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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Krshaw18:
First off, whoever said the new iPad is worse than the Notes screen and the the iPad is terrible is insane. I own both, love both but the new iPads screen is immaculate. (Own it because I am an app indie app developer, <start self promotion> Hooked on Words in the app store #1 word game, coming soon to Android </end self promotion> :-)

Now back to the thread. I understand where the OP is coming from, but it isn't Samsung specific its Android in general. I have owned Android devices from each device maker and its always the same. I have always thought Android to be more of a OS for tech minded people and developers because of how open it (and the almost necessity to root flash and customize to find what makes the phone perfectly work for YOU). Other devices are better with updates and ease of use but Android is what you make it. Its an OS and behavior defined by the user in my opinion. If you rather not do all of these things get a WinMo device or Apple. But complaining to Samsung won't do anything. I personally think that Stock GB on the Note is far better than any other device, but ICS is definitely lacking. Till then I will mod the hell outta this LQ2 till it feels perfect to ME.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] aftnoon2:
+1!

Stock....rooted GB. It's more laggy than the S2, but I can stand it. By the way, it's not easy to find a GB Custom ROM now... Just a matter of "Archeology"! :-D

I also think that the entire Android world (not only Sammy) must take much more care of current costumers, rather than try to win more & more new ones.

But, how do you make this possible with versions which go from Eclair to ICS -JB all out there at same time?

Yes: it's Crazy! :eek:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] NotablyNice:
Ipad screen sucks
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ATRIXXIRTA:
Starting a thread like this IS being constructive. The more people read this, the more likely people will avoid Samsung, the less money they'll make, and the likely hood of them working harder to redeem themselves and their products will increase. Its funny how people come on here and COMPLAIN about COMPLAINING, lol. Its not like this guy is trolling another thread. He made this thread SPECIFICALLY to complain about Samsung. And then you assholes come on here and COMPLAIN about COMPLAINERS!!!! That's the very definition if a hypocrite. If you disagree with the OP, fine, but don't be a retard, come up with something constructive.

IOS is just as bad on battery as ANY android device going. You have to remember that with android, there are literally HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of devices running the firmware. There is only ONE iPhone, which makes updates easy as pie. But, if you wanna be a drone in a heard of faceless sheep, be my guest and go for an iOS device.

I'm happy to be a "Flash Test Dummy!"

LONG LIVE ANDROID!!!! lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Mystic38:
If you are entitled to complain, others are entitled to complain about complaining...

You clearly have zero idea about multinational business operations... so i gave you the constructive advice you were looking for... SAMSUNG DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU so get rid of the phone and find something else to fill your vacant life.

..and keep your pathetic and childish insults to yourself..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ATRIXXIRTA:
And who the f*** are you? President of multinational business operations for Samsung?? NOOO!!

Your somebody who trolls threads to start arguments. Your probably some snot nosed teenager who thinks using big words like "multinational" are going to impress people. Sorry to say your vocabulary isn't impressing anyone.

The OP was just talking about HIS experiences and HIS opinions. Rather than pretending to be someone who knows what they're talking about, just start your own thread, with your own opinions, and keep the "complaining about complaining" over there, on your own thread.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] letters_to_cleo:
I agree, the world is too full of whiners already that when tend to forget if we do have a means to act to resolve the problem? or just sit back and whine all day long.

If you need to address your issue, go directly to the source and blast him /her of your complains... If they don't listen, then move on. Throw away their products and find something else worth of your liking.

I just find people too sissies to always complain but not doing anything about it. Your given a will to choose.. If it doesn't fit to your tee, then pack up and move on. Don't leave any whining around.

In life, let me tell you...only those people who succeed in life are those that looks behind, learns from it (on the mess they did), and looks forward, moving on, on a positive note..

that something and somehow, good things will eventually come at the end of it.

P.S.

I rest my case.. people just doesn't seem to look at a bigger picture that somehow amidst off of these.. you can make a change.

