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[Windows Phone 8 General] StevieBallz:
If you come across the information again please let us know. There seems to be some confusion on the SD card topic (WinSuperSite reported differently).

As for secure boot and the TPM: if Microsoft decides to make CustomROMs hard the best course of action seems to emulate the "Enterprise Marketplace" given the assumption that those won't user Microsoft certificates but instead company certificates (which could be installed by the user similarily to the Exchange server certificates today). But we'll have to wait and see how that gets implemented in the end.

PS: Just found the following on Microsofts Windows Phone Developer Blog

Sounds pretty much like sideloading might be a lot easier then we think it is.
[Windows Phone 8 General] lseidman:
Here is the problem with this... We're going to see DRM to the max. This has a chance of ruining the experience, just look at Apple recently. Also side-loading could be bad for the OS as look at Google with the possible Botnet + Trojans.

More importantly as a Dev, I fear more than anything, my code will be stolen, even if I Obfuscate the XAP. I rather my App be taken than my coding be compromised.
[Windows Phone 8 General] ZetaZynK:
Microsoft ruins the experience for WP7s even more imho. There's really a lot of essential stuff that unlocked WP7s can do, but that stock WP7 is unable to do.

This can be easily worked around: If they just made developer unlocks free (keeping the same deployment system as is), that would make it near to impossible for malware to spread.

...and this is why I believe WP8 will have security measures against abuse of that private app deployment feature. Also, XAPs are not even badly protected right now.
[Windows Phone 8 General] Simonas0:
Just for fun! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSnkWzZ7ZAA

He uses WP7 on 1:50 :D
[Windows Phone 8 General] circleofomega:
THE most informative thread on the WP8 section hands down....all u guys...BIG thanx for all the info...

Sent from my DROID RaZr.
[Windows Phone 8 General] devize:
This information is kind of making me question whether I really want to switch from Android to WP8. Anyone having used both android and WP8 want to share their thoughts? I know WP7/8 is closed similar to iOS but I think I'd like to atleast be able to sideload apps.
[Windows Phone 8 General] Alcoholic:
Stick with Android. Windows phone will not be developer friendly. This is my biggest problem with windows phone. The whole works out of the box experience really doesn't work when the software is young and lacking basic functionality . There is barely anything you can do with wp7 right now and winp8 is supposed to be even more locked down
[Windows Phone 8 General] ScRePt:
Come on guys. Developing on WP and Windows is done via Visual Studio (free) and .Net (C#). How on earth ANYTHING else is more developer friendly? Tones of samples, huge community (C#), open-source stuff, amazing documentation, Mono etc etc.

Java + Eclipse? ... come-on (String a = "a"; a == "a" ?? noooooo)

Cocococoa + objective C? sth like a language on sth like an IDE (it managed to crash the mac multiple times)

C/C++? drivers friendly maybe, developer friendly no.
[Windows Phone 8 General] circleofomega:
Yea..write the code..but the system won't accept/run it. As it accepts code from the right place..

Knowing how to drive a car is one thing. Actually driving it on the freeway is another...

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Windows Phone 8 General] mcosmin222:
...What?

If you know how to drive a car, how can you not drive it on a freeway? bad example i guess. You were probably referring to theory vs practice, but knowing the concepts of driving a car and actually knowing to drive it is different.

Anyway, which part of the code do you think the system won't accept? You know, you can't compile WPF for Windows Phone, and there is a really good reason why you can't.

As long as you stick to your SDK, you shouldn't have problems with code not working.
[Windows Phone 8 General] circleofomega:
Yea..probably a bad one...:P

what I'm trying to say...its a very closed system...apps can be run on your phone only from the marketplace...there is no way the system will accept/read an app from anywhere else..

To do that, u need to be enrolled as a dev with MS...and not everyone will do that..

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Windows Phone 8 General] pnyc:
So any news on sideloading apps on WP8 now that people have some WP8 devices in their hands?
[Windows Phone 8 General] StevieBallz:
The same things that were said already still hold, officically there are only the following options:

- install from Windows Phone Store

- sideload using a developer account and developer unlock (99$/year)

- sideload using a company account and company certificate (399$/year)

For unofficial options - there currently are none.
[Windows Phone 8 General] prahladvarda:
Then its the same as a wp7 device..u install a custom bootloader, install a registry editor in .cab format and edit required keys to achieve unlocks..i know it ain't so easy as we can say..first of all we should have a custom bootloader developed..then a registry editor for wp8 devices..i am just talking theoritically..i know its practically way way more difficult than blabbing here in forums..
[Windows Phone 8 General] letrain02:
according to the windows phone app store you can sideload xap files directly from sd card. go the windows store. find your app then all the way down on the left under supported languages it says "download and install manually", and then gives directions for doing so.
[Windows Phone 8 General] StevieBallz:
This sideloading of XAPs only works for XAPs that are in the Marketplace anyway or for XAPs that are signed with a valid company certificate installed on the device. You can only get those certificates from Symantec and they cost you $300/year. Self-signed certificates are not accepted.
[Windows Phone 8 General] IzaacJ:
I think that it will be possible to sideload XAPs later on. But for now, until someone manages to figure out how, I at least will get myself a dev account.

