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[Galaxy S III General] insomnia:
i hope my phone comes with the sony sensor...... I "need" it lol :)
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
Sorry to say this but the photos look crap.

You must have the samsung module.
[Galaxy S III General] bortak:
Eh, don't really care. Hardly ever use the camera anyway.
[Galaxy S III General] Crunozaur:
Well, photos on my SGS3 (especially during low-light conditions) are terrible.

Unfortunately I can't post shots I just took because I need to have 10 posts first to be able to post links...
[Galaxy S III General] insomnia:
Post your firmware version at least?
[Galaxy S III General] nanoo-eg:
Indoor medium light S3 VS ONE X

By kostaseg at 2012-07-03

Indoor low light S3 VS One x

By kostaseg at 2012-06-29

Outdoor night HDR S3 VS One x

By kostaseg at 2012-07-03

Indoor low light S3 VS galaxy Note

By kostaseg at 2012-07-03

Indoor low light S3 HDR VS S3 Using flash

By kostaseg at 2012-07-03
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
pic taken with flash.

Very low light conditions.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/64458592@N05/7498246202/in/photostream

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photo taken with night mode

http://www.flickr.com/photos/64458592@N05/7498391924/in/photostream
[Galaxy S III General] cydiamante:
All tests and reviews conclude that the camera on the one x is better low light than the s3 because it has a lower f number allowing more light to enter the sensor.
[Galaxy S III General] tom369:
They're 100% certain it's a Sony module, they're just wondering whether it's a newer one compared to SGS2 or not.
[Galaxy S III General] n70shan:
true!
[Galaxy S III General] nineofseven:
Outdoor picture Problem

Hi,

i have also the ZDFE02 version and noisy effects, but i have some more problems if i shot outdoor pictures. Bright Objects have in standard mode usually a light fog around the object

Anyone with the same problem ?
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
please stop posting irrelevant pictures from One X... this thread is not about One X vs S3 :)

nineofseven: I dont have this problem. it might be the white colour of the plane and the bright sky messing up with the exposure :( have u tried from a different angle?
[Galaxy S III General] nanoo-eg:
Who told you that we post photos from one x to make VS? If you do not understand, I inform you we use them so as to have some standards. I have both of devices. I'm not a fan boy of any company. Probably you have an allergy to HTC. :D But here we are trying to find a solution we didn't vs.
[Galaxy S III General] nineofseven:
Unfortunately, the same...with a scene mode or iso 100 and white alignment i can reduce it, but this is just not a solution for quick snapshots
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
I believe Samsung has deceived the costumers.

The very first phones with BSI sensor went to reviewers

in order to advertise their flagship.The rest of the phones

went to retailers and they had the crap Samsung sensor.

Samsung must make an official announcement about the

whole thing regarding the S3 camera.
[Galaxy S III General] nanoo-eg:
Not exactly. Most devices sold the first days had the module from Sony.
[Galaxy S III General] cydiamante:
Another factor I think which plays a role on how noisy the pictures are is whether you have anti shake on or off. Anti shake on the Galaxy is no fancy lens shift technology which normal cameras have, all it does is double the ISO to increase the shutter speed. Thus the the higher the ISO the noisier the pictures.

I tried one scene with anti shake on and off. First scene with anti shake on the ISO was 1600 and very noisy cause of this & and the shutter was 1/30. Second without anti shake ISO was 800 and shutter 1/15. The lower ISO was quite cleaner from noise but ever so slightly blurry cause of the low shutter speed.
[Galaxy S III General] giovag7:
Yes But gs2 at the same iso seem to be more sensible to the light.

It seems that gs2 at 400 iso reach same result than gs3 at 800 iso, obviously gs3 at 800 iso is much more noisy.

Do you experience that?
[Galaxy S III General] harunjo:
maybe below link will help to take better shot?

trick to shot pic with low light condition - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1751488

trick to shot pic with low light condition
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
That's correct.
[Galaxy S III General] tom369:
This is exactly what I've observed (anti-shake OFF, ZDF* firmware). I made dozens of test photos with SGS2 and SGS3 in the same conditions in a dark environment and when in auto mode SGS2 used ISO 400 mode mostly while the SGS3 almost always ISO 800. One could argue that because of SGS3's "improved" sensor it can achieve the same quality in ISO 800 like SGS2 in ISO 400, but as we all know this is not the case here.
[Galaxy S III General] sqlpro:
last night my phone received an update (stability update it said) and looks like camera firmware updated too (ZDFE02).

like others reported night shots are full of noise but outdoor shots are nice. night mode seem to be slightly better than normal mode with little less noise. probably its because ISO locked at 200!

BTW am from new zealand.
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
Very low light conditions.

Taken with night mode.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/64458592@N05/7503630030/in/photostream
[Galaxy S III General] limeaid:
Are you saying that you had gd firmware before and it updated to ZDFE02?
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
The only real solution that i can see is

to buy the Sony module (it costs around 35 euros i think)

and put it in S3.
[Galaxy S III General] 380AU:
I might have to retract what I said and posted here.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28172897&postcount=160

Those shots were taken in low, but natural light.

Mucking around last night again, and I think I'll have to say the two take much different pics under artificial lighting, with my white GDFE01 GS3 taking noticably better pics under these conditions.

Sharper, less noise, and more natural colours.

Will do some more testing tonight and will put up some pics of side by side comparisons.
[Galaxy S III General] stevessvt:
Here's a link to some pics I took with my zdfe02 phone. I threw in some comparison shots using CameraZoomFX and vignette.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28300360&postcount=54
[Galaxy S III General] electric0ant:
I got my S3 replaced as it had a slightly loose battery cover, it was really annoying me. swapping the battery covers didn't help so looked like there was an issue with the build of the body.

new one has ZDFE02.

I did take a couple of comparison shots with my original S3 with GDFE01 and my gf's s3 with also has ZDFE02 and there was slight improvement with the GDFE01 in low light, but not so much.

i notice you are all saying the S2 took better low light pictures, but in my experience my S2 took really bad low light pics, it could barely take pictures in restaurants,
[Galaxy S III General] Aimara:
is there a official report somewhere ?

how can they change hardware as they like , so those who bought the first batch deserve the sony module ?

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question is does the sony module does take good picture at low light ?
[Galaxy S III General] penfold:
i just tried some shots on a white S3 with GDF firmware, presumably sony sensor, the daylight shots are great, the low light shots are poor, so there is probably not that much difference with the samsung sensor.

The low light shots were more blurred than noisy. I tried with camera zoom fx with the 'stable' mode and the low light shot was MUCH better, in focus, brighter ...so i think it's a software issue also ....many of the third party apps with 'stablisation' feature work better than the stock camera (procapture, pro zoom camera, camera zoom fx, camera fv-5 .....not tried them all on this phone so not sure which one is the best for the S3)

if you are getting good daylight shots with a ZDF sensor i wouldn't worry about it, just try a different camera app, i doubt there is that much difference between sensors
[Galaxy S III General] eyecon82:
I think all of us have great daytime photos....the night pohtos suck

I guess we all care because the iphone 4s, no matter how much i hate apple, produces a darn awesome low light camera

many of us want to ditch our point and shoot and just rely on our phone....the DSLR will still pop out for special events, vacations, etc....
[Galaxy S III General] stevessvt:
Am I the only one that has tried taking pics not using the factory app to see a difference?
[Galaxy S III General] Olywa123:
I've tried a few others but still not much joy for low-light situations. 'Night Camera' reduces noise a bit but you can kind of tell. Another I tried is 'lgcamera', this one has a ton more settings than stock but I still didn't get great low-light results.

Olywa
[Galaxy S III General] harunjo:
cam fw:gdfd06

taken without flash..and night mode

is it good or bad? how do you think?

i still think it is ok for phone cam
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
Guys, my dad came over to paris, and his got the S2...

the pictures on the S2 are considerably worse, in normal light.

It's a shocking difference - I'll show u soon enough (and yes I took a picture of the FW version of his S2

In low light, it's interesting, its almost as if the ISO on the S2 is HIGHER than the S3's
[Galaxy S III General] NaimC:
I'm convinced the S3's woes are a software issue, but I could be wrong. There seems to be a sudden threshold of light visibility where the camera in default mode suddenly goes very dark and crushes lots of details with black crush of dark clipping.

