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[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] slacka-vt:
No worries. :laugh: I actually have a gripe already -looks like they did away with the FriendStream widget ?! There's a Twitter HTC widget but nothing for FB but the totally lame FaceBook widget that comes with the FaceBook app. I like having the Twitter and Facebook feeds combined in the FriendStream widget. Call me lame . . .
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] adam10:
I picked up one this morning to replace my galaxy nexus. (By the way, does anyone want a nexus)

So far I love it. I wanted a 4g phone that wasn't as big as a surf board. I don't need a huge screen as I will never watch TV or anything on it so this is perfect.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
im sure we can fix that easily given that friendstream does exist for sense4 on the other phones :p
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Makaveli1490:
Honestly if I didnt miss school 2 weeks ago, I would leave work and go straight to picking this phone up. I wonder should I do that.... hmmm....
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demarcmj:
Fo free? :cyclops:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] y2jdmbfan:
Are we sure it isn't in there? That it is a deal breaker for me, FriendStream is the best feature of Sense for me.

Y2J
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
even if its not, would be a very easy (id think) fix for custom stock-ish roms
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mthornto88:
Did anyone try the back door method the rezound has? This is one of the features I was wanting as well. Here is how the Rezound works.

(*#*#4636#*#* in dialer, then phone information) there is a option for "Global Mode" and ones for "WCDMA Only" and "GSM Only"
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] marky2mark:
So that's all it takes to turn on global mode? Do you have to be rooted?

I think you have to pre-pay for data from verizon before you go right? Like $25/100 mb. So they wouldn't care that you went in and turned on global mode yourself?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Based on your post logic used in the other thread this kind of discussion should be posted in a different thread based on this ones title...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] maqsur:
Was a longtime user of several phones, including Dinc2, and Rezound.

Picked up the 4g lte today, and I gotta say from the limited time I have with it, I am enjoying it. The biggest plus so far is the nice sharp screen. In fact, I like it more than the rezound's 720 p screen because this one is NOT scaled, so everything looks nice and crisp, and the fonts aren't too big.

Sense 4 on this phone seems pretty snappy and smooth, minimal if any lag on certain scrolls, but they are rare. Haven't made phone calls yet. 4g (here in LA county) is variable in terms of speed... from 300 KB/sec to 1.1 MB/sec. I think that is maybe more related to network congestion.

Form factor of the phone is basically the same as the Dinc2, which is a good thing, but I find this one to be easier to hold in my hands, with softer edges. Also, buttons are easier to press than the Dinc2, which is a plus. Battery door easy to open, and doesn't have flex/creaking. Another nice feature is that the SIM tray and SD card tray are both on the side of the phone, so you don't have to remove the battery to access anything, only the back cover.

All in all, I am pleased so far. Hope to continue the enjoyment, and hopefully will see some nice interest in this phone. Only question remaining is whether the bootloader will be unlocked (either by HTCdev, or otherwise). Honestly, though, Sense 4 on this phone is pretty snappy and quick, so I can overlook this even if we don't get AOSP. But nothing wrong with more options, of course, thanks to any and all devs who know how to cook roms, because I sure don't know how to.

:) Thanks for reading!
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] adam10:
no sir
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] thelandon:
I understand that you initial posters have your shiny, new phone that you paid for, so please don't flame me for offering what the OP suggested, ie: initial thoughts.

I used the phone briefly in the Verizon store today. I have lots of experience with Sense, having used and rooted both a Droid Incredible and an HTC Rezound. That said, I should state that my bias leans toward Senseless and ASOP roms.

Compared to my Rezound running ConRom, I found the Incredible 4G on Sense 4 to be laggy when it came to screen transitions, ie: opening/closing the market, updating apps, transitioning between Sense home screens, etc. I'm not one of those "The Rezound is the best Android phone out" guys either. I was honestly hoping that this phone would be a significant upgrade over the Rezound. If I still had the ability to keep unlimited data and burn my existing upgrade, my choice would still be either the Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus.

I am envious of the Incredible 4G due to it's form-factor. It's feels great in the hand, light but not too light, and has the same nice rubberized-texture that the Inc 2 and Rezound have.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] blazingwolf:
I wasn't running ComRom on my Rezound but so far my experience has been the exact opposite. The Incdreble 4G has had no lag like the Rezound does. Plus, Sense 4 runs circles around the Rezounds version of Sense.

Besides, It's hardly a fair comparison to pit a custom ROM against stock anything.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mthornto88:
Global mode is something different. What I am talking about is buying a prepaid sim overseas or using it with t-mobile/att&t. The command doesn't work because Verizon disabled it but if you download the Thunderbolt LTE on/off app in the play store you can change it to GSM only. The options are there so the phone is capable like everyone said. I just got back from receiving the phone and the app works in switching to 3G. The sim for this phone is now a micro-sim so for someone to test they would need to trim a regular sim and put it in. This settings works for voice only. To send SMS and MMS, we need a dev to fix the ROM. That's how they did it with the Rezound. Or we wait for Verizon to enable all the functionality.

So far I am liking the phone. It's more like the original incredible than the incredible 2.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Go to htcdev site and go through the unlock process there. Just select other devices if this one isn't listed...pretty painless process and easy...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
Stock vs stock would be the best comparison ;)

But that wouldn't be fair cuz the rezound is on gb officially
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] demarcmj:
Boooo. Ha
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] thelandon:
True. That does seem fair. I should note that my Rezound isn't overclocked and that it's running a previous generation processor. I figured the S4 chip would make the Inc 4G fly. While it's not bad for stock, I see no reason why lag could or even should exist with Android ICS and a Snapdragon S4. Did my Rezound lag in stock form? Yes. Unfortunately, so does the Inc 4G. Just be aware that those pretty Sense widgets and launcher seem to slow down some otherwise great hardware.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] maqsur:
Can't say I've really had a lag per say, other than very rarely. Definitely runs smooth compared to my old rezound.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] maqsur:
I will check it out thanks, figured they would put the device specifically since it is in the well known "droid" lineup.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] HypostaticOnion:
Yes. I want a nexus.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
Went into the Verizon store and got mine earlier today, probably being the first member of this forum to ever migrate to Share Everything willingly. haha

This phone is exactly what I was hoping it would be. It's a dream for anyone who enjoys the Incredible series of phones. It's a joy to hold in hand and requires no adjustment; it already feels natural to me. Sense 4 blazes and is a gigantic improvement over previous iterations of Sense that always looked pretty but demolished performance. Task switching lags just a little bit sometimes (the one area in which the phone shows symptoms of its underclocking) but every other Android function is very smooth. There's no question that custom ROMs will do this phone some good, but for a stock ROM, it's outstanding and definitely good enough to satisfy me until the dev community on this phone breaks through.

Also, if you're coming from a previous-gen phone with a menu button like me, you should be relieved to know that adjusting to the new built-in menu ICS interface is pretty painless. The phone creates a shortcut (either in the upper-right corner or at the bottom of the screen) on-screen in almost every app that requires menu commands. Only time I had a problem was Winamp's intro screen, but that was minor and easily fixable by reopening the app.

One warning, though--if you're coming to this phone from a device running AOSP ICS like I did, you're going to have a big adjustment period going through the menus in Settings. I am not a fan of how Sense organizes the Settings app--everything feels a little bit cluttered compared to stock ICS, where there are clear categories.

Long story short, if you're a fan of the Droid Incredible series or someone who prefers more compact, smaller-screen phones, this is a dream phone for a great price. Although the original Incredible's ICS has made great strides and runs pretty well, the smoothness of this device puts it to shame (of course, it would--not saying that that's a surprise, because it's designed to run ICS well, just confirming it) and makes it worth the upgrade.

EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention one thing, and it's unfortunately a con: The volume rocker is WAY too big. I have no idea why HTC made it that big but the Volume Up button alone is like the size of the whole rocker on the original Incredible. There's also a pretty sizable gap between Volume Up and Volume Down in the middle which can be really frustrating. I'd mention the fact that pretty much everything from the original Incredible is reversed (power button and headphone jack switched places, etc.) but it appears that that was the case with the Incredible 2 as well, so most of you will probably not find that surprising.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] maqsur:
Just had to say, I actually also willingly entered into the Share Everything Plan... last week! :eek:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dbrits:
A very quick rundown on my initials thoughts; I'm tired so if this doesn't make sense...

First, the good:

The form factor is amazing. I can use it with one hand and I love how it feels in my hand. Compared to the Rezound - which I used for just over a week - it feels as light as a feather but incredibly solid and well-built. I already purchased a slim silicon case for it at Verizon but the added bulk is negligible.

It's snappy. Makes my OG DInc (which was rooted and pushed to its absolute limits) look like a geriatric.

I've taken a few short calls in the past hour and the call clarity was very good. Data speeds seemed on par for what I get in my area. I live in a 3G area and drove from a 4G area to 3G area while streaming music through Spotify. No breaks in the music.

The bad:

I'd like to smack whoever decided to nix the menu button. I've always liked HTC's hardware but I think they dropped the ball by removing the menu button. The lack of a menu button causes a black "settings bar" to appear on the bottom of the screen for any app that hasn't yet fully implemented the ICS design standards. It's stupid, and it cuts down on valuable screen real estate. When I launch TweakDeck, instead of seeing more tweets at the bottom of my screen, I'm seeing a black bar with three small vertical squares at its center. It's continually resizing Apex Launcher's wallpaper when I try to launch my calendar/Astrid Tasks from Pure Calendar's Agenda widget.

The "multitask" button is ridiculous, especially when long-pressing the home button would have produced the exact same result. Could have put a menu button there instead, folks. (Devs, when this phone is rooted and custom roms are cooked up, is it possible for the multitask button be remapped as a menu button?)

As usual, the phone has its fair share of Verizon bloatware. I can't wait until the phone is rooted and I can delete that crap. Plus, I've never been the biggest fan of Sense in any of its incarnations as I prefer AOSP or Senseless roms.

Even though I sound bitter, I really do like the phone. I swear I do, lol.

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Oh, I completely agree. The CM9 Settings Menu was a beautiful sight. Plus, I prefer the menus on a dark background, not a white background.

Like you said, custom roms will do this phone a world of good. If my OG DInc could run CM9 without any major problems, I can't wait to see what potential custom roms will unlock for the DInc 4G.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
Whoa! We're nearly mythical here. I just had to sit back and watch everyone go up in arms about losing unlimited and thinking to myself, "This is actually going to save my family money..."

Also, dbrits: I agree that not having a menu button is a little frustrating when using non-streamlined apps, especially in the examples that you gave where the three-dot button at the bottom is unattractive and hogs a lot of space. I wouldn't blame HTC, though; Google is more culpable. The whole ICS design philosophy opposes the menu button because it is not "discoverable"--I don't really understand that one, but I have seen less seasoned smartphone users get confused by the menu button--so excluding it is just bending to Google's wishes for the future of Android. I will actually probably prefer the lack of a menu button once most apps fully transition to the ICS-style top-right menu.

That being said, I, too, find the multitask button a little ridiculous. I don't necessarily mind using it, but long-pressing Home was easy enough and half of my presses of the button are accidental by the base of my thumb. I think HTC would've been better off just having Back and Home buttons and moving the two closer to the center.

Is it just me or is vibrate really weak? Maybe that's just because the original Incredible vibrated like a chainsaw, though.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] tbaker077:
How is the color clarity of the SLCD2 vs the Rezound?
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] maqsur:
Color is good so far, seems like rezound but this screen is brighter
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Na not likely...the EVOLTE wasn't listed separately....don't think they have the need to do that anymore till the phones are locked in a different manner...
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] HTCVzw:
I came across this site this morning. So I bought my phone for $99.:laugh: Its that price for an upgrade or new line of service! mobile.geigerint.com:cool:
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Terry Hesticles:
Got the phone yesterday at a Best Buy (after calling a few). I love the size of the phone and going from the original INC to this phone was perfect. My only issue so far is that that the WiFi icon never goes away. I liked the original (rooted) INC were the WiFi icon would only show up when you are connected. On this phone, it is there all the time (whether off or scanning, etc.) I know it is not a big deal but for some reason it is bothering me. Has anyone gotten this icon to disappear?

Thanks,

Matt
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] Pandalero:
This is annoying me as well. Just crowds the notification bar. Been trying to figure out how to remove it.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] nitsuj17:
seems like you can get it new/upgrade on lets talk for 20/40 respectively
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] fsiddique:
This is a "feature" of Sense 4. The first few Sense 4 ROMs for the Rezound had this "feature" as well, we just have to wait for the devs to release a custom ROM with it removed.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] marky2mark:
Ok got it. Thanks.

Sounds like a lot of hassle, especially for voice only. I'm looking for text and email too.

I went to the Verizon store yesterday to check out the phone. I asked the sales guy and he said they will be coming out with an update "soon" to enable global mode. I asked how soon. He said "well the Rezound is 6 months old and just got the update, so I'm guessing 6 months". I guess that's Verizon's idea of "soon".

If the hardware supports it and it's such a simple software update, I don't see why they couldn't just include it from day one. Makes no sense to me. I have to say....Verizon really sucks.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] void4ever:
Morning guys,

I was wondering if you guys had any thoughts on this phone vs an old Droid X. So far you all seem to have positive things to say.

