yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leaderbuilder:
Sorry I meant you adjustment to the batter percentage numbers other were talking about.

I'll run the debloater too and let you know how that works
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Sorry.

I'm so obsessed with this 4G issue didn't have a time to boot to windows to make it.

I'll do it today.

May be it will be a good thing to take some time off of kernel to get a perspective.

I'm trying one more thing and than will boot to windows and make the 1.1 happen.

Promise.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leaderbuilder:
Dude no worries.

Whenever is way OK.

Do what ever you need to do for you. And your sanity. ;)

I'm just looking forward to anything that comes our way.

Thanks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
Not to make you feel rushed (I apologize if it seems like it) but are you looking into this 4G issue? :o
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rsngfrce:
:p

What I don't understand is this... this 4G issue seems to have first been brought up on October 10 after the release of 6.0. To me, this implies that it was not an issue in prior source versions, though my testing doesn't support that (unless some other variable came into the equation). Can anyone who is having an issue with 4G on 6.0+ confirm that they WERE NOT having an issue on 5.4 or earlier?

As I have said, I don't use 4G much myself. I was surprised to discover yesterday that Speed Test has saved my results since I got my phone and on 4/19/12 I had a 4G download speed of 9.0Mbps... this was stock, unrooted, bright shiny new, first smartphone! Somewhat to my surprise, unless some results got lost, I've not tested my 4G connection since then until this issue arose. It SEEMED fast, but I can't confirm that this issue hasn't always existed in the Agat source (for whatever reason) since I started using the Agat source kernel.

Personally I'd like to see the current version completely working with logcat fix, tweaks, recovery (which I think I understand it isn't currently?). That's not moving backwards (unless the 4G issue IS new) and move on to a possible 4G fix from there. :)

(Oh, and as Agat has requested, has anyone been able to test 4G on STOCK FI27 kernel? I Don't think I have seen it?)

(EDIT, IN RESPONSE TO AGAT'S POST WHICH FOLLOWS): In my second round of testing I was going back through the source releases hoping to find where this issue started, but never got one with better results and gave up. Also, I did not test any stock kernels, other than the ONE mentioned above).
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
I'm not using 4G.

Have very bad 4G reception at work and at home and I'm mostly on wifi.

So I don't know how and when it started or if it always was present in all source build kernels.

A lot of things can be set/changed/added in defconfig.

We don't have stock defconfig file and we don't know what settings srpint uses for it's settings in stock kernel

My defconfig is based on u1_na_spr which is default source defconfig.

I didn't disable anything in it. Just adding stuff like governors, shedulers, versions etc.

If Sprint using same defconfig file and same source as they release it 4G speed should be in pair with stock kernel.

Unless they change something in source when they compile their kernel it should be very close.

If someone with good 4G reception can go back and try few source build kernels along with stock kernels we might have an idea

when it started if it wasn't present from day one.

Till then all we can to is blind experiments and look thru source for some answers.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] metayoshi:
I'm using Stock FI27, and for me, it has been dependent on the time of day. It's good in the middle of the night and in the morning, but sucks during the day.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rsngfrce:
Sorry if I have missed this, and that was still somewhat of an answer anyways, but have you tried the 6.1 kernel after using the stock kernel and confirmed a speed drop? If not, still helpful, but inconclusive I think.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Somewhat conclusive would be if someone will try few kernels withing few min.

That way we will know that it's same phone, same modem, same location, same time.

Only variable is kernel.

3-4 speed tests on each will give us something to work with.

Anything else leaves too many questions.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ManofJELLO:
All ICS kernels have had slow 4G speeds until FI03 came out. 6.0 was the first source built kernel since Sprint fixed their own 4G speed issues, so that's why I brought it up for 6.0.

Below is a run with the FH13 repack and then immediately followed with the FI03 repack. You can see like 5x speed difference just from switching form FH13 to FI03 kernel

Again, this was done with FI27 modem and FI03 stock rooted rom.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
We had FH13 source and now FI27 source dropped.

If sprint didn't change anything in the source before releasing it source build custom kernel should run at similar speed as stock FI27 kernel.

Can you run FI03 repack and than FI27 stock.

If you want I can make a FI27 repack so you keep recovery if you don't have mobile odin to flash tar file.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ManofJELLO:
yeah I'll go run fI27 stock since I just ran FI03 repack
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ManofJELLO:
FI27 Stock Kernel

Already did FH13 and FI03 in the last post

FI27 modem and FI03 rooted stock Rom
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Thanks a lot.

Can you do 6.0 and 6.2 as well. Just to compare to FI27 stock.

Edit: I looks like FI27 same if not better than FI03.

You have up to 5 Mbs on FI27.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ManofJELLO:
Here are 6.0 followed by 6.2

sadly, I am no help anymore today as I'm out for the night, haha
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
You helped enough.

It's abvious that source build is much slower than stock.

Now, since I've fixed the logcat issue I'll start digging around for 4G fix.

Thanks every one for help, tests and feedback.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] caaznkid:
Dude your 4g speeds are monstrous.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Samsung f**ed up FI27 kernel and modem :banghead:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 5FOOTER:
And why do you say this?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lord dredd:
have to agree

in my view FI03 modem and kernel ( even stock one from Agat ) are the best

great signal strength , good 3G speed

snappier
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lilotimz:
I actually believe this slow 4g has been an ongoing problem for a while back. I ran exclusively on Agat kernels until i started noticing that my download speeds with my phone were absolutely horrible when i was updating / downloading apps after switching roms.

This was back in august when i first noticed it but it possibly has been there longer as I dont usually download stuff on my phone that'll make me notice it's slower. I mean i'll just download and go do something else so I never looked into it. So I have to assume its been there for a while. The repacked kernels fixed the problems though. That's for sure.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Because if you test other stock kernels and modem and compare to FI27 they fix a lot of thing but it cost us data speeds fix something broke other. they together terrible and even separately but not that much but still noticeable.

AGAT has nothing to do with this since he just add CWM and some tweaks init etc to fix it and make it better... Samsung is the culprit.

I'm looking forward for AGAT finds what it's borking data speed in FI27 kernel.

In EL29/FFXX to FI03 modem kernel combo my data is about 1.25 to 2.15Mbps but in FI27 no matter what combo if I have the kernel or modem I do not get past 0.75Mbps
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sjsharksfan420:
I have got the fastest test speeds with FI27 kernel/modem so far.. I had tested with exact same settings/specs and location too..

On another note, I flashed v6.2 kernel and got an error backing up boot image when trying to run nandroid backup.. reflashed v6.0 and it worked again..

sj

Sent from my E4GT on Tersus Status v.01 FI27 using Tap@Talk Pro 2.4
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Try new 0.6.2.

Been uploaded after backup and restore test.

Did you use 6.2 from OP?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] moparfreak426:
i dont think im ever going to run anything else except agat kernels
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Me too :beer::D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rsngfrce:
I did a Nandroid backup after upgrading to new 6.2 without problem.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 5FOOTER:
I guess it's different for everyone 6.2 and FI27 modem work good for me average of 7.0 download. On re calk rom
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
I should try 0.6.2. Thanks by the way I don't have 4G access here in PR I was talking about 3G
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rwilco12:
Thanks to the amazing dedication and hard work by our good friend Agat we now have another kernel available on the Kernel Repo! Version 0.6.2 is now available in One-Click.exe, TAR and ZIP.

http://rwilco12.androidfilehost.com/?dir=Kernels/Recovery Kernels/ICS/Agats Source Built Recovery

Enjoy!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sloth:
Thanks for taking your valuable time keeping your repo's updated :highfive:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Hey agat I noticed that second core support was not added to 6.0 and was wondering if u planned on putting that on future builds? On rjules 1.8 for now because that really is a great feature to run the 2 cores together. Thanks.

I'm sorry if it has been added to 6.2 but can anyone confirm? Thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lord dredd:
just read the release notes and it says that emmc bug has been removed by samsung in FI27 kernel

thats the best news i must say :)

i am on clean blue Rom with FI25 modem and Fi03 kernel

flashing the 0.6.2 now

yay!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Wasn't that removed by agat a long time ago? It is good Samsung finally did it though. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
It wasn't removed by Sammy. Here is my reference for saying that:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32634289

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] milky1112:
Agat, Small issue.. I'm unable to make a backup. This is the error i'm getting (See screenshot) Worked good on the Previous kernels.. but this guy don't wanna play nice.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
No Conservative, are there any others missing, sorry if it has been brought up already?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rsngfrce:
Did you use the first version of 6.2 or the new version of 6.2 (linked in the op)? Another user also reported a problem some posts up, may be an issue with the first test version of 6.2? Nandroid worked fine for me on 6.2 from OP.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] milky1112:
Think it may have been first version. I'll download latest and greatest in a moment.. giver a shot (i honestly do think it's the first version tho) Thanks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sjsharksfan420:
I was going to post too, I had that error too before, looks like Agat fixed.. I am about to test as well.. (since I had that error too on first test version, I will post once I confirm that it is corrected on my side)

Update: nandroid worked perfectly..

Thanks for the fix Agat!

sj

Sent from my Pimped Out E4GT on Clean Blue Tersus Status v.01 FI27 using Tap@Talk Pro 2.4
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
I'm on 6.2 right now and I checked in system tuner.

Second core is working when needed and off when there is no need for it.

We don't need second core to bu on all the time.

When it's hotplugging it saved battery.

P.S. Yeah! Post number 3000
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Yeah well I just like the option to run them together like rjules has in extweaks. I don't care about battery life though. I have six and 2 wall chargers lol. If u try his kernel there r a bunch of second core options in extweaks. It's ok though. Not a big deal who's kernel I use lol. Just that urs was more updated that's all.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
Does 0.6.2 have the features that were in 0.6.0?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
All features from 6.0 are present in 6.2.

6.2 is merely a logcat issue fix that was present in last few kernels.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] robert93436:
which kernal should i choose i'm on the FI22 update as of yesterday
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
FI22????
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
FI22 is the boost ROM that sextape just released a tar for.

I just flashed 0.6.2 and it does what I need. Thanks agat.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] robert93436:
its a boost mobile thing

baseband version

S:D710.10 S.FI22

Kernel Version 3.0.15-981989

se.infra@SEP-135#3

build number

imm761,fi22
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Like I said man no biggy but this is how I like things.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
It shouldn't be hard to add those options to ExTweaks script.

I'll look into it if I have time.

My main concern is OTG now.

I have about a week left on this phone and would like to make it happen before I move to SGS3.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Damn man. It will suck to lose u as a dev if that's really happening. U have done some great things for this community. I have an upgrade in January but I'm loving this device and the development that's still ongoing with it. Guess if I was gonna move on it would have to be the Note 2 though. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
This device will stay in the family.

I'm passing it down to my wife (after all I'm using her upgrade to get GS3).

I will be able to do some stuff for it but not that much.

I'll have to dedicate more time to my new device.

But for all of you to know. I'll still be around for help and

and all my current threads and development will have my full support.

There will be less new development, that's it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cd7:
Don't know if this helps but I happen to be in 4g area. Bottom 3 tests are with Stock rooted FI27 rom, modem and kernel. The 3 above them are with everything same but agat 6.2 kernel. Ignore the top most test result....Also, for what its worth, my GPS works much better with stock kernel: ff18, fh13 and fi27....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Wow. That's crazy.

It's like 3-5% of the speed of stock.

Definitely something wrong with the source build kernel.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rsngfrce:
I think it would be be helpful if Agat would distinctly name his 'beta' releases in the future... :thumbup:

For the record, if you aren't sure which version you have: both the 'beta' (which is still accessible from at least one link in this thread) and the 'final release' version are named AGAT_v0.6.2 zip or tar.

The 'beta' version of AGAT_v0.6.2 is 6.38 MB and has a checksum of 118ac167dc60f1cb8e26e79cda5b70e6

The 'final release' version of AGAT_v0.6.2 is 7.14 MB and has a checksum of f369292cbb737b436e69584428ae73d8

If you have the 'beta' version, best to delete it or rename it so you don't confuse yourself later! :confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] optimummind:
I just tried the FI27 Tersus rom with the agat v0.62 kernel and EL29 modem. Whereas with the Gingerbread Calkulin v3.0 rom (EL29) and the ICS Blu Kuban (EL29), my 4G download and upload remained the same - approximately 9 Mbps down & 1.4 Mbps up, I was only getting 1 Mbps with the Tersus & agat v0.62 kernel. My upload, however, remained the same. Should I have updated the modem to something newer or does it not matter?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sjsharksfan420:
You should definately try the FI27 modem.. I have very good test results with it.. :)

sj

Sent from my Pimped Out E4GT on Clean Blue Tersus Status v.01 FI27 using Tap@Talk Pro 2.4
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rsngfrce:
Probable workaround for app2sd issues!

For anyone who is having the issues mentioned in this thread of not being able to move apps to the ExtSD card, the just released 0.3.1 pro version of Android Tuner has added a force link2sd option, and IT ACTUALLY WORKS on the Epic 4G Touch! MAJOR good news, IMO, since the Link2SD app never would work on this phone. I don't see why this wouldn't work if app2sd isn't (besides other benefits). XDA thread:

[APP 2.2+] Android Tuner [BETA TESTING]. Not cheap, but COMPLETELY worth it! :good:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Best results for me are with FH13 and FI03 modems.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
Is anyone running _dan's FI27 and 0.6.2 not getting a charging LED light?

Edit... Rebooted and it's working.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sloth:
My SIG is my setup... I have never had any problems with agats kernels but since I have installed v0.6.0 tar via mobile odin my battery has been horrible I work nights so I sleep during the day duh :p when I went to bed yesterday battery was at 99% when I woke up it was at 45% sitting on my desk. I checked GSAM battery monitor clicked app sucker it said the kernel used 69.4% I'm pretty sure that is way way way to high my other phone never gets above 3%. I don't know if my phone is not going into deep sleep or I have eztweaks set up wrong? I turned the phone off so it wouldn't die while I was at work before I realized I should have did more investigating so that is the only info I have right now.I'm in the process of charging it again to see what happens but this time I will take some screenies to post.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rsngfrce:
Have you tried BetterBatteryStats? It should help determine what is keeping your phone from sleeping.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sloth:
Yeah I have it but not really sure what I'm looking for but like I said I have never had any problems with agat's kernels sleeping and the only changes are the kernel itself. I have been using them since he started cooking them :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
Have you tried 0.6.2 yet? I'm pretty sure 0.6.0 was an interim build and wasn't entirely completed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] milky1112:
Glad ya got it working, running that combo with no issues.

Sent from my braille Epic Touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
Hey Agat. Don't want to derail you or anything but Rujelus just came out to say that the source for FI27 is identical to the previous source kernel (FH13?) so he will not be updating his.

Also, bumping the Conservative governor thing. Is it difficult to re-add that back into the kernel? The rom I support has its tweaks based on your kernel and the conservative governor. ;)

Not a priority... just asking.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sloth:
I have it loaded on my ext sd card I'm recharging now to see what happens and try to collect some more info

Screenie #1 is at 99%

# 2 showing kernel usage at 29.2 %

I'll post more when I wake up :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tenaciousj:
nevermind.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
I'm pretty sure kernel usage will be based directly on what you are doing with the phone. For instance, if the phone sits idle for a long time, the kernel usage will tend to be high because that should be the only thing that is running. If you are using the phone, the kernel usage will drop as the apps start consuming more of the battery percentage wise.

Edit: As you can see, I spend way too much time using the XDA app. LOL
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sloth:
My Evo sits idle most of the time and it never goes above 3-4% I'm kinda baffled to what's going on :confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
Well, different phone, certainly some major differences in kernel and also don't forget to thank Samsung & Sprint for still not providing us with a completely functioning build of ICS yet. :eek:

I guess the bottom line would be if you find the correct balance of battery life/phone usage with your setup. Users are reporting up to 24-30 hrs use on a single charge with ICS now. I've never owned the EVO so I can't say if the usage is comparable. Short version, if you get what you need out of your E4GT then I don't think its really an issue. ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ManofJELLO:
is the lulzactive governor included in 6.2 now?

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is the lulzactive governor included in 6.2 now? didnt see it listed in no frills cpu control
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MiguelHogue:
No its not.. What you see in your cpu settings is what is being used

-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
You would think based on previous work that they'd lump FF18, FH13 and FI27 all in one download if that was the case - yet the first two are together and FI27 isn't. Wonder how Ruj came to that unless he did by a file-by-file comparison of all source.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] elliwigy:
i too feel something off.. here is mine after full charge.. not a lot of use n left off charger all night.. shows almost all in deep sleep and is now below 35%.. running agat tfi27 with his kernel and set to pegq with max and min set to 800mhz and 25mhz.. kernel version is 0.6.1 or whichever.. not running .6.2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
No idea how the kernel source comes. Someone asked Ruj in his kernel thread if he would be updating to FI27 and that was the outcome. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] elliwigy:
also if helps any.. running with no touch tones. no vibrations. no sounds. hardware lihts always off. screen brightness set to lowest setting.. practically clean install. no fb apps or anything else installed. mainly those 40mins is checking the time throughout the night and sligt xda app and maybe a text or two.. also its at least three or four cycles in.. dont have bettbattstats but will install after my next full charge. also note i calibrated the other day after a fresh install/full cycle after a complete drain then full charge

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ok after thinking a bit more.. i also flashed pimp my rom with almost all the tweaks.. as well as pegq from phakeer placebo lol.. anyone else with batt issues do any of those things? if so could be pimp my rom and/or placebo making the kernel run constantly? im going to try a fresh install with no tweaks after a full charge n see what happens.. and does anyone know if using setcpu overrides exttweaks? or should i just use ex tweaks and not setcpu?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
I guess with all the experiments and testing to fix logcat issue I might of left something out of kernel.

I'll try to add everthing that's missing like governors and such tonight and will upload new kernel.

As for comparing sources it's not that hard and if Ruj says those are identical I don't have any reason not to believe him.

All it takes may be 30 min to run a diff on 2 sources on your hard drive.

If there are no differences you will see it.

If some diff is present than it will take much more time to say what exactly has been added/changed/edited because you would have to study all those.

But if diff doesn't show any differences than you will be done.

I didn't run diff on 2 sources so I don't know if Sammy added something.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Capp5050:
Apparently EX Tweaks loads @ boot, makes its settings, then steps aside. SetCPU (or other related apps) will override EX Tweaks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] elliwigy:
thanks! ill hold off on fresh install until new kernel. i think aall my tweaks could b causing some drain as well lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Any app like setcpu, tegrak, nofrills, voltage control will overwrite the ExTweaks settings. Look at ExTweaks like easy way of init.d script with a UI.

It sets all on boot and what ever you do after full boot is up to you.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Source is just a ton of text files full of programming code. You can open them in notepad but Notepad++ works better for this.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ManofJELLO:
haha yeah trying to be nice while whining for lulzactive inclusion. Agat is awesome and responsive so i feel bad asking for stuff haha
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sloth:
Ok I just woke up here are some screenies from my phone sitting idle on my desk I hope these help figure out what's happening :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
One more screen of about phone please? I'd like to see it.

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
You have 200 MHz and deep sleep almost same.

If your phone was just sitting on your dest you should not have over 3 hrs of 200 MHz.

Something preventing your phone from sleep.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sloth:
That's what I don't understand before v6.0 it would sleep like a baby :confused: I just mobile odin'ed back to v5.4 here is a screen of about phone only change is kernel