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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dakota123456789:
Okay so we all know that the Evo 4g LTE is pretty much the almost exact same as the One X obviously different hardware, but when it comes down to software aren't they almost exactly the same? Android 4.0, Sense 4, same internals more or less. So I have two questions that sort of all tie together. 1. Is porting ROM's hard? 2. Is there something I am missing to why we don't have as many ROM's as the One X? If they can be ported. I am not being a **** and saying developers need to work harder, because they don't they already work hard enough supporting their ROM's. I am genuinely curious as to why this is if the E4LTE and One X are very close devices. Again not supposed to be taken pushy or anything.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DB13:
Source for our EVOs just dropped a couple days ago and the One X has had source since day one. Just wait your gonna end up see ALOT of Roms drop soon...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] droiddawg:
Plus the one x has a bigger base as in a larger spectrum of people with it. You got to think, world full of GSM vs 1 nation of sprint users.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 18th.abn:
The international one x is a COMPLETELY different device, sense 4 being the only real similarity. We have almost identical device as the at&t, rogers one x, whose source was also JUST released. So wen checking one x forums you need to look for the at&t, rogers one x forum. NOT HTC one x forum. Two totally different devices, att. One x having qualcomm msm8960 snapdragon and the intl. Version having a Nvidia tegra 3 chipset

My EVO Ways
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dakota123456789:
Thanks guys.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
What does kernel source have to do with ROM releases? We'll see a couple of kernels here and there and perhaps some fixes in CM9/MIUI/AOKP/etc, but I doubt we'll see an influx of new ROMs because of it.

The One X been out longer and it's also available in more locations around the world. That's why it has more ROMs.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DB13:
I feel like with kernel source Devs will end up cooking up more stable kernels and with that we'll probably end up seeing alot more ported Roms and AOSP based Roms. I'm just going off of my experiences with my past devices
[Nexus 7 General] lovenokia:
Is it possible that someone with a n7 can post a video of their nexus 7 using nova launcher, and showing the homescreen rotate? I want to see if the notifications will still work while in landscape.
[Nexus 7 General] HiddenSanctum:
Works fine for me
[Nexus 7 General] loonie01:
Works here too.
[Nexus 7 General] thebobp:
How do you get nova launcher to rotate? Even after setting "Look and feel -> auto rotate", it doesn't seem to do so.
[Nexus 7 General] HiddenSanctum:
Thats exactly what I did, also make sure you didn't lock your auto rotate in your notifications (the icon with the to circle arrows with a lock icon next to the setting button and date in your notifications).
[Nexus 7 General] the noan:
Can't take the video right now but here are some screen shots.

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[Nexus 7 General] lovenokia:
i would be really glad if you could take a video of nova launcher, it would really help me thanks.
[Nexus 7 General] theoneofgod:
Holo launcher looks great on the nexus.
[Nexus 7 General] the noan:
Do you want to see it actually rotate or do you want to just see the notifications?
[Nexus 7 General] _MetalHead_:
It rotates and notifications work great! I'm using Nova on my N7 and love it, definite improvement over the stock launcher.
[Nexus 7 General] the noan:
Gotta head to dinner with people but ill post when I get back let me know what you want to see. Nova works fantastic on the nexus 7 by the way.
[Nexus 7 General] zinfinion:
@HiddenSanctum and/or @the noan

If either of you could post full resolution shots of the home screen with a light background so I can determine the heights of the nav bar and notification bar in each orientation that would be most appreciated.

@the noan

From your landscape shot it appears the nav bar is 64px high instead of the stock/default 75px high. Did you make any adjustments to the height or did Nova make it that size?
[Nexus 7 General] Ahmazin:
Though I would pitch in

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I hope this works, and that it gives you what you looking for. I love android, I just took the screen shots, connected my cable to my laptop and uploaded them straight from the device... It's the little things...
[Nexus 7 General] lovenokia:
i want to see both of them happen in a video...
[Nexus 7 General] zinfinion:
The forum seems to downsize attachments, but fortunately by 50% in this case so getting the pixel size was easy. :good:

The nav bar is 64px high in landscape and 75px high in portrait. I wonder if Nova can be tweaked to have more control over this. The notification bar looks to be 33px in both landscape in portrait, which I expected.

