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[Off-topic] karandpr:
1)Not noticeable to nomal user.

2) MSI has best Ryzen boards. I had a Gigabyte motherboard on my older PC. Yet I chose MSI over Gigabyte. Asus' TUF motherboard has 5 year warranty and long lasting capacitors.

3) B450 is very close to X470 (It's X470, I made a mistake). The only difference is number of SATA ports and USB 3.1 ports.

4)MSI B450M Pro-VDH / MSI B450M Mortar/ MSI B450M Tomahawk / ASUS TUF B450-Plus Gaming.

MSI Pro VDH is a killer at the price. Almost all high end features at the cheapest price.

5) My requirement for laptops is less weight , good keyboards ,non-glossy screens and 4 USB ports. The internal hardware makes little difference since I personally think 15W processors provide similar performance. Check the benchmarks and you might find similar pattern.

So I would get a cheap i3 8th gen laptop and attach an SSD as long as screen and keyboard are good.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Thanks again Friend

1). MSI has best Ryzen boards means - it has least problems/bugs with Ryzens cause a couple of months ago 95% motherboards had issues with Ryzens. So is it that the case?

2). The idea of finding an i3 with HDD and putting a SSD of my choosing was my goal, it's so nice that someone shares my vision to save money :)

3). All 15W mobile CPUs will have almost the same benchmark points?
[Off-topic] karandpr:
1)https://www.anandtech.com/show/1309...ryzen-a-quick-look-at-all-the-motherboards/22 . Most of reddit AMD swears by MSI and MSI has really upped their AMD game. B350 Motherboards still have issues with Ryzen. New B450 ones are really good.

2) I do think weight and keyboard are the important things while buying a laptop. Performance is secondary.

3) You can see some benchmarks where mobile i5s outperform i7s of same generation. i3 has 4 cores i5 has 4 + HyperThreading and i7 has 6 + HyperThreading. Unless you are into heavy CPU intensive tasks ,it's pointless to go for i5s or i7s.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
You're making some very interesting points!

1). Putting top 3 Ryzen chipsets for motherboards in terns of potential problems with CPU in a TOP3 ranking where 1 is problematic and 3 is least problematic, would it be like this? 1. B350, 2. B450, 3. X470?

2). Mobile i5 outperformed mobile i7 of the same generation? How is that possible? The thing that comes ro mind is therma thortling, something with internal GFX, something with HyperThreading. Can You enlighten me please?

3).Why should I take i3 8gen over cheaper i3 7gen? Please answer
[Off-topic] karandpr:
1.) 1) B350 2&3 ) B450/X470

2) Probably some high quality i5 samples and low quality i7 samples .

3) 7th gen i3 is dual core 4 threads @ 3Ghz. 8th gen is 4 cores @ 3.6ghz
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Thanks mate, You got me there with the 2). point. I never would have guessed.

1). Is it dangerous to buy a Ryzen laptop? Due to possible lack of drivers for Linux.

2) Which platform You would buy for A) laptop B) PC platform = AMD or Intel
[Off-topic] karandpr:
1) Sadly Linux sucks for laptop. The power management is awful across all distros. I think you will be able to boot and use WiFi on a Ryzen Laptop. Not sure about all features like Bluetooth.

2) In an ideal situation Intel for both. Got a Ryzen desktop because the socket is supported till 2020(2 more generations). Intel changes socket every year so I am worried about spares. Not many Ryzen laptops so I would go for Intel.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Very smart of You.

May I please know what config do You have in your PC and in your Laptop provided that You have one?
[Off-topic] karandpr:
I have a Ryzen 2400G + MSI B450 Mortar + 2 x 16 GB Corsair Vengeance 3000Mhz + Kingston 240 GB SSD.

Laptop is quite old. i5 2nd Gen + 6GB Ram + Kingston 240 GB SSD + GeForce 630 .
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
1.. Both Kingston 240 GB SSD are typical, normal 2,5" inch size?

2. Will I be able to feel any difference while browsing net, starting PC when I use a Samsung 2,5" SSD 860 EVO SSD 500 GB compared to Samsung M,2 970 EVO Pciex 3.0 4x NVMe 500GB? - in every day use.

