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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SocialReject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Qkarie_lo&feature=player_detailpage#t=116s

On a lighter note, do you all think these animations will be included in jelly bean or just a mock up for promotional purposes?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ddemlong:
Looks good, however I think its more promotional. Through all the Gingerbread updates there were never a change with the icons. I think ICS will remain the same. I only see an overhaul like that when its a major jump.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
3 posts out of your 10 total.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I was under the impression of mockup.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] InvalidUsername:
Never claimed that iOS is perfect -.- unlike you, I don't care what logo is written on my device. As a consumer, I just care how it works for me, so the way u see it, you are the one being childish.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SocialReject:
Agreed. Still want those icons. Those subtle differences and shadows really makes them look good.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
We could definitely use an icon upgrade.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xHausx:
Please keep it respectful and on topic here. If this continues to degenerate into another iPhone vs Android fanboi argument all it's going to do is earn everyone involved infractions.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rayiskon:
whether we want to admit it or not, but multitasking on phones should always be referred to as "multitasking" , neither iphones nor androids can multitask as a pc for example, and seeing all the quads and soon 2GB of RAM coming out (i.e pc range hardware), it's weird no manufacturer made a step further in the multitasking field. the youtube comment above is right, same goes for games. maybe google should do a revision on how the activity is being handled, or maybe app devs should educate themselves more how onPause/onResume/onStop/onRestart methods work.

Another thing also is the possibility to have multiple "windows" opened on the screen and the ability to minimize/maximize any one of them, that would then be multitasking in it's full meaning.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You must have stylus like fingers to be able to close windows(plural) on a smartphone screen. Lets not go backwards in tech...thanks ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rayiskon:
all the dev work u've done made u lose some of ur creativity? :p a long press to select and swipe in either direction to minimize/close windows is an example of something that could be implemented, pinch to zoom a certain window to make it bigger, clicking "recent apps" button to maximize a minimized window.. it's not that hard really to figure out, there are multiple ideas and possibilities out there...but i guess the highest creative point anyone reached was samsung's pop up video player (a feature that a market app already had woohooo).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
That was a tongue in cheek comment, it just made me remember stylii.

Anyway, I think "windows" on a phone are gimmicky. I can see the demand on a tablet, but imo that is a whole different ecosystem. Even with Samsung's popup player, it is just as quick and less disruptive to switch between the apps. None of us are writing novels with our fingers (that I know of).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SocialReject:
Agreed.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joshnichols189:
What?? I use the pop up browser and calculator ALL THE TIME. They are excellent :)

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iamtien:
i hope it wont be like honeycomb again, only for tablets.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joshnichols189:
They unified the two OSes for a reason ;)

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
4.1 Jelly Bean. Everything that wasn't ready for ICS. More tablet stuff. Not guaranteed next week though. They could always have a separate event for Jelly Bean like ICS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gray bishop:
Since I'm currently running ios6 and ICS 4.0.4

I have to be honest, since I purchased and rooted my nexus with paranoid android I've spent little time on my iphone 4S as far as apps are concerned.....

does Jellybean get the infamous Majel?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
That wouldn't make any sense.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] akira02rex:
If you remember, the google ceo himself, claimed that Jelly Bean was going to bring "game changing" features to the arena this time. So, it kind of makes you wonder what he meant by that. Makes you doubt that it's just "performance improvements"...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SocialReject:
I thought Majel wasn't being released until Q4

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neo158:
True, but wouldn't it be better to use that space?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sookieball:
Agrees.

I personally think our GNex phones are just plain better than iOS anyways

I think the one thing apple has that I wish android did

Which isn't even androids fault,

Is a responsive touch screen better than apples.

I'm a lover of my nexus but man oh man is iPhones display smoother and more responsive than any android device.

But display size, customization, capabilities for a huge variety of personal interest, and above all,

4G LTE!

Apple pretty

Android Exciting.

And fun names like key lime pie :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimmyhook:
WinPhone 8 should be renamed FailPhone 8. Seriously, colored squares? Is the target demographic toddlers with upper middle class parents? I doubt the tablets will do much better. Just wanted to vent after reading some disturbing stuff about windows 8 rt
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
Doubtful. CEO talk is just that, talk. At this point, as Android has gotten mature, I don't think it is reasonable to expect game changing new features. Majel is obviously the biggest new feature one would expect and from all accounts it is coming later this year so it may not be in JB.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
This.

