yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy Android Development] flying triplist:
just installed v04 09

wonderful job just 2 issues now for me.

1) when i plug wall charger i lost 3g data. network icon stay at grey.

2) i am using apex launcher. each appli i launch causes apex FC.

I know it's experimental build. so i'm waiting for the new one.

i hope this post will help.
[Defy Android Development] corrinti:
Or :cowboy: newer nightly can have some newer parts included, which overwrite kernel's contents. Please correct me if I'm wrong
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
It's not necessary... they just have to release jb with kernel signed with the same key to work on our bootloader. They don't have (and will never do) to unlock bootloader

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[Defy Android Development] bone101:
I've got problems with Wi-Fi data connection ... the Wi-Fi symbol in status bar stays grey , connection is established but no data are transferrerd....

After an reboot every thing works

Problems since i use mobile data
[Defy Android Development] sami2704:
I dont think new nightlies or any other ROMs do any changes in Kernel. They just use drivers in kernel to talk with hardware thats all.

I had installed CM9 kernel & Gapps only while flashing CM10 that too because i had done full wipe. For any other subsequent nightly i only install nightly. No kernel, no Gapps. It work just fine.

Just do wipe cache and dalvik cache before and after install from SD card... :good:
[Defy Android Development] illumanati22:
Temple run brave n nova 3 lags a lot in latest nightly
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
Well ROM CAN & it DOES include new stuff into kernel....

New drivers and so on...all done via kernel patching
[Defy Android Development] FcukBloat:
last build is so nice.. except for video recording still lagging..

also, previously purchased can not be installed via play store.. as I was afraid.. :( they download properly but then installation fails with unknown error -24 :(

what could it be? i tried two apps i did puchase (tapatalk.. really need it! and quarx donate app).. both fails during install.. instead other free apps from my account can be installed without problems.. please help forum via browser is so slow.. :(
[Defy Android Development] Persechini:
I'm loving this build so far, very smooth - I know I complained about perception of smoothness after a clean install, but this time if it's not real I really fell victim to this illusion =P (mb525 build installed over previous mb526 build only clearing cache/dalvik). Proximity sensor is responding swiftly =)

There are still a few cons that were occurring for me for some time:

- Compass calibrates ok since the fix, but it still points north with an approximate 15 degrees error (it will point either correct north or a bit off either clockwise or counterclockwise every time I take it up and place it down again)

- GPS doesn't fix unless I'm in wide open space (and I mean WIDE, not even a big window is enough). For what I read over the forums other ICS/JB ROMs have this issue too, specially outside the US (I'm in south america). GPS fixing apps take as much time to lock as google maps (and can't lock in the same situations it can't), and this is with data and/or wifi enabled, I gave up trying to use GPS without data enabled even in the open. Last time I could get certain GPS lock every attempt, even indoors, was with GB or earlier ROMS (namely MIUI GB and stock froyo)

-Brightness sensor seems to get stuck every once in a while (won't light up when moving from shadow to direct sunlight, etc) but this might be due to me changing from defy+ to defy build without a complete wipe (but I did flash the correct kernel)

Plus, I never seem to have this question answered, but here I go again:

What difference does it make flashing the kernel before of after the ROM? does the ROM contain anything the the kernel zip replaces or vice-versa? Are there any technical aspect preventing the ROM to come with the respective kernels built in?

And lastly (please don't hate me) does the leftovers from the SBF flashed before a custom ROM take any part in this? I mean, I've read people saying that CEE or Nordic SBFs were a better starting point for flashing custom ROMs over
[Defy Android Development] vaibhav palande:
I agree with GPS and Brightness sensor issue... I did full wipe before installing latest nightly..

About brightness sensor: When i go from direct sunlight to shadow or vice-versa screen brightness doesn't change.. i have to lock phone and when i unlock it, i get the proper brightness... Any1 with the same issue?
[Defy Android Development] lief.erl:
for whoever is using apex/Nova launcher but experiencing lags try holo launcher HD (free version available). it is actually made for jb unlike other launchers, which haven't been updated for months.

Sent from my MB526
[Defy Android Development] vaibhav palande:
Yes, HOLO Launcher HD works great and it is specially made for JB, so all the new JB animations are there..
[Defy Android Development] diogo.sena:
not for us... locked bootloader, remember? :(

before.. after.. it doesn't make any difference..
[Defy Android Development] FcukBloat:
me too.. brightness sensor seems to work.only after locking display.

which apps are.you using for compass? i'm using compass from catch.com and seems to me pretty precise!
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
That's incorrect... kernel patching is possible via custom modules....

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[Defy Android Development] rodrigojfuentes:
Gapless playback

What about gapless playback? I far as I know, official JB supports it. Correct if I'm wrong.

Thank you very much Quarx for your awesome work. You're a surprisingly skilled dev! Please keep your abilities with our rock-solid defy! :D
[Defy Android Development] overclockthesun:
Anyone else facing a Wallpaper bug?

I ca nno longer select a pic to crop it as a wallpaper. And using other apps too...... my wallpapers only stick in a Non-scrollable mode.

Tried full wipe+cache+dalvik..yet no respite.:(:(:(:(:(
[Defy Android Development] diogo.sena:
modules wont change the kernel you already flashed...

still wont make any difference
[Defy Android Development] nidhish91:
Working good for me. That issue was fixed in latest build.
[Defy Android Development] Bendary:
When will we get trebushet launcher settings and crt screen off animation? I'm tired of apex
[Defy Android Development] veddandekar:
+1 and I have a clean install with proper kernel....
[Defy Android Development] tlongren:
I'm happy with the Apex Launcher beta that was rebuilt based on the JB launcher.
[Defy Android Development] labsin:
With other devices you need to install the kernel after the rom because the rom could possibly work with different custom kernels and these kernels could all need different drivers, compiled together with the kernel. So if you flash the kernel zip, the drivers(Wifi fi) get changed.

With the defy, we have 3 types of drivers. The gingerbread drivers, the froyo and the ecair. In how much they differ, I don't know, but the drivers needed to get the kernel working are all the same with every kernel, as long as it is from the same type.
[Defy Android Development] zyxwvut:
for all those questioning why you should flash the kernel BEFORE flashing the rom, I base this philosophy from an old post by Epsylon3 himself. Please refer to this post here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28370245&postcount=6065

---------- Post added at 07:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:22 PM ----------

I think you misunderstood me, what I meant was that "if" Motorola releases a JB kernel they would probably not want users of older phones (like us) to use this newer kernel. They could accomplish this by signing the kernel with a newer signature not recognized by our "older" bootloaders. Therefore they would need to release a new bootloader which would recognize the new signature that the kernel would be signed with. This would effectively prevent us from loading the new kernel.
[Defy Android Development] Deonix:
Some pics of Go launcher using Hi-Black theme and Flow CM10theme. Its really great and does not lag if you set it ok. And it has te greatest themes.

But the customization level is the best. You can import icons and docks from different themes and combine them.
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
And i was referring to that.

All offtopic users, If you have any different problems...don't spam the development section....use appropriate support threads for that!
[Defy Android Development] zyxwvut:
I didn't even quote any of your posts so get off your high horse buddy!!!

I was trying to clarify everyones recent posts about why you should flash kernel first and rom second!

The second part of my post was quoting espaciosalter20's post in which he misunderstood one of my previous posts

You just further spammed the thread by trying to insult me and now I am too!

I know how to use dev thread and I have no problems whatsover let alone any "different problems" and I don't need support threads for anything since I don't have any problems. What do you mean "And I was referring to that" ????? NOBODY EVEN QUOTED YOU COOL GUY!
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
Sorry...i think you misunderstood me... (i referred users to that epsylon's post, that was i meant to say)

All clear....let's get back this thread back to its original direction.

If i insulted you i am sorry!
[Defy Android Development] m11kkaa:
I'm micha :D

The driver always was opensource, but we needed framework-patches for >=ICS

I developed the touchscreen-driver together with Quarx, so we don't need framework-patches anymore. I did not use it in b2g before, but thanks to that I don't need touchscreen-patches for b2g, too :)

BTW: I managed to get the driver fully working with >=ics and multitouch. No more lags etc. Next update will contain this new driver.
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
Yes. You have right if they doesn't want to allow that older devices have the new jb kernel. But the question is if they are really planning to upgrade every single device released on 2011, like the news said (theoretical, defy+ too) to 4.x, in our case they don't need to update (or unlock) bootloader, just provide a jb kernel signed with our key.

