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[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Ok, Even this video was a decent than the FJ05 video which came first but Note 1 video is pretty close to ours and I can smell a leak coming soon :thumbup:
[Galaxy S II General] :
Dropbox bonus space from note seems to be fake :)
[Galaxy S II General] Skareb89:
This video was speed up 2x show the clock ;)
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
I guess Samsung is porting it from S3 just like you :p

hence why you can see the bonus space and I doubt s/w update will give you free cloud storage space? :confused:

What? I didn't understand what you meant
[Galaxy S II General] grzesiek1945:
Thats mean real speed is 2X slower.

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[Galaxy S II General] jgcaap:
Dunno why but i think i will be disapointed with jelly bean oficial version...
[Galaxy S II General] Kristion:
Yup, optimization is the key. I've played asphalt 7 on the s2 and well, it ran ok, no major problems, but it had moments when it seriously lagged. The same game on the newly purchased galaxy nexus runs butter smooth even though the hardware is of a bit lower specs than the s2 and take in consideration that it has a better resolution so the hardware is struggling more than the one of the s2.
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
Back when the Galaxy Nexus was first released, a lot of people kept going on and on about how the Mali-400MP (SGS2) was superior to the PowerVR SGX540 (Nexus). I kept telling people, look beyond the first GPU benchmark. The first benchmarks were based on fill-rate, where the Mali had a huge leg up on all existing Android GPUs at the time. However, if you scrolled down, you'd see the Mali get slaughtered by SGX540, Tegra 2, and even Adreno 220 in any tests that stressed geometry. Benchmarks are nice, but modern games push more geometry than fill-rate. These kinds of games tend to stutter on SGS2 but not on the competition. PowerVR SGX540 was the most balanced GPU at that time (and the OC'ed version in the Nexus is still more than adequate today).

So, we'll continue to have new games stutter a bit on our SGS2. It's a limitation of the hardware, one I accepted before buying the SGS2 (I waited for Nexus release before making my choice).
[Galaxy S II General] dud3me:
I always thought it was just due to bad optimisation but you seem to have more knowledge than me :D Anyway tdkr runs smooth for me and asphalt ain't that laggy either.

Athough why would samsung put a worse gpu on s2 than on s1?
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
Appreciate the vote of confidence, but I know mobile CPUs better than GPUs. Still trying to learn more on GPUs.

I remember back when I played Order and Chaos Online, I always preferred to use my wife's Kindle Fire. Not because the screen was larger (that actually made it more uncomfortable), but because it used OMAP 4. The frame rate, while lower due to higher resolution, was smoother and more consistent. It didn't have the stuttering that my SGS2 had. Higher fill-rate means better scaling to higher resolution displays, but it doesn't help with geometry issues.

While Mali-T604 seems to address this pretty well (too early to be certain), PowerVR and GeForce ULP are the most balanced mobile GPUs (with PowerVR generally being better).

Also, the GPU on the SGS2 is better than the one on the S1. The one on the S1 runs at a lower clock speed and is tied to lower speed RAM. NEC just kept the same SGX540 name.

By comparison, when Qualcomm upped the clock speed from 266mhz to 400mhz on the Adreno 220, and then paired it with faster RAM, they renamed it the Adreno 225. Same GPU, just higher clock speed and faster RAM. We see this in the desktop/laptop GPU space as well. The new GeForce GTX 680MX used in the upcoming iMac, unlike the GTX 680m, is the same damn chip with all cores/alus enabled as the desktop GTX 680, but running at a much lower clock rate and paired with lower speed RAM for power and heat reduction.
[Galaxy S II General] mubeenshahid:
Gpu on galaxy nexus runs everygame smooth even on hd resolution so yes its better than s2 mali
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
I disagree because JB once released for S2 will perform better than Galaxy nexus
[Galaxy S II General] RandomPlayer:
Or will it? "No matter how you slice it, the 4-core Mali-400 just can't compete in geometry performance with today's GPUs. Luckily for ARM however, most mobile games aren't geometry bound - what we really need here is pixel processing power and that's something Mali-400 does deliver quite well." wrote anandtechs article about gs2 and that was over a year ago. It's interesting reading mali and gpu performance sections in the article. Starts from here http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/16
[Galaxy S II General] :
JB from sprint runs great in international SGS II (after the factory mode was gone)

so i believe it will be faster, however the stock file manager is horrible in scroll speed.

but then it can run ripples as smooth as on SIII so i don't know

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i know i won't :)
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
What's this factory mode? Are you referring to JF10 RELASE for Sprint model?