Thanks for the shots!
[Nexus 7 General] the noan:
hope this helps. i know what you wanted but not really sure if i showed you what you wanted. sorry for the shakes i have been drinking a little and that was the best one out of like 10 tries. if you want a longer one let me know or something more specific let me know and ill get you a sober shot when i can.

[YOUTUBE]C4_D2C37uV8[/YOUTUBE]
[Nexus 7 General] lovenokia:
thank you very much, could i see how the app traw is in landscape mode too, thanks.
[Nexus 7 General] h3r3tic:
How did u get those toggles in ur notification bar?
[Nexus 7 General] FiveOhFour:
First One is Nova and second is Apex, im new to android, im wishing i could take a couple things from Nova and merge them with Apex, i really like its customization and transition effects.
[Nexus 7 General] Ahmazin:
It's an app called Notification Toggle, free from play market.
[Nexus 7 General] FiveOhFour:
Fwiw there is also that feature built into the apex launcher app and therefore I'm assuming in many others as well but I continue to be very impressed with the extreme customization of the apex launcher,maybe it's just because I'm new to android but it certainly has much deeper options than the other popular free launchers I've tried so far.go launcher ex has been the worst for my tastes at least,it just reminds me of one of those free iPhone games that wind up being just an ad with no functionality unless you buy some upgrade and when you buy that it still doesn't really work unless you buy another upgrade to go with it
[Nexus 7 General] thevuman:
Nice. Gonna get that later :)
[Nexus 7 General] r4d14n7:
Anyone tried ADW Launcher? Anxious to see if it works on the tablet.
[Nexus 7 General] barrmulio:
just fyi - if you install the notification apk in /system/app you can get gps toggle working without it taking you to location settings...and there are a handful of themes for nicer icons
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] teflonsean:
Did anyone else notice the camera shutter sound is now controlled by the volume rocker since latest update?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] flex360:
i think that has been there for a while now
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vandymcnew:
agreed
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
Update: different branches of Asus are directly contradicting each other about whether we'll get an update. See http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28840181 for the first example. See http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=29269146 for yet another contradiction.

Title says it all, really. Asus Europe has confirmed at a press event that Jelly Bean will be released for the Prime, the TF300, and the TF700T, but TF101 and Slider users will be left out in the cold.

Rough translation:

"Sam from Tablets Magazine was present at the press conference, and ASUS confirmed that not all of its tablets can expect an update to the newest version of Android. The Eee Pad Transformer Prime TF201, the Transformer Pad TF300 and the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 are certain to receive Android 4.1 Jellybean.

The previously launched models, the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, are not expected to be updated, and will remain on Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich."

http://www.tabletsmagazine.nl/2012/...finity-krijgen-android-4-1-jelly-bean-update/
[Eee Pad Transformer General] gruntparty:
Some if not most of the developers here at XDA who program for the tf101 do a better job than the officials over at ASUS. I have faith in our developers and will support them fully to release any form of Jelly Bean for our beloved tablet.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Sir Flashalot:
Read the same news but have not seen it confirmed on other sites. Anyone? The source article says "Earlier launched models, such as the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, won't have to expect an update". They're not literally saying it will "NOT" come to the TF101. Just that it's not expected. So, it's still possible. And isn't Asus supposed to support their Android OS devices 18 months and should comply to Google regulations?

Furthermore, what grauntparty says: our respected XDA devs have done a far better job on ICS than Asus did. In fact, Asus is somehow obliged to grant us TF101 users a JB update. Especially the unlucky ones on stock rom. If you read this Asus, you know what to do... This upgrade cannot be that hard for you, even my old Defy is now running a CM10 JB nigthly already. If not, In Dev We Trust but your brand won't appear on my next shopping list.

