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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] EvilTodd:
You do realize you can get the number of hours of screen time by hitting "Screen" under the battery graph in the usage list, right? Would keep us all from trying to guess at it.

EDIT: Also, did you switch from PERFORMANCE to BATTERY in the init.qcom.post_boot.sh file located in /etc? I notice quite a difference by doing that. See post #3 for details.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] robbo10:
As far as the message app lag, the app its self doesn't lag only the contact pictures take a few to show up. As I scroll the list they show up one by one. I'm running Kang Kong theme.

Swyped from my MeanELTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
that has happened to me with this phone even before i rooted it
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] P.Mobile:
Nice.. witch one sleeps better u think.. I trying to find what kernel sleeps the best..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] robbo10:
Lol, I don't think a lasted a week before I rooted, so I wouldn't remember.

Swyped from my MeanELTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
they feel about the same, i have evilz at 1.7, where enoch was at 1.5...both seem equally as smooth but i can tell the difference with the o/c. also evilz uses 96 bit rate for better sound. dont know if enoch has that yet
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] d0g:
Ha! Totally forgot about that! Thanks. I'll check in 8 hours (since I reflashed the ROM last night!)

I'll try that.

What I did notice this morning is that ever after an all-night charge, when I woke up the battery said 99%, not 100%. Is that normal?

(I'm now at 90% after 1h30m on battery, with 27m screen on)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] imex99:
Mikey,

I get the sms delay a few times a day. Once I get the delay, it takes so long I get prompted to wait or force close the app.

If i close all the open background apps, handcent will open immediately after having the delay.

I'm using handcent SMS, I'm about to un install it and test stock for the rest of the day. If you need any logs or me test test, just ask.

I'm not running any themes, just a full wipe of your latest rom and all my apps.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] teamrealtree:
The same thing has been happening to me I thought it was my charger.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] CheriePie:
In my issue, it's not only the messaging app, but the attempt to use the Contacts file. So I've seen the issue manifest itself in several apps including the built-in ones like Messages and People, as well as SMS Popup which I use for customized per person SMS ringtones and on-screen popups. While my app appears to be hanging, I've jumped over to System Panel and verified CPU usage between 80-100% on both Contacts Storage and User Dictionary.

I've completely cleared my contacts file and turned off Facebook and G+ syncing (not using Twitter syncing). After a reboot, I let my contacts resync from my Gmail and things appear snappier for a couple days but the slowness creeps back in after a week give or take a few days. Also, I cleaned out my SMS texts so I only have the last month's worth or so. So the size of my contacts file isn't overly large.

I did a full wipe and installed MeanROM on Sunday night so I haven't yet seen this problem come back up yet. As I mentioned before, it usually takes at least a few days after I've wiped my contacts file anyway, but I will report back if it's still happening under MeanROM in the same way or frequency that it was under stock.

Edited to add: By lag, I'm talking anywhere from a 20-30 second lag time for example in opening a message thread in the Messaging app. That's a pretty long time! Often my 30 second screen delay will kick in while I'm waiting. Sometimes the lag will be so long, the OS will report that the app isn't responding but if I choose Wait, it'll usually come back.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] freshlysqueezed:
Thanks for clearing that up. I would like to try 12 apps in the next release of your ROM.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xanmanz31:
4.8.1 doin great! I'm chomping at the bit to flash something Mix Master Mike. Whatcha got to say? Lol yeah I'm a beastie boys fan.

Battery life is rocking. Granted I wasn't on it much but still sweet. It got noticeably better when I set wifi settings to always on.

Sent from my Mean Ass LTEVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
Enoch v3 (ca1ne)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] P.Mobile:
hows battery drain at nite when phone is sleeping?? i always thought that a custom kernel messes up mikeys awakening tweaks that in mean rom?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
I've never experienced any slowness in any application when I hit 16. I simply get an increase in FCs. What puzzles me is if I close out the apps, a good majority still show in the task manager. I kill them from there and I'm golden.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] firegeek:
I tried something last nite... Since as I was going to bed my phone was fully charged, I left it unplugged overnight to see how well it sleeps. Obviously it has worse insomnia than I have this last week and woke up at 38% losing 62% while sleeping seems a bit excessive...

Makes me think, no wonder I don't get good battery life. Lol

E.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
Thats abnormal, somethings going on there other than the rom
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
Use betterbatterystats find out what's waking it up
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] d0g:
I made a flashable zip of the mod to remove the 3-dot menu (and move menus to bottom of screen) ... I don't know how to sign it, so if someone else wants to do that ... otherwise you need to disable signature checking ...

