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[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andrewtst:
Siyah make it happen when click 5 times home button.

This feature default can be turn on using Samsung stock widget call inverse color.

It is said for saving power.

This is a feature, not a bugs.
[General Topics] awaisuk:
Hey,

I am looking for best android table with wifi and 3g with a screen size of around 7".

I have found one, Galaxy tab 2 7.0 with wifi and 3g.....its called:

SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB 2 7.0 P3100 8GB 3G & WI-FI

It seems to be a bit expensive, someone know of any alternatives?

And when it says 3g, that means I can put my sim card in the tablet and use my network data on the tablet?

Thanks.
[Desire General] zakka1da:
Hey, since official thread was closed based on Shaky's request, I have opened new, unofficial one, so that there is no need to spam development threads where it does not belong to. There was starting some talk about Kernel 3.0, maybe some experienced ones can enlight this topic.

No offensive or dirty words, please.
[Desire General] nlooooo:
To much smoke with no fire...

Not really sure that there will be something from it.

But let's wait and see.
[Desire General] erklat:
Dafuq? Two threads plus development not enough?
[Desire General] zakka1da:
all Shaky's threads are locked so not enough...
[Desire General] jmcclue:
personaly i would say get the message... 3 threads locked. message recieved

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] zakka1da:
come on, it was locked because of shaky was annoyed, but it does not mean community cannot talk about it...
[Desire General] jmcclue:
now the community will talk about the same thing here, so now ur just continuing on the reason why they were locked.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] sroy001:
LOL:p I clearly remember when Shaky appeared on the Desire forums before the device was bought, there was this guy from DHD forum who commented " Oh shaky you're now here! After shaking a lot and not baking anything in the DHD" .. hahaha.. I feel really sorry for all of you who kept saying"oh shaky plz do sense 4 for us and you're god and what not!" All rubbish..

What I find hard to understand that why would a dev never talk about what's working and what's not behind the scenes ??? Not even in dev forum? People stopped writing in dev as per his request.. what happened at the end ???

All bull****! I'm not saying that he can't do something, only he knows better, but the way people have been treated in his forums are disgusting.. it never happened in threads in the likes of leedroid or coolexe etc.. everyone was given a chance to express and be heard..

I feel these new so called dev are "noobs" than normal users the people are maintaining their threds
[Desire General] zakka1da:
yes, I want them to talk about it, and omg, they were locked because Shaky wanted it, not moderators (except of some warnings in development thread). If it was because he did not want to read about it or any other reason, it does not matter, I just don't want this topic to die (when still some hope is alive, maybe).

Back to topic, in Droid Incredible forum I have read that PureMotive had some talk with Shaky and sbryan like 4 days ago and that guy sbryan is most probably looking into that audio issue... we will see
[Desire General] Aralas:
Conclusion : leave shaky alone, he's working hard for us and there is no need to make him under pression.

About this topic, mmmh ... too words, not enough acts ?
[Desire General] gie62001:
To me this thread looks like disrespect to shaky coz he closed two of them already clearly for a reason.

And now again will be the same everybody taking and nobody can actually provide even a simple logcat, you know how many tutorials with step by step explanations have been posted on xda lately for everything: porting ics, compiling kernel, compiling roms from source, kernel optimizations, modding,etc do why non of the talkatives take some time off their life and start working on porting sense 4 and/or kernel 3.0? Seriously this thread would be so much productive rather than waiting and pushing one person to the edge?m?

Does it make sense?

If I had time to waste for ungrateful users I'd work on this myself- however real life and work for now are more important to me.but I bet if any of you read the tutorials and got to know insides of android you could port it yourself. Even DK and Sandvold and Sebastian started like this by experimenting.
[Desire General] panpjp:
You guys want the perfect and official answer? PM to him

And my estimation of your next answer is

"How did I forget that!!! :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: "
[Desire General] MrUrgit:
Good to see other people working on Sense 4.0 ....

