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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Sane? You called me a liar. Stupid and a six year old. I just now called you crazy. You really think Im going to chat with you?

You know i don't agree with you but I didn't call you a liar in public.

The name calling particularly publicly calling me a liar is enough for me to not want any private dealings with you
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Rant over I'm out
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
Wait, what? In which post did I call you a liar?

It's odd to me that you would say that, especially with you repeatedly mocking me, calling me a fanboy, calling me a lawyer, claiming I could do stupid things like convince us we breathe methane or horrible things like defend a serial killer, even calling me a scientologist (wth?)That's not an issue to you?

I don't get you. I sucked up my pride, PM'ed you a rather polite message attempting to clear the air, and yet you're still so filled with rage that you insist on being obnoxious.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Ok fair enough. The liar thing bothered me tho. I'll pm you back
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] durandetto:
So how about that google now thing? I hear its pretty cool.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] durandetto:
I apologize to the op for the iTurd thing that eventually caused the hijacking of his thread.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eg1122:
The problem is that 4 g does exist. Sprints might not be up to par with Verizon's or tmobile's, but these two do have it and they run great. So apple could of put 4g on the models for these carriers.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jeffsanace:
That was you? Why I outa..... Lmao

One Bad Seed creates another.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
He wasn't really defending by blaming on carrier tho..it's true..Sprint has very limited 4g network. Only three cities in Oregon I believe. I think the strategic move he's talking about is not having pissed off customers that purchased an expensive device and can't use all features..ME..LTE...GNEX..plus can't even use the 4g network that i could when had the ns4g. Live same place, but only 3g now. BUT..neither of these has anything to do with siri or Google voice.

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] funcrusher:
I'm wondering who will get the dog.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Stoney 666:
Can you guys please post your pm's so we know what's going on.... Thank you..... (F*ck apple).

Bad Seed, the ones who say...

"Give me your lunch money!"
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KaoMinerva:
This thread is awesome... Should be sticky

LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
Yes..yes!

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Liquid was very gracious. That was a serious thread jack. So who was the op? lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] durandetto:
I don't think he has responded more than his original post.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Lol ok i don't feel so bad then
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
This thread has been epic.

Entertainment at its finest. Thanks LiquidSolstice and Fernando.

It's like listening to a Cubs/Sox argument. No one wins, both people get pissed, except this is the Internet so no one gets punched in the face.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Tbbo514:
Dude I use it all the time
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
I got so mad I punched myself in the face. We are cool now lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] `Ghost`:
On the next episode of Internet Tough guy, watch a blatent iOS fanboy attempt to disassemble android while failing to remember his original points.

♪He'll ***** and scream and make you sigh,

Come talk to the Internet Tough Guy!♪
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
I bet! What situations do you find yourself using it the most?

Haha yeah, I could imagine that as I was reading the thread. It truly entertained me for like 10 minutes as I read through pages of it, but you both got pretty angry, haha. Surprised the mods didn't jump in and shut down. I'm personally glad with their decision not to. It was an educational argument.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mlin:
Ummmm, Siri still sucks. She's an annoying smart mouth clown and trying to get information from her often takes longer than a simple Google search. Android had a very nice vice search feature long before siri and what made it great was that it was quick and convenient. Google's new voice search seems faster and more convenient than the previous iteration and certainly more useful than siri. FWIW, I used an iPhone 4s for the last 5 months.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
Like i said earlier, she's like the self checkout at Walmart..can't get that thing to shut up either. Please insert cash..would you like me to look that up for you..? No, siri..i just asked you to find it for my health.

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KaoMinerva:
This is hilarious

LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] r0zj0k3r:
-p

1. I have continuous 4G coverage where I live. And it has been here for a while, so it is catch up. Not supporting 4G because it's not as wide spread as it should be is a pretty lame excuse when you know that it is coming. Especially from a company that claims to put out the best everything. And for the price apple charges they could have added it and taken a small margin of profit out of their pocket to support the industry as a whole. But they will now (iPhone 5) that they are ready. The irony of your "strategy" comment is not lost in that the real strategy was probably just that they can add 4G to the list on 'new' features and ignorant end users can say look what my iPhone does. Don't give these companies any credit. The only strategy is how to keep taking money from your wallet.

2. The PPI eye thing is stupid, but Retina is a good display, and everything else about it is hype and marketing at it's best. I have put the retina next to Sony's and Samsung's displays and they all look fantastic.

3. Look it's not catch up, and they both copy each other and their releases occur at different times. It's all an illusion and arguments like this only feed the delusional parts of this industry.

4. Yes there is an advantage; choice. That's why idrones drooled over the white Idevices. Screen size also matters, look at all of the options when you consider androids, and not just the 3gs 4 and 4G all of which are pretty much exactly the same with deliberate upgrades between each.

5. Cydia packs a lot, but remember when you needed to to jailbreak the iPhone not too long ago just to change the background. Remember that topic about copying? Also with android you don't need a Cydia since everything is done on play.

6. Eventually they get untethered, and the devs are very clear that their ability to exploit could be stopped by Apple at any point.... And unlock is only easy if you are on the right baseband, and the right software, and it's actually quite a bit more complicated and less likely

7. Freedom is at the core of android and a far cry from apple, specific vendors do take this away, and then it is given back by developers at this forum.

8. I'll give you this one. The Android updates are a horrible mess. This is why you're seeing Google devices with updates directly from them now.

9. For someone who's not a fan boy, you are getting a bit heated and defensive.

10. I had an iPhone 4 and liked it. It is smooth, easy learning curve, and well built. I hated the locked down OS. Going back to the 4G comment, I actually might have kept it if the iPhone worked with tmobile 3g or 4g, but it doesn't. And after months of trying to unlock it, because the baseband I and many others were on can't be unlocked I gave up. I will never go back. Android is rougher around the edges but I don't care, where it lacks it more than makes up in other areas. Whether it be ingenuity or choice or price.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
The FCC just ruled that Verizon is abusing their use of the c block of lte they run and Verizon can't block wifi tether anymore .

Funny side note att iphone users still think they are on 4g. I was arguing with a guy the other day about that.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] michael.stollaire:
My wife ownes the iFail, and just got the 4s, but it is very disappointing, especially after using my OG Evo and LTEVO. Siri is simply a piece of crap. I was in radio broadcasting, so my relatives can hear me talking from LA in upstate NY, without my using a PA or phone. ;) I'm saying this because Siri-us Crapware can't pick up things I'm saying when I have the phone next to my face, and I'm not talking about difficult phrases. I'm saying "Malibu" and it pukes. In comparison, Google Now and Voice Search actually WORK, and work well. Siri? EPIC FAIL.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] laie1472:
I agree 100%

#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\=LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DB13:
Try telling Google to do a Barrel roll its funny
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
Yes, lamenting on the fact we have users immature enough to call the iPhone the 'iTurd' is showing Apple love. I just love how on XDA any slight remark that isn't entirely anti-Apple is considered Apple fanboyism. Just goes to show how damn insecure certain Android users are about Apple devices...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Or it shows how you constantly defend them.

Seriously after all of their patent trolling. Using sympathetic judges to fight off their competition , I don't see how anyone who loves open source and Android can defend Apple. And its not like this is an apple forum. This is the forum of the phone that was ridiculously blocked by Apples patent whoring.

are you really surprised people give your comments a hard time? And yeah saying iturd is childish but I'm sure he was just trying to be funny.

This is an HTC forum.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
Let's be clear about something that seems to evade most XDA users who reply to my posts. I. Don't. Like. Apple.

Got it? I don't want an iPhone, and I have never wanted an iPhone. I don't own a single Apple product, and excepting the possibility of the Macbook Air, I may never own one at all.

Just because I point out the infantile absurdity in idiotic and childish namecalling of Apple products doesn't mean I'm defending them. I'm attempting to defend the last shred of hope in my mind that we are all mature adults that have actually graduated from high school.

It's just supposed to be funny? So if I said Android was just a laggy ****ty operating system that always plays catchup to the iPhone (whether it's Siri or smooth framerates) that would also be funny? Yes?

I don't care what forum this is. Just as there aren't any rules on the way you talk about Apple, there's no rules governing the way I talk about how you talk about Apple.

No offense intended, but deal with it.

EDIT: And no, I'm not surprised at all. I am, however, amazed at how far people go to defend their Apple insults.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
And when siri came out I thought it was pretty cool. Lot of people at work have iPhones.

What I like even more are the tests being done showing google now outperforming siri. why wouldn't I? I'll never own an iPhone and I want voice command.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
And while I'm glad that you have that viewpoint, I seem to remember hoards of Android users calling Siri "nothing but a gimmick" and "stupid", and I even know specific users that claimed Siri was dumb, but the moment they heard about Google Now, they proudly stated that "it was so much better than Siri".

I like what Google has done too. I'm glad that Google is being pressured by companies like Apple to make a better operating system. But sometimes the hypocrisy of some people is just hilarious.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PaulHBK:
Why are you wasting so much energy defending crapple, I'm sorry, apple, if you don't like them???
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
I can't reply to you if you're not able to read.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
@liquid solstice.

You are entitled to your opinion. I'm not calling you names. This is a debate.

And Apple is doing the catch up.

No 4g

The resound has a better ppi.and its almost a year old.

Toy phone screen size.

And all these new features in ios 6 that Android has had since eclair.

Android has more freedom out of the box than a jailbroken iPhone.

the freedom to unlock blah blah blah. The list goes on and on.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
I've never even used the voice search or any other voice service due to the privacy and that Google stores what I say as a way of "personalizing" it. googles privacy and search policy is the only issue I have with the company. And I don't believe Android fans are being hypocrites over this patent. It's the PRINCIPLE of the matter that Apple is trying to remove the RIGHTS that open source has been built on. Take Ubuntu for example. A group of guys for together to build an operating system for ANYONE to use without having to pay an arm and a leg to Microsoft. Android is built off the same principles and Apple is basically telling the world that it's NOT acceptable for people to have their own minds and use software and/or any device that supports deploying ideas into reality. Had they not sought to completely eradicate Android from day one, it wouldn't have this much attention. Fine, they believe their patents have been infringed upon. So go after the patents. They didn't have to go out and completely wipe out the product that hosts it! How is Samsung at fault here anyway? They didn't make the system, they just saw something that would increase sales. Google and Samsung got together to put the SOFTWARE that is supposedly infringing onto the DEVICE needed to deploy said software. Samsung didn't code the search. ANDROID/GOOGLE did that. In the end, it's Apple That is trying to control the flow of technological advancement. THAT'S what has everyone with their panties in a bunch. Bottom line..Apple has NO RIGHT to control advancement. This is a free nation for a reason. Apple can suck it.

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Well said
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
I think what some of the backlash against siri is that it was marketed in a misleading way. As was their argument that some of their devices ran on 4g. Apple plays dirty. They know they have adoring fans and a huge following of powerful people.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] woody296:
Hold on, i getting some popcorn.......
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Im not going to qoute that lol. Well your right the iPhone came out before the rezound but they only release every few years. My issue is with those saying android is still catching up. That's ridiculous. Not since ics.

And try going back to a 3.5 inch screen now.

I also have a Verizon 4g phone. I wouldn't be happy relying solely on sprint. But that's the network. The phone itself is lte.

Apple did a great job creating the iPhone. They ARE playing catch up now though.

And the only reason Apple can get their updates out is because they can lol. They control it. The other manufacturers are crippled by the networks
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] woody296:
Maybe just don't use the phone at all while driving, i have heard that leads to lower fatality rates.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
SOMEONE finds the exploit correct? Could be me, you, Joe blow, but it's found because we are OPEN SOURCE

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
....didn't you read what I said though? They still are playing catchup. Why else would they be scrambling to add in Google Now? To push "Project Butter"? To rid us of physical buttons? Surely you must realize there is something that prompted that...

Again, I'm not sure if you read what I posted. I enjoy my screen size. But many, many other people would not, and do not.

Verizon actually has decent LTE. But seriously? I had a 3D screen on my Evo 3D, but I didn't have any 3D content outside of some ****ty YouTube videos. Does that give the Evo 3D the advantage for having a useless feature? The LTE in this phone is absolutely useless until I actually have LTE towers in my area.

I'm not sure I understand how. They still have record sales, are launching new devices, and every time they push out a new feature, all the Android manufacturers scramble to somehow integrate it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
....wait, what? We are open source? As in we the users or we "Android"? If it's the former, that doesn't make any sense, if it's the latter, you're utterly deluded.

The Android we run on non-Nexus devices is not open source.

If the exploits are open source, why hasn't Rev.io released their source code? Why hasn't Lazy Panda released their source code?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
[/QUOTE]

Maybe I did skim over your post a bit. Im watching a movie.

The same can be said for ios6. Look at how many features they have copied from android. When i get time i will post them.

The iPhones sales are certainly not record right now. Not sure where you got that info. They have dropped off as people are waiting for the 5. That's public record. And a lot of the success is attributed to the brand name appeal. I don't know about you but almost all iPhone users I know could care less and know nothing about what we are talking about. They see it as status. And again i say that updates for android are at the mercy of the carrier.

And i didn't even mention the shear volume of choices we have. Apple? One choice.

And seriously you are arguing the point that Apple has just as much freedom?

I can flash any number of different roms. With the dinc I could run cm7, flash OC kernels. When you can compile a Rom or kernel from source for Apple I will concede that point.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
I look forward to reading that.

I wasn't referring to any specific model, but the overall success of the iPhone series.

And this is the arrogant, bigoted bull**** that I hate about Android users. You do not know why people got their phones. It is not for you to decide whether they are stupid or smart because of their choice of phone. You don't know that they see it as status. You're going by anecdote, and you've got the same condescending attitude that users have about the iPhone.

You say that as if it's not worth mentioning, but that's a HUGE disadvantage.

Choice of what?

No, that's not what I'm arguing at all. No offense, but it's kind of annoying for you to paraphrase what I'm saying and then say you're watching a movie and can't fully reply. Either completely read my points and respond to them when you have time, or just don't reply at all, I'm getting kind of ticked that you keep changing what I say.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
And why would lazypanda release? So their exploit can be patched?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dave_k605:
Siri or any other voice guided app I've ever tried to use had been a complete waste of time, siri rarely understands a thing you say....others are just as bad.

Every function I want these apps to do, I can do faster without a retry (or 5) they all need to come a long long way before I would use them for anything other than 3 minutes of comical enjoyment, even then 3 mins is pushing it.

We all look redic talking to phones with out someone on the other end.

in all honesty, I wish the software companies would use all their time on optimizing their os to ruin more efficient with the hardware to create great battery life. Let's have something useful.

Sent from my SCH-I500
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
Read the post I was replying to.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Well I did read your post this time. You are kind of escalating this in a negative way so Im going to discontinue this. I know you have done good work as have i for android.

You can Google the ios6 features that copy android. There was quite a few articles written better then i can do on the subject
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JediNinjafication:
And yes Dave..battery would be nice

My bad..I'm a nexus

*Android is upgrading...*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
If you could not handle responding to my points, especially after making numerous excuses as to why you could not in the first place, you shouldn't have bothered.

I'm not going to Google what you told me you would reply with in the first place. That's your job. I'm sorry to hear that you don't have a response, I guess you're a bit too distracted to do so right now.

Enjoy your movie, I guess.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Im not sure you see how you come off to others. You get angry when you feel your argument isn't responded to properly. That is somewhat controlling. And I only said I I skimmed over your post once. Not numerous times.

I told you I was watching a movie because you made the point and i agreed. It certainly doesn't mean that I didn't read your other responses.

The debate seemed to be heading down a path i didn't want to follow. Arguing just for arguments sake.

It isn't my job to do anything really. Certainly not just to prove a point you will just argue with. I'm saying the info is out there and is is factual.

And really it doesn't matter what you believe or that there is anything wrong with it. Your entitled to it certainly. I've just noticed you put yourself out there a lot responding to anti Apple comments.

And you are going to hear a lot of anti Apple comments here.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
No, I get annoyed when you completely misinterpret my points and then when you actually go back to read them, you decide I'm not "nice enough" for your tastes and you tell me to Google YOUR own points.

The only path this debate was heading down was the one in which you are proven wrong, and the only reason it was guaranteed down that path is because you did not respond to my points nor did you put in evidence to back up your own points.

I'll say it again, because you still don't seem to understand this concept; you made the claim about the feature copying, not me. You get to prove to me why your claim is true. This isn't rocket science.

For whatever pride you're attempting to save, you've pretty much killed off a potentially interesting discussion/debate. Like I said, I hope that movie was worth it...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fernando sor:
Come on man. That is the most arrogant post I've ever read. You have won nothing and you certainly don't control my pride or any other facet of my personality. it isn't the argument I'm walking away from its your ego. Post your response because I am done this time.

You and I probably should not interact.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
Wtf?? You want arrogant? Did you even look at your own post? The one that I took the time to reply to?

That's like the single-most judgmental arrogant condescending post you could possibly make. You would have replied to this if you actually took the time to read my post, but that obviously didn't happen.

I'm not taking this seriously, I'm just disappointed. You keep giving me reasons for why it's okay for you to change my own words, not respond to large chunks of it, make claims without backing them up, and now you keep wanting the last word. If that's really all you're after, whatever.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KaoMinerva:
@LiquidSolstice, man **** apple, stop defending them. They are a bad ass company that aren't about ****! **** yea plenty people hate them ****ers, your on an Android forum & they damn sure stalled this phone with their ****. **** them, I'll piss on their products in the store if I wouldn't go to jail. Aren't you tired of their bull**** yet? God damn...

The LTEVO says hello!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LiquidSolstice:
You disgust me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
LiquidSolstace,

While I agree with a lot of what you say (and you have an excellent way with words, I must say), you do come off quite haughty at times. It is probably because you're so passionate about this topic, and I'm sure it isn't entirely on purpose. But I can see where you're rubbing people the wrong way.

Plus, you really would be an Apple fan if you read your own posts. You make their products sound amazing! ;-)