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[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
As per some hardcore CM devs - codeworkx, entropy512 they believe Samsung may not have fully implemented project butter in JB for Galaxy S3.

But CM10 doesn't have 100% project butter on both SGS3 & SGS2. Also a custom JB rom cannot be compared to stock JB rom in terms of smoothness as it's comparing apple to oranges.

Again what's smooth to you may or may not be the same to me.
[Galaxy S II General] InBefore:
So far JB is awesome, i got my phone recently and instantly switched.
[Galaxy S II General] DanDroidian:
When will the S2 get that? Surely Sammobile has a date for us?

:D
[Galaxy S II General] TheSniperFan:
You want a reason?

What about money? They want people to buy the S3 now and creating updates costs.
[Galaxy S II General] Vazduh:
Hehe! We will live and see. But for sure, when it will be officially released by google, no matter what the improvements will have, our addicted "hobby" will move into it and soon forget JB, as we already did with ICS. You know what? I dont want to make prophecies but, I incline to believe that we will have our JB upgrade right before or after (but close) the release of Key Lime Pie, if the next nexus will also be a samsung. Why? Because, many of us (S2 owners) are the potential buyers of future sammy phones (nexus or S4) and for this reason a good motivation and incetive is to relese those new goodies with what many of us most desire (the newest firmware). Not to mention that for the next galaxy nexus at least, the rumors state that it is to be released in time for holidays.
[Galaxy S II General] cagdasoneren:
I try JB on my wife SII. JB on SII is very stable and smooth. We wait November for the offical rom...
[Galaxy S II General] mysterio619:
samsung galaxy SIII to get official update starting from oct 9th.....for i9100 maybe next next year :D or even next october :p
[Galaxy S II General] dud3me:
Pretty sure the official jb for s III has already been released, at least in some countries.
[Galaxy S II General] mysterio619:
if we were to get jb by november or december......we should have got a leak by now.....or atleast hear from sammobile insiders IMO .............ppl are craving for jb now so much,,,,,,,,that they eventually get bored not in less than a month with sammy touchwiz interface,,,,,,first GB released everyone were excited for ICS and then when ics came ppl werent satisfied with 4.03 and wanted 4.0.4 and when they get that also still they are not satisfied......lol i remember the time when sgs2 forum had mor bricks than the great wall of china while trying the leaked 4.0.4 firmware.........so ppl move on be satisfied with what u have currently......u will get the update when it is to be
[Galaxy S II General] bobby21:
My thoughts exactly, it's either a nexus or a wp8 device for me next time i buy a smartphone. Still waiting for a motorola nexus!
[Galaxy S II General] android_isda_shit:
the jelly bean rom for the sgs2 will be uploaded here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1739763

2day, its uploading LastStandingDroid says
[Galaxy S II General] brgroover:
http://depositfiles.com/files/fpngtmnem

Jelly eat bean is here!!
[Galaxy S II General] stormtroopercs:
it's sdk port lol lets wait until sources are out for real excitement ;)

edit: be careful reports of bricks...http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1739763

check here for info
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
I think someone mentioned that galaxy s got ics since it has the same hardware as nexus s which got ics, so they got the drivers or what not from nexus s. I could be wrong.
[Galaxy S II General] ssvijay:
For Galaxy S devs used Nexus S to get the kernel src code and drivers
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
Yeah, that one. Anyway, i know samsung will upgrade our phone to JB since technically it is within the 18 month period. That's what i hope.
[Galaxy S II General] DrunkFuX666:
You really shouldnt post the direct link like that... post the thread so people can actually read about its current features and risks involved... lots of dying S2's because of this at the moment... and i dont think anyone wants that blood on their hands...

Your probably right... were still within the 18 months and I do think we will get this upgrade... probably quite late, but we will hopefully... they will give as good support to the s2 as they did the S1 at least if not better... so lets keep cool heads and do rain dances...

Sent from my Galaxy ICSII
[Galaxy S II General] someonet1k:
I'm thinking we will get an official JB but not anytime soon. Maybe in the autumn to stop GSII owners from running to the iPhone 5 :D After that though we will probably be left in the dust so AOSP ROMs here we come :D
[Galaxy S II General] airbus360:
I flashed that Alpha and it semi-bricked my s2, i couldn't access the emmc (Internal storage) to restore my previous rom. I flashed the pit file for the s2 and got things working again.
[Galaxy S II General] :
What recovery did you use?
[Galaxy S II General] airbus360:
Clockworkmod, it was with in the kernel that was modified by cile381, I flashed CF-Root which includes CWM and it didn't fix. I had to flash the PIT file
[Galaxy S II General] jarari2:
Yeah, It did happen to me as well.

I couldn't mount emmc, mmcblk0p7,9,10,12 until I flashed PIT file.
[Galaxy S II General] xpresotw:
Ctrl + D
[Galaxy S II General] derycklong:
Sgs2 will not get an official update

1. Our resolution is not optimized for JB

2. JB is optimized for quad core and ours is dual core
[Galaxy S II General] sabianadmin:
Nooo the nexus s is getting updated to jelly bean. And a lot of new HTCs have dual core processors.....
[Galaxy S II General] l3onidas:
if Gnex get why s2 cant get ? resolution is lower but CPU an GPU is batter
[Galaxy S II General] sgs2.5:
+ the S3 is Sammy's new flagship.

(but it'll come to the S2 eventually, thanks to xda) :good:
[Galaxy S II General] Putzy:
So, on that basis, not one of the American variants of the Galaxy S3 will get JellyBean either then, since they are all dual-core processors? :confused:

I don't think so. Until someone can quote a Samsung press release/statement about the upgrade probability, stop spreading false information - it doesn't help anyone.
[Galaxy S II General] android_isda_shit:
the sgs2 next update is 4.0.4, and it will be exactly the same as sgs3 rom,

how do i know, well its weird all the info they will just give you if you call samsung tech support? =D
[Galaxy S II General] Jonathan68:
Maybe december I think.
[Galaxy S II General] mihaixp:
Haha, that's really well said. :D

PS: I am almost sure that key lime pie will not come to the S2 as a stock ROM. They did a similar thing with the first generation too.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Every single Android OEM thinks the same way. They can release a new phone with JB (read - HTC OneX+) but fail to update their previous phone - OneX

This....
[Galaxy S II General] #illidan:
Are you even aware that HTC has announced JB for both the OneX & OneS. Pretty ignorant comment.
[Galaxy S II General] jerseykat1:
from now on its nexus for me. and if i dont get a nexus i will be sure to get the best phone with the same processor as the nexus so, getting an aosp rom wont be an issue. This xynos processor is great and all. But it makes things difficult for devs.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Announced doesn't mean it's released. I'm not ignorant or stupid about JB announcement on one x/one s. Why release a new phone competing your own flagship which is less than a year old with new android update ignoring your previous phone.?
[Galaxy S II General] TheSniperFan:
Because money.
[Galaxy S II General] #illidan:
Yes. Announced means will be released, as in definitely be released.

Manufacturers have their own way of thinking whether it's HTC release an upgraded flagship within hardly 6 months or Samsung releasing a bunch of upgraded phones based on the S2 after the S3 has released.

HTC certainly didn't ignore the OneX as you seem to be implying, maybe sidetracked it by making the OneX+ as the new flagship but definitely not ignored it.
[Galaxy S II General] :
I think some of you slightly overestimate word "money" here. (every single explanation...."because of money". Well of course gains are the major objectives in every business, but it's not that easy process as it's stated in many posts above) I recommend some readings in microeconomics (marginal costs....etc). Claiming that company maximize its gains by selling exclusively its most expensive products it's not entirely true.
[Galaxy S II General] TheSniperFan:
You have a point there, but you forget to take some factor into account yourself.

The number of sold devices is much higher than the amount if people that really care about updates.

The majority of people doesn't care. They just want to use their device.

You just happen to talk about this here on xda, where people do care.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Ohhh.. Please. Stop it, will you? :rolleyes:

Remember ICS update fiasco for HTC desire HD?

http://www.gsmarena.com/heres_why_the_htc_desire_hd_wont_get_android_ics_-news-4574.php

Here's another one for you which is pretty recent

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/10/motorola-reneges-on-ice-cream-sandwich-software-update/
[Galaxy S II General] #illidan:
What you speak about is economics of business. Specifically how much it will cost us to realease an update for a phone that we believe is past its prime.

I'm not saying your distrust & cynicism of corporations isn't valid. I'm not that big on them myself because in the end everything in business is based on profit whether you look at it in the long or short run.

Besides I don't see HTC screwing the 6 month old OneX community which is pretty large. That's not just bad but stupid business.
[Galaxy S II General] Vatumb:
Sorry For the asking the Off topic Question here. Am a newbie here and doesn't know so much about root and ROM

I have a Galaxy S 2 (Not rooted) with official Stock Firmware GT i9100 4.0.3 XWLP7

Want to upgrade my phone to Jelly bean. So please help me. Find lots of thread in the forum but confused which one to try, which one is supported to my firmware.

If possible please mention the link.

Thanks in Advance
[Galaxy S II General] TheSniperFan:
CM10 thread. ->Here<-

Follow this instructions:
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
OEMs think supporting their products is an obligation and not a necessity. I never said HTC will screw their OneX customers but have some respect for them at least and gain their trust before you release a new device on to the market.

MS had to support winxp for 2 decades due to its popularity and user base. That gave more confidence and consumers/enterprise customers had faith. MS didn't feel that they're arnt making profits out of it but selling more xp licenses than Vista :P
[Galaxy S II General] #illidan:
You are right. OEM's aren't obligated to support their devices but Android ASOP rules make it mandatory for them to provide updates for a device upto 18 months after it has been released. Now questioning the effectiveness of that rule is another discussion all together.

OEM's also don't have to gain anyone's trust. They aren't your doctors or doormen. They make a device & if it's good it turns out to be a hit & it gets propelled by its own popularity, if not it dies a quiet death & the next "big thing" is released on whatever time frame they see best. In this entire process who is bothered about software updates? Says 25% of the devices user base & this is a liberal figure. People who give a damn about them updates enough to ditch my brand forever? Say 1%. Am I supposed to give a damn about them? No because a cost benefit analysis will show that it will just turn out to be penny wise pound foolish.

Unless you have a brilliant (read amazing) product or sheep (read iPhone user base, sorry just had to do that) as your target audience then it's impossible to compete with giants like Samsung & Apple by releasing a handful of products every year. I don't know this for a fact but based on my daily reads of the tech world I'm gonna say that Samsung releases on an estimate 2-4 times as many products compared to HTC so it's just them trying to compete in an already crazy market space which I don't see any fault in from a business stand point. From a consumer stand point it's infuriating & disrespectful.

From you example I see that your failing to comprehend the dynamics of the two completely different markets you have so thoughtlessly chosen to make a comparison between. What you are basically doing is making a comparison between apples & oranges which everyone knows isn't possible.

& FYI vista was a mediocre product when compared to XP so you don't kill your golden goose when you don't have another one waiting in the wings. If you think that a big corporations like MS did that because they love their consumers then your either smoking some strong **** which I haven't heard of or you living in a land where rainbows get shot out of pink unicorns ass & Justin Bieber is king or maybe both. Try googling Windows 8 & Steam.
[Galaxy S II General] Kakuji:
If I'm not wrong (I hope I'm not wrong), the GS3 had JB leaks 1 maybe 2 weeks before the official update that started in Poland.
[Galaxy S II General] sscdougal:
Try the index of guides and tutorials. Its stickied i the general section. It has guides on everytging from rootin to loading custom roms
[Galaxy S II General] :
Of course I would even say that the majority of ordinary users don't give a damn about software at all. People want to buy S3 due to its four cores and other hardware-related factors, not because of android 4.0.4 by default. (most of my friends and s2 owners still use gb 2.3.5) Why people buy? it's a marketing question, and completely different thing. Not exactly what I meant. Right xda it's not really the best place to discuss such questions. ;)
[Galaxy S II General] TheSniperFan:
I thought about it a little more.

One more thing is that the users that demand updates already own their device. How are the chances that they'll buy a second one when JB is released?

The only thing the OEMs have from this is indirect income because of recommendations like "Buy a Sony, they've got awesome support!".
[Galaxy S II General] Demikos89:
Hi guys. Sorry if this has been answered before. I searched with no results.

Im curious to know if the new Jelly Bean update for our Samsung Galaxy S2 will have the latest TouchWiz 5 Interface in it. For those who are not familiar with this Touchwiz 5 word, well, to make it more simple to you, will the new Jelly Bean update for the S2 have the interface like the one is Samsung Galaxy S3.

Ive seen a lot of the new low/mid-end phones made by Samsung are being made with TouchWiz 5, so I thought this has not to do with hardware as it has to do with software, so Im sure our S2 is good enough to handle TouchWiz 5.

If someone of you have any information, i'd be happy to know.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S II General] piurso:
I think you don't need to explain what touchwiz is... this is xda...
[Galaxy S II General] loop4444:
Thats really hard to tell mate. i dont think no1 can give u 100% correct answer at this point.

Sit back like rest of us, wait and see :)
[Galaxy S II General] minidou-77:
I don't think so...

Cause I think Samsung likes to make a device with A particular software design and don't want to change it with updates.

Look at the GB/ICS update: just a few new effect on the launcher and almost nothing else

Don't forget that most consumers are not very "geeks" and don't like being disturbed ;)
[Galaxy S II General] loop4444:
If they dont give it to us, we gonna "take" it anyway :D
[Galaxy S II General] Demikos89:
It would be very disappointing IMO really. TouchWiz 5 should be avaialable on as much as possible samsung devices. They should add it in my opinion.

As for the people who would not want to see their old TW Launcher gone, well I think they should move on, also, the TouchWiz 5 isn't much more complicated than the old TW Launcher. It's just more beautiful, but has all the same features as the old one.

Im very curious to see that happen, if it however doesnt happen, I think it will be time to flash custom ROM's, as I've seen developers already ported it to our S2.
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
I also thought that whatever launcher has been shipped with a samsung device, it will have the same launcher even though it will be updated to a newer version of android like the original SGS where from eclair to gb has the same touchwiz 3. But don't forget that Galaxy Note recently (last month) got an updated apps (?), UI like touchwizUX (touchwiz 5) and many more in an ICS update. So we have a chance since note also came with touchwiz 4 but got updated to touchwizUX.:)

Edit: SGS1 got an official touchwiz4 in its latest firmware. Thanks siberian tiger for correcting me :D
[Galaxy S II General] Siberian Tiger:
My friend i'm afraid i have to correct you here ;)

In the latests firmwares of SGS (i think after JW4 2.3.6) it had TW4 and an upgraded camera apk in which you could take a shot while recording ;)

And our S2 doesn't have this feature :(

I really miss my S1
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
Oh yeah, sorry, forgot about that. It was either you were corrected by someone or you corrected somebody in this thread i think. What i was referring to was the normal GB not the value pack, or was the update you are referring to a normal GB update? :D

Anyway, this also proves that we might get an updated UI like the Note and SGS.

Thanks for correcting me my friend. Cheers!
[Galaxy S II General] Demikos89:
Did the Galaxy Note 1 get its Jelly Bean update? If yes, did it get TouchWiz 5 ?, thats one way we can know if the S2 will get TouchWiz 5 too.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Galaxy Note 1 didn't get JB yet but Galaxy Note 1 already has TW5 on ICS itself.

Once Note 1 gets JB, the S2 is not far behind.
[Galaxy S II General] Demikos89:
I think you are wrong. The official ICS update for the original Note didnt have TouchWiz5.

Have a look here.

[YOUTUBE]sG5V1a6Aszo[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy S II General] robertogl:
There is a version with it.

Inviato dal mio GT-I9100 usando Tapatalk
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
This is not a video i originally saw but here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P95NrRjAUPI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Edit: Here was the thread about it buried in the depths of this forum. Good thing i found it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1871347

Here is the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkixyhGDbGA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy S II General] atulalvenkar:
My wife has one. after Samsung rolled out official 4.0.4 updates they also rolled out another 4.0.4 update with Note II gallery as well as SGS3 launcher.
[Galaxy S II General] htcplussony:
Note 1 also got pop up play with it too.

The Note phone/tablet series seem to be where Samsung puts all their hardware and software goodies together.
[Galaxy S II General] minidou-77:
Let's hope they will do the same with galaxy S series ;)
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
The multi window feature on Note 2 is amazing.

Check it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6c7XaDWmJg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sort of real multi tasking. Is there any app which replicates this feature? I would call this surely innovation from Samsung :)
[Galaxy S II General] j510:
Nah but there is a dual web browser only for honeycomb firmware
[Galaxy S II General] :
NEWS for PA 2.17 Kernel

Just got the new Dorimanx kernel for PA 2.17. Works good, camera fixed and youtube working. Still trying it out...
[Galaxy S II General] no.1 of xda:
very good
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
I quite didn't get you. This is something more than 2 browser windows and It's limited to few apps as of now but I'm sure Google would bring this on nexus devices
[Galaxy S II General] TWeaKoR:
PA 2.17 (and the CM10 release it's based on) fixed a memory leak problem in Jellybean. Still no Project Butter though.

It just occurred to me: could it be that Samsung are waiting and letting the xda devs do most of the legwork in getting JB to our phones? :p
[Galaxy S II General] Sun90:
seems like that only to me:), since memory leak issue been sorted out with the new ' mali drivers' next step for Xda devlopers would be to go for 'Project Butter' after that we can see some Good Stable releases of JB;)
[Galaxy S II General] DanDroidian:
+1

I would also assume they'd ALWAYS want to leak the new firmwares here BECAUSE they'll get thousands of free beta testers that they aren't even responsibly for when their phone gets bricked.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
CM devs have kinda given up on Project Butter for I9100 since they don't want to waste lot of man hours and instead they are waiting for JB leak or release from Samsung. ;)
[Galaxy S II General] godcaronte:
I don't think we will see some "project butter" on our S2, before Samsung official release.
[Galaxy S II General] hostilevader:
I'm on mcm81's CM10 and it's almost perfect. Actually it is my daily rom :)

Inviato dal mio GT-I9100 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S II General] kicksilver:
Agreed, mcm811´s roms are awesome.

His latest 2 releases are really battery-friendly also (while idling :p), and smooth as hell.

But CM10 official nightlies are more battery friendly while screen is on too, but less smooth.

Make your choice.
[Galaxy S II General] freddy_156:
Can't wait for project butter on SGS2. JB AOKP could use some extra smoothness.
[Galaxy S II General] wltklah:
If Samsung implement project butter correctly, we might see true buttery animation experience at OS-level only. The whole project butter experience with apps you got from Play store will not be consistent. Laggy apps will still lag with Jelly Bean. Look at Play store or Google+ or even Youtube app for example, the scrolling is buttery only if you don't scroll beyond the point where it needs to load more stuff from the internet. When the phone start loading content, it starts to lag for a sec which gives choppy scrolling experience. Those apps should be redesigned to prevent over scrolling to where loading content and UI drawing for moving lists happening at the same time. So with all these problems, don't expect JB to provide IOS,WP like smoothness. However, home screen scrolling lag is past history, provided that there isn't any crappy written widgets on the home screen.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Project Butter hasn't solved all lags on Android but surely is a start. Let's see how much further its improved and optimized in future Android releases
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
Hey guys, I found a nice interview with codeworkx and why he doesn`t like the Galaxy S3 and Exynos in general.

Check it out here:

http://www.androidnext.de/schwerpunkt/codeworkx-cyanogenmod-interview-english/
[Galaxy S II General] DeathMetalMods:
Very sad ... but if Jelly Bean and the update policy of most of the Producers had ONE consequence, than a high increase of Nexus-purchases ...
[Galaxy S II General] Vazduh:
Today I read that JB is to get a minor update (4.1.2) and its already rolling for nexus7 (http://www.gsmarena.com/google_rele...he_nexus_7_brings_minor_updates-news-4923.php) and probably very soon for GNex. Meanwhile we're waiting for our first JB update. Hehe soon we will wish samy to skip JB upgrade and go straight to Key Lime Pie (5.0) lol
[Galaxy S II General] ATTIEQ:
as Officially announced by Samsung . Galaxy SII will be get JB 4.1 Update....:laugh:
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
4.1.2 pls? kthnxbye
[Galaxy S II General] mihaits:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1925709

Spread the word!!!
[Galaxy S II General] djluis48:
Thats for GS3...maybe he should extend this campaign to other Exynos devices.
[Galaxy S II General] :
4.1.2 is available for GNex (takju version) since today.
[Galaxy S II General] farhan_ds:
4.2 spotted on Engadget.. wtf is wrong ith samsung delays?
[Galaxy S II General] muli82:
With ICS i noticed the handy security feature of being able to set a mobile number to which a text will be sent if a a new simcard entered into the phone. Obviously handy if you loose your phone and somebody tries to use it :D

I cant seem to find this with JB?

Also SMS dont seem to appear in the call history anymore?