yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Photon 4G] MikeyLee:
It's not going to be a qwerty photon. Q is for Quad Core
[Motorola Photon 4G] photon4glover:
If so that maybe why its taking so long, I do believe there is a tegra 3 Lte chip in the works, I thought they said it'd be released early next year?
[Motorola Photon 4G] dsims7_2000:
No, 4thQ this year! They are working om it now with first phones in 4th! I don't do query!
[Motorola Photon 4G] photon4glover:
Sorry http://m.engadget.com/2012/05/12/nvidia-confirms-no-project-grey-until-2013/ well maybe http://thedroidguy.com/2012/06/fujitsu-arrows-x-first-tegra-3-powered-lte-connected-smartphone-in-japan/
[Motorola Photon 4G] DaftDev:
Looks like the Photon Q has reached the FCC...

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/03/motorola-photon-q-lte-fcc/
[Motorola Photon 4G] badgett:
I like the Photon the way it is. No keyboard needed.
[Motorola Photon 4G] deciplesteve:
Could not be more wrong.
[Motorola Photon 4G] perrotype3:
I have my upgrade in october hope its out by then i like keyboard phone. What i dont like about all touch screen phone is when type the keyboard takes up half the screen
[Motorola Photon 4G] craby1925:
Honestly january/febuary 2013, im gonna look at all the current sprint lte phones, and pick. But i have no bias towards a moto phone.
[Motorola Photon 4G] olegfusion:
very interesting. I sold my photon for droid 4, waiting droid 4 now. Because of qwerty.

I'll look if the photon will go with qwerty, but I don't want to buy tegra 3 since moto doesn't like to support nvidia devices as good as we want.
[Motorola Photon 4G] A2CKilla:
[YOUTUBE]gvdf5n-zI14&hd=1[/YOUTUBE]
[Motorola Photon 4G] xopher.hunter:
Dead link
[Motorola Photon 4G] olegfusion:
more news, but it's called somehow atrix hd.

http://news.yahoo.com/motorola-atrix-hd-unveiled-4-5-inch-display-010008087.html
[Motorola Photon 4G] halfdriven:
thats a different phone.
[Motorola Photon 4G] TirithXiato:
did you actually read that article? AT&T, no qwerty... Didn't sound like the neo-photon to me,
[Motorola Photon 4G] mxmarcus:
I have a year to go but I cannot stand the horrible data with Sprint these days.

I closed one line and 3 to go. The next is this Monday when i pick up Galaxy Note
[HTC Sensation] DonDizzurp:
NICE!
[HTC Sensation] shahkam:
Really nice job there but badass governor is missing :-)

Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] marseillesw:
Very informative, thanks..could u also add a description for the new pegasus governor

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[HTC Sensation] :
I'll put to work :)
[HTC Sensation] kingston73:
Where does bricked kernels badass fit in? What is it most similar to?
[HTC Sensation] Svegetto:
This was a good read, thanks for taking the time to write it up
[HTC Sensation] :
perhaps because the translator, but I can not understand the question
[HTC Sensation] kingston73:
Show-p's bricked kernel has a governer called "badass" and I wanted to know which kernel is most like his?
[HTC Sensation] :
I put badass to the list so you can compare and see which governor is right for you;)
[HTC Sensation] julio_rdz:
thanks for the explanations, i was confused about what governor to choose and what each one did, but this explains everything in one place well done!
[HTC Sensation] :
thanks, I'm glad this is useful for users :)
[HTC Sensation] Ace42:
There are waaay to many governors(incl custom), many actually aren't even significantly different from another. If you ask me I say all we need is conservative, ondemand, and not performance(pointless+battery rape). Although I don't mind the x versions of the ones I listed, but that's just b/c I like the x nomenclature.
[HTC Sensation] Jinji1:
Excellent explanation!

Thank you very much!!
[HTC Sensation] The Archangel:
Anyone know a mod to keep my device cool-er while on badass

@OP great job on the explanation extremely useful.
[HTC Sensation] ganeshp:
reflash the kernel using the below settings

keep 2d and 3d to default (most of the heating issues comes from gpu overclocks) and freq to default

also use battery saver configuration (it handles cpu freq transitions) (its not laggy btw)

on the contrary you can use iba's badass mod's but they are told to be placebo's (by the badass dev itself)
[HTC Sensation] :
You can also use this mod, it works great :http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1641605
[HTC Sensation] :
Several requests by, before long new incoming governor
[HTC Sensation] slopra:
Can you find an explanation for, and include, the wheatley governor please?
[HTC Sensation] :
I'm also working on it, just realized the work I insert:)
[HTC Sensation] :
added intelliactive governor
[HTC Sensation] mn147:
great post thanks

LG G2 L-01F with tapatalk pro
[HTC Sensation] dumpy83:
I am wondering if the different governors work better with certain i/o schedulers and if anyone would know which ones play nice together
[HTC Sensation] pabbles:
Thanks for explaining each of them.
[HTC Sensation] siddhu2199:
Thanks for explaining governors.... Can you please add adaptive...
[HTC Sensation] :
hi, I see these days if I can add.
[HTC Sensation] mn147:
is there any info on 'nightmare' governor? could you please add it. also, 'hyper' and 'ondemandplus' or is it the same as 'ondemandx'?

LG G2 L-01F with tapatalk pro
[HTC Sensation] Fakhri 19:
Nice Info, man!!

but i prefer Ondemand than the other governors ;)
[HTC Sensation] :
added Adaptive governor
[HTC Sensation] xperia_bird:
Thanks for this !
[HTC Sensation] fakhruddin.razi:
Can you please which governor is best for battery backup In RR ROM 5.1.0 with nebula kernel?
[HTC Sensation] :
OP update, with the addition of two governors.
[HTC Sensation] 4aces:
Very Good

That is a very good thread if not one of the best threads I read so far. Thanks OP for the awesome explanation:good:
[HTC Sensation] demoncamber:
@stempox could we get this updated with darkness governor??? I have no idea what it is based on or what they are for!
[HTC Sensation] :
ok man, I'll see what I can do.
[HTC Sensation] sakiszzr:
Nice Info,thanx!!
[HTC Sensation] M@X!:
Which combination is the most powersaving one? Maybe 2 on ondemand and 2 on powersave?
[HTC Sensation] acerdroid:
Thanks op for all the info it's very helpful wish I saw it 6 hours ago when I was searching all over Google. Now if only whe had the io schedulers in the same place not just the old ones but new ones to that would be perfect..... hint.....hint.... Ps rated 5 stars
[HTC Sensation] NitrousBurner:
Thx for useful info. I gonna use these info when I get a custom kernel soon.
[HTC Sensation] :
hi, thank you. these days also will update the thread scheduler.
[HTC Sensation] h46it:
This is great thread!
[HTC Sensation] :
added link to OP, the thread scheduler info.
[HTC Sensation] somexdalurker:
Even if it was originally a repost, this is where I found it and it's useful, so thank you.
[HTC Sensation] cableghost:
When on JB, I had 4 governors, including 'powersave'. However, when I updated my OS to Kitkat, I lost 'powersave'. Is this to say KK can't read all the governors available?
[HTC Sensation] rzr86:
probably it is not added to the kernel of the specific rom

it has to be written on it first
[HTC Sensation] ~M☆tis~:
Thanks for this great thread!

Which scheduler do you guys think is best with intellidemand governor? Trying to find a ballance between battery and performance :)
[HTC Sensation] coldgin_:
hi, for the balance you're looking for I recommend "sioplus" if you have it available in your kernel. For better performance you'd set iostats = 0

regards.
[HTC Sensation] ~M☆tis~:
Don't have sioplus :/ should I just set sio? And should I use the same scheduler for externalSD?

Thanks for your help :)
[HTC Sensation] coldgin_:
Yes you can. Just set read ahead buffer size = 1024 (at least, but 2048 max) , and writes_starved = 1. Remember iostats = 0

Hope it helps!!
[HTC Sensation] ~M☆tis~:
Thanks a lot!!

