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[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] TomONeill:
So what you're basically saying is that when I use Method 1, I can still update my A700? How do you know?

Can I make a nandroid backup when I only rooted my tab, so that when I want to unroot, I just flash my own nandroid backup? Or do I need to install Clockwork? How does that work?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] tube:
Now, as I understood, reflashing the bootloader that CWM backed up will result into an un-rooted device that is able to receive OTA updates. Am I right?

I wonder why my backup boot.img is 8MB while the boot-patched.img is only 3.9MB. Am I looking to the wrong file or ist the patched one just really good compressed?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] pawitp:
boot.img is the kernel not the bootloader, but yes, restoring it will allow you to install OTA assuming you did not modify other system files.

The backed up version is 8MB which is the partition size. The actual image is probably less than that, but CWM has no info on it and thus dumped the whole partition.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] andlommy:
The method above is not full root. Can't remount system.

Need patched bootloader.

There is one for a500, but haven't seen one for 700 or 701...

Without remount root is 50% useless.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] :
I fot full Root now with method 3.

First do a nandroid, unlock the bootloader and install cwm patch1 first ;)

Then apply the zip-file from method 3.

Reboot and Full Root with R/W :)
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] _WiNNa_:
I thought method 3 isn't working :confused:

I'm still trying to figure out which method to use, and now I have to choose 1 out of 3 methods... :rolleyes:
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] andlommy:
Depends on your bootloader version apparently.

None of 3 methods work 4 me :(

Need a patched bootloader :(
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] andlommy:
Update. Got root+rw remount to work.

The problem was a weird busybox version that mount references.

Can anybody give a quick reference on how to extract current firmware so i can share.

1.017 seems to be a rarity out there still...
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] RiceDie:
I think Im going to try as you suggest. Yesterday got another Iconia A701 in silver color this time. I unlocked the bootloader but cant ROOT it.. yett..
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] TomONeill:
How do you do a Nandroid backup without having CWM installed??

Edit:

I looked it up on the internet and you can't do that.

You can by using Clockwork and then after flashing back remove the root.

Can anyone confirm that the following commands in the Android Terminal work to UNroot our tablets?:

Source:

http://androidarea51.com/q-kernel-and-recovery-releases/nandroid-backup-before-rooting/
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] RiceDie:
Trying via Method 1

Installing CWM looks cumbersome and the fact that there are no CUSTOM Roms to flash (except CM for A700 but I dont have that one) I see no point! :eek:

Here is what I get VIA method 1 its still hanging here, device is rebooted and stuck at ACER logo. Unpluging the USB back and forth brings null results...

I ROOT'ed two A701's before.. although I used dif methods..
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] GenghisKhan67:
I just got my A700 yesterday, tried all three methods but only #2 worked, and only by typing in ADB commands manually.

I'm looking forward to more custom ROMs coming out, especially running Jellybean. I'm somewhat disappointed in the lack of dev interest for the Acer tablets, they have great potential and are currently selling at lower prices (I wanted to buy the Asus Transformer Infinity but didn't want to pay an extra $100).
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Moscow Desire:
Oh, RiceDie.. I suppose I'm going to see you slumming around in "this" forum also? :good:

As with the root, on my 701, I could use method 3, however, I had to goto the SU site and flash the binaries. Agree with what was said earlier, about BusyBox being messed up. As SU couldn't update the binaries by itself.

Of course I got the super brick with that crappy original CWM, so hope to get the tab back this coming week.

MD
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Moscow Desire:
Well, there's not a lack of development per say, just a lack of "Devs and Modders" because........

They all bricked their tabs getting all the initial issues worked out (so other people didn't), and some still waiting for them from the Service Center! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Hope to get mine back next week....

MD
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] tube:
So, I rooted my A700 using method #2. (Having stock FW AV043_A700_1.055.00_EMEA_DE).

It does work excellent - except HDMI out.

I am pretty HDMI worked well before rooting. After rooting I can see a picture on the external screen, but the touch screen is not working anymore. When I disconnect HDMI, the touchscreen does work instantly. Any ideas?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Moscow Desire:
I can remember my HDMI worked fine (701) as I played the monopoly game. Shortly before I bricked it with the original CWM.

Might just try a reboot.

MD
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] _WiNNa_:
I have the same FW running on my A700, and I also rooted it with method #2.

HDMI is running without a problem. The touchscreen is still running while the Tablet is connected to my TV.

Did you already restarted the A700?

Sometimes it behaves really strange, but for me a restart always fixed the problem...

Tapa tapa tapa from HTC Desire
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] RiceDie:
Will try #2 now! Update: Yes! Thanks my 3rd rooted A701

Hey MD! Oh cr@p! I hope I wont brick this A701!

I remember you bricking your A701 is it still in service from that time?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Moscow Desire:
I hope you don't also! I think the current CWM is ok, and the Super Brick bug is hopefully a thing of the past. (however, a couple guys this past week bricked their 510's, and they can't remeber which version of CWM they were using!!! Duhhhh)

If and when I ever get mine back, I'll finish the custom rom. Hopefully will get the rest of the issues with the OC kernel worked out (not that I think it needs it). Really can't do much of anything, as I have no tab to do testing, except my 501.

Yeah, mine is still in the local service center. I have no idea what the issue is.

Should have just been a mainboad change. Well, they did, installed the OS, the tab worked. But, when I picked it up, NO 3G! Would not even recognize Sim card as being installed. So it never left the shop.

Second mainboard ordered. Not sure what went up with that one, but whatever, they had to order another part. They should have recieved it last week. So I would HOPE, this week I get it back. Will have the wife call them....... again. It's been a week and a half since last call.

Regardless, it's past the 45 day mark in the service center, and according to Russian law, The Place I bought it from is obligated to replace it, or issues a refund. (should opt for a refund, as the tab is now 50$ cheaper than when I bought it).

Glad to see you in the forum! :good:

MD
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] RiceDie:
Hey MD! I didnt install CWM on any A701 yett! Will do once there are Roms to flash!

Im kinda disappointed with the lack of Roms therefore I tend to mess around with my HOX more.

I guess Im a flahaholic with OC UV favor :laugh:

Thanks for the worm welcoming!
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] tube:
Is JB rootable with the same methods (e.g. method #2)?

Can I go back to the original kernel after rooting while keeping root?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] benjieb:
Hi,

I have a stock A700 running the latest JB Rom.

Simple question, how do I root ? Is this thread still relevant, has there been new devs since, is JB specific in regards of unlocking/moded recovery/rooting ?

thanks
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] bschrib:
Hey all -- I'm trying to get some root on my new A700 but I have some questions (after doing lots of reading through the forms). Hopefully the community can help me out here?

1.) I see that so far the only methods of obtaining root involve unlocking the bootloader and then running some sort of root.img file. However I also noted in the bootloader unlock thread that you CANNOT relock the bootloader via typical "fastboot oem lock" command, so the only way to restore a locked bootloader is to flash a backup, or original firmware. Is this correct?

2.) CWM ~DOES NOT~ work for the A700, so far as I can read (at least not reliably..?), or more specifically you have to have specific bootloaders for it to be compatible. With this in mind, would it be possible to just "fastboot boot cwm.img" and make nandroid backups, without actually flashing the CWM recovery, or would that too risk bricking the device?

3.) Ultimately my goal is to download the OTA's that my device is getting during it's journey to the OTA JB 4.1.1, however since the /cache/ directory is locked I understand that I'll need root to accomplish this, so if I understand things right, the first thing I'll need to do is to unlock the bootloader (which I can't relock easily), then hopefully I can boot to cwm.img and make my nandroid backups, then I should obtain root via the provided root.img files in the root thread (method 2 is reported as working), does that sound right? Since ultimately my goal is to get updated to stock ~EVERYTHING~ JB 4.1.1, will I be able to revert these changes at the end of this process, or will one of the earlier steps prevent me from actually getting to 4.1.1?

Currently I've got a completely stock device with original 4.0.4 ICS on it (I had to order a replacement from Amazon, first one had a patch of dead pixels and something stuck between screen).

Android Version: 4.0.4

Kernel version: 2.6.39.4+

Image Version: Acer_AV043_A700_RV05RC02_PA_CUS1

Build number: Acer_AV043_A700_1.017.00_PA_CUS1

Image P/N: FM.S1MA0.00A

The reason that I want to get the OTA update files is so I can pull it apart and see if there's someway to get root in JB (MD indicates that we just patch the boot.img file, right?)

Sorry for the long post, just hoping to get some clarity on this before I jump in and start making changes that are irreversible.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Moscow Desire:
If you hold off for a couple days, will post a insecure boot.image, so you don't have to do all this stuff.

Simple unlock bootloader, Fastboot the new boot.image.

The above method, is outdated, and doesnt give true root/System RW access.

Already works great for 701. Just need to modify 700 boot.img

MD
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] bschrib:
Thank you so much MD, I really didn't want to go through all of that.. hahaha.. I'll just wait patiently. In the meantime (for myself and any other users who jumped on the lowered Amazon Price), should we stick around on ICS, or do you think bumping to JB would be OK?

Thanks again man.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Moscow Desire:
Well, I can't tell you what to do.

Is JB Better? Of course. I feel they somewhat fixed some things, Definately a lot smoother. Also, temp seems to be lower. Display a bit more responsive.

My advice before taking OTA. (I took mine immediately after going through wizard).

1. If you have installed any apps, like launchers, Task killers, etc, uninstall them).

2. If you activated that useless Anti-virus app included, kill it.

3. Try to get it as close to stock as possible.

Then do OTA.

MD
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] bidniss:
OK and thanks! I will wait also for you to "do it to it "! I am assuming we will fastboot and then run a command from adb? Thanks MD!
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] bidniss:
MD....any updates on this? I had already unlocked my bootloader and now just need root but I don't want to risk bricking by using ZeroNull if it is not safe..
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Moscow Desire:
Ok, Verboth has a insecure boot.image for the 700 in this dev forum. Should work fine for you. His process will use CWM to install Superuser and the binaries. I think CWM is safe as long as you don't go doing backups and restores. I have the insecure boot.img for the 701. I use a little different process (pushing binaries via adb).

So for the 700, chek his thread.

MD
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] meier2009:
is it possible to update the OP to the new situations like JB or CWM 6015 and so on!??! :):good:
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] jasmithjr70:
I need help. thanks

Hi I followed directions to method #2 in this post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1727105 and now my acer aconia a700 is locked on the boot screen with bootloader version jb-653b3d3 (unlock mode) in the upper left corner, I tried everything that I could find on this forum to help and failed at every thing. Even tried to update.zip on sd card to get it going and nothing happes with it.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ExtremeRyno:
This method is no longer working. I hate to say it, but if you had read through, you would have noticed this hasn't been updated to JB..That's all on you, bud.

Go to Vorbeth's EasyRoot 2.0 (the best and easiest way to gain root) and it will auto install root and CWM. You should be able to install EasyRoot if you're able to get to the bootloader. Couldn't hurt to try, at least.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1953917

Also, you might want to check out the HOW TO link from my signature. I put a lot of time into making the process bungle proof for newbs (like myself).
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] jasmithjr70:
Thanks, Ex. But I think I found the problem. I am getting a MTP USB Device This device cannot start. (Code 10). I have been searching the internet for a fix I have updated the drivers and still keep getting this error. Would you know how to fix this. Thanks.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ExtremeRyno:
I had that problem on WinXP, and if I recall, there is a hotfix that addresses the issue. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=19153 might be it...Not sure as I'm on my Win7 machine now. If you're on Win7, you might install that driver, anyhow. Not sure what good it will do, but I had to use it on XP.

I encountered that problem on Win7 after I flashed CM10, though. One of the reasons I went with iconiaN instead. I was never able to get around it until I switched to a different ROM.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] jasmithjr70:
I am running windows 7 ultimate 32-bit I downloaded that file but still no luck. I really appreciate all the help you have given me. I think if i can get passed this mtp error I can get my tablet back working.

