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[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Since you don't seem to carry bias.. What do you like more about it? What about the camera and radios and the screen?

ReZound
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
Thats cause they have source already.
[HTC Rezound] con247:
They have it because they have people who are capable of making it work themselves. You don't need kernel source.
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
Quite true about the talent and the fact that you can build a workable kernel without HTCs source, but I imagine it would be 100 times more difficult to reverse engineer RIL from scratch without any source code at all to reference..
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
Its thinner and sleeker and the lack of carrier branding on the screen makes the front of the device look absolutely gorgeous.

As far as the camera goes, it's much much easier to take a picture that actually looks good with the camera on the Nexus, but by the same token, the Rezound takes better pictures, if I could make them look good..

The Reception is a little worse but its not too bad, and I think the screen suffers from purpling, and gradients dont display properly, but Its hard to notice and I think that my screen is defective (don't think i got scammed, the person I traded with was kinda dumb about tech stuff) but overall, the colors look a lot nicer, more vivid, but its slightly grainy/blurry (part of that is probably due to my matte screen protector tho) The screen is about equal tho in day to day use.

My battery life is horrible, just as bad or worse as the Rezound, I'm going to get it warranty replaced in a few days because of that and the screen stuff, but even then, its really not that bad, if they don't honor my warranty because I traded i would still be 110% happy with my trade, even with the battery and screen.
[HTC Rezound] Easton999GS:
where did you buy the nexus from and for how much?
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
i could really care less about the camera. i took one photo with the rezound and it was to test out the camera....
[HTC Rezound] wlmeng11:
I think I saw CM9 on the Droid Bionic with buggy but working data.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
Some girl who knows nothing about technology on craigslist. And i straight-traded my rezound

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I saw that too. I was wondering why no one mentioned that at all
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
What's your battery life?

I get better screen on time and overall life than my Rezound did.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
I can get about 2 hours screen on time. period. That can last me from between 2 hours to all day depending on how much I use my phone but i always get 2 hrs pretty much no matter what
[HTC Rezound] wlmeng11:
So...

So far the non-Nexus LTE devices with working data on AOSP ICS:

EVO LTE (Although it's Sprint)

Droid Bionic (but buggy)

Any others?

The thunderbolt only has AOSP gingerbread, so doesn't help us.
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
I think that's it.
[HTC Rezound] wlmeng11:
Wow, my Rezound gets 4 hours screen on, though that's only when I under-clock my cpu, turn off data, set screen to lowest brightness, and in other words guard my battery like a control nazi.

But that's 4 hours of screen on time.
[HTC Rezound] pmania:
Doesn't the razr?
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
I always have data on lol maybe i could get more with no data on my rezound i turned off data but i just dont on my nexus. lol. I just expected more since it has a bigger battery and an AMOLED screen. Ill see what happens if i can get it replaced

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Yeah the razr has ril too on ICS forgot about that one
[HTC Rezound] walloftvs:
Yeah, can't you get unofficial CM9 for the Razr?
[HTC Rezound] drbveb88:
Yeah, reception sucked, the camera sucked.. it was $299.99 at one point.

I have to imagine that the S3 development is gonna be off the chain. Just look at the stuff the international devs are producing right now.

As far scratching goes... my friend has had his for nearly a week and doesn't have a single scratch. And he works construction all day long.

There is already a developer who has Jelly Bean uploading on the Galaxy 3 its only a matter of time before its running completely. Everyone complains for more ram, GS3 has 2gb and people are already bashing it.
[HTC Rezound] wlmeng11:
How can a locked bootloader Moto phone have AOSP RIL before us...
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
I had to fight to get to 2 hours screen on with the Rezound but I get to 2+ easy on the Nexus, that's with 3G on constantly and auto brightness.
[HTC Rezound] shnn2011:
Open source all the way.
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
Well, I just posted my Rezound for trade for a GN on craigslist until I get my GS3.

:(
[HTC Rezound] wlmeng11:
I believe MIUI is AOSP based, and we have it with working GSM/CDMA, but no LTE.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1659210

Now I am officially confused.

How did that guy get RIL working?

Edit: Our MIUI is still Sense based. *sigh*
[HTC Rezound] tekhna:
It's still got a pile of Sense framework. It's a hybrid, not AOSP.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
It's running on Sense framework I believe and CDMA still has issues so it's unsupported.

You'll have to add cash, the Rezound's value is crap generally. I got lucky, used an upgrade on my family's account and paid the price by selling my Rezound and having the buyer meet me at Best Buy as I bought the Nexus.
[HTC Rezound] con247:
That one is sense based.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Thanks for your honesty, feels like you just genuinely prefer it.

I hate when people shout about superiority but don't have reasoning. The other guy said gnex is way better than the rezzy. I'm like how? Can't be specs. And he's like it just is. I hate that logic.

I'm going down with this ship

ReZound
[HTC Rezound] palmsole:
We get it you prefer the nexus over Rezound. At this point you can stop proselytizing, get off your pulpit and head on over to the nexus world. Or are you looking for confirmation for your choices? :good:
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
droid bionic and razr dont really count. they use 2nd init to work, not really ril fixed xD
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
Yeah me too. I don't use my phone enough to spend money on another one just because I want to see more aftermarket development...

My tablets are way more important to me than my phone. As long as my phone is still able to tether, thats really all that I care about now.

So I have my TF101s and a Nexus 7 on its way in a couple weeks.. I'm set. I just can't be spending money to jump ship to another phone. I don't even care enough about the phone to bother. I'll have this Rezound til its no longer a viable device for daily use...
[HTC Rezound] Superm@π:
Why do we keep talking about the fu@%ing nexus on the rezound forums? I take it that nexus owners won't be happy until the rezound forum is 100% fu@&ed.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
I already have headed over there.

I don't need confirmation of my choices, I knew the first day I made the right move, at one point, I was overjoyed with the Rezound but things change, you can't sit there and bash me because I've realized I've been missing out with the Nexus series when it comes to more pure Android development and having owned both phones, I can fairly tell people the pros and cons of each with no bias, what do I care if someone else switches phones.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
The thing is, there are two distinctly different kinds of users.

If you are a "flashaholic" and think it's fun to do nothing but swap ROMs 10 times a day then of course the nexus is the best choice.

I have flashed at least as many ROMS as most posters here and I flash until I find the perfect setup and then I leave it for months at a time.

For users like me, the Rezound with it's superior hardware/awesome high def screen/ excellent camera etc is a far superior choice to the gnex. I had a gnex for a few weeks and absolutely hated it.

My current Rezound setup is lightning fast, runs weeks at a time without rebooting, has never thrown an FC once and IMHO is still the best quality VZ phone you can buy.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
You can have a Nexus and not be a flashaholic, There's still plenty of variety.

I've flashed through the JB leaks, CM9, and now I'm on Liquid, it's doing me fantastic battery so I'll stay here for a bit unless something else peaks my interest, I stick with whatever works best for me.

Superior hardware/awesome high def screen/excellent camera is all subjective to opinion,

Rezound has better camera IMO, Screen and hardware are a toss up IMO.

Opinion is everything when comparing phones that are similar unless it's obvious like single core to dual core, etc.
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
IM A FREAKING FLASHAHOLIC. ineeeeeeeed a nexus :( i flash 3 roms today.... i have a HUGE problems. thinking of starting a FA (flashers anonymous)
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
Or pentile screen to anything else lol
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
Even that's partially opinionated, I don't get the hatred for pentile displays, it's been at least a year since I've seen a mid range-high range phone that had a bad display,
[HTC Rezound] DertyDOH:
I actually just ordered a nexus as well, but plan on keeping both, its my answer to aosp, I've given up hope of that on the Rezound, so nexus when I want aosp and Rezound when I want sense
[HTC Rezound] hazardc:
I've been considering trading someone i know my rezound for their nexus.... i'm just sick of not being able to do much with this phone (which is an AMAZING phone).. but this was my first upgrade since the D1. The already anemic developer base is still steadily eroding on the rezound. it sucks so bad because i actually like everything about the phone hardware wise better than the nexus (other than hardkeys vs softkeys)

I just want to be able to be on the newest version of android with all the bells and whistles of a pure google experience. it sucks that HTC gives this stupid pointless dev unlock but wont give us what we actually need to make the phone live up to it's full potential. Every day that goes by seems like less and less of a chance of getting the RIL, less and less chance of any type of aosp or cm9 development while phones a year older or more are running 4.1 already.

The radios on the nexus do scare me (i get furious at data drops), and i love the rezound camera... it's a hard choice.
[HTC Rezound] B-Mod:
If you get data drops on a Rezound, good luck with a Gnex, the radios suck. I tried two phone both would drop signal for hours a Rezound sitting next to the gnex never had a glitch......
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
Yea they really do suck.

When I had my gnex, I NEVER ONCE got a 4g connection where I work.

With any of my rezounds my signal is 4g 95% of the time where I work.
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Yea its silly how much something so simple can mess everything up so much. I have a few friends that have them and they get drops for no reason at all even on JB. 3G or 4G it doesn't matter. And their download speeds aren't as good when we do side by side. The guys that have them don't use them like half the time though so I guess it doesn't bother them too much. It's bad when you work for a cell company that isn't Verizon and get Verizon service and a nexus lol..
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
In my room the rezound shows a signal connection of -89dBm on 4G. On the gnex it was -120dBm if I could even keep signal. Also, oddly, my thunderbolt running CM7 was -82dBm.

All three phones tested within mins of each other at the same spot.

I plan on getting the gs3 and if the signal strength sucks, it is going right back.
[HTC Rezound] Fergusonfox7:
I straight traded my rezound for a mint gnex on swappa.
[HTC Rezound] Land Master:
What a pleasure this thread has been to read. No (well at least minimal) bickering, heartfelt opinions, good information and best of all honest discussion.

Con... you are a great developer and a fine gentleman. Always quick to answer questions and hardly ever snarky. Can you help with a main version error. Lol.

I personally went through two nexuses. As has been pointed out and in my experience... the radios SUCK. Couldn't keep 4g in the same exact area as my wife's Razr and the Rezound is even better than hers. Once 4g would drop off the handshake back to 3g would sometimes take 30 seconds or more. Sometimes it even required tuning data off and back on. In my time with that device which honestly was only about 14 days I tried flashing several different radios and nothing helped. I believe it is hardware related but perhaps the newer releases have fixed this. It wasn't the first Samsung device to give me the same type of fits so I'm not holding my breath. Simply put... I pray that the next Google device is manufactured by another vendor or I will more than likely pass. Yes... development is a dream and the device is as open as a two bit street walker but with dropped calls, poor voice quality and flakey, data it was a non starter for me.

In closing... I really hope you have a better experience Mr. Con but something tells me we will see you back. Best of luck my friend.
[HTC Rezound] rusty4k:
I hope samsung gives you bettter support ( update ) wise than they do their tablets. Wanna hear disgruntled check out those forums.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
Maybe I got lucky, my signal is always great.
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
For the Nexus the updates don't come from Samsung.
[HTC Rezound] quepaso:
Signal is garbage on the nexus, my brother and i went to the boonies and i had signal 20 minutes before he did once we neared civilization. I also saw some people saying they got 2 hours screen on time with their rezounds, i have to say, you own/owned defective rezounds. I get 4+ hours EVERY SINGLE DAY on my rezound with stock battery, im running nils 5.4 rom. I know i get that much because i use the living crap out of my phone at work, after 4 hours i have 25% or so left. The nexus in comparison is a joke, 2 hours or so of screen time is the norm. I think its due to the phone constantly trying to get signal and destroying the battery.

After extensive use of both phones, i just wish the nexus had better hardware, its just too awful compared to the rezound.
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Clearly in your eyes people's screen times should be the same! Who needs to take what people do with their phone in comparison. Your using the "living crap" out of your phone could be light usage in my eyes. I can steam Netflix via 4G full brightness and easily get 3 to 3 1/2 hours on the stock battery. Yes the Rezound is nice, but at the end of the day it's just another HTC phone. The Nexus is on Jelly Bean while the Rezound is stuck on ICS leaks. OTA ICS for the Rezound has still yet to be seen. Devs are dropping left and right because of this and the massive trolling. I have no signal issues with my Nexus, your brothers could be defective. I used to look down on the Nexus a bit until after I used it for awhile. I forgot how great AOSP is after using manutacturer skinned crap for so long.
[HTC Rezound] narta:
I like how you are in the Rez forums trying to convince yourself that you did the right choice. If you are happy with your choice go enjoy your phone and leave us be with our ****ty HTC phone.

Btw, how is that battery life with the white wallpaper? :p
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
All I know is I'm never getting rid of my rezound lol I'm keeping both and will switch back and forth as I please...since I can never upgrade again on Verizon, all of my phones will be off contract...so yeah lol
[HTC Rezound] Dsoto87:
I don't get why rezound owners are so defensive. Every single current nexus owner in this thread owned a rez recently. We are only coming in here to give our opinion on both phones.

This is a great thread if you're a current rezound owner thinking of switching but it seems a few rez owners must defend it like they're on HTCs payroll.

I'm not going to go over why I prefer the nexus again but ill reiterate. Yes, the radios are not as good but I always have a 4G signal and never had a dropped call/missed text. This is in the SF bay area so YMMV.
[HTC Rezound] SirSigma:
The only real things stopping me from jumping ship to the Nexus are

The Nexus doesn't have an SD card slot. I paid a lot for my 64GB micro SD and I can store my entire music collection on it with confidence. I'm not going to get a phone that doesn't use such a basic feature.

I only feel really comfortable with HTC as an Android OEM, especially since my experience with the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and that TouchWiz interface/hardware design. That just isn't the same. Adding to that, I really don't like stuff like Samsung Kies being required for me to connect it to my PC. Don't know if the Nexus has that, but my GT10.1 had to connect to my PC and be recognized as a "portable device". I love how HTC has always had it right, with just connecting your phone and detecting the SD card like any other mass storage device.

I actually really like Sense 4. I used to prefer AOSP on my HTC Evo 4G and jump around between Cyanogen, MIUI, and other ROMs until I finally settled on FreshROM, which was just a Sense ROM with a few nice tweaks and changes. I used v6 Supercharger on it and often found myself insanely good battery life on a 2000mAh battery.

I prefer Sense over AOSP for sure after using FreshROM again because I realized how much less I needed in terms of third party apps to fulfill some basic functions on my phone. I no longer need to find good calendar widgets when HTC's are the best. No longer need to find another music player since HTC's integrates with the lock screen the best, etc.

JellyBean is probably really nice now, but I really can't stand the aesthetics of ICS vanilla as a whole. It feels too much like Google tried to take stuff out of Honeycomb and tack it into their flagship phone. JellyBean looks like it only improves a handful of things and really makes it smoother as a whole, but I'm not really all that comfortable with AOSP anymore.

So in short, I don't really want to switch.
[HTC Rezound] Superm@π:
We don't want your opinion on both phones, we would like information that benefits REZOUND owners REZOUND phones. If I want to know about the nexus I will go to their forum. See how that works??
[HTC Rezound] luis86dr:
Jellybean has ruined us. Lol. :eek:

HTC Rezound
[HTC Rezound] narta:
Think it like this: You are a Ferrari owner and a guy that recently sold his Ferrari and got himself a Lamborgini comes to the Ferrari Owners Club and goes on saying that his new toy gets better 0-60 for about .05 secs that his previous car and that the Lambo has better leather quality than his previous Ferrari etc

When the aggravated Ferrari owners start saying that "yeah, but you have less horsepower, worse brakes and your engine reving sounds like a fart" he responds that "I am just laying out the options here guys...."

:p
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Eh... I just switched as well... and I didn't want to from a device perspective...

The Rezound is a better device... Period.

The Nexus has the development though.

But I have two phones, so I will still be here keeping up with developments on the Rezound too.
[HTC Rezound] Dsoto87:
Funny you say that. There's already been someone in this thread who has asked for opinions on the nexus. See how that works?

I think this is the perfect place to look. Why go to the nexus forum to ask about the pros and cons of switching from the rezound when most have never owned it? Here you're getting the direct opinion of those who know both sides of the coin.

If I owned a Ferrari and was thinking about buying a lambo I WOULD ask Ferrari owners if they have any experience with them. I wouldn't go straight to a lambo Site where they're just going to talk it up. Everyone who has posted as a nexus owner has given their honest opinion as to whether they think it's worth it or not. All the while those who have only owned the rezound groan and pout like little kids screaming "my processor is bigger than the yours!". No nexus owner has came here to brag. We've just stated why we switched.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
Some of you are getting defensive and being so defensive is a sign of doubt.

Obviously someone like me, Con, Ze, etc can give you opposing viewpoints from each phone but some of you bashing a phone you've never owned probably because of you're trying to be the home team against the "away team" is foolish, at least that's what it sounds like is going on.

So when people are asking about opinions of the Nexus, instead of bias people answering who've never owner both phones, let the people who have owned both answer. We have no reason to play favorites.

Obviously doesn't apply to everyone.
[HTC Rezound] Superm@π:
No! I'm just tired of you trying to sway people to buy a damn Samsung in the rezound forums. We've had enough problems here without you trying to pull people out by the multitudes. If you still had the rezound would you appreciate it? Not everyone can buy a new phone everytime there's something new out there and I would appreciate it if we can maintain some devs and people who care about improving this phone over here. That okay with you Gnex cheerleader?
[HTC Rezound] dogswind:
It's not about being defensive. It's the fact that we can't read a thread here anymore without the Rezound being directly compared to the nexus. It's really getting old. Those of us who aren't jumping ship couldn't care less about the nexus and how it compares and why you're leaving. It doesn't benefit our forum in the slightest.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
Sway people? If someone asks me, which they have, which phone I would recommend, I'll tell them my honest opinion. It's obvious you don't agree so you refer to me a "Gnex cheerleader" which is laughable at best. I had this phone for almost a good half year and I was here for all its biggest improvements and its biggest failures while helping anyone I can.

You don't have to agree with my opinion but you don't have to throw me under the bus either.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
i own both phones.

i still think the rezound OWNS the nexus on many parts. only thing that i'm digging about the nexus is android 4.1 because of how fast it is. other than that, the screen isn't as good as the rezound whatsoever, the camera sucks, the signal is not as good as the rezound, and so far it seems that the battery life is pretty much identical, despite having an 1800mah battery isntead of the 1620 in the rezound.

i only wanted to get it because i've had HTC since day 1 of my android escapades..wanted to try something different, and i'm enjoying it, but i kept my rezound so i can switch back and forth between them. having 2 phones is better than having 1! :)
[HTC Rezound] Dsoto87:
So ignore the thread. Simple as that. I do still own the rezound and if development picked up I would definitely jump back on the train. The rezound is a solid device. I guess I've just gotten a little tired of sense after using it for several years.
[HTC Rezound] antp121:
i love how no one noticed the big bear grylls meme i put on the page before. seriously guys? stop fighting. they are both good phones.....
[HTC Rezound] dogswind:
This debate creeps into every thread around here these days. I wish the mods were more active and strict. They're probably over it too though. :silly:
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Development and just wanting something different... only reason I switched...

Holding both phones next to each other... I get sad looking at the Nexus compared to the Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] SirSigma:
I agree with you on both of them being good phones, but I absolutely do not get the meme on the last page. All I can tell is it's some kind of Advice Dog spinoff meme (like half the new ones we get anymore) and that I don't get the punchline at all.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
bear drinks his own pee. that's the meme. in every meme it's like "trapped in an elevator for 10 minutes...better drink my own pee"

lol
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
I want $20

Better drink my own pee

(This actually happened to me let me say don't try it)
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
You drank your own pee for $20??
[HTC Rezound] ijustwantmydock:
Yeah not a lot maybe 3oz and I almost threw up I spent half the money on drinks and food so I could get the taste out of my mouth