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[Off-topic] skyrocketeer:
I'm surprised the Skyrocket is still chugging. This wonderful community made it a great first android device to have
[Off-topic] MobiusShazarr:
I'm happy that I got my skyrocket instead of the s3

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
[Off-topic] jd1639:
With all the locked boot loaders these days I'm hanging on to the rocket as long as I can. Thankfully we have great devs!
[Off-topic] T.J. Bender:
My Skyrocket still serves me well as a handheld gaming machine and a backup phone. It's sitting on my desk right now, actually, cycling through batteries.
[Off-topic] mtdew:
Emulators ftw.
[Off-topic] mindmajick:
My skyrocket works great still. I've said it before... Until this thing dies (or all the devs move on) I have no need for a new phone.

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Sent from my mind to your screen.
[Off-topic] mtdew:
If all the devs move on you and me will have to build our own lmao.
[Off-topic] dlightman:
I don't post much, but I've still a loyal SR user.

I really appreciate the Devs who have stuck it out. Thanks!
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
I have mine in the car as a music player and GPS system. Did you know the GPS works without data? You just need to download the USA map so far it has been really helpful it gives you spoken directions and best of all I don't go over my data limit on my current device. :D
[Off-topic] mindmajick:
Nah. I've gotten too lazy for that. Full time job that I like, finally.

No time... Retiring from the IT field PERMANENTLY.

Stay calm and vape on.

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Sent from my mind to your screen.
[Off-topic] MobiusShazarr:
Vape for the win....

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
[Off-topic] droidbabyxda:
We just changed our pw... I even cleaned up the pcs for malwares... my tenants upstairs were using our wifi... of course they denied downloading anything. Sucks... hope that sht stops.
[Off-topic] xcrazydx:
It was your tenants or someone else you gave the password to. Don't give anyone the password.
[Off-topic] ozziedog:
Have you changed the SSID to something other than the default name?

Try hiding the SSID, set MAC Filter to only devices you want to use your router, have one password for router and one for your network. Make passwords with combinations of letters both lower and upper case, numbers and special characters.

Its not perfect to keep a determined individual but maybe will keep your casual individual from piggy backing on your network and as someone pointed out don't give your password to anyone. Good luck:)
[Off-topic] Fortune090:
So a 4G tower just turned on in my small little city yesterday... This is so bizarre, but it's about freaking time, haha.
[Off-topic] mtdew:
I want everyone to be aware I stayed away from the crap in the cm thread I did not accept the trollbait.
[Off-topic] car vs driver:
Thank you. I'm reporting the thread so it can be cleaned up.
[Off-topic] mtdew:
I'm not out to derail team chopsticks bro you know I have mad respect for the devs. Oh and formally from me congrats lol bout time you and roger got the offer I knew was coming to ya haha.
[Off-topic] Starymari:
That guy was uncalled for. More power to you mtdew for not saying anything. It was absurd and unnecessary for that guy to attack you like that.
[Off-topic] car vs driver:
Thanks again bro, we appreciate it :)

You never drop into IRC anymore? Don't be a stranger. BTW, I have an IRCcloud invite if you want one :)
[Off-topic] mtdew:
First off sorry I have been busy and with little drive after what pa did to me and toyes lol. Second what's irccloud and I may get back in the game soon.
[Off-topic] car vs driver:
www.irccloud.com ... take a look
[Off-topic] lazer77:
I need to get on the irc wagon. Suggested apps aside from the above mentioned?
[Off-topic] bps119:
Did anyone get this apk before they took the link down? http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...e-upcoming-moto-xs-new-minimalist-camera-apk/

Sent from my Slimmed out Skyrocket
[Off-topic] AndroidGee209:
Sent you a pm with a link I found.
[Off-topic] MobiusShazarr:
I missed it.. crud

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
[Off-topic] lazer77:
Not missing anything. Most of the features didn't work and it was noted it wouldn't replace the standard camera app.

Just what I read. Didn't try it myself.
[Off-topic] skyrocketeer:
I have it, but it performs poorly on our skyrocket. Our shutter is slow. Also it doesn't have anything that benefits us
[Off-topic] bps119:
Yeah, I got a copy already. You are correct in your assessment.

