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[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] SoonerLater:
Do you not ever install content by WIFI? I use WIFI File Explorer all the time to move files back and forth from my Android devices. It's unclear to me how using an SD card to move data in/out of and Android device would be a better alternative to WIFI? I mean, even if you're not near your computer as you say, how are you going to get data (that is destined for the Nook) onto the SD card to begin with if you don't a computer nearby? And if it's data to be taken off the Nook, how does putting it on an SD card help until you're "near your computer." Confused. Not trying to be a smartass. Just confused.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Keithn:
I'm primarily on CM7, I'm not too set on whether it's deemed alpha, beta, or whatever. As long as every thing I use it for works I can always modify certain things to make it how I want with, themes, launchers, build.prop tweaks etc. I've tested the 3.0 kernel CM9 and as soon as it's more stable I'll be on that.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] doctahjeph:
If you have never owned a Nexus device you wouldn't understand. I will never buy another non nexus phone, and after today (just put in my preorder) I will never buy another non nexus tablet. I with all the cloud services out there I have no use for expandable memory. The day jelly bean is released there will be several users pleading developers to port it to their devices. With a Nexus device you won't have that problem.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] old_fart:
am i the first to mention there are two 'nexus 7's, a kindle ( nook too ) buster at $199 and then there is the improved model for fifty dollars more that has extra stuff. Hmm, what do you get for fifty bucks ?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Cubanluke88:
An extra 8GB internal storage.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] old_fart:
Wow, that is an expensive bit of memory.

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Found a list :

Back-lit IPS display

Scratch-resistant Corning glass

1.2MP front-facing camera

WEIGHT 340 grams

8 or 16 GB internal storage

1 GB RAM

4325 mAh (Up to 8 hours of active use)

Quad-core Tegra 3 processor

12 Core GeForce GPU

198.5 x 120 x 10.45mm

WiFi 802.11 b/g/n

Bluetooth

Micro USB

Microphone

NFC (Android Beam)

Accelerometer

GPS

Magnetometer

Gyroscope

Black or White color

.

and no micro SD memory slot... No buttons... How is XDA going to crack it ?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] dalkor:
I was waiting for a Nexus 7 announcement , because I like 7-inchers and because I'm sick and tired of CM7 phone UI layout( even with all tweaks it's still too phone-ish).

And what I see? Nexus 7 runs Jelly Bean with pure phone layout, though device is constantly called "tablet", WTF?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] mhworley:
I'm there with ya! See ya nook! it's already listed on eBay! For a moment the SD card slot was in question, but with all the cloud storage and unlimited 4g data and tethering on my phone, I wont need the extra storage.

It's been a fun 6 months, but really I'm done with the hassle.

But I want to thank all the DEVs, for their hard work, and all you that i sent donations to. Keep working hard making this stuff better for everyone!!!
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] SoonerLater:
I think that there's still a lot of confusion -- at least in

my

head -- about Jelly Bean and the Nexus 7. On one hand, I did read that the N-7 had a very phone-ish layout, but on the other hand, I read that JB is intended to be a tablet-only release. So I'm confused.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] jimmysuggs:
Well wifi works great- if you're near your computer.

If not, wifi, she no work so good. For example if I'm taking a flight, or I dunno, leaving my house even slightly, I can't exactly sync anything up with the computer and transfer data via wifi.

But with SD cards, which are tiny and cheap as hell these days, I can just dump a bunch of content on there, stick the cards in my pocket and swap them in and out of the nook as I see fit. You fill one card up with movies, fill another one up with music, etc. Without the SD card slot, what you have on your tablet is all you're GONNA have on your tablet until you're back at your computer. With SD cards you have far more options. Yeah you have to be at your computer to fill the SD cards, but that's a lot quicker and easier than constantly adding trying to remove and add content via wifi.

Also, SD cards allow you to odd more onboard storage in general. I've got a lovely 32 gig card that I use with my Nook tablet, which holds so much that I rarely have to use other SD cards (though I like having that option). The Kindle and this new Nexus tablet top out at 16, which is pretty small these day. Dump a few movies and apps on there and boom- yer done. Now if they wanna sell a 100 gig version, then maaaaaaaaaaaaybe that'd work, but in the meantime the space they offer is just too limited. And this "cloud" stuff doesn't really help, because downloading big files takes a long time and who knows if yer even gonna be near a wifi source when you need something.

