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[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] ballu84:
Any who jumped ship from the note for the s3? Worth it? I absolutely love my note and im wondering if its worth it. Don't know if i should switch...
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] gagdude:
Well, there's going to be a Note 2 later this year, and it should have similar specs to the S3 with an even larger screen than the OG Note.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] ryandelman:
I just sold my Note i717 and am happy with my decision.

However, I am one of those who was never able to get used to the immense size of the Note, so if you like the overall size of the Note (or if the overall size isn't enough of a problem to outweigh the benefits of the huge screen), then you probably will want to hold off buying anything until Note 2 is out.

From as objective a standpoint as possible though, I have yet to find any major flaws with the S3 and although I that I was just downgrading the size of the device while making a lateral software move, I was wrong; the software additions on the S3 as well as the form and function of the S3 are top notch to the point where it's almost hard to believe both phones were released in the same calendar year.

Not sure how much that helps you as it seems like so much rambling when I reread it, but.... Lol

- Ryan
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] jimmbomb:
since I went ICS on my 6800, I now have this weird icon on the status bar, lower right, just to the left of the clock.

It looks like a lower case "i" with a circle around it.

Now I am guessing that could mean, ;notifications' off..

BUT, Im darn sure that I got my notifications on..

And I dont get the audible 'whistle' when I receive a txt message, but my volume is up.... my ringtone is loud as hell...

but no audiable notification for a txt received...

I just dont understand.....

I do have all my notifications set to 'on'

thanks for all answers, comments and questions.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] buzzmcfly:
no screen capture?

maybe its samsungs push service notification, it comes out when you open your tab after recovery.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
Please add a screen grab so we can seewhat you are talking about.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] rezalsani:
I have the same icon..probably becoz u do not have the simcard installed or in my case, I put another roaming simcard inside. Once i put local simcard it is gone. But when i disable my data plan it came out again. Just only a notification info.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Gr€€n:
I've got a screenshot if you want to see. I don't know what this icon means nor how to remove it.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] jimmbomb:
ill get you a screen shot tomorrow.

I'm out of town at the moment and only carriedthe gnote. the 7.7 is back home
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] matsuru:
Its the notification icon. Once its on, you wont get any notification even the column is up. Perfect at night when u go to sleep or u don't want any notification to disturb ur quiet time.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] jimmbomb:
Ok.. thanks... now how do I get it to go off???

I want my notifications on.. and I DO have them turned on....

But I must be missing something somewhere ..

They were always on before the flash to ICS..

They are on in the settings...

Hmmmmmmmmm. Got me stumped..
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] matsuru:
Tap on the clock on the lower right, the notification panel will pop up.

Slide the buttons to the left. You'll see the notification on/off button.

tap to highlight it green to ON it. Tap again to off it.

The same method to on/off all buttons.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] jimmbomb:
Thank you!
[HTC Amaze 4G] bigga29:
Help My phone will not turn on after I did a reboot
[HTC Amaze 4G] Perry977:
More info could lead you to some help!:confused:
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
That really doesn't help us.

1. What did you do before that happened?

2. Did you install / flash anything?

3. Did you remove anything?

We need more info.
[HTC Amaze 4G] bigga29:
I apologize for the lack of info.

I was running project butter rom and since I did the S-off to my phone yesterday randomly I lost phone signal I reboot several times nothing help, I reset the SIM card also nothing happen, before I did the S-off I have a nandroid backup so I go to recovery and flash the project butter rom from scartch and restore data phone back up with signal, today my bluetooth was not working so I decide to reboot for my surprise signal lost bluetooth working, So I try to reflash the rom wich it did reboot phone still no signal I turn the phone off to reboot but since them it wont turn on at all i connect it to the wall charge the orange LED is off,I forget to mention that the signal thing start after I flash nightmare new kernel.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
So we have a portal writer that has written multiple articles on the stuff I made and the stuff we've been doing. He asked us for more info on the Amaze source so he can write about it and help us get more recognition. Don't believe me? Look for yourself.

https://twitter.com/PoorCollegeGuy/status/222516466711396352

So can you say what new changes have been made. Did HTC make it harder on us to hack it? Did they not release anything we need? anything so we can get this published. Write it all here and I'll pass the link to this thread to him when we get responses.

