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[Off-topic] FromiOSToAndroid:
Hello everyone. I am looking to build a gaming system that plays most newer games in medium to high settings.

I already have Windows 7 Ultimate(From my good friend as a birthday gift) and I have all other peripherals needed(Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor).

I would be very grateful if you could recommend me a good PC under $700, and if you want to know where it is going to be shipped, it will be around Burnaby, BC Canada around the postal code V5G 1L7.

EDIT: I have chosen the processor, an Intel Core i7 950. And the Mobo is an Asus P6X58D-E. And 8GB of RAM. Total till now comes to $300. Someone posted an ad on cl, getting it from him.

Please mention other parts for the build.
[Off-topic] Allanitomwesh:
Gtx 570 is a good value card.

Recycle your storage and DVD drive and even case(if well vented) and wifi card,sound card.

You should need a stronger power supply,I like seasonic x series,but any 750w bronze could leave room for future upgrades like sli and surround sound.
[Off-topic] K.A.:
the kind of i7 is what i need opinions on..i dont really have much knowledge of the diff. processors and thus i need help choosing one..i just outlined my wishlist i need help detailing it..

ok, so 690 out of the question..i'd require a graphics card for playing newer games on medium settings at the least..and yes i dont prefer AMD but if any suggestions, i'll check them out too..
[Off-topic] atticus182:
Please don't buy an i7 if you're not going to use some very specific and intensive software that uses hyperthreading. An i5 will do the job perfectly and since your budget is around 700, I'd reccommend a i5 2500K which is awesome for gaming! For you graphics card I'd wait for the GeForce 660Ti, it has the latest GK104 Kepler GPU, which will be close to the performance of the GTX670 but alot cheaper. PSU should be around 500-750W max, that is way enough but pick a good brand with low ripple values and high efficiency. For Mobo I'd reccommend the Z77 series, I happen to know that Gigabyte has a very nice one that fits your budget perfectly. If you need any more advice, please say so :)

Edit: You won't need a dedicated sound card if you're not an audiophile. The standard Realtek codecs on the latest Z77 mobo's are just great, even if you are picky about your music like me!
[Off-topic] Tuqano:
here my pc:

I had it since 1 week, the only thing i know is that it's powerfull....it makes coffè and walk my dog.....:laugh::silly:
[Off-topic] casstifer:
OS - MS Windows 7 x64

CPU - Intel Core i5 M 480

RAM - 4GB DDR3

MB - Dell 0FCVWR

GPU - ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650
[Off-topic] MaBlo:
You should rather get the GTX 670 like me. Close to the 680 in performance and much better price/performance ratio than the new AMD cards.

Edit: Or if you're happy with medium(more like high) you should check out the 6870, great value now that the 7000 series is out. Or the 560 ti.
[Off-topic] K.A.:
i heard newer cards require a SMPS(power supplier) upgrade cuz they overheat and the system restarts while playing high graphics games like GTA 4...

No such problems with the GTX 670?
[Off-topic] MaBlo:
Not quite sure what you mean, never heard about such problems. You mean power supply(psu)? Shouldn't be a problem if the psu is adequate and you have decent cooling/ventilation. But as I said the 670 might be overkill if you're happy with medium.
[Off-topic] K.A.:
Yup the PSU..here we call it the SMPS...oh okay thanks..

I said medium AT LEAST. obviously i'd want one which had the power to run it on high graphics but medium is the threshold...
[Off-topic] MaBlo:
Okay it depends on your budget. Gtx 560 ti and HD 6870 should play most games at high at least. The 670 should max most games out at 1080p. Also don't get the 580 the other guy suggested, it's less powerful and more expensive than the 670.
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Why would anyone use ebooks?

I feel reading is something that should be done on paper.

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[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Ok now you've just discredited everything you've said by talking nonsense.
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Now you're just being crazy.

Just because you don't do something doesn't mean other people shouldn't.

You do realize you can use a controller on any PC?

Xbox controller + usb cable

But controllers are only better for vehicle control like racing, flight simulator, etc.

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[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
I find controllers to be 10x better for FPS. And I have a bunch of MLG friends who agree with me. But like you said, everyone has their opinions. Obviously mine isnt favored in this computer loving thread.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Gaming PC - Plays games. Also has a usb port for things like controllers. VS. Console - Plays games and has a controller.

TIE.

Gaming PC - Does things besides games. VS Console - Plays dvd's and maybe blu-ray's.

Pretty obvious.
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
You didn't say controllers are better, you said consoles are better. Even though you can use a controller on any PC.

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The advantages of consoles would be inexpensive, and less drm on most games.

So use what fits you best.

But don't go around saying "why would someone use - - - -".

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[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Here's your gaming desktop...
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
I wish they were using Samsung 830 instead of Crucial M4 lol
[Off-topic] boborone:
I prefer controllers period for all gaming. I hate the xbox controller, think the ps controller is the greatest ever. And I prefer console. Doesn't mean I marginalize and degrade the idea of computer gaming.

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[Off-topic] :
Here are my specs:

System Board: Gigabyte 990F XA-UD3

CPU: AMD Bulldozer @ 3.4Ghz oc to 4.0Ghz

Antec 750W

Ram: Corsair Vengeance 8Gb DDR3 1600Mhz

Antec Kuhler 920

Dual Monitors Acer 22"

Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 1gb

My memory defaults to 1333Mhz. I can't for the life of me get them to go to their default 1600Mhz. Anyone know why this can't be done?
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Ps as in playstation? OMG. Compared to xbox that is horrible. It doesnt fit in your hand at all, makes no sense.
[Off-topic] boborone:
Also, I don't game at all. Very very little. What I do use it for is 3D modeling and rendering.
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
"doesn't fit in your hand"

How would you know what fits in boborone's hand?

Different people have different hands.

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[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Its just built to not fit in a humans hand, unlike the xbox is an exact hold, this one just holds awkward. Ands not just my opinion, its console gamers opinions, very popular infact. Love how everyone bashes on my opinions LOL.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Because one thumb is significantly longer than the other. That's the only explanation for the joysticks not being lined up evenly if the XBOX controller is deigned for the human hand.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Both joysticks are the same distance away, its how you hold your hand, fool
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
I never bashed your opinion.

I simply said people have different hands, so they use different controllers.

You're the one bashing other people's opinions and calling them "fools".

Sent from my HTC Rezound
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Are you kidding me?
[Off-topic] boborone:
You bash when you say things like "makes no sense" and marginalize what others think. In fact I know more people who don't like the xbox controllers but prefer xbox gaming for online.

imo, why would I want my analog sticks on different angles and spots on the controller. What do you mean it doesn't fit in your hand? You can hold a broom, you can hold the ps controller. There is a reason the military and civilian contractors use ps based controllers for the unmanned vehicles. It's a natural style to hold. It took how many itterations of the xbox controllers before the 360? When they finally got one that felt right. And guess what.....it's like a ps with more ergo. Hmmmm..........
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
LMFAO

(haven't seen an xbox controller for a while)

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[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
xbox controller works fine for me.... unless im losing...
[Off-topic] boborone:
That.

And really man, your opinion tends to not matter any more when you don't care about others and bash their opinions. Pretty much all the guys here are pc people, but did they bash you when you said something about apple? Nope, Did they bash me when I said I wanted an air, nope. All about how you come across. And you come across like a **** who doesn't know sht.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
I want to expand on this. Look at your keyboard, something with decades of practical use to refine it's layout. Is F?

A. Above J.

B. Below J.

C. Lined up with J

D. I'm just a troll.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Im confused. ANd theres nothing wrong with that pic lol, Right thumb is slanted left, left thumb is up. More easier to use, specially for fps games. And I dont bash people who play pc or anything, I just dont see a point in it. But hey if you spend 2000 on a gaming computer so U can enjoy 100 fps on beastly games while my xbox only gets me 60, thats awesome :P
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Yup, definitely not bashing.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
start a console thread ok? and stop asking so many questions about computers only to bash what folks say...
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
I say fool for everything? Calm down boss
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
ok fool
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Ive never bashed what folks say about computers, I take advice, and then when I get stupid advice and then have trolls like you post stupid 6000 computers its a waste of time.

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Lol your funny
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
ahhh... now i understand... ur only 18... should we request a kiddie section?
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Age dropping? OK. Your like 35.. go get a life
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
troll? am i not the one who spent 2 hours on gtalk helping and explaining things? wow...
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
You took an hour to help me and an hour to show off your computer and speeds. And you still troll this thread.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
I was mobile the whole time... how could I have done that? I'd say I'm about done talking with you... To start with, you have zero computer intellect... 2nd, you can't even take a joke when I post high end computers... 3rd... you argue for pages about console controllers... make your own choice on what you buy... but I doubt you'll get much more help from this thread... peace out...
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Sigh, this took a while to find.

Never bashing, eh?

(This is from like page 30)
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
I bashed linux, But its just an opinion. NO one likes opinions here that are against theres I have found out already lmao.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Did you base that observation on your posts alone?
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
I don't even have to say anything of my own; I can just feed your own words back to you.

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If you read through those old posts again, notice no one was bashing you for using Windows.

Only you were bashing Linux users.

And then you claim that you were bashed.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
I get yelled at all the time for talking about windows and apple. But I dont really care, realize this isnt the thread to ask questions, no one likes to answer and likes to give their own input.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Not to mention doesn't have a single clue how a computer operates other than clicking the blue E icon...
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Can you not read?

No one was bashing you for using Windows.

No one was bashing you for talking about Windows and Apple.

You have asked many questions in this thread, and you have been thoughtfully answered many times.

Yet you claim people are "bashing you".
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
I havent claimed people bashed me, Im claiming I got yelled at. "Why go apple, why do this, why do that". Why do you care so much.. lol
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
I'm currently bashing... I was called a troll for spending 2 hours of my time explaining the intricacies of how the hardware works, and posted a couple high end computer to joke around... but it's ok...
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Did I call you a troll for explaining **** to me? No. I called you a troll because you post useless stuff in this thread.
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
You asked a question, people answered with their opinion.

If people recommending against Apple isn't OK with you, don't ask the question.

Look, no one here (well most people here) has a problem with answering questions if you ask politely.

When you go around saying "Linux is ugly as ****", it's pretty obvious what their reactions are going to be.
[Off-topic] veeman:
OK stop fighting and get back on topic.

Sent from my Nexus 7

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What do you guys think about the Raspberry Pi? I'm thinking of getting one.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
You would probably be best purchasing one of these:
[Off-topic] FrostyF7:
How often do I need to replace the violent for my hydra h60?
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
violent?
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
I hear the Rasperry Pi is awesome (don't have it myself), but there are also other similarly priced alternatives.

Rasperry Pi is obviously the most well known.
[Off-topic] FrostyF7:
Sorry hydro h60 my bad :)
[Off-topic] jmindset:
Yeah fanboyism is annoying.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Sorry I'm not familiar with liquid cooling... someone else will have to chime in...
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Isn't funny the second time...

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[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
me?

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Yea I know... but I don't take kindly to being called a troll when I went above and beyond to help him...
[Off-topic] jmindset:
Not anyone here specifically. In general.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Gotcha....

I try my best to give unbiased help to people with computer questions... but sometimes people don't agree... it's a typical thing on the internet...
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
I didn't take kindly to reading you being called a troll, and I just lurk this thread for the knowledge.

Incidentally, I feel more comfortable with an Xbox 360 controller in my hands than a ps. All preference.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Thanks man... I can't get used to a PS controller... nice fit, but I'm always looking down to find the button I need... and you gotta admit, it's be sweet to own one of those computers that cost what a car does...
[Off-topic] jmindset:
I understand. No problem
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Which part on the H60?

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[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
I have 3 computers, and use my phone for everything because they all suck. I'd be happy with a new $400 tower, lol.

1: AMD Duron 1.6 I built in 2003

2: iMac, circa 2009, with major video problems (hardware issue)

3: 2008 Windows Vista Craptop, it's Toshiba Satellite, don't remember specs.

On controllers, I just find the ps too small for my liking, and the triggers on 360 are marvellous, from shooters to racing.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
Someone agrees ;)
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
So tempted to install Windows 8 the HP Envy 4t...... But don't have anything to clone the damn hard drive so that I can just restore it back to original state without reformatting...
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
$155 for 256gb Samsung 830 SSD.. so tempting.. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0077CR66A/ <-One day only or before it's out of stock.

Don't need that much storage though :S
[Off-topic] MaBlo:
Corsair H60? I think that's a closed loop, those are maintenance free so you shouldn't need to replace the coolant.

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You're lucky, that's about the price of the 128gb version here in Norway. Great SSD, I have it:)
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
I have the 128gb also but it's in the MacBook Pro. Want to get another for my new laptop (HP Envy 4t). I'm sure 128gb is more than enough for me as my MacBook Pro is dual booting (~60gb per OS) and still have about 30gb free on each OS. Definitely a great SSD.
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Can someone explain me how water cooling works?

I thought all the water coolers required high maintenance...the last thing i want is a LEAK!!:eek::eek:

Also aren't most/all of the water coolers available in the market closed loops? What's the other kind, something custom?

I prefer Noctua D14 but it's all out of stock here..I would go for a Corsair water cooler but i fear the leaks and maintenance.
[Off-topic] MaBlo:
Do you know how the cooling system in a car works? It's pretty similar. You have fan(s) blowing air on a radiator and a pump circulating the coolant between the radiator and the block mounted on the CPU. Most systems today are completely closed and maintenance free, but you have some systems, usually more expensive and custom, that are open. I think you need the air and refill these once in a while.

Here is a open system:

http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=649521#extra
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Thanks, i get the idea...also i guess the fans can be reversed to get it blow air the other way, not sure which is more effective though.

Lets just say, if i buy a corsair h60 or 100 how long will it work perfectly?

Maintenance free is fine but that does not guarantee its leak proof now, does it?
[Off-topic] MaBlo:
I have no idea, I've never used one. I'm not to happy about the possibility of leaks in my computer myself to be honest, but I guess its a pretty slim chance with companies like Corsair or Antech.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
I know the vizio cant be upgraded, but our Envys can? SSD and Ram? I would love to beef it up to 8gb, and if I could put a bigger ssd in, that would be awesome. Without any modding though, im not smart enough for that.
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
Hard Drive and RAM can be swapped on almost all laptops. It's just the fact if you're comfortable opening up the laptop or not and unscrewing some screws.

HP Envy 4t supports up to 16gb RAM. The hard drive needs to be 7mm. You might be thinking about swapping mSATA which HP Envy 4-1030us comes with a 32gb mSATA for cache. You can swap it out and make it as a boot drive, but complicated. Swapping the original hard drive (500gb) with an SSD shouldn't be too hard as long as you have the recovery disc/flash drive. It should be able to detect and install it onto the new hard drive.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Just need a USB to SATA cord... one came with my SSD... along with Norton Ghost... I'd promised it to Tony, but if he doesnt want it, it's yours..
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
^^I'm confused..
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
did you say something about needing to clone the drive?

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Also doesn;t windows have the option to make restore DVDs?
[Off-topic] shimp208:
Yes Windows has the option to make restore CD/DVD I believe this option is found in control panel under backup and restore options.

If your looking for a good disk cloning utility check out Acronis True Image or the free Clonezilla live CD that has great disk cloning tools.
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
I never said anything about cloning hard drive as I would never recommend cloning if you're installing a SSD.

HP have a recovery software that you can create either restore disc or restore usb flash drive but might fail. Wasn't successful for me due to missing MBR and bad restoration.

Windows should have one also but never used it.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
my bad then... posting after waking...
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
Anyone know how to clone a hard drive? Specifically, a Mac OS X that is dual booting with Windows 7. I wanted to copy both OS (OS X + Windows 7) from my SSD back to the original Hard Drive that it came with. Just so I can use the SSD I already have in the HP Envy instead of having to buy a new SSD since I don't want to waste too much money.
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
Gnu parted in any Linux distro can probably do it.

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[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Norton ghost and a USB to SATA cord...
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
Need to find some instructions then.. >_< Going to try to do it over the weekend.

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Samsung did give me a disc for Norton Ghost.. but that doesn't work for Mac apparently. The instruction that came with Samsung 830 was telling you to use Time Machine I think

edit: I never was able to get Norton Ghost to work anyways.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Maybe this?

http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Hardware/Ghost-for-Linux-53.shtml
[Off-topic] GuyInTheCorner:
No sure if trolling or just taking the piss... xD

Sent from PACman'd Desire HD
[Off-topic] runtohell121:
Hmm.. guess I will try when I have a chance. Might actually consider just leaving OS X on the MBP since I do have a Windows laptop now ;)
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
this is old news that would be best not to be brought back up... muffstuff called me a troll depsite countless hours of helping him... so i trolled him...
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
I thought it was pretty obvious that it as a joke. I laughed. I'm going to go tell my wife that's what I'm buying myself for Christmas. I'll be back when the swelling goes down.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
its got 3 680m 4gb graphics cards LOL.... and 4 512GB ssd and a desktop class i7 overcloked...
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
Self: y u no check for swypo before posting?!?

Swimming should have been swelling.
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
My laptop has 4gb of ram, I heard that if you want to do best with ram, match the sticks, like 4gb and 4gb for 8. But I dont think I need 8gb and only 6gb, so would a 4gb + 2gb stick work well, or should I pay the extra 10$ for a 4gb stick?
[Off-topic] wlmeng11:
It's always safest to have identical RAM.

Note that means same clock, latencies, etc.

Crucial has a tool that recommends compatible RAM:

http://www.crucial.com/systemscanner/
[Off-topic] veeman:
Pay the extra 10. It's always better to have more.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Off-topic] TheMuffStuff:
yeah im on crucial, all I use. I would love to only spend 10$ to have an overall 6gb of ram, but like I said I heard mis matching 2 diff gb's isnt good.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Go with 8gb...
[Off-topic] roofrider:
I might be wrong but i think for dual channel mode to be fully utilized u'll need a pair of matching sticks.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
Yup...same speed too, not just capacity.

Sent from your mom.
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Hey u have a cool Antec liquid cooler right, can u take a look at my previous couple of posts?

Here and here, I'm just concerned about the leaks.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
Honestly, with those closed systems, leaks are almost guaranteed not to happen.

In fact, I cut mine all open, switched out to thicker clear tubing and added a reservior about a year ago. Never a leak. BUT...

You mentioned the Noctua nd14. That will perform as good, if not slightly better than those closed loop systems, depending on the airflow in your PC. If you live where its warm most of the time, the water cooler may be a better choice.

Sent from your mom.
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Thanks, depends on the availability..i think the c14 or something is available i'll check, but by the time i make the move and buy i hope the d14 will be back. My place is not that warm really, i most probably will be going with the CM haf 912 case, i think d14 fits in it.

A lot of other cooler master stuffs are available though, like the hyper 212.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
The Hyper212 is what I initially bought, before I reconsidered. It's pretty good, and for the price, it's hard to beat. I wish you were in the US, I'd sell you mine, it's practically brand new.
[Off-topic] Allanitomwesh:
Finally, someone who loveth the PlayStation controller. My buddies don't get me either.

As for a controller beating a mouse in fps,bull****. Wiggle a mouse on your PC. They are lethal for successive headshots,in the right hands.
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Lol thanks..I wish i could use newegg, it just seems so damn convenient.