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[Motorola Droid RAZR] droidxrooting:
Specifically? what is your situation? Overall you can keep your old fam share plan if you want to. But if you upgarde your unlimited will go away but you can still keep your old talk or text plan.

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Not anytime soon. I can guestimate for the next year or so you are good. Because all I hear from the top management that people who have unlimited data packages would be grandfathered.

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Wow are you a quote police or something?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] johnmagoo:
What about corporate accounts?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] droidxrooting:
New plan structure is not fully ready for corporate liable yet. But verizon is working on that. Will you be able to keep unlimited data package or not will depend on the agreement between your corporation and verizon. But my guess is sooner or later it will be eliminated. But I have seen corporate lines with the price plans that they had for 10 years and it has never been changed. So it will depend on many factors.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rothfest:
VZ specifically told me yesterday that when my term is up on the MAXXs I have I will no longer be grandfatherd into unlimted data... neither will you, even if you want to go month to month it will be on a data limited plan.

The plans are now totally based on bandwidth usage... unlimited talk and text and paid data shared by all devices on your account. Unlimted is not an option... 10GB is the cap.

I would verify with them... this was not announced until very recently, after the middle of may.

Q: What if I have an "unlimited data" plan? Can I keep it?

A: Yes, you can. But —and there's a big "but" here— Verizon will no longer let you move the plan to a new phone after June 28, unless you pay the full, unsubsidized price for it. For most smartphones that will add hundreds of dollars to the price. A subsidized Verizon iPhone 4S costs $200. The price you'll pay if you keep your unlimited plan: $650. (Verizon stopped signing up new customers for unlimited a year ago)

Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/news_a...ady-for-the-new-pricing-schemes#ixzz1yOcuRci8
[Motorola Droid RAZR] droidxrooting:
Dont believe everything you have been told. As of right now, if you do not sing a new contract after 28th of June. You can keep your unlimited data package. There is no word on contract expiration would take you unlimited plan away yet.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] orateam:
i think Verizion hasn't posted any commitment as to how long they will honor grandfathering and i don't think they will. They will revisit this once a few months go by of making profits on their tiered plans. After they see say 100,000 users paying $50 a month for 5 gigs. And seeing 100,000 users like me on unlimited paying $29 for the same, they will look at it like we are getting 3 gigs free and they might pull the plug. I think it depends on how much that space is worth it to them.

If there are only a hundred thousand unlimited users and the space they are getting for free becomes too valuable, they will live with the backlash. It all depends on how popular/unpopular the new tiered plans become. just my thought.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] johnmagoo:
Cool, thanks for the response
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tech_head:
This plan is not about paying for what you use.

If you don't use minutes you get stuck with paying for unlimited.

If you pay for 5GB and use less they don't give you a credit. My 3 smart phones exceed the new 8GB limit some months.

Some people cannot offset their use with WiFi especially if they stream because corporation have acceptable use policies as do schools and such. I never use WiFi because I pay for unlimited.

The plans are not a deal if you already have unlimited and use it that way. For years Verizon usher unlimited. Now that they see smartphones using more data than minutes they want you to pay.

How about I get a smart phone and use no data??

Will they allow that? No.

So it's not about being fair to customers, it's about them increasing their bottom line.

If anyone believes otherwise, I have some beach front property in the Florida Keys for sale.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] oildriller83:
First off....over 4G. Data and voice are not transmitted over the same network right? Isn't that how you're able to use voice and data at the same time? If that's the case, and Verizon being the largest 4G network and growing, then dropping calls because of data usage wouldn't be an issue. Secondly, how is a water or electric bill close enough to be compared as data? Its the principal of the fact for me. It's my data that I pay for, and should be up to me what I use it for, ie tethering or Netflix on my phone. So you're saying we should all lay down and not ***** about already paying to much for service, so the big red can make more money? I barely use 400 meg per month unless I'm traveling then up to 10 gig. Either way, I'll pay for my phones out right until the end of any grandfathering just to keep it. I'd rather have more than I need and not use it, than to have less and need more.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] muzik3k:
No, its the same analogy as the neighbor using all the water to refill his pool just because he can while everyone else has low pressure on their home because of him. This actually happens in the wireless world. Regardless of 3G or 4G, obviously in Verizon scenario only 4G data speeds would be affected.

In your case, you travel a few times a year and would rather pay more all year to keep unlimited rather than have your family plan pay a cheaper shared plan all year and when needed upgraded to 10GB for that month? makes no sense why would anyone do that. The shared data plans are cheaper and allow you to bump it up on the times you do need those 10GB rather than paying lets say $150 in just data year round on a family of 5 with 5 smart phones just to keep unlimited...that makes no financial sense for me.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Jaytronics:
F all the carriers telling us that they can not support the bandwidth. That is the biggest line of crap I have ever heard. Data once it hits the towers is piped through fiber lines. There is a ton of bandwidth there. And there is enough bandwidth in the wireless spectrum. Any one who states otherwise is either a fool or it trying to fool you. And the big boys are greedy ass hats that love to nickel and dime us. Our cell providers are no different than the government and the cable companies and others also. Instead of people so-called gouging data. The providers are just turning it around on us. And gouging our pockets. Because those of us that do use a big portion of data will get just that. It's like welfare. Some one has to pay for the other guys things. And no, I don't tether to my computers. I use to. But tablets and our cell phones thanks to our awsome devs can do almost everything our pc's can.

Just a bit of info, I use any where from 15-40 gigs of data per month. And that is because I stream music, email and watch shows and you tube channels that teach things that could be valuable info. I do tons of web reading also.

I drive all over New England for a living. So music or audio books are always being streamed to me. It is not hard to use that type of data. Especially if you are like me and can not afford cable TV, internet and other accessories in life. Heck, my wife and I struggle to pay for food, insurance, cell phones and our children's education.

You see, we home school our kids and that is not cheap. So, unlimited data on our cells is not a luxury it has come down to be almost like a necessity. Heck we can not even go to a public library in MA to take out books any more. Because our town decided that it didn't want to pay the taxes that would go up to keep our small one open. And Massachusetts libraries do not offer a pay for membership to MA residents. So we have to go to RI and pay to use some of there libraries. Again, not cheep. So as you can see, in even the rarest of circumstances. You can and will use a ton of data. And if my wife and I lose these unlimited data on our cells, we will end up paying VZW a ton more money than we do now. And that won't be able to happen. Because we don't have it to give. And please don't tell me to go to Sprint for there unlimited data. I have a work phone from my company on Sprint. It and any other phone from them gets zero signal here at home. I asked what to do abot signal to them. The CS rep said I could get an airwave or something like that. Told him I don't have internet at home. Scratch that. Lol. Any way, I'm done *****ing.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] oildriller83:
I travel way more than just a few times a year. And no where have I been, have I ever had any issues with the network or speed because of someone robbing to much of it. There is no bandwidth cap on how much the network can hold per month. If what you're saying is true, then everyone could be on a tiered plan, work out a day and time, and run bandwidth are the same time and slow eachother down. At home I consistently get 20mbs. At work (in an entire new state) on pioneer 4G they throttle Verizon back to a limit of 12 mbs. Chicago, Phoenix, Dallas, OKC, Pittsburgh, all the bigger areas I've been to, still have no noticeable differences. So I guess I'm slowing that network down by watching Netflix every day. BS
[Motorola Droid RAZR] orateam:
firstly, I don't know if your facts are correct. if you have a source, i'd like to see that 98% of unlimited users use that little. I do doubt that.

"pay for what you use"? sure, while you're at it, pay the cable company for every hour they broadcast to you. I'm sure they know how much t.v. you are watching. what's wrong with that? While we're at it, lets allow companies to make money on everything that is currently "unlimited" like the amount of time you actually spend in your hotel room, or amusement park.

Cmon, don't be such a pawn. We do pay for what we use, We pay a monthly bill which covers us for monthly use of our phones. It's not by the day, or hour, nor by the minute or kilobyte. It's funny how cell phone companies and other phone companies no longer charge us by the call. For THAT, they changed to unlimited. For data, which there is plenty of, they want the granularity of it.

Most people have fixed incomes, unless you do sales :), and our salaries dont vary from day to day. Nobody likes this kind of crap. If verizon forced me to this tiered plan, i would go to another company with unlimited data, if all cell companies went to tiered, then i would use mostly wifi like i did back in the pocket pc days. If they went tiered, i would only surf at home. If home plans went tiered, i would mostly stop surfing the net. In the end, i only have so much money a month i care to give to this activity. like all things we do, it is a measured expense. I can't give something i don't have and i have to think about what i'm giving up if any, in order to keep a certain expense like a cell phone data plan. If companies all want to be greedy, then they will start dropping like flies as they cannibalize each other.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Jaytronics:
I bet that VZW and all the other companies are willing to credit us on our un used minutes? I don't think so. They are looking for ways to gouge us. Yes they are in busines to make money. But they don't have to try to rape us of it. They, especially VZW are greedy idiots. Plain and simple. And most of there CS are fools. But, that is how the big guys want them to be. I actually had CS on the phone two day trying to get me to think a shared data for my wife and I. I told her what we use the phones for. And explained our big data usage other and she still tried to say that we could save money. Sure we could. Me 15-40 gigs a month. My wife 8-17 gigs per month. I bet VZW would love us tomove over to a shared plan. Lol! Ass hats.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Jaytronics:
To any of the cell companies reps or employees that are in here please note that I stated most and not all. I as well as others in here know that some of you have a brain. And we here like that. Also note that thereare some in here that work for those same companies and are trying to say dumb crap in here for what ever there agenda is. To those people. Piss off! Thank you and come again.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] droidxrooting:
Every company tries to make as much money as possible at any given time. There may be 1%or less people like you and me that are tech-inclined and use lots of data and we are the minority. Those CSR are trained to satisfy needs of majority. Isnt it how it works here in USA?

CSR will give you options that would satisfy 95% of the customers and if you did not like those options that does not mean that CSR is bad or the company is bad.

If Verizon was that bad/evil you would not be a verizon customer. Which means that you like something about it that you keep giving verizon your hard earned money.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Chase.Barnett:
I just got off the phone with Verizon and spoke with 2 reps.

I'm on a family plan right now and our bill is about 150-160 a month.

1400 minutes/unlimited text and data.

My average data consumption is right around 5GB a month.

A) I was told by both reps that Verizon will not change my unlimited data as long as I don't change my plan what so ever or upgrade.

B) I found out that they will not be selling the S3 at storefronts until the 28th in an effort to push people to the new plan. (Unfair business practice?) I was going to order an S3 today so I could be locked into a contract with unlimited data for the next 24 months.

I think we can all agree that verizon is giving us more of what we don't need and less of what we do need/want (data).

But at the end, my conclusion was that with the new plan, I would have unlimited minutes, texting and 6GB of data.

Price? 140 a month plus tax. A few bucks cheaper than my current bill and I'll still have enough data to get me through the month.

It seems like the people that are going to get the short end of the stick are single person plans with a smartphone.

Has anyone else came to the same conclusion?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] evltwn72:
If you have an upgrade on one of your lines, you can pre-order the SIII online and still keep your unlimited data plan. But you have to pre-order it before the 28th. This has already been confirmed by VZW. The phone isn't even shipping before 7/10, but you will keep your unlimited data.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Chase.Barnett:
I've only had my razr 6 months but I wouldn't mind something new.

I'm sure Moto or HTC will be dropping another "flagship" in the coming months that will best the S3. Maybe I'll just wait for the next big thing or pick an S3 up in craigslist in a few months.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] droidxrooting:
evltwn72 is right. I work for verizon and I can confirm that. The only think I will let you know that. You can go up or down the price plan and still keep unlimited data as long as price plan is the same tier. For example you are on talk/text 1400min you can go down to 700min talk/text plan with out any consequences.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rothfest:
Remeber when that 33.6 modem offered all the bandwidth you would ever need?

Data usage experiences parabolic increases. That is what this is setup for. Syncinging all your pics to G+ or other backup, spotify at an actual good quality... that alone gets you to 3-5 GB...

Its a setup. VZ is also looking at voice over LTE.

I spoke to investor relations yesterday and he ASSURED ME that when I want a new phone I will pay an unsubsidized price OR lose unlimited.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] seloewy:
Am I required to activate an upgraded phone when signing contract?

I have 4 smartphones plus 1 voice only on our current unlimited data family plan. Three of the 4 Droids have just been upgraded in past 2 months. My son (4th phone) is eligible for an upgrade and I'm anxious to upgrade him before 6/28 to lock in the upgrade discount and retain unlimited data.

Son is traveling abroad and his Droid World Phone's line is currently suspended without billing. Since he wasn't using his Verizon phone since January till he gets back in August, there was no reason to pay the data plan.

So, my question: can I buy a new 4G phone from Verizon using his eligible discount, sign a new 2 year contract, but NOT actually activate the phone? I could have Verizon activate upon purchase, then temporarily suspend the phone again until he returns - but I'd like him to have the option to re-instate the phone that he's in posession of in case of an emergency. Not sure that would be an easy thing to do from abroad. This isn't about saving the $60 from 2 months of the data plan, but about giving son flexibility with the device in his backpack.

Seems like if there's a way to lock him in (and pay for) another contract now without having to physically activate the phone, we'd be ahead.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] neyenlives:
Didnt read the whole thread, but the truth is they can do anything they want anytime they want. They give up the ability to charge fees sure, but in the end they can change anything anytime and the consumer can take it or leave it. Dont you know VZW has a team of bean counters doing nothing but calculating worst case losses if they were to yank all unlimited data today, and it is recalculated for projected contract conversions, so that they already know, even if worst case everybody that was effected left them, exactly at what point they can pull that trigger and not even look back.

Trust me, its coming, every time they make changes and do this stuff the number look better and better for them.
[General Questions and Answers] eicriolo:
First of all, I apologize for the English, I don't know how to write english very well.

I not know that I can put this here but:

I have a problem with programming for Motorola Defy+ (MB526).

I am creating an advertising application. That should show the user's location on the map. As the documentation I created my listener and added an overlay with my location, in all other Android devices my application works fine, including the Motorola phone Defy (MB525), but in (MB526) apparently it does not receive a differente coordinate.

I told about this error into another sites and I'm not get a response.

Forum Motorola and stackoverflow with a name Problem with programming for Motorola Defy+ (MB526) get coordinates

I need know, anyone know how to tell me what reason the google maps application is located perfectly (without GPS) under the same conditions as the TesteMapActivity application can not?
[Nook Touch Themes and Apps] eXtremeDevil:
I have tried the built-in Browser, the two Opera browsers and also Easy Browser. All of them crash in the first ten seconds. Is there any browser that actually works with my Nook Touch? Thanks in advance.
[Nook Touch Themes and Apps] apeine:
If your NST (with or without glowlight) was properly rooted, Opera should be your browser of choice. I've been running it a very long time with no problem at all. All others will be lacking functionality.
[Nook Touch Themes and Apps] eXtremeDevil:
I guess it's properly rooted, I think I followed the instructions in this web. Is there a solution or anything? Or a explanation at least? As soon as I open it closes itself...

EDIT:

I've tried uninstalling and installing, crashed at the beginning... actually it crashed just inmediately after the "Welcome to Opera Mini" screen...

EDIT 2:

OK, now it crashes only when loading a page, but not at the welcome page (the one with some page links in images)...

EDIT 3:

OK, I figured out something. The version that crashes is Opera Mini. I've been trying Opera Mobile (which I had to add manually because I couldn't find it in the Market) and it seems to be OK. Was that the problem? Thanks.
[Nook Touch Themes and Apps] dxcore35:
Try to:

Fix permissions

Clear dalvik cache
[Nook Touch Themes and Apps] eXtremeDevil:
I don't need to, it's working now, but I wanna know if my problem was because of using the "Mini" version of Opera instead of the "Mobile" one (which by the way wasn't on the market when I searched for opera).
[Nook Touch Themes and Apps] cbay:
Yes, opera mini crashes for me..but opera mobile works fine.

Regarding not finding opera mobile in market...

Install searchmarket to be able to search in market.

Alternatively you can go to play.google.com on a computer

and remotely install an app on the nook.

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[Nook Touch Themes and Apps] -TheJoker-:
I prefer from all the browsers the dolphin HD,never had a problem
[Nook Touch Themes and Apps] drmxmyt:
i use opera mobile for default. and have dolphin installed in case of flashed content. they both does their work well.
[Nook Touch Themes and Apps] osowiecki:
Try "Maxthon browser".

P.S. My NST came back from the US. (finally I'm back)
[Nook Touch Themes and Apps] enrsil1983:
Dolphin HD always crash, but Dolphini Mini works perfectly.
[Nook Touch Themes and Apps] osowiecki:
Sleipnir web browser

Today I discovered Sleipnir Web Browser for Android.

After playing with browsers settings it seems that everything works like it should.

Gestures work, it does not crash even with multiple tabs opened etc..

http://www.fenrir-inc.com/us/android/apps/sleipnir-mobile.html

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.fenrir.android.sleipnir
[Nook Touch Themes and Apps] FreyaBlack:
UC Browser! :victory:

UC Browser works really, really well!

Of course the side buttons don't work despite an option for volume control scrolling but other than that it works really really well.

I've tried a few. Skyfire works slightly better than opera mini. I tried Dolphin and I'm really not sure what the developers are smoking but I don't want any of it. I suspect it rots the brain.

but UC browser works great. I'm running 9.x and its fantastic but there is also a UC browser mini that is less fantastic but smaller but I much prefer the full version.

It's the browser with a squirrel logo.

I think I downloaded it from 1stMarket as I can't get play to work and the amazon app store isn't supported in the UK.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SecUpwN:
Guys, I'm searching for a fully fledged CM9 for the HTC EVO 3D where the 3D camera, bluetooth and all the other stuff will work perfectly. Where to get it from? Other custom ROM recommendations?

SecUpwN
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] TexasBlack:
I really like my note ....but im i also luv the 7.7...so im asking for a opinion from you guys....is it worth the trade.....
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] vegaman:
This belongs in general not development...

Anyway, I prefer the size of the 7.7 screen, and the fact that it's not pentile. But the stylus and ICS make the Note very attractive.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] golfinggino:
I have them both the note is better for phone functions and the 7.7 is better for tablet functions, easy answer buy them both and while your at it you might as well get an asus prime so you also have a 10 inch tablet !
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] johnnobts:
I have them both but only using my 6800 now.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] TexasBlack:
Thanks for all the input ive been looking for the perfect solution i like the tab and want big screen plus make calls.

Do you think its worth a trade . .would it be pretty even .
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] johnnobts:
Only thing making me keep my note is just as a backup. also really wanting ics...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] evil_penguin:
keep your note with you please.

Its not that tab is not good,

but note has good developer support, while this tab has very poor developer support.

Even it has less support from samaung itself very less updates, where as note has good samsung support.

i will advice you to not to trade your device for this.

Its your choice.

Good luck ;)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] kable:
I would recommend sticking with the Note if you are into custom ROMS or ICS.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] TexasBlack:
thanks for all yalls help ...hopefully i can stumble upon a INT version pretty cheap and get that one .....and patiently wait for the note 2....
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] TexasBlack:
now should i get the 7.7 since its been annouced that ics is coming ....btw anyone interested in trading 7.7 for a note ....