But there's one last thing (sorry if I'm asking too many questions).

I'm using synapse and it looks like this. What should I do based on what you said?

Again thanks for your help!
[HTC Sensation] coldgin_:
Hi,

uncheck I/O stats (this will set iostats to zero) and set swapiness to 10

Hope this helps!
[HTC Sensation] 0902135377:
Good !

A good topic, thanks about it. I am using Kcontrol a very good control your CPU frequency application. This apk can fully control all threads of your Cpu. it's awesome !
[HTC Sensation] aaanadie:
Hi,

Cannot found details for intellimm (intelliminmax) governor).

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] SaschaKH:
Yeah it's probably to new, I think it's from faux123 (hope that was right). Would be interested in it myself.

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[HTC Sensation] aaanadie:
yes, from faux123, I have it on my illusion rom of LG G3 D581
[HTC Sensation] Saber:
For all information about CPU governors, please visit my website: www.androidmodguide.blogspot.com. This guide is outdated though (doesn't have all of the CPU governors) but that doesn't mean it isn't important (we, including the OP, spend lots of time gathering information about anything).
[HTC Sensation] Uday Hegde:
Great imformation..
[HTC Sensation] AlfaM03:
Hi anybody know what the best governor is for the battery drain of the Exynos 9810 of S9, S9+ and Note 9? Thank you
[HTC Sensation] kykint:
Thanks to EAS schedutil is your only option. Don't even bother to try other governors.
[HTC Sensation] dr3amsINdigital:
Thanks for the post, very informative!
[HTC Sensation] :
thanks mate, I arrived at the upper limit of tanks :)
[HTC Sensation] sly.cooper:
Thanks for the explanation. How do you change the governor after installation? I had seen it during the install process but not sure how to use a different one later on.
[HTC Sensation] :
just download from the market system tuner or no frills cpu.

the first is very complete and manage various things, the second less frills but very good.

:)
[HTC Sensation] :
Wheatley added
[HTC Sensation] Duckie92:
Thanks a lot!
[HTC Sensation] :
thread updated
[HTC Sensation] mike2nl:
Good to see this here too, but your LINKS in the first posting are not working.

Please update them to give the dev's the right honor :cyclops:
[HTC Sensation] :
I will see if I can atrovare new connection, however, this version is implemented by my own hand with new additions :)
[HTC Sensation] :
24: Lulzactive added
[HTC Sensation] SiRyuA:
Thank you!

Thank you!:good::good:
[HTC Sensation] :
24:Lulzactive added
[HTC Sensation] :
thanks to you that you appreciate:)
[HTC Sensation] c4capricorn:
Well explained...Thanks man
[HTC Sensation] :
thanks,You're very kind :)
[HTC Sensation] blonde90:
Thank you
[HTC Sensation] alfredkhchung:
Very useful information :good:

Thanks mate~!
[HTC Sensation] melo563:
could you add Pegasusq as that is what I am using and it works great

It is for multi core phones originally for quad core phone's and is from Intel
[HTC Sensation] :
Hello, I see if I can get these days:)
[HTC Sensation] :
added Pegasusq/Pegasusd :)
[HTC Sensation] Moh Kohn:
Thank you for this, great info.
[HTC Sensation] vettegofast:
IFL
[HTC Sensation] jsjjcky:
thank you so much for these!
[HTC Sensation] darkriftx:
This is an excellent explanation of the cpu governors. Thank you so much for the post.
[HTC Sensation] vettegofast:
Just to clarify, these governors are through cyanogenmod or setCPU?
[HTC Sensation] :
with CyanogenMod you already have the option to change the governor without any additional applications, while other Rom who do not have these options you can use different applications available in the market to change governor for example: set cpu, system tuners, no frills cpu, etc.
[HTC Sensation] :
Thanks to you guys, very nice :)
[HTC Sensation] :
for info scheduler, go here:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1817847
[HTC Sensation] christianxin:
thanks for the detail . but i still a little confuse. for example . when i do a lot of web .browser which one is best better battery ? i mean no lag . ondemand and smartass and interactive . inter is more performance but it save more battery when muti load. so is browser web one by one belong to muti ? if yes interactive save the most because it down the frequence slower . am i understand ing right ?
[HTC Sensation] vettegofast:
i use no lag. I unplug the phone at 5:30 am and use it moderately for voice calls, web browsing, and games. I still had 18% left at 11:00pm last night. Also, i use juice defender and lower screen brightness.
[HTC Sensation] :
Hello, have you ever tried intellidemand?
[HTC Sensation] :
added Hotplugx and AbissPlug
[HTC Sensation] blonde90:
Thanks great guide
[HTC Sensation] :
thank you:)
[HTC Sensation] Hackerlacka:
Good explained!