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[Defy Android Development] Kurt Krummbein:
well, it all depends an the kernel.zip to install. If it contains '/lib/modules/*/*.ko' files that fit perfectly to the kernel, its better to flash the kernel after the rom (just remember, /system is normally reformatted on install of ROMs and that's also clearing '/lib'), if not, it's no use to care (and discuss).
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
Motorola replied to me...regarding 2010 devices JB upgrade

https://twitter.com/MotorolaSupport/status/243781182150565888
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
A bliss of hope....

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[Defy Android Development] veddandekar:
So there a chance ( even if small) for our defys to get official jb too!
[Defy Android Development] zyxwvut:
This is the last time I will be Off Topic.

I would also like to apologize to you ppero196, I jumped the gun a bit there. I'm a little touchy lately, I fell 25 feet off a ladder at work and fu&*ed my leg and arm up pretty bad and I'm on some pretty strong painkillers. All I can do is sit on my ass all day and do NOTHING all day! :P

The whole discussion in this thread about flashing kernel first came recently when I was trying to help a guy who wanted to know if he could flash a GB kernel on bl4 and I simply reminded him to flash the kernel first, because Epsylon had stated this previously.

All is clear! Sorry I was a jerk about it!
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
No problem...i hope you get well soon...

Have you saw reply that Motorola sent me (3 posts above)?
[Defy Android Development] veddandekar:
I used to use smartass 2 governor but due to fast battery drains I recently switched to boosted and the battery life is much better

On cm7 smartass gave me more battery life .... is this normal ??
[Defy Android Development] GuustFlater89:
Wonderful to have JB on my defy! Last build 4/9is wonderful! Thank you Quarx! I have two questions:

- Will it (ever) be possible to have USB host enabled? It would make my good old Defy more than perfect!:D

- How about the GPS fix of 18/8 in another thread? Is it relevant to this ROM? Is it included?:confused:
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
Well there were recent improvements regarding governors...They got updated
[Defy Android Development] zyxwvut:
I did see that! hopefully they come through to us loyal customers who keep them in business. Although their reply sounds kind of vague IMO.
[Defy Android Development] vic160890:
In fact, that answer seems to me like a nicely put, NO! :))
[Defy Android Development] Redhotero:
Restore it from titanium backup. Worked for me.
[Defy Android Development] klickig:
there you go...

https://twitter.com/MotorolaSupport/status/243829925130432512

forget motorola. they totaly dropped the support for defys. No updates in any way from them.

Thankfull for our DEVs that we have all these great roms.
[Defy Android Development] @non4:
DSP manager not working on poweramp, anyone else confirm this? Its why I wanted it working in the first place. Did a dirty install over previous with cache/dalvik wipe, anyone who's done a clean install got it working? I know its got its own eq but the small speaker preset is great for work

Sent from Iron man's Jellybean powered suit
[Defy Android Development] ennarr:
Read the OP, it ain't a bug.
[Defy Android Development] edgar83:
I don't want a official jb version... just an unlocked boot loader! :banghead:;)
[Defy Android Development] Иereus:
Won't an official JB version come with a shiny new signed kernel?
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
Yes. That's right

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[Defy Android Development] @non4:
Like I said poweramp, not Apollo, read the post! :P On a serious note I understand that poweramp may use similar coding that makes it not work, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of DSP manager? What else is it good for other than music? Quarx, bug or not its pretty useless without music player support, if you can use your awesomeness to make it work I would be most grateful :)

Sent from Iron man's Jellybean powered suit
[Defy Android Development] jorgeoro:
Guys you should open a new thread about it, this is not the most apropriate one.

EDIT: Actually there's already one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1872406
[Defy Android Development] Shubhamqweasd:
guys can anybody use screencast without lags ?? it highly lags for me ? max fps stays at 14fps :P
[Defy Android Development] cdlq456:
LOL you're so naive, not even the atrix got official ics and you want jb on the defy.

