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[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
What u want it for eternity?

He asked for it I answered :D
[Defy Android Development] Kaffeekranz:
I just think it's worth mentioning the risks as well.

You can replace the sdcard in a matter of seconds, but replacing the internal memory - good luck!
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
Thanks but nothing solve that problem. I just "resolved" by make a reinstall of the ROM, doing a data wipe before

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[Defy Android Development] darkkinder:
Same here (defy red lens).
[Defy Android Development] MasterManson_Gunstorm:
you are using the rom uploaded at 19:02 on quarx2k.ru repo? check de md5?
[Defy Android Development] darkkinder:
yes.

EDIT:

I installed again 18/10 version and now works, the red led appeared again but now is working 100%.
[Defy Android Development] FlashTec80:
I have never used my phone with wifi so dont know how my phone works on wifi, my drop outs happen on mobile data

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How do i delete the ringtones folder it just sais that it cant be deleted when im trying?
[Defy Android Development] MasterManson_Gunstorm:
i think you need remount as rw to delete
[Defy Android Development] fideliofidelio:
What about ondemand as governor? I'm currently using that.
[Defy Android Development] FlashTec80:
As the noob i am, how do i do that? Im sure i could search for it but dont understand rw is an abrevation for so asking instead :)
[Defy Android Development] wmiki75:
settings

I used CM7 on my Defy, but it not know some (wpa2/wps) wifi network, (i do not know, why) so i must use CM10.

I have installed CM10-20120924-NIGHTLY-mb525.zip, and i not find some cm7 setting, so:

1. PowerControl Widget, how can i edit/transparent?

2. Ringer volume control, how turn off sound, when change volume?
[Defy Android Development] paulle:
rw

means read/write permission (normally you need to be root for this). with write you can see a file, but not change or delete it, with write permission you can.
[Defy Android Development] nikhil.t:
I'm facing the same problem... not sure what I could have done wrong!!!

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Data dropouts are very Frequent with the latest build! Not sure if it's just my phone or is it a common problem!!
[Defy Android Development] niksy+:
On my MB526 - mobile data working perfectly fine all day long, but reboot menu is dead (every option just reboots the phone).

For you guys talking about red led and blank screen... That's the way it's supposed to be. Blank screen happens for me, too, and after a second or two the boot animation shows up. It's normal

And, by the way, blue led is the time to press Volume down and enter recovery and after that - green light = 2ndInit; red light = 2ndBoot.

That's it :p
[Defy Android Development] XJeFX:
BR:

reboot menu didn't work for me: reboot, reboot to recovery, bootmenu... any selection i do just reboots the phone normally... and sometimes it got stuck on red light and black screen, got to pull out the battery and on blue light enter bootmenu then select 2nd-boot.

battery life is ok for me, not the best but ok.
[Defy Android Development] defim:
100% ack
[Defy Android Development] diogo.sena:
To Everyone with reboot problems, install multiboot 0.8, and it will work. :)

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[Defy Android Development] FlashTec80:
Ok cant seem to get it to work anyway. Guess i will have to settle with the 30.8 mb free i got already from playing around with titanium backup.

Got a question, found two files in the system/ folders i wonder what they really are for. LatinIME.apk and Phonesky.apk?
[Defy Android Development] thiagobaur:
black screem

Just to report

I install the lastest build and had black screen with red led after moto logo..

turn to 2n init and tried again = nothing

turn to 2n boot again = faster than ever!

thank quarx
[Defy Android Development] phobos_1984:
+1 exactly same here. Sometimes reboot on incoming call.
[Defy Android Development] sixaxis94:
I'm a little confused..

I have a green lens defy and wanted to upgrade from 2409 and from what I know, the nightlies put in the folder cm10-2ndboot-nightly-defy(+) are common to both defy and defy+

But does this mean I have to install the rom through 2ndboot only? Can't I install it as my main rom?
[Defy Android Development] bone101:
10 % Akku use over night for me with latest build...........
[Defy Android Development] corrinti:
Do not mess up multiboot and 2ndboot. For normal user it means nothing new - just flash the zip from CWM (and newest gapps if you want), wipe cache and dalvik and that's all. And read :D

Great - could you give your changes to the system? For me, just clean install out of box - 17% drain in 6,5h during night. 30% of deep sleep and 39% of standby, only 2G active.
[Defy Android Development] Gafanhotz:
The interesting part of all this is that Quarx didn't compiled the latest build with linaro. (And the only one the he compiled using it, was with Linaro 4.5 - Latest isn't 4.7?)
[Defy Android Development] fideliofidelio:
Maybe I'm crazy... But last night in complete silence while on bed, take a screen shot to test new gestures in notification area. Every time I minimized and enlarged the screenshot notification I heard a sound. Like physical sound from te camera shutter. Very weird.

Can confirm that phone does not enter in deep sleep while charging it.
[Defy Android Development] twa_priv:
I believe the latest linaro versions are optimized towards newer arm processors and won't provide any benefit for the Defy. I also don't think just compiling with Linaro will bring anyting - at least not without adding additional compiler options.
[Defy Android Development] wskelly:
Why is everyone updating the kernel from the 1018 build? The .zip from Quarx includes the kernel already. If the included kernel requires updates, why isn't it already done in the .zip?
[Defy Android Development] ChirmiPlay:
F2FS support on kernel, please!! :cool:
[Defy Android Development] jrp1305:
Hi...how do I set those permissions..I managed to transfer but was unable to notice where to go.

Ok...now I GUESS i made it partially right..needs to find how to put the 644..lol

ok2 _ I guess 644 is the same as RW,r,r, right?

I might be with a wrong live wallpaper app, cause I select and I get a "The livewallper selector stopped" - hit ok ..lol

can someone send a apk..the one from the db account was invalid and the ound I fouind might had a probelm...be a different file..I don't know..

Ok3- It was the apk!!! It is working!!!! ;)

Where do I find, on the previous roms and where do I put the other live wallpapers?

Thank you!!!!!!

Thank you!
[Defy Android Development] edgar83:
If I may make a request: camera opening is really slow, several seconds before first shot. A faster operation would be much appreciated :)
[Defy Android Development] Mikis89:
My phone (green lense, latest build) wasn't going to deep sleep too, stopped the media process in app/in use and it worked
[Defy Android Development] joke19:
Hi, ride here, deepsleep work with gov boosted. But don't flash govpack.

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[Defy Android Development] defim:
Deepsleep works for me too, but not while charging :crying:
[Defy Android Development] darkkinder:
Noob question, how I take a screenshot?
[Defy Android Development] bharaththeunique:
It never worked in any build. Not a bug.
[Defy Android Development] mato_d007:
Deepsleep is unnecesary while charging... think about it.:eek:
[Defy Android Development] shangjiyu:
press powerbutton
[Defy Android Development] darkkinder:
The screenshot button was disabled, and was not showing up on the power button, thanks.
[Defy Android Development] premaca:
Go to settings, system, power menu and enable screen shot option there. Then it turns up when you press the power button.
[Defy Android Development] casouzaj:
Or just press and hold both the power and vol(-) buttons...
[Defy Android Development] juan296:
OMG,guys... MAYBE our defy gets JB official :D

http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/19/motorola-phones-no-jelly-bean-upgrade/?icid=eng_latest_art

Today,Motorola did an official list ;)

Arch Linux User ..
[Defy Android Development] Gafanhotz:
You were lost on an jungle of what? It was already discussed here on thread, and Moto already said to someone (I don't remember who) on twitter that Defy/Defy+ will not receive updates.
[Defy Android Development] juan296:
I am not on this topic often,so.. sorry Man :S

Goodnight

Arch Linux User ..
[Defy Android Development] jassi32:
33% battery drained overnight in airplane mode .....

Smartass 300/17 600/32 800/42 1000/52

Any guess ......is there any app to record and save ....what used the battery in airplane ....want a app to save it ....coz in morning my phone was battery dead.....
[Defy Android Development] jayanth1255:
No need to be sorry for any one, you just told ur openion, no need to be rude for that..
[Defy Android Development] Kaffeekranz:
Posting old news in an unrelated thread isn't an 'opinion'.

It's annoying.
[Defy Android Development] ashoks89:
Does it even matter!:p
[Defy Android Development] nidhish91:
It doesnt, but kinda strange not seeing Defy there! Like come on we all gave up hopes on Moto, they didnt released anything after 2.2, let Defy have a locked bootloader and then now this! I kinda feel like laughing on Moto coz they are a big f**king confused company! This article does give a hope that Defy MAY get an official JB, although I would never flash it on my Defy coz it will be full of **** bloatwares and stupid bugs which THEY wont bother fixing.. We have our Quarx to let us enjoy the pleasures of our beloved phone! :D
[Defy Android Development] sixaxis94:
I tried 1018 as well as the previous one of the combined builds on my mb525 and neither of them worked properly. The latest one lags like crazy so I went back to 0924. I wiped data and cache as well

Has anyone got the latest build working on their green lens defy?
[Defy Android Development] slimshady76:
Just use Boosted, the default Governor.
[Defy Android Development] piskr:
The announcement impact only phones sold in the USA. They promise that they'll listed phones outside the USA eligible to receive the upgrade or substitution later. We'll see.
[Defy Android Development] ralliartur:
Mine green is working no problem. Full wipe? Different governor?

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[Defy Android Development] turffe:
10-18 build works fine without lags. I think you need to disable in memory management: zRam, Allow purging of assets, Kernel samepage merging. Quarx in first post say that these option makes many lags.
[Defy Android Development] vrl13:
Finally one that thinks! Great advices! everyone do as he says and don't bother to read the OP!
[Defy Android Development] Fotogravin:
Only disable Allow purging of assets. About the other options quarx doesn't say anything in OP. You should set zRam as low as possible for better battery, but high enough to make the phone work smoother. So with little use: zRam off or at 10%, with medium use: 18% (default), with heavy use: 24%. zRam uses more cpu-power so more juice
[Defy Android Development] MazaMoto:
I have directly flashed 18th 2nd-boot build on Sept 2nd-init build. Just wiped cache/ dalvik before & after. No issues so far.

I am using OnDemand governor & after checking above few posta i found that all options under my memory management are disabled by default.

It consumed only 12% of battery overnight on my network. Only data was disabled.

Great going by the Quarx.
[Defy Android Development] nikhil.t:
Latest build works fine on my green lens defy!!! Give the phone some time after you upgrade it to the latest build, should be fine after that...
[Defy Android Development] jayanth1255:
Screen is not turning off when its in lock screen.. Please fix this too..
[Defy Android Development] MarcinRN:
I tested 18.10 build and I'm still getting initial lags (Defy red lens). Also boot up time hasn't changed since previous build.
[Defy Android Development] Neil12cross:
Updated my defy green lense to 10/18 build, was running zram at 10 % and allowing all options at memory managment, ui was very laggy and battery drain bad ! this morning i diabled zram and uncheckd all optoins in memory management, now got better battery life and phone is much smoother ! practicly no lags ! Thank you quarx !!:good:
[Defy Android Development] jacky8456:
I am on the latest build (18.10),

the CPU spy shows that my phone sleeps well,

but the battery dropped from 99% to 58% in 12 hours during the night,

is that normal :confused: ?
[Defy Android Development] Shrewdy:
I m planning to flash latest quarks build....but since it has a custom kernel...i m in doubt....

How easy is it to jump back to CM7 just in case dont work well for me?
[Defy Android Development] MarcinRN:
by simply restoring its cwm backup (all of its parts)
[Defy Android Development] b8892778:
...I use nova launcher instead of stock launcher

100% drop to 75% in 17 hours.
[Defy Android Development] mikrom.cz:
can I have a noob/OT question? i am sorry, i am thorough reader, but never seen this explained: what is the diferrence between cpu settings (govenor, io schedule) in phone performance setings and in the bootmenu? i always change values in both places, but is it really necesary? thanks for explanation
[Defy Android Development] txtter:
Dear Quarx

HI Quarx, Thank you so much for all of your hard works! We chinese have been using your CM10 for a long time, and your rom and kernel is just amazing !:p

I brought my defy+ about 3 mouths ago, i couldn't even imagine Jelly Beans running so smoothly on my device then. Again , Thank you with all my heart and wish u have a nice weekend :o
[Defy Android Development] deathw15h:
Umm.. quick question.

Can i flash 2nd boot 18.10 release directly over MIUI rom? or do i have to flash and earlier CM10 and follow up with the latest nightly?
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
What u change in bootmenu comes out in Performance settings... You only need to edit in bootmenu. Performance setting is for tuning,eg. u only need 800Mhz so choose it in Performance menu or switch Governor(no need of reboot to bootmenu)

Thats all I can explain :D Welcome
[Defy Android Development] txtter:
yes u can flash CM10 ,the ROM has kernel in it. just wipe data and cache ,then flash and boot
[Defy Android Development] JustinBacle:
Just a little something for those who complain about high battery drain :

You CANNOT compare cm7 battery use and cm9/10 battery use. ICS & JB have a lot more functionalities and more possibilities so that is OK if your battery last a little less.

If you really can't stand it, go back to cm7 (and stop complaining on this thread).

I think that we are very lucky to have quarkx & epsylon working very hard for our defy, so just try to be comprehensive and appreciate their work.
[Defy Android Development] Bendary:
I'll be getting my phone from repairs today so I'll start from scratch, I will first flash 3.4.2-179-2 CEE DEBLUR then root and install 2nd init then what should I do and do I have to install cm7?
[Defy Android Development] cfanmaoli:
Hello my friend,你好
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
No..if you want JB flash latest nightly..

Find the procedure in the op
[Defy Android Development] mothy1025:
Battery Drain was very high 19 hrs of boot time,there was 50% drain (88% to 38%) in this 14 hrs were deep sleep...enabled zram (10) and ksm..

Battery drain becoming very serious problem quarx must see to this..
[Defy Android Development] ralphx10:
Discussing a possible issue with a nightly release is not complaining. I'm sure everyone around here really appreciates what the devs are doing. I know I do and I can't thank them enough.

About JB using more battery than GB, I'd really like to see a source for that claim. I'm not saying you are wrong, I just can't remember ever reading about it.
[Defy Android Development] woodman:
No need to compare cm7 and cm10 battery consuption to see that there is a problem with last Quarx builds. Before custom kernel on cm10, my battery was only draining 3% for 7 hours in airplane mode (same consuption as cm7) ! Now it's 10 or 12 for the same duration. Hope Quarx will fix that soon. Many thanks to Quarx !
[Defy Android Development] Bé Yêu:
I recommended before 20120924 , battery is normal , but after 20121010 battery seem too quickly drained . I don't know why and waiting......fix this problem . Thanks Quarx:o
[Defy Android Development] aperture:
anyone getting problem with 10.18 build regarding the alarm clock? getting an error when setting the alarm. thanks.
[Defy Android Development] vvoytex:
circle percentage battery in stock options

I seems, that circle percentage battery status has been added for stock options so it`s no need to flash it separately after each upgrade anymore. Thanks you Quarx for that and for whole your hard work.
[Defy Android Development] N34S:
why you're building cm10 on 2nd-boot? I want to use the CM10 daily! :D anyway, i want to make 2nd-boot of other roms with cm10 as NAND, but they are in conflict with 2nd-boot cm10 and so i can't start them! I don't want to switch to an older version to use multiboot, i'm annoyed of its startup delay and i want to use newer version as nand. how can I get around this?

ah, one more thing.

[REPORT] i've got a problem with 20121018 build. sometimes i've got some self-reboot issues when i'm opening some applications. didn't happen with the previous build.

edit: browser and other applications that use wi-fi connection let self-reboot the system.
[Defy Android Development] TJKV:
2ndboot isn't related to multiboot. CM10 on NAND and other ROMs in sd card works, see here
[Defy Android Development] N34S:
thanks, i will retry with a different kernel.
[Defy Android Development] NickAJ:
Stuck on 300Mhz

Updated to 1810 from 2409, Green Lens Defy, upgrade went smoothly without issues.

BUT, I cannot get the CPU to run at more than 300MHz.

The maximum CPU frequency is set at 0 and when I try and change it it stays at 0. It's the same with the CPU governor, it's stuck on Boosted.

I guess I've a setting somewhere that's stopping me changing these settings. Any help please before I have to do a full data wipe.

Also I can't reboot into recovery or bootmenu, the phone just reboots normally. I have to go into the bootmenu using vol- when the blue light is on.
[Defy Android Development] MazaMoto:
Guys who still have issues with deep sleep & lags, try above. i.e Disable all in Memory Management Menu & Try to use OnDemand governor than any other. Wipe Cache / Dalvik & then see of there is any difference...

Note: Right after reboot, phone will lag for some initial 4-5 minutes as the Linux Process consumes 100% CPU @ Max. Freq. so be cool till then:angel:

Here is my battery use: Notice the Deep sleep even in network mode (Red Arrows)

I am on Red lens Defy:
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
try to disable zram until next build.
[Defy Android Development] AnkurBedi:
New Rom Battery usage screenshot and Quadrant Score on latest 2nd boot quarx ROM .
[Defy Android Development] Lightis:
screen is switching off just fine, on my defy+.. I adjusted zram,down right after upgrade. So that might be the reason, but battery consumption seems lower on 18.10.. :)
[Defy Android Development] FlashTec80:
Found a thing that made me wonder if it's really necessary. In the system folder there is a folder called fonts which at least on my phone got the size of around 20mb. Is this really necessary or is it something that could be changed?
[Defy Android Development] B4ast1:
is it worth to use ksm?
[Defy Android Development] defim:
Since i changed from 08/28 to 10/18 it takes a lot more time to fully charge. Anyone else?
[Defy Android Development] jayanth1255:
Sorry i dont know about zram, when call or message comes or just i awake the screen with power or vol button, the screen will be on all the time..
[Defy Android Development] navinshark:
New Build 4.1.2

U can use as a main rom, but thing s rom s not stable version, it may have bugs, am using as a main rom.
[Defy Android Development] nikhil.t:
I had the same problem after updating! try going to Bootmenu and changing the CPU settings from there. Change the fourth option from 1100 MHZ to 1000 MHZ... that should work..
[Defy Android Development] vedhasd:
Off topic...

I installed minimal gapps and installed google now from play store..nd yes i have 77 mb free space in sys partition and google now is also smooth....!;)
[Defy Android Development] Kyle07:
zRam does appear to be the culprit for the high battery drain rate. Thanks for pointing this out.
[Defy Android Development] Persechini:
I just figured out zRam is enabled by default :/ I'll turn it off and check how the battery will behave

Also, I have the red led on when booting, but it boots ok, so what's with that? What's triggering the red led turning on? Maybe it takes a while to get correct battery status and in the mean time it thinks it has low charge?
[Defy Android Development] nidhish91:
Is it the new minimal gapps? If yes can you link it?

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it means u have 2nd-boot mode on :|
[Defy Android Development] Persechini:
Oh, it's that then :P I don't think I picked this up in search
[Defy Android Development] vedhasd:
No buddy same ol minimal gapps quoted in OP ! just install Google now from play store... so it will get installed in internal mem and not in sys partition.... nd yea sset it to English ( INDIA) works awesome...
[Defy Android Development] kHron0S:
So did someone tried the Usb Host mode on the latest build 'cos on mine it's not working...

Sent from DefyX RED.
[Defy Android Development] TJKV:
Does anyone want an updated minimal gapps, with new stuff from the recently updated full gapps from goo.im? I've made it for myself... Also added libs to get voice chat working in Talk, removed Google now cos voice doesn't work, crashes (as vedhasd said above, installing it from market is the best)

Sent from my MB526
[Defy Android Development] nitin55:
Info about the Battery and the ROM

Strange people here having battery draining issues so i think maybe i am the lucky guy who is enjoying excellent battery life.:victory: Look at the screenshots. Screenshots were taken today morning letting the defy+ idle throughout the night with only 2g active. Also i have zram(10%) and KSM enabled.

Governor is set to Boosted.My vsel values:-300-17, 600-32, 800-42 and 1100-57.

About the ROM- The latest ROM is simply awesome. No lags and excellent performance for me. :good:

The bugs i found so far-

1)Button Backlight not working(already reported) not a big problem for me though.

2)Boot to recovery and cpu not working from the power button(also reported) also not a big problem.

Rest everything working good. Data Drops also not yet encountered.

So TY Quarx for this awesome ROM. :D
[Defy Android Development] syllogyking:
yes please, but please post it to the 'themes and apps' section. this thread is chaotic :cyclops:
[Defy Android Development] YaPeL:
nice to see people having good battery life, however, I have noted none of those screenshots include a Wi fi connection, I think thats the worse thing in quarx rom, battery life on wi-fi, at least compared to the roms of (i.e) walter, what's so different?
[Defy Android Development] Persechini:
View attachment 1417164

Here is to exemplify what happens to my wifi during sleep. This is with "Keep wifi on durring sleep" set to "Never" and "wifi idle time out" set to 5 minutes (and before zRam was turned off, in case it matters)
[Defy Android Development] TJKV:
Here it is, updated minimal gapps based on 20121011 gapps from goo.im/gapps

Removed most of the same things that were removed in the 20120726 minimal gapps in OP, including Google Search (Google Now) as it is better installed thru Play Store. But libs required for Voice chatting on Talk not removed. Also "Thinkfree.apk" (document viewer) not removed, you can delete it before flashing the zip if you wish.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3097129/gapps-jb-20121011-minimal edited.zip