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[Nexus 7 General] filipokkk:
I found that 160 in ro.sf.lcd_density makes too small the entire UI, so i think a better value is 177 which seems to be the maximum value to get tablet UI in Nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 General] osm0sis:
Unfortunately the Play Store app doesn't like 170-177, which is why 160 was selected. :(

I'm sure this has been linked to already but here's how to do it with /data/local.prop instead of build.prop:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1800042
[Nexus 7 General] p1nky:
When using the build.prop method, there is some space unused in the homescreen where you cant place apps or widgets. I think this could be changed with some more modification of the build.prop.. If have a value of 170 out of the news entry on xda

Edit : i noticed that i lost movies and books in play store. Also the Google movies App Shows that it is Not compatibel to the Device. I tried changing back to 213 but with no luck.

Any same experience?
[Nexus 7 General] jaycustom:
Try clearing data/cache for the Play Store. Reboot.
[Nexus 7 General] MadPriest:
Hi guys

First, thank you for this thread

I have a question regarding Google's stock launcher using tablet UI. Is it possible to have the original launchpad when in tablet UI mode?
[Nexus 7 General] NickBennett95:
Error in given dpi and screen size in the main post

I assume no one else has realised this because the error is in the main post. It states that changing the nexus 7's dpi to 160 will give an equivalent screen size of 7.5" x 4.7" (8.8" diagonal). This is wrong. It would actually give a size of 8" x 5" (9.4" diagonal). As well, based on the screen practices post on android developers (I am not allowed to post a url) an 8 inch screen should be enough to give the tablet ui, for which a DPI of 189 would suffice. I haven't tested this and there may have been other discussion around this so don't hold me to that part.
[Nexus 7 General] NickBennett95:
Just tried different dpi settings and my prediction about 189 didn't work. It turns out 8 inch is not considered to be a tablet, but 8.5 inch is, making 177 the largest DPI for the nexus 7 to have tablet ui, and the bigger the DPI better for size of ui components in my opinion
[Nexus 7 General] Mach3.2:
177 works?

I'm using 170

Will the next nexus have a longer screen?
[Nexus 7 General] NickBennett95:
Yeah it seems to be the limit. Since posting I've seen other references to the 177-178 threshold. The best looking tablet ui I have managed to get though is using the method that allows you to get it without changing dpi, this way things don't look small, and then using a custom launcher like nova or apex.
[Nexus 7 General] jm1981:
What is this method "without changing dpi" ?
[Nexus 7 General] NickBennett95:
Sorry I should have specified: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1780970

Like I said though, I'd recommend using a custom launcher with this (nova launcher is the best imo) even though it says there is an updated launcher included. Make sure you go through all of the deodexing stuff because I tried the link which said you didn't need to deodex for, and it basically bricked my tablet.
[Nexus 7 General] notko:
I did it with Method 1.

Tnx..
[Nexus 7 General] kevinchen1102:
looks great but i always prefer original android ui.
[Nexus 7 General] AHoneycutt:
Funny part is that I like the setup on the normal Nexus 7 that I want to try it out on my Acer Iconia Tab A100.
[Nexus 7 General] psycho2097:
i have nevr n most likely, will never use a custom rom on my n7. In the first day itself, I just simply changed it to 160ppi, been loving it ever since.
[Nexus 7 General] gijosh28:
So I have this done on my Nexus 7, and I just got notification that 4.1.2 is available to install, but when I tried to install it, it failed. Any suggestions? If I revert back to normal and upgrade, will I be able to go back to tablet UI again?

Thanks,

Josh
[Nexus 7 General] starfighter1948:
Josh the OTA upgrade expects the screen DPI to be set to the default 213 so try switching it back. If you hit any snags such as modified system apps see Updating nexus 7 to 4.1.2 using OTA or [DL][OTL][ROOT] 4.1.2 update posts on the forum.
[Nexus 7 General] MegaSam:
Has anybody posted the original build.prop file? My nexus 7 wont boot after I changed the DPI
[Nexus 7 General] air.jmurph:
Build.prop modification

So I am pretty new at modding stuff (I've done updates via adb and thats close to it), but I have been reading up on the permissions of stuff. On the Nexus 7 is there a way, without root, to just adb pull the build.prop, edit it, then (the tricky part) adb push it right back to where it was?

I figure adb can edit all sorts of things that would normally require root access, so why not this?

