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[HTC Inspire 4G] Teichopsia:
Before it's moved, there is a thread over the dhd section where there are a couple of people doing the same as you. Head on over there, maybe you can help each other out.

Sent from a dream.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Nick281051:
Ugh...
[HTC Inspire 4G] lowe0292:
Sorry about the wrong thread. I'll definitely check out the one over at DHD.

Should/can I close this thread or will the mods?
[HTC Inspire 4G] P00t:
im pretty sure mods will either delete the thread or move it to the general section.
[HTC Inspire 4G] B.Jay:
Correct.

And it would be helpful if you guys would actually make use of the Report function to report inappropriately posted threads or whatever problem else.

You'd spare us a whole lot of trouble to read each and every piece written around here.
[HTC Inspire 4G] illogicalmind:
So is this still in the wrong thread?

Is Jelly Bean that far different from ice cream sandwich? Are you going to have to wait for the official ICS release for DHD to get all the functionality working?
[HTC Inspire 4G] cwhitney24:
We don't need this thread period lmao

"I am the Bacon Pope"
[HTC Inspire 4G] angramenyu:
We haven't got ICS to fully work yet, and we are talking about jellybean already? I think I will wait for HTC to release ICS for the DHD first.
[HTC Inspire 4G] J-Rod1988:
I have been running ics with no problems aside camera, but do agree its a little early for jelly bean
[HTC Inspire 4G] gsminhas:
Yes its very early for jb after ics

but porting it is not very difficult.

Its just a better version of ics but as we know we dont have proper kernel for ics.SAME goes with jb .:(

what i think is kernel is the main problem.IF v have proper kernel jb will be no problem
[HTC Inspire 4G] titilianos:
I hace many problem yo be jallybean ny htc dont erario with jellybean
[HTC Inspire 4G] titilianos:
Sorry Mt htc have many problems to be jellybean dont startup just white scream with greeb letters just that
[HTC Inspire 4G] trh1341:
Desire HD thread has working jellybean so y'all calm down and flash in your inspire because it is truly Incredible
[HTC Inspire 4G] GuestD0213:
Yeah, Tough its an alpha release, its worth flashing...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1778202
[HTC Inspire 4G] NfamousDroid:
Yeah randomblame has been like a mad genius and dropped 7 alpha releases in just a couple days and its been exciting. I'm on alpha 7 right now and its amazing how great this ROM is already! :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] girakshay:
I m using B1 release and works. I did not encounter major issues except random reboots once in a while. You can actually feel the difference of Project Butter in UI.
[HTC Inspire 4G] zerodameaon:
Because for one no official release of ICS is slated for the Inspire 4G and the DHD's release has been canceled sorry to break your heart. Also the alpha Jelly Bean ports were working far better then the alphas of ICS.

JB has been daily stable for me these last 2 days, only had 2 random reboots and the camera, well that's a very tiny price to pay.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Seveli13:
I'm with this guy can't get JB if we don't have ICS yet :what:
[HTC Inspire 4G] J-Rod1988:
Hmmm maybe I have to give JB a try
[HTC Inspire 4G] :
I have tried every jb Rom In dhd forum.I was surprised to see the progress.They can be used as daily drivers if u don't mind reboot once in a day.But I am more entrusted in sense 4. I have used ics for soo long that got bored with it and jb look same to me.Jb is just extra smooth version of ics.

Sent from my Inspire 4G
[HTC Inspire 4G] Muikkuman:
A full sense 4.0 Rom with working camera would be nice yes :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] :
I totally agree with you but HTC announced that they cancelled their ICS update for DesireHD due to performance issues :(. I am more or less sure that ICS+Sense (with camera working) is never gonna happen.
[HTC Inspire 4G] :
Don't lose heart see how far devs have developed ics and jb on there own.I have faith in them they will surely get everything working. HTC have to see lot of factors.v can't really blame them.We are advance users and v are minority.

