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[HTC One X] farnsbarns:
Audiophile my foot. I have a 96khz 24bit 384 track studio and a true flat response mastering room, I am a semi pro, recording musician.

Anyone who says "I'm an audiophile" when discussing a mobile phone is daft, what do you expect, it's a phone with a tiny peizo speaker, leave your audiophile expectations at home, with your hifi.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
the phone is a massive upgrade when it comes to sound quality for HTC

only the Sensation XL beats it

and yes we should start banning cry babies!

its getting boring around here
[HTC One X] chattyuk:
I have no problem with the quality of the loudspeaker or its volume when it rings but when it comes to playing other music its very quiet. On my previous phones I'd listen to the radio when I was in the shower. With the One X I can't hear the radio at all!
[HTC One X] jainanshal:
I don't know mate, but i am having serious trouble with the ringtones as well... i am forced to keep the phone around me all the time to avoid missing calls. I use 384kbps mp3s for ringtones.
[HTC One X] treebill:
I try to help I'm always looking to make stuff sound better you could edit trubass and treble see if you can get some nice sounds from the speak you can do the same with headphones and what not.
[HTC One X] Jack Barrett:
Same here, just mentioned the word to make more sense that I CARE about the quality even if it's small problem it makes my ears angry to listen to this.

It's not needed everyone to argue with me right?

All I can say for calling me crying baby is *****, please!

If you are bored don't read the topic and don't say bad words for people you don't know at all. ;)
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Amen. I have dozens of friends who consider themselves "audiophiles" because they spend a couple of thousand bucks on A/V equipment. I have two friends who are "true audiophiles" and they spend tens of thousands on A/V equipment. The latter would cut off an arm before they'd use any smartphone as an audio output device.

Back to Jack's issue. If he's unhappy, that's cool. Everyone here has different expectations and Jack's haven't been met. Us convincing him they should be by comparing his expectations to ours isn't going to go anywhere.

A final comment for people considering the One X and thinking "OMG, its external speaker is awful." It's pretty safe to say Jack's in the minority here. Since an in-built phone speaker really is judged by volume, it comes down to this from GSMArena:

Output from the One X's in-built speaker is about 15% lower than the SGS3. If that's a priority, get a SGS3. Before you make up your mind though, here's a helpful hint. Based on the placement of the speaker, it falls directly under your right hand if you're holding the phone in landscape mode. Cupping your hand over it acts as an amp and raises the volume significantly. Great for boosting the output of media content using Jack’s example of showing a video to a friend.
[HTC One X] Laurentius26:
All of a sudden simulair threads with audio complains popping out like mushrooms on a rainy day. :cyclops:

Audior-Video recording,poor sound,very very bad sound...

[Q] Mic issue =(

I'm not an audiophile but music is a hobby of mine, yes.

I recently bought a Motorola S9-HD High-Def Universal Bluetooth Stereo Headphone.

One word, awsom!

And about the One X build in speaker, it's decent enough for me to receive my calls when I'm in the car.

With the microphone I can answer the calls.
[HTC One X] death__machine:
I agree with OP the speaker isn't the best I've used, its pretty bad compared to the other mobile-phones I've used: N-gage, W800i, W810i, Nokia 5700, W810i and a 3GS before the HOX. Used many other phones too, but they didn't have a loudspeaker, they just had the speaker for those "monophonic"/Old-school ringtones xD

But I got over it honestly. The speaker is good enough to watch a video or two if you cup your hands around them they do get a little boost. As for the volume when it rings, its quite decent.

The placement of the speaker isn't the best though, but when kept on flat surfaces(tables and such) it sounds fine.

For music and tv shows I'm using these IEMs I have and it sounds satisfying. The beautiful screen is the bargain on this thing.
[HTC One X] :
OP check this out: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1692233
[HTC One X] lilvfr400boy:
Yeah audio through speaker is the ****tiest pile of crap I've ever heard I prefer my EVO 3d and even that was crap. Frigin sick of having poor ass audio on speaker and yes I realise its better through any other kind of audio output but seriously its embarassingly bad and also YouTube audio sucks ass with its jittering and stuttering even when its fully buffered. Sack this pos phone I hate it, and no I am not a troll I own this pos sadly.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
The One X is almost the same as the Sensation. I never followed it, were people complaining about its in-built speaker volume? It's also less than 10% softer than the i9100.