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28222255&postcount=1447
[Desire General] rete:
When shaky was soliciting donations to buy his Desire you just had to check his history here at XDA to realize he is a prima donna that will probably let you down (if you chipped in for his phone). As the saying goes...he's all hat but no cattle. So I stayed well away.

Now, when laidbacknikez was doing the same (getting donations to buy a new Desire for developing) I did donate to him. He not only sent out a personal thank you note, he has delivered a fantastic ROM in spades...and I would bet he will give us Jellybean a well.
[Desire General] zakka1da:
thanks for finding it, another slice of hope :) (and one of the reasons why I opened this thread, hope people won't now spam Aurora thread with silly questions for ETA [like one already did :eek: ])
[Desire General] Lothaen:
everyone should just LEAVE IT unless they are going to help out with something productive.

if you compared the Nexus One thread and the Desire thread for the same shaky dev thread and the nexus one had like 3 pages, while the desire had about 100 in a short space of time.

I know people are excited and stuff but try and keep it to yourselves unless you have a bugreport or something useful to contribute.

in the meantime enjoy Gingerbread or ICS AOSP on your desire.
[Desire General] jmcclue:
i agree, i onced used aurora rom but never really checked the thread after that. so yeah it was a good find and im glad that sense 4 is being worked on BUT now there is gona be 200+ atleast more people who are gona read this thread and click the link and its gona eventually lead to useless posts and comments just like shakys threads. i could be and hope im wrong but thats what i think.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] nlooooo:
One more thing I don't understand, if this is called 'FORUM' it's made to be written in it, so why some of us think that it shouldn't?

Sent from my HTC Desire via flashes and thunders
[Desire General] jmcclue:
i know what ur saying but my point was really why continue on from 3 threads that have already been locked? i just think its pointless. but if ye wana talk about it then go ahead

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] stankyou:
Let it go man. If we can't make people stop creating threads to discuss what is the best rom of them all, we can't stop this thread too. :silly:
[Desire General] erklat:
^

You can eventually stop posting before you move on. There is nothing to be found on this specific board to expand your knowledge base anymoar.
[Desire General] Co.Tibi:
Is shaky actually still working on Sense 4? Does anybody know for sure?
[Desire General] Lothaen:
nope - cause people annoyed him with stupid questions
[Desire General] erklat:
LOL, you're right.

The gift just keeps giving.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1268279&page=147
[Desire General] Hellraiser76:
Shaky is still working on sense 4...maybe if some noobs stop breaking his balls he will finish what he started.
[Desire General] Emma22288:
shaky ‏@shaky153

"Next release, sense 4 & (something) = 600mb + kernel 3.0, next level s***"

I guess we all should be very grateful to him and his work.
[Desire General] neXus PRIME:
Did he mention about posting release on xda or on twitter ?.....

Chaqmol also working on sense 4, i think if they distribute the work, it will be faster then current pace......

Regards
[Desire General] Emma22288:
He posted it on his twitter.

Sent from my HTC Desire using the keyboard..
[Desire General] Lothaen:
Hope shaky continues but also people give him a break! And same to anyone else working on semse 4 :-)
[Desire General] :
Definitely not releasing here, not until xda actually sorts out its rules and makes it more strict, I saw the newer article on "strict rules" but I don't believe it, its the same BS, its not just desire users I get hassle from, its members, rc's, rd's, xda is full of noobs, noobs at rc level and rd level, I know someone that's kanged everything they've done yet they have rd?! :s, senior mods should be more strict, they need to go through their rd/rc list

I offered wfs to port sense 4, asked the community, I didn't even start m I got rc hater trolling n the "xda right way is to report" I did that and nothing, really liking how "strict xda rules are".

And most of you are like insecure, ETA means estimated time of arrival not definitely release time. Most of you need some sort of confirmation on what I'm doing on development, you guys aren't capable of surviving if I dev quietly, I've deved in things that I haven't even mentioned or released, clearly won't be sharing that, if I don't post on what I'm doing you troll etc, if I post what I'm doing you guys still troll n spam, lose lose situation. I haven't promised anyone anything, If you were here from beginning I only offered to bring a booting sense 4 then dropping it to sandvold, but sandvolds busy with aosp so I choose to support it in my free time, you guys act like I've promised you a alien spaceship, a lot of liars here, people incapable of reading/selective hearing, strollers, spammers etc I don't see it changing anytime soon.

Closing a thread does not mean development has stopped, it means a threads closed, you jump to conclusions, stopping development, releasing, and shutting down a thread are different things, n I understand there are people around the world that may not understand English very well, you can use translate n compromise.

Of course not everyone's like that, there are quiet and respectful people

I won't be posting anything on xda, it'll be posted somewhere else.

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire General] stankyou:
There you have it folks. :D

via xda app
[Desire General] :
For the people that are incapable of reading a thread, quoted for new page

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire General] jmcclue:
well said

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] stankyou:
This kinda reminds me of why AdamG left XDA. And if you don't know who AdamG is then you are prolly a noob.

via xda app
[Desire General] zakka1da:
rules, rules, rules, for sure there has to be rules and kang/steal someone's work is horrible. That there are people asking if development is going when there is no update for 6 weeks, looks normal to me and that there are stupid people asking for etas, changelogs, when will work camera etc. it is probably because amount of people visiting xda is still increasing, many noobs got here but don't know why not to ignore them, reacting on their stupid posts is silly.

People here are asking because most of other devs here are communicating with people and posting what they are working on it (when they have time to dev) but you are working other way, but people here can't know that since you did not do anything remarkable for desire comminuty, I mean this is your first project for Desire so people here did not know you are not communicating with them. Post it wherever you want to and good luck making it work. Someone else will hopefully share it with us, or some other dev will make it work here.
[Desire General] neXus PRIME:
You're partly right and partly wrong.....

But yeah, stupid people are unavoidable so we should just try to ignore those stupid comments rather then completely shutting off communication....
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I've said before, the way I saw it was this:

desire thread = mucho spam

nexus one thread = much less

you can see a clear difference between a 'popular' device and a less popular / more dev device imo

I imagine the One X forum will go that way too eventually
[Desire General] nlooooo:
Anyway, dush got his Desire and that's it...

Try to donate again next time, maybe a few more will come and ask you to 'help' them developing... :banghead:

Sent from my HTC Desire via flashes and thunders
[Desire General] Co.Tibi:
Shaky has a bad case of ''can't ignore stupid people'' imo... He should, however, do whatever seems to work best for him because obviously XDA is starting to suck *ss. I think I know where he might post future releases though...
[Desire General] sroy001:
Dear Shaky.. I just wanted to refresh your memory that it was XDA members who wholeheartedly contributed towards you getting a phone for deving.. it was the XDA members whom you and few other so called dev call NOOB in a bit derog way.. By reminding this, I certainly don't mean that you're obligated to publish your work here.. Just so that you remember that people didn't think twice when poring in money because we believed in you.. Just the way you feel xda is "full of noobs", a lot of us feel XDA is full of aspiring devs like you who ask for public support to dev.. you didn't come here because WE called you.. YOU came because YOU wanted to.. Unfortunately, WE "desire community" is accustomed to some real cool devs like Coolexe, Lee and InsertCoin etc who made us feel a part of their work.. Not sure you would know them, but trust me they didn't have such issue which you kept mentioning.. Nonetheless, I wish you all the best for your other projects" X,Y,Z and whatnot" ... I'm sure you'll complete them :thumbup:

EDIT: personally I don't care whether you publish your work or not
[Desire General] nightmare911:
For those NOOBS AdamG was the dev who made oxygen,DevNull,open desire, sense rom and a couple others. :angel:
[Desire General] Aixya:
I for one agree with the above post, for a dev who wishes to support a certain development peice of work for a certain device.. the community, the people managing the community or certain individuals should not damper his or her support for their work or device.

I remember when i bought my desire back in 2010, this community was the best place to be with some really cool developers like Lee, Coolexe, Adam and many more were atleast open and responsive about their developments, they would openly share about problems they faced with certain developments in the forums and also took note of solutions and workarounds provided by individuals in a development forum (Due to also which spamming was considerably less as people had more of an idea to where the development was stuck and also allowed more people to find solutions and rack their own heads on the problem). These developers also did not owe the people in the community anything, people who donated to them did it in appreciation of their valuable time and work.

EDIT: Im sure certain devs who like to work on their own in private without public intervention or release, should really find a better place like Microsoft and Apple Dev Centers, Where being Open about work is OMG! OOPS! NO! kinda thing.
[Desire General] spitjo:
Unfortunately this is not the first case of socalled "developers" stealing money from users....

I don't know any othyer word to describe shakys behaviour.

Took money and run.

And he came back on this thread insulting all the community.

I just hope mods will ban him forever.

It's really disgusting
[Desire General] erklat:
What an interesting turn of events here. Last time I checked there were certain individuals I had to pick on because they opened idiotic threads and posted posts alike. Now themselves call some others stupid. Lol :)

As of this sense 4.0 fiasco, he doesn't own you nothing. You donated willingly and were not coerced to do so. IIRC there is this paragraph in rules which cites that if you think that developer owes you something, xda is not a place for you. Furthermore, it is you the same people who only knew to panic post about sense 4.0 and the reason he has the same amount of thanks as Lee or double the Droidzone etc long story short, do I keep him responsible of not delivering or stealing from someone? Of course not. I couldn't care less if he delivers or not because I know what phone I have and what it can or cannot do. This is just an indication how much fools we have in our midst.
[Desire General] nlooooo:
In my small country it is said:

As long as there are some sheeps there will be wool...

Sent from my HTC Desire via flashes and thunders
[Desire General] zakka1da:
@erklat: you are basicly for sure right but one big thing... there is difference between donations (thanks) done for work some dev did, legendary roms that were done for our device, these donations are "THANKS". But there is difference when someone comes and says [in easier way said]: "hey, I made this and that boot but would be fine to have your phone physically for easier developing but cannot or do not want to spend my money for that, someone to give or sell device or donate me to buy it?" - then you make community (noobs, trolls including as "asscrappers" would say) feel like you really want to show something and no one was expecting it will be done withing few days but some words how it is going would be nice... that is all. And this thread was not made to jugde anyone so rather be quite (not erklat, all of you) and post when there is something new Sense 4 related, thanks.
[Desire General] Co.Tibi:
Does anyone mind if I call this guy above a trolling douche? Dude I hope you're not going to PM me about this. Take it as it is and leave. No one is stealing from anyone. @ OP > Please shut this thread before you start annoying Shaky and the like. You people really can't stop can you? Spoiled little f***ers. I'm not going to write 3 pages on how wrong some of you can be. It's clear to the people that get it.
[Desire General] nlooooo:
'Please don't annoy Shaky...

If you annoy Shaky you're spoled little fu***r'

What to f**k?

Is that Shaky a god? Does he send lightenings? Does your phone or your fridge won't work if you annoy Shaky?

Sent from my HTC Desire via flashes and thunders
[Desire General] Co.Tibi:
Whatever douche no2... Anyway, I'm getting out of this pathetic looking / stupid thread and never looking back so that another douche with a small d**k can quote my post and say that I am wrong (like I care). And to Shaky (if you read this): keep up the good work.
[Desire General] erklat:
If he said that you need to pay to get a download link for that unusable pile of binary data some of you called a rom at that point, that would be a payware and he would be denied publishing here. We had a similar scenario with Yorzua. Even if it was like you say (and it probably was), you were still given a choice not to donate. This is not a case of him being crooked, but a case of 3000 people not thinking straight in Sense 4 frenzy. You created shaky and public opinion of him. Your choices led to this and you have to accept collective responsibility for them.
[Desire General] erklat:
Dafuq? Shaky, are you multi accounting?

