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[General Topics] _MetalHead_:
Agreed on paper its not that big of a difference, but when you're holding a 2 in one hand and a 3 in the other, the difference feels substantial. Battery life I suppose is decent when you compare it to other tablets, but again side by side with the 2 it's just not as good. Every review on the net comments about battery life not being as good. Now if I never owned an iPad 2 I would probably think the 3 is great but there are times I wish I never sold my iPad 2. Pound for pound I still think it's the best tablet available.
[General Topics] monkeyluis:
I have both. In fact I have all 3. Lol.
[General Topics] thebobp:
One of the reasons I ended up not getting one of those high-res, 10.1 inch tablets :(

In all honestly, I think this is a wonderful day. Since this is about Google's phone, they have to (I presume) finally get behind it for reals, rather than just letting Samsung take the heat. And the PR ****storm that could pop up against patents could be massive if every player does their stuff right.
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
Tf300, tf700, tf201, or new acer iconia a700. The new google nexus looked promising until I noticed no sd card slot! I have a tf201 prime and it is very good. Tf300 is the same, but no ips2. If you don't care about using in direct sunlight it will be fine. Microcenter has it for $350.
[General Topics] Gorjess:
Apple should've ban the Gnex last year if they wanted to make some more troubles..

These bans actually backfires to Apple.. it's not providing much benefits for them..
[General Topics] vetvito:
Everyone is over reacting, this will go to trial, and most likely be thrown out.
[General Topics] Narcistic:
waiting to see the SGS3 added to the ban list..
[General Topics] acseazzu:
Apple is just sueing for a phone being a phone that is not an iPhone.
[General Topics] mistermentality:
By the time it goes to trial it will be six months maybe a year and the nexus will be surpassed and in mean time samsung lose money and possibly customers which all helps apple.

Also the cases are not likely to be thrown out in courts as the patents have been used successfully already in other cases.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[General Topics] mistermentality:
They tried but were told to bring a new case after current samsung case.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[General Topics] mixedguy:
A Korean judge banning Korean products from the US? Apple is trolling Samsung hard!
[General Topics] _Variable:
Why not lets all calm down, the Gnex isnt the only Android phone! there are hundreds of others! Why overreact over a ban of 1 phone?
[General Topics] smile_ppl:
That's because the Gnex is a pure Google phone.
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
Just wait until Google has their own network! Just a matter of time.

Google Wireless sounds good!
[General Topics] darktranquility18:
They just announced Jelly Bean and its primarily releasing on that device. Yes it is a big deal lol. This affects google more than it affects other manufacturers, except Samsung of course.
[General Topics] Trewyy:
The Galaxy Nexus is Androids flag ship phone. It was the first phone running Ice Cream Sandwich, and the first phone to get an official Jelly Bean update.

Besides being backed by Pure Google, the phone has fantastic reviews, something many Android phones don't have.

Although it is certainly not the best selling android phone, it is certainly near the top.

It is a huge deal to have this phone banned.
[General Topics] C.Flat:
#boycottapple is now trending on google+
[General Topics] kingsway8605:
And all 10 of the real google plus users mean business!
[General Topics] JaZart:
I use google+

But found that hilarious
[General Topics] mistermentality:
It's because of the use of patents that are often simple (such as the slide to unlock, for which there is prior art) and sometimes so obvious that you shouldn't be able to patent them (such as using apps while making a phone call) to attack apples more successful competitors.

It is one phone now but they also want to ban the S3 and other phones such as the one x from htc.

This case opens the door for more bans as the patents used are key to the usabilty and ease of use of a mobile os.

People realise what the recent rulings mean for android as an os and understandably it causes disquiet.

It's telling that android is singled out by apple yet other operating systems using the same patented features such as blackberry are not.

