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[Android General] elsaedy:
so what is the best for battery
[Android General] bmcgrane8:
Powersave

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Holy **** I'm hammed I don't know how to delete this
[Android General] Vipxpert:
Can someone send me link to that lagfree source ? :)
[Off-topic] mmhasanovee:
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[Off-topic] Archer:
We did have a thread specifically for memes, which would have been the perfect place for this, but it was recently merged with the images thread. So now, that's the perfect place for this! Here's the thread...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1005229

Post stuff like this in there in future - thanks :)

Thread closed.
[Desire General] olver.hernandez:
I was trying to download the _thalamus kernel 2.6.35.14_r4 but the link is broken.

Official broke link:

http://thalamus.ineige.org/kernels/stable_release/bravo/kernel-2.6.35.14_r4.zip

Does anyone have another download link?
[Desire General] macondo62:
not for me ... Try from my dropbox http://db.tt/pWcTHgZ1

Sent
[HTC One X] will444:
Don't know if anybody has this problem but I can change my volume on the rocker by just scimming my finger across it, its highly annoying. Wondered if anybody else had this fault?

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] wipian:
Yes, my girlfriends first HOX was like that, but only with volume down.... Although this was probably related to the rather large bulge in the side where it wasn't clipped together properly :eek:
[HTC One X] will444:
Everything is perfect apart from my volume rocker

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] obsydian:
I had the opposite problem, volume down you hard to press really hard, otherwise volume would go up.

Got it replaced.
[HTC One X] will444:
I've had my phone for 3 months now and its only really bothered me now as my case pushes the button so it randomly turns up, how strange

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] Bubba Sher:
I had the same problem, was very sensitive, sent the phone in for repair because of the loose WiFi antenna and the volume button has been fixed. Don't think I would have sent in repair, if it was just a problem with the volume button.
[HTC One X] GuestK00105:
Hi just a suggestion....

I brought a cheap plastic case from amazon it was £2 and its made my volume buttons at least twice as hard to push. It might work for you

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B007KKWLSW?is=300&qid=1342124214&sr=8-6&in=2
[HTC One X] will444:
Thanks ill have a look now!

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC Desire S] Kolo39:
What do you think about writing that they only do something good for us? Nobody gets impaired... It just make us happy to create stable ROMs for a device which isn't too bad to operate with ICS/JB.
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Good idea. I'm offering myself as translator.

I've good knowledge of German language (native), also good knowledge of English..
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Yeah, I also wanted to write it like this idea, but it isn't really easy to realize, because you also have to point to the legal side --> they are forced to release the sources by law. I want to sound it like "you are forced to do this, but it's only good for you". As you said :)
[HTC Desire S] Kolo39:
Maybe we also can write something like: We didn't bought a Nexus phone because we like the good quality, look & feel and design of HTC.

and

We should say that we are a big and strong community: "Our devs" created many ROMs, Recoverys, Kernels w/ kernel sources. But we also have more than 20 ROMs which use kernels which were created w/o the kernel source. So you (HTC) can improve the experience on our phones by releasing the source file.

We can also add this link (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1146601) so the CEOs see the different ROMs
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Just add the stuff ;) Everyone can edit
[HTC Desire S] Kolo39:
Haha I try my best... My english teacher said I understand english very good but writing holy s**t :D
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Are we all signing it as well? Or just sending seperately? Or even both?! :confused:
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
I think we should all sign it in the end and then every "representative" of the various countries should translate end send it by himself.
[HTC Desire S] rain987:
Update the letter in english at OP, i am from malaysia and i will help translate it to my national language(although it might be a bit rusty).
[HTC Desire S] Isovitisgr:
Well that's HTC's answer to the message I sent them:

"Thank you for contacting HTC.

With regards to your enquiry, kindly note that the ICS update is yet to be released for HTC Desire S device. Until now, the ICS was released for the following devices: HTC Sensation/XE/XL, HTC Incredible S, HTC Evo 3D, excluding the devices that are not available in European market.

