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[Xoom General] dizzy33:
Again, like I already commented on Youtube, using the xoom in portrait mode to compare performances with a Tegra 3 device is totally useless ... The portrait mode on any Tegra 2 device is always a lot more laggy than the landscape mode because of an internal processor issue which is known and already discussed in many threads. Whatever the Android version, a Tegra 2 device will always be laggy in portrait mode. So to measure the Xoom performances you should do it in landscape mode, and I am very surprised you never noticed any differences between portrait and landscape mode on your Xoom...
[Xoom General] DsturbD:
i'm sure thats true, but my G2x has a Tegra 2 and i notice no lag in portrait, but then again im not doing a side by side comparison with an SGS3 :)
[Xoom General] razorseal:
That's because I never ever used it in portrait mode :)

Maybe I will do a part 3 tonight with both in their intended orientations, and the xoom will be oc'd at 1.6 to do it's best to catch up.

And people say it's not a fair comparison. I never said it was,I was showing what he xoom is capable of next to a latest and baddest device.
[Xoom General] razorseal:
Yep. And you can never use it on the go unless you are doing tethering, which is eating 2 batteries...

It's kinda heavy though lol
[Xoom General] razorseal:
if it had cellular radios,I will do it. But I don't think it will
[Xoom General] DaPoets:
Very true. I tether a heck of a lot from my Gnex to the Xoom but when I'm randomly just wanting to check something it is very nice to have a strong 4G signal shooting into my Xoom w/ out having to whip out my Gnex to get the tethering app going.
[Xoom General] qq120775973:
refinement with xoom

My friend has a Tablet S ,It UI optimizes very good,the same apps in Tablet S is more Smooth, remote control is very useful.

Book design,Good or bad to see individuals
[Xoom General] Buzzwave:
I had a Xoom for 7 months. My sister has a Galaxy Tab 10.1v.

I was trying the Xoom before I bought it and after being used to the Galaxy Tab I was surprised on the higher weight. I thought it would not bother me as I hav big hands and am not that weak :)

But after a usage experience and not only quick tests I can say that the Xoom is too heavy. It is just not as handy as it should be for mobile usage.

That's not the reason why I sold it. I guess I could have lived with that but for that reason I would today think twice about purchasing a new one.

Altogether the Xoom is a great device. It has a lot of interfaces, high compatibility with apps that cause problems on many devices and it's not too expensive. The Galaxy Tab 10.1v does not have an sd-card reader which is a no-go.

So there are pros and cons and everyone has to decide himself. But the weight should be considered - it really is a con.
[Xoom General] matticala:
I've been using Xoom 2 since May now and all I can say is: it sucks.

Despite being the king on hw side (I got 10.1 32gb w/ 3G... mz616), its stock android release (3.2.2) is sooooo bad it angers me big time.

Do not buy Xoom2, definitely.
[Xoom General] bossjeeves:
Same here, I admit my xoom was neglected for a little while after ICS came out, then once JB was avl for xoom (thanks EOS) , I am pretty much connected at the hip with this device. Its smooth, responsive, fast, just a great experience. I love my xoom and I am super happy with my preorder back when this was first announced and feel like I have continuously rewarded for buying into the flagship device.
[Xoom General] logitechor:
xoom is Great

Well other hardware can claim a better screen and screaming fast processors. The Xoom chugs along with a 10 inch screen and slower processors. Now having said that unlocking and rooting gives you so many additional options - overclocking to 1.5ghz - big speed improvements there - installing custom roms. I have installed Team Rouge and Team Eos Roms - currently 4.1.1 Jelly Bean. No other tablet with the exception of the Nexus 7 is as well supported by Google and the Development Teams. Really great work.

What to me adds to the enjoyment of the Xoom compared to others is the impressive hardware options - hdmi out, sdcard slot for additional memory with read and write access as implemented in custom roms, a usb port - where you can attach a considerable amount of hardware including an extenal hard drive, two cameras, and 32 g's onboard memory. In order to sell a tablet for 200.00 or so - much of these features have to be left off or reduced. The Xoom has it all.