That is what some of the 'Complainers of the complain' are trying to point at.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] LaGeek:
We dont have a zero idea about how multi national businesses work. Some corps obviously do care about their LATEST hardware or even one generation before, and sure, its their business to make money, but it is in their interest to ALSO keep those customers happy(yes I am currently talking about Apple). This is not some Galaxy S I am complaining about. I am complaining about the Samsung Note, which was their latest and greatest, and is now their second latest and greatest. I waited for a month even after the ICS update to come and complain about it cause I thought they would finally own up and fix it. Its not that they have thousands of devices to test, do they? I would certainly like to think this discussion helped someone, because I was going to get an S2 and did not, just because other people were complaining on xda about the S and even the S2 updates. Later, I figured Samsung must have gotten better with updates, which they did. But delivering horribly broken updates, yeah sure.

If you dont want to read the thread, a simple solution is to not even come here and comment on it:) The fact that you keep coming back itself says something, doesnt it? Complain about complaints, and that too the first darned one I have called out in over a year I have been here.

Samsung has the time to organize app contests here on xda, hire folks who are active, so obviously, they are active to some extent. I was hoping someone at xda gives them some information about what real users think. Whether they do something or not, is not in my hands. I have another friend who is not a technophile, and whom I convinced to get the Note. He went back to using his iphone 4 after the update and is now selling the Note, and will get the 5. So Samsung might not listen now, but I really hope when it hits their bottomline, they will. And lets keep the iOS sucks blah out of this. Thats not what I am here to discuss.

On my side, I will wait and see how other vendors shape up. I want my phone to be working for atleast a damned year and a half with updates without going through so much pain to get some decent battery and get things like a camera to work reliably on such good hardware. After that, if I have to upgrade, so be it.

Ill start a petition. If people choose to sign it, great, if not, cant do anything other than that.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] martcerv:
No device is perfect and the beauty of it is there are plenty to choose from but some of you may just prefer this.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ATRIXXIRTA:
Amen!!!! :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] GocaS6:
I figure out that even tough Android is far best OS in mobile world it's laggy. It just is.

It's not Note's fault. Or any Galaxy series phone. These micro lags are eating my guts, even AOSP is laggy, it just is. Even SGSIII is laggy. And i'm a long time flasher and Android user but i must admit these mother****ers from Samsung are god damn fools.

All this hardbricking story, black cliping, etc etc and no one even bother to answer or help in any way.

It's not whining i love Samsung but they dont love us, and that's a damn fact :cool:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ATRIXXIRTA:
Its true! It really is. Although, I had a chance to play with a nexus with jelly bean in it, and it was snappy as hell!! Made iOS look laggy. Its for sure a step in the right direction. Hopefully it gets pushed out faster than ics for christ sake!! lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Strategist:
I can understand some of the disappointment here but for the most part I am still really happy with the Galaxy Note.

Overall I am pleased with ICS. Yes there are occasional battery issues but they are usually caused by misbehaving apps. Otherwise ICS, at least on my phone, seems stable and smooth. Let's not forget that OS updates often cause problems; I still see threads where people are complaining about battery issues on iOS 5.1.

And while Samsung may have taken its time with ICS, let's not forget that it's given us a lot of free goodies: S-Note has some brilliant features like formula-match and I certainly appreciate the free promotions of apps like RipTide.

At the same time it's good to put pressure on Samsung. They should realize that high-information users like those on XDA can be excellent evangelists for its products. I certainly would like there to be some pressure on Samsung to produce a Jelly Bean update for the Note reasonably quickly. Realistically I don't think Samsung pays a lot of attention to online criticism but at the margins it could make a difference.

Bottom line: The Note has a few flaws but it's still the best product in the market. Hopefully Samsung will make it even better with reliable OS updates and build a truly loyal user base.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] cyberpingu:
I was on your very same situation: stock ICS LPY with 19 emmc firmware. These are the steps I followed:

1) I downloaded Franco's kernel (version 3+ is ok since it contains the workaround to make the brickbug not be triggered), and unzipped it till I arrived to the zImage. Then I put the zImage into the SD card;

2) I downloaded the last CM9 nightly & Gapps and I copied them into the SD card;

3) I fired up mobile odin pro and I chose just the Franco's zImage & flashed;

4) I rebooted the phone and checked phone's infos to be sure that franco's kernel was loaded;

5) I rebooted into recovery, wiped everything, flashed CM9's nightly and then flashed Gapps

6) Rebooted and voilà.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] aftnoon2:
And what the f..ck the complainers it's supposed must do??

To take a bazooka and go to the next Samsung big shop and shoot it?

Come on, don't make me laugh to death...

I know people here in Spain who has wrote about this question on the Samsung's Fbook wall, and their message was deleted.

We've not payed 500€ for this, sorry. And many of us don't have the time and/or the desire of searching-flashing a good custom Rom.

Maybe are you rich people, you, "complainers about complainers"?

I think you're more or less like us...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Rotry83:
I also feel very disappointed with Samsung. It seems incredible that the policy it uses.

In my blog I wrote my opinion on this topic. This Spanish. http://rotry.blogspot.com.es/2012/06/reflexion-personal-o-no.html
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Mystic38:
"keep" coming back?.. I came back ONCE ... you are pretty symptomatic of this thread, wild exaggeration and over the top responses.

Regardless, you simply didnt consider that responding to a pathetic post by some nonentity throwing insults had nothing to do with me coming back? :rolleyes:, and you pile on too.. so that says a lot about you.

There are things worth getting upset about in life... and this simply is not one of them.. you all need tossing in the total perspective vortex..(google it)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] letters_to_cleo:
:laugh: Yeah bud, we are More or less like you so chill.. :D

There are no perfect devices to date that's a given fact. Every devices has own flaws and faults.

I do agree that Sammy's ineptness and high handedness in dismissing on flaws that every products they've release is something we can agree on... But, don't you think every manufacturers out there has this high handed ness also? Not just Sammy alone, we are talking of Sammy's competitors.... take for example - HTC... HTC's ONE-X has their own qualms and flaws as well...and it's very much discerning to all HOX users what the flaws on their phone... and yes they too complain, but did HTC ever stated an official statement admitting and recognizing the flaws? NO they did not. It is not in the best interest of a company to ever acknowledge the flaws/faults in their product. For again, the goal of high capital interest.

My point in this is that, if your in Motorola, HTC, LG, HUAWEI, Apple's thread right now.. you would still whine at their products. You complain because of this and that, yet you just sit and type and type your whine here much WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

Yeah, sure you gain a lot of sympathy on people who are in the same boat as you are... but the ultimate question is... DOES IT CHANGE ANYTHING at the end of day???

NO! it doesn't change anything. Well you gain supporters and sympathizers for your cause.. I guess that's about it...

But would it be much nicer if your words on this thread are put into action?? Would it be much to write your congressman or your senator and put a massive class petition for Samsung to check their Quality of their products next time they release it in the market? Or you can go the Better Business Bureau and file a case about Samsung's haphazard way of releasing defective products. Or more importantly.. Go to the Media..gather a lot of people and speak out so that Samsung's would ultimately notice and listen to you all....

Again, I am not bashing the OP's thread. I am merely saying.. what you type in words about complaining isn't going to do anything at all unless you make a collective effort to do something about it.

If Sammy dismisses your pleas.. then MOVE ON!, for GOD's sake! it is just a device, and yeah its $500 dollar phone. But then, it's already there.. Either you shove it to the horses mouth or just pack it up and move on.

So people, I agree on you in all of these... make your complains into action. Whatever action you do, at least you made an effort of it.

That's all that matters to it.

:good:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] heavyharmonies:
This.

I love my Note... but I also love my iPad 3, specifically for the screen. It blows away every other device out there. Sure the iUniverse is a pain in the ass, and one can condemn the iPad for weight, size, thickness, whatever, but the only people I have ever seen claiming the iPad 3 screen "sucks" have been trolls.

How iPads got into a phone conversation is beyond me; it's an apples and bowling balls comparison.

Anyway, to bring things back around, I recently updated my International Note to ICS, and I really fail to see what the allure/big deal about ICS is. I'm not a rooter/hacker, so I pretty much stick with stock everything. The phone is a bit more sluggish under ICS than with GB. Haven't seen any major change in battery life though.

Overall, the upgrade to ICS (in my opinion and for my purposes) has been a sidegrade at best and a downgrade at worst.

Since I'm not seeing any major issues, I'll stick with it for now until Jellybean comes out and re-examine at that time.

Regarding the WAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE on how suxxors Samsung is, I've seen a lot of variability reported, both here and on other fora, as to the speed, responsiveness, camera, and battery life on the Note. Some people report not being able to touch-to-focus on the camera and/or horrendous shutter lag... I see neither issue on my phone. Different manufacturing batches maybe?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chickentuna:
you can say whatever you want on how Samsung sucks, how they are cheap ETC.. but regardless of how cheap they are I won't trade Samsung over Apple. Why? Simply bec. the iDevices are too expensive. Samsung produces much powerful phones at a very reasonable price. Just an opinion from an Android/Samsung fanboy lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] martcerv:
For those of you bagging on Samsung and praising the Ipad3 screen should maybe investigate who makes that screen. I will give you a hint its not Apple and begins with "S" ending with "ung" lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] NotablyNice:
Ipad sucks majorally. Get over it
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ATRIXXIRTA:
Hahahhaha. Yap. Apple uses samsungs parts!!!!! Lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] finbaar:
I love my Note. I love Samsung for creating the Note. It is the best phone on the market. And I love CM9.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] wesley29:
Yeah, I am also disappointed with the poor battery life of the Samsung ICS upgrade, having to recharge way too often. I also thought that they would release further updates like they did with Gingerbread to fix the bugs, but they haven't. Another small gripe is the calculator app which cannot subtract percentages correctly like 100 — 90% doesn't get 10. This is the same on my previous Galaxy too.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] CGI_Ram:
I'm with you.

I don't pretend to know all the aspects of fragmentation; but device maker add-ons and carrier tweaks seem to be the root of our problems.

Google also releases new versions too quickly, IMO. They should bake them longer and make the changes more significant and something the device makers can keep up with. Instead... while we wait for ICS there is already JB coming out.

I don't know... as a user; it feels like nobody is in charge. Google? Samsung? Carriers?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ATRIXXIRTA:
Agreed! ICS was a rush job. It should have just gone from GB to JB. seems like ICS could have been avoided all together. I think they used it as a test build, to see what works, what doesn't, and what needs changing, before releasing JB.

Let's hope JB get pushed out faster then ICS!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Tom-Helge:
I do agree that Samsung have their issues with their smartphones.

But there is something i just need to LOL hard to. You say Samsung is crap and all of that because they have some issues. Well, good fking luck on finding another smartphone from another brand that doesn't have any issues or big issues.

No matter what smartphone you get, you will ALWAYS come over some issues.

So what it is really all about, is to choose the smartphone with the hardware you like, with the UI customization you like from the brand and to choose the design you like the best and so on.

I did choose the Samsung Galaxy Note because of it's hardware, design and software that comes with the phone.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] aftnoon2:
Agree!

So, as an user, as a 2 years user... I'm beginning to understand what it's wrong with Android. Talking about the "beta world" which is all the Google world...

All is "beta".

On Gmail app, this is not important. But on an S O like Android, this is strategic. You can't take millions of generic users as beta-users!

The worst, is that Google knows that. Many bloggers talked already about that.

How do you try to stop a bulldozer?

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AlexProfesor:
"let he who is without sin, cast the first stone".

Samsung made mistakes? Yes, certainly big ones. Tipically, the bigger you are, the bigger the mistake. If I mispell a word in a tech paper for my students, a couple hundred people may suffer from an inaccuracy. If Samsung does it... well, that's a different story.

All phones have bugs. Even Apple phones. Don't forget about the antena-gate when the Iphone 4g was first launched. They knew of this! Steve Jobs was even told of this by his engineers, but in his lifetime, he rarely listened to them. And he screw it badly with Iphone 4g. Anyway, he faced the problem in a rather different manner. He didn't apologise. He said basically, what I'm saying: "yes, it has a problem, so what? all phones have problems". And Apple stock raised (and the demand for Iphones DOUBLED). If anything, Jobs had steel balls. You have to admire that. Even if it let you down.

At some point of life, every company will let you down. If you shut them out, you will end up with... nothing. They are all very similar, and make the same mistakes, and sometimes break promises...

As consumers, we have the right to be angry of course, and claim for what is right, and defend our interest. I do that. We must all do it! But do not go as far as to say you'll never buy a Samsung product again. Angry denial is almost as useless as blind fanaticism. If a company mistakes, shout, complain, speak your mind aloud! If tomorrow, that same company, makes a better product, the best of its kind... forget about anything, and just buy it, and enjoy it. There are no alliances, there is no fanaticism. Treat the companies that produce tour gadgets like you treat lovers. Today you love it, tomorrow perhaps you hate it, a couple of years later you are back with it ; )
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
well just think.. how many ppl buys samsung products? erm millions around the world.. If they were providing defective or bad products I think an massive amount of ppl complaining around the world would have demand and close the company time ago... I think you belong to the acceptable defective statistics.. Every manufacturer test 10 out of 100 products... And that's a high qc Standart so There is a small percentage of ppl like you or some others whom will get a defective device..

Other wise the forums would be full of ppl complaining about it and that's not the case... I like Android cause I can do everything I can do with a laptop and more and the customization its awesome.. I had blackberry, iphone, nokia, Motorola, HTC and the best so far are the samsung devices... well I know they released a bug in the kernel but heck do you think they did it on purpose? as you can read not everyone with the non safe kernel will get bricked by wiping the device and as I told you they test 10 out of every 100 products... so if they get 30/40 bricked phones out of 1000 that's not a big problem and they needed to release the update... the bricks could be related to many stuff and 30/40 phones out of 1k was a risk they took...

Before I complaint about something I always keep in mind several stuff... 1-If a baby can born defective why a device can't? lol... 2-Did I read enough about the device and the manufacturer before the purchase?, 3-can I fix myself in case I need it?... 4-its there enough user support for the device?, keeping all this things in mind I take my dessicions... When it's a matter of your wallet you need to think with your brain and not with your heart... there's a lot of info about anything google/youtube/xda... for me samsung has been always a smart choice... got a tab 10.1 a galaxy Nexus and after reading A LOT I'm ready to get a note for my wife (Who is driving me crazy about it)... And I'm definitely getting for myself a gnote 2 when it ever comes out (keeping gnex for testing and getting sooner latest Google updates) and enjoying the magic of note...

cheers

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Johev:
Well I mostly agree with the comments in this thread, specially the ones that were expecting more out of the company which gave us the best phone of 2011 (GS2) and single handedly created a new type of device (Phone tablet Hybrid) which we all love and use.

Would it be much to ask to have the full features of ICS in the update?

Why can't we just have a widgets part in our applications, where we can actually see how they look?

Why can't we have a safe kernel?

Why can't we have a better TW, like the one on SG3?

Why can't the PEN be more usable as a daily note taking utility?

There are so many questions and not much reply from Samsung on when will they solve the problems.