

Flash a official firmware through Odin...

Else if you have nandroid backup, you can restore that...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] veerusayz:
Thanks for ur reply

Im entirely new to this stuff

could you give me the details and process to flash

Where can I get firmware?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ozelot64:
You can find all the info here ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] veerusayz:
Thanks a lot..My mobile is back and running now :)

It just took me 10 minutes :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ozelot64:
Happy to read that !!

:D
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hedgehog90:
bump
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] LostInTheMuzik:
Can someone make a wallpaper like these but with the falcons logo in the background? I couldn't find one nor have the skills to do it, it would be really appreciated

Sent from a KANGED Galaxy
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Gotroot:
I have a few but it wont let me uploaf them here
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] LostInTheMuzik:
For real? Awesome can you send them to my email, I'll pm you the address

Sent from a KANGED Galaxy
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] rainbowkisses:
Nice!

Any AZ Cardinals?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] blagginspaziyonokip:
MOD EDIT: Link removed, posting paid apps is considered warez and is against the rules.

Sent from my GT-S5360 Toaster
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] Quinny899:
No they cannot, that would be illegal.

Do not post warez on xda, you will be banned. Reported to mods and screenshot taken, for proof
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] Filip98:
Sry no warez on xda. And porting whould taje recreating hundreds and maybe thousands of lines of code....
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] The-Captain:
Thread Closed:

Against the rules to post warez.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kuplet:
Since I am very new to flashing, rooting, etc with Android phones. I was wondering if you guys could give me tips or advice on what my next move would be. So I just reverted my Desire Z to Froyo 2.2 from GB 2.3. Since I want to learn and try out different ROMS - should I:

1) Perma-root and install clockwork recovery mod? Which rooting method is best for Froyo 2.2(kinda confused)?

2) If not, which version of android is best for me to upgrade to be able to root?

3) Lastly, which ROMS are best?

Thanks in advance! :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biohazrd51:
The most supported method (and what 99% of the people will point you towards) is the rooting method on the Xda Wiki. If you follow that you should be fine.

As far as ROMs, everyone has a preference. Complete the steps above and try out what you like. No one ROM (or even handful of ROMs) is the best.

EDIT: DO NOT USE VISIONARY
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Android Manual:
Good Luck! :)

1.)Root your Phone the "Clean Way" using Rage http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=843014 Be sure to read everything carefully or you brick your phone bro :)

2.)

The best version of Android for Rooting is Stock Android 2.2 :D NOT 2.2.1 or any version higher!

3.)

Every ROM is great just pick the right one for you :) or you could try the one of the ROMs on my Signature :)

Sent from my Desire Z using Opera Mobile
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kuplet:
Thanks for the replies. I ended up using the xda Wiki guide and was able to root my DZ with Froyo 2.2. So far so good, now reading all about the different ROMS that are posted in the development section. Should be done by next week, lol.- theres so many posted. I also trying to learn more about the ins and outs of using the clockwork recovery mod.

Hopefully I don't mess up my backup CP....
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haxn2:
Hi,

I tried a lot of roms, gingerbread (2.3) and ice cream sandwitch (4.0).

Best rom is ILWT from tsubus. Take it!

Greets

Haxn