Would I be happier with a faster 10 inch tablet with some of the features - likely not. I might if they could bring in a 10 inch with quad core and the rest of the features for that cost. I might buy it then. Otherwise the Xoom stays.
[Xoom General] suavethekid:
Yep that's exactly how I feel I have had my xoom for just about 2 years now and I keep waiting for something new but the xoom just rocks 32gig card plus 32 onboard=soo much delicious data
[Xoom General] DaveBomb:
I 100% agree. Other than a chipset refresh after nearly two years there is almost nothing that I would change about my 4G Xoom. A better screen would be about the only thing that I can come up with, and that's really only if you are forcing me to be picky. I will admit that the original Honeycomb OS left a lot to be desired. But nearly two years later Team EOS continues to makes it seem like I have a new device nightly. There is not better investment in the tablet world than a Xoom running EOS3! I don't see anything new coming my way until Google shows up with a Nexus 10 tablet, and even then it might take some convincing. It never gets old, look at what my iPad can do -- Oh yeah, you haven't seen anything! :cool:
[Xoom General] bossjeeves:
Hopefully the nexus 10 wont have the downfalls the 7 has though, I bought one for my girlfriend and even though it is very snappy and nice to play with, the lack of removable SD and hdmi out and a rear facing camera still makes the xoom a winner in my mind. If the 10 does come with those options then I may be interested.
[Xoom General] DsturbD:
im gonna say a few things about your negative points. i have had my Xoom for just under two months and it is awesome, yeah its a bit on the heavy side, but its good for me

3. if the Xoom wont boot or is stuck, hold down the Vol up key and press the power button, it will shut down and reboot. no need to wait for the battery to die

4. if you mean a host USB port like where you can plug in a mouse or thumb drive, yes it is missing that feature, but it does have a micro usb port where you can plug in an OTG (on the go) cable where you can plug in a thumb drive or other usb device

5. yes it will work with a bluetooth keyboard, there are plenty of small BT keyboards on Amazon

7. that is because the Xoom requires more wattage to charge the battery than a USB connection can provide. it would take days to charge it via USB

8. dont take that out on the Xoom and Google isn't "monitoring" you, just scouring your email so they can show you ads :p

9. i agree with this one, but when you unlock the bootloader and put a custom rom on your tablet, that might break something that you would want them to fix, but since it wasnt the official software that they put on it, they cant support it or fix it, pretty simple when you think of it that way

anyway, thanks for your review and your positive points. you're right about it being solid. i havent dropped mine yet but the feel of it makes me confident it will be alright if i do

and why havent you bought a case for it yet? if you keep dropping it, get a case! :)
[Xoom General] jane999:
Hehe, you're welcome. I seriously love my Xoom, but I had to put my negative thoughts on it as well. To be fair. :)

And I disagree on the warranty stuff - if you think about it, the same points go for a laptop or a netbook, if their warranty doesn't depend on the OS, then there's no reason for Xoom's warranty to depend on it. Hardware is hardware and it can malfunction no matter the OS or the ROM. So my humble opinion is that they should stop considering everything that runs Android as a phone and consider it as a PC. Warranty shouldn't be limited to flashing the Android to stock or eventually replacing the device. So they should educate their technicians how to manage custom ROMs and put the device back to stock and check for a hardware defect and to replace it if needed. Just as with a normal PC.

As for 3. - Yeah, Vol Up + Power would reboot, but I wanted it Off and not Rebooted since it kept on rebooting forever.

As for the case - if I put it in a case, I won't be able to put it in my bag. It barely enters as it is. It's a small lady's bag after all. Ok, not small small, but it's small. I'm thinking of some silicon casing, but I'm not sure if I'd be able to make notes on it easily, so I'm still thinking about it. And anyway, right now I'm very out of money, so this will have to wait.

And I'm totally not dropping it, it's not my fault it keeps on falling and hitting stuff. :)

Thanks for clarifying on the keyboard and other stuff. I probably want too much, but having a MicroSd card, a docking station and a small bluetooth keyboard and a USB connector in the package would have made me so happy. :silly: And a cup of hot chocolate...
[Xoom General] musaedx:
I have my Xoom for more than a year. I've rooted it and some times I overclock it to 1.2 or 1.4 GHz but still feel laggy. So, I was wondering if , say in a year time, can I be able to upgrade the CPU by myself instead of buying a new tablet?
[Xoom General] DsturbD:
i doubt thats even possible, its hardwired in, soldered. nothing to change out
[Xoom General] DaPoets:
the new 7in Acer a110 seems extremely promising and may potentially out do the nexus 7 as it has micro SD and micro hdmi ports. This has kept me from getting a nexus 7 as I use my hdmi in my xoom every now and then and I also like having the extra storage space for movies on the micro sd. They claim in the reviews that it's easy to use in one hand as well.
[Xoom General] Chocu1a:
I have both a Xoom & a Nexus 7. Both have their place. I love the portability of the 7" Nexus. It is definitely faster than the Xoom. I use my Xoom as a comic reader & multimedia device still.

