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[Galaxy S II General] Kristion:
Yeah, we're all eager to get official JB from Samsung, but let us not forget what happend with the ICS upgrade and how they've kinda messed it up. There were some new things introduced by google which were trashed such as folder organization, holo theme in the menu etc. I bet that official JB ( if it will be released), will look almost the same as GB or ICS, I understand Samsung's point of view regarding market identity which is kept by implementing Touchwizz, but they could at least try to make a blend with google's ideas and in the same time keep their identity. I don't hate touchwizz, I hate the fact that it's getting old and some minor changes would make the customers happy and they could just benefit from this. Luckily google introduced a major improvement with butter project, I hope that Samsung will not invent an excuse such as lack of hardware resources because it would be only bull****.

We shall wait and see.
[Galaxy S II General] DanDroidian:
Out of curiosity, has Sammobile ever been wrong about their "official information" in the past?

Just curious.

Swyped from Outer Space
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
As far as i know not yet.
[Galaxy S II General] Areg8_6:
This is what Codeworkx said in cm10 thread

"We have to wait for kernel sources.

Maybe sources for i9300 are enough since it looks like samsung is going to create a "common" kernel.

Insiders are saying JB will be rolled out next week for i9300 which means that we're getting the sources."
[Galaxy S II General] Logi_Ca1:
Sweet! Can't wait :D
[Galaxy S II General] peterlimonade:
Been running JB for awhile now (well, at least for two weeks) with Westcrip's amazing Resurrection Remix and a CM10 kernel, and started wondering what modem would work best for me. Since the latest release forced me to make a choice and all :confused:

I'm on T-Mobile in the Netherlands and currently using the XXLPX modem, which has an OK signal. Anyone having great experiences with another modem? I'm especially curious for the BOLP5 modem.

(Apparently I'm still a noob, so can't post in the RR dev thread as of yet. Thought you guys here could help me out :o)

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ROM: RR JB 3.0.5

KERNEL: CM10-20120815

MODEM: I9100XXLPX
[Galaxy S II General] drraptor:
Can somebody post a side by side video comparison of a jellybeans Rom (any cm10 or any other) and a ics Rom (most likely Stock Rom)

Anybody:confused:

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[Galaxy S II General] cpl.Bower:
its easy. In one you have a working camera, in the other not :laugh: In one you have the radio working in the other you need to install an app... One does not hang, the other does. And so on...
[Galaxy S II General] drraptor:
I want to see the speed difference, although cm10 doesn't have a working hwcomposer.

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[Galaxy S II General] :
The best way is to try yourself and compare. Rom at this development stage doesn't work the same way on every single handset.
[Galaxy S II General] drraptor:
My phone is not personal, so can't do that until I'm sure out well work.

Just want to see the difference.

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[Galaxy S II General] jackierobinson:
You want a stranger to make a video for you so you can see the speed difference and decide if you want to use it?

I'm confused, who are you and what makes you so special that you don't have to just try it out for yourself like the rest of us? Making and posting a video would probably take longer than just flashing cm10.
[Galaxy S II General] kuluval:
Samsung give update....but the UI will ruin by TouchWiz ...like the ICS update:crying:
[Galaxy S II General] Vazduh:
To be honest it wont be a big surprise if GS2 JB will come with TouchWiz UI v4.0 (reshaped) instead of the new one from SIII, because the vast majority of the consumers take differences basicly at a visual level. Also, SIII must keep and improve its market share and a good way of doing this is to win some of the already satisfied SII owners. So, for less techy people, an extra 2 cores, better screen and a blueish interface (which I always find it more appealing than a greenish one) should de a no brainier. But we will live and see the differences. Personally, I wont complain about the looks of the launcher but be happy and enjoying the sweetness of Jelly Bean (s) ;)
[Galaxy S II General] attila95:
The JB will come in October for I9100 if am I right. Will it arrive for the I9100G in the same Time? I prefer official roms because of the better battery life. What about the 4.0.4 for I9100G? (The 4.0.3 had graphic driver bugs. Thats why I changed to Cm9.) Is the battery better in stock roms? (I can use my S2 only 4 hours with 3g if I sont take off the phone.)

I9100G-CM9
[Galaxy S II General] :
i believe so as I9100G is just a cheaper version of I9100 :)
[Galaxy S II General] cpl.Bower:
Processor capped at 1008 MHz and made by texas instruments, ****ty GPU. So, yes, you are right.

About JB, I really hope is not like CM10.
[Galaxy S II General] Floodland:
CM vs Sammy

I like Cyanogenmod, but for some reason, CM9 and CM10 always lack something: On S2 I was never able to stop sensors sucking excessive amounts of CPU, while doing nothing: android_system using +10% (while almost any Samsung based mod uses 1-2%) is kind of unacceptable.

Seeing the android_system threads I found that the culprits are basically: er$SensorThread er.ServerThread and SensorService, disabling autorotation, disabling auto-brightness, motion, putting the device in airplane mode did not help, I could not stop that pestilent ancient bug (for what I read, the issue was present on CM7 already)...

So, we will need to wait until Samsung decides to work in order to have a truly JB working version..
[Galaxy S II General] TheSniperFan:
Let me give you a hint:

The Android OS battery drain is BS. I remember that there was a "fix" that just lowered what the battery stats showed you (or something in that manner).

Its also highly dependant on your usage (which varies).

I once didn't touch my phone for an extended period of time and my AOS usage was like +30%, simply because it was one of the few things that actually used energy.
[Galaxy S II General] yahyoh:
its chips are aosp friendly not like exynos :mad::mad:

they have butter we haven't ,they have hdmi work we haven't , and and and....... etc i'm talking about cm10 :crying::crying:

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no its have 1.2 cpu same as Gnex ;) , that gpu that u talking about can run every single game on android but we still have better gpu :cyclops:
[Galaxy S II General] attila95:
So... 9100G>I9100? I am sad, because I wanted an I9100.

I9100G-CM9
[Galaxy S II General] Krishnadusad:
I heard somewhere that samsung started rolling jb out for I9100G in UK . May not be True though

Device : GT-I9100

Kernel : DORIMANX 5.68

Primary Rom : RR 2.6.1

Secondary Rom : RR 3.0.1
[Galaxy S II General] mubeenshahid:
Gpu of i9100g can perform better than mali 400 .Its also capable of smooth performance on 720p
[Galaxy S II General] :
According to various tests it's rather doubtful. Maybe in some very particular situations, but in general Exynos' GPU kicks TIOMAP's butt. As far as I remember in 2011 it was only iPhone's PowerVR SGX543MP2 that was considered faster than Mali-400.
[Galaxy S II General] yahyoh:
first its not exynos gpu its mali

2nd i don't care about benchmark and about icrap , PowerVR SGX540 can run everything smoothly , Gnex with jb is fastest android device i've ever seen even faster than s3 with ics
[Galaxy S II General] TheSniperFan:
No. Hardware wise the I9100 is superior in a manner of raw power. However, the I9100G has a much more open platform, which makes working on CM much faster.

Its all about your priorities...
[Galaxy S II General] :
Yes I know the difference between CPU and GPU. Perhaps I should have written Exynos with Mali-400 in order to avoid such replies. My Bad

I was replying to one particular matter: technical comparison of GPU (between Mali 400 and PowerVR SGX540) in terms of hardware. With all due respect but your opinion about GNex brings nothing new to this discussion (although I believe you). GNex is the perfect example of how good software can boost your device. But it wasn't a point in my post. And what you care or not...is just important for you mate :)
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
In Bane's voice - Let the rumors begin :p
[Galaxy S II General] dazzawul:
Im hoping samsung doesn't drag their heels, they DID bring out ICS for the i9100, but the S3 wasn't out yet...

Fingers crossed they learnt their lesson from the i9000
[Galaxy S II General] drraptor:
Jb hasn't affected the performance of s3 much.

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[Galaxy S II General] Krishnadusad:
Hahaha. Loved bane's voice. Wish my voice was also like that :rolleyes:

Device : GT-I9100

Kernel : DORIMANX 5.68

Primary Rom : RR 2.6.1

Secondary Rom : RR 3.0.1
[Galaxy S II General] yahyoh:
that what i think too , so i don't think it will make much difference on s2 too

it look like exynos didn't like the butter as tiomap :silly:

+ android code is optimised for Gnex :p
[Galaxy S II General] Astri:
if twlauncher is re-written based on the new animation functions, performance will be better. If not, we won't see any change
[Galaxy S II General] drraptor:
It will make the on S2; s3 is already too buttery check http://mblog.gsmarena.com/android-4-1-jelly-bean-for-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-hands-on/

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[Galaxy S II General] NuclearBastard:
Hey guys, little question here.

To be honest, for some reason, I decided to push myself away from the jb circle till someone gets the hwcomposer thingy etc' fixed; but the thing is, lately I see more and more users moving to jb.

So my question is basically this: are there even any advantages of moving to jb? what are the differences (except not having hardware acceleration), that drive people onto moving to jb?

I'm interested about it, since it kinda appears that there's no good reason to move to a newer but "broken" OS.
[Galaxy S II General] TheSniperFan:
People are curious and want to try out the newest **** all the time. :D

I did too. However, as most features are ported from CM9 to CM10, it means that you actually lack features that you already had under ICS.

On top of that you have the hwcomposer and memleak issues.

JB is a great OS and I'll install it as soon as hwc is fixed. For the time being I switched to MIUI v4.

The only two things that JB currently adds is the new (and improved) camera/gallery app and that shortcuts/Widgets move out of the way when you add another one. This is really nice.
[Galaxy S II General] tronpr:
Rom

Thanks to the tireless cooks who do an excellent job ...
[Galaxy S II General] mihaits:
And notifications. And Google Now. And new cm features that are merged in jb only from now.
[Galaxy S II General] TheSniperFan:
Yeah.

Also available in ICS (I think).

For example?
[Galaxy S II General] Tuqano:
sorry man....:o:o

try this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1739763&page=3
[Galaxy S II General] nidalius:
There is a difference between galaxy nexus and s2 : thé nexus have a ti CPU like the 9100g so task Will be harder :(

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[Galaxy S II General] hikarugo:
I guess they don't want to create the lte version with different CPU, so that's why google doesn't choose exynos as the SoC for the Gnex.

Also, fyi, nexus phones have their own disadvantages. The Galaxy Nexus, which actually have similar SoC with S2, is far slower in ICS than S2. Scrolling while having lwp is really janky. I guess S2 got some performance tweaks from the oem, samsung.

I still could see some lags in Gnex running JB. Perhaps it will be perfect if the phone gets additional performance tweaks from oem
[Galaxy S II General] Germian:
The camera just got stable like ~2 months ago for CM9 as they released the drivers for ICS, so I guess we are out of luck. We will either live with a castrated JB/CM10 version or be stuck at CM9.

Or how big is the possibility to compile own drivers for JB for the GS2?
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
Task for whom mate? What i mean is we need an official update to JB so that samsung will release the sources for it and it will be easier for rom porters that to have nothing to work with.
[Galaxy S II General] Jeegsawk:
Really? Then why was it so easy to port to galaxy s3 (exynos)?

If you look around the matter for developers is never the cpu support but the closed source drivers (often found in gpus, wifi chips, microphones, bluetooth and fm radio)

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[Galaxy S II General] crazy_android:
its avialable only for google nexus
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
As i said (dunno if i posted it in this thread but it probably is), we need sources OR i might be wrong and we can use the ICS files instead because it is somewhat similar to ICS not like the jump from GB to ICS.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
It's obvious unless the sources are released for JB next mid July, it's pointless to start developing on S2.

Also hopefully if Samsung releases JB for S2, the sources from Samsung would also help devs to release stable roms for S2.

I'm really not that excited about what the new JB brings to table(doesn't mean,I don't want them) but would definitely want to see Google addressing major issues plaguing on ICS.

EDIT:

Also after so many android releases its high time Google starts fixing update procedure for non nexus devices. It's become a pain in the wrong place where android user has to ask the question-Will my device be updated?

Sent from my Galaxy S2 powered by CM9
[Galaxy S II General] dacook2:
i really don't understand why they wouldn't release an update for the sgs2 since it has better hardware than the nexus which is the first one to get updated with JB, wtf ???

it's kinda confusing.

And the sgs2 is the most selling and famous Samsung there is and is still selling like crazy.

And if they don't update the sgs2 what devices will they update? there are only two devices from samsung the nexus and the sgs3 ???
[Galaxy S II General] newo1985:
I hope we get this update Im so close to getting a nexus
[Galaxy S II General] AkshayHegde:
Sheesh no biggy!!

1: Our hardware is awesome(ty samsung for that).

2: Samsung will realease jb for us eventually. First focus is for s3(imagine u got the s3 and s2 ppl get it first :P)

3: They will release it but only after a long wait.

