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[HTC One X] ayhamx360:
hi man

i switched from sgs2 to htc one x

and i have to say im not impressed at all

and galaxy s3 is better than htc one x in term of hardware

and for gaming sgs3 is better than the hox

im having lags with some games some times on my htc one x i guess its a software problem

but still i dont recommend switching from sgs3 to htc one x

because imo galaxy s3 is a better phone than the htc one x

but for music i think htc one x a better a little because of the beats audio and in terms of design i think htc one x looks better

but for the rest galaxy s3 owns,,,,,

even my sgs2 preform better than htc one x in some tasks

so stick to ur sgs3 man its a great phone :)
[HTC One X] xtacee1990:
No you should not. Instead you should donate money to third world countries and save people from hunger and preventable diseases.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AdamLange:
Since locked Verizon SGS3 is now the main problem, i'v decided to split my kernel thread to separate one that focus directly on unlocking bootloader and progress in that matter.

Summary of the problem

Verizon model is protected from flashing unsigned/modified boot.img and recovery.img. Which means there is no known root method as for now for SCH-I535.

And that is where our adventure starts ....

Rooted stock boot.img issue:

CWM Recovery.img flash issue:

Research status: 50%

+ 20% - Some devs stated that RIL is hacked and there is also sucessfull Kexec implentation in works - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28484191&postcount=262 Stay tuned for more news. Kexec proof-of-concept thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1760678

+ 20% - phone can boot from unsigned boot.img flashed to recovery partition, this will leave you without recovery and requires to boot-trough-recovery every time u rebooting phone! (thanx invisiblek)

Links: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28420589&postcount=47 , http://pastebin.com/eARk7r48

+ 10% - phone rooted trough system.img tricks -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1756885 (by invisiblek)

ROM analysys:

boot.img -> signed

recovery.img -> signed

system.img -> not signed

cache.img -> not signed

Update [7/7/2012]

News about locked Verizon model is spreading over the websites and main tech-related portals. Hopefully we will get some detailed info soon.

Update [7/7/2012]

It looks like it has been rooted by using system.img trick (system.img is not signed)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1756885

Enjoy! and thanx to invisiblek :) good job!

Update [07/15/2012] VZN insider confirmed this is not a true info

One of thread members chatted with verizon reps over mail & chat and got info that there may be possible unlocker released for bootloader at vzn locked phones. Here's the screenshots of chat: http://i.imgur.com/0lX3o.png , http://i.imgur.com/ULA4X.png

At this is not confirmed yet officialy, it may be interesting finding.

Update [07/15/2012]

Adam Outler posted he's own research info in separated thread, read it. It may help a bit -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1769411

Update [07/16/2012]

Galaxy S III Verizon Developer edition shows up on Samsung Website! -> http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I535MBCVZW

Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AdamLange:
Help neede:

can anyone with rooted phone dump me partition scheme?

adb shell

command "mount"

copy paste at PM

As the ROM is not containing bootloader, we must dump it from phone :)

Adam
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] invisiblek:
this should help you

http://pastebin.com/ruE9UCVi

EDIT: I'll dump anything you need, just PM me
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nosympathy:
lol lists the year 1969? lol...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Senryo:
45 minutes before Unix Time beings? What's the purpose of that I wonder?

When my phone arrives either today or Monday, I'm willing to supply any info as well!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] invisiblek:
I dumped all the partitions listed earlier. You can get them here.

I left out cache, system, userdata

I believe aboot is the bootloader...

These are dd images...

http://goo.im/devs/invisiblek/i535/dump.7z
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] biff6789:
Now that we have root and can adb dump, can't we dump this guy's system and get his unique bootloader?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1754173

Worth a shot, no?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Robster180:
I think that's what everyone is waiting for. He just hasn't posted in a little bit, i'm following like 5 threads dealing with his magic unlcoked custom boot screen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Pan Tralaliński:
that hopefully could be flahed over the one we have now. someone please contact him and ask to dump all his partitions and most important bootloader
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AdamLange:
Thanks for dump, looking into it ... its hard as this is blind shooting ;) but heck that, someone need to do the dirty job ;P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] WildZontar:
This sucks. So this means alternate ROMs are out (I've seen phones like the Milestone get CM9 so I am confused)? Is the bootloader theoretically "crackable"?

I bought this phone with the expectation it would last well beyond Jelly Bean with the help of alternate ROMs. Really tiring of the expensive, environmental disaster that is planned obsolescence (a reason why I no longer use apple).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] NegativeOne:
Adam, I have great respect for what you've done for the community already, but I have a question. And I don't mean to hijack the thread.