Why? Because blackberry is not a threat to apple, android is.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[General Topics] sniper:
Even more reasons to hate apple... And now they're basically saying that the Google search engine was their idea... A patent for "being able to search multiple sources through a single interface (Apple's Siri)"

Really?
[General Topics] Matt3333:
Any compitition = Lawsuit
[General Topics] mistermentality:
Yes it surprises me they not only managed to patent that but then also managed to use it against google.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[General Topics] xdaid:
This is the point, they got patents they don't deserve and their lawsuits are just ridiculous or even outrageous.

Sorry to say this but if apple is doing bad the court is doing worst! despite 101 pages of injunction order the court's decision is still, absolutely, unbelievable.
[General Topics] GR36:
no they would loose millions in revenue
[General Topics] john_tillman:
Not millions. Bilions may be. 5 - 6% of their annual revenue comes from Apple. So, yeah, it is a big deal for them to keep Apple as a customer. There was a recent incident when a rumor floated in the S. Korean stock market that Apple is dropping Samsung from supplying memory for next gen devices and the stock tumbled 6% within hours. So, as Joe Biden puts it "It is a BFD".

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It certainly wasn't google's idea. Those who are old enough have used other crappy search engines that existed before google. And, google isn't a saint of a search engine either. They paid Yahoo $2.2 billion (in stocks) when they IPO'd to settle the claim they stole adwords IP from Idealabs (later acquired by Overture which itself was acquired by Yahoo which then had 4% stake in Google). Nobody pays $2.2 billion to settle a lawsuit just because they have money. Where there is a smoke, there is a fire.
[General Topics] calum96:
I also read somewhere that Steve jobs stole the hardware and software designs off another small company and marketed it as there own because it wasn't patented or marketed very well, can't remember where it was exactly see if anyone can find this... maybe if this was brought to light it would change a lot of peoples minds
[General Topics] john_tillman:
Never start a rumor that can't be googled.
[General Topics] mingkee:
Soon somebody will go to destroy Steve Job's grave for what Apple has done.
[General Topics] GR36:
that is apples back bone... the lisa, mac os ....can anyone say PARC

apple have been offered a licience on android handsets and have refused. which goes to show it not reveue driven..... must have another agenda (i wonder what that is)
[General Topics] john_tillman:
I briefly tried iPad 3 before settling for low priced iPad 2. I found no difference physically - may be because I work out too much ;) ...In all seriousness, it wasn't a big difference. I think those who like to read may find iPad 3 a better alternative. The screen looks just gorgeous and reading on it is absolutely easy on eyes. Having said that, not into gaming - so, never tried anything except stupid angry birds. I call it stupid because I absolutely adore that game.

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This is one rumor that never dies in Android forums. Apple paid a million dollars to just take a look at Xerox PARC inventions and replicate whatever they could. Yes, it was not technology transfer or whatever. But, it was not stolen. They paid Xerox to let them see their inventions with full intent of commercialization. It is similar to paying a royalty to an inventor but instead of % of sales - an upfront lump sum.

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That is exactly why he uses 'MagSafe' connector for his Macs. :))
[General Topics] xdaid:
Oh, so how could it be an apple's idea then?

So basically you agree with us, apple does not deserve that siri patent at all.

Even the other alleged violations look like pretty ridiculous, here is an example:

http://www.androidcentral.com/apple-granted-patent-slide-unlock-even-though-it-existed-2-years-they-invented-it
[General Topics] john_tillman:
Yeah, and no one knows whose idea it was. But, that is the pity in our patent system. It is just like land grab in wild west in 18th century. Whoever laid the claim first, the patent becomes their. No wonder patent trolling is a $20 billion industry.
[General Topics] calum96:
Yes PARC I think that was it :) do you know of a link where we could read more about this? A reliable one?
[General Topics] mistermentality:
I'm afraid you're wrong. He did not pay Xerox, Xerox paid him the million for shares in his company.

http://m.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/05/16/110516fa_fact_gladwell

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[General Topics] xdaid:
Nothing was stolen from Xerox but all was copied from PARC.

Even if apple paid (or get paid) for the tour in the Xerox research labs in fact they shamelessly copied ALL that they saw and this was actually not intended to be.

Pretty curious how a company whose fortune is based off a copy now try to sue any other company for ideas that their selves (apple) copied from others (about the latest lawsuit, no original ideas in those four patents).

Next scenario will be apple suing each other for using wonderful innovations, taken from android, that iOS6 brought to us...

I'm NOT an apple hater but definitely i don't like how they behave nowadays.
[General Topics] xaccers:
Tell me about it, work have forced iPad 3's on all of is and it is crap.

Slow, heavy, pointless.

The AppStore sucks compared with google play.

Apps are huge and as someone used to android they are bloody expensive. Tried a free RDP client, screen is so innacurate it is unusable while on my Sensation I have no trouble navigating around a remote machine.

Safari is slower than IE5 and Dolphin, while faster crashes far too often.

The damn thing crashes apps more often than my wife's HD2 running a custom rom.

I really cannot see why anyone would actually buy such a heap of junk.
[General Topics] mcvigo:
Is this effective noe? Ordered one like 2 days ago. Should i be fine?
[General Topics] IamPro:
What are the longterm implications? Will this affect Jelly Bean update for GNex and other phones in the near future? Will JB include the voice search? Will prices of GNex go down or up?

What about these ridic patients Apple was able to get for the most basic stuff?
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
Longterm this is going to get worse before it gets better. If the courts would just grow a pair and actually do their jobs, all this could be settled. If apple would pay the fees that they were ordered to pay to other patent holders, maybe others would try to make a deal with them before it having to go to court. Apple refuses to play fair, so nobody wants to deal with them. Would you?

The courts have their heads in their asses and obviously won't do their job, so be prepared for this to go the distance.

Call the us atty general and make complaints about apple abusing the patent/court system to exert their will, while refusing to abide to any decisions that go against them. They can't have it both ways!
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
Google apple frand. They just want everyone to bend over for them. They are ordered to pay licensing, they refuse. Then they demand others to cave to frand so they can use someone else's patent for pennies. But they won't pay in the end. When others want apple to do the same, apple says no way. Unreal. If you do business with them you are a fool.

PS: Just because foxconn owns their slaves, doesn't mean it's ok! Shameful and pathetic company. Poster child for what has gone wrong in America. Killing, enslavement, and theft is ok as long as it is profitable! Sad state of affairs.
[General Topics] GianniDPC:
I have nothing to say but F*ck Apple leave us (Android Phones) Alone :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: I'll never ever buy an Apple product I never did and I wil never do !
[General Topics] dahn8:
I think you should be fine :D
[General Topics] Meaple:
I enjoyed watching this. http://patentabsurdity.com/watch.html
[General Topics] Slap-Yourself :):
Apple really hasn't invented anything. :/
[General Topics] Infekxion:
Apple can ban away. Look what happened with the One series and linkify. Google could sell the Nexus with no OS on it and we would still buy it. Why? because Android is open sourced and we can put on or take of what ever we want. Voice recognition? I've had that since my Hero. Slide to unlock? go the HTC way and "pull the ring to unlock". Apple did invent something, expensive toys and excellent marketing. Look at what the advertise, Siri and the Retina display and it sells just on that.

My thoughts are when the Nexus was released in America it wasn't a threat because Verizon favored the iphone. Most of AT&Ts customer base favors Android and Apple new with the One X the iphone 5 would have some serious competiton. The Nexus is now on Sprint and Verizon and the unsubbed GSM is selling for $350. Here comes Samsung with the Almighty Galaxy S III released on EVERY carrier. After the success of the SII, Apple has to use its only known tactic, and it's not innovation.

Maybe Google should close source Android for a bit, Apple stole weather, stocks, the notification pulldown, and making a folder is like having an app drawer.
[General Topics] mistermentality:
People who flash roms might buy a phone with no os but most people wouldn't and apple know this and know they can hit android phone manufacturers where it hurts...the wallet.

