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[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Monfro:
Some explanations about new partition layout

SOME EXPLANATIONS ABOUT NEW PARTITION LAYOUT

Our Tab has 2 different ROM chip:

Fast NAND: OneNAND, SLC, 512MB

Slower NAND: MoviNAND, MLC, 8/16GB

With the new partition layout OneNAND (high speed reading and high speed writing) is used for data.

System is moved to MoviNAND (high speed reading but low speed writing).

This way the tab becomes faster and smoother, but we have to renounce to some app space (big apps can be moved to SD).

This means we will have enough system space also for future Android releases (since system is becoming bigger in every new release).

Before this change OneNAND was used for system, and part of MoviNAND for data, which meant worst performances.

A poll in Galaxy S CM10 thread showed that 77% of users are satisfied with the new layout.

I can confirm that performances are really better.

Anyway from my understanding erezak in his unofficial CM10 nightly builds will keep the old partition layout, so users will have the possibility to chose the version they prefere.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] fatbuccha:
Hello guys im on humbertos 23rd build, anyone having SOD? Im having sod every day, im on stock clocked no oc and uv, any idea whats causing this? Thanks

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] _Derk_:
Thanks for clarification.

I moved every app possible, even the tiny ones to SD but I can't even restore the previous installed apps - and I already uninstalled the large ones like Chome (over 40 MB, not able to move to SD, consuming nearly 10% of available space).

So with this layout users will have a strong limitation in installing apps AND having data associated with these...

When I search around in threads I can read "Many people have complained that the new Cyanogenmod 10 partition layout reserved too little space for user application and their data." So I don't know if reserving lots of space for future releases is better than having space available for daily usage...

I also don't know if Galaxy S users are representative for SGT users to decide about the partition layout, at least we could have been asked...

For me it's clear that I will go back to the old layout and stick with it until my tab breaks even if there are no further updates!

The first time that I'm unhappy with the CM10 development :crying:

edit: I forgot to mention that the system also gets instable with few space left for the apps to use for their data, so you even can't install them until the space is used up but should have around 100 MB free to ensure system stability. This means we have instead of close to 2GB (-100MB) now only around 350 MB for apps and their data which in my view clearly is too few!

Bye,

Derk
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] erezak:
I will probably release two variants eventually.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] asvantypography:
U should try this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1847516
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Kreaninw:
Oh, that's bad. Some apps can't move to SD card.

Old layout please >.<
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] asvantypography:
Just partition your sdcard ;)
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] _Derk_:
Already did before complaining ;)

It shifts the apps, but whenever I try to restore a missing app from Titanium or install an update from the market the system reboots.

Partitioning doesn't change the apps behaviour and limitation to be transferred to SD or not.

Try yourself to place Chrome on the SD...

Bye,

Derk
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] asvantypography:
Lol.. are u sure?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] OsitKP:
Sign under every word! Hypothetical future OS releases instead of daily needs. Strange choice, imho. Thus we'll get fast, reliable system with no user's apps. :(
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] _Derk_:
Well, quite - my version is the latest available Beta, having double the size of yours :)

Bye,

Derk

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Slightly OT but...

The trend today goes to medical spends for silicone boobs and erectile dysfunction helping pills instead of alzheimer disease curement.

So in the future we have old people with big boobs and strong erections but they can't remember for what this was good... :silly:

Bye,

Derk
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] OsitKP:
What is the aim to move apps to FAST partition in case we all in all have to move 'em to extermal card, which is hardly faster than internal flash.

Once again. What is the sense of new layout when these scripts move apps to the partition they were located before? They WOULDN'T run faster and the system on new partition runs slower. What are the benefits?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] alroger:
APPS DATA, for best writing speeds, getting the most of our Tabs!

You should be able to move ANY APP to sdcard, or external - internal is usually faster, as long you repartition it accordingly.

