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[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] naira1:
If you read my post carefully, i said i travel alot to very warm countries and i had a Laptop from Lenovo (which by the way is now sold) that get so warm and freezes most of the time especially when using video editing programs. For this reason i need a formidable tablet and am not too sure about the A700.

Don´t get me wrong, it´s a nice device, but just but.......am not too comfortable with the heat. :mad:
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] rushless:
naira1 is correct, since ambient temperatures are a huge factor. Hot climates and the current Acer series probably do not mix. Acer made the decision to put a big battery in the device and this forces all the heat to be concentrated rather than displaced. Acer even mentions the heat in their A510 manual.

The gpu on the A510 pipes the heat on the right side and the A700 probably gets a lot higher in temps. Again, there is a reason that the iPad 3 has a bigger gpu.

I think Anandtech is right with their concerns the Tegra 3 is not efficient with displays above 1280x800. Too much data calculations and pixels for the gpu to push. Perhaps if mainly browsing and watching video it is okay, but anything that leverages the gpu a lot may be an issue.

Maybe Nvidia will make a Tegra 3X, but simply upping clock will only add to the heat.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] acdcking12345:
So if you guys had the Prime now, would you find it worth it to drop the cash down for the Acer A700? I can only have one or the other. I have the prime now. I could sell it and buy this tab, but am I really gaining much?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ajamils:
I am in the same dilemma and most likely I will sell the Prime to move to A700 or Infinity.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] bleclair:
Yep, me too.

Feel really not so good about putting the Transformer Prime on eBay since I've had good luck with mine, but after using an iPad I need more than 1280x800! :D

I'm going to try out the a700, then if the Transformer Infinity reviews are awesome I'll probably move over.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] qw1rt2:
.. i just added another 2 pics with the notify bar for you .. that's how it always appears on the two orientations .. ;)

.. is it different on the a510 ?

:D
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] acdcking12345:
Hey what is your tab sitting on?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] qw1rt2:
.. it's just a stand i got from amazon .. ;)

:D
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Latoc:
Hey, what's this bluetooth keyboard ?

I saw it on some youtube videos but never found out what it was. Looks very functional and small.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] deviouskater:
The notification bar on the a700 is different from the the a510. That's pretty cool
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] acdcking12345:
Just sold the Asus Prime last night. Shipping out today. I bought the Acer...

I sure hope I have better luck with it over the Prime..:mad:
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] DЯΦiDi@П:
Must be this one: http://gadgetsin.com/rii-mini-wireless-bluetooth-keyboard-with-touchpad.htm
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] rushless:
I look forward to more reviews, since I am only guessing based on my own experience with the A510 (got too warm for me) and the benchmarks from Anandtech- then extrapolating with a MUCH higher res display.

Seems the A700 can only get hotter and take a hit on battery life. Not to mention the higher resource game emulators will take a hit due to the higher resolution display. That said, if you do not use emulators and mainly browse the web and read books/comics, I can see the appeal :) The dark side is anything that leverages heavily on the GPU will get hotter than the A510. No way it can not if the only difference is the display on this model.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] qw1rt2:
.. yes, that's the one :) .. and it's very practical ;)

:D
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Screwedupsmitty:
Just got mine, I'll post a review once all my apps update and charging finishes. I have a bluetooth keyboard too, the iGO XTBT01, used it on my old phone to take notes in class way before tablets existed. I like it :)
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] XooLoo:
Will receive mine on Friday!

Mine will get here on Friday... My very first Android tablet... Have owned all 3 different versions of i$#% (can I use the i-word here? :p), so it'll be interesting to see how it differs from those... Hopefully, only in great ways. I am not too worried about the back temperature issue since I won't be doing much gaming on it. My biggest concern is the brightness of the display. Have seen/read different reviews, and I think it all boils down to be a personal preference to a degree. I won't be using mine much in very bright daylight anyway, so I think I will be OK for the most part...

FWIW, I have been using iphone since the very first days it came out; somewhere along the road gave Galaxy S II a shot, but at the time for whatever reason I was under-impressed with it and went back to my iphone; but recently switched to Verizon from AT&T and decided to give Android another shot--got me an HTC Rezound, unlocked the root and flashed the ROM and WOW WOW WOW!!! Un-freaking-believable! I don't know if I will EVER go back... Just pre-ordered a Galaxy S III for my second line and can hardly wait... :D
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Screwedupsmitty:
I hear you on being tentative about the screen, scared me to the point where I canceled my preorder and ended reordering about thirty mins later. IMO the brightness is not an issue. At max brightness I actually squinted and turned it back down to auto. The review you mentioned scared me as well, but a non issue for me. Heat issue is warm even when browsing, not hot but warm, I'll update of I find time to game tomorrow. So far, very happy
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] skyFx:
In mine the only one, that crashes and reboots every 30-60min -even in standby mode- ?

Except of that I'm quiet satisfied...
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Screwedupsmitty:
Think i remember a complaint of that with the a510. Try a factory reset. That worked for some people.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] richB7:
Got my A700 yesterday. Turned it on out of the box and it had nearly a full charge. Used it for several hours and haven't plugged it in yet. Screen is fantastic and yes it does get warm but not overly so. The only thing I'm a little concerned with is a slight lag on some screen functions. Not sure whether that is significant yet.

I'm coming from a Galaxy Tab 7.7 which I like and prior to that 2 primes that I got rid of almost immediately. I'll try disabling some of the bloat ware to see if it helps some of the screen responsiveness.

Update:

Well I tried several things to diminish the screen lag, alternate launchers, disabling bloat ware but those actions did not help. Finally, as someone else suggested here, I disabled the ring thing and that made a huge difference in performance.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] acdcking12345:
Yes, the screen is fantastic....I do also get lag when I have a live wallpaper, so I just dont use one. Otherwise, it zooms along.

I would definitely try out a custom rom when they are available though...I miss root, since my Prime had it as well..
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Latoc:
Try Nova Launcher. It flies on the desktop without any lag.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] dvboy:
This YouTube video doesn't make its navigating look very responsive at all....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKJ0zIt84O8
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Screwedupsmitty:
I can tell you from experience they must have things syncing in the background or have a pre production model. Mine is snappy as hell 36 hours into it. I had the same worries before I got mine, bit am pleasantly surprised with both the screen brightness and the speed. With root, it can only get better. I have noticed a drop in frame rate when playing whaletrail , but the same happened on my gnex until they optimized it.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] appelflap:
That's a weird comparison. First they seem to use a third party e-reader. If it is the one I think it is, I can tell you it doesn't perform good on any device. I bet Google books will be as fluent in page turning as the ebook reader on the ipad.

Concerning the image navigation we don't have much info either. At least it is clear the iPad loads another image browser then the Acer. Question is does it use an optimized html5 version? Does the Acer use a JavaScript or flash version?

I would not consider this video to be informative (at all)
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Beknatok:
I saw some lag initially, but once I started tweaking things, it went away. I turned off virus scanner, Ring, and replaced the launcher with Nova.

Loving this thing so far.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] rushless:
Do not worry about what others think. If you like it and the device suits your wants or needs, cool.

I have my own assumptions, but will need to wait until finding one in a local store to see.

I got the Asus 300 and dock for same price as the 700 and think the Tegra 3 is better suited for 1280x800 displays, but I do not have a 700, so only a semi educated guess.

Was hoping Best Buy would get them, but apparently they are ticked off with the pricing and will hold off until either the A510 is discounted by Acer, our they run out of stock. Keep in mind Best Buy has yet to stock the A510 in stores and online orders only. s
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] agdroubi:
i just want to ask is a700 coming with 3g (is there a sim card slot)??
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] DЯΦiDi@П:
No - A701 is the one with sim card slot.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] lqbweb:
one question.... How warm does it gets just by using it with normal usage... I mean, web browsing, reading PDF, playing through the Android menus, etc...?

Is it getting really hot only when using struggling games?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Beknatok:
Mine gets warm, but heat is subjective.

I put a case/stand on mine, so I don't notice it at all.

That all being said, I have been looking at the Service Manual & thinking about how one might be able to make a primitive heat sink on top of the mainboard to hopefully spread heat dissipation. Would need to open mine first to confirm how much clearance there actually is, but it could be a worthwhile endeavor.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Itchiee:
I've found that turning off GPS and stopping unneeded running programs keeps the heat to a minimum.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] reborb:
Hello:

Have you removed any app?

What about responsiveness in the "desktop"...

And in the browser?

In youtube @1080P?

Is everything smooth?

Thanks in advance
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] fool2x:
If you guys look up in the pdadb you'll find that it's special feature companion core of tegra 3 t30s only runs at 500 MHz.

Does that mean performance and heat issues is coming from the Tegra3?

A 1900*1200 display is Pro, what about the SoC ?

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A very nice tablet otherwise, what if this tablet uses a SoC from Samsung (Exynos 5250) or one of it's quad-core variants?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Kenny94:
Some Tegra games are bucking on the A700 for example GTA 3.

Maybe its the big resolution or a bad transferring of sourcecode to the Tegra 3.

I hope that will be fixed in future :P
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] rushless:
1920x1200 is too much for the Tegra 3 gpu to sustain and not hit the ceiling. Even Apple got that and rather than leave the A5 dual in the new iPad, they invested millions in having a new GPU developed to handle the higher res data needs.

