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[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] macdroid01:
Hi all,

I am not trying to flame here. I know people have different views and opinions of screen "quality". I'm just going to express my sincere opinions...thank you for any input...

I was just at a Verizon and AT&T Store. My main concern is brightness, though, secondarily, the jaggedness of PenTile.

I looked at the S II Sky Rocket and Note. And the Nexus at Verizon. All these AMOLED displays were incredibly dim, at least to my eye. Of course they had ghosting/burn in, too but I presume (I hope!) that's just because the display models are left on. But compared to even my Droid 2 the AMOLED displays were literally HALF the brightness (approximately, to my eye), of my Droid 2. The One X and Rezound of course blow it out of the water. I was thoroughly unimpressed with the "brilliant" color of OLED too. No point if it's as dim as an LCD on lowest brightness. Plus there were was the terrible tint on them all. Even straight on, but especially from even a tiny angle. And I saw the Pentile blurriness with the "color" around edges. And my vision is bad. Although I guess it wasn't that bad from at least two feet away, like normal distance for most tasks, but it was bad close which I sometimes do when using my phone.

Is the Galaxy S III screen as dim as the S II or Note or Nexus?

I am just wondering if this is a universal thing, where OLED is just dim, due to inherent qualities of OLED? I searched a bit and apparently the "nits" are much lower according to this xda thread http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-1679964.html. Oddly enough I found reviews and users saying they found it too bright which surprised me. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised and have S III be brighter than previous SAMOLED handsets!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] F1reEng1neRed:
I own a GS2(I777), a GNexus, and and now a GS3. I'm running AOKP on the GS2 and GNexus. I can't comment on the Note as I've never used one. I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Were you looking at them through a welder's mask?

Compared to a Droid 2? I was showing my S3 to my buddy who has a RAZR MAXX today. My screen is better and it ain't even close. He agreed completely.

And BTW, if you are asking a question, don't you think the Q & A section would be a better place to ask it?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] yokken:
I had an SGS2 and the brightness was more than bright enough for being in direct sunlight. Sure, it could have been a LITTLE brighter but I never had problems reading anything on the screen. It was also very crisp due to the true RGB stripe.

The Note has a PenTile pixel arrangement but due to the high resolution it's a non-issue. The same is true with the SGS3. Of course OLED displays aren't going to match LCD in sharpness or brightness, but the true blacks and vibrant colors look beautiful to me.

Wait for it to be in the store and then go take a look. But please don't say the displays on the SGS2 or the Note suck, because they really don't. Compare them side-by-side with a One X and you'll see a difference, but you will never be using it side-by-side in real world use. If you like super bright screens with white so white it'll burn your retinas, go for an LCD screen. If you like true blacks and punchy colors (that you can adjust the punchiness of) then go with an AMOLED. But saying AMOLED screens suck is just stupid.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] youngpic48:
I have the S1,S2 and S2 HD LTE and the screens are bright as a greasy bald head under direct sunlight. I have my brightness settings to about 15%-20%. My friends with iPhone 4s' even say its too bright. I put my S2 HD LTE next to my friends GS3 and my screen is actually better. I'll post some pics up later.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] play2lose:
The Note having a high resolution did not make it a non-issue.

I went from:

iPhone 4S - Galaxy Note - HTC One X

Screen Clarity went:

Amazing - Noticeable jagged edges but not horrible - AMAZING

I'm hoping I don't notice the jaggys as much when my S3 arrives due to the smaller screen size yet still high resolution. Just holding a Galaxy Note on it's own though I can definitely tell a difference, there doesn't have to be a side to side comparison. It was just "Well this looks pretty good, but it is not perfectly sharp like my iphone or htc one X look" It just kind've has an overall lower resolution look to it due to the pentile arrangement, but I didn't find it a deal breaker.

I didn't find the brightness an issue though, it IS too bright at 100% brightness. I liked my Note at around 50-70% brightness.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] yokken:
My friend has a Note and I haven't noticed jaggies using it, and I have 20/15 vision. It's a pretty beautiful screen in my opinion.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] macdroid01:
I probably should have put this in Q & A like mentioned, my bad.

But I'm puzzled by responses like above. I guess my eyes are very sensitive. I will agree different people have different perceptions. But I found the S II very dim even in a dimly lit store. I have a feeling I'd not be able to see it at max. brightness outside. And I love the brightness on iPhone and Droid LCD screens. It's wonderful. Even those are a bit dim outside but they are okay. Inside they are wonderful.

Hmm I'm worried if your S II is better than an S III that does not bode well. I hope perhaps the store model was messed up somehow. I know those get abused. Thank you also for your time everyone. I should have not said suck in the title but I wanted to emphasize I found the Nexus, S II and Note VERY dim, to my eyes at least. I figured the AT&T S III forum would be good since they're already shipping...Thanks again all.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] yokken:
Something is/was wrong with all of those phones, then, because they are plenty bright, even in direct sunlight. That, or you were wearing sunglasses the entire time. The iPhone is extremely bright, and I have actually hurt my eyes looking at it on full brightness if the room is not bright. Maybe you have less sensitive eyes than you thought. Not insulting you, just saying that my SGS2 was plenty bright and the iPhone 4 I'm using now is even brighter. I don't know how bright it really needs to be.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] manny05:
I don't know what dimness you see.. But you could always turn up the brightness. The gs3 display is beautiful. Way better than the s2. It looks brighter and just has better color. I love it. The viewing angles are amazing.

sent from my GALAXY SIII
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] extreme11191986:
My S3 is set at about 45% and is a great level. If you set it at 100% it is really bright and I cannot see how anyone would complain that 100% is not bright enough.

The screen is also very sharp and looks fantastic.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] nativestranger:
If you find the note to have visible pentile pixelation then it will be worse on the gs3 due to heavy sharpening applied. I know because I compared the 2 side by side.

btw the HTC one x display is pretty poor even by gs3 standard. The gamma is washed out and yellows and oranges are overblown to the point that skintones looks horrible. Text while sharper than on amoled displays suffer from poor contrast making it even harder to read.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] play2lose:
:confused:

I don't think you're thinking of the right phone. Every review states the HTC One X is the best display on any phone they have ever seen... And most Galaxy S3 reviews make a comparison saying it's good but not near as good as the One X display.

For example here is the Techie-Buzz.com review

"The display on the one X is too good to be true and the color and temperature reproductions are the most accurate I have ever seen on a phone."
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] macdroid01:
Agreed. I do graphics sometimes. By nature of what I do, I deal with image processing at times.

All these OLED phones were dim to my eye. And it was in a moderately lit store so it's a charitable scenario. LCDs blew the AMOLEDS out of the water in birghtness, sharpness, and yes, color accuracy, in my eye at least.

I like my screens bright, though. I use my MacBook Pro at 100%, nice and bright. I use my Droid at 100% always also. All OLED displays I've seen are very dim. What blows me away is everyone saying they are TOO bright. I'm really surprised by that!!!!

I guess I shall see when my S III arrives... Honestly, if I even have tint or ink marks I'll swap it for some other 4G phone. I wish one phone could have it all but it seems there's always a tradeoff. Unfortunately, I value screen quality more than specs and dev support, even though I was reeeally looking forward to all the other awesomeness of the S III. But with a dim screen all of that is useless to me...if I can't see it! I'll post my impressions when it's in...

Also I know this is kind of a negative thread but I'm really impressed by the XDA community. I found my way here after pre-ordering my S III and seeking more info. Everyone here is so quick to reply, knowledgeable, willing to intensely and intelligently discuss everything about phones and tech. Cheers to the XDA community.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] youngpic48:
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That's dim to you? The picture was taken by my daughters Exeria Mini with flash on.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] macdroid01:
Well I just used S III in store again. And compared to my Droid 2 it looks like crap. And my Droid 2 looks like crap compared to HTC One X.

I just used an Incredible 4G LTE. Well, it was nice and bright and sharp. It's LCD. It's small and low-res though. I'm very sad about this but I think I'll have to pick the Incredible 4G.

S III has everything else about it perfect. But the screen is so dim and crappy, to my eyes. Also HTC Inc 4G boot loader is unlocked. Although with the firestorm brewing here maybe VZW will eventually unlock your boot loaders. My S III still isn't in yet but I think I'm 90% of the way to deciding to get the Inc 4G. Really wish S III had LCD. :/

Also I have to note: the colors on AMOLED are truly bizarre and over-saturated. Look at Google Maps on an LCD phone compared to an AMOLED phone. On the SIII the orange highways are the color of a traffic cone and the red "A" dot over my city is the color red of a red laser pointer. Nuts. Way over-saturated. It's just annoying. AMOLED, speaking as a graphics pro, to me it just does not look like it's ready for use yet. I think Samsung jumped the gun. It's got almost no advantages and a ton of drawbacks. SLCD simply destroys it in every way. It's making me rather sad I'm getting a puny little Droid Incredible 4 because the SAMOLED screen is so crappy.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] armyboy11b:
The notes display doesn't suck at all....wth are u talking about??? Check ur eyes
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] macdroid01:
Have you looked at it then looked at an LCD?

Sorry it is WAY DIMMER. this is a FACT. Open up Google News in an LCD and AMOLED phone. Compare. What do you think? Specifically, how white does white look on AMOLED?

And: ink marks, tint, black crush, over saturation, burn in, etc. on AMOLED.

I'm trying to be objective here. I really just wish Samsung would use LCD. Photos of comparisons do not accurately portray the differences between these two displays at least based on my experiences...you have to see them in person. Although even without seeing an LCD once, as soon as I fired up S III for the first time I was disappointed. I was like oh crap, that's seriously full brightness? Uh oh.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] armyboy11b:
Mine looks great ..definitely not dim...colors look amazing..
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] macdroid01:
I guess my eyes are just super sensitive.. I never would have thought that. I wear pretty serious glasses even. Ah well. Although I have good night vision. It's not like I need things bright to see them. I just feel like S III is annoying because it's dim. Constantly annoying. Can't deal with that for 2 years, no way.

Perhaps sometime next year there will be a phone with all the awesomeness of SIII but with IPS LCD display or a nice AMOLED..
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] skatin707:
Same here. My SGS3 is fantastic, I actually prefer it over the HTC One X that I had for nearly a month.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] davidstech11:
Your vision is bad? Funny because mine is not yet I can't see all the blurry edges and letters you talk about. Being Dim is one thing, but the display being blurry is complete bs if that's what your saying. If I need my display brighter I will turn the display up. But so far, its fine. My One X display is good but it didn't make me hate my GS3 display. The One X display is good, but not that good.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] Success100:
its all subjective.

i would take the display on the s3 10/10 over the one x/evo lte.

the main reason i took the evoLTE back was because of the DISPLAY.

It really depends on what u want out of display, i can't stand LCD displays. I don't like dark grey "blacks"

sure they are sharper, but they just can not compare to an oled display in terms of contrast, and vividness.

Im not saying the one series devices have bad displays, its just coming from an s2, I was spoiled by the richness of that display. Going to the EvoLTE just seemed to me like a high res chalkboard. I love the display on the s3. Its high def, vivid, deep contrast levels, pixelation my ass, its looks fantastic, pentile or not. The only thing I miss about the RGB arrangement of superamoled+ is the viewing angles.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] contradude:
Going to second not wanting crappy blacks on my phone. Not sure why you're complaining about the screen, it's pretty darn good... I just came from HTC on my tablet and I'd rather get excellent manufacturer and developer support than one update and done like HTC.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] macdroid01:
Has anyone actually compared the One X, or EVO or equivalent LCD vs. the S III in person?

It's quite the difference, to me. Perhaps you saw defective One Xs. (if it's a store model that's possible right?)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] skatin707:
I did while I was exchanging my one X for the S3. I prefer the S3.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] macdroid01:
Excellent. I'm happy you found the best phone for you.

I enjoy everyone sharing their opinions here sincerely. It helps everyone make informed decisions. For example, some here value dark blacks which AMOLED has as some pointed out. I myself value absolute brightness more, which LCDs offer more of based on my direct real world comparisons.

I guess one thing at least for now that appears as a rule of thumb is no one phone can be perfect at everything. To me I value having an LCD screen the most. Not sure what I am going to do yet. I talked to VZW store and they claimed they'd charge me $35 to return an unopened S III for an Incredible. WTF with that even if it's unopened, that seems wrong. But... I might as well take 14 days to play around with the S III. I think I'll give it a fair two weeks to try it out. Especially outside.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] pakraider:
Maybe I have an eye for super detail, I don't know, but the PenTile is still soo obvious. Even on the dock, the jagged edge of the orange icon for Contacts on top of the default blue wallpaper is just too glaring. Or do I have bionic eyes or something, lol.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] skatin707:
I hope you find what you like! I hated my one X and was dying to get this S3, so I know the frustration of not being happy with your current device.

I really hope you end up enjoying the SGS3! It's a great phone, I'm really loving mine :)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] El Nivek:
There's definitely some pentile jagginess that you'll notice if you pay attention to that stuff, and the whites are a little off. But the colors make up for it for me personally. Makes the iPhone look washed out.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] eep2378:
I have a sneaking suspicion you'll be exchanging/returning your SIII when it arrives :D If you run your other devices(macbook, droid, etc) at 100% brightness, I'm sorry to tell you your not gonna like SAMOLED pentile :cool:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] EndlessDissent:
Yeah, my sister has the Evo, and the screen is the clearest I've ever seen. The GS3 has a very clear screen too, imo, but not like the Evo's clarity. I'm also not a fan of the way the GS3's colors are overly bright and saturated sometimes; after viewing the GS3's screen for a couple hours, the Evo's starts to look slightly washed out with a lot of whites on-screen. Of course, that's only relative to the GS3, so on its own, the Evo's screen looks great saturation-wise.

All in all, the Evo has an amazing screen, but the GS3's is nothing to sneeze at. It will serve me just fine until I get a new phone.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] Serious_Beans:
I think its very subjective. I really love AMOLED technology. The text isn't as smooth and crisp as it is on the One X but that's only because of the Pen tile which I can barely notice. I think the colors are great. People say they are over saturated but I like the way it looks and I prefer this screen over any other screen. From the length I hold my phones at there is no difference between the onex and s3 except for the colors.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] bjtheone:
I think it comes down to personal perception. Compared side to side I slightly prefer the X one's screen. However I am willing to trade that off against the extra size and especially the removable battery and microsd slot. I also typically set the brightness really low (around 25% on my streak, and under 20 on my s3). I can't imagine using it at 100%
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] tx3kgtman:
Lol and I thought I was picky. I went through 7 galaxy nexuses because of slight purple tint issues that drove me crazy. I then started with the one x which the screen is truly beautiful. I wanted the s3 badly because of that more complete package you get for the money but I was really worried about the screen. Now that I have it I can honestly say anyone who says the s3's screen is a deal breaker for them needs help. The s3 screen is amazing. Yes the one x beats it but by the slightest degree.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] basketor:
I have also a good vision and I see blurry edges and letters.

This is really because of pentile, because I noticed that first on my HTC Desire.

I noticed it on the GS1 of a friend (plus the horrible blue taint)

I noticed it on a Galaxy Note of a friend.

I noticed also on the GS3 I tried this morning, exept I new what I was looking for.

I love the big screen of the GS3, but I still prefer my GS2 screen, and the only reason is that it's not pentile.

I am 100% sure I would notice the pentile each time I read text or look digital images, as it was the case on my HTC Desire.

For pictures and movies it 100% ok though.

Now I didn't planned to buy GS3, because GS2 is still alright, and pentile really help me to not buy it.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)] Wilamette:
S2 vs S3

With my S2, I used to keep that at around 20% and it was perfect (unless in direct sunlight).

With my S3, I have the screen set to around 35-40% and in direct sunlight I put it up to 100% and it is plenty bright enough still.

Definitely usable for me in all scenarios.
[HTC Amaze 4G] glfngmble:
I have the following:

*****unlocked*****

RUBY PVT SHIP S-ON RL

HBOOT-1.90.0008

eMMC-boot

Nov 1 2011, 16:50:47

Since I was unlocked and rooted (S-ON), I have a basic TMO ROM and it was 2.3.4 and the ICS would not update. After reading the "Bible", i tried to restore GB to factory and now I have a problem. I cannot get it to pass the first HTC splash screen. Also, with the Stock Odexed.zip, I get an MD5 error when I try to unzip to sdcard and load with CM.

Ultimately, I would like to get to stock ICS rooted.

Thoughts?
[HTC Amaze 4G] justin lamantia:
Try ext4 recovery its the most stable one out for the amaze. Did u try to s-off if not ur better off
[HTC Amaze 4G] Dark Nightmare:
1. Never unzip a flashable zip. it's supposed to be zipped.

2. Download the latest ICS ruu from the stock RUU/OTA thread, rename it PH85IMG, place it on your sd card, relock your bootload via hasoons tool, then boot into hboot and update your phone via that ruu image, bootloader should auto detect it once it's on your sdcard and you boot into hboot.
[HTC Amaze 4G] glfngmble:
It says "relocked" at the top.

Looks for PH85DIAG.ZIP (doesn't find it)

finishes the first screen with the blue progress bar on the right

finishes the second screen with the gold progress bar on the right

goes back to HBOOT

then nothing... back to the opening screen and it is does not boot
[HTC Amaze 4G] Dark Nightmare:
Did you read my post properly?

Kindly go to the stock ruu/ota thread in the development sub forum of the amaze forum, look for the most recent ics for tmo us, should be the very first on the list and download it, once downloaded, rename that file PH85IMG and place it on your sd card, reboot your phone into hboot AGAIN, then wait for it to load the file, once it does, it will give you an option to update via volume up or not update via volume down, okay?

---------- Post added at 03:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:04 AM ----------

http://d-h.st/3VD
[HTC Amaze 4G] glfngmble:
Found it!

Ah, now I know what you were referring to! I was working from the one in the "bible" that had links to a different update. Many thanks to you!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Dark Nightmare:
Don't thank me till we get you up and running :p
[HTC Amaze 4G] glfngmble:
Up and Running!

Thanks Dark Nightmare! I was using the "Bible" as my reference and got confused with using:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=27058110&postcount=44

to put me back to GB so I can get the ICS to load. Once I got to the point where I tried to load the Nandroid backup, that's when I went off course. I was downloading the wrong image and needed:

RUBY_ICS_35_S_TMOUS_2.14.531.3_R2_Radio_1.14.550L. 17DC_30.78.550L.15_release_262141_signed.zip

from this page

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25271457&postcount=1

to get the update process to move forward. Hasoons GUI got me back to rooted and wifi working.

Thanks again!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] carloscarvalho:
Do you guys recomend any Torrent Client with no speed limitations??? What do you guys use?

Enviado de meu Galaxy Nexus usando o Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rmcsc:
I use tTorrent Pro, but I hear BitTorrent has a beta in the Store right now.

I highly recommend tTorrent Pro; it's excelent. BitTorrent, on the other hand, is BitTorrent. Need I say more?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
BitTorrent sucks balls. I stopped using their PC client long ago to only use uTorrent. (I know it's now owned by BitTorrent Inc, makers of BitTorrent, but they never made it to begin with and it's awesome)

For Android, though, I highly recommend tTorrent Pro.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ryjabo:
Another vote for tTorrent Pro. Works great and has a nice interface.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] carloscarvalho:
Thanks all for your answers. I always use utorrent on pc, i will try tTorrent Pro now

Enviado de meu Galaxy Nexus usando o Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
You will not be disappointed. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Terror_1:
You could also use Transdroid to connect to your desktop client to add torrents and whatnot. Works a treat when I need to download something when I am at work or at the park or whatever.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dj_m:
you can try adownloader
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NintendoSpy:
Has anyone tried the bittorrent client for Android? Never tried tTorrent before.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chancy319:
aDownloader is top notch. Fast, no speed limits, unlimited downloads and uploads etc.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Terror_1:
I've used it and it's like any other torrent client. I guess I would probably lump it closer to Transmission if anything. On 4g it will start really slow then max out the connection in no time.... the down side is that it will max out the bottom end of your battery really quickly as well. I can't say that I reccomend using tTorrent for an extended period of time. Works great in a pinch but you will have to kill it when you are finished.