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[Nokia Lumia 800] wardoc22:
I am not surprised that we won't be getting windows phone 8. You guys got to chill out man. Microsoft can't magically give your phone an extra core/new cpu and more ram.

What would get me worked up is if they don't port the non-hardware restricted features over to our current phones :/
[Nokia Lumia 800] CaLaBeRa:
I don't see the surprise, it has always been like that. MS shows a new software that will make you buy a new hardware in order to enjoy it but you will get an impressive update. Google and Apple will allow you to keep your hardware a bit more but the updates are smaller.

You only have to choose what kind of policy you want.
[Nokia Lumia 800] kurniawan77:
Let's stay polite everyone....

Moderator

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[Nokia Lumia 800] apollo15rover:
I don't mind my Lumia 800 being a "Legacy" phone now. Since PureView came out my intention has been to ditch this as soon as a PureView Windows Phone pops up for the USA. I am thrilled that when it does, it will be part of the next generation of hardware!

Microsoft IMO is very smart to make the sacrifices they are now. At least we know WP is moving into the future; if they didn't, Android and iPhone will go there anyway.

Better to have a legacy phone for the short term rather than consigning WP in the long term to a quaint system with an interesting UI but lackluster hardware..
[Nokia Lumia 800] *Detection*:
I think their naming WP7.5/7.8 devices as Legacy already is a bit much

My old WM6.1 is a Legacy device, my Lumia 710 is brand new and still being sold.
[Nokia Lumia 800] chinoyray:
This is why people say that Apple has superb marketing and branding compared to everyone else.

iOS 6 will be available to iPhone 3GS but not exactly the same feature. Not iOS 5.6 which can be the same thing.

I wonder what perception or difference can it make if Microsoft just branded 7.8 as Windows Phone 8... just with no multi-core and NFC support for obvious hardware reasons.

Sometimes, branding makes so much difference.
[Nokia Lumia 800] *Detection*:
There's meant to be quite a few app updates coming today right ?

27th June for the 4 new Nokia apps updates, camera etc ?

---------

Today, a new software update for the Lumia 800 and Lumia 710 starts rolling out that will bring some powerful new features to your device and access to new apps you will use again and again.

http://conversations.nokia.com/2012...-for-the-nokia-lumia-800-and-nokia-lumia-710/
[Nokia Lumia 800] Mio_WP:
Copy paste from your link

Getting the update

To recap, these apps (except Play To, which is already out) will only be available for your Nokia Lumia 800 and Nokia Lumia 710 once you have installed the new Windows Phone 7.5 software update.

The software update is available during June and July 2012 and the apps will be rolled out globally by the end of July.
[Nokia Lumia 800] *Detection*:
I know I read it

My post was edited to add the link and update info
[Nokia Lumia 800] WPMan:
Microsoft did a wrong thing by not announcing all features that users will get on WP 7.8 and that made some press think that all we'll get is a new Start screen. Heck they didn't even confirm if IE 10 is coming.
[Nokia Lumia 800] apollo15rover:
Agreed!!!

I am completely pro on 7.8 for us and 8.0 for new hardware, but Microsoft really dropped the ball in communicating on this..
[Nokia Lumia 800] abhishekjj:
Can you provide a link to where all the features coming to wp7.8 are listed? Thanks
[Nokia Lumia 800] najib82:
they are giving 7.8 not 8 because they cannot put dual core processor and 720p screen and front camera on your device to run v8.0
[Nokia Lumia 800] *Detection*:
http://bit.ly/QXlDLM
[Nokia Lumia 800] wardoc22:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/R2SS0gZ_kKI
[Nokia Lumia 800] paulheu:
Why? MSFT does not even know yet for sure what will be in this update. That alone should be enough to conclude that there will be more.

The whole 'announcement' was about 10 seconds in a keynote speech on a Developer summit about WP8 for which this has absolutely zero relevance.

We know the 7.8 update will be released after WP8 and that it will include the WP8 start screen. That is what was said. The fact that is seems most 'journalists' seem to have a hearing problem and are unable to find readily available information on the internet stating this says more about them than about the MSFT announcement.

P
[Nokia Lumia 800] Funnyx:
I guess it just been brought as big news on some sites, making people believe it was more then one small remark. MS will give more info when it's time I guess.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Theseasonswither:
7.8 update

I agree that it's pretty annoying that we are not getting WP8.