The problem as I see it here is - what work? :D
[Desire General] zakka1da:
give it some more time, shaky is adult so why he should get annoyed by trolls, lols, lames, etc. Do not see any reason why this should change his mind as intelligent guy...

and erklat: come on, for sure no one here is forcing anyone to donate but you know very well what I meant so do not be so punctual, catching words. Reminds me of some donation called by some small dev studio of some "underground" game. People donated what they needed and for sure they expect "something" back, even thou it was without pressure...
[Desire General] spitjo:
Funny. A user since yesterday with 3 posts think he's the only one who knows what's right and what's wrong.

I'm here since 4 years and i never saw anything like this.

If one likes developing and sharing is welcome.

But he promised something just to raise donations. And then came back here just to say "you are a bunch of idiots, i'll post my work somewhere else".

We don't need this kind of people here on xda.

But you can keep on believing his lies if you like. Your choice.
[Desire General] ShadowCodeGaming:
People. I think you made it to this yourself.

YOU are the one's that kept on anoying a dev. Now the dev has had it with you and he is leaving because of YOUR kind of people. I watched the Nexus One forums become a fcked up place. Then we started to ban every troll we could find. Now i think the same needs to be done here. I cannot agree more with erklat and shaky. As for the donation thingy, it was your choice. YOU wanted to donate. YOU, AND YOU ONLY. You decided to donate, because you thought he deserved something for his work, in this case a phone to develop on. I think we can learn a lesson from this sh*t...

[/RANT]

EDIT: BTW, @shaky156: will you be leaving just the desire section and keep us happy Nexus One users updated or will you be leaving XDA completely?
[Desire General] :
For now I've stopped posting on xda only, im failing to understand why people are crying here, the threads are closed n thats all, the next release (yes there's a release and I'm continuing development as I've stated lots of times) will probz be released on website or twitter, will see how xda rules turn out over next few weeks n if there's any improvement in the current system, that'll make me decide if I will reopen the thread or not, its simple :)

Edit: no disrespect to others here :) my development style is majorly different than others here, I can easily do what everyone else does, grab a stock rom, add a few tweaks, apks, call it super smooth. Or grab also n compile, I do things people claim impossible, I only release an update when there is major changes/requires an update, not adding a few minor changes n releasing, I do what's best for development:)

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire General] sephiroth_vg:
Well, i held out for shakys rom...but development seems to be so slow :( i am finally leaving my Desire behind..it served me well all these years...just bought a one x..id like to say thanks to all the developers that supported and kept giving us new stuff to play with on our desire ^^
[Desire General] spitjo:
If only he kept the community a little informed on the development progress i bet on at least 50% less useless questions.

In the dev thread he posted something like 5 times in 6 weeks. This in not what happen here, not if users bought you the device.

I don't mean he owes something more than the respect and gratitude to who gave you his money.

About noobs, with more than 400 millions of android devices out there you simply have to live with them (maybe us). About silly noobs, same as before. Or simply leave the community. But leaving after raising the money is simply not honest.

Threads are closed and that's all. And thanks for the money fools!

You do things people claim impossible? Just show your fabolous skills. By now we only see a barely bootable piece of nothing.

You are ridiculos.

You are leaving? I hope you will delete your xda account soon. You know, just to demostrate you are not a hypocrite.
[Desire General] Mr Hofs:
WOW.....you are the reason why i understand shaky ! Look at your words....it's pathetic and polluting the xda forum.
[Desire General] Reb0rn:
Bunch of childish whiners here. Makes me want to puke. Specially 2 of you.

Pretty ****ty to open up a thread for this ***** behaviour.

Why are you mods allowing this? Its one thing to have a unofficiall thread if development have seized to actually HELP. Now the development on this ROM clearly has not stopped so what's the deal?

Troll thread. Completely reeks of it. Filthy. I feel filthy just by replying on this disgusting thread of no etiquette.