If someone can help me out, it would allow me to get tablet ui without root. :D

Thanks!
[Nexus 7 General] sirdashadow:
Uh Oh

After I updated to 4.2, I switched the dpi to 160 but when I rebooted...the tablet is on 160dpi but still in phablet mode! How do I force tablet mode? :confused:
[Nexus 7 General] dominican2589:
4.2 got rid of the tablet ui. Go look at pictures of the Nexus 10. The phablet ui is here for good
[Nexus 7 General] tommykwan222:
well, i use 160 dpi

but i am still using the phone UI

I am using android 4.2
[Nexus 7 General] helloterence:
Tablet UI was removed in 4.2
[Nexus 7 General] eldedo:
oh no......well that sucks...
[Nexus 7 General] knitler:
ignore
[Nexus 7 General] blahblahyoutoo:
what? what a bummer.
[Nexus 7 General] redsuns:
so is there any other way to do it?
[Nexus 7 General] jatipton:
I would like to know as well. Was going to try this but then saw the notes above this post.
[Nexus 7 General] shmega:
It was removed in 4.2, true. But its still there deep in the framework. There's over 8 custom 4.2.1 ROMs out with true tablet ui. So its possible. My personal fav is sgt7

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Theres also a patch for tab ui for 4.2.1 stock or stock based ROMs

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1780970&page=92
[Nexus 7 General] Mogomra:
If I'm using a CM 10.1 rom without tablet UI, but with modified DPI in the build.prop, is there a way to scale the notification bar to be bigger? Settings -> Display -> Text Size is great, but it doesn't affect the status bar.
[Nexus 7 General] Pa9an:
*deleted*
[Nexus 7 General] tomlocatelli:
excellent, thank you very much for this information :) finally my nexus 7 has tablet mode :)
[Nexus 7 General] douzy:
Guess I could try it out when I get a custom ROM
[Nexus 7 General] thangpq.fuhl:
Not totally tablet mode

I followed your instruction that change the buildrop file to 160 dpi. The sreen resolution has changed, the setting has changed to Tablet UI but the 3 default buttons ( back, home, multitask ) still in the center, not in the left as the picture. Further more, the Notification bar still at the top, not the bottom. How can I fix this problem so that I can have a UI like the picture ?
[Nexus 7 General] PVL_93_RU:
Starting with 4.2.x, you can't get the TabletUI by simply modifying the build.prop. You should either use a patch or use a custom ROM that supports TabUI by default
[Nexus 7 General] thangpq.fuhl:
Can u recommend me any patch ? because I cannot install custom ROM now, my Internet connection is in trouble
[Nexus 7 General] douzy:
Personally, I prefer my default buttons centred and my Notification bar on top. So, just changing the dpi alone is perfect for me.
[Nexus 7 General] davelikestacos:
I am trying to change the DPI to 160, but whenever I do this, I get an error when trying to install anything from the Play store. "Unfortunately, the process android.process.media has stopped."

Is there anyway to fix this without reverting to 213? I want to use my tablet as a tablet and not an oversized phone :(
[Nexus 7 General] hlxanthus:
Try 178 DPI. I use that with tabUI with great luck.

Edit: I use my 4.2.2 mods to run this on stock with tabUI and the above DPI.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38749260
[Nexus 7 General] douzy:
I'm using 170 and it's perfect for me.
[Nexus 7 General] rockerblood:
please help

the status bar and notifications are still on top how to put it in bottom im currently at stock rooted 4. 2. 2

thanks in advance
[Nexus 7 General] blmvxer:
Is there anyway possible to get our UI to follow the nexus 10's? Where the dock is on the bottom and search across the top in landscape mode?
[Nexus 7 General] kpeev:
Help half tablet mode nexus 7, android 4.2.2 JDQ39B. I've done 160 dpi and then remained info bar and had to be 2 in 1 bar.
[Nexus 7 General] chonkat:
same here- status bar and notifications on top after changing to 160 and/or 170 dpi f

Any luck getting the notification and status bar to the bottom?

Regards,

Jon

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Never mind- I'm using 4.2.2 which I just read no longer has tablet mode available (only difference I notice is the notification, status bar, and 3 "home" buttons don't move.
[Nexus 7 General] jaybala:
Didn't work

It didn't change ui. Only resolution changes, and theres unusable empty space on top and bottom of the screen

I have a screenshot but can't link it because of forum rules for new members
[Nexus 7 General] pushkardua:
How To change Screen DPI [Video Tutorial]

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[Nexus 7 General] FLONE:
problems to get Tablet UI for a N7 3G 2012

I hve some problems to get Tablet UI from a N7 3G 2012 with 4.4.4 rooted with Nexus Root Toolkit. Now matter I modify for ro.sf.lcd_density parameter, I only get changes for dimensions of icons and menu, not the tablet_ui. What I do wrong?

thank you in advance
[Nexus 7 General] hlxanthus:
Tablet ui was removed from kk . . this mod will no longer work.
[Nexus 7 General] adiliyo:
they do work

does anyone how to take screenshots without using the SDK? it doesn't like to play friendly with windows8 and i am too lazy to boot into another OS. :P
[Nexus 7 General] iwantanandroid:
Hold down power button and volume down....thats what it is on my htc one s and my mums Galaxy SII
[Nexus 7 General] khaytsus:
ICS and HC as well, nothing new here.
[Nexus 7 General] Galactic2:
Looks pretty sweet in both landscape and portrait orientation.

