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[Off-topic] T.J. Bender:
1. The Second Amendment should not be abolished. For one, it would never happen, and arguing that it should is just blocking the real discussion from taking place. Two, the right to bear arms is one that's given second billing only to freedoms of speech, religion and the press. So where is this real discussion to be had? Simple. The Second Amendment does not specify number or type of arms that may be borne, just that "arms" are permitted. The logical middle ground is a complete ban on assault weapons, full auto or not, and strict limits on the number of firearms an individual/family may own. If a guy wants a .22 pistol for plinking, a .44 Mag for self-defense, then a .30-06 rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun for hunting, fine. But no one needs freaking 12 pistols, two assault rifles, six combat shotguns and 4,000 rounds of ammo.

2. No state can secede, period. States gave up that right when surrendering at the conclusion of the Civil War. Not that such a thing would stop a state from seceding if they put their mind to it, but the simple truth of it is that no one state could sustain itself independently, including Texas, California or New York. The US economy and government are so intertwined with what's happening on the state level that a hypothetical "Republic of Texas" would last about a week--and that's only if the US chose not to invade and take its state back.

3. Well, if you want to get technical, there have been several "first Presidents". John Hancock was the President of the Continental Congress when independence was declared on July 4, 1776, making him the de facto "first President of the United States". Elias Boudinot was the President of the Continental Congress when the Revolutionary War ended, meaning a case could easily be made for him as the "first President". But in the context you're referring to, I suspect the answer you're after is George Washington. ;)
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Actually I guess you could consider me a republican. I dont vote party let me get that out up front, I dont vote skin color, race, sex, or sexual preferences nor by what your religion is. I sit and listen to what the candidate has to say and even though most promise stuff they cant deliver I listen and vote for the "person" I feel can do the best job no matter their party.

I have nothing against gays, (im not) but dont have anything against them. I believe in the constitution so a persons religion is their business and long as no one gets hurt under the protection of "freedom of religion" ex sacrifice I believe all Americans have the right to any religion. As a matter of fact what I am is a man that believes in freedom true freedom and I believe strongly in our constitution. And yes I know we need laws and according to the constitution each state has a right to make its own laws and govern themselves. Now when I have a problem with the federal government is when they violate the constitution. As in my constitutional right to bear arms. If the government says ban guns and a state says no its legal here then thats the states right to do so according to the constitution without government interference. So I guess you could call me a independent because I dont think none of them up there have one clue what they are doing. But their good at looking stupid. Ex when a senator tells me I dont need a assault rifle then he shown on tv firing one at the firing range. So he can but I cant? See what I mean. I just believe in freedom and the constitution and im tired of this administration violating it at every turn

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Dont forget airplanes. Airplanes killed more people on 9\11 than guns did the whole decade. I would invite anyone to look at places where guns are illegal and see the crime rate has tripped. Why because the criminals still have guns but the law abiding citizens dont...
[Off-topic] mtdew:
I promise you blood will shed on a much higher scale if you take away more rights. Britain enacted tighter gun control and for years after they did their gun related issues rose exponentially.
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
The answer I was looking for was John Hanson. Independence was declared july 4, 1776 however it wasn't official till later... 1783 treaty of Paris.
[Off-topic] prbassplayer:
So before I go clean this thread I suggest you guys change topic.

Cheers

Sent from my Slim Bean powered Mako
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
You're right, it would never happen. At least not for a long time, we need a few generations to weed out the gun loving crazies (not saying if you have a gun you're crazy, but you know what gun nuts I'm talking about). We need stricter control and more focus on mental health care. That's about it. It's just too easy to get a gun.

I have no idea what plinking is.

Mk, you're a good Republican. We just disagree on the role of government. Just FYI, almost none of the liberal base wants to BAN guns (completely) - most just want basic controls put into place. Did you know databases between federal agencies and state law enforcment weren't integrated into the background check system? Did you know that the Center for Disease Control was BANNED from researching gun crime? Schools are now being ordered to be trained for active shooter situations. Those are a couple of things Obama fixed with his executive orders. Those are the types of small but obviously important fixes that we need. Democrats aren't trying to take your guns, we're trying to make ... less stupid situations. Like really? The CDC couldn't study gun crime?

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God forbid an actual level headed discussion happens. We should go back to circlejerking over how dumb iPhone users are!
[Off-topic] T.J. Bender:
You sure? I thought Elias Boudinot was the "President" when the Treaty of Paris was signed.
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
Dude. They have like 3 murders a year
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
Remember this? I just black mailed you lol. :p

We should all sit down and have a cup of Mtndew or coffee.
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
Tapatalk has a dark theme..... Wow.
[Off-topic] occupational_hazard:
But talking about seceding from the union. That can be the worst thing a state can do. If oklahoma does this, Im out. I will move. Think of how much federal funding will be pulled. Our state is broke already. It will be worse when they do. Hicks will be trying to make their own law then. Its already been talked about in local militia.
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Ok guys since we were told to change topics im gonna go start back to work on a s3 rom im building. Thanks for the discussion without argument or anger. We are adults who can discuss without anger or hate. We have a bunch of good guys here with different opinions and beliefs who have been brought together by these crazy gadgets we call android phones...