Let hope a dev got thing working or kernel source get leaked :D

I have done some development and I know how hard it is to get user a daily driver

Sent from my Inspire 4G
[HTC Inspire 4G] J-Rod1988:
Yes I agree, the devs have done some amazing work, I'm sure they can do it
[Asus Transformer TF700] ishamm:
does anyone know the max sd card transfer speed of the pad, and the dock?

i am looking at a 128GB SDXC card (yes, its a lot, but this is replacing a dead laptop for the foreseeable future) , UHS-1 60mb/s, or a 45mb/s one. will the UHS card actually have any benefits in the dock, or simply when transfering data to it from the PC.

many thanks!
[Asus Transformer TF700] MartyHulskemper:
I'm currently running a Class 10 (200x) 32 GB SDHC in the dock, branded Dane-Elec. Runs fine. I don't know if it takes 32+ GB cards, though... And to be honest, while heavily dependent on what you actually do with it, for most purposes a high-speed card should suffice...
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
I'm currently using two Sandisk cards:

- microSD class 10 30MBps SDHC Ultra (16GB)

- full SD class 10 SDHC Extreme 45MBps in the docking station (32GB)

They get better speeds than the built-in disk, but it is still not great. It seems to be about 15-18Mbps write for SD, 6Mbps write for microSD and 30-32Mbps read for both (as compared to 12/18 of the internal memory).

The fastest way of moving data still seems to be external USB HDD...

Hope this helps, haven't tried any other yet. I have tried both FAT32 and NTFS though. They seem to give similar results (I had no problems using NTFS on my SD card so far, which is a good sign).
[Asus Transformer TF700] MartyHulskemper:
I haven't used an external drive yet, but I agree with the observation that the transfer speed is not optimal, no matter what card I plug in (I have transplanted a few I normally use in my DSLR just for testing; they are all fast cards, as you can imagine). I transferred several documentaries and a lot of photographs yesterday evening and it took ages, mainly due to the fact that the transfer process hangs up the entire device (!) regularly. It seems to happen after about 70 to 80 MB are read into (temporary?) memory and apparently are only then buffered out to the main storage. Let's hope a custom ROM can straighten this issue out...
[Asus Transformer TF700] ishamm:
Thanks. Given these figures, would you install apps on the main memory, if a 30mbps rated micro sd for best performance?
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
In my case internal memory is faster than microSD. You don't really have the option, unless you play with the filesystem and mount your MicroSD on /mnt/sdcard instead of /Removable/MicroSD. In the Infinity /mnt/sdcard is just a folder within the internal memory by default (many apps use it though, so they had to arrange it this way). I don't think there is any reason to change this, as internal memory seems faster and that's whole 64GB of it (OK, maybe 56 available, but still a lot..).
[Asus Transformer TF700] ishamm:
Perfect thanks, I thought though that there were current issues with I/O speeds until someone could fix it in a Rom. Or has this been addressed in the new firmware?
[Asus Transformer TF700] d14b0ll0s:
Hopefully I could tell you in a few days, but honestly I don't think it has (can't try it out yet, as the firmware released is Taiwanese version, and I'm on the World-Wide).

The Infinity is not that far behind other new tablets or rather it's not only TF700's problem, see http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28416635&postcount=2842

However, after changing the scheduler to sio and doing some tweaks (see my post on it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1758160), it's running pretty smoothly (unless you want to do a lot of CPU-heavy jobs while having huge reads or writes in the background, in this case it can get frustrating, but.. there is no real alternative these days).
[Asus Transformer TF700] MartyHulskemper:
This. As i've ranted earlier, the new firmware provides fixes for camera issues, not for the I/O the TF700 so obviously suffers from. Having said that, it is not like the tablet in itself is useless as it is -- far from it -- but remains a mystery to me why they didn't spot this in advance (like with the Prime's issues with GPS and wifi), It seems like ASUS develops a device by letting several teams work onindividual components, and, when they get their specific part up and running, just put it together and relese it. I have a distinct feeling that neither device was actually and properly tested.

But, still, I'm pretty happy with the device overall. :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
I think you need to read this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1767755

From what I see my UHS-1 card that doesn't work is initialized as DDR which means the max speed for the TF700T µSD is 50 MB/s (as that is the only DDR speed).

The full size SD socket uses a USB host so the big question is is it USB 2.0 or 3.0!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Einride:
All specifications says USB 2.0 for the dock, so I would assume that's correct, even for the TF700 dock.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
Asus has finally responded that there is limited UHS-1 support in the µSD slot.

For now you are better off not trying UHS-1 in there. The may come up with a patch...
[Asus Transformer TF700] kokoPedli:
external memory limits

Careful there with a 128gig card, I read somewhere that there is a 32 gig upperlimit on recognizing cards and sticks...

:confused: tho I do wonder if you formatted it into enough partitions it might read them all?
[Asus Transformer TF700] tha_kreature:
If the dock uses a sdhc compatible controller and simply exposes the card as a mass storage device for the system, then there is really no such limit. The SDXC cards which supports >32GB does so due to the SD's FAT specification not for actual addressing and such.

SDXC cards are accessible as SDHC but standard specifies ExFat as default filesystem. This may not work on units not compatible with ExFat, but a reformat will fix that. In the TF700T's case we have already seen users use 64 GB cards breaking that 32GB barrier.

We have also seen the TF700T mount ExFat, although it seems to fallback to NTFS.

The thing he should be carefull of is UHS in the µSD socket as it's still wonky.

In the dock I suspect a UHS card will simply be treated as a normal SDHC card, but UHS cards usually have better class speeds so may be a benefit even with the dock doing USB2.0 hosting.

Edit:

To back up my claims see here...

http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2520/~/sd/sdhc/sdxc-specifications-and-compatibility
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
Hi everybody

Currently on a Desire HD, development has dried up a lot and considering moving to the nexus line of phones next time. My contract finishes in mid November. Now my question is, will there be a new Nexus phone available by then? Is that the prediction based on the release dates of the previous phones?

And if the prediction is that there will not be a new model by then, would it be wise to go for a newer phone such as the HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3?

Thanks in advance for the help guys ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
Must likely one will be out, our out soon. But hey a galaxy nexus right now is only three hundred and fifty new
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
Hopefully a new Nexus will be out then. I paid an extortionate price on my Desire HD contract just so I could get a cheaper deal on the second phone lol, was just thinking I dont want to go for a year old phone when I get a new 24 month contract.

Oh btw, does development for the nexus phones go on for longer than the other "regular" phones? DHD and Desire are pretty much finished, everythings a bit cluttered and broken because of hardware compatibility and that for ICS. Official kernels take forever to arrive. I imagine Nexus phones dont have that problem?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] live4nyy:
Is this a rhetorical question? :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
Most probably there will be a new Nexus phone at the end of the year, along with the rumored Nexus 10. But the new phone won't be $350 like the GNex is now
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
I am fine with the higher price just as long as it isnt extortionate. Something around what the GS3 is now I could live with.

Do Nexus phones have a longer development support time than other phones such as HTC's? Would there be a lot of development for several years to come or does it seriously slow down after the new Nexus model is released?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] snowmanwithahat:
On a Nexus S now.... It's slowed down but not bad. It's definitely not dead.

I'd say you're usually SOL after a couple generations. Nexus One owners are probably in a very similar boat as you Desire owners currently
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Konceptz804:
I dont know about a new nexus being out by Christmas but I'm pretty sure the next nexus will be announced at least. I'm thinking the next Nexus will be made by Motorola.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
Google has only officially been able to work with Motorola for about a month. No way they have already worked on a phone design that will be ready by the end of the year. Plus, if they come out with a single Motorola phone as the next Nexus device, then Google will piss off all their partners. It would be the worst thing they could do and Google knows it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] afma_afma:
I am praying and hoping next nexus is made by Motorola....I am sick and tired of Samsung poor quality...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
Wait until the nexus if you're going to be on contract. I got this phone like 10 days ago and its awesome.

Sent from my Aokp'd Nexus Prime
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Headcase_Fargone:
Out of curiosity, what's your beef with Samsung's build quality? I've never owned a Motorola phone (not since the Startac anyway), so I can't speak to that. I do know that my Nexus seems better built than my HTC Evo 4G.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nonione:
Remember next November the 5th its android's 5th anniversary and there's 5 nexus devices to be released on that date ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] doctahjeph:
I wouldn't hold your breath on an new nexus phone by the end of this year. Nexus phones aren't really released by a time basis, meaning once a year, even though it seems like it. Nexus devices are released along side new software versions. So I highly doubt we will see a new Nexus phone running Jelly Bean. If we were it would have been released along side the Nexus 7. I think our best bet for a new Nexus Phone will be when Key Lime Pie is released. I honestly don't see that happening by the end of the year. Not when most Android devices aren't even on ICS yet. I think it will be about 9-12 months before we get key lime pie, and once we do we most likely will have the next generation nexus phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
Maybe Google will start making them, they did make the Nexus Q and google is well known.

Sent from my Aokp'd Nexus Prime
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] doctahjeph:
God I hope not. I have never been impressed with Motorola phones. IMHO Samsung as the best phones. Honestly I wouldn't mind if Google released AOSP phones on different device manufactures at the same time. But, I guess this is already rumored.

---------- Post added at 12:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:40 PM ----------

Has this been confirmed? I thought it was only a rumor. Also some articles I read put the Nexus 7 and Nexus Q among those five devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] The Nexus Project:
Nexus development lifespans far exceed regular OEM devices. Remember they get the software first no strings attached. So everything in this years development cycle ICS will be the same for next year JB etc. And it'll go on as long as the hardware is compatible. My friends running a Nexus S w/ JB. And when the GNex dropped he swore it (Nexus S) ran ICS better than the GNex. Seems like you already know this but just want confirmation. So here it is. As long as your Nexus' hardware stays relevant, you'll be in on the latest software development

Sent from my i9250 (GSM) Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
Hmm you have a point. Judging from the wiki on Android version history though it does seem like there is a major (not incremental) software upgrade every 8-12 months, with the exception being 2.0 to 4.0 (for phone users, skipping 3.0 Honeycomb) which was about 15 months. So keeping to that timeline, I would think it is possible they release the new version of Android either at the end of this year or early next year because I dont think Android 5.0 will be as big a step up from ICS as ICS was from GB because most of the fundamental work I would say is done with the main ICS and the Jelly Bean incremental, its just a matter of adding a few features here and there and cleaning it up slightly.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] doctahjeph:
Who is to say that KLP won't be Android 4.2?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
Thats true, but I was judging from the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history) the times between major versions of Android.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DevilStrider:
Not buying a Motorola phone even if it is a nexus. They make you go through hell to unlock the bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] captain67:
Sony Ericsson (now just Sony) does the same thing. They make it sound like unlocking is easy but that's only if you buy full retail unlocked phones.

I would be fine with any nexus made by HTC or Samsung. LG and Motorola are terrible quality phones, and Sony's latest designs are ugly.. sad because I really liked the 2011 series.

Sent from a galaxy far, far away
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
Uh, a Nexus phone would not have that issue if Motorola manufactured it. Part of being in the Nexus program requires the bootloader to be unlocked easily (and supported by Android's SDK Tools).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] negrobembon:
Actually a Sony nexus would be interesting(unlikely to happen) but interesting

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
I think the next Nexus will most likely be made by Samsung, although i would like to see it made by HTC as they use really good materials and have second to none build quality on their devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lowandbehold:
The HTC oNEX.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] darkfire2024:
I'm really excited to see how Google will show off Key Lime Pie and their next Nexus at the end of the year... so excited in fact that I can't even decide whether to wait it out or just take the plunge on the amazing price of $349 for the galaxy nexus + jelly bean goodness.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] doctahjeph:
There is no guarantee that it will be released at the end of the year. More than likely not.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
I'd say wait, see if there is a new one, if not then this one will be cheaper by then.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JaiaV:
Yay, yet another rumor and speculation thread, where everyone will come to spread the hatred of their least favorite Android OEMs!

On a serious note, nobody knows when the 'next Nexus device' is going to come around except for Google themselves and any manufacturers they may be talking to. Although my personal opinion is that it may be quite a while as they've just started to release Android 4.1, with the Galaxy Nexus as the dual-flagship alongside the Nexus 7, as well as releasing the Nexus Q (as it is..).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] live4nyy:
Would that be pronounced "Oh-NEX"? Provocative.... :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
Right decided that if a new Nexus doesnt come out by the time I upgrade I will go for a 12 month contract of the Galaxy Nexus, in preparation xD

Anyway the more contracts I take out with Vodafone the more room I have to haggle a good deal in the end lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] captain67:
In my opinion, the hardware we have right now is good enough. Instead of new phones, I want to see android become better optimized for what we already have, and see the latest iteration brought to the many devices we have that are capable, and yet not running it.

Focus less on bringing us a new nexus, and more on getting jellybean running on our current phones. The gnex, Galaxy s2 and s3, HTC One series, Xperia NXT, and the newest Motorola and LG phones are more than capable.

If Google doesn't start putting out the updates properly instead of just offering us new phones with the newest update, the customer base is going to get annoyed even more than they already are, and leave android altogether.

I've lost count of how many people have told me they wanna leave android, because they were told they would get ICS and still haven't. Not everybody is capable of installing custom roms, and many who do have the knowledge don't want to void their warranty.

If Google ever plans to completely overthrow those bastards at Apple, they're gonna need to work on the fragmentation problem we've been experiencing first. Jumping straight into JB and then into KLP when most of the community is stuck on gingerbread won't make people buy new phones. Instead it's just going to piss them off.

Sent from a galaxy far, far away
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
Very very true. I think its just the new ICS theming with Sense and all that, that is causing the huge delay. In a few months many many more people will be on ICS, and as JB is an incremental update some manufacturers may skip ICS and go straight to JB. I think by the end of the year the fragmentation should be fixed mostly. Most people will be on either ICS or JB. Then they can concentrate on the next version. Just like 70% of people were on GB then they released ICS. Should be similar when they release V5.0. So end of next year I'm guessing now should be the earliest.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JaiaV:
The 'fragmentation problem' has nothing to do with Google. Sure, Google isn't forcing OEMs to update faster, but all non-Nexus Android phones completely rely on their OEM to for updates, not Google. Google releases the source code (and now the PDK) for all OEMs to update their handsets at the same time they release the new Nexus device. It's not their fault that OEMs like Samsung, HTC, Motorola, LG, etc all just keep releasing multiple devices at the same time for low, mid and high ranges without caring about their older devices at all. It would probably be better if they followed a more Apple-like strategy, releasing one device every year and treating the previous model or two as the low and mid-range devices. Instead, they try to release a model in each range every single year and automatically outdate their own handsets. Once again, this has absolutely nothing to do with Google..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] scottspa74:
Can you even buy a GNex anymore? I just read an article 2 days ago saying that a court sided with apple regarding an apple suit against Samsung and Gnex in particular. An injunction saying that Sammy wouldn't be able to sell them while the court goes through the case. The article said it was noteworthy that that the court issued a hold/ban before even finishing trial. The court said apple would have to post a 95M$ bond to cover possible sales sales damages for Sammy, should the court find Sammy NOT in violation.

Made me hate apple more than I already do, which I thought wasn't possible

(I bought one for my mom for mothers day, and love it as much as my Evo LTE. )
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] raze599:
That's only in the US. I am in the UK. Anyway by late November time the ban should be long lifted.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] captain67:
It has plenty to do with Google. They're supplying the operating system and its app ecosystem to the manufacturers. If they had it in the contract that the themed versions of the OS had to be rolled out within a certain time frame, the manufacturers would have no choice but to comply or lose their business. After all, it's thanks to Google that they have a way to compete with Apple. If you bother to take a good look at any OS made by the manufacturer themselves, they have all failed. Symbian, BADA..

Sent from a galaxy far, far away