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[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
Sorry, read your edit too late so did not check anything with OS monitor app. Out of your list, most things were applied already (though WIFI during sleep was set to "only when plugged"). After applying the rest like Greenify (a lot of user apps including KakaoTalk) and vibration disable, I used it for a whole battery cycle again (uses are similar to last tuesday). Strangely, I got even slightly worse results :confused:. Furthermore I got some wakelocks that I have never seen before (Whatsapp?). What is the deal there?

I have also added a BBS dumpfile of my phone overnight with WIFI and mobile data both OFF.

Thanks Many and everyone else who is trying to help me :).
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
Thanks mate for your report. I'm tired today so will have a closer look at this later. However a few remarks:

- your deep sleep (without WIFI/mobile data) on 2nd BBS log looks OK

- when you used WIFI you got many more wakelocks than before - what did you exactly change for WIFI recently? Just revert these changes back temporarily.

- Do you use WhatsUp messaging app? If yes, freeze it and observe if it helps

- did you freeze or disable autostarts for any GSF services? If yes, just revert then back.

Might be finally that you will need a frash rom installation with hawkerpaul GS2RomNuke script if we don't find reasonable solution at the end.
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
- I did not change my WIFI recently, it has been like this for quite a while. However, I have been noticing quite some unregular WIFI wakelocks since a long time (some days a lot of WIFI wakes, somedays almost none). I will play around with my WIFI settings a bit more to see if I can get any improvements.

- Yes I do use WhatsApp on a daily basis. If I freeze it, won't I be unable to use it? Unfortunately I have to use WhatsApp everyday for at least 6 hours...

- I did not mess with anything of GSF (lately), however I am not sure wether I did edit it with Gemini a few months back. I will have to recheck that again (is it just under the name of GSF?).

I have been thinking about Nuking + reinstalling for quite some time now, just wanted to see if there is no other way maybe. Anyways gracias in advance :).
[Galaxy S II General] red.hat:
The problem lays with your wifi. It is draining about 32% of your battery. Can you use your 3g connection instead of your wifi? Use wifi only when needed and turn it off when not in use.

You can go to the advanced setting and unchecked notify me when network is available and keep wifi on during sleep. This option should prevent the wake ups.
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
Hmm maybe it's not a bad idea to test a cycle with only 3G. Thanks for the suggestion and will report back results later!
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
I have tried another cycle with only using 3G and no WIFI, and surprisingly the battery life got even worse (abt 2 hours of screen time!). However, I don't think this is related to using or not using WIFI. I don't know why but it seems that my battery life get's worse with each cycle :(.

I was thinking about trying to change modems, except I have no clue where to start. How can I know which modem will be good for my phone? I have read about and used GetRIL and it says that my current modem is fine.

By the way, is there any replacement for Gemini App manager? Since some time ago the screen in the app is 50% ads, and crashes from time to time for me. I wanted to buy the pro version but I don't have a credit card and there is no other way of paying (even though the app says there is).

If all of these still not work then I guess I have to try nuke + reinstall...
[Galaxy S II General] deadload:
What version of neatrom you are?

Are you on siyah 6b5?
[Galaxy S II General] NoRulesForMe:
Neatrom Ms1 v4.4

Siyah b4 of course. Mate.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
@dwie

Concerning your last log (without wifi). I noticed your awake time during sleep was about 1h20m so a lot too much. The longest wakelock was l2_hsic:

- did you followed my previous advices how to limit it (rebooting after charging etc)?

- this wakelock maybe modem related - have you meesed up something recently with modem/RIL files? I would be careful with GetRIL. People reported that it doesn't work well with JB. If you decide to try another modem you can try but it's not recommended to use RIL files from older roms especially ICS.

Also pls use OS monitor and check what apps/processes are most active working in the background and using CPU. Make also screenshot of CPU states from BBS or eg CPU adjuster app for some hours of phone usage and upload here. Alternative for Gemini which I know is Aoutostarts app but it's paid AFAIK.

If you at the end still have poor battery life then IMO you should make clean installation of your rom, implement necessary tweaks and recheck your battery life without extra users apps.
[Galaxy S II General] red.hat:
This is very interesting. You try Manny solution for now and am sure the few heads on here should be able to come up with some solution.
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
Everyone thanks for your support and insights. As Many suggested, I have downloaded OS Monitor. I'm still not sure how to intepret these things exactly. However if I would use my common sense I would say that there is nothing wrong with these screenshots. Most of the times when I check the app itself (OS Monitor) is using the most CPU, the second place would use 3% and all others either 1% or 0%.

I have also added the screenshots for CPU States of BBS.

Many, to answer your questions: yes since you suggested that I reboot after every charge I made it a habit. I also unplug the charger only after unlocking my screen. Also I did mention GetRIL, however since the app already said that my current RIL was fine I did not change it. I have no clue where this wakelock comes from...

Oh and maybe a bit off topic but I found a solution for Gemini App Manager. After turning off WIFI and mobile data, there were no ads anymore :).
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
Screenshots look ok hmm ..... I would suggest to make an experiment - Freeze WhatsUp plus some other questionable user apps which might drain battery for some hours and check battery life again.

If there will be no difference just do what I recommended - fresh/clean install of rom and check battery without any additional apps / potential drainers.
[Galaxy S II General] deadload:
Flashed neatrom 4.4 today + siyah kernel 6b4. The later flashed your tweaks all in one. But I don't know why when I reboot my stweaks settings come back to default. Tried gs2kernelwipe but the same happen. Work but when I reboot I loss the settings. I'm using the last version os Stweaks from market. :(
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
Open Stweaks, change something in there (doesn't matter what), "Apply", then change it back, "Apply", reboot. After reboot check if your settings are still there.

If it doesn't work, reset Stweaks profile (from the app or CWM) and flash my zip again.

It nothing helps - try reflashing kernel wih kernel wipe script.
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
I have decided to do a clean install of NeatROM. Just to make sure, I have a few questions about the process.

1) Do I need to make a Nandroid backup?

2) Do I still need to wipe cache/data after applying hawkerpaul's nuke scripts? And will my files on the external SD be lost?

3) What do you mean by additional apps? Do I still need to install Greenify, Gemini etc. to apply your ROM Tweaks before initially checking the battery?
[Galaxy S II General] parag1dubey:
1) it is recommended to make a nandroid

2)no need to wipe anything after flashing rom nuke.

3)greenify and Gemini ate recommendations. They will help you in saving battery. But they are not compulsory. Up to you.
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
1. Yes, make nandroid (just in case) - I recommend on Philz latest kernel (LSE edition) - make sure preload partition is included to backup

2. No no need - Nuke script removes some app related files from internal SD card to have even more clean environment for a new rom but most of your files will be safe (check what exactly rom nuke removes on hawkerpaul's thread). Safer for you might be to use GS2RomWipe script - it will not delete any files from internal sd cards. So, decide by your own but use at least rom wipe script.

3. After installing a new rom don't install your user apps except a few for monitoring your battery life (mainly use BetterBatteryStatts), just to test how it is on a clean rom. When you get your results then you can install other user apps (which you normally use) and redo your battery test.
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
So correct me if I'm wrong but the correct order is:

- Flash Philz latest kernel

- Make Nandroid backup

- Nuke/wipe ROM and kernel

- Install NeatROM

- Download BBS and monitor battery life

Thanks, will give it a shot!
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
Yep, but one remark: do battery test on default kernel, then flash Siyah and test again and finaly install your apps.
[Galaxy S II General] red.hat:
Here is the order you should proceed.

.Make nandroid

Factory reset (wipe data, cache etc)

Install neatrom

Flash kernel

Install BBS (and set default to unplugged not boot. Unplugged allows you to see what is happening when phone is in deep sleep)
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
Sorry for so many questions, but will my nandroid backups if I use the ROMNuke script? Normally I would copy my nandroid backups to my PC but currently I don't have a USB cable so I won't be able to do this (at least not this week).
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
Don't worry your nandroid backups will be safe even you use rom nuke script, please read what I suggested (what rom nuke script realy deletes):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2100558
[Galaxy S II General] Name.:
Battery issue still unresolved.

Yo fellas. I moved to neatrom 4.4 i think it is and Siyah6.0 beta4 ver 1.02 because apparently they give SUPREME battery when used properly.