Ice Cream Sandwich for HTC Desire S is expected to be released within this month, and we are also expecting that all the phones will be updated by the end of the next month, including the branded phones. Acordingly, HTC will release everything that is necessary for developers to continue their work, as you said, within a reasonable timeframe.

Thank you for your patience and understanding."
[HTC Desire S] totiadrenalin:
I'm so glad to see this!

We should make one global petition on English, and then translate it to several languages. And kinda spam them. Force them to open there's eyes!

I can translate it on Macedonian, Bulgarian, Serbian, Croatian and all other Slavic Languages.

We badly need that Kernel source, or the community will slowly vanish in the dust!
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Yeah, that's the problem I wrote about... HTC Europe doesn't care about everything what happens outside Europe.
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Yes, that's the plan. But we cannot start translating until the english letter is finished ;)
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
The entire reply is good, except this. WTF HTC? Reasonable timeframe = Infinite stalling. That's the thing, GPL isn't clear on the "timeframe". There should be a two week (one month at most) time limit to release the sources,

Although I do agree on this - there won't be any source till updates start rolling out in Europe/Asia. HTC considers all of China as "beta testers", and releases updates to them first, I doubt we'll ever see the kernel source of that particular update.
[HTC Desire S] ReznovHuang:
Thank you very much for the HTC contact.

We have to verify, sales to China's domestic HTC desire S mobile phone have introduced 4.0 update, because you did not provide mobile phone's IMEI \ SN, we can't grasp the mobile phone you detailed information; In order to better help you solve problems, please you responding to provide mobile phone's IMEI \ SN, I will be in the mobile phone to find your detailed information to you the most after specific solutions.

IMEI check method: the phone is switched on state-dial-up interface-input * # 06 # (15-17 a number)

S/N check method: cell phone state-open the back cover-remove battery-inquires the S/N number (12 a number)

Once again thank you for your support and attention of HTC products.

——the reply from HTC China.

It seems that HTC doesn't want to release the source code until everywhere received the OTA update......So now we are one...Wish you success...

Forgive me for my poor English...
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Try to answer and tell them about the license. Let's show HTC the force of the community ;)
[HTC Desire S] Skanob:
I have corrected a few of the grammars used..
[HTC Desire S] totiadrenalin:
Dear Toni Cvetkovski,

Thank you for contacting HTC.

In regards to your link, please note that HTC does not take responsibility for any illegal software or ROM that is not from the HTC official website. The device will totally be out of warrantee of which you will be responsible for any repairs on your own and all information related to the updates will be on the website.

If you have any other inquiries, don’t hesitate to contact us again.

For further details, please note that you can contact us via support line or via email following the below link:

This the respond I got from HTC!

I send them a lot of links!

The Chinese OTA,

The leaked RUU!

And the INDEX of ROMS
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
*SIGH* They're actually warning US about warranty :p:p:p
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
I think they just don't know what we want from them... I also think, that they don't know, that Android is a free operating system... Try it again and try to explain that they haven't any clue about there products...
[HTC Desire S] Skanob:
I may have added a few lines.. :p

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Well, we are addressing it directly to the CEO of the company. Believe me, most or maybe all of these guys don't know much about the product that their selling, on how its done, work and sold.

I have been on the technical side of a company for years. And every time upper management visits our site, their dumb founded of what we are doing.

We should have addressed this to the technical or software management department..

These replies are already a template ready for them to be sent. There's a high chance that this might be ignored.

IF and ONLY IF the CEO WILL read this for himself (he wouldn't understand what we're saying) and will do the right thing, he will be consulting this to the correct department on their side..

If that happens, first rounds on me.
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
I think it's a bit hard from them to call every software or rom not offered by them illegal.

Anyway the letter itself is a good idea, but Sry I'm sceptic if it will help, but anyway sure better than just waiting :)

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9300 mit Tapatalk 2
[HTC Desire S] totiadrenalin:
Now this is something much roughly!

Here is my Message to them!

