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[Defy Android Development] Stupidchavs:
I'm currently using sevenrocks build, and I'm pretty happy with it thus far.

Debating whether it would be worth the hassle of backing up, wiping, flashing and restoring apps to move to Quarx's new build.

Anybody used both and can shed light on the general differences?

Is it actually that noticeable in average use? (and has camera performance drastically improved?)

I've had no issues with ringtone bugs or ghost touches, so remove those from the equation for this comparison. I'm interested purely in a comparison of their general performance, stability and battery life.
[Defy Android Development] gkkovacs:
I am using the new February 17 Quarx nightly for a day now. No ghost touches so far, and battery life is still bad: Android OS keeps the phone woken up a lot, uses a lot of battery. 4% per hour idle with wi-fi on.

Camera performance is very similar to sevenrock's build when taking photos, however video recording seems to have improved: it's easier to stop recording (it took several touches before) and saving the video is instant, it goes back to viewfinder preview right away.

Unfortunately, recorded videos are stuttering every 1-2 second when played back, and quality is still bad because resolution and video/audio bitrate are low (using Android 4.2 camera).

When modifying video quality settings in lgCamera, recording either fails completely, or (when setting higher audio sample rate) audio mutes after 10 seconds.
[Defy Android Development] woodman:
About your 4% per hour consuption, is your WIFI enabled over the mobile (3G or 2G) data ? Or WIFI only (without mobile data) ?

About the Android OS battery usage, could the explanation be what ktmbikerman said on the following quote ??
[Defy Android Development] gkkovacs:
If you turn on wifi, Android is supposed to turn off mobile data (hence the icon changing to phone only bars). But to answer your question: I have wifi on, and I do not turn mobile data off.

I always suspected that Android OS could be a proxy for some of the apps that I use, however I have no idea how to investigate that.

I don't run any games, so ktmbikerman's assumption seems to be a wild guess.
[Defy Android Development] woodman:
Yes, the icon changes to wifi bars only but i'm not sure mobile data is off in reality, because if you look into the network parameters, I think that in this case, the mobile data check box is still activated ... I can't test now because I don't have WIFI access at the moment...But, that means that your battery usage could be higher with both Mobile data and WIFI on than WIFI only.... Just a supposition...

EDIT : in my case, with 20130217 Quarx build and with mobile data on / 2G only, I have between 1% and 1.6% per hour (even if I know that network battery consuption depends on location)...Yesterday I've tested with WIFI only and I had roughly the same percentages with WIFI on (WIFI only)...

Today with 3G enabled, it was about 3% per hour....So, that's why I wonder about your 4% and your 3G and WIFI activated at the same time

OK but I thought about all kind of apps, not only games
[Defy Android Development] lenidas:
Hiii, i have trouble with wifi connection, don´t work more in the last build :'(
[Defy Android Development] soyusado:
Doesn't work in any network?

I'm running 17-02 build and don't have that problem, maybe if you reinstall the ROM or if the problem is only in one network you should restart it and see if the issue it's solved.
[Defy Android Development] veimus:
Last update delete my Google account data and some google apps (only Play Store stay untouched), i just make a cache wipe before install ROM
[Defy Android Development] ktmbikerman:
Correct... it applies to some apps too, not only games.
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
I know everything :)
[Defy Android Development] gkkovacs:
Ok, but do you have any way to investigate WHAT apps are shown as Android OS?

If not, this is only a wild guess presented as facts.
[Defy Android Development] gkovacsp:
I can see that.

I need the same info so I thought I can use your method.

Sent from my MB526
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
talk in pm
[Defy Android Development] Daimonion1980:
hey guys.

I'm new to rooting defy. But not to rooting at all (I own a Desire HD wich is rooted and customized) At the moment i'm trying to get the CM10 Nightly to work with an MB525.

Rooted the phone via SuperonClickRoot and Installed 2ndInit and CWM via SndInit-1.4.2.apk After this i installed CM10-20120723-NIGHTLY-mb525.zip via CWM and gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip. But directly after installing i figured out that there is a newer version. ^^

Okay, so back to Recovery and installed CM10-20130217-NIGHTLY-mb526.zip.

Okay, phone works well except slow booting. And low recognition several minutes after booting. Hmm, okay, maybe this is due to first boots, and setup procedure. After some minutes behaviour is okay i think.

But then i took a look into the Overclock menu and saw that the processor is only powering with 300 MHZ (saw it in first entry) the third entry (max frequency) is zero too. I think this is not normal. Even CPUStats does not show anything.

Do i have to install a actual kernel too? I'm confused regarding the sbfs system from motorla (don'tknow this before) and update instructions i found here many xda defy guides.

Can you help me? The phone is a green lens phone, MB525, and original FW was a 2.5.1 Froyo T-Mobile Germany.

Do i have installed the correct version of CM10-nightly? Do i have to install another file i need? Why are the cpu settings not showing the right way? Is the slow booting behaviour normal?

Thanks in Advance for your help!
[Defy Android Development] niksy+:
You should have wiped data and cache before installing the first CM10 and, well, before installing the second one, too, since it's a lot newer build. If you didn't wipe data and cache beforehand, I recommend you repeat the installation with the wipes.

If the problem with the CPU clocks persists, go to Bootmenu > CPU Settings > load defaults > save > reboot and you should be fine. ;)

And lease head to the CM10 thread in the DEFY General forum next time you have a problem! :good:
[Defy Android Development] sevenrock:
@Quarx: Compiling your current JB image bails out with this error:

frameworks/base/fmradio/java/com/stericsson/hardware/fm/IFmReceiver.aidl:22: couldn't find import for class com.stericsson.hardware.fm.FmBand
frameworks/base/fmradio/java/com/stericsson/hardware/fm/IFmReceiver.aidl:23: couldn't find import for class com.stericsson.hardware.fm.IOnStateChangedListener
frameworks/base/fmradio/java/com/stericsson/hardware/fm/IFmReceiver.aidl:24: couldn't find import for class com.stericsson.hardware.fm.IOnStartedListener
frameworks/base/fmradio/java/com/stericsson/hardware/fm/IFmReceiver.aidl:25: couldn't find import for class com.stericsson.hardware.fm.IOnErrorListener
frameworks/base/fmradio/java/com/stericsson/hardware/fm/IFmReceiver.aidl:26: couldn't find import for class com.stericsson.hardware.fm.IOnScanListener
frameworks/base/fmradio/java/com/stericsson/hardware/fm/IFmReceiver.aidl:27: couldn't find import for class com.stericsson.hardware.fm.IOnForcedPauseListener
frameworks/base/fmradio/java/com/stericsson/hardware/fm/IFmReceiver.aidl:28: couldn't find import for class com.stericsson.hardware.fm.IOnForcedResetListener
frameworks/base/fmradio/java/com/stericsson/hardware/fm/IFmReceiver.aidl:29: couldn't find import for class com.stericsson.hardware.fm.IOnRDSDataFoundListener
frameworks/base/fmradio/java/com/stericsson/hardware/fm/IFmReceiver.aidl:30: couldn't find import for class com.stericsson.hardware.fm.IOnSignalStrengthListener
frameworks/base/fmradio/java/com/stericsson/hardware/fm/IFmReceiver.aidl:31: couldn't find import for class com.stericsson.hardware.fm.IOnStereoListener
frameworks/base/fmradio/java/com/stericsson/hardware/fm/IFmReceiver.aidl:32: couldn't find import for class com.stericsson.hardware.fm.IOnExtraCommandListener
frameworks/base/fmradio/java/com/stericsson/hardware/fm/IFmReceiver.aidl:33: couldn't find import for class com.stericsson.hardware.fm.IOnAutomaticSwitchListener
[Defy Android Development] Kayant:
Try this

cd into framework base

$ git revert 3c7f9e5e

$ git revert 1ca9dee

Problem is caused by this commit

If you are still getting errors PM me so we don't cutter here......
[Defy Android Development] Daimonion1980:
Oh i forgot to write. Of course i did wipe cache, data and dalvik before install the new rom.

Setting the defaults in bootmenu solved every problem i had till now. Great Rom so far.

Thanks for your help.
[Defy Android Development] YetAnotherForumUser:
Instead of reverting the commit you can also fix the bug. Apply the following patch in build/:

diff --git a/core/pathmap.mk b/core/pathmap.mk
index 91a7fd4..ab55fd6 100644
--- a/core/pathmap.mk
+++ b/core/pathmap.mk
@@ -101,6 +101,7 @@ FRAMEWORKS_BASE_SUBDIRS := \
keystore \
icu4j \
voip \
+ fmradio \
)

#

Quarx, please apply this patch (and send it upstream). It fixes the build, even though this radio code does not do us much good as of yet.
[Defy Android Development] junesoung:
https://github.com/Quarx2k/android_build/pull/1

I send a pull request

Thanks YetAnotherForumUser :good:
[Defy Android Development] woodman:
Hi all, @Quarx :

Thanks for the 20130217 build but after an uptime of 36h, the "ringtone" bug still occurs.

I haven't rebooted my phone yet, so if I can check or do something to hunt the issue, I'm ready.

Sent from my Defy MB525 green lens
[Defy Android Development] fairxda:
Ringtonebug still there. Quarx-Rom from 20130217. Noticed at 37 hours uptime.

But the rom seems a little bit smoother than before.

Defy+.
[Defy Android Development] ccav2000:
Haven't seen the bug yet, but I guess it is only a matter of time. Which just proves that 2.6.32.60 is unusable for the DEFY as it is right now. I will revert to the last sevenrock build as soon as I confirm the bug myself.

EDIT: Just tried to call my DEFY from another phone, uptime is 37 hours. No ringtone could be heard. Bug is still present, this build is ususable, sorry. Going back to sevenrock's.
[Defy Android Development] Alex.D76:
Ringtonebug has also arrived on mine. Uptime 34h...

Screen is now my most battery eating process with 44%. Android OS got 20%.
[Defy Android Development] ccav2000:
At this point I wish Quarx would do a new build but with the 2.6.32-test branch of his git for the kernel. I had to stay with the 17/02 build, going back to the older sevenrock's build gave me a bootloop, and I am not willing to wipe currently, too much stuff to reinstall and configure, don't have the time.
[Defy Android Development] woodman:
I think you had bootloop because you are in ext4 data and perhaps your nandroid is in ext3 data... Just format to ext3 before restoring...

Sent from my Defy MB525 green lens
[Defy Android Development] ccav2000:
No such case, I am in ext4 since November and was using sevenrock's build for a while now. Also I did not try to restore a nandroid, just tried to install the previous build on top. For now I guess I have to wait.
[Defy Android Development] vic160890:
Sd card mount as r/o

Hi, I am close to 34 hours of use on the latest quarx build, and noticed that the SDcard keeps mounting as r/o. The reason I noticed this is because I use swift key as keyboard and as I type it keeps telling me that it couldn't save the new words

I have not yet encountered the ringtone bug, but I believe it is not very much time before it will appear.

The only way I can use the sdcard again is if I unmount and remount it. (Storage / settings ). First time it happened was last night after @ 26 hours uptime, I was installing a great number of apps because I had a clean install . And it seems to appear every time I use WiFi .

Does this occur only to me ? Are there others with this problem ?

I have a log saved after remounting the sdcard .I hope it includes something usable to determine the issue.
[Defy Android Development] bone101:
AW: [JB] CM10 Android 4.1.2 for the Defy(+)

3% Akku usage over night (10 hours) in airplane mode.

But deactivating airplane mode in morning (only) causes reboot.

No problems with ext4 format of data partition

17.2 qbuild

MB525 red lense
[Defy Android Development] woodman:
OK, my bad.
[Defy Android Development] phobos_1984:
Almost 39h of uptime. No ringtone bug for now. But the data connection bug is almost unbearable. I'm having at least 4 drops in an hour...
[Defy Android Development] trurl3:
Quarks's 20130217 on Defy with red lense - ringtone bug is there... reverting to sevenrock's ROM.
[Defy Android Development] vedhasd:
Well this may be a lame suggestion:

I had installed CNA 3.6.6 and i updated it to quarx 20130110 build and there is no ringtone bug!

I just did normal wipe cache, and updated ! Worked for me, green lense!
[Defy Android Development] configuration:
On Sevenrock's latest build:

I can't seem to set gmail to never vibrate.

It keeps on vibrating even with the vibrate setting in the app turned off.

Seems to be related to Jelly Bean but I never had this with Quarx's builds.

Any suggestions?

EDIT: Furthermore, I can not set a different ringtone for for example sms and gmail.

They all use the same default ringtone.

I did a clean install. Anyone can confirm this?

EDIT2: I messed up in profiles. None of the above was due to the ROM.
[Defy Android Development] mahenkpatel:
I ma on the latest build from Quarx. What is actually Ringtone bug? an dhow do I test if its there?
[Defy Android Development] measel:
AW: [JB] CM10 Android 4.1.2 for the Defy(+)

any solutions for wifi dropping out every few seconds when dl'ing apps?
[Defy Android Development] woodman:
First, you must have a custom ringtone stored on sdcard.

You just have to keep the phone run as normal, just wait for example 36h or 48h or more if necessary. Then try to call your phone with another one : you will notice that the ringtone will not ring at all or ring with sound hiccups.
[Defy Android Development] eugenchr:
i not have this bug
[Defy Android Development] kryzeK:
Can someone explain to me what is this "Ringtone bug" that both speak? Because since you guys talk about him I never found any bug like this.
[Defy Android Development] eugenchr:
not custom ringtone but still bug here
[Defy Android Development] woodman:
Ok, I wasn't sure about necessity to have a custom ringtone or not to reproduce the bug... Thanks.

BTW, the ringtone issue is obviously only one symptom of one bigger problem... The "it-does-not-ring" issue is a good way to detect the phenomenon...
[Defy Android Development] lenidas:
For any network dosen't work, and i restart it but don´t solved.
[Defy Android Development] filojs:
Hi, which version i have to flash in moto defy green lens? I've installed one from the section of 2nd boot, but it keeps in a reboot loop...

Enviado desde mi Desire HD usando Tapatalk 2
[Defy Android Development] gkkovacs:
I can confirm the ringtone bug is back on Quarx 20130217.

The problem is: sevenrock's build with the November kernel has different call related bugs, like random (not frequent) hangups, data dropouts, etc.
[Defy Android Development] fryta22:
Odp: [JB] CM10 Android 4.1.2 for the Defy(+)

New build + JellyX is almost perfect. Battery is better than other builds. Thak you all.
[Defy Android Development] sevenrock:
Yesterday I compiled exactly such a ROM using this:

repo sync

Then applied this patch:

--- cm10_backup/.repo/manifest.xml 2013-01-14 18:12:44.000000000 +0100
+++ cm10/.repo/manifest.xml 2013-02-17 21:31:10.066583916 +0100
@@ -337,7 +337,7 @@
<project path="external/bootmenu" name="Quarx2k/android_external_bootmenu" />
<project path="external/hostapd" name="tpruvot/android_external_hostapd" remote="github" revision="ics" />
<project path="packages/apps/HwaSettings" name="royale1223/HwaSettings" revision="master" />
- <project path="jordan-kernel" name="Quarx2k/jordan-kernel" revision="2.6.32" />
+ <project path="jordan-kernel" name="Quarx2k/jordan-kernel" revision="2.6.32-test" />
<project path="system/wlan/ti" name="tpruvot/android_system_wlan_ti" revision="gingerbread" />
<project path="prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/arm/android-toolchain-eabi-linaro-4.7" name="Quarx2k/android-toolchain-eabi-linaro-4.7" revision="4.7-2012.10" />
<project path="external/wpa_supplicant_8_ti" name="platform/external/wpa_supplicant_8_ti" remote="omapzoom" revision="jb-release" />

Again another round of

repo sync

to retrieve branch 2.6.32-test (is there a better way?), then compiled the usual way:

./vendor/cm/get-prebuilts
source build/envsetup.sh && brunch mb526

The build worked not very well at the beginning because I use the Seeder app,

which installs rngd of its own. Now the Quarx git repo also delivers rngd, so I

ended up having two rngd processes running at the same time which are

slowing down the phone. Therefore I stopped the Seeder controlled rngd, but

the phone "feels" a bit more laggy with the Quarx rngd (entropy shown by

Seeder is 4096, so the Quarx basically rngd works).

Quote from Seeder app thread:

I guess this stuff is missing in Quarx' implementation, therefore I will remove

rngd from my next ROM. If someone wants to use it (in Quarx image it is not

optional), he/she can install the Seeder app.

I will also try the patch from YetAnotherForumUser to solve the FM radio

compile bug.

So my next ROM will be based on current Quarx git, as usual, with the

following changes:

- kernel 2.6.32.9 from Quarx branch 2.6.32-test, this kernel provides working ringtones, kernel_radio-modules3.diff (mentioned here) removed

- compile fix for FM radio

- fix translation related compile bug in apps/Phone/ (@Quarx: Your commit did not fix it)

Any comments/suggestions about this?
[Defy Android Development] Vitor_Hugo:
Hello, I also know 2 commits from Quarx's github that aren't working on his ROM too:

1. This commit, bug still present on his February 17th build

2. A poll request then a commit about translating the "Read" option on Messaging notification to PT-BR language, it still in English

If you could give a look at it and fix on your build I would be thankful :)
[Defy Android Development] sevenrock:
The resulting image is laggy in comparison to my last image

cm-10-20130209-UNOFFICIAL-mb526.zip

I installed my todays ROM and 20130209 both on a previously wiped phone,

the difference is noticable. Therefore I will not release that ROM.
[Defy Android Development] fideliofidelio:
Ringtone hiccups here too. The rest is working fine.

I'm on quarx 17 02 green lens.
[Defy Android Development] kovaxo:
i were on 12/23 build with jelly+ kernel , now wiped cach then updated 17/2 the phone it self rebooted while installing and hanged at motorola logo any idea ?
[Defy Android Development] lief.erl:
Could you also look into black screen issue with JellyX? It will make that kernel perfect(for normal usage).
[Defy Android Development] d3xt3r:
The thing I'd I'm not facing any data drops or WiFi drops or any kind of drops nor the ringtone bug.. Maybe m lucky enough.. always flashed the rom from stock ie rsdlite then root then set up from scratch.. N my custom ringtone are copied to root/media/audio/ringtone... N the 17th Feb build USD the smoothest n most stable build for me.. Thank you quarx fot your great work... You kept our defy defying Motorola:thumbup::p
[Defy Android Development] YetAnotherForumUser:
As I have never experienced this black screen issue on my phone it will be hard to track it down without more information. Have a look and/or post to the JellyX thread, maybe someone over there has more to contribute... make sure to read the first sentence of that thread: If you want to report something head over here and make a "new Issue". You'll find that it has already been reported.
[Defy Android Development] ccav2000:
YetAnotherForumUser's patches have been already committed in Quarx's git here.
[Defy Android Development] niksy+:
Blechd0se said that he thinks he fixed the problem in the latest (17/02 CFS JellyX is available) version, but no one has yet bothered to report on that :p (I, too, was lucky enough not to have the problem on my phone.)

And Quarx has added the cpu frequencies viewing fix patch, thanks to YAFU :) - https://github.com/Quarx2k/android_...mmit/d6e3e27673672d83b965b574479df70cf6dde83e

It's nice to see that it has come to fixing details here, CM10 has become a great ROM :)

Cheers, everybody!
[Defy Android Development] lenidas:
i have trouble with wifi connection, don´t work for any red.
[Defy Android Development] niksy+:
The kernel black screen issue only happens at boot... The screen remains black after boot logo, nothing else happens. For some wiping data fixes the problem. So, if your screen is going off at any other time... Hope it fixes itself :D

New nightly up'ed by Quarx!

http://quarx2k.ru/cm10-2ndboot-nightly-defy(+)/

Changelog, afaik - fixed cpu frequencies info, kernel reverted back to -9, call recording improvements
[Defy Android Development] ennarr:
New Build!!

http://quarx2k.ru/cm10-2ndboot-nightly-defy(+)/CM10-20130220-NIGHTLY-mb526.zip

Anyone tried it?
[Defy Android Development] sbE:
no problem, you can simply update your installation with this new build. in recovery: wipe cache, wipe dalvik, flash zip from sdcard, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, reboot.
[Defy Android Development] YetAnotherForumUser:
Some calculations around the observed cpu, wakelock and battery stats with JellyX

I'm currently running a build based around Quarx' git (synced 20130216) with some added patches (see earlier posts) and the JellyX kernel (synced 20130216). This build has now been running for about half a day. As before, Android System is on top in the battery stats and some services hog wakelocks (AlarmManager is the biggest sinner with 11%, 1h 31m). As before, Android OS does not show up in the battery statistics while it does in 2.6.32.9.

CPU stats show the following since boot (rounded to minutes, mostly):

14 h since boot

1 GHz 11 m

800 MHz 22s

600 MHz 7m

300 MHz 1h 34m

Deep Sleep 12h 30m

Oddly enough, BBS shows two rows marked with Deep Sleep. The first row has 0s of use, otherwise they are identical.

Battery stats show a Screen on time of 1 h 7m. Wifi has been running for 3 h 13 m. The phone is set to turn off Wifi when the screen is off, idle time is 15 minutes. It also tells me Android System kept the phone awake for 1h 47m.

From these numbers it shows that the phone has NOT been in deep sleep for 1 h 30m. Of those 1 h 30 m the screen has been on for 1 h 7 m, leaving 27 m of screen-off wake time. Now that power hal is enabled again the phone reduces the maximum available clock rate with screen off to the second available clock rate (and not the second highest as I stated in an earlier post). This probably accounts for the 7m of activity in the 600MHz frequency. Those 11m at 1GHz are mostly from my experimenting with the thing to see what I can break (not much yet, by the way).

The outcome of these calculations leaves me wondering where the missing 1h 20m of wake time went which Android System is responsible for according to the battery statistics...

Battery consumption is comparable to earlier kernels, including 2.6.32.9. Overnight it lost 0.3% per hour (in airplane mode), during the day this rises to about 0.7% per hour.

I suspect that the battery and wakelock statistics show erroneous data in 2.6.32.60. The discrepancies between the observed battery consumption, the reported 'battery hogs' and the wakelocks in BBS just does not seem to add up. As shown by these calculations it literally does not add up. I'll keep on running this build for a bit more to see whether problems crop up, if they don't I'll post it here for others to test. If anyone has any suggestions as to what change in 2.6.32.60 can be the culprit for the observed battery/wakelock anomalities please speak up. If anyone has any deeper knowledge about what goes in to creating these statistics, let us hear. I could delve into the source to find out but I have to much to do as it is.
[Defy Android Development] davo.arto:
Installed here. It boots and works fine.

Defy (green lens)