Bottom line: an SD card slot just adds more options. You may not ever need it- but it's sure nice to have it.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] boomn:
Definitely not tablet only. Google has already released a JB beta for the Galaxy Nexus to IO attendees and will be releasing a finished update to the GNex and Nexus S in a few weeks
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] jdebay:
THE default browser is chrome from play store. TRIED chrome no flash support. Read some of the hand on reviews on this device nexus 7.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] SoonerLater:
I think all of your points are

valid

. All things considered, I'd always prefer a slot.

Not that it is remotely as convenient as a pocket full of SD cards, I bought a Seagate Satellite, which is a 500gb usb drive, with onboard battery power and onboard WIFI server. It will run a little over 5 hours on battery. It can stream a different movie to everyone in my family (6 people) at the same time. Every device that we own (iPhone, Droid Razr Max, Thinkpad Tablet, Nook Tablet, iPad, iPod Touch) can watch movies off the thing, whether they're in AVI, MP4 or pretty much any flavor. When we travel (nearly always by car), I leave it plugged into power and the WIFI active. It would work fine on a plane, so long as the flight isn't much over 5 hours. While it doesn't have as much content as the family NAS video library (about 2.2tb at this point), it has several hundred movies and tv shows, with something to suit everyone.

You're probably thinking, but I don't want to have another bloody device to pack, to charge, to take up space, to weigh me down and all of those criticisms are valid too. I'm just pointing out that while it's cool to have 32gb of stuff on a card, it's pretty awesome to have nearly 500gb of stuff with you wherever you are.

Note to anyone thinking of getting a Seagate Satellite

: I highly recommend buying the hacked firmware from hackseagatesatellite.com. You could do it yourself for free or you could just use Seagate's own firmware, but buying the hacked fw is fairly cheap; adds a ton of functionality; and takes just minutes to install.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] jimmysuggs:
Well said and I totally respect your choice. And the Seagate Satellite sounds like a really neat device, I'm gonna have to look into that. I'm confused though, does it create its own wireless signal or just piggyback off your wireless router or something? Not too sure how stuff like this works. Like if you took it on a plane, you'd have to use the plane's wifi to use the device, right? Or no?

Anyhow it sounds like a very cool device, though personally for someone like me, 500 gigs might be way too much. Something tells me I'd never be able to decide what movies to watch, what music to listen to, etc. This is just my own experience, of course. I find that a finite amount of content is better than unlimited. Though I would like a bit more than is currently available. Hopefully in the future we'll be able to get larger sized SD cards, or tablets will start coming with 64 gigs, like the ipad. Enough space to really bring a lot with you, but not too much to get lost among the content while trying to find something to do.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] SoonerLater:
But surely you can still install Firefox (or Dolphin, Opera, etc...) if you don't want to use Chrome. The new (two days old) FF for Android is freaking awesome, by the way. If you haven't tried it, you should.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] doctahjeph:
Running JB on my GNex now. Love it!

You are not handcuffed to the default browser. Download dolphin HD.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] SoonerLater:
The Seagate Satellite has its own WIFI server. It creates its own WIFI network. No other hardware is required. So, no, you would not use it with the plane's WIFI.

If you install the hacked firmware, you have the option to have the Satellite join an existing WIFI environment. If you do that, then your devices can access its content and access the interweb and other devices on your LAN at the same time. If you don't do that, then while your device is connected to the Satellite, your device will not be able to access anything else at the same time.

I got the Satellite because have four kids (26, 12, 10 and 7) who can't agree on watching the same movies when we drive long distances, which we do often. It's like Chevy Chase and Family Vacation (or whatever that movie was called). We load up the Family Truckster and we go all over the country. I give every kid a screen and some earbuds and then nobody has to bug anyone else.

LINK to description of Satellite on Seagate.com.

LINK to hacked firmware on hackingseagatesatellite.com.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Cubanluke88:
Its a Nexus device, not a convoluted mess produced by B&N.

It will likely require a single line to unlock:

fastboot oem unlock.

Same as for the Xoom and Galaxy Nexus (the latter of which has no sd card or physical buttons).

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As for the lack of sd card slot, I'm going to repost something I posted over on the Nexus 7 subforum:
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] SoonerLater:
I wonder what he meant by "USB OTG?" I understand the reference to USB, of course, but what is OTG? I gather that USB OTG refers, somehow, to using the USB port to pass data between the device and a USB host (your PC, probably), but beyond that I'm confused.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Cubanluke88:
on the go

I have a similar adapter I use with my Xoom to connect to thumb drives/external drives. If the device has it enabled, it allows you to mount them just like you would on your pc.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] digixmax:
I am surprised that no one has mentioned being able to run 3rd-party ROM off an SD as a benefit of having an SD slot.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Cubanluke88:
Its not really needed if your internal OS isn't horrible. People that use the sd card OS do so because the internal OS is not pure android and they either don't want to modify it or want to have both options.

