yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC One X] GuestK00371:
Well... I have to break their rules to do so, by making 3 accts, then open 2 meaningless thread which there'll be an attachment selling with 800 points. Eventually 1 acct will be able to get 2400 points and I'll be able to download it.

Sounds really insane, but that the only way to get the attachment ASAP.

Which page are you talking about? There's only a single page in the thread.
[HTC One X] fstluxe:
what is a accts
[HTC One X] GuestK00371:
Accounts.

And a update, It's impossible to get the attachment now, as the admin of the forum set the limit that all attachments needs 2000 points to download, and that I can't sell attachments due to my member status.
[HTC One X] wschm123:
hi i am an chinese 2000 points need 2 yuan

Equal to about $ 0.3

But at least 10 yuan recharge takes about $ 1.6

If you need this file

I want the way to seal the deal

But only need this file is useless

Also need a white card

Hoping to find a path to go s-off

As you can see, the Diag files are Leaked for almost every HTC device,
[HTC One X] miniterror:
oeps my bad,

i whas looking at this site: http://bbs.anzhi.com/thread-5208528-1-1.html

that one has a attachment on page 60.

all these chinese sites look the same to my dutch eyes:p
[HTC One X] g3rm3n:
Could you send a message to admin of forum to explain importance of file for us ?
[HTC One X] GuestK00371:
That's only a member showing that it needs permission to download the file, same as I experienced.
[HTC One X] FordSierra88:
Hello Guys,

I have registered at the forum to download the file. Unfortunately, it does not work or someone has another idea?

Sorry for my bad Englisch.
[HTC One X] HebeGuess:
Okay, I'm chinese. i registered on the forum.. It seems you need not only enough points to download the attachment, required special user groups. AND they way to get to 'downloadable' group should be through 'donate'. SAD
[HTC One X] fstluxe:
Dont worry about a white card, gold card I will take care of that.

You can.help us by getting the diag file. What do you need, ,1,6 dollar?

Pm me the diag file I will test it with my gold card.

And update you guys
[HTC One X] Drefsab:
They are not the kind of thing you will just find on ebay, they are factory service cards and such its very rare to see them outside of a HTC factory. Some Chinese shops have them (damned if I know where to buy them from though).

The XTC clip actually is based off the old cloned cards but they have changed things for the new generation which is why they don't work anymore.

A few times its been suggested people may be able to sell you the cards for £2000-£4000 though I don't know how legit this is. Personally I would suspect the most likely source would be china perhaps one of these shops that have the cards already and doing them may be willing to sell/part with theirs for a fee then people can see what they can do about cloning/sharing etc.
[HTC One X] arses:
Hi

Please give me a link which explain what Javacard is exactly.

Perhaps I could find it.

Thanks
[HTC One X] mickfitz:
http://m.alibaba.com/products/java_cards.html
[HTC One X] vincenzo697:
PJ46DIAG.zip

PJ46DIAG.zip file
[HTC One X] xmoo:
Not the correct one... Has been posted like 8162718 times.
[HTC One X] qball11:
Hi xmoo,

What about the file posted on page 18 of this post number 171 says PG58DIAG.rar?
[HTC One X] Bnsh2010:
i read the all post but i dont understand and now i have a request?

please explain what i should do for s-off?

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] qball11:
Hi mate,

we cant s-off in general yet, thats what this thread is people are looking into to it.
[HTC One X] Drefsab:
Its not something that's well documented online because its only supposed to be used in the factory or at authorized service centres.

It's nothing new this is how HTC have done things for a while you can see video's of it being done here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLFqGKzrtyg)

and the odd one will get sold on places like (http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f35/htc-mega-sim-sale-all-s-58-data-including-htc-desire-z-1121720/)

The XTC Clip basically is a clone of the old style Java/white card. We need something like that but for the new type of card. Some talented Dev's will need some long term access to one (Xmoo only had one for a short period of time and had to give it back).
[HTC One X] Drefsab:
Xmoo thanks for clarifying that I was under the impression the new java card was micro sim. It's still the major obstacle, most people seams to not realise how important these cards are to the S-Off process.
[HTC One X] Whiskey103:
Guys, thread cleaned... Please play nice ;)
[HTC One X] eFFeRaTuM:
it's a micro sd, not a sim...
[HTC One X] gulfu:
Going to s off..sleep off
[HTC One X] Arthas92:
does anyone here read this thread?

i'm not sure it work but he say it work on his phone

seem like that tool can resign zip file

if it true, we may flash custom boot.img too

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1971697
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
SO, we need something like this?

http://smartcard.futako.net/Index.aspx?p0=AAT1P0000014&p1=1&p2=1&p3=1&p4=0&p5=1

and:

http://www.gsm-technology.com/index.php/en_US,details,id_pr,8515,menu_mode,categories.html
[HTC One X] hccssn:
Yes, something like on the linked site, I thint, that the java card with contact informations, but it have to be signed by HTC.
[HTC One X] arses:
In 2nd link is that possible to use it for HOX s-off??
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
No it's not.

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C'mon!! No further ideas?! This thread's going to die :'(
[HTC One X] thecoby:
It's going to DIEEE!!!
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
I do feel like we're getting closer despite the lack of progression. HTC could do with the buzz injection and it would send development wild.
[HTC One X] peedub:
So I'm unsure of what we need exactly..

1) Someone to come up with an ingenious hack to modify CIDs (which would fix most people problems)

2) As above but for S-Off

Do we need hardware that can only come from HTC, or is is just software that's signed by HTC that we're after?
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
We do need everything you've mentioned; a genius, the hardware and HTC signed files/cards and maybe a unicorn ;)
[HTC One X] peedub:
Haha. I imagine most of those things are hard to come by!
[HTC One X] maxilick:
Nah not really, can have all the required items in a couple of hours........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................in my dreams. :laugh:
[HTC One X] KrisPerry:
I'd say the unicorn is most realistic
[HTC One X] ccbunny:
I think Chuck Norris can solve our problem just by breathing :)
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
OK back to topic. What's the status quo right now? Does anyone have further info we haven't heard of yet? Until now I tried almost everything. I tried to flash all diag files I have via fastboot, goldcard just in case I'm the lucky one who get that working on my device. Flashed the eng hboot while I was on 0.94 hboot. I asked on the xtc-clip official forum if the one x int. Version will be supported in the next update periods and asked local Shops in Germany/turkey if they already have the ability to s-off the one x. No positive results.
[HTC One X] BenPope:
Nothing has changed for months.

There appears to be more activity, but just going over the same ground.

Do not mistake motion with progress.
[HTC One X] Sh0X31:
We never hat s-off :'(
[HTC One X] DesmondderMondbär:
I'm gonna swap my One X for the Nexus 4
[HTC One X] muid02:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1604300

this thread will never open again :( :(
[HTC One X] MasterOfDesasters:
Count me in as well.
[HTC One X] ghori1989:
I would not jump ship right away. Check this link out

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/nexus-4-battery-shot-reveals-potential-quality-issues/
[HTC One X] shiningarmor:
that thread is dead
[HTC One X] rasel800:
So in short, with all the hackable phones in the world (even iOS with high security which gets jail broken within a week after every new release), we HOX Tegra 3 users ended up with a phone, may be one of the extremely few phones, which is not hackable.

Pity me and the fellow users...
[HTC One X] -Happy Feet-:
I think the next phone for me is the nexus4.

geschrieben mit dem Android 4.0.4 powerd HOX
[HTC One X] theliquid:
the problem is that there isn't any real developers for the Hox who is able to find a exploit...

The phone isn't intrensting enough...
[HTC One X] DJW6927:
Now there's some sensible talk on the subject. We need the likes of Cotulla/DFT and Revolutionary to fix this. These people are the heavy weights who made the break throughs before.
[HTC One X] Sentinel196:
Exactly. They worked wonders with the HD2. Mine would have been retired a year ago if it wasn't for them.

I tried contacting them back in March when the One X was released but to no avail.
[HTC One X] mibikin:
What is with people and this article? How many people are actually going to swap half the phone to change the back? It's not going to matter that the IMEI is on the inside of the back cover.
[HTC One X] muid02:
Today I asked one of the guys who works at a local shop and who is a software engineer for mobile phones (smart phones) I asked him abt s-off and to my utter surprise they have no idea what an s-off is. Shocked. He fixes many phones from dead.unlocking flashing etc. But he has no idea abt s-off. May he did s-off few HTC phones but doesnt know the term s-off. How can I make him understand in a simple way?
[HTC One X] uqadwe:
Security OFF :)

Sent from my HTC One X+
[HTC One X] Vcek:
Unsecured bootloader, HTC messed up when they gave us an unlock able bootloader that still does signature checks.

