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[Windows Phone 8 General] Sholokov:
Not every innovation is useful to everyone. How many people you know would want a projector in their phone if you tell them it would double the size and weight of their phone. Reality is, that quad core phone would require more space and heat sinks for heat dissipation. Our battery technology is also a lagging factor now. Current battery technology won't even give you 10 hours of medium usage with quad or more cores. We are jumping the gun here. If the apps are not designed properly, they would probably run slower on quad core than dual core because of constant switching.
[Windows Phone 8 General] ohgood:
mmm, OK...

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yes most people don't want to carry a VCR either... oh wait, someone innovated, miniaturized, and manufactured a better way to record, edit, and playback movies.... and it also happens to connect to the internet, and a few other things.

dual cores weren't a big deal to folks either, until wp7 finally got some.
[Windows Phone 8 General] mateusm:
Nokia Lumia 920 supposedly packing wireless charging. Exciting news!

Source: http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/3/3286656/nokia-lumia-920-wireless-charging-specs-camera-pureview

OP updated.
[Windows Phone 8 General] narta:
WP8 Surface? :laugh:
[Windows Phone 8 General] mateusm:
Lumia 820 & 920 charging dock: (imagine this beauty, in black or white)

Source: https://p.twimg.com/A14E7xDCcAIPttH.jpg
[Windows Phone 8 General] vetvito:
^ website

http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/9/3/3288894/nokia-lumia-920-wireless-charging-pad

⚡sent from my Nexus S ?

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Anyone know if LEDs will actually be useful this time ?

⚡sent from my Nexus S ?
[Windows Phone 8 General] ohgood:
imagine it , three years ago on a palm pre.

this is the flagship, with -almost- pure view, 2011 CPU, and 2011 ram?

where's the monster 41mp, 1.8tri core, 2gb ram , 4.3" dream machine?
[Windows Phone 8 General] lrhage:
Is it really needed? :rolleyes:

I'm in love with Lumia 920 :victory:

EDIT: All WP8 devices will use MSM8960 chip. PC Mag benchmark:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400409,00.asp
[Windows Phone 8 General] ohgood:
cool, wpx gets a fast chip, and benchmarks matter again!

should be competitive for a while!
[Windows Phone 8 General] redviper666:
As opposed to some magical device that's competitive for ever?
[Windows Phone 8 General] ohgood:
different kind of magical.... they were comparable to last years phones.
[Windows Phone 8 General] lrhage:
Last year and today phones. I don't get yopur point... are last year phones outdated now?

If all WP8 phone are using the same chip, the OS and games/apps will be high optimized. And WP8 support more than 2 cores.
[Windows Phone 8 General] AbleAmazing:
http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/05/nokia-lumia-920-official/
[Windows Phone 8 General] mikeeam:
Holy sht. Lumia 820 is so ugly that I'm sorry for my Lumia 800 to have any relation with it. Looks like HTC.

And Microsoft is crazy. Jellybean is already in the wild. iOS 6 is around the corner. And MS is holding the news from WP 8? Or they are still doing some goodies, or they are really paranoid about WP 8.
[Windows Phone 8 General] lrhage:
We know a lot of features of WP8, and they are showing a functional WP8 phone on the Nokia Event.
[Windows Phone 8 General] mikeeam:
Yeah, but we know a lot because of SDK leak.

And I really want to know if 7.8 is just homescreen of at least some new features. There is a lot to see yet.
[Windows Phone 8 General] AnyMal:
"Ugly" is a subjective term. I think it looks just dandy and have a feeling that a target audience (16-30 crowd) will eat them up, provided Nokia/MS will price it smartly and will get it to as many carriers as possible.
[Windows Phone 8 General] circleofomega:
V v honestly as the dust settled and I'm thinking about it...I'm not liking it..

It IS mediocre specs. That's that...hate me like me...its a fact.

Very minuscule changes in a time like this...

Agree??

No pureview, no quad or octa-cores, no 2 GB RAM..no nothing... :(

Sent from my DROID RaZr.
[Windows Phone 8 General] htc9420:
The only thing that scared me when looking at ATIV S is maybe Apple were indeed right when they said Sammy hasn't got any design dept....:D...it looks like anything from Galaxy line phones, much alike SGS2...just looking at the ugliness of the Win8 button made me spill my cofeeeeeee

hey Sammy, wake uppppp!
[Windows Phone 8 General] mateusm:
Epic fail from Nokia's advertisement on the Lumia's PureView:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3294545/nokias-pureview-ads-are-fraudulent

If you guys watch the video, watch until the end.

Fake fake fake fake, fake fake, fake. :( Why Nokia, why?
[Windows Phone 8 General] ohgood:
man, all they had to do was glue three phones to a 2x4..... two facing the girl, one facing the two facing the girl.

guess we'll just have to trust a corporation to tell the truth, and be good little early adopters.
[Windows Phone 8 General] circleofomega:
Nokia apologises. Not exactly...but almost.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/lumia-920-pureview-video-filmed-with-different-camera/
[Windows Phone 8 General] BrokenRetina:
When are people going to learn that there is hardly any software that is optimized for quad-core or above cpus??

You don't need a quad-core cpu in a mobile device if it is optimized (which WP is, see WP7). The more cores, the higher the drain on the battery.

The specs for these 2 phones are perfect, if you want quad/octa core, buy a ultrabook, get a magicjack and be happy.

LOL at samsung making everyone think they need "specs.".

So if this is the case if the next iPhone doesn't have a quad-core its a failure.
[Windows Phone 8 General] DDReaper:
That would be true if quad core would drain more battery than mono/dual core but that's not exactly true...
[Windows Phone 8 General] ohgood:
from a sales standpoint, it -needs- that sticker that says "quad core" to be considered by consumers.

if the consumers don't buy it, the devs will not pursue those consumers, and we'll see wm6/wp7 happen all over again. Nokia needs to do everything possible to attract consumers , right now, not "coming soon".

if coming soon means anywhere near the slew of androids this holiday season, or horrors of horrors, an iPhone launch, Nokia might as well make cameras instead of phones anymore.
[Windows Phone 8 General] mikeeam:
Actually, quad-core is pretty nice, yes, but if people try a dual-core WP8 and a quad-core Android, without knowing the specs, they would easily say WP is the quad-core. WP is lag free even with single core. So why should they sacrifice battery, get higher prices, just to satisfy the minority that loves specs?

I dont care about specs at all. My core2duo notebook is almost as fast as my friend's i7.
[Windows Phone 8 General] ohgood:
because Nokia needs -every- single customer they can get.... as does Microsoft in the mobile market.

this has nothing to do with battery life, supposed lag, camera Mp, comparisons or anything else except sales.
[Windows Phone 8 General] circleofomega:
Ah the classic case of spec vs performance. This is turning out to be so much fun.

Yes specs are needed to attract customers. Period. There are 10 phones with dual cores. And 2 phones with quad. I even have friends who understand jack$hit about technology but just ask me "Which one is more?" The moment I say quad, they are deaf to all other arguments. "BUT BUT The fact that dual-core WPs are waaaayyyy better than Android Quads" is something I only hear myself saying. They are out there, swiping their cards on quad-Droids.

The fact that you don't need quad core is ur problem and not the customers. And not like the prices are drastically different.

Sent from my DROID RaZr.
[Windows Phone 8 General] BrokenRetina:
You do realize that majority of phones are dual core? In fact majority of the new android devices have the same ****ing cpu!

You don't like WP, we get it. Stop trying to convince people that you NEED a quad-core phone jesus christ.

And yes quad-core consume more energy. If that wasn't the case you wouldn't need a 2000+ mA battery.

The only then you could use as ammo against the Lumia 920 is the lack of sd support but even then its not enough as majority of people don't install ever single app, and don't need more then 10gb for music. If you need more then 32gb for music and apps on your phone either you don't pay attention to anything around you and are glued to your phone 24/7 or are just nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking.

Be happy with your Samsung Android device and stop posting BS because you don't like WP or are jealous of it.
[Windows Phone 8 General] circleofomega:
Are u talking to me?

Sent from my DROID RaZr.
[Windows Phone 8 General] ohgood:
I'm not certain who you are referring to....

but...

you realize that a quad, quaint or 32 core sticker on the device would be something wp sales folk could show off to perspective buyers , right?

ANYTHING it has that iPhone and android devices do not will be a selling point. dip it in jam, sell the prospect of good tastes!

as is , I see very little discussion on xda, or any reputable board about wp8, anywhere. Nokia and ms NEED to have something to sell besides "its new!!!!1" as a "feature".

the camera / video fakes got backlash right off the bat... was that their main focus to market it? oh no!
[Windows Phone 8 General] BrokenRetina:
So why is the SIII in north america dual-core, just like every other phone.

Umm a touch screen that can be used with gloves, a image stability camera, nokia city lens...the phone has a ton of features, and WP8 wasn't official introduced you know that right?

I get it now. You want Nokia to copy Samsung, who copies Apple. Ok.
[Windows Phone 8 General] ohgood:
because that s3 built on the s2's success, and the os wasn't a newcomer. just like the iPhone 4gs built on.... see the pattern?

they don't -need- gee wiz hardware specs to set them apart and attract consumers , a newcomer does.
[Thunderbolt General] Google_Nexus:
Okay android. 4.1 will be released at Google io this week so how long until cyanagen gets it for our phone. At this point skip ics as its yesterday old crappie crap on a stick. We should have it like how apple releases ios they do updates so quick why can't you we. This is stupid and full year after ics we don't have it.....
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
Didn't mean to post. Sorry
[Thunderbolt General] phio:
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[Thunderbolt General] trter10:
Be happy we're getting ICS. This is a year and a half old phone.

The only reason apple updates for so long is because it has literally like 6 devices to update. HTC has like 30+, all with diffrerent RIL, screen sizes, ram, processors, and carriers.

The CyanoogenMod developers don't work for you, don't expect anything from them.
[Thunderbolt General] androidrookie84:
I'm cool with just getting ICS
[Thunderbolt General] Google_Nexus:
Never I want 4.1 android
[Thunderbolt General] donnyp1:
Then build it for us or buy a new phone, but dont demand anythinh
[Thunderbolt General] Google_Nexus:
I am an American, I can demand anything....
[Thunderbolt General] mvh11:
Android 4.1 is a stupid simple update from ICS. It isn't all that different and a lot of stuff will carry over. The developer's well get 4.1 running as soon as they can, if they can. The reason we don't have ICS is because we don't have a RIL yet. That should come with the first ICS leak.

If Apple's release schedule is superior then I think it's time for you to go buy an iPhone.The dev's are already pretty stressed out about this, and they do all their work for free. You honestly don't have the right to demand anything.

If you want the latest updates immediately after they come out, you should have bought a Nexus device.

Also, Cyanogenmod isn't the only AOSP build out there, and there are many better ones. I'd research into most of them, since the active CM developers for the Tbolt are working with 7, not 9(which is ICS based) it could be a while.

I also hope that your american comment was not serious, but it doesn't matter. The damage is done. Attitudes like that are the reason that a lot of other nations look down on the US and consider the citizen's ignorant and stupid.
[Thunderbolt General] imarcel99:
Cant wait for 4.1 for my SGS2 :D

Tapatalked from Outer Space
[Thunderbolt General] Google_Nexus:
what i am saying is that it is stupid how long it takes from the time google/moto releases the code to it gets to us on our phones. Even the sprint nexus s took over 6 months to get out.... why cant it be quick like apple is all i am saying since they too have many devices to support fromt he 3gs, 4, 4s and soon the 5.

and when the world has a problem who do they call? THE USA! True Power is not given... It is TAKEN.... J.R. Ewing
[Thunderbolt General] quickdraw86:
The thunderbolt is an older device now, it has a single core CPU and there are now phones that are quadcore with better screens and hardware. If you don't like the selection of roms our developers have made available to us, like you said, you're an American, you have the free choice to get another phone or learn to port jellybean to the bolt yourself.

Sent from my highly tweaked and customized Thunderbolt 4G!
[Thunderbolt General] donnyp1:
Easily the dumbest comment in a long time.
[Thunderbolt General] Google_Nexus:
Because I feel jellybean is easily installed as it is only a dot release so we are intitled to it.
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
We wont see an official release of that and the only way we will is through development. Im honestly surprised that the phone manufacturers are even updating the thunderbolt and some of the others to ics. People aren't going to go out and buy a thunderbolt because it has ics. Theyre going to buy the new badass phone with a gazillion freaking cores in it that all dont even operate most of the time.
[Thunderbolt General] Google_Nexus:
I spent $50 and want jellybean as now ice cream sandwich is so last year....
[Thunderbolt General] mikeschevelle:
You are entitled to nothing more than the way the phone was when you bought it.

You are not American, your the problem WITH America
[Thunderbolt General] leoingle:
so let me make sure I understand this right. ICS is only on about 7% of the devices on the planet but you are crying and *****ing about a version of android that isnt even out yet not on a year and a half old device. i refuse to acknowledge all the other ignorant stuff you said because this was enough.

do the board a favor and next time you want to say something.... dont.

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yeah, Happy Trolling idiot.

^^^ THIS ^^^
[Thunderbolt General] orkillakilla:
Google_Nexus is obviously trolling, only saying these things to piss people off for the "fun" of it. Replying only provokes it and is what he wants. This thread should be closed.
[Thunderbolt General] Google_Nexus:
I do own a tbolt and feel as I posted. We are due jelly beam and key lime pie also. I am a demanding owner.
[Thunderbolt General] Google_Nexus:
Born and raised in American unlike obama.
[Thunderbolt General] mikeschevelle:
More like born and raised an inbred
[Thunderbolt General] JaymzTA:
Not sure if OP is trolling...or just plain stupid...
[Thunderbolt General] bofhemeritus:
Posts like this make me die a little inside.

How long would it take for you to take the Google source tree, merge it with Cyanogen, compile it for an emulator, test it out in an emulator, then apply the drivers, RIL, etc?

Seriously, don't ask for ETAs for code that's not even public yet...
[Thunderbolt General] Freddynz:
Well i am Kiwi and i really like Americans ! (as do the silent majority)

Google Nexus has a point, not in demanding the latest mods from Cynogen as they do it for free, much like the jailbreak community for IOS... but that the carriers/ maufacturers should be providing waaaay more support for those devices they sell their customers at a premium. As for how long, my iphone 4 is almost two years old yet i'll be getting IOS6 the day it releases, Apple charges alot for their phones but they also back up with after-sales service. Perhaps Google needs to work closer with it's partners to ensure a better update release cycle !

Oh by the way i've just got a SGS3, i'm not an ios fanboy trolling !
[Thunderbolt General] bofhemeritus:
Perhaps in a perfect world, Google could do this - however, consider the fact that Apple controls the hardware platform as well as the software platform. When they release IOS, it works perfectly on all three?... four?... models of the iPhone. Now, take a look at the Google side... Google releases the code for their supported phone, the Nexus series. Then, they provide that code to the other phone manufacturers - Sony, HTC, Samsung... and so on. Each of those phones has a different radio manufacturer... and different chip for the camera, a different chip for the wifi, different displays, different resolutions...

And, then each of the manufacturers have to include their bloatware - Sense, Blur, whatever... and, once that's done, the manufacturers submit their "golden image" to the carriers...

Then, the carriers add their bloatware - and after all of the above steps, that final, bloated image is tested, then tested again. After it finally passes QA, it's buried in moist peat for at least six weeks, recycled as cat litter pan liners, then finally put on the public website.

... I think I may have mixed up some Douglas Adams in the above, but it's pretty close.
[Thunderbolt General] Google_Nexus:
Google can control the hardware and but a stop to sense, blur, touchwiz and the rest.... Thy just need to grow a Google and make phones only with Motorola since they own them. Also Samsung wants to make its own operating system to bypass Google and keep the money for sammy
[Thunderbolt General] donnyp1:
More like an idiotic owner
[Thunderbolt General] sailio:
So the thunderbolt is confirmed to get ics? I was going to replace it with the incredible LTE
[Thunderbolt General] Google_Nexus:
Confirmed by HTC, however Verizon is another story.
[Thunderbolt General] mvh11:
I don't think they necessarily have to provide support as they do have other business ventures that they need to take care of. Would you buy an outdated PC because it can run Windows 7, or would you buy a high end gaming PC that runs Windows 7 today? If it was promised before you bought it, I would understand, but we bought it, and then received the promise afterwards.

Then again, I bought this phone for hardware, and not software, so I have a different opinion. I payed $200 for this phone(2yr contract), and I'm perfectly happy with that. I do want to switch to Sprint, but that's because of Verizon's crazy politics that wants to charge me more for less and think I won't care. Sprint's rolling out LTE and the nextel bandwidth is getting converted over to Sprint's devices, so coverage should get better(not to mention network vision for better data).