I wouldn't care about any bugs on a test f/w since it's not meant to be used as a daily driver and isn't ready for users yet.

I don't know why but people using devices from HTC, Motorola etc love when OEMs provide updates but it's not same with Samsung. Probably since Samsung is best of them all in terms of updates and people should start owning a LG device(not talking about nexus) for example and then complain how s/w sucks.

ICS Update was major disappointment from Samsung but it'll not be same with JB. You'll get to have a major Android update (performance wise) and Touchwiz update(feature wise).
[Galaxy S II General] :
That's a myth. I've been using Nexus in one month and there's no way its PowerVR is faster than Mali-400.

I don't have such impressive theoretical knowledge as some users above, but I have some experiences with both handsets and I can say that...there are several situations where your hated exynoss performs way better than my glorified omap (with running JB). I mean of course due to project butter the general user experience is great there, better than on S2...and browsing is just wonderful...but still after couple of days you'll notice stutters even there in very ridiculous places you wouldn't even believe. There is obviously a field to improve. Another thing...live wallpapers. Seriously apply microbes on both handsets and you'll notice the screaming difference. While it's perfectly normal scroll on S2 it's a nightmare on Nexus. While almost every LWP runs smoothly on S2 only the simplest ones run without lag on Nexus. I know there's a high resolution screen on Nexus but still we're not talking about gentle scrolling lag...I dare to say...if you apply microbes or slightly more demanding LWP your GNex will be practically paralyzed.

I am not a heavy gamer but I tested google earth with 3d buildings...and almost always S2 outperformed GNex (maybe due to higher resolution on i9250).

I mean I love my Nexus and I wouldn't trade it back for S2 for sure, but clearly S2 has some advantages over it.

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Totally truth!!!!... but PowerVR on OMAP 4460 is even more obsolete.
[Galaxy S II General] :
ah yes i was referring to the JF10 release, and i ment to write after factory mode was gone,

if gsm/data was working i would say it would be a daily driver, i haven't got any other problems :)

feature wise its better than ICS and funnier :)
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Is project butter (vsync, triple buffering etc) working? I'm sure I9100 test f/w leak will be instant daily driver for everyone on XDA here :p
[Galaxy S II General] :
hmm, i can't make sure it is fully working, as in ICS the file browser was not lagging when scrolling but in the release it did however root explorer works fine so it have to be the file manager,

and yes if there will be a leak for international SGS II it would be a daily driver if we don't get a half bricked release,

else its party time :victory:
[Galaxy S II General] darkchazz:
Don't even mention the Tegra gpu... it is completely crippled by abysmal memory bandwidth.

It gets high scores in benchmarks like nenamark2. but once you run a game with lots of detailed textures and effects, you can easily notice low frame rates and lag, while the latest samsung exynos quad devices run these games at a butter smooth 60fps.

Even some tegra optimized titles like riptide, beach buggy blitz, and Horn, run by default at a resolution lower than the native 1280x800 on my nexus 7. and I do not notice much improvement when using a kernel with CPU and GPU OC to 1.5ghz and 650mhz respectively....
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Tegra is outdated and pure marketing. It's really not powerful and have no idea why people fall for over rated crap.

Asphalt 7 runs better on my S2 compared to one of my friend's OneX ;)
[Galaxy S II General] jontomes:
buttery brick
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Note 1 will be getting Multi view feature with Jelly Bean. It means h/w limitation isn't an excuse here and Galaxy S2 most likely could also get it.

https://twitter.com/SamMobiles/status/262574583952072704
[Galaxy S II General] mysterio619:
I doubt GS2 would get it since its screen only has 1/3 the amount of pixels that the Note has. I'm imagining two screens on it would get a bit cramped for most apps' smallest layouts. Cutting the screen in half would at least be below the minimum vertical 426 pixels in a "small screen" UI layout standard.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
It may appear to be inefficient to use it but I'm sure someone would port it if it doesn't come on S2.

Screen size could be considered a reason to not use it but it's use is best on tablet, better on a phablet and good on a phone like ours but surely not worst.
[Galaxy S II General] MPooZD:
^^^^^

Galaxy Note got smart stay in leaked JB

Galaxy s2 sprint doesn't get it !

why !
[Galaxy S II General] darkchazz:
Completely agree.

Nvidia managed to trick many people with the "4+1 COARS!!!" and "12 GPU COARS!" marketing :laugh:

You know what's really sad? When I go through the user reviews of a tegra game on the play store and one of them reads like this:
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
I didn't say that it was strong, just that it's more balanced in terms of fill-rate and geometric performance. Adreno and Mali each went to one extreme and that's why performance has been inconsistent on them, despite their relative high-end specs. Tegra 2 and Tegra 3 are jokes of a mobile GPU, still based on 8-year old desktop tech scaled down to work on mobile. There's a reason why Nvidia is always quick to get Tegra out the door before competing platforms (like Exynos/OMAP), because for some reason their **** is always slower, and not just the GPU. For instance, skipping on NEON for Tegra 2.
[Galaxy S II General] ThemeGios:
It would be cramped for sure but I still hope we get it none-the-less, I'm never in stock dpi anwyay :angel:
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
U

Most of the Gestures on Sprint leak aren't working whereas Note 1 has almost everything stable. It's a test f/w so nothing can be concluded yet

More cores.. More mega pixels.... More GHz :banghead: That's how companies are fooling people these days

Till today though S2 is almost quite old, it still beats even latest phones in the market.

Real world performance is what matters, rest all what companies say is pure advertising and BS.
[Galaxy S II General] :
i assume you haven't tested the leak?

for all features worked great even take the phone against the ear and it will call, ? and one finger holding on screen and slowly use motion it will move the picture you looking at.

same with palm features worked,

i may be wrong but for me it worked
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
I was talking FJ05 build and that's what video said as well which was shared here. You must be talking about latest leak.?
[Galaxy S II General] :
ah yes as i'm not a part of that team so i haven't had acess to FJ05 build
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
October is going to end in another few days and still no sign of a leak for international I9100 :(

I like ICS days(leaks were non stop) where S2 was phone which ruled the market and there was hardly any good phones from rest of competitors and it was first non nexus device to get ICS
[Galaxy S II General] :
ah yes look at SIII was the same leak after leak ;)

so i guess we are old now
[Galaxy S II General] DanDroidian:
Well, I couldn't wait any longer.....

Fried the main board on my S2 and when I got it back from warranty (free because it was so fried they couldn't tell that I voided my warranty with root and custom kernel, etc...) a few days ago I went and traded it in for the Note 2.

The Note 2 running JB is a friggin BEAST! The battery life alone was worth the extra $310 I had to pay to upgrade.

I really hope JB runs as smooth on the S2 for you guys. I now understand the term "project butter." It is unbelievably smooth. The first time I've actually had a phone that runs without any lag or freezes whatsoever.Android has FINALLY caught up with Apple (as far as glitch-free and smoothness goes), so now I truly think Androids are a better choice in EVERY WAY. (Until now, I've always liked Android better, despite iOS always running noticeably smoother, but now they are equal in that department and Android wins in every other department as far as I'm concerned.)

The ONLY complaint at all is that some things are more difficult to do with one hand (like Swyping with Swype Beta) but I'm sure I'll get used to that, and it's worth it to have a HUGE screen that stayed on 7 hours after the first charge using 3G and some WiFi, and also re-downloading many Play Store apps...

I'll keep reading this thread to see how JB turns out on the S2.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Your post is tempting me. I have been thinking of switching to Note 2 as well but just holding myself.

