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[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
You can if you have smart flash turned on in 4ext OR if you have s-off.

What Roms are people having good experiences with the badass governor with? I finally have it working kinda properly with energy rom, but there's still a big drain issue.. and if anyone wants a tip to get it working properly with energy, let me know.

At the moment it either isn't charging or it is draining faster than it can charge.. so if there is a rom where this isn't an issue, I'm quite interested.
[HTC Amaze 4G] bos2333:
I've had great success with it so far and I'm on speed rom 5.1 still. Been running v5.0 since it came out, badass gov OC'd to 1600 min at 384. I get 16 hours of moderate to heavy use and at the end of the day still have at least 20% left.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
what do you consider to be moderate/heavy usage? what's your total screen on time at the end of the day?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Sk8trfred:
I'm running energy rom but no drain issues like you. Just not good life at all 45 mins screen time yesterday but it did charge last night.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
energy rom here too... yesterday I got about 13.5hrs before it completely shut off on me, what I would call very light usage... maybe 2hrs of screen on time... only a couple short calls and a few texts... almost no web browsing... mainly just fiddling with settings and stuff (screen on time)

edit: I'm also underclocked @ 1.2Ghz (192Mhz min), and I've had some random reboots (even after going back to stock voltages)
[HTC Amaze 4G] thejrp:
Battery yesterday on Energy Rom ( badass 1.674 / 384 cfq ) 0.5a

14.5 hours 47% battery left

50 mins of screen time couple of short phone calls. Mostly on wifi

Was out of cell service for 4hours +

I do have Juice Defender active.
[HTC Amaze 4G] bos2333:
It's tough to say because I don't log it usually. I am on wifi calling most of the day, and working, but probably over 100 texts, and fair amount of background syncing, facebook, xda, and at the end of the day nearly 3-4 hours of almost continuous internet surfing and such. Not typically any music or netflix streaming, but overall I have been very happy with the kernel. No crazy battery jumps, just very smooth overall.

With light usage I lose about 1% an hour. Also screen brightness is set about 20%.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
thanks for your input... looks like I need to do some tweaking then... or maybe I should say "un-tweaking" lol... I keep my screen brightness around the same level... next time you get ready to plug-in to charge, check your screen on time if you've met your own criteria for "heavy" usage... I'm curious =)
[HTC Amaze 4G] bos2333:
Well I would say moderate, but there have been times that I've used it more without issue...definitely not anything near the boot being able to hold a charge issues.
[HTC Amaze 4G] derride8:
Quick question. Sending multimedia message have anything to do with kernel?
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
No.
[HTC Amaze 4G] derride8:
Okay, thanks
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
I just put in a requrest to have HTC release the compat-wireless source to the htcdev website. We'll see what they say. I assume I'll get a form letter for the standard 90-120 days.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
going to have to go back to stock... just can't handle the battery drain... it's not too bad for light usage... but anything more and I can only get about 6hrs out of it... 0.5a - not sure if you guys can benefit from any logcats, but if so, please let me know what would help as far as battery is concerned...
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
I tweeted them as well about it. They usually respond on twitter in about a week or two after you mention them.
[HTC Amaze 4G] brainbone:
You may want to let them know that every day they delay, they are in violation of GPL.

They will often give the excuse that they need to clean out any "proprietary" code from the source before they release it, but, from what I understand, that statement in itself is a violation of GPL. That work must be done BEFORE any binaries are released. Source code to build identical binaries of all their GPL based binaries must be available when their GPL based binaries are delivered, not 120 days after, and if they have removed any "proprietary code" from the source code that build the GPL based binaries, that code is no longer the same source code that built it. They are just banking on the assumption that no-one of consequence is going to hold their feet to the fire.

Edit:

Here's a link with someone else challenging HTC on similar grounds:

http://users.livejournal.com/joshua_/41833.html

Looks like it's a habitual problem with HTC. One that will likely take a prolonged lawsuit to fully sort out. Since it's such a systemic problem with HTC, perhaps FSF would be interested in taking action?

Edit2:

If you read the full thread (all posts) of the previous link, and then the link below, it looks like he did actually net a positive result with HTC after contacting FSF for GPL clarification, and holding HTCs feet to the fire:

http://users.livejournal.com/joshua_/42059.html

Possibly a good model to follow when requesting source from HTC going forward?

Edit3:

It looks like you need to remind HTC of their GPL obligations on every release:

http://users.livejournal.com/joshua_/43185.html
[HTC Amaze 4G] mr.bobharris:
<---- unlocked (thanks hasoon2000), s-on (im chicken), project butter (which is all kinds of awesome)

backup

flashed 0.5k initially with just a dalvik wipe, fixed permissions before rebooting just for fun. no wi-fi, worked fine otherwise. was a heavy use day for me, and i definitely noticed some improved battery life compared to normal.

flashed 0.5a about an hour ago, same easy install and touch config was fine, wi-fi working, overclocking is fun...

thanks everyone for helping me learn to love this poor bastard of a phone.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Sk8trfred:
Running energy Rom 2hrs 15mins screen on
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Hasoon maybe the post above with the htc compliance thing going on will help us get our source released? I know your just as good if not better at writing, persistent and knowledgeable about our device and what we need? Please I believe you will be the hero lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
I'll look into it. I really don't want to read right now. I read enough for school as is! lol. I'll look at it later.
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
Thanks for those links, somewhat eye opening.

I've decided to move discussion of this (WiFi/GPL) to Hasoons ICS thread, and leave this to Kozmik's kernel specific discussion.

Devs who look at ICS Source. Look here!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Trewyy:
My battery life is definitely improved over stock kernel. Can anyone explain why my battery just sucks in general? This is not the fault of kozmikruby kernel, there must be an issue with my phone. It's been this way since the first time I turned it on. Im running arhd 3.0.0.

I have 2hour 10minute screen on time. Thanks!

Trewyy
[HTC Amaze 4G] tofuwrice:
Most likely faulty battery imo. I had horrible battery life and random reboots because of a faulty battery. I just bought a few anker batteries and literally every problem disappeared and now I average around ~3 hours on screen time at 20% brightness. I've gotten 4 hours of on screen time at 0% brightness. This is on a 4g network only with 3 bars and energy rom .

I see so many people here complaining about bad battery life because of roms or kernels. It could just be a faulty battery. Also there's a lot that can affect battery life. Just because you flashed a new kernel/rom and your battery drains faster doesn't mean its the kernel or rom fault. Most people don't exactly follow scientific procedures for testing out (no control) if its actually the rom/kernel fault but their own.
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
This really isn't something to discuss in his thread, but look at your AWAKE time - it is CONSTANTLY awake. There's an app called better battery stats, it shows which apps are causing wakelock - using that app, you can figure out what app is keeping your phone awake constantly. It is 100% the problem, not that battery.. it could be ONE app doing that, most likely because it is badly written, or because you have some setting setup so it doesn't allow it to sleep..

Find betterbatterystats on xda, might be in play store too.. but if you need help using it, definitely find the xda thread for it, it explains all.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
yeah, your awake time should correspond fairly closely to your screen on time... with little blips here and there... but solid on like that = dead battery fast!
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Quick question I'm thinking that bad ass is a governor and I should be able to select it right? When I use system tuner or any other cpu app it doesn't show?
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
You didn't flash my kernel or the flash didn't take. Make sure you're on an insecure boot.img before flashing.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
So the first time I flashed it did take I remember seeing it and applying it. Then felt battery was draining to quick so I wanted to try sports kernel.

I flashed another Rom bc I also wanted to try a different Rom and I thought the stock kernel would be flashed at the same time. Then I flashed sports kernel at this point I didn't see the bad ass option so idk if his has it included.

I wanted to go back to yours so bc of all this flashing I just ruu my phone back to stock everything to eliminate any problems. I flashed nrgs stock Rom booted then flashed your kernel the log looked normal like the first time and I thought it flashed well Now you say it might not have flashed or I need an unsecured boot which I thought I had by flashing a custom Rom. Please advise
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
Are you s-off?
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Yes I am the very first time I flashed it worked any other time it hasn't. I know I'm doing something wrong I just don't know what.

S off

4ext

Nrg stock Rom
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
No clue. Not a kernel issue.

Try flashing the stock from in my op then flash my kernel. Should work.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Weird I know. Ok will try. Now if I ever flash 'any' kernel and want to revert to stock again can I flash the stock from your op that your telling me about right now?
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
I'm not going to tell or guarantee anything. As my installer state my kernel may blow your phone up ;) flash at your own risk.
[HTC Amaze 4G] masondoctorjt:
Any plans of implementing sweep2wake once any other kinks are worked out?
[HTC Amaze 4G] crazypotato:
so, is HTC not releasing the full wifi source to us? It seems like we can still compile it. Are there anything stopping us from porting the kernel to AOSP?
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
Yes. Already working on it ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Lol thanks for the quick replies and help but the more weirdness happened.

I downloaded ruby stock thru my phone to make sure it was a good download and it was. Flashed went well rebooted and it got stuck on boot screen for like 7 min then I pressed power + up+ down volume keys to get a last kmsg and it also got stuck on boot. Pulled battery tried flashing a boot back up I had in 4ext folder but it said no zip in this directory as I was selection it. Then ultimately I reflashed nrg Rom without wiping anything finally booted up.

All these times I flashed they seemed like they flashed with no problems except nothing happened.

Anybody else experience similar problems?
[HTC Amaze 4G] masondoctorjt:
Awesome. Thanks. I haven't started using a custom kernel on this phone yet, but I will soon. I've had a sod, and a reboot and want to track that down before I flash a custom kernel.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
So now it's working? I don't understand but it works now
[HTC Amaze 4G] laggo:
<3 koz and <3 sweep2wake!!! Keep up the awesome work!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Flipnfr3ak:
I'm tryin to read the thread but my phone right isn't loading very well......which kernel do I use? A b c d etc.....which is the best one right now? I'm redoing my phone that's y
[HTC Amaze 4G] Trewyy:
I bought the app for my phone. Thanks for the help!

Trewyy
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
5a I also re did my phone
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
5a is the current stable build. Other ones are listed for wifi testing ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
Just an fyi, before our kernel got released or before I got you over here, there was a request in the general section for the swipe to wake feature, made by a very lovely woman.. she wanted your feature a long time now ;)

I figured out how to get the energy rom working properly, in his init.post_boot.sh file the ondemand lines are identical to yours and just need to be commented out.. and it still wouldn't default to Badass, but set badass with system tuner all issues went away..

There's quite a bit of drain if wifi is left on, it constantly disconnects, but I only use it to update market apps for the most part anyways, so I leave it off and I'm happy. :)

Sent from my nook color until my broke college student azz can afford the new nexus 7 tablet..
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
Just so we are clear. Sweep2wake is a feature developed by showp1984. I would just be porting his code over to our touch screen driver.

I'll have my installer fix the compatibility with energy rom in my next stable release.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Yay! :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
Then I'll have to go and throw him a thanks or two, but thanks for being willing.. it is a very cool feature, and on top of that it seems like our power button has to get mashed REALLY hard and has gotten worse over time- I remember others mentioning this too.. so it will possibly save our power button a bit :)

Also, I'm not sure if people are clicking the thanks/donate button enough to show you how much we all appreciate the work you are doing, but I can tell you, we DO appreciate it- even without a device you've done quite a bit, and that shows some real talent!
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Sports kernel includes badass. Something is going on with your method/phone. It doesn't sound like either one flashed correctly.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Yes but it works now and since sport said he will not update his anymore then I'm staying here. So the only difference I think was that at the last page of flashing I selected no fur htc dev unlock so that I can go back to 4ext. Even tho my boot loader is locked s off eng hboot. Before I was selecting yes and it would directly restart the phone but the flash somehow was not taking. I'll have to test more later
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Can you post a thread or somewhere on what you did for those running nrgs Rom please thank you
[HTC Amaze 4G] Sk8trfred:
All I did was flash the Rom in 4ext nothing special I am s-off but I did have to set badass in system tuner because apparently it didn't take
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
ROM issue. I'll be putting in a compatibility script to fix issued with this ROM in the future.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Sk8trfred:
Sweet. Glad to see some progress happening on this could be amazing phone
[HTC Amaze 4G] gideo:
I s offed last night and wanted to try this kernel but I can't get it to stick.tried multiple wipes and re-flashes of Rom and kernel. I use super sayn 2,can't seem to figure it out.Is it a capability issue with the Rom ,or is it that I'm a tard and doing something wrong "which is more likely the cause"
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
Could be all 3 lol. Jk, May just be a ROM issue it's working good with speed ROM 6.0.

Sent from the morgue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] gideo:
Yea,I can't get nightmare kernel to flash either and that was fine before I s off.
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
Sounds like you need to unlock your bootloader. Does it say locked. Unlocked or japunta something or other?
[HTC Amaze 4G] gideo:
It says juopunutbear.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
I'm boatloader locked but s off and mine worked.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
At the last option when restarting what are you selecting?
[HTC Amaze 4G] gideo:
Stay in recovery
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Might be the rom I was also having issues on that rom. Try a different Rom or ask other users of that rom
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
Select reboot.
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
I'm going to try another WiFi test tomorrow. It will replace your WiFi firmware so only flash it if you're willing to reflash the ROM if it doesn't work.

I'll post a warning again when I release it as well.
[HTC Amaze 4G] gideo:
Tryed that still no go.
[HTC Amaze 4G] crose948:
I dont know what you are trying But the wifi in the original 5.0 that people had to use vol. and power buttons to install it work 100 % all others I have tried wifi gets stuck turning on, so you need to go back and look at 5.0 with out the updated touch on the installer, seems the installer or you left something out wile updating it to 5.0a-k
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
5 and 5a WiFi work because I committed in the WiFi hack that sportsstar came up with. All other builds are an attempt at getting WiFi to work the right way.
[HTC Amaze 4G] gideo:
Flashed boot image from energy Rom then rebooted into recovery and flashed your kernel and it took.Can't explain it but ok,it worked.
[HTC Amaze 4G] heyjoe66:
got a reboot today on 0.5a after 3-4 days of usage
[HTC Amaze 4G] zPacKRat:
Ovetclocked or undervolted?
[HTC Amaze 4G] heyjoe66:
oh, totally forgot . UV -37.5

reboot happened in sleep
[HTC Amaze 4G] Krazex2005:
I truly admire your dedication, Tim. Thanks for helping amaze owners.
[HTC Amaze 4G] crose948:
Im lost

I do not see or know why you are building so many test kernels, is there something I missed in one of the posts, 5.0 works flawlessly with the speed rom 6.0- jelly bean edition, WiFi and Bluetooth work. only prob. with 5.0 is you have to use vol. and power keys to install / use the installer, no big deal to me with a perfectly working kernel.....so what is wrong with it that I may be missing?
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
Yes, v5 was built with a hack to allow you to use the binary drivers shipped by HTC for WiFi.

All the test kernels are trying to get WiFi to work with drivers build from open-source code.
[HTC Amaze 4G] crose948:
Ah OK thank you. but silly question, why fix what is not broken? What is wrong with the HTC drivers?:fingers-crossed:
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
Its broken because drivers should be compiled at the same time as the kernel. Also if you want any feature that requires a module it probably won't work with the hack.

It is broken. If it wasn't then compiling from source would have been flawless the first build ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] crose948:
ok well I dont know, bluetooth works for phone and music,and voice apps, wifi works with router, portable wifi works to connect my phone as a hot spot for computer, so mine must not be broken
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
I added Wifi Test Build 0.5n in the OP.

If someone is brave and wants to flash it feel free. Just remember, if wifi doesn't work you will have to reflash the rom you're on to restore the firmware back to how it was.
[HTC Amaze 4G] crose948:
Ill try right now as soon as downloads done:cowboy:
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
Ok. To end this discussion. It is working because 0.5 and 0.5a have a hack to use the existing modules provided by HTC. This is NOT how it should be done. It is broken until we are able to compile our own modules. That is what we are testing.