CEOs definitely do not specialize in code, or even features ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BFirebird101:
Yeah, I'm voting for Majel as well, but unlike Apple, I'm sure they'll make it available to all Android phones running Eclair or above. It can't take THAT much processing power
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Well, even if JB is announced this soon, it wont be seen until Q4, so that would work out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonnyg1097:
Right now the only thing I care about is in the Play store when you go to the list of all the apps you have previously downloaded, that that list be in alphabetical order so it is easier to find specific apps you may have downloaded in the past that you would like to download again.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You are easy to please :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonnyg1097:
lol. its only because I did a factory reset on my phone without doing a backup before hand so now I am going through all the apps in the play store so I am a little upset about how they aren't in order now. If I recall they used to be but now they aren't.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gray bishop:
I have to agree with you on the display, there is a difference

my favorite thing though is being able to bypass itunes to put media on my device

Android has always trumped IOS that way
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mmegalodon:
Thankfully they do not associate the store updates with the others, as I expect them to rectify the mess they have created recently. The "my apps" section should consolidate currently installed AND purchased apps. Then maybe have your "history" and "flagged" apps for potential future use. The former with an installed, then alphabetical list. It is a mess, that's for sure.

As for the announcement, minor tweaks. I'm more concerned about the Nexus 7. The device / OS showing that was done the last time. I'm not expecting anything terribly groundbreaking, especially in the UI department as they have have established a solid base. Tablet tweaks, in my opinion, is what I'm looking for.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonnyg1097:
Couldn't agree more.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dg4prez:
not only that, but if you use the web interface it doesn't show all your apps. when i had to do mine i couldn't go further than the g's.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] superchilpil:
No homo dude but I've missed you :P

Your posts always made me laugh
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oikeakives:
Does anyone remember that google patented their new lockscreen? i suppose that this new lockscreen will be in 4.1/5.0

source: http://www.webpronews.com/google-patents-new-lockscreen-method-2012-02
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
Cool, then Apple can't steal it, claim it as their own, patent it and sue the asses off of anyone using it, like they've done so far with all their "revolutionary" stuff. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kookooktchoo:
This is already the case for the Google Play website, no?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
I wonder how long after 4.1 is released that we'll be able to put it on our Gnexes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mathfreak2000:
Not too long, hopefully. After all, the Gnex is a Nexus phone, so... (unless you have a non-"yakju"/"takju" firmware)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JosepiOT:
Everything will slow by 20% per year, so we have an incentive to buy the next google phone.

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dr.m0x:
Regardless if you are serious or not, I will buy the next Google phone. Lately I've been quite tempted by the galaxy siii but I keep reminding myself that phone won't get jellybean for six months or more, unless I run Cyanogenmod on it, in which case I may as well keep the nexus since most of the advantages of the gs3 are in the Samsung software.

Sent from my Cyanogenmodded GNex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] arzbhatia:
Guys, check this - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.iosched

See the facelift of the search bar in the 4th screenshot? Could be 4.1/5.0?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] keith.mcintyre26:
How is it 25:10 on the clock?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bgdxv:
lol. Gnex on crack
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Beamer9408:
Who are you too say 25:10 won't exist i.e. Pluto as we know it is no longer a planet. Maybe they discover the earth doesn't spin as fast as first thought. Therefore we actually have 26 hours a day and have been bamboozled our whole lives into thinking we only had 24...

</sarcasm>
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pat123:
My expectations:

1. FIX for the god-damn live wallpapers.

2. Some really cool tablet-specific apps.

3. Voice-assistant (Majel?) built into the core of the OS.

4. Slightly tweaked transition/window animations.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andrewlax120:
what do i think JB will bring?

different launcher

-homescreens organized by media, music page, games page, etc...

introduction of majel. which i doubt i will ever use

performance tweaks as well as refinement of the holo UI

bewbz
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iBustCh3rries:
I agree. it will be a bunch of fixes maybe some speed improvement and batter life improvements and a color scheme change. But I doubt it will be something as life changing as ICS. (life changing is an exaggeration)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xxprodigyxx11:
To the people who say android doesn't lag.

This is what I would like to see fixed

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Here...o-remain-like-that-in-the-near-future_id24434
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Razer(x):
I'm sure there's a way to make it high priority
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xxprodigyxx11:
If I remember her entire article correctly she says Android would have to be rebuilt from the ground up.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chw2006:
I'm pretty sure a kernel developer can change that around, but it might be a lot more complicated than initializing the main thread as real time instead of interactive.

Plus, from what I read in that article, the UI rendering is done in some mega thread as opposed to an individual thread. This means that a multitude of things can be affected and some lower priority processes will never get enough quantum if you just change that one thread's type/priority.

I'm sure Google can change this around if they really wanted to.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] superchilpil:
This, I prefer android the way it is

Plus apple probably patented that as well
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] demarcmj:
Not to mention the fact that the version number means absolutely nothing. They're releasing a new version either way... whether it's 5.0 or 4.1 is of little consequence.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
Although, I think it's safe to say that whole number updates (i.e 2, 3 and 4) have been major updates with a lot differing while decimal updates have only had minor changes and no direct UI overhauls like those of whole number ones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] demarcmj:
I didn't really mean that the version number is meaningless. They certainly number them intelligently, and you are absolutely correct in saying that the significance of the update is what drives the version number.

What I was more getting at was that the percentage of devices that are using the previous version (at CADude's earlier comment) has nothing to do with the versioning scheme. They're not going to arbitrarily use 4.X numbers just because a lot of people still don't have 4.X. And they're certainly not going to hold up a 5.X update because of it either.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] annie42:
fix the graininess of the screen in low brightness and I would be happy with Android again
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Um...Android isn't the cause of that ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] The Gingerbread Man:
Fix the amount of idiot android users should be jelly bean bug fix

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Never gonna happen. Google doesn't want to lose marketshare.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jss2:
How about this:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_phone_novel

But now on topic. After the major changes from GB to ICS, I've got to agree with most other people here - jellybean will most likely just be minor updates and build on top of ICS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] The Gingerbread Man:
I should've added a *sarcasm* or :rolleyes:

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
There's more idiots that use iPhones in my opinion, iOS 6 is already testing in beta , I like to see what iOS 6 can do matched up with jellybean.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chancy319:
It has already been confirmed as 4.1 and as some people said, El Goog isn't going to overhaul ICS so soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
No I caught your sarcasm. You didn't catch mine though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DirgeExtinction:
If the Google IO app is any indication, Majel won't be making an appearance. That is unless I missed something in the event schedule.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
It's not expected until Q4. That doesn't mean it will not be mentioned at IO. It is possible the hooks will be enabled in JB so it can be enabled later without another OS update.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
JB may be announced at IO, but it won't release until Q4 so it would line up with Majel.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
It's possible although indications are that the Nexus tablet will be shipping with JB.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yes but we would have seen leaks of some sort if it that was that close.

We always have in the past.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] androidtoy09:
Before I get burned alive, I'd say I'm very tempted for the Surface and perhaps a WP8 phone to complete the eco system. But for now, nothing beats the GNexus. Period.

I don't expect much from Jelly Beans. I see it as the transition from Eclair to Froyo.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Tablet yes. Phone, no.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
The tablet is rumored for July though...hmmmm also...with this tablet...what about the nexus phone? Could google be multitasking?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I was talking about the Surface tablet. I doubt the Nexus tablet will release in July with JB. So either it doesn't release in July, or it releases with ICS.

#hearditherefirst :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] copkay:
WP8 looks fantastic. If Verizon gets a decent device, I'm going to definintely look into getting one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
There's been leaks that the GN Play Store variant is currently dogfooding JB internally. And with a wifi tablet, there are no carriers involved so it is much easier for Google to keep it under wraps. I would be surprised if JB was released any later than August or September.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Wanna make a wager? ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Qortez1:
I really hope they fully enable Wi-Fi direct
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ricecake2000:
Maybe if JB comes out Verizon Gnex users will get it in a timely manner. Or it will be released in Q4 and we will see it Q3 of 2013 haha

Maybe they will add swype. I was reading an article about swype yesterday.

I wouldn't mind if they tweaked the UI to be more in line with chrome books or of that nature. There is a theme being designed like that and it just looks amazing. Although that would probably qualify it as a major release.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rayiskon:
instead of theoretizing about the possible combinations about JB/nexus tab etc.. , hold ur thoughts for 5 more days and u will know everything
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Way to stifle conversation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rayiskon:
I'm really impressed by ur need to comment on every post u come across to. Don't u have something more useful to do during the day?... and then u open a thread and apologize to people for ur attitude or smth like that.. come on man, chill out :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tgyberg:
Dont tell him to chill, he's funny as hell! :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blackhand1001:
Doesn't matter to me when vzw rolls it out I'll have it before.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You are telling people to stop discussing something and wait. I am confused, is that not the definition of stifling conversation?

Last I checked, I was participating in this thread with conversation and am enjoying conversing with people before you came along with your last comment. I am sorry that bothers you. Are you telling me that I should not be allowed to post?

I don't have an attitude at all and am 100% civil and not flaming anyone in the least. Not really sure why you felt the need to bring up an apology thread I made (and meant). You know if I had posted this instead of you:

People would have complained about my attitude. I just can't win with some people. I am remaining civil, not being rude, treating everyone with respect, and not participating in flame fests. I am fulfilling the obligations set forth per my apology thread. I cannot make everyone happy past that, so...I guess I will just have to accept that you dislike me.

You know what they say...if you don't like the thread, don't read it. Otherwise, why not join the conversation instead of asking people to stop?

Please don't feel the need to reply to me about this because I am done going off topic. I will just put you on ignore if it continues.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Well...hopefully the props we need are not wildly different than ICS, otherwise we may need to wait for a leak or have a half-assed version.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oldblue910:
That's what happened on the VZW Xoom. Once the ICS source code dropped, the devs had a hell of a time getting mobile data working because they had to finagle it using Honeycomb 3.2.6 proprietaries. I'm sure a lot of devs are happy now that there are finally ICS proprietaries available for the VZW Xoom...six months after the fact! haha
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Well, this is a point release though. So hopefully it won't be a problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oldblue910:
That's true. Forgot about that. There's no doubt we'll see JB on the Galaxy Nexus, of course, but I wonder what the introduction of a Nexus tablet is going to mean for the probability of JB on the Xoom...the VZW Xoom reaches 18 months in August...and the WiFi Xoom in October...of course tablets are far more expensive for most people than phones are, so maybe they'll support it longer. I guess we'll find out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
I guess its going to be 4.1 Jellybean,

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/21/android-jelly-bean-4.1-google-wallet/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hazerd:
Wat is going to be in Jelly Bean (I Hope)

- Googles Own Siri ore s voice

- Lots of bugfixes

- More Google Stuff

- Better audio ( on nexus )

- Profiles ??

- Chrome ??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blackhand1001:
Part of that is probably the tegra 2 being harder to develop for as well (major issues getting lte up). The omap 4 is a lot easier in that respect.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
I doubt Majel/Google Assistant will be ready as most reports say Q4 2012 but maybe they will surprise us.

I think Chrome is a given.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xxBrun0xx:
On Topic: I wonder if they'll do something different with the softkey buttons? After seeing custom roms, there is a lot you can do with them. Currently, I don't have any controls on the bottom of my phone, and having the full 4.65" screen for use is fantastic.

For home, back, menu, etc, I use LMT pie controls. They work similarly to pie controls in the stock android browser (can be found under settings, labs). Would anyone else like to see this, or something similar?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] harveydent:
Errr... that's from a few threads up
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ATnTdude:
I expect Play Store GN's to have 4.1 next week after I/O.

I expect International/Yakju GSM/HSPA to have 4.1 starting the week after that.

Someone will "leak" 4.1 for Verizon soon after.

Sprint will get 4.1 a month after GSM Yakju.

Verizon will push 4.1 a month after Sprint, but everyone here SHOULD have been either on the perfectly fine leak, or a custom ROM. Those still sitting on 4.0.4 and whining about it should be ban hammered.

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I think pie controls are horrible both practically and from a UI perspective. Horrible. Horrible. HORRIBLE. But I understand and respect why you like them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bozzykid:
Yeah, I wouldn't expect any changes in that area other than perhaps making holding the home button do something different (like launch voice search, etc). Google isn't going to start moving them around and changing them in different apps because it provides no consistency.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You are such a Debbie Downer, LOL. Poor Sprint, and screw you, Verizon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RicardoSul:
wellingston, ngslso

Google has confirmed that the next upgrade to Android will be version 4.1.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yeah, we kinda figured :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mtmerrick:
The only things I want/expect from jellybean 4.1 are Majel, beam 2.0, and better monitor support

Beam explanation: include wifidirect like the GS3, for data transfers. <3

Monitor Explanation: you plug in a HDMI cable and it displays the tablet launcher onscreen, fitted to the monitor. When the monitor is displaying the content, the phone turns into a touch pad, controlling the screen with a mouse cursor.

The latest Motorola webtop is very similar to this. It would be foolish on Google's part to NOT bundle this into 4.1
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
With jellybean, I want Google to improve the android app licence check so I can actually use paid apps offline, also improve the experience with Tablet and phone( increase the data that syncs) I hate playing a game on my tablet and then playing later on my phone and all my achievements aren't there and I have to repeat parts.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ygvuhb:
provide band selection

android really need this function
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Gene_Bailey:
This!

This would be a godsend. Because a lot of the time I play games on airplane Mode to save juice and not have disturbances with texts and calls and stuff. Zenonia 4 however requires a network connection. Sad face.

Although for the multiple devices bit, I use Data Sync Plus from the market and it works wonders. Truly amazing. Syncs all my game data up to drop box and my other phone gets it too. I have all my unlocks in PVZ on both phones wirelessly. Native support for this function without root would very nice though.