Off-topic, what do you guys think of the HTC 8X? Both me and my fiance is thinking of buying it since it's really cheap (~$490 w/o contract and unlocked).

Regards

Izaac
[Windows Phone 8 General] StevieBallz:
If you have no issues with the "limited" stoarge capacity of 16 GB (WP8 takes of 2.7 GB of that) I don't see much that speaks against it.

There is much to be said for a 920 instead of a 8X but if none of those additional features are important to you than the 8X will be a great device with a smaller price tag.
[Windows Phone 8 General] IzaacJ:
Well, I would love to have the 920 but the price tag is almost the double, and I cant afford that right now, and I've been without a phone for like 3 weeks now xD Can barely stand it till I get my salary to get the HTC 8X xD But if my fiance can wait a bit with her phone I can probably get a 920, will have to talk to her 'bout that :P

I'll be getting the Nokia Lumia 920 instead. It's worth the money way more than the X8. :D

EDIT: Just got some news from my fiance (whom is in Finland visiting her father during the Christmas) that I'm getting her stepmothers Nokia Lumia 800 to borrow until I get my 920 :D In about 3½ day I'll have that phone in my hand. Hopefully I'll enjoy it and then I might buy it cheap from her :P Hehe

Regards

Izaac
[HTC One X] SocialReject:
nvm...
[HTC One X] kami2k:
whats the full name? how its look like?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] iphone2streak:
I don't think i will upgrade to s3 over note ill wait for note2 just saying.........
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tulow:
i have a month with my note and nothing out there tickles my fancy.

when you get used to the large screen, there is no going back, from my experience.

my friend bought the s3 and im like meh its cool and all but that difference

on screen real estate has me hooked. i didnt get the buzz until i had 2 days with

the note.

i thought viewing excel documents on the s2 was a huuuuuge difference coming from the torch.

i thought viewing excel documents coming from the bold to the torch was a huuuge leap.

WTF the NOTE blows everything out of the water, all other phones are not worthy
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] SilverStone641:
Found another reason today to love our Notes over the SIII....

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-melts/

Haven't heard a report of Notes melting yet! :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] voodooline:
Wow that's crazy.

Sent from my Objection Note
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Tremulant1:
I just recently switched from the Iphone4 to the Galaxy Note....I was really planning on getting the S3 when it came out (I bought Note outright no contract from Craigslist) and the more I play with the Note...the less I want to switch. I mean they have the same specs except for the Note a bigger screen. Plus with the custom roms you can have almost everything a S3 has as far as features...why spend the extra cash for less screen and a few other features?

Oh and there is NO WAY IN HELL I will ever go back to Apple! :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] zer0nine:
They don't have the same specs.

i717 Note: Qualcomm S3 1.5ghz processor Adreno 220 GPU, 1gb RAM

i747 GSIII: Qualcomm S4 1.5ghz processor Adrena 225 GPU, 2gb RAM, Better cameras (Burst and HDR shot, 720p front facing), Gorilla Glass 2.

Although the features on the SIII are nice, they aren't enough for me to upgrade just yet.

Perhaps once 1080p screens become standard I will upgrade. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ducdoo:
I would wait for note 2. I really like my note (i717) despite problem with custom radio for T-Mobile.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] mv1luv:
I agree I think the note is gonna be on top for a while... for a long while.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] armyboy11b:
I'll stick with my note fo sure .....don't care for the one x nor the s3 ..."Quad core"....... i don't need a quad core phone......my DUAL CORE note runs every single game I have perfect ...like mass effect ...nova... mc3 ...and everything's else ...

NUFF said DUECE's
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Tremulant1:
Yea I meant to say similar specs, but yea you're right...not enough to make me switch over to the S3...:p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Android The Greek:
Two words jelly bean

"Since God created man, and man created the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy Note are like a gift from God, Randal!"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] appdroid:
S III IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOT!:p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] cb2000a:
In actual tests on You Tube the Note's camera actually outperformed most others, including the S3, in picture quality.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] CBaSS736:
Definitely gonna stick with the Note. I like to turn heads when using it in public. And nobody I know has it which makes it that much cooler. I can live without the slight upgrade in processing and ram.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gotshoaib:
When I had S2, I got my wife S2,

As now I have Note , I will get her get S3.

