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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
I think the biggest thing for me is getting the newest version of android and getting the quickest updates. No sense to slow things down, nor any other manufacturer skin, and the screen is obviously going to be nicer too. Also the rubber back coating and lighter size is a nice added bonus too as the flyer is heavy and slick and when I'm laid back in my recliner using it, it slips out of my hands alot.

That being said once Lisbon is perfected, then the software side disappears. Yeah its a tegra 3 multi core, but our hardware isn't a slouch by any means. We got a fast single core, a gig of ram, and a nice gpu so with the right software the flyer could be just nice. And the screen doesn't suck on the flyer either, all an all its pretty nice.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lekhwani:
I want the chrome browser with all its speed in ICS.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Yeah that's what is annoying about being stuck on honeycomb. Well that and lack of a real launcher alternative. All the phone ones work but they don't display right

In general honeycomb blows. The primary goal I think was just to get a tablet interfaced established so they could integrate it with future versions later. It's the windows vista to windows 7. Has the pretty looks of ics but it's laggy and is missing features that were on gingerbread. I used to be hard on Htc for giving us a bad honeycomb update but now I realize nope honeycomb just sucks period
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] contradude:
I just got my nexus and the biggest thing its got (other than tegra3) is support from Google. I'm tired of locked boot loaders and being shafted by HTC on updates. Honeycomb got a small golf clap from me because it was the least they could do considering we only received two small updates and honeycomb. I've never owned an expensive device that went EOL so fast. I probably won't be back to HTC devices until they stop locking the boot loader and offering the weaksauce HTC Dev partial unlock.

On the other hand, my nexus 7 feels fantastic and my Sprint Galaxy S III is running a fantastic rom and I didn't even have to unlock it. (Sprint techs don't are about odin or flash counts as long as the issues aren't because of it .
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sonus:
So if I'm reading correctly, the main reason you guys are jumping on the nexus is to get rid of lag that you were experienceing on the HTC Flyer?

Honestly I'm just looking for clarity, because I see a lot of people jumping on this bandwagon, and I feel like I may be missing something.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Yeah lag in a nutshell sums it up :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] SinisterModz:
What more clarity do you want, its a NEXUS!

Nexus vs pitching in to get someone to make a Rom for your unsupported device?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Exactly! With a nexus your most likely going to get the fastest device for one thing even though better hardware will come out because your device won't be raped with Sense, Touchwiz, Motoblur, or any other skin, and you know you'll get your updates for at least 2 years, which I'm assuming is probably the cut off as the Nexus One got cut off at 2.3.7. Any other device you have time buy it for what it is and if you want the newest version of android you have to A. Pray your manufacturer plans on updating and expect to wait 6 months to a year, B. Learn how to develop and make one yourself or C. Pray someone makes it for you. What your buying with a nexus is peace of mind :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] contradude:
My view tablet had hardly any lag at all with my custom rom on it. It was the betrayal from HTC that did me in :(. I was 100% in and they wouldn't even give us the small update between hc 3.2 and ICS. Just the ICS update with source would have kept us going through jelly bean easily without more than a little more work on HTC's part
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
It will be about 10 nanoseconds until a host of people are complaining about "laggy Nexus 7" ............ wait for it..... ha there it is.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] contradude:
Lol, I have yet to find any
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
I guess I am in the minority on this but I just read that the nexus tab does not support video out. For me this is a non starter. What is Google doing? No sd support and no video out? I know it is cheap but I can't see how it could ever be my only tablet.

Flyer
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Yeah and I think mhl is a software side thing too. Honestly imo its the nexus q. If they put video out on it than why would else would you buy a $300 roku box? See I never use my flyer for that so it's not a deal breaker for me but you aren't in the minority trust me
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
It really seems Google makes their devices the way they want it, not for the people. When they first released the nexus s without an sd everyone was like "wtf google?" and a year later they did it again. Also isn't it time a nexus device have a better camera? None have surpassed the 5mp mark, of course the 7 doesn't have one at all, which I'm okay with, especially since the flyers camera is kinda meh anyway.

Overall I see how hard our developers are working and we will have a full working jelly bean build on our flyer soon enough. I'm at the point now I'm more concerned about replacing my phone than my tablet. You guys think the flyer is bad, the vivid is a pure headache for developers. HTC has the ril locked by your sim card and being on at&t, some of the best stuff for it I can't even use! I made the mistake of thinking I was going to keep this thing stock *facepalm*. I was going to get the galaxy s2,non lte but a friend of mine convinced me lte was worth it and the lte gs2 was 200, and the vivid with identical hardware was 100. Lte is nothing but a pain, only real purpose is to amaze your friends with speed test

What I failed to realize about my friend is he's on Verizon. It's either their fake 3G stuff or LTE. GSM networks have hspa+ and that's fast enough honestly, when I've been out of lte coverage I've gotten 12 meg down... That the same speed as my home Internet. Why do I need more than that?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lawguy:
I've been pretty impressed with the Nexus 7, at least on the software side.

The hardware is, IMO, pretty cheap feeling, and missing features. I won't go into all that.

Even with its limitations, it is much better than the Flyer is. It is simply much faster and a better experience overall.

The other huge advantage is that Google will SUPPORT it for a few years. I don't think that I'll buy a non-Nexus device in the future. The OEMs seem to believe that there is no benefit to supporting their devices after they are sold.

There is also a crazy amount of developer activity already and there will surely be more in the future.

I kind of hope that Google exerts more control over Android so that so many Android users are not left behind.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cor-master:
Same here I'm only buying nexuses from now on
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Chaosz-X:
I hope to get one soon as well to develop for N7 as well (Flyer won't be left behind, devving will go on ;) ), but atm I'm broke and another 150$ to go to get one (they're 250 euros in The Netherlands, about 290$ I think) :(
[HTC Rezound] GMFreak8:
I recently upgraded to a Rezound before the family share data plans came around to keep my unlimited.

First thing I did when I got the phone was to install the latest ICS RUU, unlocked via htcdev, s-off and ra recovery. For the ROM I used business sense ics. Started on 5.4 and upgraded to 5.5. I'm using the stock kernel bundled with the ROM. It's running awesome. Only problem I have is the battery charging.

I have the OEM HTC 2750 ma extended 3.7v battery. The charging is extremely slow. It took the phone almost twelve hours to go from dead to "charged". I've read a few issues regarding this, but nothing that looks like it matches my issue.

Using battery monitor I checked the ma when charging and it seems to be charging at a slower pace than via even USB. It ranges anywhere from 175ma to 400ma with occasional jumps to 800ma and even the occasional dip into negative ma even with the charger connected. According to the app it seems to stall at 98% charged with a charge of 2692 mAH of 2720 mAh. I've tried the stock charger that came with it, an igo charger, an lg charger. Just about every charger I could think of. Even the 2.1 amp chargers.

Anyway, I'm at a loss. I love the phone, I just hate the fact that I have to basically be tethered to a charger for 12 hours to get a charge that only goes to 98%. Any ideas or explanations of to why this is happening. I checked the battery threads here, but like I said or doesn't really match my setup. I appreciate any input.
[HTC Rezound] con247:
I know you have tried different wall plugs but have you tried different cables?

It is possible you might have got a lemon.
[HTC Rezound] GMFreak8:
Yeah, I've tried a few different cables, even tried bump charging like I did with my old incredible. When you say lemon, do you mean the battery or the phone itself? everything is working so well except for the charging.
[HTC Rezound] con247:
Does the normal battery charge at a normal milli amp rate or do they both charge slowly? Also, how hot is the phone when it is charging slowly? The phone might be getting too hot and slowing the charge down to reduce heat
[HTC Rezound] GMFreak8:
Honestly, I haven't actually used the stock battery. I'm not at home now, but when I can I will switch batteries and let you know what happens.

The temp is usually in the low 90s when charging. It actually increases during use. Right now, discharging the temp is at 107 and seems to be climbing.
[HTC Rezound] con247:
Try the stock battery. We need to narrow it down to a phone or battery problem.
[HTC Rezound] Proz00:
install current widget

tell us what the mah charging rate

check ur cable might damage or fake
[HTC Rezound] GMFreak8:
So I ran down my battery until the phone shut off today. While I was waiting I wiped the battery stats five times. I'm currently charging the phone now and it's charging much faster. The ma when charging now is up where it should be. Ranging anywhere from 500 when I'm using the phone to over 1000 when I leave the phone alone. I don't want to speak to soon but maybe everything worked itself out. I got about six hours of use out of the battery, and that was with the screen on over 90% of the time. Not bad. I'll report back after a few charge and discharge cycles.
[HTC Rezound] mike.s:
Settings/Power/Battery Status. With the OEM charger and cable, it should say "Charging (AC)." If it says "Charging (USB)," there's a problem, with charger, cable, the jack on your phone, or the firmware you're running.
[HTC EVO 3D] shonmac11:
What is one of the best Sense 4 ROMs for the EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] coal686:
CDMA or GSM?

Sent from my ICS 3VO with Tapatalk 2
[HTC EVO 3D] ROM CH3F:
cdma

i would say viruses pkmn rom its at infectedrom.com great rom
[HTC EVO 3D] shonmac11:
CDMA
[HTC EVO 3D] coal686:
I was on Tapatalk when I asked and could not see the Sprint logo. I think that Newt's is good.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1620318
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gameSTICKER:
Can some dev tell us which files to modify/replace to enable XLound on FXP CM9? I tried searching the forum but no info on this. I'm posting as a separate thread as I hope this info will benefit others as well.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gameSTICKER:
Mods, kindly delete. For Mini, posted in wrong forum :(
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zaveee:
actually i have nAa 12, how do i flash alfs v8, i have to flash stock kernel and 2.1 eclair before i flash alfs?

Sorry for my horrible english:)
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chris95X8:
No, just flash it like you did with nAa's. Just make sure your ROM is compatible with Alfs.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackRabbit1703:
As usual nAa compatible with miniCM..

And I had flashed nAa 12 on my x8 last night... :):):)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] azcledel:
So just recently I've started getting a sign in error from google. There's a triangle icon in my notifications and if I click on it it says "you have entered the wrong password or your account has changed" I havnt changed my password at all and it still works for my gmail youtube and g+ so idk what this is for but even if I enter my password it says the same thing and the caution triangle won't go away
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
I was getting that this morning, so perhaps it's a server thing? By any chance, did you swap your sim card from one phone to another? I believe that is when I had the issue come up, but not positive
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] azcledel:
Nope I've had the same sim since I got the phone
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Ah ok, maybe it was just a passing servor error then. Did yours go away? Somehow I rebooted or something and haven't seen the issue since.

Edit: I spoke too soon, just got the error again, and I'm on my G2, not my SK. Hoped we're not being hacked or something lol
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] quark_star:
Had the same thing on my Desire HD twice over the last two days. The message won't clear if I enter the correct password, so I have to just clear the notification. All Google apps seem to be working fine. I haven't made any changes recently, besides app updates. Server issue?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Everyone having this issue, did you all install the update to Google Plus the other day? From this thread, people are getting the idea that it may be that app doing this.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1739757
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] quark_star:
I probably did. If that is the cause then there is another update in the play store for G+ dated 30/06, which may provide a fix.
[Nexus Q General] NinJustin:
I've been thinking about it and when you look at it the price may be a decent. Yeah an Apple TV is only $99 compaired to the $299 that the Nexus Q is. While on the other side of the coin The Nexus 7 is $199 to the $499 that a new iPad is. If you want a whole Apple vs Google ecosystem in your house the Google system is actually slightly cheeper when you look at it like this.

(Of course you still have the older iPads that are $399 but that's for an old device and we all know how Apple people feel about having the 'new' thing)

I'm not even going to go into the cost differences between iPhones and Android phones. But just for a Google or Apple brand tablet and tv device It's about equal to probably being in Androids favor just looking at it quickly.

The Nexus Q also has features that you don't get in an Apple TV but instead you'd have to purchase a Sonos device. Those can be more pricey Than the Q.

I don't know the specs on them exactly or even all their options but I do know they are expensive enough that I would never consider them as they kinda just do the one thing.

The amp feature in the device was deffinatly strange to me at first. Especially with it only being a 2.0 system. $300 for just a stereo is to much.

So I really need my own sound system for suround sound to my home theater. That's cool it has an easy connection but then the amp is worthless. But if I wanted to buy a second and play music around my whole house or put put it with my secondary tv the smaller one that I don't care about surround sound with then the amp thing is acutaly pretty nice.

I'm not trying to push anyone and I doubt I'll buy one (at least right away) as I have a Roku, and a couple HTPCs doing different things. I gave my boxee to my parents. There are lots of options out there.

If I ever wanted to wire up my whole house for audio as well as connecting my tvs a couple Nexus Q's costing about $600 doesn't sound like to bad of an option.
[Nexus Q General] Mike Lowrey:
The problem is not the price in general but the features which cause this price.

Me and many other people don't need an integrated amp... If they would sell a version without the amp i'm quite sure it could be better priced ( i'm certainly interested in paying more to support the fact that it's build in the usa although i'm not from the us myself).
[Nexus Q General] hhhealthy:
I'm actually having the opposite concern than most people apparently. I don't have a stereo or surround system, so i would absolutely use the amp. Only trouble is, i also want an audio passthrough so i can pipe my xbox audio through there too. i wish the optical out was an optical in.
[Nexus Q General] digital_pro:
I have one and have been playing with it. As far as the amp, I hooked it up to a pair of pretty good Cambridge Soundworks bookshelf speakers and it sounds quite good -- but like most people I already have a 5.1 surround system for my main stereo, so this would need to be for another room if the amp was going to be useful.

I don't think most people have a pair of regular-wire speakers laying around, so I'd really like to see it have a 3.5mm jack for the more common small, powered speakers. As others have said, it also needs to play local & other network content (Netflix, Hulu, Vudu, ...) before I could see it taking off.

Definitely a cool design though!
[Nexus Q General] Zurginator:
My question would be if you hook up it's own speaker system, AND an optical system, could you get it so that you get the same room choice option when you choose music to play? (AKA use each of the speaker systems in a different room).
[Nexus Q General] WiredPirate:
I love the Google ecosystem and I love the design of the Q, but the price is too high. period. No logic of iEco vs. NexEco is a sound justification (no pun intended). Google missed the mark here big time. If they would have hit the $99 price point that it should be at, I would buy 3: media room, bedroom, and bathroom. At this price point, I buy 0. When it comes down to $99 in 12/mo I may buy it.
[Nexus Q General] gossipninja:
Google needs to add the Q functionality to these new low cost google tv boxes like the Co-star. This will speed up adoption and new use cases.

The capabilities of the Q could be the best thing ever, but if you never see anyone use one, you will never buy one. By having Google Music /Movie Party something that anyone can realistically use with commodity hardware, more people will buy into the PLAY ecosystem.

The Q should be the audiophile product, and make a cheaper Q to use like a Sonos Bridge so people like me will buy one for every room in their house that hook up to 3.5mm speakers.

If nothing else, I hope the Dev community figures out how to use Q style functionality on just tablets and phones, that way I can take me box of old android phones, hook up computer speakers, connect them to my wifi, and have multiroom , multi zone audio.
[Nexus Q General] geekingreen:
Pricey!

Yeah I agree on the price being a little bit high. Yes it does come with a bunch of features, but in my opinion, who needs a built in amp? I want to pump this bad boy into my surround sound unit. I mean Apple TV is only $99 and it has some killer features, minus the built in amp. I guess I'll have to see one in action to see if it is actually worth it.
[Nexus Q General] hotleadsingerguy:
To me it's just that you don't get enough for the price. I'm not opposed to spending $300 for a device that can handle multimedia in a great way but the Q, as it stands, does nothing respective of a $300 device. Sure, the AppleTV is fairly limited considering it's $100 price tag...but there are plenty of other options out there. Boxee, WDLive, Roku, etc... all cost *significantly* less than the Q and offer far more functionality.

In the future, this device could be worth the cost...but at the present moment that's just not true. If we had the ability to "Airplay" it might be different...but as it stands very few people could even make use of the *existing* features of the device. When people come over and want to stream stuff to the device I can't expect them to only stream from Google servers...very few people actually *HAVE* anything on the Google servers.
[Nexus Q General] Fusion777:
Made in the USA. Our labor costs a lot more :)

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus Q General] sirius b:
Exactly. Everyone complains about **** made in China, and says "make it here, bring manufacturing back to America!" Well here is your Made in America price tag. When I get a chance I will buy to support the fact it is made here.
[Nexus Q General] arsmithsr:
Not actually true. There have been recent reports where with shipping and rising laboe costs in China where it is getting to be cheaper and more practical to make it back here in the USA. So the making it here is not the reason for the increased price. I do beleive that they are trying to push a Google dominated thing based on Apple. But I believe that will back fire on them as that is the kind of thing we dilike about Apple. It looks to me like they want you to buy both the Q and the Nexus and be tied to the Google lay store this is why they aren't offering other choices like Hulu and Netflix however they do seem to be allowing the other Dev's out there to supliment that on thier own so they won't block someone figuring out how to stream Netflix or Hulu but they aren't going to help either.
[Nexus Q General] GrandMstrBud:
I have all 3 devices. I think the Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus are priced very reasonable and cheap in my opinion. The Nexus Q though is way over prices. I have an apple TV (only apply product) and it's much better when jailbroken of course. The Q I get google movies, youtube, and the option to listen to music. Not worth 300 dollars but if it had the full android interface with a remote then yes for sure it would be a great device to surf the web and play games on and watch all kinds of movies.
[Nexus Q General] Pitnefor:
amp is gay to me. anybody buying speakers today should be active speakers. Unless they are huge home theather then you buy a discrete amp and use pre-outs on your AVR. You could buy active large home theater speakers but they are rare and more expensive

"bookshelf" speakers need to have their own amp. the speakers were engineered to work with the amp and not some random amp in a nexus Q. amp would only be nice for head phones

any speaker that could be powered by 25 amps is going to have it's own amp in it most likely unless they are some ****ty computer speakers
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJEclipse:
Ok,

I took my phone back to complete stock last night using odin, this morning I wanted to update the phone so my kiddo could get the new market, after downloading kies and running the update the phone will not turn on at all. it does not show when I connect a charger and I cant get it to go into download mode. Any suggestions or is this phone now done?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJEclipse:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=848737

I Tried this and it didn't work. I really believe my phone is completely dead!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
So there is no sign of life at all? No leds or any backlight behind the screen? If not, then you are hardbricked. Kies is notorious for hardbricking phones.

You can call your carrier or Samsung and tell them your phone was bricked using THEIR software and see where that goes.

Sorry for your loss.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJEclipse:
Nothing at all idk what they will say since I've had the phone since brand new
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJEclipse:
I'm on the phone with Samsung now let's see what they say
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJEclipse:
They are going to fix it for free!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazexr7:
I had the exact problem you did. Tmobile sent me a replacement, and now I have a phone with no scratches or dings! :victory:
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJEclipse:
Well I've had mine since the day it came out, it it's out of warranty so t-mobile won't cover it, Samsung was not going to cover it at first but after it was said and done they decided to cover it since it was there software that bricked my phone
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DinoSoup:
This happened to me awhile back! I called T-Mobile, but as I was out of warranty, no phone could be sent! Wish I would've seen this thread before I tossed it... :rolleyes: