yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] micku7zu:
Some mirror? Dev-Host is down (download page is working, but download link to file is temporary down)

Edit: Dev-Host is back online :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] _Logie:
I liked this ROM since the first time I seen the screenshots. The name also makes me like it.

Once it's a bit more stable I will definitely give this a chance at being my daily runner. I'm on the scout for a new daily ROM after reverting back to pure stock.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dark_knight35:
Just realised that you're the maker of reloaded ICS :).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sanoc69:
i want this rom im my SII
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sammyservices:
Please tell me if this is ICS or a new stuff altogether ? Sorry for my ignorance.

Thanks !
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] filchi756:
Install this Rom ,still have bugs ie..persistent turning on of GPS and bluetooth when going to setting menu and reboots normally when trying to reboot to recovery.but will monitor this Rom and install again when the bugs are eliminated.

P.S. Been monitoring you reloaded ICS for almost 2 months for updates but you've stopped the development of it.Thankfully your doing one for Samsung Galaxy S:D, will wait for a stable version.

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CM9 ICS (read the OP)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Thejungle:
nvm

Great work!!!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Lurdy:
How's battery life? :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] KiRAdot47:
the salad bar is very nice, but there are still some "major" bugs like bt and gps reactivating, and it feels a little laggy....

will try another time later, when the rom reaches its maturity

good job so far :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 0ftal:
will test
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] hkalman:
Good work, but i have a problem with 3g.

I select the mobile operator, but the APN list is empty. Can i use the 3g function if i found the good APN settings for t-mobile hungary? is this works?

-------------------------------------------------------

I found the solution.

T-mobile Hungary APN settings (maybe somebody can use this information too):

Inernet APN

Név web’n’walk

APN wnw

Proxy <not set>

Port <not set>

Felhasználónév <not set>

Jelszó <not set>

Szerver <not set>

MMS-központ <not set>

MMS proxy <not set>

MMS port <not set>

MCC 216 (honos hálózat esetén autómatikusan kitöltésre kerül)

MNC 30 (honos hálózat esetén autómatikusan kitöltésre kerül)

Hitelesítés típusa PAP

Hozzáférési pont típusa default,supl (gyárilag ez szerepel, de utólag létrehozott profil esetén, a listából az internet lehetőséget válassza)

MMS APN

Név T-Mobile MMS

APN mms

Proxy <not set>

Port <not set>

Felhasználónév mms

Jelszó mms

Szerver <not set>

MMS-központ http : / / mms.t-mobile.hu/servlets/mms

MMS proxy 212.051.126.010

MMS port 8080

MCC 216 (honos hálózat esetén autómatikusan kitöltésre kerül)

MNC 30 (honos hálózat esetén autómatikusan kitöltésre kerül)

Hitelesítés típusa PAP

Hozzáférésipont-név típusa mms

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How can i add widgets to home screen? Tap the screen doesn't works.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] NeoNikon:
Is this your first ics rom? You go to app drawer, there's a widget menu there... like in every ics rom ..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dave71670:
Restored efs file and still no apn showing and won't let me create one.

Edit:Rebooted and this time it let me save manually entered apn.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] F.West98:
I can't come in recovery mode. It shows the kernel loading, 1ms a screen and directly it's rebooting to normal. I can't get the navigation mode off...

What's wrong?

edit:

After reboot Bluetooth is on by default, even if I turn it off
[Nexus 7 General] bleclair:
Because they'd keep watching prices on eBay and probably have a bid in like me? :D But with less than 6gb free? Nope. Not even tempted, especially for the prices they're going at!

Now if it was a 16gb model with HDMI, I'd pay close to what I paid for my Tab 7.7. (Which the value has dropped drastically on. Had it on eBay, and it ended for $340 in like new shape. Glad I had a reserve. Might have to cancel my Nexus 7 preorder if I come to my senses.)
[Nexus 7 General] rushless:
I respect everybody's choice and product likes, but I refuse out of principle to buy this cloud hugging device, but look forward to the T370, if released. It would be my 300s mini-me.
[Nexus 7 General] bleclair:
I would cancel my Nexus 7 preorder immediately after learning about no microsd, OTG or video out, but, but Jellybean (and a faster processor). :(

My poor Tab 7.7 doesn't even have ICS yet, and I'm not even sure how much that will help with the Touchwizzed interface. I'd be happy with it if it was a bit faster...
[Nexus 7 General] pack21:
Google gives only 8gb model at Google I/O.....to challenge the Devs to open the OTG and HDMI supports.

Was a good thing for the whole community.
[Nexus 7 General] bballer71418:
I don't think people understand what the term "devs" are. Google doesn't care about people who build roms for our phones. The "devs" that attend I/O and the "devs" I/O is actually put on for, are app developers.
[Nexus 7 General] sparksco:
This is true but a lot of these "app developers" are also rom devs ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jujudeshighlands:
Hi Moto guys :)

I bought this RAZR. It is a GSM one without operator customizing.

I rooted it normally and tried to update to ICS leak (this one if I remember well).

It didn't work.

Anyway I downgrade back to Gingerbread and tried to flash in recovery the MIUI V4 zip.

It bootlooped.

So I wanted by the same way to downgrade to 2.3.6 again.

It was a fail.

From this, I had the flash failure screen at the beginning and lost the recovery.

Because of a "Battery Low" I made a factory cable and I can access again to the "flash failure" screen.

I found a tuto relating to the same problem than me and tried to apply it.

I downloaded this rom (SPDREM_U_01.6.5.1-167_SPU-15-M2-1-DE_1C.91P_0A.6C_TMDE_CFC_HWp2b_SIGNED.xml.zip) as explained and tried to flash it in RSD lite.

The problem is:

I have no error message, it just stays stuck on "6/11 flash system "system_signed".

I let it several hours, it never passed away this step.

With "Eternityprj_Fla**** script it's the same, it's blocked at "system writing..."

I don't really know if I'm considered to be on ICS or GB. My bootloader version is 0A.75 so I guess ICS one.

Any idea to reanimate this XT910?

Thanks for the help you could bring to me :)

P.S: I tried these roms since the first fail

-SPDREM_U_01.6.5.1-167_SPU-15-M2-1-DE_1C.91P_0A.6C_TMDE_CFC_HWp2b_SIGNED.zip

-SPDREM_U_01.6.5.1-167_SPU-15-M2-1-FR_SIGNEuropeAustraliaEMEA_USASPDRRTFR_HWp2b_Service1FF_fastboot.xml.zip

-SPDREM_U_01.6.5.1-73_SPU-11-PASS-10_SIGNEuropeAustraliaEMEA_USASPDRRTGB_HWp2b_Service1FF_fastboot.xml.zip

-SPDREM_U_01.6.5.1-167_SPU-15-M2-3_SIGNEuropeAustraliaEMEA_USASPDRRTGB_HWp2b_Service1FF_fastboot.xml.zip
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jujudeshighlands:
Since I use XP in a VIRTUALBOX machine, I have an icon with activity on device.

During this operation, the activity on the phone is important

As it is to this step, no activity...

I tried with normal fastboot executable from SDK and erpj-fastboot.exe, no difference.

Is it possible I make something wrong with my factory cable?

I don't think so because it makes my phone booting as I plug it and it writes normally boot.img for example with fastboot.

Your help would be appreciated very much guys ^^

Thanks!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jujudeshighlands:
Solved!

I can't explain why but I managed to access recovery even if system flash with fastboot never ended.

I flashed ICS rom and it booted well.

So it's solved even if I can't give explanations.

Thanks anyway.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mighkey:
flash fails...repeatedly

This has been covered extensively, but mine is still screwed up, i rooted the phone with clockwork mod. When the official ICS cam eout, i tried to manually download it. I have unrooted the phone and tried to install ics, it failed. So i tried flashing back to factory because clockwork was still popping up on boot. The flash continues to fail. I have tried using moto-fastboot in command prompt, i ha tried rsd lite with the flash(4 different ones). It keeps failing and i end up in the ap fastboot mode. it takes 2 tries to get the phone to boot normally and occasionally the clockwork boot menu pops up on reboot. Any ideas how to just start from scratch. As seen by the problems i have caused myself, i am a complete amateur here.

A little info, the phone is about 8 months old, rooted it once successfully, it is currently unrooted(i tried to reroot but got hung up in ap fastboot), updated drivers twice, moved the flash files all arounf my computer, using windows 7 64 bit. thanks to anyone who may help
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sevenup30:
Ok ok ok...

if i have an advice, before flashing, read read & read again.

So now.

Give me more info about your phone(xt910 / xt912 / europe / asia / latam /usa ) ??

Can you rsd to system_signed, or flash it manually through fastboot ?

When you installed ics manually which error did you have?

If you can, try to flash system_signed then reflash the OTA package with official recovery & wipe data. But i guess it wont work. For now i can't help you more without more info.

So tell me all you can and write it clear.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sonicfishcake:
Or try this through rsd lite or fla**** http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=28199183
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sevenup30:
yes, now ics fastboot file is out, you can easily fastboot to get back.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mighkey:
it is usa...i am downloading the ics fastboot now. I have tried the fastboot method with the latest gingerbread build, and also using the command prompt and flash commands....will let you know

thanks
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mighkey:
Flash failed right away....how do i know i have the correct drivers? any other ideas?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] evonc:
I had the same issue when attempting to flash. Make sure you switch to a usb 2.0 port.

After that find the moto-fastboot package and then flash all the files manually using moto-fastboot instead of regular fastboot.

You have to do that for every single file. The file names are in the xml in the fastboot file.
[HTC Wildfire S] Akhil137:
i have just rooted my wildfire s a510e and i want to install ICS in it. i tryed so many rom's but does't work properly tell me what to do nd also provide me to install rom
[HTC Wildfire S] sukhjit321:
Do you have clockwork recovery installed??

First download the CM9 Alpha 3 zip from here. Also download GoogleApps.

> Put it in SD card.

> Go to recovery mode.

> Wipe data/factory reset.

>Wipe davlik cache in advanced settings.

> Wipe battery stats.

> Select Install from zip.

>Find the CM9 zip and flash it.

> Again install the zip, find gapps zip and flash it.

> reboot.

> You are done. It may take some 5 -6 minutes to boot up at first.. Should work without any problem.
[HTC Wildfire S] Akhil137:
thanks it really workd... thanks a lot :laugh:
[HTC Wildfire S] jsthorpe:
Glad that you managed to root your Wildfire S! Not the easiest phone to root, I'm sure you'll agree.

I'm currently using AOKP Build 38, which is Android 4.0.4, on my Wildfire S. Great ROM, fast, highly customisable, only problem is the camera does not work, but from what I can gather, this should be fixed soon.

Anyway, enjoy your device!
[HTC Wildfire S] Akhil137:
can u provide me AOKP Build 38 link?? nd ya i agree its not easiest phone to root.. nd is there any way to use HTC sense in it.. nd automatically install some basic application like facebook, maps etc..
[HTC Wildfire S] sharingan92:
link to AOKP build 38

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1624525
[HTC Wildfire S] Akhil137:
is it works fine?? and everything works in it?? :confused:
[HTC Wildfire S] sukhjit321:
Nope Every other person is having sim card registration problems. The only reason why Im not using it..
[HTC Wildfire S] Akhil137:
oh.. ok but any way to use HTC sense in CM9 Alpha 3 :confused: :confused:
[HTC Wildfire S] jsthorpe:
I'm not having any SIM problems, I'm T-Mobile UK. Just the camera doesn't work, but from what I can gather, that's fixable.
[HTC Wildfire S] sukhjit321:
Cyanogen Mod is known as Sense less mod.

If you need sense you might wanna install a sense 3.5 ROM or Sense 2.1 ROM but unfortunately they will be with gingerbread.

There is no Sense ICS rom for our WFS till now.

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I guess Asian users are having these problems. So far all Indian user reported that the ROM can't register the sim. :X
[HTC Wildfire S] sharingan92:
the sim card problem only happens with certain versions of the WFS and certain carriers
[HTC Wildfire S] Akhil137:
Is there any way to create ur own rom?? if yes then how? tell me step by step nd what i need for it.. :confused::confused:
[HTC Wildfire S] sukhjit321:
See index.
[HTC Wildfire S] Akhil137:
Daaahhh... It's not in it..
[HTC Wildfire S] omnomnomkimiiee:
That's not something you'll be able to learn in a few hours :sly:

-----------

"You can overclock as much as you want, your phone will always seem too slow."
[HTC Wildfire S] sukhjit321:
+1 to what he said.

BTW May i suggest some playing around with existing ROMs before you try to cook one for yourself.

Just a personal advice coz it helps to know what problems the ROMs are having. Be advanced in flashing ROM and fixing bugs then move to next level.
[HTC Wildfire S] dodzdentoz:
What about Mobile Data , Is it working ? :)
[HTC Wildfire S] sukhjit321:
Yes.
[HTC Wildfire S] Akhil137:
Tell me when it will get fixed...
[HTC Wildfire S] sukhjit321:
it is working!
[HTC Wildfire S] (jp):
yes

yes
[HTC Wildfire S] krackedman:
I'm on aokp mileston 5, i'm having sim card problems :(
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] LogiBird:
This is a software for typing persian in windows phone 7.5 (Mango), Also it is much fuller, applicable and easier to use than other similar programs.

Type in both Persian and English

​

Support different phone orientations (horizontal and vertical)

​

Copy text with tap to select word or double-tap to select all text

​

Special keyboard to type 39 smilies

​

Equipped with all the letters and important mathematical symbols

​

With counting the number of letters and SMSs

The possibility of moving cursor with arrow-keys or tap & hold

The possibility of muting tap-sound

Send SMS, search and EMail texts

http://www.logibird.com/EN

http://windowsphone.com/s?appid=4824f3f3-2353-46f5-960b-9e5dd0dc237e​
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
Suppose that I do the following command from windows:

adb shell cat /sdcard/myfile.zip > c:\file.zip

The result is that the two files don't match, even they have much different file size. Using 'adb pull' works but is not compatible with pipelining or fifos.

Any help?

EDITED: here is the solution:

NOTE: you have to use unix paths with cygwin, not DOS ones. Use cygpath to convert:

cygpath -u "C:\your path\folder\archive"
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Depau:
Thanks man, you saved my life! I just deleted some pictures from my Nexus 7 and I had to find a way to dump the internal storage to my computer in order to use it with PhoroRec...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phatboyj420:
can't seem to get the -- progress part to work it kicks back error of invalid command

" adb forward tcp:5555 tcp:5555 "

" adb shell "

" su "

" busybox nc 127.0.0.1 5555 | dd of=C:\Users\PB-2\Desktop\GN-3_MJ5_Full.raw.img bs=4096 "

After inputting the last line I get:

: cannot open for write: Read-only file system

any Ideas? I don't understand how my pc desktop could be read only

Thanks in Advance
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
You can't use DOS paths on cygwin, you have to use unix ones:

busybox nc 127.0.0.1 5555 | dd of=/cygdrive/c/Users/PB-2/Desktop/GN-3_MJ5_Full.raw.img bs=4096

You can convert any DOS path to unix with cygpath if you don't figure out directly (even on other drives):

cygpath -u "C:\Users\PB-2\Desktop\GN-3_MJ5_Full.raw.img"

Result:

/cygdrive/c/Users/PB-2/Desktop/GN-3_MJ5_Full.raw.img
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phatboyj420:
Awesome Thanks,

I'm assuming this is true in both cd & dd via cygwin?

I was originally trying to input the commands in DOS because your OP doesn't specify, or say to use cygwin.

I came to the realization of using cygwin after reading other guides.

I've been looking at some of your other guides I owe You many thanks as a Result
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
Yes, since cygwin is to be compatible with unix scripts paths must be always in unix format.

You can use dos paths directly

cd `cygpath -u "C:\your path\folder\archive"`

I've updated the first post
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phatboyj420:
Awesome share Thanks

I still can't get this to work "for the life of me" I know, I now have cygwin setup right, as it works with your example here
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
Are you still getting "cannot open for write"?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phatboyj420:
Nope you set me strait on that one

In the first window I do

" adb forward tcp:5555 tcp:5555 "

" adb shell "

" su "

" system/xbin/busybox nc –l –p 5555 –e dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0 bs=4096 "

and get the usage response

BusyBox v1.22.1-Stericson (2014-01-25 17:27:18 CET) multi-call binary.

Usage: nc [-iN] [-wN] [-l] [-p PORT] [-f FILE|IPADDR PORT] [-e PROG]

Open a pipe to IP:PORT or FILE

-l Listen mode, for inbound connects
(use -ll with -e for persistent server)
-p PORT Local port
-w SEC Connect timeout
-i SEC Delay interval for lines sent
-f FILE Use file (ala /dev/ttyS0) instead of network
-e PROG Run PROG after connect

If I trade out the string from your other example here, " The only problem i'm having with your other example is that I can't specify the " bs=4096 " "

I can get through to the second window

Example

PB-2@PB-2-PC ~
$ adb forward tcp:5555 tcp:5555

PB-2@PB-2-PC ~
$ adb shell
shell@hlteatt:/ $ su
su
root@hlteatt:/ # /system/xbin/busybox nc -l -p 5555 -e /system/xbin/busybox dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0 bs=4096
555 -e /system/xbin/busybox dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0 bs=4096 <

The second terminal then gives me an error at the last string

Output of second terminal

PB-2@PB-2-PC ~
$ adb forward tcp:5555 tcp:5555

PB-2@PB-2-PC ~
$ nc 127.0.0.1 5555 | dd of=/cygdrive/c/Users/PB-2/Desktop/GN-3_Tmp/mmcblk0.raw bs=4096 -- progress
dd: unrecognized operand `progress'
Try `dd --help' for more information.

If I run it with out, " -- progress " it runs but with-out the desired effect of the progress response

PB-2@PB-2-PC ~
$ adb forward tcp:5555 tcp:5555

PB-2@PB-2-PC ~
$ nc 127.0.0.1 5555 | dd of=/cygdrive/c/Users/PB-2/Desktop/GN-3_Tmp/mmcblk0.raw bs=4096

I'm at a loss I need to figure out how to run the pv and the dd of= in the same line i guess

or to some how combine

" nc 127.0.0.1 5555 | dd of=/cygdrive/c/Users/PB-2/Desktop/GN-3_Tmp/mmcblk0.raw bs=4096 "

&

" nc 127.0.0.1 5555 | pv -i 0.5 > /cygdrive/c/Users/PB-2/Desktop/GN-3_Tmp/mmcblk0.raw "

So as to achieve both the bs= & the Read-out notification

Thanks tremendously, for your assistance thus far.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
That's right, some android implementations of dd lack advanced parameters. You can try either installing Busybox from Stericson or just skip the bs option.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
Removed all the "bs=4096" from quotations in first post, since it's not needed at all.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpirnie:
I keep getting

write error: File too large, when trying to dump my /data partition to my external sd card.

The external card is exFat formatted, which is supposed to be able to handle larger than 4Gig files

here's my command

busybox dd if/dev/block/mmcblk0p29 of=/mnt/extSdCard/data.ext4.img

any ideas?

p.s. yes, I do have more than 4G's of software on my phone :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
Two ideas:

1 - Try from recovery

2 - If that doesn't work put the sd into a card reader and connect it as otg drive.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpirnie:
I can try from recovery sure, but how would #2 solve the issue? (don't know what otg drive means)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
Search google images for otg
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpirnie:
didnt work. I get the same issue

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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
Format a pendrive in NTFS or HFS+ and connect it to your phone via OTG, if it's not detected directly there are some apps on play store.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpirnie:
NTFS worked. My data partition is over 8Gigs! But I was under the impression that exFat was able to support that... but I guess not...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
Next time you can try copying some big data to the exfat from the computer itself, just to see if prompts some error.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpirnie:
tried that too :) had a 9.7g dvd imaage i tried with and it failed at the 4g mark. ext4 should be the standard ;)

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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
Ext4 is almost incompatible with any car player or tv or anything like that. You can format your pendrive in ext4 and see if android recognizes it!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpirnie:
I know. and no android did not recognize it. I tried utilizing ext4 and an sdcard before as storage and it did not work... which personally doen't make much sense to me, because the system partitions are almost all ext4 except storage... and I'm able to read those in Root Explorer... but ehh, whatever :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
It looks like ext is not auto-mounted, so guess using the mount command will work just fine.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpirnie:
but how to do it on boot? i have yet to find fstab...

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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
Look at /etc/vold.fstab and /fstab.*
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpirnie:
Ill have to wait until I get my 64g card ;)

plans are half and half. 1 being ext4 ;)

let me get yur opinion on this... internal nand... faster or slower that a class10/UHS1 sdcard?

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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scandiun:
No idea. Since it's not SSD, no major differences.