No hard feelings and no offence meant to anyone as I was not now or really ever been offended by a different opinion than my own...
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
USA was made with the Articles of Confederation. John Hanson was in office at that point, however, Elias Boudinot was the president in office during the first Treaty of Paris which declared USA as a free nation.

USA and India are 2 of the few countries that got freedom from Great Britain. Nations like Australia technically still belong to the United Kingdom. Meanwhile, GB does not have control of the Real City Of London, they own Westminister which is next to the City Of London in which they decided to place the name London on it to confuse merchants traveling down the Thames river. (I believe it is the Thames river.) Non of this would have been possible if it weren't for the Roman Empire.
[Off-topic] occupational_hazard:
Yes, Its the only I can deal with tapatalk. That orange cream soda theme is bright and annoying. And I will be D.C. in about a month. Furthest I will be from capital building is probably Crystal City. I usually spend all my time a few blocks away from capital building.
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
No offense was had by anyone, but apparently we aren't adults who can discuss things because we need to be told to change topics as soon as its anything other than 'iphone users are dumblol'.

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I'm usually around University of MD campus but I frequently go into the city. If you see a young guy at a bar who won't stop showing everyone his phone while ordering Captain and Cokes - it's probably me
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
When I went to DC I noticed three things. Bank of America is next to the White house, They have a two story McDinalds down the road of the white house, and no one could give me directions... M'urica
[Off-topic] T.J. Bender:
Yeah, that was one of the more engaging discussions I've had lately, and it was nice to see it kept civil. Further proof that this is the best OT thread on the web. "No politics" is a pretty standard rule, though, so can't fault prbassplayer too much. It would only take one nutjob to blow the thing up.

Huh, I'd always considered Boudinot the "first President", being that he happened to be the leader of the governing body when it happened to be released from foreign rule, thereby happening to leave him in charge of the thing. The Articles make sense as a starting point, though.

Also, Australians absolutely love to be reminded that they're still technically part of the British Commonwealth. :laugh:
[Off-topic] chinthekng:
Pretty sure you're in the wrong thread
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
Have you been reading our discussion all this time?
[Off-topic] chinthekng:
Somewhat but I'm on my phone and all the lines of text seemed a bit tedious. But if he wasn't in the wrong thread then my bad :p
[Off-topic] roughneckboren:
Stupid iPhone users.....haha.

I like the "arguing " that we do. Keeps this thread lively as long as it doesn't get pushed to far. Cmon pr.....let us kids have our fun
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
No he was definitely in the wrong thread, but now I'm interested in this changelog. WHAT CHANGED.
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
I went to Maryland, ran the half marathon of Baltimore, Maryland. I placed 3rd overall, I showed them how a southerners does it. Lol Then I spent the night in Bethesda which is next to DC. I did a jog around the capital therefore I could say. "Hey, I ran around the White House." I liked it thou because everyone was different. so many different people. the person i remember the most was a man from Ethiopia who had no clue where he was even thou he worked at a parking place and he was super happy about living in the USA like we should all be. He had recently moved to the US. :D
[Off-topic] chinthekng:
I bet he meant to post in the embryo thread. Damn noobs even managed to get mohan to lock his thread :(
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
Bank of America sucks - All about that Federal Credit Union. Also - McDonalds is gross

Also, I promise you that you had bad luck with directions. Especially in the Capital area EVERYONE is friendly. [Except for SouthEast DC - Anacostia area, don't go there. Just don't.]

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I'm a half pakistani/half swede. Me and my brother are the first generation of both sets of families living in the US. If you want diversity you can't get better than DC. You just can't.

Also, my parents live in Bethesda - nicest, peacefuliest place on earth
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
Bethesda was nice. I stayed in a Holiday inn then I ran around town made my way to DC, Bethesda had a nice park trail going behind all the houses. All the people we asked said. "I think it is this way..." or "I just moved here..." then they walked off like i wasn't their. I do want to say i did see legit homeless people their, unlike many of us who say were poor when we have cable and smartphones. Lol, it makes us appreciate what we do have. I agree McDinalds is the best thing ever ;).
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Well sad to say I thought the first pres was George Washington and I consider myself a history buff but I dont study American history as much as I should. Ive studied certain time periods of American history just not so much of who did what. I read more into the major wars and what brought us to that point. Like WW2, the civil war, and the revolutionary war. Im really big on roman empire history. The gladiators, all the roman wars and Julius ceaser. Now there was a dictator with a iron fist.
[Off-topic] bps119:
I'm just happy that TJ finally taught ya'll... or you people... or youse guyz how to spell secede. Jeez, I'm away from this thread for half a day and the most interesting discussion in the history of the thread happens. And I miss it.

Also, I don't want to hear anyone complain about weird or crappy weather. Come to the Ohio Valley and then tell me your weather is crappy and unpredictable.
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
Ok, yeah we do have quite a lot of beggars. But we take care of them. All the 24/7 fast food places let them sleep inside when it's cold (cause drunk college kids don't care) and apparently begging gets you the equivalent of 10ish dollars an hour for a days work in Bethesda. So that's not bad I suppose.

Also, why didnt you use Google maps! It's the capital! They have directions for everywhere
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
It is always good to learn something new. I personally like to learn about History and Human Anatomy. i find it amazing how our body acts and what we are made of and where we come from. for instance, why do we feel need to care for an animal that is no where superior or any where related to us. Apparently it comes from the same place in which we feel joy of raising a kid and nurturing. but the way our body and mind work will be something we will never truly understand. in the other hand, history is another thing. :cool:

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I see you read my word "You" rant perhaps? :p
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
I was a newb. Plus, I had no juice on my battery. This was the only picture I took that day because my phone died on me. There for I took the picture before it gave me that "You only have 5% battery left" Message that won't let me take pictures
[Off-topic] occupational_hazard:
I spend most of my time at the Dubliner, not too far from Union Station. And we party all night at the Billy Goat Tavern.
[Off-topic] mtdew:
Yes now but early on it was on the rise after their gun control laws went into effect.
[Off-topic] hechoen:
Same here. Less than 12 hours off the grid and I miss one of the most important conversations in the history of the internet. LLOL. Now if I could only type fast enough on mobile I'd be able to give the final answer to the topic.:D
[Off-topic] Apex:
Jerkoff:

ΧΔΑ Fraternity's Godfather. Read About Our History!
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
That's my city my friend. Good picture
[Off-topic] occupational_hazard:
every picture I had, I had on my internal storage. And then I used Dark side wipe and erased every single one. A lot of them I had from my trip to capital building. Had a little bash in the Edgar J Hoover room. I go twice a year.
[Off-topic] bps119:
You all may want to check out the 4.2 development thread. There's some interesting things going on over in the herc forum.
[Off-topic] RastarNation:
Just wondering if you guys can help me narrow my options or stare me in the right direction. My family and I have own several Toshiba's over last 4-6 years or so and at the end of the day they all shared the same issues we experienced. Our main issues are overheating(whether on a hard or soft surface) and hard drive/hardware failure within 2 years(Always right after the warranty is up unfortunately). We usually buy the low end Toshiba's as well($300-400 price range). I don't know if that makes a big difference or not.

This time around we are looking any other brand than Toshiba, but I was wondering if we will run into the same issues or do different brands and the more expensive laptops actually makes a difference? I don't expect it to last forever but we have been disappointed too many times with Toshiba laptops. Anyone care to recommend a decent laptop to look into? Thanks in advance.
[Off-topic] mindmajick:
Typical. Looking for trouble.
[Off-topic] droidbabyxda:
+1.. bahahha... I don't like assult riffles or all those high powered guns. This I know though, as the population grows poorer and life gets harder crime (murder, rape etc.) rate shoots up. More work, more education, better life and good home life is the only solution.:)
[Off-topic] iandr0idos:
Buy Samsung, Lenovo, or ASUS. I'd also recommend paying the higher price for a higher-end computer. It'll be faster and will last much longer than your $300 laptops.

My recommendations:

Samsung Series 9

Samsung Series 7 Chronos

Samsung Series 7 Ultra

Lenovo Ideapad U410

Lenovo Ideapad U510

Lenovo Ideapad Yoga

Lenovo Thinkpad T420s

Lenovo Thinkpad W530

ASUS Zenbook Prime UX31A

ASUS Zenbook Prime UX31A Touch

ASUS Zenbook UX32VD

These are all light, thin, and powerful. The Samsung ones are all beasts. I have the UX32VD and it's a pleasure to use. I also expect it to last me for another 3 or 4 years.
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
???

Looks rude i guess. I didn't mean to be rude, now that i read it again it seems bad. Usually when you read text every word seems to carry a different tone then what the writer intended.

We had a big conversation and it was suppose to be more like. "Lol, did you read all the stuff we posted, it was crazy?" Not a "Don't be looking at our conversation."

I believe you must've thought I meant the second statement. Reading text is confusing! :D

Fun Fact: Couples argue the most, when texting, because they are missing body language and are reading the text with the tone and feeling they believe the writer intended.
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
I'm a fan of HP laptops; they get hot but that's about the only issue with them. Whatever you go for, remember to Google for 'XXX brand coupons'. You'll be able to knock off 100 bucks, maybe more.

FYI; I have a 600 dollar laptop (without the coupons probably would have been 850ish). It's been 3.5 years and it's still perfect.
[Off-topic] Mike:
You can say that again. I got $300 off my hp laptop and I helped a family member get 33% off a $1300 hp laptop. A simple search can't certainly save you $$$. If you keep an eye out there are really good deals out there, updated all the time

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[Off-topic] xcrazydx:
HP sucks

These are great
[Off-topic] Brad.S.:
Wish I could get a Series 9 w/256geebez.. I've had an eye on that line since the first gen.

Having a laptop would help so much with college.. Computer labs are always crowded and there is always that one person that is just unbearable.

For ex: I was just sitting in a lab at my University and there was this larger female using the computer about 3 rows away. Every 10 seconds she would burp... She'd sip some coffee then burp. Sip then burp. I was waiting for her to rip a fart.

Beyond that.. She had headphones on and she would just laugh as loudly as possible. No respect for others.

Maybe I'm a little OCD..

/rant

Been off of here since Monday.. So sad I missed the deleted areas lol
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
They don't. But okay
[Off-topic] hechoen:
HP is great. When you call their tech support you actually speak to someone who's native language is English. But to each their own.
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
HP is balls.

/thread
[Off-topic] xcrazydx:
I know
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
HP does not suck, Dell and Mac do.

HP is awesome. :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
Whatever you say :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
How? Lol. :confused:
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
Dell for the most part does suck. Their precision line is amazing though on the other hand.
[Off-topic] prbassplayer:
I haven't owned a Sony but all my friends decided they where cool and I've made so much money of them. HDD locking up ram frying out LCD back lights going out. All different models all sucked. So no, personal experience, Sony laptops sucked. And all of them have required at least 3 clean outs and re applying thermal paste. 6 different machines 5 different models all bought in about the same 6 month period. Like I said never owned one but theirs where bad.
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
Sony is iffy then. A few of my friends have vaios and havent had any problems.
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Apple ha ha ha....

The big problem I have with a lot of these companies and their laptops is now they have started making them cheap throw aways. Meaning its easier and cheaper just to buy another one rather fix the one you have.

The power supply problem Acer had that I was talking about was on there desktops. They make good desktops today but get a poor grade in the laptop area.

I haven't purchased a dell in a few years but back in 2005 when I worked for them building computers their desktops and laptops were top of the line..

I think the biggest problem today is operating systems that require so much ram to run and people buy the cheapest PC with just the bare minimum amount to run it and get pissed when its slow. Windows XP was the last OS that required under 1 gb to run. Both vista (which is junk) and windows 7 require at the minimum 1 gb to even boot. But for them to perform fast especially if you game the minimum isn't gonna cut it. I recommend at least 2 gb but wouldn't go any lower than 4 gb if it were me. So many blame their slow PC on a internet connection when in fact its their ram bogging them down....
[Off-topic] PoXFreak:
Sony is like Motorola in the sense that there are no mid line choices, its either good or its garbage.

I've had multiple business sector dell lappys and none have ever given me a problem. Not sticking up for them, just never had problems with them.
[Off-topic] mindmajick:
The BIGGEST problem is all the crap the manufacturer installs. I find with and of those lappys.. wipe em do a clean install.. most run just fine.

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[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Yea from experience the Vaio is good but not sure about their other models.,.. I haven't seen to many come in to work on so I figured they were OK....
[Off-topic] mindmajick:
Gary.. tell me you don't work for Geek Squad.

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[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Bacon congrats on being the 400th post in this thread... you post whore lol.....
[Off-topic] BaconStep:
loool
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
No I had a friend that owned a vaio and never had any problems but yes I did work for dell in Lebanon ten. That where I got my A+ cert at made them pay for it lol
[Off-topic] armyveterangunner29:
I can't stand these Way over sensitized egotistical mfers that freak out over the sligHtest oveRsight and thAn continue to ask for sympathy from theIr Noob followers that still continue to kiSs their asses afterwards. /end rant
[Off-topic] mindmajick:
Yup. Yes. Yup lol

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[Off-topic] garydv2002:
According to wiki the number of lines of code in

1. Windows 7 over 50 million.

2. Android OS over 20 million

3. Facebook over 100 million.....

Its bad when it takes more code to post a damn status that says "drinking coffee" than it does to run the most popular operating systems on the planet.....
[Off-topic] iandr0idos:
Damn... the most code I've done for a website is probably around 1 million... nowhere near these giants... :(

And on the topic of laptops, Lenovo makes amazing laptops. Thinkpads have the best build quality ever, as in you can run it over with a car. And the keyboards are so nice...