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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] numbnutsuk:
They are working on the fix to the black clipping and the Emmc bug!

Galaxy note 2

not sent from an I phone....cos I'm not a fanny
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Zamboney:
Have they specifically stated that there won't be any clipping anywhere? Link please.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] numbnutsuk:
Samsung are not going to fix anything for the note 1. Be it black clipping or the brick bug..

That will cost them.

Instead they will fix it with the note 2 and make us pay fot it.

Simple business
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
Its not that I expect anything from Samsung, but atleast they have to givevan explanation now as this is in the media. I just bought the note a week ago and everything is perfect. No spots, no tints, no hues, nothing. Everything looks flawless untill I apply a dark wallpaper or play any video. And thats when you realise how disgusting it looks. Even HD videos. Everybody knows that the Note isnt cheap and here in India, nothing is easy. It takes a month or more to recieve a product after warranty. The service team is so bothered about fixing your device as it comes back scratched and scuffed and with other new issues. Replacement period here is 4days and going through that itself is a pain. I still remember waiting for my GSII replacement for almost 9hrs trying to explain to the blind engineers about the Yellow tint which was obvious on the left side of the display. Showed them all the threads online regarding this widespread issue, as it was a 'one of a kind' issue for them. After finally waiting for hours, they finally gave me a DOA with 'screen fade' as the issue. And when my next GSII exhibited the same issues and I went back for replacement the same day, they refused to replace it telling they can only process a DOA for a customer once. They called the Head office here and the retarded 'engineer' said that he couldnt see any tints while he clearly accepted that there is a slight yellow tint on the left side at my face. Finally after talking to Samsung Head office here and after a lot of arguements and hours of waiting, they finally gave me a second DOA. And guess what, the third one was just marginanally better or so I felt but the tint was staring at you on the face. But I gave up and decided to live with it due to the experience I went through. Luckily a kernel update later seemed to fix or hide the issue. Hence, I dont prefer going for warranty or fighting for replacement (which is almost impossible now as its been a week or more) over an issue which may still persist or another new random issue. So for the money I paid, atleast I deserve an explanation from Samsung before I decide what to do. Thats what made me report this to Gsmarena. I wonder why people here just decided to live with it when the issue was stabbing you at the face without a solution and its been almost a year.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
I got my gnote 3 days ago I'm on Cm9 and don't have that but my screen sometimes goes from perfect to intermitent yellowish back to perfect again.. Don't know if this its a known issue or a Cm9 kernel issue
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] CONTACTMC:
I have been living with it, but only due to the reasons you habe given, I am on my third Note, all have had the black crush, I called samsung only to be told that they do not know of yhe proble (thats a lie) and that I need to send my third brand new device in fir repair, I told em to stick it. I am just so fed up with hitting my head against a brick wall that I have pretty much given up on this ever being fixed.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] violentgoomba:
Thank you for letting GSM arena know. I don't think anyone should have to live with a defective product especially if it costs an arm and a tooth. Outside of the US, people pay full price for these things and that's why companies like Samsung need to take it seriously. I don't care if the number of defective units is small, the fact that it exists means that Samsung has f****d up and needs to come out with a fix. AND if they can't rectify it via software, then recall the damn things. Owners of defective units or even just sympathizers should be posting like crazy over at GSMARENA and other news channels if we really want Samsung to take action.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
I agree with you that chances are few that a fix may come out, but we deserve an explanation for the kind of money we paid and a solution whatever be it. As far as I've seen, most phones here in India are affected. Atleast every phone I've seen and judging by the comments in the original threads, a lot more. Hence, this isnt an isolated case at all. And when every phone in the vicinity experiences it, it becomes very difficult to get a warranty here in India as Samsung immediately blasts out that it is a feature rather than a defect.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
Using applications such as a screen filter or Screen Adjuster is pointless as it reduces the contrast and makes the blacks grayer to hide the issue. And for the resulting contrast, it would have been better going for an LCD panel rather than calling it an AMOLED. My GS2 never had any problems playing dark scenes and blacks were pitch black. But the note's screen isnt even true black in the dark. But then most AMOLEDs still look dark gray in darkness but atleast every other AMOLED based device I've seen has played back videos and images well and blacks were jet black in real life situations and I've never noticed black crush or clipping on any other phone. On my Note, the black and purplish pixellation is visible in a well lit room. So its really unpleasant to watch any video or look at any dark image. But the whites and other colours are perfect and browsing is a treat. Thats what makes me feel this isnt a screen or hardware defect
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
Could everyone who feel their Notes are affected by the black crush/clipping, please leave comments on the gsmarena article. Samsung should know the severity of the issue from the number of comments on that article. Only then will they respond to the situation. In the meanwhile, I'm mailing other reputed tech blogs to bring this issue to light. Lets wait and hope for the best.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bigstarrynight:
I tend to agree with you. I cant remember having problems with stills, just video. I'll not go through the whole rigmarole of the various tests, but suffice to say that I feel confident that I managed to isolate this to software.

I've posted on the comments @gsmarena and dropped in my penny worth about the eMMc issues. My thanks to you for making this effort and getting it a wider attention. Please let us know of the other blog/web sites when you get their attention.

Cheers
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
Its been almost 24hrs since the article came up on gsmarena and we havent heard from Samsung yet.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ermeda:
..and I'm afraid we we'll not hear them.

As far as I know Sammy is well aware about this issue, there is a post that also cover this issue (from Supercurio) but now it has been closed.

Unfortunately Sammy prefer to release new device and not to investigate in faulty one....sad rules of businness.

Bye
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bigstarrynight:
Persistent, focused pressure.

But yes, the big corp does work that way, until public pressure hurts the corporate image.

Persistent, focused pressure.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hagba:
Because there is a very simple fix to it...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] numbnutsuk:
It'd say its that boring cm9 look that does it. Try the new 4.0.4 Samsung stock its perfect
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kcube989:
Samsung would probably just give a generic reply and then continue on ignoring the issue.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] zkyevolved:
I've commented on their site as well.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hagba:
In the Video player of your choice go to the settings disable the Auto Brightness (uncheck) and move the lever all the way up to full brightness to level 15 it is I guess,and in the phone settings I always chose the Dynamic Mode.

I have tried on both Stock ICS 4.0.4 Video player and MXPlAYER,and I can see no black clipping issue.

This is what I wrote on the GSMArena oppinion board,it works with me with all ICS I have tried,why dont you yourself give it a try?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
Why do you want to try to hide a flaw and then pretend it doesnt exist?? When we pay this kind of money for a device, we should have the freedom to use our device the way we want to. Decent Video playback is a basic feature of any phone today and the Note seriously fails to deliver here. Moreover what you are doing is to try to find a workaround to visually hide the existing issue. The phone should play videos or display images decently at any brightness or any screen mode. This is how the specifications are on paper and this is what we paid for. And that is what we are fighting for. To gain justice from samsung for the money we paid. Each one of us, spent our hard earned money on this device and we deserve an explanation and a solution. So kindly support the cause rather than living with a workaround. Because, when the Note 2 comes out, we may never get a fix. So this is our final chance.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bigstarrynight:
This has absolutely no effect when played via HDMI
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
Do you mean to say the clipping, pixellation and black crush exists even when connected to an external display via HDMI?

Are you sure its not the source video which may be of poor quality?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] CONTACTMC:
Can people who have perfect Notes do us a favour and please stop posting in these threads, u are not helping us who are suffering with this issue.

Bottom line is this:

I have had 3 Notes, all of them have this issue.

The source material plays back fine on all other devices I own, black crush only on the Note. This includes other Amoled screens including the Nexus s, and Omnia 7.

Encoding does not seem to make a difference, I get this on high quality encodes.

The issue is only really noticable when you are looking at the display when you are in a dark place, ef in bed with lights off.

Can people who have good Notes for the love of god please stop saying there is not a problem, because there is.

Thanks.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
For me, its visible even in ambient room lighting. Video playback sucks to the point that I regret buying this device over my SGS2. I watch a lot of videos on my phones and after getting the note, I've watched none. It really disturbs me. All the Grayish, purplish and black pixellation.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bigstarrynight:
Absolutely. To confirm: Video played on the Note has black crush, the same video played via HDMI from the Note has exactly the same black crush, and the same video played directly via usb is perfect. Display used, Sony 42" Bravia.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] giri@xda:
Good job done. I have also left a comment on GSM Arena. Hope all of our comments generate bad press that would make Samsung sit-up & fix the issue.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
If your finding is true, it means it may not a problem with the gamma calibration of the screens like we thought but maybe it has something to do with the GPU or display driver. Otherwise, the same clipping would never show up on an external display.

But then how would the at&t Note users face the same issues? Their notes run on the Qualcomm platform which is an entirely different chipset with a different GPU which also translates to different kernel and drivers. Yet, they also face the same issues.

So either there is something wrong beyond my understanding or maybe the source video you used.

And you say that the video via HDMI showed clipping but via USB played perfect. What do you mean by this? The note doesnt have a different HDMI port but uses the microUsb port with an MHL adapter. So I really didnt get what you meant to say.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] undrwater:
Perhaps playing the video from the phone as USB storage. This could disqualify the file as the culprit if it played without the issue.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] RoyaL:
When you connect via HDMI the Note is responsible to render the video to your output. If you put that same video in a usb pen and connect to that same output to play it, the tv is the one that renders the image. If you have black crush via HDMI, then it's software / drivers related, not the Notes's screen itself.

I also have an MHL adapter. I'll run the same test during the weekend.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bigstarrynight:
OK lets have another go ;)

1. the source is fine, 1080p and as you would expect, compressed to a reasonable level where it is still reproduced on a full sized screen 42". When the source is fed to the Sony Bravia direct from a USB memory stick or direct from PC there is no black clip at all.

2. The same source file transferred to the Note clearly shows black clip on the screen of the Note when played back. MXPlayer or whatever, its the same.

3. Again, playing the same source on the Note via HDMI using the MHL adaptor to the same Sony Bravia, its there, the black clip.

So, we have checked that the source is not at fault, and by comparing what is played on the Note and what is displayed on the Bravia, I feel this leads us towards a software issue, rather than hardware.

But, now comes the confusion. If we assume we all have the same software, then we should all see the same fault, but we don't. Some see a perfect picture and many others don't. The only thing that we may have different, is hardware. I suggested some time ago, that it would be worth using an app that identifies who made the hardware in our devices, and to post that information when we wrote about our issues. This has never been taken up, which I feel is a shame, because the components that go to make this product comes from many different suppliers, and within that, many different factories. Samsung, for the man part only 'assemble' the product. But one person even went as far to tell me I was full of sh*t. Well that is just one persons view, and he is entitled to free speech. BUT, it is the hardware that may needs investigating, and for too long this part of the detail has been missing.

Its really painful to go this deep, but its worth it, because this is the only variable that so far has gone un-examined, yet could shed light upon why some have the perfect product, and others don't.

Please people, if my post hurts your eyes, don't throw me an insult, just hit your block button. I'll respect that.

Thanks :cyclops:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] CONTACTMC:
^^^^^^Spot on mate!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Count_Zaroff:
This is definitely software related. When I was on GB (2.3.6), videos played perfectly, pitch black was pitch black, even with so-so encodings. After the upgrade to 4.0.4, black crushing is definitely there, and I hadn't seen it before. So a good guess is indeed faulty display drivers and/or codecs.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hagba:
Because this is a hardware Amoled large screen flow and whoever says otherwise is trying hiding behind his finger, neither you or Samsung can do anything except hiding it as was partially hidden n the GB, do a search for a comment I left in the main thread which was discontinued by the famous OP.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
This is a nice find and if this is the case, this should mean its not a problem with the actual screen but the display driver. But then why the At&t Note on a qualcomm platform also experience the same issues remains unexplained.

And about different people having varying degrees of this issue. Maybe it has got something to do with different regional firmwares having different settings.

I know I'm talking utter crap here and I wonder why developers like supercurio never tried this out before.

So in the end, question remains why the crush and clipping show up even on an external display when connected via MHL.

Maybe more people with MHL adapters should try and report this. I myself dont have one. And if this turns out to be true for everyone, we can try to ask chainfire to look into this as he is an expert in graphics related kernels.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
I dont see how you are helping in anyway. If you're ready to live with a flaw by trying to hide it and then pretend it doesnt exist, thats upto you. I personally dont prefer turning the brightness all the way up to the maximumbto watch a video and I know that many here would agree with me. The phone should display images and videos at any brightness, even in the lowest without any flaws as per specs. Atleast thats what I paid for.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hagba:
Yes we all have paid for a phone with flawed screen, specially the early adapters as myself and since over 7 months now, and no software remedy had been found, at list the late buyers had the chance to read about the issue and avoid getting one, it looks like Samsung either doesn't care or can't do a darn thing about it which in both cases is the same at least for me since I'm impatiently waiting the release of the iPhone 5.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
Samsung still seems to ignore this. Guess we havent made enough noise. I have mailed the same to gizmodo. I dont have any hopes they'll publish it though.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bigstarrynight:
I think developers find it frustrating to hit a moving target, which might be (is) the case with this particular problem.

In a nutshell, using the MHL you are seeing what the device screen sees from the units hardware/software, but on a display of your choice

This all starts to bring back memories of the Intel Pentium Pro fiasco back in 1994. The chip had a floating point error, effectively it could not count properly, and it did not affect all chips either. Intel was initially dismisive about the fault, but when ppl used the internet to share their experience, this caught the attention of the media. Intel finally agreed to replace the chip to anyone who had the fault and asked for a replacement. The final cost to Intel in 1994 is estimated at $475 million.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
How come all the devs missed this when they were initially working on the clipping issues? Everybody came to the conclusion that it was a problem with the affected screens. It could also be the GPU. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the same issues persist even on an external display, its more or less the GPU. This could be kernel related or even hardware. I got my Note with ICS 4.0.3 preinstalled. Its manufactured in Vietnam and is part of the February 2012 batch. Atleast thats what thw box says.

The Gamma test image shows up to 4 and then its black. But something intresting to note is, when I enable "Force GPU acceleration" from the developer options, I can see all the way to 1. This is in the Standard screen mode. Another intresting thing to note is when I installed the speedmod kernel K3-7, I can see 3 and then it clips to black. This is in the standard mode without any GPU acceleration.

How can we bring this thread back into the developers attention? I would really like to know what does the Chainfire dev has to tell about this.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bigstarrynight:
Using MHL/HDMI eliminates the phones screen from the loop. That now leaves software and the remaining hardware. My first reaction was software, but if that was the case, then everyone should experience the same picture quality, but reading the forums, that doesn't appear to be the case. So we now have to turn our attention to hardware and component vendor supplied drivers, but which bit is the question. So in short order, I believe you have understood correct.

What you have done is started to explore the hardware and how it is configured. Interesting that you see, on, I presume stock ICS, level 4, yet with speedmod kernel K3-7 you see level 3, both without GPU acceleration. It could just be a quirk, but not to be discounted.

It would be very helpful if someone like Chainfire could pitch in. It must be remembered though, that we might (are) getting to the level of programming expertise that the devs are not into because of lack of specs released by samsung, and indeed not a level you would expect devs to work at. If I can find one of the spec files compiled from the last Note I owned before RTMing it, I might go direct to the component manufacturers and see what support they offer, if any. At least there might be a chance of shedding more light.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
Guys, we are making progress. Check this out.

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/07/13/samsung-galaxy-note-display-problem-could-be-kernel-glitch/
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
Do check out the original post for updates. This has been published by 3 more blogs.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] CONTACTMC:
Nice, lets keep hitting em!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] amey2606:
Hello XDA Community,

After reading a lot of threads and posts, I still have no idea what the issue with the Notes display is............

So can anybody please explain it to me in a detailed manner...........

Please...........

The issue suffered on my Notes display is that when i view a black wallpaper in Gallery in total darkness (night) i get small random black patches on the screen, like some black paint has fallen onto it, or the pixels in that area are dead...........

Anybody have any idea what this issue is.............???????

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks. :-)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
You've described the problem yourself. This is what I experience.too. Dark shadows in images and videos look blown out. And even I have those black pixellation in dark photos. Dont worry. its not dead pixels or anything. The Note cant just display all the shades of grey. We are trying to find out why.

In the meanwhile, could you please give details on when you purchased the device, the date of manufacture and the place of manufacture. It will be found on a label on your box. Mine is manufactured in Vietnam and its from the Feb 2012 batch.

Do you have purplish and black pixellation when playing dark scenes in videos?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bigstarrynight:
To keep up the pressure:

Samsung have a fairly robust presence on twitter. Most blogs, and all of the ones mentioned so far have twitter links. Please consider tweeting these articles to get a wider apprectiation. Also use these hash tags #galaxynote #ics #galaxy #note #android Use all of them together if you can. If you spot someone tweeting these issues, please RT (re-tweet), this again helps to get a wider audience. Every time samsung tweets marketing blurb REPLY to them with a question asking when are they going to fix the black clip and the eMMc brickbug.

It does work, remember twitter has more or less been graded military strength social networking, used extensively and effectively during the arab spring. Surely we can get the same for ourselves. The only enemy is apathy. :good:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Burbruee:
I'm not noticing any clipping over MHL->hdmi on my TV unlike poster on page 4. Clipping is really bad on the note but yeah I don't notice it on the big screen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] satishp:
Has come up in a few more blogs. Check original post. I mailed gizmodo. They didnt publish it. Hope they do.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] indie:
I reported the issue to gsm arena back in January. They did nothing. I still should have the email in my sent items. I linked to all other posts at the time like the screen issues video issues thread.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bigstarrynight:
Do not feel dispirited. It can take a few goes to get noticed. It could be that they received several emails, one of which is yours, and that tipped the balance. Its starting to work, keep going. Use twitter and face book as well.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] fearkillerr:
I had even more clipping and black blocks while watching the video on gsm arena demonstrating the black clipping lmao.