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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] welchertc:
Pretty sure so long as the developers aren't making any money by charging for their ROM that had search added back in there's not much Apple could do. Android is open source allowing anybody to write custom code however they please. So long as you're not taking money away from somebody else or doing something illegal like stealing identity information, there's not much Apple could do. The reason that Samsung is catching hell is because they are making money off of it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BlackElvis79:
This is ridiculous!!

http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/7/3/3136102/google-samsung-software-update-galaxy-nexus-infringement
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BlackElvis79:
Is this OTA forced on all GNex phones? (Rooted and non-rooted) And if it is, could spoofing your model stop the OTA?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
There's one in the Play Store thread who just sold his Skyrocket and is now stuck without a phone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] akira02rex:
Chevy just patented the steering wheel. Ferrari and Porsche now use gestures to drive their vehicles.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xdp:
They actually removed that in JB? Are you serious??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Screwhead24:
Ya know LOL.... :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] amdkalban:
Apple posted the 96 million

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/3/3136023/samsung-request-stay-galaxy-nexus-injunction-denied-Apple

Jelly bean might lose some features

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/3/3136102/google-samsung-software-update-galaxy-nexus-infringement

questions: can you go to Canada buy the phone, get back to the U.S. ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/google/go...264-patent-settlement-microsoft-chuckles/3660 I think I'm going to cry. Why is everyone picking on cute little Android? it's not his fault he's so cool
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] anton2009:
What does this have to do with Android? Microsoft is the lesser of two evils in this article...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ...Awesome...:
Just so you guys know if your rooted AND on a custom rom the OTA will not affect non of you...

If your NOT rooted or rooted but no custom rom you will receive the OTA....

Personally to stick it to Apply I would reject the downgrade....

Unless the fix will come already pre installed with the OTA JellyBean upgrade then you be the judge whether to upgrade or not.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rasinell:
I think whether or not you use the function is not the point. And while I don't believe it to be doom and gloom like some have posted I do believe that if these patents don't get overturned for being the b.s they are that this is could be very damaging for Androids rep, it will give the impression to the ill informed (let's face it, that's most people) that jobs was right in saying Android is a rip off. But most importantly, yes we can get around it with custom roms but we will be loosing features and functionality and it will make stock Android look and feel rubbish.

The only way forward is for google to finally stand up, throw everything they have at apple.

F apple in its grandma's A.

Just my thoughts :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rayiskon:
the new OTA is kind of a smart move from Google and Samsung , that way they would eliminate the main reason for the injunction. the cdma versions and takju will most probably get the no search bar version, the yakju and yakjuxw should be safe. it won't be that hard for devs to include any missing stuff (from the main OTA coming in two weeks) for cdma and takju roms. so no fears guys ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dhruvraj:
And then Apple comes to sue them for exactly that
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] matt30:
Called it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
samsung should ship with a "troll safe" stripped down "special" version of android which consists only of a call button and 10 dial-knobs, no unlock, no hyperlinks, no text recognition, no search on more than two databases at the same time. as soon as it arrives on the "free market" in the land of justice, oems or users could then install open source AOSP, hopefully outside of any scumbag lawyers scope, by their own will via OTA. it would also end fragmentation issues.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] anton2009:
This is all but a pipe dream. :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] segv11:
Well it's a better pipe than what Apple's smoking.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
What? That would just drive Samsung's sales into the ground.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
samsungs sales are in the ground either way as it seems

looks like they can also choose to "compete" with a phone that will not utilize "zero lenght swipes", aka taps. to "innovate" on that could maybe be possible by using the sensors in a kind of ballancing fashion:

and how about the data action patent

well, i guess samsung could throw a randomizer in there to innovate on that. or maybe ballace the cursor on the field and shaking twice as hard as you can for email and shaking thrice for sharing and shaking four times for copy/paste

how about text recognition, slides and all the other bull****. :cyclops:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
You're not making a bit of sense.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hazerm:
Apple, No way.

Hate it how Apple laughed at Android over fragmentation at WWDC 2012 when Android 2.3 Gingerbread or maybe even 2.2 Froyo is on par with or better than their iOS 6.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
How does iOS being better or worse than Android have anything to do with the fact that Android has a fragmentation problem?

Further still, what does it have to do with the injunction?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jcr81:
Wouldn't a workaround be to just remove the search widget from the stock launcher since its baked in and then also removing the Quick search box apk via an ota update. Google could then just let users download the search apk from the market. That would force Apple to either shut up or sue Google as Samsung has nothing to do with the app store and Google is not currently a party to the lawsuit.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FL0OD:
Exactly. And if you have a gnex and its not rooted you should return it. Why did you buy a gnex in the first place? All the little arguments about, "well I bought it because I wanted to get updates first", or "I wanted a pure android experience", are lame. This is a development phone. Root your phone. Then all this update and patch garbage is just that, garbage.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sensation-al!:
Pretty sure he was kidding...

Sent from 3000 years in the future from my extremely outdated, but still extremely awesome HTC Sensation Z710e
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] molesarecoming:
this is the reason i like xda and im with you 100%. fact remains that only a handful root their phones. in my country suggest root in an android forum and you get lynched. if oems would not reject liability and if google would make it as easy as possible and declare it official things could be different but as long people have to fool around in CWM on their own risk its not an option. you alone will have that feature, 99.9999% of all android users wont, including all the magazines and blogs writing in their reviews how badly behind android is because it cannot even search or write an email if you tap a hotlink. if this patent nonsense goes on like this i dont know what will be the outcome - its complete insanity.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LoveNFC:
No, your post is garbage. It's not a 'development phone'. This is a consumer's phone as much as it is a 'development phone', probably more so actually. If it were a device intended purely for developing applications and flashing ROMs, it would not be available through mainstream channels, for example being available on contract, sold in physical store locations and having display models next to iPhones.

The Nexus devices are getting popular. The Galaxy Nexus became the top-selling phone in the UK upon release (why would a 'development phone' be available on contract from three different major networks?). It's very possible that people who root their Nexus devices are now in the minority.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Djabolic:
GNex is the best smartphone I've ever used. You're making a very subjective comment about a device and you're expanding it to everyone. This interests noone but you.

Your post is pure garbage from what I've seen so far.

It's a freaking god damn phone, it is called as development phone because their first target for testing and releasing OS' is this phone. You have understanding issues.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] helldogg75:
Apple just patented Google glass
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
Google isn't removing search. All they have to do is remove search of local content. Whether a judge agrees with this workaround is still not clear. Making it only market accessible would mean 99% of users would never download it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xxprodigyxx11:
Apple has patented the patent system. A response to this has yet to be issued by the patent office as Apple has also patented responses.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] italia0101:
i wonder if this affects users outside the us then?

im in the uk, i think not having the local search would be a blow. it is useful
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] burhanistan:
Galaxy Nexus no longer available to purchase from Google Play website, will return next week
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Killasmoke:
How about we all keep calling Apple customer care or whatever & tell them the device where I'm looking for isn't in stock or not available for purchase when they ask you what model or device your asking about we say the Galaxy Nexus!!! &

we keep calling with same? Over & over again each of us do that call at lease 10+ or more time along with eveyone else who thinks this **** sucks what apple doing I mean we need the whole Android community to stand up even if they don't have a Nexus device

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
That is a terrible idea and accomplishes nothing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] matt30:
Welcome to the world of old news.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] live4nyy:
Why are some people always against taking any kind of action?

I don't think @Killasmoke actually believes this will "fix" the problem, I just think he wants to annoy Apple and be a hindrance to their daily operation, in which case that plan would accomplish exactly what it was meant to do.

But whatever, I'm not saying you have to do anything but what's the point in being a discouragement to others that do want to do something? A story like this needs exposure, so if a bunch of kids wants to be a nuisance and disrupt Apple's CS lines and that gets other media outlets (other than tech blogs) to pay attention then maybe that's what needs to happen.

What we really need is an organized response that is directed through the proper channels. Publicity can help attract more people to the cause. This is how it works. Make people aware, then educate those people on the principles, and then take action through systematic engagement.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Android-Junky:
This is a great idea..also record it and post on YouTube.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jellydroid13:
I have my money down that the judge has an ipad an iphone and a mac at home.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FL0OD:
This is actually two both of the people that commented on my post. If you have a gnex and youre not rooted why are you even here? There are many phones you can buy and like the gs2/gs3 and just be happy with your stock device. You are probably the same people that complain about getting updates from Google when the rest of us have moved on. I remember people with stock Nexus S's crying about ICS coming out when the rooted community had been using it for months. Still waiting on JellyBean with your stock phone? Got it the day after it dropped because of the awesome dev community we have here. If you are stock you have no idea what your phone can do or be. Buying a phone purely on the stock experience or to wait around for updates to ME is silly. Buy it, root it, and use your phone to its fullest potential. Thats why I have had several neXus devices. I know the potential right out of the box, not what it seems to be on the surface. You guys enjoy your slow boring stock devices and I will continue to live on the bleeding edge which is really what the gnex was designed for.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] live4nyy:
Right, let's just continue to alienate the Android community. Like you're in some exclusive club. Open the shades man, average people enjoy using Android, it doesn't mean they have to hack, mod, and otherwise do things that go beyond their needs. I agree that people should not complain but it doesn't mean they don't belong here. The reason the level of hacking/modding is even required is because the wants and needs of this community remains in the minority.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FL0OD:
Maybe in the main stream its a small community but I wouldn't expect that in and on a website that was created around development.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jmattp:
Maybe contacting Apple's legal department would help. I mean... if enough people did it, at least they would know they are pissing a lot of people off, especially if they're Apple customers.

Don't listen to the naysayers. If enough people speak up about any issue, they get noticed.

http://www.apple.com/legal/contact/

Don't just say, "Apple sucks!" or "Give back the Galaxy Nexus!"

Try to briefly and intelligently explain your position on software patents and why it's dangerous to innovation to own a basic computing function like search, or to patent a digital version of a centuries-old method of unlocking something. "Slide to unlock" mimics actual slide locks on doors and gates.

I personally will not buy Apple products as long as they're trying to destroy competition through patent trolling.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] live4nyy:
I understand that XDA was created by and for developers but that doesn't mean the devs and the average Joe can't be assets to one another. I'm not even really sure where your comment stemmed from, maybe I need to read the last few pages again, but I just think it's detrimental if the community becomes fragmented.

I apologize if my comment seemed contemptuous. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FL0OD:
Hate to say but your comment about the community being fragmented is semi true. There is the modding community and people that are stock. I just saw a bunch of people worrying about that ota which is going to derp a lot of there search functionality and my main point was ROOT. That and I got on a rant about people buying gnexs and leaving them stock. Just some friendly banter on the 4th:D

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Killasmoke:
If enough people do it the story will get out there & if tons of people voice there opinion to shed light on this thing is we can't be cussing or disrespect cuz then we'll be looking bad & people wouldn't care 2 ****s about what we have to say I left 2 twitter messages asking Obama to fix the patent system Apple Inc. is trying to stifle innovation! YouTube is cool to get the message out actually tape the when you call Apple with complaint but need to talk clear calm how would IOS users feel if they woke up that there device where pulled off the shelves for say a widget or something stupid or Google took YouTube & all there products out of iOS they would feel pissed & think it where wrong sorry for this run on rant but I'm going to call Apples like 10+ & if all us do it including all Android users not just in America people could call Apple Inc. From all over this world we need to be in all in this call Apple Inc. needs to be in all general threads on xda & other Android sites

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andrewdroid:
I'm just coming in from the Samsung Captivate forums, I bopped in here because I've been trying to keep tabs on the Apple Android wars, and GNex is the latest battle ground. So I wanted to see what XDA'ers were saying.

Please don't alienate folks that are new to the rooting, flashing world. Some folks just aren't ready to do that yet, it took me quite a while to feel comfortable to do it.

Regardless, for $350 unlocked, no contract, this is a serious deal on a high-powered, google flagship phone.

No wonder that freaks out Apple.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] live4nyy:
And I understand where you're coming from. Just in light of these "patent wars" I have realized our user base needs to be more collective and cooperative.

Not to sound melancholy, but I'm just afraid if Apple continues to win these types of battles that eventually they could come after development communities in the future. Might sound absurd but who would have thought we would even be having this discussion a few years ago. Happy 4th.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sully6789:
http://www.change.org/petitions/voters-impeach-us-district-judge-lucy-koh

It might not accomplish much, but at least its a start. Its obvious this judge was bought and paid for by Apple. Bias does not belong in the courtroom.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kohawk09:
yup, that'd be me lol... sucks big time. i had it in my cart, went to check out and got an error. story of my life with this sh** lol. Skyrocket goes in the mail tomorrow morning, so back to my old samsung flip phone that has cingular branded all over it. Hopefully the news about it being available again next week holds through - this is going to be a tough week or so!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ImSherlocked:
U.K. court rules HTC smartphones do not infringe Apple patents
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bzmotoninja83:
Dammit...... just whrn I'm ready.to.go.to the nexus line.of fun pocket toys, I'm shut out. I've got a vivid and a skyrocket, both on ICS, so its not all bad I guess.......
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
It's all tied together if you haven't read all articles. just another wolf attacking from another corner.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xdp:
So I'd rather stick to stock Android over CM9 or other ROMs if possible. If this or future OTAs actually remove functionality, do you think pure AOSP from Google would still retain it? In other words could I follow Google's instructions to flash AOSP on the Nexus to get the full experience back?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
Oh yeah, to add insult to injury, the Jelly Bean Statue at Google has melted, and someone stole one of the jellybeans inside

Google's Jelly Bean statue overheats and melts
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smeelious:
People need to stop hating on Judge Koh...Seriously.

