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[Microsoft Surface] Donny1987:
On a Swedish web shop the following prices are released:

Microsoft Surface for Windows RT 32GB [RELEASE: Q4 2012]	1,017 USD / 827 EUR

Microsoft Surface for Windows RT 64GB [RELEASE: Q4 2012]	1,454 USD / 1,183 EUR

Microsoft Surface for Windows Pro 64GB [RELEASE: Q1 2013]	1,892 USD / 1,538 EUR

Microsoft Surface for Windows Pro 128GB [RELEASE: Q1 2013]	2,183 USD / 1,775 EUR

These prices have been calculated via Google: SEK -> USD / EUR

Source

Let's hope that Sweden is just expensive and the prices will be better in other countries :p
[Microsoft Surface] _RTFM_:
Those prices are incorrect. Thankfully.
[Microsoft Surface] Donny1987:
At least I provided a source, what is your source? :confused:
[Microsoft Surface] nbates66:
i believe that price matches a source I heard about that had essentially made-up high prices for their own benefit.

can't find relevant link atm yet though sorry.

EDIT: found

http://www.binlogs.com/rumor-microsoft-surface-tablet-priced-1000/
[Microsoft Surface] Donny1987:
Very well then, thanks for the link. I'm glad it's not the real price :victory:
[Microsoft Surface] Wupideedoo:
I know that the base model iPad is only 16GB while the base model Surface for Windows RT is 32GB, but that is nearly irrelevant. What normal people will see is the barrier of entry. Why should I get a Surface for $500 when for the same price I can get an iPad, which is already well established as a product, especially when all of my friends have iPads and as an average consumer the vast majority of my purchasing decisions are influenced by my social circle?

Also, the profit margins on the iPads are so high that if Apple wanted to come out with the iPad 4 for $400, they easily could. They could probably do it with the same 32GB of storage too.

So I would say it needs to be cheaper than the iPad, but then that gets dangerous. If it is too cheap, not only will Microsoft justify the hardware partners concerns, but you also trivialize your product. If it is sold cheaply, it is viewed as a low quality object.

I think the pricing needs to look like this:

Surface RT 32GB - $449

Surface RT 64GB - $549

Surface 8 Pro 64GB - $749

Surface 8 Pro 128GB - $849
[Microsoft Surface] phailyoor:
I estimate RT to be around $400 to $500. That's way too much considering that Surface RT is mostly worse than the iPad, even if it comes with more Office and more SSD space.

Surface pro will probably be inline with/slightly over current ultrabooks. Probably $700-$1000. Not too bad imo.
[Microsoft Surface] icecreame:
nexus 7 with that super gpu and quad core cpu is so cheap, and noone think it's low quality. lack of options but not low quality at all. and the fact that people aren't independent in their choice is the happiness of this companies, u buy an ipad cuz u see everybody else with ipad. but u forget that surface is just a laptop with touch screen and disconnectable keyboard, whitch is so awesome to me it have usb port too. can u connect a pendrive to any other tablet ? no! surface is the only one now to have that. so surface with ipad price : totally worth it
[Microsoft Surface] tenet420:
My Gtab on ICS can make use of pendrives...
[Microsoft Surface] Talderon:
Nothing is official yet on the price points, but what the talk is, the prices should look similar to:

Surface RT starting at $399 (32GB)

Surface Pro starting at $699 (64GB) (the Pro is the one with the i5 processor)

You can see the storage breakdown here:

This is NOT counting the RAM in the machines, this is pure storage space that will be housed on integrated SSD drives.

Source: http://www.microsoft.com/global/surface/en/us/renderingassets/surfacespecsheet.pdf
[Microsoft Surface] Shawn:
RT $400-600

i5 $800-1000

I'm getting the i5 for sure.

sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
[Microsoft Surface] Greywolf_Ghost:
Nothing set in stone....but the latest so called leak, which as of late have not been far off......

Asus Tablet RT 32G starts at $599 and $199 for keyboard dock.

http://www.wpcentral.com/asus-winrt-tablet-prices-leak-leading-wild-assumptions-success-and-failure

If MS comes cheaper I'll buy because I want to have a go at the RT model, but if this is what new is going to cost, I'll snap up an old Tablet and upgrade to Win8.

Unless Nokia makes a Tablet to match the 920.
[Microsoft Surface] ohgood:
mmm, $800 asus, vs a ultra book for $450 or so?

OK, count Asus as a never-sell.
[Microsoft Surface] TravisAntonio:
Exactly what I said and touchscreen doesn't cost too much.
[Microsoft Surface] epagib:
Tough decision for Microsoft. They are starting waaaay behind and trying to catch up.

If they sell Surface for a profit ($450 plus) no one is going to buy. IPad mini anyone?

If they subsidize the surface rt and sell them for cheap (less than $300) then its going to piss off HP and Dell and Levono, etc. But much more people are going to buy = faster adoption of win8. Remember the fire-sale for HP webos tablet? It was sold out nationwide less than a day! Hell i tried to get one but couldnt!

If it was me, I would sell Surface RT for cheap. Would lead to much faster adoption of win8 and force 3rd party PC vendors to innovate better.

Win8 needs to be successful for microsoft to stay relevant. Lots of sales for Surface would be a good start. Ballmer, you listening??!!

Sent from a SYNERGIZED GalaxySIII
[Microsoft Surface] Greywolf_Ghost:
I think Microsoft could have run the RT version a little bit better. Right now there is wild guesses as to price, and they could end up with hardware vendors more then a little mad, and holding hardware that will not sell.

The inside guts of the Surface should have been set as standard. Much like Windows Phone. All Tablets would on the inside be the same. The only change between them is the case.

That way Microsoft could have talked terms with Hardware parts supply, then split it between the ones they picked to build Surface Tablets. This way keeping price down.

Each PC Maker could then cut a deal with their Plastics supply to make a cheaper outer case.

Right now Asus, Dell and who ever else has developed their own process, which will reflect in it's price.

So if Microsoft slashes the price of their device, other RT devices will not sell. Unless Asus, Dell take a big bath to also cut price.

The ideal way.....

Microsoft offers the only version of RT (sub contracted out to other makers for supply reason), and the PC makers handle the Pro versions.

This way Microsoft sets the price on RT, and the market will settle the Pro version.
[Microsoft Surface] ka-la:
http://etips.dummies.com/contest.asp?sid=BGK4X6BQRVYTFXEK2RUA&id=149 notice the Approximate Retail Value: $350.00 USD with 2 books. 299 Surface anyone??
[Microsoft Surface] Greywolf_Ghost:
That looks like a site that is alot like the Win the iPad crap.

I find it strange they would know the price before Microsoft has gone on record.

Samsung has already gone on record and their RT version is 550 (GBP)

Convert that to US or CDN and it will be over $1000.
[Microsoft Surface] ka-la:
usually they dont convery with the currency. So I'd say that if the Samsung costs 550£ then it would cost something like 599/699 in us. Goods in UK are more expensive. For example: the new ipad costs 400£ in UK which would be a bit over 600$

Also there is nothing wrong with the site, its the site who makes these "dummies" books you can pick up in book store. It's just they give away a surface with a guide to surface and windows 8
[Microsoft Surface] tayfelix:
Uk prices are with VAT. Is it taxes? Zzz eying for a surface RT.. Hope it cost below 600.
[Microsoft Surface] vickee4u:
Surface

If MS want to conquered the market

they need competitive pricing

proper updates as they are giving in XP

till now They have cheated people in mobile Os

no proper updates, many undone things

surface to be price between 200$

another 500$
[Microsoft Surface] NineT9:
$900

Looks like the official price is $900!

Some were under, some were over, I guessed $1,200 lol

http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/29/microsoft-confirms-surface-with-windows-8-pro-pricing-starting/
[Microsoft Surface] ohgood:
damn, even the post-fail fire sale prices will be too high.

sadface.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kishiyama Daikogi:
One day I installed a beta firmware for the G2/vision. The beta gave my phone a weird glitch where any apps that I installed would instantly force close afted I restarted the phone, but it would work fine if it was uninstalled and reinstalled. I installed the new firmware and now newly installed apps work. The problem is that apps that were installed while the beta firmware was installed still do not work after I restart my phone, even after I unintall and reinstall the app. There must be something left from the app even after
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kishiyama Daikogi:
Now not even new apps work, although some of them just lose all of their data. Can someone help? I'm using cyanogenmod for vision. Thanks in advance.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kishiyama Daikogi:
I think that I found the problem. I looked in the error reports and found out that the app requires but cannot get permission to fine or coarse location. Now all that I need to do is fix that. My guess is that the phone is not correctly storing permissions. Can someone help?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kishiyama Daikogi:
The error seems to be with the Parcel class that gives developers such a hard time. Can anyone help?
[HTC One S] mteezey:
I went through the HTC unlock process normal way I have on many phones now. But still have tampered above unlocked I have seen a few.posts in threads about this butpst were relating to people that used the auto tool. Has anyone figured out what's causing this? And or a fix. I haven't tried toess with itmuch I work so much I don't have to much time to play with it atm.
[HTC One S] Pheroh:
I did some brief research on this topic and it seems that just unlocking the bootloader following the HTCDev instructions wont show the tampered flag. Once you flash anything, you will get it. Be it recovery, root, custom rom, etc.

I think the one-click tool actually does something more than just unlocking or does it differently so the tampered appears immediately with just unlocking but I could be wrong. I am new to the whole android modding scene ;)

Doesn't seem like a big issue if you intend to mod anyway.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendallc123:
I just got a Kindle today and decided to root it. Here are my exact steps.

Downloaded latest KFU

Ran it, ran input 2 for permanent root

installed TWRP and FireFireFire

made a backup of my current rooted stock ROM

wiped everything

flashed CM9 reloaded ICS ROM

didn't like the ROM, so I went back into recovery

wiped everything

flashed AOKP ROM

reboot

and nothing.. the screen went black :(

I click the power button and the green light will come on and then everything goes black again
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendallc123:
I reinstalled the drivers and got it to boot in recovery. I wiped cache, dalvik, and factory reset. I tried to boot but it won't boot into anything, it just turns off.

I'll try to restore my nandroid and see what that does

Edit: It rebooted into my nandroid of the stock ROM. Was it just a bad AOKP download? Should I run the perm root =, TWRP recovery instal and FireFireFire install on KFU again?
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kinfauns:
I have no idea why your AOKP install failed, but you should check the MD5 sum on those zip files before you flash any new ROM. You don't need to root stock again if you intend to flash a new ROM, but make sure you have TWRP 2.1.1 and FFF 1.4a installed on your device before you try it again. As long as you have those two piece in place, you can get back to recovery and flash something again if anything else should go wrong.
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RknDroidFreak:
Download a new update zip and give it a try!! check md5 sum first!!
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendallc123:
Alright I have never checked an md5sum. I never really knew it was important! I found out how yo do it and what program to use, so I will definitely do that next time! Thanks
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skizzy034:
What would be the best way to update from 1.73? Should I root, change to supercid, unlock bootloader, and update to 1.85 or root, change to supercid, unlock bootloader, and do the OTA?

I don't just wanna flash a recovery on 1.73 and install a custom rom because I want the updated radios.

I thought the 1.85 ruu was slightly different than the 1.85 OTA. If I remember correctly the build number had a few different numbers and letters. I wonder are the radios and other updates different as well?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skizzy034:
I really wanna get this done. Can anyone answer please?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] _MetalHead_:
On my last phone I rooted and unlocked 1.73, relocked, ran the 1.85 RUU, unlocked, and then flashed CleanROM. That gave me the best performance/battery life vs just rooting and unlocking a device already on 1.85. Performance gains could be placebo but I do know that I had the best battery life on the phone that I did that to. 5+ hours screen on time. If I was in your shoes that's the path I would take.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Skizzy034:
Thanks. I'm gonna try that. It seems the phone that came with 1.85 had the worst battery life of them all. After I flash this one to 1.85 I'm gonna run the ruu on the one that came with 1.85 to see if that helps it.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] godfirst:
I rooted at 1.82, recovery, unlocked, supercid, then flashed cleanRom 3.0 lite which is based off of 1.85/1.88 and haven't looked back.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] droidiac13:
I did it this way too. Seemed the cleanest to me.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yeskay:
Hi All,

I always like to have my clock 10 min faster than actual time. With my galaxy s2, the date and time settings always switches back to Automatic whenever I restart my phone. I am always having to switch it back everytime. is there a way to stop this automatic time set at phone startup? Thanks!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siedus:
Disable 'automatic time zone' and/or 'automatic time' in settings. Or....dont't reboot ;)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yeskay:
Hi siedus, yes I uncheck that option but it keeps coming back once I restart my phone. I am having to do that each time my phone starts up. I notice that immediately after powering on it has the faster time which I had set, but changes back to automatic in about 30 seconds after startup. Wiould love to have some option to prevent this.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ag4751:
I just tried this on my phone as I use automatic time so unticked both automatic time and automatic time zone re booted and it started up on manual time settings and stayed there.

I doesn't revert to automatic time settings by its self, maybe try a factory reset although that will wipe your content and data.
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] panehf:
Has anyone had any luck getting a wired ethernet connection working on their device? I feel like I'm missing some minor piece of configuration that prevents me from getting it working. Here's what I've got so far.

1) compiled asix.ko, usbnet.ko and mii.ko for P5113

2) insmod above modules

3) connect usb ethernet adapter

As soon as I complete this, the following happens:

a) lights start flashing as soon as I connect ethernet cable

b) eth0 becomes a recognized interface

The problem is that I can't get the device to get an ip address. Neither a statically assigned ip address works, nor is one retrieved using dhcpcd. The strange thing is that when I run wireshark and do some port-mirroring on my switch, I see that the DHCP server is offering an ip address to the device, but the device doesn't seem to want to accept it. Traceroutes and pings to my gateway all show "host unreachable" messages.
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] surfergirl:
Usb to Ethernet

Did you solve this? I am a network engineer that would love to see this fixed I have tried a couple of different ones and none of them have worked yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RyanTX:
I'm on build 38 and I get a lot of lag on the lock screen about 60% of the time. The bigger issue though is that when hanging up from a call, I have to hit 'end' like 4 times for it to recognize I'm pressing it. It seems like lag....

I'm on franco milestone 4. Other than that no mods.

Anybody else?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dislplin01:
Yea I actually was talking about it in the aokp thread it lags with scrolling although the scrolling gets better as long as you don't make the status bar transparent that's why I always end up with cyanogen mod in the end it has the most stable and worked on rom out there but you have to give some of those custom options I think the one I miss the most is the ability to change the height of the nav bar
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RyanTX:
I'm with you on cm9. Ive got a nandroid of cm9 ready and waiting. I get the same lock screen lag with it though. It does get better when I overclock and put the minimum around 1ghz. Seems odd it should have to be that high on a phone os.

I love the customization of aokp - especially the center clock. That's why I haven't restored my backup.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] theking_13:
Really? I've run AOKP since Milestone 5 and never gotten this lag. Up to Build 38, I used Franco Milestone 3. Now using Milestone 4, and don't get any of this lag anywhere.

Usually have the CPU set from the lowest, 192 MHz to 729 MHz. Sometimes 1036 MHz, but that's only for gaming. What background apps do you have going on?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thelowend:
I too have Franco M4 and AOKP 38 and I'm having issues with calls...I have to hit "call" twice before I can call someone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] theking_13:
Did you clean flash it, or over build 37?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sd0070:
try the newest franco nightly? also try the different lockscreen settings/setups? im using the default one (ring with only the unlock and camera targets) and rarely lag. also try disabling lockscreen rotation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RyanTX:
I read in another thread about auto brightness making the lockscreen lag. So if the brightness is low and then you unlock it where the brightness is high, it lags.

So I turned auto brightness off and I have no lag now on the lockscreen.

I'm running Franco milestone 4 with my min CPU frequency at like 1ghz.

I'm still getting the lag on the dialer when I hang up.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msedek:
Try franco nightly r194 or linaro franco nightly r194 im on linaro and my phone fly... It improves performance like hell
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
I also run AOKP B39 and I face slight lags here and there.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RyanTX:
Maybe we should go to 38?

I'll look at the linaro kernel. Thanks.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] eskimochaos:
I returned my first HOX due to poor build quality. The second one I received was fantastic; however, I had numerous boot cycle issues. I kept getting "Preparing SIM" card messages and I would go in and out of service. I was left on the road without the ability to even make calls in a full service ATT area.

Apparently there are two manufacturers for SIM cards for ATT. One that starts with a "Q" and one that starts with an "M". HTC phones NEED the SIM card that starts with a "Q" as that is the demo SIM that ATT provided for HTC.

Looking at the two SIM cards next to one another there is a distinct difference between the two of their respective contact areas.

Hope this helps someone.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] skater95:
Has anyone gotten an upgrade cause of faulty razrs? I've had 7 so far and I'm wanting a RAZR. The back to the phone and the sd and sim door is pretty messed up. I didn't do it.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xpsychox:
Speaking from experience.. I've been.upgraded from Droid x to x2.. to the d3 to the bionic and now the razr...4 free.. when u get on the phone.. be nice.. explain ur sitch..tell em that I've been threw 7.. (at this point..they'll look threw their records).. explain what a major inconvience it is for u..having to redownload everything.. set up all the apps u like..ur home screens etc.. (by apps I mean like I use handcent.. I change the color or the message.. color of text..etc) they'll probably say "the manufacture only covers replacement of another phone of the same thing" tell them u understand.. but u don't believe sending the same phone will work...I've had ppl go..."OK..give me a sec..let me see Wut I can do" if that don't work..ask to speak to the supervisor.. when they come on say the same thing... use tiis phrase if its true.. "I understand that the manufacture only covers the replacement of the same phone.. but I've paid x amount of $$ and I expect a device that works.. can we please do something to get me a phone that's will work"

Now.. this may or may not work for u... I've used it in the past... if u can...go into a corporate store...the managers seem to help more cuz ur in there store... use ur jugement tho...good luck rob tho.lemme no now it goes.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cmay227:
I went through 3 and had to push them for a early upgrade. They upgraded me to a maxx but i had to pay the $100 in price difference ...but they gave me a $25 credit for the 16g sd card. Only had the razr for 2 mts. I guess if you've had it longer you could probably get it for no charge. Just be nice and explain the inconvenience it is dealing with the replacements.
[Nokia Lumia 900] eortizr:
so every other Lumia in the world has tango already available but 900 US version (rm-808) whats up with that?

Navifirm shows the Tango firmware for the 710 already, the only lumia without the firmware available is the US Lumia 900:mad:
[Nokia Lumia 900] SlayerX:
Actually it's the North American version with this problem, as Rogers in Canada has no updates either. You can blame the carriers for this , as they requested the 'special' features and locks to be installed. This makes them very unique and not easily upgradeable as the carriers have to make sure their BS software and locks stay in place.

I would kill to be able to replace the startup carrier logo on boot.
[Nokia Lumia 900] Zhariak:
And one thing to add, you guys are even more ahead then us in Canada. We still don't have the update that was released 2 weeks ago for the purple screen and other minor fixes...
[Nokia Lumia 900] darren486:
maybe they want to push out a special update to cure all know existing bugs with the tango update together for you all?
[Nokia Lumia 900] SlayerX:
I certainly hope so
[Nokia Lumia 900] alodar1:
Me don't think so. Tango was signed off and rolled out to carriers many weeks ago. Since then, the carriers have been 'testing'. Any hope of a lot of bugs fixes, is really a dream...though not impossible...because they may be able to add a supplement file to the update. But, no carrier can crack the Tango base code to fix anything....

Anyway, Tango is not the next great hope. Anyone hoping for more that a basic change...like MMS ....should really contact me privately...I have some swamp land for sale. :p
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] metalfan78:
So I got my lte today...so far I love it. I have a strange issue though. I like to have 'touch sounds' enable so I can hear the click when I press on home screen apps. On this phone I hear a double 'click'. Is that normal? Thanks.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jpbme:
Yeah there's kind of a quick double-click sound. Sometimes a very rapid double-click that almost sounds like one click, but sometimes a clear double-click.. at least that's the way it goes for me.

Never noticed before but when I click on anything in the dock (phone, gmail, texts, camera) it does only one click. Kinda weird..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] metalfan78:
It seems like the screen is uber sensitive. Sometimes I just hear one click. It's bugging the hell out of me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] metalfan78:
Anyone else notice the 'double click' sound and have any suggestions? Should I take it back and get a new one?

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