I am however pleased that MS are giving us the 7.8 update. They did not have to do that.

I just hope that they continue to send updates our way after the big one that is coming up.

If not, I'll wait until my next upgrade arrives and then delve into WP8.
[Nokia Lumia 800] rafa8595:
Just Give up

WP8 is coming out, theres nothing you can do about it, i own a Lumia 800 and im not mad about it, every OS updates and sometimes the hardware of some devices isnt enough to update to a new OS, just live with the fact that you will get 7.8 and there will be still tons of apps and games for your phone.

(you can always buy a new phone :good:) atleast a year or half a year should pass for us to get Wp8 Be Happy Everyone
[Nokia Lumia 800] Mehedict:
Just to add, I seriously doubt they'll release it on the first autumn day. I guess that thing'll be out in about the end of winter...
[Nokia Lumia 800] trikkk:
pffff

It seems that many people don't mind paying more often that necessary to have a new device. It seems also that some people choose to follow a company's plan blindly .... Admiring fans? idk

This is however, something I thought it might worth the trouble bringing to your attention:

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/windows-phone-7-was-doomed-by-design-microsoft-admits-50008466/

I will leave it to your judgement now I think.

Goodbye Microsoft.
[Nokia Lumia 800] phoneguy 4567:
IMO MS has really screwed themselves here. What they should have done is stuck with the current platform for now until Windows 9 comes out, before aligning WP code with Windows. The extra time would have made it appear like an evolutionary change to WP rather then dumping a stop gap OS, which is what they're doing. Perception is very important & MS has failed at this where Apple has succeeded. Apple releases new versions of iOS to old devices even though they may not run the best, knowing people will get new phones to get the best experience. The perception is that Apple cares about its users because it upgrades its old phones.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Shebee:
This is so damn true.

I don't know, but Android 4 seems pretty nice, I'll probably go there the next time I get a new phone, apparently it's not a lag platform anymore.
[Nokia Lumia 800] whitealien:
This is so damn untrue. Whats the point of having latest OS if it laags constantly? I have upgraded my wife's iPhone 3GS with latest iOS and I utterly regret that coz she is now ranting over me that I have made her phone unusable brick. I even can't believe Apple had allowed this upgrade. I trusted them. The same happen to my HTC Hero - the latest usable build was Froyo, even so I could install ICS it could not run at acceptable performance because hardware is too old.

So back to the question. Why are you mad at Microsoft who wish to ensure best experience from their OS by leaving out older devices, but you are not mad at Google and Apple who allow you to install latest OS even so they know you will not be able to use that OS on daily basis and will have very poor performance?

You have to understand that in software development you can't progress endlessly by simply releasing upgrades and patches, sometimes you have to make a bigger leap. Think about WM 6.5-> WP 7; Windows 7 -> Windows 8; Office 2003 -> Office 2007; Android 2.1-> Froyo/GB-> ICS->JB;

It's an evolution. Lumia was not meant to last long, hardware was already outdated on release: no front camera, only 512Mb Ram, single core, no NFC chip etc. still it was (and is) best windows phone today.
[Nokia Lumia 800] jamzc92:
And not lasting long is what it has done. It doesn't matter that the hardware is outdated. Nokia obviously knew that Windows Phone 8 was coming so I don't see why they couldn't have developed their phones hardware to be ready for the update to Windows Phone 8.

Even with the offer of Windows Phone 7.8 to the users of the old OS isn't enough for the people who have gone and got a 12, 18 or 24 month contract with a mobile phone which is going to become basically obsolete in a few months.

I'm a huge Microsoft fan so I'm not saying that what they've done is going to stop me from upgrading, because I am really impressed with what they have done so far with Windows Phone and I can see the future being quite great for the devices and the OS.

I hope that in the future though that they work their devices and the OS like Apple have with iOS and provide the upgrades for the older models of phones running Windows Phone. We don't want to end up getting a phone which has been said to have all of this amazing stuff included in the OS and then Windows 8 going down the toilet meaning that Windows Phone will get changed again.

On a better point though, I'm actually looking forward to the 7.8 update, and getting a new Windows Phone 8 device as my contract expires in a few months (hopefully when the first devices are released).
[Nokia Lumia 800] apollo15rover:
Two things..

1) I am looking forward to the 7.8 update

2) I am very happy that my NEXT Windows phone will now be equal if not superior to the Galaxy S III.

I think Microsoft did the right thing here. Otherwise in a year WP would have been shunted off as an interesting, but feature-dated OS. While Mango made WP finally a serious phone O/S, Apollo will make it truly competitive against iPhone and Android in terms of both hardware and software.
[Nokia Lumia 800] whitealien:
Talking about Nokia's choice you have to take into account that pairing with external OS developer is something new to them. Making that deal take's some time. Also I'm not an expert in project management, but developing big projects like new OS from scratch takes considerable time (2-3 years in my opinion). It is possible that by that time Nokia new about Apollo project, but it is also possible that Microsoft did not give them hardware requirements since project was still in development phase. I'm pretty sure that MS is already working on WP 9.

Also life cycle of smartphone today matches providers 2y contracts : Lumia release Nov2011 with Mango 7.5 -> ~Nov2012 update to Mango 7.8 -> Nov2013 OS becomes obsolete, no new features added, only critical patches, time to upgrade phone....
[Nokia Lumia 800] *Detection*:
I didn't buy my phone because of some future OS, I bought it because I liked what it was already, anything that it receives on-top of that is a bonus

If I wanted a WP8, I would have waited until they were released and bought one of them.
[Nokia Lumia 800] *Detection*:
Where is this update ? They said June - July right ?

I know there's a few days left but every carrier except O2 has approved the update, wtf is O2 doing ?
[Nokia Lumia 800] whitealien:
No. They didn't say anything. You mixed up 7.5 update with this. 7.8 is rolling out at the end of the year, about November.
[Nokia Lumia 800] *Detection*:
Yea the 7.5 update is the one I`m talking about, I still haven't even received that yet (The one everyone has forced by disconnecting the net while Zune searches)

I just posted in this thread rather than starting a whole new one
[Nokia Lumia 800] theginboy:
My biggest concern is not that we won't be getting WP8 (no-one said we would), but rather the lack of new apps/app updates.

Developers who have apps at the moment will stop updating them, what's the point? They've got a WP8 app to write, and WP7 users will be replacing their phones in the next 2 years tops.

Developers who were considering writing WP7 apps won't bother and will start work on WP8 native apps.

There are precious decent apps as it is in the WP7 Market Place and it's just going to get worse. Gutted.
[Nokia Lumia 800] whitealien:
Aren't they backwards compatible? Unless app doesn't use some specific hardware, like front facing camera, NFC chip or what not, I don't see the problem.
[Nokia Lumia 800] theginboy:
In short, no.

WP7 = Windows CE

WP8 = Windows RT

WP7 apps will run on WP8 via a software emulator. Apps written for WP8 will NOT be backwards compatible with WP7 phones. Which pretty much kills off any new apps for WP7 which renders our fun new phones kinda pointless.
[Nokia Lumia 800] mickfarr:
Why would a developer write an app that would only work on WP8 and not WP7.8? There will be about 15 million WP7.8 users compared to 0 WP8 users when WP8 is ready to launch. There's only a couple of reasons why they would write an app that they want to run on just WP8.

1: They are writting an app that is using hardware that is only on WP8

2: They're not bother about making money in the short term.

3: They didn't know they could compile the program to run on WP7.8 and WP8 :)

I'm pretty sure that most developers want to make money and sell to a larger market so they will compile there apps to run on WP7.8 if they can. Makes no sense not too.

---------- Post added at 04:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:06 PM ----------

App's written for WP8 will most likely be using some WP8 hardware otherwise the developer will select to compile for WP7.8 when compiling the code.

---------- Post added at 04:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:09 PM ----------

Any new app can be compiled to run on WP7.8 unless its using hardware specific to WP8 in which case they will have no option but to compile for WP8, otherwise the can select the program to compile for WP7.8
[Nokia Lumia 800] OndraSter:
In short yes, applications somewhat *are* compatible. But because of different reason.

In the current WP8 SDK that has leaked yesterday the only option for native developing is Direct3D games, the applications themselves are still in .NET and are targetted in default for WP7!
[Nokia Lumia 800] ChrisKringel:
Also, Apps that use WP8 functionality wont be available on WP7. For instance games: current devices don't support custom shaders, this could be a major concern for bigger game studios that want to port games between different platforms. Or the additional SDKs. Voice controllability, Lockscreen notifications, new Background tasks. You can also mention the support of SQLite and Unity here. There are quite a lot of new things that come with Windows 8. I personally think that (besides SQLite and Unity [and the additional game related features]) most of the features are not vital to most of the apps, but I guess a number of developers will use these new features just because they can. But I do hope that Microsoft creates further updates that bring new functionality to current handsets as well. For instance the voice APIs or lockscreen notification are not really hardware dependent.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Ez-Unit:
http://c2499022.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Nokia-WP8-vs-WP78.jpg

This is absolute ****. Lumia will get just new Start screen. Nice.

All programs such as Nokia Music, Wi-Fi tethering, Panorama etc. Lumia already has now.
[Nokia Lumia 800] marcuzdjew:
READ before COMPLAINING

read first what nokia have stated why they cant upgrade wp7 to wp8... its because of the different flatform... but they are developing wp7.8 that is more like the wp8.... the only difference is the flatform and hardware....
[Nokia Lumia 800] Ez-Unit:
So why Apple can update OS for iPhone 3GS? I don't believe Nokia and Microsoft developers. All apps for WP7 are absolutely crap. For exampe TuneIn for Android/iOS is much better than WP7. WP7 don't have DropBox (SkyDrive is bull****), SoundCloud, Di.FM, TeamViewer. WP7/7.8 is poor OS.
[Nokia Lumia 800] LumiaLover:
It's not a bad OS. It's not their fault that App Developers are making bad ports/apps or aren't bring their apps over from iOS/Android.
[HTC Amaze 4G] BACK2BEAN:
First off I have a untouched amaze, But I want it rooted (just dont know where to start) and a bit nervous to mess up the phone.

But anyway I just updated to ICS 4.0 yesterday and whenever I go to turn my WIFI on it jumps me to my phones lockscreen, not my GOLOCKER one, I looked for a little bit on my phone to see if it were a security thing but couldnt find it, any help would be great.

I will be around more trying to get the concept down of rooting so i will have some questions but I will also do my research first, thanks guys
[HTC Amaze 4G] Dark Nightmare:
Carrier?
[HTC Amaze 4G] BACK2BEAN:
T-Mobile
[HTC Amaze 4G] Dark Nightmare:
It's a known issue for some, try a custom rom? See if that helps. Could be a bad flash, but you can't re-update unless you're s-off.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ultimatium:
hi all

i need soft flash room frensh for sony ericsson Xperia x1

this is my email ultimatiuminedit@gmail..com

plz help me

thanks
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oakes:
Energy or 826x
[General Questions and Answers] Your:
So today I woke up and tried to turn on my phone after a good night's charging. I held onto the power button for at least 5 minutes and nothing. I did it again and the phone displayed the boot image for like five seconds and then turned off again. As I am typing this my phone's power button has been taped for about an hour (couldn't find an answer that worked online).

My phone is the G2x. I didn't think that I needed to post it in the G2x forums because I thought the phone model was kind of irrelevant. My phone is rooted and I was running the HellFire Phoenix rom, a CM7 based rom. I had the ICE9 theme on before it was broken, though I don't think thats the problem because its just a theme. I have also flashed a custom kernel called Trinity Kernel. I also used the SetCPU app to UV/OC my phone. At the time, my phone was clocked at like 800 mHz and 216 when the screen was off. 216 seems a little low but on all the other roms I've had (more demanding roms that CM7) I never had any problems.

Can somebody PLEASE help me. Hopefully I didn't brick my phone, though I don't know how I could have. I was always safe when flashing and never did anything "wrong" like flashing something for another phone.

Oh and this is my first post.
[General Questions and Answers] kishankpadiyar:
Try to re flash a fresh firmware..
[General Questions and Answers] Your:
I can't even get my phone into recovery. It doesn't turn on.

EDIT: nvm my phone is working. turns out there is NO electricity going into my room, so my battery completely depleted. now i have an even bigger problem.
[General Questions and Answers] kishankpadiyar:
what is the problem now..?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cacharreo:
Hi peole. I have been looking for in all config menus of my Note and I have not found it. So how can I to calibrate the touch screen?

Thank you
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shmong:
Unfortunately it hasn't calibration.

If you have the problems with S-pen you can try this way:

Enable auto rotate > open e.g. smemo in landscape view > draw sth with the pen and touch all the corners and edges with it > rotate back to portrait > now the pen should work accurately
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack143:
Download touch screen tune from yhe market. The paid version will stay if you restart the phone. It works great.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwerty.:
Do you know anyother website or link to download the RadianceHD Revamped 3.5 sense with beats, Please try Every sites but all Links r broken, even the link you gave not letting download, it says smth about 10 Posts, Would really really appreciate if anyone can help me to download this ROM for my EVO 4G :/

Plz Any Smart Person know how can I get this Rom, Will Appreciate it, Any website Or Drop Box ?

Would Really Respect that
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] nrm5110:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-5...g-over-apple-on-3g-patent-seeks-compensation/

Take a read boys
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] liquidzoo:
And then they get news like this...

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-melts/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mindmajick:
Yeah. Yeah. Supposedly the skyrocket does that too. Lol

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Questions? look here: http://xdaforums.com/search.php
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] skrambled:
Google just about any phone with "burst into flames" and you'll get some hits. I think Apple owns the patent on exploding phones, they invented it. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Dirtburgler:
Apple is the king of melting phones. I find it really odd that it never makes news anymore considering its still happening on a regular basis. A coworker just had his 4s melt down on his desk. It was completely stock too. Seems to happen a lot, but apple trolls are quick to remove that kinda stuff from the interwebz.

i727-ucle2-SkY IcS
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mindmajick:
Often the problem is 3rd party batteries...

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] BaconStep:
apple is going to sue samsung now that the gs3 is exploding
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Dirtburgler:
I didn't see if it was a quad core or our dual variant, but the tear down of a quad core only showed 2 copper spring contacts that link another board to main board and there really isn't much else in the area shown. Hard to tell I guess. I just dont see what could have caused that much damage.

i727-ucle2-SkY IcS
[Acer Iconia A500] Jamezaz:
Hello All -

I'm a noob with the A500 stock ICS. I have the Playon App installed, and I can browse to whatever I want to watch, but when I select an item, rather than playing it right away it brings me to screen with a picture of the video. If I tap the video it asks me how I want to play it. I've installed several different players but none of them work (mobo is one). On my android phone the video will just start playing automatically.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm not opposed to rooting and installing a different ROM if that is what I need to do.
[Acer Iconia A500] meduza:
MX player

Did you tray the MX player? It loads the needed codec automatically and you can choose between hard ware ore soft ware decoding. One of both should work... .

m.
[Acer Iconia A500] Jamezaz:
Tried It

Thank you - I did try the MX player as well...to no avail. I even reset the tablet this morning to try a fresh OS and that made no change either. Thanks again
[Acer Iconia A500] meduza:
...nothing to thank for m8! I couldn't help...:-(

m.
[Acer Iconia A500] albertccc:
I have the same issue. Before upgrading to ICS, Playon app worked fine for me (thor v14.2 rom). With ICS (official WW), somehow .m3u8 HTTP live streaming never starts. Tried pretty much all media players I can find. No luck.

FWIW, I just saw a comment on Google Play, maybe you can give it a try -
[HTC EVO 3D] akiradavis:
You may have read elsewhere however I thought it would be great to have in the EVO 3D General section.

Google is having a huge deal on apps. Here's the article referencing this (via Android Police) http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/06/19/deal-alert-eas-mass-effect-infiltrator-and-nba-jam-unexpectedly-on-sale-for-0-99-80-off/

I noticed that all of the applications that are on sale are not listed when searching Google Play for "longest day deal".

The one I was able to verify is the Sonic Episode 1 game. That's now $0.99 as well.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...nba-jam-unexpectedly-on-sale-for-0-99-80-off/
[HTC EVO 3D] eXplicit815:
Yeah, and so is Shazam Encore and GTA III and NBA Jam
[HTC EVO 3D] akiradavis:
Were you able to install NBA Jam on your EVO 3D (if you have one)? I'm unable to due to it being an unsupported device. At least Sonic 4 was avaiable :-).
[HTC EVO 3D] eXplicit815:
I was able to get it installed when I had my EVO 3D, but I didn't get it from the Play Store.