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[Galaxy S III Accessories] xdej:
Did anyone with webtop/lapdock tried this mod to have simultaneous charging and OTG ? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33204466#post33204466

:( :( So it means custom kernel and rooting for me, if I buy the S III :(

The x server does not require rooting. It is important for people wanting to compile linux applications without rooting (for example, using http://code.google.com/p/gentoo-bionic/ for all Gentoo Linux applications). xserver is the output of all non-text linux applications. This and the lapdock enables normal linux activities on the samsung SIII.

I will buy a S III after confirmation that the xserver works on the lapdock. It would be very kind of you if you can tell me if xerver remembers the position of the mouse cursor after undocking and redocking (which means no reset)

The padfone 2 passed this test:

http://www.padfoneclub.com/pl/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?3314.post

but it has no microSD port.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] a32quaeler:
Probably I still don't get what exactly you are aiming at ... however, I installed the x server app, connected the S3 to the Lapdock and started x11 but did not use it in any more complicated way than simply moving the mouse pointer somewhere (the Lapdock simply mirrors the S3 display), disconnected the Lapdock - the mouse pointer was still in its new position on the S3 display and reacting normally - reconnected the Lapdock while keeping the x server in background ... and the mouse pointer was still at its "new" position and reactive. Since it did not reset its position to the origin (like for restarting the app), this seems to tell you, that the xserver is not reseted by the HDMI/allsharecast-output switching ... I guess...

Hope that helped you but I will now remove the xserver app since for that kind of more complicated applications I would rather carry around my notebook pc with ubuntu... The S3+Lapdock is more meant for the easy on-the-go applications in my opinion.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] P0ll0L0c0:
One advantage to using an MHL adapter on the lapdock (as opposed to the All Share Cast) is that while using MHL - you can plug in regular headphones and the sound will shut off on the dock and go to the headphones. I just tested this on my regular TV, since my lapdock has still not arrived. With All Share Cast - if you tried to do the same, video playback will shut off since the All Share Cast can't split the signals.

What this means is that on an airplane, you can output video to the dock and listen to it in private on your headphones when using the MHL adapter.

The only concern I have is regarding the comments about screen stretching when using MHL and the lapdock. Does this also happen when playing video? Because hardware encodes output at a different resolution and aspect ratio than the phone's screen when needed.

If no one else tests it, I'll report back when I get mine.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] xdej:
Thank you very much.

So the 1366x768 pixels of the lapdock screen were just displaying a streched version of the 1280x720 pixels of the S III screen ?

I have hoped for a true 1080p HDMI output, on my big screen :(
[Galaxy S III Accessories] a32quaeler:
The allshare cast dongle is advertised with 1080 HD capabilities but together with the S3, the maximum resolution for the S3 output is 720p. That output is correctly displayed by the Lapdock. The MHL/HDMI adapters work differently and at 1080 - if they work ...
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
Bump
[Galaxy S III Accessories] g2tegg:
I had the Atrix and lapdock and ended up being very dissatisfied. The phone simply was too underpowered for such a concept. Plus, I found the trackpad wasn't responsive enough, although I was impressed by the overall build quality.

From my Atrix days I remembered reading of users running PS3's off of the lapdock with no issues.

For those who loves the idea of a laptop powered by your phone, without Motorola's horribly slow Webtop, check this out. I'm very excited to see this come out, if it ever does.

http://clamcase.com/clambook-android-and-iphone-laptop-dock.html

It looks much sleeker, better screen and two finger capable!!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ZenInsight:
Great idea. May have to use the 5 to 11 pin adapter for SGS 3 or SGN II though, and any future Samsung MHL devices that are now 11 pin
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
I didn't see any pricing on the site.. any word on what it might be?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] g2tegg:
I don't know. Looks like the website hasnt been updated in a while. It still says ICS capable, but no word of JB lol. I'm on the mailing list and haven't received anything yet.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] a32quaeler:
As far as I can see, there are three options:

1. The ClamShell ClamBook mentioned above of which I have only seen computer animations without any information on how the S3 would actually connect to it ... and still no pricing info (but it looks expensive from the materials used) although they claim that it is available "holiday 2012". Hard to believe ...