OT/

A propos, Motorola, another fine example of customer loyalty. Defy got stuck on Froyo with a locked bootloader, which they promised to remove in 2011. Never heard anything ever since. And now thanks to xda devs it has JB. Oh, as much as I love my precious Defy I HATE Moto. :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Satertek:
If this is true, it'll be my last ASUS Android purchase. Halting support for new versions after only a year?!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] xratex:
in devs we trust, all glory to xda!!!!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] LastStandingDroid:
this is the last thing i bought from asus ,

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yeah, if its true, i hate it, Galaxy S II has one and a half year and GOOGLE says manufucator should at least support the device 18 months :(
[Eee Pad Transformer General] donnieace:
This tablet better get an official update. It shouldn't be hard for them to come up with one.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] theparanoid:
like wise i bought this tablet in december. and it know to old to be update a mere 7 months later. first it takes them months and months to get ics and it buggy.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] cholywell:
This is a surprise to any of you? There are lots of very good AOSP roms out there so we will be fine.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
I know, you don't want to believe it, but that's clutching at straws. (Google-translated straws, at that.)

Asus has told them which products are and aren't getting updates. They've reported that. The only way we'll get an update from Asus now is if they change their mind, which is pretty darned unlikely.

I'm sure we'll get an excuse at some point that the TF101 and Slider "aren't capable" of running JB, which we all know is complete nonsense.

The real reason we're not getting the update? Because we're Tegra 2, which is no longer the current generation. Hence it costs money to make the update; they can't simply repurpose an update for another device. (Devices getting the update are all Tegra 3; devices not getting it are all Tegra 2.)

If you ask me, it's likely why the ICS update we got is so rubbish, as well. We got a half-assed bodged variant of Tegra 3 ICS, rather than a proper Tegra 2 build. So frankly, it's good news that we're not getting official JB, because we'd just have gotten another half-assed build if they'd shipped one, anyway.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Sir Flashalot:
No, that's how I interpret the source article. And I'm Dutch, so I should know. I couldn't care less what Asus does or doesn't.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] LastStandingDroid:
the matter is that i want H/W on it, AOSP doensn't have it
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
Fair enough, apologies for the misunderstanding, I don't often look at people's flags. Should've noticed that, though.

That said, even with your translation, you're still clutching at straws. Why would Asus tell them it wasn't coming, unless they'd decided it wasn't coming?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] cholywell:
And just what is "H/W"?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] locutus7o9:
Transformer TF101 was launched on March 30, 2011. Adding 18 months, we should be hoping for software updates until October 2012.

That would give Asus 2.5 more months to support the device with updates. I'd personally expect perhaps 1 more ICS update but given Asus track record on updates I don't expect JB anymore. It takes them a couple (or more) of updates to get it somewhat stable and that would take more months.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] alizafar:
WHAT its been 3 months since I bought this tablet FUC# you Asus "In XDA I TRUST"
[Eee Pad Transformer General] scottyf79:
Try getting yourself a Samsung Tablet then and see what real under valued customers have to go through. Asus have been way more reasonable with updates for the TF. I can understand the frustration but there are worse out there. Org Gtab (some) are still on Froyo, then the 1st gen larger tabs (some) are still on HC.....then the Tab2 rolled out within months of those.

Maybe the problem is just the whole Android system in itself......too many cooks and all that.

Maybe Google will have to ditch some of the manufacturers from the scene.

Or maybe the manufacturers that use Android just need to stop arseing around with it and all the fancy schmancy extra things they do with the O.S and leave it as close to the Google image as possible.

Or they should just pay our devs a good some of money to fix what they have came up with and let them show the way it should be done.

Who knows.

As much as i like how the whole android set up works for me, i have to be honest and say i now understand why and how Ipads etc are so appealing to some. Its a lot of money to spend on something that "sometimes" works the way it should.

I would jailbreak any "i"device so i dont think its a case of you shouldnt have to rely on our fantastic hard working devs to make something better......its just the way it is.

Go devs! We salute you! nuff respect :p:good: (look forward to some well made JB:D)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] RaymanFX:
Well, no JellyBean crap from asus for you this time.

But as of aosp, I am making progress.