How does the new expandable notification system work with the tablet ui modification? any screenshots of that.
[Nexus 7 General] iwantanandroid:
Padding?
[Nexus 7 General] adiliyo:
I tried that and home + power, neither work, i cant remember how i did it on my gnex but I'd assume its something similar to that...

Yes, the distance between the bottom bar and the lowest you can place an icon or widget, ill try to take a screenshot.

Basically lowering the padding let's you utilize more of the screen.
[Nexus 7 General] SladeNoctis:
Well people thought there was no more tablet ui due to the standard layout of the nexus 7. Decided to test out the build.prop since i doubt there going to enforce that phone ui on a 10incher. Anyway just wanted to help those that were a bit on the fence due to the nexus 7 phone layout.
[Nexus 7 General] iwantanandroid:
Oh ok....so you stated nova removes the padding....I have never used nova but can you use the standard google widgets with it? Is it just like stock?
[Nexus 7 General] SladeNoctis:
Heres a photo of the expandable notification,
[Nexus 7 General] thunder9111:
this is awesome news!!!! thanks!!!

other than the layout changing, how does this affect the font/reading?

this is exactly the way I want my tablet to look like

so basically we have to root it first?

I am familiar with es-explorer, and this looks pretty easy to do
[Nexus 7 General] SladeNoctis:
Well now you have a bit more space for more text. But you may need to adjust the size of the font to your liking. And yea you have to root to get into tablet ui.
[Nexus 7 General] adiliyo:
Yes, the standard Widgets work, its like the stock launcher but with more options.

I have noticed the play Widgets aren't working though, they won't populate with anything.

I'll try it with the stock launcher when I get hone to see if its a dpi thing or a launcher thing.
[Nexus 7 General] Peahnuts:
I was wondering if anyone knew, do apps load in phone or tablet mode regularly? Say, if I were to theoretically buy this tablet and keep it completely stock, would third party apps like Pulse, BBC News & ICS Browser+ load in tablet or phone mode?

I'm really curious about this because some stock apps load in tablet mode, eg. Chrome while others load in phone mode, eg. Youtube.

It would be kinda balls if apps like Pulse loaded in phone mode. :l

EDIT: I'm also curious as to why they still haven't included a wifi toggle in the notifications panel lol.
[Nexus 7 General] phil-t:
Another question I have is that running no standard DPI's on my DHD, the market would lock out loads of apps with (Not compatible with this device).. would we end up the same situation with this tweak?
[Nexus 7 General] adi6262:
I dont know why but i am unable to see the screen shots ! (blank jpg icon )

tried different browsers too . if you could attach them to OP ?

Edit: works , must be a temporary error some where .
[Nexus 7 General] Po1soNNN:
Working fine for me
[Nexus 7 General] jptech:
pretty sure I read somewhere that the LCD density was 216, not 213.
[Nexus 7 General] molesarecoming:
it does not matter. soon paranoidandroid will be ported, as soon as source is out. this will enable true hybrid mode. since version 1.6 we are independent of build.prop, you dont need to boot your entire phone into a dpi and by doing so screw things up. you can then simply drop systemUI into either tablet, phablet or phone mode, scaling and displaying everything else (navbar, buttons, widgets, apps, system components, lockscreen, etc.) in the way you want just like you do on the 40~ devices that have it now.
[Nexus 7 General] bhu1:
U lucky, B****!!! :(
[Nexus 7 General] KimCheeZZ:
Does the new notification system stay with this tablet ui? I.e. the addition info that comes with each notification

Thanks for the info:)
[Nexus 7 General] Spartacii:
I am sorry if this is a noob question but I am confused about something.

The high pixel density of the Nexus 7 is one of its main attractions. Basically, a 10" resolution in a 7" screen. No Retina Display but still.

So if you lower the LCD density from 213 or 216 to 170 dpi for the sake of having the Tablet UI, aren't you losing one of the N7's main selling points? Aren't you losing text sharpness and clarity that comes from a high dpi?
[Nexus 7 General] t-readyroc:
Wondering the same thing. I also checked out & am interested in ParanoidAndroid b/c of this thread.
[Nexus 7 General] iwantanandroid:
With the dpi changed to allow tablet ui... Does screen auto rotate?
[Nexus 7 General] Tone_Capone:
This definitely gets me off the fence about buying one of these bad boys. I just couldn't justify buying a 7 inch phone when I already have a Nexus.

Looks like I may be ordering one on Friday! :-D

Sent from my Gummyfied Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 7 General] adiliyo:
No, if anything things will look sharper because you are not modifying the actual DPI of the screen but lowering the DPI through build.prop gives the reverse effect, think of it like using a 17" monitor at 1080p vs using at 1024x768, the 170dpi makes the n7 look like the former, everything is smaller and in turn crisper in a way.
[Nexus 7 General] adiliyo:
Yes, the home screen will auto rotate in tablet mode
[Nexus 7 General] clintkev251:
you will have to use an app such as lcd density modder pro that will install a cracked market that spoofs your lcd density values to google
[Nexus 7 General] EVOXGSR:
I am waiting for this so bad! Already have your rom on my GNex and its amazing. I guess for now I have to just use plain old build.prop on my NX7
[Nexus 7 General] SladeNoctis:
Actually i posted screenshot on the first post of the Nexus 7 auto rotating :)
[Nexus 7 General] SladeNoctis:
I can't wait for your team's rom, personally i'm a fan and i know its going to be a huge success with jelly bean.
[Nexus 7 General] iwantanandroid:
Will ROM toolbox spoof the lcd density values sent to google?

Can anyone test this please?
[Nexus 7 General] patterone:
i have trouble understanding this.... seems to me, if you lower the "dots per inch" dpi, you have less dots available on the screen. the resolution has to go down
[Nexus 7 General] Mfeigley:
How do the expandable notifications work in the tablet ui? Do you still slide down with two fingers even though it has to slide up since it's at the bottom of the screen?
[Nexus 7 General] ande_uk:
No, it makes all icons and text smaller and everything more crisp, i do the same on my gnex, by default the density is 320, but i have it set to 240.

when android screens were 800x480px (and lower) the launcher was a 4x4 grid, when the gnex came out it had a 1280x720 screen but still only 4x4 grid, it didn't make sense, lowering the dpi enabled me to get a 7x7 grid.
[Nexus 7 General] SilentMobius:
You are lowering the _value_ that Android _reports_ as it's DPI, you are not changing the screen at all. In effect you are lying about the physical size of the screen

The default is 213dpi with a resolution of 1280×800 hence it's claiming that the display is 6in x 3.75in (7 inch diagonal)

If you alter the DPI to 170 you are lying to the system (and apps) and claiming that the 1280x800 display is actually 7.5in x 4.7in (8.8 inch diagonal)

When the apps think the screen is bigger they make the icons smaller and enable extra features (like multi-pane UIs)
[Nexus 7 General] Eclair~:
Please note the Nexus 7 already utilizes "Fragments" in its user interface.

Only the launcher on the device remains "phone like", apps stay in tablet form.
[Nexus 7 General] SladeNoctis:
That's in some apps since Google decided to give the Nexus 7 a hybrid of tablet ui and phone ui. They pretty much did this since there isn't a lot of compatible tablet apps on the play store so to deal with the lack of compatible tablet apps. They gave the Nexus 7 a 213 dpi and under the Nexus 7 model it can run most phone apps and all tablet apps. But the fragments layout is not widespread like in tablet ui where even settings is in fragments layout. The reason some people prefer the tablet ui is because of cross combination of navigation and notification bars and its good fragments layout across most major apps including Youtube. Eventually i'll have to edit the systemui.apk or if somebody can guide me of editing the systemui so we can stop depending on the dpi that much and have a similar experience do those that are familiar with parnoidandroid.
[Nexus 7 General] SladeNoctis:
Updated the post for other methods of getting tablet ui and some information updates for those that are interested. :)
[Nexus 7 General] RMXO:
I don't understand what you mean by spoofing but ROM Toolbox gives you more control over your device. I would recommend you download the app & find out for yourself.
[Nexus 7 General] seriouslyjeff:
This
[Nexus 7 General] Aztecbandit:
This was asked and answered about 5 times in this 6 page thread. Yes

