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[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
I would choose almost any other solution to lying to a device about it's capabilities.

You really can't know all of the ramifications.

Keep looking for overrides for tablet mode if that is what you want.

In the same vein, don't change DPI to make fonts bigger. There are accessibility options for that.
[Nexus 7 General] Glod:
Ramifications?
[Nexus 7 General] adiliyo:
There are no major ramifications to spoofing dpi aside from a few apps acting wonky.
[Nexus 7 General] lazaro17:
Right. Its nothing new...people been have been changing their dpi's on their galaxy nexus for quite some while now.

What I'm most interested in would be a rom like paranoid android running on nexus 7. I always thought my phones screen was too small for that ROM but a 7" tablet will be perfect. You get to choose which apps stay in phone mode and which go into tablet mode.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 7 General] TjPhysicist:
youtube

Can someone open up the youtube app with full tablet and tell me if the new youtube UI shows up, or if it is the old "3d UI". More importantly, try "play <name of a song>" (in google now/voice actions) and tell it to open in youtube, and tell me if it works. I tried this with Jb+GNexus and it would basically go back to the old youtube app (logcat says: honeycomb.youtube) and thus the new command would not open up songs/vids on youtube from google voice actions.
[Nexus 7 General] adiliyo:
This will probably be the only from I will flash on my nexus, multi dpi on it will be perfect for this form factor
[Nexus 7 General] fishingfon:
Is someone going to make the comparison video and screen shots??. As I really want to see that lol

Corey
[Nexus 7 General] masterofmayhem:
Someone has offered to do it, but it hasn't been done yet. I think this is something many of us would like to see.
[Nexus 7 General] saadi703:
I doesn't take much time and effort to do that. Had I have it available with me I would have done it myself.
[Nexus 7 General] SS2006:
can you make it Tablet UI without changing the DPI, i dont want to change the native size, or 'resolution' of the tab
[Nexus 7 General] adiliyo:
Afaik the only way to have pics/jb kick into tablet mode is via dpi.
[Nexus 7 General] akfelipe:
bump this bad boy to first!:victory:

this is def nice to know!
[Nexus 7 General] tikiral:
At 160 and 170 DPI I lose Movies and Books from the Play Store. Anyone else see this happening? TIA.
[Nexus 7 General] moore808:
You have to use LCD Modder to install the hacked market.
[Nexus 7 General] e.mote:
>Afaik the only way to have pics/jb kick into tablet mode is via dpi.

It's not DPI (dots-per-inch), which is a physical measure and can't be changed. Android uses an abstracted measure called "DP" (density-independent pixel), to allow for some standardization of all the varying screen sizes and densities.

N7 has a 216 DPI; it uses TVDPI (213 DP). Its effective resolution OOB is 600x961.

Android had four generalized densities: LDPI (120), MDPI (160), HDPI (240), and XHDPI (320). Android 3.2 added a 5th density setting, TVDPI (213). TVDPI was intended for 720p TV (XHDPI was intended for 1080p TV), but was found to fit hi-res 7" devices. If you mod the density, use a standard setting, as apps target these for layout and bitmaps.

To calculate resolution in DP:

resolution / density * 160 = DP

800 / 213 * 160 = 600 dp

1280 / 213 * 160 = 961 dp

So N7's effective (DP) resolution is 600x961, using the official 213DP density. For native resolution, use 160DP density. Then you'd effectively have a 10" tablet shrunk to a 7", which won't be optimal for all cases.

More here,

http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html

http://developer.android.com/about/versions/android-3.2.html

Diane Hackborn has a write-up on G+ about the N7's particular display settings, along with the reasons behind its hybrid tablet/phone UI. Check it out for further insights.

https://plus.google.com/10505198573...FGLV8#105051985738280261832/posts/6eWwQvFGLV8
[Nexus 7 General] johninsf:
After reading a good portion of this thread I have decided to just try what Google sends then assess whether a tablet UI is absolutely required. At that point maybe Nova Launcher or Apex will suffice.

Thanks though for the extensive discussion and details here.

Sent from my Nook Tablet
[Nexus 7 General] wes_s:
The threshold is 177. Setting the TVDPI in the build.prop to 178 reverts it back to the original UI.

Here are some screnies of the different settings i've tried.

160:

170:

175:

and 177:
[Nexus 7 General] Harrysoon:
Well that sealed the deal for me buying a Nexus 7 at the end of the month :)
[Nexus 7 General] masterofmayhem:
Would it be possible to see that same homescreen when your N7 is set to the stock 213 dpi?
[Nexus 7 General] dailydR1ver:
Video I found on Youtube of the N7 in tablet UI.