I love my TF101, even though our relationship is complex atm as we have to communicate through adb, as the touchscreen drivers aren't fixed as of now.

But JellyBean works. Just a little more effort for the first test releases.

I even get full support from my old friend guevor and maybe also from Team Liquid for Rom debugging.

Nuff said, asus.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sbiriguda:
I'd be surprised by the opposite: the Xoom is on the "officially supported" list and it's almost identical (hardware-wise) to the TF101, so Jelly Bean has to work on our devices.

Keep up the good work!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] LastStandingDroid:
Hard/Ware acceleration, you can't play videos with H/W in aosp, and i do look at videos with my tab,

and we got no dualboot kernel for the tab neither
[Eee Pad Transformer General] cholywell:
I just got done watching a 720p video with MX Player on Cyanogenmod and hardware acceleration worked perfectly fine. HD videos in YouTube play flawlessly as well. This is the first I have ever heard of hardware acceleration supposedly only working on Asus roms
[Eee Pad Transformer General] wingzero2085:
I guess Asus abandoning the TF101 and slider doesn't surprise me in the slightest, given their apparent inability to fix the issues plaguing both the TF101 and the slider (which, amusingly, are the two remaining Tegra 2 devices in their stable). I never had any illusions that they'd ever give us Jellybean, truthfully -- and in reality, all I really want is ICS in a stable, usable form and I'm likely never going to see that either. I love Jellybean on my GNex, so perhaps I'd go with a rom from one of the devs here if I end up having to keep my TF101 for awhile ;).

The TF101 is the last Asus device I will buy for a long time -- my memory can be long and very biased (I still have a slight hatred for ATi thanks to a driver incident I had with their catalyst drivers back in the early 2000s). I would rather have Samsung's absolute lack of updates, personally. At least my older Samsung devices still work reasonably well (the lone exception for me would be the crap they called gingerbread for the Captivate).

The people I feel sorriest for are the Slider owners -- that device isn't even a year old. How freaking nice, Asus.:rolleyes:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Solar.Plexus:
Haha well I'm currently looking for a Slider, so if anyone doesn't want theirs anymore, I'd be glad to take it off your hands.

I wouldn't really be bothered by the lack of Asus support. In my opinion, there's no real reason to stay on an Asus ROM anyway.

Besides, the reason anyone would look at buying a Slider or TF101 now would be just because they are unique devices. From what I can tell, the Tegra 2 does just fine with most things.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] tony10000:
My Samsung GT2 7" just received an OTA update to ICS 4.04. The TF101 is still on 4.03. And, they are using the 3.08 Linux kernel. So, even Samsung seems to be pulling ahead.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] wingzero2085:
I would beg to differ with you there. My TF101 does not handle things just fine -- it can't even play Angry Birds Space without crashing (confirmed to plague both the stock rom and custom roms -- nvidia drivers are nvidia drivers -- even rom makers can't avoid that). Google Music and Gmail both produce a slew of OpenGL errors which result in black screens or semi-frozen apps, and this is with a custom kernel (and I've heard that these bugs persist for some even with ROMs).

So yeah.. if these issues won't bother you or you never see them, great, but in my personal experience over the past 5 months, Asus can keep their upcoming crap if its going to end up like the TF101 and the slider. Meh.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] scottyf79:
I would like to think so seen as its one of the newest tabs out.... my concern would be - why not just give us a JB update in a few weeks instead.

Could be a long wait if the track record continues.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] betsuni:
Well we can look at this way (silver lining and all). ASUS won't mess the tablets up worse.:silly:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] wingzero2085:
I have a Tab 2 7.0 as well but have not gotten the OTA (nor will Kies work, either... it keeps dropping the connection to my tab. Yeah. Way to go Samsung!). Honestly, this is par for the course for Samsung -- while I'm sure we'll probably get JB on the Tab 2, it may be awhile ;) .... a long, long while. :p

So yeah, the grass is not always greener, but what level and type of garbage you're willing to put up with is more the issue, it seems! Scary.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
That's my opinion as well. ICS from Asus was and continues to be such a mess, frankly I don't want them pushing JB on me.

