yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC One S] Yves88:
Well, those guys are only doing their jobs. They just happen to be ill-informed.

Companies tend to not put their most knowledgeable employees on customer communication, just those with the most patience and lowest salary ;)
[HTC One S] tokyoahead:
I have a model that I bought in Taiwan but I am in Hong Kong right now. Do not seem to be getting the update yet. Anyone with a similar issue or someone who got it in Hong Kong already?
[HTC One S] invasion2:
Have you not read anything at all?

Sent from my HTC One S running ViperOneS!
[HTC One S] BackDaws:
Why dont Unlocked sim free phones get the update first ?
[HTC One S] MattDN93:
They should, we got the 4.0.4 update before carrier locked phones in August.
[HTC One S] flex420:
Only bla bla bla.... :mad::mad::mad:
[HTC One S] DanielBoca:
Well, for sure I can tell Tuesday 13 I will order my Nexus 4, why bother HTC ?

Not being able to have a fixed deadline for your own project it's like you don't know what you're doing...
[HTC One S] pierre.grand:
Still no HTC ONE S in the start.htcsense.com

No HTC ONE S in the start.htcsense.com site (new fucntionality coming with Sense 4+ with Jelly bean update) in the French site,

Only the HTC ONE X+ is present right now...see attachment

so that won't be for today, what a scoop ;)
[HTC One S] NoMercyWWE:
This has been there for Weeks on the german Page...so it is no proof to me but poor from HTC that they won't even answer my tweets.. asked them earlier if they ship jb due to the delay with 4.2
[HTC One S] freshmike:
Look, I understand your frustration, we are all in the same boat, but it's not because it's HTC, it's because everything else in NOT vanilla Google. My girlfriend has a I9000 and same story with Samsung, it took ages to get from GB 2.2 to 2.3.3. That's a generic issue with Andriod fragmentation. I don't understand why venders put their own cr@p onto the OS. Why can't they do it like with Windows, different venders, same OS, taada!

Back to HTC, I love my One S, considered the Nexus 4 but the horrible size of the nexus display is just a no go for me.
[HTC One S] GrimTG:
So HTC has been lying to everyone. The HTC One S special edition is on that HTCsense website, Now as many of you know the only difference between the Special Edition and the regular One S....Is that the S.E is White and has JB on it. The same exact specs as our phone. Which means HTC finished the update and they are just B.S-ing us and not releasing the update >=(

https://start.htcsense.com/#devices/TW
[HTC One S] MattDN93:
Now THAT is a load of nonsense on HTCs part, you see what they're doing, they'd rather push out new devices with JB preloaded then go to the effort of updating already existing devices...thanks for noticing that mate...
[HTC One S] --anx--:
Well...at the end of the process, we have to wait, Samsung's customers have to wait, LG's customers have to wait...every user who don't have a NEXUS device have to wait for every update when a new Android distribution will be released.

That's the real, sad, thing...if we don't want to wait, we have to choose NEXUS (or an iPhone), either way we have to live with it...the waiting game...

Personally i'll wait, cause I like One S and his design, his low weight and his materials, without forget to mention his reduced size if compared with top phones like One X, S3 and...Nexus 4.

That's why i'll wait.

Or if I can't...well...i'll root again and try a cyanogen mod... :D :D :D

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Just an update: I HAVE A DATE!

This was obtained by an user of an italian forum, in HTC section:

Please kindly wait for our agent to assist ...

It is in contact with Tanya.

Tanya: Hi **xxxx**, thank you for contacting HTC Technical Support. How can I help you?

**xxxx**: hello

**xxxx**: I would like to ask why the update has not yet come to jelly beans on my htc one x

Tanya: the update will be released November 19

**xxxx**: one for all x?

**xxxx**: or in specific regions?

Tanya: for htc one X europe

**xxxx**: ah thanks was very kind

**xxxx**: I wish you a good day

As you can see, the chat support gave to that user the date of 19th November, for HTC ONE X by the way...but I think that can be meant for the One S too...who knows...
[HTC One S] cheddar 151:
HTC has no incentive to hand out updates

HTC makes money selling phones. If HTC gives away the latest software for use on older phones, we users will have less incentive to buy a new phone. That is a direct cost to HTC and they are going to be very reluctant to do this.

Verizon, T-Mob, ATT, Sprint make money by signing us to new contracts. That is more likely if we buy a new phone with the latest software. If they make it easy for us to get the latest software to use on older phones, we have less incentive to buy a new phone and sign a new contract. That is a direct cost to carriers and they are going to be very reluctant to do this.

Is it really a mystery to you why the roll-out of 4.1 and 4.2 are taking so long? HTC and the carriers will not do this until the cost of doing so is minimal, which means the "lost sales" of giving away the new OS, compared to bundling the newest OS with the newest hardware, is low.

The only hope for the end user is minimize the cost advantage to HTC and Carrier of curent policy, which is probably not possible, or going outside their process and to places like XDA and rooting and taking responsibility for doing it yourself. This has a cost to users in risk and time and knowledge and makes it more likely that a great percentage of people will buy a new phone and sign a new contract to get the latest software.

That's the free market.
[HTC One S] Frakkia:
Just asked on Htc support site for the One S (Italy), they answered me 19th November too
[HTC One S] --anx--:
Well, so that was referred to One S too...glad to hear this! :good:

OT

...and your nickname??? FRACCHIA??? :victory::victory::victory: Great one friend!!! :good:;)

OT
[HTC One S] mikness360:
You don't count the fact that users won't buy any htc because they don't release updates for their brand new phones, but considering more and more nexus phones just for it

Htc think I'm stupid if I'm gonna replace a phone that was launched merely six months ago

That's consumers logic

Neither Samsung or any brand, think I'm gonna buy a Google phone from now on

Nexus s has 4.1.2 wtf
[HTC One S] Inferi0r:
And let's get fair guys.

Most of us didnt buy this phone for android jb. It wasnt even announced the date this phone was released. We were happy enough with the pre-installed Android (and coming update to v4.0.4) otherwise we wouldnt buy this device.

Ofcourse I like updates, but even with Android 5.0 coming my One S is still the same One S as I buyed it.

If you want fast updates buy a Nexus, you all should even know that before you got your One S. HTC didnt changed, they are slow with updates, now and in the past. Some of you maybe changed, but keep in mind your phone is still the same device with same software.

HTC knows also that most of their buyers are not tweakers like us. Did your little sister our grandpa care about his android software number? I know so much people who dont even know what kind of android version they have and yes I do even know people who didnt update their phone ever, they just dont know about an update option.
[HTC One S] NoMercyWWE:
However not HTC but Google promised that updates for every google android device will be released more quickly this year, that is what promise htc wont seem to keep and that is obviously one point that makes us users developers and tweakers more angry- maybe they could drop htc sense (in this case they wont be unique anymore) but updates will be released quicker..

They should keep their promises once they make them to be a reliable company once again (as they ve proven in the past)

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take Samsung for expample their ugly touchwiz seems to get updatet every once in a while. I read of several jellybean updates...
[HTC One S] --anx--:
Several "LEAKED" updates...the official update of Jelly Bean is ONLY ONE, and in Italy it was released only few days ago!

So, Samsung or HTC, it's the same boat...with the difference that the Sense UI is way better than Touch Wiz...and I had an S3 for a month...
[HTC One S] NoMercyWWE:
If there were several leaks before they release than i will believe that the update actually will be released to public - why is there a leak for htc one x and no clue for htc one s?
[HTC One S] --anx--:
Eh...this is a very good question...I bet because the One X is very well supported by the community and by developers...and that phone is an high end device...

One S has poor support by the developers, and is a mid class phone, that's why One S "lacks of leaks" by the community or developers...
[HTC One S] NoMercyWWE:
so many developers think wrong , our specs maybe less superior but in terms of battery life and durability - i will never switch to an almost easily breakable and low battery phone that the one x or one x+ is...

for me that may only be my own oppinion but the one s is superior to the x in all but screen size and memory.

In the next year my wish is to combine the best of htc one s, one x and 8s features to make the ultimate device:

Durable, Long Battery life, Qualcomm processor, sd card slot, at least 64gb of internal memory, big screen - 4,5" should be enough!
[HTC One S] --anx--:
Your words are right, One S is the best of HTC's One series...but this isn't the flagship of that company, and it isn't an high-spec device.

For me, for you and for many people here, One S is absolutely great in all its features (and it is, of course, no doubts about it)...but the most of the people will always buy the best in the market at the moment...and the best (in terms of HW specs) is the One X for HTC. :(
[HTC One S] freshmike:
Not correct:

September 24th:

The official Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update for the Samsung Galaxy S3 has begun rolling out to handsets in Central Europe.

Samsung has confirmed Galaxy S3 handsets in Poland can now get Jelly Bean via the Kies desktop software or through an over the air (OTA) update.
[HTC One S] --anx--:
That was the official announce...but the real thing was NOT MANY JELLY BEAN RELASES, but ONLY ONE...and that one was found on EU devices, at least here in Italy as you can read on many Italian blogs, only few days ago.

Even HTC said the previous month that before the end of October they was ready to rollout the jelly bean update for One series...and now?

We're still waiting...
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Lol...........one S not high end compared to the X? :confused: If anything the one S is more high end than the X.

The only things, which the X has over the S is the screen (biggest advantage), NFC and more internal storage. Tegra 3 chipset drags the X down to the mid-range class.

Unless you really care about the above, we have the better phone overall:

- audio quality

- build and perceived quality

- FAR better battery life

- the much better CPU chipset (overall beats the GS 3 quad exynos chipset too)

Amongst other wee things like the video recording being better (even though the camera sensor etc. is the same, it looks better i.e. smoother and better light metering compared to the X)

Regarding the updates, tbf, the only non nexus device that has received the update officially is the galaxy S 3 (and it only just started getting the update like 1-2 weeks ago [in the UK] and considering that Samsung don't have many phones to support and have the less customised skin, the bigger company overall that has way more money, workers etc. the update should have been out for the GS 3 ages ago......) and the only phones to have been shipped with the update is the note II, GS 3 LTE model and the one X+.
[HTC One S] --anx--:
But i'm not saying that One S is worse than One X...if you read exactly I said that One X is THE FLAGSHIP PHONE OF HTC, and, technically speaking, One X numbers ARE HIGHER than One S...

Now, we all know that One S power is perfectly comparable to One X and GS3, and it's absolutely powerful and competitive in every aspect...and we all know that Tegra 3 it's a letdown for the One X...BUT...the high percentage of people out there will only see that, always TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, One X it's better than One S, and overally that's enough to make people prefer One X to One S.

In my opinion, I'LL REPEAT THAT AGAIN JUST IN CASE, One S is better after all, with the exception of the display (One X screen it's really fantastic).

...and you're right about the update situation regarding NON NEXUS phones, as I said before...
[HTC One S] ibolito:
Best. Post. Ever.
[HTC One S] usaff22:
This thread is just going in circles.

"But Nexus S has 4.1.2!!!!!!"

"That's a nexus device."

"WTFFFFFF that's not fair!!!!!!!!!"

x100000

Sent from my locked, tampered ville
[HTC One S] n0j0e:
This thread is like 'Duke Nukem Forever'! :beer:
[HTC One S] NoMercyWWE:
Exept DNF was Bad and has been already released with a small delay. And we knew it existed. The Update for Ville however there has been no proof HTC just pretends go release it.

Reminds me a little of the sad DHD Story...

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It they will not keep their promise i switch to htc 8x in the Future because than Microsoft will deliver the only thing htc fails in...
[HTC One S] MattDN93:
Here's an idea...let's (like some intelligent posters here have been pointing out) all be grateful for the devices we have, and unlike the idiots making 6 new "I'm selling my One S for a Nexus 4 cause they have updates" threads, we can chill with perfectly working ICS ROMs, or alternately, find an AOSP JB ROM if we're in a hurry, and stop pandering to endless consumerism that HTC wants us to. They are turning us into rabid update bunnies, for crying out loud this phone has only been available for like 7 months and everyone is already crying and going to the Nexus 4 based on ONE system update. I suspect they'll be back...Nexus as a Google-only AOSP device line is good, but LG making the device? Pssh, preferred HTC and Samsung Nexus devices... Anyways, nothing further from me till we see JB OTA screenies on someone's device, whenever that might be. I'm chilled.
[HTC One S] usaff22:
Awesomely said, I for one will be keeping this phone for a long while like my Wildfire, updates or no updates.

Sent from my locked, tampered ville
[HTC One S] lykos:
A few pages back the HTC One S+ has been confirmed with Jellybean. That is as good of a leak as anything else. A dev could grab it and make a ROM out of it, I may even try if I have time.
[HTC One S] luxandroid:
Where could we find that leak of jb ROM S+?
[HTC One S] usaff22:
You need its RUU
[HTC One S] luxandroid:
Ok,but where usually RUU of some ROM can be fined,and if you know is S+ ,like s3 or s4
[HTC One S] MattDN93:
Wait is this another device, the One S+ or simply the One S Special Edition with the same chipset and 64GB storage which came with JB in Taiwan?
[HTC One S] luxandroid:
As I understand it's the same, only white color and 64 gigs but is it like S3 same or like s4 same?!
[HTC One S] info.brandenburg:
Its the S4 chipset. All the same exept color and 64GB.

sources:

http://www.htc.com/tw/smartphones/htc-one-s-se/#specs
[HTC One S] Vauix:
Yes thats the SE, the "S+" confused me aswell, like i missed a model.
[HTC One S] --anx--:
Just another news regarding HTC direct contact...2 days ago, from Twitter, I've sent a tweet to HTCItaly, in order to know something new about JB:

--anx--: "This morning my One S told me that in October Jelly Bean was not going to find him...he just wanted to know when he'll go to find him..."

HTCItalia: "Tell him he should arrive soon. And please remind him that he is already a gem."

--anx--: "He already knows it, but he was disappointed because if someone says that they give him a new suit, and then nothing, well..."

I wanted to be funny...but always the same things...let's keep 19th November as the release date for now.
[HTC One S] electro`:
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2012/1...ne-software-updates-telstra-optus-vodafone-8/

Telstra One S testing delayed to mid-November which means we will most likely have the update by 8th of December or sooner. :)
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
That is Telstra One S only. Mine is an unbranded one.

I think we will have it one month after HOX like the last time 4.0.4 sense4.1 .....
[HTC One S] Paqu1:
Actually One S got the android 4.0.4 update couple weeks earlier than HOX. At that time sense version remained the same, but when the update finally arrived to HOX as well it brought the exact same features which One S already got, even tho sense version was different.

Bit later One S received another update which updated sense to 4.1 but nothing else changed.
[HTC One S] hoffeck:
Precise information....

Gesendet von meinem Neo-X8 mit Tapatalk 2
[HTC One S] ATSPerson:
Not quite sure what definition of precise is demonstrated by the phrase near future.

But more importantly unless anyone's heard any different, we still have no confirmed cases of OTA jb in Asia. So they are spinning a line.
[HTC One S] badmoj0:
How do these updated work? Are they somehow different in different parts of the world even for non-carrier phones?

How is it possible that a company like HTC cannot release something like a software update Internationally at the same time for everyone?
[HTC One S] usaff22:
Because their update servers cannot handle the stress of everyone downloading the update at the same time.
[HTC One S] Inferi0r:
I cant believe that Europeans users download their updates from Asian servers. They are too slow most time and have too bad latency.
[HTC One S] badmoj0:
How Big is a major version update? A few hundred megs? How in the Hell can't an International company handle updates that small? It's 2012 people!
[HTC One S] Orical:
I agree the zip version is around 500 to 650mbs but unpacked it more than a gig. They have their own servers for this specifically so they have the ability to transfer as much as they want but it shouldn't be an issue either way, it's not like they are moving a whole servers worth of data to each person.
[HTC One S] usaff22:
I reckon the OTA will be around 400MB, judging by the One X update. The RUU will be even bigger.
[HTC One S] cheddar 151:
They have no incentive to give out for free a new operating system for older phones if they can use the new operating system to sell new phones. This is not a mystery or a matter of servers or compatitbility. It's just business.
[HTC One S] rajackar:
Not quite. The biggest competitor in the smartphone market for any company making android phones is apple and they support older models with new software for a very long time. I'm no apple fan but you have to give them that. In that light it could be very wise to let potential customers see that you will support the product they might buy for some time.
[HTC One S] electro`:
I have an unbranded USA HOS too, which is typically rare. But that gives people a good idea when updates will start rolling.
[HTC One S] kulam5421:
I wish this was the case with Android, but we have to see the upperhand Apple has with the updates as it only focuses on basically 4 phones (3gs, 4,4s and iPhone 5) while other manufacturers has a lot on their plate to focus on. Still not an excuse IMO as far as HTC is concerned, as they cannot even give a little love for their flagship and its little brother internationally.
[HTC One S] --anx--:
Well...in the meantime...I gave up, and trying the CyanogenMod 10... :D
[HTC One S] Orical:
They are doing what I call the forced buy, first they release a device with a build people wanted on their last device but in the mean time the put the new build on a later release in hopes you sell the last one to get the full price of the next. It's becoming more obvious as time goes on but it's still a ****ty way to do business.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
You are not correct, they aren't no different at all. The One S 2.31(4.0.4 sense 4.1) camera white balance is definitely better than One S 2.21(4.0.4 sense 4.0).

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Asian region mostly are on One S(S3) ver and Euro more are running on S4 cpu.

I just read from a Taiwan forum and yes there was an update for One S yesteday but for S3 CPU, not JB though.

112.1MB

2.15.950.101

sense 4.1

4.0.4
[HTC One S] usaff22:
I thought this was a JB thread, not a thread for discussing HTC's business plan?

Sent from my locked, tampered ville
[HTC One S] Orical:
Here we go, can't we all just get along here? It's getting stuffy in here.
[HTC One S] Geegeeoh:
Sure, but on the old models sometimes they just update the version number without any of new stuff...
[HTC One S] usaff22:
You can discuss it, but preferably in a different thread. We don't want it closed for off-topic discussion.

Sent from my locked, tampered ville
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Was watching this video:

[youtube]4sNvscbp2d8[/youtube]

And they mentioned about USB OTG being supported on sense V4+ now! :D (skip to 2.25 for the USB OTG feature)

Really can't wait for this new sense V4+ version, looks really good and apparently the white balance is much better on the camera app too :cool: (read it on a forum elsewhere)

Annoying that you can't remove that power saving thing from the notification bar though.....
[HTC One S] Orical:
When it pertains to the manner of their updating procedures and the reasoning behind the lack of their support on devices they release then it couldn't be more on topic, it's a shame more don't see why they do it.
[HTC One S] MattDN93:
The OTG feature is awesome...or looks it certainly! Do you think it's One X+ specific or will all Sense 4+ updated phones also get it? I know there's a root required method currently available but they mention that you'll need to power the device or peripheral manually and the micro USB port doesn't provide the power, will this be the case when we get updated do you think?

Here's the thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1629134&highlight=usb+host
[HTC One S] Darknites:
You can use a flash drive on AOKP with no outside power source.
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Since the video is based on only sense V4+ features and the guy said "a new feature of sense V4+", I would say yes, as long as the USB devices can be powered.

I certainly hope it isn't only for the X+!

Android central are pretty good when it comes to reviews etc. so I doubt they will have got things mixed up/wrong.....
[HTC One S] Orical:
I thought that dongled usb feature was pretty cool, I hope that applies to something like a Bluetooth dongle for headphones as well. Can you imagine someone walking around with a Sony PS3 headset talking on it, huge headset I would do that at a store walking around with my daughter just to be embarrassing.
[HTC One S] ECEXCURSION:
Slightly on topic, as we're talking about powered OTG.

The HTC One XL (which I own) does not support OTG or powered OTG out of the box. As most of you are aware it is very similar to the One S. A forum member named flar2 was nice enough to produce a flashable kernel for us that enabled OTG without the need of an external power source. Having said that, HTC can do this too. Their hardware supports it. Chances are the One S is the same way. :thumbup:

Sent from my HTC One XL
[HTC One S] rgbggb:
I hope someone can give me some clues:

So i have an HOS branded with fido(which is basically a subsidiary of rogers here in canda) and, believe it or not, we still didnt get the 4.0.4 update yet...(makes you wonder about when were gonna get the JB update lol) Filled with rage, i decided to go on a quest to find out how to get the updates on my phone like all you unbranded lucky people get. Any chances i can get the updates without having to switch to SuperCID ?? And how ?
[HTC One S] usaff22:
You can try typing in the following in your dialer:

*#*#CHECKIN#*#*

Then go to Settings and check for updates again.

Sent from my locked, tampered ville
[HTC One S] v3n3:
Zarbos´s Kernel Supports it ;)