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[HTC One S] Closed Source Project:
You guys on the first page must be pretty challenged... CM9, AOKP, and PARANOID are based off the the CM9 source. They have NOTHING to do with Sense. The only Sense based ROM (not stock ROMs, IE TrickDroid) is one version of MIUI as it has the stock Sense camera and such...

Sense was created because it's what HTC wanted. Why is there TouchWiz, Moto Blur, or anything else like that? It's because the device manufacturers wanted their own version. Thank the dev team for the option to switch different version of Android... We will only have AOSP ROMs and not ever stock ICS (no mods) ROMs because there is no stock ICS for our device. Only Sense or AOSP.
[HTC One S] nvillamob:
That's really funny that you're calling him out when CM is definitely not stock vanilla ics.
[HTC One S] ptweasel:
So, the easiest answer to this question is because no one, including the OP, has created one yet, if its even possible with what there is to work with.

I'm actually pretty happy with all of the options devs have created for this phone.
[HTC One S] tenchu_712:
only "nexus" phones have vanilla ics
[HTC One S] LikeaG2root:
Not as funny as you saying CM9 is not aosp. It is built from aosp and made to look look and act like aosp. Don't understand you fools?????

Sent from my HTC VLE_U using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[HTC One S] maverick_hunter:
He never said that. Relax, man. The OP is just commenting on how he's tired of Sense and would prefer a more vanilla experience.
[HTC One S] Senzune:
What does "stock ICS" actually mean in this context? AOSP is the true Android experience as Google intended, right? So, is stock ICS something else?

So we can get:

AOSP - original;

AOSP - customized;

Sense - original (default)

Sense - customized.

Is this correct?

Wouldn't we be able to get TouchWiz ROMs, for example?

I'm new to flashing ROMs and all, but I've been following the scene for the past few months, and even though I can say I'm among the brighter people, I still have difficulties understanding - mostly - the nomenclature of the scene.
[HTC One S] Kermode:
We don't have it because is EVIL. That stupid google search gadget permanently stuck to all pages is ridiculously stupid. Plus indeed a lot of the interface. HTC Sense is like a cool breeze.
[HTC One S] renehd2:
well i come from HTC Sensation ROMS, and in that sections there are a lots of "Senseless ROMS" where everything related with sense is removed, except for the camera, and the roms were so smooth and as fast as AOSP ROMS, the feeling was exactly the same,

I hope someone make a senseless rom for HTC One S soon because its really awesome (like a AOSP rom without any bug becaus its based on a sense rom byt without any sense part)
[HTC One S] WCCobra:
There are AOSP roms; they are just in the alpha stage of development and rather buggy in some areas. If you want a senseless ROM (as in the actual sense launcher removed), any of the HTC-based roms (including stock, non-rooted phones) can have Sense removed and replaced by any launcher from the market. I've tried the existing AOSP roms, and aside from the bugs... the stripped down HTC-roms as just a quick.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zainiak:
I have been using this for a long time, but many people dont know about this. I have heard that flashing an older nandroid from ics could cause a hard brick so this is used for precation

1. make a nandroid backup

2. copy nandroid backup file to computer (/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup)

3. flash whatever ics rom you want

4. if you don't like it, go back to stock gingerbread, flash CWM recovery

5. copy the backup from your computer to the same folder on your phone

6. run a nandroid restore

Just a little tip for people who didnt realize that they can do this :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] The Root:
This is not very detailed at all and there are guides by devs themselves. Didn;t you already do this and get locked?

IBTL
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cnstarz:
i think someone's trying to their thanks meter up. i'm talking about me. here's some pics of i found were funny on imgur.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] krazy_smokezalot:
Lmfao whoooop der it is!!! IBTL
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AndroidExpert04:
Lol at least the pictures were here.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] quick99si:
Don't these threads usually end up in a sarcastic tip exchange marathon?

TIP: you can take a snapshot of your entire screen by pressing power and home keys at the same time D: omg try it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lickarock:
TIP: you can turn your phone off by either long pressing the power button and selecting power off or by pulling the battery! How cool is that?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SAShady:
Tip: Long pressing the search button will result in the activation of voice search
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SAShady:
Doesn't work on ICS leaks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Tip: Power and Vol down on ICS.. :silly:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cnstarz:
tip: if you took all the elephants in the world and put them on the moon, they would all die.

no, you leave. okay fine, i'll leave. :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zainiak:
this was my first post i've done on this forumn
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dw3bb10:
Anyone else BORED?! I wanted this phone so bad, and I was extremely excited when I first got it in December. Its still a beast of a phone, but the flashaholic in me is BORED! (Especially coming from an EVO 4G) Am I alone in this?! When AOKP/CM9 first arrived it was exciting, but the TW ICS leaks got old pretty fast. And who wants ICS anymore with the arrival of Jelly Bean! It just seems as if everything has slowed down CONSIDERABLY....and I get why....it just sucks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
If you're bored then you aren't taking full advantage of all the incredible ICS ROMs available.

Take a walk on the wild side and flash a new one each week until someone ports Jelly Bean, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm sure if it can be done one of our Devs will do it but most of them are focused on getting source for ICS right now so they can improve on their existing ROMs and build new ones.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
I feel the same, and yes I flashed all ROM that are currently on first page of developers section. So yes I taste the full potentials of many ROMs but no single one satisfy me like to keep one as daily driver.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
if youre bored you havent flashed my roms.. i make new builds daily.. i just dont post them here.. they change too much.. you can find me on irc, or look around and i bet you can find the roms...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dw3bb10:
Ill definitely check them out! I need something new!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ind3lible:
I feel the same way. Thinking of just getting the SGS3 since I still have an upgrade left.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] The Root:
You realize there's like 2 roms so far for the SGS3, right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
PM me please I never ever used IRC want to try something new.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
Jelly has been out for like 4 days

if you want things that fast get a nexus
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] quick99si:
I found myself to be "bored" as well, but then I realized that the reason was because of the stability I was getting on Blazer 4.0 (four months of use!).

Still looking for my fix, I started testing out all the new offerings on here. I ruined one GS2, "unbricked" it, bought a white one, then stopped in the GS3 forum to see that PH was making a Blazer rom for that too.

So I picked up a GS3 to keep me busy in my down time.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dazednconfused:
You could probably go back to your Evo and start having fun again since our work is so boring over here.

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bajaoc:
+1 why not create your own ROM instead of insulting all our devs here, why do you need to complain for something that you didnt even developed or created
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BHurst:
Where in irc is everyone?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
freenode #ICS-DEV-E4GT
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
Bored seems to be a strong word. I don't think it's that the devs stopped working because there's still plenty going on. They are working hard with what they have but that's just the thing - they don't have a lot to work with. No source, nothing.

Things might be a bit more "exciting" for you if we had real access to Cyanogen or just AOSP in general but we don't. No offense to the devs involved in AOSP roms and the AOKP rom, but they are highly hacked in order to make them work decently on this phone.

For one we're dealing with the Exynos processor - not the S4. Also, Samsung sucked on their source release, from what I understand it was incomplete and will probably be the same with ICS. There's also the emergency call issue the CM team found which is why our phones not supported. Again, that's because of the incomplete source Samsung gave us citing 'proprietary code' being the reason it was incomplete.

So if you'd like to tell someone how bored your experience is with this phone - tell Samsung. Otherwise it's falling on deaf ears around here.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] globalninja:
I stopped coming back because way too many people complain about everything...oh well
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bruce Inman:
I'm only bored because I have found a stable daily driver.

Yes, it's exciting to have the latest, but ****s got to work.

Major props to chris41G and crew. I throw money at these guys as much as I can because without them, you would truly know what it is to be bored with your phone... Amazing stuff these guys are doing without source! :highfive:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] husker apollo:
i am still on aokp 37, even tho 40 is out i'm holding out for source. it's just sort of a pain to backup and reflash and set everything when i feel like it's so close to being "next level". 37 does have a few hiccups but it's been my daily driver since the day it was released.

with the gsiii out and jellybean as the new hotness, i really hope sammy doesn't hold out on us too much longer.

all that said, i don't think it's fair to criticize the scene here at xda (not that "being bored" is major criticism at that) as it's really samsung holding everything up.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cas8180:
Come on dazed don't put on your sensitive hat. Dude didn't mean it as an insult we all love your work. And appreciate just like all the other devs. I think a lot of his point is really contributed to how the leaks have just slowed down. And how jb is basically out now and we still don't have the official ics update and source for our phone. I feel the same way and I am a flashaholic too. But I am confident once we do get out update plus source we are really gonna see a whole new world open for our device. It's just patients
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dazednconfused:
I don't have my "sensative hat" on, I was just stating that if he's not happy go elsewhere. I don't put my stuff on the level as other devs here anyway. I dont consider myself a dev. The things they do are amazing. I would've never released anything without them and their work. So at least so some consideration to them and word it more to Samsung if that's what he's complaining about.

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dz1:
I completely understand we're you are coming from i come from the evo og and it's completely different but I would not call it boring.. My view is that in the evo there are way more things to do with the phone and it's exiting to run ics on a underpowered phone making people thankful and things much more exiting when your phone runs things it's not supposed to. As compared to the e4gt a monster of a phone were some people complain about ics or why things don't work or complaining about every other thing. I think there should be more appreciation towards the guys working on this phone.. Development is handicapped become of the emc bug that can brick your phone not because theres no safe way to flash but because some people in this case my self are afraid to take the risk and flash a good rom
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phpracing:
i think its just a calm before the storm. IMO, just gonna wait it out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dw3bb10:
Thanks dude, this was exactly what I meant.

Why is everyone taking what I said so personal, catching feelings? Maybe my choice of the word "boring" was a bit strong, but its how I felt at the time of posting. There ARE some amazing ROMS for this phone. Such as Blazer 4.1, which I find to be EXTREMELY stable, and is probably my favorite ROM. I never said there wasnt, nor did I discredit any developers. Id never do that. It just seems as if the atmosphere of things has been continually slowing down day by day is what I was saying. I know we're all DYING for devs to get an official OTA and kernel source so they could really do some work! I really miss AOSP, but theres such a big sacrifice when going over to one of those roms. I do expect things to pick up soon though. But until then, thanks to Sprint, Samsung (or both), we're at a stand still!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
just so you know.. this post ^^ is 99% bull****
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shabbypenguin:
pft im far from bored, just got jellybean and i am still playing with it :D

oh wai... >.>

anyways cm9 still has new commits to it every day, some may not be for the e4gt but there is new stuff all the time.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Houndog101:
Sadly I agree,, If you look to your phone for excitement, you may want to reexamine your priority's,,, LoL
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shabbypenguin:
actually what chris is reffering to is

ive highlighted areas that are wrong :) im curious about 2 things, what "real access" is, afaik it meant being able to go and grab new nightlies form the cm team, instead you grab em from team epic.

also concerned about what the s4 has to do with anything? the i900 has official and it has exynos
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] digweed4me:
Phantom hacker just released his blazer ROM for sg3
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattneedshelp:
I agree with OP, but it's mostly because I'm tired of test trial leaked builds from Samsung that haven't led to any official release.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tykalx:
i think its just frustration talking, and im grateful for what xda has done for all of us, i think op should have the right to say what he feels, its not like he speaks for all.

im on blazer, its GB as its finest,but i've loved most of the ics work that has been put.

its a message board, dude should be able to say something even if people don't agree with it, its not like he is being a troll or disrespectful.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ind3lible:
Yeah I saw :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sleshepic:
Would put in my two cents, but I just got bored with this thread.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] memoerdezguey:
Im not the only bored nobody here:) havent look in e4gts threads for a while..still have same rom since last month..thats a 1st...maybe cause theyre all the same rom with diff theme or maybe cause im having fun rootin and pimpin my girrls one x which is way better than this phone..cant wait for lte in L.a
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
You're right people should have the right to say what they feel or think, but keep in mind the same right is extended to all including those who take issue with something that was said or how it was said.

In a text only medium it's very easy to misconstrue what someone is trying to say and that's why it's of the utmost importance for people to try and express their opinions in a manner that is as clear as possible.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sleshepic:
Geez, alright now I will put my two cents in. Learn how to actually look at the insides of a rom and then say they are all the same. Almost every rom out there has a dif set of tweaks and edits. They are far from all the same, and there is far more than theme that differentiates them.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] memoerdezguey:
All diff tweaks which ends up doin the same as other tweaks...guess we need ics source to really pimp da hell out of this phone...but blukubans doin miracles without source
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Amen slesh!

And anyone who has actually run more than one ICS or GB ROM for more than a day or two can tell you they are not all the same, even those of us who are not developers and themers.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] caspersfi:
All I can really say to the op is If your really bored maybe educate yourself on some things like themeing. There are plenty of links out there that can help you. Maybe you can start modding your phone like you want...... and trust me, this will take up PLENTY of your down time.

Oh yeah and Dazed you suck. Your awesome themeing and ROM work is boring the hell outa me. ;-)

Seriously tho op..... maybe look into modding your phone on your own. Might be fun once you start to get the hang of it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Fantastic advice and this is a community filled with people who are willing to help others who want to learn. If you want to learn to build ROMs, kernels, themes or apps then you are in the right place.

I personally believe boredom is a state of mind (I preach this to my son often lol). I'm never bored, there is always something for me to do, read, learn or just help out where and when I can.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sleshepic:
yeah I agree, I'm not "catching feelings", but if you truly are bored I have some smali code I've been looking for for like 9 days, want to help with that? Sure it would cure your boredom :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dazednconfused:
I don't like smali, it intimidates me. Gotta say though I held a SGS3 at Sprint today and it grows on you fast.

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Boy it really does. I have one sitting right in front of me and it's a tougher decision then I would've imagined it to be. It definitely fits nicely into the hand, even small ones like mine. :)

Though I can't really try it out until tomorrow afternoon when I can move it to my account from my son's account and really dig into it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dazednconfused:
I was very tempted. Almost broke down and made the deal.

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sleshepic:
Yeah played with one a couple days ago. See they finally baked extended toggles in - took a while. Very nice unit though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I'll have more to report this weekend. I'm going to activate it and give it a test run but likely will switch back to my E4GT as primary especially while I'm familiarizing myself with rooting and ROMs for the SGSIII.

It's going to take a lot to replace my E4GT, we'll see if it's up to the task. :good:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shabbypenguin:
whoa.. did i join team venum forums..? >.>

see they are rollin deep in this thread ;P

yea but you know what the crappy thing about sgs3's are? no custom kernels.. no oc's/UV's....

i did see this one thing tho
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
:good: I'd say the outlook is favorable. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] caspersfi:
STOP with the SG3 talk!! I no longer want to hear about ppl leaving my phone.

Thanks;-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Sorry :o but I'm not leaving this phone, at least not yet, new phone has a lot of wowing to do before I let go of my E4GT, and even then I'm not letting it go, besides I'd miss all you guys way too much to actually leave. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
Chris41 how is it BS? Please inform me, I'd really love to know how the fact that Samsung f'd up the source they gave us is bull**** when that's exactly what happened.

Maybe you need to go back to the early days if this phone and read those source release threads again. Why was LOS an issue again? Why wasn't it fixed until Sprint released an update? The devs tried but couldn't. Why doesn't CM support this phone?...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
Maybe you need to go back to the early days of this phone and read the threads and remember who was fixing LoS.. and didnt even own the phone.. I'll wait for it..

we arent supported because we don't have ICS source... we could easily be CM7 official, but noone feels its worth the effort with ICS source inevitibly around the corner..

its BS because, exynos phones make up a good amount of official devices, the emergency call issue happened on a lot of official devices and has been resolved for quite some time..

Samsung never "cited" anything about proprietary anything as to why the source release was ****ed.. it was mostly a defconfig problem as I proved with LoStKernel..

Before talking **** why dont you try some of my aosp builds which actually work better than just about anything out there.. def better than stock...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Censura_Umbra:
I know what the open means. I've been on the alpha cm9s since caulkin left. I keep seeing blazer being recommendeded but I don't see a reason to switch roms.

The vibrant already has a JB port. Yeah... so I know we don't have source for ics, but I'm sure our devs could make a great go at JB. It would be fun to watch the progress!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
Wow man, nobody is talking any sh** and you need to seriously calm down. Maybe stop drinking. You think you're some kind of bigshot because what, you did a few things here? That's great, keep doing what you do but don't think you can run around here violating the rules and being a douche because of the "recognized developer" title.

If my statements were wrong, fine. Kindly correct them and move on. I'm not on here 24/7 unlike you are (it seems) so I don't read every single little development that happens. Since I have a life I might miss coming here for days in a row, may a week or so even. What I said was based on what I read at one point or another so if something came up that changed that, great. You knew exactly what I was referring to in most of what I said, it changed since I last gave a damn about it, oh well. So bull****? I think not. Outdated, yes.

Now get off your high horse, cool your head and stfu. It's assholes like you that are pissing everybody off. Maybe try realizing that the internet might have some mistakes on it, live with it, and correct them in a civilized manner.

And yes, I will try some of your AOSP builds. You posted the IRC a page or two back, right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris-allen:
who cares about a jelly bean... Im smokin a blue kuban now!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris-allen:
oh... and btw.... dude.. you got one of the best fastest phone out today.. install GB, overclock to 1.6Ghz and this phone flys off the benchmark scales!! blows EVERY other phone out if the water...

then hell, try some ICS roms! little slower, but realy sweet lookin and smooth.. try the blu kuban or some of the brighter looking roms that use the LG launchers and crazier graphics.... also u can use and play around with tegrak... add a slight overclock, ( cant much since the lack of source ) and enjoy some custom look and personalization!

i wouldnt complain, the evoS arent all that, and if you just have to have that funky weather sence clock, then download " fancy widgets " .( paid ver.. its worth it ) then chose the HTC skin... its the same clock with weather and animation!

point... enjoy your phone! at least your not on a nokia 3200!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jayharper08:
Stand-by please.

Edit: Nevermind, I'll just keep this closed as there's no point of even keeping it open.