yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bucketachicken:
I basically need to decide between these two phones, on Sprint. The pros and cons from my point of view are the following:

Pros

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GNex: better aesthetics (imo), no physical buttons, Nexus device thus great ROMs/Community, no annoying partition scheme for the 32GB

GS3: better specs, larger screen (possibly a con, lol), sdcard slot, potential for great community due to widespread distribution and popularity, better camera, more overall space

Cons

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GNex: no sdcard slot, slower specs

GS3: physical/capacitive buttons, and while it has excitement around it now, who knows if there will be a dev community 6-9 months from now or how long it will take to get ROM updates with new versions of Android (incl. jelly bean) with fully functioning parts, seems to split the 32GB up into 16/16 for apps/media, which I hate, I want it all for whatever I want (or say, 32GB all for apps, then put media on sdcard!)

Other thoughts

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-I do not live in an LTE launch area, and honestly, likely won't for at least 9-12 months if not longer. I have awesome wifi at home/work though so Sprint's crappy 3G is bearable, most of the time.

-I have an EVO 3D now, and finally, as of like a month ago, I have a working ICS rom with camera that is AOSP, but for most of the last 12 months I've had to decide between Sense (which I hate), ICS without features (such as camera/bt), or Gingerbread. I REALLY don't want to end up in that situation again

-I much much much much prefer AOSP roms and will be rooting/flashing the moment anything is available for the GS3 or the moment I get home for the GNex

-I've had various phones (see sig), but my N1 was hands down my favorite phone

I'm sure I'm forgetting something, but I appreciate any thoughts and commentary!

In short, I want the best specs I can get on Sprint, but desperately want an active dev community and plenty of ROMs, and though the GS3 has better specs, it's too early to know for sure about the community months from now, and plus, I like the software buttons and the look of the GNex. I am indecisive :-/

edit: the only real concern I have about the specs is gaming or media playback (via plex)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DevilStrider:
Played with it for 2 hours and I could not deal with the touch wiz crap. Felt like I was on the GS2 all over again. I like my GNexus that I picked up yesterday.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
If you want an aosp device the gnex is the obvious option. Especially with this jelly bean port we have for the sprint nexus its amazing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yeahrite:
I'm not in the US but I have both the GN and SGS3 (i9300) version. Just to let you know the size of the SGS3 isn't that much bigger than the GN. It looks like you are looking for a AOSP experience so I would say you should go with the GN, I loaded JellyBean on it and it is super smooth, but don't get me wrong the SGS3 is a beautiful devices and I'm sure somebody will be porting AOKP or CM9 over to the Sprint version soon as it is already on the i9300.

I hate touchwiz as well so I loaded a custom ROM and used Nova Launcher. Good luck in deciding but you won't regret either device.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bucketachicken:
From the responses from you guys, I am definitely leaning towards the GNex. I have been browsing around the Sprint development section on here, and there's definitely a lot of activity (which doesn't surprise me). And AOSP is very much my cup of tea, I have no desire for TouchWiz. I know the GS3 will have ports and all, but the Sprint one doesn't seem to have anything in terms of JB yet, whereas the GNex JB porting seems all but completely done already.

My EVO 3D has the Qualcomm MSM8660, 2 cores at 1.2 GHz at stock speeds, and the GNex has the TI OMAP 4460, also 2 cores at 1.2 GHz at stock. I know when the GNex first came out, some people were disappointed in the processor. Have any of you found it to be insufficient? I know it can be overclocked, and I'm sure I will so long as it doesn't cause too much battery loss, but is it sufficient for higher-end games? I looked at the GPUs (Adreno 220 vs. PowerVR SGX540), too, but my knowledge of mobile GPUs is practically nonexistent...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] moe6:
I think the OMAP is plenty powerful, I haven't really found a want for more CPU power ESPECIALLY after Jelly Bean. Device just fly's now.

The main difference between the GS3 and the Gnex is going to be the GPU. Now I don't really game on mobile devices (hardcore gamer on PC and consoles all my life, so the "great" mobile games don't do anything for me only the crazy ones do like Edge or Osmos) but it has been brought to my attention multiple times of people having only just enough performance for high end games.

I've played a little shadowgun, mostly just to test USB OTG and a PS3 controller lol, and that game runs smooth enough. Could use a little more power here and there though.

I think the other benefits of Gnex far outweigh this though. Even more so if you buy retail since it's almost half the price for, what I think, is a much better phone and mobile experience.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kawaski47:
I came from a gs2 and this phone is a breath of fresh air. No more waiting for OTAs either!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kawaski47:
And like the guy above me said, its about mobile experience not necessarily newest tech
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vinnyemath:
It depends on your usage, if directed to games, go for GS3, in my view, any kind of use out of it, go with GN.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sensamic:
The GN screen is even dimmer than the SGS3. That is a serious con. Battery is much much lower also. Plus no SD and only 5Mpx camera (which produces bad video).

Still, the GN is awesome in other things, like the on screen buttons and updates. It probably will also get Android 5.0. The back cover is better to hold.

I think the next Nexus will be a LOT better. Im sure it will have an IPS display, like the Nexus 7, plus quad core with JB will be awesome. It if were here today I would have bought it over the SGS3.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
For development and if its your main purpose, Nexus hands down.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Bfitz26:
i too am in the same situation i have always love the gs series however they never realease ota's chances of you getting jb on it a high however you won't get it until 5.0 is released while the nexus will have it months and months before it but the camera is kinda a deal breaker for me i don't use the camera so that isn't a issue for me..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kyokeun1234:
Trust me when I tell you, since you do a lot of hacking, Nexus will be the best choice hands down. Yes, it has slower spec and no sd card... I was complaining too, but after few days, that doesn't seem to matter for me anymore.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] P.Mobile:
well i was at my sprint store today to pay my bill and im kinda cool with one of the dudes that works there.. so he like come check out the new samsung gs3.. now he know's i like htc.. so i said screw it ill play around with it see what it got.. well he asking bout my lte and im telling him i love it ect.. so as im playing with it i ask him if he ever heard of quadrant or linpack.. he said no! so i show him on the gs3.. i did 2 quadrant tests both was 4700 range and linpack i did like 5 runs and it went from like say 140-190 it jump around alot just like it does on my lte.. my lte does better than the gs3!!! i kno people say quadrants aint sh*T but that made me feel so good to see my HTC LTE kick the gs3 a$$.. on my lte i get like around 5100 on quadrant and linpack like 140-215.. its stays around like 200 the most.. yes i am rooted not stock.. but i was geting the same when it was stock.. thats my word.. this phone kicks a$$!!!!!!!!!!!!:victory:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MissingBonobo:
I went to the Sprint store today, and compared my phone to the GS3. The screen was not as bright and the whites weren't white. I read people saying that but I was honestly surprised how dull it was. Plus the keyboard on Sense rules IMO.

I just wish I had the weather on the lockscreen like them. It's pretty awesome.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] princebama:
Same for me today, played with a coworkers new Sprint GS3, and was instantly turned off my the screen graininess
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] donatom3:
Open the personalize app, choose lock screen style and choose weather for your lock screen.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Robbie_G:
Settings > personalize > lock screen > Weather
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] NateN34:
Yep, this phone is a beast!

I compared them at the store.. Also my brother has the S3 from Sprint, so I really compared them...

The blacks on the SIII screen are absolutely amazing and destroy the EVOs, although that is where the advantages end... The screen on the EVO is MUCH more clear (especially with text), you cannot see pixels on the EVO, because it is not pentile like the SIII......in fact you can see so the pixels so well on the SIII, that it almost does not even look like a 720p display. Also every other color, besides black is head and heals above the SIII..........the whites too on the SIII are blueish....most everything has a bluish tint, besides the blacks. Finally, things are a bit blurry on the SIIIs display, while on the EVO 4G LTE, it is crystal clear.........so the display is obviously far better on the EVO.

Reception.........no comparison here, since it is well known the SIII has radio issues. Although on the same table (not holding), the EVO 4G LTE gets full bars, while the SII gets 2 and the SIII gets 4. So the reception on this phone is far better than the SIIIs, which is also what they said at the sprint store.

