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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rkanwar:
Well yeah but you will notice the battery thing your saying. And only the flash drivers will fail to install. Other SEMC drivers will succeed. Once theyre installed unplug then do the same procedure again after 3/4 mins youll be good to go and sus will say release the volume down key.

Unfortunately for me o2 still havent released the update
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Crocodile1973:
I am a massive Sony brand fan, have been for over 25 years, have to say that I agree with your points about this phone should never of been released without ics already on it. Also the update process is rubbish. To me this phone should been first for ics, it's the flagship model. To say we know when we will get JB, well sorry we don't even know then we will get ics. Drip fed, still waiting for arc update and my partner the pro. So unfortunately 3 phones, and no updates. Sony on phone front is poor.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] hk2006:
Three UK ICS firmware

Three UK ICS firmware:

http://www.multiupload.hk/OG3NT0P0PR

Anyone can upload a copy of 1257-3114 GB?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] del1701:
Here you go,

http://depositfiles.com/files/kpahh4qme?redirect
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] slyevo:
This redirect says 6.0.A.3.75 (GingerBread)!!!!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
Yes he want GB firmware.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
Absolutely right. It is utterly ridiculous to have older phones running newer software than the 2012 line up.

There is just something about Sony and android that just leaves a bad taste in the mouth. It's like the think they are doing their users a favor or something. Well news flash " they are obliged to update android for 18mths of the life of the phone.

Sony just like Nokia don't like android. Nokia still resist but Sony have no choice so we get a half hearted approach from them instead.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Deniz.S:
They've added new si numbers again. Can anyone check if there's any uk ones? Can't check from work

Thanks
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Kiefels:
Nope!!!

Still no UK Generic.

No.73 update I went straight to .75 and now even '3' get their updates before generic.

This just doesn't make sense to me.

I am expecting an entirely bug free, never requiring patching, rock solid software after this delay.

There must be some legit reason on why the UK Generic is always held back.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Deniz.S:
Ok thanks
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rkanwar:
O2 still isnt out either
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ash_c64:
Does THREE ics have the splash screen?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Kiefels:
Ahhhh, I learned from my X10 days that o2 is a little less than prompt on their updates.

That is why I flashed a generic the day after I got my 'S'

Turns out that was a fruitless venture too. :( lol

Good luck on your waiting!!

I am running a rooted GB now though which is something I guess.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rkanwar:
Lol o2 are funny. They say that they havent heard of the update then they say we should be getting it tomorrow then blah blah blah. I wanna flash a generic ics rom but not sure which one which is why im still waiting. Unfortunately I cant root. Gb is still good enough for a while I suppose as I have ics on my arc s.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Kiefels:
Why can't you root?

My bootloader is locked but i followed the instruction on the GB/ICS locked bootloader rooting and now I have root.

It seems complicated when you read it but it aint.

It works on any GB version inc branded.

Thing is...

If you then update via SUS or PC companion it will remove root ability.

Thats ok. I will just flash the UK generic ICS (When available) Via flashtool and keep my root. :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rkanwar:
But the instructions only state about ics? I will look over it again on my pc.

Edit: just waiting for the ftf to download. I kinda figured it out.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] arw9000:
So far I have had SUS and PCC update themselves, but no update for the phone, which is the bit I am really trying to get!

Should we run a competition to see when UK generic actually arrives? This side of Christmas seems unlikely...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Kiefels:
I'm going to opt for errr...

A week next octember!!! Lol

Right now i'm hoping for ICS before o2 push theirs out. That would be just adding insult to injury. Lmao!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] LilChinchster:
This is getting pathetic... I wouldn't care as much if the update was out and I just wasn't able to update as there were too many people downloading it... But not even having the option there really kills
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrBelter:
It must be 2 weeks since the rollout started, you can only presume the UK isn't of great importance to Sony
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrZippo:
This is really disappointing!

I used to think Samsung were bad with their updates but Sony really are taking the P*ss!! I don't understand how the UK generic firmware comes out slower than the network specific firmwares.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mailthesauce:
The UK ICS release for the Galaxy S2 was similar to what's happening now. Samsung waited until every carrier tested the phone and released ICS, before releasing it for generic S2 phones.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] panteleimonov:
They are fixing some problems around the carrier FTF, and than they will release the Generic UK ftf with the fixes. Thats why they are gonna be late, that is their explain :)))
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] warface:
Whilst I don't believe that IS why Sony is late with UK ICS, it would be nice of Sony to actually come out and say this, to stop us Brits moaning and *****ing about being last again! :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrBelter:
Maybe they have done it so we can ***** and moan given it is our national pastime :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
This makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

I think they've lost all sense of direction.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Android>iPhone:
I tweeted them (@SonyXperiaGB) yesterday and got a vague answer, even though I only asker why the UK generic phones didn't get the update.

" This update is currently being rolled out globally so handsets should be receiving it soon :) "
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Kiefels:
Thats good to know. Thanks for that.

:banghead:

I had pretty much figured that out myself. Lol

Been reading about some ICS issues/bugs and it appears that most people are suffering issues by flashin ch generic via flashtool.

Armed with this info i have decided to...

Wait until the global roll-out reaches blighty shores.

Still strange how the branded versions have already paddled their way here though. Doh!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] elation:
Hiya,

I'm not sure whats going on really. I have an Orange XS, SI 1257-3113, last thursday I checked Update Centre, then refreshed and it told me a new software update was availible, which I assumed to be the ICS update.

I connected to PC Companion, it downloaded a large file and then rebooted the phone. Waited a while until the 'update' finished, and then disconnected and rebooted. After a 3-4minute boot, the phone came on exactly as it was before.

I reconnected to PC Companion, did a repair, and it seemed to just factory reset my phone. Since then I have searched around a bit, and tried Sony Update Service, which has again told me I have the most up to date software. I'm currently on 6.0.A.3.75. Can anyone shed any light on what is what?

Apologies if this has been asked before, but I've read through all the relavent threads, and searching for 'ICS Update' is like looking for a needle in a needle stack.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Kiefels:
I'm guessing and it is just a guess.

What you got was a patch update.

Sooooo

You were probably running on 2.3.7 version .67 and it updated you to either .73 or .75

If this is correct, you wouldn't see any change unless you checked in the about phone section in settings.

It was just fixing a couple of bugs
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ash_c64:
You must of updated to. 75 which was recently release before ICS on none branded phones
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] elation:
Thanks guys. Back to waiting then. I had much the same with my Sony Tablet S - wait forever to update - I hope this is more stable than the tablet, I'm not overly happy with ICS on that.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrBelter:
Still nothing, what a load of cobblers.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kevstv:
Yep. If the GB update is anything to go by, we have a hell of a wait!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dweaver1:
I am a Vodafone UK customer with 1257 3113 & like you am STILL waiting for ICS - the SONY page giving the LATEST update information is still dates 03/07 - pathetic- if SONY devote as much resource to the update, as this page - we will be waiting a long time....
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
I think it's only three UK that have released the update.

Who knows what's going on. Speculation is rife but who knows.

All we can say is its not very good. Not very good at all.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dgattenb:
Got home from work, plugged in my phone... Update is ready for you!!! Download the new pc companion now!!!grrrrrr
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] rkanwar:
What network are you on? Sure its not just a pcc update?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ash_c64:
I think thats what he ment...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrBelter:
Still not available even with the updated SI list.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kevstv:
I got fed up of waiting, I flashed the the generic German rom from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1723610

Very easy to do and very happy with it :)

Still don't understand what is so different from the generic German/Swiss etc to justify this big delay!?!?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ddee:
Anyone flashed a room that handles orange tmobile roaming signal switch properly?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sixdaysandy:
I've been using the CH Firmware since it was released. I'm on Orange in the UK and it's had no issues switching between Orange & T-Mobile's Signal. I also haven't experienced it showing as 'Roaming' when it's on national Roaming that some users have reported on this FW.

For Reference I did a full wipe (factory reset, wiped SD Partition) and re-installed everything from the Play Store, I didn't backup or restore any application data.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Kiefels:
Ok so i haven't checked for update for a couple of days now. (decided it's irrelevant)

Have come to the conclusion that...

I don't actually, really need ICS!!!

What is ICS really bringing to me that is so important i can't live without it?

Face Unlock?

I don't think so!

A quick swipe across the screen or perhaps a tap of some numbers/pattern is good enough for me.

Been like that for 2 years so i'm pretty accustomed to it.

Anything else?

Any MAJOR changes or improvements on ICS that i need to have that is so important i don't know about it?

I have just got root ability on my phone so i have cleared all the crap out of it and NOW i have MY handset, setup and working the way "I" want it.

If i drop ICS on it now i will have to do it all again.

At the end of the day its human nature to want shiny, new stuff (even if its rubbish)

But my point is this...

My sister has been using an android phone for 3 years and before i started nagging her this year, she was running 1.6 (eclair) and she couldn't care less. It did what she wanted it to do and didn't think an update would benefit her in any shape or form.

Her opinion (be it hard to stomach) happens to be the opinion of 90% of mobile phone users.

So it's nice that handset manufacturers cater for us 10% at all. Yet still we moan and groan. To what end?

So we can covert jelly bean which guess what?

We want NOW also!!!

Since i got this XPS i have not had any major bugs, fails or complaints on gb. I am used to it and can drive it pretty effortlessly.

Should i take the plunge and have to start again.

Jury is still out on that as i tap this out on gb. :-)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] metcard:
I agree.

ICS is not worth upgrading to on the Xperia S at the moment.

Maybe when Sony provide an update to iron small things out a bit then it might be worth the update.

Forced hardware acceleration seems nice in theory but GB was already pretty smooth on the XS anyway.

Sony done an excellent job with GB and there is nothing really that stands out on ICS which you couldn't do on GB. The stock web browser on ICS is much smoother though.

After 1 week of ICS I'm considering switching back to GB just because of the slightly better battery management.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
What you failed to include in all that was the fact that the 10% you speak off make up the majority of high end smartphone users.

Sorry these things matter. Android version is by no means the beginning and end of things. There are obviously other factors to consider but it certainly matters. Samsung have done best at keeping their flagship devices up to date and have benefited immensely financially from that.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Chocolate Columbo:
Well, that's good for you, but I'm sick of waiting. I'm thinking perhaps I should've slapped an extra couple hundred quid, got myself an S3 and been done with it.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrBelter:
I half wish i had got a HTC One S ill be honest, the support from Sony (including customer service via electronic methods) is a bit on the poor side ill be honest.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Gloris:
a mate of mine has just bought the s3...it's actually amazing! thing that's struck me the most is the battery life....17 hours use and it's only down to around 80%....my xperia s is lucky if i get 12 hours out of a full charge :s (which is fine, i charge it every night anyway),but it's just funny how something so slim can pack more power. hopefully someone will come out with a decent 3rd party battery soon :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrBelter:
The battery life is subjective to use though lets be honest, if my XS is just sat doing nothing is uses 1% every 3 hours.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] metcard:
most people seem to be getting about five hours of screen on time with the galaxys3.

I think that is comparable with the xs. The galaxys3 has a very dim screen too.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Kiefels:
And that is entirely down to you and your personal choice.

I used to get nothing BUT Samsungs purely because their screens are amazing but my needs changed.

I take lots of pictures for one reason or another and carrying a camera and a phone was getting to be an arse ache.

My solution was to get the Sony.

Arguably the best Android phone camera.

It's great for me and it doesn't require a new os to make it work.

As regards to Sony not caring about the 10% of high end phone users wishing for better/quicker updates...

HTC are keen on new software and fixes but their phones are not exactly highly desireable. (my opinion only and not open to discussion) they seem and feel cheap.

Samsung screens are amazing and always have been but their ui to me is slow and clunky. It doesn't feel natural to me. (again my own personal opinion and not open to discussion)

Above are the two companies that update their handsets regularly but is that why your mates girlfriend got the s3?

I very much doubt it!!!

I am a shallow person that likes things to look pretty but i won't buy if the quality isn't there. Also its my phone and i want to have on it what i like and have it look the way i want. (hence android and not apple)

So my dear friends it is down again to personal preference.

I'm not going to stop getting Sony handsets just because they aren't the first company with the new android version.

I had the option of the samsung galaxy nexus in december running ics and it was god-awful.

Build quality, reliability, a well integrated ui and a bloody good camera is what i want and the two companies above could not get me that.

Also.

Don't forget that sofware upgrades are free and that means the handset manufacturers are making a loss by paying people to get you these updates.

If you ran a business would you be happy to be throwing freebies at thousands of people???

They are not obliged to update their handsets but we all seem to be taking it for granted now. I never did when i had my nokia 3310 or Samsung d500. Any mods to those were done by myself.

So what i guess i'm saying here is...

Go to Samsung/HTC and have your updates but if you bought Sony purely for updates and software you made a terrible error because that is not what these phones are about.

Consider ourselves fortunate that Sony bother as much as they do because it was only 2 years ago when the bothered even less.

My thumbs hurt now so i'm going for a lie down. Lmao!!!

BTW i'm not a fanboi. If the iphone was android i'd be on it like a rash.

If Samsung could make a more solid feeling handset with a useable UI and a camera that is as good as this or the iphone 4's i would give it a go also.

HTC need to concentrate more on quality and less on quantity.

I love my XPS and although ICS would be nice... It doesn't make my phone crap!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
The one big improvement on ICS (for me) is a tiny one - being able to change the font size. Of course, Sony could have implemented this on GB if it had wanted (Samsung and LG add in font options, from size to actual font) but didn't.

The one annoyance for me is the silly launcher modification that stops menu bringing up a menu to allow easy access to do a search or access settings. The older launcher (still ICS) for all the 2011 Xperia models retained that.

Instead, we get a silly menu bar at the top for changing the wallpaper or adding widgets. Totally stupid if you ask me.

But, I'm still happy to have ICS. It also means there are a few apps available (including Chrome) that you can't run on GB.

---------- Post added at 08:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:51 PM ----------

http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Android/Samsung+Galaxy+S+III/news.asp?c=42780

This wasn't a test of battery for screen on, or running powerful apps/games, but shows the Xperia S isn't doing too badly.

I'd agree that the GS3 has got excellent battery life, but that battery soon takes a massive hit if you begin to put the phone under a heavy load.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
You certainly got a lot off your mind there.

Not quite sure what you're driving at. I think the question we were trying to answer was do timely updates matter.

The biggest criticism of the Xperia S in most of the reviews I've seen is it's dated software version.

You just spoke a lot about you you you you. What I like and what I hate. Maybe you are in the minority of folks with high powered devices who don't care about these things. The huge losses they make certainly supports that idea.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Crocodile1973:
The S3 is nice, but what is with the ui, green icons etc, can you change that, because it looks nothing Like ics. On Sony there update process is poor, even sky deliver there updates in good time. Why can't they set dates for each country and say UK updates roll out 9th July to 30th. The lack of ics theme on battery icon WiFi etc is stupid, at least could of choosen a blue battery, not green.

Xperia ARC
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
You can't seriously say Sky updates in good time? The new EPG (and by that I mean the last version, not the latest one with a nicer font, transparencies and a few new icons) was almost a year late, after allowing people to beta test it but not bother to get feedback - allowing a major bug to be unreported, which stopped the roll out.

And let's not forget the time taken to update all the different boxes. The process took months - and I'd almost say that's the same as ICS, with people waiting longer for the new EPG depending on whether they had an Amstrad, Thomson, Pace, Samsung box etc.

I'm glad I've got the latest EPG update on both my Amstrad boxes, but plenty of people are still waiting and I don't think all the HD boxes will be done until the end of this year!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Crocodile1973:
Sky announced quite clearly that 890 and 895 boxes would be first to be updated. They released the start date, and as far as I see boxes are being updated. Can you say Sony have done that. Nobody knows when this rollout will start, or what UK ones will be first. It's a joke.

Sony Xperia Arc
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrBelter:
Ive got an Amstrad Sky+ HD box, an early one with a 1TB HDD i put in and i still dont have ICS on my Sony Xperiarse S
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Kiefels:
I understand where you are coming from and my post could be mis- construed as selfish venting but what you seem to be missing is that the mere act of signing up to this forum means we are looking to get a little more from our phones.

I know that looking around the forums it is difficult to believe that we are in a minority but we are.

You must have friends/family with high end phones?!? Ask them if they have unlocked bootloaders, rooted, modded, flashed a tweaked rom or removed bloatware. NO!!!!

These are the majority of users and they are the ones targeted by manufacturers.

Software support is a must for us and i love that manufacturers now cater for us but my whole point on this was...

After waiting so long for ICS and then reading peoples pov's having got it. I just started to wonder if i really need it. Just because i still use GB it doesn't make my handset CRAP!!!

On other matters.

Sky update their boxes?

Never noticed. (does this make me mad at Sky??? Not a jot!!!)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Crocodile1973:
I think the frustration for people who care about having ics is the lack of communication from Sony as to when we can expect it. Surely as I said setting a roll out time is not to hard, others seem to do it. It's damming when there already testing and planning jelly bean to other phones. Sony stuck on GB. Don't forget this is the flagship model for Sony. Well it's sinking.

Sony Xperia Arc
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
Yes you're right jellybean is the new sheriff in town now and seeing just how fast and smooth the galaxy nexus was running with it means it's only a matter of time before the clamor for it intensifies.

I said before that the xperia s story is reading dangerously similarly to the way the X10's read.

Again I find myself worth another Sony mobile two versions behind. I suspect the S3 and the one x will get JB at some point in q3. With some Xperia devices not even seeing ICS until q3 and maybe even q4, a release this year seems unlikely.

The next android iteration after JB will probably be launched with the next nexus phone. What then will Sony skip Jb and jump to that next year.

Again just as we saw with the x10, Sony users are being denied a good android experience. We are again being left behind in the ever evolving journey that's android.

JB seems mainly to be a ui performance bost together with some minor changes here and there so let's hope we see it at some point in q4.

If the galaxy nexus is now the fastest and smoothest android device because of JB, imagine what other devices will be like running it. Google with JB have finally done what a lot of us have been crying for.

Project butter = Ultra smooth and it's about time too.