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[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
I totally agree with your conclusion m8. I wasn't able to find words but you poured down my thoughts in your post there :D

I believe that gnex JB is atleast 150 % smoother as compared to gnex ics. I'm sure we all will be pleasantly surprised with when jb hits s3.

One reason why I'm not hyper excited for jb is that it looks a lot like ics. Only thing I'm envious about is the advanced notifications in pull down notification bar. And the new windows camera app as well :P

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[Galaxy S III General] paranoid2007:
I have both phones at the moment and theSGS3 is still faster compared to the Nexus with Jelly Bean. Jelly Bean gave the Nexus a nice speedup, but it doesn't come close to the SGS performance. BTW, I have 400 apps installed with numerous widgets which constantly sync.

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[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
Ya besides the slightly different settings menu layout, the animations, the search bar, google now and the drop down notification bar, all the changes are under the hood so to speak.

The new notification layout is really nice, the way you can use two fingers to show more info is a nice touch.

To the guy above, there is no question about performance, when it comes to performance the S3 wins every time, the main improvements are in UI smoothness.

Its not so much gnex vs. S3 but rather ICS vs. JB.

JB wins every time (for obvious reasons, its newer)
[Galaxy S III General] :
Question is why did it take so long for Google to bring this level of smoothness?? Were they just lazy?

I am not "thrilled" to hear about project butter. This is coz smooth operation should be taken for granted. Whatever you say it's pathetic from part of google that they left this elemental thing for so long. There should never be a project butter if those guys would have been working properly. Someone clearly messed up royally from the very start. This should have been from cupcake/donut. Its a shame for google that they had to virtually admit infront of whole world that Android is a laggy OS. Simple fact -- if it isn't laggy, why do we need a project butter???

As for GNex, there is only 1 advantage. It gets JB first. Other than that it has got a horrible screen. Anybody who says other wise is clearly justifying his purchase. Pathetic battery life (even without LTE) and runs on my grandpa's favourite GPU. Lets not talk about the camera.

Moral of story -- Google did something which should have been done 6-7 years back even before cupcake was launched.
[Galaxy S III General] barondebxl:
What have you been smoking? There's nothing pathetic about Google improving.their OS. Project butter is here now and it will stay and improve in the future. And you're calling the nexus pathetic? What would you call an iPhone 4s? Cause the nexus with ICS was better than the iPhone. One more thing android is 5 years old I don't know how you came up with 6/7 years ago.
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
First of all android is built for numerous devices and has to incorporate compatibility for a clusterf*ck of hardware, drivers, libs etc. etc.

Fluidity was easy for crapple because they had ONE device to build for and they could optimise the **** out of it.

Android is vastly better than iOS because of everything it offers and if you look at where it came from compared to where it is now you will see how 'lazy' Google were. Look at iOS at the start and now and you will be hard pressed to see any differences.

As for the gnex, ya the camera is poor compared to other cameras today, that is true but the screen isn't ****, SOME screens on the gnex were **** but mine is fine, not as good as my S3 but that's understandable, Samsung have had a lot of time since the release of the gnex to perfect the manufacturing process of the amoled screens, people buying gnex's now are saying that the screens are miles better than the older ones so obviously the quality has improved on Samsungs side.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
Dude, screw writing Sherlock Holmes novels. They should just write detective novels about you.
[Galaxy S III General] yann1949:
The truth

Hi

I don't beleive that actually another smartphone can win the S3. it's the truth :cowboy:
[Galaxy S III General] :
Is it bad to criticize your favourite object?? My question still remains..Even though I advocate android, there is no getting away from this point that we have a "project butter". It's a shame that we need a something like project butter. My point is users should take this for granted that the user experience is fluid. There should never have been any project butter if they optimized the OS properly in beginning.
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Why didn't you start programming and build your own os? The perfect one which is buttery smooth and needs no improvement at all.

As far as google is concerned they operate by something called RLD process (acronym for release level development). Designers develop based on release priorities. They found it was not smooth enough so they tried their best and fixed it by making it smoother.

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[Galaxy S III General] lashton:
I have both also and sorry but the nexus kicks my GS3! :(
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
What ROM are you running on gs3? Have you tried cm9 yet?

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[Galaxy S III General] sway40:
Some of these posts are from people having the quad core gs3, has anyone noticed. The ones outside the US are quad core, so those will be faster hands down. As far as the dual core gs3, I can't speak as to what's faster between it and the nexus bc I've never messed with the gs3, but having both dual cores and the gs3 is clocked slightly higher it could be close or the same in performance.

Just had to point that out, in the US, dual core...outside, quad. I believe the gs3 is clocked at 1.5ghz with the dual core version, im clocked the exact same thing and my apps open instantly... just saying. Not saying one phone is better than the other bc imo they're both great phones.

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[Galaxy S III General] :
you don't need to be so defensive about it.. as if my last comment insulted your intelligence. it's a very simple logic -- why do we need project butter? if android was already fluid, why would we need project butter?
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Your comment did insult all the developers and programmers and me being just a part of it. When we design software we don't know what buttery smooth means. I remember optimizing the login time of a website that I designed by 2 seconds per login. That saved my organization over 250k a year of efforts. If it was you, you will say that "this should have been two seconds less to begin with and developer did nothing that should be appreciated".

Positive criticism are always welcome but negative thoughts that demean work of others are not.

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[Galaxy S III General] norpan111:
Exactly this, why release updates to anything at all? It should be perfect from the beginning?

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[Galaxy S III General] saravoxy:
Bala, how is the Jb ROM? I'm downloading it currently. Also did you have to install CM9 before flashing it?
[Galaxy S III General] LemonPlusTea:
Does that have something to do with project butter..?
[Galaxy S III General] kikisp:
and that point about screens..both are same..pentile amoled hd..if i am not mistaken
[Galaxy S III General] DaveDH:
If you would have build something yourself you would know that after you build something you will always see something that can be better afterwarts . It is my believe that thing is called perfectionisme . And that is why developers send out updates .

Just my 2cents ....
[Galaxy S III General] gee2012:
I`am sorry don`t want to flame or offend you but that is STUPID.

We will be getting JB too within the next 2 months and than the S3 will fly even faster :victory:
[Galaxy S III General] Oomahey:
Heh! It's like asking why we had the Ford T-Model first and not a Ferrari Enzo from the very beginning?

Mate, any development (software, hardware, manufacturing or automobile) is like a ladder. You climb the first step, then the second, then the third and so on till you reach the top. Try to skip and you're liable to fall flat on your face. ;) :good:
[Galaxy S III General] barondebxl:
Ok so let me ask you this, what is Google suppose to do? Not release a project butter cause it should have been done years ago? " oh you know what, let's not release project butter cause it will make us look bad, we should have done this years ago..." that's ridiculous dude. Android OS is a great OS, always have been. I believe you're using a SGS3 so if you're that frustrated with it why don't you choose IOS or WP7? Exactly cause android offers more and it just got better where it was lacking. I believe you're an android guy so I'm not bashing you or anything but Google is doing the right thing, they just significantly improved the OS performance so I can't understand why you would complain, forget the fact that it should have been done years ago, it's here now.
[Galaxy S III General] bala_gamer:
you can feel the goodness of JB with the latest netchip's build. though its not a daily driver(no calls, wifi , bluetooth and many) you can play with the build for few hours and enjoy "project butter" , as 3g is working you can also enjoy the buttery smooth browser .
[Galaxy S III General] norpan111:
Don't know if you agree with me, or misunderstood my post :)

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[Galaxy S III General] aydc:
On your current ICS rom, go to Settings - Developer Options and set Window Animation Scale and Transition Animation Scale to OFF. Your S3 on ICS will fly much faster than any phone on JB.
[Galaxy S III General] Arsaw:
Project Butter is just a name given to the newest implementation of codes to make Android more fluid and responsive. Android already fluid in the past. But that doesn't mean it cannot be made better. There is always something to improve on any softwares or hardwares. IOS, WP7, Linux, Windows or any others, all work the same way. It doesn't surprise me if Google announce Project Butter 2 in another 1 to 2 years time.
[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
I don't understand any reason why people are outraged or even surprised.

