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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
Google said f*** you apple, then every judge clapped and sent apple's patents to hell.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ImSherlocked:
Does the OS version matter at all in these cases? Apple filed a case on Gnex with 4.0. Gnex runs with 4.1 now. Do these kind of details matter at all?

Why would this particular case force Google to change/fix the software? Apple have sued Samsung for software issue they are not responsible for! How come this case is valid at all? :confused:

Samsung could easily argue that they are not responsible for software on Gnex and drag the case till the Gnex becomes obsolete, no? :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JonathanBarca10:
Stupid patent office. There needs to be a seperate office to validate only things for electronics, if such a thing doesnt already exist.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Winesnob:
On JB the user now has to select apps to search. Google kept universal search, but by requiring user intervention to search on the device they have avoided the patent issues. It's an extra step that takes a few seconds with the same overall functionality.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lazyart:
I'm eligible for upgrade in two days. I ordered my G'Nex from Radio Shack over the weekend, who says they will hold and fill the order on my upgrade date.

I've been eyeing this phone for over six months. This is so frustrating! If they don't send it I think I'll just hold on to my Epic 4G until the trial is settled.

Sigh.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ImSherlocked:
Ridiculous...

http://allthingsd.com/20120731/sams...ded-evidence-to-undercut-apples-design-claims
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
It would have been funny to see Judge Koh's face as she was livid at the Samsung legal team.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jesusice:
Which part? That they went public or that they weren't allowed to present it in court? Or the article comments?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ImSherlocked:
this
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Perf_white_gt:
Not really stupid. They had this info all along but failed to enter it during the discovery phase, Samsung kinda screwed the pooch on this one. But we all know that no matter the outcome the "loser" will appeal so its really whatever.

My thoughts is that the evidence shows that they were already working on similar designs, but they should have got it in in time.. no excuse in that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JonathanBarca10:
Theyre going to end up rewriting patent law, or changing the efficiency of the patent office. This is getting out of hand and the only losers are the customers, like always.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] evelxe:
Apple don't understand that

Stealth is copy the source

Using human idea like search contact ,moving finger or multi touch must not be pattern ,its stupid ,is like apple copyright a touchscreen and no one can use touchscreen and tablet form ,stupid and monopoly behind
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jesusice:
Apple has enough cash to make sure that never happens. With 100 billion dollars cash on hand they can bribe every single government employee, judge, and elected official.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tekkdrone:
Nice to see Samsung come out swinging recently. Following the whole thing on groklaw has been interesting at the very least.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
You have a strange definition of "coming out swinging".

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tekkdrone:
It may not have started well, but since then Samsung has been on the attack both in the courtroom, and in the media. Not to say they couldn't put more muscle behind it, but they're not backing down and trying to negotiate a settlement (at least not yet).

Instead of just countering Apple's claims, or arguing their applicability, they're trying to invalidate their claims altogether based on prior art from both Sony and their own IP war chest. If things tilt in Samsung's favor, the case would set some pretty clear precedent, and effectively take the wind out of Apple's sails on the whole matter.

Don't get me wrong, I think the whole thing is a circus, and our patent law is broken. But this could definitely be going worse for Samsung.

-tekkdrone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
For the good of the consumer, I hope it does.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lrs421:
For the good of the consumer, I hope it doesn't.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Exodian:
How could this going worse for Samsung be good for the consumer?

Allowing apple to severely limit our options is the outcome if this goes bad for Samsung. I don't want a iPhone. I want an android powered Samsung phone. Apple wants to take this choice from me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
So that Samsung is forced to make original products that can compete, challenge, etc. the iPhone instead of simply copying Apple's ideas left and right.

Whether or not Samsung is capable of original ideas remains to be seen.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kindred7:
I honestly find this copying argument hilarious. I would like to see it used in court with car companies for gears, speedometers, wheels or TV's for being rectangular and having an LCD screen with a plastic bezel.

The cosmetic things apple is suing for is ridiculous.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hungmung:
Don't feed the troll guys...

Sent via moon rays...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Exodian:
Good point
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zeinzu:
What did they copy again?

Sent from my AOSP Android 4.1.1 Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Their tablets and phones are rectangles. Apple patented the rectangle.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
Most of it is their CheeseWiz software.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Darn those widgets and app drawers copying Apple.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AmericanCon:
Don't forget the notification center. We ripped that right off Apple.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zeinzu:
And Google Now/S Voice. Because voice search and commands haven't been around on Android for years now.

Gosh, Apple is so innovative as of late...

Sent from my AOSP Android 4.1.1 Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jesusice:
The saddest day was when I had to tell my little girl that we just couldn't afford for her to color rectangles anymore. Too risky.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] woldy2:
Right...I had to put a ban on Lego purchases in my house so I didn't have to risk it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] woldy2:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-5...s-galaxy-nexus-a-copycat-of-iphone/?ttag=gpwl

Apple pushing this again....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
They aren't pushing it again. The trial is set for later this year for the GN and they are only providing the documents the court requested.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tomh1979:
Trial is set for March 2014, not later this year.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Garridon:
I'd really like to see what they use at home and work when they aren't in court...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Neomastermind:
In what way, shape or form is Apple falling to pieces? They're performing marvelously. They release a product and it likely becomes a hit.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
What you are seeing there is waning momentum from the late Jobs. This will likely change.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheGratefulDead:
The problem is that ***** judge is from California, Communist douche probably making a fat paycheck

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] frankied22:
Well I am glad I ordered mine a couple days ago and it's already on it way...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] akira02rex:
This supposed ban hasn't even kicked in yet, and probably never will. Google has the best lawyers money can buy and there's always a loophole.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] anton2009:
I saw this on my Facebook feed, and I almost instantly knew XDA would be all over this, lol. But seriously, this patent stuff is ridiculous and I would really like Google to not allow apple to use it's apps on their iProducts. I'd like to see Apple make a new Maps, Youtube and Google Search from scratch!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kurczynski:
They aren't falling to pieces at all but I think they've hit their saturation point and are upset that they can't expand past that. Their whole closed system idea is great for a subset of people but will never expand past that subset. I think they will continue to release hit products like you're talking about but they will only appeal to that Apple crowd.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
Google has nothing to do with this case.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] haydonxda:
It's a Good Thing(tm)

I'm actually pleased with all of the recent hammering of tech companies bloodying up one another recently. It just shows just how screwed up our intellectual property system is.

For a very long time it's been used to block small competitors from entering a market. Now it's causing a huge amount of grief for big players. If the big players are affected there's hope it'll actually change for the better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jesusice:
If Apple destroys Android where will they steal their ideas from?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
Highly unlikely they'll do that. Google doesn't make money from hardware (cf: Nexus 7) but from software (and data collection and ad services). Pulling their product from the Apple ecosystem is like Zynga or Gameloft pulling all their games from Apple and Android and being Blackberry exclusive. Stockholders will be up in arms if Google ever did that

Wow, just wow. If he's a communist, shouldn't he be against corporations? And let people infringe on corparations' patents?

Atari
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kurigowa:
Not really. Apples following the law not breaking it. Big business isn't pretty. Be mad at company's that are using these loop holes to really hurt people. Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eggydrums:
Ugh im so tired of this bs. Apple should stop, really i hope they die. Lol ironic im suing an ipad xD
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pitflyer:
The unified search patent seems so bogus. I'm pretty sure I have been able to search many types of content via one interface for a long time. Google desktop comes to mind but I am sure there was stuff back in windows 2000 or Unix before hand that did the same thing.

Evil company. Makes me want to smash the iPad I have to setup for a brain dead flunkie at work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] haydonxda:
So out of curiosity, when did the law start meaning "moral" or "good"? The law is our creation and we can write whatever laws we want.

Ah, there you go! So on one hand, "hey, it's just the law, that makes it okay" and on the other "the darned law is hurting people, it's bad!".

I don't understand how you could rationalize away the conflict.

If you think this ruling isn't hurting people that's crazy! It certainly is hurting all of us.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
Blame the lobbyists. Congress have been passing laws that benefit corporations at the expense of Joe Public
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ap3604:
So if I don't buy the Galaxy Nexus RIGHT THIS MOMENT then I won't be able to until they come up with a software fix for the unified search patent? :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] welchertc:
Really, now that I think about it, I really don't want Apple to die. I like the fact that their shiny toy keeps the masses of dumb sheep away from Android. Would you really want everybody and their grandma using our phones? Even worse, hipsters? Android as an OS is already better than iOS, so I could care less that iOS still exists. I just want this stupid patent war BS to stop so the innovation of Android and the OEMs can continue unhindered.

I already see some evidence of stupid people switching to Android and trying to root and ROM. Look around at any of the newer devices. More and more of the "I wanna roots, which romz iz best?" And "oops I bricked my phone because Apple used to hold my hand and I didn't have to read instructions, plzzzzzz hold my hand now because I can't read how to unbrick either" posts all over the place. So long as Android stays at the pace things have been going, I'm perfectly fine with iPhones controlling the minds of the millions of sheep like that which would surely be on Android if Apple dies.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] m4ff3w:
I ordered a Galaxy Nexus from the play store today. Hopefully this doesn't mess up my order.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ddemlong:
Apple recently put up 2.6 billion in case they loose the injunction. I hope they loose every cent. Apple is just pissy their crappy ass outdated phone is loosing sales.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
http://m.cnet.com/news/ftc-investigating-google-over-motorola-patents-says-report/57464289

Speaking of Apple being a crybaby..sounds like ftc should investigate Apple for "not sharing"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] painter_:
Windows mobile had the unified search function. When you got a email with a phone number in it, the phone number would be a link that brought up the dialer.

I am glad that Apple invented it. :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] IRIE4IPIER:
I'm selling my GS2 and buying one of these from the play store immediately. **** you Apple you **** suckers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bmg1001:
Let's not all forget that Apple has wayyyy too many people brainwashed to buy their products each year. If Apple had to code their own iOS Apps for example YouTube, isn't YouTube patented by Google? 2012 marks the year of The Patent War. (BTW, I'm going to patent that...not really)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Award Tour:
As a owner of both a Galaxy Nexus and Retina Macbook Pro/iPad 3... I'll keep and enjoy both. LOL. Don't tale it personal, they're companies, not ways of life.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] isinisterx:
Lol screw Apple. This won't do much considering Google will release a new nexus in December that will rape the ip5
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jameslepable:
This makes no sense really. It is double standards. Google gets investigated because it wants products banned that don't pay enough (in there view) for the IP they use. Then apple want an all out ban for software patents. They did not invent searching multiple databases. People have been using it for years whether they knew it or not.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ebagdirtbike:
That's it, my apple products are going on eBay! **** apple tired of your bull****!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Exodian:
From my understanding they are also investigating apple as well so some good for Google may come of it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
I fully agree!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] benson12:
This injunction is kind of funny. It's all about money. Apple makes the most profits in the phone market by a large margin and they just want their share based on patents they've made. Samsung isn't innocent either, they are going after Apple for using 3G technology that they have patents for as well.

Really, I wish that there were set rates for licensing so they could just license the patented technologies when needed.

Another thing. When designing software, how do you know someone has a patent on "slide to unlock" or something like that?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheGratefulDead:
These are the same judges that just gave the constuitonal approval to the healthcare bill haha. Either way its some dirty shady business going on by apple

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tehh4ck3r:
When lawyers fight, nobody wins.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joeski27:
So I'm a little confused here...they are suing because of software-specific infringements, right? So why is Apple looking to cease sales of a piece of hardware? Granted, this happened to be the first piece of hardware that carried Android 4.0, HOWEVER it is now certainly NOT the only piece of hardware out there now that has it.

To me its like this - say I happened to own the patent on the phrase "Siri", and then Apple came out with multiple products that had their Siri-named software (say, the iPhone and the iPad). I'm certainly not going to sue about just the single physical product, I would think I'd be suing the Apple Corporation in general for stealing my idea and using it in multiple products. None of this makes sense to me.

Anyways, looks like Google will be cranking out plenty of Nexus-branded successors in the very near future, which means very soon the GNex will be outdated anyway (or maybe not outdated, for those who already have it), but once the next generation of Nexuses are release people will opt for those and the elimination of the GNex will really be a moot point.

By the way, would be really effing funny if this happened:

http://www.motoringcrunch.com/news/mobile-tech/11117-iphone-ipad-us-ban
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chw2006:
Good thing I ordered mine today. **** Apple.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] username235:
Apple is ridiculous. They should actually start doing something for their own users for once, instead of trying to be even bigger asshats to Google and the Android community

Sent from my VZW Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lrs421:
This is like the 4th reference to the healthcare law I've seen in this thread. Stop trying to link these rulings, they have NOTHING to do with each other. If you don't like the law write a letter to your congressman. This is XDA not meet the press.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheGratefulDead:
Haha sorry

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Protocol 7:
I am in no way religious, but I pray Google stands up and rears it's horns up Apple's ass. They have quite a few patents that can demolish iOS, such as the notification patent. I also wish Samsung would just cut the production of all Apple products. Samsung is practically printing money and would lose a mere 7% of profit if they dropped Apple. I'd do that if I were them just so I can watch Apple cry as it scrambles in search for other manufactures.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Neomastermind:
It's people like you that just make me want to facepalm.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kurczynski:
iberruca

Na even if this does go into action it'll be a while before you feel it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joeski27:
You know one other thing, as this kind of behavior by Apple goes on (and even if they are *technically* in the right for doing it), I think the general public (and by that, I mean the non-techie mass public) is really going to start to get the sense that Apple is getting a reputation for being an overly bullish, ball-busting prick company, no matter how good or popular their products are. I mean I know WE all know that now, but I think even general consumers are going to start to get a whiff of this.

IMO I think Apple is going to have to be very careful here, because if every few months another story pops up about yet another outrageously nit-picky, technicality-laced infringement claim, it would be impossible for them to avoid building such a reputation. It would really start to look like a hockey, football or basketball game where the referees called a foul or penalty every single time two players touched one another, snowballing out of control and directly into a massive PR disaster for Apple.

And to reiterate, the problem is not that Apple is going after these so-called infringements, its that they are going after them just because they can. Its one thing when a music artist from the 70's or 80's goes after a modern artist who blatantly ripped off their riff, melody or lyric; that's the kind of thing that SHOULD be done, and that's the kind of the thing that every member of the public can understand. But what Apple is doing is quite obviously being done not because something was blatantly ripped off, but because they are trying to put a ding in the competition in the only way they know how.

Man, why can't it be like it used to be, where whenever one company put out a product that was a little bit better than yours (even if it WAS similar), you just stepped up your game and put one out that was better than theirs, without all of this ***** suing crap. :mad::silly::eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chw2006:
I love how Apple keeps suing the people who make the chipsets in their most popular product. They have no morals.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ap3604:
What do you mean?

I assumed that once Apple posts the 90+ million dollar bond that the ban immediately goes into effect, which in turn makes sales of the Galaxy Nexus against the law for Samsung and will be met with high fines.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joeski27:
Well this is true; the GTab 10.1 injunction is official now, right? But you can obviously still buy them (currently available on BestBuy.com, for example).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jasonleb1:
...Is this a joke?

And I bought one Wednesday, it's already shipped and gets here tomorrow or Monday :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] derekwilkinson:
I actually hate Apple so much I got rid of my MacBook Pro and got a Samsung Series 9. I used Mac OS for 12 years, but their BS made me boycott them. **** apple.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ccrows:
Apple should put all their eggs into the iTunes basket, since NOBODY will ever care about copying that **** blocking garbage...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Neomastermind:
They don't want to demolish iOS, though. The platform makes them a nice sum of money.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kurczynski:
Oh it's definitely possible, the only reason Apple is doing this whole patent trolling is for business reasons (as many companies do). There's no way that Apple would gather 90+ million dollars anytime soon for an injunction on the GNex strictly for business reasons. They totally have the cash to, it's just a lot of work to do for little to no business payoff.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xxprodigyxx11:
Samsung can't sell any. Best buy or any other store can sell to their hearts content. But when their out of stock then that's the end.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gogol:
"Occupy Apple" ... Lets make some protests ...

This is insane ...

We should change the dictionary ... Apple = sue ...

I will apple your ass = I will sue your ass ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
My question is this...what happens to the ones we already have? To the jellybean update for those that don't have it? Can they legally make Samsung recall our devices?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kevinjgray88:
Sounds like the judge owns apple stock.

I would bet she at least has an iphone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] itsDefying:
I'm considering buying a Galaxy Nexus... If I want it, do I need to get it NOW? Or will this not take effect for a while?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joeski27:
Well any future JB update doesn't come from Samsung, now does it ;) that is strictly a Google thing. An no, they can't take away what has been sold, this is just an injunction for future sales.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gogol:
That means, Google Play Store has no problem selling Galaxy Nexus while it has some stocks, right?

Because the injuction is for Samsung, not Google (Play Store).

But Google cant replenish its stocks if the injunction stay ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
>"Apple has made a clear showing that, in the absence of a preliminary injunction, it is likely to lose substantial market share in the smartphone market and to lose substantial downstream sales of future smartphone purchases and tag-along products," Judge Koh said in Friday's ruling.

Apple:

>HURR IF U DONT DO WAT WE SAY WE LOSE

Judges:

>OH **** WE CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN OH NO

best quote all day on this topic
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JediNinjafication:
I know jellybean is Google but i didn't know if it would put the update on hold or not. I have it already but want sure how that would play out. Thank goodness can't take my phone!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] muyoso:
The only way Google stops selling them on the Play Store is if they have no more in stock. Now if Google was smart they would have a fairly hefty supply of these already purchased from Samsung. The thing is though, that with the news, sales will probably spike and they will be out of stock before long.