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[HTC One X] XxKU134xX:
Flashing from nvflash is not the people. Getting in to it and acquiring the HTC security key is.
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Every single one here appreciates all of the effort anyone here brings into the light of the day, really!! Unfortunately, its not gonna lead us to somewhere. We HAVE to get in touch with the "Giants" of mobile hacking. Otherwise, we'll walk only in circles :(
[HTC One X] matt95:
let's call geohot :D
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
:D Don't know if he's even interested in HTC or Android Devices. Other than that, he surely has a lot to do e.g. Lawsuits with Sony and Apple^^ . AAAND, the PS3 is already hacked for the rest of it's short life. But that would mean, he's got more time for other things....Sorry for OT.

---------:update-17. Nov.----------

Talked with the dirtyracun team...as always; never ask for eta they said :D
[HTC One X] Danzano:
Hopefully no eta means some progress :D

Sent from an ice cold One X Blacked out!
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Don't think so. They were talking very strange. I constantly had the feeling of talking to a bot. Lets hope the best and search for other ways.

Gesendet von meinem HTC One X mit Tapatalk 2
[HTC One X] muid02:
How can HTC provide s-off. S-off for hox is a hardware thing right? We have to send devices?
[HTC One X] Vcek:
No I'm pretty sure that HTC can make it possible to S-OFF our devices the same way we unlocked it. (of course they would have to add this feature to the bootloader), anyways i don't think that they want this because of warranty issues. (I would still s-off my hox if it TOTALLY voids every part of my warranty)

Sent from my EndeavorU
[HTC One X] artymarty:
S-off may void warranty, unlocking bootloader does not. Not if your prepaid to take it through the legal system...

Sent with two tin cans and a bit of string.
[HTC One X] MemAllocatoR:
guys check this:

https://github.com/saidelike/android-work/blob/master/hboot_sign/

can this help in any way?

and this:

http://esec-lab.sogeti.com/post/HTC-unlock-internals
[HTC One X] KrisPerry:
What is it?
[HTC One X] TheBrilliantMistake:
Not quite true.

Much depends on where in the world you live and the appropriate legislation.

Much depends on HTC's ability to prove damage occurred via flashing a custom ROM (which CAN happen, albeit rarely).

HTC can simply refuse to honour your warranty, and then it's up to you to take it to the courts. That can be a daunting, and troublesome process for some, and during the meantime, you're left without a working a device.

HTC are deliberately evasive in their explanation of what 'MAY' void your warranty. In unlocking the bootloader you agree that it 'MAY' void the warranty - then it can turn into a battle of who determines when it's void or not?.

It's a pain in the ass for XDA members but you really wouldn't believe how many people return their phones due to reflashing their phones incorrectly, and it places a huge financial burden on the Operator and/or the Manufacturer - depending where the user hands back their handset, and how quickly their claim is rejected.
[HTC One X] Vcek:
The 1st link is kinda useful .... for a person who knows how to use it(not me). Maybe it can be used to sign us a custom hboot which works as S-OFF.
[HTC One X] TheBrilliantMistake:
No Use.

It's to verify the unlock key for the bootloader.

You're given a public key which will unlock the bootloader, and this code verifies the key. This isn't the same as S-Off.

For S-Off, you'd need the private key HTC use to sign their RUUs (complete ROMS). With that key you could create any ROM you liked, BUT you won't be able to obtain that key, and it would take billions of hours to calculate it (for all intents and purposes, not possible).

The only other way to get S-Off is using the diag file that XMOO refers too, AND obtain / mimic the verification 'dongle' (Java Card)
[HTC One X] Vcek:
If you read the HTC license you will be surprised that using 90% of custom ROMS render you an unlicensed user.

Any ways unlocking the bootloader can void your warranty in rare cases (especially for the S-ON OneX), I tried intentionally bricking my device in many soft-ways and so far had no success. (Unplugging the usb/force shutdown and many other methods while the phone is flashing firmware :/ ). It seems that the built-in battery + S-ON is the key for an unbrickable and secure device, and it also seems that any damage that is caused by tampering with partitions or any system files is totally reversible by a simple flash.

(I praise HTC for making such measurements)
[HTC One X] BenPope:
A warranty has very little legal standing.

Your contract is with the retailer, not HTC, and you would have to lean on consumer protection laws.
[HTC One X] artymarty:
I will admit that in Australia where I live, people are very well protected by consumer laws.

You will find that twitter, Facebook, the risk of bad publicity and a strong impression that you are going to take things further solve issues 90% of the time. ;)

The unlocking disclaimer saying it 'may' invalidate warranty IF it is found it caused the fault, combined with the fact that you are refused warranty instantly on the mention of unlocking the phone before it has been inspected or even sighted to see if the unlocking caused the fault is proof that it's an excuse to avoid warranty. That fact will go well in your favour.

The other fact is that the warranty clearly states in one section that it warrants only the hardware and not the software, so again you have good grounds to get hardware faults fixed irrespective of software running on the device.

Anyway this is getting OT.

I'll end by saying you just need to show that you have good arguments and the cost (money stress, or etc) of trying to send you away will be bigger than fixing the phone.

:D

Whoever said the small can't make the big move never spent the night in a bedroom with a mosquito...

Sent with two tin cans and a bit of string.
[HTC One X] TheBrilliantMistake:
The damage is usually caused by overvoltage / overclocking / excessive heat / speaker damage etc.

But even silly soft bricks end up back in repair centers and someone ends up paying the cost of that. Even if you get your phone back without any fix, it's taken up the time of guy in the store, a courier to the repair hub, a quick diagnosis, report writing, and courier back to the store.... which either ends up being paid by the retailer / operator, or by the manufacturer (depending on the contract they have between them).

All of this of course is a trade off... i.e. The cost of dealing with custom ROM issues vs how many sales are affected by not being able to use custom ROMs.

All in all, as Android devices become less 'nerdy', we 'nerdy' types are less important to HTC. They're going for the mass consumer market, and ditching us. I think it's a mistake, but we are still a relatively small percentage of the market.

Regardless, I won't be buying HTC again, and I've been a pretty loyal support of theirs for the last 7 years or so, with about 7 or 8 devices from them.

I'll be a reluctant LG or Samsung buyer wishing Nokia would get back into gear and produce a top class Android device.
[HTC One X] Sentinel196:
What's this got to do with getting a diag file for S-OFF?
[HTC One X] afried:
i want to know too……
[HTC One X] *elmo*:
So silent in thread since November....

Sent from HOX with ARHD 17.x
[HTC One X] Vcek:
I wish you are right, but I hope that work is fruitful.

Sent from my EndeavorU
[HTC One X] arknailed7754:
It will happen just not till HTC allow it to I think. What someone needs to do is find there repair centre and blag it somehow to get the info...I might do lol
[HTC One X] Vcek:
Yes, I believe 1 year after the release date, HTC will ease on S-OFF as warranties will start ending. (they will profit from repairing bricked S-OFF devices without a warranty)

Sent from my EndeavorU
[HTC One X] audioslim:
In legal terms may = will.
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
If the mobile handset industry didn't changed their mind about locked devices (moto, htc, lg etc.) by a mysterious reason, I personally wouldn't count on HTC to ease s-off for us. I'm not very experienced with HTC devices or HTC politics, maybe some of you can enlighten me, but back in my days in the moto forums...it was a hell of a torture and even today, devices older than 2 years aren't allowed to be unlocked neither signing keys for signing files were released.
[HTC One X] arses:
I wonder nothing happened!

I bought HOX because I thought it will be the second HD2.

But I'm sure the experts will do it.
[HTC One X] DJW6927:
Amazing how many times you hear this..and how right you are. But there'll never be another HD2 - you literally had all the choices in the world of phones.

Now I can't even be bothered to even unlock my hox.. there's just not enough benefit for the hassle..just not so much different between jb and ics or stock and custom in comparison.

Still waiting for full s-off before I bother I think. Even if that means never (and then never again HTC).
[HTC One X] lilvfr400boy:
I will have rid of the one x way way before soff is general use, I'll not be with HTC anymore after 8 previous HTC phones. Seems Samsung just have the idea rite about root not voiding warranty
[HTC One X] Goku80:
just to add here that i love my One X...S-off or not i still love this beauty..but never ever again i will be getting a HTC phone...Nothing but problems and this delay of s-off from HTC or from the devs here just left a bitter taste in my mouth....good phone but poor on updates and i thought the exact thing that this would of been the new HD2 but how wrong was i
[HTC One X] Sentinel196:
Whats this got to do with "Obtaining HTC One X Diag File to Manage S-OFF"?
[HTC One X] Goku80:
this thread is dead anyway....if no one has managed to get one by now they will not from now on..so might as well just let this thread be as it is
[HTC One X] DJW6927:
At the risk of sounding negative this is true - it ain't happening for the hox, at least not by this method.. I think the threads point was a request for the diag file (and java card or some other means of flashing the diag file).

Neither's happened and nothing outside of the OP post has moved that objective any further forward despite being well intentioned. It all seems pointless. I normally don't like seeing too many negative or *****in comments round here so I'm loathed to say so... but you gotta be realistic too you know?
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Oh dear, I guess we've reached a point were we can only hope for a miracle :D
[HTC One X] muid02:
Guys. Isnt there any tini tiny way that wr can boot jb sense by changing the cid. Any way? I am dying to use it. I now feel that my phone is worthless. :( 100% frustrated.
[HTC One X] Vcek:
Changing the CID is not possible so far(s-on) , if you change it with S-OFF then you can update your hboot and upgrade to JB sense. (downgrading is possible with s-OFF too)

Sent telepathically from my brain.
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
As clarified DECADES before, we can't change the Cid until we can s-off. Please stop asking the same questions over and over again...
[HTC One X] muid02:
If we have the source code for kernel v3 then can we run jb with any v3 custom kernel with hboot 0.95? Is the v3 kernel preventing us to run jb? Trips v3 kernel can run jb with no sound. Maybe the source code will sove the problem???
[HTC One X] BenPope:
Yeah, JB kernel source is likely to help, looks like HTC added some stuff to hboot, whatever that stuff is needs to be bridged between new kernel and older hboot. We won't know what that stuff is, but we can make a good guess.
[HTC One X] DJW6927:
Ok this is way off topic but as discussed the topics a deadun anyway really... and its probably time this thread was put to sleep as it's objective is clearly impossible being dependent on java cards.

S-off ain't just about running jb or whatever, and that'll be fixed most probably by most carriers in a week or 2 in any case.

For me its still about the principle of doing what I want with a device that I own..and if I wanted to be treated like c&%t then I'd buy Apple. Not gaining s-off while a device is still flagship just makes ownership not worthwhile. So whatever happens now it's too late.

It's a shame as owning a hox should've been wicked fun.
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
This device is no longer HTC's flagship device. That is now the One X+. Also the kernel source code trumps everything. It's what empowers our development.
[HTC One X] DJW6927:
Don't get your point buddy.. thought thats what I said. I said I think we wanted s-off while it was still flagship and now it's too late.
[HTC One X] Goku80:
looks like s-off has already been done for the HTC DNA Butterfly whatever that phone is called
[HTC One X] Nitin985:
I heard it is a lot easier for Qualcomm devices
[HTC One X] atrako1973:
From HTC ?no never ,from devs who already have soff ?no never ,from a dev who will achieve soff and share it here in the community ?yes , but not anytime soon so......... Lock the thread and wait. besides diag file is not enough to achieve soff
[HTC One X] DrugsBunny:
Not true xmoo got it and didn't share lol
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
He never got a software solution to be fair to him. Either way, doesn't matter. He's moved on and got a new phone.
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Am I correct when I say we have a lack of devs who work on S-Off? If it isn't true then, please; whoever you are, you and your genius mind, share your knowledge with us. Tell us how deep you're in the process and you may have a shower of donations. But the most important benefit for you; you'd be a f**king LEGEND! I mean a real f**king LEGEND! Never as legendary as Chuck Norris, but at least almost that much legendary....nevermind...

Otherwise...I feel the urge to report something...something pointless.
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
The One X never had a huge development community to start with. Everyone assumed it would pick up but it never did. The Tegra 3 was simply considered too foreign rather than an exciting new challenge and the S-Off/bootloader situation makes it a PITA to develop for. The final nail in the coffin was the outrageous pricing of the Nexus 4 which stole a bunch of developers that were here and stole all of the developers that would've come here as part of their contact renewals.
[HTC One X] Vcek:
On the S-OFF topic, is it possible to have a 11111111 CID on a S-ON ? (S-OFF, supercid, then S-ON again)
[HTC One X] jonas2295:
Not possible
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
why you would s-off set other cid and then s-on again? O.o :D
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
It's perfectly possible.
[HTC One X] usaff22:
Why doesn't this phone have SuperCID with an unlocked bl? You can with the One S...
[HTC One X] BenPope:
It's a different phone.
[HTC One X] DrugsBunny:
To be fair he never tried after getting s off
[HTC One X] Goku80:
He he well I finally got my s-off;)
[HTC One X] muid02:
How? Im dying for it man
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Nice one, haha.... It's a joke, isn't it? Let me guess, you've bought a device that has already been s-offed.
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
Don't be in such a rush, none of the ASOP based ROMs are in fully working order at the moment anyway.
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
I think he's referring to Goku80's last post :D
[HTC One X] Goku80:
Nope. I got inside contacts. I have found the knowledge. Mwahahaha
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
You did sent your phone to 4pda's local shop in Russia. They do it the official way with a Java card and the clean S58 Data program. If you didn't this way, would you share with us that quantum of info? Or would "someone loose his job" if you'd share?...
[HTC One X] Goku80:
I'm trolling buddy. :D seriously if I knew how to or if there was a way I would be sharing.
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Damnit -.- but at least I laughed really hard :D
[HTC One X] jonas2295:
thats what he is known for :D
[HTC One X] galaxys2Tav:
Goku you T@#? I got my hopes up then :(

Sent from my ncx - ics renovated hox
[HTC One X] Goku80:
:D a good helpful troll. :D
[HTC One X] arknailed7754:
I really hope we get s off soon wahhh wahh...ooo wait...wahh

Btw goku your a mean man lol
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Actually this is the best troll ever

No seriously, we should get back to topic, shouldn't we? :D
[HTC One X] arknailed7754:
Not really its not coming anytime soon. I reckon we could do 59 more pages of trolling more then someone might be getting somewhere
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
Thats not very nice is it now!? :eek:
[HTC One X] galaxys2Tav:
I don't mean it in a bad way, I was just having a joke as I got my hopes up :/

Sent from my ncx - ics renovated hox
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
I know! consider your self trolled he he! :)
[HTC One X] galaxys2Tav:
Oh I did lmao. I have the H3G cid so it's frustrating that we haven't found a way to obtain s-off

Sent from my ncx - ics renovated hox
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
Luckily I have an unbranded handset but i feel sorry for the people who have got to put up with this carrier branded bullsh#t!!!! I will always go to phones4u as they seem to chuck out unbranded handsets!!! Really hope s-off comes at some point!!!!
[HTC One X] galaxys2Tav:
I know usually I go to cpw as I don't get on with p4u in my area (long story) hopefully someone will crack s-off soon and we can all reep the benefits

Sent from my ncx - ics renovated hox
[HTC One X] DJW6927:
We need an Alpharev/unrevoked miracle.

But damn.. gettin a phone with an oddball chipset was a mistake. I ain't doing that again.
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Atm this is still the only method to get S-Off. Did someone already tried this?

PDA-Centre's S-Off for New HTC Models
[HTC One X] galaxys2Tav:
This is where you have to ship it to them and they charge 2500r so it's having to ship the device to someone. I think it's about time htc should help us with getting s-off

Sent from my ncx - ics renovated hox
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
Agreed mate but i think we have more chance of sprouting Pat Butcher out of our backsides :(
[HTC One X] DJW6927:
Ha...I'd sooner to give it to Pat Butcher to take back up my backside with her as post it to Russia. Either the way it'll be the last I'd probably see of my phone.
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
LOL!!!!
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Why are you so suspicious of them? Football confirmed the credibility of this company. He tweeted about this.
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
I was just on about HTC giving us S-Off lol!!!
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
I wrote TWRP an email if HTCDumlock would work on the One X. This is what they said:

the Tegra 3 One X can't be made to work with Dumlock. The device won't let us flash the boot partition (kernel) when booted up normally either. Most other HTC devices allow you to flash a kernel while booted to Android and it's that principle that Dumlock uses to work around the inability to flash a kernel from recovery.rnrn
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
Isn't that down to not knowing the location of the partition?
[HTC One X] MarylandCookie:
Maybe someone on the Nexus 7 forums will figure out APX Mode on that as that has T3 with pogo pins too.. (*hoping*)
[HTC One X] Vcek:
If we manage to get into APX safely, is there anything useful that has been tried?

Because I can sense APX mode getting closer.

Sent telepathically from my brain.
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
How did you entered APX mode?

Xmoo already entered APX mode without having any benefits of it.

Another thing. The guys from LG 4x forums managed to get 2nd init working. This device has almost the same hardware as the HOX except from the changeable battery and microSD slot. Go ahead and please have a look. They've managed to flash kernel via recovery!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1958387
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
Reading that, they're nowhere really.
[HTC One X] DJW6927:
Has it actually ever happened before that the XDA community has failed to find a way fully unlock (s-off or hspl equivalent) a HTC device?

Are we the first unfortunate victims of HTC attempts to emulate Apple?
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
Don't think they were able to find an s-off solution by way of software solution for all Wildfire s devices
[HTC One X] DJW6927:
Honestly FML to go get the first device to really defeat XDA. Really want to vent a case of the tourettes but XDA really ain't the place.....

Do they allow foul and abusive language in the off topic thread then?
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
Lol i wouldn't mate, its a cheerful thread and there hasn't been a report on it yet.

The mods have said that they aren't supporting threads like that and will close it at the slightest bit of trouble. You risk inducing the ire of the people who enjoy chilling out there.

I understand your frustration but take it up with HTC :)
[HTC One X] DJW6927:
I jest. Really. It belongs no where here.

Its a worrying development for the whole community though if HTC can add this level of security to all their devices though (though they're still failing for qualcom devices it seems). Surely the longer this goes on the more of a matter of principle it should become to break the darn thing though.
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
Thanks bud :) the off topic trolls thread is ironically one of the friendliest threads on this forum!!!

Its a right royal pain in the gonads that they have to do this and will probs end up hurting them in the long run. Although it has taught me a sh#te load about command prompts etc!!!! :D
[HTC One X] DJW6927:
Goin quiet now... blood pressure rising as I think about not being allowed to do what I want with a device that I own.
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
lol!!!!!
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Does someone know why none of the great developers give a damn about the HOX? I mean except of Rom devs, they're still doing a great job ;)
[HTC One X] arknailed7754:
Who would be great developers?
[HTC One X] FordSierra88:
Very SAD :eek:
[HTC One X] wschm123:
Do not worry about money

I will try every means to get ~

And then PM you

Release attachments or replies
[HTC One X] miniterror:
So you need to donate, well donate 5 euros^^

Should be enough i geuss or is there a minimum ammount you need to donate.

Im wiling to transfer the 5 euro to donate so we can get those files.

But i cant read a thing of that site and using a translator messes text up big time so i still dont understand it, asked my gf if she could make sense of the translation but she had to laugh real hard at the teanslation as its a verry funny outcome of words:p
[HTC One X] wschm123:
Also to say that

DIAG looks like in China useful this software only with xtc

With the s-off DIAG.zip to use this instrument in xtc

Everything so I got the DIAG say

I try to get it
[HTC One X] HebeGuess:
Actually the minimum donation amount wasn't expensive..

Thanks wschm123 in advance..
[HTC One X] xmoo:
Just a heads up guys, the DIAG file on the chinese website is not the clean s58.
[HTC One X] fstluxe:
Thanks for saying, but are you 100% sure about that? and how are you so sure about that, did you tried that file?
[HTC One X] xmoo:
I did not dl it. But compared it to the 5 DIAGs I know ;)
[HTC One X] fuinhu:
there are 5 diag files for the OX?
[HTC One X] miniterror:
No offense mate but how how could you compare it of you havent downloaded it?

There all named the same, atleast thsts what you told me^^
[HTC One X] xmoo:
File size ;)
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
So ultimately this would be a hardware S-Off anyway? Not one for the masses?
[HTC One X] VIIRU§:
If the masses want S=OFF they better fire up Amazon.com and get the needed hardware...
[HTC One X] in_deed:
Hope to get the S-Off before HTC goes bankrupt.

Denying one of the basic tools required for a proper mod under one pretence or another, and cancelling warranty (probably to save a few bucks)... I say HTC had it coming.

Anyway, hope a solution is found soon. Just for the record, I'm also willing to donate. PM me if I can help in anyway.
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
HTC are far from going bust, they're still making 100 times what they were pre-Android. I'd like to blame cultural differences, but then others in the same region are far more open. I think they're probably making users jump through these hoops as part of a licensing deal.
[HTC One X] Electronic Punk:
I imagine we do, but is there a list of what hardware is needed?

Would be great if it also did the Sensation ;)