yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
if u have dropbox or gdrive, you can share the link, if ur on pc u can upload it here I think :)

EDIT: going to sleep now, can barely hold my eyes open. If u manage to upload it, im gonna try it tomorrow :) Thanks foxy
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
don't know if its the right one - but try:

File now removed.
[Galaxy S III General] Olywa123:
Gotta say, I did the upgrade from ZDFE02 to ZDFF02 this evening, took a couple of pics before and after under the same conditions and using auto settings but really seen no difference to me :(

Olywa
[Galaxy S III General] Electricview:
Wierd thing for me i updated with today's update and my

cam FW VER : ZDFE02

but Phone FW ver: ZDFF02

should they be the same?

I also have a friend who bought both my phone and his, (his was blue colored and was delayed he got it 2 weeks after my white) he says his Cam FW ver is: GDFD06

his phone is GDFE01 , i'm going to see him tomorrow I can see if there's much difference between ours... if those are the versions i want to compare?
[Galaxy S III General] NaimC:
I have the exact same issue. Can anyone else confirm or elaborate on this?
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
you guys need to reboot, in order for the changes to take place. If that's what you're asking.

In terms of changes, take pictures in low light and some day shots, like i did, and try to compare them :)
[Galaxy S III General] v1rtu4l:
my guess regarding the cam firmware and the phone firmware issue is, that the new firmware brings a new camera firmware with it.

since the OTA updates (and any other flashable updates) don't change the camera firmware, you just see the firmware that is flashed onto the camera (cam firmware) and the cam-firmware that comes with your current android firmware (thats phone firmware).

don't got the code right now, but you can use a code to go to the cam firmware menu and flash the phone firmware onto the camera, to update your cam firmware.
[Galaxy S III General] Daelyn:
At last somebody gets it!

The only interesting part has been Camera FW. Phone FW is the possibly updated Camera FW from your OTA/Full upgrade.

Could everyone plz check Phone FW and copy the file in firmware folder (name it with FW version)? Store it somewhere safe or upload it here.

I know there are people around having all kind of versions. If everybody just updates to latest FW we might lose the old FW versions. Btw it could be possible to downgrade.
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
we have no idea where its stored...
[Galaxy S III General] Nankov:
ZD gs3 vs my s2

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28402542&postcount=64
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
Seems like I'm correct in saying what I said before.

Colours are truer on the GS3 and much better.

Whereas the S2's seem washed out, and coincidentally, "brighter"

Raising the ISO on the GS3 should render the same results.
[Galaxy S III General] hefonthefjords:
Yes please, post firmwares. Copy out your /system/etc/firmware/ directory contents into a zip file and name it with the version number shown under the "phone" entry.

This way we can all try all the firmwares and know what we think is best rather than blindly relying on others' image testing them for us with their different camera modules.

Not all camera modules and lenses and eyes are equal.
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28389663&postcount=339

Should be GDFE01 in there.

But as I said....i don't know how this will help.

That's the only thing in fw folder
[Galaxy S III General] Daelyn:
/system/etc/firmware/

We can't be "sure" it is that one, but we can compare the files ppl upload and see if there's a difference.

So, upload your FW guys and name the file to current phone FW version.

EDIT: One thing to test would be replacing the "phone FW" with somebody else's FW file (of a different version), then reboot and check if Phone FW in Camera FW menu changed.
[Galaxy S III General] jody2k:
Hmm yes looking at the new results compared to the s2 the s3 has much richer colors and for details crisp its hard to say, can you take some outside pics and compare them?
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
as I said - I have done - its uploaded on my DB for you guys to download.

GDFE01.

But it's a .bin file...
[Galaxy S III General] sayut:
I'm really confused because I bought 2 unit S3 from same Samsung Authorized dealer shop... One unit with GD fw another unit with ZD fw ...Same shop,same time...
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
For all who think they could do anything with the bin file in etc/firmware read the op at the end! :)
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
cheers for the info -deleting it off my DB now

Remember though - that was 24th of june one...for some reason its something else.
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
yeah, this .bin file has another purpose for sure :))))

for some reason samsung might have disabled the Cam FW dump feature and manual CAm FW write. dunno :( I hope someone will find a solution one day :P
[Galaxy S III General] v1rtu4l:
i think we can savely say that the firmware dump is not stored in that folder.

i copied the file /etc/firmware/RS_M9MO.bin (the path /etc/firmware is the same like /system/etc/firmware) to my PC the change-date was old (25th of june) and then did a "dump cam fw to phone" and the file was still the same. no change of modification-date no change of size nothing.
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
we all knew this since the first several pages... :)
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
pic taken with night mode

fw ZDFF02.
[Galaxy S III General] Daelyn:
Damm. It was worth a shot. Didn't know it was already investigated.

