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[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
I may not be too reliable for that, but I'll think about it. I've never created a youtube video.

In the meantime, I could help explain it this way (this may be better than a video):

DRILL PRESS:

You adjust the table height using the table locking clamp.

You adjust precisely how far down you want the bit to go using the depth stop adjustment (when you pull/turn the feed lever arm(s), the bit comes down into your workpiece, but only as far as you've set the depth stop to allow it to go).

I'm suggesting chucking up a straight cut router bit rather than a drill bit, because we aren't looking to cut a hole, but rather to machine a flat surface into our battery door.

STRAIGHT CUT ROUTER BIT:

Here's what it looks like, and what it would look like cutting through wood, if you were to use it with a router to cut through some wood.

They sell these bits in various cutting widths - I'd get the narrowest you can, if you don't own them already. Harbor Freight is a great place to get cheap tools... even the cheapest bits in the world would be more than good enough cutting soft plastic.

Get a small one. They sell them as small as having just a 1/4" wide cutting surface.

In this case, we're using the drill press, but we are more or less routering into our battery door - just a fraction of a millimeter or so, and using the depth stop on the drill press to precisely router to a specific depth. The depth stop is what makes it possible to always return to a precise depth without blowing through your door.

DOUBLE SIDED TAPE:

Not talking about anything fancy, we want it to hold firm but not be impossible to remove.

I'm using this stuff (which is also awesome stuff to use to make your christmas gift wrapping look professional to impress your relatives - no visible tape on the Xmas gifts is pretty clean):

You just trace the locations you want to cut out using tracing paper (or whatever) on your Pixi or Pre door, then use double-sided tape to stick that inside your GSIII door. Then use the doublesided tape to stick it to a piece of scrap 3/4" thick wood (noting that your camera has a hump around it, so I'd let that hang off the wood - you want the surface you are cutting into to be perfectly flat against the wood).

But first, take a scrap of the same wood, and double-sided tape a piece of scrap plastic to it, like a container lid. Use that to set your depth stop on your drill press, so that when you actually cut your battery door, it goes exactly to the depth you want, and there's no accidents with the real door. ;)

If you don't own a drill press, chances are Dad does, Grandpa does, or one of your friends does.

Hope that helps.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
No video - but I took some pictures as I did it (click each thumbnail for the full size picture):

I cut out a scrap of plastic and used the doublesided tape to bond it to a block of scrap wood - in this case a whipped topping lid:

I then adjusted the drill press table, and used the piece of scrap plastic to set my depth stop, using the scrap plastic to make test cuts:

(that's not a drill bit, remember, it's a router bit)

Once I was happy with how I had the drill press adjusted, I used the double-sided tape to attach my actual battery door to the wood block (note - if you are using a stock door, hang the camera opening off the wood - you want the back of the door to be perfectly flat against the wood or you'll risk cutting through it).

Note I used tracing paper to trace the cutouts from the pixi door, and used double-sided tape to stick it inside my door:

Then I used the router bit in the drill press to cut out where I had marked on the template:

With the extra tape and paper off, you can see I actually was able to cut quite deep without going through (note I'm not cutting into my stock battery door, I bought an aftermarket one that looked a little thicker):

In fact I probably went too deep - you can see a little bulging where I had cut:

I'll try to correct that a little bit when I actually install the coil - I'll mix up a little epoxy and press it together on a flat surface.

If I did it a second time, I wouldn't go as deep and I wouldn't even have to worry about it. Those metal slugs are actually thinner than I thought:

I used a dab of superglue to hold each in.

There definitely won't be any problem with it sitting flush on the inside:

Hope that helps.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
Not a Different Technology, Different format of Induction. Palm is copper coil and Verizon is a ultra thin magnet on circuit board.....

