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[HTC Sensation] syntax_gosong:
Everyone have their own decision and I really respect that choice, where I'm not a "particular" brand-fanatics.

I came from a different brand of smartphone before this HTC Sensation and my preceding fellows of

neighbor xda room (Samsung) are support and congrats me of having the brand new HTC Sensation.

And I agree that HTC should wake up and realize their false dreams.

So, I support and encourage your choice. Enjoy and have a lot creations to your new toy guys :)
[HTC Sensation] Tanguy_ASM:
Maybe we will have more information when the One series will be updated
[HTC Sensation] Youleck:
Htc One S gets now JB update. We are so close to our JB update hope so!
[HTC Sensation] Tanguy_ASM:
I contacted the HTC chat today. According to us, informations about the Sensation update will come soon. "Soon" in HTC language means "one day"
[HTC Sensation] ganeshp:
naah mistake there

soon in HTC dictionary = "next day"

so on every day its gonna come on the next day of it :)
[HTC Sensation] PopaStefanx:
so it never arrive
[HTC Sensation] Furionpl:
What do you thinks about this update for our Sensation guys?

Is it even possible to run JB smoothly on our great phone?

And lastly do you think that they'll release JB for Sensation, or it's not possible?
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
I've been using JB for over a month now. Honestly, it's not such a big update and I'm pretty sure sensation runs ICS a lot better and efficiently than it would run JB. Project Butter would kill the battery.
[HTC Sensation] Tanguy_ASM:
The HTC One S with Snapdragon S3 1.7 Ghz has been updated to Jelly Bean no ?

So why the Sensation XE with S3 1.5 Ghz is not able to run Jelly Bean ?

Honestly, Jelly Bean can't be worse than Sense 3.6...
[HTC Sensation] XeloOw:
Normally, any device must be updated within 18 months after its release date, but according to google the Sensation is out there over 18 months, so I do not think we will have Jelly Bean :crying:
[HTC Sensation] PopaStefanx:
Well THE VILLE C2 don't have jelly, and the sense 4+ is fabuolus, is much better than 3.6. i think that the battery will drain a lot but with a anker maybe it could be better.
[HTC Sensation] Tanguy_ASM:
But the Ville C2 will have Jelly Bean no ?
[HTC Sensation] PopaStefanx:
Yes sure.

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[HTC Sensation] Tanguy_ASM:
So HTC is able to make a good update for the Sensation :)

But they don't want to do it
[HTC Sensation] PopaStefanx:
That is the problem. They say 18 months of update, and we only have about 5 months. That isn't correct.

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[HTC Sensation] elvisypi:
HTC stopped updating our phones like a year ago, so JB is out of discussion.

I'm sure our phones can handle it pretty well though
[HTC Sensation] Tanguy_ASM:
I disagree with you, the OTA 3.33.401.153 is not old.

And the SST XE is only 1 year and some weeks old. It isn't 18 months old yet...
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
People and htc seem to forget that...
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
OTA 3.33.401.154 is even newer ;)
[HTC Sensation] cboy007:
i hope this isn't really that "off topic" (don't want to anger anyone!). thinking back to ICS...the good ROMs were / are the ones that were ported from other phones, and the more similar the phones the better the experience on sensation was, culminating with the HTC ville. going by this logic, once the ville (since it's new, i'm hoping HTC focuses on it) gets JB, then in theory the port to sensation won't be too difficult? but that would involve a lot of waiting and then it would have sense on top of it most likely, but that might be our best hope of fully working JB ROM.

i understand that this is completely different from just getting JB to RUN on sensation using SDK / leaked ROMs / AOSP, but just thinking ahead to hopefully having JB fully working on sensation, possibly with sense, is when HTC releases JB on ville.
[HTC Sensation] kpjimmy:
JB anyone???

Well....soon enough Lol. :)

https://plus.google.com/u/0/117962666888533781522/posts/aRVWBbuWQar
[HTC Sensation] futty:
havent kept up on this stuff lately and i missed the unvaling of JB idk if they had it on youtube like they did with ICS but anyway hope this is worth it.
[HTC Sensation] The Archangel:
Can a mod edit the title?
[HTC Sensation] hello00:
aren't you one? :D
[HTC Sensation] The Archangel:
Yes sir, but not my jurisdiction
[HTC Sensation] beston94:
Weird thing is that the OP is a moderator ^^ To be honest, he of all people should know that you can't put misleading titles even if it is to get someone's attention :D
[HTC Sensation] galaxys:
Yep, very ironic!
[HTC Sensation] destinromie93:
cant wait for stable rom!
[HTC Sensation] cboy007:
holy crap. honestly. you have ELEVEN posts. i've been to every "jelly bean" related thread and at the end you've said the exact same thing about being excited and not being able to wait for stable ROM. if you choose to post annoyingly / pointlessly about how excited you are, at least don't do it more than once. once IS enough, i promise you. more than enough.