All it does is add "qemu.hw.mainkeys=1" to /system/build.prop
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Socrguru:
I always use the app "Signapktic" to sign flashable files - it's free and really easy to use.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] netengineer:
I get the same thing with GOSMS, it happens a few times a day. I have to say when I clear the recent apps it seems to go away.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
I use gosms and had that issue on 4.6 but 4.8.1 is all good for me
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cruise350:
I

Hey Mike,

I don't have any special messaging app installed just the one that comes with the rom. The slow down doesn't happen everytime I open messaging or contacts. But when it does happen, I go to the people app or messaging app I will see the spinning loading icon and it takes along time to never to open messaging or in the people app to display the contacts. When this occurs I instantly hit the recent apps button and swipe close all the apps except for the messaging app or people app (whichever one I was trying to access at the time), then hit on that app to reopen it and it will instantly load with no delay. I only started getting this behavior when you went from 8 apps in recent programs to 16 apps. Since no one has the same amount of free memory that maybe why not all phones are affected. But for me, I think the multitasking may have gone too far keeping too many apps open. I would love to see a reduction to 12 like you said, or an option to flash to bring it down from 16 to 8 apps. In reality, does anyone really need to keep 16 apps active in memory in the first place.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] netengineer:
I need to do a full wipe but just haven't had time to.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Osirus71:
I for one would think this is a good idea as well.....

Just my .02;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] netengineer:
I want to try out ROM Cleaner and I can't seem to find the link to the thread. Who has used it and has had good results with it? It looked very interesting when I looked at it a while ago but just never tried it because I was worried about screwing something up.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xirin:
Weird thing -- installed MeanROM 4.8, and the menu "..." buttons came back.

I tried installing the remap zip from an old version of MeanROM, but after that the new version doesn't seem to boot :(

After reflashing, I tried adding "qemu.hw.mainkeys=1" to /system/build.prop. That kinda worked. It got rid of the menu buttons, but the right key still pulls up the recent apps list.

Anyone got ideas on what I'm doing wrong? How do I get the right button to be menu again?

Thank you!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] iconeo:
It's in settings
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xirin:
Doh! Thank you so much! I'm off to crawl under a rock :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
Its fantastic! I won't flash a rom without it. You can clean or dirty flash with it as well. Here ya go http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1832162
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] P.Mobile:
i never tried a diff launcher.. whats the best one?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] d0g:
Nova. Awesome.

[Sent from mobile]
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] EvilTodd:
The problem is with the contacts populating. It's not with Handcent or GO SMS or any of the apps themselves. It's anything that relies on your contacts. The freeze occurs until the contacts finally populate. I had the problem before I went to CM10 from Mean4.8, but the problem is gone now after a full wipe (several of them, I promise you as I tried relentlessly to get Mean back on, only to find that my recovery was "too" up-to-date) and a clean install. Is it possible that the TWRP 2.3.x.x is causing it? I don't remember when I updated it vs. when the problem started. Doesn't seem like that would be it, but I know nothing about cooking ROMs and the sort. But considering I downgraded my recovery back to 2.2.2.0 and am no longer having the issue...I thought, maybe???
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] nohart:
The only issue I am having with this current rom is that when WiFi turns off sometimes it just goes into this greyed out mode saying WiFi turning off. And it will not turn back on or anything. The only way I can seem to fix it is by restarting the phone. Going to Airplane mode and back doesn't work for me. Does any one know of a fix?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Socrguru:
Nova's a good one, like many others have said.

I'm gonna catch some flak for this, but I've actually been using Launcher7 the past few weeks... It's really simple and fast, I'm having a hard time switching away. There's a free version so you can try it first, too.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Adebayo88:
The sms issue does seem to be a mystery. The problem for me started a couple of mean interactions ago (maybe like 4.5.) ... My two cents: I'm was using the stock messaging app. I have no kind of thremeing or mods on this mean rom. It's as stock as you can get. I'm on a fresh install and did not restore any data of any kind. Yet the problem seems to persist. It's not so much opening the messaging app as it is just opening an actual message, it'll just load and take forever (). And it's not every time this happens, more like once or twice a day. I don't think it's related the amount of apps opened as when the moment I witnessed it I closed all apps and the problem still persisted. Also a similar situation happened when I press the '+' symbol in the dialer to add a new contact, after pressing, it took forever to load,a lot longer than usual. (don't know if that's a separate issue or not just thought I'd report that as well). Now I've just migrated to Google Voice as my primary messenger for now . It's missing a lot of the features of the HTC Messaging app which is why I'm posting this in hopes that this could help you hone in on the problem.

I'm gonna continue trying to figure this out as well. I'm thinking maybe it's has something to do with my sms pop up app. I'll uninstall it and see what happens.

