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[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
well said!

Might add: XDA is NOT a democracy!
[Defy Android Development] NickAJ:
Best SBF

Which is the best sbf to use?

I appreciate it depends on whether you have defy or defy+ but is there a better one to use to go with this rom?

Also can you reflash an sbf using a zip file, or do you need to use RSD lite?

Thanks.
[Defy Android Development] ennarr:
go here: http://source.android.com/

and make ur own rom :)
[Defy Android Development] TeeJay3800:
Just a reminder to everyone that all posts on XDA must be in ENGLISH ONLY. Any posts not in English will be deleted. Thank you. :)
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
This is a little OT:

It is possible to test this ROM (with kernel) on the android emulator?

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[Defy Android Development] j814wong:
How do i install the update? Do I flash the latest full rom, 10.18 then the update for it followed by GApps. I did that method along with the standard wipes but now, when I turn on the phone, the LED at the top turns on to red and the phone apparently is not booting. Help please?

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In all honesty, I suspect this might be a case of bad English skill resulting in a total misunderstanding. Then again, this is only a guess.
[Defy Android Development] Kayant:
I do see your point there ;) but his grammar is quite good better than mine in some cases but I still feel that there is some problems with the statement he made.

Edit - I think I let my demons take over :( I just hate seeing bad comments against people's work. If I did go too far then N34S am sorry.

I read that you have to wait a bit sometimes and try remove the battery for a bit and re-try

Hmmm That's an interesting idea am going to try that out later :p
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
Yep, well... let me know if it's possible! Mostly I'm looking forward to this for learning purpose....

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[Defy Android Development] Kayant:
Some stuff I found -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ5RyvV_IMc

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=906161

http://www.modaco.com/topic/289928-...p-and-running-a-full-rom-with-the-market-etc/

Edit - This also :p

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Android_SDK_Emulator:_Compile_CyanogenMod_(Linux)

Going to test tomorrow on linux :D Good luck to you :)
[Defy Android Development] j814wong:
Don't let some good grammar fool you into thinking they're always a seasoned English speaker as native English speakers. I've seen plenty of non native English speakers on the web say "sorry for my bad English" when I see no apparent flaw in grammar or structure. But I give N34S the beenfit of the doubt seeing as he probably meant well. I also don't like others negatively commenting on other's work especially when they can do no better if at all. That said, Quarx, keep up the great work! You're awesome!

Thanks, i'll remove the battery and see how it goes.

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It's personally nicer to actually test it on the phone after backing up all my data. Then I can get a feel of performance optimizations. My past experience with emulators weren't always the best with it lagging more then my phone when it actually does decide to lag at all.
[Defy Android Development] Kayant:
True that but we want to test the unfinished kernel without destroying our phone :p
[Defy Android Development] j16sdiz:
You can't test the kernel in emulator. Most problem are driver problem, you don't use same driver in emulator

Sent from my MB526
[Defy Android Development] EdwardN:
Where's your sense of adventure? XD

I don't really understand the pressing need for a 3.0 kernel. I keep hearing the difference is minor, it's not a real "+1" revision, they just got tired of the 2.x numbers. I'm sure we'll get it eventually, just like as soon as this rom has most of the minor bugs worked out, Android 4.2 will be released, and poor Quarx will have to suffer though another round of "you've had the source for 3 days! Why doesn't everything work perfectly yet?!" comments.
[Defy Android Development] Kayant:
Don't know that :( oh well I will still try for fun :)

It's there ;) neither do I loool I just want to see Quarx's progress but I know I should not flash stuff to my phone when I don't know what am doing :cool: ..... Very true my friend :(
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
Well, for me it's more like "I want to learn about debugging custom android ROM" without the risk of (excuse my language) screw it my phone... so, sounds practical to me.

About the 3.x kernel, I know that maybe it doesn't make really sense for our old moto defy but it can bring some new stuff that aren't even though it on 2.x iteration... so, maybe, just maybe, it worth the long shot...

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[Defy Android Development] EdwardN:
GAH! <facepalm> 2.6 kernel IS THE SAME as 3.0 kernel.

from http://www.itworld.com/software/169503/new-linux-30-kernel-same-old-kernel

"So what are the big changes?

"NOTHING. Absolutely nothing. Sure, we have the usual two thirds driver changes, and a lot of random fixes, but the point is that 3.0 is just about renumbering, we are very much not doing a KDE-4 or a Gnome-3 here. No breakage, no special scary new features, nothing at all like that. We've been doing time-based releases for many years now, this is in no way about features. If you want an excuse for the renumbering, you really should look at the time-based one ('20 years') instead.

"So no ABI changes, no API changes, no magical new features - just steady plodding progress. In addition to the driver changes (and the bulk really is driver updates), we've had some nice VFS cleanups, various VM fixes, some nice initial ARM consolidation (yay!) and in general this is supposed to be a fairly normal release cycle. The merge window was a few days shorter than usual, but if that ends up meaning a smaller release and a nice stable 3.0 release, that is all good. There's absolutely no reason to aim for the traditional '.0' problems that so many projects have."
[Defy Android Development] YaPeL:
keep in mind that, linux kernel is not the same as linux kernel plus android patches, I think google introduced a couple of features on the patches for linux 3.0, like the ION memory allocator
[Defy Android Development] j814wong:
Is the new kernel built into the 10.18 or something? Or does one get it somewhere else because I only flashed 10.18, the update, and GApps
[Defy Android Development] EdwardN:
The custom 2.6 kernel that is finished, is in both the 10.18 and the update. There is no finished 3.0 kernel yet.
[Defy Android Development] krkdesigns:
Am on the latest build with the update. Minimal gapps. set the cpu to 800mhz. And the phone is blazing fast. So far the smoothest n fastest I've tried. But battery compared to 2ndint build is less. but who cares m happy with the new Build. Quarx is simply amazing. M sure there will b a complete ROM soon. Thanks again quarx
[Defy Android Development] Harishsudharsan:
Blazing fast

The 21st Oct update is blazing fast. Best ever. Quarx is the best.
[Defy Android Development] wskelly:
This isn't true. Definitely you will have problems with bootloops and other odd behavior (full /system partition) if you are coming from a Chinese gingerbread ROM. See post 9223.
[Defy Android Development] fideliofidelio:
Is there a chance that kernel 3.0 could optimize battery drain?

I'm in green defy 1018 without kernel fix of 1021 and I feel my batt is suffering.

Here's a screenshot I took today. All day in deep sleep and three moments checking stuff in the Web.
[Defy Android Development] killer_siller:
I'm setting up my wife's new 850/1900/2100 Defy to replace her AT&T HTC Aria.

I'm thoroughly impressed with this rom. I cannot believe JB is running this fast! It's faster than JB on my old Captivate. Nearly as fast as CNA on my Galaxy Nexus!

Only complaint is that I'm having difficulty connecting to an MSChap v2 wifi network. Will be investigating further in the morning. Thank you for the awesome rom. I hope it can be my wife's daily driver.
[Defy Android Development] EdwardN:
So install the 1021 kernel then. It does help a bit. So does lowering the voltages in bootmenu and saving them... You have to scroll down to the bottom to save it. (swipe to scroll)

I grabbed these from someone several pages back.

vsel = 300/17 600/32 800/42 1000/52
[Defy Android Development] seniga1:
Hi, i'll put this here, hope that it be usefull for somebody

it's about how its deepsleeping, when i checked it i didn't had any kind of new notification/sms/updates or anything, the phone was suposed to be sleeping all the time
[Defy Android Development] vic160890:
I have to say 30% with Wi-Fi on in 10 hours is very good.

Trust me, I know people with other phones that keep it in deep sleep with nothing on and in 17 to 22 hours te battery is almost out.

We should be proud about our handy for so little battery use.

I, for one, charge it every two evenings or less and I have a moderate use, I play games, watch videos on youtube, use torrents, and I call pretty often.
[Defy Android Development] FcukBloat:
Hi guys.. last night in about 8 hours battery dropped of 10-12% in airplane mode. When I went to settings I saw this, look at the attachment please.

It seems temple run wasted my battery, didn't it..

But it's strange.. I didn't use it of course, and now if I go in running apps, I can't see temple run neither in running apps nor in cached apps..

Someone have temple run installed and have this problem as well? Or it is not a problem of temple run? Wondering if I should uninstall it..

How much battery drain for you in about 8 hours of airplane mode?

Thanks guys
[Defy Android Development] MasterManson_Gunstorm:
extremly minnir issue , on last update 211012 the wheater on block show the temp like F° and not in C° like is usable on Brazil but... i dont find where i can config it
[Defy Android Development] trurl3:
Could some1 explain to me why every single task takes 100% CPU for quite long time? On new builds Defy flies, but only between something really important to do... in fact I have this problem from the first CM10 build which I installed. Some builds are better some worse, but generally the problem still persist - if I try to open some more demanding app CPU goes to 100% and stay there for some time. Even disconnecting from USB makes CPU using it's 100% power. What it could mean? How to rid off from that effect? On the way I had clean install from stock froyo but it not helped either. Now I suspect so every one who aved about 'flying like an eagle' in fact overlooked 'small issues' with processor overloading. Isn't it right? Is there someone who can say his Defy run smooth all the time and without accidentally frozing sometimes? Please respond, it's very interesting for me to see things as they really are. Sometimes when phone froze in most demanding moment I am tempted to smash it on the wall... and I have dirty dreams about Galaxy III :laugh:

One more thing: who can say what I should do when have such info on screen (look at attachment)? It's not connected with previous problem - it starts only with last build. It's occur when Multimount SD-card app is mounting SD card to browsing from PC trough USB
[Defy Android Development] Matzemink:
Yeah there seems to be a bug which drains more battery in deep sleep. BetterBatteryStats is telling me that the phone goes to deep sleep, but it consumes ~30-40mA in standby (without data). Usual values should be 4-5mA.

I did a clean install with 1810 build, battery consumption in standby was great (4-5mA). But then I played with some settings (USB debugging, zRam, KSM) and updated to 2110 and now the battery is draining faster. Went back to 1810 (without datawipe) and problem still persists! So I don't know what's exactly causing the higher battery drain.
[Defy Android Development] donP73:
Same situation here for me... :(
[Defy Android Development] TJKV:
You described the behavior of the CPU Governor, if you don't like it try another governor :) Look here for details.
[Defy Android Development] trurl3:
Thank you. It's really very interesting lecture. I will post if it helps.

Edit//

I think you are little misunderstood. Its not 100 % of CPU speed but 100% of CPU

LOAD

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[Defy Android Development] Persechini:
Just making a small update on the wifi toggling issue I was having, it was google account trying to sync calendar and failing for some reason, turning sync off and on for all items in the google account list seemed to solve this issue, and with it the battery drain during sleep went away. The ROM is still quite a battery consumer, but now it's WAY better and down to normal levels according to the reports in this thread. So, people having problems with deep sleep and battery not lasting from morning till night with light use, it's worth checking if one of the items set to sync in the accounts options has an error message, just in case

PS: still have my wifi bug where it can't transfer more than 3~4mb of data without dropping connection, and still have hope someone will come across a solution and for it somewhere I can find :)
[Defy Android Development] Sleepy!:
Anyone else getting horrible lag and reboots on the 21.10 update?

It didn't boot up on default governor (Interactive) and on Performance, when it did boot, it had lots of lag and auto rebooted in 5 mins after boot.

>

So I reverted back to 18.10.

>
[Defy Android Development] woodman:
Hi,

I don't understand why turning off then on sync mode solved the battery consuption issue... Because in my case, when i put my phone in airplane mode (during night), I also turn off accounts sync .. So it mustn't try to sync and drain battery ?! :eek:
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
You must use Interactive.

Some CPU enhancements can only run in Interactive governor. So if you switch to any other, it will lagg
[Defy Android Development] Persechini:
My issue initially was that wifi was toggling on and off every five minutes or so even when set to turn off while sleeping. Since turning the wifi off manually reduced consumption only a little, I guessed the culprit could be a running app or process. Almost accidentally I saw the error (red sync arrows) while messing around accounts, and it was trying again and again and failing (i.e. continuously active). Once I turned it off and on, it managed to sync correctly and I didn't have the battery problem any more

I don't think at all that this is the universal cause of poor battery, but it was for me, and it's easy to check, so why not?

PS: I think it might be related to the new google calendar app, It was the only new app I installed after coming back to CM10, but who knows? could be a one time thing. Anyway, it's been almost a day and the issue has not returned
[Defy Android Development] darty99:
La ROM es increíblemente buena en todos los sentidos.

The ROM is incredibly good in every way

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[Defy Android Development] FcukBloat:
I have auto-sync off, I manually sync things when I need, so I should be fine right?
[Defy Android Development] mrcurly:
It's definitely not the sync that'd the problem for battery drain, as I only sync manually

Sent from my Defy+ CM10 by quarx
[Defy Android Development] _ossie_:
I turned 3G off today (but still ran Wi-Fi) - it gave me about 30% longer battery life but still not great.

This is an issue - shouldn't 3G automatically disable itself when Wi-Fi is active and connected?

I am connected to WiFi pretty much all day.

Running 18/10 fix on a green lens MB525 with VSEL 300/17, 600/32, 800/42, 1000/52 Interactive governor.

I need to sync continuously - I rely on prompt receipt of e-mail from an Exchange account.
[Defy Android Development] mrcurly:
Do you play games with those clock values?

Sent from my Defy+ CM10 by quarx
[Defy Android Development] Sleepy!:
Thanks. I know, Quarx mentions in change log that Interactive should stay default for the battery tweaks to work.

>

I've tried flashing 21.10 four times now.

It's booted up only two times, once on default Quarx CPU settings and once on mine (Performance, 300/20 600/28 900/37 1200/45).

>

Both of these times the phone booted up fast, but the launcher and everything else were very very laggy.

>

After 5 mins of uptime, the phone would reboot, start everything over again and still be laggy.

This time also it would reboot after 5 mins.

This process just keeps going on and on.

>

I tried turning WiFi on and then off, and then sending the phone to deep sleep.

On pressing the deep sleep button, the phone rebooted one time, and other times there was no change to the lag on wake up.

>

I've gone to the extent of reflashing my SBF, and doing a clean flash. But it made no difference.

>

Any suggestions on what I should do? I'll probably wait for the next update, as this is my primary phone, and it needs to be working.

>

>

Another issue I have is that recent CWM backups on my phone have MD5 mismatch when I try to restore. The old backups work fine, with no MD5 mismatch.

So I had to use Titanium Backup to extract data from the nandroid.

Now I've migrated to TWRP, where i can choose not to verify MD5s.

Any suggestions about this problem?
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
TWRP is incompatible with CM10
[Defy Android Development] slimshady76:
As per Walter79's suggestion, I've been testing the RIL lib from MS2Ginger 4.0 since yesterday. I have to say I'm pretty impressed about the low battery drain I'm getting. In 19 hours the battery charge has dropped from 89 to 21 percent.

Leaving aside the different size and build/compile time of each version, I don't know what other differences are between the one Quarx is using and the one used in MS2Ginger.
[Defy Android Development] tombert.at:
No - its not hard - but it was very convinient and I always used this option from menu.
[Defy Android Development] disadjusted:
better battery RIL

@Quarx: is it possible to integrate this directly into your rom? or talk to walter what's the difference to implement this?

thanks for this suggestion and the test @walter & slimshady :highfive:
[Defy Android Development] javonera:
Your voltages values are too low. Try some higher values to see if that's causing the reboots.
[Defy Android Development] woodman:
Battery drain issue

About battery drain issue, do you know this little thread ?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1938833

I've just applied what theclaytons XDA member has done to fix abnormal battery drain (Disable both location reporting in System settings--> Google-->Maps and Latitude). :highfive:

I will post later for feedback. You could do the same...

If somenone else has already tested this workaround, it would be kind to tell us....

Wait and see. :fingers-crossed:
[Defy Android Development] FlashTec80:
Start with increasing the voltage numbers, and a good rule to follow is vsel/20+2 so if you vsel is set to 1200, then the calculation would be 1200/20+2=62

Myself is running:

Vsel 1: 300 @ 17

Vsel 2: 800 @ 42

Vsel 3: 1100 @ 57

Vsel 4: 1300 @ 67

Did a run on antutu with 3162 as final score and without mobile data my battery went from 100 to 86 after 12 hour. I know my settings is extreme but I don't really care about battery time as I can charge almost everywhere I go like at home, In the car and at work.

I'm not really satisfied with my numbers yet thou so in the weekend I will most likely buy a class 10 sd card to get the transfer rates up a bit.

Another thing I'm trying to find out is if there is any good way in cmx to increase the speed of IO database, anyone that know?
[Defy Android Development] ramdak:
The status bar clock does not update anymore. I think it's after last kernel update...

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[Defy Android Development] trekimann:
I have an mb525 defy, what is the most up to date rom I can use? I have looked at the 2nd-int one but it seems that its only for the 526. Any help would be appreciated :)
[Defy Android Development] ennarr:
Please please read previous posts, use search button it has been repeated one million times :(
[Defy Android Development] sa3e1:
It is for all Defy.
[Defy Android Development] Deonix:
Just wanted to share my battery life. When the screenshots were taken i still had 14 percent available. Interactive governor. Zram deactivated. All else on. 1000, 800, 600, 300. Somewhat. High voltages. Battery is 1. 5 years old
[Defy Android Development] slimshady76:
Yes it does. I have a Defy+ with Quarx's 18/11 ROM and 21/10 update, and the clock at the status bar DOES work.

Did you try to perform a cache/Dalvik wipe?
[Defy Android Development] ramdak:
I'll do it in a while. However it's not needed since it's a kernel update only. I'll post the result here.

Defy 525 red lens.
[Defy Android Development] labsin:
Had this a couple of days (maybe weeks) back when i'm watching movies on youtube. My clock didn't change until I got to the home screen.

Something else:

Is anybody experiencing lags after closing apps with a high memory demand (bad piggies -> 100MB).

I found when I close bad piggies, the app always stays in the cache and slows everything down (screen really hangs). I have to force close it and the lag is gone.

It is strange that it doesn't just closes it (it's in cache anyway) when I open a new app as the free ram is almost 0MB.

Prop. due to the ZRam?? Going to try without now.
[Defy Android Development] slph:
Boot loader version can affect at high battery consumption?

BL4

18.10 - battery ok

21.10 - battery crazy :(
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
no
[Defy Android Development] irekd:
I don't have it checked since beginning of my defy journey. Perhaps that's why I don't feel a battery draining so much. If there are more things like that, perhaps we could have a way better battery expirience.
[Defy Android Development] navinshark:
New Build 4.1.2 (18/10) Update 21/10

U can flash same rom in ur Defy as well, It's made for all defy and defy + phones.
[Defy Android Development] ashoks89:
My battery is only charging up to 84%. Battery monitor shows 0ma, which I guess means that charging has finished. However, it also shows that's it's only charged to 1358mAh as against 1650! Is it just me? Any ideas as to ho to fix it?
[Defy Android Development] MasterManson_Gunstorm:
the same think on the charge with power off phone?

try wipe battery stats, and see if it work, if not, try battery calibration (on google play) if it doesnt work too... i dont know xD
[Defy Android Development] Quiksilver20:
I've got a problem, cpu spy since last update has stopped working... It only shows deep sleep timer... What do you think I should do?

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[Defy Android Development] sUpErwHoO:
Ot-

I've just got about 8hours of battery life with quite a few more battery drops.

Little bit of gaming, 3g, total about 5 minutes of calls and whatsapp. My battery is about a year old.

Will buying a new battery solve these battery drop issues???

Also, if you could, can you tell me if the mugen battery is worth it?

If this is an issue with the battd or whichever the file is, can these drops be fixed?

As for the ROM, its madness how smooth the phones become!! As for as issues, its only the battery drain, and the return of the data issue.
[Defy Android Development] ashoks89:
Thanks! I'll give that a shot and see.
[Defy Android Development] corrinti:
The best thing is reading :D

It will not show in our current configuration
[Defy Android Development] Pekempy:
Really sorry for my ignorance here, but I've not updated my phone in a while (12-09 build!).

What is 2ndboot, do we have custom kernels now? What's the process for updating to the latest (21-10) build?

Again apologies, but I haven't been keeping up to date with the goings on :(

Thanks.

Edit: Darn, my 200th post is me being dumb :P
[Defy Android Development] slimshady76:
Go to the F.A.Q. thread. It's listed in the OP.
[Defy Android Development] FlashTec80:
Then get yourself up to date all questions you ask have been answered like a hundred times in the last days ;)