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[HTC One X] thekillingroad:
Well of course XDA(nerds/geeks) like us are not the whole community of HOX users. The thing I am complaning is not that it is late; the thing is their "uncertain" replies to people's questions. Just, simply as I wrote. It is not rolling out, why do you say it is? It is not.. :)

of course I'm not paying attention to what some sites wrote, just don't give a single damn about those. what I meant was official HTC anouncements and replies.

Also, I think I've already mentioned that I'm not making a big thing out of this update, though I've posted earlier that (I'm not expecting you to know what I posted before) I'm not gonna upgrade as soon as I see it because I don't have much time for troubleshooting these days, I'll wait for comments from other people who've upgraded.

I'm not even checking it from my own phone since that is really really not a deal for me at all.

Yet, this is not a thread to cry out, but I think a decent place to talk about update policys and stuff relevant. Though I agree in your opinion that not all HOX users are like us, but as I've seen from people around in Turkey and also lots of people in europe, HTC is still different in terms of users. The name HTC is known only around people who are used to smartphones in the past, not like Apple or Samsung. the HTC community is still small, close and more.. nerdy? or geeky. But of course, not the majority, especially oin HOX because it is one of the sexiest phones ever made and I know quite lots of people who were the last ones to be using HTC, but ended up buying a HOX.

Well, this is why I'm complaining about this, though not giving a damn whether its rolled out or not. HTC is the company who has to struggle most among those droid manufacturers to keep their customers happy. Common/noob users are out there who have just thrown out their phones because the initial firmware was a battery killer. You and I or other falks around are patient enough to wait for a fix from HTC itself or xda-members, but those majority you have mentioned are not. This may sound like a different case at all, but it is not indeed. These are all connected to each other in terms of approach, total quality. They just don't act like a reliable brand, and this is my main complain.

And again, keeping us happy is not publishing every single latest android version quickly. But not also making false or uncertain anouncements.

Hope no one around will be just too childish to say "dont buy an HTC then!". This approach will end up everyone in the world buying an iPhone and accept what Apple puts in front of us. That seek for "better" and "more" is the reason why we're using android.

I know I am also a contributer to this off-topic going in the thread, sorry about that too.

I actually had lots fun with people crying "where is it where is it", I had remember the 5th of november posts too :)

but HTC's attitude is just not right and I don't like it.
[HTC One X] 147aaron:
My cid is HTC_621 but my firmware version is 1.29.751.12. Can I still flash the Firmware.zip file and use a custom jellybean rom?
[HTC One X] kvragec:
OK, thank you. That was a big help. I did not alter nothing just unlocked bootloader.
[HTC One X] BenPope:
I think you could flash the 1.29.709 or 2.17.709 RUU and then apply the OTA. Well, from what I heard.
[HTC One X] hammadsaqib:
Alter as in what exactly?
[HTC One X] BenPope:
Delete system apps, install mods, etc.
[HTC One X] Blappy:
My CID is HTC__621 and my firmware version is 2.18.751.7

My phone isn't rooted.

Can I download this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1957376
[HTC One X] BenPope:
Do you know what it is and what it's used for?

You can download it (the 709 version) and it will probably install.
[HTC One X] Blappy:
Uhm, as the video said I am a noob XD

Anyhow, I guess it changes my firmware version so I can get the update?
[HTC One X] siemz:
In dutch but they say the update is planned inside the last 3 months of this year

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[HTC One X] HebeGuess:
*For nerd only.. This is one sample case:-

If you removed 7digital from your ROM after unlock, you will fail to apply OTA because the update script check and hash specific apk before proceed.

assert(apply_patch_check("/system/app/7digital3.0.apk", "5b020dd38cab2378f2630f59842ca122ca9fe00e", "224699f55c091cd5ee3f58949fd195a3fa91c78b"));

set_progress(0.002094);

assert(apply_patch_check("/system/app/7digital3.0.odex", "f315f105070544d4fc30bb4deb47712df72d522f", "4005fec7544a9508ff3f6422da84142754be0dd5"));

set_progress(0.008055);

This is just 2 lines picked within around 5300 lines of update-script for JB OTA.
[HTC One X] c.e.z:
I mistyped, meant 4.0.4.

Yes, that was the thing i wanted to point out that he bought a hox with 4.0.3 and updated to 4.0.4 and that they mistooked it for jb update.

The pic only shows that still no update here in croatia...for now....

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] TimeWasterNL:
I think we Dutchies will get it in November and that's why HTC NL says it'll be in the last quarter of 2012. It could start tomorrow, you know :p
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
WOW! I never really read posts this long, but you made a lot of sense. Very good points and I hope HTC has someone following here and taking notes.

On another note, this is the first time I have followed an update thread with such intensity. Has android, and more to the point, htc updates always been this way? I mean page after page of people asking are we there yet? Are we there yet? Lol just curios!
[HTC One X] Blappy:
How do I install this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1957376&page=3

I need my phone to be rooted?
[HTC One X] Dountoun:
That means it can also start at 21st of December when we all die XD

But serious, I hope it will be this week, otherwise it needs to be there in 2 weeks, not next week because i'm in London then and i don't know if i there are any open Wi-Fi adresses :eek:
[HTC One X] zuadao:
you guys do know there is questions & answers section on the forums right?

you keep asking the exact same things. if you want to ask if the ota as been released to you thats fine, if you want to know how to flash the leaked jb go to the proper place.
[HTC One X] :
This thread is a first world problem meme waiting to happen.
[HTC One X] caedanne:
I heard we will die in November... With X-Planet... Probably without JB so don't worry...
[HTC One X] BenPope:
No.

Why would you want to install it when you don't know what it is?

Don't install it.
[HTC One X] Cristianop:
Yessss

Gesendet von meinem HTC One X
[HTC One X] Andy:
Yes, most forums that I moderate have page after page of user speculation (no bad thing), trolling, baiting and just general rubbish. You get the occasional user posting a fake screenshot showing the update, then page after page of users complaining that they don't have it.

Take everything you read in this thread with a pinch of salt, just because 1 user in Taiwan gets the update doesn't mean you'll get it tomorrow in the UK.
[HTC One X] TimeWasterNL:
I just had a conversation with the HTC Support and the only thing I really got clear from it is that according to earlier updates, the order of the update will be on IMEI and not on CID.
[HTC One X] gkm8123:
Why htc make not announcement for the update? Its top secret?
[HTC One X] SweDunda:
The secret is that they do not afford bigger servers to push out the JB to everyone at once !
[HTC One X] TimeWasterNL:
Indeed, our only sources are the already received updates in Asia and some third party sites spectulating..
[HTC One X] atrako1973:
Hope this thread will get hit by an asteroid
[HTC One X] Dountoun:
Then the question is do they go from high to low or from low to high? :cyclops:
[HTC One X] krohme:
The following is my own personal views & opinion, before any die hard HTC fanatics starts calling 4 my head. :eek:

After the unveiling of the Google nexus 4, I'm considering making a jump from HTC to the nexus line of Google branded & supported handsets.

The reason is that All manufactures take some time to eventually release the latest version of Google's android OS - the only way to avoid continuously playing catchup is to buy a nexus phone.

I was never convinced about the previous nexus phones, but the nexus 4 is a monster! I can live with 16 gb because the other specs r outstanding. The main reason apart from the hardware is obviously android 4.2 out of the box.

I have had a fantastic journey with HTC, desire, desire hd, sensation xe and the hox. But I think it's time to try something new and the support from Google in terms of software updates is the icing on a jelly bean flavoured cake. :p
[HTC One X] Dountoun:
Yeah, I know what you mean.

My problem is that I like Sense to much :p

Cant release me from it :D
[HTC One X] krohme:
Bro sense is the only reason I've stuck with HTC all this time! The best gui on any smartphone. :good:

It would be very difficult to leave HTC & sense.. will see what happens. I wonder if HTC will update our hox to jelly bean 4.2??
[HTC One X] HebeGuess:
Nope really, simply because the ROM is cooked accordingly to CIDs. However , IMEI may steps in while they distributing OTA.

Few days ago, some guys in Taiwan get reply that HTC had pushing IMEIs in batch to FOTA to avoid congestion. This is not the first time I heard of this approach, you can find it on xda too. From they grammer they used I believed the IMEI entered was use to generates server push message for notifying the OTA availibilty, other user on same ROM version can also grab them manually.
[HTC One X] mando508:
I think they should wait with 4.2 and give us android 5 in 2013 :p. That would be COoL.
[HTC One X] thekillingroad:
Thank you for your kind thoughts firs.

Well HTC is not always the best amongts companies for satisfying customers but again, the HTC crowd is also the hardest to satifsy since the reasons I've mentioned in my long post. We want the latest, we want the fastest etc.

Also, the leaks are whispering that the HOX is getting really smoother and faster with JB, that is also one of the reasons IMO, that people are so excited.

Also that amount of excitement automatically brings trolling and jack-ass jokes, which also results in more excitement.. circle.. dead end. :p

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Well I don't think any reasonable human being will call for your head :p :D

As a guy posted here before, if getting the cutting edge software first is a priority, then the Nexus phones are of course the must. Since those are the devices google are taking aside and making the development on. the thing that sticks me with HTC is actually the quality feel of the product actually. Havent heard anything about the Nexus4 yet, but even most of the Sammy fanatics will agree that Samsungs feel really really rubbish in your hand. If it is pure performance that you want, this can be ignorable but IMO, toyss cost that much (and its almost the double in Turkey) should feel good in the owner's hands.

Well after spending 2 good years with the really nice feeling HD2, I couldn't do anything else but get the HOX.

aaaaand, for the M27.. still nothing :D

two scenarios are still on line I guess.

1. JB for HOX is not complete, anyone had the HOX+ shipped in their hands?

2. taiwan is the beta test area. which is kinda, cruel regarding our arguements about homeland caring :)
[HTC One X] nyinx2:
I think the thread starter should edit the first post of this thread with rules that no one is allowed to post "no update yet.. havent got it yet.. bla..bla..bla.. yet.."

The people should be lead to post here if they have got the update, and show their CID and country.. with rules clearly writen there, I hope this thread won't be kinda' mess.. *IMHO* :)
[HTC One X] krohme:
The comments from those fortunate enough to have used the JB update - is what's making it hard to wait patiently.

Sometimes software updates contain just small unnoticeable behind the scene bug fixes, but here we the masses are awaiting Jelly Bean in all its glory! :victory: Not to mention Google now and Project butter smoothness enhancements..

The wait is unbearable - but the silence from HTC is even worse :rolleyes::(
[HTC One X] Higgins12:
Once you have JB you will see how much resources your beloved Sense eats right away. 52% CPU Power is average. HTC didn't optimise Sense, only polished it.

Heavily doubt that.
[HTC One X] TGyllen:
I don't think they send a ota beta. If it weren't complete they wouldn't send it att all. (to "normal" users) maybe to super special extra 1111111 users.

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[HTC One X] exoticashu:
All Nexus 4 hype amid the release of so called "older" JB OTA for HTC or Samsung seems irrational... Going for Nexus is like eating raw meet... i think its the Sense or tuchwiz which brings the real features of any OS...

I still feel and have felt and read that the best thing which happened to HTC was sense... there product sell is not so high, they are not leader in mobile market, there devices have bugs (as people say)... but still every one starve for Sense... other day i saw in XDA that rooted Sony devices got Sense..

its topping which really matter, even though your crust is already so yummy for pizza...
[HTC One X] hamdir:
another awesome post today

you guys are making my day

i miss all the sense lovers :)
[HTC One X] virtualflyer:
I have just one question, the only reason for which I haven't yet flashed a JB Sense Rom is the new hboot and the impossibility to come back to ics or other roms. Whenever the update will come for my CID (HTC__405) will it also update the hboot and give me the exactly same problem once I reunlock the bootloader? Because if it's exactly the same and after the OTA I won't be able to use ICS and AOSP JB roms which are out at the moment, I won't even wait for the OTA and flash the new hboot with a custom JB Sebse Rom in an hour :D
[HTC One X] HebeGuess:
I'm sure you are not from computer/programmer background, that's all.

:victory:
[HTC One X] thekillingroad:
Agree on all of the points.

Btw, your droid's getting arrested.. I am on the ground now ahauhauha

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Well of course I was being a bit sarcastic on that. :)

That is not officially a beta, but they may want to roll it out and see what is the most complained error and use the time efficiently according to that feedback.
[HTC One X] exoticashu:
and to get the most complained error, HTC will pick only a segment of market, even they are testing their International Model here :)
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
I was just catching up on the comments here after watching a video on the nexus 4 and 10. I am sorry to say that for the first time I am considering leaving HTC.

The way Google are progressing in the software department, HTC will have to work very hard to keep Sense as innovative as they have till now.

I do love Sense though, and there is quite a few things I would miss. But as I said, Google is moving very very fast.
[HTC One X] thekillingroad:
Well, do you have the courage to roll it out worldwide, knowing it is defective?

Taiwan is probably the most forgiving market for HTC to make a priority list of errors, with real feedback from real users.

Of course, I'm not saying that this is what is happening, just an idea, which is not totally impossible or nonsense, in my opinion.
[HTC One X] krohme:
Please elaborate as to why you feel going for the nexus 4 is like "eating raw meat"? :confused:

On the issue around sense, I agree it uses too much ram and therefore hogs too much system resources, but I still don't see any other launcher that comes any where close to sense - its the most sophisticated, feature full UI - touchwiz is not worth discussing. :p

However I can easily bring out the best out of android with Apex Launcher - not much eye candy compared to sense - but the performance is on par with any other launcher, also Apex is not as system hungry as sense is.

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100% Agree. :highfive: :good::good::good:

Apart from keeping sense innovated - they have to climb mountains in order to keep making changes to sense so that it incorporates all the software updates made by Google to the OS platform. And like you said, Google is moving very very fast indeed. Hence the current situation we face now.
[HTC One X] jamm513:
Hamdir has reason, my HOX is HTC_621, i have the Official JB OTA on my phone and the Expanding notifications just requires a pinch gesture to show and hide. Soon i wiil made a video to show.
[HTC One X] virtualflyer:
Can you tell me if you have the new hboot flashed together with the OTA?
[HTC One X] mibikin:
The OTA won't boot unless you have the new HBOOT, so yes it does.
[HTC One X] jamm513:
yep, i have the Hboot 1.31.

but now i'm using OrdroidX , Because Shniz are using the JB Official OTA as base whit WWE support.
[HTC One X] virtualflyer:
So it's the same to flash a custom sense jb rom or wait for the ota as about incompatibility with older Roms?

Inviato dal mio HTC One X con Tapatalk 2
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
They said it's rolling out globally. They didn't say what the roll out schedule or increments were. So since Taiwan's on the globe, the statement. "it's rolling out globally" is true. For those freaking out about waiting a whopping two weeks give or take until the roll out is complete; get a grip. Two or three weeks after that this massively anticipated "update" will just be the ROM everyone's on. Then those that are manic and/or hate HTC can start the "where's 4.2?" bashing. I really do wish you update freaks would get a Nexus device. It would solve all your problems and those of us that are less neurotic wouldn't have to listen to you *****.
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
the new ordroid is 100% the same as the 3.14 taiwan ota. im considering swtching to that as im still on stock 3.14.709.16
[HTC One X] virtualflyer:
Nice, my only concern was the impossibility to use a rom made for the older hboot with the unofficial sense jb roms. And I stupidly thought that with the ota it would have been different

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[HTC One X] thekillingroad:
Seriously?

I..err... I really don't know what to say to this..

Do you understand global corporations, as a corporation on the globe?
[HTC One X] siemz:
Totally agree, we should be happy with the device we have, and its already amazing! The update will come anyways , and being an ass about it won't make it come any sooner.

Send from my HTC One X using taptalk premium
[HTC One X] SweDunda:
So, what if I have the HBOOT - 1.12.000 . Can I not update JB OTA then? The phone is RELOCKED and up to date whit the latest OTA - 2.17.401.2

Sorry for bad english ! :o
[HTC One X] ashishchandra:
any news about jelly bean for T-Mobile HOX ?
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
If I had a dollar for every time I heard that on this thread I could buy HTC and push the update myself!
[HTC One X] mohsinraza:
Hey Just a little question in this sea of useless posts. I'm updated to JB .709 device so I'm not curious about anything.

I just wanna know can someone with .707 device run 709 RUU and make his phone 1.29.709.x and then he'll get JB in a flash.

My cousin's waiting desperately so I do need a CORRECT answer. Direct me to 1.29.709.x RUU in case this is possible.

His CID is HTC_044 and is running stock, non rooted, 4.0.4.

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] Zlotin:
No, you can`t. The RUU will fail. But if You still want to try http://www.htcruu.com/?dir=Endeavor
[HTC One X] norpan111:
Can't find report button in Tapatalk anymore, stop spam

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[HTC One X] high_voltage:
If you are not anticipating the update that much why you are in this thread in first place?

Also htc said many times: rolling at Taiwan/Asia and Europe not globally, i.e. they where more specific and as we all know not even one dude@xda and this thread got the update and post the screenshot. It's safe to say htc are bending the truth. And yes, I am fully awere that the update will take some time and also I am not in a hurry(my phone works just fine now after all), but I don't like some of the htc statements. :)
[HTC One X] AttilaGolik:
Sorry, but they said globally. Here's the proof I posted before from Twitter:
[HTC One X] Romain75:
You made my day bro' :D
[HTC One X] Xmister:
Of course you can't, 'cause HTC didn't think of the users that haven't flashed the leaked HBOOT...

Seriously , why don't you just think?
[HTC One X] liamdunn:
For those on 3 i tweeted Three Support yesterday and they said they had the update and were in the process of testing it with the hopes of a release very soon
[HTC One X] SweDunda:
Why not answer instead? Stressed out cus no JB update? :p

Someone else maby can answer me please? Does it matter witch HBOOT I have on my phone? I have HBOOT - 1.12.000.

As always, sorry for bad english
[HTC One X] avatar_ro:
you will be able to install the OTA JB only if you reflash the stock recovery and do a fastboot oem lock
[HTC One X] SweDunda:
Thank's for that! :)

Yes I have reflashed the stock recovery and relocked the fastboot :)
[HTC One X] thekillingroad:
I think we all lost our minds..

There are people out there, who are really defending the word "globally" since Taiwan is on the globe!!
[HTC One X] SweDunda:
You forgot a few verry important words to = "receiving it shortly"
[HTC One X] TikTakk:
asked vodafone australia on facebook about update their reply

"HTC recently advised that they're actively preparing that update for us and they'll deliver it for us to testing quite soon. You can keep track of the progress each week in our Software Update Weekly Wraps:

http ://blog.vodafone.com.au/blog/tag/software-weekly-wraps/"
[HTC One X] :
4.1 for the UK tomorrow? Hmmm I'm doubtful.
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
I'm not even that fussed about getting JB. I just want it out so they can release the source code. The only reason I'm on stock is due to the lack of S-Off and I've already decided to go down to my local phone shop and see if they're doing it.
[HTC One X] Modar007:
internet pass-through dosn't work . my android is 4.1

any help ??
[HTC One X] HebeGuess:
You need to update HTC sync manager.
[HTC One X] GriffinSauce:
Not needed. Only stock recovery apparently, relocking isn't necessary.
[HTC One X] sarkster:
Thanks v much for the info. Didn't expect them to be so on the ball tbh. Their speed with getting this customised, tested and out will determine whether I move my wife's account to 3 from tmo next year.
[HTC One X] BeatsByMessi:
This is also for anyone on 3 in the UK. Please read all the tweets carefully as the guy wasn't actually tweeting them about jelly bean but three thought he was. Also I would take this with a pinch of salt because I think most of us on three know what there like ;)
[HTC One X] Modar007:
already have the most recent version
[HTC One X] Stephie:
It would be a way for HTC to release to the 1% of users that are bothered about receiving the update without having to release (literally) globally, it's only a small percentage and they could easily just upload to different servers. They might not currently officially release RUU's, but they do make them, and they certainly did release them before ota, because that's how we used to do updates, certainly in the days of the HD2. :)
[HTC One X] blankfile99:
__044 still no updated to JB...
[HTC One X] dragonesdenano:
Yeap, i think we will be following Europe, two weeks from first cid european update. At least we r there, too close. I hope not the end of Nov... :)

SkyDragon Sense Rom V1
[HTC One X] teddybig:
Isn't 044 an Asian CID? As I recall Taiwan and Singapore were supposed to get it first, or was that news BS...?
[HTC One X] amirage:
It was total BS and HS...the entire thread got active due to some hoax that spread out from a blogging website. HTC only confirmed JB for Taiwan, they never said anything about any other region; the rest was speculated by major blogging website.

Unless you hear from HTC, don't believe anything that relates to JB and HTC from any other source. Period.