Wonder where that firmware is stored. Anybody got a clue? Can't be in EFS partition or something?
[Galaxy S III General] tom369:
Guys if you don't have camera FW update available I think the easiest way to get camera update is to flash a new phone firmware with Odin (for example the newest for UK XXBLFB is checked by me), then do the camera update and after this if you want you can flash your previous phone firmware back with Odin. This worked for me.
[Galaxy S III General] obionenairobi:
How can I update to ZDFF02?
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
this look pretty good to me :) can u make one where it's darker without that many lights :)

I upgraded to FF02 but when I did a nandroid restore firmware was back to the old one. on my S2 firmware stayed the same no matter what!

this might mean only one thing that the firmware is not written on the camera module itself but somewhere in internal SD...I might be wrong ofc :)
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
HDR and macro mode.

https://photos-1.dropbox.com/i/o/89...17051992/1341784800/2f0b20d/aviary_high2.jpeg

https://photos-2.dropbox.com/i/o/7X...7051992/1341784800/466e77b/aviary_water5.jpeg
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
It doesnt look bad, but I guess u have to be pretty still not to take a blurry pic :P

I love the new effects, but Im gonna wait for HyperX update :)
[Galaxy S III General] Nankov:
Guys i did some test today outside with my GS3 and GS2 and most of the time the s2 won! wtf?? I am 100% sure the camera.apk on the s2 is modded as of the resurection rom. Now what i am wondering is.. does anyone have a stock s2? and a stock s3? and if you can post some day-outdoor comparisons. I will be uploading my tests later tonight and you guys tell me what you think.
[Galaxy S III General] nanoo-eg:
I tried the new firmware of the camera. I compared photos in the same place with the same light. I'm talking about pictures in low light room. There is a very small improvement in sharpness and noise.

No something special. General they aren't so far from one x.
[Galaxy S III General] yokken:
I want to update my AT&T phone to ZDFF02! :(
[Galaxy S III General] nanoo-eg:
After many tests, with the old and new firmware, things remain almost as before. The improvement if there is, is so small and very difficult to understand. I was owner of Sii, and now I have the Siii and One X. My opinion is: S3 camera is so far superior than the S2 at all the conditions.

Compared with the one x camera, Siii is better at all except HDR photos and generally at night photos with very low light. Difference isn't so big but there is.

At the Siii night photos without flash, you will have more noise but better sharpness.

With flash Siii is better at the light, noise and sharpness, but flash gives at the white colors a blue tint. You can fix that with any program edit photos.

We have a hardware subject and no way. Enjoy the perfect photos and videos at the day light. Indoor photos with nice light also no problem.

Low light: try to be near and use HDR or flash.
[Galaxy S III General] NaimC:
I think the can fw only updates if you're on a BTU version of the official fw. Mine defaulted to KOR first time and I didn't get the cam update till I changed it over to BTU.

Having done some minor testing, I do feel the ZFF02 fw has indeed improved things. Noise is down somewhat and sharpness increased. But I can't be certain till further testing.
[Galaxy S III General] Nankov:
Here are some of the pics:

GS3 GS2

GS3 GS2

GS3 GS2
[Galaxy S III General] obionenairobi:
So I updated my ROM to the latest UK ROM (see signature) and afterwards checked my phone FW

Currently it shows :

CAM FW ver ZDFE02

Phone FW ver ZDFF02

Shouldn't the CAM FW also be ZDFF02 ?

I rebooted at least twice but nothing changed
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
S3 looked better apart from balkon

Try doing it again, and then rebooting again...dunno might be a glitch
[Galaxy S III General] NiceCarpet:
I know this camera firmware menu can be accessed via the dialer, but is it part of the dialer or is it a separate APK that can be copied? My S3 is running MIUI so I don't have the dialer to access it, and I'd like to copy it over.
[Galaxy S III General] Daelyn:
Seems like it. I can't do it on my BlackStar ROM either. If I remember correctly, the dialer code opens a Samsung diagnostics app of some kind that I seem to be missing. Or, it's coded into the dialer itself.

---------- Post added at 11:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:15 AM ----------

Found this in the CyanogenMod thread:

Seems firmware could be stored in /data/cfw

I did this but my phone didn't output the same result. I did however do a "dmesg | grep s5c73m3" and got this:

<7>[ 825.788496] c0 s5c73m3_get_sensor_fw_version: Sensor_version = GDFD06, Sensor_Type = CML0801-M017
<7>[ 825.793037] c0 s5c73m3_get_af_cal_version: Cal_Device = 0xb6776773, Cal_DLL = 0xa2306a86
<7>[ 825.793273] c0 s5c73m3_get_phone_fw_version: Phone_version = GDFE01(index=2)
<7>[ 825.793312] c0 s5c73m3_check_fw_date: Sensor_date = FD06, Phone_date = FE01
<7>[ 825.795170] c0 s5c73m3_check_fw: Loading From PhoneFW......

I still do wonder where that darn FW is located :/

On another note, because I can't get the firmware menu up I checked jpeg details of a photo I snapped and it said GDFE01 on that one. Therefore I suspect it uses the latest firmware. If PhoneFW is newer, it loads that instead. Could be why we can't see a difference in some photos.

EDIT4: Found the firmware in the source from Samsung.

Located in Kernel source called SlimISP_GD.bin.ihex and SlimISP_ZD.bin.ihex

So, the firmware is in the kernel. There's an option according to source to have it in /lib/firmware if I read correctly.

Also, it seems it's structured to load the latest firmware to memory when camera is accessed, so if the phone firmware is newer, it will use that instead of camera fw.
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
Galaxy s2 has more details and sharpness

But S3 has colors close to reality.
[Galaxy S III General] NaimC:
Is it on BTU?
[Galaxy S III General] speedyjay:
I don't know where this bull**** has come from....the cameras on both the s3 and s2 are the same!!!
[Galaxy S III General] hellaflush:
First thing I did with my I9300 was turn auto contrast off... low lighting picture noise is heavy with contrast on... when taking night time pics with a camera phone at the end of the day, no amount of contrast is going to artificially improve what little light is already captured in the photo!
[Galaxy S III General] Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast:
SGS II has BSI sensor....
[Galaxy S III General] Minoza:
Usually 3 values control overall image quality.

ISO

Basically, in order to have less noise you need lower ISO, ISO is digital gain and it will introduce noise at higher levels. You can cosnider 600 to be high, better DSLRs will reach 1250-1600 with no problems but for S3 camera, that is way too much...

Shutter speed

The slower the shutter speed, the more light will come on sensor. Anyhow, with lower shutter speed you will also get more motion blur. That's where image stabilization comes into play, unfortunately, IS in S3 is software IS, it can't compete to the real in-camera/in-lens IS, thus resulting in fu*ked up image quality when using it.

Aperture size

Lower aperture means more light comes in plus lots of DOF blur and bokeh...

I'm not taking image compression into account here, and since aperture size is constant on S3 and you have no manual control over shutter speed that leaves us only with ISO... Keep it as low as possible, disable stabilization and keep your hands steady when doing night shots. :good:
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
I think I was right about what's going on here, check the two modules:

http://rounded.com/samsung-i9300-ga...ack-rear-8-mp-camera-spare-part-k2508609.html

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flex-Cabl...776853?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20c7302d95

same thing like on S2, the one Ebay I guess it's a Samsung module and the other one might be a Sony one...guess which one takes better pictures :(

at least this time there are no stuttering issues :X
[Galaxy S III General] sohebq:
i had an annual function in my office today, all ruined bcz of the ugly, noisy, blury pictures at night. Very disappointed with the night result, s2 was far better
[Galaxy S III General] n70shan:
my gs3 takes better pics in all situations. very little noise only at low lite
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
im happy that at least one of us is lucky :P

can u tell us your cam firmware version please :)
[Galaxy S III General] n70shan:
GDFE01
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
I'm starting to believe Samsung has done it again. They have sent phones with good Sony camera module (GDFE01 firmware) to the early reviewers and all the rest are crappy modules, with few exceptions, made by Samsung to cut the cost I guess...
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
clearly the only difference is the firmware - from D to E - so a small update would fix it, correct?
[Galaxy S III General] jody2k:
I also confirm that firmware gdfe01 is giving great pics
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
Quick goolge search comes with - it has been updated, just not globally:

http://gadget-mag.com/galaxy-s3-firmware-update-for-the-camera/
[Galaxy S III General] sxi200:
Checked mine. It's GDFE01. Pictures are noticeably better than my old S2 which took fantastic pics.
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
I'm I the only one on "D" !? 0.0
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
that's good news guys!

would you be able to dump the cam firmware so I can try it on my module? :fingers-crossed:thanks

They have been working on the camera then, that's good, but we need to make this thread a bit more popular so we know if there are many people with crappy camera modules :)
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
actually yeah that would be helpful - if we could get the update too, via someone here.

Then I can take several pics, in the same condition and tell you the differences :)

FYI:

I'm on LF6 - omega v6.0
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
I just wrote to someone on youtube that has the module with metal casing, so I hope soon we would know what firmware these modules have :)
[Galaxy S III General] sxi200:
How would I do that?
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
*#34971539# and them Cam to phone firmware dump (rear)

i did it on mine and the file should be in /etc/firmware/ folder, but it's not there, I have only one file I'm now trying to find where it dumped the firmware and will let you know

can anyone with GDFE01 also check on "ISP Ver Check" if it's CML0801-M017 :D
[Galaxy S III General] sxi200:
Yes just checked and have both of those.

Accidentally hit 'Phone to CAM FW Write (Rear) ' and it did some sort of fw update. Not exactly sure. Hopefully I haven't stuffed anything up.

Edit: after reboot the cam & phone firmware versions are GDFE01. Pretty sure one was different to the other before. ISP Ver Check is still the same: CML0801-M017.
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
The cam fw is your current version.

The phone fw is the update available.

Update your fw by clicking on phone to cam fw write
[Galaxy S III General] Daelyn:
Snap a photo, copy it to your PC and check the jpeg details of the photo.

Does it say ZDFE02 or ZDFF02? I suspect it loads the latest firmware and you don't actually have to flash it. Would explain some of the weirdness we have in the thread trying to compare photos.
[Galaxy S III General] obionenairobi:
This did the trick !

Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
Coming up in around 10mins: GDFF02 low-light camera RECORDING on 1080P -> Stock XXBLFB firmware

EDIT:

DONE:

[YOUTUBE]d_fli8zSXbU[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy S III General] mahbitty:
I just want 1 droid camera to blow away the iphone, cus as far as i am concerned, that's the main reason most wont make the jump
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
S2 and S3 both have better camera functionalities and look than the 4...

From the reviews I've read that is + the washed out look I see on 4 screen's.

If anything here we are comparing the best with the best (excluding the one X) lol
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
I have updated the OP with the info about the firmware and how to flash the new Cam FW. Thank you to everyone for their help and tips!!! :D
[Galaxy S III General] Dark_Lord0122:
there is a new firmware released today for me at least.. from GDFE to GDFF
[Galaxy S III General] Daelyn:
A simple test for a few of you guys:

If you got a "newer" PhoneFW than CameraFW, snap a photo and check jpeg photo details in some photo software on your PC. What FW version does it say? I suspect it will be matching PhoneFW.

Hence, we got a issue. People have done comparisons etc of pictures before and after flash of firmware which are invalid.

I've got GDFD06 Camera FW, but my pictures end up with GDFE01 in the JPEG tag because my kernel has GDFE01 (and ZDFE01) in it.

If anybody knows a kernel developer, ask them to check the Camera functions and if it's possible to compile kernel without Camera FW inside kernel. Have it separate (like modules). I also think it's possible to flash an older firmware to your camera, if you got a older kernel (which contains older fw). Somebody might be able to test this?
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
I dont know any developers :(

It is true that if you flash older firmware you get an older CAm FW as well :) I tried it yesterday :)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28415215&postcount=364

I have no idea why samsung chose this way, may be cuz it lead to less issues with the camera FW upgrades and it is easier to release updates as well :)
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
interesting!

And regarding the pictures....I checked and yup...both were GDFF02...but why would my phone check say otherwise?

and its funny how I said there was no difference between the two - at least none that I could tell:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28377172&postcount=314

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28379161&postcount=316

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28379526&postcount=317
[Galaxy S III General] Daelyn:
Phone will load is the latest firmware. If it's on the phone, so be it.

That way people flashing their phone with updates and OTAs will always have the latest version without going into the camera firmware menu. (Simpletons don't understand doing such things.)
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
It's just a question...+ was never said throughout the thread...
[Galaxy S III General] Daelyn:
Well, it that phrasing could be offensive. But what I meant by it is that Samsung, or we for that matter, can't expect common people that don't have much interest in their phones will find the service menu for the camera and flash the firmware. They wouldn't call Samsung and whine about camera quality, they wouldn't google it. They'd just live with it. This way, they will have the latest firmware whenever they do a OTA update for an example. (If the FW thing is a correct assumption of me, that is.)
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
understood, but "simpletons", ie. the general public - wouldn't ever care about it - if they didn't like it they would return the phone. But we persist in trying to find causes, and trying to fix things -> thus why we root, have custom roms and custom kernel.

Anyway for us lot, that do like playing with things - I just don't understand why it would say FW VERSION, and then the FW ON PHONE ->them being different, but yet, the pictures taken, before or after the flash have the same FW version in "details"
[Galaxy S III General] bernard134:
How to perform the camera firmware upgrade to ZDFF02? Using method on first thread doesn't work.

Current CAM FW ver.: ZDFE02

Current PHONE FW ver.: ZDFE02

Current firmware: XXBLFB

Current kernel: Siyah v1.3.6beta
[Galaxy S III General] ssaqib4e:
The kernel that u r using is outdated... what i mean to sayi is that.. the kernel that comes with the LFB firmware has the ZDFF02 firmware...

Bt as on siyah its still ZDFE02...

I THINK u can flash the stock kernel of LFB nd then go into settings as suggested in OP... nd update firmware from there to ZDFF02...

The camera firmware is located in the kernel as stated by OP... so its coz of the kernel u havnt got the update...
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
thanks I was just about to write the same thing :p
[Galaxy S III General] Pipperox:
A couple of high ISO shots (unfortunately I do not have an SGS II available for comparison):

- SGS III international

- stock samsung firmware

- camera firmware GDFD06

Nothing spectacular, noise is visible but image quality for me it's pretty decent, relatively good for what I would expect from a phone...

If I wanted better image quality, i'd whip out my DSLR.

Does anybody really consider this a discriminating factor between an SGS III and an iPhone?

I couldn't be happier with my SGS III, being using it for a couple of weeks and it's like a dream phone for me.
[Galaxy S III General] ssaqib4e:
Never mind :D the credits urs ;)
[Galaxy S III General] cmd512:
Anyone have the stock XXBLFB kernel handy?
[Galaxy S III General] bernard134:
Anyone have the stock kernel for XXBLFB be it CMW or Odin. Thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] Safe0716:
+1
[Galaxy S III General] NIK516:
Sorry but can som one please just answer me these questions because i read the updated op and am confused?

1. Is the full metal casing the sony sensor and if so is that the better sensor?

2. Is the fw directly related to the sensor their for if the module was changed it may not work?

Or. The fw is to blame for the high noise?

3. Has anyone yet swopped he samsung sensor for the sony sensor?

Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] mahendra1020:
read it somewhere for getting the stock kernels. follow the link below and click on 'K' link at the end agianst the firmware you want.

http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] NiceCarpet:
1. The plastic one is believed to be the Sony one, and the Sony one seems to be better so far.

2. It seems to be. Z##### for the Samsung one and G##### for the Sony. I don't see why you couldn't swap them out.

3. I don't think anyone in this thread has tried it.
[Galaxy S III General] Daelyn:
They gotta include both firmware files for every phone, because there's no way to tell before hand which module is in which phone. Firmware is in kernel.