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[Off-topic] Devildog78965:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Every body I'm working on a PC right now it has win vista home basic x86 (32 bit) and it can do windows updates because the activation service is not running I have tried hot fixes I have tries the system file check and I'm out of ideas any help Thx?

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[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Try another version of windows of available. I never got that working after a restore once. I had to use other means.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
There's your problem.
[Off-topic] Devildog78965:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

I know I reccomended the customer to upgrade to win 7 or get a new PC and she insists that her PC is fine its a 2007 e machine that has a p4 2 GB RAM and other old stuff lol

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[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

If you're not reinstalling, see if a bypass will work and allow updates. There's no reason it shouldn't work unless the dates are off in the bios and calendar. Had that happen on 7 once.
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
An SSD really improves performance, and can actually make Windows somewhat usable.

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[Off-topic] K.A.:
Check attached zip file..has an .html file..couldnt attach it directly..that's a SIW QuickReport...
[Off-topic] ImSoBored:
Intel i7 920 @2.67 GHz

4,00 GB DDR3 RAM

1 TB HDD

ATI Radeon HD 4800 series

Intel DXS58S0 motherboard

GH22NS40 Blu-ray

W7 Ultimate and Ubuntu 12 both 64 bits.

Willing to buy more RAM and SSD, I don't know what to buy first, the PC is kinda slow... :(
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Have at least 8 GBs ram.

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[Off-topic] shimp208:
RAM is pretty cheap and plentiful id recommend at least 8 GB while some would say 16 GB is overkill if you can afford it might as well (Around $100-$120 for 16 GB RAM). Might want to upgrade your graphics as well.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Anyone think its worth waiting a couple months for budget laptops to ship with Ivy Bridge i3's/Pentiums instead of buying a sandy bridge i3/pentium laptop now?
[Off-topic] ImSoBored:
My graphics card isn't good? :(
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Up to you.

Performance shouldn't be a big difference, but heat/power may be.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Also, can anyone tell me what hyperthreading is? I see that a pentium and i3 are basically the same except for the i3 has hyperthreading. Is it a big performance difference?
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Depends if you care about gaming.

For every day tasks, it's more than sufficient unless you want to drive 3 monitors.

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Hyperthreading runs 2 threads per core. Performance is basically the same for a normal use, and many people recommend disabling it in most situations.

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[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
So hyperthreading really has no affect on a basic user? So your saying if I only do like basic web browsing and just basic stuff, a pentium will suffice and I dont need to bump up to an i3?
[Off-topic] ImSoBored:
From what I've read hyperthreading is LIKE 2 cores. With more cores you can peforme more tasks in one time, like scanning for viruses and watch a film, but hyperthreading doesn't work for all applications, and may nnot increase your multitask "performance". Hyperthreading was done before, in 2002, but it failed because in some O.S it even decreased the O.S performance. Hope that helped. :)

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My PC is able to play Battlefield 3 very smoothly, and I think Battlefield 3 has the top graphics right now, and i only use dual-monitor :D. I guess I'll stay like this on the graphics card. Thanks.
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
No, it does not magically allow you to multitask more.

It simply runs two threads, which are like virtual cores, per each physical core.

There aren't any major performance benefits. It may offer slightly improved performance for running heavily multithreaded code, but can can sometimes be less efficient for single-threaded code.

On typical desktop use, it's not very useful.

It only offers slightly improved performance for heavily-multithreaded code that is optimized for Hyperthreading.

If you don't know whether something is optimized for Hyperthreading, then chances are it's not.

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You don't need hyperthreading, although the i3 may or may not have better power/heat usage. (I don't know which specific models you're referring to)
[Off-topic] BlazinThat:
Hey Guys,

I was building my first computer on IBP and i need to know if im missing something in my build or if something should get changed.

All i need my computer to do is play a few games, videos, music, multitasking. Nothing super consuming but i dont want to buy more then i need or less then i need. Im still iffy on the video card but i think it should work. This is what i got so far:

Gamer Mage D245 1 x Case ( Azza Solaris Gaming Case - Black )

1 x Processor ( AMD FX-6100 CPU (6x 3.30GHz/6MB L2 Cache) )

1 x Processor Cooling ( Liquid CPU Cooling System [AMD] - ARC Dual Silent High Performance Fan Upgrade (Push-Pull Airflow) )

1 x Memory ( 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - G.Skill Ripjaws X )

1 x Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 7770 - 1GB - Single Card )

1 x Motherboard ( ASUS M5A97 R2.0 -- AMD 970 )

1 x Power Supply ( 600 Watt - Standard )

1 x Primary Hard Drive ( 60 GB ADATA S511 SSD - Single Drive - FREE Upgrade to 120GB ADATA S510 )

1 x Data Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )

1 x Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit )

1 x Advanced Build Options ( Tuniq TX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound - The best interface between your CPU and the heatsinks )

1 x Advanced Build Options ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Achieve exceptional airflow in your chassis )

1 x Advanced Build Options ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Basic Pro Wiring )

All for about 850 before shipping, which is right in my price range. ANY tips, or advice is welcome.

Thanks.
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
First, try not to just copy/paste all that unnecessary info, as it's hard to read.

Just write the important components (CPU, GPU, RAM, HDD, etc)

General rule of thumb, not trying to single you out.

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I would consider a lot of stuff you selected unnecessary, but everyone has different needs.

An Intel CPU would have better heat/power usage, but if you don't care about that, then AMD is fine.

500GB HDD is too small for me, but whatever's big enough for you.
[Off-topic] MaBlo:
Are you paying extra for those advanced build options? And I don't like that the PSU is non specified. I'll have a look at that site when I get home from work, I assume its ibuypower?
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
I would definitely pay a little extra to get a solid backbone of the PC (case, psu, etc).

Spending that extra $10 on a better cpu doesn't help when your psu breaks.

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[Off-topic] BlazinThat:
Yeah is like 25 30 bucks for those advanced build options. And yes it's ibuypower.

Blazin Fast Reloaded OG
[Off-topic] Theonew:
I wouldn't go with that graphics card if I were you. Its said to have quite a few issues.
[Off-topic] BlazinThat:
Should I go with something older or newer? I can get a radeon HD 7750 or a HD 6450. Otherwise it's nvidia geforce gtx cards.

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[Off-topic] Devildog78965:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Its windows activation service is not running so it won't allow the updates do you know the bypass?

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[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

You'll need to check a torrent site. Sounds like someone deleted something they shouldn't have. Is it running watermarked?
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
They never listen... Decline further service and move on...
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

My wife is a purse/shoe girl. :o

Her surrogate mother calls her Imelda Marcos because of the shoe collection.

I don't care what it is I have to buy her to make her think I'm owed a good splurging. :sly:

-Accidental Asshole aka Jeremy

[Guide] Headphone/Earphone Buying
[Off-topic] Devildog78965:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Well its not watermarked its all normal and stuff but when I left click the computer thing then hit properties it says the activation service isn't started

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[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

iisreset /restart

Or

http://www.tipandtrick.net/windows-...-not-started-or-validation-not-genuine-error/
[Off-topic] :
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Who here is in possession of an XPS 8500?

Sent. That's it. Just sent.
[Off-topic] Devildog78965:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

No but why do u ask?

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[Off-topic] Sparx639:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

I love that, I want to make it my setup but I need some wall arm mounts and another monitor

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[Off-topic] Danial723:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

I need a monitor with HDMI so I can add a third
[Off-topic] androidfoshizzle:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

I need detailed instructions on how to install Ubuntu on live USB...I've done everything possible and I'm getting frustrated, switched boot order, turned off secure boot...its on my USB but isn't booting 12.10 32bit on x64 windows 8 laptop

EDIT: Formated USB to FAT, Hit F12 clicked USB under legacy and booted up..Checked it out for 2 min just to see if everything was working, ..letting it fully charge then later I'll browse everything, should it boot up instantly when I turn the PC? or is that only if I "install" it?

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[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

You just answered your own question...
[Off-topic] BlazinThat:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

I lol'd
[Off-topic] mfsr98:
What do you guys think about this setup:

-AMD A10-5800K;

-MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Motherboard;

-8 GB DDR3 RAM;

-500 GB HD;

I have a case from an old PC that I'll be using for a fresh setup. I was thinking about SSD's but check out the setup above first. I know, no Graphics card but I'll see that later.

I wanna run some games (If it runs, I dunno, BO2 and BF3 then it's good). If there is a also good setup for this price you tell me (like with Intel).

Thanks :)
[Off-topic] bbrad:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

I asked for comments on my setup I got trolled so good luck it looks good to me just crossfire a 6670 with the apus graphics and you can easily play bf3 on high for only about 60$ more dollars

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[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
I suggest avoiding an APU unless you're absolutely certain you don't want to upgrade until you build a whole new rig. A rig with a dedicated graphics solution is always going to outperform a rig with an APU.
[Off-topic] bassie1995:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

It's going to not be possible to run those games, definitely not BF3, with integrated graphics...
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
APU's (especially the A10) aren't like conventional processors, while they have "integrated" graphics, they offer much more than the norm, although not at the same level as dedicated graphics (because, duh).
[Off-topic] :
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Ah, just in case.

Sent. That's it. Just sent.
[Off-topic] mfsr98:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

That's what I was afraid of. Wanting to upgrade later and not being able to. How about a Motherboard with an i3 so I can later upgrade to an i5, will it be worth it? BTW, with this setup and a medium/good graph card, should I be able to run games better? (I always use games as a benchmark lol)
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
What's your graphics solution in that build?
[Off-topic] mfsr98:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

No clue actually. I need opinions on this... (try not to make me spend a lot of money :p)
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Can't help you. I don't recommend components since:

A. It's not my money

B. It's not for my needs

C. I'm not the one who's going to have to use it.

I can only really assess what you're considering already and whether it would be suitable.
[Off-topic] mfsr98:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

I understand, thank you. I just want a graph card that can be able to run at least BO2 and BF3 (stupid benchmark!) :)
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Look for the following specs in your graphics solution:

DirectX 11

1GB graphics memory

You're also going to want at least 4GB RAM and a modern CPU. Don't neglect other components for the sake of beefed out "flashy specs". I suggest that you head over to PC Part Picker and start building systems on there to see just how much you can afford. Building is stupidly easy if you just compare the specs of components and make sure everything is 100% compatible.
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

I have a purse (and I use it)....I'd still rather have the headphones.:D
[Off-topic] bbrad:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Can a phenom x4 965 play battlefield 3 on high

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[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
*Sigh*
[Off-topic] bbrad:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Just just unquate me I don't ever think about looking at that

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[Off-topic] jsarino:
I bought an Acer C7 Chromebook ($199 base version)

--2GB RAM

--320 GB HDD

--4-hour battery cell

There will be a newer version coming out that will have 4GB RAM and a 6-hour battery, but I plan to tinker with mine anyways. Has anyone modified (ie: hardware swap) theirs? Installed Ubuntu?

Edit: not that my suggestion would mean much, but would it be too hard to ask if a separate thread that's just Chromebook-focused be out there? If not, don't mind me, just passing through. :p
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

200 bucks is hell of a deal with those specs on a brand new laptop.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
It's powered by a mobile processor. There is 0 upgradeability.
[Off-topic] :
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

So is anyone in possession of an XPS 8500 here?
[Off-topic] androidfoshizzle:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Why can I only boot my live Ubuntu USB in legacy mode with secure boot off? Can't it boot in UEFI ? I scroll down to the uefi to the USB option but it boots windows?

Does it have to be installed to boot in UEFI ?

"Head&Pepsi"
[Off-topic] cyanogendroid:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Depends on... Well everything. What other stuff is in your machine!
[Off-topic] Sparx639:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Assuming that the other components in your computer aren't acting as a bottleneck to your phenom, then yes, it can play bf3 on high

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[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Not on its own.
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Yeah. The game will use 1 core and the rest of the 3 cores will give you better graphics than a GTX 690
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Even an i5 smokes it and it's integrated gfx are ****.
[Off-topic] bbrad:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

I heard the phenom came with a built in 7950
[Off-topic] Devildog78965:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

No its doesn't

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Who reccomends a good am3 cooler because I'm looking for air cooled and I want to unlock to 6 cores and not over clock yet I've been looking at the cooler master v8 but I'm not sure yet and suggestions appreciated :)

Oh and I have a phenom 4 945

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[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
I've never seen this mentioned so I'll just throw it out there... This utility will unpark all the cores in the Windows Registry, and keep them active...

http://www.coderbag.com/Programming-C/Disable-CPU-Core-Parking-Utility
[Off-topic] bbrad:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

It was a sarcasm -_-
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Well not really. Much better. It comes with 4 GTX Titans in quad SLI plus 8 690s in octa SLI(all inside the CPU). And thats why it manages to play minesweeper, farmville, battlefield 3, crysis 3, and arma 2 on ultra settings.

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Nope. Not sure where you get your info from but I am a certified engineer at the AMD ConTrolling facilities
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Only in the id-10T package.
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

No sir.

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It is a well known fact but is hidden due to the 965's potential
[Off-topic] DROCSID:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Can anyone recommend a good bitcoins-mining setup?
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Well, for dedicated bitcoin mining, I would choose one of these: https://products.butterflylabs.com

However, since you want a setup and GPUs are like 50X better at mining, the best GPUs from personal experience are the ATI 5870 and HD6990.
[Off-topic] :
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

You're interested in bitcoins? Awesome!

NO. DON'T GET BFL PRODUCTS! NO. A
[Off-topic] patriotaki:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

How can you have 2 different wallpapers in screens..I have dual screen but cant have 2 diff wallpapers using windows 8
[Off-topic] bassie1995:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Ultramon works nicely for that :).
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Since Bitcoin is already "established" there's very little to actually be earned by mining at this point. Once there are 21,000,000 in circulation there will be no more.
[Off-topic] Danial723:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Get rid of windows and use linux
[Off-topic] gmaster1:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Why is the bit coin known as a bit coin? To me its just another currency for games that you have to buy to get.

That's right, I'm the premium potaytoman and i seek the TROOOOOF! Problem? :eek:
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
It's a 16-digit code. Take a wild guess.
[Off-topic] gmaster1:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Like i said. Just a waste of money for game money.

That's right, I'm the premium potaytoman and i seek the TROOOOOF! Problem? :eek:
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
I think you missed what I was saying. I'm not going to explain what a bit is in computing but it's a reference to that.
[Off-topic] gmaster1:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

I know what it is.

But all im saying is bitcoins are a waste of time. End...finished...done...

That's right, I'm the premium potaytoman and i seek the TROOOOOF! Problem? :eek:
[Off-topic] BilboSwaggins:
Re: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**[ALL COMPUTER RELATED QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS HE

Right, I need a bit of help. My idle CPU temperature is 60°C. The CPU was a Athlon II X3 (and is now a Phenom II X4). The idle was at around 30°C before I unlocked the 4th core. It was idling at around 65°C with the fourth core. I turned off the 4th core again and now the CPU temperature is still really high. And yes, there is thermal paste and a cooler on it. The stock AMD cooler is pretty big as well, it has all sorts of metal pipes on it and everything.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Heat Sinks (especially OEM ones) are inferior to water, air or even a combination of multiple cooling solutions. You may need a better cooling solution.

You may also have too much paste. Less is more.
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Did a quick search and it looks like unlocking cores breaks the core temp sensor/reading but i don't know if it's supposed fix itself up once you disable the unlocked core. Only someone with experience or smarter than me can answer that, try googling.

Make sure your fans are on full speed at all times, disable power saving features.

Check the cpu/socket temps instead of the core temp and see if there is considerable difference between the 2, both when idling and when under stress. But if it really is 65C or higher then it's gonna cause some damage or the processor might downclock itself.

Finally better cooler, yea AMD's stock coolers are good but not well equipped to handle these conditions.

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Even though i have no real experience with aftermarket coolers i'll say this.

In terms of both cooling and price:

Custom loops>High end closed loops>High end air cooler(in performance)>all other closed loop water coolers.

* In price, high end air>=regular closed loops.

High end air coolers ftw!