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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] aimetti:
Yep compared to other phones this forum is at a standstill.

Its amazing what the devs have done so far with the limitations but so pathetic on att and htc's part.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Root-Maniac:
How about when we email HTC asking about the source code, we include that we plan on taking action as well, getting lawyers, filing lawsuits, etc, etc. Also say the wrest of the community plans on doing the same.... Maybe it will help... Idk...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Send this:

Dear HTC support,

I would hereby like to request the Linux Kernel source code for my HTC One X EVITA phone according to section 3 of the GNU General Public License v2 under which the Linux kernel the Evita is based on is licensed. A download URL will be fine.

I send this weekly
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Root-Maniac:
Ok I sure will, thanks Gunny!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ethantarheels123:
on it..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Oh well...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shorty6049:
Interested to hear how he "discovered" that the source was going to be out this past weekend...

Figured it was too good to be true
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
Yeah I hear ya :( soon I hope. Y'all do have a **** ton more devs to keep ya busy with roms and mods, that's a plus. I liked sprint, had og Evo. once I experienced 4g on tmobile I had jump ship though. Oh and sorry for OT gunny ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] powerwagon:
"Discovery" is information that must be shared between attorneys.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Grrr. HTC released source for a few phones today including the One V which has JUST come out. Where's my pitchfork and torch?

EDIT:

Standby

they keep adding more....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
crossing fingers....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shorty6049:
The suspense is killing me
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I keep refreshing
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kiosk77:
Looks like it's been released for virtually every carrier except for AT&T. Coming back to AT&T was the biggest mistake I made this year.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
None of the evita source is out yet.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shorty6049:
Yeah seriously... same here. Their network has been faster than it was when i was on sprint, and I'm paying about half as much due to joining a family plan, but at what cost??? AT WHAT COST! :crying:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
They are obviously withholding it for some BS reason. Guaranteed it's AT&T that doesn't want them to release it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
well crap looks like they're done for the day. Still no damned source.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] powerwagon:
What's the link to look for source release?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dB Zac:
it makes me wish the aussies had LTE LOL
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
They're still uploading...

I feel like I'm waiting for Santa Claus or something
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Ragingsheep:
We do.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JBM12G:
So do we have any grounds to take legal action?:fingers-crossed:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kiosk77:
People should tweet their dissatisfaction with AT&T.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shorty6049:
just did, but something tells me they don't care what I say... lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Holy crap they dropped the Wildfire S on a lot of carriers...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] MyronJ906:
I guess they expected it to spread like....

Too obvious?

Whatever.

WILDFIRE!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ok, ok... It wasn't that funny :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] rchms6:
I have also been pestering HTC Dev to release the Kernel source. I received the canned "90-120 day" response as well. This is my first Android device from switching from iPhone so I hope I haven't made the wrong choice selecting a HTC device. I love the phone, but they aren't being very developer friendly. I will keep pestering them on a weekly basis. :good:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
They may be done for the day. Hasn't been a new file added for at least 2 hours.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shorty6049:
I'm kind of in the same boat as you... I didn't have an iphone but I was a bit apprehensive buying another HTC phone after some of the issues associated with the Evo 4g. I assumed it would be better all-around now because of HTC's new commitment to developer support, though in this case its seemingly like it may have been my decision to switch to ATT that got the best of me...

I'm really going to try to stick to my original plan (buy nexus) after my 2 year contract is up with my HOX this time, but I'm sure they'll announce a new nexus phone about 9 months before I'm due to upgrade and HTC or Samsung will hit it out of the park again...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] aimetti:
Yep my next phone will most definitely be a nexus again. I went from iPhones for 4 years and tried out the gnex for 6 months as my first android. After that I decided to try a different company phone (one x). Much different. The phone it self is awesome, but being android, I thought the whole point was freedom and the ability to do what you want with the phones. This is why i left iPhones a year ago.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Kamran224:
I'm with you guys. Just looking at the g nex forums kinda makes me regret my decision
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jags_the1:
Lol...you guys talk as if there is no life other then flashing roms.... All you need is single port of each rom and you have those..just wait for kernel release we might even get jb soon after that...and look closely in g nex forums...all are identical roms with different titles.... ..
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shorty6049:
It's more just the hassle that seems to always come with non-nexus phones. If its not an unreleased kernel source, it something else dumb (like not being able to unlock the bootloader via HTC dev, or its having to wait for workarounds for everything, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I love this phone and honestly , Sense 4.0 is great compared to the last version, it's just annoying that everything's such a struggle
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SoberGuy:
It's deal with this stuff, or have full AOSP on inferior hardware.

