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[HTC Rezound] zone23:
This is why the rezound is dead on XDA

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28228389&postcount=6
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
Exactly. Even though he's moved on It's almost like he's discouraging others from putting stuff out for the phone. Don't get me wrong I appreciate that he has helped and put out some good things for the rezound. I'm thankful for everything that's made for the phone. Zone included. In the end it's all about doing what we like to our phones. Not discouraging others for doing the same to theirs and sharing their work
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Is it untrue? About You just theming Newts 4.0 rom.

ReZound
[HTC Rezound] zone23:
I have edited the post now as I tend to read into Cons comments more than others would.. Con has been good to you guys but him and I just don't get along. Its mostly my fault but we conflict.
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
I heard from Eris that Team BAMF is working on something for the Rezound and that it would be a "game changer".

Unfortunately, there has been some Rezound developers that took a political approach to the whole thing; take people's money, make promises that something huge was right around the corner, and in the end nothing gets done, so I'll believe in a game changer when I see one, but perhaps there will be a shiny new Sense 4 ROM released by the people over at BAMF.

As to why developers are moving away, I think community trolling and drama didn't help, but I think what was the most toxic was developers bashing each other.

In the mean time, NilsP's ROM is really solid, Con's V4 also runs extremely well, and there's a Sense 4 option too on another site, so it's not like we have nothing. We don't have a new ROM every day anymore but it's good to take a break from flashing, for me anyways.
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
I just really want the community to pick back up. I am stuck with Rezound for 2 years, and I am fine with that. I love my Rezound, but I don't want to be running a 6 month old rom.

We just need developers to see the potential.
[HTC Rezound] Divine_Madcat:
All too often, "politics" takes a needless toll on things like this. People allow their emotions to run away, and before you know it, things fall apart.

The thing is, communities survive drama all the time. What killed/kills/will kill us, is how VZ marketed the phone in the first place. It was always behind the Razr and Nexus, and we just didn't have enough people come on in the first place. We were lucky to get the devs we did, but thanks to VZ, this device never caught on like it should have.

Ah well, there is always the next phone (which will probably NOT be a VZ)..
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
I don't know if this is specific to VZ, but with Android in general, the next phone to come out is always THE phone that people will keep for a long time and it's never the case.

The whole marketing strategy I think is to make sure the next phone makes your current one look outdated by not supporting development, being late to release source, and providing no software updates.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
Well, the INC, and Evo were like THE phone, so why shouldn't the Rezound have been? it has much better hardware than anything out on VZW (even after 8 months) except the s3, but ****ing VZW pushed all the other phones not the best. I say **** verizon and all of us should not sign with them again unless we HAVE to. And admittedly, 2011 was not a good year for HTC, they had a lot of screw-up phones, (Evo 3D, Amaze, Vivid, Rezound, Rhyme)
[HTC Rezound] Divine_Madcat:
Indeed; i imagine we can partly blame HTC for the marketing actually. This phone should have been the Incredible HD.. it even has the same lines as the original Inc (which i still own, and carry for GPS use). I think that kind of marketing alone would have been a big boost (everyone on VZ knows about the Inc).

But no doubt, VZ was paid well by Moto to feature the Razr as much as they did (but there was that marketing again.. people know and love the Razr line). Its funny though.. when buying my Rez, the sales agent advised openly against the Nexus (horrible radio) and Razr (nasty screen). If only more had done that..
[HTC Rezound] *Madmoose*:
Doesn't matter if you're talking about phones, carriers or services...the grass always appears to be greener.

There's no way in hell I would leave Verizon. I've tried them all in the past...I've found my greenest pastures.
[HTC Rezound] SirSigma:
I was under the impression that the Evo 3D turned out okay, since it had a lot of the devs from the OG Evo backing it (Fresh, Synergy, etc.)

The Evo LTE looks like another must-have phone. It has everything I want except that it's on Sprint. Why does god damn Sprint get the closest to perfect iteration of the One X lineup? Sprint has the absolute worst coverage of any provider where I live, and I really don't think they're going to follow through with their empty promises of LTE coverage considering they screwed up WiMAX coverage early on. I can't just get a nearly perfect phone like the Evo again (coverage was awful on it), it seems like there's always one thing or another wrong when I look around at other choices.