/rant

I became even more depressed when i looked at all of your posts. you created a thread called "random" in which you posted "hi". someone please ban him? :(
[HTC Sensation] Jamin13:
+1

That's the kind of person who doesn't read the OP, bricks the phone, then blames OP for unclear instructions.

|Trolling with a smile|
[HTC Sensation] Sensation-al!:
and for whatever reason he has a "paypal donation email" set up, wtf? nobody will donate to you, i PROMISE
[HTC Sensation] Jamin13:
Donate to him for being a contributing member of XDA.

/endsarcasm

|Trolling with a smile|
[HTC Sensation] The Archangel:
Donate to me :D:D:D
[HTC Sensation] T-Macgnolia:
Guys Guys don't flame him, that is no good for anybody. Just kindly refer him to this thread and if he continues with un needed or un warranted post report him to a Mod. Besides look at him his is obviously young and a very new and un experienced member here.

Edit: I retract my above statement, I just saw all the other post that the other members are talking about. Sorry you asked for it man.
[HTC Sensation] townay:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/46277/jelly-bean-when-update-coming
[HTC Sensation] sajibcy:
IF they do for sensation it will be in 2013. anyway 12/2012 world gonna end :D :D :D
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
Old news, they released that statement last weekend
[HTC Sensation] Drebin 894:
What I am a little worried about with Jelly Bean is a drop in battery performance. The boost of FPS from 30 to 60 most likely requires more processing power, which older/ less optimized phones lack. Either way, a change of appearance will be interesting, though I am absolutely satisfied with CM9.
[HTC Sensation] Tanguy_ASM:
I don't have this update

I search the RUU 3.33.401.154, is it available somewhere on the web ?
[HTC Sensation] sy224048:
I'm still not sure where you guys are getting your 18 months of support thing. As far as I know HTC never said that, only Google did and Google doesn't have a grip on HTC.

sent from my jingly bells
[HTC Sensation] Abaddon:
and that's the reason why I will never get an HTC again till they change how things run
[HTC Sensation] uw748:
I think there's word out in Taiwan that the S3 version of 1S will get JB OTA in a couple of hours. There's hope yet?
[HTC Sensation] konjo236:
where you found that information?
[HTC Sensation] uw748:
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=566&t=3128910&last=40849044

Taiwan forum
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
From that site

They have corrected the post... false alarm
[HTC Sensation] sn4k3:
http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
Thats is the kernel source code, not a ROM or RUU download
[HTC Sensation] uw748:
They're saying the January update is for carrier versions, and there'll be an update for the non-carrier 1S tonight... fingers crossed.
[HTC Sensation] Dredead:
Looks like they got it :D

Sent from my Sensation XE-Maniac
[HTC Sensation] Hawke84:
Now we need a dump!
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
I've just had one thanks.

^Sorry, spotted the opportunity and took it :silly:
[HTC Sensation] zakkkkk:
:D:D:D
[HTC Sensation] Hawke84:
Haha I was wondering if anyone would comment on that :D
[HTC Sensation] Dredead:
Haha bloody hell.

Here, pester them :p

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1740920

Sent from my Sensation XE-Maniac
[HTC Sensation] Dredead:
There's a full ROM in the OTA zip file

http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_VILLEC2_U...11.20.24_M_release_303237zzidki5gzxfkv5gs.zip

605MB OTA file

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[HTC Sensation] elvisypi:
Is it encrypted?
[HTC Sensation] immih:
HDR camera

Any recommendations for a JB ROM with HDR support in the camera? This is one feature I really miss while upgrading from ICS.
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
No :) HTC for some reason have made the full ROM available via OTA instead of the usual .p patch files :)
[HTC Sensation] PopaStefanx:
I know why. Because a few months ago I send to HTC a mail, and I write to let open their ruu. And the do it.

