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[Defy Android Development] aribis:
Yes guys with reprimand from dear Goofy let things settle down a little...first v6...then boosted my ass...then beats...completely lost all appetite for this thread...i know we all want our defy to become more awesome than what it actually is...thing is this phone was built when there were no dual core phones...and no gingerbread...simply putting or defy its flying on JB and that's dream like...so settle your expectations...think compromises...with fu..ed bootloader...battery management...and support...Motorola has made sure our beloved defy had a shelf life...but it still is kick ass...actually it has succeeded it's name...DEFY!

We love our devs Quarx...Epsy and the fraternity..so give them some time and we'll see the best of jb on our defy despite all its limitations...it's already my daily ROM and i will wait for better releases...thank you guys!

Ari@JellyGreenDefy
[Defy Android Development] G00fY2:
Wrong, boosted was added by Epsylon back in May. And it was already inculded in quarx builds as fas as I know. Quarx did not change any single line of code about this governor. Why don't you look at the links instead of interpreting something wrong out of Quarx posts? In github you can see that he just changed settings from ondemand to boosted as default cpu governor: change ondemand to boosted( smartass v2)

So there is nothing buggy or need to get fixed. But as I explained, boosted isn't the same as smartassV2, as it uses other values to control the cpu. So if you want better performance and same feeling as with normal smartassV2, just change the values I posted. I don't know why it's so hard to understand?:)

Yes, seems like Epsylons experimented a bit with this values. But in his last CM10 build he uses the ones I posted (default boostedASSv2). In an other repository he "tuned" the settings to the one you posted: tune boosted default frequencies, fix typo in bst

I don't know which version Quarx is using, but I guess that it doesn't make much difference.

The point iosched_sio has nothing to do with the cpu performance. But it can increase system speed. The scheduler organizes the input/output (I/O) operations on the storage. And when you set iosched_sio to 1, Simple I/O scheduler (SIO) will be used. I think noop or cfq is used by default on defy. Here is a explanation and summary of schedulers... 4. I/O SCHEDULERS

In fact I don't think that this brings noticeable performance boost. But it's also ported from DroidX and I think there was a reason for motorola to use this as default.

So please let us stop the dicsussion about governors and schedulers at this point. It's not really related to our ROM development.

Also sometimes changing scheduler and governor just lets you think that everthing is running better. It can be imagination, although it really has impact in performance. You have to find out for yourself. But as I sad Gafanhotz, if you are happy with "normal" smartassV2, just change settings in bootmenu to the ones you can find here. If you like to discuss about it, feel free to open new thread in generel selection. But it makes simply no fun to read about all this myths and half-truth in this thread.

And also please stop asking for stuff like beats audio crap! This is Cyanogenmod and none of these roms that are cobbled together with all kind of mods and patches!

Edit: Thanks aribis. I'm happy that I'm not the ony person who feels like this.
[Defy Android Development] G00fY2:
Do you want to provoke us? Use google to read about the differences or simply try it for yourself! But please STOP asking for this stuff in Cyanogenmod 10 Android Development thread.
[Defy Android Development] Sir Flashalot:
This has never been dev thread from the start and never will be. So stop complaining about it and just except/ignore the flood of n00b posts. I don't like them either but the most annoying posts are the people complaining about it. There is almost no interaction between devs and the users anyway. A nightly is uploaded almost every day without any introduction and is up to us guinea pigs to find out what's wrong.

I also noticed that the Thanks button for useful posts has degraded into some kind of 'Like' button lately...

-edit: what about smartboostedv2ass? ;)
[Defy Android Development] aribis:
Hey Goofy dear...cool it brother :laugh: you are just scaring us off...hahaha

Right but that dosnt help if we drag on something for too long...many people have many issues...imagine if we continue with all our thoughts untill its settled then this thread will soon becone a dungeon..a couple of posts here and there for your point makes it valid enough for consideration...please dont drill down things too much...remember our knowledge is such little that we can only raise flags about things rather than actvely solve it...so lets do that...and leave the devs in peace to actually work those flags down rather than consume them in talking...we love them when they interact or make statements...lets hope they are listening to our concerns and am sure they are...

btw Quarx is online...so come out with your flags guys...lets kill the devs today :laugh:

EDIT: ok and my thoughts about battery consumption and our endeavors of trying to extend it...is very futile...Motorola seems to be the most inefficient of designers when it comes to implementing battery management...i can share my history of MotoRazr V3i and also Defy not beign the best when it comes to battery consumption...and i think thats something more hardware than soft mods can do anything about :(

Yup...blame it all on Facebook...spoiled our understanding of thanking!! but the best burgain about that is now i am more on XDA than on Facebook...XDA RULES!!! :good:
[Defy Android Development] pepcisko:
Quick message to all who ask for "things" to be added to the ROM..

