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[HTC One X] PhoenixFx:
This probably wouldn't happen, but just imagine how cool would it be if HTC officially released two ROMs for One series: A stock ROM soon after google releases it and their normal "sensified" ROM for the masses (taking their own sweet time like they do now).

I know maintaining two ROMs need more resources from HTC, but I think its well worth it because that will give them the opportunity to directly compete with Nexus line and win the hearts of lot of Android fans. If they had done it I'm pretty sure HTC would have sold a lot more handsets (what they sell now + a significant percentage of Nexus's share). They could release the stock ROM as a manual install through HTCDev (without the need for unlocking the boot loader or voiding warranty of course) and the normal ROM as an OTA update like they do now.

I also know about the rumored multiple Nexus handsets from various manufacturers (perhaps that is what they are going to do in the future), but unless google had an agreement preventing other manufacturers releasing stock Android handsets (which I don't think they do) nothing prevented HTC from doing it till now. Maybe stock android experience was not that user friendly in the past, but now I think it is as good if not better than 3rd party custom overlays. Like I said, if they release two roms every one will be happy, those who prefer sense get their own ROM and others (like me) who don't care about sense get the stock experience without waiting months.

P.S: those who are going to reply along the lines of "if you want stock android then get a nexus" , then let me say that its not always a simple choice like that for everyone. Nexus is now old, when I bought my One X I was out of my contract and waiting another 6 or 7 months for the next Nexus device wasn't really an option. I didn't buy One X for sense, I purely bought it for it's specs.
[HTC One X] Kermagod:
This is what I said in the first two pages of this thread. Anyone got a contact at HTC that we could put the idea to?
[HTC One X] B-Man2005:
wont ever happen
[HTC One X] LuffyPSP:
i emailed them directly to the htc site, htc dev, and some others awhile ago. and i think its not going to happen.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
The source of the story is SamFirmware. Their notorious for quoting "their sources" and are only right about half the time. Most of the time they're just using common sense to make stuff up to get cross-links to their site to drive up hits. Does anyone think Samsung and HTC aren’t already “testing” JB in some form on the SGS3 and One X? Since they aren't a credible source to begin with there's no downside to them being wrong. Here's their original story. You be the judge of how accurate you think it is.

Galaxy S III will get Android 4.1 soon Samsung test Android 4.1 for Galaxy S II

The insiders of SamMobile reported that Samsung is testing Android 4.1 for the Galaxy S III and Galaxy S II. Samsung is almost ready to update their Galaxy S III devices to Android 4.1. There is no date planned yet but it could be around August / September. More good news is for the Galaxy S II. Samsung started the first tests with success. If Samsung will update the Galaxy S II is still a question, but because the Galaxy S II is still very hot the chances are very high. According to the insider of SamMobile Samsung will update the Galaxy S II if the porting to Android 4.1 on the Galaxy S II goes well. There are no words yet about any other devices. But the insider told us that Samsung will update the HIGH-END devices more and more. That’s why the chances for the Galaxy Note will be bigger than ever. There is still no public statement of Samsung about the Android 4.1 updates.

We of SamMobile put our bets on these three devices after the Galaxy S III.

- Galaxy S II

- Galaxy Note

- Galaxy Tab 7.7

http://www.sammobile.com/2012/07/20...oon-samsung-test-android-4-1-for-galaxy-s-ii/
[HTC One X] fathern:
I am looking forward to seeing how they integrate Sense with Jelly Bean. Could be interesting.
[HTC One X] runwaypimp:
Sense will only ruin it. Why they bother with sense I'll never know.

Just root & you can have JB now!
[HTC One X] Audioboxer:
Most likely the sense camera app will always be better, especially as it will utilize HTC's camera chip (don't believe AOSP does).
[HTC One X] shadehh:
I and many others find htc sense actually looks good. But I and many others again probably wouldn't sacrifice smoothness and battery drain for that beauty. It's that simple. If HTC takes sense and really cuts 70% out of the bloated bull**** they put into it, or at least make things optional, then no one would be whining.

It's just horrible, the difference in smoothness between AOSP roms and Sense roms. Those are world differences, i recently wanted to switch back to sense cause i missed it. I couldn't take how laggy it all is, it's horrible. But whatever.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Anyone buying a phone with an overlay should expect:

1) Some hit in performance because of the added background resources always being used.

2) Updates months after Google releases new versions (either point or full) of Android.

It's always been that way and unless something changes it always will. Even ports written by the devs will be incomplete until the manufacturers provide a leak for them to get the drivers and codecs they need. And as devices with even more RAM and faster processors are released the overlays and OEM-provided apps will grow in scope and size leading you right back to number one above.