Intresting, thanks alot. I will be trying conservative instead of ondemand to see if I notice any change in the battery life/performance. I hope on good results.
[HTC Sensation] wi1dfl0wer:
Best comprehensive list I have seen. Thanks so much!
[HTC Sensation] alphaz1:
thank you for this useful explanation. i just wonder is there a way to install governors? i want to use smartassv2 on sebastianfm's kernel.
[HTC Sensation] :
hello, ask sebastian what do you think:)
[HTC Sensation] MrSoulSOng:
Great job on compiling the list mate. This should help alot of people out. :thumbup:
[HTC Sensation] :
thanks man, hopefully, the goal is just what;)
[HTC Sensation] zcink:
Wow, great, thanks.

I'm going to print out post #1 so I can study it a little better. Right now I've it set to Lionheart (causes it sounded good), had no idea what it did until now.
[HTC Sensation] dragonOL2:
Thanx a lot for this... Helping to get myself educated

Cheers
[HTC Sensation] :
thanks to you guys, too kind:)
[HTC Sensation] Pwnzor7:
+1! Didn't know anything about governors when I root my phone. Thanks!:thumbup:
[HTC Sensation] restralla:
Thank you, very much.

Tapatalkeando...
[HTC Sensation] Sage:
great write up - you should add a poll to see what governor people are using :)
[HTC Sensation] Deathsongx3:
Thanks for this :D always have been using the default governor (ondemand). And always thought my battery problem when opening and exiting apps was my phone problem. Finally understand.
[HTC Sensation] Omertron:
Thanks for posting this, I was looking for information on the governers and which I should choose for my new CM10 ROm
[HTC Sensation] :
thanks to you guys, my pleasure that is to your liking
[HTC Sensation] Shaqee:
Thank's for a brilliant explanation! :) It's now more easier to choose the governor when first time installing rom or kernel. :)
[HTC Sensation] viscocho13:
I have. Question for you are you using the default 1520mah battery or your using a new one. Also if your are using the default battery can you please tell me how you set up the governers and the cpu changes you pick during the installation of your rom. Thank you for your time.
[HTC Sensation] :
hello to change the governors of the kernel just go playstore, and download applications as system tuner, no frills cpu, set cpu and from there you can set the governor more congenial to your needs
[HTC Sensation] alphaz1:
i read in anthrax forum smartassv2 is buggy, only support single core and forces that core to full speed, while the other core is turned off.
[HTC Sensation] :
true, smartass v2 is only suitable for single core :)
[HTC Sensation] thephoenicians:
i agree with this, i tend to lean on governors that are similar to ondemand since it works the best. I don't really like the lag sometimes associated with badassssss.
[HTC Sensation] :
this week update the thread and also insert poll.
[HTC Sensation] davewilliam:
Great write up, thanks!
[HTC Sensation] :
governor added: MSM DCVS
[HTC Sensation] rzr86:
i'm waiting for this poll too:good::cool:
[HTC Sensation] remus82:
Any word of adaptive governor? Couldnt find a hint of it around
[HTC Sensation] :
comes the poll :)
[HTC Sensation] :
hello, I did not understand the question.
[HTC Sensation] remus82:
Do you have a description for adaptive governor :)
[HTC Sensation] :
ok got it. I'll see what I can do.

