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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] sarkozy:
The Charge and Stratosphere were limited to Touchwiz only development. It took ages to get a working RIL on the Fascinate (which is amazingly still being fully supported with CM9, AOKP, etc), and the added complexity of LTE basically ended AOSP ventures on those.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jamcar:
there is hope for you guys

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1754173

but this person was ( i am not sure if he/she still is) going to take it back! if you want a real fighting chance then post in that thread about keeping it!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] wellsey1126:
I read something about verizon may be pushing an update to make the g3 global ready. Could that be why the bootloader is locked???
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tonu42:
Think so. 10char.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jarnow94:
I don't, I just think Verizon doesn't want to support custom ROM users in any way. Verizon's already stated their position on locking bootloaders, and it isn't a good one to have.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ikhtiaralam:
Lol, i'm guessing people don't hate Tmobile that much for their high prices anymore. Verizon is the next victim.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] walkingagh:
ETF should be lower as it is not on Avanced Devices list

They did forget to put it on the advanced devices list, so canceling your contract should let you break even pretty easily.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mustbepbs:
I'm trying hard to care about this. I know I'll get reamed for saying it, but I had the Gnex before and I got really sick of wiping the phone every week for new builds and features. Sure it's nice to be able to get the latest and greatest updates, but it's at a cost (incompatibilities, aging hardware, subpar hardware).

I didn't buy the S3 to get the Nexus treatment, or else I would've stuck with the Nexus. The S3 has top of the line specs and a very solid stock experience. Better yet, it just works. No tweaking, no modding, no prodding. Samsung built a whole experience without the need to change things. Yes, people will complain about Touchwiz and the WiFi notification thing.

I guess my point is, the Nexus experience is all glitz and glamour until you feel like you're running a lab experiment. The S3 is a great device and it will be relevant for a long time. Just try to be happy with what you've got, relax, and at the very least, let the devs take a crack at it. It's way too early to jump to all of this ranting and raving. 90% of Verizon customers don't even have it yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tylerdurdin:
You have a decent point but the one thing you have to consider is 90% of the people on this forum are here for the development.....and the truth is, the "relevance" of this device is 12 months starting now...if you follow the S series as many of us do...we all know in 12-14 months we are getting our next device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mustbepbs:
That is definitely true. I'm just putting my opinion out there as someone who was really into the scene, but now just wants to enjoy the experience instead of the experiment.

My main point is, just wait. Don't open your package if you're that on the fence about it. Wait for the developers to take a crack at it at least. If Samsung has any heart, maybe they left a loophole for us.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
That's how I started to feel after a while too with my last few phones. I had the gs3 for a week and everything was flawless. No hiccups, no fc, nothing. Then I decided to root it. The very next day after rooting and installing busy box and changing the boot screen/sounds, all hell broke loose. Tried to go back to stock and it still had problems. I kinda get sick of messing with the **** all the time. I just want a phone that works and does everything I need out of the box. The only reason I rooted the gs3, was the stupid boot sound t-mobile uses. UGGGGHHHHh I HATE THAT SOUND!!!

I did an exchange though and as soon as the new one gets here, I'm leaving it stock.

I do understand these guys though. Why have a great phone that you simply ca't mess with? They need to unlock the bootloader and let these guys do as they please..

Good luck guys. If it was me, I'd cancel with verizon and go to a different carrier. But then again, I'd never give them or AT&T my money from the start.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] walcs:
Paid hundreds of dollars for a phone that we can't even tinker with. Considering all the other carriers have their BL unlocked just makes this so much worse
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] evodon84:
Man VZW is weak for this. Guess its about time for the Nexus experience and StraightTalk before ATT gets any ideas.

sent from tapatalk app on GS2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] walkingagh:
Trying not to ream you here. But there are already a couple of issues with the phone I have that can easily be fixed with root. They mostly revolve around user experience.

1) Startup noise can't be silenced

2) Shutdown noise can't be silenced

3) Plug-in noise can't be silenced

You are right that at this instant it's not worth ranting about. But there were some pretty awesome things in Jelly Bean. CM10 will come out in 2-3 months, and every other SGS3 in the world will get it. But it's an unsigned kernel, so we won't.

And 18 months from now, when you are waiting out the last bit of your contract, and your battery life sucks, and we are all still on Jelly Bean. It will be 6 months of pain. That is what the cow is about. Us predicting the future in an android apocalypse.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mustbepbs:
That pretty much sounds like my experiences. I messed with my wife's DX2 and that thing absolutely sucked on custom ROMs. It sucked anyway, but there were always tons of bugs. I found a lot of bugs on various releases on the Gnex, too. Just got sick of it all, like you said.

