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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
@bpdamas

So have you installed the latest OTA yet? There's a new HBOOT (1.19), so until you confirm S-OFF remains, I won't be updating :eek: for fear of losing S-OFF (highly unlikely) on my 4th LTE.

Please please update us once you've confirmed so that I can apply and dump the ROM ;).
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
Definitely need to know if this method will work again. Eager to see what the 4G improvements mean as I'm in and out of current markets.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] parmend:
Will people with hboot 1.15 see the 4g improvements just by flashing the Rom or would they need the radios and pri?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Most likely the firmware will be needed too.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] parmend:
I guess ill have to take the update :(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jcwxguy:
I installed ota update with my s-off phone and s-off remained after update

Sent from my Evo LTE or SSGS3 using Forum Runner
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
Did you follow the original instructions in the first post or just install the OTA without any other steps?

Did you maintain root as well?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PillowMetal:
Awesome!! That means they are still not running a fastboot writesecureflag after the updater-script - this means will be able to RUU or flash the RUU's rom.zip too without issue, I will verify that and post back (I like to start fresh once in awhile and clean out the cobwebs)

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I'll let him respond, but I'll bet he followed the same steps and lost root. However, because of the beauty of S-OFF, you can just flash everything back (lazypanda hboot and TWRP) from inside the bootloader, then flash SU and busybox from recovery.

Essentially, the steps can be summed up as 1) make your phone look like stock, 2) take the OTA, 3) flash away to get it back the way you want it. I personally am going to wait for the new RUU and skip all these steps and just 1) run the new RUU, 2) flash away. This is what I did to get the recent update.

I'll post back if I run into problems...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
FYI - We have the RUU.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] greyopaque:
Quick question.. does the RUU wipe the internal 'sdcard'? I always wondered exactly how separate the internal 'sdcard' is from the system and app RAM, since its not really independent of the device like a real SDCard

Also, will the RUU fail if I've altered system apps?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
All, I guess I have been a bad androider lately. I will install it this afternoon and report back. It sounds like some have installed it and still have retained s-off but I will let everyone know how it goes for me later today.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] greyopaque:
I suspected as much, but just wanted to clarify, since its not really a physical sdcard. Thanks!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
Just updated. s-off is retained. You can flash the lazy panda bootloader, then twrp, and then su through recovery to retain root. Hope this helps.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
I used your method for the first OTA and worked great. So, do I just follow the original instructions all over again? Or do I run the OTA and flash panda, twrp, and su again? Is there no need to extract from the RUU this time? Sorry, just wanting to make sure I do it correctly.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
If you have a stock recovery there is no need to extract from the RUU this time. Also, you can just download the zip file in the first post and flash the stock recovery if you don't have it already installed.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
I've got my hands full today so maybe I'm not understanding correctly. I am rooted, s-off with lazy panda and running twrp already. I have changes to build.prop so I know I need to revert those before proceeding. Am I running steps 10-31 over again? Thanks!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] greyopaque:
I noticed the lazy p hboot flashable zip doesn't seem to be on their page anymore. Is this something we could upload here? -- EDIT: I'm an idiot, see next post.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PillowMetal:
Yeah, it's still there, they just did a redesign of their website. It's on the top right, third link under downloads, labelled "fastboot flash enabled HBOOT".

Here is the page: http://unlimited.io/lazypanda.htm
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Robbie_G:
Instead of connecting to the computer and using fastboot to install TWRP, why not just use their PJ75IMG method like you do for everything else? Downloadable here: http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/98
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] greyopaque:
That's what I do.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ReproOne:
Captain_Throwback: I am about to apply the OTA update released this week, and just want to make sure the steps are the same. As you know, I applied the last OTA using this method. Do I now just start with Step 10 by using the stock recovery 1.22.651.3?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
You should be able to use any stock recovery - it doesn't have to be the one that came with the latest ROM.

But yes, that's where you should start.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Robbie_G:
For some reason my OTA update for 2.13 failed (red exclamation mark ). I had to ruu and start over (with the help of titanium backup). Maybe I changed something in /system that I forgot about? Not sure. Anywaya, I could post a guide on how to update this way and regain root (if you're s-off) if anyone is interested.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
Following steps 10 on worked fine for me. Unfortunately, with the new app associations I can't get all apps to associate correctly even using the build.prop edit. Bummer...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
Completely legit. Do you guys think I should change the OP to point to this? Might be simplest because then you could be mobile and have all the necessary files on dropbox to go back to stock, install the update, and then regain root without ever having to attach to a computer. Also, do you have to remove everything but "PJ75IMG" from the zip name? I think you do but don't remember.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
If you are interested in finding out what is causing that you could just hold the volume up button and press power to go into recovery and see where it failed. This happened to me when I tried to install an update previously. I was able to fix it. See this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1769264

Just giving info in case people see this.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PillowMetal:
This is how I did it anyway... may as well change it in the OP because it is simpler and exemplifies the benefits of being S-OFF in the first place.

Also, I am close to finishing a custom compile of busybox that contains more of the useful applets, it would be nice to have a flash of busybox as the final step in your OP for those of us who like to be fully rooted before we even log into google after a fresh start, or don't want to rely on other apps installation of "their version" of busybox.

I'll post here when it's ready and you can decide if you want to add it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
Jelly Bean 3.15.651.16

Will this method still maintain root and s-off with Jelly Bean 3.15.651.16? Thanks.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eXplicit815:
Yes, I'm interested. I would do this right now if it is supported.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
It depends on whether or not the OTA will return you to S-ON.

The OP isnt really a method. Its just putting on the stock recovery and taking the OTA. If the OTA rewrites S-OFF to S-ON you are screwed. I haven't seen anyone confirm what happens.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pbedard:
Use ota root keeper works like a charm
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
No offense, but ending your post with "haha" doesn't make me feel comfortable following your advice.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eXplicit815:
Agreed. LOL
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
You don't need OTA root keeper.

All I want to know is if you are still S-OFF after taking the OTA released today
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] P.Mobile:
aight im rooted s-off so i cant take the jelly bean OTA are we s-off folks still waiting on a dev to make a zip for us to flash?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
...yes, but were still trying to figure out if you can take the OTA or not.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bootlooper:
I am still s-off after taking ota if this helps
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pbedard:
There
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
Were you also rooted and able to keep that? I need root for TB and a few other apps.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
That does. With your confirmation I just took it as well. Hopefully with the same results.

Confirmed

H-boot 2.09 and S-off
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LaloHigh:
Let use know please
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
I edited my post.

Confirmed S-OFF status with new h-boot 2.09
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eXplicit815:
Ok, so to make sure I'm absolutely understanding this...

I have S-OFF'd my EVO, but left the ROM stock and unrooted. I can install the OTA right from my phone and still have S-OFF?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
As long as it has the stock recovery.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eXplicit815:
I think I have TWRP on my phone. Where can I get the stock?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] one_love_420:
Check/read the OP
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
I just updated my wife's phone to jelly bean and it still has maintained s-off. So, the morale of the story is that if you use this method to update you will still have s-off access. If someone needs proof let me know and I can get a screen shot later tonight.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
Everyone is correct. S-off is still maintained after the jellybean update. Everyone can relax and apply this method to receive the OTA update if they wish. You then can flash a custom recovery and then the super user app. After you do those things, you will be s-off, rooted, and with the most current jellybean update. Enjoy!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Riff76:
Viper has the stock rom out now if you don't have stock recovery, in the dev section (not original dev)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eXplicit815:
I put stock recovery on my phone, attempted the OTA, and I'm getting the little red triangle with the "!" in it. What am I missing here?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
You changed something in the core system that isn't allowing you to update. If you hold the volume up rocker it should tell you what it failed on. See this thread for more info.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1769264
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] drmclove69:
Sorry for the stupid question but im confused, so basically as long as we have stock everything on 2.13 and just have s-off i can just take the update and i wont have to any of this? Ill still have s-off?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bootlooper:
If anyone is having trouble finding the panda or racun hboot in step 16 download the ruu from the unlimited.io website and simply rename PJ75IMG.zip

I did this with no problem.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
What do you mean that you won't have to do any of this? If you are stock and s-off on 2.13 and you take the OTA update, you will still have s-off and be on jellybean. You only won't be rooted. This process is to get root access after accepting the OTA and not having to wait for a rooted ROM. Hope this helps.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] drmclove69:
Was just bout to say It only shows me tampered and locked which means I can just reunlock and flash recovery and su?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
Is there no RUU for the new stock Jelly Bean? Or does it matter which RUU I use since I'll follow the steps and am already s-off with root? Sorry, long day and dealing with multiple things at once.

Edit: I'm sorry, in my haste I did not refer back to op as I should have. I see that I'm ok to proceed. Thank you for all of your help!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] natefuhr:
I did this as well and when I get to the update in HBOOT I get the following

Parsing... [SD ZIP]

Reset HTC Debug Flag...

[1] BOOTLOADER

[2] BOOT

[3] RECOVERY

[4] SYSTEM

[5] SPLASH1

[6] USERDATA

[7] SBL2

[8] SBL3

[9] TRUST_ZONE

[10] RPM

[11] ADSP

[12] PG2FS_SPCUSTOM

[13] WCNSS

[14] TP

[15] SBL1

[16] SBL1

[17] SBL1

[18] RADIO_V2

[19] RADIO_CUST

Ummm... Am I flashing all of this or did I take your instructions too literally?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
If you are s-off you don't have to reunlock. Just flash the recovery and supersu zip.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
Thanks for the input but this is the wrong thread for this. You probably need to post in the s-off thread and not this one. Thanks though.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
Need some help. Not sure where I'm going wrong here. I had TWRP installed and removed that by installing 2.13.651.1 Stock Recovery.zip . Everything seemed ok there. I edited build.prop to pull out changes I had made for tether and app associations. As far as I know I've put everything back to normal. However, the OTA install fails. At the red exclamation point I try [power + volume up] and [power + volume up/down] but don't get the text telling me where the install has failed. I've been trying this for too many hours now and failing. Last time was a cake walk. I'm starting with step 10 as I did last time. Am I missing something or have something screwed up I'm not thinking of? Thanks.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
You could just ruu the 2.19 or whatever n download the update assuming youre s_off i tried with recovery and it didnt work
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
Wouldn't that mean that I essentially factory reset and lose all the apps and settings I'm trying to preserve with this method?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
Sadly yes unless you have TB
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
Did you try pressing the power button when you were holding the volume rockers? You could try this and see what it says.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
Yes, I've tried vol up, vol down, and both. The update fails about 1/4 of the way through. For the life of me I can't recall pulling any apps and I went back to my original build.prop from July. Stumped.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eXplicit815:
I ended up having to flash a whole new RUU back to 1.22, then taking the updates from there. I didn't mind having to reinstall everything, but now my phone says ***LOCKED*** S-OFF. Not sure if that's going to affect me in any way if I want to do anything with it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
It doesn't
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
Ok, so maybe I just opened my eyes but I think I know part of why this is failing now. It is now telling me that I'm installing update 2.13.651.1. Obviously this is not Jelly Bean. What have I done wrong?????
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
You still should be able to apply the update. Did you install a stock recovery? It actually sounds like you uninstalled some system apps or something like that. Do you remember ever removing the bloatware? If so, the best bet would be to just run the RUU and start from scratch.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
I don't believe I ever installed any bloatware as there seems to be very little to start with. I know I made two changes to build.prop that I have reverted.

I extracted and installed PJ75IMG.zip from 2.13.651.1_Stock_Recovery.zip without any issue. I went back to last night's nandroid and installed the recovery, edited build.prop back and now downloading the 3.15 update again. The update again failed.

I'm essentially following steps 10 and forward.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dangle79:
i'm very interested in trying this, i'm racun s-off and rooted with supersu, so i'm 99.9% stock. haven't touched any system apps. HOWEVER, i do run AdFree which modifies the hosts file. could that have potential to stall the OTA install? also, do i need to go into supersu and tell it to do a full unroot first or will it not get in the way?

thanks!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
I'm forced to go the same route. No idea how I got screwed but I've wasted enough time so far.

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Do you have a link to the RUU you used? I'm not sure which one to pick.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dangle79:
so i actually did all this and i'm golden.

was 2.13 bone stock except for racun s-off, TWRP and SuperSU.

before starting made a backup in TWRP, then went in and pushed the "revert" option in AdFree (which put the default hosts file back, it being a system file i wanted it to match crc), then i went into SuperSU and did the full unroot (again, wanted /system to pass check)

after that i just followed the directions in the OP starting at 10 EXCEPT i did not put the U.IO hboot back on yet. would actually like to know if that really buys me anything over the new 2.09 HBOOT. was racun s-off, so i'd imagine i'd just follow the directions here http://unlimited.io/jewel.htm in the sidebar and put the 1.19 HBOOT back on, i just don't know what that gets me since i'm already s-off (really would like if someone could answer me this though)

anyway, has to HBOOT TWRP back in then was able to re-flash SuperSU and i'm right back in business with a legit OTA and other than that little bit of prep work i didn't have to back up and restore all my apps or re-configure settings like i would have had i flashed a new stock-rooted-ROM.

i ='s happay
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
http://www.shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Jewel id just do 2.13 as long as you are s-off thats what i used then i connected to wifi after and downloaded flashed the twrp and flashed su and im stock rooted now
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
Thanks! I ended up grabbing mine there as well. I started with 1.22 and kept s-off no problem. I now show "locked" as well but no big deal there. Root was easy with SU zip and now I'm restoring apps, etc. I have TB so settings, etc will be easy enough but takes a little time. Probably not bad to start semi-fresh though. I did have an issue with provisioning data and had to call Sprint. I couldn't find my MSL and just had them force the reset for me and chatted with them about tower work.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Robbie_G:
What's the point of doing steps 16-20? Also, if they are necessary, they may need updating since I don't think lazy panda exists anymore, and has been superseded by dirty racun. The hboot may not even exist anymore in an easily flashable form.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
You do not need to unroot through supersu before accepting the OTA. Also, I run AdFree as well and it allowed me to update just fine.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
Glad everything worked. I guess I could update the process to put on a dirty racun hboot instead of the lazypanda hboot. Either one will work.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
The point of 16-20 is to allow you to flash a recovery file. The standard hboots (1.15 and beyond) don't allow you to flash a different recovery. You need to flash a hboot that allows that otherwise you won't be able to install a custom recovery and install a su zip.

Also, I just updated the process to include updating to a dirty racun hboot. All you need to do to make it a flashable zip is rename it to PJ75IMG.zip and then follow the steps before. This process is basically so you don't even need to be at a computer to take the update. Let me know if you see anything else that needs to be fixed.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Robbie_G:
I did not do those steps and flashed TWRP via a PJ75IMG.zip just fine (and then flashed SuperSU via TWRP).
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
Hmmm ... Glad to know it works that way. I tried through fastboot and obviously it didn't work. Makes sense that flashing TWRP wit a PJ75IMG.zip file works. I might update the process soon with this in mind.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dangle79:
that's what i did as well. saved a step.

still curious why i might need the other hboot in the future though. will it creep up on me when i try to install a ROM that has a custom kernel? i realize this might not be the place for this question except that the answer might allow others to opt whether or not to do those steps depending on their wants/needs
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] GoldenGlove:
I'm not sure where to ask this, but for S-ON users who are stock/rooted... what's the best way to apply this update while maintaining root?

I really just want to get the update and not deal with losing my apps/data while staying rooted. Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] grrmisfit:
I think he means people like me who are running original LTE evos that are stock rooted..no updates at all .what is best route to update and remain fully rooted/soff
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] GoldenGlove:
lol, I quoted myself with those "?" marks because no one responded.

I went ahead and got S-OFF since no one replied, but I'm still not sure what's the best route to apply this update and maintain root access.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Mr Hyde:
I got S-off, And then did the OTA update.

After that, I downloaded the newest TWRP off the TeamWin website (Used their find TWRP for your device link, and went with their bootloader method), and also downloaded the latest SuperSU.

Flashed the recovery, deleted the file, and then flashed the SuperSU file.

That was it, and I didn't need a computer. Everything was done directly on my phone. I just used es file explorer to rename, and move the files to the root directory of the sd card
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Robbie_G:
Read the OP. The answer to your question is the point of this thread.

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From what I gather, the dirty racun hboot gives you more options with fastboot via your computer, but I'm not totally sure. I haven't done it yet, but I may. Not sure if it would be good to have in case something happens to my phone while flashing things. Anyone else care to weigh in in it?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
Dirty racun does give you more options with fastboot. I have confirmed that. I am not sure what else it does yet. So far, I was able to flash a custom recovery via fastboot with the dirty racun hboot when I couldn't with the standard hboot.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dangle79:
that's probably a good enough reason for me. fastboot is far more convenient in my eyes than flashing things via the bootloader method.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ReproOne:
Is this method still safe for the update released a few days ago?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
I wouldn't do it right now. There are some issues that prevent custom recovery from working properly with the latest ROM update. At least until the recovery issues are worked out.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dallasstars:
Yep, I did an OTA and still s-off, but the touch response on TWRP is not working. Hopefully, an update will be out. It was still worth to get the promixity sensor working like normal again. I almost still prefer ICS to Jelly Bean.

Is there an alternative way to install SuperUser without having TWRP or custom recovery?

---------- Post added at 07:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:29 PM ----------

Updated to newest version of TWRP released on 2/2/13 and works again on HBOOT 2.09
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ReproOne:
I cannot find the latest TWRP (2.4). Their web site still shows the old, and GooManager doesnt download it for some reason. I still have S-OFF, but no root access it appears.

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I used the fastboot usb method and installed 2.4, and then SuperSU. It is working now.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bpdamas:
Agreed with all. I updated to 2.4.1.0 TWRP and everything is working fine. Still s-off, rooted, and updated with the most current update.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] browning:
What stock recovery is everyone using for this? I couldn't find the newest RUU to build a recovery from. Thanks.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] laie1472:
I was never aware that htc even bothered to update the stock recovery. I'm thinking you can just flash the latest stock one if you have it. Or if there wasn't one in the 3.16 ruu I'm thinking that the stock from the 3.15 will do.

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