yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy Android Development] vic160890:
I mean to say that if you use the CPU with a given voltage and it has to do certain calculations it requires a certain amount of Power.

If you have it do the same calculations with a lower voltage, it should request the same amount of power. Right ? Therefore if you give it a lower voltage it will drain more current. It will never get to destroying the battery, but it will drain it faster.

I'm more an analog electronics kind of guy, I haven't studied the digital electronics consumption management and requests. I will look into it.

But my point is that undervolting the CPU will help very little to almost not at all.
[Defy Android Development] claudiobastos:
libwvm.so error

@quarkx

I'm using a Red lens Defy and, observing logcat I see this error :

E/WVMExtractor( 2985): Failed to open libwvm.so

By searches I made, it could be related with audio in some way.

I'm sharing my found and hoping that could help some way

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/android-platform/_W63mhUNU0E

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=28742949&postcount=177

Status for my defy red lew powered by jellybens/Quarx 19/07:

Works Phone, Mobile Data, USB, Mass storage, Sensors, Camera/Video/Panorama, FM-Radio

Fast (even in my sdcard)

What's need improvements:

Google now doesn't search, doesn't talk

GPS/AGPS (only in Google Maps)
[Defy Android Development] kelvinmorcillo:
Downloaded kernel from here: http://defy.wdscript.fr/kernel/ froyo one.

About flashing, what I did was:

Wipe data and cache

Wire Dalvik Cache

Flash build 19 7

Flash GApps (galactics)

Noticed the problem with sd card

Flash kernel

Got stuck in boot loop

Flash build 19 7 again

Reboot

Got the two camera and two gallery but deleted it.

About the file, it is VERY odd, But it is not on my /system/app folder!

With google on it I have:

Googlebackup

calendar suff

contacts stuff

GoogleEars

googlefeedback

loginservice

partnersteup

servicesframework

googleTTS

Very strange, I had this file back in ICS.

And about setting up google account, you can do it whenever you want.
[Defy Android Development] ponzoj:
Had anybody noticed that Silly Faces in Camrecorder is working now??. It's great, pretty useless but great!!
[Defy Android Development] MrNiick:
Quarx, you are the best XD

i was here thinking, defy will not get JB :/

then you show up and do this, so great

thanks :good:
[Defy Android Development] cdlq456:
I also have the system partition full on last nightly, is there any solution, besides deleting some system apps?
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
THIS THREAD IS A MESS!
[Defy Android Development] aribis:
Guys all of a sudden my notification Led started to blink when I got sms...it generally do not blink at all

Swyped from Ari@JellyGreenDefy
[Defy Android Development] jurgen99:
I think that this rom is ready for daily use! :D
[Defy Android Development] sebx_g1:
Agree :banghead:
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
Tomorrow
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
Oh, but it's so funny!! :rolleyes:

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[Defy Android Development] dab512:
If you have halt on incoming calls - just turn off screen click and unlock clicks - all sould be work fine.

Turning off screen sound also fix problem with slow unlock when music playing.
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
I have froyo search bar. I don't even have google now. All I can say wtf!

http://db.tt/KHDxgHsy
[Defy Android Development] dab512:
1/ Install latest google aps from firs post in thread.

2/ Launch google NOW from lockscreen and select your account.

3/ Thats all - enjoy
[Defy Android Development] N3X29:
no yet... but i think in 3 or 4 weeks yes! ;)
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
it is!

Also Can u guys check youtube non hq video? it doesnt play for me
[Defy Android Development] aribis:
Probably someone might have said this already butt I don't seem to be able to overclock....I have changed the CPU settings in boot as well as in setVsel to 1100 but CPU spy and Quadrant is reporting it 1000...don't know if it's an error in reporting or its actually not overclocking at all...confused!

Swyped from Ari@JellyGreenDefy
[Defy Android Development] trurl3:
Totally agree... It should have strong janitor with big stick to persuade some members good manners...and rules...

I have impression so there are not any moderators. Maybe XDA is to big to have moderators for all threads... If this goes on, I'm afraid that this topic will also be closed
[Defy Android Development] niksy+:
Just checked, they do work on my DEFY+. Yesterday's DEFY+ build! :)

Guys, in case you don't check Quarx's github every minute... He's already at it today :D Seems that tonight (that's tonight for me, and in 12h time for everybody else) we can expect a build with further improved codecs, 1% battery steps and more added/fixed CM features. And that's just what he's done so far! :victory::laugh:
[Defy Android Development] sebx_g1:
Another little bug : android default keyboard stays always active , I had problems with third party keyboard so I freezed android default keyboard (using TitaniumBackup Pro) .

