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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] EndlessDissent:
Hmmm...

Yeah... I think you misread the question. Activating a phone on a different network is completely dependent on the ESN (which I learned a few posts ago). Also, his question doesn't seem to involve helping to unlock the Verizon bootloader at all.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] edgex:
See this, which you replied directly after.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] chakra:
but like the one guy said, if you already have an activated sim, it may just work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] phonefight:
My Verizon 4G LTE SIM Works with the US Cellular GS3

I bought a Galaxy S iii for U.S. Cellular used from someone. I was planning on selling it since I got it cheap, but i decided to put my galaxy nexus sim card in there for the hell of it. IT WORKS! But I warn you, it's not fully working. Here's what works:

Phone, Text Messaging, and pretty slow Data (NO 4G)

Doesn't Work: MMS (picture/video messages) 4G Data

I am pretty excited and am trying to figure out a way to get MMS and 4G Data working. For the price I paid for the phone, I'd say I got a pretty sweet deal on a GS3 that works with Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] vis0nz:
This is very untrue, I have my phones flashed from any carrier, to my network through a retail employee. Not completely sure how the process works, but I do have issues with MMS, (I have to use GoSMS for MMS) and I can not get support for my phone from customer service, as well as insurance, etc..

Although, Flashing it is the easy part, and activating it is the issue. The only reason I am able to activate is because he is a retail (Store front owner) employee with the carrier.

Flashing to Boost or Cricket is exceptionally easy with flashing and activation.

---------- Post added at 12:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:15 PM ----------

Try using GoSMS Pro, as I said (In my previous post) it is required for me to use MMS after I flash a phone to my network.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Embreykc:
help

Can someone tell me how to flash US Cellular's Samsung Galaxy Note2 to Verizon?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jrzx10r:
I am also using a usc s3 on my Verizon. But that's right no 4g or mms everything else works fine just went in a retail store he activated me a new SIM and boom. I'm going to try the go sms for the mms. But is there ANY way to get 4g working can someone help me with that plz and Thx
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jrzx10r:
Can't get go sms to work for mms still. Can I just flash a stock Verizon Rom to this phone if so can someone give me a link for 1 to use been working to try and get everything working for like 2 days on and off Thx
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jrzx10r:
Bump
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TJF2012:
I once called Verizon to see if i could activate a flashed iphone 4s. They said no because they would need the ESN number in their database which it wasn't. However, he said if it was a flashed 4g phone with the SIM card , it would be possible.

Verizon Samsung SIII

ROM: Jelly Beans 8

THEME: Magnum Cream
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TheMightyElk:
I have a US cellular GS3 and put my Verizon sim card in it. the phone works fine, data, calls and txt etc. the only issue i have is the phone wont go to 4g. 3g perfectly fine and i know the bands are the same for LTE. and i have LTE coverage from Verizon in my area.. any thoughts?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tylerwatt12:
Has anyone gotten to test the sound quality through headphones on these tablets?

I already pre-ordered and just wanted to know.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] speednub:
Apparently, it's quite bad. People are saying mp3 players have better sound quality, but I wouldn't know.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradsh1:
Pretty much every reference Tegra 3 device has abysmal headphone-out sound quality. I wish I had known this before preordering. I will certainly be returning it.

Looks like there is no way to cancel preorders, and there is a 15% restocking fee. Should not have bought into the hype :(
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fixyourtech:
You can refuse delivery.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradsh1:
Do they refund you then?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Unlawful:
You are supposed to get a refund though I'm not sure if you get a refund on the shipping fees.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CooLoserTech:
We need voodoo sound and beats ahdio

Sent on my Llama on my way to the Googleplex Center so I can get 64 Gig N7 Tab
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neok44:
from what i've been reading, voodoo and beats won't do a thing. All they do is add software, and beats is a joke, it's just an equalizer, volume+ can do the same thing from the market on any device.

the DAC is hardware, and if it sucks, it sucks.

i'm NOT an audiofile so i'm just hoping that it's good enough with my headphones and comparable to my tegra2 asus transformer which was fine for me.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oliverredfox:
According to the Jelly Bean developer notes:

developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html

So I assume that audiophiles should be able to find quality USB solutions for audio output. While it would be nice to have a quality DAC built in, this lets them cut costs for production and still appease those who want quality sound.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradsh1:
doesnt support standardized usb dacs, requires proprietary android dock. also, its onerous to have to carry around a usb fix to a hardware problem
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evonc:
I'm surprised that no one has come up with a line out cable similar to the ones for iPods albeit using the micro-sd connectors. Hopefully this will spur some development of one so that people can use external pocket amps for some decent quality audio.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jptech:
if you look at the teardown, it will be very low noise at least. They routed the pathways at the edge of the board to cut down cross talk.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bpye:
When I get my Nexus 7 I'll see if I can add support for USB DACs in my kernel, no promises though.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evonc:
Only using a pair of Etymotic HF5's and they work pretty well un-amped on the razr so far but it would be nice as I'm looking to get a pair of ATH-m50's in the near future hopefully.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragonfire353:
this review seems to say that audio is equivalent to the ipad: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/06/nexus-7-review/

not sure which ipad she's referring to though, i've only had experience with audio on the new ipad which is superb despite being a monospeaker, which is similar to the audio on the transformer prime
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Turbocom:
If the DAC is bad then we will have horrible sounds regardless.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradsh1:
The majority of reviewers are absolute morons, offering little more than subjective opinions and "this is good, this is good". Very few and far between are reviewers like GSMArena and anandtech which actually measure things. GSMArena specifically, as they do objective tests with cameras, including synthetic tests with testing posters and determining actual resolution and color reproduction in a controlled environment. And obviously audio factors into this.

Majority of reviewers will say things like "DERR, DA SOUNDS IS GOOD" or "IT MAKES NOISES?? GOOD OK". This reviewer you linked is referring to the speakers and talking about audio quality. Well, that's ridiculous. Who cares about the tiny little garbage speakers on the actual device? They are going to sound terrible no matter what. That's physics. Did you measure SPL, frequency response, harmonic distortion, power output, noise levels, ANYTHING? No? You made literally no objective measurements whatsoever? You listened with your stupid ears and gave a thumbs up? Abysmal reviewing.

Very few reviewers actually bother with scientific rigor or objective measurements anymore because they don't even understand these concepts themselves. They practically just copy and paste the press releases, stamp a thumbs up or thumbs down on it, and call it a day.

Imagine if you saw a video card review and they didn't do any benchmarks, they just said "the card is pretty. I plugged it in, and it seemed to play call of duty pretty good on high settings".
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Metallice:
If you want good audio quality the Galaxy Tab 2 and its wolfsen 1811 is far superior. That said, a tablet seems better suited for usb out and dock listening anyway. Most people probably have phones with good enough audio quality for them.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evonc:
Lol she probably found her favorite song on YouTube and played the hd version in order to test the audio quality. if it's recorded in a crappy lossy format, it will sound bad regardless of what you use as the output.

I always laugh when I see people using beats by dre hoping it will make their 256kbps mp3's sound magically good.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragonfire353:
lol
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Makaijin:
lol? Bradash1 does have a point.

I think the problem with testing audio objectively properly, is it requires additional equipment, which most reviewers don't have access to, and the blog/website/magazine won't be able to justify spending the equipment needed either. Even if they did, most reviewers wouldn't even have a clue on how to use it properly.

Whereas for say, testing a graphics card or CPU, in many cases all you have to do is install some benchmarking software, click a button, wait a few minutes, and some quantifiable number or some pretty graph shows up.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arionfrost:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/3

Ifixit's teardown shows a Realtek ALC5642 chip (some kind of Tegra 3 proprietary model). Apparently it might be some variant of what's on the HTC One X. We are well past the days of AC97, Realtek isn't all that bad anymore.

I already figured that it wasn't going to be a Wolfson. In all, it's a 7 inch tablet that is as easy on the eyes as your bank account. This isn't something you are going to take with you on a run, or use a primary music device. Neither are you going to use it a primary movie viewing device, you more than likely have a tv for that.

It's $200 people. Get a grip. You aren't paying for an Ipad 3, so why the hell are you expecting something on par with an Ipad 3? To the guy that says he is going to return it or refuse shipment, good on you. Maybe someone with appropriate expectations will be able to fully appreciate it.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evonc:
There is also a Google Issue posted about enabling usb audio on ICS/JB so perhaps if that ever gets released properly, we could definitely use other 3rd party amps/dacs in order to get a better output.

http://code.google.com/p/android/is...rs&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demandarin:
if the nexus 7 uses the same sonic master as in the prime, it will sound good. whether the speaker itself or through headphones jack. plus volume+ works wonders(it did for my prime).

I won't feed into the sound quality being bad when no one has even done extensive testing on that aspect alone yet.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradsh1:
The difference in cost between a good DAC and a bad DAC is like $1-3 in actual parts. So usually it is an oversight and less of a cost cutting measure.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Locklear308:
"Imagine if you saw a video card review and they didn't do any benchmarks, they just said "the card is pretty. I plugged it in, and it seemed to play call of duty pretty good on high settings"."

Lol.