Since I couldn't replay on your message the regular way, I will have to do it this way!
I'm the one that send you links from your official OTA OTA_SAGA_ICS_35_S_HTCCN_CHS_3.07.1400.2-2.13.1400.5_release_266787nqe77g7amps0cr9a.zip

Down bellow is screenshot of other leaked RUU ICS Sense 3.6 for desire S!
Do you really thing that any of US actually cares about the warranty?!
All we care is your customers care!
We need that Kernel source!
Our community is great as you have sold Desire s devices.
And please do not angry Us!
As far as we are informed, it is your duty within 18 months of each device to be updated with the newest version of Android!
If this is true then you have a problem. Not us!
Android is Open source, which is the basic ad for all devices.
We really say that if you destroy our comмunity, we have contracted to sabotage you and no longer buy any of your products.
So you see how Desire S products are sold by now?
We (the whole world)!
The link that I sent you, the OTA update. See yourself. Download it!
Open the zip package!
You will see.
You do not really know what happens with your service!
Do not need to release any OTA update!
We already have installed ICS with SENSE 3.6 on our phones!
Based on Chinese OTA update
Everything we need is the kernel source.

Now I'm waiting for there respond!
[HTC Desire S] Jack_R1:
This thread makes me laugh. But I can only imagine how hard are laughing the guys that are receiving those awe-inspiring letters.

In case you were wondering: Android is free, Android+Sense - isn't. HTC are bound by law to release the kernel source within a certain time of releasing the official update to the devices, and whatever you're writing - won't make them release the sources even one day sooner.
[HTC Desire S] Skanob:
Kevin Durant?!?! YEAH MEEEEEEEEN!
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
I agree with most of the stuff you said, but still, we can hope hat someone at HTC is listening. Samsung released the source for the Galaxy Note, and it has CM9 nightlies now. HTC should learn something like that from them.

BTW, @Jack_R1 do you have this device? I've seen you helping many people in the General/Q&A section, but you've never posted in the dev section.....
[HTC Desire S] Kolo39:
That's why I help and signed this letter...

@Skanob I think somebody just made an unfunny joke, because I saw him signing and he had a different name
[HTC Desire S] Kolo39:
Here is the answer I got from HTC

Edit: We have a full site with signatures!!!! :D

Edit 2: I think we can now translate and discuss about how to send the letter
[HTC Desire S] Jack_R1:
Samsung has released official ICS for Note some time ago, but there's no official build for Desire S yet. That's the main difference.

HTC is actually providing more updates than any other manufacturer for its devices, including Google (the most updates are 2 OS generations - from Gingerbread to JB on Nexus S, from Eclair to Gingerbread on Nexus One). I'm not aware of Samsung device with TouchWiz that actually passed more than 1 OS generation, for example - if you want to take examples from them. As long as the update isn't streaming to devices, you can't even assume that it's complete - so what source people here want HTC to release, if they're updating it? The buggy and semi-working one?

My wife has Desire S, I have MyTouch 4G - a "close relative". I don't play with ROMs much on her phone, I keep her at the latest stock-derived ROM.
[HTC Desire S] amidabuddha:
Not completely agree with this statement, there was an OTA Android 4 for Desire S pushed to devices in the China region 20 days ago. But I think it is a sort of pre-release and they are still testing the update for Europe due to higher end user demands here. But still a source of the Chinese OTA will be a great aid for the development here since there are several ROMs already running flawless with those OTA binary kernel

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Now it's even easier to sign it... I created a Google Docs form.

What do you think about closing the open editing, convert it to pdf and start the translations now?

Greetings,

KanocX

EDIT: You don't need to sign it again ;)
[HTC Desire S] Kolo39:
Yes I think it's time to translate :D

Edit: the link in the form doesn't work

Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
[HTC Desire S] ramiro.f:
Well I got a response from HTC for my original support query (I imagine they're going to be copy/pasting this a lot)

Obviously they completely misunderstood the issue. I sent a follow up response clarifying the issue and reminding them of their legal obligation as well as the good will they receive from their customers. I'll keep you guys informed as to any response I receive :)

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There is no "time period" defined in the GPLv2 under which Linux is distributed. HTC are bound by law to release the source code of any derivative of the Linux kernel along with the binary. The relevant section of the GPL:

You must accompany the release of the binary with the release of the source. This is the requirement from GPLv2, under which the Linux kernel is released. If they release the binary they must release the source code (or a written offer to retrieve the source code). Since there is a public release of the binary, they must comply with our request for the source code.
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Ok, now I decided to start STEP 3: I think the original letter is ready to go, but the work isn't done: We have to translate it now into several languages. Get it here and translate it to this document.
[HTC Desire S] Jack_R1:
This is where the lawyers' work starts. There is no such definition in the GPL, but you can be sure that there is such definition in lawyers' books, and you can be sure that this definition changes by court ruling, not by intimidating letters. Unless, of course, you think their lawyers are a bunch of idiots that didn't think about it - but somehow I don't think so.
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
German translation already looks pretty good. Corrected a few little mistakes, but it's written with good grammar and vocabulary.. Well done, whoever it was! Couldn't have made it better myself
[HTC Desire S] djisgod:
sorry but you are all wasting your time,they are not going to release the source before the ota update.just be paitant
[HTC Desire S] Kolo39:
Thanks it was KanocX and my work... :P
[HTC Desire S] amidabuddha:
another one not reading the thread :) The OTA was released. We want the source of the Chinese OTA
[HTC Desire S] bayusuputra:
Guys, I want to help by signing, but I can't seem to be able to do so.. I have never used Google Doc before :silly:.. Any help?

Or, can someone help me add my name?

Nurvianto Bayusuputra - Singapore/Indonesia

In any case, thank you very much for the help, as well as the letter, we really need that!

Anyway, I know some people from HTC Singapore. ell, basically these are the people appointed by HTC for their marketing, they are the ones who managed the HTC Singapore Facebook page, and were the ones who managed the HTC One Series South East Asia launch in Singapore recently (and Lennard Hoornik was there). Basically they're HTC's PR. I could try to talk to one of them about it and send them the petition. But I can't promise anything other than I will try hard to deliver the message to them.
[HTC Desire S] Kolo39:
for adding your name use this form -> https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGxMbHpnck9BSlA1bDcyMUdMZjdzanc6MQ

the letter is locked so nobody can change something...

That's an idea just forward it to the PR section
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
I added your name directly to the letter ;)

That would be great! We just need a translation for Indonesia :)
[HTC Desire S] bayusuputra:
Thank you very much for your help.. :D

I'll try to translate it maybe tmr or tmr night, because I'm going off to bed very soon, I have teaching tmr morning. I don't think my brain can take a language lesson at this hour (it's 2 AM in Singapore now)..

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Thanks for your help! but KanocX has already added my name to the list! :D

Sure, I will try my best, I just can't promise anything out of it.. :)
[HTC Desire S] bayusuputra:
Indonesian translation added!
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Great :)

Tell your friends again to sign it and we can start the last step :)

I think we can finally start to think about sending the letters and releasing the english one as an open letter.

Greetings,

KanocX
[HTC Desire S] lynxnoon:
Just signed now

...HTC wake up!!!
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Hey everyone :)

Small update:

We reached 100 signs! That's awesome guys, keep it up! ;)

Greetings,

KanocX
[HTC Desire S] kxmlab:
Hey!

I've just translated the letter into French, I'm not completely sure about some of the technical terms I chose. I saw a couple of French names in the list of signatures. If you guys could have a look at it and double-check spelling and grammar, I think it would be a good letter.

This is a nice collective effort, let's hope for a positive outcome!
[HTC Desire S] anazhd:
Fixed many false Malay translation and grammar. :)
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Ok, the first letter was sent by to addressee only and by registered mail directly to Dr. Florian Seiche, CEO of HTC Germany (See receipt).

Do the same! Fetch the letter in your language here, also print the original english letter and the signature list and send them to the HTC headquarter of your country ;)

Greetings,

KanocX

EDIT: Don't forget to post it, when you sent a letter to avoid double mailings.
[HTC Desire S] raik0:
Shall I translate to polish language?

But I'm not sure where should I send it (or maybe someone else).
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Yeah, that would be great :)

You can send it afterwards to http://www.htc.com/pl/contact/#imprint

Greetings,

KanocX
[HTC Desire S] raik0:
Thanks. I've already done it, but I wanted to ask, just to be sure. And now I have posted in google doc. It was slightly modified to fit polish grammar.

I belive that this petition would do something...

@edit:

I have a question -- Have you included all signatures in letter that you sent to german HTC CEO?
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Oh, sorry, I haven't seen the edit.... Yeah, I sent them the translated letter, and the whole document here, including the signatures: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jSPCM4tSDQNef8AnAitAcIrX5kW5RQEbruP8Xms2SeI/edit?pli=1

Greetings,

KanocX
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Another small update:

I just got the mail: The letter has been delivered :)

Now we have to wait for an answer... Keep your fingers crossed!

Greetings,

KanocX
[HTC Desire S] skim0322:
Instead of asking for ota... Maybe we could ask them to give us what they have so far...
[HTC Desire S] amidabuddha:
Have you ever made the efford to read the Letter to the CEOs? Nobody is asking for OTA
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
Is there any Chinese, Malay, Indonesian or French xda member who would like to send the translated letter to his HTC office?

I'm looking forward for volunteers ;)

Greetings,

KanocX
[HTC Desire S] raik0:
I've sent the letter to HTC Poland Ltd. using prioritaire registered with delivery confirmation.

When I get back home I'll update this post with sending confirmation. When I'll get delivery confirmation I will also update post.

Typed from my good old HTC Dream using xda-developers app

@update1: I've added a sending confirmation.
[HTC Desire S] simeonoff:
I really really really hope you don't piss off some PMS manager at HTC... and we end up with nothing but empty hands. There's this great virtue called patience, some of you may want to embrace it, cuz believe me, it helps. A week earlier or later won't make a life-changing difference, you will still have it eventually...

Peace out, guys :)
[HTC Desire S] KanocX:
HTC has already released the first OTA of the ICS update and they already confirmed the other OTAs. They are also forced to release the source code and not, because they are just nice. It's just our right ;)

Greetings,

KanocX
[HTC Desire S] amidabuddha:
This is not Bulgaria mate. There are no emotions in the rules and license laws.

Т.е. не е нужно да се подмазваш и да пазиш поведение за да ти подхвърлят трохичка. А подобно мислене като твоето ни е довело до това дередже. Айде със здраве...
[HTC Desire S] simeonoff:
Dude, I see you've been working on the management team of a company for a long long time to know all the internal policies and how things actually work. Yet it may not be Bulgaria, PMS is global :)

Приятелю, ти си голям заядливец :) Де да беше държавата в такова положение (българска дума, а не турцизъм) заради хора, които мислят реалистично, тогава нямаше да е никак зле. Държавата е зле заради граждани, които пикаят върху граждани, за да си фишкат по един или друг начин. Т.е. липсва единност на нацията. Това, което ти толкова способно показваш, че можеш. Това, което толкова успешно ни закопава година след година.

Компания като HTC явно някакси е достигнала до нивото, че да знае кога и как трябва да се разпорежда с лицензи и достъп до отворен код, за да и се носи славата на една от най-добрите тайвански технологични компании. Аз няма да ти падам на нивото, да ти пожелавам "здраве" :)
[HTC Desire S] totiadrenalin:
This is english forum please!

Абе човеци! Па што ке биде ако секој си зборува на својот јазик?!!

And talking about HTC as one of the bestsmartphone company, I think the same as you.

We can not compare entyre countries with Company's Luke HTC, SAMSUNG or LG.

Не мешајте БАБИ И ЖАБИ.

Companies big like HTC have lowyers more then members of the Bulgarian, Macedonian and a Serbian Parliament together.

So I think that they do really know how to deal with the laws and obligations.

Надяавам че не ве обидих сега. Честно да ви кажа, всички тук едвам чакаме хтц да пусне сорс кода за ицс кернела

I hope I did not piss you off now.
[HTC Desire S] amidabuddha:
Of course it is not about suing HTC. The petition message is more like: you have the sourse, it is under GPL2, so please release it. This should not be dependent on somebody's mood and feel but on common sense