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The Evo's worse, not better.
[HTC One X] lilvfr400boy:
Dude I own them both and side by side I promise you the EVO is louder and clearer then my one x if you like I will make a video and post on my YouTube it will go side by side with my one x lack of multitasking video, I tried the exact audio files on both devices and the EVO clearly was louder in every way with better mid frequencies and clearerer vocals in every track. I don't care for stats off websites as they also show benchmarks that come nowhere near reality for most devices. You have to also bare in mind I payed cash for both so am annoyed at what I thought would be a massive leap forward only to find out I may as well have stuck with my evo
[HTC One X] treebill:
Like I posted the one x can get nice sounds from the speaker but srs is disabled by default on the speaker.

Louder doesn't equal better.
[HTC One X] BenPope:
Decibels represent ratios already, so you can't divide one by another. It's also logarithmic rather than linear scale.

10dB lower means it it's one tenth the output power, which is roughly equivalent to half as perceptibly loud.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
See, told you I wasn't an audiophile. ;) Since you seem to know what you're talking about, what's your take on this discussion and difference in performance levels of the phones listed in the charts?
[HTC One X] BenPope:
The external speaker on a phone can't shift much air, due to its size. Same with any other portable device. Of course, it's trade-off for size, weight and power consumption.

I haven't looked at the original review, I can't really tell what they are measuring, if anything, beyond volume.

Devices vary, but they all have way too much distortion and a far too narrow frequency response (especially at the bottom) for anybody to want to listen the noise they make.

They are also all too quiet to be showing your mates videos down the pub.

I don't really know what people expect from something that consumes such a small amount of power, in such a tiny, lightweight package.
[HTC One X] a704e:
Time to start carrying around an external speaker then.
[HTC One X] BenPope:
Or a pair of them. That are designed to fit your ears.
[HTC One X] lawrence750:
i wish there was a like button as well :laugh:
[HTC One X] demarton:
did A/B test

Out of curiosity, never think about it, so I did

A/B test between hox and my old sgs captivate,

sgs is on voodoo sound driver -the benchmark in android audio, no bass boost, all other default enhancement enabled.

Hox is on no-beats mode.

used mid/cheap in-ear Ajays two.

Tested several of regular pop songs in my collection.

My take is, sgs + voodoo vocal sounded more forward, instrument sounded a touch more distinct then hox, more but not by much, have to listen and A/B test.

Enabling Beats, is hit and miss with different tracks, some sounded better/on par than sgs, some made it worse.

all in all, I didn't hear anything outrageous OP described.

Speaker side, sgs + voodoo's tune speakers for music wins, no contests :laugh:
[HTC One X] htckt:
I agree...

The speaker's quality is terrible, it sounds ok only up to 70% and then this terrible limiter kicks in which destroys the sound completely.

I'm not sure if it's just a compressor/limiter or a multiband, sometimes the frequency ranges get compressed too so it could be multiband.

I bought a small external speaker, the ones that you unscrew and have a bass enhancer http://www.batteryinc.co.uk/mini-speaker-for-ipodiphoneall-music-players.html that thankfully bypasses all the compressor stuff and plays the audio uncompressed through the headphone jacket, the design adds a bit of bass as well so the sound isn't that bad.

The thing is, I don't know if it's a hardware compressor or a software one. If it's hardware there is nothing you can do about it, if it's software someone could someday replace the default audio output files with one from Xperia S lets say and everything would be good.

All the best
[HTC One X] treebill:
Software

srs_wowhd_0:wowhd_limiter_enable =1// Limiter Toggle - toggle

And

srs_wowhd_0:wowhd_limiter_gain =0.250// Limiter Minimum Gain - control

I can turn srs limiter off by setting the toggle to 0 but I haven't tried this.
[HTC One X] @home:
I have both the HOX & the SG3 & have done a back to back test with Poweramp, pair of Kilpsch X10 running Flac music.....

Both built in music players are pants....

The SG3 is meaty, full bodied & has a good depth & clear top end....

The HOX is a bit dull, lifeless & flat.....I didn't use beats audio...