Sent from my Slimmed out Skyrocket
[Off-topic] TheIronMaiden:
Evervolv is on the Hercules. I ported or attempted to port it to our device. Everything works but i notice a thick red outline whenever i unlock or whenever the CPU has to work. Annoying as hell but i can't get rid of it even changing kernels. Tried two different methods. Any ideas on how to fox it? Besides building from source? Lol
[Off-topic] MobiusShazarr:
Too bad about the nemesis camera, would have been nice to try a new camera

A.D.D. and flashing your phone might not be the best combination...
[Off-topic] lazer77:
They were talking about the camera from the Moto X.

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In regards to Focal though, I just found an apk. Nothing seemed to work but the general ui of it looks sweet. Looks very promising.
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
I really expect a lot from the Moto X, and I have an APK - it sort of works but yeah we have to wait until it's officially for us. Anyone interested can find the APK at http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/com...vailable_automatically_in_cyanogenmod/cbcziv7
[Off-topic] TheIronMaiden:
I wonder how the focal app is like. Just have to wait and see
[Off-topic] RK:
mtdew and xcrazydx, I used to think u guys were too hard on the noobs.. But then I dropped my skyrocket, broke the screen and got an s4. God I miss you guys. The forum there is a mess!! Ppl posting all sorts of builds in the official cm thread causing chaos.. Ugh!!! :rant
[Off-topic] ozziedog:
You are so correct the posts on S4 have no order they are no where near as squared away as the posted on the Skyrocket pages its like you said total chaos. Maybe its because the phone is new. I try to keep up with the S4 so when my Skyrocket finally gives it up I'll maybe know how to do stuff on it. Maybe the HTC One instead.
[Off-topic] RK:
Its like moving to a big city..
[Off-topic] mtdew:
What many fail to realize is moderators aren't enough. They handle too many devices to function well. People like me and xcrazy who get fed up with the crap have seen it all before and just want people to learn. I wish it was one mod per device and said mod must be a user of said device and visit regularly. This site is too vast to just walk away but we coddle and baby these newer gen users and they are drooling mouth breathers.
[Off-topic] jd1639:
I've got to agree with all of you. I follow the s4 too just in case I need a new device. It's a zoo. If you tell someone to search everyone gets pissed at you. Oh well, I'm still going to push some of the discipline we have here on them.
[Off-topic] T.J. Bender:
Yeah, I used to think mtdew was way too mean to the noobs. Then I had three people make statements somewhere between requesting and demanding that I give them a new phone because they jacked up something while cleaning wakelocks and decided it was my fault.

Ever since then, I've seen things from their perspective on guys who walk in and ask what the best ROM is and how to flash it.
[Off-topic] jd1639:
How the hell does someone break their phone fixing wake locks?
[Off-topic] mtdew:
That's why giving people answers is bad. I'm going to grab a Sony phone next, not too many people buy them and they do great things for the community. Plus its the only OEM firmware that doesn't make me want to vomit.
[Off-topic] lazer77:
I'm really interested in the Honami myself.. wish they'd hurry up with it. That or the G2.
[Off-topic] T.J. Bender:
I don't even remember anymore. I think one of them started playing with system files and broke their ROM, then hard-bricked when re-flashing or something. It just reinforced one of my key philosophies on life:

People are stupid.

Stupid people do stupid things.

When stupid people do stupid things, they're too stupid to understand why what they did was stupid.

Therefore, it's all your fault.

EDIT: Holy snap, I found the post on RootzWiki that details exactly how each of the three ruined their phone:

1. Wanted to get rid of suspend_backoff by trying a new ROM, because he didn't trust himself in a terminal emulator (which I've plastered with warnings about how you can brick yourself in one). Sound idea, but he didn't wipe the existing ROM first, bricked, and it was my fault because I didn't say anywhere that you had to wipe before installing a new ROM.

2. Wanted to fix the sdio family with a new modem, but flashed a modem for an S2 by mistake, then tried to fix it by flashing an S2 ROM onto his Rocket. Insta-brick, my fault for not telling him that S2 modems don't work on Skyrockets.

3. Decided that the best way to remove the "deleted_wake_locks" wakelock was to go into TWRP and format system. Phone wouldn't boot, surprise, so he decided to flash a new ROM and try to fix it. Wiped everything first, as he should have, but then got concerned that the flash was taking too long, and that wiping the system first was about to brick him, so he pulled the battery. Halfway through the flash. My fault for, well, for some reason, I'm sure.
[Off-topic] jd1639:
Thanks for the good laugh.

Edit. Really lmao now. Too precious. Love the s2 modern, and hey since you got the modem why not the rom.
[Off-topic] mtdew:
Moto x, great idea poor specs. I'm out.
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
Perfect specs for what they're going for. This is their answer to the iphone - a mid range phone with tightly focused, easy to use features. The color customization proves that, they're not going for tech geeks - they want the average person who likes how their phone looks and just wants a smartphone.

They really don't need a powerhouse phone. 10mp is a big sensor and apparently they're busting down the low light door. I like it, I'm gonna wait until I see it in store before considering.

edit: I should add that this won't kill Apple or Samsung, but it's a good first step. They're listening to the woes of battery life, and they know that at this point getting into a specification battle is pointless. There's no reason to go above the s4's processing power. A phone needs to work, it doesn't need to try and match up with a computer.

What on earth are you doing on your phones that need quad-core systems?
[Off-topic] car vs driver:
Clearly your porn collection is terrible if u have to ask this ... :what:
[Off-topic] prbassplayer:
I have to disagree if it's $200 at contract it's not a midrange device. It's a high range price tag with meh hardware and I'm disappointed it's not 4.3. Again Moto/Google drop the ball. Just my 2 cents. Maybe if it was cheaper on contract or something. The only thing I do like is the fact it's assembled in US. As for the camera no clue I'd need to read up more on it. But after seeing HTC one's low light performance find it hard to kick it from that spot.

Also N4 was at the time competitive specs and great priced, still think it's competitive as a midrange.

Last bit I'm obviously a little biased as I own a N4 but quad core is a big difference imo compared to the d2 I owned
[Off-topic] MobiusShazarr:
Lmao, too awesome
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
I think the main issue is the price - charging as much as the s4 and the one is the big mistake. It's a good phone, and honestly if it was actually priced like a midrange phone I'd grab it - but I guess US manufacturing is more expensive.

It's not for tech geeks or feature geeks, which is a shame because that's what I wanted it. I think it will at least do okay, and I honestly think it's a phone that will just WORK well. Which is iPhone's selling point, so who knows.
[Off-topic] prbassplayer:
Man I think just $50 less on the price tag on contract would have made a HUGE difference on the image for the phone. But we shall see
[Off-topic] mtdew:
Given the amount of time I spend on my phone compared to my computer yes I need it to compete a bit. No, not everyone needs a quad but I am the 1% from gaming to remote sessions yes power is key. I agree on your target market but for the price they are way off in my eyes and I bet it will cost them as specs don't mean anything to people but numbers do. They see more cores or more ram as a bigger number for the same price. It's kinda like getting a meal for the same price as the buffet quality comes to question for some but the average Joe sees value.
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
With that note I'd agree w/ PR, 50 bucks less could have made a huge difference
[Off-topic] TheIronMaiden:
[MENTION=5033792]mtdew[/MENTION] hey how are ya dude
[Off-topic] lazer77:
Not only the price, but of course, the locked bootloader. Get out.
[Off-topic] bps119:
Yeah, that locked bootloader...
[Off-topic] lazer77:
Seems its going to be a standard thing with all carrier phones.
[Off-topic] car vs driver:
Meh .. locked boot loaders are a small hurdle at best. They get cracked very quickly. I wouldn't take that into much consideration when getting a new device because it's only a matter of time before it's unlocked anyway :)
[Off-topic] mrfeuss:
Especially with guys like [MENTION=4229979]djrbliss[/MENTION] around. I bought the LG Optimus G Pro and we had a dev working on an unlock solution. Dan popped in to see if we thought Loki qualified for the bootloader unlock bounty that was set up. The next day he started getting dumps from people to prepare Loki and he had us all set within 2 hours.
[Off-topic] 1BadWolf:
Not all of them. I have owned a Motorola Atrix 2 for a year and a half and the boot loader is still locked. There is still a fair amount of development, but it's nothing compared to development for the skyrocket.(not the fault of the excessively hard working A2 devs, but you can't polish a turd) If I was ever going to consider buying another Motorola they would have to do a lot better than what I've read about the X. On the other hand, I'm very happy with my skyrocket and I'll be using it until it dies.

Brought to you by time and relative dimensions in space.
[Off-topic] MobiusShazarr:
Getting ready to get a lg optimus pro g as well. This community is awesome with how hard everyone tries to get stuff done.
[Off-topic] lazer77:
Ya, you're right. Its just annoying. But then there's always the possibility of things like what happened to the s4. Loki working, update patches the exploit, decide to take the ota without knowing.. Bam.

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Choose wisely if you like custom ROMs. Hear its a beast phone but the dev community is lacking, bad. [MENTION=5021517]mrfeuss[/MENTION] could correct me if I'm wrong..
[Off-topic] mrfeuss:
It's shaping up. We just got a mostly-working CM 10.1 build. I never expect we'll have the same kind of development we have for the Skyrocket, but there are rumors of more US carriers getting the OG Pro, so hopefully that'll bring in more devs.
[Off-topic] MobiusShazarr:
If any phone got this kind of support it would be amazing, even my old captivate is still getting new ROMS. I could only wish that the lg got this kind of love. You guys are what got me into flashing rooting and general tinkering. Vincom if your reading this thanks again for the idiot's guide to rooting. The Skyrocket forums are awesome.
[Off-topic] lazer77:
I had a feeling it being an at&t would put a damper on things.

They really are. Any time I visit a different phones threads, I'm just like ugh..
[Off-topic] henslo:
You should visit the at&t HTC one x threads. Some are instant headaches.

Sent.
[Off-topic] lazer77:
That's because its made by HTC.
[Off-topic] lazer77:
Just to confirm at&t sucks lol..

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tloaders-so-stop-asking-us-about-every-phone/
[Off-topic] ActionMax09:
If you want an LG get the Optimus G. A lot of bang for the buck and the community is growing. Or wait for the Note 3 or the new optimus but stay away from the Pro. You have been warned. ;)
[Off-topic] garydv2002:
Yes I agree he has made xda more tolerable again. Great job man keep up the good work even though at times its a royal pain in the a..s.. and if you ever have to get on my case about something I won't hold it against you. But I promise to try and be good boy....
[Off-topic] occupational_hazard:
I find it to be an ironic situation right now. I would post my thoughts but I want to see the hurt feelings and I dont not have enough tissue.
[Off-topic] mindmajick:
Lmao.. nice.
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
I just wanted to post my thoughts about a few things, and seeing as this is the off topic thread I feel free to do so.

First of all, the amount of disgusting little kids that started flaming prbassplayer made me incredibly disappointed in this community. He moderates these forums, and whatever he feels necessary to lock he should feel free to do so. He is the moderator, and the reactions that he got for doing so was akin to a kid throwing a temper tantrum in a candy aisle. I personally will remember the handles of those who started 'remove prbassplayer as moderator threads' and will ignore anything those people have to say.

The situation is [was] between Sean and PR, and we can't get in the middle of it.

HOWEVER, I think the whole situation brought about an interesting point, that I'd like to at least get some input on. This is a development forum, and the designated subsection for our phone should be strictly that. I was one of the ones who got annoyed about "dude, it's hot here." in the CM10 thread. Yes. It was hot. It'll also be hot tomorrow and the odds are looking like the rest of the week will be hot. However, I would like to think this is somewhat a community brought together by the same phone. I've been here since January, but only really actually payed attention for a few months and starting post. Doubtless some of you have formed opinions about me, just as I have about you. I REALLY don't like some people, but others I think I would go for a beer with.

Regardless of the intricacies, I was wondering if prbassplayer agrees we could be somewhat lax with the policing in the General Discussion section. [Note that prbassplayer MUST agree]. Sean's beard voting thread is an example of what should be allowed, he gives a lot to the community and asking for help should be fine. I don't think we should allow 30 different threads about eggs, bacon, weed, shows, 30 Rock and Bob Dylan but to be honest none of us would really care to post in those threads anyway. There are only two communities I can go to about Android related things. One is Reddit - Android (great community by the way) but it has 142,000 people and it's not phone specific. The other place is here, with phone specificity and less crowded. My only problem with here is the few times I've seen people get cracked out. Beyond the immaturity that a few people show, I disagree with some (all) of the reprimands prbassplayer has given me (of course), and a few of the reprimands he's given others. It's a little disheartening when such little things get blown out of proportion. I was hoping we could all collectively chill the f*ck out, and act more like a community. An online community at that, so remember people. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

Anyway, this only helped me procrastinate for 5 minutes from my paper. I should probably do that.

TLDR: SOME OF YOU SUCK, SOME OF YOU DON'T, MORE COMMUNITY, LESS TOTALITARIANISM, I HAVE A PAPER DUE IN 5.5 HOURS AND SHOULD PROBABLY SLEEP AT SOME POINT TOO
[Off-topic] tomtommy306:
I'll go ahead and say it. PrBass is a good mod. He has my respect from day one.

He gave us this thread to post nonsense and such, which is more than most mods would do, yet some of the members here would like even more.

THIS is a

PHONE MODDING

forum and definitely nothing more or less.

Why is everyone so shocked to see nonsense threads closed?

Rules are rules... I hope the seanzombies and other noobs start to follow them a little better now.

I've been here longer than most of the people here and have never been banned and only had a couple of infractions (for putting people in their place which isnt my place to do so).

I follow the rules the best I can and expect other members to do the same.

I'll close this out now with one more thing.... Who cares about touchwiz based ROMs so much when we have very good AOSP based ROMs everywhere.

Not me. :silly:

Sorry but I had to let this all out.

END OF RANT? for now:D
[Off-topic] Bronk93:
I need some help from my Skyrocket brethren. My son is bugging me for a cell phone so I was thinking of buying him an android Att go phone and popping in a straight talk sim card. I want to get him a halfway decent phone, anyone have any experience or ideas? Thanks!
[Off-topic] iandr0idos:
Skyrocket is good as obselete with this rate of advancement. At the very least, get him an HTC One X.
[Off-topic] prbassplayer:
Captivate are cheap decent phones. Infuse are almost the same but hspa+ and bigger screen. Both cheap off contract. Just my 2 cents
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
You use that word, I'm not sure if you know what that means.
[Off-topic] iandr0idos:
Yes I know what obsolete means. We have an outdated architecture. A8 isn't going to be supported for much longer. And our graphics card is the same one used on my HTC Aria.
[Off-topic] whosgotlag:
There has yet to be software that pushes the limits of what this phone can do. This phone will be able to survive Key Lime Pie or whatever the next one is named.

So yes, it will get smoked in hardware soon enough but the software isn't there yet.

(I can't speak on games because I don't play them, but even if I did that's what a laptop is for honestly).

So yes, technically speaking we may be on the verge of obsolete. But practically? Not even close.
[Off-topic] UZ7:
If you talk about software support that will all depend on the developers and support the devices has. Look at the Nexus S, its a google phone, it has a ton of developers working on it and it still runs JB, not saying its a fully lag free but it still works on it. If the devices is still capable of the software it will still have some life left. A good example of this is the iOS 5/6 try running that on the first 3 gens of iPhone without any lag.

When software starts "needing" to use 512mb of ram more often, then phones with more ram will be needed. 1GB seems to be the standard right now but newer phones such as the S3 (USA/Canada) version shows that the 2GB of ram is indeed beneficial to both performance and efficiency. The devices is not having to force clear the ram for additional use. As for CPUs dual core is starting to become the standard, we have seen quad cores starting to release internationally but they're not as efficient yet an example of this in the computer world is the Q6600 vs Q9550 quad cores or the i7 930 vs i7 2600K etc... but in the computer world some programs/games do utilize 4cores or more thus that will depend on software/development and if they have support for it. In the phone world it will be a while because not many apps even need more than one thread to run, as more games shift to using more core/gpu then the additional cores will be good but for now they eat a lot of power and isnt needed as much. Thus the most efficient/powerful CPU right now is the Krait because its only 2 cores, each core is powerful and doesnt eat a lot of power. So the Quad core version of the Krait will most likely be better than the Exynos quad. Not sure yet on the GPU side.

So while newer (in most cases) is better, the Skyrocket is still a powerful devices compared to last years phones. But this year the HTC One X and Samsung S3 are the top dogs as they sport the S4 (Krait). Fast/efficient dual core and the extra gig of ram helps the S3.
[Off-topic] prbassplayer:
I'n my opinion S3 (US)> OneX not only because of the extra gig of ram but the fact it has a external SD card (which is a big deal for me). My biggest gripe is I like to swap batteries and thats something that not all One X series can do? I don't remember if att can. Also keep in mine I'm very biased with samsung ;)