:)
[HTC Sensation] jamesro1208:
Thanks a lot for this! This is awesome to have. Always wondered the differences between all of the governors. Not any more!!
[HTC Sensation] krzych:
This really shouldnt be here (in the Sensation forums) - it's a global knowledge, mod should move it to the Android Development general ones. And it's a very good idea of making good tutorials of general usage, not rom-related.

By the way, is there any tutorial how to get governors installed or something? I suppose those are kernel modules, but as far as I can tell, it could be customised even from other kernels? (not sure though) And where get them from? :)

Same about gui's - could be good to make a tutorial for noob's where to get, how to set up, how to test and so on.

But that are only ideas :)
[HTC Sensation] PopaStefanx:
Best guide for CPU governors, i always use ondemand governor is the best.
[HTC Sensation] syntax_gosong:
Really good reference for me and for all of xda member.... thanks for share....
[HTC Sensation] :
Try setcpu if on a stock rom
[HTC Sensation] zen888:
thanks you. :good:
[HTC Sensation] tarryl:
Just came here to see what badass governor meant, I was not disappoint.

Sent from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] vickfred:
Thanks for the great article! Governors were so unclear untill now, thanks to you, this has changed!
[HTC Sensation] dragonOL2:
Any info available on the "hyper" governor?

TIA...
[HTC Sensation] :
Hello, I see this week if I can do something
[HTC Sensation] ed3nsect:
Badass gov, the best I've ever used :)
[HTC Sensation] Rafiq07:
Informative

Very informative. Thanks for sharing
[HTC Sensation] Shamestick:
I was just curious if different governors work better with different kernels, in particular devil 1.7.5? I used smartassv2 with devil 1.6.1 but i didn't if there was somethng better for 1.7.5
[HTC Sensation] :
hello, in theory if it is an evolution of the same kernel there should be no differences
[HTC Sensation] syaoran68:
wrong place! good info though lols
[HTC Sensation] slobo2712:
can someone explane me what is i/o scheduler ?
[HTC Sensation] :
hello, go here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1817847 and find all the info needed
[HTC Sensation] 7OOKA:
great thread and excellent way of explanation, fantastic effort exactly what i've been looking for

BIG THANKS
[HTC Sensation] rod555:
good info,thx!
[HTC Sensation] blonde90:
many thanks man :)
[HTC Sensation] zerno:
'hybrid' governor

Guys who can plz tell me what is that 'hybrid' governor? (MTk6577, Mobistel Cynus T1)
[HTC Sensation] :
can you tell me which kernel is provided with this governor ?
[HTC Sensation] zerno:
I have this info:

Kernel

Linux version 3.0.13 (shaobai@shaobai-OptiPlex-990) (gcc version 4.4.3 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Sep 6 18:08:51 CST 2012

I haven't modified it somehow, it is out-of-the-box..

Maybe this info is also needed:

Board: tinnoes77_s9050

Product: tinnoes77_s9050

Model: Cynus T1

Device: tinnoes77_s9050

Build: ALPS.ICS2.6577.SP.V1

alps/tinnoes77_s9050/tinnoes77_s9050:4.0.4/IMM76D/1346926144:user/release-keys

Manufacturer: alps

Brand: alps

CPU ABI: armeabi-v7a
[HTC Sensation] :
ok man, see what I can do
[HTC Sensation] zerno:
Hey, man, any results already?

Отправлено с моего Cynus T1 через Tapatalk
[HTC Sensation] :
hello, sorry but at this time I was very busy with my work, by this weekend you post some information :)
[HTC Sensation] zerno:
It is all okay) Anyway, it isn't urgent need for me to know this governor, I'd better name it 'curiosity' :)

Отправлено с моего Cynus T1 через Tapatalk
[HTC Sensation] kamilmirza:
very nice!!! :good:

thank you!!! :o
[HTC Sensation] XeloOw:
Thanks you good job :)

Envoyé depuis mon HTC Sensation Z710e avec Tapatalk
[HTC Sensation] Robertzian:
Thanks, good info.
[HTC Sensation] austrie:
Badass vs Intellidemand vs Lag free? They all seem similar, mostly badass and intellidemand.
[HTC Sensation] :
What do you mean, in the sense that they all look similar
[HTC Sensation] Sqb:
Thanks for this!
[HTC Sensation] zybach:
Nice thread.now I know each governors differences
[HTC Sensation] seb_labine:
Sick thread , nice job :)
[HTC Sensation] der_erdling:
thank you, helped me a lot :)
[HTC Sensation] aladin6:
Thank you very much for your explanation! My choice is now between lulzactive and pegasusq ;)
[HTC Sensation] nextai:
Excellent performance intellidemand tweaks

Hi, I am using faux123's kernel with intellidemand governor tweaked to my needs. I can safely say that for the smoothest user experience (in UI, 3d and 2d gaming) the following settings (use SetCPU to rapidly tweak them) are among the best:

up_threshold: 90

down_differential: 3

sampling_down_factor: 4

ignore_nice_load: 0

powersave_bias: 0

io_is_busy: 1

two_phase_freq: 1080000

lmf_browser: 1

lmf_active_max_freq: 1728000

lmf_inactive_max_freq: 918000

lmf_active_load: 95

lmf_inactive_load: 50

I've emphasized with bold above the settings which I altered (the others were Faux's defaults). The min CPUfreq is set to 192 while the max is set to 1728000. 3D GPU is overclocked to 300Mhz and 2D is left at default (200 I believe).

Now, here comes the question: does anyone know the exact or approximate intellidemand algorithm ? (how the CPU/GPU frequencies are ramped up/down depending on the above params)

Also, does anyone know exactly what lmf_active_load and lmf_inactive_load mean ? What I could observe from configuring these two parameters as above was frequency stability (much less frequency hopping and no ramp-up to 1728000 with normal usage) and dramatically higher framerates in Asphalt 7 and GTA3 10-Year (I had the exact same frequencies configured, but with lmf_active_load and lmf_inactive_load set to default I had noticeably lower framerates).

With these settings, the battery life seems actually better while the best performance is given when needed.

Thanks !

nextai.
[HTC Sensation] xXXschokiXXx:
Nice , THX
[HTC Sensation] freedom74:
Very useful thread. Thank you! :good:

One question tough... How to detrmine which CPU governors are supported by Kernel?

If I use SetCPU is what he offering is what is supported?

Thanks again for gathering this info on one place.
[HTC Sensation] jonathan_phang:
Thanks for the interesting read. Good to know the differences so I'm able to pick a good balanced on to save battery life.
[HTC Sensation] :
hi, of course, from applications such as set cpu you can see and choose which governors contains that particular kernel.
[HTC Sensation] guedeshot:
Very useful! Thank you very much!

Very interesting read, Stempox. Good to learn about the differences between governors.

I have an GalaxyS I9000 B ( from Brazil) with Chipset	Hummingbird, my CPU is 1 GHz armv7 processor rev 2 ( v7l) and my GPU is PowerVR SGX540 originally. My Rom actually is helly Bean 4.2.2 with hellybean kernel and i`m trying to have a smooth experience associated with the best batery performance i could set up.

Which governor do you think is best for me? Reading this article I change the set up stock (ondemand) to lulzactive but maybe another one could be better, like wheatley , lagfree, lazy or smartass V2. All of them possible for mine but remembering that is a single core mobile.

I was reading also about i/o scheduler and until now it is set up to SIO (stock) and i changed the min/max frequency to 100/800 in order to conserve the battery.

If you could help me it wiil be very apreciate. Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english. ;)
[HTC Sensation] :
hi, with my personal experience with single core, I've always had good results with the governor, smartass-smartass v2 and CFQ scheduler, if it is not present, is also good SIO.

good compromise between speed of the phone, and battery life.