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[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] rpc180:
Got mine yesterday from an OG Incredible. Few thoughts:

Nice size but it feels bit slippery when just handling it by the edges - am seriously looking at cases. Still getting used to the new power button location, volume rocker seems a bit unresponsive. The screen responds okay, some areas were imprecise though I think its more related to the application in use at the time.

Sense looks great, and the lock screen is a nice touch. However I really wish they had allowed it to modify the total row/column icon values. To fix that on the OG incredible, I purchased AWD Launcher EX but the lack of the menu button forces the launcher to eat up a whole row for its vertical "..." settings button. Effectively I've got the same amount of screen real-estate as the OG because of it. Someone suggested before - if a dev can figure out how to map the "multitasking" button for menus and trick ICS it would be perfect :)

Battery - pretty awesome for the first two days. After a full charge ran GPS for a full hour, bluetooth speaker connected, and speakerphone action for another 2-3 hours. Additionally had it streaming tune-in radio music for another hour with bluetooth or after that and it hit about 40%. It was still able to survive another 3-4 hours worth of heavy usage with settings until it zero'd out.

GPS - locks on pretty quickly, seems like it might be a few feet "behind" the car as I think a few intersections showed me just before while I was crossing the other side.

Edit: Now playing with apex launcher and maybe nova launcher to see if it'll cover my needs over ADW - I guess there's no reason to go nuts over an app that was only a $.10 deal!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Skidoo03:
Amazing phone, I'm not gonna say to much about it because everything everyone else has said about it that's good is exactly right, camera is great, screen is gorgeous, feels awesome inmy hand, I bought an Otterbox Commuter case for it and love it. My opinion for what its worth, I would take this over the S3 any day.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mclaser:
I picked up the Inc4 yesterday after having a the Inc2 since ~ Nov (I think), and running CM7 (then 7.2) for past several months. I snuck in under the wire last week with a Unl Data UG which I used on the Nexus, then exchanged it for the Inc4 within the 14 days. The screen on the Nexus was very nice but I couldn't get over the size (and weight) and having to always reposition the phone to hit something in the top left. Plus it's big in the pocket. I really missed being able to do everything with one hand in my pocket like I was used to. I was also able to put Jelly Bean on it for 2 days before I returned it. That was hard to give up! Because of a VZW mix up they gave me a free extended battery and didn't charge for the "restock fee" or the upgrade ($30…it never stops with them!). Still paid $199 -$50 MIR, which is too much.

The phone feels great: nice size, nice backing, buttons don't get easily mis-pressed, light-weight. The speed seems a little stuttery now and then to me, but it might be cause I just got off JB on the Nexus which was -- buttery -- ;) (heart pumping faster now..) I'm in a non-4G area so my battery life is probably suffering due to that, but I only got 6:23 this first day, with what I would call moderate use. I just downloaded the LTE onoff pgm so we'll see if it improves turning on LTE (if it works). It'll also be interesting to see what difference the Ext Batt makes. I don't think I'm going to want to use the big battery though as it kind of defeats the purpose of choosing this phone. BTW, trust me, you're going to want that right task button with JB. Once I started using it it was put to service as much as the others. JB keeps maybe 20 (didn't count, but more than 8) recent apps in cue vertically and a single tap on that button allows you to instantly jump back to exactly where you left off in another app. Once you fire a few off you just use that button to pop back and forth.

I tried to get used to the new HTC keyboard but it drove me crazy being a little different from Swype, which I've been using forever. (You can turn on trace under Keyboard/HTC Sense Input/Trace keyboard to make it work _similar_ to Swype.) Trying to install Swype was a pain as Sense apparently won't allow you to select an alternate keyboard. I was able to install it, enable it, but doing a long press in a entry window didn't bring up the Change Input requestor. I finally ended up installing Swiftkey 3 (which I previously purchased) and used its install menu to select Swype as the default. Anyone run into this or have a better way?

I really loved my Inc2 with CM7.2. This phone has the potential to be a much better phone. Come on JB CM10 where are you!? …it's been 2 days! Ha!

Ya, how do you get ride of that freak'n wifi nag?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
Huh? That's cheaper at launch than just about any other phone that's ever existed in this class of smartphones after the mail in rebate.

I think being in a non-4G area should actually improve your battery life since you're only on the 3G radio, which uses significantly less battery. I'm in a non-4G area and I'm getting 24 hours to a charge. Granted, I keep the brightness very, very low (my eyes don't adjust well to bright screens), so that's probably more than most people get. Disabling auto brightness and dropping your screen's brightness by about 10% won't be too noticeable and it should save you a lot of battery if your eyes can adjust to it. After 10 hours of use the screen has been accountable for 63% of the battery drain with 2 hours of screen on time, and that's with the screen brightness at about 25%.

