yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S Android Development] KrisMurdrum:
Because you like us so much?

Carved into the void with my Magic Rune Stone
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Another excellent contribution. Nice to have a chip designer weigh in. I didn't know the stuff about hold times, that's interesting, and that voltage provides the means for faster clock, rather than faster clock demands more voltage.... Subtle but important difference.

I'll add a link in the OP. Good to hear from you JokerAce! :)
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Interesting. If you don't mind could you follow these steps

1) Switch to airplane mode and reboot

2) Wait til your phone doing nothing, CPU is at a steady 100MHz

3) Switch to performance governor at 1GHz

4) Run the benchmark as many times as you can stand, record each result

Repeat with the other kernel version you say has worse performance

Post both sets of results here in the thread.
[Nexus S Android Development] leap_ahead:
6.7.11 when stop video recording Fc gallery ... so i back to 6.7.10

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what rom you use ?
[Nexus S Android Development] caliban2:
Courtesy demands I answer that one with "yes"...? ^^

On the other hand it might just be that I've forgotten how to spend a workday without being at work. Back at College, at this time (1:30h pm) I'd be getting a first feeble grasp of who I am and where. And I'd be fine with that. Guess that means I'm old now. Bugger. :p
[Nexus S Android Development] granets:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Al63fQ5qe1q9dHFRREhSN09PVEV2M3QxVUtRZ2ZvMWc&output=html

i wasn't able to reproduce what I saw earlier, but I guess it's better that I didn't. I was talking about OC results anyways :) hope this still helps either way

also bedalus if both stockOTA kernels and "all other rom" kernels work for me, which should I use? I am asking as an advice, not which is best, i know they are the same

i am using rasbeanjelly rom
[Nexus S Android Development] JokerAce:
The first thing that came to my mind after I read about this is to share it here. Your influence, you see.

P.S. If this goes on, your OP might just be a mini-knowledge database
[Nexus S Android Development] treesurf:
Strawberry

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Guess CM ain't stable yet? :p

Edit:

While in layman's term, this is nothing new or nothing anyone in the PC overclocking realm couldn't have told you. Not undermining Vikas efforts to vulgarize the topic, but I don't believe it is of any use to kernel developers really dedicated to researching functions before slapping them in their kernel...
[Nexus S Android Development] stojshic:
I'm on RasBean, which is almost stock, and also got few soft reboots first two days after flashing, now it looks like it settled...
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
The plot thickens!
[Nexus S Android Development] caliban2:
You're not running CM.

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Yep, and it's the usual suspects. :p

Also, read closely: SOFT reboots, as in "from bootanimation, no sim-unlock needed, no last_kmsg". Those are pretty much always ROM/app-caused, not kernel. (If kernel ****s up, it ****s up bad.)
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
I'm running a CM kang with cherry picks. It's not like I'm running stock vs CM here, they're not completely different.

I bet I'd get the same results on the official CM nightlies, but you seem to put too much emphasis on the fact it's euroskank kangs here. On one hand, you say CM is stable, on the other, you say marmite is stable, so that leaves apps to make the phone soft reboot. System was completely re-installed yesterday and I restored some apps with data from Nandroid. Haven't suddenly started using any new app here.

I don't see why it would necessarily be a ROM/app issue anyway. Kernel panic is a fatal error, but not all errors are fatal...

Seems like it's easy to blame the rom, even though for 6.7.9 bedalus brought back the supposedly dodgy 3.0.35 mainline and with the test version I went > 180 hours without a soft reboot.
[Nexus S Android Development] caliban2:
Cherry picks. What are they these days anyway? Not CM, so you can't claim current nightlies stable or unstable. What's your point? Regarding your 100+ uptime: Different version of eurokang, wasn't it?

Look, since current (real) nightly equals the stable builds and marmite seems pretty fine, I'm aiming for 100 hours as well. Despite what I've said a few days ago, but circumstances have changed. Let's see what you'll say once I reach that uptime.

(Well, if they bring out cm 10.1 I'll flash it of course, but I doubt that will happen this week)
[Nexus S Android Development] fear_factory84:
192 hours uptime.. ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
I'll run CM nightly if that makes you happy. Wanna bet this will still happen? Wanna bet it won't happen if I run the test kernel?

You're trying to defend what exactly again? The kernel? 2 different people running 2 completely different setups have soft reboots yet it has to be anything but the kernel. Stop playing the ostrich trying to blame all the users for the glitches when the correlation everytime is the kernel.

Seems like every other day you become a purposely ignorant person and lose all criticism for the sole purpose of defending the setup you're running at the current instant. Lord knows why you turn into that kind of jackass when you're worth more than that on even days. Boggles my mind, and makes this thread and error reporting a hassle for no good reason.

Edit: For my sake and to save myself for reading over inane posts, I've added you to the ignore list. You can do similar, I believe it is better if we don't interact because it ends up in a fight anyway. Have a good day.
[Nexus S Android Development] caliban2:
That's the way, all facts aside, aim for the man, get personal! You really like that, don't you. Yeah well, can't blame you, after all it got you a lot of thanks in the threads of adamg and thalamus. (Although they showed way more rhetorical creativity than you...)

Flash and use whatever you like. What sort of argument is that anyway?! :D I just tried to point you at possible error-sources. We'll see if you and the rest of the usual suspects will become the majority. So far, dl-numbers say otherwise. Have fun!
[Nexus S Android Development] BenHeng:
Now that it is said, I had a soft reboot yesterday: I had just rebooted my phone, wanted to check my schedule but it was still preparing sd (so pretty slow as usual), so I shut locked it. When I tried to unlock it moment later to check the hours, only the softkeys lighted up (even if I'm using BLD set à 0sec), then soft rebooted (boot anim,no google logo). I grabbed a last_kmsg but thought it would be irrelevant and didn't investigate further. I could post it if you think it is worth your time ;)

edit: BB6, and I think i was running the .10 marmite (latest release yesterday night)
[Nexus S Android Development] VerminX:
9020t

Rasbean Oct 28 + 6.7.11 + 4.2 camera and gallery

Reports 411mb

Oc to 1200 at 1150mv & 1375mv

I tested both pictures and taking video and happy to report no fc or any kind of problem.

Thank you Bedalus for an awesome kernel, much appreciate the extra RAM
[Nexus S Android Development] stojshic:
So, caliban, another bogus rom, i guess?
[Nexus S Android Development] beppegg:
My nexus s is jealous!

I was looking for the price of nexus 4 on the English play store, while it suddenly rebooted itself to google logo.

Rasbeanjelly Nov, 6 th

Marmite 6.7.10 default settings

i9023

Last_kmsg: http://db.tt/VIKYg6Zg

Inviato dal mio Nexus S con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus S Android Development] babe0607:
I9023

last pa crespo 2.54 rom

Marmite 6.7.11 (No oc)

V6 supercharged.

Everything is fine.no problem at all.

:o:o:o
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Nice work! :D

I processed your figures to give the score at 3 standard deviations, where we'd expect 99.7% of all results to be better than:

mflops	time
10.3529933921186	8.07026210309791	(v6.7.10)
9.81158240142998	8.5037718841783	(v6.7.9)

So to me it looks like the one performing better is v6.7.10
[Nexus S Android Development] aladin6:
Okay so here is my feedback of 6.7.11:

Very smooth, i can feel a difference, however,, I CAN'T WATCH YOUTUBE MOVIES. So this build really breaks YouTube vids.

I'm using AOKP.

EDIT: rebooted and now videos are playing. Will test camera tomorrow when i wake up ;) .
[Nexus S Android Development] :
True, but no reports similar to what had previously occurred with the 3.0.35 mainline. I think I've caught the dodgy bit. That remains as before 3.0.35

Previously the mm/vmalloc.c alterations caused a bug where the entire OS would break down leaving a black screen but the status bar still alive, followed shortly after by a hard reboot.

No-one has reported this so far. Just soft-reboots. Anyway, continue to monitor. There's nothing stopping me from reverting that set again.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
That's pretty impressive. Are you on v6.6 as your sig says?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Thanks for reporting fully!

I looked at this. A load of apps were killed, the wifi reset, then it rebooted without a panic. Very odd.

Are you using any memory management apps or scripts?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Actually, I originally reverted a commit to solve this problem months ago, but it didn't work. However, I've reverted it again, and here is the result: http://d-h.st/FfU

@polobunny, would you mind testing this one? Also, I'd like to know if your apps get optimised when you reboot. This happened to me, but I didn't wipe anything. It was a bit unexpected.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Deal.

Changed nothing but the kernel, didn't wipe cache but I forgot to fix permissions on this flash. I'll reboot and do that, just to put every chance on my side.

Didn't get app optimization message.

We'll see how that goes! Fingers crossed.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Quick impression: when I scroll I feel like it stutters a bit more than with 6.7.9. Not too sure about it though. :S

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Ah ha the trickery! SmartassV2 is the default governor now? I knew something was different, it was snappy but still stuttery in a strange kind of way. I'm leaving it on SmartassV2 anyway, been a while since I stopped playing with governors and its settings when flashing a kernel.
[Nexus S Android Development] jiro-kun:
Out of curiosity polobunny.. What governor do you usually use for kernels?
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Ondemand. Very simple governor, decent performance, good battery saving. My second favorite is SmartassV2 though, when I need the additional performance. So in that sense, I approve completely of bedalus decision to include only those 2 (performance is hardly a governor in itself). All the other ones I've tried proved to be either too slow to respond thus somewhat annoying to use (but sometimes more battery saving) or kept the cpu at a too high frequency for too long (thus wasting more battery).

Most will agree you can tweak a lot of governors to behave much differently than their intended purpose (like a very well performing conservative) but in the end they seem less efficient than these 2.

Bedalus could probably comment more on this having collected ridiculously huge amount of data while testing.

I kinda dig the SmartassV2 settings included in the new marmite, I believe they were suggested by caliban2, which he took and modified a bit from someone else (don't quote me on that).

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CM10 stable for Crespo and crespo4g fresh out of the press (few minutes ago) for those interested. Get.cm as usual.
[Nexus S Android Development] jiro-kun:
Yeah same here, I mostly stick to on demand, and if I'm playing games I'll go with smartass. I was at first overwhelmed by governors offered by other kernels when installing a new kernel for my gf phone. Lulzactive, lionheart, interactive, just to name a few. But at the end of the day i always set her phone to the basic on demand or smartass. since i find it more stable and better for everyday use. I also totally agree with bedalus's decision. Just this two governors + performance is whats important.
[Nexus S Android Development] superng888:
Im on cm10 stable build and marmite 6.7.11 is running fine on it :) videos work fine and camera works too even the 4.2 camera app works just fine PS I didn't over clock :D
[Nexus S Android Development] rockerblood:
got stock after flashing marmite kernel im on PA 2.54, nexus s i9020A, please help
[Nexus S Android Development] beppegg:
I suppose it could be "Android assistant "?

Or maybe green power, for the wifi part...

Inviato dal mio Nexus S con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus S Android Development] superng888:
Latest update....

Marmite kernel 6.7.11 works well with slimrom 3.0

Camera and YouTube both work flawlessly :thumbup:
[Nexus S Android Development] rockerblood:
which marmite kernel should pick? im on PA 2.54 i9020A, is it NS4G All other roms link? please reply
[Nexus S Android Development] aladin6:
Okay, video recording is working well in 6.7.11. So nothing bad until now. Great kernel ;)

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CM version.
[Nexus S Android Development] fear_factory84:
220 hours now.. yes my signature is updated. Mine is an italian i9023.
[Nexus S Android Development] leap_ahead:
+1 for smartassv2
[Nexus S Android Development] panic_4_what@hotmail.com:
Excellent!
[Nexus S Android Development] :
No, it's still Ondemand. You may need to fix permissions
[Nexus S Android Development] caliban2:
Holy...! :eek:

That will take a while to reach with my current setup (see sig), I'm at 44h. Needless to say everything's great.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Heheheh... No deal.
[Nexus S Android Development] JokerAce:
Hi, I am sharing for the general public sakes, who might not be in the league of PC overclocking realm. Like Vikas mentioned, our phones are just mini version of the PC, parts soldered, running at lower power. :D
[Nexus S Android Development] caliban2:
Another detail I noticed:

Performance/snappiness of the phone normally degrades the longer uptime gets (depending on usage). Not talking about lag, but it looses that certain it has after boot. So does my current setup, but it recovers and gets back to its old self. Not kidding or imagining this. Bedalus, that landscape-lag I mentioned in pm is gone. It seems all it needs is a little rest to sort out memory. Same goes for that lockscreen-lag when waking it from standby - had it 2 times now after browsing a lot and switching between apps. Always gets snappy again.

PS:

And I guess even after bedalus told him that ondemand is still standard-gov, yet on his phone it suddenly is smartass, polobunny will stay adamant that his setup is perfectly fine and every glitch/bug/reboot has to come from marmite. :screwy:

PPS:

See following post. No comment.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
I have already, as I said I'd do. Did it 2 minutes after my screen shot post. Nothing in my startup script that touches the governor either. Kinda puzzled here if you didn't set SmartassV2 by default.

Edit: manually set to ondemand now. Strange nonetheless.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Uh, that's weird. I don't know why it happened. Anyway, let me know if you get further soft reboots.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Stuck on Google logo?

Flash cm version
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Will do. And yep, pretty weird. D:
[Nexus S Android Development] fear_factory84:
my uptime is gone. I've had an hard reset, the notification menu faded out, screen went black, and then phone hard rebooted (after it asked me the sim pin). :(

If I'm not wrong that's a known bug. Here my last_kmsg http://pastebin.com/uVesCE4f

sgx crashed..

PVR_K: HWRecoveryResetSGX: SGX Hardware Recovery triggered

Should I update to last release?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Yes update to latest
[Nexus S Android Development] fear_factory84:
Does 6.7.11 has the vmalloc bits that caused this bug or not?
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
You got lucky to dodge this one for such a long while. :p

Edit: And no, I think PVR was fixed in 6.7 IIRC
[Nexus S Android Development] Muvolt:
For some reason, CM10 is much slower with 6.7.11 than with 6.7.10. Also, I still have 190mb free after boot. Another strange fact is that CM10 kernel is much faster than all the CM compatible third party kernels in stable cm10. (I have reflashed the rom to check it because 6.7.11 was very slow)

Another observation i had is that every kernel that has big memory mods, actually makes my device sluggish...Is it something wrong with the memory in my device?
[Nexus S Android Development] ttakacs:
Well, explain what you mean by "much slower," "sluggish," and "much faster." I have flashed CM10 stable and marmite 6.7.11 on my crespo4g with no overclocking etc. Memory on stock CM10 is 396mb; on 6.7.11 is 411mb. No issues for me, so far.
[Nexus S Android Development] lostman.it:
I Agree, tried marmite and immediately went back to the stock kernel.
[Nexus S Android Development] kiko22:
i'm using 6.7.11 and i tried Youtube and recording a video with camera.... No crash and everything works perfectly :laugh:

running...

||

||

V

Codename 3.6.6 with Gapps-camera features

No mods installed​
[Nexus S Android Development] rockerblood:
please give me the exact link for my ns i9020a im on paranoid android 2.54

Sent from my Nexus S™ i9020A
[Nexus S Android Development] :
That's a separate issue to the pvr reboots
[Nexus S Android Development] :
I'll have a look at cm's kernel and see if there have been any changes that I might have missed. But there is a recent version of this kernel without bigmem, v6.7.9
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Try harder!
[Nexus S Android Development] Muvolt:
I will definitely give it a try Bedalus! Thanks!

edit:

I tried 6.7.9...it was definitely something wrong with that memory mod...i had the same problems (slow speed) with Air Kernel (highbigmem version). Now is fast (maybe a bit faster than stock) with the ondemand governor. Smartassv2 seems to be slower....I'm not very sure though.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
It seems that v6.7.11 seems compatible for everybody. There's been a few problems reported with video, but it seems anyone who experienced a problem was able to solve it.

Any other users want to report their experience on v6.7.11?
[Nexus S Android Development] Ser Gilgoroth:
I'm still on 6.7.10 as I've been super busy. I'll hopefully update tonight and pass on my wacky kmsg if I get a reboot! I'll report any issues as well. Cheers.
[Nexus S Android Development] ScOULaris:
Just out of curiosity, how would I go about reverting to the stock CM kernel? I can't find it anywhere online. I assume it's contained somewhere within my phone. I'm running CM10 stable, currently.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Maybe they just needed to clear cache and whatnot. You are right it seems everyone got it to work after a reboot.

Reflash the ROM without wiping anything.

Edit: Oh and I'm at 23 hours and it's good so far. Is that a rebadged 6.7.11 or a different kernel you linked me to? Either way I don't care as long as it works and doesn't crash.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
It's got another bit of mainline v3.0.35 reverted.
[Nexus S Android Development] CrackerTeg:
I'm still running 6.7.10. 6.7.11 reminds me of the last super high mem kernel. IIRC, it was 5.0.2. That one ran great for me. Anyway, waiting for the version I'm on to crash before upgrading unless you want me to check out 6.7.11 bed. Let me know.
[Nexus S Android Development] Ser Gilgoroth:
6.7.11 installed, anything specific I should watch for?
[Nexus S Android Development] treesurf:
84 hours of uptime on the extramem test kernel, which I guess is the same as 6.7.11. No problems, everything is going smoothly. Best kernel I've tried yet for the ROM I'm using (Strawberry).
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Plan: v7 will be like the version polobunny is testing, but with Ezekeel's bigmem reverted, and with some stolen memory given back to the camera, so will have 8mb less than the current version.

Then there's a few things I'd like to introduce, mainline 3.0.52 will be out soon, and I'd like to try the stable 4.7.2 gcc compiler posted in the forum the other day. I've absolutely no idea what the new compiler offers, but I'll check on this. I've already tested it for performance and there's no particular evidence of either a increase or decrease. I'd like feedback from testers.

Then I'll bring back the stolen camera memory for an extra 4mb, then Ezekeel's bigmem for another extra 4mb.

I think this approach is the best way to ensure a meaningful stable version, have some fun, and work out what the side effects of the extra memory are (if any).
[Nexus S Android Development] CrackerTeg:
Time for me to upgrade. Three back to back soft reboots. The first one happened while browsing tapatalk. Same as last time. Again, no OC. 9020a, latest rasbean.

https://www.box.com/shared/4nmcep2kx8oszrnrssua
[Nexus S Android Development] rockerblood:
successfully flashed marmite kernel and its great, pixel are now better :)

thanks OP and ur team, and the member who help me :)
[Nexus S Android Development] superng888:
just got a reboot on slimbean 3.0 - display got distorted at first then it rebooted but i got it overclocked to 1.2ghz though XD it however went through the whole night overclocked and downloading files without any reboots :good:
[Nexus S Android Development] granets:
I could do that bencharking of the CPU for you, if you want. Also testing. My phone is stable for weeks now, never had a reboot, unless I wanted it to happen :)
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Try playing with your voltages
[Nexus S Android Development] :
You can do it too. It's a job I enjoy doing.
[Nexus S Android Development] khaerkool:
how to flash it poperly ?. always get bootloop when install on paranoid or cm10
[Nexus S Android Development] capoooro:
It's an obvious question: di you utilize the cm version? :)
[Nexus S Android Development] kiko22:
i've a little problem with BLN ... softkey don't blink! ... only light-on without blinking

Marmite 6.7.11
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Blinking has been causing conflict with BLD for some people, so blinking has been removed. This saves power though, so evem though it's less interesting, it still has some benefits. You're the first person to bring this up since it was removed, so I think the majority of people don't particularly care!
[Nexus S Android Development] :
v7 is now available: http://goo.gl/HvUrp

-Stable version

-Ensure memory is not an issue by reverting bigmem and restore some memory to the camera module to ensure ROM compatibility for all users. Overall, lose 8MB free RAM.

Use this version if in doubt whether the latest version works properly for you.
[Nexus S Android Development] kiko22:
oh... I really appreciated that feature, it was useful for me when I received a notification..

I will settle with only light-on
[Nexus S Android Development] rockerblood:
is nexus s i9020a with PA 2.54 included in V7? thenwill u please give me the exact link? thanks

Sent from my Nexus S™ i9020A
[Nexus S Android Development] leap_ahead:
7.0.2 fc gallery after video recording ...
[Nexus S Android Development] rockerblood:
can i use the update eventhou i flashed moded camera 4.2 from nexus 4?

Sent from my Nexus S™ i9020A
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Use the latest version. If you have problems go back to v7. You need the version for CM. If you have a 4G phone, you need a the 4G CM version.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Try the 4.2 camera. It might work. Otherwise, I think someone else also found it worked properly after a reboot.