Some apps say they are not compatible for moving but thats because they wont work on FAT partitions, not because it was moved. Repartitilning your sd for app use will creat another fully compatible partition for apps that they wont even know they are "moved".
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] salahmed:
This is because CM is not a device specific rom, it is a generic rom, and I think when it is get more stable we will have a layout specific to our tab.

Sent from my GT-P1000
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] OsitKP:
I know it. But what for am I to do all this staff, if only reason is some future OS, when probably our tab will be out of date. The more we've got layout incompatibility with previous CM. Too much trouble and no real profit... (IMHO).
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] asvantypography:
finally ;)

sorry out of topic
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] alroger:
No future OS, its for real speed now. Have you tried?

Just like MTD this is going to be the new CM standard, for any device.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Riki1kenobi:
Our Tab IS ALREADY out of date....

The reason the Devs go down this path is to try and keep it current, i.e. what point is there running JB IF it is slow, laggy, missing key features etc....By changing layouts it allows changes/updates to happen.

IF you don't like/agree with it then you will have to admit your tab is stuck on an earlier release and be happy with that choice. Otherwise, suck it up and (for the time being) lose the bloatware from your tab.

I don't get why people flash their tab and then moan that they can't get ALL their apps to work! IT is a W.I.P. (Work in progress). You gotta learn to walk BEFORE you can run!
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] asvantypography:
good answer so far.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] hcarrega:
:laugh:brilliant post:D
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] OsitKP:
I've got your point and partially agree with you. But do you hear me? Where do you see higher speed? I see no difference with previous layout. Even more, as someone wrote earlier, system now runs on SLOW partition and part of apps is moved to SLOW partition (where they were before) or to SD-card. Where is incredible speed? :D
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] _Derk_:
Sure?

And from Speed I can't say that it's so much faster than CM9.

Initial bootscreen is like 5-10 times longer than before.

Gapps crashing, YT uninstalled because it was FCing after each reboot, etc. pp.

By reserving triple the space available before for the system partition as unused space?

This then will last until CM99 - oh, wait, CM20 has so much different requirements that it won't run on SGT anyways...

And this exactly what I will do.

CM10 Release 3 or any later published kang.

Not everyone fills his tab with bloatware.

Chrome 18 is 46,79 MB pure programm and easily collecting some MB on data - out of only 456 MB - over 10% for only one app...

And I don't moan that any app doesn't run anymore, it's just that now the apps are LIMITED by available space by factor 1/4 in comparison to build 3. If this for you is no limitation, then may be it's because you dont really USE the tab.

If there is an announced limitation I have to live with it, but not anouncing that you can't use the amount of apps you prior used means just a step in the wrong direction!

And surely I know how to walk or run after >30 years owning computers and do some soldering, some programming and even make a living out of it telling multinational companies CIOs how to design their IT...

Bye,

Derk
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] juanpirulo:
Hi Alroger, could you please tell me if is there any way to make a cm10 compilation from sgt7 source? (no cyanogen source, I get it allready) If i compile from sgt7 i will get the new partition layout? cheers.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] phearus:
@asvantypography What version / Launcher are you running there?

Note: picture attached to your post shows "Use UI Tablet Mode" setting on the home screen settings page.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] juanpirulo:
Humberos latest cm10 with sbradymobile settings. Correct me if i am wrong.

Enviado desde mi GT-I9100 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] nitol:
Awesome work! But how to flash another ROM? Cannot flash any other ROM, showing error7.not even any other job ROMs are flashing.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] adi6262:
Restock .

read the thread

Sorry for earlier harsh post .
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] juanpirulo:
If you flash latest ROM 29-08 you will have to restock before . Cheers

Enviado desde mi GT-I9100 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] phearus:
It looks more like Apex Launcher - except it isn't (I have checked). I just checked HumberOS's and it isn't that either. Any more Ideas?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] a-vista:
I am sure you have this option "tablet mode" in the HumberOS ROM, i am using it right now.

Sent from my GT-P1000L
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] phearus:
Yeah it is there on HumberOS's build - but not in the launcher Homescreen settings - like in that dudes picture.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Riki1kenobi:
I get what you're saying mate, but you are missing the most fundamental point of THIS ROM......it is a WORK IN PROGRESS

Some things will need a lot of ironing out BEFORE it is ready for a daily driver! Repartitioning makes perfect sense to get all the functionality of Jelly Bean, at the moment you wont see the benefits BECAUSE all the wrinkles have yet to be ironed out, but give it time. IF you require space then, at the mo, this ROM is NOT FOR YOU. But I would guess that when all the wrinkles are worked out it will be ;)

When I flash a Test ROM I do it with the FULL knowledge that NOT EVERYTHING WORKS and it is by NO MEANS READY for use as a DAILY DRIVER. BTW, my tab is rocking HumberOS 2308 edition and apart from a few slow downs has been my daily driver since release.

Peace folks and happy flashing :good:
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] _Derk_:
Oh, so you use a alpha state ROM as daily driver, wasn't it that you stated not to do so? :eek:

Bye,

Derk
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] alroger:
Just started trying to build here... using sgt7 common stuff (sbradymobile tweaks I hope) and humberos kernel. If it works I will post my build tips.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Riki1kenobi:
Nope.....I did say that you shouldn't flash an Alpha ROM and expect it to work like a full release though, BIG difference ;)

For me Humberto's ROM is perfectly usable as a daily driver but TBH I only flashed to test it out. Didn't expect it to be SO GOOD but for me it's a keeper until this ROM takes shape.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] sbradymobile:
Yeah, it should all be working if you use the proprietary files from one of the newer jellybean builds.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Qqqxxxzzz:
I'm getting lots of freezes with build 4.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] bubblebob:
Phone doesn't work. ANyone else having the same problem?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] priyana:
Obviously you didn't read the discussion since build 4 out?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] greatdaneduke:
Any idea when the sch-I800 will be able to satisfy its sweet tooth?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] _Derk_:
So you stay on stable releases until others tested and the release gets stable - but when testers claim something went wrong in their opinion you state they shouldn't do so...

Welcome in the world of no further development because of lack of testers!

I'm out of the new partitioning as tester and stick to the old one as long as updates will be provided, but at least I DID TESTING instead of just commenting as you do. I installed every release of cdesai as well as every of Humberto, now I hope Humberto sticks to the old layout as erezak does (which I'm running now after restocking - build 2012-08-30).

Bye,

Derk
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] tkpault:
GT-P1000T is ALIVE :)

Sorry for the long delay in getting back to you. I tried the JK3 as you suggested. Couldn't get it to flash through CWM properly. It would say it had done it but each time I restarted and checked. Well I ended up doing a manual copy and paste with Root Explorer into /radio overwriting the modem.bin file with the JK3 version. Rebooted phone. Guess what...it worked.

Awesome, my Telstra GT-P1000T is alive...just texted my partner to try it out. Thank you so much for your kind advice priyana you rock.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] priyana:
You are welcome.

But there was no guess work if you had followed my instruction words by words.

"Unzip and look for the modem.bin and copy and paste to /radio/modem.bin"

flashing modem is so pre-MTD....

and soon /system/vendor/modem.bin ... ARG!!!
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] darkoxx:
Any news experiment on external sd..mounted or not?in BUILT3 it was not mounted..whot about this one? Anyone tested?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] asvantypography:
apex launcher v1.3.0 beta3

nope,, it's a launcher

restock

it's "Apex Launcher v1.3.0 beta 3"

mounted
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] tkpault:
:) It had other files in the JK3 zip file that I thought might be required. I had already flashed another modem & RIL before I first spoke with you - cwm-RIL-I9250TDVLF1.zip - thought this may fix things...no it didn't. Now my Baseband says:I9000UGJK3

I guess it's the RIL that needs replacing. I will try a clean install of HumberOS build 23.08 this weekend and just replace the modem.bin file.

Thanks again for your assistance.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Riki1kenobi:
So I guess you missed the "TBH I only flashed to TEST" bit of my post then? :p. BTW, some people don't have unlimited downloads so therefore, cannot flash every new release. That doesn't make them any less important to someone who flashes ALL of them!

I would like to see a strict Tester etiquette implemented on the XDA. A set of rules and guidelines to be followed and adhered to. Far too many people are testing when they have little to NO clue what they are doing or why DEVs make changes! This leads to frustrations amongst users (who think they are testers) when thing don't work or they don't know how to fix issues! In turn, this leads to untold frustration on the part of the Dev (speaking from personal experience) when you are constantly mithered by users with simple and basic problems!

To be a tester means using a ROM AT YOUR OWN RISK and knowing beforehand that things will be missing or NOT WORK CORRECT!

Peace :good:
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] stolipl:
Any links to gapps aren't working.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Monfro:
Unfortunately build 4 (CM10 experimental 29.08.2012) is affected by the memory management issue.

Memory is not released by non used apps and lead to freezes.

HumberOS fixed the problem using CM9 memory management.

For this reason is really hard to make performance comparison between the old and the new partition layout.

While i was testing i missed some tweaks of HumberOS build, like advanced device settings (gpu oc, fast charge... )
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] asvantypography:
remember,, it's still a "Preview" build
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] a-vista:
New ROM

@All,

Humberto just upload a new ROM on his site.

Enjoy!!
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] juanpirulo:
anyone knows if humberos Rom have got the new partition layout?. Can we flash it on top the preview without restock?

cheers.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Newguy70:
Will this work on the p1010? Thnx in advance.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] asvantypography:
flashing it now ;)

features :

More RAM available

Wifi fixes

Smooth UI

Internal/External mounts
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] a-vista:
No, It has the old partiton...you can flash over the last build.

Att
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Stilm:
I'm wondering if with the new partition layout we can use a sd-ext partition for apk's with the likes of s2e, a2sd or cronmod. Link2sd should work but I find it doesn't suit my needs from experience in ace/gio and their 178MB /data lol

My idea was, using my 2GB external card formatted to ext4 just for apk installs and leave /data/data on the internal memory... this should make things faster as intended with new layout and "fix" the low space issue. Or am I wrong?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] asvantypography:
flashed ;)
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] adi6262:
Review?? :confused: :P
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] ayysir:
Use cronmod app2sd init.d script for sd-ext, just partition your external SD for ext4 - 1gb and boom

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Damn I missed this, your right. S2e is a great app if you don't want to use init.d scripts. I use it for my good ol hd2
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Sandzak385:
@humberos, I have installed your CM10 ROM 31/08 and when I hold up the home button, it doesn't come the recent apps...
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] adi6262:
That's coz in JB long press home doesn't show recent apps . (Its shortcut for google now ) . Use soft keys or reassign hardware key functions .
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Qqqxxxzzz:
NO!!!!!
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] ValenteL:
Not True.

Here on SGT on HumberOS CM10 we have that w/ menu touch if we validate it on Settings/system/physic touch... etc. Home or menu is same for me.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] jayare313:
Will there be a cdma version or shall we just wait for a port?? I'm on cm9 and its by far the best from for our dead device.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] looker1:
:good:

You need to go to Settings and choose tablet mode :) Same asi ni previous build.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] ValenteL:
Whit tablet mode we have the 3 capacitive buttons inside screen, it's normal whit... a single touch is enough...

But on phone mode we can long touch on menu button and we have recent appls. (If activated on settings/system etc...)
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] chanreii:
what happened?

im flashing the new build of humberOs, and it wont flash..this message always appears.

assert failed: run_program("/tmp/updater.sh") == 0

E: Error in /sdcard/sgt7-cm10-20120831-HumberOs-p1.zip

(Status 7)

Installation aborted.

What does this mean?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] asvantypography:
reflash overcome kernel
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] chanreii:
reflash don't work so i restock since it wont boot :) so i successfully flashed humberOs'.

the whole rom is sick! pretty amazing and fantastic! i like the status bar (tablet mode) the clock font or display is nice..

ONE PROBLEM: why does it take forever to download in play store? seriously. i got batch of apps to download but it won't download. just stuck with "downloading". funny thing is it will only download after i reboot the tablet. it's pretty annoying that you have to reboot just to download..i tried updating the play store with that of 3.18.16 version but same thing happen :(

build 4 of cdesai is awesome on the internet/wifi/play store download for me, UI of humberOs' is a plus for me. i wish they're combined. hehe.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] nemory:
You don't have to. My tab is fine now, but still no GAPPS. All I did is, wipe everything out, installed the ROM again. rebooted.

gonna try install the gapps again.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] cdesai:
Known

:-)

that isn't what you call bricked

Sent from my GT-P1000
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] phlooke:
Haha, yeah I know BUT, after doing that and then re-trying the GAPPS and still getting the boot loop I started messing with things I shouldn't have been messing with in CWM. That meant I had to re-stock.

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[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] nemory:
Still no luck.

Still in a boot loop.

I tried everything.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] grukko:
latest gapps package causes the tab to go into a boot loop. if i just install the cm10 rom again then the loop stops but still left with no gapps :(
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] cdesai:
Bootloader > recovery loop or something else?

Download mode - flash the boot.img from the zip via heimdall

Reboot to recovery - reflash rom

Sent from my GT-P1000
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] TheATHEiST:
No you havent "bricked" your tab. If you can boot into recover/download mode to re-flash its not "bricked".

People are using this term far too loosely now, its kind of irritating.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] nemory:
Thanks cdesai.

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maybe a term "soft bricked" will do?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] adi6262:
To bootloopers ,

Give safe mode a shot :D
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Monfro:
To overclock CPU and set governors we have only to choose among a lot of programs.. but someone can suggest me an app to overclock GPU?

Thank you
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] TheATHEiST:
No it wont because there is no such thing as a "soft brick". Your device is either "bricked" or it isnt.

When you have a boot loop or no rom/logo boots it simply means you ballsed something up or flashed wrong rom etc etc, It in no way means your device is "bricked" or "soft bricked".

A device is "bricked" when you cant power on device and/or boot into download mode or recovery, for example when you have corrupted your bootloader. If you can boot into recovery or download mode you can simply flash rom again and its in no way "bricked".
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Sir Otto:
I've been trying it for some minutes and I didn't notice any lag. Rotation is very fast, although buggy. Now I'll look at the battery life.

I have a problem: when I say something to Google Now's Voice Search, only shows me the Google results for that query, without answering to me or showing a tab.

+---------------------------------+

| BUG!! Wi-Fi router doesn't work. |

+---------------------------------+

Sent from my tablet using CyanogenMod 10 alpha
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] phlooke:
What a waste of time posting the rights and wrongs of the term bricked...most people know could infer what I was referring to.

But thanks for correcting me, I will try not to annoy you anymore.

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[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] TheATHEiST:
It wasn't a waste of time as I was correcting your misunderstanding/misinformation, If nobody points thsi out how are you/others going to learn?

Whether or not people could infer what you was referring to is besides the point, Its the referring to it as been bricked which was the point. When people like you call it bricked other newbies call it bricked then we have n00bs everywhere creating topics saying they have bricked their device when they have done nothing of the sort.

For example if you had installed a OS on your PC and it didnt have the correct drivers or version of OS you wouldnt call your PC "bricked" for the same reason you wouldnt call your tablet bricked, It just means you need to re-install correct version of system/drivers etc in correct way.

Anyway, no need to take it personally. :crying:
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] humberos:
P1L and P1N kernel

I've just built a kernel for P1L and P1N variants.

You can download it from here:

http://goo.im/devs/humberos/cm10/alpha/kernel

Ps. Replace boot.img into rom file.

Grettings from Brazil!
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] nemory:
you have google now, means you have successfully installed the GAPPS?