Additionally, custom boot loaders are getting more common, and by extension, multi boot systems. And while I don't really see that as something a Nexus device would need, its definitely there as a possibility (I guess if you wanted to use multiple roms that had significant differences), which is the primary function of being able to boot from sd card (dual boot).

The Nook color and tablets abilities' to boot from sd is pretty cool for saving your device though. CWM sdcard is handy. Ideally though, such a thing shouldn't be necessary if you do things right (and Nexus devices make this very easy).
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] doctahjeph:
why would you want to on a Nexus device? I am curious to what 3rd party rom you would run.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] SoonerLater:
Ahhh... so even though your Xoom doesn't have a "Type A USB

host port

: like these:

that can receive a flash drive like this:

you have some sort of a cable that plugs into the Xoom at one end and has a female Type-A USB connector at the other which (together with a mod to the OS) allows your Xoom to host USB flash drives anyway?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] SoonerLater:
IIAB,DFI
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Keithn:
Booting from SD is nice on the nook to keep fully functional versions of android on it and newer builds which may lack some things. If ICS was working as well as CM7 or stock it'd be on my internal with no need for booting the SD. Also there is no need for recovery SDs when we can just boot into the bootloader and use fastboot to flash any image we might need.

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That's what having USB host allows you to do. Plug in and use USB devices similarly to if you had plugged them into a PC, for input or storage.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Cubanluke88:
Yep. I'll mount a thumb drive later when I'm home and take a picture of the Xoom with the adapter/cable and a screenshot.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] old64mb:
While the Nexus 7 has some neat toys on it, I'm planning on keeping my NT for probably another year.

Why? Because my NT pretty much does everything I need a tablet to do for now. (In contrast, I got rid of my NC because it didn't play 720p video - which for the record I obtain legally through my Tivo and convert, and which was one of my requirements for a tablet.) I read books, do light work, and watch video. It doesn't replace my laptop, but that's not what I have a tablet for.

If you sideload and don't mind doing the work to load a custom ROM and tweak it, the NT is the still the most useful of the three. If you want stock, or primarily stream, use cloud content, or get free content from Amazon, it's not.

Do I hope mod development continues for the NT? Sure. But there's a good reason why B&N went with Microsoft, because right now the Nook line running Android is toast longer term.

Near term, though? At a price point almost $100 more than the equivalent refurb NTs, not really enticing unless you game a lot or Skype.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] antonyfl:
well if anyone wants to buy mine, send me a PM! ;)
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Montisaquadeis:
There are a few cosmetic issues I have with the Nexus 7 and they are the placement of both the Front Facing Camera and the Headphone jack. The headphone jack is placed on the bottom of the device and thats a really odd spot for it as for the camera you are basically stuck using it in portrate mode and not landscape. Most people need it for landscape mode I think. Google is basically trying to sell a larger 7 inch phone with these choices.

Would I replace my fully working Nook Tablet with it at this point no but if something happened to the Nook Tablet I may look at getting the Nexus 7 as a replacement device tho.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Cubanluke88:
What's wrong with the placement of the front facing camera? I would agree with the headphone jack though. I remember reading engadget's live blog while watching the I/O and they seemed to...be happy about its location. Seem's rather dumb to me though.

As for the portrait mode dilemma, I don't know about the rest of you, but I keep my Nook Tablet running cm9 in portrait almost exclusively. Not to mention that this is a Nexus device. You can pretty much count on there being a rom with a tweak allowing you to switch between the two modes rather easily. It might even be doable with a simple launcher change.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] johninsf:
So I really want a Nexus 7. It is a "right out of the box" latest Android experience and is what I have been trying to make this Nook Tablet since I got it. However, we are not there.

With that said, the NT with CM7 is nice for how I use it. Whenever CM9 3.x is done I will flash it and pass on to a lucky one in the house. The 32gb SD card is awesome too but the lack of slot is not a deal breaker for buying the Nexus 7.

Purchasing the GSM GNexus back in April hooked me on pure Android even though I love the brilliance of this community and the kickass Roms it produces.

Sent from my Nook Tablet
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Cubanluke88:
Rooted Nexus 7 users have been able to use an app to mount thumb drives.

Not as eloquent as a microsd, but it'll do.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Floating Point:
The lack of sd card slot in nexus tab is disturbing. I use my nook just for videos, so nexus can be a outstanding piece of hardware, but since there's no card slot, I'll stick with my nook and hope the development of custom roms still continue.

Enviado de meu DROID3 usando o Tapatalk 2
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] old_fart:
Um, but what @Cubanluke88 said in the post just above yours "means" the N7 has easy access to tons of storage... Right ?

.

We'll just be thumbing it ?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Cubanluke88:
Pretty much. I need to look into it some more and see if they are using adapters or if they have microUSB thumb drives working.

If the latter is true...well damn I prefer those to sd cards. I can throw them on a keychain and not worry about losing them so easily.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] old_fart:
I didn't see any thumb drives on Amazon with micro port connectors but I saw plenty of adapters ( female to micro usb male ) for as little as a buck and a half.

http://www.amazon.com/T-Flash-Adapt...46898&sr=1-10&keywords=thumb+drive+micro+port

.

Hey, another solution would be these usb card readers too ( four and a half stars )

http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-micr...47700&sr=1-2&keywords=thumb+drive+card+reader
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] cubfan80:
Well... I just pre-ordered the Nexus 7. I'll probably give my Nook to my mom since I've been screaming at her to get with the times and put the paperbacks down.

FYI J&R has the Nexus for $15 off using the promo code July4! FREE SHIPPING. I got the 16gb for $234, no tax.

Here is the link:

http://www.jr.com/order/basket.jsp?...Hash=0a2ace30df7d42028f38788bbc64e14d7ffee550

Update: About 2 hours later the link has been pulled, says ASUS NEXUS7 Jelly Bean Android Tablet is not available for purchase at this time. I'm going to have to call them tomorrow and see if my order will be honored. (got an email confirmation)
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] TheForceUnleashed:
I just got my Nexus 7. Cool little device, fits perfectly with my Nexus phone. The thing that gets me is that it uses Phone-UI instead of the Tablet-UI.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] old_fart:
Um, pre-ordered mine a week a go. All the word out said two to three weeks and not a week ( or less ) ! . Will I have a box sitting on my door step when I get home tonight ? Oooohh !

.

Nothing on the door step. So, I'm guessing, if you "just got one", one of the conference attendees sold theirs on ebay... It's ~ two more weeks for me.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] tikrjee:
While the new hotness is definitely tempting, $250 for a fixed 16GB of storage kinda kills it for me, personally. I was really hoping they'd make that one the beat all tablet by throwing in a microSD slot, but no.

Sure, the drive and other cloud services, but the problem with those is they require guaranteed internet access. Sadly, two weeks in South Korea, the most connected country in the world, with an iPod touch taught me real quick the cloud is not dependable, as I could hope for more than a few minutes online at a time.

But, if you're not travelling, or just want a tablet to use around the house, go for it. It's pretty freakin sweet
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] old_fart:
But I read last week ( and I think I understand correctly ) that you can have all the storage you want on the N7 through the micro usb port on the bottom. On my really old ( three years old - lol ) haipad m7 running ICS, the usb lets me talk to ethernet, 3G, GPS, thumb drives, etc...
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] PlacidCat:
Hmm. Neat sounding overall. I don't like the idea of having to use an external USB device for extra memory, though - usually means a dangling dongle or jutting key, just begging to be yanked or bumped (or maybe I'm just paranoid/clumsy).

The display is a mixed bag from early reports - it *is* IPS but there appears to be image retention in several models that people have used, particularly on higher brightness settings, something I've never noticed on my Nook Tablet.

With respect to development, I'll be curious to see if this is open or not. Whenever I hear "Tegra" I get somewhat worried. I generally prefer open hardware to licensed.

That said, the caveats seem to be somewhat small for a device that has a fantastic CPU and good graphical capabilities. At the very least I'd expect this to be the catalyst for a rush of excellent low-priced devices. I'll stick with my Nook Tablet happily for now and watch the wave of great hardware with anticipation. All the better for upgrading in the future!

I'll also be anxious to hear "real-world" reports from those of you receiving your Nexus 7!
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Cubanluke88:
Its a nexus. Nexus devices are as open as devices can be.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] TheForceUnleashed:
You can root a Nexus, but it's VERY VERY similar to the stock.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Cubanluke88:
What do you mean?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] realonedet:
the microSD is not about being able to move content in and out of the device, it expands the overall memory of the device, period. if i have a 32gb card in addition to the 16GB or so thats on the device, you can do the math and see why not including a microSD slot is a deal breaker for many, including me. It just makes no sense why they would exclude it.