2. The Samsung Spider Laptop which at least exists in hardware and was presented at the IFA2012

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtWHVx6zRQM). It seems to offer most of that what we are looking for and the price tag is claimed to be around 200 Euros (if it ever comes to the markets outside Korea).

3. The Motorola Lapdock which exists, works with some tweaks/modifications and is sold at about 50$ ...

... what to chose just depends on how optimistic, rich and patient you are :)
[Galaxy S III Accessories] g2tegg:
Rich, no. Patient, sometimes. Optimistic, always. Lol. I'm going to wait. I'm not in a hurry for it but will grab one as soon as its available.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] xdej:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOXlmrHfOWQ shows that its screen is not a touchscreen.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] a32quaeler:
well ... none of these devices has a touchscreen(!)

They are all very similar in fact. The only specific feature of the ClamBook is that it has a two-finger-touch sensitive touchpad (according to their web site).
[Galaxy S III Accessories] a32quaeler:
I don't have the 'official' Samsung MHL-HDMI-Adapter but only the 'chinese' one with the long red wires. With that one, the S3 output on the Lapdock is vertically compressed to about 2/3 of the screen - thus it is not only to small but the aspect ratio is completely wrong and far from the 16:9 that both screens (S3 and Lapdock) share. It seems like the adapter provides 1080 but does not correctly scales the rest...

That happens regardless of the type of the output: videos or apps/homescreen. Big Buck Bunny becomes Really Big Buck Bunny and I tried that and other videos in different resolutions with different players as well. The good point - again - is that you can power the adapter from the Lapdock-USB but of course the MHL-USB-OTG-connection for kb/touchpad is blocked.

I have no idea if the Samsung-MHL-HDMI-adapter behaves the same way (the red one works correctly for my TV however).
[Galaxy S III Accessories] P0ll0L0c0:
Wow. Now I see what you're talking about. I'll have to see if I get the same effect out of my MHL adapters. I have 3 of the older style adapters, and like your red cable - they work great on a regular TV.

I'm just waiting for my micro MHL adapter to arrive so that I can test this out as well - and I'll report back. If so - it's disappointing and really doesn't make sense.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
It's really funny and crazy how all these Manufactures talk up about what their product can do, 1080 etc when in reality any 720 screen will play 1080 and difference between 720 and 1080 is really hard to see difference unless you are sitting say 3 feet or so from a 50 inch plasma and then you might can see...

Not many videos are shot 1080 anyway and most devices that say 1080 are just able to upscale from 720
[Galaxy S III Accessories] teshgnex:
thanks for posting that! I was just about to 'buy it now' for one of those red cables to try out since my lapdock arrived (though the allshare hub is still in the mail...)

back to the drawing board then haha, i guess an otg charging cable might be the next solution + allshare until that spider laptop or clambook are released.. though honestly, it has to have a touchscreen to be the ultimate laptop replacement option...
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ootz0rz:
I've been reading through this thread but I'm a bit confused... if one were to get the motorola lapdock, it will only work with the OTG cable + AllShare dongle? Noone has yet figured out how to get the S3 to do both HDMI+USB via the 11 pin MHL connector, is that correct?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] P0ll0L0c0:
You are correct.

---------- Post added at 12:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:32 PM ----------

The one disappointing thing about relying on the Allshare Cast is that I can't figure out a way to get audio out of a headphone. The Allshare cast quits if it detects a headphone or bluetooth connection. My only thought is that I might try a USB DAC, and hope the Allshare Cast can still run for video only.

The dock itself only has speakers, no headphone port - and for the sake of privacy (use on a plane) it would be nice to use headphones with this setup somehow.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] a32quaeler:
Yes - have a look at my posting on page 2 of this thread ...

"That strange device with the mobile speaker attached to its headphone jack has to be explained: it is a (5 Euro) "USB sound card". That is a bit odd... the Lapdock has stereo speakers which are working well (but not great) and the audio-output via HDMI(cast) to the Lapdock works perfectly (sound is ok and in sync when watching videos & you can control volume etc. from the S3 or the Lapdock keyboard) but the allshare cast SW on the S3 does not allow you to plug in a headphone or connect a bluetooth audio-device to the S3 for output of the video(!)-sound. You can use headphones for mp3-player music while using an HDMI display etc. but when you switch on a video you have to remove headphones otherwise the allshare connection stops. There might be two reasons 1: HDCP, 2: there is a small lag in video display from the wireless transfer protocol and the audio stream is equally lagged on purpose to be well in sync with the video stream. You may want to bypass that artificial restriction because the Lapdock has NO headphone jack ... and you can by using such a "soundcard" which is fully supported by the S3 but the sound is then indeed a bit "in advance" of the video stream."

So you might not be too happy with a DAC...
[Galaxy S III Accessories] P0ll0L0c0:
Damn. Aaaargh. I was charging my DAC to try that exact thing tonight . . . but it looks like I'm destined for disappointment. If my MHL adapters don't work for this application, it sounds like I'm out of luck.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] P0ll0L0c0:
Actually, a possible fix for the audio lag is to use BSplayer for videos. Not only is it the best media player I have ever found, you can change the audio timing by however many mili seconds you choose. We just have to figure out the appropriate value.

Also, if you're using the dongle, you can throw the video onto the other screen while using your S3 for other apps like Web browsing.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] a32quaeler:
Yes, you are right! Thanks for pointing that out.

It works with the "BS Player" app (I bought it already before for the excellent "exit to pop up video" functionality and the SAMBA/LAN support), my "BIGtec USB Soundcard 7.1 USB Adapter" (currently about 5-8 Euros here) and (in my case) an audio offset of about -900 milliseconds (would have thought, that it should have a plus sign - but that's a matter of definition). That way you can use the headphones for allshare cast videos when having the USB-DAC on the Lapdock-USB-port (with OTG to the S3) or directly connected to the S3-USB/OTG.

Edit: at amazon.com the one I have is called "HDE 7.1 Channel USB External Sound Card Audio Adapter" and sells at even less than 3$ - but every similar USB-DAC should do...

P.S.: I had to set the audio offset with the "remember value" checked, exit the video and relaunched the file it in order to adjust it correctly - but then it works for all videos
[Galaxy S III Accessories] deedscreen:
Too tired to make sense, but this popped in my head...

ATTN: This may ammount to nothing at all, BUT:

I might have the key to solving this problem. I haven't slept in a few days, and this idea popped into my head, but I'm too tired to keep going with it. I know it might help, so here 'ya go:

MicroUSB Splitter: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003WUXMW8/ref=cm_ciu_pl_B003WUXMW8_mo3GFW8QLYA5JNL

MicroUSB Female to USB Male, Pin Converter, Soldering, USB Gender changing and so on and so forth...

If this can at all be done, (by us doing a hack) then we're a-okay... Some company needs to do this with all the right pins...:silly:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] P0ll0L0c0:
Both of my MHL adapters work the same way with the lapdock - for some reason the screen aspect ratio gets all screwed up. I used my old Evo 3D and it's MHL adapter, and got the same results. But for some reason, in between rotating the screen - for the barest instant, the aspect ratio would be correct. I've tried playing with aspect ratio options in videos - and still couldn't find a concrete solution to get good MHL out.

That said - I tried my old cheap Ainol tablet, and it's HDMI out worked perfectly with the lapdock. I've got an Android HDMI stick on order, because I fear the Evo 3D may never have a clean solution to MHL out and usb host at the same time. The HDMI stick should allow for a cleaner install, and a minimum of cables and adapters.

Also - my friend ordered the Bionic lapdock from Bensoutlet.com. I compared them (Atrix and Bionic) head to head - and would recommend buying the Bionic lapdock hands down. The screen and keyboard are identical - there's no real differences there. But the orientation and spacing on the Bionic laptop are far superior for our purposes. There's more room to fit in adapters, without having to modify any of the plastic casing. Even if you used the online mods to rotate the connectors on the Atrix dock 180 degrees, there's less room between the connectors and the back lip of the dock.

