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[HTC EVO 3D] eXplicit815:
First of all, the only definitive answer to this is that a person who is higher up in the food chain (Sprint Executive John Tudhope VP of Product David Owens) did slip out that it would be coming in mid-June. This was on Engadget. Granted, it's still not here, but this could've been misinterpreted by him to mean mid-July. The fact is, Sprint stands to lose A LOT if they don't release this update. Why it's taking so long, no one really knows.

Second, you're right in the fact that the increase is imminent. They even state when you buy the phone, and you must agree to it, that the insurance and deductible do go up for the phone.

Third, while this may be the place to talk about it, creating ANOTHER thread about a date where there still isn't ICS for the EVO 3D isn't exactly the way to go about it. I understand the frustration from many people about cluttered forums. This probably isn't a necessary thread. This should have, instead, been posted HERE.
[HTC EVO 3D] xblackvalorx:
I mean look at the title and its enough. No ics for evo and a date

Like he's Sprints ceo announcing it? Every one is aware that no one has any real clue when we're getting it. But it's about ninety percent sure we are.

Kthxbye another thread on the subject is never needed again, but we'll have three within the hour.
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
Sprint isn't going to lose anything by not releasing the update.. what do you think they are going to lose?

You can follow me on Twitter - @NotSo1nter3stin
[HTC EVO 3D] NineInchNails:
Fact is HTC has already put out ICS. Therefore they have to provide source and will for it. We don't need the official Sprint update. Just source. When that happens you'll see. Doesn't matter what Sprint does now at this point. We need kernel source which they have yet to provide but will and have to.

E=MC420
[HTC EVO 3D] eXplicit815:
Educate yourself.

Both Sprint and HTC are listed there. And to top it off, with an Executive (My apologies, this was actually David Owens, VP of Product that stated this) saying on a very well-known blog (on a video none-the-less), that the update is coming, I think that's a lot to look out for.
[HTC EVO 3D] Wired4Fun:
How will you see it, if they don't do it??

Having been very satisfied with using MeanRom Gingerbread on my Evo 3D, I didn't know if I would like moving to ICS, but now I absolutely love it. After all, I could get nearly 2 days out of my battery with the cpu tweaks available for the GB ROMs, which are not available for ICS kernels yet.

That being said, from what I have been reading, it is a safe bet that your Evo3D will never see an OTA update from Sprint, and if you want ICS, you're gonna need to root your phone.

After being so impressed with MeanRom (GB), I decided to tryout the MeanRom ICS version, but the battery life is really not very good, and the phone seemed to lag terribly at times. I was holding out hope this would be improved, but considering the developer has recently purchased a Evo 4G LTE, I think he is moving on, and I have given up hope on this ROM. I considered going back to GB, but decided to try two other ICS ROMs that I really like. They are lightning quick, and have excellent battery life. First is Cool ICS, which has built in Beats Audio, and makes a surprising difference via Bluetooth to a Bose Soundlink (which is awesome, by the way).

The other ROM that I am fond of, but seems to be lacking a few features is the NegaLite BluRom ICS. I wanted to send a request to the developer, but unfortunately, I am unable to do so until I get 10 posts, so I guess this is why you had to see me ramble away on this reply.
[HTC EVO 3D] zcink:
Its getting mighty chilly in here.

Me thinks the zero tolerance rules are about to kick in.
[HTC EVO 3D] akiradavis:
I usually optimistic regarding updates, especially with Sprint (HTC is ok, i feel someone in HTC is the source of our VM leak in the first place). However recently I've been feeling this phone is slowly becoming a bastard child for HTC/Sprint. They want to forget how they weren't able to hit their sales mark with this device and they are looking towards the future (One Series).

In a business sense, ICS will not give Sprint their ROI if they were to spend time delivering it as an OTA. They will rather allocate their limited man-power to supplement their latest and greatest devices. Sadly, its just business, and there's nothing we can do about it since we're sadly slaves to the Tele-gods.

Personally, now that I know I love rooting/hacking/modifying my phone, I know my next purchase will be a Nexus device that will bypass Telecoms entirely.

---------- Post added at 10:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:26 AM ----------

I've been doing some searches regarding that 18-month upgrade cycle Google mentioned last year in their I/O conference. Sadly it was a hollow promise:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...nt-get-an-upgrade-to-ice-cream-sandwich/17295

:rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] NineInchNails:
Again we don't need Sprints update. Just HTC's source which they will provide. This is all useless.

E=MC420
[HTC EVO 3D] troyboytn:
Can we please get this worthless thread closed. On top of everything else that has been said, I do not believe that any of this information came from CS but from the OP's mind. This is nothing but a classic troll thread......
[HTC EVO 3D] akiradavis:
Heres a question that I feel the people who dealt with HTC since the Hero days will be able to answer.

Will HTC release the source of an update without the carrier releasing it first?

From what I remember, the process usually goes like:

XDA gets the leak without source --> Carrier finally pushes out OTA --> HTC releases source.

So from the flow, it appears it has to be officially on our phone before HTC releases the source code.

Again, this is a question not a statement. Someone please drop the knowledge.
[HTC EVO 3D] XandroidX:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=28498442
[HTC EVO 3D] zcink:
Question on this:

What are the laws/rules? Once an official release has been done are now under obligation by law to provide the kernel source?

Please Advise,

Thanks.
[HTC EVO 3D] NineInchNails:
Virgin released ICS for the 3D. So there's where we will get the source we need since THEY HAVE TO provide source for it. So they will. When? Who knows but they have to. Been doing this since the Hero with the Hero.

We don't need Sprints garbage. Just HTC's 3.0 kernel source. A lot of you are confused as to what it takes.

E=MC420
[HTC EVO 3D] NineInchNails:
Per GPLv2 they have to. And they do. It's just a matter of time.

E=MC420
[HTC EVO 3D] oohaylima:
Ah the Hero. Has it really been that long? Good times.
[HTC EVO 3D] notasimpleway:
Hell yea it was good times! That phone was so fun to develop things for. And has had a long life. Sprint still sells it! My only complaint about the Hero was the Grey body. I prefer a black phone.

Sent from my iPhone with the bigger GeeBees.
[HTC EVO 3D] bsoplinger:
Are you sure it will be a 3.0 kernel? After all, they only used Sense 3.6 and not 4.0 which they are keeping for the One series devices. Couldn't it just be a 2.9 (or whatever was the last version) instead?

Sent from my Sprint Evo View 4G (PG41200) using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[HTC EVO 3D] NineInchNails:
Yes. The VM release is a 3.0 kernel by them. So therefore it has to be the 3.0 kernel source and toolchains they used to build it per GPLv2. And they will. Sprint would do nothing different to the kernel in their package. So that's why an official update is useless from them. HTC does this for every device. They release the software but wait awhile to release source for it. Hardly do you see source with it right away.

So quit the whining. ICS source will be provided by HTC when they feel like it.

E=MC420
[HTC EVO 3D] Arceo85:
The reason for this post

The reason for this post is to inform the public of the increases in insurance and deductable if you dont belive me call sprint customer service and ask. I would also like for you to also mention ics for evo 3d and share this information with us. Also my only question is, if thare is no ics for this phone what are wee evo 3d users are going to do about it? Also when i asked sprint if i would be able for an early upgrade, because we are not getting ics they said no. Realty is they dont owe us anithing so what are we going to do, or what can we do? Any brite ideas?:confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] notsointeresting:
Lol dude. It doesn't matter. Who cares what they said. So if they don't release it what WILL they lose? A few angry customers? We're in the minority here most people don't pay attention to these updates. Sprint does not lose a penny if they don't release it. "But the VP of product said..." ....and I'm sure everything the VP of any company has been COMPLETELY honest /sure of what they were saying the entire time :rolleyes:

Oh and I know what your talking about ,anyone on these forums constantly has seen everything posted. But thanks ...:banghead:

Oh and I never said I didn't believe an update was coming all I asked was why you thought they had "A LOT to lose"...politely I thought :confused:

Sorry...I don't like people telling me to "educate myself"

Sent from Tapatalk 2
[HTC EVO 3D] zcink:
Maybe I'm reading it wrong but sure sounds like your trying to incite a riot.

Its just a phone and who really cares? The roms on here are already far better than you would get from an official release from Sprint with all their bloatware.

This thread needs to be locked and disposed of.
[HTC EVO 3D] Keion:
Everyone's getting mad. Jpeg

Sent from my 3d porn machine.
[HTC EVO 3D] kiewee3:
PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING!

Don't post a post as pointless as this thread.

Everyones saying 'let's close this thread' 'your just trying to start an argument' and it needs to stop. If nobody posts in this thread anymore there would be no issue at all. If the OP was 'just trying to start an argument' then he succeeded. Now I agree this ICS thread was unneeded, but if nobody posted in it, then it would NOT be a problem.

Thread 'almost' closed.
[HTC EVO 3D] Arceo85:
No i do not want to start a riot, what i would like is for all evo 3d users to stand together and complain to sprint for an early upgrade if posible or if any one has an idia of how to get an early upgrade on a smart phone. Also i am using mikvergin rom, and its really a god rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] eXplicit815:
First, don't take the "Educate Yourself" the wrong way. I'm not hostile. But simply reading what happens, and knowing what big companies promise and don't keep promises for will tell you what they have to lose. Sprint has NEVER been a company to keep phones updated. They're always the last (with the exception of the iPhone for obvious reasons) to get updates. They're focus is off for sure. If you have an Executive, Vice President, CEO, etc say that they will be releasing an update, it means that people will expect it. And if people expect something that's told to them (which, even at a CSR level has continued to be told to customers), they stand a lot to lose whether it be customers, money, stock price, etc. I'm only a Sprint customer because I have a SERO plan. That's it. They're slowly making something of themselves with this transition to Network Vision, but can't afford to go backwards because they can't deliver the stuff they say they will.

I just don't like when people say, "Well, they break their promise, then what do you do about it." Because A LOT can be done about it. Maybe nothing if you're simply calling and complaining to your CSR over the phone (which in some cases will get you somewhere with an early upgrade if you know how to talk to them), but sending emails to corporate contacts, filing complaints with the BBB, canceling your lines of service and going to other companies... It all affects Sprint. I've moved on from the EVO 3D, myself. I had an upgrade available, and I used it to get the EVO 4G LTE. You better believe that if we don't see upgrades for this hardware (especially because of it's reputation as HTC's One-Series device), I'm going to raise hell about it. My EVO 3D is still on my account under my wife's line, so I'm still concerned of the update and it's release date.
[HTC EVO 3D] NineInchNails:
Enough already. Too out of hand the way it is. If we're talking upgrade that's reasonable and has a good point about it. But honestly that's for stock users. This is XDA. What's stock? We will have complete ICS 3.0 kernel source. Then the magic happens even more than what has been achieved already.
[HTC EVO 3D] Arceo85:
I would like to know if they change your insurance plan from 8 dollars to 11 and if you do an insurance claim will they charge you 200 dollars deductable? On that 4g lte
[HTC EVO 3D] zcink:
A Contract

Did you know that whenever you sign a contract you have the legal right to cross out things you don't agree with and even write in things you want in there?

I know when you sign a contract with a cell phone company its all printed up in triplicate and all. But legally you have the right to add to it or take away from it.

Now if you write in that you demand upgrades to the phone during the time your contract is in effect and you don't get them, you can cancel your contract for non compliance.

Its doubtful that the service rep will agree to it anyway but if he does, its binding.

If its not in your contract that you will receive upgrades then you can demand nothing.

There are other companies out there. You don't have to deal with anyone of them. It matters not what someone says on a blog or in an interview or video --- its what is in your contract that you agreed to and signed that matters.
[HTC EVO 3D] eXplicit815:
My insurance does go up to $11/month. And the deductible does go up, but it's either $150 or $200, can't remember.
[HTC EVO 3D] edufur:
Can we get an infraction count in here? :cowboy:
[HTC EVO 3D] NineInchNails:
<-- 0

e=mc420
[HTC EVO 3D] eXplicit815:
There's one for trolling.
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Hi.

So this has been an interesting read today. Also very ironic. Ironic because I have been on the phone today with sprint most of the day, and I also asked them about this.

I was told that the 3D will get ics as well as the insurance wasn't changing. I asked specifically because I have the insurance. I also only ever call executive services.

Now what does this mean? Absolutely nothing. Sprint reps usually say different things. It's extremely common for them to spread different ideas, none of which are true. Until we get another press release or public announcement that it isn't getting it, it's safe to assume that we are.

Also you should listen to Trent Reznor he knows what he is talking about. Source will have to be released for the vm builds. Plus we still have some cool devs doing work on this phone, so don't count them out.

Besides who needs an official update, I've been using ics since the leak. :cyclops:

Oh, and really we don't need any more of these threads, if everyone posts a thread after they talk to a Sprint rep....... Oh god, that would be just :silly:

In before the lock?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doodlerdroid:
Like I mention in my title, Odin only detect my Samsung Galaxy Pocket S5300 when the power is off.

In a meanwhile:

• Odin cannot detect in Download mode.

• KIES is able to connect, detect & do the backup.

• I've tried many versions of Odins.

• Odin(s) is able to detect other phone (Galaxy Mini S5570).

• PC could detect the driver and do the file transfer.

Why only when the power off id:com turns into yellow (or green in Odin 3) ????

Help please... THANKS
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stempanssi:
Hi!

What do you think about the resolution of 1280 by 800, is that enough/good? I know this is in most tablets out there but should I think of buying tf700 because its fullHD screen.

Sent from my Optimus 2X
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RolloJarvis:
I was originally worried it was going to be too low but having owned the tablet for a few months now I can say that its fine. Its obviously not going to look as crisp as a FHD screen but the ppi is already much higher than most laptops nowadays (which have 1280*768 on a larger screen).

If you are still concerned I would advise that you try out this tablet or the other transformers in a shop for a good hour, with all types of use.

I would also say that the only time I really notice any pixelisation is on the home screen, and when reading very small text. You probably couldnt really tell the difference between 1280*800 and 1080p when playing games or watching movies. As already stated in an infinity thread on the general section, this tablet will likely perform better than the infinity due to having a very similar CPU and the same GPU yet less pixels to push.

Good luck with you decision.
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bboymiau:
i think it s all abouth the price/performance ratio.. a FHD res is always better
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stempanssi:
Thank you very much I think I'm going for the tf300 :D

Sent from my Optimus 2X
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Ramzi619:
So I was following a tutorial on how to put stock fw on the t959v but the files he provided was not for the t959v but the vibrant. So I got the phone stuck into boot loop, after hours of trying to get out of it it finally switched from boot looping to an alternate download mode. I didn't even need to hold the keys to get it into download mode I just had to turn on the phone.

Anyways I followed this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1603656&highlight=firmware+upgrade+fail

which lead me to this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21953878&postcount=2

And that got me out of the alternate download mode. But now its stuck at boot loop again!

I keep trying using odin but it always fails or goes into another boot loop. Please help, this isn't even my phone. :(
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Ramzi619:
Okay now the phone is stuck in a constant boot loop and I can't get it into download mode. The amount of threads I read don't help at all because the solution is in download mode which I can't get into. :(

PLEASE HELP SOMEBODY!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] solrac1212:
Follow and Download lumins30 heimdall one click stock
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lumin30:
Please please give bhundven the namesake for the One-Click as he made it for us. I wrote the guide ONLY. I don't want to see it called lumin30's Heimdall One-Click. Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Ramzi619:
I did use heimdall, but thats what got my phone in a constant boot loop. Now it won't even boot up in download mode. I think it may be bricked. What can I do now?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lumin30:
You tried the three button combo to get in download mode?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Ramzi619:
three button? I tried the volume up+down and inserting the USB cable. It goes straight to the charging screen then a black screen, then back to the charging screen.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
That's not the way. Pull battery, plug phone into computer via usb, hold down BOTH volume buttons, insert battery(while still holding down the volume buttons). That will get you to DL mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Ramzi619:
Tried it, no luck :/ Same thing happens I see the charging screen (grey'd out) then it goes black, and then I see the charging screen again.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] twisted03:
Actually this will work as long as you are holding the buttons and plugging the phone in at the same time and wait til the splash screen gets bright then let go...there are three different ways to get into download mode...you and also do it from cwm screen too...

Back on Barebones
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Ramzi619:
Anymore input? I'd really like to get those phone running again, seeing as it's not mine. I'm guessing it's bricked since I can't get it into download mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Ramzi619:
Finally got it to work! Got it into download mode by holding down the volume down button and power button while inserting the battery. The mistake was holding down both volume keys, I guess that only works sometimes. After download mode I downloaded the file

"java -jar T959VUVKJ6_STOCK-UVKJ6-One-Click.jar" located in Lumins signature (second link) and flashed, after that the phone started boot looping again. So I tried it again this time clicking "flash bootloaders" and voila! The phone booted up and now it works!

Thanks everyone for the help! I'll be sure to click the thanks button!

Hope this post helped out other people with my problem!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lumin30:
Good job!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] mizukage:
hi guys is it possible for us to have free internet on our mobile phone just by using tun.ko?i'm from philippines w/ JP version of the phone, meaning form middle east phone..tnx:laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] marshygeek:
Yes probably at some Roms w/c supports tun.ko. Google it DroidVpn its in the Market.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thomas15v:
If i buy the nexus 7 in Amerika, can i use it in Belgium without problems later?

A friend of me has recommended, that i don not buy it from there because i wouldn't be able to download the dutch content (if it becomes available). And would have serious language and keyboard problems.

But if i change the ro.product.locale.region and ro.product.locale.language from build.prop to EU and nl. Would that not solve the problem?

Sorry, for bad English.

thanks, thomas

(just close this threath if i did something wrong :()
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theoneofgod:
It will work fine.

BTW it's "American"
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thomas15v:
Ah, ok. I would buy it from someone who goes to there for work, also it is much cheaper there.

Oh no, I got that wrong on my exam. I think i would never forget this :p.
[Nexus 7 General] pclov3r:
Is the Nexus 7 one of the most of the anxious devices you have purchased?

Is the Nexus 7 one of the most of the anxious devices you have purchased?

For me, yes
[Nexus 7 General] AZImmortal:
I answered yes but mostly because it's the first thing I've ever pre-ordered, which instantly makes it the longest I've ever had to wait to receive a shiny new toy.
[Nexus 7 General] freesoul27:
Second most anxious device (after Nexus One).
[Nexus 7 General] 150pilot:
I dunno, but when I get mine I'll ask it.:p
[Nexus 7 General] nandihno:
As anxious as when I first got my iPad 1 ;)
[Nexus 7 General] mparack:
Don't know. Google hasn't specified it's anxiousness so hard to say :confused: . I am anxious about receiving it though :D
[Nexus 7 General] Rock-&-Roll-Hedgehog:
I hope it isn't too anxious because I have no idea how I would safely administer Valium to it. I'm fairly happy to be getting it though.
[Nexus 7 General] CooLoserTech:
More anxious than when I was going to get my iPad
[Nexus 7 General] movieaddict:
first real android tablet!! waiting is killing me!
[Nexus 7 General] jabsys:
I don't pre-order stuff because I'm very impatient, this is the first time I've pre ordered anything and the wait it is killing me.
[Nexus 7 General] revmra:
I specified that I wanted one that was already on Xanax. :)
[Nexus 7 General] Q.Entity:
I am always anxious to get ANY new device :)
[Nexus 7 General] Ravynmagi:
Dunno if anything will ever exceed the happiness of me getting my first USR 28K Sportster modem as a kid. Partly because it was the most expensive thing I ever bought with my paper route money. :p
[Nexus 7 General] daraldf:
I'm a early adopter and love my gadgets. Maybe the original Palm Pilot had the most anticipation for me followed by my first iPhone.

I was telling my wife last night about reading on Compuserve that the Palm Pilot was in stores, calling Circuit City and begging the guy to hold one for me for and hour. I called my boss and told him I had a personal emergency and went to get my Pilot.

I won't need to call off work to get my Nexus, I work at GameStop.
[Nexus 7 General] darkamikaze:
I'm pretty excited but a new toy is always exciting :P
[Nexus 7 General] ky0nkyon:
Ever preorder thread has been like this. The tf101 preorder thread was intense, for example.

My life for Aiur