yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Off-topic] UZ7:
Haha yeah just checked this morning, guess they finally fixed it! :victory:
[Off-topic] shaggyskunk:
Well, that was short lived! XDA's tapatalk is pooched Again :mad:

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[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Yep its freaking worse now than yesterday. I guess the old saying is true the mechanics car runs the worse in town so the developers app is always broken....
[Off-topic] shaggyskunk:
I was always wondering if forum runner had a purpose.... It does now!

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[Off-topic] BaconStep:
Oh man. YouTube is amazing.
[Off-topic] toyfj2k7:
I can't handle the nexus 7 forum. They just post the same **** over and over.
[Off-topic] :
Same thing here man what you talkin bout
[Off-topic] toyfj2k7:
It is way worse. Go check out the general section and its just repeat post of the same things over and over again. Its like they don't have a mod.
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Omg how many screen flicker threads do they need to solve the problem. And touch screen threads and I'm returning my nexus for the 7th time threads geez those dudes need a mod bad.
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
Everyday its something new in the nexus 7 section.
[Off-topic] shaggyskunk:
Chicken soup cures flicker ^_^

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[Off-topic] skrambled:
Koush posted this last night (see screenshot pic attached). I wonder how many "roms" will start showing up on xda that were really someone else's rom modified by a user and re-packaged. Not sure this is a good thing, but I'll have some fun with it.
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
someone should gift me cs:go on steam
[Off-topic] UZ7:
order a tv... get a sig!

http://dcist.com/2012/08/dc_resident_orders_tv_amazon_delive.php :good:
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
I should use amazon more often
[Off-topic] whassupmyninja:
I'd rather have a sig then a t.v.!
[Off-topic] MikeySmikey:
My wife just successfully talked AT&T out of a brand new white Skyrocket... FREE... with no contract renewal... and didn't use her upgrade. Now I need to give her my list of parts for my Mustang and let her work her magic.

Sent from outer space
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
I'll give her my account number if she can talk them out of a galaxy s3 for me....:D
[Off-topic] :
Can she get me Jetta parts please
[Off-topic] MikeySmikey:
My money says she could have if she wanted to. Not sure why she didn't.

Sent from outer space
[Off-topic] Fortune090:
I'd definitely say it'd be nice to be able to get, for example, Roger's CM10 build directly from his phone to see if somehow the camera would work on those who's camera doesn't work, showing that there's a difference there. Or if someone manually heavily themed their phone, they can share their rom pretty easily. Should definitely be a restriction on what can and cannot be posted.
[Off-topic] BenCronin04:
Made the switch from Apple, loving the phone so far!
[Off-topic] iandr0idos:
Congrats! You've left the dark side!
[Off-topic] chinthekng:
nice bro i remember my last iphone 4 after coming to android i never looked back and im the only one in my family who doesnt like apple everybody else worships it lol :silly:
[Off-topic] whassupmyninja:
You can ask them to watch stuff on safari? Doesn't flash not work? Or can they use html5?
[Off-topic] chinthekng:
im pretty sure they use html5 cus i dont think adobe ever supported iphone with flash
[Off-topic] shaggyskunk:
Does anyone have any thoughts about using the wi-fi at a Tim Hortons, for uploading nandroid backups & the like to Dropbox, or for downloading rom updates?

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[Off-topic] whassupmyninja:
Well not ever thing is html5? So theres something they cant view, watch or play :p

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I don't trust public wifi. Ive been looking for something to use at public wifi to make it secure, but to no avail. Things ive found is like orbot and droid vpn. I know you can create a SSH tunnel but i dont have my own server and dont want to risk my own computer. For doing sensitive things like nandroid backups and updates i wouldnt recommend it unless you want a brick :p
[Off-topic] chinthekng:
yeah haha but everytime i say android is better no matter how many reasons i give they always say apple is better but my dad's getting a gs3 soon so that'll be fun to tinker with :laugh:
[Off-topic] plwalsh88:
Explain to me exactly how using public wifi would cause a brick? Wifi has nothing to do with flashing. He's only asking whether or not he should upload his already created backups to dropbox while getting coffee. And to be honest, I don't even see where your concern with that lies....
[Off-topic] xcrazydx:
The thing about public Wi-Fi is man in the middle attacks and intercepting your traffic. As long as you're not entering passwords, doing your banking, etc i wouldn't worry about it.
[Off-topic] Jessical:
OS X is as thinkerable as Android, which is why I love it.
[Off-topic] :
Not even close man
[Off-topic] Jessical:
Do you even own a Mac? :P.
[Off-topic] chinthekng:
How so if I may ask cus I have a Mac os x pc and its not even remotely tinkerable
[Off-topic] :
Have you ever run Linux which android is built on or Unix which Mac based its os on then closed down Mac will never be as customizable
[Off-topic] Jessical:
Yes. :laugh:

It's not easy, and it changes every OS release, but you can graphically change the way it looks, the dock, the menu bar, the backgrounds of every element. Somewhat do what we do with our Android home screens.

I find it better than on my iPhone anyway, lol.
[Off-topic] chinthekng:
i do and it's pretty tied down :laugh:
[Off-topic] :
Never say a closed source software is more customizable you will lose the battle its not possible
[Off-topic] plwalsh88:
Haha especially on an android forum.
[Off-topic] :
Don't let the door hit you on the way out you said your Mac machine was as customizable as an android phone one comparing apples to oranges two your completely wrong as every facet of our system can be modded you Mac users can't do that at all your on a locked down os
[Off-topic] UZ7:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/gigapan/beach_volleyball/

Wonder if you can zoom anyone picking their nose :silly:
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Don't know but I've always heard a person could rob a bank with a booger. Just pick it threaten to put it on the bank teller and they will fill the bag lol....
[Off-topic] chinthekng:
lol that'd be hilarious
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
Ive never heard anyone say they love osx before.
[Off-topic] prbassplayer:
Although this thread is off topic it is not above the rules. Keep it clean guys. Thread cleaned
[Off-topic] :
Now your just getting ahead of me man lol:D
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1818986
[Off-topic] chinthekng:
cant access page
[Off-topic] specter07:
Anyone notice the same people are always thanking prbassplayer. Seriously, do they have nothing better to do than Follow all this post and locked threads? Talk about trolling.
[Off-topic] :
I'm the one getting threads locked cuz I'm tired of same threads and misinformation do you have a problem with it
[Off-topic] -Graff-:
Not off topic enough. Plus, who cares?

Scribbled on my I727 running SkyICS 4.2F6 v2.3
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Just seen a app on the play store that defragments your phone. OK I know what defrag does in windows PC but is that really necessary for phones? You guys are as tech smart some are more tech smart than me so tell me you guys take on defraging a phone. It has the option to do system, internal SD, or external SD. Just give me your feed back on what you think before I weigh in, I wanna see if you guys are thinking what I am.....
[Off-topic] :
Ssd which I'm assuming is basically what our internal mem is so defrag would be pointless as it would use wear leveling which distributes the mem evenly across the nand defrag would do no good mind you I'm not sure I'm right in the first place but pretty sure I'm along the same principal
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
are you serious?
[Off-topic] :
I'm tired of Google wallet threads 500 of em and every time same answer when will they get it

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We need uncle Irish back with some bacon
[Off-topic] prbassplayer:
Lol bro I'm just trying to keep the forums as orderly as I can in the little time I have. People want to thank me for that well I appreciate that but that's not why I do it. ;).

SSD fragmentate(?) same as HDD does. Difference is SSD are so fast it doesn't matter. As how it translate to Android? I have no idea. Our SD cards are usually pretty fast and (usually) any lag caused by this can be solved by messing with I/O schedule. Just my 2 cents
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Here is the description for the app that defrags android phones...

Top 10 in TOP NEW FREE Productivity Category Clears History Searches, Kills excess Tasks increasing Battery Life, all with ONE touch!**** "Android Defrag FREE is now one of the top 10 hottest apps on AppBrain.com" ***** "What an awesome app" - Editor's Pick Award from AppEggs.com PERMANENTLY ERASES INTERNET SEARCH HISTORY Cleans Memory Caches / Deletes Corrupted Files / Boosts Performance! Report Section detailing Used Memory / Free Memory / Repaired Files and Memory Usage PIE Chart! Streamlined design for ease of use (KISS Principle) for your Android Mobile & Tablet! Select either Phone Memory or SD Card from your list and click Defrag, its that easy! Beautiful User Friendly Interface Design! Auto Landscape Application Lock to prevent corrupted files or an interrupted Defrag! Created by Australian Developers Download the PRO versions direct from Google Play Store. Android Defrag PRO Features: Speed of the Process is increased by 60%! Increased battery optimization No Advertisements during ReportNote: Defragmentation is not permitted on a Mobile flash memory drive. Our software works in a similar way by moving, removing and repairing unwanted cache files and freeing up your Memory and RAM by killing unwanted tasks.

My thoughts is this could possibly brick a phone especially one with the brickbug problem. I've been wrong many times so if my thinking is wrong here please correct me. I know at the very least this app is useless but could it do harm or worse brick a phone?
[Off-topic] :
Its not even a defrag app its an overpriced taskiller lmao
[Off-topic] specter07:
I'm not disrespecting you, just people read it completely wrong. I think ita funny how people not even active in the thread would juat go an thank.
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
The delete corrupted files part is what scares me. How does the app determine what is corrupted and what's not? I don't know just got that gut feeling about this app...
[Off-topic] prbassplayer:
Keep in mind that they might not post but reported a thread/post. ;)
[Off-topic] shaggyskunk:
Er, android memory is Flash Memory & therfore can't become "fragmented", so any app that claims to defragment android is crap. :)

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[Off-topic] prbassplayer:
Sir I believe you are incorrect. SDcards can be fragmented but we (users) won't really feel any difference as it has no moving parts to access it (as a HDD). I believe the only performance issue might be a slightly slower write speed that can be solved with I/O schedule not "defragment" the card.
[Off-topic] shaggyskunk:
I'm only passing on what I've read,

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...s-android-defrag-apps-are-nothing-but-a-scam/

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[Off-topic] garydv2002:
That's what was on the tip of tounge about no moving parts in a phone where the PC hard drive does just wasn't sure how to word it. What would be your opinion on the app deleting corrupted files. My questions would be this

1. How would app know if a file is corrupted or not?

2. And I know PC files can be corrupted with viruses, spyware, or ad ware. I don't consider something missing from a file corrupted. So do phones actually have corrupted files. I mean has anyone ever really got a virus on their phone? And to me push notifications are not viruses they are annoying but not a virus or worm.
[Off-topic] iandr0idos:
There is no point in defragging our phones.

Here, I'll explain defragmentation for those who don't understand.

When your computer stores files, it saves them in sectors on your hard drive. Then, there is a table of contents in the front so the computer knows where the different parts of the files are. On a disk formatted as something like NTFS, this is necessary, since everything is compacted towards the front of the drive. That means that whenever you change a file, that new chunk of the file has to be saved behind all your other information. Then, your table of contents needs to be updated. As you use your computer more and change more files, files go everywhere and it takes significantly longer to access those files. Defragmenting reorganizes the hard drive so files are all in one piece and the table of contents is much simpler, thus optimizing the performance of the computer.

Our phones, however, are Linux-based. That means we run on an ext file system, not some crappy file system like NTFS or FAT32. Ext, by default, leaves some space between files so that when we change files, it simply replaces the empty spaces, rather than getting split up, keeping the table of contents simple and direct. This makes defragmentation useless until we fill the storage to full capacity.
[Off-topic] shaggyskunk:
Ok, but you're saying that our phones don't use "crappy file system like ntfs or fat32..",so what about the external sd card, they're formated using Fat32 or exfat, so do they need to be defragmented... reading the article from ap, it wouldn't seem so?

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[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Yes exactly if you don't defrag a pc, think of it as a unorganized filing cabinet defraging reorganizes those files so the PC don't have to read every file to find the one your looking for. It also compresses the gaps left by deleting large files. Those gaps also slow a PC down.

Now with that said our phones being on a different file system can files on our phone get corrupted? Now to me a file missing info isn't corrupt its incomplete. A corrupt file to me would be one with a virus of some kind am I correct?

So can our phones be corrupted by viruses?
[Off-topic] iandr0idos:
Have you seen that strange little folder that keeps popping up? LOST.DIR

That's where all the corrupted files go.

And a virus can screw anything up. Even files.
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Yea I seen that file never new what it was for. I'm a PC guy I can program, build websites, fix PC heck I'm even A+ certified but I still gotta lot to learn about phones. I'm learning though lol...

As far as the virus on phones it debated as much as the task killer debate is lol... some say yea some say nea.... but I'm learning. I read alot of Android phone info and probably ask to many questions lol but I've learned if you can start a good discussion like this you can learn alot you didn't know lol....
[Off-topic] shaggyskunk:
Anyone ever open it? Nothing in mine, well except the results for the future winners of the NHL, MLB, NBA The Masters & Women's Amateur Mud Wrestling Championship :D

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[Off-topic] PoXFreak:
Again, flash memory uses wear levelling. A defrag would not move the data at all, nothing changes.

We're talking a difference in nanoseconds, which is barely discernible by a human. The wear levelling algorithm is set by the manufacturer when the drive is built.
[Off-topic] shaggyskunk:
I'm actually agreeing with you. I'm definitely not a proponent of defrag apps for Android! Which is why I posted the link to AndroidPolice. I was only throwing in the bit about the external sd using Fat32 or exfat, to get some thoughts on that :)

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[Off-topic] UZ7:
Exfat will allow you to use larger file sizes than fat32 unfortunately the SR doesn't support this as well as other recoveries. I tested exfat on an S3 and it worked but the recovery also didn't support it.
[Off-topic] prbassplayer:
A quote from the link "Android uses flash memory, and flash memory does not benefit from defragmentation because fragmentation does not slow it down in the first place". Its not that it wont fragment its just the fact that it has no moving parts for it to suffer. As I've said Defragmentation won't really do much apart from shorten SDcards life expectancy.

A app can know if a file is corrupted. Android OS has many files that are the same on all devices and it can check to verify this by either a simple md5 (which needs a huge databank of md5s to compare on every single device) or doing a micro exe if each file (ei attempting to open and read it, which should worry everyone). Not saying this app does that just that in theory it could be possible.

Correct on most but quick thing. Ext file systems do fragment. Ext2 is very likely to Ext3 and Ext4 have a journaling system that helps against lost data and this, but they do fragment over time, but again Flash drives so it doesn't matter.

Fat 32 is the crappiest format ever and it does fragment and yes it does fragment. I've read on a few small sites that on Fat systems (even flash drives) could benefit from deframantation specially if its a slower card as, according to them, write speeds are affected. Personally I have no clue if this is true or not and I have 0 intentions of shortening anymore my extSD card as I already use it for swap.

Agreed
[Off-topic] shaggyskunk:
While we're still off topic, I'm getting a new Ultrabook (Samsung Series 9), it comes preloaded with 64 bit o/s. Am I right in thinking that there are some issues with 64 bit & things like odin & or copying backups to the pc?

Thanks :)

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[Off-topic] UZ7:
I'm on 64-bit and havent had any issues with odin or backups. Are you having specific problems?
[Off-topic] shaggyskunk:
No, I haven't picked it up yet (later today). I thought that I had read somewhere that some people did? IDK :)

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[Off-topic] UZ7:
Haha well I wouldn't worry about it too much. Been using 64-bit for a long time even before I got this phone and I never really had any specific problem that was caused from being on 64-bit. Flashed odin a lot of times in the past and backed up a lot and they worked fine. You will hardly find too many laptops with 32-bit nowadays unless they're using 3gb> ram as anything above will need 64-bit to fully utilize, so you should be fine. :good:
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There can be only one
[Off-topic] boobah204:
I am immortal, I have inside me blood of kings.

sent from my part of the problem
[Off-topic] zomgjosho:
Not since Windows XP 64 bit. Win 7 64 is a beast and you won't have issues.
[Off-topic] UZ7:
http://mckaylaisnotimpressed.tumblr.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCiY1y3uJ3o

Just some funnies :laugh:
[Off-topic] MikeySmikey:
We got the phone today. Immediately upgraded it but she won't let me do anything to it. She's missing out. Stock ICS on the Skyrocket is kinda boring. On another note, I traded the 3 day old SGS2 they sent us for warranty for about $700 worth of machine work on what's going to be a 331 stroker for my Mustang. Pretty sweet.

Sent from outer space
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Let's put away unfortunate past and seize glorious future... Spartacus...
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
I've been called a crazy redneck. Its time to prepare for the not so distant future. And I love guns...
[Off-topic] PoXFreak:
I wonder if that back cover would fit the infuse? Looks really similar, besides the speaker location...
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Nope my wife has the infuse and her back cover isn't rounded as much as mine is.
[Off-topic] UZ7:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6148/samsung-announces-a15malit604-based-exynos-5-dual

ooo wonder how this stacks up to the s4
[Off-topic] prbassplayer:
Mali > Adreno. CPU side don't know as that Exynos (32nm) is still bigger than Snapdragon S4 (28nm). Not to mention by then Qualcomm will have a S4 Quad around. Samsung is to late to the party I believe. It might be ~ or tad better than current S4 dual but won't compare to S4 Quad. But who really knows? lol Nothing to do but wait.
[Off-topic] UZ7:
I hope they go with the dual core route and just improve on that. Nothing needs quad core on phones atm as they're just gas guzzlers, sure they look good on benchmarks but if apps/games dont fully utilize them it would be a waste as most of the time people complain about their phones not having enough charge for a day rather than their browser not loading in 1 second. :silly:

Maybe they're going for dual core/higher clocks rather than more cores/lower clocks.
[Off-topic] chinthekng:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0

probly the most catchy song ive heard ever :silly:
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
opa gangnam style
[Off-topic] UZ7:
Lol its part of my sig and is my ringtone when it came out :p
[Off-topic] chinthekng:
lol i cant get that out of my head and the whole video is hilariouos in an awesome way :D

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haha no way it just became my ringtone right now :silly:
[Off-topic] roughneckboren:
Well guys its been a blast with the skyrocket but I broke down and bought a gs3. Keep up the amazing work over here! Gonna miss the rocket!

jellybeans on the 10.1 tab! my god the sweetness
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
On a related note I sold my tab 10.1 and my nexus 7 is next. Thinking about grabbing a one X or a note from the marketplace
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Didn't you just get your nexus 7? I hadn't heard any good or bad about it is there something wrong with it? Or you just don't like it?
[Off-topic] UZ7:
Got to brush up on my photoshop skillz :good:
[Off-topic] Uncle Irish:
Things are gonna get weird soon. I can feel it.....
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
let's get weird! Lets get weird!
[Off-topic] UZ7:
Had to do it! lol :good:
[Off-topic] madmax49201:
Whats this white line at the top of my screen? Sorry couldnt resist probably #1 newb question. U guys rock.
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
I just bought this skyrocket and wanted to know the exact release date for the official android 4.0 ice release???

Ha ha thats got to be the number 2 noob question....
[Off-topic] UZ7:
Could you be more specific? stock, rom? screenshots?
[Off-topic] armyveterangunner29:
Good morning guys !!!!!!!!
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Waaaaazzzzzz uuuuupppppppp
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
Google I/O RIGHT NOW

https://developers.google.com/events/io/

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DAT GALAXY NEXUS PRICE

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa
[Off-topic] tomtommy306:
Jelly Bean confirmed - Mid July.
[Off-topic] armyveterangunner29:
JB for the SR = next July
[Off-topic] droid512:
Ironic that i can't watch the videos about Android on my Android device

CM9 Skyrocket
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
Nexus S is still getting updates.

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you can stream it on youtube and chrome doesnt have flash.

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Who can get jelly bean booting on skyrocket first?
[Off-topic] plwalsh88:
Kitty.
[Off-topic] artiemon:
The Easter Bunny
[Off-topic] :
Kittybacon jellybean delight
[Off-topic] UZ7:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/google-chrome-for-android/

For all you Chrome fans, its officially out of beta. :cool:

------------

Actually they added a lot of other google app updates.

Chrome, Streetview, Youtube, Maps, Books, Movies.

Youtube looks different now and I think they added preload/cache for when you're on WiFi and you subscribe to people or do "watch later" it will precache it so you can watch it whenever.
[Off-topic] kishke:
noes! but I run into a win! http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/a...p_HV-Samsung-Galaxy-01-Overview-Promo_640x360