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[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] mathew1234:
uhh...I remember when our thread was peacefull(kinda:D)

but now look at this place... Its all becoming a mess.. Lets hope dhiru and adi_pat can do it!!!!!!!

anyway I hope for the best of our community whatever happens! :D:p
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] pulser_g2:
Nothing.

Because it's a pile of sh1t.

There you go, you got the answer you want. I make plenty of stuff for the Note 2 that would work fine on Jellybean Touchwiz on any recent Samsung phone.

You want to tell MY staff where they can and cannot post? That sounds to me like someone needs a major attitude check right now before he vanishes off the face of this site.

Quit being butthurt here, and see the bigger picture here guys.

PS. the above IS an attack on mods, and I will not see them put up with you guys causing a problem like this in future.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] pulser_g2:
In this case the members are being self-entitled whiny little a-holes.

Guys seriously, if you can't see this... Take a step back, and read through this again. You are all sitting here whinging about some developer putting his time in FOR FREE to do something a phone was never intended to do...

And now you're whinging and having expectations.

Seriously? If you can't see the problem here, just keep on reading it over and over again. You have no right to expectations from him, as XDA is a hobby.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] pulser_g2:
We don't care about some Facebook group. What is here is what is happening. And that gives us a VERY bad impression of some people here...
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Misledz:
Well you have done your part I agree, I've seen your half, hence why I quoted "one's that actually count than the one's who don't know what they're talking about" I don't even know who he is but at this rate I don't think I'll get to know him much longer :silly:. I would consider his post but then the post # , and join date should vouch for how long he's been around to see you do your thing. For the ones that count I apologize for you having to come down and visit our not-so-popular thread.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] vishal24387:
Ya you are right. Definitely expecting a free work from a developer is wrong. We all accept that. But you are mainly missing one thing. Our community very very small as compared to note2, galaxy S, s2, s3 etc. So donating a phone of 20k from small community by keeping a faith on developer's promise is really a big thing for us. Forget about money. But before donating phone if developer is going to promise us that he will definitely work on it (we dont care final result. We just care efforts) but after getting a phone after few days if developer become too busy then what will u expect from us...?? Dont we feel bad?? But still we all kept patience for 7-8 months which is not a small time span. And all of sudden if developer is saying that phone is lost from home while repairing/moving some home related stuff then what you expect from us??? Obviously we are human being. Definitely we feel bad. And more imp thing is that if moderator is not at all understanding our emotion just by continuously taking side of developer who didnt take care of donated device then obviously we feel biased.

We are not here to fight with developer or moderator. We are just here to let you guys understand peacefully that we had kept a lot of patience & now when things had gone wrong then please at least try to understand our feelings, emotions
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] silentcontrole:
so if you say that you are a NOTE 2 developper so what the hell are you doing on my phone forum ?? be logic plz :mad:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jerdog:
I'm sorry - I must have missed the memo where this was made your phone forum.

Wait - that's right. It didn't happen - and it doesn't need to be explained. What you need to do is sit down and have a nice glass of warm milk and let the big boys talk, mmk?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] pulser_g2:
First of all, "be logic please" means nothing... That's just showing yourself up here...

Second of all, let's compare whose forum this is... Are we familiar with top trumps?

Junior member vs Dev Admin, ERD, SM

17k posts vs 6 posts

Many thanks vs not many thanks

Many development threads vs not many development threads

It is nice to see you think this is your forum... But it's not...
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] silentcontrole:
it's not your forum too ,am i right ?? and you are insulting the phone and the forum ! so where is the advocate again ? does he read just our posts and forget yours ??

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so you read the last post and you just come like this and start talking ... plz undestand what's happening here beffore you think of writing something "i'm just saying" and sorry we don't have milk anymore ... can i take some cofe or tea ?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jerdog:
Hmm - I read a bunch and see there are a bunch of butthurt, whiney little kids in here complaining about a donation they gave and now things haven't turned out like they wanted and so they feel the need to start acting their age. I think that pretty much sums up the last say 100+ posts. So before you go proclaiming yourself to be the ever-living-voice-of-reason, maybe you should get out of your basement and enjoy some nice fresh air.

And sorry to hear you don't have any more milk in your area of the world. Whatever will you put in your coffee and tea?

EDIT: Looks like he will be hopefully enjoying some nice fresh air and will go looking for milk
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] egzthunder1:
I read a similar comment (not sure if it was you in fact) earlier in the thread. If money is so important and such a donation could have meant a month's worth of food for your family (paraphrased quote), then I have to say that you guys TRULY need to get out of the site if you think that donating to an unknown developer is more important than feeding your family.

As I stated earlier, a donation is a gift, something that does not have any strings attached to it. Something that you freely and out of your own good and free will give out to someone, expecting nothing in return. You getting pissed at him not being able to dev anything (which is not true either if he gave you guys knowledge of UART) after you donated a device is the intellectual equivalent of you lashing out at the government (or whoever handles lottery) because you played the lottery and didn't win.

Last but not least, we are not siding with anyone here. Hell, aside from resident forums mods, most of us don't even know hillbeast, I know I have never come across him before, so as for us being biased/sided... forget about it. I am talking merely from a factual side line based on what I have read, not what anyone has told me. All we see is that this guy was given a phone in hopes that he could get something working on a device not intended for it. It didn't finish happening, some other people are still going, the world still spins....

You have to remember that a donation does not entitle you to anything, let alone harass a developer.

Last call for keeping this thread on topic before it gets closed!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] egzthunder1:
Told you....

See ya soon.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] hillbeast:
You can flash kernels with ODIN, but not ROMs. update.zips are better anyway. They're quicker and smaller to manage, and easier for developers to create.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] chongns:
my phone

stock rom with BCK orignal beta13 kernel

get 3095 (CPU:941, GPU:1069, RAM:411, IO:674)

FW: DXKP9

OC 1.2G max 300M min
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] crazbanditz:
Yea... but have to sign the update.zip.... if not will not work with stock kernel. Cos people nid to revert back to stock for warranty?:confused::cool:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] hillbeast:
If you are running the stock kernel then flash a kernel which includes CWM and problem solved. As for reverting back to stock for warranty, that will still work fine. You just can't use ODIN to flash a ROM if you're going to be using kernel 3.x. Flashing back again will be fine.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] hillbeast:
I overclocked it to 1.2GHz like you and set the governor to performance and now I get similar results. Well at least Linaro didn't reduce performance, it just didn't increase them either...

EDIT: However benchmarks are meaningless. The true judge of performance is how it feels in the hand day to day. If people can give me feedback on how it performs it would be nice. I just want to know whether Linaro actually helps or if it's a load of crap.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] crazbanditz:
Hmmm... but on general intel Linaro is supposed to generally increase phone speed by two times it default. Isnt it?:cool:

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Ohhh... so flashing the update.zip will make the phone totally stock for warranty too just like odin? Kernel and all will go back to stock?:eek:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] hillbeast:
Two times is an exaggeration. It's simply a cross-compiler. If it could unlock that much more performance then everyone would be using it by default. It might increase performance by a certain amount but I can't see anything giving it that much more speed.

And no, flashing the update.zip won't send it back to stock, you can use ODIN to flash back to stock by flashing a stock ROM.

Also off-topic, but the Galaxy SL has better audio quality than the S2. I've been banging on about the audio quality of the S2 for a while and this just rubs it in. Both my G3 and the SL have better sound chips. Yamaha don't know crap about making audio equipment. They should go back to making motorbikes. They ruined the S2. The G3 and the original Galaxy S used the Wolfson WM8994 sound chip which was FANTASTIC. Brilliant sound quality and huge amounts of software support, and then they decided to use a garbage Yamaha codec that can't reproduce bass properly. Thanks Samsung...
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] loSconosciuto:
The last XDA_Bam's kernel I used was built with Linaro GCC 4.6-2011.11, maybe it was BCK 13 or 12, I can't remember.

Which version of the toolchain did you use?

I'm interested because few days ago I tried to build a kernel using two of the lastest linaro toolchains, but the phone didn't boot (actually with the lastest version I couldn't even compile it) and gave up (I'm not a dev, I was just curious because of this Linaro hype).

No problems with "Linaro GCC 4.6-2011.11"
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] crazbanditz:
Hmmm... But u said we cant flash Roms via ODIN anymore?:confused: Kinda confused sorry.:D
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] hillbeast:
I used 2011.10. Guess that's why there is no boost :p

Yes, I mean you can't flash ROMs when you are using kernel 3.x. If you are going to use an old kernel then you can flash old ROMs, and you can flash an old ROM over top of kernel 3.x, and flash a new kernel over top of kernel 3.x, but you can't use ODIN to flash a ROM for use with kernel 3.x.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] XDA_Bam:
With my latest build (14rc20) I get 2864 on (CPU:906, GPU:1047, RAM:395, IO:516) stock XXKPQ, 300-1200 MHz, benched with external SD as "SD-card". The difference is within the limits of measuring precision for every value except the SD-card. I guess you benched on the internal one ;)

CPU and RAM are off. Maybe there was some app running in the background.

I doubt that this is responsible for the difference. Anyway, the toolchains don't matter that much. I doubt that anybody can show me evidence that changing it improves performance ;) But for the record: I compile with -O3 since using the Linaro toolchain.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] chongns:
yes, i use the internal SDcard

rerun for ext SD

2881 (CPU:927, GPU:1070, RAM:409, IO:475)

SDCard Class 4 8Gb
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Hetalk:
I just tried to find my AnTuTu benchmark score with CM9A7 with vurrut 1.7 kernel and

with supercharger 1.6.

SDCARD 8GB external sandisk

CPU master 300-1200 Scaling SmastassV2

Total Score : 2894

CPU : 939

RAM : 233

GPU : 1056

I/O : 466

I'm not sure how to read this score.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] chongns:
U in the wrong thread.

Btw, higher is better.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Hetalk:
I see hillbeast asked for AnTuTu benchmark numbers for this device.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] arindammanidas:
I'm not sure about this but does linaro require you to optimize the source code for use with linaro cross compiler and take advantage of it.... ? I may be wrong....
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] hillbeast:
I asked for peoples scores to see if Linaro did boost performance.

I don't know.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] crazbanditz:
Ummm... so basically once I have Kernel 3.x I cant flash via Odin but i can flash kernels... then I use kernel to flash older kernels like cf root and etc... and then can flash to stock using Odin once again?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] hillbeast:
Yes.

10 chars.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bscraze:
You can't flash roms that require kernel 3.x if I don't interpret wrongly :p

Edit: I'm wrong oops :X

Cheers:)

Sent from my GT-i9003 powered by Stable and Smooth CyanogenMod 9!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Misledz:
I'm sure the mods have better things to do than wait for who comes up with the next stupid reply. So If possible can we have this thread locked? With sugar on top? The one who had "led" this project has left, but the one who will resume it will keep us posted and wardfan can always unlock it. Until then doing so would stop the ETA posts and "America's Next Banned RoleModel"

PS: I wasn't kidding when I said I wanted XDA Shirts, ironically XDA Portal posted about XDA Shirts, talk about deja vu.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] egzthunder1:
Makes sense.

Thread locked for now. If you all need anything/ get ready to start talking about the subject matter at some point, make sure you contact your forum mod (please note that Wardfan is no longer a mod in this area).

Thread locked.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Skander1998:
What he said is right, you are able to flash kernels only from ODIN, when you flash a new kernel (2.6.x) you go back to like it was before, you can flash everything from ODIN), so it's not a problem.. really.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Skander1998:
Updated the FAQ with the latest questions/answers here :)

And cleaned the thread with hide tags to make it easier to read.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jamsori:
Bahaha!

Good list though - thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Napstar:
Try this patch for the latest gcc4.7 toolchain.

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/ec1ac589d49081286164246fbaaba0012ae7ecac

I have not used it as of yet.

Will check when I return home.

P.S. In my previous tries I had compiled kernel using this newer toolchain but could not get the device to boot. I had patched only bridge_pub2sec.o to work with newer version of gcc. Now I will try and patch misc.o, lib1funcs.o and others too. Hope they help my device boot.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] alfrix:
i've also tried the newer 4.7 with my kernel and the patches to make it compile but it doesn't boot, it gets stuck on the bootlogo, and without uart capabilities it's a no-go from my side for the old kernel...
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] loneagl:
Just saw HTC one x...how come it's kernel is 2.6.39???
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Skander1998:
They probably back ported all the stuff.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] loneagl:
Meaning it's not jellybean ready??
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Skander1998:
I don't know anything about that device (The HTC devices in general).

Anyways, this is about the i9003 and our kernel, so who cares.

Edit: there, Jan answered you :)

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[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jan3586:
Even the transformer prime is like that, we wont know for sure because jellybean isnt even announced yet. Maybe 3.x kernels for them are in the works. Nvidia and linux arent really friendly these days if we base on linus torvalds' recent comments regarding nvidia.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] hillbeast:
Because its HTC and HTC is ****.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] :
ICS

WIll this fix the problems of ics like the video recording,H/W,......

and fill this will not support odin for any other things how we will flash a stock Rom then,,:D:D
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bscraze:
First, search. Anyway yes it will fix, you can flash stock rom after flashing another kernel that is not 3.x

Cheers:)

Sent from my GT-i9003 powered by RemICS S III-looking rom!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] hillbeast:
Yes. ICS was built for kernel 3.0.

As for the ODIN thing... can someone please put this in the FAQ as I am tired of answering this question:

With kernel 3.x you can still flash new kernels on ODIN.

With kernel 3.x you will not be able to use ODIN to flash a ROM which is designed for kernel 3.x (these will be highlighted when they are released) as these ROMs will be in a filesystem/block device structure that is compatible with ODIN (technical mumbo jumbo that I intentionally used to say that it's not going to work)

With kernel 3.x you can still flash an old 2.6.35 kernel back onto the phone.

With kernel 3.x you can still flash an old ROM that uses kernel 2.6.25 back onto the phone (Gingerbread/Froyo) to go back to stock versions, you just have to install the stock kernel as well at the same time
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Skander1998:
Added to the faq :)

If anyone asks an already answered question, just ignore them, and just report their post. :p
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] xGiox:
official ics rom for se arc(or arc s not 100% sure) is running on 2.6 kernel,but performance dropped a lot compared to gingerbread,i am talking about smoothness,i am not sure about games and rest since it my friends phone,and i was using it for 15 mins only.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Skander1998:
As hillbeast said, ICS expects Kernel 3.x to work properly.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Wahaha123:
I am looking forward for this and how this will change the user experience for us i9003 users. though one quick suggestion once kernel 3.x is released... please put thorough instructions on how to flash roms, older roms, etc. that involves odin... since flashing with odin will be limited to kernels, better add this in for others who are new or not that into flashing... my friend here keeps asking me about this 3.x odin resriction thing he read, i had to keep explaining him about this... he's a i9003 user too... :)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bscraze:
Its all over the thread, hillbeast has explained many times

Cheers:)

Sent from my GT-i9003 powered by RemICS S III-looking rom!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] adaba:
"

[*]With kernel 3.x you will not be able to use ODIN to flash a ROM which is designed for kernel 3.x"

I'm still trying to get that...
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] ynshetty:
Guys its simple...it means that u cannot FLASH roms like u do with stock roms that's it..anyways all the others depending on kernel 3.0 u flash via CWM only right so where is the confusion :) and u wanna revert back to stock (if ever u wanted to ...lol)u can flash via ODIN as usual
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bscraze:
Basically, You can only flash kernels via Odin, not roms. After you flash. 2.6.x kernel then you can flash roms via Odin again.

Cheers:)

Sent from my GT-i9003 powered by RemICS S III-looking rom!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Skander1998:
I think the FAQ explains it already more than enough.

So let's just avoid replying to people asking the same questions over and over again. :highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jjable:
cheers

it seems ICS will be working perfectly on i9003 with kernel 3.0:good:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Skander1998:
That's the point of the new kernel :)

So it probably will :)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Wahaha123:
HAHAHA! Well said lol.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Skander1998:
Updated the "news" with the latest info from Hillbeast, sorry for delays but i am a little busy.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] crazbanditz:
I think its using Linaro toolchain and not Linaro optimizations so it probably wont make the phone twice as fast... U may want to check on that :)

Press Thanks if I helped :)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Skander1998:
Alright, added (?) Not sure marks on them and turned them grey until hillbeast explains what this Linaro thing is all about.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Sp8ky:
in fairness, codeworkx said it last year
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] hillbeast:
I think almost every RD has said Samsungs software sucks. The hardware is great, its just held back by terrible software.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] shriom_manerker:
@hillbeast-i've done some searching around and found out that our galaxy sl (or rather omap 3630) has an embedded gpu which is locked at 200 mhz on 2.6x kernels !! changing the frequency didn make any effect at the kernel level.. so my question is .. is there any possibility that it'll work on 3.x kernel ? cus it'll seriously improve our device a lot
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] vishal24387:
@ hillbeast

You are doing really a great job. I just wanted to ask that what exactly you are trying to do to boot kernel 3.0??? I mean to say that have u created a kernel & tried to boot it & if it s not booting then have u tried to take uart log??

Also what will be ur strategy?? Step by step what things u want to achieve with help of uart?? Because by ur posts in development section I am not getting exactly what u are tring to do with uart & device. Sorry for my dumb questions :)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] loneagl:
+1..can't really follow your progress hillbeast..can u elaborate ??:o

Swyped from my RemICS powered sl
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jan3586:
i think right now they are trying to decide on the best partitioning layout. uart log is just for communicating with the chipset while linux and android have not booted yet ( meaning you cant take dmesg and logcat yet). after allowing uart debugging, they have to prepare the kernel with the device drivers( i think they are on this stage, thus the partition layout discussions for the nand partition).
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] hillbeast:
Yes it has the PowerVR SGX530. I don't know. Maybe. It depends if it is locked by hardware or software. It could have a limitation in the hardware preventing it from exceeding 200MHz.

I have gotten UART mostly going. I see a UART output from the device from the time the kernel uncompresses, however I want UART before that, I want UART at the bootloader so I can see what it's doing at the bootloader level, unfortunately I don't know if that will be possible without hardware modifications. The UART is output on ttyS2, not ttyS0, and I'd say the bootloader only outputs to ttyS0.

As a result I may not be able to see the bootloader like I want, and this means I cannot diagnose why the kernel will not even display 'Uncompressing Linux..." when I try to boot kernel 3.0.

And yes, you read that right, I have been compiling kernel 3.x all this time, I just haven't mentioned it because people will read that the wrong way and be like 'DERP YAY KERNEL 3.X WORKS SEND ME A COPY NOW!!!'. Yes, I am compiling it, no it doesn't work. At all. I can't tell if the reason I am not getting an output to say it is uncompressing the kernel is due to any of the following reasons:

It's not outputting UART to the correct port

The bootloader is not loading the kernel from the OneNAND correctly

The bootloader is not using the correct starting address (there is an address in the kernel that it should start from, ie 0x8200000, and this could be wrong)

The kernel simply won't boot in it's current state.

I suspect it is one of the first three. The last one doesn't seem right to me, because even without correct mach-code, I should still be able to get to decompression.

That is what I am doing to get kernel 3.x booting.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] simmer14:
hmm.. so i was thinking will this kernel come with usb otg and tv out ? i think our devs should add the modules and see l.. if it'll consume too much time then they can skip it.. but the entire kernel is being written so i think it would be easy for the devs to add these features...
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] hillbeast:
Something else that needs to be added to the FAQ is please don't request features. Right now, we just want the kernel working. These are not priority. Perhaps they will be added later but right now it's not a concern.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Skander1998:
@Hillbeast

Added to the FAQ :)