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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
I'm not looking to promote Apple. It's just that people assume you're either "for Android" or "an Apple fanboy". I just won't participate in Android circle-jerking and the immature mob-mentality that XDA users seem to have when it comes to expressing their dislike for Apple.

It only makes me further laugh when people get flustered at the sheer possibility that there might be someone out there who is a fan of Android but can respectfully criticize Apple without sounding like a six year-old who just learned how to use "bad words".
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Reno Skyy:
Lol ur better off at a iPhone forum seriously get the **** out of here already get ur self a Almighty iPhone lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
Okay. Any more grownup advice you have to give?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Reno Skyy:
Plenty Mr grown up quit acting better then every one else seriously u have nothing better to do
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
Oh, do tell me more, oh wise one. I hope I can be just like you someday. <3
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
Eh, whatever, I'm out of here. As usual, you guys are far more interested in tossing 'iturd' and 'f*** apple greedy **** lololol' at each other than you are having any remotely intelligent discussion about the merits of the two competitors.

Enjoy your circle-jerking.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mbaseball3:
Gah damn this thread turned to chit fast. Where's the discussion about voice actions vs siri? More like a bunch of girls calling each other out in here. Why don't you all take it outside and have a circle jerk?

Edit: lol didn't realise you beat me to it

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] huludical:
Dude complaining about people complaining about iPhone. Go get an iPhone. Lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KaoMinerva:
Should I give a **** if I disgust you? I sure as **** don't. You keep defending them when you know and we know they keep ****ing with us & I'm tired of it. Apple can't do anything except try to halt these phones... I'm tired of their bull****. I can't ****ing wait til the Crap Phone 5 hits and we see for ourselves the myth 200 bull**** non copied "whatever" features they've added. I call bull****. Look at their devices, nice, but a ****ing fad. You know a ****ing friend of mine said he wants an iphone just to get white girls. What a ****ing idiot, is that what the phone is all about? You see how brainwashed he is... **** disgusts me. I'm going to the Apple store tomorrow just to say **** you to the manager, almost talked my step sister into his bull**** until I saved her with the sgs3 on sprint... **** APPLE!

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] edub186:
At the end of the day. This just kicked the Apple fanboys in the face. They have nothing to run to,to say their phone is better. Every time I pull my Evo out they run to Siri. Now they cant. Did Microsoft or Palm claim the Iphone was copying off them? No. Apple wasn't the first with a touch screen, wasn't the first with apps and wasn't the first smartphone. They just marketed better and had a fan base already. Im sick of the whole phone war to be honest. And Apple is the reason it has gotten to this point. I don't like the idea of talking to my phone but im glad its making the fanboys mad.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
I'm going to have to agree. I got my gnex before the ban issue but I do know I have waited for this phone since they announced it. I had the ns4g and loved it. I had sprint send me email updates on the gnex. We Android people are justified in our options and voicing them. Unlike Apple, we Androidians and nexus users look forward to the the new devices. The only reason Apple is going after Samsung, HTC, Android, and any other company that dares to support them is because the competition is winning. Remember when iPhone was only for at&t..as if nobody else was privileged enough to use it unless you broke contract or it expired and you had to go to them? Shouldn't companies make it easier to purchase their product instead of snobbishly saying "if you want our stuff you have to come get it"? Now they have even released it to virgin mobile prepay! Wonder what that plan is going to cost!? The only reason they even extended carriers is because Android was whopping their asses! It used to be you couldn't jailbreak..now they have graciously allowed jailbreaking once contract is up. I know if I purchase a phone for $600 I better be able to do whatever the hell I want with it! Apple is a sore loser and grabbing anything they can get their hands on. I'm sure there are plenty of other companies using patents that they aren't going after because they don't pose a threat to whatever superior hierarchy Apple believes they are entitled to.

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pov1:
I have to say that was the sickest s==t I've ever seen on these forums period. I don't care if he's a 'developer',
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
Jellybean is the POO! I love it

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
Google was faster because Siri is like the Walmart self checkout..talks to much. Just do your job..and while your at it, how bout get your own search engine! Siri would drive me nuts, annoying.

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KaoMinerva:
I think Google now is very cool, but I may not use it. I had Iris on the 3D & rarely used it

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
I think it sounds promising. And with google, Samsung and Apple competing for the best it will only get better
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] woody296:
This is always a great place to come and read because people are so entertaining. Does anyone have any links to any apple forums so we\I can see if people come unglued at the first mention of android or google?. How about any part time shrinks out there, why is it "My stuff is superior\nicer\less evil than yours!"? If a person thinks he\she has the better product maybe try to act a little more intelligent rather than resort to grade school conversations...http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/search?q=define+intelligent&qpvt=intelligent&FORM=DTPDIA
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] a senile fungus:
You're absolutely right. Because those are a dime a dozen around here...

In fact, lets insult ALL the developers on xda-DEVELOPERS.com.... We're the users. We make up the site majority right?

I mean, its not like it might behoove us to "play nice" with these developers... Preposterous. What have they ever done for us???

/sarcasm

- I'm a fungi
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] power_tennis:
Wow. And you are a "senior member" ?? No wonder these forums are so shallow. Too many kids own this phone already.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] woody296:
Very smooth.... very classy.... you represent the community well......I'm sure the casual observer will be happy to join us and not afraid to post.:o
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] The-Captain:
The bickering needs to stop, if it continues this thread will be closed. No more, not one more post that is directed at someone. Stay on topic or it will be closed.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] woody296:
Ok it's about siri but it pertains other voice search apps as well. How not to "annoy" anyone. http://www.pcworld.com/article/245473/5_tips_for_using_apples_siri_without_annoying_people.html
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Well I find myself agreeing with you on this lol.

Imagine how it will be in two years when pretty much everyone has a smart phone with decent voice command. Tho this should help with that

http://www.ai.rug.nl/~lambert/projects/BCI/
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Quis89:
An educated argument will always trump a fan boys argument. Bravo.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KaoMinerva:
I apologize to LiquidSolstice, I was frustrated yesterday with the people at Apple. They tried to charge my sister full price for a 4s & said Apple is better than the Nexus. That upset me so bad that I flew to the store & raised hell. I then showed them all the Apple lawsuits & he acted blind, further pissing me off. I snatched her out of there & ordered her a SGS3. I may cancel & try to get her the international pure Google Nexus. Again, LiquidSolstice, I apologize for my behavior & its no excuse for it.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] woody296:
I will say the few times i have been to the apple store to try and get a family members device repaired\exchanged or whatever, they are so well trained that if you try to drag them aside and ask "ok so whats the real story on such n such" they never bend. Anywhere else there is always someone you can find who will tell you the real story behind a problem or that something is pure bs, but not these guys. I don't know if i should admire that or be shocked by it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
You are entitled to your opinion but I respectfully disagree. I say that out of respect for the mods.

they just warned people not to direct any comments to anyone. Sooo IM assuming I'm the fanboy your directing this at.

Arguing with you apple fans is like arguing with a scientologist.

And this is an HTC forum right?

Mods am I in the wrong place?? Is defending aosp and HTC on an Android and HTC forum a bannable offense?

Rude arrogant members slam our phone and yes some of the comments replying back were childish but mine certainly were not.

Apple gets our phones banned by a joke of a patent and then our forums are taken over by Apple fanboys.

Unbelievable.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KaoMinerva:
You must've forgotten what forum you're on. Let me refresh your memory, go to the 3d forums & say a certain developer makes the best k_r_n_ls and watch how fast you're banned. I won't speak on mods, but it's best to let it die & not dig deep because I've seen that NO MATTER HOW MUCH EVIDENCE you have, you'll still be banned.

Now, wasn't htc making htc speak? Will that be an alternative to google now ir will it be scrapped also?

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
http://mobile.cioinsight.com/c/a/Latest-News/Apple-Sued-for-Siri-Patent-Infringement-712559/

Well well well..look whose on a high horse

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] woody296:
Old news, just another lawsuit ....http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406739,00.asp
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
Dunno, was on Google..said was 3 hours old

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] woody296:
Sorry, i meant i heard something about it last week, but i grow so tired of all groups and the lawsuits it just gets really old.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
I feel ya on that one. I can't turn down an apple debate tho.

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KaoMinerva:
What debate? Google is actually innovative while the other company isn't

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
Fully agree

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] indiscriminant:
That's the broad stroke type of comment that LiquidSoltice was alluding too that is a bit too prevalent on the boards. I am no apple fan, quite the opposite and even have a healthy rivalry with my boss who is a die hard apple fan.

That said, broad strokes that completely ignore the benefits of the competition and their product is ignorant. There are many things that Google is still playing catch up on with Apple, and many things Apple is still playing catch up from on Google and others.

Apple has been very innovative, and yes very good at marketing too. To dismiss them as not being so shows that you have no objectivity.

They have definitely gotten carried away with patent trolling, but its not like they are the first and/or only ones doing it. They do have a right to protect their IP and in some cases should be (not saying all of it is legit). Any company would.

Google is very good at taking existing ideas and upgrading them, call it the 3M approach. Its not like they have not skirted the lines with other products/software/sectors (IE Oracle, search engine stuff, and others).
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Anthonicia:
This has been the most informative read. My mind is totally blown. I mean to think xda has circle jerks and I didn't know? Just wow!

Could someone tell me the times we have them? Do mods, devs, and regs all have different circles or can we intermingle?

So many new questions...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
After viewing the video comparison above, I do have to agree the products are very very similar. I just don't think they should have outright gone for the ban. Could have tried negotiations or multiple other tactics. A complete ban..? That's a bit out of hand

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Quis89:
I'm not an Apple fan. I'm a smartphone fan. I own the 4S, Galaxy Nexus and Evo LTE. I have no favortism or bias. I just feel as though his response to you was formed with facts where as yours wasnt. Yours was more Android Fan/Apple Hater rather than realist. Which is Ok. It's to be expected here just like when I engage and witness similar debates on Apple forums they completely ignore Android strengths and Apple faults. It's fun to watch and unfortunate at the same time.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Quis89:
Thank you. I like that there are members with reason still in existence.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
You know how Google Plus has those things they call "circles" that you can join...?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
I pointed out numerous things that were documented facts. Again i disagree with you.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Anthonicia:
Sorry, was just trying to make a joke more than imply anything. I see I must've failed at bringing a lighterside to this thread.

Wish tone of voice translated well to text. Maybe crapple can patent emotion and we can have some innovation?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
Sounds like the 3D forums were dramatic. Never had the pleasure of experiencing those forums.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Thanar:
I do love the speed and Sirilikeness of it all but that's not the feature that really gets me excited. It's the unasked for reminders. It'll give me notifications if heavy traffic in my commute and sports score without even searching. It's a beautiful thing.

Also, it was painful to see the guy in the video call it voice commands as if that was the name if it.

By the way, people who don't follow the GPL have no place in this forum so there's really no need to bring them up anymore.

Also if you guys want the app and are rooted there's a thread in xda for instructions if you're on an AOSP ROM. There's no voice actions or responses though since it seems to be tied to the jb kernel.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
This thread was a good read. I'm glad to see there are still people in this community that have some sense.

Android wouldn't be here without iOS, and iOS has been Android's competition, which has caused the OS to evolve more rapidly.

Even if iOS didn't exist and Android did, we wouldn't be near the level that we are now with anything. iOS was functional and pretty when all other mobile operating systems were clunky and unappealing.

Android wouldn't have evolved into what we have today without the existence of iOS, and I think it would do many people good to remember that.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
I don't think anyone is dismissing apple. That would be ignorant. the argument has more to do with their business practices and that Android top devices are still catching up. That to me is ridiculous.

And saying that apple is more customizable than Android?

My answer to that is someone is off their meds
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KaoMinerva:
Agreed here lol

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ahecht:
Seriously? They wouldn't give her a discount and then the salesman had the nerve to claim that their product was better than their competitor's equivalent product? How dare they!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
here is a great video comparing the two phones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMiY1kSTHZw&feature=relmfu
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mbaseball3:
I second this

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
How dare they do their job?!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mbaseball3:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1749045

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] `Ghost`:
this only on that phone or do we have htat on our evo 4g lte
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SquallLHeart:
it's for JB... our phones are ICS.

so.. no.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
I know I said I would leave this thread, but this post cracks me up so much that I simply cannot refrain. Show me the exact post in which you used documented facts to respond to my points, and I will send you $10 through PayPal instantly.

You never replied to any of my counter-arguments to your post. You ran away and chose to either change my words to be something else or just ignore them altogether.

My offer stands. $10 through PayPal, instantly, on proof that you actually properly replied to my points with documented evidence to support your points.

If you really are so confident that you did, it should not be difficult to find.

EDIT: And don't bother trying to edit your posts. I've taken screenshots of all of them.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
dude you have no argument. ios6 most highlighted features have been available on Android for some time. I mean come on a custom ringtone for the alarm?? And you had no answer for how they misrepresented 4g and siri.

And I'm arrogant by posting how clueless iPhone fans are? I guess the articles showing thousands of iPhone users posting ewww Android has instagram were just in my imagination.

iPhone users being portrayed as thoughtless brand whores is a very common and accepted fact by a lot tech people. name one argument you have made that stands up. Top Android phones are still catching up to apple? That's a joke. And I really don't think you know the platform that well. creating two ROM threads? no offense but your title was lightly given.

You want to go? We can go
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
Thanks for proving what I knew to be true. You had no evidence, no points, lied about having "documented facts" to back up your claims, and now you're coming at me with personal insults and idiotic anecdote.

I promised you $10 to quite literally put my money where your mouth is, and you could not do that.

By the way, I very much had an answer for the "4G" aspect, but in your blind rage and inability to read (due to you being "at the movies") you must have not seen it.

But please do continue with the personal attacks against me and other iPhone users. All you are doing is proving what I've known for the longest time; when it comes to XDA users and Apple, there is no rationality, there is only blind infantile hate.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
I don't remember you posting one reference to back up your lame arguments.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
That wasn't an attack.I'm questioning your knowledge of Android. You come across very arrogant and I'm calling you on it
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] funcrusher:
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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eg1122:
Seriously man, this icrap defense in an android forum AGAIN. The facts that fern mentioned are found all over the place. Just look at what ios 6 is bringing to the table and look at what android already offers. There are plenty of blogs, reviews, forums, etc with this info so why post it when a simple search will yield u the results. Here try THIS
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
Oh, I do, you're just unwilling to read or respond to it.

Yes, you stated this claim already. And because you are unable to remember, I already responded to it. Keep in mind you originally said that Android Eclair had the same features of iOS 6. So i responded with this:

iOS 5 has had that ability for quite some time now. It's not an iOS 6 feature. But that would require you to actually research what you're talking about rather than make blind rage-filled comments about it.

I'm now fearful for your sanity....I very clearly said this on the topic of 4G:

Again, such nuances would require you to actually read my posts rather than glance at them while watching your movie.

The reasoning behind why you're calling them clueless is the very definition of arrogance.

Oh I see! I suppose if I also went looking for thousands of posts where people call Android laggy ****ty trash designed for those who just want to be different, we could use that as "fact" too?

No, it's accepted by people who have Android logos shoved so far up their own asses that they cannot use rationality or respect to evaluate their rivals. This is so damn hilarious, I'm almost shocked you actually believe "everyone else thinks this way so it must be right!" is the proper way to go about this.

Every single one of them. But that, again, would require you to remove that stick out of your ass, to treat me like an adult, and actually READ my posts instead of paraphrasing them to say whatever you want them to say.

Yes, they are. (I'd explain to you why Project Butter and Google Now are just two examples of the catchup, but seeing as you didn't bother reading reading it the first time, I doubt you'll read it this fifth or sixth time)

Oh look. You've looked at my posting history. I need to have made more than two ROM threads to know Android? I've been dealing with Android long before I became a member of XDA. I was around when Windows Mobile 5 was the hot thing to use, and I was around when the porting of Android to WM devices became a thing. I know plenty about Android, and ironically, perhaps that's why you're so upset. It appears I know more about the platform than you do, because what I know is based on fact, whereas what you think you know is based on opinion.

Ouch. A personal insult. Well, if you don't have anything else to say...

Yes, please. Let's "go", and I'll continue to show you what "real" arguments are, not ones based off "articles" where iPhone users moan about Android getting Instagram. I think you never quite understood the difference between "fact" and "opinion".

And this seems to be your problem. Do yourself a favor, stop replying to this thread on your phone, do it from your computer. Maybe that way you'll actually read my posts completely.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
This is a good read of how were still catching up to Apple

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/11/a-quick-look-at-ios-6-and-its-new-android-features/
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
If you don't know the context behind an argument, please don't bother trying to get involved in it. The discussion I'm having with him has very little to do with iOS specifically.

The fact you called it "icrap" already tells me enough about you to know I doubt you will be reasonable either.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Here is one of many noting iPhone users reaction to instagram for Android. note the overuse of the word eww

http://www.androidpit.com/instagram-for-android-404116
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
Indeed, I come across as arrogant because it is I who is stated all iPhone users are clueless and I'm using "articles" of iPhone users saying "oh no Android has instagram".

That makes me soooooo arrogant. :(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
They have a wonderfully unbiased and factual statement at the bottom too!

I mean, with an ending like that, who wouldn't take them seriously?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
I said some of the features have been available since eclair. So what is your answer to the numerous articles showing the already existing Android functions on some of the most highlighted functions?

And didn't you claim Android was still playing Catch up?

You haven't backed one of your arguments up
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Still waiting for you to post anything backing your arguments up
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eg1122:
Your argument is that fern cannot backup his claims and that he twists ur words when in fact it is u who is twisting the words around. As far as fern backing up with facts those can be read by doing a simple search.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Well sorry but if you're going to tell me that a large portion of American iPhone users aren't like that then you don't know any iPhone users