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[Nexus 7 General] NonovUrbizniz:
This is pretty close to accurate, however they can technically print the labels and not send the notification to UPS/FedEx, and as I posted above I've had no updates over the weekend for both carriers on an item that shipped late Friday and then Monday morning there were multiple updates up to and including the item being on the truck for delivery. There is a lot more wiggle room in shipping than you think. 2 Days is often done in 1 because logistically it's cheaper to throw it on an overnight plane from one coast to another, then the local dist. center sends it out sat. to the truck depot, monday it goes on the truck and out for delivery early... The driver at that point can still skip you...

It's happened to me twice. I had "out on truck for delivery" on friday and didn't get my **** till monday because the driver didn't feel like going by my place... and the terms of delivery were 5-7 days... they just got it early...

Another time I actually convinced the truck dist. lady to call the driver on his cell and arrange a meeting place after he had updated the status as attempted delivery when he never did. No note on door I was home all morning, set my alarm waiting for speakers.... me him on his route and picked them up, guy basically admitted he skipped it cuz it was Saturday and it was a long walk with heavy speakers and he had till Monday since he could... wanted to get home and spend time with his family.

And I accomplished this by being NICE, not being demanding and complaining. They were within their rights per our contract to do what they did... for ANY reason, even a lazy driver who wanted to go home... So I begged and offered solutions that would not impact them negatively. The secretary had a heart and so did the driver so it worked, but if it didn't they didn't do anything "wrong". They just would have sucked which is allowed.

Other times the item had not been picked up by UPS/FedEx and didn't get picked up till Monday at which point the clock started ticking on the delivery "guarantee"

For all the people thinking throwing temper tantrums to a phone rep with no power is going to help:

Try changing the terms of your purchase agreement with Google or whatever other retailer and see how it goes for you... if you do get them to agree then you can start complaining... because frankly NO ONE has shown so much as a shred of evidence that Google has done ANYTHING contrary to what YOU agreed to when you clicked "buy"

Lighten up people it's a toy for fat spoiled 1st world grown up manchildren...

Slave children are forced to harvest cocoa beans so we can eat chocolate, this thing was prob. made by what we would consider slave labor... slow shipping isn't such a big problem.
[Nexus 7 General] gomorrah:
Just go buy one if you can. I was so disappointed in myself when I realized I had gotten so worked up over a device. I ordered mine 7 minutes after the Play Store page went live. I have been charged but have no shipping info. I was seething that people were getting it before me. I was questioning my devotion to the Nexus line. Google had screwed me over in my mind. So I went out and bought one. After having it for the day I realize it is worth the wait. Now I have to deal with shipping it back and refunds and money tied up and all the other B.S. I almost wish I had just waited. But it is worth it. When you get your N7 you will forget about all the drama. I wish you all the best. I love this freakin thing.
[Nexus 7 General] vevmesteren:
Welling am leaving Montreal for two weeks. Without a tablet. Without an email. But

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[Nexus 7 General] jeff94:
I'm an American and ordered the 8GB + case 6/27. My card was pre-auth'd on that date, still no final charge or shipping e-mail. Called American Express to see if it was declined (I changed card #s) and they saw the pre-auth was approved but not the final charge.
[Nexus 7 General] dockinj:
I am jealous for several reasons. Dallas, Georgia here. Ordered 27th and I have no indication that Google knows I exist! So you got your email, you have a pic of M3 in your profile so I assume you have one, again I am jealous. Have you seen this BWM Commercial? I had to watch it twice it ROOOOCKS! I have a 325, but want a M5 next for sure! But I digress.

Peace!
[Nexus 7 General] vevmesteren:
I am signing off whoa thread. Leaving Montreal for two weeks. Ordered during the keynote. No email. No charge. No tablet.

Guess a non connected holiday will be good for me. So in the end this is better for all. My wife and kids in particular.

Hopefully I will have a box on my desk when I come to the office when I come back.

Have fun ya'll this thread's been fun.