Anyway I used MANY40's setup:

I downloaded and flashed this: Many40_Battery_tweaks_Siyah6b4_CWM_102.zip

The only changes I've made is making 100 mhz and 200 mhz both to 850,000uV (normally its 825k for both on his config, but my phone was unstable and rebooted ocasionally).

I done most of the rom tweaks he suggested in his post, and I do all the recommended actions (like minimum brightness, gsm only or wcdma only, data or wifi only, ETC). I done this throughout the last couple of days, results have been the best, only improving by an hour or two. DON'T GET ME WRONG! this is good, but I just need help to get 'better' battery, the current battery time is not good enough... please help, i'm attaching 2 screenshots, of in-built battery meter and the screen meter. Also a BBS log. Thanks.

P.S. THE BATTERY PERCENTAGE IN THE SCREEN SHOTS WENT UP 2-3% I THINK BECAUSE FOR A FEW MINUTES MY USB WAS PLUGGED INTO MY COMP!
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
Did a full clean install of NeatROM 4.4, disabled vibration and system sounds. Downloaded only BBS to monitor wakelocks. I see some wakelocks which are closely related to fastdormancy (I think), but nothing unusual besides that. Battery life seems to be no different from before (i.e. bad).

I know the time span of this "test" is kind of short, but that's because everyday there are a few hours I just need to be on WhatsApp. Will try do test it over a longer time span and report back later!
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
You provided BBS log for too short observation time - 2h15m is too less to properly analyse wakelocks. However I have a few remarks based on info you provided;

- autosyncing is not saving battery, if you don't need it disable it (settings/data usage/left touch button / uncheck "autosync data"

- Facebook app is big battery drainer - if you don't need it, access Facebook from a browser.

- if you don't use Internet access, disable it (wifi or mobile data)

- after charging battery rebooting may limit l2_hsic wakelock. Don't disconnect charger whilecscreen is off.
[Galaxy S II General] Name.:
So your suggesting I do around a 4 hour log and post it back here?

P.S. As a replacement for facebook, i've decided to use 'friendcaster'.
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
Not only, my suggestion is that you consider all what I said. Calculation is simple: more potential drainers, shorter battery life. You decide.
[Galaxy S II General] Name.:
Oh yeah obviously, i've already disabled auto-sync and deleted facebook and installed friendcaster instead.

Also gonna do what you said about the l2 wakelock tomorrow and test.
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
Your observation period is not so long but might be sufficient if you don't mix again several things in your rom. I asked you to make clean rom test without Internet connection (neither wifi nor 3g) and without user apps (only with initial rom tunning) then to check the same on Siyah and finaly on complete setup. If you mix things from the beginning it will be hard to come to any conclusions.

Concerning FD - yes you may be right - change your FD state using FD app by Gokhanmoral.
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
I did not have user apps (except for BBS), also did not read the part without Internet connection, sorry about that. If that is the case, then I will try to find a hole in my schedule this week to test it :P. It is hard for me to live without mobile internet during the week, so I will probably be back in the weekend with my new report.

Question though, is it sufficient to test the clean rom overnight (etc. only deep sleep). If not, then I really don't know how I would get my one or two hours of on screen time without internet (there is pretty much nothing to do on the phone with no user apps and internet).
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
Ok lets start with deep sleep during the night with wifi and mobile data off, whatsup and other "drainers" freezed. Good luck and report later. Your case is quite interesting for me to be honest :)
[Galaxy S II General] deadload:
Sometimes when I flash siyah automatically stweaks are installed on my phone, sometimes don't. Someone know why?
[Galaxy S II General] Actor Secundario Bob:
Wakelocks

Hello people! Im having some trouble with wakelocks using NeatRom 4.3 (XWLSD I think) with Siyah b5 and many's great config.

The ones appearing mainly are AudioOut_2, ConnectivityServuce and NetworkLocationLocator, anybody knows solution for this? I also read that I should try monitoring with BBS with no internet connection on but Im not sure about what should I check.

Thanks for your time.
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
All is dependant on how long are these wakelocks comparing to observation time and if they pop up when your screen is OFF (what would cause your phone not going to deep sleep).

So, I recommend you to charge your battery, use your phone and after some hours of usage (the more the better) upload here a proper BBS dump file. Also provide together a list of your user apps which you installed in addition to the rom and screenshots from internal battery monitor.
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
Results for deep sleep are not bad but should be better. I see that you chose for your phone one the biggest battery drainers: Facebook as well as Viber and WhatsUp. For the next test freeze them (at leat when you don't use them). BTW do you have any other "interesting" from battery life perspective apps? :)
[Galaxy S II General] Name.:
Ummmm I dunno if it counts but the xda app, Skype, twitter, Gmail. That's it really, I see what you're trying to get at by me freezing the apps, and if the battery is a lot better you'll say to not to use WhatsApp, thing is WhatsApp is a sort of essential thing when I use my phone. The battery atm is alright, when I was on cm10 it was so rubbish. I'm just tryna get at how you got 6 hours screen with 42 hours idle. Wow that's amazing... The only reason I'm kind of pissed off with the battery is because I hardly use the phone and when I do its only WhatsApp or music headphones, as far as I'm concerned now in the UK it's 10 30 I would have 75 percent on my old blackberry but I actually have 40 percent on my s2
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
I'm not telling you "don't use it" Just freeze them only for a test to see any difference, it costs nothing. Might be I'm wrong. Btw did you disable FD with Gokhanmoral's app from playstore and rebooted? Tbh l2_sic is too big.
[Galaxy S II General] Name.:
Nah I done that *#9900# thing, oh well it probably didn't work, I'll do your way and test. Also I know l2 us big I done what you said which was reboot when charged but it's still there!
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
Okay did a test of a few hours before sleep yesterday until a few hours after waking up today. As you can see there hasn't been a lot of screen on time since there was practically nothing to do on my phone lol. However a 20+% battery loss with 30min does not seem good to me. Next time I will flash siyah kernel and do another similar test.
[Galaxy S II General] parag1dubey:
Hi many, I posted that problem I faced with siyah 6.0b4 on the neat thread. Do you think siyah 6.0b5 will help in avoiding that? Can siyah 6.0b5 give better battery life than b4?thanks many :)
[Galaxy S II General] cnjax:
Parag

I replied in the neat thread what I changed in stweaks to fix similar issues. As far as which one will give better battery life I say 6.0b4 hands down the reduction in in cpu frequency steps in 6.0b5 handcuffs the ability to reduce cpu drain, plus I found 6.0b5 kernel to run hotter than 6.0b4

GT-I9100 powered by

NeatRom Lite 4.4

SiyahKernel 6.0b4

JB Reloaded + MyLifeRock10 blue theme

Many40's battery tweaks
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
Hi,

As I answered you already - most likely your problem is caused by too aggressive settings of my config then do what I recommended.

You can first compare how both kernels work for you on default settings, then decide which to choose.

Siyah version IMO has nothing to do with your problem and for me beta 4 gives a little better battery life - but maybe it's subjective.
[Galaxy S II General] NoRulesForMe:
+1

More hotter on siyab5 :screwy:

Stay on b4 mate.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S II General] parag1dubey:
@cnjax @many @norules thanks to all of you.. Since I am typing from my laptop I cant thank you because of the thanks limit. :)
[Galaxy S II General] electricsheepdreamer:
*#9900# didn't work for me on JB.

You need to use GM's app.

l2hsic is related to data package receiving and it is normal.

WhatsApp doesn't drain battery, you can configure it properly in its settings.

Viber is reported as a massive drainer unless they fixed it in the latest release. Try to freeze it for a while and observe.

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Actually it was 19% loss over 19hrs with 30mins of the screen. It seems that low signal area can be your main issue.

Try to enter mobile network settings, select operator automatically then after you're connected on network search for networks again and select your operator manually.

3G uses more battery than 2G and it's recommended (battery saving wise) not to use auto 2G/3G mode but to interchange them manually.

Personally, I think that WiFi/2G usage gives the optimal result.

Other than that, there's nothing particularly wrong with your stats.

(You can enable root features in BBS advanced settings)
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
Thanks for your reply! Since I am not using mobile data nor WIFI during these tests, should the 2G/3G settings not matter anyways?
[Galaxy S II General] electricsheepdreamer:
I think they should unless you restrict background data.

Type *#0011# and check under debug screen>gprs information.

Now, don't try everything at the same time and give a Google search a try for specifics.:)
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
Did you disable mobile data completely or just didn't use it? If you disabled it, then 2G/3G doesn't matter because no data will be transmitted at all but if you didn't - it matters (background data can be transmitted) as ESD mentioned.

Thanks mate for your help here (at last :))
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
I completely disabled WIFI and mobile data.

Again thanks everyone for their support!
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
If you really want other people to help you then post a longer dumpfile, preferably one which shows your phone during deep sleep and also one that covers your phone during a few hours of "normal" uses.

PS: Your battery life is better than mine, if that makes you feel any better ;p
[Galaxy S II General] tariq2kn:
Is there a videoplayer fix for Siyah 6b4?
[Galaxy S II General] deadload:
What rom you are tarik2kn?

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Hey many40 need I hibernate Gemini, bbs, gsam and lbe apps with greenify app? The settings that I have on this apps will be affected?
[Galaxy S II General] tariq2kn:
i am on stock lsd
[Galaxy S II General] It_ler:
I have already answered your question in kernel thread.
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
Back with a test in Siyah kernal. Only noticed the huge partial wakelock this morning when waking up. However I've read that this wakelock can be solved by simply rebooting.

Having said that, even with this wakelock, and half hour of phone call, and about half hour of screen time I get about the same battery drain as with the stock kernel. Since in the last time I pretty much did nothing on my phone except for turning the screen on to check time, I think it's safe to say that the Siyah kernal is better for my battery life.

However it's still not as good as I hoped it to be. Any ideas what might be the problem? I have tried ESD's suggestions too. In the end, might my battery be faulty?

I will install some user apps and try to test it with "normal" use now.

EDIT: In the process of putting my screenshots on my pc with a USB cable, my phone gained 4% in a few minutes. Isn't that strange?
[Galaxy S II General] tariq2kn:
Is there cwm file for philz with 4.1.2?
[Galaxy S II General] red.hat:
You have a look here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31310650

[12.03.2013][PhilZ-cwm6][i9100/P] v4.88.1 Safe Stock Kernel+CWM6+Root+exFAT+ext4-MS8
[Galaxy S II General] electricsheepdreamer:
Very strange since your phone was charging when connected to PC :)

Please try to install gSam Battery Monitor Pro, it's much more intuitive.
[Galaxy S II General] citymen34:
thank you this mods.....
[Galaxy S II General] dwie:
Thanks, will do.

I have a question regarding ROM Tweaks. Is it needed to edit the autostarts of apps you froze? My gut says no, but just wanted to be sure :).
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
Not needed - freezed means disabled for good until use enable it again. But it's good routine IMO to have autostart disabled of freezed apps in case if you enable them and forget to disable autostart afterwards.
[Galaxy S II General] Re-FleX_NL:
What is the best option for battery life? Version 4.3 or version 4.4 with siyah?? And what is so much better in 4.4? Except it is newer?

Someone?
[Galaxy S II General] Many40:
For me doesn't matter: both roms work well in my phone.
[Galaxy S II General] Re-FleX_NL:
Thank you for your answer but what do you use? And if it is 4.4 why? And whats the difference with 4.3?
[Galaxy S II General] Gary588:
I've done a few tests on the NEAT ROM with stock kernel and with Siyah and on the settings given here.
[Galaxy S II General] cnjax:
Ok and your point is? Inquiring minds want to know

GT-I9100 powered by

NeatRom Lite 4.4

SiyahKernel 6.0b4

JB Reloaded + MyLifeRock10 blue theme

Many40's battery tweaks
[Galaxy S II General] szymko1995:
Odp: NeatRom + Siyah Kernal. Optimization for Better Battery

So, what combination of rom plus kernel is the best for battery life? Currently I'm using omega with speedmod and it doesn't even last for a day off work (7-24) with middle usage. My old Sensation was giving me better battery life on Sense 4.1.

BTW already ordered 2000mah battery from Samsung. It should be at my home about in monday.

Wysłane z mojego GT-I9100