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[Transformer TF300T General] Clienterror:
I copied my other post to give you my opinion on the TF300 VS TF700.

IMO it isn't substantial enough. Ok bear with me here, the new TF700 looks pretty cool and all but I see a few potential problems with it in the future.

Ok when Apple went from the ipad 2 to ipad 3 and the way higher res screen they knew the needed to have a CRAZY overkill GPU because not only did the ipad need to run current high demand games but also games in the future. Egypt screen off tests show how insane overkill the GPU is vs any other platform, but with the screen on benches obviously it drops a ton due to that resolution.

Here's one possible problem. You've upgraded the resolution on the TF700 but done nothing to the GPU to support the insane amount of extra pixels you've just added (and the CPU isn't even a MAJOR upgrade by any definition). So now games in the possible future may run like crap because you need to run it at such a high res without the CPU/GPU to back it.

A possible example of this is already happening is with the Acer A700, they put that 1900x1200 screen on it but have just the standard 1.3 Tegra 3 in it and it is having some serious gaming issues on games currently out. Now the only other difference between the TF700 and A700 is the TF700 is using DDR3 ram (Which I've yet to see any bench on any tablet that showed DDR3 having any major performance benefits) and the TF700 is running at a faster CPU speed (Same GPU speed). I'm not sure if the A700 problem is a software issue or the Tegra 3 simply can't drive the 1080p screen for intense 3d games but if the only difference between a game running smooth and choppy is 300mhz from the CPU then I see the TF700 having gaming issues very soon.

Also you have to remember there are almost no (Possibly no) apps that take advantage of that high of a res yet and by the time they start to be out in any number you'll probably be buying a new tablet with an 8 core CPU. But I have to admit text does look really nice on the TF700 screen.

That's just my personal feelings on it, I hope the TF700 doesn't run into the issue above but there is a reason Apple put that insane GPU in the ipad 3 and the TF700 isn't enough of an upgrade IMO. The extra battery time and IPS+ is pretty sweet but I just see that 1080P screen as a possible handicap in the near future.
[Transformer TF300T General] adrhodes:
Eh... not worth it.

It is like double the price for some little features I don't care too much about.

My next tablet will probably be an expensive windows 8 one with like i5 processor lol...
[Transformer TF300T General] dxwilliams40:
Not worth it to me. The tegra 3 is a disappointment to me. My tegra 2 A500 was just as smooth. I won't let the marketing hype get me again. Don't get me wrong, I love my 300, but if I would have had a 101 I probably would not have upgraded.
[Transformer TF300T General] humdrum2009:
Lots of valid points I looked at the iPad today and was blown away by the screen. Tablets are coming so fast it's too much to keep up.

Honestly I haven't turned it on this week.

Got the GS 3 too busy playing with it.
[Transformer TF300T General] das0527:
Yes, I'm also within my 30-day window so I'll be returning my TF300.

Then I'll bounce off the walls for a week till I can pick up my TF700 on the morning of July 16th!
[Transformer TF300T General] IUH1991:
I was waiting for the tf700 for the longest time, until I realized that I could get the tf300+dock and a new phone for the same price. So, I picked up the 300 on Tuesday and f***ing love it!
[Transformer TF300T General] rushless:
I will wait until there is a more robust gpu to support 1920x1200. The 300 is IMO a better fit for the Tegra's gpu. Especially for game emulators like N64, PSX and MAME Reloaded.

Another nice thing about the 300 is the touch response is as good as my iPad 3.

Now, if I did not play game emus and not had an iPad 3, I would probably switch.
[Transformer TF300T General] oniell121:
I'm in the same camp. I just bought my tf300 and I have found it to handle everything I want very well so far. I can't see myself upgrading in the near future. I don't have the cash anyway. Haha.
[Transformer TF300T General] ajamils:
I had the Prime since launch and recently decided to sell it to purchase TF700 but after waiting for it to release for sometime I started looking at TF300 and luckily I got a great deal on Tf300 + dock from a fellow XDA member, which I received today and so far I like it a lot more than Prime (except for the lack of brightness). So for now I'm going to cancel my preorder and enjoy TF300 while I wait for a newer model that is significantly different from Prime/TF300/TF700 to justify an upgrade.
[Transformer TF300T General] nooktablet:
what about me? i don't have a tablet yet and i want one, but should i wait for the tf700 or buy the tf300, i can buy it on amazon for $384 (tablet only)?

can you guys give me some advices, please?
[Transformer TF300T General] ajamils:
Unless you REALLY want a high resolution screen, I do not think that TF700 is worth the extra money, specially since TF300 works great for everything.
[Transformer TF300T General] funnel71:
I concur with the last post. This is enough to run all I throw at it very well.
[Transformer TF300T General] skr_xd:
Plus one..
[Transformer TF300T General] nooktablet:
what about the gorilla glass 2, i heard you don't need a screen protector if the device has gorrilla glass, and does this mean the tf300 is easy to get scratch,

i usually don't use my finger to "touch" the screen but sometimes i accidentally do, should i worry about this or just buy a screen protector?
[Transformer TF300T General] Admiral2145:
I never used a device without a screen protector... And is the gorilla glass 2 worth a extra 150 dollars? Let alone the tegra 3 isn't powerful enough for 1200p...it needs a more powerful cpu/gpu... And when we get 4.1 on the TF300.... Game over.
[Transformer TF300T General] moisaal:
If you plan on purchasing a dock for the tf300 then forget about the screen protector because it wont fit. I absolutely love my transformer 300 even though it doesn't have gorilla glass. I've been using the tablet for months now for gaming, typing emails., etcetera and I have yet to scratch the glass. ( just buy a simple case and take care of your equipment and you wont have any problems.

just because it's not gorilla glass does not mean ur fingernail will scratch the tablets surface, it's a lot tougher than u would think. Just don't drop it. Forget the 700series and the next Gen ipad. I have the latter but I wouldn't give this up for anything. it's the best tablet on the market (for the price) imo.
[Transformer TF300T General] DeerChaser:
My samsung phones had Gorilla glass, all broken. It's still glass no matter how you crack it.
[Transformer TF300T General] humdrum2009:
Still on the fence my office is brighter than the sun.

Those fluorescent lights make the tf300 hard to see.

If the tf700 is brighter wonder if it will be better or worse under those lights.
[Transformer TF300T General] ajamils:
That's not true. I'm using Moko Screen Protector and I have absolutely no issue using the dock with it.
[Transformer TF300T General] robgee789:
im more than happy with the tf300 and im not sure the tf700 would be much quicker with all those extra pixels to handle and ive heard that heat might play a part on it (ive only been able to get my tf300 to 32 degrees and that was hard to do lol) but i would say if you got the time wait untill your avaerage joe gets one and gives review on it,

but my situation is im sticking with my 300 as it rocks
[Transformer TF300T General] Admiral2145:
It's ips+ is brighter but, at the cost of battery life.....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dafoxs:
I'm getting FC when using any rom that has the ics camera with it. Just asking, can I copy my old original camera apk into the new ROM and re flash it? Would it work?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] jayRokk:
Give it a try and see if it works out

Worse case scenario is a bunch of FCs so keep a nand ready or be ready to flash another rom.

Make sure its same firmware and same type of rom ...of its a TW rom only use a camera from another TW rom.. same goes for CM9, AOKP, Paranoid
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dafoxs:
Before doing all that, it smacked me in the head. I'm running Smart Stay, guess both cameras can't be on at the same time. Turned of smart stay and ics camera works.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] Imtiaz369:
I am trying many time trying to install creeds 3.5

it install successfully but phn nt start

i m now back creed 3.2

Somebody say,flash dxlc1 and then try

but why need to flash
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] thirdzcee:
Are you on a custom kernel??? Creeds 3.5 need stock kernel to boot

sent from my GT-S5360 Xpresshatred on Repencis 3.5
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] anasdcool71:
I too had this prblm. Mount system in CWM and then flash the zip file.

Sent from heaven!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] Imtiaz369:
When i try to mount system .it already mounted

and i am use stock karnel

plz say me detail
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] thirdzcee:
Did you do wipe data and cache ?

sent from my GT-S5360 Xpresshatred on Repencis 3.5
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] Imtiaz369:
yah!i do
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] thirdzcee:
Well in that case i cant find anything else wrong except probably your firmware version. Try flashing dxlc1 thats what im on and it worked flawlessly on me

Edit : but before that try wiping dalvik as well. If still not working then flash dxlc1

sent from my GT-S5360 Xpresshatred on Repencis 3.5
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] MaestroCharan:
:p thought its 'Creeds problem' . . .instead its only 'Creeds Rom's prblm' :P :D :D
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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trevormc:
Hi all,

I know that if someone want's the look and especially the super fast reaction speed of an Ipad, then one should buy an Ipad..

But I love my 10.1, and prefer android any day of the week..

My questions are:

Why is an Ipad so much faster at reacting to what you are making it do (virtually instant), than a Galaxy tab?

And, is there anything I can do to make it react at this super fast rate?

I have done the following to try achieve this:

Rooted it

Installed SetCPU to boost the idle speed a bit to 608Mhz

Installed ADW.

I am running a startup manager to limit the startup apps.

Short of installing a new ROM, and overclocking the daylights of it, is there anything that can be done?

Kind regards,

Trevor
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Panos_dm:
Obviously there is some mistake here. The DEFAULT speed of the tab is 1000mhz. 608 is serious underclocking...;) Now if you overclock and install adw, there is not much else you can do. Try a different rom as well and wait for official ics as we all do...

Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patriciocs:
Actually I think he is talking about the idle clock freq and not the max clock. The idle clock for our tab is 200MHz I think, so our friend raised that to 608. Well, I don't think that will help to anything but draining your battery faster :(

On other hand I have the same question. My brother in law have an iPad 2 and the new iPad. I really hate that closed OS, but I must admit that the responsiveness of both iPads is far better than my loved 10.1, even after installing CM9. I suspect that there is something in the hardware that doesn't allow our tab to provide a quicker response.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muzzy996:
Actually it helps responsiveness a lot. As the CPU ramps up from 216mhz at idle it seems to stumble. Agree though it's at the expense of battery life so gains are minimal once that's factored in.

Personally I run setcpu profiles and have mine setup such that at battery level higher than 75% I push up the idle clock speed a notch or two. Once below that threshold I drop it down to stock. When being charged I push idle speed to 608 like OP does and max CPU to 1400. Helps responsiveness noticably. At these settings though the tab's just trickle charging when in use so if set that way during charging and the battery is low don't expect it to charge much during use.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slack04:
It's been asked and answered 1000 times, but... why not.

First: the ipad (and ipad 2) have lower resolution screens that display icons in a grid, and a clock. There's nothing more than that. All of it is cached for near-instant retrieval: The launcher interface is loaded at all times. Android tablets have a higher resolution screen (more pixels to account for) and the icons have a great deal of functionality, including widgets. These can be cached only to a certain degree, but if you want things to update, you need to keep them dynamic. So, there's reason #1 the ipad launcher is "faster." (The ipad 3 is the same; the newer hardware makes up for the higher resolution screen).

Second: The ipad is a tightly controlled (sandbox) system. That means that the system does not expect anything but specific gestures and touches; in fact it has no way (absent a jailbreak) to add new ways of interacting with the device. Android has a completely different framework that allows devs to come up with anything they want. It's like comparing a set of legos to a machine that one could use to build legos with. You sacrifice simplicity (and consequently speed) for the sake of comprehensive customizability.

Third: ipads are premium devices. They are expensive even though each model (of which there are only a few) is produced in much larger numbers than any individual android device. This is a pretty big deal, honestly: you only need one set of engineers, one set of programmers, and one set of administrators (even though you'll have multiple working groups of each) to create these devices. And apple employs lots. Compare that to android devices: sure, google has a lot of people working software, but once the product is finished, it's handed over to a completely different set of folks at the OEMs who "customize" (read: touchwiz-ify) it. Efficient? Not compared to the tight ship they have at Apple. But to get back to the original point: ipads are expensive even though Apple is (potentially) a much more efficient producer. They use top-quality components and have world-class engineers and software designers all working on one device. Compare that to what Samsung can do (and still turn a profit).

I'm not a fan of apple (I prefer customizability), but think this through and you'll understand why the "reaction speed" is better on an ipad.

One last thing: Ask yourself why you got a tablet. Did you get it for the launcher interface? And if you got an ipad, would the smooth user interface make your experience better, even at the cost of widgets? It's a trade-off.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trevormc:
Firstly, thank you to Step666 for moving my post to the correct section, I appreciate it.

Thank you slack04 for your detailed response. It has answered my question rather well..

However..

I would prefer it if you would refrain from the attitude about my "inane question". I did some fair searching on the subject, and found no suitable answer.

If one existed as you so subtly put "It's been asked and answered 1000 times, but... why not." then why did you simply not add a link to one of the "thousands" of suitable answers, and save yourself the trouble? But thank you none the less.

Muzzy 996, I agree, I have also found that the idle speed a 200Mhz is stumbly, and much prefer it's responsiveness at 608Mhz.

P.S. I do have ADW EX launcher.. And yes, it is very good and much better than the stock launcher.

I guess all that's left to do is install a custom ROM and overclock if I want more speed.

Regards

T
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sharky444:
JB solves a large part of the problem, as it ramps the devices to max speed on touch.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pixy132:
Saw this thread randomly, but as I've been using an iPad and an android phone for the past couple years, here's my two cents.

Android is more suitable as a phone os, on the tablet side iPad is just better. Think of what you would use a tablet for. Mostly web surfing, maybe doing some word processing or file editing, watching pictures, reading documents and sometimes play a bit of games. Any of this is fully achievable on an iPad and it's not like it is less capable than any android tablet. Plus since it has less thing for u to play with, my experience is that you can focus on what you're doing instead of playing the device doing nothing productive (sorry if that's a bit blunt :p).

Just my piece of advice, for phone, use android, for tablet, I would prefer an iPad.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patriciocs:
Thanks slack04 for your answer, pretty detailed. I was not complaining about my tab responsiveness, I was just curious about the slower responsiveness compared with the iPad.

Well, I think you got the point in your post. I chose my GT over the iPad, even the 'new' iPad and after trying the iPad2, the new iPad and my tab. To me, feeling that I am free to do what ever I want with my device is invaluable.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slack04:
OK, I deleted my last paragraph. You're right, no need to be a **** about it. But the question has been asked and answered, and honestly, it doesn't take much to figure it out. I'm not a dev or anything remotely close. It also doesn't help that most of the time people "ask" about the differences it's usually just a cover for a troll or a whine. If your purpose was entirely academic, then I suppose your intentions were pure....
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m.r.davies:
i use an iPhone 4 and galaxy 10.1

iOS just works, and doesn't need customizing (personal preference)

However. I use tab for movies and sstreaming TV episodes which the ipad doesn't do or does poorly

I've also been fustrated and annoyed at this issue ans looked into this reaction speed thing.and have just come to the conclusion that an IPAD would be so mmuch better if only I could ccopy movies over directly and streaming flash TV episodes

Its a shame. There is no perfect device

Both are great in different areas

With the move to HTML 5 streaming movies, and the poor support by Samsung etc to role out new versions of aandroid. I'm going for an ipad next .... never thought I'd be one of those types!

My advice,embrace it, it will never react as good as an ipad

They have a closed system to make it this good ....love and hate them for it!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] animatechnica:
actually bottom line is Apple programmed the UI to prioritize the scheduling of UI requests so when your finger touches that screen, it drops everything to service that finger. Not so with Android (4 and below) which only applies normal priority to the request - JB corrects this

so while there are a number of work arounds and hacks to improve it - it will never get to the state that IOS delivers - until JB
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slack04:
I tried to dumb it down a bit and avoid the "so why don't the devs just add this to the ROM" question... But this is another good point and you wrote it much more clearly than I could...
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] -=LT-United=-:
Hello everybody. I want to ask our developers, will we get Android 4.1? If not - why, if yes - when? Thanks for answers :).
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] vishal007:
I m not a developer but i can say we can only get jb frm cm sources

Otherwise it is difficult to port aosp build

If sir maclaw and team successfully make working aosp ics for armv6 we can probabily get jb too ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] mr.faridcom:
+1

Best Regards ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] hsay:
It is hard to get a stable ics as of now it is goin to take minimum 6 to 7 seven months before a bugfree ics and then only we can look forward to jb we muat have patience.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] TheWhisp:
Well, when the sources are out, we'll see about that :)
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] sahilg009:
Patience is a virtue moreover there isn't much difference in user looks

Just a few add ons here and there moreover I doubt about how will this device go on with jb.But anyways well see that expect stable jb for our device by early 2013.Many experimental build will start popping out soon
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] kagamineryuki:
GOOD NEWS !

MACLAW SUCCESS MAKE AOSP WORKING FOR ARM V6 !!!!! :victory:
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] vishal007:
congrats ;)

but its only for gio till now may be ace too but maclaw didnt tell any news for mini/fit aosp

they r saying they dont hav device to work on :crying:
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] kagamineryuki:
owww, that's why maclaw search for volunteer who have galaxy mini

btw thanks for information

sorry for my bad english :(
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] yackovsky:
there won't be fully working ics/jb because no one willing to re-write damn codecs... y'all have fully working cm7, be happy with that, or buy yourself nexus s or one x, which have ics from the start. Peoples! Stop dreaming and expecting wonders from heavily outdated phone! :)
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] domcale:
Maybe the devs will do something, if the rest of the people is willing to wait!
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] TheWhisp:
AOKP build with modified libstagefrighthw.so can play 720p @ ~10 (maybe more) fps, HQ youtube works ( as testers reported ). If AntiBillOS will give permissions camera will be working with 3rd party apps too. :) So... it's not so impossible after all.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] yackovsky:
Ok, so camera will work, but only ON HACKS. That's great, really. How about stability of os? :>
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] speed_bot:
no ways thank god if you get ics for dialy use :cowboy: another cm10 project awaits macclaw
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] yackovsky:
no, cm10 will be android 5.0... jellybean will be cm9.1 or something like that, since jellybean is just an update of ics...
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] speed_bot:
might be if we get a stable ics we can get jelly bean to work..but we need something out of the ordinary
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] TheWhisp:
From latest Marcin comments, GalaxyICS will drop Mini / Fit support.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] kirakun:
yup, i agree with u. The only issue with cm9 (for me at least) is the lack of RAM, i dont care abt the "crappy camera" or "useless" FM.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] goutamniwas:
all devices haing cm9 or aosp ics can run jellybean
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] yackovsky:
ok, but the question is not if they can, because it's obvious that galaxy mini is able to run ics/jb, the question is: can it be runned smoothly on low end phone? and i'm only guessing that the answer is no, because of extremely low specs (compared to other phones nowaday) of galaxy mini :)
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] musashihatred:
:))

+1, i thnk its possible to run ics/jb with any device with the proper sources. but as what everybody else says, hardware limitations. :DDD

and yes, we should stop dreaming of heavenly miracle -_-. better to buy a new phone. :D here, a brandnew mini + its 1/3 price = a nexus s. so its worth it.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] domcale:
That's sad. It's understandable, they don't have the device and development is probably dificult.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] yackovsky:
because it's not worth it :D oh boy, how many crybabies will comment now "whyyyyy! it was working!" hahahahhahaha!
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] speed_bot:
I think they should work for only two devices ace/gio mini/fit one in this two....if they comcentrate on these two devices it can be ported to other one with ease
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] kishore4:
exactly mate, hardware limitation comes once u have ported it already and then the performance is laggy...the problem right now is the proper source...ICS and JB are using different kernel (v3.0) than GB and we basically dont have libs for many hardwares like for camera etc hence we have to use the GB kernel with it and programming in it to make it work with ICS OR JB is kinda difficult so u can easily guess the reason lol ;)