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[Off-topic] a.cid:
Bump

Planning to upgrade to a new laptop, but kinda sorta confused between two options. I am importing it from USA (friend is coming back to India around New Years), so I thought I'd get a Black Friday deal, but apparently there aren't any on my two options.

My primary needs are a thin and light laptop that can last me for 3 years at least. I travel to events and have to use the laptop on my lap, inside planes etc, so a tablet+keyboard combo is not feasible. The specs I am looking at are thus:

Thin, light and portable -- do not want to lug around 15/17" gaming laptops anymore

13" FHD display (don't care about touchscreen (can be/cannot be, doesn't matter); and 4K at this size is dumb)

High sRGB coverage, as I often need to view and edit photos and do some pixel peeping

10th Gen Intel -- mainly because I am paying top dollar and want something that is not immediately obsolete. i5 is fine, but my other specs get me i7 options

16GB RAM -- Chrome with 30 tabs open practically always, so definitely need a lot of good RAM. I end up with a ton of open apps at the end of the day, so even 8GB is a dealbreaker for me

512GB SSD -- but options with this are not matching up, so thinking of compromising to a smaller 256GB SSD and using an external drive/upgrading later

Would have loved a discrete graphics card, but options on this either go above budget or screw up battery life. So staying content with Iris Plus graphics for now

Thunderbolt 3 port -- plan to have a neat and clean setup with an external monitor down the line

Preferably one USB Type-A port, just so I don't need to bother with a dongle when I receive pen drives. Type-C pen drives will take some time becoming common in India

I am currently looking at the new Razer Blade Stealth 13 2019, with Iris Plus, 10th gen intel, 256GB for $1500. The second option is the new Dell XPS 13 2019 2in1 which will get me 512GB ssd for $1500. I am kinda torn between both -- Razer has no presence in India, Dell at least sells the same laptops in the country (at much higher pricing). But the Razer has better ports, and I think the ssd can be upgraded, so I can bump it up to like 2TB or whatever some time later. But then the Dell 2in1 gets rave reviews, and people have just generally praised it to be one of the best choices around.

If you had to choose one, which one would you choose?
[Off-topic] karandpr:
The Dell One + Dongle.

If something gets ****ed up atleast Dell India will have spares.
[Off-topic] xYOSIYAx:
Ummmm... yea so whats the best laptop i could get for $200 refurbished in the usa?

Budget is maybe a bit flexible so give me up to 250

I have half a year till i visit my best friend so i have all the time for reviewing
[Off-topic] codevalley:
Mac vs Windows vs Ubuntu

Been a Windows user since 90s. But, work demands me to use a Mac.

So I have Mac, and a few surface laptops, and an Alienware desktop.

Recently to build AOSP, I had to install Ubuntu, accidentally ended up flushing my Alienware disk.

Even after 20+ years, it is still hard to get Ubuntu going. Especially when the Secure boot is enabled in BIOS.
[Off-topic] DiamondJohn:
I am a windows user,and build ROM's using Ubuntu running in VBox.
[Off-topic] codevalley:
Time consuming

Ok, so after making my entire Alienware X1 run Ubuntu (i7 Quad core, 16GB, Nvidia 1060Ti, 1TB SSD), it is still very very slow for a cold build (8-10hrs). Can't imagine how slow it will be on VBox.

I also tried installing Ubuntu 18.04 shell (from windows store) and building on that. Build failed because of underlying structure.
[Off-topic] replica9000:
If VBox is configured right, there shouldn't be any real slowdown. I've been using Debian as my OS since 2006. Haven't had any issues installing it on any machines.
[Off-topic] Droidriven:
Use another distro or a different flavor of Ubuntu that isn't so heavy, one that is a bit more stripped down but still has the essentials. Or, install the lightest linux distro that has the bare minimum then manually install only the packages you need and nothing that you don't need.

There is an old project called Builduntu that is based on Ubuntu and comes pre-installed with the necessary tools to build android, of course, it would need to be updated a bit to build more recent android versions but at the time it came ready to go, no extra setup necessary. There is a Vbox version and a dual-boot version.
[Off-topic] DiamondJohn:
I have a pretty old no-name desktop.

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2700K CPU@ 3.50GHz 4.40 GHz (the 4.4 is an overclock ;))

20.0 GB, 64-Bit (Hardware ram is 24GB)

I assign the VBox 90% CPU, 8 cores (4 real cores hyper-threaded), and 12GB RAM

I have multiple drives assigned to the VBox. eg One for system, another for ROM source, and another for Out and another for ccache. Thus reads and writes go to different controllers and thereby occur in parallel. Some drives are RAID1 non-solid state (ie rotating drives), while at least one is a USB3 portable drive!

Even with the VBox, my build time is around 70min for Oreo, and 90min for Q (after CCache is built, ie second build, a cold build is around twice that I think, CCache is on a rotating drive)
[Off-topic] tuxstudio:
Sorry for the delay.

What I like with fvwm is its ability to make anything you want with it. It doesn't provide a GUI for its preferences, instead you have to rtfm and edit the config with an editor. Fvwm doesn't make any differences with how it deal with configuration commands and styles commands, which make the only limitation is your imagination. Fvwm also provide the Piperead command, which allow you to use the output of shell commands as fvwm commands and settings. For more complex things than simple shell command, you can even use external scripts to generate fvwm's configuration files, which can be incorporated into Fvwm with its Read command.

The drawback is than even if Fvwm is not hard, it's difficulty can be compared to the one of a script language, it is relatively complex, which make you will have to rtfm and experiment, and it can take some time until you get the big picture. Il learned Fvwm with Fvwm-Crystal. Crystal configuration is separated into multiples files into a file hierarchy which make easy to find what you are looking for. Fvwm provide FvwmConsole which can be used at any time to send commands to Fvwm. It is available in Fvwm-Crystal with a key binding, that make very easy to test or debug the whole config, parts of it, or just a single fvwm command. With time, I became the principal contributor to Fvwm-Crystal.

The plus of Fvwm are several:

It just work and that even with a big and complex configuration like Fvwm-Crystal which exercise Fvwm a lot.

You can do whatever you want with it because you are not limited by a GUI for its preferences. Instead, Fvwm provide you with an interface to the Xlib.

Fvwm evolve very slowly and try its best to remain compatible with old configurations, which make its learning curve is not a waste of time and effort. For a config like Fvwm-Crystal, this is very important; this make possible than an user will never lost a single one of its preferences. He/She can even copy ~/.fvwm-crystal from one user to another user or machine and get the same desktop in both cases.

Fvwm provide its own development infrastructure with FvwmConsole which can be used to apply changes on the fly.. With Fvwm-Crystal, you can copy any file from the installation folder FVWM_SYSTEMDIR (typically /usr/share/fvwm-crystal) to FVWM_USERDIR (~/.fvwm-crystal), edit that file and test the changes with "Include filename" into the FvwmConsole or with the "Restart" Fvwm command.

Fvwm configuration can be generated on the fly with scripts. As example, this is how the application menu of Crystal is generated, this provide a fully FreeDesktop compliant menu with even a full support of the additional categories, and that without the need to install a XDG menu. You can even customize that menu and your changes will never be lost. This is the historical reason why I first shifted to Fvwm-Crystal. I improved it in order to get a complete FreeDesktop specification support, that at a time when no other desktops was providing a support for the additional categories of that spec.

And maybe even more...
[Off-topic] ACHILLES R32:
Built a gaming PC for a friend,

This will be his first gaming PC, to stay within budget I used my old Corsair Carbide 300R Case and a spare 2.5" HDD I had laying around.

CPU : Ryzen 5 2600 w/ Stock Cooler

GPU RX580

MB: AsRock B450 Pro

Ram: 16GB Corsair DDR4 LPX 2666MHz

Boot Drive: WD Blue 500GB SSD

Storage: 2.5" Seagate 500GB 7200rpm

Powersupply: Corsair TX650M

Build turned out fantastic, even though the powersupply isn't fully modular. Cable management was a breeze. He will probably freak out when I surprise him with it.

I probably should have gone with 3200MHz ram and a nvme but I think for his needs it will be perfect [emoji4].

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Sent from my Pixel 3a XL
[Off-topic] willam011110:
Guys I wanted to know whether Dell Inspiron 15 5509 supports Intel's new Deeplink technology. If not are Acer Swift 3x/Asus VivoBook Flip TP470 recommended over it. The Dell laptop can be found here
[Off-topic] willam011110:
All I want is a high performance cpu with a good GPU for long term use.
[Off-topic] Bdeford123:
I am looking for someone to teach me how to use kali linux tools. In person or remotely. Will pay generously.
[Off-topic] rejoji3693:
i5 @ 3.3ghz

4 GB ram

1TB hdd

Dell 21" slimtower

ATI radeon 6570 GC

And Windows 7 ultimate..
[Off-topic] galaxys:
My Acer Chromebook works a treat! No more Microsoft PC's for me!
[Off-topic] mizzunet:
Hi,

Would you suggest a cheap-not-bad-thinner laptop for me, as a student's needs in India.

Requirements;

RAM:8GB RAM( I hate lagging, that's why)

Storage: 256 or 512GB is enough

Weight: less than 2kgs

Processor: any for light to medium usage( probably not gonna play games, if yes only light ones)

Dimensions: small is enough I guess

OS: any, Windows 10, Chrome OS or Linux
[Off-topic] boborone:
Really? So, how often is that bullsht when they say you have a limit of 8 GB? My DV7 says it's a max at 8. I'm at 6 now and if my limit is 8, not worried about the bump, but if I can get it higher, why the hell not? I could sure as hell use a boost.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Is it Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge?

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My G75's reported max is 16, but it can run 32gb...
[Off-topic] boborone:
dunno

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834157639

HP says it has a limit of 8

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...link=ot_we/prodlink/en_us/5052162/loc:0&cc=us

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Is it just because the version of windows it came with only supports 8?
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
Damn.. don't know if I should get Kingston HyperX 8gb

$42: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104257&name=Laptop-Memory

or some G.Skill cheap ones

$37: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231482&name=Laptop-Memory

or something else for the HP Envy 4t.. or just wait until prices drop a bit or something >_<..
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
There's no reason for that to be the case. 64 bit has an insanely high theoretical ram limit.
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
Might be limited by the motherboard/CPU. You have one of the first gen i5 I believe. The OS have nothing to do with it. Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit allows more than 8gb of RAM. I don't even know what's the maximum amount allowed by Home Premium

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Found it...

Windows 7 Home Premium max: 16 GB

Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate max: 192 GB

Source: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778(v=vs.85).aspx
[Off-topic] boborone:
Edition of Windows 7	Maximum memory

Starter (32-bit or 64-bit)	2 GB

Any 32-bit version of 7 (except Starter)	4 GB (approximately 3.3 GB available for use)

Home Basic 64-bit	8 GB

Home Premium 64-bit	16 GB

Enterprise 64-bit	192 GB

Business 64-bit	192 GB

Ultimate 64-bit	192 GB

Nevermind, not the OS, I have premium. So, yeah, must be the mb
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
It's Ivy Bridge... everything says Max is 8... 2 slots x 4... but Ivy bridge can use 8gb chips... I see no reason why you can't run 16GB 1600Mhz RAM...
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
Definitely not Ivy Bridge on that HP DV7....

Intel Core i5-480M Processor 2.66GHz with Turbo Boost Technology up to 2.93 GHz

Intel Spec, max 8gb RAM: http://ark.intel.com/products/52952/Intel-Core-i5-480M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_66-GHz

edit: here's the link to his computer spec... http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...ry&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=5052162

The processor and motherboard is the limiting factor for that machine.
[Off-topic] boborone:
saweet man! I'll check their forums out and see if anyone has done it and what they got.
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
Read my previous comment. Your laptop is definitely not an Ivy Bridge if your model was this: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...ry&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=5052162

Intel spec says 8gb Max for the Intel i5-480m processor.
[Off-topic] boborone:
Ahh well fauk. I just don't see going from 6 to 8 making that much a difference. I need to clean it up, back up and reformat again. Do a ton of house cleaning.
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
^Put a SSD in it and you' see great performance ;)
[Off-topic] boborone:
I want to. That I do. Christmas list has an external HDD and an internal SSD on it.

Oh and guys, I'll hit the thanks tomorrow when I'm on my phone again.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
My bad for misinfo on that one... shoulda saw the 1066 ram part...
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
I'm waiting on a SSD deal, specifically Samsung 830 SSD, maybe 128gb is enough for me...

On a side note.. I just found out that the HP Envy 4t Card Reader is or should be a USB 3.0 Card Reader... getting 42.92 MB/s read and 33.36 MB/s write on my Sandisk Extreme Class 10 UHS-1 Card :D Damn surprises from that HP Envy 4t.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
I was in a similar position until I became aware of "hybrid" ssds. It's a regular hd with a flash memory cache. Definitely a noticeable upgrade from an hd but without the prohibitive cost of an ssd. I payed $127 for my Seagate 750gb hybrid ssd.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
I paid almost 800 for my Samsung 830 512gb...
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
Yeah, decent speed, but still not as fast and reliable as SSD in terms of shock/drop resistance.

HP Envy 4t setup: 500gb 5400rpm HDD + 32gb Samsung 830 SSD Cache and sure is a noticeable performance boost as a "Hybrid" but no where near a Samsung 830 SSD 128gb performance alone (running on MBP). At first I had a thought about getting the Seagate 750gb Hybrid, but didn't convince me enough for performance and I didn't need huge amount of storage. But this varies from user to user, storage/price = Seagate. performance = some name brand SSD (Samsung 830, Crucial M4, Sandisk Extreme, etc.)

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I could have bought a fancy laptop or camera with that amount of cash :D I'm just waiting for the 128gb to be around $70-$80 before buying another.
[Off-topic] boborone:
Nice! Not bad all. I've got a full 750 now. I want an external to hold backups and media on. Got another slot for an internal. Tossing ideas of a windows install on internal SSD after I get that. But now I need to read up on this hybrid you speak of.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
I was dru k when I bout it all... its a g75vw 512gb Samsung 830 750gb sata 16gb ram and upgraded WiFi card... 32gb ram is on the birthday list...
[Off-topic] boborone:
Yeah that's why it'd just be a windows install if I got one. With that money I'd be at almost an ultra portable. Which is what I really want.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
I want to build a desktop... or have falcon nw build it lol
[Off-topic] boborone:
I wanted a Mac air for the longest. Now windows OEMs are finally making good price point ultras to compete. I want something I can carry around. A 10 lb 17" is not that.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Yea my g75 isn't exactly small... it came with a damn backpack...
[Off-topic] boborone:
Check this. Mine has a steel strap.

Swiss bags. I posted it in the backpack thread. Strong as hell bag.
[Off-topic] shadowskorch:
Thank you!
[Off-topic] Allanitomwesh:
Kingston ssdnow V+200 120gb upgrade kit or sandisk extreme 120gb bare drive. I'm really interested in the Kingston cause it comes with everything to install it. Any other drives around that there that are packaged like the Kingston?
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Define install. If you just mean turning some screws to take out the old HD and insert the new one there's no reason to go with a whole kit to do that. All you need is a screwdriver.
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
Define the cost.

I personally would go: 1) Samsung 830 2) Crucial M4 3) Sandisk Extreme 4) Kingston HyperX

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I think he means Kingston comes with a hard drive enclosure + software.

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My question: Is it stupid to have a Samsung 830 32gb mSATA SSD Cache along with a Samsung 830 128gb SATA SSD as main drive? lol
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Ok I know I ask alot of questions but this is the last one.

No more high end laptop, I realized I dont need one. So its either

Vizio CT14-A0 or Hp Envy 4 1030us

Pros for the Vizio :

1600*800 | Hp is 1366*768

128gb SSD | Hp is 32gb Cache SSD

3.4 Lbs | Hp is 3.9 Lbs

.67" Thin | Hp is .78" Thin

No Bloat | HP is bloated

Pros for the HP:

5-6 Hour Battery | Vizio is 4-5

Backlit Keyboard | None

Core i5 Ivy | Core i3 Ivy

500 gb HDD | No HDD

Beats Audio | Regular Audio?

Only real gripe about the Vizio is no backlit (Cant work in dark) and the fact that its an i3.
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Lol you should learn to touch type.

And the screen can kinda light up the keyboard in the dark.

Beats is 120% marketing BS.

Bloat can be removed, although I would rather not have to go through the trouble.

I would personally go for the Vizio because of the screen, ssd, and weight.

Sent from my HTC Rezound
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
I can touch type I'm just saying. Never hurts to have a backlit keyboard :)

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I like vizios big ssd but I don know if ill be able to keep under 128gb of storage. Also you think the i3 vs i5 isn't a big difference?
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
Backlit seems kind of useless if you know where all the keys are. The bad thing about HP Envy 4t backlit is there's no light adjustment, just 1 setting, on or off.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
I've also been reading that the vizios trackpad is horrible. The envy tho is really smooth. Played with one in the store
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
The gestures on both are terrible. But you can always blame the drivers. Hope manufactures update their drivers so it's more smooth.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
I played with the envy in store and the 2 finger scroll was super smooth.
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
I'll still say it could still improve more.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Nothing will be as good as the MacBook ):
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
MacBook trackpad isn't that good either when running Windows 7.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
So run. How do you like it. Would rather have a different laptop or you like it?