Also with the wifi hack modules that are compiled in the kernel may or may not work because we are using a hack to use the old modules by HTC.
[HTC Amaze 4G] crose948:
re booting now, x your fingers

---------- Post added at 06:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:23 PM ----------

and so far - a no go, stuck on "turning on wifi"

---------- Post added at 06:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:28 PM ----------

ya hope you were not waiting for another update, I am reroming, my backup, it was stuck on the wifi turning on screen.

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o snap, right as my phone was rebooting, wifi turned on , but with the 5.0 I flashed after the 5N to see what it would do. the 5n just made wif and bluetooth not turn on

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so should I take the silence as you don't trust my judgement or what I say on the test 5n, thats cool, im a certified auto mech-scuba diver-opota firearmed, concealed carry holder, 42 YO, with 2 kids, who's done armed security for 20 years,
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
Thanks for the update.

I have a life as well. If you don't get a response immediately then do not take offense. Any attitude is highly unappreciated.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Thank you to crose and thank you to kozmick. If I'm correct the reason we want open source drivers is bc we need it for aosp and cm9.

Edit : I also wanted to add how amazing I've now started to get battery life for the first time ever. And I don't even know how to adjust my kernel all I did was undervolt -12.5 and set my governor to conservative and wow with heavy usage even better with no usage. This is also using a battery that was giving me random reboots w/o your kernel and was going to trash.

I can't wait to use silentbdeadly mod on this kernel for nrgs Rom.

Once you update will his mod still work or ?
[HTC Amaze 4G] crose948:
in the wifi folder I was looking at the TQS_D_1.7.ini, and noticed at the bottom it was 2.4g and 5g instead of it saying 4g, could that be something needing looked at by you, I have no idea what all that gibberish means, just pointing out what I thought was strange., and the lib folder is empty too.
[HTC Amaze 4G] rbaruch:
He was just playing :P

Every single one of us appreciates all the work you've done and the work you're going to do. You truly do deserve the bounty, as you're one of the only dev's that really answered our cry.

I know that I was starting to get depressed every time I checked the Amaze forums as it was pretty much dead, and I feel that other Amaze owners probably felt the same way too. Now I actually enjoy frequently checking this thread and the Amaze Dev forums and reading through every comment.

No rush, take your time. We waited so long for someone like you to come along, we can wait some more for some great work :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] RavenWulf:
The 2.4 and the 5 are the GHz band for Wi-Fi routers, where as 4G is cellular data network/speed
[HTC Amaze 4G] crose948:
OK, well I did not see anything regarding 4g in there, so that's why I brought it up. so that really has nothing to do with WiFi?
[HTC Amaze 4G] masondoctorjt:
Correct, 4g has nothing to do with wifi, but 2.5g, and 5g (g apparently means ghz) are the 2 bands that WiFi operate on.
[HTC Amaze 4G] gaww:
I flashed 5 a thei 4ext with no issues and WiFi works good as-is. Still fooling around with the governors (and UC/UV) to try to get batter battery life - which I believe is generally bad due to the ICS Radio.

I did note that on standby, the badass governor consumes about 14% overnight, wail the stock kernel (forgot the governor) was essentially a flat-line overnight.

However, battery consumption when calling was terrible - even with conservative power settings for that mode. Again - think it is the ICS Radio that sucks - wish they would update it.

Like may other, I would like to thank you for coming over here and creating a kernel for ICS here. Another kernel developer got donations for a device, made an initial GB kernel, and soon thereafter disappeared.
[HTC Amaze 4G] johnride:
Sorry for getting of the current topic but when clicking the download link on dev-host I get a MySQL exception... Anyone mirrored this kernel?

Sent from my HTC_Amaze
[HTC Amaze 4G] kozmikkick:
Dev-host is down for a little bit. It should be back up in awhile.
[HTC Amaze 4G] crazypotato:
why HTC always likes to screw us up? They really don't like Amaze users.