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[Kindle Fire General] BananaFusion:
Well I just sold my KF w/ ICS for $130 on Craigslist (only $10 than I paid for the refurb version) and pre-ordered a Nexus 7 (which with tax and shipping is actually $230). Probably should have priced it higher, as I had 3 replies within an hour.

Basically it just has the features I want that I wouldn't get with the KF:

Jellybean right at launch

Microphone (voice search, diction, SoundHound)

Front Camera (SKYPE!)

Better display

More RAM and faster (not that KF with ICS was slow... but sometimes it was noticeable)

Even if Amazon does release a better KF2, it'd still be months until we got Jellybean on there and probably be the same price, so in my mind there was no reason not to switch. The KF has served me well as my first cheap tablet and learned a lot about rooting/ROMs using it (giving me confidence to root my G2 phone and put ICS on that), but it's time to say adios to chase the next greatest thing.
[Kindle Fire General] serx7:
i'm of similar opinion. in my day to day usage, my KF is plenty quick enough. atm i think i'm more interested in seeing JB on the Kindle than getting the Nexus 7. i would love to have one, just not yet convinced it's worth the upgrade cost for my usage.

a front cam would be nice, as would a microphone, but i haven't once wanted to talk to the device (voice control/dictation), & i'm really not into the video chat thing. i'd like to see the Nexus display, although @my typical, normal viewing distances, the perceived diff b/n my Kindle & my wife's new iPad is not that obvious. lack of more storage hasn't been a prob for me either. i don't store much in the way of media on it, have ~50 user apps installed, 4 nandroids of various CM9 ROMs, & still have 2.3GB space available.
[Kindle Fire General] ExploreMN:
Just saw a Fire on sale in the Minnesota CL for $75...claimed to be in perfect condition. LOL Yeah...no chance I'm selling mine. Just sayin...
[Kindle Fire General] :
I love my KF but I am sure this s quite amazing
[Kindle Fire General] zealious:
Dont get mad. Get gladd.

I remember hearbing about asus 200 dollar tegra tablet a few months ago.. I did not expect google to slap the nexus tag and jelly bean on it..

what more can you want for 200 dollars.

I just spent 200 bucks on dog food and a couple days worth of groceries.

THough THe fire is awesome.. Sadly I will be trying to sell my fire. wish me luck .. 140 for mint kf with box and all accessories? I event kept the plastic shield.. :good:

Did they get ics video working on kf yet? is the ics out of beta stage yet??
[Kindle Fire General] powerpoint45:
Yeah,where have you been XD
[Kindle Fire General] BrynDN:
definitely will buy one for $200!!
[Kindle Fire General] lucidvtec:
Just sold my kindle for 150 cash!!!

Its been real!!

Just pre ordered my nexus 7
[Kindle Fire General] Hashbang173:
Who did you sell it to

if you find something I posted helpful please thank me
[Kindle Fire General] ExploreMN:
I hate Minnesota. There are over a dozen sub-$80 Kindle Fire's for sale in my area. There is no way I would get $150 for mine. :(
[Kindle Fire General] Zyxxeil:
Just put on your post that it has ICS and Play Store that will surely be a + for anyone looking for a tablet. Put a link back to the rom your are using and let them look at all the features it has.

Man these Nexus 7 Ads everywhere makes it so tempting. :D
[Kindle Fire General] psousa781:
I want to have your baby.
[Kindle Fire General] TahrirSquare:
I just sold mine on Craigslist for $150. On to the nexus 7 I move. I still got my wife's kindle though.
[Kindle Fire General] cpeterman:
Price/Performance

I think with all of the love that the KF gets from Dev's, unless you really need the horsepower, for your money it still cant be beat.

I needed a bigger screen for remote desktop and games so I have a TF300, but my gf loves the KF with AOKP for web surfing and bejeweled. For anyone who wants a cheap tablet, you can't go wrong with it IMO.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Slackermethod:
I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem. A couple weeks ago my usb just quit picking up any connection. IE. Notta when connect to computer and no charging from wall. But this only happens when booted to android. RSD and fastboot still connect and computer reads rsd/fastboot mode??? Search high and low but havent seen a post anywhere on any forum for this issue. Is my luck just that bad lol:confused::p
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
You on 2.3.5?
[Motorola Photon 4G] Slackermethod:
No its 2.3.4
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
Google just announced Android 4.1, codenamed Jelly Bean today.

So i thought we would need a separate thread to discuss the possibility of whether or not we would get the OTA for our Sensations!

Any news or announcements from HTC will be shared here!
[HTC Sensation] Sensation-al!:
Whether or not we get an OTA, (Which we should) the talented devs here will surely have something for us :)
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
Thats true, but an official update is always welcomed!:)
[HTC Sensation] Jiggs82:
If we don't get a ota from HTC then hopefully with the source code released from Google we can get some custom roms out there for us;)
[HTC Sensation] GazaIan:
We'll get an OTA. Next year.

Meanwhile, we'll get this from the awesome devs here next week.

Google is releasing the SDK developer preview today, so if anyone is really awesome we can probably see an SDK port pretty soon.
[HTC Sensation] shahkam:
Btw sdk is out for jelly bean : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=27963070

May the hacking begin I guess?

Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] blackcell1:
I really hope our hardhare can be supported.
[HTC Sensation] chiragkrishna:
no ota... no stable rom... same story on n on n on... remem the time when ics was out??
[HTC Sensation] blackcell1:
I may just trade my sensation for a nexus s
[HTC Sensation] GazaIan:
How is that the same story? HTC gave us an ICS OTA stable ROM, and AOSP ICS ROMs are on the rise.
[HTC Sensation] fandroid93:
Have fun bro.
[HTC Sensation] blackchad:
Just watched the video I'm sooo excited it looks awesome :) I better be able to name the assistant majel :D
[HTC Sensation] Daiskei:
This! Majel, the ONLY thing I am looking forward to in JB. Lol. Tiny tidbit for you guys, google called it Majel after the creator of Star Trek's (Gene Roddenberry) Wife Majel Roddenberry. :) It's supposed to work very similar to the Star Trek "Computer."
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
Im sure this Majel will be another excuse for HTC and other companies to delay the OTA and buy some time!
[HTC Sensation] shahkam:
Im just wondering how smooth is it over ics

Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] ungraph:
The likelihood of getting 4.1 pushed OTA is EXTREMELY unlikely. We've recently gotten ICS officially pushed a couple of months ago.
[HTC Sensation] dmcb123:
Apparently it runs constantly at 60fps :O
[HTC Sensation] blackchad:
Tbh I haven't ever flashed an ota since registering at xda... Just hope the devs are on it
[HTC Sensation] Sensation-al!:
That's absolutely not true, we are required to get the updates for 18 months after the phone's release OTA, so we're still guaranteed it. It's just a matter of when...
[HTC Sensation] ungraph:
Says who? The Sensation isn't HTC's flagship phone anymore. You're not entitled to anything.
[HTC Sensation] The Archangel:
Did u ever say they were going to call it jb sense??? Just making a generalized statement for people who haven't read everything, so they will know what's going on.

Sense 4 is based on ics 4.0.3(don't hold it to me)

Sense 4.1 is ics 4.0.4.

If you look at the previous sense. Sense 3=gb, sense 3.5=gb an sense 3.6=ics.

Sense 3.6 is only a small improvement over 3.5. The major difference between them both is the Android version. It wouldn't make it sense(no pun intended) if they use jb base an Call it 4.2. It's a whole new base for it, that's why it'd be better if they call it sense 4.5.

4,being the fourth iteration of sense. An.5 being the new base(Jelly bean). Same as 3.6 over 3.5

An no I'm not a lawyer.
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
From what I've been reading Sense 4.1 UI will also be on JB but dont hold me to that, a lot of this is speculation at this point.
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
The fact that a specific version of Sense would or wouldn't work on a specific version of android is totally a different story than calling it Sense JB. In case you dont remember, this is your post:

And i asked what is exactly "JB sense" and you mentioned:

Clearly calling Sense 4.5 as "JB Sense".

Also, your reasoning still doesn't make sense to me. You mention that 3.5 is for GB and 3.6 is for ICS. So basically a jump of 0.1 in version for a huge jump in the android version. And then you conclude that sense 4.5 should be for JB and not 4.2. These two are contrary to each other: from what i understand, you are basically saying that a major improvement in android version (ICS) causes sense to go up only by 0.1, and then a minor improvement in android version (JB) would cause a huge jump of 0.4 in sense!!
[HTC Sensation] sub0min0us:
If HTC decided that sensation wouldn't get jb with sense, do you think we can use ville c2 jb with sense if it arrives to them?

Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e
[HTC Sensation] The Archangel:
I'm just using the info that htc has presented in front of me.

The sense difference between 3.5 An 3.6 aren't as major compared to sense 4. Personally calling it sense 4.2 wouldn't fit in line with the other sense version(going off their previous history)

4.5 would make more sense honestly. I can't speak for htc with the numbering craziness. Sense 3.6, I believe that was all bit of a mistake.

Honestly, I'm not going to argue bout what sense version is going to be on JB, based on the fact that I just don't give a dam. I'm an aosp/cm/aokp/paranoid android user.
[HTC Sensation] The Archangel:
Don't see why not. Most of our sense 4 roms are c2 based.
[HTC Sensation] sub0min0us:
That I'm not sure. As far as I can see, we can install them currently because we have enough kernel source for ICS. In line with it, we should also have kernel source for jb right before we can use jb roms for ville c2? I would be happy to be corrected if we can use ville c2's rom without having jb kernel source for sensation and just simply use their sources.

Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
Why are you trying to make an arguament when non exists.

THIS IS SPECULATION, there is no point in trying to predict what HTC will do because they are a buisness and will do whats best for the buisness.

All anyone can do is wait but right now the small bit of information we have is that HTC will put Sense 4.1 onto JB ROM's but again, this is speculation and could be wrong.

My opinion is drop the subject and wait for more information from HTC or those who work for HTC.
[HTC Sensation] The Archangel:
I'm pretty sure our devs can create something :D
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
Of course it is speculation. Where did i EVER EVER EVER say for sure that something is definitely going to happen/not going to happen? I asked you this question in this post as well but you clearly failed to read it because you are saying the same thing again:

"Yes, but did i ever say that "HTC will give us official JB sense"?"

The only person who is actually saying that something will happen for sure (and NOT SPECULATION) is The Archangel:

"JB sense might be 4.5."

In this post which again, you clearly failed to read.

You also failed to read my statement in here as well:

"he whole point of the thread is to discuss whether or not "HTC will give us official JB sense" lol"

If you have been on XDA for long enough, you would be able to easily understand that there are always threads about coming up apps/new versions before they are released and this thread is nothing new (there are in fact lots of such threads regarding just JB on sensation).
[HTC Sensation] Subin khan:
If you missed this info, HTC Smartphones that will receive 4.1 Jelly Bean

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1849093
[HTC Sensation] townay:
I am still skeptical :p

That url provided in that forum 404'd lol
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
And im sure "Jonny" will show up to post again regarding "speculation" to make sure everyone knows this is speculation:D
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
Actually what I was going to say was that this ties in with the information we have already, but as with 2 posts above I am still skeptical and wont believe it until HTC make an official announcement.
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
Finally....:cowboy:
[HTC Sensation] The Archangel:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x-specs-supposedly-leak

called it. jelly bean will have sense 4.5
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=31435507&postcount=96
[HTC Sensation] Abaddon:
I agree. There's no point for HTC to release sense 4.5 with JB on it. a port will come but official? No. And I guess its the end of the road for us or we shall get a few more updates but minor ones i think.
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
Yea i read that before but what does it have to do with anything that i have said so far?

I have to repeat myself again, that by posting this topic im not implying that we will or we will not get JB or Sense 4.5. This is just a place to talk about the possibility of getting the update (as i also mentioned in OP), like several other topics (including the one you linked from).

And this will be the trend for phones as it has always been, when something new is coming, ppl post topics to talk about it.
[HTC Sensation] readams:
I'd be surprised if sensation really gets Jelly Bean. Sadly the way of the world. Luckily there's bruce2728: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1782009
[HTC Sensation] DugyC:
Nae chance!

What he said... :laugh:
[HTC Sensation] andyli1985:
This. :thumbup:
[HTC Sensation] eptkno:
:good:
[HTC Sensation] tobitege:
In the end the user's taste will decide... personally I'm already very happy with Bruce's ROM and don't need or actually want a Sense overhead as the system is running smoothly and fast. For widgets I use only one Fancy Widget's weather, that's it.

My usage of all the "smarts" of the phone is certainly less than what others do with it (marry it?). :)
[HTC Sensation] Guuske:
What he said... :laugh:
[HTC Sensation] roccatkone:
I heard the rumours, which say, that our beloved Sensation finally gets Jelly Bean. I can't find the link by now :f

But I also like the stock skin of Jelly Bean and would really like to see the JB status bar and a few components of the launcher with the nice widgets of HTC.
[HTC Sensation] Sensation-al!:
Google's agreement with manufacturers says that a phone must receive all new versions of android for 18 months after release, regardless of "flagship" status.

Sent from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
unless the hardware can't handle it, which in this case i think it can...
[HTC Sensation] Sensation-al!:
Exactly.
[HTC Sensation] The Archangel:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=27977765
[HTC Sensation] xdviper:
That price of $350 for a Galaxy Nexus isn't bad at all....

I don't believe we'll see an Jelly Bean update for our phones for a long time. Probably until December, hell we barely have ICS working without those annoying bugs.
[HTC Sensation] quahog_convo:
Yeah, I've been trying to resist buying a GNex, especially when the camera isn't so great on it.
[HTC Sensation] GazaIan:
Nobody doing an SDK port? I just tried to but recovery keeps trying to start AROMA, even with updater-script blank (Oh, the joy of doing **** in Windows 8), and I'm way too lazy to really put effort into doing it.

---------- Post added at 10:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:56 PM ----------

TBH I kinda regret not buying a Galaxy Nexus now. Even though last year's phones can match it, and this year's phones kill it it terms of specs, but Galaxy Nexus owners always get first dibs on everything :(
[HTC Sensation] mrquidz:
seriously, i love my htc sensation. it's i think the most sexiest (except now emerging sIII) and almost more than enough for a phone for me.

I really love to see Jellybean in my phone. Oh why...
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
I would never go with Samsung:d

Plus u gotta rem that no matter what the brand is, Nexus phones are never flagships. So u always have to choose between performance or having a Nexus.
[HTC Sensation] Freshly_Snipes:
I don't think anyone's going to touch it right now. They're already having hell getting ICS stable and efficient. So why sidetrack?

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using PKMN ROM using Sense 4.0
[HTC Sensation] mrquidz:
I heard it's become easier to port to other phone in jellybean, is it true?
[HTC Sensation] Sensation-al!:
I hope so!
[HTC Sensation] sstarlight:
rather than take Samsung phone, I better wait for HTC release Jelly Bean phone with HTC Sense.. it's gotta be awsome :D
[HTC Sensation] akbisw:
ICS is super stable for me with Opensensation nightlies. I would not mind jelly bean goodies at 60 frames a second. With our new GPU drivers it would be better than Gnex for sure.
[HTC Sensation] gsmyth:
Has anyone seen the improved notifications? They say contain details of caller/email/msg and you can reply from the notification, can we not do that already on ics?
[HTC Sensation] blackchad:
Nexus s got ota update today, already SDK port to acer iconia, and its already working rooted on nexus s.. this thing is blowing up and I do want
[HTC Sensation] oak25:
Damn.. I thought I would be able to resist the 399 price tag, but I couldn't resist the 349... I have been nexified!.. Hope to see you guys over at the nexus forum. Sensation is still a good phone, the wife will be mad.. when she sees the.. bank statement.. worth it!
[HTC Sensation] blackwing182:
since jelly bean is a moded and re worked ICS, there will not be problems this time
[HTC Sensation] Alipk52:
Well this is my last HTC Phone..i will not gonna buy HTC Phone again, they are the worst manufacturers when it comes to updating older phones (apart from Desire HD, S) This is where Samsung comes superior, Samsung Galaxy S3 is very new device, and Galaxy Nexus (the older one) will be the first to receive update, and HTC? "What do you think your ONE X can do?" "Blah Blah thinks HTC One X Is the best device ever made" one x, one s, one x, one s, one x, one s........buy new One X/S to receive updates for 2 odd months then it'll be "out dated" as well. If Devs here will give some love to our phones, only then it will be possible to get JB, otherwise DON'T EVER think HTC will update our phones, if they did, my new device will be HTC'S, this is reality guys, samsung is far most better, they never forget there older phones if they think they are capable enough to receive updates, but with HTC none of the older phones are capable for new OS versions, but for devs, it's easy as 123..Prove me if i am wrong...i have the reason to prove i am right, HTC One V..SENSE 4.0, And Sensation? not capable (HTC Thinks) to run Sense 4.0
[HTC Sensation] TriTopaz:
After trying to use Linebreak, think about why the manufactures dont update their outdated phones.

