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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bobpantsspongesquare:
Seriously?

GSIII

GSII

Twice the RAM, can handle an SD card twice the size of the S2, the screen is almost a half inch larger, the screen resolution is higher by a long shot (1280x720 vs 800x400) and a larger battery. I'd say the dual-core processor is a non-issue. Aside from benchmarks, you won't be pushing either of these phones enough to truly take advantage of those two cores let alone two more.

Edit: Forgot to mention, the processor is the next gen Snap Dragon S4 whereas the GS2 has the Snap Dragon S3 processor. Newer tech, better use of what it has.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] rymanh:
I agree.. I mean our phone kicks ass. But there is not doubt that the S3 is better

I like my Roms the way I like my women..... Clean and smooth
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] fatboy547:
What's also great about the s3 is how they are identical wit all us variants. The body is the same with all s3 models. Which means development is merged with Sprint atnt n Verizon. Then you have accessories that fit all models which means more to pick from.just overall a better phone not just spec wise.

My wife still had the s2 which is why I'll be on both forums but I feel there is more potential with s3
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PikkonX:
I got to play around with my coworker's S3 throughout the day and I cannot believe how smooth the UI is. I was amazed with everything. So many temptations...$349 GNex, SGS3, and of course the upcoming Nexus phone(s)...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Towle:
The s3 does have better hardware, but with the software available, you will notice very little, if any difference in anything you will use your phone for. You could have 8 cores, it's not going to make your phone do anything noticeably better than the s2 or gnex. I think until we get the software to utilize all the cores, the only things that really matter right now are better camera/battery/screen..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] iwasblown:
Yea but two threads is two threads no matter which way you put it. Two core two thread processor.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] iwasblown:
try being hard on the phone. Use WiFi to download a torrent, then use the phone for a call first, then try other things like a record call feature and then web browse and use audio streaming and see how it will work. It won't be very differently from the our s2.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jtroye32:
You forgot to mention the dual core s3 smokes every other phone in benchmarks, including the quad core s3.. The new cpu is a beast.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bkaltec:
I went to t-mobile today to see the phone in person.

First impressions were less than exciting. Even though the resolution is far better, its pixel arrangement makes it look grainy. Ours seems just as sharp from normal hand held position. Also, even though its much faster, ours keeps up with all the current software and games.

On our S2, GTA 3 runs smooth with resolution on high and draw distance about 1/3 (everything else maxed). The S3 could probably handle full resolution and distance, although thats quite a bit more screen space to fill...

I would appreciate a wider variety of accessories and rom options, however ill definatly wait until its cheaper, or see whats next.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
Zomg you fools. The s4 krait CPU in the s3 demolishes EVERY SoC out except the quad core exynos. Stop comparing the s4 to the s3 in our phones just because its dual core. Put it this way. The s3 in our phone is the Intel core2duo. The s4 is the Intel core i3. Both dual core but the i3, because of revamped architecture and smaller manufacturing process completely destroys the core2duo. Actually it also out performs core2quads. Cores and MHz don't make the end product. Look up benchmarks and you'll see the s4 has almost twice the performance of any dual core SoC out. Even beats tegra 3...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] corwest:
The s3 has a PenTile display. Pentile = poop. And as far as the processor goes yes is very nice but I think that hardware has gotten to kind of a plateau in that even with the new quad cores out there the performance jump is minimal at best from ours. My Tegra 3 tablet runs ICS equally as well as my Snapdragon S3 and can't tell the difference.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tomasitoc:
I think I will wait for the tmobile galaxy note instead
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
People go overboard with the pentile thing. My epic 4g had a pentile screen. I did notice a difference between that screen and this one but it isn't a deal breaker. A pentile screen at a 720p Res on a 5 inch screen wouldnt noticeable whatsoever. The difference was minimal at 480p. I doubt you'd be able to tell a difference at a high res like that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] scuzzbag87:
Edit: Already saw benchmarks of both the international one and the u.s. version and exynos wins in benchmarks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=SSicyj9hbwc
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Teo032:
it won't be very different on the international S3 either because our OS doesn't even utilize all 4 cores correctly..... and wouldn't 2gb ram be better for multitasking given that the OS optimizes with the utilization of 2 cores.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] iwasblown:
It might eat up numbers and crunch in more numbers per second but it can't do more things at once than its supposed to. The Intel i3 is a dual core but it's limited to two threads I think and if that use the case do is the core duo. Even though numbers might be able to conceive at the right time if the processes were not stream independent, important things like talking recording downloading streaming and torrent cannot be done any better with a resume boost.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] AznDud333:
guys, he;s not entirely wrong.. the s3 processor is only about 30% faster..and better phones are coming with better quad core processors(such as apq8064 with adreno 320, exynos 5250) which will all have native hspa+ and lte support..why opt for the us variant S3 is way beyond me..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
people would want to pay another 600 even if it was just a 5% boost.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] drzplaya1121:
After the galaxy line I'm sticking with the nexus. This is wack to have such great hardware and outdated software with bloat
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] xxKamikazexx:
+1

