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[Defy Android Development] xdaid:
Well, nobody is forcing you, just use a stock ROM or CM7 or whatever you want.

Personally, i have no battery drain issue (i usually reach 3 days of moderate use) and i believe these custom ROMs are either reliable and usable on daily basis. I compiled Quarx's CM10 by myself, i have occasional data drops (very few) and that's all.

It's your personal experience and it does not apply to all the users, then always remember the huge work behind this ROM and remember it is for free, so if you really can't say thanks to the developer at least move on without leaving silly comments.
[Defy Android Development] YetAnotherForumUser:
Battery, Android System, Android OS, JellyX and more...

Some more progress on the hunt-the-hog front. With the JellyX kernel I posted many about a moon ago Android System consistently ends up being the top battery consumer, usually good for 40-50% according to Settings->Battery.

More strangeness: Android OS does not show up in the list of battery users. I've rebooted the thing twice (more on that later) to see whether this makes a change. It doesn't. Android System ends up floating to the top, mostly by virtue of its supposed tendency to keep the phone awake (6h 8m over a period of 2d 22h). Seems clear-cut... or does it?

Actual battery consumption is actually quite acceptable, in about two days it went from 100% to 62%.

More important than all this is the fact that today the phone refused to connect outgoing calls. I could call, the thing said 'calling' but no call went through. After rebooting it all worked again. This was after an uptime of about 13 hours.

As to whether 2.6.32.60/JellyX really makes the phone use more power by pushing Android Services to the top of the list I can not be certain. It is also possible that the difference comes down to the way power consumption is reported. I'm back on 2.6.32.9 to see how much power it uses in the same timeframe. Even though power consumption is a function with many variables - signal strength being an important factor - it might show some more light on the veracity of the (relative) power hogging nature of 2.6.32.60/JellyX.

Which leaves the problem of outgoing calls more or less silently failing. Has anyone here experienced this? If so, which kernel were you using at the time of failure?
[Defy Android Development] fattest:
I've had two or three experiences where the audio would drop off during a call permanently, afterwards it would sound like putting a seashell to your ear. I have to end the call and redial to get audio back. Is this the problem you're describing? At the time I was likely using the 1109 Quarx ROM/custom kernel
[Defy Android Development] YetAnotherForumUser:
No, that is something else. The problem I describe is related to the actual outgoing call which just did not show up on the receiving end. Dialing a number seemed to work - the phone claimed it was 'calling' - but no call was placed. I tested this by calling another phone which was lying right next to me. It did not ring. After rebooting the Defy and calling again it worked as intended, ie. the phone I called did ring.
[Defy Android Development] Floydroider:
People are saying that the Android OS process is draining lots of power, but I'm on the latest build and the screen is what shows huge power consumption.
[Defy Android Development] farkasjanos.james:
battery draining

Hi

I made a full data/cache/dalvic wipe, flashed a nordic 2.2.2 rom via rsdlite, installed 01.10 cm10 (by quarx with my modifications) and curious kernel-b773d4b651-without-666db01d50 and 2012.07.26 gapps pack. I made a full data/cache/dalvic wipe before/after on each procedure. Backed up my apps and data with titanium backup (system app's data too).

Uptime 23h22m25s and battery level is 77% now.

Looks like i have no problem with battery almost.

Google now is not running. I don't no why (titanium backup), but its allright if my battery ok.
[Defy Android Development] Rawwr:
Please help me

I want to install ics on my defy

its running 2.2 stock

Please

How to root

Unlock bootloader

Kernel link

And the rom's link

I want 4.0.4 with toggle switches in notification panel

Please help :(
[Defy Android Development] cyrusct82:
This is the panic 3G RIL(connectivity problem, data drop etc.) that some of us are experiencing(when strikes you there is no escape :p). And is in every Rom no matter if is CM7,CM10..... The only difference is that in stock Rom when this happens there is an auto reboot and in maniac103 Cm7 and Fuzz CM7 and CMX newer builds is implemented the bp panic that gives you a notification and an option to reboot after 1 min when is happening.

Read the last pages of this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=26957900
[Defy Android Development] kangi26:
This is the wrong place to post a question like this. This thread is for CM10 JB, not ICS. Look around in the Q&A section and if you cannot find anything there from searching, THEN post something
[Defy Android Development] Rawwr:
sorry :(
[Defy Android Development] YetAnotherForumUser:
Well, I can be sure that it is not a 3G problem since my phone was switched to 2G only... It also concerned a GSM phone call, not a data connection. Thus far I haven't seen anything like the aforementioned problem on this phone. In other words I don't think this was the notorious 'connectivity problem'. It could well be a connecivity problem between the phone and radio of another sorts but I would not lump these together immediately.