Read up on some of her judgements to date, and some interesting comments she's made regarding these patent lawsuits. She is also a crap-ton more qualified to make rulings on IP than anyone in these forums.

Yes, Apple is leveraging ridiculous patents to stifle competition. That isn't her fault. Asking to impeach a judge based on one / two (which are basically the same ruling) preliminary rulings that you disagree with is just plain disrespectful.

Judges in other districts (Read: not the U.S.A.) aren't encumbered by silly U.S. Patent law.

Honestly the burden of proof should lie with Apple, and it seems to me that the opposite is the case. I really don't get patent law at all. Preliminary injunctions on outdated products serve no purpose. Yes, the Gnex is outdated, most people who will own them already do, (like me!) and even then it is a small share of the market. Patents on software should be specific implementations, not general catch-alls designed to limit competition.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jameslepable:
Don't know if anybody has noticed this in Google Now but if you where to search for an app lets say calculator you would get a return of this...

http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach.../7/6/8/0/2/Screenshot_2012-07-04-16-33-21.jpg

and then using the action bar you have to choose that you are searching for an app.

http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach.../7/6/8/0/3/Screenshot_2012-07-04-16-34-12.jpg

IMO this circumnavigation apples BS patent on universal search because you choose whether or not you want an app or a web search pic search etc. Apple could surely not argue with this in JB. The search engine is not searching multiple data bases, it is searching one database that you choose. Obviously it is much quicker if it knows but its only one more click.

If in the future if they allow you to open apps on command (I know you could but not sure now as Google Now is patchy in the UK atm) then that would not be searching multiple databases either as you are directing you phone to "open" an app.

If the judge doesn't see these work around to be sufficient then she is defiantly on the books and if I where in charge of Samsung/Google I would appeal for a different judge.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tomatoes8:
If an ancient Android OS is better than the latest Apple OS, are the lack of updates actually a problem? He is implying that Froyo and Gingerbread is already more "updated" than IOS6 which makes the so called fragmentation "problem" non existent or nothing more than a marketing or Apple fanboy construct.

You get it? Maybe he could have phrased it better but i got his point.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rosswaa:
If things don't shape up I'll go down to apple myself and take a bite out of them ! Then bOnk em on the head with my GN !
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sienna Hanon:
Take action, absolutely. But take action in a positive manner. Playing "denial of service" on Apple's CS line will put the whole Android community in a negative spotlight on the evening news. Trying to impeach a judge who is limited to the rules of the system won't help. Simply crying "Apple is evil" won't help.

Rather, if you want to see change:

1) Support the EFF

2) Write / Call your Congress reps on patent reform

3) Write / Call Apple's patent office

And instead of saying "you suck", provide a solution, and be polite.

For instance, I just submitted the following to Apple's patent office:

And above all, vote with your wallet, and influence your non-techy friends who look to you for advice.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
This. The reason SOPA/PIPA was tabled was because a lot of people were calling their Congressmen about the issue
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nbdysreal:
A little off topic but I wonder if an iPad mini comes out around 7inches if Samsung or Google/Asus can go after them for copying the look as Apple did to the 10.1 Samsung Tab? I know the mini is A rumor but could possible level the field or offset lawsuits that lead to cross licensing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SITH16:
I punish apple by jailbreaking and unlocking other peoples iphones. I get a zing of satisfaction every time I show someone how to download apps and music from cydia and instalous. And when they ask me why I don't have one, I tell them its because I have a better phone...then I show them my phone. They are always envious of me.

Some have even went out and gotten them an android and tell me later they could never go back back to icontrol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] akmzero:
Better to punish them by not buying/using the products.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] anton2009:
I haven't used my newest gen iPod ever since Play Music has come out and synced all my music (in iTunes + more) to my phone... 4g unlimited streaming is great. :D:good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] infazzdar:
I would really like to meet the judge that granted the injunction..

These kind of cases need to be handled by people that are competent with mobile phones and understand innovation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SITH16:
Oh I don't buy their products. I can't however control how my friends spend their money. So, I make money off of them by charging them to get their phones ALMOST as good as mine. =)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Sure you can. Its called peer pressure, aka a baseball bat.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Or taking a picture of your friend victor at Victoria's secret. How is that pink mod coming along? Heh heh.

butter and jelly please...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/258774/taiwan_worries_new_apple_patent_could_target_ultrabooks.html

Looks like Apple has everyone running scared and people are banding together and watching each others back

*Android is upgrading...*