In short - I recommend buying the Bionic lapdock ($50) over the Atrix lapdock ($40) for the simplicity of the cable connections. Otherwise, they're identical - there were misleading reports online that one had a superior screen and keyboard.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] xdej:
The Nexus 7 can be charged from its third port: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32334709#post32334709. Does the S3 has such a port ?

EDIT: I made a mistake, sorry, the Nexus 7 has a third output port, which is neither the headphone port nor the MHL port.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] 91rangerturbo:
The S3 only has two ports on the phone. One at the very bottom for charging/mhl adapter and audio jack at the very top. I have been looking and waiting on something like this. How can the S3 be the best phone out currently but no one has one of these on the market?? :(
[Galaxy S III Accessories] P0ll0L0c0:
Hey - when you have a chance, can you check to see if your lapdock still works (badly) with the Galaxy S3 using MHL? Both of mine used to work, though the image was stretched as yours. Yesterday, all of a sudden I get an "Out of Range" message from the lapdock when using MHL. I can still use the Allsharecast dongle, and my evo 3D works with the same MHL cable on the lapdock (minus 5 to 11 adapter of course). But for some reason, it seems like the SGS 3 is now outputting a resolution that the lapdock can't handle.

It's just odd all around. I was wondering if my phone got an update, or I changed a setting that all of a sudden won't allow this to work. But this is the case before and after the Jellybean update. I guess I should just settle on the fact that SGS3 MHL and the lapdock will probably never work well together.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] deedscreen:
I was just about to say, how about using the allshare cast donlge with an HDMI adapter and wired OTG???
[Galaxy S III Accessories] P0ll0L0c0:
It's already been discussed a lot on this thread. It works, but there's a substantial sound to video mismatch that you have to account for if you decide to use headphones through USB out.

Regardless - my MHL adapters started working again under the same conditions. I think I have a bum dock and requested a return. I'm getting a Bionic Dock this time around since the hookups are set up with more spacing for the adapters you're going to need.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] bapsack:
well after all i got my atrix lapdock and my EDD-S20EWEGSTD Dock.

Hope my micro Hdmi female to female adapter will come in soon from china so i can test and tell about how it worx
[Galaxy S III Accessories] londonmax:
Keeping my fingers crossed that this works out for you, and then me shortly after!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] bapsack:
well at least the EDD-S20EWEGSTD Dock seems to work fine.....

working hdmi out confirmed

worinkg usb otg confirmed

had it up for a test run on my office monitor today hdmi out was okay

keyboard and mouse were connected via both bluetooth

usb otg was tested with a 4GB stick

so i´m pretty optimistic that it´ll work with the atrix as supposed
[Galaxy S III Accessories] londonmax:
Glad to hear yours works!!! I was looking at the reviews of the EDD-S20EWEGSTD Dock on amazon.de using translate and getting worried: http://www.amazon.de/product-reviews/B009KZ3XE6/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

The only positive reviews were for Note 2 owners. All GS3 owner's reviews were 1-star and reporting incompatibility.

Can I ask what version GS3 you're using? A32qualer made a point in another thread about the different chipsets being the reason for incompatibility: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33757293#post33757293

Hopefully you'll get your fem-fem adaptor ASAP
[Galaxy S III Accessories] a32quaeler:
No need to worry. The Dock EDD-S20EWEGSTD (European/German version) is confirmed by several users to work with the SGS3 I9300 ("international" S3) but only after a firmware update of the S3 from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 or using custom kernels (those based on 4.1.2 or those of 4.1.1 which fix the car dock mode). The reviewers are all complaining because that update is not yet officially available in Germany and yet Samsung officially advertises and sells the dock explicitly for the S3 (and not only for the N2 which works anyhow). In German forums and some amazon.de comments people who flashed their S3 with the official 4.1.2 stock ROM from Poland released a week ago report that the dock is detected by their S3 and everything (HDMI, OTG) works fine with normal HDMI screens etc.. That includes a specific dock mode when a mouse/kb is connected via USB to the smart dock; then the display blanks and the HDMI output automatically switches to landscape (which is good for the use with a lapdock).

However, no one could yet test if the dock is sufficiently powered by a USB power source like the lapdock. And I have to repeat myself: that is all valid for the EDD S20E sold here (US "Note-2-only" version is labeled S20J - I assume they are identical but for a different power plug in the package) and the S3 I9300 which is basically the same hardware as the Note-2 (and different from the US versions of the S3).

I ordered a dock myself but I will probably not flash my S3 but wait for the official release of 4.1.2 (hopefully due in a few weeks/days?) ... partly because I don't want to run into troubles with the allshare dongle which refuses to work if the flash counter is not 0 (there are ways to get around that but currently I rely on that dongle to work).
[Galaxy S III Accessories] bapsack:
well well,....it seems as if I´m pioneer in this field.....okay to get it straight....

my phone is a german GT-I9300 4.0.4 I9300XXLG8

no kernl mods,......just root, directory bind and call record

works with EDD-S20EWEGSTD just fine....

today I had it all up and running to check USB HID devices and HDMI in advance for the lapdock:

HDMI out on a 23´ LED TFT, USB keyboard and mouse were connected and responding

watching a vid from my usb stick with no probs

only audio out I didn´t yet check! But hey,... why shouldn´t that work when every other connection works fine.

BTW The landscape problem I solved with >>ultimate rotation controll<<,..... the screen on prob I solved with >>screen standby<<

Still waiting for the micro HDMI female to female adapter from china.........:eek:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] a32quaeler:
Thanks for the posting! You are still on "4.0.4"?! So they really broke the (up to then fully functional) "smart dock mode" by introducing JB 4.1.1 firmware for S3 ... shame on Samsung! Hope you will get your adapter soon and report on how it works with the Lapdock.

BTW: if it works already in 4.0.4 as it does in 4.1.2, you should actually be able to get the landscape HDMI output / blank screen from using the dock with plugged in mouse/kb without the additional apps. Actually by disabling them because ultimate rotation control will always override the internal settings ... but that's a matter of taste.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] P0ll0L0c0:
I hope the micro HDMI adapter arrives soon, I'm very interested to see how it works. The one thing to keep in mind is that even though the MHL output is working well to other screens, it may not work well with the lapdock. Don't be surprised if your experience is similar to ours - where an image that fits the S3 perfectly will suddenly end up stretched on the lapdock with black bars on top and bottom. Good luck!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Ironman1965:
Actually Sammy broke docking mode after JB ver XXDLH8. Don't know how or why but it would seem that they "forgot" to compile it into the kernel after this version and plain refused to re-enable it until 4.1.2, even after numerous customer complaints. Pretty big bad on their part, but thank goodness for the Developers here on XDA cuz they won't let something like that get by them. ;)

I've also ordered the dock and all the cabling to connect to my lapdock. Hopefully all goes well and I'll get further use from the lapdock. I hate waste and since retiring my Atrix I've been forced to retire the lapdock as well. Glad I can still use it.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mertzi:
Not to be bitter here but I have to ask, why are you discussing the note 2 dock so much in this thread with a completely different topic? There's a lot of stuff here thats informative which I would have missed if someone didnt link to it from the thread which DO indicate to be about the note 2 dock.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Ironman1965:
You need an interface between the lapdock and I9300, and the best option is a wired interface to prevent sync issues. This leaves the dock as the best possible option, and as the title states "Motorola Atrix Lapdock and Galaxy S III". I9300 forum, I9300 thread, I9300 dock, not at all off topic.

Good luck with your research.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
so the lapdock doesn't have a headphone jack right? atleast i don't think I see one.. that seems to be the biggest complaints. it would be perfect if you can route the sound to headphones via the lapdock since it seems to not really work well if you plug it into the phone.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Ironman1965:
For sure not in the original Lapdock, don't know about the 500. Don't imagine it would be too hard to hack one in if desired. I may be putting a jack in mine if the smart dock won't allow audio from it's output jack when HDMI connected. Which ever rout I have to take I'll post images and details when done.

Cheers.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
sounds awesome! I think it would be super badass to have to just plug it in w/ a mhl adapter then the dock would have all the necessary accessories like the headphone jack to already be in there.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Ironman1965:
I'll let you know how it goes. Waiting on mail.

Cheers.