Sorry to say it but for music the HOX is way off the mark
[HTC One X] htckt:
Thanks, this is great news. Not sure how to do this or edit advanced files but I hope a mod comes up that disables the limiter or sets the threshold higher (Threshold seems to be the gain). Can I edit this myself somehow? Complete newbie here.
[HTC One X] det66:
Sorry but anyone thinking they can play music through the speaker on a mobile phone and expecting decent audio quality from it needs looked at :silly:
[HTC One X] twe69:
Audio from my Xperia Play with dual stereo speakers is more than double in volume where I can actually use it for sat nav in the car whilst on the HTC One X I can't....

Hoping a case comes out that uses the pogo pins with better speakers built in.....
[HTC One X] det66:
dual stereo ..bit of a clue there
[HTC One X] Jack Barrett:
Have played already with srs_global but its still the same
[HTC One X] dreamdestiny:
Mate don't know if this will help but the htc one s has one of the cleanest outputs period, music quality is flawless, an I'm putting up with the smaller screen due to this
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
I think this sums up music output from a smartphone, no matter which DAC is used, pretty well. I have two friends that I'd consider true audiophiles and they spend as much on gear as what's referenced in the quote below. They'd chew off an arm before listening to music output from a smartphone and listen to no material that’s not FLAC or lossless. They'd also laugh hysterically about the endless debates in these forums over nuances and subtleties in playback that are obliterated by the lack of sophistication in any smartphone’s audio implementation and the compressed content used by 95% of smartphone users. One smartphone can sound better than another but that’s subjective. Some people really like Beats. Go figure? Compared to the original material heard on an audiophile-worthy system all smartphones are a big fail.

If any of you have friends who are audiophiles ($20K minimum investment) have them play what you think is the song best reproduced on your smartphone acquired in FLAC or lossless format. You'll be shocked at the detail, depth, and seperation that's missing. You can also stop by an audiophile-centric high-end a/v store at an off time and ask to use their listening room. Once you hear music output as its intended you'll be forever ruined for what you think is "flawless" today.

"High-end audio equipment is mostly a farce. As few people can tell good wine from great, and good writing from great (and unfortunately from bad writing), there is an abrupt point where 99% of people can’t objectively find any difference between a $400 receiver and a $40,000 receiver (or speakers or cabling or electrical outlets (not a typo in their price)). As most folks listen to overly-compressed (audio-wise) music in an overly-compressed (data-wise) format, mp3, an expensive receiver is even more ridiculous.

As more studios and producers massage the sound to be well-received as a digital file, high-end equipment becomes a hinderance to enjoyment as it exposes the flaws in the mastering/processing strategy

."

http://strange-birds.org/2010/01/18/high-end-a-v-equipment-summed-up-in-one-review

This is an older but great article on what's missing from music being mastered today. And not only due to compression, but because studios know it's going to be compressed and are no longer including the detail they used to even in the original master.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122114058
[HTC One X] twe69:
OK, my old Samsung Galaxy S ;)
[HTC One X] dreamdestiny:
I agree with you, but please relise most smartphone users that discuss music quality are far from the deep level audiophiles you are talking about that are spending 20k etc. when I say music quality is flawless I mean it's flawless 'for a smartphone'. Most people don't have a clue how to get flac or lossless music or that most of the music they play is heavily compressed. I really do understand where your coming from but remember we are talking about music quality on the htc one x ( a smartphone). It's like goin into a ford focus forum where they talk about speed and racing each other, an u go in a say ' u guys don't know speed and racing till u go to the f1 track
[HTC One X] Jack Barrett:
Finally someone who gets what I'm saying here.
[HTC One X] kisokod:
I can enjoy the music on my HOX. Well, there are several differences if I hear from headphone or not, but comparing with sound from other phone (my friend has a SGS3), my impression HOX is a little bit superior that SGS3. This is subjective perception, but my friend also agree with that. I don't know if he customize his SGS3 or not, but mine still use stock.

Probably not any HOX built with high quality, and mine probably on the good side.
[HTC One X] jimmy2027:
A nice thing with smartphones is that there are mods available to possibly fix any issues with the phone.

Why don't you search around the forum and try the one extreme mod (look it up!!)

There are also apps available on the market to help with the speaker issue.

Hope that helps.;)
[HTC One X] Jack Barrett:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg_sqnm2zsY (check on 2:56)

Here's a video comparing S3 and HOX speakers. Listen what I'm talking about.
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
my opinion is that the speaker in hox is very good ....better then in other phones and especially nokia i've tried so many but in hox its the best ....its loud enough for me...
[HTC One X] guttercow:
Audio is fine on the One X.

Headphone output is just as good as any other smartphone out there.. And the speaker? Yeah it's bad. I only want to hear ringtones and notifications through the speaker.. Why anyone would use the speaker to listen to music is beyond me..
[HTC One X] ste1164:
Speaker is pretty crap on the one x but it doesn't bother me personally. If you want a phone with a good speaker I'd recommend a blackberry :P they are extremely good even beating the iPhone's loudspeaker.
[HTC One X] Jack Barrett:
We are talking here about the compression, not loudness. When HOX's volume is not max (just 5/8 to say) there is no problem. But every level up after that is going to be compressed more and more which totally destroys the sound. I wont use headphones just to check a youtube video.

Check the video (again link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg_sqnm2zsY) on 2:56 and see the difference. It totally destroys the sound.

P.S. People who say the speaker and sound is "so good" can check themselves.
[HTC One X] Basil3:
I agree. This was one of the big issues when I got my DHD. People complaining that they weren't happy with the loudspeaker for listening to music around the house. Why not use headphones, or a hifi system? Listening to music through the phone loudspeaker makes me think of chavvy little kids roaming the street listening to their music.
[HTC One X] Jack Barrett:
If it's like that why we have speaker at all? Because we will never use it, neither phone calls, neither music, neither youtube.

Silly comments like this make me gag.
[HTC One X] YoungAceAtlanta:
I can say the speaker sucks when the vol is up and you have high quality music with a lot of bass...
[HTC One X] guttercow:
What the hell is a Blackberry? :p
[HTC One X] federer87:
for me also the speaker has a good quality to be a smartphone....but when u plugged in the jack and the beats is enable the difference is amazing...
[HTC One X] ShyamSasi:
How to add a $300 million feature to any smartphone
[HTC One X] ste1164:
Aha :P while everyone knocks them for most things you can't fault their speakerphone performance.
[HTC One X] bigstarrynight:
Just listened to it. Really does sound crap. So the HOX isnt going to be any good as a combined source and pre-amp then. I, for a very brief time set up my SGN to do exactly that, feeding a Cyrus II amp and Tannoy 609 speakers. Now looking to replace the SGN and not too sure about the HOX.
[HTC One X] guttercow:
So after thinking the audio was great on the One X.. I have now changed stance.

It seems for me, ROM related though.

Audio was great with Leedroid.. Now Ive changed over to Renovate (great ROM) - But the audio quality is pretty bad. Every 5-10 seconds the audio crackles. A bit like dust on a record player, but a little more digital. Turning off beats does not do anything.

I may try and uninstall Beats and see what that does?
[HTC One X] BenPope:
More likely kernel related in your case

It's also widely considered that the DAC is of lower quality than some others. I'd be surprised if anybody could tell without some very high quality audio kit, though.
[HTC One X] Aidey68:
The audio isn't the best when it's playing from just the phone, the same could be said of pretty much any portable audio device without either a half decent set of headphone or docking station

When I got my HOX, it was through Vodafone, they had some deal with HTC whereby they gave the first 10,000 customers a pair of UR Beats headphones.

I'm not saying they're the best headphones, but I'm not complaining as watching a Hi Def version of Tron Legacy certainly makes a difference :D
[HTC One X] htckt:
The audio is pretty good actually, but there are software compressors and effects (limiter and Tru Bass) that alter the signal heavily.

You can remove the Tru Bass effect and ease the compressor with these tweaks if you want:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1790565
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
Apparently the DAC on the T3 version is an inferior version to what's on the S4 HOXs.

Wolfdale DAC vs Realtek DAC - http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/06/26/beats-me-why-htcs-amazing-sound-on-the-international-one-x-isnt-amazing-at-all-even-by-the-numbers/

If this has already been posted I appologise.
[HTC One X] kisokod:
Why people bothering with HOX sound? We can't expect the highest quality of sound from smartphones, even if you compare with those who has superior sound hardware, there will no big difference. my friend who claim as an audiophile has an SG3 and he felt that his SG3 sound is a little bit inferior with mine, but for me there is no dfference. It depends on the subjective perception IMHO.
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
Some people like to listen to music during their commute maybe? I listen to music on my HOX all day when I'm at work...

No sound on phones can be as good as say, that of a car's speaker system of a home audio system, it all depends on the Hardware based in the handset and the software running off it, Beats is after all just a fancy EQ. As you said for you, there is no difference, maybe it's because you're tone deaf or maybe it's just because the phone package is just.that.good!

Your friend isn't much of an Audiophile by the sounds of it to be honest... No offense.
[HTC One X] kisokod:
Well, I don't know, He claimed himself:)

I am just satisfy with my HOX in current condition, though I might root and try several custom ROMs, especially for JB, but I hope S-OFF will appear soon before I can't stand anymore:o

I heard several custom ROMs have mods for HOX sound right?
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
Yeah that's right, many ROMs will have mods for sound, but they're just EQ's that've been fiddled with.

With a bit of trial and error you can set up your own EQ yourself

Try one of these: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=music+EQ&c=apps

Or maybe even a different music player like WinAmp: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nullsoft.winamp&feature=nav_result

EQ stands for Equalizer just incase you weren't aware
[HTC One X] BenPope:
I've never heard a car that sounds good. Headphones can be much better.
[HTC One X] The-Last-Hylian:
With a set of Bang & Olufsen speakers modded into the back with a decent chipset it can sound pretty amazing.

Your own private party.
[HTC One X] slashd0t:
I tend to agree that the audio quality through headphones on the One X is terrible...I use my Nokia N9 mainly for music listening..

Paired with Shure SE535's..
[HTC One X] nikzDHD:
It's not that bad guys, for good sound you need a good set of headphones and good source files and a quality DAC/Amp. For a phone it's acceptable and for listening on a commute it's fine. I've got some mid range £150+ IEMs and all my files are either Spotify extreme quality streaming or MP3 files of 320kbps and to me it sounds decent as a commute listen. Sure it's not as good as my SGS Voodoo'd but even then most don't consider that an audiophile set up.
[HTC One X] oliseo:
Absolutely go with Power Amp. It uses its own codecs, and the FLAC codec it uses is worlds apart from the stock.
[HTC One X] @home:
+1 on that. But it still won't be a patch on the S3 for music.
[HTC One X] mahwaha:
Just read swedroid's review on galaxy s3. From their audio test results, the tegra 3 one x performed considerably better (remove spaces around the period):

swedroid . se/rightmark/galaxys3/comparison.htm

They say audio effects were off, but there's obviously some heavy eq:ing going on there. Thoughts?
[HTC One X] VaderSKN:
I tested sound quality on One X and Xperia X1, and guess what. Xperia got better sound than One X, even when Beats enabled. WTF?
[HTC One X] @home:
Yeah, I have had the One X for a few months now & have the latest update & the sounds still poor.

Mine now sat gathering dust, may try to sell soon & then call it a day with HTC.
[HTC One X] VaderSKN:
I won't sell my, I use Xperia as my main phone and I use One X as a phablet.
[HTC One X] Fatso:
I've tried almost everything to get satisfying soung.

For now i can tell, that if you get rid of this beats audio features, the sound in power amp is gooood.

I achieve tha by installing Jelly Bean (CM10). Now i can listen to my HOX.
[HTC One X] death__machine:
I do remember reading that 2.17 update has more audio "enhancements" or the sort can any "audiophile" confirm that?
[HTC One X] nikzDHD:
I use the audio mod which improves the quality. Try it out it works well.
[HTC One X] death__machine:
I'm happy with the sound man :). But I've heard good things about that mod.

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Its mentioned "Upgrades to Beats Audio"

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...brings-recent-apps-button-remapping-and-more/
[HTC One X] @home:
Nope it's still poor, the dac must be kak, no amount of software will fix it.
[HTC One X] Fatso:
Any amount of soft just killing SQ. So less is better in this case. Dac isn't kak. Just get rid of "all sound improvments"
[HTC One X] @home:
Sorry matey but even with all sound improvements of it sounds awful. DAC is kak.

Sold mine now & not missing it one bit
[HTC One X] flummi3000:
Try neutron player, best there is! You will be pleased...

Gesendet von meinem HTC One X
[HTC One X] @home:
I sold my one x