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[Motorola Atrix 2] Fall of Enosis:
So my phone shut off yesterday due to loss of battery power.

However, when I went to charge it, it would not charge when it was off.

IE: The battery picture with the "goo" in it that fills as it charges.

So since it wouldn't charge I was stuck at the a bootloop at the logo. Not animation.

Luckily my buddy at work has a Bionic that I was able to stick my battery into and charge. If not for that I would have been screwed.

Now I know I have personally a MILLION posts due to this problem and I'm wondering.

Who else can't charge while the phone is shut off? Is this due to CWM on boot? Our modded ROM's? If this is true for you, are you rooted? Stock ROM? CWM on boot?

We should really find a way to fix this. We need to be able to charge while the phone is off. This would save a lot of people headaches. Thoughts?
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
You CAN charge in this situation, but it is a real PIA, and you have to really keep playing with it until you get the sequence correct.

It is a little dance like this:

1) power off.

2) take the battery out.

3) plug the phone into the wall socket, not a usb computer connection, with the battery out!

4) HOLD the power button to turn the phone on

while the dual core screen comes up, hold the power button for a very long time, and the phone will eventually shut off.

5) put the battery back in the phone and put the back on, the phone may try to power on again, and you may have to due 1-4 all over again, or you can HOLD the power button for a VERY long time again until it powers off.

Now if it turns off, you should see the white light come on and that means it is charging.

Note the timing is key and you may have to play around to get it exact, because two of the different exchanges of my phones each had a slight different sequence to make it work.
[Motorola Atrix 2] lkrasner:
Won't it also charge in stock recovery? I know that's not really off, but it is low power.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Not sure, I have never tried it. I have however done what I have mentioned during a boot loop MANY times now, and never had an issue. Once you figure out the EXACT steps it takes, it just becomes second nature. Oh and like I said, it can be just slightly different even between two different A2s, but it is only like a millisecond here or a slight step there, that is different, or maybe when the battery goes in and or comes out of the phone...

I can assure you though that it does work to get you a full charge before a flash after and during a boot loop.
[Motorola Atrix 2] lkrasner:
Good to know. I have a family member with the same phone, so when I kill mine and need to flash I just steal her battery for a few minutes.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fall of Enosis:
So this happened to me again. Accidentally let the phone discharge. Not to worry, I'm not bricked. But now again I'm gonna have to charge my phone battry on my buddies bionic. BUT WHY WON'T OUR PHONES CHARGE WHILE THE IT'S OFF?

I shouldn't have to be paranoid if my phone dies.

I guess I never really got an answer to my OP, while I got it reconciled, it'd be nice to have an answer.

In GB, if your phone was off (powered completely down) you could plug it in, and the screen would come on with the battery that had the goo that would fill up as it charged. I seem to have lost this capability ever since I have rooted and started running custom ROMS. WHY?

So, four questions remain: Why is this happening? And is it happening to anyone else? If you're unsure, can you test it for me (see if your phone will charge while off) and most importantly. HOW TO FIX IT?

It's a little infuriating. :(
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
I've never had this happen to me. I know that's not helpful in your circumstance. My phone will shut off at the '0% battery level' and I can plug into my wall charger or USB to my laptop, and goo I get. I'm wondering if its your charger? The Moto chargers seem to be a little on the shoddy side. I've replaced all of mine with other non-Moto wall chargers. And as you know, if you're completely out of juice, USB may not have enough current to charge it back to full. Just my thoughts.

Sent from my Atari Falcon030
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fall of Enosis:
Thanks for the thoughts mate, but it doesn't matter what I try to charge it on? Will it charge for you no matter what ROM?
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Ok I am going to answer this finally, for you....

The battery screen with the "goo" is a "boot hijack", we have stolen that ability to use it for CWM/bootsrtap and it's boot hijack replaces it. YOU CAN NOT LET YOUR PHONE FULLY DISCHARGE. When you get to less than 10% find a place to start charging it, or turn the phone off until you can connect it to a charger.

Sometimes we have to rob peter to pay paul, and in this case we "stole" that ability to get to CWM on a boot with either bootstrap and BP tools, or the J.Y.Daddy hack, but either of those steal this same boot hijack "space".
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fall of Enosis:
PERFECT JIM! Thanks man. I just wanted to understand why it was doing it. Thanks so much! Although that doesn't explain why Apex is able to charge lol. I figured since I was stock(ish) ICS that it wouldn't matter? Although I did use bootstrap to flash Altered's carrier remover zip. And maybe Apex is completely stock.

EDIT: I grabbed my buddies bionic to stick my battery into to charge, and his is rooted running a custom and they use safestrap as their recovery, however when his boots up, it boots into safestrap and then starts charging with the goo.

How come Bionic can do it and we can't? WAH! :(
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
That's interesting. Any idea why I don't have any problem from a full discharge-to-shut off and charge problem? I've not done anything that anyone else hasn't, I mean, I rooted, installed the bootstrap, J-Y-Daddy CWM, flashed myself silly, edited "this" and "that" and tweaked "these" and "those". Never found myself not being able to charge after a shut down... :confused:

Edit: I'm running Lithium v.1.3.1

Edit #2: Knocking frantically on wood! Hope I didn't just jinx myself!

Sent from my Atari Falcon030
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
You probably have something with the logwrapper and boot hijack link that is not fully correct... that is what actually does the boot hijack.

Here is where we started to think about this whole thing, just so people can see how we got to where we are with these hacks... yes this is quite old..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1341198
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
So, I'm wondering if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I suppose its good for the sake that I don't have the charging after dead issue, but could it pose any others? I've had things this way for 4 months...

Sent from my Atari Falcon030
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Good question, I am not really sure.. you are kind of the odd man out possibly.. I have had the battery after dead charge scree too before too with the boot hacks, and other times not so much... I think it has to do with how the hacks are done and the order they are all done in. I am not totally sure what that order is though.

Here are more links on the CWM history:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1335933

This is from the above thread but it talks about what I am saying, and how this all was finally made to work for us:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=19368661&postcount=24
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fall of Enosis:
See the EDIT in my previous post. The bionic boys "safestrap" recovery has the ability. I know cause I just used my buddies bionic to charge my battery. it boots into safestrap, and then if you don't choose recovery, or boot normally, poof, into battery charging.

It's interesting how they have it and we don't. Hmm...
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
safestrap is a little different.... I know I did the OG mods to make it work for us back in nov/dec. It uses a different hijack method, and we can't use that one on our phone, and thier recoveries don't work on our phone. :(
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fall of Enosis:
Time to pull a system.img! LOL!
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fall of Enosis:
By the way folks, with the release of our spiffy new recovery (Thanks whirley and Luk!) This thread is no longer an issue. Since the battery monitoring had been removed for the boot hijack with the bootstrap.apk we could not charge with the phone off.

NOW, I tested it and we can. Apparently the removal of the battery monitor was not an issue with the new recovery. HOORAY! We should have no more people complaining about dead batterys!
[Motorola Atrix 2] mikea29:
I had this issue this morning and I thought my phone had bricked at first since I installed SCv7 late last night. My phone shut off at 3% and it would not allow me to charge it and it would not turn on at all. I tried Jim's method a few times; did not work for me. I am on SCv7 ICS, rooted, and I do have Bootmenu installed. I went and bought another battery today, which I was going to do soon anyway; and Im going to buy a battery charger on Amazon, just in case. Im not quite sure how to fix it, but as long as I have an extra battery, I will be okay.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fall of Enosis:
Are you not able to charge while off? That issue has been resolved with the new recovery. What does it do when you try to charge it?
[Motorola Atrix 2] mikea29:
No, it would not charge after the power had gone off. Well, technically, when I plugged it into the USB of my laptop, the white light came on...which means it is charging right? It would not turn on still after the laptop charge. When I plugged it into the wall adapter..nothing! not even the white light. I let it sit there for an hour with the wall adapter and it still did not turn on. I have bootmenu installed and I uninstalled the Atrix 2 bootstrapper...so I have no idea what happened.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
Did the flash of SCv7 take, meaning was it successful? White light means it's not getting a charge (low/no power, cannot charge) so you'll either need to try the new battery or the McGuyver Method - assuming you haven't hard bricked the phone.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 Anti-MOTO Ballistic Missile
[Motorola Atrix 2] mikea29:
Yes...everything is running good. I think it might be from the first time I flashed to 2.3.5 before i was on ICS. I had a flash failure. Everytime I rebooted, it would go into the stock recovery and i would have to click Normal Powerup to actually reboot. Im on SCv7 ICS....no problems at all except the fact that I cannot charge while the phone is turned off...No big deal, I would like to figure it out but, I bought an extra battery and external battery charger just in case :)
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fall of Enosis:
I would check and make sure you have all the bootstrap misc files removed. Ie the hijack file. The battery monitor is part of the boot procedure and had to be removed to make sure it worked, but ever since we started using the new recovery that isn't an issue. Barry monitor want removed... Strange.

Check those files. See the recovery thread to see which ones need to be removed
[Motorola Atrix 2] gearhead3585:
i seen you guys say there is a fix to this issue. could someone please help me??? i am/was running ICS thru this method: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1779968 . i followed the steps properly, the only thing i have not done is ROOT it. i have been test-driving ICS before messing with root access. i installed ICS about a month ago. its been great! til now... the atrix 2 had died on me last week and i instinctively did jim's radom button pushing trick with battery out, got boot screen and put the battery back in, got it charged. last night it died again.... and it wont respond to the trick again..... plugged into wall - nothing.... plugged into PC SOLID WHITE LIGHT comes ON. in PC tried trick and responses as followed - plug in(battery out), solid white light, battery in, solid white light remains, HOLD vol down and power, white light turn off, windows 7 chimes in a USB connection, then chimes out, chime in , chime out, chime in, chime out, in, out, in, out, in, out,in, out! i opened RSDLite RDSlite does not see the device (while continuing to chime in and out over and over again...)

i see that most of you have gotten a spare battery and the battery only charger. i plan to do the same, but at this moment i have started a new job and wont be getting paid for 2 1/2 weeks(bi-weekly pay shed.)... do you guys think i can cut a corner and just get the charger for now, and remove the battery when needed??? also does anyone know if the BIONIC extended battery cover fits the atrix2(camera is the same from pics of ext batt. w/ cover)

i know i need to test with a "known good battery" planning a trip to an AT&T store soon, just would rather do it myself cuz i bought the phone used over 6months ago and never had any issues prior to this "charge issue"

all help is very much appreciated!! thank you!!
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fall of Enosis:
I hate to say this but it sounds like you may have somehow borked your System. Can you boot into fastboot? If not, I'd say you're bricked. Not sure how this was accomplished, but that's what it sounds like mate.

If you can't boot into fastboot things don't look well.
[Motorola Atrix 2] venezuelanboy:
Hi guys. I have a problem with my Atrix 2 and wanted to know if you could guide me.

30% of the time that I connect via USB on the computer is restarted. And sometimes doing nothing is off and I have to remove the battery and stick it again.

Any idea what might happen?
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Is the phone randomly rebooting itself? Also, what exactly have you done to the phone: i.e.: are you rooted, have you installed a custom rom you're running, or any tweaks or mods you've made? The more information you can give, the more we can help... :D
[Motorola Atrix 2] venezuelanboy:
I know my words are not clear because my English is very poor and there is no page in Spanish on the Atrix 2.

It restarts when I connect to the computer and sometimes when I'm using.

Well, do not use any cooked ROM, I have the original AT & T 2.3.6
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
I know the original ATRIX 4G was having issues with random rebooting, but I've not seen much of that with the ATRIX 2. You might try a factory reset and see of that solves things for you...
[Motorola Atrix 2] lkrasner:
Not sure, but could be a bad cable. try another one.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Apex:
If the phone reboots randomly without being on charge or USB to PC, maybe a bad battery? I'd try the reset first, I seem to remember my girlfriend's ATRIX 4G rebooting itself at random, and I factory reset it -seemed to alleviate it. :confused:
[Motorola Atrix 2] lkrasner:
yeah, if it is just when plugging in, I would say bad cable, but otherwise, try a wipe.

EDIT: is it fully rebooting, or just hot rebooting (does it just go back to the animation, or totally turn off then come back up to the dual core screen)?
[Motorola Atrix 2] venezuelanboy:
Is complete, as if he had turned off ..

I did a factory reset as I said @ Apex_Strider and so far everything has gone well, I hope that does not happen rebot again haha

Thank you!
[HTC One X] HD2_Noob:
Hey,

on AOKP and CM Builds the "Bluetooth Pairing Dialog" show up, but on MIUI and SENSE it doesnt...

Are there any fixes ?
[HTC One X] broken flyer:
Hi, I am in a very tight spot and very high strunge right now. My brand spanking new HTC One X(I got it in the mail 3 days ago) appears to have bricked itself. It is completely stock, never rooted, and the only two apps I had on it were apex launcher and widget locker. The other night I decided since I'd been able to play with it for a bit I'd go ahead and update the software(it had an update available out of the book). OMFG. Everything was fine till I hit install and even then it looked fine until the install was complete and it went to reboot. This thing got stuck in the most vicous boot loop I've ever seen. It just got stuck rebooting over and over for right four hours before I was able to shut it down. It got so hot I couldn't hold it. I was worried I was going to get to watch my brand new $600 dollar phone melt before my eyes. Anyway I finally got it to turn off, either be it do to low battery or instability caused from excess heat and today when I tried to turn it for the first time came on but it just got stuck on the first screen didn't even make it to the boot animation. I held the power and luckily it shut off. I tried again and it won't even turn on now. I really need some help guys... This is my only phone. I had to dig out my old iTouch and use wifi to just get on xda. What should I do about this!? I'm so stressed right now... Please... Please... Help...
[HTC One X] Aleemz:
3 day old brand new phone?

Return it.

Either get your money back or get it replaced.

Why are you stressed? Stuff breaks, be glad it was in the first 3 days!
[HTC One X] H-KaN:
I wish I would have more knowledge to help you out.

Shut the phone down by holding power for 10 seconds. Then start it with Vol down and power. Let's see first what you get.

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[HTC One X] broken flyer:
Help, help, help, help... Got it to come back on by plugging it into my charger for a bit it went into the same exact boot loop that you can't shut down in. Lucky the battery died quickly this time it didn't have time to get hot, but good god this needs to get fixed ASAP and I don't have any idea what to do. I'm actually in a hospital right now and will be here for awhile it looks like, so needless to say I can't use my pc or probably would have figured it out on my own already instead of begging for help.
[HTC One X] H-KaN:
I guess you did update with low battery... Did you try what I wrote before? Volume down and power at the same time when you plug in usb.

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[HTC One X] n1kon:
Dude. Just send it back.
[HTC One X] broken flyer:
I didn't try it with a low battery... It was 70% when i started the update. The update was completed in 15 min without interuption. The bootloop started the second the update finished. the bootloop went on for 4 hours before it would even shut down and I held the power button for more then ten seconds some time and when it would shut down it immediately turned back on on it's own. When I tried turning it on today I intentially didn't charge it long just for the reason. And I haven't tried the power and volume yet(I can't reach the out let to plug in in, as I'm attached to an IV) me getting sick and this phone dying the first night at the hospital couldn't have happened at a worse time.
[HTC One X] broken flyer:
I can't I am in the hospital... Two days after getting my new phone my sore throat turned into mono so bad I can't drink water even. I'm on an IV and can't even reach the nearest out let let alone get to a computer and then ship this phone back. It's the only line of communication I had in here. Lucky I convinced my mom who was visiting me to drive home and get my old iPod. That's all I have right now.
[HTC One X] H-KaN:
But you can put it in charger before right? Put it in and then try Vol down and power at the same time.

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[HTC One X] broken flyer:
I had my mom plug in/turn on for me. I can't have her try the down vol and power(shes very tec illiterate and strugged just to turn it on. I had to plug it in for her and then she walked the whole charger over to the outlet and help it out so i could see what it was doing)as I can't see what's on the screen very well from 10 feet or so it wouldntbe worth trying to get her to try the key combo. Hopefully I can get a family member to bring me a short extension cord but until then I can't try it. What is the idea with what that's supposed to do? Does it by bass fast boot or completely resent the phone or?
[HTC One X] H-KaN:
Well I thought we could get in bootloader mode to factory reset the phone. Maybe it should work then. I can't think of another step. Not being such a pro on this sorry mate.

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[HTC One X] broken flyer:
Thanks just the same... I'm going to try the key combo before the night is through as I have an extension cord on the way. If I can do a factory reset I'm guessing I'll need to re enter my APN setting yes? This is such an inconvient timing of events. I'm gonna need someone to run home and get my notes for the proper apn for my network since this is an international phone I'm using in the us.
[HTC One X] H-KaN:
Can't you find the apn in the net? Let's hope we can get your phone work first then we'll see about apn.

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[HTC One X] broken flyer:
This doesn't look real promising... I got the cord, started it to the boot loader and eyerything is locked/disabled. Why would this thing have a locked boot loader when it's the unlocked international version?
[HTC One X] broken flyer:
And for the past 15 min it's said checking SD card update at the bottom of the boot loader menu. I'd say I either got a corrupted file or it something else went wrong during the down load that wasn't evident because it looked like that part went fine when I did the update.
[HTC One X] H-KaN:
You're on stock that's why it's shown locked and the checking sd thing... Are you in fastboot usb? Should be underlined in red

If there is fastboot usb written in red do following. Plug of the charger press power one time move down to factory reset and power again. Let's see what's happening.

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[HTC One X] broken flyer:
It didn't show any alternative boot options. Then I unplugged the charger and it showed up. I went down and I used the factory reset. It's working now except I need to re due my apn, i lost all my contacts, and Ill need to re download/set up apex along with widget locker.
[HTC One X] H-KaN:
At least it's working now. I guess you saved your contacts on gmail so this won't be a problem either. Apn search the net. Apex you have to do again yea.

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[HTC One X] xl VipeR lx:
glad its fixed! apn settings should be avaiable from google, gmail should automatically load your contacts. enjoy your 1x and get well soon
[HTC One X] broken flyer:
Ya except I didn't synce my contacts with gmail. Like I said I just bout this phone and I transferred my old contacts via blue tooth so I'll need to do that again. I dont mind doing apex and wig locker again but retyping the apn will not be fun. Thank you though for your help. I really appreciate it. You don't have any guesses as to why it went into that boot loop do you or how I can avoid it happening again? I rather like to have up to date software so that's gonna be a problem if it does that again. How about my CPU and battery? Do you think they're damaged after how hot it got in that boot loop and for how long?
[HTC One X] H-KaN:
I don't think that anything got damaged and i can't really understand how that could happen. I hear it the first time. I would have thought low battery but as you said it's not. Somewhere here is a thread which tells you how to make a backup with a non rooted stock rom. You can do that before every update to be on the safe side. But I can't imagine it gonna happen again.

Anyway your phone works everyone is happy now, get well soon and enjoy the time with your phone in hospital. ;)

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[HTC One X] xl VipeR lx:
I have come across one other case the phone crashed after updating. There was nothing wrong with the update as factory reset cured your problem. It could have been some setting on your phone or something you installed which caused the new firmware to FU.factory reset wipes ur settings and apps etc.

CPU and battery should be ok, download battery indicator from the market, it shows you battery health, phone normally tends to get hot anyway when you fo intense stuff, thats normal, lol you can't expect it to be cold, packign four quad cores at 1.5 GHZ per core. this thing is a beast!