And I personally will wait for Note 2, bcoz am still enjoying Note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] porkenhimer:
Four words, you might be wrong. With lots of proof pointing to the ASUS Nexus Tegra 3 Tablet getting Jelly Bean first there is speculation Jelly Bean will be for tablets only just like Honeycomb. It actually makes sense cause they had tablets running Gingerbread and to set tablets apart they gave us Honeycomb now theres ICS which is very similar to Honeycomb and I think Google is smart enough to know they need something else to keep people interested in Android tablets. Who knows but if you go back and read old post about Honeycomb before it was announced by Google everyone thought they would get they update on their devices but when it was anounced it was a let down cause it was only for tablets and I am willing to bet the next Android OS will also be a tablet only OS. I would also bet that every other new Android OS will be Tablet only from now on. But hey maybe I am wrong.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] welchertc:
Three words, you are wrong. ICS was designed to make it simple for developing for both phones and tablets, hence why tablet mode is activated by a simple dpi change. ICS was made so Google doesn't have to deal with two different versions of software for tablets and phones, and both modes are built right in to one software version.

Plus, in the online Google play store, they just changed the galaxy nexus for sale to show hints at jelly bean, like the screen shown with a new stock wallpaper and different looking search bar, even right in the text description. It will be for both phones and tablets.

Edit: Here, needed to look this up: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ean-will-be-coming-to-the-galaxy-nexus-first/
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amirox:
Does anyone have any information on when WP7.8 will be available or if there is any source online to get our hands on it, so that porting may begin?

Here is an excellent article about the features one can expect in 7.8

Here's an Update wherein it is stated that RTM (Release to Manufacturing) is September while GA (General Availability) is November. ;-)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TitusO:
It will be released with the first WP8 devices.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theusername:
They did mention that there will be a program that allows you access to the updates early. I'm not sure if Windows Phone 7.8 is included in that, or if its just Windows Phone 8 and higher.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thrasher_0003:
Nokia lumia 900 gets WP7.8 for a couple of weeks, this is officialy confirmed by Nokia ana Microsoft .
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blaster88:
During the Summit I have understood that this feature is only for WP8-updates and not for WP7.8 because this update is released by the carriers.... So, we will have to wait .... :-/
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tesno:
I understood that the new update route is one of those few new things that come with 7.8
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexdaydreaming:
WP 7.8 is for the 1st & 2nd gen of WP devices that could not upgrade to WP8, sort of consolation;)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] backlashsid:
Once Nokia releases the update for Windows Phone 7.8 for the Nokia Lumia 900 can we expect a port soon to other devices like the HD7 ? or do we have to wait till HTC or Tmobile officially announces it ? (which I do not wish for)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheATHEiST:
This is the Windows Phone 8 forum, not 7 :silly:
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roqstr:
wp7.8 will be sent directly, not via providers. That means everybody should get this & get this the same date.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pvt_nemesis:
No, WP8 will receive subsequent updates 'over the air' but you have to have it to get that as I understand it!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuan2195:
AFAIK Nokia plans to release the Tango update (7.5) in the upcoming weeks, not the 7.8 update. We'll probably have to wait more especially given that MS is not very confident with the 7.8 performance as of now.

Our best bet is to wait for the Windows Phone 8 SDK coming late this summer. Chances are it will include a usable WP 7.8 build.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] revxx14:
I don't understand why people are talking about "porting" 7.8 to older phones. Every phone that runs Mango will get the 7.8 update, regardless of age or carrier. They've said they're pushing this update out without carrier intervention.

Also, Nokia did say that the 7.8 update would be release "in the coming weeks." That could mean withing the next few weeks, or by the time Windows Phone 8 comes out. Those are both technically "in the coming weeks."
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] edzhstar:
hey, according to multiple tech sites, the Windows Phone 7.8 will be released right after the WP8 has been outed in the market. :):D
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amirox:
Well, I for one have an old HD2 which of course is excluded of the luxury of official updates. Also I thought it'd be more fitting to put in here than in wp7 forum because of similarity.. sorry if I was wrong there. Happy with the outcome so far. I wanted to make a platform for discussion regarding 7.8 release and that we got; )
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dr.Mazika:
Will WP 7.8 contain ?

DataSmart

IE10

Company Hub

Wallet

VOIP+Skype+VideoChat

all wp8 features that not need hardware changes
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DavidinCT:
No, this has been clearly said by Microsoft and followed up with big people who work with and are at Microsoft, you will ONLY get the new tile layout on the main page (to have the 3 size tiles) and nothing else.

Only other changes you could possably get will be in a App format(downloadable via the marketplace). Not a update. If you want more of the new stuff, you will have to BUY a WP8 device when it's released.

This has been said from Microsoft a few times now...

---------- Post added at 09:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:07 PM ----------

There was a update to that, they took it back.

https://twitter.com/NokiaUS/status/215627719155793922

That statement that you would get 7.8 on Nokia devices in a few weeks is INCORRECT, here is WPcentral's take on it...

http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-78-update-available-weeks

It's TBA... So no one knows at this point...

Trust me, I wish it was true because if Nokia got it, we'd all get it, as I am sure someone will rip it to work on any device...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skywalker134:
I have a Samsung focus v1.3 running a custom ROM. Will I be able to update to 7.8 when it comes out?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lseidman:
I currently run WP 7.8.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freddx:
That is some kind of joke, isn´t it?! :eek:
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DavidinCT:
What do they say....

Put up or shut up...

Picture and proof, or it's BS...

If it's true...plz leak it...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] giga.abhi:
Hi there will not be any source or anything...and in currently WP7 phones will not upgrade to WP8 due to its hardware limitations. So in WP7.8 you'll get home screen like WP8 which is highly customizable! :)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] huismeester:
version 7.8 for 1e and 2e gen coming after release off wp8 devices thats confirmed from microsoft,s Joe Belfiore.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
How different is WP7.8 and WP8??
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StevieBallz:
The only thing that is currently confirmed for WP7.8 is that it will contain the new Startscreen with resizable Live-Tiles. In-App Purchases won't be supported on WP7.8. In WP8 Nokia Maps (inlcuding Offline Maps and Navigation) will replace Bing Maps. This won't happen for WP7.8.

Apps developed targeting WP7.x will run on WP8 but WP8 Apps won't be able to run on WP7.8.

Aside from that not too much info is available on WP7.8 but most of the major features will be WP8 only.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Loco5150:
As said, pics or it didnt happen and if really so share it to the community!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndrewSh:
Actually the whole thread is in the wrong section. WP7.8 is just WP7. With a bit modified UI and no other innovations. Why is it in Windows Phone 8 discussions?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gd761:
What about for the HTC Arrive? Will we get the WP 7.8 update for our phones?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndrewSh:
Can say nothing about official updates but custom 7.8 roms will definitely work on both 1-st and 2-nd generation devices. So - wait until recognized.... hmmm... dumpers :) will start to clone "super fast and super smooth" roms for you :)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sh4d0w86:
bahahaha. :D well said.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Archer:
It's managed to slip under the radar for this long, somehow, but this thread is in the wrong forum, as mentioned a few times previously.

Thread moved.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svknet:
http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/09/11/great-times-ahead-for-all-nokia-lumia-smartphones/

Does this mean Samsung/HTC/etc handsets with WP7.8 would also have Bluetooth File transfer? I wish it does :)

Also now MS should announce dates for WP7.8 launch.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sh4d0w86:
I wouldn't count on a release date anytime soon. it is expected to drop after WP8 and that hasn't even received an official release, yet.

Sent from my HD7 using Dynamics7.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ilboy:
Just a guess, but I think it's going to be released by Christmas (no-brand). Months and months later for branded..
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoodDayToDie:
@svknet: There's two ways that could happen. One of them is that media sharing is an official feature of WP7.8, and will be rolled out to all devices. I hope this is the case, and it seems reasonable. The other one is that Nokia releases an app that uses some Lumia-firmware-specific driver to access the filesystem (like the HtcFileUtility driver that enabled TouchXplorer). This would sort of suck for other phones, but it would also be another INTEROPSERVICES app that we could try to exploit to gain root on Lumia devices...

I really wish Nokia would stop conflating their apps with the OS features. A lot of the **** that they talk about as features of the Lumia 920, for example, aren't just apps, they're actually WP7.5 apps (i.e. they run on Lumia phones today)!! It's hard to tell, from their marketing, what's actually an OS feature and what isn't.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Kromatic3:
Hey guys,

Recently I've been having some camera troubles. When I try to take a picture with my One X, the picture seems to be taken but is not saved into the gallery. A few seconds later the camera app quits by itself. This happens to me all the time now. Even after a phone reboot. I can't take pictures anymore.

Can anyone suggest a fix to this or do I have to reset to factory defaults? Thanks!

HTC One X

Rogers Stock

1.73.631.1

Not rooted
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] sharp2G:
seems like a bug. I have the same one X and firmware as you and have no problems. I would do a factory reset or try a third party app.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Kromatic3:
I did a reset. Problem is solved. Hopefully it won't come back.

Sent from my HTC One X
[Windows Phone 8 General] dotcompt:
Windows phone 8 new pretty face

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25DKXGKblOw&feature=player_embedded
[Windows Phone 8 General] win98:
here u can find the whole video:

http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Windows-Phone/Summit
[Windows Phone 8 General] SamJohnson:
I did a quick post about the new start screen on my website. Would love it if people could check it out.

http://geekshavelanded.com/windows-phone-8/
[Windows Phone 8 General] Celvin-:
i LOVE the new Startcreen :) <3