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[Nexus S Android Development] FirePoncho86:
Haven't tried it yet, but if the kernel or your phone does not like an underclock or undervolt, the amount of power you save isn't worth the amount of power you drain on a reboot. My source is bedalus on this topic, a long time ago!

This being said, I'm going to flash a jb rom, and get off gb, just to try some new marmite. Good to see some activity around here!
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Undervolting usually proves to me more hassle than anything else, as FirePoncho noted.

Really, the people who designed these chips have all the reason in the world to make them as efficient as they can. :p
[Nexus S Android Development] jokkir:
That's not really the thing though. When manufacturers make the chips, and when the firmware is made to see what kind of voltage it should take, they choose the most stable one that can run on all chips. Since not all chips are the same, some chips could be more prone to undervolting while others experience reboots. The manufacturers don't have time to test every single device one by one so the only way to check how much you can undervolt is to test it out yourself.

But yeah, it seems too much of a hassle for little gain. At least on phones.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
did I forget to put the voltage interface in?
[Nexus S Android Development] nelsonhtb:
Yup, voltage interface not in.
[Nexus S Android Development] rockerblood:
im going back to stock plus, whichu one should i use?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
I'm assuming it's not based on cm, so use the regular one
[Nexus S Android Development] jokkir:
What's the main differences between the rewrite (before 8.x) and the 8.x versions? Cleaner code? How different is the code from <8.x to now?

Just curious :D
[Nexus S Android Development] :
To be honest, I don't know for sure. When I built the original kernel, I started with thalamus' base, then I ditched that and went for Samsung's source, but I was still a complete novice, and made a lot of mistakes. I was able to revert the mistakes, but I think I added several minor fixes that actually weren't needed, and may have been conflicting with updates from the Linux mainline and/or android common.

Redoing it from a clean slate was recommended to me a while ago by simms22 as something he knew morfic regularly would do. It's just given me the chance to make absolutely sure that's it's a nice clean kernel, to know for sure at what point any instability was introduced.
[Nexus S Android Development] leap_ahead:
Nice try with clean ... we will see 8.4 big mem soon ?? we want it !! :p
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Yes, I haven't forgotten. That one guy who had a reboot made me worry. First I'll add custom voltage, then I'll wait a bit longer for feedback, then I'll do a bigmem version. :)
[Nexus S Android Development] andrei1015:
Lol maybe it was because I had 3g on? And music was playing? Dunno

Sent from my Google Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] leap_ahead:
I dont know for other,but me i never had reboot ...and i use the 7.2.2 for long time and now 8.3
[Nexus S Android Development] Sucky1983:
8.4 with jellyshot works great so far. No crashes or glitches since release. Thank you baedalus!
[Nexus S Android Development] andrei1015:
Maybe I should have mentioned in the first place. It was a "fast" reboot. Only from the bootanimation onward. It didn't reset my uptime.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Usually a ROM issue. kernel panics are fatal, so either lockup or hard reboot I believe. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
[Nexus S Android Development] andrei1015:
Yeah, probably just a CyanogenMod hiccup. Nothing to worry about.

Sent from my Google Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] rockerblood:
i check but the file said use column c so it was cm based for stock then i got boot stuck, glad you answer that i should use other rom and its okay now :)
[Nexus S Android Development] towelboy:
Great stuff bedalus!
[Nexus S Android Development] treesurf:
8.3 bigmem has been super stable for me so far. I think doing another bigmem release is totally legit at this point.

Of course, I might be a bit biased about that. :D
[Nexus S Android Development] :
You went over two weeks on a single charge?
[Nexus S Android Development] jwee5467:
If 50% idle on airplane mode with bigger battery I can see how.
[Nexus S Android Development] rodem77:
I was thinking that Marmite 7.3 was my last kernel for this beautyful device, I'm happy to see that I was wrong! Thankyou for this Nexus S new life!
[Nexus S Android Development] rockerblood:
waiting to try v8.4 bigmem :D
[Nexus S Android Development] :
I managed to snatch the nexus s off the wife without her noticing, just to test a few things, and it was lovely to use. It's still a very nice device
[Nexus S Android Development] ciaastek:
You should consider swapping your devices with wife :D maybe for a month or two ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] towelboy:
Same stock battery, and because I use my nexus as a gameboy advance, I have airplane mode on :p
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Can a cm user please test this: http://d-h.st/KMV

...to check that custom voltage works for the OC frequencies please?
[Nexus S Android Development] capoooro:
Yep

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Yes sir it works. I use jelly shot.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
v8.5 is here: http://goo.gl/HvUrp

-just a fix for custom voltage, which allows 1GHz, 1.1GHz and 1.3GHz to be set individually

Bigmem versions will come after a few more reports that both the stock and cm based versions are working without issues.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Just quoting my post from the bottom of the last page because it makes it more obvious! :p

Edit: bigmem versions now up!
[Nexus S Android Development] TsarFlow:
No problem with v8.4, trying v8.5 tonight. Everything work well, so smooth I love it !
[Nexus S Android Development] armored57:
Thanks for this awesome kernel. V8.4 work fine, now i test 8.5.

I hope bigmem coming soon ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] skinner12:
How is compared with 7.3 this new 8.*?

Nocerino's Rulez with RAScarlo's ROM features TriNitY ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] :
...and the bigmem versions are now up! :)
[Nexus S Android Development] :
There's a new ticket based algorithm for spinlocks, a merge with android common and a mainline update to v3.0.72, plus it's re-built from scratch.
[Nexus S Android Development] Nicolae-Daniel:
Finding update package...

Opening update...

Instlling update...

Making marmite...

Extracting from yeast...

Seeking help...

UNUNDESTANDABLE MESSAGE 3...

Lid is licked.

That is what i got.Didn't whiped anything,just flashed.Is this ok?thnks
[Nexus S Android Development] _hito_:
Yup, all OK:good:
[Nexus S Android Development] andrei1015:
The real test is after 12 hours +. But at first sight it looks awesome :d thanks!

Sent from my Google Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] Nicolae-Daniel:
8.5cm and a big thanks to bedalus
[Nexus S Android Development] openlatedotorg:
8.5 bigmem-noncm

Im getting random reboots on fresh slimbean v3. Once I start downloading from play store.

Never had issue with anything before.
[Nexus S Android Development] Basche:
How is your score that high, i struggle to reach 4000
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Can you get me a last_kmsg to see if it's a kernel issue?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
https://github.com/bedalus/marmite/commits/marmite8.5

The 'rebuilt-from-scratch' branch is now up on github for those who want it.
[Nexus S Android Development] andrei1015:
Everything seems smooth and in order on 3g. You really did it this time xD

Sent from my Google Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] openlatedotorg:
I didn't grab one sorry, just was trying to get my phone in half working order.

Flashed 8.5 regular over fresh slimbean, working well so far. No kernel changes, I want to see if it will continue to run on default settings
[Nexus S Android Development] ciaastek:
+1
[Nexus S Android Development] Nicolae-Daniel:
I use greenify oc 1.32 cfq smartassv2.
[Nexus S Android Development] leap_ahead:
I use 8.5 bigmem without any problem !
[Nexus S Android Development] ciaastek:
1096, row, ondemand and my score was 32xx and after changing to cfq smartassv2 it's 3153... I also use greenify.

My phone can't handle bedalus' 1.32 but can handle DerTeufel's 1.40 :/

Did you make any changes to smartassv2 in nstools?

PS: bedalus please bring back 1200MHz
[Nexus S Android Development] leap_ahead:
here an answear for 1200mhz : by bedalus : The 1.2GHz isn't coming back I'm afraid. For some reason the 1.2GHz step had a small negative effect on the FPS of games. The only reason I can think of to overclock is to resource-intensive apps like games, so having lower FPS is like taking a step forward to go two back.
[Nexus S Android Development] ciaastek:
Ok, reasonable. But what is wrong with 1.32 freq on my phone? As I said DerTeufel's 1.3 and 1.4 works well.
[Nexus S Android Development] leap_ahead:
maybe no FSB oc
[Nexus S Android Development] Nicolae-Daniel:
I don't use nstools so i didn't make any changes in any governor.I did the test again and i got 4482.no-frills for oc.

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I have no lag in games,works perfect.
[Nexus S Android Development] ciaastek:
@Nicolae-Daniel, Strange, maybe reason is I use SlimBean (non-cm) and have i9020?
[Nexus S Android Development] rockerblood:
8.5bigmem all other version flashed :)

i love this kernel whatever TOM i use i always switchback to marmite the great :D
[Nexus S Android Development] Nicolae-Daniel:
Yup,that must be the reason.Jellyshot likes marmite more than slimbean do :D
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
I'm on slimbean and apps/games are pretty lagless @ 100-1000mhz. But yes, antutu scores are quite low.
[Nexus S Android Development] cas0404:
Hi Nicolae-Daniel, for your OC 1.32 what voltage are you using???

thx
[Nexus S Android Development] armored57:
8.5 bigmem non-cm is stable and smooth

Look my benchmark @1096 - 100 smartassV2 row
[Nexus S Android Development] Nicolae-Daniel:
Hey there.as I said I haven't modified anything.I just oc with nofrills.Magic is done by ROM an Kernel.:D
[Nexus S Android Development] hekomat:
http://bayimg.com/nAlhMAAEl

HellyBean rom, devil kernel no oc, ondemand, deadline.
[Nexus S Android Development] markusssss:
I'm sorry, but I think it is from too much emphasis on these scores. the daily experience is quite different. rather, because communication of the statistics of the battery?

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus S Android Development] androidforeve:
8.3 ran great tried 8.5 phone got very hot had to go back I did try row on 8.5 maybe that was problem could be just my phone anybody else have any problems?

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Edit: fixed permissions and all seems good now
[Nexus S Android Development] cas0404:
Bedalus are we gonna to have BLN?

Thx
[Nexus S Android Development] leap_ahead:
marmite kernel use bln from cyanogenmod
[Nexus S Android Development] cas0404:
but looks like its no implemented because in CM setting that option is disabled.
[Nexus S Android Development] leap_ahead:
Use nstools or bln free from play store
[Nexus S Android Development] ciaastek:
I stumbled upon app called gmusicfs. But as I opened it, it says that the kernel does not support fuse filesystem. Is there any possibility that you, bedalus will implement it to the kernel?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
I've had a bit of a problem with my computer... I bought a cpu upgrade and broke my motherboard pulling the old one out. I found a guy selling a similar motherboard on eBay nearby. Driving there my daughter threw up in the car! It's all fixed now, but the hard drive with Windows on it won't spin up any more. It's not a problem for me, but my wife might not be too happy. Anyway, it might take me a while to sort out a new Windows install. Wife's needs come first!
[Nexus S Android Development] thehulk1969:
Ha....Your daughter threw up.... Mate, my little boy threw up all over the back seat of our 11 month old SUV the night before the new owners were picking it up as we had sold it a week earlier.... Was up half the night putting all sorts of chemicals in it to get rid of the smell...:(
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Ugh, did they notice?
[Nexus S Android Development] spider623:
any one knows if miui v5(beta) is aosp or cm based, they stopped using the google stock rom for the nexus devices
[Nexus S Android Development] Maisam.asif:
Em using 8.5cm bigmen version... And believe me, its perfect :)
[Nexus S Android Development] spider623:
yeah figure out, at the first build it was crystal clear with the speed and all but after the last build it was not so clear any more if they have changed the base
[Nexus S Android Development] Maisam.asif:
Goto http://d-h.st/users/bedalus and install bedalusKERNELv1.3b :P
[Nexus S Android Development] noloukos:
V8.4 using hellybean 4.2.2 :D
[Nexus S Android Development] treesurf:
80+ hours on 8.5 bigmem, rock solid stable and smooth. HellyBean ROM.

I think this is your best kernel yet bedalus. Many thanks.
[Nexus S Android Development] inFECT:
want to bring this question up again, because i would like to have this module too if bedalus thing it might be worth on the nexus s.
[Nexus S Android Development] thehulk1969:
Nothing Google couldn't fix!!!...;)
[Nexus S Android Development] xxxMADxxx:
cm 10 stable based
[Nexus S Android Development] :
This issue still doesn't appeal to me.
[Nexus S Android Development] Maisam.asif:
HellyBean ROM what version? and 8.5cm version?
[Nexus S Android Development] jwee5467:
Still going strong! Marmite 8.4 on rbj 4.2.2
[Nexus S Android Development] andrei1015:
Working pretty well with cm 10.1 nightlies also. I really think it will be awesome once cm 10.1 stabilises and Marmite continues to evolve :d good job mate :d

Sent from my Google Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] Basche:
How's rbj, I'm currently on MDO and previously used jellyShot?
[Nexus S Android Development] nelsonhtb:
Whoa, how, fantastic battery time.
[Nexus S Android Development] treesurf:
Latest version of HellyBean, 8.5cm bigmem kernel.
[Nexus S Android Development] jwee5467:
Rbj is great. Clean, snappy and unlimited Bacon out of the box. Battery life is good. I can last a day easy at work/uni using a bit of Pandora and checking tweets, emails, calls and forums. Usually can pump out 3 hours screen time with 1900mAh battery.
[Nexus S Android Development] inFECT:
so, what's about this numbers? http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=37409586&postcount=134

looks pretty solid to me, but i might be wrong ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] alen1901:
Its not battery time. Its phones uptime without any reboot.

Sent from SpeedMachine i9100
[Nexus S Android Development] Maisam.asif:
I am getting these results on CM10 with 8.5cm_bigmen ... Good or shall I switch to another custom Rom?

1500mah battery, no reboots, no errors, auto brightness, bulk messaging, less than 2 phonecalls, Facebooking etc...
[Nexus S Android Development] _hito_:
Great Result, stay on that:D:good:
[Nexus S Android Development] :
There's no doubt that it's faster, but my issue is that it's tampering with cryptographic strength. Also I've seen no evidence of blocking being a serious problem, or even noticeable.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Yeah, that. I used to use Seeder, then stopped, and you know what? Nothing happened.

Not saying it doesn't do anything, but as you noted, no one ever gave evidence that blocking random gave problems under JB. Might or might not have been true under GB, but that doesn't concern us. *shrugs*
[Nexus S Android Development] inFECT:
Yeah, i see the problem with the crypto too, especially if you have read how easy it is to mine private keys, which used bad random generators. I just thought it could be a good option for all the crackflashers to play around with the module and see if it helps the nexus s. Anyways, thanks for the feedback and props for your good work!
[Nexus S Android Development] :
I feel like boasting...

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=883&daysprune=-1&order=desc&sort=replycount

There's no way I'll ever catch up with the legendary morfic :p but thanks to everyone who has helped make this thread busy and interesting, and one of the most polite and helpful!

Edit: you need a web browser to see what I'm talking about here :p
[Nexus S Android Development] hekomat:
Hey!

I use the 8.5 bigmem cm version and I love it!

Only one thing though, BLN not working, the buttons light up but they don't blink and I've set everything correctly in NSTools.
[Nexus S Android Development] treesurf:
Marmite doesn't do blinking.
[Nexus S Android Development] Ser Gilgoroth:
Bedalus, just want to thank you for making my Nexus S pretty awesome! I have moved onto the Nexus 4, so the old phone is more of an alarm clock airplane mode experiment! Cheers!
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Thanks! Enjoy your new device. Keep the nexus s if you can afford to! It's still awesome!
[Nexus S Android Development] deani77:
Still keeping my Nexus S after bought N4... Now running latest AOKP with your Marmite 8.5... Will never sold this phone... :D
[Nexus S Android Development] Nicolae-Daniel:
This is just sick! :D
[Nexus S Android Development] jwee5467:
Very impressive dude! Yeah I'm happy with my rasbean with Marmite. Going stable and close to 200 hours uptime on 8.4cm I think, though it almost died last night on 1% :P
[Nexus S Android Development] wana7262:
will 8.5bigmem work on ICS 4.04 ROM?
[Nexus S Android Development] andrei1015:
Okay don't want to startle anyone but this morning, when I woke up (my phone charging as always, it was in a bootloop. Well, that's what I think, because the bootanimation was on. Also, it was very hot. Using 8.5 big mem..
[Nexus S Android Development] :
can you pull a last_kmsg? Was it going to the Google logo?
[Nexus S Android Development] hekomat:
Which rom you runnin bro?
[Nexus S Android Development] dadaz007:
8.5CM Bigmem works great on MIUIV5.

I don't know if it has been asked before, but is marmite supporting SWAP ? Because there is a new swap function in latest MIUI V5 for NS. It creates a swap file in system partition and you haven't to repartition your SD.

If not, could it been added ?

Thanks Bedalus.
[Nexus S Android Development] andrei1015:
No, don't think so, since then I flashed the latest nightly. And no, it was at the boot animation. And pretty hot too. Eh, I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Swap on flash will increase the apparent ram, but it's slow and constantly used, so it would wear out, and the device would feel slow.
[Nexus S Android Development] Nicolae-Daniel:
This one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1843301
[Nexus S Android Development] dadaz007:
OK, will try with swap disabled with stock MIUIV5 kernel to see if there is a difference with or without.

Thanks.
[Nexus S Android Development] hekomat:
Oh, I see...:) :good:
[Nexus S Android Development] Rantanplan1980:
v2 (JB) on Stock JB results in bootloop. Went back to SimpleKernel for Voodoo sound.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Are you on an SLCD?
[Nexus S Android Development] safendi:
this kernel have the problem with jelly belly, it doesn't boot. is i9023
[Nexus S Android Development] Rantanplan1980:
Yes, I am. Good to know that the SLCD is the issue.
[Nexus S Android Development] boykioy:
Same here..only the 1,5 is working.
[Nexus S Android Development] spupuz:
1.5 is not for JB is for ICS.
[Nexus S Android Development] jabbeboy:
Cant download it, gettin runtime error.
[Nexus S Android Development] boykioy:
I dont think so,reas the first post.its the first jelly version experimental..

Send from my Nexus s using jelly bean..
[Nexus S Android Development] tchaari:
I can confirm that. i9023 SLDC is not compatible with this kernel when using Jelly Belly.
[Nexus S Android Development] Billchen0014:
+1

Xxx oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S! xxX
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Anyone have issues with wifi using bedalus kernel 1.3c and up?

Problem started appearing where my wifi connects for a few seconds, without showing any signal bars in the wifi status, but the connection to google is good (cell signal becomes blue) but then woops, it goes away and doesn't come back until a reboot.

Using 1.4d currently and same problem.
[Nexus S Android Development] alen1901:
No problems here.

Sent from SpeedMachine i9023
[Nexus S Android Development] alen1901:
Ok, this is some nasty kernel. I mean WOW! Screens attached.

Also, 36min of media server, and 20min xda app. :cool:

THANKS BEDALUS.

Sent from SpeedMachine i9023
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Wait... you have an i9023 (SLCD) and v1.5 is working?

My 1.5 release was based on r_data's air kernel, so perhaps I should go back to that as a base. I'll build one now and see if I can keep the cyanogenmod ramdisk, but I'd appreciate feedback from an i9023 user when I upload.

Please bear with me, I just got back from a 3pm-11pm shift at my new job! (When I'm exhausted is when I do my most marmitey work.)
[Nexus S Android Development] tchaari:
lol, congrats for the new job buddy. Nothing urgent here. It is very important to relax and have some rest before getting to the marmite :D
[Nexus S Android Development] :
It's built... just testing now. If it boots I'll add it to this post.

EDIT: FIRST LINK REMOVED. The next one has been reported working with i9023

EDIT2: And here is one with air kernel base: http://d-h.st/pWO

Again with hybrid ramdisk. Working on CM10 i9020

AOSP and i9023 please report back! I'm going to bed 1:20am!!! :p
[Nexus S Android Development] ataranea:
just installed bedalusKERNELv2c on my 9023 with chocolate river and it doesnt boot up. just stays on the "google" screen.
[Nexus S Android Development] sdhanjal15:
Both work. Colors are different on the air base
[Nexus S Android Development] jalyn02:
Been using v2 for a min...without one issue... nice! v3 should be a treat.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
deleted links
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Hmm, I'm pretty sure that's not a kernel fault, but if it happens again try to get one for me! :)
[Nexus S Android Development] xxxMADxxx:
Sir bedalus i want to ask something..sorry if this out of topic..on miui v4/v5 i got delayed on lockscreen when my phone not used for long time (e.g 30 minute-1 hour) if use this kernel even on another kernel like matrix,trinity etc..but with default kernel (miuiv5 used default cm kernel) this not happen..already try another setting of gov,scheduler or min/max clock but still like that.can u explain why default kernel good for lockscreen response? Thx if u reply this.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
They've probably shifted some bits of code around for some reason. The OS and kernel have a sort of symbiotic relationship. Perhaps whatever they wanted to achieve in the OS was facilitated by some specific alterations to the kernel. But iirc they don't release their source so it's hard to say for certain.
[Nexus S Android Development] andrei1015:
Yeah well I really hope there is no next time. I am currently having 26 hours on default cm kernel and the phone is still going strong. Will try to stay like this for a while but I'll let you know if it gets hot again

Sent from my Google Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] treesurf:
175+ hours on 8.5cm bigmem, and all is good here. :)

Also, wanted to say thanks to whoever it was in this thread that recommended Greenify. It's a real quality app.
[Nexus S Android Development] alen1901:
Also autostart app is great ;)

Sent from SpeedMachine i9100
[Nexus S Android Development] Setting.Out:
8.5cm bigmem is working great on the new Xylon 2.5... Thanks for all of your work!
[Nexus S Android Development] monsterduc1000:
Got a video camera freeze running greenblue 4.2.2 with 8.5 bigmem, works fine with regular 8.5.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
It's probably not compatible with the bigmem version because it takes the extra memory from the camera module
[Nexus S Android Development] leap_ahead:
No...greenblue rom support the bigmem without problem.. Maybe he touch the screen on video recording