Guys, wake up... in case you haven't realized, CM10 is not complete yet (doesn't even have official nightlies yet), there are daily feature mergers done on github by the devs and in case you really really haven't realized, our defy[+] (with the proper gapps) is running out of /system space a little bit. So, for the time being, stop asking for new stuff (supercharger, equalizer, ...) that with 99.99% will never make it to the official CM10. Almost all of you want the defy to be an officially supported CM10 device (and yes, there are significant obstacles on the way to reach that status), yet in the last 50 pages it looks like the old days when WM6.1 ROMs were being cooked with all possible and impossible ingredients.

On-topic: bugs in the current 8/4 nightly:

- after unlocking the device, sometimes the status bar doesn't come up and I have to open the notifications screen

- stock alarm not reliable, sometimes only gives the notification, but cannot be dismissed

- 24dp & 36dp on-screen buttons incorrect (back button too large)

Otherwise, very smooooooooooooooooth and all the features that I use are working fine.
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
Except when Quarx changes the default governor, or locks phone and sms in ram because some people asked it.

Am I the only one who's not fund of thoses choices?
[Defy Android Development] aribis:
Sorry if you dislike those changes...but locking the phone in memory was a basic necessity(and best act)...a phone is a phone is a phone is a phone...always..we can skip over that live wallpaper, or facebook or those fancy widgets if they are eating too much...but we cant miss a call...simple!

For me even sms can wait as it itself is time consumig to type...and i think this has left our Defy with less memory indeed but has made its usage as a communication device more easy...

That is the way it should be!!
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
how exactly can you remap them? will quarx include this in his next build too?

what on earth did i do to have so many 'fatal' bugs on 04/08? no deep sleep, no charging and no flashing zip from cwm. :confused:

aug. 6. quarx github: some fixes in camera (i think its the fullscreen preview bug), enable sw codecs (might be in connection with video playback, dunno)

and is there a way to individually lock apps into memory?
[Defy Android Development] Nemado:
Locking phone and sms in RAM makes sense. It's a phone after all. If I wanted a tablet, I wouldn't have baught a 3.7 inches one.

By the way, Epsy's back from vacation! YAYYYYYYYYYY!
[Defy Android Development] pprakash:
+1 .. Locking phone in the memory is a good move and made my JB powered Defy more responsive as a basic Phone.
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
just set my io scheduler to 1 (sio), and looked it up in /sys/block/mmcblk0/queue/scheduler, and it said: "noop [cfq] sio"

what does this mean? shouldnt i delete it and leave only sio?
[Defy Android Development] pepcisko:
that means cfg is active, not sio. Change it again and don't forget to save in the bootmenu cpu settings. Don't delete anything.
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
rebooted, changed back and forth and whatever i did, it remained the same. :confused:
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
Have you tried to smash it into the wall? Works for me.
[Defy Android Development] pepcisko:
what happens if you try to change it via software (like Nofrills CPU)?
[Defy Android Development] devil1406:
Thank god that he didn't do it! I understand that our Defy is basically Phone. But when gmail is launching for 20 seconds or Internet Browser is launching 30 seconds or the facebook is launching 2 minutes it pissed me off.

With the new Epsylon's nightly everything is opening for 2-3 seconds after few hours of intensive usage.

