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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SantinoInc:
So I finally left my beloved MIUI to try this rom out because it was just getting too buggy and I have to say that for a Sense rom (I despise sesne) its really nice! I just have two questions:

1. Is there a mod to disabled all camera sounds in the stock Sense camera?

2. I know the rom is greatly trimmed down already but I was wondering if there were a list of system apps that can be removed w/o jeporadizing the stability of the rom?

Great work on this rom bro!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] closeone:
Thanks Chris. I just happen to be at the right place at the right time. I obviously wasn't when you made your comment. ;)

By the way, I just visited your photography site. You do some fantastic work. I know that the photos that come out of this phone aren't even close to what comes out of a high-end DSLR (I use a consumer-grade DSLR), but they are pretty good for a phone. It's nice to have it always on you.

Thank you SantinoInc. ;)

1. Absolutely. Just go into the Camera -> Tap the gear -> Camera interface -> Toggle Shutter sound to off

2. Taking a quick look at it, you can safely remove:

- Any of the apps I put onto there as extras by default.

-- Battery Bar Settings

-- ES File Explorer

-- No-frills CPU Control

-- Titanium Backup

-- WiFi Tether

-- Terminal Emulator

You can also remove

- Any of the Sense Widgets

- Calculator

- Clock

- Clock Widget

- Flashlight App (The one in the Quick Settings will still work)

- Google Search

- HTC Beats Notify (That'll take the Notification off when you're playing music with headphones)

- The Internet Browser should be safe to remove (but install your browser of choice before removing it)

- HTC Setup

- Sprint Hotspot

- Task Manager

- Voice Search

- Voice Dialer

- Voice Recorder

- Anything related to weather (but this will break the ability for any Sense widgets to retrieve weather - it won't affect third-party widgets and apps)

There are certainly more, but those are some that I can think of that would be safe to remove. Remember that not all of these are actually running. If you check with a third-party task-manager (not the built-in one; SystemPanel Lite is one I like) you can see more deeply what's really using resources. (In SystemPanel Lite, make sure to turn on "System processes" in the Settings)

Also, if you like the MIUI home screen, there is a version of it put out by the MIUI people themselves, for other phones (MiHome Launcher in the App Store). It's not the highest rated, and as such, there are other ones that seem to be a bit more popular than that one (which would give you a more MIUI-like experience). QQLauncher, and Espier Launcher seem to be pretty popular. If you want a more MIUI-like lockscreen, it looks like MagicLocker would have you covered. exDialer looks like it takes on the MIUI dialer feel. If you're looking for the MIUI Music App, I believe there's a version floating around on xda that's compatible.

Hope this helps you a bit,

~co~
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SantinoInc:
Wow, that was a super detailed and great answer to my questions. Thanks so much for your time!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chrisliphart:
Ha, thanks man. I get by. Always room for improvement, and I work towards that with every shoot I have. I'm nowhere near where I want to be with my photography, but it's an income, and a fun one at that.

As to the phone, the camera in this phone is pretty awesome for what it is. It's definitely a fine substitution for a quick shot, as long as the light is decent. With an f2.0 lens, it's not too bad in lower light either. It's no Lumia 920 in that department, but it's definitely in the top tier of cell phone cameras out there. That was actually a big factor in my choice of the EVO LTE over the Galaxy S3; this lens is wider (f2.0 vs f2.6), plus the continuous autofocus. The icing on the cake is the camera button. :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SantinoInc:
CloseOne:

I hate to beat an old horse, as you more than adequately answered my question the first time, but I was wondering if you had any plans to release a MOD or version of this that is stripped down as bare as possible w/o having the major functions breaking. Yesterday, before reading your reply to my last post I went on a system app deletion hunt. I may have taken it too far because I deleted stock messaging and replaced it with Handcent and expected it to be working 100% which it wouldn't.

Regardless, thanks a lot for this rom...you really make using Stock bareable!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ssojyeti2:
How much more could you strip down this rom? It's already under 350 mb as opposed to most roms which are more than 620 mb.

If you get me a list with the names of the apps you want to remove (the actual app names, from /system/app/, I may able to throw something up for you.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SantinoInc:
Yeah, I hear you. I know I'm whinning here and that this is a much leaner rom then any other Sense rom. I guess that my problem is that I'm comparing to AOSP roms and it really isn't a fair comparison. Sense is sense and there is no way around it. Hope I didn't come off as sounding ungrateful.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ssojyeti2:
Nah its fine:). Like I said if you get me a list of the apps you want to remove I may be able to make a flashable zip for you...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] closeone:
Personally, I'm also impressed with the burst mode on here. I've taken a dozen pictures in a second, and was lucky enough to get the shot I was looking to get. It's excellent in a pinch. I'm not familiar with the Lumia series of phones. I take it that they have a pretty decent shooter built in.

Well.. my plan with this ROM was to take it down to as little as possible without ruining the basic functionality that you'd expect out of a phone. I will say that many of the installed APKs are not running. They are there for functions related to keeping certain functionality working.

Yes. You definitely want to be careful with some apps, like the stock messaging app, Phone apks, and some others. Some need to be left in there because they are needed for your phone to function properly.

I will say that you can "desensify" the ROM a bit by removing Rosie (the HTC Launcher) and all HTC Widgets. That should take it down in size. Make sure you have your own launcher installed before removing it though. You can also get back the stock ICS lockscreen by removing the HtcLockScreen.apk.

There is also a tool called ROM Cleaner that might help. I haven't used it and can't provide any support for it, but you might find it handy.

~co~
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SantinoInc:
Another noob question for you guys: is there a way to take screen shots without a 3rd party applications?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rodohmes:
Yeah, for sure. Hold the power button then press the home button.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chrisliphart:
The burst mode is pretty awesome, and far better than on the S3. On that phone, you have to hit the shutter button on screen over and over to do "burst mode", but here, like on my Canon, I can just hold down the shutter hardware button and fire away.

The Lumia 920 has some pretty insane low-light shooting going on, but other than that, it's pretty much just a cell phone camera like any other. Not that I've actually handled a Lumia, but from the comparison shots on the Verge and Engadget I've seen, it's pretty crazy.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JerryGNYC:
You can also hold power and volume-down. FWIW, this combination is touchy as far as timing goes, but it's easy to get the hang of...

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I've started experimenting with the camera too. I thought I read somewhere about HDR mode, but I can't seem to find it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KHoff:
Click on the A that's beside the settings menu and HDR mode will be the second choice :thumbup:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] closeone:
I like the burst mode here.. I'm not too thrilled with the fake clicking sound-effect that makes it sound like you're taking ten photos a second. Luckily that can be turned off.

Maybe I didn't get a close enough look, but I thought you were shooting with a Nikon. ;) Not that it matters much. I shoot with a Sony A330.. Which I believe is highly underrated. Also, it has two more advantages for me. It accepts old Minolta Maxxim Lenses, and it has two memory card slots... because nobody would buy the camera if it only had MemoryStick. They put a switch on there so I can put in my expensive MemoryStick card and leave it in there, and use my SD Card for actual shooting. When I need the extra space, or I've just forgotten my card (I have done that).. I just switch to the MemoryStick.

Jerry, are you using some third-party screenshot app? I swear that this doesn't work for me, and is the first time I've ever hear that button combo mentioned. :confused:

Thanks. Yeah, that was one that took me a little while to find when I first played with the Camera app. ;)

~co~
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JerryGNYC:
Thanks. The one place I didn't look (or even notice...). :o

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Nope, no extra app for that combo. But you have to press them together, and hold them both for a second or so. And you'll even get a notification so you can review the capture. And at no extra charge, :p the captures go into their own folder...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] closeone:
Well.. I'll be d*mned... I swear I've never heard that one before, and after trying it a few times, it worked perfectly. It's surprising to me because it acts completely different than the one that you can do with a Power-Home combo.

