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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Moist:
I don't think we need information on what apps are being run for asus to fix this. It is clear in the multiple threads on the issue that it is just bad read/write speeds. The worst thing being the bad write speeds. Fix that, and our Primes will have a LOT less issues.

Not to sound like a douche or anything, but we don't need "end-users" giving ASUS the help. We need ASUS to ask actual developers. Otherwise ASUS are just gonna write some ugly fixes that fix things for specific programs but don't actually fix the root of the problem. It shouldn't matter what applications etc we are running.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Gremlin001:
Browser closes after a couple hours. Not a big deal tho. Gives me a break for a fresh coffee. :D

The only other issue that comes to mind is battery time. Can't say its the prime because of the games I play. Not really an issue to me tho because I have the keyboard which acts like a backup. I'm able to get 10 to 12 hours total of actual usage this way. I'm one of the lucky ones I guess.

Attached is a screenshot of the apps I've disabled which seemed to help (dunno - placebo maybe).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hic9582:
Running .28 biggest complaint is browser (all browsers) not smooth and closing still.

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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leppie:
This is under the 'other issues' category. I have the same I/O issues as well.

Still the same errors popping up as discussed in the '.21 Game Fixes (not so much)' thread.

RF2012 is a good example of how bad it is. It cant even load its graphics as it is claiming the RAM is Full. Then tonnes of errors during the entire game (as viewed on logcat on PC).

Then finally after 3-4 matches, the game crashes out. Same reason as in above mentioned thread. Then a reboot is required.

You also still can't use the 'Preload & Image Cache' options in PerfectViewer as it will just get stuck or start going into an infinite CPU loop when viewing large archives with largish images (2MB+). Unfortunately, the app does not log any errors.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Yes, it's a memory-management issue that should be addressed with the next update. The more processes that we can show re running during thes issues, the better the condition can be mimicked by Asus, reviewed and rectified.

Thanks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Zoidroid:
I'm running stock rom .28, rooted.

From .28 update I've notified screen flickering using android keyboard, only on landscape mode. With touch ASUS keyboard or dock keyboard I have no problems.

No experience of other issues/lags.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
I sent you a PM concerning this, thanks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] effezie:
Docs to go just crashed and that hasn't happened before with this app. Was typing on a word doc using tablet only . Here's the screenshots at the time it happened. Please let me know if this isn't what you're wanting. Going to read again pertinent posts.

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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Yes this is fine, thank you for providing the screenshot.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Diamondback:
These are some valid points, however please don't abuse this threads for general complaints and stuff.

The OP made the thread to collect data about running applications so let him do this, okay?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vvveith:
here

here is mine
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sorceror171:
Well, my main issue is incredibly slow - and repeatedly failing - file management. Moving large files around can only be done if I start the process and leave the tablet entirely alone for the entire operation, not even touching the screen.

The browser occasionally freezes up, though not on a minute-by-minute basis like some people seem to encounter. Maybe once every ten to twenty minutes. It usually recovers after a second or two.

I'm able to play games like Dark Meadow, Shadowgun, and Max Payne reliably.

My serial number begins with C3, if it matters.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leppie:
On a similar vein. Copying files over USB is hit and miss. Sometimes fails, sometimes not. Also, while copying, it seems to 'stall' and there is no I/O activity going on. Then about 5 seconds later it either wakes up or fails.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Blairware:
QUOTE=MRCANNADY;27647711]Will do an no worries, I am glad that you decided to participate. Who knows who's viewing these thread and how much help this will be. ;)[/QUOTE]

I agree and try to keep an open mind in spite of how let down I feel sometimes. Really, for me it's just that .28 brought such minor improvements. I was hoping for a 'deeper dive" on Asus' part when they took a lot longer on that release, as oppossed to the bi-weekly ones we were getting the first few months. And now we have 28 point five coming, ad with it not even being a full number update, it is not sounding like major fixes are coming. sigh I DO love this tablet (or WANT to love it.) Can someone convince me that it is fixable?

What other info can we collect or contribute for Asus software engineering that will help that happen? This effort is a GREAT start, but as some have pointed out, there are other factors at play. Rather than speculate on what we think will help Asus, and collect info that they may ultimately use or discard, which can also be defeating, couldn't Demandarin, though Gary or the new dedicated Asus forum guy that they keep talking about actually put a request for logs, screenshots or data together? I am SURE that XDA Members would collectively and individually go above and beyond the call of duty to help, since ultimately the goal is the same for all involved.

Demandarin, can you ask Gary what, if anything, the Prime owners on XDA can provide that can contribute to finding solutions, squashing bugs, and improving performance? I think we ar more likely to be effective if we are being proactive, and working

with Asus engineering

than by working independently. Sorry for the long post (again) I just really want to help, and want to explore how we can do it even better.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
I agree and try to keep an open mind in spite of how let down I feel sometimes. Really, for me it's just that .28 brought such minor improvements. I was hoping for a 'deeper dive" on Asus' part when they took a lot longer on that release, as oppossed to the bi-weekly ones we were getting the first few months. And now we have 28 point five coming, ad with it not even being a full number update, it is not sounding like major fixes are coming. sigh I DO love this tablet (or WANT to love it.) Can someone convince me that it is fixable?

What other info can we collect or contribute for Asus software engineering that will help that happen? This effort is a GREAT start, but as some have pointed out, there are other factors at play. Rather than speculate on what we think will help Asus, and collect info that they may ultimately use or discard, which can also be defeating, couldn't Demandarin, though Gary or the new dedicated Asus forum guy that they keep talking about actually put a request for logs, screenshots or data together? I am SURE that XDA Members would collectively and individually go above and beyond the call of duty to help, since ultimately the goal is the same for all involved.

Demandarin, can you ask Gary what, if anything, the Prime owners on XDA can provide that can contribute to finding solutions, squashing bugs, and improving performance? I think we ar more likely to be effective if we are being proactive, and working

with Asus engineering

than by working independently. Sorry for the long post (again) I just really want to help, and want to explore how we can do it even better.[/QUOTE]

I actually informed Gary on this thread, it can be helpful if they can try to use the apps that WE use while testing their latest updates to see if the problems still persist. I know that their are indeed other factors at play, but the main issue does seem to be the I/O scheduler, which the next small (.5) update seems to address. Thats one reason why i wanted this thread to only contain the issues and screen shots, because if Asus will use this thread and try to replicate the issues based on the running processes, they are not going to want to spend time reading through more complaints.

Since Asus is also getting more beta testers, I am sure that a few of them will give the newest update a thorough testing and report any issues, and also test the running applications listed here on their devices to see if they have the same issues (wink).

I only created this thread to be a little more proactive, not to just complain,complain, but to try and assist in SOLVING the issues. At the end of the day, that's all us Prime owners want. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Blairware:
Well said. Could not agree more. I will limit posts to captured events, if any. Thx. :cyclops:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tshoulihane:
It's probably useful to capture some issues now, but I suspect the first real improvement will come from merging in the mmc driver updates in the kernel, and i/o benchmarks can show if that has improved. Till that's done everything else is just moving the issue around or making it less visible.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Parastie:
Are you certain the video corruption on the left edge is IO related? I've tried the IO tweaks from the dev thread and it still happens. I think it's a driver issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
No, it isn't. Also, switching to SIO scheduler will help.... but that still doesn't solve the I/O performance.

I still don't understand the purpose of this thread. What will a snapshot of background process indicate anything??
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sputnik767:
This. It seems that Asus is thinking that an app or process is responsible for the bad performance. From everything I've seen around here and from everything I've done based on the various threads, this line of thinking is clearly wrong. I don't want a band-aid fix, I want a real fix from Asus to the IO problems, or an admission that the flash memory used in the tablet was picked up from USB sticks sold for $5 on the streets of chinatown. And considering that I paid $500 for this tablet, I certainly hope that the latter is not the case.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] effezie:
Here's the running and cached processes. Forced closed while viewing XDA thread of home screens.

Must have been to much for my Prime to handle.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Parastie:
I'm leaning more towards RAM issues. The errors I see are very similar to an overclocked GPU on a PC. It's not life threatening, but clearly shouldn't be there. Is the RAM shared by the GPU and CPU? I really don't see how IO would cause this type of errors. It could cause the sluggishness that some people complain of. Switching to SIO certainly makes it feel snappier.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Nickedynick:
I've been having the following issues with my UK (WW) Prime:

- SOD when leaving tablet docked and closed for a few hours.

- Graphics failing to update when starting games at times other than shortly after booting up. Occasionally this happens to the launcher too - all my icons and widgets disappear, but the app is clearly still responding (i.e. pressing where a folder is shows an empty black box where the folder's contents should be).

- Slow I/O performance.

- When the Prime has been on for a while my wired XBox controller sometimes fails to register. Ususally, connecting it to the dock will make the XBox button flash repeatedly (as happens on my Ubuntu desktop), but when it's not working it will flash once when connected and go blank. No idea if this is related, but I thought it was odd enough to mention.

- I've also experienced left side graphics corruption which others are experiencing, but only twice.

Running processes:

- System

- Facebook

- Dropbox

- Goggles

- Tasker

- Blogger

- TED

- com.asus.keyboard

- NvCPL Service

- DMClient

- Contacts

- Google Services

- Media

- Maps

- Asus Battery

- Asus Sync

Cached processes:

- Launcher

- Calendar

- Aix Weather

- Asus Weather

- Friendcaster

- Google Play Music

- Calendar Storage

- Talk

- GMail

- Maps

- News & Weather

- Android Core Apps

- Google Reader

- FreePlay (Sims)

- Google Account Manager

- Android System

- Google Calendar Sync

- Rugby News

I had 472MB free RAM at this point.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tshoulihane:
Nonsense. The benchmarks show very clearly that I/O performance is not comparable with current phones. Now, we all know that benchmarks are only part of the story, but anyone who passes over the prime benchmark results is not an engineer.

Maybe the browser benchmarks they run look good, but that doesn't mean much unless the device is supposed to be just a browser.

Because of this, the apps running is not all that interesting at this stage. The focus shouldn't be on fixing gross failures (ANR), I'm most interested in more general improvements.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Parastie:
I think you're expecting too much from an ARM based device.

While I do admit that IO appears to be an issue, this is not a $1000 PC. You have to expect ASUS to go cheap on something to keep under the $500 price tag they chose. If it's easily fixed with an update then great, but I don't think it'll fix everything.

On another note, I don't see how ANR is an issue. It's annoying, but even my windows PC has sluggishness when I'm doing a lot and even it needs to be rebooted from time to time. I know from experience that iOS devices have similar issues, but Apple chose not to alert the user to those issues, while Google/Android decided to alert the user. If they removed ANR response completely, and you just waited for your app to respond, then it would be no different then anything else on the market today.

My main problem currently is graphic corruption that occurs occasionally. It's either driver based, or it's memory based. I have a C3, anyone with a C4 have similar issues? I'm running stock .28 rom.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TBacker:
Not when similar (and even lesser) devices are running rings around the Prime performance-wise.

We all just want our Primes to run like they should, not the sub-prime performance so far.

Sorry to again go against the OP's wishes, but those of us being vocal in this thread are fighting to make sure Asus doesn't get distracted with patching symptoms (i.e. misbehaving apps) rather than getting the I/O and display drivers squared away.

Fix the core issue first, then worry about any issues that remain.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tshoulihane:
This. Benchmarks don't lie. They may not tell you the right thing, but they do measure something.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Parastie:
If software can fix it, then absolutely they have to fix it. However, I'm wondering if it's more of a hardware issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Hey guy, just a quick fyi, Asus is NOT thinking that at all, they do know that there are a number of issues at play... this thread was purely created for both Asus to get feedback on certain issues and to view the running processes during these issues...just us end users trying to help any way possible instead of ONLY complaining. This will also be a great referral thread for beta testers to try an mimic any issues that some are experiencing while running the same processes. I appreciate your understanding what this thread was created for and not just following the negative trolling behavior from other threads/posts. There is nothing wrong with trying to help resolve a portion of the issue(s) at play, instead of just joining in negative after negative postings.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
You're a great example of an active member who is Helpful & tries to find solutions.

you don't have to constantly keep explaining yourself. Your thread is getting sidetracked with complaints n rants, which is off topic. You mean well with what you're attempting here.

No one ever said Asus is focusing on this aspect(what your thread topic is about) solely. just seems like some people who don't fully understand your intentions are trying to discredit what you are doing here. If it continues, I'd say get it cleaned up(including this post). just let me know

I commend you on being more proactive in at least Trying to find the solution, being a more active member, & giving constructive feedback. Instead of someone who just gripes about the issues and does NOTHING.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vvveith:
Wow!

If my PC performed even close to how this tablet performs, I would never even turn it on. Freezing on browser, or screen tearing, absolutely should never happen on a good PC. Both my phones run perfectly with the same operating system and they were just slightly less than this device. No, I think if you are having the problems you claim on your PC, you need to build a better one, because they are truly unacceptable in this day and age. Wow. :cyclops:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Thank you Demandarin. you're right, I will start reporting to the mods on people who continually post here off-topic. People who post there processes here do it because they want to help, if people dont want to post what the Thread request, their is no need to come here at all and just rant/complain. Go somewhere else or the mods will be informed
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] welrope:
C4 Here and have them happen sporadically and easily produced in several apps and launcher. Beautiful widgets is the easiest. I have been wanting someone to test this but haven't had any luck. Just set the beautiful widget forecast (last widget in the list of BW's) on any screen. tap the widget to access the animated graphics. If you location does not have the moving clouds change it to San Diego as it has been cloudy here for a couple of weeks. While the clouds are moving click either the clock or the recent apps button and usually within seconds you will start getting severe artifacts. I have been able to reproduce this on every prime i have gotten my hands on. I also get screen tearing/flickering in androbench pretty regularly but it is different than the artifact. My first prime, before i had it replaced suffered horribly from the left hand side of the screen turning static in camera and other apps. After that replacement my prime and those i have access to suffer the artifacts on .28 in several apps. Someone please try the BW scenario to a tee and give it about 30 seconds at most and see if you receive the artifacts.

I can't blame the BW app though as i have it happen more randomly in several apps, its just that i can reproduce it easily with the BW animation.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TBacker:
I sincerely apologize. I have let my irritation with the Primes issues and the long wait for a fix translate into a disregard, disrespect, and skepticism for anything not aimed at what I thought should happen.

<Shut Up & Lurk Mode = On>
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leppie:
Can't repro. I did a flicker for a split second (a few times now), but nothing more. Animation seems to quite jerky, especially when clicking either of those.... So much for quad core...

Update: I ran logcat and cat kmsg now, neither shows errors or any output during the corruption/flickering phases.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Parastie:
My apologies for sidetracking. My point is that I'm not have anywhere near the problems that other people are, and I personally don't view ANR as a huge issue, since every OS has a slow down on occasion.

I do have issues, but I love this device. It's currently my primary computer device! Since getting this thing I've only used my computer once, and that was just to root this thing. :) I'm extremely happy with it.

Next time I have screen issues, I'll post what was running. Would a logcat be more informative?

---------- Post added at 03:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:46 PM ----------

Well assuming that Asus has improved their build quality each iteration, and you're still having problems that leans towards a software issue. I'll try downloading it and giving it a go.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
@Parastie, yes that will be fine...thank you
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leppie:
Here is a little hack to clear the filesystem cache if you are having problems with games (like having to reboot to play again).

Open the terminal or adb shell and type:

sync
echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches

You will need to be root for this.

Before: 240MB free

After: 566MB free
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Stefan662:
Is there any risk doing this?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leppie:
Nope. I have not experienced any issues.

It is a one time operation. Call `free -m` before and after.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
this will come in handy

thanks. is there someplace that lists terminal emulator commands/hacks?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
hmmm...if only there was a way to include this in the atk
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] valentinrascu:
Inviato dal mio Transformer Prime TF201 con Tapatalk 2
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leppie:
Yes, the kernel docs :)

I was reading it, as RF2012 get 'RAM Full' errors.

free was showing only about 50MB free, but the cache was over 400MB, which should be released as needed. This seems to be not the case, and could be the root cause of all these memory errors.

Not really needed. It is only to help prevent a reboot when games start going ape.

Running it at startup will probably not achieve anything. The Prime vigorously allocates filesystem cache (to probably overcome to poor I/O speed) when files are read. But as said, this filesystem cache is not being released, I suspect.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] seeknom:
MRCANNADY,

Something interesting... I have the developer option set to report all FCs for background apps. My system hung yesterday, and when it finally started responding, I got a pop up telling me "maps" was not responding.

I wasn't running maps interntionally, and haven't in a long time. So, it's a case of maps running itself in the background and falling off the rails.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ThiaiZ:
I hope it is not just me but all my other devices running different android versions have always maps running on background, have no idea the reason why(maybe any google location policy?).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] seeknom:
Yes, I'm guessing it's a daemon running for the google location services.

I'm sure it's normal for it to run, but what I was getting at was that it crashed for some reason, and at the same time, my system froze to a halt. Not sure whether it was the cause, or just a symptom, but it reinforces the whole "problem with background apps" theory.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I think apps that require location activate it. maybe playstore does also. maps syncing & sending data in the background uses up resources n battery.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] seeknom:
Good point, play store is probably using your location to filter your search results...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
I have it running in the background of my device also, but I haven't had a crash in about a month now. My background processes are limited to one after a soft reboot.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MRCANNADY:
Hopefully, if Gary chooses me as one of the beta-testers, I will set my system up to have the running background processes as posted here on this thread,, and see if I can replicate the errors listed, or if it's fixed on my end. So far, my only permanent solution has been limited my background processes, and downloading the I/O scripts that Demandarin has recommended. My Prime has never been faster, even while downloading from the market, I no longer experience any lag. :)