Camera.............of course I also compared this... The camera and video recording is a tad bit better on the EVO and in video recording, the SIII records sound oddly, while the EVO does not.

Performance... yep, oddly enough the SIII performs a good amount worse. The best I seen was 4700 quadrant on a clean ROM and all apps closed on the SIII, while my EVO with MEANrom gets 5271. The most noticable thing is that the memory performance on the EVO is faster than the SIII, so it's memory must be a bit better, despite having less than the SIII. It also seems in benchmarks like OpenGL Egypt offscreen, the EVO still outperforms the SIII.

The only thing I am jelly about with the SIII, is that the darn thing is butter smooth! Every menu is just pure buttery goodness on that phone. Although I attribute that to the fact that HTC's Sense performs far worse..

Other than that, I love this phone. My 14 day trade in time expires in 2 days and now I know for sure I am sticking with this beautiful phone!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MissingBonobo:
I know about that but they do it different. You can keep your background instead of HTCs way of doing it. Wish I had that.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Quis89:
You people must have amazing eyes. I always see people complain about seeing the pixels on the S3 screen. I don't see them. The colors seem vibrant and the blacks are truly black. It's a very nice screen to me. I prefer the EVO LTE but there is definitely nothing wrong with the S3 screen. I sometimes feel we exaggerate things for the sake of feeling better about our phones lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] moses2303:
I agree about the screen. If you hold them both side by side and find an app on both phones with the same white background, you can clearly see a difference. This phone is noticeably brighter and I really don't like how the AMOLED screens on the Samsung phones turn everything to a bluish green hue.

Try it and you'll see what I'm talking about.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
People typically feel the need to ensure themselves that their purchase was worth it. That's one of the causes of a lot of arguments here.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dreamliner330:
On the S3, "Graininess" can be seen at about 18 inches for me... unacceptable. Every device has pros/cons. EVO's pro is the screen. S3's pro is 2GB & Wolfson DAC. I waited for the S3...and still chose the EVO.

Agreed. My Photon was probably the best 'phone' but the screen was awful.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PhAkEer:
Repos

..The Pharm..

Welcome. This is a repository with a few of the Placebo1 formats.

Be careful with them, I cannot guarantee them to be universal.

Obviously, of they say Univ then there have no reports of From specific issues. Similarly, if they say TW, don't bother trying on an AOSP build.

Here are some new items for your tool chests...

Format 12 & 7 and a persistent busybox

\\________//

Enjoy

Placebo-Black

Heres a little more info

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=30348571

"This IS THE DROID you're looking for!!" Come to the black side...

Placebo Black was written on and for

BLACK ROM,

by Team Rejects!! AND Team Nocturnal!!

Works on every rom its been tested on, including JB builds.

PlaceboCmX-1

Placebo Pi. Nice and balanced build.

Nice and balanced. 8/09/12

Placeboπ

DietPill revision 1 (a big hit, simple, effective)

DietPillR1

DietWifiHERE

;)

Placebo-FHV: 8/5 (balance)

http://db.tt/wFL0qtJy

So smooth.... that...

I should call it Santana or Thomas.. Eeer something

http://db.tt/XE2DWzst

Placebo set to Ondemand (performance)

PlaceboOnDmnd

Sugar Pill was an earlier one that was very well received. Stable, simple, gets work done, son!

Crazy Pill was around the same time as Sugar Pill. Can't remember much, except I think I was still adding transitions animations.

There's your warning.

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Check out my new JB compatible Odex Station

#

# RECOMMENDED: PHAKE_SETTINGS

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dalvik.vm.heapstartsize=12m

dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit=96m

dalvik.vm.heapsize=192m

ril.hsxpa=2

ril.gprsclass=['dc 10 mul 4 sub 10';]

ril.hsdpa.category=['dc 8 mul 4 sub 8']

ril.hsupa.category=6\2

windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=< >

debug.gr.swapinterval=0

RLIMIT_NICE 1

HOME_APP_ADJ -5

HOME_APP_MEM 5688

VISIBLE_APP_ADJ 1

VISIBLE_APP_MEM 11366

#

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] anti-up:
Thank you, you have clearly put allot of time into this... Im gonna check this out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revamper:
lolwut
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nathan7:
Thank you ! 1st page.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Custodian:
What other scripts have you tested with this master piece?...Is it known to bump heads with any other scripts?

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PhAkEer:
Placebo; Defined

A good reference for governors, definitions of their settings, extweaks, io schedulers, and a whole lot of other things.. can be found

Here, and thank OP of this thread if you like their info

Frequent Questions

Here's a little info I prepared about the virtual memory aspect.. this is not complete.. and it's my half assed interpretation...

-------------------Virtual Memory------------------

dirty_background_ratio (threshold at which background data becomes 'dirtyable'

dirty_ratio (threshold at which data becomes 'dirtyable'

dirty_expire_centisecs (time, in hundredths of seconds, before dirty data expires

dirty_writeback_centisecs (time, in hundredths of seconds, before old data is allowed to be written by PDflush Daemons ( a value of ZERO disables flush, out of fear I haven't tried this.

drop_caches (self explained, but the values are | 1=PageCache; 2=InodeCache; 3=both

highmem_is_dirtyable (I don't fully understand this, but my take is it can prevent random/unnecessary I/O within known/mapped files

laptop_mode (determines the time, in seconds, between "disk" I/O and a flush of all dirty data

lowmem_reserve_ratio (ratio of total pages-to-free-pages for each memory zone

min_free_kbytes (this number is used to compute a pages_min value for each lowmem zone

- Well, that's the real point... you actually have to get your hands dirty here. No way around it.

Well,,, let's start from when you were 3. Go over in detail every decision you've ever made so I can graph what you will like best. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iniz94:
Have no idea how to use this but clearly you put in a lot of effort and it shows (look at the Quadrant! :P). Thank you for your contribution and I believe this should go in the Development Section aswell
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] elliwigy:
Lol i have no idea what im doing.. I unzipped it and put it in system bin folder n tried to run it in term emu and got log error so created a log in data log and it did something and log is full of garble but i know im doing it wrong. It was worth a try :-) wish i had some instruction so i could get those scores! Mines under 3000
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] aappss01:
Wish I could figure out how to use this lol, thanks for you hard work! :good:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PhAkEer:
Placebo:

It's hard to summarize Placebo quickly and in an easy to understand way.

Placebo is a script, or set of scripts, that changes Linux kernel settings in your Android.

It is hard to stay caught up, because the number of potential combinations is almost without limit,

and placebo is constantly changing as I learn/dabble with new/existing modifications.

Some will be for better battery (though all will probably help a little), some will be to make your phone

scream louder than Jenna J.

I would be more than willing to provide more technical information to anybody that requests it.

It's almost pointless to post specific values that are set, as no two Placebos make every adjustment the same,

but there are some constants, for example:

Every Placebo implements a sysctl.conf (or equiv.) which will adjust (at least some of) the following settings:

(The following is a brief breakdown of tunable virtual memory settings, as I understand them.

I do not claim to know a lot about Linux. If you notice something that I have misunderstood,

Please correct me. Flaming will not be responded to. Helpful knowledge will be appreciated.)

-------------------Virtual Memory------------------

dirty_background_ratio (threshold at which background data becomes 'dirtyable'

dirty_ratio (threshold at which data becomes 'dirtyable'

dirty_expire_centisecs (time, in hundredths of seconds, before dirty data expires

dirty_writeback_centisecs (time, in hundredths of seconds, before old data is allowed to be written by PDflush Daemons ( a value of ZERO disables flush, out of fear I haven't tried this.

drop_caches (self explained, but the values are | 1=PageCache; 2=InodeCache; 3=both

highmem_is_dirtyable (I don't fully understand this, but my take is it can prevent random/unnecessary I/O within known/mapped files

laptop_mode (determines the time, in seconds, between "disk" I/O and a flush of all dirty data

lowmem_reserve_ratio (ratio of total pages-to-free-pages for each memory zone

min_free_kbytes (this number is used to compute a pages_min value for each lowmem zone
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] elliwigy:
Not sure what to type lol and what to show you in the log but i am rooted on the universe rom with agats kernel.. I just typed in placebo. It has a ton of info in the log.. Also the universe does have kobridge tweaks which i see it in the logs lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PhAkEer:
Re: [TWEAK] placebo [$ETTINGS]

Just pm a copy of the log if yoy can... Im at work but will take a look.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PhAkEer:
Alright, I had hoped to wait until page 3..page 3 is always a safe place... Oh well....

This is a config Im currently working on. If it plays out well, its a big boost in a couple departments.

I cant very well get this thing universal with only one test phone...

Placebo: SugarPill

http://db.tt/in7LAmRN

This one almost effects the battery as much as a new ROM. It will probably take a short cycle before it balances itself out.

These settings are a little aggresive, but Im still taking it easy because I dont want anyone to break anything...

Come on guys, I thought we could all evolve this together =)

FREEBIE:

Ever gone into the supplicant scan's config file? Its pretty useful if you were to... say... Idk... Change the interface to uwbr0.

Your welcome.

(pictures unrelated to above tip)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
Much better on the OP. Are you able to provide the download link to the file using the regular xda method (I added one below)? It is easier to see the link and it provides 2 very useful things: it has a built-in download counter (views) and you can remove or update it to new file(s) whenever you like.

Edit: Please put a brief note on the OP with what this script is known to work with (ROMs). And also do yourself a favor and put a disclaimer that you do not plan to support all the roms that are out at this time, try at your own risk stuff. That will save you a lot of headache there are so many different roms out there.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] b1g.p0ppa:
Is there a reason you're leaving /system writable?

Also, this seems to effectively replace kobridge's 41tweaks script, but doesn't address his ondemand scheduler, or build.prop or wifi sleep tweaks. Is that accurate? Can you see any potential conflicts if I kept those?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PhAkEer:
Actually it was by design to leave those alone, and since I have no scheduler in Placebo, no conflict there. (I smaaawt sah ntine) :p .

I didnt ask kobridge for permission to insert his work into placebo, so WifiSleepWait is left alone.

If you look for the "*tweaks" youll see what it is.. placebo will interact only with things having "tweak" in their name in its current config.

And about system, thats just a preference of mine. Feel free to add anything (including unmount) to it.

@ Tdun,

Forgive my XDA noobiness, but no actually, I dont know how to make that little tab. Lol

Thanks for all of your constructive criticism/advice. Its much appreciated.

(lol typos when noob=nofun)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] apatcas:
Anyway this will work on GB?

Im on Calk's el29 and would love to see if this works on it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] b1g.p0ppa:
Awesome! So awesome it inspired me to edit my sig. Here's how I'm incorporating your script into my rig:

echo "SugarPilling"
test -f /system/etc/init.d/41tweaks_kobridge && rm /system/etc/init.d/41tweaks_kobridge
cp /sdcard/gscript/SugarPill /system/etc/init.d/41SugarPill && chmod 755 /system/etc/init.d/41SugarPill

---------- Post added at 03:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:10 PM ----------

Sure it would. If nothing else, run it interactively and check the log. (I'm pretty sure) the tweaks get reset back to default when you reboot.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PhAkEer:
lol Im scatter-brained and trying to get out the door for work,

As for GB, I dont see why there would be any issues. I havent tried it, but these are the same things that were in scripts long before I was playing witb them so Id guess that its safe.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackcanopy:
I haven't ran into any of those problems, but i have noticed the speed increase.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Fendulon:
Well I am running this tweak on the 7/20 build of AOKP from times_infinity. It is working beautifully. It seems to smooth scrolling considerably. I haven't gone through a charge cycle but the battery seems pretty solid.

Thanks for the work.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackcanopy:
So... Where is said file located?...

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PhAkEer:
Lol which is that? If you mean the supp_scan its in /etc/wifi, tell tou what, I realized why people arent seeing thisblike I am. In an attempt to slim down the log, i removed a mount that necessary on accident. Ill throw it in a zip with that other file I mentioned there as well. All that additional file will so is make wimax sleepable, instead of having to toggle it back on. Gimme a minute
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackcanopy:
Sounds great to me.. I'll be checking back in often:D

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