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[Nexus 7 General] flathead031:
There's nothing to kill because Nexus 7 isn't even on the consumers hands nor can you forecast how successful the Nexus 7 will be.

I bought a Nexus 7 to finally tinker around with an Android device that isn't laggy :laugh:
[Nexus 7 General] Kennnny1:
"Android device that isn't laggy"...

What have you been using? Even my droid incredible is still flawless, I can't say I ever have that issue. The exception being flash content, and I'm perfectly happy to have it lag one time in a hundred than to not have it at all.
[Nexus 7 General] Ravynmagi:
He's referring to Project Butter in Android 4.1 that will make Android more smooth and fluid. Android works great, but anyone that spends time with both iOS and Android, usually feels quite a difference between the fluidity of both OSes. Hopefully Android 4.1 closes that gap.
[Nexus 7 General] clintonroche:
Maybe Google should file litigation over patent infringement.... LOLOL
[Nexus 7 General] flathead031:
You're correct and I'm actually excited to try my first android device especially judging from the video reviews, 4.1 looks just as smooth as iOS.
[Nexus 7 General] :
Well, I seriously doubt it will compete with the Nexus 7 on a specification/price field. But, to be honest, I think Apple can release anything and people will happily buy it.
[Nexus 7 General] rushless:
You are wrong: Two words, Telly Tubbys
[Nexus 7 General] hashibahoohaa:
I think this view is rapidly changing with the usability and end user experience gains made by Android - I still am not sure about the Android Application space.
[Nexus 7 General] s73v3r:
You know, everyone also expected their tablet to cost $1000, too. Including Motorola, which is why the original Xoom was so expensive.

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And I'm sure that has absolutely nothing to do with their reputation of releasing excellent products and having great support for them. Nope, everyone who buys Apple is just a lemming, right?

The anti-Apple people are usually even worse than the fanboys.
[Nexus 7 General] jptech:
Steve Jobs is dead! Never underestimate the design power of the almighty dollar.
[Nexus 7 General] Cel1084:
It was about sales yes, Jobs have a history of putting down other product in order to market Apples as superior. I believe his description of anything smaller the a 10 inch tablet buy Apple was that they would have to pack sand paper with the product for people to file down there finger to use it. No doubt if he was alive when a 7 inch iPod came out he would brag about how its the prefect from factor for people on the go with a screen that big enough to easily read text and watch movies without the eye strain.
[Nexus 7 General] devwithzachary:
A iPad mini has been 'rumoured' since the second iPad, and I highly doubt it will happen, apple have never been one to follow the 'trend', even if they did bring out a small iPad it would still cost more than the nexus 7, unless its spec is far less (and the ipod touch gets a huge price reduction).

Google are selling there tablet at cost and yet apple make at least $200 in profit on each iPad so unless they can produce the new ipad with 0 cost its never going to compete with the nexus 7.

And IF they did then it would just prove that they are **** scared by the nexus 7 and there for its a device we should all have :P
[Nexus 7 General] :
iPad mini, only 399.99 wifi 499.99 3G. Yeah, that would be about right...

MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz
[Nexus 7 General] robertm2011:
Really? REALLY??

What you're going to end up with is half the power at twice the price.
[Nexus 7 General] drpfenderson:
Yep. And your point about the $200 is especially important. They're not going to do it at cost unless they're frightened. And I don't think they are. They've already locked people into their ecosystem. Now they just have to keep them there, which they're doing a great job at.
[Nexus 7 General] fenturi:
The whole point of this hitting the press is to keep people from buying it, and waiting to see if someday there will be an apple version. Notice nothing from apple, just press doing there bidding.
[Nexus 7 General] dennishhh:
I hope apple comes out with a 7" then they can sue themselves.
[Nexus 7 General] Logan_M:
No.
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
Careful - Apple has a Patent on CrabApple.
[Nexus 7 General] e.mote:
YES​
[Nexus 7 General] lhayati:
Wow that actually cracked me up :P
[Nexus 7 General] lhayati:
What people have to realise is that Google are making 0% profit from the Nexus 7. Their money is going to be made from the play store.

Because of this it means no one else is going to get close to the Nexus 7's price point.
[Nexus 7 General] e.mote:
Yay! More n7 killas! Four kindle fire 2 tabs a go! 4g on tap!

. 7-inch Kindle Fire 2:1,024x600 display, no camera; August production.

. 7-inch Kindle Fire 2: 1,280x800 display with camera; August production.

. 7-inch Kindle Fire 2: 1,280x800 display with camera and 4G; September production.

. 8.9-inch Kindle Fire 2: With 1,920x1,200 display; Q4 production.

8.9 has SD slot!

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...kindle-fire-2-tablets-one-with-4g-on-the-way/

You guys are such easy troll food... :)
[Nexus 7 General] NeoteriX:
Fixed it for you.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] TheQuicksilver:
Those of you rooting your TF101, why are you doing it these days? When I had my old GTablet, rooting was a necessity because the stock configuration was just so awful. Plus, the geek in me just loves having control of things. But, to date, I've never felt a need to root my Transformer or flash a custom ROM onto it, as it's always been "good enough," and I didn't feel like breaking OTA was worth it. The only exception might be my desire to change the hardware keyboard layout to Dvorak so I can touch type on it.

But, now that apparently you can root without breaking OTA, and the potential of getting JB a bit early via CM later this summer, I'm thinking about it again. What other advantages are some of you reaping from being rooted these days?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] cllgnc89:
I would say that rooting a stock rom is minimally useful (unless you have the knowledge to do modifications like many on XDA). I would suggest a custom rom like AOKP because:

1.The speed and stability is amazing.

2.You tend to get updates more frequently.

3. Overclocking

4. Titanium Backup
[Eee Pad Transformer General] s1l3nt:
1. Debloat- dont want to have apps that i dont need or can't uninstall on my device.

2. Titanium backup- being able to back up all of my apps in case something happens or when i flash different roms

3. Adblock

4. Being able to flash AOSP roms if i want a cleaner experience of android with tweaks created from source and being on the latest android version.

5 Overclocking
[Eee Pad Transformer General] farsight73:
Updates still available after rooting if you read lizard's thread. It the same as OTA but this update is flashed via CWM. Beside this..

1) Overclocking

2) Titanium Backup

3) Droidwall = firewall

4) RootExplore = freeze unwanted apps

5) CWM = fun and life saver

6) Run Apps that need lucky patcher which required root
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ubl:
I rooted so I could install Debian in a chroot environment. Connect a keyboard and mouse and It's even better.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] deerhurst:
1) because i can, ive always hacked, root or jailbroken my mobile devices all the way back to rockbox and the old toshiba gigabeat and creative zen vision m.

2) custom firmwares are much better then stock

3) titanium backup
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sbiriguda:
Since I'm running a (mostly) stock firmware, everything boils down to:

Titanium Backup (both to freeze Asus bloatware and to backup apps that disable the built-in ICS backup system - ie. adb backup - in their manifest)

ClockSync

OpenVPN

NFS (to a lesser extent, I still have to rebuild the kernel and a modified busybox binary with XDR/RPC support)

adblock

freeze CMClient and DMClient

access the crash dropbox in /data to retrieve logs related to ANRs and the like

(yes, I do have CWM as well, but I pushed it via nvflash and then used it to root my device and flash guevor's kernel and the updated nvidia codecs, not the other way around :p)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kiz:
So I could change the physical kb layout to Colemak

So I could remove all those awful Asus apps

If I could do both of these things without root, I'd happily stay unrooted.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sai5o4:
Cause all the cool kids are doing it.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] NShaitan:
completely control it
[Eee Pad Transformer General] TheQuicksilver:
How did you go about changing the physical keyboard? Did you manually alter the mapping file, or is there a good tool for it?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] evertroy:
Fix Asus problem

I had that bug where my tablet would randomly go into a boot-loop and drain the battery. I would go to use it and the damn thing would be dead... and it happened quite a few times before I broke down and rooted/flashed a new rom. Problem solved.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] brando56894:
Overclocking and added features were my main reasons.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kiz:
There are some layout files specifically for the TF dock in /system/usr/xt9/keylayout/ specifically qwerty-en_GB.kl (for UK) or qwerty-en_US.kl (for US) (..etc) that are thankfully plain text files. Just edit them, reboot and enjoy your new layout!

Took a while to work out because I had been editing the layouts in /system/usr/keylayout to no avail.

I'm typing in colemak with it right now, well worth rooting for :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] regP:
titanium backup alone is enough reason to root for me.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sksbir:
Out of reasons already exposed here, I rooted my devices because I can install a firewall which disable on demand wifi/3G/phone access to application. Very useful for applications which have too many ads or too aggressive ads
[Eee Pad Transformer General] zephiK:
Titanium Backup... Plus it's fun to tinker with your device.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] gruntparty:
The reason why i rooted my tf101 was because i wanted to try some custom roms and kernels. I usually hate it when i get a new device and its bloated up junk apps and settings. I also like that i can tinker with it and try to get maximum performance without sacrificing battery power.

Also i hope a nice Jelly Bean rom comes out for the tf101 so that it can finally have smooth animations and look plain beautiful.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Tibbz96:
Titanium backup, custom boot animations and PS3 controller pairing without the dock.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] just lou:
Strictly to overclock. Now Tegra 2 doesn't seem too obsolete, and runs everything I throw at it very well.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] enterflux:
Why have I rooted? Well... I only just began my rooting in the past couple weeks. I was sick of all the AT&T bloatware that was shoved on my Skyrocket, so I rooted in order to uninstall all the bloatware. Only then did I find that that's a major pain in the butt, so I looked into flashing and ended up flashing with SKY-ICS Dragon which made my phone LIGHTNING fast. And now I just rooted and flashed my TF101 to attempt to get some better speed on it (it's been feeling pretty laggy...)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jesuita:
Why root?

Titanium backup, new rom and ad's block application..
[Eee Pad Transformer General] egaston:
Several weeks ago, my Transformer started acting up out of the blue. Gmail would crash 5 or 6 times in a row before I could read my email. Games would crash. Factory reset didn't help. It was about the time that CM9 RC came out so I took the plunge and rooted. It fixed pretty much everything, but there was still some wi-fi issues. I flashed the newest Megatron rom and everything works perfectly.

So my first reason to root was to get things working right. Getting rid of bloatware and adding more customization is just a bonus.
[General Questions and Answers] digitalghostt:
Hello.

My question is: does downloading torrents directly to my SD card shortens her life?
[General Questions and Answers] angramenyu:
I have been using torrents for a while, and I haven't got any trouble until last week when my card got corrupted. But it got corrupted after flashing a radio. I don't think torrents have nothing to do with it
[General Questions and Answers] AlexProfesor:
racioneros eadropm

The corruption probably had nothing to do with the use.

And yes, downloading directly to SD will of course shorten it's life, since the cells on a flash drive can only be written a number of times. Anyway, I wouldn't worry too much. They can withstand a nice amount of use.
[HTC Sensation] Mesaman2012:
I'm a noobey and I really don't understand how to undervolt my phone could some explain how to undervolt a sensation for better battery,etc.I would greatly appreciate it.

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] smithr179:
Under voting works by reducing the amount of power drawn to the phone at a selected frequency. You can do this with an app like system tuner or setcpu. However I can't give you a set of voltages for it, because usually there's minor differences in the hardware of people's phones, which means some values may work for some and not others. I would advise to try reducing the values slowly, and do some research on other people's values to see what they have been able to reduce to.
[HTC Sensation] Mesaman2012:
Is this undervolting I use CPU set and I keep it at min 192mhz to 918 MHz.I thought this was called underclocking.Am I wring or correct.How do you actually set stuff to mv?I don't see and settings on there for mv.and what are all the different things that I can actually down set the mv on.could someone please explain alittle more.

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] ridder215215:
What you did is underclocking, which saves battery but also reduces performance. Undervolting needs a kernel that supports it. You can set the mV for every mHz. I usually put it 50-62,5 mV lower than the standard voltage.
[HTC Sensation] sssurfer:
@ mesaman2012

Download System tuner (or Buy its Pro Version)

Start System Tuner.

Tap on "Voltage" button (in 2nd last row)

there u can increase or decrease the voltage (by -12.5mv to +12.5mv)

after u got ur desired voltage Tap on save to save it.

Simple....isnt it ?
[HTC Sensation] Mesaman2012:
I set all the setting to the lowest +12.5 volts.I hope that's alright.any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] sssurfer:
I don't know what exact voltage u have set....but whatever u have set, give it a little time to see whether it is stable or not....good luck.

- sent from my Venomous Viper..
[HTC Sensation] VekiCRO:
Now download stability test from Market and run Scalling test,leave it for 15-20min,if its stable undervolt one more step the again stabity test for 15-20min.When test crashes rise voltage for one step and thats it :)
[HTC Sensation] shahkam:
I dont rely much on undervolting for saving battery i mean it just depends on your usage mate :) or either way get an anker battery :D

Sent From My Sexy Sensation Running Aokp.
[HTC Sensation] Mesaman2012:
Does the way I have my phone underclocked matter with undervolting at all?I keep my phone at 192mhz to 918 MHz for just normal use.I undervolted everything down as far as it would go then I +12.5 and when I was using it right away my phone shut off.so I then did another +12.5 and now so far its running alright.I'm going to do a scalling stability test next.If I'm doing anything incorrect let me know please I'm just a noobey. Thanks!!!

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] ridder215215:
The only way the underclocking influences the undervolting is that you have less mHz values to set the mV for, so for example if you underclocked to +/- 1200 you can't set the voltage for 1500.
[HTC Sensation] Mesaman2012:
Who has undervolted there sensation and seen a noticeable gain in battery?would you say you got and extra he or 2 on a full charge?

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] ziddey:
I'll try to report back in a week or so. I went from running the standard 384-1.51 to 384-1.72, to now running 192-810, testing undervolting as well. Will have to play more for sure.

Previously, I had the screen off, not in call max frequency set to 810, while screen on was stock xe. I noticed quite a bit of time at 810, so something is consuming excessive cpu clocks when the screen is off.

The major bummer I'm coming across is that system tuner cannot undervolt below 800mv. Since the phone is ideally spending most of its time at the lowest fid/vid state (192 or 384 for example), there's a good chance of stability below 800mv. I haven't done too much research yet to see if this is possible with some other means, but this may help a bit in standby. Of course, if I could just keep the damn screen off, I'd probably be in better shape.

How much less battery do AMOLED screens consume? Saw a One S today, and it does look pretty damn sleek.
[HTC Sensation] VekiCRO:
Its kernel limit,with Bricked you can undervolt under 800mV :)
[HTC Sensation] ziddey:
Thanks. I've been running Faux's kernels ever since I got my Sensation. I wonder if he'd consider adding the feature. How low are you able to go stably below 800mv and at what frequencies? Figure if I'm going to be idling at 192 or 384mhz, I'd like to get that voltage as low as possible.
[HTC Sensation] Mesaman2012:
Thanks for all the great input.should I change to a bricked kernel?If so what version.I'm running v008b4 faux kernel right now should I use a lower version like a v005?

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] sssurfer:
Very true ..

I'm running bricked n under volt mine upto 700mV....but it wasn't stable..

Currently running at 725mv n every thing running smooth. :)

- sent from my Venomous Viper..
[HTC Sensation] sssurfer:
Go to this thread :

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=17430290

If u don't want to try betas...then v1.31 is the stable version. :)

- sent from my Venomous Viper..
[HTC Sensation] Mesaman2012:
What's a good sense bricked kernel to use?as far as version.

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] sssurfer:
As I said, v1.31 is the stable version, but if u want to try beta, v1.36 is also there..

I'm running v1.35, came with the ViperS ROM.

- sent from my Venomous Viper..
[HTC Sensation] VekiCRO:
This is my settings, -75mV undervolt,min 192,max 1.18
[Nexus 7 General] doctahjeph:
So what are everyones plans for the $25 credit? This might be a good thread to give others ideas of apps or games they can purchase with the credit.

For me, i am thinking about getting final fantady 3. I already own itbfor the ipad, but hate the ipad so much (work issued) i may just buy it forbthe N7. May also pick up the plex app.
[Nexus 7 General] hashibahoohaa:
Similar thread on this topic in the QA section:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1745811
[Nexus 7 General] haloimplant:
I'll tell you what I won't spend it on: a single dime of in-app purchases in money-sucking freemium games.

I was so excited about gaming on Android when I first got my Galaxy S in 2010. I bought several games for $5-7 and played them for hours and hours. Then it seems like overnight every single game with decent production value doesn't want to sell you a full version for $10 or less, they want to milk you for dollar after dollar of credits, characters, play time and other BS. I see options to buy $50 or $100 worth of in-game credits! Are these people insane?

It makes me weep. Who are the idiots feeding these monstrosities anyways? They are just as much to blame as the developers.

So back on topic I will find the best one-time purchase games that I can find and spend the $25 on them.
[Nexus 7 General] Step666:
Please continue the discussion in the other thread.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TheAtheistOtaku:
Along with the bogo sale on our phones that should also release ics for our phones? They would probably sell allot more, and we finally get source so we can fix the emmc bug. Win win for everyone
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dw3bb10:
NO! They shouldn't release source nor give us ICS! We dont want that!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tigermoto:
Hahahaha, sorry, but that's a skilled response.

Sent from my HTC Sensation XE. Come and see us at www.coredroidroms.com.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cp320703:
+1 for this, sprint understands its consumers and knows updates just scare and confuse us... its like unlimited data with them, they call it unlimited because if you,like me, live in a market without 4g it would take several months if not years to use 5gigs of data with their current 3g "speeds"... sprint is the best!

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it seems some people may have taken my my remarks seriously? I was continuing in the satire (or what I assumed to be satire) of the post i was referencing.... of course i want ICS released, it could be so buggy it catches fire and abuses your pets for all i care, as long as the devs have access to the source in order to make the roms we actually use (you know, not stock...) better!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nthornton1990:
I'm sorry OP but I'm gonna have to agree with this fellow. The bugs aren't gone yet and as it has been said numerous times it doesn't make sense.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
If you're waiting for a total bug-free release then you'll be waiting until the end of time. They will release it when they are ready and, steady yourselves, it will probably have a few remaining, minor issues which they will attempt to fix with a patch.

Seriously it makes me chuckle to see people rubbing their palms together waiting for the perfect, bug-free release of any software.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Here's hoping it comes out soon - but based on the release date and usual one month delay we're still about 1-2 weeks away if they use FF18 as the OTA.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nthornton1990:
Oh I'm not expecting perfection. Although I would like to see equivalent battery life and equal if not better speed. I'm totally content with the way things are now with ics except for the battery life. That's it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
You need a better ROM :) I get incredible battery life, as good as if not better than I ever got on GB.

But here's hoping the release is as bug free as possible!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gatesmarch123:
Screw ics I want jelly bean!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Once ICS source is released JB will be pretty easy to port to the et4g especially once JB source is out, they run pretty much the same kernel only major changes were to framework and resources and some lib and bin files, nothing to the extreme like going from GB to ICS

Edit: by JB source I mean rom source from Google not kernel source, just thought I should clarify that after re-reading what I said :D

We are legion, for we are many.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tubasteve:
I see what you did there.:D

It's my phone...any mis takes...sry
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hurleyzero1:
I rooted my sprint nexus s lastnight and installed cm9 nightly build rom. i realized that i had no signal at all. i went into networks and get an error trying to scan for networks and tried to flash another cm9 rom and still have no signal. i dont know what else to do i guess i really messed up not making a backup of my stock rom. any help would be really awesome.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Billchen0014:
okay, you maybe flashed a rom NOT for your Nexus S model, you flashed one for the 3g version (i presume you have the 4G version, Sprint version), so you should flash a rom that is for the NS 4G.

so try wipe data, and flash a rom from here: http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=crespo4g&type=stable, just to be sure, can you check your model by checking a sticker under the battery, and tell me what it is.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
You probably flashed a GSM Nexus s Rom. Stick to the Nexus S 4G forum and it shouldn't happen again.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Billchen0014:
i just said that 3 min ago