As far as gaming & news I prefer the N7. I can take my N7 to the gym & use it as media & for tracking my progress with my workout.
[Xoom General] X00Mrox:
is the N7 much better? i´m not sure if i should buy one or not
[Xoom General] themichael:
N7 is deff faster CPU wise and should be smoother than even an over clocked Xoom. But like others have stated it lacks HDMI out and a few other perks of a fully featured tablet. I'd say if u have a Xoom already there is no need to upgrade but if u don't nexus 7 or another newer tab is the way to go.
[Xoom General] JDogg1329:
I love my OG XOOM with the EOS JB Nightly. Nice screen, fast and smooth, great for watching movies and reading on. The only negative thing that people should think about before buying it, it's a bit heavy and a bit bulky, compared to the Nexus 7 which would be better suited to reading and lighter, but the xoom does have a bigger screen so it balances out.
[Xoom General] Asphyx:
Well thier Warranty does rely on the BIOS which for all intents and purposes is the Kernel of a Laptop/Desktop.

A Badly written and flashed kernel/BIOS could cause the unit to use wrong voltages or clock settings and burn something out.

It's not the OS that voids the Warranty it is the unlocking of the bootloader that allows you to flash something that can hurt the unit.

As for the comparisons between Nexus7 and Xoom, Yes the Nexus7 is a full powered unit with the latest and faster procs available but you lose a LOT of features in the proccess. No Camera, HDMI port among others. They were lost in the attempt to keep the unit under $200 and while it's a very good unit you have to think of it as the Google Experience Fire/Nook equivilent (low end) device.

The higher end of these units would belong to Asus in it's Transformer series of tablets. Unfortunatly ASUS has yet to release a Google Experience High end device (neither has anyone else either) that would truly be an equivilent to the Xoom.

Until they do I will stick with my Xoom. TeamEOS has a very fine ROM featuring Jelly Bean that really shows how much the HC and ICS were holding that unit back despite it's 1st Gen Tablet specs.

Thats said if Asus or Moto came out with a 7 or 10 inch tab that was full Google Experience and had all the port and feature support of the Xoom I would probably kiss my Xoom goodbye!
[Xoom General] jiffy1080:
I just came back to my Xoom from the Transformer Prime and can't believe how similar they can perform in most tasks. I don't regret coming back to the Xoom but regret the money I lost on the other device. The only thing that will get me to upgrade now is an AOSP 8.9 to 10.1 inch device with a better screen... 2GB of RAM would be nice too.
[Xoom General] evanistheman:
Xoom is very fast

Xoom is very fast
[Xoom General] Chocu1a:
I just picked up a Transformer TF300t. It is the little brother of the Transformer Prime. I hate to say it, but the Xoom has got to go. The Quad core beast is so much faster than my Xoom, even with it OC'ed. Plus the panel looks nicer & it is much thinner & lighter. Plus it also runs a pretty much stock version of JellyBean.

Picked up the TF300 for $325 & sold my Xoom for $225.
[Xoom General] evanistheman:
hi

hi
[Xoom General] hinsdale1:
Where did you find the TF300 for $325, if you dont mind my asking?
[Xoom General] Chelseablue:
I just bought the Transformer TF700 Infinity after having a few problems that I explain in another thread. Its still new and I've got less than an hot on plus I've yet to unlock/root it so I can't really make a comparison quite yet but I have to say that I will never sell my Xoom and i will always love it. It's a masterpiece of a machine that unfortunately like all things will be overtaken by something newer and stronger.
[Xoom General] julyaann:
Xoom+Jelly Beam is the best

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battery in jelly beam is wondroussss:laugh:
[Xoom General] b4b4.4l1:
I've just bought this tab about 2 months ago. Overall this tab is awesome, and it's getting better with acquisition by Google which means better support.

A couple minus points for me are weight and no usb charging.

I'm using this tab together with my girl. At first she hated for its weight and design, but latter she found it quite good for a table at such affordable price. So we both are happy with it now :D
[Xoom General] new-noob:
Cant we just replace our ram with 2GB?

Wonder if xoom's motherboard supports 2gb ram ?
[Xoom General] cognus:
This seems like a 'safe' place to ask really dumb questions.... haha - so I'll pull up my lead shield and ask.

I was/am really impressed with the overall weight of reviews on the XOOM - even in sites that are known to be full of techies and very tough review crowd, it comes up a win. not so with transformer et al which seem to have something like a 15% fail rate [QC issues].

My question: which XOOM is which? I only see one listed on the moto site and they don't even mention the processor in the specs - I see something called a "XOOM 2" on one seller site - I see one that has ARM processor, others have Tegra??? or were those misprints? looking at the wiki there's no mention of any other than the original xoom.... one and only. I can only guess it gets better as 'droid 4.x matures...

I'm torn about 10" vs. 7. to me 10 is a handful - I'd be tempted to carry my notebook instead as its about the same size... I see people everywhere fumbling with their 10" tablets with big covers [so it will standup and sing when you need it to, instead of holding the sucker all the time].. it just feels like work. 7 is graspable in one hand like a phablet... So I was on my way to plunk down for a Nex7 [I despise the lack of aux storage though... that's control-freaky] but got sidetracked reading the xoom reviews
[Xoom General] starfarer:
I've been offered Xoom 32GB for £100 in mint condition by a friend. Don't have enough time to go through reviews but believe most are too old to be relevant now as more newer devices are on market. Should I go for it? Considering that for extra £30-50, probably I can have N7. ATM don't have any specific requirements and preferences. Thanks.
[Xoom General] jiffy1080:
If you have no screen size preference get the n7. Also factor in the storage size of the n7/you cannot use a micro sd. The n7 is superior in many ways but the Xoom holds its own well.
[Xoom General] apollyon0810:
That's pretty accurate. I can't imagine needing to replace my Xoom any time soon, though my GNex is noticeably faster. My next tablet will be an iPad for one simple reason. Apps. I study electrical engineering at Uni and am constantly disappointed to find the awesome and useful apps I use in class on the iPads don't have anything comparable in the android market... sad really. I'm tired of searching for apps and finding two that are semi useful designed for android 2.0 or 100,000 Chinese knockoffs. In my opinion, this is the only place where android falls behind. Well that, and the fragmented ecosystem.

Exhibit A: http://products.wolframalpha.com/courseassistants/physicsI.html

Exhibit B: http://www.pcalc.com/
[Xoom General] cognus:
the only Apple I ever owned/used personally was a ipod touch. I work on pc's, have had a good career in the wintel patch, use android phones/handsets.

Bought the ipad Mini mainly because my wife was whining about things she thinks people do with ipads that's really cool, easy, smart... all that apple smoke.

but looking at it technically - the ipad Mini is very, very well implemented. I'm not a fan of 10's or bigger - i think they are laughably clumsy. my thinkpad 11.6 is far superior at doing real work in about the same size 'carrying' envelope.

but 7's appeal to me as the upper-end of "handset" or "phablet" thingies.

the Mini is just about perfect in size, the os is very well sorted, the battery life is spectacular. yes the screen is fairly ordinary, but very easy on the eyes. to me, the entry WIFI mini is priced appropriately to the value, as is the Nexus 7 in my view. both deliver a lot of the dollar but one has far less issues than the other. far less - especially since the immature 4.2n release. and really, both hold their value well - there is a huge demand for even slightly discounted used Minis on Ebay, bringing about 98% of the new purchase price, which is really nuts if you think about it.
[Xoom General] romdroid.:
I am considering the asus tf300, anyone went from xoom to tf300? I just want the "netbook" experience with the dock, it looks so awesome!!
[Xoom General] stepcalhoun:
Xoom is pretty kl but n7 is half the weight and more convenient on carry in about, tho ull b paying at least another 80 quid for a 32gig n7 and IMO is never get a tablet with less than 32 especially if there is no SD options. If u don't mind the smaller size and potentially double the price I say n7. If not the Xoom IMO is a very God tablet and worth a hundred. Let us know wat u picked and how u find it.
[Xoom General] vicky4112:
I got the XOOM when released with honeycomb and liked it. But after some time I switched to iPad and then iPad2 for a long time. Only recently I picked up the XOOM again to experiment with custom ROMS for the first time and boy I am a happy camper.

I have now JB 4.2 (EOS nightly 163) and it is still performing very well. Smooth and Fast

Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth.

Cheers
[Xoom General] hochoch:
not sure why anyone would want it - but the xyboard/xoom 2 4g is on sale for $300 right now and the 8 incher is only $250

http://www.dailysteals.com/heist/5883/Xyboard-32GB-8-2-Wifi-4G-LTE

http://www.dailysteals.com/heist/5748/Motorola-Xyboard-32GB
[Xoom General] toricred:
I've had a Xoom for almost 2 years now and I loved it, but from the moment I tried a 4.2 build on it I knew I would need something newer. I bought a N10 for Christmas and the only thing I'm missing is 4G. I'm giving my wife the Xoom as her first tablet so it will always be there if I need it.
[Xoom General] chiikko561:
I just bought a zoom for 200 bucks same price as nexus 7 but being that my girl has n7 I was like f it I'll get the Xoom 32gb with expandable plus I like aluminum frame sexy HDMI port + SD port and jb I'm good

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And plus came from an Acer a100
[Xoom General] 48dodge:
I have yet to lust over another tablet. It took a long time to enjoy my xoom. Honeycomb was pretty rough on it. Not until ics did it become usable and always around. Part of the longevity for me is team eos's hard work. Now that they're starting to finally hit some limitations with the xoom (although somehow figuring their way around these limitations) I'm starting to see the writing on the wall. I will probably keep the xoom for the size and get an n7 for portability and to keep up to date with technology. Unless I drag my feet and something else comes out. I was halfway waiting on windows to see what they offered but I'm guessing it may be a while before I look that way again. If ever.
[Xoom General] freeky1:
I could not agree more 48dodge!
[Xoom General] maxnicks:
Yeah, I think I may be going the other direction. Sell the Vz 4G Xoom and buy the Nexis 7

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[Xoom General] badaas:
I chose xoom 32gb/3g hdmi out over N7 simply for more options on the xoom. as said HDMI out, larger screen, SD slot and build! Also parts are pretty cheap and easy to change (2 screws and the back slides off!).

I don't play games so don't *really* need the extra N7 power. Also read a LOT of broken screens on N7, manufacture defect, people just come back to them and the screen has popped (design flaw - some class action suit going on i believe as google refusing to fix!).

For a 3G device (easy to upgrade to 4G as said fixing is easy), with wifi and HDMI/SD, micro USB and a space frame made out of aluminium its still holds it's own. In fact I sold a new Samsung Tab 2 10.1 to get the xoom

...maybe im mad lol :)
[Xoom General] XxLordxX:
^Hope you enjoy your new Xoom :D

Did you already root it? The best thing about Xoom IMO is the development ability it has :D. Also I think it has enough power for many stuff as you already mentioned ;).
[Xoom General] stkiswr:
I'd have to say that my Xoom has been a blast. I did the conversion from 3g to 4g and use it on trips on Verizon's network. Was on eos software and moved over to cm10.1 nightlies. Runs fantastic. I'm sure a quad core tablet will run faster but I am honestly pretty happy with my Xoom. I personally like the screen and the feel of the device. Prob not getting rid of it anytime soon and having 4g when I need it is great.
[Xoom General] nubsors:
One of the things I love about the Xoom is how fast it charges and how long it holds a charge. I dread getting a new table that will take 2-3x as long to charge.
[Xoom General] 3devious:
Tonight I'll be giving my XOOM LTE to my mom. I did make her promise that she would not go past her data allowance downloading porn (I am keeping the data plan for her.)

I have been using a Surface Pro 128 and I love it. There are some things on the XOOM that I really miss (like all of the widgets I had set up. The tablet was a great dashboard for everything.) The Surface also doesn't have a good way of getting notifications for non-Microsoft stuff from the Start screen. If I want it to do all of the things I do with the XOOM, I have to be in desktop mode. I don't mind that, it's just that the Metro interface is so much faster and could be more seamless.

I love having the real OneNote and the way the device interacts with the pen just can't be beaten yet. There is a cost and the battery doesn't perform nearly as well but for me it is worth it. It is kind of what I expected of the XOOM in the first place. It definitely held me over until the Surface was ready. If they made a version of Office that performed just as well in android, I wouldn't have given the XOOM away (not even to my mom!) I really hope she doesn't eat up my data downloading porn... :eek: