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[Nexus 7 General] HiddenSanctum:
Asus ships them to Stores + Google. Google tells everyone to hold off selling/shipping. Ebuyer and Adorama didn't get the memo or chose not to listen and shipped them out anyways. Now everyone angry someone got it first. meanwhile UPS dies in the sidelines due to the volume of shipments it has to perform (but loving the amount of money they are getting?).

What Google is trying to do:

Get every possible place to have the Nexus 7 in stock so there is no shortage what so ever.

My speculation of the current affairs.
[Nexus 7 General] feelinfroggy23:
Why are people are here trying to act so cool and like we are all kids. Just because we want a fricken pre order asap doesn't mean we're immature or stupid. I wish people like that wouldst their pre orders last while we are all playing on our new shiny N7 and see how much they complain then! Stop trying to ruin the fun guys. Your no better then anyone else
[Nexus 7 General] Seihaku:
No, it's actually what deterred me from pre-ordering from them -- Tax + Shipping is a no go for me. However, I also realize they aren't much of a retailer, they sell 3 items, 2 of which are new.
[Nexus 7 General] Mischaseb:
Do the math. 500$ ipad = profit margin of approx $330

$200 tablet = profit margin of $30

which would you prefer
[Nexus 7 General] Bobb_o:
Google's decision. You don't like it don't buy from them.
[Nexus 7 General] rferrett:
I understand now, this thread is a post modern parody on nerd culture.

I thought people were being serious in their crazy drunken tramp ranto. I get it now it is just a big joke!
[Nexus 7 General] Glod:
Play Store purchase disappeared off my AMEX pending charges and its not a posted charge either, it just disappeared completely off my AMEX
[Nexus 7 General] bisto321:
Yes, that is the one that got me. Glad Google dragged it out, just cancelled my play order for an 8GB and ordered a 16GB from HMV.

Thanks Google, sort of:confused:
[Nexus 7 General] codygordon:
While that is true to an extent, as an avid IOS user (Nexus 7 will be my first Android device) I must admit, they never have this much trouble with shipping, and that is what this is truly about. We can argue about Pricing and Usabilty of the various platforms all we want, but what people are pissed off about is the lack of a CONCRETE release date, and the huge amount of confusion surrounding this release. For instance, yesterday I went to gamestop to try and pick up my Nexus 7, the clerk brought it out of the back, sat it in front of me, and then tried to finalize my reciept. Then I had to watch him take it back into the back room, because Google wasn't allowing him to sell it to me today. :crying:
[Nexus 7 General] Stromos:
Haha okay that made me laugh yes Apple does charge a bunch but they are just one example.
[Nexus 7 General] Mischaseb:
PS I enjoyed reading the tags of this thread :)
[Nexus 7 General] bleclair:
I also have a Transformer Infinity on preorder... Wonder how that's going to go.

All of the Transformer releases (except maybe the TF300) have been cluster#&*@s.
[Nexus 7 General] californiarailroader:
Okay, everybody calm down, there's no need to get personal or insulting over something like this, is there?
[Nexus 7 General] Bobb_o:
Did Gamestop call/email you to go try and buy it that day?
[Nexus 7 General] acegolfer:
Great. More time to spend with the family this weekend.
[Nexus 7 General] Sarg92:
HMV are offering the 16GB Nexus 7 for £189.99 whereas I made an order on 28th June with Google for £209.99 and I am guessing I won't be able to cancel the order due to it being prepared for shipping!

There seems to be no perk in ordering directly from Google!
[Nexus 7 General] yaoverstand:
customer service

I just called google customer service, and just like everyone else, they told me that it was shipping soon. I just got my blank NFC tags in the mail, and it just re-reminded me that I can't wait to get my hands on this tablet. I do agree that this is a very sloppily handled launch, and that Google should at least commit to a date at this point, but I am not upset about preordering from google play, because I know for a fact I have a tablet coming to my door very soon.
[Nexus 7 General] zinv:
Same thing happened to me. Pretty sure that's just how google does it. Still very dissapointing :(
[Nexus 7 General] Mischaseb:
I think everyone posting in this thread needs to take a minute or 20 to watch some porn and CTFO :cowboy:
[Nexus 7 General] quinnsdaddy11:
Apple doesn't charge for two day shipping because they overcharge you for everything else.
[Nexus 7 General] blahblahyoutoo:
why are you *****ing about shipping fees which you willingly paid at the time of checkout? it's not like they charged it to your card after the fact.

google play has nothing to do with other vendors. oh teh noes, you had to pay for shipping?!!? the horror.

you knew what you were getting into and now that a "better" deal is available, you feel entitled to getting it sooner or the price adjusted.
[Nexus 7 General] Mischaseb:
Its definitely unconstitutional what google is doing, we need a class action lawsuit
[Nexus 7 General] Ayenn13:
If even that! The tare-downs I have seen don't take into account shipping and assembly costs. It could be they are actually braking even or a a couple bills in the red with every unit.
[Nexus 7 General] Mischaseb:
How much will it cost us to send chuck norris to google hq? will all our $25 play store vouchers combined cover it?
[Nexus 7 General] codygordon:
From a business perspective, their model is much more lucrative. And apparently people don't mind spending that much money on their products. It's just good business.
[Nexus 7 General] blahblahyoutoo:
the point of pre-ordering is so that in the event it's backordered, hopefully you will have gotten in before then.

i don't believe that google said you will be first person in town with a N7, correct me if I'm wrong.
[Nexus 7 General] Mischaseb:
maybe i could tape over all but a small 7" diagonal portion of my monitor and pretend its a nexus 7.... :confused:
[Nexus 7 General] ohaaron:
Does Apple sell any device for $200? :/ Ding Ding Ding..
[Nexus 7 General] chrisjm00:
I really wish when people try to make a case for not being stupid, or try to make an argument of some kind, they would take a few seconds to proof read what they write (notice how I didn't use "right"). You don't make much of a case when your argument is poorly constructed and filled with grammatical errors. Just a thought.
[Nexus 7 General] blahblahyoutoo:
if it shipped, then you should check with the carrier as to why you haven't received it yet.
[Nexus 7 General] bleclair:
Because for that price of shipping there was an expectation that the device would be shipped fairly rapidly. That expectation was not met when devices have arrived pretty much everywhere other than to pre-orderers. :D

And the other thing is, why wouldn't they let me cancel my order a week ago so I could pursue a better/quicker deal? That's the big one for me.

Regardless, why do you care so much that people let off a little steam? :eek: It's all good! :highfive:
[Nexus 7 General] Bobb_o:
Apple TV is $99 isn't it?
[Nexus 7 General] adomanico01:
How many 10" fully-equipped Android tablets have sold for the same $500 that Apple charges? Hint: Most of them.
[Nexus 7 General] Stromos:
Actually that's exactly why I feel entitled. When I pre-ordered the day of they made the tablet seem exclusive to the Google Play store. I almost didn't buy the tablet when I saw the shipping charges. Now there are better deals and Google knows there are better deals so they are playing the shipping soon we can't cancel card. They told me they can't cancel two days ago and yet nothing has shipped. I have every right to feel entitled to a price adjustment. If this kind of thing happened on Amazon I would already have a credit applied to my account. That's called customer service and Google really should try it if they want to be taken seriously.
[Nexus 7 General] californiarailroader:
Not too many, but you can get iPod Shuffle's, Nano's and Touch's for under 200 bucks.
[Nexus 7 General] HiddenSanctum:
I am quite amused at how fast the page counter is going.
[Nexus 7 General] gflare:
Finally someone who gets it! Let's take a moment to imagine the following hypothetical scenario:

Apple is planning to release a new 7" iPad... They are shipping the stock out to retailers early, so they have time to check all the SKU's, marketing materials, and unpack/setup for release. Then, Apple asks them to hold their stock for an extra week (for whatever reasons). The following week, Apple ships pre-orders out and retailers put the product out for sale as instructed.

This scenario sounds like a routine, smooth launch as long as the retailers don't spread word that they have it in stock. Which is also why Apple picks and chooses the retailers very carefully (who knows, they may also have them sign additional legal papers / NDAs). If any retailer were to sell the iPad within that 'delay week,' you can sure as hell bet that Apple will sue the pants off of them, and never sell a device through them again.

So the reason most people are disappointed and/or angry is that there was too much communication and retailers that don't fear the consequences. Ignorance is bliss - I still expect mine on July 17th, the usual mid-month Tuesday shipment date.

also, I understand the disappointment about a physical date (yeah, some random date from google would have worked), but most people seem to be complaining only after hearing the retailers info though.
[Nexus 7 General] Bobb_o:
When it said 2-3 weeks you thought they'd be shipped rapidly? I will admit the cancellation thing is a little weird though.
[Nexus 7 General] bleclair:
When the internet crashes, I hope you guys are happy! :D
[Nexus 7 General] californiarailroader:
Or the tubes get clogged. :D
[Nexus 7 General] bleclair:
No, where it said "Two Day shipping" and charged me $14. Anything over $10 and I expect expedited shipping. Or maybe I'm just a cheap bastid. :D
[Nexus 7 General] Bobb_o:
Should have bought a Fire then.
[Nexus 7 General] bleclair:
It's your week to make sure they are clear!
[Nexus 7 General] jfd107:
Get off your high horse ffs.
[Nexus 7 General] Stromos:
Contrarietyconttri

Ipod Nano actually is only 99 with rushed shipping for free. Ding Ding Ding What? Enlightenment.
[Nexus 7 General] kalipedia:
i was thinking of picking up some nfc tags myself while waiting for the tablet. which did you get?
[Nexus 7 General] Bobb_o:
Oh you're saying that $14 is too much for 2 day? It's a little pricey but that was their offer and a lot of people took it.
[Nexus 7 General] Mischaseb:
If it wasnt for the page numbers, we could delete this thread from page 3 onwards and no one would even notice, the posts are identical.
[Nexus 7 General] HiddenSanctum:
quite impressed at Xda's server capabilities
[Nexus 7 General] californiarailroader:
Give me five more minutes mom, pleeeease! :D
[Nexus 7 General] mr1ncred1ble:
Mine is ten minutes from my house at a gamestop, I preordered on July 4, mine shipped on time, it's mid July, why am I waiting? Can you answer?
[Nexus 7 General] cornelious2:
Then you'd delete Ronald and many other "classy" memes though!
[Nexus 7 General] Speeding Wheels:
This thread needs a massive dose of Valium.
[Nexus 7 General] bleclair:
Yeah, it's a little high, but not too bad.

I just assumed (and you know what that means... I made an ass out of me and me) that expedited two day and $14 would mean I'd at least get the tablet at the same time as everyone else.

Regardless, I ain't mad. Just impatient. :D

I think Google will make it right.
[Nexus 7 General] FiveOhFour:
DUH, it stands for "Youll never get it as early ASUS"
[Nexus 7 General] ohaaron:
I meant a device that people actually want. Apple TV is just an overpriced Roku box that doesn't do as much. There is still a nice profit margin.
[Nexus 7 General] HiddenSanctum:
Ronald was here? how did I miss that?
[Nexus 7 General] 18t:
no changes since yesterday :-/
[Nexus 7 General] Bobb_o:
Because there's a street date.
[Nexus 7 General] blahblahyoutoo:
entitlement much?

tell me, how much does 2 day shipping cost for a 2-3 pound package? i know for ground it will be around $8-10 depending where in the country.

if you had said "I wish I had the option to choose a cheaper/slower method", then I'd be with you. but then there will be even more *****ing about how everyone else got theirs first even though I pre-ordered!
[Nexus 7 General] adamskub:
I just decided to cancel my order from Google Play. I originally got the 8GB which came out to $256.16, but decided from looking around to order it from Futureshop.ca instead. Got the 16GB version for $294.58 which is only ~$40 more so it was worth it in my view (I also realized I had a $25 FS gift card so it's really $269.58 YAY :P). When I placed the order it said shipping between July 17th and 20th so it isn't that bad considering. I would honestly recommend anyone from Canada that ordered from the Play Store to order elsewhere, it's cheaper and god only knows when it will actually ship from Google
[Nexus 7 General] ameno13:
Just got off the phone with Google and they said they're waiting for BlackBerry 10 to release before they start shipping.
[Nexus 7 General] Stromos:
Okay I am done complaining, it is what it is.

Who wants to explain NFC tags and why we should care that the Nexus has the functionality? I know I can Google it, but it will give people something to talk about that's kinda informative for a few posts. Since we don't have any real information about shipping.
[Nexus 7 General] jsebol80:
I'm not upset at the fact that retailers received units already, that's expected. I figured a few would slip through the cracks, because that's just the way these types of releases work.

However, what I am upset about is the lack of communication on Google's part. All they had to do was send a mass email out apologizing for the short delay, etc. When they were vague with the release at the I/O, I didn't mind. However, its July 13th, with no updates, whatsoever from Google. Not even a presser through a major outlet. That's the part that Google needs to work on.
[Nexus 7 General] mr1ncred1ble:
And that street date is?
[Nexus 7 General] adomanico01:
Of course we can answer. ASUS shipped tablets directly to retailers (including Google). Google received them the middle of this week, at the SAME TIME as retailers. Now, Google is working to fill their orders so that Play orders can get them the same time as retail outlets and has ordered all retail outlets to hold on their inventory until an undisclosed date so Google can finalize their work, which includes the "personalization" of your tablet.

In short, we're not at the "release date" yet, so you have to wait. So do I. So does everyone except a handful of people in the UK and New York City who bought from the two retail outlets that failed to honor Google's wishes temporarily.

Do you get it yet?
[Nexus 7 General] pclov3r:
You where able to cancel?
[Nexus 7 General] cornelious2:
Mid July :D
[Nexus 7 General] bucwylde23:
This is done with video games all the time. If gamestop didn't call you to tell you your pre-order was ready for pickup, then you can't complain too much.
[Nexus 7 General] blahblahyoutoo:
holy sh*t, are people here serious?

apple doesn't do it like this. apple does it that way. na na na... i'm a spoiled little brat.

yeah, you have to verify so that spammers doesn't sign up tons of accounts months in advance and wait for the exp date.

your spoiled attitude is showing again.
[Nexus 7 General] spences10:
China FTW!!
[Nexus 7 General] Seihaku:
I'm going with Sunday July 15th, 2012
[Nexus 7 General] 18t:
ive never used the nfc feature on my gnex. looking forward finally being able to use it with someone, myself lol
[Nexus 7 General] blahblahyoutoo:
because if one place does it, every other place MUST follow suit. NO exceptions.

hey guess what, you had to option to not click Complete Order when you saw the shipping charge.
[Nexus 7 General] clintkev251:
Although I am not an expert when it comes to NFC, from my understanding, an NFC device can be programmed to perform certain actions when it comes in range if a tag
[Nexus 7 General] tylerwatt12:
lmao

>Quit fu*cking refreshing
[Nexus 7 General] Seihaku:
I feel like I should stick an NFC tag up in Best Buy that links to Amazon.com and Newegg.com.

Of course anyone that recognizes an NFC tag (or hell, QR Code) already browses at Best Buy and buys online.
[Nexus 7 General] UnknownFearNG:
I preordered my 8GB Nexus 7 yesterday and, within a few minutes, my credit card was charged and the amount was immediately put back on. Hopefully a sign that they should be shipping really soon :)
[Nexus 7 General] FiveOhFour:
Thats exactly what Google said, or implied at least, and to sit here looking down your nose at everyone pretending as if there is some issue with their thought process for believing that a pre-order gives you a product before those who "POST-ordered" is a EFFING Politicians game and its the reason we have patent wars and i hope you have a terrible day. :cowboy:
[Nexus 7 General] vidanay:
Hear hear! This sounds like a great subject to kill some time!
[Nexus 7 General] ohaaron:
LOL! I would probably die.
[Nexus 7 General] chrisjm00:
There is probably a street date on the release of your tablet. One that is contractually binding. I'm sure you want to buy other things from them down the road at some point. They sell you your tablet early, Google can sue them for more than the store is worth (maybe that's exaggerating, but you get my point). Google did nothing wrong, it was Gamestop that let people know they received them, however that ended up happening.
[Nexus 7 General] adomanico01:
I'm really, really hoping this is sarcasm.
[Nexus 7 General] razball:
I hate that screen now lol
[Nexus 7 General] ejkeebler:
they're convenience, i try to use them and unfortunately I flash roms too often and end up not setting them back up. The best thing I used them for was setting profiles, i.e. on my galaxy tab case I had one, so I when I put my phone to it, it turned on wifi tethering so i could tether my tablet. i've found little use for them besides stuff like that, i have one in my car that turns bluetooth on and off, wifi on and off etc...
[Nexus 7 General] zinv:
a tear comes to my eye everytime i get to the end of a page and theres no new posts yet :'-(
[Nexus 7 General] kalipedia:
yesss - to distract ourselves from the frustration of the delayed release i'm trying to imagine what can be done with the NFC functionality and NFC tags. i doubt i'll be pulling out my tablet to pay for things at duane reade so i'm kind of curious how useful it can be.
[Nexus 7 General] zinv:
that is one extremely ugly slug.
[Nexus 7 General] codygordon:
Only partially correct, Google gave them the July 12th street date, then revoked it right before that day.
[Nexus 7 General] blahblahyoutoo:
news flash, they do have price adjustment policies in place. go look it up.

except in your case, the price didn't change because you paid exactly the same price for the TABLET as everyone else. you just feel like you shouldn't have to pay for shipping or sales tax.

yup, entitlement.
[Nexus 7 General] Bhatch:
Ordered the 27th in AZ, nothing yet.

Had to get in on the craziest thread ever.:D
[Nexus 7 General] 18t:
dont think best buy has earned a penny from me in about 6 years. ive probably been to the store 20 times in that time frame. they should change their name to Worst Buy
[Nexus 7 General] kirbfucius:
I wouldn't even limit it to QR or NFC tags. Everyone knows Best Buy has two prices: overbloated price, or same as everyone else price. Same as everyone else products include Apple, video games, and stuff that's on sale. Overbloated is everything else in stock. :D

Jeez, I'll never forget when they used to price match to Amazon and their $85 32gb sandisk microSD card was matched down to $13. And that was still a minor profit for them.

Another thing people haven't mentioned when canceling their orders is aside from refusing shipping, you can also decline the charge before Google takes the actual payment out. On my AMEX card there was the pre-approval that has since dropped off. I'm half tempted to say to hell with it and decline the incoming transaction and buy it from Gamestop.
[Nexus 7 General] mr1ncred1ble:
I didn't request my tablet be personalized, I didn't even deal with Google, I dealt with gamestop, it is mid July, they have shipped, no word from Google on any "street date". According to some receipts the street date came and went...I can even understand a hold on selling in stock items that have not been paid for or reserved, happens all the time, but I paid...don't like having my money played with which is why I didn't order from Google in the first..now my hard earned money sits in a stock room buried under Wii games, and you probably don't even know where yours is or when you'll get it. Why are google play people against gs people getting their tablets?
[Nexus 7 General] ktz84:
Yet more evidence of a Monday release. Currys, one the few retailers who actually put a date on their pre-orders and stuck steadfastly to it until just a short time ago, have moved their date forward from 19 July to 16 July. Mine order is with them because I got free shipping, £10 discount through hotdeals and £5 on cashback through Quidco. Let's hope this is correct :laugh:
[Nexus 7 General] adomanico01:
Who said we were against you getting your tablets? You're going to get your tablet, when it's released to the general public. Same for Google Play orders. I want you to get your tablet, you want me to get mine. Nobody's out to get anyone else.
[Nexus 7 General] maw230:
I'm only in this thread, because im bored as **** and it's friday. ive come to terms with this bull**** and realize that it will ship when it ships. but, between this and reddit this day wont be so bad
[Nexus 7 General] iucidium:
He ate Bernice :(
[Nexus 7 General] chrisjcks:
Phoned Google,

They stated the first batch as been processed & is with the respected delivery couriers - but not yet shipped, but should be anytime now.

He said 1st batch includes anyone ordered before 1st July.
[Nexus 7 General] gflare:
I remember the days when people used to pay for delivery because they wanted the convenience... I'm going to stop tipping the pizza guy from now on because I expect the service with my order. Hell, I paid for the pizza... Right?!?
[Nexus 7 General] diecast17:
Just got an text message from GameStop saying my tablet is available Friday AM
[Nexus 7 General] Hipnado:
Not trying to make people mad, this is only informational.

I just got an automated phone call from GameStop saying that my product was going to be ready Friday Morning (now). Ill update with whether that is true or not.
[Nexus 7 General] tylerwatt12:
anyone else notice that the Nexus 7 has THE EXACT same processor that the new Microsoft Surface Tablet has?
[Nexus 7 General] iucidium:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhd8bcl7cdo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 7 General] brianbrain:
Wow, pretty hostile. It's obvious you don't understand the concept of "customer service" or "net promoters", so my points are going to be lost on you. Where does your anger come from? Does my returning a product due to poor customer service somehow offend you? ...I'm assuming it does.
[Nexus 7 General] P1 Wookie:
Same here
[Nexus 7 General] gbroon:
Just like they have effectively been saying for the past 2-3 days.
[Nexus 7 General] dale_cooper:
BIG UPDATE.....

Gamestop just sent me a txt and the store just called me and left a voicemail. She said that google finally gave them the ok to sell the nexus so mine is ready to pick up!!!!!

I'm sure we're going to see an update from google shortly - and I'm guessing everyone with gamestop preorders is going to start posting in this thread.
[Nexus 7 General] codygordon:
Just got an email from Gamestop, I can pick it up today!!! Will post picture in a minute!!
[Nexus 7 General] 18t:
perhaps apple has free shipping because in reality you already paid for the shipping in the 40% price hike for the apple logo????? but yeah bru you got free shipping :good: