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[Galaxy S III Accessories] ericpd:
eah

Yeah,... I have to admit, the Aegis is pretty well made and the keys are much easier and friendly. Well at least on the SII. I think I mentioned before, IMO Otterbox was a complete and utter fail on the Evo 3D and Evo 4G. I ended up trashing them and going with my first Trident (Aegis) on the Evo 3D, and stuck with the Aegis when I brought the SII home. Unlike you, I just was feeling the styling of the Aegis when it came to the SIII,... just a little too busy and pushy. My taste for styling required something a little more industrial and symmetrical. But when I saw that Otterbox had fixed the main problem they had in the past, which was support on the tops and bottoms of their commuter line, I gave them a look-see. Other than the stiff and unfriendly button and rocker, the Otterbox is a Go! Now the button and rocker problem the Commuter has ain't present on the Defender. The Defender button and rocker is as friendly and responsive as the Trident Aegis. It's just that damned SIII Commuter case that got everybody enraged. About to send my $24.99 Commuter back to JR now that I've received my Defender from them. Then again, it'll depend on who's gonna pay the return shipping,... I'll find out tomorrow. Worst case, I'll Craigslist it!

But I do agree with you 100%, if you're looking for something in the Destroyer class and not the Battleship class, Aegis is the way to go! Hands down!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] werked:
I stopped in the at&t store today to have a look at the OB defender. I have to say they did a much better job with this case than my previous defender on my inspire. I mean I used the inspire defender but only because it was indestructible bc it was hella ugly lol. I tried the defender on my gs3 today. NICE!!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] tonu42:
An fyi, as a first timer to screen protectors. This otterbox defender one sucks hard. I get this ****ty rainbow affect that I hate on everyone elses phones. I'll probably end up removing it but just my 2 cents.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] GrabMyWrist:
Received the case today. It fits perfectly and the buttons are soft and work fine. I removed the internal screen protector and left the Zagg that I had already purchased in place.

:good:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] elosogrande7076:
To those who are removing the built in screen protector....isn't that taken away protection against breaking the screen? I ordered mine today but my thought is to protect the screen in case it drops (how I broke my Evo). If you are replacing the screen protector how much protection is a zagg going to give u? Instead of getting the otterbox, wouldn't u be better to get a regular case and a screen protector like zagg?

Not trying to down play anyone just trying to make sure I understand y so many people are doing it.

Thanks
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ericpd:
@tonu: Do you already have a Defender on a SIII? I'm kinda confused and can't tell whether you're seeking advice to aid in a buying decision or advice to aid in a maintenance decision. My SIII teamed with the current run of Defender case, brings no rainbow effects to the table,... at least not my table. I can offer this one observation,... if you don't clean the phone's screen and the inside surface of the protector really well, and I mean almost surgically clean, you'll get some artifacts that won't come off and if in the wrong spot, will drive you absolutely crazy. In e my rush to get the Defender on for the first time, I skipped that step and there were a couple of finger prints and smudges shared between the phone screen and the inside of the screen protector. No amount of rubbing could get them out of my eyes way. The only solution was to pull the case, squeaky clean the phone's screen and the inside of the Otterbox screen and pay special attention not to touch either of them when putting things back ts ogether. Rainbowing usually occurs when there's a collision between moisture and light. But it's possible the screen itself could be causing the effect. I'd try a disassemble, clean and reassemble for ripping the protector off. And if that doesn't work, I'd give Otterbox a call and let them know your protector is clouding up. They have pretty much a life time warranty and if your claim is reasonable to them, they'll shoot you either a new case or front end right out in the mail. There customer support is top notch. But as many have already said,... removing the protector ain't that big of a project as long as you're careful and patient about it.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mrtoolate1031:
hmmm

just ordered one... but they dont even have an actual date when it will be available... 30 bucks... for a nice case tho.... i did two day shipping so hopfully not too long:cowboy:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] tonu42:
I get the micro rainbow pixel affect. On a white background it looks as if I can see all the subpixels. Its hideous and makes whites completely garbage. I tried the baby powder trick, wiped the front down well, wiped the phone. Looks like (*@&# I will take a picture to show you what I mean.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] scitech09:
What you are seeing is the grainy effect of a matte screen protector. This is just a down side to matte screen protectors. The advantages are reduced glare and increased fingerprint resistance. Of course, the screen does still get fingerprints, but they aren't as reflective and are more easily removed. I would suggest trying it out for a few days before you decide to remove it. It may just grow on you. One of the major disadvantages of removing the screen protector is that dust will more easily get into the OtterBox case. But it is easy enough to remove the case and clean it if you decide to remove the screen protector.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] GrabMyWrist:
The built in screen protector is nothing more than a flimsy piece of plastic. IMO, it doesn't offer any protection against breaking at all. I've owned many phones over the years and haven't ever broken a single screen. At least with the ZAGG I know what the limits are and what it's capable of.

I purchased the case to protect the overall phone and for the holster.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Damitu:
I sure wish they would ship already. I ordered mine on the 22nd of July.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mrtoolate1031:
Just canceled my order from j & b .amazon.com has them in stock for Just about the same price if not cheaper... already ordered, 2 day shipping will arrive august 2nd
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ericpd:
Yep,... that's all it is, a piece of clear plastic. But I wouldn't say it brings NO protection to the table. That's kinda crazy! At the very least, it brings as much as a piece of film glued to the screen does. I think the greater mission of screen protectors is to protect against dings and scratches, not against the blunt forces necessary to actually break the glass. That's the job of the case more so than the screen protector. Remember, you don't have to have an object actually hit the screen for the screen to break. I remember reading somewhere that most screens break as a result of shock and torque twist rather than direct impact. Zaggs and products like them offer no more protection against breakage than does the film used in the manufacture of automotive windshields. That said, the built in screen protector on the Defender does offer more protection than stand alone stick-on models,... hands down. We don't need to convene Congress to figure that out. I think people remove them mainly because they feel the improved protection comes at a cost,... screen sensitivity and screen visibility.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ericpd:
Good look toolate! Don't drop your p&j between now and the 2nd! LOL!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mrtoolate1031:
Won't drop the p&j... hopefully get a b&j from now and I until the 2nd lmao
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ericpd:
LOL! I did that with my original Evo,... brought it home from the Sprint store on a Saturday, dropped it on a Tuesday and the UPS guys shows up at my door with my Sedio case on a Wednesday. So I covered up my wounded p&j [pride & joy]. Reminds me of those kids you see putting bras on the front of their cars AFTER they run into the back of somebody. LOL!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mrtoolate1031:
Not to take away anything fRom the original post but they are sold out. If interested here's the proof..
[Galaxy S III Accessories] jdpdata:
Pre-Order mine on July 16th, still haven't ship yet. Damn you Otter!!!:mad:

I got two - Black and Glacier, maybe they're still waiting for Glacier to arrive to ship both at the same time.:confused:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] GrabMyWrist:
I don't believe I said it offered no protection at all. I specifically addressed elosogrande7076's concern over breaking the screen. I prefer ZAGG only because of their ability to prevent damage to the screen from everyday use. That and they offer a lifetime warranty on their product. To each his own...

:silly:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] elosogrande7076:
Thanks for the info....i guess that is my biggest reason for getting it was to help protect the screen. I nothing is going to protect it 100% but i thought the case w/ protector would be better then my current case (siedio platinum case) and a Zagg HD shield.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] GrabMyWrist:
This is the first Otterbox I've ever purchased. The only reason I went with the Defender over the Commuter was for the holster. I almost purchased a Seidio as I've had great results with them in the past. The price was really the deciding factor for me. Otterbox is bulkier than Seidio IMO but seems to be much more durable. I'll be interested to see what it looks like a year from now.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ericpd:
Yes you did! You wrote

My point was that none of them are designed to protect against breakage as their main mission. None of them! So calling the Defender's protector out as if it wasn't up to the task was kinda misleading. Especially since it was never given that task. It's task is to protect against dings, scratches, and low to medium knocks and bruises that usually result in glass chipping. No screen protector, Zagg or otherwise, is capable of standing up to the forces required to actually break these screens. Especially now with the wider use of Gorilla 1 & 2 glass out on the streets now. You gotta go to a whole different class of enclosures and boxes to get anywhere near that kinda protection at the screen and still be able to see and operate the phone. And most of those cars are designed for storage more than operation.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ericpd:
Yeah, Seidio cases are pretty good, I had good luck with the one I had also. Surprisingly, my S3 dressed in a Defender is thinner than my co-worker's iPhone in a commuter. Weird! I think I saw on eBay or Amazon, can't remember where there were some holsters being advertised as being able to fit our phones fitted with Commuters,... both verticals and horizontals. They looked ok to pretty good, but nothing to write home about. Trust me, in about a week, you'll every sensation of your case being bulky and it'll start to feel normal and comfortable before you know it.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] werked:
Someone on this thread (? Or maybe another thread in this forum can't remember) said that the seidio active holster fits the commuter nicely. It can be ordered on fleabay, amazon and a couple other sites I saw today for about 20-25 bucks. BUT 25 dollar holster and a 20 dollar commuter is still more that you'd pay for the defender. Just thought I'd mention that combo in case someone missed it.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] GrabMyWrist:
Perhaps you should read the whole conversation again. I addressed the concern that he had over removing the screen protector. I simply stated that the included screen protector served no purpose with regards to breaking a screen. In other words, the screen could still be broken using the original screen protector.

At no point did I say ZAGG would prevent the screen from breaking. I said that I prefer the ZAGG over the original screen protector because it offers much more protection IMO.

:D
[Galaxy S III Accessories] jmhpwdr:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1780383

... regarding the Commuter with the Seidio Active holster...
[Galaxy S III Accessories] coogrrr94:
Received an email confirmation today from J&R, my glacier white defender shipped today.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mrtoolate1031:
Proof? Still says on pre-order on site
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Damitu:
I also received confirmation that my order has shipped.

It was ordered on 7/22 so, 9 day wait to ship isn't bad.

Now for the wait to arrive. Funny, J&R gave me a USPS

tracking order and Google Wallet gave me a UPS one.

UPS works USPS does not.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] jdpdata:
WTF, people order after me getting their shipped-i ordered 7/16 still back ordered. Curse you JR!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mikec86:
I feel ya, I ordered 7/14. I guess the #$#* glacier white case is holding my black case hostage.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] elosogrande7076:
I also received a shipping notification today from J&R for the black defender. I ordered my Monday. I wasnt sure if it was going to ship soon so I jumped on the Amazon order that someone posted a few pages back. I guess I will see which one gets here first
[Galaxy S III Accessories] tonu42:
Just an fyi guys, I preordered late cause I had to cancel 3 times, but I've had mine now for 2 days now.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] BayuDroidz:
Got my Otterbox yesterday @ 60US (conversion from Malaysia rate).

Been using O.B since Note.

It serves it purposes very well. Really love this case.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ericpd:
How you like it Tuno?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] coogrrr94:
Edit to my original post. Since you asked for proof, I was going to copy and paste the email into this thread. Lo and behold when I took a closer look at it, it said Otterbox Commuter - Glacier. What????? I emailed customer service about it. So for those of you who ordered the Glacier Defender no need to jump off the bridge just yet looks like they're still on back order.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] haza12d:
I got an email a week ago saying that it was back-ordered, a day after that I got an email that it was shipped, and today... well, I got it in the mail. Loving this case! :victory:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] bjtheone:
Mine claimed to have shipped on the 26... seems to be taking the long way too the frozen north
[Galaxy S III Accessories] tonu42:
So far I like the case, NFC works through it which is awesome. But the screen protector is mehhhh
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Dragonis2345:
i just got an otter box commuter great case for s3
[Galaxy S III Accessories] secondskin:
Deleted.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ericpd:
Yeah the Commuter is a great case, but with some issues. The two that chased me away from it were how stiff the volume rocker and power button were. Very unresponsive and hard to push. And the other was the that the physical home button at the bottom was hard to get at because the lip of the case was so close to it. They could have designed that area like Trident did with their Aegis where the arch at the bottom of the case sorta detoured out of the home buttons way just enough for you to comfortably work the home button with your thumb. Other than those two issues, the case is solid. Great protection, slim profile, and a pretty nice screen protector included.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] karimsaud21:
How does the Aegis compare to the commuter and defender? Does it offer similar levels of protection?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Darkchaser:
Where in Malaysia did you get the Defender? A lot of online sellers are still on order....
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mikec86:
If you ordered another color defender along with the black one your order will not ship until all cases have arrived. I called JR.com and requested they send the black one now and the glacier white later. I need my case!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] jdpdata:
That's me.got one black, one glacier. I'll call them tomorrow. Did they charge you separate shipping?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mikec86:
Shipping was free
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ericpd:
The Defender offers much more protect than either the Aegis or Commuter. A little more bulk than both, but not as much bulk as all the stories tell.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Cube151:
The Otterbox defender is possibly the best case on the market, I throw my phone around my store multiple times a day with no breaks to either the case or the phone.

Spoke with my stores Otterbox rep the other day and she did not have a date on the colored versions of the defender yet.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] evsnova74:
Can anyone who has one of these Defender holsters tell me how thick of belt it will accommodate? My gun belt is like 5/16" thick, I'd really like to get this thing out of my pocket...
[Galaxy S III Accessories] .Bambino:
I wish I knew this because my defender was 50$. Also I was wondering if someone knew of a big enough leather belt case that a otter box could fit into. I don't like the clip that came with it.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Novarider:
Leather holster that fits defender

www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=s3+defender+leather+&_sacat=0
[Galaxy S III Accessories] .Bambino:
Your the best LOL!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] htcsnap93:
Where can i order the otterbox commuter glacier? I live in holland.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] iorecki:
i pre-ordered this case a couple of days ago....

called this morning and said they still havent received shipment from otterbox.

so i ended up cancelling my order and ordering from smartphoneapedia.com... and my order is now on its way. :laugh:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] nojak:
My Glacier still isn't in on J&R, but I found one that's in stock for $35.

http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=30319
[Galaxy S III Accessories] slickdaddy96:
I think I am going to wait it out with J&R. I waited this long, surely they will get them in stock in the next few days to a week. Looks like Otterbox is shipping them to retailers. I think J&R got the black one about 3-5 days after amazon and others got them in stock, so hopefully that is true for the colored ones also. The next price with the Atomic or Boom colors in stock is $45+ shipping, so I will wait it out.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] 02lssport:
newegg has them cheap too

in stock

cant post url because i havent made enough post but search black otterbox defender galaxy s3

should be the second option 30.95 before shipping
[Galaxy S III Accessories] slickdaddy96:
I'm not getting the black one. I am getting Atomic(blue/green) and Boom(pink/purple) looking one.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] 02lssport:
sorry man thought id let you know
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Damitu:
It arrived.

So, I ordered mine on 7/22 and it shipped on 7/31 and arrived today 8/7.

I got the classic black one.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] slickdaddy96:
I called J&R since there are a lot of online companies either through Amazon or on their own website that have all colors in stock now. The guy that answered had no clue when they would be in. Said that it might be another 2 weeks. I mentioned that a lot of online retailers already have them confirmed in stock, and he just said yea, well we might get them sooner. I am on the fence on canceling my pre-order now. I would pay $5-10 more per case to get it now and protect my phone versus waiting another 2 weeks or more.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Blaze03:
I canceled my order from J&R Monday because I ordered the glacier defender from smartphonepedia when they had the sale and I just received the case and it's actually pretty good and has a good feel all around!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
[Galaxy S III Accessories] slickdaddy96:
I just checked my order status again in J&R and they now say shipped with a tracking number. So obviously phone support has no clue.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mikec86:
Yeah my glacier white shipped today.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Blkegk:
Same here, just got the email.

Pretty stoked.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] danman132x:
Hoping my atomic case ships from them soon.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] criffaaa1:
My atomic shipped today. And got my glacier one today from smartphonepedia.

All hells yeah!

sent from my Crifftastic $3
[Galaxy S III Accessories] slickdaddy96:
Got my two from J&R today.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] popdog54:
For anyone who bought the defender, can you remove the phone from the holster with one hand? And if so, can you remove it easily? From the pics and vids I've seen it looks like it takes two hands. When I'm at work I usually have one hand occupied. I would like to be able to answer my phone without stopping what I am doing.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mikec86:
Yes one hand is all you need.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ironhelix:
Order Date:

August 09, 2012

For a "reflection" colored...

Was such a great deal, i don't mind waiting....

Big thanks to OP
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mikec86:
I think this is one of the best otterboxes that I've owned. I even left the screen protector on.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Blkegk:
I took my screen protector off within 2 minutes of having it on. I can't stand screen protectors that degrade the screen's clarity.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mikec86:
Yeah that's how I felt about my gnex otterbox screen protector but this one is a lot better. Maybe my eyes are going south. :D
[Galaxy S III Accessories] YANG-KAF:
Dust under Otterbox screen protector scratching phones display glass

My first post, just in a different thread, the last one had only a few posts. Please bear with me.

Hey everyone. I noticed on many threads that people recommend Otterbox defenders to anyone who works in a high dust environment. But as i have read in many places ( and this is the only thing stopping me from buying an Otterbox defender for my s3 ) is people who say dust gets under the screen protector as i assume it would through the holes over the front facing camera and proximity sensor, and then scratches the screen..

quick googled sources for reference about the scratches:

i cant post links yet but here is what they say:

08/07/2012, 13:51

"The built in screen protectors on the Otterbox Defender scratches and pits your screen if you get dust in your case. EVERYONE I know that has a Defender case has had this happen."

– Steven

i reckon this is where i'll find people with the most Otterbox experience. Any suggestions?

wouldn't a water/dustproof case like the upcoming Lifeproof for s3 or the Seidio Obex be a better bet for high dust environments?

I really am sorry for the long post.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Toyotech353:
I remove the phone from the case once a week to clean and never had on scratch or pit. Love this case.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] YANG-KAF:
Thanks a lot

Hit the thanks already too
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thatotherguy..:
so I've been looking for awhile and can't find anything

is there a way to unlock the DI2 for free?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jpradley:
Yes, certainly.

Visit the Development subForum of this Forum and start going through the Sticky threads.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thatotherguy..:
I mean like sim unlock?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thatotherguy..:
Bump
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
Search much?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1404997

-CM7 on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] phonetool:
Hmm.. You *did* say "free".

I haven't tried the HTC route yet. Is it *not* free?

-CM7 on DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
If you're on Verizon and have good payment history then yes. Just call them and say you want to use it out of the country while travelling. If you aren't then there are dozens of sites that I have seen which claim to give you the unlock code for free. My guess is they probably clone your ESN as they all seem shady.

Unlock codes are pretty cheap from reliable sources. I say just pay the $5-10 and get one from somewhere with good reviews.

Sent from my ICS Dinc2
[Galaxy S III Accessories] eheaps:
Hey so I'm looking for a car dock that has a flexible snake-like neck that mounts right into the cigarette lighter port for charging. I've searched through here and on the web but haven't found exactly what I'm looking for. Any input would be really helpful!