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[Motorola Atrix HD] :
What you said in above is way too hard to be understood by the American Motorola's fans. The same goes with some of the moderators of Motorola phones forums.

I don't hessitate to say Motorola was already an evil and arrogant American company that now owned by another giant evil company called Google. God help us all.

I have already sold my Motorola Defy and thinking to cut my losses and sell the Atrix too. I might keep Atrix as my last ever owned Motorola phone, I like the phone. I'm just eager to see if it finally runs the way it should have from day one or not. Personally, as I have always said, I'd be very happy to receive Gingerbread fixes for my Atrix, like the US owners got but Motorola has denied UK users as well as other countries the GB fixes.

I have already purchased the Samsung Galaxy Note, very pleased by it, and once my contract is up (on Atrix in very early 2013) I would not even consider Motorola options even if they had the best phone on the market.

I will never forgive Motorola for how awfully treated the customers out-side of USA.
[Motorola Atrix HD] ccrows:
You do realize that your Galaxy Note runs on Android right? Google can't be that evil to you...
[Motorola Atrix HD] :
All my smartphones are Android based. My CSharpHeaven ID has nothing to do with my opinion on Google. I turned down WP 7 because I knew how bad it was and Microsoft was ripping customers off.

Now here is something you should really know. The only credit Google gets it is how they used other technologies (Java, Linux, VM, and etc) to put together and enhance other concepts to develop Android. Google by using people's money, including yours, managed to create something descent today, the Jelly Beans, that has the same product quality when the first version of iOS came out. The irony? most people invested in Android, including you and I, will never see JB on the very expensive hardwares people bought 8 to 12 months ago.

I see the bigger picture.
[Motorola Atrix HD] MJPollard:
One must never let logic and common sense get in the way of a *****y rant. :D
[Motorola Atrix HD] ccrows:
All OS have their faults. You can say that they all rip you off, but what's your "realistic" expectation of product support by Google (not the carrier)?

Then again if you want more out of your phone CM7/9 should hold you over for a while. Well at least until you finally decide on which phone you want next... ;)
[Motorola Atrix HD] :
I am buying the next Nexus as well.

MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz
[Motorola Atrix HD] :
I have previously written a six parts article about Android and Google and posted them in Android General forum. Before I get the chance to complete the final two parts I removed them all in protest of one of my other threads was closed unfairly. I think those articles took me about one hundred hours of work. I still have a copy of the text of articles. Those articles should have answered many of your questions and also enlighten subjects that many never think about.

In my opinion your question regarding the "product support" shows how low your expections are. The chip manufacturers are after killing Intel and to take over the PC market. If these devices are meant to take over the PCs then I have far more product support expections than I ever talked about before.

I'm glad you mentioned about CM. Apparently every Android problem is solved with installing CM. I'm glad to have first-hand experience with CM which proved to be another problem rather than a solution. Being a technical person, somehow, I'm expected to provide support to all family and friends. A family member with HTC Desire wanted a solution to be able to overcome the app storage limitations. It took me two days of careful planning to install the latest CM7.2 on his handset. I had to root, unlock the bootloader, flash a new recovery, make a backup of the ROM, flash CM, repartition his SD card, then use s2e app to swap various of partition to the SD card, reinstall all his apps, restore all his contacts, and teach him how GB works. The most challenge of it was not to brick his phone. I'm not loaded with cash you know? The day after I had to spend time and my own money to go to his place because he complained the GPS wasn't working. After hours of trying I told him the GPS won't work. Since GPS was very important to him he asked me to revert back to his HTC ROM. I'm sure you can tell how it felt.
[Motorola Atrix HD] CaelanT:
Your argument died here by your own doing.............different hardware........yup, you said it!

For me it is. I love my FP reader, and find it the best unlock feature I have had on any phone to date. Speak for yourself!

In agreement here..............the HD version is imo a downgrade!

Read the news at all? There is a quad core SGSIII coming out very soon! Might be up for release in a different country, but it will be stateside in any event! http://www.gadgetdetail.com/samsung-announces-quad-core-sgsiii-lte-with-2gb-ram-for-korea/

Motorola is not owned by Google!................You did just self admittedly own yourself by posting that though!
[Motorola Atrix HD] yeahmann:
The FP scanner is the only reason I got the Atrix. Without it, Samsung looks better. AMOLED plus a history of faster ROM releases. We're a minority though. Apparently, most people don't care about FP scanners. It's a pity.
[Motorola Atrix HD] :
Sorry, I'm not sure what you meant. Google owns Motorola now that China showed them the green lights with the condition Android remains open-source for the next five years.

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The FP is extremely handy for me in two scenarios. 1. I need to unlock the phone with one hand only without punching the pin code. 2. In situations like when someone over looking at my phone then I use the FP to secure my pin number.
[Motorola Atrix HD] CaelanT:
Google does not own Motorola! They bought Motorola Mobility.....................

http://www.google.com/press/motorola/

Go forth............read..............be educated..............have a great evening!!!
[Motorola Atrix HD] :
You seem intelligent enough. I would appreciate it if you could answer the following question please.

What is the Android's biggest achievement?

Hints: It has nothing to do with Android related apps and services from neither Google nor other vendors.

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Of course I've been meaning Motorola as Motorola Mobility. There is no Motorola as a company anymore. The company was divided into two, the other is called Motorola Solutions if I'm not mistaking.

I just posted a question and if you consider yourself very well informed in Android world then you should be able to answer it with ease.

I don't know which one of us need to have a good evening really, you used to be much nicer to me. :-/
[Motorola Atrix HD] ccrows:
OK I'm not gonna quote all of that, but I see where you are coming from. First & foremost modding Samsung/HTC/Motorola are different processes. IMHO HTC is the most difficult out of the 3. (BTW I use to own a HTC Desire myself)

Anywhoo the Atrix is waaaaay easier to mod IMHO than the Desire. I used this video and followed along with this guide and I was up and running with an unlocked BL and CM7 within a couple of hours. (Would have been up sooner, but watching the 4 part video before doing anything took the longest)

Bottom Line - You can be upset at Motorola, Google, CM, HTC, the Sky, ETC... but sitting around and waiting for Motorola is not gonna help. IMO the Atrix is night and day better with CM7 vs stock. Anywhoo you now have a video and a guide that really makes the process quite easy. The rest is up to you... :)
[Motorola Atrix HD] :
Thank you for the links. I have to disagree on the point which most Android users don't get.

I would love to see the day where companies like Motorola Mobility, HTC, and Samsung provide better support for the army of Android users. This wouldn't happen when there isn't enough expectations and this would lead to the companies to become abusive. Some more than others.

The second best Android version the ICS is only on 10% of handsets. For a platform this is a disaster. Looking at the new generation of the apps from Google it clearly shows GB is already outdated and Google has itself to blame for not having enough ICS based devices on people's hand.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mvgc3:
While I commend your dedication to your family, I can say that I'm in the same boat. I'm the tech guy, I've always been, and I probably always will be. I don't always like it, but I've accepted it, and I can say that you always have the right to say no. In particular, if the time and money on the second day was that important to you, you should have said "I'll check it out the next time we see each other"; if that's not soon enough, then they're out of luck. In fact, yesterday my cousin asked if I could look at her computer, and I said I'd do when I go to help them move furniture in a few days (double whammy favors! :cool: ). Not trying to be rude about it, but this is nothing worth complaining about.

Part two: Android's biggest achievement is being a highly customizable, open source, mobile OS. And an excellent one at that.

And for what it's worth, Android's biggest issue is a lack of an update timeframe for the manufacturers. As in, Google needs to say something like "You can use Android on your phone but they need to be updated within 2 months, for two years".
[Motorola Atrix HD] jjwatmyself:
I'd have gone for or a new word. none of this HD stuff which is so 2 years ago. Atrix ____ (insert cool word here).
[Motorola Atrix HD] aaron.a:
It's ugly. That Samsung ish lip on the back is bad
[Motorola Atrix HD] ccrows:
For the record Samsung has already given phones to Devs for free, and Devs are the one of the biggest reasons for expanding the lifespan of Android phones. (actually IMO they are the biggest)

Sure Google could be better, but if you want somebody to hold your hand for you from the first day to the last then that's basically what Apple is for. I for one like to have more control over my phone, so I don't mind taking the time learning the ins and outs. There's a trade off to everything.

The question is do you want to put some work in and have a phone customized "your way" or do you want an iPhone?...
[Motorola Atrix HD] TravisAntonio:
Guys stop effin' fightin' already -.-.

Who the... said that this is the Atrix 3?.. (rolling eyes) :rolleyes:
[Motorola Atrix HD] ska4fun:
Your evaluation is nothing because we don't know wih is the processor architecture. If it is cortex a9, surely will be disappointing, but if is cortex a15, surely will be far more interesting than tegra3.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Maringer:
Try reading my whole post next time, rather than just selectively quoting and getting completely the wrong end of my argument.

I wasn't saying battery life will be worse than the original Atrix just because the battery is smaller on the new device. I was talking about battery life in general terms.

When you've got a new phone with a large 4.5"+ HD screen and LTE support, I'm less than convinced that reducing the battery size is a great idea. Battery life is becoming increasingly important, especially now the new phones have the power to be good gaming and media playing devices and a 3300mAh battery as found in the Razr Maxx would seem to be a better choice than a 1780mAh battery to me. The Atrix HD battery is smaller than that in the SGSIII and HTC One X.

Note that the Razr Maxx with it's enormous battery is a whole 0.6mm thicker than the Atrix HD. I'd certainly be happier with a phone a tiny bit thicker and weighing a few extra grams which had 30 to 80% longer battery life!
[Motorola Atrix HD] :
About Atrix HD, what the OP is about... Just commenting about the specs not the company.

I have already mentioned this before, the best investment in Android hardware would a phone with 2GB of RAM. The upcoming powerful software products such as Desktop and virtualisation will need that type of memory.

The more powerful CPUs and GPUs get the more data will be processed and for that more RAM is required. If not by end of 2012 then in 2013 we will see handsets with 2GB RAM. Of course Atrix HD specs, being mid-range, will be adequate for many users. I expect XDA members would want to be smart in deciding what phone is future proof today. Samsung Galaxy S3 will not be for instance, however the Korean version with 2GB will.
[Motorola Atrix HD] dmurray19:
Nice, but very samaungish if you ask me
[Motorola Atrix HD] Pixelguy:
just my helpful feedback..

looks sh*t lol
[Motorola Atrix HD] anaschillin:
With those specs Motorola have failed definitely because HTC and Samsung the two biggest android sellers have taken out quad core processor phones with S3 being the better one. Motorola did really well to take out the first dual phone obviously being the Atrix, they should have not decided to take out the AtrixHD, waste of money with rumors of Atrix 3 in desin apparently passing through FCC and all. The AtrixHD would have been a good phone if there was bigger RAM. Motorola should have joined the quad core line to keep up with sales.
[Motorola Atrix HD] DroidRunner:
No one needs quad core right now. Dual core is by far enough.
[Motorola Atrix HD] JiminSD:
The Atrix 3 won't replace my Atrix but depending on price it maybe a great entry phone for someone else. I am going to use my Atrix until I am need of a new phone, and there isn't one out there worth giving up my perfectly good working phone. Motorola saved me money putting out a really good phone in the Atrix.
[Motorola Atrix HD] anaschillin:
Your are correct by saying that there is no need for Quad Core, but a lot of people do tend to buy the newest phone out and with HTC and Samsung bringing theres out it would make sense that Motorola bring one out to just to keep up in the market sales.
[Motorola Atrix HD] MJPollard:
You and I are of a like mind. Too many people fixate on having the latest and greatest and flashiest, and if they don't get exactly everything they want, it's like a zombie apocalypse has descended right upon their heads. I doubt I'll get any of the Atrix models next year when I'm eligible for an upgrade, but then, I doubt I'll even get a new phone at all, since my Atrix is still a great phone (in spite of its vocal detractors) and still does everything I want a smartphone to do. I'll upgrade when it makes sense to do so, not simply because I can, and when I do, I'll look at what's around me and make my choice then. Until then, pass the popcorn, because I'm having a field day watching people whine and cry and ***** and moan about everything that will never satisfy them. :D
[Motorola Atrix HD] Maringer:
I'm not quite sure that I'd call a device with a 4.5" HD screen and LTE support an entry-level phone! Not for a few years yet, in any case!
[Motorola Atrix HD] giper54:
Dual core is fine not many programs are written to handle 4 cores
[Motorola Atrix HD] Cusa:
4 cores would be a waste of battery life. I'd probably disable 2 cores if I had one.
[Motorola Atrix HD] JiminSD:
Ok! Not entry phone.
[Motorola Atrix HD] MotoHead305:
I have been too disappointed with Motorola and how they do updates and don't fix issues with phones. I never rooted or unlock bootloaders and after the last update my phone overheated wifi kept dropping. All of my phones til last night were Motorola's. I have a Galaxy Nexus running on Android 4.1 and its amazing Im not turning back to the Atrix which is still waiting for ICS.
[Motorola Atrix HD] facetubespam:
and your issue was just one in a million. c'est la vie.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Hydro360:
Just to be clear there are no quad core phones in the us GS3 dropped as a dual. I would like to see a Tegra3 phone. But until they fix the heat issues and battery drain. I'm sticking to dual. I don't know why all the new phones aren't getting a MAXX battery life. That's the number one complaint from every smart phone across the board.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Recon Freak:
I do. Windows 8, iOS6,Jelly Bean and Linux Mint Maya each on their own core.:D
[Motorola Atrix HD] teeth_03:
AT&T announced that it will be available July 15 for $99 and will come with a free vehicle dock for a limited time.
[Motorola Atrix HD] CaelanT:
http://www.droidmatters.com/news/official-att-unveils-the-motorola-atrix-hd-lte-launches-on-july-15-for-99/
[Motorola Atrix HD] madlaw1071:
I'm still within my remorse period on the SG III. Wondering if the Atrix HD has a status light and how well the battery will compare.
[Motorola Atrix HD] upndwn4par:
$99 = inferior Atrix. And smaller, non-removable battery = suck.

http://mediacenter.motorola.com/New...D-Unveiled-Slimmer-Stronger-Smarter-3b5a.aspx
[Motorola Atrix HD] Atr1x:
What the Atrix HD should have had

Quad core Snapdragon S4 with LTE

2GB Ram

Atleast 1.9mp front camera and 8mp back camera

Removable battery over 2000mah

Jellybean (or a upcoming update)

atleast 16gb internal and MicroSD slot

720p Screen

Fingerprint sensor

NFC

The body looks relatively good though.
[Motorola Atrix HD] yeahmann:
Don't care about quad core or removable battery but would like:

4.8" 720p OLED screen

2MP front and back cameras with flash on both sides. 4x optical zoom on back.

801.11ac

Bluetooth 4.0

MicroSDXC

Fingerprint scanner

Nexus branded
[Motorola Atrix HD] facetubespam:
try it. and if you don't like it, you'll still be able to go back.
[Motorola Atrix HD] MotoHead305:
New hands on review of the Atrix HD im impressed to be honest I was already writing this phone off. Check out the first hands on review here

http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-atrix-hd-hands-on-and-unboxing-20120712/#entrycontent

That benchmark looks pretty good to me
[Motorola Atrix HD] lesonal:
This is why I left Motorola and bought a nexus phone !!
[Motorola Atrix HD] Kedakari:
I upgraded from my Atrix 2 to the Atrix HD.

I think its a great phone. One of the developers from Motorola said that AT&T wanted to make the phone cheaper. So they took out NFC, reduced memory from 16gb to 8 gb, and took out Webtop OS. They also reduced battery size.

Even with the cutback, I think the phone performs well and is a great step-up from the Atrix 2. Other devices in the same price range can't keep up with the Atrix HD.

AT&T: $99 2-Year Contract

BestBuy: $49 2-Year Contract

My line was up for an upgrade, Traded in my Atrix 2 for $150 and got the Atrix HD.

My choices other than the Atrix HD was an Iphone 4, Sony Xperia Ion, SGS2, and the HTC Vivid

I got the Atrix HD and saved the $100 gift card.

So I think it was worth it. IMO
[Motorola Atrix HD] IrateCustomer:
LTE

Larger Screen

Better resolution

50% Processor upgrade per core

Better Cameras (front and back)

ICS already installed (I think this is an upgrade)

$49 at Best Buy (where I buy my phones)

All of these are nice upgrades from my original Atrix. The complaints are valid depending on one's situation. I've never had issues with my battery, nor have I needed to remove it so it doesn't bother me a bit as I'm always near a place to charge the phone. But I can see where this would bother some heavy users. FP scanner is awesome, but no other phone has one either, so the playing field is even. Also, the FP Scanner is just one more piece of hardware to break, which mine already has. I would have liked 2gb of RAM though, and would pay the money to get it.

Overall, I'd say it's a damn good value for the price point, and a solid phone for all but the most hardcore phone enthusiasts. Most benchmark tests I've seen show the Atrix HD to be right in the middle of the One X and the SGS III.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Kedakari:
Once the Atrix HD gets rooted, I'm sure with just a few build.prop tweaks, the MAHD will beat the SGS3 in benchmarks.

After a day or two, running Juice Defender and the included SmartActions, I used my phone, played games, and watched a few shows. I checked my phone the next day after I forgot to charge it and I was happy to see that I still had 53% battery life left.

People see the size of the battery and automatically assume it's no good. The Atrix HD uses the Snapdragon S4 Krait, which is a 28nm chip that uses far less power than normal mobile CPU's. So even though the battery is around 1700mAh, it still performs around the level of a 2200mAh battery would.

The Camera complaints are from people who rely so much on automatic settings. If you want a good photo, then take the time to adjust your camera settings before taking the shot.

I dont mind the locked bootloader, eventually just like the Atrix 2, there will be roms, themes, and tweaks even with a locked bootloader.

I think the Atrix HD is excellent for what it is and for it's entry level price I'd say it beats out the One X or the SGS3
[Motorola Atrix HD] IrateCustomer:
I also try to find products made in the USA since there are so many production jobs getting outsourced. This is another reason I try to go with Motorola. Although the Galaxy Note is one tempting piece of geekery.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Kedakari:
LOL If you say so. When it comes to electronics, you cant be sure which country is producing it. I'm sure their are some resistors in the Atrix HD that are Chinese. Not to mention the involvement it takes to make the battery.

and yes, the Note is very tempting, but the size is impractical to me. I dont feel like having a semi-tablet in my pocket. lol

If you want a tablet you can make phone calls from go pick up a eLocity A7 from criagslist for $60 bucks. They have sim card slots, and it runs a Tegra 2 lmao (just playing The eLocity A7 is HORRIBLE)
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darksmart:
Hi

Noob here.

I have a bootloader unlocked rooted AT&T xperia play at 2.3.3(kernel 2.6.32.9-perf)(build number 3.0.1.B.0.270).

I want to install the Doomkernel v14.but the installation notes says that I have to be on stock SE 4.0.2.A.0.42/.58/.62 FW.Also the older releases of Doomkernel does not match with my firmware.:confused:

So how do I install the Doomkernel??I tried updating FW via PC companion but it says 5 hours remaining to download the file.(though my Internet is fast enough).:eek:

Also Can i have the stock Sony Ericsson Rom over custom kernel(preferably Doomkernel v14)??

Thanks

Please help me on this.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MonY960:
[FIRMWARE][FTF] Collection of Xperia Play R800a/i/at/x firmware
[Galaxy S III Accessories] circuit.007:
I'm really new to nfc, never used it before. I know Samsung released their version of nfc tags called Tectiles but I think they are too over priced for some stickers. I was wondering what size of nfc tags are good to buy and from where do you guys buy your nfc tags for cheap?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] x_SCOS_x_ELITE:
i would like to second this
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Darmokk:
Good question if anyone has any experience with NFC and the tectiles please help us out
[Galaxy S III Accessories] KainamHD:
I've done a little researching on this topic.

The Samsung TecTiles contain a Type 1 MIFARE chip with 1KB of memory.

The Galaxy S3 supports Types 1, 2, 3, and 4.

Type 4 NFC tags are capable of 2KB of memory.

I've found the Type 4 (MIFARE Desfire EV1 2K chip) here:

http://www.identivenfc.com/nfc-tags/google-nfc-tags-type4.htm

Type 1 NFC tags can be found here:

http://www.tagsforandroid.com/tags/Home.html

Beware, cause not all Type 1 NFC tags contain 1KB of memory.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] xdstx:
+1 for tagsfordroid

and you get a free nfc keychain with your purchase!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] demarcmj:
FYI - Here's another thread discussing tectiles and generic nfc tags... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1749028
[Galaxy S III Accessories] circuit.007:
Is 1kb enough for let's say doing 3 things like turning blue tooth gps and navigation on? Or is 2kb type four needed for that? I'll check tags for DROID out. Btw what do u use the nfc key chain for?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] KainamHD:
I'm not sure yet how much can fit on the 1K tags, I don't have my S3 yet.

For the price at tags4droid, I went with those to play around with them and see what I can do with them.

The keychain could be used to toggle on/off a car mode (wifi off, gps on, bluetooth on if you have ford sync or similar etc...)