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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mastermind85:
Can someone please explain to me what the 2100mAh mod does exactly? I use a 2100mAh battery regularly, but switch it out for a 1800 when it runs low. Wondering if this will cause any problems.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tiny4579:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

It should make reporting more accurate for 2100mah batteries but it will make it less accurate for other battery sizes. It will not affect battery life. If you swap batteries a lot I wouldn't use the mod but if you generally use the 2100 battery the mod would make sense.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mastermind85:
Hmm, would it be possible for the mod to detect the Milliamp of the battery currently in the phone and switch back and forth as needed? Obviously, it would just need to check on boot since the battery would have to be swapped.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] willyjay:
A couple mods are updated (1% circle and 1% text batteries)

http://www.mediafire.com/?fpnum7yp5uv46

I'll update the others this evening.

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The rom's power_profile.xml is set at 1750 (gsm stock battery).....vzw uses 1850 as a stock battery, and some folks use the 2100 extended battery.....there are no ill effects at the rom's stock setting, so there shouldn't be any ill effects running a 1850 battery with a 2100 power_profile setting (but I probably wouldn't).

Also, I don't know of any way to have the size of battery checked and adjusted automatically.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gkaurin:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Thank you, now I'm just needing to find a 36 dpi and 2100 battery mods
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Supermanpa:
Is there any mod to have dashclock open maximized on the lockscreen when you turn the screen on? I know cm and few other have this built into the rom. I did a thread search, but couldnt find anything. Sorry if this has been asked before...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pennjersey83:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

This is exactly how I feel. I love the quick settings tiles and being able to arrange them anyway I want. I like how in the latest update it automatically takes me to the tiles if I have no notifications. I use quick settings all the time

I don't know what I would do if the quick settings mod was removed from your ROM but I hope I would be able to flash the mod by myself without complications if you decide to remove this feature.

I know this ROM is supposed to be closely related to stock but things like quick settings mod and 'remove all' multitasking apps seem like they should be stock to begin with. Anyway, thanks for all your work Mmuzzy
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] willyjay:
Few more mods uploaded to go with the 1% batteries (2100mAh, 2100mAh with centered lockscreen clock and the WillyJay all-in-one)

http://www.mediafire.com/?fpnum7yp5uv46
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] countryashell:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

adbFreedom's theme is not gonna work with the update is it?

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Nevermind. It worked.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Broadleynine:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Muzzy, this is your BBQ bud, we're just here for the free food and premium beer. You and all those who drop mods for us should be paid for what y'all do because, you and all who develop the awesome mood already do FAR more than you need.

keep us updated

Thanks again bro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] _invader_:
+1, if it's not to someone's liking there's always the Vanilla flavored option...

Also, been lurking around this thread for quite a while and would just like to say this is by far the best ROM I've had the pleasure of using. When I picked up the GNex (on launch day) I stuck to stock ROMs for quite a while being a Nexus device, but with VzW dragging their feet I started looking for alternatives. At this point, I don't ever seem myself moving away from MMuzzy's FrenchVanilla flavored releases...it's the little things like the modified QS tiles that make it worth running over the stock ROM (I don't want or need a lot of changes over stock, but this is definitely one of the better features).

Thanks MMuzzy, and everyone else that has contributed, for all the hard work...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KCP100:
I just installed the latest French Vanilla via dirty flash over mmuzzy 4.2.1 and I was getting seemingly random app crashes, slowness, and all of the quick settings except for my profile and "settings" were gone. I'm sure that was just the dirty flash though, reverted to my backup for now. Great work man, I will definitely be doing a clean flash when I get the time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codfos:
I am really liking the quick settings in FV. I think you should leave them alone UNLESS they interfere with the stability of the ROM. A
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] veloslave:
Anybody know if....

Verizon released a new radio firmware with the official 4.2.2 release?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] snowcraig:
180 degree rotation

Is there anyway to enable this in this ROM?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mmuzzy:
I'm really suprised they slipped so far down but MWalt2 extracted them for us first: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2176895

Possibly. I've never really given it much of a priority as the video apps that I've used never seemed to pay attention to the setting in CM for me when I ran it.

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Thanks for the feedback on Kevdliu's quick settings everyone. I guess my concerns over the changes were unfounded. I won't touch them after all.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ohiomoto:
:good::good::good::good::good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pharpe:
Same thing happened to me. In reading up on the mod I saw mentions of a Quick Settings menu but no one ever said where that was accessed. I went through every option in settings like 10 times looking for it. It was driving me crazy. Finally I figured it out. When you swipe down the quick settings menu there is a tile for Settings. Long press that tile and you will get to the quick settings menu. You can add all of your tiles back from there.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] subsonicbug:
new quick settings tiles

anyone know how to get the media volume control tile back?

