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[Motorola Droid RAZR] iolinux333:
This more or less sums up my feelings. I have pretty much had it with android, after sticking with it for 17 months now. In the meantime I bought a MacBook Air (which is freaking amazingly perfect) and played around with some friends iPhones and well yes it's more expensive, less open, less hackable, more limted, but the the darn things really do just freaking work. As soon as the iPhone5 comes out, I'm jumping ship. I'm just getting too old for this sh!t and I'll pay some extra to end the headaches and hearbreaks. I want to get on with other aspects of my life.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sRDennyCrane:
So... what doesn't work on your phone that will be repaired by ICS?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iolinux333:
Numero Uno: two critical pieces of software I need for my daily life, that I ran on my old windows 6.1 phone, STILL are not on Android (both companies have been saying "coming soon" for over 1 year) so I've been forced to access both through browser. iPhone has had them for YEARS.

But it's not that really, it's that I'm at the point where I just want to be told what I should have and accept it -- even if I have to pay out the nose for it. Age a few years and you'll see what I mean. I used to be such a hacker you have no freaking idea. But I have a lot more going on in my life now and just don't feel like spending the time any more beating on software to work the way it should.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Fekish:
Some of your points are true. Being an Android user for 4 years, there was a time i was spending hours for testing new roms. Now i just want to have the one provided by the manufacturer, although i know that i miss done goodies...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
I just received an update for Motorola Device Manager, I am not on stock so I can't test if you are now eligible for the ICS update via Motocast
[Motorola Droid RAZR] a2ha:
same here, you get a new android phone and you feel so happy until one month later everyone leaves your phone behind and goes to the next flagship device... anyways, i would switch to iphone 4s, but the screen is sooo god damn small :P
[Motorola Droid RAZR] vash_h:
I was so upset when they came or with RAZR Max

Sent from my ICS Razr XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sRDennyCrane:
And what, specifically are these 2 critical pieces of software that your daily life requires? (Looks over at Apple //e I bought new) How much longer do I need to age?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iSilens:
There you have it folks, they updated the page.

Luckily, my RAZR is now AsiaRetail with 4.0.4 installed, so I don't even care anymore.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Dartaa:
In Poland is should be in August :(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Fekish:
Probably they don't care about the lost of goodwill in forums, as the sales from people that don't know what an ICS or GB is, is far greater...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] vash_h:
They are already losing out in sales. Was at a pc fair in Malaysia, saw a Motorola booth selling Motorola phones.. Decided to drop by have a look.

The RAZR and Atrix and others, none of then have ics! Even though the update is already rolled out. Motorola didn't even bother to update their phones to ics.

Next, i heard a potential customer asking the sales rep, no ics?! The sales rep actually replied nope. =.=" i had to show the potential customer my RAZR running ics..

This is sad.. Really sad. And believer it or not, they do not sell any accessories, only charger and cart chargers. Not even screen protectors. Wtf man.. I do not understand Malaysia.. It's very very difficult to find accessories for RAZR..

Sent from my ICS Razr XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] milesg:
Yeah, but people who don't know what an ICS or GB is all buy iPhones ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wapophis:
Not received in spain

there is no act in spain yet .
[Motorola Droid RAZR] aaatoel:
Another minor update from Motorola Europe, replying to a user's comment:

Still waiting...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jadephyre:
If they go by the Archos Example, they will release an announced update a month later (maybe even more, due to all the bloat they have to bake in).
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jms_uk:
Didn't someone else say they'd bought a new RazrMaxx with the latest en.eu firmware on it? If so, then unless moto europe are releasing an even newer version than the one other territories already have, what the hell is going on?? :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jadephyre:
@jms_uk

According to their Facebook Page they are putting the "finishing touches" on the software which probably means that they are baking in their ****ty bloatware like MotoCast and the hideously slow PoS they call a gallery.

I used the leaked fastboot-files and used RSDLite to get ICS and applied the leaked update as well.

So far this piece of kit runs flawlessly, and I moved the most annoying APK's out of the systems app directory to a backup directory on the external SD Card to be rid of them until I need to roll them back for the official update.

These days i'm honestly questioning what was going through my head when I bought the Razr, I should have gotten a Samsung S2 or the GNex, not this piece of kit with a locked bootloader and a shoddy update history.

Good thing though that I do have a regular job again, means I can replace this thing fairly quickly if the bootloader-unlock goes south after the ICS Update.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bric10:
Still nothing in Denmark.

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] morsti:
Nothing in Norway either. Waiting for August to arrive even if it means the summer comes to an end.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] vash_h:
I wonder what is the extra goodies they have in store for Europeans compared to us Asians..

Sent from my ICS Razr XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maegrim:
In Spain there was still nothing.

The operator only has it announced an upgrade for August
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tigre72:
From Spain too, operator free terminal from origin and version comp # 6.5.1-167_SPU-15-M2-3 and 2.3.6 still waiting, hope not for long :eek:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bric10:
This is becoming bloody ridiculous.

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
Just received a 113mb update to motocast so perhaps we are getting close
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Szadzik:
Someone in the UK just posted in AF stating that they are receiving ICS right now. I already PMed them to ask about the build number.

For the curious ones, the thread mentioning this is located in the Galaxy ab 10.1 forum.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kay256:
Just got my Moto Razr today. Was super-excited till i learnt that it's still GB! :( No updates so far in the UK.

Contemplating returning the phone if no update in a week....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Tommyen:
Still nothing in Norway
[Motorola Droid RAZR] arisgoku:
my motocast was just updated to 2.0.23 is there an update on the way?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Szadzik:
Misunderstaing. No ICS yet. Sorry gents.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] raiderfox:
tried today and it said my system is up to date.

But now I'm on CM9, so I don't care any more
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Vatazhka:
An Italian website predicts ICS to begin being rolled out to Italian handsets on the 21st of August. We'll see...

http://android.hdblog.it/2012/08/01/ics-motorola-razr-e-razr-maxx-italia/
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xy90:
Well... I tried to talk to the online live "support" - but I don't really think they know themselves...

Stefania: Hi, my name is Stefania. How may I help you?

Konrad: Hey there! You should really answer people on your facebook site... its currently flooded with people raging...

Stefania: Hi Konrad,

Stefania: we will take care about this issue to the relevant department

Stefania: can I do anything else for you?

Konrad: But you guys haven't updated anything on the site, nor answered people for months.. You could really help by actually giving me and other people who bought your companys product some information!

Stefania: As confirmed we will advise your complain, as customer support for any issue you could contact us directly as you are doing in this moment, we are always available for any enquiry

Konrad: Well - when is the ICS razr update coming then? The phone is actually advertised as a ICS phone - and, inside the EU, false advertisement is against the law!

Stefania: ics is coming randomly

Stefania: most of our customer already received the update

Stefania: so for who remains won't take longer to update their phones

Konrad: No in the EU! No one in the EU got their ICS razr/maxx update... I've checked every forum, quora, and such - and no ones gotten it allready...

Stefania: Yes I can confirm you that ICS is on the way to be realesed, so we ask to our customers to be patient as they will receive it soon

Konrad: Well - You guys said it was on its way in march aswell... How many hours/days/months until it's on? And - what about Jelly Bean? Will it ever come to my razr maxx?

Stefania: We are sorry but we cannot confirm an official date

Konrad: This is horrible advertisment for the company, and the support is just not good enough!

Konrad: Besides, you just said that people allready had the ICS update - now you can't even get me the date?

Stefania: As confirmed most of customers already received it, but as realesed is random we cannot confirm an exact date for each customer

Konrad: Throughout the US, yes... But the EU... No! A couple of days, or weeks? You have to be able to give me something more specific, then "someday"...

