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[Windows 8 General] mrchezco1995:
Not possible if the tablet has windows 8 ARM installed

If a tablet comes with Windows 8 ARM Preinstalled, you basically can't dual boot ICS on it. Why? Because Windows 8 for ARM requires the tablet manufacturer to enable secure boot on those devices. Thus, enabling secure boot won't let you dual boot Win8 and Android on it. Microsoft is very clever, they do really start to block linux and lock the tablets to Windows 8 ARM only.
[Windows 8 General] iiDeadSeriousii:
Yea I know you can't do it with the ARM tablets, that's the windows rt version. I was asking towards the other regular Windows 8 tablets. Can you dual boot ICS on those?
[Windows 8 General] mrchezco1995:
Ohh... If a tablet comes with an Intel or AMD processor inside and not ARM, then this will be possible. You can dualboot Win8 and ICS on it :D
[Windows 8 General] iiDeadSeriousii:
Cool, is this already being done? Can you link if possible? I tried searching but couldn't find anything. This just made my tablet shopping a lot easier for the fall.
[Windows 8 General] nkjskj.com:
Android is Open Source and Windows 8 is commercial so.............
[Windows 8 General] jessenic:
Yes, you can run Android on x86, but many of the native apps won't work as they're made for arm processors. Take a look here: http://www.android-x86.org/
[Windows 8 General] mtmerrick:
intel is putting its medfield CPUs, which are x86 atom-based SoCs, into android smartphones right now. Expect to see the same chips in W8 tablets. with that said, it should be fairly likely to see a dualbooting tablet. ;)

also, i'd like to point you towards the Asus Tranformer AiO, shown off at Computex. ;)
[Windows 8 General] mrchezco1995:
It's already been done on some PCs, Laptops, and including a windows tablet. Check it out here

Take note that this is only Android-x86. A ported version of android for x86 devices

You can find the Android-x86 project here :D

Here's what a tablet with Windows 8 RT inside http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5Xh_1U35s
[Windows 8 General] cypher49:
Would it be possible to run x86 windows 8 on the new medfield phones like the Orange San Diego and the Lava Xolo?

It would be interesting to run the metro ui on the smartphone itself but it will get better if you just hook up your phone to a monitor/laptop dock and enjoy a windows desktop experience (like the motorola atrix and this).

I have always been a fan of the OQO UMPC and this would be the modern version of that.
[Windows 8 General] dellooo:
thank you :D
[Windows 8 General] Memphizzz:
I have dual boot on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (which has a x86 Intel processor) with Windows 8 Release Preview and Android ICS.

First I installed Win8 using a boot stick which you can create using this tool and the cd image you downloaded. Then I shrinked the size of the Windows partition to free up some space for Android.

Then I used the latest Atom image from Android x86 to install Android from another boot stick using this tool.

When installing Android don't forget to install GRUB boot loader.

Once you done that you can choose which OS to boot every time you start the device. Unfortunately it doesn't work using touch. You have to have a USB keyboard attached to choose the entry that is not default (in this case Windows 8).
[Windows 8 General] mrchezco1995:
I think running Win8 on a Phone with a x86 cpu like the medfield atoms from intel is possible, but you can't run metro apps on the phone's screen itself because the phone only has a resolution of 1024x600. Metro apps requires 1024x768 in order to run and in order to use "snap", a resolution of 1366x768 is required. So I think you need to hook up a mouse and a keyboard on the phone in order to enjoy the new metro feature of Windows 8 on a phone hooked up to your HDTV :D
[Windows 8 General] xboxfanj:
Uhh no. Galaxy Tab 10.1s use the ARM nVidia Tegra 2 SOC and are pre loaded with android honeycomb unless you have a unique version that no one else in the world does and no one has heard about.
[Windows 8 General] mrchezco1995:
Hey there's no Galaxy Tab with a x86 processor (Intel or AMD). If there's a samsung tab with a x86 cpu on it, then it's not on the galaxy series.
[Windows 8 General] Memphizzz:
Sorry I meant Samsung Slate 7 tablet which has a Core i5 processor...

Anyway, the method above should work with any device running an Intel processor.
[Windows 8 General] _Variable:
@OP, Seeing as Asus has a Transformer AiO that does exactly what you said, then yes its possible :)
[Windows 8 General] mrchezco1995:
Ohh... So that's why. Hehe. Anyone makes mistakes right? Hehe. Don't worry ;)
[Windows 8 General] xboxfanj:
Ah OK. Sorry if I came off as an ass about it.
[Windows 8 General] yeradis:
i'm running windows8 and ICS with dual boot on ExoPC tablet xD
[Windows 8 General] utsav preet:
Toshiba will

soon launch it

by the way i already have dual boot android 4.1 and windows 8 on my nexus 7
[Windows 8 General] AndroHero:
Really? I need to get myself one of thoes. Any chance if you can confirm the reports that the N7 screen is plagued with ghosting?
[Windows 8 General] jianyongng:
I was looking forward to buy Asus Transformer Pad Infinity. Is there's a possible to dual boot window 8 on the tablet?
[Windows 8 General] MaSmBx:
If I'm not mistaken and my memory serves well, ASUS teased about running Windows 8 and Android on Transformer Pad.
[Windows 8 General] phailyoor:
I already have android 4.2 development builds, Windows 8, and Apple's secret ARM version of OSX triple booting on my VM samsung intercept.
[Windows 8 General] xboxfanj:
Dude my Motorola DynaTac has been rocking Mac os XI and windows nine and iOS7 and android 5 key lime pie.
[Windows 8 General] Quinny899:
Android-x86 now has an arm compatibility, it runs almost any app I throw at it
[Windows 8 General] LadislavBohm:
Galaxy Nexus + Windows 8

And will it be possible to boot Windows 8 Arm version on tablets like Galaxy Nexus? (sorry if it´s a stupid question)

It might be the main factor in buying new tablet.
[Windows 8 General] fatclue:
Que bola acere? How did you get that going?
[Windows 8 General] fma965:
I dual boot windows 8 And android 4.0.4 on my Samsung netbook. The android is x86 with built in arm emulation so most apps work :)
[Windows 8 General] xboxfanj:
Galaxy nexus is not a tablet first of all and also, microsoft is most likely not going to release a disc or any install method for arm devices that are not preloaded with it.
[Windows 8 General] jaithesimpleguy:
im reading for 4 page but I can't find the answer that Im searching.

Question: Either it's a tablet or laptop, can any one recommend me the best device so far that can dual boot both android (any version will do) and the latest windows 8?
[Windows 8 General] iiDeadSeriousii:
Yea, if I can't do it on the Surface Pro since you guys are saying it'll most likely be locked can I do it on any other upcoming tablet? Pro version of course. And how far behind is development on x86 Android as opposed to stock Android?
[Windows 8 General] dragon_76:
It's called BlueStacks. I have it on my Win8 Series 7 Slate.
[Windows 8 General] Quinny899:
There's x86 ICS and jb on some tabs
[Windows 8 General] gordonzhao:
Sounds like the most definitive way I've seen, not tried, is to get a tablet such as the Inifinity and dual boot windows rt. RT because that's the version Asus is running on their vivo rt tablet powered by a tegra 3 quad. Where as the Vivo RT will not dual boot android as a part of the secure element. The downside to bluestacks which I've used on my laptop, one my laptop isn't touchscreen... >.< two, the interface for bluestacks isn't really "android" it may run the apps but it's an entirely different experience since it's just an "app player."
[Windows 8 General] bgduece22:
I am running Windows 8 and Android 4.0.4 on a MSI Windpad 110W.

I changed the Hard drive to 128GB...Both OS run very well...I am very pleased
[Windows 8 General] tenet420:
It is so a full android. Search "root Bluestacks" on xda and see the work that's been done. Simply change your home launcher to something like ADW, replace the navigation icons in the Bluestacks folder with something a lil more sexy and profit.
[Windows 8 General] Fire Witch:
I was thinking about a dual boot on my Lenovo ThinkPad Twist Tablet, until I tried AMD APP Zone by Bluestacks. It's free And beats having to reboot every time you want to go from Windows to Android.
[Windows 8 General] SpaceCaker:
we havthe androidx86.org project

we can run android on our pcs so dont worry

w can dualboot them ;)
[Windows 8 General] culaterout:
Great news thinking of buying surface pro vs Asus transformer. May go the other way buy windows surface pro and install ubuntu :) . Ubuntu blows windows 8 out the water and now has support from Steam gaming, nvidia drivers and amd ati drivers. Windows can jump off a cliff. Trying to charge me for what is free. ;)
[Windows 8 General] HRandev:
Windows is already Linux