You mention things like voice search and how you have had that for years well that's the point...if that is deemed to break apples patent you can't have it because google will remove it and you'll have to use an old undeveloped version. Same with data tapping, etc.

Apple are trying to make android a second rate rival by litigating to remove things iphone can do so that iphone is seen as the only user friendly phone.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
Funny how windows mobile had voice command years before ios existed. MS should cripple apple and demand it is removed.

Or how about it is an obvious idea to anyone, nobody owns it and everyone wins. Which is what should be happening anyway. Copyright your code by all means, but the idea of voice commands actually goes back to Star Trek. Maybe Roddenberry's estate should pay apple a visit.

Call and email the US Attorney General and demand an investigation into these shenanigans. They are wasting tons of our money abusing our courts.
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
Keep calling them out for what they are, liars, thieves, and slave owners. Spread the word, encourage others to boycott, and help defeat these self entitled greedmongers.
[General Topics] Infekxion:
Agreed. And iphone is less user friendly but get rid of the robot and what do you have?
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
I would compare crApple to Fisher Price, but I wouldn't want to insult FP!

The masses are conned into believing that their products are high quality devices that "just work". Funny how that couldn't be further than the truth. Just check out crApple's own forums. Hundreds and hundreds of pages of users with the same problems that never get fixed. Actually very funny to read.

Long live open source, long live Android!
[General Topics] _MetalHead_:
They actually are high quality products that for the most part just work. Every electronic device has issues, and when you have millions and millions of people that own a particular device and some band together on internet forums to complain of course it is going to seem like they have a lot of problems. Truth is, only a small percentage of iPhone users have issues, Antennagate aside. Apple would not have gotten to where they are if they didn't sell very high quality products. I love every Apple product I own and can definitely attest to their quality. I will never, and I mean NEVER buy any laptop that does not say MacBook Pro on it ever again. I even loved my iPhone, I just love Android even more. Sure Apple makes some very questionable decisions, and really holds out on adding features to their products but that doesn't mean that the product they put out isn't very good.
[General Topics] masondoctorjt:
Yet everyone I know with an iPhone has issues with it, and I know a lot of people with iPhones, yet they just put up with it. That should be their slogan... Apple "you just put up with it, cause someone told me it was beautiful"
[General Topics] _MetalHead_:
And everyone I know has no issues with theirs... and I had none with mine as far as actual problems were concerned. Massive annoyances, yes, but everything worked the way it was designed to. The whole "Apple makes crap products but everybody things their great because Apple tells them so" argument is childish and comical. They have built a reputation for making quality devices because they actually make quality devices. It's cool that you don't like them, but that doesn't make them any less quality.
[General Topics] neyenlives:
wait a minute.....I like this idea.....sell hardware with nothing on it.....customer buys it, part of the initial powering on is to accept an over the air software install that comes directly from Google's servers. This way the hardware manufacturers as long as they avoid the obvious hardware offences....then Apple can't sue them over software features.

Force Apple to go after Google instead of haggling the hardware manufacturers. Because something tells me the reason they go after the little guys is because they know in a Apple vs. Google all-in case Apple would lose.
[General Topics] armyboy11b:
I seen an article that came out today saying the judge was calling appl absurd and childish idk but doubt it'll be banned
[General Topics] xdaid:
This makes me laugh a bit. Not too long ago big Tobacco's companies were at the top, so cigarettes are high quality products then?

In this world if you sell BS or good stuff does not matter, it's all about marketing.

Btw, for those who still believe the poor apple is just protecting itself from nasty and bigger companies then take a look here, there's no bigger company all over the world:

http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/10/technology/apple_market_cap/index.htm
[General Topics] zack370z:
Samsung will destroy Apple now.
[General Topics] _MetalHead_:
Are you really comparing Apple to big tobacco? And you expect me to take that seriously?
[General Topics] Gorjess:
The sad world we've been living today..

Swyped from my GT-i9100
[General Topics] xtc714:
And it's going to get ever sadder as time passes by
[General Topics] gunzy83:
Wait for the infinity IMO. The Prime is fantastic but at this point in time just wait :victory:
[General Topics] jmitr:
I have to agree with some users here, like it or not apple makes quality products. They also are great for ease of use (come on, how many non tech friends did you recommend the iphone too?, myself, a metric fucton. My own wife is not overly technical and therefor has an ipad.). Great product support (warranty, which you can even buy after the fact), and....admit it, great marketing.

I have never wanted an apple product myself. I personaly dislike Itunes, and I have never been a fan of their closed system. As a Pilot, I love my tech, my flightbag has always featured tech toys (pda, winmo, now Android for both phone and tablet). I have 4 kids, the oldest is 14 and his first tech purchase was a transformer prime, like his Dad he prefers tinkering with his tech.

BUT! Apple is very, very succsesful. Their products are popular for good reason. Second but, I have never liked Apples business practises, now....I despise them. Apple does not need to do what they are doing, competition is healthy and spurs inovation. Many people say science fiction spurs science fact. This is true, look at popular sci fi movies, and shows such as Buck Rogers, Star Trek etc and you will reckonize many of our current tech toys. Tablets / slates / pads......lots of examples. Voice commands / search....come on, lots of that. But Apple manages to get stupid patents like scrolling lists, changing screen orientation etc etc, thing that are either common culture, common sense, or both.

Apple makes great products. There are so many people that are die hard Apple fans I honestly believe they have nothing to worry about. Never mind ios vrs Android vrs windows phone, or " I'm a mac and I'm a pc". Apple helped speed up the mobile sector in 2007 - 2008, no one will ever argue that. Since then? Seriously doesn't matter, every Iphone released has been the most popular phone ever (single phone....not operating system or manufacturer). They do not need to do what they are doing. Apple should be happy someone woke up (Google / Android) and has continued to inovate......and move forward. Once again, competition is healthy and spurs constant inovation.

I will personally not support Apple financialy. I will also stop recommending them to my tech dead friends (Samsung S3's for them!). I cannot morally support a company that has stooped as low as Apple. They want to be the only tech Company out there, with other tech Companies happilly making components for thier products. They do not believe in competition, free markets, and most importantly, they do not believe in free knowledge.

Apple, your products in my house will be replaced with Android equivalents (My Wife wants an S3 and a nexus 7). I will no longer give you one penny, or reccomend you to anyone unless you start competing with inovation again instead of litigation.

That, is the real issue here, not the quality of their products but thier philosophy and business practises.
[General Topics] gunzy83:
I have recommended iPhones to tech dead (lol) friends of mine in the past but no more. The gloves had to come off at some point and now I am going to bad mouth Apple (the company) if anyone asks for my advice... :p
[General Topics] MissionImprobable:
Android may be granted some getback here soon:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...d-in-U.S.-following-ITC-patent-review_id31598

Cross your fingers and sacrifice some chickens that it may be so.
[General Topics] sniper:
That made me happy :)
[General Topics] chaki-:
And the Empire strikes baaaack :D
[General Topics] monkeyluis:
Yes. The abuse of patents under FRAND is any better. Lol. At least apple I just protecting their non-Standard patent where as Google & Motorola are truly abusing the system.
[General Topics] cavolo:
Roflcopter ...
[General Topics] c5satellite2:
Apple demands frand licensing heavily in their favor, the judge forces this upon a company, then apple just doesn't pay.

It's has already happened.

Why would google fall for it again?
[General Topics] mistermentality:
They will never ban them in usa for same reasons that big companies lobbied same itc not to ban xbox.

It's a major us company with a massively popular product and could cause the economy loss of financial revenue.

That and of course countries usually tend not to ban their own home grown successes.

Dave

( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )