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[Galaxy S II General] metallious:
Waiting....

Guys calm down! If GS2 won't have the upgrade that should not be a big deal since many developpers such as CM9 and AOKP would certainely port the OS for our GS2. If it would have the upgrade then just nice... we will have all the features in our custom roms like always.
[Galaxy S II General] timonoj:
I could understand the screen resolution thingy, but then how do they claim that the desired amount of RAM is 2GB, when the GNex has 1GB?? Makes not much sense. I'll rather wait and see Samsung saying something about it.
[Galaxy S II General] rjsmer:
Yeah mates I'm waiting for official news... :)
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
SGSII can be updated to JB and I don't agree with h/w limitations as an excuse from Samsung. All we can do is wait and watch to see what Samsung says :-)

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[Galaxy S II General] ant987:
And the Nexus S only has 512mb of RAM and is getting JB...
[Galaxy S II General] ecopy:
Galaxy Note will get the update, Galaxy Tab 7.7 is pretty new and I'm sure it also get the update. And all these devices are pretty much close to each other in the matter of hardware, so I believe, we'll get JB also. But it's up to marketing, and the date we get the official update really might be Q1-2013 =(
[Galaxy S II General] rjsmer:
Got a good news Samsung going to announce jb update... List... Soon provely GS2 in list source Samsung insider...

Look like Hopes coming true... :D:D:D
[Galaxy S II General] Ruben1987:
I do really wonder where all those people in this thread like you get the info from!!! Cause all you guys do post is short messages without even referring to official Samsung news posts and only to dumb 3rd party websites that don't get their info from trusted sources.

PLEASE STOP THIS NOW and make this a thread where we discuss the Jelly Bean update in a mature way and stop guessiing and posting links about when we will recieve it!

We will know it when Samsung releases their official statement regarding this.
[Galaxy S II General] rjsmer:
I didn't got it from... Any third party sites... One of my friend working for samsung... Told me... He is not sure... And Btw this thread is about all the news rumours and leaks dude... So everything going right :D
[Galaxy S II General] yorkshiretyke:
I have to agree with you. there really is no point posting this kind of stuff.

lets just wait for something official from samsung!

im more than happy with ICS for now. you gotta remember, that only 10% of android devices have ics officially. we sgs2 owners are amongst that 10%! Jelly bean was only annouced a few days ago
[Galaxy S II General] ali madan:
A mixture of happiness and dissappointment!

I think jb is gonna be a great update whereas it will help android be more stable and provide a smooth ui for all users to use... But am I the only person who thinks that android is not going to be so special after it looses the flash player in this new update?!
[Galaxy S II General] rjsmer:
Agree... Flash is the most important feature in android...
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
The debate of Android vs iPhone where android supports flash would be moot.

Credits to Steve Jobs who killed flash along with him :-)

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[Galaxy S II General] ecopy:
Can't you just download Adobe flash player from play.google?

Earlier it's been discussed that pure google android contains Chrome, which is by default lacks flash, and has html5 instead. But nothing's said about other browsers...
[Galaxy S II General] android167:
Samsung nexus S with single core 1ghz and 512mb of ram will get jb. So we must get jb because samsung now has NO excuse why not to give us. :)
[Galaxy S II General] bobby21:
Are you kidding me? Flash Player sucks!

Of course we will get the jb update, the more important question is: HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE SAMSUNG TO GIVE US JB!

Seriously I'm unhappy for having to wait so long to get the updates. I think I should either buy a wp8 or a nexus device next time around.
[Galaxy S II General] rjsmer:
Lol nah I'm serious :p

I don't think u used flash that much... And please don't ask how to use it... :D:D:D

Chil it was just my view everyone has there own view... Thts mine nothing much nothing less... :)
[Galaxy S II General] ditech50:
I'm so sorry I just want to share some proofs.
[Galaxy S II General] rajarshi10:
Its okay. Chill :highfive:
[Galaxy S II General] mk86:
Don't fight each other.. It is just a piece of software :)

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[Galaxy S II General] :
Most wanted software :p

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---------- Post added at 03:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:55 PM ----------

Any day my friends, any day :cool:

Note! I am not an insider of Samsung neither do i know someone but i assume leak this weak :D

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[Galaxy S II General] anton_46:
Hey, dude, november doesnt mean 1st week of november
[Galaxy S II General] rajarshi10:
And he is asking for 4.2 :D :D
[Galaxy S II General] Riskytwin:
Good news!
[Galaxy S II General] ant987:
Amazing! At least now we have some information! And its a great information! What I don't understand is, why is there a leak for the Note while there's nothing for the S2 which is obviously in a more advanced stave of development XXLSI > XXLS7. ??

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[Galaxy S II General] Prashanthme:
I think Sammy want to upgrade all its devices in descending order!!

Note2(Which had since start) >> S3 >> Note 1>> S2??
[Galaxy S II General] MPooZD:
galaxy note getting 4.1.2 before S3 ! OMG !
[Galaxy S II General] :
Probably due to the people who got the leak isn't sharing it to public , its obvious. Someone got the hands on the information and leaked it but decided to not share anything more.

Sorry folks

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[Galaxy S II General] Bojcha:
It will be sad when you all realize that official rom will have same problems as any cm10 based rom.
[Galaxy S II General] minidou-77:
I leak is not something Samsung controls. It appears now and then when someone (most likely a Samsung employee) has a chance to make one public ;)
[Galaxy S II General] Dalfin:
My guess is that even official update won't delay more that till December. So we w8 10 days to 2 months...
[Galaxy S II General] :
No it won't be as Samsung have all the sources they need, there won't be any memory leak etc. With sources those will be a more stable Rom. Don't worry

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[Galaxy S II General] bombaybadboy:
Even tho Samsung will still do it badly :)
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
Let's give them a chance :)
[Galaxy S II General] grzesiek1945:
We can give chance but samsung show Us that can mess up software even he has sources (famous bricked kernel on 4.0.4)

Sorry for bad English

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[Galaxy S II General] Dark Emotion:
lol dude...
[Galaxy S II General] Bojcha:
What's funny?

Did you saw how stock JB works on S3 ? Same crapy issues Sometimes stutters/lags sometimes not. There is no memory leak tho, but one S3 i know had 3 FCs in 5 days.. etc. Actually CM10 for S3 is more stable and smoother then stock jb.

So, understand this however you want.
[Galaxy S II General] gszabi:
I think its not bad that we are the last receive the update, maybe many bugs will be repaired based on the earlier updated devices.
[Galaxy S II General] ant987:
People are complaining about JB on the S3 because they update via OTA, mantaining all their data and everybody knows that is far better to update with ODIN doing all the wipes, or at least with kies! I know some people that say that JB is amazing on the S3!
[Galaxy S II General] ssanyi:
A kind of thing is smoothness (stock vs CM10). Another thing is guarantee. Installing and accidentally bricking your device with CM10 causes extra costs to you (repair), while with stock software and no tuning you have a probability of Sammy service.

Millions of people do not want to hack his mobile, just want new software.

It's my opinion. I like CM, so this comment just my idea, not anti custom firmware advert.
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
It's not like Jellybean for the S2 will be a game changer... All that's important is source. And even that might not be too useful.
[Galaxy S II General] rajarshi10:
Game changer?

1)Nature UX

2)Ripple Lockscreen

3)JB Status bar

4)Google Now

5)Project Butter

Not enough? :confused:
[Galaxy S II General] ant987:
Appereantly not enough! People love to complain about what Samsung is doing! And then they still buy their phones :P

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[Galaxy S II General] Elistheman:
All i hope for is USB DAC support like the s3.....
[Galaxy S II General] :
lol i don't except that i saw in 4.0.4 the RAM goes straight up t 4xx mb constantly open and closes apps, why i don't know

but the i like the way samsung handle the proximity sensor, and the features they build for it,

enough said
[Galaxy S II General] gszabi:
Before my S2 i had a Nexus S. When jelly bean update comes out i just shocked how smooth is this old hardware. Then my first requirement for the upcoming update is Project Butter and bugless working. I think many people want this firstly.
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
Well it`s not for sure that Sammy is going to implement Project Butter correctly. I remember that codeworkx said that Samsung didn`t implement project butter correctly inside the Galaxy SIII update.
[Galaxy S II General] :
Nope as they are using a different type of code ... that makes everything not running butter,