I'll take superior hardware and the great devs of XDA any day.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nupe_1911:
I really don't get this. One XL has MIUI, AOKP, CM9 and multiple other Sense ROM's. Also, the phone was unlocked and rooted within a month of being released. Source will inevitably be released sooner rather than later at this point. What exactly is the issue?!?! At the end of the day the Gal. Nex. is a substantially inferior device and no amount of redundant ROM's is going to change that.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
No it isn't. There are some bugs in all of the AOSP ROMS that require source to fix.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nupe_1911:
There are some bugs, yes, but nothing that stops them from being used as daily drivers.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
That depends on what you use your phone for. If you are a gamer, the multi-touch bug is a deal breaker. If you use camcorder a lot, that bug is a deal breaker as well. Neither of those are likely to be fixed until we have source.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SoberGuy:
So the options are:

1 - Rock the HOX

A - with some very solid, stable, and elegant Sense ROMs

B - with sense-less ROMs that are quite functional, albeit with some quirks, until.such time as source is released, fully resolving all quirks

2 - Move to inferior hardware, and regret that once source is (finally) released.

I'll take anything in 1 over 2 any day.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jags_the1:
Ppl just like to cry...they always feel grass is greener on the other side.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] MyronJ906:
+1 dude;plus one.

Every extra day without source, I kind of start to think "Man, maybe I should try to acquire a different device", but F that, this device is excellent. The acclaimed GS3 is not even almost worth the cash someone would want in addition to my beloved One X. Anything else would be a step down.

This phone is currently perfect to me. I'm happily running CM9 and loving every second of it. It's a great build, and makes my phone feel just like it should *for me*. I have a Playstation Vita for gaming. I never record video much anyway, but currently it IS working. I haven't run into a bug with it just yet, so I'm only missing burst camera which I believe h8rift said would be coming soon.

Right now, without kernel source, the One X is my Android dream. With it, it will only be perfection...Oh, and if I could get an Atrix style laptop dock (just throwing that out there)

We just need to be patient, we all know we have the best device. It's just waiting for its full potential (which WILL come). Until then, our AWESOME devs are doing the very best they can with what we have available.

EDIT: and that's a damn fine job.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ThePhoneGeek:
The holdup will certainly be on the AT&T side.

They are great at strong arming mfg's into keeping things locked down as long as possible. They can't strong arm Apple and Samsung right now but they strong arm everyone else they can.

I wouldn't expect this to be released until HTC absolutely has to...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shorty6049:
Wait.... :eek:

the video camera works in CM9?? Wtf am I waiting for?!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] MyronJ906:
I haven't had any problems with it in h8rift's latest build, EXCEPT for if I try recording a front camera video. My back camera has been completely stable thus far, but some front issues.

Do a nandroid backup and give it a try sometime just to try recording some unimportant things. That way you can decide if you trust it consistently enough for important moments. If you do, using it full time is almost a no brainer :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shorty6049:
I'll flash it tonight. Honestly I don't take many videos , but when I do, it's always best if they work. Photo ability is a lot more important to me (becuase my boss often asks me to take pictures of things to send to various suppliers and stuff here at work)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Aviras:
Peeps keep saying the lack of source is AT&T's fault, but if I'm not mistaken, we still lack source for Canadian, Asian and Australian One XL's as well, correct? Surely it isn't AT&T, then, that's preventing source.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
You are absolutely correct my friend. Great point. So lets all spam HTC instead of ATT.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bpear96:
They all use the same source, well im pretty sure they do. So only one will be released for all. And that one has not been released yet, and there is a good chance its AT&T holding it back. Just like they wouldnt let you unlock your bootloader (thanks SuperCID :) )

HTC has Released source for the One S, and Tegra 3 One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Actually each carrier has their own separate source release. Look at htcdev there are about 10-15 Wildfire-S sources.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Aviras:
That's not entirely accurate; I believe everyone OTHER THAN AT&T has been able to achieve boot loader unlock through HTC Dev. For instance, from Day 1 I was able to unlock the bootloader on my Rogers One X (same phone as at&t just a different carrier). So I'd agree in stating that the AT&T provider is responsible for blocking AT&T One X's, but it makes no sense for that to be the case (as it clearly isn't) for everyone else.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kiosk77:
I can use your very same argument to say that AT&T IS responsible for holding back the HOX ;) hear me out here...

All other carriers can achieve unlock through HTCDEV, that's because you use your device ID, which HTC has and knows which carrier the device went out to. So when it's AT&T they deny unlock.

One can also asume, that by having the kernel source, it will be possible for the hacker community to find all sorts of things about the phone. Maybe install Google wallet, maybe s-off, maybe jellybean, etc. (not sure if s-off is possible, just threw it in there). With all these possibilities, AT&T told HTC not to release the code.

Then again, we're all just guessing ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JBM12G:
I just sent this to the Canadian HTC site:

Hello, I am requesting the kernel source code for the Rogers HTC One X. The kernel is based of the android kernel which in turn is based off of the Linux kernel. Under the GNU general public licence the kernel source code must be released. I am wondering how I can obtain this.

I also sent it with a copy of the GPL. I will see what I get as a response.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
You made a typo. Off not of.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JBM12G:
Crap.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slackercow:
I'm guessing they're releasing source along with that v2 update that we saw leaked a while ago. I wonder if DG has any info on when that is supposed to be out

edit: this kind of delay is actually driving me right back in the direction of samsung phones :/
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
So you say that ATT is holding up Rogers in Canada from getting source ? Really ? Also holding up the Asian Source and Australian? All because they dont want us to use wallet or jellybean? So the whole s4 One X world is being held up by ATT? I'd be willing to bet you any amount of money that that is NOT the case. All of us are speculating on why source isn't released yet. I wouldn't be surprised if this whole apple debacle might be delaying it for whatever reason. Lawsuits make you do things a little different :) but its not because ATT says i dont want the Americans to have source so i want you HTC to keep it from the world or else!

---------- Post added at 02:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:25 AM ----------

What v2 update? are you talking about the ruu that DG had? thats just a leaked ruu thats all, it may never see an official release.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slackercow:
Yeah, the leaked ruu. I just figure they're still working on the kernel. I don't care if they don't release, for a while, I just hate not knowing why
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Reamer09:
Sent the email that gunny posted earlier and what a surprise, received the same generic 90-120 email back...stingy bastards... For the small number of people that really want the kernel source would it really affect AT&T in a "negative" way to just allow HTC to release it (or whoever is in charge of that decision). When I say "negative" I'm talking about the increased number of bricked phones that people would have because they're to lazy to read and follow directions step by step...

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] cbasse:
Sent Gunnyman's message via HTC dev site yesterday, and here was the response I got this morning (gotta give them credit for prompt response! ;-)) - is this the same everyone else is getting?

"Thank you for contacting HTC regarding the HTC One X Kernel Source. I know that this code is important to the development community and I will be happy to assist you with the correct information regarding this. HTC will release source code in accordance with any applicable open source license terms, i.e. GPL v2.0. HTC will typically publish on http://developer.htc.com or htcdev.com the Kernel open source code for recently released devices as soon as possible. HTC will normally publish this within 90 to 120 days. This time frame is within the requirements of the open source community. Other source codes, which are not required to be disclosed by the open source license terms, unfortunately cannot be disclosed by HTC as they may be proprietary to HTC or its licensor."

I want to send a follow-up asking what date they're using as the start of the 90 - 120 day window...worth it?

What else can we do?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kiosk77:
Ouch, that response pretty much says tough luck. Ask them if they want us to pick Samsung for our next device ;) j/k
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
All they offer is a canned response. :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NJGSII:
We should go to HTC US Headquarters and offer a can of whoop ass back.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] rchms6:
I sent a request for the Kernel source again through HTC Dev and asked for clarification regarding the 90-120 day time.

"Thank you for your reply.

Rich, the 90-120 days would be from the release date of the phone or from 22 days after the release of an update."

I asked them to please clarify the "22 days after the release of an update" and if that mean the timer of 90-120day started after an additional 22 days from an update release.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] NJGSII:
Restart based off what update?

The evita is on carriers worldwide which I'm sure release updates at different times.

Hasn't 1.85 been out officially for longer than 22 days?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Root-Maniac:
So guys, the gnu says 60-90 days...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dreadlord369:
Well I think the At&t One X was released on May 6th so its been around 60 days...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kingdamian42:
Don't think I can deal without source much longer. The nexus is back in stock and looking mighty nice...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
Then the Rogers is at 90.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
And the evo 4G lte source is out... Smh
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ethantarheels123:
they did just have a software update yesterday, so I am almost 100% positive our source will come out almost immediately after we get the next software update, which I'm guessing is based off of or similar to the leaked 1.88
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
We've had a software update since the phone was released. We should have source.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slackercow:
think i'm gonna get a gnex, as well. i just need to know wtf is causing the delay!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] rchms6:
Wow, this looks like we will be waiting forever. Pretty sure this will be my first and last HTC device....

"Rich, if a phone gets a new Rom, then it would be 22 days from the time it is sent out (it takes time for all the ROMS to get out) and then 90-120 days.

HTC Technical Support does not have information regarding when new kernel source codes are

uploaded to the HTC Dev website. I recommend to keep checking back on the HTC Dev website for new

source codes to be posted. "
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I'm seriously considering selling it for a gnex
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
so 1.85 came out. This means the counter is reset and we're looking at 90-120 days give or take?

Grrr.

Meanwhile Samsung releases their sources before the device hits the market.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] rchms6:
Yep, that's the way i'm reading it. I replied with that same statement you just made about Samsung. It's pretty disappointing to say the least.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
I'm investigating how to file a formal complaint regarding GPL compliance.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kilo89:
Rogers phones never received any updates though, so it still should be released "90 to 120 days" after they were released in Canada, which was end of April.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
So end of august for Rogers then.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Matt1408:
90 Days!

Still nothing :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
I wonder if there may be some sloppiness in the kernel that would allow easy s-off with source. Maybe they are trying to clean it up (lock it down) before they release it? At this point i dont know. just guessing. Why could it be? I mean really.. Its most likley not because of ATT due to other carriers not receiving source either..Anybody have any ideas? Lets hear them. Think about it before you post... What do you think HTC's real reason for delaying is?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thedauntlessone:
Actually, that's quite plausible. They want the Evo LTE lock down on the HTC One X before releasing source considering someone confirmed new HBOOT in the new Roger's OTA due in a couple weeks. Wouldn't be surprised to get kernel source after that OTA goes live.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] atticusmas:
'cause they're soul sucking, money hogging, lazy scumbags who don't care about what us modders want?

They make a good phone though!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Itaintrite:
To be fair, they have no reason to help "us modders". We're not helping sell their devices. An average smartphone user doesn't need root or recovery. So they don't owe us anything.

HTC hemorrhaging money...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] the_scotsman:
Guys, just keep tweeting them asking WTF, where is it etc...I do it every week or so :good:

(just keep it clean :p)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
Actually could not disagree more. while it is true that the average users do not root or have custom recovery, active development on a particular phone definitely contributes to the aura/mystique of that particular model, lots of people are aware of it, therefore helping sales. Sammy has been using it to its advantage for quite some time now, look at the success S3 over Hox even though the hardware is imho far inferior.

WE NEED SOURCE !!!!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] TheNightHawk223:
Even I'm new to all this but even I feel the need for the source. Time to send a..... Few emails ;).
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jags_the1:
we should request all people here to flood htc's mail :P

i think if we try harder and we can get it earlier. few people might have already given up .
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
Just got my reply from my weekly email with the standard bs about 90-120 days, so I just sent another one asking for a more precise timeframe.

not holding my breath:crying:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Root-Maniac:
lol, I wonder what there excuse is gonna be when 120 days is up???? hopefully we will have it by then because they have been giving us the 90-120 email pretty standard lately...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skizzy034:
Seeing that cm10 rom really makes me want source now. Imagine what it could be. They can only get so far without source.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] thcue:
Yeah it's really becoming a load of crap IMO they need to release thing...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
and here it is after my reply asking for a more specific time frame: "The time frame for the release of the Kernel Source Code is between 90-120 days after software release. At this time, I do not have a specific date available to provide you with. I apologize for the inconvenience"

blah :(

and they can apparently reset the 90-120 clock after a new software release which evidently they're working on (new asia ota, etc..) so who the f#$k knows, i'm really getting tired of waiting. Really and reluctantly thinking of getting on the Sammy wagon. :confused: