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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
Can I also add my 'great review' comment. The attention to detail means I'd have commissioned the OP to write stuff for me when I was Editor of What Mobile.

I know it can take a lot of time to write short and concise paragraphs, and accompany them with images so well done again!

I've installed the Swiss ROM on a second Xperia S I have (so now I can actually do side by side comparisons) and I am finding that there are some lagging issues - and it's already frozen once. I did clear the device, but have read the suggestion of doing a second reset which I might do later. (The other problem as I've mentioned elsewhere is that the Swiss ROM limits the Wi-Fi channels to 1-10, which is a right pain for me as my router is on 12 purely to avoid local congestion).

That's not inspiring me much for doing the update to my actual day phone, the other Xperia S, as I really don't want to lose all the apps and have to reinstall them - and then hope Google does successfully restore the settings.

For what it's worth, when I set up the updated Xperia S with ICS and logged in with my Google account settings - it did begin to download all of the apps I'd previously had on the phone. However, it never actually completed the process and the next time I went in (having to agree to the new Play T&Cs) it had reverted to simply updating the core apps.

I've had this happen to the 2011 Xperia models I updated via flashtools. So far neither the active, arc or Live Walkman have re-installed any apps from Play (even though, for a while it shows them all as downloading). Has anyone else had this problem, or found a solution/way to force it to do it again.

It's one thing I wish Google would fix (something for Google I/O?) as I'd like to have an option to install the same app on more than one device. Okay, so I'm rather spoilt (my list of devices reaches nearly 100!) but if I install something on my Xperia S, I'd like to have it send to a group of devices, as I swap from one device to another (such as a tablet) fairly frequently.

It would be equally good to be able to organise purchased apps (and free downloaded ones) into groups to do bulk installs.

I realise this last bit is off topic, but thought I'd add it in - would be a great thing for the next version of Android that we can create hundreds of threads on!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] keithwalton:
The lockscreen changes are the only disappointment for me so far. Really not sure what they were thinking.

I really liked the slide to unlock screen as it displays a lot of useful info quickly without having to fully unlock the phone. That and it doesn't have the emergency call button on it so pocket dialing was much harder.

Seems you can only have this lockscreen if you don't have any other security :( (pin, pattern or face)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sax28:
Who can reply to me?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] R64:
yes you can
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
I don't think so.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shmoejoe:
Yea, its possible, I did it just to see how big it can get, and wow is it ugly :cyclops:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sax28:
don't exists in settings the menu display -> Fonts size ?????
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shmoejoe:
yes, its there, you have like 4 choices "small, normal, large, x-large"
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sax28:
GOOD! this was my biggest disappointment in GingerBread
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
Sorry I thought it's only for browser and apps.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] donjamal:
that screenshot cleary shows my only disappointment in this ROM. it's like they forgot to skin a huge part of the operating system and took care only of the core which makes it really inconsistent in my opinion.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
i can't really confirm the performance you're on about in your review.

for me, gingerbread was FAR more faster and smoother.. the album lags, the music player needs like 5 seconds to get opened up although i only have 400 songs on it at the moment. switching between homescreens lags aswell. not to talk about the time the contacts and phone app need to get up.. like 8 seconds sometimes..

thats just so BAD !
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] bigbonly2u:
Nice review :cowboy:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] in_deed:
Awesome review. Thanks :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kaosdroid:
Could you give us a real test on GAME !!

Because this plastic phone is PlayStation certif but for now wth GB it's impossible to connect my vita with this phone,just for send picture for exemple.

So please,could you make a game test on needForSpeedHD,DeadSpaceHD,and some few fps and even the good tetris!

This games run perfect on mine GB .75!

(all compatible games run perfect! :DD)

I ask that,because,it's the black point of this culin ICS light :-D

Cia
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] @niket:
wht abt burst mode availability in camera app???
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
Not available...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
The 5 we have now already lag like it's 2010. Imagine having seven.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] @niket:
Thanks :)

one more Que to ask,

does updating with Sony PCC will result in all previous data loss???

like contacts, apps, msgs, album etc???

bcz with previous updates, nothing happened to all the personal data listed above
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] doministry:
AFAIK no, everything will be preserved.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Maximus999:
Awesome review Ambroos!

I'm seriously considering selling my Sensation and getting the Xperia S now that ICS is out.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] aineko:
Since nobody replied, I'm guessing it still isn't possible?

Overall it seems like a great upgrade, other than the "two-steps-forward-one-step-back" lockscreen. Doesn't solve all the issues people were asking for, but I can't wait to get the update :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ar47vn:
For your consideration, it is possible... not.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] warface:
I moved from a sensation to the Xperia s.

It pisses all over the HTC, and I loved my sensation!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] theXperiance:
Great post!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] TheRafal:
This maj was realy good but ... she eat 350/400 Mo RAM :eek: is the double of 2.3.7 :confused:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kaosdroid:
Nobody have test games on this great phone with the fantastic ICS?

I just want to know if it's run correct
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
All games I've tried work fine.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] thejosetree:
Great improvement on battery. 5 hours of display at least!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] doministry:
That was my question too - is it true the device with ICS has only 200MB+ free RAM? That would be bad for some heavy multitasking.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
RAM is fine. It's just some background services that use a lot of RAM but they can be cleared when the RAM is needed.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] doministry:
Cool than.....
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] RanMN:
Great review!waiting for the update to come here but looks like ill miss the slide to silence feature! :(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] LilChinchster:
Any new better widgets on ics?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] TheRafal:
I did some screeshots ;) I freeze some apps with Titanium Backup but it's still highter than 2.3.7...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Gloris:
hmmm, all these issues...i'm starting to wonder if i might be better not updating the software on my phone at all? :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Lord Takyon:
Here we go again with the ram debate.

A lot of ram is available when needed, a chunk of that 'used' ram is actually not doing anything other than keeping some things cached for a faster start up. If needed it will be made available.

Sent from my XperiaS via transwarp conduit.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] andoridkiller:
I have no problems with mine and battery standby seems to be better but not a lot.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kaosdroid:
Oki,thanks man ;-)

But does this big

gta/deadspace/NFS/maxpayne/FIFA/TheDead

Run smoothly ?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
I am having problems with Asphalt 6. The game force closes, some textures from sky and half the ones from nitro. Version 3.7 (or 2.7).
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lordoftheriffs:
Can a developer confirm if burst shot and video capture can be enabled through custom roms or any other way? Also can the lockscreen swipe be changed so as the camera slide becomes silent mode instead?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] FenrirMX:
Oo

Really?

Awesome
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mmarekk11:
What about photos? Isn´t their size bigger? They say that there is unnecesary big comprimation. Didn´t it change?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] m1st3r1:
Burst shot: camera zoomfx, camera360. I don't know the quality in the other phone with native burst shot, but using these two apps, they only take a 1080p (2.1 MP, camera360 ) and 960x720 (camera zoomfx ) . Maybe this is why Sony decided not to include it.

I don't know bout video cam capture though.

They're about the same. Even smaller because I used the modded cam in GB. But when I use the modded and use the auto ISO the ISO seem fixed no matter how the light is. Now (with no settings to change the ISO, the ISO change toward the sorrounding light)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jonmorris:
It really isn't a feature you need, but it's something that both HTC and Samsung could use to add to its list of features to try and sell more phones. It sounds far more clever and useful than it really is.

I have it on my old Sony Bloggie.. not sure who came up with the idea first, but Sony has certainly done it already. The thing is, you're recording a 720 or 1080 video and the still image can only be what is being captured, hence the low resolution. And will you get the best frame (which may even have motion blur)?

It's possibly better to just record your video and then take screen grabs from that in any half-decent editor.

Until someone said in the original ICS thread that the new update had it, I don't think many people considered it. Sadly there will now be people disappointed or even angry with Sony, but I never expected it. Even if the native/vanilla camera app for ICS has it, Sony doesn't use it - and believe me, you don't want the bog standard camera app!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
Here the memory available on stock ICS not rooted.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 18lama:
Burst mode is possible through 3rd party camera apps.

Sent from my LT26i
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] richteralan:
Way too much bloat.

I'm afraid SONY needs to further fine tune the ICS.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] doministry:
I see many apps I would turn off there...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] FenrirMX:
Is it just me or did they break the smart tags?

They work sometimes and others they don't even register.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tel033:
Can anyone tell me why billabong surf trip freeze sometimes? Its supposed to be compatible I don't get it this phone is supposed to be able to run it smoothly I'm wondering if this has been corrected in ics..

Plus WILL MY DATA BE ERASED IF I UPDATE VIA SUS?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] HenrikSolna:
What issues?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] harvy20:
great review thanks!

now to decide if move over to generic switerzland or wait for tmobile uk to approve, and going by the fact they have not even released ICS on Xperia Arc my last phone, what hope do I have of seing ICS on my Xperia S this month or even next! :p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
Very little. Make the switch, you won't regret it!

I was one of the cynics, always saying that ICS doesn't matter that much and it isn't worth all the whine, but now that I've actually tried it I disagree with my former opinion :P ICS is well worth it. Or well, not really ICS, just the updated Sony apps!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] shahkam:
Great review but the text color makes it difficult to read using the xda app..

Swyped From My Sensation.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] SnowOokami:
yeah! sony totally ****ed up the memory management... it uses way more ram than GB did (and I'm pretty sure that's not the case for other phones... tried some other ICS ones).

I froze some apps and removed Google+ and got about 180mb free when NOT listening to music...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
stop whining about ram there's more free than the apps show you
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
I don't understand why peoples here do like to cry about anything.

Someone people if they see gold they say: why the gold color is yellow not blue?

It's life and we have to accept them :confused:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
Free RAM really is fine.

By the way, free RAM is wasted RAM. Android does some really smart optimizations to keep everything running smoothly. Clearing your RAM means applications have to be restarted from the internal memory all the time, which is really slow and drains the CPU too. Just let Android manage itself, the Sony engineers and Google engineers understand the Android memory management better than you do.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] harvy20:
aghh what the heck, if ICS came out on a generuc switerzland first than im pretty sure any future updates will come out first on that, gonnae do it in a few mins I cant hang about for tmobile they are always last in approving updates to add the **** bloatware, i would not even call it that, its usually just an icon that takes you to their app store...great........report my finidings in an hour or so.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jack_panosyan:
sorry i have a question. Is there Wifi direct in ICS? And does this phone support this feature?if the answer is yes so how can i enable it? please answer this it is so important.thx
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Lord Takyon:
Apart from the fact it simply runs better, I love the fact I can disable lots of services. I don't have root and hated that I was stuck with all this junk on GB .

RAM usage appears higher, however I also understand how it works.

Sent from my XperiaS via transwarp conduit.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
I have no idea. No other devices I have support WiFi Direct. It should support it though, as it is a part of Android 4.0.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Billy44:
My few cents on the ICS on Xperia S if you wanna read.

ICS has improved a lot of things. Even the colour banding in the xda app splash screen is gone. Everything looks and feels smoother. The redesigned music app (now walkman), photo app (now album) and new films app are beautiful.

Amount of bloatware seems to be about the same as before. No feature to disable unused apps like in ICS for Xperia Arc. Minor UI tweaks in some apps ( e.g.YouTube, phone, gmail etc) which you'll love or hate. Love how you can remove each notification individually in the new notification centre. Hate that you still can't make folders in the app drawer. Don't care bout the improved stock browser with all those cool tab views and stuff. I still use dolphin browser and think it's much better. Now you can choose from several different keyboard layouts and I'm really having fun with the built in voice recognition in the keyboard with the blocking offensive words option disabled.

My only real complaint is about the freaking lock screen. It's worse than before now. Now, the slide to unlock is a "security" feature along with pattern, pin, face unlock. Seriously? Even the most simple minded thug would be able to slide and unlock and get inside my phone. So why is slide to unlock under "Screen Security" features now? I don't understand.

For a while I thought my phone was having problems cuz as soon as I pressed the power button, it took me directly to my home screen. I tried several times hoping the screen would lock and I would slide it. But nope, didn't work. Then I realized if you go to security settings and set the screen security to "NONE" the slide to unlock will no longer work.

That is probably why it is impossible to use the slide to unlock feature and set a pattern at the same time.

Being able to do both like in Gingerbread is important to be able to directly access the camera just for the hell of it cuz it's there ( honestly though I preferred slide to silent in GB instead of slide to camera in ICS. Sony should've left this alone).

Also, the slide down notification on the lock screen only works for slide to unlock

"security" feature. Pathetic really. Everyone sets a pattern or a pin. So I don't see a point of this new but flawed feature in ICS for Xperia S. Frustrating but atleaat we have ICS finally.

Thank you all.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
The point of pattern or pin security is exactly that you can't access any device information from the lockscreen. Not even notifications. It works exactly as it should right now and was flawed in Gingerbread (and on the 2011 devices).
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] tel033:
No cause in gb I had both pattern and slide and no one could get into my new message from lockscreen without the pattern code
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gm007:
Don't update to ics please....
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Felimenta97:
It is just with me that WiFi signal its worse than bad?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ambroos:
Well then what's the problem really? There still isn't anyone who can get into your messages from the lockscreen?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Billy44:
Hmm, you've got a pretty good point there. But they could have made it like in GB lock screen notification where you have the option to just say "New Message" instead of displaying the contents of the message. Just saying.

Also, I think some people will miss this feature in ICS because in GB atleast you could slide on the notifications in the lock screen and do the pattern to get to actually get to your message so it's still secure. But since in ICS you can't use slide to unlock + pattern, you can no longer get notifications if you set a pattern. You can still get notifications if you set it to slide to unlock but it's not secure.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] donjamal:
U can hide the notification details in ICS as well, look.

Tapatalk 2-vel küldve az én LT26i-ről
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] TheEndHK:
You can't really do that on XS because it is a software based camera while ONE/GS3 got a camera hardware chip and don't forget their CPUs are next generation could simply blow XS away. Even do it in pure software manner, they might still possible by being handle it in this way.

Galaxy Nexus is also software based but managed to has a better CPU/OS and lower the resolution to 5M pixel count.

By upgrading to ICS, my XS camera speed is noticeablely faster. Still not come close to my HTC One S(S4) but it is more acceptable now(I admit it's somewhat slow when I was on GB) and pretty enough for general use. Could not ask it more for a software camera.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] FlightTribe:
Can I ask how the phone dialer is on ICS ?

I am SUPER wary of upgrading.

I updated my lovely Arc S to ICS and it got ruined (yes even after a complete wipe)

It took like 5 seconds to populate the phone dialer screen after you pressed the button. And that is completely unforgivable :(
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] TheEndHK:
I don't have this issue on my XS ICS and I almost don't have all other problems mentioned in this thread, the only and the single one disappointment is now it drains my battery out in a much faster way.

In my opinion, the Arc S ICS and XS ICS is simply two different OS because the former one is equipped with old kernel 2.6(GB) and the latter one is 3.0 based.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] m1st3r1:
well,, if u're talking bout the quad core (gs3 and onex), they have the same cortex-a9 technology. they just have more core. not the new technology. their cpu could blow XS only in benchmark. and ofc when talking bout benchmark.. my i5 could easily shame them (meaning: who the hell use their phone only for benchmark? :laugh: )

the one s (and the LTE version of GS3 and one x) is indeed has next gen cpu than SXS (S4 v S3, krait v Scorpion), but in my country (and some australian and other asian regions) they sold the one s with the S3 (but with higher clock, 1.7 gHz) and told people that they're almost the same performance wise (i know that the technology-wise they're different, but if they said it so... :D )

and no. the gs3 doesnt have camera hardware chip. it's pure software. if anything make the burst shot has better quality, it's the shutter speed of the camera itself.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Billy44:
What's the point of hiding it if someone can just slide it and get to your message. Wouldn't it be better if that person slides the notification and gets to the pattern lock for the sake of privacy? Cuz then like I said, no point of trying to hide the contents.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ntduyphuong:
Anyone having the problem with Facebook Timeline in Facebook app? Timeline has disappeared in mine.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] LitoNi:
guys you can purchase widget locker and get ics locker style + the pattern that sony has. and on top of that you get more options like the silent ringing and stuff up to you. tried it on GB XPS and also my friends ARC S on ICS.

hide the notification bar and then get missedit to apply the unread texts and calls and whatsapp etc..

no need to root or anything.

ive used widget locker and missedit and i had no issues not even issues like from GB where some things arent showing up. missedit works like a charm.

pic below.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] adz14:
In the apps menu, do I still have to scroll through panels all the way to the end to get to the app I want? Did ICS introduce the fast-scrolling method or whatever its called?

Thanks.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Lord Takyon:
Ditto, it looks like an old version lol

Tried everything, but it looks rubbish.

Sent from my XperiaS via transwarp conduit.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Lord Takyon:
Surprised people aren't mentioning the fact you can disable some services easily.

Sent from my XperiaS via transwarp conduit.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] subben2003:
Same problem here. hope it's a bug and it would be fixed soon
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] harvy20:
Just upgraded mine to generic Finland as per thenoob guide on forum and impressed so far.....

In regards to easily making phone silent mode as we did in the past with slider unlock ( which has now become camera) simply hold the power button long and now new additional buttons.... well three buttons!!!!! Ones silent ones vibrate and ones ringtones on!!! Much better! :

edit: and fourth...........airplane mode....!!!!!!!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ThilinaC:
Good review mate
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] adiktz:
I think nobody noticed that now we don't need custom kernel for two way call recording...!!! Now we can use call recorder app without changing kernel...!!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] doministry:
No not really. On Arc which had just too little RAM, once I used stock browser heavily the homescreen had to be frozen, and after closing the browser I had to wait some time for the homescreen to be rewritten like I would restart the phone.

Too little RAM is too little RAM, there is no cure for that. That's why people ask.

I want smooth device not the one which will have problems with let's say Facebook and Browser running together, both are over 100MB when used....
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] theRocknRolla:
Me too. Only thing bugging me from this awesome upgrade.

Loving ICS on the Xperia S otherwise. Feels like a new phone.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] doministry:
Are you talking about original FB app or Sony one...?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] HenrikSolna:
I have no problems with any Facebook app

Skickat från min LT26i via Tapatalk 2
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Lord Takyon:
For me it's the official app. I've removed update, wiped data etc and then applied update again. Still looks 'wrong' though.

Sent from my XperiaS via transwarp conduit.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
idd it looks wrong ^^ i cant even see albums on my friend's profile..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] subben2003:
For me the original one

which one are you using

did the same twice