Does any one else have a fix for the mtp error. Thanks, John
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] jasmithjr70:
Thanks for your help. I finally got it to work, this what I did. I plug the a700 into the laptop and I had it off then I started it in fastboot mode and then everything started to work and got it rooted. Thanks again and I also used the ezroot that you posted.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] l33ch0r:
So if I decide to buy the A700 (I already decided that, just haven't bought yet :D) would it be sufficient to unlock bootloader, execute the pretty simple first method in the first post and my device will be rooted. So would it then be enough to just install ROM Manager and through ROM Manager get CWM? All I want is root and the chance to flash custom roms.

And I wondered: this tablet seems to be out for about half a year now - isn't it that popular or is it just not so easy to build custom roms for it? Compared to Nexus 7, where there are tons of custom roms and easy one-click-tools for noobs like me, there's less going on in this forum...
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] s1r1:
Best way to root your a700 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1953917

first unlock bootloader follwing this method http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1710755
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] l33ch0r:
Thx. Got a question regarding the bootloader unlock. The same instruction was in a german forum and it frightened me :D

At the point where I'd have to push vol up and vol down the german instruction said that one needs to be fast and from that point on the device could get bricked.

Is there something to it? I mean, how fast would someone have to press the buttons? :D
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ExtremeRyno:
I've unlocked my tablet four different times (after returning to stock a couple times). It hasn't bricked me, yet.

You don't have to be super fast, but you can't just stare at the screen for ten seconds, either.

And please, follow s1r1's advice and use Vorbeth's EasyRoot after you have unlocked. The methods described in this post are for tablets running ICS, and they will brick a JB tablet.

Dear MODs: Is there any way to have this thread locked and the first post changed to reflect that this is only good for ICS? The Q&A section has a lot of people trying this and almost (and some succeeding) bricking their tablets.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] bobnweaving:
Ok did the fastboot oem unlock and worked. Tried the 1st method by running batch file and now stuck in bootloop, any help/advice?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Moscow Desire:
Are you on JB or ICS? (check your bootloader version when you start the tablet)

If you are on JB, the OP has BIG RED WARNING that these steps are for ICS ONLY.

MD
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] bobnweaving:
Sorry, didn't see last night, got it fixed, got into fast boot again and manually flashed the rooted img file.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Gman91:
I know rooting is the way to go, but I prefer not too. I am new to modding and what not so bare with me. The Galaxy S 2 I believe has the blue status bar icons (clock/signal/(4g or 3g) can you make the Amaze's status bar similar without rooting? Like a skin or something.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Dark Nightmare:
I don't think so, since you'll have to mod the framework-res and the systemui which both will need root to be push back into the system.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Gman91:
Answered my question, thank you.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] livpalm:
I have not rooted my EVO LTE yet. But I installed ADW EX for now and can't stand the menu button on the bottom. It takes up too much space.

I'm not a Sense fan and was hoping version 4.0 was better, but but after a couple of days I still prefer pure Android. Unfortunately I can't figure out why HTC and others are adding permanent home, and back and recent buttons when ICS looks better without them.

Even when I root and install CM9, for example, I'll have a huge menu button that takes up too much space.

Anyone see what I'm talking about?

What can we do about it?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Poetik:
Man I installed go launcher and I'm wondering the same exact thing. I upgraded to this phone to have a bigger screen than my s2 and I can't even do that without sense..

Does anyone know how to get rid of that menu vertical ... at the bottom?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] livpalm:
I think an option is to use Apex or Holo launcher. They seem to be better suited for ics. Just saw a video review of it here http://goo.gl/cykps
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] erikivy:
Another option is Nova Launcher. It is a true ICS launcher that is really slick and and does away with the three dot menu.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] shook187:
There is a mod that could be flash to remove menu bar and remaps it. Have you guys tried it?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Wakawaka024:
If you flash cm9 they remapped the buttons that crap is gone, it's running way better than sense also. Just a few minor issues.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] livpalm:
But is there an official CM9 out for the evo? One thing I'm not liking is the 1gb ram and sense. Sense is still too heavy for 1 gb ram. Sometimes it takes 15-20 seconds to load the sense launcher.

I bought apex pro. Better, but when I jump to different apps then hit the home button, sometimes it takes a few seconds to load the launcher.

That just tells me memory is running out somewhere (sense).
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
OP, just to clarify, when you unlock and run CM9 , you WON'T have the big long menu bar. Even on sense, if you're rooted you can get rid of it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] waterbound:
+1 on Nova.

Running Fresh 1.0 with Nova launcher, no lag but never really had any of the Sense 4.0 reload issues that some talked about anyway. Figured it was just the GS3 people trying to troll but maybe a bad batch of cells went out too..

Anyway, NOVA is sick! Setup the way you want, gives you better visual then GO etc (IMO) and great on footprint (memory). Works very well and as the other user stated, its native to ICS anyway. Give it a shot, blows the doors off anything else I tried and no lag anywhere..

Fresh is great too IMO, there are some great multitasking tips using the ROM toolbox, adjusting heaps etc..works well also,
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] livpalm:
What you say would be a solution for my discontent. I'm going to root soon and will remove some of the sense bloatware, but removing the menu also interests me. Regarding CM9 once it's officially supported ill be on board.

I bought apex and almost bought nova instead. They both look interesting.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jgalan14:
Just to let you know the menu button on the bottom shows because those apps having been optimized to ICS, yes after 7-8 months and developers still doing the same, thats the reason you dont see any system apps doing that, cause their optimize, I wish developers would tho
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Oatswesow:
So it's just a matter of time before more apps are optimized? It is very annoying...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tmuka:
tried nova launcher today it's great!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jgalan14:
Yup
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] livpalm:
Another option I wouldn't mind would be to hack the recent apps button to make it think it's the menu button. I'm used to long pressing the home button anyways. I think the Sgs3 is like that.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jadoe05:
You should look around in the development section. Both issues you mentioned already have fixes.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] livpalm:
Will do just that. Thx
[LG Revolution] smitty_52:
I am wondering if anyone is having issues with any FB apps while running BO. Up until yesterday when I rooted my phone again I was using Friendcaster but now I can't access it via the app or even through my browser/dolphin. Is anyone having similar issues? The FB for Android app sucks since their updates so I don't use that one anymore.
[LG Revolution] I.M.famous XMAN:
there are many with fb issues.

Here is one that involves wifi.

I still can't connect on wifi with any fb type app
[LG Revolution] capt730:
Fb is hit or miss for me.
[LG Revolution] literocola42:
I've come to the conclusion that FB only works on a 4g connection. It isn't a connection speed issue since wifi doesn't work. A poster in another thread says it also works when they're down to a 1x connection.
[LG Revolution] Mannn121:
I found that if I am really close to my router then I could get on Facebook. Otherwise I have to go to 3g. it's pretty weird.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] BROKKANIC:
Cookies for the effort.

Already common knowledge for forcing OTA updates, at least to anyone that actually takes the time to read/search the forums.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] j510:
Except its not ota......

Nice trick by the way op
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nawhdee:
Thanks for the trick. One question - how long did it take for you (or for anyone else who decided to use this method)? It's been stuck at the 90% value for about 2 hours for me, and I'm beginning to get a little worried, since these things don't normally take so long (according to friends I've asked, anyhoo). Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jack man:
Are you talking about 90% fnished downloading/extracting? or 90% putting it on the phone (with the green bar going across the phone)?

If it hasn't started putting it on the phone yet you should be fine to unplug it and start over. If you remove cable while it's actually putting in on the phone, you will have problems. not sure which kind though. maybe just a soft brick. you should be able to get back to download mode though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nawhdee:
I apologize for not being specific - 90% putting it on the phone, I presume, since that green bar you mentioned is there (with the "Downloading..." underscored with a "Do not turn off target !!").

Assuming this is beyond the norm, do you think I have no choice but to risk the soft brick?

EDIT: Oops, it's actually a blue bar. My bad. So it's safe to disengage then?