Moral of the story? Buy a Nexus device and never have to worry about one and two above. To buy a Samsung or HTC phone and then complain about TouchWiz and Sense while knowing they both lag months behind in updating the s/w on their phones doesn't make a lot of sense.
[HTC One X] autophone:
So what would be the real reason why OEMs aren't using stock UI, if the stock UI is what people want?
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
The enthusiast community (us) has been estimated at 5%. For the other 95% overlays make Android easier to use and more approachable. And none of the manufacturers want to be marginalized as a "hardware provider" doing Google's dirty work while they reap billions in search revenue and content sales. TW and Sense help set Samsung and HTC's phone apart from each other. And not all that the manufacturers add to their devices is evil. Additional audio and video codec support is a good example; Samsung gets special props in those areas. With today's processors and GPUs the lag people are complaining about it is practically imperceptible and certainly not bad enough to affect the use of the phone. Remember Manila on HTC's WinMo phones? That was lag.

I really like Sense. HTC's integration and attention to detail is impressive (I came from TW on an i9100 BTW). I finally got my CR-S650 docks today and the "dock mode" features are really impressive too. So personally, I'm willing to give up a few milliseconds of performance in apps opening and transitions to be more productive. I'd bet a lot of productivity users probably feel the same way. It all comes down to what people do with their phones and what's individually important. There's no right or wrong. What is wrong though is knowing something’s shortcomings, buying it anyway, and then *****ing aimlessly about it. For example, anyone buying a SGS3 today after reading all the reports about it being fragile gives up the right to ***** if they drop their phone and the display shatters. Same thing for someone buying a One X in the UK today being horrified if down the road they need service on their phone and end up being treated shabbily. Knowledge is power only if it's applied beforehand.
[HTC One X] mr1029x:
Well it's not that laggy if you use the Ultra Smooth Rosie and Custom Roms such as ARHD or Insert Coin...

I personally really love Sense UI, it looks simple, but really amazing and eye- catching, that's one of the only reasons left keeping me from buying the GS3
[HTC One X] zerozoneice:
hey, do us a favor: don't bother wondering why.
[HTC One X] Rageypeep:
I love sense, it's tons better then stock IMO.

1) Press and hold for widgets... There is no cluster f*** of stuff in the app tray with apps and widgets

2) Widgets are nicely ordered

3) The contact list is tons better then the stock google one.

Only the first 3 reasons for sense that came into my head.
[HTC One X] RazerRazer04:
To differ from other phones, because there will be always phones with better specs.
[HTC One X] B-Man2005:
So what would be the real reason why OEMs aren't using stock UI, if the stock UI is what people want?

people who buy a hox generally want stock android ?? did i miss something??

facepalm
[HTC One X] PhilipL:
Hi

I can't understand why people say Sense is laggy, it responds instantly for me and when scrolling or swiping the graphics keep up with my finger no matter how fast I swipe. How could it be any quicker without reading my mind?

Jelly Bean "butter" is more about tweaking transitions and the speed of animations to make things appear faster and smoother, while making sure things still "animate" slowly enough for people to see it and say, "That looks cool swishing in and out".

Turn off all the Window effects on a Windows PC and see it speed it up with dialogues appearing and disappear immediately, everything feels faster but visually not as nice. The definition of an animated UI is a deliberate slowing down of the UI with animations.

Regards

Phil
[HTC One X] caedanne:
Full reboot Untick fast boot
[HTC One X] iftikharkazi:
Saudi Arabia

CID HTC_H044

2300 HRS

"No Update"
[HTC One X] Raider0001:
problem is still there, i did rebooting with and without fast boot, youtube app after very long time shows me error 495
[HTC One X] caedanne:
Date and time are correct?
[HTC One X] Raider0001:
yes pretty much its almost perfectly timed with my desktop computer
[HTC One X] zuadao:
have you tryed to restart your router??

you may also try to take this to the q&a section pls
[HTC One X] caedanne:
Ok.. this is wrong thread... ask it in proper forum, and we will try to help you
[HTC One X] AttilaGolik:
For most of you here, today's tweet from HTC about 4 hours ago:
[HTC One X] SweDunda:
okaaaay.. The word "soon!" for me is like 1 hour !
[HTC One X] AttilaGolik:
Anytime in the next 5 days I think ... Less than a week left from October!
[HTC One X] nkahoang:
HTC__621 is here. First I was always being frustrated of the seller give me one from Taiwan (first boot, HOX greeted me with all Chinese / Taiwanese)

Now, I think I should thank him
[HTC One X] matt95:
we have to wait till it arrives to taiwan, then the devs will get their hands on it
[HTC One X] webpatrick:
Under what rock have you been, it's allready in Taiwan! ;)
[HTC One X] Hossam.Abdelsalam:
guys, is it a necessary to relock bootloader?

as this is the second time to wait for the f***ing download and after restart and goes to stock recovery it gives a red exclamation mark with not even 1 word

any tricks guys? or any thing to be highlighted?

am on stock rom, stock kernel with stock recovery, i got the update, downloaded it 2 times till now
[HTC One X] caedanne:
Are you charging? Remove USB cable! Yes you need to relock
[HTC One X] mohsinraza:
How do I get rid off POWER SAVER in notification bar?

Can anyone check if USB OTG working in final version? I'm yet to buy the cable.

PS. Quadrant Score is 6400+ :D

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
The one-man vendetta is rather boring, and based on a whole lot of assumptions on your part, most of which are probably nonsense.

If you don't like Deals, don't use it. That simple.
[HTC One X] nikeman513:
That is stock recovery.... Press and hold power+volume up. You will see words then. Clear cache and FDR. Should be ready for update then.
[HTC One X] ClydeB1:
You can try an app called autostarts in Play Store, I haven't tried it bu apparently it works. OTG has worked on the earlier "leaked" releases so I can't see that HTC would have removed it now
[HTC One X] thewhitebird:
HTC_415

Iraq

(nothing yet!)
[HTC One X] Rhadamanthis:
Htc_405 nothing italy

Inviato dal mio HTC One X
[HTC One X] Hossam.Abdelsalam:
so no this doesn't work, everything goes fine till the 1st quarter of the progress bar at the stock recovery then it dims and it gives the red exclamation mark.

my situation now is:

bootloader relocked

stock rom

stock kernel

stock recovery

no USB cables connected

any solution folks?
[HTC One X] bozoo1903:
VODAP102

Not come JB yet!
[HTC One X] caedanne:
You must try install a compatible RUU... Backup your stuff
[HTC One X] hira151:
Have this JB Asia OTA English language?
[HTC One X] Higgins12:
Last time i checked Italy wasn't in Asia :D - only Asia (Taiwan / China) got the update so far. Wait some Days. Maybe Monday is your lucky Day.

Because you're on a branded Device. Wait for your Carrier to release the Update ~ 2Weeks +
[HTC One X] Hossam.Abdelsalam:
so i started allover again, i've installed my original PJ46IMG.zip, then OTA updated from 2.17.709.2 to 2.17.709.7, then OTA from 2.17.709.7 to 3.14.709.16 downloading now for the 4th time, hope this time it works
[HTC One X] thekillingroad:
Why on earth are they upgrading to 4.1.1?
[HTC One X] nashshafrulrezza:
Wow? finally.. are you the one with some other that hate JB build?
[HTC One X] blankfile99:
Is the another way to check for this update not relocking my HOX? I'm gonna relock...only when it's for real...

my cid is HTC__044

Tks pals!!
[HTC One X] hassan89:
You don't need to relock if you restore to a backup of your original rom.Otherwise you might have to relock and use and ruu.Or find someone who can upload a cwm backup of their original rom.
[HTC One X] mroach:
I've got an HTC__044. Reverted to stock and relocked, no update. Seems contrary to what I've seen around here for Asian models getting the update first. HTC__044 is Asia SEA WWE.
[HTC One X] blankfile99:
Same as mine!!

Still waiting
[HTC One X] hammadsaqib:
No update here in Pakistan HTC_044 :( I hope this is worth the wait
[HTC One X] hassan89:
I'm from pakistan too.I think we will have the update in 2-3 days max ! I think htc is doing asia first.
[HTC One X] hammadsaqib:
Lol Pakistan is in Asia :p but I get what u mean ;)
[HTC One X] Pro4Eva:
Mine is HTC_622 which is HK and i havent recieved it yet so i assume the Asian sub-continent (India, Pakistan,Sri Lanka,Bangladesh) will take a couple of days to get the update..still keep ur fingers crossed...a Jelly Bean update will totally turn this device into an undisputed King Of Android (LG Nexus 4 Anyone)..
[HTC One X] hammadsaqib:
Sorry I don't get this. If I'm already stock with unlocked bootloader and rooted but I have cwm recovery all I need to do is flash stock recovery to get the update right? Can voodoo rootkeeper protect root on my device
[HTC One X] Sentinel196:
Really? So it's as simple as restoring the backup?

I didn't think you could receive an OTA if your bootloader was unlocked. And I thought you needed stock recovery to flash an OTA once it's downloaded.

Can someone please clarify? I started a thread about this yesterday and everyone seems to have a different answer.
[HTC One X] hassan89:
I just received an OTA with a backup i restored yesterday.But to flash it i had to go back to stock recovery yes.It is that simple
[HTC One X] haree:
hi

yes thats all u need to do :good::silly::laugh:

regarding voodoo root keeeper i read that it will protect the root on ur phone u need to try and find out:good::laugh:
[HTC One X] amirage:
Is this really true? http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...x-in-asia-starting-with-taiwan-and-singapore/

It seems that Singapore is also included...any of Singapore friends can validate this??
[HTC One X] blankfile99:
Does anyone confirm CID HTC__044??

tks guys...
[HTC One X] gabuz:
HTC_044 (x.xx.707.x) nothings here!
[HTC One X] amirage:
+1
[HTC One X] nithyakr:
Recieved the Update

I just received the update and its android 4.1.1 not 4.1.2 like the rumors said. But it feels great. The update was 352.87 MB and update the sense to 4+ .. I'm in Sri Lanka and my CID is HTC_621 !!

I have attached some screenshot below..
[HTC One X] Asheel:
Region ?
[HTC One X] sagemda:
709 (Taiwan) as the 1st photo say...
[HTC One X] HebeGuess:
This may confused people. Need to clarify your CID is Taiwan region.. You should get it now, despite your location.

:fingers-crossed:
[HTC One X] nithyakr:
Yeah all the htc phones here in Sri Lanka falls into the taiwan region! Sorry for the confusion!

:highfive:
[HTC One X] GFex:
Finally. I thought they wouldn't release it in October.

Does anyone know when the update will roll over to Austria (or Germany/ Belgium)?
[HTC One X] tasos12:
Good question but let me expand that a bit.

Does anyone know when the OTA "hits" Europe?

Has HTC announced anything regarding this matter?
[HTC One X] BTKBTK:
I checked on all mayor sides yesterday and there wasent anything about an EU release.

sendt via Tapatalk
[HTC One X] thekillingroad:
Nope. Just checked htc.com/tw, it clearly says that it is 4.1.1.

If I got the question right. :)
[HTC One X] webpatrick:
You can check it here, someone will post it when he gets it for your CID
[HTC One X] ClydeB1:
Unless everyone is waiting for someone else to post that fact lol :silly:
[HTC One X] Fedjaz:
I live in sweden. Is there even any point for me searching for a update this weekend? Or does the OTA only come on monday-friday?
[HTC One X] ClydeB1:
All that has been mentioned is Asia for now, so until there is news of the release going to Europe I wouldn't sit waiting if I was you.
[HTC One X] sagemda:
I think this weekend is reserved for Taiwan only, from Monday they will maybe roll out for the rest
[HTC One X] Panicuu:
I bought my One X from Taiwan, CID is HTC__621. Should I be expecting the update anytime soon?
[HTC One X] ClydeB1:
Yes, have you checked to see if it's available yet?
[HTC One X] stuart0001:
Can people with the update check for the bugs in this thread please

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1954929
[HTC One X] Panicuu:
Yep, says my phone is up to date right now.
[HTC One X] ssking:
reboot your phone than check again
[HTC One X] ClydeB1:
Ok, you'll have to keep checking. What rom version are you on?
[HTC One X] walaway:
2.17.707.x does not have the update yet. I keep checking by the hour
[HTC One X] TheMG:
same for 2.17.708
[HTC One X] skeamznz:
Still waiting for update CID htc_621 and im in New Zealand
[HTC One X] hassan89:
Please post here if you do get the update though.I have the same CID as yours.
[HTC One X] Higgins12:
Just flash the OTA, the download link is here somewhere and how to do it too

As long your CID matches the Taiwan release you should be good to go.

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[HTC One X] ClydeB1:
Good point ;), forgot the OTA had already been posted.
[HTC One X] Higgins12:
Devices are S-ON, so if the OTA doesn't match it simply won't flash. Easy as that. Can't break it.

