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[HTC Sensation] dimitxx:
Yes they won't be any official updates for Sensation no matter what they say, I've seen it happen with other devices: there was the Desire series (they didn't get ICS except maybe Desire S). The Sensation might be a little old, but it's still a really good device and the only disadvantage I've noticed is that the battery isn't lasting enough (but lasts more than ONE X :)). There are going to be unofficial stable JB sense ROMs for Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] esvi76:
Finally they ve answered

@htc: @esvibrokenheart*Sorry, Esvi. We don't have any news to share regarding the upgrade path for this phone at this time.
[HTC Sensation] dimitxx:
Hah did you expct something else? :D:D
[HTC Sensation] esvi76:
actually I did

i'm trying to flash the AOKP rom

and i have this "initiating swagger" taking FOREVER...

im desperate
[HTC Sensation] dimitxx:
You haven't done S-Off (or at least not properly)

PS: the pink unicorn is annoying, but you can easily change the boot animation later without flashing.
[HTC Sensation] Phencyclidine:
Motorola RAZR Jelly Bean in Europe
[HTC Sensation] pera987:
No, no, this is jb sensation thread...;)
[HTC Sensation] abdurahman:
I recently came from the G2X to the sensation, and wow, the sensation is 10x a better phone than the G2x, plus it has official ICS. The G2X is still stuck on gingerbread, while we are here asking HTC for JB. I'm glad I switched haha
[HTC Sensation] badboy47:
was told same (We don't have any news on updates Sensation at this time. Stay tuned and we'll let you know as new info is available.)

hopefully if they hear our voice loud enough maybe they will change their mind.
[HTC Sensation] Phencyclidine:
From htc

Dear Nenad,

Dear Nenad, We really understand your frustration, however, please note that We have no confirmation whether HTC Sensation will receive the Jelly Bean Update or not. Our engineers are still testing whether the update will be compatible with your device or not. Till then, please accept our deepest apologies and We thank you for your patience and understanding!
[HTC Sensation] slobo2712:
samo seru tesko sta da bude
[HTC Sensation] O_G:
Please only post in English. If you are unable to do this, please use one of the online translators available and post the results along with your original quote.
[HTC Sensation] Zd0s:
Is it possible to put sense 4 from the ics build onto the asop jb? Or to complicated?

Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with DarkForest
[HTC Sensation] Rox598:
Companies never give out information regarding these things till they're ready so asking won't really get an answer but will make our voices heard
[HTC Sensation] Winins:
can any dev port this rom --> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1910738 ??????
[HTC Sensation] XeloOw:
Developers need in first a kernel

Envoyé depuis mon Transformer TF101 avec Tapatalk
[HTC Sensation] olegat0r:
Wow, you have got answer saying that they are still testing it. From Russian support I have got only short answer that sensation will not get it. I really hope that they simply have no information here and developing really goes on at the moment.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
From what I've seen Russian branches for almost all oem are somewhat more knowledgeable and more aware of current situation than others. So far it could be true. I chatted with HTC RU before, but that was ages ago, so they didn't know anything at the time.
[HTC Sensation] Dredead:
Guys, I just moved from the DHD not even a few months ago to this Sensation XE. I watched HTC stall as much as they could when it came to the DHD and the ICS update until it was so late after ICS's release that it was too ridiculous to release an update, so they didn't. Their excuse was that it was not powerful enough... Well its running a custom ICS rom now quite smoothly, and its a port ffs! Ported kernel and all. They're doing the same thing with the Sensation and the JB update... Well, pretty much any phone that hasn't got "one" in its name, or that wasn't released later. And you can sure as hell bet your ass (donkey :D) that they'll do this again when it comes to their next series.

When I got this XE, its true that I did consider HTC might pull the same crap again. But I pushed those thoughts to the back of my head with the logic that there was no way they would do it to TWO of their consecutive flagship super phones. Unfortunately though, HTC releases one update list from the beginning, and if your phone's not on it, you're not getting it. The only changes ever made to these lists are subtractions and hardly ever additions.

There is no testing going on, they know our phone can handle it, but they also know that if they update this phone, no one will upgrade. What they dont realise is, however, that if people upgrade, it won't be with HTC. These are the same responses they sent me and many others not a couple of months ago. (Yes... We were still pushing for an older android version over a year after its release). I still remember being told it would come in March back in January last year, and that was the second date given to us after the initial delay.

I should also mention that they refused to release the kernel to us after they had made their big "decision". If what they said was all true, there's an official ROM sitting somewhere in the world, which is absolute BS lol.

Here we go again.

Anyways I hope this clears a lot up for those who constantly ask when it will be released and flood the thread with the same response from HTC over and over again. Just remember that the employees that handle the customers look to a set of answers given to them by the ones that actually organise this stuff. The only people that it is possible for us to contact only know what HTC tells them.

If I could cook, I'd be taking a page from HTC's history book and start looking at which kernel is best to start porting. I really wish I had the knowhow.

My 10c. It may not come true, but just dont be disappointed if/when it happens

Sent from my Sensation XE-Maniac
[HTC Sensation] konjo236:
I see now on htcdev.com one x 4.1 kernel source code it's not been yesterday i think,maybe now follows for one s...What if they upload only for s4 not for s3 ?
[HTC Sensation] uwireless:
I have IC Evolution 2.4 (that's 4.0.3, Sense 4.0) and I got a notification that a System update is available.

"This update includes the following: Software update: 3.17.401.102 (602.45 MB)

This update contains important enh...... including:

- Android 4.1.1 and HTC Sense 4+ update

- Enhanced UI with better performance in Camera

- New landing page and Event/Map view in Gallery

- Power management improvement"

Did anybody else get this? What do you think?

edit:

This software update number is apparently JB update for One S (S3). Maybe the HTC server is seeing my phone as a One S...
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
something is def wrong...they wouldn't release JB for sensation before announcing it for like a year ahead :D
[HTC Sensation] Phencyclidine:
hahah try and let us know :) or not? :)
[HTC Sensation] pera987:
well,worst thing it wont allow you to install, soo try and teeeel us...:D
[HTC Sensation] Phencyclidine:
Maybe to brick his device with flash wrong HBOOT or radio in update ?
[HTC Sensation] pera987:
it wont proceed with instalation if it is for one s, because it will check first
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
Thats ONE S port, for some reason OTA checking still works and thinks its original ONE S device, dont try to install it, it wont work even if you manage to install you'll be stuck at splash..
[HTC Sensation] Phencyclidine:
There is no such rom for One S maybe for One X or One X+
[HTC Sensation] Jiggs82:
Well guys if the HTC Thunderbolt a 2 and half year old device just got ics maybe our Sensation can finally get jb sometime soon lol
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
What do you mean no such rom? 3.17.401.102 is official OTA for HTC One S in Eastern Europe...
[HTC Sensation] Phencyclidine:
sorry my mistake :)
[HTC Sensation] Itsakash:
I m sure , we will not getting any jelly bean update. Reason is sense 4+ ( according to me :p ) , as jelly bean comes with sense 4+ .

so ,in sense 4+ camera burst mode is 100% workable .and its hardware limitation for sensation...

Jelly bean for sensation possible only with sense 3.x , and HTC clearly said that jelly bean comes with newest version of sense 4+ ..

So there is no chance for us :mad:
[HTC Sensation] PopaStefanx:
R: Jelly Bean (JB) for the Sensation - OTA/Information/Update/ETAs/etc

Well burst camera is easy to fix, they only have to create a good kernel that give enough power and also that can manage the ram memory better, in some time the camera is fully workable...

Inviato dal mio HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e usando XDA Premium HD app
[HTC Sensation] inv89:
I am sorry to say that news.

Htc Turkey says that there is no update sensation,xe,xl and evo 3d.

Kemal who is employer of Htc Turkey says ''According to lastest HTC news, there is no jb update for xe.

In adition we commicate on mail, Their answer is there is no jb update sensation,xe,xl and evo 3d.

I registered for this news. I have screenshot but I am a new user. Only trust me now
[HTC Sensation] PopaStefanx:
R: Jelly Bean (JB) for the Sensation - OTA/Information/Update/ETAs/etc

I will kill them..........

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[HTC Sensation] ash123456678:
This is so ridiculous... Even LG are updating their phones to Jellybean... Never gonna buy another HTC device
[HTC Sensation] thantos2024:
Don't see why it would be a hardware limitation for the sensation, when you consider that my Rom for the desire s has a 100% working sense 4.1 camera, burst mode auto focus, face recognition, hdr, panoramic, etc. If the Desire S is capable of it then I am pretty sure the sensation can.

Sent from, well, just over there.
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
msg me your screenshots and ill post them here....
[HTC Sensation] Alfhw:
If true Htc must burn in hell!!! Do they really think that people will buy again a top expensive smartphone like the Sensation from Htc? :confused:
[HTC Sensation] inv89:
I asked again and again. Their answer is same again today.XE dont get jelly bean :( I dont buy another htc after this
[HTC Sensation] Phencyclidine:
Yeah i will wait for a month and after that i will sell my sensation and buy Nexus 4.

HTC never again!
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
This is the screen shot provided by the user inv89:

Translation provided by the user inv89: "Shortly they say sensation, xe ,xl and evo 3d dont get jelly bean. They are not equal to get jelly bean."
[HTC Sensation] slobo2712:
they are bigest c.u.n.t.s on the earth....
[HTC Sensation] badboy47:
that sux! I am glad i moved to Nexus 4. so long HTC...
[HTC Sensation] inv89:
Firstly, We must be calm. HTC taiwan support says there is no information but htc turkey doesnt give precise information generally. If u remembered,desire s-ins s and hd got sense 3 and first news announced by Htc turkey. But I am very angry with htc.
[HTC Sensation] ephumuris:
I don't get why anyone would buy a phone on the hope it would keep getting updated. Buy the phone as it is advertised...any updates are just a nice bonus. We got ICS and it's fine for my needs!
[HTC Sensation] exxeHR:
I agree and i really like flash support, but sense 4 would be nice...
[HTC Sensation] Dredead:
Man, people don't read and spam the thread with repeated messages.

Don't be surprised, its not the first time they've done this.
[HTC Sensation] inv89:
There are lots of problems in stock rom. I have had them for a year. it doesnt got fix from htc. They fixed only maps error problem. if it can be good, we dont need jelly.
[HTC Sensation] Latstyle:
im kinda not rare user in htc europe support and annoy them now and then with questions about firmware updates etc. so anyways they always telling same thing about JB for Sensation -> "Until HTC verifies that the Jelly Bean update will function normally on devices like HTC Sensation they will not release it yet". so they not telling actually that it wont be released for Sensation anyways.
[HTC Sensation] Dredead:
The difference between a Sensation XE and a One XL is just a little over 200MB of RAM... That's all, and the XL already has its JB Sense 4+ update. If we haven't had it even announced by now, chances are it's not happening.
[HTC Sensation] James1o1o:
And the rest?

Sensation has an Adreno 220, the XL an Adreno 225.

Sensation has a Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon SoC with a Dual Core 1.2ghz Scorpion.

XL has a Qualcomm MSM8960 SnapdragonSOc with a Dual Core 1.5 Krait.
[HTC Sensation] Dredead:
There's no way JB is gonna require a graphics hardware upgrade over ICS. That's just a matter of drivers.

Also keep in mind I mentioned the XE. A 1.5GHz msm8260.

The phone can handle it
[HTC Sensation] lavafire:
I have learned that HTC is terrible when it comes to giving updates, they did this with Desire (original) which was my first smart phone. I was impressed with all the features it had at the time, and we all waited and waited for Android 2.3.. They firstly said it is not giving the user the best user experience but people on XDA already ported ROM which are Android 2.3... so yeah an entire development team founded by HTC is worse than some Dev playing around with their device in their free time... NICE!

I believe that the reason the new ROMs (Jelly) are buggy is because some drivers are required or should be at least updated. With these drivers Devs should be able to cook new ROMs which are less buggy. This is what I am assuming, so don't take my word for it.

I haven't used stock after 2 months with my HTC Sensation, and i am suprised HTC realeased any updates on this device. I have given up hoping for any new updates, but I guess somewhere deep inside still wanted to see one, hence why I am on this thread. Either way this is going to be my last HTC phone, unless they impress me in exactly 7 months. I recommend the same to other HTC users.
[HTC Sensation] Tanguy_ASM:
Meanwhile, Samsung update the Galaxy Ace 2. HTC s**ks
[HTC Sensation] k0zmic:
But that was released less than 6 months ago and AFAIK JB will be it's first update. The Sensation has gotten ICS so in HTC's eyes it's probably not entitled to anymore, especially considering it's nearly 2 years old.

I hope they do decide to update it though. The Desire shipped with 2.1, got 2.2 and 2.3 IIRC so HTC has updated it's flagship devices previously.
[HTC Sensation] XeloOw:
Maybe we will get an RUU like the Desire

Envoyé depuis mon HTC Sensation Z710e avec Tapatalk
[HTC Sensation] pera987:
I really really hope so...
[HTC Sensation] Latstyle:
100 % agree on this one. friend got himself new motorola razr i (phone that was a huge question on even ICS list) like a month ago and a few days ago he got a JB OTA... and as iv seen his device runs not so smooth like stock Sensation and not to mention that sgs2 getting JB almost like now.. and sgs2 and sensation almost the same
[HTC Sensation] Phencyclidine:
Do you know that Google bought Motorola?

Why are you surprised by JB on Motorola?
[HTC Sensation] Latstyle:
yup know that. im not surprised i just more and more thinking that they just lazy to release it for Sensation... maybe waiting for more hate messages/mails in their support center. not to mention that latest HTC news telling that employees sent tons of official letters to HTC director that they been working overtime last half year or so and didnt got fully paid yet
[HTC Sensation] Phencyclidine:
HTC have stupid politic for old devices and because of that they they losing money every day and finally they will disappear from list of top mobile phone companies.

They already disappeared from that list.
[HTC Sensation] k0vach:
New development

Hi guys, there might be a way to get Jelly Bean ported to our device now, since a phone with the very same SoC / GPU / Processor (Qualcomm MSM8260 / Adreno 220 / Snapdragon S3) just received an official Jelly Bean update from HTC. The phone in question is HTC One S C2.

Check it out here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2097612

Here is a comparison of the two phones, except for the higher frequency processor and a bit more ram, everything else is the same:

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4836&idPhone2=3922

I have less than 10 posts so I can't post in Development, so someone should notify the developers working there. I think they will appreciate the GPU drivers in this new ROM, they should work for our phone too.
[HTC Sensation] PopaStefanx:
R: Jelly Bean (JB) for the Sensation - OTA/Information/Update/ETAs/etc

We know that, but we dont have kernel source.

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[HTC Sensation] thantos2024:
That Rom has been available for about a month, but we still have the issue of the kernel, once the source code for kernel gets released we can then compare the changes between the CIS kernel and the jb kernel and port those changes to our devices, then we will be all systems go.
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
More than a month :p twas released 1-2 days after Christmas IIRC :)
[HTC Sensation] thantos2024:
Ups, I stand corrected, let's hope that HTC don't drag there feet too long on releasing the kernel source. I for one would like to start playing with this, both for the sensation and the desire s.
[HTC Sensation] Zarboz:
really just need to port current kernel to use ion instead of pmem in board files

i am working on it now but not making too much headway as i dont own a sensation/evo3d anymore :(
[HTC Sensation] Sultanxda:
All we really need is the board-pyramid-ion.c file that HTC conveniently decided to leave out.
[HTC Sensation] konjo236:
On htcdev there is now one xl 4.1 kernel sk,only don't have one s......When is htc realsed one s sense 4 how much time is passed for kernel source code?Does anyone remember?
[HTC Sensation] esvi76:
I understood half

But theres hope to get a "official custom" jb rom for sésation soon

When would they release the kernel source?

---------- Post added at 09:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:24 PM ----------

Isn't it possible to try different ones until it works?
[HTC Sensation] Latstyle:
well maybe they will finally have a time soon indeed (after new devices release in London) but that doesnt mean we have to stop annoy them in Support asking about it every day tho
[HTC Sensation] XxXPachaXxX:
R: Jelly Bean (JB) for the Sensation - OTA/Information/Update/ETAs/etc

This isn't the point...we need kernel source because a rom is created for a kernel base...we need this base to solve the big part of the rom bugs. The jb rom works with the current kernel, but it's full of bugs. And the ion isn't the problem, my beta kernel uses a lot the ion, also in my custom board, but it isn't the problem. As i said, kernel source can make we do less work on the rom, and to get a rom good for daily use ;)

Sent from the XxXSensationXxX
[HTC Sensation] Sultanxda:
The VilleC2 ICS kernel source has ION support and I ported it to the Sensation but when I compile the kernel with ION support the only error I get is that a file called board-pyramid-ion.c is missing.

However, even if someone managed to get ION to work on the Sensation, I'm pretty sure that a lot of stuff wouldn't work out of the box with Sense JB.

I wish, but Sense JB won't boot without ION, and your kernel can't be using ION because the board-pyramid-ion.c file is necessary for ION.
[HTC Sensation] ivanich:
board-pyramid-ion.c is not necessary for ION, it's just HTC tries implement ion on pyramid but seems failed :(

Just remove

ifeq ($(CONFIG_ION_MSM),y)
obj-$(CONFIG_MACH_PYRAMID) += board-pyramid-ion.o
endif

from arch/arm/mach-msm/Makefile and it should compile fine

also you need specify correct memory sizes and bases for ION
[HTC Sensation] konjo236:
why not to try with one xl kernel source code?
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Different cpu.
[HTC Sensation] ivanich:
Different SoC, CPU and memory mappings.
[HTC Sensation] Sultanxda:
I originally removed the board-pyramid-ion.o line and built the kernel with ION like that without the board-pyramid-ion.c file but ION still didn't work. :(

As for specifying the correct memory sizes and bases for ION, I have no idea how to do that.
[HTC Sensation] ivanich:
Of course it didn't work, because it also required kgsl>=3.12, new video drivers(mdp, msm_fb), iommu, msm-ion drivers(you can get it from codeaurora(CAF)), and simple copy-paste from ville kernel it's not real porting, if you still want to try it you can look at flintman github repo, he tries implement ION at shooter(EVO 3D) device which is almost identical to pyramid. I also tried implement some ION stuff to pyramid - ION works but had some problems with framebuffer memory allocation therefore graphics libs crashed after start.
[HTC Sensation] ivanich:
Dumb htc :fingers-crossed:
[HTC Sensation] sy224048:
You are the most Russian guy I know
[HTC Sensation] townay:
Not sure if this means anything..
[HTC Sensation] Sultanxda:
Simple merging AND fixing the hordes of compile errors :p I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable as you so it's not even close to being a good or usable port, but it is a port.
[HTC Sensation] ivanich:
It would be nice if you share your ION ported sources to see how close you are
[HTC Sensation] Sultanxda:
Probably not close at all. Here it is: https://bitbucket.org/sultanxda/sultan-kernel-pyramid-villec2
[HTC Sensation] ivanich:
In sources you provided I've found nothing related to ION in board-pyramid.{c,h} , so about what porting ion to pyramid are you talking? :)
[HTC Sensation] Sultanxda:
I never said I could port ION and it's 15 years too early for me to even try. I just said that I ported villec2 source to the pyramid so you can build a kernel for the pyramid using villec2 parts... and ION didn't work with it anyway so I gave up.
[HTC Sensation] djadrianc:
Had anyone else noticed this or is it the fact my phone is 18 months old?
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
This has been mentioned several times here that the 18-month hype was never actually signed and it doesn't exist. It was supposed to be for real but it didn't happen.

Plus Sensation XE which is almost the same as our sensation isn't 18 months old yet.

Plus Plus if such a contract existed, it would have mandated the companies to release uptades within 18 months of the release date of the update (it has nothing to do with the age of the phone), and JB has been released and announced months ago so if it existed, it would been applied to Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] konjo236:
I think they don't want to upload kernel source code for one s purposely....wtf i see there on htcdev they still uploading for 4.0,who needs that anymore
[HTC Sensation] ash123456678:
Haha they're probably reading this thread and laughing at us :)
[HTC Sensation] jokis777:
JB

i strated using jb roms a few months back. and I love it, but there is one huge problem with ALL of them.. and that is that the video recording doesnt have FOCUS. thats a major problem, and i dont understand how the camera on sence based roms have this feture, but non-sense doesnt. :(
[HTC Sensation] ash123456678:
I don't know but I think devs had problems with the camera drivers or something like that but I think the devs are still working to fix it :)
[HTC Sensation] 该隐之怨:
so disappointed .....:(
[HTC Sensation] ronattack:
Devs are already working on releasing sense 4.5 JB without kernel source :)
[HTC Sensation] nerdo:
That is devs in Team Venom to be more specific :D
[HTC Sensation] Daiskei:
Not only that but no more flash support either.
[HTC Sensation] BurnRubber90:
Has anyone tried compiling JellyBean from source yet?