BTW . Using chrome I wached embded youtube videos on www page without any problems :-) . /Last build green lens defy/
[Defy Android Development] Sleepy!:
I'm on minimal GAPPS, and with the 18.10 build I got around 5½ hrs with 37% battery still left and 3g on. No WiFi or GPS, though. And I've frozen Google Maps.

>

It's a definite improvement over Full GAPPS, where I'd be at 15% battery left after 5 hrs.

But as you say, this isn't a scientific analysis of battery life.

Though minimal GAPPS do help, in my opinion.

>
[Defy Android Development] shorty66:
It wont help that much as the CPU is not the biggest consumer in our phones and only the cpu will consume less power through undervolting.

The display and communication devices will still take most of the power.
[Defy Android Development] vic160890:
Yep, I'm sorry about the misconception. I understood the things the wrong way. I just read some articles about this. Even though they were about undervolting an AMD proc, it straightened my perception.

So here's the thing. Undervolting in digital circuits actually lowers power consumption as per lower voltage makes the circuit work closer to the threshold voltage of the transistors so the afferent current conducted is lower. BUT. In sleep or idle state the difference is almost unnoticeable. The difference is made when the CPU is under a lot of stress.

But then again I still stand for the idea that it could damage your hardware indefinitely.
[Defy Android Development] Sleepy!:
Ya just checked... displays taken up 68% of power consumption.
[Defy Android Development] mearoth:
Nahh, that's not even half the truth.. the thing is, the power consumption is NOT constant at all. And if you mess with Ohms law you should consider this:

For sake of simplicity let's tread the cpu like a constant resistor since for a given load that is not too far off reality anyway. And if you take I =U/R that means lower the voltage and you lower the current that can be caused by this resistor. This also means it lowers the max power the cpu can utilize. Now the cpu is not a resistor but that only means if the voltage/current drops below a certain minimum the switching within is not anymore stable causing undefined states ( nor 1 neither 0) which causes hangs.

In short: your current does not raise just because you lower the voltage. And of course your cpu voltage is not taken from the battery diectly since that is far too high and unstable for the cpu.

At one thing you are right though: playing too much with voltages could damage the cpu.
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
About 2) : your recovery is screw. It's better if you reflash a full sbf (be aware not flash an bl7 sbf) and do all the process again (root, 2nd-init, install latest nightly and the update of 21/10).

Sometimes, a lot of flashing custom recoveries or different custom roms, make the recovery go crazy (that's happen to me once)

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[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
Derp Post

Posted mistakenly
[Defy Android Development] Gafanhotz:
wow Update this early?

Changelog: "fix SGX clocks" - It was wrong? o.O

-Not available for download yet.-
[Defy Android Development] EtaCarinae:
24.10 Kernel update:more linaro optimizations, add power hal, interactive governor(should be default in bootemnu for correct work power hal), cleanup/disable unused drivers, fix SGX clocks, add bp_ptc service(only service).
[Defy Android Development] shorty66:
Anybody knows what bp_ptc service is?

By the way i had huge battery problems with the 21.10 biult until i disabled the location options. With those disabled i am getting about two days runtime which is about the same as on ICS and fine to me.
[Defy Android Development] ennarr:
oops update deleted
[Defy Android Development] jokermithun:
it is there

CM10
[Defy Android Development] DingoDingo:
Applied new kernel update http://quarx2k.ru/cm10-2ndboot-nightly-defy(+)/update_for_18.10_v2.zip, booted OK, will see how its working...
[Defy Android Development] Citynomad:
Update is back online!
[Defy Android Development] rodrigojfuentes:
I googled it, and it seems to be used for the unlock sim patch
[Defy Android Development] B4ast1:
can anyone explain me the whole power hal thing?

why do i have to use the 'interactive' governor now?
[Defy Android Development] major9:
Installed Update, pretty smooth right from booting.
[Defy Android Development] Tjunkustc:
the update now is same as just before?:confused:
[Defy Android Development] DingoDingo:
Same update, from 24-Oct-2012 16:56 3.7M, I installed it few minutes after. By the way, it is never been changed, only update from 21.10. was deleted and after few minutes Quarx uploaded V2. :good:
[Defy Android Development] ruterjunior:
be here just 4.1.1 defy mb525 in last cm1020120924

dont have be 4.1.2????

google chrome still FC...

inclusive set HW enable
[Defy Android Development] B4ast1:
button backlight is broken again, in update_for_18.10_v2.zip
[Defy Android Development] Sleepy!:
Yay! My phone booted on the new update!

It's a lot smoother than 18.10...

Though my battery is heating up a lot.

Should I get a new one?

Coz I've screwed around with the VSELs a lot, which you might know if you've read the last few pages of this thread...
[Defy Android Development] FlashTec80:
OTQ: I know almost all of you are setting vsel values as low as possible in the hunt for battery life. Got a little question thou, and when I submitted my scores of antutu I noticed that the defy with the highest score had a cpu setting of 1512. Is this even possible as I thought the highest possible cpu is 1400? Fake score?

Please don't go test if it works I don't wanna be accused of defy massmurder!
[Defy Android Development] ruterjunior:
mb525 dont updated in october?
[Defy Android Development] fideliofidelio:
Already did this. Battery drain still the same.
[Defy Android Development] jayanth1255:
OMG!! Really!
[Defy Android Development] sebrein:
I already posted a fix here. But it doesn't make the backlight settings in defy-parts work.
[Defy Android Development] plkristof:
i´m confuse

working with green lens???

i have install 9.12 nightly and i dont know how is latest for green lens

thx

ok i see now
[Defy Android Development] trurl3:
NO! And never will be... if yu don't read at least 3 pages back...

You have no choice... every new 2ndboot build is designed for every kind of Defy's. No difference, whether it is MB525 red or green lense or MB526.
[Defy Android Development] pawelsz:
todays update working fine, installed without any wipes or cache cleaning

An Tu Tu ca 2950 score, Quadrant ca 1670, quite pretty - we will see about battery :)

CPY spy still dont work
[Defy Android Development] phobos_1984:
just updated to the last build 1810_V2. Very very smooth, no backlight button problem.

And these are the SS taken from the previous build with location settings disabled.

MB526
[Defy Android Development] ennarr:
It is, not your brain it seems read the the thread ans it will be updated too :)

with new kernel (custom kernel), there are no Defy and Defy+ builds!!!!! there are unified builds for both devices!
[Defy Android Development] sebrojas:
10.21 - Beste version ever!

Thanks for this update, my phone is smotther and without problems!
[Defy Android Development] aceng_87:
they should gv quarx the title sir for making such a nice rom..all hail sir quarx!!!
[Defy Android Development] Tjunkustc:
o~o, thx, i have installed the update. it's really smooth. as i'm stupid, i don't feel the difference from 21th...
[Defy Android Development] businessman9:
hard to charge from usb connected with pc
[Defy Android Development] Bé Yêu:
Any one still bootlop M logo with red & blue led when update v2 - Affter wipe data /cache & clear dalvik >>> Bootup normaly now !~
[Defy Android Development] slimshady76:
:eek: I can't believe it! Even with CPU pegged at 100% during the first boot of the new new kernel update the phone is responsive as hell!! The application drawer opened in NO time!

Master Quarx, you have earned all my respect a long time ago, but your awesomeness keeps growing by the hour...
[Defy Android Development] trurl3:
+1

Yes, that's still persisting issue. Charging from USB is very weak.
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
For me..never fails
[Defy Android Development] trurl3:
Yes, I expected that... is there anything yours which isn't extremly big and good? :D Please, no offence..
[Defy Android Development] Gafanhotz:
As I can see, phone is performing better the deep sleep. But now, CPU Spy turned useless, I've removed it.
[Defy Android Development] Tjunkustc:
I have a question: do I must install the 18th Kerne first, then install the 21th Kerne, and then the 24th Kerne? :confused:eek:r just install the 18th Kerne and then install the 24th Kerne? Hope someone help me? Thx first!:D
[Defy Android Development] oSandmaNo:
Thanked by mistake :D

Install the latest ROM and then install the latest kernel. Don't install kernel multiple times. It will be useless.
[Defy Android Development] Tjunkustc:
o~o, thank you, :good:(someone ask me this question, I cann't confirm the answer. Anyway, thanks again.)
[Defy Android Development] illumanati22:
M getting sudden boot loops

I have tried clean install also....

But its useless back to 18/10
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
I see what you did there.

Luckily, I don't own iPhone 5. I am just trolling people with my sig
[Defy Android Development] vedhasd:
why don't we have a sticky for the 2nd boot builds... so ppl will stop asking again and again..!!

@ppero and @espacio wasse?
[Defy Android Development] adiq_ambro:
You forgot that everything is two times faster than before with every new build, works like a charm, is smooth like butter and experience is like with SGSIII.

"Luckily" lol.
[Defy Android Development] spyki007:
+1

+1
[Defy Android Development] shorty66:
The new built got some problems with my 64gb SD-card. It always reports a damaged card on startup - even though the recovery can access the card without problems.

Sometimes the phone will reboot just after reporting the card issue and afterwards the card works fine.
[Defy Android Development] Fotogravin:
How long do you wait at the moment you see the red led (= 2ndboot)?
[Defy Android Development] oSandmaNo:
Defy supports 64gb?
[Defy Android Development] pol[ice]:
Sticky 2nd boot builds +1

Thank you, Quarx
[Defy Android Development] ovu85:
hi, I've just tryed to install cm10 18th release with patch on a Red Lens Defy but it keeps restart after bootloop. Wierd is that i allso have a DEFY+ and cm10 works, just perfect (battery drayn's quickly after last update but...)

if can anyone help me. THANKS!
[Defy Android Development] casouzaj:
Yes, I have the same issue. In my case there were coincident events: I replaced my old Kingston 32GB class 4 class by a Samsung Ultra 64GB class 10 one, at the same time the 2ndboot builds came up. So, I first thought it might be a problem with the card, but, from your post, I now think it might be related to the ROM/Kernel. It happens often when I reboot my Defy. Sometimes it can be solved by connecting it to my notebook and setting 'Memory Card Access' and back to 'Charge Only'. Other times, a new reboot is needed. Either way, luckily, no data are lost on the card.

Yes, the Defy is able to handle SDXC cards.
[Defy Android Development] sUpErwHoO:
Is everyone who's updated to the v2 fix facing battery heat issues??
[Defy Android Development] thekguy:
Everything's good for me, no heating
[Defy Android Development] EtaCarinae:
No battery heat for me, but the battery percentage drops much faster than non-2ndboot versions. :(
[Defy Android Development] sebx_g1:
@casouzaj

Maybe different than SIO I/O governor will help - I read somewhere that SIO is slowest in terms of accesing SD cards - with that big cards it timeouts ?
[Defy Android Development] navinshark:
New Build 4.1.2 (18/10) Update 21/10

Use nemus launcher, very cool and smooth...
[Defy Android Development] Leavard:
Check your clock speeds and vsels, the kernel updates reset them to defaults.

Sent from my Jelly Bean powered Motorola Defy
[Defy Android Development] navinshark:
New Build 4.1.2 (18/10) Update 21/10

What u mean, new build is for all Defy phones, Defy and Defy plus, single rom for all models.

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Yep u can install 18 build and after that 24th directly not a issue, however 21st and 24th build s only for kernel related, u can install 24th update without installing 21st.
[Defy Android Development] casouzaj:
Well, mine is NOOP. SD Tools shows 8.2MB/s for write and 20.6MB/s for read. Normal operation is fine, just like the old 32GB card (except for speeds and memory size, of course). The Issue only shows right after a reboot.
[Defy Android Development] wmiki75:
When i change the Ringer volume on the Home screen... the phone make a noise, what i can not mute it, in any menu...

But what is the file, it played? Maybe i can delete it on the phone, and i can change ringer volume at silent.
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
Try changing by dragging the volume bar. No sund
[Defy Android Development] :
in cm7 there was an option to disable, but if you long press on volume button it will not make any sound ^^
[Defy Android Development] donP73:
Group SMS

Is there a way to send a SMS to a group of contacts? I miss this feature in base mms apk :confused:
[Defy Android Development] shorty66:
Well, i currently on sio and got the same problem - also only on startup.

But i only get about half the write speed - will do some testing if i can improve that
[Defy Android Development] krkdesigns:
Just keep adding the contacts... !!!
[Defy Android Development] bone101:
@walter79

Libs from ms2Ginger working fine

I felt 2 days akku time normal use

Look at Screenshot

http://db.tt/fTZwYi5V
[Defy Android Development] darkkinder:
with the new update the battery drain is very fast, but is very smooth, best version (18/10+24/10) so far.
[Defy Android Development] donP73:
WOW, what a solution!

Tell me if you would sort one by one more than 30 contacts a time... :mad:
[Defy Android Development] Mettanine:
I'm also getting a bootloop on red lense MB525. Not even reflashing the previous Kernel worked.
[Defy Android Development] tnsantos:
It seems that battery life is good again. from 100% to 94% within 6 hours. It is the same I get with CM 7.2. :D That's great! Quarkx is the best.
[Defy Android Development] vedhasd:
Everything is good for me..still can't comment on battery... but I did from cee froyo from pero's SIG!

Its blazing fast for me
[Defy Android Development] woodman:
Guys, take a look here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33224521 it's about battery drain issue. Very interesting. we should try this... USB drivers could be one of the culprits...

Sent from my Defy green lens running last cm10 Quarx build
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
I might add. As its been tested that froyo sbf used as base gives best battery/ performance/ bug less custom roms (CM9, CM10)
[Defy Android Development] :
so the best sbf out there is? cant find it in your sig. don't mind reflashing everything if then its worth it ^^
[Defy Android Development] Bleak3993:
Anybody has tried soft unlock on latest build?, as the description says, this contains bp_ptc service.
[Defy Android Development] woodman:
Sorry but I don't know what soft unlock is... I've googled it, no luck...

Sent from my Defy green lens running last cm10 Quarx build
[Defy Android Development] EtaCarinae:
But it says "only service", so, i guess it's not ready for soft unlock. If it was ready, the changelog said "SIM soft unlock".
[Defy Android Development] Aslolo:
Hey guys, i just wanted to ask, are there any plans by quarx to add USB-Host funktions?

Maybe the master himself can answer,

Greetings
[Defy Android Development] disadjusted:
battery drain seems solved

i can confirm this out of my rememberance.

take a look at the thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33227916#post33227916
[Defy Android Development] Bleak3993:
well, i just updated from september 24 build and I have to say that sim soft unlock is working perfectly, I just follow this guide, only point 1, 2 and 3 : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32648461&postcount=9541
[Defy Android Development] dog121:
Yep definitely very warm then reboots its self three times before starting seems to have settle down now but stiil gets very warm
[Defy Android Development] mick711:
For me now when new Fix come i install the zip 18-10-2012 Nightly before install the new Fix because with the last Fix for 10-10-2012 when i flash v2 after v1 the phone make bootloop .

Sorry but it's me but this thread is very very long so i think it's good to make a new or probably Quarx wait for a RC release .

Thanks
[Defy Android Development] krkdesigns:
Am not having battery overheat issues, but there's a battery drain problem, I'll leave it to quarx, cos the phone is blazing fast. Am sure quarx will fix up everything soon.
[Defy Android Development] EdwardN:
At this point I'd happily trade a little speed for a bit better battery life... my phone died at work today before the end of the day. :(
[Defy Android Development] krkdesigns:
same thing happens to me so i turn off the phone for 4 hours so that i can listen to the music while going back home... but yeah my defy is as fast as my bothers atrix 4g which is dual core...
[Defy Android Development] slimshady76:
All of you people experimenting high battery drain during Deep Sleep, take a look at the F.A.Q. Thread. A nice and simple (althought not definitive) workaround has been posted.

It really works! My battery just dropped about 5% during the last 5 hours, with plenty of Deep Sleep...
[Defy Android Development] nidhish91:
Every new update and my defy is smoother! Awesome work Quarx! Waiting for OTG support <3
[Defy Android Development] Gafanhotz:
Smooth and with a monster battery duration. I'm able do keep my phone up for two days! \o/
[Defy Android Development] YaPeL:
Someone need to tell quarx about it!

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[Defy Android Development] kryzeK:
Noob questions: This rom consumes a lot of ram? It is more stable than other rom JB? What bugs still exist?

Thanks guys!!!

Ps: My defy is MB526
[Defy Android Development] vedhasd:
I was on asia sbf and had many battery hops but this CEE froyo from your SIG is charm no much battery hops... mate

Also the abovementioned battery fix helps a lot... nice discovery

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See for the guide to unbrick defy in his sig

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And to add some...my Facebook app is scrolling buttery smooth
[Defy Android Development] EdwardN:
Confirmed at least that first time USB is plugged in on PC the connection sound isn't played, and it is played on second connection. I will see if that actually makes a significant difference for battery discharge rate for me, and post back tomorrow morning.