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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] iamkoza:
true, but I live in the country's 2nd or 3rd largest market (Chicago) and it stinks everywhere I go. I was in Orlando last week and in a select few locations I got over 0.8 mbps and it felt like 4G speeds compared to the paltry 0.4 or less I typically get.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Cuppeerr:
It was 2 different tests 2 different times and 2 different days haha:)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DarkManX4lf:
Ah ok. Yeah still those are good speeds still.

With my EVO 4G and EVO 3D, when I got 4G wimax in NYC, I was getting around 10,000+ kbps down.

Also I think this article is testing Sprint 4G wimax and not LTE.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] twigs187:
That's not bad..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ipclark1:
Actually much faster than usual on the dl here, but typical upload and ping here downtown Chicago...

I see I'm not allowed to post attachments but it was 310dl 56up 568 ping.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jsonger121:
These are pretty consistant speeds where I live. I didn't think sprint has rolled out lte yet??

either those pictures are photo shopped or its a one x cuz sprint says they havent yet launched lte. but if it is out then hell yeah its about time they catch up to everyone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] durandetto:
I get inconsistent speeds, but I'm usually on WiFi anyways.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DarkManX4lf:
They have in some areas in Texas. I am not sure if its official. Some of the Texans can chime in on this one.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Cuppeerr:
I've only seen it in colleyville texas and in a part of waco texas. The lat and long coordinates and in one of the pics lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] guih:
My speeds have always been total crap down here in Miami. I have faith that the Network Vision deployment will be really good, though. Plus, Sprints data speeds are probably worse than Metro since there are more people on Sprints 3g network than on Metros
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] EPayne123:
Yea, I actually had to quit using this site after a while due to leaving Verizon for financial reasons and the phone I went to on MetroPCS(Has LTE Here And Getting About 4.5Mb Consistant) wasn't supported by this site. This site refused to support any device on MetroPCS at the time. I am back now and don't plan on going anywhere. Will update Profile here soon. Sorry about the confusion.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jimmiekain:
I found a sprint tower about 2 miles from my house that has been upgraded... I got somebpretty good speeds standing right under it.

All of these are while on 3g on my epic touch
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ausch30:
I tested my EVO against my brother's Verizon iPhone a couple weeks ago and the speeds were almost identical. Some areas are good, some are bad, same with every carrier. The reason Verizon and AT&T were able to build out their LTE networks so quickly is because they have more money. More subscribers + lower overhead due to data caps + higher fees = much more money to build and upgrade your network.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DarkManX4lf:
Yes this is true also Sprint did waste a bit of money in deploying their wimax network when they could have deployed LTE. I'm sure it's more complicated than that.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Yeah knowing LTE would win at that time is the big wrinkle in that, bc no one knew lte would win out over WiMAX.... They went with first 4G they could get the quickest...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] TurboX2:
I average about 80 kbps where I live in Gainesville.. on campus is way better. But still not that great.

I haven't gotten above 200 kbps on my phone in my apartment since before the iPhone came out.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] joebarkho:
I live in Chicago and my speeds and signal suckkkkkkkk!!

I get .2-.8 mbps usually

And full 4g wimax bars around 2-5 mbps. That's all if I get service. Once I go into any building my signal drops like crazy its annoying as ****!!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ausch30:
None of us know the conversations that go on in their board rooms or in Dan Hesse's mind but I have to believe LTE was always part of the plan. You never know though because Dan likes to go things alone, just like he is with this new payment system Sprint is coming out with, it just doesn't make sense a lot of the time. They wanted to be the first to say they had 4G phones, in their mind it didn't matter that it might not be years until they had a complete, consistent 4G network as long as they were able to always say they were first. I live in the second largest metro area in NYS and I don't even have WiMax here, we'll see if I ever get LTE (which is supposed to be completed by 2014). I'm just content paying significantly less than I would pay if I were with either of the big 2.

As for those concerned about Sprint's LTE not getting 32Mb/s, who really needs those speeds on a phone?(other than to stroke your epeen) My brother has a DSL connection at his house and I ran speedtest and got 2.5Mb/s and it was fine. If I could have a consistent, stable 5-6Mb/s I'd be perfectly happy.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] moses2303:
With one bar of service from my basement I did three test (bottom 3 of last picture)

I then stepped outside to my front porch where I would get anywhere from 2 to 4 bars-depending on how hard the wind blew:rolleyes: (top 3 of bottom picture)

Here's all the test together. Not bad in my opinion considering the poor signal. This tower has gotten its network vision upgrade as well.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
Looks like we might finally see 1MB/s download speeds with LTE. This means that I might actually get faster speeds with my mobile service than my home Internet (~11mb/s)!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DarkManX4lf:
Lol, yeah that is kinda sad.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] guyver2077:
In Miami as well.. and I am getting just horrible service. Don't know how much more I can take it..4g is still flaky
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SPreston2001:
Bottom line is Sprint is known to have the worst network of the Big 4. Yes some people may experience great speeds in their area but that's NOT the norm. Most people get crappy 3g speeds outside of twilight hours lol. Sprint stays competitive because of their prices not because of their network performance. If you get good speeds in your area then great, but don't make it seem like the people who get crappy speeds are in the minority and that Sprints network is just fine. I've pulled .02Mbps download speeds in my area on numerous occasions lol. And I'm not even gonna talk about the spotty 4g WiMAX that couldn't hold a signal to save its life lol.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thlinx:
Finally someone that actually does research!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SilverZero:
I feel like I get decent speeds, but it does depend on the time of day. I don't live in a big city, so maybe I just get a bigger share of whatever tower is near me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wrxlvr:
I'm usually around 1-1.5Mbps. About the same as my work phone on AT&T HSPA+.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Cherokee4Life:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/19/3094715/sprint-lte-speed-test-verizon-att-tmobile-comparison

Check this article out!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DarkManX4lf:
As I type this message in 1x data, it's good that Sprint lte is somewhat fast. I was expecting it to be faster or as fast as AT&T or Verizon.

The article says Sprint LTE was between 9 and 13 mbps. On Wimax in NYC ibwas able to get between 8-10.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SPreston2001:
Thats kind of troubling to me that Sprints LTE network is only measuring speeds like that considering its only being used by a few people...:eek:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Eric1985:
We just got back from Chicago for vacation a few days ago and its sad my 3G barely worked there and my speeds here at home in central Iowa has better speeds than Chicago. Really thinking about calling US Cellular to see their prices. They have LTE in Des Moines which is half hr from me. I had them growing up and they may not be "sexy" but their coverage is amazing
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DarkManX4lf:
I guess that would make sense. Chicago is a crowded area and probably more people using Sprint than Iowa.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Eric1985:
Ya cuz everybody in Chicago has Sprint, and only 1 tower. Nice try in the smartass category. I guess a town of 12,000 should run laps around a city with 3 million ppl WOW
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] salvasaur:
That's weird, I get a pretty consistent 650kbps average both downtown and in Hyde Park. Hit up to 1.3Mbps occasionally. 650kbps is by no means a good speed, but it's much better than what you guys are getting. Upload speeds are atrocious though.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
they are going for more consistent speeds and have a higher floor than the others...the full network redesign that they are doing is truly state of the art no question about it.

Go watch the ALU videos that got tossed up on youtube as they go into deep deep detail about their part of the rollout in their areas and what all is being done...amazing stuff!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] salvasaur:
Consistency and a higher average low is much more important to me than a higher high. Having said that, even 8Mbps download speeds seems like overkill on a cell phone, to me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] waterbound:
pretty consistent in Annapolis and surrounding areas

No need to post yet another screenshot..

1513/837
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DarkManX4lf:
Smartass? I wasn't trying to be one.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] nokios:
I work for Comcast as a programmer currently, but used to work for their Commercial Network Engineering group, which handled 100% fiber connections for commercial customers. A large portion of that business is cellular backhaul for the likes of T-Mobile and Verizon. Comcast has a ton of capital and has been building up its fiber network all throughout the country.

Sprint has, if I remember correctly, signed a contract with Comcast to use their backhaul service, which is being rolled out slowly region by region. TMobile and Verizon use Comcast in a lot of areas to provide connectivity from cell towers back to their data centers, and this is where your 4G comes from. I can tell you that they are upgrading not even a year after setting up service... as you can probably guess, demand for mobile bandwidth is growing exponentially.

Carriers are struggling to keep up with demand as they push more data-heavy phones on their customers/potential customers.

So... personally, I plan on sticking with sprint for a few reasons, the main of which is their lower plan costs. I have 5 phones on a shared plan, unlimited texting, unlimited data, unlimited mobile-to-mobile minutes, and 1400 weekday minutes, which is WAY more than enough for us. My siblings and I are all mostly data fiends, and use the internet/texting features, while my mother is likely the one that talks the most. This is 250$ a month. DISCLAIMER: I have an employer discount due to working with Comcast.

The other of which is, out of Verizon, TMobile, AT&T, and Sprint, Sprint is the only one I've found to have coverage almost everywhere I go on the east coast, with the exception of a particular neighborhood that one of my best friends lives in.

Yes, it does annoy me sometimes how slow the data can be, but I am getting what I am paying for, and if I had Vz I would be paying probably 50% more than I am now (close to 350$, if not more) for 5 phones with all of them having data capabilities.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bharris25:
Good enough for me 40 miles west of St. Louis. I didn't use my Wimax on my og Evo anyway unless I was plugged in. Netflix still plays and looks fine for me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jess813:
Sigh.....Come on Sprint ... I will give them to years end to get the speeds up if not bye bye!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DarkManX4lf:
We all hope so. Some of us believe it without any doubt.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Dude ur in Dallas.....ur stuff will improve before you know it likely...lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kilokk:
I'll have to say that I live in San Antonio and I've been pretty satisfied with Sprints 3G/4G service. I had AT&T for 2 years and their 3G service was terrible compared to Sprint.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Zameus:
This is it with full bars? Can someone explain what might be going on?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DarkManX4lf:
Congested data network.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bonebeatz1234:
I just came to sprint from TMobile cause of the throttling when you go over your data . Big mistake on my part even when I'm throttled with TMobile which is 2g speeds it blows the doors off sprint 3g i can't believe its this slow, i could accept if it was 2g speeds of TMobile but slower than that its bad. It takes ten minute to load a 2 minute you tube video. 15 minutes to download a game that's 28mb that's unacceptable. I'll hang around till October but if theres no 4g lte then off to Verizon i go. Most my friend don't know better cause sprint is all they ever had but if you came from a different carrier you will be shocked hell cricket get better 3g speeds in Rockford illinois its just bad i posted some speed test scores on another thread. 0.15 mbps download speeds gtf out of here i could walk to chicago and back before this network could download a gameloft game smdh.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bonebeatz1234:
that's about what i get its really bad what's the point of unlimited if you can't use it. Its like someone giving you money but knowone accept your currency. sprint should be ashamed at these speeds pathetic.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Zameus:
What he said ^^^ +10
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] salvasaur:
Bars = cell reception, not data speeds
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dblock3nine:
I just ran some speed tests in my bedroom with 4G on and the speeds were the fastest I have seen so far but my 3G is awful.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jess813:
U have 4G in your bedroom?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dblock3nine:
Yup, I pretty much got 4G in my whole place but it usually doesn't go beyond 5 mbps.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] waterbound:
Definitley a geographic issue, near Annnapolis/Baltimore MD I regularly get 1.5ish to almost 2 down/usually are around 800-900 up. I have been happy so far and cant wait to see some LTE love soon. This matches my EVO OG old speeds as well.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bharris25:
I've got nothing to complain about, I just hit 2GB usage 10 days into my Billing cycle so there's no way I could go with another network. luckily I have decent 3g speeds otherwise that would get pretty annoying.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] waterbound:
Yeah, speeds (for me) in and around the Maryland, Annapolis, Baltimore and Columbia areas all seem consistent to around 1.5/800

No problems here but wonder if thats due to this area lighting up LTE soon anyway.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ipclark1:
Humbling experience I just had last night: talking up how bad ass my phone is all day then attempting to use redbox app on my LTE in FREAKING midtown manhattan to get a movie and before slow ass POS sprint network can even FIND a redbox, the chick I'm with locates redbox, reserves movie, and gets directions on her 2.5 year old 3GS. That is bull**** right? I mean am I overreacting? Am I that big of a whining asshole because I expect at least service that is in the realm of "usable" after spending 700 bucks on this thing.I'm heated. Someone make me feel better and beat that story please.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SPreston2001:
I wish I could offer you some words of encouragement but I get the same sucky speeds as you. All we keep hearing from Sprint is this smoke about Network Vision and how its "supposed" to clear up bandwidth and offer fast speeds but Sprint has been promising faster speeds for years now. Ive been with Sprint for over 10yrs and have been waiting for these so called improved speeds for quite awhile lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] DarkManX4lf:
I really cant beat that, but I've got the same experiences with Sprint for the past 3-4 years...and I live in NYC also.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] soopermarkus:
Seattle's speeds have been abysmal too unfortunately. I've been fortunate to mostly work in places where I have wifi access so I don't really complain too much about it but it can be downright embarrassing when I'm out with friends and I don't have wifi. I feel like I'm driving a pedal powered Ferrari.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
If you took the time to do the research you'd know NV is anything but "smoke" and will absolutely increase speeds in those capacity ridden areas where they are way over the current backhaul....

They are replacing the ancient bundled T1 line backhaul with microwave/fiber based. That alone is HUGE.

And sprint hasn't been promissing speed increase on 3G for years....maybe you tricked a little CS rep to say so but they haven't said that in an official capacity at all...

I too have been with them for over 10 years and also have crap speeds in my area, but never was promised better speeds till NV deployment.....which FACT its underway by a large amount so let's drop the "smoke" reference, because it is very much real and effective.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SPreston2001:
First off I have read up on NV and know about the proclaimed "improvements" secondly, say what you want and defend Sprint all you like but until I experience real live faster results in my area I will remain skeptical. If I recall the whole EVDO rev xxx crap was supposed to improve speeds but nothing came of it. Wimax was a flop and now Sprint is back to doing what they do best which is playing catch up. Im a loyal Sprint customer and I dont even complain much about the service because I know what to expect, but im not going to be convinced until I see it. Sure upgrading to fiber will be huge but why the hell did it take them this long to do it in the first place?? Everything looks good on paper but lets see how it translates to real world functionality before you crown them. Maybe in a few years Sprint will have decent a Network across the board but by then im sure some new technology will come about and little old Sprint will be back on the outside looking in...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] caspertodd:
In the area where I work in Nashville (around the Grassmere Zoo), I was getting 16 bps (yes, that is BITS per SECOND) on average with my Epic, now with the Evo I get 60 Kbps. The fastest speeds I have ever gotten in Nashville were in the 120 Kbps range. I cannot even begin to tell you how desperately I am needing LTE.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ipclark1:
I feel you-back in Chicago and its much better than NYC at least-but even with the 160kbps down I'm getting here I can't even stream a podcast on the train to work without buffering...beyond frustrating people
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] travanx:
Here in Los Angeles there are so many areas where there is little to no reception that parts of entire cities you can't make a call. Forget about the data issues. I wish the roaming would at least kick on better. My realtor has near full bars on Verizon while we can't dial.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kyjibo:
I live in San Antonio, so I'm hoping that the LTE activation on the 15th will help my 3G woes.

I actually feel like I downgraded when I switched to the EVO 4G LTE. The stock rom is not working at all for me (the memory manager seems to keep unloading sense, so every time i hit the home button it has to load for ~5 seconds) and without the Wimax signal I had on my old EVO 4G I can't stream Pandora at work anymore. If the LTE activation on the 15th does not help things I'm going to jump ship to one of the other carriers.

Hmm, Windows Phone is shaping up pretty nicely...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mbaseball3:
Yes, we all downgraded which is complete bull.

I feel like they suckered us into jumping to a 2 year commitment while sprint fools around. I've been so tempted to going back to the og evo. Geez at least I could get WiMAX where I'm at. Today seemed especially horrid so I did a few speed tests; 0.09mbps down is highest I got. And I'm in the middle of a fairly large county so Wtf sprint. I can almost hit the damn tower, its that close.

Edit: yep I'm done (insert cry baby) made the decision, goin back to og evo when I get home. I really don't wanna be carrying around 2 phones but phuck it. LTE evo is the chit minus sprints network. Really wish they woulda added in WiMAX in this sucker. Who'd complain about a tri band radio? Chit as long as it'd work, right. I have WiMAX nearly everywhere I travel here in so cal. So might as well hang onto it until something changes. 100kbps average ain't cutting it.

Edit 2: as a last stroke of hoping for good speeds, I pushed the phone up against my desks metal leg to give it a larger 'antenna' and pulled a couple more speed tests. Wtf is up with the last 2 results? Lol both on evdoA

Sent from my EVO 1.4ish G LTE wannabe
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] waterbound:
I wouldn't say 'we' all downgraded. Still getting 1.5/800-900 in Annapolis / Baltimore region but feel your pain.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cobraboy85:
I am right down the street from you man.... hahaha. over in gold river. I have always had a solid wimax connection tho

Sent from my Evo no4G or LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MissingBonobo:
I would agree that Sprint's network speeds are rather lackluster, coming from T-Mobile in the same area I get 1-1.2 mbps vs T-Mobile's 18 or so.

HOWEVER, the coverage map where I get that 1-1.2 is better than T-mobile's, AND I transferred just to get this sweet phone. The speed is tolerable since I'm on WiFi most of the time, and I get the One X with expandable storage and a camera shutter button.

People always say that a bad network can ruin a good phone. Well, the opposite is true too: a mediocre phone with a good network is almost as displeasing.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ipclark1:
Still waiting for a topper here...I truly believe if Mr. Hesse read that he would more clearly understand the frustration most of us have on a daily basis with this network. Although, I believe he lives in NYC so how could he not know. Still heated over that experience....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
Sprint is obviously aware of the shortcomings of their own network. They can't just clap their hands and make everything all better. They have to invest money that they barely have to improve things, and it takes time.

I understand your anger, but it's something that we'll have to deal with until Sprint can get everything going. The only suggestion I can make is to either force roam with a Verizon PRL, or look into switching carriers. Soon enough we will see Sprint's efforts to improve the network, and hopefully they're enough to compete with others. But until then we either have to deal with it or leave.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jr71x:
It isn't just sprints network, it's these two last lte phones they've put out. Put a different phone on it'll smoke these... I can pull 1Mbps all day on my og evo but on evo lte or s3 I'm lucky to get .1Mbps. Sprint will not give me an answer and I've dug pretty deep into customer support...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] neoshi:
Kinda makes me wonder if this is another patent thing HTC tried to design around but didn't do so well.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SoraX64:
It's probably an issue with your phone. My speeds are just about the same. Pages even seem to load faster.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] air2k57:
You can defend them all you want, but you know that it is crap, right?

In order for each and every tower to be in this bad of a condition and to be this ancient, sprint had to have been ignoring it for quite some time. We can diss other carriers all we want, but all of them are way more consistent and faster than sprint just about everywhere, and don't usually have these awful bottlenecks that sprint has.

What other carrier has this many tower outages which last for weeks and uneducated cs reps who don't even know that there's a problem? What other carrier has their systems crash every day basically in their retail stores?

Point is, sprints practices are now really costing them, all network vision will do is modernise an ancient network and help it catch up with others. And even then, still slower than hspa. I doubt this upgrade will yield much improvement some time after its live and sprint abuses it again.