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[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] pratik_s:
i think many of the people think that we r getting cm9 therefore many people are not intersted in ics provided by samsung.this is the reason why till now nobody has demanded ics from samsung in a strong way.

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@vishal24387 but what abt i9003 and i9001 if we get together we can have more power.and i think if i9000 is also capable therefore they should also get it and as the members of i9000 are large in number.therefore it can be a huge boost.

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i think there was also a petition signed for ics for our i9003 but with no results.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jan3586:
We are not a party to the 18-month agreement ( i think it is more of a commitment than a legal contract) so we cannot sue them for that. If samsung specifically said that we are getting ICS and then cancelled, then maybe we can have a chance.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] vishal24387:
Unfortunately you are absolutely right. I just googled.& come to know that giving updates within 18 months is NOT compulsary. Its a part of guideline to encourage company for providing update.

http://androinica.com/2011/05/android-updates-for-18-months/
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] chongns:
And i think, if samsung provide ics update, they need to pay google for our model to use ics
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jan3586:
Android is free from google.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] kbar1:
Vishal, in situations like this I think the right thing to do (if filing a case) is starting a class-action lawsuit. Basically it means all the people with similar complaints (read: I9003 community) can be plaintiffs in the same lawsuit. Maybe, like pratik_s said, we can bring in our cousins (I9000, I9001, etc). :D

However, if this really happens, we need a valid reason. "They didn't provide ICS" is not good enough. Maybe we could say that our phone is capable of running ICS and phones with similar hardware (e.g. Sony) have received ICS, so this is an unfair trade practice. The specs of the new QWERTY ICS phone is lesser than our phone's, so that's one point.

Keep in mind that if this ever goes to court, it could take months to settle. By that time, Google would have released Key Lime Pie...

Edit: I did some searching and found out that Samsung had started work on ICS for our device, but apparently canceled it.

[what-is-android.info]

[androidadvices.com]

[www.androidauthority.com]
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] vishal24387:
there is no point in starting a class-action lawsuit. Really its painful but we dont have any strong point to demand ICS from samsung. As I already stated that there is NO binding on samsung about giving ICS to us even within 18 months. We have to understand that its their moral responsibility but not a compulsion. So we have to forget about official ICS update.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Schu-:
Sure

Yes, surely we have RIGHT TO DEMAND ICS UPDATE, SAMSUNG is market-manipulation master, justify no update for our phone for hardware limit ( CM9 dont work on our phone, CM9 dont work on our phone,CM9 dont work on our phone,CM9 dont work on our phone LOL [its a sarcasm]) and product CPU-600Mhz phone ICS without anyproblem, and a stupid people defend it with story about hardware limit, any society must update their phone.

but:

if their update old phone, no one will buy its new phone, easy no?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sgsI9003:
Its corporate greed by samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Din7077:
Why we need to legalize while we can get the illegal one? :p
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] coolpix90:
maybe they can get only 3.x kernel.. it will be great the same
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jsp1984:
It isn't illegal to change the OS from your mobile. You bought the product, you can change it the way you want. The thing is that by doing that you lose the warranty...i say: **** warranty! Install whatever you want...and use your phone till it explote, then buy a new one!

If anybody know: Would it be possible to install Boot to Geck or the Firefox html5 based SO?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] kbar1:
Thanks, but I still have a doubt. Doesn't this nasty habit of Samsung's qualify as "violation of consumer rights" or "unfair trade practices" or something?

And oh, some of us still have the phone under warranty, so wouldn't it be illegal to stop providing updates before 1yr is over? Would that count as lack of access to latest updates?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] iAmBalvinder:
samsung clearly mentions that new updates for any devices will only be provided at sole discretion of the company. At it doesn't matter of your device is still not one year old or has supported specs for Ics.

For instance, I even own a htc sensation which I just bought I'm april, and rather its still not a discontinued model, and it supercedes the requirement for ics or jellybean, and almost every corner of the world has official ics ota, but no one can force a company to update the firmware of device. in other parts of world, where devices are locked with carrier, out increases the hassle for the manufacturer to collaborate with carrier and release the update, but still india having no such restrictions had not released for htc sensation. (mostly because out surely will hamper the sales of one series).

Similar its with samsung, out might hamper the sales of other devices, or might result in a cartel formation for the left over handsets in the market, as happened with i9000.when samsung announced that our will provide ics update, bit late refused to give the updates.

@vishal: I suppose its not binding on the manufacturer to release threw official updates for any devices, so filing a case is out of question.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] iAmBalvinder:
Sorry for the typos, I think I'll have to change the speed vs accuracy settings. After reading out, I realize there are a lot of errors. :banghead:

Press thanks if helped :)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] preshit10:
I am not sure if it is legal but one thing is for sure, Samsung is bullying its customers to no extent. I do not even want their crappy updates, all full of bugs. The S2 had a pretty stupid update that looked same like GB which they claimed to be ICS. Whats the use of having the same UI and only upgrading the source code? We always have CM9 and soon CM10!:laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] vishal24387:
I have an idea. (I know its very stupid idea)

We all will pay extra amount to official samsung developers so that at least we can get a working bootable 3.x kernel from them :D

I know its just my stupid imagination.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Hetalk:
Agree ....

.. that it is a s2pid imagination.

j/k .. pl dont mind.

Again, on topic, I dont think we could have a legal right to ask for an update, at all. There is no legal binding(google just provides a guideline) here, as far as i know.

But, I have a feeling inside, that samsung might still come in and provide an ICS update for us, once SGS3 is done and dusted (around Christmas).
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bscraze:
Yes definitely, it's not stable yet so not many people have tried. I rmb seeing some other developers work on it in its early stages, i just lost interest though :p
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] chongns:
+1 to this, any samsung softwave developer (kernel 3.0 development), you can pm vishal, offer your price. :p

once we received you work, and verify and test by our 9003 kernel developers, than if the kernel is all right, we will start a donation to your wage.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] pratik_s:
but who knows abt official samsung developers for our device.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] chongns:
they know theyself are, :D, like you know who you are.;), so if there are really samsung developer contacted our community member, please :X
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jaggivasu:
Info frm samsung

After seeing Vishal's post , I mailed samsung regarding the ICS update for our phones. Just to see what happens. This is what they replied

We are sorry for the inconvenience caused to you.

This is in reference to your email received on date 10-July- 2012, regarding updation of your mobile software to Ice cream sandwich 4.0.

We would like to inform you that currently we do not have any official information regarding the launch of Ice cream sandwich version 4.0.Therefore; we are not in position to give you any information about the same.

Any update in this regard will be posted on our website www.samsung.com/in so kindly stay with us till official release.

Regards,

Technical Support Team

Samsung India Electronics Pvt. Ltd.

Looks like we have to make use of custom ICS roms as of now which by they way are brilliant !
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] vishal24387:
Can u please tell me what is email id of samsung??? I also want to email to samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jaggivasu:
I mailed the customer support first. They replied back asking me to go through the link :http://www.samsung.com/in/support/erms1

The 3rd step is where the email is sent. The email is sent from the samsung site itself, so I do not have the mail id. However the reply to the query was from the following mail id : dear_customer@contactus.samsung.com

I am not sure if we can mail them directly, but there is no harm in trying :)
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
Email from Verizon.

As soon as I get a chance to go through it, I will post my opinion of the thing compared to my Rezounds.
[HTC Rezound] Thadrow:
Dont forget verizon locked the bootloader, unless you dont root to care .
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
There's a successful root method. And it looks like there'a a real chance of circumventing the bootloader lock.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
if you wanna get insurance on it, PM me about Protect Cell. it'll be cheaper than buying it through Verizon..just go read the thread about the dude who lost his rezound, he has protect cell and loves it.
[HTC Rezound] Damasterjj:
OK i want to know how good the radio and gps signal
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Ill buy best buys gsp with my discount.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
lol wasn't talking to you, anyway :p but have fun with that! i'd never give best buy any of my money, but to each their own lol
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
I wanna know about the radios.

ReZound
[HTC Rezound] BBEgo:
Me too.

Think my girl is gonna wind up with my Rezound, and I'll probably get the GS3.

I just hope it's a development friendly phone.
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
I don't think it's gonna be dev friendly, at least according to chainfire
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Same. I have asked in the GSIII forum and nobody wants to answer me.
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
I started this thread over at Android Central. It's a bit inconclusive, but I'd say it's tending towards weaksauce.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...receiving-your-phone-how-signal-strength.html
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Oh wow.

ReZound
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
Yeah now mine's on it's way. Trust Verizon to screw things up. I was going to keep it and give my wife my rezound but, Oh well maybe I can sell it and get enough for an incredible 4g for the wife.
[HTC Rezound] luke1333:
mine will be here in the morning and i would sure hope the samsung devs can get it unlocked i mean look at the rezound everybody thought it was dead in the water with s-on but they proved them wrong. can sammy devs do it?
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Been hanging out in the GSIII verizon dev IRC and they definitely are working very hard on these issues.
[HTC Rezound] luke1333:
Yeah I know they aren't although I haven't checked irc out. I just have to believe they will eventually find a way. Any good news in irc??
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
I dk yet, this phone is friggin weird. The way it works makes my head hurt. the aboot.img file is constantly changing and writing new information, but messing with certain parts of it makes the phone not boot.

I don't know who invisible is, but he is a beast so far. He just really doesn't seem to have any help from any real devs that actually have the phone yet. I see things changing very fast once more people get the phone in their hands the next few days.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
well i mean, having to use toys due to the lack of size/girth in your genital area would do that to anyone.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
I never said you didn't need a microscope to see it. But my arm, fit like a gloooove. (Ace Ventura Voice)

:p
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
damn, we both took one for our respective teams in trying to burn eachother...

we must call a ceasefire.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
What you don't walk up to random girls and tell them you are sorry, but it is so small it wouldn't please a hamster, and next thing you know you have her number?

I have far to many times, and I always walk away saying "dafuq?" with the face on the left.

My friends don't get it, and neither do I...
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
hmm...i know you're trolling me by trying to get me to actually do this, but the results, if true, seem remarkable...i'm intrigued...
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Haha, it does work. I just find it funny, because if you say it, and say it with absolute confidence, it makes people insanely uncomfortable.

I then said it once on a bet to an extremely attractive girl I thought I'd have no chance with anyway. I walked away with her number and $50. I dk if she felt sorry for me, or what, but it definitely is easier to get her to talk than using a stupid pick up line. Specially when the last thing they expect you to say is that.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
i'd rather say things like, "hey do you buy your pants on sale? because at my place, they'd be 100% off."
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
ehhh, that is to much work. They only need to be 25% off to get the job done.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
hahah i give it my all!
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
That's cause HTC gave us dev unlock. If they didn't this phone would of died a looooong time ago.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
**** if HTC will I'm sure Sammy will. AFAIK, they're more dev friendly.

ReZound
[HTC Rezound] luke1333:
Soff was not the same as unlocked boot loader no where near the same. HTC had nothing to do with that get your facts straight
[HTC Rezound] luke1333:
Hmm guess I'll find out when I get my hands on the puppy tomorrow lol
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
That is always a possibility. Just have to wait and see. I personally don't care for the s3, but I hope it works out for those that pick one up :D.:good:

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You do know that in order to get s-off you NEED dev unlock. Unless jbear came up with another method? If not, seems YOU need to get your facts straight. :rolleyes:. If sammy does give the method for an unlocked BL or w/e it is they do to lock their crap down enjoy!
[HTC Rezound] SightSeeker:
Posting on mine now. I sold my rezound on ebay for 275 already. I love this phone. Better battery than the rz with extended battery. I'm rooted already on Verizon I'm not worried about the bootloader they will get around that for sure. The one thing I can give to the rezound is I think I like the whites of the screen better. Maybe I'm not used to this one yet. I will trade that any day for the awful battery and heat issues. Maybe I had a dud but I tried every rom out I think and only the gb roms didn't give me issues. I've been on the gs3 for an hour straight and have gone down 4% and cool to the touch.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
I would imagine you could temp root and run bear but IDK
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
No bootloader had to be unlocked.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
ok then lol
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
Looks like they worked around the bootloader with kexec. It's not a neat or tidy solution, but it'll work for now.

Game on!

Edit: Lol, wut? RIL is fixed for AOSP already???

<@noobnl> ril is fixed.. stiltzkin

[00:22] == Tepifan [~AndChat43@2600:1000:b017:ad90:3512:9360:c0ab:141e] has joined #verizons3

[00:22] <@noobnl> i fixed it

[00:22] <stiltzkin> RIL is fixed for AOSP?

[00:22] <@noobnl> yup

[00:22] <stiltzkin> ...

[00:22] <stiltzkin> how?

[00:22] <Juggalotus> holy **** lol

[00:22] <Juggalotus> that was fast

[00:22] * Sneakysolidbake ****s a brick

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/18352/
[HTC Rezound] armchairbear:
A buddy of mine just got the Sprint GS3. It does look nice and it feels nice because it's so thin. Without a case, the GS3 is as wide as my rezound with a case. I don't like wide phones cuz of small hands. So if I were to get a GS3 and a case, my hands won't be happy.

Playing with the phone a little, didn't seem any faster when loading apps, running apps, screen scrolling compared to the rezound. The speakers seemed plenty loud enough. The camera was really good. However, it's 3G reception at his house was bad (no 4G for sprint yet). Not sure if this is because of sprint or the phone. I was get great 4G and 3G reception.

Don't get me wrong, it seems like a really nice phone. I was experiencing a little phone envy seeing it in person. If I were in the market for a phone today, I would get it.

Since I already have the rezound, I'll wait to see how real life battery life is on the 2100mah. Since the GS3 is already wide, I don't want to make it thicker with an extended battery. It's hard to give up the all-day battery life I get with my rez with ext batt. Also, I'll wait to see how the reception is for the verizon version. I'm already getting great reception with the rez.

I'm sure it will be much more dev friendly than the rezound. That I am very jealous of.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
This just settles that I am taking back the ipad 3 I barley use and getting this phone. Managed to use the rezound with a semi locked down bootloader for awhile, can do the same here.

If they can get aosp and root and whatnot BEFORE the effing release date of the phone...

Also for battery life, I've seen reports of 12+ hours with 5 hour screen on time. That is insane.
[HTC Rezound] Damasterjj:
which ipad model do you have?
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
The new ipad. I just returned it. Now I am annoyed because best buy is releasing the phone on the 12th. Wouldn't bother me if I didn't have a store credit with them I need to use.
[HTC Rezound] Damasterjj:
My white SG3 32gb arrives today, I'm debating whether I should sell it or keep it. I even though about trading it with a Ipad 3
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
Why? Why in the hell would you trade a galaxy s 3 for a piece of **** iPad? Like, why?
[HTC Rezound] Damasterjj:
well I decided to burn my upgrade and keep rezound. I don't think I need two phones... thats why:)
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
nobody needs a tablet, either.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
uh oh, who else knew this would happen to some people?

http://www.androidcentral.com/new-g...-double-check-your-data-plan-after-activating
[HTC Rezound] derek4484:
If you want Dev-friendly I think you'll need to get a GSM International phone or the AT&T version.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
I thought you were going to say for buying it outright. I was like sweet a reason to get out of my ETF!
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
w ww.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/wa9de/f*ck_you_verizon_f*ck_you/

some more fun stories of GS3 people

anyone elses order get 'cancelled' today?

crap, copy and paste this and put the explicitives int here yourself lol the curse blocker blocked it
[HTC Rezound] Damasterjj:
Got mine today and I'm selling it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1761450
[HTC Rezound] :
At least we know what phone all the trolls went to.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Lol...

Don't worry ill be gone soon too if Verizon doesn't keep pushing the release date back.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
I for one am happy that most of the aosp loving annoying asshats in here are leaving for the s3.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
Haha nah, not you. You were always cool :)
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Yeah you mean me lol :thumbdown:
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
A thanks for your use of the thumbs down icon lol :p
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Haha yeah yeah here is a :beer: for your trouble.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Definitely not just you lol.

ReZound
[HTC Rezound] Marcismo55:
Yeah buddy!

Ok cool. I was happy we got any roms on the Rezound to begin with!

I received my S3 about 30 minutes ago. It's sleeping right now on the charging until I put it through its paces.
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
What's the ETA on you leaving?
[HTC Rezound] luke1333:
Phone is fast as can be lol on power saver mode too
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
man that phones gigantic. lol
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
I'm jelly :(

ReZound
[HTC Rezound] JeramyEggs:
Why are people asshats for liking aosp? I mean people rave about sense 4, but nobody tells them that they should have bought a phone with sense 4 on it?
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
the annoying AOSP lovers are asshats because they trolled this forum for months on end, complaining that sense sucks, and the only reason they bought this phone (a sense phone, mind you) is because they were hoping they'd get AOSP...then they continued to cry when they didn't get it, and annoyed every single user on this forum.

and that, son, is the story of the Aosp Asshat
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
This phone is a monster. Incredibly fast, and feels amazing in your hand. I kinda hate the physical home button though.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
I buy HTC phones for the hardware, not for sense. Sorry I wanted to buy a well made phone...
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
lol but when there's people who, in almost every thread, complain that "wahhhh sense sucks wahhhhh" despite the fact they bought a phone they knew damn well would have sense, and that having 4G would be an issue with RIL, still complain like a bunch of asshats, it gets reaaaaaally annoying.
[HTC Rezound] Marcismo55:
Yes this phone is pretty damn big but it actually is easier to hold/handle than the Rezzy. A lot to get used to with this thing.

Sense will always be my first love...my got to add on. I don't understand what all the hate is about. :silly:
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
you keep the rezound? it's cool to have 2 phones :cool:
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
It's bigger in your hand, but feels much much better. I keep checking my pocket for my phone, it's so freaking light.

As for Sense--lol. As obnoxious and overdone as Touchwiz is, this phone screams. I've never used a Sense-based phone that felt this fast.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
yay, an AOSP complainer is leavinggg! ;)
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
Yay, another comment from jayochs saying the exact same thing he's said 30 times today! How exciting.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
i know, right!? it's great. can't wait for the mass exodus!

oh, there's 31!! :)
[HTC Rezound] rileyd5:
You guys are hilarious. I dare say entertaining. And when the next big thing hits the market you guys will all be jumping again. lol. It's a disease. really :)
[HTC Rezound] Marcismo55:
Yes and no haha. I'm selling the Rezound just because of the speed Tekhna is speaking of. It's kind of crazy how bloated this thing is and still manages to not hiccup. It will be very difficult physically and hardware wise to go back to the Rezzy.

If only HTC made the Nexus I could have the best of both worlds all over again like my OG Incredible. :good:
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii

hahahaha wow.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
That's big red for you. It's so they can keep track of the modders and thoroughly check them lol.

ReZound
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
that's samsung though...verizon won't keep track because it's being sold through sammy for 600 bucks
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Yeah but Verizon will be happy because they don't have anything to do with the warratny replacement phones.
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
I'm still trying to figure out what I'm supposed to dislike about pentile displays. It's not going to so well.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
I've never had a problem with them. Had the bionic and gnex that both have em. Never hated em.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
if you have crazy good eyesight like I do, you can see the individual pixels in pentile. that's annoying to me.. hence why the nexus screen to me isn't as nice as the rezound. nexus screen also has a yellow tint eww
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
I know, I mean it's spotlight on those specific people. Verizon and it's insecurity with letting people tinker. So it's not on Verizon to fix them. They could of just let Sammy unlock it like every other company.

ReZound