There is an option for 'brightness and volume seekbar' tile, but that only let me adjust brightness, I couldn't get it to control volume..

is there a hidden setting im missing?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RW-1:
you swipe it to get to volume slider, and quick press to flip between ring and media.

And if you go to your app drawer, you'll have an icon to get to quick settings if you dont want to long press settings.

Kev's a good dev, may get an option to toggle seekbars, but we'll see.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] subsonicbug:
ooohh.. clever.. kinda hard to not accidentally swipe when trying to adjust volume or get the quick press in the right spot.. but its a clean way of having all those slider controls in the swipe down area.. i like it!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patmw123:
I guess my option is to use the Vanilla build from now on alongside the final version of kevdliu quicksettings before he switched it to default to the tiles. Does anyone have a zip with just the kevdliu quicksettings MOD I am referring to? Thanks guys.

Also: Besides having more features, are there any performance enhancements from FrenchVanilla that the Vanilla ROM doesn't have? Thanks again.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kyle C:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

I may be wrong, but I think both builds are the same other than the mods included on FV.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Frixtion:
Why not just use the 3/7 FV build with older quick settings? Maybe Kevdliu will hook you up with the older QSM. Have you asked him?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chagersc:
hey willyjay - will your 3/1 dark dialer work with 3/17?

thank you!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Frixtion:
donated willyjay, i havent used any of your mods yet but i appreciate your contributions and the way you fulfill requests made by mmuzzy's rom users
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] willyjay:
Its in the all in one mod (willyjay)....just keep contacts.apk and phone.apk in the app folder and delete everything else. Also delete the contents of the framework folder then flash. Or I'll update with a zip later.

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Thank you....I appreciate it!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tatuuud:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Hey willyjay, does your all in one mod have the volume wake? Thank you
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Frixtion:
i just donated to kevdliu and asked for older version of QSM maybe he will share a link maybe he wont i dont know but i asked.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mmuzzy:
I had done this before Kevin updated the MOD. It should work with unmodded AOSP 4.2.2 such as my Vanilla ROM:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38333904&postcount=512
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] willyjay:
No it doesnt....sorry
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Frixtion:
I wasn't wanting it for myself I was only trying to help get it for patmw. I want everyone to be happy. I'm easy to please. Thank you tho
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tatuuud:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

No worries at all. Your mods are great and a must have. Thanks for everything
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pennjersey83:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

My wifi won't stay on when my screen turns off. I have wifi set to stay awake always in the advanced wifi settings. Not using juice defender apps. I didn't have this problem until the 3-17 rom.

Any ideas to help me keep wifi on always? I turn off mobile data when at home so with wifi turning itself off I don't even get certain app notifications.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BOY_:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Did you turn off WiFi optimization? It is anything but! Turn it off if you haven't yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pennjersey83:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

I have wifi optimization turned on. I have always had it on since the day I got this phone. Is the general consensus that wifi optimization is bad on android?

EDIT: just read a couple forums and people seem to like wifi optimization
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BOY_:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Turn it off, it's conflicting with your leave WiFi on setting. The 2 biggest battery killers I've found are WiFi optimization and report from this device (maps settings).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pennjersey83:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Thanks for the suggestion but even when I turn wifi optimization off my wifi still shuts itself off

Edit: never mind thank you it seems to be working now :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tiny4579:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

WiFi optmization works for me and my unreleased test kernel. Its not an issue for everyone. I wonder if the kernel has any impact on whether this issue occurs with WiFi optimization on.

My next kernel with the new WiFi drivers should release today.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patmw123:
I think the link may be broken. I see the thread fine, but the download link within the thread appears to be broken. I appreciate you going to all this effort just for me guys. Would love to find it but I'll manage if not.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mmuzzy:
The link is broken but it's not because it isn't for where the file should be. It seems that dev-host is having issues.

"Memcache::connect(): Server localhost (tcp 1337, udp 0) failed with: Connection refused (111)"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Frixtion:
Heres A link to my drop box with the QSM mmuzzy posted. Im like a hoarder i keep everything.http://db.tt/u3Kr3ayD
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pkgnex:
What about those of us who use WEP on our home routers? :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RW-1:
WEP ?

Oy the pain .... :eek: (I'm sure you have your reasons/needs)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gkaurin:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

ADB will the 36 dpi work with the newest mmuzzy?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patmw123:
Thanks for the link!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pkgnex:
Inside joke... sort of.

I think Tiny is incorporating the 3.4 kernel wifi drivers, and they don't support WEP (unless Tiny has figured something out that other devs haven't yet). Franco tried them on his kernel some time back and everyone loved them for their performance, except for the whiners who couldn't connect to WEP at McDonalds or something. I seem to recall it broke wifi tether on at least some ROMs, too. So, everyone's living with the lower-performing stock drivers, at least those with G-Nex's on franco and most other kernels I can think of. I actually couldn't care less about WEP connectivity... Hat's off to Tiny for breaking the mold!

Edit - just checked Tiny Kernel OP... his just-released kernel doesn't break tether, but does break WEP with the new drivers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pennjersey83:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

So your wifi stays on even when the phone is in deep sleep? Do you have mobile data turned off when connected to wifi?

I always toggle mobile data OFF when I'm connected to wifi but with wifi optimization turned ON my wifi was turning itself off when in deep sleep and I wasn't getting app notifications. I'm always turning off mobile data/wifi depending on where I'm located. I had juice defender a while back and uninstalled it but did a clean flash so I don't think that messed up my settings
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tiny4579:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

I haven't has that issue in a while. Using mwalts 4.2.2 ROM right now. Just an FYI its pointless to toggle off data when on wifi as it turns on on its own. WiFi also uses minimal power but if you're wanting the extra battery savings you can turn it off when not in use. I never turn off data except on screen off during work hours which is automated with Tasker.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pennjersey83:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Thanks for the great tip. I'll be keeping mobile data turned on from now on
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lightsout:
I just got a couple 2200 mAh batteries on amazon. I will be rotating them plus possibly the oem 1850 battery if need be. Should I flash the 2100mAh mod? Not sure what it does but its closer to 2200 than 1850 is. So I thought it may help my batteries perform better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] moosc:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Do these have the stock kernel?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RW-1:
I got the reference, which I had tracked as well, I didn't go to Franco because of tethering breaking, not so much about WEP ...

Yeah, I don't think any of them have totally fixed it yet. But so far I'm ok with the included one, on wifi at home and at work, batt life is good enough for me.

Yes moosc, this is a stock kernel ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] midnightdevil66:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Interesting... I'm experiencing the exact opposite. Clean install. I have it set to on only when plugged in but it always stays on. Any idea?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pennjersey83:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

How long do you leave the phone off before checking? Maybe it's not entering deep sleep. Do you have any apps set to keep wifi alive?

Try gsam battery monitor in the store and you can see what is waking your device and when it's sleeping and wifi activity
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] midnightdevil66:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

I have gsam and checked it along with CPU spy. Goes to deep sleep but Wi-Fi stays on. Even when i set it to never it still stays on. I am running lean kernel 6.1.1. I wonder if it's kernel related.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lightsout:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

I flashed the 317 text battery mod and lost my quick tiles. There are only the top three now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mwalt2:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

To be honest, I doubt it's going to matter. I have never seen the mod proved to do anything. If it actually made a significant difference, Google would have a different value for toro and toroplus roms than for gsm variants imo.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kbohinski:
Hellllpppp!

I dirty flashed the most recent update and now I have my phone failing on any incoming and outgoing call... I tried reflashing with a clean flash, as well as going back a release. I (of course) forgot to make a nandroid.

Otherwise love the rom!

Any Suggestions?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Frixtion:
I was having issues at one point with service I thought it was the ROM and Verizon was experiencing outages almost nationwide. Verizon has a forum somewhere and people were complaining on it.

You can wait for a big dog like mmuzzy, mwalt, or tiny to help. They know the know you know

Or

Did you clean flash as in following the directions of "how to" or used superwipe on page one of OP. Did you flash the new radios provided by Mwalt page one. You might want to try flashing them. Wipe cache partition , wipe dalvik , flash radios. You only have to flash radios once, so if you did you don't need to flash them again.

Or

I would try again with clean flash,1. i use superwipe its one simple step, 2. flash 3/17 3.then gapps, 4.then radios. I'm not sure of the order being correct 3.gapps, 4.radios, but I'm pretty sure you'll be alright as many flashed radios over their current ROM.

Maybe mmuzzy can update the OP to instruct flashing of radios.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lightsout:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Thanks for the reply. Anyone have any idea on my issue of losing quick settings rules after flashing battery mod. Will rehashing ROM bring me back to where I was? I actually did a nandroid maybe I'll just restore.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Frixtion:
Possibly your flashing a previous version of the mod by mistake maybe and I'm pretty sure dirty flashing the ROM will overwrite what you have done wipe cache partition, wipe dalvik, flash rom. At least you've got your nandroid. we are talking 3/17 build right?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Frixtion:
If you have issues and would like people to help please include.

• Which ROM your on Vanilla or French Vanilla and build date

• Mods

• Kernel
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mwalt2:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

The quick settings mod is in systemui.apk, which is also the apk changed for battery mods. Reflash or nandroid will restore. Or put systemui.apk from the rom zip into the battery zip (replace battery version) and flash that.

Look for a zip themer battery mod version and it should work as it adds the battery files to your current systemui.apk.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] midnightdevil66:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Reflashed the ROM and gapps again, and flashed tiny kernel. All is well now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jacobxtyler:
so i just flashed the latest FrenchVanilla rom, and ive had this problem before too, but wherenever i try to install any of the willy jay's mod's i get a system ui error at boot, (specifically the 2100mah and circle clock mod). any ideas?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gkaurin:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Make sure you are flashing a mod that is compatible with the rom you flashed, I am on 3-17 and have flashed the willyjay all-in-one and having no issues.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Flomaster:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Anyone using expanded desktop? If so what are you doing about your navigation buttons? I downloaded that pie app from the market and lost the ability pull my motivation down.

I have been using nova launcher, but it doesn't work correctly with the single swipe from home screen quick settings when no notifications are pending.

sent from my G-nex via Tapacrap
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] techspecs:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

I hate when I can't pull my motivation down. ;) When I was using expanded desktop, pie was the only real option and it worked fine. It was on paosp though...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Frixtion:
I use this app its like expanding desktop except you have access to status bar.http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1497558

You have to reboot phone for it to take affect. It over powers expanded desktop and can be used inconjunction with. I made a Tasker widget w/Secure Settings app plugin and added widget to Wave Launcher App for easy access anytime to original CM expanded desktop when I want to get rid of status bar.

(Edit) Its not a perfect system as getting navigation buttons back takes a reboot but if your using LMT its good. You also have to disable Full Screen Toggle before doing a factory data reset as it remains disabled if you don't and getting into your app drawer can be tricky if you don't auto restore your apps., so you have to wait for a app like root explorer to install so you can install LMT or full screen toggle and disable. I'm sure some brainiac would adb push or side load
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] willyjay:
Did you flash the rom and mod during the same recovery session? If so, you need to reflash the rom (plus gapps), let it boot then go back and flash mods.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Flomaster:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

I'm not sure what LMT is, but that full screen apk is great. Doing exactly what I want. I use nova launcher and it would take a miracle to get me to switch. I can enable our disable expanded desktop as I wish to get my notifications

sent from my G-nex via Tapacrap
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Frixtion:
LMT is awesome it has many features and PIE is one its not on the playstore. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1330150

Make sure you disable full screen toggle if you do a factory data reset
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jacobxtyler:
I did, ill go back in and make a nandroid backup and try it then. thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Flomaster:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Wow it's pretty complicated. But [i think I can figure it out.

Edit : I actually like this combo very much

LMT + full screen app = winning

sent from my G-nex via Tapacrap
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lightsout:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Thanks everyone for your responses to my quick tiles question. I'll give more info next time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crackers8199:
Re: [ROM] [AOSP] MMuzzyROM for Toro - Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - JDQ39

Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the thread...but is there a way to turn off how the quick settings comes if you pull down from the right side of the screen? I'd rather use the two finger approach...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kbohinski:
Thanks, It seems to be the outage.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] willyjay:
How'd it go?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jacobxtyler:
Perfectly! Thanks for the help and the mod's, you guys are great!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] glebonator:
Thanks for the rom, everything works well out of the box except I had to figure out FB picture sync (this could be built in) and install the Exchange no-pin mod.

Any available mods to display battery as actual %?

One complaint is the Quick Settings Mod. It's extremely non-intuitive, buggy and lacking in options.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mmuzzy:
You're welcome, I think. ;)

As for the FB picture sync that it could be built in, sure it could... but it won't. It isn't a stock AOSP behavior and I don't really see it as a must have. Most of the things I baked in are because I thought they fixed an oversight of stock and a Facebook integration feature isn't one of them.

The MODs available such as the battery MODs are listed in OP and are provided by adbFreedom and Willyjay (thanks guys).

Your views about the Quick Setting's MOD would be more helpful in the thread for it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1999125 . Suggestions and bug observations would assist Kevdliu more.