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[Galaxy S III Accessories] WinDroidGuy:
Those in the USA...go to your local Michaels and get 24FT roll of copper tape for $6...if you mess up, you have a lot more tape to try other things ;P lol

It's in the beading section, also they always have 40% OFF coupons...so it's a steal to go there and buy it :)
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Fallon:
Dumbassery... Left my multimeter on AC... DC yields 5.5-5.6v with both guts and touchstones.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] axel06:
Powermat

I have a brand new powermat 1x plus the wallcharger. If anybody interested in buying, please pm me. Thanks!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] pGuerrerox:
read this entire post,,, and im gonna order the pixi back cover with the touchstone and a Android decal to put in the center of the touchstone xD
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
I'm interested in the answer to this also...

I'm thinking about picking up pixie parts, an aftermarket back cover, and flushing it in as deep as I can. I want to use a powermat, so not concerned about a center location...

I heard that it did interfere with NFC, so I was planning on locating this below the battery so it didn't block the NFC antenna on the battery. However, then I'm over some of the phone's antennas.

Thoughts?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] syer1:
Mine is pretty low and i did use nfc at a

Babies r us and it worked. I believe another member said that he was selling his energizer qi to switch to the pixie/pre mod instead so i would assume that this is not compatible with that charging system. I believe the Verizon door does work with it though.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
I'm interested in using a powermat (or any mat) so that I can just drop this on my nightstand with my eyes half closed as I pass out at night.

It looks like this user was actually using guts that were specifically for the Powermat, however (not Palm parts)...

Is there a mat that works with the Pixi parts?

I'd also prefer to offset the Pixi parts lower in the back cover, to not block the NFC (is this even an issue?), which might cause some risk of imbalance for a touchstone mount (phone would be sitting high on the touchstone if nothing else) if I were going that route.

Is this a concern? A good idea?

Don't worry about it?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] dannytill:
Did you use the stock cover? I didn't think so based off of you pics, but I wanted to confirm.

Also, is that the Pre or the Pixi guts? Looks like the Pre. What did you use to chisel out the back?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] dannytill:
Did you solder? If so how do you solder the tape? And how did you make your tape stick out?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] eatonjb:
am I right to assume that the Palm charging system is NOT Qi?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
Your answer is attached.

(the short answer is no)
[Galaxy S III Accessories] eatonjb:
Yup, still no answer. someone also asking. (and myself earlier.) but thank you for that!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] aweskelo:
I have the OEM wireless charging cover.

Works great.

Problem is, it adds way too much thickness. Now, no case or holster clip on the planet will fit the phone, which basically makes the cover and therefore the feature (wireless charging) unacceptable for me. Bummer.:(
[Galaxy S III Accessories] williamn:
I used Pixi guts on this cover:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silver-Carb...481912?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4abbb06e78

I think the OEM cover is slimmer, plus this silver one has plastic plus that silver fabric so even when I carved too deep, the fabric was still there.

NFC works perfectly fine. Holds well to the touchstone. And to answer the question below this one, the tape is adhesive and still conducts. Just don't layer too much to get thickness, roll it up.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Stephen1125:
Have you tried it with a bumper case? Seems like one should fit since the back is fully open on them.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
FYI... found this interesting tidbit (and a lot of other useful tips) in this thread:

Want your touchstone to charge the phone faster?:

Note this is a kernel being quoted for the Galaxy Nexus...

Does anyone know if this command will work with our stock kernel?

Or, if not, a kernel that will work?

Also some good general assembly tips in that thread. Worth reading if you are in the planning stage.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] atthebeach:
I read somewhere that it might actually be better for the durability of the battery to charge it more slowly... it also said that it's better not to charge all the way to full cell voltage. I wonder if it's possible on this phone to stop charging by software without unplugging the charger, then we can have an app that can charge to, say, 90% to trade a little endurance for durability...
[Galaxy S III Accessories] delliott00:
First this is a great mod and I really appreciate the work you guys have done to make it easy for us....

Quick question: Is there something special about car chargers and the touchstone?

I did the mod using a pixi back, and it works perfectly. I have a couple of HTC cables and generic AC home chargers that work fine. But when I take one of those cables and plug it into my mini car charger socket, it doesn't start charging. I do not get the pop-up nor do I see the charging bolt in the battery icon. Tried several cables and several chargers. I mostly use those small mini cig lighter charger adapters as they don't stick out. I have several different brands -- from cheapo Rosewills to a couple of Belkins. None of them seem to work, despite the fact that the cables work fine plugged into a home charger, and if I plug the micro usb into the phone they charge fine also.....

A few pages back someone mentioned that the touchstone needs a cable with + and - pin jumpered..... is it possible that my car chargers aren't wired properly, despite the fact that the cables work fine indoors? Or could it be a current issue? The car chargers are 1000mA, same as a couple of the home chargers that work.

If anyone has a link to a car charger that definitely works, please LMK.....

Also, works fine with the open-back bumper cases. It will still charge with REarth slim case, but won't stick very well.

FYI you can stick a samsung tectile on the touchstone and set it up to a profile/app. I have mine set up to run my music player and set the volume. With bluetooth audio it picks right up where I last played it and I can control the songs via the head unit, and my text messages are read over BT audio too. All I need now is the touchstone dock and I will have seamless integration. Oh yeah and JB4.1 so I can get GoogleNow running (tempted to hit the leaked version but sounds like the official release is imminent).

Thanks.

-Dave
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
I'd suspect it is the cable. Several people in this thread have noted quirkiness... this cable works, this cable doesn't - I'm sure that's not just "the cable", but rather how the cable, charger, and touchstone work in combination.

Following that logic, I suspect that if you aren't using the official Palm cable, and you have hit on a charger/cable combo that works, it's likely that the factor that makes it work is simply in the charger, rather than the cable... in other words, jumpered connections. It's an electrical circuit - that means:

a) it's the sum total of the parts that make up the circuit (the charger/cable/touchstone, in this case)

b) it doesn't matter where the jumpering occurs, as long as it's in the circuit as expected (whether in charger or cable don't matter once they are plugged together to function as one circuit, together).

Rather than taking a pot shot at whether there's a car charger in existence that has ____ jumpered, why not just use the cable that came with the touchstone? If you bought the touchstone rather than the touchstone/cable/charger combo, just buy the cable on Amazon.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] N23:
Using a .01$/€ cable with the ETA0U80EBE charger (same as shipped with the S3) - no problems. So it's just the charger which matters!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] axel06:
Powermat

I have a brand new powermat 1x plus the corresponding cable/wallcharger. If anybody interested in buying, please pm me. Thanks!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] alitech:
Hey buddy

I am trying to replicate what you have done with your car dock mod thing with the extra magnets. Can you please tell me which magnets you stuck on to the touchstone and then put the fiber sticker on it?

Furthermore, did you change the magnets in the battery back as well? Pixi or Pre guts?

Now from the picture you show here

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gwcxst4xmq1wckm/IMG_20120815_100156.jpg

It seems that when you would put the GS3 on the touchstone in the car, it will not be a flush contact with the touchstone as the extra magnets you have on there are protruding on the touchstone. I wonder how you get it to work as the mod I have done, its usually is a hit and a miss with the touchstone so have to place it on the touchstone 2 or 3 times to get the wireless charging pop up.

Hope this makes sens.

I would like to give it a shot in the car, just need to know if this is doable at all.

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No one has given any insight on the wall charger to use that would be best suited for the touchstone.

Anyone have any information about a charger that would push the current flow up to 1.2 amps from the touchstone so that it would charge at the same speed as the USB one?

Furthermore, any ideas on which charger to use in the car for the touchstone? I need as much power as possible and will wire it internally with the lighter socket for OEM look.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
This very page has the info you are looking for.

For one thing, you can buy the Touchstone, Touchstone cable, and Touchstone charger for a whopping $8 on Amazon. No one has commented on the wall charger being anything special. The Palm one is a 1A charger - if nothing else, worth the $4 premium to have an extra charger over the cost of just buying the Touchstone without the cables and charger, IMO.

My post at the top came from a Galaxy Nexus forum - you'd have to explore that route if you want to charge faster via touchstone.

Personally, I'd leave the charge slow - if this is going to be for a nightstand, overnight charging, that kind of thing. It's better for the battery, your battery will last longer.

You'll have to research that setting [from the Galaxy Nexus] forum on your own, maybe start another thread on it - no one replied in here if our stock kernel supports it, or if any custom kernels support that setting. I haven't even looked myself to see if it exists in the stock ROM - maybe it's already there. Did you look? Do it.

If you find yourself in situations where you NEED a faster charge, you can still plug in a USB cable. I plug my GS3 into my Nexus 7 charger here and there, and it charges FAST.

Bear in mind, one fundamental limitation here is that you are charging wirelessly, via induction, rather than the direct connect of a plug.

For the car charger, you see that's a topic on the four posts just above yours. The charge circuit (whether cable or charger) requires the data pins to be jumpered. Three options here:

1) use the official Touchstone cable (a good reason to buy the $8 bundle rather than the $4 solo touchstone)

2) use a charger that happens to work [with any cable] - although per the comments above, you might be buying and trying a bunch.

3) modify a charger yourself, jumping those pins. Careful so you don't short the wrong pins.

Hope that helps.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] alitech:
Thanks for your comments. Not really worried about the slow charger overnight as thats a non issue, the issue however will be in car where I will need a lot more juice to do the following

1. have the display on all the time for SAT NAV

2. Bluetooth audio to the car audio system

3. Telephone calls when required.

4. No annoying messages saying you are using more power than you are getting via charge (or something like that)

All four are going to run simultaneously.

Now from your comments, I guess the best cable would be the official palm one, no issues Ill get that, however which car charger to buy? Any powerful ones? Will the ones used for charging tablets suffice? Just looking for names of charges and perhaps some information on how much current they throw out. BTW, i am in the UK.

Thanks again
[Galaxy S III Accessories] rjtoudouze:
Has anyone been able to successfully do this mod on a Verizon S3? I am planning to try it with a pixi back, but I would love to know if anyone has done it or not. Thanks.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] WinDroidGuy:
I have this on all 3 that I own :)

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
Has anyone tried this car charger?

There aren't any specs on Amazon for it, but it's inexpensive and states it's specifically for the Touchstone:

http://www.amazon.com/Touchstone-Ca...d=1347569866&sr=1-45&keywords=palm+touchstone

I'd be curious how it works.

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Also - check out this modification to the touchstone base to hide the USB cable:

http://www.instructables.com/id/PALM-Touchstone-Hidden-USB-cable/#step1

This is important to me, as I want to do a clean car install without exposed wires. I'll post pics when complete.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] eatonjb:
umm.. dude.. that charger, is just another USB charger that you can get anyplace slapped with a title. any car charger will do the same as that thing.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] alitech:
Dude that job is anything but clean. It looks terrible on the dash. The one done earlier in this thread in 10 times cleaner despite having some of the wires showing but still coming out of the vents.

The wire still shows anyways and that PVC jobby oh dear.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
I have posted this in page 3 which will help with the mods, check my post 25

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1869372&page=3
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Aegishua:
Mate, stop posting that everywhere because you just post images and no specific details about it which is absolutely USELESS! Seriously, don't just post images of a product unless you can specify some details about it such as how to get it or what the prices will be like. Images like this do absolutely nothing and you're just wasting everyone's time.

Yes, this is a rant because hes posting this sh*t everywhere and I see it and it get my hopes up.

FYI, this is sort of warranted because he posts the image then people ask "where do you get one" or "how much?" and he doesn't reply.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
If you have nothing useful to say stop posting, if you click on the link, there is also a downloadable link for a PDF file with all the info, also this is only a link to the original thread, and hasn't been post before.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Aegishua:
Why don't you just create a thread like a normal person so you can avoid polluting every other related thread that has 'wireless charging' in the title?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
How would you call this polluting a thread, if everyone starts opening a new thread, that's polluting the forum.

What I have posted is related, if you're not interested, please keep quiet, other people may be interested.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] alitech:
Seems like a product brochure from an alibaba.com wholesale. Minimum order quantities etc may be for retailers who wish to sell this on however guys here would like to find out where to buy a retail version single piece of this. Proof that it works is also in question here. That thread talks about thickness but has no proof that anyone has actually tested it out.

So the questIons still remain.

Will this work with all the different variations of the S3?

Where can we buy this retail? eBay?

Is it the same technology coming out in the official s3 induction charging battery door?

Does it charge at the same speed as USB?

Does the original battery door bulge if this is stuck inside?

What is clear is that it is made for the s3 and the electrical points do seem to be ones that would line up with the s3 induction charging points on the body, however sticking this onto the door may require some patience and probably trial and error approach.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] syer1:
See above
[Galaxy S III Accessories] alitech:
Thanks for responding buddy. Cheers for that. I am in the UK so will have to find matching magnets to the ones you bought. Will have a dig at ebay.

Good idea with the alignment, I'll give it a shot when I get the magnets.

Could you post a picture of what your battery door looks like from the inside please? I just want to see what you have done with the black tape thing. Have you used super glue to fix the magnets onto the battery door? Are you using the original battery door and is there a bulge?

I am using a third party door with pixi guts and its flush, quite happy with the handy work however, crap alignment issues and terrible magnets so will definitely go with the ones you mention.

Ok, palm car charger it is. Here is one I just found on ebay. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-P...ories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item415d06196b
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
I think you are confusing concept with execution.

The concept is using a right-angle connector as a method of eliminating a wire coming straight out of the back of the touchstone.

The execution is the quality of work, which is entirely dependent on the person doing the fabrication work.

You might reconsider the next time before having such a public outburst.

---------- Post added at 02:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:31 PM ----------

FYI, the metal in the battery door are not magnets. They are just metal slugs. They are not magnetic at all.

The magnetics are all in the touchstone itself.

I'm aware that there's no magnetic media in the phone itself... however I'd still feel sketchy on having permanent magnets inside my phone.

Also, all components for the Pixi door should be fine - if you check, the weight of our phones are actually 2g lighter than the Pixi.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] syer1:
see attached.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] tonestert:
Will the Palm dock charger work with the Verizon charging backplate ?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] imstill@g:
Nope, different technology :banghead:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] alitech:
Hey Syer

Thanks for all your help. I am having a lot of trouble finding the exact magnets that you are using, however, I have found a close match. Its not N52 which are apparently the strongest magnets you can get, they are N42. Here is where I found em.

http://www.first4magnets.com/f306--...eodymium-magnet---035kg-pull-x25-a11y-1-p.asp

Cant find anything on ebay for UK. Anyhoo. The other thing is that they are slightly thicker.

According to the listing on K&J http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=D401-N52

The measurements are

6.35mm x 0.79 mm

the ones I found in the UK are

6mm x 1 mm

So slight difference as well as a slightly less pull. Hopefully I can use these on my phone, whaddya say?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mexiking713:
There is a guy that is swelling rhetoric official Verizon wireless charging mat and door for $65. Is that a good deal and will it work and our sprint galaxy s3?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] WinDroidGuy:
Yes, it will work for the Sprint version...post a picture of the back of Sprint version and I will tell you if NFC will also work
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Warrior 3000:
s3 wireless charging, tasker tethers it to nexus 7 giving it wifi. nuff said

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhY4TZzmxzs&feature=plcp
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
Just got a reply from Yijieneng, the supplier of qi products, it appears they have ignore my questions when I asked them about international orders, not even a yes or no, so it seem they will provide this service, but special arrangements must be agreed on, as I know they provide products to international companies.

The good news is, I have arrange to meet the person who replied to my emails, on the 6-7 october, he has even gave me directions and ask me to phone him if I have problems getting there.

Everything will be discussed there, I will also purchase my samples.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] davpel:
Just a word of caution. I tried this mod using copper tape and had an issue getting the Touchpad connectors to meet up with the connectors in the phone. I stupidly tried to pry one of the phone's connector upward just a tad and it broke off. It apparently was originally soldered to the circuit board and I guess I could try to reconnect it at some point in the future, but for now . . . I'm screwed.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] syer1:
The only problem i see is the thickness. They will deff. work though. What you can try doing is sanding down really lightly the part of the battery door where the magnets will go. Just so the cover will fit better without a bigger bulge.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] alitech:
Exactly what I plan to do. Thanks buddy, you have been a big help.

Looking forward to my mod now. Version 2 anyways. Tried it already with a 3rd party battery door and it works like a charm. Just need the alignment sorted and I will have the opportunity with my new door and a dremel.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
If you have a drill press available to you, try what I'm doing:

Drill press

small straight cut router bit

double-sided tape

scrap wood - 3/4" thick

scrap plastic - cool whip lid or similar

Chuck up the router bit in the drill press - as small as possible (I have a 1/4" bit).

Set your table height on the router table so that it's about 3/4" from the bottom of the bit when fully lowered. We'll use the stop adjustment to fine tune our final cut depth later.

Using the scrap of plastic first, double-sided tape it to a scrap of wood and use it to set your depth stop on the drill press, so that it comes down as far as possible without going all the way through the plastic. You can hold the wood to maneuver it around safely.

Once your cutting depth is set with the scrap plastic, you can commit to cutting into your battery door.

Make a template with paper (or tracing paper if you have any - that's what I used - much easier) to trace the Pixi door locations for the cutouts. Double-sided tape that to the inside of the battery door.

Double sided tape the battery door to the scrap of wood (watch the camera hump! I'd let it protrude off the wood so the battery door surface is 100% perfectly flush with the wood, so that your cutting depth is consistent!), and use the drill press like a router - bring the bit down to cut out whatever locations you like, following your template as a guide.

That will give you maximum depth with minimum risk of blowing through, and the best precision. :cool:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] alitech:
OK Wow. I am in no way a DIY-er so most of that just went way over my head. I dont even know what equipment you are talking about.

Can I recommend you do a video of this for all of us? Just mount a mobile phone someone. Start with the kit and naming each item and where to get it and how much. Then do a step by step so that we can pause and rewind when needed. Impossible to take all these instructions to actually do it, hence the suggestion.

Heck, if you do this. I will vote for this to go onto a featured lifehacker.com post.

Whaddya say?