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[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] alacrify:
You said this "Hey KT what's up with your kernel buddy?" If you were asking about his governor I wouldn't have blinked, but would have referred you like BNaughty did. Your question was bizarre in his kernel thread, hence my response. Sorry if you consider that an overreaction.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] AtoZ0to9:
it's kind of a volatile forum... im in offtopic a lot because of it...

edit: question was kinda worded poorly....
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] pussyliquor:
Agreed lol
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Pellel2:
Sorry it was my mistake ... see what happens when u try to post and watch big brother at the same time LOL sorry bro I meant governor not kernel my bad
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ewingr:
I Looked there multiple times I see no such option.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] zerkai:
Here's what I found:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] AtoZ0to9:
look harder

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thats about all the info there is i believe...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
Well after all the drama while I was eating dinner, here is the info. It is based on conservative, but added some tunable vars and made it a hotplugging gov unlike conservative. With the settings I included stock it is probably the most responsive gov and is pretty good at saving battery as well. Especially with my screen off option to limit the CPU top Mhz. Hope that answers all ur questions.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] AtoZ0to9:
its good to go in this release or requires the tweaking from some pages back?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Pellel2:
Thanks. In no means I meant to troll your thread your kernel is the best buddy !
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Urinophoria:
What ROM are you on? Its definitely there in aokp. System settings>developer options>20th entry from the top

Still no flicker BTW, I'm loving this kernel. I thought aokp+kt747 was great a week ago, now its just getting silly.

Edit: just to make it clear... by "getting silly" I mean above and beyond expectations if I was paying task650 and KT for a phone. For a couple guys doing this "just cause its fun" its pure awesome
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] pussyliquor:
Almost all the way down at the bottom.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] DevanPe:
Play store will not connect again. Will try to reflash

EDIT:: full wipe did the trick
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] AtoZ0to9:
fix permissions
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
Those values posted earlier are now built in to the kernel so you dont have to worry about them :good:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Urinophoria:
If play store is geeking, just delete your email acct from play store and re add it. It just didn't reauthenticate right after the flash.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] knightblaze:
In app store I still get some flickering, and now I get a bunch. Just installed Business Calendar and i think that's what is causing it?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] AtoZ0to9:
to save ktoonsez from having to respond, and also people flaming you

IN DEVELOPER SETTINGS DISABLE HARDWARE OVERLAY, AND IT'S BEING WORKED ON
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Andrew149:
Ktoon what's the lowest should I set my mhz? For screen off I know if you go too low your phone will lag when turning on and possibly not receive phone calls

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] pussyliquor:
Use a default gov in ktweaker like ktoon or on demand.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
I ended up at 486, that works perfect. 384 was OK but had some lag answering and going from ear to looking at the screen to hang up or enter number. 192 rebooted on a phone call on me. Just remember anything below the 1100's is a huge improvement. I did many nights of testing to see ho many steps the phone used alll night without any use. Surprisingly I would see almost 20 minutes some night in the 1100's, thats why I made the setting :D
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Urinophoria:
I'm down to 92mhz and everything works fine. Haven't missed a call or had a wake issue. Most of it seems to be phone specific. Some ppl cant run the kernel at all.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
+1
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Johnny424:
hey ktoonz.

would ditching thermald and mpdecision hurt anything? or is it only necessary if the ROM already has it and the kernel also installs it ?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
Kernel is always more efficient at controlling that, so it will stay in my kernels.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Johnny424:
what I meant was is it cool for me to ditch mpdecision and thermald from the ROM before the kernel flash? I know that on the 3d that was an issue we had with some kernels and ROMs..mainly random reboots.lol I didn't mean for it to come across as asking you to ditch it from the kernel :D

edit..you think those two files being in the ROM and the kernel at the same time could be the culprit for anyone with random reboots? I'm no kernel guy..just learning and curious forgive my questions dude
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
You should be ok removing it, maybe that is the source of some peoples issues with my kernel and certain ROMs.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Johnny424:
cool..yeah on the 3d..which I know isn't close to the same type of phone ..that's what we had to do to aosp ROMs with most custom kernels that came with mpdecision and thermald pre installed..also some init.d scripts and init.post-boot scripts were making things act strange and whacky..once pretty much all of the above were removed..no more random reboots..
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
Good to hear :D :good:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] electech13:
In my post...which you quoted there is paragraph where I explain that I do "extensive" stress testing with various apps...that I list...plus real world use as well...if it ain't stable or freezes, reboots, etc...I don't use it or post it!

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That's awesome if they work for you too. Btw are u using the voltages from the third column or the brackets at end? The third column are the ones that are MUCH lower and stable on my main phone and the bracket at the end is the higher but still decent UV for my second S3...curious which one u used?

As for scheduler and govenor. I use noop and either ondemand, conservative or. Smartass on occaision.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] AtoZ0to9:
Monies!!!

7FK45256ND535603H
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
Thanks man, and thanks for all the good info tonight :D :good: :highfive:. Off to bed for me.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] electech13:
Yet even further improvement to the kernel/tweaker.. question though. Where is the option to increase or decrease voltages by 5 or 25 button that others mentioned earlier? Don't see anything like that; still have to manually slide the voltage bar... there is a "settings" button now on top of the voltages page but when I tap it nothing happens. So not sure what's up...either way it keeps getting better but let me know if I'm missing something...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
Hit the menu button, thought I put that in the change log, going to be now.....
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] knightblaze:
That was with hw overlays disabled. I did a reboot and seems OK( rechecked the setting). Sorry was late and typing on my phone was getting aggravating
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] KennyG123:
If you can't see the giant downloads section of the OP perhaps you should get someone to help you with your phone before you brick it.

Thank you for your cooperation

Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] knightblaze:
I will say I am having better luck this go around with uving.

After 5 hours of stability testing and then letting it sleep overnight it went 2% in about 7 hours!

Went to bed with approx 92% juice and woke up the phone with 90%
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] sdlopez83:
I've had it up to here tweaking uv studying battery stats and cpu spy. I cannot find my drainage. On going down 3 percent every 10 minutes. I dropped everything by 100. Im not ocing. Im seeing that bat stats says my cpu Is in 384 for most of the time (odd). Don't see rogue apps. My screen off is at 486. On ktoonservation 8/31...Any suggestions are more thanks welcome. I hate to even post this because I like to figure things out but I need battery tonight.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] BabyHuey:
Are u rich or what? -_-
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] knightblaze:
You might have a rogue app. I know Amazon app store can be a culprit if you have it. I don't have issues with it though. Maybe turn on CPU overlay under dev options in settings. Watch for something coming up often or stays in the list?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] 420SYN:
Did you try it with no UV?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] sdlopez83:
Stock kernel I'm getting better juice. Something's not right. Maybe something is not sticking.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] tehsprayer:
I'm on AOKP Ktoonez and have this kernel if I want to flash a newer kernel like 8/31 do I just flash the AOSP zip and I should be good?

Also what does this ktoonservative governor do?

Flashed everything and UV to the startoff point. Do you guys use 96 mhz for lowest? I'm just using 192.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] 420SYN:
If ur using the aokp performance and ktweaker there could be issues. Or u could try wiping ktweaker data with titanium backup. Other than that maybe that kernel just won't work on your phone
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] RampageRR:
Use the app BetterBatteryStats to find out what's draining your battery. You can find the free version in the Apps section of xda.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] tehsprayer:
Can someone tell me what fast charge is and if I should turn it on?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] BabyHuey:
Fast charge was reverted due to stability problems. Ktoonsez could tell u more on why it was also.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] sdlopez83:
Will try wiping data.....regarding your last sentence.... don't tell me that! :'( .... I don't want to but I will refurbish if that's the case and pray I don't get another limp one. It would truly suck if it does not take the kernel.

No, I don't think I have rogue apps that I can see are causing drainage. I have been studying my results but nothing out of norm..

The only thing I see that most of the cpu usage is at 384 MHz... I think someone else had this issue.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] grubby0:
Isn't this usually caused from an app keeping your phone from hitting deep sleep?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] sdlopez83:
Thanks buddy, will look into this asap.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] BabyHuey:
Happy labor day weekend to all!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
No need to turn it on cus I dont have the code in there for it. I did tests and fast charge saves charging time of 2-3 seconds per 10% and just introduced issues connecting to your PC and caused a few random reboots. So at this point not worth all the million questions to me, why cant I connect to my PC, why am I getting random reboots when plugged in?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Lucky75:
Yeah, I have been reading the thread, and I know that everyone's phone is different, but how does one go about playing with the voltage levels? Do I just lower it until it becomes unstable? Or is there some threshold that is probably okay?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
You take 25 volts off at a time, run for 6-24 hours. If you dont have any reboots, try another 25, and so on, and so on, and so on.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ewingr:
Is this looking hard enough?

Still not there...

If there is some other setting that needs to be set in order for it to show, maybe a suggestion about that will help it appear. By the way, when I first posted, I was on Sammy 8-24. Last night I loaded a ROM with a stock Kernel. But it wasn't there before or after the flash.

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I am on STOCK ROM. I do not want to lose some of the functionality, and in particular, a couple of the TW apps.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] BabyHuey:
Hw overlay only applies to jb.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] RTBee:
:D:cowboy:

Maybe this is a silly question, but are you on cm10/AOKP kernel or the Sammy kernel? The Sammy kernel doesn't have the hw overlays option in the developers option settings. Just the CM10/AOKP one.

2Chainz is 2 fast :D
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ewingr:
Would be a better community if people learned to quit flaming..."Can't we all just get along?"

It's beginning to sound like diabling hardware overlay is not possible for some. At least it isn't for me. Maybe it's those who are on stock ROMs. So what do we do? I've been avoiding undervolting, which does defeat one of the main reasons I interest in a non-stock kernel.

Cool. Which version of the kernel are you on?

Just a thought...how many times have you flashed kernels and/or ROMs...without doing a complete wipe? I don't know for sure what to think about this, but I was having quite a bit of battery drain, compared to my earlier experience with the phone. Last night I installed a Stock Rom (Ariel), with stock kernel, and I'll be darned if my battery isn't phenominal.

The thing I did different is I did a Factory Reset, and of course all other wipes (used a lot of Charmin). I did restore the Data folder via TWRP. I'll continue to see how it goes.

I interest in using the KT kernel, and will likely be installing a version of it again soon. In fact the OP for Aria is using it quite successfully. I have asked what version, and no answer yet.

Sorry...I digressed. My point is that maybe a clean wipe of the system and fresh installs will help.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] TBayTom:
I did a full wipe and installed the latest ariel with this kernel, I'm getting great battery life but it keeps freezing and rebooting every so often. It must be the rom, I didn't have these issues with kyan. The issues are annoying but I'm still sticking with ariel rom for the time being.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] AtoZ0to9:
I dont remember reading anything in his post or yours for that matter stating that you both were on ICS or a Sammy ROM... neither of those have it... maybe I missed it, I'm not looking back that far...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Lucky75:
Aha! Thanks for the reply.

25 volts off of all speeds? Or just the top one or something? Typically how low can people go? Lowering the voltage doesn't damage the phone at all, does it?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
Its up to you, I onyl undervolt from 486 down cus I like speed for the the upper mhz's when the phone actually is doint something. Its all preference. I set the low limit to 700 which will be fine. Worst case is, you get data corruption by going to low and have to reload.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Lucky75:
You use 700 mV for under 486 mhz?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
No, the kernel will only allow u to go to 700mvolts as the MINIMUM. Mine can only handle 875 at those lower speeds.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] corythug:
As a point of reference I have 384mhz to 810mhz at 800mv, well 384mhz is a bit lower but the rest of those are 800mv. Keep in mind I haven't seen many other phones that can go that low, but that will give you and idea of what's possible.

Btw ktoonsez, love the new governor. It rarely goes over 1134mhz, only when it really needs it. No lag either. Awesome work yet again.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Lucky75:
Ah, gotcha. Thanks. I'll give it a try. Anything else that people usually tweak? Does your kernel just make everything accessible and allow us to change stuff, or does it change some settings by default? Works great so far, btw :)

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Wow, guess your silicon was good, eh? :p
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Urinophoria:
Ah ha! That, my friend, is why you don't see the option. Doesn't exist in the stock rom. If you're not getting flicker, I wouldn't worry about it. Far as I know the issue is an aosp/aokp thing. If you're stock you should be fine.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] BabyHuey:
If anybody wants to try my settings for ktoonservative governor.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] sdlopez83:
Wiped and only installed better battery stats. Without installing new kernel...Still, most of the cpu state is at 384 mhz. Is this normal?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ewingr:
Actually, quite a few phones just do not work well with this Kernel, so it is not necessarily your ROM. Not sure which version of it you are on. I've had good and bad luck with them, depending on which version of Sammy I am using. I can't undervolt hardly at all with them. I always have to raise voltage first thing after installing it.

I wouldn't expect you to remember that. Although my signature does indicate I am on I747UCLG1 , which is ICS. I used to post which Kernel I was on, but was changing it so often, I took it out. ( In fact, that reminds me, I need to update my sig based on the ROM I put on last night...Aria).

One of the problems in this particular thread is that there are 3 KT kernels, and quite often we never know which one is being used. And many of the answers assume, and assume wrong. And, don't include details about which kernel something applies to. Causes a lot of confusion.

Relating to the HW Overlay: I do in fact have a lot of screen flicker, and is the reason I asked where to set it when I couldn't fine it. That in particular is what has been driving me to increase voltages. Although I have also experienced other issues that go away if I raise voltages.

So, confusion resolved, more to ensue ... ;)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Heisenberg420:
I'm digging the ktoonservative governor! Small performance hit but amazing battery savings
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
Nope its ur phone or the ROM you choose
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Urinophoria:
Lmao!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] eLDuRo212:
What are you using for I/O Scheduler? Just curious
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ewingr:
Not sure what you mean by that. Did I say something to offend you? I certainly didn't intend to.

If it's because of my comment about quite a few phones not working with this kernel, KT himself has stated same. Just read through the thread to see it.

I'm just trying to help, and I try to refrain from insulting anyone, or flaming.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
We were just having fun :D :highfive: :good: :cyclops:. Nothing to worry about.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] AtoZ0to9:
LOL I was just messing around man... I try to bring a little offtopic into the threads...

Remember it's a giant party in here...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] eLDuRo212:
CPU Governor

Ktoonsez what CPU Governor do I need to use to OC the device to 2106? I am using performance and it just stays at 1512

Also I am using your ktoonservative governor which is great on battery but it tends to slow my phone sometimes, I am trying to see which governor is best for my phone
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
Use ondemand then.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] efrommel:
Im running high on Android Rom but when i install this Kernel start to lag like crazy. Maybe is the Rom? I wipe dalvik and fix permission on each install.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] gomisensei:
I think your battery may be at 85%, I can't be sure, tho. Just thought you should know.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] eLDuRo212:
Most likely is the ROM Max Lee the developer he just created that ROM so is going to have a lot of bugs
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ewingr:
:laugh::laugh:

Too funny...yeah, I noticed that after the flash. I'll get around to fixing the double listing some time...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] gomisensei:
Someone did the same to me when i posted a screenshot, with gsam, and tiff's batt mod, and the battery percentage on the lock screen (btw, triple listing)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] tehsprayer:
Dont use 2106 on performance even for a benchmark my phone when it started the benchmark it rebooted and was making flashes of white screen and got really hot.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] s2556:
Works good on my phone. Everyone's silicone is different though
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] edmondt:
I just want to say 8-30 and 8-31 Sammy both very unstable, revert to default voltage and setting and it still slutters, hangs and reboots like crazy...

Have to stick to 8-24 for now....

I'm on warmlite 1.2 by the way...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
That would be a bad ROM most likely. Got over 1200 users for the Sammy version now.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] eLDuRo212:
Speed Tests

Ktoonsez have a question for you because I am testing all these different CPU speeds, when I put the CPU to 1809 I get SuperSU permission which I am guessing it means that it took the speed, now when I go past 1809 I don't get SuperSU permission, does this mean my phone cannot take speeds past 1809?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] aaroncal:
just flashed kernal and its just hangs after optimizing app. it says starting apps but nothing ever happens
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ktoonsez:
No, SU just puts those messages up randomly, seem to be some timeout between messages.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] malinois16:
What ROM? If you meant kernel did you flash the correct one for your rom. Also, if you meant kernel, did you wipe cache, Davlik, fix permissions after flashing kernel.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] eLDuRo212:
Quadrant Standard

Ktoonsez one last question for you for the night :D I put my device on ondemand at 1512mhz and locked the frequencies, I ran Quadrant Standard app and for CPU I am only getting 2880 do you know why I am getting so low scores? I rank up at 3rd place
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] aaroncal:
yeah sorry i meant kernel and yes I did exactly as the instructions said have tried it twice no and no luck :/ so iI guess I am S.O.L.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] malinois16:
What Rom are you running? What vesion of kernel?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] edmondt:
I have been on this rom for a long time tho...

Donno why it slutters like that, crashes when taking pictures and reboots once in a while....

No problem after reverting back to 8-24
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] aaroncal:
latest task rom and latest kernel