If butter can really be experienced on Exynos devices, I'm getting more and more impatient now.
[Galaxy S II General] :
You just made me jealous , please tell me how the multitasking is i saw its quiet amazing according to the commercial Samsung showed about note II its just smart and amazing how do you think it is is it useful? Is it as the announced it :D

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[Galaxy S II General] drraptor:
Can you tranfer apps to SD card ?
[Galaxy S II General] Codrea:
it's the end of november and there is no sign the release of Jelly Bean :(

I hope samsullll said november is not the end of november :silly:

Does samsung do it on purpose, so some of S II user become impatient and change to note II :confused:

samsul make me crazy :crying:
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Did you time travel or something? It's still October here? :p

November according to Samsung means December, January or anything :D
[Galaxy S II General] Dark Emotion:
LOL man... It is end of October... We can expect a release from Samsung in the upcoming month (I hope so).
[Galaxy S II General] hlubepet:
rolling of JB updates isnt finneshed according to twitter for S3, so I assume, jb for s2 will not be seen till they upgrade those "better devices". I hate samsung "soon" thing :D it could be delayed and delayed 4 ever... and as many of us.. I really hope it will be a gr8 update...
[Galaxy S II General] nix66:
November will be the month of JB ;)
[Galaxy S II General] nguyen47:
Android 4.2 is released now. Wish our devices will get it
[Galaxy S II General] iamnotkurtcobain:
Where did you see/read that?

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[Galaxy S II General] nguyen47:
xperiablog.net
[Galaxy S II General] sahibunlimited:
Minor update just like android 2.0 –> 2.1
[Galaxy S II General] iamnotkurtcobain:
But 4.2 sources aren't released by now?

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[Galaxy S II General] ginryu:
It's not officially released yet, that will be on november 13 along with the nexus 10 and the nexus 4.
[Galaxy S II General] vic12340:
http://www.android.com/whatsnew/
[Galaxy S II General] Ibsonic:
Guys really.. paranoid android with dori mali kernel is really fast.. i dont have wakelocks, ril problems, very smooth.. dont even realize hw doesnt work ? Its just damn smooth.. just try it urself

I really tried every single governors setting, and smooth scaling, every setting and every rom but ParanoidAndroid with latest mali kernel of dorimanx is the smoothest combi.. everything works out of the box and no problems at all..

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[Galaxy S II General] hlubepet:
para here, para there.. I want official release :) there is official mini-teaser for n7000, but sure, no info about s2

SamMobile ‏@SamMobiles

Something you get on your Galaxy Note GT-N7000 soon #JellyBean pic.twitter.com/SMeC33Gi
[Galaxy S II General] atulalvenkar:
Am trying to download the latest PA ROM. But the download from goo.im i going very very slow. Do you have links for any mirror which is fast ?
[Galaxy S II General] Dark Emotion:
I understand that many people love and prefer AOSP but there are some people (like me) that actually like Samsung's FW. It is stable and fast too (and ofc everything always works). :laugh:
[Galaxy S II General] Ibsonic:
Jap..

I'm at 2.50.. was good enough for me, had no reason to change it to 2.52.. Uploading takes to much time, u can wait 10 minutes by downloading from goo.im, or i can upload it and wait 25 minutes.. :D

Okay, so stick around ! cuz Samsung will release your jellybean in 2080 :D.. allmost there mate ;)
[Galaxy S II General] jj03:
I heard stephen hawkins is officially set to launch jellybean on the galaxy s2.

Bucket Biff
[Galaxy S II General] Kakuji:
I read somewhere that he needs help from Einstein on making a more stable leak.

Off topic: Because I'm a total noob on ROMs, can someone recommend me (and link me to it's thread) a JB ROM with TouchWiz UX that is fully working?I'm just tired with this ICS.

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Android 4.2 is official. Is likely we will get it? :(
[Galaxy S II General] grzesiek1945:
Im sure we wont get it.

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[Galaxy S II General] hardy81:
I think it's no officially bye-bye to anything other than Google and/or MS made devices. For sure those WILL get continuous software updates.
[Galaxy S II General] Spiralzz:
There are several AOSP/AOKP JB ROMs like CM10, supernexus (correct me if its the wrong name), resurrection remix, rootbox etc but none have the new touchwiz since it isn't a part of AOSP and is just Samsung's part... however, there is a flashable zip of the new touchwiz launcher here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=26458969 which you can flash over the JB ROM..
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
I remember there was a rom which had a touchwiz theme and AOSP base. I'm not sure if it was ICS/JB though. Need to check in Android development section and search for it.

Some pro ROM flashaholic may help you... :p
[Galaxy S II General] Spiralzz:
Oh well... a launcher is fine too :P how many people on the street going to realise that its just a launcher and not a theme... well, that's if you make sure none know most of this stuff :P
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Install any launcher (apex, nova etc) and use touchwiz theme from play store or touchwiz UX launcher has been ported to CM9 /CM10 roms.

It doesn't matter what ROM you're using in the end.
[Galaxy S II General] layercake87:
hmm...still no leak ? :crying: everyone gets a leak and i have to watch it ...naaah, just had write this somewhere down so at least i feel better ^^

so lets hope that we will get some leaks in the beginning of november. i saw the leak on the galaxy note and it is awesome ! want it too !
[Galaxy S II General] praktical:
JellyBean 4.1

Somehow I strongly believe that they will make this update available to the users considering that the cat is out of the bag and even better not to seem as Apple has over the years with restrictive measures.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
It's easy to crash Tapatalk. You just have to open a thread where first post has lot of thanks (eg: by codeworkx, chainfire) and kaboom!! :p

Multi Window by default works on few limited apps but it's been modded/hacked to work on any app. There's a tool available which can be found below

http://www.modaco.com/topic/358494-note-2-multi-window-tool/

Somehow I feel Note looks ridiculous when you are using it as phone. You got to use a blue tooth headset or hands free else its embarrassing to have a huge brick slapped on your face in a crowd.
[Galaxy S II General] praktical:
Only time will truly tell
[Galaxy S II General] frans23:
not excited about JB 4.1 or JB 4.1.1 anymore

now i want Android 4.2.

i like widget in lockscreen feature
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
Thanks a lot for making me laugh man :D
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Get a nexus?
[Galaxy S II General] sergini:
The only con is that nexus 4 is made by lg.
[Galaxy S II General] Spiralzz:
Added to the fact that is has nonremovable battery... :/.. but still.. I'll get it :)
[Galaxy S II General] ROG_ZX:
According to a german site (androidpit de): JB rollout early December for Galaxy S2 (T-Mobile branding). Unbranded = mid November..
[Galaxy S II General] darkchazz:
I have got myself an unlocked Note II for about 3 weeks now, and nothing can really describe how awesome this thing is <3

Jelly Bean on it is incredibly smooth. In fact way smoother than my overclocked Nexus 7. and the overclocked mali400 simply handles every game I throw at it at a buttery smooth 60fps while my N7 lags.

I wonder why review sites keep saying Tegra3 is a beast... :/
[Galaxy S II General] ant987:
Cause it's Nvidia, which ia well know for making good graphic cards for computers, but the world of smartphones is completely different

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[Galaxy S II General] vpraveenis:
If google picked LG to manufacture the nexus, they would have plenty of good reasons to do so and AFAIK every review out there points to how solid the optimus G is in terms of design and finish. LG's UI was the only sore point though but thats not an issue with the nexus.
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Neither are the software updates! ;)
[Galaxy S II General] stormtroopercs:
I hate people like you who do not give a company a chance.. even if their record isn't so good this nexus looks pretty solid ;) getting one myself!
[Galaxy S II General] DrunkFuX666:
Couldn't agree more... Seems like a solid phone... And for $350 with that kinda hardware... Its a amazing buy any day... I'm jumping ship as well... Goodbye Galaxy Series... Welcome Nexus...

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[Galaxy S II General] Kakuji:
Yeah, the new nexus looks cool, and the ratio between performance/price is extraordinary.

The only thing that dissapoints me is that Android 4.2 is still called Jelly Bean, I was very sure that it will be called Key Lime Pie.

It would've bean more logical if the version number would be 4.1.5 for example, as it doesn't bring alot of features.
[Galaxy S II General] KillMHz:
I love the Samsung for what he is doing, but unfortunately I have abandoned the idea of AOSP total for many years
[Galaxy S II General] chris2busy:
i'd pay an extra 200 if it had micro sd card support :/ but oh well...none of the nexuses ever had..
[Galaxy S II General] RMonst3r:
Just use cloud storage like Dropbox or Box.

External SD cards aren't really a big deal anymore.

I'll be getting the new Nexus as well and sticking with future Nexus devices.
[Galaxy S II General] :
Ah that only made me want the note II more however when i have that amount the s4 will probably be out :D

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[Galaxy S II General] lyj8191:
Thanks for the information on the 4.1 release for sgs2 but still kinda sucks that 4.2 is already on its way and we still haven't even been officially given 4.1 yet.