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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rakeesh_j:
If you get a fast SD card (e.g. class 10 or higher) you shouldn't have any problems with speed.

However MTP leaves many issues of its own. For example, moving a file from one directory to another requires downloading the entire file, and then uploading it back. That is the most retarded filesystem design I have ever seen.

Then you have the problem of several files being "hidden" from MTP (could be due to copyright concerns, e.g. the kindle directory is hidden, but it's gay nonetheless and shouldn't be that way, especially considering how weak of a protection that is.) It shouldn't be such that you have to use a third party app to re-scan the partition to make these files show up.

There are other problems too, such as not being compatible with car MP3 players, among many other devices that rely upon mass storage.

MTP just sucks, there should be a way to use UMS instead.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dr.m0x:
MTP definitely needs work.

Sent from my GNex rocking Aokp
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kookooktchoo:
"There's no particular hardware reason a device can't have both. The problem is that there is no good UI for it.

One of the core Android principles is that you never need a file manager. Ever. We wanted to avoid the obnoxious "sneeze and a file picker appears" syndrome of basically every other OS. Local data that apps know how to handle should just be magically available within the apps, or stored in the cloud. You shouldn't have to go spelunking on your SD card to find data.

The problem with having both internal storage and SD cards is that suddenly that goal gets a whole lot harder to achieve. For a given shot, should the camera save to internal-16GB, or to SD card? Should an app from Market be installed to internal or SD? etc.

Yes, we can solve this by letting the user choose, or have it be in settings. But then, that's a file picker, or close enough to the file picker experience that we dislike it just as much."

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...behind-galaxy-nexus-lack-of-usb-mass-storage/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nrlatsha:
Agreed.

If I need more space, USB OTG covers me
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
How? Do you duct tape a flash drive to your battery door?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimmyhook:
I drag and drop files all the time in win 7 and 8 from my PC to any folder on my phone. How is this complicated?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BlackHoleSlam:
You are wrong you should read up since a guy on here setup an app for our phones and a simple computer program for usb mass storage

by me, for me and I love you
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Um...talking about this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1626713&highlight=usb

Because that is not a usb mass storage connection.

It requires a PC client and is a clever trick using ftp and adb. My guess is it connects using adb tcpip with adb connect and then uses a basic ftp server on the device itself. Standard ftp client can be used at this point to connect as well.

Try for yourself. Right click the icon, choose mount device. Note a couple things.

The address points to

Which resolves to

ftp://127.0.0.1:22210/

Which means...I should be able to use a browser:

A couple other items of notice:

There is no assigned drive letter.

The drive does not show up under diskmgmt.msc, indicating it is not a true drive of any sort.

So no, this is not UMS. It is however a clever workaround for MTP and I applaud the developer for thinking outside of the box and being creative. It is a genius idea, but mass storage, it is not. Which I might add, the developer clarified here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25798751&postcount=58

So before you dismiss someone else for dismissing someone else, do your homework or a jerk like me brings it up :) Not poking at anyone, but there will be no usb mass storage with a simple app. The phone will not run if you mount the data partition to a PC, and if the phone can't run, the partition can't be mounted. One of those vicious circle things. Until there is another partition created which can safely be dismounted from the phone (which means kernel and initramfs hacking), I don't think we will be seeing USB Mass Storage mode.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ItsTobias:
You guys might be interested in this:

Servio: A Quarter-Sized Memory Upgrade & File Sharing Device

Nifty little wifi based flie server, roughly the size of a coin, with a keychain.

I am not in any way associated with this project, just thought you may be interested.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
@ adrynalyne, thanks for taking the time to explain it. I'm sure a lot of us have had it with the snarky responses when trying to tell people that it can't be done.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
No SD Card = faster read/write, better I/O, easier to partition, and its easier for devs to understand.

Also, OP, Google designed this phone, not Samsung.

Edit: Reading through the thread I have a couple of notes to add:

1. MTP is fine. It transfers flawlessly for me.

2. There are "USB Mass Storage" Mods out there for our phone, however I've never used one and cannot confirm the validity of them.

3. Who wants to deal with 3,000 partitions and slow transfer speeds?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Really? How so?

Another point: what would be the problem of having the GNex as is, but with an additional removable storage slot? Not for installing apps or anything like that, but for the purposes of easily transferring media files (e.g., music/video/photos) to the device? As an example, loading up a couple of SDcards full of movies for viewing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MrSimpson:
After having an SD card buried up under the battery of my Thunderbolt, I wasn't at all concerned about the Nexus not having one. I never took the card out of my TB because it was a PITA. Plugging into the PC to transfer files is much easier.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] geoffcorey:
There's also the 4GB file size limit of fat32, which having mtp alleviates.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
Can't that be circumvented by erasing the Fat32 partition and creating an NTFS partition?

I don't know how well/if android supports NTFS, though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cartisdm:
There's been a lot of really good responses within this thread. Thanks everyone for taking the time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] moejay:
I think the no card policy comes from apple and google to force users to use the cloud....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
ICS, or at least the GS3, supports exFat, which would alleviate that. 16 exabyte file size limit.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andQlimax:
that happen if the folder have a file called .nomedia inside (this file is used for example to hide app/game data, so game's photos, ecc don't appear in ur phone gallery, ecc)...basically the media scanner does skip that folder

the disadvantage is that, using MTP, that folder will appear empty from ur pc
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Unless that is an OS X or nix thing, I can see folders with .nomedia files in them just fine from my PC.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
I haven't yet reached the 16 GB space limit, so I'm good.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andQlimax:
Well I'm on windows and I can't

For example can u see the content of the folder Android/data/? It looks empty from my pc

With mtp I meam, not other software like adb, ftp, etc

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus con Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Dunno. Mtp has its finnicky moments, but then so does UMS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andQlimax:
Strange.. I never been able to see it that I remember

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus con Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I've had times I couldn't either. I just chalked it up to my cable at the time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] geoffcorey:
Ntfs is Microsoft proprietary and is just asking for Microsoft to sue google, plus there is the part where osx can't write to ntfs, only read.

That's all well and good, but exfat is still an Ms product and fairly new still. Not sure how much support is out for it with linux/osx.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
MS isn't going to sue anyone. NTFS read/write OSS drivers are out there. I don't think they are in Android, but they could be added if Google so wished. OS X can use them too to read and write.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS-3G

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ntfs-3g/

As for exFat, many OSes not older than dirt support it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT

Linux support is lagging like mtp, which is to be expected. Give it some time and it will support it (better) too, just like they did with ntfs. If Linux is your choice OS, just format the card as ext4.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jesusice:
Reading this thread I have to keep reminding myself that some Gnex owners only have 16GB. Having 32GB I'm quite happy with no SD. I'm also very happy not to have an artificial barrier between my app space and my storage space.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Well, I don't use up my 16GB either, let alone 32. But that wasn't the point that I was trying to make. However, if I did have a microSD card slot, I would load up a bunch of cards with various thing like: one full of music, one full of Blue Mountain State episodes, one full of Entourage episodes, etc. And keep them in my pocket for whenever the need may arise. However, I certainly do not want to load up my phone with them.

Edit: it is the "removable" part that interests me, not so much the "expandable".
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jesusice:
I get that. Being removable does make transferring files a lot easier. I may be prejudiced as I've had bad experiences with SD cards going out on me with previous phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LoveNFC:
Despite Google's excuse of their hatred for file explorers, there is another reason behind the exclusion of a MicroSD card slot - NFC.

By removing MicroSD support, Google removes the opportunity for you to employ a third-party secure element that's not controlled by Google. This therefore means that every NFC application that wants beyond-basic functionality must use the built-in secure element, which is of course controlled by Google. This then means that Google can charge a fee for access to space on the built-in NFC secure element.

That's part of the reason why there aren't any applications that allow you to unlock your office doors with your phone or install payment applications that compete with Google Wallet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
Galaxy S3 has NFC and microSD slot and Google Wallet Support.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/sprint-galaxy-s-iii-arrives-with-google-wallet-on-june-21/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LoveNFC:
Yes, because it's not designed by Google. Google don't want their own devices having competing NFC services, but they're happy to put Google Wallet onto other people's devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
What else would it be competing with other than wallet? Which has been shown to work with other devices as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] foosion:
On windows machine, you can access the built-in storage over USB using windows explorer. Is there any way to access it through the command line?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
No, because there is no drive letter assigned.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Well sort of. You can use "adb push" and "adb pull" to move files back and forth.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Ah yes, there is that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LoveNFC:
I'm not sure we understand eachother here. Of course Google Wallet will work on other devices that have MicroSD slots - Google wants the service on as many phones as possible; they want to be the market leader for NFC payments.

It's precisely because of this that on the two phones where they have absolute control over hardware, they have made sure that competing companies cannot place their NFC products onto the Nexus. This is why there are NFC payment solutions in the market that use the MicroSD as the secure element (e.g. Moneto), but these will of course not work on Nexus devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Its a theory and I respect that, but I still think its as simple as their file manager explanation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BeerChameleon:
I don't mind no sd card the only thing that annoys me is copying my files to my computer if i am going to relock the bootloader for some reason which probaly will be never LOL unless i have to exchange my phone if i crack the screen or whatever.

I also like 32gb of onboard storage better cause i don't have to worry about transferring apps to sd card. Plus i will never run out of room and if i do ill just hook up my portable usb stick or hard drive. But 32gb is plenty for me and is faster transferring. And less of a hassle installing apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LoveNFC:
Thank you. However, I suspect that Google have also removed the physical ability to use the SIM card as a secure element for NFC payments in the Nexus devices.

If I'm right, by the end of the year you'll be hearing a bunch of complaints about ISIS not working on the Galaxy Nexus or Nexus S. This would almost confirm that limiting third-party NFC options was (one of) the main reason(s) behind the removal of the MicroSD slot.

We'll have to wait and see.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
I actually don't wanna fiddle with SD cards and therefore hope non-expandable storage is the future.

I don't think I could afford a class 10 32GB sd card, most likely I could get a class 6 8gb or something like the sd card I have for my Nexus One. I'm sure even sure if a class 10 sd card can measure up to the read/write speed of NAND flash memory.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] luftrofl:
I thought it was so that developers didn't have to worry about app data storage suddenly being inaccessable if the SD card was removed.

But yeah. These tinfoil hat stories are fun too. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] frigidazzi:
Yeah, I think this is one of the reasons too. So they should make a 16/32 gb GN like they did now, but only limit apps to install files on internal storage. Then allow me to put what ever I want on SD card? Like media. I still will never fully understand their rationale.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
Well that was a bit contradicting. :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] foosion:
A problem with the idea that no SD card is to make it easier for developers is that many phones the developers are developing for have SD card slots.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] geoffcorey:
Are you talking rom developers or app developers?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zeke1988:
at first, i thought i will need a SD slot. but after 6 months and i still got 20 GB left...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Nexus devices should have minimum 32gb. The sd dilemma could easily be solved by allowing only read access to media type files and such from the phone to it if it really is about pushing the secure element being limited to google wallet. Otherwise this is a bunch of crap and nexus and google are slyly pushing bloatware onto us on an unlocked phone. I am sure google wants the wallet to succeed as there is a looooooooooot of potential revenue being the middle man for digital money but fu google. Not having the "option" just screams hypocrisy and feels like.... well being used an abused like a us cellular provider does us. Getting less and putting out more. Seeing a lot of good points made in this thread and just reading in between the lines google is limiting the end user for its own gain when usually google uses us, it is everybody's gain and i am all for that. End of rant.

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[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] XTacDK:
Hello! As everyone now i use right now Galaxy Nexus, but i am getting back my mini! And i will use it to school cause i dont like at take expensive phone to my shool :(

But i will not be an user... I want to start my adventure with making Custom ROMs, and i am begging to read some tutotrails! :) So maybe, shortly you will se an Custom ROM by me! :)

So... Hello again, my fav community :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] aloy99:
Good luck and looking forward to see content from you!

Just remember not to take MiniCM7 and take out some system apps and call it a new rom.
[Wildfire General] Pator57:
I all i see the miui v 4 thread had been stoped for the buzz.

So i would like to now if somebody continue this rom in order to have working camera and camcoder with miui v4.There is tuto to port miui v4 in the android software and dev.Use the cm9 by erwin.p as the base and if it's work upload your build here.

HERE BETA LINK:

http://www.mediafire.com/?q79lz6kjyauynic

WILL fix problem with the gerith of erwinp.

https://github.com/ErwinP/android_device_htc_buzz/commit/ba613168e0ceff1696890bf1de581e8e42f476e8
[Wildfire General] nasty007:
it is not so easy to port it
[Wildfire General] Pator57:
I know i tried and have bootlop a lot of times so ask help.
[Wildfire General] Justice™:
Why not figure it out yourself. And take time to learn, rather than asking for help. People are busy, and have social/family lifes to deal with.
[Wildfire General] Pator57:
I try but i have bootloop do you understand and if you don't want to help us get out !

It's not an offance.
[Wildfire General] Scratch0805:
Sounds offensive to me, and I think you'll find Justice has done a heck of a lot more round this forum than you have and probably ever will do. Also how is this development? It should be in q&a.
[Wildfire General] Pator57:
When i say get out it's from the thread not from the forum.And i repeat it's not an offance.
[Wildfire General] ghostbusted:
so much talking ... but i dont see your work ... why dont you work on it ? Not just ask other people to work, im not a developer but i know that very difficult to port and develope a rom, need some time and patience, ... if you a really a developer .. just try it yourself and if you have struggle, i believe the other developer like mr justice and friend are ready to help ... :cool:

"Tapatalkerz"
[Wildfire General] Lesicnik1:
Okay you seem to not even be helping yourself here.

Not sure if you heard about it, being a pro developer and all, but there's a nice tool called Logcat, which can help you, or someone that knows more, why the thing isn't booting.
[Wildfire General] Pator57:
Teach me how do.

I only take latest cm9 rom replace framework ,app and it replace too other thing.
[Wildfire General] Pator57:
Im not a dev i only try to have fully working miui v 4 for wildfire it's for that i ask some help :D
[Wildfire General] Lesicnik1:
If you're on you're phone.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm9yZy5qdGIuYWxvZ2NhdCJd

Or via ADB

https://sites.google.com/site/androidhowto/how-to-1/save-logcat-to-a-text-file
[Wildfire General] tathanhlam66:
replace some smali file of framework.jar and services.jar, it can fix bootloop:p
[Wildfire General] Pator57:
Ok will tried but in the tuto there is some file i doesn't found.I take the miui v4 by stelios and i don't found a lot of file.So if i understand well for the framework i replace only the apk file not the jar file???
[Wildfire General] tathanhlam66:
:D:D
[Wildfire General] Pator57:
Will test now.But can't make logcat adb won't install on my computore i thing it's storage problem :(
[Wildfire General] Justice™:
Going to be getting a logcat of the build KoolSavas put up. Does anyone have any idea if it boots?
[Wildfire General] Pator57:
NO Don't boot.
[Wildfire General] Justice™:
Yeah, it doesn't boot. The only thing I can get from the logcat is:
[Wildfire General] tathanhlam66:
you can upload full logcat, i think help build framework.jar and services.jar, it will fix bootloop
[Wildfire General] Justice™:
No, thats the full logcat. For the whole thing. It kept going between one or the other whilst being on the HTC screen.
[Wildfire General] Pator57:
I try with this file before.With that we can see bootanimation.And sory can't make logcat.
[Wildfire General] Pator57:
If you want use the beta rom at base and try to fix camera and camcoder with github.The beta rom boot and a lot of thing are resized so it's better to use that.:D
[Wildfire General] elia222:
Attached logcat :good:
[Wildfire General] Wasimk32:
It doesn't boot.
[Wildfire General] elia222:
Attached logcat, stuck at "Netd 1.0 starting"
[Wildfire General] sentoz:
it was not loaded
[Wildfire General] sentoz:
It doesn't boot.
[Wildfire General] Pator57:
Here uptated stelio rom with working camera.But bug when call ( fc ).I found that in the other miui v4 thread.

http://www.mediafire.com/?0atzd28arrlwu44

Koolsava can you use this rom as base to uptate it?
[Wildfire General] sentoz:
development will proceed?
[Wildfire General] _polimorph_:
resolution?

Hi there!

I'm also in the porting business but for very short time. I have the same issue on porting miui to HTC DHD. I'm curios if and how did you resolved your issue. What caused the problem?
[Wildfire General] elia222:
Use this guide to port miui v4: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1777999

You should get it to boot ;)
[Wildfire General] Vency77:
Someone working on rom here ?

I have almost fully working MIUIv4 Port we can exchange some things :D
[Wildfire General] dud3me:
It'd be great if u shared it! Can live w/o the camera for a while ;)
[Wildfire General] elia222:
In his port camera is working, just laggy ;)
[Wildfire General] dud3me:
Oh well that's even better. :D Have you had the privilege to actually try it?
[Wildfire General] Vency77:
Will rebase it on the last build of CM9 from hacktrix , then a bit testing and will release it tonight or tommorow if everything is good :)

P.S. Is version 2.6.8 ok ?
[Wildfire General] dud3me:
That'd be great! Yeah I guess 2.6.8 is okay, don't really now what's latest 2.7.6?
[Wildfire General] elia222:
Yes, latest is 2.7.6 :p
[Wildfire General] tathanhlam66:
haha, I only took 20 minutes to port MIUI V4
[Wildfire General] Vency77:
Ye , you are the master, thanks for the help

And I am ready with rebasing(porting) it , I just want to test if everything works ok and if there are some bugs :)
[Wildfire General] tathanhlam66:
good luck, vency :p
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] homesite:
can't get videos to show on the below website. It worked on my note and s2. Does anyone know how to fix on the s3?

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?/topic/71694-gtr-burning-out/
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nativestranger:
I can view it fine. Have you tried installing adobe flash player from Google play store?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sxi200:
Running fine here. Download flash player from Play.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AMoosa:
I have flash installed and the video doesn't play. I get audio but a black screen.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patruns:
I was sitting in my house near wifi when the last update was pushed. Do these updates only push via wifi? I don't want to be out one day and have it blow through my 4G data limit.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chaotic Peace:
IIRC ota updates don't count against your data usage
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] El Daddy:
They sure do.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patruns:
If they are not pushed by your provider they sure do!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Herman76:
You dont have to download it when the notification arrives if you worry about that.

Swyped on my CM9 Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patruns:
Good to know, though I do not recalled being offered the choice going to 4.04.....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
It'll download over any connection you have but you don't have to update when you get the notification.

Not sure why you're worried about your data cap from an OTA though lol. The download is tiny in comparison to your cap.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eon_designs:
Hello all

Is it possible to show notifications such as missed calls, sms messages etc on the lock screen of the S3?

I came across this image of but don't know if it is real, or if it requires a 3rd party app installed.

Thanks. eon
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] valerio.tosti:
you need just to slide down the statusbar!:p
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaimeletelierhay:
That looks really good. Good question, possible 3rd party app or the handset has been rooted. If you find out please post....
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tsukurimashou:
aren't missed calls already showing up on lock screen?

Sent from my beautiful GS3 int unlocked, rooted and beloved.