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[HTC Sensation] elvisypi:
Good news. Finally some humanity from HTC. This means they are listening after all
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
Just wondering, how can JB OTA for One S help Sensation JB update, that other JB OTAs (such as the one for One X thats already been released) cant?
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
Not really. Project butter runs nice and smooth on mine and the battery use is roughly the same as ICS for me
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
Stuff is supposedly easier to port from the S3 verison of the One S because it has the same chipset and screen size etc etc.. whereas One X has a different screen size so everything would need to be resized
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
I'm talking about PowerHAL and mpdecision, which iirc are not implemented on Senny.
[HTC Sensation] lanluckez:
Maybe new VilleC2 can help something?
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
mpdecision is
[HTC Sensation] CactusProtist:
So basically, we've got everything we need for a JB Sense port?
[HTC Sensation] PopaStefanx:
Yes.

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[HTC Sensation] Mesaman2012:
We need there stock kernel source.
[HTC Sensation] BurnRubber90:
Time to spam HTC. They tweeted about what to expect from 2013. SPAM THAT. XD
[HTC Sensation] Dredead:
Thought I might as well link the threads so that the same questions don't need to be answered in separate places.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2073988

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[HTC Sensation] Lionhardt:
I believe the new kernel source is still needed from htc to backport the jb kernel.
[HTC Sensation] topgeardave:
I did tell you guys, by spamming the Dev thread you only made the thread become locked :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
What thread?

Sent from the fridge. Make: LG Model: N4
[HTC Sensation] topgeardave:
Here you are mate:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2073988
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
Any official news from HTC yet?

they should announce SOMETHING soon....
[HTC Sensation] sn4k3:
for now on HTCDEV there is only the kernel source for ONEX+ and DroidDNA :(
[HTC Sensation] Solar_:
Guys, read this:

http://pocketnow.com/2013/01/05/htc-sense-5-dialer-keyboard

It shows the new Dialer and Keyboard app in Sense 5.

It looks amazing imo..

What do you guys think?
[HTC Sensation] :
Heavily off topic. Stay on topic. If you want to talk about Sense 5 open a New thread :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] Hawke84:
That's the same as in sense 4.5 like in vipers
[HTC Sensation] InfinityFTW:
Devs and others,what is this? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36330088

Seems like a way to bypass the encryption on JB RUU's. Not sure if it can be helpful or not
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
Woooooooooooooooooooooooot!! :D

Only trouble is, linux is needed to compile. Ah well, time to boot into my ubuntu HDD :)
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
Nah, its different, same layout maybe but it is different graphics.
[HTC Sensation] Dredead:
I check htcdev every day for this kernel and it got me wandering. Seeing as everyone else just releases their kernels with the phone and its updates, why does HTC hold theirs for like a month?

Is it really a business decision through which they hope their customers will just buy a new HTC device because they can't wait for a port from the dev community? Do they really think we'd do this knowing it's gonna be the same deal later on and NOT consider other brands?

Its lucky for them that Sense has ruined me for any other UI, but then again I'm sure they know that, thus they can make the decision in confidence

Slightly off topic, I know, but seeing as it's the only thing we're waiting on, I couldn't think of a better place to get this info.

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[HTC Sensation] SebastianFM:
Probably HTC will "officially" release Ville C2 JB ROM first and then kernel source code.

I found Sensation camera drivers in newest kernel 3.4.10 binary from Ville C2 JB ROM. Kernel source code 3.0.16 for Ville C2 contain camera drivers only for Ville C2. This could mean that HTC is preparing JB kernels for both devices. Even if not, I think I'll be able to adapt Ville C2 JB kernel (when source will be released) to Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] BooMzMn:
Wooow sebastian, i was thinking that ure gone on other phone, like the others!
[HTC Sensation] konjo236:
acording to this guy from one s threads we will have sourc code so fast.......:cyclops:
[HTC Sensation] olegat0r:
O_o So that means no JB with Sense 4+ till July. Bad. :(
[HTC Sensation] realceday:
I hope JB comes to Sensation as soon.
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
i dont think there is going to be any official announcements until a while after CES....it doesn't make sense if they do it otherwise....
[HTC Sensation] Zd0s:
it doesn't make sense if they do it otherwise....

I see what you did there!

Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with DarkForest
[HTC Sensation] XxXPachaXxX:
Yeah, it's not so hard...i looked in the droid dna's kernel source. it can be ported to sensation, but with ville c2 source it will be very easy
[HTC Sensation] konjo236:
than why not try.....?
[HTC Sensation] topgeardave:
Because it's a waste of time and effort. Better off waiting for ville C2 kernel source to hit.
[HTC Sensation] ahsan64:
I think developers are not taking interest as the thread is empty and no one discussin it.... :confused:
[HTC Sensation] Dredead:
It will definitely come, but as stated before, were waiting for the kernel source. Until that happens, there's really not much to discuss, we've covered everything else along the way in the other couple of threads that got closed

Sent from my Sensation XE-Maniac
[HTC Sensation] badboy47:
hopefully the kernel source releases soon. if not oh well, JellyBean or not my phone is still good.
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
This is probably going to sound harsh but you need to read it.

Developers have lives you know, and jobs, exams and lots of other things going on outside of XDA. We are taking an interest but things are stopping it from progressing that we can't control.

You are not privy to the conversations I've had with ivicask over gtalk nor are you privy to any of the other conversations that may or may not be happening through private means.

Just because developers don't post about something 50 times a day does not mean we are not taking an interest. IMO you need to quit whining.
[HTC Sensation] ahsan64:
Whoa.... Sorry about that Jonny i didnn't mean that but when devs talking on thread we feel good to see conversations so that we can also learn from that.....not that much but a little...

But its okay...:(
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
lets stay focused on the topic.
[HTC Sensation] MarcMS82:
In any case, it's a shame for HTC. They can't say seriously the Sensation is an old device, unable to run JB. This is how they tread their customers.
[HTC Sensation] geru2842:
Yeah, I am agree with you.

They must know that if they are treating their customers(including htc sensation users) like this s**t, their customers will leave HTC brand. Please HTC, respect your customers! And I am respect developers lives, etc. So I am not hasty with their progress. I am always thank for their efforts to make my sensation become high-end phone. :D That's what we need.
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
At least I don't resort to name calling...

And yeah it really annoys me when people take devs work for granted.

Maybe we should keep you updated but the last time I tried that I seem to remember the thread getting spammed by "omg omg when u release?", "omg I'm soooooo excited", "ETA, ETA, ETA..." "*insert other random off-topic crap here*". I ended up asking Ghost to close it because even my big sign saying I didn't want anyone who had was not going to post dev related stuff there didn't stop people from doing just that.

And FYI, we currently don't think its possible because of libmemalloc.so - this lib is initialized on boot and for whatever reason using the VilleC2 one doesn't work, nor does using Sense 3.6 one, nor CM9, nor CM10 - me and ivicask have both tried them all, it won't even load past splash screen, no boot animation, nothing.

Anyways, rant over...
[HTC Sensation] maw:
I couldn't wait no longer, I got myself a Galaxy Note II and it was the best choice I ever made! So long HTC, nice knowing you!
[HTC Sensation] mushtafa:
This reminds me of my old Desire HD, waiting for ICS, f*** HTC and their updates....
[HTC Sensation] InfinityFTW:
I did exactly the same. And I hope for a 4.2 update soon :)

Sent from my Note II using 1's and 0's
[HTC Sensation] vinas1:
Same here, gave the Senny to my wife. :)
[HTC Sensation] pera987:
Same here, stick to the topic...;)
[HTC Sensation] MarcMS82:
Do u prefer Galaxy Note II or Galaxy III? I guess my next choice will be between one of those. I like the One X+ but, seeing how HTC treat their phones, I have to think about this. Nexus 4 could be a great choice too.
[HTC Sensation] sy224048:
Go with nexus 4. It will always be the best phone simply because you won't have to make a thread for when you get Key Lime Pie or whatever the next android version is. Also it is smoking hot and the development for it will never die. Look at the nexus s! Abandoned by google but not by developers.
[HTC Sensation] Jiggs82:
True story
[HTC Sensation] ahsan64:
I want To PORT ....???

HI

i know its not a good question and also i am not a dev...i am just a user...

so i want to ask that i downloaded a VILLE C2 OTA (605mb) and i want to port it using this link ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1941239 )

my question is that by doing this my phone can bricked or its safe for testing.....my sensation is taiwan made...

crazy for jelly bean with sense ofcourse...!!!!
[HTC Sensation] sonnhy:
if it were that easy everyone can do it and developers that works day&night are useless ;)
[HTC Sensation] ahsan64:
I know its not just that easy but also not that difficult..

As the link i attached is also true... :D:thumbup:
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
That doesn't take into account all the extra sense libs.

Also you will never get it past the boot animation without serious hacking of the framework jars. Then there is the problem I highlighted about libmemalloc.so and millions of other complications.

Just to give you some stats about it, ivicask managed to port Android 4.0.4 Sense 4.1 in two hours, and he has tried for more than a few weeks without getting anywhere on JB Sense 4.5. It's not as easy as you think...
[HTC Sensation] Sultanxda:
I was talking to Ivicask and he actually sent me a libmealloc.so file, so libmealloc.so might not be a problem anymore... BTW, how did decrypting the RUU go with that Linux tool?
[HTC Sensation] Shindyt:
Get note 2 and you won't have to worry about support, because you get so much from samsung.
[HTC Sensation] badboy47:
the only reason thts holding me back to buy Nexus 4 is no sd card support :(. Other than its a really awesome phone.
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
Actually i booted 4.0.4 in 20 minutes.. :)

As for for Jelly bean cant give you much more info except that we are waiting for VILLEC2 Jelly Bean kernel source from HTC..
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
Meh details ;)

I'll probably catch you on gtalk once my exams are over, looks like I've got some catching up to do...
[HTC Sensation] exxeHR:
Samsung already updated GS2 and some midrange devices, and HTC updated like 2 phones...no wonder they are going down...
[HTC Sensation] Phencyclidine:
disgrace

http://samsung-updates.com/7598-bre...-roll-out-galaxy-s-2-jelly-bean-update-4-1-2/
[HTC Sensation] Tanguy_ASM:
I loath this brand but I must say it : GG Samsung
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
I still prefer ICS Sense, than jelly bean ugly Touch Wiz..
[HTC Sensation] exxeHR:
Me too, but 3.6 has inconsistent UI and that makes it ugly...

ICS works perfectly fine for me, it is smooth and battery life is ok, but 3.6 looks like frankenstain...
[HTC Sensation] Tanguy_ASM:
I agree with you, Sense 3.6 is very very bad ! Sense 4 is so much better...
[HTC Sensation] VictoriousShooter:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2101821

Could this be of assistance?
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
Thats android 4.0.4, with sense 4.5 pats
[HTC Sensation] Phencyclidine:
We will get JB for Sensation in 3 or 4 months ... if you have money to buy a ne phone do it now , if you not wait for some developer to port JB with Sense or official ROM :(
[HTC Sensation] akaHardison:
Just wait.We can't hurry.
[HTC Sensation] Zd0s:
Guys tweet #jb4sensation get it trending!

Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with DarkForest
[HTC Sensation] sonnhy:
Sense 4.5 and JellyBean will be the best thing our phone will ever see.. The pure awesomeness... Hope they will at least tell us when...
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
You still think it will come out?

KLP is not far off now. Saying that, after using JB for a while, there isn't much that is missing really. ICS on Sensation is good enough imho. I'd like to see them support their phones, and this is the reason why I ditched HTC and won't get HTC phone again unless it's Nexus or WP(if I ever decide to go that route).
[HTC Sensation] sonnhy:
I mean, the beauty of Sense4+ with the smoothness and performance of JellyBean would be awesome.. Add one of the best comunity that works hard to provide even better experience :victory:
[HTC Sensation] esvi76:
@htc: @esvibrokenheart We don't have any specific information regarding a Jelly Bean update for the HTC Sensation at the moment.

Thats what htc twitted me about JB on sensation

This really disapointed me to be honest...

If only we had a fully working custom rom for jb for sensation.....
[HTC Sensation] D-SHEL:
Same from HTC UK.
[HTC Sensation] PopaStefanx:
R: Jelly Bean (JB) for the Sensation - OTA/Information/Update/ETAs/etc

Also here from HTC italy

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[HTC Sensation] dimitxx:
I couldn't wait and decided to install an AOKP JB ROM. I've been using it for 2 months now and in this time it has became really stable (the only remaining problem is that it sometimes restarts with turning on the wifi from taskbar toggle ; it's getting fixed with the next release). I've realized just how heavy and unstable the stock sense ROM is. I think the Sensation is better off with non-stock (non-sense) ROM. Even the beats audio effect is reached good enough with just some more flashing.
[HTC Sensation] esvi76:
truth is,

HTC could say "okay we'll never make that update (jb) for sensation"

and those who want could finally stop waiting and flash custom ROM

problem is, we're hoping they will, and wait for probably nothing

I asked them three times today if they even plan do such update, they havent answer.
[HTC Sensation] slobo2712:
really truth is

They are waiting the sensations obsolete even more,and then they will say that phone is old like a greece no reason to update him....