True about the windows 7 thing.
[Off-topic] GuyInTheCorner:
I hate both your opinion and your SIG.

But agree with you, once you go MacBook, everything else is a snail with a limp.

Unless you have a decent budget

Sent from PACman'd Desire HD
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
CLICK ME!!!!
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Pointless.
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
Which laptops?

HP Envy 4t is a great laptop, no lag at all in my case with an Intel i3-2377M Sandy Bridge. The only complain I have is the terrible screen, really dim (not really visible outdoors) and the keyboard seems "scratch" easily but I think it could be wiped off.

As for the MacBook Pro, I personally don't like OS X that much after using it for ~2 years. The gesture is great and all, along with the trackpad and screen. Trackpad isn't that good when running in Windows. Drivers occasionally stops working and lose tap to click and 2 finger scroll until you restart the laptop.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Ummm... did you look at the specs? Desktop class i7, 32gb RAM, 2 Video Cards 680m 4gb....
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
I go MacBook Pro, I go back to a Windows based laptop (HP Envy 4t, Asus K53TA-BBR6, and others). Why? OS X isn't that impressive. It isn't as fast as you think it would be. It's all about how one optimize their computer in my case.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
No one needs those specs. It's pointless.
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
^SSDs are amazing though... :p
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
FTFY
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Even if I didnt browse the web, I need to spend 6600 on a laptop that makes maybe, photoshop open a second faster.. Wow worth it.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Are you able to take a joke?
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
I need the top of the line MacBook Pro Retina... Only $3,749 before tax and stupid recycle fee ;) before buying accessories for output... Just to run Windows 7 :D
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Do you not understand what gaming is?
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Not sure why you need a 6600$ computer to be able to play Warcraft on such high graphics you can see a night elf Mohawks hair gel
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
While it's not something anybody "needs" there are some perks. Like being able to handle physics like these

[YOUTUBE]BdvEgC2XlSs[/YOUTUBE]

A lot of those videos had to be constructed from screenshots just because it stuttered on the PC.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Why would anyone game on a laptop anyway, I feel like gaming is something desktops should do.
[Off-topic] boborone:
Wow dude, you have no imagination or out of the box mind or way of thinking do you? Should just stick to pragmatic apple.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Lol. IM not a gamer. I dont know. Console gaming is real gaming anyway. Mouse and keyboard games are stupid, even for the fact that you have to buy an upgrading graphics card every year to play new games. And how is my opinion on playing games on a laptop bad..? Screens are smaller, laptops get hot.. just doesnt seem practical.

The post above me has nothing to do with anything and made no sense. Good job bud.
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
16GB? what kind of i7? And i heard the GTX 690's had issues OC'ing as well as the 680's. if you have no desire in AMD than i could only suggest the http://www.frys.com/product/7049101?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

or if you honestly want the 690 take a look here

http://www.frys.com/product/7133972?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

the price is high for a reason
[Off-topic] Allanitomwesh:
You didn't give proper details for your system the first time,and you haven't said what the upgrade is achieving (better gaming, Photoshop?) So I doubt you'll get much advice.
[Off-topic] heinrichkaiser:
Hello can anyone solve my problem..?
[Off-topic] atticus182:
Here's my rig! http://specs.tweak.to/18271

Basically:

Corsair 650D w/ be quiet! Shadow Wings casefans

be quiet! Straight Power E9 PSU

MSI Z77A-GD65 Mobo

Intel Core i5 3570K @ 4.2Ghz w/ Corsair H100 CPU cooler

16GB Corsair Vengeance RAM

256GB Crucial M4 & 2TB Seagate Barracuda

ASUS GTX670 DCU2 TOP

Dell U2312HM Monitor
[Off-topic] jaseglenn4:
Damn that's a clean looking PC!

Nice rig bro.
[Off-topic] TravisBean:
You must do alot of video editing/converting/burning.
[Off-topic] atticus182:
Thanks :D

Ha not really.. But Virtual Machines eat RAM like a fat lady eats cake, so hence the 16GB of RAM..

I think it's a pretty balanced machine overall, no real overkills for what I'm using it for IMO :)
[Off-topic] Allanitomwesh:
Super. Very very nice.
[Off-topic] MaBlo:
Ordered this one yesterday. Sorry for the pic, didn't bother copy everything because I'm on my cellphone.