That's good to hear. Actually, after using the phone more, I've found myself using the task button more and more. I'm actually appreciating it's there a lot more now.

Changing the input method is no longer done with a long-press in an entry window. Just selecting a text box and bringing up the software keyboard should add a notification in your pull-down menu called "Select input method" which works fine for me. I have NumberPad Keyboard installed and was able to switch to it fine, although I stuck with Sense because the NumberPad Keyboard doesn't scale well on qHD devices.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Pandalero:
You don't. Or, you can't, I should say. Not yet anyway. Apparently it's a VZW thing, not a Sense 4.0 thing as mentioned in an earlier post because the Galaxy S3 has it as well. Droid Life has an article about it. http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/06/yo-verizon-whats-with-this-ongoing-wi-fi-toggle-notification/

A nice rooting and ROMing will clear up that mess. :)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
Unfortunately, the Droid Life article is spot on. The reason for this Wifi toggle is the Share Everything plans. For the first time ever, the Verizon rep when I upgraded to this phone and migrated to Share Everything advised me on using Wifi when I was at home--they definitely never mentioned that before. This is, as usual, Verizon's damage control methods just doing more damage.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Makaveli1490:
Im getting mine tomorrow
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mclaser:
I hope you're right re the 3G. It makes sense, but I think the Nexus I was using couldn't switch properly as it would heat up just sitting there. Regarding lowering the brightness, I seem to remember that after installing CM7 I adjusted all the auto-brightness settings to much lower and I think you're right, that probably had a big positive effect on my battery life. ...next thing to try!

The

pull-down

menu! What/how/where/wha..I never thought of looking there! Nice how everything moves around on these phones! (menu especially)

Thanks for the tip!

I don't get the wifi nag: If you're NOT on unlimited don't they make MORE money if you stay on their network? I could see maybe popping it up if your unlimited and exceed, say ~5G.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dunderball:
Hi guys, new here.. loved the xda noob video.

Just wanted to drop by and say that I really like this phone too. I really think it's unfortunate that this device is constantly compared to the One series and how the release is also being overshadowed by the Galaxy S3 hype.

So I'm really sitting here hoping that there's a large enough community out there backing this phone.. cuz I really love it!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
This is primarily for mclaser, but it could be for anyone who is curious about the battery life on this phone. This is with the screen brightness at around 25% and about 2 hours and 30 minutes of screen uptime. Average signal strength is about -80 dBm. YMMV, obviously, but this demonstrates that the screen brightness has a gigantic effect on what battery life you may see with this phone. The S4 is so efficient on battery that even heavy processes (I'm talking Chrome, Zynga games, etc.) barely have an impact.

(Oh, and I've been on WiFi all day. That's another relevant point, of course. I'm in a non-4G area, so I couldn't tell you how well the battery does with 4G, but I would guess that this image significantly overestimates what you'd see if you had 4G enabled all day. You'd probably still squeeze at least 18 hours out of it with this usage, though, as reviews like Engadget's have corroborated.)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mthornto88:
Yeah I noticed they took away the option to change the Network Mode. I did a search on Verzion Wireless under support and there is an article that says the phone does not have the option to switch the mode. It doesn't even have the option to switch to Home only for roaming. It looks like the software is half setup which is surprising for how long we have waited for the phone.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Grnlantern79:
Wow I am getting similar battery on my Rezound and I was waiting for this phone....I wonder if it is cause they are using a smaller battery or a cheaper S4 that the One Series uses. Guess I will be waiting till all 5 Nexus devices are released at end of year and really can't wait till new battery technology comes out that last a week and only takes 15 mins to recharge. Standard battery non-rooted phone, on latest leak .10 ICS leak
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mclaser:
Ok, I'm going to try to run all day at 10-25% brightness and Wi-Fi on. If I can get >12hrs or so I'll be pretty happy. Update forthcoming...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] eng3:
while at the store comparing to my orig INC, I was trying to get the screen brightness's to match so I had a fair comparison. I noticed that the auto-bright on the inc4g is alot brighter. I think the screen itself is brighter. I had my orig inc set to 100% and had to set the inc4g to like 60-70%.

so maybe the increased brightness is causing the battery to drain faster. Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity of the auto-bright? maybe there is an app for that.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] andybones:
how many times have you run the battery from full to end?

you need to let the battery calibrate, having a Rezound I am having real high hopes this battery does not suck like the Rezound and is more like the Inc2 with overheating as well.

fingers crossed

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it's built into CM ROMs, the only Sense ROM I've ran it on is inc2 SkyRaider and been dieing for someone to add it in.

Jan may have it in the Venom Tweaks but cant say for sure.

but yes you can edit the brightness values to be lower.

but having the CM display settings is awesome IMO
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Makaveli1490:
Wooooo I got mine
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
But... why? What could be the practical usefulness of that? Perhaps others disagree, but I am at the point where my only stipulation for a phone is that the battery consistently makes it with at least a 20% cushion remaining from when I take it off the charger in the morning to when I put it back on at night... I don't see why a phone would ever need to last more than 24 hours because there's no reason not to plug it in when you sleep. With my usage patterns, this phone's battery has been well exceeding that stipulation--last night I plugged it in at 49% after a full day of use.

Experienced the 4G network for the very first time with this phone. The speed of Verizon's 4G network is a little disappointing in the Buffalo, NY region, but the battery seemed to hold up decently well, although a slightly faster drain when idle was noticeable.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Makaveli1490:
Did HTC make it as you can't use other keyboards? Please say no

I dont know how to change the keyboard. Use to hold and input would pop up. Do I have to restart the phone?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
No. Enable another keyboard in "Language and input" in Settings, select a text box to toggle the HTC Sense Input keyboard, and then pull down the notifications menu to see "Select input method" as a notification.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Grnlantern79:
Who would not want a battery to last long and quick recharge....I mean say you are on vacation and forget to pack charger, no buying a new one it will last 7 days, or you normally charge on way to work and wife takes charger to her car yes it happens, you will only have to charge it once a week. It should be out in like 4 years from articles I read so not getting happy just yet, only looking forward to it, that will surely put an end to any talk about battery life unless someone really picky brings up I am only getting 4 days out of my battery. Can't wait to read that, really buddy????
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Makaveli1490:
Ooooh nice

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Ok another question. We no longer have the Flashlight anymore? I'm supposed to get it from HTC Hub? I dont see any HTC apps
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dbrits:
No, no flashlight app, but I just downloaded one from the Play Store. Works just fine.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Rnd0209:
I'm loving it! Came from an SGS3 on at&t. I also had the One X but no removable battery and memory slot made me go to the SGS3 then I saw the DincLTE and it was everything I wanted plus the form factor! Sold the SGS3 on eBay for $670 and bought this for $98 at wallmart!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] junkmail9:
I love my Dinc4 so far. Upgraded from OG Dinc. Size is great (OG was a bit better). Having the power button on the opposite side is taking some getting used to. I keep pushing the headphone jack :P

More responsive than my previous, and it's 4G. Very nice.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] rpc180:
I just got the first scratch on the phone - 3 days, was seriously babying it. Very small (1-2mm) less than a hairline nick in the top right of the screen, probably a stray sand particle or something. The distortion is usually always covered by the top action menu / status bar and even doesn't really show up on white background unless on 100% brightness.

Get a screen guard. I just dropped the Verizon branded one on it and its a pretty good bargain - full screen cover, feels similiar to the Seidio crystal guards. Probably will get scratches faster than other brands but better than the screen getting nicked in more noticable places.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
gotta say, really liking it so far!

(aside from stupid wifi off notification, and usual vzw bloat...but both are easily remedied)

dev unlocked, and off we go!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] blazingwolf:
I hope so. :) Been trying to do the trick they found for the SG3 and it hasn't been working. Do you plan to modify framework files to get rid of it?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] *Madmoose*:
The one thing I can't seem to get rid of is the wireless nag.

But you are absolutely right...this phone is the best phone I've purchased to date.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
should be able to just rip it out of the layouts, or turn it off in smali

(visibility=gone might work too)
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] blazingwolf:
OK. I've got so much to learn to be able to do this stuff right. lol.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] *Madmoose*:
I'll be honest with you here, I'd love to be able to do this stuff. It's the learning of Linux that holds me back. Just a daunting process to me.

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I think the things I would want the most are:

1) Wifi nag killed

2) Location Icon killed

3) Battery % display

4) 5 column app drawer (if its feasible with a narrow screen)

5) Working APM

6) Having a Notification/Quicksettings tabs on the pulldown menu like Rezound / Thunderbolt do.

7)Working tweaks would be awesome and probably take care of most of the things on my list, but that's probably gonna be a while.

More or less a wish list I guess.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
1-6 are easy enough

as for 7, ive talked to j4n87 about maintaining team venom roms for the inc 4g, so we ll see what comes of that :fingers-crossed:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] *Madmoose*:
Wow, that would be amazing if they support the Inc 4g....omfg.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] blazingwolf:
Linux isn't so bad once you take the plunge. I usually find myself in Linux under most circumstances now. I've been working on the rest for awhile now but one thing I keep putting off is learning smali and java. I'm now working on the java and will hope that some smali understanding comes with that (probably not but I can hope right?).

Anyways, I'm getting off topic.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] zackiv31:
I've only had it a couple hours now (coming from the original Dinc)... and I love it.

Can't believe the speed difference. Shelled out for full retail to be able to keep my unlimited data (although the VZ sales rep "mistakenly" upgraded me to 2GB plan, so I had to go back to the store to get it resolved). It's just fast. As someone who has been turned off by all the huge phones out there, this phone is a beauty. Getting 20/20 speeds in NYC on 4G.

As an original Dinc user, is there anything available like unrevoked in order to root? I'm trying to follow the developer forum http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1588 but its a bit more confusing with TOOL/MOD/ROM threads. I know it's still the first week since it's release, just wondering what to expect. I probably won't be savvy enough to help with the process, but I have seen some donations button around I'd be happy to contribute to.

tl;dr: I love it, how do I root?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] *Madmoose*:
Unfortunately there isn't an unrevoked for this phone. But the toolkit stickied in t he developers forum is extremely easy to use. Watch the video on how it's used...incredibly easy.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] andybones:
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Well ur wish list will be my first MODs, APM I already have working and wake on vol.

stuff anooys crap outta me too!hehe

I do all my work using Windows.

weird, I know as everyone usese Linux.

I personally use Cygwin for things like deodexing and the Android Kitchen, but I'm no DEV so really no need for the kitchen for me anyway.

windows serves me well for doing all my MODs

hope this helps, I'm not saying don't use Linux, just mentioning Windows, can be used.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] rpc180:
Over the last few days I've been playing with both my OG DInc (now relegated to wifi only) and the 4G. I even made the home screens as simliar as possible to see if there were any major differences in display.

My OG DInc has the amoled screen and it has much better contrast than the 4G. The 4G wins on brightness. Kind of a shame as I like the punchy colors of the OG DInc much more!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] *Madmoose*:
Very interesting. I think I'll be spending the next couple of days reading up on Android developing. I would really like to develop some things that are in my head. I'm mostly a corporate user and would love to streamline some things for our userbase :)

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Yes, I think the only thing this phone needs to make it perfect is an Amoled display. I too really like the contrast of the amoled OG Dinc. I'm curious if battery life is drastically different between the two screen technologies.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] spectre559:
Now that it's been about 6 months, are you still happy with the device? Any regrets? I've been out of contract for a couple months, and even after seeing the HTC DNA beast, I'm looking at this because it's like the perfect size phone.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] junkmail9:
Still happy with mine. I was content, but mildly frustrated with stock. However, with root (and s-off), I have been much happier being able to customize to my liking. Having TiB and nandroid backups again is such a nice safety net, too.

Sent from my Fireball using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mdmower:
I got this specifically because of its smaller size. I am beginning to think the screen is a bit cramped for today's apps though. Developers are building apps with a focus on the 4.7" screen as standard now, so running them on our device requires very precise touch work.

The phone is also heavy for having a mere 4" screen. Dare I say it's a bit thick by today's standards as well?

Overall, I'm not very enthusiastic about my phone anymore. It's just kind of getting me by until I see a new Verizon phone that tips me over the fence (so far there are none, the S3 is close but not enough; the dna is just stupid big.).
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Linch89:
I feel you bro just hang in there. Stupid big with 4 cores
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] j13smiley:
i came from an original inc which was great!

my biggest concern was screen size - i can say that i can tell the difference in this phone compared to the stock of the original inc. i honestly don't think i could go any bigger... unless i no longer want to be able to carry my phone in my pocket.

i still think this phone is great!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] motionUS:
Just picked one up on eBay. Should be here in a week. Switching from the iphone. I need to break free from Apple.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] swenpro:
I had the DNA for a week, and sold it to buy the Inc 4G. I haven't regretted the decision at all. I said it when I owned the Inc 2 and I'll say it again, I think 4" is a perfect phone size. It's also very affordable if purchased second-hand, off-contract, which is great if wanting to keep unlimited data. The Android answer to the iPhone!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
hello XDA,

im currently running cleanrom 4.0 (amazing rom btw) . before i flashed any roms i made a nand backup of stock 1.73. if i went ahead and restored that backup would i be able to go ahead and run an OTA update then re-root / re-unlock if needed? i know i can install the RUU but if restoring the backup could work, itd make it easier lol. im not planning to do this, but i am wanting to find out just in case and for the future. thank you for your time
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Yes you can do that but there's no reason to IMHO
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Genetic517:
thank you gunny (thanked :good: ) . and yes i do agree, but if i ever wanted to go back to stock (for whatever reason) this to me would be easier than installing an RUU.