4: If u dun wanna wait plz but the nexus series :D(ps i cant wait, nexus my next phone :) )

5: Samsung aint bad, cause there are companies out there that do alot worse :) and dun worry cm team has not let us down ever :)
[Galaxy S II General] ithehappy:
NONE.

Without source you are nowhere.
[Galaxy S II General] sahibunlimited:
And samsung never gave us driver sources so it doesn't matter if they update or not.

LOL for the n00bs who think their is no cm10 JB for s2 if samsung does not update.:laugh:

Their will be but will take time to fix.
[Galaxy S II General] iamnotkurtcobain:
I am sure there will be cm 10, cm 9.1 or whatever it will be called for our S2. Gb to Ics was a huge leap and Ics to JB not that huge.. Perhaps they could use the Ics drivers... They'll find a way.
[Galaxy S II General] ithehappy:
To post number 214:

Best of luck.

This discussion is invalid anyway as Samsung WILL release the source. That's why Faryab stopped wasting time.

And being noob is a grace to me than a flash junkie.
[Galaxy S II General] ant987:
Samsung's last announcement:

"Samsung will soon announce which additional devices are eligible for the Jelly Bean update. As the world’s largest smartphone manufacturer, Samsung leads the Android community with best-in-class devices like the Galaxy S III, and is creating new device categories with products like the Galaxy Note. Samsung has delivered the most Nexus-branded lead OS devices and we are pleased that Google will be bringing Samsung Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S customers the first experiences of Jelly Bean on a handheld device."

So basically they haven't decided yet, but the fact that they are at least referring to the Galaxy Note in the announcement gives me hope! If they update the Note they will surely update our S2 too of course, almost same HW
[Galaxy S II General] Tuqano:
Good news!!!:D
[Galaxy S II General] majkicimo:
I hope, that my s2 will be updated

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[Galaxy S II General] jujuburi:
Of course there will be NO AOSP, or any Custom ROM without the sources from Samsung. Oh God! What are we discussing here?

And some people just joined XDA because they just spent money behind SII and thus trolling here. There was another phone and that section would have been trolled by these lot of people. Just a matter of time these guys will hide from here and find another section to troll on.

Really an embarrassment for such a site like XDA.

Anyway, back on topic, I'm quite confident that Samsung will list i9100 in the upgrade list of JB.
[Galaxy S II General] mihaits:
Uhmn sorry to dissappoint you...

1 the new enhanced notification system - definately not available in ics

2 google now voice commands and speech synthesis doesn't work in ics

3 ability to disable profiles... lockscreen vibrate and many other things and features that were added to cm10 after the release of cm9 stable that i can't really remember
[Galaxy S II General] TheSniperFan:
It was a list.

Notifications - Yeah

Google now - I thought that it was available through some port.

Rest - I didn't know what was already added, because I switched to MIUI v4 some time ago. Once the memleak and the hwcomposer are fixed...I'll be back. Maybe even earlier.
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
1. The new JB expandable notification - true, doesn`t work or hasn`t been ported to ICS yet.

2. Google Now and Voice search (with JB Voice Engine) fully working on ICS and yes I am using it on the RR 2.6.1 Rom which is based on ICS 4.0.4 and it works great.

Check this link for instructions on how to install Google Now with voice commands on ICS:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1747224

3. True
[Galaxy S II General] Connecter:
A new info from Sammobile:

http://www.sammobile.com/2012/08/27...4-1-1-jelly-bean-update/#.UDuoQMw0ft4.twitter

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[Galaxy S II General] majkicimo:
Works with official ics? Thx

"tapatalk"
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
I don`t know since the Rom I`m using is based on CM9 and AOKP. I can`t really say if it will work on an official Sammy Rom but there`s nothing written about what ICS Rom you should have, so it should work on Sammy Roms too I guess.

What you do need is:

1. Root

2. CWM

And always make a Nandroid backup, so if it won`t work you can restore everything as it was before.
[Galaxy S II General] majkicimo:
Both things I have,I will try

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[Galaxy S II General] cpl.Bower:
please dont be like CM10... please dont be like CM10
[Galaxy S II General] D4rKn3sSyS:
I just beg to gods, make samsung be like sony, release HAL. If they do ill love them forever.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
As per this news, the transition from ics to jb for official rom wouldn't be same crap it was from GB to ICS. I would take this with grain of salt because this is something tough to believe.
[Galaxy S II General] :
No it will be Samsungified :D
[Galaxy S II General] Invalid_GR:
Hope all tis Apple vs Samsung case won't become an obstacle or excuse for not bringing JB to GS2 or any other device Apple tries to ban..
[Galaxy S II General] yahyoh:
sony !!! as i know they only release camera HAL :silly:

and i think sammy will not release any HAL because they hate AOSP :mad:
[Galaxy S II General] sahibunlimited:
Not only camera HAL but many others

http://developer.sonymobile.com/2011/09/28/sony-ericsson-supports-independent-developers/

http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...l-dash-developers-can-contribute-open-source/

http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...pha-rom-available-for-unlocked-xperia-phones/

http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...leased-as-open-source-and-sensor-hal-updated/

http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...pha-rom-available-for-unlocked-xperia-phones/

http://developer.sonymobile.com/2012/02/14/sensor-hal-for-xperia-phones-available-as-open-source/

http://developer.sonymobile.com/2012/01/25/stepping-up-our-open-source-activities/

http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...on-for-xperia-phones-released-as-open-source/
[Galaxy S II General] yahyoh:
@samsung
[Galaxy S II General] MemoryController:
Torvalds ftw

Sent from my GT-I9100 running CM10
[Galaxy S II General] alexpardox:
really hard to believe... samsung should work hard for better update times.

And of course JB is supported by GS2 hardware :mad:
[Galaxy S II General] thomsch:
WTF..

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[Galaxy S II General] Connecter:
SamMobile tweeted: Samsung: Galaxy Note, Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 10.1 to get jelly bean... Where is S2???

Don´t look so promise. But the hardware of the Note is similar?! So we get a better CM 10?
[Galaxy S II General] askor:
I think Note has this same hardware like S2, so we can use drivers from Note's JB for ours CM10.
[Galaxy S II General] thomsch:
Cmon. It isnt the point. There are a ****ing coreans.

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[Galaxy S II General] robertogl:
Yes but...why not s2?

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[Galaxy S II General] :
I think it's a good idea to express anger in a slightly different way. I believe we don't want to offend the whole nation.
[Galaxy S II General] iamnotkurtcobain:
Once Note gets JB we have a full working cm10. But I guess we have it at the same time or a bit earlier

..

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[Galaxy S II General] ant987:
Guys it must be an error! Galaxy Note has the exact same hardware of the S2 except from the screen. So don't worry

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[Galaxy S II General] drraptor:
What is developers take on this.

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[Galaxy S II General] Miracle1980:
Guys, just one question. Coming from the CM9 can i upgrade to CM10 like a normal nightly or i should do the factory data reset?

Thanks
[Galaxy S II General] htcplussony:
Saw the engadget news. Couldn't find the actual slide showing its a go for the note but not us. But oh well it happens.
[Galaxy S II General] TheSniperFan:
Factory reset is required. It's another OS.
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
I just watched the Stream and they said, that the Note will be getting Jelly Bean along with the Galaxy SIII very soon.

But yeah no word about the SII :(

Here is the full Stream of Samsung`s unpacked event at IFA 2012 in case anyone wants to watch:

http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=17504
[Galaxy S II General] yahyoh:
hahahahah sammy ****ed the s2 users with nooooo stock JB :mad::mad: but a note leak can fix hwcomposer no need for sammy crap wiz

i told u guys before they will not support us with JB

thats make me think again to never ever by non nexus phone :cowboy:
[Galaxy S II General] Scarface1991:
I think eventually they will release JB for the SII but I guess it will be months later than the updates for SIII and Note but let`s all hope then that an JB Update for the Note or/and Kernel Sources for the SIII will be enough to give us a fully working JB Rom like on I9100G
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
I saw stream and it was mentioned that JB would be available on S3, Note and Note 10.1 but this was all about Note 2 launch and wasn't a JB update announcement for Samsug devices.

Hope Samsung provides more clarity and we see something by Q4 atleast :)
[Galaxy S II General] duykhang524:
Guys they said the note 10.1 which is the tablet they're are not talking about the phone.
[Galaxy S II General] thomsch:
Note, note 10.1 and SG3

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[Galaxy S II General] duykhang524:
Can you link me to the part of the stream I don't have time to watch it all :/
[Galaxy S II General] gp545:
Yes, in IFA event Samsung not confirmed Jelly Bean for Samsung Galaxy SII :crying: