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[Galaxy S II General] dark79:
You're comparing two very different devices that aren't even the same generation. A better comparison is the Nexus S and the Galaxy S (i9000).

Like you said before Nexus S released with 2.3 Gingerbread and ended with 4.1.2 Jellybean. But the Galaxy S launched with 2.1 Eclair and stayed stuck at 2.3.6 Gingerbread. Didn't even get an official ICS build. Samsung's excuse? Not enough RAM. What they meant was "Not enough RAM to handle ICS AND TouchWiz". So Nexus S goes 3 updates past the i9000.

Now look at the Galaxy Nexus and SII i9100. Galaxy Nexus is currently running 4.2.1 and will most likely get 5.0. Meanwhile i9100 hasn't even gotten an official Jellybean release and will most likely stop at 4.1.2. Again, several versions behind the Nexus model of the same generation. And this is the international model. How well will the US variants get supported? Probably worse.

So while TouchWiz does bring new features to the table, it also holds back updates and limits the longevity of the device.

So yeah, maybe getting a Nexus device means running beta software, but it also means being able to run your phone for at least another year on up-to-date software.

That said, I still love my i9100 with the JB leak. The extra features like the wireless sharing with my TV is awesome. And this version of TouchWiz is much better than the last one.
[Galaxy S II General] Koucz87:
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...lly-Bean-4-1-2-updates-coming-on-January-2013
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
Again, that's for a CARRIER BRANDED LTE model. It is not the i9100 (this forum) or the unlocked. Typically, carrier-branded firmware comes out 2-12 weeks after the unlocked version. A December release for XEO (Poland unbranded) would mean mid-January for the first carrier branded firmware.

I'm not saying that I can prove a December release for our firmware. I'm simply saying that your post was irrelevant, because it wasn't our phone.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Anybody still arguing that Samsung sucks in terms of providing updates to their flagship devices needs to go and start using the competition. After Google, its #1 OEM to update its phones irrespective whether its a major/minor release

Back on topic , 2 weeks left for December to end and no signs of a new leak or update via KIES :(
[Galaxy S II General] Spacemonkie4207:
It's been pushed to January. Few more weeks won't hurt.
[Galaxy S II General] Koucz87:
I'm only posing some info. I also hope that update will be as soon as possible.
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
While I wouldn't be surprised for more delays, we still haven't seen any official confirmation of a January release.
[Galaxy S II General] lurker316:
The developmental lifecycle perhaps maybe the same, but the number of applicable OS updates are not on parity between the Nexus series and the Galaxy series. And the launcher features are subjective at best.
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
Huh?

Nexus One - 2.1 --> 2.2 --> 2.3 = 2 major updates

Nexus S - 2.3 --> 4.0 --> 4.1 = 2 major updates

Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4 are still supported, so let's evaluate when they hit EOL status.

Galaxy S - 2.1 --> 2.2 --> 2.3 --> 4.0 value pack = 2 or 3 major updates, depending on how you look at it

Galaxy S II - 2.3 --> 4.0 --> 4.1 = 2 major updates

Galaxy S III is still supported, we can evaluate at EOL.

In other words, you're still wrong. And there is no "perhaps". It's 18-24 months for those devices without exception. Google supports 2 concurrent devices within the same line, and Samsung does the same. And there is no "subjective" on the UI features (which are far more than just a launcher"). Touchwiz 4.0 on Android 4.1.2 supports all of the base Android 4.1.2 features, and then includes many of its own that you won't find on a Nexus.

Please, buy a Nexus. If that's what you want. You may just love it. Or, you may just come crawling back. But please, don't make things up to support your false point of view.
[Galaxy S II General] SamiTaiba:
Well it seems that jb would be a success if it got the same mods as the roms
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Youmobile seriously pissed me off. Crap reporting. It says carrier branded coming in Jan, so it must mean unlocked comes before hand. Than it says that carrier ones will come later cause the unlocked one will come in Jan.

Absolute crap reporters, can't interprete a bloody chart.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
You mobile and Christian post should be banned from earth. No idea why people even follow these websites :rolleyes:

Sent from the Matrix
[Galaxy S II General] vitoski:
Hehe chill my friend. Indeed they seem to a bunch of wired reporters:)

Eventually we will get the JB sooner or later, do not believe any crap reports or news.