Just because you have a Ferrari doesn't mean it will drive any better than a mustang if the ECU isn't programmed to be fully optimized.
[Galaxy S III General] MXR2:
Moral of the story? Really? Would it change the fact that since android's inception, it's already 6-7 years or 5 years old? Would your moral view turn back time and bring "project butter" for android 1.0? You're not "thrilled". Well, that's for you. Definitely not for me, I'm pretty darn thrilled. "Someone clearly messed up from the start?" You think one version can fix it all? You think 6-7 years ago hardwares for mobile phones can handle triple buffering? Give me an example of a mobile device that is buttery smooth from 6-7 years ago, I double dare you. If everything is perfect all along, most systems would never require version updates. You write as if you can forsee problems and overcome them without progress? Leave your real name here, and go on and pioneer a technology/system. We'll keep a good look out for your progress.
[Galaxy S III General] jpasint:
Wow, either something is seriously wrong with your GS3 or my GN.

Because JB on my GN is not even close to being faster than my GS3.

And I have both GS3's.

Joe
[Galaxy S III General] Sango2:
If I recall, as part of the JB update, they did enable triple buffering and vsync in some screens which helps the graphic animations more fluid. If JB comes to S3, then it too will have this effect.
[Galaxy S III General] :
Take a chill pill :cool::cool:...you will get a heart attack if you are so emotional. relax and breathe properly. go and see a doctor tomorrow and join some anger management course.

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ha, it's so great seeing how all these people get riled up just for a elementary issue..point is google messed up with their priorities...you can shoot all your useless logic, but does not take away the FACT that project butter exists..if they hadn't messed up in the first place, there would be no lag and there would be no project butter..

is android laggy? why else would we need a project butter?

these should have incorporated from very beginning..it's not about hardware or software, it's about a philosophy and vision.

you guys are no different from Apple or MS fanboys..apple fans worship Steve like anything, you guys do the same with Google. you don't have any specific person to worship, but whatever google says/does is like act of God..
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
OK where to start.....

1) you are repeating yourself.

2) you are purposely trying to start arguments. (a.k.a. trolling)

3) your rationale is simplistic and deluded at best.

4) your knowledge of the subject at hand is non existent.

5) you are purposely avoiding arguing any real points made by people and merely rattle off the same diatribe every time.

To sum up, damnant quod non intelligunt.

(Google it)
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Holy hell.

Just installed netchip's build and damn it runs so smoothly on gs3.!!!!!

I've never experienced a browser so smooth... not even iphone4s... :)

I couldn't feel this improvement on nexus. On gs3, the butter is more buttery.

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[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
You stop that right now, making me jealous and you know that my most recent nandroid is 3 weeks old so I have to make a new one before I flash that build, it just takes so God damn long.

That build is 3g only isn't it? Like no wifi or calls??
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
Yep that's right. Nothing but 3g works. I don't see the point in flashing to be honest.

I did a Nandroid last night.... 10 mins is a long time to wait when u have a notions of flashing :D
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
Well i might give it a go anyway, just so I can point and laugh at people that didn't! :D

But ya the nandroids on the s3 take forever, I'm used to the gnex where a rom is like 150mb and then whatever data after that, here a rom is 600+mb and then data. Its monstrous!
[Galaxy S III General] ceo.mtcl:
Lol you are right :) nandroids take forever on this but trust me, this is totally worth it. Give it a try :) and play for 30 minutes and then go back to the nandroid.

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[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
Nandroid is doing its thing so on my way to seeing JB on my S3. Should be sweet!
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
You've got me thinking now :D
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
The download is as slow as ****, still haven't flashed it.

Only 70% downloaded. :mad:
[Galaxy S III General] YoungAceAtlanta:
Now I think your just getting way tooo ahead lf yourself ... the Nexus is faster with jelly bean ... but I wouldn't say faster than my S3
[Galaxy S III General] nicknowsky:
You guys don't realize that the nexus devices are just the straight up best Android devices you can get. Heck even my old Nexus S is still a comparable device and the DEVn is never ending. But yeah the GNex is the best all around
[Galaxy S III General] dr.m0x:
Nope. They have the best software support. That's about where it ends.
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
In terms of the UI then yes, it is valid.

Let's not forget that the comparison isn't between performance or hardware but rather software, and vanilla JB destroys TW ICS.

I really hope Sammy put TW on a diet for the JB update.
[Galaxy S III General] NIK516:
My galaxy nexus is supper smooth on jb but im selling it due to these three things.

1. Speaker is to quiet

2. Camera is to weak in low light.

3. Screen looks muddy at times

Jb can not solve these three problems, so ill buy an s3 and flash jb on it lol
[Galaxy S III General] chrisd1a1:
thread cleaned, please keep on topic and stay nice, i don't want to have to start warning people

regards

Chris
[Galaxy S III General] biffsmash:
All I have to say about this matter is that speed isn't everything. My SGS3 is ten times faster than my Nexus ever was and is completely lag free anyway, so if Jellybean GNEX is ten times faster than ICS GNEX I take my hat off to google.

All I will say is try and take a picture on a Nexus Jellybean or not and you can forget it because they come out crap. Try to hear your ringtone when someone calls you in the pub, forget it because the speaker is crap. Try and hear someone in said phonecall in the pub, forget it the earpiece speaker is crap. Try and get through a day of heavy or even medium use on the phone, forget it because it's not happening. Try and use the full screen all of the time without the stupid on screen buttons chopping off a good amount of screen real estate, forget about it. Try and swipe the lockscreen the other way because your're left handed, nope nothing doing their either.

Sorry but the nexus devices are second class citizens when it comes to hardware because Samsung wanted the SGS3 to be their flagship and it is. When JB releases on SGS3 i'm sure it will once again smoke the Gnex on speed because no matter how good the os is, the Gnex is slow and outdated hardware and always will be
[Galaxy S III General] Mechapanda:
I think you guys are misunderstanding something. The galaxy nexus is smoother on jelly bean because of project butter, i seriously doubt the nexus could beat any of the s3 models on actual speed.

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[Galaxy S III General] norpan111:
TEN times faster?
[Galaxy S III General] dr.m0x:
Yes the op has selected the wrong word from the start. Nexus on jellybean is smoother, not faster. We can just look at any benchmark you care to name in order to prove the enyxos dual and quad processors flat out spank omap4, and mali 400 murders sgx540.

The only thing where nexus is on par, speed wise, is they both have 1gb ram. Nexus had more free ram sure to lighter aosp firmware, but put aosp on sgs3 and that advantage is negated already.
[Galaxy S III General] Matt3333:
Lol! I'd rather get the better S3, wait for JB to drop, hopefully very soon. Than be an absolute moron, and get the worse Nexus, just to have JB right this second.

ICS runs fine on the S3 at the moment if I'm honest..

Also, bearing in mind, JB on the S3 will turn it into a monster!
[Galaxy S III General] shaggydabbydo:
I'm ok to wait until Christmas

I'm very much looking forward to having JB on my S3. It will be Utterly Buttery come Christmas :D
[Galaxy S III General] resore:
whats the nexus battery cost in context of those few extra frames per second to actually look buttery smooth? before nexus had a terribad battery, it got worse?
[Galaxy S III General] nodstuff:
OK seriously let's stop this ardument before it starts, everyone knows the S3 is better hardware wise, that isn't even being questioned!!!

Why the long post about how **** the gnex camera is and the battery being poor etc. What has that got to do with JB vs. ICS??

This is a software discussion NOT hardware!!!!!

This is a discussion on the UI smoothness in JB and how it compares to ICS, which just happens to be on the phone we are all using.

So let's try keep it on the topic of software please.
[Galaxy S III General] nicknowsky:
Yes agreed 100% hardware SG3 is better, but totaling up hardware and software together right now. THe Galaxy Nexus is on fire. Soon as the SG3 gets some Project Butter love, things might change. But for the moment Pure Google Devices aka Nexus (1, S, Galaxy, and now 7) shows the best of what Android has to offer
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragn4rce:
OK so here's my crazy question.

I want to combine the ICS and the JB Boot animation.

Does anyone know how I can go about doing this???

Because I like both on my Galaxy Nexus and I know how I can make it look. Just need the tools to put em together.

I have the HD Version of both.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] IINexusII:
if you got photoshop youll be able to blend the jellybean image on top of the ICS one. the files inside the bootanimation.zip are just png frames
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragn4rce:
Ok.

But would I be able to add extra effects??? Cuz I don't want the ICS animation behind the JB X.

I want the the x remain black and make the ics animation surround the JB X in faded looking circle around the rim.

Do u know what I mean by that??? Really hope so.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] imilleson:
Editing each frame in Photoshop would be a nightmare . Yes the effect you want is possible. I just don't think anyone could or would put in the man hours. My suggestion, use adobe flash or adobe after effects and create the animation and save it as JPEG so it renders the frames as pictures and then compile...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragn4rce:
OK I'll try that.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragn4rce:
I got adobe after effect up.

How do I import it??? It keeps saying unsupported because it's a zip.

I have winrar. How can I start working getting both animations blended???

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spaceman860:
Ask in this tread the OP is very good in making boot animations http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/12938-Boot-Animations-for-Galaxy-Nexus-~-Updated-07/13/12

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] P.Mobile:
I looked around and cant find it?? wanted to kno what the new hboot is that comes when u accept the new OTA?? THANKS :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] P.Mobile:
somebody ??? anybody???
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kandiyams:
C u n da same boats as me. I have the EVO LTE I rooted it on May 24 when it was 1st released HOWEVER our Google wallet app has not been working after tht so HTC finally made us our OTA Android 4.0.3 update. NOW I did the 1 click UN-INSTALL root then updated my phone from android 4.0 ICS to the android 4.0.3 so the google wallet app could work BUT now I tried RE-ROOTING the phone & it is NOT letting me. It does the reboot and everything but the root is UNSUCCESSFUL. I am extracting the correct HTC_EVO_4G_LTE root file and everything. So there has 2 b a DIFFERENT root file and link now because of this android 4.0.3 software & 1.22.651.3 firmware upgrade thing is we jus gotta wait 4 it but they aint gone do anutha root until they release this jellybean android 4.1 watch, smh

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] P.Mobile:
??? im just woundering what the new hboot is.. im all set rooted s-off.. i did the firmwear update my self.. i would never take an OTA i know better than that!!! im just curious to what the new hboot is that comes with taking the OTA...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kandiyams:
Wht I do kno is tht this lil OTA update fixed the patch with Google Wallet. Wht is an hboot?? I saw ppl speakn of tht n another thread n they said sumthin abt not b n able 2 da the "S-OFF" bcuz it has a patch *shruggn shoulders if Im not mistaken. But I made mine S-OFF b4 I unrooted it & did the OTA update...HOW THE HELL do u do a firmware update urself & DONT do the OTA update??
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DrZune:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1766628
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] EVOMIKE025:
I'm sorry, I lol'd at this whole thread.. research fellas research!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] P.Mobile:
i did search.. thats why im asking.. i been coming on here long enough to kno to look first... i even google it and didnt see isshhh... i still hit the thanks button for ya bro!!! lol.. ;)