That made my day, very good metaphor!
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
$1-3 across millions of devices sold adds up to quite a bit of money, my friend.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] walaway:
Can't wait to use my ath-m50 on the nexus 7! Pretty sweell on the oneX abd getting my hopes up on n7

Typed with XDA Premium on OneX
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] incidentflux:
I'm planning on using it as my audio center, hooked up to a a quality amp, bookshelf speakers and a sub woofer.

Is the Nexus 7 DAC really so bad? Or are the comparison standards a bit elitist?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rowanparker:
Unless you're in the EU (your profile doesn't say) where they're not allowed to charge a restocking fee.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mechtheist:
Is it really even that much these days? I had heard over a decade ago that it would really cost money to get a bad DAC, that audio frequencies/signals are too easy to reproduce perfectly [in the electronics, not speakers/transducers] so they don't really even make poor performing chips, there's no reason to. Plus, it is a pathetic reviewer that can't do a quick signal-to-noise ratio, frequency response, and distortion measurement that could point out any gross problems. I would bet pretty good money that a properly hooked up phone, even the cheapest ones, will reproduce CD quality sound out of the headphone jack.. You can get DVD burners for what, $10 nowadays?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wilko1337:
So, those who have been able to test the N7? Is the audio as bad as it has been rumored previously in the thread?

When it eventually comes, I'll do some subjective listening through my Sennheiser IE8 and see if it can handle a HD600 (doubt it aha).
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clienterror:
I'd honestly classify it as "acceptable" through a set of high end cans. It sounds better through my GFs $40 IEMs, but it sounds SUPER treble. I've installed volume+ and tweaked it some so it's better but nothing amazing. The speaker is actually pretty decent for a tablet. Honestly I'm not let down, I may try a pair of IEMs with exaggerated lower frequencies and see how they sound.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NavySpark:
I would agree with you on the acceptable area. I listen to my music through a set of Audio Technica ATH-M50's and i can tell a difference between the my laptop and the Nexus 7. It still sounds good but nothing amazing.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noobandriod:
I listen to some mp3s 320 through a pair of TripleFi 10 and it sounds decent but nothing special. Definitely not as good as a rockboxed sansa fuze that that I use for extra portable listening. And a night and day difference when compared to my desktop setup but this was expected. The the sound is kind of more muffle compared to the fuze and my desktop setup.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deaglecat:
I think audio quality may be a deal breaker for me.

Not sure if it can be answered but does anyone know whether it is better (or worse) than an Iphone 4/4S - which I consider the minimum acceptable standard ?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andrew025:
If the sound quality is the same as my gnex then I'll be happy. It can easily power my grado sr80s and they sound great.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradsh1:
I can definitively state that it will not touch the galaxy nexus as far is audio quality
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andrew025:
Ugghhh that sucks to hear.

Maybe we can get something like on the Franco kernel to increase clarity. Made a noticeable difference on the nexus.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ijeff:
Yep its worse than the Galaxy Nexus that already sounds pretty bad next to my international Galaxy S III. Not worth listening on.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BaronInkjet:
No critical tests yet, but Neutron Player sounds noticably worse than it does on my GSII -- w/S4's.

I can't get Poweramp to work. -- keeps saying "end of list."
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andrew025:
Well, been listening to music for about an hour with the Google music app and my grado sr-80s and it sounds pretty good.

Maybe I don't have magical ears or something, but it by no means sounds bad. No distortion at above 3/4 max volume and at that point it's not even comfortable to listen to at that volume.

I was expecting the sound quality to be total **** by what I've read from some other places.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WibblyW:
I find listening to my ~200Kbps VBR LAME encoded MP3's over a Bluetooth link OK to my ears. Despite the 'poor' DAC in the N7, is a standard Bluetooth link going to be the determining quality factor here do you think?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cornelious2:
from my point of view the audio from the speakers is marginal but from the headphone jack I was pleasantly surprised. normally I hear loud silliblance in most headphones since I still have a much higher upper range of hearing than most. none with the nexus, so that alone makes listening much more pleasurable.

Sent from my mopho
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lpforte:
I'm assuming you mean you are using bluetooth headphones or speakers? In that case, the DAC has no effect. A DAC is a digital-analog converter. That means it is only used when taking the digital signal from the music(or any sound) and outputting it to whatever analog outputs it has(in this case for the nexus 7 the headphone jack and the built in speakers). Since it's being transferred digitally to your bluetooth , the bluetooth device will do the job of converting the signal to analog.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dirk1978:
Sounds fine to me with my Sennheiser HD280s. Sounds about as much behind my GNex as the GNex is behind my Nexus S. It sounds better than my Xoom anyway.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WibblyW:
Yes, that's what I meant. Good news. I feared it would go via an analogue state and back to digital. So Bluetooth quality will depend in part on the Bluetooth implementation I guess.

Thanks
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] earlyberd:
So why does it cost so much more to get a good standalone USB DAC? What's so special about, say, a FiiO E7 that they couldn't just bundle one of those inside of the tablet?

It's because you're pulling numbers out of thin air. Unless you actually work for Asus and were present during the design and negotiations process, you have absolutely no clue what it would have cost to redesign the board with a better DAC.

There is a huge burden to switch to a different chip halfway through the design process. You can't just solder on a better chip and call it good, especially when these boards are mass produced at some off-site facility by people that get paid pennies per hour. If the chip isn't manufactured locally, then you're looking at multiple added costs from importation, on top of the added cost of the materials in the chip itself.

It's no accident that Asus uses the same Realtek DAC in multiple different devices, and that Samsung uses the same Wolfson DAC in multiple different devices. The manufacturers have huge distribution deals with the chip designers that help them keep their costs down, so they typically try not to break those trends until someone else can offer them an even better deal.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mutilatory:
Haven't compared, but I didn't find any immediate issues watching some anime using my Ultrasone PRO 2900s, on my desktop I use an Audio-GD NFB-3.1.

I will do a comparison later though.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradsh1:
They used the reference tegra 3 chip set. Nothing special. No design issue, no contract, none of your silly ideas. Just another reference design with no thought put in beyond that.

"Tegra 3" check.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradsh1:
To my ears the most noticeable problems are reduced dynamic range (obvious vs iPod 5.5g) and some increased harmonic distortion. Its not as bad as I expected, but it sure takes all of the pleasure out of listening to music for me. Not anything I would volunteer for when my phone is indistinguishable from my iPod 5.5g; I'll just use my phone.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mutilatory:
After comparing it isn't that bad, there is a definite reduction in the dynamic range. Also my headphones are definitely not being powered enough despite being quite low on impedance.

Overall, it works for portable but don't expect it to do for home quality as my onboard PC sound is better. If you have no choice I'd suggest you to get an optical out dock and purchase an external DAC.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donatom3:
AndoridPolice did a good article on the international One X vs the One XL. Basically the Tegra 3 has a crappy DAC.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pixelchemist:
I've tested the audio output with an RTA... the output is very flat across the board which is a good thing most mobile devices are not and are boosted in certain frequencies for headphone playback... so the nexus 7 won't sound the best on headphones but actually sounds great on a high-end stereo.... is it the best? No not at all no mobile device is... but its very good. If you think you can hear a dramatic difference between DACs and its not just device equalization (like beats audio) you are full of it and have convinced yourself that you have super human hearing.

I personally find that it sounds better than my galaxy s due to its linear response on both my home theater and sq competition car stereo.... both of which are highly tuned down to measured reflections and individual driver time alignment are are very high-end.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CooLoserTech:
Sound quality is actually surprisingly good. Not the best but good.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andrew025:
That's basically what I thought it sounded like, and I prefer it that way. Paired with my grados it sounds great to me.

I think a lot of it comes down to the headphones people are using whether or not the perceived sound is one that's acceptable to them.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sassafras_:
It would be nice if someone with the skills to take up the cause were able to pull the changes that Samsung made to the GS3 to enable USB Audio and were able to build them in to the N7 Kernel.

Shouldn't be too hard, but I wouldn't know where to start.

sassafras
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BaronInkjet:
+1
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hexdecimal:
The quality to me sounds better than expected, but then again, I use Phonak Audeos.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hafai:
I find the sound to be pretty good on my Grado SR-60s.

However, it takes about two thirds to three quarters volume on the n7 to get a decent volume out of my headphones. But 100% is too loud so I'm fine with the volume as it can reach a level that I am happy with.

I have no complaints with the audio quality so far.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fkr99:
one bright mind

I agree. the audio quality is what you expect from a mobile device. A good DAC will start around $350, this is much more than this device is built for. If you do not believe me do a Google search for audiophile DAC. I run solid state components from McIntosh with WW II era Telefunken vacuum tubes powering NHT speakers from their golden age. If you want quality audio from a digital source then use your computer and get one of those usb DAC's, they have come a long ways and make sure its asynchronous.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FTMDan:
I just want/wanted to know what the sound quality is like compared to say an iPod touch 4G? (Only portable device I can compare). If it's similar/a little worse, then I could live with that.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kiewee3:
Just give me a working dsp manager, and I'll be fine :P
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] espionage724:
How would sound quality compare on the Nexus 7 vs, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 (original; not 7 plus, 7.1, or etc) with Voodoo Audio?