Please, only respond here with information on source. NOTHING ELSE! I want to keep it nice and clean here.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Well my understanding is the wi-fi drivers are there they just commented out what we need to build it and a compat-wireless modules that they didn't include but i found another way to get it working just fine
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
That is one long run on sentence O.o lol. Any other info you guys found out. We need to add more so he can write more about it!
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Don't criticize my grammar and writing ability I go to school for that lol but my teachers tell me I'm the best writer in the class
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
hard to believe =D lol. But GETTING BACK ON THE TOPIC! lol. Any other info you guys find out?
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
Wifi is working using the existing modules that HTC provided. Currently we are still looking for a way to get the modules that are compiled by the kernel to work.
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
Yeah, it appears that they commented out the building of the wl12xx drivers, but the stock ICS does have wl12xx modules. The evidence (commentd out makefile, presence of compat.ko, wl12xx.ko, wl12xx_sdio.ko, etc.) points to HTC using a version of compat-wireless drivers, but which one, I don't know. I also don't know if HTC made any modifications to the wireless drivers, but if they did, they'd be obligated by the GPL to release the updates.

Since the tweaks sportsstar used to get wifi work in his kernel worked, that means that we should have everything we need on the kernel side of things, we just need to get and build the proper version of compat wireless. I also wonder if we need to match the version of compat-wireless with the binary firmware blob from TI. In all the work building different versions of compat-wireless, it could be we also need the proper firmware.
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
The only problem with the current tweak to use existing wifi modules is that I think it may be breaking other functions. Not sure about this yet though.

When I get my amaze this week my plan is to try a few different firmware from ti. I think you're right about needing to swap out the blobs. If this is the case then it should make things pretty easy.
[HTC Amaze 4G] brainbone:
I'm not perfectly clear on dual licenses, so it should be posed to FSF, but from what I understand, it allows the code to be compatible with GPL and BSD projects. However, if used in a GPL project, I believe the GPL portion of the license is what takes effect, since the BSD portion is not compatible with the GPL project.

A quote from Linus Torvalds:

I'm having trouble with "on their own" and "within the kernel".
[HTC Amaze 4G] johnride:
I guess this simply means that if the modules are released within a kernel like a single entity then it has to be GPLv2 but if the module's source is not released as "part of the Linux kernel" but just like "a module to make that piece of hardware working with the Linux kernel" then it can be released under BSD license.

Sent from my HTC_Amaze
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
The only module that's dual licensed is the compat.ko module, not the actual driver files, which are all still GPL. I assume that if HTC did make modifications to compat.ko, that they'd have to update the license to say BSD and not BSD/GPL. I believe all the code in compat-wireless is from the kernel itself, just a newer version, that you compile for an older kernel.

On another note, I am supposed to get a call from HTCdev escalation on the GPL driver issue. I wonder if the person who will call me will actually know what's going on, or if it will just be the generic customer support escalation team.
[HTC Amaze 4G] brainbone:
I'm still fuzzy on dual licensing, but seeing that HTC released the module as dual licensed (GPL/BSD), doesn't that allow the user to decide the license? So, if you decide that it is GPL, shouldn't they release the source for it?

Either way, keep up the good fight.
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
Well, becuase 6pm eastern is within the window of 8-11pm eastern I told them to call, I missed their call. I'll try calling them tonight.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Just a heads up, we are going to have an article written on this soon. Our portal writer is going fix up some small kinks and then we will hopefully have more exposure and support.
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/telus-amaze-4g-ics-kernel-source-released-no-ti-wlan-present/

Sent From My HTC Amaze 4G Via Someone's Room ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
I ended up talking to HTC this weekend. It was as I expected, some guy who couldn't really do anything, but he listened and wasn't really all that hostile. He said he'd pass it on to the dept responsible. I told him that HTC was oblicated to release the source for all GPL code and that they need to release it the day the executable code is in the hands of customers. We'll see if it leads anywhere.
[HTC Amaze 4G] eggydrums:
Im hoping the tmo kernel source might include what the devs need, but has htc released stuff like this by itself?
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Well this is what i got from the gb drivers

But tiwlan_drv.ko and tiap_drv.ko doesn't get built while compiling the kernel
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
My response from HTC was that they were using proprietary drivers.

Even still since the source is available from Texas it should be possible to use their code if we swap out the firmware. May have to do some calibrations and build our own WPA_supplicant though.
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
The drivers shipped with the OTA ICS release are definietly GPL. I forget which thread, but I posted the modinfo results from each of the drivers, and all evidence points to compat-wireless drivers. Perhaps they just told you that to get you off their back. Or they really do have some proprietary firmware. If they modified any of the GPL drivers, well, whether they like it or not, they have to release them.

Here's an interesting chart:

http://omappedia.org/wiki/Android_Wi-Fi_Info

Edit: lol, the modinfo results were in this thread, up a few posts
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
Just a bit more poking & proding:

https://twitter.com/oryandunn/status/227865929814511616

And an interesting exchange with @TMobile. I tweeted asking them to release WiFi calling for the Nexus. Surprisingly, they replied and said it was a good idea. Me -> #SHOCKED

https://twitter.com/TMobileHelp/status/226404698024972289
[HTC Amaze 4G] ziggy46:
maybe you can ask them for ril source since htc said it was for tmobile to release. (and they agreed to the wifi calling)
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
"ril source"? I guess I'm not familiar with that. Somehow I doubt T-Mobile has much, if any, source to release. The nice dodge by HTC seems in line with past behavior; ie. we ask for TI source (assuming it's proprietry) and they say they can't release it becuase it's proprietary, even though the license field of the modules shows GPL.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ziggy46:
yeah i read "ril source" somewhere here and never really thought much about it... shouldnt one of us contact someone who can do something about the drivers that are under GPL not being released?
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
Looking at this it makes me believe that since HTC is saying its proprietary it may be tree if their using the gingerbread firmware/code. So as I still believe we probably just need to update the WiFi/Bluetooth drivers and a couple other things and it should work if we swap out firmware.
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
As sportsstar posted above, even the GB drivers were GPL. It doesn't look like they were using the wl12xx or wl1271 drivers in GB, but I don't know that for sure. It should also be easy to diff the firmware used in GB with the one in ICS and see if they are the same or not.
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
I was just going by the link you posted which clearly has everything under ics as proprietary.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Why don't you guys ask faux for help as he's been with us since the gb and he the one that told us they are proprietary and we had to push htc to release.
[HTC Amaze 4G] brainbone:
You mean under GB, not ICS, right?
[HTC Amaze 4G] johnride:
Oh I missed my last post... Sorry!

But as we can see that the drivers are GPL isn't it a lawyer we should call if HTC still does not release the source?

Sent from my HTC_Amaze
[HTC Amaze 4G] brainbone:
If any code you have written was used in the building of the GPL binaries (making you a partial copyright holder of the work) that HTC has not released the source code for, then please call a lawyer, else, we should encourage tech-news sites to ridicule HTC, and we should make the copyright holder(s) of the code aware of the situation so they can take action if they see fit.
[HTC Amaze 4G] eggydrums:
I sent engadget a letter let's see :)

Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
hopefully, although I think like someone mentioned why would they do such thing when a lot of them get exclusive access to their new products. Its like biting from the hand that is feeding you.
[HTC Amaze 4G] brainbone:
Many tech-sites blast the largest handset maker of them all -- Apple. Remember antenna gate? I don't believe it's a reason to expect them not to write a story on HTC violating GPL.
[HTC Amaze 4G] johnride:
But the GPL attempts to protect the user as well as the author. Therefore it is possible that any user can oblige HTC to release it. Since they used GPL code in their drivers they have to make their work GPL and if they make their work GPL they have to release the source for the entire universe whether you hold copyrights on any of the code or not. Thinking about it, if the dev who created a program and released it GPL is dead and his work is used by someone else this new dev logically has to make the sources available to the users so I am more and more confident that any user can request the source code for a GPL binary.

I read a part of the GPL a few months ago, will search again to confirm I'm right or not.

Sent from my HTC_Amaze
[HTC Amaze 4G] brainbone:
Yes, but there are far more protections for the copyright holder.

From FSF's gnu.org site (the authors of the GPL):

"Since the GPL is a copyright license, the copyright holders of the software are the ones who have the power to enforce the GPL. If you see a violation of the GPL, you should inform the developers of the GPL-covered software involved."

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhoHasThePower

See also:

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReportingViolation
[HTC Amaze 4G] yo2boy:
Pastebin would've been better
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
But I want it to render the HTML. Unless I missed something, pastebin only has syntax highlighting.
[Desire HD General] asif9t9:
I don't know if ICS or JB with Sense will ever come to the DHD. But the reason I have never stuck with another ROM other than Android Revolution HD is because I end up missing Sense.

When people do change to a non-Sense ROM (haha, nonsense), what are you using for:

Friendstream alternative. With FS, I get both my twitter and FB feeds in one convenient widget. And I like how when a tweet has a link, if I click on the tweet, I can read the tweet and link all within FS. I don't get that with Android Pro Widget or Launcher Pro widget.

Calendar. The HTC calendar is so clean looking. I like the monthly view on a whole screen.

SMS. I know there are alternatives but many look so cartoony, not the clean interface of the HTC version.

But probably Friendstream is the big one. What are people doing?

Thanks.
[Desire HD General] GuyInTheCorner:
DHD will be getting official ICS before the end of August :-)

Good to see you're ditching Sense (less eyecandy: more RAM free & better performance), not sure if we have something like FS, maybe rip it from a sense ROM and install it?

Sent from my Desire HD using Swype beta for Android!
[Desire HD General] asif9t9:
How to get a Friendstream apk? Would that install on any rooted phone?