I've been rocking my X for sometime now running Liberty and i love it, but unfortunately the charge port is getting a little old. It's time to start looking at a new phone. The razr maxx interested me until i saw it didn't have a removable battery.

I've been reading the reviews on this one and it seems to have everything I'm looking for. The size looks good, removable battery, 4g, and even NFC which atm is a gimmick but hey it's nice to have the option. If i can hold out until it gets rooted i think it might be my next phone.

But i was just wondering if anyone had an opinion.

Void4ever
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
Anybody else notice that this device charges really quickly? Battery life seems great too, although I've been mostly on WiFi.

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Whoops, sorry, didn't see your message before I posted my last one. Obviously, circumstances may be different by the time this device gets root (we'll have to see how well the developer community grows, although I already see a couple big names in this thread that bode well for the future) but at the moment, I'd very highly recommend this phone for what you're looking for. Phones with a removable battery are, unfortunately, a dying breed (always form over function...) so if you want one, this phone is probably going to be the newest one for a while. Screen size should feel natural coming from your Droid X and it'll be a nice big performance boost for you. I also think it's best to jump off the Motorola train at this point since they seem to be the only major manufacturer remaining that is still stubbornly locking down their bootloaders. (I had hoped the Google acquisition would change Motorola's policies, but it has not.) Since HTC runs a website that will unlock your bootloader for you, you are more or less guaranteed to have a root-capable phone regardless of what OTA updates may come in the future.

Since most contracts are 2-year and thus most people look into buying a phone they'd be comfortable keeping for two years, I'd say NFC is more than a gimmick. The telcos are trying their best to strangle Google Wallet, but something big with NFC WILL happen eventually. They cannot stifle innovation forever, especially if the major credit card companies jump on board with their own solutions. I'm willing to bet at some point in 2 years' time you'll be glad you purchased a phone with NFC capabilities.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dbrits:
Yeah, I noticed that about the charge time too. Seems to be the same as the Rezound I test drove last week, and definitely faster than my OG DInc on its stock kernel.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] void4ever:
Thank you very much for your insights, all of it was quite helpful. The X I've got has been a trooper and I'm sad to see the hardware failing as i love the Liberty rom, but such is life. It is a work phone so it sees a LOT of use (I'm a sysadmin if thats any indication). One of the reasons i was looking for a removable battery was so i could get an extended sometime down the road.

It would be nice to get some ICS going though, and i just recently saw the release/review of Jelly Bean and that looks very exciting as well.

I hope the mod community picks up on this phone quickly, but honestly i think i may end up getting it sooner than later simply because i may not be able to charge the X much longer.

I've never posted here before but i lurk for hours on end quite often and i just want to thank everyone in this community for the work you guys do. Everything from the personal reviews to the rom bakers, all of it is appreciated!

Void4ever
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] mthornto88:
Yeah it is at this point. But a lot of people would rather by a sim in the country they are in versus paying Verizon a ton of money to use your existing number. They rape us on their rates. Once the devs get on this phone, you will be able to do both use GSM and LTE like the Rezound.

And I think that sales guy lied to you. I have the Rezound and the official update hasn't come out yet. We didn't get ICS yet. There have been leaks but no official release.

Be patient, the developers will have a fix way before Verizon will have an update. The phone rocks. The size is perfect for me. So far the battery life is awesome compared to my Rezound. I don't have any complaints so far.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
Oh my god, I am so glad the lock screen automatically changes its shortcuts to whatever is in your dock. Replacing the Sense Mail shortcut with Gmail is painless.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dbrits:
Took me a while to figure that out since I'm using Apex Launcher. I had to clear my defaults to get back to Sense, switch up the icons in the dock, and then go back to Apex. However, I did notice that unlike the stock messaging and mail app, the Gmail app does not show an unread count on the lockscreen.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] polarimetric:
I'm sticking with the Sense launcher for now because I absolutely love the Sense 4 clock. It's unfortunate that HTC has still not opened Sense widgets to other launchers. But yeah, unfortunately HTC only included unread counts for the Sense apps, so Gmail doesn't get a number. Gmail also does not show emails on the Productivity lock screen from what I can tell, which is also annoying. But it's a minor gripe.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] thelandon:
I may have offered the most pessimistic review of the phone so far. However, I left out an important "pro" of the phone: Nitsuj owns it! I regretted not following him to the Inc 2 forum a year or so ago. You guys will have some outstanding roms and support very soon.