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[Galaxy S III Accessories] AnaMayShun:
I was able to order 1 QI receiver from yijieneng.com for $20 and shipping was $7.25.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] torkiaz:
Why won't they respond!! I want 5 of 'em!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Jeurum_92:
You got a link? Can't find it, you can PM if you want.

Send from my GT-I9300 with Tapatalk
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ZINCOGNITO:
What do you guys think of this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKdNCiShlY0&feature=BFa&list=HL1350026812
[Galaxy S III Accessories] AnaMayShun:
Try this email.

yijieneng88@163.com

I paid with paypal.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] axel06:
Qi Receiver equipped back door

check XDA forum post #18 (page 2) under new " Qi Wireless accessories "
[Galaxy S III Accessories] android94301:
Super Simple 5 minutes Wireless Charging Mod for Samsung SG3, Now New and Improved!

I've just posted a new and improved Wireless charging mod, which is now NFC friendly.

Super Simple 5 minutes Wireless Charging Mod for Samsung SG3

Easy step-by-step instructions, with pictures.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] torkiaz:
Thanks! They still have yet to respond :confused:

Anybody have an idea of how much 5 would cost plus shipping to Florida?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
thats the same for me, many seller in china don't accept paypal, wouldn't it be good if all the sellers in taobao.com accept paypal.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] lmclaurin:
I was able to get 5 from China, but now they all sold in 1 day! I kept 1 for myself. I'm thinking I might just go ahead and bite the bullet and put in an order for 200 of them, lower the price (mine all sold for about 45 bucks and I think that's too high).

Edit: Forget what I said. Some guy starts a fight on Ebay about Powermat and whether or not it works, and I cussed him out. I clearly don't have it in my blood for this long-term be nice to a-holes crap on Ebay.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
Note that even if you could get them, that Chinese adapter doesn't mount centered in the battery door, it's closer to the bottom of the phone.

That's fine if all you are going to do is use it to charge, at home, then who cares (may as well go a Qi route if that's all you care about).

But keep in mind, if you have a car with a factory (or aftermarket) Bluetooth deck, you'll want your adapter centered in the battery door, so you can mount it to a touchstone in a landscape orientation without it falling off.

Then you can just mount a touchstone in the car, no car dock required, no usb required, no aux cable required. Put an NFC tag on the touchstone and have it fire up Bluetooth and connect automatically.

The Chinese adapter somewhat takes this option away, not being centered... unless your dashboard has a tall vertical open area. :p
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
I can't see how this isn't centered, may be you should check your source.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
That's not the chinese touchstone adapter.

If that's the chinese Qi solution (the one where I said "might as well go with a Qi solution, if all you are doing is charging"?), that would explain why there are no magnets. And that being the case - the whole concept of being magnetically centered - is null and void, you don't have that advantage or option with any Qi solution. Not sure why you responded to a Touchstone comment specifically on magnetism and how the phone balances with respect to it.

But you illustrate exactly my point - if it's at all something you might be interested in (most cars these days come with bluetooth integration stock), don't back yourself into a corner. Being able to stick your phone to the dash magnetically is a cool in-car solution... much less charging while it's stuck there.

This is the Chinese touchstone adapter being sold on Ebay:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
sorry my mistake, the qi is also made by a chinese company, thats probably what made me misunderstood.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] AnaMayShun:
They're on their weekend. And I was told they don't work weekends.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] nerys71:
I noticed the M580 I got for my sister has those same 2 little "ports" that the S3 has for wireless charging. anyone know where I can find wireless charging units for the M580 ?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircodyatl:
Mod edit:

I will follow the rules and not duplicate posts anymore.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] axel06:
Samsung is member of both...

"...However, the lines between the two rival groups (A4WP - i.e. Powermat) are not so clearly drawn. Samsung has also signed-up to the Wireless Power Consortium " Qi " (Nokia, LG, Sony,Energizer, etc.) and could well be hedging its bets before fully committing to one particular technological path..."
[Galaxy S III Accessories] eatonjb:
lots of things it could be, could be a GPS antenna connections, regular antenna connections, charging, or even some programming..

i would say research on the M580 forums.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] garyd9:
Please don't post duplicates in multiple threads. Not only is it spammy, it's also against the rules:

Take care

Gary
[Galaxy S III Accessories] queenkong:
Hey guys!

I understand that the initial mod prototypes states that this induction method do not work for phones in thick cases such as Otterbox defender or Seidio Obex, but has the more recent mods improved such that it does?

Also, I''v read that some says OEM works for Powermat mats and some say it only works for Palm touchstone... I am confused whether so it can or can't mix and match charging mats?

Thanks loads!! This is so interesting!!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
Hey....not too long before samsung has theirs ready....

1. Palm parts installed on S3 only work with old TouchStone, Not Qi or PowerMat

2. PowerMat will not be a Qi standard, They will be The Standard That Samsung's Wireless group decides to name it. Tho Samsung will have a couple type doors available, Because of he Verizon's phones.

3.If you want to use a Powermat now, you can get a kit on amazon for under 10 or less...got a few myself for 3 each.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
Apparently I literally can't say this enough:

Don't worry about what might or might not be "a standard" 2 years down the road, and how long it'll take that standard to become adopted in any recognizable capacity once it is. By then you'll have a new phone, and it'll be years beyond before its even close to as ubiquitous as usb chargers, which you are only now seeing in rental cars and only the minority of hotels.

...And why else would you care about something being "a standard"?

Outside of being able to charge when out and about or traveling, what matters is that you can charge at work, at home, in your car - things and places you own or occupy.

And for that, you can't beat touchstone parts for cost, or convenience.

And none of these "standards" lets you magically magnetically dock your phone to your car dashboard for music streaming and navigation - while charging - while driving.

Why are "standards" even being mentioned in this thread? Honestly, companies are just starting to claim "standard!", it'll be years before any gain momentum, and things shake out and we learn which standard sticks or not anyway.

Those old enough to remember the 80s remember the competing "standards" of VHS vs Betamax? Or 2000s HD DVD vs Blu Ray?

Don't worry about "standards" as they are introduced... worry about what's best for you and your wallet and talent level. They'll all charge your phone equally, induction doesn't change.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
If Your Facts are Opinions and not Knownledge Facts, Move on

Samsung is only a member at the Qi standard Group because that's the first one the joined before Teaming up with Qualcomm to Start Their OWN Group....

Kills me how these people just don't understand how this business works but yet know all the answers when they have not done one page of researching.

This Technology is over 100 years old and if you really think that a MultiBillion Dollar Companies are gonna WING it, Poor poor you.....

1. Beta started in 1975, a year before VHS.....was over mid 80's.......

DVD won over my Laser Disc........

2. BluRay only won because a huge company used BR as their Standard choice to put their Media on, Disney.......

3.Standards are prob not important to you as it seems you do not have much knowledge of this subject. So please read elsewhere because the Standard is VERY Important.

Like GM, General Motors will have all vehicles with the DuracellPowermat's Standard and many others. Go to PM's site, read!

4.I already have a full induction in my home, under my Granite counter tops, in tables, employees work van's, Bosch Drills charge on the shelf while they drive to the job. etc etc etc...

SO it is important.....So unless you have comments to help others or facts, by just researching, then leave this room for FACTS please...

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(You): And none of these "standards" lets you magically magnetically dock your phone to your car dashboard for music streaming and navigation - while charging - while driving.

You do know that Chrysler has already started installing wireless charging in the Dodges and yes it holds, charges, and connects to Uconnect/myGig Infotainment system with handsfree Text, Phone, Music Streaming and much more.....

GM has given PowerMat a few Millions to get theirs ready for their Autos...

Samsung has already got the ability to have your phone's screen Mirror on your Auto Infotainment system to Do all Phone actions handsfree, Nav, Text etc, The App is Called DriveLink and the Tech is called MirrorLink,

Maybe why Samsung changed the STANDARD 5 pin micro usb to 11 pin Micro USB??????? Not much other reasons for it....5 pin was very able to do all the MHL does and power the unit.....
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
This is the part that I keep hearing you mention, no other standard apart from touchstone has it, for the palm it's a standard feature, but now we are talking about the S3, this isn't a OEM, it's just a mod not standard on the S3, so the magnet feature is just a add-on or just a mod, so why can't it be added on the QI or other standard, it's just placing extra magnet to either end for docking, and as for other features, it's just NFC enabled.

if people want it, it's easily done, it's just people can't be bothered, it may be a important feature for you, to other, it really isn't that important.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] queenkong:
THank you so much for taking the time to answer my queries!

2) Qi or Powermat type has a "further" range den? For use with thicker casings like the otterbox defender or seidio obex and lifeproof thats coming out soon!

3) What do u mean a kit? At such low price? I can't find any powermat kit for galaxy s3! :(
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
They will have with all Samsung future/present acc...

Below is Amazon items at $.01 for a powermat door to take apart etc and kit is a door/case and the mat....

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[Galaxy S III Accessories] axel06:
Can you ever post something short, like the website and that's it? Gheez...
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
that's like trying to tell birds to fly north in winter to nest in canada...........

he's painfully incoherent and prone to tangents and still lack the ability to bring conclusive information. I've only seen press release stuff from his wall of text....

And ofcourse, the constant declaration of the new and unnamed standard.

I've come to just simply ignoring all his posts at this point.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
there is no need for that, and you can just post the link to the info.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
again... another reason why you want to just skip his post right to the next one that is not by him....

There's so many ways to say how wrong he is yet you just can't bring yourself to do it because you're too busy facepalming.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] axel06:
Gheez...

He might be mentally challenged or incarcerated and thus too much time on his hand. He just does not get it...
[Galaxy S III Accessories] queenkong:
Thank you! I get what u mean! But the blackberry door receiver works if I take apart and mod if on my S3 as well? As long as I get the pins correct that is haha.

Qi or Powermat has stronger reach in your opinions? :)

* Ignore the rest who flames u for being helpful!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
All these words, quoting me - and you didn't counter a single point that I made.

Qi standard is a mat with several coils, and likewise the devices, whose benefit its that you can "drop it anywhere" on a mat. It doesn't require magnets to align a single coil to a single coil. Downside is - like the Verizon door - it's thicker than a single coil. Cases don't fit on Verizon door phones.

Could you add magnets? Sure, why not...

(Well... That's a definite maybe - the big "if" being if you can integrate magnets flush into that mat without disturbing or damaging the array of coils)

...now you are paying even more, and needing to do even more custom modification, in unexplored territory, than if you just started with the clearance-priced Palm parts and a known method.

For what benefit?

The benefit of something being a "standard" is when it becomes ubiquitous. None of these are. So why mention it as a benefit? Any of these could die off like Betamax did, like HD DVD did. All of them could. It's not an advantage yet, and by the time any of these become truly ubiquitous you'll have had four newer smartphones - so it's meaningless if any of these are "a standard", in terms of choosing what to use to modify your galaxy s3 in 2012.

That IS a fact.

Pick what works best TODAY.

Calling something a "standard" doesn't make it work better.

Modifying it so it can do something the non-standard one can do is an admission the non-standard one had an advantage in fact.

These are simple, practical points. You haven't countered one.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] herbivoor:
Been watching this thread the entire time, but I'm still left with some questions.

-Has anyone bought the 28$ eBay cover? What are your findings?

-So, this will work with a Nokia micro USB cable, has anyone tried a Blackberry charger?

Ordered my touchstone and backcover from eBay and I would like to know if I need to buy an extra adapter or cable.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] nerys71:
yes I bought it. I also bought a touchstone and touchstone oem charger cable and converter.

it works fine. but it won't work with anything but the thinnest of cases. ANY thickness at all (bamboo impact even thicker tpu) and it simply won't work which renders it useless to me sadly. man I was hoping it would work through cases.

my only chance would be to uses a NON kickstand case and to build the wireless receiver into the outer-skin of the case itself and run wires inside to the appropriate contact points. but that eliminates so many cases from contention and or requires tearing apart cases (hybrids) that I might prove unable to put back together again satisfactorily.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] herbivoor:
Does it add more bulk than the regular back cover? I saw some pictures and the back covers were a bit open or had a 'bubble' on the back.

Also, the one I bought is some kind of 'improved' version with shorter pins. Curious to test it!

Yeah, too bad you can't use a case with it. I've got a Barely There but I guess that won't be working either.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] nerys71:
a barely their just might work (that is thinner than a TPU. I have a few more "ridgid" non TPU thin cases since I got the wireless back. I will try to remember to test them this weekend.

it does make the back "bulge" a little and the one edge "lifts up" a tiny bit but not insanely so.

naked it might not be ideal for all but with a thin case you will never know. I will also try to remember to get pictures of that online as well.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] herbivoor:
Thanks in advance!

I hope it does work. Otherwise I *might* try to rig the receiver in my barely there with double sided tape and use it without the backcover. Seems to hold the device as well as without the backcover. But on the otherhand, dust will be an issue, I guess.

Well, we'll see!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] smar:
Instead of buying the eBay cover, I've gone the DIY route with the original cover, as shown in the Verizon thread (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1877191). I have now done this for all three S3's in the family, and all work well.

To answer your specific questions:

i. The original cover closes fine. No gaps or lift ups on any of our phones. There IS a very slight bulge in the middle of the cover. Not really noticeable unless you look carefully.

ii. My daughter has hers in the original Samsung leather case. This has a plastic inner part, covered by leather, all on top of the original back cover. The wireless charging WORKS fine through these layers. However, the magnetic grip does not grab the phone, so you've got to be very careful with the lining up on the touchstone. This can be a bit of a pain. In the end, we ended up adding some thin neodmyium magnet disks in between the original back cover and the outside leather/plastic case. This sorted out the magnetic grip onto the touchstone, and so now all works well.

iii. The touchstone is finicky with regards to the chargers it works with. I've tried a number of different ones, of varying amps, but some work and others don't. Samsung original ones seem to work fine.

iv. The issue with the microusb cable is that the most standard cables seem to have a thick or wide fitting near the microusb end. This fitting is then too big to go into the touchstone's opening for the microusb. With one cable that wouldn't fit, I ended up shaving some of the plastic off from the end using a craft knife. The cable now goes into the touchstone fine (and works!).

I hope the above helps.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] herbivoor:
Yes, thank you very much for the extensive reply, alsmost have got all the answers I was looking for!

Can't wait to have it!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] peetee:
Having read this tread with interest, I decided to try the Palm mod but with my Otterbox case.

Instead of putting the palm coil in the phone case, I attached to the outer plastic part of the Otterbox. My reasoning being that the rubber would 'give' a little to minimize bulging.

I did however need to drill a hole in the stock back cover of the phone. Not an issue as I had a spare.

It actually works. The magnets need to be a little stronger, no way would it hold in a car for instance, and it tends to vibrate off the touchstone when a text arrives !, but all in all a worthwhile mod.

I might try some 10mm x 3mm magnets to see if they improves things. What concerns me is, will larger magnets affect the NFC ? I fancy using tags to change the settings when the phone is on the Touchstone.

I am debating trying a Powermat setup next, but the Iphone 3g case doesnt look to easy to dismantle and end up with working components... they are certainly cheap enough if they can be dismantled though.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
NFC should work fine although it depends on how it is modded. There's a video review here somewhere of a member who did the mod and also shows that it works with NFC. Although I have never seen anyone able to use NFC while their phone is wirelessly charging (the receiver pads for all wireless chargers go over the battery which is where the nfc antenna is at.

The general rule is that if the receiver is passive and not doing anything, it will not disrupt NFC since it's literally not doing anything.

You can also try the Qi set up which actually has a receiver coil that goes right underneath the battery, but as far as I know, it might not work with the otterbox since the charging distance is something like 4mm or so (from battery cover to transmitter surface) and i believe the otterbox is much thicker than that.

If you did the same thing you did with the touchstone mod but use a qi receiver, it'll also work. I know for a fact that the Qi receiver will not hinder NFC (I have tested it out already)

Essentially, if you did the same thing you did w/ the touchstone mod with either the qi or powermat, they'll both work and they'll both allow you to use NFC so either way it's safe.

Hopefully that will help.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] peetee:
Thanks for the reply.

I looked at the QI stuff, but the contacts would still have to be extended for the Otterbox, so I figured the Palm way was favorite in case it went wrong. Price came into it for that reason.

I figure a home made cradle will be the way to go.

Any thoughts on the Magnet issue ?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
I don't think the magnet itself will interfere with NFC, but I'm not so sure. I can ask around on IRC today for more information.

I personally trust actual physical contact to hold the phone in place, but that's just my distrust of magnets and cars.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] peetee:
thanks for your help.

Also, if anyone is still thinking of this, I found the power lead to the Touchstone is a little fussy about chargers used.

I bought a Palm USB cable after reading about needing to short some pins together. This didnt work from my usb hub so I tried an Iphone charger. No joy either..

After a bit of a think, I remembered my Asus Tablet has to use its own USB charger and that works fine.

It also works with a HTC charger, but not the cable, its too fat.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
so, based on what the guys told me, they said that as long as you're using neodymium magnets, it should not interfere.

Take the info with a grain of salt. I personally haven't tried it since I have no need to do so, but if it works, then great.

hope that helps
[Galaxy S III Accessories] PatcheZ:
hey, anyone know if the 'fast charge' affects the wireless charging?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] RaymondPJR:
This has been one of the most confusing threads I've ever read. I did figure out that the Palm Pixi route was not for me, and I didn't really like any of the other options, especially the price. After two days of searching I finally found a good candidate and took a bite. Here is a picture of the back cover. It's hard to tell if it's thicker than the original, but my plan is to take out the coil anyway. It's a really bad picture but for under 35 bucks I was willing to take a risk. I'll try to get a picture of the charging pad itself. It's on a slow boat from China, but I'll keep everyone notified.

There were other options but you had to buy more than one. I can see why guys where trying to sell stuff on here, lol!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
looking at the picture.. I have a sneaking suspicion that you might even be able to remove the receiver from that battery backing and place it under your normal cover..

seems like an interesting alternative that would save tons of money for alot of the people who want to save money on new technology.