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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AlexDeGruven:
Nothing matters if you want to use a Sprint phone on Verizon. If the ESN isn't in Verizon's database, it simply won't activate. Period.

Unless you're going to start treading down proverbial dark alleyways and looking at things like ESN spoofing, which is both dangerous and illegal, you have to leave it at that.

Verizon won't activate a phone that's not already on their list.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] disco_y2k:
i have to 100% disagree with you on the issue of keeping the old cheaper data plan, there is nothing illegal going on really. if you use the old data plan on the new phone that has 4G, guess what, 4G will not work, but the services you were using and paying for on the old phone will. so you would be getting the same exact service you had on the old phone.

this situation is ESPECIALLY important to me AND ALOT OF PEOPLE where I am. They wanted us to pay the extra 4G extortion fee or whatever they try to force on you. after much, much, much complaining, and then much more complaining by many local people i learned a couple of things...

1. YOU DO NOT WHAT SO EVER HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR DATA PLAN IF YOU DO NOT USE 4G!!!!!!!

2. AN HONEST REP WILL TELL YOU THAT CORPORATE MAKES THEM LIE TO PEOPLE AND SAY IF THEY WANT A NEW PHONE THEY NEED TO PAY EXTRA PER MONTH.

hope that helps,

cheers,

disco
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Brazzz:
So is this possible or not? I am currently in the same situation I have a SPH-l710 (Sprints S3) and I would like for it to work on the Verizon network. Without selling this phone and purchasing Verizons version. Looks like there was a bunch of bickering on the legality and what not and it got off topic. Is this a better question to be asked on Sprints section?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alquistador:
What uses more battery 3g or wifi?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S34Qu4K3:
3g
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
First off, this isn't a flame/finger-pointing thread. I am legitimately concerned about the future development for this phone. I LOVE this phone, but it hurts me to see all of the nonsensical drama and never ending bickering that goes on in every GD thread ever created on this site. It's actually quite incredible. Speaking of incredible, that was my last android phone and that forum is still kicking. Quite impressively actually. Rezound development has hit a slow patch for multiple reasons, such as source and slow updates etc. Which is totally understandable and I'm willing to be patient because I know it will be worth the wait, BUT what really bothers me is the amount of talent that has already jumped ship for whatever reasin. Will we be able to recover a few months down the road or has this phones reputation been tarnished for good?

Discuss.
[HTC Rezound] LunaticSerenade:
I suspect when source drops, several of the heavy weights will roll in. If not, I'm sure someone will step up and take a swing at it.

Sent from my evolving Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
I would hope that is the case, but the drama that has taken place for the past 6 months could drive folks away. I think one thing we have going for us is price drops.
[HTC Rezound] destro158:
I think you're confusing the reasons for slow development with a bad reputation for the phone owners. I haven't seen our bad reputation actually slow any development. Perhaps there are devs that would be willing to work on the Rezound if not for its owners always bickering, but I sure haven't heard about any. And out of the devs who have left, I think Protekk might be the only one who did so because of our reputation (and let's not get into the can of worms of whether or not he ever actually developed for the Rezound). If you look at the rest, they left for unsurprising reasons: better phones or phones that are easier to develop for (or personal reasons, like bored). I can only hope that we pick up devs as source is released and things get easier, but I suspect one of the things that keeps a phone development going strong is a large user base. I doubt that the Rezound shared the popularity of the original Incredible, or the popularity that the Nexus/SGS3/One X currently have.
[HTC Rezound] Shadow Samurai:
This same problem is with the amaze!