And chrome works more than fine for me on this build. It is fast, responsive, and after 1,5 hour of using it, still no FC, neither lags. (green lens)
[Defy Android Development] trurl3:
Not, as for now... we hope...
[Defy Android Development] Nchls:
God, why cant you guys read the open first...?
[Defy Android Development] Jinx Lumos Joke:
Jelly Bean is awesome!!! Thanks Quark for making this available for us!
[Defy Android Development] Sir Flashalot:
Jesus H. Christ on a bicycle.... :eek:
[Defy Android Development] m11kkaa:
Is this library directly called by the Java-Framwork? If it wouldn't break compatibility I would suggest to revert the changes google made to the audiostream. Otherwise use C-code for the conversion so you won't have delays and high CPU-usage.
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
You're good on c stuff... I have seen and test your work. Why don't you help to quarx to recompile that file? Maybe it's faster if more people involves in this.

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[Defy Android Development] ofmb:
Reversing the changes could be an easy solution for short term, but I guess Google made these changes for good reasons, and they're here to stay.

If we (who am I kidding? If Quarx) could define the input format and output format precisely,

I'd guess it wouldn't be too hard to find open source implementation for this.
[Defy Android Development] yodawg:
Totally agree. Afaik they´ve made some progress on low-latency (realtime) audio in JB :) And I am looking forward to experience this on my Defy+. Hope Quarx and the other devs will manage this, but I am confident :)

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[Defy Android Development] airwolf1544:
:good: :laugh:
[Defy Android Development] m11kkaa:
That's his seriousness^^
[Defy Android Development] kadofl:
WOW!

Jelly Bean is amazing, guys!

Much more zippy than ICS.

When Audio-lib is supported this will become my everyday rom.
[Defy Android Development] K3n H1mur4:
Is this working OK for multiboot? My primary system is CM9, latest nightly.
[Defy Android Development] K3n H1mur4:
K, thx. Will test and report any non listed issues.
[Defy Android Development] overclockthesun:
yeah but do use multiboot .61 and not v 0.7 touch. the new one breaks the dual boot.
[Defy Android Development] Gafanhotz:
Don't let the post die guys. Let's incentive quarx to continue his awesome work at JB.

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The guy that posted in reply to me... Forget it. I'm out.
[Defy Android Development] bharaththeunique:
Do u really think dis thread is dying.....436 posts in just 5 days.....and btw...d post u just made....was more of spamming it rather than an incentive....n dats y I am gonna stop talking too.....pls...only dev n doubts and bugs here.....
[Defy Android Development] yodawg:
1. I dont think Quarks cares if theres much activity in this thread.

2. This Thread is inside the Development section, so posts should contain at least a bit of useful info.
[Defy Android Development] Mikis89:
Completely agree, Quarx imho made a big mistake opening a thread and releasing a pre alpha build :(

Seriously, these first builds will be made just to be sure that the basic functions may work, he knows better and before us that panorama/audio/video ecc ecc is not working, please all let's not turn this thread (too!) in a complete mess.
[Defy Android Development] K3n H1mur4:
Not sure where to report issues and overall experience, so I'm doing this here.

System: july 14 nightly, installed on SD card (8 GB, class 4, the one who came with the phone). Froyo kernel (is it even available for /gb kernel?)

Boot took a very long time. It didn't give me a bootloop suspect or anything like this, just that the boot animation was running slowly as hell.

UX is, at least, pleasant. Even though it's running from the SD, it's fast and good enough for daily use, in this matter. Transitions are smooth, a few lags are noticeable, but I'm way more inclined to blame my SD than the ROM itself. There are no toggles on the notifications pane, nor power off menu yet, I'm assuming they're simply not implemented on the framework yet. Overall use seems just right, great considering we're dealing with a 4 days old build.

Most functions work out of the box: data, wifi, touchscreen, sensors (accelerometer and ambient light - didn't test proximity). No sound, as stated. Didn't test calls. Also, since I'm running it from the SD, didn't test mass storage. Camera is ok, uploaded a couple of pics taken with it.

I'm having troubles with my battery (retaining about 15% of its original capacity, only - percentage gaps happen all the time), but a new one is coming today. Maybe I update this post, later, with batt life experience, won't assure this since IDK if I'm able to run a full day without my apps.

Titanium backup wasn't able to get root permissions, nor wasn't Screenshot by Kastor Soft (I were able to take screen caps using the default JB method), although other apps were. Can't tell if it's because I'm on a virtual system or a build issue.