Never again will I buy a phone that's not up to par in development.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] AznDud333:
you're missing the point, the point is that within 4 months we'll get something that can almost double what we have right now..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sparkie6point0:
Actually, I'm torn between the S2 and S3. From what I've read (even on the T-Mo website) both phones essentially run the same processor, but I've heard different things said,.both good and bad, about the screen. I've read countless reviews and hands-on comparisons, but I'm still torn. What do the Devs on here think about both phones?

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sparkie6point0:
I agree. If we got the same processor that the international version has it would be a completely different story. But, we didn't, so I'll just sit back with my S2 I'm getting this weekend and wait for T-Mo to convert to lte and see what's out there then.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PJcastaldo:
The processor on the SGS3 is not the same as what we have in our phone. It is the next generation of Snapdragon and is mile and miles ahead of what's in our phone. Not to mention twice the ram.. as for the screen being a pentile.. uhh.. it's a fully HD almost five inch beauty!

If you don't believe this is a major step then your dense.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Rickshaw513:
While the gsIII is definitely a step up I don't see any real reason to upgrade from a gsII to a gsIII. Good as of right now there will be very little difference in performance of most users. I however if tdj made an awesome rom for the gsIII I might be tempted to switch.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Troyis:
Hardware is pretty irrelevant these days. Look at how they are marketing the new Google tablet. Go to Google's page for the Nexus 7 and you won't even see all the hardware specs listed there. They are changing the marketing scheme of phones from listing hardware to listing the features.

Many people in the industry are pushing for a move away from updated tech in between models to updated features all the time. This will probably also occur with computers at some point too, at least in the mainstream market.

More so with phones though, we aren't seeing any tangible differences between handsets in terms of operation anymore. I'm keeping my S2 for awhile. There is just no point to upgrading. :victory::laugh:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PJcastaldo:
This is an entire thread for justifying not upgrading by making it out to not be a massive upgrade. Because it is a huge one.

Not hating on anyone .. I personally will wait for them to offer a buy one get one free promo.. but there's no need to justify your selves.

Bottom line is every aspect of the SGS 3 is an upgrade to what we have now..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] corwest:
This is a discussion thread. People are discussing things. If there was nothing to discuss then the thread wouldn't be here. Just chill and let people debate.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
But he's right. Half these people have technical inferiority complex. Just look at the amount of comments stating the s4 is the same as the s3 cuz its dual core.. you can't debate when you're misinformed.

The truth is the s3 in this phone is slow. The slowest of the dual cores. Even over locked it has trouble achieving what dual core exynos gets done. Clock for clock its the slowest dual core SoC out. Although this all changed with the s4. That chip is amazing hands down and I'd take it over he exynos quad in a heartbeat. Same reason people choose dual core i3 cpus over quad and even hex core amd cpus. The quad exynos is just 2 dual core exynos chips slapped together. Not that that's a bad thing but when you look at what an SoCs performance is capable of the LAST thing that ever matters is clock speed. Architecture is everything and the s4 is way ahead of quad exynos in those terms. Just wait and see what the quad s4 is capable of..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] manekineko:
Our S2 actually supports the 64GB SDXC cards fine as well. allgamer has a thread about it in accessories.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
Your missing the point. If something new comes out they will just drop another 600 on that. These things are status symbols for some to the benefit of manufacturers.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sparkie6point0:
PJ, T-Mobile's site even states that the SGS3 has a dual-core 1.5 snapdragon processor (next gen), which, to me, is not that big of a deal - to me, it's almost the same as an SGS2. The quad core is on the international version only.

IMO what really makes the SGS3 faster is the chipset and the 2GB ram. Despite the pentile (sucky) picture, if the SGS3 had the quad core I would have gotten it and paid the $370.00 to upgrade. At the T-Mo store I was at to get my SGS2, the clerk said that she had already had to deal with at least 4 people bringing back their SGS3's and exchanging them for various reasons, mostly overheating issues and/or screen-related issues.

I agree with you though on the concept that the SGS3 is a big step forward, but IMO it's not that big of a step to justify paying almost $400.00 for the privilege. Pretty soon T-Mo is going LTE anyway, so all of this won't really matter much once that happens. Sure, they'll also keep their current 4G HSPA going, but neither SGS2 nor SGS3 is going to go LTE - by then, maybe the sammy quad cores will start hitting their stores.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Troyis:
I see how it is faster in technical terms as I'm sure many other people do too.

