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[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] sashake:
No see, I don't get it then.

Promising ICS without even knowing it works on the device, well is plain stupid and still not my fault. I did not make them write on their blog "We promise you android 4 in april".

.. Yes the phone is still functional. But it is not the phone The manufactorer told me it would be, as it is missing android 4 which the manufactorer promised me it would get as I bought it.

Either the manufactorer lied to me to get me to buy the phone. Now you can't say that as we have to think that they wanted to give it to us.

But the phone certainly is missing this feature that the manufactorer proclaimed it would get. CARE for what reason he fails to implement it. No one forced Sony to proclaim the Play would get ICS.

They are bound to their word. You can't proclaim you product will have certain features to a specific date, to get people to buy the product, then not give it to them.

just some sentences from the sony page to show you. That the promise was very real, not vage, and therefore - binding.

- With the holiday season around the corner, we’re happy to confirm that the first 2011 Xperia™ smartphones will be upgraded to Android 4.0 starting from end March/early April 2012.

I don't want to complain about not getting it and so on. It's just my opinion that everyone who bought the phone in the time period Sony promised to bring android 4. Actually is entitled to have it, as sony gave him the promise and he "bought it with the product"

.. And no I dont have developers, and yes I will switch the rom to ICS if I really want it... it's not whining for me... it's telling people they should fight it if they are pissed... obviously not here but still.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] KeiranFTW:
Sorry, you got ICS unofficially from Sony, so they fulfilled their promise. If they had released a final version, it would have been as functional as the beta anyway...
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] xlance06:
@keiran first I appreciate ur talent as developer most of ur rom and kernel are ver nice specially ur darkforest.wat happen to you sir bfore I read ur post that ur never buy a sony product again and you angry with sony but now:confused::confused::confused:maybe u send stable ics rom on sony and now ur the one employee of sony:D
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] sashake:
No Keiran, they have not fullfilled the promise. As the promise was my device will get ICS, but I can't. To use the beta I will have to unlock the bootloader which kills my warranty with sony. So... they really can't make me kill the warranty to get to a Beta.

And as someone who produces an outcome you really should get it.

If a manufactorer promises via webblog whatsoever, his product will have a certain feature/funtion/software, the customer can expect it as a given feature the product will have. As it now doesn't get this feature, for whatever reason, I have a faulty product. As it is not the way, the manufactorer proclaimed it would be.

It's like when you get your internet, if the provider says "downloadrate will be at 2mb in february" on the website. You buy, and he fails to get it up to that speed. You are entitled to get some of your money back, even though you still have a functional internet!

:D and yeah I really want to leave it at this point. We exchanged our Opinions, and I get both of yours saying we can't to anything as the phone is still functional. But I also hope you get my opinion :)
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] KeiranFTW:
People change their mind. My post flaming Sony was not well thought, I had to actually understand the reasons before making a decision.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] CloudShepherd:
If you recently bought this phone cause it was supposed to get ics, there is something wrong with you.

That aside, I agree with keiran.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] UndisputedGuy:
These threads remind me of pizza
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] swebosdev:
The regulars are defending Sony, the unknowns are trolling the regulars and the trolls are trolling everyone.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] igor_anta:
This is not a promise. And even more, what this sentence claims did indeed happen, they released ICS for the first batch of 2011 hones in that time. They didn't release it for the Play though, but that's not mentioned in the "promise" you posted.

Here is the first ICS statement from Sony:

“Sony Ericsson is currently rolling out the upgrade to Gingerbread 2.3.4 across its entire 2011 Xperia smartphone portfolio. This software upgrade will be available through a phased roll out in select markets. Beyond Gingerbread 2.3.4, we plan to upgrade our 2011 Xperia smartphone portfolio to the next Android platform made available to us.”

You see, they planned to release ICS for all 2011 phones, a plan we now know didn't materialize for the Play. And for good reasons as well. As Kieran mentioned after the initial disappointment and outrage you just realize that Sony made the right decision.

Not all Play users visit these forums to know all the details, and after they flash ICS on their phones and get a ton of broken games they previously paid for and played the outrage would be out of hand. That would be a massive problem no company would like to have.

Now if you can go on and persuade Gameloft, Rockstar and EA to update all of their Play optimized games to work on ICS than I'm pretty sure Sony will be kind enough to release the update. If you can't do that just grow a pair and unlock the bootloader in order to flash a custom ICS rom, since your life seems to depend on having it :)

And just so you know, a promise in a online blog is not a binding contract, a binding contract is a binding contract :) Cheers!
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] ozzmanj1:
Honestly I am so sick and tired of people *****ing and moaning about ICS. I spent 6 months investigating phones before I bought my play. I came from Motorola and wanted a developer friendly device. I was reading good things about SE. Soon as I heard last summer that r800x could have its bootloader unlocked I jumped for it. U bought my phone then not caring about ICS but about what I could do with my phone on a hacking standpoint. Needless to say I have been happy with my phone and consider it the best phone I have ever had. Is it perfect no. Is it top of the line....hardly. But it works. So everyone who is *****ing about "whaaaa we didn't get ICS I'm so hurt and angry and I have been lied too". That's your fault for buying a phone on what you hoped it would be I stead of what it was when you bought it and saying "hey whatever additional stuff comes out for this phone is just fluff". I look at it like this. I didn't marry my wife in hopes that she would get in better shape grow bigger boobs and look sexier as she got older. Nope. I married my wife for who she was, not for what she could be. Is that a jaded perception .....yeah most likely. But seriously I am just sick of everyone *****ing. We get it your not happy. Unlock your phone get one the ICS roms and be happy and shut up. We all know there are unhappy people. I'm not saying that to an extent people shouldn't feel disappointed. I was and after considering Sony's reasons I am fine with it. So make your peace and deal with it or get a new phone e and save everyone else the tired old moaning and childish complaining. Again. For the fifth time in this message. Everyone please stop. Its not going to help. Its not you g to make you or anyone else in your complaining ballpark feel better its only going to make it worse for yourself. People have ICS options. Use them and end this. Otherwise again.....buy a new phone. RANT DONE !!!!
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] tiagoSequeira:
This threads are becoming lamer than Holland was against Portugal ten minutes ago. .
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] romcio47:
Oh my god, another thread with many "new" and low-post users moaning about the lack of ICS and great developers with experienced users defending Sony (thanks for that).

I think this thread is already destroyed. And I think it deserves only closing.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] sashake:
at igor_anta and overall... to clear it up.

I am happy with my play, I don't need ICS, I know I can get it by unlocking the bootloader and flash the rom.

What you simply fail to get, is that it was promised. I got at least 2 screenshots telling that we will get ICS :-D

I accept Sonys reasons for not giving out the update.

But as I previously said: When you seek an Internet provider, read on his weblog, I promise you the downloadrate will be 5mb in March and you order it. You are entitled to get 5mb of download speed from March on, if the provider fails to deliver that, Care the reason (as it doesn't matter simply), you are entitled to pay him less than the full price. EVEN THO you still have a functional internet!

It is because the provider is bound to what he says on his website. You can't just willynilly proclaim anything.

You actually purchased an internet flat that should have 5mb in March, and thats what you are entitled to get

It's the same with the Play.

It's the same with all products! If the manufactorer promises something on his site about his product. You as a customer are entitled to get it.

EDIT: http://developer.sonymobile.com/wp/2012/02/23/android-ice-cream-sandwich-beta-rom-available-for-unlocked-2011-xperia-smartphone-models/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=android-ice-cream-sandwich-beta-rom-available-for-unlocked-2011-xperia-smartphone-models Quote: " As previously communicated, we will upgrade all 2011 Xperia™ smartphones running on Android to ICS."
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] KeiranFTW:
Oh for -%++%((% sake....

Sony didn't cancel the update because they wanted to laugh at people whining on xda....

They canceled it because they HAD too, its policy, manufacturers aren't allowed to release something that is badly broken or goes against any of Google's policies.......

Did they give the rest of the 2011 line ICS? Yes, so its not like they planned this from the start at all...

I don't want to here any more whining people about Sony and their 'promises' anymore!

You people are cluttering up xda with this crap, and I want people to shut up about it.

Otherwise I won't post here at all. I'll post on the CM development thread and that's it if this continues.

If you want to complain, write a letter, and send it off to Sony, none of us are Sony members, none of us can pull an update out of their ......

This has gone to far....
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] swebosdev:
Don't let a few bad apples spoil the bunch
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] igor_anta:
I completely agree. Everyone seems to think they are entitled to updates, entitled to bug free beta rom releases, entitled to devs implementing features they want. And by doing this they're just driving the devs away.

A plan to release something and a promise are two different things. The sales campaign for Xperia Play, or the official Xperia Play homepage contain NO mention of ICS, and they never did. So Sony never sold the phone with the promise of ICS. That people bought it with that notion is their own problem, not Sony's.

Now play some emulated games on your phone's gamepad and chill :) Cheers!
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] CloudShepherd:
I agree. I don't ever remember using ics as a selling point in a campaign
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] ozzmanj1:
CAN A MOD PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD. THERE IS NO POINT TO THIS THREAD OR TO THE BAJILLIONS THAT ARE CLUTTERING THIS COMMUNITY WITH THE SAME COMPLAINTS. WE DONT NEED ANYMORE USELESS THREADS ABOUT HOW UNHAPPY EVERYONE IS REGARDING ICS.

PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!!
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] thatsupnow:
Agreed close this thread right away!! Its nothing but a bunch of whining little babies! Wake up people this is the real world, corporations lie deal with it
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] beez1717:
The issue is that Sony Ericsson may have given us a broken beta on purpose so they could say that it was too broken and therefore not give us ICS PERIOD. I'd rather have a fixed up beta so we aren't hanging with one that is crap and not get an official release that's crap. I think Sony is just making a fool of themselves by excluding ics from us and not just alerting us to the gaming issue and making it our faults if we hate the gaming situation. We want you to keep your promise Sony.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] ozzmanj1:
People serious. No one knows what goes on inside corporate HQ. Why people are coming up with all these ideas about why they don't have this or why we were denied that. Who cares. MOVE ON. ENJOY YOUR PHONE AND BE DONE.

GOD I SERIOUSLY DONT ALMOST DO NOT WANT TO COME TO XPERIA PLAY SECTION ANYMORE ALL I HAVE SEEN SINCE OVER A MONTH AGO IS CONSTABT CRYING.

STOP.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] mustbepbs:
Tin foil hat much? Just accept it and move on in your lives. Please.

Please.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] xlance06:
Agreed close ,this tread made me laugh I see to many unreal man here

One day they hate Sony,they never buy Sony product again **** Sony and one day they defend sony:D:D:D,they are the real fan of Sony one day yes one day no
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] KeiranFTW:
Sony didn't deliberately release a broken beta. Betas are meant to be broken.

If they released the beta to dump ICS for us, why does the Arc, Neo, Ray have ICS, even though they have the same CPU?
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] xlance06:
I remember what I read before that ics on Xperia 2011 cnt run smoothly 'coz of ram and processor issue Sony said it must better to stick on gingerbread than ics,but look at their product now 800 MHz 512 ram it has ics out of the box:confused:whyyyyyyy sony????becoz it sony not sony erricsson
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] sashake:
the Play did not get the ICS update, because of game related issues happening with ICS. Broken Games and such I would assume.

It has nothing to do with the processor and the ram.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] CTU_Loscombe:
Sony have said across the Xperia line to stick to Gingerbread. Not just the Play side of things
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] Nabeel_Nabs:
Seriously, stop trying to explain the situation to these ignorant fools, they will not listen and continue to whine like little babies.It's been a month,they still can't accept the facts which sony have clearly laid out and choose to misinterpret whatever sony say.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] narflynn619:
I posted about Tipo and Tipo dual last month. And whining again about Play not getting ICS? Oh god.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] ozzmanj1:
This thread is now closed.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] paxChristos:
I Concur.

Thread Closed.

Pax

FSM Sony Ericsson Xperia Play
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IRJet:
whats up guys? I downloaded the freedom rom for samsung focus.. I installed it but the diagnostic app doesnt work? I tried installing the diagnosticapp.xap from another post but doesnt work either. Any suggestions?
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] nelwyn2:
This is a simple boot animation from the stock Galaxy S II startup for those who would prefer something other than a simple Samsung logo. I just changed it to show III. I have no way to test it since I don't have a custom kernel that supports bootanimation.zip files. The framerate has been increased so it should be liquid smooth as it is on the S II. This is from an animation I did to smooth out the S II startup so it may not look right on the S III because of the different resolution, but hopefully somebody with a custom kernel can test it.

I also added the startup sound from the S II if you would like to change it.
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] abusaaad:
Beautiful :)

Loading and installation
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] zkieal:
Nice~ thank you
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] m7ixalis:
Very good thank¨s
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] DamBadz:
Where I can put da wav file to? Thzx
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] DamBadz:
And the zip file to move it to ? Thx for reply^^
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] nelwyn2:
It goes in /system/media/audio/ui

It may need to be converted to an .ogg file because that is what the stock sound is. Not sure if it will try to play a .wav.

Poweroff.wav as a .wav not an .ogg goes here too by the way if you want a shutdown noise.

I took the Samsung logo sound and made it my shutdown sound if anyone wants it. I ripped it off of the video that came with the phone called Wonders of Nature.

The animation zip file goes in /system/media but again this only works if you have a custom kernel that supports boot animation files.
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] divi:
PowerOn.ogg PowerOff.wav

Thank you for STOCK - original PowerOn.ogg PowerOff.wav. I put thet on my rooted i9300 device, and work perfect.
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] PearLRoX:
Thx ! :good:
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] julgro:
nice thank you
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] Meemo23:
Where do i put the bootanimation zip? Also i have converted and replaced power on. Do i just place the poweroff in the Media/Audio/UI area without converting it or do i convert and put it in?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] navymoss35:
I have the GS3 on straight talk art. I can make and receive calls but I cannot hear nor can the other person hear me. It was working before now its not. Any suggestions?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] navymoss35:
No one has this problem?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moggyx:
I do mate. I am on XSA stock firmware, have not rooted or done anything funny with this phone. I can get it to work by toggling the usage of the noise cancelling mic in the settings of the phone app.

Looks like a dodgy phone.apk implementation. Anyone got a fix to it? I've tried clearing the app data, etc but nothing really seems to fix it 100%.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] thegreenfamily04:
This is relevant....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA&feature=youtu.be&t=49m45s

NSFW due to language and hand gesture.

Troy. :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kiddecks:
i lol'd
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BionicSniper:
Yet people still buy their stuff....

I proudly bought an amd graphics card today instead of nvidia.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] zoppp:
49:50

Sent From My Handheld Portal Device
[T-Mobile LG G2x] buru898:
Wow that's a huge message when he tells you to, directly, something like that.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mustangtim49:
Hey nvidia........F!CK YOU! Best part of the whole video.

mustangtim49@Xda-developers
[T-Mobile LG G2x] noobletsausecakebbq:
They do make awesome video cards though
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BionicSniper:
Nvidia pulls the same stuff with their desktop drivers too...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] DJLamontagneIII:
Lol this is gold
[T-Mobile LG G2x] DJLamontagneIII:
I love how he looks right at the camera
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Core Memory:
A few months ago, I sent Linus Torvalds an email about the problems that developers and end users are having with getting drivers and kernels and updated versions of Android from chip manufacturers, especially NVIDIA, and cell phone manufacturers. I stated that Open Source has become a farce because there's nothing that is able to be done or, apparently, can be done to force chip and hardware/cell phone/tablet/device manufacturers to provide the source code for their drivers, etc., and timely updates for the kernel and the Android OS. I didn't receive a personal reply but it is pleasing to me to see Linus give the finger to NVIDIA in particular but that's not enough, something effective must be done to force the chip and hardware, etc., manufacturers to provide the source code, etc., for their drivers, etc., such as changing the Open Source agreement to require that compliance or they cannot use Linux or any of its derivatives. Google should get on board with this too.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] vaina001:
I definitively agree with you, google should have an agreement where if the OS running on the hardware is open source and part of running that OS is being able to customize it to the users liking then hardware makers should make the drivers for those pieces of hardware open source so that developers can tinker, alter and make better(if possible).
[T-Mobile LG G2x] EricTheLuminant:
I don't mind nvidia making my graphics processors, but I don't think I'll fall for their mobile device schemes again.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] RobBull69:
I love the fact that Linus has strong opinions and you can tell he's just as passionate as he was when he first started putting together the Linux kernel. Nvidia isn't the only thing he's passionate about (google Linus Gnome 3). As someone who runs purely Linux, I hate Nvidia with a passion. I got a desktop from my brother, which had Vista preloaded (hahahaha) and a Nvidia graphics and sound card and it is a royal pain. I had to switch from Fedora to Ubuntu because of the glitchiness and even after the switch, I run into issues and have to revert every other update of Nvidia drivers (or I have to run Unity 2D). As far as mobile goes, it's Snapdragon or Exynos for me. Nvidia should be thrown out of the Open Handset Alliance. As a company, it is as open as Microsoft or Apple. Like Linus, I have strong words for them, but this is a family friendly forum;).
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kesara:
ditto!

.

No not even graphics if you use Linux
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Core Memory:
I don't have any hope that Google will do anything which would diminish the spread of Android. Google is a corporation just like any other which, by law, has only one purpose - generating profit for its owners/shareholders. It is really up to Linus Torvalds to provide the impetus.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] urfate:
I agree, ill pass on the tegra 3 :P
[T-Mobile LG G2x] joeyxl:
I dont get the bashing of nvidia here. Because no ics was released, it's now deemed a ****ty phone
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Core Memory:
The phone isn't ..., NVIDIA is.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] DJLamontagneIII:
Exactly and the point is not just in phones I've also had issues with my Linux box and nvidia graf card
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Core Memory:
NVIDIA graphics cards work well in Hackintoshes/FrankenMacs
[T-Mobile LG G2x] DJLamontagneIII:
Lol I'm simple I use a light LXDE setup
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kesara:
Yep.

First it's much bigger than ICS on G2x.

Second with GB it's a fully functional phone, nothing ****ty with V21y update
[T-Mobile LG G2x] RobBull69:
I had to switch to CM7 because I started getting the screen of death with stock 21y and it started lagging horribly. It was good for 3 weeks then the problems started. I had a lot fewer apps installed than I normally do to lighten the load and it still lagged horribly with and without the supercharger script. Just because the G2x is stock-ish doesn't mean that LG kept it light. Lack of ICS doesn't make the phone garbage, but the phone should be running the software, as it is more than capable of doing so. I have 2 Nvidia devices now, but will never buy another one. My Xoom runs ICS wonderfully with a Tegra 2 and it is a shame that both LG and Nvidia neglected the G2x.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kesara:
That's strange. The first suspicion of course is that something changed after 3 weeks for that to happen. I am using this for a while now with faux 14b2 kenel without any issue.

Personally I don;t believe we need the super charger script unless you have some memory intensive apps 'cause I have never seen mine going out of memory. It can potentially kill your battery by killing apps and then apps restarting themselves (depends on the app).

Agree it is not light it's both LG and T-Mobile bloat. Also agree that ICS would run/feel better.

Unfortunately it's difficult to choose a phone model based on the chipset in US becuase phones are locked to the carriers. I was in fact looking at Atrix but it wouldn't work with T-Mobile. But yet, I would avoid nvidia as a plague too as long as it is for a linux based device.

Also G2x is not just LG and Nvidia, it's T-Mobile too, which complicates it even further.