[YOUTUBE]Ak0QzrTt0b4[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak0QzrTt0b4
[Nexus 7 General] wes_s:
My N7 looks like pretty much every other N7 at stock DPI but:

I couldn't get exactly the same shot without reverting back to all the stock wallpaper settings etc but here is the same widget.

---------- Post added at 08:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:41 AM ----------

Yep, thats mine too.

On an interesting side note, when in tablet mode the lockscreen doesn't support landscape mode. It sticks in portrait and you can see the tablet rotating after unlocking.
[Nexus 7 General] masterofmayhem:
Thanks! But, it looks like the screenshot didn't attach to the post correctly. The same widgets is what i was looking for. I wanted to compare the text in each of the DPI settings.
[Nexus 7 General] wes_s:
Like this?
[Nexus 7 General] TheHEFTA:
This may be a stupid question, but when I've done this on my One X certain apps stop working,things like youtube etc, or apps become incompatible on the app store but as soon as I put it back to default they start working.

No issues like this so far on the Nexus?
[Nexus 7 General] wes_s:
Yeah stuff becomes "incompatible" on the app store meaning I cant update/install certain apps. But the ones that I have installed already seem to run fine.
[Nexus 7 General] youngproguru:
I just gave the prop a tweak to the Nexus 7 DPI of 213. I received the new UI (Phone Like) but I lost the soft buttons. Time to re-flash on connect a bluetooth keyboard.
[Nexus 7 General] iwantanandroid:
I read somewhere that if you uninstall the play store then reinstall it the apps will be compatible again....can someone test this out?
[Nexus 7 General] Glod:
oh wow, i really screwed up, i tried that lcd density modder app before looking into this post. N7 isnt booting correctly now..just blank screen. oh well...time to learn how to undo stupid
[Nexus 7 General] dzap:
Did you figure this out yet? I just did the same stupid thing, and I simply thought boot into recovery..can't boot into recovery. ****. I can get into fastboot and reflash the recovery, but it won't boot the recovery..so..I don't know what to do now.

EDIT: 2nd time's a charm. Did it again and it booted into recovery. Phew. Had a small heart attack that I might have soft bricked it.

EDIT3: Okay tried to change build.prop back to 213 with adb pull/push. Nothing. Did a factory reset. Nothing. I feel like I have to reflash the ROM now? :(

EDIT4: Ended up reflashing everything through fastboot with the Stock factory images from Google. Ridiculous that LCD Modder caused this much trouble. DO. NOT. USE.
[Nexus 7 General] flub:
I did exactly the same :rolleyes:

Only way I could fix it was flash stock recovery too, glad I aint the only one :p
[Nexus 7 General] loonie01:
Use ROM toolbox. Its safer that way.
[Nexus 7 General] UnknownFearNG:
So is this Tablet UI mod good to do? A few people in this thread say it makes some apps incompatible. I'd love the full tablet experience, but I'd had to sacrifice app compatibility for it. Any word on this?
[Nexus 7 General] theoneofgod:
Works fine. The only app that doesn't seem to work is Amazon.

Here is a screenshot at 160 LCD density.
[Nexus 7 General] UnknownFearNG:
My god that looks beautiful. I can't wait till I get mine :D
[Nexus 7 General] Glod:
Yep i had to do a factory image reset. At least i learned how to return my device to stock :P lol

---------- Post added at 11:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:15 AM ----------

So i got this tablet UI to work by manually editing (as stated before DO NOT use LCD density modder), i tired 160 and 175, 160 gives you more room on home screen but its tiny text; i suggest 175.

It makes things so nice looking compared to the default 2 bars. Also it seems to unlock tablet apps such as Moxier (an exchange client) for tablet. though i havent looked into it too much.

I noticed zero difference in using Chrome, Firefox (side-loaded), or Opera web browsing experiences.

But i noticed some issues!

1. Some Apps crash constantly, Slingbox, Netflix, and Google Drive are Examples (maybe this is JB and not Tablet UI)

2. The Copy/Paste menu doesnt appear anymore (This is a HUGE deal)

3. Yes, its usable but the text does get tiny and if I didnt have good eyesight it would be really hard to see

because of the copy/paste issue i need to revert for now until something can be figured out
[Nexus 7 General] UnknownFearNG:
I was going to do this when I got my tablet, but after hearing this issues, I don't think I'll do it.
[Nexus 7 General] Glod:
If someone could figure out why the copy and paste bar doesnt come up and find a solution then i would use this mode, im back in the "hybrid" default mode and i freaking hate it
[Nexus 7 General] iwantanandroid:
CAN anyone else confirm that copy and paste doesn't work in tablet mode? that seems a little strange that a basic feature like that would not work
[Nexus 7 General] joshtb86:
i used LCD density monitor to try to fix the market after switching the DPI settings, and my device is unusable. as sooon as i boot, everything force closes, nothing runs. ADB cannot connect to the device. it says theres no device connected.

i used toolkit to reflash stock rom, but i cant reset to factrory, so it keeps booting into this terrible set up with nothing working. stock recovery is just the android with the open chest and eclamation.

going through the toolkit, i cannot get the ADB drivers to install and correctly see my tablet.

can anyone offer some help?

much appreciated!
[Nexus 7 General] chubb16:
I use 160 too. Looks good and no market issues.
[Nexus 7 General] iwantanandroid:
Dude does copy and paste work for you?
[Nexus 7 General] Glod:
your going to need to use fastboot -w update "zipfilehere" not adb in bootloader screen

there is a bunch of posts about how to do this on nexus devices but i cant find the best one

the image is located here

https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasi
[Nexus 7 General] Rich_RH:
people that said 160dpi didnt work with C&P, i can only say for me but it works. well at least in Gmail.

I feel like it also effects video... its kinda weird a bit more jaggered or something..
[Nexus 7 General] Glod:
Odd I just tried 160, 170, 175 and I still don't get the copy and paste bar.
[Nexus 7 General] RMXO:
If you want built-in Tablet UI then this ROM is probably the one to try out.

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/28738-05...us-grouper-v101-android-41-jrn84dkernel-3110/

I was created with TabletUI in mind.
[Nexus 7 General] Rich_RH:
Not sure, I'm installing roms and kernels let me see if i can get you a ss.
[Nexus 7 General] jtc276:
I can second not to use LCD Density Modder. It gave me a soft brick which, at this stage in development, was tricky to get out of.
[Nexus 7 General] Rich_RH:
Have you need to try and copy and paste in certain places?

http://imgur.com/HCBCx
[Nexus 7 General] art.vzqz:
Defective Screen?

I've been trying to do this mod for the last couple of hours, but every time I reboot after modifying the build.prop, I end up with a soft brick. I first tried using the Buildprop Editor app, but for some reason, it wasn't editing the file in the /system folder. I then tried copying the build file to /sdcard with Root Explorer, edited it with Notepad++ and moved it back and fixed the permissions. When I rebooted, I get as far as the Google boot screen, then a quick flash of color, the screen stays on (backlit) but blank and the device never finished rebooting. I restored my device back to stock, but after skipping through the initial setup, I started getting some funny colors come up on the screen. I rebooted, and they seemed to go away. I then rerooted, pulled the new build.prop with adb, edited with Notepad++ and pushed it pack to /system. When I rebooted, I was soft bricked again, so I booted into recovery and tried pushing as unmodified backup build.prop back to /system, cleared wiped cache and dalvik and reboot. Still soft bricked. I'm currently pushing a nanroid backup back to my N7 and restore to when I last rooted.

Does anyone have any ideas as to why I can't get this mod to work for me? I had noticed a couple times, before I ever rooted the device, that sometimes the screen would appear to flicker ever so slightly when I was looking at a screen with a lot of white in it, like while viewing Google.com in Chrome. Is it possible that I simply have some defective hardware? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated....

EDIT: Restored stock and rerooted again. This time used ROM Toolbox. All is well. :good:
[Nexus 7 General] bcvictory:
Which option works the best?
[Nexus 7 General] art.vzqz:
The only option that worked for me was ROM Toolbox. You can see my post above and laugh at my failed attempts if you'd like. :o
[Nexus 7 General] flub:
I can concur rom toolbox works fine

I soft bricked mine using one of the other apps on market ( cant remember name)
[Nexus 7 General] Hemidroids:
So how is this ROM working out for people with the Nexus 7?

Any opinions yet?
[Nexus 7 General] UnknownFearNG:
Tried using ROM Toolbox on my GNex for fun. Just wanted to see the features it comes with, and I must say, for an app that's free it's pretty sweet! Currently doing a full backup and then I'm gonna try and flash a new boot animation and see if it works. Will definitely upgrade to the paid version once I receive my Nexus 7!

Anyone confirm no loss of apps when changing the DPI of the Nexus 7 using Rom Toolbox? No issues what so ever?
[Nexus 7 General] RMXO:
It worked out pretty well, it was my daily driver for a while until the small fonts got to me. I have bad eyes so I had to go back to 213 DPI.
[Nexus 7 General] zinfinion:
What I would really like to see is a mod that will:

1) Resize the nav bar to 35dpi (47px) while keeping the notification bar 33px. This will give a usable screen of 800x1200 in portrait.

2) Move the nav bar and dock to the bottom of the screen in landscape (rather than keeping them on the right side of the screen). This would yield a usable screen size of 1280x720 (with the notification bar at the top).

For me, this would be the best mix of Tablet UI and Jelly Bean portrait only UI. So basically, the way ICS worked, but with the notifications moved to the top. And hopefully this can be done without editing the device DPI and causing all sorts of issues.

Edit: Just saw a video of

Nova on an N7

. With this, the nav bar does move from the right to the bottom. The dock says on the right. Not 100% certain how I like that. The notification bar stays at the top as well in landscape. Soo most of my issues seem to be solved by Nova.
[Nexus 7 General] bcvictory:
Did copy and paste work?
[Nexus 7 General] blackhand1001:
I wonder if changing the device name in the build.prop to one of a 10 inch tablet would work. The resolution and LCD density should be identical. Perhaps the tf300.
[Nexus 7 General] mchief298:
Well, I did this little modification. Was happy with it.. Gave it more of a High Resolution feel. I loved it. At least up until I launched words with friends. I don't know why, but everything seemed... washed out. So I went back to the default DPI.
[Nexus 7 General] theoneofgod:
I really don't know how you guys get reboot loops after editing the build.prop. Be careful.
[Nexus 7 General] timekeeper:
Me neither. Straight up edit with ES File Explorer and rebooted. I think it should've been like this in the first place, so much improved. The only thing that is annoying now is how it never hides, whether in movies or games.
[Nexus 7 General] larryvand:
I'm sure Google sure enough will release a Android 4.1.3 OTA that does the portrait/landscape UI switch automatically. All the code is already in the current version. They just need to test it and make sure everything works well in landscape and maybe fix some bugs for the things that have issues. Till then, I'm quite happy with the portrait UI.
[Nexus 7 General] NeoMagus:
No issues editing back and forth using root explorer just hit open with text editor and save and exit when I was done.
[Nexus 7 General] Clienterror:
So if we change the dpi in build.prop we have to uninstall the play store and reinstall to fix it? How do we reinstall it? Flashable zip?
[Nexus 7 General] 1981suede:
I'm getting compatibility errorsin the Play store after modding the DPI. what's the best way to fix this?
[Nexus 7 General] tikiral:
There isn't a way to fix that yet. Basically modding the DPI provides incompatible information to the market so you have to:

A) use a hacked market (like LCD Modder does)

B) spoof the standard DPI to the market

C) spoof a device matching your DPI to the market

With the market issues, I've switched back to 213. I've heard good things about various ROMs, like ParanoidAndroid, that do some automatic switching, so I'm just in the wait-and-see state at the moment.
[Nexus 7 General] 1981suede:
Thanks for that. I've switched back to 213 but I'm still unable to install dropbox for example.

Edit: Fixed it, had to force close the market, clearing cache on its own didn't do the trick.
[Nexus 7 General] mariolouis:
I don't know if it still works on JB but on ICS it is. You use Spare Parts from play store and uncheck compatibility for older apps. Reboot.
[Nexus 7 General] art.vzqz:
Compatibility Errors Fixed?

I think I have eliminated most comparability errors by using a value of 162. I didn't have to clear the cache or data from any app, just rebooted and everything started working nicely. Even swype beta is playing better with it. Loads a whole new interface. I'm loving this mod now!

EDIT: Scratch that. Posted too soon. After another reboot, play shows a lot of compatibly issues again. I am disappoint!

I wonder what happened in between there that made the problems go away for a short time...
[Nexus 7 General] joshtb86:
someone mentioned 160 dpi. i have been using it since, and have had no market compatibility issues.
[Nexus 7 General] Clienterror:
Tried 160 for a while but it made text crazy small.
[Nexus 7 General] theoneofgod:
Increase font size in display settings.
[Nexus 7 General] Clienterror:
Omg you're awesome thanks!!
[Nexus 7 General] brmayhem:
As a Galaxy Nexus owner I've been spoiled and happy to use Paranoid Android everyday.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1619582

Would be pretty sweet to see Mole's work ported over or if maybe he got a N7.
[Nexus 7 General] Dsmforlife92:
any issues at 160 DPI and what are you using to modified DPI
[Nexus 7 General] h3r3tic:
Best way to modify dpi is edit build.prop in /system/ folder. Or use rom toolbox lite.
[Nexus 7 General] thebobp:
What's the max lcd density at which tablet UI will still appear?

Edit: it's between 175 and 179; I'm guessing the latter.
[Nexus 7 General] bustinstugots24:
Just out of curiosity, how in the world did you get the Brooklyn bridge pic in your Google now ??? I live in NY and mine only shows mountains. Did you do anything special to get it or have it pushed over? My location settings are already on. Thanks in advance!
[Nexus 7 General] barrmulio:
it's between 177 and 178

the formula x = screen resolution short side (ours is 1280x800 so use 800) * 160 / 720,

x = 177.78 so 177 will be tablet, 178 will be phablet

and if you're curious, the threshold for true phone mode is just 214

so there is a way to get tablet mode without modifying the lcd density and build prop, but a java edit is needed in framework/base - if you don't know what that means, then hang tight until it's sorted out and devs can use it

i'm recompiling now and need to test before sharing
[Nexus 7 General] Valerianus:
Has anyone tried a DPI size smaller than 160 yet? I tried 160, but wasn't impressed by the small icon size. Plus, I hate how the notifications bar is at the bottom on the tablet UI.
[Nexus 7 General] bsw11:
I do not see this app - I bought LCD Density Moder - is that the one, because when I tried it on my Note it screwed up the market app and I had to restore it.
[Nexus 7 General] neilrl79:
Sweet. I've been waiting to see some movement in this direction, dpi changing seems to be more troublesome then it is worth.
[Nexus 7 General] pharpe:
I used ROM Toolbox to change to 160. Changed font to large. UI looks great and works perfectly. No cut and past problems and market works fine.
[Nexus 7 General] oasis9389:
i recently made the switch after a hours of annoying landcape app exits to portrait launcher. i have to say the device got 200x better for me. absolutely love it in this form. i can't find an issue, copy and paste works, market works. i am loading all my apps and giving it a run through but loving it so far.
[Nexus 7 General] redmonke255:
Did you change to 160?
[Nexus 7 General] oasis9389:
Yup 160. Via root explorer

Don't see any issues.. need me to try something?
[Nexus 7 General] mwalt2:
I just changed to 177 based on barrmulio's post. It looks pretty good with large font. I still see all of my apps and 100's of recommended ones, but I'm not sure where the problems usually crops up. When you guys are at 160, have you found a launcher that makes the app drawer use all of the space? When I was trying it, there was a big gap at the bottom. The gap is much smaller at 177.
[Nexus 7 General] chenghiukin:
Has anyone else noticed that the keyboard is weird after the dpi changed?

My M is a bit too far to the left.
[Nexus 7 General] oasis9389:
at 160 everything is 100% perfect.. i experimented with 170, 177 and they both distort the UI.. 160 is a dream for me.
[Nexus 7 General] mwalt2:
Does your app drawer look normal or do you have a lot of space at the bottom of the screen? I'd rather use 160, but the app drawer looks to funny for me.
[Nexus 7 General] oasis9389:
the app drawer has a little extra space on the bottom b/c the icons are smaller. i wouldn't call that an issue.
[Nexus 7 General] barrmulio:
update to my post on not needing the lcd density change, the adjusted android.policy.jar (compiled from aosp) just stays in the nexus boot screen without looping, when I change back to the original jar then all is well - [in fact the whole rom compiled from aosp isn't booting] ...still working on it

if anyone has been able to build a working rom from aosp with java file edits, please pm me
[Nexus 7 General] SS2006:
Tablet ui without changing DPI is a pure win an what I've been waiting for .good luck. PS would it be in a simple add on form to our stock tablet with root (as the dpi hack is) ,that would be besr ,or would it involve flashing a whole new custom rom
[Nexus 7 General] barrmulio:
shouldn't need a custom rom, it's a simple change to a single java file...i added the details in the development forum, working on trying to compile a working android.policy to flash as a patch zip...
[Nexus 7 General] lawguy:
I played around with different settings but was not happy with any of them. What works best for me is using the Modaco Rom, which has a landscape mode for the launcher. Everything is the right size and there is no loss of real estate when playing a movie because the action bar disappears completely as opposed to just fading with the tablet UI.
[Nexus 7 General] anilkuj:
For people who dont want to lose real estate , after changing to TabletUI

install apex launcher ,

change the home screen to 8x8 for both portrait and landscape , keep margins none you can do the same for drawer.

this works best for me and i dont lose any real estate.

this is how my homescreen looks like