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[Galaxy S III General] SlimJ87D:
No... it's fine on the HTC One X. It's the laws of physics.

The SGS3 is very light to almost no weight in the back and all the weight is in the front. It's going to fall where it's heaviest, not on its corners like other phones that have a equally distributed amount of weight in the volume.

laws of physics people!
[Galaxy S III General] Wond3r:
Makes sense. Most phones with the original gorilla glass will crack if its dropped face down too
[Galaxy S III General] esist:
Definitely agree with OP.

A phone is portable. It goes in and out of your pocket, gets picked up and put down dozens of times a day for hundreds of days on end. To think that it won't ever be dropped is unreasonable.

It being cracked by landing face down on a hard uneven surface (concrete, for example) is one thing: a small bump in the surface will cause the entire pressure of impact to be absorbed by that one point, so it is sort of unavoidable that a phone might be damaged that way. But for it be damaged simply by the shock of the impact from a small height, as seems to be the case here, is not acceptable.

However, I don't know if I'd agree with the presumption that its not as sturdy as the first two based on OP's experience alone. The issue didn't arise immediately upon falling, and it doesn't relate to exterior damage directly. Sounds more like a defective unit.

It could even be a coincidence. It didn't start just after it was dropped and they could be completely unrelated.

Why are people talking about GG2? The glass didn't break unless I'm looking at the pictures wrong.
[Galaxy S III General] LowSky:
Think of it this way, if you parked your car and accidentally left it in neutral and it hits a wall going like 5 miles an hour and you car gets a ding are you going to complain to the car manufacturer, no of course not. It simple protect your stuff. Put a case on the phone and get insurance.
[Galaxy S III General] TSport-:
That's a weird analogy. Car manufacturers do all they can to protect the passengers. I don't think OP was talking about damages to the body of the phone, but the screen, ie internals.

I've seen many drop tests performed by manufacturers of remote controls, watches, and lots of other electronics that is expected to be dropped at some point.

That said, a case is a wise investment and I have one on mine but to some it ruins the whole design / feeling of the device. And not to mention how slippery it is..
[Galaxy S III General] Tachikoma_kun:
It's a perfectly valid analogy, a car manufacturer shouldn't be held accountable for damage caused by a collision. Just as Samsung shouldn't be held accountable for someone breaking their phone by dropping it, I certainly know if I dropped my S3 and the screen shattered I wouldn't blame anyone but myself.

You can only make something stress/impace resistant to a point before the physical aspect changes more than what you deem acceptable. The rugged phone I linked to early on in the thread was an example of that, you had a pretty basic looking phone that was easily twice as bulky as something like a Nokia 3210. If Samsung made this phone totally impact resistant it would be huge, and ugly, and nobody would buy it. They would rather produce a good looking device that was as resilient as the competition than pander to the few people that complain that it's someone elses fault that they dropped their phone and broke it.
[Galaxy S III General] TSport-:
I can agree that it's the owners fault if the phone is physically damaged. The question is perhaps whether phones should be manufactured the way the are if they don't cope with normal usage. After all, dropping a phone is to be expected regardless of how carefull you are. Sooner or later it may happen and personally I feel that it takes away some joy of using it if you're constantly nervous about damaging it. Especially if you have kids in the house.. which is not uncommon.

I don't think many would complain if S3 was 2mm thicker but could take a beating.
[Galaxy S III General] adslee:
This is a terrible analogy. Have you even seen his screen? The majority of the phone's interface is defective now because all you see are shades of blue. If his touch screen still works, great, too bad the functionality of the phone has been gimped so hard that I probably wouldn't even use it as a main driver. A ding on the car has limited effects (if any) on its main functionality. I'd still drive a car with a ding on the bumpers or the sides, but using a phone that only shows blue on its screen?

I can't believe how many people are bashing the OP on how he doesn't take care of his electronics. Even the best of us drop our phones from time to time, especially if it's a device that is used so often throughout the day. There's no doubt that the GS2 is much more drop-resistant (youtube video drop tests back this up) but I'm so disappointed in the fragility of this high end device. A waist-high drop should not yield this kind of damage.

And it's also much easier to drop a phone by accident than to leave a car parked in neutral. Whatever you're smoking, give me some because it really seems like good stuff from here.
[Galaxy S III General] Tachikoma_kun:
I agree, but with a screen this size it would almost certainly take more than 2mm to offer any more protection than just putting it in a case.
[Galaxy S III General] speedyjay:
Well said mate! Moral of the story - take better care of your phone and wipe the butter off your fingers lol
[Galaxy S III General] Meltus:
you must have been VERY unlucky. I've dropped mine a few times but it took a big drop yesterday; I dropped it whilst in a call (so a fall of nearly 6ft) onto concrete, it bounced into a rather large puddle and then I just picked it up and carried on with the call. I was left with a tiny scuff mark on the back cover and that's it.

It all depends on how it lands.
[Galaxy S III General] jubberfish:
1st post.

I think the car analogy is perfectly decent. If I had an accident at low speed and my car was slightly damaged I would sure as heck accept the responsibility. However if I had an accident at low speed and my windscreen cracked and the engine failed to start, I would quite rightly have a grievance with the manufacturer. Cars are not meant to be in accidents any more than a phone is, but to come away from one with unreasonable damage is an issue for the manufacturer.

I was compelled to post here after years of silence purely for the smug self righteousness of some of the people posting in here.

btw I have a case and insurance. 1 drop while in the case so far.
[Galaxy S III General] hefonthefjords:
The car analogy doesnt work. For it to work the car would have to bump the wall at five miles an hour and be completely annihilated.
[Galaxy S III General] NaimC:
It's annoying listening to some of you rag on like durability isn't an important thing. Stop being stupid fan boys and consumers. No emreasin we can't have amazing phones, specs and durability. I'm personally disappointed the durability is worse than compared to its previous releases. One of the galaxy traits was always its sturdiness drop after drop.

Still love mine but disappointed its not as well built as past incarnations.
[Galaxy S III General] paintball23456:
THIS is only yours look on youtube for drop test :)
[Galaxy S III General] Andrewtst:
This statement is wrong. My country release white before blue and most facing problem is blur color especially power and menu button loose issue.

I am lucky I get white where no such issue happened.
[Galaxy S III General] Tachikoma_kun:
No, there's no reason we can't have an indestructible phone, problem is nobody would pay what it would cost to develop, manufacture and sell. Also the fact there are barely any strides in this other than in places like the construction industry show there's little demand for it, as most reasonable people know their slim, shiny phone isn't made out of adamantium and bullet-proof glass.

Those of us saying it's unreasonable to expect a phone to fall 3-6 feet onto a hard surface and expect it to survive 100% of the time aren't fanboys, just realistic. People can post all the video's of people throwing phones on the floor that they want, that doesn't mean every model of that particular phone is going to react the same.
[Galaxy S III General] Wond3r:
No. The screen can be fixed for a fraction of the cost of buying a new phone. Same as a bumper for a car.

I hope nobody thinks manufacturers WANT to make products indestructible.
[Galaxy S III General] As2O:
thats unlucky man, i smashed my s2 about a month ago and it costed $200 to fix and the s3 costs about $300 to fix. its almost half the price of the phone...

these samsung lcd screens cost alot to repair compared to iphones ($100 for repairs )

i hope i dont drop or smash my s3 :p
[Galaxy S III General] pähkinä:
And that's because half of the phone is connected to the screen.

I really don't expect my phone to survive from drop. That's not normal use, dropping the phone I mean. And if it did survive the drop, then how many drops should it take until it gets broken, or from what height?

Just face it: You drop your phone and it gets broken, you're unlucky. But if it survives the drop, then you can consider yourself lucky. Many here have dropped their phones many times already and still this phone is to fragile? Don't be stupid.
[Galaxy S III General] the2rrell:
A flippin screen with bumper is 349 dollars........you would to better by doing what i did, get a Squaretrade warranty on it NOW.....and in 2 months if something were to "HAPPEN" ;) they will send you a new phone or the replacement cost of the phone.

i have dropped mine 6-7 times lucky me, No screen damage....but the edges of my phone look like i dragged it behind my car. so i plan on using it for another month and just letting something "HAPPEN" to it and getting another one.

its what insurance is for.
[Galaxy S III General] pähkinä:
And if the s3 should stand a few drops, then what should the xcover stand? A nuclear war? The xcover is made for people with clumsy fingers, the s3 is not.
[Galaxy S III General] esist:
No its not. That's not comparing like for like. A car accident isn't the same, because its not correct to assume every car will be in an accident. A huge number of phones will endure falls.

Not every fall is reasonable to expect it to survive. But one from pocket height (as the OP says his was) I don't think is unreasonable. Also, all drop tests have show that when the phone does reach its limit, it shatters or it doesn't. It doesn't wait a few hours and then go blue. I'd at least want an explanation as to what the hell happened to it.

Phone manufacturers do build phones to withstand everyday wear and tear which isn't their doing, because making sure it survives normal real-world use is still their responsibility. This is why they are constantly using new types of reinforced glass.

I'm not saying the OP's fall was definitely a reasonable one for it to expect to survive (depends on what it fell onto etc.). But lots of posts are attacking him on the basis that any kind of fall at all is something he should expect to break it.
[Galaxy S III General] nycadillac:
I've had a Case-Mate Toughcase on my Vibrant for the past two years and have dropped that thing more times than I care to remember. Never had a problem, only thing is the outer hard plastic shell finally started cracking. I'm using the same thing on my S3 and wouldn't even think about going naked with this thing.. accidents happen.

Did I mention I also bought a 2yr squaretrade warranty for $95? lol
[Galaxy S III General] esist:
I have a case on mine too. A rubber transparent one. Really cheap. But the most important thing is the rubber would absorb the impact of an accidental drop. It also extends several millimetres over the the face of the phone so the glass would also be saved from impacting with all but the most uneven of surfaces.

Even for waterproof phones (the few that there are), not many people throw them in a bath of water. Its supposed to survive it, but I don't want to tempt fate.
[Galaxy S III General] pähkinä:
So from what kind of drops should it survive then? I think it's pretty clear that this phone doesn't crack from every single drop, but from some it does, just like any other phone. So what are we complaining about? Yes, it might brake easier then many other phones, but it still can take some of the drops.

People are comparing this to s2. You haven't ever heard of a s2 that broke after a drop?

Edit: and if phones are supposed to survive from "everyday use", then why is there cases and screen protectors for sale and why do we even buy them?
[Galaxy S III General] esist:
Exactly. The phone isn't supposed to break from any single drop.

Just like my original Galaxy S wasn't supposed to stop 3G service randomly until it was rebooted. But some models are defective. My point is, the fact that it didn't shatter, but instead just went all blue hours later, sounds like it could be defective. Not definitely, but its a possibility.
[Galaxy S III General] pähkinä:
Yes, it could be (which would make this thread even more pointless), but I highly doubt it. I think that something went loose after the drop and then totally came off later, or then it's just coincidence.

It's just that phones these days, with their slim casing and huge screens, can't take same kind of damage as they could ten years ago. And I think you can't expect them to. It might be the first drop that destroys your phone, or it could be the eleventh drop. It depends how lucky you are. I destroyed my Nokia 3210 on the first drop from pocket level. I still didn't blame Nokia for it, as I didn't, even back then, expect the phone to survive from a drop like that...
[Galaxy S III General] NatTheCat:
Can't wait for the new iPhone, let's see what's more durable.
[Galaxy S III General] laneyofdeath:
I dropped mine last night from my pocket on concrete floor it landed right on top right corner near power button. Considering the thud it only got two little dents. Pretty lucky really can't imagine I'd still have a screen in one piece had it landed face down
[Galaxy S III General] paintball23456:
are you******* MENTAL o_O that is the biggest POS EVER!the galaxy s3 will obviously ass rape that crap:Dtake my word;)
[Galaxy S III General] NaimC:
Both the S1 and S2 could survive countless drops. Why not the S3? No fan should be content with regression.
[Galaxy S III General] ankurrohit:
In india, the blue versiin arrived later. Though yes most of the accident cases are being quoted for the white ones
[Galaxy S III General] Zanr Zij:
My S3 still perfect when I got small motobike accident. My S3 with Nikkin case drop far from me, only cracked my screen protector.

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] ankurrohit:
@zanjr - what do you mean by screen protector crack? Screen protectors are usually thin films which can get scratched but how come cracked??
[Galaxy S III General] 20blks:
Just dropped mine on the bathroom floor (marble tiles). Didn't have the case on due to me changing screen protectors. NO DAMAGE!!!!!!
[Galaxy S III General] sparkie6point0:
Josh, things happen with phones all the time. I've owned quite a few phones over the years and sometimes they get dropped or fall off tables or just get shoved in and out of pockets, purses, etc. It's just a fact of life with cell phones.

I'll be getting an S3 this weekend and will definitely try and find a decent commuter case for it. In the reviews I read for the S3 I read that it wasn't supposed to be that fragile. Guess the truth holds otherwise.

Sent on a T-Mo Blaze from the house halfway up the next block using xda premium
[Galaxy S III General] BobFL:
Imho, money spent doesn't define purpose. One can either buy Ferrari or armored S class. It is expensive because it is a technological piece of art not because it meets milspecs.
[Galaxy S III General] zondakaka:
Latest update is i got a new phone, bec they didnt have a new screen to replace it. Apparently i didnt had to argue a bit.

I believe my phone was extra fragile.

Thanks samsunggg ... but now plzz recommend me nice casess
[Galaxy S III General] megagodx:
This phone is a lot more fragile than the Galaxy S II. I dropped my GS2 quite a few times, yet the screen remains unscathed in any way. This Gorilla Glass 2 is not nearly as durable as advertised. It almost feels like a step down from the first Gorilla Glass. Hopefully they correct these issues with Willow Glass.
[Galaxy S III General] Joshnz:
I know things happen all the time, but people need to realize such large objects with this amount of glass will break if dropped.

They don't advertise the phone as drop proof for god sake.
[Galaxy S III General] xformulax:
the problem with harder materials is that they become more brittle.... the harder the glass becomes for scratch resistance, the more brittle it will become and it will be more prone to shatter when dropped.

if they drop proofed some phones the glass would be much more flexible (like willow glass), but that would also mean it would be more prone to scratches.

basic laws of physics really... sometimes new components and compounds try to defy that, but either way it's a give and take type of scenario, and personally i run a screen protector anyway, so i'd much rather have a shatter proof screen than a scratch proof.... a phone is also much more functional with a scratched screen vs. a shattered one.
[Galaxy S III General] SmartHat:
So I'm guessing I'll never be able to do something like this with the SIII? :O

that's just disappointing
[Galaxy S III General] NIK516:
Wow i wouldnt post a thread on xda if you want to send it back for warranty . But yeh sometimes your unlucky, ive droped my nexus so many times and nothing. Its naked
[Galaxy S III General] d4fseeker:
Try it out and report back ;)

Disclamer: I won't buy you a new display unit

My S1 even fell once on a very pointy rock which bore a straight hole through the screen protector. The screen itself was completely unscathered.

Wouldn't want to repeat it with the S3 =)
[Galaxy S III General] Nick14:
I wouldnt call S3 fragial ;) I dropped my phone from my pocket ( had a hole) and kicked it 4 flights of stairs into a wall and the only thing it got was scratches at the bottom :)
[Galaxy S III General] electric0ant:
glad you managed to get it replaced, from the looks of it it didn't look like obvious physical damage since there was no cracks so that's probably why you managed to get away with it.

But seriously can't people just take better care of their phones? it's expensive and you know they are fragile to some extent, so if you drop it, it can break.
[Galaxy S III General] zanywood:
I've dropped my amaze 100 times and only back case has any noticeable damage.
[Galaxy S III General] dante501:
Well a phone is not made to be dropped. Is as simple as that. Never had any issues since I take care of my stuff and don't drop it. If you can't hold on to it that is your damn fault.
[Galaxy S III General] Mike Blitz:
It's a phone with a huge glass screen, of course it's gonna break.

Anything will break in relation to the distance and force and object it collides with, price doesn't equal sturdiness.

I use no case or scree protector but make sure it's always in a pocket it can't fall out of or in a place I can't knock it off.
[Galaxy S III General] zondakaka:
Samsung replaced it for free. SUCK U ALLLLL who said i shud be more carefulll
[Galaxy S III General] Matt3333:
People who sit here and say 'get insurance' or 'just take more care or it' should be shot on the spot for such stupidity. Be different if you literally smashed it as hard as you could, then wondered why it broke.. DUH. But the S3 is definately more fragile than the S2. My S3 deceided to flicker whenever it feels like it. It's been treated quite nicely. Not a scratch, dent, nothing on it. Screen protector & hard plastic case. Called Samsung and it's been sent off to be repaired. 1-2 weeks until it's sorted. Shît happens. Better man up when it comes back aswell. Had my S2 since it came out, that thing just plowed through everything.
[Galaxy S III General] irish-sid:
"First drop from your pocket" op? That implies you will be dropping it a lot more. I hate when such great and delicate technology is abused by clutz's who just want a faster facebook machine.
[Galaxy S III General] Z51:
Send it back for warranty repair. That's bull**** haha
[Galaxy S III General] Itadakiimasu:
Talk about being a klutz lol
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalbug:
i can not into FASTBOOT mode

why i press the search button connect the USB

i cant see the blue led and into the charging mode, blue light for two seconds, into orange LED

not find new hardware

just SEMC Mass Storage USB Drive

oh come im f**king dead

has been installed adb package

===============================

OKAY finally, I find the problem

bootloader unlock allowed: no

SIMLOCK

How do I into FASTBOOT mode:confused:

use testpoint? s1tool? for free? help me PLZ~
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ridder215215:
Are you sure you have all the correct drivers installed?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalbug:
yes, but connect the USB did not prompt new hardware
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peter_dizai:
No Worries...

You have me here,

first you should have ADB installed (adb package including fastboot)

second you should have SEUS (sony Ericsson Update service) and in some cases instead of SEUS you may have SE pc suite.

Turn off your phone,after 10 seconds turn it on again and connect the USB cable while holding back key.

simply extract adb package somewhere,navigate to that folder via CMD

Type:

fastboot devices

now there should be a connected device...:good:

Feel Free To Press My THX Button:)
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalbug:
thanks man

i try it.:p
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalbug:
i need adb package i cant find it :confused:
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orion4000:
There you go!

http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalbug:
not find new hardware

just SEMC Mass Storage USB Drive

oh come im f**king dead

has been installed adb package
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] netizenmt:
You can't get into fastboot mode if your bootloader is locked.

Try doing a little searching in these forums. These questions have been asked and answered many times before.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BuckM:
He speaks the truth! Also, if youre simlocked too than theres no way to unlock for free. If youre not simlocked and youre not CDMA then you can just go on sonys site to unlock your bootloader. Otherwise you need to get your bootloader unlocked, which will run you ~$24, just use the goog.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orion4000:
You Need to Unlock your Bootloader First then try to download and install the drivers for your device.. the main driver called (S1boot fastboot) here hopefully it would help you.. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1317531
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalbug:
no man, you dont have my idea, my device dont have blue led, and dont find new hardware "S1 boot" just only "SEMC Mass Storage USB Drive":eek:
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orion4000:
Oh sorry!

Sorry brother i'm trying to help! i will look for more solutions for you!
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalbug:
thanks man, find only way it pay for unlock :(
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chery2k:
True the only way to unlock you bootloader is to pay there is no "free" way. If you need your bootloader unlocked I recommend Alejandrissmo.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MynKry:
BL unlocked allowed no but Iam unlock it :D

Hey man ! Ive got an xperia play R800i and Iam unlock with the S1Tool and this is worked for me and my phone said BL unlocked allowed : NO , but i cant get into fastboot mod , but the flashtool said my bootloader status : ROOT and the S1Tool the same thing . Well i guess if the bootloader status isnt rootable , but if you unlock it , the FASTBOOT NOT GONNA WORK ......