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[Galaxy S III General] WhiteSnake93:
Ok, I got a serious question to a problem, that is driving me mad! Today in the morning I was on Omega 30 and Siyah 1.7.6 and I spent several hours figuring out the best settings with poweramp combined with the superb audio of this kernel. I am listening to my music on a more than decent pair of headphones and all my files are in flac file format on highest data rates. The audio quality was the main reason for me to ever root my phone and install this kernel.

With 1.7.6 the sound was brilliant and the clarity of the music left me speechless, ever since I installed it with version 1.6.8. From there on I always just flashed the the new kernel and never had problems with the sound quality.

Today I flashed 1.7rc1 and as I put in my headphones I couldn't believe my ears. The sound was flat and without detail and not clear at all. I forgot to make a backup so I just flashed back 1.7.6 because I thought then the problem would be gone, but that isn't the case.

I spent nearly 8 hours now trying to flash and clean and wipe whatever possible to get back my beloved sound, but until now this wasn't crowned with any success. This is nearly driving me mad!

Please does anyone know what the cause of my problem could be?

I never changed the settings in poweramp or stweaks. I checked them a thousand times by now and resetted them and set them back. It can't be helped.
[Galaxy S III General] PIRATA!:
Ok thank you...but the only line I found that it says about compatibility is this one:

I was wondering about this kernel compatibility with STOCK JB roms in particular, not with JB in general...

Is it compatible? Or must my device have NON stock rom?

Other question.....how is it possible to flash CWM after kernel flash and root apply...if we don't have any CWM? Are we talking about flashing twice with Odin? Like flashing a kernel twice?

I'll gonna look to Chainfire's thread, but I was just wondering if it's approximately like this.

Thank you very much.
[Galaxy S III General] saintsinner25:
This is compatible with cm10/aosp roms and stock jellybean based roms both.and yes you need CWM/TWRP to flash this kernal through recovery.

Sent From My GT-i9300 ;)
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
Yes, Samsung jelly bean is stock jelly bean on the S3.

No YOU DO NOT need cwm or twrp to flash this kernel. Pls stop misleading people.

If you download the tar version you can flash it via odin or mobile odin.

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] saintsinner25:
Yes but its general advice to tell people who are new rooting and all to install CWM.

Sent From My GT-i9300 ;)
[Galaxy S III General] habylab:
Any upcoming update for this? Read that support might be dropped in omega thread.
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
But what u said was wrong. You do not need to install cwm to flash any kernel.

You should have said "its best practice to flash a custom recovery so you can have the options of wiping data without losing your internal sd card, etc etc..."

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] WhiteSnake93:
How can I check whether fll tuning or dac oversampling is working? Noticed a big audio quality downfall after flashing rc1. Checking and un checking these doesn't make any difference in audio anymore.
[Galaxy S III General] mitky82:
I have stok rom for first and cm10 for second rom. When i boot in second rom recovery options i install rom, butanything who i try to install after rom don't install . Like gapps, mods and other. They just say installed, but after power on i see they dont. Is this bug for recovery, or i miss something. Ill try several times but they dont install.
[Galaxy S III General] enigma1981:
Are you sure you're installing them to the second ROM? Via 2ndROMutils -> dual boot options?

Swyped from my Galaxy S3
[Galaxy S III General] Kangburra:
Thanks for pointing that out, I have just removed CWM! lol

Also the latest root (Auto-root) does not install CWM so it is an extra step which is not needed. Mobile Odin FTW.
[Galaxy S III General] sachinaik:
I suggest reinstall ur ROM with full wipe and then flash 1.6.7 again.

But I never faced this issue. Whenever I flash 1.7RC1 I get to taste deteriorated audio. When I come back to 1.6.8 I can see the improvement in audio quality evidently.

Currently Gokhan has put all his concentration on dual boot. But in the process somehow audio quality is deteriorated. People love dual boot, what can I say.

PS : I hope what u mean by 1.7.6 is just a typo and its 1.6.7.

BTW can u pls send me 1.6.7 cwm zip ?
[Galaxy S III General] WhiteSnake93:
1.7.6 is not just a typo sadly. I think I somehow kept the good audio till then.

Also tried every version with full wipe and so on :(

I'd also be interested in v1.6.7, so if someone got it...
[Galaxy S III General] Mr.R™:
Has anyone got twrp to work with this? All i get is a bootloop :/
[Galaxy S III General] neofral:
http://db.tt/kpnSJW9N

here you go the 1.6.7 for odin ;)

note: will be available for about 12 hours. i hope you download it by then
[Galaxy S III General] WhiteSnake93:
Thanks! :)
[Galaxy S III General] PIRATA!:
Thank you very much.

What are the main differences between CWM and TWRP??

Which is the best for S3 based on this kernel?

Thanks again.

Wait a minute...so with last version of kernel I could risk in not having good audio quality as with prior kernel versions???

The main reason why I am thinking of using this kernel is to have the best from audio quality!

Please tell me if it's better to think on flashing an old version of this kernel as I have not flash any for now!

In case YES, please tell me if it's better to flash one of the two you guys have nominated (1.7.6 or 1.6.7) or which other version.

I really would like not to wipe or reinstall my rom for a problem like this!!

Please provide me also related links for downloading both as I'd like to keep them on my pc.

Thank you very very much.
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
I find TWRP better to be honest. It's a hell of a lot faster!

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4

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No worries... U really need to try TWRP to see for yourself. It's faster and has a better UI. It makes cwm look archaic in my opinion. Cwm has been fantastic till now and credits to Koush for this, but we need to move with the times.

You won't need to reinstall any rom if u want to change kernel version. Just use mobile odin or Odin. It's all about trying and seeing what suits u best.

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] PIRATA!:
Thank you...but for flashing TWRP should I follow some dedicated thread you guys follow?

About the audio issue...people up here say that changing the kernel didn't fix the issue one they had installed a bad quality kernel... It's like having tried a bad sound quality kernel had messed up things that are only fixable rehashing rom!!

Isn't this way??

Where can I find complete list of last Siyah kernels and related changelogs??

Thank you.
[Galaxy S III General] Mr.R™:
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/
[Galaxy S III General] hankhandsome:
only recently got my S3 and wanted this kernel because of the sound quality and also because of how good it was with my S2

interesting to read the latest version isn't as good so i just googled for Siyah 1.6.7. and easily found it at dev-host

http://d-h.st/Y25
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
TWRP thread ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32964275

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] WhiteSnake93:
It is like you said. Since I've installed the kernel with bad audio I'm not able to restore good audio, not even by full wiping and reflashing Rom and old kernel. Nothing seems to work. Today in the evening I'm going to test 1.6.7 and report back.

It is like it somehow messed up my DAC. Though I don't really think that this is the case, because how should that have happened?
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
By full wiping did you format system, data, cache in cwm >mounts and storage?

Cause if you didn't, the kernel could still be reading some scripts from the older install.
[Galaxy S III General] WhiteSnake93:
I didn't wipe mounts and storage, how do I wipe it?
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
This is not a necessity. It's BS. Factory reset from Recovery is all that's needed. Anything after that is either hardware fault or placebo. Simple as.

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] victorator:
Is anyone experiencing lag when for example downloading a file via wifi and trying to do something else. Sometimes I get 2-3 second delay before the screen responds to my touches.

Dualboot Wanam 4.2.1 / PA 2.53

Siyah 1.7 RC1 no oc no uv
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
I would agree with you normally. But I'm just perplexed that many people are complaining that a reflash doesn't solve their audio issues. A factory reset deletes user data, and afaik, siyah doesn't include any kernel cleaning scripts. So there might be some remnants of old scripts causing issues.

Either that or the latest siyah build damaged the dac, which seems a farther possibility...
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
I dunno... I didn't notice any audio difference in the latest version.

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] WhiteSnake93:
The difference is pretty big so really no placebo
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
You go to cwm and choose mounts and storage. Then choose format system, format data, format cache.

It's the procedure i use when switching to major rom builds as it erases everything on the phone except the bootloader and ext sd.

As kenny said, it is never recommended if you are just updating kernels, but your audio issues even after a full reinstall of rom /kernel is bothersome.