Market's working fine, but many apps aren't installed, giving me a "Couldn't install on USB storage or SD card" error after downloading. I also assume that has something to do with running JB from the SD card.

Google Now has not been implemented in CM10 yet, so there's nothing to say about it. If one taps the search bar at the home screen, it even shows some sort of introduction for GN, but, as soon as you opt in, it crashes.

Now, my favorite part: benchmarks. First of all, I wasn't able to get NenaMark to install, from market it gave me the aforementioned error, and couldn't restore my titanium backup for it, so I'll pass this one.

Linpack (single-threaded): 16.116 MFlops (around 15-16 on CM9)

Quadrant: 1355 (around 1800-1900 on CM9)

BenchmarkPi: 1499 ms (1400-1500 on CM9)

CFBench: 3025,1029,1827 (3356, 1074, 1986 on CM9)

Browsermark: 59529 (45325 on CM9).
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
Yup exactly what I think, I'd rather be carefull not overloading the ram with services and get a 2 or 3 seconds delay on opening anything, than having instant phone or sms application and everything else taking ages to launch
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
green lense defy..

just try epsylon build.

it's smooth for us.

dont forget to wipe data, cache, dalvik cache.

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Iki le ngirim seko aplikasi TapaTalk | MotoDEFY - Android Jelly Bean 4.1.1
[Defy Android Development] devil1406:
I don't think it's neccessary. I just moved from Quarx's 4.08 without wiping data and everything works fine.
[Defy Android Development] paulle:
can confirm this.
[Defy Android Development] ch4ni:
It is not changing for me too, changeed to 1 did a save and rebooted, it still shows cfg as being active
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
download Voltage Control from Play Store, you can change schedulers and governors with it!

created a thread in the general secfion for discussion about cpu settings, so we dont have to spam the development thread anymore.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=29895047
[Defy Android Development] ansontyl96:
I GOT A problem, what is nomedia file?
[Defy Android Development] oSandmaNo:
that is not a problem! that file just tells the mediascanner not to scan the folder the .nomedia file is in
[Defy Android Development] vap_66:
Bug report:

SoundHound (pro) doesn't appear as a lockscreen shortcut in the latest Froyo build by Epsylon3. I've set it, saved it but to no avail. Anyone else with this issue?

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[Defy Android Development] Sir Flashalot:
@vap_66 dunno about soundhound but the standard widget What's this song sticks in Quarx 0806.
[Defy Android Development] kryptonitiko:
Is it normal a battery drain KF 20% on airplane mode for 6 hours??

From Italy with my wonderful defy jelly beaned!!
[Defy Android Development] devil1406:
BR

I've noiced something more in "RAM management" and multitasking.

When you have opened few apps and close them with just "back button" or by pressing "home" they are still in memory, right? You can return to them by holding "home" button. And you can also kill them by sliding them left or right.

I've noticed that if you do this in Quarx's build (kill the app) the free RAM is not changing. It still the same, like the app wasn't killed at all but you can't see it by holding "home".

In Epsylon's build's when I open chrome, press home, open facebook, press home, open phone, press home, open sms app, press home... I have something about 90-100 mb free of RAM, in Quarx's build it's only 50-60 or even lower.

When I hold "home" button and slide apps, in Epsylon's build the free amount of RAM increases to 170-180mb (80-90mb difference), but in Quarx's build the free amount of RAM increases only to 55-65mb (5-10mb difference). Only after few minutes the free amount of RAM in Quarx's build increases to 100mb independently.
[Defy Android Development] rockmonkey1973:
ok

really liking this and i have to say that for such an early adoption it is very very good. i have come straight from cm7 kang and i am impressed. I do think it isnt quite as smooth, fast or responsive as the old kanger but for a rom that is what 2 or 3 weeks old i cant really fault it. I did have a load of lag right after the install but a reboot fixed it and i have not encountered any bugs whatsoever. my hats of to quarx honestly i am really amazed how good the work is.
[Defy Android Development] ktmbikerman:
Holding the home button displays the recent apps, not apps in ram. Sliding them just removes them from the list, not from ram (or not)
[Defy Android Development] phobos_1984:
Except some apps like, sms and maps and few others, works perfecrly for me, so I don't think it's a generic bug.
[Defy Android Development] G00fY2:
I'm not sure but I've also noticed the behavour devil1406 told since CM9. Maybe sometimes apps get killed by sliding them away in recent apps.
[Defy Android Development] jassi32:
i have ques. regarding camera ... green lens ....

i recently noticed the focal length is always 4 mm for both the infinity and macro mode .....

can anyone confirm that my defy camera focal mechanism is ok or not ......
[Defy Android Development] ch4ni:
Governeors and Deep Sleep

Have been doing some testing on various setting to see what is the best setting to put the device in deep sleep, to achieve this set the Defy+ (I only have the MB526 unit) flash the attached governors, do not reboot, go into CPU setting (via Bootmenu) and set the govenor from ondemand to boosted save and reboot, From Settings/Perfoemance select SMartAssv2 and you will notice the device will go into deep sleep very fast, see attached picture.

Hope this help users having issues into gong to deep sleep
[Defy Android Development] AnTerNoZ:
I test the autofocus with a qr scanner, worked on Epsylons last build. 06.08

here some test with camera app

automatic

makro

infinity don't take photos for me

Epsylons built have it, but no customizing options under settings.

Jelly powered.Defy
[Defy Android Development] mothy1025:
Trebuchet

Does eppy's 6/8 build has trebuchet ? will quarx next build will have trebuchet? In quarx github there is commit (e663b0f manifest: fetch Trebuchet)about trebuchet will this mean trebuchet has been added to quarx next build....
[Defy Android Development] jassi32:
yeah barcode scanner works for me too , i think when we take photos with infinity and macro mode , the focal length should not be the same .... like i have around 4 mm ..... can you look over your snaps of both modes , can confirm this ?

or its default 4mm for both modes ....?

Thanks
[Defy Android Development] paulle:
eppy's 6/8 build has no trebuchet
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
Apps can also be "stored" by Android, it unloads the app from memory but keeps some data to restore its last state when the app is loaded again. It can give the impression the app was in RAM during that but in fact it wasn't.
[Defy Android Development] pepcisko:
focal length can't change. If it did, you'd have a zoom lens :)
[Defy Android Development] vap_66:
Do not confuse focal length with focusing. Focal length is a physical characteristic and represents the size of the lens (as in physical zoom). It's normal to stay at that 4mm value all the time, because the Defy doesn't have a lens, only a sensor (Bayer/SOC) and a cheap plastic glass.

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[Defy Android Development] rockmonkey1973:
ok not sure if these are bugs or a design but the settings no longer have the cyanogen settings section so i cant set up the long press custom actions on the buttons have no bluetooth settings in the dsp audio app and i have a google search bar permanently stuck on my home screen. i have asked the questions in the q and a thread but despite 90 views no one has bothered to respond so i am hoping someone here can shed some light on this.

also are the menus by default less smooth than cm7? in cm7 i was simply able to flick the thumb and i could scroll al the way down a long list. in cm10 it seems less fuild and more jerky and i certainly struggle to get to the bottom of the same list in a single swipe of the thumb.

i think this is a bug... samba filesharing. the phone shows up in my laptops network but i get an error message everytime i try to open it. on cm7 the app just worked. so i can only think that for some reason the app doesnt like cm10 or vice versa. EDIT: I stand corrected it does work but for some reason multilock was enabled in the settings. once i had unticked that it did work. will leave my foolishness here in case someone else stumbles across the same thing.

the more i use it the more it lags. it just doesnt seem as responsive or quick and i dont feel it is quite ready but that is just my opinion. most likely gonna head on back to cm7 kang and will wait this out until it is perhaps more refined. i still stand by what i said that the rom is amazing considering it has only been in dev for about 3 weeks but once i really start using it it does actually start to show that it is still very early days yet.
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
You can use kick ass kernelizer... May help you to change io scheduler...

Other worry,

It's there a way to improve memory management in JB on our defy? I mean, I know that we only have 512 mb and i also know that quarx had working on that way lately but the problem of kernel panic persist. It's really hard to open chrome or Firefox among Facebook and have normal performance or not having kernel panic... I tried to put limit to 3 processes in back, tried v6, but it's funny that I get more ram free since i uninstalled Facebook app...

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