Anyways, i don't understand why you people are so obsessed with official updates (motorola, or cyanogenmod)

We have here a nearly perfect working jb rom, what more do you need? what difference will make an official rom? stop asking for unuseful things.
[Defy Android Development] evertjr:
I was having lots of data drops (that annoying bug) in latest build, I've never have this problem until now, so I started playing with cpu settings... I changed the cpu governor to ondemand and sio to cfq and used during all day with no issues with data. Is it related?
[Defy Android Development] paijho158:
yeah it doesn't make sense to wait official to be launch while we have devs here with their amazing work. but how about kernel update?. does it will help? i prefer the impossible unlocked bootloader.

enough for OT.

the build is getting better with fast update from quarx. but this is not the end. my defy getting slow from time to time. not too much. but hope there will be stability fix.

keep up the good work quarx. you are wonderful. since this is devs section, i will keep silent again.:good:
[Defy Android Development] leandeganis:
IDK others but in my case I have to stay in stock based GingerBread ROMs just because of the camera quality, since I use my phone to record, I need that HD fix. And that sucks balls because I wanna be using Quarx CM10
[Defy Android Development] d3athr0w:
thumbdata3

Does any body notice the amount this file eats our Defy SD, thumbdata3 located in DCIM\.thumbnails, it eats up 1plus Gb, is there anyway to delete it automatically, i just delete it manually and nothing happens in my Defy it gave me back my space. If you didnt notice this surely you will notice that your SD is already full.

by the way i already read some, but can our new build have a autodelete for this file, when every time we close our gallery
[Defy Android Development] sbE:
I think it would be REALLY nice if we have a Rom without this extremely annoying 2g/3g data connectivity bug and by the way no memory problems out of the box (full gapps lags our device).
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
nice find :)

i deleted the whole .thumb folder :D :d
[Defy Android Development] d3athr0w:
thumbdata3

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Bad Me, i forgot to mention, i did also that deleting the folder but it gave me a reboot loop in CM10 new build, re created the folder with (dot) at hte beginning then it work normally, i just delete the file inside it.
[Defy Android Development] veddandekar:
Ekk I was just about to remove it....
[Defy Android Development] bharaththeunique:
Nice find....but fr me the thumb file is abt 100mb ....something else is eating up my SD space....gotta find it...
[Defy Android Development] my2ct:
Hi Guys,

I still experience a non working touch screen @mb526 with quarx's latest nightly.

It works perfectly @mb525 red lens and GB Kernel (which I own as well and keep both actual)

@mb526 I tried with wiping everything as well... I did not try from scratch (stock-root-cwm-flash) and would like to avoid it.

I tried the search function but found no solution for that. It seems that nearly no one has the same issue...

Can anyone confirm or provide a solution?

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[Defy Android Development] miziel:
Hi. Anybody know what I have to do to help in translation to my national language? Cause in this ROM is too much english :)

Thanks for help

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[Defy Android Development] m11kkaa:
Can you connect via ADB and post dmesg and the output of the command "lsmod"?

I hope you have enough linux-knowledge todo that :P
[Defy Android Development] d3athr0w:
sir, just wait and you will see it will eat your space
[Defy Android Development] @non4:
Why not add this instead of Apollo?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1350164

Its a better player and DSP works too! :D

Sent from Iron man's Jellybean powered suit
[Defy Android Development] Delphis1982:
Jelly Bean on Defy+

You made it, Quarx...

It works like a charm.

I'm using The latest nightly and it is stable.

No errors, no hangs.

But i'm missing the car-mode,

that tells me incoming calls like: "Call from Sandra Miller". (In german, of course).

My Stock-ROM had this feature activated by default.

Only for incoming calls. This was NOT the Screenreader.

But regardless for that... you made a great job.

By the way... I'm experiencing, that my phone runs faster,

when i deactivate all Apps from the HWA-Dialog.

Is that a bug or os that normal ?

Sorry for my english, i'm german.

Sent from my Laptop using WiFi-Tether from my DEFY+ CM10
[Defy Android Development] AlexGraves:
this occurs to me also ... ever since froyo era ... :D

if i use 3rd party image viewer apps, like Quickpic, for instance. each time i delete an image, the thumbnail of that image stored in the dcim/thumbnail folder won't be deleted as well ...

so overtime, the contain of that folder will grow larger as long as we take pictures ...
[Defy Android Development] FcukBloat:
it says it is not compatible with my mb526..??

btw I agree apollo is not so good imho..
[Defy Android Development] edgar83:
+1 ... I always use it, my music library is on the cloud! :D
[Defy Android Development] veddandekar:
My phone is rebooted itself today.

It was just lying there... locked... I wanted to play a game (:D) so unlocked it and as soon as I did that the phone rebooted itself and Got stuck at M logo. I tried to remove battery and put it back. But that didnt fix it. So I wiped cache and dalvik and rebooted and this time it worked.

IDK why it did so.

Anyone else noticed this?
[Defy Android Development] Maxxxxxxxxxx:
works perfect on mb525
[Defy Android Development] FcukBloat:
hi guys stupid question.. when I change ringtone to a custom one located in my sd card (via es file managaer) it sounds laggy.. only the stock ringtones play fine.. does it happen only for me or for you too?

thanks!
[Defy Android Development] overclockthesun:
Does anyone else have this problem with Power Amp? Anytime I try to set a .FLAC file as my ringtone within power amp, it just greys out the entire area. I have to use Apollo to set .FLAC files as many ringtone:banghead:
[Defy Android Development] wurealm:
Try the next one: on SD create "SD-Card/Audio/Ringtones" and copy there the ringtone files, or copy them directly into the phone's internal memory in "System/Media/Audio/Ringtones".
[Defy Android Development] FcukBloat:
I copied it but it doesn't show in the ringtones list.. could it be because it is a .amr file?
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
yeah it was 150mb for me...

and no reboots...
[Defy Android Development] edgar83:
Setting a .FLAC as a ringtone doesn't sound like a smart idea, why don't you convert it to mp3? :o
[Defy Android Development] ch4ni:
To have the ringtones on the SD card create the following file structure on the SD card media/audio/ringtones and add your files these must be with .ogg extension. once this is done you will see them in your list of ringtones along with the system ringtones. if you want to add alarms or notification tones create two additional folders under media/audio/alarms and media/audio/notifications and again add your files with .ogg extension.
[Defy Android Development] _ossie_:
Did this get resolved? I have same problem on a clean install with 04.09 nightly.
[Defy Android Development] niimand:
call problems

i´ve just had a call, but heard nothing on the other side, trying to turn off the call, nothing happened.. even power button didnt worked.. also the long press, trying to restart phone - nothing.. i had to open rom toolbox and do the restart from there..

anyway, about calling, it lags.. hearing ringtone, then lag and just after few second (long time) i can see the call screen (no addon) and answer (but mostly i am not able to catch it on time - they hang up)..

i am using nova launcher beta version, as others were laggier.. (or any other suggestions?)
[Defy Android Development] FcukBloat:
thanks to you and wurealm!

so probably the problem is that I have to convert them in .ogg format first..

thanks again bye!

PS: someone that understand the quarxs github.. do you see activity these days on it?

I am excited.. hope you can see some activity about video rec.. :)
[Defy Android Development] ktmbikerman:
The data bug has many layers, you can find more info here
[Defy Android Development] FcukBloat:
edit
[Defy Android Development] markos807:
Still cannot connect on an opened/protected network (even if I know the password).Fix?
[Defy Android Development] sakitobaki:
You can convert it with audacity.

I'm using it on Ubuntu for music manipulation.

Just open your music file in audacity and export it as ogg extension wherever you want.

Red lense Defy

CM10 04092012 by Quarx
[Defy Android Development] illumanati22:
No screenshot in phone option jb builds
[Defy Android Development] lief.erl:
Don't mean to offend anyone but please guys don't discuss your problems unrelated to this rom here. This is a support thread for jb. Every time i come here to check anything new regarding rom's progress, all i find is - some discussing about thumbnail folder or other tricks. Least we can do for the dev is to keep this thread clean.

Sent from my MB526