When would I feel the difference?
[Off-topic] karandpr:
1.) Yep. Both are same models. 2.5"

2) No idea dude. M2 drives are faster

But web browsers don't use much disk I/O .

You will notice the difference while using PS or Illustrator or doing some stuff with vectors.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
How about using Virtual Machines?
[Off-topic] karandpr:
Probably some difference while installing new OS.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
1. I was afraid that You're going to say that :(

2. (Don't get me wrong, you're absolutly right..... and Friend I thank You so much for reassuring that my decisions are right. You're an awesome dude!)

3. There are some connectors like this USB-C---------[chip]----RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet. Can I put into my smartphone the one end (USB-C) and to the other connect a LAN cable and will it work?
[Off-topic] karandpr:
3) Nope. It won't work. You should probably use USB tethering or Hotspot.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
1. Why so You put so much pressure on Your potential laptop having the right amount of USB ports when You can use a USB HUB? Is there a catch to it?

2. Offtopic: Do You know which one of Xiaomi phones besides POCO and Redmi Note 5 Pro has the biggest custom rom supporr? What do You think? Which one? And how to check it quickly other than going in each site on XDA dedicated to a thousand of Xiaomi phones:(
[Off-topic] karandpr:
1.) Android doesn't support it.

Use a USB hub and tell me how the performance is ... You will realize what I am talking about ....

2) I have no idea about Xiaomi section. You will have to navigate to each section and see for yourself.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
1. So I guess thatYou want to avoid situations with sharing one ports bandwitch among all HUB?

2. Why did You said "Android doesn't support it" - You install Android on laptop?!

3. How about Samsung. S7E or S8 has better chance of having more custom roms in Your opinion?

4. Is is worth buying OnePlus 6t over S8? (sell S8 and buy 6t)?
[Off-topic] karandpr:
1/2. I thought you were asking for USB to ethernet.

3/4: Thats a personal choice. Get whatever works for you.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
1. Again we think the same way.

2.Can You please tell me what phones do you have and would like to have in the future?

3. What do You think about OnePlus 6t, Note9, Samsung S10+? Which would You choose?
[Off-topic] karandpr:
1/2/3 ) Don't care. New phones get released every 2 months so it's no longer a novelty. Any phone works as long as it runs Android One.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Futuristic but that accually right. What is the latest device that came out with Android One and not being Google Pixel 3?

Motorola One? 5 months back and cheap phone?
[Off-topic] Droidriven:
What do you mean android doesn't support USB hub? I use a 4 port USB hub on my android devices, I can use it to pretty much connect and use whatever I want except charge at the same time, I could charge at the same time if I had a powered USB hub, at least, I could with the devices that support charging via powered hub.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Our friend was mistaken and explained that.

Can You turn back ans answer my questions based on YOUR OPINION please?
[Off-topic] karandpr:
Some Nokia phones in last week's MWC.

Android doesn't support USB-C to Ethernet RJ45 Dock based Reverse Tethering.

Either I go for USB-USB tethering or wireless mobile hotspot.

At some deep level I would have to ask myself, why would I want to buy a dongle and attach a RJ 45.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
When You dont trust your brothers WiFi :(
[Off-topic] Droidriven:
Yes, I saw the correction when I scrolled further down.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
I saw a device USBC---------[Box with chip] (RJ45 gigabit ethernet)-------

it is:

plug and play with windows, linux, macbook, Ipad, tablet and Android if it has drives to that (common drives I think)
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Can You please give me an advice for Asus laptops that have:

- minimum Intel Core i5-8265U, 8 GB RAM, 250 GB SSD (preferably M.2 NVMe)

- no OS or Windows

- TouchScreen or IPS Glare Screen

by advice I mean model names that You've heard that are good?
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
There is a laptop with only 2 USB-C (USB3.1gen1) ports, one is used for putting in charger and the other one is used for the rest.

Please help me decide witch product shall I buy to have more normal USB ports and some USBC ports aswell.

I also would need an external Gigabit Netowrk card - WARNING: There are cards that are even compatible with laptops, Ipads but most importantly with Androids. There is a chance that you can connect a smarphone direct from a RJ45 cable trouch USBC to the internet. I would like to have that kind of card.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Are Acer laptops that bad?

I read about Acer 5 Nitro and Acer Heli Predator and people are not satisfied :(

What's going on with Acer, every model has problems like never before - so custemers say :(
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
Stay away from acer laptops, I'd say. I have one for four years and while price to performance rate is not bad, the speakers literally burned TWICE, the dvd drive is toast, and the whole thing looks like it's gonna fall apart.

Actually, stay away from consumer laptops generally. Manufacturers don't make laptops reliable any more like they did a decade back.

I've recently got myself a Thinkpad r61 (cause I'm broke lol) which is in a relatively good condition after 9 years (apart from it's battery) and i bet it'll run another ten years until the specs won't cut it.

So, I'll tell you to buy some business grade laptops instead of donglebooks if you want a laptop that won't die when you sneeze on it.

That's my opinion, research well before you buy anything.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Thanks, that's a valueable opinion!

1. Can you tell me when and what price did you pay for that laptop?

2. What is it CPU and RAM?

3. Does any of Your point of view apply to desktops? Maybe it's stupid question but I'd rather know :)
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
1)Bought it two weeks ago. Paid 300 TRY which roughly translates into 60 USD. I have a desktop computer with dual monitor setup but i really needed a computer to carry with me (i study engineering) so with limited budget i got myself a thinkpad and i don't regret it.

2) Core 2 duo t7700 (2.4G, 2c, 2t) and 2 gigs of ddr2 ram. Upgradeble to t9500 and 8 gb of ram. Kick in an SSD and it'll be as good as new laptop.

3) it depends. I'd rather build a custom one as a desktop. For example, i don't play games and i rarely do cpu intensive tasks. However, i need ram and storage, so as a result I've got intel core i5-520m, 8gb of ddr3, 1tb + 250gb hdd (hdd is fast enough for me), a dvd-ram drive and no graphics card. The ram and mobo are second hand, so i saved tons of money and I'm pretty much statisfied. Btw, using old computer cases is fine if you manage the airflow. I use one from optiplex gx260. Google it, i dare you.

But afaik there aren't many business laptops that are both durable and have gaming grade hardware. You get some, you lose some.

Edit: most business desktops like the gx260 i mentioned use proprietary hardware inside which can be a real fkin pain in your booty. (i had to use hot glue to fit a standard mobo!)
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Thank You, I share your common sense :) It's rare nowadays/

Due to my bad English can You transform the quote I cut below?
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
1) Business laptops don't have fancy GPUs because they are built for durability, not games.

2) Business desktop PCs have non-standard motherboards, PSUs and front panel pinouts. I have one of those low profile desktops and i had to use hot glue instead of screws to mount the motherboard.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Could You give an example of non-standard motherboards and PSUs? Any why them, not popular ones mmm......
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
To improve efficiency and reduce overall manufacturing cost.

Imagine this way: you sell hundreds or thousands of computers to enterprises. This means you have to provide technical support and keep things a bit less expensive.

You might want to design a custom motherboard so that the CPU is correctly aligned to the exhaust vents (i saw something like that in a hp workstation) or group all front panel peripherals (like usb or power btn) into one ribbon cable for easy maintenance (as seen in my dell optiplex before i upgraded it).

Remember i was talking about enterprises? That means usually the OEM has to provide some sort of repair service. If you make computers modular, like my thinkpad or my optiplex, the repair effort (and thus the labor cost) drops significantly. And since no one bothers to upgrade them, you end up seeing PSUs that slide in, motherboard that mount on a tray that slides into the case.

At least, most of the time, the psu has an atx standard and rear ports on a motherboard can be aligned.

I'll attach a pic of my custom build as a bonus.

Quick specs:

CPU: intel core i5-520m (from intel celeron 2 ghz, pre northwood)

RAM: 8gb ddr3 kingston hyperx genesis (from 512 mb ddr)

No graphics card.

Stock 180w OEM psu.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Wow, dude!

1. First of all, you should be a corporate trainer (teacher) cause You can write in a way that even dumb people like me could understand.

2. I googled your Dell Case - it's beautiful.

3. Can You circle on that pic the tube that you talked about?

4. Please stay a frequent guest in this forum, clone yourself etc. We need people like You seriosly

---------- Post added at 07:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:38 PM ----------

Wow, dude!

1. First of all, you should be a corporate trainer (teacher) cause You can write in a way that even dumb people like me could understand.

2. I googled your Dell Case - it's beautiful.

3. Can You circle on that pic the tube that you talked about?

4. Please stay a frequent guest in this forum, clone yourself etc. We need people like You, seriously.

5. BTW What Do You like your phone? It's so expensive ;)))
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Which laster printer is not expensive in usage? For home use only Scan+Printer in 1.

Which INK ALLin ONE is not expensive in usage?

and both are new and STILL available?
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
I'm really glad that i can teach! Even if english is not my native language.

3) Which tube i was talking about?

5) haa, i knew you did it :laugh: I like my lenovo though, it serves me well with custom roms.

A laser is always cheaper in the long run. Depending on how you print, you can make the cartridge last really long. The stock toner in the now 12 yro multifunction hp laserjet lasted 11 years with occational printing and economode.

Meanwhile, inkjet printers are dirt cheap but their cartridges are overpriced on purpose, not to mention that inks dry if not used. So not a viable option in the long run.

Buying color laser will cost more than inkjet but will save money later on.

Also buy from known brands. Their toners are easier to find.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
1. This "tube" (I don't know a better word") - " group all front panel peripherals (like usb or power btn) into one ribbon cable for easy maintenance (as seen in my dell optiplex before i upgraded it"

2. Your English is overwhelmingly good + no doubt of high skills in teaching/forming/passing information on!

3. I saw your case, it reminded me of a PC that I used (Dell or HP). The funny thing is that it was way faster than the ones from normal shops with better CPUs. It never crashed or had any driver conflicts. It was like Iphone among PCs, so smooth to work with while not having the best hardware available on the market inside the case.

4. What is your favorite custom rom and what's the best custom rom with fireworks in your opinion?

5. Lenovo Vibe K5 - wow, this phone must have been superb back in the day, having multi mi-mo ac and looks splendid.

6. I only want to print in black. Please give me some names of laser and ink machines and inks/toners manufactuers.

7. I didn't even now You noticed that S10 change in your quote area - what did You think at the beginning? A virus?

8. Come here often please. You're good with this stuff.
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
1) the word you're looking for is "ribbon cable" and looks like this:

2) thanks, being on the Internet helps.

3) These PCs were indeed stable. Even Windows 7 was usable on a 2Ghz Celeron with 400mhz FSB.

4) The quality of custom roms depend on the maintainer. The best rom is the one which is still updated.

5) That phone never meant to be some spotlight-grabbing gadget. It had a midrange SoC, midrange screen and was really cheap - but it has an original design, removable battery, microsd slot, and dolby atmos certified stereo speakers that sound better than most phones.

6) than it should be simple. I unfortunately don't know much about printers but some say Brothers and HPs are good ones.

Will try to come!
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Thanks :)

0. So what did you first think when S10+ above appeared?

5. Can You remember it's premier price and the price that you've paid for it? How much was it?

5,5. Is the battery removable just by gravity and a little hand assist in 5 seconds?

7.

Which phone will be more long lasting in terms that it will not slow down after Android or Interface (Samsung Experience, One UI) upgrades?

I'm looking between these 2 phones for the one that will have a better

CHANCE

for lasting 5 years being as quick and as “battery life good” AS POSSIBLE.

I think all of us know that the OEMs make our phones slower by patches, upgrades with attached algorithms to slowly month after month (so we couldn’t notice) shorten the battery life, slower the speed and make battery consumption bigger with sole intention for us to buy a new model next year or in the next 2 years.

BTW I don’t need the Pen and I don’t play any games and I don’t need a super good cam.

If I don't need the Pen why to bother with Note you may ask?

Well, I hope that Note being the business phone is going to be treated better by Samsung in the above terms than a Galaxy S phone, but maybe it’s the other way around?

What do You think?
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
The phone's retail price was 120 USD, i payed 750 TRY or 130 USD in Turkey after tax and whatnot.

Any phone with a headphone jack and a good dev community will last longer.

