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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] alekhkhanna:
Nogo for me. All v10 and above cause random FCs and hangups :(

Went back to 8.1 and things are back to normal. :/

Running CleaNote 4.0
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] androiadicted:
share what?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] mitarai:
I've been using the combo cleanote + notecore since I got my Note. It's an amazing experience, but the new project I'm trying now just satisfies my needs a whole bunch better (but it's an entirely different universe than any other rom), but I really loved the kernel, that's why I asked, cuz I just wasn't sure and couldn't just say 'no' to notecore =D

Sorry if I offended you.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
So...

System is upgrading (title) with "Optimizing app X of XYZ" message means that dalvik was wiped, and now it is being re-created.

I'm on CleaNote V4 with NoteCore V10.6 and whenever that optimizing message popped up, it went through all the apps lightning fast! So no complaints if it would show up on every reboot :) .

System is upgrading (title) with "Start applications" message means that there are so many apps... and they cannot be started / loaded into the ROM (I guess) that fast. In any case, if this message appears, it usually goes away in a couple of seconds.

So... you DON'T have to full wipe! Even if you do, after you install/restore all your applications back, the "problem" will come back... :rolleyes:

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http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=29804309&postcount=3912 ... the modified ROM that guy made...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] DeKubus:
My phone gets really, REALLY hot while charging overnight. Somehow the CPU seems to be running at full pace while it's plugged in. This problem occurs for me since version 10.2. Any ideas whats going on? I don't want to go back to other kernels :/
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
Install CPU Spy. Right before you put the phone to charge, turn it off, let it cool down (if it's hot already because you played a game or something) for 5 minutes, then boot it up. Then, put it to charge and go to bed.

In the morning, see in CPU Spy what frequency was used the most. When the phone is charging, the CPU isn't going to deep sleep anymore - instead, it hangs at the lowest frequency (200 MHz, in our case, I believe). If you see the most used frequency is that, then all's good. If it's not (say, it was at 400 MHz or even more)... it's a problem... and I don't know how to help ya :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] DeKubus:
I will try that, thank you
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
NoteCore V10.6 standard extended testing

Same as here, but... different scores, since different kernel version, of course.

I'm not gonna benchmark V10.6 UNI.

V10.6 STANDARD

AnTuTu #1 - 6118 total. CPU : 2739 ; GPU : 1456 ; RAM : 1121 ; I/O : 802.

AnTuTu #2 - 6399 total. CPU : 2909 ; GPU : 1210 ; RAM : 1467 ; I/O : 813.

AnTuTu #3 - 6160 total. CPU : 2825 ; GPU : 1461 ; RAM : 1157 ; I/O : 717.

NenaMark 1 - 57.0 fps ; 57.2 fps ; 57.3 fps.

NenaMark 2 - 44.3 fps ; 44.4 fps ; 44.1 fps.

Linpack (MFLOPS)

Single thread - 54.757 ; 54.865 ; 54.865 ; 51.495 ; 53.093.

Multi-thread - 79.149 ; 82.68 ; 80.818 ; 84.039 ; 79.635.

Quadrant #1 - Total : 3489. CPU : 5635 ; Mem : 2151 ; I/O : 6580 ; 2D : 952 ; 3D : 2127.

Quadrant #2 - Total : 3490. CPU : 6157 ; Mem : 2019 ; I/O : 6346 ; 2D : 952 ; 3D : 1974.

Quadrant #3 - Total : 4084. CPU : 5750 ; Mem : 3434 ; I/O : 8226 ; 2D : 943 ; 2D : 2069.

Quadrant #4 - Total : 3541. CPU : 5925 ; Mem : 2836 ; I/O : 5827 ; 2D : 1006 ; 3D : 2111.

Seems like the performance is a bit worse with V10.6 STD than with V9 STD. AnTuTu and Quadrant benchmarks aren't very conclusive (the results being pretty much similar). But in NenaMark 2, you can definetly see almost one full frame per second increase. NenaMark 1 showed almost exactly the same results. I've ran some more tests on NenaMark, to see whether they would turn out to be the same or not, and they were the same, so no need to mention them in the results "table" above.

But, according to Linpack, the CPU performs worse with V10.6 than with V9. See for yourself.

The link to the previous test between V9 STD and V9 EX is in the first line of this post.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] batterytwo:
My Quadrant with 10.6 STD is 4450
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] dr.ketan:
Definitely improvement in battery life after wifi fix flashing on stock LRK + notecore 10.6
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] batterytwo:
+1
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ronfsp:
Am on KingDroid V7.1 LRK, NoteCore V10.6. I install the wifi fix. MTP stopped working. Try every means but cannot get it to work. End up do nandroid restore as i dunno how to uninstall the wifi fix.

Btw dr.ketan, why my wifi cannot connect by itself when it's in range, & likewise when i'm out of range it wun connect itself to 3G. I have to manually switch it. Coming from an iPhone previously i really dun have to worry abt this kinda things as it'll auto connect to watever available wireless it's available... Or is it i'm missing some settings???
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] elk2210:
Good idea to flash this fix on Rocket v8, too? I'm wondering what the fix does.

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] SandeepEmekar:
@g.lewarne:

Can you add something in the kernel which will remove black clipping/spots from the videos? :)

Thanks for the great Kernel. :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] g.lewarne:
v11 coming up today

- set gpu back to 160/267(std) or 160/400(uni) for better battery - no performance loss (160=900mv 267=950mv 400=1050mv)

- Fixed voodoo louder (again! why does this app need so many kernel features that slow things down? seriously its such a hacky app why do you guys use it? my note is plenty loud)

- 10.2/6 were based mostly of Update 4. Update 4 sucks, im dropping it back to HK Update 1 which everyone said had amazing battery life

- Couple more tweaks

- Should have MUCH better battery

- WiFi touchscreen sleep bug will most likely be fixed. Honestly I have NO IDEA what breaks/fixes it other than general build environment changes that it seems to follow

Now please can everyone stop with the moaning :p:D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] coolfire:
LOL... I ain't moaning, mate... Just patiently waiting. :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
Oh and... speaking of which...

The phone WILL get hot during charging, because the current must pass through the current convertor / power source that is in the motherboard (which converts current so it's entirely compatible for the phone), hence warming it up... That's why the top part of the phone will get hot - that's where the motherboard is.

But if the CPU would be idling at 1.4 GHz instead of 200 MHz, it would get EVEN HOTTER... That's highly unlikely to happen :) unless you have a rogue app which enjoys torturing your phone :rolleyes:

Hope you understand what this current convertor / power source that I'm talking about is. It's present in every phone : charging current doesn't go directly from the USB / charging port to the battery - it passes several "filters" first. And, because the Note is so slim... it gets hot, haha.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] ChrisHaze1:
So i used BetterBatteryStats to find out what keeps my Phone awake, went to bed when it hat 100%, now about 8 hours later its below 30%. So here are the screenshots.

And it is the Kernel that kept it awake, unfortunately i dont know how to stop this or what it means. But i think i am a better help this time :>

(I hope!)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
Stressing you once again

FFS ! So my extended benchmarking is once again obsolete... ALREADY. Lol.

I wanted to suggest you do that a long time ago... Some games require much less processing power than they actually get, hence consuming more than they should...

My Note is pretty loud, too. Call sound is loud. Speaker is meh... I mean, increasing the sound volume to, say, 50%, is made in small increments... THEN it goes up way louder with every step... I hate that -.-

Woohoo! 5d 10m 30s on Battery, here I come!

I never had such issues... I keep Wi-Fi on at all times when I'm at home, and my touchscreen was never unresponsive (except for one time, when my battery percentage also acted up).

NO! Wait, what moaning?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] DeKubus:
Well, it sure warmed up a bit during charging with previous versions. But now it is actually hot, way beyond anything you could call 'warm'. I didn't install anything new besides Real Racing, which shouldn't be much of an issue here. I'm seriously puzzled as to what is causing this, the only thing I did change was the kernel, so naturally I'm asking the question in this thread. Well, tommorow I'll know more, CPU Spy is already waiting for its turn :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
Oh yeah, there's also the thing that the kernel requires some time to "settle in"... But I doubt this can cause such "hotness" (so-to-say, haha).

Anyway... Do that thing with CPU Spy so you can see if the CPU is spiking (so an app is causing it) or not...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] doudou1206:
galvin

we can include the patch for the wifi directly in Rom
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] routey:
Thanks... Can't wait for v11... Overclocking gpu to 400 does not seem to make games any smoother imo...just higher quadrant scores..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] hotboy_ist:
I like that.... BTW i faced wifi issue too. My wifi is broken when the phone sleeps and never connects back until i reboot. And the wifi toogle does not respond... Wifi fix does not solve the issue. v11 look good... Because the important point is BATTERY for me... I wanna use my phone all day... You can make 3 types of your kernel... one is extreme, another standart, last one is lower battery consumption... I do not thiknk it is hard for you. Keep going, good work
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] sotmax:
When i had the same with those couple of notes i solve it only by starting the whole flashing process from the very beggining(original gb etc etc). As the problem stil persists after that i realize that i had to unroot and root again as super su, su and all the busybox files are conflict each other really dont know why.

I had some flashing hangs or flashing errors,quit and reboots etc.

My opinion is to flash gb unroot if you are and then flash official 4.0.4 and root again and start fron beggining with clean files inside your device.

After root and cwm install and when you re on a safe kernel just wipe everything and flash your desire rom.

I know this is a headache but i didnt find another way to avoid those errors.

If someone knows other way better, faster and with less process than this is ok but i m only find that this is the only way. ...

Good luck

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
+1 to that.

GTA 3 frame rate (for example) is the same on both STD and UNI...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] azzledazzle:
But moaning is what us brits do best !

If there was an olympic moaning contest, we would be getting Gold medals all the time !
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] vessk0:
Best kernel with best support ever!!! :good:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] g.lewarne:
im not going to make a "super battery" kernel. Im after performance, that what im all about.

However, i will say this, again:

EVERY VOLTAGE EXCEPT "GROUP A 1600MHz (and only 1600mhz)" IS ALREADY UNDERVOLTED COMPARED TO STOCK KERNEL VALUES. THAT GOES FOR CPU AND GPU
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] g.lewarne:
Other games depend on it though for smoothness - a good example, oddly is "Speedex 3d"

Oh, and to add to my above post, stock kernel voltage for 267mhz GPU is 1000mv. My kernels set 400MHz to 1050mv

here are the defualt kernel voltages and what my kernels set for GPU

FREQ Stock Uni STD
160 950 900 900
267 1000 X 950
400 1100 1050 X
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] sotmax:
My way before flash kernel is to turn off wifi and data connection.

That way i v never had any issue and before reallize that i ve had some....just turn off wifi and flash again kernel and see...

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
Ahh... I loved that game. I still have it installed. I'm on V10.6 STD right now, let me check how smooth the game moves :) .

So... 400 MHz on your kernel consumes less battery power than 267 MHz on stock? Why the hell underclock it then :D

One thing, though... and this was going on in the Motorola ATRIX community I've been a part of in the past. Undervolting can't result in better battery life since voltage =/= current and the thing that actually "charges" things up is the current, miliamps... and I don't see anyone to underamp something :D . Just bringing this up here now...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] g.lewarne:
it wont consume less power, but it will be more efficient. It will certainly consume less power than if you Tegrak Overclock it
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
Umm... So undervolting doesn't mean less power consuming, but less heat emerged?

As far as I knew, circuits crossed by electricity = heat... so less heat = less electricity crossing through?!

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Speedx works flawless with V10.6 STD. So you're saying that a lower GPU clock would make it lag a bit...?

Also, I can't get how a game like Speedx would require more processing power than a hungry game such as GTA 3 :/

Speedx frame rate is the same as last year, when I had the HTC Desire, which packs a MUCH LESS POWERFUL chipset.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] g.lewarne:
then they dont understand the basic principles of Ohms law

Power (watts) = Current X Volts

Current = voltage / resistance

Since the resistance of the internal components wont change (it depends on how they are built) lowering the voltage will result in a net current reduction

eg (just a basic example)

Component has resistance of 100ohms

Stock voltage is 2v

Current draw therefore = Voltage / Resistance = 2/100 = 0.02a (20ma)

Power = Current X Volts = 0.02x2 = 0.04watts

If we reduce the voltage to 1v, without changing the components (hence resistance)

Current = Voltage / Resistance = 1/100 = 0.01 (10ma)

Power = Current X Volts = 1 X 0.01 = 0.01 Watts

By reducing the voltage, we reduce the current :good:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
Everyone, thank this post of Gavin's right now! It's useful for all of you :p

I'm pretty sure the developers on the Motorola ATRIX community were pretty much well taught... but there HAD to come a few guys to contradict their theories and start a whole discussion blaming the developers for undervolting and lying to us... And since I had no knowledge of electricity and how exactly 100% it works at that time, I joined the bang wagoon.

Anyway, what you're saying makes sense. I actually learnt this in college... I am yet to understand how voltage/amperage is actually produced, but oh well.

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Sooooo... hang on... I think you just enlightened me on how amperage is produced. You apply a voltage on a resistence and amperage is resulting?!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] betoNL:
Why you just don't use the standard version, than take an app such as Tegrak or SetCPU, and do your own CPU / GPU , voltage tweaking and more?

So your in control and able to to find the most stable configuration for your particular device....

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] g.lewarne:
Electricity has an amazingly simple way of thinking about it (only applies to DC really)

You Have a Water pipe that is 50cm wide

Voltage = Volume of water

Current = Force of water

So your pipe is just trickling a bit out of the end = low current and low voltage

You pipe has a full width, but non-forceful water flow = High voltage, low current

Your pipe has a full width, massive forceful water flow = High Voltage High current

Amount of water = voltage

Flow speed of water = Current

Current is not something that is generated, it is a function of the "force" of the electrons being pushed through the circuit.

So your very last statement, "You apply a voltage on a resistence and amperage is resulting?" is absolutely correct

Another way of thinking about this:

Take a Car headlight bulb, 12v

When connected to he car, it has a brightness output of say 1000 lumens and draws 50watts, but the car battery is capable of MASSIVELY more power

You take that same bulb and connect it to a small mains transformer, as long as that transformer can still supply the 50 watts the bulb needs you will get the same brightness, even though the transformer is not capable as producing anywhere near as much power as the car battery

A device will only draw as much current as its internal construction allows, never more, but can always be less
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
I'm sorry, I'm probably seen as a retard when it comes to this... I thought it isn't like that beacuse our teacher told us there are more types of sources, including : real sources of tension (voltage), real sources of current (amperage), ideal sources and etc... So I figured : okay, so the CPU is getting voltage from one source (which is handled by what you do in the kernel - undervolt, overvolt, hypervolt XD) and current from another source (for which, specific details like how many miliamps the CPU is getting for what frequency)...

I knew that amperage = ammount of electrons, voltage = their force. Haha... So voltage = ammount of electrons and amperage = the speed those electrons are being pushed.

So yeah, it makes even more sense now (lol). You don't change the width of the pipe (the resistance of the CPU materials), you only change the ammount of water that is going through the pipe, and if the ammount = bigger then the force increases, as more water is pushed through the same, small pipe...

Right? :D

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I think we should all make a petition to increase the daily post thanks to a bigger value... 8 is just not enough...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] g.lewarne:
precisely!

have another look at my previous post, i explained a bit more

BTW what we are talking about here only really applies to DC (as in out phones etc). AC has a different set of rules entirely and then you get into the realms of root mean square values etc etc

EDIT:

interesting fact for the day -

Heat generation in electronics has nothing do do with the "work" being done, it is actually a result of the friction of the electrons moving through the conductive materials
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
Thanks :D .

Yeah, I never understood why AC is more dangerous than DC to us, haha. I also never understood what the difference between them is. But enough with that, I have Wikipedia, don't worry any further about it :D .

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Then, by what you're saying... the power (watts) resulting after undervolting is LOWER... hence... LESS POWER is actually consumed => better battery... Right?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] g.lewarne:
:good: you got it! :)

oh, and AC and DC are both as lethal to us.

To Kill a person with electricity you need....

DC - Low voltage, high current

AC - High Voltage, teeny tiny Low current
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
Since a car battery is immensely powerful... I'll take another similar example. The only difference is that the car battery is DC, and the wall socket is AC.

But the principle is about the same, I guess.

The phone needs 5V -- 1A. The wall socket provides 220V --- ... A? Nevermind the amperage of the wall socket now.

The charger has enough resistors to cut the voltage down to only 5V, and other components to reduce the amperage, too, I guess.

Same goes with the car headlight bulb, right? It has enough resistors to reduce the immense ammount of power it would otherwise receive from the battery (which would make it explode, haha).

[obviously, we're continuing our Wikipedia, off-topic talk :D but I like it, haha]

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I thought brits are best at drinking beer, shouting @ strangers and making everyone wonder "what the F is wrong with these guys" with your accents :D .

No offence... This is entirely fun-purposed (I love inventing expressions).
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] g.lewarne:
i dont think its off topic, i think it will be education for all.

You have gone from understanding to confusion! :p

A component can only draw as much current as its construction allows. A car headlight bulb is in effect directly connected to the battery witout any current limiting devices. Because of the size of its filament, only 50w of power can flow through it at 12v. Having a bigger current supply at 12v will not change how much power it is consuming.

What will blow the blub and or change its power output is changing the Voltage as then you are trying to push a larger--or-smaller-than-its-capable amount of electrons trhough its filament (pipe)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] Formhault:
Erm... Okay. Guess this is over my head.

Car battery = enough to kill a person. Connect the two pins, and off you go :D .

Wall socket = applies high voltage on your internal organs/stuff resistance, what you ate etc. etc. etc., which results in the current being produced and ultimately killing you. Haha :D

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Whoops... Sorry.

I thought it works the same way as wall chargers do. If you'd connect the phone directly to the wall socket, it'd blow up... The charger's construction (internals etc.) limit or better sad CONVERT the power so it's compatible with the phone, not dangerous.

So you're telling me the 12V bulb is connected to the battery directly... battery which outputs way more than 12V, way more than 5 amps (50 amps, to be specific, as far as I know). Then the bulb itself has a construction similar to that of a charger, which somehow converts/limits the current so it's not dangerous... erm... RIGHT? :/

:confused: :crying: :laugh:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Android Development] g.lewarne:
nah you actually need around 50v DC to conduct through a person. You could hold both terminal of a car abttery all day and not feel a thing. You would start to feel it at about 30v i think at which point you would probably be dead if the current was high enough

Anyway - back to our conversations

Perhaps an easier way of thinking about this is:

Current = maximum amount of "Force" that any given electricity supply can provide, but is not inherently "generated"

Voltage = Defines how much Current and therefore "Force" the circuit consumes, depending on its RESISTANCE. Electricity supplies generate "Voltage only (tension)"

Resistance = The natural, unchangeable amount of friction that the moving electrons have to overcome