Nothing is for free, so OEMs expecting a Tegra 3 that is already proven to better fit 1280x800 display (when data is involved- not movies) seems odd. Perhaps this issue is why Acer decided to confuse retailers and price it the same as the 510.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Screwedupsmitty:
I remove and freeze everything I can't remove that I don't use. Desktop and browser are both snappy, I use chrome mobile, and YouTube I would say has a little delay, maybe an optimization issue just not as smooth as my desktop drawer and browser.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] reborb:
Thanks for the info :good:
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] californiarailroader:
I got this one from Logitech, works great with the A700!

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/tablet-accessories/android/tablet-keyboard-android

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I am loving mine by the way! Is it perfect? Nope, but it is doing great for me. I had an Asus TF300 before this, I like the A700 MUCH better.

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I just played GTA III on it and it ran fine.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] slvrbllt:
Hello guys,

I have an Icona A510 that as of today has been sent back for repair twice.

I am fed up with the touch screen issues affecting the device.

I guess I will let my little boy play squash with it... we'll see whether it gets more responsive or not.

Before I add a brand new A700 to the Amazon basket, I would like to know if anybody is experiencing any touch screen issues on their A700.

A report from a previous owner of an A510 (who knows what I am talking about) would be pretty much appreciated.

Thank you for your help!
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] 0nebukadnezar0:
Hi, I own a a700 since one week, I have no complain regarding the screen, but I think the resolution is 1920x1080, not 1920x1200, correct? In one game, downloaded on Tegra Zone (sorry I've forgotten the name because I have uninstall it) and in Go Launcher HD (for Tablet) the screen is flashing, but only in this 2 apps. The battery is big enough, the heat of the cover is OK.

I've tested different Launchers, GO Launcher HD, ADW Launcher EX, Nova Launcher, in my opinion, Nova is the best choice for tablets, it works smooth, extremly quick responsive. The a700 manages full HD movies without problems. I use Dolphin HD as web browser. This is my first android tablet and I'm not disapointed in my choice, some problems will be probably fixed in future releases.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] ajamils:
If you like Nova, try Apex. I have found it to be better than Nova (specially after the latest updates).
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Itchiee:
The resolution is 1920x1200, and I'm also using Nova Prime as my launcher and it works extremely well!
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Captain Crypto:
Just plugged it in...

I received the A700 about an hour ago. I plugged it in to give it some juice (it didn't have much). I connected to WiFi and connected it to my Google account, and played a bit with the Ring. The Ring is a cool feature, but I don't know if it will still be there when I install a new launcher. I like the size and weight, and the back of the tablet has a nice grippy feel. It seems to me to be pretty solidly built. I'm giving it another 15 minutes on the charger before I start really playing with it. I'll spend a couple/few hours loading my apps and playing around with the stock launcher before I commit to Nova or the other one.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] californiarailroader:
That's what I'm using as well. I've used Nova, but I always end up coming back to Apex.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] loonix:
Got the A700 earlier yesterday and I am still within the 30 day window to return either the A510 or A700. Man I am so torn. My A510 is AWESOME wrt to battery life. I just primed/trained it real well for longer battery life with the programs I run and the frequency of charging.

The A700 is not even close in that regard. It also gets warm like everyone else has mentioned. The only thing going for it is the sharp display and it is commendable. I somehow managed to run the A510 in a way that it doesn't get warm like others have mentioned but the A700 is beyond me. Perhaps the A510/A700 heat issues are specific to each hardware but I wish the A700 wouldn't get warm :( I may try for a replacement unit but I might be one of the few who retains the A510.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Beknatok:
Unfortunately that is not true. Internally the A510 and A700 are virtually identical except for the screen itself. Read my Heat thread in the Dev section for more details.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] californiarailroader:
I think the A700 has a different GPS chip as well, it shows it having GPS as well as GLONASS, I don't remember the A510 having GLONASS.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] loonix:
Well if that was my first impression, then I would hardly call it unfortunate. I read your MOD and it does seem like a good progress and something that Acer should have heavily worked through on their own instead of having to rely on community mods. I am not returning it right away anyways.

At the moment except for the resolution, for me personally, the A510 has been better in every way so far. Still more testing to come.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] BlogYourEarth:
Hi,

I send my Acer Iconia A700 back to amazon. The usability wasn't so good and the stuttering while I was reading a pdf or opening a app was awful. I did a short video for those who want to see the problem.

Also the hot spot on the right side was a littele bit uncomfortable...

Here is my video:

Acer Iconia A700 stuttering video

This is my little test report about the acer iconia a700

http://www.blogyourearth.com/en/smartphone-2/android-smartphone-2/Acer Iconia Tablet A700 Stuttering

Yesterday I ordered the Asus transformer prime TF700T and I hope this one will fulfill all my wishes...

BlogYourEarth
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Itchiee:
Some members seem to be having serious IO issues with the Asus tablet that appears to be inherited from former Asus tablets...

Let us know what your experience is, thanks.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Latoc:
Asus ???
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Webitu:
I think it's great. The battery and screen are really good.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Itchiee:
Yes, the name Asus was mentioned twice in that sentence. :confused:
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] GadjetGirl59:
I have had my A700 for about 3 wks and I love it. Mind you, I am not a gamer but I do play card games and no closing of my programs. I have not had any problems as mentioned by others. I got mine thru Amazon also. I do notice some warmth on the right lower side but nothing to complain about. And besides, I use a stand -up case so I am not holding the tab.

The screen is beautiful, crisp and clear. I can now get HBO-go and just great to look at.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Latoc:
Not sure what to think... oh well.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Turbojugend:
Looking at this tablet, want to get something to maybe play the odd game, emulators, couch surf, read comics and watch the occasional tv/movie on. In owners opinions is the extra res worth it even though the tegra3 can barely push it or would the A510 be the better choice? Thanks
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] BENETNATH:
i've got the a510 and it's typically the use i have.

real question is balance between higher resolution and lower battery lasting..

my choice was to have longer battery ;-)
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Itchiee:
If reading and watching movies is your thing I would opt for the higher resolution.

Playing games and watching movies in the higher res isn't an issue on this tablet for me.

I believe that ICS isn't optimized for the larger resolution since this is new territory.

And this can be temp fixed by using a different launcher like Nova which works much better then the stock launcher.

And battery life wont be that drastically different, still over 8+ hours at least... Not sure you'd use it for 8 hours straight though.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] BENETNATH:
from last review i saw, you gain around 15% of battery last with a510

for resolution, i really don't know what would be the feeling to have higher res, did not test a700
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Turbojugend:
I was just wondering if I did choose to play the odd game, does the Tegra3 work better with the A510 (lower res) since I have heard the higher res screen really taxes the gpu.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Itchiee:
You'd have a higher frame rate on a lower resolution screen, but still the upgrade to full HD is worth it.

I also have a Samsung Galaxy 10.1 which arguably has one of the better screens on a tablet and this Acer is way past it in awesome.

The higher resolution makes a big difference!
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Turbojugend:
Thanks for the input everybody. May pick one up tomorrow if they come in stock.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] rushless:
The problem is hardware, since the device has the same chipset and ddr2 memory of the 510. There is a reason the 700 is the same price of a device that released just a few months before it. Even Acer gets the trade-off (slow performance, cheap price). The gpu is pushing 140% more pixels.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Turbojugend:
I tried it out at Futureshop today, nice device. One last thing, can someone confirm this plays 720p/1080p mkvs back, without issues?
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] jpearn:
Using DicePlayer or MXPlayer playing from a 64GB MicroSDXC card with no issues on 1080p :)
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Turbojugend:
Thanks for the input, looks like this will suit all my needs then.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] californiarailroader:
Ditto here on that.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] SNRatio:
Screen is beautiful, heat is an issue with many applications/use situations. I don't think it is very slow, but things are clearly not optimal. The worst thing, IMHO, is that the CPU temperature keeps us from using the Tegra 3 fully over prolonged periods of time. Still I find it very handy. It was very nice just to hook on a USB hub with PC keyboard + mouse to the USB port, and it simply worked. Same with a WD Passport HD. Bluetooth also works well as far as I have tested it.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Turbojugend:
I feel the heat, but it is no hotter than having a macbook pro on your lap, so I don't think it is going to be an issue or wear out quicker.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] silverball.slayer:
I've noticed inconsistency in the volume and the stock browser has some issues with certain web pages. The display is certainly nice and has a much better refresh than the displays that were commonly used last year that showed a lot of black smearing. I don't like where the usb connector is (bottom middle) and it lacks a full size usb like the 510. It's a mixed bag so far, I was hoping for a bit better performance than it has.

Rob
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] Turbojugend:
This device is what I expected it to be, it has it's problems but for the most part it is great. I have yet to use a "great" Android device, and imo this is what the software suffers from most, so many devices, and no time to hash out all the code and make it perfect for each device, but this is Android to me. Once and AOSP comes out for this, it will be great. It runs pretty good now, that I have rooted and removed a bunch of crap with Titanium Backup, I may not even both with a custom rom when one comes out.
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] SNRatio:
Yes, but when it reboots because of heat.. Monitoring CPU/GPU temperature on the A700 is interesting, but it may be a bit saddening too ;)
[Acer Iconia A700 and A510] rapatelrocky:
I've had heat issues in a hot room, constantly charging it and playing games. Since then with some disabling processes, etc. got battery use all day today web over bluetooth tethering and it was in a case someone said caused problems and still doesn't get hot. Obviously gaming/CPU use and charging can make it hot. Two "hangs" in just over a week - one screen blacked out today and one at beginning when I was fiddling a lot. But disabling DRM service like on my Epic 4G does save lots of battery.