Also, better ask in the phone suggestion thread, you'll get better answers.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
I asked in respective forums but I would like to hear your opinion

How do you remove your battery? Do you need a screwdriver?
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
Pop off the cover like any feature phone or any sammy phone before s5. It's easy, and a replacement battery costs $12.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
yeaahhh!! dude that's great!

Do You think it is still worth buying that phone (new from store)?
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
Nah.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
why not?
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
It feels really fragile, and it's unusable for me without installing a rom. In case you ask, i use AOKP 8.1.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Thanks, again a nice answer from You. I'm glad that we came into contact cause You've got this special kind, tidy and specific very good style of answering or explaining things. It's a smooth ride doing a conversation with You. I'm serious.

1. fragile because the case is about to bend and brake or the glass of the screen or fagile to any more amount of running apps cause it has got only 2 GB of RAM?

2. Was it always unusable on stock? What happened then and now?

3. Do You have the www location of AOKP 8.1 ?

4. One time You said that your Galaxy S10+ ;) has very large amount of custom roms to choose from - comparing to what standard, phone or number are you claiming this?

5. Your phone must be special in some why cause a new one costs more than it should. Do You have any idea why it might be?
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
The case is fragile. This is common on smartphones with removable batteries. The RAM is surprisingly enough. I can hold a bunch of apps easily. The number of custom roms can be seen by visiting a specific forum. And the download link is xfer.aokp.co .

I'm glad ro hear that you enjoy the convo with me. I'm enjoying too. :D
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Thank You, once again my Fiend.

I will keep asking cause the answer to it holds the key to few special things (but we will discuss them later).

You mean that the number of custom roms can be seen by visiting XDA's forum site dedicated to your phone, is that right?

If it is right then explain to me based on what you think that the amount of custom roms there is plenty?

Is it based on comparing to XDA's forum to your other phone? or to a then other popular phone that you decided not to buy? What's the key here for saying that?
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Hello Folks!

Which Acer 15,6" has the least failure frequency in Your opinion?
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
Sorry for the wait. I thought i had replied.

Yes, i mean the roms/kernels/recoveries forums here on xda. But the most important thing about custom roms is their stability and whether they're updated. An unstable or outdated rom isn't really a nice choice unless you're fine with it.

I didn't understand the last question.

About the your last post about 15.6" acers, look for the model number on the internet and search for user reviews. Some have more documentation, some have less. I doubt that you'll find any meaningfull answer here.
[Off-topic] DiamondJohn:
I personally found that its not the total number but which ROM is available that makes all the difference. 10 useless ROMs are not as valuable as one or two good ROMs. Of course the good/bad decision is a personal preference. As well as what was said above about keeping it up to date.
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
Correct.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
That's a really good point.

But don't You All think that when a device has more custom roms supported then the probability of existing such a ROM that You talked about is much higher?
[Off-topic] eurodiesel:
It depends. Most of the time, a naive maintainer will pump some dozens of roms you've never heard before (because why not), and settle for their favorite one or two roms, abandoning the rest in the process. Other (mostly noob) users will give "thanks" for those dozens of abandonware, essentially turning those abandoned roms into "thanks collectors".

Or worse, you get a maintainer who builds hundred different roms for hundred different devices they don't own for the same reason - to collect "thanks".

Oh, and there will be someone who will beg for damn volte as if their life would depend on it, which can destroy motivation to build a rom considering the effort and time it takes.
[Off-topic] androidbadboy:
Wow dude, that's what I call an explosion of knowledge!

So what do You think, how to find that phone that will have that perfect custom rom?

If a phone gets on LineageOS www site then is it good for everthing else?
[Off-topic] DiamondJohn:
If you want to play the numbers game, then yes. Personally I build my own ROMs from source, so my big decision is if the device/vendor & kernel are available in the latest version of Android (eg Pie) As generally speaking thats what you need to build a variety/selection of different ROMs

Hey! careful! I build ROMs and distribute them here on XDA, but not for "thanks";) or donations. I am actually just building and testing them for myself, because the ROM was not available to try for myself on my device, and the youtube reviews weren't that informative. And once I have it, I know I would of wanted someone else to have shared. I make it clear if its a one-off. I normally let people know which is my daily, and also give enough info for others to pick up and start building for themselves; and I think that has happened for my device(s) with now a few people building for it.