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It takes a little more work to power a Touchstone Disc charger in a Car....you have to give the disc the power that a wall charger gives. Inverters/etc. TouchStone never made a car anything.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
How many of the TouchStones have you owned and/or installed/Mod? So a Diesel engine isn't a Combustion engine,doesn't fire fuel by a spark? Same Tech. Now a Electric Car does not use a Combustion engine or Fuel. That is a Different Technology. I have worked with Induction for 12 years now. I have Induction in my countertops in my walls and in Furniture and Cook on Induction.Fulton/Ecouple is/has been manufacturing this stuff for me for a while.My have Induction chargers in the shelves of my Employees Trucks/Vans to charge laptops/Batteries for their Dewalt Drills etc.... So this isn't new to me at all. The only hold back for me is when it comes to a very small device that has a custom molded piece that makes no sense for me to pay out a whole lot of money to have custom made for me. Induction is over 100 years old Technology .....There are two primary types of wireless charging: inductive and conductive. Inductive chargers use an electromagnetic field to transfer wireless energy across a gap, and into the device's battery. The aftermarket backs for inductive charging include an induction coil, which is capable of receiving the wireless energy. Conductive charging, on the other hand, works with direct electrical contact between the power-source and the battery.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] thacounty:
I only want to add that a diesel engine does not create fire with a spark.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
And a home charger does not output 5vdc to the charging pad.....all you have to do is go grab a charger's power supply and it will be printed on the black plug saying Input 100-240 VAC.....OutPut 18V....that isn't 5 volt.....the phone requires the 5 volt, But teh Charger pad itself requires the 18volt....that is true of all a/c to d/c home electronics....the charger never outputs the volts that the item needs.............You will fry/destroy anything you think that you can just do it your way........IF it was that simple then electronics would just have one plug that had prongs on one side and a cigarette lighter plug on the other side......

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http://www.instructables.com/id/Powermat-your-car/
[Galaxy S III Accessories] garyd9:
umm.. no. A diesel engine compresses the fuel/air mixture to cause it to ignite. If the engine is too cold (and the air is too cold) then it takes more compression... that's why many diesel engines need heaters in the winter. On the other hand, a gasoline engine will "knock" if the gas ignites before a spark plug fires. Higher octane gas can handle higher compression rates before that happens.

The person you are replying to was speaking from an electrical engineering point of view and was correct in what he was saying. While I won't go so far as to say they have rolled their own coils (because I don't know if they have or not), they obviously have a working knowledge on the theory of how it's done. (Actually, when I first read that post, I was trying to decide if the poster is an electrical engineer or a ham radio operator.)

Seriously - induction is a concept that can be implemented many different ways. Mixing the wrong parts results in... nothing. It's a scientific fact and no amount of disputing it will change that. It's like trying to put a square peg in a round hole.

Take care

Gary
[Galaxy S III Accessories] dannytill:
Have you ever actually looked at a smartphone charger? Nearly every single one outputs 5V and usually somewhere between .5 to 1 A.

EDIT:

I see where you are getting this 18V thing. I followed the link in your post and you did a mod with the powermat charger which I'm assuming needs 18V however the touchstone, which the majority of this thread is about, uses a pretty standard 5V 1A phone charger, hence no need for an inverter.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Fallon:
The OEM Palm branded charger that came with my TouchStone is 5v 1A... The same as almost every other USB power supply around. Voltage is exactly the same & amperage is within the normal 0.5A to 1A range. The data pins appear to be shorted, but that is relatively common as well.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] LoganMcClay:
Some photos of my mod

Hi,

Here's some photos of my mod. Took Samsung's original flip cover, carved the inside first with a wood scisor, then with sandpaper and finished by polishing with .00 sandpaper where the coil would be sticked for it to adhere better.

To peel easily the Palm Pixi's part, I heated the back's outside with a hair dryer, making the glue soft. That way it all came with the black sticker and I didn't used any double-sided tape.

As you can see, I used some copper tape, bought 3M 1181 copper tape that has special glue which permit electricity to run through.

Even if it doesn't look that pretty, it works flawlessly without any solder, and you can see ~almost~ no bulge (yes almost, because there's like a 1/5 mm between the back and the phone on photo 2-3, due to the pressure when I carved, I bended the cover... a little pressure get rid of that so maybe i'll try to straighten it again, even if it's not an issue).

Finally, I made a little modification to the craddle and now it stands on my desk :D
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Kev13Dd:
Just did this mod on my S3, works great and charges surprisingly fast

The bulge is just barely visible on the back, and requires the perfect light at the perfect angle to see. However, you can feel it when you hold it in your hand. The way your fingers wrap around the back just don't feel the same

Not a biggie, and the convenience will probably far outweigh it. Just something to keep in mind!

K
[Galaxy S III Accessories] friscosf:
For those of you that have done this mod, will this work with a ringke slim lite case? Or a hard case similar? Did you have to put stronger magnets?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] antzvill:
if you tell me how u got the tasker profile setup i can make it an app for everyone and maybe even an app where they can program the bluetooth name
[Galaxy S III Accessories] antzvill:
Stock Sprint Galaxy S3 Original Back Door with Verizon Inductive and NFC

You read the title right watch the video and pm me if you would like me to do a walk through. No soldering or warranty voids here gentlemen.http://youtu.be/SGc_FARj-wI
[Galaxy S III Accessories] garyd9:
Really? So you posted something to beg for people to press "like" on a video instead of just freely sharing information when others have already done so? (and then you've even posted this on multiple threads!)

What a joke...
[Galaxy S III Accessories] garyd9:
From the XDA rules: "5. Post a message only once."

I guess you missed that. I'd guess this one probably applies as well:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] antzvill:
you're right i guess i should edit it to say pm me instead of like the video
[Galaxy S III Accessories] garyd9:
Good point...

I just hate to see the forums here turn into craploads of ads for things. We should be discussing products, and even sharing how to DIY. Too many other forums have degenerated into "for sale" lists (and half of those are scams.)

I've already seen XDA lose it's "developer" focus over the years, and I really hate watching it get even worse.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] getsaf:
So, I've read through this whole thread and searched the forums but I haven't found a solid answer.

All screen shots if wireless charging I've seen have been from Touchwiz roms. Will this work ok for other roms? Anyone tried this with CM10?

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] eatonjb:
yes, it charges fine, but my CM10 rom never showed anything more then its charging does not say wireless or anything/
[Galaxy S III Accessories] antzvill:
NFC and Wireless charging with Sprint S3 and Verizon Qi Charging Guts

Video is up of the break down walk through check it out http://youtu.be/nTLw9qAniL0
[Galaxy S III Accessories] MarsVoltron:
What do you use to measure your mah?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
I'm interested in this too - but the results make sense.

A wired connection will always be more efficient than a wireless one - so if you plug a 1A charger into a phone, it'll charge at a rate of up to 1A.

but if you plug that same charger into a touchstone, just from the wireless efficiency loss alone, it'll be less.

Half? Maybe, would make sense.

But I posted a link earlier to a Galaxy Nexus forum thread, where someone made a kernel available with a tweak to allow faster wireless charging. I was curious if the same tweak was available on the GS3, but no responses.

I'd like to measure current draw if there's an app available, if nothing else but to compare chargers used with the Touchstone.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Jeri1218:
New Qi receiver gizmo

This Qi receiver appears to be a new gizmo and offered on ebay : item no. 130776213029 - looks decent, but looking for opinions
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
I've arranged to see the company in a few days to make a small bulk buy for the exact product, including the base.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] imstill@g:
ME TOOOO!!!!

I am interested in purchasing 2 if you make the buy and feel they do serve our purpose, Thanks
[Galaxy S III Accessories] xceebeex:
I wonder why they only had two available though? I would definitely be interested in this.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
I think they are testing the market on the price with just a few, if he made a bulk buy, he has a huge profit on top, and if USD 25 goes quickly, may be a price increase for an extra few $$$ on his next ebay listing, he probably know members in this forum will want them, he could also be a member here. The good thing is this pad requires no modification, and installs in seconds, as for my korea S3, I will have to slighty alter it's thickness.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
Just remember Qi is a new standard that the Palm charger parts don't conform to.

I believe the Verizon door conforms to it however.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ayassine:
=)

i hope it would charge it at the same rate
[Galaxy S III Accessories] goodelyfe:
tasker is easy....shouldnt need an app for that.

just base it on location/event/whatever and create new task to turn on WiFi AP....simple
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
Here you go, qi wireless charging without mod, using your existing backcover.

[YOUTUBE]oTSErVDxDFk[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy S III Accessories] eatonjb:
2 questions.

1. Where do I get that!

2. Why do they have to cover the battery 100%.. why cant they go over the SIM or the bottom half? or are there magnets that could kill the sim or MicroSD card?

whever you cover the battery the NFC is at risk of loss of connectivity.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
I'm contacting the seller to see if I can post his details here, as for your other questions, you can try to ask the other companies that makes them, all of them also covers the battery.

edit: NFC also works.

you can contact them from here

sales@mobnnovate.com
[Galaxy S III Accessories] axel06:
Mobnnovate

You (Mobnnovate - Singapore) advertise your products here ?

US$70 (not incl. S/H to USA) is price on your Facebook page! There are 2 sellers here in the USA that offer the identical Qi compatible kit for US$55 incl. S/H. As a matter of fact, I bought just the Qi Receiver insert...Cheaper is to combine by buying the Energizer QI chargers on ebay/ Amazon and the Qi receiver you are showing in your video is offered for $25 by itself...

But do not buy Powermate charger/ transmitter: They are NOT Qi compatible.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
I have nothing to do with mobnovate, i'm from hong kong.

I found this on youtube, it's the same item i'm getting, the seller also has the contact on youtube.

I've contact the company in china, ordered 3 kit, 10 receivers, some flexible coil and a multi battery charger, meeting them in the next few days.

was it you who got them from ebay for USD 25, did you buy both of them.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] imstill@g:
Where would one find these two dealers in the USA?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] jproy12:
I'd also like to know!

JP
[Galaxy S III Accessories] qben88:
so after a little bit of research i found a vendor for it http://www.dhgate.com/new-qi-wirele...rging/p-ff80808139d2f0020139d385a8480f83.html

alibaba also has a wholesale vendor with a minumum of 200 orders coming out to about $30 a piece or so. im really interested in this. im going to research a little bit more see if i can find any cheaper alternatives or a U.S vendor
[Galaxy S III Accessories] android94301:
Why not just do the five minute wireless charging mod?

Guys, as much as I admire all of your hard work, you can do this mod in five minutes, and with much less hassle.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1877191
[Galaxy S III Accessories] qben88:
does your nfc still work? its a little ghetto looking, how is it holding up? i change batterys daily so i wonder if that would hold together.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] android94301:
NFC works fine. If you want to make it more robust, just use the black tape thing that came with the Palm Pixi case to cover the mod. I used scotch tape because a) I never open my cover, and b) it's super thin.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] qben88:
just read your whole thread. im doing it up. with amazon prime i got the cover and the touchstone for $10 shipped by monday and a micheals down the street. now from what i read inside the cover its actually metal not magnets correct? so would i be able to put stronger magnets in the touchstone to hold it better? i wouldnt want to put stronger magnets in the cover being that i actually use the compass for geocaching.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] android94301:
Yes, just stick the magnets on the Touchstone, that will protect the compass.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] pcorlatan:
I crudely modded my gs3 the other day using parts from a pixi cover and used electric tape to secure everything. I had some tiny flat neodymium magnets laying around so I used those to ensure my phone stays secure, especially since I have a TPU case. It took me a few minutes to realize that on the Palm Pixi cover the top pin is positive and the bottom is negative, which is the same as the gs3 pins, but this is contrary to the Pre cover which is negative on top and positive on bottom. At first I incorrectly assumed that the Pixi cover would be the same as the pre and the charging wasn't working, but when I tried the inverse it worked great. Anyway, it's so nice just placing the phone on the touchstone and I'm glad I have this working until the official Samsung charger comes out, if ever.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] whip_it:
i have a feeling it'll be expensiveeee !
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
A word of advice if anyone who want to perform the mod, if you are starting from scratch, the qi method is the way to go, qi standard is now the standard used by major companies, and many phones in the near future will support the qi standard, nokia for instant lumina 820 and 920 has built-in inductive charging supporting qi, base station using the qi standard will support all future mobile phone that support qi.

The touchstone method is a cheap way to get into inductive charging for those who has a tight budget or has the hardware lying around, but is not a long term solution.

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they usually are.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] stu5797:
The touchstone is definitely a long term solution. I have had it since june.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
are there any major known brand companies which supports that format, as with the qi standard.:fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
I think touchstone is invented by HP, and only used by HP, some day hp will just discontinue the support just like the touchpad.

today anounced, tomorrow discontinue.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] eatonjb:
im getting tired of all these companies that put a video like that up, and say "contact" them. if they don't have a sales channel, just say that. since they are NOT going to sell just 1 to me, whats the point.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
Have you contacted them yet, i'm sure they will sell one.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] eatonjb:
not yet. but all their facebook and other sites all say in lots of 10.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
just contact them, I'm sure even a sale of 1 item is better than none, there are exceptions.

When I contacted the main company for these qi, I didn't expect them to reply for sales, but they agreed to meet me in a few days time.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] eatonjb:
I just emailed them, but this is not Craigs list. I don't want to meet anyone, just want one shipped to my office for a good price.

we will see.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
Good luck.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] jproy12:
I contacted them last night and got a response pretty fast from them, actually exchanged 2 emails from them last night and they never mentioned they wouldn't sell only 1 unit, I got the pricing shipped for one unit to my place in Canada, being the Pad and Receiver.

JP
[Galaxy S III Accessories] xceebeex:
What was the price?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] jproy12:
Price shipped was as stated before in a previous post of 70$ usd, which isn't that bad.

Waiting for about answer to my other email asking more specs on his units.

What he did tell me was the folowing;

JP
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
Base

产品标准 product standard Qi

输入电压 input voltage DC19V

输入电流 input current DC1A

发射功率 transmission power DC5W

工作频率 working frequency 100-200Khz

耗能转化 energy conversion 大于72%＞72%

供电距离 power distance 5mm

充电电流 charging current 500-1000mAh

充电电压 charging voltage DC5V

产品尺寸 product dimension 83*153*10mm

产品重量 weight 250g

充电方式charging method 一对一one-to-one

产 地place of origin 中国china-yjn

上市时间 time to market 已上市Already listed

s# receiver

产品标准 product standard Qi

输入电压 input voltage

输入电流 input current

发射功率 transmission power

工作频率 working frequency 100-200Khz

耗能转化 energy conversion 大于72%＞72%

供电距离 power distance 5mm

充电电流 charging current 500-1000mAh

充电电压 charging voltage DC5V

产品尺寸 product dimension 62*46*1mm

产品重量 weight 10g

充电方式charging method 接收 receiving

产 地place of origin 中国china-yjn

上市时间 time to market 已上市Already listed
[Galaxy S III Accessories] xceebeex:
Ok thanks. That one guy on ebay is going to sell them cheaper than that, and it will be in the US, so I might just wait for his to be available.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
isn't thats for just the receiver pad without the base.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] xceebeex:
He is working on getting the base and doing some testing. If it passes testing, he will sell both the receiver and base for less than $70 shipped.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
is that the seller selling just the pad for USD25.