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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mysterioustko:
I must say I have to disagree. The only phone I've seen that may be smoother (by a hardly noticeable amount) would be the Galaxy Nexus running Jellybean. I have had the One X, and currently have the GS3 (and Galaxy Nexus), and I don't see where the One X is smoother in some areas. Out of curiosity, what areas did you find the One X to be smoother? On my GS3, I don't experience the periodic hiccups/slowdowns that I got every now and again on the One X. It just runs much smoother overall in my experience. I'm not going to say you're wrong, but I would definitely like to know where the One X is smoother.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] john_tillman:
This has turned into a troll thread. SGS3 can do this and HOX can't. My shot looks better than urs...etc etc....

Moderators need to close this one down...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] MistaButters:
Helping Me Albeit Repetitive

The thread has helped me some, albeit it's getting repetitive and the "Yes it is" "No it isn't" is getting a little old.

The web browser refresh drives me absolutely crazy on the HOX and I am considering getting the SGS3. I have played with both phones and the HOX's look and feel, along with build quality, smash on the SGS3. But when it comes to everyday use, the multitasking issues really get in the way. I can't count the number of times I am filling out a web form and need a password or a number from email, and the browser refreshes so i lose the whole form. Or I am reading Droid Life or Gizmodo and I have to log in, I already have 6 tabs open so I have to close one because it require a tab to login, but when I come back to my login tab it reloads. Drive me crazy. I have never had music stop playing, although I do notice a constant buzz when my phone is plugged into my home or car stereo that I don't notice with my tablet, laptop, or atrix.

For the One X, the hardware dominates, but the software issues may be too much for me to handle anymore.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] john_tillman:
I am glad this worked for you. But, lately it is turning into spitting match between SGSIII users and HOX users. Obviously, as someone mentioned earlier in the thread - software can be fixed but, ugly looking hardware can't be - again, the definition of beauty is relative.

HOX users have a fix using clean ROM that Scott has developed. Also, once the kernel source is released you'll get AOSP/CM9 builds that will be vanilla ICS or JB and it won't matter that your phone came with Sense or multi-task sucked. XDA developers is the place for guys who want to tinker with their devices rather than open box and compare features. I guess 'The Verge', 'Gizmodo', 'Engadget' and other countless blogs/forums will provide bit by bit comparison of each byte on both phones.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] corythug:
Don't take this as bragging or being a douche or anything, just thought this was awesome and was relevant to the thread.

We all know the hox has some multitasking issues, albeit this is some fixed by our awesome devs. But even then I get more reloads then on my ns4g with 512 ram, I don't get it. Today for ****s I opened every app on my SGSIII and hox. How on cleanrom held about 3-6 apps at a time depending on resources needed, number got lower as I opened games mostly. I did this on my stock rooted SGSIII and it actually cached every app and I could quick switch to each one at any time with no reloads. The browser will reload occasionally depending what Page was being displayed but even that was playing nice. The available memory on my hox after doing all of this was 80 briefly at its lowest I saw before it killed some off and leveled off around 200ish. The SGSIII managed to keep 1.1gb ram free some how or another, maybe it cached them faster then the hox? I don't know. It's just weird cause it started at 1.1gb free before my test. This was with no app on screen at that time, but a buttload of apps saved in the cache. Just a kinda cool tidbit thought I'd share. Where's this 2gb hox! :D

(sorry for any spelling errors, it's late, I'm phone typing and to lazy to proof read atm)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] xtacee1990:
Different or not but w a ****TY screen it still doesnt matter. And yes I have seen a Samsung Plasticky s3 in real life and I am not impressed w the screen AT ALL. It's a big improvement from the screen on the s2 though.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] corythug:
Really man. I tried to make that post as mature and unbiased as I could to get a real discussion going and you give a fan boy, irrelevant (to my post at least, who knows what your responding too), immature post.

I agree with the posters above me, close this bad boy ASAP.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
So you'd take a MacBook Retina with 1GB of RAM over a MacBook with high resolution but not retina with 2GB?

If so then that's fine because that's what you're essentially doing. I'll always choose RAM
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] JasonJoel:
Completely agree, compared to the current crop of LCD/LCD2 hd screens the Samsung one looks like balls.

I was seriously considering getting one until I saw it first hand. Same reason I couldn't bring myself to get a Galaxy Nexus...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] MyronJ906:
Yeah, I can definitely say that I think the One X looks and feels MUCH better. But kernel source before the phone is released vs kernel source with as many delays as we can manage and it became a tough competition for me.

The One X is more or less perfection. Sure an extra gig of ram would help, but right now HTC is the issue and not the phone itself
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tx3kgtman:
Neither phone is "more or less perfect". Come on no removable battery and no sd card. Poor main speaker. ****ty multitasking. That has perfect written all over it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
I'm pretty sure I've said it in this thread but if I didn't....IF they came out with a OneX tomorrow with 2GB of RAM and NOTHING ELSE DIFFERENT. I'd sell my GS3 and get that OneX w/2GB RAM instantly. That simple. Until then, GS3 it is :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] MyronJ906:
Haha, sorry. I thanked you because you're right. It is indeed a matter of to each his own.

I eventually realized that no removable battery didn't matter to me. I thought it did, but when I was using the One X it didn't. On previous phones, I was battery pulling almost daily (I know, that's because of instability other than the removable battery).

I would rather carry an extra charger than carry an extra battery personally.

No SD card? Yeah, that's a downside, even to me. It just pushed me to get a little more cloud storage. Wasn't a deal breaker for me though.

I very rarely use the main speaker, so I never noticed. Haha, either way it's better than the speaker on my laptop.

Multitasking? The second it takes to reload an app wasn't killing anyone. It IS an issue when it causes lost form data, no denying it there.

I played with the One X and S3 side by side yesterday. For apps that both of them had in cache, the One X consistently launched them and had them ready more quickly. However, the S3 could hold more in memory to begin with. That's just another trade.

As a Galaxy S3 owner now (significant other is still on the One X so I can have both to toy with), I was more impressed by the One X. The device itself felt more high-end and impressive to me. It didn't seem like a toy. Obviously, there are more perks to the S3 but it's all a question of what will you sacrifice?

I only swapped because I'm impatient and refuse to wait for HTC's kernel source when another manufacturer offers a very similar product, for a similar price, WITH the source available. Voting with the wallet. Maybe they'll eventually get the clue.

Where do I sit? Right here:

That's almost the nail on the head right there. The extra ram just helps a lot. However, my actual deal breaker was the source code. Sorry HTC, but since I was within my 30 days still I simply wasn't going to wait.

Hardware benefits (SD Slot, 2GB Ram, etc.) + source code ends up being the better deal long run.

I just don't think the GS3 feels as premium as the One X despite having a few hardware benefits. HTC made a WONDERFUL cheese pizza. The best I have personally tasted. I just still wanted a bit of pepperoni.

Keep in mind, regardless of which phone I use I'm going to be running an AOSP based ROM, so the hardware (and compatibility *ahem*KERNEL SOURCE*ahem*) becomes all that really matters.

Sorry for adding more comparison to the thread, but I'm hoping I did it in a way that at least seems objective.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Simba501:
Multitasking would still be the same.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tx3kgtman:
More or less your opinions are the same as mine. I had the one x before switching to my s3 now. The one x is a very nice phone and it was a very hard decision to give it up.

My reason for choosing the s3 is the fact that I'm going to have the device until I get an upgrade again. The hox did have a better design and screen but that's where it ended. Both phones have very comparable battery life but the fact that I can have a extra battery in my wallet always just in case is great. The fact that I can throw in an sd card in case I ever fill up the internal storage of the device is also great. Right now the internal storage is plenty but 2 years is along time and a lot of apps, pictures, music, and videos away. The 2 gigs of ram just helps even more with the decision even though I may or may not use the majority of it now. There's no telling what I may use it on down the road. It to me is just a better, more all around phone for the money that will have greater limits compared to the hox.

And to end it off touchwiz has won me over. I looked down on it for so long but now that I've actually used it I love it. I still haven't rooted my phone and that's crazy for me. I'm a big time flashaholic but somehow I haven't had the urge to root and rom yet because there's not much I'm missing. Tw is as fast as any rom I've ever ran and has plenty of features to tide me over for now. I will definitely be rooting down the road but for now I'm content.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeartFan40:
Only warning I'm going to give...

If people can not stay on-topic, and refrain from bickering, I'm going to close the thread, and issue infractions to each offending member. Please refrain from bickering and going off-topic.

Thank You.

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"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"~Rush
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] apexitt:
2gigs of ram is better than 1.. I wish I had 2 gigs..lol. Why does everyone take this so personally? I just read some of the responses on this thread it's ridiculous. So what if you don't like the S3.. I don't either but this is about RAM;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nicemblem:
I don't think so, OneX has at least 200M RAM for free, and it supplies also a good performance
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
Nobody understands I give up. You realize that in order to keep 200MB of RAM free the OneX has to aggressively close apps right ? If it had more RAM it wouldn't have to do that at all.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PeartFan40:
There are far too many GS3 vs HOX threads, so to keep things tidy, I'm closing most them.

Thread Closed.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] seh6183:
I think the thread is valid and he clearly states that he owns both phones.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ChongoDroid:
Kill em all... let God sort em out

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Silellak:
The difference is, most of the issues people have with the One X are software-based, while most of the issues they have with the S3 are hardware-based.

Software-based issues can be fixed by crafty devs. Hardware-based issues can't. You sure as Hell aren't going to see a custom ROM that improves the S3's screen.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
I nominate gunny as forum chairman.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kirbo20:
Let's see more than 1GB of RAM being used and I will admit defeat :)

I love Samsung and I will probably get a GS III but not because it has 2GB of RAM I could never use. I've just always liked Samsung, I will still use my One X though.

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This is very True!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davezaff:
Nope, and just because it can allocate more memory does not make it any faster..... Read up on your hardware facts.

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] seh6183:
OP quick! Open 25 web pages and every app on the phone lol I too am curious to see if you can break the 1GB barrier! Lets do this!

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If one app is cached and one is not, the cached one wins. Please, this is a very simple concept. Not only is it faster, but it will be in the exact state you had it, rather than having to reload it from scratch. You have no argument, lets just move on please.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
I give up. This weird fan boy or allegiance to your current phone is childish. Both phones are great in their own way. For pure performance the SGS3 wins. Period. Debate all you want.

Here's another screenshot that shows how Android is using like 600MB of the spare 1GB of RAM to cache tons of apps. So the memory IS and always will be used no matter how much you have.

Sigh.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] davezaff:
Roll eyes........ Yes lets.

Sent from my HTC One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] gunnyman:
We have a forum called xda-general. This and all other comparo threads belong there imho.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] seh6183:
Try to break a gig though! Do everything you can man! This is for science!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
Why? I own a HOX and have posted here a bunch. Don't you think this is silly? Its a phone. I'm sharing my experience for people who might have a HOX and haven't tried a SGS3 yet.

Whatever.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] seh6183:
This is true. I also think the demeanor of the OP has a lot to do with it though, and as he has both devices and went out of his way in the first post to let us know he is not biased. I think this one is ok.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] rquinn19:
I have a One X (actually have two at the moment), I love the phone, but any One X owner that doesn't admit that multitasking on this phone sucks is lying to themselves or just isn't a power user. They probably close every windows on the PC desktop when they're done with it. Custom roms included, we still have multitasking issues. Yes it's better than 1.73, but still isn't up to par. Read the countless posts of people who are listening to music in the background and it just shut off. I jog and have My Tracks running just to find out when I'm done that the app closed half way through my run. That never happened to me on any of my android phones. Don't know if 2GB of ram is the answer or what, but Sense 4 is a resource hog, but I do like it and still use it. All the talk about once we get source is irrelevant until we do. Nobody knows when source will be released and as much as I switch phones chances are I'll have something else by the time it is. This is the technology industry. 3 months from now when source is released there will be something bigger and badder out there.

And these threads aren't useless. It's a simple debate over the pros and cons and someones thoughts while owning both phones. Had the thread been titled 2Gb of ram is useless I love my HOX nobody wouldn't complained. This is a message forum and this is exactly what they were made for. If you don't like the post, don't reply and bump it back up.

All that said in the mean time I will be keeping my HOX and liking it, but stop acting like the HOX doesn't have it's (memoey management) issues.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] seh6183:
Don't get offended its only gonna make things worse :)

---------- Post added at 02:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:14 PM ----------

First of all BAM! Couldn't have said that any better.

And man you have to ditch the sense, the multitasking is infiintely better without it. AOKP is awesome and will only get better when we get source and a proper kernel.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dkirchik:
I wouldn't go near the SGSIII for these reasons. Build quality not as good as the HOX. The screen is pentile, I don't like color production on em. The SGSIII has with some people already caught fire (knowing my luck itd happen to me). During drop tests the SGSIII after the screen is cracked it no longer worked (digitizer). Those are my reasons. My two cents.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
Yeah this is not about choosing the SGS3 over the HOX. Its that 2GB of RAM makes a huge difference, it doesn't matter what brand of phone it is or physically it looks like.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] seh6183:
This isn't a debate thread. Thank you for your input though. We are talking only about the benefits of having an extra gig of ram.

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Hey man can you please do that test for us to see if you can even load more than a gig worth of crap into the ram? :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] freakboy13:
Seriously....why do Samsung fanboys feel the need to come here and make threads like this...

WE

DON'T

GAS !

Some one close this thread, or move to gs3 forums or better yet as gunny said XDA general

sent from my hoXl

can't play my geetahr with out a geetahr string!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] seh6183:
IS YOUR IQ REALLY THAT LOW? How about YOU take a hike or actually read the thread!? Get lost
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jburkco:
So many forum police. Get over yourselves.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ethantarheels123:
ok. more ram does not improve fluidity and such in android since android already automatically clears and closes multitasked apps when ram is about to run out. unlike a computer, such as windows, the background applications and services that can be run at the same time is infinite, which is why ram is such an important aspect for computers. certain computer games, for example, alone require 2-3 gb of ram. On android, however, there are no such applications, and having 2 gb of ram on a phone just allows more room for apps to be multitasked, but not increase overall speed of phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] smokin1337:
My opinion the thread is ok here because its One X General and it relates to the one x. And i personally was wondering about the difference the ram would make. I am within my 30 day limit for my one x and want to see a s3 up close. The 2gb of ram is drawing me to it but i like this phone so i wanted to know if the ram can really make a big enough difference to switch. But i just want to "tinker" with it more or less and see what the development is gonna be like on it.

In the end everyone has their own opinion on devices i mean look at all the crapple fans out there and i think they are all retarded but they still buy the bs. So at least those guys arent over here making threads comparing crapple to android, lol.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
This is what I would do - go buy a GS3 with 2GB RAM. Load it up wit the same apps you use today and use it EXACTLY how you would use your HOX. Within a few minutes it will all become very clear what the extra memory does.

I love the folks on here that are going on what little they understand about memory management in the linux kernel (which is what Android is based on) than myself who has both devices and a comp sci degree. To each their own but I know what I'm talking about...

Good luck all.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] dkirchik:
To OP,

Can you in a dayish or so do a battery compare I'm wondering if the extra ram drains more power.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] seh6183:
And this is exactly what this thread has been about if you'd had read it you would know. Thank you for your infinite words of wisdom though.

Also if a phone is having all of its apps open faster because they remain in memory then this is in fact a performance increase.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Silellak:
FWIW, Anantech showed that the AT&T Galaxy S3's battery performs a bit worse than the One X's, but this may or may not be due to the extra RAM.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants/3
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] seh6183:
It wont/can't. That's like saying a 32gb phone drains more battery than a 16gb phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] patstock11:
Sheesh. *head shakes* ....isn't ram different then storage ? Even I know that
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
FYI - I think that's just the SAMOLED screen - it burns battery like a *****. Again, for the last time - I love the HOX but either it has to be seriously debloated (AOKP, CM9, custom kernel) or it just needs more memory.

1GB of RAM was enough a year ago but the apps that are out and all the Sense stuff that runs leaves no room.

I miss the HOX screen, build and buttons - the physical buttons on the SGS3 are not as good and I HATE the physical home button - pointless to me and takes some effort to push.

Both have same CPU/SOC which means same baseband/modem, wifi, etc. It's a system on a chip - the only difference is Samsung paired it with 2GB instead of 1GB. This is NO different than if you took your 2 year old laptop and upgraded the RAM from 2GB to 4GB. It worked perfectly fine before but it will run much better with more RAM.

Analogy is valid and applies here.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] seh6183:
Oh well then please explain to us what the differences are.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Silellak:
Yeah, it's quite possible. I was just quoting the stats I'd read.

It's a possibility that the One X's overly aggressive process management also improves battery life, but it's hard to say until we have custom kernels that remove that issue (or feature, I suppose, depending on your POV) entirely.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
I don't think this is an accurate statement. Since SAMOLED has no constant backlight like LCD does, it is supposed to have much lower power consumption. Makes sense to me, and that was one of Sammy's major bullet points for the benefits of SAMOLED displays.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] rquinn19:
:good: especially when you use back backgrounds
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] mobilehavoc:
I know when I was running Paul O'Brien's 1.88 vanilla ROM the multitasking was much better than stock partly because there was less crap to run so more free memory for apps to remain.

1GB should be more than enough if you're running AOKP or stock ICS. My Galaxy Nexus has 1GB of RAM and it regularly has 300MB+ free so multitasking is fine.

I'm not a heavy multitasker at all - rarely use it - but whenever i've tried to on the OneX (without custom ROM/minfree mods) it just has frustrated me to no end :(
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kleeman7:
More battery use in correlation to ram, might be that you can have much more running in the background which in turn could use more battery. That would be the only way more ram COULD consume more battery.