Konrad: I live in the northern europe zone btw...

Stefania: We are sorry but we cannot provide further informations about ICS update

Konrad: Well, then you should really start to answer people demanding a response of facebook! People are actually starting to switch to other companies!

Stefania: We will take care of your contact and advise relevant department about it

Stefania: thanks for contacting us

Sorry for bad writing (touch screen when I was talking to good ol' "Stefania")- and tude... Haha... It was early in the morning, and I'm just getting a little pissed about the whole ICS thing!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] aaatoel:
I am just posting some unofficial info, that I found posted on a Greek forum. Somebody claims to have spoken on the phone with a representative from the greek company that represents Motorola in Greece, called Cellcom, and that they told him that the update will start rolling out in Tuesday, the 7th of August.

Here is the link, mind that it is written in Greek, and I repeat that the site can't confirm this info officialy.

http://techblog.gr/mobile/motorola-razr-xt910-greek-ics-update-94923/

I hope it is close to the truth!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] davizera:
Yesterday I got tired of waiting for Orange Israel to update my RAZR and as I've heard that there might not be an update for the israeli version of it, I installed fastboot version of the Retail EU from Eternity Project (I can't post a link here yet, just Google it)

I just can say that I regret not having done it before. It works like a charm and as people are saying, this is the official european version. I just don't have my phone in Hebrew, but I don't care as I already use my gadgets all in English. All other european languages are there.

The best part, no Bloatware from the carriers!!!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
I just want them to release the source so kholk can release the kexec
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Insirion:
Cant update

Hey i am from the netherlands and when i press check for updates i get a pop-up that says: At the moment it is unable to check if there are any updates

please try again later.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iSilens:
If you want Hebrew, install the AsiaRetail one like I did.

I don't use Hebrew, but it may come of use if I decide to sell my phone.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] haptagud:
See motorola have released an update to ICS, in Asia at least. Seems to be for battery issues.

Perhaps, this is what has been keeping our update. Fingers crossed this means we'll start seeing something soon...

Though I'll believe it when I see it :banghead:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ratedr75:
Decided to go for it and flash the 4.0.4 via RDS lite then did a hard reset.

Everything seems fine so far.................... much snappier etc.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kay256:
Gonna wait till Thursday latest. If I don't receive the update here in the Uk I'm returning this phone back to expansys.

Any suggestions as to which phone I should get? ( looking for similar specs / sub 300 quid range )
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Hakun:
Razr HD :D

Anyone know what is Moto doing with Razr? It tooks more than one month to solve the issue? August is summer vacation at Moto?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ratedr75:
Looks like I spoke too soon, the GPS isn't locking on properly (well basically not at all) and my email isn't refreshing and bringing new stuff down.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] aaatoel:
New post from Moto Europe regarding the Xoom update:

The ICS update for XOOM WiFi and 3G customers is now available. If you haven't already updated you can access the new software by selecting Settings > About Tablet > System Updates on your XOOM

And a few replies under that:

We are still working as fast as possible on the update for the RAZR AND RAZR MAXX and will update you as soon as it's available!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] geemacd:
Surely for all that's holy, with the length of time to get ics out compared to everyone of their main competitors and the length of this additional delay, it has to be jelly bean they are working on.

Anything less just shows them up to be completely inadequate as a supplier, organisation & company

Honestly, do they not feel the embarrassment ???? If the company I work for performed like this we would have went out of business ages ago

Sent from the UK on my xt910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
wipe data/cache before u do anything..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ectodroid:
Better jump ship while you can. My razr is collecting dust. EU customers are second class citizens to moto.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] vash_h:
U should try Asiaretail ics or pshasiatetail. I for one can confirm hebrew language is present in my pshasiaretail ics rom.

Sent from my ICS Moto Razr XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ryhamster:
doen with this phone. took my upgrade from t mobile got the s2 coming
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ratedr75:
Ah but I did indeed do this my friend and also a hard reset. Its going back tomorrow as the most important thing my emails, despite being on half hour checks has not brought an email down since 6pm last night.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bric10:
Well, I am still fond of mine. The hardwares fantastic and the OS smooth and stable. Honestly my wife's (very nice) SG2 running ICS really isn't that different...

Doesn't mean that I'm satisfied with Motorola though. :banghead:

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] morsti:
The Official EU Soak test is almost completed as far as I can tell, and the official Motorola OTA update for ICS 4.0.4 will once again start in Europe as of next week and so on. I received the update today, and its beautiful. The roll-out is for UK and the Nordic countries for now, depending of the version you got on your phone, but will continue for the rest of EU shortly. The update is stable, responsive and no battery drain or drop outs of connection. I had to remove root and do a complete factory reset after the update. The update just pooped up in the display while I was driving my car and I almost drove off the road. I got so exited. Enjoy.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] aaatoel:
I didn't understand which one did you receive... Were you included in the soak test and got the update this way, or the official ICS update was the one you got?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
Some people have received it without signing up for the soak test
[Motorola Droid RAZR] frastgr:
What version have you got, mate?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] therm0:
Just saw on a user post to Moto Europe's FB page they're starting full roll-out of the international version of the phone:

Source: GSM Arena
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
We want the source plx so kholk can complete kexec:good::good::cyclops:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bric10:
Thx

Nothing yet in Denmark.

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] haptagud:
The soak test finished yesterday, so I'd imagine you'd start getting it soon. I've had no real problems. Though i did have to do a factory reset due to some issue with google contacts having a syncing error, but everything has worked like a charm since.

A much better experience than GB :) even with a few little annoying things. I'd say its been worth the wait!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] netblaster:
Can you post the ROM version?!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] haptagud:
It's the same one that's posted in the discussion on the European ICS soak test. But I'm now on 672.180.41 the non EFIGS EU retail version Android 4.04.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] frastgr:
did you extract the update zip file from phone's cache file? We will be very thankfull if you have it and post it here.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bric10:
OT, or not.....;)

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/13/t...e-part-of-sweeping-change.html?pagewanted=all
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
They should fire everyone and close down motorola because we still have not seen the unlocked bootloader
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Death Walker:
they are getting rid of a lot of staff according to news. 20% to be exact and most are from europe!!!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-13/google-said-to-cut-about-4-000-employees-in-its-motorola-unit.html
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Vatazhka:
Is this news relevant? I doubt it impacts RAZR in any way.

Sent from my XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bric10:
Well, during the run of this thread the view, that Motorola ingenours are brilliant but staff and executives are useless, have repeatedly been aired by users. Others have challenged this position.

I think it's of interest that Google Inc seems to share the opinion of the first group.

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
I hope they managed to kick the guy who is having our bootlooaders locked :cyclops:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ectodroid:
No wonder they are closing down in europe. They closed the gsm bootloader and updates are horribly late, too please verizon, a US company...

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
If they manage to unlock the bootlooaders on the current phones (razr,defy,photon) and all gsm motorola devies I can reassure you that the sale will increase. also to get the ****ing updates in time. they said razr will have the ics update by late january and now its august and still nothing, wtf?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] achillesgk:
That's why my next phone will be galaxy nexus.....Goodbye motorola.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sebbesapa:
Same here. Never going to buy or recommend anything but a nexus device , even if It's more expensive and with worse proformance!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] therm0:
What if the next Nexus device is a Motorola? Now that Google owns them, and they're simplifying to a small number of handsets, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the next one is a Moto...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
It can be, just as Motorola Xoom is a GED device the bootloaders will never be locked.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] geemacd:
Yeah because people that maybe losing their jobs are going to be really motivated to so some work ... Like releasing ics to us

Sent from the UK on my xt910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bric10:
August 15. Still nothing in Denmark.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Vatazhka:
Do you actually think that they are going to sack incompetent guys only? Whole teams are being sacked, and knowing that they are going to be axed regardless of their performance certainly doesn't motivate them! Please also note that Android handsets is their prospective business, so I'd expect most cuts to affect other areas.

