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[Xoom Android Development] lynxboy:
It's not a case of apps in my experience. Ran EOS Stable after full wipe of stock ICS - butter smooth. Full wipe flashed one of the 15x nightlies - Lag, low fps on launcher and browser etc. Full wipe flash 146 - butter smooth. Full wipe flash 15x nightly - lag.

Flashed latest CM and no surprise - butter smooth.

Was running ROMs naked (no apps installed) with no LWP and rebooted to double check when comparing.

The issue lies with the ROM and certain devices. Enough people have posted to confirm this, if I ever get enough free time I'll upload a video to YT.

Regards.
[Xoom Android Development] golfdiesel:
I ran 152 after a factory reset with NO additional apps installed and still it is more sluggish then 146. When I added a couple of widgets to the homescreen it became more sluggish.

So why is 152 with no Apps installed very sluggish and 146 with loads of apps (but no live wallpapers) and a couple of widgets (gmail, email, calendar and bookmarks) very, very smooth?

So it can't be caused by the apps I have installed since there were no apps on it when I tried 152 :)

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[Xoom Android Development] petrossa:
Amen to that. Things like live wallpapers suck cycles like mad. For the rest using it daily for most usual stuff I also use it to watch hd movies on my big flatscreen using hdmi, where the movie comes from my dlna server running on win r8. No stuttering or whatever. On any build since 146
[Xoom Android Development] Mjamocha:
Man you still promoting the Nex 7. It too will become ancient soon lol. Yes I see groans about some lag (I have not experienced any). Xoom may not be as quick as the newer stuff...and some apps may cause some conflicts, and I agree that it's an older device, so folks should keep that in mind. But for day to day use ie. email, movies, games, occupy the kids, internet ...and work stuff; the classic xoom is still a very suitable device especially with the awesome enhancement EOS has blessed us with. It's like owning a classic car. So for those of us that are not worried about keeping up with the Device Jones's, or may not be able to afford a new device at the moment. we're good with what we currently have and are aware of the limits. If our individual technology needs change and something that better suites our new personal agenda comes along-then a decision may be made at that time IMHO. We are well aware that eventually the development on Xoom will come to a crawl. Until then don't knock us yet then soften the blow with an lol on the end. We are in these threads because of appreciation of the device and the devs an to seek some tech support.
[Xoom Android Development] waz675:
Except in the case with people like myself who have 40 or 50 games installed, 80 odd apps on top of system / stock install who dirty upgrades that doesn't have lag. I watch local and LAN 1080 + 720p movies, xfering 100s of megs/gigs a day, install multiple apps a day to test stuff plus run monitoring software. The xoom surprisingly runs great.

So its most likely 'bad app'/data and/or hardware causing the lag not just 'anything ' intensive as i really really push my xoom and the software on it daily up to many hours.
[Xoom Android Development] Apachi2k:
I didn't want to get in on this debate but I am one of those who has the lag. It is obvious and to the point where the system is so annoying that you don't want to use it. For us, 146 is the amazing awesome version that you all love and enjoy. Unfortunately, 15x takes that awesomeness and shoves it somewhere where team EOS can't find it yet. The difference is night and day for us.

I could care less because 146 is more than what I need from my device so thank you Team EOS for this ROM.
[Xoom Android Development] alex94kumar:
I think EOS should update the stable build post on this forum to the 146 nightly. It might even be the last universal non-lag/low fps/stutter/etc build we'll see for a while....
[Xoom Android Development] runandhide05:
Let put a stop to all the negative BS, if a nighly is not to your liking, report the bug, provide your feedback then simply restore something that works for you, we all don’t really need to hear that build XXX is ****, and you’re going back to XXXXXROM i have been reading WAY to much negative comments that are MUCH more than just a bug or lag report, we ALL know what a nightly is WE ALL should know that Without the likes of solarnz, bigrushdog, Kenneth, kevin and many others that continue to work on this and other supported TeamEOS devices we would not have useful solid roms to flash and use FREE of charge. You guys MUST know that the team members are not sitting about in a basement plotting to make your Xoom as laggy as possible, you must know this but the way some of you speak to them/others here its as if you forgot, so read this as a simple friendly reminder that TeamOES does this because they want to make our Xooms run on the cutting edge of what is possible and what it can handle. I can with the up most confidence say that if there is a problem that they are not simply ignoring it, there is constantly commits added on a daily basis almost to their source.

So please remember to be kind and not demanding, or state that there will be no more stable build for a while.

Remember also that we are there testers, its not like they are sitting on nightlies for days testing them themselves, that’s what the nightly users (us) are for.

I can assure you that the additions to their source are not to deliberately sabotage our user experience, but quit the contrary to improve on what is in my option one of the best Android devices out there.

Again please don’t read this as me bashing or flaming anyone, Just the voice of reason. In my years in the android community I have seen MANY teams come and go because of hateful users. And I for one WOULD be VERY VERY VERY pissed if they ever threw in the towel due to hateful comments or discouragement.

So I end this with a very big, very grateful THANK YOU to the TEAM and all the individual members. And May we all continue to enjoy the fruits of their labors.

Sent from a grateful EOSROM user
[Xoom Android Development] rob62551:
+1

Well.stated runandhide!
[Xoom Android Development] TheMainCat:
I decided to sacrifice my Xoom for the greater good. What I found matches what LynxBoy saw. I took my 151 Xoom (which I didn't have any complaints with) and took it back down to scratch (sniff). The benchmark I used for comparison is that new Rayman game, which is very CPU/GPU intensive. On the 151 build, it was noticeably slower than on my phone, so figured if 150 series nightlies are lagging, then this game should move much faster on the 140 series nightlies.

I dropped into 131 first ... just for kicks. Wouldn't you know it, that Rayman game ran at least twice as fast as it did on 151. Moved up to 146...same results...much faster game. Moved up to stable release 3.0, same results as before. When I moved to 147, the game's performance dropped back down to what I was seeing on 151, which kinda suprised me. I went on a tried a couple more (149, 150) and the results were the same...just as slow as 151.

Now I use NovaLauncher and i don't see any real lag with it, regardless of the ROM version. If an app (or widget) isn't real taxing, I don't think most folks will experience the lag. Heck, even movies and video worked ok for me on every version. I think that anything (or lots of little things) that uses a great deal of CPU/GPU is having a harder time with it after 147.
[Xoom Android Development] dkahs23:
Well said !!!!!

---------- Post added at 01:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:53 AM ----------

Also well said !!!
[Xoom Android Development] solarnz:
Ok guys, here's the deal.

I barely use my Xoom anymore, so I need some co-operation from you guys.

What I need is the last "non-laggy" build, and therefore the first build that introduced the "lag". With this information, I will then produce some builds that reflect the individual changes that occurred between the two builds.
[Xoom Android Development] uzi2:
That was clearly put by Themaincat 2 posts above as being 146 and 147. There are a lot of changes between those builds. Good luck!
[Xoom Android Development] NissanNick:
Maybe I missed it.... did we get wifi direct yet?
[Xoom Android Development] emreng:
+1

the stable release has been released after #146. so the last "non buggy" release was #146. imho, the first build introduced the lag was #148.

good luck!
[Xoom Android Development] Muffycheeks:
Thanks for hanging in there Solarnz. Build #146 is going to be a tough act to follow!!!!
[Xoom Android Development] WarLion:
as many said the n146 was very smooth the lag start on 147 i try the all of those till 152, the 152 feel smoother than previews but is still present i notice that using my keyboard (thumbs keyboard )

im current using eos3 but i really miss the good stuff you guys put on jb 4.1.2

we really appreciate all the time and work in this project

thanks

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[Xoom Android Development] logitechor:
I use Custom Roms on an old HTC Magic and Xoom. Have been for quite sometime. I thank all thhe developers.
[Xoom Android Development] HuckFinn:
To all the EOS Devs:

I am simply amazed at the effort you guys put into this in spite of all the negativity. I hope you guys realize how much your work is appreciated. I know I am not in a position to justify getting a new tablet, especially since you guys keep my Xoom humming along pretty nicely, so a huge THANK YOU goes out to all of you guys!
[Xoom Android Development] Jumbie:
+1,000,000

Thanks guys. FWIW, I don't have any lag on my Xoom. However, I don't use live wallpapers or play games and the only widget I use is Extended Settings to control my wifi and brightness so I don't push the device super hard.
[Xoom Android Development] alex94kumar:
Wasn't the free ram/kill all button in the recent apps drawer introduced in 147? That could possibly be a source of the trouble
[Xoom Android Development] jodtalingchan:
Confirmed the latest super smooth build is #146 after that they're all present lag.
[Xoom Android Development] TheMainCat:
..and I think that is the line in the sand that seperates those who have experienced the lag for those who haven't.

Don't misunderstand my findings in my previous post as being negative about the effort being put into this ROM. Loving the work and the results! Like others, I kinda got tired of reading all of the "hey i got lag" and "me too!", but without any clear evidence where it occured and what might be causing it.

...so I trashed my Xoom to find out.

To be clear, I never "experienced" the lag when I was on 151, but then I mainly use my Xoom for "Kindle-ing", internet, documents editing and the occasional video. All of the games on my tablet are there to keep my kids entertained if we are out and about. I figured if the "lag" was real, it was because the device's CPU/GPU was being taxed somehow and consistently. So I figured, if I can find it and pinpoint the build where the change happened and have an app to prove it, that could go a long way for the developers to look into it.

If you are someone who likes to push the limits of your tablet, then you may want to stay on 146 or Stable 3.0. If you don't pound your Xoom, they I think staying current with nightlies is just fine. Once I get my Xoom "put back together", I will be taking a nandroid of it at Stable 3 (already have one from 151), so then I can bounce back and forth between to help with comparisons going forward.

*****************************************************************

Now for my complaining...my app backup got messed up so my restore failed.

I am restoring every app by hand now.

..this sucks!!! :(
[Xoom Android Development] Temnip:
I do a clean install about every five updates. keeps me lag free.

As far as an newer tablet.......why? Cant justify it yet. My Xoom does everything I need it to.

Nexus 10.......Hmmmmmmm?

I am running smoooooth on 151

I do know thIs......whatever tablet I choose next.....it will only be one that is supported by Team EOS.

Thanks guys for all your hard work.
[Xoom Android Development] gibbs1984:
Hmm, upgraded from 141 to 152 but it was very choppy (no problem from me, I had already read the last 100 pages so knew about this but thought I'd try it), then flashed 146 but it bootlooped, so trying to restore my nandroid of 141 but it seems to have got stuck on the "Skipping erase of /data/meda." bit.

What to do now?

EDIT: Still on Rogue XM Recovery 1.5.0 (CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.8) is that still the latest recovery?

EDIT 2: Aborted the flashing of the nandroid and tried to flash an old ROM I had on my SD Card, 126 but that is bootlooping too.

What's happening to my Xoom :(
[Xoom Android Development] uzi2:
It sounds like your data partition may be corrupt. The solution is fastboot -w or fastboot flash userdata userdata.img

Then you will be able to restore your nandroid backups.

Swyped from my Xoom
[Xoom Android Development] golfdiesel:
I fully agree with you. Without the great devs my Xoom wouldn't be half as usefully as it is now.

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[Xoom Android Development] grey.ghost:
On fastboot -w, be sure to back up anything you have on internal SD that you think is important. It will wipe that storage. I agree though, had the same issue and that worked perfectly.
[Xoom Android Development] solarnz:
For those with lag issues since build 146, please flash http://goo.im/devs/solarnz/test_build_1-wingray.zip and report back. This build only contains a small subset of the changes between 146 and 147, so there will likely be more test builds after this as well.
[Xoom Android Development] waz675:
For the people with lag after #146, what recovery are you flashing it with? I'm using the latest TWRP I can find at any one time and fairly sure I posted (might not have had time to press 'submit' tho, been busy as hell this week) that I have about 60 games on my XOOM, ranging from simple kiddie games for my kids to HORN, CHAOS RINGS, and other 'heavy' games, installed 100s of apps (removing lots also) as I do a heap of testing with my XOOM, it probably is screen on 15 hours a day 'pushing' it, I/O transfering, GBs per day usually over network and local, watch 720 and 1080P mkv movies.

Basically my XOOM is my 'companion', I'm fairly laid out with with chronic pain from nerve damage so I like to be "doing something" 24/7 whilst awake, and probably miss 3-4 nights sleep a week from pain issues so I'm using the XOOM to watch movies etc when having insomnia. I'd be hard pressed to find someone pushing the XOOM more AFAIK. No lag, only obviously when the XOOM is at max, I range from stock 1GHZ speed to 1408MHZ as some times I need to crank it for apps as 1GHZ is too slow processing. It reboots at anything past 1408, and I used to undervolt it but guessed I've pushed the CPU over the Year(s) so it's stock voltage now 'just in case'.

*MAYBE* could be the recovery helping the install, just a guess of course, haven't done any intense looking at people with lag and setup, bit too busy with new work I've taken on and my own stuff keeping me busy.

Hope the issue with lag gets sorted, it'd be frustrating having a fresh install later nightly and seeing it lag :eek:
[Xoom Android Development] scottgti:
Bootlooped for me. Back to 152 for me. :)
[Xoom Android Development] alex94kumar:
took the words right out of my mouth! bootloop confirmed
[Xoom Android Development] jodtalingchan:
Dirty flash over 146 and it runs pretty smooth. Didn't notice any lag ... right on track

For those who got bootloop, did you flash over152 or 146?
[Xoom Android Development] uzi2:
Have a free thanks - I hit the wrong button ;)

If you're happily using 152, then you are not going to be able to help here, as only those who are experiencing the lags will be able to highlight the problem.

Yes... the idea is to flash over 146. Solarnz will be producing a build with half the changes.If it.s good then the problem is in the other half, so the next test build will include half of those changes etc. until the culprit is found. Flashing over builds higher than 146 is of no use as they already contain the problem change and it may persist through your saved data.

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[Xoom Android Development] gibbs1984:
Thanks, I'll give that a go :)
[Xoom Android Development] uzi2:
Make sure you have backed up everything on internal storage as it will be formatted.

Swyped from my Xoom
[Xoom Android Development] golfdiesel:
I will try it when I get home. I'll report back here. Thanks!

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[Xoom Android Development] Muffycheeks:
Thanks for your explanation and clarification, some of the guys just don't get it.
[Xoom Android Development] ATZ-007:
Hi everyone. I haven't been following this thread since the release of stable version. Can someone please tell me if the new nightly is based on 4.1.2 and list of cool and useful features which stands out and have been implemented since the release of stable version?

Many thanks to all, specially all developers.
[Xoom Android Development] golfdiesel:
Solarnz, I flashed the test build over 146 and it works perfectly and it is just as smooth as 146.

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[Xoom Android Development] alex94kumar:
why do I get a bootloop when I try to flash anything other than 152? does me trying to flash solarnz's test build from 152 have to do with the problem?
[Xoom Android Development] golfdiesel:
Yes... As it has been stated clearly a couple of messages above, the test build is meant to be flashed on top of 146. If you want to use the test build it is best to do a factory wipe and then flash 146 (or directly the test build), but this is only usefull if you are experiencing problems with 147 and higher.

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[Xoom Android Development] alex94kumar:
alright, thank you kind sir =)
[Xoom Android Development] wingnutta:
ok, i have been away last 2 weeks and i am a bit behind. I have looked over the thread but i am still unsure, so here goes.. I am on 148 and have

no noticable issues (except video playback but i am sure thats app related).. so can i flash the latest 152 or are the latest ones test builds??
[Xoom Android Development] emreng:
if you have no noticable issues, go flash the latest #152. it's obviously more updated. ppl having lag issues which started with the build #147 and so on are going to wait the results of test builds.
[Xoom Android Development] alex94kumar:
Test build results! I factory reset and fixed my boot loop issues when flashing away from 152. I then flashed the test build. As previously confirmed, it runs great! Whatever you did solarnz, it seems to be working perfectly. I'm running at a state of lag seen on 146- none! :)
[Xoom Android Development] Blondblueyed_girl:
To runandhide

I also echo those sentiments, A bloody well done guys for keeping our xooms alive, especial since over here we are still officially on honeycomb:good:
[Xoom Android Development] Blondblueyed_girl:
Just out of interest, has anyone else had problems with audio streaming files that come from sites like the BBC, sometimes playing at 2 to 3 times faster than normal. Don't know if its our ROM or the BBC's fault.
[Xoom Android Development] kcrudup:
I just decid

Hey- it's Kenny. I do the kernels for the Xoom series (UMTS/3G/4G/WiFi-only).

First, forgive me for not subscribing to this thread earlier; I'd been in the MZ602 (LTE Xoom) thread, but not this one (or any of the other subarchs). As I have also made changes to the devices (any change I make goes into every EOS-branded Xoom ROM) I am upset that people are seeing issues with the device, esp. since every change I add to the kernels is done in an effort to improve speed and/or reliability.

That being said, I'm going to review the changes, along with BRD and Solarnz; I'm currently running essentially the same code you guys are, and I really don't have any issues (my Xoom is very much a daily driver, and it's rare you see me w/o my Tablet, and I use it all the time (went on a trip this weekend and didn't even bring the laptop)).

Please be certain that we here at Team EOS are always striving to make our ROM the best, and as such, your concerns and feedback is valuable to us- keep it coming!
[Xoom Android Development] kevdliu:
look at the frameworks/base git logs https://review.teameos.org/#/q/status:merged+project:eos/platform/frameworks/base,n,z

some are features and some are fixes.
[Xoom Android Development] alex94kumar:
:D

something added in after 146 bugged it up, and whether its a kernel issue or something else, im not sure. Whatever solarnz did for his test build works with no lag for me. First thing i noticed in the test build was the absence of the kill all button/ram indicator in the recent apps drawer. maybe this could be part of the issue? (i said this a little bit ago but didnt get any responses)
[Xoom Android Development] solarnz:
Continuation on from this, please flash http://goo.im/devs/solarnz/test_build_2-wingray.zip if you're experiencing lag issues.

This is only for those that are on build 146 / test_build_1. You cannot downgrade from 4.1.2 to a 4.1.1 build (which these test builds are).

Let us know the results :)
[Xoom Android Development] petrossa:
Still it's mighty weird. I have 2 xooms bought in 2 different continents and both work perfectly with any build. Must be a quantity of motherboards with slightly wonky components otherwise I couldn't think of a reason.
[Xoom Android Development] alex94kumar:
Just flashed test build 2. Preliminary results: about the same amount of lag seen on 152.

I should mention that its only on the home screen. Nowhere else on the UI does it lag. If I remember correctly, it was the same as this in 152
[Xoom Android Development] scottgti:
#153 is out.

Thank you for the big "cancel all notifications" button. :thumbup:
[Xoom Android Development] musashiken:
Ok great news, seems like 153 solved the lag issue.

I tried flashing test build 1 over 146 and then test build 2. Test build 1 was as smooth as 146, but test build 2 was laggy.

Then I full wiped and tried the just released 153. The lag seems to be gone. I'll test this build for a while first but so far everything is good.

Edit: Hmm, seems like the lag is not completely gone. I see stuttering every now and then, but on the whole is not as laggy as the nightlies after 146.
[Xoom Android Development] b8892778:
153 solved the lag issue.

Very smooth
[Xoom Android Development] alex94kumar:
would a dirty flash of 153 over test build 2 work?
[Xoom Android Development] Muffycheeks:
The fire is BACK!!! Build #153 solved the lag issue and it seems a step quicker. Thanks Team Eos for your dedication to making this the best rom ever.
[Xoom Android Development] Blondblueyed_girl:
I agree the fire is back in 153, Ohooo yes
[Xoom Android Development] TheMainCat:
I ran my "test" application (Rayman) against the 153 build and I am seeing the same results. 153 runs as smoothly as any of the pre 147 builds. Now I am curious what was done that made the difference. Well done!!!
[Xoom Android Development] kcrudup:
While not saying anything against R'n'H's impassioned post, I do need to make one correction:

Well, we do ensure that they're somewhat stable (and nearly every change has go thru an internal peer review (the "Gerrit" system)) before we foist them onto you guys- it's not like we're all "Hey, it compiles- ship it!*" :D

... that would be MicroSoft
[Xoom Android Development] Cubanluke88:
Stable and fast on 152, full wipe flash from EOS 3 stable release. Will dirty flash 153 in a bit.
[Xoom Android Development] WarLion:
eos is back on track 153 work perfect thanks the lag finally is gone :)

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