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[Nexus 7 General] dockinj:
Oh yes not sure how far back it is but I did see several people this AM and last night say they had received shipping emails last night it was the 8G June 27-July 1 with case people and this morning I know I read someone saying they received email with for their 16G + Case June 27- July 1 order. I don't think there are many of us anyway, but some have definitely received their email. I assume that our orders will be the last ones on the truck unfortunately. So Monday email with Wednesday, Thursday delivery maybe?
[Nexus 7 General] :
come on we need a million posts
[Nexus 7 General] dockinj:
Ha so cool reading the above. Thanks!
[Nexus 7 General] BaconStep:
a million posts??? yeah in a million years
[Nexus 7 General] NonovUrbizniz:
I mis-ordered an Lenovo tabletPC... ordered the non-touchscreen monitor by accident (there were 3 options with no clear explination of which was which, I had my terms mixed up and picked the wrong one)...

Called them 2 days later (obviously had not even shipped yet) they told me I could return it for a 20pct restocking fee and order the correct one separately...

So IF Google is willing to take it back at face value and refund shipping on a product that they're likely selling at a loss I'd say no one has the right to complain.

If you're so antsy to get one just go out and buy one, either sell the play one or refuse shipment /complaints on thread... **** if you're hung up on not keeping the 16gb 'cuz it's more expensive then sell that for 180 the day you get your Play 8gb...

Mountains out of mole hills people.
[Nexus 7 General] dockinj:
My twin!!! I used AMEX also, oh wait I got the 16G. So your charge + email will come in a few minutes before mine :cowboy: . I swear I wish I would have went 8G no case, I bet I would have mine Tuesday AM. I just thought I need a case as I have 6 kids and they will wreck it if I don't have triple protection. Gorilla Glass does not have a chance against my 3 boys (8yrs to 18yrs) and my little ladies (6yrs to 12yrs). Now this case has left me feeling well...unprotected against the loneliness that is being without my beloved Nexus 7. I so long for NFC and facial recognition security with a wink. ;)

BTW yes I am sitting here hanging with you all on a Saturday night with a Grey Goose and Tonic, Macbook Pro and Smoke.
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
Not much to talk about until Monday when things pick up again.

And I would hope some of us have a life on weekends.
[Nexus 7 General] NonovUrbizniz:
Pffft what kind of vacation can your children have without unicorns???

Good luck, hope your vacation goes well and the N7's awaiting your return.
[Nexus 7 General] r4d14n7:
That's only one post per year! We're way ahead of the curve already! Go go go! ;)
[Nexus 7 General] BiteBlaze:
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[Nexus 7 General] dockinj:
Cmon we can do it, we are at Replies: 10,709

Views: 981,923...ok so we need a million views is more correctly stated.
[Nexus 7 General] Stromos:
I don't feel like complaining about the fact that my 27th order with case has zero information tonight. I want to speculate that the case isn't going to have a magnet and I am going to absolutely go ballistic that I bought an official case and it is going to be cheap garbage.
[Nexus 7 General] ben dover:
Even though I want my nexus 7 asap, its not that big of a deal to me to have to wait couple more days. I just wish it was coming Monday simply for the fact that its my bday and I'll be off work!

Most likely it hasn't shipped though and will be tuesday
[Nexus 7 General] allancrew:
I ordered on 7/12 and my CC has a temp. transaction
[Nexus 7 General] dockinj:
OK Bite, is that a real pic of you....or just one you took from the web? If that is you....cute. I am not some weirdo old man stalking girls, well I am an old man (39) but this intended as a genuine compliment.
[Nexus 7 General] vevmesteren:
Yeah I know. There will be disappointment I the car that there will be no fruits to slice ninja style as I already sold the transformer prime, and that sure gave us an hour two of peace...

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[Nexus 7 General] BiteBlaze:
Quickmeme.com....... Haha that's not me

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[Nexus 7 General] madreasonable:
It's almost as bad as when people say, "Same difference" when comparing two things to each other. Same difference as what?! I can't stand it.

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[Nexus 7 General] jmcging:
Oh man, hadn't considered that, now that thought will be gnawing at me until UPS shows up next week.....
[Nexus 7 General] Nickcu13:
haha it's definitely a random picture used for the "obsessive girlfriend" meme haha
[Nexus 7 General] teknhard:
lol.. r u new?
[Nexus 7 General] b0bness:
Its about time we got serious in this thread.
[Nexus 7 General] Nordendorf:
well damn, I have to say I'm pretty upset. I just checked my bank again. The 7/13 charge disappeared and now I have a pending charge for 7/16.

Pretty lame as people that ordered after me (according to this thread) have already gotten shipping notices

/sigh

LAME

Looks like wenesday IF IM LUCKY

:(
[Nexus 7 General] thekillingtree:
My buddy still hasn't heard anything and I ordered after him (5pm on the 27th). He also ordered a case and that's what we think is holding it up. He called Google today and the CS rep was honestly confused as to why the order didn't go out.
[Nexus 7 General] rcg8584:
My damn tracking number is still being shown as "could not locate the shipment details for your request" error. Is anyone else having this issue?
[Nexus 7 General] dockinj:
LMAO, I don't know what I would do without some entertainment for the kids. Imagine this....6 of us crammed in my Dodge RAM 3500 Dually for an 11 hour drive to Aurora, Ill to see my in-laws with kids ages 6,8,10,12. If I didn't have an iPad, iPad 2, New iPad, Motorola Xoom running off a ATT 3g USB dongle on a Cradle Point router and a TMOBILE Pay as you go 4G hotspot I would have ran my truck off a bridge before I made it to Chattanooga, TN from Dallas, GA!

I feel for ya man, you gotta get something for the babies to do. If nothing else go to Walmart and pick up a couple cheap DVD players and 4 or 5 of the latest kids DVD's to keep them busy.
[Nexus 7 General] ehafling:
Haha dude that's Crazy Girlfriend.
[Nexus 7 General] altrikdout21:
Nope, because I don't have my tracking number yet T_T

Haha. But I believe he error you're getting is when they're still processing the shipment at UPS or whichever company is shipping for you. But after Google has sent out the order to be processed there. It's normal.
[Nexus 7 General] dockinj:
Oh I hadn't thought of that either Stromos. Surely they have an unadvertised magnet in that case. Ill bet you an extra N7 that Google didn't advertise as a feature of the N7 because they didn't want to hear Apple whine LAWSUIT because they thought of the magnet first. BTW I am a huge Apple fan, but reality is they are the anti-Google in that Apple makes every single product COMPLETELY proprietary where Google says you want it, take it no biggie.
[Nexus 7 General] Rafase282:
Im having that issue. I'm about to hurt someone if I dont get it by monday or some more detailed info of where it is.
[Nexus 7 General] Nordendorf:
Has anyone had their 7/13 charge drop? I now have a pending charge for 7/16 ?
[Nexus 7 General] altrikdout21:
Lol I gave you thanks by accident haha >_>

But it probably won't stay in that phase for more than 1 more business day. That's my guess but I could be wrong.
[Nexus 7 General] zdshadow:
Google - Loves Long Walks off Short Piers

I gave up on getting anywhere with Google. Local Sam's Club a mile away had them in stock and was allowed to sell them. Saved $40 bucks. Done and done. Google can try to charge and ship, but their attempts will be "declined" by my bank. Have fun with that.

I will not order a device direct from Google ever again, as they do not know how to handle e-commerce of physical goods.

Those of us that order regularly from "real" e-commerce retailers have much higher expectations for status feedback through all stages of the order process. Some of us with wisdom and experience, prefer not to do business with amateurs. That isn't whining, that is an expectation of proper e-commerce business processes in the information age. If you engage in e-commerce you have to be able to provide real-time order status, at least if you want to compete in the business space.

For you lurkers, trolls, and flamers: What you think of my opinion is none of my business. If you didn't like my opinion, we all wonder why you were stupid enough to keep reading up to this point. Please form your own opinions, but don't expect to change mine with a pedestrian keyboard seizure.
[Nexus 7 General] woundedworld:
Classic, truth hurts!
[Nexus 7 General] vidanay:
Dude, I work in Aurora...there's no quantity of electronic gadgetry that would make that trip enjoyable!
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
Asking any Google CS rep about where your particular order is - is asking a lot.

Picture a mountain of 10,000 tablets - and yours is somewhere in the middle. And they have lots of mountains.

No idea how many agents they have, but picture a room with 200 desks, manned by 50 regular agents, and 150 temps brought in to handle the rush.

Each one gets a computer terminal and a phone - and maybe a pencil.

Very little direction from above except Keep the customer happy - and no more information than we have.

They do the best they can at a pretty impossible job. Cut them some slack.

Apologies to all the good Google CS reps I just offended...
[Nexus 7 General] altrikdout21:
I actually like waiting for things to ship...gets me excited. Only thing is that this hasn't shipped yet T_T

Excitement curbed. For now. :'(
[Nexus 7 General] chisaki:
Nexus 7 warrenty

I was thinking of buying a Nexus 7 from a nearby Sams club until I heard the news about the warranty. All Nexus 7's sold by the Play Store are eligible for Google Support. Those sold by other retailers will receive support directly from Asus.

Asus makes good, reliable products. I've built several computers and always include an Asus motherboard but I've found that Asus support sucks. If they tell you they'll call you back, it probably will never happen. I also found that if you get an Asus support tech that speaks good English, he don't know shi*.The good ones I could hardly understand.

I'm waiting for my PS tablet so I'll have Google support.
[Nexus 7 General] hawleyncsu:
That's not the information the rep gave me earlier. There is another thread on this topic
[Nexus 7 General] Stromos:
I agree with you I think that's why Google didn't advertise it. I just got this horrible picture in my head of us getting these 20 dollar cases and them not having magnets and Google saying well it wasn't an advertised feature so what do you want from us?
[Nexus 7 General] dockinj:
My thoughts on the OS wars

Ok just as an off topic statement about the low down on what devices are better for what activities. I love testing mobile OS, and devices. At this point I feel like I have a pretty strong unbiased opinion on what is the best.

Start with the underdog that became superpower Apple. Really they have catered to the personal space and they have done it very very well. There is no better device for internet, personal email, photo editing, video, music than the iPhone and iPad. They have slowly and very methodically worked their way into our homes and without a bunch of effort we can't get rid of them. It started with that big clunky iPod where we loaded our entire music library onto iTunes and now we can sync music, movies, family photos, contacts, apps without even thinking about it. I can take a picture on my iPhone from Brazil and my wife is checking it out in Dallas, GA within 10 minutes on her iPhone. Cant be beat!

On to the close second powerhouse Google. My opinion is they have a market and it is everyone who hates all of Apples proprietary cables and ports....and those that use their device for navigation. Point blank you cannot beat Google OS for navigation. Ive tried really I have, I tried Apps on my iPhone from Navigon to Tom Tom and nothing beats hitting that microphone and saying "Navigate to McDonalds". Jelly Bean locks in on the closest McDonalds launches Google Maps and gives turn by turn directions all built into the core OS. Siri has no idea what to do with this. Apple is chasing and they may think that little company they bought will produce a map that comes close to Google but I really don't think there is any possible way.

And bringing up the rear is Microsoft. They stayed in the business game too long and now they don't know what to do. Their idea is that with Windows 8 they are going to force the Mobile OS onto our work laptops so that we are more familiar with it when we try their "Surface" tablets and Mobile phones. But really they have the market cornered on Business because of Word, Excel, Outlook and Powerpoint (yes I know everyone has apps that can work with these but nothing beats the original) but nothing more. They won't some close to navigation, and we already have all of our movies, music and photos in iTunes with no reason to switch. So while I am SOOOOOO excited to see what they will bring with their new OS and line of tablets, Phones I don't see it going much of anywhere by way of competition to the big dogs above.

SO SORRY FOR BEING THIS FAR OFF TOPIC, just wanted to sincerely share some of what I consider very valuable experience and passion I have for Operating Systems. And honestly it does relate to the N7 and Jelly Bean just not so much Orders/Shipping....sorry. If you like this GIMME some THANKS, if not ask me and I will delete this post.
[Nexus 7 General] DBJohnston0104:
This is what I was told too but for the same price as what I paid for a 16 gig from Play, and I was able to buy the same one from Sams with a two year warranty. Now I just have to take it to a local store if it messes up with no shipping.
[Nexus 7 General] razball:
This is the sole reason I didn't cancel my order.

I knew just in case if I do need help I would rather have Google help lol
[Nexus 7 General] tylerwatt12:
I'm starting to have second thoughts on my preorder =/

I hope the batch they send out don't have the adhesive, dead pixel, or WiFi signal issue..

Many people with gamestop preorders got a bad batch which have all these problems.
[Nexus 7 General] DBJohnston0104:
What kind of support would you need? Software support is unnecessary for these since the device is virtually unbrickable. If it's hardware support, and you could just take it to the local Sams club.
[Nexus 7 General] jptech:
Mine is stuck at label created on the 12th.

It originally said scheduled delivery for 16th July, but now it doesn't say that.

I'm waiting for an origin scan, which is when UPS officially receives it.

Looking like wednesday for me.:mad:
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
OK - you threw in a new one on me. What is this supposed wifi signal issue?

This tablet has a plastic back, so no signal attenuation issue like the metal ones.

The ones at the show seemed to cope great with incredible amounts of crosstalk.

Can you picture 5000 wifi transmitters, all maintaining a reliable connection at once...
[Nexus 7 General] DBJohnston0104:
Mine has ZERO wifi issues.
[Nexus 7 General] jptech:
can you post some test results so we can see max speed and such?
[Nexus 7 General] DBJohnston0104:
Sure. Gimme a sec.
[Nexus 7 General] lanwarrior:
OK, I am curious on my order:

- Ordered July 2nd

- Pre-authorization charge since July 2nd

- Never received any tracking number or order update form Google

- I am in Southern California

Why would Google keep pre-authorization charges for 12 days?! I bought a lot of stuff online, from large retailer like Amazon to small one and pre-authorization charge usually dropped off in 2-3 days with the same card I am using to buy the Nexus 7.

I emailed Google twice, no respond.

What do you guys think? Should I just do a chargeback since Google is not responding? There was a post in this thread that said his/her order was cancelled with no reason.
[Nexus 7 General] towelieee22:
Ordered my 16gb on 7/5 in NY still no charge or email or my choice ups update.

Anyone who ordered a 16gb 7/5 get any news?
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
Don't be too obliging - we will ask for Bluetooth data rates too.

I am really curious if Bluetooth is viable for large file transfer...
[Nexus 7 General] DBJohnston0104:
Here you go.
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
Don't ask Google - ask your bank. Bank policies vary - some drop off after 3 days, some after 8. And yours seems longer.

Google does not control how long it stays on.

Quoting Wikipedia:

"Authorization hold (also card authorisation, preauthorization, or preauth) is the practice within the banking industry of authorizing electronic transactions done with a debit card or credit card and holding this balance as unavailable either until the merchant clears the transaction (also called settlement), or the hold "falls off." In the case of debit cards, authorization holds can fall off the account (thus rendering the balance available again) anywhere from 1–5 days after the transaction date depending on the bank's policy; in the case of credit cards, holds may last as long as 30 days, depending on the issuing bank."
[Nexus 7 General] DBJohnston0104:
I don't have any way to help you out with this one. But if you have any other requests....
[Nexus 7 General] MSigler:
Ahahaha
[Nexus 7 General] mtfsandlin:
I know this is crazy, but I wish some of the people that have their N7s already would do some videos of just how the thing runs with them playing on it and tinkering and everything. :P

Especially with the Tablet UI change, I would like to see how it works and acts and such. :P
[Nexus 7 General] lanwarrior:
As mentioned, I use the same credit card (which I have for 10 years) and I know pre-authorization charges drop-off in 2-3 days, as I have seen this in the past. Furthermore, it has been 12 days. Which bank will hold a pre-authorization charges for 12 days? Not the bank I had with this credit card.