Also, I forgot to mention a key app. Mail. The mail interface on Sense is nice and clean. On some of these other apps, like K-9, it's not as nice looking. Also, I need features like auto-BCC all emails. And what I like about Sense Mail is I have two mail accounts, one Yahoo, one POP, and both homescreen icons actually tell me how many new mails there are. What's the mail app everyone is using when they switch away from Sense?
[Desire HD General] Hunt3r.j2:
You can't. FS requires a Sense framework to run at all. If it were that easy, someone would've done it already.
[Desire HD General] GuyInTheCorner:
Oh yeah, forgot that you need the framework *Facepalm*

Maybe (seriously doubt I'd ever happpen though, don't think its even possible) CM7 with Sense framework?

Sent from my Desire HD using Swype beta for Android!
[Desire HD General] Nick281051:
Never happening
[Desire HD General] overjoy71:
I know what you mean about Sense. I have tried as well and always came back to Sense..

A replacement for Friendstream.. Here are a couple:

- Seesmic (Facebook and Twitter)

- Multipost ( but I think Facebook doesn't work)

- HootSuite

- Tweetdeck
[Desire HD General] Hunt3r.j2:
CM7 with Sense framework would just be a desensed rom.
[Desire HD General] alge30:
For mail use: InoMail

Very clean, iOS looking style, and very fast etc, great mail :)
[Desire HD General] mikeinashed:
Yup - FS is hard to do without. However... check out APW widgets. The pro version has a friendstream widget which is a perfect replacement. The non-pro you have to have separate twitter and facebook. The calendar widget is also the best sense replacement I have found.

I'd stick with sense, but have a DZ so sense eats up too much RAM.
[Desire HD General] madcow_mda:
What I miss most in non-Sense roms is actually the camera. I tried and bought several other camera apps (360 camera, Zoom FX), but none seem as fast or polished as the Sense camera app. Especially with regard to focussing. It autofocusses on faces or otherwise just in the center, but you can always overrule it with tap-to-focus. I haven't found this in any other camera (yet?)

perhaps its just that I have become accustomed to that camera app.

for me, that is the only app that keeps dragging me back to sense roms.
[Desire HD General] GuyInTheCorner:
Try using the MIUI camera app

Sent from my Desire HD using Swype beta for Android!
[Desire HD General] derDoctor:
Never ever Sense

everything else is better than sense.

but the best is an stock android so like google thought it should be.
[Desire HD General] NfamousDroid:
I like some things about sense and have had my days where I missed it a little. But IMO after I used jelly bean its pure Google for me from now on. Thanks for the alternatives! :)
[Desire HD General] maddog486:
is there an alternative gui to sence ?
[Desire HD General] kidkreole:
Try Android Pro Widgets. Works for me like a charm....

Verstuurd van mijn Desire HD met Tapatalk
[Desire HD General] atrako1973:
If their were a sense contender I would have left HTC long time ago ,so no there is no sense alternative,all other launchers are the same ,boring.sense is unique
[Desire HD General] Floep:
*Sigh* yes it is unique.... at least.

Did i miss it the last 18 months? .... This gonna be a hard decissi..... Nope! :D

Miui has nice style and good cam, too and runs like a kitten on crack :cyclops:

Even though,in my opinion, Miui is no competition to latest ics/jellybean vanilla feeling. :cool:
[Desire HD General] bogduke:
I like Sense for Calendar, Mail, and (mosttly) intuitive dialler. Maybe except mail, no replacements. Therefore, Sense ROMs.
[Desire HD General] asif9t9:
Every time I try switching I keep coming back. The simple Email icons for my two email addresses, it shows the number of NEW messages. I tried Kaiten Mail and the ugly mail icon (looks like a fire hydrant), shows UNREAD messages. The problem with Unread messages is that for my POP email address, I read on my computer, or my phone. So my POP email on my phone is basically all Unread. So the icon shows me 99 Unread all the time. Useless. I just want to see NEW messages, and that's what my simple Sense 3.5 does. Sense is just better.

For Friendstream, if I click a tweet with a link to an article, the article opens up in Friendstream. With other apps like Android Pro Widgets, you have to click the link to the article and open up your browser. Grrrrrr.
[Desire HD General] oPtImUsPrImEmX1:
I also agree with many people here, I've been flashing lots of ROMs since sense 2.1 and froyo, I gotta say I've tried all available ROMs for desire HD using them for like 3 months each. For some reason I always have to go back to sense, and right now I've been flashing jellybean ports and miui ICS and some others, and sense 4 but for some I keep returning to coredroid. There is no alternative for sense 3.5 right now, not even sense 4 , in my opinion. And yes although sense makes the devices slower and consumes considerably amount of RAM sense makes android more simpler than vanilla ICS is. So in my opinion there's nothing else better than sense with all its flaws and issues, sense is the king of the ui better than touch wiz and better than lg and Motorola.