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[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrMrMr111:
I'm after a car mode. I seen it on youtube for another phone and it looks great, giving you big icons etc.

I have an S3 and know its got a driving mode, but it doesn't seem to do anything. I have a car holder that I use in the car, but its not an official one or anything, just a stick on the windscreen one with no power.

Anyone help
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FadeFx:
Try carHome ultra, but its trial ware, u need to buy licence key after 30 days. However, its worth the money. Too bad Google car home does not support ics.

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[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrMrMr111:
What is Google car home? Is it the default, inbuilt car mode for Android but only activated when plugged into a dock?

I'll have a look at that app thanks, the D3 has a specific driving mode toggle but think this just says name off caller our something
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Hey guys. I am creating this thread to assist Asus in identifying the apps related to the I/O issues, and how to resolve them. The majority of the Asus beta testers are not having the same issues that some are having, so it is not easy for Asus to come up with a fix to resolve the problems such as screen flickering, SOD, browser/general lag and gaming issues. The issues seems to stem from how the I/O scheduler allocates cpu usage for each app that requires background processes, so it's harder for Asus to solve this issue as not all Primes are running the same apps/system "enhancers'. Please take a few seconds to take a screenshot and/or list all your running processes, and list the current issues that you are having with your Primes. Also, as requested, please also go to settings/apps, running. Then after grabbing a screenshot, select the "Show cached processes" in upper left corner as this information can also prove to be very useful to Asus. Once we can determine the common app(s) running for those who are having issues, the easier it would be for Asus to pinpoint the problems. Since Demandarin is in direct contact with Gary, he can forward this info to him. This will be extremely helpful.

Also, please don't post how you shouldn't have to do this, as it should work already. If you don't want to help fix your Prime, then dont post here. There are some with real issues, and there are some who while they do have issues, also like to troll just to keep the flames burning. Instead of us continually posting about the issues we are having, let's take two minutes to try and resolve them. It will also be great for those with NO issues to also post here, so we can see what processes they have running compared to those WITH issues.

For my Prime, I do not have ANY flickering, rebooting or gaming issues anymore. My running apps according to my Prime are as follows-

-Settings (of course)

-Apex launcher

-Volume+

-Rotate

-NVCPL Service (Android process)

-com.asus.keyboard(android service)

-Google Services

-Google maps

-Asus Sync

640mb of free memory

Hopefully this thread can be made into a sticky, thank you all for your time.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
PM sent to Demandarin to pass on the info posted here to Asus
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I read your pm. once this gets rolling, ill forward it. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Thanks Demandarin. This would be great for not only Asus, but all of us. Besides Assisting Asus in identifying the I/O issues, if there are a few misbehaving apps(which I bet is a BIG cause of some issues), this thread can help pinpoint it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rebelwithoutacause:
Here is a screenshot of all the processes/apps running in the background on my Prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Running process... this changes routinely depending the app being used. Also, if you go that route, you should basically ask everyone to list ALL apps that each individual has installed.

Also, you should ask for static data on background process & app that are causing each issue. As far as I understand.. with absolutely diverse behavior of Transformer Primes... it's nearly impossible to obtain such static data. That & with .28 update... it isn't easy to replicate all the issues. They happen sporadically... and randomly.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Thank you for your assistance. Can you also list the issues that you are having?

Thanks again
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
They do, but their are some apps that are constantly running and/or restarting. Also, apps that are not running are not required as they are not using cpu or being allocated in the I/O Scheduler.

I understand what you are saying, but again, since Asus is not using a large beta testing group, it will help them to see what issues each poster is having, and the apps that they are currently running. This really takes not time to post, but if it helps, then we cll can enjoy our $500+ tablets right?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
You should ask for background process as soon as they reboot (but most likely, all the basic ones will be shared by all).

After that... background process after the initial reboot once those "few" apps that restart & changes and etc... I for one.. have no idea how you will obtain this information nor how credible it actually will be.

Also, to capture background process when "issues" do arise...

And since they are sporadic, you will need "data" from over a long stretch of period for all "data" & information on all APPs installed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dalew729:
BCO, .28, not rooted, 32gb, keyboard dock

Do not have any flickering, ANR's, rebooting, plays hd movies great (mp4), about 5 hours of battery life with constant use (tablet only, no dock). I do have an occasional pause when scrolling internet (Opera Mobile).

Running apps:

Settings

Lookout

Tripit

NvCPL Service

com.asus.keyboard

Google Services

Maps

Asus Sync

Ram: 358MB used, 631MB free
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Thank you! Seeing the running processes for people with NO issues as well as people who do is great as the different processes can be compared.

Also, thing to note is that I also have the same amount of free memory as you do.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
no, we need the background processes that have been running, there is no need to only request processes after a fresh reboot as the app(s) in question might not be running at that time.

While I appreciate your info, let's keep this thread on topic of what is requested. If you do not want to provide the info, then there is no need to post here. XDA is about solving issues, not just complaining about them.

Thanks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
I'm not sure if you understand how I/O scheduler works. Here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I/O_scheduling

To get some "credible" data... you should ask for "factory reset" & background process info. after that... & how it performs.

And after that, I/O performance of each "app" & how it gets prioritizes in the background process... & how it effects the system.

But with extremely diverse behavior of each Prime from BK/BC batch to whatever C batch that it is released...

Simply getting background process of one "period" isn't going to do anything.

Edit: And I won't post anymore in this thread.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kdn102:
Why doesn't ASUS just buy the problem Primes from us and replace them? Then they solve two birds with one stone: they have Primes to test and the people with problems get a new prime.

Of course, if it is truly just a problem with certain apps then replacing the Prime won't help the end user, other than let them know that ASUS is taking this seriously.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] whycali:
CurrentWidget aint worth a damn otherwise but it does do a good job of logging all applications if you set up the log correctly.

com.android.email;com.manor.currentwidget;com.android.systemui;com.android.phone;com.nuance.xt9.input;com.google.process.gapps;system;android.process.acore;com.asus.filemanager;com.android.launcher;com.nvidia.NvCPLSvc;com.dropbox.android;com.google.android.apps.maps:NetworkLocationService;com.asus.DLNA;com.asus.pcsynctool:auth;com.asus.keyboard;com.mobisystems.editor.office_registered:search;youtube.download.helper.v1;com.facebook.katana;

since .28 I have been introduced to

screen flicker

google search will just crash on occasion if I start typing on my keyboard

taskbar hopping

all can be fixed with a soft reset until whatever happens to offend my prime starts up again.

I will post a log from current widget if my prime gets the shakes again.

By the way: I have never seen an anr on any app since browser2ram
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TBacker:
Might I suggest that looking for specific apps causing / having issues may not be the correct course of action for Asus?

Most of the research done by fairly knowledgeable end users points to a common issue - the extremely slow write performance of the main device storage.

I'm sincerely hoping that this isn't headed down the workaround road. If the I/O were fixed, the app lag issues would be fixed, and Asus would have a lot of very happy and content Prime users.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] whycali:
I agree with the first sentence but am pretty sure its not slow write causing screen flicker
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TBacker:
Agreed - and that issue needs to be resolved.

The lags and hesitations, however, are affecting everyone to some degree, in a way that more heavily impacts productivity and enjoyment. I would venture that it's the biggest current issue.

Surely Asus can run read / write tests internally and track down a cause. They just need to be properly motivated....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tempie007:
Its good to see initiatives to send stuff to asus, i will wait for problems to occur, and will make a screenshot when it happens. Although i dont see relation to background apps.

- One of my issues is that the stock browser is slow as hell, crashes and gives ANR messages.

The fact that CFQ IO scheduler improves the browser and the fact that browser2RAM resolves it in total , combined with the really bad benchmark results on writes to internal sd, to me makes clear that this is caused by the slow internal memory. This is a structural problem, it does not matter what background process is running.

- Further CFQ io scheduler improves overall stability, less ANR, less lockups while installing Apps. I guess ASUS is able to install an app and browse the web at one time? Also i am pretty sure that there are asus employees who have old android flagship phones to compare.

Again i see no relation to which apps are running in the background.

Asus needs to look at what people in these forums all ready achieved. Motley with his kernel, wooky with his ROM, the sqlite thread, browser2ram and so on.

There isnt an App that causes all this! Problem lies at OS/driver/hardware level!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Blairware:
Edit: removed rant/concerns as correctly identified by op

OP, as long as we are trying to identify what currently running/in memory, could we ask that people go to settings/apps, Running. Then after grabbing a screenshot, select the "Show cached processes" in upper left corner (this is new to .28, is it not?) In any event, it could prove useful, and people are right there anyway.

Here are my 2: First is running apps, second is cached processes

My issues are ANR's from Browser, SOD (None yet on .28 ) and Games that stutter and freeze (even with the OPS Destroying all activities) as I leave them, and Background Process Limit) I DO have BETTER results with Background Processes limited to 1, but search fails and a few apps will not run. I have compromised with 2 and sometimes 3 background processes for a "decent" improvement, in most cases.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
While I can honestly agree with you guys on the statements about these things should of been fixed already, and your compliments (lol), please do not post these complaints here. This thread is just for what it states. If you don't want to provide the info, then you do not have to, but please go to the other threads for complaints/issues. I understand the frustration, but i dont want this to become a why why thread, its for troubleshooting and troubleshooting ONLY please.

I will ask the mods to monitor/clean up all post that are not related to the thread.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] AWhistler:
my issue

"Stock TF201"...not rooted, no special launcher. Static wallpaper, pic enclosed of running apps. My issue is bad screen flicker. Steps to reproduce:

1. Launch Firefox Beta.

2. Browse XDA-Developers

3. Try not to go crosseyed as text starts jumping around.

EDIT: Since my other post with more info got deleted, I'll add it here. I know Firefox Beta is slow and likely bloated, but it shows my problem consistently...likely because it is slow. The download is missing again from Google Play. Firefox beta is version 14. Firefox is version 10. Google Chrome Beta used to render incorrectly and was quirky, so I used Firefox Beta because it rendered everything correctly. With .28, Chrome Beta is fast and renders correctly, so I switched.

The problem with the Prime in my opinion is OS related, not App related, because app behavior changes when the OS changes. This exposes bugs in apps, or creates new bugs when the functions in the libraries change behavior. It also isn't hardware to me because GPS used to work for me, and now just doesn't.

Blackbox ad hoc testing is my friend. After several years, I have learned what to look for.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Thanks for the info an the laugh lol. All the info will be reviewed once we have a few more postings. This info can help Asus replicate the issues based on the info provided an hopefully identify at least part of the software/app related issues that trigger the problems.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sputnik767:
You hit the nail on the head here. All of this talk about background processes is pointless in the wake of what we already know. If you minimize access to internal memory in certain applications, stability and usability is greatly improved, and from my own observations, processes that don't rely on internal memory are fast and fluid. Not to mention that we all know about the very serious slowdowns that happen when an app is being installed, and these things don't happen on other devices. I have verified that this does not happen on my current Samsung Galaxy S 2 and my previous HTC Evo 4G.

I would like to bring up 2 points for consideration. Keep in mind that I am not a computer programmer and my knowledge of these things is extremely limited.

One: flashing a ROM through recovery seems to be pretty quick, compared to for example installing an app. I would say that ROM flashes are equally fast on both the Prime and my Galaxy S 2. Is it safe to say that maybe this is a purely OS issue, and that the memory itself is decently fast when it's not being bottlenecked by the OS? Is there any way to benchmark the speed of the internal memory without the OS running?

Two: if anyone here has been involved in Evo 4G development, one of the way they get the device to run ROMs that require more memory than is available (all ICS and Sense 3.0 Roms) is by partitioning the external SD card to an ext4 partition and fat32 partition, and installing the ROM onto the SD card ext4 partition. As far as I know, this is how it works, or it may split between the SD card and internal memory, but I believe the SD card is the main source. The Evo only had like 400 mb of internal memory. In my personal experience, if I used a Class 10 SD card, the speed is indistinguishable from the internal memory. However, from me playing with a Class 10 card on this device, copying files was impossibly slow. I realize that we can't mount an external SD via recovery at this point, but if a class 10 card does not perform like a class 10 card in this device, it is further evidence of a software/kernel issue, vs a hardware issue.

Basically, I am just throwing out ideas of how we can potentially narrow this down. Obviously if this is a an inherent problem with very poor internal memory, there's nothing that we can do, but I don't think this is the case. My reasoning for that is simple: my old Evo internal memory scores about 3 times faster than the Prime, and the Evo is a 2 year old device. I am not sure that memory which is as slow as the prime inherently actually exists. I am 99% sure that this is a software issue, but it is not one that we can fix by trying different schedulers or sqlite hacks. There is likely a problem in the way the memory is being accessed, but I know nothing about that. Perhaps if we can provide concrete evidence to Asus, they may actually do something about it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] desertflyer:
I don't know if this will help, but why not. The only real problem I have is the browser constantly freezing/hanging.

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dalingrin:
Maybe there is something I'm missing here but it seems like Asus wants to think the issue is something in userland(such as misbehaving apps). The problem is either hardware or the kernel's handling of hardware.

The first thing Asus needs to do is stop using the NOOP I/O scheduler. Using CFQ will at least partially work around the I/O problems. Slow I/O + NOOP == unresponsive. One of the major reasons to use an I/O scheduler is to prevent I/O starvation. Usually this is due to slow mechanical drive but slow I/O is slow I/O.

The real reason for the slow I/O in the first place is still a mystery to me. However, there are known quirks with the Toshiba MMC32G sdio storage. This is what most of us have in our TF201's. From what I've seen it is possible that the TF201 writes are not properly aligned for the MMC32G which would cause additional I/O ops and thus slow down writes and also potentially reads. There has been a good amount of discussion on how to alleviate these problems in the kernel mailing lists such as: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mmc/6400

Another reason to believe the root of the issue is lower level than userland is because I/O is slow even in recovery with a very minimal userland. My HP TouchPad is approximately 4x as fast in all I/O operations that I've checked.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Thank you for the info. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tempie007:
here is a post that might point in the right direction .. new kernel is being made to test things out.... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=27291978
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] effezie:
I'm not having many problems overall but Firefox beta/Firefox (it was Firefox beta when I downloaded from Play Store) gives me screen tear on the left side and runs very slow. Just now is the 1st time I've had screen tear. I don't use Firefox because it didn't work right from the start but tried it again because of previous post. Seams to be issue with the app.

My screen shot is below and I'll keep an eye on things and post again when I can help. I'm rooted, a couple mods and on .28.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Thanks for helping. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Defiant79:
I've had the same problem with Firefox. I've also seen it in the YouTube app. Was about ready to RMA my Prime, I'll have to pay more attention to when this happens. My prime is .28 stock never rooted.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Blairware:
Sorry for earlier rant

OP, as long as we are trying to identify what currently running/in memory, could we ask that people go to settings/apps, Running. Then after grabbing a screenshot, select the "Show cached processes" in upper left corner (this is new to .28, is it not?) In any event, it could prove useful, and people are right there anyway.

Here are my 2: First is running apps, second is cached processes

My issues are ANR's from Browser, SOD (None yet on .28 ) and Games that stutter and freeze (even with the OPS Destroying all activities) as I leave them, and Background Process Limit) I DO have BETTER results with Background Processes limited to 1, but search fails and a few apps will not run. I have compromised with 2 and sometimes 3 background processes for a "decent" improvement, in most cases.

On a related note to the parallel conversation in this thread, we can possibly eliminate Tegra 3 as culprit, assuming the HTC One International has the same version (unknown), then again the memory/controller are likely different. What makes a WHOLE LOTTA SENSE is looking into write alignment. If the alignment is off it could quadruple the I/O and that would explain a LOT of the poor write performance. We see it all the time with VMware on NetApp storage, and setting alignment write solve a whole ****load of memory write performance issues. Looking forward to the investigative kernel.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] smrsxn:
attached image.

why can't asus have a crash reporting log built in for their diagnostics?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
I am glad that so many decided to contribute. I never said that the ONLY issue is the I/O scheduler, even though Asus is working to fine tune it. But some problems can also be linked to bad apps that can be misbehaving an using a lot of CPU. There is another thread posted here on this thread where the OP made adjustments to the I/O scheduler, with positive results so far. Again guys, I am only trying to help us all to at least try an provide Asus with any info that can be helpful. It only takes us a few seconds to take a screenshot. Hopefully once Gary reviews these postings, it can provide some helpful info to them.

Thanks guys!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] maxfac1234:
Attached:

2 screenshots of running

2 screenshots of cached processes
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Diamondback:
Please stay on topic guys. No complaints here!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tempie007:
One advice for OP ok i know its not what you asked.

Please ask the asus reps to run Androbench .. they will see whats wrong with the io performance.....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] stinky73:
Hi, never had tearing since I've had the prime ( February) until I installed smart office last night. Screenshots of "normal" and "tearing" processes attached. My sole criticism of this device is the snails pace operation compared with all my other android devices, all of which are older and supposedly inferior specs. ( with possible exception of one s)

Running .28

Would be easy for Asus to say " well it's obviously a poorly written app" and there are those here on xda who would say the same in defence of Asus - but - the same " poorly written app" does not tear on galaxy tab 10.1, htc sensation, htc desire hd or htc one s. :confused:

Hope this limited information goes into the pool and helps in some way :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Parastie:
I for one love this device, but I agree with you somethings are too slow. Copying to and from internal should not be so slow.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Will do an no worries, I am glad that you decided to participate. Who knows who's viewing these thread and how much help this will be. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Gremlin001:
No issues with stock browser

Ver .28

Hope these are of some help.

Screenshots:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Thanks. Do you have any gaming/other issues at all?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
For those having browser ANR/lag issues, please see Gary's recent update on how to *hopefully* resolve it. Also, please keep updating this thread with your issues and screen shots, it's very helpful. Thank you all

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1673598