It is funny that they say that when there kernel is already just a modified version of the Linux kernel and the only thing they have is a GUI
[Windows 8 General] GoodDayToDie:
LOLWUT? Is there a sudden flood of trolls on XDA recently? The NT kernel and the Linux kernel have literally nothing to do with one another, nor does any other Microsoft OS kernel (NT has a POSIX subsystem, and many years ago MS sold its own Unix variant, but there's still nothing of the Linux kernel in either one).
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] daniETingles:
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http://www.amazon.com/EMPIRE-White-...words=empire+poly+skin+htc+droid+incredible+2

Something along the lines of this! Just take a look at the top.
[HTC EVO 3D] TheDaltanian:
I have been using MeanROM ICS 2.3 and have been loving it. However, for the first time in over a year of magnificent stock battery life, I am seeing it slip away faster than I have before.

My question to the general audience would be... which ICS Rom do you believe sacrifices the least amount of juice/gives the most battery life?
[HTC EVO 3D] blwnv8:
I haven't done any real tests but i'm running swagged out stock and i'm pretty happy with it. I've also tried inbreded rom and that was pretty good as well

Sent from my Toshiba Thrive tablet
[HTC EVO 3D] banccalif:
Battery life = MeanROM ICS 2.0
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Laynee1:
Any one knows how to change text color (in settings, etc..) to blue (33b5e5 actually, it is ICS color afaik) ?

Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
Its an XML edit im not sure which one but you would have to decompile the Settings.apk make the edit in the Colors.xml then recompile.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nbeebe24:
The edit is actually in the framework-res apk. I'll let you know exactly where when I get home
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
Oh he meant the system color. That a the Holo_Blue_Light which is 33b5e5.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Laynee1:
Yes, as i stated in my first post :) 33b5e5. How to change system color into that color ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Basian Mile:
Any news here?

I really like to have that Infos too.

Afaik its in the "\framework-res\res\values\styles.xml" !?

But where there? What Strings??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phone_user:
Which is best for you? What is your view? I seek advice from the guys of observation :)

1. ICS Stock MusicFX

acts on Stock Music app

2. CM9 DSPManager

the attached file DSPManager works on non CM9 ROMs

flash CM9.DSPManager.zip in recovery

for the restoration, flash CM9.DSPManager_Remove.zip in recovery

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1709497

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1636914&highlight=dsp

3. Equalizer in Play Store

http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer

4. Poweramp in Play Store

Poweramp uses its own equalizer, not compatible with the others

http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxmpz.audioplayer
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
I've used them all partially but for the longest time now.. ive been a fan of equalizer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] akellar:
Biggest question, do any work to improve 3rd party apps like Pandora?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phone_user:
DSPManager and Equalizer work with 3rd party apps. Correct me if I’m wrong
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
Yep dsp and equalizer work on all system sounds. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fireon123:
Thanks for the DSP Manager links! I have been using Equalizer for months but decided to test DSP manager now, and it really rocks! I like that it is a system app as well and that it works for all players. I use Spotify, Google Music, and Pocket Casts, so I need an equalizer that works for several music players. Equalizer would sometimes not work perfectly, but DSP Manager seems solid!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] garu12:
Dsp all the way. I used to use power amp and never cared much for dsp but the Apollo / dsp combo is fantastic.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] [hfm]:
Huge fan of PowerAmp. I love the UI and the fact that it does gapless perfectly.

I do however keep the EQ turned off. The Klipsch S4 sound great with the GNex set flat.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sert00:
old poweramp's fan...but onestly from a month i switched to apollo\dsp manager or n7 player pro\dsp manager and i'm going very well.anyway also the use of only poweramp rocks,always used on ginger and for times on gnex.after posting in this 3ad,i want to re-switch to poweramp and give it a try with newest updates.well done phone_user,good 3ad!:p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zeke1988:
i use volume+ and it's working fine on my GN.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
wow looks like im the only person thus far that uses Equalizer your missing out :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yahyoh:
DSP manger FTW :p ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarni84:
Surprised volume + isn't on this list. It makes the speaker sound way better and twice as loud. But if I was to pick from op's list I would say equalizer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] malikadnanm:
I personally get better sound using poweramp. And I love the player because it actually shows the right album art.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hammer_Of_The_Gods:
Hi phone_user,

I agree 100%,Volume+ in first then Equalizer since it's on the list :D

And probably it's ridiculous but Volume+:75Ko/Equalizer:2,1M...:eek: and more RAM used just for a sound app(ok more features than Volume+ like widgets).

But since this thread is not a comparo between Volume+ and....I choose Equalizer.

You should have done a poll ;)

:)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] anton2009:
I don't really use a music effects app, because honestly I don't know what their potential is... never really played around. But does it make that much of a difference (i.e. better music quality)? If so, which app and settings do you recommend? Screenies w/ setup please. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] irizwan:
PowerAmp. Love it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phone_user:
Many thanks :) After all, I know what’s really important!

http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.FREE.android.lvh

http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.TEST.android.lvh

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1393623
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
It does help quite a bit. I notice the stock audio sounds so flat and dull... with equalizer I up the treble and bass cuz it also lacks the thump I like. I listen to a lot of metal and sub genres of that...(metalcore, Hardcore, etc) so the higher treble sounds nice. Here is where my equalizer is at. The treble is a tad high but you can always lower it to your liking. I have the same "v" shape on my laptop with beats audio.

Sent From My Sprint Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] anton2009:
Thanks, I'll try it out and see!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
Oh also if you have aokp it will sound very odd... I have a separate setup for aokp because the audio files are different on aokp and equalizer reacts differently.

Sent From My Sprint Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rye&ginger:
This depends on many things, not just the EQ.

Quality of speakers/headphones: better quality, usually there is less need to EQ to make up for poor bass or treble output. You dont have to spend a lot to get decent headphones.

Quality of the audio file: under 192 or perhaps 160kbps MP3, you can expect it to sound poor no matter what you do to EQ or how good your speakers are, as the bass and treble has been chopped off from the audio source.

Personally I use PowerAMP with no EQ, and mid range (about $40-60, current Panasonic and MEE) ear buds. I listen to drum n bass mostly, so it is quite heavy on bass but also on high end percussion so full range is important. There are not many vocals.

I like PowerAMP for its lockscreen player widget, and the best headphone button options.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] theking_13:
Poweramp because I love the different looks and feel of the app, but with DSP so I can have full system EQ, not just for Poweramp. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ÜBER™:
Yeah definetly true. I have had the same 20$ ear buds from Phillips for two years now. They sound great to me, everything is super clean.

Sent From My Sprint Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
I just installed Equalizer, I was using volume+ before. Music sounds so much better now, only thing is how much of a difference do better ear buds make? I currently use the stock Samsung ones and to me they sound decent. Will there be a noticeable difference in sound quality?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] The Gingerbread Man:
I have tried power amp I don't think the UI goes very well with ics, I tried the equilizer app from the market and it wasn't that good. Volume+ is good for loudness but bass boost doesn't work. I find the stock equalizer good, it works well and looks nice but my fav is definatly dsp manager. I am using klipsch s4a (with klipsch app for button funtions) with comply tx 100 tips and it sounds fantastic, I hear no notice from the outside world and the bass is unreal, I have bass boost set to extreme, the equilizer set to bass boost and use the klipsch app to limit the volume to 70% otherwise I get distortion. Oh yeah I forgot using Franco kernel with high performance sound turned on and boosted the volume to +3. Trust me it sounds amazing :D

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gg48gg:
I just downloaded Equalizer and it is good, but needs some improvement.

I am not affiliated in any way with any of these apps, but am a big fan of PowerAmp since FroYo. IMHO, the poweramp equalizer is perfect. If only it was global (affected all sounds from all apps)! I wish the Poweramp devs would put out a standalone global equalizer amp!

The poweramp equalizer interface is far superior to "Equalizer", IMHO.

What Poweramp has that Equalizer doesn't:

- overall preamp level, very important for resolving issues with clipping and oversaturation.

- 10 bands instead of 5. 5 is ok, 10 is way better control!

- treble/bass tone. not essential, but nice. Use EQ or Tone, or both!

- tap above/below slider to increment by one.

- better visual appeal and UI interaction

- L/R balance adjustment

- Mono mode

- limit/auto-clipping adjustment on/off

What Equalizer has that Poweramp doesn't:

- live waveform display

- skinnable widgets

- seems to automatically adjusts preamp level as you adjust bands (I dislike this).

Other improvement suggestions for equalizer:

larger, interactive widget. Widget cannot adjust sliders.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] triStateMindgate:
DSP for me, tried everything, Vol+ was my choice back when DSP wasn't available yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oldblue910:
Equalizer every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] deep_powder2012:
I love DSPManager on my GNex. Has anyone installed it on a 4.04 Xoom? How did that work out?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] daskalos.healing:
Give this a try :)

http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jetappfactory.jetaudio

http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jetappfactory.jetaudioplus

Jet Audio
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] IMGetwired:
DSP Manager is most flexible so far on JB 4.1 / try Subsonic for streaming!

While I am also a PowerAmp user (have been for a long time), I hate how there is not a reliable way to make it output to the standard Android audio system to use it with DSP Manager! (Yes, I've disabled DVC, no impact). I have tried:

1) Voodoo Sound (no kernels for this on GNex LTE that I'm aware of), on another device (my GTab 10.1), and I love it...too bad it's not happenin' here yet.

2) Volume+ is just okay if you JUST want more volume out of the speaker on the phone. TERRIBLE for music as it accomplishes the volume increase by crossfeeding, thus ruining the stereo separation.

3) AwesomeBeats/Beats Audio - meh, didn't find a ROM/kernel combo that allowed this to act upon all audio output by my phone, and was subject to some unpleasant distortions when I "kinda" had it working. Worked on the Play Music app, but I *cannot stand* this app.

So, for me, I'm putting PowerAmp on the "back shelf" for a bit, until official JB comes out and they can do a proper update, and allow for integration with external tools like DSP Manager. Per someone's suggestion here, I've tried n7 Player, and it works quite well with DSP Manager, and is almost comparable to PowerAmp in features.

If the Jet Audio team releases a player with widgets and BBE, I will be all over it (I do love me some Cowon action). But, until then, I'd like to leave my RSA SR71A and/or Headstage Arrow at home, and just jam with my Westone UM3X's straight into my GNex with a software setup that actually works. ;-)

---------- Post added at 08:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 PM ----------

By the way, I stream from my own collection using Subsonic, and DSP Manager works great with the Subsonic App on my GNex as well. Not a particulary a "beautiful" player, but good enough to get the tunes on to my phone, then I can re-listen with n7 if I want a pretty GUI. :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phone_user:
Thanks for your detailed comparison :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] omricn:
None of these work on my GN running JB 4.1.1 :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PurpleFries:
PowerAmp has a variety of ICS themes avalible which look great, cause ICS and JB look pretty similar.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] The Gingerbread Man:
They must of updated since April when I last used it.

Also I'll leave this link to an old thread of mine here as I feel its kind of relented to this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1569043

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
Anyone know why DSP doesn't work with audio from Google listen or beyond pod? Or any app for that matter other than stock music player. Makes it pretty limited.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mikey503:
Does equalizer work with Bluetooth?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JVogler:
DSP Manager was truly system wide on CM7 on my Atrix...including alarms and ringtones. So far on all my Samsung devices on CM9 I can't get BeyondPod loud enough to be usable. Very frustrating since it was blasting on my Atrix and had to turn the volume halfway down to listen.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] IMGetwired:
You guys having issues with DSP Manager on ICS or JB ROMs might try this version, which has worked consistently fine for me on ICS and JB on my VZW GNex. I get system-wide sound enhancements with per-output settings (speaker/headphones/bluetooth).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xrvtqbhyh23hgbm/DSPmanager-ics.zip

Backup DSP Manager with Titanium Backup (or whatever you use) first (just to make sure you have a copy of whatever build you currently have), then mount /system as read/write with Root Explorer or whatever tool you have. Delete /system/app/DSPManager.apk. Flash the .zip above in CWM/TWRP, wipe Dalvik cache, reboot, and enjoy.

Cheers!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JVogler:
I just went back to stock via nandroid backup...I'm assuming this DSP version requires a non-stock based ROM? Wish I had seen this earlier!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lythandra:
Just put Equalizer on mine, sounds very nice.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
This still has no effect on any other audio for me, specifically beyond pod. I'm desperate, are you guys doing certain steps or something? You actually hear a difference? I flashed this but no luck.