I am going to htc repair center(soon) and ask for s-off in exchange for my whole warranty and proof of purchase. I hope it works out.
[HTC One X] xmoo:
Good luck with that. They won't have the correct DIAG file for it, and HTC will not provide them with it!
[HTC One X] Vcek:
I'm hoping they do as it's the main center in the whole region.

Anyways it is well played by HTC in the first place, because now it's impossible to soft brick an s-on device unless it's s-offed xD, and hence wouldn't require service centers to s-off the phones they receive to fix.

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Here's some basic info of a smartcard. Its in German but on wikipedia you can simply change the language as all of you know.

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipkarte
[HTC One X] arses:
See this

http://sourceforge.net/projects/vsmartcard/
[HTC One X] Sh0X31:
@Football4PDA has postet this for s-off. But it's russian.

http://www.pdacenter.ru/novosti/s-off-dlja-novykh-modelejj-htc/
[HTC One X] mugglesquop:
for everyone else thats not Russian:

S-OFF for new models of HTC

C today, we offer you an exclusive service to unlock (S -OFF, Super CID, Sim Unlock) new devices HTC. After unlocking you will be able to install any firmware on your device, regardless of regional origin of your device. In case your device is locked for use with a particular operator, you will be able to use the SIM card of any operator.

Warning: Before sending the unit to the service center should:

1. Fully charge the device.

2. Make a backup and completely save the content on the external drive ( as during the procedure will hard reset and format the internal memory card).

3. Extract the sim card and memory card.

The cost of this service: 2500 rubles. (£50)

The offer is limited, hurry to unlock your HTC today!

Supported models:

HTC One X + X HTC Desire HTC Desire V HTC Desire C HTC One X One HTC S V One HTC HTC Sensation HTC Sensation XL HTC Sensation XE HTC Rhyme HTC EVO 3D HTC Explorer HTC Windows Phone 8X HTC Windows Phone 8S
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
Doesn't that mean we're getting closer to an online solution for everyone?
[HTC One X] Electronic Punk:
Nah, just means some Russians got the hardware.

They need to setup shop in London ;)
[HTC One X] Braindamage1989:
To be honest I don't think so. You still need to ship the device.

If you look at the pic you see that the hboot is one of the newest versions. This means that there is a great chance that they used the "official" way to unlock it. It also is quite expensive, more then 60 euros. I think that would have a reason to (buying of the hardware).
[HTC One X] potblack2win:
I actually think this could be the real deal.

As they have clearly described S-OFF as the method.

Also the website appears to be legit.

They have skype contacts aswell so will ask them
[HTC One X] rob9:
"I don't know how they did that, but result is s-off ^^ Now I have s-off device and will try to make program method... "

Thats from football's twitter, I'm just happy that he's going to have a look at it and see if theres anything he can do.
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Even though, this is still some great news since.....SINCE THIS DEVICE HAS BEEN RELEASED...in my opinion^^
[HTC One X] Sentinel196:
It's a step in the right direction that's for sure. I'd happily pay $50 if there was a local shop here in Sydney that could do it. Flashing nightlies is a pain in the arse when you have to do the boot.img via fastboot every bloody time.
[HTC One X] budensik:
I know it might sounds crazy but i'm planning to go to Moscow in couple days.

I've got some savings and i'll go out there and i will try to buy all required stuff especially a file which we need.

Even if they won't sell it to me i hope at least they will unblock (S-OFF) my HOX.

Anyway i was in Russia twice and it's a little bit scary i'm from Poland and i know for a fact that they don't like polish people.

Don't get me wrong but they don't like outsiders,anyway if someone from europe wants to go it would be nice especially someone with some

decent knowledge because i don't want to get ripped off.

Anyway the question to all of you what's the decent price to pay for that file ?
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Wrote them an email. It'd cost me 125€. 60 for shipping from germany and 65 for s-off.
[HTC One X] payamkh:
Sorry but when i can -s-off my one-x. Is it a date or anything

Thanks
[HTC One X] *elmo*:
No date. At the moment You can it to Russia.... Read some post above

Sent from HOX with ARHD 13
[HTC One X] payamkh:
Thankyou. But i hope it solve really soon
[HTC One X] muid02:
After searching for an hour I finally found someone who understands what is s-off and he has done it for previous HTC devices. Basically he has enough knowledge. This is what he said about s-off:

" for few devices its software work and for your device its both hardware and software. S-off for HTC one x isnt out yet and no1 has come to me for s-off HTC one x. Since u came ill give it a try to find out how to do it". He was asking me about my hboot versions and he knows the advantages of s-off and the fact that jb requires specific cid. Then o told him that does it have anything to do with goldcard or java card?. "he said that ya. It can be made. I'll make it. I will search for everything and will let you know within two days."

I am not letting my hopes high because many of the devs here tried to do s-off like xmoo. If they couldn't do it I don't think he can. But m happy that at least he knows all the things. Let's hope guys.
[HTC One X] peedub:
Nice work. I'll cross my fingers!
[HTC One X] muid02:
I need help. Tell me the process to s-off hox and why it can't be done. What files are needed. What cannot be obtained for which we can't s-off. Basically the process that is known. A rough draft would do. I need to know what's needed. Hardware and software stuffs.
[HTC One X] matt95:
If i remember right you need an Y cable, a java card signed by htc(this is the impossible thing to obtain), and another thing that I don't remember...
[HTC One X] pastynko:
Clean diag file - again from HTC...
[HTC One X] mickfitz:
Try reading the thread.
[HTC One X] matt95:
Yep, that's the remaining one
[HTC One X] muid02:
How did the Chinese s-off hoc if we need a java card sighned by HTC? The guy told me that he can make one. I guess that won't do then.
[HTC One X] matt95:
maybe he works on HTC and wants to be discharged :D who knows
[HTC One X] tomascus:
They use something called 'white card'
[HTC One X] rasel800:
I wonder how come HOX is not an interesting phone. It's the sexiest phone in the world or I should say in the history of human race upto this time with great muscle inside.

It's the most perfect balance of beauty and power. It's sad that people don't realize the obvious some time.... :mad:
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Don't waste your time! Everything what your "friend" is going to try, has already been done by xmoo and football....
[HTC One X] Vcek:
Isn't the white card some sort of microsim ? or is it another name for a java card
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
A whitecard can be in any format and every format has the same chip as seen in the pic below. There are different standarts; ID-1 for standard EC- Kreditcards; ID-000 for standard SIM-Cards and I guess micro SIM is Mini-UiCC. They all have the chiplayer built in. The One X will need a smart/white/javacard in standard micro-sim format. Technically, a whitecard smartcard and javacard are all the same things.
[HTC One X] Sentinel196:
Wonderous things are often achieved with that kind of attitude.... :rolleyes:
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Nice quote, but don't you think we're getting to irrational and emotional? I mean, his "friend" doesn't even know which hardware and software parts he needs. Don't get me wrong!; I'd LOOOVEE to see him beeing successful and having achieved S-OFF, but the sing's are telling us another end of his journey.
[HTC One X] muid02:
There is no HTC service centre in my country. We only have retailers who sells HTC phones. If a javacard signed by HTC is a must need then I think its not possible from my side. But will it work with any java/gold/white card.? He said that he can make one. Is it possible by making it?The person is a shopkeeper who fixes mobile phones. Hardware and software engineer.
[HTC One X] Vcek:
Yes its possible to make a gold card (not sure about the others) , and it used to work on older htc phones. People claim that it didn't work out well on one x.

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] matt95:
the java card must be signed by HTC... that's the problem..
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
Why is everyone getting obsessed with physical cards? What we require is not the cards themselves but the signature key/template. We need to think about how to take the physical and make it virtual.
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
Maybe because none of the great devs, (cotulla, dft, revolutionary etc.) which achieved s-off on earlier HTC devices, seems to care about the one x. The devs working here are great, without a doubt, no offence! We need professionals.
[HTC One X] Vcek:
Change log 1.95 from LGE TOOLs for unlocking and repairing smartphones:

1.95

added new models:

HTC GoldCard for Android models.

You can write any RUU-firmware with different CID.

.....blah blah other phones

The tool requires hardware(usb thingy) , and they claim they got support for One X.
[HTC One X] :
Doesn't do One X goldcard. :)
[HTC One X] xmoo:
The one that the service centers uses are named Javacard and they are in micro-sd format.

The whitecard refer to the old SIM trechnology which disabled cid check.
[HTC One X] Sentinel196:
I agree that there isn't currently a logical path forward with this, however I don't think it ever hurts to try.

Hopefully his friend is able to read through all the steps that have already been tried and learn from them. Sometimes a fresh brain is all it takes to crack something that seemed impossible to everyone else.

---------- Post added at 11:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:47 AM ----------

I just found some info on a Java Card platform simulator. Might help...

There is a project called jcardsim.

Also some more info on the runtime environment simulator here

I'm way out of my epth here, but maybe this info might help us clone a real HTC signed card?
[HTC One X] Braindamage1989:
HTC javacards are clone protected. They also have a limit in use (don't know how many exactly).
[HTC One X] Vcek:
What about connecting a Jtag and flashing the firmware directly?

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] Sentinel196:
We tried flashing directly using NVFLASH and APX mode but it was a dead end. But directly flashing the chip with a JTAG would probably work, you'd just need to copy the image off a different chip which already has S-OFF.
[HTC One X] xmoo:
Clone protected yes, but limit of use is something I have heard from... But not confirmed. My friends from repaircenter also said they have not heard from a limitation.
[HTC One X] miHah:
There is no limitation of use .. =) if it is, it counts in thousands :D but it would be useless limitation than right? :P

We've also not heard anything about javacard limitations :P
[HTC One X] Hoodlum-Z:
@ Sentinel196, sorry to go off tangent, but If you are using CM10 nightlies then get Cyan Delta from Google Play. It is brilliant and only downloads a small delta file instead of a full ROM. Saves lots of hassle when S-ON.:cool:
[HTC One X] bernyfur:
You can write any RUU-firmware with different CID.

this is not good?
[HTC One X] Vcek:
This is the main source of income of selling phones in other countries.

CID is just a variable stored on the phone has nothing to do with the hardware.

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] Sentinel196:
I just found some more info on NVFLASH for Tegra 3 devices.

The info I found is for the Transformer but some clever person may be able to get soem clues from it.

Here's the info.

I also came across a report of a One X which rebooted in APX mode after a crash.

Perhaps this is an avenue we need to start exploring again.
[HTC One X] massalami:
I tip my hat to you good gentlemen!

Its a great initiative and i wish you success in your question!

However, one thing ive noticed is that we have lots of thinkers and relatively few "doers". Maybe you could set up a development team with the best that support the hox and achieve this goal?

If in need for testers im willing to help out :)
[HTC One X] Sentinel196:
Personally, I'd love to, but the truth is that the only reason I'm not actively developing upon these ideas is because I don't have the required knowledge to make it happen, or the resources to test.

Hopefully someone else like XMOO or even the DFT (Bepe and Cotulla) can help out.

At the moment it seems there are two potential paths....

PATH 1: Using XMOO's documented S-OFF procedure, obtain a javacard and diag file and find a way to clone them.

PATH2: gain NVflash access to the device so we can do whatever we want.

It's important that these two approaches be recognized as completely separate avenues, so they don't keep getting mixed up.

At the moment, the AndroidRoot.mobi team would appear to be our best bet in terms of gaining NVFLASH access to the One X. In September they were able to crack the TP700 and now have full APX mode access for NVFLASH. A few months ago this was considered almost impossible, so this is great news. They claim to be working on other Tegra3 devices, but don't list any progress. I am going to contact them as soon as I'm done writing this to see if they can help at all.

So as it stands at the moment, we know that S-OFF is possible with the correct hardware and software, but we are unable at this time to get our hands on it.

We also know that As it stands at the moment, we know that it's possible to flash Tegra 3 devices using NVflash, but have not yet discovered a reliable way to access APX mode on the One X, however there are plenty of reported cases of ONE X entering APX mode accidentally, so we know the mode exists.

OK I'm off to email androidroot.mobi

For some additional reading, here is an explanation on the process of flashing via NVFLASH, and what's required.
[HTC One X] Vcek:
How are we gonna get into APX ? and how are we gonna obtain secure boot key to use nvflash ?
[HTC One X] dryan433:
The guy just saying it's been done ie cracked on another tegra 3 device so its quite possible there will be away to get the one x in apx just that no ones fingered how too yet. And the key could possibly be cracked like this other device who knows but it may never be cracked lol