[Galaxy S II General] VanillaCracker:
Oh I did not know there was an actual term (kinda) for the difference between the two scrolling types. I always just thought the ICS AOSP was worse. Do you know if the scrolling is based on Kernel or rom? If based on rom, I'm assuming that Samsung's release of JB will be the more GB like scrolling? I really wish there was a way to make that available on the AOSP ones. I don't see what's good about Sticky scroll. I can see where you move down a little, it like jumps to a new spot a little further down, kinda like the click of a wheel...but it's just janky as hell. Never actually works right.

Stop complaining about Samsung already. It's already been STATED that they're working on a release. You KNOW they're not going to release anything for the S2 before they finish the S3, so stop bickering about it. I'm all for feelings about JB, but ones that have already been discussed should not be re-stated. Samsung is working on releasing the S3. They've also been testing the S2, and by obvious assumtion, they will release that (if they do) after the S3. It's not gonna be a week. No need to complain. At the end of August/September, when said release is supposed to come out, then you can continue bickering.

Edit: Same applies as to how we should treat the CM team. Only difference is, Samsung doesn't have the luxury to be able to say NO ETA, STOP BICKERING. Since they have to serve so many more people (keep in mind how small the rooted community is compared to the general population), they've gotta crank out a BUGLESS update in 2 months. You know how much pressure that is? We are some of the most FORTUNATE people (users of XDA), by having a JB release most likely coming to us to begin with, and then also having the best developers working to make sure we get what we want, you'd think that we should also be the most HUMBLE for it?

If you read any previous news about the ongoing Jelly Bean progression with various phones, you'd know that not all phones are equivalent. As has become apparent, it's not just that the SII is similar in every way to the SI, except better. It has different components, and probably because Samsung expected to sell more of them, they went with a cheaper sound chip (thus the problem with yamaha maybe). SI has simpler hardware to work with, plus it's compatible with the Nexus S. What's the GSII phone compatible with? Umm, the I-777, and the G Note....both which don't have JB..hmm.

The world invented settings for a reason, so that you can change things. Although I haven't bothered to change them yet, I would love to get notifications on this thread. Instead I'm humble enough to just check in every once in a while when I can. There is indeed a price to having information, and if you know this thread well enough (4,500,000 members), you'd know there's going to be bickering. ESPECIALLY on a thread like this. What they should probably do in the future, is have a thread for only people with 200 thanks and up, so that all the irrelevant noobies (myself included) can bicker amungst themself with no bother to all the devs and contributers; but that's probably not going to happen cus that'd be discrimination. Not sure what the forum's rules are on that.

Yeah I mean honestly that's probably what he should be doing, however the moderators have enough work as it is, it's no wonder that when he comes back he's a little annoyed things got out of control. I agree with the above, just leave the peace where it's at, but don't add more of the same complaint.

It's true, they can, almost, only benefit from it. Google definitely benefits from it, but they are also the ones being the most open-source about their business, so you can't say that it's only a direct coorelation. Samsung does what it can to help out their community, if you read the articles by AdamMoutler (http://www.xda-developers.com/android/what-is-unlocked-and-how-does-this-affect-verizons-sgs3/), people make it seem like Samsung is the monster keeping us getting what we want, while in fact, they are first and foremost, the manufacturer. People like to say they're enjoying the "Beast of a phone, SGII". Well it wouldn't be a beast of a phone, if GATEWAY was making the components, lol (btw, that's some ****ty U.S. computer maker). Samsung does its job by making us good phones, and they try and keep the community up to date on the best things, while fitting their own rules of structure. So what, samsung wants their roms to be TW? Big deal, you can't hate them for that. Granted probably more people like AOSP based, but I'm sure there would be a lot of unhappy users if they didn't even have the choice anymore. Give em a break.

Second, not every company in the world is open source, there are complications that come with that, google has the authority to be complete open source, cus honestly they're a giant. Samsung is also a huge company, but it's more focused on manufactoring, and thus propbably doesn't have enough say to demand their "customers" (even though they only make the phones, and provide their own "updates" - google actually makes the original software) get all the sources too. If ****ty carriers like Verizon didn't demand locked bootloaders be put on their new phones so that they cannot root, good willed companies like Samsung wouldn't have to take a huge load of **** for it.

Petitions aren't a instant response thing, if a petition is going to be requested about JB or affiliated drivers....they already announced they're going to release a JB rom for the SII (I've already made the assumption that they will, unless they themselves find it impossible to work with the sound chip - assuming they have the code to the driver, they shouldn't), so they'd probably ignore the peition anyway, since they're going to release an update. It would take that long for them to process the request anyway.

Read above, it's not as simple as 'oh we could release this code, but we're greedy bastards so we're not going to', there are probably restrictions they have within their own policies. It's not their main priorty to make sure we're completely dev capable, that's googles job, with their nexus line.

If your girlfriend cares about what state her CM is gonna be in, before she even gets the new phone, then you got one techy gf ;)

That's an incorrect statement. And a huge overreaction. I will not buy a Nexus phone for my next device if I find a Samsung: has better specs, the perfect screen size , a good price, and is aspectically more pleasing. If the nexus phones were as baller as the SII to begin with, and the same price, we'd all have nexus phones. Don't be dumb.

I personally don't mind waiting for developers to work their way around problems (god bless them), and make roms work for our samsung devices, and I'm not going to shell out $200 more, just for a device I like less, but with JB. Baby tantrum: OMG I HAVE TO WAIT 2 MONTHS FOR A JB RELEASE! . Just chill. It's not the end of the world. Enjoy the progression of ICS while you wait, ya selfish pricks :p

EDIT: An unnecessary post? Probably. But at least I added something new to the thread and expressed what people apparently need to be reminded of.