Sent from my Energized HTC Amaze!
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
Good points. Basically, I just lose hope everytime something happens like what happened last night with joelz threads.
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
sadly, i dont think so. we lost 95% of our devs. mostly due to asshattery and all around dumbasses who hate, troll and ruin the experience for anyone else. this community is broken right now and i dont know if we would ever be able to put the pieces back together....
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
Well, at least we aren't the only ones

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asshatery. I like that one lol
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
yeah it was either that or douchebagery but i think that ones too mainstream :hipster: (<----totally need a smiley for that)
[HTC Rezound] destro158:
Not trying to incite anything, but what developers did we lose to people being stupid?
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
not necessarily being stupid but just ALL the STUPID dev fights...

lets see who we lost.

joel is preoccupied with school

bored is dealing with problems irl

newt went to mikmik

zone went to mikmik

scott got a one x

that leaves

con and meadows who got gnex's but still promise dev work

nils who is great

siul who does gsm stuff.

raptor who released a rom yesterday

slim

not to mention all of the people who jumped ship for the gnex (soon to be me too)
[HTC Rezound] destro158:
Okay, so your list isn't much different than what I had in my head. And although there has been some ridiculous fighting (including among devs) in the past, I believe that none of those who have actually left the Rezound did so because of the fighting. As messed up as our community may be, I still maintain it hasn't chased anybody off. Now it may not be welcoming people in either, but I'd imagine the main barrier to entry is the fact that the Rezound is an 8 month old phone with a small user base.
[HTC Rezound] rileyd5:
I'm not worried about it. Frankly there is a disconnect with developers and users. Expectations are high from both sides these days whether it be wanting updates frequently or asking for donations only to move on to greener pastures. I think everyone just needs to take a step back and relax. If you feel slighted, sorry but there is no guarantees and realize this is not work, nor is it the real world. Donations are supposed to be tokens of appreciation with no strings attached but hopefully the Devs reciprocate with new stuff. Take what we have a enjoy it. Support our current crew and hope for the best.

We have updated releases from Con, Nils, Slimrom, etc etc... We also still have roms here that are aged but work perfectly well like CR 4.5 or DE Edition, Joelz 2.1 ICS rom or even GB roms from Chingy and Scott. We also have several emerging developers that should be supported. I apologize if I missed anyone but I think everyone should be supported including our talented themers like MikeD and Zhp Pilot for example. We have fully functioning and stable GB and ICS releases that have been improved from the OTAs. Sure we don't have JB yet. But we have a device with an excellent camera that is reasonably up to date. I would get a Nexus as well if I felt compelled to do so, but probably would be unhappy when I took a picture on the outdated 5 mp camera that sucks imho. In other words, we all value different things and have opinions but the one thing we should all agree on is this bickering needs to end. Maybe if this forum becomes a little more user friendly, more people will come forward and even come back to contribute. Sorry for the long response.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
Don't forget the ROM in my sig that is one of the most awesome ROMs I have ever run on ANY phone.
[HTC Rezound] DertyDOH:
I don't think so, pretty much all the main devs have left to the Nexus now that JellyBean has come out and a lot of users are going there too. Most devs will be done with the Rezound before source ever comes out and I don't see them coming back. And with the Incredible 4g coming out very soon I see the left over devs and users making their way towards that, and the Rezound fading into the sunset
[HTC Rezound] Morpheus991:
I'm an optimistic pessimist ... Basically I expect the worst but hope for the best. Actually, just a few days ago I decided to see if anything had gone on with my old Eris and found out cm7 recently came out running gb. I feel like the Rezound and Eris have a lot in common (not hardware wise! I just mean not ever really being pushed by vz, etc). So, yeah, sh*tty for now, but fine in the long run.I've been wanting to get into developing so maybe this is my time to shine! (Or not ;) )
[HTC Rezound] Piaband:
The bickering was mostly a product of one immature dev in our community. Joelz complained about others Kanging his work, all while Kanging the exact people in return. He then began promising release dates and completely missing them multiple times. Noone needs ETAs but dont go posting them and then not even come close to making the deadline. He claimed a new release on between the 14-21 of Jun. Its obviously much after that and no release.

He is a child still in highschool and it reflects in his actions on here.

The small bickering is on most every forum.
[HTC Rezound] rileyd5:
Knew I forgot one. Lol. Agreed.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Don't forget erishasnobattery. Probably would have had aosp had he stayed. He left because of both the community and because of the developers. He posted a nasty thread on rootz slamming our devs. I personally lost all respect for him after that post.
[HTC Rezound] evilstewie23:
Not going to get into this but check out his last 3 pages in his pkmn thread with his new release and ill give you a link to his newest one that is basically stock sense 4 with mms bug and no tweaks so you can see he didn't rip anyone off and was trying to still dev while going to school this summer.

Edit: June Beta rom with no tweaks Description: Viper-rez_Beta

depositfiles.com	http://multiupload.biz/df_6q0za7xd57te

rapidshare.com	http://multiupload.biz/rs_6q0za7xd57te

uploading.com	http://multiupload.biz/up_6q0za7xd57te

uploaded.to	http://multiupload.biz/ul_6q0za7xd57te

bitshare.com	http://multiupload.biz/bs_6q0za7xd57te

share-online.biz	http://multiupload.biz/so_6q0za7xd57te

asfile.com	http://multiupload.biz/as_6q0za7xd57te

I used multiupload so which ever site you trust more go right ahead and download.

This is also his most stable from late may that he never released do to a rebase

Chameleon Rom: http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/Rezound_Developers/Joel/.private
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
This just reassured me that this phone wont come back, just like our country currently.

He is talking about the halfcab Guy. Someone apparently hacked his server and shut it down.
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
I think he is making that up, at least I'm not aware of anything he did for us. I think I've seen him say that like 10 times but I don't think he ever answers anyone when they ask what he's talking about.

Lol seriously? his bad... :rolleyes:

And 650 month isn't worth any amount if time or frustration if it's not all profit...
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
Your *****ing that the a hole who charged for root got shut down?
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
He didn't even get shut down (unfortunately)
[HTC Rezound] tbaker077:
New video up for all the haters. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zPnR8RkcghI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc4C_KitqPA&feature=related
[HTC Rezound] ruvort:
Lol for serious??

MyColorScreen
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
Crook
[HTC Rezound] iaRIVR:
From what I hear it sounds like devs get bombarded with questions, so if there was a service that handled questions and tech support for the "how do I install this Rom" question for people that don't want to read through forums, it might not be a bad business model.

Especially if it means devs can spend more time deving and less time responding.
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
Your kidding me. Your advertising for this guy? You should be banned for this post
[HTC Rezound] JeramyEggs:
WELL, Tigerton

And in closing......
[HTC Rezound] YZ:
OP, from the beginning, you should know that this thread would never stay on-topic. No matter how hard I try, stuff go off-topic.

The rezound forum may have lost some devs, from different reasons I don't want to tell. But there is a fact everyone needs to realize; A forum will never have infinite devs working on a device. It's not even the devs job to work on the device and release it on XDA. They do it because they want to. If the dev moves onto a new device, they move onto it... We can not bash the dev and call him a traitor because he moved on, it's his choice.

Some of you guys are really nice and try and try to help the community, but there are (and always will be) people that think that devs are their puppies and if they donate some money, the devs must do whatever they want (fix this, fix that). That is not how XDA works.

I always asked, and I still do, if there are people that destroys a dev thread with stupid posts and flaming, report, report and report. Don't participate in the conversation. Just let me step in and END it.

I don't need no donation, but I'm your puppies ;) If you report, I must handle it. Because I love XDA and the community. That's why I'm here.

To the people complaining about devs leaving, go look at some android how-to's. It's not easy to build a ROM in the beginning, but with the help of google, nothing is impossible!

Come on, I made it.. so every one can do it.

Even though I hate doing this, some of you will get warned, and some of you will receive an infraction. Sad to see old users braking the rules..

Thread closed.

Have a nice day,

YZ.
[HTC Rezound] chrisjz:
I hope we can recover. I'm done with Verizon once my contract ends, because of this share plan. I'm done adding lines to upgrade early. I need this phone to last.
[HTC Rezound] kzoodroid:
A lot of the devs you mention in this post were also devs for the Incredible and left when the Rezound came out. However most were not the original devs for the Inc but took over when the first set of devs left for other devices. And all the same bickering occured over there as well as the acusations that it drove all the devs away. To tell you the truth I don't care, if they want to leave fine just spare me the drama and go, the forum's not going to fall apart because your gone. There always seems to be someone to step up to fill the void. And I guess you could say the same thing happened in the Eris forum which by the way still has a strong communuty 3 years later.

Myself I'm so over flashing ROMs, 3 years on and I don't find it exciting any more and have been sticking to stock, as long as the device can be rooted that is all I care about anymore. One other thing I'd like to add is that I took the time to learn how to do mods and build ROMs myself, mostly kangs for personal use. I even setup a linux box to start building from source then one day just lost interest. I had better things to do with my time. Life goes on and there are a more important things to worry about than a phone.
[HTC Rezound] GreenXSniper:
Personally I'm looking ino getting a Gnex. I've been here with the rezound since the day it came out, but all the devs leaving has really turned me off to it. If we don't get some major things kicking here before july 26 (My birthday) then im going to pull the trigger on a gnex off of swappa. I Still respect this community as it has been my home for over 8 months.
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
Small world my birthdays the 26th too and I think that's exactly what I'm going to do too
[HTC Rezound] reggie cheeks:
I wish I could leave but I love this phone too much.. I'm blown away by the "drama", that stuff is terribly entertaining to me (I don't have kids so its always fun to spend a little time with em).. these devs, all of them, are rock stars to me, whether its this device they work on or others, I don't care as long as they keep rocking. "Can we recover?" Tough question but I agree with those who assume others will fill the void.

How about, whoever is disappointed about the amount of development, learn, create and release a Rom:)
[HTC Rezound] Divine_Madcat:
There is no reason why not. Even the nook, at well more than a year in age, with far weaker hardware still has great devs.. people just need to calm down, breath a deep breath, and realize we are not dead yet..
[HTC Rezound] tonictonic:
What I've been seeing isn't so much dev vs community but more like dev vs dev fights, and ex-rezound owners vs rezound community, as they are turning into annoying trolls who can't seem to move on to their respective forums.
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Don't forget about Chad and chingy. Both put out great work
[HTC Rezound] GreenXSniper:
No way lol birthday bros, now whenever I see you on xda I will feel a connection :P
[HTC Rezound] giant22000:
I bought a rezound without doing my homework first because the specs on the phone are impressive. Needless to say that was a month ago and now I have a gnex as well.

As an outsider looking in (I say outsider because I didn't really get involved much in the rez community) it seems that the ones complaining/trolling the most, are the ones that contributed the least.

Sad fate for arguably one of the best phones on the market...
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
Wait you got a nexus lulz what happened to waiting?
[HTC Rezound] WasabiWa83:
That's it. I'm taking my shopping cart and getting the hell out of here.

lol, not really. I'm here to stay :D
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Probably not. So much troll in such a short of amount of time. We were a close tight knit community... Add the ****tard trolls in and this is what we get. But I will still be visiting this forum in the hope it does recover.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Idk.. I ended up just pulling the trigger on Newts releases. Whatever drama follows him or whatever he still puts roms out that work for me. So I'm not even worried about the community anymore.

ReZound
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
I did yesterday. Runs pretty good actually
[HTC Rezound] Divine_Madcat:
It runs very well. Everything working but HDMI.. no reason not to try it..
[HTC Rezound] SirSigma:
Yeah, I've been using Newt's for several weeks already. zhp pilot puts out quite a few nice cosmetic mods for it that you can find in the apps and themes section. He's quite good at maintaining them for newest versions, too.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
So a few of us former Rezound owners come here and still try to socialize while answering questions asked to us, and we're trolls? Childish.
[HTC Rezound] GreenXSniper:
Oh lol my kindle fire shows up as a nexus cause of the rom im running on it lol
[HTC Rezound] superchilpil:
Eris is getting a rezound so I think we will recover :)
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
Ohhhh reallllyyyy.....That's awaome news
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
Wait really?
[HTC Rezound] superchilpil:
Yea, a guy is getting a new phone so he's donating it to eris. Apparently sometime next week
[HTC Rezound] LunaticSerenade:
I don't think those comments were directed at you bro. :D

Sent from my evolving Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] jdfrye:
I stop in here and read but I dont post here anymore since everytime I do I get some snide remark about what I posted. So I post over at AC. The feeling here is the 12-23yrs. Now let the snide remarks begin.....
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
I thought Eris already had a Rezound back in like November/December and decided to get a Nexus or something...??? Am I mistaken??
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
I'm 14 but I try not to get involved in anything

He did but he's willing to give it another shot I think
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
If new Devs don't move in to fill the vacuum... then Rezound Dev is going to be mostly dead.

If Eris gets a Rezound and some others fill in the space, then it shouldn't be too bad. And we really need source to help get AOSP working, that will help a lot.
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
Eris is a beast. I ran his first Rom for this phone for a while. It was smooth and everything worked. Really nice for a first release. I actually have it in one of my slots in boot manager.
[HTC Rezound] Bradh024:
I'm not sure if u guys remember, but we lost eris within the first month. Fortunately, he's willing to come back. We can't **** this up.
[HTC Rezound] superchilpil:
Quite simply he will not come back to xda as far as I know, you must find him. I don't blame him. There is less bull**** there
[HTC Rezound] Bradh024:
You really can't blame the man leaving xda, this forum has turned to nothing but bullsh*t. Hopefully he can revive development. I'm not sure about anyone else, but I'm stuck with this phone until July of next year.
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
If your talking about Eris he left because of the developers. He even wrote a huge thread on rootz about it.

He didn't like the way development was being done, he thought a lot of the stuff con did was risky, he through a fit at dsb for the mainver stuff.

Instead of providing a better solution he just got mad.

He may be a good developer, but if he is going to have a crappy attitude himself...
[HTC Rezound] Bradh024:
I'm just gonna leave this one alone...
[HTC Rezound] Superm@π:
Let's just see what happens and not talk $hit even if you have a reason. Let's give give him a chance. We have NOTHING to lose.
[HTC Rezound] cstrife999:
Guys in all seriousness threads like these are the reason for the drama. Most of the devs have just decided to put their roms elsewhere so follow them there. I know I did. Sure we don't have the activity that the Galaxy Nexus does, but we never would have anyways. Be happy with what we have. Honestly I am probably getting my nexus back anyways cause we got 4g LTE in our area and I myself miss the screen size and plain ol ICS, but I also will miss some sense elements so I will hold onto both.

I've been here for awhile and have been hacking my android phones since the original droid on Verizon. I have been through many forums here and I gotta say you all do it to yourselves. Rootz has its drama sure, but nothing like this. We were all sad on the Bionic boards when Tho3ry left. But nothing like this. These threads accomplish nothing.
[HTC Rezound] trickster2369:
Running newts xxx for the last few days and it is a solid Rom. Wondering, though, why his thread is locked over on the other site. Any insight?
[HTC Rezound] cstrife999:
From what I understand it's due to the off topic chatter.
[HTC Rezound] Bradh024:
Exactly, leave it alone, let the development live on without the bull****.
[HTC Rezound] MikeG7265:
I think you're right. The thread had so much off topic chat that they created a chit chat thread. The original is locked, but he still posts the updates in it.

I can usually find what I need here, but like some others have said, I don't post much because you never know how people are gonna react or respond. I do appreciate the level of knowledge here, but like everyone else, I can live without the drama.
[HTC Rezound] con247:
Lol wtf did I do?
[HTC Rezound] zkrp5108:
I honestly want to learn so badly. I've been greatly looking into it. I just need help with it. I don't quite understand all the terminology, nor really know where to start but I am so interested and really eager to try and learn.
[HTC Rezound] cstrife999:
Probably like the rest of us your major mistake was being born :laugh:
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
He slammed you for your s-on kernel ph98img packeger.

He said you were a. Making it harder for people because they would possibly have mainver errors.

B. That you by not making people fast boot flash every kernel make it harder for people to understand how to fix issues they had.

I have to say those two things were not big issues. What happened? Someone figuired out how to fix the mainver issue. I honestly forget who? Was that you con or someone else.
[HTC Rezound] WookieFan:
There are quite a few threads on Android ROM cooking. Start with those and learn as you go. Just go to the xda-developers main page and look around.