No sign of OTA in Polish fora.

Sent from my XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] geemacd:
No like most big business, it will be the little guys who actually do work hard, don't take sick days and do care about the company that will get let go, while their bosses that make the stupid decisions and work the system to get maximum out of nothing swell go on like nothing happened.

Android maybe their core, but programming of this can be done anywhere.

I'm now expecting more delays on this as people to tweak soak test or pressing button to release maybe in meetings with company, unions etc over their future

Sent from the UK on my xt910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pescorilo:
Nothing in Romania also.

And I also think that hard workers well be kicked out without any evaluation. This is a mass layout.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Vatazhka:
Still in QA

The 672.180.41 is still in QA. A Polish user managed to pull NonEFIGS OTA from a QA server.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mbartosik:
@up

Details on polish forum :)

http://forum.android.com.pl/f472/wy...d-date-mon-jul-16-11-15-45-cst-2012-a-203392/

maybe somebody translate this and put on xda :) . I'm late to work :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Vatazhka:
Done and thank you! :good:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] aaatoel:
New post from Moto in their fb page:

We’ve had a lot of questions about when the Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade for the Motorola RAZR and RAZR MAXX is coming out across Europe. The ICS upgrade for RAZR and RAZR MAXX owners from France (retail), Germany (O2), Italy (TIM & retail),

Spain (Yoigo & retail) and Turkey as well as The Baltics, is now rolling out to select users, and will be available more broadly over the coming week.

Please follow the link for more details about the new software: http://youtu.be/Kbzeit4cJo4

Too bad I don't live in one of those countries. Anyone who can confirm it?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bric10:
And that's what, the fourth or the fifth time they're making that announcement in the last three months? Seems they are shifting the country's that will receive ICS soon every time and as far as I can tell no European countries has actually received the update ..

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] aaatoel:
A few friends in Greece received it yesterday! According to their latest post, many will get it the coming week!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] martyl77:
I recieved OTA ICS yesterday in Czech Republice. My Razr is from Vodafone CZ.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jadephyre:
I call BS unless I see proof... personally I don't believe anything they say anymore.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Heartl3ss:
I received the update late at night. Im from Greece and my Razr is French!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] debaser13:
noone in sweden yet
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tudork:
It would be useful if people who did NOT get it refrained from posting that they didn't and instead let people who did get it post about it, so when the rest of us check the forum and see there is a new post we can expect to read something of interest and not that thousands of people did not get the update. I'm just saying...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bric10:
Such an interesting post. Thanks.

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] tigre72:
Spain. Company free cell. I got the message ten minutes ago, still didn´t updated. 375,80 MB I don't have WiFi nearby.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] arisgoku:
what is your current system version?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Azrael70:
Spain, unbranded phone sucesfully update to 672.180.41.XT910.Retail.en.EU fron Jul 16 2012.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] F-Forward:
So I don't get it. Doesn't GPS work on the version they push now?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BakaPhoenix:
Gps works fine on mine, try use gps status, and recalibrate the gps
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tudork:
I got it in romania, network free razr maxx purchased from expansys. I am backing up data and apps now, then will download and factory reset. Good luck to me.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ZolaSlo:
Slovenia, retail.EN.EU, downloading ICS at the moment...

ZolaSlo
[Motorola Droid RAZR] adaimespechip:
you know the drill, pull it and post it.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
if u already downloaded it u cant pull it. click on download later and go to system/cache to pull it and upload it plox. also waiting for sbf from motorola so we can flash it via rsd lite
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ZolaSlo:
Is there a special procedure or just go to certain directory and copy?

ZolaSlo

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So too late now?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] adaimespechip:
You already installed it?