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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] copkay:
Both of these problems are the developer's responsibility. Google provides a backup service for apps -- it's up to the developer to enable that service. It's free, so there's no real reason not to other than laziness. :)

As far as app licensing -- I've NEVER bought an app that required me to have a network connection. Who makes Zenonia, Ubisoft? ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
I guess Google should enforce at least some rules onto developers, also improve the organization of the android market(play store...)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Gene_Bailey:
It's literally the only one that I have that does. I think Gamevil makes it. But even earlier Zenonia games didn't require a connection 24/7 throughout gamplay. They just required a network connection on the first load up of the game to verify the license and that was it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sam razzy:
Jell bean is confirmed as 4.1.. Google

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
The only thing I want is the new Maps app with offline navigation. Caching doesn't just cut it for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] foosion:
How long did it take from the time ICS was announced at last year's Google IO until it was available?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oldblue910:
Five months haha
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] foosion:
any reason to expect it any faster this year?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] The Gingerbread Man:
Because the world ends 21/12/2012? Might hurry them up

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SocialReject:
Sygic.

:cool:

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
The new maps app should work with at least 2.2 devices and up so I doubt the release date will have anything to do with JB.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
Hopefully there is an AOKP build soon after its released.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Meltdown07:
In addition to everything else mentioned, toggles in the notification pulldown on stock would be a nice addition.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zorachus:
What is expected for the annual Nexus release this Fall/Winter ?

Recent rumors point to 5 new "Nexus" devices released on November 5th, all directly on sale through the Google/Play store. 2 of those devices will be Nexus Tablets, and the other 3 will be new Nexus phones, no official manufactures at this point, but rumors strongly saying the 3 new Nexus phones will be built by Samsung...HTC...and ? The third is a toss up between LG + Sony.

Big question is what OS version they will be running ? With Android 4.1 Jellybean due out next week, rumors are that possibly Android 5.0 "Key Lime Pie" will be on the new Nexus phones this Fall.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
Whoever wrote those rumors doesn't know what they are talking about. The new 7in tablet will be out late this month or next month on the Play Store. And there is no way they will introduce 5 new devices on Nov 5th. No way they would plan out a massive device launch on that exact same day this far away (even Apple couldn't pull that one off). And are those "rumors" including the 7in tablet which will be out before then? I really wonder about these "rumors" people just make up. Yes, there will be multiple devices on the Play Store by years end. But the specifics of these rumors are laughable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zorachus:
I read that last month, was all over the Android sites, saying November 5th, would see 5 new "Nexus" devices released at the same time. With each manufacturers take on their own "Nexus" phone.

Have to look it up, but was big news back in May. Of course was nothing but rumors.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
I doubt Google will release 2 major revisions in less than 6 months
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MoosDiagramm:
Haven't they been doing precisely this for the past few years? Two major revision per year?

That said, we still don't know whether 4.1 will really be a major revision. My money's on 4.1 being a maintenance update focused on background changes released soon and 5.0 will be the next major revision released in 6 months.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ccrows:
Is "Key lime pie" the official name?

All that money Google has and they aren't gonna buy the rights to for cooler name like "Klondike"? Really?!... *sigh*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
They've been releasing every 10-11 months or so, which is far closer than once a year than twice a year.

Also, if it's not a major revision, they wouldn't have bothered changing the dessert name. They've done point updates for the same version: Eclair (2.0) to Eclair (2.1) or Gingerbread (2.3) to the unreleased Gingerbread (2.4)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rasinell:
I have a theory, and its just that, a theory.

Google have said they want to end fragmentation on Android. Ics was meant to do that but hasn't.

Nexus phone are promised the software upgrade to the next version of Android from what they are released on.

So... they give us jellybean 4.1 now making good on their upgrade promise and then in Q4 the rumoured range of nexi is released with the next version of Android (4.2 or 5 or whatever).

All prior android phones are by this point near the end of their upgrade cycle of 18months and all future phones follow the same cycle started with the new nexi.....

Just a theory.... would be nice if Android was unified
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
Google has made it clear that they are only doing one major release a year from now on. I would not expect anything after Jelly Bean to come in 2012.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
I'm sorry, but the GNex, S3, and HTC One series won't be 18 months old by Q4
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rasinell:
I know but but hardware wise they'll be new enough to take a major upgrade (hopefully that includes the gnex) and as flagship phones you would think they would get it too.

As I said... a theory... not something I'd put money on but could get rid of fragmentation
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JoeSyr:
Some thoughts on version numbers:

They are useful for the bookkeeping of what code is in a given copy of some software. Essential for update software to verify if it needs a new copy, good for debugging by enabling a standard of asking what code has trouble, and what code has it fixed.

They are a bane of human psychology, especially when it spills into the public sphere. They create expectations that become detached from reality as technical knowledge diminishes, they are a tool for the evildoers in marketing departments to get you all excited for things that really don't matter.

Jelly bean. Bah! Gonna go try and take my own advice and teach my brain to be interested in other stuff now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rasinell:
Then maybe it'd be 4.2 not 5....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
True, I hate it that firefox uses whole version numbers for incremental updates.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
Any release that is given a name is considered a major release. Google isn't releasing another major release before the end of the year.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] deepayanneogi:
The most sensible reply.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rasinell:
As I said theory.... obviously flawed :o
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fifarunnerr:
Wikipedia:

4.0.x Ice Cream Sandwich	October 19, 2011

3.x.x Honeycomb	February 22, 2011

2.3.x Gingerbread	December 6, 2010

2.2 Froyo	May 20, 2010

2.0, 2.1 Eclair	October 26, 2009

1.6 Donut	September 15, 2009

1.5 Cupcake	April 30, 2009

3 versions in 2009 (Cupcake, Donut, Eclair)

2 versions in 2010 (Froyo & Gingerbread)

2 versions in 2011(honeycomb & ICS)

And guess what? Android 2.2 and a version of honeycomb(I believe it was 3.2) were both announced at Google I/O, in 2010 and 2011.

And they didn't changed the name for some versions because they only had some small updates. Just like Android 4.0 and 4.0.3.

So, I expect Jelly Bean next week.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
Exactly major, what if jelly bean isn't major.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
If there is a name change, it counts as a major release.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MoosDiagramm:
If they change the release-schedule rules and release only one major revision per year, why can't they change the naming rules as well? Having something that at least sounds fresh and exciting ready for Google IO is important from a marketing perspective.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Interesting, from a conspiracy theory perspective.

That marketing perspective would be raked along the coals by the media. No way would Google risk that much egg on their face.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] printing724:
Custom ROM's (at least AOKP) give you control of number and placement of buttons on the nav bar. I have four...Vlingo, back, home, task switcher (left to right)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eaglesport:
What are your thoughts on galaxy nexus being the first to "get" jelly bean?

http://m.cnet.com/news/google-inadv...utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews?ds=1

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Possibility. ICS was developed on the Nexus S for a good chunk of its development period.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mark manning:
Personally I wouldn't expect to much from Jelly Bean which does look like it may be released next week except for the fact there is no lawn sculpture indicating a new release. (Google has always put a new one up in the weeks leading up to a new release) With that being said I believe the only reason the update (and we will get a new update) would have a new name is a marketing ploy to help create buzz about the tablet they will be releasing there as well. If the tablet wasn't happening they would most likely keep the ICS name for now, and just might still. They will however, give us a glimpse as to what's to come this Christmas season for the new round of nexus phone/s that will be coming out with either Jelly Bean or Key Lime Pie.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] flaviog7:
That's why i bought a google phone! :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] huskerkate:
it's Google's phone - that's the purpose of the Nexus, to get the newest OS iterations. i would be shocked if the GNex wasn't the first to get JB.

like others have said, i don't expect JB to have any huge changes - probably more along the lines of enhancing existing functions, and adding a few new functions. i would expect a major OS change (such as a 5.0 iteration) would correspond to the release of the next Nexus (much like ICS and the GNex), and wouldn't just be released for an OTA, without an accompanying "flagship" device.

EDIT: oops, looks like mark manning beat me to the punch...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] springy:
Another way to end fragmentation is to get the code on the main linux kernel. I think version 3.3 onwards has android in the main kernel which means it is much easier for manufacturer to port the android rom to their rom.

I think the latest kernel build is 3.4.4 and I think it has the power management for Android. If Jelly Bean base is on the main linux kernel distribution base this will make a huge difference.

This will mean manufacturer should be able to take the latest kernel base and just put their drivers on. It will mean no more forking the kernel which should lead to faster updates, one hopes...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
The only way fragementation will stop is if Google closes the source and dictates how it will be used and when it is to be updated. Nothing short of that will stop frgamentation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iBustCh3rries:
I'll be happy if the just add a "Adult" category to the play store...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SocialReject:
You sick bastard.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Arghdroid:
What I expect... from Google!?

To solve the OTA update mess for non-yakju Galaxy Nexus devices...

In the meantime, *every single person I know* gets the same feedback: stick to your iPhone until Google unf#ck itself.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mark manning:
^^^^ troll

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Arghdroid:
Nah... pissed-off customer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
Google needs to stick it to the carriers.

The carriers will budge.

I wish Google would buy T-Mobile.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Why are you blaming Google for Samsung updated devices?

Turn that frown...upside down and be a lessed pissed off, informed customer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zorachus:
I agree, and always thought the Nexus phones were Androids version of the iPhone. Meaning pure 100% untouched, no bloat ware, no crappy carrier apps, or different UI.

And that Google being a marketing company #1 duh :). Should market the living crap out of the Nexus like there's no tomorrow and really push it. I know if they did that, and had it release on all carriers like the iPhone, it would be a MAJOR seller and extremely popular.

But...someone made a very good point against that idea. It would piss off all the manufacturers big time. Samsung...HTC...LG...they would not like that happen at all, would go against their own sales.

Wishful thinking on my part. Google should only make Nexus devices and nothing else. Just one from each manufacturer. And that's it, only like 4 or 5 different Nexus phones, nothing else at all from anyone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jxr94:
Man you know what, Google got what they wanted out of manufacturers. The manufacturers got money off of android, now it's time for Google to just push the nexus line on Motorola and market the hell out of it. Samsung and them can use android if they want, but Google should just worry about themselves and launch the nexus line the same way the iPhone is. Once a year, on Motorola hardware, and market it. Just take over.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zorachus:
Totally agree. Time to dominate like iPhone with a single new device, once per year, by putting 100% best effort and 12 months worth of work in one phone.

Release on every carrier on planet Earth, plus the moon base on dark side of the moon. Use your Google advertising like never before.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mark manning:
You all know must know absolutely nothing about business. Keep on dreaming because that will never ever happen. The reason Android is successful is from following the exact opposite business plan.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thos25:
Another thing to note is that Samsung is rumored to be developing their own operating system as it is. Cutting Samsung off entirely virtually guarantees that they will develop their own os.

Samsung would obviously be the biggest direct competitor (excluding Apple). The fact is that Samsung has become an empire in their own right. The galaxy s line has a huge following as you know. Question is...is it because of android or because of their awesome hardware.

I'd say mostly because of hardware. If they come out with a decent os there goes a good chunk of android market share. And other manufacturers are already starting to turn to Windows phone.

I would say that any attempt by Google to stop the flow of android to manufacturers would be detrimental to their plans.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] beekay201:
This, +1

As much as I would like to see Google raise the bar a little bit, I think Android has success right now was because Google knew how to play it, and still does.

I expect source/binaries to be released at the same time or before official factory images drop. ;)

I expect Google to keep their promise, and see more binaries released, as we only have 3.;)

I expect them to keep pushing forward our device, in a stable way. :cowboy:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TomPzh:
awesome...I am using GN too
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
What exactly would manufacturers go to? WP8? With its 100k app ecosystem?

Google has manufacturers by the manly bits by the app ecosystem alone. Any fool manufacturer who makes their own OS starts out with no app ecosystem. That means if they don't.make it super attractive to developers, they are screwed. Even if developers are attracted, it would take years to.catch up to android and.iOS. And that won't even be possible unless they open the OS to all handsets.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
Manufacturers make money selling phones not on the ecosystem. Google makes money the other way around. Samsung or HTC would have no problem switching to a different OS if Google screwed them over.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ccrows:
So is "Key Lime Pie" the official name yet or speculation?...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mark manning:
That statement right there clearly shows why google brought in eric schmit. Geeks might be smart and good at what they do but can't seem to grasp business. All Samsung would have to do is fork Android (just like the rumors claim) and there you go

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mark manning:
Speculation but came from the same rumor that gave us the jelly bean name

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
Android would survive without Samsung and any OS they come up with wouldn't have any higher market share than RIM.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
They would have plenty of problems doing that if it cut into their hardware sales and it would. Wp7 (and soon 8) isn't exactly flying off shelves.

No app ecosystem, no sales. Android still took a backseat to iOS until the ecosystem grew.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bbgt2:
Survive yes, succeed no. They will not tell Sammy to fakk off simply because of Sammy's ability to push out some units now. Who they gonna stick with ? HTC, Nokia, LG? Nahh they are sticking with Sammy cause they are the ****e now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Samsung has tried the OS thing in the past. It did not go well. Not that I put stock in the rumor; they said HTC was doing the same thing.

By the way, technically they have always worked off an Android fork.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
There are plenty of fish that would make Android succeed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] superchilpil:
I would say HTC

But then again I just love HTC
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
HTC, Sony, LG, Huwei(sp), Motorola, and others I have forgotten.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mark manning:
Maybe so but Apple and Samsung together own over 50% of the market share world wide. It just wouldn't be the same without them right now.

Yes touchwiz could be considered a fork but they would move more towards something like the kindle. They also would promote it as their own Android eco system. Only people like us would truly know the difference and your average consumer would eat it up. This is why Google would never change the underlying basis of their software. Free for everyone! Google won't risk that but if they did Samsung would have no choice, which btw was the point of this conversation.

We should probably try to stay on topic now

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] -juanito-:
all what i want in JellyBean

- Improve Performance

- Improve Battery Life

- Faster Apps Launch

- Chrome Default Browser

- Ad-Hoc Support

- Better Google Play Futures for Users & DEVs
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] superchilpil:
- Improve Performance-fixed by custom rom

- Improve Battery Life- fixed by custom rom

- Faster Apps Launch- fixed by custom rom

- Chrome Default Browser-can be done regardless

- Ad-Hoc Support- custom rom?

- Better Google Play Futures for Users & DEVs- Google has to fix this one :P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] danipoak:
Late to the party but if this were iOS then a minor change to the sms app would warrant an entire new number but this is Android so 4.1. :-)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wyattyoss:
Chrome coming out of beta would be a good addition to JB. Not too much to ask, and I'd say its probably ready. Also, with the new UI included with ICS, I'd expect more polish. At one point, probably last fall, I read about themes for the ICS keyboard, so maybe more customization would be nice.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
I want only 2 things pretty badly right now:

1) A redesigned stock Email app with conversation mode and other powerful features. It shouldn't suck this much.

2) A redesigned stock Texting app with things like quick reply. I don't want to have to use an alternative from the Play store.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
Does anyone know when jellybean is likely to be released for galaxy nexus yakju.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wyattyoss:
No one is positive for any builds.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] superchilpil:
When they feel like it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
Nobody knows anything. You just have to watch Google IO and find out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ray3andrei:
i bought a nexus for the updates and i don't care what if it is yakju or not so i want 4.1 despite the fact that i don't even have 4.0.4

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ray3andrei:
Wp7 has 200,000 apps and thats a lot of apps, and wp7 haf like 20% of the market behing android and slightly behind ios

Sent from my Samsung GNexus <3
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pranavhooda:
I wish they they change the lock..... I m fed up of sliding my thumb to right... I wonder if they come up with something revolutionary and cool......
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pat123:
Lol! 2,00,000 Apps? Last I checked (couple of days back) they had barely managed to reach 1,00,000!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pranavhooda:
Please add improved volume for both ear piece and for the speakers....... :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dallastx:
Well slide you finger to the left! Many apps change your lock screen.

I think JB will also correct program latency. Played with every phone. If the app doesn't launch in 5 seconds message comes up asking you too kill or wait "not exactly in those terms" Most updates will be social an digital. Programs to link phones to play games and etc....

---------- Post added at 03:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:45 AM ----------

That's hardware. You want here anything about hardware parts.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mortenmhp:
First of all it's 100,000 apps, and second of all it is more like 5.2% marketshare (including windows mobile) That is with android at 61% and iOS at 20.5%...

http://www.pcworld.com/article/258231/windows_phone_8_windows_8_metro_app_ecosystem_set_to_grow.html

http://redmondmag.com/articles/2012/06/07/windows-phone-to-become-no-2-mobile-os-by-2016.aspx

edit:

It's supposed to close the app, if it doesn't respond within a certain amount of time. Otherwise your phone would just have it stuck open... And if an app does take seconds to open, it's simply because it's poorly coded(non of the apps I use does this)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pranavhooda:
you can still improve volume using apps like volume+...... so it means a bit improvement can be made using software...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dr.m0x:
The phones ship with the speakers set below max possible volume for a reason. If you don't put max load on your hardware it will be more reliable.

Sent from my GNex rocking Aokp
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pranavhooda:
I remember, he first time I used slide to unlock on iphone...... it was 2008 and now it 2012 and we are still using slide to unlock....... whether its iOS or android they all use slide to unlock...... oh come on cant we do anything new...............:p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kookooktchoo:
Face unlock, pin, pattern, password.. take your pick
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mortenmhp:
And those are the stock options, if that isn't enough just find something on the play store.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] diegodbm:
Why I have to choose a custom rom... I choose an Android device, a Nexus, which its supposed to have the best OS...

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] diegodbm:
I think :

Better email client

Smoothness

Better nfc system (like s-beam)

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Arghdroid:
So Samsung updates my Galaxy Nexus (a SIM-free YAKJUJP)?

I am honestly confused now. (Which is, I believe, an issue in itself -- i.e. one of a customer who worked 5+ years in IT and cannot get a straight answer on who and when s/he will get the latest update after contacting Google, Samsung and my carrier which is Vodafone UK on pre-paid.) So far I have been told that my updates will come OTA from Google.

That being said, I ditched Apple and I'm happy. But when I see the amount of work that is being done on this very forum in order to clear things up; it says a lot regarding a platform which is supposedly a challenger of Apple's iOS.