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[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
Which case NZXT Phantom 410 or Cooler Master 690 II Advanced or any other suggestions like those two???

what do you guys think about this monitor http://www.amazon.com/AOC-I2353PH-23-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B0062K9LXE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top ?
[Off-topic] Draciel882:
I have the Phantom and its super awesome
[Off-topic] Draciel882:
Also I need your guys' expertise. My moms fiancee gave me this video card and I have no idea of its good or not or if its even worth using. The giant heat sync leads me to believe its good but the lack of the need of external power from PSU makes me think otherwise.

Those are both DVI hook ups and a S Video hook up. Thanks.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Pretty ancient if I'm right, but it appears to be an

ASUS EN8600GT

http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/NVIDIA_Series/EN8600GT_SILENTHTDP256M//
[Off-topic] Draciel882:
Well it can't be that bad. It does DX10 which isn't that far behind haha and SLI which I think is fairly recent isn't it?
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Not at all. That particular card was built for Windows Vista and is a full 2.3 revisions of OpenGL behind.
[Off-topic] Draciel882:
Well then, I won't bother putting it in my computer haha thanks!
[Off-topic] Sparx639:
What card do you have now? If you don't have one this is a great step up from integrated graphics
[Off-topic] Atrizzain:
No need for more than 8 gb of RAM unless you have a workstation that you use for CAD or other programs that are very resource hungry.
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
My Question is that....Can i put any other processor I mean i have Dual core Intel Pentium @2.20GHz can i upgrade it to like any other intel which is Quad core?
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
What is your motherboard? All depends on what it can handle. If there is a Intel quad core with same socket style it will work but v also has to be same wattage I believe
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
All you'll be able to "upgrade" to would be a processor in the same chipset family. So a slightly faster Pentium.
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
so I went ahead and bought the Phantom 410 mid tower chassis white color. and for the power supply instead of going with the Cooler Master GX Series I actually went ahead and bought a Corsair HX 1000 watt modular PSU.
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
Well my graphics card is Intel Chipset family(Kinda ****ty graphics card Cuz I cant play Medal of honor or NFS properly)

No idea what's my motherboard. How do I know it?

Ram is 2GB

System type is 32 bit

I'm running Windows 7 Ulimate
[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
Cpu-z will help you identify what you have.

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[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
You've probably never heard of it but there's this site called Google. You type things in and it returns relevant results. It's kinda obscure so I understand if you've never heard of it.
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
Lol nice one u nailed it!
[Off-topic] DROCSID:
Hahahhahaha that commentaar FTW
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
any body thinks i should refrain from my Corsair HX1000w? i was looking at the Cooler Master GX 750w but the guy at frys said that the cosair for 25$ more was better because it was modular and has 250 more watts. I opened the box and smelled something cant determine if its new smell or burnt plastic?

But i think it might not fit in the phantom case as i tried to put in there but seems hesitant to go in and the bolts somewhat line up
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Why do you care how many watts extra it has? You just built the system, I doubt you are changing anything in it for quite some time. If you really are going to be messing with it pretty often it wouldn't hurt to have some room for improvement but that won't be the case if you built what you needed.
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
well i heard some people say its good and its bad, and some people mentioned the burning smell but cant say its that or just a new smell. but however its not built i just have case and PSU for right now. i'm taking step by step money wise its smarter plus i don't make an ass load lol so i'm just watching out for now. But yes extra watts is better but i'm wondering if its going to work in my case as i said it looks like it might not.
[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
PSU are all the same basic size that I've seen. It should fit fine. Jiggle it a little

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[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
What form factor is the case? The corsair is a 24 pin PSU so it would fit an ATX V2 Mobo and case.
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
Mid Tower ATX http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/crafted_series/phantom_410

PSU http://www.frys.com/product/5598360?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

its just bigger than your normal PSU

My antec 650W is smaller than it
[Off-topic] MrChaosDesire:
Le Humble Laptop

Not that good i7-2670Q(Can't remember!?

Average 8GB RAM with avg. clock speed

Sucky Radeon HD 7690M 1GB VRAM GPU

13.1" 1366x1***(forgot) Monitor

LENOVO!

I reject your reality and substitute my own.
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
CorsairAX850w vs NZXT Hale90 850w? i would like to do fully modular but don't understand on hooking them up lol the 24pin is weird on the other end to put in to PSU
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
Pls help

I have my PC with the ASUS P5Qe , GTX 570, and Corsair TX750. Often, the PC works fine but then later the display just dies out. It happens randomly. Is it my PSU, Motherboard or GPU?

I live out of town and I have no other PC parts to check it out with
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
You've given us nothing to work with. How can we isolate the issue with nothing to go on?

What do you mean the display dies out? Why is it first assumption that your hardware is faulty and not the display? What temperature is your CPU running at?

If your computer works at all its probably not the PSU. If you have a volt meter you can easily test it to be sure with a simple voltage guide since everything is color coordinated.
[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
What kind of display? Have you tried a different one? Not always the PC.

Personal: Would anyone suggest building an fx8350 system now or just upgrading video on my current a2 x4 645? Not even considering an APU setup as it's not really a balance expense wise for performance.

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[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
Sorry about that. The display shows nothing. The computer stays on though, I can hear the music.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Then it isn't any of the components you named. Did you check all cable connections?
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
Yes. Everything is plugged in. It happens just occationally though. By the way, what are the symptoms of a bad psu mobo or gpu?
[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
Mobo has too many parts and symptoms. Ports stop working, ram and card slots go out, won't turn on.

PSU will power off at random. They usually smoke (give off ozone) and explode.

GPU will overheat, cause artifacts, blink video on and off.

Those are just the ones I've seen. The PSU is the best entertainment when caps blow. LCD monitor caps do the same thing

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[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
So do you think it must be the motherboard then? ANd is there a chance that the GPU is all good or just gone?
[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
I think you should still test the monitor.

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[Off-topic] Pennycake:
Get a temperature monitor software that will monitor everything it can. See if anything is overheating.

Have you cleaned it out lately? Dusty GPU fans can cause serious overheating amongst other things (I can't count the number of times that "open it up and clean out the dust" has solved problems).

Check the motherboard capacitors around the GPU - see if they're bulging or leaking or anything bad.

Also, try plugging the display into the integrated graphics' port when the display goes out again - if it works, that'll help to know.

And yeah, it could be an issue with the display itself.
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
Nope, the display works. It just came on 3 seconds ago. Then it became black(Windows Loading) and I pressed reset. The display wont come back on again. However, this is a PC I got from a friend for an unbelievable price. Guess how much?
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
Better have been free, considering all the problems.

-Older than I look, younger than I feel.-
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
It could be the table placemats under the computer... those are meant for a kitchen table...
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
Meh Im gonna put in a new mobo and CPU and this thing will fly. But the price was only $120 lol unbelievable!! Came with a GTX 570 man!
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Came with the headache of messing with it too.
[Off-topic] Pennycake:
Are you sure it's the motherboard, not the GPU ? Did you do something to rule that out ? (tested the GPU in another machine, looked at the mobo and visually confirmed bad caps or something ?)

If the GPU is crap, that might be a really terrible deal, not a great one.
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
I knew it was messed :rolleyes:

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Even if the GPU is crap, which I don't think it is, I got myself a Graphite 600t with an H70 Cooler and lots of fans, 1TB of WD 7200RPM 32MB Cache HDD and a Corsair TX 750 PSU. Not bad at all for 120 loonies . Oh by the way, I just tried the mobo on a different PSU and it did the same thing. Before when it booted w/screen, it showed the hdd light blinking like a good PC, but now when it boots, no HDD light, no power through the USBs. Shouldn't this mean a bad mobo? I reset the CMOS already and tried booting with no hdd. No beeps(I dont think it has a speaker)

I will drive to my friend's on the 8th to test if the GPU is doomed.
[Off-topic] Pennycake:
Sounds like the motherboard, hopefully it didn't take anything else with it. :good:
[Off-topic] Ahish.s:
How do I apply thermal compound to my heat sink properly?
[Off-topic] bassie1995:
Thermal paste? On what heatsink?
[Off-topic] michaelsplus:
Does any one of you have a laptop with a 7870m? If yes, how does it run modern games in 1080p?
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Apply a pea sized bead to the CPU then place the place the heat sink on top and use it to spread the paste around
[Off-topic] roofrider:
I'm not eligible to be answering this but i don't think it's a good idea to spread the paste, a pea-sized drop at the center and just seating the heat sink on it firmly should do it.
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
What PSU do you guys recommend? Either Corsair AX1200 or Cooler Master 1200 or CM Hybrid 1050?
[Off-topic] roofrider:
AX1200, seems like overkill to me..but one for the future if you plan on running more than one high-end gpu.

Definitely overkill if you ask me.

Use this http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp to calculate the required PSU wattage, i would go with the HX series..it's more than sufficient, but the AX is better. It boils down to the price.
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
well i would like to power 5-6 fans, 2 HD 7950's

RIG:

NZXT Phantom 410 Mid-Tower

Whatever PSU that will fit because my hx1000w doesn't seem to fit properly at all.

Either Crosshair V F-Z or Sabertooth or M5990FX PRO 2.0 or Gigabyte UD3

FX 6300 or 8320

16GB G. Skill Sniper 1866MHz

1 HD 7950 for now

2TB 7200 RPM HDD

Possible H70 or H80
[Off-topic] Draciel882:
When I put my cooler on, the instructions told me to spread it around. So I put it on in multiple s bends and its working great. So I think spreading it should be fine.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
I've got a 670m... Games I tested ran fine in 1080p... Only tried Crysis, not a gamer...
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Well your build has changed a bit now.

As far as crossfire of 2 7950s go 750W/850W should do it..but since now you're OCing the processor 1000W will be a safe bet, if u want to get anything higher than that it's completely fine as long as it's efficient like the HX or AX.

If you're really serious about overclocking get the V F-Z and 8350 and H100 or better cooling.

Else Sabertooth is a solid board for OCing. If you're going Gigabyte make sure it's Rev 1.1 or newer.

With 8320+Saber+H80 u can expect an 4.3GHz-4.6GHz.

As i said earlier it's not really my dept. why i said it was i heard spreading it creates air bubbles...usually the methods are one pea-sized dab or a line method, like u some spread it also. Guess it's trail and error.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
The entire point of the paste is to distribute heat efficiently between the cpu and heat sink. A pea sized drop won't do this as efficiently as a pea sized drop spread over the entire area of contact.

Using the heat sink to spread it also prevents bubbles while ensuring the most contact.
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Ya i was wondering about that too, the pea drop does not seem to cover the entire area but almost covers it when it heats up.

What some do is one pea at the middle and four teeny tiny drops surrounding it. Whatever floats the boat i guess.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Normally I'd agree about personal preference but the less paste you can get away with while having total contact the better. Too much paste can cause heating issues.
[Off-topic] Sparx639:
Wish I could thank that one.
[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
This thread could use a thanks allowance. We're all a bunch of helpful and inquisitive nerd burgers. Thanks for all!!!

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[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
Well I was just considering it making it cooler and not OC.

I just put a corsair ax1200, and have another 140mm for top, and bought the sabertooth. Probably going for 6300 though bit cheaper and most games dont utilizes more than.2 except for a few that use 4. But 6 should be fine right or just get an 8320?
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Just to round off the pasting discussion "burning" (not sure if that's the term but it just taxes the cpu so it heats up) the heatsink onto the cpu with any of the various programs helps ensure a better seal faster.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
I use grain of rice sized bead myself, spreading with heatsink...works great in my PC.

-Older than I look, younger than I feel.-
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Saber's a great board, in gaming you won't see much difference between the 2..in rendering obviously the 8 cores are superior and i think it only costs a bit more than 6300 but the 6300 is not power hungry as the 8320, your choice.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/698?vs=699

Well, Skinny can assist you in choosing the right watercooler.
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
After all these years of Intel-ism, I feel like a total idiot. Today, I bought an FX 6300 and an Asus M5A78 and tbh its the best $$ I ever spent! $209.17 only for both! I'll be going to sleep now, but I'll let you all know the FPS of all my games and they are downloading on steam and origin while I type :)

I'll post pics of the build too :)
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
That I can.:thumbup:

-Older than I look, younger than I feel.-
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
Okay cool I heard the h70 is silent
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
It might be...never had a Corsair. What I can tell you is that the hoses on the Antec models are much more flexible, and the pump is more low-profile. The Corsairs just look overly bulky to me.

On the other hand, Corsair has great customer support.

-Older than I look, younger than I feel.-
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
The H70 is very silent. If you lived around BC, I could've given you mine at no cost as I only have the Intel brackets.
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
K

Anyone have any ideas why my NVIDIA card just stops working on certain apps running under W7 64bit?

When this happens the screen goes black returns then I get a pop-up from Windows saying "graphics driver stopped...windows has recovered."

CS5, DxO and Firefox are the ones that usually see the graphics crashes.

Been back and forth on drivers from NVIDIA same thing, except older 2.90 drivers from NVIDIA cause BSODs.

This box is powered by an Antec 650 watt PSU.

Guess I could go with an ATI card.

I have a couple I might be able to squeeze in the teenie case I'm using.

Maybe it's temperature related?...

Hell I dunno...pita...

Thanks for any advice from the very knowledgeable board. :fingers-crossed:
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Running the latest drivers? Those CPU-Z screenies are useless, post a GPU-Z screenie...
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
OK,

Gimme a minute

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[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Temps look good... Driver is out of date... any OC?
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
No GPU OC...CPU clocked up a little nothing drastic.

I'll go back to the latest NVIDIA driver again see if that helps.

I see on the Adobe boards others are having similar bugs with NVIDIA cards also.

The card I have has always been a bit glitchy with Firefox lock-ups, crashing, pink and blue strips\dots.

Most of the problems were driver related and addressed by NV...it's just down to this driver stopped thingy.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
My nVidia is working fine... Everything seems OK from the screenshot...
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
:cool:

I'll cry and whine to the 'ole lady about needing a new 6 series 256bit card.

I was thinking it may have been a crap PSU that's why I bought a higher current Antec.

When in doubt buy a new one.

Amazon here I come!
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
You should get a volt meter for ~$10 so you never have to question if your PSU is malfunctioning again.
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
K...excellent idea!
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
Get it from like craigslist or something, it'll be real cheap
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
Grab a HD 6870 for about 170 to 230 dollars depending on brand and etc...
[Off-topic] :
You guys don't want to know my specs... Embarrassing..

Sent from somewhere too far away from my computer.
[Off-topic] androidfoshizzle:
What can I put in a bitfenix prodigy..?

"Vanilla android >jail broken iOS>90" TV's"
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Any Mini- ITX form factor mobo. Not a very common FF.
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
is it possible to run this: i have bought a HGST 5400rpm 2TB, i would like to run a 7200rpm 2TB as well and ssd? without raiding
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
If you have the slots and power requirements sure...
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
Corsair AX1200 definitely haha

Sabertooth 990FX R2.0

Enough slots too

but how do you set up the whole master and slave **** seeing how there will be 2 Hard Drives & SSD
[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
Bios options for boot drives. Sata should assign itself based on slot used. Dual booting?

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[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
NO Dual BOOT. You know what NVM, im just going to stick with my 2TB HDD and probably wait for a 256 or 512GB SSD Crucial M4.
[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
It's all pretty simple. I have a 1 tb and 300 GB. As long as you're not dual booting, no real configuration needed. IDE would be different but can use cable select much easier.

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[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Lol IDE easier than SATA.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
If you're a "less is less" type of guy.:rolleyes:

-Older than I look, younger than I feel.-
[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
I meant using cable select is easier than setting the pins.

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[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Because master/slave is easier than one drive per channel.
[Off-topic] abhi7395:
2.6 ghz dual core

2 gb ram

280 mb internal nvidia graphics card

160 gb ddr2 hard disc

Windows 8

Thats all...

Looks old and slow...

But enough for me... cause i am learner of os... and try to be a developer....

And not a gamer...

:cool:
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
You'd still benefit greatly from a faster HDD and the prices are the lowest they've ever been.
[Off-topic] :
Basically, I have a Thinkpad T61. Old, and terrible. And, I have the one with the Intel Mobile Chipset GPU (can't do crap), and a terrible 2Ghz CPU.. I wish I could upgrade. Even the RAM. But, I can't upgrade the GPU, cos it's integrated, and, as for the CPU, idk.

Sent from somewhere too far away from my computer.
[Off-topic] gunz.jones:
Best upgrade is a new one. My old laptop still has some life though. Sadly enough, W8 made it more usable.

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[Off-topic] androidfoshizzle:
Between Linux mint 14.1 Ubuntu 12.10 Debian 6.06 what's pros/cons?

"Vanilla android >jail broken iOS>90" TV's"
[Off-topic] XxLostSoulxX:
So far this is my build:

NZXT PHANTOM 410

Asus Sabertooth 990FX

Corsair AX1200

G. Skill Sniper 16GB 1866MHz

3 140mm Nzxt case fans

1 120mm Nzxt case fan

3TB HDD HGST 7200rpm

Next upgrades; 500GB Samsung 840 or Crucial M4 512GB. Or whatever you guys could recommend around that price no more than 400$. Fx 8320, Nzxt kraken x60, HD 7950 or possibly 7970.
[Off-topic] mingolianbeef:
Hey guys. I have the dell inspiron 531s, and its about that time to update the hardware. This is what I want

-4-6 GB of Ram (only have 3)

-already have 300 GB, but I want another 200 so i can put Ubuntu on it

-update my graphics card to the best that it can handle.

-New power supply

-wifi adapter

-bluetooth adapter

any suggestions.?

If all of this is gonna cost me over $250, then I may end up buying a new PC altogether, but I wanna see if u guys can help me out a little :)
[Off-topic] bassie1995:
Buy a new one... You outlined most of a new PC. Scavenge some parts from this and upgrade.

GPU to the best it can handle is really dependent on a lot of factors, so that is way too vague. Don't know what you could get.

Hope it helped :).
[Off-topic] Pennycake:
Yeah, that's basically an entire new computer - you just need a better case, motherboard, and cpu and you're done.

Might as well upgrade that as well.

Plus, I googled the model you have now, and that's a tiny case - you're not going to have a lot of room to do upgrades and I'd guess you'd end up with cooling (lack thereof) issues.

8Gb RAM = $40. I'd suggest 8Gb because 4 isn't going to make much of a difference, and 6 is going to be a space-waster (3x 2Gb sticks, but I don't think your current motherboard has room for that). So 2x 4Gb sticks makes the most sense, is economic, and will serve you well.

1Tb HDD = $70, but you can look around and get them for less. Under 1Tb is a really bad value unless you're getting a used one on eBay or something - I peeked on Newegg and the 250Gb ones are like, $10 less than the 1Tb ones. Why bother ? There are some specs to be picky about, but 1Tb is like, 4x the space for WAY less than 4x the price. In a bigger case with wiggle room, you can easily have a couple HDDs and add as needed - it'd be great for you to have a dedicated backup drive, too (you could use the old HDD).

GPU => what do you want to be able to do ? You can get an HD 6870 / GTX 560 for around $120 if you shop smartly and go for an Amazon Warehouse Deal or refurbished or used. This will depend on the monitor resolution you're running and if you have or would like to add a second/third, et cetera. It also depends on if you play video games or not (I'm not taking into account things that use GPU processing, since if you needed that, you'd already know what you need).

PSU = this is a part you really don't want to cheap out on - a cheap PSU can fail and take everything with it. Mine is 520W and was $60. Learn a bit about how the PSU works if you haven't already - rails and volts and all that good stuff and make sure to check out reviews for individual units since products within the same "brand" can have widely varying quality.

WIFI adapter = Mine was $7. Got a USB one with an antenna, was originally going to do the PCI one, but meh.

Bluetooth = $12-ish for a USB dongle.

So, you're looking at

$40 + $70 + $120 + $60 + $7 + $12 for what you listed. That's $309 - you could probably go for a cheaper GPU, but unless a lot has changed the HD 6870 / 560 are at a really good cost-value place. If you don't want to run a two-GPU setup, you can probably score a decent motherboard for $60-ish. The CPU is to you - look at what you do and benchmarks. I have nothing against AMD, but Intel's CPUs were far ahead for all the video games I play - so I went with them. That cost me $150-ish, I think, because I drove to a MicroCenter near me. AMD is cheaper and can provide good results, it just depends on what you want to do with the computer.

O, and I got a HAF 912 for $50. It's a nice case, you can put fans where you'd like in it and there's lots of room for cable management and for expansion. I can easily see myself still using it as I re-build this machine over the years.