It looks like every single fun site or mobile related site will publish bull****, just to have more visitors.

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[Galaxy S II General] bombaybadboy:
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[Galaxy S II General] gabboman:
This thread in a nutshell:

-buy an iphone

-fac u zanzum i wana 4.3

-samsung is good

-samsung is bad

-jelly bean today

-jelly bean @2030

And I am here, waiting for someone that post the link...

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[Galaxy S II General] webjunky:
this is a Discussion thread about XXLSJ

not about Samsung is bad or good nore about apple or any other crap
[Galaxy S II General] keithkii:
interesting conversation... leave a footprint here~:D
[Galaxy S II General] android.racer:
I wrote to sammobile and now they are saying December / January too. :D
[Galaxy S II General] xuantruongit0389:
I Want Samsung update Jellybean this week .
[Galaxy S II General] rajarshi10:
Jellybean to come in January. That's my prediction cause I don't see Samsung releasing it during the holiday season when people will buy the S3 & the Note 2.
[Galaxy S II General] egps2:
I'm scared you've raised an important point! Impatient people with money to burn will be happy to buy a new phone for the OS who might have prolonged the purchase with an update. If Samsung does delay the update then they might gain a few more sales and then release the update for those who are either happy to keep using thier phone or can;t afford to update yet. Luckily I am happy with the performance of the recent 4.0.4 roms but if we were stuck on GB then things might have been different!
[Galaxy S II General] dwurkx:
Hope they can get the issues in the leaked version fixed up completely before this "Jan" release date. As a side note JellyBean is a real bane to developers due to the restrictions imposed. The new version of the SDK also does no favours.
[Galaxy S II General] chomsky101:
cyanogenmod 10,1 is out

download.cyanogenmod. com
[Galaxy S II General] JoHnNy08PL:
Samsung Updates no, update is ready and final test are being made. should be pushedthis week

3 minutes ago
[Galaxy S II General] nickmax1:
source?
[Galaxy S II General] JoHnNy08PL:
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungUpdates/posts/419402944800357
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
According to our 'friends' at SamUpdates, the reason for the delay was due to security flaws. Rolling out this week apparently.
[Galaxy S II General] drraptor:
I don't trust Samsung updates anymore. Sammobile is much more trusted source
[Galaxy S II General] rajarshi10:
Don't trust that website. Don't trust anybody. Live your life & be pleasantly surprised when the update is out. You already have a leak so there's nothing new in a stable firmware other than bugs fixed :p
[Galaxy S II General] Denny966:
This made my day^^
[Galaxy S II General] d1rX:
Gotta love "news" from a fanboy site. First it was to be leaked Monday with screams and shouts, now it's postponed cause of alleged exploit. Couldn't figure that out myself :good:
[Galaxy S II General] burtallicus:
exactly what i said :))

lets see how samsung suport will be from now on since Nexus is not in the same boat
[Galaxy S II General] j510:
Finally
[Galaxy S II General] gabboman:
what?
[Galaxy S II General] j510:
Getting back on topic
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Damn, when I refreshed tapatalk, I saw 'finally' and I thought it had arrived...

Why do this to me?! :eek:
[Galaxy S II General] edgarson:
Still no jb ? Wow, what a surprise!
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
...... And this thread goes on :D

Sent from the Matrix
[Galaxy S II General] Riskytwin:
Samsung Updates*LS8 modem for LSR
[Galaxy S II General] hazwheel:
LSR?
[Galaxy S II General] Riskytwin:
LSQ -> LSR (I9100XXLSR) is presumably the official new coming JB 4.1.2
[Galaxy S II General] mammenj:
Don't expect it too soon, as they have to fix the new found vulnerability :(
[Galaxy S II General] cpl.Bower:
how about if they already have the final release but with vulnerability active? :p
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
What do you mean by Nexus not being in the same boat? If you mean in terms of hardware, only the Nexus S and original Galaxy S shared similar hardware. The Galaxy Nexus and the Galaxy S II has completely different hardware.
[Galaxy S II General] nickmax1:
My god there are some nervous nellies on this forum. What is the point of getting an incomplete version. You will all just complain about how Samsung could release such a buggy final and complain bitterly on these threads asking when the next update is out.