The only thing I want them to do is provide an official path back to Honeycomb, and make it as easy as possible for third parties to make ROMs.

Asus simply doesn't have the competence.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] CrazyPeter:
In short, the GT2 doesn't have the Tegra2 chipset, and the chipset vendor is the one that determines what kernel to use. Not that is really matters anyway, as the kernel version has very little to do with performance.

But there is no excuse to not be on 4.0.4 given the significant performance improvements it brings.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] asdfuogh:
The problem is that Android is so open that there really is competition among manufacturers to push out new products. This means that Asus can't spend time on their old products (why waste time on a product that has been sold already if these people aren't likely to buy more products that they push out?). I don't agree with it, and I don't want their updates personally. However, it irks me that they've declared that they won't update despite the guarantee..
[Eee Pad Transformer General] psinno:
Your tablet must just hate you :confused:

Just tried Angry Birds and it works fine on my tablet. Other than not being much fun.

No problems with Gmail either.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] blackhand1001:
The Xoom is getting an official build of jellybean. Hopefully that is a good starting point to build off of for a jellybean rom.

I don't get why Asus is not doing it. Google is practically doing all the work for them with the Xoom. All Asus has to do is put in their specific drivers for anything that differs between the two.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] psinno:
Companies can be weird. Take the Xoom for example. Only in the last month of so have any non US Xooms been updated to ICS. The UK Xoom is still on 3.2. How crazy is that.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] scorpion_s66:
who's here to judge?!!

samsung GT2 just receive ICS like 2 or 3 weeks ago ,We got our ICS update like a 8 - 9 month ,with or without bugs we're 1 step ahead of any other products and let's be honest there's no official thread from asus that says we are not gonna have jellybean update on tf101.

try to be positive and less cruel-ling

asus and google are now partners over nexus7 tablet so it's not so far for us to get 4.1 update officially.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] JoinTheRealms:
I have to say in a way im happy that asus wont release jelly bean officially. They ruined my opinion of ICS when they released it then once i tried the amazing custom roms here the official ICS was laughable. If the updates from asus went the way they were Jelly Bean update would be a catastrophic failure
[Eee Pad Transformer General] GoSooners345:
The defy defies Motorola
[Eee Pad Transformer General] blackhand1001:
The galaxy tab 2 shipped with ics.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] oifi:
We'll get JB on the TF101!

Everything else is just rumor.

"ASUS Deutschland Wir müssen dies klar dementieren. Die Kollegen aus den Niederlanden haben keine Aussage über TF101/SL101 getroffen, sondern lediglich bestätigt, dass die TF201/TF300/TF700 ein Jelly Bean Update bekommen werden. Der Umkehrschluss, dass TF101/SL101 kein JB Update erhalten werden, ist falsch und reine Spekulation. Nach aktuellen Kenntnisstand werden auch Nutzer der älteren TF101/SL101 in den Genuss eines Android 4.1 Updates kommen."

ASUS Germany facebook
[Eee Pad Transformer General] scottyf79:
Translated

ASUS Germany We have to deny clear. Colleagues from the Netherlands have made no statement about TF101/SL101, but merely confirms that a Jelly Bean TF201/TF300/TF700 update be received. The converse, that is not TF101/SL101 JB update will be false and pure speculation. According to current knowledge, and users of older TF101/SL101 enjoy an Android 4.1 update will come.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] gkillerx:
Well google said the xoom wil get 4.1 and that has a tegra 2 chip in it so it should be an easy port i guess?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] 3ernd:
tf101 IS getting the 4.1 update

Asus denies the rumors via their german Facebook page:

"We need do deny this clear. Our colleagues from the Netherlands have made no statement about TF101/SL101, but merely confirmed that TF201/TF300/TF700 are going to receive an update to JB. The converse, that TF101/SL101 wont get an update to JB is not true. According to current knowledge, an Android 4.1 update will come for our users of older TF101/SL101.

www#facebook#com/media/set/?set=a.345993925469635.70474.127204164015280&type=1&comment_id=2749862&offset=0&total_comments=26"

Best Regards

Bernhard