I'm on 4.8.1, and s-off, and latest everything, 1.5 kernel
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] moses2303:
I have this happen as well. Same scenario, only restart fixes it-until it happens again.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] evomike77:
Mine sleeps like rip van winkle on ambien...lol

LtEVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KnoxBNYC:
Quick question. When I click a Google Play link I've received via txt message, it takes me to my web browser, rather than Google Play (or asking me to choose). How do I fix this?

Thanks! :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
Remember that reducing the number that can be in memory at any given time will also increase the frequency of task killing: with tasks getting killed more often due to only 8 being allowed in memory. That was the reason for increasing the number: not so you could see 16 in recent apps.

It'd be nice to get a logcat while the delay is happening! While the delay is going on, do "adb logcat -d -v time > logcat.txt". That'd show which apps are doing what. It's possible that when this happens, the calling app (whatever called the contacts app) is being killed and it has no place to return... or something like that. Technically that shouldn't happen but something that shouldn't be happening obviously is and the logcat would likely solve it.

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] obperryo:
Well, I happen to have aLogcat on my phone.. don't really know how to use it. I started it, went into settings and selected clear... then switched over to messages, selected the top person and bang, it got stuck at the loading screen.... I left it this way for a minute.. then hit the back key and tried again.. then it loaded. I switched back to aLogcat and did a save.

Note I have never installed any sms apps, only use stock.

Hopefully it got captured in the attached file.. let me know please.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
It's what I've been talking about recently: multitasking adjustments to reduce memory requirements.

You have an error block in your logcat referring to an unhandled exception of a database listview cursor. Crosslinking this to online info pulled up some vague information about an old Android bug that occurs when you have more than 450 database entries (contacts). How many contacts do you have?

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] d0g:
I have the "SMS bug" and I have over 1,000 contacts.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] obperryo:
Looks like I have 204 Facebook, 248 Google, 14 Touchdown and 0 Phone....

Did it show the attempt to enter messages with the error and then a second attempt with success?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Zyzzx:
Not sure if anyone is having this same problem, but I am unable to answer calls. When the phone rings, it displays the screen as if I had already answered the call; it just shows the "End Call" screen. I am also using the "Current Caller ID" app, which could be a factor.

I will try uninstalling and see if the problem persists.

There is no question in my post; but, if anyone else has experienced the problem without this app being installed, I would appreciate any input that will fix this issue.

Edit: Uninstalling the "Current Caller ID" worked, but why? How do I fix it?

Edit after the Edit: I reinstalled "Current Caller ID", and now it doesn't work; however, I can answer calls the first time it rings, which is good. Any answers?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] schmeggy929:
I would look at the settings in the app to see if there is anything about automatically calls to voicemail, and maybe emailing the app developer about the issue.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bog3nator:
I use it and love it, flash Rom from.clean install. Flash Rom cleaner and restore ky home screens and remove apps. Reboot and done

sent from my Mean ass EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Zyzzx:
The problem started after updating to 4.8; my apologize for leaving that out of the initial post.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] schmeggy929:
and those that seem to having the sms problem, do you all have like 500-1000 contacts? Also how longer has it been doing it? To me the logical answer is ya'll have way too damn contacts. LOL As Mikey said it sounds a database overload where it is fetching every contact and their info. Maybe this "fetching" is using alot of memory.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
Actually, that other error may be unrelated or a consequence of an earlier problem. Earlier on I see "database lock has not been available for 30 sec..." Looks like facebook contact sync grabbed ahold of the sqlite database, locked it, and never let it go. I wonder if someone who is getting the problem consistently could freeze facebook and see if the problem goes away. Or maybe at least turn off facebook sync. It's hard to trace the root cause. Might have even been something before facebook, but something is locking out the contacts database and not releasing it.

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Chewieez:
I use the stock messaging app, no themes, running 4.8 dirty flash, and I get the SMS opening lag randomly. It doesn't happen all the time. I have 580 Google contacts and I sync Facebook to existing contacts. I haven't had the login the past few days. I have had some overall lag on the phone. I think I may do a clean flash soon.

Do you think using something like Facebook Contact Sync to link contacts instead of HTC?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] obperryo:
I do get it from time to time, but I am not able to get this to happen again... I got real lucky earlier tonight, was surprised myself.

I can say I was having some facebook notifications come in earlier tonight.. more than normal.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] imex99:
I have 552 total contacts, untied facebook contact sync...

I'm one of the people getting the sms lag on opening. I'm about to reboot my phone and will report back after testing.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] puhiniho:
Just wanted add to the mix. I have 1129 contacts and I don't seem to have text app opening lag. But what I have been noticing is that some of my text gets missed or late. I'm on GO SMS and I also have ghost sms which are catching these missing text. Any thoughts?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mumbles202:
Is there s way to get rid of the .com button from the keyboard?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Chewieez:
Yep, Swiftkey 3 ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Guitarified:
Still have the unresponsive screen during most calls while using Bluetooth, but discovered today that it's only when I make the call, never when someone calls me. Anyone have any insight?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
I used to have Facebook issues until I got rid of the HTC version. I just use the real app along with hexsync to get higher resolution images for pictures.