The source of my curiosity and dissatisfaction comes from these forums. Maybe I should stop frequenting them multiple times per day :P Anyway, I'm done clogging this thread with my opposing opinions :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] droidfta:
This sucks I came from a Droidx with a locked bootloader I upgraded to get a way from this crap and it comes back to bite me in the ass! what the hell verizon. I had no idea this was coming and I upgraded before the june28th deadline to keep my unlimited data now you bend me over and do this! I already wrote samsung, Im hoping they will release an unlock tool? here is my question HTC has unlock tools for some of their devices so whos really in control here about locking down the device? why cant Samsung release an unlock tool? do they have to fear from a lawsuit from verizon??? Granted the phones hardware and stock rom will be more then enough for 95% of the people, but knowing I cannot tinker with a flagship phone is disheartening. I guess the iphone has been doing this for years, but this is an opensource platform, how opensource is it when you have a locked bootloader? I signed a petition, and I also emailed samsung (just googled email samsung) letting them know I'm pissed. lets all get some commotion people. Asus released an unlock tool for the transformer prime tablet. we paid for this hardware we should be able to do with it what we want.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Vertig0:
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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] open1your1eyes0:
Just thought I'd post these here:

It is Illegal for Verizon to Lock Some Bootloaders (Updated)

Letter From Verizon to FCC Details Their Stance on Bootloaders
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] knifedroid:
I don't know much about this stuff, I just follow the directions. From what I gather, if the bl is truly encrypted root will probably still be achieved via a workaround, but custom roms may not be an option.

Question: when my s3 arrives, can I just take it to a verizon store and exchange it for a nexus without losing unlimited data? I started to get one anyway, but figured from the rave reviews the s3 would be more future proof. Also, I know about Apple's bs injunction, but from what I understand stores are allowed to sell what they already had in stock.

Would this be a wise avenue to take if rooting and roms are important to me? I'm spoiled with CM. I already know touchwiz won't do it for me.

I'm mainly worried, however, about being locked into a relatively old phone for 2 years.

Damn you, Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] droidfta:
When I get my S3 I'm gonna try my best to enjoy a stock experience not being able to mess with the kernel I for sure will be buying an extra battery to carry in my pocket. I just need root and I know that will at-least come because it has come with the most locked down of devices. In all honestly though I have never bricked a phone in my life and I don't see too many threads about bricked devices in forums. The small number is minute doesn't Verizon have bigger issues to fry. Please if anyone knows the corporate address of samsung and verizon. Ill be happy to write a letter stamp it and mail it. Everyone that's ranting on these forums should write a letter too and stamp it. Emails easy to ignore, forum rants easy to ignore, open up Microsoft word write a letter and mail it with a million other people hard to ignore. anyone with corporate addresses please post in forums with Samsung and Verizon, Ill complain maybe nothing will happen but if enough people do maybe well get a response, its only 32 cents in postage people!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Metfanant:
I can confirm, via Level 2 Samsung Galaxy S Support that Verizon SPECIFICALLY requested an ENCRYPTED (not simply locked) bootloader, and they are the ONLY carrier to make such a request of Samsung, and as this is part of the OEM/Carrier agreement between Samsung and VZW there is 100% nothing Samsung can do to remedy the situation

Looks like my SGS III pre-order will be canceled tomorrow and ill wait this out...ive dealt with the encrypted bootloader on my DX for 2 years (pre-ordered that as well)...if I wanted another encrypted bootloader I would have bought a RAZR MAXX months ago, or waited on the RAZR HD...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] droidfta:
I know! same thing dude I came from an DX too. What the hell seriously. The only thing that worries me I can enjoy stock but like the DX when ICS came out without being able to modify to a 3.0 kernel ICS was complete bugger! are you on unlimited? if they let you keep your unlimited please let me know and im talking about upgrading since we are after June 28th deadline? please let all of us know
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tylerdurdin:
the truth is Verizon does not care period. They would not care if every Verizon customer on this site left....they get a thousand new customers everyday. They also fully understand that the people requesting the bootloader be unlocked are flashing firmwares, which they believe endangers network security, opens devices for tethering outside of ones data plan, and can potentially destroy the device. None of these things generate any revenue for them so they flat out dont give a $hit....the devs may unlock this thing....but it aint going to be because Verizon sends out the code..lol...Verizon is like Apple now...they supply the masses and dont give a crap about the 10,00 people that dont like their policies.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mav3rick478:
You will probably lose unlimited. Before i pre-ordered i asked about the 14 day return policy and when it began with this phone. They said it started from the day i activated the phone and if i returned it i would be switched to Share Everything because it was after June 28 and the plan was linked to the phone. So returning it meant changing my contract. :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Metfanant:
ill let you know how it goes tomorrow after i leave the local VZW store...I'm SLIGHTLY worried because i placed my pre-order today, and of course had to accept the fact that i would lose my unlimited data on a new contract...

I'm HOPING that with canceling the pre-order tomorrow that I will just revert to my existing contract (with unlimited) since I never received the SGSIII...

i even raised hell on the phone and got the $30 upgrade fee waived and was feeling good about myself all day until i came online and started reading all this nonsense...

The way the Galaxy S tech i spoke with on the phone made it seem we are dealing with a Motorola type encryption here and we all know how that has gone regarding every phone since the release of the Droid X (not good)...I have faith in the developers of the Android community, but im not going to hold onto a phone waiting for it to be unlocked when its likely a new Nexus device will land before then, and the SGSIII (at least the VZW version) will become completely irrelevant and unsupported...

The original Droid X was an anomaly...it was a true flagship device that was above and beyond better than anything else out there so development stayed healthy for a long time in spite of the encrypted bootloader...I don't see this being the case anymore...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] droidfta:
Someone answer my question why can HTC get away with releasing unlock tools for some of their devices without a lawsuit or something like that from verizon this is my only hope that samsung does the same thing?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Metfanant:
from what I was told by Samsung, it is simply part of the agreement between Sammy and Big Red that this puppy is locked down...and that VZW holds the keys to the lock...

they told me it would be theoretically possible for the device to be unlocked, but that Verizon would have to handle that themselves as it is out of Samsung's hands
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] corythug:
Wow I just saw this thread. I'm on attt, before this I had my one x which out of all the carriers it released on, yup it was locked down. Bootloader locked and Cid borked so htcdev wouldn't unlock it, without somevhex editing of course. But we did unlock it, and I sincerely hope the same happens here. Goodluck.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Elite49:
Seriously Verizons ****ty customer service and their ****ty corporate greed is pissing me off. Why oh why are they such douches.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] droidfta:
I have an exchange windows I'll see how things go in the upcoming days. I have wifi at home and I managed to get wifi at work (even though not suppose to) so the places where i am 90 percent of the time I can use wifi, I might give up my unlimited plan to ditch this S3 and see how things go. I had a taste of unlocked freedom on my original droid one. then I went to the droidx, didn't want to go back, but I did.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] I Am Marino:
I'd convince everyone you know to return your SGS3 and get any other non bootloader phone and maybe they'll get the picture.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mike86325:
someone just posted this on AC
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bamaredwingsfan:
Thats just Verizons He said She said run around bull****
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Metfanant:
makes NO sense whatsoever!

1. If it was a "manufacturer request" then why is it ONLY the Verizon version?

2. Why would Samsung support confirm that Yes, all other versions can be unlocked (they do not recommend this as it voids the warranty) but only Verizon has the keys to unlock their version?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bamaredwingsfan:
How insane would verizons social media pages get if in a few days this happens.

"Verizon offers to unlock S3 Bootloaders on a individual basis for $100"?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mike86325:
Definitely 100% BS. Do they really think we are stupid? Like samsung sat back and said, "well every carrier on earth will have an unlocked version except... verizon". I don't have a twitter account otherwise I'd call them out. I have posted on both verizon and samsung's fb pages urging them for an unlock.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Metfanant:
they didn't do this for the DX, DX2, D2, D2G, D3, D4, Bionic, RAZR, RAZR MAXX, or whatever else Moto has released since July of 2010...why would they start now?..

its no coincidence that Motorola and Verizon have been in bed together really promoting the Droid Brand since the beginning (and Kudos to both of them for that, because without them Android may have never gotten off the ground)...and it was Moto/VZW that started this encrypted crap...and now VZW is slowly leaking this practice into their other devices...

i responded to the post on twitter telling VZW to check with Samsung, because Samsung is telling customers that VZW requested it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] pj1980:
i can deal with a locked bootloader however i need my root, i trust the very smart devs here will help us poor verizon souls soon :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mike86325:
It's never going to happen.. they either unlock it for everyone or do nothing at all

btw, are there any devs working on this yet? Anyone have any follow up with the guy who had the custom boot display?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Metfanant:
surely people are working on it...and surely many more will fight the good fight as their phones start to arrive over the next week or so...but just take a look at the list of Moto devices released in the past two years...all with encrypted bootloaders...some of them EXTREMELY popular devices with A LOT of dev support...

NONE of them cracked...

1. VZW isn't going to release the keys

2. VZW isn't going to allow individual unlocks for a fee

3. Nobody is going to crack this unless Samsung made it easy for us

i hope im DEAD WRONG on at least one of those above points...but i don't see it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] j0hnZ:
You guys should leave bad reviews on their website...cause other people not to get the phone. Money talks and we are a small segment of the market, so if we can convince others not to get the phone based on reviews...we change the market.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mike86325:
We have root!! Really really really want an unlocked bl though

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1756885
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] smw420:
Not only is posting nasties to their Facebook page on my to-do list for a few weeks, but I plan on making a couple of tweaks to my Google AdWords account and blowing a few bucks on some nice anti-verizon-don't-get-your-s3-here ads with some cheap keywords, just to calm down. I'm pissed.

There are a few things that I think might get their attention.

>Their Facebook page is trashed with dozens of S3 BL complaints - keep up the good work. That's a very "public place" to let them have it. Not so effective bashing them in here, doesn't look to good when 1 out of 50 posts are positive on your own Facebook page. And you know they see those.

>Phone calls. They do have to pay people to hear us *****.

>I hope every Android/Tech site slams Verizon on Monday with the question.. When will the unlock be available? They locked it, its too late to beat that dead horse, we just want to know when they plan to unlock it before the onslaught of returns, but more importantly, bad press. (if they even care anymore)

We don't have the numbers to walk away and make a difference, we are a drop in the bucket to them. But we are pissed and loud. Besides blasting Sammy and waiting for crackage..... :crying:

Well, just saw the post above, I feel a little better now. I need to stop drinking and hit the sack! lol

-M
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Metfanant:
root is great, and its exciting...but for those of us that had the DX from day 1 can tell you...try to temper your enthusiasm...root is a great first step, and opens the doors to a lot of things...but the encrypted bootloader is where the focus needs to be...root will come no matter what...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mike86325:
I know the pain, trust me.. DX from day 1 until the S3 comes in this week. I'm still very on the fence with this, but I don't think I can deal with another 2 years of being locked down by an encrypted BL
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HolyGrail:
Well...... what about not activating the phone?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Metfanant:
bingo!..that is why im canceling my pre-order tomorrow and im gonna sit it out for a little bit...if some real progress is made ill order the phone again without hesitation as its a great device...i can live with my trusty DX on Liberty v3 for a few weeks more at least..

if i wanted to be locked down for another two years i would have bought a MAXX months ago and been done with it...if it turns out the SGSIII can't be cracked by the time the RAZR HD is released, ill end up picking that up
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] c4v3man:
1: You can't have unlimited Data with the RAZR HD, unless you pay full retail.

2: Motorola has been the worst offender when it comes to locked bootloaders. If you don't like the GS3, the RHD is going to be worse, as it'll have an even smaller developer community.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] aimfire72:
Man, this sucks! Funny thing is, I was about to cancel my AT&T pre-order when I heard the S3 was coming out on Verizon next week, but was too late, already shipped out. Kinda glad now that it worked out that way, don't regret having the AT&T version.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Docavelli:
It looks like root is here for you Verizon folks.

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/29256-root-recovery-sch-i535-verizon-galaxy-s-iii/

At least it's a start.

XDA Mobile
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ErylFlynn:
Facebook newb here, but where do I see the graffiti on VZW's wall and how then do I add to it?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] satadru:
Ok somebody needs to verify that this works. :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Jubakuba:
I feel so bad for my mom right now...

I was toting Jelly Bean in her face like "LULZ, LOOK. Oh, your phone is going to have ICS when it ships? [A phone I practically forced her into buying] I have Jelly-Goddamn-Bean! LUL, loser."

She says:

"Did I get the wrong phone? Was this a bad decision :crying:"

I literally saw her face drop...she was pretty sad.

I immediately realized that I hurt her feelings and jumped:

"No no no! The SIII has an unlockable bootloader. That means I can put you on Jelly Bean pretty much immediately after the source drops. Even the version I'm running is a bit buggy...it's not like...the full version [explaining it in non-tech-savvy-lingo]. I'm just messing with you, you made a great decision. You're going to absolutely love it!"

Ugh...

:(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] chill145:
from the facebook app on my phone you need to go to wall and click the all bottom to the left
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] skennelly:
Thanks for putting it this way. I have been nervous about getting this phone because of the locked bootloader. Although I'd love to see it unlocked, I felt the same way about the DX. All of the "custom roms" were buggy and always had something that didn't work. I have been back to stock for over 6 months on that phone. Stock, although sucks aesthetically, just worked. Your post eases my nerves because you are right, the SGS3 is a great piece of hardware.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tylerdurdin:
Why don't you try it?.....and you can verify that it works.

Sent from........Somewhere In Time
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ddggttff3:
that, and I can verify it does. Got root and CWM
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Gamer113:
link us to the tweet please i want to get in on it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Metfanant:
https://twitter.com/VZWSupport/status/221438243428765698
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] droidstyle:
can we please quit making comparisons between samsung and moto devices...the difference here is the gs3 has odin and recovery can be accessed without some hack pseudo-recovery method. This here alone will make things alot easier!! invisiblek has already flashed a kernel in recovery, but it would not boot due to a system check that flagged unsupported software. Still thats quite a advancement in 12hrs time. Relax folks this cookie will be cracked soon enough.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] skennelly:
No offense, but does anyone really think some moron from samsung that you spoke with at 2 am has any flipping clue as to the agreement that VZW and Samsung have, or the status of the bootloader?