and they set a launcher that isn't made for butter neither,
[Galaxy S II General] AbyssTrion:
Since the Note I has it (with Nature UX a/ Stuff) I guess we'll get the same :)
[Galaxy S II General] shaunnicho:
I've got a horrible feeling I'm gonna be disappointed with Samsung's update
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
Unused RAM is wasted RAM. An OS that can dynamically cache RAM to speed up system performance is a good thing. Android 2.x wasn't equipped to handle larger amounts of RAM. ICS was a step in the right direction.
[Galaxy S II General] sahibunlimited:
Actually samsung 4.0.4 roms brick the phone(even in stock recovery for some people):silly:

CM10 doesn't.

Butter isn't coded in an app but its in the core android os itself. Its not that "Samsung's launcher doesn't have butter/butter doesn't work with samsung launcher or AOSP launcher have butter." If butter is implemented in (HWcomposer,etc) then it will work with every app.
[Galaxy S II General] :
hmm good to know still 4.0.3 had 27x-29x in ram at start 4.0.4 have 3xx-34x a huge difference

hmm true, but i honestly believe if you have a launcher that isn't that fast as touchwiz isn't it won't feel like butter lol
[Galaxy S II General] Mirko ddd:
I hope Samsung follow the Note updating line, but until some stuff goes out.. we can only hope.

In case it will be a game changer anyway, because of framework, really much complex than ice cream sandwich.

Project butter? In ice cream sandwich all is smooth enough, so it s not vital for me.
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
You missed my point. In an OS that dynamically caches RAM, the idea is to use ALL RAM so that the OS is smoother and quicker. If the OS cannot use all RAM then it is not being efficient. Superfetch and prefetch are terms commonly used to refer to this. More memory usage by the OS, if used for prefetching, is a good thing. You are trying to equate it as being a bad thing.
[Galaxy S II General] bombaybadboy:
So is there members out there still F5ing :D
[Galaxy S II General] RusherDude:
Haha, we had a 2-post conversation and you're already calling me retarded. What a great Senior member you are.

I'm not gonna bother replying to you anymore, you really suck at debating anything.
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
1) It's already available through mod, nothing necessarily new

2) it's already available through mod, nothing necessarily new

3) It's not THAT amazing of a change. ;) And who's to say they'll integrate it?

4) Already available through mod, again who's to say they'll integrate it?

5) We cannot confirm that the infamous "Project butter" will even be properly ported into Samsung's HWC. Only time will tell.

No, it probably won't be a game changer... And considering the ICS launch and how long it took to iron out all the kinks (And how they re-exposed a bunch of people to the emmc brick bug with the latest versions), I'm not expecting much from the stock ROM TBH.

As for the other comment about "people who still buy Samsung", it's my first Samsung and last Samsung. ;) All I want is a source drop, to see if they'll make good on their word and release USEFUL source and then, MAYBE, I'll be excited. :D
[Galaxy S II General] Vazduh:
I F5-ed for the past 4 hours and will keep doing so another hour at least. :laugh:
[Galaxy S II General] Floydfire:
True. And for those who flashed cm10 jelly bean, at least the 4.1.2 version is already an old os.. call me lucky but apart the first releases cm10 it's perfect for my use.. and with siyah or dorimanx it's smooth... so I wait for the Samsung ROM only for curiosity... I'm a flash-addicted. Since my first Android: wildfire. So I hope the thought of a user that say Samsung will follow the Apple style of update, the only one thing positive of apple, will true and Samsung get us 4.2 ROM but for me it's pure SciFi xD

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[Galaxy S II General] ssanyi:
You should buy Nexus device(s), because those gets all goodies "as is" from Google, w/o bloatware, so you can mod it as you want.

But this thread is about stock firmware, not about mods.

Sammy will announce fully working jelly beans, because in the other way round, they wouldn't disclose that we get JB. Again, just my opinion. :)
[Galaxy S II General] mbalazs81:
It was almost completely worn away by pressing F5.. :)
[Galaxy S II General] :
lol yes i do, you caught me, maybe because when theres much ram it uses more battery (at least it feels like that)
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
Going by the way that you quoted me it seems that you were more offended by the facts presented than any insult. It bothers you that you are wrong so you latch onto anything to avoid the debate. You avoid the debate because you have no facts or evidence to present to bolster your side.

In other words, you admitted to being wrong. Thank you for that.
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
Oh trust me. I've been wanting a Nexus device for a while now and will be all over the Nexus 4 in T-Minus 8 days.

And what I listed was in response to what "Jellybean" would bring, which isn't THAT much... Sure everyone's excited about a new release. Who isn't on XDA? We all love to flash new versions... But will it be groundbreaking? Not really.

And they WILL release a "fully working" version, that goes without saying... Will it have what everyone wants? We'll see soon enough. ;)
[Galaxy S II General] RusherDude:
You fail hard at trolling :)
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
Now now kids, don't make someone get the XDA police to give you a fine.
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
Too late, but it was deserved. I received my infraction, and if anyone else did, that is none of my business. It's over and done with.
[Galaxy S II General] :
infractions can be well served sometimes can't they :confused:

specially speaking about leaks etc
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
I like rainbows and cotton candy.

In other news: Who's psyched about Jellybean 4.2 being out when we don't even have official 4.1 on our phones?! :D
[Galaxy S II General] bombaybadboy:
Starting to think that when they say leak is almost ready they are thinking in days not hours
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
Don't wanna be pessimistic, I'd go with weeks.
[Galaxy S II General] bombaybadboy:
I was so looking forward to see Sammy's version of butter and seeing how there battery life is. Must admit tho I would miss 4.2 keyboard because I'm getting pretty good with it :D
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
I guess delay is worth it since I9100 would be directly updated to 4.1.2 instead of 4.1.1 and we'll be just one version behind the nexus for another 6 months :P
[Galaxy S II General] bombaybadboy:
4.1.1 to 4.1.2 was such a minor update I don't think anyone would notice. All I remember was expandable notification draw
[Galaxy S II General] :
stability fixes which google don't care to write that much about but the update was more specific to Nexus 7 if i am not wrong
[Galaxy S II General] Denny966:
Do we get multi window for the sgs2?
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Pleased with Sammy's decision for skipping 4.1.2, but at the same time gutted we don't get 4.2... Yet. Hopefully we will get it as minor odaye later on.
[Galaxy S II General] RusherDude:
Probably they've been working on it since 2-3 months ago and there's still 2-3 more since S2 gets 4.2. S3 users are getting it final December/start January.. don't expect to get it before them.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Android 4.2 was announced last week on Oct 29th 2012 and how do you expect it so soon on a non nexus device. We may get it down the line if Samsung intends to update it. ;)
[Galaxy S II General] thomsch:
Also, there isn't a huge difference with 4.1

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[Galaxy S II General] Floydfire:
My little experience of developer say to me that the new features like lockscreen if implemented the same function in Samsung style mean that they have to work on it... also for the new notification and photo... Samsung and other OEM spend much time to personalization of the os. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the delay it's for the transformation of an os in tipical Google style into a touchwized os. I mean only graphic it's a think that also one little Dev with Passion can modify but changing the entire lock screen and notification bar with the Samsung style isn't that fast...

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[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Really.?

http://www.android.com/whatsnew/

If it's pure Android, there are noticeable differences on nexus device but for S2 users like us its again upto Samsung

Multi user support - On tablets and not on phones

Improved Camera - Highly subjective since Samsung uses touchwiz version of camera

Keyboard - Samsung gives you their own and you have swype as alternative.

Rest of features like widget on lockscreen, Daydream is all again if Samsung feels its important.
[Galaxy S II General] thomsch:
You have hopes that samsung will implement all that features if they release an update to 4.2?

Only widgets on lockscreen maybe

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[Galaxy S II General] Spyr0s:
Multi user support - There is no point for it in a phone plus that SD cards have FAT file system so no file ownership anyway

Improved Camera - Samsung camera -> more options -> better

Keyboard - I'm sure that 4.2 keyboard clones will appear on market when 4.2 sources drop
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Not everything would come and They don't necessarily have to..

My previous post meant Samsung has their own implementation of certain Android features(keyboard, camera etc) so only thing which may come from Android 4.2 is widget on lockscreen and rest is doubtful and useless.
[Galaxy S II General] j510:
They always include stock android keyboard as an option along swype and Samsung keyboard.

For example gingerbread keyboard on stock. then when we got ics we got the ics keyboard replacing previous os versions keyboard.
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
I'm not even sure they'd implement widgets on the lockscreen. Samsung seems content with their simplistic lockscreen. HTC implemented unlocking to a specific app in Sense 3.0 almost 2 years ago, and Google added it to ICS. Samsung STILL doesn't use it. Hell, even Apple allows you to unlock straight to the camera now.

Honestly, I don't see a single smartphone feature in 4.2 that Samsung would care to add. Most of those features are already in or superseded by Touchwiz, or would conflict with Samsung's vision for the UI. Android 4.0.x was the big update. Adding 4.1 added project butter, but removed all traces of Adobe Flash compatibility, with some other changes. Pick your poison. We're at a point now where these tenth updates aren't that big a deal compared to how they used to be. Android 2.1, 2.2, and 2.3 all added some game-changing features, and 4.0 was a big deal because it was such a radical departure from 2.3. I see 4.1 and 4.2 as continuations of ICS and not deserving of being called JB. That should have been saved for 5.x.
[Galaxy S II General] Spyr0s:
I know, i just wanted to add some points

The new ripple lock screen allows you to set shortcuts
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Samsung has implemented lockscreen shortcuts in Ripple lockscreen. It is available but it's implemented "Samsung way". Also there is JKAY mod if want it AOSP way or there's mods for it on XDA

Google doesn't have to necessarily call it v5/v6 if they implement major features or changes to OS. It's a just a tradition in s/w development industry where if a bug fix is released for a s/w it would be a .1 release and if newer features are added it would have higher version on it.

To give you an example look at version number of Google Chrome vs Firefox vs Internet explorer on windows :D
[Galaxy S II General] DanDroidian:
Only up to ICS 4.0.3 right now....
[Galaxy S II General] drraptor:
Just install it as a apk. Even possible on stock Samsung ICS.
[Galaxy S II General] :
I love to read this thread. This conversation. Guys who makes my day. Well this is how i wait for jb. Reading your conversations :p

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[Galaxy S II General] hlubepet:
is codeworkx monitoring this thread? :D
[Galaxy S II General] bombaybadboy:
I had planned to try just didn't no if possible yet. Thanks for that, think that's one of the coolest show off apps you can get :D
[Galaxy S II General] switchgott:
@is codeworkx monitoring this thread?

I hope not!!
[Galaxy S II General] TheSniperFan:
No, just no.

Get your facts right. Google/Android NEVER supported flash. Adobe supported Android. That's a huge difference, because it means that whether flash works or nor, Adobe will neither care nor fix the problems.

(FYI flash works just fine on CM10.)
[Galaxy S II General] rajarshi10:
People were complaining about late updates, well.... now Galaxy S2 is getting 4.1.2 before Galaxy S3 :D :D

#samsungbrains
[Galaxy S II General] arovik:
What's the big deal with SGS2 getting 4.1.2 before SGS3? It's just a minor bug-fix upgrade to 4.1.1! chill!
[Galaxy S II General] :
A build number doesn't do anything except if there is some changes made that support our phones. Etc it wasn't important for LG-P500 to get 2.3.7 as it didn't give any specific features to it.

So android version 4.1.2 will be no big deal. I am happy Samsung gives us jelly bean.

With other words the build number doesn't change the fact that the 4.1.2 may be better, and having 4.1.2 when it doesn't do anything special is like having 4.1.1 with edited build prop

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[Galaxy S II General] Kakuji:
Do I miss something, did Samsung officially announced that they will give an Oficial update of JB for SGSII?

I still have that feeling that Samsung are some scumbags and won't update the International ver. of SGSII to JB :laugh:
[Galaxy S II General] hlubepet:
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[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Seriously instead if posting a really stupid question you should have at least read the last few pages of the thread.

Come on.
[Galaxy S II General] clay21:
Haha the thread title alone says it all.
[Galaxy S II General] hlubepet:
but it doesnt saying a year (#codeworkx prediction) :D :D
[Galaxy S II General] clay21:
True, but nevertheless it still states we will get official JB....:p
[Galaxy S II General] Codrea:
it's almost ready. wait for 2-3 days and hope it's already out :D