There have been other devices with locked bootloaders, and nothing came of it. Do you see something special here that gives you hope of a resolution? I'm coming from a Droid X (I just stepped on the same landmine twice; next phone is HTC for sure.) and that one never got unlocked or broken either in over 2 years.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AdamLange:
Im looking into bootloader code now, hopefully i will find something interesting. There is always hope but i will not promise or guarantee anything. I don't even own the device which is way more hardcore way to check if my findings will bring some results :)

I got some of interestd people in helping me out, but as i said, there is no promise from me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] hitman_dreams:
NegativeOne, I too am coming from the X2 which never got an unlocked bootloader either. The only difference here is that millions of people are going to have this phone and will help with the unlocking of the bootloader. I'm sure we can get a leak from someone who also has this phone and wants it unlocked. I'm not sure if I can go through another locked bootloader phone like the X2 and might end up returning this Monday when it arrives in the mail. I can't even express how angry this is making me Verizon!

I'll hold on to it for a little while and see what kind of support it's getting in my two week return period. Keep up the good work AdamLange and invisiblek!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] invisiblek:
well, i've got here:

thats from flashing a custom boot.img using dd

i got the same thing yesterday flashing a kernel using cwm but, i didn't get the unlock icon by doing that

unlock icon sticks after reverting to the stock kernel using odin
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Robster180:
For those of us that are a little slower to understand, could you expand on what that means for the bootloader? is it in fact encrypted? or no for sure yet's?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] juremy:
so...you're off to verizon store right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] invisiblek:
lol, funny guy

for the record, if anyone gets stuck at something like this, pull your battery and flash the stock version of whatever you were trying to flash (in this case the kernel) using odin
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stiltzkin:
Really appreciate you trying anyway dude. Huge fan of your work on the Inc, especially on kernels.

So essentially we can overwrite the boot.img, but it's still getting checksummed/verified somewhere by the system, right? Where is that check taking place, and is it feasible to modify/overwrite that portion of the system as well? Just throwing ideas out there, even though this seems like a very long shot.

Thanks again invisiblek.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bamaredwingsfan:
Here is dumb question. If the bootloader was encrypted by verizon after they recieved them from samsung. Could we not just ebay our SG3's an buy the verizon version straight from samsung? Would this bypass the encryption step that verizon installed on the phone before they boxed them up? Will samsung sell the phone out right like that?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AdamLange:
You can buy non verizon phone. Every verizon phone will have locks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neh4pres:
WOAHH. Just did another reboot to show the girlfriend the unlocked custom splash, it's gone now. I did nothing to the phone between reboot. The reboot were about 5 minutes apart
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tedkord:
Hey, guys. My credit card was just charged, so my GS3 should be shipping soon. Just wanted to say thanks to all who are working in getting into the bootloader. You guys are what makes Android the best. Without folks like you, my Thunderbolt would have been a 4 hour lasting piece of trash.

Also wanted to flip the bird at Verizon.

Never underestimate Verizon when.it comes to controlling your experience, and being sure you can't get what you want out of your device. They are the Apple of carriers - the biggest and most profitable, most arrogant and think.they still own your device after you buy it.

If its not worked around, I may just sell the GS3 and get a RAZR HD when its released. Same lockdown, bigger battery and no Touchwiz.

Giggity
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neyenlives:
Samsung wont sell a CDMA generic phone to you. They wont even sell you a Verizon branded phone. You have to get your phone from the carrier if you want it to work on their network.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AdamLange:
@james, and what about unlocked phones? they will work with ANY network. and will not have lock-by-vzn
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neyenlives:
Where do you get a CDMA and LTE capable unlocked GSIII?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AdamLange:
AFAIK you can get for example AT&T/sprint/tmo version without simlock from someone. Or get international version of SGSe (i9300)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neyenlives:
You would not be able to use any of those on Verizons CDMA and LTE network. I would take the US hardware over the Intl. hardware so Intl. model is out. Verizon LTE is not something I would give up. Especially not for unlocked bootloader.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] xliderider:
Big problem is Verizon wouldn't allow such a device on their network.

I'm sure Verizon has already blocked out specific MEID numbers to designate official SG3 devices that will be allowed on their network. Anything else can't be activated.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AdamLange:
Because of? they are incompatible with anything?

so you cant just buy a phone from a shop and use VZN simcard in it? thats weird. And they still got clients? :)

@jamesnmandy: i got a weird feeling that youre somehow connected to VZN ...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] sarkozy:
Verizon phones are CDMA, not GSM. The SIM card is only used for LTE functionality.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neyenlives:
The Verizon network is not GSM. It is CDMA. ATT, Sprint and TMobile use different networks. You cannot use Tmobile phone on Verizon or Verizon phone on ATT. Verizons network is far far better than the others. Sure you can leave Verizon to go to Sprint, but your service would suck. Who wants to get poor service for unlocked bootloader?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] andreiantal:
Wait until Vodafone or maybe Orange will start doing the same there. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AdamLange:
James, what are GSM/LTE ranges that verizon using? does international version of SGS3 does not cover them (even partially?)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AdamLange:
Quote:

"Verizon Wireless is one of two major U.S. carriers that use CDMA technology, the other being Sprint Nextel."

So the sprint version of phone should be compatible with VZN network. Its now just a simlock problem - em i right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neyenlives:
No not even partially. I dont know the frequencies by memory but all the carriers operate on different frequencies. The only one that works is if you buy the Intl. Version hardware and put it on ATT but then you only get HSPA+ data and limited (unless you use illegal trick to get unlimited data) so that would be getting less hardware and less service for more money and unlocked bootloader? If phone breaks you cant take it to ATT. If service is poor you cant walk in and get help. Its very poor option.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AdamLange:
OK, so as far as the specs data are accurate the SPRINT's version of SGS3 covers THE SAME network ranges/types as VZN ones.

Cellular_Networks:	CDMA800 (BC0), CDMA1900 (BC14)

Cellular-Data+Links:	cdmaOne, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A

So unlocked sprint's version (without simlock) + the VZN card should do the job :)

u will get the unlocked bootloader :) and still using VZN services :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neyenlives:
no, it's not the same.....they operate differently, even on the same frequencies, also the carriers have lists of IMEI/ESN numbers. They only allow a Verizon ESN on a Verizon network. Same way if you try to activate a Verizon phone on Sprint, they will not allow it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies

This has been forever the case. There is a reason you must buy the carriers phone in the USA. In the USA you choose a carrier for service first, decide who has best service for your area, then you buy one of the phones offered for that carrier. If a phone is not offered for your carrier you don't get that phone......
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Coop9:
Couple of issues. The sprint version does not have a swappable sim card. It's internal. Second VZW devices and Sprint devices generally are not interchangeable. They don't allow them on each other's networks. If it was that simple we all would have pre-ordered with Sprint :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tehh4ck3r:
None of those would work on verizon's network
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neyenlives:
Every one of the US versions, Sprint, ATT, TMobile, Verizon all have different hardware radio inside. So a Sprint phone works on Sprint only, Verizon on Verizon only, TMobile on TMobile only, ATT on ATT only. We shop by service first, hardware second. That's mainly because none of the networks work with each other. LTE on ATT is not the same as LTE on Verizon. 4G on TMobile is not the same as 4G on Sprint. Even though they sometimes use similar frequencies, they use different hardware on the towers and in the devices.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tekhna:
Stupidest system ever. Kill the carrier subsidy model.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ooofest:
Maybe not:

- ooofest
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neyenlives:
I have no problem with it because all the other carriers have crap service compared to Verizon. I would not want a bunch of customers from Sprint bogging down the Verizon network because Sprint has not invested in their network.

Service comes first. Hardware second. As it should be. It does me no good to get a wonderful handset like the HTC EVO 4G if the network is garbage.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tekhna:
The carrier-subsidy model is anti-competitive because it forces consumers into long-term contracts. In places without the carrier-subsidy model prices are lower, networks tend to be higher quality, and consumers can truly vote with their dollars. You'd see better networks in the US in general if we got rid of this nonsense.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neyenlives:
I don't see the problem. I have been renewing my Verizon contract, every two years, for 10 years or so now. In exchange for that they have built the largest and fastest LTE network around. I get crazy stupid speeds everywhere I go and because I have been with them all along I got to keep my unlimited data. I get better reception than all the other carriers everywhere I go. I get a 24% discount from my employer as well. They also have one of the best device selections. The Razr Maxx and GSIII to name two which I own. If the only thing I have to give up is a locked bootloader on the GSIII, I'm fine with that.

We are now off topic a bit much so lets get back to locked bootloader discussion. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tekhna:
Heh, this isn't off-topic--the carrier subsidy model is what allows them to lock bootloaders.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neh4pres:
Verizon uses the 700mHz band for their gsm lte.. 800mhz for cdma voice.. and 1900mhz cdma 3g
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BeansTown106:
could be a good chance we can use our old trusty "bootmenu" from the droid x and modify it in a way that we modify hijack to pull the bootmenu and then bootmenu would have options for reboot to cwm reboot to normal kernel and reboot to modified kernel.. if stock it would just continue boot if cwm or custom kernel it would flash that selection to recovery partition and reboot to recovery partition making u either boot to cwm or to ur custom kernel.. also it would have a default setting option for u to choose wether it be custom or normal kernel so u dont always have to use it while booting.. this is just me and wizard0f0s brainstorming but to me it makes perfect sense.. now i just need my phone to come in so i can play guinny pig on this whole thing

basically between this and the possibility of kexec working too we have options and im pretty much sure at this point we will be flashing custom kernels.. slim slim chance we wont be but imho way higher of a chance of a workaround
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jgrimberg1979:
No ****, I got the same feeling.. Sounds like your in bed with Verizon
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jmacko:
Is this of any help? (On further review, it's the MSM8660, not the MSM8960 we have.) I'll keep looking....

From: http://www.anyclub.org/2012/05/how-to-enabledisable-secure-boot.html

And perhaps:

http://www.anyclub.org/2012/05/qpst-emergency-download-support.html

Maybe someone over there, that knows the SOC better (or has the SOC documentation) might be able to collaborate to understand how to work around our issues, or at least point out the most efficient attack vector.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neyenlives:
sorry, just very happy with my service......and have been using a Charge forever that never got any CM/AOSP love either, so I have seen what is possible as long as you have root, debloat and custom Touchwiz based roms...and it is good. Not as good as CM/AOSP granted like on the Fascainte, but still not a deal breaker all things considered.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BeansTown106:
if thats the snapdragon s4 then i'd assume so.. we might just have 3 options now.. granted this would be the best as it would just be like having an unlocked phone
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Imatoasta:
Maybe this guy could help with JTAG?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnA8Djs55Ds
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ooofest:
This.

Fewer providers and proprietary networks means they easily lock us into whatever they decide to charge and provide. Plus, we get the added limitation (for LTE) that phones are only "investments" within the same provider network - again, we're locked into their proprietary scheme. Sounds like Apple products.

It used to be that we rented phones from Ma Bell. Times have changed for landlines, but we're doing much of it all over x100 for wireless networks, IMHO.

- ooofest
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] preusstang:
Hells yes! Beans and wizard are now on the bandwagon! In case you guys don't know they've worked magic with MIUI and more on the DX. I'm so glad you guys are jumping ship with me. Can't wait for Fedex tomorrow!

Sent from wizards MIUI on DX.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Quize:
Let me just preface this post with I am not a rom developer, so some of the assumptions listed below might not be correct. It is just based on my understanding of what I have researched so far. Also, this information is based off of the secure boot feature in the MSM7XXX chipset, but I don't think the procedures/sequences should differ too much. If someone has a way to analyze which qfuses are blown, I think it might help greatly in finding a way to get around the signed boot loader.

Qualcomm secure booting sequence on an MSM7XXX phone

An explanation of what qfuses are

How to blow the qfuses

Qualcomms secure boot configuration which is enabled our phones

The debug qfuse

So from my understanding of this, unless someone can analyze and is willing to blow the qfuses on their phone to see what will work, we might have to wait on a signed engineering bootloader leak. Of course, that is all based on the assumption that the secure boot in MSM8960 is still similar/identical to the secure boot feature in the MSM7XXX chipsets. Like I said though this is all based on my understanding of it, so someone with more experience could see a different solution from the information above.

Sources for the info in quotes:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/51789612/80-V9038-15-APPLICATION-NOTE-MSM7XXX-QFUSES-AND-SECURITY
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neyenlives:
i spent many years traveling the country with phones from every major carrier, that's how I know it's the best, that and years of watching people on other networks complain about how their service sucks.....it's not hard to see
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Schaweet:
This is an important thread. Let's all stay on topic pleas.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ckochinsky125:
well no more unlimited data for you so to me the other carriers by the time my contract is up will have just as much lte and if I am going to lose unlimited data I would rather be able to get any phone I choose without dealing with carrier bs. Once my contract is up it will be bye bye cdma hello gsm.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] leewongfei:
Wasn't part of the agreement for Verizon to buy the 700Mhz band, to open up their network? Opening up the network meant being able to use any compatible phone you could bring to the network. What ever happened to that?

---------- Post added at 04:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:17 PM ----------

Its starting to get tempting for me. Verizon LTE is amazing, but I spend most of my time in WIFI areas anyway. Verizon has an amazing network, but i am honestly tired of their politics. If it wasn't for my 25% discount, i would probably jump ship to sprint due to the sprint roaming agreements with Verizon in my area.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TheClap:
The FCC is way too busy investigating nip slips from 7 years ago to do anything about wireless networks (okay, theyre under staffed, under funded and get flooded with complaints by a single organization that has way too much clout and represents almost no one). Factor in any time the FCC tries to actually do anything, the soon-to-be regulated party runs to Congress which then reduces the usefulness of the FCC.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ckochinsky125:
I agree with this. Buying an unlocked phone and not having to deal with carrier bs seems the way to go. i am seriously going to look into other carriers when my contract is up because it seems verizon is doing what at&t used to do by locking down and keeping features off their phones.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] neyenlives:
I dont know why you lost yours but I keep my unlimited under contract until late 2014 and after that I can keep it by simply buying unsubsidized devices.