I like the Rezound and its wonderful hardware, but the development is pretty stagnant and there's little variety left.

Do I want the One X? No SD slot is a huge deal breaker for me.

Do I want the Evo 4G LTE? It's on Sprint, a provider I went through the trouble of switching from to Verizon for better coverage, and even then the battery isn't removable.

Do I want the Nexus? I don't really care for AOSP ICS or the specs. Plus, it's from Samsung, and Samsung is outside my comfort zone since I love HTC's hardware. Oh, and still no SD card slot.

Do I want the Galaxy SIII? Again, it's from Samsung, and since it's new I'm not willing to take another chance on whether or not it does well like I did with the Rezound. Plus, I really don't like TouchWiz at all. Give me Sense anyday.

EDIT: Oh, almost forgot the Incredible 4G LTE. Inferior hardware and smaller screen make me want to stay away from it, even if it does have native Sense 4.0 on it.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
Yeah, one time I had to get my rezound warranty swapped and i asked for a nexus, and the guy said the rezound is actually a better phone
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
It is a better phone, in a vacuum. Unfortunately dev supports and Jelly Bean matter a lot.
[HTC Rezound] Divine_Madcat:
"dev supports and Jelly Bean matter a lot**"

**: To SOME. My wife enjoys her unrooted, GB sporting Rez daily, and hasn't even thought of a community. The same can be said for most purchasers of this phone (and most of the phones really).

And to me, JB isn't as important as getting a solid, stable ROM. JB would be nice, but given how good Sense4 is on ICS, i can be patient.
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
How is your wife's experience relevant to a bunch of crackflashing enthusiasts?
[HTC Rezound] Divine_Madcat:
i was pointing out that you cannot shoehorn everyone into that statement.. myself included.

As long as I have a good Sense4 build, i don't really care about JB for my Rez. I like S4 more than stock ICS/JB (in terms of looks), hence your statement doesnt fit everyone.. just saying. ;)
[HTC Rezound] jimbo.levy:
I still don't get why VZW didn't market this device more. It sports the best S3 CPU, it has one of the highest quality screens on any device at the moment (when it was released, it was THE BEST SCREEN) and it came shipped with Beats headphones.

It makes no sense for it to be somewhat neglected, and yet it was. The RAZR is no match for the Rezound (apart from the extended battery in the MAXX - our extended battery remedies that though).

And now they're about to release the Inc 4G. Apart from the CPU/GPU, it seems like somewhat of a downgrade from this device...
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
I'm with you on this one, Sense is SO smooth on the Rezound and it looks great. It's also nice to be able to install "skins" as APKs, makes "theming" great.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
When you ran CM7 on the evo 4G for six months and CM7 on the thunderbolt for six months, you miss aosp.

Yes sense 4 is nice, and I do like it, but there are so many features of Cyanogenmod that I miss.
[HTC Rezound] badogg:
Yeah, I fired up my old Dinc 1 the other day that is running CM7 and I had forgotten how freakin smooth and quick the thing was with CM7. Everything was almost instantaneous.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
Yeah it really is crazy smooth.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
I remember those days.
[HTC Rezound] rsage:
If you want some great insights into the the whole mobile manufacturer/carrier debacle, you gotta check out this article:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/5/31...re-the-biggest-threat-to-innovation-editorial

Warning: it starts off talking about the iPhone but quickly gets into Android, WebOS, etc. Some really interesting stuff, esp. on how the carriers and manufacturers interact. It's easy to see how something like the Rezound could happen - good hardware, no marketing/carrier support, etc. Actually HTC comes out on the short end on a couple fronts in this article...
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
That is very true. I only have the Rezound because I am not an idiot that falls for the crap that VZW employees say. The lady wanted me to get the Razr Maxx so bad, that after I told her for the millionth time I want the rezound, she was a jerk to me when we were checking out.

The rezound was the unsung hero of VZW's android phones.

If vzw advertised the rezound as much as the Maxx, we would have a great dev community because there would be so many rezound owners.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
I wish the government would regulate the carriers, it's actually needed.
[HTC Rezound] badogg:
You know, I'm not usually one to want the government to be involved with much of anything due to the fact that they are REALLY creative about screwing things up. But this might not actually be a bad idea.
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
Well, when the government steps in, things almost always turn for the worst. And, that's capitalism. If you don't like VZW, go to at&t or if you don't want a big carrier, go for cricket.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Well the only problem here, is that carriers get "specialty" phones and then if you want that phone you have to have that carrier.

Only phones where this will be different are the iPhone and GSIII.

All carriers should have the same phones. We would have a higher chance of getting updates as there wouldn't be 4+ different versions of a phone, and 4+ different updates to make.

Carriers would then HAVE to make sure they had good prices and good offerings to bring in customers.

Also then the carriers wouldnt be able to install bloat out the ass. They also wouldn't be able to reject updates for months. You have three carriers approve the update, and one doesnt, then you'll have the carriers hold each other accountable.
[HTC Rezound] badogg:
Great points man, really!
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
I said the government for once needs to step in period. All carriers are guilty of nickel and diming horribly.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
It's ridiculous something needs to happen
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
yeah, firebomb their headquarters. that ought to get their attention.
[HTC Rezound] punman:
I love this phone, I run Nils' ROMs because they're as close to unbloated stock as you can get. Not super flashy themed, or heavily modded, it just WORKS and that's important to me.

I'll be on this phone until next july, when I can get another 2 year upgrade, whether there are devs around or not.
[HTC Rezound] kingpin003:
The carriers spend too much and lobby too hard to prevent this. What you're describing is their ultimate fear. They don't want to be the "dumb pipe" because that places them in a battle for the lowest price. If you can get HOT NEW PHONE on any carrier you want, there's nothing keeping you from leaving to somewhere cheaper. As it is now, if you want a Droid Razr you must choose Verizon. And there's plenty of people who will switch carriers for a phone. They see the commercials, and have to have it. So they'll pay whatever Verizon wants.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Yeah that is the problem though. Carriers are scared to actually compete. Service and pricing would be so much better.
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
I mean if ATT had service like Verizon does I'd be on their network in a heartbeat. But from my experience with the carriers. Verizon is King... It sure would be nice to have an open GSM phone lol..
[HTC Rezound] kingpin003:
I agree. Like I said, it's only because they spend so much fighting change. You only have to look at how hard Verizon's pushing back on net neutrality to see how badly they want total control.
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
it is probably the most game changing thing anyone has ever seen for the rezound....BAMF now has 2 rezounds so eris is working on it anyways u guys will have to wait for BAMF to "MIND BLOW" you all lol
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Please post 1 thing of proof that i kanged lol.....newt accused me of kanging by looking at my changelog...if anything he kanged me im no longer listed in his changelog for my animation fix or gallery fix...thats kanging...also sergio and coredroid team that newts now using the tweaks app is also jan's..jan has posted screenshots of comparisons of the code and theyre basically all the same besides "suite tools" string..xda decided to rule against his report to remove sergio because they do not like his sharing policy....
[HTC Rezound] bluetooth_decay:
Looking forward to it :)

---------- Post added at 09:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:15 PM ----------

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/5/31...re-the-biggest-threat-to-innovation-editorial
[HTC Rezound] rsage:
I posted this two pages back, this is the article we're all commenting on ;)
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
I'm guessing that won't be posted on xda, right?
[HTC Rezound] Reaper0294:
Eris has a rezound?? They say he's the man who can port anything...
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
Anything and everything. I expect an ios beta on my desk Monday :3
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
maybe we can finally get touchwiz :D
[HTC Rezound] SirSigma:
Wow, he's that good?

I didn't know who he was, but considering it looks like he's going to get a Rezound soon, I think I am going to stay with this phone after all. Earlier today I was pondering to myself whether I should switch back to Sprint after all to get the Evo 4G LTE (mostly after my co-worker let me see hers in person; that hardware is really nice), but I think I can stay here after all. Sprint's signal sucks anyway.
[HTC Rezound] Reaper0294:
That's giving him a vacation day :P But yes, I've heard very good things about eris.

Best thing I've heard in a while that he's getting one. Makes me much happier for our future :D
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
NRGZ may be getting one too. And he's an elite dev (not knocking Eric or anything) but maybe he can work some crazy magic too
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Yeah he is really good. I may not like him as a person, but he is one hell of a developer. So far there hasn't been anything over seen him fail at.
[HTC Rezound] bluetooth_decay:
Sorry. Tapatalk isn't the fastest thing to motor through threads with, so I tend to skip towards the end.
[HTC Rezound] ericsignals:
Joelz posted on bamf today:

"guess theres some good news and bad news good news for you guys is that im keeping my rezound....bad news is that im not exactly sure how long it will take me to update this rom so we'll see"

Also nils is still rocking out roms, possibly a sense 4 Rom, who mike d is working on a rom, bored may come back one day....and there's a few new devs that have popped up lately...add that with whatever bamf is working on........lots of stuff going on, people just need to breath a bit....it will be ok. Just need to have some faith.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
man
[HTC Rezound] Watercycle:
the best part about the rezound has to be how solid it is =)

the only downfall is the battery life.

4.8" super amoled HD would be awesome, but otherwise I can't really see any performance improvements (in application not what the specifications chart says), only a different set of features.

unless the newer phones offer 12MP or up on the camera, that will make me hop ship haha
[HTC Rezound] ericsignals:
Wrong post...deleted
[HTC Rezound] wlmeng11:
ewwww iOS
[HTC Rezound] BBEgo:
Nils is keeping the community alive and well. Keep the faith. This phone ain't going down without a fight.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
Maybe we can get halfcab123 to get us Aosp. Sure it will only cost 49.95, plus 24.95 mandatory warranty, and 19.99 Internet delivery fee, along with a 14.98 noob annoyance fee.

What do you think halfcab123, think you can kang us some Aosp?
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
EPIC
[HTC Rezound] tigerton:
You are a rude dude. He was offering a great service and people started to look down on something they could haven't thought off. Now rude people like you have to make light of what occurred. If we were all friendly to him, of course he would have given us AOSP, and he would have done a great job on it. After all he is one of the Kings of XDA!
[HTC Rezound] superchilpil:
You would think if he was a king of XDA we would of heard of him before, I've been here for years
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
HA I think this a joke? Right? He's charging like $100 to root and install cleanrom. My dog could probably do that. It's cheap and bad business. It's like the poeple on.craiglist who charge to jailbreak iPhones. It's the simplest thing but they charge way too much. As for getting us AOSP I doubt he could make a sense Rom let alone crack the ril for us... smh...
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
You're a nothing but a troll, the android community is all about helping n00bs out for FREE and stop calling him the king of xda. Anyone could do what hes doing who researched for an hour.
[HTC Rezound] chrisjz:
Please tell me your kidding? He couldn't even use his own rom, what makes you think he could give us anything?
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Hes joking, he called the dude king of XDA lol

ReZound
[HTC Rezound] tbaker077:
Hard to tell if it's a joke seeing he/she/they were defending the guy last night rabidly.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
Rooting and installing a ROM is a 5 min process, anyone who pays $100 and gets screwed deserves it if they don't wanna research.
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
ehh id say more 15 minutes depending on if you have the files downloaded before you start
[HTC Rezound] tbaker077:
took med 30 minutes to get S-off, but that was partially cause I searching for the right paper clips to get it to work, and then eating a sandwich the girl form the club made me.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
good lord. Is markus back or something??? Bottom line, is illegal or not, what he did was immoral and is being dealt with by mods here and by devs in general.

p.s. good lord!!! Now there are ads on my post reply screen!!! Come on XDA... :rolleyes:
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
Interesting...

Someone asking for money to S-OFF, root a phone and install a ROM = Fraudulent a-hole.

Someone asking for a GNEX to develop for the Rezound, says he has no time to develop anymore, and produces ROMs for the GNEX = XDA Hero.
[HTC Rezound] wlmeng11:
Read the thread about how they bricked someone's phone.

Sent from my Clean ROM DE 1.4 Rezound
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
ur late i said i was back lol
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
That wasn't the point I was trying to make

Joel, I always liked your work, I donated a couple of times to you, and if you produce another ROM for the Rezound, I'll eat my words!
[HTC Rezound] SynisterWolf:
:highfive:
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
i shall make u eat ur words then :)
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
My Nandroid is done, I'm ready to eat!
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
but its still cooking lol i doubt u want raw food
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
Haha, I don't like sushi so I'll wait for it to be cooked then. I must have missed your post about being back cause I didn't see anything.
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
i said it on TeamBAMF.net im working on it right now worked a little yesterday until JB Source came out now im working again
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
Ah yeah, just found it, I was mostly keeping an eye open for the Tonked ROM
[HTC Rezound] rileyd5:
To stay on topic, I'm recovering nicely. Keeping my rezound. I think I'm gonna make it. thanks.

btw, this was supposed to be an attempt at humor. lol.
[HTC Rezound] tigerton:
Again, no we can't recover since we are a bunch of anti-developemntalists. We pretty much told a nice guy to eat and egg, because we were jealous of his skills, and the fantastic idea he came up with to help Android users to get top notch service. And because peoples actions we lost a friendly developer... You anti-Rezoundists and Ant-Developer supportists should be a shamed of yourselves.
[HTC Rezound] NickTheMajin:
Oh give it a rest. The guy was a scammer end of story. Don't bring it up in every thread.
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
Go away
[HTC Rezound] JeramyEggs:
What did he develop? If we are anti development, wouldn't he had to develop something? I know I should stop feeding the trolls, but it feels so good... We have nothing to recover from. This kind of stuff happens in all the forums. Old dev's leave, and new dev's take their place. We will miss them, but it happens. Thanks to all of the people who shared their genius in the past, present,and future.
[HTC Rezound] chrisjz:
Best post in this thread.
[HTC Rezound] tigerton:
You feel the trolls, because you get hungry and you have to eat or you starve to death? Just a guess.

So mature here. I have as much right being here as you do.
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
He developed nothing. Stole/used others work to make money. I repeat myself. Go away
[HTC Rezound] SynisterWolf:
Who are we talking about?

Sent from my iPhone...
[HTC Rezound] JeramyEggs:
Hey sinister, check out the halfcab thread if you want filled in, and tiger, if you have to pay someone to root your phone, it is kinda like paying someone for sex. If you can't figure a way to do it without money, maybe you shouldn't be doing it. ;)
[HTC Rezound] SynisterWolf:
best analogy ever!

:good: :good: :good: :good: :good: :good: :good: :good: :good: :good:
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Now I feel bad I paid your mom and sister last night. :rolleyes:
[HTC Rezound] JeramyEggs:
Really, because my mom is like 60, and looks 80, and my sister is like 220 at 5'4". You got robbed as bad as tiger.:D
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
that dude needs to stop saying "eat an egg."

seriously.
[HTC Rezound] tigerton:
He never stole anything, all he did was point people to xda to download the file and he did all the work from. He would tell them what needs to be done, then with remote connection he would setup their phone.

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Why should I lower the quality of my words because some anti-developers/haters have an issue with it.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
we're not anti-developers. this guy isn't a developer.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
I'm going to install this cold air intake on this persons car for a fee. Hey I must be a car manufacturer!
[HTC Rezound] JeramyEggs:
Doesn't your post imply that because he installs others roms remotely, that doesn't make him a developer? I am confused?
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
If you lower the quality of your words as you say you'll be down to grunts and pointing
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Lol right. I honestly don't care about whatever happened but I see this junk in like half the threads I'm subscribed to. I see him defending whoever for doing whatever and saying people are jealous(of nothing) of what some guy decided to do and he comes across as a 6 year old trying to type for the first time, nothing makes any sense lol. It's quite funny but now it's annoying to see everywhere.
[HTC Rezound] LunaticSerenade:
Regarding the topic at hand, I'd say we are recovering nicely. Chad is making progress on his ICS kernel, Nils put out a Sensr 4 ROM, apparentlu rric/Team BAMF is working on something, and Joelz is back.

I'd say we're good.

Sent from my Business ICS Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
Someone was charging for rooting??

I've been in the new evo threads I'm lost
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
jerk. you better come back, boy.