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[General Questions and Answers] netomel:
contacts are weird in execution?

camera does not look like ics, I had to install ics camera

stock homescreen behaves like gingerbread. I had to install apex launcher

I install camera fv5 it froze and reboot the phone.

the first time I flashed some caracters kept apperaring on the screen AFTER I root using the CWR and super user already used in gingerbread place in sdcard beflore the flash.

So far its working great with the issues mentioned before. the phone has some problems at times i need to reboot.
[HTC Sensation XL] tleibran:
Hey all,

I have just recently signed up for the forums (seems like an ideal place for Telephony enthusiasts and Developers alike) and look forward to getting dirty in some decent hardware/sft/tek discussion.

Previously I had been with a provider who was offer 'SIM Only Plans' flt rate, without the contract lock-in, which served my purposes well. However, within this last week i decided to downgrade my plan to something like ~5$p/month and managed to get a HTC sensation XL for nil :)
[HTC Sensation XL] chaki-:
Great! Welcome to the little community of the Big "white" Boss ;)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] xneolithicspx:
Is there anyone working on a tablet ui mod for aokp/cm9? I know starskyrob was working on paranoid Android project but there hasn't been any word on it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] alphadog32:
No man, sorry. Maybe you can try from another phone and MAYBE it will work. Maybe.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] xneolithicspx:
I have tried from a different phone just the mod and it borkes play store
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] alphadog32:
Have you tried different play stores?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] S7UDi0:
So you've tried the skyrockets Rom? With rotation fix? I've thought about it. Love that from though....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] casonswag:
Did everything else work tho??
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] xneolithicspx:
Yes I used aokp m5 files on build 36 I think and every thing else was fine aside from aokp bugs
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djtreo:
Anyone has any info on this phone with regards to custom ROM development?

Will be highly appreciated.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djtreo:
Just like to bump on this thread.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djtreo:
Bumping on my thread again. Any good-hearted devs out there? :D
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djtreo:
Again....bumping on this thread. ;)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djtreo:
bump again...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djtreo:
and again...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chr0nicDreamz:
Does anyone know the exact recovery partition ID? mmcblk????? I hate using odin to flash updated recoveries.. cwm touch is available for the tab and its only a .img..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoshDubstep:
Hey guys. I have an Australian galaxy note and it's running android 2.3.6 and the model number is GT-N7000B

Pic related, it's the about phone screen

Any help would be great!

Inb4 updated to 4.0 because 2.3.6 is the latest android for this model
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devid801:
Watch this guide: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1530501
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Braxos:
Stay on gb. My advice
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] REVHE4D:
Are you crazy, pics is so much better, if you love only utilizing 1 core then stay with gingerbread, but if you want to use the full power of the phone you want ICS, I used Odin and flashed my n7000B Telstra to a stock Pics from and am really happy now with this phone.

I came from a HTC sensation with ICS to the note and was really dissapointed with the note, but now I have ICS on the note I am happy as hell, the phone is super smooth.and battery life is great I get a full day easy with GPS off and email sync set hourly.

BTW I did not root my device yet.
[Android General] mutineer33:
This writer seems to think so.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/16/2801916/home-baked-roms-its-going-to-blow-up-sometime-soon

Actually he makes some valid points (and I use a Custom ROM myself).

Absolutely ZERO disrespect intended to the ROM developers here --- we should appreciate their very hard work and opening our devices up to so many other options and enhancing performance.

But after reading this article, what do people think about the safety of ROM flashing .... not in terms of bricking the device (we all know the risks), but in terms of:

A) Unintentionally opening the device up to exploits due to poor coding etc

B) A rogue developer intentionally exploiting to capture data for profit

Are you comfortable doing bank transactions on a rooted android device w/ custom ROM?
[Android General] EoinCuinn:
Interesting question

I have never even thought about what I do and don't do on my custom devices.

Forget the internet banking etc, there's also the entire gamit of email, social sites, work email etc etc

Just as well I trust you all!
[Android General] M@31:
This is definitely a concern......

Here in Korea though, the banking apps do not allow you to use them with a rooted device.....So each time, I have to unroot my device in order to do banking.

I do not know, however, if once I root again it would give the developer or hackers access to that data......

Something to think about as well though!
[Android General] gentle_giant:
I realized: I never looked for an app that investigates security issues on a smart phone.

perhaps someone with knowledge in this field can give a few hints to usefull apps?

and yes, "I am with stupid too"

Motorola Defy+ with Quarx's CM9 nightlies and most of the time I still have no clue to what I am doing precisly.

But on the bright side: I do not use my phone for banking, there's nothing to "bank around" :(
[Android General] mutineer33:
Hmmm -- I had never considered that banks would block it -- have not tried yet. You make a good point about what remains on the device later -- at a minimum clearing browser history is a good idea -- but even that could be circumvented with a devious enough approach.
[Android General] mutineer33:
I agree. From what I have seen most of the "advanced" posters here dismiss antivirus packages as a waste of time and money and they could well be right. Still I have not been able to find any real discussions on the risks the article I posted raised. It would be great if some of the more "expert" members here could offer their views.

I am loving my rooted G-Note with custom ROM ---- but I do not really have confidence in Android and its various hacks yet. Unfortunately the alternatives are rather poor.
[Android General] mcord11758:
I would say I agree and disagree with the article.

For me personally, when I decide to get all flash happy with my Android devices, I tend to not put any information regarding banking or credit cards. Logically, at least to me, the concerns sited in this article do occur to me. Then again, to be honest I do not put any of this information on my non jail broken company secured and encrypted I phone either. Call me paranoid.

Where I disagree with the article is in the insinuation that using a stock ROM with apps downloaded from let's say th he iTunes store is really much more secure. If a baked ROM can be pulling information behind your back, and somehow bypass security measures written into a banking app, why could not a fart app some momo downloads to be the life of the party do the same?

Flyer
[Android General] sudkcoce:
I have been thinking about this ever since I've rooted my phone and flashed the first custom rom...

-and I still don't have a real answer.
[Android General] _Variable:
Thats why I prefer stock ROM ;)
[Android General] reversegear:
finally its your (user) wish, weather to use custom rom or stock rom.

none of the developers are forcing to use their custom rom.

rom development is hobby,passion, and part-time for some of developers.

my few words.pls correct me if I'm wrong
[Android General] mdfzhi:
Ever heard of pdroid? Droidwall?
[Android General] sudkcoce:
You are not wrong, but you are definitely off topic.
[Android General] m3adow:
This is so one sided. You can say the same about any OpenSource program with small userbases. Take any little Linux Distri, any small OSS and you get to this problem quickly. Most of us can't review the source code properly so we have to rely on others. But at least you CAN rely on someone. You can't rely on anyone at closed source programs.

That's why you use Truecrypt for encrypting your hard drive and not Bitlocker, that's why you should use a Linux Distri and not Windows and that's why i use OpenSource ROMs and not the closed source StockRoms and even try to have as much OpenSource Apps on my Phone as possible.

Just my 2 cents.
[Android General] votinh:
He has the points and those are sorely his.

Calling other ROM flashers idiots is ridiculous and not very nice. In fact, based on what he typed, he seems to be an idiot himself.

Now to other Rom flashers, as long as then understand the risk of doing so, they entitle and fully responsible for their actions, no need to teach them.

Security issue? I drive a car to a bad area, get off, windows still lower, not even care to lock the car. That is my choice.

Now I'm going to the very nice, high educated area, I choose to lock the car, put the steering-wheel lock on. Again, it's my choice. Home wireless network, I choose to set the password or not, it's my decision. I understand the risk of not doing that. And if I choose not to do that, it doesn't make me an idiot.

Next, not all baked ROM are based on leaked official one. CyanogenMod team is well-known and they based on the Google source code, ASOP, not a leak one from vendors.

So, if ROM flashers realize what source they use, they're all set.

Writing a long article with just one-minded lopsided thinking like this is pretty lame.
[Android General] gentle_giant:
Pdroid: looks very promissing but you need to be a programmer and only for Gingerbread.

Droidwall: from what I understand from it it is a kind of fine-tuning of your data traffic. Pdroid goes much, much further and I would prefer it.

A real shame I'm not a developper/programmer and also very happy with my custom ICS ROM.....

On the bright side; I like tweaking but not social networking or any other more "dangerous stuff" Just like I'm used on my PC.
[Android General] SifJar:
I've never bothered with a custom ROM, partly because I just realise that pretty much everything I could do with a custom ROM, I can do manually with a rooted phone. I don't like to install a package of software someone else thinks I should use, I prefer to pick and choose the stuff I want. Security concerns never really bothered me, I don't care too much about the security of my phone (I guess maybe some people would be annoyed at me if my contacts were stolen or something, but other than that there isn't really anything I care about on my phone). I never do online banking etc. on it, but that's just because that's something I do very rarely and only do when I'm at a computer anyway.

You don't need to be a programmer. All you do is get your ROM zip, run the PDroid patcher on the ROM zip, it'll give you a patch zip, flash the patch zip in recovery, install PDroid from market. And I think there are unofficial ports to ICS possibly.
[Android General] SocialReject:
Doesn't stop me from flashing custom ROMs.

Oh well...?

Sent from the future.
[Android General] mutineer33:
I though the article itself was a bit sensationalistic but at the same time I think changing the ROM in a system (not to mention giving root permissions to apps) is a lot more potentially intrusive than downloading apps from Itunes or Gplay.

Anyway I like my custom ROM setup but I sort of feel like I am whistling in the dark at times. I think a lot depends on how sophisticated we are as users.

Case in point:

When I flashed my ROM for the first time, I freaked out seeing a bunch of Chinese names every time I made a call to certain numbers. The good thing about XDA is if you search you can find anything about ROM issues and in this case I learned that this was due to the developer using the contacts part from the leaked Chinese ICS and it had something to do with a "Phone locator service" that could be disabled. Ok so I disable and go back to whistling in the dark --- but I have not been able to learn what the phone locator service is in the first place or WHY i had Chinese names showing in my calls.

As a relative Noob I can follow instructions from most of the generally well written instructions on XDA and not get into trouble --- but (rhetorically) do I really understand the background issues and risks with some of these things?

What is this phone locator service anyway? Why the Chinese Names and Locations in the call indicators?
[Android General] mutineer33:
Well you are right that we are all responsible for our own choices. I just think it is better for all that people can make as informed as choices as possible. That is why discussions like these can be good (even if the article was inflammatory).

To extend your analogy, maybe you think it is your choice to leave your car unprotected. But maybe your insurance company will disagree and try to teach you better? Maybe the police inform you to secure your car because you make more work for them when your car is stolen?

So as a car driver it is your choice, but many might argue that the community of car drivers needs to be educated on the risks of their behavior so that they can make more informed decisions. Then you benefit and the community benefits (keep insurance rates down, free up police resources etc.)

I hope I made sense
[Android General] MissionImprobable:
I'd rather take the risk and enjoy life than sit on the sidelines. Considering that all smartphones have vulnerabilities, stock or no, I'll take my chances. I also have a bit of faith left in humanity in general and more so some in communities like XDA and Rootz where the general idea is clearly that these are places for everyone to contribute to everyone else, not to come in and scam.

Let's be real: if someone comes through here and drops something that ends up defrauding other for every person involved in coding the malicious item there are ten more capable devs who will have the motivation to take them to task in most unpleasant ways. I, for one, would not put my butt on the line by choosing a dev forum to release or market my malware.
[Android General] mutineer33:
Yes --- I think the biggest security blanket here is strength in numbers. That is if someone does something screwed up it will be noticed quickly by people more experienced than the typical user. Maybe also a good idea not to be too early an adapter and avoid things that have not been already used and tested by many others. As a "noob" though I have no idea how many people will flash a given ROM (is it in hundreds? Thousands? or more?) nor how much scrutiny a ROM gets after it is released.
[Android General] zelendel:
Well this is where trust comes in. Most Roms are built off of stock roms or open source roms. Flashing custom roms carries many risks. That is why it was mostly done by people that could pick out things that were not right. I only flash roms that I build personally and then only built from open source bases. If a rom that is released is not based on stock and is closed source then no there is no way I can't trust it.

sent from my cell in Arkham
[Android General] rilorolo:
jep...

+1

---------- Post added at 11:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:22 AM ----------

Please correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it true that even a stock based ROM can contain exploits, introduced in tweaks and mods?

BTW. Already a year ago, malware was found specifically targetting custom ROM's. The vulnerability was found in the way most custom ROMs sign their system images.

http://blog.mylookout.com/blog/2011...alware-found-targeting-custom-roms-jsmshider/
[Android General] mutineer33:
Hmmm -- fair point and a bit scary. I think most of us are not anywhere near the capability of building our own ROMs. Cannot Custom ROMs based on stock also be made dangerous?
[Android General] mutineer33:
That is actually an interesting read. If true it also suggests that Android AVs do also have some value.
[Android General] rilorolo:
not quite

Not if you watch what you are doing. As you can read in the article, this threat was quite obvious:

"...surfacing in alternative Android markets..."

"...masquerading as a legitimate application, though a few extra permissions have been added."

If you WANT malware, download from unofficial markets and ignore permissions :eek:
[Android General] morganmf:
At one point I was concerned about it but after all, you do it (root and all the related stuff) obviously with intent so you have to face **** when it comes. :P Seriously speaking, if you use rooted android but still been hygienic in terms of installing of well-known, well-used apps, no using warez and using antimalware I suppose is bit more safe than not sticking to dose simple rules. Of course the nature of linux gives you the oportunity to exploit in case you are rouge/thief/scumbug but we users just have to be open-eyed. Just because the times are like that, not because of bloody root..:D
[Android General] Testraindrop:
Well thats why I usually use non-modded CM9, its completely open source, so any malicious code would be made public instantly, thats the good side of open source software.

You think stock roms are safe? Remember the data crawlers last year in stock roms (Carrier IQ)?^^
[Android General] leezrd:
I unity flash roms from developer i trust off open source. I flash sixstrings aokp version. Like it was said before strength in numbers, because of he wanted to (which i don't think he would) people would catch it
[Android General] mutineer33:
Of course the suggestions you make can reduce risk considerably; but still, the article does state that AV would have detected the malware.

Also not sure you can completely rely on Play-Store being 100% malware free -- and who is to say that a subsequent update cannot be configured to go to device directly with bad intentions?

Root Permissions can also be tricky, particularly for less experienced users. For example I have a live wallpaper (no longer used) that accesses location and messages --- both permissions are logical and explained by the developer but who is to say that such permissions are not used for other purposes as well?

In my case I took the risk because the LW has so many users --- but I admit this approach can be a bit lemming like.

My Galaxy Note is my first Android phone and I love it so far as well as what the custom UI I use has done for it but I really think that the vagueness in the way Android sets its permissions is the achilles heel.
[Android General] DD-Ripper:
The person who wrote that meant to say that if you frequently use banking apps, paypal, purchasing apps from market...etc...then CUSTOM ROM is not for you.

Custom Roms have many pros and cons but its us who decide : Whether to install it or NOT.

Sent from my GT-i9100 equipped with Grenade Launcher and Remote Explosives :D
[Android General] prboy1969:
Custom Roms are not for everyone. But in all honesty there are plenty of programs that can help with security. I think of it in terms of a PC. Either you use a security wall, or you don't. I do a TON of Backing, and Business over my devices. I use LOOKOUT for security on my devices. I have yet to have a security issue. Bottom line is there are precautions you can take on Custom Roms to ensure your security. Also keep in mind that on " Stock " Roms you have CIQ ;) . Oh wait they removed all of that :rolleyes: .
[Android General] nightfire37:
I +1 this. People that write open sourced programs aren't going to write a bit of code to steal your data so I am part of the "stupid crowd". My Samsung Galaxy Player 5 U.S. have GenericGinger along with Entropy512's kernal and I haven't seen any data leeching nor my CPU usage going up at all thanks to Micro CPU Monitor. Extremely one sided.
[Android General] kapybarus:
I am using official banking app from my bank on custom rom. It can t be abused physically because if you type wrong password you have to set up information with your credit card again. However could someone gets access to it with all these root and exploit stuff? Till now I wasn´t worried about it but I don´t want to risk.
[Android General] @non4:
WOW... scary s*** though it makes sense targeting root users, gonna use root explorer to check for suspicious apks cos I'm paranoid now :O also gonna think twice about warez, I may be poor but some scammer could make me penniless lol

Sent from the real world by hacking into the matrix
[Android General] daman215:
Ok so have anyone come forward in all the years people been flashing roms no,i remember some one posted a aticle like this back when the htc senstion came out,everytime a new phone come out one off these articles pops up. I think the phone companys/makers would stress this to us if it was a big risk,playstation network get hack more than android. Scared tactics you not safe anywhere people are scanning your pockets for your credit card numbers what antivirus your gonna get for that :laugh::laugh::laugh:
[Android General] cornelha:
A post like this is exactly why people freak out about permissions etc. We have been modding our devices for years now, go back into the windows mobile forums and have a look around to see when the 1st roms started appearing. The OSS movement has been around for ages now, linux has yet to take over your house or send pics of your kids to the CIA. It is articles like this that is the basis of anti-virus mega corporations. If you dont trust something, dont use it. Its really that simple. I have yet to fall prey to a malicious ROM builder/developer. For the most part, its enthusiasts who want to get the last drop of performance or functionality out of a device.

Apps like paypal and banking facilities come with built in encryption and do not store passwords in plain text on your device. If those developers/companies did, they would be in the same trouble Sony was no too long ago with they major cyber break in. Open Source email applications have been around for ages, even there, I have yet to hear of an app (mobile or desktop) that stole someones nudes his/her better/worse half sent/received. People with too much time on their hands and too little to keep themselves busy with sit and ponder the wiles of developers. Speaking as a programmer for a major Point of Sale company in my country, I know the type of security checks that are implemented by banks and even in house in small companies regarding EFT and even email.

Rest assured, unless you send your passwords/pins/nudes out unencrypted, you will be safe. It all seems a little much for anyone to believe/trust after reading such an article, but bare in mind the advice i give to our clients regarding anti-virus software and you will understand where i am coming from: "Anti- virus slows down your pc, keep your use out of holes, dont browse dodgy porn sites and only open mail you are expecting". In 9 years, I have only gotten a virus once, a client dropped off a database on a usb memory stick which needed urgent repairs and i neglected to look for the tell tale autorun.inf.

Why do I use this example? Because the same principles can be applied to your device "Dont install ALL the things, check it out first. Dont browse dodgy pornsites from your device and keep your device clean".

Sure we have seen the odd moron selling someone else's wares on Play Store, we have even seen mallware on Play Store. My point is just this, this community was built around modding our devices. If you take the time to browse through the older forums, you will see that many technologies and implementations that we see in device applications today have their roots right here, in our very own modding community.

Mod ALL the things!!!