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[Nexus 7 General] dockinj:
@rcg...and @jp.... UPS and USPS tracking on the web stinks, I mean it really is bad. Until RFID tags become the norm there are only two points you should be concerned with on the tracking. First that you have a tracking number which means the shipment has been initiated right? You know someone has done something to generate a shipment. Next is the expected delivery date, which if you order from Google is 2 day shipping. So if you received your shipment email on Friday Ill bet you get your device Monday at some point. If you received your email Saturday morning or late Friday night its a gamble could be Monday or Tuesday delivery for you.

See if we had RFID tags the tracking would be automated. The chip would tell a server where on the map it is physically located on the map and auto-magically you could see where it is at any given point no human interaction at all. But as it is now there is an element of human intervention needed to tell you where your package is. So it could have got a label printed for it on Thursday then it could have gotten shipped and nobody updated the tracking server so while its being shipped its not being tracked. I know most will say that it is automatic as the package is scanned in the server is updated but I tell you from experience my tracking has been stuck for 2 days before and then on the day I am set to receive the package all of this information about arrival scan and departure scans from Las Vegas to Tennessee pop up.

Point being if you received your email, the tracking will not change until Monday morning I almost guarantee. And then you might see 3 different arrival and departure scans or you may see only a departure scan from California but it'll be Monday before anything gets updated further I believe.

Hope this helps and I get some Thanks points.
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
See my edited post. Wikipedia knows all...
[Nexus 7 General] woundedworld:
I ordered a 16gb 7/6 in Colorado and no update since the last pre-authorization was removed on 7/11.

I figure the 'first wave' was just a crap shoot and there was no order to their madness. Oh well, next week will be slow anyway. And if rumors are true maybe we won't have any of the issues the 'early adopters' are having. I am pretty patient, I ordered on June 30th but cancelled to upgrade to the 16gb on the 6th.

At the most I expect it to be here Wednesday, Yeehaw! :cowboy:
[Nexus 7 General] jycas:
Finally I called Google and they told I'll get the shipping email on monday, it was not what I wanted to hear but at least I'll be able to sleep and enjoy my Sunday. Monday I'll get back to this crazy deal with Google.
[Nexus 7 General] dockinj:
Honestly my opinion is that Google has brilliant Techy types throughout but they don't have a good Business Manager anywhere to be found. I believe the issue you are having is a lack of process on Google's part. It probably took manual human intervention to remove the hold and due to the chaos of the last week and a lack of standard business process they have basically forgotten. I ordered a 16G on the 27th with a case. I have not been charged, no shipment email, nothing yet and I am also in the US. SO I believe we will mostly all get sorted Monday if you ordered June 27 - July 1 (first phase) and possibly some orders after July 1. If you still want the tablet and I think you do, I would just leave it. It'll get sorted early next week and you will LOOOVE your device when it comes in. Google suffered from ignorance on this launch and they didn't hire someone like me to come in and make sure all the i's are dotted, t's are crossed and process proven through ORT (operational readiness test). They just said GO and a bunch of genius techy types started running around like ants on an ant hill that my 6 year old just stepped in.
[Nexus 7 General] Cheeseburgler:
Hi everyone, long time lurker, first time poster.

I thought I'd chip in some info for my fellow Canadians. Found out today that the local Staples (I'm in New Brunswick) had Nexus 7 tablets for sale (in store) as of today. Since I hadn't been charged for my GP pre-order yet, and hadn't received any shipping info, I called GP to attempt to cancel so I could go to Staples and get one there, saving me the $20 shipping cost. I ordered mine on July 3rd.

The rep I spoke to claimed I only could have cancelled within

1 hour

of originally ordering it, so no dice. She asked for my info so she could look up my specific order, then told me that as of today, my order had not even been processed for shipping. I really can't speak for anyone else up here in Canada, but it doesn't look like I'll be getting my tablet on either Monday or Tuesday.

Now, I'm not upset that I have to pay for shipping (I accepted the fact when I clicked "confirm order"), or that retail stores broke the release date and are selling them. What DOES bother me, is that my credit card still hasn't been charged, my order has not been sent for shipping and they won't allow me to cancel so I can get it somewhere else today. At the end of the day, they're still getting my money.
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
Quibbles:

The UPS labels have bar codes for tracking. RFID gives you nothing extra except data storage - they don't have a transmitter, and have to be "scanned" just like the bar code. And I would be willing to make a small wager the tablets are not shipping from California, except maybe for West Coast customers.
[Nexus 7 General] armyboy11b:
I thought ups works through weekends or Saturdays ??? Just not delivery unless u pay the extra fee??..don't they still ship from location to location??

I'd order packages on a Friday and get here by monday-tuesday ..my tracking never showed every location it went to tho .
[Nexus 7 General] chrisjcks:
I've gone past the anger stage, & just excited to get my hands on this beast.

Hopefully the wait will be worth it, & I'm sure it will be.

Project butter looks awesome, & video reviews show it to be even faster & smoother than the gnex.

Can't wait, but have to :-)

I am still hopeful Google will give Google play store pre-orders something extra.

... Wrong to hope?
[Nexus 7 General] Thebeast715:
I still have my fingers crossed for Monday....

Got my shipping email about midnight on Friday.
[Nexus 7 General] SupaDupaFly24:
Same every time a package of mine is shipped on Friday I get it by Monday..Even when I ship to another person they get it on Monday as well. And that is with UPS and USPS..
[Nexus 7 General] johnbobz:
I ordered a 16gb on 7/5 (I'm from Florida) and haven't heard anything either. My last preauthorization charge was taken off on 7/11. I'm hoping to see something by Tuesday :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 7 General] dockinj:
Oh I agree with you 100%! What is the point? I tell you the point is that Google probably has thousands of us calling in to cancel and is resulting in a HUGE loss of business so they are now saying no to the cancellation requests. If I were you I would escalate. Call back and go through the process one more time, explain that you pre-ordered the device under the assumption that you would get that order fulfilled as they rolled off the assembly line, logically you have agreed to a contract with Google for a certain amount of money and they are not coming through on their end of the deal. If the person tells you that you cannot cancel, reply very calmly that you understand that they cannot cancel your order but that you know someone in that office can and you would like to speak to a supervisor. Keep asking for escalation until you are talking to a Director, General Manager, or VP and I promise you will get the order canceled. Its business and unfortunately there are guidelines or rules in business that are put in place to protect the revenue and margin, but all rules can be broken and you have every right to request that this rule be broken being that you can walk into a brick and mortar retail partner of Google right now and purchase a device that Google themselves couldn't get to you on a promise to pay several weeks ago! You have a right, and I think you can get what you want you just may have to be firm, push hard and do not accept NO for an answer. Let us know how it goes!
[Nexus 7 General] EVO DL:
I'm glad you asked. No. Wrong.

A tracking number is generated by the vendor notifying UPS that he is PLANNING to have a shipment made, and is asking for a label to be generated, with a number.

NOTHING MORE.

For example, I have a client and they ordered 10 parts that I am going to manufacture on Monday. I got the order a week ago. On Wednesday of last week I asked UPS to generate a tracking number for customer xyz with his address, type of shipping and date that I will give the box to UPS (Monday evening). On that Wed. I already sent the UPS tracking number to the customer, telling him that I will ship on Monday.

See? I just do all of this so that I don't need to leave everything to the last minute, and UPS can do some planning ahead too. I can still change my mind and not ship it at all.

The customer, since last Wed, can go to UPS web site and see the same screen that we see now, with the yellow bar, and UPS saying that as soon as the box will arrive at their system, they'll scan it and you'll see an "Origin Scan" with date, time, and location.

So... All this means that as of now, you have no clue if these packages are with UPS and at what stage. All you know is that Google generated a label number for your shipment. THAT'S ALL.
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
Is it really so hard to write refused on the package and hand it back to the UPS driver?
[Nexus 7 General] jptech:
have you tried tracking your package?

Mine hasn't even gotten an origin scan.
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
Somewhat worse part is that some folks are going to PackageTrackr and seeing label printed July 9, expected delivery July 11 - and UPS does not even seem to have the package yet.
[Nexus 7 General] johnjohn25:
Got mine from home depot earlier this morning. Loving it, its the best android device ever. Now to get google to cancel my purchase with them, as I no longer have the funds
[Nexus 7 General] Anakin_SW:
Dude, you're my freaking hero. Well put.
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
Home Depot is not where I normally choose to go for my electronics purchases. Next I suppose you will tell me Walmart has it too?
[Nexus 7 General] Cheeseburgler:
That's what the rep suggested, so I'm considering it. More likely, I'm thinking of just getting it at Staples tomorrow, using the same credit card I used for my GP order (I keep a small limit on the card). That way, if they DO process my order and try to charge the card, it won't go through/get shipped in the first place.
[Nexus 7 General] Stromos:
This has to be a joke. I don't see why HD would be selling tablets....
[Nexus 7 General] Anakin_SW:
They told me to put a note on the door refusing delivery and if that doesn't work, bring it back to a UPS store and they'll generate a tracking number for free. Thanks Google for telling me how to stick you with shipping both ways for your tablet after screwing us! Perhaps after paying to send and receive back tablets and not turn a profit from one, they'll get the clue that they dropped the ball.
[Nexus 7 General] masterofmayhem:
In your case, you should tell them that you are going to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. And do it if they won't cancel your order. For the couple times I've actually filed with the BBB, I've gotten results.
[Nexus 7 General] dockinj:
Seriously, Home Depot is selling these? Thats too cool. Been a while since I been to the Depot I gotta go check it out, love that place!
[Nexus 7 General] mewantnexus7:
LOL I think you owe some people money.
[Nexus 7 General] jptech:
crap...

http://investor.google.com/webcast.html

announcing Q2 profits on July 19th.

Are they going to ship these out before the report?

UPDATED:

Staples live chat rep told me:

7:37:23 PM Me
I want to know when item # 949984 will ship out if I order today?
7:37:37 PM SteveS
If ordered today, they ship on 7/12 and arrive within 3-4 business days. That makes the latest delivery 7/18.
7:37:49 PM Me
and that is in stock?
7:38:12 PM SteveS
Yes, but they cannot ship out until 7/12.

If google ships on the 12th, and it's FedEx, which has Saturday shipping, will it arrive on Saturday, or Monday
[Nexus 7 General] mewantnexus7:
I'm willing to bet that they'll try hard to do so.
[Nexus 7 General] mikereidis:
:)

AND the backlash will be HUGE if the first shipments arrive with hardware faults and need to be shipped back, LOL.

I wonder what percentage will arrive broken just by shipper "misadventure". The tears will flow...
[Nexus 7 General] BaconStep:
Google charged me for it. SHIP DAMNIT.
[Nexus 7 General] Dirtbound:
I'm trying not to think of that possibility... I've had a bad run of glitchy devices. :(
[Nexus 7 General] altrikdout21:
Lol then this forum will transform from an addict forum to a support group! I love it though. Haha but really...it better not come with any defects... :'(
[Nexus 7 General] Character Zero:
Google is pushing 4.1 to AOSP. This is good as it usually precedes the product (in this case the Nexus 7) launch. I think the 4.0 push was just ahead of the Galaxy Nexus launch.
[Nexus 7 General] knitnerd:
The obsessive optimist in me will believe that your chat means those of us who purchased from Google Play will have theirs delivered on the 12th and everyone else will have to wait until next Monday. :-D

I don't understand why they would ship on a Thursday when it will just sit over the weekend at UPS/FedEx depots
[Nexus 7 General] jfd107:
It's my birthday today. All I want is for this to ship
[Nexus 7 General] MWBehr:
EVERY device is shipped with "glitches". It's just a matter how severe and whether the particular glitch matters to you. There will be (more) complaining threads as soon as these devices start to hit people's doorsteps, then the hypochondria effect kicks in. Soon everyone thinks they have "bleed through" or "ghosting" or "flicker".

I personally think people's standards are too high to just accept that no electronic device is the picture of perfection they have in their mind.
[Nexus 7 General] SirWill:
If they will be available on the 12th there, MAYBE Google is planning to ship so people GET them on the 12th? :) We can hope!
[Nexus 7 General] bcvictory:
I live in Victoria, Australia as well and I expect it on Friday, Monday or Wednesday at the latest.
[Nexus 7 General] Scottatron:
Our devices might be Fedex buddies!
[Nexus 7 General] Dirtbound:
You're right... many are minor but some are crippling. I've learned to live with these issuesin some cases... I just don't want a brick delivered.