Everyone just chill the release will be out when it's ready. Oh and if you think it will be final final you would be wrong. I am sure there will be several small updates of the final to come after that.
[Galaxy S II General] captain67:
Running the leaked 4.1.2 ROM now. It is so smooth! And my battery life is amazing. Getting the same if not better battery use compared to CM10 with a heavily tweaked Siyah. Except since this isn't tweaked for battery life, and the performance is much higher.
[Galaxy S II General] sosodemi:
South Africa 4.0.3 I9100XWLP7 come on JellyBean
[Galaxy S II General] ssanyi:
Still the same in Hungary (near to the famous Poland)
[Galaxy S II General] mayekk:
GALAXY S2 and GALAXY Note Jelly Bean 4.1.2 updates coming on January

http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Samsung-GALAXY-S2-and-GALAXY-Note-Jelly-Bean-4-1-2-updates-coming-on-January-2013
[Galaxy S II General] vitoski:
@up

WOW!!!

Thx for the ****ty old news. Did you have a time to read a couple of pages before posting this useless information.

PEOPLE READ... BEFORE YOU POST

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[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Thanks man, you just saved me from having to have a rant at him.
[Galaxy S II General] KuNgZi:
FAKE
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Maybe SamUpdates is right, this is probably why our update is getting delayed.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-will-internally-review-Exynos-exploit_id37771
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Coincidence much?

The Exynos kernel vulnerability news just broke yesterday and rumor of delay of JB update due to last minute security flaw was pure speculation ;)

Sent from the Matrix
[Galaxy S II General] mrachni:
News: 18 December 2012 11:44

http://www.sammobile.com/2012/12/18/android-4-1-2-updates-galaxy-s-ii-delayed/

https://twitter.com/SamMobiles/status/280987325364842496

"We expect to see the first Jelly Bean updates for the Galaxy S II sadly in 2013." :(
[Galaxy S II General] Amaj7:
del
[Galaxy S II General] rajarshi10:
S2 delayed for 2013. Now I'm waiting for S4, wont update even if JB is released :silly:

SHAME ON YOU SAMSUNG!
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
Well, that was to be expected.
[Galaxy S II General] mrachni:
I`m so fast :)
[Galaxy S II General] vitoski:
Let me put some words of comment. I would not believe any information from SamMobile, Samsung Updates, Youmobile etc. any more.

As SamMobile said they were relying on Samsung Sweden... What it means to us...? Nothing!

There are Samsung Sweden, Poland, UK, Germany, Finland and many others...

Since every single branch can share its information, there may not be truth at all.

One last ****ty thing from me... Yesterday I talked with guy on Customer Service in Poland and according to his info the JB was already released in UK and France at December 11 for Samsung i9000GT international. However he did not have any details about method it was released and can be accessed (Kies, OTA).

I tried to verify that with Customer Service in UK directly, but no answer from their side since yesterday.

So again. My revelations are worth exactly the same as SamMobile or any other fun site:(

Unless Samsung will write official comment on their site I will not believe any speculations about release date. They (fun pages) can do it over and over again - speculate that it will be available till the end of the week, but when it comes to the end, they will postpone it for Monday, because the wife of CEO of the Samsung got pregnant (put your own reason here if you don't like it).

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[Galaxy S II General] iozzo:
Ah well, at least now we now and can stop hitting refresh on xda and samobile
[Galaxy S II General] aveenhuysen:
End the end of the world is this Friday...............so if you want to try it get the leaked version till Friday :)
[Galaxy S II General] edgarson:
S III is getting another update even with the bug not fixed, but S II isn't ? This must be some kind of ****in joke! INsane chips, exynos security issues, sloppy updates, good bye ****sung, nexus 4, here I come.
[Galaxy S II General] rajarshi10:
Everyone should move to Nexus. If you're here for updates don't buy any other phone than Nexus.
[Galaxy S II General] edgarson:
Not only updates, insane chip and security issues with exynos are also unacceptable or even more.
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Sigh.

Confirmed for January now. Bring on the hate.
[Galaxy S II General] jgcaap:
So... Anyone here thinks Samsung is like Apple but the cheap material kind? I have already said myself I won't buy another Samsung product with such quality... Next time will be an HTC
[Galaxy S II General] egps2:
Just completely ignore it and be pleasantly surprised in 2013 when the rom comes out! My biggest fear is that Samsung decides that they should wait till after the S4 in case S2 owners on JB feel that they don't need an S3/4 if they already have JB! Just like I'm starting to think that they are intentionally waiting for after xmas for the tiny percentage of people who would upgrade just to get JB sooner. I hope I'm wrong and we get KB tomorrow though! :D
[Galaxy S II General] edgarson:
What's so pleasant about that ?
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
No. You must be joking. HTC are worse.

