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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sputnik767:
Yep. I like the "transformer prime killer" comment in the OP. Hell, the original iPad is a transformer prime killer. My old Evo 4G is a TFP killer. Just about every tablet ever made (that you can't buy for $100 in chinatown) is a TFP killer, that's how bad this stupid thing is. Asus is clearly responsible for this mess, because other Tegra 3 devices do not suffer from the IO issues that we have. And as far as Android for tablets, there's not even a single good Office app out there, and I've tried them all. Because of this, I have a feeling that Asus has lost me as a customer for life. You can't expect to sell a $500 tablet that gets outperformed by cheaper devices with half the hardware, pack it full of poorly functioning features (wifi, GPS), force customers to deal with crashes and ANRs, and expect to have repeat customers. As much as I hate to say it, Apple really has this thing figured out, and the reason why the iPad is by far the most popular tablet out there becomes clear once you spend the same amount of money on the TFP. And it's very simple if you think about it: the user experience is far more important that having the fastest CPU. And since Asus is clearly more concerned with selling the most tablets than actually providing a useable device, they deserve to lose customers. I just really wish that all of these gadget reviewers would actually do a comprehensive test before recommending a device. Because if the manufacturer fails to do so or simply not care, someone should advise us not to waste our money.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hairdewx:
Good thing that the Taichi is not a tablet :p It's built on proven Intel i7 technology already and will run full blown Windows :)

I've owned ASUS laptops before and they were great.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ill1:
I stand corrected its not fully a tablet, also I own an asus motherboard that has run solid for about 3 years now. ASUS CAN MAKE SOLID HARDWARE.

With that said, I still would not pay money for an android tablet made by asus. I wouldn't pay for an asus ultrabook unless I got service for the software directly from Microsoft.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Erusman:
Nice tablet. Hopefully battery life will be pretty good.

Been using Windows 8 for few weeks now. It will make a great TABLET OS. However, I WILL NOT be using Windows 8 on my Home PC. I just DO NOT like the feel of it for home use. Metro on home PC is just wrong. Bring back the dam start button! Give us the option to turn off Metro!

Personally Metro slows me down. Plus it just looks like a Fisher Price interface on my PC.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
well i hope you arent planning on getting the rt win8 version of surface then. Its already confirmed, by Nvidia, that it will be using Tegra. It will either be tegra3 or possibly newer T3+, which contrary to some may believe, will be used in tablets also.

but itll be hard to avoid tegra3. it has already saturated the tablet market this year in android. then the majority of the new win8 tablets set to release, the RT arm versions, are Tegra3. So Nvidia tegra3 is huge this year and basically a success. despite how you may feel it performs on your prime. For me, Tegra3 is working great. Cant wait to see what tegra4 and its gpu likely being keplar based will bring.

all these new tablets coming out now will be eclipsed in power very shortly. I think ill wait till after next year. Prime can easily tidy me over till then. Especially once i finally unlock. Cant front though, the surface and asus new tabs like transformer book or the 600 or 800 has me interested. Even the infinity pad. i will just have to wait and see.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mibo666:
Tegra 3 is not so bad. Only asus softwere sucks becouse i/o sheulder is so crappy.....tegra 3 windows tabs like surface are fast, smooth and fluid in use. I belive that tegra 3 i a great soc but android and asus software is not optymalized. Look at htc one x it hasnt got so weak i/o....asus completly sucks.

Now my friend have got an iPad2 - he lovs him, easy in dayly using, he is not hanging, crashing, slowing down.... ipad has not a ramdomly screen flickering etc. He lovs him..... yes he is a fanboy of ipad but my friend can be a fanboy becouse he owns a good device maybe without opensource but still better then prime . What about me? I got third android tablet and third time i must to say ..."no more asus", "no more android on tablet". On smartphones android is great but not on tablets. I want to be an fanboy of my tab like my friend ....but I can't......android tabs are too crappy.

Maybe surface will be great I will give him a chance. Surface version Pro got full operating system metro/areo - It can be "tablet" and "ultrabook" when u using cover-keyboard. It's not only "sth like nebook" - its full ultrabook / mini-laptop. It givs you possibility to use developer tool or other things on x86. U can use it like "android tablet" when u "outdoor" or a nice small PC when u need a device to do some work at home/school etc. It willl be working with all USB devices, u can plug in a printer , scanner etc - all what u want. Nice Full HD screen with dual digitizer and ability to use stylus which can be used to do some work in Photoshop etc. The price of this device will be higher but u got now "real personal computer" - pc that u can take whatever u want - it's nice future. Now I can sell my Prime and Zenbook - I will buy it and nomore I do not have to use two devices. For hard working I got my big PC at home and for rest will be surface not tablet+notebook/ultrabook - it enough...gg M$!

If the quality of surface will be good, preformance great and battery life min for 7h - I will buy it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yumms:
Thanks to Asus and Google, I'm too done with Android tablets. There is no reason why my TFP can't be fluid as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRU4QhedkD0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I'm buying the RT version, pending it doesn't exceed $500.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
1. Huh? Windows RT versions will be Tegra 3?? Nope... that's only from Asus & MS. All other OEMs... have opted to ditch ARM in favor of Clovertrail/Trinity or using TI/Snapdragon/Exynos instead.

So, basically... you will see 2 Windows RT based on Tegra.

2. Tegra 3 has saturated the Android tablet market... except, only 3 OEMs are actually releasing Android tablets (HTC & LG already admitted they have dropped out in Android tablet scene). Asus, Acer, & Toshiba..... Those 3 have saturated the Android tablet with Tegra 3... except, their sale #s are hardly anything to brag about. Success is based on sales #.... & in Tegra 3 tablet case so far... it's a failure (could all change with Nexus 7... but as far as $400+ tablets go.. it's a flop with Tegra 3).

Hmm, not really. Tegra 3 on HTC One X has enough issues as well.... but as for I/O issue, other Tegra 3 tablets are showing similar symptoms as to Transformer Prime (just not as wide)... This isn't just Asus issue or Asus completely sucks.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Lol..time will tell. we will see.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] maxfac1234:
That's an interesting information. Thank you.

From a noob's pov, can anyone explain these please:

(1) The i/o scheduler, what's the definition of it and how does it tie up with SQlite (these two are mentioned a lot) - also I am trying to make sense of (again after reading few suggestions here) how driver/software tweaking can improve overall performance whilst the bottleneck is the hardware (if this is true to start with)?

(2) How does (1) tie up with Tegra 3 (@shinnzz, I read your other post wrt the memory/chip architecture - speed vs bottleneck, half understood the gist of it)

The M$ Surface. The baby looks hot!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] htcplussony:
I like to see how that upcoming Google Asus 7 inch Tegra 3 tablet does.

If they still can't get it right then I would really have some doubts about the Microsoft Surface.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chivas228:
from everyone that went with a Win8 Phone, they love it. they were either Android or iPhone users who either:

1: didn't want to deal with the instability of Android

2: didn't want to get ripped off by iTunes and the Nazi approach Apple uses on their phones.

That being said, I like my Prime and wouldn't want to trade it in for much of anything out there right now (although it's only been 6 months). What I *REALLY* want to see isn't better hardware or this or that. What i REALLY want to see is better programming. I think programming from yester-years when space and speed was very limited, programmers had to get crafty to get everything crammed into a small floppy disk (or even tape!) and not crash or have any other issues. Now with chips and memory being cheaper and faster, programmers, I believe, can get sloppy and crutch their carelessness with the processor and memory. I may be wrong but that's just me.

Surface looks good and by the way it looks (visually only), it's like the iPhone 4Gs height (maybe 1mm thicker) and curved corners. Would like to see MS to succeed here regardless of those who loath MS, it's a good OS until poor programs are installed and screw with the registry.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] slybarman:
Sounding pricey:

http://www.bgr.com/2012/06/20/microsoft-surface-rumor-price-600-dollar/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yumms:
Sounds unlikely, pro version at $800 is too cheap. And if 32GB RT version is at $600 then what about the 64GB version? How much more will that be?

32GB RT @ $600

64GB Pro @ $800

Why would anyone buy the RT at that price?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
>I think programming from yester-years when space and speed was very limited, programmers had to get crafty to get everything crammed into a small floppy disk (or even tape!) and not crash or have any other issues.

We tend to remember only the good things and forget the bad things. If you're old enough to remember floppies, then you should remember DOS' 640K limit and the hoops you had to jump through to get himem working. Stable? Not really.

Re: MS Surface tablet - It has an industrial-strength look with its angular corners and played-up magnesium shell. Sort of reminds me of the F-117 fighter. I think it's a good contrast from Apple's "smooth, svelte, sleek" design.

Remember the iconic IBM ThinkPad design? That was the polar opposite of the iPad look, and you either love it or hate it. For those who loved it (raises hand), it bespeaks strength, durability, no-nonsense conservatism--qualities that appeal to business people. The MS Surface has some of that.

Frankly, I think it was the only design choice available. You can't escape physics. An Ivy Bridge tablet will be heavy, so forget the "thin & light" route. And you can't do "smooth & sleek" if you want to have full-size ports along the edges. I will never buy an iPad. I want my damn ports.

>Why would anyone buy the RT at that price ($600)?

Umm, same people who would pay $650 for the Prime/Infinity + dock?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] phigafr:
Fantastic!!! A tablet which will catch millions of virus and subject to data fragmentation.

Absolutely unique on the market. MICROSOFT did not make any progress in 20 years
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yumms:
No viruses on Windows phones yet, though there are viruses on Android. No data fragmentation on Windows phones either.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Hasan10:
SO much hate for prime :eek:

I must have gotten VERY lucky. My prime works quite well, despite some quirks and the vengeful graphical glitches that returned in latest update, which I am 100% sure will be fixed as they were completely gone previously.

On the other hand I am blown away by the Surface's commercial. Simply put, it is an outstanding commercial. I love competition , it always give other manufacturers a run for their money, and from that comes great innovation.

And also, I really hope people who are saying that Google will regret partnering with Asus, realize that the exact same criticism was raised when Google partnered with Samsung to make its Nexus phones, since the original Galaxy S series was hindered with problems (I bought one when it first came out, it was a TERRIBLE phone. It is a different fact the next batch released was somewhat better). Well, turns out Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus are great phones.

EDIT: Also, people should really stop bashing Asus. They really did admit that their Prime series was plagued with problems, thats why they offered refunds and extended warranties. Get the hell over it, seriously.

I am very certain Asus will make a great Google flagship tablet. Asus has learned from their mistakes, and this is being reflected in their new Transformer pad and Infinity series. Also, Android ICS fixed a lot of issues from Honeycomb and GB, and with Jellybean it will only get better.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] B-Mod:
I don't know about that, I tried two Galaxy Nexus's neither of them had radio's in them worth a crap, finally had to go to a HTC, so samsung is still a low quality phone, even with a partner with google.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sputnik767:
I have the C3 Prime, which is not plagued by most of the issues that plagued the older ones. I have acceptable Wifi (not as good as a laptop, but that's understandable), GPS will lock after a while if not moving, and BT seems to work. However, the major problem with the TFP is the IO speed, and this is a problem that plagues every single TFP. Unlocking and installing a custom kernel was a significant improvement, but still if I try to load multiple tabs in the browser at the same time, I always get ANRs or just crashes back to the desktop. Just browsing one tab at a time is generally OK, but I still get a lot of crashes to the desktop, especially on Amazon.com. This does not happen on my Samsung Galaxy SII phone, and it's running half the hardware. Trying to open a large PP presentation is also a hassle, and I get crashes in just about every office program I tried. Even after overclocking, doing all of the IO tweaks, sqlite tweaks, and everything else posted here, I can't get the IO speeds even close to what my SGS II phone can do out of the box, as verified by multiple benchmark tools and personal experience. This is absolutely unacceptable in a premium tablet. Let me put it simply, I spent $500 on a tablet that fails at the most basic tasks required from a tablet. I can't rely on it because the browser crashes at random times, it's useless for powerpoint due to the extremely slow IO, built-in GPS is worthless, and battery life is absolutely atrocious if wifi is on. Honestly, this thing doesn't even make a good frisbee. I didn't spend $500 on a toy, I spent $500 on what I thought was a cutting edge tablet PC that could replace my macbook pro for the majority of daily tasks. Unfortunately what I got doesn't even qualify as a toy. Do a simple test: try to load multiple tabs at once, or load a graphics-intensive website. Your tablet will fail just like the rest of them, because the underlying flaw is present in all of them.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
This stems from people still making false assumptions. thinking that it their device doesn't do something right or fails at a task, everyone else's does. Well your test is nothing to my prime. I have one of the earliest models also. I browse all the time with mulitple tabs open. Anywhere from 2-4 at a time. including graphic intensive sites. my prime doesn't freeze up or the browser doesn't crash or show ANR while doing all of that. I can still have multiple tabs open and stream a movie from a website on one of the multiple tabs. can switch in between them with no issues. yes, prime seems to suffer from slower I/o speeds. but like with the software updates, not everyone's prime behaves the same. different primes with different setups yield different results. LETS STOP THE IF MY PRIME IS BROKE, YOURS IS ALSO MENTALITY
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sputnik767:
Fair enough. Doesn't change anything in the end. I understand there is always variability in manufacturing, but such huge variability represents a problem in and of itself. I have used many devices and have never seen or heard of such variability as I'm seeing here. Personally, I don't care if someone is experiencing my issues or not, all I know is that these issues are pervasive enough that it's not isolated to a bad batch of devices, but likely related to quality control as a whole. All I ask for is a real fix of the underlying problem, not this beating around the bush with background processes and looking for a band-aid that Asus seems to be doing. There have been far too many updates for us to still be experiencing problems that should have never left the factory in the first place. All I can say is that I would never buy a car from a manufacturer if the quality and reliability of it was such a crap shoot, so I am sure you can guess the odds of me buying another Asus product.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I agree. I've never seen such different performing devices also. But Asus isn't trying to perform a band aid fix. that thread of screenshot of processes is just a different approach a user is trying out. to see if there's some kind of similarity that may be software related. Just someone trying to do their part in helping to figure out the issue. Not something(screenshot of processes) that Asus is solely focused on. I think the issue may be deeper than that also. but software could play a part or even the majority of what's causing the issues at hand.

I get what you're saying though. If I had a bad experience, I likely wouldn't come back also. For me, my experience has been the opposite.

although it shouldn't be required, have you rooted and try the various things we have going on in developement that has seemed to solve alot of issues. like the build.prop tweaks, system boost, SIO scheduler, and overclock. you can use some or all of them(for best results).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rcatron:
I can't believe Google would partner with Asus, when they could have with Samsung, or even Motorola. It is a decision I think they will come to regret.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sputnik767:
Yep, currently running all of those tweaks, and it is the only thing that made my tablet usable. I'm not sure I fully trust the reliability 100% to rely on it, but with the custom kernel and the various tweaks, it works ok. Unfortunately, I had to unlock and flash a custom kernel because at the time none of the tweaks were available, so there goes my warranty. And I certainly hope you are right about Asus looking into a fix for the underlying problem. The thing is, I would not have nearly as much of an issue as I do now, had it not been for the fact that unlocking the device is a huge benefit in terms of performance, but the drawback is that you forfeit your warranty coverage. It seems that Motely has been doing amazing work on his kernel and AndroWook is a great ROM, and I am very thankful for the community support. However, we should not have to forfeit our warranty just so we have a usable device. That's really my biggest issue. Samsung doesn't even lock the bootloader on my SGS II, and we have the ODIN flash utility that directly flashes to the eMMC chip over USB. Rooting that phone is as simple as flashing a stock or custom rooted ROM via ODIN. Basically, I gave Asus $500 on a very underperforming device, Asus forced me to unlock just to have it usable, while taking away my warranty in the process. And on top of that, they refuse to give us the nvflash tool that can actually save our device if we brick it.
[LG Optimus 2x] ounila:
I can't access to SIM contacts on all custom ROM. But on stock, it's ok, not with O2x only, but with htc buzz and lg OB.

What's the probleme?

Thks.
[LG Optimus 2x] RknDroidFreak:
Go Contact Ex

For starters, go dialer ex has option to copy contacts from SIM to ur phone!!

best option I know of.
[LG Optimus 2x] ounila:
Tryed before all contacts programs i know but noone work.

Thanks.
[LG Optimus 2x] ounila:
where are you Mc Gyver?
[TouchPad Themes and Apps] Jedipottsy:
Hi, heres a TWRP and matching moboot themes for the touchpad. The TWRP theme is based off williamfold's ICS inspired theme http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1675585

Place the ui.zip to /sdcard/TWRP/THEME/

to install the moboot themes, download a root explorer, mount /boot/ and copy the two tga files here, or boot into TWRP go to mount and mount /boot/ then using adb push the file

adb push moboot5.tga /boot/moboot.background.tga
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tweeker404:
Does anyone know of kernels that have the cifs.ko module for the e4gt?

I am having a tough time finding anything current that includes it.

Only I have found so far was the Desperado kernel.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yellowfoot42:
Has anybody tried to make a phone call with GN docked? I can use audio out for music player or tune-in, but when accepting a call all goes silent until I end the call and music resumes normally. I have it connected to my car stereo and all worked well, when my GN was connected directly. So prying out my phone to accept a call doesn't make sense. Did I miss something?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] disgustip8ted:
ive seen mine where the sound quality is not that good and ive been trying to track down the source of it. I can hear callers ok. i noticed when im trying to do voice commands like "call mom at her cell" when its recognizing the audio the waveform that is shown is all overblown and not very clear at all(not to mention the recognition doesnt work very well at that point). so im assuming the phone call quality doesnt work that great either. im in the process of reviewing a recording a made to my test box at my workplace to see how well it recorded.

i have also noticed that the volume that comes out of the 3.5 at the base is not very loud at all and i have to crank up my car radio all the way to be able to hear it moderately loud.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] disgustip8ted:
oh, as a suggestion regarding something more on topic of your issue, do you have the power plugged in? i know that the 3.5 mm jack doesnt do anything if theres no power.

do you notice if music is playing that the volume doesnt seem very loud?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yelayon:
Hello,

Same issue here. I don't use (play) music, but when I dock (official Samsung car dock for GN) my GN (got notification "Car mode") I get calls and I don't hear caller and caller don't hear me (vi BT of course).

Turning off "car mode" does not help too !

What's more funny I have turn on sound on screen tapping - and that sound goes via BT - but no call voice/audio.

Stupid bug that make GN unusable in dock.

I found out that when I have phone application on (like you can type number to call) the "car mode" does not turn and than all calls are ok.

So:

1. When you dock and "car mode" turns on - you don't have call's audio/voice

2. When you dock and "car mode" does not activate - everything works fine

Any1 know workaround or solution?!

Rgds,

W.

ps. so sad google made that phone with Samsung - I hate samsung !
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] disgustip8ted:
hmm, so if you do have the power on, and the audio cable plugged in, you dont get sound out of it?

what do you have selected as the audio source for the call when the phone call is active? (ie: handset speaker, speaker phone, bluetooth)

are you both on the stock rom?

again im not seeing this, i am able to make a call and the call i can hear fine
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yelayon:
Why should I use audio out from dock while I'm using BT in my car ?

Of course I don't use audio out - I don't need more cables in my car than only charger one.

During call audio source is changing to BT - tried to change to something else and it doesn't helped.

More over - sometimes when I undock phone and I call somebody the effect still exists and I need to reboot GN :(

IMHO it is some kind of ICS issue and "car mode" :(

And I use stock ROM - I'm too old to play anymore for changing ROMs every few days ;) (I've done it for 6years with my old Windows Mobile phones).

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