yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] RaymondPJR:
That's exactly what I meant by this line above. The cover looks dicey, it's way to hard to tell from the picture just what it looks like. But I can see the contacts and will just take the coil out and put it into my own original cover. I saw your posts in the other thread. Between this one and that one and all the various videos, my head was spinning trying to figure out what worked with what. I also don't like the cost of some of the options although I like how easy they are to implement. If this works out, you'll be the first to know. The price is right, not too cheap, not too expensive, lol!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
Good luck man. If it's successful, I hope you would do a full write up on how to do it so more members here can do the same.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
That coil pack will be very thick. They way to tell is by the design of the Battery cover, there is a reason it has a cross grid design around coil, to make it stronger because the coil pack is a hard piece and that design by nature is a built up design. that case is thicker then the Duracell Powermat's cover...

You can go here and see what companies are making the qi covers...

http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/products/
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
I agree about the thickness as shown with the cross grid, but if compared to duracell, can't comment on that without a side by side comparison.

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I also ordered one, but not for the receiver part but the wireless power bank, I actually ordered this from another company, but it took 3-4 months and they still don't have it.

with this powerbank, i intend to mod this so that I can use the wireless feature to charge both the powerbank and with the power bank to charge the phone.

should get it in a few days.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
***Note From The Wireless Power Consortium***

The Wireless Power Consortium Group called me today with a Question I asked and per their Conversation and Answers to your question if/when you email or call them. If that Charging cover, or any Wireless Charging pieces has the Qi on it and you go to their Website and that name/brand isn't on their list, then they are NOT true Qi. They are using the Logo without permission or Licensed to use thw name or Logo.

For those Disputers, you know who you are, Do something Different for a change and email them, call them...Get some Facts....you are buying something that may not work with all charging systems etc or be Barely Qi Compatible....

So you are buying into trouble, esp since what you want has to be a Qi device, and the ones that have already bought, It's not your fault, there are sellers in and out here and Strong opinions of what you should buy and turns out, they have made a Big Mistake and screwed up alot of people....

Remember Doubters, Ask them yourself or easier go to:

http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/products/

And if that Product isn't Listed there or their name Listed here;

http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/member-list/

Then you are buying something that may not work as Qi says it should, because it isn't a Qi Product...
[Galaxy S III Accessories] brehon1104:
Sorry this has been a terribly confusing thread. Can someone link me to an S3 solution kit that's on the list or whose manufacturer is on this list? If there's multiple then I prefer to use my original back cover.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
check the Qi thread that's stickied. There are several brands out there that do use Qi and works just fine. If you're worried, you can contact the members who are using a combination of the kit.

Alot of these companies don't build it themselves, but instead source it out to other manufacturers to build it for them, then place their brand/logo on it.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
See how loosely you use Qi......just because I right the Letters Qi on on hand doesn't mean it is Qi....Better yet I will Bring the Qi guys to these discussions of pushing the Qi name weather it is a legal way to use Qi or License Infrigment......Please go Learn what the meaning of Qi and who that name belongs to...yes it is a owned name.....not a word like Cotton swap being called Q-tips.....Stop this bad practice you are doing to people
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
Go ahead. "report" them.

When you actually own anything related to Qi, come back and post your findings. plenty of proof out there that it works. I see no reason to argue with you anymore because there are too many proof in forms of videos and members who have attested that it works fine.

It's all here in this forum. If you willingly ignore it, then you're admitting to fear mongering.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
Are you hearing yourself?????

How can proof exist when the Proof isn't the Qi.......again...Qi has a DNA...like a human.....how can Bob be proof that he is Tom just because he says i'm tom when the DNA doesn't match????????????????????

Reporting wasn't reffering to them...it's the person claiming/selling the illegal use of Qi products...YOU
[Galaxy S III Accessories] RaymondPJR:
Damn, it looks like this isn't going to work out after all!!! Here is a link to what happened. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=35585820&postcount=84 :mad::mad::mad:
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
roflmao. When did I start selling anything?

proof can exist if you can show everyone here that the "fake/cheat's" product do not work on official qi products. bring on a video. show us that it doesnt' work.

Qi is not a DNA. it's a standard. a specification. it is supposed to work with anything that complies with that spec.

If it has a DNA, every single Qi product would be different and therefore unique and noncompatible.

Don't use words you don't understand and enough with the insults. bring your proof or stop spreading false information.

I'm done with this. I see no need to respond to anything you say anymore until you can bring anything substantial.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] RaymondPJR:
It's good to know that you are concerned about knock-offs. We all are. But there is no need to argue. There are several possibilities that can result from buying something that says "QI" on it.

1. It will be a bonafide Qi product and will work fine.

2. It will be a banafide Qi product and not work fine.

3. It will not be a bonafide Qi product and still will work fine.

4. It will not be a bonafide Qi product and will not work fine.

Two and four and the ones I'm concerned about. Right now, I just want something that's not too expensive and is safe. We understand, we must be careful. But let's not argue.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] krash183:
Gaw I hate these threads... I just want some info of what's available and it always turns into this crap of what is qi and what isn't qi and whats standard and whats not standard.... Dammit I just want something that works with most cheap chargers and Doesn't affect nfc. So who here has that receiver pad that fits under the stock battery cover? Does it work with different charging pad?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] nerys71:
I got a touch stone and the $28 backs you can find on ebay. it works fine. does not appear to inhibit NFC.

I can't use it because once you wrap the phone in a CASE it stops working. (some thinner TPU cases work ok)

I HEAR they are working on a thicker case compatible wireless charging solution. we shall see what happens with that.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
I'm just curious to know what your intentions are here, you don't own any of these product, and yet you act as a spokesman for each and individual format, there is one case, I think powermat who came here and request that you don't act on their behaves, shouldn't you really be the one to be authorized and not fake your position here.

Many people are concern about compatibility regarding different product, and yes yijieneng may not be a licensed company for the Qi, but they are only a rebadged manufacturing company, many companies in china are brothers and sisters companies, and if one has the certifications, they all have the same product, if you bothered to search, you will find the same product has different company names.

just stop being a pain in the a*** and be normal, help other and not troll and attack member who are here to help.

Qi or not Qi if they work and are compatible between brand, that's the most important factor here.

Nokia

yijieneng

sanwa

maxell

energizer

panasonic

LG

has been test by me and many people here, and are compatible between brands.

what else matters.

just another thing to point out, the nokia DT 900 charging base, it's also made by yijieneng or it's related companies.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] sircody:
Knock offs isn't a concern...lol...Do you even understand what Standards are when it comes to Electrical devives etc????

Let's give an example:

Usb Standard....max output thru a charger with a USB plug on the end that connects to devices, what is the max Volts or is there one???

....

....

... yes there is and Standard has made that to be a STANDARD....

so say I'm a manufacture and could careless about you or your family...I just want to get in on the boom of USB,,,I put output set to be 18 volts because 5 volts just seems too whimpy.....Well your child uses it to plug in that 5 volt max input toy and now it's getting 18 or so volts....he doesn't know what Standards are, something to TRUST, he just wants to play...well overheating cause a Burn, then ignites a Fire...he's thinking he broke it and afraid to run tell someone there is a fire....Guess what, your disreguards to that silly Standard just burned up your Hose and you Child in it.....

Chew on that!!!@!!!!!

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read below yourost and see why a standard on devices like these are not just a geeky toy you clueless attackers are doing, misimforming others to these facts....
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
where are these "facts" that can prove that these fake/cheat prpducts do not operate within specification? where are the reports on actual electrical output from these "evil" products?

if you make a claim, you sure as hell have to back it up with solid proof. the fact that you're still here calling people namez shows that you lack any kind of information to support your claim.

the fact that you keep on ignoring the demands for proof shows that you're doing nothing but fear mongering.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
Oh sh** i got a case for a s3, and samsung hasn't certified it fit for the phone, OMFG my phone is going to explode.:fingers-crossed:

seriously, you tell me, how many USB cable are on the market, they all has the USB certified logo, how many do you think has been licensed officially, i doubt it pose any danger, causing a PC or phone to not work or cause any damage.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kkrull:
That is indeed the case for the Nokia DT-900 charging pad. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36621442. Would the interference extend several feet?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] geolemon:
My mind is partly blown that this thread is not only putting weight on a "standard", but has devolved from a useful thread on a practical mod [involving proven and cheap components], into an actual debate on who's/what is/isn't standard.

Bolting on someone's purpose-built battery door product, that's compatible only with expensive, large "standard" chargers, doesn't really count as a "mod" in my personal opinion, and doesn't rank high on the value scale in anyone's comparison...

...especially when it makes your phone thicker as an additional sacrifice.

I'm just suggesting (again) - consider the mod. It's really not hard, you don't need to get fancy with the fabrication like I did.

And this "standards" argument is silly - both with respect to the personal/practical "what works best with your phone", as well as the societal "what's the advantage of each/any 'standard' in 2013 [or as long as your contact, even]".

In fact, there are more disadvantages than cost, I've beaten those to death already.

And the same is even more true in 2013.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] touche112:
So, I just upgraded to the GS3 from a Droid 3. I have the Verizon charging pad and used it with the Droid 3. No go on using the Verizon pad.

I *think* I've figured out what that extra set of pins are down by the SIM slot on the Verizon model - control pins for the Verizon wireless charging pad. They carry about .2v and provide a control for the pad..basically, yes/no if a device is present.

I ripped the coil out of my Droid 3's back and it carried the 5v fine through the tape on pins 1/2. When the GS3 was brought close to the charging pad, charging shut down until pins 3/4 were connected to the extra set down by the SIM.

If that all makes sense.

Long story short, it's stupid, doesn't fit exactly, and I'm just gonna junk the Verizon charging pads and buy Touchstones and Pixi backs.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
if you want to stick w/ Qi, then use the normal qi receiver pads that just stick right to the 2 pins on the side. The verizon one is basically a red tape charger with extra stuff that shouldn't have been there to begin with.

You can buy the chargers anywhere on ebay and various other sites, the only drawback is that it's most probably shipped from china and will take a while to arrive. but once you have the receiver, you can purchase any transmitter that's Qi and it'll work. (including NFC, albeit with a slight loss of distance if you have a case like the ballistic SG on it. a tap still works just fine though)
[Galaxy S III Accessories] touche112:
So I assume the charging pad from Verizon isn't Qi-enabled?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
I believe it is Qi... just that it has some extra proprietary **** it isn't supposed to have.

On the other hand, i've read that it works with other s3 (US variants, not sure about international, but it really shouldn't matter)
[Galaxy S III Accessories] touche112:
Interesting. I'll buy one of the receivers and see if the Verizon pads work. I see on Verizon's website they have a new version made by LG that specifically says it's Qi, but I have one of the "old" (bastards, it's only 3 months old) pads that are made by Samsung.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
the receiver should be a tiny pad that has 2 pins on the side. it shouldn't have any extra doodads. I can't guarantee it will work w/ verizon because they have that wierd extra 2 pins on their phones, so i dont know if they modified it so that those 2 pins have to somehow be activated to allow charging or not.

I know for a fact that the international s3 (i9300) will work for sure since I have it and have been using it for almost half a year now.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] jetjaguar:
Finally broke down...

For anyone wondering... any Qi transmitter should work with any Qi receiver because it's an INTERFACE standard. Read up on it here.

I could never get the Palm Touchstone mod to work with my Verizon SG3 I535 probably because it will ONLY work with Qi equipment but who knows because there isn't any documentation about the wireless charging requirements for the I535. Anyway, I finally broke down and bought a genuine Verizon wireless charging back cover with the two different sets of pins off of Amazon. I then purchased one of the Nokia transmitters. My old cover still fits and now I FINALLY have wireless charging. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

It was fun trying to get the mod to work and I must say I learned a lot so it wasn't a waste.

Good luck to all of you attempting this mod. Just remember, I think the Touchstone mod will only work with the international versions. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] android94301:
Wrong!

OP of the Original Palm/Touchstone charging mod here. All wrong. The Palm Touchstone only works with the Palm receiver from Palm pre or Palm Pixi. It does NOT work with Qi equipment because Qi is another standard (and BTW, inferior for this use, since the receiver is much thicker and larger.)

Also, the Touchstone/Palm mod works with any S3 that has the charging pins, which I believe is all of them.

Please don't spread misinformation just because you couldn't get it to work.

For all of you that are tired of this thread with it's never ending arguements about Qi versus whatever, come over to mine. The water's warm and inviting.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] jetjaguar:
Lets hear it from the rest.

So has anyone ever been able to get the Touchstone mod to work with the Verizon I535?

PS I know the Palm transmitter/receiver don't work with Qi. That's why I posted the link.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] nm8:
Touchstone, qi, and powermat are NOT inter operable because they are different technologies. To those who want to do a simple and cheap touchstobe mod, kook at ny signature as I have done it. It is very easy and cheap but ib the end I ditched it for QI due to its limitation. Qi allows me to use thick cases and it charges a little quicker.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
I've already mentioned this a long time ago in the stickied thread in this forum, but as nm8 said, none of the 3 "standards" are inoperable.

You CAN make the touchstone mod work on any sgs3. just make sure your leads are isolated properly and done cleanly, but again, do not expect it to work w/ a Qi transmitter.

As of now, I know that alot of touchstone mods work just fine (including NFC) while some of the premade touchstone mod somehow screws w/ nfc.

All the Qi mods i've seen so far that are small pads you insert between the battery and cover works with NFC.

It's up to you what you want to do, but any would work just fine.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Jacklin12:
galaxy s3

hey guys what is the result of galaxy S3 ?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] kms108:
What results do you need, try reading through the whole thread.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Jacklin12:
reply

okk sorry for that reply :(
[Galaxy S III Accessories] JayGoat:
Damn. This mod is out for me then. Thanks again for answering my questions.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] JNK1989:
it seems, that the induction charging pins are bendable towards the mainboard? is it necessary to bend them down to allow wireless charging or do i just have to connect the cable to the upper part?

i hope you know what i mean, my english is not so good anymore:)
[Galaxy S III Accessories] searley:
I have not bent them down just connected to the top part
[Galaxy S III Accessories] JNK1989:
Thanks, i will try it tomorrow!
[Galaxy S III Accessories] winbytrick:
I think you can try the metal bumper thread, it will perfectly goes with this wireless charging mode
[Galaxy S III Accessories] searley:
Different cases will have different affects, in general my phones go naked so i have no means of testing
[Galaxy S III Accessories] matttye:
This might be a silly question but I have zero knowledge about wireless charging...will it work with a case?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] N23:
I got my touchstone and palm pre today (but i currently have not the time to test it on the S3) and it works through a silicon case or a hard plastic bumper... but i can fully confirm it hopefully on sunday!

(and somehpw i got now spare pebble blue cover for the S3 :D )
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mrfab14163:
Does anybody have a touchstone from the HP Touchpad? I wonder if that would work, too. Because of the form, you don't need magnets to hold it.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] joelgrice:
I have one (several actually) and will be trying it as soon as I get my SG3...
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ddurandSGS3:
is soldering required to makae this work?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] searley:
I dont see any reason why it wont work
[Galaxy S III Accessories] searley:
You need to solder some cable the the coil.. I however did not solder anything in the phone
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Freeme3:
There's a special case for wireless charging isn't it?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Fornowagain:
There will be. Probably a little thicker than stock with the induction circuit and contacts that connect to the phone. Along with a charging base, can't imagine it'll be that cheap. Not as they want £38 for their really nasty usb dock.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Yaotl:
Would you be able to just use copper tape?

I've had the puck and pixi back in my amazon cart for a few days now but I'm gun shy about pulling the trigger. I've never soldered anything before.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] raceface88:
Got all the gear to to this mod at work. Looks like a project for my next night shift.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Zanith:
I think a small two small square of duck tape with a small square of copper tape all on top of each other might be able to make the connection. Then hiwever you want to feed this through to the device.

I'm tempted to buy one to try this out now.

I'd imagine the duracell one will have better rates of charge. Will be buying it regardless.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Fornowagain:
Tried it, couldn't get any voltage on the palm circuit. Palm touchstone gives 5.6v off load.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] ddurandSGS3:
so you only had to solder the wires to the palm piece, not the galaxy?

thats what my concern is. my father has a soldering iron bt its for larger applicatinos than smaller electronics.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] Razorblood:
I am thinking of doing the touchstone mod. Does it charge well on standard tpu and hard cases? Do the stock magnets on the touchstone hold well with a case on?

How fast does it charge per hour and would u recommended just paying double for a 3000mah battery? (Had my eye on that too)
[Galaxy S III Accessories] mputtr:
check the post that you quoted and ask your question there. there should be pictures there that shows the ratings.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] jimsey:
I modded my old galaxy s2 and note with a similar mod, using a casemate dual skin to house the coil and a micro usb nib connected to the coil and plugged into the phone.

I used a powermat coil instead of the palm one, I mainly used it in my car as the battery drains fast using sat nav and just popping it on my powermat is really simple and keeps the phone topped up whilst navigating.

I only got my s3 today, and have just tried placing a powermat coil under the battery cover and attaching to the pins - (a much easier mod than my note or s2), anyway it seems to work well, just about got the back cover to snap shut - haven't tried NFC or compass yet

I'm now very please with the result - it looks and works great
[Galaxy S III Accessories] stu5797:
please post a video or pics
[Galaxy S III Accessories] searley:
There is a video of my mod probably on page 1/2 here

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Yes, just the the pre coil connectors
[Galaxy S III Accessories] crzy619:
Does your setup charge at a faster or slower rate then the op? I am willing to try a mod like this just not into loosing charging power. Thx
[Galaxy S III Accessories] jimsey:
The powermat coil can deliver up to 1000ma and so is only restricted by the charge controller in the phone itself.

The phone might treat the 2 wireless charging pins differently to a micro usb charger?

Anyway I haven't timed it but it seems to charge pretty quickly.
[Galaxy S III Accessories] knarfl1:
You can get copper tape (with adhesive on one side) cheap on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1ft-Adhesiv...054?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item27c4f2ec2e

Or copper foil (heavier gauge):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COPPER-Shee...854?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a762ecd3e
[Galaxy S III Accessories] baublitz:
Thanks! That is cheap. So I just cut that to make it thinner and tape it to the leads? If you do it can you please post pics?
[Galaxy S III Accessories] knarfl1:
I'm thinking get the copper foil and cut out a pattern for each lead (like an ic board.) Cover it with electric tape and solder the ends.

I just ordered a Touchstone kit. Will post mod when complete.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
[Galaxy S III Accessories] stu5797:
Can't wait to see your mod. Copper tape is the way to go
[Galaxy S III Accessories] baublitz:
Thank you! If it isn't too much trouble, I think a lot of us would appreciate a noob friendly tutorial. :) If not, pics are good too! Good luck.