Apart from Nexus, Samsung is actually the next best to updates.
[Galaxy S II General] rajarshi10:
First November, then December & now January. This is more pissing off. Give an exact date & tell people to wait. That's how it should be.
[Galaxy S II General] mudabir:
i m from htc they fu*ked the desire update then desire hd and now sensation see their forums for update list
[Galaxy S II General] edgarson:
Exacly.

Don't forget about those insane chips and the recent exynos security issue. I've not heard such stuff from other phone manufacturers.
[Galaxy S II General] jgcaap:
At quality construction they are the best on the market
[Galaxy S II General] dong2007:
Maybe, because the i9100G use another kernel, than i9100
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Well, you clearly haven't seen HTC... My old Desire S was promised ICS in June, it came at the end of August.

One S hasnt even got JB yet. HTC phones rarely get sense updates, we are getting a brand new UI.

Correct

True, but isn't this thread about software updates, not build quality?
[Galaxy S II General] J_The_Nerd:
not shocked but disappointed

First November then Q4 (December) now January, seems more of an official announcement this time though as many websites are reporting it probably to make people get new phones for Christmas. Still at least the update is coming (another leak would be nice though) Hopefully will get a few months out of JB til the S4 or nexus 5 (whatever it'll be called) the s2 has been good to me though it came with GB 2.3 got 2.3.6 then ICS 4.0.3 & 4.0.4 and will bow out with JB (with hopefully fully working project butter) :D
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Pocketnow

http://m.pocketnow.com/2012/12/18/sgs2-sgn-jelly-bean-2013
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
Their source is sammobile :)
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
How is SamMobile 100% sure this is what Samsung are going to do? It may just be an assumption, which is bloody hope is the case!
[Galaxy S II General] rajarshi10:
Sammobile is right in most cases. I don't think I've seen them giving any wrong info about firmwares in a long while.
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Argh, such a shame. Contemplating on just making the jump to CM10.1, but I'm not sure...

Already running it on my tablet and Desire S, so I don't know if its worth it. It will be twice as fast on my S2 though cause the hardware is superior.

Did the source code help the CM team in fixing project butter?
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
Assumptions (which i think and hope the news came from) are not 100% accurate. They just guess based on the given circumstances (sometimes from their source(?), even that won't guarantee a home run). Since it's not their (sammobile) fault that the release was delayed, I'll still give them a chance:) I personally can wait (even though my mouth is watering for some jellybean love:D) as long as my patience tells me to. There's nothing we can do but just wait.

Anyway, i was just pointing out that pocketnow's source was sammobile.:D
[Galaxy S II General] sgs2FTW:
sgs2 jb

i think it will get android v. 4.0.4!!??:rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
Guys, let's get back to topic. No need for flames :)
[Galaxy S II General] :
hm how come you think about that ;)

wait for one day or two well have JB AOSP Alpha or today :highfive:
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
Nahhh, just wanna stop the flame before it spreads. :D anyway, will you be porting JB from source? :)
[Galaxy S II General] :
nope, my envoirnment is on a NC10 and the build precedure will take a day or two,

the windows i sitting at isn't mine either so i don't take a risk to build from it, however stormtrooper is already working on it ;)

be patient

also there is more advanced AOSP builders ;)
[Galaxy S II General] crazyguns:
If the jellybean sdk emulator can do 800 x 480, why can't the actual device itself? The whole "jb doesn't support WVGA so sgs2 won't get it" argument is nonsense imo..
[Galaxy S II General] Nalty:
There's also the fact that the Nexus S is getting JB and has a WVGA screen...
[Galaxy S II General] Subtract:
That all comes from a ****ing bull**** site which always have those special rumors....
[Galaxy S II General] :
i read that nokia 3310 was going to gen an update aswell :laugh:
[Galaxy S II General] hellcry30:
Hahaha trolling level over 9000 ... :)
[Galaxy S II General] Subtract:
Will it be even harder?
[Galaxy S II General] koudd:
Is there a developer thread or irc channel somewhere for people who want to discuss JB dev issues and share solutions? (for sgs2)
[Galaxy S II General] themohd:
As much as I'm interested in getting 4.1

I don't want it at the same time

cuz it doesn't support flash :S
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
A guy who uses JB 4.1 on his Nexus wrote on Youtube that you still can install it and use it but you won`t get any support from Adobe.

Can anyone with a Nexus confirm?
[Galaxy S II General] askor:
I hope we can see JB for s2 soon :>
[Galaxy S II General] AvRS:
Unfortunately not as people are too busy sharing rumours/opinions about whether or not they think Samsung will update the S2 to JB (which would be guaranteed to ruin it with TW) and not many/if any devs are working on it publicly apart from CM team from what I've seen. There are a few members who've started with source builds from HERE in the SDK port thread.

You're the kind of dev needed on this project, was using your ICS AOSP build for some time ;) Would be good to see a WIP dev thread and hopefully if there is one it won't be polluted with non-dev useless can't wait and the like posts.
[Galaxy S II General] :
no allot easier it will be :laugh:

does the sdk have an option to update the firmware??
[Galaxy S II General] leolysenko:
Need help

delete
[Galaxy S II General] AvRS:
As far as I know Google developer devices get updates pushed to them OTA but I don't have one so wouldn't know for certain I'm afraid. Next time I see my brother I'll have to ask if I can borrow his GNex and see if I can update it for him to have a play, but doubt he'd let me.
[Galaxy S II General] :
reflash rom again, do full factory reset (recovery mode) it should help

if not use cf-root to gain R/W it may missed some write info

i got moden unknown its due to some read/write error, i flashed cf-root and got it soon working again
[Galaxy S II General] ant987:
Knowing Samsung, they won't solve the Exynos security problem :p :p
[Galaxy S II General] edgarson:
Oh I would have forgot. Camera stutter issues are also the unsolved case by ****sung. They did not give a damn nothing about it from the begining. I feel sorry for ****sung fanboys If there are any.
[Galaxy S II General] bombaybadboy:
Brickbug + memory bug afaik only effect rooted devices so no concern of samsungs. Root and void warranty anyway
[Galaxy S II General] burtallicus:
well now you can install an app and get root.......so no warranty voided because is their problem

hey samsung service people i dont know what is that root you are talking about, is there something planted there? i just install plants vs zombies ....f..ing plants rooted my phone :)))))))))
[Galaxy S II General] sucro:
That page nobody can take seriously, cause it collects informations, like many other people here from different sources, they just take much money on stupid people, who believe them and marketing based on people who visit their page and believe them ;)! You can believe only official Samsung twitter, website, etc. , even official Samsung from some countries, don't know always right date, cause in development sometimes is difficult to say some precisious date, but it's really bad by Samsung like a company, that doesn't have some timeline, and some deadlines for releasing some updates, etc. , like other companies do, for ex. Microsoft gives release date for some patch, Apple too, etc. !
[Galaxy S II General] sahibunlimited:
Memory bug effects all unrooted devices so anyone can take full control of your device(if you install crap apps) and there are some reports that stock recovery also bricks the device
[Galaxy S II General] hazwheel:
No, if you root the device in ANY way, you have modified the device and therefore have voided your warranty, if you use the device as it was intended

by Samsung, you won't have the problem
[Galaxy S II General] bombaybadboy:
Thanks for the update I thought apps took control through root. New bug and guess I need to read up some more :)
[Galaxy S II General] drraptor:
what if you got rooted by a Playstore app :silly::silly::rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II General] hazwheel:
That would only happen if the app was designed to do that and you installed and ran it, warranty would be voided. What app are you referring to?
[Galaxy S II General] bombaybadboy:
Mobile odin has been doing that for about a year now. Dont think samsung will fall for "I rooted my phone by accident" excuse
[Galaxy S II General] hazwheel:
Wouldn't matter anyway, Samsung will rightly say its not their problem, speak to the app developer :p
[Galaxy S II General] burtallicus:
it was a joke man....but nevertheless if some one would to put a app that specific targets the buq but covered is something intresting in app store and i woudl install it , and the device got bricked where is my fault ? how can samsung prove that i did not root it before......is their fault that the bug is there so they should fix my broken unit. is like i bought a car with defective breaks and i crash it....is it my fault?