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[Windows 8 General] SL_Don:
I think Microsft is in full panic mode. The Iphone/Ipad and Android devices have shown the average consumer that they dont need Windows any more. Microsoft is scrambling to unify their interface so that they can hang on to curent customers. WP7/7.5 was a stopgap mesure to introduce the UI but fill the void while they readied Windows 8. unfourtunatly it might already be too late as the consumer market moves to Android and IOS and Windows 7 is looking like its going to be XP's second comming. (corporate use which is just starting to adopt win 7 will hang on to it for the next 15 years like XP) Windows 8 will just kinda pop in and out like Vista did. wich is good for the consumer becaus finally after 20 years of windows being the only game in town we will have choice. the big thing i think Microsoft missed and Google is just getting is the the secret to IOS's sccess was the content not the device itself. Apple got it all going in the 2003 with Itunes music store.
[Windows 8 General] henly:
I used to be a WM man.....

....Until they stopped supporting it, then I went over to Android and never looked back, I would never trust Microsoft again, I can see the same thing happening again if they deem there is not enough profit in it for them.
[Windows 8 General] slapshot30:
The point I was emphasizing was that MS abandoned literally every previous phone. The Lumia was a flagship that just came out a few months ago. Thats like the HTC One X not getting a new software update if it were to come the next few months. Anyone who recently signed a contract for a WP7 I feel sincerely sorry for them.
[Windows 8 General] Nerz:
I agree that Microsoft has made some mistakes, especially with the upgrade fiasco because that was one of the claimed benefits to Microsoft, that like apple Microsoft controlled the update process and surely if you bought a phone you would see the newest update.

Although that doesn't bother me so much as I haven't gotten a wp7 device to get shafted. Wp8 does look intriguing. Especially the the amount that the mobile and pc operating share code. Hell directX support would make games awesome. However, one thing that after going from windows mobile and android that I don't see myself doing without, is the possibility to side load and use a file explorer. Without that I don't see myself using a smart phone is without that. It's just less pc like to me. If that was possible, Wp8 would look very promising. But heres to Microsoft riding Apple's coattails.
[Windows 8 General] voyager_s:
I have been intrigued by windows phone 7 for a while now but I held back from getting one for one reason...windows 8 or whatever they were gonna call it. Basically I wanted to sit back and see how they were gonna further develop the platform to real big maturity.

The os itself looks really promising and smooth and has a lot of potential. I love the idea of live tiles and the metro UI. I'm quite sure I will be getting a windows 8 device and it won't be a PC first off either! Perhaps a tablet of smartphone.

I think windows is indeed perhaps the biggest threat to android in the long term. Unless apple really bring some innovation and make some changes to that plain boring iOS user interface. But yes windows phone 8 looks awesome and has loads and loads of potential. :eek:
[Windows 8 General] luigi90210:
I feel that android and iOS in the phone industry will always be stable, people don't need to photoshop something or do something that requires a laptop or desktop on their cellphones. I do however believe android's and iOS's greatest threats is windows 8 on tablets whether its arm based or x86/x64 based just because its a better purchase, you have a laptop when you need it and a tablet when your on the go, that's one of the reasons why I replaced my laptop with the acer w500 tablet
[Windows 8 General] mckeowngoo:
PC for gaming : Windows

PC for general : Linux Mint

Tablet : iPad and Touchpad running CM9

Phone : S2 so Android with plenty of ROM options.

Would I switch to a Windows 8 phone? No because Microsoft are now so far behind Google and Apple it hurts.

Windows? Windied more like.
[Windows 8 General] GnatGoSplat:
I completely agree. I hate this kind of planned obsolescence. I used to think Apple was the worst, with their soldered-in CPUs, lack of support for standard storage expansion like MicroSD, batteries that can't be user replaced, and cutting features from major iOS updates to older iPhones for no technical reason. However, Microsoft is really taking the cake here. Not only is it bad for consumers, but it's bad for the environment. We're already a society that generates a ridiculous amount of tech waste, and Microsoft isn't helping. In comparison, Apple is looking pretty good, because when iOS6 comes out, it'll run on the year old iPhone 4S, 2-year old iPhone 4, and 3-year old iPhone 3GS which will be 4-generations behind by that point.

When it comes to planned obsolescence, it looks like Microsoft now takes top honors for being the worst. I used to be pro-Microsoft, but now I hope they miss every sales benchmark.
[Windows 8 General] Jared.M:
Behind by what metric? Sales? Sure. Technologically? After yesterday I really don't think that's the case. I am not sold on the entire interface and metro design ideas, but you can see the phones are pretty capable. If anyone is behind to me, it seems like Apple is woefully behind...

Go look at the feature list for all those older phones with iOS 6 installed. For the most part, it's an upgrade in name only. Planned obsolescence? I am running the iOS 6 beta right now on a 4S and it is quite obvious the next iPhone will have a taller screen. So many interface elements now feel cramped and the "window" into the OS now seems much too small. This includes the design for the App Store, the new Maps, etc. It actually seems to me, quite clearly, that the ONLY "very good" iOS 6 experience will be occurring on the new iPhone.

The bottom line is that the upgrade experience on all of these mobile devices is incredibly poor. No one really does it right. At this point they should be as open as PCs. You buy a phone, you install whatever OS or software you want. The idea that carriers, and to a lesser extent OEMs, have any say on this over the user is ludicrous.
[Windows 8 General] GnatGoSplat:
I haven't actually tried iOS 6 so I can't comment on the user experience, but it'll be more than just an upgrade in name. Since the core framework and kernel are being updated as well, it will run apps that are specifically compiled for iOS 6. It may not be the best user experience, but at least it won't leave people with old devices completely unable to run newer apps.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not praising Apple, but they are certainly looking better than Microsoft in how they treat their existing mobile users. It's completely the opposite of their philosophy with their desktop OS. Windows 7 was supposed to have lower system requirements than Vista so it could run well on older, existing hardware.
[Windows 8 General] luigi90210:
after owning an iphone 3gs I can say that it is a name upgrade only, when my device was upgraded to ios 4 not only was it slow, but it was crashing when I was trying to run apps that were designed for ios 4 and tbh id rather have not been upgraded than have been upgraded to software that was crashing my phone and making it almost impossible to use

sure you get an upgrade but tbh if a phone cant handle a newer os wouldn't it be better to have a good user experience on an earlier version and miss out on some of the new things than it is to have one like I described above

now I'm not defending Microsoft for dumping windows phone 7 for what ever the hell is next but apple is just as bad for breaking peoples phones so they HAVE to buy new ones because of how unusable their phones become
[Windows 8 General] satchef1:
Is this the right place for the 7.8 debate? There's loads of threads for that already.

On topic, I think Microsoft are a threat to everyone right now. Apps on WP8 are potentially far more powerful than those on iOS or Android. The stuff they were talking about in that presentation is pretty stunning, with some amazing possibilities.
[Windows 8 General] fo.manush:
They may be more powerful but the development cost and end price will be higher to recoup the investment from a smaller install base.

I found the lacks of apps and high price of apps the downside of my win 7 phone.
[Windows 8 General] vetvito:
Microsoft is a huge threat to everyone now. At first Microsoft products didn't communicate good with each other, now you're looking at a real ecosystem. App parity on all of your devices. Same application on the PC phone and tablet. No one else can provide that right now.
[Windows 8 General] luigi90210:
like yourself I also found windows phone 7 to be tasteless for the same reason, but you have to remember this is windows 8, a computer os, not a phone one, you can run every app you can from your desktop on x86 tablets and hybrids

the arm version I'm a bit skeptical about but there is going to be a way to emulate x86/x64 apps on the arm tablets, whether its official or through a company like VMware.

plus its not just about the apps but its also the games that improve as well, you can play full pc games on windows 8 along side with those mini games like angry birds and fruit ninja. not very many tablets out there that can play just cause 2 or call of duty, plus with xbox live integrated it will be a HUGE calling for children who use xbox live on a daily basis, heck its not even kids that will enjoy the xbox live integration, adults can as well. imagine playing hydro thunder or some other multiplayer game with your child while you are out of state/country

windows 8 does pose a huge threat to the android and iOS tablet market shares, sure its not gonna kill them off completely because you got your fan boys on both ends but its gonna be like the pc market share is now 90% windows, 9% apple, 1% inux/android

^THIS
[Windows 8 General] _Variable:
Actually, Both in Plat Store and Apple Apps Store, There are what we call universal apps fir both phone and tablet. 1 app for 2 devices. nothing new. Except for the PC part ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] CrisCo71:
Anyone have any recommendations on how to setup SetCPU for optimal configuration on an Acer A500 tab? It's the full licensed version, and the tab is running Skrilax_CZ's v8 bootloader ROM'd with latest FlexReaper (if that matters...).

THX!
[Acer Iconia A500] Moscow Desire:
At the risk of repeating myself.... see here;

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1723376

Posted an hour or so ago in the General Forum. ;)

(you folks need to look a little bit)

And, "Optimal" is a personal choice between OC and battery life. ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] CrisCo71:
thx

Sorry... I didn't see that specific link on the site search, but I was asking more specifically about voltages and governor options.

E.g. Should I change my "boost factor"? "Max boost"?

I know there's tuts for SetCPU available, but I was asking more specifically about the A500.

Sorry for the noobiness?...

Thanks.
[Acer Iconia A500] Moscow Desire:
Not a problem. Here's some cliff notes on OC/UV

Rule #1. Not all Tegra2 processors are created equal. Some are more tolerant to OC than others. This is due to the manufacturing process. Example, I can run 1686 on mine, and remain relatively stable. Most are not so lucky. Depends on what manufacturing lot they were created.

Governors. This controls how the processor behaves. Generally, most use Interactive, On Demand, or Performance. Interactive gives the best battery life, and still a responsive tab. On Demand, is probably the most commonly used. Gives processor power when needed. Performance keeps the processor ramped up all the time. (uses more battery because of this). Then there is Lulz which is relatively new to the 500. This is like a combination of the prior. In theory, will give you the most bang, while still not killing your battery.

Schedulers. This is your IO. Currently for the 500, there are 2. Noop and BFQ. Noop comes stock. BFQ is by far a better IO scheduler.

As with SetCpu, I don't like it's new interface. I use SystemTunerPro. Nothing wrong with either though.

You have to decide what you use your tab for. If it's for normal use, I would leave it at interactive with BFQ. If you are playing games, I would run Lulz or Performance, and increase CPU to take advantage of the GPU overclock.

Max boost you probably won't need unless gaming or watching video.

I run mine at 1200mhz, -50UV across the board, lulz and BFQ with 1024.(system tuner pro)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] prophet_in:
has anyone tries the product

i am waiting for it to get launched in india though the sony mobile web site states its launched but their call center says not yet anyone here got a clue
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] lingamkrishnan:
please check the link below. it shows its still coming soon and costs from

£99.00..am also waiting for this bluetooth headset!!

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/smart-wireless-headset-pro/
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] prophet_in:
its launched in clove uk site as well as some asian countries also expansys.com says its launched

please check

has any note user got a hold of it any reports and reviews appriciated
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] lingamkrishnan:
Yes..i found the same in expansys..but when you try to place an order, it will show that it will deliver after the launch or something like after 1 month of time..I tried many times and got the same thing
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] landmoon:
I finally got sony mw1 for my note ,

my previous headset was samsung hm3200

call sound quality is same, built quality is same

you can see the caller number and name (after loading the apps from market), you can see the call logs and redial

some how you should see the phone book, read sms , voice contol your phone (write mail etc) , but I couldnt figure it how?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] igorstef:
This video from clove should help.

I don't think you can see phone book. You should be able to see SMS message, Emails and GMails (however not whole message) after installing Messaging, Gmail and Email application. Also, as far as I can see, you can enable reading for individual applications using Text to speech option of Smart Wireless Headset Pro app.

Please let us now if notifications work properly (seems like email app works only on Sony phones). Also check if you can see songs name when you run stock player and then try some 3rd party players like PowerAmp.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] prophet_in:
Anyone can make a video not the video from Sony but actual user video
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] landmoon:
you cant download the email apk from market, I found it from google , load it but it doesnt work..sms app is working , now I can read the incoming sms

I cant see the song names etc. it says "unknown" ( I'm using apollo player -parandroid rom-

I got this headset for daily phone usage , but the stereo earings wire is too long when you attach the clip to your shirt.

I couldnt find any mono earings with short wire so I cut the original one, reattach and now its a mono earing with 20 cm wire :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] prophet_in:
landmoon

do u get names of contacts when you get a call or just numbers??
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] landmoon:
both ; "you can see the caller number and name (after loading the apps from market), you can see the call logs and redial "
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] igorstef:
New version of Poweramp (2.0.6-build-508) currently available only on web site supports titles for BT devices which probably also means it will show song titles on MW1.

This is great news since PowerAmp is one of the best players out there.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] landmoon:
yesterday when I connect to market it said there is an update for limewire manager, so I updated it ,

after that it says there is an update for sony smart headset ,and I updated it also (the headset get the updates from the phone via bluetooth, loads and reboots itself, cool :) )

but now it sometimes disconnects with the phone :(

( the bluetooth indicator at the phone turns grey as if there is no connected devices)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] shelay:
Alternative

why not just get the SE MW600. equally as good and superb sound quality. does not display text messages or contact name. it does display the telephone numbers though. use it with my SGN and it is absolutely brilliant.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] igorstef:
This is significant upgrade comparing to MW600. Fore example you can also use it as stand alone mp3 player. On top of that functions of this device are extendable. For now you have call log (this is also something you don have on MW600) and that small app that allow you to find your phone, but in the future it can have more useful applications.

Whether it's worth the price is up to you but currently it offers much more than any other bluetooth headset on the market.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] landmoon:
the most important function is showing name of the caller. (but I think a developer could make an app for this function for mw600)

- earbud cord must be shorter.(like samsung hm1500)

- screen could be bigger

- needs apps to support device: voice control (call x , open music , navigate to ....) , voice dictation (write sms ; dear xda..) , email reader ( 1 new mail , from... )
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] landmoon:
- while talking to somebody if an other person calls you , you hear a beep.......beep..... warning but it is so loud, that you cant hear the people talking to you:(
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] sahiltyagi:
Booked mine from clove.uk for 7k inr , ahud update u once i get it
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] landmoon:
I start to think that I'm the only buyer of this product
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] beestee:
Is the battery any bigger? I am about to pull the trigger anyways because I love the idea of offloading my music onto a separate microSD.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] prophet_in:
getting my piece from hong kong on sunday will update with details by the way it costs 998 hkd
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] igorstef:
I've received my headset from Taiwan :)

All in all I am satisfied. On the note I tested following applications:

1. GMAIL Extension

2. SMS Extension

3. Call Log

4. Find Phone

All work as expected and you can set device to read messages both GMAIL and SMS. Regular Emails Extension is not compatible with note. Also if you are using PowerAmp as player you will get songs info on the display (make sure you are using version 2.0.6 508 build or later).

Headset can be connected to two devices in same time. For example I am using it for my Vaio Z laptop and the Note. Also be aware there is still problem with mSD greater the 2 GB. I have one 8GB card that I didn't manage to use with this headset. I didn't try to hard to make it work but simply formatting it to FAT32 and then loading music on to it using supplied USB card reader didn't work.

My biggest complaint is with FM radio. You can't save presets and on top of that every time you start FM radio it will reset to 0 instead at least remembering last used frequency.

It's too early to comment on the battery life so I need to drain it couple of times before start checking how long it will last.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] cdmackay:
Apols for slightly OT, but can someone please recommend a BT headset (primarily for voice) that does correctly show Caller ID name, with ICS, specifically CM9, please?

From various reviews, it seems that the MW600 may show caller number, but not name?

I find that one of the few *speakerphones* to work correctly is the Sony Ericsson HCB-150, but am also after a headset... thanks much for any comments.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] igorstef:
MW1 shows caller id name on stock ICS rom XXLRG (Android 4.0.4). If CM9 uses appropriate bluetooth profile it should be same as with stock rom. As far as I know CM9 uses AVCRP 1.3 so you should not only get correct caller id name but also song titles if player app supports it and as I already mentioned PowerAMP is one that does. I am even getting contact name and call duration using Skype on my laptop but sadly android Skype apparently doesn't use advanced features of AVCRP 1.3 profile and it doesn't send contact name.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] cdmackay:
thanks much; just ordered one from Handtec.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] prophet_in:
what price? did you get
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] prophet_in:
is the price inclusive of customs duty? net landed or shipping extra and how many days for delivery
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] cdmackay:
Handtec have it for £68.39; they also have some "open box" ones for £56.39
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] Goodm7sn:
Can u use it at the same time while it's charging?

I have Sony Ericsson mw600, and I can't use it while plugged into the charger! Which is a major inconvenience for me...

Thx
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] prophet_in:
Got my today it working superb yes it works while charging trying all the features
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] prophet_in:
Some apps are not compatible with note but what the heck it's a beautifully designed product hope Samsung learns a bit
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] Fatila:
I'd actually be interested in this first and foremost as an mp3 player and occasionally sync it with phone to replace the clip+ which has dreadful battery life. How is it in that regard? There are no reviews up. Also I hope it doesn't have the dreadful EU volume cap like the S series does, was impossible to use that outside and had to give it away.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] igorstef:
I don't have complaints regarding loudness. But that's subjective matter. Previously I've used Sony Ericsson HBH-DS220 and now I am using MW1 and Plantronics BB 903 for bicycle rides. MW1 is much louder then HBH-DS220 and little less loud then BB 903.

As stand alone player, you might have problem as it supports only mp3 and wmv files. Also I didn't manage to use it with card bigger then 2GB (apparently problem with current firmware) but even when they fix it its quite possible that it will be slow to brows with large collection.

On the plus side you can brows by artist,tracks, albums or even use playlists (created in Media go). All in all its probably good as backup option but not good if you are looking for real MP3 player functionality.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] sahiltyagi:
Yep Inclusive of shipping & Taxes .... Update : (Its reached delhi , waiting for it to get to Mumbai asap )
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] prophet_in:
Do let me know when it reaches

Mines having problem connecting through usb
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] igorstef:
Make sure that its turned on before connecting it. I notice it will not offer file transfer conformation unless you first turn it on.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] prophet_in:
It's on but when I connect it asks for transfer files option when I click yes the Bluetooth reboots
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] igorstef:
You are using mSD came with it or some other (over 2GB)?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] prophet_in:
Sameer which came with the pack
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] igorstef:
I have problem with 8GB card, but one come with headset works just fine. Maybe you should try to install Media Go and then try to connect.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] prophet_in:
Media go?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] igorstef:
Here is the link Media Go

Its media manager by Sony.

I've just tried it on my other machine where I don't have Media Go and it still works. Hmmm....Try with Media Go and make sure card is all the way in. But since it works, in my case even without Media Go, you might have defective unit or mSD card.

PS: Also format mSD card using FAT32 with card reader before using it.