I am 100% content with my Thunderbolt, running Slayher's Cyanogenmod 7.1 build. I get a lot of added stability and speed I didn't have before and even though it's an older version of CM7, it is more stable and reliable(running @1.6ghz, and I still get better battery life than stock). Running the latest software doesn't mean you are running the best software by any means.

I'd love some ICS or Jellybean on this phone(AOKP, anyone?), but I'm happy with what I have now, and Jellybean isn't all that special compared to ICS.

To the OP:

Learn a bit about the Linux architecture, and get working on a Jellybean port for the Thunderbolt once the source is released. If it is as simple as you say it is, you should have no issues doing it. If you cannot, the rom developers will get it done eventually, so be patient with them.
[Thunderbolt General] mrkite38:
People. Don't feed the trolls.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] redfusion87:
I want the new baseband for the improvements.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] cainG2x:
No, you have to go back to stock to update BB unfortunately. This is what I did, worked perfect.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1696266
[T-Mobile LG G2x] redfusion87:
So revert to stock and then download new baseband, then I can just restore what I have now?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] cainG2x:
Ya, you have to re nvflash CWM recovery again tho because when you update you lose root. And you might need to flash the BB fix in owains thread for calling to work properly, or else you just hear a popping noise on a call. Just flash it right after you restore your backup.
[Transformer TF300T General] ricardowec:
I want to start this thread to encourage Android Custom Rom Devs so we all can enjoy and benefit from their work.

We have seen incredible work built for other similar devices (eg: Asus Transformer TF101, Transformer Prime TF201,, Motorola Xoom, Samsung Galaxy Tab, and others). I don't want to mention any particular team or Dev, but we all know extraordinary people out there. Please jump on the TF300 bandwagon..we need you.

Cheers

Sent from Chanook 300
[Transformer TF300T General] cavsoldier19d:
Actually, my vote goes for a custom stock ROM for those of us who like the stability and features of asus roms.
[Transformer TF300T General] Thing O Doom:
Makelegs builds of cm9 and aokp are great AOSP and what you guys have afasthat. You also seem to have an AOKP build up

I'm willing to try and put something together as I have a tad of experience with the TF101, but I don't have a tf300 to test with and I'd rather not accidentally brick a bunch of people with a bad release.

-shrugs-
[Transformer TF300T General] ricardowec:
+1 to this also

TEAM EOS.. where are you guys??
[Transformer TF300T General] turdbogls:
you know the TF300's stock rom is like 99% aosp right? the only thing i have noticed is the status bar has the toggles built in, the status bar locking thing, and some different icons for the back,home, multitask. and the addition of asus' "bloat" apps.

but as someone already said, there are some CM9 and AOKP builds available already. they may not be official builds, but that is only because the AOKP team doesn't have a tf300 to work with.
[Transformer TF300T General] sound.wav:
Gotta have some patience bro :D We do have talented devs for this tablet already. Don't forget its only been out a month or 2 and its gonna take time for people to make the jump to this tablet. Give it time this community will grow

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Transformer TF300T General] ricardowec:
You are somehow correct my friend but... encouraging does not mean lack of patience.

There is quite a bit of development done for a very similar device ( TF201 )... actually a couple of CM9 roms are branched from TF201 development.

There are other gadgets out there launched on the same date the TF300 was and there are custom kernels as well as AOSP and AOKP roms.. so, yes,... lets be patient but let them know we are waiting.

Cheers.
[Transformer TF300T General] sound.wav:
Yeah we'll get all that too no need to be jelly :p haha

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Transformer TF300T General] rich.x87:
True. This awesome device needs more attention. I'm teaching my self coding so I hope some day have a custom build out there.

I got this tablet 48 hours ago and already running this custom rom with Apex Launcher. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1750861

I saw you wondering in that thread as well.

And I do have to say that you don't enjoy the amazing Android experience until you start flashing. :p
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frankquattrone:
I stopped using my Streak over a year ago when I moved to Sprint. I'm going to Europe for a month so I need to go back to the Streak. I haven't been keeping up with the ROMs on the Streak so looking for some quick advice. What are the key differences between DSC 1.1, Longhorn 2.8 and CM7.2 RC0? My key criteria is stability. I also need Google Maps and wasn't sure if freezing it for DSC meant not being able to use it. Beyond that, I'd love to have extended toggles in the notifications area. Also, is there a guide to upgrading from StreakDroid to one of the new ROMs? Thanks.