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I have had sprint for more than 10 years and text messages and voicemails have always had late issues. Switched to Google Voice and those issues went away.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] CBRRider:
I use the stock messaging app and have less than 100 contacts. But I get random texts out of order a couple times a week. Usually when someone sends me a text that comes in more than one part. It would be nice to have a sort option to sort the texts by day/time. Anyone know how to modify the stock app to add that?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
Good god.. How do you guys have so many contacts? You in sales or something? Hope it's the legal type :)

Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kisakuku:
I've always been puzzled why everybody with an Android phone on Sprint doesn't use Google Voice integration except maybe those who don't have a reliable mobile data or WiFi connection available 100% of the time.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ipclark1:
Very similar scenario for me. I haven't gotten anywhere as far as a workaround/fix. Timed is today at about 4 minutes to recognize the contact after entering it into subject field of sms and just waiting. Let me know if/when a solution is found.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] babyschmoof:
Thanks for the follow thru. At first Google used "cell based" numbers, so I basically never used any minutes. I'm guessing their hand was forced to be reclassified as land lines. Regardless, their voicemail service is far superior to sprints. You don't even have to move your number over to them, for the service to be flawless. I like the idea that I can swap VM service in seconds. I heard a rumor a year ago that sprint was going to push all vm and sms to Google, but they had to back out due to pressure from other carriers. If you have not tried it, you are really missing out.

Additional : if you use gv for voice mail, disable Sprint's VM, as it's wasted resources. That app will otherwise try to restart.

You can also use GV for voice mail and standard sms if you wish.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KEYofR:
I must have 5 or 10 thousand. Years ago I had written myself an export process that dumped my companies entire customer, vendor, and employee databases from our legacy Unix app into csv that were compatible with palm desktop and ms outlook, and would periodically update them until palm no longer supported the csv sync feature and I couldn't stand outlook any more. I've been migrating that db forward to each new phone adding some all the time since my palmos sph-i300 in 2001 to today.

I have not had any messaging delays.

I'm shocked to hear they think merely 450 is a reasonable number to target. Even that ancient palm with whatever miniscule cpu and ram it must have had, had no problem with thousands of contacts. Many of our customers used the same process to various other palm and wince devices.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] smarkum:
I'm starting to feel inadequate :crying:

I don't have anywhere near as many contact as most are reporting. And, I only have about 5 text msgs in storage at a time. I delete as I go . .. It really bothers me to have clutter around , and for me, old txt msgs or old vm's are clutter. . . so I delete a lot.

I have not had any troubles at all with any of the Mean ROM versions. I am very grateful for that! It is very interesting to watch the process of trying to figure out how many apps should be in recent apps and watching this txt msg issue unfold. I don't understand most of the programming type language, but it is interesting just the same. Kinda like a detective show or novel for me!! (sad I know!)

But, overall, just wanted to say THANKS MIKIE!!! Keep up the AWESOME work!!!!!:laugh:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] imex99:
Mikey,

I'm not having any sms delays since I stopped syncing my Facebook contacts. I'm using stock and handcent since last night with Facebook contact sync not active.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jerz:
I've noticed the lag too... in both messaging and when I'm trying to call someone. I'll click on a name to call someone and it'll take like ten seconds to do anything. I also noticed that my home screen doesn't always go to landscape when I put the phone in my car dock... I usually notice things like this when I'm running Nav, wifi tether, tune in radio, mail, etc....

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I have this issue too, it takes about three rings before the green button shows up so I can answer it but I thought it might have been because I'm running the "Current Caller ID" app....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cruise350:
That little cpu in that Palm Pilot didn't have contact pictures to deal with. Lets see it process that many contacts when you've got a picture attached to it. And yes, I know you don't have to attach a picture to a contact, but without it contacts are boring as hell. We have these great phones with big screens and we need the eye candy.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jerz:
I'm not sure where to check the count but I'm quite sure I do.... between business and friends I have a LOT....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cruise350:
Mikey, you could be on something with the Facebook slowing it down. I'm pretty sure everytime I've experienced the slow down and cleared my recent apps that Facebook was one of the apps running. I will try to grab a logcat next time I experience it and also see if Facebook was in my recent apps list at the time. For now, I just periodically clear my recent apps to keep my phone speedy.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Adebayo88:
It's missing a lot of features...like sending a group message to one of the groups I made (instead of going each contact, I'm talking like 30+) and also you you don't get mms with Google Voice. And instead of one continuous thread from one contact, it starts a new one every day.

I personally use GV as my daily but I really miss the stock messenger.