However, how the hell does it matter in every day use? I don't even see my S2 slow down on ANY application ever.

There is a noticeable difference in computer hardware when you go from video card to another in gaming. Frame rates jump up and often it is leaps and bounds ahead of the previous tech. There is just not enough REAL WORLD difference for me to go and buy the newer phone. I don't notice the difference myself and other people don't care what phone I have, so what is the point? :confused:

If you're coming from a BB or an older phone, then yeah, you might as well upgrade to the newest handset. If I don't see any real usage differences though, I'm not going to bother with upgrading.

I wonder. Do you all go out and get the newest model year of car every single year? :eek:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PJcastaldo:
Not to be mean but your obviously not paying any attention ...

Yes I know the SGS 3 were getting is a dual core.

But it is the S4 Snapdragon krait processor. It is based on newer chip architecture than any other soc even the quad core. In Bench testing it scores very close to the quadcore variant and leagues and leagues above the S3 chip in our current SGS 2. So this = massive upgrade.

Not to mention the new chip also has some of the best power saving features available.

Many people argue the S4 krait is infact a better setup than the exynos quad for all kinds of reasons.. but grain of salt with that..

The other points about people returning them for various reasons .. honestly this phone we have has a very high exchange rate as well. Including big screen defects .. and yes overheating.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] iwasblown:
Well four cores means for streams or threads consistently, while dual is going to be two. Unless you want to do four things at once there is nothing to complain about.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Pandemic187:
That's because it's PenTile (S2's screen is not).

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Bingo! To each his own, but I have debt to worry about. :D

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But the problem is...six months from now you'll be saying the EXACT SAME thing, except the S3 will take the place of the S2. I don't know if you are made of money, but I'm not.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] rymanh:
The S3 looks great but I'm most likely going to skip that generation unless something happens to my T989.

I like my Roms the way I like my women..... Clean and smooth
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PJcastaldo:
No. The difference is when our S2 came out it's processor was already dated and could be found in several previous devices. However the new S4 is pretty new tech, I think the only other phone with it is the One S currently and has more potential than the exynos IMO..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Pandemic187:
Doesn't really matter. No matter what your device will no longer be the best in 2-3 months. Sometimes content is a virtue.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] postmankeyes:
Yes the s3 would be nice but here are just a few things that bug me. Why would I go get this phone when the note is rumored to come out on 7/11. And yes here in Wisconsin we getting a taste of the new +42 network but next year tmo flipping the switch on there LTE network which if IM not mistaken neither are compatable with.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] corwest:
That may be true. Better wait for the SGSIV. I like to skip phone generations when I upgrade because then I feel I get a better bang for my buck and can actually see the improvements better
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] pb3000:
well i was going to get it, until i saw this http://www.intomobile.com/2012/06/2...-core-processor-2-gb-ram-4g-lte-and-even-dmb/

i rather buy the korean version if its compatible with the bands here, or wait either for the sgs4 or next nexus which is said out in november
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] nighthawk1991:
what do you think about broken screens in the s3???

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] TerrorCandii:
That's funny, because I benched my Tegra 3 TF300T, and my S3. Though I love my new S3 over my S2, my Tegra 3 still benched higher. Where were you getting your info from? For those knocking the S3, please save up the money, and just buy one....we all know that's why you're downing it, Lol.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Rekzer:
Im skipping the upgrade for 2 reasos

1.) There isnt anything my phone cant handle

2.) Telus raised their rates, if i uprade, new contract, +$10 a month.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
What benchmark did you use? If its a multi core enabled benchmark then there's your answer. Clock for clock the s4 beats tegra 3. Not my opinion. Google it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Sicily1918:
Mine certainly does. Only difference is the S3 understands the exFAT format and S2 does not (I had to reformat my 64GB SD down to FAT32).

This begs the question of why our phones can't read extents (ext2/3)... I mean, it's only the default file system for Linux and I think there's something about Android and Linux? :rolleyes:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] TerrorCandii:
Every device responds differently depending on what your running, and how your setup is. Not my opinion, Google it. On four different benchmarks, my Tegra 3 is right where it needs to be. Owning an ASUS TF300T, SGS2, and SGS3, I am not arguing with you....just pointing out my results. Understandably you disagree, to each his own. A more friendly respond could have sufficed. XDA is to help others, not argue over who has bigger b*lls, and who is wrong or right. Own all three, I love all my devices, and honestly could care less which one has the biggest b*lls. They all run amazing, and am proud to enjoy all with mods. Good sir, I mean no insult, an apologize if I offended you. I love being a part of this community, and continue to enjoy dev's amazing work here. Apologize to mods for off topic ramblings.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] benefit14snake:
The cpu in this phone is BEAST. It destroys the omap 4 series and in alot of ways destroys my tegra 3. Yes, tegra 3 has more theoretical number crunching power but they also suffer from alot of IO problems. Krait @ 1.9ghz > tegra 3 @ 1.8ghz. The entire system is smooth where as with tegra three it comes to a screatching halt while updating apps or downloading a torrent.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Diekrupt:
I went in and checked out the s3 today and it is a beauty. Its not any wider just a little bit taller, fits great in hand the new curved edges are nice. I'm running darkside ics and underclocked at 1.3, antutu hits 6200, stock g3 ran 5800. It was very smoothe and fluid even though lower score but its not worth $620 over a g2 imho. Maybe the bigger battery may be the only reason but otherwise it wasn't that much faster not that much of a bigger screen to justify $620 bucks if one already has a rommed g2. My 2 cents.

Sent from the Darkside
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] JSC209:
The deal breaker for me is T-Mobile did not make the sgs3 lte compatible, knowing they will eventually be going that route. I am going to wait a while to see what they come out with next. Every review Ive read on the phone states its not much of an upgrade and not worth spending $600 for it. Just my two cents...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] TerrorCandii:
It looks pretty, and feels nice in my hands. I'm getting one, but keeping my S2 for a backup phone. I'm tired of spec blah, blah, blah. Everyone has an answer. You want one or you don't....there is no real discussion here gentlemen/ladies. Everyone has different opinions, which turns into arguments. Relax, and just buy what you want. Ta Duh!!! Lol......just trying to move this along. Don't mind me. °^_^°
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] aranurea:
Thats exactly why Sammy used PenTile. At such high resolutions the pentile screen is almost surperior to some other screens.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] EpicPie:
Well said using layman's terms.

People fail to understand that the S4 CPU has a newer architecture making it perform better than the S3 CPU in our T989's.

Sent from my SGH-T989.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PJcastaldo:
LTE is.more than a year away ..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] iwasblown:
Lets not be so social on here and be more particular about technology. one thing I don't like is the fact that the first galaxy s was the biggest thing, and the rest were kind of, eh. My main goal is to have a good supported phone like the gphone nexus. it seems google us raising the bar every time with every phone which the have been issuing. when it comes to the s2 and s3, the international is better, so I'll have opt out for a google phone nexus or whichever name they will use. I'm sure the value us much higher than a samsung phone any day.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Sicily1918:
Isn't HSPA+42 going to be pretty much on par with LTE in terms of [realistic] speeds?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Pandemic187:
I think that (gasp!) some people may actually use their phones for more than a year!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] JSC209:
Well, the way it was explained to me was like this, "HSPA+42 is the tip of the mountain with 3G technology, and LTE is the foundation for a new 4G mountain." So if it's true HSPA+42 is "on par" with LTE like you stated, it won't for long...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] iwasblown:
Lte its a baller status for carriers, how much school the charge for it I wonder.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Whitehawkx:
Unfortunately the Note is just old at this point. If it was the Note 2 I might agree with you. How long has the international Note been out? How long has the ATT Note been out? And TMO is just now getting it?

It's nice, but I'll be shocked if it supports the 1700 band.

LTE is still a long ways away. Sure you get 30mb download speeds but your battery will be dead in ~6 hours. I'd personally rather have a phone that lasts all day. Plus when I do speed tests (Seattle) I average 20-22mb download. That's pretty badass if you ask me.

Yes it is. :)

Haha yea most ppl will. I on the other hand upgrade phones about ~6 months. I bet I sell the SGS3 before the 1900 frequency refactor is finished and well before LTE launches.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] scuzzbag87:
People wanting lte on tmobile shut the **** up u dont know ****. Dumb @sses think they need it, go to another carrier if its so important, the rest of the world doesn't care about it only dumbasses that's why there not using it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] iwasblown:
Lets not make this a social scene, this is a tech group. Not a money our social scene.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
YUMAD BRO??? Lulz
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] scuzzbag87:
Lol no I just think its retarded when people say that no lte is a deal breaker -__- I mean come on that's ridiculous. Hspa42 is good enough idk why people need lte

Sent from my SGH-T989
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] IRIE4IPIER:
+1 I feel you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
No you're right lol none of us even get close to 20mbits even in the best signal areas. Just hilarious to see some lte rage lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] JSC209:
That was my opinion on why I will not be upgrading to the s3. This is a discussion forum, is it not??? Apparently, we can not have an intelligent conversation with certain people......everything I've been reading states T-Mobile is headed that direction, even if it does take a year or more for them to do it. Again that was MY opinion, I didn't think anyone would get offended over it. It ain't that serious.....