They want to sell new ones. Called "free market economy".

Mercedes wont intregate their newest engine to all older cars, either. Its the same with software. Only because of the missing possibility to touch it, its a good which has costs, too.

I dont know where you´ve heared about the dream, that samsung updates more phones than htc does. The 2 or 3 devices which recived the ICS Update (several month after the sensation receives OTA) dont confirm that.

They just update their latest flagships, like HTC does. The Google Nexus can be updated very easiely, because it is stock. (Not the Samsung Nexus!!)
[HTC Sensation] ziddey:
:silly::silly:

lmao all the past androids that i've had...

take for instance the motorola triumph. it came out with froyo when gb was out. promises were made over and over, and eventually, they just discontinued the phone. hell, even if they just released an updated, stable froyo, it would have been fine.
[HTC Sensation] sajibcy:
well its not true. i think samsung is the worst manufactures of mobile update. while htc update ics many phones, samsung just start from galaxy 2. even they ignore Galaxy i9000 which was extremely popular flagship phone and the excuse was "not enough power to run ics" .but check for HTC, they update many phones with same specs with NEW SENSE.
[HTC Sensation] Mash23:
Didn't they release the Platform Development Kit (PDK) also side by side with SDK so this SHOULD make the updating "older" (like you could that Sensation is old -_-) phones easier for manufacturers?

There will be a JB OTA for Sensation no doubt about it but it will take atleast 3 months I think. Hopefully some test versions leak ahead of time like always :P
[HTC Sensation] mrquidz:
This what i've been talking about. i hope so..
[HTC Sensation] sajibcy:
u think 3 month for OTA? hope u r right. but i dont think so. i think min 5-6 month (if they give OTA).
[HTC Sensation] olyloh6696:
Ok guys. The best thing to do is ask HTC on twitter. Let them know we want the upgrade. Remember the original Desire and Desire HD? HTC gave into customer demand in the end. Since the Sensation has a wide user range, if everyone protests, HTC will have to do something about it.

Personally, I can't see HTC providing any support, as they will have ti further develop Sense 3.6, and I think they just want to focus on 4.0 now. ICS + Sense 3.6 is meant to be the closing point for the Sense 3.X lineup.

Although we never know... ;)
[HTC Sensation] mulletcutter:
If the mytouch3g got gingerbread I'm sure we will get jelly bean. Maybe not soon but after some time. But custom roms will be made.
[HTC Sensation] nnila:
I'd imagine we would get this port fairly fast.

With v4 there were totally new drivers so it took time. With this its a minor update so all the original drivers should work so I cant see there being a lot the dev's will need that they cant find from places to piece together.
[HTC Sensation] bosslabs:
Jelly bean OTA by HTC for sensation?Coming very soon during Nov 2013 :D
[HTC Sensation] mulletcutter:
Hold ur breath :) 2013 is like right around the corner
[HTC Sensation] shahkam:
+1 we probably wont see the jb update because sensation is getting old but no worriess we have badass devs here :D just a matter of time honestly..

Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
Jelly Bean is already porated for One X:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/android-4-...ed-to-htc-one-x-not-ready-for-prime-time-yet/
[HTC Sensation] Freshly_Snipes:
Yeah but I don't hear one developer saying they're working on it. Not going to happen if you ask me. At least not yet.
[HTC Sensation] T-Macgnolia:
accidental post
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
Yea its still buggy but it took less than 12 hrs since it was announced to be ported!
[HTC Sensation] mulletcutter:
Mdj was tweetin pics JB on hox
[HTC Sensation] Alaq:
You think that we can port from the nexus? Here.
[HTC Sensation] edpham:
I hope the devs would port it soon. Its rocking on galaxy nexus °____°
[HTC Sensation] SiRyuA:
Jelribin are being ported.

I am currently porting a sensation, and jelly beans, plus ...

Annie is up to boot from the state.
[HTC Sensation] moshe22:
Very nice
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
looking forward to it...
[HTC Sensation] kushXmaster:
JellyBean isn't as big of an update as people are anticipating. Its mainly a performance/bug fix release. There is absolutely no reason it won't work on sensation. The main thing being released with it is google assistant :)