Guessing you also did not read some posts
[Nexus 7 General] iwantanandroid:
Oh sorry I meant like will it still let u use apps designed for phone ui and not tablet ui
[Nexus 7 General] TahrirSquare:
I read that this app called "Ultimate Rotation Control" from the market will allow you to override the settings in the stock system and allows for automatic rotation.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsIm5sLmZhbWVpdC5yb3RhdGUiXQ..
[Nexus 7 General] SladeNoctis:
Yes its exactly like that I'll post a video Saturday, and cover all the uses of tablet ui on the Nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 General] thunder9111:
Look forward to it! Do fill one page full with icons or widgets so we can see the space we can work with, and what happens to it in portrait mode.
[Nexus 7 General] SladeNoctis:
Will do, but in a situation like that i recommend using a launcher to customize your personal needs and space. Apex launcher is a nice one and sslauncher has its own individual space on landscape and portrait mode.
[Nexus 7 General] masterofmayhem:
Side by side comparison?

The tablet UI screen-shots at the start of this thread are great, but I was wondering if someone with the N7 already could post some side by side screen shots comparing the N7 in "normal" dpi (or phone launcher) and in the lower dpi to make the N7 go into tablet UI. It would be nice to see this comparison. Thanks.
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
Going to lower DPI to get tablet interface is not good in my mind. I like the screen with crisp text, photos, video etc.

I think I would use my Nexus 7 in portrait mode i.e. just the way it is designed. For the sake of fun, I might try something like this later on when I am bored.

All 7 inch tablets are designed and supposed to be hold in portrait mode and Nexus 7 is no exception. This is why this tablet is 7 inch because it is meant to be hold in portrait mode for reading books, magazines etc. Movies are a different affair. Anyone want to use the home screen in landscape can install apex launcher or some app to rotate the screen with stock launcher.

As far as I am concerned, I am happy with portrait mode like a big gaint phone. Apple also designed it's iPad in portraite mode and people first laughed at it that it is a giant iPod touch and look where it goes. I can see what google is trying to do here. They are trying to build consistency here i.e. Galaxy Nexus phone and nexus 7 tablet should be consistant so that an average user can find using both fairly simple. Because most people think that android is too complex and difficult to learn only because the devices are not consistant. So anyone having both Galaxy Nexus phone and Nexus 7 tablet would have consistent interface.
[Nexus 7 General] blackhand1001:
Your not lowering the dpi. Your making Android think its a 10 inch device rather than a 7 inch device. The resolution is still 1280x800.
[Nexus 7 General] adiliyo:
Tablet mode in portrait works just fine, the main benefit from switching to it is the efficiency of the unified navigation and notification bar.
[Nexus 7 General] evoandroidevo:
:O I might try this if I can get one ie have enough money after buying a computer

Sent From My Rooted EVO 3D
[Nexus 7 General] masterofmayhem:
This is why I asked for comparative screen shots. To clarify the actual visual effect. I hope someone can post comparative screen shots
[Nexus 7 General] BPaul:
Hmm. On my tablet 1280x800 installed 160 dpi :D
[Nexus 7 General] SladeNoctis:
Just ask me and i'll do them. I'll do it tomorrow and do a comparison video as well.
[Nexus 7 General] DarkRyoushii:
You can hit two bird with one stone by answering this at the same time if you don't mind!

Thanks in advance!
[Nexus 7 General] masterofmayhem:
Would you mind doing the comparison? Thanks! I hope I am not asking for too much, but it would be good to see a home screen w/ widgets in "phone ui" and "tablet ui" form, a chrome page (might as well be the xda site) open in phone and tablet, and then something else, maybe an app (weather or something). It would be good to see how the change in dpi affects different things.
[Nexus 7 General] IncredibleMango:
I didn't think I would root right away, but this little trick has made me really tempted to root my Nexus right when I get it.
[Nexus 7 General] bigbade:
ok so 2 question 1 is does changing the dpi cause the picture quality to decrease other than some font being hard to read and 2 does leaving it stock mean now landscape mode only within JB meaning even in say netflix i couldnt use landscape mode?
[Nexus 7 General] altrikdout21:
From what people are saying, having it in landscape mode does not change how the screen looks at all. It should still be 1280x800, just as crisp as portrait.

And no, I believe movies and tv shows and stuff all rotate to landscape out of the box.
[Nexus 7 General] adiliyo:
1. No, because we aren't changing the actual DPI or resolution of the screen, rather we are telling the os that the screen is larger than it is so it is scaling for that, which in turn makes things (ui wise) look smaller, but also crisper and sharper.

2. The only thing (stock with stock DPI) that is locked in portrait mode is the stock launcher, all apps will rotate to landscape as long as the rotation isn't locked.