---------- Post added at 11:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:12 AM ----------

How much screen time? What was that phone running? It is rather hard for the screen to use more power than it needs for display and backlight purposes so the power has gone somewhere else. A runaway native process in the background (mediascanner?) is a more likely culprit.
[Defy Android Development] irekd:
Have a look at my posting #15009 and a next after mine posting by Okij. It seems we had similar to yours symptoms. I was using Sevenrock's 20121109 kernel while Okij your (YetAnotherForumUser's) 20130111 at that time. I hope it'll help you to investigate the problem somehow.

Edit: I use 2G only.
[Defy Android Development] cyrusct82:
I have the same problem as you but only in 3g, in 2g no problem.
[Defy Android Development] phobos_1984:
Hi guys! I'm on latest Quarx (10/01) with sevenrock's kernel. It is two days that any app I try to install/update, it tells me that I don't have enogh space. According to Titanium Backup I have: 26.7 MB of ROM memory; 143 MB of system memory and 2.82 GB of sd card... Some suggestions?
[Defy Android Development] LetoKynes:
Try free up some space on your sd card
[Defy Android Development] phobos_1984:
beg a pardon! 2.82 GB!!!
[Defy Android Development] DingoDingo:
I had this problem for long time, few times a day, tried many things, but after I got rid of JuiceDefender and decided to keep wifi and 2G/3G connection all the time, never happened again, for more then month. So it seems it is panic 3G RIL after all.

Sent from my MB526
[Defy Android Development] xdaid:
It's quite hard running out of space on our defy but, just to make sure, do the following:

Open up the terminal emulator and type "df" [enter].

In the table look for the line which starts with "/data" and check the value in the "Free" column.

If you really have no/few free space then the only solution is removing some apps or clearing some apps' data.
[Defy Android Development] LetoKynes:
Hi I've done some searching for you..

First thing you can try:-

If that doesn't work, try re-flash latest gapps
[Defy Android Development] YetAnotherForumUser:
Check[FONT="Monospace, Courier New"] /data/app[/FONT] for an orphaned .odex file related to the app you're trying to install. If you find any orphaned .odex files you can remove them (or move them to /sdcard/backup if you're unsure).

An orphaned .odex file is a file with that extension without an accompanying similarly-named .apk. One of the ways of acquiring such orhpans is the use of 'patching' apps (LuckyPatcher and its ilk).

---------- Post added at 05:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:42 PM ----------

That looks like the same problem I had. Add the combination of sevenrock's latest build + 'my' latest JellyX to the list.

It is of course very much possible that this is not a kernel-related problem as it occurs in several different kernels which did not give rise to these problems before.
[Defy Android Development] phobos_1984:
141 MB...

tried to delete cache and data from Play Sotre, no luck.

No *.odex files, just *.apk of my apps.
[Defy Android Development] vaserbanix:
chech data/tombstone/....

and see if you have a huge file in it

if is, delete it and reboot the phone

maybe will help
[Defy Android Development] torsoen:
Hi all,

I have a defy, but i dont know wich bootloader, how can i figure it out?

Model MB525

Adroid .2.2.2

My kernel is 2.6.32.9-ga28fcc4fdc376@zch68lnxdroid12 #1

BP flex: ucajrdnemarab1b80aa03a.0r

APfelx: gas_emea_usajrdnfryurtnord_p003

Thanks
[Defy Android Development] domokos:
$ uptime

up time: 18 days, 23:00:20, idle time: 14 days, 10:20:51, sleep time: 18:49:40

$ uname -a

Linux localhost 2.6.32.60-JellyX #1 PREEMPT Mon Jan 21 19:51:54 CET 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux

$ free

total used free shared buffers

Mem: 488532 480972 7560 0 560

-/+ buffers: 480412 8120

Swap: 87928 87928 0

$

No lags, fast, smooth. No ringtone issue: just works. My wife has 2 additional days uptime. Same device, rom & kernel.
[Defy Android Development] MazaMoto:
Been using Sevenrock's Jan 27 2013 build with old kernel & having uptime of over 15 Days & no ringtone bug observed.

However, below are my observations with this build:

1. Network drops frequently

2. Phone sometime becomes very laggy (I just kill all apps using system panel instead of taking reboot)

3. Touch response goes haywire (Ghost touch issue) frequently than the stock CM10 (Latest) nightly by Quarx.

4. Battery backup is more or less similar to Quarx nightly. Depletes faster when data is on.

Overall, very happy with build apart from network & touch screen related issues.

Thanks:good:
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
bl4 :)
[Defy Android Development] phobos_1984:
no, didn't help...
[Defy Android Development] Pedro Liberal:
Wich build?
[Defy Android Development] domokos:
$ uptime

up time: 18 days, 23:00:20, idle time: 14 days, 10:20:51, sleep time: 18:49:40

$ uname -a

Linux localhost 2.6.32.60-JellyX #1 PREEMPT Mon Jan 21 19:51:54 CET 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux

$ free

total used free shared buffers

Mem: 488532 480972 7560 0 560

-/+ buffers: 480412 8120

Swap: 87928 87928 0

$

No lags, fast, smooth. No ringtone issue: just works. My wife has 2 additional days uptime. Same device, rom & kernel.

Build 12-31-2012
[Defy Android Development] mmbytes:
Dear all,

I saw a lot of discussion about the battery drain on the tweaked Quarx builds like sevenrock's, but while I'm fine having to turn it off at night and recharge it I'm quite annoyed about the network drops during the day. Are these resolved for the people who only report battery problems?
[Defy Android Development] Stupidchavs:
I had network drops using sevenrocks build, until I changed my baseband to the correct one for my region and network. I was operating on a central europe band, when I should have been on T-mobile UK 2.51.

No network drops since switching, and the battery is very satisfactory, better than in the latest Quarx build although this is opinion rather than fact as I haven't tracked my battery usage.
[Defy Android Development] configuration:
I currently am on 17 november Quarx build with no custom kernel.

Say, if I want to try out Sevenrocks build: Which ROM should I download combined with which Kernel?

I saw the posts with the builds and kernels and updates but I just can't seem to find them with the search function.

Furthermore, If I just backup everything in CWM recovery, can I just restore my backup if some things don't work as expected with Sevenrock's buid?

Thanks in advance.
[Defy Android Development] sevenrock:
My ROM contains an older Quarx kernel along with

binaries based on current git which solve the ringtone

bug for me, see this for a content description.

UncleDan (thx!) provides a mirror for my ROMs:

http://www.uncledan.it/android-files/index.php?dir=CM10|sevenrock-2ndboot-nightly-defy(plus)|&sub=2
[Defy Android Development] configuration:
Thanks for the quick reply!

Does it also work with MB525?
[Defy Android Development] okij:
JuiceDefender under CM10

I can report that I have much less problems with CM10 since I stopped using JuiceDefender about 2 weeks ago.

I still have occasional reboots about once a week, but I don't lose mobile or wifi connection anymore, as well as the "no prompt bug" I experienced with the Terminal Emulator now seems to be solved.

DingoDingo reported in his post #15444 also about problems with JuiceDefender, so it is well worth a try disabling it if anyone has problems with it under CM10.

I'm not sure if it's a bug in JuiceDefender or in CM10. It might be that CM10 doesn't like to have wifi and/or mobile data have switched off and on every 15 minutes (which is what JD does to save battery).

BTW, I still have a good battery life even without JuiceDefender.

I'm currently on sevenrock's latest build because I had one severe reboot with JellyX kernel which deleted my data partition. Luckily I had a backup. :)
[Defy Android Development] sevenrock:
The ROMs provided by Quarx are both for MB525 & MB526.

My ROMs are based on Quarx code, so they are also usable

with both models. Think of my ROM as a repack of the ROMs

provided by Quarx: Current binaries with an older kernel.
[Defy Android Development] configuration:
Ok, I knew Quarx his builds are for MB525 & MB526.

I didn't know 100% sure if your ROM's also were for both models.

Better safe than sorry I guess.

Thank you again Sevenrock, I'll post my findings here.

EDIT: One more question: If I want to restore my previous Quarx 17 November build, do I need to restore the Kernel? Or can I just reload my Nandroid backup in CWM?
[Defy Android Development] Feche:
just nandroid
[Defy Android Development] przemhb:
Stuck at red moto logo after installing multiboot 0.8

I'd like to install multiboot 0.8, but something wrong happens. My Defy displays just red Motorola logo for some time, then flashes a display for a second and once again displays red Motorola logo... Led stays inactive all the time.

I've wiped data, cache, dalvik before installation of a CM10-20121229. Started CM10, it booted fine. Then I have rebooted into recovery and installed gapps and multiboot0.8. After restarting my Defy went into bootloop. I can access stock recovery. Wiping cache and data does not help here.

What went wrong? How to properly install multiboot for CM10?
[Defy Android Development] niksy+:
Multiboot doesn't support 2nd-boot roms (aka custom kernel roms) ;)
[Defy Android Development] przemhb:
Thanks for your reply.

Is there a chance it will change? Or maybe there's some wall?

How stable or free of significant bugs 24.09 build was?

EDIT: According to this it's possible to have 2nd-boot system in NAND and multiboot others. And that's I'm trying to achieve. Are you sure this won't work, and multiboot is to blame?
[Defy Android Development] Quarx:
I'm lost posts about fix ringtone, which commits should be reverted?

or maybe use Blechd0se by default?
[Defy Android Development] ktmbikerman:
Is this the post you're looking for?
[Defy Android Development] ccav2000:
Blechd0se has problems too, the only kernel that works without the ring tone bug without having blank screen issues or other problems is the kernel that sevenrock compiles.
[Defy Android Development] wowjam:
Currently I'm using cm10.

How can I back to cm7?

I can't remember what I did when I update this one. Could you guide me please? thanks.
[Defy Android Development] d3xt3r:
Just format your partition to ext3 via boot menu, n then flash the ROM and gapps...n you are good to go:thumbup:
[Defy Android Development] nostupidthing:
i believe yafu's kernel also doesn't have the ringtone problem...?
[Defy Android Development] ccav2000:
Although that seems to be true from his reports, there are also reports of that kernel having the "blank screen" problem. Hence it is not reliable enough for general usage.
[Defy Android Development] piposek:
RTSP issue

UPnP/DLNA is not important for me. I am interested to RTSP transfers and this protocol is totally dead.

1. It was correct on original Defy+ rom from Motorola.

2. There was problem with keep-alive packets on CM7 rom. Defy not sent these packets and streams were stopped by server side (timeout) after cca 90 seconds.

3. From CM9 (and newer including actual CM10) is RTSP tottaly dead. Stream playing not start and common error logs from apps indicating blocked 554 port (GPRS, 3G, Wi-fi, USB). But port is not blocked - streams working perfectly on another phones with same connections.

How to fix? Please help.
[Defy Android Development] sevenrock:
This working kernel tree from Quarx (9771da3ef4eaacec0d2340c6d5efdff507c774a4)

is dated Nov 9th, 2012.

On Nov 14th, 2012 Quarx bumped the kernel version from 2.6.32.9 to 2.6.32.60:

https://github.com/Quarx2k/jordan-kernel/commit/aebfcfad2c24878495e14a859529355ff6d9ecdf, this introduced the ringtone bug.

The diff is 1,5MB in size, I tried shortly to hunt for the ringtone bug there,

but failed: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36672596&postcount=14904
[Defy Android Development] gkkovacs:
I have compared three different CM10 builds recently, after full wipes.

CM10-20130110-NIGHTLY by Quarx is the most stable, but sometimes exhibits the ringtone bug which goes together with increased memory load and lagging. Battery consumption is much higher than early November 2012 builds (Android OS and Screen are the main offenders).

CM10-20130209-UNOFFICIAL by Sevenrock using the older 2.6.32-9 kernel has similar battery consumption, no ringtone bug but minor call issues (some hangups).

CM10-20130121-UNOFFICIAL Linaro compiled build by wskelly has serious lags, some minor app incompatibility, serious phone problems (often no ringing, lot of spontaneous hangups), and the highest battery consumption of the three.

What I really miss from all three:

- reliable video recording (720p if possible)

- 1% hourly battery drop while idle (wi-fi on)

- memory lock-in for phone app

I always install with data backup >> full wipe ext4 >> install cm10 + minimal gapps + 4.2 apps >> data restore >> cache+dalvik wipe.
[Defy Android Development] molchmolch:
Strangely my desktop-clock stopped working. It hangs on 12:38 while the lockscreen-clock shows the correct actual time.

The alarm functions as it should.

I deleted the clocks cache and stopped the clock, but didn't help...

I'm on sevenrocks latest unofficial (great) build...

greetings

Molch
[Defy Android Development] configuration:
Btw, Is a full wipe necessary to install a new CM10 build Quarx -> Quarx or Quarx -> Sevenrock?
[Defy Android Development] sevenrock:
Same here sometimes, afaik no known solution.
[Defy Android Development] Vitor_Hugo:
Happened here few times (Quarx's build and Kernel from December 23rd), the only fix is restart the phone.
[Defy Android Development] moqua:
new build online.. ;)

http://quarx2k.ru/cm10-2ndboot-nightly-defy(+)/CM10-20130217-NIGHTLY-mb526.zip
[Defy Android Development] molchmolch:
AW: [JB] CM10 Android 4.1.2 for the Defy(+)

After 4h switched back to normal....
[Defy Android Development] d3xt3r:
changelog

changelog for the new build please:D
[Defy Android Development] ccav2000:
Not sure what Quarx's intentions were but the new build still has the 2.6.32.60 kernel. I'm suspicious about the ringtone bug...
[Defy Android Development] bone101:
AW: [JB] CM10 Android 4.1.2 for the Defy(+)

Look and we will see..

MB525 red lense
[Defy Android Development] erickxd:
Everything perfect so far with 20130217.

The speed is amazing, really.

(I did a Clean Install)

Thanks!
[Defy Android Development] Quarx:
I'm not sure about ringtone.. will see.

This build should increase performance of camera.

Added rgnd service.
[Defy Android Development] veddandekar:
Just letting u know quarx that in the op the build is labeled as "17.12" when its "17.02" :D

Downloading will flash it soon :)
[Defy Android Development] d3xt3r:
sorry if you find me nosy or nooby, but what performance will be increased????:confused:
[Defy Android Development] arekmelerski:
i think Rngd service improve performace
[Defy Android Development] bone101:
AW: [JB] CM10 Android 4.1.2 for the Defy(+)

MB525 red lense
[Defy Android Development] sevenrock:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
[Defy Android Development] xarcoft:
Yeah, rngd service improves lag reduction with entropy generator but not performance of camera.

In what sort of way we'll see that improvement?

Sorry but can't see it.
[Defy Android Development] JayH5:
rngd service

Quarx, I think you've made a typo a couple of times...;)

rngd : http://linux.die.net/man/8/rngd

I'm guessing rngd is supposed to stand for random number generator - device. So we should now be making use of the hardware random number generator on the OMAP 3.

I'm not sure exactly where this will improve performance. Definitely in anywhere that uses encryption, provided that the service is used. I suppose maybe some hashing, compression...

Thanks, Quarx, for all your work :good:
[Defy Android Development] sevenrock:
I guess rngd and camera patches are unrelated. This is the camera patch:

https://github.com/Quarx2k/android_...mmit/4d8257daeb9c4fe3d0dc84df7e427e4bcf18a492

---------- Post added at 10:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:18 PM ----------

Do you know the seeder app? Check this thread for a lengthy discussion

about the pro and cons regardnig rngd stuff:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
[Defy Android Development] JayH5:
Meh.. I don't know about this IO Scheduler optimization stuff. I'll admit it's a complicated problem and I'm not a Linux kernel engineer or anything, but it seems a bit like fool's gold. The flash memory in most smartphones is well... pretty crap.. cheap eMMC stuff. You can optimize the IO but only make so much out of what you've got.

From the Seeder thread: "There has been a large amount of speculation on why/if this actually improves performance on ICS+ devices."

But yeah, nice to have but don't expect miracles. Now these camera improvements look potentially more concrete...
[Defy Android Development] 01ago:
Bug report: on 1702 build, change of governor in Performance menu causes reboot.
[Defy Android Development] talrasha007:
according to quarx's github, 17.02 build fixed ghost touch issue. that's great.
[Defy Android Development] Kayant:
unfortunately not yet because that patch has also been in the 2.6.32 that was default for 4.1.2 roms for months

https://github.com/Quarx2k/jordan-kernel/commit/dd4c9f17993f923eb4b1a14ad9228205be79c1a9
[Defy Android Development] veddandekar:
WAIT A SECOND.. So my ghost touch issues aren't hardware related?! yes!!! I though I would be stuck with them forever! :D :fingers-crossed:
[Defy Android Development] d3xt3r:
Hey when the 3x k kernel will be fully stable, will that be integrated in cm10 too or just it's for cm10.1???
[Defy Android Development] cyrusct82:
No ETA.

Those are the rules.
[Defy Android Development] sa3e1:
If you read carefully, he was not asking ETA...
[Defy Android Development] sbE:
LOL...maxdiablodefy doesn't ask for ETA.
[Defy Android Development] d3xt3r:
If you read the post carefully, I asked will the kernel be integrated in cm10 too... Even I know the rules
[Defy Android Development] wowjam:
Big thanks~ The partition should be ext3. I forgot it. :)