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[HTC One X] joplayer:
I was also told by someone close to HTC that we should have a 3.x kernel.

He however isn't sure if it will be for the next OTA but it should appear someday :)
[HTC One X] kryptoner:
thread title says confirmed and OP puts a question mark at the end !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[HTC One X] joplayer:
Quite confusing indeed
[HTC One X] Asheel:
Hopefully by 1st week of July !!
[HTC One X] xmoo:
Also havn't seend a new test version yet...

But only time will tel.
[HTC One X] LlabTooFeR:
I don't think that 2.xx line will have 3.x kernel. They started 2.05 rom with 2.6.3.9 kernel, so it doesn't make sense.
[HTC One X] chrisjcks:
I dont think its 'confirmed' just because one guy said so,

I think its best to assume that 2.05 will not arrive with the kernel as the test build doesn't have it.

Only 'hope' the kernel is included. :)

When does the regular folk get the official RUU? - we usually get it at least a week prior to official OTA.
[HTC One X] rik-sik:
What benefits will the kernel 3 bring over our current ones ?
[HTC One X] stesa:
a bigger number
[HTC One X] timlambo:
Lol, would actually have been quite funny if that was the case. The kernel 3.x is supposed to bring performance updates and will also mean the nvidia will be updated which in theory should bring massive gpu performance increase.
[HTC One X] jerrylzy:
Nvidia released 3.1.10 linux kernel code recently.
[HTC One X] ziobach:
where have you seen this news?
[HTC One X] BenPope:
Anything specific you can add to this?

I know that some Android code has been taken upstream into the kernel, and that much of the arm code has been reworked to have less duplication across architectures.

But what specifically has been changed to provide much better performance for our phones?
[HTC One X] dAverkTv:
Nvidia drivers Tegra R15 for 3.1.10 - developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
[HTC One X] Goku80:
here

you go
[HTC One X] ziobach:
so this thread could say the truth?
[HTC One X] chrisjcks:
Well, it certainly seems so.

Mentions tegra 3, mentions its released, mentions 3.1.10 ...

Oohhhh, maybe that OTA that we probably should have had was being held back because of this?
[HTC One X] ziobach:
i thought the same...we have to wait at least first week of july
[HTC One X] theliquid:
Ohhh, a 3.1 Kernel would be nice :D
[HTC One X] Sckank:
I think it was first "3.1 kernel with 4.0.4 OTA?" from the start and then later added "confirmed"
[HTC One X] bobsie41:
Why? Did htc/nvidia have to wait for official release before they could implement it? In theory it could appear anytime from now as it hasn't appeared allready.
[HTC One X] chrisjcks:
Yep, if its been officially released, HTC have probably been working with nvidia with it for some time - I expect the big update soon.

I can't believe the monstrous update this is gonna be....

Kernel 3.1

Android 4.0.4

Improved GPU

3dot fix

Improved sense smoothness

Faster performance overall

Faster browser

Longer battery

... plus more.

O...M....F...G
[HTC One X] junialum:
As much as I hope for nice things.

Some times things may sound too good to be true.

Fingers crossed but don't hold your breath!
[HTC One X] Flo95:
Can't wait

HTC rocks :D
[HTC One X] :
No HTC sucks....

No sources for last 2 updates

Theyve done a honeycomb on us

They certainly don't rock.

I hope they won't make us wait for too long!
[HTC One X] RADLOUNI:
HTC

I am totally furious about the fact that HTC released an ICS phone with a GB kernel. Sorry if it sounds negative but this is plain deception, and disrespect to its base of customers. Other vendors without mentioning the name has released their phone with a decent ICS kernel.

Yes HTC is working on getting an ICS kernel, but this should have been done from the start. We have paid a **** load of hard earned money for a phone thAt would realise its full potential only half way through its life because HTC wanted to beat competition to the market.

If it wasn't for sense that I am used to, I would have ditched HTC long time ago. sammy has such a ****ty ui that I would not consider switching to them even with all the **** that HTC is dishing out. I hope the update with the new ICS kernel does not take long
[HTC One X] realunited123:
Blame Nvidia. LG optimus 4x , one x with tegra 3, Asus transformer prime ,tf300 all are running 2.6.x.

The one s,one xl with S4 are running 3.0.x

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] theliquid:
Maybe the new kernel has OTG enabled?

Would be nice ...
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
thanks goku , posted it on op.

Sent from the Best phone in the world. SOON TO BE BETTER
[HTC One X] eeyrjmr:
You are aware that the linux kernel 3.x isn't some magic pill that enables a bunch of shinies over the 2.6.x...

It really was a case of "oh 2.6.39, do we really want to goto 2.6.40 or shall we reset to 3.0"

going over the changelog at kernelnewbies for 2.6.39, 3.0,3.1,3.2,3.3,3.4 NOTHING screams out as a must have.
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
nah, it just makes our phones softeare wise be on the same frontier as the s3, one s and galaxy nexus, xl. also, any minor changes especially solving heat problems would be greatly appreciated

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[HTC One X] EddyOS:
Exactly this, most sensible post in this thread
[HTC One X] hamdir:
heat is already addressed in leaked base
[HTC One X] andyl66:
Damn, I was enjoying my one x as an efficient iron for my jeans, always thought it was a feature.
[HTC One X] AndroidInsanity:
it's a decent radiator in cold weather tooo haha
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Do you realize how uniformed you sound? Of course everyone wants to be on the last version (of everything) but in terms of some giant leap forward, 2.X to 3.0 isn't it.

"So what are the big changes?

NOTHING. Absolutely nothing. Sure, we have the usual two thirds driver changes, and a lot of random fixes,

but the point is that 3.0 is just about renumbering

, we are very much not doing a KDE-4 or a Gnome-3 here. No breakage, no special scary new features, nothing at all like that. We've been doing time-based releases for many years now, this is in no way about features. If you want an excuse for the renumbering, you really should look at the time-based one ('20 years') instead.

So no ABI changes, no API changes, no magical new features - just steady plodding progress. In addition to the driver changes (and the bulk really is driver updates), we've had some nice VFS cleanups, various VM fixes, some nice initial ARM consolidation (yay!) and

in general this is supposed to be a fairly normal release cycle

. The merge window was a few days shorter than usual, but if that ends up meaning a smaller release and a nice stable 3.0 release, that is all good. There's absolutely no reason to aim for the traditional '.0' problems that so many projects have."

http://www.itworld.com/software/169503/new-linux-30-kernel-same-old-kernel
[HTC One X] wintermute000:
Finally someone else who 'gets' it, I too read that when the linux 3.0 kernel came out.

who cares 2.x or 3, does it give you the functionality/performance you want.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Here’s what I think happened and I have nothing to back it up but gut instinct from my product management experience. Samsung and HTC were both racing to get the One X and SGS3 to market first (it's a small industry, they all know what the other is doing). To beat Samsung, HTC shipped the One X before it was finished (at least to the degree it should have been). For those early adopters, that explains all the display funkiness (flickering, corruption, banding in apps) and other strange performance issues. The problems were most likely in voltage regulation, video drivers, low-level drivers, or a combination of the three – all of which involve Nvidia proprietary code and touch the kernel. Anyone in s/w or h/w engineering knows when you’re working on serious problems involving a deployed product (an emergency) you reduce the number of variables rather than increasing them by doing something like moving to ICS 4.0.4 or a 3.X kernel. In addition, time spent addressing those issues held up progress on the 2.X ROM which should really have been 1.0 and the ROM the phone launched with.

If I’m right It certainly explains the vast number of simultaneous improvements being included in the 2.X ROM. From early reports, especially battery life, benchmarks, and the UI, 2.X is like getting a new phone. Hopefully when it’s released all the things that people have been *****ing about will fade from memory quickly. So HTC “won” and beat Samsung to market turning us all in to Guinea pigs in the process. I guess we’ll see in the long run whether that was the best strategy on their part. I'm guessing the people in the Wi-Fi thread wielding pitchforks and torches would vote "no." ;)
[HTC One X] wintermute000:
I agree, running the 2.x leaked test base (ARHD 7.x) it is definitely the phone that should have launched, if only for

- fixing the screen issue

- fixing the disappearing SD card space issue

- letting us turn off the stupid 3 dot menu

and yeah seeing general snappiness/batt life improvements as well.

I wouldn't quite go so far as saying its like having a new phone, but then again I never had a deal breaking issue to contend with.
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
Too much , competition made HTC release the phone early, so that they have a head start before the s3. That is the reason with all the QC stuff with earlier batches. Right now, HTC is tightning things and getting back on track, and seriously, the next OTA really shoulda been on the phone when it came out
[HTC One X] BenPope:
That makes.complete sense, the 1. firmware is the stable one, the one that works (mostly), the one to rely on. The 2. line has all the improvements in it. I bet 1.28 and 1.29 releases were cherry picked from the 2. line as emergency fixes. Those patches, and the associated work has probably held up the 2. line more than HTC wanted, but such is life.
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
yep, they wanted as less bugs as possible so they chose the more mature and dated gingerbread kernel

Sent from the Best phone in the world. SOON TO BE BETTER
[HTC One X] lombers:
Guys I have a phone here already running a 3.x kernel, it's purchased through Telstra in Australia and seems to be running some weird base.

I'll grab some screenshots tonight (it's a family member's phone) and post them in here for confirmation.
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
uh testra has the 32gb s4 no？ so it should be on 3.0.8

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[HTC One X] lombers:
I didn't think it was a One XL with the S4 but I can check this tonight...
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
cool, guess ill see it when i wake up lol

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[HTC One X] lombers:
Perhaps I just screwed the pooch when I checked it out the first time. Let me double check, you guys are probably right as I'm new to this :)
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
lol, i always remember that peolle were saying how telstra got the best of both worlds with the s4 chip along with 32gb storage

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[HTC One X] Chad_Petree:
It indeed sounds like the best of both worlds, s4 and 32 GB :), but I'm guessing the updates will take a lot of time
[HTC One X] AndroidInsanity:
So when is this going to become an ota for us then?? Approx?
[HTC One X] Dasco68:
Id say 6-8 weeks for sim free and 10-12 weeks for contract phones, by saying this long you wont be disappointed when it dont happen till then lol:D
[HTC One X] zerozoneice:
As the onex is the main competitor for the sgs3, i can imagine why they delayed improved tegra3 drivers until sgs3 was out :)

The old typical nvidia releasing "tuned" drivers after crown stolen by ati to regain "mine is faster than yours" crown
[HTC One X] lombers:
Yeah I was wrong sorry guys it was in fact a OneXL with S4.

Having said that, I'm running the 1.29 base on my OneX and it feels significantly faster than the OneXL which is on the 3.0.8 kernel. But I realise comparisons about feel are rather insignificant especially between two different chipsets.

Oh well here's hoping we see the 3.x kernel on the OneX very soon!
[HTC One X] hamdir:
so you find it faster than the XL :D wish some people listen to this
[HTC One X] shadehh:
Awesome news!
[HTC One X] omar302:
Google Nexus 7 tablet leaks

Why is this relevant?

The leaked specs shows Tegra 3 & Jelly Bean. So, if leaks are true, our Tegra 3 HOX still has a bright future ahead of it!
[HTC One X] muamers:
If it enables the USB OTG then it will be a improvement for me ...
[HTC One X] Tuborg68:
Nice to hear that OneX seems to be getting a major update that brings them up to the ICS game big time!

Got a thought about this that is just personal and may just be wrong. Here I go:

Is this ongoing issue with HTC and them being a little late with new drivers, kernel and stuff, not just a bad effect of HTC not doing their own hardware in as big manner as Samsung and apple?

Take the new Samsung SGS 3 for example. Here they are manufacturing their own exonys quadcore processor. Must be a great advantage for them to have control over a bigger part of the chain than HTC that is more dependent on third party parts like the Tegra 3 from Nvidia.

Well there was my theory. Not defending HTC at all but maybe giving a little explanation to the situation.

I own an Asus transformer tablet and there´s exactly the same debate going on here with bugs sort of landing in between the responsibilities of Asus, Nvidia and of course Google.
[HTC One X] gorle:
In the NVidia forum i found those official lines:

"NVIDIA is pleased to announce that Linux for Tegra release 15 beta is now available! This release is intended for developers using platforms based on Tegra 2 and Tegra 3, and is not directly intended for users of Tegra-based devices."

What do this mean? Not intended for users of Tegra-based devices, what's that?
[HTC One X] AndroidInsanity:
Think it means it is only intended for platforms USING nvidia tegra and not actual nvidia products, like HTC one x uses nvidia tegra, but it is not a actual nvidia device.
[HTC One X] BenPope:
If you don't know what it means, it means it's not intended for you.

From what I can tell, it's basically updated drivers, for HTC (and other OEMs) to play with. If you try to replace the files on your system with those provided, you'll probably break your device.

Hopefully our kernel devs can use them, especially kholk and others who are trying to bring the kernel up to date.

The concensus seems to be that it was the lack of this update that prevented our kernel from being a 3.x release.
[HTC One X] hamdir:
guys remember faux kernel includes much of the drivers included in the new 3.1 kernel kit released by NV

and yrs the nexus tablet is very relevant it means Nvidia will work with google on kernel updates and new androids

and since HTC commits for 18months of updates and at least 2 generations of android the future is never brighter

be glad u listened to hamdir n bought a one x :D
[HTC One X] JohnZS:
This is great news, I wonder how long we will have to wait for the update?

It would suggest that the test build leaked is not the final build as it did not contain the new 3.1.xx Kernel.

I wonder if this would be a July release?

John
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
Very Glad!!!! love the fact that the hardware is light years ahead of any software out at the moment, seems this phones gonna have a great development legacy to it!!!!
[HTC One X] theliquid:
A Google reference tablet with Nvidia Tegra 3 would be awesome!

This would help porting new Android Versions to the HOX!

And btw.: I'll buy that Nexus Tablet for sure, if its really available for 199$ :D
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
and the microsoft surface is said to either have a tegra 3 or 3+, so win8 might have a slight possibility~
[HTC One X] TommUK:
I'm sure you misspelt 'Unconfirmed' in this thread title....
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
wat....when was that...i never used unconfirmed LOL
[HTC One X] Chad_Petree:
I wouldn't mind if the 4.0.4 update is halted and instead in just one month we get 4.1 :p
[HTC One X] darkidz555:
hopefully the next release will fix the laggy and stuttering in the camera while doing recording and photo is not 23fps what i mean is 30fps all the time hopefully HTC will do this..
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
He was being sarcastic. You have to admit that using the word "confirmed" when the source is a single developer (hobbyist) in China with no association to HTC or Nvidia is a bit of a stretch. Especially when the leaked ROM isn't on 3.X (yet). Fun to dream though. ;)
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
lol, well at least now it is confirmed with the 3.1.10 kernel. thanks for the heads up
[HTC One X] PAGOT:
Hmm, did I miss something? Where is it confirmed again? I mean that the HOX 4.0.4 will have that kernel. I am missing the link...

Can you update the first post as well. With a real proof?
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
sorry, there isnt any hard link where htc said they would release it, but with nvidia releasing the kernel for tegra devices, we are for certain gonna be getting it, either from htc or any kernel dev on here, since they have the codes to work with now.
[HTC One X] Rekoil:
My take on this thread: Guys, you're only setting yourself up to be disappointed. The 3.1.10 Tegra reference kernel was posted a long time ago, using it as proof that HTC are releasing a 3.1.10 kernel is simply mad.
[HTC One X] mohsinraza:
So will it enable USB OTG finally? Heard it'd come with 3.x kernel.

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] junialum:
This.

All OP said was he heard from a person he trusts. It could end up really nice or :crying:
[HTC One X] animaleyes76:
totally agree
[HTC One X] hamdir:
no knowing HTC is a proof enough, their PR will not accept their drivers n kernel be behind the chip builder source

not to mention if you dont know this by now, HTC is the most aggressive when it comes to android updates, kernel 3.1 is in the making and we will get Jelly Beans sooner than you might think

and from my experience from the leaked test base, they seem to have included the new 3.1 drivers in that kernel as evident by the much reduced heat which is the same as on Faux kernel
[HTC One X] ikeabuchi:
A small hint I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago about the new "Optimised tegra driver" expect better 2D and 3D perfomance and Cpu cache optimisations within.....ahem .."J.B". no more clues....I dont want someone to get the sack.

you will literally have a new phone... bye bye :-)
[HTC One X] ziobach:
what about release date?
[HTC One X] ikeabuchi:
2nd week in August onwards depending on the Carriers.

he mentioned about something about battery life will be increased to around 25 percent on average. not 40 percent. the memory management code is being made smaller which seems contradictory. :-) i have to delete this post very soon Because going to get into big trouble :-( no more questions
[HTC One X] nikorette:
U MAD
[HTC One X] Pointlol:
lold
[HTC One X] ziobach:
And for unbranded ones?
[HTC One X] bobsie41:
December ;)

This post will self destruct in 30 minutes.
[HTC One X] hapticc:
It would be released on 1st july if my sources seems to be true
[HTC One X] MickyMax:
1st july? really? but it's sunday...
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
Love the direction this thread is going

sent from my CHARRED ONE X~ and click THANKS if I helped.
[HTC One X] ikeabuchi:
I am not talking about the smalll update btw!
[HTC One X] ziobach:
Which sources are you talking about?
[HTC One X] dcafe:
i think there is a big update,no more 1.x,2.x is coming,3.1 kernel,i hope
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
It's going around in circles bordering on fantasy. My right brain is all excited about potentially getting 3.1 before everyone else (Samsung), 25% battery improvements, and better 2/3D performance. My left brain looks at posters with low post counts saying "friends of friends" "confirm" it's "definite" and "you can count on it" and isn't quite as excited. Especially when invoking the word "carriers" which never deploy updates ahead of HTC themselves. So I hope it's all true but I'm a bit skeptical until there's more concrete evidence either from more established sources or a new leak that moves in the direction everyone’s discussing. The closest thing we've seen to reality is Hamdir finding some strings of 3.1 code in the leaked 2.05 ROM.
[HTC One X] jonshipman:
USB OTG is supported as of Android's Linux kernel 3.0. Of course it's up to HTC to not type a 0 when building the kernel to disable it.

This means when we get this update and it doesn't have USB OTG then HTC would have to go out of their way to disable it. Which, when having access to the sources, can be reenabled.
[HTC One X] godutch:
Or maybe it's bugged on our usb controller and causes all sorts of weird/annoying issues and therefor htc disable it.

Anyway why only the 3.1 kernel, it's almost a year old.....
[HTC One X] sorr932:
CyanogenMod?

Could this benefit CM9 development by any means?
[HTC One X] pewpewbangbang:
Trip already has a 3.1 kernel he built, it's in the early stages of course. It's in the android dev forum, look it up
[HTC One X] seightch:
Yey updates, boo my "provider" not providing them
[HTC One X] mdeejay:
3.1.10 kernel comes with 4.1 update.
[HTC One X] zerozoneice:
just read rumours that JB update will hit HOX and GS3 shortly after release of the Nexus tablet...can this be the 4.1 update? (jelly bean + 3.x kernel) :)

anyway, 3.5hrs to go...
[HTC One X] Diamondback:
Thread cleaned, Please stay on topic!
[HTC One X] Asheel:
The kernel on the nexus 7 is the same one as HTC...it hasn't been updated to 3.1 :(
[HTC One X] Chad_Petree:
Maybe that's why the device won't be launched until July?
[HTC One X] shadehh:
Maybe the upgrade is not that big of a deal for an update to be necessary. Could this be true or it actually is somewhat of an improvement?
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
you sir are very misinformed. go look up any video on the tablet, and it shows 3.1.10

sent from my CHARRED ONE X~ and click THANKS if I helped.
[HTC One X] shadehh:
I reported you to the admins for that much uneeded conspiracy you just set free. Just messing
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
loool, just hoping we get that kernel soon

sent from my CHARRED ONE X~ and click THANKS if I helped.
[HTC One X] lexorcist:
Screen shot
[HTC One X] KLUVJ:
exactly where i saw it LOOOL canadians rule~

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[HTC One X] chrisjcks:
Yep, and I've ordered that sexy beast of a tablet.

Didn't think I'd buy another tablet as I have the Xoom,, but those specs for that insane price was too hard to pass up.

And yep, it has 3.1 kernel, and its only a matter of time before we get this massive update for our HOX.

Its seriously gonna improve our device, no doubt.

Cmon HTC, give it us already. Lol
[HTC One X] hamdir:
Tegra 3 dance

you have to give it to them, Tegra 2 was nothing compared to this
[HTC One X] Goku80:
[YOUTUBE]PVqKVNtQ7Yg[/YOUTUBE]
[HTC One X] pewpewbangbang:
So....just port nexus 7 kernel over to one x?
[HTC One X] hamdir:
most of this so hyped kernel is in Faux Kernel already...you people are tiring lol

and HTC will bring it to you sooner than you think
[HTC One X] GabrielSousa:
i think is good news for our HOX

we will have 3.1 kernel :D
[HTC One X] Cristianop:
Yeah I want my HOX to run butter smooth with JB on it xD
[HTC One X] pewpewbangbang:
That's sad cuz I've found stock kernel to be the best still and give the best battery life by a good margin.
[HTC One X] vincepg13:
Yeah well I'm holding of for soff till I root and start loading custom software but the performance of the one x feels below par right now so let's hope they do
[HTC One X] junialum:
The current stock kernel is giving the best battery life over all custom kernels according to the respective threads. Idk why everyone is so eager for a new kernel lol
[HTC One X] BenPope:
Because:

3.1 is 20% better than 2.6

3.4 is 30% better than 2.6

These facts:

2.6 was released over 8 years ago

3.0, which followed it, just one year ago

2.6.39 directly precedes 3.0

3.5 is imminent

Prove numbering means nothing, but that doesn't stop people from thinking that the numbers mean something.
[HTC One X] ShyamSasi:
Funny you should say that .. There is a early port in development section

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1737736