Just like you audio was my main concern with this kernel. I feel that the ics siyah kernels had better audio, but that could be placebo. Nonetheless, I have my ics Nandroid on hand. I am not getting distortion on 1.6.8 however.

So if you want to test coming from a clean system, try the method I mentioned. Just remember, it will wipe everything on your phone.
[Galaxy S III General] WhiteSnake93:
How do I install a new rom after this. My CWM doesn't open my sd card.
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
Are u serious??

How do u install a new rom? :D

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] WhiteSnake93:
When I wipe my internal storage all the Roms that are on my phone will be gone. So I have nothing to flash...
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
U enter download mode and Flash a stock rom that you have downloaded on your pc. You need to do a little reading mate.

Seriously, somebody is gonna brick their phone shortly. Don't let it be you ;)

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] WhiteSnake93:
Sorry :P but I can flash omega too right?
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
Sorry I said it wrong above...

If you do a factory reset, just root and flash CWM again and then omega or rom of ur choice.

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] Obagleyfreer:
I have flashed 1.7rc1 and I can't say I've noticed a difference in audio quality, this thread has got me worried now though.

Is it something that's obvious? Like no bass or distortion?

Cheers guys
[Galaxy S III General] saintsinner25:
Set the negative digital gain to 12.used to work for me.

Sent From My GT-i9300 ;)
[Galaxy S III General] Obagleyfreer:
Why would I do that? I'm just trying to find out if I've been effected by this audio bug.
[Galaxy S III General] Agaranda:
Sound is fine for me. Perhaps because I did full wipe before flash?

S3 DLJ4+Siyah1.7rc1
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
Put your roms in ext sd
[Galaxy S III General] Obagleyfreer:
That's interesting, I also did a FULL wipe before flashing. I totally formatted my phone, not just factory reset.

Look's like we're onto something.......Anyone else do a full wipe before flashing and not have any issues with bad audio on 1.7rc1?

Oh and I'm also running DLJ4 like you.... that could have something to do with it.
[Galaxy S III General] browy:
I didn't do a full wipe and I had a horrible sound quality. As someone already stated, increasing the value for "negative digital gain" in STweaks solved the problem for me.

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
Dunno if it makes any difference but I did a factory reset before and after flashing XXDLJ4 and Siyah v1.7rc1 also. I have no audio issues.

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] Obagleyfreer:
I guess that's the answer then :)

Just have to do a full wipe of your phone before flashing the kernel.

Like yourself after flashing the kernel I also did a factory reset
[Galaxy S III General] WhiteSnake93:
Ok, guys. If you don't know whether you're affected by the audio bug or not, then you're not. The difference is huge. I just managed to get back to good audio a minute ago. Formatting internal sd, external sd and re flashing Rom and kernel with full wipe did the job for me.

Just doing the full wipe didn't though. I guess the problem I was experiencing was slightly diffrent from the other guys' problem...
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
No... U got me wrong. Factory reset after flashing siyah will bring you back to stock kernel. I did factory reset after flashing XXDLJ4 but BEFORE flashing siyah.

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4

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What did u consider a full wipe?

I'm curious.... Did u mean wipe /data from cwm?

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
I suppose this can't be bad....

This was on wifi with location services and Google now ON the whole time.

Screen time is mostly browsing....

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] PIRATA!:
Ok guys..let's say a few things here...

Let's say that in week or so I'll get my brand new S3..

Let's say that will not come in JB but on ICS..

Let's say that I'd like to upgrade to JB..

I should go and check in the "About" menu and check if there'll be some OTA updates from Samsung...right???

Let's say I get the way to upgrade to JB...

Let's say I'd like to use Siyah Kernel..

I should first root my device using Chainfire's CF-Root method reading to it's thread and manage to reset flashing counter as its indicated in that same thread...right???

Let's say I'd like to install a Recovery console before installing the Siyah Kernel...

I should go to the main CWM related thread or to the TWRP thread you linked me up here and follow those instructions to flash a Recovery console to my already rooted device..right???

Let's say I'd like then to flash last Siyah kernel so to have this wonderful kernel working on my rooted and recovery console based new device so to have superb audio support and other great features...

Let's say I'd like to do it using Windows based version of Odin...

I should first wipe everything as factory reset (even if it's a fully new S3, wiping also all caches and data) then go in first page of main Siyah Kernel thread and follow the Odin instructions...right???

Let's say I don't want to do this from Windows based version of Odin but do this from my device...

I should wipe/format device as told just before and then simply use Mobile Odin and nothing else...right???

Let's say I'd like to test if my audio is working correctly...

I should try some music having set some particular audio setting...right??? In this case provide me the settings!

Let's say I'd like to test also the AC!D Audio Technology mod that I'd known to be very good...

I should try it before kernel flash because of some incompatibilities/useless resulting with this kernel...right???

Well...hope too have a lot off replies :)

Thank you all very much.
[Galaxy S III General] WhiteSnake93:
Data/factory reset, cache, dalvik cache
[Galaxy S III General] rab1412000:
Glad you sorted it out.
[Galaxy S III General] gnan10:
Actually stock screen sharpness is gud...

But it got ruined by siyah's sharpness tweaks...and one more thing i can identify is brightness has been decreased compared to stock....in all other aspects this kernel is awsome but regarding display it lacks more functiionalities...and has decreased display quality..... :)

Hope gokhanmoral will see on this issue
[Galaxy S III General] KingpinZero:
Gokhan ive found the issue with performance drop observed by me and other users when overclocking above 1,5ghz

Using Perfmon all cores stays active in a certain period of time, then they drop to 800mhz for 2 seconds, then back up to 1,7ghz.

Ive tested this extensively with no undervolt and with 1,5/1,6/1,7.

This hampers the perfomance quite alot.

Does someone have an idea on why this happens, its a huge problem for me.

Using other tools such nstools or setcpu doesnt help at all, it makes things worse. Cores will disable themselves and stay disabled instead of being all of them enabled even if you set max cpu lock to 4 or 0.

Something is not right. On ics it never happened and i regret updating now.

Inviato dal mio GT-I9300 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] xanthrax:
In case you didn't noticed ... gokhah kernel already includes an application which help us to make changes on it (kernel) so , my eternal question is ... why in the world did you use another one ? First of all stweaks is the best one and second ... is incompatible with any kind of other tweaking app ... that's the reason for all your issues !

If love so much setcpu, nstools or whatever you want , just flash another kernel
[Galaxy S III General] SignalX:
hey guys

is there a Siyah "recovery" image file available? i mean only Siyah's recovery menu, not whole kernel file!

i installed CodecROM + Touch Recovery v6 in its Aroma list

and now i cant have Siyah recovery anymore! even after i install the kernel, through both CWM or Odin, no chance

i can install and access to CWM v5 but seems there's no way for having Siyah recovery?

this is the first time this happened
[Galaxy S III General] PIRATA!:
I have read that Stweaks is inside kernel package...but that a lot of people here uses ExTweak....and still don't understand why...

Can someone please explain me this???

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...I'm sorry..but does Siyah have a personal recovery?

I though that the kernel is a thing installed in a dedicated partition..and that the recovery is another thing installed in a separate partition as in S3 they are split (I think something like 8mb each partition)..and they people could install preferred recovery between CWM and TWRP.

Please explain me this. Thank you.
[Galaxy S III General] KingpinZero:
I understand, but what im trying to say is that the problems i listed are present with stweaks as well.

Also other users reported those errors as well so im not the only one.

Cpu keeps randomly dropping clocks causing lag and stuttering in every app i tried which is problematic.

I didnt found any other kernel with oc support tho, syiah on ics was a blast.

I cant understand why its happening. Only thing ive got left is to do a megawipe and reinstall everything from scratch.

Inviato dal mio GT-I9300 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] xanthrax:
You must understand that when gokhan tested his kernel he used stweaks so all his test results are related to this app .

If you want to get the same results then you must us the same language ... stweaks.

Personally I do not make to many changes on settings, 90% are default and never had problems.
[Galaxy S III General] enigma1981:
I've disabled stweaks in app settings as a lot of people have noticed that setting the cpu speed with stweaks causes lag when the cpu revs to full speed whereas while using set cpu, this problem doesn't exist (same governor/scheduler/cpu speed)

I only use stweaks for booting to the siyah recovery dual boot options :)

On a different note, I can't see why more kernel devs don't incorporate that feature - it's f***ing brilliant!!

I've tested nearly every single ROM on XDA over the last few weeks and it hasn't affected my daily driver :)

@Gokhan : Would there ever be an option to install a ROM to an external SD card? I've only got ~2GB internal storage free at any one time and loosing 1.5GB to ROM2 is a big chunk - if I could install a 2nd ROM onto a microSD card, this would be less of an issue

Naturally it would need to boot into some sort of shell mode to enable the ext sd card, then booting from the card itself would be pretty slow depending on card speed so I understand it's probably not an outstanding idea... but I thought I'd mention it anyway :)
[Galaxy S III General] PIRATA!:
From main kernel development thread:

Anyone have this issue???
[Galaxy S III General] SignalX:
yeah, a personal recovery with dual-boot options

and about the partitions, you're right mate

what can i do now?

Phone's kernel is Siyah 1.7rc1 now, but recovery is not siyah's recovery

thanks for reply
[Galaxy S III General] PIRATA!:
From main kernel development thread:

I'm sorry...doesn't this kernel give the init.d folder support by it self?

Why do root have to create it?

Isn't already added by flashing the kernel?

And what about this "mod"??

[Mod] init.d I9300 Installer

It gives the init.d support but it uses a strange way for installing the folder...

Maybe someone can please take a look at it and tell something more.

Thank you all.
[Galaxy S III General] enigma1981:
You can't get to siyah recovery the same way you'd get to CWM/TWRP recovery... you can

ONLY

access siyah recovery via STweaks - dualboot tab - Reboot into 2ndROM Utils
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
Everything is good here up to step 8 above. Then...

8. No need to factory reset before flashing siyah, you will lose root and recovery and will have to do it all over again. Factory reset is done after flashing the rom. Then u root, flash recovery, siyah.

9.

you need to root first with pc odin before u can use Mobile Odin.

So... Root with pc odin, wipe counter etc etc and then u can use Mobile Odin to flash from there on out.

10. Start with a flat setting and change in increments. Or use "presets". I find "pleasant for ears" preset the best.

Note.. High volume output and speaker tuning can produce distortion. If u get distortion Negative digital gain can counteract this to some extent.

11. Yes

Mdnie screen toggle is in stweaks. It's on by default. Turn it off in stweaks and reboot and u have stock sharpness.

A little reading would have told u this. :banghead:

Sent from my I9300 on XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] PIRATA!:
..and.....

As I'd like not to overclock or make any big hardware sucking managing on gpu clock or volting hack but just manage in systems things as governors or things related to Voodoo sound....will I suffer that lag you say??

Is it a way to avoid that?

Can in my case of use use both Stweak or ExTwesk or is one of these two better then the other one for wage I'm searching??

Thank you.
[Galaxy S III General] enigma1981:
using two apps that does the same thing can cause problems as they can often conflict with eachother - it's a bit like using two AV apps on your PC - it's not really a good idea
[Galaxy S III General] PIRATA!:
I can understand it....

So which one is the best to use as I'd like not to have lag and have every options available?

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Wonderful reply. No words. :)

Just a few other things about it.

8. In a few pages behind I have read that to avoid those strange sound issues with last kernel it was needed to do some wipe before installation of kernel... Can you tell me what kind of wipe are we talking about?

9. If I get root using CF-Root using Odin from Windows and then install Mobil Odin...world I be able to install Siyah Kernel from Mobil Odin??

11. ..so the two sound enhancements are incompatible with each other..right??

Thanks again.
[Galaxy S III General] xanthrax:
Is what i was trying to say :cool: but you found a better way. I hope it's clear for many users now :thumbup:
[Galaxy S III General] PIRATA!:
Ok..so without using any cpu or gpu overclock or any voting stuff...is Stweak working good with no lag?

If I device not to use any dual boot ...is it better to use them ExTweak???