However, to remedy this is easy, just switch to HDR mode and you'll notice that in these severe light instances HDR often greatly improves things.

You always have night mode too, which is super clean and bright but at the expense of realism, sharpness and a slow shutter. Nice having the option though!
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
Today I went to a Vodafone store which had a white one with GDF fw and the security tag was rly small and gave me lots of flexibility to test it.

The end result was the pics from both phones were exactly the same, same ISO, shutter speed, size, details etc. may be a bit warmer colours from GDF camera.

I took all pics in artificial light mixed with daylight, basicaly it was VERY bright in the store.

I'm starting to think that the bad lowlight and night mode pics might be just a software issue, may be a rewrite of the Camera.apk will fix this :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
Right here is the S2 vs S3 comparison by me!

-The camera app was setup exactly the same (same settings etc)

-The position whilst taking was near identical

-The focus point was identical

From the pictures you will be able to see several things (from my non-professional eye):

-S3 has truer colours

-S3's software is far more superior - like taking fast pictures (that you can't see, but for anyone that's owned both, or tried both, you'll know)

-S3's colours are a little more "refined" and vivid

-S3's noise is almost identical to the S2's

-S2's pictures seem washed out a little (both lenses were clean)

-S2 has brighter low-light pictures

-S2's colours in low-light conditions are superior

So what does this tell me, personally?

Well if I want to take low light pictures (bear in mind, in reality I won't have 2 hands on the camera, acting liking a bi-pod) - I'de use flash, and/or a higher ISO setting, to bring in a little more light.

I feel the pictures are both great, but the S3 somehow wins over the S2, due to it's more vivid, and truer colour in daylight, and of course, its superior software capabilities.

For me low-light isn't really an issue, as normally flash would take care of it. It's only if I'm feeling "arty" where I'll really need the S2's lens to take a brighter/nicer picture.

Hope this clears things up of S2 vs S3

Note:

-I didn't want to damage my dad's phone, so I haven't touched his FW version + I was in a little bit of a rush, as he was leaving within 2hrs for England (recovering the phone back etc).

-My dad is 2.3.3 (i need to upgrade him via kies) - I'm on 4.0.4 on my S3

-The pictures are labelled from 1 to 8, all in the correct order, thus S2 4, will correspond with S3 4.
[Galaxy S III General] jody2k:
hmm... the first pics are the S3 right? (As I can see at the file names). I find the S2 taking more crispy pics than S3 on the buildings or am I wrong? OO
[Galaxy S III General] jody2k:
This is sad...
[Galaxy S III General] jody2k:
So I have opened my phone and I have the plastic module (sony module if I believe the pictures below from the first post).

So that must be the good one then, right?

It's very easy to check it out which module you have! and the back witch couple of screws it almost falls of automaticaly :D easy to open!

=> watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo93EF7rVIw

@foxy4270 could you check out if you have the samsung module (metal all sides) or the plastic one (sony)?
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
I really hope that Galaxy S4 has a better camera.
[Galaxy S III General] gaspernemec:
Kot my s3 today, first thing i checked was camera fw version which is GDFD06 so i guess that means i have sony module if speculations are right :)
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
Look carefully at this picture.

It was taken on 21st of May by Galaxy S3

that was bought on Dubahi the same day.

This phone's camera uses 99% the Sony module.

Low-light conditions and moving objects.

The conclusion is yours.
[Galaxy S III General] jody2k:
Yes but we need to be honest now, it takes great pictures but as i can see from the results the s2 was taking little bit sharper pics (more details, crisp) im sure this is a software prob, we need a genius to solve the "issue" as for me im quite happy with my phone as it is
[Galaxy S III General] kiwi_radical:
A little bit of common sense on cameras -lets cut the BS

I can't believe so much misguided discussion and 'pixel peeping' on S3 cameras. The first thing all should note is that the S3 camera quality, irrespective of camera version is nothing short of astounding by standards of only a few years ago. It's a phone, not a camera, but does take amazingly good pictures for such a small sensor.

The second thing is a little bit of information on noise in photos. All sensors, CCD or CMOS have noise, is a law of physics -I won't bore you with the technical quantum science behind it, but trust me they do.

Camera firmware designers attempt to minimise noise by various noise reduction techniques. The trade off is resolution, i.e. less noise= less resolution. In all the shots I have taken with both the Sony and Samsung you can see that the S3 takes a less aggressive noise low light noise reduction approach than some..so the shots look a little nosier -but less detail is lost. Any of the shots can be post processed in Photoshop, or a noise reduction program like Noise Ninja to produce amazingly good, low noise pictures -albeit with a little less detail than the original. THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CAMERA, just the result of physical laws.

Anyone that over reacts and says the camera is 'crap' is talking crap themselves. They are just simply demonstrating their ignorance of imaging technologies.

And for those that are worrying whether they have a Sony or a Samsung camera, stop worrying, both are very good, the Samsung's one firmware takes a little less aggressive approach to noise reduction, but preserves a little more detail -although the real difference between the two is slight in my experience.

Anyone really interested in their camera quality will be grateful that the noise reduction approach isn't more aggressive, as this preserves more detail, and further noise reduction can be applied under the user's control, rather than the no going back result if the camera firmware itself applies greater noise reduction.

Summary - just enjoy your S3 - it's got a damn good camera, whether Sony or Samsung that's capable of producing amazingly good shots under almost any condition -AND gives room for further image improvement if you want to get into post processing.
[Galaxy S III General] jody2k:
By the way, shooting in landscape mode gives superb results! (Dont know if its placebo but its adds litle extra crisp in my pics) i will add some results later ;)
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
As much as I love your post - I have to say....saying "doesn't matter of which module" is like saying:

The sony sensor on your SLR is the same as the one in a samsung handheld 5pgxl camera.

I know the camera takes great photos, but i just felt it could be a little better - or put in a better way " a step up to the s2, rather than a trade off in certain areas (low-light)

Overall I'm happy with the S3, don't get me wrong, its just that some aspects could have been improved/looked at in greater depth.
[Galaxy S III General] njtroncoso:
The lens is what matters...and the processor behind it!
[Galaxy S III General] jody2k:
Tested some crisp shots in landcape mode
[Galaxy S III General] limeaid:
Most useless post ever. 7 paragraphs to say absolutely nothing. Some of us are concerned about the camera quality on the gs3 . There are definitely some issues going on. If you don't want to take part in the discussion, don't. But don't tell the rest of us "just to enjoy the s3" as if that's going to solve all the problems.
[Galaxy S III General] limeaid:
I saw this picture in the other thread and I agree with you. It's quite an amazing shot with a camera phone. I am also quite certain that my gs3 with zd firmware and samsung sensor would not come close to producing these results...
[Galaxy S III General] Product F(RED):
The S2 took MUCH better pictures. Look at my shots from my Epic 4G Touch. The S3 has a TON of noise and doesn't preserve any detail when zooming in at all:
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
That's correct. I can confirm this.It's better than HDR.

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I have zd firmware as well. I bought the phone

based on pictures like this and reviews.

I'm totally frustrated.

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S2 has definitely a better camera than S3.

Samsung has really messed up with the camera.
[Galaxy S III General] jody2k:
So what do we have:

Best modus for taking pictures by DAY: Landscape mode (giving more crisp than default or HDR mode) => Found something new: In low light situations this mode is giving ****loads of noise (more than the default settings) so use this modus only by day/in good light conditions.

Yes S2 was taking more details, I went to thailand and cambodia last year and I took some amazing pics ^^

Still I believe the S3 camera modele(s) aren't crap and it's just a matter of software/firmware.
[Galaxy S III General] ixon2001:
If anybody got the new update today, there is also a camera update hidden again mine now on GDFF02, not sure if ZD also has the update.

Apparently ZD been updated to.
[Galaxy S III General] jody2k:
Any improvements ?
[Galaxy S III General] eyecon82:
what new update?

the only one I have received is the security update early last week
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
my god - i was going to post this several hours ago and forgot!

HOW COULD I FORGET!

YES!

GDFF02 is out.

I will be taking pics, and show comparisons + dump.

EDIT:

UPDATED.

Taken loads of pics - will be taking GDFF02 pics now
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
I just updated the cam frimware to ZDFF02.

I took some shots with night mode and i can confirm

that there is an improvement definitely.

Noise is mush less now.
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
that's exaggerating I feel.

I'm looking at my pics now - hard to tell the difference.

EDIT: Had to add to this post, as max limit of uploads is 20 pics!

Attached in THIS post is GDFF02 pics

EDIT2:

If you crop the lamp pic - it makes a nice wallpaper :D!
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
Right!

Here are the pics - all numbered in order, all taken with the same settings, and tried to keep my hand as stable as possible and tried to take them in the same position with the same focus point (was quite hard)

Conclusion:

I don't really see a difference.

GDFE01 in this post (old FW)
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
People with ZDFE02 firmware :

There is a new camera fw is ZDFF02.

I took several shots in low light conditions.

With HDR, night mode and with flash.

All i can say is that noise is less now and the overall software

of the camera has been improved.

There is an improvement of 40%-50%.

Try it out.
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
pic taken with new fw ZDFF02.

low light conditions.
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
I have pictures of both above...

I don't feel it's improved by that much...if anything.

But anyway - each to their own :D!
[Galaxy S III General] Olywa123:
I have ZDFE02 and all these pictures (by Totallydubbed and foxy) look far better than I'm able to acheive in low light, but how did you guys get the update?

When I go into the cam firmware settings it says I have the latest - did you update something else on the phone first or just the cam firmware (maybe it's region specific and not reached the UK yet) :(

Thanks,

Olywa

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Ahhh, nevermind guys, I see you have to update via kies first to get the cam firmware update, just found this thread...http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=28375980

Thanks to Totallydubbed and foxy for highlighting that there was an update - will give it a go :)

Olywa
[Galaxy S III General] sqlpro:
I took many pics with latest firmware (ZDFE02) but i see no improvement atleast on noise side.

i believe it does not matter which scene mode you use as long as ISO does not go beyond 200 you'll get clean (noise free) result. looks like thats max ISO it can handle in terms of noise.

BTW night mode works nice BUT you and subjects need to be very still otherwise you get blurry pics.

may be we are better off under expose then improve pic in some editing software. thats much easier than correcting noise later.

AND i gone thru all pics in this thread and i feel GDF firmware seem to produce less noise pics than ZDF or atleast i can produce with my phone.
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
The latest firmware is ZDFF02 . it was on air few hours ago.

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You upgraded from GDF? is that correct?
[Galaxy S III General] sqlpro:
already ! we were updated to ZDFE02 to two days ago!

i just tried it on the phone it says no updates probably like other poster said need to try with kies.
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
From GDFE01
[Galaxy S III General] giovag7:
maybe that from gdfeo1 to GDFF02 there is almost no difference

and instead from ZDFE02 to ZDFF02 there is a lot of improvement?

You don't say that zdf02 was the responsibility of the worst shots?

So major improvement came for it?
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
The improvement is from ZDFE02 to ZDFF02.
[Galaxy S III General] giovag7:
You think this is the reason because Totallydubbed (he has gdfxx) see no difference instead other with Zdf02 yes?
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
Has anyone seen this fw update?

ZDFC13.
[Galaxy S III General] danielmm88:
Would it be possible to just buy a replacement rear camera part for the S3, switch it out with the sony one and put the samsung one inside the phone?
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
i dont have the update!
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
Could anyone with ZDFF02 upload the bin file in etc/firmware, thanks :)
[Galaxy S III General] TotallydubbedHD:
is that what it is?

hat .bin file?

That's the dump or?

As this says 25th of June....on the .bin file.
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
pic taken with new fw ZDFF02.

flash on, everything else normal.

very low light conditions.
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
I have no idea tbh, just wanna try sth :)
[Galaxy S III General] NoOneCanHelpMe:
pics with flash are okay, but without one...GOD HELP US ALL :D
[Galaxy S III General] foxy4270:
I have the bin file.

How can i upload it?