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[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Serious_Beans:
Jelly Bean is way smoother and faster than ICS for sure BUTTTT GS3's will be even faster when we get CM10 so I am not really too upset. Source was released today so we should have some roms within a week or two(optimistically).

It's really at your discretion. Basically Nexus is software, it's the latest and greatest and most natural google experience. You get a non nexus device, it's all about the latest hardware, better Processor, more/faster ram, better gpu, better screen, stuff like that.

So you want software and wait another year for better hardware or you want hardware and wait a few weeks-months after source is released to get the latest (buggy somewhat to a certain point) software.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Rszafraniec93:
I agree with you I had the GNex and it's a great phone, very fast for every thing. Except for gaming. Sure it runs 2D games good but when I got to the 3D games like Shadowgun and such the hardware starts showing its age.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] brushrop03:
Actually I played with my friends GNex w/Jellybean for a hour or so this weekend and I didn't find it to be any faster than my GS3. Slower at doing intensive stuff. Mind you I running a tweaked Kernel, JB Transition Mod, and Nova Launcher (which is waaaayyy faster than Touchwiz launcher).

If the new GNex comes with Key Lime Pie this year, i'd probably jump all over that. I just don't think its worth buying a GNex now over the GS3 or One X.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] outz:
I'm on the fence. My friend let me borrow a nexus running jb he got at Google io, and my s3 is powered off. I'm debating returning the s3. I really enjoy the vanilla experience. I'm not a very big phone gamer.

I can never make up my mind :-)
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] bigant262:
Honestly, if you can wait and just run ICS for about a month to two months, we should be getting some stable JB roms by then.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] madmanepic:
I am sure the sgs3 is better then the gnex.

But I must say I love my gnex.

I use to have a sgs2 and thought it was great. Even after my gnex came I was a little disappointed. But now after a week of rocking the gnex i can say wow what a difference. I use to rom my sgs2, and run the latest buggy roms. But it always felt forced. The devs are great and without them android wouldn't be what it is today.

But the nexus experience is awesome. With jelly coming soon(offical ota) and the promise of klp I will rock this phone until next google I/o.

Granted my sgs2 was a cdma phone so it was a little behind the the gsm counterparts. And I love what Samsung does, but they are a little slow with updates or releases.

Another thing I would like to point out is the gnex(ics), in my hand, which is as smooth if not smoother then your sgs3 is old. I mean there has been 2 if not 3 new processors out since its release. I am proud it is still competing with the newest hardware.

There are some things I wish were better, camera to name one. But still this thing is smooth and sips battery compared to my sgs2 with a Rom of ics.

As far as 3d games go, I don't game on my phone, that's what tablets are for.

Oh and this thing was only $350 sans contact. Now I only pay $45 a month for unlimited everything.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Snook321:
Just wait until the SIII gets Jelly Bean... the comparisons will stop
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Smac7:
sure we'll have to wait, but since we all have top-tier phones, we should all get decent update support from samsung. I'm sure this was part of the reason to release one model in the us (and almost the same model overseas). I prefer better hardware over quicker updates. Besides once cm10 gets going on our devices, it won't matter much. CM10 gs3 vs cm10 gnex, the gs3 will win in a landslide.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] djricekcn:
Jelly Bean is that much better, you have to try it out. It is so great that it made me think / choose between the two phones for a while
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] mlin:
After owning the nexus s I realized that I greatly prefer the vanilla android experience. However, the lack of quality in the gnex camera is what led me to choose the sgs3 instead.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Maverick777:
The S III will get JB or CM10 sooner than later with all the dev support for it. Once that happens, it won't even be a contest.

Even with the wait, lets look at these major advantages for the S III.

***Expandable memory*** (this is HUGE)

2gb of ram vs 1gb

Superior GPU

Bigger battery

Yes, since the S III isn't a Nexus device we won't always get the latest and greatest first. But given the hardware and dev support, I wouldn't hesitate to get the S III over the Nexus again.

It'll be a different story once the next Nexus comes out, but that won't be for awhile. I thought about waiting, but the current GSM Nexus didn't come out until April. I don't think the next unlocked GSM Nexus will come out until early 2013 which is a long time from now. I'd rather enjoy my S III and wait for CM10 and enjoy the phone here and now.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] kirdroid:
International sgs3 + official cm = win ... Nothing beats that combo.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] jimmyhook:
I have yet to meet a 3D game that lags on my GNex. Come to think of it, I can't think of any apps an S3 can run that I can't. BTW, Jellybean is awesome :)
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] mysterioustko:
The Galaxy Nexus was released November of last year (I bought the GSM unlocked when it came out). The next Nexus will most likely be released 4th quarter of this year. That said, I initially told myself I'd wait until the next Nexus to buy another phone, but the GS3 was a little too tempting so I made the leap. I still have my Nexus though, but I'll probably be selling it this week, and pre-ordering the Nexus 7.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Screaming Ball Sweat:
They're starting p're orders soon?! Will they release on T-MOBILE ?
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Wjcorner:
The nexus 7 won't have carrier branded versions
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] busties:
Wow. I don't know what to say.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] brushrop03:
I used JB for a hour or two on my friend's GNex. It was nice. Huge improvement over Gnex with ICS. But with the custom kernels and JB Mods in these forums, I couldn't say it is worth buying over the GS3. THe next Gnex...different story.

I'd say just wait until the new one. You're wasting money buying the current GNex with the new one coming out this year. Wait for CM9 port.

Yeah hardware is way better. Not just camera but screen also. Expandable storage

Yup. No point getting current GNex.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] droidx1978z4:
I've had the GNex for a while now and I wasn't expecting to be as impressed with the S3 as I have been, during the short period of time that I have had it.

Most everybody knows the strong and weak points of the GNex by now, so I'm just going list the areas where I think the s3 really outclasses it. First off battery life, battery life, battery life! Yeah I said that three times. The reason is because I literally get about three times the battery length that I got with the GNex, with essentially the same size battery. I don't get it at all but I am getting crazy battery life, even with the screen cranked up to about 75% brightness, when I used to leave the GNex on auto brightness. This alone is enough of an advantage to recommend the S3. On top of this the S3 also has a considerably better processor, an sd card slot, better build quality, much better camera, much better speakers, and seems to get a better signal as well.

I love the GNex for many reasons, I don't plan on selling it as I will probably still activate it from time to time, but I don't think that there is any question about which is a better everyday phone. I even like a lot of the features of touchwiz, the overall look of the UI is pretty much hideous in my opinion though. I hope to be able to run a touchwiz based rom that is themed like aosp, with on screen buttons some time in the near future. I think that I could be thoroughly satisfied with that for a long time.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] droidstyle:
The only advantage the gnex has is the fact its unlocked...comparing aosp to touchwiz is not apples to apples. Replace touchwiz launcher with hollo or nova and you will get clued in on how the gs3 is going rape the gnex with aosp.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] PeterGuru:
No LTE ... forget it!

I also have the International S3, and it's been sitting in my drawer for two weeks.

Basically, no LTE, forget it!

Peter
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] skyhigh2004:
As nice as LTE is speed wise with a 5gb throttling cap I would run out of data in two days with any mobile data plan so LTE speeds are completely irrelevant to me.

Sent from one of my Galaxies
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] PeterGuru:
Please educate me ...

I simply cannot understand why people use more data on LTE than on another type of network. It's like the old saying, "What weighs more, a pound of feathers, or a pound of lead?"

Data is data! Having LTE does not use more data, unless, that is, if YOU use more, and who's fault is that?

I consistently use about 2-3GB per month, even though I have a 10GB plan, and whether I was using 3G or H+ or LTE, it's always been about 2-3GB per month. My habits haven't changed. The only difference is that, when I'm downloading a 500MB-1GB file, it takes just a few minutes rather than a few hours.

Peter

Addendum: Even more important is the fact that I regularly UPLOAD files that are 500MB to 1GB (sometimes even 2GB), and as we all know, trying to do this on anything but LTE, even on high-speed Wifi, can take many, many hours, whereas, it takes only minutes with LTE.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] jgalan14:
Well the thing is people have more times to do wtv they want so thy decide to use the web more often , I think LTE is great but the carriers are gonna keep going nuts with those prices
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] androholic:
Well, I say the best solution is buy both if your not on a cdma network, which I never would be! At 349 for the Gnex, there's not much reason to not buy it Imo. I won't jump on the next nexus right away unless Google stays @ the 400 mark. I'll continue to enjoy the vanilla experience on my Gnex & with until it's 4-5 months old and drops to the same price its at now. I always have a top of the line carrier phone like the gs3 or One X, and I'll keep buying the Nexus devices off contract if Google keeps the pricing so low like they have. It may be higher priced at launch, but I think it's worth waiting for Google to drop the price & then pick it up.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] lowg:
Software can always be changed, hardware can not.

Especially for someone who wanted to get the best value in keeping my unlimited data for 2 more years, the GS3 was a no brainer.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] falconeight:
I can't tell the difference in the performance of my gnex and my s3. The only difference is that my s3's touchwiz looks like **** and it's battery lasts way longer.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] marlonmrn:
I have concreted an idea, my next phone will be a google's...

I just dont take a nexus right now because poor hardware...

When google launch a new phone, with hardware like s3,i will purchase of course...
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] PeterGuru:
Darn, I wish I knew how to "concrete" an idea ...

Can you educate me? How does one "concrete" an idea?

;)

Peter
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] eduardmc:
i have both, gnex and GS3 in my hand. Just sold my Gnex and shipping it out today. Gnex running jb is nice and smooth, i actually bought the GS3 for release and a few member said to give it a tried since i didnt want to open the box. I was run thinking the GS3 was going to be a let down compare to jb. GS3 stuck move just has good has JB, i could only imaging running JB in GS3. what i don't like about the Gnex is the on screen button taking alot of real state screen. The gnex look so much smaller in person when compare both. The screen in the GS3 is much better, i have to put my Gnex to 75% to get the same level of brighness i get in my GS3 at 25%. plus is sharper. The GS3 is sexier slimier, faster, more ram, better cpu/gpu.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] outz:
after reading some of the responses, i think you guys are right. ill definitely wait for the next nexus and keep the s3. going to give the google io jb nexus back to my buddy, and deal with touchwiz for a while longer.

thanks for helping my indecisiveness!
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] dannieloco:
Well said.. thank man. GS3 is better buy imo
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] Gadgetz:
It's called an opinion and everyone has one, don't lose any sleep over it.
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] skyhigh2004:
I simply can't understand how people can only use 2-3gb of mobile data in a month. I was talking about how LTE will use your data faster not necessarily make you use more data all together. I usually go through about 8-15gb of data on my phone a month depending on what I do. Whether it was LTE or HSPA+ a mobile data plan is still not enough for me. A 15/5 internet connection with wifi solves all my problems. My only gripe with LTE is the horrible battery life. My coworker gets 4.5-6 hours total time with maybe 2hrs screen on time with his rezound. I get 18+hrs total time and 4+ hrs screen on time with my T-Mobile GSIII.

Sent from one of my Galaxies
[Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)] ingenious247:
Why do you have to "deal with touchwiz"?

Just install Apex Launcher (paid version is best) and Wala! You've got the same look at the Galaxy Nexus, should you desire.. with more functionality I might add. Minus Google Now or whatever, of course..
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Jsick:
Has anyone tried the new cases from Monoprice.com? They generally have good quality products for a good price so was hoping to hear some reviews on their S3 cases.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] itsjusttim:
Mine come in tomorrow morning. I'll update then
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kronium:
No, but I'm anxiously awaiting their new MHL adapters.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Randomacts:
Monoprice is working on 11pin MHL cables? Nice! I love monoprice for cables.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Drift King:
I'm waiting for their MHL cables as well... No one can beat their prices for cables and I have yet to have any of them fail on me.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] XblackdemonX:
is that it ?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8805&seq=1&format=2
[Galaxy S III Accessories] tahngarth:
That's the 5 pin cable. I actually just got one, and am now waiting for the 5 to 11 pin adapter to arrive. They've finally started popping up on amazon and ebay.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Imatoasta:
Monoprice is awesome. I use them for tons of stuff and their support is 2nd to none. If you end up not liking it they will refund your money and sometimes let you keep the product anyways.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] bozs13:
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[Galaxy S III Accessories] itsjusttim:
Sorry for the late reply. The Monoprice tpu cases are thin.. the cutouts are great.

They just don't compare to diztronic tpu. If you have any other questions ask anytime.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] acrodex:
So the case is thinner than diztronic one? Does it have a matt back?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] itsjusttim:
It's thinner and is not matte black.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] BYOBret:
Hybrid TPU

Just got the hybrid hard plastic/TPU case from monoprice. The hard back is charcoal gray that is semi transparent. I can barely make out the Galaxy S III logo through the case. The edge is all black TPU, the cut outs for everything is just about perfect. I don't like that the power button and volume rocker are covered. I like to feel the actual buttons click, but they still function fine. Overall, pretty dang good for the price. :good:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] jeffmik:
I bought both the Aircase Aluminum + Polycarbonate Case for Samsung Galaxy SIII - Black and the TPU Case for Samsung Galaxy SIII -White.

The aluminum/polycarb case is very high quality and fits perfectly. It looks very similar to the Casemate Barely There Aluminum and regular price is under $6. My only complaint is that its a bit slippery on the sides.

The TPU case is exactly as advertised - cut perfectly for the phone and fits well. Under $4.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] yuugotserved:
ok so we'll need monoprice's 11pin to 5 pin adapter + this http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...d=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=1#largeimage for it to work on HDTV?

which is the same as

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EPL-FU10BEBSTD

+

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EPL-3FHUBEGSTA

?

sorry im still new to this :P
[Galaxy S III Accessories] P0ll0L0c0:
You were on the right track. The 2nd Samsung item alone works with our phone (Galaxy S3). You only need the adapter (5 to 11 pin) when you're using the older, cheaper 5 pin MHL cables.

So you can either use the monoprice 11 to 5 pin adapter + the monoprice MHL, or you can use the one expensive Samsung cable.

To date - I'm using an MHL cable that I bought for $6 from EBAY many months ago, with a $10 5 to 11 pin Samsung adapter that I bought from Amazon. Works great, but I'm curious to see the monoprice prices for the 11 pin stuff.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] yuugotserved:
thanks for the clarification.. going to see what monoprice comes out with.. i would trust their products over any generic one from ebay any day imo. :good:
[Android] p011uX:
Most excellent! Thank you for the quick post after the source drop!
[Android] dastin1015:
You're quite welcome!
[Android] Peteragent5:
O.O This is new? I'm at the right time and at the right place...
[Android] brfield:
And what if we don't already have a working device tree? I want to try to get SOMETHING running on my T-Mo GS3, just to see how this all works and maybe contribute to the community.
[Android] dastin1015:
You have a device tree: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_i9300
[Android] brfield:
That's for the international, I am on the T-Mo version, aka the U.S.A variant.
[Android] dastin1015:
It would essentially be modifications of the international version with changed files to be for T-Mobile, but I don't know the specifics because I don't create device repos from scratch.
[Android] brfield:
Thanks for the help. I'll look into it later.
[Android] Supermaster34:
Can we use the ICS device tree for our device? If this is a stupid question feel free to tell me as I know very little about device trees

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[Android] dastin1015:
Initially yes, but things will have to be modified to make things work.

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[Android] cdesai:
Na, the US versions got a S4, and the international s3 has an exynos.

Totally different.

Also, might wanna move some stuff to spoliers, just to make scrolling easier.

And, using android-4.1.1_r1 branch for the init would be better than using jb-dev.
[Android] NineInchNails:
2nd page.. I take it.

E=MC420
[Android] _thalamus:
JBQ actually recommends building from the tag as opposed to the branch.

repo init -u https://android.googlesource.com/platform/manifest -b refs/tags/android-4.1.1_r1
repo sync

For people who have already done a repo init:

cd /path/to/AndroidTree
repo init -b refs/tags/android-4.1.1_r1
repo sync
[Android] 00hero00:
What Ubuntu Version are you working with?

I heard 10.04 should bring the best results, so I installed that one..

but before I had 12.04 and the experience there is a lot better.. Anyone compiling on 12.04 without problems?
[Android] ramdroid77:
is there anything wrong when just building from master?
[Android] thewadegeek:
I don't believe master is synced with JB...but I very well could be wrong on that.
[Android] pnda:
thanks a lot for this.

wich ubuntu is the best for this?
[Android] rohan32:
make otapackage help

So I've tried before to get an AOSP Rom working for my phone (the HTC One XL) but I kept getting this error when I try to do a make otapackage:

make: *** No rule to make target `otapackage'. Stop.

I'm getting that again for JB.

Any help?

---------- Post added at 09:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:57 AM ----------

10.04 is still what Google uses in-house so its probably the best.
[Android] Bytecode:
That's most likely because you did not do:

source build/envsetup.sh
[Android] djsubtronic:
Now it just died here

make: *** [out/target/product/ville/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/lights.ville_intermediates/LINKED/lights.ville.so] Error 1
[Android] dastin1015:
That isn't enough of an error. Post the entire error on pastebin
[Android] djsubtronic:
Here you go...http://pastebin.com/7YcEtYX8
[Android] podanimesh:
@dastin i have successfully built the rom.. it is not booting and no boot animation also......
[Android] dastin1015:
You will probably need to edit your ramdisk files to match the bootclasspath of Jellybean
[Android] CallMeVentus:
Looking at this:

/home/sukh/WORKING_DIRECTORY/prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/arm/arm-linux-androideabi-4.6/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-linux-androideabi/4.6.x-google/../../../../arm-linux-androideabi/bin/ld: out/target/product/ville/obj/EXECUTABLES/wpa_supplicant_intermediates/src/drivers/driver_nl80211.o: in function wpa_driver_nl80211_ops:driver_nl80211.c(.data.rel.ro.wpa_driver_nl80211_ops+0x198): error: undefined reference to 'wpa_driver_nl80211_driver_cmd'

Did you define 'wpa_driver_nl80211_driver_cmd' in your driver_nl80211.c ?
[Android] KevlarTheGreat:
Kernel Interaction

I'm not even sure what the best way to ask this question is..... I'm just trying to learn the build structure first. I don't understand the interaction between building the Kernel and Android.

From what I've read, I believe a kernel has to be built with the rest of the Android source. (that's my assumption, correct me if I'm wrong)

Why does it have to be compiled with the source?

What does the compiler do differently with the Libraries, Framework, etc, that depends on the kernel source?

If I were to compile ICS AOSP source targeted at "armv7-a-neon", flash it to my T-Mo GS3, then flash a T-Mo GS3 CM9 kernel onto it, would it work? (I assume not, but want to understand why...)

Why not?

Do some of the non-kernel portions of the ROM have architecture-specific code in them? If so, where does the compiler get the information that tells it how to compile for that specific architecture?

What are some of the major kernel differences, if any, between ICS and Jellybean?
[Android] podanimesh:
Can u help me out.....
[Android] dastin1015:
You may use a prebuilt kernel, or have the kernel built at compile time. In CM9 and CM10 the kernels must be built at compile time for the device to become official. It would work, everything may not work, but your kernel would work because CM is based off of AOSP.

Yes and your device repo has a BoardConfig.mk that tells the compiler what arch to build for and then as it runs through code different files have different checks using if statements and whatnot that determine what to do according to the arch that is being built.

Different bootclasspath for one, introduction of the init.usb.rc and init.trace.rc among other things. I'm not a kernel developer so I don't know.

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[Android] djsubtronic:
Haven't touched any of the source, I'm not sure how to define and what to do?
[Android] Trugglepunts:
I am not seeing an extract-files.sh file anywhere - am i missing something?

Will this be ok if i compile without having run this, do you think?
[Android] dastin1015:
It is going to be in your device repo. If not run you will not have the proprietary files from your phone, or the necessary blobs to build for your device and will run into numerous errors.

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[Android] podanimesh:
GETTING LOGD ERROR (not declared in this scope ) in the device files..
[Android] djsubtronic:
With regards to extracting proprietary files from the phone, does the phone have to be on stock ROM or CM9?