Lumia 900 #1: Returned with capacitive touch button problem. (Crippling)

Lumia 900 #2: Has the same problem as any Windows Phone device WRT Internet Sharing breaking WiFi while on Cell Data. (Living with it, with a workaround and hoping for a patch soon since Nokia has voiced awareness of the problem.)

HTC Arrive: Disappearing Keyboard (Lived with it and was finally patched)

Sprint Galaxy Epic: Well... it was the Galaxy S Epic from Sprint GPS was horrible and reboots were random and inconvenient. (Lived with it... but were enough to make me jump to Windows Phone for my primary device)

Palm Pre: Power button died on two consecutive units (Crippling)
[Nexus 7 General] Character Zero:
Same here! Happy Birthday!
[Nexus 7 General] altrikdout21:
I will be out of town for ONE day, on Monday. If this thing comes on the one day I won't be here to get it, after I've been waiting all this time.....

Actually it's just been like 5 days but feels like a month. T_T
[Nexus 7 General] StyleNSkillz:
I sure hope so that would be awesome.
[Nexus 7 General] Outrager:
If July 12th is the street date I can see Google shipping them early just so people get them on that day. They seem to have done that with the Galaxy S III phones when I was following that (and various other products). Let's hope that the other retailers do the same. It would suck to be able to walk into a store and buy it on the 12th and have yours on an airplane or van travelling to you. It would be kind of a big F YOU to everyone after charging them for 2 day shipping only to ship on a Thursday and make everyone wait an extra 2 days for the weekend to receive it.

On a side note, man the Galaxy S III launch was kind of a cluster ****. I haven't specifically went out of my way to try, but I still haven't seen any demo units at the T-Mobile store, Target, or Best Buy.
[Nexus 7 General] BurnRubber90:
Me too, I was about to buy the Galaxy Tab 2, but I have been looking for a Google tab since last year, so I preferred to wait after the rumors of a Nexus Asus device started.
[Nexus 7 General] EVO DL:
Right. There's a poster here, something "trains". He keeps posting that he has a notification from UPS that his shipment was shipped on Friday and the scheduled delivery is Monday.

That's is not correct.

I am one of those who has a label generated on July 9th. And my packagetracker.com says that delivery is scheduled for July 11th. That's last Wed. You know I didn't receive any N7 on Wed... LOL..

All that packagetracker.com does, is taking the label generating date, and adding 2 days as per the 2 days air. Silly little website.
[Nexus 7 General] Cheeseburgler:
Has it been confirmed that Google won't still charge you for the delivery cost if the package is refused?
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
Amazon is the standard everyone likes to use for shipping.

Once an order has been sent to the warehouse - you can't cancel.

Even if you complain all the way up to the president - not that Obama would care.

You can't ask the impossible - of any company.
[Nexus 7 General] Orlandogz:
Well, I Ordered both a Gnex (coming from a G2), and a nexus 7. I've already received my UPS tracking code yesterday at around 9 pm. Hopefully they would arrive on Monday (since they ship on Saturday but do not actually deliver without fees). Also, I do feel bad for those who ordered accessories and had no info yet, since I ordered a phone and a tablet and did get my info earlier despite the Apple issues...... Also I Iive in NYC and ordered on JULY 12
[Nexus 7 General] Thebeast715:
yeah UPS is giving me the same yellow bar as everyone else.
[Nexus 7 General] EVO DL:
Yes. And they do have it already on sale. It's called Sam's Club. Sam's Club IS Walmart. ROFL. Live and learn my friend. Sam's Club belongs to Walmart. LOL
[Nexus 7 General] Anakin_SW:
I've called them twice and asked twice and they said that my order would be refunded in full, shipping included. Call them and verify for yourself if you like, but refusing their order is my plan.
[Nexus 7 General] johnjohn25:
Haha sorry, im so tired. Someone on here posted this morning they got theirs from office depot. I picked mine up from office depot after I got his suggestion. Office depot, not home depot.....depot depot depot
[Nexus 7 General] TPizzle:
Quick update on people with cases. I think I'm speaking for all if not most of us (ordered mine on the night of the 27th) that we still have yet to have any update on a charge, google wallet, play store order, or anything at all (forget about shipping that seems to be the new thing to complain about). Guess it takes some neurosurgery-level skills to put a case and tablet into one box. But I honestly don't know is that is the case of multiple things going into a single box or something else of that nature. Just venting out my waiting anxiety here :D
[Nexus 7 General] altimax98:
I believe there was sarcasm in the OP you quoted lol
[Nexus 7 General] platinumandroid:
Guys,People are just that "People" they are prone to human error just like everyone of us on a daily basis. The whole thing may have not gone as great as any of us hoped but seriously it's not the end of the world and they were already pretty much selling it at cost and giving everyone a few magazines,a movie,a book,a $25 credit to spend as you like and $10 in Google wallet cash to spend so really being disappointed is one thing and everyone is entitled to feel and think as they wish but just remember what your getting and for how much,The device is awesome,It's going to have plenty of development and in a weeks time you'll all forget about how pissed you are. Just hang in there & try to do it with grace. I would wait another month if I had too because in the end it's still an amazing deal & we are all lucky to have Google making the best mobile software known to man.:)
[Nexus 7 General] thrillerbee:
Are you getting this?

>>> UPS could not locate the shipment details for your request. Please verify your information and try again later.

I got the "your tablet has shipped" email from Google about 25 hours ago - nothing since then; still don't know when to expect this thing.
[Nexus 7 General] TahrirSquare:
I called and got the same answer, he specifically said that I would get everything back including shipping.
[Nexus 7 General] RexBabbs:
As a heads up, got my N7 from Sams Club but didn't go for the extended one year warranty (2 years total). It's $20 more. Found out today you can take your receipt in within 30 days and add the warranty extension.
[Nexus 7 General] ben dover:
Ups almost always takes a couple of days to start showing tracking.
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
In spite of Walmart ownership, I consider Sam's Club more of a competitor of Costco, with a better quality merchandise than Walmart.

I would not mind seeing the Nexus 7 in Costco - they have some high-end merchandise - but gee wizz, we have to draw the line somewhere...
[Nexus 7 General] Orlandogz:
Most likely on Monday you/we will receive the info from UPS, because it is the next business day, thus the scanning has to occur.
[Nexus 7 General] Anakin_SW:
Where did you hear that there is $10 Google Wallet cash??
[Nexus 7 General] EVO DL:
I know. And to the previous poster - yes I know it was sarcasm. But I still thought it would be funny that yet, indirectly, Walmart is indeed selling the N7. LOL
[Nexus 7 General] ben dover:
They have been doing it since they started wallet. Its for signing up for the prepaid card on the android app. I got mine and so did everyone else I know who uses wallet's prepaid NFC card
[Nexus 7 General] honghsien5:
still nothing

i ordered on 7/4/12 and i still haven't gotten anything from play store :/

where is my nexus 7 ?
[Nexus 7 General] PridgNYC:
True they don't have a transmitter, but they can be pinged by a wireless transmitter, so, assuming your wireless transmitter and receiver are capable of discerning multiple signals/responses from a given area, you can scan multiple packages at the same time, without having line of sight to a barcode. In my theory you should be able to scan the contents of an entire pallet without unwrapping it. (assuming every item had an RFID tag)

Actually now that I think about it, it is kind of like a chicken and egg problem. You can't rely on RFID scanners to give you accurate information about unseen goods unless you can guarantee that the unseen goods have tags in place.

Disclaimer: I am only assuming that an RFID scanner can discern multiple signals, but it should be possible.
[Nexus 7 General] glowworm62:
Tuesday or Wednesday latest.

Monday will be scan into depot and distribution into your state, from there it gets split into major centres and sent on to the little truck that comes to your house.

If you are in CA it will still be Tuesday or Wednesday.
[Nexus 7 General] whatsinaname:
Still no movement

Ugh. In montana, ordered 16gig on the 4th of july. I had one charge to my bank, but then it disappeared, still no email or anything. Sad face.
[Nexus 7 General] slvdc1:
I got $10 Google wallet cash when I activated my Google wallet on my N7
[Nexus 7 General] SimPup:
I ordered mine on the 7/11 and mine shipped late Friday night. Was shocked to get it shipped that soon.
[Nexus 7 General] Hemidroids:
Better check again.
[Nexus 7 General] Andrew025:
Does this still apply if you have gotten it on the gnex?