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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] GoldenTiger:
Not sure if this thread is serious.

As I posted before in another thread:

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You are getting the exact phone you ordered... flashing your own ROM's is a completely unsupported, never-advertised feature and often results in fools bricking their phones then trying to get it replaced under warranty when it wasn't the manufacturer's fault at all, costing them and Verizon/other carriers money. So of course they are trying to make it more difficult whenever possible.

You guys are worse than newbie overclockers who think their CPU or video card is supposed to be guaranteed a 50% overclock or it should be returned as "defective" for a replacement.... /sigh. It is not a promised feature, and it is not something virtually anyone uses (99.9% I'd say, literally, don't). It's a bonus when available, that's that. I won't complain if someone gets a workaround going, but I would *never* buy a phone falsely assuming something would be present when it isn't a normal feature and was never advertised to come with such, then complain and try to give bad PR to a company or person for not giving it.

It'll be gotten around soon enough anyway, stop complaining and make sure you tell your billing account holder that you changed your mind and they shouldn't cancel your line!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] NFSP G35:
Signed.

I don't doubt that the devs will find a way-around this... but still, the absolute GALL of VZW to lock down the bootloader when NO OTHER PROVIDER does this?!?!? For shame!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] myredfast:
Signed!!! Took all of about 30 seconds. And if it doesn't work, at least "voices" were heard :-)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ugly pete:
Wait a second.... Am I on XDA? I had to check again to make sure i was not on BOB'S Discount Android ROM site. This will be hacked in a few days. Quit crying and tell your mom you changed your mind and want her to keep your line with verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Cicatrize:
I don't even believe in this kind of stuff, but I still signed it. It can't hurt. Also commented on how I'm a new customer and this isn't a good first impression.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] chill145:
i'm actually a 1st time customer with them and definitely not a good 1st impression
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] GoldenTiger:
Yep... not sure what the hub-bub is all about, it's not like it won't be done soon enough anyway.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Cicatrize:
Yeah, that's my thoughts about it, especially coming from an EVO 3D that took forever to get a bootloader unlock tool. It does irk me a bit that only one network did this with the GS3 though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] gomisensei:
the way

There is only one true way to express mass opinion on matters such as these that they care about. STOP GIVING THEM MONEY! that is the ONLY thing they care about. The point of competition is that you can take your business to their competitor if you're unhappy with them.

BTW, Pretty sure CDMA is on the way out... but then, so is analog tv, and I guess lots of people still love that too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] icebear8:
does anyone know if the Us cellular S3 have a locked bootloader? don't they share the same radio and LTE as each other
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] walkingagh:
Verizon has been locking bootloaders forever. Every motorola phone except the OG Droid. My guess is that something went bad for verizon with custom roms and now they lock phones down as much as possible. HTC has had a few unlocked, but pretty much everything else is locked.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] j0hnZ:
I'm pretty sure when I buy a computer it doesn't advertise that I can install any operating system I want on it. Sounds like we have some corporate guys on here trying to sound intelligent by telling everybody information they already know.

Also I'm pretty sure this is xda where the majority of people probably root their phones...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Ascertion:
You're not from around here, are ya buddy? Encrypted boot loader = nearly impossible.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Haro912:
It's like my TF201 all over again :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kirdroid:
Awesome these greedy useless carriers should be taught a lesson....everyone should say screw you carriers and buy unlocked devices or switch to more friendly carrier which is non existent I think.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] biff6789:
This.

If the bootloader was only locked it wouldn't be too bad. But if it's encrypted like we're getting word, then we're screwed.

Only way around that is for an engineering bootloader to leak (which might not ever happen) or for Samsung/Verizon to decide to provide an official unlock like HTC's dev tool.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] catbertz:
I sign with a sense of bitterness. My s3 will arrive Monday, and I am contemplating returning it and leaving VZ. I was month to month before preordering, which renewed my contract for two years. I don't know if I can hang.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kirdroid:
Hopefully all major tech sites pick these up and bash Verizon big time ... F u Verizon.

Verge had a good article on how carriers hamper innovation and this is a good example.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AdamLange:
Good idea, just update OP with the source of this finding about locked bootloader so the people may know whats all about:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1755594

Adam
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] corythug:
Signed. I feel your pain guys, got burned by at&ts locked one x.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] spanyam:
I have also signed the petition, but I honestly don't think this will work. What might work, however, is if we call up Verizon and complain to them on phone. If they get enough calls about it, then it has a much better chance of making an impact.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] gtuansdiamm:
Here is a paraphrased quote I liked

(Paraphrased cause I don't remember it exactly or even where I heard it)

Online petitions are only worth the paper they're printed on

(They aren't printed on paper)

I only say this cause well I don't think Verizon will give a damn
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] vqc:
Contacted Samsung Support. Got the same scripted reply.

Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.

You are now chatting with 'William'. There will be a brief survey at the end of our chat to share feedback on my performance today.

Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK56401291766X

William: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?

VC: Hi, is it true that the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 has a locked boot loader?

William: I understand that you want to know if the device has a locked boot loader. Is that correct ?

VC: yes

William: Thank you.

William: I will be more than happy to assist you

William: Samsung does not recommend to edit the boot loader of the device, as it voids the warranty

VC: Yes, i understand but it is my phone.

VC: I bought it. I should be able to do what I like with it.

William: I understand your concern

VC: Is it true that it has a locked boot loader?

William: Yes, it has the locked boot laoder

William: *loader

VC: This is ridiculous. Why is it that all the other version of the Galaxy S3 on other carriers does not have a locked boot loader?

William: I am sorry for the inconvenience caused to you.

VC: I will be returning this phone as soon as I can. You guys should really bring this up with Verizon

VC: They are making YOUR customer return your product.

William: I am sorry to inform you that there is no option to edit the boot loader for the device

VC: Then you've lost a customer.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Hero:
Signed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] appdroid:
Done!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] gtuansdiamm:
That spelling mistake now just shows that your talking to a bot

I've been seeing it on sprint too
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cashyftw:
I really think they are bots.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] I Am Marino:
You guys should just return them in droves for a phone that can be unlocked, if the cause could be mainstream. it'd be great.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mike86325:
signed.. and I've posted on both verizon's and samsung's fb pages
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] inm8num2:
If I weren't on a family plan I'd literally call Verizon and tell them to shove it.

This is unacceptable. Gee, wonder why it took a couple extra weeks for the phone to come out on Verizon? They were too busy restricting the device.

Big Red wins again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] KLLSWITCH:
news

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/29256-root-recovery-sch-i535-verizon-galaxy-s-iii/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Fun With Drugs:
Oh look, Verizon's being a douche. Again.

Another reason to leave/switch when the time comes.

Will be getting the GSIII on AT&T when my prison sentence with Verizon is over (only a few more months now).

Woo.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Metfanant:
while great news, its unfortunately only root...the bootloader is the issue at hand...not root...

i REALLY think that people unfamiliar with the situation regarding Motorola devices (post Droid X) are having difficulty understanding how insignificant root access is when compared to having an encrypted bootloader
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] PoorCollegeGuy:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1756483

includes boot and the petition :)

XDA Portal listens ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kanagadeepan:
Signed for USA friends... Lets hope good...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] s197:
This is a huge step, in less than 24 hours I might say. Root and custom recovery opens up a lot of possibilities. One step at a time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] lupoalberto12:
Done!

Bye!

! :) !
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] andreiantal:
I wish verizon would care but i don't remember in the past doing something for the customers when they messed up something.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] squid267:
Signed! This is so ridiculous!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] th3b3:
Signed! Did everyone forget about vzw nicking us for accepting payments by credit card? We took to social media outlets and in days it was reversed and that was about extra income for vzw. Unlocking the boot loader is not a loss for the.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] skennelly:
This is the Droid X all over again. Unfortunately, as a DX owner, this news of the SGS3 is not looking good. If there is not a significant advance in this by two weeks from Monday, then I will be exchanging my SGS3 for the Nexus. I am tired of BS workarounds just because VZW is a bunch of aholes

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Two words for you - DROID X
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] chamba:
389 signatures and counting!! of course mine is in there too we will have this wrapped up before lunch :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nopi45:
I guess we all know why are phones came out after every one else's. So done with Verizon after my contract is up.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dewhashish:
I would hope this would work for Motorola phones too, but i doubt it

signed
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] techno_hippyGuy:
Signed.

If there isn't some movement on this from Verizon, or if the devs cant get past the bootloader after a week and a half, returning as "defective" and signing with another carrier. This is redunkulous.

Also posted on their facebook, and making my way through merchant sites to give bad review.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Zorigo:
Don't own an S3 and don't even live in the US, but hell, i signed it. It's about the principle
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] WhammyDroid:
Signed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] techno_hippyGuy:
Just signed as my design and animation business as well as my earlier personal signature. Screw vzw and their shenanigans.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bigmike2424:
Signed. I'm not even with verizon or using a Galaxy s3 but I support devs and having fun with the device you spend $600 on.

Also I remember when I bought the HTC sensation from T-Mobile with a locked boot loader people went crazy on this forum and around that same time HTC decided to change its policies and let devices be unlocked over their website, so things like this do work.

Even when Verizon was delaying the gnex release date. Remember literally ever single post on their Facebook wall was asking for a gnex release date. I dont know if that worked but I'm sure it annoyed the hell out of them and it was funny
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] arkard1:
Also signed, I have also contacted the BBB about this and brought up the fact that it is actually illegal for Verizon to be doing this. I advise more and more people to contact them. If anything we can bring down there BBB rating as well.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] macdroid01:
I'm doing the same thing. Let's all create a media ****storm. It will help/new customers to know to avoid buying a Verizon S III.

This is why I was switching from Motorola...ugh. Strongly considering Sprint...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] gkinsella2:
There's a brief article in engadget about it...can't post links yet, but it's on the front page.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
I signed it for you guys. Good Luck and hope you get your bootloaders unlocked.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kulzboy:
I don't currently own an android smartphone (iPhone) but I'll sign because I believe in Android opensource
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] techno_hippyGuy:
Not sure to post here or different thread, will probably post in a few. Just spoke with a VZW pre-sales associate (i know, not the right department) and have the convo below. Even though its the wrong department, getting the word through every line they have to reach their higher ups will be invaluable. Even their sales reps seem to already know the **** storm VZW has cooked up with this one.

VZW Sales Rep Convo:

You are now chatting with 'Neil L'

Neil L: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?

Tony: Hi, I may have opened the wrong chat option, this is more about a completed order. I received a defective galaxy s3 (though I'm sure verizon doesn't consider a locked bootloader defective). I know there is a media s***-storm on the internet atm about it. Wanted to find out if there is any word on an unlock, or if there is any statement from Verizon about the issue?

Neil L: That is great question.

Tony: Thanks, I know thousands on various forums are curious as well =D

Neil L: Yes.

Neil L: Unfortunately I don't have the information myself as I am just a pre-sales representative and that information I do not have access to, you can try calling our Customer Care department at 1-800-922-0204 Option 4 between the hours of 6AM and 11PM Monday-Sunday your local time and see what they know on it.

Tony: I understand. I will most certainly do that. Just wondering, is there anyway for you to forward this to some higher ups anyway? Many are already posting bad reviews on every forum and public chat possible. I feel as many forms of contact with VZW and their corporate people as possible would be a great help.

Neil L: I can certainly pass the feedback to the leadership team as well.

Tony: Thanks so much. Let them know I and many others will be returning the defective devices within the 14 day period if nothing is done to fix this. I really appreciate you talking to me about the issue and being willing to forward this upwards. Whatever comes from it, you're being a big help and will be appreciated by the community.

Neil L: Not a problem.

Neil L: Anything else I can do for you?

Tony: No, this is the only issue I have with the phone and my service. Otherwise everything is working out great. Thanks so much.

Neil L: Thank you for visiting Verizon Wireless; it’s been a pleasure chatting with you. Have a great day!

Tony: You too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stevessvt:
I went through this exact same thing with Verizon and Motorola trying to get them to unlock the RAZR, which even after they publicly posted they would unlock the bootloader, never did. One of the main reasons I went to T-Mobile. Good luck to you all.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Paul600k5:
Signed. I wish Verizon would straighten up.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BishelFish:
First time poster, and I just signed.

I was planning on getting the Galaxy S III as my first android handset because I love the operating system and it's a top of the line phone on Verizon's network. I would like to encourage everyone to contact various tech-related blogs and news sites(ie. The Verge, Engadget, Gizmodo, etc.) to make the issue known. I have already tipped The Verge.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] incubus26jc:
Wow, nice response guys. almost 500 signs already.

We are also todays Top Petition.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] supern0va:
will sign for this. i have cdma GNex and was considering returning, or burning 2nd upgrade for GSIII. This will not be the case now. Also, is there an official hashtag we can use to get twitter/G+ poppin' with this petition?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] pozer69:
I signed it. I also put a negative review of the phone up on vzw.com stating the bootloader was encrypted. It is pending approval
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] VincentGrimore:
Signed and forwarded to everyone I know! Keep it going guys!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] LLStarks:
www.change.org/petitions/verizon-wireless-and-samsung-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Royalaid:
While all of this complaining is well and good we need to have an organized effort and need to hit them were it hurts. Returning devices is effective but not practical for Joe Blow or Jane Smith, however if we get enough of our friends and family to start complaining about the bootloader (take some time and explain why this is bad but not more then a few minutes) we stand a real chance of doing something. Comcast rebranded themselves to Xfinity because the name was poisoned and as has been mentioned HTC unlocked their devices because everyone wanted it so it is possible but we are going up against the forces that be so we need to be cleaver. At the very least I would recommend a hashtag (#verizonsucks, #SIII) and try to get those trending. Another thing we NEED to have is press coverage, we need The Verge, Engagdet, Techcrunch, Cnet, Twit, and anyone else we can think of on our side. The last thing we need is to flood their support lines with claims that the device is defective, call and email them and keep sent to higher level support, the higher up the chain the more likely it will make an impact even if the call doesn't belong there. We need to basically go full 4chan raid style on this if we want it to work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TheMorlince:
Why post a second petition? It's like two candidates running on the same ticket for the same office. Your going to split the votes even though they go for the same thing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] LLStarks:
Ipetition never works. Change is reputable.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tnt8902:
I love how the trolls have no hope. That's why the rest of the trolls let sorry arse politics and idiots run America. Change can happen. If you don't try to make a change you got yourself to blame. :beer:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tnt8902:
Yeah don't make a 2nd petition. Would be a bad move.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
You guys know its rooted and custom recovery'd on rootz, right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jeyman:
I am done with Verizon, was holding onto contract upgrade for this. Unlocked equals no buy for me. I am moving to unlocked phones; verizon you will never see a dime of my 3 phones + tablet anymore.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stkiswr:
Its not fully unlocked.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Sniper_5:
that's like have administrative access to your computer but you can't change the OS.

Sent from my DROIDX
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/29256-[ROOT]-[RECOVERY]-SCH-I535-(Verizon-Galaxy-S-III)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tnt8902:
It may be rooted and recovery'd, but not official. So phone is voided.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
What else do you need it for? Like aosp roms won't work bc of it?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
You phone is voided anyways when you have su access.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SparksGuy:
I signed!

Make SURE to sign in the ipetitions site, not just posting in this thread. :p :silly: :eek:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tnt8902:
Did we forget to mention that android is open source? So why the hell people buy it? To do what the heck what we want with it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
You don't get my question. If its already rooted and cwm 'ed why does it matter?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Sniper_5:
because making functional ROM's is very difficult when you don't have full access to the phone. Its like trying to modify a car engine through the firewall because the hood has a lock on it. It can be done, but it takes a long time, and will never work as well as it should.

Sent from my DROIDX
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] antp121:
Derp. I need some sleep....srry for being a dumbass.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
Unlocked bootloaders is having FULL control of your phone. Yes your warranty is void during root but with an unlocked bootloader you can go right back to stock without any trace that that phone has ever been rooted hense you now have your warranty back. Locked down bootloaders and root with recovery is pointless unless you have full control. Why do you think everyone is leaving HTC to come to Samsung? Just my .2 and on that note I hope Verizon listens to the people.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Sniper_5:
I think we all have our moments, and those of us coming from a " DROID" ( Motorola) phone will understand this impact far better than anyone. I was psyched to ditch the locked bootloader as it completely killed my love of rooting and ROMing. This phone finally sparked my interest again( I'm so fed up with fighting this phone I literally gave up), so a locked bootloader is a slap in the face, big time. My DX has root, but no ROM's, as they all had to sacrefice something to work.

Sent from my DROIDX
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] peanut1596:
Not on Verizon. Never will be on Verizon. But I'd hate to be in your shoes guys, so that's why I'm signing this ****. General gs3 community ftw.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] macdroid01:
Thanks to all our S III friends from Tmo/Sprint/A&tt/i9300 . That is really cool you all are backing us on this.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Sniper_5:
+1

Sent from my DROIDX
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] broons:
Signed. This was going to be my next phone but not now. At least the incredible 4g is unlockable via htcdev.com
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dohturdima:
Signed the petition. Oh well, was hoping to leave Sprint's crappy network, although was not going to do it until VZW brought back its 2ble data promo. Now even more likely to wait and see. Wife is getting her G3, which will be rooted and CWMed. Personally, don't think VZW will care about the petition. As long as devs find workarounds and development is not held back as a result of this stunt by Verizon, all will be well.

---------- Post added at 01:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:39 PM ----------

Not quite, unless you decide to tell them that you did do it :laugh:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1756885

Q: Does this trip the flash counter?

A: No