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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
I appreciate the idea but no matter how the "partial update" or "patch" idea is twisted, I'm still going to be against it in principle. Unless the system partition is reformatted, completely wiped, and the new ROM installed on a clean slate (which even happens with a dirty wipe if you're installing the full ROM!), you can never be sure you really have the <insert whatever version here> ROM as I intended it. Files on /system get damaged, replaced by users with other versions, permissions get broken, and the installation script is sometimes updated with commands that fix things beyond the files that are in the ROM! The only way to be sure you got the real 2.8 is to download the full 2.8 ROM and flash it.

I'm not really worried about putting out "too many" versions. I have to presume that people are smart enough to look at my (rather detailed) change log and determine when they see something that they need and only use the updates that interest them.

As to the idea to remove the clock from the status bar. Really? It doesn't take up enough space to worry about and having it there ensures that you can always see the time, even in places like the all-apps drawer. We must be getting desperate for mods if that's a serious request. Maybe I'll make a mod that removes the whole screen. Then nothing will ever get in the way. :D

Oh, and Google Now. Yes, it's completely fixed/working except for using the back arrow to back out of the cards display screen. You just use "Home" instead of "Back" at that point. Other than that, it's 100% now. And as to the battery usage, if you expect to be able to use the Google Now features, expect to lose a little battery life. You can't expect the phone to be constantly checking on the pulse of the entire planet for you with minute to minute updates without some loss of battery life. That's not a GN bug. It's simply a trade-off.

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
Ok, Mike. Guess that is something we are going to disagree on SVN. From what I've seen watching the SuperLTE thread, it seems to work well. But, we'll do it your way.

Can I at least suggest that you add GN to the option folder. I for one have no use for it, and was just starting to enjoy having search to the camera button from 2.6.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] njfoses:
Removing the clock was a serious request as an optional zip, not part of the rom. Its actually a popular mod on other roms and devices. While i think other roms take theming a little to far it is nice to have some theme/customization options. Just my opinion.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tolexy110:
dead overnight data

I just flashed the 2.7 meanrom please do i need to do the data fix or its applied to the 2.7 already. thanks
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] njfoses:
It's built in the rom.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
You should be able to do either one. When you long press the search (camera) button, you should get the options in the attached. Choose "Voice Search" and you get what you got before Google Now.

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Luthien1:
i just want to say thank you mickeyxda, your mean rom is the the best on xda, we should vote for best custom rom dev and vote mickey as the best at this time, i dont think anyone else compares, at this point, hes on his game...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
I know... I've heard it a couple times but I have to say, I think it's silly and rather useless. Making a more "readable" battery meter or removing an annoying "no GPS" icon: that's one thing. But the time belongs in the status bar. I dunno... maybe I'm just envious of the people for whom time doesn't matter? ;)

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Septro:
Seems like your different question got the same answer.. figure that.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
Maybe, but I do always appreciate new suggestions, particularly ones that might sway me as I'm not perfect and can change my mind too. SVN seems like a great tool but: (a) it actually makes things more complicated for me and (b) based on what I read about how it works, it still doesn't provide a failsafe solution for ensuring "clean" installs particularly when people are known to "mess in" their own /system. :) I'd say in fact, that's the biggest issue I have to date with problem reports: people diddling. At least when I make them install the full ROM, I know they started with exactly what is in my ZIP file. SVN cannot do that because it doesn't reformat /system. It can't: because it's not a full install. OK, let's move on.

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
I dont use voice search, because I live and work in a loud environment, and voice recognition/search doesn't work through bluetooth. At least if does, it's new to me. I like being able to type my searchs.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DJHUSH:
Thanks!!! thats wat it was!!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lanewhit:
Not that I am any kind of authority but my $.02... Keep doing what you do, how you do! I've tried other roms and keep coming right back here. Everything works and the consistent updates keep me 100% up to date. I can choose to update or not. It's your time you are dedicating so, do what you do and thanks.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Luthien1:
humans, svn, can ruin a download because if your permissions or kernel partitions are off, it will only mess things more up.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
OK, bear with me. Not trying to be difficult: just trying to understand. If you long press search, you get exactly what you got before I added Google Now, plus an extra slot for Google Now. Nothing lost there. If you short press search, you get the Google Now card screen where you can still type your search if you prefer to type. I'm just trying to figure out what you lost with Google Now and why you'd want it optional? It does everything you could do before, and it only adds to that.

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
Give me a few minutes to work with it. I'm just a dumba$$ truck driver, and it takes me a bit to figure out something new...lol

Edit: I see how it works now. Sometimes it opens to the search box, sometimes to voice search. Any way to make it do one or the other, consistently? Preferably the search box.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
Mike,

If Google now is working better, can I possibly request an update before friday. Does the option to track home and office usage tracking work now? I have the addresses in, but the only cards I get are when I actively search for one.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Los Altos:
Since it takes longer to DL an SVN update than a full ROM, I inquired as to the advantages in another thread. The biggest advantage is when multiple developers are contributing to the same ROM. Other than that, it allows for incremental updates in between full ROMs for people who cant wait.

Since Mikey works alone, and updates frequently, I dont see the need for SVN on MeanROM
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
I have fully supported Mikey in this endeavor, and his stance on small updates. I honestly did not know that SVN was harder for Mike. I thought was a decent compromise between Mikey keeping his version stable. But for those of us that have been on his rom for a long while, to stay up with Mike updates w/o having to download what has grown to over 600MB for every update.

Mikey understood exactly where I was coming from. But, as for the rest of you...well I don't two s***s about most of you. Especially somebody that admits to being new to MeanROM.

That being said. Mikey you are doing good work, and I will continue to support it, and you. I didn't intend to start any thing with anybody.

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As I understand it, only the initial download is long. Incremental updates only have to download what has been added, deleted, or changed.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
Please let me make this clear, if you have not been following the posts for awhile... Mikey has no desire for 3rd party updates (goo manager, svn...). Please respect his decision and deal with the big flashes. I'm sure we all have wifi we can access to download quickly. The more you beat on the devolper, the less he will be active in the forum. We have one of just a small few devolepers that are extremely active and motivated.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
i flashed the stock buttom zip and i put the camera button back to stock is there a way to just get the camera to use voice search again?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Los Altos:
Thats what I thought, but you have to DL the changes to your computer, then export to the current ROM folder, then ZIP it, before you put the entire 550MB ROM on your SD card. DL MeanROM takes me 5 minutes, and one step. SVN takes about 8 minutes with 4 steps.

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This should somehow be worded into the OP.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
WELL EXCUSE THE F*** OUT OF ME!!! FROM NOW ON, I'LL KEEP MY QUESTIONS, OPINIONS, AND ADVICE TO MYSELF. AND EVERYBODY CAN GO TO HE!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] nohart:
As per your attachment I am not getting the "Assistant" option is there something I need to do to get this?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] zodagreat:
Is there any reason anyone can think of as to why I can't download apps from the market they all say "problem purchasing application." These are free apps I'm talking about ...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Los Altos:
Chill out dude, I AGREE with you, I dont see any reason to use SVN and we should let people considering this ROM know that in the OP so they stop asking for it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
You read me wrong then. I'm IN SUPPORT of it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Los Altos:
OK, sorry about that then.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lilbitz_1018:
I wad also trying to figure this out. When you tap it, the search box comes up but if you hold it (1st click hold) it goes to voice search
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DevalB:
I normally press the microphone icon to get the voice search, and the box to do a standard search.

Works the same on my Galaxy Nexus running JB.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lilbitz_1018:
Yeah same here but I think he's talking about the different ones like the newer GN search is tap and the old Google voice search with the red ring comes when you hold it.

They both however do voice and text searches
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DevalB:
Ohhh ok, I never used the old one, the new one works really well though.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
For the record.. Mike was open to goo manager some months but they never got back to him about adding MeanROM. With that said Idc about the half gig dl, it's well worth it to me.

Can't wait for the enoch kernel to be fixed so that it can be baked in! That's gonna be something special

Sent from my Mean Ass NuVo LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
Hey, that just Schmoof spouting off about s*** that he doesn't know the history about. Not the first time, and certainly not the last.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] BAttitude7689:
why wont my physical camera button snap a photo!?!? I press and hold and no burst shot...I half press i get nothing.. when in the camera app to take pictures the physical button does not snap a photo...how can i fix this?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] treIII:
V2.7 oc1863 undervolted per mikeys script. What would be the value of a custom kernel?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] treIII:
As Mikey continues to develop his rom. This just gets better and better. Quadrant score means nothing. But this phone is so smooth and efficient. Outstanding rom. Thanks Mikey

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What would be the true values of a custom kernel versus all of what Mikey has done
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mtg981:
Mike,

Something about Busybox - when opening My Backup Pro it gives a message that I need the latest version of Busybox, 1.20.2, for it to operate properly, I downloaded stericson's free Busybox and installed it to /system/xbin. I looked and found busybox in /bin and /xbin, but the app said install to /xbin. Everything has been going ok, but I figure I would check with you, since you have not updated busybox, that this was ok..??
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
I installed the updated busy box from the app and everything seems to be working fine.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] treIII:
If my phone scores this well from mikeys script at 1.863. What are people scoring with Enoch kernel?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kinny89:
I'm having wake lock issues. More specifically a mediaserver wake lock issue, anyone else coming across this problem and have any insight on how to mend it?

I've taken out my SDcard and it's still happening. I cleared my media server data and media exchange data and still nothing.

Thanks.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Los Altos:
I score 59xx on the stock kernel @ 1.71
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thenags:
I tried every way to install 2.7 and it says Failed every time. Different downloads. Installing over 2.5. Clean install. You name it. However, when I try to boot it's installed. Never had this with any of the other versions.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
All I'm asking is read a bit before posting. This has been going on for months. Mike has been very cool with everyone asking for incremental updates, and he politly says he does not want to do it. At some point he will either tell us to go to hell, not be as active in the forum, or worse, leave for another forum. We have it really, really good with a bright, involved developer. Just read before hammering him with something he feels is bad for the forum.

Don't take it personal.

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Just update to the newest version on TWRP and you are good to go.

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Dude, again stop taking it personal. He has said no and asked us to move on. So just move on. Been around here a long time and I know how good we have it with Mike.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
Schmoof,

I did not hammer Mike about anything. I asked about an update sw I thought might be good for all involved. Mike said no, and explained why. And if you bothered to read further, Mike said he doesn't mind me, you, or anybody else asking about ways to this endeavor for us all.

NO, you read one post by me, who you've already had words with, and decided to appoint yourself the thread's Ombudsman. And, frankly, it's not your right. Mike and I disagree on the use of SVN. But, as human beings, we're allowed too.

So F*** YOU, AND HAVE A NICE DAY!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
For that sake of the thread, please let this go. No need to start a personal war. We all want what's best for this group, nothing more. You just need to take it down several notches and realize I was just informing what was Mike has said over and over. No need to curse and make it personal.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
You're right. I'm done

This was already setlled before you stuck your nose in it. But I'm the bad guy. I think it's time to test something new anyway. I'm out.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] il Duce:
I don't feel like deleting posts, so consider this a stern warning.

If you feel the need to yell, or insult people, find the door to xda, and don't let it hit you on the way out.

Respect the OP and stay positive and on topic.

Thank you.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mtg981:
did you check the MD5 Sum?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
Mike is the location storing fixed. I have setup home and office and nothing gets cached. Not sure why that portion of Now is not working. Without it, they system is not proactive.

Thanks
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dbarstad:
I think you all need to count to 10 and find your happy place.

For the regulars, understand that there are over 5200 posts on this thread. NO ONE will 'catch up' on those posts to keep you from having to repeat yourself here and there.

Others, myself included, PLEASE read the OP before throwing on your 2 cents. All thoughts are valid (though not always equal), just use your brain and if at all possible search before you post. (the XDA app is really bad for doing this...but try).

Let's just support Mikey on a kick @$$ ROM.

Hugs,

D

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RyanInAj:
Sweet.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kusanagi-sama:
I should probably do a clean wipe on the next flash. Seems my phone is acting up a bit. Earlier, I tried to e-mail a photo to myself (too lazy to use the USB cable), and gmail wouldn't respond, so I had to restart the phone. Also, phone froze on a restart the day before, had to do the simulated battery pull to get it to turn back on.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mswlogo:
I apoligize that I have not been following all the posts but is "Google Now", now fixed?

It was so bad for me I reverted back to MeanROM 2.4

It's Voice Recognition was so aweful and I could not figure out how to get Bluetooth Voice Dial back on the old Voice Search once it got defaulted to Google Now.

I cleared defaults on every "Search, Voice" and some Google ones but it kept popping the Google Now voice recognition.

Be cool if you could include a "Stock Voice Search.Zip" in MeanROM-ICS folder on the SDCard.

I assume it's the port that isn't quite right, I suspect Google Now and Mikey's work are are fine. It can't be as bad as I'm seeing.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cherylbaker:
Well long clicking on it did not work but hitting menu and clicking set as ringtone did. Wow wow wow I did not know the phone did this.. Thanks for this awesome piece of information..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
It's been awhile since I made one, so that may be the correct way.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] TonyTurboII:
Again, excuse my ignorance, but I can assume the regaw_mod bootloader setup and my splash screen shouldn't be effected?

Also, is the firmware wrapped up in a NAND backup, so if something goes wrong I can go back?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Septro:
Has anyone tried to the old EVO3D Dock Mode with MeanRom yet? It seems to be missing from the LTE and when trying to use the EVO3D APK it errors out and gets stuck with the DockMode icon on the statusbar requiring reboot to get rid of it. I find the dock mode superior to car mode when sitting at my desk listening to podcasts at work, would be great to get this to work.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] awillis111:
Since you are asking about the RegawMOD bootloader tool, I'm assuming you are S-off? Updating the firmware will not affect that. Regardless if S-on/off, it never hurts to make a nandroid backup.

Just follow the instructions in the OP that pertain to your S-on/off status.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cherylbaker:
I asked this before but never saw an answer.. is that a way to manually edit the default for button pushes. I see the info in the zip file but do not know if you can just edit that file to what you want and Rezip and reflash?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DiMENZi0N:
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?t=13654

Use OMJ's Search Button MOD.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] baldben:
No, you can't just edit the files.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
deleted
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chriswbush:
How do you disable wallpaper scrolling?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Nygel:
Its call CAR in the app drawer.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] baldben:
Why would you want less updates? If you only want to flash once a week, flash once a week, but there's no reason for Mikey to limit himself other than for you to feel like you're not missing out on something.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jerz:
Indeed... in fact I like to wait and hear if there are problems with the update before I try it and if there is something in the update that I don't care for then I'll keep waiting... no worries...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Septro:
Car mode and Desk mode are not the same thing.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firebirdude:
lol Who the hell still uses *2??
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kusanagi-sama:
An old person too stubborn to use the internet?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
Before you revert back, there is a 2.7 service pack that addresses Google Search. If you can't find it, I'm happy to help you search for it.

Mike also has a new update that he will be releasing in the near future that apparently will improve upon that.

** Does anyone know if logging off of Google Voice will revert you back to the original Google search (for those who don't want to use the service)?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] oespinoza83:
I flashed last night with no problems. I am on latest TWRP 2.2.1. I did a full flash (last time I tried a dirty flash for 2.5 it didn't go so well). Everything seems to be working great. Love the ROM.

I currently have GN disabled, not bc of battery issues, but bc I really couldn't figure it out. I was asking "when is my next appointment" and it was just doing a web search. Maybe I just need to read up on the commands, etc.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] edboston:
Hey! I resembles that remark. :)

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Does the evo 4g lte support desk mode and if so, what is the usb plug configuration to put it in desk mode rather than car dock mode?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
If tough, as most people here, like myself, want to flash asap. Because of that, I got burned by the 2.7/TWRP issue. I may join you by showing more restraint on future updates. Well at least an hour or so :)

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This site was a big help:

http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-setup-configure-and-use-google-now-98749/
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] njfoses:
Here's another site with many google now commands to play around with. http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/288505/70-things-try-googles-android-41-voice-search
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
This is a great site. There is a youtube video I watched, that had a direct link to this page. I will try to find it and share it.

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I'm all for as many updates as possible. Just don't want to see Mikey burned out. I love that he is so involved with this group. This rom has come a long way in a short time.

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Wow, I ran better battery stats last night, and network locator was pegged, as well as a few other services tied to Google maps and Google now. I really hope Google patches this to allow the phone to sleep better.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] EvoN00b:
So, in my last post I said my battery life was bad after flashing 2.7 and that my BT wouldn't pair up with the phone.

1) After turning off the location services in GN, battery life went pretty much back to normal.

2) BT is working again. Had to unpair it from the HU and restart the phone twice before it would pair again. I've come to the conclusion that the Pandora app sucks. It's supposed to go into BT mode and it usually says ///Alpine but alot of times it won't and I'll have to quit the app cycle the HU source back to Pandora to get it to run again. It's really annoying!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] edboston:
In regards to your BT problem, I have an app that warns about problems with the BT in Pandora. Check the comment out in the description of Torque in Google Play. Seems to be some sort of interaction between the HTC BT drivers and a special feature in apps like Pandora.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
hey mikey,

is there a way we can get recent apps to menu and long press to recent apps instead of the home button? this way feels better for me...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] EvoN00b:
Thanks, just read that. I specifically bought the Alpine HU since it was made to interact with the Pandora app, meanwhile it's been more of a headache than anything. The HU is great, Pandoras app sucks.