yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommy24:
No more camera search, thank god. I hit that stupid thing so many times a day.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vfox126:
This is a free country you are aloud to complain about something as much as you want. Even when it is offered up at no charge. Rare thing these days. You are also aloud to flash another rom if you don't like this one. Do your thang Mikey.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
I've got an idea! Just flash the damn stock kernel in the MeanROM folder... Done
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
It's all good. I've been coding various platforms for a long time. If the only thing I learned is that people want different things, I'm ahead of the game already. Criticisms, likes, dislikes, are all fair. Only thing required is a general respect for others and overall, I think we do pretty well in this thread. I try to give as many options as possible because I know we all want things the way we like. Admittedly, I can't do 'em all though, so sometimes you gotta live with what you got, or maybe another ROM will be closer to what you need. No harm no foul. Plenty of good ROMs out there.

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] netengineer:
Yeah, that's the ticket. lol (dating myself) BTW, Great point!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SquireSCA:
Hope that is the case. Love the ROM, but I use my phone for work and am not willing to sacrifice stability for a few benchmark points that mean absolutely nothing in real world usage...

I guess it can have multiple kernels and just have Aroma ask you which one you want to install?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kaeXo:
Bummer bro. :( You try it on more than one network?

Swyped from my LTEVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rootlinux:
Here is my input on OC kernel.

For anyone that flashes OC but doesn't like to use OC then just install an app like Antutu CPU Master or another cpu control app and adjust it lower.

Simple to do.

Makes everyone happy.

Mikey makes this for free and spends his own precious personal time doing it.

Least we can do it something on own own.

Personally I adjust settings to my liking on any OC kernel.

Change governor or whatever.

Just because you have a kernel capable of OC doesn't mean you have to run it OC.

Thanks for all you do Mikey. :)

Great job.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
Its the case, just flashed the 1.8 OC but there ARE stock and 1.7 options on the latest candidate.

Mike I'm able to pull 1823 om geekbench but antutu won't finish the test. I had this problem before with the evil kernel at 1.89 and then after a while it mysteriously went away. Im running 1.8 with everything working other than antutu. I'm glad you got into kernel deving, now I don't need to go outside this thread except for themes!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rootlinux:
I am waiting on someone to add a 2wcr hack to any LTE kernel for the new base.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] netengineer:
I had this same issue and found out it was my WiFi router. Since I switched it I have not had the issue. Just a thought.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] manaup:
That actually made me lol like lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sloth:
Move in already try a nice CM10 rom fir a while and see really how glitchy MR is...enjoy bubye
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] NORCALkID:
I'm on V1.0 and i would like to know how to get the 3 dots menu back :-)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
Look in your meanrom ics folder on SD
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tybo31316:
Rofl, I wish I could get it to take up half the screen that would be cool
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] NORCALkID:
Lol just said it to bust people's balls lolololol hadn't been able to check this thread in 2 days and all I read about was about that stupid 3 dot menu button.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] interhawk1:
Thanks for the update Mike!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tybo31316:
Yeah I know I was just adding fuel to the fire. But to get back on topic. I can't wait to try 1.0 with the new CPU speed and check out the battery life compared to .8
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] edgemaster191:
Edit: please ignore me, i'm getting myself mixed up. Trying too many roms in a short amount of time and only 3 hours of sleep in the last 24 hours.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] NORCALkID:
Same here I had horrible battery life on .8 I don't know why. Hopefully 1.0 is better for me
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tybo31316:
My battery life is awesome on .8 I'm scared to flash another version
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PsiPhiDan:
I know, I know... Benchmarks mean nothing... But this was peculiar to me considering I just flashed 1.0 with the extra CPU speed. I haven't switched over to battery mode or done any tweaks, FYI.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] getitoutme2:
Does anyone have the remapping flashes available? My MeanROM-ICS folder is empty, for some reason.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
My battery life was great on .8 as well, just updated to 1.0 so we shall see. If not, we can always revert back with a nandroid
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] prboy25:
:D im happy

Sent from my EVOlte
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xanmanz31:
sd card partition

im wanting to partition my sd card. im using TWR with mean rom 0.6

Its my understanding that this will improve function of reading and writing to sd.

when i go in twr to partition theres 2 fields to change how should i set these?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tourbound129:
Yeah I had 6 different zips in there
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] utnick:
Odd. My init file cleared itself and I had to use the bak. That was odd as well.

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Here -- read this. While on the crapper. You'll need to concentrate. It's useful if you're using SetCPU or something like it to change your ondemand governor settings beyond what the init does.

[REF][TWEAKS] Kernel Governors, Modules, I/O Schedulers, CPU Tweaks, AIO App Configs
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ajada85:
Im Still gettin the 67 error while trying to use the wifi tether app or the hotspot app from sprint!! Any help anyone?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KnoxBNYC:
What are the disadvantages/dangers of turning "quick charge" to "ON"?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kyusaku:
Any chance in considering changing the Sense4 Task Switcher to the stock ICS one? Probably my 1 big gripe with Sense4.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KnoxBNYC:
You mean vertical instead of horizontal?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KEYofR:
If someone would once address any actual point I raise instead of making personal attacks just because I had the temerity to suggest something somewhere isn't perfect...

How is bowing and scraping and never saying anything is wrong helpful?

Even Mikey is not asking for that.

A bunch of yes-men does not help make the rom better or serve the needs of users. Hiding or ignoring problems does not make them go away.

You say "Mikey does this for free". That's a given of course, but so what? Why do you suppose he does that? Purely for his own amusement? If the rom started to suck for all but a few people who were either lucky or had a high tolerance for errors, do you think he would find that rewarding and satisfying?

What is the point of producing this rom? For it to be worse than stock? For people to tell their friends "oh if you want this phone to work well, avoid those 3rd party roms. They have some cool features but they also have annoying problems because the developers are fast and loose and surrounded by people who think criticism is a bad thing. So for you you probably want to avoid that because I don't want to be responsible for recommending it to you and then you have problems." No I don't think that's exactly a _goal_ of Mikeys. I can't say for sure of course, but somehow I just doubt it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zosopage:
am I missing something? I thought this was all explained in the first posts of the thread? I have seen it over and over where someone doesn't read the changes but does the install not caring to do due dilligence. If you updated via the OTA updater, it does tell you that overclock is now on. If you just downloaded and installed----well it is on you for not reading what you were installing. I mean, I understand your frustration, as I have done the same thing as you, but why are you directing your frustration outward when it should be directed at the person that chose not t read what you were installing. Just sayin'......

Z
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
I answered you.. I dont know about your initial issue but for the latest about OCing by default, all you have to do is read. So again, the stock kernel is in the mean rom folder. There is a difference between being critical of a feature that you yourself can change (flashing stock kernel) and downright bit*hing.

You call us yes men lol because you're the minority (not wanting to OC), most of us want to have the OPTION to go faster! I keep my phone at stock speed most of the time but I like that I have the OPTION to push it to 1.8.

My advice is to lower your frequency to 1.5 or below, Flash the stock kernel, or flash another rom bro.. You've got a community here to help but all you do whine no one gives a sh*it
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] netengineer:
I thought I did. I addressed it. Move back to a stock ROM. As far as a personal attack....

YOU ARE A TOOL!!!

Criticism is fine but you should do it in a manner that it is "constructive". Just be nice.

How about this..Everyone who agrees with the above statement hit the “Thanks Button” I bet I hit over 100 by the end of the day. (You really don’t have to, just making a point)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
For me it's really simple: I use the default that I believe the majority of people want. Then I provide the others as flashable zips. The default only becomes the default out of convenience: the fewest number of people having to flash the fewest number of files. The only difference it makes is an extra couple of minutes when installing each ROM upgrade if you want the stock kernel. It's right there on your phone to use if you want it.

Also, and I think this is probably the most relevant point, right now we have no reports of anyone having any problems whatsoever with the default 1.7 OC kernel. Until I see a significant "failure rate" then, the 1.7 will remain the default and the others: you can flash yourself.

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Adebayo88:
Hey Mikey,

Will we be losing any of the mods/tweaks if we downgrade to 1.5 instead of the 1.7 that comes with the ROM?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Nygel:
No need to explain Mike, for example you go to Ford to buy a Cobra Mustang: there is no way when you get home you would call the dealership and say "where is the V6", my point is the options are there just one time it was not and something was said and you put it back in. Other Rom are "it is what it is", you offer alot of options keep up the good work

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FYI do not downgrade firmware, just the Rom
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
If you flash the 1.5 kernel included in the MeanROM folder you will NOT loose any Mean tweaks
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jaydubb71:
+1

I miss that on the OG EVO...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rkclark:
There is one search for awesomesauce
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ryanalan82:
Almost sounds like u shouldn't be flashing roms if u don't want to take risks or be anywhere close to the edge of you're phone. Every flash is a crap shoot, and if your going to complain about any risks or even bricking your phone than u shouldn't be here. Me, I'm looking to be more on the edge and can't wait to flash an ******* kernel by ****, to combine with meanrom. Sorry, but just my 2 cents.

Swyped from my eVo
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
Let's try to keep things on track. I'm looking for a few brave souls to try out the 1.8 kernel to see if it runs just as reliably as the 1.7. It does for me, but I'm interested to know if anyone has any trouble, glitches, etc.

Thanks,

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
No issues whatsoever, it's fast and stable. Charging to full now to test battery life
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Curb71:
I have all bars of 4G in Los Angeles!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cherylbaker:
Installed 4.8.1 and to my surprise it works.. quadrant score but impressive(6345).. but with antutu I finally hit over 9000(9068 to be exact).. seems like it might run to hot but we will see
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] nohart:
When installing this do you just do it in recovery? And then does this become a selection in TWRP that you can use? Or how does it work?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RyanInAj:
Working here after a dirty flash from 4.8- though I've never had probs with OC - up to 2.1.

Real world use is smooth and snappy but I'm not seeing 9k yet. Perhaps some more settling is taking place.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
Wow I'm in Northridge envious lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
Edit: so am I but notice the signal strength :confused:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Curb71:
I'm at Universal Studios. You should have it there!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] il Duce:
I've received reports against you. I've reviewed some responses. Here's my shortest possible answer to you, while trying not to step on Mike's toes and also enforcing the rules of XDA (I'm a forum moderator in case you don't know).

This website is called xda DEVELOPERS, not xda EVERYTHING IS STOCK. The developers here do what they want to see their phone do, some of those devs share their work with the community.

It is clearly documented in the first page what this rom contains and it's options and defaults, it just takes some reading. As for how this rom is built and delivered, you have absolutely zero say in it whatsoever. Mike has provided options for users who prefer other options than the default, for many of the packages available.

Clearly, the methods this rom uses aren't objectionable on the whole, given the post count and number of views. It is a good rom enjoyed by many.

Now, if you don't like something has been done here, and remain dissatisfied even knowing the optional files exist, you have more choices. You can flash the stock rom, or one of many other sense roms or aosp roms available.

You can always send a PM as well to share your displeasure, if only to avoid those who come to the defense of the rom dev. You should not, however, publicly declare your views as what should be the standard, because they are not, obviously.

Now, please stop trying to further explain your views, they have been responded to. If I get more reports after this that you've continued your quest, further action may be taken, consider this a warning. Thanks in advance for your compliance.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Curb71:
I did a speed test and got 16.5 down and 7.5 up
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
:D:D:D I'm juiced!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
Just loaded it, and to my surprise it turned my device into an iPhone :)

I'm a tad nervous to try it just yet, as I had crazy sound issues until you switched back to your kernel. I opted for working sound over battery life (from evilz). I can't make it thru the day anymore. I would go out on a limb and say the charge lasts 20-30% less than evilz kernel, but everything works, and the usable speed is pretty similar.

I did speak with an HTC rep who told me our phones, even with the same hardware revisions, can have different component revisions. The only way to ensure the phones are completely identical, is if they came from the same lot. I received my phone before the release date and it was HW3. My wife's was purchased a few weeks after and was still HW3. I had the sound issues and she did not. I'm guessing the number of component revisions is the reason HTC has not committed to upgrading our phone (that's my assumption, which is not based on facts).

I'll wait a few days and enjoy my 100% operational phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] freshlysqueezed:
Mikeyxda,

With the 1.8 kernel on the new nightly, everything is working well. 6715 on quadrant standard. (for comparison purposes only)

:thumbup:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] manaup:
Does being oc make the 3g faster? I'm guessing no, since net work speed is based on many other contributing factors.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rootlinux:
Awesome on the new base doesn't have it yet.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
I'm hoping 1.8 will be as reliable as 1.7 for the majority here and my hope is that like the 1.7 OC, it'll be very difficult to find anyone who can't run 1.8 Ghz. What I'm doing here is trying to find the best bang for our buck. When you pass 1.8 and you go to 1.9, 2.0, or 2.1 Ghz you have to raise the base voltage of the voltage regulator. I'm still in my infancy WRT kernel hacking so I make no claims of "knowing" but from what I can tell, you have to set the core voltage of the voltage regulator to the maximum voltage needed to run the CPU clock at all frequencies you plan to use. From there, you can assign basically some percentage of that core voltage to each CPU clock speed. Stock is 1.3 volts so you can assign anywhere from .85 volts to 1.3 volts to the CPU, typically .85 volts being for 384 Mhz and 1.3 volts being for 1.5 Ghz.

The nominal voltage typically used for the stock 1.5 Ghz is 1.2v so you can really get away with carrying the stock 1.3v core voltage up to about 1.8 Ghz. Beyond 1.8 Ghz you need more than 1.3 volts so you have to run the core voltage higher, say 1.35 volts. What I'm doing with the 1.8 Ghz is picking the maximum reliable speed that will run with the stock 1.3v core voltage. By doing that and not raising the core voltage higher than stock, I believe we will see a significant performance increase without having to have the core voltage stepped up in order to do that. I believe the result is better performance without a huge hit to battery life. The CPU only needs a 0.1v increase in voltage to run at 1.8 Ghz compared to 1.5 which in itself doesn't mean a whole lot, but I think it makes sense to run what you can under the stock core voltage.

All this is a long winded way of saying that there's a reason for me going to 1.8 to try it: but it's not an indication that I'm reaching for the sky. Don't expect anything beyond 1.8 because I believe after 1.8 Ghz, it's serious diminishing returns.

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
It can make the browser respond quicker, but for faster speeds, you need to ask sprint for either more towers in your area (less network load) or move to a location where 4G is up and running.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KEYofR:
1) "recieved reports"? So what? I could report anyone that annoyed me too. I don't. Why not? Because _I'm_ the jerk?

2) Why do you or anyone else jump to the assumption that I don't like this rom, don't appreciate what Mikey does, don't understand what it means to hack things? Good grief I was probably hacking stuff when half of you were not yet born.

If I describe some process that I observe, for me it's only about the thing that happens. It's technical. It's not me turning things personal and thus ugly. My major failure that I'll admit to is letting people get away with illogic.

When Mikey, or anyone else has a difference of opinion, that alone is no problem for me. What Mikey just said about setting the defaults to result in the least work for the most people, and waiting to hear problem reports before worrying too much about it, those are perfectly sensible arguments to me. That kind of discussion is not the problem. People are claiming and acting like I'm guilty of being that petty and intolerant and self absorbed, but frankly I think that's just a great example of projection in action.

When I said "you can not say 1.7 is good yet" that's all I meant. I did not say "and therefor you shall not make it the default" all I said was the simple truth that is there for anyone who has ever actually engineered and scaled anything to see.

Of course you have to use a thing to ever find out if it's good. And of course within a developer community, it even makes sense to make a new thing a default, within that special developer community context.

I will absolutely continue to have a problem with anyone who takes a technical discussion and tries to make it personal and/or accuses me or implies I said things I didn't say. Why would you ask anyone to tolerate that?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
just installed 4.81 with the 1.8 kernel and all seems fine. no glitches to report
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mumbles202:
In an effort to address my people issues can I safely fo the following:

1. Do backup of all user apps with TB

2. Full wipe and install 4.4 or 4.8

3. Reboot system

4. Setup google account and allow to sync

5. Reboot recovery

6. Flash the stock kernel

7. Reboot and restore apps with TB but no data

Currently on 4.4 but don't remember when the people app issues started.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] comstar:
I've searched but cant find the answer. How can I change the stock email notification sound? Everything I have tried won't change it. It won't follow the default system notification sound and there is no sound option in the email settings, just sound on or off. On 4.8 with blueberry theme.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
I can't remember if if was 4.4 or 4.5 that I had that issue. With 4.8 all is well
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rmarinella:
Why in certain apps (tapatalk, dolphin, maybe others) am I getting the 3dot menu still? On 4.8, have done clean wipe, had same on 4.7.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zosopage:
going for it

S=on, installing 4.8.1... downloading right now... will update later on battery life and antutu scores, which on 4.8, are about 8526. More important to me is the battery life, so if that goes down, I will back off to 1.7 again... currently, with moderate use, I get 24 hours easily.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Tazmandeux:
Got a tip...

I have a tip....

I've been dirty flashing since the new base. I was not seeing the battery performance others were getting.

So, I did a complete wipe including system, installed 4.8 fresh, re-installed all my apps from scratch from the Play store and voila!... I am getting awesome battery life and the best performance ever.

My hat is off to Mikey and his instructions in Post 1, Section III, last paragraph.

Cheers
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Osirus71:
Open up Gmail>Settings>Tap on your email account name>Ringtone&Vibrate>Ringtone>Use"Common Resource">Profit........

Word......;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
Just some friendly advice, and please don't respond to it, as this conversation needs to just end... Just let it go and enjoy the rom. If it doesn't work for you, and your requests are not worth the developer's time, simply move on to a different rom. A lesson I had to learn, when all I thought I was doing was standing up for Mikey, is your point of view (whether technical or preference) can be taken the wrong way. However, responding to a stern comment from a moderator will never earn you any brownie points, and will ONLY lead to leaving a bad taste to users, moderators and mostly developers.

Of course this is my POV, so you have to decide how you want to handle things. If you are so amped up, this might not be the rom for you. I will end with, there are lots of roms, but you will never find another developer who communicates with his users as frequently as Mikey and grants more requests anywhere!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Osirus71:
I always do this and thats why I hardly ever post any problems.......:p

---------- Post added at 06:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:12 PM ----------

Goto Settings>Display and Gestures>Resent Apps Button> then choose the way you want it modified..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zosopage:
so, I am thinking of doing a full wipe, but here is the deal... I know this sounds like a noob question, (it is), but i own titanium pro, but I don't think I have ever used it correctly. So I do a full backup, wipe everything, install, but how do I restore all the app data? I have the phone set up perfectly right now with the apps doing what they are supposed to do, but I think there is some trick to just installing the apps, and the app data, that I am missing. And HELL if I am going to install everything again...

What I am looking for is :

go to this, push that,

go to that, push this.... (see---- total noob question)