Thanks,

~co~
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] acidsurfr:
Some Tweaking needed

From someone fairly new to the rooting community and rom usage. I've skimmed the comments on here and haven't found any of these so far so i thought i would add it for others to know about and the dev to be aware of...it could be as simple as something i am overlooking though too.

Been playing with this rom for a few days now. Very nice, lite and fast. I am having problems with a few things that i would like to point out. Most things are minor and trivial but the gmail app is not notifying me of new mail. I need and use my email for work and personal all day long and although i can check it manually. It would be great if it checked, retrieved new mail and notified me as it should. All setting within the gmail app are set. I also have a problem on occasion when downloading something from the Play store where it can not verify who i am and will not download the app??? Is there something i can do to correct these issues myself or can we get an update. May have to try another rom or go back to a stock rooted rom for the time being as i really need the email issue and play store issued resolved. Less needed but nice features, my contact photos are not being brought in from facebook contacts to my contacts, but not a deal breaker by any means.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JerryGNYC:
You are, as always, Most Welcome!

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i've not had any issues with any Google apps on this ROM (wish I could say the same for GMail on my TF101 w/Revolver). You may want to try deleting your account and re-adding it...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] closeone:
Hi acidsurfr. These aren't issues that I've seen before. That's not saying that there isn't a problem though. What HBOOT version do you have? Are you S-ON or S-OFF? It's possible that you may need to upgrade your firmware, or that you have something that's left over from a previous ROM install. Did you do a wipe (System, Factory Reset) before flashing the ROM?

If you are HTC Dev Unlocked with an HBOOT version higher than 1.12, then you may have to flash the kernel for this ROM manually. You can do that using the app, Flash Image GUI. You can find more information on that software here.

If you're using Titanium Backup to restore settings, I'd recommend that you don't in this case.

As for Facebook contact images, it turns out that this is something that is more-or-less common.

If you open up an ADB shell or use the Terminal Emulator, type in the following command:

chmod 664 /data/data/com.android.providers.contacts/files/*

(thanks il Duce)

Then reboot your phone.

Your images should show up.

~co~

Edit: BTW Jerry, I responded to your comments over at tMM finally. :o
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] acidsurfr:
hboot screen shows

"Tampered"

Unlocked ------ take it that means S-on in my case

hboot 1.12.0000

radio 1.02.12.0427

and yes i used titanium backup to restore all of my settings and data as i have way to much to try and recreate manually. Only restored user apps and data though not system data. I also did the superwipe and factory reset prior to installing the rom. Not sure deleting the gmail account and adding it back in will help as i have 4 of them on the device and none of them are automatically retrieving or notifying of new mails. May try and rewipe and reinstall tonight when i get home from work and try to manually restore only certain apps and data through titanium instead of a full restore.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] acidsurfr:
Tried the chmod command and got this
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] closeone:
Well, you're on the 'good' bootloader version. Most of the things you can do with S-OFF, you can do with the HTC Dev Unlock on HBOOT 1.12. I do see that you have an extremely old Radio version however. There's a chance that your firmware version might have something to do with it. Check out this thread for more information (you'd have to use a Bootloader zip).

I can't say that this is the issue, but there's certainly a chance. You may find that you'll have the same issues with other new Sense ROMs.

I'm sorry. I forgot to mention that you should type "su" first -> press enter -> press Allow on the SuperUser Dialog (if it comes up) -> then type that command.

~co~
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] acidsurfr:
Thanks for the quick responces. I'll look into the radios tonight when I get home. I'll also try the Su- in the terminal to see if it helps. I did delete ALL google accounts and re-set them up one by one. Sent a test message from my yahoo mail and still have not received any notifications after waiting 15 minutes.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] acidsurfr:
Tried the su- first and chose allow on the popup. I then got this

"bad mode"
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] closeone:
What ROM + version were you on prior to this one?

Don't forget to put in the number. chmod 664. ;)

Remember, this will only fix the Facebook pictures.

~co~
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rodohmes:
I see that you're being helped, but just as an encouragement - I'm the same as you: S-on with the old bootloader. I updated my radios a while back (simple as flashing in recovery) and haven't had any of the issues you mentioned. I get a notification of new Gmail on my phone before it notifies me on my laptop often times. (You might also try clearing the settings from the Gmail app itself-cache & data). I have 90+ apps installed and haven't had any issue with the play store (I don't restore anything with TB, though). And my Facebook contact pics show up great in the People app and in Messages too.

Hope you get everything resolved. Lots of helpful people around these parts. :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] acidsurfr:
Thanks for the tip. Going to try the radios tonight when I get home from work. May even reflash the Rom and start from scratch

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Closeone

I was running the unlocked rooted stock rom on 1.22 from the dev's not the ota

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Closeone,

I was running the unlocked rooted stock rom on 1.22 non ota release if that is what you mean?

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sorry have to correct myself, i believe the version was 2.13 ( not 1.22) it was the latest release for the stock rom, and no i did not do the ota. I got the update from on here
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] acidsurfr:
Here are the sc's for my software pages as of now

Just need to figure out which files I need to install to update the proper settings and not jack it up or brick it
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] acidsurfr:
looks like i need to update the radio, pri, prl and possibly the baseband....correct me if i am wrong?

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I've updated my sig to include the important info you dev's ask for that i keep forgetting to include to try and help answer questions more quickly.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] closeone:
I completely wasn't thinking there. You'll only be able to flash the updates through Recovery. Baseband pretty much = radio (AFAIK). You won't be able to update your PRI without going S-OFF. You can update your PRL by going into Software updates in Settings, on your phone and selecting "PRL Update." You won't see that on this ROM until you go into "Update Me" and download the "HTC Spyware Restoration" from inside the MODs folder. Long story about that. It turns out that it's benign, can be kept on the phone.

I'm not completely sure these are related either. I know that it isn't the ROM. A number of people are using it without problems. I could understand this if you were running the older version. But the newer version... I don't completely know.

All sync settings are set to on? Settings -> Accounts and Sync -> Sync Settings? Auto-sync on.

Also Settings -> More under Wireless & networks -> Usage -> Settings -> Restrict background data is not checked?

I'm sorry,

~co~
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] acidsurfr:
Got it all fixed and working. Still need to update radio and prl, but its all working after a wipe and reflash.

Think the titanium restore jacked it last time. Only used it to restore one app and data this time.:)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] closeone:
Wonderful! I'm glad you were able to get it working. :)

~co~
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] acidsurfr:
With everything working, should I still be concerned with updating the baseband and other items? By flashing from recovery, I'm assuming that you mean with twrp. I'm familiar with flashing in twrp, just need to be certain I am flashing the right files.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chrisliphart:
No need to defend your use of a Sony with me! My first DSLR was a Sony, and I loved it. The Minolta mount on 'em are like a secret code. Cheap, great glass, and TONS of choices. I switched to Canon for overall compatibility with lenses and lighting gear. Sony uses a propietary hot shoe mount that you can't use generic flashes and triggers with. When it came down to Nikon vs. Canon, I made my choice simply on what felt right to me. I really like the scrollwheel on the back of Canon's pro/prosumer DSLRs versus the up/down/left/right buttons. Canon, Nikon, or Sony, they're all excellent cameras, and lightyears beyond even the best cameras 10 years ago. :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] closeone:
Well, that's up to you. While I would recommend it, if everything is working properly right now, you may be okay not doing it. Yes, I'm talking about flashing with TWRP. You'll use this one. Know that you can't downgrade after doing this. I would also recommend checking that the MD5 Sum matches the one on that page. You don't want a corrupted download. This is one utility that you can use to check.

Yup. And, because they are 99% backwards compatible (there are some exceptions.. but yeah), picking up some old lenses can not only be less expensive, but also better made. Some of the lenses made now (especially kit lenses for proamateur/prosumer cameras) feel terrible. That plastic housing will surely protect the optics... I'm not saying that there weren't some pretty cruddy ones made then, but I've got a couple that feel like they were made like tanks, and have optics to match. That, in my book, is how they should feel.

I can't say too much about the hotshoe, other than I occasionally pop a flash on there. I've never used it for triggering. Interestingly, I just did a quick search, and found a third-party adapter. Don't know how compatible that is, but it's interesting to say the least.

Not only are they way higher quality than they were 10 years ago, the price has decreased by magnitudes (though I've found that the best value for the money with lower end DSLRs has seemed to be Sony almost always across the board. Of course, correct me if I'm wrong).

I think I better get back to talking about phones. :eek:

Thanks. ;)

~co~
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] .Gibson.:
The rom runs well and is super smooth. Everything works and battery life is amazing. Not much else to talk about. I can see how we got off topic.

Sent from my LTEvo
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chrisliphart:
I tore through 3 adapters before I realized I was asking too much. lol It was smarter and easier in the long run to just go "mainstream" with my gear. lol Okay, enough photo-talk, back to the ROM! ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ssmercurys:
Any way of adding back in the weather animations? Or what files that would involve? I like seeing those on the screen *I know its stupid but I find it amusing*

Great rom, battery is bar none the best of all on the forums.

**Edit, Found by adding back in the HTCWeatherWallpaper.apk and setting permissions, after a reboot I now have them back :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] closeone:
Sorry about that. Glad you figured it out. ;)

~co~
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cLo013:
Really, really dumb question. Even though I read through all 48 pages today lol. I flashed your Rom today after coming over from CM10, and for some reason, I'm still getting the 3dot menu bar, and the Recent Apps capacitive button isn't remapped as the Menu button. I used the Superwipe zip before I flashed, so am I just retarded, or missing something? Lol. BTW, I'm not a big Sense fan, but CO, I'm def digging how light and fast this is. I'm not used to most websites showing up as full desktop sites instead of mobile ones, but I like it! Keep up the good work man. I'm already a fan.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] closeone:
Not a dumb question at all. You can set up the functionality of the recent apps button by going into Settings -> Display, gestures & buttons -> Recent apps button. Changing it to option 2 or 3 will hide the 3 dot bar.

I'm glad that you like the ROM!

Thanks,

~co~
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cLo013:
Got it. Thank you sir. Just wanted to say so far, I have been very impressed. I've always been a big CM and AOSP fan, but ur ROM definitely makes Sense tolerable as a DD. I have a feeling I will be keeping this one and look forward to your future versions.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Ivosv82:
This rom is the best, only HTC media link hd doesn't work
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cLo013:
One last question, and I think I'm done for the night. Any idea why what seems to be the battery life is displayed as a very slim line in the very top left of the screen? At first I thought it was just my LCD messing up, but I noticed as my battery got lower, the color and length of it changed and seemed to correspond with my battery life. I still have the normal battery gauge, but on the top left corner of the screen, there's a very slim line that seems to correspond with battery life for some reason.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rodohmes:
Yeah man - that's the MIUI battery bar and it's supposed to do exactly as you explained. You can change its settings through the battery bar app or disable from there also, I think. I'm not using it at the moment.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] closeone:
Sorry for being a little slow on responses tonight.

Humm. Let me see if I can figure out what I removed, and I'll toss it up in the updater for you. I might not get to it tonight, but look for it in the Stock Apps section. ;)

Ah. Beat me to it. ;) Yup, it's an optional feature that places a bar across the top of your screen (corresponding to battery life). It can be switched off in the Battery Bar Settings. Give it a few seconds, as it seems to take just a little time to update after changing the setting.

~co~
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Ivosv82:
I already checked the Stock Apps section :) If you provide update will be nice. Thank you for your work and time for support.