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[HTC One X] caedanne:
Yes I known... Just to advice some people who thinks this is easy to flash the boot inside the Ota.zip like I heard before... Etc...
[HTC One X] skeamznz:
How long can it take a CID to get the update does my location have anything to do with it? Still waiting
[HTC One X] hassan89:
Your location and where you bought the phone from has everything to do with it.The updates are currently rolling out for asia.So if you have an asian handsen you donot have long to wait.
[HTC One X] pappas99:
what if i have an asian handset (CID 044) which came from singapore, but my physical location is finland? can i still expect the update along with the other singapore phones hopefully in the next couple days?
[HTC One X] ClydeB1:
Yes, it may take a little longer than those actually in Singapore, but you should still get the OTA
[HTC One X] khoaitaychienvn:
Yes papa
[HTC One X] sagemda:
i too have cid_044 and my curent location is in Romania, last 2 updates i got them the same time as other 044 around the globe:cool:
[HTC One X] hamdir:
Engadget is reporting roll out in both Singapore and Taiwan

But so far nothing for Singapore
[HTC One X] Panicuu:
Is there any difference between flashing the OTA manually and waiting for it, for example will I still receive OTAs after flashing manually? I'm impatient!
[HTC One X] ilamaan:
Maybe like yesterday it will be at a later hour on the day.
[HTC One X] mohsinraza:
I'm from Pakistan and updated to JB last night. Check your phone's firmware. It shouldn't be .709 because only TW (709) have been updated. My cousin's phone is .707 (China) and he's waiting.

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] hammadsaqib:
Yup, .707. Just my luck :(
[HTC One X] bashir111:
Can HOX bootloader get unlocked after JB update???... should i unlock now since im on ics...before i get update for jb.?
[HTC One X] :
anyone got CID 001? I wanna know when i'm expecting it! I'm in Australia
[HTC One X] AttilaGolik:
News about the update: about 15 minutes ago in HTC's Facebook page:
[HTC One X] ClydeB1:
No difference and you can still receive future OTA's
[HTC One X] joeyh51:
I'm on CID_001, wondering the same thing. I'm in the UK.
[HTC One X] matt95:
of course you can....
[HTC One X] Kiwi_Dude:
I wonder if I could trouble you with a question or two...

I have decided to go back to stock as there are rumours abound that the update for HTC_044 to JB is just around the corner... I have done the "getvar" thing and it shows that I need 1.29.707.11 RUU and that will be replacing ARHD 2.17.401.2.

Am I right in thinking I need the 1.28 Recovery image to flash a 1.29.707.11 RUU, or will this not work as I have ARHD 2.17? I don't wanna screw it up! Downloading 1.29 now, all backed up and ready to go!

Many thanks!
[HTC One X] ClydeB1:
Note, there is no such CID as CID_001, there is however HTC__001, O2___001, VODAP001, ORANG001 etc and each of those are different cid's and will require separate updates to be released by different parties. In fact there are at least 15 different cid's that end in 001 ;)

---------- Post added at 02:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:06 PM ----------

No, there's no need for the recovery image. You may as well update to 2.17.707.3 (this is the latest version). All you need to do is to lock your bootloader and then in fastboot mode run the ruu on your pc. This will replace all components, including recovery.
[HTC One X] Panicuu:
Sorry, I'm new to this. Don't want to create a new thread because it's a simple question I assume. Where do I put the firmware.zip prior to flashing? Any specific folder? Thanks.
[HTC One X] pehkblui:
The latest is actually 2.17.707.3.

If you have the RUU, you can extract the recovery and boot. There is a thread on recover from custom to stock. It's quite detailed.

If you install 1.29.707.11, you might get a false excitement when it tries to update to 2.17 for you. :D
[HTC One X] Kiwi_Dude:
Sir, you're a star! I know you and I are in the same boat in terms of waiting for the HTC_044 release, but I bow to your superior knowledge!

Thanks for your advice. :good:
[HTC One X] ClydeB1:
You must take the whole OTA zip (not just the firmware zip) and place it on the root of your sd card. Rename it to update.zip and then flash via stock recovery.
[HTC One X] Kiwi_Dude:
I'd already thought about the update to 2.17 if I had flashed 1.29, but thanks to advice gratefully received, I'll be going straight to the stock 2.17! So, no false excitement for me tonight! Even the wife has got fed up waiting and gone to bed, so no excitement for her either!!!!!
[HTC One X] EddyOS:
Doesn't work, stock recovery can't see the internal SD card so you can't flash an OTA file manually
[HTC One X] ClydeB1:
You sure mate? I haven't tried it personally as haven't had an ota to update, but according to this thread you can.:confused:
[HTC One X] chrispy_212:
Hey,

So I tried flashing the update manually. HTC_001, never rooted, never bootloader unlocked.

I'm stuck in a bootloop, and I think I'm screwed. My HBOOT is now 1.28.000, so no RUU will install.

Any help will be met with... um... candy. Lots of candy.
[HTC One X] mibikin:
I think that's for doing it through CWM.